Papa Rudi, Rudi, Papa Rudi, Rudi
Zaya Sushe Rudi, Zaya Sushe Rudi
Rudi Kugelyaka, Rudi Kugelyaka
Kasy Kasy Rada, Kasy Kasy Rada
Papa Rudi, Rudi, Papa Rudi, Rudi
Sai Yisushy Udi
Ute ku Uchoro
Sekras ke Pichoro
Pappar Udi Udi
Sai Yisushy Udi
Put the book in it, it's a
Zekras to Pitya
Oh
you
You
Oh
Oh, my God!
I'm going to be the only one who can do it
2 he is. He stands as ground, turns and fights. He's got mana pool left to keep fighting back
on the Yathorope, but the Phoenix doesn't have that same luxury. So Yathorope and Panto
on the run now from BZM who's respawned. Shards to block him out, Flambrek is there,
Panto with his buyback moves aggressively forward onto BZM with Loll and Yathorope
with a damage, but dead to 33!
Blink Blast so on to Phoenix and 33 drag back in.
Wall of Spunch catches BZM, they've got a supernova roar,
Sunray towards Laurel catching out throw and they kill him off the ones,
but BZM will fall, they'll fight him on the beaches,
they'll fight him on the throne,
but I don't think this is a winning battle for Tundra.
A double buyback is bought time for Parker to respawn,
Shackles and the Chakra.
They're on the doom, protected by Lotus Lincoln's though,
as Parker tries to catch up to see any target he can,
But Team Spirit, they hold the line with a klink.
Oh, the klink!
Annihilating Ari, destroying the Shadow Shaman at 33.
He's gone into death and doom.
A Gigi called.
They walk that roadshad for themselves,
but the jump from Loll gets on Ari.
Trying to blow up the Coltel and the Beastmaster
after the sank and damage is enough.
And Spirit, the onslaught, gets on the Bat Rider
with the rolling thunder.
two crashes in BZM stun to the Yatharo with the damage!
And so he sees Whitemore coming, starts it out with Lars arrival. The hero doesn't last long.
They try and barrier up and save him. Go set the four star from Kotal,
get some distance from Team Spirit, they roar up the pango, the damage is just not coming though.
They box up the roll, he's gonna dish out as the sacking comes in.
The damage turned from Parker though brings the law sacking down.
Collapsing after it can open up the Matruca. She's falling so quickly!
Radiant's top tower is under attack.
Okay, well, with a jump on the Shadowfiend,
Clips comes in, blocks in front of Saving,
and they've all become the SF locked up in place.
Heroics slay the beast.
Nisha on the run now is liquid from this high ground,
realizing they can't wait.
By his can they, Nisha from the tree,
lying in front of the high ground,
the fog and turn for the damage.
Ravage from Ace, clips with the bat right on the back.
They turn on it, surprising Heroic,
just like they'd done to them.
Whispers on the run, toss forward, Nisha,
set in! Dunks on the bat and triple kill 4 and make it ultra!
Oh, you shall go- I bet it, I bet it, I bet it.
The Bane is falling quickly and a damage out of Mechane, up to kill King Jungles.
And Baibach's available for the Bane, but a catch on Yume here forces a BKB.
Tylong also, BKB Lincolns, overgrowth goes, has to refresh.
He's on the run, but is he triple Tylong's dead?
Liquid, the nature storm, he is held in place and falls quickly.
Baibach out of nature now as Tylong also does the same.
TP's in, Mikkei, Tylong lapses out.
H from Lines and holds them back.
The Hex on Ursa, Liquid, a triple for Mikkei.
NO FUCKING WAY!
They're doing it, man! They're going...
WHAT AM I WATCHING?!
Yuma gets away from Mikkei.
They're in a lot of damage following through. Bane, nightmare saves.
Yuma, he's dead, though.
And an overgrowth, with Asus' damage.
The Typira Le Cor and King Jungle's dying.
Fiends creep on the storm, but there's no damage to follow through!
Gikiro buys back as in the back, Yuma made a move, past the retreat though as he spent
his enrage and the jump is spent as Tylong nullified force back the mountain.
That damage on the buildings now comes to fruition from Liquid though.
Tier 4's gone and Yuma in trouble!
He's dying!
The Batas died back!
The Earth Dive!
He'll return!
Trying to deal with the Weaver!
But Mikke has a time lapse!
Turn!
Slay!
Tylong!
Gikiro!
Chikiro's done as well!
Mikkei!
Oh, he's too good!
A strong weaver!
Stands his ground!
And Yuma is going to get finished off as well!
Haramika!
Nothing left, Wagga!
Sheesh, he's cold!
Oh!
Whoo-hoo!
They're going all in.
That's four golds that just go for throne.
They don't care.
You used your glyph to save your tier fours.
But do they have the debits to kill here on the Watts?
And he's in trouble.
The wall is punched.
They've got the silencer to get the kill.
Devine rapier on the deck.
They'll take out your junior.
Down goes DM.
Your junior avoiding the jumping that came through from the side of that movement.
They go and find the chaotic offerings.
Do they have the debits to get the kill out of the arrow?
They go and find the chaotic offerings and they have the tempest you get the kill of the arrow
They do take him out is gonna buy back immediately. It's almost gonna be deep inside this space of the index
They're very far in but there's no building to worry about the pinnacle. It's gonna be down. They get the kill of the mileage
He already used his whole low. They dropped down all those goons the look for gpk
That's gonna be another hero jet get for two minutes
They got the kill of the current edge the new fight turned down back towards wandsid
Jumping they go to the swithers crushes gonna be on the three
But now the chaotic offerings are falling through that's gonna be another and another
Karatich with the BKB in the down, coming through.
He's losing out.
He'll be off to full.
The Syntatic's not going to be enough for him.
Triple kill for Team White for Yandex.
With the axe, the 4x lands on 2.
Laris punches out into the Marcy.
The snowball going to be reflected.
So that's going to send them back towards Malladage.
Malladage strung him into the rest of the team.
He has to just hit a couple of Karatich.
He's going to be in a bad spot.
He tries to blink away.
BKB going to be popped as well as the Silver Edge.
He has to get back past the gate.
But he can't.
Watch.
He gets a kill.
It's going to be another one of them to come over.
He's gonna buy back they do not buy back on this shadow fiend just yet
But they might need the help on the asset as they hit the walrus punch on the same dark low and some trouble
So all once again looking to get the
Reflection break they get the fire they get the fire to save and now the vortex is gonna land on the two
GPK trying to hold carrot. She's still not there Marcy's
Only trying to rebound away finally they get the kill on him again. You need to get something for this buyback
Where is it gonna come from focus fire balling in that support takes on the two
They're trying to get the control of Keratich can't commit in fight for strike once more the arrow locked in thanks to the shards
He's got nowhere to go. They're gonna kill there a hundred seconds. No bristle back
So it's all on GPK and Keratich the call GG
They don't want it but no damage. Crushed butt. The counter-alassel puts them up on this
cliff and they're gonna toss too, they got two! Yeah, both of them. I can kill them,
I can hit them. Should we leave them there? No, I can't
I like it.
Can I leave him?
I don't think so.
Okay, I'll leave him, yeah.
I don't think so, buddy.
There's the arena.
Karir's coming.
Karir to Tide.
It delivered to TP.
But now he's going to be able to T-Shine.
He's going to attempt to T-Shine out of there and be free.
But they get the kill and ruin Panto.
So, two heroes, maybe a third.
now dead.
They've got Avalanche on the 2, they'll have the gush to follow it up, Tornado, EMP, Ace
trying to move away from the EMP but still soaks that.
Fortunes in, the silence is there, they go to the arena, it's on the 2, he'll false
promise himself.
Now the Supernova comes in, the box is going to be in a little bit of trouble but Nisha
is hit with the ball of lightning, they still don't have the damage to get these
kills, the Reigns of Destiny, they've been blessed as they will go and maybe
look for more.
Still working with a lot of atter regen and this shield room the ravage comes through and to ends up dead
They've got the vortex at top of ours the toss is there as well
Yatoro in trouble and he'll end up dead make it with a triple kill
That case that issue called broach they want to get to jump Yatoro's gonna be the one you call him
They've got the vortex though Paul made the Sunray comes through but collapse gonna go for the arena
Unfortunately, he's just a little bit late to the game super devil comes in
It's always going to be in trouble as he should go through gets the kill there on the case
That's one dead supernova's gonna explode, but it's not really gonna matter or with the refresher
But don't have a man to do anything more avalanche toss lands on room as well as Laurel
They get the coat of hands on the call GG
Good morning Dota fans and welcome to Championship Sunday of PGL of the Lachia Season 7 I'm your
host Richard Lewis joining me on the panel in the morning don't get it twisted at home
you're probably thinking, wait, weren't those guys in the evening crew? We're still in the
evening crew with the OGEC in the morning. That's how it works. It is a course T governor.
It is a course Kezu. Super hype to be look what we brought back. We brought him back
into the brought him back. We welcomed him back into the fold. We had it. We took
a vote. Yeah, said it's okay. You know, I had one day being critical on Parker
turned out to be somewhat right. It's okay. I fired demoted promoted up,
indicated yeah and now look at it here I am yeah somehow you've joined me in the
morning though so maybe you've jumped in probably that there we got us down with
you what is the legal reasons there are no promotions and motions based on
morning or evening shifts just be very correct it's all but to me there we
go but what is not memetic is the tail of this tournament which has been
absolutely riveting from start to finish in my opinion you'll be able
to see. Actually, let's talk about the lower bracket first because I think that was like
a fascinating battle down there. Obviously, once you've got the likes of Aurora and Tundra
and Liquid all vying to try and get to that grand final, it was a real tussle. And a lot
of people were like, you know, there's some good teams down there. It could go any which
way. As T already alluded to, Tundra eSports, we were thinking they could maybe still
get to the final despite standing they had Parker in my opinion they completely misused Parker
I think you give him selfish heroes you don't put him on bristleback in the pink so it's not good to
watch so they're out they're gone and that means of course you can see what we're going to be
talking about in a moment is going to be pet boom versus team liquid which is going to be
absolutely electric but if you go up this is the real story your eyes do not deceive you
This is Yandex. There are absolutely crushing it right now.
Super interesting drafts. Super high level play.
Map rotations. Too perfection.
It's been a fantastic story watching them get to the final, guys.
They also have a stand-in in DM.
I think also when you look at their results, like 2-1 against Aurora, then they 2-0 Liquid, 2-0 against BB Team.
Now they're in their grand finals. They had a lot of spicy games as well.
Against BB Team they get back and forth, but this team, I think, they've looked pretty phenomenal in this tournament.
I mean, they've just used this stat in really nicely, right?
When I look at the M, I'm not going,
Oh, God, are you sure?
Especially when you think about him leaving P-Vision,
be it a kick, be it left, I can't really remember the story,
but the idea of him coming to this team
and playing so well, understanding his role,
and then shaping the other players to also do a good job,
I think it's like, that's how you want to use it.
So, yeah, major props to Andy.
And another cool thing about this tournament,
one of the things I love when I work for Valahia's
is on day one,
we have an idea about what the matter is,
about what the meta is.
And we were all sitting here and we were all like,
you know, smoking cigars and mumble.
We've got it all figured out, mum, mum, mum, mum, mum.
It turns out that actually by day five or day six,
what we thought we knew, we actually didn't.
And so I want to just do a little temperature check
with you to find this minds in Dota 2
and talk about how that meta has shifted
and evolved based around picks, counters, et cetera.
So I think the picks, it won't be maybe the top picks.
They will still hold true.
It'll be the heroes that are trying to be picked
counter the top picks, right? Like if we're seeing Oracle with BB and Liquid as a great example,
the Ryzen Medusa for the TA, I think there is going to be any graphic we show you, it's going to be,
okay, here it is. These are the heroes that you are expecting to see. The best teams in the tournament,
the top three teams in the tournament, they're the ones that are now beating these heroes,
because they're not rushing to pick them up. They're kind of finding ways to bait them out
and kind of manipulate them. I think it's also like at the start, we saw like a giga
focus on the supports which you still do, but I agree with Tia and also like Wendy's
like you know as the tournament progresses you have like the bad riders that
go through you know and occasionally a Largo goes through and you need to find
like a new answer same with the tree and like at the start we saw he was banned
in like 90% of games now you see where he's actually been picked like 20 times
teams have led it through and you can see the win rate is good it's not
unbeatable like to me one of the more standout heroes as you can see on like
the top slot I think Tia like going into the tournament you didn't see it
pick that much it was like maybe 10 times by the end of day three but it had
like a nine to like a 90% win rate at this one and it's still holding true like
some of these heroes are very scary but tree to me is the biggest the meme one
right because in the group stage it was like it was like 30% win rate or
something it was like the team was there was 23% there in it like day three
like and everyone's like hmm and the reason why is because of some of the
weaker teams with their hands on it and they kind of like made the stats
So don't always trust statistics guys. Don't always trust the numbers stats lie. Yeah, yeah, that's why now here's some stats
No, I mean believe them first of all we had the Templar assassin thing just on the previous graph graphic
We'll talk about this in a second
But obviously what was happening was TA specialists were picking TA because they like to play TA and then everyone was like
Oh, wow, this hero is really good
And it also seems to be paired really well with the likes of a tree you get total vision very hard to go
and gank in the lane so I had this super high win rate and obviously that's kind of a little bit
of a surprise less surprising has been the Largo story I think we've lamented on on the desk about
how he used to be this very interesting hero when he started and now he's been pigeonholed mostly
with that three slot afk for 15 minutes get an axe and then unstoppable in teamfights yeah brother
is like one patch away from being irrelevant that's that's kind of where he's at like
enjoy it whilst you can because if play him while you can if the boss up top looks at lago ads and goes
Let's change this a little bit. Then yeah, you won't be seeing lago offline ever again, right?
So yeah, you are one valahia away from this. Yeah, because if like tension nice
Like if you're a valve, right and you release this in here and you drop him in like real quick
You're like here you go and then you see oh this my bro is played in one way only and it's like farming 18 minutes
Like an alchemist in the offline
Surely that's not what you would like to see. So I'm gonna see a change on that. Yeah
It's definitely coming
Although when the patch is coming is anyone to guess at the moment so we'll might have to wait for that. Yeah
I was gonna buy the after TI at this rate, but whatever
Right now. I understand tea. Oh have a surprise for me. Yeah, because I
I'm nervous about I'm nervous about this
No, so
And Kezra and I have done this graphic before, we enjoyed it and it made us chuckle at a previous event.
So I thought I'd make it again for you, but I want to play the game of, can you guess what X is?
Just for context, the all four positions of the top three teams have the most.
Going into the final day today, the four players do it the most in their teams.
But Navi's carry has the most by a country mile of any player in the tournament, nearly doubling a lot of the players.
What got the biggest per game? What is X? He has the biggest her game on average correct
It's pretty hard to guess. That's fine. I just want the wrong answer. Oh my god. Yeah crazy. What is this?
This is crazy. This is crazy the graphic like it's before I got the graph. It just gets bigger
Yeah, I know but it's like I'm trying to think what a four does
That you would want your carry doing over double of it's not I don't know if you necessarily
to suddenly want or need them to do double of yeah but I know that you've
probably done it a lot hmm it's part of your style of Dota yeah and they actually
one other hand it's also slacks is style of Dota as well you share the same
concepts maybe when you play oh insults typed right guess I'm at a loss I'm
stumped it's a so average X is X actually is pings the X ping the
pinging oh yeah average insults yeah well I can't ping anymore so because of the
average insults being I mean you dick with him in slacks and the same so like
insults and like but I know that you used to be able to talk in Dota but you can't
right no I haven't been about to you exactly so you used to be able to do
this but now you can't anyway do that either it can't speak on Dota can't
speak in red it's gonna speak on the panel soon why why why is the world
I just woke up and I was just like...
He's just looking at the green goblin mask the whole time like...
I'm like, he's on a crib.
Yeah, I just...
Replacing!
It was so weird!
His mask is terrible!
Get him out!
He's like crazy dreams.
I love him.
I just woke up from like a hot sweat interviewing him.
You're interviewing him!
He's literally like...
I just went to him and I was like, what the...
And then just ace in the corner like,
why are you not playing, bro?
Like, your tide was stellar.
Yeah, nah.
I woke up, checked Lycopedia, we're in the clear.
He's still here.
Okay, ace is still playing.
Good news for everyone. That's how much Tiga loves Dota. He dreams about it constantly when he's not playing it constantly.
This is the schedule. Nice and easy today. We've only got the two games. Remember the final is going to be a best of five.
Yandex, Lai in waiting. I honestly believe Yandex have got this one in the bag.
Vlajha's always have surprises. I think it's Yandex's tournament to lose. They've looked amazing.
team liquid while also cool as we'll talk about few little wobbles at various
points but they're taking on that boom today so let's set it up guys let's do
it where would you like to start I think we can talk about liquid some because I
already alluded to it there with a little joke you know we've had some
critique of some of their drafting particularly when they put the Mars on
ace it doesn't seem to work as well as if they can get that lago if they
can get that tied. But other than that, I think conceptually, I think the drafting's been really,
really good. They've looked really, really strong. So let's set them up. I mean, always in contention
at a tournament.
Yeah, 100%. Going back to the ace, Mars is possible for him last time.
Yeah, let's do it.
Honestly, I think he's getting too much flak because when you're losing a game and you're
playing at bars on a team, you will always be the center of attention. It's like you're
going to play like Winter Wyvern in the five-row. In a losing game, your curse won't get
kill, they'll look like it's doing things. So it's like, I would argue that maybe it's
a bit reactionary to certain things. Like in game one, when they get spirit, like they
did play a very good game as a team huddle, but that aside, I would like to see it again.
I'd like him to prove some of the whimsical haters wrong.
I think he's like inconsistent, because like you're saying he has good, like obviously
he can play the hero, like he is capable. And I think also when you get to the
top three of tournaments, obviously you need to be like capable on the heroes that
you do play but he has had pretty big off-games so I'd say at least one yesterday was the case
like you're up against the Mars it is not an easy Mars game like you're saying like you
where you're playing Mars against the Kez but there's like getting like out CS quite a lot
missing some of your spells but overall you know he has other heroes he can go to whether
it's the Centaur, the Bristle, you can see it here they do share a lot but again Miro
and overall BB team if you look at the hero pool it's like enormous it's like
out of this world it's like every guy is like playing a different hero in every
single game. I don't know if we'll see that today because I think you want to stick more to your comfort
unless you find the right spicy pick in the moment. To what degree T then should we say that Ace it's
not so much his fault but rather you know we talked about it yesterday with Jenkins about this
concept of flowchart gaming you know if X take Y and Dave obviously as a player you're going to
say no I got this coach I put me on that hero. It's because Liquid I think that's very free
and then that moves where before let's say when we talk about gaming it was always like
Ace would farm, he would have like this kind of foundation, but nowadays it's like boxes of course
making these big moves, you can see Mickey running to lanes, like because of how free liquid
want to move on the map, Ace doesn't have the comforts of just like sitting back and hitting
creeps, you know, and then maybe that's where it exploits his like playstyle a bit, because he
doesn't have the comfort of always being top net worth on the off lane, and then when you look
towards like BB, they also have this like flow chart style of Dota because they are very
impressive in how they make moves, and that's why I want liquid to read this flow chart and
and be ready, okay, because BB, they're gonna pick strong,
laning supports, all right?
They're gonna win the lane,
they're gonna use one support to twin gate or TP,
be it top or bot.
Once they do that, they smoke towards mid.
GPK happy, all right?
When GPK is happy, he goes to the wisdom room,
then they win the game.
That's kind of like how they do it.
When these things don't occur,
GPK can become inconsistent, he can go over aggressive,
he supports it to hold his hand.
We've seen Necro games and Hustler games,
where maybe he pushes the limits too far,
but when I see this early game from BB,
if you take any one of these boxes
and Liquid can just break it in half,
ricketer shreds.
That's when BB look like they're more of a human team.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, I would say like the early game,
Dota 101 in a way.
I know even like when you go into pub games sometimes
and you hear Dukalis, I remember there was like the,
they knew about the Dukalis ABC.
You need to walk out on the map, you know,
when you could still take Watchers before the game.
Take the Watchers, then wait, smoke up,
go to the Bounty Runes and it's,
I think very similar, you know,
you want the good laning supports,
you want to make rotations,
force the enemy team to like TP, have low resources,
take the rune and just have one like play always snowball into the other and I
will say I have enjoyed because what we can see on screen is you know BB team
going together like getting up you know their emotions and they also talked about
like having a sports psychologist which has really helped us so I think this
overall just you know getting in the zone with your boys because like at the
end of the day try to like maybe distance a bit that you know there's a
lot of people watching you you with your friends you with your boy just
about to play a video game having a good time I love seeing this I mean
it shows progression as well because don't forget day one the manager going
for that. They're really aggressive. The killer, the killer hand slaps and now it's just more
like yeah don't do that today. Don't do that today please. We still have three minutes,
fifty seconds left to see him do it. It's also really cool because remember not having
a coach with them, they're throwing together these really interesting drafts, they're
really you know powering through this tournament as best as they can and I agree with you
because I think it takes a lot of introspection to realize,
you know, okay, we've been a volatile team in the past.
Let's actually talk to a sports psychologist.
Let's like smooth out some of the rough edges
and let's start chalking up the tournament wins.
Our talent would have always enabled us to have.
No, absolutely.
And it's because like, you know this team,
like we all know this team, you know,
through their last couple of years,
they have hot headed players, you know,
even though I asked Katomi, you know,
in like a kind of joking way,
who benefited, you know, the most from it.
not going to say that about your teammates but at the end of the day some teams will always benefit
you know more from it some players will benefit more from it because they're more emotional they're
more you know caught up in the moment but I think just having this there's no downside really
like whether it's you know huddling like this before the game or talking to like an outside
voice that it is your manager your coach or psychologist anything like this that can like
just because the gameplay is there yeah it's just other things I need to control I'm just
impressed by how long the huddles are thing but this is like this is a real meanest
like what we do in the green room before we come out. Yeah for 30 minutes. Yeah exactly.
Or Chelsea at the halfway line at the start of the game. Don't get me started on that. I'm a new
Castle fan. I've got some I've got some strong opinions. But anyway, I did also see you furiously
loading up some clips. We have got time before the draft if you want to get into that. Yeah,
sure. It's just such a weird day yesterday because like both of these teams coming into
this position had like the polar opposite right liquid epic comebacks and then you had of
of course the the other way around but before we get there. Yeah let's let's start with this one
because when you look at the recent results like BB they're kind of all over the place like
you have seventh they didn't play slam fifth six and fisher they did qualify to Birmingham where
they got first but then dream league nine to 16 so like last place weird one. Balakia fourth so
like very up and down where as you look at liquid if you if we go from the bottom up you know
third at the last balakia great but then dream league nine to 16 since then on the way up
but they did not qualify to Birmingham and one thing I want to mention they don't have an
event coming up right after this. This is the only thing they're playing for. Set this at the
start. You know this is also like another thing where you're like you're slalking it in guys,
this is the only one. Afterwards you get this long and nice break. So you know I'm ready for
them to show it. And let's not forget that BV on that graphic, they hadn't won the tournament,
right? The last time they have won a tournament was season five of LaHia when they had a pure
on the carry. Both of these teams know what it takes to win in LaHia. No, they have that
in spades. They understand this tournament greatly but you know yeah I think for BV
I even seen the huddle as well. It's like they know that for Eastern European teams
They're meant to be the ones that are spoken in high praise to the likes of the spirit,
maybe even a P-Vision, but they're not. They're kind of just like the team in the shadows.
Sometimes they win a tournament, but then they're inconsistent again.
So they're meant to at some point create their own legacy.
And I think they are clearly making the steps to trying to finally get there as an organization.
I mean, I always know like that they can do it, right?
Like whether it's because GPK can take over a game, or even from the support roles,
like Save and Katoumi, we've seen them have incredible games.
It's like save for instance on his ring master like when he off lanes with Miero sometimes they win lanes
So they're not supposed to and I think overall like also carried it
She will she's like the most new guy on the block
I think he's doing really well, but if I look at this like matchup overall like Nisha versus GPK
T also showed like you know the flow chart of the supports going to GPK going to the mid lane
There will be a lot of emphasis also if you look at the overall stats both Nisha and GPK are in the top five
When it comes to the KDAs also the heroes they share a lot of heroes
They want to do similar things for their teams.
But let's not forget on that graphic there, GPK, his hero pool is the type of mid lane hero pool where he invites
Please play your Ember, your puck, your void.
I'm going to find the Huskar, the Necrus.
I want to be the mid laner that breaks you in a 1v1.
I want your spirits to be crushed before you can even enter the game.
Hence why I need my supports to play through me,
because that playstyle can be unraveled if a boxy makes a good rotation.
But Nisha, he's the traditional honest mid laner.
Try and beat my puck, try and beat my Ember.
GP cage like that. Hey, I want my MMR. Yeah, he's been a nasty fucker. Yeah, that's very disgusting
And yeah here we have because we've seen a lot of you know the bad guys that are getting left through so you know
It's go to a team liquid. They don't care when they play against the fire heroes whether it's bad
And he also you see some phoenixes you see some jacaros because we talked about it earlier like the more and more games
They are haha first big bad writer. What's the idea?
We see many different answers oracle windranger Viper storm like in the bottom side
Then you have Weaver with Storm in some other games and you have like Tidehunter, Bane in another one
and then Oracle again with the SD, with the Windranger.
So I think both teams of course have like a lot of ideas against other stuff like Bedboom themselves.
They've played like Io-Marci against Largo.
You know, maybe they let that go through against Liquid, like just test out some of the heroes that you do want to let through
because you know you're at the end of the tournament, you know you've got the skill to beat any hero.
But look at the heroes in BB, right? The Ursa, the TA for me.
like they're the heroes that I want Liquid to respect in the draft, because if Ace is going to play
the Mars, the Tidehunters, the dude on the side of the map, even the Bristleback,
whilst you have Chaos elsewhere, if you enable Keratich to get the kind of the lane counters,
you're going to have to now bring resources to Ace, he might not have that game,
so the draft might make Ace look like he's struggling, so I think Liquid need to protect
him, because their playstyle plays away from him, right? So in short, he can just chill in
the lane and farm. So just before we get to the draft, we can take a look at those.
Oh hell yeah.
No, that's right. One of the weirdest days of Dota 2 I could ask for, right? Because you have BB...
Truly amazed.
Right, so Liquid come back for a 33,000 gold lead. BB they have vision, 90,000 gold lead against Shandex.
They're jumping into the high ground. They saw Storm for a split second. Slark goes for a crush, misses the crush.
And because of that, everything else unravels. You have a double rapier gyrocopter. It's a game one against...
I think it's game one.
Yeah, it's game one against Shandex.
right. Everything on paper says congratulations BB you're probably gonna
stamp your ticket into the finals potentially with such a dominant game
one. Muse never meant to go into the game two but so weird and then you fast-forward
to Liquid Heroic and huh 33,000 gold lead? Yeah I don't know how heroic led
this one goal and I gotta give a lot of credit right Ace critiques this banner
placement image into you but I actually really liked it because of where
it was placed the catapults were alive the entire time but Liquid couldn't
kill it. Heroric then fumbled because they banged, stepped out of position, he died first,
back rider also kind of half HP, Beastmaster died late. They had time on their side. All
they had to do was breathe. You could also argue they breathed too much because it took
them 22 minutes to try and get to this position with a 30,000 gold lead, but Liquid coming
back from 30,000 gold, DB throwing a 20,000 gold lead and now they're meeting each
other in a lower bracket best of three. You couldn't ask for two better teams
to clash. Agreed and with that we now get into the draft but yes T you're absolutely spot on yesterday
we were blessed by the Dota gods we had everything I mean it was crazy we had hilarious games we had
it all we had clifings we had comebacks we had rapers back and forth like can only hope that
today can be as good as yesterday. Correct. Well one of the usual suspects has been led through
But some of the other ones, you know, we've seen some of the cool heroes banned out, whereas Liquid,
I would assume that you're pretty happy with this trade, like TA has looked great,
better than SF overall, and I like this matchup, you know, for the TA into the SF, like you're
arranging yourself, you can play for roles, you can kind of stand your ground, I do think like
pairing it up with more minus armor and like now teamfighting for both sides is something
they very likely could be looking at here. I just love when you see carry picks early,
because it just enables other cores to be just comfortable in the draft.
Some of the best drafts are when you can do this.
There's not always patches can enable it, but so far both teams will be happy with the staples that they've got.
I would lean to the TA. I think there's a lot more kind of roots of play for the hero just to break open games.
SF, strong laner, but you have to argue a little slower.
You require combinations to utilize the Requiem. If it's a Yashakai build, that's a massive yarn.
I mean, he played first and last, right? First series, fourth series, that's waking up.
One for one, the easiest one.
We'll get a coffee room on the go, I think.
But yeah, I mean, look, I think it shows how far we've come in such a short space of time as well,
because I think day one, day two, that TA is a kez.
Yeah, Ordos Heroes is like Warlock Phoenix, or Warlock Shadow Shaman, or something like that.
And that's why I really enjoy the latest stage of the tournament, because
Any tournament with this many teams, again, wonderful to have them all on site,
but you are going to have some of these teams where they just see the matter and go,
we have to play it.
They're not trying to find solutions to it.
They're just picking it.
And then they'll try and find solutions on pick four, pick five.
But their foundation will always be, oh my god, it's available.
We need it, right?
And that's not how you win tournaments.
But it is the easiest way to approach a draft.
Yeah, like going into this next stage of picks, I generally have
we've seen TA loses either by like a hard carry matchup like you've seen him
do center TA I have yet to see this hero like losing the early game or get
heavily collapsed on a hero I'm still missing is brewmaster that's something
that DB team could potentially think about like in their next phase like for
Miero he's definitely I don't think he's played at this tournament but it's
a very good matchup into the TA and if you're liquid or overall for both
teams there's a lot of supports left in the pool that are strong it's the
phoenix it's the warlock the shadow shaman steps in the pool so is tiny
so like if you're liquid I think going out of phase I think tiny can just be
good for you, whether it's your mid flex or your post 4, if you lane into an SF, he's
kind of annoyed by it. If they want to flex him into mid, he's very like afraid of a tiny
threat as well, just running into mid, getting a tall spec. So I can absolutely see that
for Liquid.
No, I'd love to see that. It's against TA, you want multiple heroes that just independently
just gain armor, get annoying to kill, right? The casual go-septimal support, the tiny
that levels the ultimate, you want solo crest and like any way to manipulate a fight
and focus on skirmishing fight, that hurts to you.
She's all about deso, blink, I don't really want to buy BKB,
I want Daedalus, if I force BKB,
my game can get weird if it's at the wrong time,
so liquid taking the tiny, no complexity.
And that's the key stat there.
That's a good one.
When they've had the tiny, they can flex it to the four.
I think in general, I've been very impressed
with the emergence of tiny across this tournament.
Seems to be a go-to hero that if you need them,
you can flex the four if you can do that,
But ultimately, someone that comes through a lot of match ups, relatively unscathed.
Obviously, we saw Nisha do some amazing tech into a huska.
But again, it boils down to the graphics that we showed earlier, right?
The top five positions.
None of the top five positions.
Look at a four-position melee hero and go,
I'm going to stop you doing your job.
We're not seeing like Shadow Demon 5 every game,
Batrider 5, Bane 5 every game,
where you can just nightmare, flame break,
or do whatever to stop this melee guy running around.
I think that alone means you can't pick Tiny and his job is already done.
You've made the off-laner, not feed three deaths to the hero.
Okay, so go for the Centaur.
I mean, Centaur overall is just, I think it's just been a solid pick throughout this tournament as well.
You already see it's like range carry versus range carry, so you can stamp he to help your team.
You have the card later potentially as well.
I will say, you don't really pressure the TA that much, especially when it comes to the laning stage.
So when it comes to the early game, I think carry TA, on-maker, should be up.
You know for a good game don't really see too much pressure at least as of right now like centaur with turret heroes in general
Yeah, for sure. Let's just engage and everything. Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what I was gonna go to it's like it's just it simplifies the later portion of
Gamerate, you're gonna have crimson's maybe lotuses on top of that axe cart like every item you buy on centaur
Boils down to we can outplay a TA style lineup if I get the items at a good enough timing
I mean, so like looking at ace, I don't know if they want to like pick their mid here
You could keep your flex open, but like picking your offline
I feel like there's some avenues that you could go for I don't think we've seen too much slaughter from ace
But that's a hero that could happen. Of course your lane isn't amazing, but you give a lot for the game
I think other heroes he has played would be bristle, but personally, I don't really love bristle into SF
He's like one of the better carries, but you can't get him through the game
You have to be careful with the the earth's a pick on 18. Yeah, like you can't really tie it here
because you just get straight up Baird, like on 18.
Yeah, SFN goes mid, you then, you're looking at a tiny, between 4 mid,
sure, tiny thing goes 4, you find a new mid lane, but it's like, it can be awkward
if you invite the Ursa there.
That's right, like maybe you could also like look for a way where you lock in your mid here,
or you pick a range forward, and then later you feel like you can take A-serial last.
What if Liquid do pick the tide, they bait the Ursa,
and now BV have Centaur SF Ursa as their tricor.
SF need jesha kaya blink sento needs ores us and his fury like there's a lot of greed the way liquid in playing
They can't break that but
Maybe with the TAs a little bit too. So it's not the right carry to break it. Maybe they can but then I'm just more looking so
Because like the ember band maybe if you were more looking at like, okay
We're gonna there's a high chance we might tie it or pick one of the classic ace heroes
Like you even said it before the draft started you need to be like aware, you know off the earth
severe when you are going for that so I know if the Ember has like more to do
okay this is for a niches pick later down the line or is it only for we have
to end the safe thing we want to like not give them a super easy time to take
the mid where he can walk over okay they they go for it they go for the
under load the winner and the hero is yet to win mate is it still yet
that's the one that's it once you see one win you copy that replay you
study it you're ready it is the gospel enough you go but they do want to
Continue the tiny flex down the line. Well, you are inviting you aren't you are inviting the bear
But as much as the bear is very strong at least puts BB in a very farming
Condition for 15 minutes of the game and that's where all three cores have to farm 15 minutes
Normally when you talk about that there'll be an element of an ember or a voidsper or another hero that can at least go
Hey, I'll make things happen whilst we farm by having three farming heroes
That can be scary
Yeah, we'll say wilder because
I've been more impressed with Kerry SF definitely I do think like the mid SF has like a harder
It's harder to execute against very good teams
You know one little avalanche of whether it's just like a TA trap that just like pops a small silence to like own your old because
It looks like that BB team, you know, even though they had the option. They're just like, okay
We're gonna lock in the SF to the carry. He's happy, you know, at least when it comes to like the laning stage
We're gonna take the invoker a hero which has looked incredible
You know, you have Sunstrike set up with your two heroes slow in the safe
If you have the center stomp on the off lane, so you're overall very happy and against TA, she's here that you know
You admitted like 35 40 you have the low BKB time if the fight drags out in Walker incredibly annoying
But now the DB have to ban like Storm Sprite
I think they do that is in my head when I see Invoker after how the kind of the tournament from moving
Storm the Invoker, I want to see some I don't give this anymore and don't take the Invoker into the storm
No, we've seen that as well
But the band slaughter so is the 21 band that you see on your screen is that going to the stone spray?
And then that aside they now need to fight a full position
I'd love to see a save dark willow personally a little bit of root and nuisance against the TA
Just when you see the fiends get come in you just throw all the stuff on the ground
Do you really want to run through the fiends gate when there's roots and potential terrorizers?
It's a save specialty, but we just don't really see the hero too much any value in moving
to mid maybe? How does that matchup play out? It really depends on what BB go for and
the style of play they're going. Like if their 4 position can rotate and make big moves, then
maybe your 4 position can just stay as tiny because you can follow it. But for save I'm
like ringmaster willow that I hear is I'm looking at and then for liquid. Yeah I would
say it's ringmaster for BB. Yeah. They left the storm. I think that should be your
go to. A lot of Storm Invoker matchup. Yeah and Storm has generally been like you know he
comes out on top because Invoker doesn't do anything to you. I think CJ Invoker was the only
one that did beat the Nisha Invoker like one time but Nisha still ended the game like eight,
two and five or something like so he was not pressured at all. I think it's also what Liquid
wants like you have Static Underlord, you have Static TA. The Lion and Charmin ban as well. It's
I was like, hmm, we don't want Nisha to be a runner at all, or instantly jump.
I was thinking more of the most instant heroes, but Liquid very much, Hex is gone,
but that does amplify both Ring and Willow now, as for Save the Player.
Yeah, I think that these are also the best heroes overall for him.
They go for the Ring, and now Liquid, I'd be surprised if they didn't go Storm,
just for the fact that the lockdown on BB is it's a cold snap of tornado a stomp
an ice path and a web it's like things are not reliable for a first home I mean
we've seen this matchup so many times I'm surprised that this is going through
we saw yesterday it literally happened storm into invoker and the storm won
both times and it was even picked into it like in terms of like the wrong
way around and it's also what liquid should be looking for maybe there's
a cool like four position for boxy I don't really see the value where you
would do that over picking a new mid one here potentially would be a mossy yeah
because then you can like buff up the ta you can play map but oh thank you for the
willow nice so this is gonna be tiny mid okay so you just get like it's a nicer
lane at least for ace and niche I think he still has like nicer things overall
like for himself you have playability into the invoker he's kind of slow you
also have a toss back which overall is kind of nice like you know maybe you
can toss him away before safe can overall save them you have the
built in armor yourself as well against the SF and I think while the invoker has
looked very good throughout the tournament I think there have been a lot of
games where the ofteners didn't really interact much with the invoker whether
it's like a slow hero or a Largo who doesn't really do anything when you have
these Mars centaurs on this game on the Lord even though on the Lord himself
is a slow hero like just having fiends gate level six level seven where you
can go on to this XOR guy who's very slow I value that's quite highly
Both very obnoxious into a centaur as well, you know, Bramble Maze, Pit.
Yeah? No, absolutely.
And like the way that box is going to play the Dark Willow,
is you think maybe about an early blink dagger, paired with a tiny,
they are going to be running around that the entire time.
If they see a hero top, they'll run bot.
If you see a wasted TP to bot, you're running top.
Like Liquid wants to get into the game.
It's quick map play, utilizing trap vision, fiends gate, sniping hero kills.
And for BB, it's just discipline, farm, get my auras, hold each other's hands,
hold each other's hands, get to an objective, crush them at the objective, but for Liquid
it's very like free and open and skirmish.
Right then, I'm gonna ask what our commentators think about it.
We've got Bebop and Rocksteady, they're ready to go, how are you doing guys?
Doing good, but I hate those damn turtles.
That's actually, see, he gets them.
I don't get it.
You don't get the reference?
I don't get it.
I got your edge anytime.
Thanks, Ben.
That's why I love you.
I don't know what I thought about it.
Whatever.
What do you think of the draft?
I do like what Liquid have, but I also have seen BedBoom team play extremely team-oriented.
They're going to have four heroes when Liquid's going to be bringing two,
they're going to have five heroes when Liquid's going to have three.
So definitely we should keep an eye on that one.
Yeah, I agree. I mean, we've seen BedBoom pretty much like five men at 12 minutes into the game.
They overwhelm with numbers. That's where they found success.
I feel like the games that they're losing is when they're not getting anything out of the map
with those movements so I kind of trust that boom a little bit with the
I'm also hoping we get like something like we had yesterday just end to end you know some
double rapiers being dropped and high ground flops fails you know like we I don't know how
we're gonna top yesterday honestly but we'll try yeah it's a tough day to have to top it all and
I don't know I kind of agree I want four divine rapiers this game all right well the game is
He's ready to go guys, I'll be counting them.
See you on the server.
Game number one in this lower bracket final.
Four Divine Rapiers is what I ask for.
Will we get them? I don't really know.
I feel like Devines are either Cairo or not.
Yeah, this ITA does love to buy Divine Rapier,
but heroes on the side of BB Team, they don't as much.
I've been very impressed, I gotta say, by Invoker,
what this hero is gonna be able to do,
what he was able to do throughout the tournament.
Even when you don't have really the setup, when we're looking at the stun setup, ideally you want to have these shaman's, you want to have lions, you want to have something that can potentially lock them down in place so that Zinvoker has a pretty free time.
This time around they have slows and they have one stun coming out from Centaur.
Yesterday, Kiritich on Shadowfiend didn't have that good of a game.
It was kind of a hit-or-miss type of a game where he was unable to deal the damage, he
was heavily focused in the laning stage, I think he started with 0-3 and 0.
So I want to see if Baby Liquid can replicate that.
Underlord is a bit of a slower hero.
He needs heroes to rotate to his lane, otherwise he's not going to be doing as much, but
But once he hits that level six, then you can have a little bit of global presence as
well.
We'll see how Ace kind of plays this game.
I feel like whenever he's on a hero that isn't quite the Mars, it goes up 10% on win
percentage on what Liquid's able to do, especially with Ace's performances.
Because we saw him with the tide, he had a really good performance then, and now
we see him with the Underward, and I'm really excited to see him here because, you
know, I want to see how Liquid react to what we've seen from Beppu and the
five-man rotations.
they avoid them, do they try to match them, what's the game plan, and Nisha's on this
tiny, we've seen him with the Zero a couple times, he looks so strong with this tiny,
even if he doesn't get a lane.
He did look insane.
I really like the atomization, a lot of times it is a mix, sometimes you need to, I think
in this one, he's gonna go for Blink BKB to have guaranteed thoughts, there are
no BKB piercing abilities, so it makes him almost invulnerable once he gets to
to his second item. And a lot of the times we do see Shiva's as well, reducing the attack
speed, reducing the healing, depending what you're playing against, and also providing
vision. And then you start to scale with picking up the Aukterine core.
We're gonna have this offlane with Miero and save, save on this Ringmaster, and we've
talked about this Ringmaster ad nauseam. It feels like we just only compliment this
hero, and the Impelmen arts are disgusting. It's such a tough spell to go up against,
His whole kit is really kind of it's an insane here. I feel like this hero could be I could lane with this hero every single game
And I would feel okay problem is this hero is all about the skill shots. You miss those impalement arts
You may stain the beast all these also relatively hard to use professional east ports athletes
They know how to utilize this but sometimes it can't feel wonky if you miss it
If you don't have like anything to set it up in this game
They do have you have like stampede to get close you have invoker with his spells tornado specifically jacquero
So a lot of good ways that you don't have to go in first and try to make something happen with that wheel of wonder
That means you can be going for the saves and having that escape act to try and help these heroes away from potential avalanche toss or
some sort of Bedouin terrorized combo
You see I'll save
Approaches the lane even early on this
this team that beat us so much damage, but for the Templar Assassin they should be safe.
I feel like the only opportunity really is to kill this Warlock, and speaking of Warlock,
something we've talked about is not allowing him to get those Grim War pages.
A lot of teams have kind of spent a lot of effort making sure that they're not in
a lane that's going to be giving up too many assists or kills and potentially even just
kind of avoiding giving him any potential of getting these pages and getting that six
quicker.
It's pretty similar to how people are playing against Visage with the death toll facet when they realize we can't give them away kills.
We can't give Visage first blood where he gets like 500 gold from the kill, it makes playing so much more difficult.
Same thing can apply to Warlock and this is a very, I would say, strong lane, a lot of control where you can keep people inside the Firestorm.
Once they hit level 3, two points in Firestorm, plus the Pit of Malice, and two points in Bramble Maze,
both of these abilities are going to be super effective against Stampede, post-VKB as well,
but mostly Stampede, where you're not going to be able to run away.
Quite a lot of AoE control, choosing where you want to be taking the fights.
Yeah, and on top of that later in the game, of course, you'll get that Accinance Scepter,
but Katomi getting first blood on Ace. There will be a trade on Heritage.
Katomi might also die going into the Shadow Realm. This one feels kind of dead in rights,
And that will be Boxy cleaning up the entirety of the lane,
getting that second one on the Jekiro.
So they do get that first blood on Ace, but pay for it for two kills.
And was using that Sun Strike from GPK.
Again, what I was getting at is, you know,
Axe comes out for Underlord eventually,
where you've got the multiple Pit of Malice's.
It's such big zone denial.
And we're gonna be able to fight them in these games.
Yeah, and that Bramble Maze, oh, he's just dead again?
Uh, Keratich?
That's back to back and belly to belly and that's not good.
I thought it was a replay for a second.
Alright, his game is over. We said can they replicate what they did to Kiritich yesterday.
But it was like Team Liquid, they could do the same thing. Yandex, they were heavily pressuring.
So now we're going to see if they're going to turn them. Is this the second or the first go?
This is the first one. It's 0-0. Okay.
And then Kirtzich dies, he's gone, and I think they just did the same thing to Katoami while
we're watching this replay.
Katoami's dead again?
This bottom lane for Beppu is questionable currently.
It all comes down to if Underlord is going to be putting, like a lot of times when
When you play a hero, you tend to pick a skill that you know you're going to be getting.
You play this hero 500 times and then you get Atrafura and then you don't have this combo.
So really glad that Ace is taking this through, even though it's 11am, sometimes the professional
e-players, they are sleepy.
We saw on cameras Nisha, yeah, big yawns, but in terms of gameplay, they are delivering.
Nisha sitting at 34 and 6 on Tiny against 26 and 6 on Invoker, yet to lose the game on this Tiny.
Yeah, I think what, it was Underlord who got like their first win of the Tournament recently yesterday?
Yeah.
A lot of interesting numbers when it comes to win-loss.
Free Gen Room bottled for Nisha.
Kadome, he is gonna die again, thrown through a bramble.
Getting that first win in 8 games, that is 12.5%.
He should with the regen rune, he should be able to just sustain in the lane, he will
be happy about everything he's getting right now.
This isn't the point where Bat Boom usually move around as a group, but there is, I would
say a little bit less of what we were seeing from them in previous games, because I know
They know that they are big enjoyers and bringing both supports towards the middle lane for that 6 minute rune and there's Pinamales going off again, fires storm, shadow realm strike, that cuts the kill, carriageage dead again.
4-0 and 2 for this Dark Willow now 4-1 into it.
Super high level, he's about to be level 6, he has more XP than Underlord and Underlord is going to pick it up so Warlock will get it unfortunately for Dark Willow.
Although we want to see Dark Yellow be level 7, 7 minutes in, it's going to be Underlord
and I'm really glad that Ace is maxing out that Firestorm, like they have the combo, they have the damage.
So the pipe is probably going to be coming out from both of the offlaners as their first item
if we don't count in Helm of the Dominator as one item, which means that they want to reduce that magic damage.
They want to be reducing them as much as they can because it can get pretty difficult.
pretty difficult than Isha. He found the perfect rune. Does he have soul ring, which means the spam is
going to be there every single time. Toss is off cooldown. He's going to throw it on the GPK.
So let's try to get that banner creep. But that technically does not help the percentages.
Trying to stick in this lane because Isha's having a great start. He's up 600 gold to the
Invoker. And Isha, he's been the best player of the tournament. You know, looking at those
markings of KDA and everything that he's been able to produce with a lane, without a lane,
he has had an insane tournament and now you're giving him a hero he's yet to lose on in this
tournament. Having a good lane against this Invoker, it worries me about Beppu that they
They might not be able to be the ones kind of expressing their strategies of putting the
pressure on with multiple heroes where Liquid is now going to be in control coming out of
these lanes.
I think the whole idea for a Bed Boom Squad was to have these two supports who have insane
amount of damage, who can roam around the map and get stuff done, but they did not expect
this bad of a start for Shadowfiend who's sitting at 0-3 at the moment and Liquid
making a move.
They want to get something else done.
Boxy is level 6, Bedlam ready.
Coming over with the Abilance.
Team the Beast said, now they'll terrorize too.
Nisha, he's in an odd spot.
As GPK comes in, taking a lot of damage from the Bedwulf.
Hit a mouse, scout onto the Reckly above.
Curitage.
So they do kill Nisha, they look for Boxy, Sunstrike.
Dropping down away from this dark wall, doesn't land.
But they shouldn't still be able to get themselves a second.
And they bring the numbers. This is what Bedboom excels at.
and it works out in their favor.
They needed to bring the numbers.
Both of the supports, they have insane amount of damage combined up with Invoker.
There was also Stampede after Reddy if necessary, but Miro for now, holding it for himself.
And also he found a good creep while being ripper in the top lane.
I see that Mikkei is trying to play a bit more aggressive onto the Centaur,
knowing that he can't put the pressure as a Centaur onto his hero,
so using Hurricane to push him away.
And also try to get the creep wave towards him.
But we also didn't talk about to make a he has complete free farm on this temporary assassin a lot of the times you see hero at
0000 you're not grabbing any of the kills because you don't have the kill set up playing with warlock
But you are having complete free farm. Nobody's touching you in the lane and ten minutes in sitting at the
5000 plus all this feels good as a carry
So he does we talked about to our assassin at the far they're able to get the entire the time and save
He's just going to be dead running away from this chaotic offering as well as to all their heroes
liquid
Taking it again to mid and we've seen this of course with warlocks
They like to drop these chaotic offerings in a fight that happens near the tower
You can put the pressure on take the tower most likely afterwards and that's exactly what tofu is going to do
We just first chaotic off
Playing with the catapult, Kevin toss ready as well, Nisha, except another active rune.
He did have shield rune in the previous one, he hold it until super late, tried to bait
him, maybe he's going to be able to survive, but the overwhelming damage as well do not
underestimate the damage that Bedboom Team can do.
6000 net worth for the Temporar Assassin untouched in the top part of this map and it is very
scary the amount of farm that they're getting and this is just TA things.
McRefire committed, we will wonder in and they will get Tofu for the cost of both their
ults but that is now Kebomie after struggling early on in the lane, dominated.
All starts with that Dark Willow kill he got in the bottom lane returning when Dark Willow
was sitting low.
Getting there a little bit, getting back into it as he's now top support net worth.
Going for the first item, Solar Crest, and we'll have the Paps.
You want to have that item when you have these long range turrets, Medusa's, Shadow
Fiend's, Dragonite's.
You want to amplify their damage and again you are playing against Templar Assassin so
that's going to be extra protection for yourself.
And something to point out is that GPK is going from Road of Aetos as his first item.
You've seen the newer build on Invoker recently with Meteor Hammer which gives you good mana
regen, gives you good stats and also allows you to push these towers relatively early
on and have a better combo.
But going from Road of Aetos, I think the thinking is I want to be the one setting
things up for my team.
They are lacking stuns a little bit knowing that Centaur is going to be grabbing a pipe
before he gets a Blink Vaggar, so they need some form of a catch.
They need to be able to start a fight and it's a setup for Ring Master spells, it's a setup
for your Jekiro who have insane amount of damage, cost-mech with the GPK.
Yeah, catching this in Voker.
Fiends gate also committed, bet him right on top of GPK to get the kill on the
Voker.
Right near this tier 2 tower now that they're pressuring the tower immediately,
but they will push the creeps in.
the mobility of the lineup, especially with that fiends gate, and Liquid still working
with this 1000 net worth lead.
It's not, I feel like it's not as big of a net worth lead as the game might feel, because
it does feel as though Liquid have been doing a lot of the pacemaking.
Yeah, they've been very clean in a lot of their games that we've seen so far,
They just know how to put the pressure and not making any mistakes.
You see them sandwich the enemy team.
Suddenly it feels like 1k gold lead and then they win a fight.
They take one or two objectives and it's a 7-8k gold lead that a lot of times they do just let go.
Rekai with the fresh report today.
So man, just to secure the last hit on the tower level 12 on this Templar Assassin yet to be involved in a kill.
But this is what Templar Assassin players do.
They love to get insane amount of farm.
There's a massive difference, almost 2k difference between two carries.
Pick up a blink bagger, then you get more involved.
Pick up the hurricane pike.
It's also a very good BKB game.
There's, as we said, nothing that pierces through debuff immunity,
but the cape, he continues to farm up,
and the network lead continues to grow.
It certainly does, and he's holding onto a great healing lotus.
So if they come to gank him,
not only will he have the refractions, but he's going to have that extra heal,
it's going to be very tough to kill this temporary assassin.
Especially with how far back they are on their own side of the map. It really does set him up for success
We've talked about it feels as though you get to that 15 16 minute mark and they've got 10,000 net worth on temporal assassins
That's exactly where we're gonna be sitting with him
I'm really curious to see what bedroom do to even dive in that far or find this TA
Because they are just letting him get the whole world in his hand
We will wonder that one's up Asia out of eight toes as well as the reckoning of combo
Nice half-macro pyre, well placed by Bed Boom to get both kills.
Nicely done, nicely executed by Bed Boom Team.
Their teamfight is insane.
Just the teamfight that they get from two supports is pretty nuts.
And then you also have Stampede that can bring you closer to the enemy team
plus everything from Invoker.
And even Requiem on the edge clips a couple of heroes.
A big fan of this Rotovators.
It's just a setup for any kind of spells
the bacon throw in, set up for both of the supports, one bad thing is it's Jekiro who's getting all the kills
so eventually he's gonna get killed and being the support
You would definitely love in this type of situation to get that extra bit of a gold on your Shadowfiend, on your Invoker
who didn't have that good of a start
Yeah, it's
Feeling like a ticking time bomb for the Jekiro a little bit
Hard to stay alive as this hero as
as you know they get themselves the blink daggers and the ways in the fiends gate jumping forward
and just cleaning them up especially mike who's going to be able to two-shot jikiro at a certain
point in the game he finally leaves that top end of the map comes through towards bottom but it's
here to still continue to farm he wants that dragon lens he's got that blink deso wants to get
charges on it eventually interesting pickup from nasia usually we don't see boots of travel
on Tiny as your second item after picking up the Blink, but they do have global presence,
maybe they think we can try to outfarm, then we can farm anywhere on the map and then join
with Blitz with Travel, Fiends Gate, so it needs to be Boxy who's going to be setting things up,
Boxy, he was off to a really good start, still is, almost has a 4-stab, that's going to be a
very good item that can push people out of trouble against Road of Aetos combo,
You initiate with the Centaur, like even two supports, it's just such a valuable item pick up in this game.
Speaking of value, you've got Miero, who's sitting here with greedy chipmests.
We've seen that more and more, that teams are realizing that GPM, if you have a farming tool,
like an Invoker, which Anisha did yesterday, heroes that don't necessarily need right clicks to farm,
picking up GPM and yep there it is in GPK invoker as well. Why not? Why not?
Exactly. In the jungle found save for a second but escape backed to make an
escape. Shadowware doesn't get the kill there either he's just able to get away
with a bit of help from himself and that tumblr's toy.
There will be a lot of greedy coming around.
We're starting to get close to that 20 minute mark.
Thinking Torm, thinking of course Roshan, if you've got the Templar assassin with the
Deso, it's going to be quite easy.
The boom have to kind of be aware of the timings that Liquid are setting up for as
they will be starting to kind of bear down off.
that 4-step you were talking about finished on Dark Wolf.
And Nisha looking for an entry point to maybe get a kill here,
but Niero, he's a tanky one.
Not sure if it's going to matter how tanky he is,
with everybody here for the side on Liquid.
He's standing for you to skate back,
Kintamao's locks him up.
And now, they'll look over at Niero and get this kill.
Directly, him flies up.
And it's like, he's just doing a face-to-face.
He's tanky, and in behind the tier 2.
However, that made cost him as he's slowed up,
Sunstrike lands, and then the toss back.
It's out of the game.
He's getting here, follow me.
He's actually fine.
following and they will get the save on A-Sticks to the Shadow Ward from Tofu.
Uh-oh, that Sun Strike did not connect in the end, but a very nice play.
Nisha finds an opening, they go on the tank, he's hero.
And we did say that the Bramble Maze is gonna be super effective,
plus pit of Malice controlling this Stampede.
Rest of the team, they can't really get that close.
He can't run away with the Centaur.
They continue to farm up, so at least 6k gold lead for Liquid.
And it's been steadily going up, that boom, or quite having the answers.
And this is the timing I'm talking about.
You're in this 19 minute mark.
Go get Rosh.
You just want to fight.
And then you not only did that, you took the tier two and you'll have yourself an
Aegis, probably a Tormentor, and potentially, they want to play it that aggressively,
both shots.
They can definitely do it, having this global presence, big fan of these boots of travel
that Nisha did pick up, lowering the cooldown, how he wants to play the game, he can be anywhere
on the map, and Hurricane Pike, Blast Shard also on Mickey coming in relatively soon.
Going really well for Liquid.
If I don't have that Blink Dagger on Centaur, but is that initiation going to be good enough
for Betboom?
It's still really unable to kind of put together the numbers game that they have success with.
Look would have been matching them, they've been out farming them.
So even with the numbers, it just has not felt as good from Betboom overall.
They're going to bring over the Tiny to go for the Torm up top, because Mickey
Already here, Shadow Ward to keep him healed up after the refractions get pulled off.
And that will be a shard for the Dark Willow, so even more control for the side of Liquid.
Dervu, he comes in close, gets the Shadow Ward then leaves so that he doesn't die and doesn't get anything.
Boxing on the complete opposite side of the map, gets rewarded for not contributing. That's usually how it is.
It's either you die, get the shard, or it's somebody who's not helping. Gets the shard.
At least that first one.
No look for Kethilmi, and Nikkei is here starting to put some charges on that desolator. Easy kill on the Jukiro.
Who also died previously and gave up a decent chunk of gold.
Though look over me, they have found themselves the tiny the Requiem right on top heritage. Without but the wheel of the Wonder,
we'll take out Misha.
Wheel of Wonder, having that control, getting that burst damage with the Requiem right on top,
that boom will get something back in their hands, but it is still a significant lead for Liquid.
Once they get BKBs up, it's going to be very easy unless they get surprised on by Decentar,
unless they get tripped up by Tame the Beast and Wheel of Wonder.
This is a still very strong combo.
strong combo. If they're fighting close to Underlord with two auras, it's not
gonna be as much damage but you can see the power of Shadow Theme especially when
he goes for Yashakaya build with the blink dagger now going into a BKB. This
hybrid mix build and Shadow Theme does seem to be working out in most of the
cases, like compared to just straight-up physical. It depends on the game what
you're playing against but also big fans that people realize that you
can still, like you don't necessarily need to go for Ags, Yashakaya,
a refresher instead you can go for slightly more damage-oriented build like
right-click physical and then you can still go back to refresher if necessary
because this hero farm is extremely quickly in this game he is 4k behind
Emperor assassin who's off to too good of a start he got killed three times in a
rule lane had to walk back to the lane so definitely expecting him to play him
from behind but the combo is still there
Definitely have the right idea and maybe they can hold the high ground with it because Liquid
put the pressure on and have a minute fifty left with this Aegis.
We're very early into this game, only twenty two minutes in every outer tower from Liquid
or from the side of Epimum has been taken by Liquid.
It's tough to not really have access to your map and it's there but it's not safe
When you don't really have these towers and rotating the things or trying to potentially take on Roche or go for something is going to be much tougher without this kind of access and that outpost also controlled by Liquid there too.
Getting that OBS taking out.
Continuing to shut down the vision that that moves trying to get out there so they can
Find some safety, some farm, they find the arrow, Abel edge, shot the stampede, then toss it in the air, still running a little quick, but eventually that runs out, stun an ace, put a ballast, and then the Bramble's the curse crown, it all pops, eventually the arrow's just gonna die.
They might stay in the pit for a really long time, like we might see heroes getting proc'd.
Proc'd the pit for like four or five times with Bramble Maze, with Terrorize, with the
Tossback, they can keep them inside combo at the bottom again.
Yeah, they found Esha, Keratich getting that kill on Esha once again.
Oxy here to fight Kylo, they've won solo target, gonna be a good amount of damage
for the Sun Strike, but Shadow Realm hits and now he needs to get through the Twin Gate with the
Glimmer Cave, Dual Breath, and a raise from Carrotage. He's got a double kill.
Let's see if Nisha decides to go with Sheila's Guard as his next item, or if he wants to switch
things up. Maybe he wants to pick up A on this, because this time around they executed the combo
a bit unexpectedly for him. It was pretty much Jakira with the Ice Path setting things up
into big Requiem. And we've seen Keratich yesterday, even in a losing game, whenever playing against
the Andex, that he was playing around the Twin Gates, playing in that area, waiting for
people in Shadowblade to come through the Twin Gates, so maybe he gets the Requiem,
he gets the kill, try to delay as much as possible. And so far, it's been working
out, getting two kills on Nisha.
Nisha's been the one that's slowing down, but the big problem will be this Tempor
assassin they're gonna have to find a way to kill him.
3-0 and 0.
Esha.
Not gonna fit.
They are over towards top, they've got Ace bottom, he can come in any time at the fiend's gate.
Taking their own shrine in 25 minutes.
Tia's gonna be an even bigger problem when that Daedalus gets finished.
Our smoke, they are looking towards mid, there's a regen root top, nobody really showing out
too far.
And Kiritich is about as far as he's willing to go in that bottom lane, that's where he
got a couple of kills.
They are starting to pinch over and maybe they get some vision here.
The smoke from Beth boom.
But both break, Wings will miss, Esha with the impaled arts team, the beast will go
Tophu the cataclysm to get the damage out, now they throw the wrecking out there too, but Nisha gets the BKB off.
Pinamales now following up, the fiends gate that have the agg, the sector full supports are in trouble, firestorm on top, save.
They got the kill on Kethel, Omi and Mithae is going to be dominating, and he's got himself another kill on this tempore assassin.
Very good, Rock. From Tophu, stopping Shadowfinn from getting the Requiem combo on Tanisha, allows him to get the BKB this time around,
and then the four staff push him out of the trouble and immediately they go back to farming.
You can see them keeping out Tunisia, he teepes to the top lane
and the map is getting smaller and smaller for BedBoom Team.
Shrinking to the steps. Just will not feel safe in a game like this.
Wildwing will hurricane itself. The tree does get the kill under gold for them.
The air is showing, but blinking back and liquid again, all three lanes kind of pressuring towards the vet food side.
One of each those avoided. EMP's not going to land. Toe food nearby. They've also got the brambles. They forced the BKB out of GPK.
He's just lingering outside the base for a little bit too long.
Liquid, they're going to wait out until the Roshan respawns. Maybe they can get a pick off, but right now everybody's staying full HP.
Ace immediately goes back to farm to the other side of the map
This is pretty much the similar way that they've been playing when Dawnbreaker was a popular hero
Because you can get quite a lot of farm on the other side and join the fight with their ulti
No reason to really be all too close to your allies until the fight pops off
You'll have to put a malice around your fiends gate anyway
A lot of greedy coming out again for this
Tier 3 items.
SEMTARP, he upgraded his level 2 enchantment into level 3 greedy enchantment, 100 gpm.
From him, you do farm with your double edge and you farm with retaliate, so no need to deal the right click damage.
As you said, it's gonna be a big problemo once Templar Assassin gets all the Autumn.
And they caught the Templar Assassiness who'd be a massive kill to get, and they will get him.
So now the little phrase who came in with the fiends game, but he is having some problems with the terrorized hits on the two
Paleminar to get an ace. Who can they follow this up? Icepath, the Paleminar's tossing him out of the Sun strike,
hit him out, he's gonna be down, but they let the hunt stop. Tornado flies through, hits ace, double edge again.
He's trying to get away. He is tanky, but he's been left by the rest of his team.
This should be a dead underlord and will be. They lose nothing for it. They get the Templar assassin for the first time this game.
with the help of the Envy's Shadowfiend that ends up getting the right positioning for
a Requiem of the Followup.
Oh, and the Roshan, Roshan just spawned, which means that they can see it.
Gpk, he's picking it out 40 seconds without Templar Assassin.
If they manage to kill this Roshan, get Shadowfiend the Aegis, it could be pretty massive and
they have the damage.
We're going to see that again.
Here at this, you're storing with the idea of getting butterfly to have a better overall carry to carry matchup against the TA, but instead opted to go for the Invis, which still gives you insane amount of damage, caps the move speed to 200, and also gives you another way of escaping or setting things up.
Goal and drop.
Back in as she became with BKB, looks over at Boxy, should get the kill out of this Dark Will and Warlock. Back to Roche, they go. This game is even.
Both supports are liquid, they have Vivek, let's see how they're going to approach this.
Misha, Gem ready on hint, VKB, Shield Runes as well.
There's the tree, he's not the one to jump in.
Let's not want to lose this Gem.
This game completely tumbles back down even.
Liquid controlled the first 28 minutes of the game,
and now Beboum have a chance to take over.
Some big items that are coming out for Bed Boom Team.
Agatham Scepter about to be completed on Centaur, Invoker with his Glypnir.
Gpk is lacking some levels. Both him and Nisha are lacking behind compared to Shadowfiend and
Templar Assassin who are super high levels. But the items are starting to pile up and then
you're gonna have another support. Like you have Glimmer Cape Lens from the Ringmaster,
Escaped-Act, Jokiro has about just enough gold to finish off his four staff plus the Stolar Crest
and also Centaur with the Agadamn, Centaur so multiple saves and if they can pull off the
combo one more time try to surprise them get the big Requiem with Aether Ice Bat with the
Centaur Stomp should be able to grab them to kill.
Kirito is looking for another movement in. She needs to be careful he does have a shield here
Going forward to kill the courier, but it drops off the Shiba's guard.
We did it for two minutes as Nisha, using these boots of travel to move around the map
and try to farm as much as he can.
Pick up a couple of loatices.
GPK started with this Rotomate toos and BKB felt like times were kind of tough for
him.
he has sort of show some impact and you know he is still sitting bottom of the
corner at worth however he's starting to get there catching up to Nisha who's died
a couple of times in the same way with that wreck we have dropped down right on
top in there a couple of deaths between that 20 to 30 minute mark that he was
Caught alone and found himself being blown up
Still the lowest network core, but his impact is very visible with cataclysm
Controlling the fights as well. They have so much control so many low cooldown spells even from both supports, Anisha
And again, it's on cataclysm will wander all there and they will get this tiny
Get this jet
One of the reasons he didn't jump into that roge pit was probably to hold that gem a little bit longer,
but now, since that point, there was nothing really done, he ends up dying instead, and he's giving up the gem.
Yeah, that's why I thought maybe he's gonna be picking up A on this, because it allows him to get a BKB off in a fight,
no matter what happens when he gets shummed.
Octarin core is such a valuable item on Tiny, you're lowering the cooldown,
you're a blinkbagger, Shiva's guard, and most importantly, all your Abba and toss.
Now, the med boom team, they managed to pull it back.
Pulling it back and having a different style
that they've had the last few games.
I think that it was very heavily early game oriented for them
to get to this point in the tournament,
and this game showing more so resilience
and coming back from a deficit
and playing a little bit different
to how they have, like I said, got to this point.
Yeah, this has always been like one of their strengths,
their laning phase. And also one of the weaker side was them coming back into the game. And
so far they've shown that they can do both. Kiritich, one minute left of that Aegis. Can
they find another opening? As a dado, this is going to be right-cooking R, but they want
to go in. They've got to toss the S-Path locks up Nisha right through the hands of
Ike. They'll try to think about the terror eyes, but the damage coming through underneath
Nisha is very felt. That BKB is going to run out in a moment. The plate of
Malus locks down Kiritichi, he's got himself the Aegis and that's going to be used.
So, now, respawning.
Inside this pit of Malus that was there for the Feeds game, they pop the BKB, but the
damage for Mige is too much!
They get this kill, Tofu's the one who gets it, and can they get anything in return to
the side of the med boom?
Instead, they'll lose what looks to be Miero off this hurricane pike at right click for
Mige.
The Cataclysm will finish him off, they at least get the Tempar Assassin.
Now Jikiro in no man's land, and that will be another kill for Liquid, it ends up being a 3 for 1.
But a salvage of killing off Mikkei, it feels alright, but it's just not good enough in a moment like that.
They find the opening, Gnisha, he pops the Sheva's guard first, blinks right on top of him.
And we can see that GPK, he's doing the most damage, and this time around Mikkei, he was able to keep the distance, get the right clicks in.
That was why he was going with the idea of getting the butterfly, because all of the right clicks, like you're receiving 100% of the damage from that Templar Assassin, and you see how quickly he dies.
Sunstrike landing there on a Miike, who then pops the BKB. It'll be down once the respawn happens for Karatage, but even trying to run, the chaotic offering thrown in, it stuns him up to the point where he's unable to get away from the damage that Liquid had.
You also don't want to be running through Bramble Maze, running through Pit of Malice.
It is so much control from these two spells.
Sure, you get a kill on Nike in the end, but you also lost a lot, plus you also lost the gem.
And with this type of a fight, Liquid pulling it back for themselves.
Nisha, holding onto that gem again.
Finally getting their gem back.
Having a much better outcome on their end of the fight.
And they'll have to take these next few minutes to kind of just figure out what they want to do next
Do they want to fight? Do they want to farm? Are they knowing Roche is going to be up with the Templar Assassin? Third eye?
They have plenty of options that they have the information for
So that's a real question there on how Lick would want to play the next five minutes or so
After a fight like that, you're able to take Kira to Chow kind of with ease
Now he's only going to have one life. Tamera still going to this shit
35 minutes and he's still pulling the creep wave still holding up to GPM enchantment
That's why he's so far from the centaur. He's more farmed than both of the mid laners
Greedy chip vests really
embracing the name 3d
So strike off the mark
I believe, what is an A on disk for Dark Willow?
So, Boxy trying to survive a little bit longer
within these engagements.
And Disha, I did mention maybe an earlier A on disk for him,
but it seems like he managed to survive.
He did die like two or three times afterwards,
but it seems like that's going to be the item of a choice for him.
With Dr. Incor as well lowering the cooldown,
lowering the cooldown of his BKB.
Then maybe he can upgrade as well to his blink dagger later on, have overwhelming blink with
Sheila's Guard, it's the most fun you can have in Dota 2.
As a video game you blink in, and then you slow everything down, they can't blink,
then blow assassin also did hit level 25, and Mika usually, like most of the TA players
go for the other build, but in this one he went for Melt Head Bash, so he can't
be the one having that extra bit of a control and also stopping Shadowfiend from getting
the rectium even though it's almost instant with yasha kaya with the blink if he doesn't have meld ready not gonna be able to do it but
It's also a lot more control for the bkb targets
What was the because that bash used to be longer didn't it used to be like 1.5 seconds. Yeah, that's what I thought
Point 8 even feels disgusting, but 1.5
She's
long time on this secondary timer for the Roshan
liquid aware, but
that boom having to
Figure out how they want to approach the next few minutes knowing that Roche may not spawn for a little while
Yeah, yeah was 1.5 and 7.23. Thank God, and then we moved it to set the one second at
From on 739 one second got reduced to 0.8 still just having the bash ability
feels pretty insane, not that only holding on to the big lotus for the next fight.
Having that kind of bash ability be half of what it used to be but still be a level 25
shows just how strong it can be. And the fact that it was double at some point is scary.
Coming in on 39 minutes, yeah ringmaster still holding on to the greedy doesn't
to give it away probably wants to get into the Aeon disk before swapping out of the greedy.
So many greedies.
Greedy there, greedy there, greedy there.
And then that's it. So still three greedies.
Kind of just standing still both teams putting the posture onto the Roche and farming a little
a bit getting a level 25 for that extra pin of Alice route but both teams looking
for that opportunity at the next ages because it could be make or break of
the game. Definitely a bit of an issue if you're not on the receiving end of
that Aegis. I'll rotate over through the middle lane waiting in, kind of hoping somebody drifts
over from the side of that boom. Nobody really showing in, GBK just in-viz. Ace, he continues
to farm on the other side. Level 25, Underlord. Extra 0.4 seconds on Pit of Malice Rook.
gonna be a fun one. Yeah, not. Not for the side of it. Definitely not. It's multiple of
those. I also want to see what his last item is gonna be. Like he can still be bigger. He
just finished off his 9 second BKB. And he's ready to come in. Those pit of malice
is already on the map.
Compound and Arts flies through this dark will, but the Andis gets pot.
Now they go to the Tatek, so they're trying to get the kill to there on the center.
Tarp of the Bed-Boom, the escape back, but he's still within the Pit of Malice.
Pops the DKB into the Pit of Malice, comes in, Karrot just gonna four-step away.
Keanu Coffrey got used, nobody's in on the side of Bed-Boom just yet.
Liquid using a lot there, not to get everything, but they go right into Roche.
Karrot did choose in Saitanic to remove Bed-Boom, Ballot, this Ballot.
They're dying so quick, they're already down to half HP.
And seems like Betboom team, they're not gonna be there in time.
Not making it back to this, uh, and Roche pit at all.
I don't expect it with the way that they went for that, but they went wide out and around.
Shocking that they wouldn't even attempt to go back in.
Oh, it's gotta be more fit of malice's it's refresh the shard on ace now
So he could potentially have four of them in the fight
So they'll take the other objective of the Tormentor
And that will be a shard for safe
Yeah, this doesn't
Bodewell with the...
...incede amount of area denial with all those pitbalises.
He gave it away.
He did give it to Tofu.
So two golems, he definitely has mana pool to use it.
And this... and this... are coming off cooldown...
...for Liquid.
How do you fight this if you're Bebboom going into this Aegis?
Or how would you like...
...to fight this?
They can also play a longer fight so they have ways of setting things up with the combo,
but also their second round of spells is pretty strong, with multiple ice baths, buybacks coming up from the supports, everything from Invoker,
being able to reset on Shadowfiend with the BKB Satanic.
And if you're a liquidary, you just...
I'm trying to wait for somebody to kind of be out a little bit too far.
Can you risk just going up to the high ground and pushing in?
I don't think you can just go for the high ground and start attacking the tower you're playing into so much control
He was doing with the idea of getting satanic to have extra bit of HP so that he can stand in the fight longer
And there's a couple of annoying spells that he doesn't like to play against something that's like jacquero
You get hit by one dagger you can't really be blinking and then yeah ops to go for nullifier
wants to be able to jump the hero and
Aincense McKillie, these Glimmer Caves, these Solar Crests,
Jack Hero, he has three support items,
Solar, Force Staff and a Ghost Scepter.
No fire is going to make life a lot less happy for Jack Hero.
Save getting Coastal level 20 on that,
Ringmaster by the way.
There's a lot of things that can't be nullified in the game
like even stuff from Ringmaster, you have Escape Act,
his Glamour Cape. Even Alacrity that you throw an enemy carry is removing quite a lot of damage output.
So start to poke at the Seer 3 Tower.
And, Bepoom Chikiro is top. So not everybody here.
Now he'll come back. Again, the Ace is not pushing out. I would have thought maybe top
to then Fiends get into this, but for right now he's throwing in the pin of Alice kind of protecting
these creeps, it got the banner, Alice starting to hit the hatch, but he should go sit with BKB,
trying to get an avalanche out as well as a tossback to the team and they hit the escape back
that's going to be on the centaur who also used that workhorse. So basically an infinite save,
like he uses this workhorse, he puts the escape back and then you don't see the heroes,
you can't attack them.
Yeah, that was both heroes disappearing, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Thanks, Wreckingham, flying in,
and they'll get the team of beasts, they hit the fear,
they have a great near, but Mickey's not going to die.
They already threw out the requiem,
so they're not going to have that for the rest of these set of rats.
Tornado lands onto two cataclysms laying down.
They get the Aegis out of the hands of this Templar assassin.
Keanu-Gulf, we have another roll of wonder
that's going to hit onto this Templar assassin.
They found the control of the ForceZap back to B, KB going back to B.
ForceZap, ForceZap, ForceZap, where do you want to go? Where does the TA want to be?
They'll finally put Kertich into the back of the wagon.
Mckay, he ate the cheese. They used two golems, and they didn't even finish off the barracks there.
It seems like Liquid, they were not on the same page.
That was scary.
Yeah, Tiny jumped in immediately after Templar Assassin died, and I believe Mckay also jumped out.
Still, the high ground defense for BedBoom Team is pretty insane.
Like the amount of spells, the amount of control that they do have once they get the initial stun
is pretty good, especially with this hex picked up at GPK also got the Blink Dagger,
so he can be the Blink Hex Initiator.
I wonder how often, I don't know if we've seen the fact that
the escape act is now a double save with Workhorse.
It's an odd one.
I wonder if it's the same way for Undyne, if you threw a workhorse combo duo of teammates
inside the tombstone.
Yeah, it could be the same with the spells like disruption, astral imprisonment.
We ship into bottom lane, the wind waker ready.
And level 25, two thoughts charges, he's going in, he's getting avalanche.
To the gate, out of the gate, they do have a pyro created by Agz.
The three heroes win it.
That is a terrible spot to be in.
Nisha's going to be dead immediately though.
Go and try to TP out on this, under ward, but the damage coming through is not going
to be enough.
They'll find Boxy, they land the tame the beast with the ice path down, and
that should be a kill for the side of Betboom and will be for save.
Katobe ready with the upgraded macro pyre and that is well liquid being in a lot of ire of
Beppu. I don't even know if that vocabulary is right, but you guys get it. They burned down. They got
They got lit up
They had only two heroes in that engagement and Tiny doesn't get the BKB off
But that freshly bought agatm scepter he's still holding on to greedy he understands that he doesn't need to upgrade it straight away
This is so aggressive and it's not everybody from Liquid, I don't know if they expect everybody
to be there from Pepoom, but I feel like you can probably shoot with the way that they
played and then you're right into a full macro pyre.
It was a three man ice patch into three man macro pyre.
The fight at that point is already over, Tiny.
No buyback available for Nisha.
He bought out onto that Wind Waker.
Off to the high ground they go.
Bit of malice.
Ace is not in base.
He still needs to walk from two to three tower top.
There was a lot of damage done on the mickey.
He's gotta be careful.
Onisha.
The push in, Boxy brambles down.
Here it's trying to run.
Bit of Alice is there, thinking about the terrorizing.
Four steps back.
They've got their own banner.
And they are retreating.
And they can't push the high ground against this.
You're playing against traps, the slows.
Bit of ballast is Bramble Maze, Fatal Bonds and Upheaval, like these are area denial spells.
So many of them.
It's just a lot of circles that is very hard to get through this.
You named a whole shopping list.
Like that was insane.
Nisha, Avalanche, on it.
Jatiro toss up into the air, but they got the escape back.
So now they need the core step up out of the high ground.
The Wheel of Wonder will be thrown over.
They're gonna hit the sides a couple of these heroes.
Another going in.
Nero wanted it.
No fun in this main game.
They're gonna kill her.
The Templar assassinated him.
It was so quick.
Try to get back into this one to salvage it all with a workhorse and into the cart.
Kiritich will go.
Nisha on his tail, Shiba's guard, but broken.
Boxy right behind him, hit by the tornado.
They are trying to get out.
The third episode of the Sun Strike is actually the Cataclysm flying forward.
The power of the sun, baby, and that's not going to be enough to get the kills,
but it does deter liquid from going in any further, and they bought back on the TA.
They do know when Roche is going to be out.
They do know when that time is going to be.
now they have to get Roche. That's their win condition getting buyback out of Mika. He is the damage
dealer. If he's out of the equation they have a lot of annoying spells but it's not the spells that
they can die to. Like you might get tossed into the tower at the pit of ballast but if you still
have your BKB you can run away from that damage. And Ace, he does have bashers so they have
multiple ways of stopping people through BKBs. You have Baster on Underlord, you have
Templar assassin with the level 25, 0.8 seconds melt hit bash.
I will say I don't know if I'm feeling the melt hit bash right now.
But, pasher. Okay, we're under ward.
Crimson going full abyss.
He wishes this was an old Abyssal player, but he could jump in, blink onto the hero with
the item.
He is like, this is one of the slowest heroes in the game.
He doesn't have boots of speed.
I say bring it back.
That's just me.
The jumping Abyssal.
It was so obnoxious, that supports really hated the play against this.
Oh, I would yeah, I'm right there with you as a support player. I hated it
But as a caster, I love it
conflicted
Couple of raises to clean up the creep wave over mid and all liquid towards the top end of the map
They know that rushes up now
But bedroom is by it and I don't quite know
No, they're high ground defenses, insane.
Foxy also got level 20, which means minus 7 seconds cooldown on those brambles and going
into Octo-Reen Core.
So they just want to lower the cooldown, play a bit of a longer fight, play off those pit
of malices and Bramble Maze, toss backs as well, they have two charges, lower the
We'll cool down on those with Drancor hoping that Fulham Wall never get out of that maze.
So we've got the overhead view of them in the maze when he throws it down.
We'll see how they maneuver, but not looking easy.
52 minutes into the game.
Even in net worth, only 36 kills, but tense pressure for what feels like the last 15 minutes or so.
Let's see the high ground defense in action.
Bit of malice, traps, Kiritage going in.
Trying to finish off the tower.
There's the blink of the head.
GPK, the meteors are down with the deafening blast, going all around.
Tornado also landing onto this dark willow.
And this will be pop toss back to the rest of the team
Sit back with ace just trying to be the ace of base
Defend as much as he can here at this ready to jump in alacrity shadow walk and swift blink
Elm and art sitting under the underword still waiting for that moment to jump ramble bases down again
That's going to be the rain tracks gone
Asia off to the side maybe looking for his jumping tornado where he once stood now look at the play from Asia
He crosses the catapult at a quiz them away from the banner so they can actually kill it
Because it was only hitting on a wine didn't really do that much damage. They've got the escape act on a kirtage
Bottom center acts are taken by the side of that boom
And they will just retreat there's nothing to
Four synges, yeah, they don't retreat completely, because they don't need to, but maybe they can shift over towards mid.
They did send Invoker there to clean up the creep wave, and that might be their next direction.
They start to pull themselves in that worth lead.
Jupykay also has Refresher, which he gave away to Sentar, because he is buying his own.
He does have enough money so multiple saves that could come out like the percentage base damage spells are also insane
You have this upgraded agonist scepter on impaled with arts
Firestorm as well, but you can see the circles from liquid. They are holding them in place
That boom finding a way how to siege through that this time around they did have a banner which did help out a lot
That boom, now pressuring mid, that was the idea with Invoker moving back, as that
Kiritich leading the lane.
They don't have to pressure immediately, they still have a minute fifty with his Aegis,
they can kind of set, push out both top and mid if they want to, or kind of wait for
liquid tabbing number out and each of these away from the base. So Ace needs a cataclysm,
Keratich stands up on the high ground, goes for the tier three, but Liquid, they're so coughing,
trying to be defending on circles. And good four staff play, immediately pushing him out of
the trouble. They can go for this slow type of a siege. Blankane with Keratich,
Minute 15 left with that Aegis
Question is, will they be willing to go once the Aegis expires?
EMP thrown out, more impalement arts being thrown across the place of this base
Tofu
Have used that chaotic offering, the Golem stands tall and looks over as this
That boom line-up still doesn't want to pierce through mid and commit completely.
There are five traps onto the tower. Extra slow, bit of ball is slow, get caught in the brambles.
He's got the shard on it too, so these are going to be traps that add a little bit more of an oomph.
As the golem will time out, but the toss back that's going to be out of character to try to get hit while he just expires instead of just pulling up.
You're down with the macro player right on top of Esha. He's getting low burns away
And he's got my back. It's gonna buy back a look over as Curtis get picked up by this part the workhorse pulling him away
Making an escape but the BKBs have been used they use those ages or ages singular
And then give Curitich the refresher shard
But it's not slotted in to potentially have another BKB go instead
They start to shift off towards top and split up a little bit completely from the middle
Meros forced to use a BKB in these situations to get the workhorse safe because he can't maneuver through the Bramble Maze
You can't go through pet of malice. So every single time he's waiting with a BKB
Might not be as easy if he gets thoughts back twice
It's not been the most committal high ground takes, but it's starting to get the work done.
Got the work done bottom down, they look towards going through this jungle and maybe even switching
it up to top, but they're in this middle ground between top and mid.
It's just throwing some raises, having those creep waves tie immediately.
That'll have the creeps on their end pushed through.
But look, what a liquid dude. They can't even leave the base.
Seems like they've been stuck for so long. They are finally starting to make some steps and go to their own triangle.
But this is a dangerous play.
Not everybody's making that commitment.
They don't have buyback on Tiny. That's the big one.
They can't allow Nisha to die. He just purchased A on this.
this. She was guard blink avalanche and then the toss back into the pimp out.
Fifty's gonna try and get the damage up. They're gonna get a missile blade.
But if the escape back to the back part's gonna be down there,
we're gonna pick him up in the work force, but they don't quite get him in the cart.
They get the count of carantige. He could not pick him up.
Zero stars. That's a bad oomper. He never got it in the car.
But they're backing away as they're taking a lot of damage up the side of the liquid.
These heroes of Bat Boom without carantige, are they committing?
As it looks as though they'll sit over mid for a second, but I don't quite think
They'll make the move all the way in as that Sun strike lands onto the Tart Will and will buy back.
He's got more on the back line here.
He's used that fiend's game to get to the side of the map where they're gonna buy back a current change.
Another pit of Alice is down, they go to the right wing, that flies, he flies out,
and now they'll look for themselves to get Nisha.
Nisha may have this back, but he goes into the workhorse once again.
Tossed one more time, that's gonna be loaded, doesn't matter,
Mieros in trouble, the escape vector's there from save.
He glibbertakes himself to try and stay alive and help out this Tart more,
but he'll end up dead. So Miero gone for 95 seconds, has Bynak, and still bedroom, they linger,
but will it be for much longer? Oh, these toss backs into all of these annoying abilities
makes it impossible for them to play the fight. And now finally, you see the toss back play
coming into, like, Abyssal Blade immediately after, so that Kiritich can't get the rectum off,
kills him off from 100 to 0, and no buyback available on him. Someone made a call that
They should keep pushing.
Let's see the Roshan respawn timer.
Could be up very quickly without Centaur.
Who does have buyback available, but it's gonna be also Team Liquid.
Kevin Templar Assassin on the team with the third eye.
Centaur is gonna be up.
50 seconds, it'll be right at that 60 minute one.
Tier 5's potentially coming into play.
They were not able to get their workhorse.
Karatich was left without that pickup.
Couldn't throw him into the cart.
Couldn't feel like he was in the beginning of Skyrim
and well ended up dying.
Wasn't just an arrow to the knee,
it was a meld strike to the face
and avalanche and a pit of mouths.
He was Fusur dead.
Here we go, 60 minutes.
But they know Roche is up in 2 seconds so they're not committing for the tier 5s, they're
instead committing for Roche.
They knew the exact time nobody is here for Beppin.
This will be all the goodies for the side of Liquid.
ages this time for Nisha. Shard for Underward. Cheese banner on Boxy. Surprisingly nothing
for the Templar Assassin. The TAs got buyback and Nisha does not currently. Keep an eye
on these tier 5s. See who gets what when they get it?
He's still using Whisper of the Dread for GPK with the boundless and upgraded a tier
5 upgraded. That's kind of disgusting. Well technically it's the tier 4 upgraded, or the
Whisper of the Dread, the previous one he had and he's kept it all the way to tier
tier 5? Minotaur horn for Kiritich with the Evolved on it. Okay, I like what we're seeing
so far. What's your favorite tier 5 like us? What would you be taking in a situation
like this? Because tofu with a cobalt cuff and this leaf is interesting. It's a valuable
item this is not a tier one item by any means and what's my favorite neutral item from tier
fives I would say probably the zoom I was a tier four neutral item before there's a
lot of fancy stuff that you can do fallen sky looks the coolest I will fall on sky that's
my go to but I see a minotaur horn on shadow thing he wants to maneuver through those
mazes it's the only way out he's the only one who knows how to get out of the
mazes to zoom blood right for boxy rich shadow prisms in odd one for tofu right
I still don't know who wants this one but I mean a feverish is good it's it's
good maybe he thinks he can bait with it bait with this illusion because this
of the hero that you want to jump in though he does have A on disc. Yeah, save took the
same as well. But with balance, so extra cast range. So one fall in sky, three books of
the dead, 1,000 experience per minute with max mana bonus for a hero that's already
level 28. I like that because he, Nisha, is in trouble because I know Wind Waker out
of the Meteor's BKB, Avalanche lands at a GPK, they've got the escape back and he'll BKB himself, the rest of the team is off to the side, Karatich.
He might need to retreat a little bit quicker than this towards his team, but thinking over in Boxy with the raises, but now it needs to leave.
Blinks away from the Avalanche, the Prandlemaise does not connect, another Wind Waker, Sunstrike off the mark.
And Anisha probably wants the XP because all Katalim and they get a jump.
Got the hacks on Anisha for a second.
Illusions!
I reckon the base.
Luckily they have to deal with this.
Makropyr also committed by the way.
Maybe the reason why he opted to go for the XP per minute is that he didn't take...
requires no target. Usually you get that talent and you also want to be getting to level 30. He's
level 25s are insane on Tiny with Octrian core lowering the cooldown. You can almost perma have
avalanche bramble maze which is also on such a low cooldown it's on 11 second cooldown with the
shard the zoom blood right on boxy. I mean this game is just it's just getting ridiculous at this
point. And we do have Book of the Dead on top of that. Not gonna be that effective.
Tossback. And there's the workhorse. Escape backs. This time he was throwing on to the
Shadow Fiend, not the Centaur, so that's why he was the only one inside the escape
backs. And Ringmaster almost level 25. Ringmaster is the one who has Nullifier.
Same, same has some crazy builds. Like back in the days, he was the one that was buying
a Bissellblade on Keeper of Delight when they needed to stop the Black Hole from going off,
and now you see the Nullifier as well.
His level 25 is going to be insane, right? You take the Escape Act Grant's strongest
spell and flying, and you'll have two charges of Escape Act. Yeah. That's...
And then the other one is plus 100 Wheel Radius.
Like end range so that I guess he already has boundless he has enough gas range and the
deafening blasting on this get to the wind waker for Nisha he'll run blink almost back
into the tornado he just will expire we've spent those five minutes just kind of contemplating
tier fives are best. Five more minutes and we could see some replacements on these tier
fives if we get that far. It's a great way to start off Championship Sunday. It really
is. The 66 minute game so far. I also think that Liquid has like better play in terms
of how they can maybe end the game. These post 60 minute games sometimes require you
to do some fancy stuff. You have Underlord, so you can TP in with the full squad with the Fiend's Gate,
Templar Assassin, maybe she can get the Agathem Scepter, go for a little bit of a split push,
TP onto those traps. Remember the good old days of Underward, you could just zip with everybody.
The days of Uber award.
Double catapults coming through towards top.
Double toss.
Ooh, gets stopped by the blast.
Doesn't take the damage.
It's the slow siege now from Liquid.
They feel comfortable enough.
Kiritich has Miro behind him.
They've got Underward, of course, defending the base.
Both teams want to go for a bit of a rat play, Shadowfiend and Centaur, thinking about pulling
off the combo, whoever shows up here, and then maybe going inside of the base, pushing
this bottom part.
Shadowfiend can blink in with the Swift Blank, get a couple of right flanks onto the Barracks,
Centaur with the BKB can save him from the trouble.
Right.
do like a little bit of rat play who can be the better rat colony who can have the
more aggressive relentless rats because this is looking like it's gonna require
some some rat play and also to point out say with the cast enchantment with
boundless extra 275 with his ether lens check the range of nullifier so
So once Nisha blinks in, he might be able to grab him, like he might be able to dispel
that A on this, and dispel Wind Waker.
No, that's like the whole screen.
That's some far range.
That's pretty ridiculous.
And the escape back too.
blink meaning he can save from quite a distance out. That is gonna be tough to do it. He should
by the way get closer to that level 30 with that 1000 experience per minute. Everybody
has their 5 acts available, nobody's spending out. Miero losing that courier that had
the ag's blessing on it. We'll have to get a new courier to deliver that blessing. Both
teams just so scared of letting it rip. They've never watched Beyblades before. Also Tofu.
I'll get a job.
There is the A on this.
They've got the Nullifier that's killed onto the Warlock.
Doesn't work against the Nullifier, even though he is super farmed.
Pretty much everybody's sick slotted.
We have some fancy items.
No Golem on death.
He does have four extra fatal bomb targets.
The Warlock actually took the plus four fatal bomb targets on 25.
Not the Golem on death.
I was expecting Golem on death.
As we had that huge conversation yesterday about having a billion Golems.
Aisha got what he wanted from this Enchantment Nuke.
One can be picked up soon.
In 35 seconds, they need to farm more Matstones.
But this pushed him towards level 30.
Definitely did in minute 69, nice, as we're about to get into 70 for the new
trails like you talked about and I'm ready to see what everybody's gonna get.
So it's like Christmas morning all over again.
I would like to know the statistic of how many 60-minute games make it past 70.
So I feel like it's more often than not.
Rosh is up, Stampede committed, they're riding on Ace, look at the damage immediately with
a macro fire, Kethil because if they throw out that requiem, that'll fly back out of Kethil
or gone to Karadzic.
Looking for the Sunstrike, Boxy, Glimmer, Kate gets away from this Shadowfeed.
They only got the kill so far on Ace, but if I make it, right in the face is Miero.
TP out of BKB, hits the hex, but it doesn't matter the BKB lands, lasts long enough.
And there's also Amplify damage, Rosh is available.
Even though the centaur's sitting there, casual 6000 HP before even using double edges with the shard.
Yeah, he's gonna be a problem. He's not gonna be dying as easily.
Roxy wants to use the Bramble, terrorize.
It lands, but...
Is this enough time to...
No, I have buyback in Fiendscape from the Underward.
they choose to go in on this actually took the wheel radius and and range
I was a little shocked to see that for safe
I usually you don't see this hero hit 25 like it's a very rare occasion
and now Garethage holding the Aegis he has a refresher who has a refresher shard needs to
give it away to someone it's gonna be ringmaster
The cast range of Wheel of Wunder is kind of insane if you hover it, but you have to
zoom out.
You have to zoom out, which means you can just do whatever you want from so far away.
However, I still feel like Strong Dispel and Flying on two charges of Escape Act
It's like too good to pass up.
Yeah, the flying part is kind of weird in this one,
but the strongest spell feels really good.
You are playing against a bit of ballads,
these bramble mazes, so it gets pretty annoying.
Underlord with the swift link.
These are some fancy looking inventories
that we're seeing right now.
Tiny also upgraded his.
T.A.'s looking very divine by the way,
and I asked for four divines in this game.
Fast we can do is one so far so far
Maybe we could do more
Shadowfiend with a disgusting
55,000 net worth, but that's because in the backpack doesn't work like this can't use them from there
But you have refresher BKB
Now you have casual 10,000 gold in your
Backpack and now he is trying to find something rest of liquid
Minotaur form for Centaur now switched off the Fallen Sky
Tiny still needs to farm his mad stones
Does you need to farm 20?
Which is a bit tricky Nisha doesn't want that
XP anymore doesn't need mana sitting at 2k plus mana pool
It doesn't need the experience sitting at full 30.
What are the options for Kiritich?
He's got Minotaur Horn, he should be happy with that.
Books of the Dead coming in.
And they will send these Necro books into the base.
They're trying to get it done now.
Keratinch, chaotic offering on top of him.
Acro Pyr putting a lot of damage on Epoxy.
They'll get the kill.
He's got about a different two minutes.
And now they're jumping.
The epicyplated.
Another Acro Pyr flies through where they've got the cells.
The cart.
Oh, we all wonder if he took the bitch.
Yeah, we all wonder all the way back.
And now forcing this side of Liquid to not even come down the steps.
They get the killin' of Ace, they takin' him out, he's not buyback, escape back to stare, the blinkin' of the hex.
They gank, force back, but now trying to put the damage on, the Requiem lands, he's feared away.
That's a long fear to deal with, there's the Terrorize, that's a fear of their own.
But can they fear into a victory on this one?
Toss back out of the Centaur, who's got 6,000 life to handle, but the Ripping right through it!
They got the killin' of Miro, they'll take out the first life of Keratich!
It's the cheese on Nisha, BKB tossed back out of the invoker, back up out of the high ground.
Skatebacked under heritage, but they have left GPK.
That's not his face.
No man's land.
And he is dead.
Has Byback.
Will he use it?
Do they want to still commit and continue the fiend's gates?
And a bit of Alice.
They'll get the control.
They'll get the kill.
Heritage is gone.
Toss up into the arrow.
Once again, the arrow's going to be running away from the coming self-scrushed ground.
The control.
The damage from Mika is just so much.
They cannot handle it.
They kill Miro again.
He is dead two minutes, no buyback!
And this is the disgusting thing that I wanted to see, like these toss backs into brambles, into a pit of malice,
nine tosses, eight avalanches with a pretty cool cooldown coming up from Tidy in the previous one,
OctoRion Core, minus eight seconds of avalanche, so you gotta have it permanently.
And let's see, if they can maybe try to go in and close it out.
Divine Rapier purchased on Mckay.
He's got the one I still want three more will they be able to defend they do not have sent our for 85
Here comes the underlord ace coming in level 30 for Mickey they're not buying back. They're holding for now
How long are they are they just willing to give up Megas?
I guess, I guess so.
They know there's a full minute 4v5. They have 10,000 gold in the bank. They have these Necro books.
They're ready to go in and potentially close it out. GPK 15 seconds. Those are long 15 seconds.
Jikiro's got his Necro creeps inside the enemy base. But the new creeps just spawned and now it's your 4s.
Guys, you get a buyback in time, now they're just going for your throne in the buyback!
What?
Well, they saved them for game number two. I don't know, I like to know.
What?
You had to use them. You had to use them.
Take a fight 4v5 with Liquid. They got the top in this one.
Misha again on this tiny with infinite tossbacks into Bramble Maze and Pit of Malice.
They could not move.
I don't know what that throw is, but after a game like that, you are forgiven back and
forth all over the place.
But in the end, it is of course, Nisha's tiny that does the work necessary to secure victory
for Liquid.
what a beautiful game right you have the liquid early game aggression breaking bb
bb utilizing their big team fight that come back into the game there's just like
so many things happening like when you look here also like they're up 4k gold
they're taking this fight they have like again Nisha and all of these things
there's toss backs you're coming in with the another right here you can kind of
question should bb like take this fight and then you go into the next clip
you get like another toss back I mean it's like just PG of a lock you have so
many insane games I mean it was a bb right we saw yesterday right the
from them when they go to high ground they weren't able to utilize their 90,000 gold
lead here they broke liquid tempo they got themselves in ages you could argue
they're moving in a position to win the game they then dive hey liquid welcome
back to the game we gift you a double kill on the shadow fiend thank you very
much it was when you saw it on the odds you know in game it went from like
this is this is done liquid of one no problem all the way back in the
other direction only to go all the way back in the other direction and in
In the end I think it just gave up measuring what the percentage was because I think the
game ended on 50-50 or something.
And here is where Katomi, if BB had won this game, my guy would get in the MVP, alright?
Yes.
Like if he has the Agnes pick up, of course against Underlord, his gameplay is simple.
See Fingate Press Spell.
But then Liquid, they can mass TP in!
Yeah, that's what they did!
They did both of those, so it's the base, but yeah, no, the one thing to note is
what with Katomi, which is kind of cool, later in the game after this he actually
bought ice blessing on a position five so he had more inventory slots for ghost
scepter for gem for bank crest all the little things right normally you hold the
ice you buy another big item but it was really cool to see that little kind of
adjustment for katoi me but again it wasn't enough because bb they uh which
yeah they just get me this is just like a basketball show like we should just
keep tossing people like back and back and back because they're up 22,000
gold like in this clip so like liquid you know they're still like finding
these moments to like overall bring it back because at this point I was like kind of afraid for them
I think like save as well on the ringmaster. He was owning with all the boxes
He's super good timing to like save from the nullifier because it wasn't pre-applied in the fight and like this whole clip
It's just toss back delay the fight toss back buyback tossing back again
Like we saw them if there's like if the fight recap comes up. There's like nine avalanches. There's ten tosses
But that's also like baby a fight still going. Yeah
I don't want that one!
Let's just enjoy the fight and then we can think about BB's buybacks, right?
What happened? You should get up and avalanche them in real life. Like, what happened?
They are sitting quite close to each other. That is possible.
But yeah, you gotta talk about how BB and certain moments, like Shadowfiend bought back, it kind of also slows down the game for them.
That's maybe to be a bit critical, but alas, BB, they had chances to win this game.
They had great plays on save, on Katomi, Ringmaster.
about him, the tall back throw, all those fights, multiple escape acts, all the little bits and
bobs going throughout, but every time you watch Liquid play one of these longer games, I feel like
I'm watching this man on the screen with his little left heart symbol in front of the Liquid logo,
getting an MVP, because be it a storm, be it a tiny bit, something, he is, yeah, just...
Yeah, when a start line definitely doesn't tell you the full story.
Yeah, well, it's like the thing also, I think that's like the impressive part of some
players like the net worth to impact ratio like the fake says you know the KDA to impact is it's
not normal this is like his impact is like a 10 to 0 gameplay of a guy that didn't die but overall
you know liquid I would even say like in the early game there was the second second rose was
about to spawn keratid finds like a really cool play he gets to kill then they take the second
rose they come back in the game there's like lots of greedy enchantments that lets them
like stall the game and get towards what they want but it just boils down to like late game
Decision-making and if you mess up well you're gonna give away the game you want to talk about the early game
I love it looked cooked right from the get-go like liquid. We're just gonna
You know roll over yeah, that's where you got to give a lot of praise to think boxy and ace right in their lane
They're able to do a lot of stuff even though ace is dying who cares it's boxy utilizing the the firestorm the pit getting the double kill and boxy
You know he watches these die gets the double and then he just keeps finding more moves on the map
I think just the aggression that liquid had in the laning phase
You then have to look towards that 80-minute clip that because we showed at the very start of the highlight package that
Dives there if liquid don't die in that style
This could just be a 30 minute win for living right so a little bit of cleaning up for liquid will probably be the discussion being
Happy to blitz and the gang right now because they're early game the laning and just the impression of boxy
Well, he didn't even first seven minutes was just exceptional
The matchup makes boxy so good like the ability to just be able to extend
And you know, like, I've got a kill.
I get a double kill, but I want more.
I can go and get more.
I'm good enough to do that.
And he has such a good read of the game states
in that early game.
They gave him the last pick of the draft.
I think, you know, sometimes you don't really do that
to the supporters.
No, I can just take the tiny.
I can do my thing, but you know,
sort of like this conversation, Nisha,
it's like, I'm happy with the tiny.
And Voxy goes, I can step up, give me the willow.
You see it in these clubs.
Why?
He's in like every kill at minute six.
He's owning.
It's just the right thing to do.
Now we saw Nisha's stat line.
By the way, I think that was his worst KDA of the tournament and he's still got MVP, but things were looking a bit ropey at minute 20, right, Kess?
No, absolutely, because we talked about it in the game, Liquid had the super good early game, but then you looked later and what I love about this player is that here,
Bibi just had a super cool kill and I loved Nisha's reaction, because whenever this guy, even like TI's back, where I think it was Miki who Laguna bladed, like his forespurt,
I'm dead like that. You know, he always has like his eyebrow eyebrows and familiar with your games. Yeah. No, this is I love this guy.
I think to know the niche of death there, I feel like we have seen if you were to also look at 20 to 30 minutes, there was multiple times a tiny animal who had died for liquid because they were so aggressive.
At some points, baby would kill them and then they would go, Oh, thank you so much. Yeah.
Like killing Nisha or Boxy gave time for BB to kind of get online.
So another point maybe Liquid could look towards, because we love the aggression from them.
But in this game, it was like, it also was kind of the route back for BB to make this game
like a 70, 80 minute beautiful barn burner.
That's true. And I also like, I love, I would say the confidence.
Like the one play that Kiritage went for, to like get the return and then you do get the second rose.
There's like other games or other teams where if you see that happen and they have a sentry and he dies.
Everyone goes like, oh, this stupid carry, why does he do this play?
But without this play, you know, maybe it's just clean for liquid to get the second road
So you know you at the end of the tournament do your thing now
It's a 70 minute game talk it off in between you know now and before the next game starts
What do you want to change come in clean and go play all right? Thanks a lot gentlemen
We must take a break, but the games just keep delivering at PGL Valhalla here, so we know you'll be back see in a moment
I need a windbreaker on me when I push base.
Can you take the camera?
Yes, I'm standing here.
I'm flashing.
Can we play this?
Yes, I'll barricade.
I'll barricade, guys.
I need a wind waker on me when I push base.
I'm not a wind waker.
We should follow this.
Do we have a bigger base?
I think we should focus on the left.
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Welcome back, Liquid are up against Bet Boom in this series and we have had some great
games at PGL Valhalla here but that wasn't what we were calling it on day one, we were
calling it PGL Warlockia because we're super funny and also we happen to have the world's
leading Warlock expert and in that game which had a Warlock image you know is something strange
occurred to you. I wanted to open the discussion to the floor about level 25 talents and supports
which never really happened right so in this game Tofu went for the left talent which is the
plus four fatal bonds and people might go why are you doing this maybe he missed it because
the other one has always been the broken one when you die spawn golem but I was thinking
when the game progresses more creep spawn after 45 minutes you have like
8 units in the creep wave. Of course, when Siege comes down the line, it'll be like 10 creeps.
So is there an argument from Tofu that having the additional 4 fatal bonds allows them just to
shove the waves, play the macro game? He thinks he's positioning with the refresher,
he doesn't actually need more golems, and that kind of play, but it's something I've not seen
for a player yet. I've never seen the left-hand taken, but if the macro game's strong enough,
maybe there's an argument, but you haven't seen it either. Like maybe also, like I was thinking
Maybe there's forge spirits and it's dad or it's like that they're always fighting in creep waves
Or he's like yo, let's fight them like around. I don't know jungle camps even you know
Like there's like more stuff to bond to or whether it's the lane creeps
I think it's interesting because even with the goal that you could be okay
You have refresher you drop your first goal you drop your second and you're like well guys
I'm blinking in there. I'm making use of my summon golem on Beth, but you know it something different again
It's right because I asked the game progresses. You do get more creeps running down the lane
right at 15 minutes you get one and then 30 and it scales into the game so it does make sense to to think about how do I do with more creeps coming at you but yeah just
I mean I will say this uh it is possibly a misclick though right oh there is potentially there is a potential
I know pro players don't misclick ever for everyone at home mistakes do happen for you know all the
no that's not true really told me that's not true but but yeah I would love to think it's not a misclick
Based on the logic of just scaling creep waves?
I think Tofu has too much aura to make it.
Yeah, I'll tend to agree.
No, he would never miss click.
Yeah, but it is interesting.
Obviously, we've seen the golems do so much work
and it really just show you like the conceptually level
these players are on, right?
They're analyzing game states in real time.
That was a 76-minute barn burner.
And it's like, well, how can we get the edge?
We're 22k gold down.
You know, I'll hit my level 25.
Maybe I'm going to do something a little bit different.
But what you've just described is what makes like the true test of a Dota player because nowadays Dota is like
If you've got Hymer Mar if you can play your here as well, and you know the early game
You follow the script right at 20 minutes the tormentor all this stuff like you can easily win a Dota game following like
The Dota playbook. It's not like each team has like this hidden little thing like old-school Dota
But once you get to 70 minutes
There is no playbook anymore when you get to 50 minutes 60 minutes
you have to play on the ideas.
Like, am I using an illusion rune to bait out a spell,
but I'll solo quest it and glimmer it
and I'll deal with stuff.
Am I throwing creeps on a cliff to give pseudo vision?
Like, these are the things that elevate a player
from being, you know, just a normal guy
to winning tournaments.
And again, that's not in any way
relation to a 25 talent.
I'm a little bit of a tangent, but no, I love seeing.
I just love seeing, like, the small things from players.
And you have to keep thinking.
Like, leaving a titan turn on a cliff.
Other teams would kill him, they want the free gold, haha, I'm rich, leaving on the cliff, objectively, you'd never want to take a guy down from the cliff, it's game breaking, a guy being stuck, always leave him there if you can't.
It's just the beauty of, I think, Dota and like things that you don't usually see and people actually focusing on the situation they're in as opposed to haha, half free kill, take free kill, but like, think towards the next step.
I do want to cycle back to the last game for a moment because I think the Liquid, they looked very vulnerable in the game.
They had a good early game, they had a pretty good mid game, but they did let go.
I think Nisha, while he was the MVP, he had a lot of botched initiations over where he got caught on the sidelines.
And similarly for BB, so you played this last game, you had the Invoker into the Tiny.
It worked out to what the latest edges of the game, but if you want to fight them more early on,
I wouldn't mind seeing them do a little swap up, having GPK on a more aggressive hero.
I think that's generally when he has to look better, you know.
He's played his Necro, he's played his Huskars, he now played his Invoker.
Of course he can play all these heroes, but I personally would prefer like this stylistic choice a bit more where
you match Liquid with what you can do, but at least when it comes to the bands
don't give them the TA anymore and now let's see what happens.
BV also just had very great greedy calls, right?
We were talking about how us, there might be too greedy for them if they put SF mid.
They then pick an Invoker mid and have SF Invoker centaur,
note map playing heroes, all farm economy based heroes.
So if you lose your lanes, your game is going to be a comeback game, right?
So that is one thing to note.
Maybe BB adds one element of map play through a core because losing your lanes,
it's something that BB doesn't do often.
Supports being lost on the map, it doesn't happen often for them.
Like, we had that little flow chart.
We talked about which box to break.
Liquid broke the first box.
There was no more flow.
It was just, boom, your game is shot.
You are waiting for the liquid mistake.
Which, again, did happen.
And Liquid, they promote Tiny all the way to first pick.
And yet for mine people we still haven't lost exactly because you have my mind I truly did it's what is it now 7 and 0
Yeah, because it's like you could first pick your bad right here
But also if we looked at seven and zero like with what like with what we've seen like they
Destroyed bad writer when they played against it and like I think their last five or six series
So it's fine
You don't need to first pick bad just because other teams are doing it
Oh because you went into this tournament saying these are the top five things change every day
It can be one idea one pick one game you played
So I like what liquid well I can actually check in with tea on this because I haven't had your opinion yet
But obviously we've seen if the Batrider is taken Oracle has emerged as the counter
It's also emerging is just a meta pick in general because of the ability of the clever audience helping you with the room spawn
What have you made of it here in the lack here?
Yeah, I like Oracle, but because of how weak the laning is I need to see the TA carry or a gyro carry
You're like I need I need to see the safe lane not need a support in the lane
Yeah, and then I'm like yeah cool Oracle complain and I think
Let's say this was in day three of the tournament
I'd be worried the other teams would copy it and they would just lose the game very quickly
But in the hands of liquid if the draft does construct itself the Oracle can survive the lane then of course
They're gonna want to pick it. It's a no-brainer. I
Like this a lot from liquid because I think also if you're BB in the last game like
T talk about you know, you had the SF and then they they weren't happy to put SF mid on an 18 pick to pick an Ursa
So I think there was a high chance at this time around, you know, BB, they're like,
we're going to take out the SS, let's just create this scenario where our mid pick doesn't need to be
flexed around. We can just pick the Ursa with the Warlock like they have done before, and we've
looked at Ace's hero pool, they all get owned by the bear. So now Liquid, they take it out,
so looking at the next phase, you know, whether it's a Tide or an Underlord or all these
heroes that Ace has played, they're all very good against Warlock, so he won't really care.
Now, it's too late, of course, but is there a world where BB's prep could have just been
we nine picked the bear. No matter what, if they pick tiny pick whatever, we just pick the Ursa,
or just see that's too much of a reaction to trying to count the ace. Because to me, I'm looking at
TA's gone, Ursa's gone, or last game, TA was picked Ursa ban, now TA and Ursa are banned,
but when I when I see break in liquid, I am looking at through the safe lane, and maybe the
win range was an option, just, but you're not inviting sentos and stuff. Yeah, I think
you're, there's very high chance you're getting sento here, there's then at least the thing
that happened yesterday where when Spirit played they're like okay you were doing this I'm gonna
put my Windranger on a support roll which could happen here because I do think at least when you
are picking it out of phase like this you should be ready to flex the Windranger unless you're like
okay well if they send to our Tiny I'm gonna have a good lane maybe he's annoying later and you
just play your game like this. That boom is first Windranger game as well. I know that Puritage
can play this he's incredibly good like on the range carry so I would say he is
Like one of the specialists when it does come to this.
Yep, they do get the Centaur.
Okay, so they're going to pick Warlock, so I was going to talk about Tusk,
but then you'd have to change the lane setups.
So I think, like, is there a way that you can just really try and kill the Centaur multiple times, but...
Yeah, Liquid just, every pick is no surprise to it.
Right?
Yeah.
The tiny shore based on the stats, it makes sense.
You see Windranger, you pick Centaur.
There it is.
You know, I at least like the idea that you go for a swap, like...
Because I'm not loving the idea that you pick Windranger 13, your band is Batrider and then you play into a center and you're just leaving it.
Do you remember where Kurtitsch was on our...
...tail list?
I think a B or C.
I'll be honest, maybe he even wasn't on it.
He definitely wasn't on the one that I made first.
Yeah, there we go.
The first one we missed a couple, but he was on the other one. He was like a B or C.
Okay.
Well, with this, I would like more. There are quite a lot, I think, for Liquid.
I think when I'm looking at Kez and Slaughter, that's overall pretty good.
pretty good. There's also a chance they just use it for their mid-pick, which let me see
what could that be. Storm potentially, they love their puck, but I think BB are very happy
to play Sada into the puck, so the flex is kind of cool for them as well with this double
pick.
There can also be a bit of a damage problem with puck, where you're kind of waiting
for other things to happen, like Sada, they're ready to group up and puck, it's
like, ah, can't deal with all of them. For BB, their lineup is very scary conceptually,
of the fact that like Sada will amp the Windranger, he'll amp the Kez, of course Windranger in a support position.
You can still do damage if you're with a Sada, right?
And yeah, I think the lineup's very good, but it gets broken apart so easily if you don't fight correctly.
Like a skirmish lineup, you make a couple mistakes, you'll feel like,
if you don't get Roshan with the lineup as well, that's like, you need the Aegis on Kez to go crazy,
you need to fight pre-crims, and it's a lot of like timing that BB needs to play for.
I mean, at the same time, like if I look at, because we saw it yesterday where you pick the support,
the support or like the core at the moment the bat right at the wind ranger
then they get flexed around it looked kind of poor yesterday like you know when
spirit did it it didn't really work out when I look at the wind ranger 4 here
like it's fine but it's wind ranger 4 it's just a follow-up here like let
someone go in you have this done you do some power shod you know you get your
shard later it's like who cool you can build whatever items you want it's
not a ring master that we saw in the last game and save did a lot doing the
same job as you did in this game like with wind ranger now is near
impossible I kind of like where liquids go with this you know go for the monkey king of course a hero again stats
Don't look too good for it for you know for my king
But the way that you want to play against keds is having lots of cheap stuns be aggressive on the map
Like he's a very greedy carry right it's battle fury into mantis and butterflies
It's desolator into then maybe an axe maybe a BKB
It's so much economy that you need Mikkei was that with it as well in that stamp there it is and now liquid
You've got Avalanche, you've got Stomp, you have Ice Path, you've got Bound of Strike,
you even have Stampede to disengage if Kes does look onto a hero.
You know what, guys?
Let's just walk away for two, three seconds, stand, turn around, then take the fight.
It's only liquid that they have all the answers to a Kes in regards to early fight.
Yeah.
I would also like, because we're talking about the item build, like yesterday it
was Yatoro who had a very good Kes game.
I would just prefer to see the Deso and like play aggressive, you have Slardar
like kind of…
Relates to tees point that he made earlier where it was like the cookie cutter approach to cares was people were prioritizing the safe farm build
With the battle fury. I think now definitively we can say that's not the way to go
Yeah, it's also like in this game like minus armor is so freaking good
You have wind ranger this hero wants to fight in skirmish same with warlock slaughter can also amplify what you want to do
Centaur is not good against minus armor, so it's already slaughter. It's a potential desolator as well
I mean I'm looking at what BB are doing when it comes to the bands like banding co-op
I feel like they're trying to give themselves an easier chance to put this log or mid to potentially pick a new off laner if they did
Want to we have seen some of you know
There's some viper matches that you can do which overall I think if there's a team that can play into it
It is liquid make it. He's a specialist on this hero
Like argue that him in overall crystallis are probably the best monkey Kings that we have in the other two right now
So, you know while it is an option. I think they're not too afraid of playing into it
I'm trying to think where Liquid goes this as well right because do you want to put the
tiny mid again?
Is there a new boxy hero?
And they go for Tinker.
Okay, so it's going to be a new mid hero.
Whenever I see Tinker, I'm always afraid when the enemy has no way to progress towers.
That's my personal read to is it a good Tinker game.
Because Tinker with blink aggs, blink shevers, blink whatever class and you're always
going to be able to take over fights.
In BB they have no time progression outside of Warlock getting early Grimoire and Gollum
and playing on catapult waves and that alone is like, Nisha will be ready and we've already
prayed liquid scourmishing for their heroes, they have plenty of stuns and ways to kind
of create a frontline for Tinker to shine and then they go for an invoker on the last
fixer, GPK trying to run it back and so they're kind of using the enemy's greed
for their own greed because invoker again he doesn't really stop Tinker, I don't
you like fully answer him, but you can play off of the sides again, you have a Lackery like
with the Kez and the Amplify which of course is quite good. I will say that I think, I mean both
these heroes have looked very scary in good games and I think respectively it is a good Tinker game,
it is a good Invoker game, but if I pair these two like up against each other, I think Tinker is
more toxic and has looked like the one that can take over games slightly more and I prefer
Liquid's tempo at least to some extent, but for me Ace has looked very rough when he
lanes into kez specifically and I think that will have a very good kez lane so I need to see how liquid
get through this lane because I think while both drafts are very good and incredibly strong there is
volatility there for both of them. I just can't get over the fact that I just loaded up Nisha's
Dota buff. It's like Nisha tinker it's not a combination that I've really thought about
too much but yeah at least on this account again Nisha has played on multiple other accounts
so it's probably a skewed stat but it's only one game but again he has got two or three other
competitive account he's played on. Still, Niche, Tinker, very scary to think about. I am worried for
BV that they're playing on a lot of greed, a lot of items, they're waiting for Liquid to
take a fight that they can outplay them in, and that alone is scary. There's so much kiting, like
Monkey and Tinker, that's such a toxic teamfight if you don't execute them. Yeah, I need Bedbone
to do some really cool things in this game, like, you know, use the early aggression half
disorder, the Monkey King, Kiritage, be active with the Warlord, get some kills, maybe Grimoire,
because I think Nisha, like just him alone on this thinker,
I think this hero can absolutely take over the game.
Alright, we're about to see, but first,
no championship Sunday is complete without Sir Action Slacks.
Absolutely. No championship Sunday would be the same without Liquid Blitz here.
Having a nice little interview.
I like that already. That was already a hype.
Yep.
Take away my power.
Fantastic. Thank you so much for coming in here.
A really interesting draft here, I gotta say, from Bet Boom, they're gonna pull out the
kids.
Now we saw you guys dumpster, Yachtarok kids twice yesterday.
They think that they're better.
I gotta understand this.
You guys really seem like you've got this hero figured out.
Uh, I mean it also like pooped on us one game.
He went 20-1, so.
I don't remember that.
He did.
That's like famously they destroyed us.
Oh no, oh no.
But you guys do have this hero figured out though, right?
I don't know.
It's like, uh, okay think about it like this.
We stopped at one game. We got some fight, but we only have one game left to win
So it's like a 50-50 and those are as good of Oz as I can get. Yeah, that's definitely not the gambler spouse
That's good. Okay. I want to talk to you about your incredible win rate
You guys have a 100% win rate in games past 70 minutes. Can you explain why that is?
I think it becomes very overthrowy and my team plays like a ton of overthrow because it just spells flying everywhere
Nisha said he was just laughing and like cackling while he was just tossing people back and like I think when it gets to that when
You're juggling like eight items that I don't think there's anybody better in the world
Absolutely, okay fantastic. Well, I do have to say though at that point draft doesn't really matter, right?
It's just about gameplay and skill. Yeah
So you would say that what you do doesn't matter. No, it doesn't okay once again you strip my power
Okay, let's talk about the toxicity of tinker here. You're gonna pull out a tinker pick. We haven't seen this in a while
Why this game? I think we are a little bit too beloved right now and people need to hate us and this hero is a sack of shit
So this will bring on all the haters. Okay, fantastic. Well, if you hate team liquid, you're gonna love this game
Let's go in and see how it turns out. Thank you, please
This is
Hating a Tinker and wanting to have the haters show up.
That's a interesting way to go about drafting for a game.
It really is. And it's a very good Tinker game.
Like this last overall pick hasn't really answered the Tinker at all.
Like soft, depending you have tornado, you have some spells that you can throw on top of him.
You can see the Tinker picks overall sitting at 50% win rate.
So, three and three.
Are you pro bring back rockets or you like them how he is?
Oh, the rockets with bounty hunter?
That was really toxic.
Where you have vision of the hero.
Boxie fighting against Katowani.
And he's gonna use Shadow Word for now.
Yeah, usually you don't see this, but Box is putting good amount of right clicks.
Not gonna kill him, but still.
Hero that has zero armor trading against warlock has to feel really good. They know that they can't really play this lane
Fair and square it is kes plus warlock one of the stronger lanes out there
It's a lane that center also doesn't like to play into so they will drag the creepway under the tower and then start to farm up
Looking at all three of these lanes is top Nero now being run out by tofu
Boundless Strike hits from Micke, and that should give Tofu some space to get to Miero.
Probably will be first blood, and Tofu, claiming the life of this Saurd, are now working on safe.
We've seen these Jutiros feel very active and very abusive in lane, and we're seeing that now.
Very good start from Liquid.
But again, ton of pressure, Otto and the Ranger.
He did have Fairy Fire on Flutter, but I guess Miro decided to die.
He thought maybe with the next Liquid Fire he's gonna drop no matter what.
Didn't wanna just use it and lose it.
And look at it to make it.
I think this is the new set that he has been using on Monkey King.
So I think I've seen this one before.
It's like a hour of Monkey.
Yeah, it looks like the Naked Axe set kind of.
It does kind of look like that. The air is definitely giving Sekiro vibes. I don't know.
It feels like it's from something else, but it works for the Monkey King. It's like he's
going to give you a good...
It's a good Monkey Noiser.
Oh, I didn't even recognize it was her.
I like the flex that he's able to accomplish at times in his existence.
But bottom lane, Ace, he's on this Sentar, and again I feel like this hero in the Underworld
the Tide, he really does add quite the percentage into the win percentage for Liquid, anytime
that it's not Mars.
Esha, he by that Sun Strike.
Esha having a really good time and again, I
Hate to harp on points. I've made a thousand times before but Esha best player in the tournament at the moment and he had a
Bad KDA game last game, but he had a lot of impact to win that last one.
Yeah, especially he was the captain. He was pretty much the meme. Look at me
I'm the captain now and he was tossing them in multiple times. There was the last fight where he tossed them in nine times.
So many tosses, but he won't be doing that this time. Now it's gonna be lasers to the face
And he's opening it off nine times
Might be even more annoying boxy getting the career for like what this is a bit of a
Smaller lineup centaur doesn't like to be involved in these early fights. It's pretty much get the levels have the stampede ready
To be some strike off the mark
Miro still gonna be able to survive and Mikkei still now top of the CS as this lane continues.
They're farming really well in multiple lanes. This is a bit of an issue. The only one that's
really struggling is the Centaur, but equivalent with Miro in terms of CS. I still kind of
wondering, because early games we had been seeing Beppu move with numbers and that
usually happens around the six-minute mark. So I'm wondering if Beppu were gonna go back
to that style of play, as they know who saved Tofu and Mikkei combined to get this kill onto
the Windranger.
Mikkei putting a point into Tree Dance to be able to close the gap, and also like his
itemization, Mikkei is one of the few Monkey King players out there that are definitely
considered to be like the best ones out there.
I think him and Crystalist really like to play the hero and play him to insanely
good like utilizing the full potential of the hero.
for the double rate band. You are playing against Lara, you are playing against Windranger meaning
that you are going to get quite a lot of two very cheap items coming out from him. And it's
also good against Kez, like the carry-to-carry matchup. And speaking of Kez, Ben will discuss
about the itemization, saying that this cookie cutter build on Kez works the best, which
I do agree, going for Falcon Blade and then into Deso. But this time around,
I'm sure that you're thinking maybe I need to like if it's going to be another 60-70 minute game
I'm just gonna get a battle fury and maybe taking the team liquid can't really put that much pressure
Onto the towers like having thinker that they don't have that momentum so he can get away with the battle fury
Do you coming out of a game like that sense the pace that both these teams bring it like I think about that 70 minute game
as Mikkei teeps back, primal spring. Miiro caught with a balance strike. There is also a tossed
tofu trying to cut him off at the pass and Miiro just making three heroes chase him.
Avalanche connects. Icepath is there. There's the swithering crush with a dual breath. Miiro
in trouble and will be taken out by tofu who's got all three kills for the side of liquid.
We've seen something similar that Mickey did when he was playing Dragonite the other day
where he got sick of these shenanigans, so he TP's to the tower and immediately they
start to, I think it was the game, just trying to look up the game, but there's fight.
Some numbers.
There it is.
He needs to run away.
That grappling claw to leave and that's going to be a shrine for Ace.
TP over in front of the slaughter, he's gonna grab the other one.
Abelanchim, the toss.
Bit of onton, three heroes as well as the creep wave, but that's a kill for Ace of Jump Bane looking for a Sun Strike.
They are shackled, which means the Sun Strike does miss, but Ace still alive, eventually falling to safe.
At least they get something out of it. Unfortunately for Warlock, he doesn't get the Grimoire stack.
I can about maybe go and end there. Still have observer ward behind the tower, so they have the full vision right now. It's liquid.
He's just showing up to the bottom lane with this early Kaia.
He's pretty far ahead.
We're almost a thousand gold behind and he's just picking up mid and we'll be going into
the helm of the Dominator.
It will be the difference.
It's not going to be the rod of Ato's this time.
Four GPK will be that Meteor Hammer.
So switching off of that control item that he had picked up previously.
But that's because they've got a lot more control this time around.
Yeah, it's more damage. It also amplifies your spells, 10% spell amplification, more tower damage, more mana regen amplification,
an item that is kind of natural for Invoker to buy.
Woxy still sticking around. Thosback to the Hostop.
Yeah, to the Hostop, the double edge.
Shadow Word trying to heal.
Siv gets the shackle and Sunstrike attempts at a Woxy.
Now Land Siv doesn't end up dead. Power shot off the mark.
They do not get that kill on the Windranger or the Tiny between the two teams.
We'll throw that tree, we'll try to stack, and does get that camp stack.
Well, Boxy, usually we don't see tree grabbed from position 4, it's more, I want to max out my abilities,
but if you also want to be stacking two camps at the same time, you kind of need it.
Boxy does have some extra mana to work with, does have Enchanted Mango and a couple of Stick Charges.
that observed were still not removed so they see ace but they don't want to go
for it immediately they go back to farming yeah he's also ready now let's
strike through a breath ice pack see it coming over trying to deter them and well
does his job by TPing in they back out not committing under the sword are but
just pushing them further from the lane and making it easy for this monkey
thinking just like the Templar Assassin game was so far
earlier. He's gonna have a very strong timing. You can feel
the difference as well coming up from the mid lane. Nisha about
to finish off his blink dagger. Not just blink dagger. That's
blink dagger and Kaia 10 minutes in. Jesus. Level 10 and 10
minutes as well. Tinker do be scary. That's what we're
seen a lot of. Already a 2,000 network lead for Liquid, same as we saw in the first game.
Same story being told. This feels as though it's setting us up for another 70 minute
banger.
Meet your hammer? No!
Ice bath connects, GPK eats a laser.
Close the liquid frost in the dual breath.
We'll clean up the creep wave, keep their chew on tower alive,
and that will be Nisha backing up to the tier 2 to farm the camps in the jungle.
Ace doing what he loves doing.
Pulling these creeps off the lane and to him.
Getting himself his own delivery system and farming in this safe area of the map
You have boxy sitting in front of your tower just in case they decide to wrap around you have stampede
So very difficult kills for them to get
and also heritage he is playing
For the battle period instead going for Falcon blade and desolator
Which means that he's not gonna be as active
We saw the insane game something that blitz talked about when they were playing
against the Aame when he popped off completely where he was just hunting them down.
Hero trying to farm but we've talked about this with Slaughter. The struggles you have in farming
when you fall behind like this and he's getting into the jungle. He's taking these stacks, but
Slaughter loses a lot of effectiveness when his early game struggles, right? Yeah
So now it puts Miro in a position where, yeah he's trying to get this Blink Dagger, but it's so far away when it's active, is it even going to feel so good to have that Blink into the crush?
Well they have enough damage to follow it up.
Do you currently have Chaotix offering?
Yeah the game that I was referring to was against Team Spirit, where it was Yatro actually that did pop off Mikkei.
Damage, power shot, can be at the ready and the focus fire on the Micke, they'll drop down the chaotic offering, toss back towards the creep wave, and the Amphifato Bonds is trying to avoid the damage, big power shot comes in and they get the kill to the Monkey King.
They graced him, he wanted to use the ulti and use changing of the guard to get out of the trouble and maybe get the reduced cooldown, reduced the cooldown on boundless strike.
Here comes Nisha, blink forward and a laser, but can't stop him.
They do have Foxy moving forward, but he's got the corrosive haze on him.
He's up a Lotus and Miro's running over, but there's the Apple Edge, has some charges
for a toss on that stick, and Miro jumps in and dies, so now they go to the Power
Shot, the Shappen connects on Nisha as well as Tofu, the jump back in, as Mikke's
back into the fight.
They'll look to get the kill to Katoe, and now they'll find Kerichich.
They'll jump forward for save.
It will be the Ravens' veil to escape.
Sunstrike's gonna be hitting on a mid game, but it won't matter.
It doesn't hit Boxy enough to get the kill there.
Boxy, he was putting the items in the backpack,
but he also did put his boots in the backpack.
Unfortunately, they didn't have enough to chase them down.
They're still gonna smoke Team Liquid.
Like, Miero is really struggling.
We saw this Lordr from the off-lane,
when he's not off to a good start at this year,
attempts to struggle quite a bit throughout the whole game.
Tornado, it's a bit too short.
Story of my life.
And Kiritich, jump in with the Echo Slash Power Shot combination
and the shackles hit on the big A,
but he's inside the Wukong's command
and they're trying to raptor dance,
but just cannot find the footing.
Very nice bait from Tofu.
He comes in, the rest of the team hiding
in the small area, within the trees, and then they come out, and they came into the Fuselblad.
Could be a 14 minute double shrine by the way, I don't believe Liquid have taken their
own shrine yet.
He should about to have this, dang it!
And they cut it off, 10,000 worth.
It's what you said they on I was like, okay, there's he's still super far
But he also did go for Kaia and signs so it does have
Link dagger Kaia Sange and they gone 15 minutes
thousand
net worth ahead of anybody else
It's kind of insane
With Kaia Sange you have mana cost mana loss reduction
And you also have level 10 talent that gives you extra 10% on top of that
So your spells are extremely easy like you have 1200 mana full and your spell highest spell is 100 mana
It's not bad
Tornado flies in boxy nearby can't offer fatal bonds
So get the two of the tofu toss up into the air back towards the golem power shot hits on boxy
And there's the Sun strike with the echo slash balance strike Mickey thinking about joining him
It doesn't have wu Kong's command
Dead or they fall?
As
It's a two thousand never three for liquid and I mean a lot of that is
Singularly on the tank. So it's not like that boomer all too behind
But the problem that they're dealing with is so hard or who's got nothing
This daygones also gonna be very explosive when it comes down to damage. He shows up in a fight right now
Well, it takes away like one third of Kez's HP pool, which is pretty insane.
And we can already see the itemization that they want to be going for.
Something that Tinker is very good at is using this defense matrix.
So we have status resistance, 30%, extra bit of barrier on top of that.
I see save, trying to pick up the Yulcepter.
I see nullifier as well.
In a quick wipe for Kez.
have tornado, but a lot of things that he doesn't like to play into, they are smoking, behind
they want to get ace, jump big crush, sun strike, and the power shot, ace is soaking up
a lot of it, but the grapple claws will stick on, use that focus fire, get the kill onto
ace, who in death pick up that lotus, so liquid unable to react.
the power of the numbers from Bet Boom.
Get the only looking for the solar crest.
But look what they've got this very farmed tinker.
What do you have to do to just pressure Bet Boom
and expand this lead?
They need to find an opening.
They will have two blink daggers eventually.
There is Lotus Orb finished on Ace.
Tiny needs another 1,300 volt to finish it.
Then the fights are gonna become easier
where you have like people jumping in,
we still haven't seen them bring the whole squad
with the Wukong's command, fighting with the Tinker.
And I see Mickey's going for disperser as the first item.
I really like if he commits for it.
It allows you to remove a lot of annoying things,
the spelling sprint, windrun, fatal bonds,
and corrosive haze off of yourself,
annoying stuff, cold snap,
and just gives you that boost speed to maneuver
in the middle of a fight.
This would be definitely the fastest disperser, probably on all of the heroes.
Right.
I think Amar, during the previous Dream League, talked about the only way to play the pango
is to buy disperser on the hero, otherwise it doesn't work.
They're grouped up over mid, both teams.
Nisha not here, but does have the ability to TP in.
Blink, crush, and then Nisha in, but Alva look for the cataclysm, the damage on a bot
so they get the kill there.
Take it about the Lukans, but can't quite get it out.
McRopire laid down on the ground, Lukans commanding out the diffusal in Hibbibhana
GPK.
Not doing much of anything for either team except for that kill out of the tiny.
really fueling the massive impact of tinker disease now he needs people to
lock them down he needs those poundless strike avalanches to connect shackles
stopping them from going for cat to me saves doing a very good job on this win
rangers today
tornado ice wall EMP and this will be all active man a shackle actually
It connects the other way. The look for this invoker.
Crushed off the 3, and they have a 3 hero, save me arrow as well, it's GPK.
They're all dead. Double kill for Ace.
They overextended. These are the exactly the fights that they need.
Fight within the stun so Tinker can come in, recast his abilities,
and immediately they go into the Roche, but they don't have, like, the most Roche on damage,
but it's gonna be enough.
Okay, I'm playing on a different side of the map.
Okay, it's not gonna be here. They can't defend this.
First roosh at 20 minutes could go to or mafter.
It all gonna be here for liquid. It's that 20 timer.
I'll fight win in this area of time always feels like it's a massive power play
It really is and they are bringing out the rune
Ace is gonna grab it maybe thinking because they saw them coming with the watcher
And now you said tormenter potentially or bounties
Eventually available for Liquid as well.
As soon as Mke is committing, he is going all in, upgrading that defusal blade to have disperse already.
Definitely love to have it for the next fight.
Got the only no rock for 30 seconds.
Not committing for the tour.
You should just get it back away and farm some more.
They don't have to take the fight right now because there's three slash four big items that are coming out for Liquid. They're so close to all of them.
Blink Dagger on a Centaur, Shiva's Guard on Tinker, even Blink Dagger on Tiny and Disperser on Monkey King. These are like super costly items.
So right now they are waiting out and then they're going to be able to take the fight afterwards.
Level 18 on Tinker he has
Karidia on top of that I mean this this is just ridiculous network of nature. It's it's getting stupid
This will be short for tofu you're getting access to that short
Just a 4,000 net worth lead but a percentage of 75 from Dota plus to win this game.
Bishop even taking the XP rune on the other side, about to be level 19.
He also has level 3 ulti, so he can TP to friendly heroes as well.
Jesus.
21 minutes into the game, that's basically what bots do, ready to jump in on any kind
of a fight.
Truly a not too staffed to deal with this hero, this final pick, Tinker.
I'm in from the off lane perspective, Moxie.
Can he get the toss back?
I'm left on the TP, turned the TP out of the tiny.
Will show up just to get that last shot in under Kankomi.
Just perspective-wise, you're playing the off lane.
You have one item, it's a blink dagger.
Sure, you have a shard, but you also show up
in a fight and there's Tinker with Sheeva's guard,
Kaya, Sange and Dagon, plus ages.
Like, you really don't want to be fighting into this.
He's getting the Lincolns next, but eventually there's an Aggs in there, right?
Or is it just going to be skipping the Aggs altogether?
Yeah, he's going to get it. Right now he's playing on the other side of the map, holding the Aegis knowing that they can't really kill him twice.
They might not even be able to kill him once and the rest of the team playing on the different side of the map.
So whenever these Blank Dagger initiators decide to jump in, Nisha's going to TP as well.
Just to slow them down because she was going to bring in the damage their tower
damage is lacking that's one of the downsides off liquids line up might be
lacking but their tinker certainly is in and they need to shut this guy down
this tinker has gotten way too much out of the game all that being said yeah
You know he is kind of getting caught by kids
Not like super close, but kids has a good amount of farm and we've seen what this hero can do
It's just as scary, but just in a different way
for sure
You want to be getting the BKB? Maybe then they're gonna be trying to take the fight
Once the Aegis expires because their lineup is still pretty strong. If you land two-man crush or just fatal bonds with cataclysm
It's a lot of teamfights on their side.
Here it is.
Back to dance.
Icebound.
But stuck to rock in a hard place.
You should get that credit for that kill and Kyrgyz is getting caught all up.
Now where you want to be, anytime they can shut down that, Kez is going to be a bigger
split between him and Nisha, which might make the difference to get through this mid-game.
And instead of that Lincoln's, I had to check because he did queue up a new item.
I thought it was going to be in addition to the Lincoln's with the way that he's
been farming, but he's going for Eblaid and then Charter.
It's such a valuable item. You are playing against Slardar. You are playing against Kez.
So before Nullifier, and he also has only one way of dispelling things, if you use it on him, that's Mantis-style.
We'll have two soon with the BKB. Such a valuable item to pick up here.
And he's going to have it, like, basically has it. 25 minutes in.
Every three or four minutes, Tinker has a new big item.
So it has another level.
About to be level 21 in this game.
Kez about to be 18.
There is still a significant split between Invoker, Kez, and the Centaur Monkey King.
Monkey King only at 11,200 net worth.
So not even the most amazing game for the MK so far.
is not the fastest farmer especially if you go for the fusel blade no battle fury no
mouse from slash milner and he was also like not as active maybe and because the
game developed in that direction where you're not snowballing you're not moving
from lane to lane getting the kills so you need to use like into two spells or
as we're seeing right now jump off the trees get a couple of right clicks
Trying to find the strength to fight Mikkei with this spurser, trying to feel like a Spartan,
sitting at 1-1-7.
But, they are pushing bottom, tofu.
The jikiro we've seen this before, just get that liquid fire, and thump, and then you
just go go go, and find some space to farm and push, and that's exactly what he's
doing.
He's got the help of the monkey king nearby if anybody were to jump the jikiro.
So there's not really been an answer from that boom to stop this at all
And it doesn't look like there will be an answer from that boom to stop this
Don't glyph but tofu can stay again just instant liquid fire
There's that tower gone
First of the outer towers on the tier 2 end taken away, but Shackle and the jump in from
Keratich Tornado connects and that'll be a kill in a boxy.
They do kill the tiny ones more and they are searching for anything else that they can get,
when Crush misses. Tinker coming in, pound the strike ice path,
Wukong's command of the BKB is good, pop on the arrow.
So they start to try and back away, power shot doesn't connect on anything,
He blade thrown over onto the windranger.
These heroes on the side of Liquid sticking nearby for a second, but ultimately decide to disengage.
Liquid still respecting the damage that Teamfights, that there is potentially happening for Betboom's team.
All they have to do is land two mancrush, land one good shackle on the two heroes,
and that's going to be the setup for Cataclysm.
They also have a good way to counter initiate the fight with Tornado, with the Rock, and Kez.
He could be done as you said he's like second on the network chart still far away from thinker
These numbers are just insane on Misha, but still a very good amount of farm from Kez
still very far ahead of them
And that's gonna potentially be important is if they do somehow catch this tinker
The game favors that pretty heavily in the fights that would take place am or is it jumps in
Sun and the double-edged TPK, the Shackle connects, they'll get a kill in a boxy once again, they use that stampede for the grappling call, blink, crush, ice pass, auto a couple, but Miro ends up being the trait.
Oh they cut him down, oh they got the monkey king, they have to Shackle to follow it up, and that's going to be a dead mickade.
They'll even look for Nisha as he will e-blade himself and run.
I believe it was the battlefury from Kiritich.
His damage is through the roof, Alacrity amplified damage that he did have in the previous one.
Just a couple of right clicks, 1500 damage almost instantly.
Phil can't keep up with the tanker.
Monkey is out in 20 seconds.
Let's see if Liquid's going to approach this one and maybe try to take the fight.
I don't know it doesn't look like it
It's all got the quickly they're just letting this one go
Got it kind of fighting against this Roche
And
ages banner
Tez 18,000 net worth like this is a really great spot for Tez to be in we see how quickly he could kill these heroes
And every single time they are killing boxy knowing that like maybe they have some
PTSD from the previous game where they got tossed multiple times
Because what tiny tiny right now doesn't have ways of getting out of the fight
So he goes in might use one combo. You need either four staff or you need a yield scepter to reset
But they also need
Low-cooled-down stuns to keep them in place because center
He doesn't feel too comfortable getting close to Kez and just squaring up
Especially during the BKB might be forced to use stampede to try to save himself
He should still yet to die five zero and four
full linkage now completed
Wink Dagger 4, GPK faster than the average blink, come here and look at 4 of the aggs,
he's still struggling for net worth.
We talked about the linkins and that's been picked up for the tinger.
And the idea, at least on the Q, is just shard, Dagen, Dagen, Dagen upgrade.
Pump out as much damage as possible, warp flare is also a spell we don't talk about
too much, reducing like rooting them for two seconds, reducing their cast range and attack
range for two seconds.
Not the most damage.
It's only 150 damage but still cancels the blink dagger if necessary.
Okay, keep shooting that level 20 and they're waiting for this tour to respawn.
More objectives being focused by Bat Boom.
There is that dagger too.
Sharp forget the Omi.
Despite the net worth lead, I feel like I'm favoring Bethelman in my mind, at least in this moment.
The Kez seems very strong, has no fire flying out, and Fokker has a lot of net worth there too, and I don't know if the Tinker can do it alone.
If they take out Tinker in the fight, you are taking out almost 30,000 network out of the fight.
They have a good jump. They have a pretty good jump with Slardar, Windranger.
She can find a way to maybe get the shackle. There is Nullifier available now on Kiritich.
That's why Nisha went for Lincolns. That's why she went for E-Blade.
So, having multiple ways of defending himself with also pushing very close to level 25 as well.
of the
of some of
the thing to follow that up to see it
is still the idea of teachers get a TPO for
the end of choosing to engage
just forming for now
I'm wondering how people are going to use this Aegis as they find themselves in the Tinker.
And that might be the way they disarmed them, they nullified them, and they have killed them.
That's 135 seconds without this Tinker.
Or a minute 35 without this Tinker as they go and find the boxy tiny with it.
And Sardar's the only one dead so far, but Mikkei's not really outputting a lot.
GpK with the BKB, he goes into tofu.
They'll get the kill out of the jacquero,
they'll have to make it a third,
and down goes Mikkei, as they will find four,
maybe even a full team wipe if they can get ace.
GpK is right there, Ravens, Vale,
as well as the Noel Fyre, they've got the ice wall down,
but he goes into the stampede,
and they will use that duel, despite the fact
that he had the Lotus, the Sun Strike will hit,
and that will be a full team wipe for Betboom,
evening up the net worth,
and just completely wiping Team Liquid.
This is what we just said.
They can take out the thinker. He still dealt 3,000 damage, but without him resetting the fight using she was guard multiple times
They gone using the fence matrix and laser. They're not gonna be winning that fight
And this was fight with the ages available
So they jump in first and nullifier doing the trick first of all you get nullified immediately
Coming on from that tornado he played to try to save himself and then a cure a ditch
He decides to go in pretty much go all in with the BKB
Had this tinker that was so far and they just
Have not really used him
In the most aggressive way and I wonder if now they've let 10 just have all too much and back into it
Raptor dance cataclysm lands big a in trouble the null fire is on he's trying to jump away
But he gets tossed by boxy
Instead and he still dies to the case
Tofu next and it is just kill after kill for Kiritich more feeling like kill it itch
Nice and done for BedBoom team. They are understanding that right now as long as they can land like a two-man stun, two-man shackle, they have the Cataclysm to follow it up with, okay, not able to match up with the damage performance that's coming up from Kiritich at this one.
There's Monkey King, got shut down.
We haven't seen them hold them inside of the Vukons command.
They are running away, you have Slardar with the BKB, Invoker and Kez.
So they can easily reset.
They will need some big toss backs.
And Boxy, you can start seeing the way he's thinking.
These items are getting nullified,
so I need to buy an item that cannot be nullified,
going for Shadowblade of his own.
It makes me think back to the disperser, skipping that BKB was...
Or not the BKB, the battle theory was the right move, where you're now kind of lacking
this farm.
You've got disperser BKB and that's it.
Technically the shard too, but I just...
This monkey king can't stand up to these heroes.
He's got 10,000 net worth to the kids.
Yeah, he can't really kill any of the cores. He can't kill Windranger.
Maybe he can find something for Warlock, or they can go for the tossback play into Boundless Strike, into the Hoofstomp,
and then try to make a kill off of that. But it's not an easy one.
I also want to see what he's gonna be building into next, what the next item for Mickey is gonna be,
whether he feels that he needs to get
something along, like maybe he needs...
I mean, there's a couple of options. I think Scotty could be OK-ish.
Jump in, tofu. Not.
Grabbing that ice path, even Stampede getting committed.
Working right onto the warlock, they'll get the kill.
They'll take a ketome.
If Liquid can isolate the targets like that, get a tossback into the thinker,
they are killing the hero, at least getting the BKB out of the system.
Also, don't know if Nisha realizes that this is not the Dagon 5 yet.
So, keeping it at 4.
Five's for later.
Can't be too palatable too quickly.
I don't want to spend the money on the level 5 and throw it elsewhere,
We're saving up 3200 gold because that's gonna be enough currently for the mystic staff, but it'll save up for the entire arcane blink
Not a blink. We've seen too much of these days
Speaking of upgraded blinks carriage has that swift blink once a pump in damage as fast as possible jump in there's daggin five
There it is
You notice
And I lied about him saving up for our Kingfoot now.
He's also level 25, 40 intelligence.
Saving at 3000 mana pool also has Psychicad Bans where he can push the target unit away.
With the Warp Flare, he's gonna have another way of doing that.
Are you always getting 40 intelligence when you're Tinker, or would you ever go to that 200 AOE laser if you had maybe adds?
Ah, maybe if he was playing against some like PL, maybe TV illusions, but it's quite a lot of mana that you need to not go back to base and then come back again.
Right, Gust used Boxy Dead to cure a good of fall afterwards, and now the look for the Monkey King who will use that balance strike to jump away, but the sun strike!
Gotta be careful.
that boom they still do not lose anybody and they're the ones holding on to an
8,000 net worth lead now this case doing it all as well as honestly the invoker
who's got a boatload of far he does he's had a pretty much the perfect game on
invoker landing those sun strikes landing the cataclysms as well and also
They took control of the fight. He was the one who actually caught Taker and then Team Liquid's aggression did stop.
They didn't make any aggressive moves whatsoever. They managed to kill Kata only once, but that's about it.
We see Kez as well. Getting level 25, has BKB in backpack, has refresh a shard.
Since they're killing Kez at 24 minutes, Liquid have only killed Slaughter twice and Warlock twice.
And honestly, it feels like they've just been lacking the aggression from a hero that
had so much net worth ahead of the other team.
5,000 gold saved up for Nisha.
Holding onto what he can and sees the one farming the most, of course, in the game and on the
team but now see Tannick for kids that's a that's gonna be a big issue massive
issue and also refresher on Invoker so potentially double cataclysm with
octurane core lowering the cooldown of the abilities make a optical for basher
and wants to get full abyssal blade like we've seen the play that they did in
in the previous game with Tiny onto Underlord with the Bissell, seems like that's their game
plan for now.
So he'll toss somebody in, get the Abyssal Blade, get to Wukong's command, try to hold
him in so the Tinker can deal the damage.
Tinkers, he's gonna get 5000 gold, but in theory he can't get too much bigger.
There's a couple of upgrades that he can still do, sure, your Blink can be upgraded,
the Agonim Scepter as well, pick up the Shard, but you also gotta worry how
much of the farm he's staking.
sitting at 35,000 net worth which means the threat to the team is not getting that much
farm you see where boxy is only 7,000 from him.
Just feels though that boom have a insurmountable lead and GBK is going to go top.
Problem currently is just getting up out of the high ground.
They are circling expecting the tinker to be in this area as you see the march of
the machines pouring into the tier 3 area and into the lane.
GPK will search, not find anything, there are a couple heroes in the area to help out,
but Ace the only one out there.
Monkey King continues to farm bottom, but Nisha doesn't have to leave the high ground
although he elects to do so.
Nobody from Bed Boom ready this time.
Here's what you can see, queued up is that full axe blessing.
A little worried about scaling for Liquid, you have this insanely farm tanker, Centaur
doesn't really deal damage, he's more about the saving tool, so he needs to save either
Tinker or he needs to save Monkey King and supports on Liquid, not having that good
of a time.
That's right on the side, trying to scout out the monkey king.
Okay, it needs to go back.
That boom.
Been placed in between where the tier 2s once stood for Liquid and the high round.
Have not really packed up from that point with this Aegis.
Now they're going to go and jump on the Vickay.
They're trying to get the kill, but now they've found a case.
Can they get the two kills out of this hero and meaning to really turn this game around?
They'll parry BKB and run away and heal us up back to full.
Eats the cheese, gives out a little bit of a burp.
In doing so.
As long as they can get these toss backs and finally Boxy finds the secondary item.
He was saving it for a buyback, now with the Shadowblade ready.
And it's going to be much easier for him to reset or find the targets to go for.
Yeah, they got that kill to the invoker wall that was going on and, you know,
You know, Kez gets out and he gets healed up, but you're without your invoker for 70 seconds.
And he's a lot of your damage.
Those cataclysm have been on point. He's a good amount of your control there, too.
But no buyback, it does leave this moment for Liquid to just kinda push out a little
and feel some alleviation from this pressure
where invoker can't hurt you in these moments.
And now they're on the hunt, 45 seconds.
Still fighting into Aegis, which is going to expire in 30 seconds.
Battle is strike, Katoami, throwing in the cannon.
Golf rate, Misha.
He's nearby, throws a laser, hits Katoami,
and now they might find themselves another one.
And save the Z, and it's surrounded and killed.
Misha's got a double kill.
Get some more gold with this goal.
Foxy's on the hunt again, on the side.
They're not done yet.
And then the Blazary and Misha helping to get this kill out of the Sardar and Liquid all over the map to get a fourth hero.
And they have really recovered within those few minutes.
For me, Tiny is the hero of the tournament. Like, he's sitting at some 50% win rate, but he's making all these plays happen.
He's got his things out and them getting the jump knowing that it won't hurt
He can't come into this fight that another good toss back into avalanche from boxy this time around
Asia still
Holding up liquid making sure that they don't leave this game lost
Stampede committed Ravensdale avalanche missing BKB GP K cataclysm thrown
but not doing the damage needed. Now they can start to hunt people down. Shadowblade,
anchor TP is in. Let's see how big Nisha can still get. This Eblade, arcane blink,
pretty much six-slotted with the shard, can still upgrade his agatom scepter sitting at 6,000 gold.
tornado lands but no follow-up nobody near
oh caretich spotted how much toss BKB null fire on this tiny raven's failing but
trying to survive they've got the abyss of the go to the wucocks can they
gonna caretich he's in trouble there's the workhorse throwing the tiny in the
cart it's heavy but he can get away with it
Heist path connects on the wind ranger and now Nisha, he's pretty far forward. They don't get the kill on that head.
They've got the lock down to switherto crush as well as the shackle that locks up Nisha.
He's gonna be healed up a little bit, but still surviving.
Cataclysm.
Oh no, not gonna be on the mark.
They jump back deep in the arrow with the crush and they've got the lock down on Nisha once again
with Ken's right in his face to get the kill to the tinker.
They take Nisha's life.
Nisha's coming back.
He's killed two and they're gonna buy back on Nisha who come back as he jumps forward.
He said that he'd better get the kill, to tell me if they get the shackles to land on, they sent Tar.
Can they get more of this?
There's two buybacks, one very expensive one without Tinker.
Their high ground defense is also not going to be as good.
They taught maybe with the boxy buyback, but nothing to really TP to, so he had to TP to an outpost,
took him a really long time to come back into the fight.
Tisha still life stealing a lot, healing himself with Dagon.
Now off to the high ground they go.
High ground they go. Wukong's command ready in 15 seconds.
Torino. Splits the seams.
Two or three tower bottom, starting to lower down as they don't want to buy back on these heroes just yet.
Reoccurring theme.
Ace needs to take care of Tinker in the next fight. He can't let him die.
Workhorse is ready.
Okay, onto the high ground, gets the tower, down the strike, not ready, no BKB, Mark, puts him in.
Meteor leaves on top of him while he's in the cart, SUCK STRIKELY!
Thinking that they have the damage there to get the kill.
I believe, shared between him.
And...
Two tinker towards the top, most of the team goes back to base.
Oxy Tofu, they'll take the outpost.
These heroes now, Bet Boom, experiencing what Liquid felt for a good while being stuck in
the base, but they are more so willing to leave with this smoke knowing that if they
kill Anisha again, they take out the host farm hero on Liquid and have a massive advantage.
They have the only walking up in the high ground, those the ob-century combo play
They get the slither across, they go to the BKB, they've got the Tars back, and now can they get these kills?
The Theto-Bots have three heroes, they get the Kodobox, they get O for the Cataclysm, but again, with the damage.
Still lacking a little bit, as Ace is going to be able to work horse away, they use that Abyssal, they've got the control, it's on the save,
but Heritage fights back and kills off Miki, who has no buyback!
They're going to find that Jikiro Raymintzel is there, he goes onto the Lotus Centaur,
and it's actually Jikiro blinking away while Ace ends up dead.
Shockingly, the jikiro makes it out after the yules, but they kill three heroes who don't have buyback at all.
I like that jikiro is jumping sentar in the fight. He knows that he needs to make him feel uncomfortable,
trying to force the workforce to save himself or to stamp feed, and then they can focus the rest.
He knows that Jikiro is going to be keeping the distance. Jikiro now with the Aegis.
MacroPyre, they drop it down immediately off-sentry, coming off from one of the BedBoom supports,
and they were not fight ready instantly. There is no Vukong's command that is gonna be, like,
shunning them out, so make it try to square up against these heroes, and you can see the damage.
What we want at the moment with this network deficit, he can't really stand a chance.
I have a shot there.
Chikiro got out on that.
I think you get three heroes you don't have buyback.
They have nothing to hold, macro fired down on the middle lane, but there's a banner there.
Unfortunately, you know, even though the banner's being held up by wood, that fire doesn't burn it down.
Nice path. Chikiro, Eblade saved for the moment.
But the power shot, they still want to go in and...
Take your time to defend as best he can but they lose this mid set of racks.
They have another banner. The arrow has one.
From the third roche.
Now Nisha looking for the Hakkinen's Blessing.
Yeah, he's gonna buy it out. No buyback available on him, level 28.
Let's see how they deal with this laser. We have not...
the
scene of full long fights where it feels like
Tinker sticks in the pocket with them
and now that they were three between Tinker and Kez is only 3000
as Kez is out of control
Even though he didn't have the greatest start, all he has to do is get the good link initiation,
maybe get the nullifier now, provide some extra bit of damage amp with corrosive haze, and
as well take care of the rest.
Do that boom choose, just smoke and go through, potentially mid to make that jump.
Looks like that's the idea.
on Liquid, they're actually not the base. Most of them sitting elsewhere.
Might be able to kill off base. They dropped down the Chaotic Offering with the axe, so that's two golds.
Blinks when they're crushed coming through, but Box is going to try and react.
They've got the tosses, as well as the macro fire. Here's the meteors, as well as the death.
What's the... it's everybody pushing them away! Cataclysm's flying in!
There's the damage. It's okay, but not the arrow. They got the kill on the arrow. They'll look over and make a...
We're still within this Wukong. This man and kid is going to be stuck in it.
It's on the macro fire, it's on the ice, and they get the inches out of his hands.
They'll refresh on the chaotic offering that's going to be two more golems that are eight on the side
from a bit moving towards Liquid.
Toss back and forth, Keratich going the other way, a bit of a curveball that came out from the tidy.
The Tiffany Flash once again, they go to the catacombs one more time,
they get the kill in the box, they find themselves the cats, they jump over to kill all Keratich.
They'll get the top of the warlock, they're right on top of him, right where the banner stands,
but that's where his body falls.
Four golems, they get a bottom set of racks, Tofu has to get away from all these golems,
and they look over as they'll start to clean them up as they set towards top.
Golems are so difficult to kill. They have 33% magical resistance and 46% physical.
And they also have that 20 talent from Warlock, 25 damage resistance.
So it's very, very difficult to kill. Double gem, I believe.
They have been picked up by liquid members.
One is still on the ground. Tofu will get it to the end.
The Fackapire did a lot in that previous fight.
Yeah, Kess was stuck within Makropire, the ice path.
And just, there was that weird interaction.
He got like tossed back, even deeper into the base,
but curves back out.
It was like grappling claw at the same time, or something of the sort.
Or warp flair or something. I don't know, it's kind of weird.
He still died anyway, so it didn't end up mattering.
But now, Nisha 50,000 that we've got.
He's giving Retaliate aura, yeah.
Yeah, that's 50.
I like that he went for Retaliate aura and Retaliate damage, showing that he wants to
be able to, because there's a good amount of right clicks coming out from this Larder
from Kaz as well, but he doesn't have Satanic Freddie.
It's gonna be a lot of damage return.
Aisha wants Agh's Blessing. He's got 10,000 gold, but he's holding a bottle and a Kaisanj in the backpack.
He'll pop the VKB when necessary and then swap Kaisanj in.
Tofu needs to be careful. Radiant actually gets the Tormentor kill.
Oh.
TPK getting tipped.
This is what happens when you are trying to take the Tormentor while being in the melee range.
It shouldn't happen a couple of times. TPK.
It's a cool steal.
Yeah, his gameplay so far has been on point.
I mean, the previous fight, he really popped off dealing 10,000 damage, controlling everything.
Double Cataclysm, double Hex as well with the double BKB.
Cataclysm's aren't exactly nailing their targets, but...
Now, they need Miero or they need Shackles to come.
Yes.
But it does force them to kind of move potentially in a bad position,
which in itself, if it pushes you closer towards the kez, and now you're out of position, it's fine.
I'll take him on for a moment, thinker, just hit level 30, AOE laser and Agatom scepter.
My favorite kind of moment.
Also, you don't thinker.
Though he can still get bigger, you know, by maybe a moonshard.
Not for himself, but for Monkey King.
By refresher.
That's good to say.
Cataclysm drops down.
Just to get that second BKB with the refresher.
Otherwise, this is it. You're maxed out
Yeah, there's nothing more to he can swap in hex as well. He did sell thai Assange
Decided to keep the BKB which is on relatively short cooldown 38 second cooldown only can't rebuy and refresh
Not how that works
On the BKB back in the days you could
Back in the days, I think it was
KS Yamate who kind of invented this stuff where you he was playing tinker and he was selling all the items
He was buying all the small items saving for a boot just travel back in the days of tinker
Which was the key item on the hero so that he was not losing gold at the time boxy
Thinking about maybe going in
Either will jump cataclysm again
And it's
Cataclysm
With the shard which this isn't really important, but if it does damage
You get a forge spirit of the current level created in the location that could be 10 forge spirits
It could be that which is a lot
It's more about providing vision afterwards and canceling the blink daggers, but sometimes you will see like
5 7 10 if they're stuck inside of the chronosphere, and then you just go in and then you push
But we've also seen a good amount of cataclysms being used with Dr. Incorp just to scout things out.
Sure, because you have two of them and you want to see where they're moving.
In case you think they're smoked up, you're going to notice that.
So you're talking about the old days.
Was it just boots of travel? Is all you needed?
Pretty much.
And then you could play the map.
was the hardest thing to get into. Once you get the boots of travel, you're fine.
Was it a build created by Yamate? Yeah, I don't know. It was the one, I think he was
the one who invented the selling the items to get to your boots of travel and then at
the time you could also resell your BKB and buy a 10 second BKB at the time. Maybe
even 12, can't remember. It was 10 second BKB for a long time, but maybe back in
days it was even longer. We just got to get you a rocking chair to all these old stories of Dota 2
or Dota. That was Dota 1. Yeah, I was gonna say. We'll have you read them from an old scripture.
Both teams close by, tense moments. Overwhelming blink for GPK who's towards the front.
His forge spirit's trying to sniff out the side of Liquid, but I do actually have
of their kez nearby. Everybody is here for both teams, but neither team willing to make
that initial jump with Roche being available inside the pit. Buyback's available for everybody
in this game. Those feel as though we're kind of heading towards that 60 minute barn burner
again. We talked about it in the beginning of the game. I was like, do you really
expected to be a 60 minute game again. What did I say? It was so long ago. It was so long
ago that dinosaurs still roam the Earth and I forget who you said it about but they were
just basically getting ready for a 60 minute game again. I almost want to say it was
the monkey king you were talking about.
Somebody in some chat somewhere, we'll remember.
Monkey hit level 25, so extra Wukong ring.
Gotta be pretty big to fight into this, and as you said, 10 heroes with buybacks available,
but you're also fighting into how many banners do they have?
They have two banners, cheese refresher, and ages.
We need a banner upgrade.
Three banners forming into something.
I said it.
Three banners and the cheese.
You get the healing aura around them and get the bigger AoE.
Plant the banner near your tier one tower and end the game.
Creeps can't die.
Just kidding.
But maybe something with the healing.
Foxy looking for an opening sentry and ops down for cut filmy or spirits ready to go for the high ground
Today tornado boxy and avalanche close the toss back move the damage on a boxy instead of either the wukong to the extra
Okay, he's dead. Okay, they'll finish him off. He's dead for a hundred seconds
There's two golems thinking about going in but each is here to defend the base. They've also got the gem of the deck
GPK who's had a clean game bus far ends up dead so quickly
Liquid able to defend after losing their time.
Belflux is also doing a lot of work in these fights.
These macro players with Agatheum Scepter are doing insane amount of damage and he
also has 6,000 gold saved up.
Double gem on the courier.
Still another gold, I'm hitting on Ace.
you're sticking it a little bit nearby.
I was gonna say, my banner upgrade, you have three banners, you put them on a catapult,
and it becomes a trebuchet that can hit from further, has a lot more health, so you can
siege from further.
I've heard a number of ideas coming up from you, but this is not actually bad.
I like it, I like it.
Let's go IceRog, implement one of my ideas, I'd be so happy, so proud.
It's not a stupid one, please, that I've said.
And then you can throw in like pink corpses,
like in the medieval times where you're seaching.
And then they start to-
You can choose to jump in as a hero,
and it'll throw you into the base.
Then you start losing the HP you can't regenerate.
There's the plague.
Akira starting to scale.
Blink Dagger, Agathem Scepter 4 staff, 7,000 gold.
Turn over to your fives again.
Back to back games with tier fives.
And this is the question I had in the last game.
How many 60 minute games goes 70 minutes?
And there was that statistic about Liquid being very, very good at 70-minute games.
Think undefeated in 70-minute games or something of the sort.
So far at Hulakia, they had one against Heroic, which they did win.
It was a 79-minute game.
And then this one against Betboom, also a 76-minute game.
game. All they have to do is push it into the 70 minute territory.
Double Minotaur horn for Betboom on Kiritigimiero with the Stygian Desolator on Save.
Save is scaling. Save is also realizing that he needs to be the one dealing the damage.
Opted to go for a BKB after three support items and then also got Tatalus. So he can
could also be the one sieging the high ground if they feel like they need to kill the tower.
Sun strike for now.
And two jazooomblode, right?
One for GPK, one for Kethomii.
Battleless Book of the Dead for the Tinker.
That's going to be the extra attack and cast range.
Battleless for Mickei there too.
Fallen Sky.
Three books of the dead and one...spider legs.
Ooh, Adelaide just tossed back into the base.
The battle strike is there!
They want to get the kegs, and they got the first life out of his hands immediately.
Take a 10 meter as well as the Jibik's.
Half-H mid, he's dying some month, Wolfcrum.
And they'll look to get Ketmomi as they'll take out the Warlock.
They got the kill there.
Kiera with the BKB, the batter's very far back.
Foxy fights the Abilites, he's gonna be out of heritage.
Miki going in with the abyss away as well as the BKB.
He's got the control of the damage from Heritage!
Takes out Miki!
He takes the Monkey King away from the fight!
Who's got my back!
The crossback from Foxy.
He need to be careful, Heritage healing up with the BKB once again.
The damage on the boxy chipping him down, chisel him in and nothing.
They get a kill and a two. They don't buy back on the side of Liquid.
They have no E-Aero. They have no sword up at the blink forward. Look for more.
They've got themselves Nisha moving forward, but they lose Tofus,
save getting the damage out, and three heroes on Liquid have buyback.
Will they use them? Everybody in this game but the Warlock who already bought back,
still has their buyback.
Man, what is this abomination of the hero? This case goes in and almost like three shots
The centaur immediately the damage starts to stack up a lacquerty onto the golems with damage reduction
They plant to the banner as well there
Is the pie back from the tiny workhorse to get the extra stampede speed, but he is slowed up anyway
Still gets up under the high ground and survives
The high ground defense is there they have multiple necro books as you said thinkers necro book or book of the dead is
32nd cooldown only
That's pretty good pretty neat
Yeah, strange upgrade for Tofu with the balance spider legs, so he'll have that when he's up with the macro pyre.
Not committing the buybacks on the Monkey King or the Jikiro.
Buybacks definitely the theme of this series thus far.
far.
Boxid doesn't have his, it's definitely a buyback that they kind of need to have or
he needs to have a BKB so that he can get nullified once he goes in.
Jumpy says.
Save for the BKB and the Stitchy and Desolator.
All he wants is to focus on these buildings, but instead, he'll find himself saved, they'll
get the toss back, they get the kill there under the windranger, now they can own for
carriageage.
Carriageage needs to be very careful, he's got the cheese, he's got nothing, he's
got nothing, there's a way to follow it up.
Can he get a safe bandit?
He's starting to parry, he's starting to fight back, Mika is in trouble with
the cat because if I get it, it's going to do a little bit of damage, but
He's trying to wrap it in, but he's standing up again with the avalanche and tossing him up into the air.
He eats the cheese, he's surviving for now, he eats everybody on the side of Liquid in the face of this case, and they get the kill to Heritage.
He tried to fight back, tried to overplay his hand, and he falls out and folds.
Still showing that this hero can do so much. It's such an insane amount of damage, but again, the tossback.
This is the best ability to go to Magnus right now, not being a hero.
Seems like this is the hero in Dota right now to be winning the games off.
No matter how bad of a situation you're in,
one tossback into the Wukong's command, into the boundless strike, any kind of a stun.
A is going to do the trick, and it seems like Mikkei is also having an MKB.
Yep, getting delivered on the courier, so the matchup is going to be better for him.
His own king bar against butterfly on kez who is level 30 is gonna be big and now liquid starts to push with these books of the dead
Three books to be exact
Monkey king it's not his innate to have the MKV
But when he gets it does feel like one of the better items he could pick up overall
Yeah, and I'm divine for an issue is the thought and a moonshark he bought the moonshark for monkey king already
Which we said that he might do
Extra bit of attack speed, feels really good. Liquid onto the high ground, they go.
Here it's a chest buyback. We're waiting for him to use it in game number one, game two.
He's still not using it here in this moment, but he's got 20 seconds until he's back alive.
Yeah, Team BB, allergic to BBs. They don't want to be using them yet.
Kind of the right move. Even if you lose one set of barracks, it's still not worth it.
And Kez starting to think about getting the divine rape here for himself
Kez had
fought himself and devoured a moonshard
So like eating a laughy-taffy you just eat that now you got more attack speed
I wanted four divines in the first game
It feels like we might get four divines in this game with the amount that are queued up in them
But Nisha, unqueuing the Devines, going 16,000 gold, he wants a Wind Waker.
Something that Blitz said, no better player than to utilize 7, 8 items in the backpack.
And so far he's been doing a pretty good job.
He did sell that Kai Assange, Tormenter Time, Ace will pick it up, which is going to make
him tank here, even extra bit of a slow in the teamfight.
already got 6500 health there might become a point where he's got over 10,000
how do you break through that kind of HP because not currently having problems
as long as he's allowed to stand and trade beat the record for most last hits
this tournament at 1200 just about he is dead he's the one who does not have
buyback shaco connects it's under the jikiro they'll lose tofu too oh this
could be the opening without tiny two minutes two really long minutes and they
want to make us seems like they are prepping I see save going for a refresher
so he can go in use the focus fire with his data list and this so do onto the
barracks refresh again use another focus fire damage that goes through debuff
Immunity
Is it really there so let's see how they approach this they should probably know that tiny uses buyback earlier
Three minutes, but they can also go into the Roche bit
Gevetic wants to feel much more safer coming into the fight to have another ages Roche on number five. I believe
Other
Ages the fifth or six not six or seven and now
Working again. Both teams four buybacks each. We are two minutes away from maybe exchanging out these tier fives if they do
Want to do so
30 seconds without the jikiro he'll be alive seemingly as the push comes in
Just need this last set of racks to
Get the mega creeps and they were working with save just
Jumping in at her, immediately down, almost already dead, there it is, there it goes.
See, he was just jumping in using the Stygian Desolator to try and get in with the BKB and go for this.
Got a call for him, drops through, cataclysm, not gonna be on the mark.
Carrot Gitch now at the front, is gonna be Magikreeps at least.
So still, no tidy for 25 seconds, but they've got the Abyss away, it's gonna be out of Carrot Gitch.
Trying to get away with the BKB.
They don't grapple, claw down to the low ground, no afterdance, but does it get a life back?
Nisha on the side.
Nisha, he's there on the side of one.
The laser gets the Aegis out of his hands and the Gunny Ice Peth as well as the Magpire
ready to go to go after the Kessie, starting up completely.
The carriage is down to have help.
Has to refresh.
Now he's backing off with the rest of his team.
We're looking for an opening.
And to make the throne for Liquid.
Got these golems going in and it's tier four's gone.
Those are the power of the golems.
He's got refresher aggs.
Also this time took the summons to golem on death so a lot.
We're talking about zoom meta with the necro books and zoom meta with the golems.
I think they're gonna go in like maybe wait until they have their bkbs online.
Line for it.
Monkey King.
And try to kill the throne.
There is glyph available but they can try to overwhelm them with the damage.
This focus fire with the desolator too.
minus 13 armor and you don't have that extra bit of protection right now
dire ancients sitting at only 23 armor so basically taking the full damage
they could throne so many options for bet boom to finish off this game will it
be the case will the golems get you gone in this one I think it's the play
I think they should go in because right now they have all buybacks
available try to drop those golems wait maybe for the refresher orb on warlock
to reset drop him in refresher with the wind ranger bkb he can position himself
further away from the fight and try to kill the throne with the refresher double
focus fire and you also have kez
what else do you buy at this point the game they got the divine under the
monkey king cataclysm for some information being used as though
So it's Thunder God's Wrath, 14,000 gold for Kez, 13,000 gold for Nisha who wants the
hex.
He replaced Lincoln's, that is in his backpack right now with the Wind Waker thinking maybe
he can get the save on himself, maybe he can save someone from the team.
And now we're at that point.
They didn't finish before 70 minutes.
Undefeated Liquid at 70 minutes plus.
I'll be at a small sample size.
I think it's go time.
I think they should go all in onto this throne and just try to kill it.
You are going to be fighting into Divine Rapier Monkey with Refresher.
They don't know about the divine yet.
Mckay has been hiding.
Stygian Desolator I believe was changed to give a different enchantment to save
he's now got Audacious. 100 attack speed, 80 magic damage, but incoming damage up
created by 10 percent. Options are plenty for both these teams. Avalanche
gonna be missed, the Stampede. Also Fleetfooted for the invoker on his
Dizoon Bloodray which he kept so he's got an extra 115 movement speed.
Sardar changed his to a Book of the Dead with Audacious so he's got
extra attack speed and magic damage there too, meaning more bashes potential, but you
are kind of seeing that these heroes on the liquid can't get out there to get their own
new neutrals if they wanted them.
They kill the creeps even before they kind of get to base, sending out these necrobooks
constantly, think here with the sheevas with laser AOE, the creeps still dive pretty
quickly.
Monkey King.
Doing this all without boots.
Now as he's
traded up for what we said to Divine Rapier.
But extra attack range might help out.
These Wukong's could stack up.
be a bit of a problem and that boom don't look like they're going to go in before Roche.
Misha has Aon Desk on Courier because if you put it in the backpack you have still a cooldown
so he's probably going to use this courier, drop one of the items into the backpack and
then deliver it straight away with the courier.
They send these guys play overthrow and these are the moments where you need to
get a courier to come in and help Gal and exchange these items, move around to
these late minimarks.
to potentially take this series 2-0, but we might be looking at a game 3 where we might
even see another 70 minute game. Can the side of Betboom break the undefeated streak of
70 minute games for Liquid? They've now got a Divine Rapier flying in and delivered on
Keratich who's got 11,300 gold to his name. They're stocking up for game 3 with all
this gold being picked up. His buyback is 5,000 gold. Anisha's buyback over 5,000.
This is intense. And career. Career, career, career. It's okay. It survives. Another book
of the dead. Miero picks it up for himself. That has the hex and the a on this gun and
this courier is doing a lot of delivery work.
I want to see them go.
I want to see them enter the fight with their blink daggers
and just go for the throne.
Throw these rocks, go with Warlock.
He dies, he comes back into the fight,
he can buy back and die again, drop two more golems.
Buy back in, boots of travel too,
back in, die on purpose.
Yeah, exactly.
More golems.
put all the items in the backpack or leave them in base so you just die instantly
hey you need the eggs in the refresher come on
gotta hold those. nah you're gonna use it the first time
oh yeah so when you're coming back when you're coming back you're coming in naked
you just want to get one shot I see what you're saying
oh man that's very funny
Roche, 10-30. That'll be... 7th? Roche, I think the last one's 6th or 5th. Or... does
the number signify the next or the last? More things that I have questions on. Let's
see as... they just have not stepped away from where they've been at on this side
of the map. GPK's been sitting in this triangle for quite some time. I think... liquid
haven't been able to replace their neutrals at all still just not able to
leave their base at all tinker effectively still sitting seven slotted
but his courier does have a on this gap is I can't click on it because it's on
the throne it's gonna be a lot of problems and this can hex on a courier
There you go. Thanks guys. Appreciate that. You're better clickers than I am
So his courier
Not as farmed as tiny but getting there
His courier's got a lot of net worth on them. They still have not moved Roach another two minutes away
Wait it out. Don't risk anything. Don't go. Don't go
Everybody has to hold
It'll happen like, you know when you've got a glass full of ice and you want one ice cube?
Oh, hold that thought, we're gonna go into the fight!
Jikiro, dead! Tofu, gone! Block of cheese also available on the Wind Ranger.
They got the Jikiro, he's got buyback!
Liquid didn't hold!
But they are trying to stay solid here on the high grounds.
Jikiro out far from the rest of his team. I was not expecting him to die.
But it's a good way to stop me from saying stupid things
All right, how many more items can we get on this thinker?
At least three more you have to fill up the courier. Can we bring back couriers that could use items?
Well, he would definitely love to have that one that should be a purchase you can make
to have hex hex and they gone five on courier yeah and then radiant so I'll
casual radiance as well any any other divines being picked up are we seeing
divine gaming or is it just the two divines I asked for four last game I
want for this game instead I would be so happy with that no caretich is divine
one player right now, only one in his inventory.
Stream for the day.
Tetherumi, you got Golems on death. Why do you want the Aon disc? Don't you just want to die?
Do you want to die?
He wants to get the LT off the first time.
And this has to be the latest Crimson Guard purchase in the history of Dota.
78 minutes, Slaughter just got his.
I think we've been scared of each other for 20 minutes at this point
It's the block damage that you're playing against monkey king
His will cause command double
Do him dirty like that
21 and a half minutes
That's messed up seven throws
Seven is the lucky number
Agus, for Kez, another banner, another cheese, another refresher shard for Kez there too.
Botk of cheese in the backpack of save.
At this point just buy a moonshard for your Slardar, he is not getting as much farm but
somebody get it for him, GPK already bought one for himself, Kiritich did buy one for
himself as well.
Now that you've gotten this Aegis, there is a chance that you fight in.
They're looking to have not taken notes on previous 70 minute expanses.
Fallen Sky, and they found the Warlock! This is the problem!
He dies in the Golems!
Or Golem.
Doesn't end up having health.
Oh, he doesn't have that A on this. It feels like he did listen to you.
Uh, you know, I'm gonna admit I was wrong.
Maybe you should have had the A on this. I didn't expect you to be by yourself all over mid, but I was wrong.
I'm an idiot.
Well...
Now be at the 80-minute mark, marking the longest game of the tournament.
And I don't think we're even halfway done.
Oh, this is the early game, just finished.
Yeah, yeah, this is the early game. There's still six more items to get.
There's the Aeon disc. Still has Buyback. Boots of Travel 2 for the Sardar.
So he's going to be able to jump back with his allies.
And everybody's just getting Boots of Travel 2. Nobody has his hots left.
Pockets full. Shrine for Tofu. That's a lot of experience to get.
Still at sit level 27, and I think now liquid, it should have in theory been able to go and get some new neutrals, but still nobody has picked up a new neutral on liquid at all.
That death on Warlock means plus two minutes, and we will not have a commercial break, but you know, we're close to it.
Here's a little ad from our sponsors.
We got ourselves a very invigorating and exciting game.
But now Kez, he is legitimately nine-slotted.
That's not his item, that's consumable.
So refresher, he can still buy it.
But he has 20,000 gold.
I'm taking my stick out, I'm gonna poke them to try to go in and try to do something.
warlock did try to do something on his own
didn't work
this is that game where you're like one more game before bed
and then this is that game
and if you end up losing this one you have to play another because you can't end on a loss
no, no, you cannot end on a loss
in this tournament technically you can't end on a loss, that's unfortunate
Casprepping, he did buy Divine Rapier, is sending it, he's sending it to his fountain
So you can have Buyback and another divine divine at home.
I love divine at home.
Fortunately for me, it's legend at home.
But they are trying to bottle up this
amplify damage.
There it is.
So save.
He's got that still has the block of cheese running for about
a fourth of its duration.
Mier even bought the bottle just to use that, just to get that amplified damage.
Now he's gonna sell it. I think it's time. Amplified damage on your Windranger, Daedalus,
Thessau too. Try to go in and close it out. Try to split the fight. They have one blip
available. They're doing it. They are splitting the fight. Look at them entering from the
top lane. Try to buy a little bit more time.
I swear you said the same exact words ten minutes ago.
Sentry Ops placed, so maybe they know something is up.
Smoke breaks.
Bleak in, Slythera Crush gonna be on the ace,
they go to the fall, and Scott, it's gonna be Bot to get a kill.
Sane's going for the throne, and then for the throne,
they've got the glyph, can they hold it?
Sane's just seen on the throne, the glyph's not gonna last long enough,
can they get the kill out of these heroes,
and stop them from getting the throne?
It might be possible, but the throne's gonna explode.
We're going to a game three,
the undefeated streak is over,
it's a little bit anti-climactic again,
but there was a victory for Batmoo.
Congrats, I feel like they could have done this 15 minutes ago when save pot is data-less,
but they managed to get to dub and we're gonna go to game 3.
Going to a game 3 indeed, BedBoom getting that victory and Liquid, well, now both these teams have a long fight victory
and well, we've got a long panel to talk about. Guys, take it away.
Yeah, I think the teams are trolling us actually at this point.
They're trolling, yeah, they're like, you know what, we just want a best of three, that's longer than a best of five finals, just for the lulls.
They might be getting there with this raid.
I think so. Two insanely long games.
Petition to make this a Bestified by chance?
I mean, yeah, at this point, like, then we're gonna be here all night just for this series.
You have, what, 80 minutes in this one, 70 minutes in the other one?
There's just, in both games, you have so much back and forth, where at the start, you know,
Liquid, they're ahead, they're doing good stuff, Nisha had, like, insane network, like, this entire game.
And then here, you know, you have this early, like, highlight, they're getting kills, then...
This happens, like, minute 28. I think this is the same time they threw in Game 1 here.
They're kind of throwing in Game 2 and then Bedbom gets the Roach, see what you got.
I mean, I love the fact that we're watching two games which are kind of identical storylines, right?
It is the, like, again here, Mickey jumping into the tree, save instantly getting in the tree cart,
here this is the moment where Liquid, even with Tiny being dead, you can feel the tempo that they're trying to set.
They made Tinker the main character of the game.
Mickey's sacrifice is his own game by rushing a disperser for some cheap dispelled going for BKB later.
Like, Liquid was playing for Tinker to be that guy, but Monkey dies in the mid lane giving him ages.
Then top lane, Tinker finally gets a big pick off on himself.
Oh, that makes me sound like...
Whatever, who cares?
He dies.
He dies, and then BV utilising that Aegis they got because of the Monkey Death mid
to then bring open this game and make it truly competitive.
So for Liquid, if Monkey didn't die mid, if they continued that aggression but cleanly,
if they didn't have the Tinker Dive top, you know, playing into the Aegis timing,
Liquid maybe could have won this second game, but that's the same thing we said in the last time.
Liquid's aggression, you praise it, and at some points it will unravel them,
And then they play for the late game making these comebacks, but I love the back and forth between the two teams
I don't even care about the analysis. It's just a great best. I mean, it's sort of impossible to really like pin down
It's like it's longer than a movie this game
You know I mean there's like 83 minutes that you need like one. I try to like dissect there's so many like
Different moments. I think I know one woman actually go on maybe maybe shouldn't take ages
All right, I feel like whenever they get an ages their ability to make it look like it's actually a detriment to their high ground
is impressive like they seem to really choke when they have an agent in their
hands now that that's my one takeaway from this game so far but like they
think it's they're getting like the earlier ages they get where they should
be turning the game around is because liquid are like kind of our position and
like liquid have like second rose trauma I don't know what it is but when
it's about to respawn they just find themselves in a really shit position
I'm not gonna lie but it's still like what I love from bedroom in these
games it said they're very aggressive like they're finding these
opportunities where maybe other teams you know they aren't in that position to
then punish like what like you saw in the earlier clip made or Nisha who has
alchemist network and then gets picked up at the top tier two with no BKB with
no San Pieter available and then I mean we have 21 minutes to go through which
I was like there's a toss back there's this happening then save gets a stigian
desolate and I feel like at some point Mero he demoted himself to be the
pause for he buys a crimson guard he buys the bottle for a safe so he can
bobble up the double damage rune yeah I don't know where else to take it
It's really good actually BB lost to Yandex right in the upper bracket because the way they lost against Yandex was this type of game
If they didn't lose in that fashion, maybe we would see them have such discipline here, right?
Yeah, okay
It could have been a bit of a snooze from minute 60 to 80 how long it took them to go high ground
But look at the things like what they're doing at the high ground
This would scare any team in the world at once to try and close out this game
And you have to then give a lot of credit to the eventual conclusion of the game in the double split
go two heroes top three heroes bottom the idea of like bait the fight but then save comes in
the four positions actually the ancient clearing the end like not many teams think about you know
spitting the ancient damage at the very end you have to think about the creative solutions right
we said about in the post game of the last game how do you come to a conclusion of a game
how do you re-show your test of a character as a player and here bb's kind of their way of
answering it was great but it's because of the yandex series i think they were so scared to
I think the Andex will be rubbing their hands watching this as well, because whichever team wins is going to be exhausted, you know.
Especially Liquid, like you started yesterday early, you ended early, you're coming in early.
But in terms of game time, you are closing in on a game five type of game length by the time they will end the next game, whether it's a W or a loss.
And I think also overall I do want to talk about, or at least raise the point, I think Liquid had pretty poor itemization in this game.
I think when you're when you're the tinker in this game, I think he needed a BKB earlier
I understand he didn't die much
But then when you get caught at the top tier 2 and you don't have a stampede that you're gonna get cooked there
They have nullifiers if you have BKB your trans locator
You can still get like TP the way if you nullified without it this doesn't happen
I think also make it while we can say okay
You know he put more of his like eggs like in the niche a basket. He didn't really have any good scaling
They didn't have a AC or she was until like 65 minutes in the game
So I think overall that liquid have some things to like learn to talk about after this game
But my boy this guy this is why if you're a support player
Yep, you should also sometimes play core in your pubs. Look at this kid 80% kill participation level 30 Windranger
They don't a stigian refresher. He's got it all he made the cost
Let me kill the racks. Let me kill the throne by Mia bought of me arrow
You're the you're the guy now who's supporting me. Let me do it
The funny thing was we were actually talking backstage about this guy
We were like talking about fours and you know who do we like and who has the most impact and
He actually you did say that you know save is one of those players where you think you might be a little bit slept on
No, he's always been like one of the best fours in the world. It's just his team just doesn't look it back
Yeah, I mean historically he has been held back by
Iteration the teams he's been on right and there are moments like this where he will just just shine right and I think it's
29 minute to me the speed of that partial the back the kill the monkey
That's like the small thing saved us in a game to create the bigger moments
I don't have much more to add because that guy he cooks like I would say especially like post four players overall
It's very easy like to look okay, but it's incredibly hard to look like a god
You know like the boxies the socks are all like him
So I think it just really shows when you have these longer games
Well, we can take a look at some highlights from that epic. You picked something out. You wanted to show off, right?
Yeah, what I want to show is like one of the moves that happened in this game if you pay attention in a moment
Liquid will scan bottom and it only hits the case for like it was for like two seconds
So they understand someone is there. So later they're smoking in this area and they see okay. Ancients are farmed you can see that
Boxing is blinking through. He's like, okay. Ancients are dead
So in this entire smoke he went top and he's catching the case on like their own side of the map because they understand
We're up for a kid. We have the ages. They don't really want to fight us, right?
We understood and said Bedroom's a new time. You haven't walked or you've cares. You lost the early game
So just understanding this map play and making this happen very high skill
I mean twin gates are just something you have to understand right like if you see a camp taken
What's the likelihood that they've gone back to their side of map unlikely? You're gonna to engage
You're gonna be cheaty the best carries in the world
Know how many camps they can farm and push the limits and keeping to a tier 2 and go into investigate that even following through
The twin gate, you know, you need to always be thinking about that
And that's why Boxy is such a scary player in these longer games because he's always thinking well that next camp
I'm gonna go find yeah, Nisha as well
We've obviously talked a lot about him and we had this tinker pick and you know like you said it was meant to be the main character
I mean he was the main character the entire game. All right Nisha tinker. It was so
Look at his net worth
Inventory 16 minutes into the game my guy had to chill
But no, I fully agree with Kezu about the the itemization
It kind of felt like he was going more old-school tinker in like the Dagon the eblades the linkins and
There is a major argument to be had what if he bought a BKB
What if he thought about agonies maybe the sheevers as other items he could have bought earlier?
But when you're when you're crushing the game like this when you know your monkey king is is your frontline
You kind of feel like maybe I buy Dagon maybe I keep winning the fight right now
Maybe I don't invest in the future because they're doing well
But because of the blunders of liquid then you have to look towards the tinker and go well
You're not being stable now because you were trying to play on such incredible timings, but yeah, it's big we think that's like the
The only rule thing I want to yeah like he did because tinker is a type of hero
He doesn't like need damage to kill the enemy team if he stays alive
He can like TP out and come back in that's like kind of all he needs
So you don't need to build more damage you need to build items that allow you to deal the damage
like you already have in your kid and I think he could have ended this game
potentially deathless you know if you go some BKB into the agonist after and
just have it like very cleanly but I will say that it is also on bedroom that
they abuse you know they rush this nullifier to make use of it they find him
they get this kill they prolong the game and suddenly they take the lead
and they clutch it out where it's liquid when you and he was literally
playing alchemist in this game so when you make mistakes and when you get
picked off like this it matters like twice as much as in a normal game
yeah and of course you've already mentioned carries it's just nullifier even
like GPK on his Invoker, like the way that they were playing, it was always let's go and
push the limits, go find the Tinker in the highlights that we spent like an hour analysing.
You know, GPK was blinking to the high ground to Tinker. He didn't get it, he might die,
but it doesn't matter. Kiritic, he gets the Aegis, instant nullify, you get the
pick off. Like BB, they had very minimal windows in this game to break this like fortress
of a Tinker. Save catches the monkey, which enables the Aegis. Aegis that enables the
nullified to then catch the tinker like these actions if they don't occur we are talking about liquid so both save and kira titch
Really stepped up to kind of save their life in this tournament. Yeah, and that means we go to a break
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all right, welcome back, Buckle up, we've got theories, yeah, make sure you've got some snacks, make sure you've got some drinks.
This is a long one and Tee would say to me in the break like Richard, this is what this
is what we do in Dota 2.
This is going to make you it'll make a man of you is going to watch you.
These are this is I can only imagine what the players are going through because I lost
it.
It's like so crazy.
You saw like you should do this like after game one because it's like singing to you
know the roller coaster that happens in game two.
You know they're talking about it right now like we also never know what the players
are talking about.
Is it one moment?
Is it like a bigger change of strategy?
Is it something else?
Communication because like you just said there is a lot going on in these games. Yeah, I mean like you sort on GP case face
I mean like that is a look of relief
Like you when you get I'm not necessarily because they won but because it was just over
One again out of that game of W. Yeah, of course
I feel like we're not lost that you have to enjoy these moments in the game
Oh sure because I as a player you don't really get to these minute marks too often right don't get to think about the
You're not having these discussions of oh my crew are going to just get a hex, right?
Like, oh do you want to moonshot mate?
Like, these conversations never happen in competitive Dota.
So sure, yes, it's a tournament live on the line, all this stuff, but I'd like to think
at the end of this, like, that's why I love this game.
You know, all the small things, so, yeah, that aside, we are going to have a game
three.
It is going to be, you know, one game deciding if we are going to get BB Yandex or, you
know, Liquid Yandex in the finals, but.
The most damage.
Yeah.
In the top in the tournament. He had to chill. All right, this I mean
Catechism late game even throughout the game
Double click it he would even talk about the fact that he stole one of the cementers, right? Like yeah, yeah
He was sweating. Yeah, he was what believe it. I think I like about you became vocal as well
Is as soon as he sees an a on disc in the game. He always looks at the mini-map and goes, oh
Let's say game one dark willow showed for a second. Okay. I'm just gonna throw a Sun strike into the this tree line
If you hit it boom and this product nice enjoy your your own cool down there
So that was one thing he was doing from all the game so far whenever I on this came into play
It's like I want to break you. Yeah, I do think he was very much like on the ball
He's like kind of because in this game it was not that easy for him in the early game
Like there isn't that much to play through your offline is getting obliterated like in the mid lane
You were against a tinker you're both just farming but then the longer the game went
I think he had very clutch spell casting overall eventually
He also, you know, he has the glape near with the Dizoon blood right here five item like this exodia of a we that just everywhere like even if you run away
You're still getting hit so definitely the GP can walk her is something that liquid need to keep in their mind for this final draft here
And yeah, this is this I mean I'm very intrigued by what what is gonna happen here because we've already praised
Team liquid having these really nice well thought out structured drafts with layers to them that boom a bit more chaotic
their hero pool seems to be wider they're willing to play more options you know I
could certainly see a curveball coming in from there I'll be honest I forgot about
what the drafts are all about I'm gonna take a second to reset no I know both
games I'm like okay okay there's three there's a longer the shadow team tiny
there was also the first loss that liquid actually received on the tiny
they're gonna give them out seven one yeah never go line Kezu yeah I never
pick this hero again. That's bad. I got it, Richard. Honestly, I'm also just focusing.
I understood like one word. You did your job. You said my name at the end of your sentence.
That's all I got. Oh, okay. It's just football. Oh yeah, I mean them whatever. Keep it up, Richard.
All right. So things I've learned. Canceling football references off the table. Fine.
Just give me like at least maybe like the easy ones, you know, no American football stuff
or american football like whatever keep keep that out of here i mean it is soccer i was talking about
but fun i'm here you you said desert how can you do this i was just on the thing out of it
it's between you two how's this normal hosting get this guy off here pgl um i said it this guy's
out of control just like this hero 17 and 4 yes actually back to you to go oh yeah uh thank you
I was waiting for the soccer bit to end.
Um, yeah, 10-player assassins, the soccer bit, yeah.
I said soccer, just for him as well.
Um, anyway, yeah, 10-player assassins.
American, so whatever.
Uh, but yes.
Ooh, okay, all right.
So, our first pick, T8, of course, I think Parker popularized it a little bit with his Tundra run.
Yes.
But it's not, like, uncounterable.
We've seen Medusa's, even Liquid Nuggets, for a straight underlawed pick.
If you get the right position 4 in this lane that has any type of disable, it could be, like, an old-school line.
a duck with or just something to give a bit of spacing for the underlord and he shoves the wave
it's going to be fine but you have to respect TA hits timings very easily and progresses them up
very easily yes and obviously liquid have been banning the mars good news for ace
oh come on you just keep doing the kill richard all right they already went for the when an
emergency break last to pick his underlord okay we don't need to also talk about this
I'm just bringing it up. Yes something I've observed. You're the only one that wants to bring it up on this panel
Yeah, I know
Cowards once again
Yeah, keep doing amazing
See there's a reason why liquids drafting on the Lord's and stuff. Yeah, actually there we go
Back to you Richard it had so much impact in the first game if it was the first game
I think it was three hours ago right I did have a lot of impact we talked about I obviously was picked into a
Centaur and
It stopped a lot of disengaged with the double pits. So what game are you on about very impressive?
You're not yesterday. No today. Oh, it's the first game the center of our game. You're doing it now
Oh center on the Lord. Sorry. I put you on about master. I'm tripping. All right, these two games
We're all losing it.
Just keep it together guys. One more game. Just hold it down.
When old man Richie Lewis starts talking about Ace, I'll be honest.
I turn off a brain a couple times. I'll be real.
I don't stand by. I was holding the energy.
Okay, what are we getting here from Pet Boom?
Most likely it should be the double sub.
I will say that I have loved Saves Ringmaster.
I understand, you know, maybe you can look for like some melee heroes
against the Warlock to make that happen.
But then you should also know that Liquid are very open at flexing in terms of that.
The Warlock can't just lane in the offlane if they want to do that with the Underlord to like
just cheese him through the lane, fatal bonds, firestorm, heal him.
You know, you're chilling, you're doing your stuff, but for BB Team overall,
I think double sub is just kind of simple here, whether they want.
I was maybe going to mention Tusk, but I really do not like Tusk into Underlords,
so kind of scrunch then.
I mean, Save just doesn't play many melee heroes.
his only tiny is the only melee option he's had so far from the entirety of V'la Hia.
So into the warlock, you kind of want to hear that is a bit like he's arranged here, but
kind of can do the melee role right like ring monster can pull waves he can do all this
shenanigans kind of like the same as what a shaman can do it's why they're they often
rise to the top in certain wave pulling methods.
I mean what's the fight here because I feel like it's nice if you can like use
the lane in a way.
Oh, interesting.
Well, at least like TA is a type of hero where you generally just have a good lane you see on the Lord
So it's pretty nice. So now overall it's gonna be it's a battle of the mids like already also if you're liquid
You need heroes on this backland. This is double saving support already with ringmaster and Oracle
I mean you are screaming at one thing the pucks the storms the mid lane is I can do this
But if you pick it in this position BB on 18 they can then set up for the husker and right and then you have an Oracle
plus Haskell combination. You're in trouble. You are in trouble. It's a liquid. They need this
backline finding here from the mid lane, but they probably need to hold it into a 24 pick.
And now Mikke plus Boxy have to reveal their hand in the hope to kind of get this archetype of
here that we are mentioning. I know it would be a very ex-ly lane, but when you see doubles
supports like this, Ricky is a very good position for. I understand you will lack damage and
whatnot, but once you get the shard, Ringmaster can save, Oracle can save. So maybe something
like more like complex in a way I don't know like what like what else can you look for on like this
four position that is cool I mean you can look for maybe more casual better laning side of your
Underlord I don't know if there's something else that breaks I mean in a way then there's also the
Marci option yeah so like throw yourself into the backline there's always the Marci you grab a
hero and go but okay they go for a toss but the rick you suggested actually very niche and specific
but yeah conception you could have been really cool this game but they don't want to mess around
in a game three they will stick to the very classic boxy tusk yeah with his
icy hands yeah as Jenkins likes to call it but they are protecting Nisha yeah
they're giving him the last pig because yeah if you're doing like if they're
gonna pick one of these birds you're getting Oscar and this game is a 90 to
10 at that point yeah liquid they like playing for the comeback at Easter
they'd have enjoyed that part of the game but they would have dragged it out to 85
yeah okay let's see what answers do we have they just ember on the 18 slot at
least for now so kind of also goes to show that they feel like they have more
answers like for the kids later down the line is that not a weird I mean it's
good for for BB to have playmakers but when you pick ember you need to ban
like Viper plus husker right yeah meaning you cannot ban the storms in the
But of course Ember does somewhat cover you from Storm Park, but we've seen time and time again
Nisha goes you pick your Ember. I have my Storm Park
I don't really care because my job is for supports you're caught a core matter
I don't get I don't respect it at all because my job elsewhere in the game so
Might be a bit of a weird one at least for me
And I guess they feel like that this they just want to make sure to play through mid like super nicely with their
Double sub and like you said that Ember covers all the ones that they feel like liquid want in a way
everything about BV is play through the mid lane, you get the vessel timing on ember,
you're getting all the active runes because you just know what side of the map they're going to be on.
Through this aggression tier gets deso, you walk to Roche and get free ages, go go go.
And then you're hoping that aces maybe only got one aura, maybe one and a half auras at that time.
And that's kind of your boiling point of your draft.
It's very scripted, you know exactly how they want to play out the game.
That's why Liquid take away the off-lane is that enable this very stable approach to a game free.
to me it's like tight-hunted brewmaster they sound kind of cool just yeah
additional blobs to the inevitable aggression that I'm gonna see from
from these cores on BBA. Is there anything else that gives like casual good
items, some teamfights maybe some bristleback I think Miro likes this
hero it's okay I don't necessarily love it against Kaz but I think you are
pretty good with TA you're pretty good with Ember you have like good poke
you can keep running in and out. They could potentially just throw in a
Doom into the mix. Yeah, that's like one of the nicer answers I guess Kez as well
But you just do the Kez if there's a massive playmaker on Nisha you preemptively go
He's going to be doomed. Good luck. The problem there
Lane might be a little weird. I don't really know how the ring doom Lane is gonna fair into a tusk rotating with Warlock and Kez
Yeah, when you have tusk on the Lord that very quickly will break into tusk roaming the map on the Lord playing at
His tower just kind of farming the creeps
It's like a good game answer, but for the lane you're definitely right that it's
It is certainly Kes favored so if they want to like value more like a stable game
They can like look for someone else, but doom gives you like the quite strong answer to the case at least during the game
They also banned out the slaughter themselves on liquid
So as well like just minus armor and like solid laning in the top lane
And they did still respect the puck right done, so it was good to respect that
Hmm, Mero versus Nisha. That's pretty much what we're going to be seeing here.
Is there anything cool that we're missing? We mentioned Doom, we mentioned Bristle.
Mentioned a lot. We've been speaking for a long time. This is a really long best of three.
It's a bigger five. I wish. If there ever was a world in which a tournament organizer
can quickly change their format mid-tournament, it would be this specific series.
Could it... hmm... Timber?
I guess, I mean, the lane is also not easy.
You could go change later, at least you have like high armor.
As long as the off-laner entertains buying like a Lotus or Crimson and wants the frontline,
that's all that matters, because Ember will bring the tempo, TA will bring the objective,
and the blob just needs the blob.
Then at the same time, because obviously Liquid in the slot, they're also thinking about their pick.
I don't feel like this offline pick will influence Nisha's pick too much, unless it is maybe the doom.
It does stay if BB can play on a teamfight timer.
If they pick a no-locked-off laner that doesn't buy aura, they do go for the Baratshi, that was mentioned.
But yeah, if they don't go for lockdown, Liquid will go, okay, concede a bit of early map,
respect their aggression, and then they can never out-teamfight us at some point in the game.
But Brewmaster, it does fit the middle ground.
PBB has got a very good draft for game three.
It really hits all the notes that we praised them for,
about the efficiency of lane, the early map play, the runes.
Like, it ticks all those boxes.
I'm not sure what Misha wants here, if I'm going to be honest.
Like, there's some that are like, whatever, in a way, like they're okay.
Like, Void Spirits and whatnot.
Like, GBK won't really care about this matchup.
voice for it's like the simplest option just for the ha ha I double jump in I expose Oracle's positioning and then you fur and fiendscape, but
They do screw for the storm here
I think it makes sense like there weren't too many other ones where you can like dominate the lane
Like you can't pick Necro into a Bruin Oracle even though there's an ember that kind of falls out
Some of the other ones that like own the lane
They're not really in the game anymore either with like Huskard. There's no SF
So they just go like fairly I would say normal casual with a you know 24 storm
We've seen scary at 24 pics that's for sure and if you look at to me
This is very scary right if you're an Oracle player and you see a storm in the enemy team
Especially if the stones where it's a buying shevers nowadays
It's not as if it's a storm who can zip incorrectly and okay
I'm gonna zip back out you your zip will 90% of the time find the guy you're looking for because of the shevers vision
right and I liquid to be very happy with our heroes it has the ability to team fight and
To play out any state of a game and then for BB. I am seeing a window of
you know timing that need to be hit like the longer the game goes team fighting
just gets harder it's just the product of their heroes but now I think they're
gonna be very happy that they actually can lead out a game they can control the
early game it's not gonna be a I mean I'd like to think it's not gonna be
liquid winning the early game be becoming back you know same as game
winning game to like these heroes have to win the early game yeah like maybe
this game can be like more clean I think in a way at least early on like
you're saying from bedroom because I think they have a lot of things that
they can play for like again you have Oracle you know what the runes are gonna
be you have the ember versus storm matchup I think most lanes are okay I
mean brew ring top they're not gonna beat the cast but I think they should be
okay like in that lane I can definitely see it like minute like 17 to 20 when
you get this crimson guard I think there's a little bit of like lacking
damage from bed boom they need like dragged out files for some vessel keep
poking so I'm overall slightly leaning liquid maybe like later down the line
but I think this is another game where it's down to the gameplay I want to
Liquid actually put deeper vision on the map to know where the supports are going when you have an oracle on your team
You know where the room is gonna be
So why not have a war to scout the oracle's positioning because if he's running to top guess what the rune's gonna be top right?
So maybe some quirky vision from the supports of liquid could break BB's ability to get into this game
Do you think we'll see lots of rune fighting? Oh a hundred percent
Whenever you put BB in a game at Dota 2 GPK screaming now
There's been contracts broken because the supports don't go to mid on time. All right, so yes
They will be room fighting. It's not the only thing that's been broken by GPK before my guy needs to win this game for the sake of his career
That's the sake. I don't know. I did fake stakes to this game, but he's broken items
It was more for Joe, but you know when you have two spirits in the mid lane
You're gonna have many room fights, and I think for both teams early game is incredibly important
Mm-hmm. All right. Well, I certainly hope our castors aren't broken after two long games
I'm gonna hand you over to be cop and Lacoste
Thank you very much coming into game number three
I will be broken if there is another 80 minute game where there's not really a fight to end the game
I want the madness. I want the fights. I want it all. We're here at game three
That's why they picked brewmaster Benjamin because he has innate ability called liquid courage
And they're gonna have more courage to end the game
Potentially took them good 25 minutes unnecessarily in the previous one. They got the dove can't really blame them
It was in the elimination game. So they took it slowly, but let's check what they could do with this one
It is again two saving supports and with the jumps that they have you have Kez, you have Star Spirit, you have kind of the same
maybe a bit of a lower cooldown with Warlock, but he's also a saving
He's a team fighting position 5. You have a save coming out from the snowball and Underlord
I think I'm gonna have to agree with
Kez on this one where once Underlord gets one first big like
It's very good against Temporal Assassin, Kiritich.
I've been satchin' on grenade a couple of times.
It looks like that's gonna be the case here, first blood for Ace.
And that takes out Kiritich, Kiritich, who on the shadow feed, if you're remembering game number one,
a billion minutes ago, you know, had the start of 0 and 3.
I think even maybe 0 and 4.
But he had a tough time, he struggled at the beginning.
But this is Temporal Assassin, right? We've talked about this hero, Adnausium, about how they just always find farm, they're always at this point where they have 10,000 net worth at about 15 minutes.
It's disgusting what a hero like this can do.
That works definitely, but we'll have to see if he can replicate some of the Temporal Assassin performances.
says, Kirtich look good. Apart from a couple of these early deaths coming out and it seems
like Boxy, Boxy Tusk, give him his, I would say best hero in the game 3. They're good
backfire, they started really strong in this one and they are doing pretty good. Katomi
getting actually clicked by the Tusk and the whole creep wave. This is the hero that
trades extremely well, he's sitting at 4 armor, has a good strength gain, good stats
overall and just to pull the creep wave into this area which kind of benefits
Ace as well if he wants to use the firestorm but for now he's just right
clicking them down. Vox you're doing a pretty good job keeping away Oracle from
getting close. We've seen what these oracles can do late in the game
especially even early with those couple levels of like purifying flames
having that poochens in that control but usually what we do see too is if
the team could control which I feel like they if the game goes their way
They should be able to control the objectives and get that shard. We can see that early reigns of destiny as well for
For Kat Naomi and that also adds to what oracles effectiveness is as this hero is I feel like a
Part of a meta now. It's been a couple sporadic games here or there
But this is a hero that I think all teams are starting to put on notice
Yeah, we saw tofu yesterday
We had the extremely good series where he did not allow allow a single core on his team to die
And his score was something insane. I just got to double check that real quick because that was the game three against team spirit
And yeah, he was sitting at seven one and twenty nine basically becoming a core a call
He with with this kind of a score. You don't see this too often
You say seven one and twenty nine. Yes. This is like mid lane mid laner score who's popping off
Jesus.
Gorgon's in on a two blood grenade, Boxy.
He's gonna be killed.
Purify Flames in a right click for Keratich now.
Get them on the board.
And that will be a kill for Keratich to kind of take care of the fact that he did give up that first blood.
No surprise, Templar Assassins do quite well early on.
And Miero now, taking some damage from Mikkei with that Echo Slash.
Well, the supports kind of bite each other, because this great master does want to cut the wave.
Heritage, get chased, firestorm is there, shards bot to main, one more right click from ace,
and back and forth we continue to go. Heritage dies, he gets a kill, he dies, he kills, he dies, he kills.
Where we're back in game number one, it feels like.
And ace, he's giving them the clicks. It's only one point in Atrafiora for now, but with the tag team,
That's level 2 tag team right now, so they're gonna try to overwhelm them with the damage and
Ace about to crack level 4, about to have pit of malice available,
so it's like they wanted to go for the dive on Kataomi.
This is something that they kind of struggled with in game number one between Kataomi,
was surviving this bottom lane. They're gonna bring over the ring naps through
but Kataomi is kind of out in no man's land with the beta bonds on him and Kataomi.
They'll get the kill there and it exactly happened this way in game number one because
because Kephaomi had that second death, or Kyrgych had that second death, and Kephaomi was left in the lane by himself, and he died another time,
and it was just liquid kind of overwhelming, uh, the lane in that first game.
And replicating the same thing, Boxy might even get the courier, blocks him off.
Courier killed.
And running forward to try and get Boxy, but he's going to back away and pick up a bounty rune in doing so, so a good amount of gold on this adventure for Boxy.
We're going to talk too much about the mid lane. Nisha, again, getting the top of this matchup.
Ember is good in the game against Tomesburg before he gets any kind of a spell mechanic, so you will have Searing Chains being very annoying for you.
Low cooldown ability, you have some follow-up stuns, maybe not stuns, but you have follow-up roots, you have team to beast as well, and here they come, one grenade.
Team to beast lands, but you should not get a dive, in case you're in trouble.
He's dead here with Foxy coming over.
See, trying to fight back a little bit, Miero's also dead liquid, dominating the early parts of this game.
of this game of the solo killed off who has for them or that's
not what you want to hear your play against the
namesake the PGO world off yet
and they've been trying really hard against this warlock to not give him
the crew wire stacks
But he's getting the best game.
Oh, he's got some good stuff.
See, team of beasts getting that kill.
At least getting something done.
GPK about to crack level six.
Storm Spirit is six already.
Because Nisha didn't go for boots.
He knows the matchup.
So went for soul ring, extra bit of protection
that you get, extra bit of armor, extra bit of tankiness
as well.
And save on ring master, only losing one game.
Not a five.
Pretty impressive.
Hero trying to drag the creep wave behind because right now he is not getting too much out of this lane.
Roo Master is not a hero that also like plays that well from behind, that was always his weakness.
I think now it's slightly better, you don't necessarily need to use the Primal Split to get a kill.
Before, you were kind of stuck. If your Primal Split level 1 and 2, if you don't get anything done with it, you were kind of cooked.
This is looking like games 1 and 2.
as Liquid had themselves a 7,000 net worth lead in that second game and in the first
game they had it as high as 11,000, almost 12,000.
They start the first 30 minutes all well and good, so Bepoom shouldn't be panicking
by any means because the series has gone this way continually.
Let's see if they can bring this one back. Ace is gonna be standing in this shrine. He's already got that level 6, pushing towards 7.
On top of the network, this is first pick, Underlord. Ace.
That's gonna be a very early vanguard coming out from him, and the damage output on their side is kinda limited.
And I think once he picks up the auras things are gonna look pretty rough for them and with the lead that they have
I also see that Mickey is going for overall better build on cans
I would say compared to battle theory so you will be more active early on you don't necessarily
Want to be farming as much to falcon blade into the power trends into this so
Don't want to be farming as much but when you know these games are going 80 minutes. We've got to make it to that late game
We didn't see some of that from the the brew I need to go into the he's going into the Midas, but that is recovery more than just
Hey, I'm waiting for
80
Coming comes down to food. There's the escape act team to be sitting on the floor for a second
That includes the golem a cathode. He's still dead. And that's another kill here for liquid eight minutes in Warlock is level six
They drop to golem you're seeing this time and time again where they are moving towards the mid lane and
Making sure that they are getting the tower kill and this time around Nisha was wondering which kind of a night of bill
He's gonna go for because he needs a dispel in this one
It's basically searing chains that's something that's kind of a trouble him and once you go for guarding grease
It's such a cheap item for the mid lane and you pair it up
with one or two
Items coming up from the offline you would potentially have three oras 20 minutes into the game because ace is off to such a great start
Amazing start for with all three cores farming on this
For Jinzan remnant forward goes back again GBK bells. That's getting
Doesn't want to fully commit in is where these stacks are being made
try and recover some of that deficit that they've got going on in palming arts
tofu doesn't have the chaotic offering but boxes coming over to the beast and
trying to get one more quick week the shadow word I find they use the snowball
he primal split they still want to go after tofu the chase is on to try and
kill him here but another shadow word more healed tofu on the run gets a
split out of this brewmaster who will find nothing for it
Foxy he's just too good on this hero and it was also communication with Tanisha to
drag the creep wave so that he gets close by that he can use the snowball on
the creeps and also use the shards keeping his position 5 alive. While all
this is happening you have Kez who's continuing to farm up needs another
Mithril Hammer to finish off his Deso and you also have Ace coming in and
Seems like he wants to go for Lotus this time around as his first item.
Team K!
GpK!
It's a real quick die!
Got the haste at least.
I guess.
Not too happy about that one.
That?
Static Remnant.
512 magical damage.
I really blew him up.
Stacks for Cure, Titch!
He wants his own Desolator.
10 to 6 on stacks. I know it's early, but what's the Dota Plus already staying in the
win percentage? Because this feels like Liquid are having their best early game so far. 86%.
Casual 86 at 10 minutes. Sheesh. Goddamn. It does feel like they are in full control
of this game. Templar Assassin, she's not fight ready yet. Heritage will need to farm
of his there so maybe pick up a blink bagger and Storm Spirit is ready.
Nisha, 10 minutes in, already completed there's gonna be a loader sword to remove
some of these more annoying spells, mostly shearing chains and you will have
another way of dispelling things because then for assassin definitely later on
we'll have the shard against the Storm Spirit so you can take care of that
but I would also love to see the auras coming out from this Underlord
Expect the Underlord to move into these fights with the Fiends Gate.
Saw that as well in game number one.
How much Fiends Gate can do, how much that Ag's upgrade does with it, bringing in the
Pit of Malice, and that's more what I'm talking about is the zone denial with Pit of Malice.
Taking out those trees with the ball lightning to lay down a ward to get some vision
there for the dire.
hoping that that word ends up finding them a killer to paying itself off and
that is a good spot to put some vision. Sees pretty much the entry to the enemy
to their own triangle and sees the two ramps and sees the entry to the other
side as well so very nice word. Century. Thinking about the chaotic offering
We'll take out the Sentry quickly to keep that Ob's vision up.
Saves trying to get away, Rebnik forward going to the back line,
took him to the boxy, there's the wheel, wonder,
that will catch this tusk so they don't have the save of the snowball,
Rebnik back from GPK, Nisha, not working with a lot of mana,
but just have the ace underwear that came in with the fiends gate,
Siri chains, Voxen onto Warlock to threw down that Golem early.
Two kills, now they're looking for more.
The stun from the primal split as well as the cyclone,
now they'll have a trap on top of it, Nisha.
He's got no more mana remaining. That's gonna be another stun there.
They're not going into the Underlord. Ace running away, held strike in.
Mika is gonna come back here.
They've got the Lotus now. Oh, the Apple Slash!
Oh, the four heroes!
Oh, pit of mouse to follow it up. It's gonna be Ace still on for now when he hits a foe.
They get the kill to get into this Miro.
Saving and Cataloomie! Four heroes dead.
Betboom felt like they had that fight completely.
They're so tanky. This Underlord with Lotus Orb.
And having chipped West, he's being attacked, he's reducing the damage with the Atrophy aura, but also Storespirit, like he is the one soaking up some of the damage.
Didn't click Ashley's shield, maybe it would make the difference, and the save on the Lord there, but he soaked up so much.
You can see that Bisha immediately jumps the backline, that's why they picked the hero. Rock drops, but Poxy unable to get the snowball, tried by a little bit more time.
Two saving supports are going to be taken care of each other, and a bit of a longer fight.
Mikkei still was thinking at the time, does he need to come to this fight,
and decides to come in pretty late, and then the rest of the team,
they're going to draw them closer to where Mikkei is standing.
You can see at this point, Nisha 21 charges, Makreti as well.
And then this Echo Slash just rips through them all.
God, so much damage done by that Kezu, or Kez, get the kill out of GBK.
Mental damage to Kezu, yep.
We all wonder, they're on Allen, that's going to be a kill on a GBK, Guardian greaves faster
than the average.
Eighth Deso Stacks, they're ready to go inside a Roche pit and take it.
This is why this, I do prefer this build on Kez.
It is so much superior in terms of what you can do.
You pressure the towers earlier, you can go for Roche on earlier, and they have
to sustain.
saw this early backslash guard in view, some Nisha, and it's a lot of sustain on top of
Warlock's heal, Nisha, we'll be the one picking it up.
Tez is having too good of a game, sitting at 8000 net worth, I think they also did
make the slot, so he's gonna be the one picking it up, interesting.
Maybe they think we need to be sieging the towers, even like they did in the second
game where they close out all tier two towers relatively early on. Then you wait
30 minutes and go to the high ground right? Yeah. At least that's what I'm
learning from this series.
This is where we've expected to be in this third game based on what we've
seen prior. She became in trouble, silence, and the snowball connects and she became
just dead again. He tries to cut the creep wave and just dies for it. Not
much he can do except for no scratching there a bit too deep it's a way too much
damage coming up from these heroes they have the control yet to see Miero in
action Rammel split we saw him chasing Warlock but didn't really do much
finding all the way to save we'll escape back to the shards block the box and
that will be another kill for Liquid now up 7,000 mickey gonna get that one
And they'll throw a deep observer where they're gonna get this tier one tower
But it's an ops to kind of see the lane and get them more information not only that
But it will spot this shrine and get a bit more info on who's farming those camps nearby
giving some of the stacks
7k gold lead for liquid scan the tusk is coming over. They've also got this obs such great vision from liquid
Fiends gate immediately throws the trap down, shards blocking, Keratich will get the refraction off, but it's not a matter of every buddy he's here.
It is open by Smash Brothers Ultimate with everybody showing up, and that's going to be a kill on a Keratich.
They'll try to get another one on the save, chase him to the tier 2 tower, Echo Slash connects, and that will be another kill for the Kez as he's on a killing spree.
16 beso stacks, 16 minutes in. That's trying to make the move onto Warlock as low to sort for him.
Oh my god. And now thinking about dropping the chaotic offering, can he drop the beat?
Cheese did it a couple of times, Portex back, looking to maybe force the split, but Nisha is actually not going to commit.
So he doesn't need to get the split used, and he will back away on Miero. They need to really recover. They are struggling.
A lot of stacks on the galvanized 14 already, that's 4.4 mana reach per second, and they
are controlling all the runes.
Sure, you have Oracle, you know where the rune's gonna spawn, but you can't pick it
up.
No, and all that control going to the storm, going to these heroes on the side of Liquid
just means they have that extra bit of punch behind them when they throw that
right hook.
The lead continues to extend as Kez continues to just run forward and the back of his entire team is not afraid to continue to go.
There was a Ravens veil off to the side trying to go and get this Tempest Assassin character to be able to blink away with a refraction.
So unable to get their hands on more, they are still just jumping down the throat of Betboom.
They shut down GPK. He was supposed to be the playmaker to play with the two supports, Templar Assassin.
She's a bit of a slower hero in terms of getting early rotations done.
She's not going to go through the Twin Gates. She's farming her two slash three items with Falker Blade, Blink Dagger, and Nessau.
And then she wants to get active.
And Brewmaster, also a hero that kind of does want to sit in the lane, get something done, use the split, go back to farming, get the hand of Midas.
so they try to pick up that agonist center.
So never happened that now GpK does really have a hero to play with.
So for now, it's gonna be about delaying as much as possible.
Off-link game jumping in.
Walrus punch, snowball, but the blink out from Keratich is still gonna get it with the snowball.
Okay, Adagoffering gets committed.
If they don't pawns on the three of these heroes, they're gonna try and get themselves both support.
They'll look over at the Oracle, who will dive into the Echo Slash.
They're gonna balance on to Keratich, and they'll stick on him.
Getting not just him, but save as well. Mega kill streak for Mikkei, a double kill for the Keis once more, and this is 19-5 in favor of Liquid.
They're not done. They have no cooldowns whatsoever.
Even though you have a chaotic offering, you could still be going for fights on any side of the map.
Fiendscape is also a bit of a longer cooldown, but with Storm Spirit on the team, with Tusk you could just hunt them down and they are paired up.
Mikkei also being super active, involved in 11 out of 19 kills.
They've been hunting them down. As you said, they play some deep vision.
Look, I'm talking about the vision so much.
The movements from Liquid have just been on point.
It's been, I would say, the donut of vision and movements because I'm glazing it.
And this has just been liquid all-check boxes, just completely, completely checked off.
Balling it, they will find themselves the Oracle.
The Fox get turned on for a second, hit him out, he's gonna be thrown down on the three of these heroes.
Now they're pale in the arts, they get the kill of the Fox, they're gonna end up losing one.
But now Kevdov will be able to false promise himself and survive.
Tofu's dead too, GK's got a double, but he looks like he's gonna fall.
Ripping it away, gets away for Nisha, first second of the ball,
aiming to stick with him, another look over at Kirito,
just to see land the wheel of wonder,
they've got the damage coming out,
get the homies dead, make it false.
That's big hero damage coming in from Kirito,
trying to go for more.
They have the primal slip from the arrow,
the team of these Sata A's,
but the pit of Alice is keeping them away
from getting the damage,
they're on the other side,
getting the kill there,
they're looking for a full team wipe,
but can they get Nisha,
can they catch up to the storm?
No, they can't, but four heroes dead
on the side of Liquid,
that boom, it's about that time
where they start fighting back.
is this scripted. Like we're seeing it's three times in a row. Liquid completely
dumpsuring them in the laning stage, having a massive lead and then Bet Boom
pulling it back. This was the fight with Agatom, Scepter and Brewmaster and this
is basically level 3 ulti. So you're feeling quite a lot of damage and you
can't kill the Brewlings unless you can burst them down from 100 to 0, which
is not gonna happen because of this liquid courage, two saving supports
behind them. They're fighting underneath the vision. Bet Boom has the whole vision
with this high ground. It started really well. Nisha also fighting a bit of a
different fight here. Going for the supports, making sure that he's also
gonna be killing GPK and has Guardian Greaves ready but doesn't pop it on his
allies which allows them to kill Mikkei. Mikkei going for Miero. Bit of Alice.
Skateback, snowball going all the way to save. They'll get the kill to Miero.
They'll take out the brewmaster and now they'll find themselves in the tusk.
Box is gonna die to the purifying flames. Echo slaps GPK running away.
There's the ball landing from Nisha, but not gonna catch this ember
Jibacca is doing
Good amount of damage even though he is the lowest
Network score at the moment spirit vessel has casual Kaia and going into a BKB
I'll tell you one thing with the way that Beppu man fought back with the last two and a half minutes
It sure as hell does not feel like fucking eight percent chance
Definitely not as long as they can get the Bruce blip in a fight. They can be controlling them either
Use it on Kez, cause he's the most damage, or you can use it on Storm Spirit, and you can see Liquid itemizing immediately afterwards.
They need extra bit of protection, Mikkei going for the BKB, knowing that they have no BKB piercing tools,
except for some right-flex from Templar Assassin.
Gertich also catching up with Mikkei about to overtake him if he continues to farm up like this.
Hashtag just TA things.
Cause that, this Templar Assassin, the whole side of Beppu were basically getting shut out in this game.
Well, there's always that little bit of hope.
DKB next for Midgate. We'll see if that is the difference maker.
But man, they've always found a way to bring these games back and make these games long.
Boxy, he's going to stand on this higher ground. He's got a blink, so he'll be able to get away from these heroes on the side of BB Team.
Nisha just farming, but he's a hard hero to try and catch.
The look for the wheel of wonder, I say it's hard to catch now.
They've got him lost in the hypnotize of the wheel of wonder.
They hit the silence, they get the kill, and the arrows got that one.
Unstoppable streak taken away.
And it's like we're watching a replay of a replay in game number three.
We are back again.
Guys, 80-minute banger.
Mark it down on your calendar.
The look for Tofu that got the silence, the deso damage.
Yeah, it's gonna overwhelm your Tofu.
You can heal as many times as you like, but it's not gonna be enough.
save man he that's why he's having such high one percentage on the hero sitting
at 80% at Valakia the way he uses his spells skill was never missed like
every single time we will wonder hits you will see him use it tame the beast
as well and this is also pre Etherlands pre blink daggers so he's really
setting things up quite easily and it's only gonna get easier for him that's
That's right. Save so good, this hero. Impalement Arts, man. That is everything. The Ringmaster
to me, when you can play at the level of save, and obviously that's the best of the best,
it just feels like one of the most broken heroes out there. It offers so much. Heritage.
continuing to farm and this team getting together and looking to just maybe make a
comeback happen at about 27 minutes. The question is honestly when it's gonna
happen. It's not an if, it's a when. Look what's waiting for BKB and Kez and
and stores for it, he's, I think he's gonna keep this veil
and get nullifier first.
So he's getting sick and tired
of all these annoying spells that the supports can throw.
You're playing into a skate act,
solar crest, the ghost scepter now on Oracle,
fates eat it as well.
So when he decides to go on a target,
he wants to be able to kill that target from 100 to zero.
Beppu knew that Roche was up
but it spawned over bottom
it's gonna make its charge to top.
As we see, an adult Roshan go to top, make it set up for it, on the side of that boom
butt, liquid nearby, knowing that this timing is around.
Barolings are not going to die, Mero, like very close to his AC and also level 15 talent,
plus Aghanim Scepter, that's extra 600 HP to Barolings, so you can't really focus
them down.
Even a BKB, at boom they definitely feel fight ready.
Tirescan is going to connect, they know exactly where they are.
Amber are ready with the GP BKB and see how the fight goes.
Obcentric combo to get some vision over in the triangle, but they've got the smoke.
They're on the north side of the pit, really northwest.
And kind of waiting for Betboom to show themselves that this smoke breaks, she's
going to be alone.
That's exactly where it breaks.
But now they're jumping into the wall where he's supposed to go to the peace gate to get the kill, but no, they're forced to step away.
He's silenced, he's helped by Steve. They have the escape back, and that's gonna be this ringmaster.
He's trying to save the life of this devour assassin.
Raptor dance off to the side, still trying to get a kill here on the ringmaster.
They get the kill to save the wolves over the warlock.
Gbk doing what he can, Jobu ends up dead by that coming out from the ringmaster.
The chase is off the brew wings.
Miro goes back to form to get the kill to the pocky.
Liquid, it may be falling apart from them, they get the team that needs to hit the appeal, and Archbic is gonna be in trouble.
He's dead!
Guess God, he's taken out of the fight.
Get them out, does it get a matter?
There's the false promise, coming in from Captain OE,
and they'll find themselves this Underwater
who's just able to TP out.
But it is back to even again.
That boom, they win that fight like it's almost a...
Get this, be scripted, I mean, we're back here even again.
They're trying to focus down the Brule,
and support them getting their spells off.
You see Oracle on T, you see another box,
and they don't have enough.
Right now, Liquid, they are fighting as a unit
using the Crimson.
They didn't have pipe available in the previous fight, but they already used it.
And then, initially, good jump, Kiritage has Hurricane Bike ready, and then he manages to
force himself out.
Another good Wheel of Wanderer that keeps Team Liquid kind of away from where they want
to be taking that fight, and you see the supports, they're not dying immediately.
They're getting their spells off, Ringmaster comes in with the buyback, and at any time,
Miera with Agadamacenter, he can't cancel the ulti, and he comes out, so it might
not be the focus, especially if he gets the split off. They might need to change the focus.
They just continues to happen like that and save again the MVP for me on that fight because
he throws that wheel of wonder but immediately knows his mission is save Kiritich. Get him
into the escape act, give him a moment longer to just survive in this fight and that's what he
does and that's one of the ways that they do end up winning this one. 17,000 top of the
Worth but still it is a net worth lead for liquid. They've got themselves a very farmed kez the
Availability is there for liquid to take these fights. It's just they got to worry about this ring master
Now that he bought back if you can get a pick off on save you're gonna feel so good coming into the next VMAs
And they will have better vision for the next fight. Nisha did finish off his she was guard
So he can provide vision the healing is not gonna be as much
But having pretty much 3 slash 4 aura's, she was guarded as well, 2 available on ace, 2 on Nisha.
Foxy can't get the second round of spells, this is one of the issues that he did have in the second game as well.
Doesn't have a way to reset. He would love to have maybe a second snowball, maybe the second wall response.
Choose where you want to be taking the fight with the eye shards.
The arrow, first point of contact.
Nisha's in, beans gain immediately.
They're gonna try and come over, but the BKBs can pop it.
GVKB's got the route, it's on Nisha,
and now they've got themselves the pit of Malice,
but isn't gonna lock down these heroes.
GVKB, the damage coming in from the kez.
Now, Walrus punch all up into the air,
Karrot takes block up via the shards,
and he's putting the damage on the ace.
They've got the primal split,
they've got the route, now they look for the wheel.
One, two, three, two, three, two,
Nisha's in trouble, they'll look for the storm,
they'll get the kill.
He's got 70 seconds without buyback boxes.
He's gonna be next.
the fortunes that comes in and palminar's land on the ace.
The chase is on to get the kill on the Underlord
under the tier two tower.
He's got the low to sort of that real foot to stun,
but it won't matter.
Carrotage with a double kill.
Three heroes down on the side of Liquid.
They just are not falling off on Bedboom
even with some of these heroes being soloed out.
They are doing oh so well in these fights.
They're boosting themselves up as well.
They are filling themselves in this game.
Amiero doing quite a lot of work.
Yuzuki split immediately,
knowing that he can't really die
having two supports behind him,
having extra bit of status resistance.
If he drops below 50% HP and he's controlling the fight,
he's the one who is tossing Kez into the air,
not allowing it to get anything done.
Mikkei didn't really deal as much damage.
Let's see if his damage numbers, 900.
Only 900 damage from Mikkei,
because he used Cyclone on top of him
and Mikkei didn't even use a BKB,
he did not wanna commit to that fight.
A Raptor Dancer really doesn't really connect on much
and then you see the Cyclone here
meeting that Kiritich can not only come over
to the top of the fight,
but he can join in with this wheel of wonder,
get the kill in Anisha, and look towards the rest.
And with no damage coming up in the Kes,
they're just not afraid from diving in.
Fatal bonds placed on a couple of these heroes,
but they just don't have anything to follow it up.
Tier two top, that's gonna be in trouble.
They should be able to get it with ease.
Nobody coming over to try and fight back on this.
Keratich now really extending himself
from the rest of the pack.
Miro, he definitely recovered.
He had such a bad start,
but does have a handle of minus.
He did have 75 GPM enchantment and now holding onto 100 GPM enchantment.
Selling it was 80, it was 92% that's right, I said 8%.
92% is insane!
And now all of a sudden it's 68% the other way.
They have...
Oh gosh, that was quick!
It's much easier for them to take the fight, they can go in, have two saving supports behind them,
knowing that they are tanky enough not to get bursted immediately.
Ember's Spirit goes in with the BKB with AC pick up on a brewmaster as well first.
Kind of boosting the damage of Temporal Assassin, but also removing some of the damage coming up from Kez,
removing some of the damage from the Storm Spirit,
because he still deals good amount of right click damage as well, protecting the supports,
and seems like they're ready to go for the high ground.
Daedalus now completed on Kiritich.
Question is, can they do this?
They've got the Aegis for another 40 seconds, they're going to look to break the high ground.
Break the high ground.
And we've seen this stong and dance before.
They're looking to split push a little bit.
They'll send the Brewing's top.
It's gonna be saved.
They've got the Glyph.
There's the Cyclone on the Under Ward.
This Tier 3 Tower top is gone.
BKB picked up for Keratich at the same time.
Nisha, he's sitting top to cut this creep wave.
And also pick himself up some Lotuses.
He's looking for Nullifier Scotty.
Blink. Look at the Omi to try and get in position to help with the false promises. Fates, edX.
Keep people alive.
With Nullifier the fight might be different. Mikkei has one available and they're going
to immediately smoke up. Looking for a fight knowing that Aegis did just disappear. Smoke
might connect. GPK might go into that direction. And it does. They are immediately going
there. Can they find GBK? Can they jump him? They'll have to blink as well as the
wall, especially gotta be quick. There it is! Snowball followed up and got some
science to get the kill out of the ever. That all starts. As the tusk says, hi my
name is Boxy and I will lock you down to get the kill. With the level 10
talent, extra 0.75 seconds. All response stun duration allows him to
hold the snowball slightly longer then he gets the snowball stun and damage is
definitely there now they could go and take another tormentor.
Boxi, if you get about buying the drone shard I really hope that he gets it and he does
because that's gonna allow him to get a defensive tool like one item and that's
gonna be you'll center and holding on to greedy so eventually Boxi will start
to scale. He had a bit of the same issue in the second game where he for a
For a long time he didn't have that item, he didn't have that 4 staff that he was looking for in the end opted to go for the Shadow Blade,
but once the Shadow Blade was completed you could see that Linkwood never hunting them down, deepening with the Thinker.
Same thing might happen here, just allowing Boxy to get the second round of spells might be crucial.
Fighting around these aura's that they have as well.
Mekke with the Nullifier, form very close to his.
So double Nullifier against both of these supports.
I think both of them need to be able to get the jump on the back lines and then deal with the rest.
Deal with the escape back, deal with anything that's going to really make their life difficult in getting these kills.
One of the reasons you had talked about it in the mirror was coming back, he's got this Midas,
but he's also gone into the tier 3 Greedy as well.
So he's got Sigmund with the Greedy, he's getting a lot more gold, he's got Blink, Agz, Midas and AC.
Like he is getting super far.
He's getting a refresher in the next couple of minutes Jesus.
So they can go in and slow siege. They can split, they can use
couple of attacks from Templar Assassin, two saving supports behind them with AC. It's gonna be a lot of damage.
But first time, like when you think about it, this item makes a lot of sense in these situations where you need to jump the backlines.
What if that the best hero other than Spectre maybe to close the gap, find the supports in the backlines?
but Spectre unfortunately is not a hero at the moment.
But let us surprise that this is the first time that we are seeing this item being purchased.
I want to see if this time Kiritich goes for the Meld Bash or the Refraction instances.
I assume it's going to be back to the Refractions.
He's to level 23, he's almost at 25.
Obviously that is a big jump, 23 to 25, he's almost at 24.
See how that goes.
Shrine picked up.
by Mickey he's trying to get experience under his belt there's a shrine available back here
it's just he's gonna take himself because he wants damage he wants dataless
so this will be
even game 35 minutes in we're only a fourth of the way through this one
Just getting ready, entering the mid-game fights right now, 35 minutes in, Roshan is guaranteed to respawn in 15 seconds.
I bet we know that. Third eye.
So if you're searing chains on a 3, Kirito jumps in though, but now, Mikae...
He's stuck with the shards!
The shards are in a great spot for, well, Beppu, as they're trying to retreat.
It was not that well placed from this toss, go get the Kodanisha, they'll end up losing the arrow.
It's a 1 for 1, but the shards of his own ally blocked Mikae out.
Beppu, a sigh of relief seeing that. Good shards for Beppu.
Keratich also not committing too heavily. He still has this 9 second DKB, but Mikkei doesn't have his.
This might be what sways the match up in this one, and Roshan is now available.
Rumasser did pick up Refresher, meaning that he doesn't have buyback available. That's going to be long 40 seconds.
Already divine territory as we're looking at Keratich. He has that queued up.
Reset that they need extra bit of courage. What happened in the previous one felt like they could have ended it a long time ago
And the heritage seems to have the same mindset
Roche on Roars and
They'll get the goal for 150 gold to get more towards Kiritage and the Divine Rave here, but they pick some of the Daedalus
It's time they need to watch out with the shards as he'll look to jump in
Shards don't over on the Roche gonna block their path from jumping in unless they blink
up people sending these fiends over these mini-golms.
Kalmodar's hit two, searing chains, pins on to ace.
Bet you they're gonna have to try and go for ocean, they want it,
but the wheel of wonder is there, they've stayed too long,
they're gonna get hypnotized on ace.
And so the look for the damage with Karran's ace is soaking up a lot of it.
The up people is down again, they don't get any kills,
but they do get themselves the ages back into the hands of this Templar assassin.
So they have cheese, they have refresher, they have banner ready.
Let's see how they're going to approach the fights now.
Primal split coming off cooldown, Kiritich didn't use his BKB.
I think it's time to go and slow siege, use one of the Primal Splits.
You have another one ready, Blinken, split, and just go from there because again they're
going to be having some of the issues playing into fatal bonds, playing into shards that
are going to slow them down, pit of malice and firestorm.
So they need to find a way how to address this issue.
It's gonna be a tough issue to address.
And he actually went Melbash. Damn. Okay.
So, heritage.
Divine is far from being picked up, but by the end of his ages, he should have a gold.
We'll see. Liquid.
How can they defend against this?
Network wise, it's pretty close.
But overall,
this is when they're gonna have their most courage.
Although I say this it took seven roaches to get the last game done. I don't even know if Aegis is enough to
Give them the
It's a farming Aegis, okay?
Now I could see Keratix trying to risk it and pick up Divine Rapier
Sell his power treads
Put the BKB in the backpack and then go from there
Because if they win the fight inside the base, I could see them winning the game off of that
But there are no buybacks available on all three cores on liquid.
They probably don't have that read yet, but...
Misha does have buyback.
Buybacks are not as plentiful, but are half there over all in the game.
Sometimes games end with everybody having buybacks, sometimes there's buybacks available
and you lose the game.
see as they smoke. Where will they wrap around to? They wrote this C on the map to try and
maybe wrap towards the triangle of the dire side. Nietzsche might be the one that cuts
them off. He's looking for that agonist scepter to get that blue hull. So the fifth steering
chain is melt, waiting to still have the bash. There's the wheel of wonder. Nietzsche
is in trouble. Balling needs to get out of the wheel of wonder but they find themselves
The Warlock, they're gonna get the shot at Toad from Beanstay, moving forward.
Mckay getting controlled, gonna be control on to GPK.
But Mckay, Garnier Priest gets popped by Esha still.
They have the control, the BKB's gonna be popped by Mckay, so they'll go to the Ravens.
They're gonna continue on looking for this Keth.
Mera, he wants more.
He might have the damage, but there's the grappling call, the Cyclone out of the tusk.
The chase is on for Ace, he's got the low to storm, and they'll disengage just losing the Warlock.
Mckay had to use his BKB in the previous fights.
That's all that's going to be in favor of Bedboom Team Kiritich, still holding onto his 9th second BKB
and also no BKB used from GPK.
Ramos Flick going to be on a slightly longer cooldown. He did not go for 20 talent that gives him minus 15 seconds instead
wants to have extra bit of damage
Which he still does a lot when you have fire brawler stance
You are right clicking for quite a lot of damage with this AC
2-0, BOTS in GPKB.
An X being built for GPKB.
There's that tier 2 tower that is, in fact, the last outer tower for Liquid.
This is the hard part.
Coming up on the high grounds.
Walrus Punch and Palmon Arts that lands on an ace. They've got the shards that block them out.
Analysis there, rednip forward and they're looking at his heritage.
He's trying to stand tall, he's got himself the false promise.
He's just in trouble, they'll lose the Underwarder will they?
He gets it, he's away from GBK, puts down the pit of Alus once again, he's still alive.
Finally falling, but it took a lot to get that kill with the BKBB and Popeye, GBK.
Garenchage backs out.
They just get the Underward for now, they need to get the tier 3 award to high ground,
but they've got the Spanner still continuing to keep these creeps healthy.
Mero, you're a professional for that one.
You heard about split push, but what about the primal split push?
Looking for it, four techs back, trying to get the kill out of the TA, they got the Aegis, that's something, now, Snowball, Nisha, out of the back line, trying to get on top of this Oracle, but they've got the escape back there, going to look back towards the base, they've got themselves the dust blow, but the damage coming in to Carrotage, he'll melt strike, he's got the stun on the Mickey, Mickey trying to survive as this kid's carrying with the BKB, he silenced the grappling claw, the damage Carrotage does, it takes out Mickey, who's got five back available, but they're going to kill him, it's going to be Nisha who gets 90 cent of mana, he's trying to rumble the searing chains with the Remnant forward, that will get the lock down from GBK.
The arrow dead with Byback to get a buyback on the case.
They'll start to retreat to the side of the Batmobile,
caretention about on the high ground.
Do they want to jump for this?
Foxy off to the side, looking for a moment to go in.
They start to back off, but will they commit
to leaving this base?
Oh, they gave Carrotitch Refresher as well,
so he has another BKB if he wants to decide
to jump in and refresh that.
But two buybacks, two take ones.
Ball lightning, no fire,
but they're jumping into the portions
and the Impelment Arts are gonna be there.
The Echo Slush are gonna be used.
They got the no fire, so the silencer,
the BKB is gonna be used here
by the Templar Assassin. Glimmer keeping Nisha out of vision, out of sight, out of mind.
With the ball lightning in, looks over, GPK was there!
He's got the steering change, trying to control him!
Nihiro coming with the ball.
And now he's got the kill, and Nisha no, he's giving the ball lightning away!
Mikkei with the raptor dance, no he's gonna be silenced by the trap that was laid down with the shard.
Now the raptor dance comes down, Mikkei, hit him out, locked down, there it is, raised!
Trying to chase GPK, but he's gotta be KB, he'll TP out.
Ball lightning looking for more, trying to get their hands on Nihiro, who looks for the squid, he gets it off!
He's still not gonna die, they got the kill to caretich as well, save!
Bullying for Misha looking for more but this hero is split the arrow. He's gonna try and survive
He bought back for this one. He bought back body box from ace just trying to get a play onto these brew wings
He's waiting. They are just waiting for him to come back to form
But they've got the cycle out of the case
It's not gonna be long enough good and they get the blink away as he can
But can he get away completely? Misha looking for the lock down gets the vortex. No hold on to the brew after they get
The kill he's gone for a hundred
That's a buyback from the arrow. So he's gone for a really long time
Let's see how much damage up to the building as they can do. They do have this so available
Underlord as well sitting at 300 plus damage right now
It's going down pretty quickly. Oh, man, and that's your 218 for ace now
They're all ones up out of the high ground but guys wait a minute. We're 15 minutes away from 16
Don't take it again.
GPK trying to hold so they don't have to buy back
on these heroes on Bat Boom,
but we have seen this before.
You might wanna come into the buyback at times.
It's your tournament life on the line.
Not just one center-acts, but it's gonna be two.
Divide right here.
No buyback now, they're going for broke.
I think it's time. I think they have to but look at this damage coming up from liquid 45 seconds without brew master
You're kind of how you're playing against a decrease unless you blip and they do they finally glyph
CAs back up to find rapier in the hands of the temp are assassin. They don't know about this divine
Damage
Okay, focusing his attention on Ace.
The look over at these golems,
he just picked up the axe, it's gonna be double golem.
Side of this, trying to get the stun onto this,
but he's able to escape.
They got the kids, got for two,
and they hold against potential mega creeps.
They have one more building up in their base.
It's a ranged barracks, 400 HP.
They need to risk it.
Let's see, Roshan, 22 seconds.
They know about the respawn timer,
and everybody, they are keeping it.
Let's see what the call is for that new boxy.
No, caught in a bad position with no buyback.
He's managed to get out.
Oh, Boxie, you are a god!
No remnants available, Miero.
He kinda wants, he can refresh and try to kill him,
but doesn't want to risk it.
And now, he's got it.
Fiend's Gate and gets the Megas.
This is gonna be a problem.
Playing against the Megacreeps with these heroes.
Ember's not really good at dealing with them.
Vader is Brewmaster.
The only hero that they do have is Templar Assassin.
And they need to take this Roshan.
need ages for their divine carrier. He's got BKB. He's got buyback as well. Does he zip
in? Does he try to go for this? He's got buyback. Does he want to give it a thought? Doesn't
seem like he wants to go. He wants to pick up floatuses instead. They are playing against
mega creeps. Wheel of Wonders is going to start this one off. Save again.
Yeah, maybe.
Ah, okay.
Yeah.
Ah, there we go.
Ah, 30 minutes, I can only answer.
That was quick. I like the high and low.
Like, can we get Megas and then...
Oh.
I'm dead. I'm just dead.
And it's so calm.
It's not tilted out or anything of the sort.
Gotta keep your head on straight to get to the grand finals of this tournament.
And then again, we'll get an update as it's 81% in favor of liquid again. They had it as high as 92
Random numbers that I'm seeing on screen doesn't matter. You know, they don't
I mean even the time is a random number because once it's above 60, then I care
Double blocks now available on bed boom. They want to be pushing out these lanes one available on brewmaster one
One ember spirit T8 can push one of these lanes, but they as we said are gonna be struggling a little bit
Dealing with mega creeps. Double greater lotuses on the storm. These mega creeps. How do you
deal with them? Especially if you're willing to leave the base. These creep leaves are
at about halfway down your lane. You need to be careful because the time, if the fights
take too long, you are going to lose your base. You have 5 acts available on 4 of
these heroes on the side of Batboom, but if you lose the Divine Rapier, it's...
Okay!
Oh!
Tofu, two shots, eh!
Get that kill.
Onto Warlock, Karatich, just shoving off the damage.
And then immediately GPK realizing they've been out of the base for a little bit too
long, they gotta go back.
Somebody gotta fix those lanes immediately with Sheeva's Guard.
Yeah, you can see some of the issues. They do have boots of travel available
But also they're gonna be fighting against underlord sieging the high ground. You're playing against us fatal bonds as well
You see you go in 20% like oh he went for a DPS around fiendscape. All right
I think like what they are prepping potentially to go in and maybe end the game just kill the throne because I'm seeing the
different level 25 on underlord we have seen this kind of fight before last
game was ended by Beppu ignoring the heroes and going for the naked throne
and it like you said is setting up to potentially be the same way it's a it's
a lot of DPS that you have just by sitting close to twin gates that you
are fighting with the shards slowing them down
They don't malice as well, level 20 talent, it's level 15 talent, so 20% more slow, you're
sitting inside, maybe upheaval as well, post BKB the fights are quite difficult still for
them because they know that they can keep them around, around the twin gate, around
those fiends gates. And Nisha was starting with the idea of getting the agatem scepter
but does have hex available now.
Riddling using that bottle so he's going to put that null fire back in.
Yeah, which just wants to have that instant lock down.
Could be big. They could start with that hex.
She's trying to jump out of the high ground. There's the hex. It started off. They got
the pig Alice down. Warrish punch followed up. They got the lock down on the
Temporal sensitivity is trying to get away. He hasn't had Aegis, but now False Promise keeps him alive.
Esha going towards the bottom where they've got the Bruins on the primal split trying to take those Buildings down to the bottom lane,
but the Curitich, False Promise, not going to beat up, so he ends up popping.
Then, Alus is there. They're still continuing to control these Bruins. He's got to get back to form.
He's got to try and refresh and get there again for the Hex out from Esha.
The Wheel of Wander comes through with the weekend. He's going to be popping.
Esha Miero's going to be dead for 85. No buyback.
Save might be next. Goes up into the high grounds.
Well, they won't be cushioned by the Yul's, they'll get a kill with the walrus punch
He's got buyback and now gvk's gonna be able to TP out
They need to clean up these creeps that are coming into the base
They try to get what they could but they'll leave with one less hero with buyback and one less hero with buyback
18 seconds till brew has it though
Liquid they have no tier 3 towers left. They have open barracks
So they're trying to split them up a little bit
But you also need to take the fight you your creams are also not as strong as liquids
So now liquid. Let's see. Maybe they want to push it. Maybe get some buybacks out of the system
buybacks on their side available on pretty much
three heroes boxy is
Just gonna have enough gold, but yeah, I don't might have to farm it. Yes is the one who doesn't have it
He invested all of his gold into the Satanic, trying to have that pseudo-second life.
If he can get the damage away.
Closing in on 60, 52 minutes into the game, aligning in and pushing these creeps.
Esha, he's got that Hex, two heroes dead with Viva.
But such short timers that they're really trying their hardest not to use them.
Esha will bail from the base.
It means they'll respawn without using these buybacks.
Rube bought out a little bit, so he's actually short the buyback again.
This is looking like we could be at that timing where we might hit 60.
Three game series, all 60 minutes, I don't know when the last time that happened was.
just 60 these were like 70 plus minute games 76 and 83 minute game
sheesh
that is a lot of time to be playing and watching and observing and producing
Dota and whoever's gonna be playing against Yandex in the grand finals
they're gonna use that hour pretty tiring playing these three very long
games and now you potentially have to play another five another five hour
in half games. Oh GPK! Oh my carrier! Somebody pay attention! Oh god! Oh my agonies! At this
point I would just buy another point booster and sell the one. So much more worth. How tight
has this net worth been for the last like 10, 15 minutes.
It's this heart rate graph,
but it does feel like we're constantly just going back
and forth on the net worth.
The highest was 11,000,
and then it jumped back down to 4,000,
and it's been in that tight range ever since.
Some idols of Skriak available for Liquid
and two for Bet Boom.
Trying to have that movement speed
to leave from these fights and get a better positioning if things start to go awry.
Put a 5% evasion, very good when you're playing against Temporal Assassin.
Yeah, back in the days, Divine Rapier did give True Strike.
He has a bit of a True Strike with Seratid Shiv.
So that's something.
Back in my day.
Why'd you look at me like that?
I didn't.
Roche, let's see what this extra timer is.
I'm gonna call it now, two and a half minutes.
Because this game knows that they want 60 minutes.
We all chat, you guys want 60 minutes.
I know you do.
If you were a crowd, you'd be roaring.
But just roar from home, if you think.
And nailed it.
Almost full three minutes.
It's too easy.
It really is too easy
This was the one that he had queued up, but I did not see him finish it. So I got a sector
Yeah, it's not the one that you usually see you have faith delay invisibility and you get 30%
Bonus spell day like this has to be one of the weirdest eggs and you have reduced base attack time. So a
Bit of a more DPS that you're gonna be getting during the false promise
GPK really waiting out that career
Not investing the extra what would end up being 600 gold
He knows when Roshan is respawning. No need to rush anything. Yeah
Liquid might be trying to put the stopper on that though by how pressured they are forward and maybe looking to kill
bit boom before that Roche happens but they are pressured here expecting Roche
to be a little bit of an earlier spawn spoilers guys it's not unfortunate for
you guys spoiler alert this game is not gonna end for another 20 minutes go
grab a drink get some snack hydrate exactly because it feels like we are
going into that 60 70-minute territory again a missile blade again picked up
with ace I see what he decides to swap out whether it's gonna be treads
Seems like he wants to get rid of pipe
Hey, did a good pipe good did a good job pipe now. It's time to upgrade for a better item. Yeah, sorry. I don't smoke anymore
Go to the abyssal
Have that lockdown and then
Well, it acts also picked up for GPK
So he's got that upgrade there too and that could be pretty relevant as he picks up a hex or looks to pick up a hex
Still just one divine
It's disappointing that we'd get more. Such an early divine.
I was scared that with the early divine this game was going to end earlier.
That's not happening.
Everybody's got buybacks, but the underlord, he's just 30 gold short, so it will be 10 buybacks available.
Is Tia doing that thing where they hold gold for buyback and divine? Not currently.
But last game we saw 13,000 gold held up.
Now we're three minutes away from tier 5. Roche, 15 seconds away from Roche, mambo number 5.
If Liquid has vision and they do on the high ground, once they start Roche, they could maybe go
for a play with Twin Gate, by Twin Gate, I mean Fiends Gate, and try to put pressure for them
to TP out and then they can also try to get out of it. We'll see how they approach it
for now, camping the high ground.
Roshan, A is gonna be on dire side.
Don't hold the high ground there,
OBS will time out because they haven't done anything for the last 15 minutes,
so it'll now be placed again there.
They'll have that vision and immediately it'll be taken away.
Gem on GPK, there's another ward to take away there in the row,
side of Fist, there's an agent, I was stacked!
I actually got the kill.
Wow! Put him out, he's down.
And a Bissell? Uh, GPK?
He got the last hit. He got the banner.
Oh, lost the gym. Not the best trade.
Doesn't have 5-8.
Pailman arts, they go to the Hex. It's going to be through onto the storm.
They've got the Hit and the Ties, but the wheel of wonder.
They're starting to retreat. They didn't buy back on GPK.
Just yet with them all ending in, trying to get a kill and a save.
A skate back, stopping that GP. He's moving forward.
There's the Nola fire, as well as the Hex once again on a save.
They'll get the kill there. He's got buyback.
I said 10 buybacks. They're all available
There's amplified damage there. Do we want to see Mickey pick it up?
He's the one holding the ages
Daedalus, Satanic, all the red items, all the damage items available on Mickey
Can they end pre-60? They've got this Aegis
But if you see the Aegis pop, they might retreat pretty quickly. There's just
Two tier fours in a throne remaining in this base for Betboom. A chance. One slot left at the grand final.
Who's gonna take it as we reach another hour?
Refresher shard.
For Nisha, they stole the roaches banner.
Magnum scepter coming in for Nisha. All response with the damage. Trying to go for caretich. There's the Paul's promise.
That saves him. Golems trying to get the base.
They go to the primal split, and the arrow's gonna be choosing to go after Tofu for the moment.
But these golems were taken out pretty quickly, pretty easily.
And there's a smoke.
And they're gonna scan from Liquid on the low ground, looking to sneak into the base one more time.
They still are holding onto this Aegis for three and a half minutes.
Brulings will come back to form. They didn't buy back on the Ember.
They have no refresher, so this is primal split on cooldown for another 100 seconds.
One of the parts that is keeping the arrow alive and keeping this fight difficult for the side of Liquid.
But with no primal split that could be a big issue.
Searing chains, they go to the hex, they've got the damage from the mouth strikes coming in, they blew up Nisha!
They get the kill and now they will for more!
The wheel of one of the ethno-strikes doing a lot of damage but not gonna be enough just yet!
The tier four still stand, they'll go for the toss and they'll get themselves a second!
Boxing gone!
And just on time, ding ding ding, we're into 60 minutes, the late game has been achieved!
We're back! The hour mark, we're here again!
Same, getting the clutch hex there, and they have no saves yet.
They see that box is trying to build into Wind Waker just for this situation where somebody
gets initiated on.
Still far away from it, needs to have buyback available, and they did not want to commit
again.
Tier 5's one more time.
Guys, did you get your water?
Did you get your snacks when we told you 15 minutes ago?
We were inevitably going to get here.
I promise, and I don't break promises.
This is now I think we're I feel like we're just sitting at a point where it's gonna be two minutes
The ages gonna expire. We've all got our tier fives. We're gonna wait for next roche
I'm not gonna promise 70 minutes, but it feels like it. Yeah, best I could do is 65
Yeah
Gonna go get my hour-long game guy expert, which is currently us and these two teams
MKB picked up for Mikkei, but he is full on slots because he's holding on to a greater healing lotus and a cheese.
So the MKB will slot in for the BKB while he's got that Aegis.
Couple of Lotuses can be picked up. They could make a block of cheese now.
now. Audacious, rift shadow prism for Curitich. Audacious, Stygian desolator
phrase. Guys hitting hard. Take a look at some of the other ones as they've got the...
well that's the only tier 5's currently. Oh no, they've got a Book of the Dead on
Mickey. Delphu? That fleet-footed one. Let's see if Delphu's gonna replace his
Cobalt cup with the tier 5 neutral on he three shadow prisms I need to get a
little bit more insight on this item I'll be honest I think it's a good way
to bait it really is it's all about that you get the initial jump maybe you
show exactly where you're standing it gives you to get that the blink
initiation as well from ringmaster who by the way went into the wise enchantment
So he's looking for the extra thousand experience per minute to get to level 25
We'll see what he takes then are we gonna look for the extra wheel radius and range or are we looking this time for the strong to spell and flying?
That feels like you're just giving an enchantment to a creature magic. I'll give you strong to spell and flying
Here you go
That one seems overall better like having a dispel mechanic against the silences against fatal bonds bit of ballast
All these annoying things if you can throw that onto your carry, but they also need to precast nullifier
You're playing against ring master. You become untargetable. So
Gotta be aware of that
Agents fire
Potentially see you guys in a little bit while Roche is now two and a half. I'll add the extra timer already five minutes away
It's going to be a while.
I will say I'm impressed by the Divine Rapier staying in the hands of the Templar Assassin
for this long.
This might be the longest-held Divine.
This was bought long ago.
And Akku has not been able to get his hands on this Divine Rapier.
Has another one queued up, saving for Buyback at the moment.
His Buyback probably around 5000 gold.
4,000 at the moment, slightly above.
Three and a half minutes till all the buybacks are back because Steve's still missing his.
We do love getting to these points in the game where we get 10 buybacks available.
And we sit in this weird spot by the triangle and we think,
let's go in! I'm not in your room! I'm in your room! I'm not in your room!
I'm not in your base! And it's just, eventually,
They just focus fire and get the throne, but this time it may not be so easy.
There still are two-tier force.
So it's not as simple as the naked throne that we saw in the last game.
They always have the ability to go in and take the fight with fiendscape.
Once they leave the base, a couple of boots of travel is available, but liquid, let's
say.
stops their TP's they always have fiends gate and the play to go in and try to end the game
they always have it but whether or not they'll use that lifeline and go for that
attempt is a question that we are yet to get answered double book of dead and double stigian
and desolator on liquid.
Zoom minus armor meta.
Liquid, oops, side of his steering chains,
then they got the heck of going,
heritage two shot tofu, see you later.
Micky, these Ravens failing and trying to run
or thinking about running as they might go in
because he's just gonna come through
and won't get kept on me.
It's gonna be disarmed and then the null fire was on him
but they have a reaction coming up from Chief of K
that go to the fiend's grid, date.
And now the primal split,
They've gotten the locked up with the blower's punch coming in onto the Templar assassin.
They're doing the damage when he's down to half health.
He's trying to survive back there.
He's life-saving.
He's still alive!
I can't believe it!
The phone promises there!
Cut the homie, the MVP!
He keeps alive the Templar assassin!
The snowball that killed A's as well as making it got the kills to try and take
him out.
I don't understand how courage is just still alive.
They get the kill of the Jofu!
They just cut the homie out.
He's got no buyback.
The snowball's going to stun him.
They find the son, send a GVK.
They're going to kill him in the effort.
He's still alive, they get the kill and the tofu!
They just cap the only out, he's got no buyback.
There will be no first aid, they find the son,
instead of GBK they get the kill and the ever.
He's got buyback there too, but Karrotich
left all alone, all blue, they're here.
You can't drive this divine rapier,
you know whatever rapier you want to get.
You need to get a courier out there
to get the second one, you've got the buyback gold,
you've got 17,000 gold, help done.
Okay, off to the side, GBK is here,
he'll get the double kill and the extra press,
you know what I'm saying,
he's got himself a buyback as well!
So GBK he bought back,
the skate back is gonna be there for safe.
They're going for the throw.
The throne's going to be exposed.
Can't they get the victory?
They've got to put him out.
Down there is the cliff.
Liquid, they need to be careful.
They've got two golems on it.
They're too many creeps, too many golems, and a hero.
The base, he's being helped out by Nisha.
Nisha holding TA away.
Liquid have done it.
They've got it again.
Hour and six minutes in.
Oh man, crazy game.
Boxie stopped these DP, so he couldn't come in.
And then Nisha just controlling them in the back lines
that you'll set their snowball, sponges.
Look at this guy, the MVP.
He's got the muscle to hold down the TA.
They didn't kill the TA.
They let him stay alive, and they just
continued to control him.
They made sure that the guy who could get you away
from mega creeps and the golems and everything
just was not available.
Liquid, with that, they're going to the grand finals,
and we're going to send it to the panel.
This is a hell of a series.
What the hell?
I mean, obviously you can see the disappointment etched on Beth Booms faces, but I'll tell you what, you play the hell of a series, like you've contributed to one of the best series I've seen.
Certainly, it might be the series of the year.
I mean, it usually isn't the tension for series of the year.
Like, the fact that both teams are giving it their all, there's the ups and downs, both teams had moments to be able to win out any single game that you can talk about here.
And then when you think about the late game, I was talking about how once you get past 50 minutes
You're looking at the players creativity even boxy and Nisha holding this TA hostage
But not allowing it to get back to the base not killing her just like dangling her in the mid lane like oh, you're going nowhere
You're staying right here. And not alone is another thing to win out a game. So yeah liquid just
Proving that they are they have all the might in them
They've had multiple games in this lower bracket that has you know, I think you made an excellent point to you in the
sense that maybe this hasn't been the cleanest, most technical version of liquid we've seen.
They've definitely had some throwy plays, but they're still very cerebral. They're always
thinking.
And I'd love to quickly jump on that as we see the clips here, right? The fact that
Liquid, after such an incredible lead, decided with like a 90% win probability, they threw
their Tusk and Mork into multiple fights, specifically the two, in which they did
not fight with Micky. If they brought Micky into the engagement, if they waited
Just a tad I do feel that liquid should be winning this game in around 35 minutes
Maybe 40 we need to entertain the second motion, but because of some early aggression not utilizing your 10s
It did create this wonderful game. So no complaints liquid
I got to watch a great game of Dota, but you got to clean up a bit of this like
18 to 20 minute mark. Yeah, you guys actually that's the same game in a row
We've been seeing the same thing from liquid
It's like they're walking through streets and they're leaving trash everywhere because I don't know like what's going on in these games
Like there's a lot of cool plays to like save. He found a lot of clutch plays
I would say to like overall like get them back into it
This was one of the most deciding fights for effort. Okay bedroom. They are coming back like liquid go for this John
They don't clutch out a T. I kill, you know care attention gets to pike way look at their supports
You're safe running up. You've got the only running down. They're like getting to split them very nicely
They use so much to kill save but then he gets to buy back and here it's again
It's the liquid second rose like it just respond why aren't like you can look for a cleaner play in the earlier
you're down 10k here you were down 6k now you're blundering making stuff happen
but again I want to like credit bedroom for like being in these positions to make
the comeback like they have the word set up they are here together they
understand okay we can put safe in the front he can go for the comeback I mean
I lost count of how many times these two guys threw the like the game back to
each other's like nope you have the lead nope give it back to me like even
here heritage blinked in to like melt bash I think boxy while the
like Kessbot back, they have no brewmaster then.
He goes for the buyback, he's nearly buyback
in the clip on the truth.
Like this series had, it had more than everything.
I'm sure that the style there for like longest series,
probably, I mean, this year has to be up there, right?
Maybe in the history of the night,
had all three games of the best of three,
like this has to have some record,
you know, cemented in a great game.
My God, then like two, so,
but like before this,
like we missed the clip where Nick,
Because Liquid after the other clip that just happened, they got Megas.
Like they win one fight and they run down mid lane and Bedboom again, they had Bivyx available.
Saves could have bought back, NTA could have bought back, but Kiritage was like,
you can have Megas, I will have a Divine Rape here.
I don't know if I love this trade, like if I'm gonna be honest.
Art of the deal.
Like, yeah, Art of the deal, he just gets it.
But then you know, like they're like, okay, we play against Megas and then they merely make it work.
Like, what is this? Is this an anime battle? Like Bro just, you know,
This final episode, they clutched it up with the lifesteal on the TA but it was on top of that
Katerin with the buyback, repositioning himself, getting back into the fight to give the false promise onto the Temporal Assassin.
Like, BB, they were leaning on so many little touch moments but it was just a little too late for them, liquid.
They had the heroes that when you get to this minute mark of the game, you expect them to be able to win out a teamfight, right?
But, ah, God.
Yeah, I thought I could breathe for a second now.
Other words who like all of these games are just so crazy like even here
There's like an Oracle acts you don't see it too often like there's a base attack time reduction in here
This is where you talk about it
Like I would love to know the communication right now because this has to be between like boxing nature someone saying guys
Go and the game we got them like but yeah, it's just yeah
What what a what a game of Dota 2 and to try and put it back into?
Realistic analysis for a second. They would love
Yeah, yeah, fun with that. Take that one. Yandex over to you. Yandex even with a standing looks like the most stable team here
Right at the top three
I would like to see liquid have some type of discussion about how they want to be a bit more stable in the game because as much as
Boxie is the standout player for the epicness of a 66 minute kiting on a temporary assassin
He also could have been the standout player for his early aggression that gave BB to come back into the game
Right, so we got to see the extremes of boxies play style in this game the great and the bad
So that window for me is like liquid. They need to clean that up if they want to try and drive away and that's what that's what you
Want high-risk high-reward gaming, baby
100% you're getting that like also like in the finals later like after liquid play this years
They'll try to clean it up a little bit
Maybe think like blitz must be saying guys when second row transforms turn your brain on stop going to like the weirdest place on
The map and throw your lives away, you know be normal. How about that be normal? Well got some good news
We're going to hear from Boxy now and unlike that series.
Let's see if we can get through this interview without a hiccup.
Absolutely. Yep.
We are here with Boxy from who some are saying it's the most incredible series series of the year
already granted.
It's pretty early in the year, but is that how you feel coming out of that one?
Yeah, as a viewer, I guess I feel like every game we threw a lot and the game
were super long.
So the quality of Dora was not the highest, but I think it was fun to play and probably
fun to watch. Now is that what would you would say got you into those like game
scenarios because again like you know almost three 70 minute games was it
people just throwing was it a failure to be able to close out was it your guys
is incredible high ground of what was the big contributing factor? I mean we I
think we were ahead most games in the start by like a lot a lot I think they
played really well they were like kind of type baited us in so yeah we threw
But it was I think a lot on them playing well and then I think later in the game
We were like good at high ground defending. I guess I don't know where that came from but
It's just big so I suppose
And I think that we like they were froze at different times in the game, but I think we started with the first
Yeah, I mean, but you guys are king of high ground have we have seen in the heroic series as well
It just keeps happening over and over again
Is that an air of confidence that you guys have that you're saying now like yeah, whatever happens?
don't worry we can still defend or is the focus really still on early game picks make it sure that doesn't happen I
Mean at some point in the game you're like all bets are off will just like do our best
Anyone can win like network items. It doesn't matter anymore
But I think when you prepare for the next year is like yeah, we're probably gonna stop the throws
And focus on the early game because other than that you can't really like predict what's gonna happen
later. Well, you shouldn't stop the throws because you have an incredible win rate on
Tiny. Actually, I'm in the talent room all the time and T governor was always saying man,
Boxing is such a tosser. He's such a tosser. Is that how you feel like?
Isn't what is that word like in UK English of governor keeps calling me a tosser.
Isn't that like being a fool or something? No, I think he's talking about Tiny. I don't
know. I'm not English, but he says that your tiny super good. Is that what you think is
Is your best hero right now?
I mean I think Tiny is really strong since they changed how the stun works.
I feel like before I didn't like when I would stun someone, sometimes they would BKB.
So now it's like I feel more confident when I'm jumping every time.
So yeah, maybe it's my best, but I'm not so happy I guess with the way some of my moves happen in the Tiny game.
Wow, that's a lot of games. You're almost undefeated before this series.
But anyway, I'm not gonna glaze you up. It's no big deal. Let's talk about your opponents coming up. Yandex
This is a scary team. A lot of guys have said this the up-and-coming team. They have that Wallachia flavor
We usually see kind of an okay team then they get a stand-in then they win Wallachia
But most of them have to go through you guys who are at full power. How do you feel going in the series?
Do you feel like you're prepared for this team?
I'm not at full power. I'm super tired, but
But we don't have any games tomorrow, so I can like shug a monster without worrying about
you know sleeping poorly after drinking caffeine at 10pm or whatever time it is, I don't even
know.
Last time we played them, yeah, I mean they're pretty good, I think they're just good at
extending the games and like ranting.
Oh great, that's great news for us at home.
They extend games and you guys, all right perfect.
What do you do to wake up?
What are you gonna do for your little bit of break time to get ready?
wash my face, do like a little, you know, sink you strut, eat a little, didn't really
have time to eat for five hours to get some fresh air, I don't know.
Okay, you can eat and go to the bathroom and wash your face at the same time.
I'll wake you up, man.
That's like a shock to the system.
You ever try that?
Either what are you even talking about?
Eating, what?
All right.
Thank you so much, Boxie.
It was an incredible interview.
We wish you the best of luck in the grand finals.
I'm sure going to be talking to you again later today and he
watch out there for the team Liquid fans baby! Yeah thank you guys for watching
the games are really fun to play so I hope they're fun to watch thank you guys
for supporting us and thanks to our sponsors. Yippee! Back to you. I can't handle it guys. I'm breaking. I'm coming up. I'm coming on stage. This is a second time
Slaxley is made up. Absolutely bullshit in an interview about Fingland play. First you call
a boxy and then you call him a tosser. He's putting you under the bus. I've never said
that. I mean, it's a yeah. I like how you interview someone and then they go, what are you talking
about? Just absolutely crazy. I got a rate though. Liquid's very good at handling it,
but Blitz and boxy have handled section interviews just wonderfully. They're like,
what are you, what are you? Go for it as well. He's like going on, like it's all jokes.
Yeah. Honestly, we're complaining about me as a host earlier.
What's that? I mean, he will not return. He will stay where he is.
Glax, of course, he's doing a great job.
Yeah, Steller, keep it up.
Um, so let's talk about the series and we can react a little bit to Boxy's interview.
Obviously, he did say that, you know, we are going to try and stop the throws.
He acknowledged a number of mistakes were made. He's correct that there were,
but he did also say we're going to keep focusing on the early game,
because that we can control and he's right I mean their early game has been
excellent today. Three games a bit up on good net worth for you they've got the
the drafts and the map movement to be able to do that so it really is a matter
of like one person will have to highlight like who is the catalyst to this
problem you've got plenty of fans to talk about it but I want to see the
same style of play I want to see the way that they're drafting and playing
everything is fun from liquid just the creativity of how they end the
game is the part that makes it interesting. Like it's not going to jump in.
three games they have the dream like you said you have a good draft you have a good early game
you have like a 10 kill lead by minute 20 into like depression like something bad happens where
they throw the game away you know they're still good enough to claw themselves back but how about
if you just cut out that part you know the middle part where you just throw it all away that would
be pretty cool so now they've got the break it's simple right blitz he's gonna tell them what's
up boom let's go i've got a treat for you kesim because it's our last panel together oh this is
Maybe ever, you said you wanted to hear the comms during the last thing.
I think it was him, but sure. If it's a trick for me, it's a trick for him.
If it's for him, then it's kind of no treats for Kezi.
Whatever, whatever. You haven't heard the treat. You can have your treat.
We can listen to the communications now.
get away, get away, get away
ok, ok ok ok
go away, go away
you are here long
come to me, to the right
careful
i'm looting you
sit back down
don't kill him
i'm just low
i'm just gonna sit there
i'm gonna climb up
i'm just gonna kite it
I mean if you ask me still ridiculously calm but you heard it that's he they made the call
They did say like I can keep me forever. You know just go hit base. It's so scary how proteins communicate
Yeah, first of all your cause by backing it's fuck it. I'm by backing
Yeah, and then it's like the other guys like fuck it
I'm gonna join your brother and then when they say they have the TA
It's just like one line of communication like I have the TA and nothing else happens
And then you continue the game by the fact that you can say one sentence process it and then play the rest of the
Game just beautifully. It's just testament to like these things
They are very clean like I would just also like in some of these games
You would love to hear like the mid game where like I think where it's maybe more their problem at the moment
But you can tell when they get to like the late game things where they need to be clutched. They absolutely are and
Start time. All right, so I I put them all stats lie according. No, not this one
I put it out there into the water that's the fish all that's why I was baiting them
Please someone get me the stat
Not so he has the stat this series was the second longest best of two slash best of three
in the history of Dota 2. The only one longer is the iconic Cloud9 scary face
Oh, the audio pixel game. Yeah, but this is second to that. So we that's not bad
Everyone watching has been able to just experience on that like you don't get this often in Dota
It took us like what eight or ten years to recreate like a top three length game like that exactly so
Enjoy it. That's what always making history of the lahia. There it is
Yeah, we've got a few more minutes left before our panel finishes
But so I definitely will throw it to you about the perspective the final for me
I think after a series like that you heard boxy said we haven't even had time to eat yet
You know so like definitely fuel up dudes as long as it doesn't do what slack said
I hope he doesn't try to watch his face take a shit and
What slacks was telling him to eat. Yeah, yeah, hopefully boxy doesn't listen to the interview correctly and does it separately
Yes, definitely, but they have to just take a deep breath get the full reset
yesterday. They played the first series, the last series. They also played these types of games
yesterday. So like it's not as if they just got over the mental hurdle of like a difficult game
yesterday. It's yesterday's difficult games processing that, the difficult games of today
processing that. It is probably the hardest like lower bracket run I've seen in recent time for one
team to then have to play at Grand Finals against someone like Yandex who is currently really
disciplined. I mean like Yandex beat them yesterday and they made Liquid look I mean
way weaker than they usually do like ace in that series was kind of a non-factor
like they really had his number like he had two very rough games and I think
also now in this series you let the end they let bedroom have the TA first pick
they responded with the underlord of course Yankees they see this they
understand this they play TA themselves so there's a very high chance if they
want to do this trade maybe you take out the underlord so like heroes for the
next series as well there's a TA the ace underlord I just mentioned I
think very important Kaz Windranger both Mickey and Watson they play all
these heroes so just like you know not just using the pen like for
yourself to calm down, eat and whatever, but also like, prepare because Yandex, they've had plenty of hours to look at all the shit that just happened in this series.
And I bet they've been loving it like we have.
Of course. I mean, like before the top three teams played the average total, average game, so like 42 minutes, you look at the games of Yandex BB, so 61 minutes, 47.
Then we have this series, right?
Which is what, 76, 83, 66.
So between these three teams, they've all broken the average.
Yeah, that is also kind of like looking towards the finals like what are we gonna get well games
I'll be taking the cast of some water for that one
I think because we always get three twos of a la here as well. So we could be in for a long day. I hope so
Not being kezu
Just gonna do what do you want to give a final thought kezu as we're off now
I find I thought it was a banger for tournament was very nice
I think for everyone, you know, it's should appreciate the people around you whether it's the players every tournament people go to
Everyone loses apart from one team, you know appreciate the tournaments appreciate the production you guys was very nice
Bang a tournament keep it up. We will keep it up. Keep it up rich. Are you rich?
You got any final thoughts? Oh a final thought? I don't know man. I love to play
I always feel blessed to do the Dota events. I'm a bit of a spring in my step
It's nice to step outside my comfort zone work with new people see amazing games in the game
I love the most contrary to what people might think
But I will say Malrin's wrong, CS2 is kinda hard.
But other than that, it's been, you know, it's always a blast.
You had to end on some CSGO or CS2 comment, huh?
Look, I see all Valve games as a shared universe that be all co-existent.
Who would you veto in the grand final?
Who would I veto? I'll take Nisha out right now.
These vetoes. They have to use you.
Oh no, it's not me. No, it's my dream from earlier, from the pre-share.
Oh yeah, sorry, I missed a bit.
My bad. Well, we're ending on a stinker, but whatever.
The series was good at least keep it up. All right boys. It's been a blast
Thanks to all of you for watching and make sure you stay tuned because we have of course got the grand final
Where am I? Where is it? I can't even see it. It's up in the lights. It's telling me we're on the white. Oh, hello
Right, so yes, we're going to have the grand final with Yandex and of course team liquid and it's not gonna be me
And it's not gonna be kesu. It is gonna be Shiva Tegov
Jenkins and the gun dog millionaire. It's an extended break. Go get hydrated. Come
back. It's gonna be a blast. See you soon.
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it here okay that's five it's a microta yeah all right why is that I don't he
just by good he have very good the windstage just always I play against him
he just super try hard okay super try hard plays good not good enough to be
pass five by no problem how about number four okay number four maybe it's okay I'll
put a lot enough number four oh okay okay Lornav mr. stand-in all right why is
that I just wash him he can always good ideas about how he play how he buying
items it just very good if you couldn't make it to a tournament would you tell
I'm gonna get Lornoff
Am I English not very good?
Would you be replaced by Lornoff if you had to be?
I don't understand
Okay, no problem, we'll skip that, don't worry about it
Next, number three
I think it's me
You, number three? No way
Number three, yeah, it's me
Okay, why is that? There's two people here better than you?
You goat?
No, I'm just not very good
I just need more time before I react
This time gonna be number one. Yeah powering up number two. It's a roll. Oh, okay
Laurel the sorrow back after a healing people very good now doing very well job. Yeah vacation buff. Okay number one is
Nisha Nisha Nisha. Yeah. Yeah. Now. Are you sure? I mean the guy is he really that interesting?
He just plays the same two heroes every game right just puck and ember, right? Yeah
Yeah.
All right.
He's a good Bucket Ember though, right?
All right.
Okay.
Nisha got it is.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
I agree with your list.
Except for you.
You should be number one 100% of the time.
All right.
And we'll see you next time.
Hello dear fans and welcome to Coach Swap.
Today we have the greatest minds in Dota 2 that are in the building currently because
Aoi already went home.
We have Blitz and Puppy welcome to Coach Swap gentlemen.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Like I'm chilling.
Why would you say it like that?
As if I was implying something else.
I'm fine.
He says okay no worries.
Thank you Blitz.
Puppy how you doing?
Coach Swap.
That's the name of the game.
Coach Swap.
Ladies and gentlemen, here's what we're going to do.
Each one of you is pretending like you're on the other guy's team and you're going to
draft.
However, you're going to talk to each other during this process.
You're going to explain why you're drafting for Hoomst.
Do you remember who's on Liquid?
I can go through the players if you need me to.
I've watched Life Swap.
I know how this works.
Okay, fantastic.
I hope it turns out the same.
Do you know who's on television?
I think so.
Okay, fantastic.
Blitz, begin the game.
Activate. So I'm pretending like I'm in his shoes drafting for his team. Yes. Yeah, I don't think that's what it how this works
That is how it works. He's I mean he's drafting for my team, but he doesn't want the best to happen
No, no, you guys are taking a very serious leader drafting. You're drafting. What you thought was this the white swap at all
Don't question the game. We're just saying all right you see liquid
Okay, I know what I have to ban if I'm playing against team liquid. Yeah, I will ban
the
But I'm first kick. So I don't need to ban the large the large hero. That's what they always say
You have to pick real heroes the shadow demon. Yes
Real heroes and I will ban and I'm cowl ban razor. All right, so why do you ban the razor?
Against liquid because liquid only plays razor. It's like the only thing they can do weak. All right
Mr.. Liquid so I'm I'm liquid
Yeah, you really do not understand this.
Yeah, no, but I could pick Ricky Mauro and, like, Love Seeker for them and be like,
Liquid sucks.
Look at them.
Ah, good!
That would defeat most of the purpose of the content, but you definitely could.
I mean, you know.
Who would you ban against Perry Vision?
What'd I get?
Team Liquid Coach?
I'm the first pick, maybe.
I would say, you know, I don't want Static to play Shadow, he plays it every day.
Okay, so that is good.
That is good.
He is good.
And then I would be like, I don't know, man.
He already banned Shadow Demon.
So you know, I'm gonna ban Largo.
Largo, you got him.
The fuck?
Largo didn't ban him, man.
That's very good.
Okay, let's see, what does Ace want to play?
I could ban out Ace, but then I'd be banning him myself.
I already ban Largo, so...
Yeah, yeah, let's see.
I don't want to play against Largo.
Wait, no, no.
We're the Largo team.
Yeah, we're the Largo team.
only plays one hero and that's Tusk. Okay, done. That is true. Foxy plays one hero.
Okay. It's gone. Big flum. What? Flum. It's called flum. What the hell is flum? Flame in
funny words. Oh! Like he's flaming. Okay. Big flum. Big flum. Foxy plays one hero.
It's Tusk. Yeah, that is absolutely true. That's true. Anyway, I'll do the boring,
the boring bands that people do when they're first pick or second pick. I mean,
They'll just banned. Oh my god. Have a little spice here. Come on. Okay. This is content for so
I'm going to like the next level and I know that Nisha only plays one hero right now
I mean he wants to play it at all times. Yeah, so and I feel like I deny my no one is a good player
I'm sure nine class can play this too. Okay. It's like he will do some weird stuff first. There it is first pick puck. I
Know for sure like he will now Nisha's done. There's no hero. He wants to play against this
It's over flashback a guy once played a support puck in the game with me pause 5 puck
And I had to follow him around his army night all day for four hours
I was puppy in a pub together one time. You remember that how long ago is this that was a Midas mode two times
Intense intense stuff. Is this a good pick for paravision?
first pick puck
Not really
Why not I see what he's trying to do. Okay. All right. Here is and I will counter him with the fact that
Nisha went to sleep today and Thompson came in and played Ricky Martin. Oh, okay
This is the only time I've ever seen you show these is this matchup is against Quinn a TI Wow, okay?
All right. All right. Okay. Let's see liquid. I need a I can first pick Ricky. Okay, nice pick
I know this dude only plays like they're five only like one hero. Okay, I will ban
Disruptor then just rock there. Yeah, Nisha doesn't like playing against this hero and where's like bane?
Okay. Yeah, but no one likes to play against the shop. Hmm. Okay. Okay. I don't know your team like that
You're gonna make I'm gonna get yeah, but it's wife swaps. You gotta know. I'm just gonna guess
I'm pretty much like the mind of
a guy
And I feel like I'm just gonna go for deny picks in this one. Oh my denying like what I think liquid will take. Okay
All right, I'm doing good
Poppy
I'm gonna ban Templar sassing cuz Titanic plays Templar sass in a lot. That is true. I just template. Did she ever lose in this one?
I don't think she's just kind of know
Hand in our pretty good. That's a good band there, Mr. Liquid. No wonder they pay you the big bucks. Yeah, which one of your eight coaches told you that one?
You only have two right now. I don't care
Where's Kai Pete? He's on Aurora. That's a shame
Anyway, yeah, we got to pick that lion, you know, okay
We've got a thing of some people. Yeah stinky pinky at the ready. Go for an boxy. They both play line
That's true. Lovers of the line. Okay. Lovers of fingering. That's thank you so much
Where is the Ricky going by the way?
Is he a flex pick or is he a...
Ah you never know man.
You never know. You never know with Mickey.
Okay, so speaking of Mickey, I'm gonna take away his hero.
Okay.
So there goes that.
And then I think I need to stop picking Kors.
No.
Because it's making my draft a little bit too obvious.
He's picking Alliance heroes.
Oh my god, it's Akken and Kristen Mehta.
This draft looked um...
Oh my god, I already see it.
I already saw it and Blitz, I'm so sad for ruining the content.
You gotta do it.
You gotta cut that off.
You gotta cut it out of there.
They've ruined this whole strat and now you can't do anything.
I can finish it.
Alright.
You can finish it for sure.
I can finish it.
But what if?
What if?
Yeah.
What if?
Yeah.
What if?
You can tell me you're not.
No but I can't.
I can't pick Chaos Knight because it's such a good hero against Furion.
It's one of the better heroes against Furion.
You know in that finals, by the way, probably, I mean, he's figured it out.
So I'm assuming anybody that's watching has, you know,
I was five and oh in that series.
I owe. Yeah, I was winning every game. Damn.
What was the band structure back then?
Was there like, was there no bands?
Who bands only at the beginning for both teams?
One band, one, one, one, one, one. See.
And like there was no IO band like findable.
I mean, the thing is like in the last game, there was no Isle, or there was no likes the thing is like, you have to think about
laundry, you have to think about Furion, because Bulldog was just in the house, you know, and there was a lot of things to think about alchemist was also pretty good.
So it was, anyway, let's go back to this thing.
I'm going to have to somehow let him surprise me with the draft.
I'm going to have to pick, I don't know, the good old Terrorblade against Furion.
It's a good combination of, you know, it's good against Furion.
And probably there's going to be Chaos Knight being picked, so therefore I can see it working
pretty well.
Okay.
Very good.
Yeah.
Is this a Team Liquid pick?
Do you have play a lot of Terrorblade?
Yeah.
I don't know if it matters anymore.
Okay.
Great.
The content is going very well.
really good very good as expected and right now we're just gonna pick you know
because we know that it's going to be a chaos night yeah we're just gonna pick a
phoenix in here Phoenix but this is where we subverted
mm-hmm we need an off-laner bed okay okay and I need it I need a band for my
off-laner yeah powerful off-laner I'm gonna get rid of this okay that is
definitely a team liquid pick there on the group mm-hmm all right para vision who
they spamming and you know what I think they're spamming rafking rafking there's
a ton of rafking right now and I'm pretty sure yeah I'm pretty sure
Lone Druid is one of their favorite heroes.
Oh no!
It's a real ex-NOTE NL.
It's one of the two better heroes.
Oh god damn it, it's Chaos Knight.
What am I supposed to do?
A huge surprise.
I should have done like the game 2 draft or something like that.
The game 5 one is a bit too iconic.
No, it's very iconic.
Well, this seems like it's specially designed to take down one of our teams here today.
Yeah.
Any answers here, Mr. Puppers?
there is no answer oh my god you're just gonna have to lose ti oh no I'm so sorry
you're just gonna let it random or let's pick your hands up the keyboard no
all right that's okay that's pretty good game it has to sign Magnus you know it's
crazy what's that like you know that stat like Ames lost every game five
against Magnus yeah TI finals we said if this year we made it to see I
finals no matter what we have to do it wow like even if Ace doesn't want to
play the hero because I think it's like he either wins and it's a good story for
him he got like the hump off his back or it's kind of funny yeah or you could
just not ban juggernaut that's a good idea to make sure in that situation okay
well gentlemen we have to decide amongst each other you are now back on
your own normal teams are you going to win this game what do you think you're
back on para vision is your beautiful draft do you win that is me yes that's
That's me right there? Yes. And do you even want to ask this question?
Blitz, do you win the liquid draft? I mean, there's like some stuns in teamfight. I could see it because I think
What are you talking about? I have nightmares about this draft.
That's a powerful draft.
We must determine a winner though. Who wins the game? I think the top one's unloosable. The top was unloosable.
Puppy?
Yeah, Mike Murphill.
All right, fantastic.
Well, we have determined our winner.
Thank you so much for a journey down Boomer Lane with you two.
Gentlemen, it has been an absolute pleasure.
And there you have it, yet again, the unbeatable draft happens again.
Thank you for watching a wonderful Coke Swap.
We'll see you next time.
Everybody, we're here with the two biggest minds in the building.
Thank God we got you guys to discuss for the audience, Largo.
Now, this is a hero, the newest hero to come to Dota 2.
He is, many would say, unbelievably broken, many would say, maybe underutilized.
We're brought you here to explain it to the audience and talk about your opinions.
Wagamagaga, let's go first.
What are your thoughts on Largo?
Is he OP, unpeed?
What do you PC about him?
Wow, that's clean right there.
Thank you.
I actually think that Largo is probably the peak definition of what you could call
overpowered right now.
As we have had in literally contested every single game so far this tournament, there's
not been one game where he wasn't banned or picked.
No matter what team, and that says a lot because he's a bit of a specialist here.
You need to like understand how to play him, but it doesn't really matter, he's just too broken.
Now why is that, Gary?
I mean, a lot of the players grew up in the age of guitar hero.
You know, you're strumming away through the fire and the flames, dragging force.
You know, the rips and the licks, you know, you've got the skills there.
You built it up over your teenage years and then Lager comes out.
You're like, oh, sick, I can finally use these skills.
They've got people like Ace who just transfer that skill they've built up over the years
into a doting hero.
This could be spicy, liquid in position, there's a jump from no one, triple rabbit, the fan
making everybody break free, BKBL becomes Ace, they're singing song and dance, you try
to keep them running while Nietzsche dives into Carlos.
Throughout the game, why is he so overpowered?
What makes him so good?
I mean, the entire thing that makes Largo overpowered is the agonim scepter, because
The hero felt pretty weak in pups and then they buffed his ulti, gave it bigger AoE, and
that makes the Aghanim too broken because it does damage in an AoE, a massive AoE, essentially
radiance on crack.
It's way too strong.
Okay.
Now what does the Aghanim Sector do for audience members that don't know?
It lets you play multiple tunes at the same time.
It's so good.
Yeah?
Yeah, you can give people spell amp or movement speed or regen them up or make them go
faster, make them do more damage. It just buffs up your whole team and yourself.
Okay. But there is one other component that Gary didn't mention. And what is that?
It gives you armor. I don't know that one.
What else does it give you?
Well, it's the other component there.
It plays music? What are you looking for?
It damages. It damages. You can run around.
I said that first. Yeah.
Calm down, Walker.
So it does do damage and kind of a lot of damage, right?
Yeah, I mean some would say it's a radiance on crack. Oh, that's what you meant by that
The burn damage is really the thing it plays into his third skill which makes you do damage over time on any damage
You do add that with the damage over time from the old thief
and you just slowly start burning down,
even when you try and disengage, you think you're fine,
but then you still have 800 damage to take
from the Largo or something and you just kinda die.
And all like ties together, given he's a tanky hero,
sustains himself and his teammates,
and then does damage over time,
so he stays alive, continually doing that damage.
You're never dying, apparently.
Yeah.
Now, how come some teams got away
with picking it before?
Do you guys remember casting in the games
where you did get to see a Largo?
Like what was, why did they let him through?
What did he do?
I think some teams figured out they could try
and play aggressively in the first like 17 minutes.
That's when we look at the Aghanim's timing for Lago
and you think, okay, we can go and dive him in the jungle,
find him for your Ags, kill him before he hits his timing.
But even if you slow his Ags down by two
or three or four minutes, he gets there anyway
and that the one fight that happens after Ags
is always huge for the Lago team.
Sure.
Why is that?
Because he has Ags.
Oh yeah.
That's good.
All right.
A big thing, though, about the whole Largo situation is that you need to understand Dota
is about figuring out how to use stuff, items, heroes, different spells, what's the strength
and weakness.
Largo has been out for quite a while and for a long time people didn't have a formulaic
approach.
We saw different items, we saw people trying out different builds, but ultimately now
it's been brought down to one crystallized focus point.
We know what we do.
Offlane Largo always pull back farm in safe areas, don't get ganked, get ags, and then fight.
That's the formula that everyone wants.
Okay.
Now do you think that this hero needs a nerf or is it just good in the pro games?
Could pubbers, could dota be ruined if it stayed like this for the next nine months?
I think it needs a nerf for sure. I think agnems is definitely over tuned.
But I think there's also the elements, like agnems timing obviously is huge,
But there's the elements after with like the Kaia build where you're able to amp yourself up
And it just snowballs from the agonins. So I think if they nerf the eggs or maybe
tune the alt numbers a little bit we could find a good spot. Okay
I would like to see them go in a different direction than just having this agonims
That's just a farm steroid that also gives him teamfight. It's too reminiscent of the same thing
We see on Beastmaster. I think it's a bit boring to be honest to have an agonim
that basically gives you everything you need and instead I would like to see it maybe do
something that fills the support role more. Right now, Axe is how you play him as a core,
but I think it kills off the possibility for this hero as a cool support hero if you have
to nerf the hero overall and that screws over his support potential just because
core is broken.
I mean support players love cute little things and summons, you know, as a Warlock player
I love putting the golem down and letting him run and do my dirty work for me. Maybe
Lager could have some more little little froglets, right? Yeah, some tadpoles and frog spawn going.
Cool. I like that. All right. We have been seeing first pick bat rider, which has been extremely
effective. We have seen a lot of these different cores coming in. Will we get to see it one more
time? I think no, but some teams can overcook. They get in their head, start thinking guys,
we should ban this and that. And suddenly they forget the most obvious answer, which is
just as bad Margot.
Sure, sure.
Yeah, like, you know, against Liquid as an example,
you've got to ban out the Puck for Nisha,
the Windranger of Mikay.
So maybe if we get one of these situations
where Lago is left in, they could get their hands on it,
but it's gonna be one of these
overcooking the draft situations
where you leave it in, lose game one,
remember, oh, shit, Lago.
Yeah.
Now you guys don't think that there's like
a general answer for this hero, though?
Like, I'm sure Blitz and, you know, Milan,
these guys have cooked in the answer.
They just haven't had the chance to really show it yet.
I know a very good answer for him in general,
and we've seen it executed a lot of times.
And the answer is to abuse his timing, right?
He needs the agonoms.
If you shut him down, lane stays really hard,
which is easy to do, because I will say this.
I'll go on record and say, I think Largo
is the weakest laning hero in Dota.
I don't think any hero is weaker at laning.
And still he's broken.
Because once he gets ags, he just does everything he needs.
So we have seen teams have used it, Wisp and Marci,
combination against this lane, destroy him,
but there's this risk you take.
If you don't destroy him in lane,
and then you fall into this trap
and you play Dota against Largo, and you lose.
It was a little reminiscent of like the old days of Dota,
right with Anti-Mage, he's in the jungle,
the looming threat, getting into the battle fury,
3 AM is coming, but Largo's threat happens 17 minutes in,
not 37 minutes in.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it is reminiscent of when Lycan was broken
and just warred his jungle kind of situation,
or you could just not.
So, okay, all right, gentlemen,
I think we've covered a lot about Largo.
Thank you so much for your incredible insight
onto this hero.
And we will see if we will get any Largo here
on our final grand, final day of PGL of Velakia Season 7.
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The Grand Finals are upon us here for PGA Velakia Season 7 and we have a lot to talk about
Yandex and Liquid. They'll go head to head in a best of five and talk all about it and
how we got here to begin with. I'm joined by three of the sharpest minds. We got Gunnariga,
We got Jenkins, we got Teagov, and how are you doing with this graph file?
I'm very good, I'm excited.
I was expecting this to be an hour earlier, but we wanted to make our day even longer,
which is good.
I love Dota, so...
You're looking at me for...
Yes, definitely.
Yeah, you should...
I would like to propose a toast.
Okay.
I would like to propose toast before to everybody a drink to the best, most high-polakia
that I think has ever happened so far.
And I sincerely hope the grand finals is just as insane as the lower bracket finals and longer and longer and better and longer and better and and and yeah that will be
There we go, it's lemonade just in case. It's a energy drink. This is an energy drink. Yeah, I have a healthy zero calorie water and so it's yours. She is. Yes, very good.
Now, we have got, of course, these hype teams waiting,
and they're having a little bit of a well-deserved break.
So it gives us a chance to reflect a little bit
about what has been happening over these last nine days or so.
And to do that, we figured, well, actually, Gunnar figured
that it would be fun to just test our knowledge a little bit
on that, Gunnar, take it away.
Yeah, so we have a quiz prepared for you guys.
So there's 10 questions.
For context, the last place to three is not evolved.
So because that kind of broke some records.
Yes.
Just push out of your mind so many records. Yeah, I'm not gonna look
Look towards T. Okay. Look at me just because you lose there in contention. Okay, so this is the first question
That's a different which player has the widest hero pool. Oh
Parker Kierich planet or GPK it's
Parker I'm just gonna look at it. I'm just gonna go got every time a
I'm or it's for Kierich. Okay. I can go GPK. I'll say I'll say GPK because I know Beppu
is the widest hero pool for team. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be. All right. It's Parker.
14 heroes. Very well done. All right. Oh, just oh no. All right. It's okay. We got question number
two. Which team is the widest hero pool? Hey, is it is it is a is a it's a yeah. Well,
Well, I looked at setups.
Yeah, that was important.
Well, it is.
Beppin, do you know how many bonus points?
I can get bonus points.
I'm going 43.
I'm going for 41.
T, do you want to just guess?
44.
45.
Oh!
OK, OK.
We were all pretty close.
Yeah.
That's actually pretty.
The longest overall series, not including.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
Well, actually.
Well.
Free last, last series.
If you like me, Quinn.
no clearly not. I will go for B. I will follow my host to the end of time. I feel like this
is a Toshiva, but I don't agree. I would say this is a curveball. It's extreme gaming
team nemesis it is oh so jiva 58 minutes and 58 seconds that just seems like
teams that will have long games like 23 cabbage come on yeah all right guy likes
this is the player in a single game that had the most kills okay actually right
now different all right which team picked the most unique heroes hmm so this
is like heroes that only their team played oh okay i thought i i'm gonna
oh it's hero right it's gotta be a row like they play pudge they play but
Meepo is played by other people as well.
Yeah, Harker you like that one a bit.
Yeah.
Navi, did they play enough games?
Yes, they played, yeah.
Navi played Angel of Dipperation as well.
Yeah, but you know what?
It's between a hierarchical tundra, I think.
But then again...
These are all good.
This is like...
They were the only team that played a hero.
I'm going to go tundra.
I'm going to go now.
We had like some BZM mid here, like Shaker and stuff.
So I'm going to...
I'm just going to lock in tundra.
Go.
Yeah.
I'm they put it in one of the most games it was it was Navi
Congratulations, the cool one is majority of them were like one or two played, you know like this year
They picked it once or yeah, no rohawk actually picked
So that's the most of like a
All right, which who the most last is for a minute in a game in a single game
Oh, the Parker Medusa's team spirit Parker TA vs. Paravision not the gyro or Watson Medusa vs. Aurora
I don't know the highest loss hits of all time. It's like satanic on the do so so my gut are we on a team?
This is per minute. No, we're working together
So the game also could have been just really short
Per minute. Oh per minute. It's not overall. So it doesn't matter if the game was like 80 minutes. Let's put stop putting
I feel like Parker had an insane TA performance. It was a pair of vision. Was it? Yeah, he did
Um, yeah, that was 20 and oh type in saying yeah, I'm leaning I'll go be with it
We just we just we're on a team. I'll go be oh well close. It was Parker do so
17.92 per minute
I crazy mom he confirmed. All right. Yeah, which was the fastest divinery period. I'm going for a I
Have no bases. I want it to be a I think it's a I think it's a because there was like a few times gyro
was losing real bad and at like early and then went for rapier to try to win the game. So I feel
like it's a it was a it was auto gyrocopter as well as 10 minutes faster than the average divine
rapier. All right so this one so basically this is uh because teams got more specialized
on a hero that got picked six times or more by a team which had the highest win rate on them.
There has to be liquid because they got they got Largo like six times. Also before this uh
Before the series he tiny was like six in all something right so or did it become six in a due to the series?
So I'm leaning a but I might have forgot the numbers on tiny because it could have been five or no which means it is a
They're tiny it was six in all before the series. It wasn't fucking but it was five. You should games one boxing
That's a great setup. By the way, that's called foreshadowing. Thank you. Which here is the highest average kills?
Oh
Meepo had a very few amount of games, so the average kills would be high, but I don't think it was too much in like the three games
It was played. It's got the Ursa. It's clinked or Ursa because like there's been your tourers had some 20-21 type games
But he had that on clink as well. And Ursa, I think, clinked yesterday. Ursa has been like
19 and 4, so it will start with some high win rate
It's so then it's gonna be inflated because when you win on Ursa, you kill on Ursa. That's true
You snowball. Yeah, you snowball, but it's also picked more than clink
Yeah, and then how's your tour just kind of like done it by himself had it the stats. Yeah, I would I would go with clink
I'm actually I'm just gonna go myself
Okay, but I think it's probably be things it's clinks 11.4
Statisticians and Ursa was I think second place. Yeah, there we go. So it's not bad
The highest average assists hero, okay
Spirber could just cheese because you press charge and then you ought to get it counts as an assist
Yeah, which is nice. You just get you just get gold guys. I'm helping. Yeah, yeah
And it's average and spirit breaker wasn't picked that many times
So potentially that is also potted but that you same can think up a set did you win those games?
Because if you're losing on spirit breaker, you like really lose and how about an oracle right with not too many oracle games
but when they've won it's been like insane Potomie and
Toe-toe-toe-toe-toe-toes.
So that alone might just like carry the stat.
I'm with T on this one. I feel like, I guess the question is how do you get an assist on Oracle?
Like just standing around, if you heal somebody and then you get a kill.
You're fine with playing.
Well, yeah, you're stealing the kill with the Purifying Flames.
People do that.
Yeah, they do.
Well, it's assist, so tap it kill.
Final answer.
Tap it kill, steal the kill.
I'm going for Spirit Breaker anyway.
You could also be Ringmaster at them.
Save Ringmaster was part of it.
I'm just going to hope the few amount of games and the incredible performances will carry Oracle.
Yeah, the Oracle for me. What was yours?
Spearbreaker and then I'll go Oracle. That's right. The Oracle is twenty two point three three average
Crazy, it's hard to lock in. It's so high. I think that's it. Okay. Who won? Did we win? You guys won? We won?
It's a winning. Yeah, like one team
There's a bonus question. I think he kind of covered this in the morning. So I'll just do this quick
Who are the most average pings or pings in a single game? Oh night falls not here
I actually don't know. I'm gonna look in got the juice straight away boom
It was got the juice funny stat with that was he was actually 1 2 3 and 4 and 6 for the games with the most single pings
He hasn't a healthy obsession like my guy just half the game
Did you know who second was who got that fifth place? I'm probably still nightfall somehow
There's jobs
438 pings in the most crazy as a one game as a coach
the juice was like 438 pings one game so liquid dutch coach right no thank you for that okay i
appreciate that well we are gonna we are gonna talk about uh the two finalists and before
while we do that we should talk about uh how they got here to begin with because for yandex
it's been a it's been a pretty decent ride here they they're one of the teams that hasn't
necessarily flown on the radar but they have consistently gonna gotten better yeah
Yeah, I think, since they got formed this season,
people were like, oh, they look like good,
they have good players, it's a good baseline.
But every single tournament,
I feel like they just show up a bit more and more.
And then this tournament, no one's really,
I think the spotlight hasn't really been on them.
It's like, oh, Liquid's doing so good
and Spirit's doing so good.
And then Yanix beats them yesterday
and it's like, wow, this team is really good.
And now it's just every single time they play,
they look such a solid team.
Yeah, we have them winning Dreaming season 27
season so they have taken home one championship. Team Liquid also has won a championship after that
but when Yandex won at the end of 2025 it kind of felt like after that they
I don't know they didn't show up as much anymore and people thought well you know maybe that was
their honeymoon phase being over. Yeah they're hit or miss it's strange like I remember when the
team first form. The general consensus about them was it was Soxa plus four goons. And at this point,
it's obvious that that's not the case. But even with all of the other players showing that they're
incredibly good at the game, like CJ, for example, has absolutely improved his gameplay, even with
upgrade at the CJ rather than junior. Yeah, exactly. It's like even with that, they are
still hit or miss, depending on the tournament. And this one, it seems like they're really
on. And part of that is the unique ideas that they come up with in the game. Like their fundamentals
are good, but they're doing some stuff other teams are not touching right now.
And there's a couple of things that teams do regardless. And we figured before we head into
these five games potentially on Dota 2, you should keep your eyes on something that is
happening around the tier 3 item, Mark. Yeah, I've been there and toke around the town.
There's greedy tier 3 enchantment. It's giving too much gold. Oh yeah, it is.
For the look of the win rate, it's like 57%.
Again, this was before the series today,
so maybe Liquid BB has skewed it slightly.
Even in the average game time,
they have easily skewed themselves.
But going into tier three, getting the 100 GBM,
we're seeing cores even take the tier two greedy,
going into tier three as well.
There's some games as well,
because the average game time is so long,
you will get value from this.
You will get to your next aura item,
you'll get to your potential BKB.
You have to watch out for just the RNG on greedy.
It can shape some games.
Yeah, I feel like Team Liquid also has to watch out to deal with Yandex very differently than how they dealt with Batboom earlier today.
And part of that comes from Yandex's laning stage, in particular Jankin's success.
I'm obsessed with watching these guys' games legitimately because in like every role they're doing very unique stuff when it comes to laning.
In this situation you have Soxa, like every single game he is cutting creeps.
whether he's playing like tiny, whether he's playing shadow demon, and he's not
doing it necessarily in the way that you would expect. Like sometimes he's cutting
creeps and he's creating double waves and like cutting two creep waves instead
of one and then he's bringing that creep wave into the tower. And this is not
something that you're usually seeing where like afterwards they'll go for some
kill attempt when they do a double wave. In this situation you can see like he's, he
wastes so much time from the enemy side. Like all of his four positions, even if they're
the ranged heroes, he's kind of playing them a little bit like, you know, I, I, this is
always a comparison, but it's like nine class Monkey King, nine class Slark, like he can
somehow play every hero and be these like cheeky kind of annoying type, type heroes,
like even if he's not playing them, you know, it's like DM and Soxa never play a lane fair.
They're so dishonest in their gameplay.
And I think it opens up the game for Soxa can like rotate through the portal and go
to the other lanes.
He can go check all of the runes.
Like some four positions, some five positions they stay in lane.
I guarantee you like 90% of games Soxa will go to the four minute rune.
Maybe not in this one.
That's the 10%.
But in most of the games, he'll go to the 4-minute rune and in most of the games, in every game, he'll go to the 6-minute rune, the 8-minute rune.
He's stacking. Like, he just leaves DM on an island, which also is a shout-out to having DM on your team, that you can have a player, that you can play like this.
Well, you say that, but DM is not on their team at all, Tiga. They just stand there.
Yeah, he's a stand, but he's looking like he's meant to be on the team, alright?
Sorry for the notice, but the way that DM is playing, I feel like Staxer is actually showing DM in a different light, right?
And all the time of P-Vision, DM had to play with 9-class, the guy who's playing the slaps,
you're putting the waves, doing the stuff.
But I feel like DM, at least on his time on Yandex, we're getting to see him be the offlaner that you can rely on.
He's not like a guy playing with, let's say, lower net worth, having to play more for a sacrificial position.
We are seeing statements through master games, statement-central games, and it is because of that.
So what he does in the lane, buying the time, creating these opportunities,
I thought this combination is just making DM look like a much stronger player than maybe what we saw at the tail end of his pVision career
Another little detail that I saw in the laning stage that we didn't see there was there's another game where Soxa
He pulled a creep wave, but he only
Aggroed half of his own creep wave and he like agroed it in a way
We're like the range creep agro two melee creeps and then the two melee creeps that agroed agroed one melee and one range
It's just like how do you think of this and it sends one creep forward and it makes it really weird
Where like the carry would normally take a creep and chase to make like a new equilibrium
It's constant subversion from these guys and it comes from every single world
Malady has also been buying quelling blade on every single position 5t. We've not paneled together for this whole event
I'm curious what you think about the position 5 quelling blade tech
Cuz I feel like Malady's the only one of using it and it should be used more from other position 5s
It speaks for itself how many trees how big of the map is like it just takes cutting one tree to open up one ward spot
And then to be warded if you don't have the quail
If you don't see the tree cut you'll see the tree in the fog right so the only way to get that information is by walking
Into a position to see the tree it makes sense. He's playing the heroes that can
Utilize this really nicely specifically the tree you win your lane on a jacura or tusk
You're gonna want to run around and get those cheeky wards out
So love the quilling blade tech and manatee scary laner. Yep scary laner for sure
team Liquid on the other side also very scary in their own right as we should also focus on Yennex's
opponents for this best of five gunner. I have to address the elephant in the room where team
Liquid just played three 70-ish minute games in a row. We heard Voxy in the post-game interview,
fatigue might be a case and it's not just this event. Team Liquid has been on the road
for a very long time. This is their final day of being on the boat.
Yeah, so they've basically been traveling for about two and a half months.
So they're finally getting home tomorrow. It would be nice for them to get a win before that, but
yeah, it's definitely kind of a long day for them. I think going those,
just having to wake up in the morning, get ready, and then
mentally preparing for this best of five. Also all the stress of
like preparing, drafting for two different teams, preparing out
like all the prep work, the ward work, like all these notes they have to do.
It's just a lot of kind of effort and I am worried for Liquid that this final
like best of five might be it's like a lot to put off of them. Yes it is a lot but they have a lot
of data to work with. Yeah they do this so this is Liquid's previous drafts of course omitting
what we just saw and something that they've been valuing a lot more is Tiny. This is kind of
of the story that was happening in Dream League for Liquid as well, where it seemed like if
they could get Nisha on his good playmakers, which was like Puck and Ember, they would
even like really early pick it. That's when they would win the game purely by Nisha just
doing some crazy shit in the games and carrying. Like in a lot of these tiny games, they're
not winning. But the refresher orb octane core toss backs results in some insane play
where they carry the game and so the way Tundra beat that in Dream League was they legit just first
phase banned all of Nisha's playmaking heroes and then said we'll let every meta hero through
and we'll play them better than you will. So the question to me now is between Liquid and Yandex
if that happens number one does Nisha have other options to play make and number two
can Liquid play the meta heroes better than Yandex? I just want to go back to
the fatigue point quickly because I feel like Liquid, they really set themselves up that you know
you're talking about the draft and these ideas. I'd like to see that Jabs, the additional coaching support that
Liquid has compared to other teams. When you're watching this best of free, you've probably took a step back and gone
what if we get to the Grand Finals. So he's already preemptively working there, whilst then Blitz is focusing maybe in the
moment towards how do we survive this best of free?
Yeah, you actually have a guide that can take that step back.
Yeah, so it's like when you have these like long ordeals and you're talking about the tiny success and this success
success is like they have more staff than others, so they are equipped for these positions.
Then you let the players like players play in the moment, enjoy the game, don't think about
anything else. Like this is not a story of like your one of your players having to think
about the draft and this and that because other teams crumble because that like their
guy has to do everything like that doesn't work for Liquid.
There's one thing in particular though Gunnar that Jabs has been able to focus on because
these two teams have faced before. It was a relatively quick ordeal where Jann
was able to get the 2-0 over Team Liquid. How much do you think Team Liquid learned from that,
as we will see the drafts that were happening for that particular series?
I think kind of to what Jenkins was saying earlier, they definitely are valuing
Tiny really high. I think Nisha is also...
How do I put this? Like his playstyle, I think he's kind of understood his playstyle in the
game that he has to set up the fights for his team rather than solo carry.
in the last game he went for the storm like grieves and he was just like constantly making
space going in for his team the same with Tiny and those games there was a team fight where he had
nine toss packs in one single team fight. Oh, that was great. He like swings in, he tosses two
guys in, waits for another one, then he refreshes, causes more in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like,
I think he's really not like putting a team on the back but like he's putting just the team
fights on his back just like the effort and the spell casting on his back. I think you
you can say that he's putting his team on his back. Despite all of Liquid being like legendary
high caliber players, Nisha right now is just, he is on some other level. And you can see it in
the guy literally went from not being on leaderboards to rank three to rank one in like two weeks.
Yeah. That is, that is an unbelievably hard feat to do.
In playing pubs you can do wonders to a man. It can, it can.
The redemption arc of Team Liquid after not qualifying
in January for a couple of things is really, really lit the fire
behind their heels, and they are definitely doing well.
I mean, that's also the year of the worst.
So, you know, they're fitting to see them pushing forward
the way they have in the last couple of tournaments
that they played.
This best of five, we are going to see these two teams
taking a fresh approach, I would imagine,
because the best of five is different.
So you have maybe the chance to play around with a couple of heroes, for example, for example, I'm a massive fan of this, right?
Because Largo is the hero that everyone's going to talk about.
It's the bonkers, broken, ads buying, silly, alchemist, farming, off lane, that win-do games.
The God mode hero according to...
So you think you can counter in the Largo? I see the meme already.
Maybe, but we've seen the Largo lose lane by a BB Marcy with an IR.
Okay, there we go.
They're doing it.
So why not, if you're going into a grand finals, that's the five, give away a lago,
copy paste a Marci carry, or even a Marci support and run into the lago lane.
But basically kill the frog, cut off its legs, send it to the jungle,
make it recover for an additional five, six minutes, like make it miserable.
I actually hope this is a carry Marci and not a boxy Marci.
Just because I feel like early on in the tournament, Vici was the only team that showed
how strong carry Marci is against lago because when you get the creep,
The way Marcy wants to play with the Dom Creep is to like invade the enemy jungle and be annoying there
And you can always very easily jump out if the enemy team comes to gank you which they're going to have to or you just kill
The Largo it's like in terms of in the game. You can burst Largo that feels good
But also the way that Largo wants to play
Marcy completely counters that like the way that he wants to jungle you're always in his pond
And Marcy carries on this here is that you if you don't play in pubs and have the muscle memory on it
You don't really ask your coach. I'm ready to play right like you need to be ready
Yeah, and that's why I think teams that we didn't jump on the train too quickly
But yeah, I would like to see the massive carry
I want to see Lager to have a couple deaths to his name like teams for some reason
They let it through and then they just let it farm like please. Yeah, you're aggressive
It's just
Look at playstyle though to be very aggressive
Okay, let me surprise they paired this with a tusk and the safe lane something crazy like that and just
The cool thing about that pair is normally like you want tusk with a rain shoe
Yeah, but with Marcy you jumped the both in with the facet so it's like you get the tusk in there you commit
I think that would be just a strong killing
and
Box you just played tusk in the last game so it's probably on their mind the thing is though
The last few drafts that we've seen in in the series like there's many layers to it where you have swaps like
We know this so they know this they watch the beachy games
They watch the games where Marcy Kerry destroyed Largo
Does Yandex just swap this to be a support and then pick something else?
Where they're like countering the Marcy as a carry making it uncomfortable?
It would be a reveal for a first time in the tournament
But to be fair liquid revealing a potential first Mickey Marcy carry in this tournament
Largo yet to be paid a support position. So that could be the development of oh wow
Marcy's going to carry for Liquid. Wow, Largo's going to support
You know like that is easily a narrative that could be said.
Are there annoying things that Largo does which is really cool with all these supports game ban, right?
Like there's so many supports are getting banned early
Warlock is another one of the big ones and Largo is so good versus Warlock because
The warlock can't use aggressive or defensive heal because you can purge both and even the fatal bonds in the lane
You can remove from yourself if you want
So it's just a lot of like random like the lick dispel is just such a good tool
It's so good
It's gonna stop so long I was gonna say it's like it not only prevents damage
But it gives you regen so like double you're basically healing when he cast this spell
Yeah, it also stops the likelihood of a tofu one to play like a five-position dazzle, right?
Yeah, he might not want to play ayo, but you didn't have to go. Okay. What's the tofu aggressive fives that he wants to play?
Well, we have got the Ursa banned out
By liquid in the end of it all and they are the ones having to pick a hero
Every time you see second phase liquid you want to look towards us a man
That's kind of the entire grand finals will be have liquid band us are they protecting ace
We said a lot during the library at finals
Say it again, and there's the hero for most likely boxing or nature or nature you should six six no five and a yeah
He's pretty good at it
So it's okay. They're pretty pretty okay at it. These guys are pretty solid tini's
I mean, it's also a nice year rock solid. Definitely rock solid as a girl
That's great to jump the tiny and yeah, I just bumped that off camera
That's wonderful. I think you like any melee heroes are nice to
Play with Marcy whether it's a five or four and you know that's the awesome thing about Marcy tiny
The last time they did this they got Husqvar and they used the Marcy buff on the couriers to cut mid wave against
Husqvar with the courier. So like technically speaking if they do run Nisha tiny mid
There's less of those like you know toxic counters to it that exists because you now have the courier tech that Nisha
You'd think it's like a one-off thing, but I guarantee you go back and watch every game
He's against Huskar and they have Marcy. He's doing this like this is a trend. It's something he thinks is good
It's something that is good. I think the hero that I'm scared for or I'd hopefully be thinking about for liquid is for Yandex
I guess ember on 18 because embers really good versus the tiny in my opinion the mid lane
Marcy carries Okavers, like Marcy will buy BTBs so you're kind of good for Sambur, but in the sense that
good mid heroes, I think 18 Ember just seems really subtle. Even pairs with the Largo really well.
One thing that we have been critical
for teams picking Largo is when they double pick support after Largo.
I think Heroic did catch some strays in their draft when they did it. They did lose the game to be fair, but
Yeah, next time revealed lago. No, it's like yeah, we you are
So yeah, no flex
I was expecting lago maybe to be a five or off lane sure, but not to be the case at all
And that liquid can utilize that themselves
To be fair though aren't those two supports just very solid to get those are really solid sports. Of course
Yeah, yeah, I think though to me the warlock could have been something else like a core if there's good carry or mid or something
Because there's no a liquid would take warlocks. Yeah
They have however taken a hoodwink. So they're also revealing their tiny
It could be carry Marcy mid-tiny
Centaur offline or it could with a hoodwink or it could be tiny centaur and you technically would win by right?
Yes tofu tofu can play hoodwink fire. So
Marcy tiny and hoodwink all are interchangeable to yeah, two or maybe even three roles
specifically tiny mossy so yeah it's up in the air and that's where Yandex just
respect the fact that liquid is aggressive they're gonna be pairing their heroes
together looking for kill potential playing on runes using the twin gate
fighting your wisdoms and now Yandex they need a carry and a mid that can
kind of counterplay that. I still think Ember is super good for Yandex it's
really good with Largo really good with Warlock great versus the tiny mid
they could bend some random Huskar if they're that scared of it being
like some gigaflex with the tiny and carry wise I think there's enough carries
that they can get something on 23 and it could also just like casual storm
because I know with Largo people yeah people really like the like mana buff or
they go for Beastmaster and that hero was still in the pool I mean that can be
the carry or the mid like likely likely the carry for Yandex but it could
still technically be both it is here to be it I'm awkward around this hero so is
Yandex a true oh yeah they're on three that's one god just because liquid has
tiny to toss away the the person gets rod and then they have picked me up on
Marcy took a grab the person that yeah that's true yeah so a lot of Yandex's
gameplay it's shaman or beast jumping a guy and liquid already have tools to
save that guy through repositioning yeah that that that is very true even
scale with the cart true so then a lot of ways to save the like single target with
the roar what when Beast gets to the eggs and Largo gets to the eggs and they
throw some fatal bonds like that is some you're deleted from the game yeah that
is some pretty crazy a we damaged wasn't it a yesterday after super long
series that said that they feel a Beastmaster late game falls off a cliff
yes and that is Yandex's entire draft right they are they're gonna be being
efficiently only game they can be climbing this cliff getting to the
summit and if they don't utilize it correctly they're all holding hands and
jumping off it what you're saying is a lot in the living yes exactly coming in a
minute game it's a quick favorite because it in the 80 minute game that's
gonna happen right now yeah exactly it's not gonna be yandex is playing for the
17-minute mark yeah yandex is a says that and then he has these 80 minute
games in the series and I just feel like when you get to 80 minutes in
Dota like that's not even a late game anymore that's hyper late game we're
like your support is actually your highest damage dealing hero because everyone's level 30 you can just like crazy talents like your
Lich gets a bloodthorn
Crazy shit happens at that point. So
They're setting up for the ember. I'd be surprised if it doesn't bend it
I think they showed it's like to it's too obvious that the pick unless they have something kind of prepared for it
Well, it because it's ember void or a storm
those three are we gonna see in any kind of configuration here the last three
picks or I think I mean the second best if not potentially best now you think
about it as Queen of Pain that hero works so good with Largo you amp the
damage by like crazy amounts it also lands pretty well versus the tiny and I
really like to push back versus Marcy because like she commits on a core you
push them out and you kind of kite to fight out
Oh, that's like my cup. Put that in anyway. Yeah, Viper. How about that one?
I'm
Not a huge fan of you gonna you listed a lot of playmakers, right?
But what about just winning the lane if we're talking about a 15 minute timing of acts beats acts logo if you win a lane
That's the best way to get to a timing. Well, I don't like the Viper because I
Think if if I was
Liquid and I see Viper I would put the Marcia support with a tiny mid and you just killed the Viper
Yeah, I prefer the Ember.
I'm just trying to offer up the other...
If my bridge is scary when there's a potential Marci support, like if you have any stun or catch on mid,
you just like avalanche the guy, Marci TP's in, throws him back, then you toss him back further, he's dead.
Sure it can happen to an Ember too, but at least Ember's gonna be good for the game.
Yeah, the Andexes have an abundance of damage, right?
When you, for any of these combination of heroes together, you are gonna be killing Liquid,
and Liquid, you could argue if they don't win their lanes, it is a lot of farm required to get them online, right?
Centaur, Marsy, if that's your double corduroy, you want the Marsy to get a couple items to be ready.
You want BKB to be used correctly.
Centaur needs his auras. So I am looking at Yannix to
change the script of Liquid's game so far because Liquid has been exceptional in the early game, just building up good leads.
Yeah, if you're talking about early game, I've been told Largo is a bad laner.
Ember Spirit is good, but it is going to be Liquid getting the overall last pick,
so they can still decide what they feel like is strong against it.
Is Yannick's gonna win their their Beastmaster lane then? Is that like their only?
Yeah, they should win it. If they have the Warlock with it, it's versus Centaur so it's not like a crazy
Any Centaur would be very strong, but I think Beast Warlock is as strong
My biggest question is this hero. I think they're gonna pick a position 5 for the
Marci and do Marci carry
The question is like what is the strongest 5 they can pick. I still think the Tusk is really good
It's also save or another save. I don't know in the last series there's so much random
like kiting in the fights between like the ringmaster in the game we saw there
was a tusk in another it was just like all these random stuff is like we
couldn't kill a hero so I think just having the ability to do that is good
dangerous from only a drafter but a position five up please match this
smirk with the hero. It has to...
They got nine seconds left.
Marana.
That's not a reaction for Marana.
It's a tinker!
It does match the smirk to you, fair.
When you have that type of face,
that's like the old school
picking the broods, the huskies, the tinkers.
That was a man who was
digging into the archives.
The Nisha tinker was an absolute menace,
but it also
struggled to some degree.
was lost lost yeah there's this factor the rounder right guys but nation's farm
was incredible for the idea that you know like Largo is just gonna legit AFK for
15 minutes so you just pick the most like cancerous hero ever to abuse the
fact that he's doing that you know also if you want AFK well I will AFK and
then we have tinker and you have Largo and we'll just see what's more toxic
But there is a very specific timing when Yandex is very super strong when he does get the Aghanim Scepter on Largo.
And the question is, will Liquid be ready for that one on time?
I think they will because Nisha on Tinker is going to have the early game farm.
There's not enough map pressure, tower taking potential for Yandex.
Nisha will have it.
And I think the Matrix on Tinker, they talked about saving heroes.
Matrix will save the guy who gets Rord, will save the guy who gets Shaman grabbed.
So that alone could offset a lot of his timing from Yandex, yeah.
I think the BKB timings favor Yandex because they have the Beastmaster, they get like some good jump, they get all commit, and I don't think Liquid has like the fight in them post BKB at that like phase in the game, like when it gets later in the game, BKB's matter less and less, but I think there's going to be like a point in the game where you have all those bonus turns from Largo, all those bonus turns from Beast and it just gets kind of awkward.
of course, Team Liquid thinks that they can beat the Largo.
Let's find out if they can give themselves
a little bit of a draft advantage going forward
in this best of five.
I don't know one guy that believes they can do it.
It's of course Blitz, who's talking to Slacks right now.
Absolutely, Sheba.
Yes, we have Blitz here.
Blitz, Dota, you told me yesterday
some dumb team is going to let the Largo go
because they're overthinking it.
Is this what happened?
I'm sorry, I have the hiccups, Blitz.
Is this what happened here today?
Man, I'm tired
Tofu said it'd be kind of funny if we did it for one game and if we're gonna do it for any game in a best of five
It's this one
so
Absolutely, so the tinker comes out last pick
You know it worked pretty well pretty sneaky pretty toxic. Is that the toxicity that we need to defeat Largo? Yeah, I mean
365 minutes 70 many games weren't enough so he said run it back one more time
Do you think that this might be the biggest marathon of Dota you will ever experience?
You said you were exhausted walking in the building the 370
370 I'm sorry. I was a hiccup the 370 minigames and now the 570 minigames. I mean, I've slept like
No hours. I'm very tired. I would like to get a little bit of sleep. That'd be nice
So it's kind of miserable right now like I'm I am on like six hours of sleep
I feel kind of ill. It's not great, but we'll get through this because I want to win. There's one more a
Little bit more and we'll get through this a little bit more together. We will defeat this terrible day and come out big
Thank you so much Blitz down. Let's get it up there. All right. Thank you so much into the game
Slacks boom
Try to scare him out his hiccups there
I don't know if it worked.
We'll get ourselves into the game one, especially the five as Liquid drop the frog in the cauldron.
We'll see if you notice that if that water starts boiling, they do have a lot of tempo
through this draft while Yandex, I mean what a timing when they hit the ragnar acceptors.
Yeah, they look like they're definitely going to play on a super strong timing.
Their supports are also aligned with it.
You have these pushing supports, the warlock, the rust, the combinations that can take
out towers early.
So they definitely want to end this game before we head into those ultra late game
scenarios.
And Team Liquid, I mean, Lips looks like he's tired, but the draft kinda wants to go late.
Yeah, yeah, drag things out with this tinker.
They can play fast through the tiny, the marsy for sure, through the ultis and the cash they get for this tinker.
And the panel is saying, if you're looking at this lago, what AFK for 17 minutes buying Agatim Scepter,
Beastmaster's same story, Nisha pretty happy to just fall out as well.
Yeah, it's a different approach. I mean, I think Nisha is gonna be hard to shut down in this game.
Yes, you can have some action with Ember pairing up with the double supports later on, but lacking that pressure that offlaners can bring
might make it hard to just shut down the tinker the way you need to.
And we've seen time and time again, this hero can find a lot of farm on the map.
Already, 4 and 5, getting a nice leg up in this lane through the laser, getting some good denies here against Chira Jr. or CJ.
And there he's being nicely called there by the panel.
Does have a couple of creeps coming under his tower and should be able to secure them.
And this Ember Spirit, it feels like he's one of, if not the hero of the tournament,
playing out of this mid lane and being able to pick up the pace.
Yeah, we meanwhile have tiny struggling to get the pull through as the boar is denying him
the availability to go in there as Maltec is just running on him,
staying within the Shadow Word heal radius. Smart play from the two of them.
Yeah, it's so strong when you have these carry heroes, like Beastmaster here,
we've had the Lunar in the past, some of the ranged heroes who can join the support battle
Without really committing their hero, so they're farming plus getting that harassment and zoning yeah top lane already going pretty well
From Marcy leading the CS charts. This is what we expect. No melody. Oh, he's dead
Boxy and ace get on top of him and are able to drag the wave cut the toss back into the center
It's a scary thing because sent are you can either toss him in or toss them on towards him either way
They're gonna be in trouble. Yeah, the old holy hang grenade
And as top lane you have DM, you reckon Longo not the strongest of laners paired up with
the Shadow Sharpen here.
Is it going to be another job for Saksa to drag waves back and reset his laning club
rim or are we just trying to play straight 2v2?
It's a bit hard to go and pull the lane for Rasta, he's such a slow hero.
It's deep on mid.
In behind.
Slide a fist and searing chain soon.
He's got a couple of bottle charges and a fairy fire, but 40 health remaining.
It's just a straight up solo kill.
You're a junior.
playing under the lowest pool. Disposed back, sounds in trouble, but he gets his spells off.
Nikkei rebounds over the top with a lick back, keeps the Shadow Shalvin alive momentarily before
Liquid finish the job. Now Tofu trying to go toe to toe with DM's Lago. Oh, he's gotta pull him out.
Oh, he missed it because quelling. Oh, he didn't even click it. Oh. No, he quelled
super fast on the iron branch. I thought he was going to use the acorn shot, but he
tried it with branch trick instead. So he put the branch down, then push back by the quelling
DM just spamming it.
Uh, DM knew what was up.
Make sure not to get caught.
And now you're looking at liquid pretty low on resources in this top lane.
So a lick back into the frogs, stomping in onto Mickey.
Saksa comes back full of resources, gets the kill with DM.
Pretty aggressive dive down bottom as well.
They don't want to give easy farm on the tower as a center.
Struggling to get a CS due to this aggression coming in.
Goodness, yeah, look where they are.
That wave is gonna go all the way to that.
Tier 2, no no, thanks, I'm gonna be able to get the aggro and drag it back in.
What's honest on a great job with this micro so far?
Beastmaster, very very oppressive sapling hero.
Or the catch to Rasta up top, can throw him back.
You can try with the acorn shot, the slow down, Shadow Sharman disposed back in here.
Just get out of spells, healing up a little bit with the shackles and it will take a while to die.
Mika and Tofu on his tail.
But this is the kind of move where, what is that, 10? 15 seconds?
where Shadow Sharman drags him out of wave, and that means Largo is happy.
Yeah, a long amount of time, Nisha again getting Dove.
Tine is going to come across though.
Tinker still holding the water rune, seems pretty comfortable.
Trying to find that kind of kill on the Ember Spirit, but Cherojune just slips away.
Foxy was thinking about the aggressive toss there, but I think their respect, the slider fist dodged against the toss.
If he dodges, then suddenly Tinker would be the one in trouble.
And Foxy going to try and make sure there's no redundancy in his movement.
Got some stands before he returns that bottom lane
Has left ace alone down here and he has started to really struggle in terms of keeping up with the last hits
Yeah, we're starting in seven. There's an important kill they got earlier, but at the same time all I have a jump across
All barrier there for a tinker I just get some distance
But with Saks are coming in from that north-west side
Another kill for Chiro Junior on a killing spree
That's such an important move coming in with the Rastas while shutting down tinker is gonna be harder and harder
We go into the mid game. So getting him in laning stage. This is when you can really hurt him
I do what would be smoked to what because there's two die awards watching for the
Access point into mid. I think you just didn't expect to get held for that long. Maybe so
I need you underestimating saxes skills
Four to three pretty even in the kills, but it feels like it's team yandex who are
Vibing a bit more with a map playing that all bit crisper
Stacks being made meanwhile, Tiny is preparing for the Tinker's comeback mechanic.
Six minutes in, guarding rune.
That's going to be spawning bottom where Boxy steals it.
So no refill and no continual aggression from that Ember.
So that should slow things down. I'm very thankful for it.
I think Yannix are probably very happy with how this game is going so far.
DM getting really nice farm up top, you have this momentum over on your Ember,
over on your ember getting three kills already six minutes in and Beastmasters of
course owning lane. They dive this mid lane again, Tinker trying to gap the ember
spirit but toss back not enough to keep Chura Junior at bay even under the march
of the machines they get the kill. Well top lane at least liquid do slay the
frog, DM has fallen. Yeah that's why we didn't see a TP from Tofu, he did have
TP ready but prioritizing shutting down the top lane to have a catapult wave
pushing, can finally get some damage. Thinking about the wisdom invasion, Mickey's going behind.
Trying to get through there. Saxa disposed back in towards Tofu as well, but Chirojuna's coming in
with the two-man chains, earned onto Mickey. I'll play not enough to get Saxa out of there,
but it looks like Chirojuna's going to rebuff the efforts of Liquid to contest.
Meanwhile, Beastmaster has taken the opposing side, so double wisdom shrine.
Yeah, Beastmaster and Warlock hard to fight into.
He has really just had Ace's number Ace playing Centaur and going towards the classic helm of Dominator build, but it's so delayed and this is a very timing based item.
Centaur wants Dominator fast so that he can start ramping up his farm. Here, you're not gonna see him get that good start.
It can also be a tool to delay the game though, right? With wave dragging you can slow things down, so maybe that's also a goal here for Liquid just to make sure the tower push doesn't come in too quickly.
I mean, it's a must-go item basically. I don't see any Central Player skipping Dominator ever. It's just that good on him.
Yeah, so good.
I'm sure Junior feeling pretty comfortable here to play boldly past the mid-tier one.
He's got to be wary of Avalanche and a Bushwack from Fog.
Nothing really consistent can catch this Ember Spirit out, which allows him a lot of freedom to play forward.
Yeah, and he's going to be lucky. It is bottom rune. Top was controlled by Hoodwink, but it's going to be a region going the way Ember.
No charges on urn just yet.
We'll see if we're able to get some...
...with a couple of supports moving into mid.
Nice. I mean, there's a lot of attention around him right now,
and I think that's because Warlock as well is very close to hitting level 6.
Once he gets that, we're gonna see that tower pressure coming in.
And he should try to catch up through the jungle,
and scanning the Shadow Shaman and Warlock as they moved into position.
But the Radiant vision sees Tiny arriving, Tofu with Boxy.
They're here onto the Shadow Shaman. Unleashed from McGang should secure the kill as the fatal
bombs. Not enough to deter them and the Spirit is engaging while they fast forward tofu.
But DM has come across from that top lane. Got a respect in the end. Nice investment though,
so bringing over your POS1, securing your jungle. Because I think invading and stealing stacks
is going to be a big, big target for Yandex here. Getting in and taking away any recovery
farm for Tinker. Meanwhile, of course, you're farming the side of the map, he has the Kaia
already. And although there's a few minutes at the beginning, it looks a little shaky
for Liquid, it's all leveled out now. Sipping the scales back, keeping this even. And coming
into the mid lane to defend tier one, where the Golem's been dropped to push on in, and
Chiridunia spotting out an issue here, just cool, hello, how you doing? Past the
region, so he should be completely fine, despite the damage. And don't want to
to play into stacks of marching machines.
All those marchers managed to push away the golem for a while though, they might be able
to hold onto the tower.
It looks like it, with Boxy coming in, kind of difficult here with just the two of them.
Tira is insisting on it though, running behind and cutting the way.
Saksa thinks he's pushed Ace away, but now Nishus come in, so defending all these
towers as much as possible.
Glyffing and marching, and Saksa just gonna throw the shackle onto Ace to show
him who's boss.
Well, finally, mid-tier one has died.
That wasn't a fast mid tower that they wanted so normally you throw the golem take the tower and then move somewhere else
This golem is timing out in five seconds. He won't really have time to look for a second objective with this can't steal any farm
And he's just going to go in and try and plant some some vision throwing a century on the ancients
Sherrod Jr. has had his hands on pretty much every active rune
My ability is just to play into every rune spot guarded by supports and a bit of unlock for liquid as well
We need to bring back that word from Dota 1.
Lucker.
Jirijunia's a Lucker.
Getting all the runes spawns.
He really is.
The region rune was very nice for him and now the illusion rune as well.
Being able to dispel.
You can get rid of the laser in some situations as we see the stacks being cleared.
Grammar be damned.
English is an evolving language.
Lucker is a real thing.
We're playing up towards top but it feels like Mickey here with the reed thanks
to boxy's tiny giving vision of the approach.
Chara Junior not going to be able to go for it, and all of the stacks being made.
Yeah, there's a few builds, by the way, on Cary Marcy. We saw it previously with I.O.,
and then we saw the Arneth build here without an I.O. to give you the steroids you need on Marcy
to really ramp. Yeah, it's going to be a dominated build on him as well.
Shackle, Bushwack catching out the Shatter Shaman.
Sniping him there with a Stampede from Ace. Good little pick from Liquid,
making sure that they're able to play out these lanes. Really extending the
the laning stage for as long as possible in these side lanes in particular.
Yeah, they're trying to hold onto it, keep a stagnant laning stage, but of course the
tempo is going to be inevitable as 20 seconds K.R.Coffeering is going to open up another
tower.
And there's like multiple reasons for this, right?
I mean, Santo, Marcy, not the best heroes like clearing out big old ancient stacks
or anything like that just yet, and primarily Tinker wants to be the one farming jungle.
So you want your two calls to be sacked in side lanes, creating the pocket that
Nisha can sit in yeah I mean you always have to act as shields basically for
the tinker give him space he has reached the key target though he's got the
blink dagger within reach he's not going to sell in a branch where they can finish it
they make a go on the centaur knowing the stamp needs down go along with shackles
and even a roar from Watson to make sure eight hits the ground oh straight
into the building as well the March will not be able to stop this I think
is the siege war to happen war pine raider versus samurai go look who's
gonna come out on top alligator versus guerrilla we have one those warrior versus
warrior situations again I think with the marches at least they're slowing down
the push but again one more tier tier one tower the map is shrinking for team
liquid and this is where things really ramp up for Yandex right we're 13
minutes in we're approaching this period where Agilem Scepter is gonna
start getting completed and from there on out is about Roshan thinking
about Tormentor okay active move coming in from liquid going through the
the gates knowing that the golem is on cooldown. They also know the roar is still on cooldown
so this is a good timing to abuse. They recognize it. Going behind.
I pause to think about it. 6-7, a 1k lead for Yandex, still feeling like they've got
the vibes this game but it's not settled. I'm likely going to be able to get him behind
this Beastmaster. This is a dangerous moment for Yandex.
They could try to react by bringing a lot of people over but again this Largo just
wants to farm. He's 2,000 gold away from his peak timing, so he's mostly just going to hit creeps.
I think they're probably just going to let it go. His move might work out.
I mean Ember does have hasteroom TP.
Yeah, he wants to fight. He will show up to anything that happens right now.
No vessel charges, which is kind of annoying, and the speed at which this P-Smasher dies.
And liquid is coming, sniping down and snapping forward, looking for more.
Bonus kill and Malady's wall on.
Catch him on the tower and transfer this into an objective of the road.
Quick and clean. That's going to be a tower push from them.
Meanwhile, Nisha manages to fend off the Ember.
Sakusai is looking to set up on something, but there's still plenty of heroes.
Shackles there, off of the hoodwink.
Chirodunia will arrive with a chains on center on the back as well,
but he's got that hurricane rebound.
Pick me up back in with a stomp down on Shadow Shaman and Ember.
Sakus dropping low, but they're protected by the serpent wards.
Another catch here with a chains to go and Mikkei with the spree.
He's taken down and that's 500 gold into the pocket of Chirodunia.
That was such a nice searing chain as well.
Chair Jr. catches him before he can come close enough to cancel the shackle,
making sure to control and Chair Jr. off to a popping start.
And now 14 minutes, perfect timing as well to win a team fight.
Get Askernich, move towards Wisdom Shrine, and probably get another double.
Ace, understanding.
I'm not going to be able to contest this.
He's going to run towards safety while we might save him.
Maybe, but he's already died.
Oh wait, he didn't get it off?
He didn't get the hurricane out.
So it just gets clapped down by DM's frog?
Another kill.
He knew they were coming for the wisdom, but didn't quite respect that they would check the high ground as well.
This is all room for Watson to finish off the Agatom Scepter.
A ton of stacks there, 11 from Yandex.
Really utilizing the jungle as best they can,
while we've got about 900 gold until Largo has his.
Yeah, I do think the idea of Liquid has failed pretty bad here in the early game.
the idea to address the Largo and Laning stage,
shut him down with a Marcy that we've seen before in tournament.
Danny, when Largo goes 1-0-1 in the first, what, six minutes?
Yeah, this start is extremely good for Yandex.
And we're seeing them just keep the pace up with Ember.
Right, Chere Junior, he's in on Tiny.
Can't pick me up and rebound him away, but he can, just TP.
Back to base, but that's still conceding area.
Yeah, you live, but you TP backwards.
You lose territory any time that you TP out, so.
Feels good to not die, but you know what's happening top tower is being tied up overall though
It doesn't feel disastrous for liquid, right?
No, their plan hasn't necessarily succeeded as they would have wanted against this logo
But tinker is farming Marcy is farming and they're going to be able to scale and hit their own timings
Even though Yandex will probably just absorb the entirety of the map
In is Marcy jump to the cheer of junior gets the stun on the ember
But his golem drop and fatal bomb is dishing down and going to mid game.
And he's gonna run away with no more chase while Ace is in the midst of it all.
Takes out Faxi in the trade but Tiny and Tinker in trouble now.
Chirra Jr. picks up a double kill.
So much impact coming out from the supports to golem and the wards.
You just can't stay and fight there. Team Liquid have to run away in the end.
And again, that was a death for Ace.
You mentioned before they don't feel too bad.
Tinker and Marcia are farming. Can't help but notice.
One core was not mentioned there, Garen.
Yeah, I know.
Ace is not having a good game at all. This is a disaster start for them.
It's always Helm, but yeah, trying to move as quickly as it can into his next item.
Barely ahead of his support, the hoodwink.
Yeah, a lot of this, I feel, as well is done to how they chose to lane it.
The last tanker was an adaptation, came as a curveball,
but it sacrificed the laning stage a little bit by making it so they had to lane Tiny and Centaur,
which is a neat combo. They can do some cool stuff, but for laning stage it's not oppressive.
It's not strong enough to shut down a Beastmaster, never mind a warlock.
And this is now Beastmaster Act Blink, Syro Junior with Spirit Vessel Kaia.
The Largo has Agadamn Scepter. You've lost all of your Tier 1 towers,
so if you want to keep access to the high-value jungle camps,
which you need to be able to scale, you're going to have to fight over it.
So Boxy and Tofu have a lot on their plate here to keep the vision up
and make sure they can see when the advance is coming.
Yeah, I think there's an insane amount of pressure on Nisha's shoulders right now.
He needs to get the Agadamn Scepter as soon as possible,
and then dish out tons of damage into fights because right now
they are basically ready on the side of Yandex to just completely shut out the game
the next five minutes are going to be so difficult to survive for Liquid
it tags two minutes faster than average
pretty damn good for DM here on his Largo as he goes for boxing
attempts the TP realizes he can't complete it
and goes for the little runaway into the jungle but Saxon and Malady
close on his tail there bring the pebble down
getting clapped by the frog while shackled up
no way for him to get safety
And it's still so early. It's 17 minutes, so three minutes still to go for Tormentor.
They have full control of the top area on Radiant, but I think they want to make more moves towards towers, invades.
Of course, the Andex are fully aware that Nisha is going to make the most of every second you give him to farm.
Meanwhile, important timing coming up. 600 gold for the BKB on Miike.
I think that could be a pivotal moment where they're able to send in the Marci and actually right-click,
right click because right now it's hard Rasta just shuts her down Rasta has
blink dagger of course but if you get the BKB maybe a jump on Beastmaster
fight could go their way. Saks are going for a little warding mission.
We'll lose this entry. Doesn't get the D-Ward. I think we're gonna hold on to
this part of the map. There is a scan down south knowing that Nisha's around
looks like Beastmaster was a little afraid of holding that position so
what's going to dip. For now it looks like Alex just want to keep control of the top area realizing
we've seen before we talked a bit about how some teams have swapped from this area and then as a
result if you lose control there you might lose the tormentors well so they're not rushing in to
take all the towers and they're not swinging down bottom to invade the triangle but instead
holding the priority area one minute to go and then Torum is spawning with the Aegis it's very
hard to contest. Now we had Narvae go for bottom tier 2 in this identical position
basically and lose traction on the map but the Andex here have a good purchase
on that top jungle with the vision with the positioning here with Chiro Jr.
basically feeling invincible. Invis ruined up and I've said that of course I've
cursed him. Goal and drop to protect him though and Chiro Jr. is going to break free.
BKD from Mickey. He's on the Shatter Sharman gets the blow up on him.
Sons are down and liquid they hold their ground but that's a BKB spent for a
Shatter-Shalvin kill. I think it's fine still because Golem was also used. Sure
the Golem is still you know a useful thing to have on the map it gives you
this vision but I think it's okay you forced out one big teamfight spell.
Probably dreams of contesting the tormentor are far away for liquid
though just use this timing wisely and farm.
Chia Junior, spots make it without B to be ready.
He did see him though. Good sentry by Tophu from earlier.
Oh you're right, yeah.
Tophu has thought ahead, he planned ahead for this.
I mean Malty knows as well, pings it out, saying they need some vision over in that area.
Both teams being efficient across the map farming up, Beastmaster is going for this agonims into blink.
I really like they did not go for like second item Shadowblade or something,
Instead of just go for the grunt work, you know, then what do you need to go for as the semester?
Agnus, Blink, BKB, and then the Silver Edge will come up as an option for him.
It's not the fastest, but they have a lot of sustain between Largo and Warlock.
I wonder if DM ever actually played Guitar Hero.
I was basically the same thing playing Largo, strumming away.
Yeah. Yeah, we were actually chatting about Largo earlier, right?
And you said that it's basically Guitar Hero, and that made me think.
It's basically like an easy song on Guitar Hero.
We need to arcane us for Largo and, you know, new facets and stuff.
Make it make it so he has some more challenging notes.
Yeah, it's no dragon force, that's for sure.
Or maybe it's a bit of a bit of barracuda or something from half.
As Ace is going to get slain down in the bottom lane by DM Watson and Saksa.
And they're going to smoke up and immediately head through that twin gate,
playing up into top jungle where Marcy is currently residing.
Yeah, Marcy, going for an Agathem Scepter next, so realizing that all these heroes on Radiant are very spell-dependent,
trying to get towards the Agathem, so you get the silence.
Very useful. You can just punch your way and you cancels some random shackles, or stop the Ember from jumping away.
Oh, Paulie was safe on the tower, didn't he?
Rebound his wall, put himself over, but this is a perfect position for Watson to strike.
Get the kill on the carry, Serpent Wars the tower,
And now it's down to Anisha to try and hold them back
Yeah, he had the word felt safe in the area, but they were above not below the barbarians that you gate now
That's scouting there sees tofu and boxy in the back, but it looks like without raw
Chera junior Watson just gonna be disciplined
Ages is timing out but also coincides with them having the BKBO Beastmaster, so he's gonna be completely fine still
And it's an early Agadamns build coming out from Maldic, I like that.
Drums into Agadamns on the warlock.
He's actually got some really nice net worth already too.
It's the turbo build man.
No glimmer, no solar crest, none of this nonsense.
Full staffs?
No!
I mean this is playing into the strength that we highlighted.
They want to push, they want to take those buildings, not go late game.
Not jump off the cliff.
Exactly.
Here comes the jump from Mikke though.
Like quick.
on to Maladay to throw him back into a rebound stop.
Very well executed, kill on the support, opens up this area of the map now for Team Liquid.
Both teams have this strong change done possibility, one team of course coming in with the Roar
and the Shackles, but at the same time Team Liquid have a pretty good control as well,
Centaur, Tiny, Marci and Woodwind can disable as well.
Are they all going aggs on Yandex? Is Shackles going to queue it up as well?
Team Aghanim. Just Team Aghanim, Sector.
Ah, yes, the Etherlands are now queued up, so...
Not yet, but maybe we'll get to that point.
It's a very rare occurrence that you get that.
I got a roar on the Sector.
He's got Stampede and he'll try to get away,
but the frog is there as the tinker shackled.
He's caught and held in place.
Watson unloads the damage and Nisha is dead.
Man, playing that aggressively without the B2B yet on tinker is so dangerous.
The tinker is down now for a while, means Yandex.
They can just spring forward and maybe look for more as Chiro Jr. scouts out Mikkei.
He doesn't make a B, but he has to use it.
He has to use it defensively.
Was close to Saxa getting in range for a blink there.
If he managed to blink across, could turn into three cores dead.
But this Amberspirit, 702, has had a nice lane into easy game
and he can itemize as he wants.
Like, he doesn't have to go for any kind of BKB, Yule Scepter,
doesn't need to go for this Kaio-San, Shiba's Guard as defensive tools.
He can just go all out aggressive?
Yeah, Chair Jurnius insanely good at playing this type of hero, by the way.
Ember is not his trademark necessarily, but it's very similar to what he's good at anyway.
He plays Puck.
Yeah, he plays Puck insanely well, his Queen, and these are jumping heroes to play very
similarly, so he adapts very well to this patch.
That's in a great spot now.
Got the Saks of Serpent Ward, doing a lot of chip damage.
Boxing makes the jump, and I've got Chainstone's Galore on for the Ember spirit.
The Castor's Curse is as strong as Ember.
I just had to try it, you know, just
He's amazing at Ember, dies immediately
Just put your thumb on the scale, give Liquid a chance
Sierra Junior thought he was invulnerable
But he's gonna lose Shatter Shaven in the back as well
So Liquid, they come back
With a couple of kills, the question always is though
What next?
Yeah, it's gonna be hard for him to do much more
Than just stabilize and get the waves out
They're looking at the warlock
He might have pushed too far
That's the TP, but Boxing, he's there with the avalanche
That's Tiny
Lifting up liquid spirits with this aggression, this ability to jump on heroes, find targets and kill them.
God, this is very important kills for them. They're so far behind already, networthwise.
The tempo that they came out with on Yandex from that lane stage has been immense.
Yeah, we have a full nullifier already.
Beastmaster recognizing that in this game, glimmer cape and tinker barrier, it's already so nice to have a dispell.
And the panel were talking about Yandex's peak, right, getting to the top of the mountain
with the Aghanim's timings and then the BKBs and the initiation tools after.
What timing are we actually looking at?
Is it a number on the clock or is it a vibe?
Is it liquid resistance?
I would say like pre-minute 36 is when they want to basically be ending the game.
Okay.
That's the peak timing for them.
They can go later if they control the entire map.
So the face is void timing then?
Yeah, similar, similar. A little bit later I would say, but they can catch the hoodwink here, chain stuns of course.
But this is the reason it's going to be fine for them if they go a little bit later. Their burst potential, their pick-off potential on Yandex is still insanely strong.
So if they just choke out Liquid from getting on the map, they're fine to farm out a little bit.
Just don't fall into the heroic trap where you're super far ahead, but don't actually mash the end of the game.
Yeah, you've got to convert your lead into that actual finishing blow.
And Nisha just gonna sit and protect himself in the march as he clears that bottom wave.
But with Roshan respawning Team Yandex, they're already in the pit.
Now Liquid have BKB Tinker and they are repositioning themselves here from mid with Smoke ready to get into position.
It's pretty late though, the Roshas already dropped.
Do they still want to make a jump?
They could have this element of surprise, but it's very scary.
Yeah, Ember trying to lead the way did not spot the tinker. You know that was right on the money
Also dangerous for Ember to go first still as the jump from Boxy they go on the ember
But he slides out go and drop the jump in from Watson by the roar on tinker
BKB's up in Asia boxy being finished off in the back as the ember comes back in with some slight change to catch
Liquid looking to reset as they've spent their PKB's in there on the run
Liquid has to run so far the frog is coming though, and I've got another catch on the center all locked in place
No, the fight up as well meets his maker
That was very controlled coming out from yandex the fight starts
But then they realize okay Marcy ulti we need to just reset a little bit run away from it and didn't feed into the possible damage
Output from tinker and Marcy combined and then through just sustainability of having warlock and Largo
They're gonna win a long fights if liquid are gonna win a fight. It has to be very fast
And currently the proverbial lemmings of Team Yandex not being guided by the production crew to jump off the cliff
They are currently perfectly fine at the top of the mountain
As we see them grouping up towards the bottom tier 2 attempting to hold onto it, but
So dangerous against the gollum night vision can even catch you
Watch out for that warlock alone
I see people still in like 13k MMR pubs getting caught up 14k it doesn't matter people forget about this thing
It randomly sees you.
No, it does a lot.
I'm tier 2 tower on the menu.
High ground vision from the dire.
Liquid see the approach from Yandex.
Boxy tries to make the jump, but shatter sharp and he gets there first.
Laser comes out, gets blown up, sacks us down, but lets forward.
Marsy goes in on the frog.
Largo trying to be protected by Walson.
Gets the BKB and the runaway off.
It's too fast.
Like I'm gonna TP from Tinker in.
The center is down so they couldn't follow up with Nisha quite in time
in time and the frog is fast enough to survive. Man, kind of wish he had that
bash here to hold him in place and keep pummeling him but Largo just gets to
sprint to safety and once he starts playing that song and running away you're
not catching up to him. It's just too difficult. Still a good pick-off they
held on to the area, good to kill on Rustoth. Winning any fights when the
opponents have ages is, you know, difficult order.
And this Angadim Sceptrum Mars is pretty annoying for Yandex.
Amber, Lago, Shattershaw, and everyone here are very reliant on spamming out their spells.
Yeah, it also does give her a little bit lower cooldown on the ulti, so it's harder to abuse if she pops ulti and then making a power play afterwards.
We did a boxy queuing up the Shadowblade, that's interesting to see.
We've seen a lot of core Shadowblades, but on Tiny, this game I think Tossbacks are gonna be one of their key resources to use.
a surprise jump. Exactly. I would have expected him to go for staff, Yule, something like that,
but Chappellay is definitely a more aggressive choice.
Liquid trying to put up that brick wall to stop Yandex from advancing across the map,
and it feels like it's going to come again with another wave of aggression.
Two minutes left, also on the Aegis and a five-man smoke from Yandex.
Moves them to high ground where Tofu's smoke breaking. Chira Jr straight into the back
and Shadow Shaman, Volotis bounces the hex back, Stampede gets off, Liquid jump in, they want to try to get mature at Junior,
but the goal of the drop with a faithful pawns, that damage is too much, all Liquid gets shredded!
And now Nisha has the BKB TP!
Is he going to be fine? He gets to safety, what a goal I'm coming up by Maladik there.
Beautiful catch onto everyone at the perfect timing, and now they can just siege up.
Well the power of Goros, Mardi comes in and Fatal Ponds doing tremendous damage as well.
They're still dead for 20, Tinker is a good defending hero but not easy to defend against
these possible links here.
And those rogis keep sustaining them as they dive on in onto Topu.
Hoodwing down for 50 seconds and Tier 3's falling.
He's got the attack speed talent, look at them all go, smack, the upheaval.
The goal of me is lacking the buildings but that's the last boss.
Oh yeah, hoodwink gone for 30, I think they're still going to back out though, resources were spent.
Man, they've got a creep wave in mid, but that's not enough to push up top lane.
Controlled aggression, that's going to be the key to success for Yambix.
Don't over-commit in the enemy base, get caught by Tinker and then start feeding him.
Instead of going back up, farm up a next wave of items.
Man, there's top lane to be defended, tons of creeps to be farmed.
Tormentor is there now, respawned and ready to be grabbed as well.
Yeah, and the next timing I think they're going to hit is going to be insane.
wants to get the BKB on Ember so he can actually go in first because there are so many disables.
He has to have played very carefully and precisely on Shiera up until this moment.
Once he gets BKB, he can just jump in. It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to have any fear.
And that will open up the eyes of his team.
At the same time, we see Mika going for itemization towards damage.
Crystal listen to Daedalus is the choice.
I think they do need more bursts.
Tinker obviously has a lot, but he can't really do much during the BQBs.
I still is crazy.
How quickly this Beastmaster can conduct his team
to get faster and faster.
The Exalarando from Beastmaster.
Massive network, the 25K
and being able to play out the map
thanks to Chirijunior being so far forward
and scouting out moves from Liquid.
There's something to be said about this game looking 23 to 16, kill score looks pretty
even, but then you realise only three deaths ever were on Yandex's course.
Yes, huge, shinkered, shackled, bit tofu, trying to break him free.
They've got Beastmaster nearby but it looks like Sax is shatter-sharming, just going to
pop the Lotus to survive.
I thought he might die there, but he says no.
He'll be alright, big healing Lotus keeps him safe.
And Watson was looking for that second jump.
They'll regroup with Largo coming in from the south
as Liquid, the defensive line here, trying to hold
and look for a play, but yeah, Golems are back off cooldown already.
Yeah, and Golems multiple and he's going for even more. Refresher is in the quick-fire.
I love it. I mean, this is what Gareth has been wanting to see every Golems game.
Why is he going for the Black Grimoire? Why not the Fists? Get the punches out of the Golems.
Oh yeah.
Go for the full turbo build.
You're gonna make me sneeze, I'm allergic to terrible, but uh...
Well, it's my panacea.
It keeps me alive.
So we now have both radiant supports out-farming the center, by the way.
He is officially a support.
A support?
A support.
Yes, he is a support.
Hello, I'm a support.
Nice little sad.
9600 net worth.
They'll try and make a move out of their base though Liquid.
They still have their strengths through the tiny toss back, the Marcy's damage.
That Tinker sustained in the teamfights, they may be.
Could drag this out with a couple of snipes.
Yeah, I think DM chose the right item as well, going A on this kill,
recognizing if Largo doesn't get bursted by Marcy,
I don't see how they're going to lose a fight, but Liquid, they're trying to set it up with this smoke.
Nisha, a little out in the open there.
There could start with a bait on Nisha is beat me Lincoln's and they do have blinks and tour now
So it's not just down to the time
It's like a rich support
Well, not the richest support in the game, but
When you're off-laner has 40p scrolls, you know, it's been a sad time. Yeah, why did you buy all these?
Yeah, I got killed a few times
And next slowing things down a little bit not going for the raw aggression
Watson needs to push out the bottom wave and they're holding the enemy
ancients here so they can push into mid play through that super creep lane and
then get ready for tier 2 push down bottom. Yeah that might take the tier 2
before Aegis is up at least. Tier 2 is still pretty straightforward to push.
They just don't want to dive into enemy base without Aegis. At the same time
liquid they don't have too many moves. They're gonna go together look for a
fight. And DM, DKB is very tanky and difficult to kill.
Foxy gets the jump forward but doesn't find a target, locked in the server force now, and DM gets his BKB off, so with a goal and dropped, Mickey is already at half.
Running back and trying to escape as the chase comes forward from Chirra Jr.
They see the backline, Hoodwings in trouble, and so is the Marcy! Shackled up for a long range through Sucks, as Dive and the Ember Spiritus keeps going in!
Malady's the one to pick up a double kill, while Liquid only have Nisha left alive.
Oh, he's all alone.
Behind tier 4's moves to top lane, but he is all alone!
Exposed in the cold and slain as Liquid lose 5.
And while the heroes dive the towers, the golems are pushing the buildings, the push is coming in.
What a good placement by DM.
He knew they were gonna go out.
He stood there intentionally breaking their move,
going in behind them, gets the B to be out, spams his songs,
A-way damage for everyone, so these blink daggers didn't work.
You couldn't blink with your Centaur and your Tiny.
Liquid tried to turn the heat up, but the Frogs jumped out of the cauldron.
And he knew what was happening to him.
Had a nice landing stage, got to his Agnum Scepter, and then scouched him out.
He's absolutely enormous at this stage as well.
Defending the last lane of Rax, 6,000 damage through that fight as well.
They do have buyback, and a lot of things aren't cool down now.
But Emma's spirit's so good at scouting them.
They scan, starts with a toss back on Watson.
He kiddies up, and he's just come in, but he can't deal with his Beastmaster.
While Tiny's dying by their Pharex, the Tinker's being roared and cored.
Watson resetting though, a soft move back, upheaval's gonna slow with a faithful bond.
Nikkei and Asa dying, the rebath back in, Nikkei wants to try and find the Liquid.
They'll lose out here. Everybody's gonna die as Team Yandex.
Take game one.
We got asked in our little frog talk we had earlier.
The frog talk?
Is there gonna be a Largo in the rest of the playoffs?
And I said no, there shouldn't be.
And this game is again a testament to why I say no.
There shouldn't be. Yeah, I mean I think my answer was yeah
we'll probably see it and game one of the best of five and we did as we head back to the panel
That's gonna hunt liquid
Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going
Just stop
You can't explain that song
You don't have none yet, you don't have none
I don't think he ever runs out of mana once he has all the guys alive
He also played with aggs to do that
I can't do two at the same time guys
That's beyond me but that was the story of the game
And it's that simple. We knew there was going to be a peek time at Freyandex.
So did Liquid. We're like, Liquid's going to be ready. Gunner, they went off.
Yeah, I think they were kind of hoping to stomp the lane with the Marci.
I don't... I question the Tinker pick, to be honest.
I think that when you play versus the Larger, you want to be able to have like early game, like a bid that rotates.
I think that's when it's been most successful.
The Marci lane, the crushes, takes the tower, and a mid they can rotate.
But I think the tinker, sure you can say oh the wargo is slow like it gives space to the tinker, but it's not the type of
I don't know. I think wargo just wins when both teams are slow.
I don't argue though for liquid that. I think they thought the same thing would go better, right?
There was some really cool thing Jannex did to punish Mickey on the Marcy. We'll get to that later.
Not only that, Mickey did die in the leading phase.
If Marcy's not dying and is getting killed on Lago, then I'm expecting to watch her to be called mid.
Tiny will also walk mid and then tinker not getting pressured will have tire blink agnims
And that'll be so much damage
I think you overwhelm the lago and you get to this timing but also lanes just went so poorly for that
Ember killed the tinker that's all. Mm-hmm. It's like what shake one and one just killed him
Which I think is pretty disastrous for 24. Yeah, you don't want that out of last pick yet to me
It feels like a mixing of two ideas where the Marcy against the Largo is like this early timing thing
where you're invading the jungle and I agree with T, like if the game was simply better from the
landing stage onward, like maybe tinker is fine for this, because you don't need the tinker or the
tinker has timings or the supports are free to do it and then you have tinker who is kind of like
the idea is hey you want to farm for 15 minutes, well guess what we're gonna pick the most obnoxious
hero in the game for farming for 15 minutes and then just like out timing you, just be stronger
than you at that 15-minute mark but like neither of those two things really happened to it. Makes
me question should they put it entirely to one idea. Yeah, Largo with Warlock just in general,
we've seen that be so strong and there wasn't even very many ways to get rid of the fatal bomb
with an either. I don't know. The plan did not work. This was beautiful front-lining from DM by the
way. Akeet understood the assignment in this game, picking up the E on disc, walking around
with like 4000 HP, BKB understanding that he's gonna, they have to burst him if they want to fight to work.
So if he presents himself, they're gonna go on him, but he was quick at, you know, pressing, pressing his buttons and build, let him actually survive the initiations.
We did speak about fatigue, right, coming into this. The fact that we did see the second longest series in best three in Dota history, it really showed, I think, in this first game at least, right?
like Ace on the off lane, we didn't mention him once, I didn't think I really saw him much in the game.
Nisha dying in the mid lane, also finishing with 0-6-4 stat line.
He had some of the items to maybe step up, Mikke dying in the lane as well.
This is a game for Liquid where you have one game where you can use fatigue as an excuse,
then you have to wake up for game two.
Yeah, it's a good thing Liquid has an energy drink sponsor because they're going to definitely eat some after that game.
But, yeah, the guy who does not need an energy turnkey was revitalized in that game already, Gunnar.
Yeah, I think if you're gonna say they retired, there's the wake-up game.
It's a good game to give up Largo.
Yeah.
Because this guy's Largo just destroyed the game.
We said, oh, Largo's a weak laner.
But their lane was kind of good for a Largo lane.
He gets his fast ags.
He goes to all the team fights.
Also, being Warlock Largo is kind of a combo I think is even more legal than just having the Largo because the fatal bombs is too good.
So definitely not going to get through definitely not going to get through another game of this best of hard
If it is it would be yandex saying that they can that's a statement there from me and yeah, it's like well
You do that game to and you beat the Largo game threes. Oh, I don't even need to see that play
That's a G G right there. I want to see it there now now look the force in my head
But that's a that's a bullet way to go. I bet that yeah giga chat now
Now we all know that Yandex had a lot of time to prepare for this one because they did not
need to play the lower bracket finals, and in their preparation they noticed something
that they could definitely abuse or use Dickens, it's more preparation either way.
If you want to learn really cool stuff that you can do in Dota right now just watch a
Yandex replay, you'll see stuff like this where they smoke entirely around the top
edge of the map to wrap around from liquid side to catch Mickey. What a crazy way to start
the game where you know that the Marcy is picked to counter the Largo. So you say, okay,
let's give the Marcy a bad game to start the game. T, you brought up the idea that
maybe they looked at liquids replays and thought that that's where Mickey likes to stand.
So we have to do this weird smoke to get him. I mean, smokes in general have kind
have been normalized as you smoke all your heroes you walk to the room if it
breaks they're there if not you take the free room it kind of you you don't want
to fight anymore not it unless it's made as a tree but I like the fact that
pre-bounies but you always can do something yandex they kill Marcy now
teams like God we can fight again with a smoke be ready for it maybe even the
next game Mickey's not gonna be standing there probably it all surely to
not too tired to make sure they bring all their heroes that surely there's
no longer. Surely early guys. They'll call me Shirley. Okay. Okay. So the answer to the draft
of Yannick's overall last pick was the Tinker coming out from Team Liquid. So Tinker, if
you want to take a little bit of a closer look at what Nisha was up to at 26 and a half
minute. Not much, right? He had a 0-4 through score line, but I just wanted to showcase
the itemization from Nisha because he did think about the agonies in the BKB, items
that he bought in the previous tinker game as like fifth six seven items into his build so I think these really identify
Like what he could do to get back into the game, but yeah, unfortunately
It was a little bit too late
But I just like seeing players on heroes showing different item builds showing kind of they're reading the game rather than copy-pasting
But I disagree. I think you should have played for the 80 minute mark actually
It's actually really worked out in the previous years.
You should run for the Midas because of the innate ability.
This is the one-on-one item.
You should run for the Midas to the greening up.
You could even run out with the Talonik with this.
Yeah, I think I should have told them to go Midas-Octurine.
I can go... I'll go bring it up.
We'll get some time for you because, of course, the team right now,
they can't be doing anything, right? They're not playing right now,
so there's definitely some time to tell them what to do.
We're going to go to Quick Break, but we're back.
It's time for game number two.
10 seconds, yeah?
I have Lion Tinker, focus here.
I can keep off Linkin.
Guys, he farm fast.
That's focus.
I still have Wikipedia.
I can hex for Sky that jumps in.
Can we have Vox, maybe?
On this guy?
After tower, after 1v2.
He just plays it anyway, doesn't matter.
Still not.
I can.
I will kill him, I will count me.
I have Wikipedia.
Is it fucked up?
Still seen, still seen.
I'm Tinker, guys, I'm already Tinker.
Tinker, Tinker.
The human body was built to move over, not trapped at a desk in one singular posture for 12 hours a day.
It's time your chair evolved. This is Secret Lab Titan Evo.
I am here with Soxa. Hello, good to see you again.
First time to get my name right. Yeah, I've been practicing all day.
And for a very special occasion, we're going to rank all of the players here that play your role,
but not all of them, only the top five, five being the worst, one being the best.
You are allowed to vote for yourself. Will you be? No, I'm trash now.
yourself will you be? No, I'm trash now. Wow okay that's what I like to hear maybe
we disagree all right so who would be at number five in this tournament and why?
I think let's put FY, Xtreme has been doing a lot better I think at the
star season he wasn't doing so good feels like kind of like rusty but you can
see the progress and I think he's improved a lot so. Is that a boomer take
just because you're a boomer as well in Dota? You gotta vote for the old guys?
Yeah we gotta support each other. All right fair enough fair enough all right
Alright, how about number four?
Number four, let's go with Miro.
I mean, they had like insane win streak on Aurora,
and I think he's been playing really good lately, so.
Another Boomer pick, but I'll take it, yeah?
What do you mean?
Once you win TI, you're an old man once you finally do it.
Alright, how about number three?
Number three, let's go with Nyclas.
Okay.
Yeah.
BarriVision, they're back, and Nyclas in prime, so.
Yeah.
Is it annoying to play against line class?
No, it's kind of entertaining for me.
Oh, OK, OK.
All right.
Now for the serious stuff.
Number two.
All right.
Second best.
Who?
Let's go with RU.
Wow.
Yeah.
Team Spirit.
I think this guy is like insanely underrated.
And I think they haven't been doing so well in the Grand Finals.
But I think this guy has like a lot of potential.
So, I mean, they've already won some good tournaments.
Yeah.
But yeah, I think it's been playing good.
A lot of praise.
All right.
That's very very interesting. I believe that you are right very underrated player. Okay, and of course bigot number one
You're gonna pick yourself. I know you're gonna pick yourself, but who is it?
Boxing okay, boxy boxy. Wow. You're putting them on the list. Do we even need to explain this one?
I don't know. He carries like a lot of liquids map movements. He just
He does so much for a team and he's like a really good player
So, yeah, it's like, well...
All right, as always, the support is the most humble man
on the team, especially the sicko four.
So there you go. Incredible job.
I have to agree. Your rankings look very good.
Thank you.
Put yourself on it next time.
Nah, I'm good. Okay. All right.
You're good.
And how very fitting and that's actually has to go up against boxy in this best of five the two best position fours
Head-to-head one game up for yandex and they did it on the back of the Largo also some clean play and definitely
Preparation coming in clutch as well at the start and setting just a good tempo and the question is can they repeat that result without the Largo because
surely
Surely
This surely lady and why does she have such impact on the draft?
It's like the ice frog of drafting. Oh
She created a whisper and blitzes you leave the law leave the largo
All right, we're gonna just assume that Largo is out
We talked a lot about the the teams obviously beforehand already
And I want to know like if Largo is out of the equation
Where did we think the teams were gonna go before the Largo madness was in to the equation?
Well, that's where I think Yandex did flood the pool with so many heroes that you kind of feel like oh
I'm gonna get my hands on something great
I think Yandex had really good prep coming at this one unless about heroes if by chance
I would have praised your junior one more time right on the ember CJ here as he's been promoted to
Or demoted depending if he likes the full name or not
CJ though anyway. The way he played Ember was really just forward thinking.
But he didn't allow Liquid to breathe, he was running in, he was testing jungle.
So as much as we praise Alago or you know Watson on his Beastmaster for the
billionth time, I think Jiro Jr. CJ just had such a good read on how to play
his Ember that everything else just felt like it was the clean game.
I think for me the big thing is honestly I think
Liquid draft was a lot weaker than their drafts earlier today.
I think like sure we can be like, oh the Largo, the Largo,
but even their own individual drafts, if you look at it,
I didn't like the Hedwig pairing with the Marci,
because I don't think it's as strong
in a five to do the Marci's job.
And I don't think the Tinkers are strong
in a mid to pair with the Marci.
Like I think their draft, like I think we're gonna say
it was like fragmented and what it wanted to do.
Sure, it's like the Offlane two is like fine,
but I think kind of the other three
all felt very different play styles. And I think of their games earlier today,
sure, they went very long, but if there was more synergy, like they,
they had the same game plan, they did the same things.
And all their games earlier today as well,
they were actually winning the early game. I think all three games is the first
20 minutes. Oh, liquid's going to win.
And then maybe there's a little bit of throwing my liquid,
but they always had this first solid first 20 minutes.
And I think in this first game,
it was Yandex taking away their first 20 minutes.
And I think for liquid,
They should try to just like take a step back and go back to having the faster early game
I think they got like the second pick in this situation. They go long good
They got Largo, but they also got second picked where like you're trying to create this flexible draft that it's hard to get a read on it
Because you know the 18 pick is gonna come out and it's gonna be like really really good and the you know the penultimate pick
but then sometimes you're
thinking of like flex is too much that you create something that is truly fragmented. It doesn't just look fragmented.
So it can happen. I don't doubt that they can adjust again.
I mean especially because now they're first pick so this is almost guaranteed not going to happen.
Unfortunately Yannix did ban the frog.
Yeah, and I do apologize for saying the frogs name one last time, but with Lago it maybe even exposes Tofu's here
I pull a little bit because of the dispel right wall or dispel that makes your lane side to Kira
make sure lane is sad. Dazzle will make sure lane is sad. The trees already banned out early
in the draft because it's so big. A lot of his statement, I win lane heroes. Don't really
want to play into the hero. So at least this time around, because Yandex does respect Likwiz's
first pick, it means Tophu can widen the hero pool once more and find some of his lane
dominators. It does mean other heroes make it through because both of these master
in the Largo are banned that we saw in game one. Yeah, Shadowfiend might be available
in the pool we'll see I think no I think we're gonna leave shouting and they're
gonna take wind yeah I mean they've done it and trees bend yeah that's been a lot
of like the anti-winner here sir and you're totally they're gonna bend the
Mars here tree and they might even leave both Mars and what if win in the pool
and then they just been like tiny probably is the other safe band yeah I
was gonna say because if if they're trying to do that then what if liquid
takes wind, but then they can get Mars to counter wind.
They banned Underlord and Puck, so Puck is still actually in the pool this time round.
Okay, yeah, lots of really good stuff in the pool. I'm very curious to see where both teams take the traps.
I do think the wind idea is quite an interesting one to go down.
Okay
So now I think yeah shadow fiend to one side and then the undex
They can just take the win range and the shadow fiend because it's a good matchup right on the Marcy
All the others the Mars the Marcy the win ranger
There's plenty of options that we've seen teams be comfortable with into the shadow fiend
I think you take the wind here and then you kind of force the next two bands for liquid
They have to think about do they want to ban their own Mars their own tiny or do they want to give one of the
2d yandex I
I guess with all of the cores in the pool and Tany being sure it's flexed, but like the only support in the pool of those of the Mars, Wind and Marcy, it's good to take the support flex out of those, and then they still have to ban all the cores on the side of Liquid.
And as well for Liquid, they don't want the Marcy or the Wind, they would only want the Mars out of those, and you know, Yannick's can just take that out of the face.
You know, it's also have one band. So as much as we're getting more excited about these prospects, right?
You have to you do have to think about the kind of the the issues second pick means to face. Oh
That's cool. The Darkseer band we saw that very early on in the tournament as a pretty good offline answer
To shadow fiend you just get an illusion of them that's giving you the minus armor
So stabilizing that and then Darkseer tiny is of course a very strong line
I really
Mars needs to get banned
If Mars gets banned and doesn't yen it just take winged out of phase and there's
There's like little to counter
Yeah, but if you don't bet in the Mars, don't they just take Mars in the face. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's a tricky position
to be in
and I even then think if they
They'd bend the
Mars and they take wind or something like that. There's still like a brewmaster for Dean later into the draft
Someone like the 1617 they could just pick blue plus one
When when renewals it felt like the freebie for for yandex it had to go
And now the other one
I mean there's a few other options against SF and I mean we're gonna be talking about SF a lot in this draft because
You can't let one of these big four through without having some sort of counter to it
Medusa is an option that we've seen.
You can't pick it on 1617, so there's an anti-mage.
Yeah, you can't pick it on 1617, you have to pick it on 18.
Unless you see the carry, and it's an obvious carry which cannot be flexed,
then I think we saw Aurora do that.
But then you got bad anti-mage right now.
Yeah, they could ban anti-mage now, and then Liquid is like,
well, okay, we don't want to pick anti-mage,
we don't want to pick Medusa just to block them from picking it.
them from picking it like that is that is possible banning anti-mage now doing a
completely regular draft but then on 16 17 you take you take the medusa there's
also Ursa as a as an answer that we've seen to shadow fiend kez is probably the
more Ursa like hero that Watson would play to beat shadow fiend you just lock
on him and do hyper damage I mean yeah next season shadow fiend just make sure
you have multiple layers of heroes that go in and out of the fight, give you the vision,
have some stun. If it is the Yashakaya build from safe lane, you're always trying to play
your limits, like how can I get into the fight, what's my requiem set up? Yandex, just need
to respect that. Very stable entry to the draft and those surprises of course.
Oracle, for Liquid. It's a really good version, both the technical support right now
for Yandex, assuming. Even a core tiny, I think Oracle is pretty good for us.
Would you pick both supports here or would you pick a support in the core?
I think it's fine to pick both supports.
I think you can both support because then you can maybe get Nisha a really good pick on 18.
That's using like the Oracle rune scouting abilities. If they go Oracle.
I think the only reason to pick the core, it would probably off lane here and then it would
be some hero you're scared of, Yandex picking, like the Bru or the Mars, like you want to
take it first, or if you think one of the two is like better in the matchup, like if you
think Mars is just significantly better than Bru when they're playing against each other,
you take the Mars here, but I don't feel like either of them are particularly important
for Liquid, so I think just the support duo.
Yeah, I mean there's still like Marcy Tusk to play with SF in lane with SF, I think
like Shadow Shulman is another potential good hero to play with SF and set up for the Requiem.
It's a bit sus against Tiny Jikiro because they have easy ways of interrupting your grip,
but it hasn't really stopped teams too much in this tournament from picking it.
Five seconds remain.
This could technically be like a tofu toss, it's unlikely because it's boxy, but it
could be like a five position yeah and then they pick a ringmaster that could
potentially go into the off lane. Yeah I think that it's just flux right like the
supports will play like the players are gonna play their heroes but they can just
have them either. It's just such a scary combination right like ring and tusk any
initiation you have snow will save and escape packs and they also the fact
that you have two saving supports but also the most aggressive supports
enough of that can get killed like these here's in tandem you need to
respect where they go. I think you take your offline here for Yandex as you see the lanyard
lanyverse. To me the most likely is brumaster but I think it's scary. You could die in lane
for sure. Yeah but so many ofteners could die in the lane. Yeah that's true like socks
is going to be lane cutting on probably tiny anyway so I guess you don't really care.
It's like which hero do you want in the game for DM. So what do you need to get
out of your off-laner as they pick up the Ursa first so that's their answer to Shadowfiend.
It's been the hero that we spoke about a lot in the in the low-market finals. Is Ursa banned? Will
Ace be able to play one of his off-lane heroes because Ursa kind of counters a lot of his
hero pool this time around? It's not there right? They were protecting the Shadowfiend with
the Darkset and Windranger ban so Mick is going to be happier but Ace is going to be a lot
sadder knowing he's leaning into an Ursa-flustered hero. What does Ace even play? They can
with an Ursa and Lane.
An old school would be you pick an Enigma and you do that but he has not touched that
hero at all.
That's good.
That's a great suggestion.
Okay, so Tani's pretty much confirmed mid now for Yandex.
Interesting.
Would you like Saxa on the Jekiro or on the Phoenix?
Like which lane do you want to put with the Ursa?
Jekiro still or a hero with the Phoenix and the nice thing about the subdue is these are the two best supports versus toss lanes
Okay
So basically Tusk is no good silent to go to I think the third would be winter waifern
It's basically like anti-attack team heroes
You like have some sort of attack sheets though or physical damage reduction so that the tusk can't like snowball the lanes
But you're just more kill threat. So I'll just lay down at the earth. So and Phoenix is
happier to dodge kill combos like Tusk SF. Yeah, because you can... There's not really
stuns. Yeah, you can jump over it. Yeah, it's like hard to get him in the Icarus dive.
But do you need to be mindful that DM is one of the few off-lane players that
still plays off-lane Phoenix? That's true. So as much as we're locking in the
support duo, Phoenix plus Tiny is an off-lane combo. Could just slaughter the
Shadowfiend two or three times in the lane. You don't get to play the game
anymore. It's a lot of attack speed slow. If you're here, it's in your five. You get to
youth life 24 really nicely. You should just play Ember here. I wouldn't be surprised if
he goes for a ULZ either. Gunna has played his Ember card in another draft. Any time
there's a tank, I think I just pick Ember instantly. That's just such a good one to
one matchup. This is one of the few games that Puck didn't get banned out. They had
Ace on the bristleback yesterday and he did win the game. It was a chuckle for him.
Because the game that he won yesterday with it was like 80 minutes stupid game and they didn't leave one
They did they lost the early game so hard and he was not
That they didn't get a kill from 19 minutes
They were they were running out of ace heroes to pick and I think t is completely right with this fact that like
Ursa really destroys like half of his hero pool in the tournament like the tides the underlords of the world where he's looked really good
So like the last remaining thing
Other than Mars, which I feel like they're benching for now is Bristol back
So this makes sense to me and if ember is still in the pool, which yeah, probably it'll get banned if the reed is
Ace is running out of heroes
Nisha's like I can probably play Puck and play Ember. I can play Storm's fine, too. Invoker's okay
Yeah, yeah, I think that they definitely would value
Set up for Sunstrike. I think a lot of the teams that are successful in Invoker have like actual stuns
So they probably wouldn't want to pick Invoker this draft would definitely like Ember Puck storm one of those three
The way that I see liquid draft being complete is first was gonna frontline you might see him die a couple times
Maybe no, but then he will then give the information for
the mid heroes that you see on screen to thrive and after that Shadowfiend will kind of be the
killing blow. It's a clean looking lineup. It plays obviously more on items than levels due to
Shadowfiend and Bristleback, but I also like Queen of Pain for Liquid. Well every time I
pull the Queen of Pain card it never comes out. Well I would love to see Nishen play. I like
Queen of Pain versus Phoenix because she kind of builds attack speed. She wants to go
Shreds and all these like random sometimes attacks you items and you can kill the egg like the eyes in the other side of the fight
You blink in you kill the egg it gives the pushback is really good versus Ursa to help like cut your cores
I think the push of the ult is like so impactful surely with banning
Slaughter Viper and not having ember to get banned. Just take the bait, you know, just just take the dangle
Take the ember. Yeah, it's a house garden. They're obviously that's a face that he's made like
Yeah, yeah, but he can do the courier trick, you know the current trick right without Marcy
No, he's getting you don't need Marcy. It the Marcy just makes it easier, but I've seen him do it without Marcy as well
Don't you want to subvert expectations? I mean, oh, he's gonna get a Oscar, doesn't he?
It's gonna be the tiny four Phoenix off-lane and Oscar, right?
I really I really want to see Phoenix off-lane because shadow fiends aren't going for the types we build
They are doing Yashakaya. So you then you're forcing Shadowfiend to go back for the Mask of Madness build.
DM's talking. Why would he be talking if it's a mid-pick?
He's like, I can't play Phoenix Offline. It's going into their draft.
I've got it. Do it.
Five seconds remaining.
Oh no. Not surely again.
I believe in Nisha's ability to stabilize the Hosscar lane, but it is quite a good pick.
What? I was going to say Necrophos. Monkey. Oh, same idea. But normally it's Liquid that's the monkey team.
I look it in there, it is the Phoenix offside. Okay, I would say I actually have like the kind of like
three like main ember fighters which is like Necrow, Huskow, Monkey. I actually don't like Monkey.
I think that this matchup mid is like okay, it's on the higher end of the winning matchups,
But gameplay wise I think monkeys by far the worst of them
I think monkey mid is like pretty bad state right now, and he has to like
overperform significantly hard to
Kind of win this game the difference here is I feel like Yandex if you put Phoenix in the offlane
I am expecting them to be very aggressive like they need to get a couple kills
And if that happens the freedom to run to mid with a core and support will be there
So that you're not only gonna have multi bus ember, which again, we have seen ember actually do pretty well in that matchup
I'm expecting things to run at the mid tower as well. Maybe at 10 minutes with double supports. Yeah next day
They have to be killers in every single lane. Yeah DM is definitely a big X factor like the Phoenix versus SF lane
It's just a complete question mark. We haven't seen it. It has not been a thing on this patch
Monkey King. I agree. I've
It's not that great anymore because like they nerf the creep life steal which monkey really enjoy they
They've just nerfed the hero damage time
Bulksy rule TP mid as well at some point with like snowball into shard. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's a risky play
But I'm guessing it's the one that Chira wanted the most like he just made the call
I'm the most comfortable on this right now like get me the monkey. I practiced it and I
Respect that I respected and I'm sure it's a respected among many people
And of course the person who chose it or helped choose it is
Sexcel, who is the coach of Yandex, who's starting by the slacks right now.
Absolutely, Shibir. We are here with us now.
Thank God. Sorry, I still have to think of...
Thank God! You are a team that can end games quickly.
We have seen all these 70 minutes. It has been a slog.
You guys get the Largo. You push high ground.
You're big boys. Do you feel good about that?
I don't know why they give us Largo, so I don't feel that good.
I feel like it's not us getting gorg about them giving us to it.
Damn! Okay, fair enough. I mean, you feel like you just have to take it and they give it to you,
but a little bit different this time. We got the ban out from you guys.
Making sure you won't make the same mistake. DM Phoenix. Super excited. Let's talk about it offline Phoenix.
I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of the Phoenix. I'm not gonna lie, so I just let them cook and
let's see what it gives us. Okay, so that's you if you lose this match that it's all DM's fault.
So your fault at all especially based. All right fantastic. Let's talk about the monkey match a mid as a hero
We primarily see team liquid take out and just laughs are they're very serious grand finals day
We see a cut out as a carry monkey. You put it in the mid tell me about that one
Chira said he'll destroy nation so we'll see how it goes
I'm personally once again not the biggest fun as a monkey into ember because in-game ember is kind of nice
You have a vessel building and yeah, that's a good here. I think man and there's better here a thousand monkeys
So it's you need to say something good about the draft in case they absolutely stump just for your job security
I want you to say something that you really did good on this draft in case it's the best game
They've ever had but some or so that's it. Okay
Number two here and is best of five between team Yankees and team liquid as we do have the Watson
but a lot of cooking going on in the kitchen of Yandex, mid Monkey King,
but Shira Junior, the off-lane Phoenix for DM. Axel didn't seem particularly happy
about those picks but we'll see how it goes. Yeah, I've played playing our games with DM on his
Phoenix. He knows his way around this hero, I've seen it so I have faith in that but
I'm also a little bit convinced about what Gunnar said. We saw it before how
people tried to pick the Monkey King against Ember and it hasn't worked out
that well. Last time we saw this it was actually a win for the Ember. Ember is an insanely hard
shutdown and this is not really a gotcha pick. No, it's not like the housekeeper or the neckler.
It is still pretty strong. We'll see how he's able to spring into action because it feels like
the downside of the Monkey King is if the initial moves fail he can fall short pretty
quickly, whereas Ember can be pretty happy to catch up and make action happen whenever he
wants to. I think it's very important to keep eyes on mid lane in this game for the first
like five levels at least we gotta keep a close touch on how Nisha is doing because this is where
Monkey King needs to build an advantage and hold on to that advantage because later on with the
support moves and replace it more naturally with supports than Monkey King does. So far Monkey
about a wave ahead of the Ember Spirit. That's another wave coming in as well as he gets some
good damage in and the fourth strike of the Jingu. Yeah this is all topped up. That's
what he needs to do keep getting those Jingu procs, deal more damage, get more lasted damage.
and DM up at top. Dropping pretty low, turns to his level 2 here. A tiny Phoenixman. This
is a lane when they do get level 2 on Sanxi in particular, offer a lot of damage. Tusc,
this snowball save, the ability to disengage, not necessarily that good against the avalanche
now. It's pretty funny how the presence of the
Dark Lord removes 3 armor and he's laning against a 0 and a 2 armor hero, so the
right clicks are insanely strong for Micke, but the attacks be too low for those
Oh wow, one of them on the up, what's a nerve sap? There it is, the coach knew it.
Hungry Bear comes out to slay Tofu in his bottom lane.
As we did have that little swap up of putting Boxy Top on the Tusk, Tofu bottom with the Ringmaster, like the panel was saying.
They've got these signature heroes and they don't really care about what lane they play into.
Yeah, they managed to level 2 and play on a Power Spike before level 2 on the Ringmaster.
Tofu just overstepping a little bit.
That mid lane is starting to ramp up pretty quickly for the monkey now, 16-7 for Chiro Junior, 10-0 for the ember.
Are we going to see the courier manipulation on the creep wave? The dragging of creeps out of that mid lane?
Or is Nisha just content getting what he can with his boots?
I don't really see how, you know, Gunner said you can do it without, or TGov maybe he said that you can do it without the Marci.
I would like to see it. I haven't really seen that done without the support of Marci, of course, leveling up your couriers.
We're almost toss across, going to give Saks access to that Lotus Pool.
Okay, sitting around half health.
Got to be wary of the positioning of this Tiny.
So toss back into that Phoenix damage, definitely could undo you.
That's still chasing here, Chira coming in with some aggressive intents.
He's doing a fantastic job.
He's locking down this lane much harder than, you know, I expected him to be able to.
Nisha is a fantastic Ember player, but he is struggling.
Now it seems Chirijunni are very motivated, show off his prowess on this monkey king.
A very scary cosmetic to have as well.
Look, there's a beautiful flower, oh god what's in the middle of that?
It's all teeth!
It's a scary face, a gaping moor full of sharp pointy teeth.
Now, but this lane is getting very painful, Nisha.
It does have the boots, but it's HP dropping so low, up top, a little bit of fighting
back and forth, the Ice Fards missed though.
gonna trap Saksa. Shout out Matt Mercer for the gaping war.
Amber Spirit, yeah, very low waiting for his bottle to come in to top him up.
Keep his wits abound him though against this Monkey King.
It's been a while since he got a CS now though.
Yeah, go for this range creep at least as the Monkey King controls one of the waterings.
Not so much because Chira wants it. Just doesn't want to give away double bottle refill.
That's an eye. The last hit.
Amber Spirit, all he rolling in it now.
He's got a couple in a row, super happy.
Got some space, but no bottle refill available.
This is not a patch where you can TP and DM, gets trapped by the I-sharp, dives away.
He's got dying light as well, so you gotta be careful if you don't kill him and he drops
low, could turn and burn on you.
Sax is gonna come back up here as well.
Look at Mickey.
I'm not able to get on top of the SF just yet.
dangerous DM to play this lane though when you have two minus two armor you can't really
stand and trade hits with SF, so SF is getting a decent time of denying and last hitting.
Having a pretty free lane and shards here on the Saksa, forces the toss back, couple
of raises, one of the lands, the avalanche stops any further arriving.
One of the better ways to disjoint when toss goes on you, just throw avalanche and
create some distance.
What's at the bottom?
Playing from the trees, coming through the fog and the ice path on both of these liquid
heroes.
Gets to go on Tofu, but not the finish.
Watson didn't want to continue diving.
Nice healing tonic combined with the whip, but but they can get the kill.
So DM's low, a lot of damage over time.
Earn charge on Boxy, Sack's under tower taking some hits, but he should be fine
with a Lotus.
How does it play with?
This is what they need on this lane.
I said the SF was getting a lot of time farming, but the striking power of the
combination coming out. Tiny plus Phoenix, they have a lot of magic damage.
It does mean now Phoenix Tiny kind of out of health. You don't have to run back home
with a Tiny, regen up as the Phoenix. So Shadow Phoenix is going to have a 30 second period
here where he should be pretty happy. Last thing there is Tower.
He might be happy, but there's earn charges now on Phoenix as well, which amplifies
the kill potentially even further going forward.
And they'll dive in from Chirojunia, mid lane, not fun enough for him, two man balance
stride connects on both of Liquid, they've got the escape act out of tofu but the damage
comes through so quickly.
What a dream haste rune to come in with, just chasing people down and sure this gives
some space for member of mid lane, he gets his level 6 but already the impact from side
lanes or to side lanes is the monkey king.
3,000 hours up for him and item build wise on this monkey King
Kind of curious to see what he goes for because in the past we've seen him pick against the Medusa
So it's like oh, he's going to use a blade. What about this time? Is it back to echo saber do we?
Try and scale we're going for active early items. We'll see what he's gonna go for for now or be frost is in
I mean we I wouldn't mind seeing something like even the echo saber or diffu still you just need an early fighting item
Boxing, stealing the wisdom, at the same time they're losing their own wisdom, but it's taken by Monkey, so they did go without experience over on one of their supports.
And it seems like they know that everyone moved to the left side of the map to take the other wisdom shrine, leaving Ace alone here to get killed off by Watson.
At this bottom lane is just uninhabitable right now, Ursa is so strong and with the tower, sieged up by Siege Creek and Tequiro, it's gonna fall pretty fast.
Spooky times when you're allowing this Ursa to rush into that Bancal Fury quicker than he normally would.
Five kills to nothing so far out on this laning stage and three of them in the hands of Watson.
Ever since I was on DM though.
Oh hell, Phoenix, level five, so no supernova.
Chains come in with a snowball attack team, a ton of damage onto DM, but he dives away.
And Nisha, kind of worse for wear.
Sips back to the mid lane just to try and play it out as the Monkey King did come in.
come in monkey chasing but no teammate nearby so not gonna turn into a kill the
power rooms they'll be in control by radiance
Saksa gonna grab the bottom D to run just making sure ember doesn't get it I
think he popped the steering chains a little bit early there but he also
didn't have a point inside of this so it was hard for him to hold it because
if he holds it he can you know prevent the dive away okay to his
earn eventually though in Asia I might be turning point for liquid to play
aggressively oh wow this move by socks are just running in as well stealing away
farm
Chet Jr and him they just go blindly into a fog war nuking
with the avalanche DMs under vision a very sneaky observable there from liquid
watches the phoenix but it seems like he's got a good read
understanding liquid support stuck around after that wisdom shrine steal
not gonna get picked off yeah it's it's about creating a balance right
you lost your offline tower so you're trying to take the enemy offline tower
But they're going to defend it in time. A low HP tower doesn't really matter much as long as you don't lose it.
It doesn't matter if it's 300 HP as long as it's still there, it's a TP point for you, it's still defended.
We're going to dive onto MiG. Supernova is there with the ice path. The damage is burning through the shadow fiend as Malady captures up.
Snowball across to try and get Boxy away from danger, but the secondary dive from DM gets him on top of the ASF.
Yes, they trade out for Maladik with a dying Requiem, but now Tofu's left stranded on an island up here.
A little bit of a friendly grenade situation there, throwing in with a toss.
You see a tip going over, he's like, sorry Maladik, you were just the closest thing I had to throw.
Well, but we needed the damage.
It's one of those situations where you just go, dead is dead.
Yeah, Mickey's gonna at least feel somewhat okay that he got a kill, but getting shot down a bit in the early game on SF.
Right now the tempo picks up.
it gets hot in the kitchen up sharp as tofu is getting burnt down the urn and
fiery spirit after plenty of damage through the phoenix yeah dm phoenix man I
told you I've been seeing it a lot he's strong on this hero and 10 minute
rune arcane bottom so Nisha gonna get something to go his way arcane ember
with the urn now ready he doesn't have any charges but we'll get there
it is a very budget inventory though he does not have magic stick upgraded
in his inventory, he does not have all these little gadgets you want for the 10 minute fighting.
Ernest also the budget version, ideally he would be a spirit vessel by now.
He's been thrifting down to the charity shop.
Mardi with the catapult, trying to play through the monkey king.
Nice dodge.
Tofu and Nisha looking to hold them back.
G.R. Junior dodging the damage with the mischief.
Well done.
They're playing towards the catapults a lot on Yandex, trying to put pressure on the map on top, the catapults can't finish off the tier 1 tower, so that will be Sidelane towers gone.
For now, Liquid are holding on to mid, and I think that's important. If they lose mid, room control is going to be gone, and Ember desperately needs that.
Sucks it with the avalanche toss. Trapped in the shards and Boxy micking, pairing up to get the kill as an ice pamphlet like it might have been enough to save him up.
Boxy, all the damage taking over. Enough to take him down. He was trying to get the aggro from the golems to maybe get it in the night, but not going to get it in time.
And while all this noise has been happening, top left corner of the map, mid lane as well,
a lot of action there through Yandex, Watsons are also happily farming.
He got those early laning kills and now rushing towards the battle fury.
Yep, not going for anything surprising, battle fury to Blink is going to be the timing
for Ursa always and he's looking very on point, 11.30 he finishes the battle fury.
It's going to fly out now.
Very fast timing.
Yeah, that's I mean it's superb anything before like 1230 is very very very respectable
And then marketing the fuselablade it's going to be coming up shortly as well. He's about 400 gold off of that
Well ace on his bristle back braces soul ring
Looking to get back into the jungle and scale with a santa nyasha queued up
It looks like liquid maybe want to drag this a little bit later
Get tanky
Lay things out invisible monkey stalking walking around. I find anything you can kill just yet, but
He's ever on the hunt. So if you so what's this builds? I agree with it
You need a little bit of matter burn attack speed. It's always nice even just hitting into bristleback where ember burning their mana feels amazing
He's gonna see boxy here dive in from dm offering the damage boxy being burnt to a crisp
Fox?
You could be able to save him.
Looks like you got the save on him, but not quite.
DM sniped him up from far.
A spirit vessel.
He's giving a lot here.
Two charges still up on him for DM as well,
so he can continue to play through this top lane.
And Diav...
Put a lot of emphasis trying to ward out this top left corner.
Diavision trying to play through that top tier one.
That top jungle.
Protecting Micae and the Shatterfiend in his farming area.
But this is not been the tempo you normally see from Shadowfiend. Shadowfiend is one of the absolute strongest heroes of the patch
And normally you want to have strong presence on your safe lane and then turn that into some gate moves, go down and start
Pressuring the enemy safe lane tower. This safe lane tower of Yandex has only taken one auto attack from a melee creep or something
It's completely a full HP.
A smoke and a new bottom.
It's the wisdom play 30 seconds still they might hunt with the smoke or the scan going red
I know someone was high ground and sure junior. He's there atop the canopy of trees looking for a target and it's ace
Already 60% HP. It's a quick burst to jump and kill
Shatter fiend completes the TP though. Okay ice-pack and a supernova liquid trying to retreat now as yandex
thinking about the dive in
Sheerar gonna back out. I think they're just gonna back and play for the
Wisdoms. Very confident to TP in there. BOLD! Yeah, BOLD to say the least. At least
Phoenix had to use his ulti. And Ember is running, stealing some enemy stacks, but
also heading towards that Wisdom. Not making it near he wouldn't die. Calculate to the...
Oh, Misha. Trying to steal out this medium camp. Obviously with the
safety random he's all right it's still fairly free for me to run in to make
these moves as they don't have the best catch Phoenix Jikiro these heroes don't
catch an ember that easily that's basically if you know where the month
years you're probably gonna be fine it's like boundless like strike from
trees is what's gonna catch you nice little dodge there by ringmaster
it's self-safety long-legged illusion gonna run a chair junior scout
things out and see who's behind him. So Nisha again running into enemy territory
I think this is going to be key to success is trying to create some space
just be careful about the mana burn and shane stun.
I might get a creep stun as well eh? The neutral's not helping out but he's still got the slight revenue to get away.
Oh but on mid lane they waited for us. Oh Watson was there!
Man Watson they coordinated that really well he barely jumped out had 20
man are remaining but even with that Watson just gonna add him to to his
farming list you know this this Ursa didn't even go out of his farming pattern
really I thought Nisha was fine I guess he did as well Watson has comes in very
nicely done and that is a completed blink battlefield at 15 gold standard for
any Ursa player the stupid croakers though standing up Nisha with the
tendrils always have to be so careful running next to them I don't
Trust him man, they'll always screw you over.
Nasty business.
Can you see the Maladik tier one?
Maladik, they're doing the same thing as in the previous game.
We saw this drums on Warlock,
now we see drums on Jokiro.
I'm a big fan of drums on supports, Gareth.
I think they're amazing.
Ah, it's just a nice all-around item.
Especially when you're ahead,
being able to play fast and get faster.
Yeah, I mean, it's just fantastic
for the first 25 minutes of the game.
Later on, you could argue that,
okay, having a four staff
might sometimes be nicer, but right now, right here right now is when you want to be as strong as possible.
DM is being run out, though.
Already half HP, Theod up, Chain Stunned, good catch by Liquid.
Remove the streak from the Phoenix and now pivoting to try and push into this top lane,
but there are heroes ready and waiting.
Atlas toss back in towards us at the Kiro, but the slight of the jump out dodges danger.
Nisha's out of there while Boxy put in the box, escape act.
Not gonna get him out of there, while Vector is being eyed up, but the Monkey King's in the back.
Tofu with Ace turning back on the Chura Junior, needs the Wukong's command, but the Monkey King's dead!
Ooh, couldn't have stayed alive long enough.
Did he miss Chiff? Maybe he could have gone into Chains of Guard?
Think he would have died anyway.
While that happened, the Shadowfiend did fall to Watson though.
Sax are on the run, not gonna get trapped in the shaft this time.
Team Yandex trying to bite something off on this top lane, they get punished somewhat.
Yeah, and again, Ursa is ready to go.
Another jump with Saksa. The chain stuns come in onto the ember.
Nisha trying to do a short jump away, but the sun rays coming in.
Watson can't keep chasing. Now turn onto boxing and get the simpler kill.
This Earthrise just monstrous. Killing one after another.
And now, Roche type, surely. Get a teamfight victory in the top left corner.
Yeah, I think he'll definitely consider going for it.
He also could just farm back towards the ancients.
But yeah, I would have expected him to head straight into Roche, maybe
Respecting liquids ability to contest but not heroic
No, no heroic would definitely have been in Roche pit like three minutes ago
They are very very fast about taking up Roche
But you know makes a doing a fantastic job holding on to an early game lead here 16 to 4 out of 5 K Lee
They're looking for another kill that might allow them access into the pit
A shield rune at the bottom spot, a jump from Saksa, that's the initiation tool.
Gets onto Tofu, body block him off and finish him off with Watson getting the monster kill streak for himself.
This duo works so well, it doesn't matter if it's from support or from core positions,
it's almost nicer when it's a support Tiny to see Tiny and Ursa together.
It's just a long time of chain disable.
It's easy to think of Tiny as just the avalanche stun duration,
but the toss can really hold people in place for so long as well.
As well as of course throwing them right into the versa.
Now it's like, A is on the bristle, deciding to go a different direction.
And you port the felt of strength, thinking about that sound in Yasha,
but goes back into the lotus hall, so an item which will allow them to play a little better in this mid game as the fights develop.
Defenses snowball back towards the brokers.
Trying to get away, but not contesting this one.
I'm trying to see liquid timing for when they're going to turn this around,
and this is not a Kaya Yasha blink build coming out from the SF.
So he's going for more of the carry approach, which to me sounds...
Oh, they have a catch ulti ember.
Yeah, that's an avalanche toss up. Still not quite enough.
I needed that ice path from J'Kyro, but he was a little distant.
Or a bash.
Yeah, got the basher.
Barely didn't get him.
It's so dangerous. Any time you show yourself, you might just get jumped randomly by Ursa,
Or maybe there's multiple heroes so Nisha's game is not easy and he has to keep creating space until Mickey is strong enough to fight
But this mask man is her Kim pike builds. I
Guess it's like BKB butterflies got to be the big power spike to try and play on evasion against Ursa
Yeah, it's like he needs to be able to dodge Ursa hit the egg get out of wukong's
They're going for these tools to keep himself alive and fight back
It's in pretty important as Nisha goes back to wave dragging create as much space as you possibly can
And he's kept himself decently in the game, you know, against this monkey king in lane. It was kind of nasty
But not that far behind the monkey in terms of net worth. Yeah, but the hunt is on non-subtiny monkey king Ursa
All these heroes are just looking for anyone they can jump and pre BKB timings
We don't really see liquid reddish fights Ember's working on his
SF is working on his of course and then Bristleback has Lotus Lotus orb, but
Yeah, gonna need quite some time before they're in fighting shape
Yeah, Liquid trying to place a lot of these wards in the river or in the lanes watching for the approach, watching for whether Monkey King is jumping.
Misha up atop with Boxy, they get onto Malady here, DM Sunray tops up the Shakiro and keeps him alive though!
Nice little heal coming in. Sunray keeps him topped off.
It's told me time.
A lot of times we've seen this Ember jumping away and surviving but the bigger story is not just whether he lives,
How much time in this game has he spent running away just having to run away from fights look at his net worth
This is really hurting an ember spirit when all you do is escape non-stop. He needs kills this here thrives on chaos
He's doing well to get what he can that's just that's not a lot yeah
He has another way itself probably gonna be halted shortly though and yandex have three heroes in the area
And they have got this Shadowfiend into a position now.
Now this BKB timing, it would be what Liquid Bank on.
BKB is finished on Monkey, but they know about it on Team Liquid.
They saw him walking past the ward, so they also know that it is finished.
Because this is a dangerous timing, he could jump in on SF and just stay locked onto him.
Very hard to fight him against the, in the Wukong.
This bonus armor makes it harder for even an SF to fight back.
And what SF is still a couple of minutes away from his own
liquid need to buy time
The only currency they have to purchase that is like you've been saying this means you amber spirit
Yeah, he hasn't really been able to go together with the Tusk and ringmaster to create kills because those are more saving supports
Really good at what they do we understand why these two heroes are picked
But they don't have the tools to burst anything that easily with a three of them like they can kill support here
Maybe but they cannot kill the course yeah feels like that that classic conversation about disruptor right very good
When you're ahead and chasing not so good when you're behind
As ace starts to get pummeled by the monkey king double damage rune goes to work and drops him to about half
But he's got essence ring lotus orb and proves to be too difficult a target to kill even with the double damage rune
They do not get baited into full focusing on a personal back
Not that close to a tower
This next round of items though, Shiva's Guard, Phoenix coming in.
Last minute of the ages for this Ursa.
That BKB monkey you mentioned, Yandex getting ready to go for this next big team fight.
Forcing X out of this middle lane and making sure that Liquid have to keep retreating, playing on the back foot.
Means they're not farming, they're not getting to that BKB fast enough.
Yeah, and the pressure of POS back this time they might kill him.
They've caught the Crystal in the Wukongs.
Watson also kills the support in the back so there's no attempt to save even.
Tofu gets sliced along with A's.
That's so clean. The target acquisition of Watson just saying, you know what? I'm gonna take out the supports.
Yeah, you've got enough to kill him. I'll get someone else.
Even though he's Ursa, who's one of the best heroes to kill Bristle.
So a lot of people would be baited just saying, okay, I'm gonna hit the Ursa, but no.
He knows exactly how he's gonna play out.
You know, also cherry on top.
Make it a double. And also not just staying and hitting a tier 2 tower.
Ursa could be pushing that tower, but it takes a while to do it.
to do it. Better to just get on sidelines, shove the ember away, and make the map as small as possible for Liquid.
And to cure us slowly burning the tower down anyway, this support is really good at just taking a tower if you get secured.
Well, Watson's making the call that I'm up here, I'm at top, pushing this wave.
Don't stick around mid, because that's the way that Liquid could get back into this.
Now, it is a 10k lead, 21-4.
But we've seen how Liquid can drag themselves back into games, claw into awkward situations.
You don't want to give them an inch.
Yeah, liquids have proven to be the kings of the late game in a lot of the games that we've seen.
One of the longest series ever was the one they just played though, and that fatigue has to get to them, Gareth.
They are coming out of lower bracket finals.
Sandex had the advantage, of course, watching them play, seeing what they do,
and also not play three 70 plus minute games back to back.
No, man, the bloodshot eyes, the tiredness here.
I'm starting to feel like Liquid without Ace having a good game is just really rough for them.
The first game, Ace was completely shut down. This game, same story. His farm isn't atrocious, I guess.
But he's not having a game, he's 0-5-1 on Bristle, Bristle wants to dominate early.
I'm not giving him a chance this time.
Yeah, I mean, leaning into an Ursa, I think...
Counter's the majority of his hero pool, right?
Yeah, pretty much.
Are they even banned this Underlord two games in a row?
Yeah.
Making sure he didn't get his hands on it.
Yeah, they're respecting him.
I mean, it's like it's cost.
Into base.
At base.
Asia is dead.
All thanks to the high ground ward that Sansa just placed and Watson comes back in they want the D ward absolutely not
The bear makes this at home comes into the stuns. Topu has the back away now Watson
He's got BKB blinks on cooldown cleared up and right click by the SF
But he just shocked himself to low ground
He's gonna hop down to safety and that forced everybody to come and react as well on team liquid
They still lost two heroes almost three that a bash on Topu looked dangerous
And meanwhile, bottom lane was pushed out.
That's the thing, right?
Yandex are doing multiple things on the map.
Pushing lanes, farming, playing aggressively, getting kills.
A liquid left in a situation where they have to react.
I mean, Yandex are looking so clean.
They're playing insanely well.
They're not over committing, they're not getting caught out alone,
and everybody is moving with a purpose.
If it's split pushing the lane, like Phoenix up now,
making sure to push and lane preparing for the tier 2 push,
or if it's forcing the Ember jump.
Saksa, he sees that coming. Runs down mid, breaks the smoke and blinks away.
Yeah.
Scan doesn't connect.
And that was also a meditated move. He ran in knowing that,
okay, right, now it feels like they should be smoking out.
He breaks that smoke.
Saksa is just such an experienced player.
Massive brain.
Yeah.
But if it's any team that knows how to work on a comeback, you know,
Team Liquid, they've been here before, they've proven themselves before.
And we've not yet seen them play as five.
Right? Ace has been caught out a couple of times.
But here's still a tanky bristle back
So if you dangle the bristle in front of yandex and play through the ember and shadow fiend
The saves from tusk and ring master could come into play properly
The downside for them is that they don't have the big easy spells to come back with I normally look towards that when I see
A team on the back foot you want those big spells. There's no blink roar
Yeah, and there's also no blink as a faulty. He didn't go kai asha
So he has to farm all the way for a butterfly like I talked about 50 music or something
Their timing to turn the game will be the butterfly timing and he's closing in
It's still a while away, but once he gets there
Versa might not be ready for it and I'm assuming boxy never really wants to blink initiate right?
He wants to hold that blinks noble to save so it's Nisha
Nisha has to be the one that scouts start puts the game on his back basically and give info and
Initiation to team liquid. Yeah, the problem is taking a good fight right now
Now look at Yandex still staying close together for this Roche smoke breaking with chair junior
He's even pump faking a bit his jump away making sure he's already looking in the right direction on the tree
Roche and that's our almighty scream
Ace moves forward as the monkey King pops over the top of liquid and sees them coming
Roche and
Inside his pit still to die for from DM scouts out boxy toss across snowball by some time saves them up
There's Watson and Rages, but the Wukong's command zones them out, the Sunray comes out and burns them down, Liquid lose two, and the third one down in a row as Watson picks up another, now Nisha, BKB done.
Can he remit the safety? No he can't, he's just bashed and slain!
He tries to get the kill on the Phoenix at least, but he cannot move the Ursa, locks him in place.
That was really nicely handled by Alex, they sit back, let them move in, and then Phoenix dives in with the Shiva's active to hold everybody in place.
Bullcongs get dropped so nobody can move and at that point the fight was just kind of over the defensive snowball
Even was turned against them something you pointed out a bit when we were talking about the draft
Before we went live here on the cast of course was tusk pick into the cure of is not that comfortable
Since the snowball here if you watch the replay of this fight, you'll see that two heroes landed into an ice path
It's so hard for boxy against avalanche and ice path like he gets the snowball out
But then you're just stuck in the ice path macro player. Yeah, a lot of time to jacquero is picked against tusk for this very reason
So he's obviously doing a great job as well malik only died one time
I don't know
I'd like the midlaner
They even knew it themselves going too far forward at desperate times call for desperate measures though
They're so far behind they couldn't really afford to just give a free roche
The timing was a bit too far away for the butterfly to comfortably just finish that
They're gonna go top and look for a fight. I think liquid are realizing some form of miracle needs to happen
It's gonna feel under awards well already bad make as like guys I bought this BKB
We've got to go and use it
But you're right under vision liquid have been scouted monkey King already
evacuating Teeping to mid while the rest of the team play very tight with the Ursa.
They're backing out Yandex. Still have plenty of time on that Aegis with a
pistol in hand, null fire over on the Monkey King. They're looking strong right now
and even an Agonins on J'Kiro. That's just one more thing that you have to
worry about. This Makriper is gonna absolutely destroy you if you stand
in it. Especially if they just get the jump on you. All right now, Boxy
Defending his bristle buddy
Punching back the Ursa. No brawling in his top lane smoke behind don't want to catch them
Sucks a way to cheer a junior. That's a weird melee creed
Why does melee creep running smoked at us?
Nisha, we're gonna get scouted. They make the jump against the chains
Remnant away. They still get jumped in a mile eight ago. Mickey disappears and so does tofu
How quickly they fall
They're way too far behind the net worth and the damage is just insane coming out from so far range
Ice path and bonder strike essentially acting as a double Fisher from far away
I know another jump. I suck say he's gonna poke an issue here be a little bit annoying
He says by alone while bottom lane a spin dived upon zero junior and DM nullifying the bristler burning them down
The dying light of this supernova Sunray takes the bristle out of the game
No respect anymore into the base 32 to 4 they have not gone in a kill in forever
It feels like things have just been completely one-sided at that top lane fight starts with monkey King role-playing as a melee creep
Ends with a shadow team dying like a range creep
Very accurately put yeah the SF armor may be decent, but the damage coming out over on the side of yandex is insane at this point
It has been a long period here where Liquid have had no recourse, no answer.
I mean, 4 kills in total in a 32-minute game.
Losing your top lane of Barats now as Yandex come to claim what's rightfully theirs.
You know what they're doing right now? It's just relaxing time.
They had some long series, okay?
Mercy! Mercy! They're taking this as a time-outs, preparing for game number 3, Garrett.
That might be where we have to take this one.
Team Yandex, not stopping.
Stop it! The Glyph will only delay things 90 seconds on the ages still going
They didn't cut the next wave at least with the Tusk and he's looking to cut the next one again
Try as you might actor protection is online. Just kick in
But now I'm gonna come back and protect the wave. They've kept one creep alive
They're one flag bearer boy is here. Go on Billy Bob get into the enemy base. That's all you need break that back door protection
Tossback, there's the jump. Tossback in. H is bristled back.
Killed off quickly. Another lane of barracks here for Team Yandex.
Saksa has been on point this game as well. His moves, like the smoke break we saw earlier,
his tossbacks have been really well coordinated.
Yandex are just playing like one unit.
And I'm not sure if Liquid has what it takes to drag this game out for another 40 minutes.
I've seen them do it several games in a row through the lower bracket,
But now...
Yeah, this one is desperate.
They need a massive S of ulti somehow.
They still got 9 second BKB.
Watson necked the jump to the right hand side, but Saksa gets rooted, so Tide can't play forward.
Tusc and Ember getting in here, Nisha diving, killing off Saksa, but Bobsi slain and they've got the control onto Nisha, but he slight-chains and gots away.
With the remnants away, he's safe.
Two supports down on the NX side, Jem's gonna get reclaimed.
A slight of life there through Liquid, Nisha pulling out all the stops to get something.
Yeah, he committed a lot of remnants for that, so right now doesn't have the resources
for another fight, but I think that deterred Yandex's push, the ages timing out as well.
And unfortunate news are coming in, Gareth.
I've been hyping this butterfly, that's the one hope, you know, the timing to play
on.
The Earthside is an MKV.
The butterfly isn't even done yet, it's already countered.
You just say screw it, no butterfly, this is going to be a swift blink now?
You used to be a strategy, right?
You'd buy the talisman and say, I'm going butterfly, and everybody's MKBing, like, haha,
I'm just kidding!
You gotta send it just for DPS at this point.
He needs to right-click and get some damage out, that's been the main concern for Team
Liquid here.
They cannot match the damage output really.
No, it has been an onslaught from the Andex.
Liquid.
Hey, there's one more monkey.
See where Chiragunia is on top of the trees.
He got the shark. He stuns himself to safety.
Already killed the tormentor.
And I'm smoking out of this top lane.
Knowing everyone is outside on the map right now.
Yeah, I'm next to hunting.
And they have some good heroes to hunt with.
Monkey King is quite mobile. I'm going to slide after him.
Misha is also unavailable.
He's gone twin gate down to bottom.
He's got a remnant.
He's got a remnant in the top lane, which is under radiant vision
But it doesn't seem like Yandex give a damn the jump could come any moment mid. I'm just playing forward into dire base
And they're pinging out ember spirit down south so maybe a long walk back
I think then monkey King sets up on the remnant up top. I
Think that remnant's got time out very soon anyway. Okay, this long move bottom. Nisha should be
Sussing out that something is happening. He hasn't seen anyone in a long time
He puts another remnant down, further south from the Chain Stun from Watson, Basker, and the ice bath of Malady.
Make short work of Ember Spirit.
Unfortunately, it gets bursted immediately, the Chain Stun is real.
A blink to Kiro, traversing the map very quickly.
Boksy, Mikkei, they're being walked at by the Ursa. They make a jump, but Malady quicker with a blink dagger.
He jumps back and the tusk now exposed and they try to unload with Mickey's damage, but Watson seems invulnerable.
Supernova's sunray monkey from the high ground jumps in from the trees and they're off to Mickey now.
Bashing up the Shadowfiend, no flower as well.
Also they're dropping low and they get the kill, drink down!
Also gone, the trouble is, liquid out of heroes, five die!
That's one of those moments like, we got him at least guys, we can GG and you know, not complete shame at least, we killed there so...
That shows the Shediffin can dish the damage.
Got some 2600 gold for killing Ursa but 4 heroes are coming towards you high ground.
And you got no buyback on SF either. A minute without him.
Yes you got 2500 net worth swinging into the pockets of liquid.
Back accounts overflowing as the coffers are full of gold.
But your face is being pummeled.
Catapults are being literally trebucheted into your building by this tiny.
The moving fortress.
Going for more, BiBak is not going to be available for him.
400 gold needed and no way for him to get it.
Still potentially risky without your Hursa.
Cheer, Junior. Pretty damn tanky though.
Ios, Scotty, Nullfire, BKB.
Trying to keep the Catfalls alive.
Zoning Wukong's here as they deal with the Tier 4 Tower.
Nisha, stunned up, burnt down.
Killed with no BiBak.
Now it's what? Tusc and Bristol against the world.
Gathrone's exposed and Gigi's called.
Liquid tap out, named to 42-7!
What a performance by them, and yet another game where they only died once with the three core heroes.
Talked about it in previous games, but they're doing such a good job just dominating from start to finish.
Most teams will bleed some kills, they barely bleed at all, Gareth.
Let's head back to the panel!
Oh, there's so much to unpack with this game win, with the draft beating the Shadow Fiend,
the hero that was led through this time, which also on paper should be doing better
than what it did and now Yandex has this massive draft advantage as well going to the third game
but this game wasn't just about the shadow fiend we saw a monkey king mid we saw phoenix core
teigo yandex reinventing everything no they were looking good right with the phoenix offlane on dm
he had to buy his time wait for level four then he connected getting the kills and because of the
sideline pressure through watson's ursa finishing the game 18 1 and 10 dm's phoenix finishing
8, 1, 23, they broke liquidity to help the mid lane, and then Monkey was like,
I don't want to be one, I will beat you.
So yeah, three lanes, one of a Yandex, easy game.
Beautiful Monkey King performance from our boy, CJ.
If there, you know, there's a lot of pressure on you for that last pick.
You're playing against the guy who everyone is talking about as like the
most skilled mid laner currently in the world.
And you have your pick of Huskar, Necrophos, Monkey King,
these heroes that will traditionally like destroy Ember as
hero and he goes to the hard one to pull off but he does it and there's an interesting idea here of
two like effectively melee carries against shadow fiend two heroes that can get basher and
bkb and just hard commit to him in the fights because even in a fight where Watson died on Ursa
still monkey king is there and able to finish him off it's just not something you see right
now like maybe this is part of why sf is working solo as a carry is because the mids are just
normal mids nothing that really counter shadow yeah I was concerned with the monkey in the draft
I kind of said I was like oh monkey's very weak he's been nerfed a lot but I think that
they look whatever we found their opening and cheered jr kind of made every single opening
for himself like he won the mid lane he also rotated bot with a six minute haste turn and he
like opened up bot up tower he went top he was just constantly roaming and he never had that
issue of oh no I'm getting 2v1 mid and I'm dying to an ember change it was always like him
starting the moves, him forcing everything and him not making any mistakes.
Yeah, I mean, luckily for the coach, Watson did pop off, right?
Because the coach of the Andex didn't like the Phoenix, the 8123 Phoenix.
He didn't like the Monkey King, the 6120 Monkey King, but he did say the
Watson or at least was, you know, the silver lining, the thing that he liked
in the draft, but we're just saying that he's called XL because he has
an extra large brain to governor.
Is that what that's about?
I think he has just an extra large trust in his team.
Play the heroes that they call for because he wasn't calling for it the players will like give me this hero
Let me show you what I can do. So it's just excellent. And there's an extra large mid advantage in this game
Yeah, which we're Junior and Nisha
And yeah, I again I'll say I was wrong. He kind of popped off on the monkey King
I didn't believe it in the game
I was like huska neck row these kind of heroes
But he was comfortable with the monkey King and he kind of showed it to us. Yeah, the other MVP has to go to the M
I think
I think we have some ones that are going to say, I'm coming in as a stand-in and just, you know, like, sure, sure, I can play this for you.
No worries. You want the Phoenix on the off-lane? No worries. Got it.
My only critique of him after such a great game is his inability to point at his team's logo.
That is just not good form, right?
It's way off.
I'm kind of pointing at nothing. It's like chest area. No, no, no, no, no sponsors.
It's because he's not that motivated to do it because it's not his team.
It's because he also, but maybe his previous logo was there and he's just making...
It's autopilot, it's autopilot.
The pair of people always was around that.
All I can think after seeing performances like this,
and it is nothing against pair vision, love that team.
I really do, they're one of my favorite teams to watch.
How do you kick DM?
How does this happen?
What went down?
What was the exchanging of ideas
where people disagreed?
Key is so useful to have on a team.
Just the fact that you can swap Phoenix to the off lane
have him perform like this is it's something scary that the enemy team now has to draft for.
Yeah. Crazy what you can do when you're supported throughout the entire early game.
Oh, really?
Truly.
You're going to 2v2 lane as a little 1v2 lane, yeah.
Yeah, he's got a pretty rough history of getting grieved in lane.
Yeah, that is definitely a little bit of a stylistic change that the game is very happy
to have happen here with the Undex. We do have to talk about the mids a little bit more
We are going to look at the mid comparison.
I just drove the point home a little bit.
The monkey vs. the amber matchup was definitely very monkey favored.
Yeah, I mean, you can see the last hits are not so bad for Nisha,
because I think when you're amber vs. monkey, all you can really do is farm.
But look at the kills.
And he assists Jira 1-0 and 4.
He turned the early decent laning advantage into pressuring the map
and giving the space back to his team.
But you also have to give a shout out to Nisha, right?
He's only 600 net worth below the monkey king and that's a matchup where his team didn't really help him because of how bad
The sidelines went the jacquero us a feeding on tofu and a special back like there was problems elsewhere initially
He held his net worth if the silent bit better, maybe there would have been some some game to be played
Yeah, there was not a lot of games to be played and that means extra pressure on the shadow fiend which is gonna be
The first pick coming out for Teeble Liquid and it is one of the big four we keep talking about so you
Want this hero to the liver? Yeah
I just wanted to highlight his items because due to the Phoenix
Against an egg against minus attack speed you want to have attack range when I have attack speed
So you can't really do the yashakaya build, you know popularized by pure on tundra
So now he went for muscle madness and pike and that's arguably a slower build right it takes more time
It's more farm for pike and muscle madness to be good
You need the BKB unlike the other build with only Yashakai and Blink you're kind of in the fight already
You're already looking at you know what I want to be here
So not only was the Phoenix off lane a really fun pick to kill in lane
It forces Shadowfiend to do a slower build and now we're slower Mikay and you know insert all the other aggression that we mentioned
Which core will step up and fix the game for you
none of them no no I don't know who we talked about it during the draft already
I do want to know how much of this could have been solved if they ban other
Ursa and never had a proper offlaner they're more comfortable on close to
everything that's a big oof surely close to everything close to I will I will
stand on this hill and say liquid not banning Ursa is just a major L in any
draft due to how they want ace to be on certain heroes and they want boxy
to be free on the map. Saxa in the interview on his content piece said that boxy is the
best at making moves and giving him information. If Ace is in a losing lane, boxy is having
to hold his hand. You don't get that information, you don't get to see boxy shine on the heroes
he wants to shine on because he's having to hold Ace's hand. Bani Arthur, get rid
of TA, you can play a game.
I can understand that. I mean, because the heroes that he plays that are good
versus Ursa, it's like Batrider that's not happening. And then Beast? But that's
also it's it's not an off-laner anymore yeah summons heroes I guess but these are not popular
rudemother rudemother okay oh a lot of options a lot of suggestions I'm sure team liquid has
something to think about as well as we are heading to a third game yandex it's going to be on match
point for this well I guess season seven let's see if they can do it or if liquid can fight back
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Hey everybody, I'm here with the go, Nisha, who is going to rank all of the mids in the
event.
You can't go over yourself, that's okay.
Let's start things off with number five.
Who is the least best of the best?
Five is hard.
Can I start from one?
No, you can't start from the beginning.
The audience needs to grow.
The audience needs to grow in expectation.
No, I need to think what's one, two, and three.
You don't have to do that first. You can start with 5 and we'll make our way there.
I don't know how many slots there are. Okay.
You have 5. You have 5 slots.
Okay, okay. I'll go Chira Junior.
Okay, who?
Chira Junior.
Oh, Chira Junior, number 5. Okay, cool, cool. Yandex, you know.
Slardar, you know.
Slardar, Slanking, yes, yes, fuck.
Melee? Okay, another putt guy.
5 is fine. How about number 4?
I don't know. Wait. I need to counter the slots.
This guy's one, this guy's two.
Okay, spoilers, don't say.
Well, let's go Niku.
Niku! Niku!
Can you talk about that one? That's an interesting pick there.
He is very good, very young.
He plays Kaz, which is respectable.
Very high rank.
Good explanation! Okay, number three.
Let's do maybe...
Laurel. Laurel. Team Spear, you know. He's had a break. He's locked in. He came back.
He's owning. It's good. Team Spirit is back. Number two, since we all know you're going
to put yourself at one, absolutely egotist here, but who's number two?
Okay, let's do Bezin. BZM. Okay, is that a? Acceptable. Acceptable. Acceptable.
Is that it? Like a friend? Quantric. Quantric on Invoker. Oh, okay.
For Invoker, I'll put him here. Invoker's that good. Alright, number one. And you
You can't choose yourself.
One is Ty Lung.
Ty Lung?
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
He plays Viper.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm aware of the heroes.
Thank you.
But why him?
Personality?
Skill?
Yeah, new player and his own.
I guess that's it.
Usually I gotta say my heart is actually growing a lot.
It's like one of the best mids in the world.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but most people voted for you as number one.
I mean, I didn't make it here.
I'm lucky.
Chira Jr.
Got you.
It's nice for you to have so many new blood and talent and skilled guys, also BZM is on
there in Laurel, but there's so many new guys here.
Why is that?
Do you think that they're going to one day surpass the heights of you one day?
They do, I don't know.
But yeah, probably.
Okay.
All right.
Wow.
To the future of Dota 2 players coming from the best mid of the world, Nisha, thank
you for your time.
Team Young Next is one game away of taking home the championship here for Pijawalachia
Season 7, and they're going into game number 3 with a little bit of a drafting advantage
after having beaten the Shadow Fiend or so I think, and I'm going to ask my three specialists
on the gunner, is that the case, or we talked about the Ursa ban, but that could have
solved everything and maybe then the shadow fiend would have done a better job.
I mean if we're gonna go with the storyline of PJ Walla here, last season we have a stand-in
win tournament, now we have another team with a stand-in, also in the tournament.
So yeah I think also the first game they got the Largo so hopefully no Largo no shadow fiend,
your bands in the first pool are getting kind of limited. I think the Ursa wasn't,
it was good, I don't know if it's necessary to ban but I definitely think that
I
Don't know what to do for liquid like I I think that they're running out of steam. I know they kind of okay
Oh, well, okay. Yeah, all right sure. I have the answer
I think Blitz needs to sit down with the boys and it's probably doing that right now
Is that even with the boys drafting guys guys wake the f up?
And he's gonna drop the actual mmm word well, we're great. Oh, yeah, frick
Yeah, well true that's right because because the I don't listen they're down to games
They got stomped and he's sitting down
I really think there needs to be something talk the giggling is not okay. They're kind of a laughing every time
They are the giggling is good. Maybe this is post-talk and they're feeling good like I feel like between the games somebody
Who's not tired because the thing is today has been exhausting for them. That is a fact
It's been really long days for the entire tournament because we've had so many 2-1s, so many games that go super late.
People are sleep deprived, and now they played the second longest best of 3 in Dota history.
This is just a result of being dropped to the lower bracket, you know?
Yeah, that's bracket diff right there.
That is bracket diff.
That's why the upper bracket team, they're coming with an advantage.
I've never, like, that sentence has always been like, yeah, sure, it kind of exists.
but no this right here I'm like okay you know it matters 100 it matters we have
Largo still in the pool by the way we'll see if you liquid things
Chetaphine did I say Largo? I meant Chetaphine. Oh Chetaphine. Yeah Chetaphine is available.
But it is Chetaphine obviously but Chetaphine still is surely they're gonna
about it come on yeah come on maybe they want to play with us oh my gosh well
they just lost with it so maybe they're like oh we lost with it we'll
just copy exactly you did well ever so look liquid band SD so they could go for
the Watson wind and then if SF comes out who cares yeah but then there's just
gonna be a Mars on 13 unless it's bad but then it's ace Mars and whoa back up
hold up whoa let's not let jacarra cannot explain yourself that's really
unpack that I think they've ridden off Mars you guys afraid of honesty I feel
like he's not afraid of honesty I think they've ridden off Mars that he's better
at the aura heroes the Mars needs more practice versus like S tier teams
especially when you're down you want somebody who's looked like uncomfortable
on a hero to play an uncomfortable hero when you're two games down at a best
of five grand finals why just get him tight hunter some of his heroes he's
S tier with it's not that hard I mean it's a moment of honesty then the
the reason why I wove was not because of the...
Whoa!
Hold up.
No, no, no, I guess.
They're not that wove.
They're completely out of the...
No, where's the shout-offing?
They're just having gentlemen's agreements about pickets.
I will say that yesterday,
Maladich was being called out or shouted out,
I'd rather, by his coach,
that if he gets his hands on his jikiro,
that's the strongest position Jannis can find themselves in.
Yeah, it's very good.
It goes back to the point about the, ha, Ace Mars, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ace just hasn't had the strongest tournament in regards to his laning.
He's had moments on heroes where he's like stepped up,
and the underdog task earlier today was a really incredible lane for him.
But it's not been like Ace's tournament, right?
He's kind of fit more into enabling others than allowing himself to shine.
So when I say Yandex for the first picture, Kiro,
it is a statement of we are going to remind you
that we're planning to shut down Ace once again in the first like eight minutes.
And the thing is, it's a really, really hard off-lanning patch.
Actually, Blitz used an excellent analogy.
I was talking to him before the series, and he said,
off-lane is like basketball, except you're thrown the ball
once every 20 minutes, and you're
expected to hit a three-pointer with it.
Whereas the other core roles are thrown the ball every two
minutes, so they can sink the three-pointers easily,
because they have a lot of practice.
So the thing is, you just need off-laners
to clutch right now and I feel like that's where pure comfort comes in.
And maybe that's why Yannick's are taking away the Underlord in the first
date, a band that we haven't really seen against any other team.
Here also at some point was like 06 or 07.
Well, respect.
Respecting the Ace Mars because they're not going, whoa.
What's stopping Liquid from banning with, oh, then they don't have to,
then they can't ban them Ursa.
Yep. There we go.
What if you ban the Ursa? Yes, listening. You take the Wind, then you take the Shadowfiend and Tide, and you put the Wind as a pause for it.
Oh, that's good. That's spicy stuff. I like that. What can Yandex pick to throw a wrench in that one? Viper.
No. Yeah, I mean, that's okay versus the Tide. No! Viper in the plan Jenkins!
18, 18 Viper would really...
That could be good versus the Titanium.
Devastate that.
But then you put the wind as your mid.
It was just a mid wind, it had one game, I can't remember if it's 0-1-1-0, but still
it's like, I mean, it's either 0% or 100% or something.
That's a pretty big difference.
That's great odds.
Sounds like 50-50.
50.
I like those odds, they're great odds.
That's an average.
Yeah, I've taken a very long time to be banned on the earth, I do not ban
the other you've been here so it's work can you beat the other you've been there
so and you take the wind I mean I would love to see locked in or the tiny Ben or
the tiny pig so tiny has not lost a game yet I believe great heroics great
player thank you I think niche is tiny also hasn't lost a game unless it lost
the game and that was oh no oh we were trying to the previous statement so
Nisha's tiny is better than socks are tiny yeah but how do you factor in the
see a hundred percent he's mid lane what is that supposed to or sign the pool
tea that's concerns congratulations to yandex your season 7 champions wow
Wow, that's... Okay, so if all this pressure is on Ace, why isn't the same type of pressure on DM?
Or rather, why does he get away with it? Is it just because he has a different hero pool?
DM can play Phoenix.
Oh, I was so worried when you got over that one.
I held back a gun. I was expecting you to go late.
Because you said it's an honesty draft, right?
Radiance team.
Sure. Oh, there's the win.
Oh, no, it's happening! Gun Daddy, you're right.
Here we go.
Oh, the other two here, as you said.
The next were Shadowfiend and...
Tide.
But it is nice. It's basically using like a pick as a ban as well.
And I think you're happy. You're more than happy.
I think the other solution is because they didn't mean they said they can take Shadaphine Tiny.
If Yandex don't pick the Tiny here.
And you can also run SF Mid and carry Mikae, Windranger.
It blocks Yandex from picking some Void Spirit, Ember Spirit.
It doesn't really want to play into an SF in lane.
I really don't think mid SF is as bad as people perceive it to be.
I don't think it's bad at all. I think it's very good.
You're a Greaves believer, right?
The difference with Liquid is you are moving away from how they got through Grand Finals.
I know right now they're not performing the greatest in the two games, but...
You should play Manker. You're right.
You're putting them in a step in a different direction.
I thought we were going to take 70 min games.
Right.
And having the Shadow of the Mid, the wind carries pretty good.
You got two scaling cores.
You're going to have Igs and then Refresher alone and then Pactix.
Yeah, it makes sense.
So Yennex, do you need to pick a core here?
Kind of technically, I've seen when
does the carry or when is the support.
So it's not too much information.
They could pick their offline here.
I don't really know that's their style.
But if it was, it'd be Brewmaster.
Yep.
Sentil being banned.
It's like Sentil first, Brew second.
Brewsh is very good for his wind.
It's very good for his warlock.
You have this giant AoE dispel.
And it's OK being blind.
If they take the SF and now I think the win you just commit to carry.
Yeah, they took the dangle.
But that's because Yandex have taken the flexibility out of it, right?
You pick the SF, everything you've been talking about where SF can be near, it can be carry.
They're controlling it to 18 though. Liquid have to reveal two heroes, and they will then decide themselves,
okay, SF's not going to this lane because you've revealed something.
I just think it's easy for Liquid to reveal the right, because they see the safe lane, which is Shadowfiend's jikiro.
And now you can pick an entire lane versus that.
Is it though because like I said SF goes mid and then I mean it can but like you know
That's not forget the bear in the room. You know that that thing can I I'm gonna forget that bear until the earth is picked
Yes, no that's risky. I
It is what it is also bear
Sort of and it's a pen
Isn't there in panda bear look at the ears dude look at the ears
Panas don't have and neat no bear has ears like that
You know it costs a million dollars a year to rent a panda from China. Yeah, only they do. Yeah, there's very expensive
I feel like a million a year is not like I mean the amount of attraction that it bring to a zoo
You probably make it back but depends on where the zoo is anyway shiver anyway
He's not to play brewmaster this event yet
He has not
But it's it's in his wheelhouse of like aura buying
Tanky boys that kind of follow a flow chart. I would like dark willow
So, Ringmaster is fine too. I was just thinking of some team fight kind of control. I was thinking
of Willow for the fear, and I really like the root versus Tiny, but I think the Ringmaster
gives them save and also kind of team fight with the ults. The save has looked really strong
today in all of the games, every game Ringmaster is in. It feels so annoying to play versus.
Namely, the biggest one I noticed is the box. Just drinks for Jett Talisman. It's
in the air. So, a nullifier, which would be a counter to that and other save, if
you box before the nullfire hits you dodge it. What? I did not know that happened a lot
in the liquid game earlier today. They would like go on a guy, it was Versave, right? And
save would box him so fast that he would dodge the nullfire. Oh my goodness, that's new tech.
Next level save. Cool. Very cool. That's a new vote coming out on 18, so surely one of the
stronger heroes that they meant to revolve their drafts around, but they're lacking something to
use the cataclysm left. Yeah at the moment they're kind of leaning on tiny and
jacquero to kind of do the left thing on that one. I don't know if they really
need it but already for Watson I'm now moving towards like potential
lunars and heroes that can like play a good lane against Brew, farm up, get
tanky. With Shadowfiend Offlane? Oh Shadowfiend going carry. No I'm thinking
Shadowfiend offlane. So for the offlane for DM to set up for
There we go. There's the enigma that lanes very well to Tiny. Yeah
Would be the number one. I mean we can say Phoenix. I don't think it's particularly good here Tide as well
I would say Tide and Nigma are both very good. Those are like the top two
So we got two bands coming out for liquid aim towards the off lane
Tide would be one of those but it's it's DM so like enigma is really scary. Yeah, it's this guy
Most players I wouldn't be like, oh you have to ban the enigma. Yeah, but it's a purely it's DM
I think he's one of the few offlanders this patch that make it look good a lot of the other ones look okay on it
You know like eh, but he's consistently good. He consistently hits in the back. Well, he buys the right items
He changes items a lot. Sometimes he'll go aura. Sometimes he'll go more like the greedy blinks and try to play off black hole
Every calibrated my brain now that I realize that
Well, now that you're off. I'm thinking I'm thinking cunca. Oh, I was looking at cunca too
Damage on liquid is a little lackluster, right? It's you've got to kill within the split early on you buy minus and agg
When the Ranger you need like what mouse room BKB if you're not killing in folks I can be awkward
So a bit of the rhombus. Yeah, and that's group each other together. I can see a world where
It just hurts and they could too much where they're chasing kills
It's pretty good against wind and legs
You're slowly poking him down and because fine with that and you can hit him through the window on the tie bringer. Yeah
What is Nisha gonna play against in our door?
They need damage, so yeah it makes sense.
It's surprisingly one of the best mid-matchups vs. invoker, it feels like one of those ones
that you wouldn't think is that bad.
Cause you're like oh I'll just voker vs. melee here, that doesn't do anything but you
kill the forcefair in the lane, which is the biggest thing.
And he doesn't, the lot of vokers don't really build an armor item, they kinda are
trying to skip the shields cause they want to go like meteor hammer, aggs, this kind
of thing.
And so you just blink on him, crush him and he dies in the mid game cause he
only has like five armor and I was to get amplifies their whole team like it
let's the brewmaster actually kill heroes with the minus armor that's the wind
kill any hero that they'll and I just think that it's this even the soul
resistance is good like it looks really nice he shows and played at this time
I believe but it's good and then for yandex I still think the enigma is good
now that the tide the resort ban there's not really this a tanky hero I
can think of I'm sad that we haven't seen seeing DM play enigma really it's
like is one of his best heroes but it's lost in within this tournament there's
always like the doom as well because you get purged for the win oh wow they
did actually they have convinced the coach that it is a good hero and here
it is again I would say oh man they're playing for game four to get them to
ban the Phoenix out but obviously this is not the case they just simply think
DM is too good isn't this now go back for the storm for Nisha
Try and test it go in poke the egg
Reset if you you know you're backs against the wall. Yeah, if I'm purely drafting for like the liquid and Nisha
Everything it would say storm but like my gut
I would lean towards Sardar or even even a pangalir
I don't think he's going to play the pango, but he's not so so it's taking a page of
of the Thailand's book.
Thailand, is that good to?
He is.
The goat beast master.
He is the goat beast master mid-player.
I thought he didn't play for a month.
He didn't because of the reasons.
Oh.
So, bringing up the grand finals.
So, main question, Team Liquid, it's 0-2 against them.
Is this enough?
Are they forcing game four?
Or are we going to say congratulations to Yandex after this one?
I don't really like the Beastmaster.
I worry that there's so much random kite for the roar.
Like you'll have an egg if you don't roll the finisher, you'll have a toss if you don't
roll the tiny hero spell.
It's just so annoying to kill heroes.
I also think Brumaster is kind of annoying to play in all these random AoE because
it's not a BKB, but like Earth Panda, it's just ashes resistance, so it's getting
stunned.
slowed, trying to move through the fights. So I do worry about Team Liquid. It's one of those things
where it's like, everything will look so different if they snowball the early game, but I see a world
that they don't. I think Liquid found ways to kind of survive the draft, right? By picking Brewmaster,
made Yandex think of different heroes. That alone might give Liquid more confidence, but I think
at Ace, on a brew, like you should be able to get through this lane. It might be a little
weird, but that alone, you play with Nisha, you find kills, you have Nisha can kill SF
at any stage of the game, right? If you have the correct set up.
He can be piercing against SF is always good.
Yeah. And then BKBs will look good, but yeah, it's scary.
Up your battle for them, maybe.
Well, other than obviously wondering who's going to win this game three
and maybe with the championship, we're all wondering also
if SirActionSlash has lost his hiccup.
Let's find out as he talks to Blitz.
Perhaps you know.
Welcome back. We are here with Blitz, though, to Blitz.
Scary stuff in the last series.
We did see, you know, the off-lane Phoenix and now we're seeing it again.
Were you expecting them to do the Offlane Phoenix one more time?
I was not.
I'm not really sure, because they're a bit of a unique team, so I'm not really sure what
the angle is for them.
I think they just kind of like it, because they have other forms of initiation already
on their team.
They really rely on Sox to set tempo for them.
So I'd imagine that's the logic behind that.
And we had to let Shadowfiend in, because you can't ban everything.
Shadowfiend is brought out.
Obviously, you guys know how to deal with the Shadowfiends, you have the tools
this time.
I hope so.
I think we have a nice kill potential on him, yeah, I think so we have a BKB piercing Sun they don't have a save
I think it's pretty good. All right, boys, and I know that you love talking to the fans
Especially in these moments where they might not see you again for the tournament. I know that's not gonna happen
I'm confident it won't but anything out there
How can the team liquid fans pool their energy to spirit bomb you guys into another game?
They don't need to do anything like I just I love this game
I want to be a part of it for as long as I possibly can so I don't take these moments for granted
So like there's no quit or anything like that
I still want to win and it's hard to get to finals in the first place
And so even though it looks bleak right now
There's no giving up or just like well, you know, we gave it our best shot like I told the guys
You know just wake the fuck up. Let's get it going like yeah
Let's one game at a time
Reverse sweep, baby.
One get at a time. Absolutely.
Well, thank you so much. We have Blitz coming in
to that booth to go watch the game. Hope you guys
are watching too. See you soon.
Well, let's see if they can do exactly that.
Cherish every moment of the beautiful game we all know
and love as Dota 2 as we head into Game 3
of Yandex against Liquid. And Blitz there
saying a lot of emphasis can be put on this.
Sucks are tying in to get that initiation going
as Yandex pick up this Asakura lane.
The feeds again for DM and Chiro Junior
Junior on an invoker mid yeah invoker mid a hero that can be
Exploited a bit if you play really well in lane stage on this Beastmaster
You could power deny him a lot with the help of the boars and like blitz said wake the fuck up boys
It's time for team liquid here to down they need a good laning stage
Anisha already getting some good clicks in onto the invoker some strike not securing the range creep
So it does get denied by Anisha the niche master already off to a very good start in that middle lane
Yeah, got to be a pretty comfortable lane for him I think. The invoker generally is quite exploitable, and Beastmaster is one of the strongest mid lane heroes if you don't have a way to force him away like a Viper or something.
Already 5 and 3 against the 2 and 0 of Jirijunia.
Yeah, and the game plan is quite clear here coming in from Liquid. They want to survive on the off lane.
Ringmaster and Brewmaster pretty good master heroes here down on the bottom lane. Meanwhile Top, you have a really strong lane in the Windranger and Warlock together.
I'm sorry, that's wind master and war master. Yeah, all the masters all the masters in the game for liquid
It's true. They picked three masters, huh?
Did indeed boxy giving the clicks the malady
Oh, that's a lot of damage triple fairy fire for Jikiro, but unlikely to survive as he gets stuck in the sauna. Yeah, just off to
Precarious situation there caught in the river
He didn't commit the fair fires because they do have a cool down of course if you don't use them early enough
Not worth it.
And that top lane sucks, a tiny DM Phoenix against a Warlock and Windranger lane.
So double ranged with sustain, some poke and harassment out of liquid, should be able to
keep Tiny at bay, while bottom lane, Watson, getting hit down by ace and Boxy.
Not quite enough to finish the job as he verifies back up and Malady's there to turn
and hold the tide.
Damage being traded both ways, Watson gonna heal under his tower.
Boxy did take quite a bit of damage as well, but of course trying to be as aggressive
this can into this SF.
A much stronger laning phase, and a couple of these lanes are liquid though, two of their
cores at the top of the pops.
The RooMaster 3 and 1 though, not getting any face time with the creeps.
They're only struggling to stick in lane and get the last hits going, as there's
Chikiro Shad of Fiend lane.
I mean, SF 3 and 1 thing, but SF Chikiro?
Yeah, it's a very disturbing safe lane to look at when you're heading towards
your lane there.
Of course Phoenix doesn't have much better of a time 10 and 0 also getting zoned out a lot
But he does have creeps coming towards this tower a lot of experience coming his way
The panel weren't quite sure with his Beastmaster last pick
Nisha they said taking a leaf out of the Thailand book quite reliant still on the Aghanim's timing to get him up and running
But they've got this spell piercing stun
They can get on top of the shadow fiend
The trouble is gonna be with all the disables with tornado avalanche toss supernova
There's a lot of nonsense to try and break through if you do initiate as liquid. I like it a lot
I think it's more directs it plays towards the early game. It plays high tempo. It's not this tinker head to late game
I also think you know exhaustion is a real thing here
They've been playing for a long time on liquid already
Drafting stuff like tinker and heading towards 70 minute games or something to win
It's probably not the best strategy when you're this exhausted anymore. I am
300 minutes. Yeah play fast. Foxy burned down Sunstrike on ace good
Connection there and team Yandex take down two of liquid in that bottom lane
This is gonna be so key for jared junior who has a hard lane to get some sun strikes in on the side lanes
Helping out getting kills help his experience a little bit himself as well. He's suffering at mid lane 13-2 for the invoker
Sucks are gonna contest make sure there's no small camp stack
might look for a lane drag as well as
Phoenix has been held away from the wave and Micke can continually right-click into DM and force the phoenix back
DM not having a comfortable lane, but same time he's getting decent experience
Compared to ace on the brewmaster still level 2. It's about to level 3
But he is pretty far behind right now
That has been a big topic of discussion through this tournament
Now Axe has had some struggles with his hero pool and trying to pull out the Mars, not having the best performance, really relying on this bristleback underlord, some of the slug heroes to get into the middle late gate with the Auras.
Now pulling out the brewmaster, panel saying the first time he's done that is tournament. What do you expect from him? Is it catch up through Midas into Agnabseptor? We're going to see some Auras from the brew.
I think going for Midas Axe is probably going to be the play.
Personally, I have not been sold on Brumaster. You and I have been casting a few of them.
I just have not seen Brumaster feel like this dominant force overall.
There's been some exceptions, but I think it's very, very execution heavy.
And, uh...
Ah, sir.
They're going to come in and throw some spells at Nisha.
DM also coming in.
Tofu throws the bombs on them though, and that's Liquid pretty happy forcing a couple of reactions.
Nisha alive while the Sun Strike not gonna lamp. Tofu will side step it quite simply.
Easy joke for him, he's gonna stay just fine. A lot of moves as even Ringmaster comes in mid. He's been spotted but still the glyph.
Yeah, going on the tower. Nisha chasing on the Chera Junior, team the beast, the crack of the whip, the dagger thrown into the back of the Invoker but he's got a fairy fire.
And the turnaround with Malady arriving, Boksy and Saksa gonna go head to head and a toss into the air brings Boksy down with a third.
While DM could look for Tofu now. The Warlock has wandered into the wrong neighborhood, brought down as Liquid lose two support just before the six minute rune spawns.
Now Mickey is here as well, but a little bit too late to join his team as they already lost two.
Gonna run away in the end. So much needed kills going the way of Radiant. That's a good job by Chere Jr.
using his Forge Spirit to block the first impalement arcs, otherwise he would have died there.
He had this little Forge Spirit sacrifice his life for him.
Yeah, good realization that Liquid wanted to kind of leave that bottom lane, get Bruce and Levels,
play into mid around that active rune early on.
That Sancta Tiny was there a minute before the move was actually made.
Looking for a dive down bottom with the Warlock coming in as well.
This Sf is the target.
He's gonna get run at Malady coming across with a nice path, but Watson has already lost so much health ace with tofu find the kill
Nice kill of participation for the warlock to join his first kill this game
He's been part of so the book not getting massive this game, but he's building something
That's the seven-minute rune is gonna go one for one for these teams no invasion Phoenix is gonna get his level six
And then head over and take it
Yeah, now Ace has actually got himself some creeps 26 and 4 closing in on that level 5
Not an awful situation anymore after that early landing stage
Yeah, no course lagging massively behind but Invoker sitting at 27 versus the 45-11 Beastmaster is still a disparity
So those Sunstrike
Participations are gonna be so important to get him back into the game. That's what Saks is looking here with an observable place near Lotus Pool
Liquid sat tight behind Ace's brewmaster about to walk into Malady
Gate through by Windranger. It's been spotted
Sucks it. Oh
He might toss onto the SF. He's looking for an angle
Right in the middle of them gets through the tree line
And now the D ward from liquid teams know that the other team knows so D ward comes out control back up that area
But they don't know that there's one more ward over on the Lotus, so they have very deep information.
And now they play to the left, getting in behind Tofu, the first port of contact.
Toss on to SF.
Avalanche tosses a Requiem, the box lands and crumbles. A cardboard falls apart.
Now you can't quite save him. Bonus 50% magic res, but when you're right on top of an SF with a perfectly timed Requiem of Souls, you still die.
Also get tossed out of it, so it doesn't really matter.
matter. The box is only in the area. Fall through the trap door and see all the clones. And now you're the one who's dead.
Watson, I'm going to get that mask of madness build. Looks like he's going to try and get the right clicks going.
Going to go for the more right click oriented build mix. A bit of sense against Brewmaster I feel, so you can kill the
Brewlings. If you don't have the damage to bring them down, fights can be very tricky. At least being able to kill the
until the storm panda really fast can be an exceptional tool to have.
Nice, didn't a scrappy early game.
Lots of moves, lots of reactions.
I think we're trying to play as quickly as they possibly can.
And Micae, overall feeling pretty comfortable on this Windranger.
Zero, zero, zero.
Second place in the net worth.
But currently being walked out by a couple of Yandex heroes.
Well for now, but Avertos is coming.
And the Phoenix has walked straight on into the Windranger.
Sun strike there, placed on the toss.
Damage comes in and Wind Ranger dead. No longer comfortable.
God damn it, onto a Cresk.
Saxa threw him closer to the Sun for more damage, Gareth.
The higher you are, not actually a mechanic. Should be.
Tall heroes take more damage.
Poor Saxa, poor Saxa indeed.
We'll meet you now, look in to try and get to his Agatham Scepter through the stacks in the jungle.
Takes a little leave of absence from that middle lane to gather up what gold he can.
Because that has got to be the primary item Liquid play through, is this Agh's Blink with a roar from Beast?
Yep, yeah I completely agree, but they hold onto it safely in Tower, using the brewmaster to come up here and defend.
Now we're gonna look for a move with not really Golem yet, Tofu still needs a bit more experience.
They've got Primal Split, but DM onto Tofu, burning the wall lock down and having Supernova.
Ace and Boxy, the attack speed's slow, the Sun Strike coming, DM! The Supernova lands!
Boxy about to die to this Phoenix, Nisha's come across trying to protect them though.
Is the box break free but DM's on a killing spree?
Liquid chasing forward for the tornado, holds them back, animation cancels the plato-split.
DM though still focused down as Mickey comes in with the damage.
Okay, but that's Team Liquid bringing everything to get those kills.
And ultimately, sure, you bring down DM, but there was so much attention being brought to it.
Invoker happily farming away, SF hitting creeps in the jungle.
And Malady pushing tail on bottom, in effect of 5 vs 3, yeah and he trade out 2 for 2.
I wouldn't even say that Chia Jr. was really committed to that fight as well, he was mainly
just kind of hanging out mid, it's like what's happening, okay I'll throw some spells.
Oh, tossing the Requiem, the Pro Master, eviscerated.
That looks so nice, perfect timing as well, same as we saw with Team Spirit when they
ran this combination, they got so much work done and it's just rinse and repeats.
Every time they have SF ulti, Tiny will try and get towards SF and combo with him.
I have the perfect amount of damage as well.
Brumaster has about 1300 health.
Might need to think about buying another bracer or upgrade his boots or something,
but he needs that Midas money so desperately.
Yeah, or at least getting over to the earth stand before he gets tossed
so he gets the magic resistance.
I believe he was in the storm stand when he got tossed back there.
I'm not 100% sure, but that could maybe save him enough to get ulti out.
Everything right now from liquid is smoking mirrors to try and obscure the position of Nisha again
Agonymceptor vitally important for this beast master
In the meantime Watson has finished off that mask of madness
Getting pretty quick into that dragon lance. Yeah her can pike builds make the long sense
He's gonna get dove this game by Windranger a lot who is currently setting up a DM
shackle shot
Golden drops
I've already dived away.
Slightly too slow, very hard to catch a hero with Golem honestly.
The dive is quite quick.
Golem's so delayed.
Alright, it's a farming Golem now.
Yep, I'm okay, you thought this was your farm?
No, no, no, no.
So we don't get a kill and then you steal my farm.
Feels good. Happy carry noises.
And then in the mid lane, you got Chara Jr.
Alacritying up, Fort Spirits.
Forward, down to the tower.
Kills off for tier one.
unable to respond.
And Yandex again off to a strong start.
Just playing so well in the early game.
With the meteor hammer on this invoker as well,
they could start putting more attention to open up the sideline towers.
This DM Phoenix is so scary.
And Blitz saying it was kind of looking for the angle, what they were going for.
Really opting just to go for this damage output from DM with a spirit vessel.
Giving them this really nice timing.
Ten minutes in where the supports could just play with him.
like Tiny Phoenix can basically kill anyone on the map.
Like Tiny SF, same story.
Wherever Tiny goes, death follows.
Yeah, that's very true.
I like the Phoenix pick for a few reasons, by the way.
The Phoenix makes sense, partly because DM is good with it.
I played so many games with him
and he always looks like he knows what he's doing.
Comfort.
Yeah, comfort zone, first of all.
But second of all, this tournament has been very bursty.
You pick bursty heroes, quickly get rid of someone.
And we've seen a lot of Aeon discs.
If there's one hero that likes to survive burst
and use a button after an AON disc, it's Phoenix.
He's literally the best AON disc carrier in my eyes
because you always get to supernovae.
There's no way to stop that.
Yeah, Phoenix also acts kind of as this transformation hero, right?
You're basically like the druid from D&D.
You've got multiple pools of HP.
You've got the supernova to reset yourselves.
So the enemy spends spells.
They roar you. They primal split. They run at you.
Focus fire. You supernova.
If you survive, you've got another new hero to come back up.
Yeah, also area denial.
the entire radiant draft, this area denial in the teamfights.
We saw it from Yannick's in the previous game with Wu Kong,
well, Malady, with a very greedy play trying to gun shield.
See, you fell out.
He's fighting up against Torfu, he's bouncing right.
First thing, the warlock.
But Aks and Voxy are gonna come in here.
They're trying to take this wisdom shrine from the Jikiro,
but are they winning this fight?
Malady stands inside the fire,
Bobsy will push him back,
and he's got the wisdom shrine,
but he's forcing Ace to have to ulti.
Our Maladikang 1v3, chop well done!
I kills one, forces ulti, this is just huge impacts.
I mean tip your support right now, what are you doing?
That's crazy.
I mean, he looked insane for going in there, but yeah, 2000 damage done.
That's the- the drum scares?
They got damn drums.
The drums secure out.
They're pretty good.
He double attacks and then he procs a bunch and he just absolutely melts through people.
Sickening stuff.
That's what they were saying. Axl loves his Maladik hero. Strongest player here, a combination he believes.
He definitely knows his limits, I'll say that. I did not think that that would work out for him, but he proved us wrong.
Radiant vision. Seize Mikay, re-approaching that top lane.
Liquid have maneuvered into position with two supports to smoke and get in to this top left corner, but Boxy's walked into the middle of three of them.
Liquid probably going to be glad they lose the ringmaster and not the wind ranger
Pump fake on the warlock ulti not gonna drop it there just for support and feed away is ulti
They need to hold on some of their tools
They've got a lot of rhythmic devices now with the agathams that drumbeast master the animation cancelling on the warlock lots of
Bidum Bidum
Lots of Bidum Bidum, but not too much happening for liquid right now as it's yandex basically making all the productive moves
Getting ahead every time
Travels up on the phoenix. He might be caught by this work.
Walk straight into the Shackershot on Roar right on time.
That was so needed for Liquid. They need to start getting some stuff going their way because the way I see it, they are the ones who are more on the timer.
I think the scaling is insane on Radiant. SF is going to get a very strong Invoker.
He's working towards that Aghanim Scepter as well. 1200 gold away.
I can just see that timing when they have all their big spells ready and group up. It's going to be hard to teamfight into.
So the big thing going to be this Brewmaster level 12 with Agatomceptor, Beastmaster with Blink BKB after the Ags.
And of course Windranger looking for all the damage items she can muster up with Mjolnir being queued up.
Not too far away from it.
Yeah, it's not like they don't have Team Fight on Team Liquid as well.
They have fantastic spells, but I think they're a little bit more dependent on these solo pick-offs
splitting in map using Focus Fire and Beast Ulti just to get pick-offs.
It's been a while since we've activated the SF though.
A little quiet from Watson as he farms through the jungle.
We had a few moments where Tiny just tosses,
Requiem gets the combo going,
but it seems like Yandex pretty happy just to pump the brakes a bit,
slow down, defend their tier 1 towers
and not give Liquid any more avenues back into the game.
He's been playing the safe area more.
He's not really headed into that top area as Liquid
or making a very active job of keeping map control,
playing up on the tier 1, even though it's gone,
Playing where it would have been making Yandex fight over every into that top left corner
That doesn't mean they is farming quite safely and almost as complete as hurricane pike
So first tool of safety and a very very useful thing to have against the Eastmaster is multiple
Hurricane pikes or four steps at least so we'll see if there will be more four steps coming out
Perhaps from the tiny or from the to cure later on he's cured up the agonist after all melody probably wants to do what we've seen before
I absolutely
Scary times incoming though, because the way that Liquid want to approach these fights is kind of dog pile on an enemy hero with a roar.
Mechanicalism supernova available, there's so many ways to disengage through aggression, right?
Now this Agatomceptron invoker is done.
Liquid, they want to make a smoke play.
Oh, this could be rough for them.
It could be. They're getting vision on Phoenix though. They see him coming to the lane.
Jump from Nisha as possible.
DM in danger.
Dive straight, MDM! Dives away!
Or, they don't get the raw or shackle shot on him!
A blind jump, they didn't know which tree he was behind!
And it looks like Brumaster also had to spend.
Prime will split down bottom.
Yeah, good jumps.
Still making an aggressive move, looking to get used out of the Warlock ulti.
Feels pretty bad not to crack it.
Still all Tier 1 towers standing for Yandex.
Not what you want if you're a Warlock player.
It's a hot approach.
same with brewmaster he's also hero known for his ability to ulti take a
tower dive yeah that's not happened here for team liquid and now this is where
yandex start to feel stronger tiny blink cataclysm invoker and hurricane pike
estep is ready to join as well he's not just gonna afk anymore his wall
are gonna be the first point of contact get some wards down near the
roche pit but malady moves up high ground vision given both teams know they saw the
d-word at least on both teams here so because they find to put a new word just
barely outside of range I like that play boxy right heads up he's like okay you
d-worded this area I'll just plant a new one and keep tabs on them while Nisha is
gonna run it cheer a junior bottom don't allow that free push so softly
arrive at your tier two this is something that invoker is so adept at
having this ghost push on the map without really committing his hero.
It's got TP base, get full HP and mana resource filled up.
Farm-wise, Team Liquid is still doing pretty well.
Looking at net-worth-wise, I mean 10,800 on the Beastmaster, Windranger following suit,
it's looking good for them.
And once they get the beak be timing, Windranger will be able to ulti the SF and go on him.
That's one of their strongest tools that they have coming up.
I'm just concerned about if the game goes later than that.
that they basically need to make stuff happen with their with their bkb timings it is a nice big window
time brew is going to finish off the acronym scepter and he's very close to level 12 as well
it's then what are the gunners saying you basically become what a level 18 hero whatever
yep yeah i mean it gives you one level on the on the ulti so very nice timing for him getting
both of those complete here and toss up extend Watson forward heading towards a fast
Tormenter they're hanging around in the area, but not gonna be able to go up there and steal
Team liquid supports basically just looking at their course like okay. You want to farm you want to for okay? Okay?
I guess we'll just stand here
Will be the mobile wards stand in front of you the bouncer to the nightclub the liquid have set up for themselves
It's a club that they're gonna leave though because Roche went bottom and that's where the party is at Gareth
Shuffle their feet through the twin gate
Gonna play that area, I think Tiny is still gonna try and hold on to Wisdom, Saksa making his move over there
I'm looking good to go for double Wisdom, Mast TP coming to defend it
Tolfu sitting on the high ground, it's just to Kiro, are we gonna have a repeat? Not this time
Upheaval, we keep him at bay, Zoning Upheaval
Yeah, even with the drums on Warlock as well
Oh, I love that it's met on a... drum supports everywhere
I mean, I'm a bounty hunter spammer, so, you know, Durham says, like, bread and butter for me.
What's your favourites on?
I'm Chiro Junior and DM, both getting boots of travel.
So they can continue to play the split map and dodge the liquid fight.
There's peek and strength for Team Liquid.
Of course, Yandex know exactly what's going on.
So they can do what they want on the map.
I think Yandex wants to fight now before those magic communities come in,
force a roast, or maybe just get some pick-offs at least.
Because Team Liquid are still in a little bit of a window where they are not quite ready to fight.
Need 600 gold over on your Beastmaster, need 700 over on Windranger.
But Team Liquid have a good read. They're drawing on the map, they know this invasion is coming.
Sure do. The Forge Spirit is leading out, trying to give vision.
Smoke breaks, and Boxy in position to get sniped.
Support from Tofu also going to happen here. Chiridunia gap closes on the wall-off.
Nice path to stop any ideas of tofu TP and give them two kills which leaves them into the roast pit
Throw two ice walls on that poor guy. I spent the ice wall
Well in place and yeah, that's gonna be easy move into words the Roche a little bit of extra minus armor from this stuff
Not a stompiest games one or two
Too liquid still with a shout near in game three to try and pull the way back into this series
This is definitely the best-looking game yet, but that's so concerning
Liquid have been a team that's looked really strong in the early game, honestly, against a lot of different matchups.
One of the only teams that kept pace with Heroic, the speed at which they were playing.
Yeah, for sure. And here, going up against Yandex, it's just looking night and day.
Liquid do not have the same pace in their draft and play.
BKB is up for Misha.
Most important hero on the map here, but the supernova quickly...
...hast by DM.
Good reflex roll it doesn't happen
Don't give away any easy pick off for the Beastmaster
Which might have considered just you know popping the attack speed use BKB and start attacking into that egg
But a little bit risky when you don't really know how many are nearby. Yeah, you've got no idea
And the index making sure that all of the waves are trending across towards this dire base
Bottom lane gets shoved by meteor top lane tiny clears the wave
I still have the shadow theme to sit back and continue scaling.
I wonder which mid laner is going to be the first one to die here as Chira Junior and Nisha both sitting with Zero Death so far.
It's going to be Chira Junior right? I feel like Yandex will protect the SF, the fact he's got Aegis as well.
Chira Junior might just get in there, scout him, roll and run at him by liquid.
Could be.
maybe but right now tofu finds a ward the minor victories you gotta take anything
you can get at this point didn't get to pick off on the phoenix but you forced
the ulti at least didn't get a gank connected oh you got a d-ward you get
to start somewhere that must feel sad for the brewmaster though I'm buying
my disenagathum scepter guys I'm hitting my timing guys I've got my
items guys and then the game just slows down to a crawl. I think we're kind of
stuck in the mud now thinking okay we've found we've scaled we've got to this
point now where we have two of the top net worth heroes. That's why I don't like
about brewmaster. I've been hating on the hero a little bit and big reason is
why I think brew when you fall a little bit behind doesn't really have the
ulti to bring you back in from nowhere because it's hard to initiate
with it. You can't jump someone and pop ulti and just kill them. This is more
of a big team fight spell and usually when you're behind you come back by
pick offs. Brewmaster is horrible at pick offs, he can't kill anything.
Like tug of war against a tiger basically the way Yandex are dragging them from one
side of the map to the other.
I'm sure a junior is gonna force the reaction to come and defend bottom lane.
Sax has just been sitting top as well and you've always got to be afraid of
where Tiny is right coming back to that point of Sax of being the
initiation tool if Tiny's in an area he's got the ways to catch you
And Brumaster has come in here, but does slip into the tree line to dodge away from Tiny at least for now.
That's a good word. Eskimo walk into him. Ace, links to safety.
How safe is he though? With a cold snap to an Edo, cheer of Junior Hazem, in comes the Cataclysm, blowing up the Brumaster!
Just clean. They catch him, see him for a minute, a second there, and just immediately go on him.
And that gives information as well. Winranger and Warlock both in that top jungle.
They know the Ringmaster and Beastmaster are both down towards bottom,
So it's a quick little move into tier 2.
Ah, very nice pick-off timing for them.
They're not over-committing to the fight either.
Phoenix is still farming, has travels, so feels ready to join, if need be, with that Shiva's as well.
That really has been so clean from the Andex.
They bring the right amount of heroes to the right place on the map to get the objectives they need.
Anisha will get her hasteroom bottled up down bottom.
But just eyes on Saxa.
To see what this man does with the Tiny.
The way they play the map is really impressive, using as much as possible while not getting too shameless to the point where you get picked off.
As I say that, you can see Chiro Junior trying to gold push, gets dusted though, he does!
The Roar, does he get it off? Nisha BKBs up! Chiro Junior Roar, caught by Nisha and no backup is coming!
Nice pick off for Nisha there.
That was right.
The haste rune helped him get that one, otherwise I think he may have gone to safety again, but Beast was able to keep chasing.
Punish that invoker for pushing this bottom lane for what feels like an eternity the past six minutes has been
Him me during and sending four spirits forward
We see him going for the disperse or build over on Beastmaster base
He's on to Saxa here with a primal split
Trying to chase into this tiny but the reactions are coming
Risky business for liquid to dive this as the Phoenix puts the Sunray out tiny half HP being burst down
Watson stabbed his ground and punches back into the brew, but he's cyclone for now.
The roar is coming off cooldown in 10 seconds. They could extend his fights.
Ava's timing out to 30.
Hurricane Pyke and holding the BKB.
He's right, he has Aegis for 20.
But it looks like with the ending of the Primal Split, Liquid gonna be happy.
Ace on the hunt.
Kill on Tiny by the Chasing Forward onto Watson.
There's DM, roar up, hunted down by Micae and Nisha.
Tornado not gonna buy enough time, but the Daffodil glass meatball has good damage.
The box will say they should keep him back while Watson is on the run, Mika chasing forward, Ace making a dive under the tier 2 tower, Watson healing back the fall, pops the BKB and thinks about the Requiem.
The Randex though, they've been shaken.
Beautiful there by Team Liquid, taking one kill and turning it into something more, and something more Yandex for once.
Falling into his trap of one by one feeding a little bit, using a lot of their resources and getting picked off.
That big swing, 2k gold going back towards Liquid.
Nisha's pick off was the catalyst to all of that though. Finding the Invoker was the starter to this.
It wasn't far away from missing the dust. Invoker chose the correct path, just wasn't fast enough.
But a good phase of play from Liquid. Right back in the game.
Invoker has a Lincoln's coming out but he's prepared for this.
for this, Beastmaster already having a defusal, still gonna be able to pick him off if he finds him.
I think that's the reason why I didn't go Silver Edge instead, just make sure they
is ready to always go for those pick-offs, even if SF went for a linkage.
And we've seen some players struggle with the sequence of items for Beastmaster,
Silver Edge, Disperser, the Refresher Orb, all things that you would love to have,
but you've got to figure out which order. Just a scouting cataclysm this time as they
They want to buy a little bit of time checking where everyone is so they get information that okay liquid are not making a move right now
And now we've got a game on our hands
Pretty much dead even
The Andex no longer having ages
Big timings are closing in for liquid as well
Building towards the Daedalus on the Windranger
She will have the DPS needed to go through the SF and at the same time that disperser on beasts
It's not a pick-off that you should scoff at either being able to dispel is insanely good here
And the speed of course as well.
Although they have been rattled, the Chichiro is getting exact in himself to being delivered.
Yeah, Jandex, I mean, by pure numbers there's still a head. 3,000 gold advantage still going their way.
We did see a four-staff being built on Tiny. I would love to see even more four-staffs just to keep people safe.
No nullifier yet.
Oh, Chichiro Jr.
That's the under vision, that's the dust that comes, Lincoln's pop, Nisha's in with the roar, forced after low ground though,
Chiro Junior's saving to push back up the high ground, dragged back in as Saks is being burnt down.
And Yannex, yet again, being initiated on by Liquid, the first mover here has the advantage,
a Cyclone of Jekiro is going to get a bonus kill, they look to take down Malady, DM dives in, but it's not a fight that Yannex can take.
Got some good damage being returned, but they have to get out losing too immediately
Don't want to fall into losing more and more heroes
I think that's the first time I've ever seen ringmaster ulti pushing someone from lower on to higher ground
That's a funny mechanic. It's shoved all the way back up. Yeah nice nice little tech there
I don't know if it was intentional either way. It was a good ulti coming out from boxy liquid
I'll flip the script a little bit here when Yandex get the jump when they're the ones initiating is look really good through
through the tiny, the phoenix, the invoker, but now Liquid have hit their stride, they're
the ones playing forward with the brew, with this base bastard, getting on top of people.
We'll see it again, the same catalyst as before, the invoker getting picked off, just slightly
too aggressive on the map, gets found by Beast, and that push, ringmaster bounces him up,
man, and then of course gets pulled down.
There's no fucking doubt about this, because I am the GOAT.
He's the GOAT!
He's the GOAT, what can you do, man?
A bouncy castle!
Yeah, push that guy all the way back up!
That's crazy stuff right there coming out.
Oh, cataclysm!
Oh!
Almost still...
That was so close.
Jeez!
Almost got some kills, but even more closely.
Almost got the tormentor.
Well, I told him he goes to Tofu, gets the shot.
Very close from Chirijunia.
I now quickly liquid spring into action,
keeping back down to their outpost.
Making sure they can control up this Roshan area
because he's a big fan's respawned.
Oh, hello! Goodbye!
That was close!
That was...
Flinching your butt cheeks there, Junior, to get away from it!
Yeah, that was extremely close. He used the Disperser, got the Lincoln Break, just barely didn't get the Primal Roar on him as well.
Gets to safety for now.
And Windranger changed her mind not going for the Daedalus Upgrades that she had before, but going for the Aged Encepter.
As the map is very open, there's a lot of space to cover.
This axe is extremely useful.
It also makes you pretty hard to kill even if there's MKB on SF, so he can go through the evasion, obviously against Brewmaster and Windranger, you kind of have to go for that, but that damage reduction is still good.
Roars they're on the shadow team now and Mickey opens up with a damage
Liquid they've done it. They've cracked Yandex here
Malady's on the run, Foxy gets in on top of him though with the impaled on arts, toss back from Zill with Mickey
But Sucks and they're back up. Shira Junior's on the run, full disengaged from Yandex as Liquid
They take control. Nice TP out, slow coming out from Yandex
Shira Junior is gonna stay safe in this fight as well and as they've got baited there trying to chase after this the second time
I think he expected him to split up. He expected him to go into the Roche already, but no, they came back down and he also dies I
Was gonna hype that that's the second time we see Nisha hiding behind a tree and making a big turn around the dis tournament
Before it was that massive moment in the Lina game. Yeah, we unloaded and just absolutely carried the fact that he stands there
Right so easy to keep on running and hiding because if he kept on running it would be easier for SF to see him
As he walked around the corner, he would get the vision on it
But yeah getting this B2B out as the tossback comes there was no ice path in time
So he gets to B2B little bit of a miscoordination and here hiding by this tree instead of running up and SF
Just gets eyes bigger than his mouth Gareth. Oh, are you so hungry and then surround it finished by Mickey
And from there on out it seems simple for liquid.
Ohhhh, liquid is back.
They're working on the new voice lines man from next year, this is amazing.
A voice line for actual liquid.
I mean they're a content factory aren't they?
Saxa in trouble on the right hand side.
No dust?
He did previously but he's already spent it.
So a blank TP, off he pops.
Yeah, the sentry just arrived on the courier, dust as well, but no way to reveal him in time.
I'll keep a liquid there.
The wind has definitely been knocked out of the Andex sails, though.
Ages for the Windranger, Beastmaster's picked up a gem.
I've got Roshan banner as well.
Let's see what I can get done with it.
Yeah, the Leipnir is done over on the invoker.
It's a bit more AUE, that Cataclysm getting more dangerous, harder to juke out.
That's a liquid I'm thinking about going through the gates, hunting for the invoker, this beast master.
Nisha has been so on point with his rotations.
And this is something that Tundra kind of struggled with.
BZM's invoker obviously notorious, has performed very well, but at this tournament it felt like even with the itemization with the...
Oh, Shadowfiend, he's walked into Windranger, just die in, he's just focussed, gone!
Now, the two of them hunting. Nisha hunting one way and Mika splitting up the other way.
They may not find the invoker, but they got the bigger kill in the SF.
But it feels like your bloke is so deceptive.
He wants to split push, he wants to keep farming.
If he gets picked off, so much...
so much momentum just gets knocked out of you.
Yeah, and he's under a ward on invoker right now.
They are trying to reach him in time.
Like his hunting.
Tornado doesn't land.
Deathing Blast does, but Nisha very speedy with a Disperser
When Ace gets there onto the Phoenix with a roar and damage, Nisha on a mega kill.
Well Ace, think about diving, but we'll turn back and get the objectives instead.
Just need to get the creeps over there and they can start laying into the tower as well.
And suddenly all the control on the map is just completely gone for Yandex.
On the back of multiple good moves from POS1 and POS2.
These pickups have been fantastic.
Got a series on our hands now. 7k lead for Liquid.
Liquid is back.
Working on the tower for now, just split pushing going on, Malady pushing whatever he can top, trying to elicit a reaction.
It's been a while since we've had one of these proper connections with the Saxa Tiny toss back.
He's spotted, Beast is coming too and he's gonna hold him here in place.
Yeah, will have wonder thrown in, feared, hypnotized, pushed back in towards the waiting arms of Nisha.
I mean, Malady...
You try, MTP, but the Tend...
Oh, no!
Unlucky!
Well, Boxing...
There's a bit of damage over time on him.
And Mika?
Also onto the targets?
Close to death, but Mika, looking for Saxa, deeper with Tofu dusting him, they've kept tabs on the Tiny.
Windranger sprinting forward.
Just gonna get into position here, but they're full staff and a glimmer cape.
That seems like Saxa's okay for now.
That is...
Like the fourth time or something, Saxa barely gets out of a dangerous situation this game.
He's been pulling out all his little jukes and tricks.
That shows how reliant Yandex are on his tiny Toss back.
Saxa doesn't get the correct initiation, the right target.
Yeah, very difficult.
Or if the combo timing isn't absolutely perfect, like we saw there on the Beastmaster, when they Toss them back.
Whereas it's been much easier here for Windranger with this Agatum Scepter.
Beastmaster and Brew with a blink to just jump in, give info, find targets and go for them.
Yeah, the BQB powerspike timings have worked out fantastic for Liquid.
Meanwhile, Chair Junior is working on the Hex next item, but there's already some defensive measures against it.
A on disc, over on the Brewmaster.
Gonna prevent himself from getting bursted.
Oh, Mickey now doing a tremendous amount of damage.
Daedalus amping all of that up as he heads into his next big item which looks
like a hurricane pike on the Windranger. Anisa is looking for anything he can
dive right now. He does have A's behind him as well. The one's gonna show up.
And Yandex have gone for playing very big map. Split pushing, spreading out
wide. They're playing very tight now. Knowing that Aegis is expiring soon
They're gonna smoke and look for a play
See if they can turn this around if they can keep the SF alive and hitting he does have crazy damage outputs
Liquid are gonna dip out from in the top area smart as the gank is coming. That's all about information now
Raging observable top jungle. It's in a good position here
But it's not gonna scout anything out because liquid have already moved
They're going behind all the gate play and I think they realized already look at liquid all of them staring towards the gate pinging it out
Oh, this could be a very very dangerous fight for Yandex.
Might get on Nisha first though.
He's farming that camp right under their noses, jumping from Saksa, tossing to the sky.
Icepath comes in, Nisha's gonna die, dead for a hundred seconds.
Liquid have to extricate themselves quickly.
Looks like they're holding high ground though.
Ranger wants to fight still.
Am I going Watson?
Malady's front lining.
Going in, scouting.
Phoenix ready to travel in.
Liquid in the end convinced himself not to go in, I mean fighting when you have 25,000 net worth that's gone
Dead would be a very difficult fight to take. Move back and hold the high ground near their ancients instead
Looks like they have a right read on liquid and then you just went and farmed the ancient camp
I think he was close towards a key item perhaps trying to finish something
Not sure
Either way, we've now got Refresher Orb up on DM, Double Damage Rune gonna be grabbed
by Watson.
That's timing to play on 50 seconds, no buyback available, he did spend out his gold as well
with no tier 2 tower.
But is it a high ground siege or what are we looking at, there's no towers.
Yeah, I think they want a toss out play.
I don't think they're gonna be able to force it, just 30 seconds remaining, it would
have to be fast about it.
There was no roast or banter no objectives to go for is a little awkward when you find a shop in this position
Now a big kill doesn't leave you into anything apart from regaining map space
Successive looking though. He might go and brew master. He's looking at a spot avalanche won't land
Trying to do the catapults alive that chip damage on the tower and push out that bottom lane with the SF
Some time and space to farm up
SF as the full Daedalus now with MKB
He is at the point where we can delete people three more levels and we have the race applies attack damage as well
And that's when it really gets out of hands. This is a pretty glass cannon build no satanic yet
So his defense is gonna be killing whatever comes his way before they kill him
That primarily means Saxa your job put people within range of the SF
Yeah, if they can get them there and changed on them
They do have a few good tools for it now with the hex on invoker ice path tiny avalanche
Plenty of spells. It's crazy how liquid got themselves back into this got that lead one kill on Nisha though
Just completely separates them from the momentum they built up
Basically bringing this game back down to level you got level two travels on the Burmaster
So he's ready to join even if they find someone far away from the creep wave
This is just getting ready for those smoke moves or for the pick offs from Beastmaster and Windranger
Well, Tommy is up, and Roshan is 45 seconds away, and looks like Yandex just gonna keep
up the top left corner though, allow Liquid to get that boxy shard.
Not a bad shard to have, bit of detection can be good against the Invoker as well.
So of course that glimmer cape tiny who's snuck away a lot of times.
Well, they're calling for the wisdom over on Phoenix.
wants to have the extra count on the supernova, or maybe even just get the range this game.
50-50 basically. Nothing in it.
It's hard to rely on the egg to survive when Beastmaster hits so fast and there's this Mjolnir windranger,
also all the attacking pre-dem quickly, Brewmaster with 110 attack speed talent,
so maybe he just goes for the range.
Especially during BKBs, because like you've got tornado, deathling blast, a requiem fear,
There are some tools here to try and contend with it, but yeah DM's stupid of a place that has to be good
Okay, he's curing up the agonim scepter
So then you basically know which level 25 town just gonna be
Agonim scepter to have some saving tool very good in reaction to the roar
I mean this could be a game where multiple heroes die in an egg though, so you're gonna be very cautious how you use it
Oh, yeah, absolutely do
The cheerer juniors gonna lead with Saksa. Let's move around South advice invoker
They want to toss back on the SF. They can get vision on anyone.
Of control here for Yandex as they draw the line to wrap around in behind.
Tofu had the right idea there, holding a staircase and looking to smoke break.
They have a server ward. They're going to put it down on the high ground.
Incredibly deep play here and they see Nisha first.
The best target they can go for but it's put in the box.
Can they save the Beastmaster? Ace has gone in to create chaos with the back,
but Nisha's dead and blown up.
Supernova's well placed as well on the Sunray, but it's not as he'll want it up.
That's enough! They've lost the SF! Mickey unloaded on him!
DM dies forward though, looking for Bobsy to continue!
Liquid lose 2, 3, and Yandex even though they dropped their SF.
I still hold the area.
Phew, that Phoenix impact.
Chiratunia, I still here looking ace, but he's got a breakaway on Brew.
Gonna stay safe for now I think, running away.
Difficult turn blue to keep chasing here.
The initial tossback play caught the hawk instead of the Beastmaster, so it looked like it was all going to backfire.
The box actually ended up saving him for a long time, but the right click of the SF was still strong enough.
But that put Watson in a situation where he just dies to Windranger.
Yeah, we can see it. Yeah, even if he's standing on the high ground, Windranger, look at the toss.
The hawk!
Yeah, and then the right click of the SF secures the kill in the end, but, yeah, Windranger's DPS is insane.
He did stay in Manfighter, though. Maybe he could have even ran south.
Yeah, maybe he thought the Sunray heal would be enough to stay alive.
Well, he lost vision, I think.
He was trying to trade with her because he has Lifesteal,
so trying to Lifesteal into the Wind Ranger with the Masked Madness,
but when Wind just pops into Invis, he couldn't fight anymore.
And I guess that is a situation which will change when you get Satanic.
But a fight that allows Liquid to hold onto the game.
No one really gaining traction.
Saksa, forgot one of the Bounty Roots, gives pink.
SF is dead, he's like,
Yo, grab my money!
Roche is making his way up towards his other home.
Wind is soon closing in on a very important talent.
Get on level 25, get to focus fire, kills advance.
Ooh!
Forming on the vision.
Oh, Ace jumps in!
The raw onto Kiro here.
I should lock Mali down.
To fight over the high ground ward while Nisha goes and blinks forward.
Finds the Saks are tiny lotus all above. There's no saving him though. Is that Jira, Jr?
Thinking about turning the last pushback activism coming
Saks is dropping his boxy gets snived out in bokeh being hunted by the primal brulings though
He's got the gemisha chasing forward supernova Sunray comes into play and he should force back as he loses all this mana pool
But liquid
They're forced to buy back out of tiny while Watson going mano and mano with his Shatterfee and Mickey nearly finishes the job
Ace comes in
They've killed Wasserov!
He didn't have any support nearby, no vision, so he can't fight.
He wins the manfight against Windranger, but not if you don't have detection.
And Saksa bought back for this.
Saksa shot it up as he walked into the wrong neck of the woods.
The ringmaster controls him after that dieback from the Tiny.
Oh, Yandex.
Yandex, they've floundered it entirely. Two minutes with no Tiny.
It's going to be an easy rush for the side of Team Liquid.
This is a Roche, Aegis, Cheese, Refresher, Shard, and look at their team, they're going to make so good use of it as well.
And how different the game is when Misha is the one getting the jumps.
Our Refresher over here has gave him two targets in a row to set this point up for them.
And they've a ballsy move though for the Chiro Junior to turn that, right?
Yeah, very ballsy, but also I can't help but feel like they need Jem, they need vision.
They need to play close to each other with some vision.
It's been liquid running around with this gem
Some high spirits now for liquid some giggles and chuckles and they should drop in a joke
I guess as he gets the tip from Mickey feeling good for the first time in this series
It's been a struggle game one and two were really really rough games for them game three. They're bringing it back
The morale picks up double banner warlock feeling happy with his inventory now as he holds on to refresh a shot as well
I get himself to complete it and liquid more than back in this game
There's still not a tool to spend for radiant our chair junior 9.2k gold 6k gold on the Phoenix
Some big timing is coming in as well
He's all alone up top though
He's been spotted dust
Windrangers coming
Look what in time can't catch up but look at base. He's running in with the gem
Well dust expiring, but you're right the gem is here TB forward.
Nisha tried to arrive, Golem dropped on this, invoked his head and liquid slay him.
Sheerah junior dead so quickly.
Yeah, level 2 travels on Beastmasters while coming in and joining these level 2 travels rush they have on Brewmaster and beasts.
Allow them to be so aggressive.
Does not matter how much gold you have if you get picked off alone.
Is it a high ground time?
Dare I say?
You definitely want to force a reaction here, they just, you picked off one of the most
important, if not the most important hero.
Maze?
Well he jumped in very aggressively but he's got the E on disc.
Stains alive to get off the primal split.
They're onto DM, all the shot on 2, on 3.
On 3, caught up in the stuns.
Two dead.
They have to buy back the Andex.
In there, Maze, they're being shredded by a liquid, diving from DM, trying to
catch up to a target.
The box is there though to buy time and save Mickey.
Forced to low ground, got out of danger.
Keeps the edges of his hands, the eardest pops on the ringmaster in the back while Mickey steps forward.
Another go, tofu, more golems, the fatal box coming in.
Watson tries to stand and deliver with the egg alongside.
They kill him off though as a shadow bean dies.
As the pass by Becky, could go back in through diving.
Damn dive scene with a tornado out of Tera Junior.
They're trying to poke a liquid here.
Sun's right coming but it's dodged out!
Look at their HP, they're so low!
They're still looking to turn Nisha as cool bang coming back!
His ulti is ready once we go on Chira!
I've not finished the buildings yet, the barracks are still alive!
Roshan's banners are up for liquid as Mikkei comes back in for another try!
They've tossed in the ringmaster but there's no follow through!
Mikkei's being burnt down on the left!
Aegis claimed up and wasn't buying back!
Ice bath, Mikkei caught in the meteors!
The box tries to save him but Box E will die for it!
Mickey falls!
Chira looks for as long as he could for any chance to jump, but he's out.
A toss into the sky! Comes down the bang!
Bi-backs were expanded, a lot of resources used and the damage was done.
Did not get the racks, but all these Bi-backs are really costly.
Now it's going to be on Yandex to make a play though.
90 seconds, no ringmaster.
Since the Bi-back is still in cooldown, they definitely know that he has no way to rejoin.
And Yandex feeling that that wind had changed direction.
Liquid starting to feel it here.
A few heroes dead, but there's nothing really on the map to be gained.
No, Roshan. No momentum.
You can see they don't want to go high ground with no buyback.
They know that Micahas is so easy for him to buyback and just pop a kill on any target.
They need to find Nisha somehow.
Now, Nisha has played this game insanely well, 6-2 and 12 on his Beastmaster.
The Dias scan into mid, there's the Malady. Ace makes that initial move forward, Tofu buys back, and Ace will BKB.
Eon Desk was on cooldown for 20 seconds, so we didn't feel comfy.
For some reaction, Clibac used.
Gonna look for a little bit more, at least get D-Words in the area.
There's one ward behind them that they didn't find though.
And the Andex trying to press what little advantages they have right now by shoving out multiple waves.
Like you said, they can't just go waltzing up to high ground, they've got to come back.
Big power spike for Tiny, getting level 25 and having the avalanche cooldown.
Most of his impact is gonna be spamming that stun, so he's queued up the octurane core, wants to get even lower cooldown.
I got all spam going.
I mean, it's basically a core, you know, in terms of the stunning at this point.
Radial deafening blast, pretty good to protect the egg.
Level 25 SF talent, you've been saying. Very, very strong to output damage.
52 minutes in.
Liquid have been the masters of the late game so far.
dragging games out and why not a late 80 minutes late game DD rune give that over
towards Windranger or just take it on boxy don't really want to stick around
that's like blitz blitz said right not gonna give up not gonna surrender don't
want to get out of this grand final with a whimper both teams are very
cautious right now they don't know where the other team is playing so
sticking safe go together with your friends set on staircases and hold
high grounds. In particular I think for Yandex right now after those defensive buybacks used
when they were getting Dove in the base. Right now it's only the Beastmaster, Wind and Brewmaster
who have their buybacks available. A moment of calm and clarity for both teams to consider
their next options. I mean I would expect Team Liquid to be the ones to start punching
out with the fact that they have these buyback advantages. Looks like that's what
What they're going to do with a smoke
The two heroes with boots of travel still farming
Playing back on that safe side of the map
The other three are playing forward
Yeah, ready to join any moments
And we even have Aion Disc over on Nisha
Wow
Really respecting the possibility of getting picked off
I said it earlier, it's a bursty Wallachia
Where people want to immediately get those pick-offs
And Aion Disc can give you that second life
I'm turning it over a little short
It's the poor man's ages, Gareth.
And on disc?
Or the rich man's ages, I guess you pay for it.
Yeah, you pay for it.
Not like the old days where you could buy some platemails and put an ages together for yourself.
Ah, good old days.
A liquid approaching this raging base.
High ground vision just to the right of this invoker.
As Chira Junior keeps prodding at that middle lane to keep the wave away.
I just not want to get to the point pick-ups close to your base are the most dangerous
Especially now that you're without buyback on site of Radiant if you get jumped dying next to your base
It's gonna spell buildings very quickly
Radiant Chapman on the Phoenix trying to
Have additional bit of gold into his pockets, but it's team liquid who have access to way more neutral camps lanes
Getting this advantage and building it from 10 to 14,000
And Nandex trying to get out on the map with the Invoker and the Tiny.
I'm sure Junius definitely has to keep his wits about him to not get jumped, so he's just
push away, then back to base.
Yeah, we see Saxa immediately start playing with some confidence as he has his buyback
off cooldown again.
So he's out there working on finishing his octaring core.
He also has gem, so a little bit of a warning system if he gets gone on.
Slowly this tier 2 tower is falling to an upheaval from the other side. This is the pushing power right there
Oh my god, look at all those little minor imps
The upheaval imps tier 2 that tower gone
Fourth Roshan comes back
arrives in that top pit 55 minutes in its nighttime. I
Think Tim liquid feel pretty confident in just playing the field right now because they have these amazing pick-off heroes
So going high ground would force the 5v5, but that's where there's a lot of potential for Yandex still their combination is really strong
If they just split up the map with the level 2 travels as well able to join anywhere
It's hard for Yandex
Liquid are pretty stacked
And this pretty much on everybody and saw windrangers considering one of her own
He's queued it up refresher a on this as well on two already soon to be three
They have Aion Disc on Box as well, so that's one more. They're about to have seven Aion Disc charges in next fight
It's gonna make it much more challenging here for that the one initiation tool against Saksa make his life much harder
This is also abusing the fact that they don't have heroes to buy nulfire on Radiance one weakness about carry SF
Oh, Tiny just jumped. There is Saksa being roared up under the wheel of wonder outside the roast pit. Nisha's come in
Ace will help out. You have to kill on Tiny
Tiny.
So I was just talking about heroes not buying null fire, Tiny was actually working on one.
He's 500 gold short of a null fire, probably happy you didn't buy it though, as he would
not have had buyback anymore.
Tofu's Warlock, a refresher orb with the Aghanim Scepter, Banner placed down at bottom.
Did we just drop some rocks on his tower?
We could, but at this point I think you can just hold it, wait for someone to come
up for the banner.
now it's the Ford spirits they're doing a good job not quite enough to kill it off
and now the M's are sent forward with a gale force making melody a little irritated
look we're just with this chip damage self push onto tier three
trying to force the annex to do something here we go now drop the golems and the primal split
meters jumps try and clear way for this banner and protection no commitment push
I'll lift up from the radion, protects the tier 3 tower for now, but I'll roll forward
on the Phoenix, Lincoln's came late, but they're protecting him still.
The box comes out, saving up Nisha, but Eonisk is popped as the tier 3 drops.
Barracks are exposed, just wait for the next round of spells.
I don't think they want to refresh for this, because then you're all in committed for
the racks, and would lose any continuous fights.
I'm just going to chill for now.
out their normal cooldowns coming back. This is a possible moment where Yandex could strike
out. As Roshan is also up, they would have to be fast if they want to get over there.
He's a Nikkei already in the pit. And look at Tofu, just sending a little bit
of imps using that Hevil. It's pretty annoying.
First point of contact could be Boxer here. He gets a blink and a full staff away.
Tofu keeping vision with high ground wards. And Roshan dying pretty swiftly. And he
all the goodies picked up by liquid all running would be running straight
through vision but the smoke breaking from ringmaster it's impossible to just
walk in like that I have to play it safe instead so ages on wind ranger got a big
frame to dive next time you also didn't buy the a on disc still so maybe
there's a chance for him to hold on to the gold maybe go for some other item
He queues up the satanic now as ages basically gives the defensive purpose of the a on disc
I liquid hitting their second wind at this point
Having those long games in that previous series getting a little bit tired bloodshot eyes, but now
25k to the good here in game three
I bet none of these players are strangers to a full day of daughter, you know, that's basically every day for most of them
Just get ready for it. You've got to keep focus though
Saksa trying to break free of Ace getting chased by the final split.
Wheel of Wanda zones them out, but supernova comes in.
Ninja trying to focus down the egg, but the capitalism keeps them out.
Yandex spend a bunch of spells to protect their tiny and liquid.
Still have this ability if they want to play forward, but they don't have vision.
They can't see where Yandex is sitting.
Got to be pretty happy getting the first egg forced.
Only one available now with the refresher.
So many tools, so many alties in the next fight.
I so hard to keep track of Lincoln's Aeon discs, all the alties, all the BKVs.
We can see it, and we know Liquid in a good spot here.
I mean, with seven refreshers, it can be cataclysmic more than just one way.
slowly though from liquid. Not gonna rush up high ground. Brewmaster pivots up the top
to push out lane. Even the threat of X, they come out with their base. Even the threat of
Ringmaster just catching someone. He has the refresher and hex. Of course the refresher
shard. Could hold someone in place for a long time. They will try and find this
Brewmaster. Maybe expecting someone to step behind Ace as they go the long way around.
Aeondas wrapping BKB refresher for this brew this time toss up into a Watson first
Aeondas use nullifier comes in but ace got off the BKB and he'll run back
Ensure the Junia doesn't want to keep going yeah with the gem you could see
Invoker easily juke and link to safety it's a minor win but if you can't make
something happen before they on this comes back you're just safely getting
farm it's, I'm speaking of, farming the tier 5 items.
A bit of scataclysm. See what's going.
Scataclysm.
I gotta figure out where liquid are hiding.
Stygian Desolator over on Nisha.
With spell amplification and debuff duration for a longer ulti duration.
He's a monster now.
They have a Stygian Desolator on Windranger as well, so...
The two of them are rarely going to go on the same target at the same time anyway.
It's not really that much lost value to overlap it.
And Beast wants to go on Phoenix, Wind wants to go on SF.
Yeah.
Shadowfiend.
What do you reckon?
Devanragalia?
He went with the Book of the Dead.
Oh.
Really tells you how much these players are valuing having a way to get vision
from far away.
Get some Scouts.
The Audacious Book of the Dead.
Audacious?
I think it's in Magic Damage, but more incoming damage.
I mean, 10% more damage taken is definitely a gambit here for Watson, but that damage increase as well.
Yeah.
It's a bold move, but...
The rescue's willing to take.
It does not surprise me, it's very Watson playstyle.
Minotaur horn for DM also, pretty cool.
I'm keeping this Phoenix protected.
Nice liquid again, approaching this bottom lane.
Ace has to fall in the sky, you could just drop in...
All of a sudden, he doesn't have E on this just yet though.
Chiro Junior is out on the map trying to gather up any additional farm he can find.
Ten thousand golds saved up on his invoker. He wants buyback and what? What's he saving for?
He still hasn't bought his thickness tier 5 item.
Ace? There's a lot of damage from Watson.
Making this brewmaster a little afraid in this frontal split form one brewing remaining is ace has to pop out
Stay by the box gets a bit of distance
The push is pretty fast range racks almost fall. Now gollum's do a good job for the ice path. That's dealt with them
They're just stacking Lincoln spheres and protecting SF. They know liquid want to jump him
He's gonna stay safe for now, but yeah slowly liquid are chipping away working towards any bit of racks
I can't believe by the way we are 63 minutes in not a single barracks has fallen yet. It's pretty crazy
That does! The amount of time to approach this bottom and mid lane on opposing sides
Hey, it's bizarre. I can't remember seeing a game where no rash was taken at 63 before. It's been very tight
It's been extremely close
See the the teams we do have three booker deads total the one on warlock
And then of course cheer junior and watson probably a two least likely to see it
on radiant but both of them going for it
like we're being very defensive and it's giving shades of that heroic series
they're respecting falling back respecting Yandex but it does get to a
point where you know the respect is short-lived it can be I mean late game
is so volatile and Dota it's really you could say oh it's 27,000 gold lead
but at this stage of the game it's all about the initiation how you
connect and that's why the teams are itemizing so much to mitigate that that's what the a on
discs and bkbs and refreshers are for and the buybacks yeah everyone has buyback it's all to
give you a second life or a second chance because it doesn't matter how far ahead you are if you
get stunned five times and just blown up and we get stuck in this cycle of waiting for next
row shan i'm in it in 40 seconds for the fifth big man to come back as the battle of the
the ages in that top river, denial of the Amplified Damage Rune and the Ford Spirit slain by the Necronomegon Archer.
Sorry, the Demonic Archer.
That's quite the grin on him as well.
As we see the Demonic Warrior and Archer running the other way, we have once again entered some remote warfare.
The proxy wars.
There's a smoke coming in.
This nullifier on Saksa could be key for their initiation.
Both teams want to get their hands dirty and ace.
his TP is straight into the middle of them,
they should roll to him up, nullified and died,
Watson stands tall on his high ground as well.
Recklin wound up, DM Eonus popped,
gets the Sunray Supernova off.
Mid-Cage trying to move forward,
Shaddafi turns, stands and delivers,
the nullifier out,
that battle between the S7 Windranger,
Recklin goes in and the roar is there.
Neisha comes in clutch and tries to deal with the egg.
The Sunray Supernova, it looks like it might just land low.
Nature is down!
But they lost a POS1 and POS2?
The Mikay winranger on the run from Saxa!
Heals back up the full!
Shackleshot comes out as well!
Tiny locked in place!
No S.F.
No Invoker!
No damage remaining for Yandex!
Slowly but surely
he's going to get taken down. That's a tanky tiny.
And now Molly!
The buyback from Ace!
Recovering the fight for Liquid!
Holding him in place.
Holy Windranger, making her way over, gonna get this killed quite easily.
TP forward, a kill off Malady. A double kill for Mikyang and Liquid.
Hey, hold on!
They spend an important buyback, but they did not use more than that,
and on top of it, four big kills that they can now force the buybacks on.
Already we have one buyback used, he's trying to get out on the map,
try and split push it with tornado, get the force spirits out there,
maybe pull the creep wave, just do not allow Liquid to approach your base.
Once they get to high ground, your buildings fall quickly.
There is a catapult on this wave as well.
Oh, gets to safety. Nice attempt by Boxy to blink in and hex.
It all starts with Ace dying so quickly, but he had that buyback!
The Phoenix couldn't get the egg onto the SF there as he was starting to lose the fight.
He was already in the first egg.
If he came out a little bit earlier, he could maybe have saved his life.
The Sunray aimed the wrong way to begin with, and then this dive back in...
Couldn't keep Watson alive.
Sucks up with the buyback as well back in live. So two buybacks used they're holding on to the SF 25 seconds on his respawn
On liquid on your doorstep banner plays tier three down back to the top right open again
The brewmaster going top with the brewlings trying to push multiple lanes and forcing the glyph out of yandex
10 seconds for Shad of fiends to respawn
They are gonna be able to respawn naturally with a mid racks does look like it's gonna fall
very very close
On this tiny still will be all end all of initiation for Yandex if he catches a glimpse of someone
Could be like now
That's liquid with a nice win. They forced a lot of buybacks
Now they're gonna back up welcoming Yandex to step out on the field come out get picked off again
And it will be game over immediately and finally a barracks falling
Metal mellying down capitalism used to scout again
Now one cataclysm might actually be enough for liquid to feel like they could take a fight
Knowing that he has cooldown on one, but with the refresher they have to respect the second one.
30 seconds left for Roshan to respawn.
Liquid going to play from his enemy's ancient area on the radiant side to play into multiple lanes at the same time.
What a testament to the endurance of these players. We have a small count coming in from Yandex taking the big risk moving out.
They know they need to make a play. They cannot allow Liquid to get their hands on another Rosh.
We need to jump on to Nisha, the catch on the Beastmaster.
He breaks free with the eon disc though, the faithful balls, the damage spilled.
Supernova's Sunderate picks one up to save the SF.
The focus on the end, not quite fast enough.
Trying to deal with it, but they come back out.
Flies PSF, blows up Nisha.
Requiem comes through and the windrangers so close to death.
One more touch into the jump.
There they go, make a down.
But Liquid has buybacks.
Walsson, he has stood his ground.
Nisha with a refresher.
They're in a lower on the SF.
They're dealing with Walsons, but there's another egg!
Can they kill it?
They're at high speed!
Oh my god, it's so close!
They've got him!
Bi-Back's available on Phoenix and SF, but Liquid!
Another showing here!
They take down Yandex!
Bi-Back available on SF as well.
Pru is dead for 100 seconds.
But still, this Wind Ranger and Beastmaster
ulti coming off in 10 seconds on Wind...
And the fall of House of Damage being spilled!
No proof of 19, Jakiro and Voker gone for over a minute.
Rosh is up, they're gonna stabilize now. A lot of chaos happening there and Team Liquid, they're just gonna take the reward.
So you see the buyback's vents. Liquid committed heavily but they're gonna get the reward of getting Rosh yet again.
And everything comes down to the wire. It's so close! This Windranger and SF matchups are sick. How much damage they did to each other?
That's crazy. It's crazy to see there's a battle. It could go either way
We saw some beautiful saves by DM as well with his ulti the second ulti
Just not able to save if he could get that positioning of the egg up to a high ground first and then pull it
But it's difficult to do when you're core Phoenix, and you don't have a ethalence
That's why we see support Phoenix a lot of times ethalens will cast range for ulti
And now no buybacks on anyone but Warlock. Everybody's on cooldown for a long time
time. Tofu's feeling good. He's like, I got Travels Level 2 guys, I can TP in, fight
again. He's tough. Onto Meke. I have Broken Hand with a turn on the DM with a stun to
control the Phoenix Dead for two minutes now and Watson is in trouble too. Liquid.
Looking so good here in Game 3. Invoker's coming off though. This is a late game Invoker.
as he has all the tools they have no supernova they have no jacquero the
control is lacking Roshan back a toss back on tow through the wall looks safe
by the box up cheer a junior Watson trying to hold defend their face as
Mickey comes in again golems dropped Watson he's out in the open the fatal
bombs come in a ton of damage being spread forces him to bkb then your
creeps are secured by now, but they need more. They have to play on the Phoenix
death. 80 seconds, no DM, tier 4 is open here, the broolings go to work, so does
Mickey. Toss up, trying to get in there with socks up, but unable to get on a
target. Can't last your honor's malady. He'll move forward and cast his spells out.
Brewmaster second will be available. A jumps off to the Sennvoker, golems
off to Tera Junior. Roar catches tiny on the right-hand side as well.
Walson trying to stand and deliver, but Mikkei's too strong.
A double kill, picks up Malady.
Walson can't do it all on his own.
Sheeran and Walson against the world as liquid.
Some strike, yes, kills Mikkei, the ones, but it's got the ages to respawn.
The building is falling, the folks in it.
A throw is dropping quickly. Sheeran and Walson trying to do what they can.
Catch them all.
The cliff buys a little bit of time.
But surely, there's just a lazy inevitable.
Sheerah Jr. getting chipped away by Mika's Windranger, another jump onto the SF, plenty of controls to bring him down!
Watson gone! Throw and expose the liquid I've done!
What it takes to take Game 3!
Holy, they have to fight for that game though. That was... look at the voice.
Smiles all across, buddy. Yeah, look at the hands on the face like...
God, this is a long day at the office for the voice.
72 minutes seems to be their number as they drag another game all the way very late.
Yeah, crazy how that fight for it.
Incredible as we head back to the panel.
It's exactly the peak timing team Liquid is playing for minute 72 now in all seriousness.
This was Liquid being back, that's their own words of course during that game.
This was the first game of this best of five series where Liquid didn't
straight up lose already around minute 20. I feel like this is actually the game
to where their game plan came to fruition.
Yeah, Liquid making just a little mini adjustments going into game three, right?
Gandets getting the Shadow Fiend, they get the Brewmaster and the Offlane, and like
surely there's a couple deaths across from Liquid, but like it wasn't as if
they'd lost the entire early game life and they have a couple of games, right?
It's not like they had a grip on the game, and Mickey ending the game in 19, 3, and 11.
I would say this Windranger, all the Shadow Fiend was picked after seeing the Windranger,
But Mickey had Watson's number for all of these clutch moments.
It felt like, you know, with the Agans pick up,
he was just doing so much work on the Windranger.
Yeah, the 1v1 late game was just not favoring SF at all.
You can see why people are picking this against the hero.
It's one of the few things.
Like, I guess Ursa is the other one that can 1v1 and SF.
There's not much in Dota that can do it.
And I guess the problem with drafting against Team Liquid
and, you know, having this Windranger as a counter
is that it's also Mickey Windring.
You have a guy that is playing the hero
when it's not meta, playing it,
when all of a sudden it's coming out as this S tier counter.
You gotta be careful picking SF now
unless the wind is out.
I also have to be careful going 60 more minutes
to get to the liquid.
Maybe start going for the Midas.
You start going for some techies,
start delaying the game.
Just kind of what she was saying was like,
they got past the 30 minute kind of hump in this game
and it's still kind of bad.
I think Yandex was looking really good at the start of the game and was a bit worried for Team Liquid,
but they kind of found themselves how to take the fights.
I think a lot of it, to me, was the blue master.
His ability to kind of control the backline in the fights.
And I mean, DM's, Phoenix, the eggs were going off with the majority of the game,
but I think at some point there was too much damage that the team would die.
Like, the Shadowfiend would die even with the egg placed on top of them.
It would stun the heroes post to the Shadowfiend, but it didn't really matter.
I think it was actually this fight. This was the moment for me to Yandex.
I was like, there's so many fights, maybe it's not this clip, but either way, there wasn't an egg in this position where DM could have maybe saved the Shadowfiend, but he wasn't able to, and right now, it's like, this is the moment for me, like, Yandex, you've done it, you're forced to buy back, if you save the Shadowfiend here, you're gonna probably clutch up the fight.
In that one, it was actually, I think it was the Beastmaster Roar, so he roars the SF and it pushes the Phoenix away, so then you can't get the egg, which was really cool, I don't know if it was intentional, but...
Let's assume it is intentional, but the point is, if he saves Shadowfiend here, the fight is going to be very, very different.
So, yeah, unfortunate for Yandex that he wasn't really able to connect there, because they made the move.
Saxo thinking about Octorine and then going away, so I can connect Grief from my Octorine and he nullified.
He buys Nullified, and Nullified then gives life to the fact that Liquid are all buy on A on this.
So Saxo alone is able to give a second win to Yandex's pick off potential, knowing that he has the gold to fix some of the problems.
To be honest, I think that's what makes this game so impressive from the side of Liquid is that
there were so many things on the side of Yandex that they had to be careful about.
There was three Lincoln Spheres, there was a Lotus Orb, there's Satanic from SF,
there's the SF Ulti, there's the Phoenix Save, like there's the Tossbacks, there's all of these
dangers in a fight and still like Nisha I feel like in the last 30 minutes of gameplay here
He was hitting Roars on units that had no lankins, that were not Lotus, and it was like, you know, on the asset.
In this situation, yes, the Egg saves, because there's like five different saves that he has to deal with,
but then because Boxy is alive, he forces to the high ground, and then he helps kill the Egg.
Yeah, so if Boxy doesn't get that additional right click or two on the Egg, it's gonna pop once again, and then it's a whole new story.
The game's over, like...
What happens, right? So, yeah, Boxy clutching up with that final right click,
like Nisha, obviously knowing he needs to kill it.
It's just an incredible game.
I just want to shout out Nisha Zadambilb.
I think, obviously we can just say the basic,
oh, it's good to end this game
because he's getting a jump,
but I think his mentality in every fight
was he kind of used the end disc as,
if I'm BKB and I 2.5 seconds hit the egg,
and they can't do anything to me
because even though I don't do damage,
he does egg damage.
So like every single time he would pop his BKB,
he would press the inner beast
and he would just kind of kill the egg for 100 to zero.
And I just thought that that was like a cool concept in the game.
Also the disperser, he bought a lot of people to go Manta in that situation for the illusions,
but he's going that because it's even more taxi than Manta, I believe.
So it's just another way to kill the egg.
But this guy, this guy in the screen, I mean, what a insane performance from him.
I know it was a long time ago, but early in the game, around the 20 to 30 minute mark,
it was him that was hitting the clutch plays.
There was the using the ringmaster alt knockback to knock somebody up a high ground.
I think it was Soxa who just got saved.
Like that pulling that sort of stuff off is unbelievable.
And Boxing is one of the few players in the world that can make a ringmaster look like
that.
Yes.
Well, we're going to go back in time a little bit more even first of all, though,
because Mr. Maroons, we talk about those a lot and they're very important.
Yes.
72-minute games. They are important. Just like the one that's 14 minutes of stuff. I just want to say
Malady on the jikiro what an absolute monster, right? Like look at him. He goes to the wisdom and to be fair
He went for the 21 minute wisdom the 28 minute wisdom 35 minute wisdom
He's wise the 42 minute wisdom has to take a second to do the master
But you know the point is Malady on jikiro. He's super aggressive. He knows exactly what he wants to do
He's forcing out a split like these are the things that you want your pod five to do because in the big games like this
You'll always forget about kind of the post five like what war did he play?
What century did he place? What spell did he take very important ones?
Yeah, I'm sure that's 14 minutes but throughout the rest of the game like he's buying BKB's and blinks
He's doing his work, but I gotta say I just I think jacquero and melody that is just a combination that is just so scary
Yeah, and Jenkins you wanted that fight again. Is that the same fight? Did you mention? Yeah?
It was can we believe that juicy fight because that was super nice. I mean this was pretty much the
the comeback, because once again I don't know if anybody remembers, but in the first 30 minutes of the game
this was Yandex's game. So it was actually on Bo-Bo-Kur where he pushes to the high ground, goes to the low ground,
and then Boxy uses the ring ult to bounce him back onto the high ground.
I never even conceived of using that as a mechanic. It always felt like one of those, like,
it just looks cool, but never really has any effect, but in that case it did have a lot of effect,
and then they continue chasing, they smell blood in the water,
and they get a bunch of follow-up kills because they have great heroes for chasing.
In Boxie's own words, he's the goat.
He said it two games at a time.
How many times do you think he said goat in that?
Oh, I think he said a lot.
At least five.
What is that?
Okay, before we continue on looking at moments in that game,
I will first say that the players have the option in between a game three and four of the grand finals
to take a little bit of an extra break in case they need, you know, food, water, extra, you never know.
So we have extra time to talk about the games and in this case 72 minute game
Definitely a long time and a lot to talk about but before we continue talking about this game
Tiny bit of comment on the get on the voice comes because we all know that team liquid has definitely made it pretty difficult for
Themselves in terms of all these long games. They've had today and fatigue is something we sometimes bring up in these cages with liquid
Especially since they've wasted themselves
Obviously that is a thing
I'm a voice coms it sounds a little bit like there you know you get when you're super tired you get like a little bit drunk vibes
Yeah, they're drunk. Yeah, they're drunk and go to right now. They're high on life. They're having a good time
It's working out. I mean there's not a flame but the fact that you hear like box you go
I'm the goat.
That's his job.
I don't think you're a fox.
I think right now you're not.
The game before it was like, I'm the goat.
Oh, I'm dead.
Just to put a little bit of context on this game as well,
for Liquid, they were 13 minutes away
from actually having the longest game
in a best of five as well, in Dota history.
But again, it's 13 minutes.
You'd think it's quite a long time,
but in the way this game was being played out
with the Phoenix eggs, showing that
There was a world but this could have got quite close to that record. Yeah, and I mean not to there's a lot of different records
It could possibly be said but considering their three games they played already this game actually two games left
It could be the longest
Finals day for a team. Yes ever ever. That's crazy
That's that's historic and like the funniest possible torture liquid way
I mean, it's like, I mean, it's
like, I mean, it's like, it's
like, especially if you consider
that they have a wish or like.
They've not been home for two
and a half months. You know, it's
been the mat. The biggest
grind. I feel like the team
liquid is done in a long time.
I mean, all that matters if
they do win, you know who
they're going to shout out.
They're going to shout their
sponsors. They're going to
hype them up. Liquid
management right now is
already kind of going, Oh,
we better win this one will
make certain sponsors very
happy. You know, I saw a
tweet because there's like the
clip of them after the
This made me so happy.
He like reposted the tweet.
Clip it! Clip it!
That makes it zero to the next year deal.
Like look what our players did in this historic tournament.
Tiada question.
Are you a jikiro expert?
Would you consider if you're jikiro?
I dabble in the answer.
Okay, so does the innate not reduce the damage of fairy fires?
I believe.
Because Malady's, every time I see him jikiro,
he buys like three fairy fires or four.
Isn't it just branches or crappy now?
Yeah.
Is that why?
Yeah.
I think that might, I only see him do it specifically on jikiro.
I will assume it's just because his damage is lower
and he also wants to amp up the double, double hit.
You're getting more value.
I cannot answer your question.
I have not thought about that.
But all I know is fairy fires are in the meta.
Whiteman always does the double fairy plus double branch.
And I feel like if you're jikiro and you're punching, you have two hits.
It makes sense.
I just thought on like the wisdom plate, he did it at four.
He did it at three.
He did it at one, but he put it at four.
But he's like taking a lot, so.
Every jikiro game he's going like.
Yeah, that's, it's jikiro.
That's why I wasn't sure if it was like the, they don't get reduced by an eight.
Was it Chiro Jr. that said that he thinks it's bad, but he's just letting him cook?
Yeah, it could be. I also know that it was a cell that said, you know,
whenever we can get our hands on Tequiro, we're in a good position.
This game round, to be honest, they were in a good position for a long time in this game.
So definitely still working out that Tequiro.
Tequiro was first pick, which was surprising, because normally it's a Shadow Fiend
that you see in a first pick if it's let through, which it was this time around.
But we're going to see a clip where the Shadowfiend was not having a great time to do.
Yeah, we're talking about Fatigue for Liquid, but I think Watson showed a little bit of fatigue in this game with some of his positioning.
Again, we already praised Mickey on his way that he identified the fight, but Watson, in another critical moment of the game,
Obrich stands to himself, goes for the Beastmaster, and in the length of this game, you can easily forget about these moves,
but I feel like Shadowfiend had a couple of deaths that weren't characteristic to the Grand Finals of the Andromedaic so far.
We've already mentioned DM, but a couple moments of weakness,
but that is why Liquid, I think, they're so brutal with their skirmishing,
the in, the out, the poking, utilising the Windranger ring.
Like all their heroes, that alone is like, you're meant,
you're going to make a mistake against them at some point.
I like that you put it that way of like an overextension,
because it truly was.
It's just that it's like easy to overextend in that scenario
because Nisha just did something really cool and he trusted his team
and his team was in position.
But like if Watson is to go back and look at this replay in that exact moment, he will say,
I overchased, like I should, it feels so bad, it feels so terrible to give up a 10% HP Beastmaster kill there,
especially considering the situation, but that is the correct play to just not chase after that moment.
And then, you know, if it happened and he killed the Beastmaster in that chase,
then it's like a completely different thing, because then he doesn't get baited and he gets to walk backwards with his team.
There's like so many small things that happen when you chase.
I don't know. It's like such a basic concept for pro players. It's like chasing's bad. Don't chase.
Astinia usually yell at me. Every single scrimmage is like chasing's bad. I'm not allowed to chase.
And you show replays. I figured what team it was at the time. There's some team who'd always,
maybe it was Falcons. They'd watch their team fight. And every single team fight,
they like always walk backwards. Even when they're winning the fight, they like walk enough
forward to cast spells and they walk backwards to make you fight into them. And I think
I think the mentality is just so consistent
that when people don't do it, it looks so bad.
Because we're so used to all the chases,
like, oh, you know, they're never going to over chase.
So it's like when we see this one mistake from Watson,
it's so easy for us to be like, pfft.
Yeah, I mean, that's true, it was a big bait, though.
There was like a giant worm on the hook that he went for.
The hook of Nisha?
Yeah, the hook of Nisha, exactly.
It's like SpongeBob when they see the hooks
and they go on it for fun.
You know the SpongeBob movie, right?
You know SpongeBob?
Yeah, I do.
Isn't it the one where he does the thing
the water.
Did you Hefner?
Yeah, he gets it.
Yeah, that's all I know.
I don't think the Shadowfeet conversation is done just yet because we saw Windranger picked
up before the Shadowfeet and this is because it is considered to be one of the few counters
that the hero has.
And pretty much on the screen you see why there is an Aghanim on Mikkei and that alone
gives him enough kiting potential to make sure that Watson, whenever you want to
take a fight you have to be with your team and that's about it. Any point
lost in by himself you're gonna die. I think the biggest thing it's two things.
So there's the one fight in the top jungle where he like goes solo on the
shadow fiend, he didn't win for two seconds and he goes down to like 20% health
and then he clicks it for the invas, kills him. And the other component of
aggs is it gives you physical damage reduction. So it's like even if he
has the true set even if he also has an MKB you need both of those things
there's still a chance that he'll fight you and the cool thing I think
Mickey went which not many wins really go was a satanic which actually let him stay in this like 1v1
We're both carries right click each other and fought yeah, I think like there was two or three fights in the late game
We're Watson tested it. He's like
Surely I can kill him now
You're supposed to just any right-click hero you win the fight. Yeah one view on his shot of him
Yeah, but now win runner now with the eggs. No, it will definitely have some repercussions
I think in the game that we're going to see after this one. Another thing that will maybe
have repercussions. We saw Brewmaster in action on the side of Ace and we've definitely been a
little critical of Ace in his hero pool because it's fairly easily countered sometimes by a certain
different bear. But this bear made it through and this bear showed up. Yeah he played this hero
very well. He did exactly what he needed to do in the fights which a lot of the times was to
blink in
wait for the eon disc to proc press the bkb and then
Stay in the panda form and then eventually turn into the broolings and like essentially
He was just soaking and tanking for the for his team
So they could like get good positioning jump the right heroes then eventually use the ult
And I love the boots of travel too because sometimes there are these games where the only play option for the enemy team is to
that you're not at the flight, you know, and all you need to do in that scenario is go for this like weird
Expensive item that lets you get there to anybody on your team quicker than a normal TP and he did it and like
From that moment where he got the bots onward. It was all liquid-favored
Yeah, I think liquid just found a good here for ace to play like when we're talking about the whole idea of
Ursus and this stuff like how does ace kind of fix some of the laning stuff?
the first brewmaster feels like that hero right? You find the back line, you give information
for Micae and Nisha to initiate, you praise Beastmaster, but if it wasn't for the brewmaster
finding these things. Yeah that's true. Somebody needs to be the point of contact. Ace is so
good at doing that. Yeah and on the brewmaster you were describing, he had like two, three,
four different ways to make sure that he gives information and isn't just dead. This
is not a, I'm in, dead, good luck boys, you know, this is like I can actually outskill
you with how I'm itemized and how I've played and it was refreshing to see Ace on
the brewmaster and give so much life to this very skirmish heavy line up from there.
Was he also able to give life to boxy in there for give boxy more freedom as we
said and we heard Saksa say that that is a very big strength of liquid and boxy.
Anyone want to jump on that one guys or? I think so I mean if you're playing
any like backline caster support whether it's ringmaster, Skyrathmage,
Rubik you want somebody to soak the attention of the enemy team like
Ringmaster has really low cooldown spells so you want to get multiple rounds of those off and if
you're a high-skill player like Boxie that's like Aiden said this during Dream League that he thinks
the tricorps of Liquid, the original like liquid players, they're the type of players that maybe
it's a little hard for them to have good formation in teamfights because the tricorps will
play to their own personal limits which means a lot of the time if you go in with them
Like you you will die because like they're playing to their hero strengths and they will like flawlessly execute
But you can't have that formation
So I think having somebody like ace who can go in and be like here's all of this information make the best decision possible
Sure, it's really high skill, but like you can do it and boxy says okay. I'll do it
So I think it helps tremendously. They also boxed the goat the goat. I don't know if you need to help
Oh, there's the girl.
He said it one time very excitedly.
He did.
I also think that there's going to be a lot of voice lines
that Team Liquid can use for any possible potential voice
packs that are coming out, as we have heard a lot of cool voice
lines from the teams.
I've got one very important question,
and it's something that stands out to me when the FD72
winning games.
And Gunnar's question for you,
because we saw a clip, one of the clips.
I forgot where it was, but it was super late.
And we saw both teams, with the smoke, smoking up,
they went to the diet triangle.
And this was like 60 minutes, I think, or maybe 65.
How do teams, both of them, still have smokes at that time?
Because they're a super long cooldown.
And no one's like, oh, let's save that smoke for 65 minutes.
That makes no sense.
A lot of the time, late game, basically, the whole game
revolves around Roshan at that point.
Because you want the Aegis and the Banner.
the two real things from Roche. So you either smoke to fight Roche or you save your smoke.
So it's kind of like you only use one smoke every eight minutes and then the only time
that there would be a potential other smoke was like the downtime between Aegis and the
next Roche. So there's like a three minute window there but I think it's mostly, surprisingly
there's less moves late game because every move matters so much that you don't want
to do like this one bad move because you just lose.
There's stalemates that happen.
But there's also like seven boots to travel to in that game, right?
So there's a world where one guy who doesn't need to be smoked, he can just walk in and
say, oh, just one guy.
He goes to fog for two seconds.
Now suddenly the teams in the fight, right?
So as the late of the game progresses, you're looking at the value of shadow blades and
boots of two and shoving waves constantly.
So you're playing more on the fog.
You have gems, you're rewarding so you can play on the trust of, have we walked
through this area recently?
Can we have the confidence there's no war here?
So there's a lot of layers to it.
But yeah, it's got to be careful.
Don't waste your smokes.
box he did miss click one when he got jumped he smoked dust at the top fight
when BM saved and then one egg but then boxy also could put the last click to
kill the eggs he was like I don't need the smoke some smoking you sending you
to a game for the problem with smoke dust is that you can have the smoke in
the backpack now so yes I don't want to go tell him that you even had it can
you even hockey the backpack so why would it be in the inventory why it
old habits if it is it is old habits yeah that's true I actually saw first in a
Herald replay that somebody smoked from the backpack and I'll say in my defense
it was right after they added that you're like how do you do that I was this
guy's hacking but it's it's truly it's one of the most convenient changes what
is the next item you can use from back backwards century words dust would be
nice that's okay then you're gonna potentially be able to dust dust in
Backpack would be so bad for just like in this or shot. I think it I
Hate the in this guys. I guess you can make the same argument for centuries like if you could put some
Crazy idea okay every item
But it's like half duration of the active
So if you put in your backpack you're giving yourself an additional slot
But you know like the four stuff alone in you half the distance a BKD will have half the duration
So you're kind of you're half things effectiveness because it's in your backpack
Glimmering only for half the duration. I think we'll have to workshop that one. That's a workshop right there
We're not like a passive like but now that's to the game. I'm so sorry guys that we're gonna workshop that okay
We're gonna think of this
I'm sure the teams also have a lot to think about because yes team liquid one
But for the first like 20 to 25 minutes
It was still Yandex that was in the driver's seat of that third game of this series
So a lot to think about a lot to adapt potentially for an upcoming game four of this best of five ground finals for PGA Valakia season 7
I need mana, I can put in cheese.
Can we fight, sir?
I can die.
I need two seconds of cheese.
I'm in here.
I'm coming to you.
They have 5 I guess
I'm going for base, I'm coming, I don't have travels, but I'm running
He's gonna blink him, blink from this, yeah?
No, no, no, no, I'm running
I'm buying travels too
You want me to blink him?
Can we push?
I think it's good
Hack?
We need to kill the egg
Okay, I'm running
Can you get it?
Take that
I love that
Careful by the way
They only have by-back on the guys that are not stacking with us
SF
SF, that's it
I'm feeling slow
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Today we'll be playing a very simple game, we're going to describe some heroes with
some very long descriptions, you have to say who it is, alright?
Easy.
That's easy.
There's like five heroes in Dota, the hero, Warlock, SF.
All right, number one, her greatest gift is the ecstasy of agony.
She walks the thin edge where a whisper of pleasure becomes a torrent of death.
What hero could this be?
That's Kvap.
Kvap.
Win or win?
Oh, thank God.
I really thought you didn't know.
Yes, it's Queen of Pain.
Why did you know that so quickly?
Because only she says, like, agony in her voice lines.
Ecstasy.
Oh, no, that's not all right.
Just now whispered on pleasure.
Oh, yeah, the whisper of pleasure.
That's what your eye went to first, huh?
Have you had a lot of whispers of pleasure
in your life, Waimon?
No.
No, I'm so sorry.
Let's move on then.
Okay, here we go.
A librarian of the dark arts,
whose greatest trick is making the heavens fall,
only to find that the demon within is his only friend.
Who is probably this?
Oracle?
You need to take a deep breath and really take a breath.
He's got a book and a demon.
Bro, with a warlock.
A shadow demon?
OK, really deep breath.
I want you to meditate here.
Take a few seconds.
OK, this has to be warlock.
Did I play the hero?
Yeah, but just think.
No.
Oh, wait.
Is that the warlock?
Yes, it is the warlock.
Oracle, brother.
How did we go to Oracle first Oracle doesn't even have a book. Let's move on a writer bathed in black mist
Always in the thick of battle. He's the only man who can stand at the gates of death and find himself more alive for the visiting
Hmm, you go
This is hard it's not that hard, but
under
Underlord, is that your final answer? No, it's not it's not it should not be
This is genuinely probably the easiest one, but I'm not trying to hold it. How is that easy? All right
Damn it why I'm on all right
Okay, okay, let's
These gentlemen, no, it's not final answer. I'm okay. I'm not gonna tell you what it is
He's about to die and then he heals himself.
All right there.
Black Mist.
Yeah.
I don't know how to fuck this.
Unfortunately, it is Abaddon, who else would it be?
Two out of three ain't too bad, congratulations.
Only three.
Yeah.
You want more?
No, we're done.
Thank you so much.
Welcome back you are watching the Grand Finals here for P.J. O'Lachia season 7 and we are
heading to game number 4 very soon. That's right. Yonex is still on match point. They're
2-1 for Liquid right now. We're going to find out if Yonex can take the championship
or if Team Liquid will have a good chance of a reverse sweep. They will look to take
down a game number two. Well, their game number two, that is game number four in
total. Minute 72, of course, they're playing for late game. No, I want to talk
about how liquid's gonna address their early game because all three games so
far have been similar for those first 20 minutes. We often talk jankers about
the flowchart about how teams should be playing like at the rose, get the
torment or you know, doing all that. Yandex is doing that every single game
and they get away with it. Sheaver, I would like to completely ignore your
question and raise my own point which is that's really good I believe it better
be good I believe what do you believe that I believe what do you believe this
is very confusing to be in this I understand but do you believe what you
must have said I understand how Americans feel do you believe it though
American politicians especially you're focusing the important stuff I believe
that team Yandex picked for fun in that game.
Okay.
Okay guys, get him off the panel.
Let me explain.
CJ, aka Chira Jr., aka soon to be Chira Sr., said in an interview,
Oh guys, I won this series with my favorite hero Invoker.
He just wanted to be Invoker and then they asked,
Okay, DM, what do you want to play?
He just wanted to be Phoenix.
Do you think Watson wanted to be Shadowfiend into the Windranger?
I don't think Watson wanted to play the best carry of the patch.
I genuinely don't think Watson would use a shit about anything if I was completely honest with you here.
Just to update you, by the way, I don't think Twitch Chat agrees with you.
I promise you I'm not currently in Twitch Chat, but yeah.
Back to you, Jeff.
So back to Sheever's question.
My question, how is Liquid going to disrupt the flowchart of Gandex?
You want to press it?
Well, Sheever, to answer your question.
Thank you, Gunner.
I think that the Windrunner is going to be a very important pick in this game number four.
I think it'll either be banned or picked probably by the teams that get first pick.
I think it might be first pick overall with the Shadowman ban.
Will Shadowfear still be let through then?
Yeah, I think basically you ban obviously the Largo, the Tree, blah, blah, blah.
But ban Shadowman, take wind.
I think that's a success for either of these two teams.
I agree. Both teams have exceptional Windranger players.
And I cannot imagine a better test for the matchup
than that game that we just watched.
We saw like three times that the two heroes
just man fought each other.
And they were all like kind of different situations
where you could see like the wind killing SF
because of the Invis, the wind killing the SF
because of the Evasion, the wind killing the SF purely
because of the damage reduction
that you've been mentioning, Gunnar.
Like all of these things make it such a damn good
And I feel like the way that you want to play SF is that you can win these carry matchups like him
Like no hero can go toe-to-toe with him
Except for this one
So just get it out or make sure that you're the one that's getting it if SF is in the pool
That's a laugh of we're gonna play a third Phoenix game, but
That was a cheeky, you know what run it back. Why not imagine whipping it out like not what you're thinking Gunner
Yeah
This little into a tournament you have DM on your team and only now are you making the off-lane Phoenix to be such a menace
Where it you know if it would early if it were early are all in the tournament
We would say like oh, they're picking it so if you have to ban it and they get this draft advantage
They saved us until the best of five grand final. That's a giga Chad move. I don't think they
intentionally
No, I agree
I agree. It's very convenient, but the thing is they're playing so well and they have so much going for them that they can afford to have this happen
We also have to remember that the idea of like the adaptations when you get to Buster 5
Liquid they've shown us that they're really thinking about like ace's hero pool, how to kind of get it through the draft without needing to ban certain heroes and other stuff
Same thing things then for DM to some degree. It's like how can you break liquid through the hero pool that we are yet to see at this event?
He's played vipers and death prophets and enigmas and you know, insert
Phoenix as well. Yeah, but he played all these heroes
But we've only seen just one bleed into this finals
What happens in this game if you get to see another one or is he to go back to the tried and tested this
and
Ben is so
complicated
Because there's shatter me and wind SF if you ban shadow fiend or shatter them in wind
There's also bat. So if you banned like shadow demon wind there
Then they get Shadowfiend first pick with no wind results.
If you ban the Shadowfiend, then they take the Bat.
If you ban the Bat, then everything is just complicated.
So surely they could take Windranger here then?
Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
I think Liquid takes the Windranger.
I think you take Wind, and then this leaves SF.
And no, Yannix will not take it.
And I don't think...
They'll take Shadow Shulman.
Yeah, maybe Shadow Shulman, maybe Phoenix.
Like, any of the doesn't reveal much position four or position five.
And any of the very strong supports because so many supports are banned out in this opening ban phase.
And I like it a lot, right? When you talk about flooding the hero pool, something that you hear from coaches,
why not ban out the foundational heroes that make those heroes look good, right?
Shiver?
First game that Underlord's not the first phase ban.
They're not going to first pick Underlord.
Underlord? No way.
That'd be crazy. That'd be a trap.
I'm trying to think basically the way I'm trying to think there's any like good dispells for the wind shackle
I think they maybe take the ringmaster into the shadow shaman like sure shaman stuns are good, but
ringmaster is just
Also a very strong hero and I think having the box as a pure one-to-one winner was like counter is really good
That's a six in all record on Mickey's win ranger by the way. That's crazy. They've had some very good records
Okay, that makes sense. That's the other direction where just
In the lane it's really knowing for when to kind of deal with you. You can go the Crimson Guard very nice
also the ag scales in the same exact way where you have a
100% save on the guy who gets shackled so as long as it's not the center is getting gone on you'll save the guy
That's a hundred percent winner winner on the DM center. So who wins? They both do. That's a tie
Can both teams win?
Yes, they're making peace three, you know, okay. Yeah, but like so we give away two winners three. Yeah
six is more. Okay, out of the three is half of six. So that supports are still
getting banned. I think Phoenix is potentially site-less value for Yandex
because there's no more flex with the center being picked, but it's still just
a strong hero in general. Do you still want to ban out the Ursa if you're
liquid or we're over that? I'm personally over it. I know T is not
because the Acero pull. I think that just when you have this like 1823, if
If they early pick the Ursa there has to be something you can play into it
I think it's very dynamic where it's like last game because of the brawl
Because of the Windranger it didn't really ban it as much this time around they do but to me. I think it's it is very important
Also last game liquid probably didn't ban it because they didn't care about SF going mid
So that alone is a good enough reason not to but yeah liquid banning Ursa
very good
Should all I think the remaster is still in the pool then you take the remaster on Yandex
Ban
Tiny I guess you could take the tiny to it's looked very good in their games. I just think the ringmaster is like such a
Solid here for the draft. I'd prefer they ban the tiny take I agree
It's it's just it's looked really good in this series
And and I think part of why it has looked really good in the series because obviously the meta changes within a best of five
You have these you know wind ranger picks into SF and potential
swapping of SF to mid, maybe Windranger could be a position 4, position 5, whatever.
Basically the meta is shifting and like within the series, Ring has looked good in both of the games that it's been played in.
So has Tiny, by the way. Tiny's looked great.
That's a big one too. Both teams should think about that. I mean Tiny Centaur's very strong
and I think Windranger is more than happy playing with the Tiny.
I'm just looking at, let's say they do pick Satsutair on 13.
When I look towards Malady, there's still Chens that haven't really come into the play,
Disruptor here that he's played throughout the tournament, not yet in this grand finals.
When I'm seeing Centaur and heroes that you want to play on catapult waves,
why not get a hero that can Twin Gate take the tower of a Windranger?
Like she's kind of weak in the early game, like don't forget last time,
she's good in lane and then rotation she can struggle, just to be very clear.
And that's what they did, they rotated on her, but again they scaled throughout.
I did not anticipate the the oracle. It is a one-to-one save, your guy gets shackled like this.
What did you say in previous game? If they pick wind they can now pick shadow fiend tide.
Is that something they might want to do or not? If you can pick shadow fiend AND wind ranger, too much power.
They had a similar draft with that where they had it was a lean-on mid, but they kind of had like the two or two threes and that looked really good.
I think the difference was I believe liquid was second pick in the last game.
Yeah, so kind of changes up what they require for the drafting order right now
I think you want to set up for your 18 to be really strong, which would be probably you take ace hero
plus the five
Or four I guess or tiny's like a flex I guess which kind of like fits the like
Position five support, but you just take ace hero and you want to set up for like some Nisha some Mickey some whatever it is
On 18 to be very very strong
Honestly, I don't mind just running back the brew.
I like the Underlord. They played a very similar lane. It was Underlord vs Oracle.
Why did they play that now? Well, picking 5 position, you get to see more information and then you get the best hero.
Why would you sacrifice him now by holding that Tofu's pick position?
because not many supports are in the pool, so you actually get to pick some, you're not
going to just pick some OP blind hero and when you pick it later you're actually going to
pick some specialized 23 for the game because it will actually see the position 4.
When you take, like Aces heroes, realistically you're not going to change that much and
since there's no Ursa in the pool, you can't get countered like too too hard and there's
an Oracle 5.
Like anytime I see Oracles or Io's or something like that it just gives you like a free,
okay they did think that.
Okay well they just, yeah sure.
The reason why I was hesitant to hype up the ace part is that there's still other options
for what's into play that can be quite damning to weaker off-end is like there's still
Medusa arguments and there's Morphlings and Lunas and all this stuff that I can play
into it but they just run back and they need to tinker.
If you're having such a long day of Dota, right, if you're playing this much-
What is wrong with them?
Do you want to play tinker?
I am full agreement.
I don't even mean because tinker plays long games.
I just mean more like mechanically rearm click laser rearm blink lights. Is there a world where in scrims they
Practice both the mid and support tinker and they wanted to like start using this in their drafts
And we just haven't seen the support tinker yet. I mean insane. You did it when he was on the team
I have been seeing tinker in top level pubs, but it old school
You have the marches healing you buy auras so it's a possibility with oracle central very kind of passive here
I've even picked tinker before today
Uh, they played they played two tinker so far today
They lost both but they all the last one against bedroom this morning
So it must have been they didn't play a tinker in the grand file so far. Did they am I already?
I think they did I believe they did they lost the game to
And they lost game one again. Yeah, it's the first game
It's the first imagine losing with tinker twice in a day
And then you just run it back run it back on three times the charm. That's crazy
easy. You know, they are going to go up against a puck. I believe they've had Tinker banned
against them in the tournament, but coming into the today, this was like the tada, we're
going to lose with Tinker. Issues woke up to me, he's like, huh? They're saying today.
There's a Muerta. That is a Muerta coming out for Yandex. It's flex. Flex. Yes.
now what does this is a weird pick for liquid I'm trying to there's some ace
hero that seems like just super good versus the Martha okay I know I say it
a lot and it's not getting picked but I don't think that here was that bad that
it's unpickable no it's good it should be paid I think that when you see
Heroes like the oracle the puck the martini series are so bad into the brood punishable
Yeah, you have to ban to protect it. Can you brood tinker? Yeah, why not? Yeah, what do you run tinker's tinker stop?
Yeah, no, no, no tinker just shoves mid and children's fun
Oh, it is a tinker support support. Yeah, what is it guys? I don't know what
But if you're gonna play tinker support, why are you revealing that with your 18?
why not you know give them well okay that's chance to prepare for this you've got nature on the team all
right he's a good lad he can win some lanes you see a pot you want to punch him in the face that's
it possibly they wouldn't ban out huskar because they think they already have a thinker yeah as you
can protect it with the two bands yeah that i could see that like imagine they wanted to ban
a they ban a for no reason yeah so now it's like okay we ban protecting our huskar also
the other ones what oh actually they can you is there a way puck can be a
support in this game that puppy's not playing anymore he has retired I mean
tofu is the guy who played it for position I think you just pick thank
it thank the shit mid I think you throw the very surely throw the motor support
and you find what's in a carry that with enough time can go okay I can fix
the problem. There's a lot in play Doom. Yeah I mean Doomcari it would be very
like Eastern European style of approach. I don't like the Doom here though. My
issue like yeah sure it's good Husker one-to-one but Tika supports actually
fun enough good versus it because you just shield the guys do you have like a
it's not a heal but it's like a way to reduce their damage taken in Doom
which is there's not many. You just try to like hyper out DPSM you go for
kez or something like that. Not the kez, Jenkins please. I know, I'm just thinking from their
perspective, not mine. I don't think that where to carry is bad. I think that it's good versus
the wind. You have a way to be like, go septored or ethereal so she can't hit you. Also,
Huskar needs to be able to hit like, yeah, I know there's other things like, it's like
magic resistance when he gets low. But I think where to this such an absurd amount of
of damage no matter what she can kill the huskar so I don't see like a specific
reason why they kind of dodged this match I like that they ban the viper just in
case protect the all costs just in case it's a puck well you could bite that
carry then what they could do somebody a random yeah it's a is there is there
any stuns for ace because they are kind of lacking it's mostly just the tiny
the underlord was picked before I don't know if it's that good anymore for
them I found the hair guys or the ace okay for ace everyone are you ready
hunter Mars Mars Mars by yours to get the puck get the spear no band but damn it
yandex this would have been the moment all right a steps up in the final hours
again for potential elimination the win they do pick the brood and then I
like the fortune I like he's hype yeah you're gonna hype it up the brood the
Spiders the the web
Some spiders I got a rathophobia. Let's get it going
What's spawn spiderlings is the old underlord? Oh the ace underlord coming in with the big pits
Oh, that doesn't sound right
Yeah, he smells fun, I mean it's been a long day. He's even at the odorizing mid game. That's true undefeated
2 and 0. Yandex have respected this hero front of the ground, it's first phase banning it.
They have. To be fair, that is pretty impressive that they have first.
I'm not joking here, Sheva. No, you're not. It's serious business.
Only serious business. Six seconds remaining, Yandex has no time left to think about this one,
so there comes the clinkz. Ooh.
What's the word? I do like clinkz when I see heroes that want to jump into the middle of
the fight and be the center of attention, Klink breaks them, right? Not literally, but through
Deso and Agz. If you're in a bad position, you're going to lose half your HP, you get
a data in the mix, you're probably going to disappear from the game, right? But yeah,
Liquid, some timings to play on. Of course, the easy question is how will Chiridunia
deal with the Haskell lane? What supports will, like, Oracle's not helping there.
You're redundant, you're watching your mid lane and die. Saxa, maybe you can get
a good dead shot, but other than that, it could just become the niche show. Intel
items coming to play. It's a game 5 upcoming. Oh yeah. I don't really like the clinks. Your
skeletons never get like true strikes. They can't hit through the windrun ever. So windrun
is a good match for clinks I think. I just I think there's going to be some random timing
at 20 minutes. You're going to I don't think it's going to be a long game for. I think
it's going to be a fast one. And I think that like we're just going to take it
in like 25 minutes. I just hope this game goes long. We'll be like the plays that
Yanets can make in the late game. The cart save you then have like just the big
damage of a puck jumping onto the back line. Liquid having to play through the
house car. You make one mistake. You can feel the cracks forming. Liquid
struggling. This game has the makings of another beautiful leg game, but Liquid
have all the tools just to be so clean and crush this in like half an hour.
Can someone convince me that that Tinker support is back?
No, Tofu's picked it in the grand finals. Yeah, that's convincing. I ironically think
Liquid is like we want to go home. So we're just going to pick really crazy stuff. And I actually think they've cooked with this. I actually think they picked crazy stuff. Yandex had no idea what was going on. And they cooked something that they have a winning strategy.
I'll sell you. I think that there's so much gold on the map right now. Even more so than ever. Having just like the Martian machines push this third wave is going to give him enough gold. It's going to become a core.
course so even if the T situation where the game goes like the house guy makes a mistake you have
four cores and four cores is more than three well the soul so game number five let's start preparing
I know that there is definitely a lot of people that do not want to see that game number five and
one of them is the coach of Yandex his name is Axel and he's standing on his legs right now
you got his name perfectly right shever I am here with us oh so good to see you again
Mr. Guy, how the hell are we picking clinks? Why you can't pick that hero? How is that good against winner ranger?
I mean it's not pretty good against villager, but it should be good against other heroes, so suggest
What suggests such as other heroes for heroes?
Yeah, yeah, that's enough. Okay. That's pretty good
You guys got brought in to team liquids Thunderdome. They got you into the hiccups. I'm sorry
They got you into the 70 minute game there
How? You guys were so good at closing them out in the first couple games. How did they get you there? Will it happen again?
No, it will not.
How's it going? I think we fucked up.
Oh, okay, okay.
Do you think that your draft is a little bit punishable early game because the panel was saying, excuse me, that they might have a little bit of aggression.
They might be able to clear you guys out in sub-20 minutes.
Yes, we have an idea, what we will do with it, you will see.
I'm not sure it's going to work out, but I hope.
We never tried it before, but let's see.
Okay, alright, well we will keep spoilers and hopefully see it in the game.
Thank you guys so much, let's get into the game!
Liquid are down, but not out, managing to roll their death saving throws
and get themselves into another game here in the Grand Final
as they pull out something magical, some cooking going on in the draft with themselves.
themselves, with Axel there, the index coach saying they're also trying something.
Yeah, I mean, both these teams are bringing very new stuff, stuff we haven't seen that
much of here coming out, and already we saw something we haven't seen much as well in
the tiny move.
Boxes snuck all the way around, stole one of the bounty runes, so getting them a
little advantage from the start.
Very nice, early on, and we'll see our lane set up here, and Sax are also lurking
around the mid lane to help out Chiro Junior against this Nisha Haskar.
I'm fucking against Haskar, they're not fun, so they're adding a little bit
a touch of help from this murder to deadshot and get some chip damage on the
nature also have this high ground observable to keep tabs on him to that's
dangerous though the Oscar gets his level to be careful not to stay too close to him
and the melody down bottom has also been shot away from the lane as this tiny
and underlord two tanky bullies even into double ranged heroes can get on
top of them yeah boots first on melody so he's gonna be able to keep his
distance but it's like says committing to mid you're just straight dual
Laning! Double lane mids! He's even staying and taking experience as well
So well, this is helping the pot to get some nice start. It is gonna hurt his experience game too
I was something we're not seeing for a long time, but you used to be an expert at this back in a day
We have the crystal maid and anti-mage lanes as we lose DM because of this. This is the downside
You're leaving your off laner completely alone. I guess the tanker who's absurdly strong level one laser is just a super strong
harassing spell pure damage. He will not be fine up top
So I'm not sure about this commitment and back then we had like an additional creep in the wave or something, right?
There was at least something that helps you out to do a late mid. This is new technology. Yeah
I mean that there are also jungle camps that were closer to mid at different era. So
When we have seen multiple heroes playing mid
It's usually been due to more resources being there and even with the start
I think Nisha is still gonna be fine. Yeah, sure junior cannot go get the water rune
Okay, you put the husk out down at five last hits while your puck is picked up 12 and 4
But this is now level 3 Huskar, and yeah, got a couple of heroes at level 2.
Wild stuff from Yandex, something that we just do not see.
Well, the thing is, I don't really think the two heroes have kill potential necessarily unless Nisha makes a big mistake here.
So it's going to be difficult for him to do more than bother her CS, and with the HP region coming out from 2 points per circus blood,
I think it's a lot of resources invested for having a level 2 center offline who's just struggling.
So how do you think we got to this?
This isn't something they've tried in scrims, right?
This is something they've sat and done the maths of, or they've theory-crafted,
or they just dropped this as a holiday special?
I mean, you're growing up against that best mid laner in the world,
they give him a Huskar vs. Puck, so, yeah.
I think it's just respect to Nisha, don't give him the start,
but again, that's a second death up top.
Fantastic start for the safe lane over for Liquid.
I think they're smiling all the way, dude.
Yeah, and six last hits for DM dying twice, really struggling up top and complete freedom for this Windranger at 20 and 6 in the last hits.
So the make or break is going to be down bottom. I think, yes, mid lane, obviously. This is some crazy stuff, man.
It's actually being straight up a hater, just double laning it.
But bottom lane is going to be the lane that's the question mark for me. Who will get the advantage down here and build themselves the lead in the game?
Poor DM, he's only a little stand-in.
They're like, okay, DM, right, game four grand finals.
We got this far, but now, yeah, you're on your own.
The honeymoon face of the tournament is over.
They gave him a good lane, you know, gave him good times.
Now it's like, yeah, no, now the real test begins.
This is his trial period, you know,
if he passes this test.
Maybe he looked at Saxa wrong,
but I do get the water in here for the Muerta.
Nisha actually surviving pops his region without one,
get themselves a killing spree for Tofu
as the Tinker comes in, and Chura Jr. also having to disengage now.
Well, don't do that final burning spear, but not easy here, Pjandex.
3-0 start for Liquid.
Get some self-to-safety over on the puck, but Nisha is back in control on the mid lane.
Tofu's like, I wanna get involved in this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dual lane mid lane, I know, I'm a Tinker.
Yeah, with this start as well, it's gonna be difficult for the Centaur to have the pressure he wants against Winner.
I mean, you're typically a good matchup, but when you're set back in gold and experience, it's hard.
It's like the equivalent of a goalkeeper coming up for a corner kick.
You're trying to figure out what's going on if the goal is wide open.
Now Sax moves bottom though, trying to shift the aggression into one of the side lanes.
Ace getting dud-shotted, blood-grenaded, the burning arrows coming through.
They don't have any more stuns or slows, so they require the call.
They're going to catch up with Sax there to get into position and finish the job.
And this is a nice move coming down bottom. They have a huge creep wave as well.
Experience that Undlord would like to get, so Boxxy wants to pull the creeps, but going close is dangerous.
It is. I mean, we've got four ranged heroes across the board for Yandex.
They missed out the deadshot though, so Boxxy able to skip back behind his tier two.
He's going to respawn TP back in. Ultimately, Undlord will be able to farm most of this.
We've been praising teams through this tournament of playing fast.
heroic, liquid, very adept at speeding up the game, playing into these lanes very quickly
to find kills, accelerate and look for advantages, but this Yandex side all of a sudden shifting
into sixth gear.
Yeah, I mean it's hyper roaming Murata essentially.
This is a playstyle that has been pretty dead for a long time, especially starting
out by just laning mid, especially for ranged heroes.
He used to have Earthstreet, Tiny, Clockwork, Roaming, DM, and he's already died twice,
a little bit by little boglets and croakers, but dead nonetheless to Nisha.
Nisha finds himself some nice combat mechanic as well, going here and getting that kill.
It's not like he has had a fantastic start, so getting a kill feels pretty good for him.
So overall, a mild net worth lead for Liquid, but definitely the team that will feel more
comfortable with this whole lane setup, but not atrocious, right?
You know, Yandex, it seems like the game plan has kind of worked.
I think the big predictable play here is as well that they're gonna go for the experienced play, right?
They're looking to invade level 6 on Micke.
Could pop the ulti and only a level 4 Centaur doesn't have enough return damage to fend off the Windranger entirely.
I mean, DM has been shut down almost entirely.
Sherrod Jr. here to gather up some of the farm DM's like, please, I want some.
Yeah, soul experience? No, you share with Sherrod Jr. now.
both yours is mine
Sure, junior
Sat near the wisdom shrine actually Jorns behind liquid there dumb bottom at the safety while you're right
Nisha and ace get themselves the other shrine so double the liquid
Can't get themselves to double and feel pretty good about that and run away
So a little bit awkward for the yandex squad
And Puck simultaneously working on getting level 6, but this did negative downside to putting
two heroes against the Huskar.
You took a lot of EXP from your mid, only now did Puck hit level 6, and Huskar's already
level 7, farming away in the jungle.
So if your intention is to shut down the Huskar, you might inadvertently shut down
your mid laner by leeching.
How about this tanker is ahead of the centaur in the net worth.
And Boxxy, my tiny moves forward, does get silenced by the calling, but they've got enough here to just get past the tower and get another kill.
Tofu, the support tinker, panel was saying, you know, this is a hero that can scale and farm, already dominating, and becoming another call, 8 minutes in!
He's 4-0-1!
Yeah, he's rushing towards Holy Locket as well, which is common for the support tinker builds.
I have seen this quite a bit as well, Tika was talking how he's seen this a lot.
It's it's been brewing. I'm not sure if it's finally cooked, you know, if it's done, but tofu
Brave enough to try it out. I have to put it back if it's raw. Let's see how it goes
Yeah, the heelbots in that March pretty cool stuff as ace also gonna come back to this story, right?
He's underlord undefeated was a respect that a lot as a hero
We'd seen underlord go what zero seven something like that one of the worst heroes of the tournament
But then Ace is like, no, I'm actually the sickest player known to man.
Comes out with a couple of wins, now a game four, gets his hands on it again.
Yeah, he's insane at this hero.
I mean, it sounds weird to say because UNDROID sounds like the worst, like, show-your-skill type.
But that's what Ace does, right? He plays these tank heroes absurdly well.
He just knows exactly what he should do on them, where he should be playing.
Someone tells you they're a snake charmer. Oh, that's sick.
Oh, yeah, someone tells you they're a slug charmer.
Not so cool.
Well, he's going to go for that Vanguard, we'll help him stay alive against the flinks.
And I guess on the opposing side DM is going to get to the hell of the Dominator eventually,
so should have some kind of catch-up mechanic through dragging waves.
The trouble is, it's pre-10 minutes, top tower already dead.
Yeah, we saw the same story for Ace earlier, getting shut down super hard on center and how hard it can be to come back.
He's got Stampede!
You just can't click it when you're in mid-air.
Boxy Tofu come in, cannot kill, the gank is there, and I think you're having the global potential
teeping around, they could start looking for a place anywhere on the map, as Unlord's
soon also going to be able to get the ulti, of course, just focusing farming for now.
When do we get into like diminishing returns, killing the centaur off?
Ten times?
We're already there, this is not because it's a valuable play, this is because
it's keeping him down, it's less so about gaining something for yourself and more
just you know it's easy and we can do it. Well deadshot pushed that windranger pretty close to the
Amplify damage rune, but Cheraginia was just a step further forward to grab it for 10 minutes in
one to six liquid vibing with the map. Yeah it is it is very interesting to see how the Oracle
is going to play out in this game as well though because that's a hero we've been talking a
little bit about how bursty this metai is how you want to focus someone kill them fast Oracle
We can provide some really good safety later on.
Only he doesn't get jumped, but we already have a blink dagger queued up on Nisha.
The Hosscar is gonna be mobile.
Yeah, and then you'll have the global presence of the Underlord as well.
Expecting him after the Auras crimson or whatever it is to go into that Agh-Mceptle later on.
That's making him get on top of that Oracle and make his life a living hell.
It's very possible he will pick that up.
Could also go straight back for the pipe as well to mitigate the puck.
We've seen how good that can be to shut down puck's damage output.
And the siege up is on mid lane, armlets, some heal coming in, and big holy lock is ready
as well to heal up.
Malady playing on the right side of the map, blocking at the camp to try and limit
ace as far, but it's four members of liquid in this mid lane already pressuring
towards the tier one.
And he should with that arm let the steps forward, gives it the clicks.
As it seems like Yandex bringing a couple of heroes over to defend, we'll hold on to
it for now.
That's a lot of heroes for Liquid, and they don't end up getting the tower immediately.
You're respecting the potential catch of a coil, multiple heroes just swarming around
them.
Senter ulti is always a little bit intimidating.
Oh, DM's laughing now.
Oh yes!
Oh, we've got so much farm to gather up, I can get levels, use my helm creep,
Something done on the map. He's only a thousand gold behind that underlord.
Yeah, he's not too far behind. He can start working his way back. He's definitely done everything he can in this team so far.
The downside is just that a lot of centars want to take over and be number one, number two in farm.
He is now behind and has to work on the back foot. That's difficult on a hero who wants to frontline.
Especially when it was picked first right to deal with the Windranger and that kind of match up in the lane
And then all of the utility from that got shut down
Sunks is gonna find a courier snipe there as Mickey will lose out on the gloves. That means no maelstrom for a minute
Delays his damage a little bit his farm rates
Both teams pretty happy to just play the farming game for now
Tofu is starting to use the map as well playing on tinker also quite easy for him to get around and put down wards
having that global TPR on?
Well I think we've talked about everyone but the Clinks now
Watson on this hero, the last pick from Yandex
the coach saying, you know, maybe not necessarily a good hero against Windranger
but can be very good against the Huskar, the Underlord
Watson has his desolator ready now and it's a hero we've seen pop off
It's good pass by get the desol, he's queuing up the Dragonlands
can only expect him to get the shard at 15 as well
Liquid looking to pick up the pace though, playing into the Clinks' lane
lane three smoked and moving forward might not be protected by malady who
walks into everyone just walk into the Oracle snipe him down and let the clink
slip away and then transfer their energy onto that tier one keeps clink safe at
least but they're not really getting a split push for a different tower right
now they're starting to siege mid with socks off but that's going to be
defended by toffee as well so annoying playing into this tinker maxed out
March. Very good at zoning out any kind of push, clearing the wave, gathering up his
own farm. Difficult to dive. Don't want to go walking into his March on the machines.
Getting some nice help though, this mid tower is going to take a lot of damage.
Glyph on cooldown. Tiny does not have a blink yet, but it sucks as low. He's
going to walk in, have launch toss, some good damage into all of them, but
the heal is already being stacked up by the Oracle, and Boksy is just going to
It's not in the tower!
The knockout punch, too strong, 150 damage.
It's quite a lot for a little support.
Easy last hit.
It feels like DM right back in the game.
Had a very awkward phase in the first 10 minutes,
but now more than recovered.
In the most recent four.
Smoke from Yandex,
a minimum position here to contest enemy ancients.
It can often be true when the tier one tower falls early,
you get more space to farm.
It creates this safe area
because the enemy already got what they wanted on this lane.
So he's been farming quite well up top.
He's just going to lose his Dominator Creep to the Oscar, who kills it quite fast, of course, having blinked at, you know.
Oh, I thought Yandex were going invading there.
They've not got any vision to play into, as this entire map actually is covered by dire Observer wards.
The only bit of vision they have, yeah, is up into that top jungle by their own side of the map.
Yeah, I mean, would be nice for them to get some value out of the coil.
The witchblade is also ready, ganking towards the Windranger, but it's difficult to get
out there when all the time lanes are being pushed out by tinker sitting somewhere, tiny
just spamming toss.
They're using their supports as a shield on the side of Team Liquid.
That's good.
That's what supports should do.
Protect the course.
I mean they get to farm it's a good deal. It's a very symbiotic relationship. Yeah farm and die
Let me survive
Sucks up level seven gonna hold that on top
But liquid we're seeing their timing start to hit here
Holylock and Pavis on the tinker crimson on the underlord
This is where the illusion rune and dominator can be nice
So you can actually push the tower even if tinker is here clearing out creep waves you can wrap around
trying to root them out. Mika, he's going to start off on DM's center,
a dead shot pushed back by Saxon. And it's boxy, he's going to avalanche toss the puck illusion,
try and clear out this wave and defend the tower. And Yandex, they've brought four heroes up here,
liquid with just the three. Huskar isn't too far away, but he's under radiant vision,
so Yandex knows exactly what's going on in this area.
Blink to safety is gonna stay fine for now. Nisha not going too aggressive this game, but working on a Sunch
Very key item Flasker to get that extra. It was region stay a little bit higher HP
And see just being held at bay quite effectively by the two supports while winter and your keeps farming
And if you do bring all the numbers top four heroes here committed to this zone
I mean liquid are being able to farm back
Build up this lead to that 3k now
We might see an upward ulti-immediate ES Crimson Guard ready.
Still not easy to break this tower.
Yeah, march to the machines, boxy, bodying, defending back against the puck.
And Yandex, looks like there's no intention to bring the clinks in here, so Nisha makes the jump.
Stampede disengaged.
Pretty isolated.
There's a fiends gate coming in, they saw off the underlord, so no control until now.
Saks are gonna break free with Pierce the Vale.
Liquid responding to Yandex's move here with all five members joining in.
That's a good defense in the end, but I mean the tower does drop to the creeps and nobody really died
So flinks happily farming away has the shard
I have to say it's a minor win for yandex as we see him in the jungle
Dragonlands and shard 17 minutes. This is a fantastic level farm for Watson. Yeah, nearly a 10,000 net worth
Nineteenth minute he's queuing up that crazy damage output as well the Daedalus next item
It's what we saw Yattaro do as well when we were casting him.
Yeah, you're right.
Now just go for that raw damage.
So given the game state,
we've got past this funny double lane mid,
DM dying four times in lane.
We're back to just a normal game of Dota, aren't we?
There's 18 minutes in, we're looking at Roshan, Tormentor.
The jump on the wind ranger with a coil there, Mikkei.
Where's the backup?
He needs teams that can help him.
Boxy will arrive with the avalanche toss.
Mikkei's still alive.
Green man, hit!
Trying to catch them up.
Saksa drops.
There's the Huskar, though, dropping low, turning and fighting into DM.
The Torso tries to finish him, but the arm of Torso, the Malaysia, stays alive!
The Huskar can't be dealt with. Yandex, they lose three heroes.
Is Gambling for more?
I think Tiny has cooldown.
Spot to the puck with the ward, though.
And they know Chiro Junior's very low.
There's another blink.
Puck wants to go on Windranger. This could backfire on the box he has.
The Avatar finishes him off!
Shiro Junior down and Watson, he's being eyed up here.
Boxy and Mickey on his tail, in comes Nisha, they don't have it!
Watson's in fountain, Yandex!
I'm glad to allow someone to escape but liquidus bring everything!
That was one auto attack away, Nisha with some God toggles in that jump.
He jumps in, assassin next oracle, lives the tail-to-tail, turns it around, keeps
No, people.
A Toss back on Saksa, a bonus kill incoming, or he's going to S-swing and Stampede.
I saved this time, but not Stampede on cooldown and could be a very important cooldown if
they ever get on top of the Klinks in this duration.
Of course, Contesting Roche, watch out for those bashes.
If you can toggle his way out of that teamfight, there's no way he dies to Roche though.
No way.
No.
Zero chance.
Zero probability, Gary.
He's a goat.
No pro players ever died from Caster's Curse, it is a fake thing, it doesn't exist.
Superstitious nonsense.
Things slow down now, Yandex, lick their wounds and figure out what the next play is.
This is, I can tell you this from like just experience playing in pro games, this is terrifying though.
You dual lane against Nisha, you shut him down and lane or you try to, so we can see a jump quite tiny.
Foul with bow shot.
If you dual lane and focus a mid player that hard,
and then he still doesn't die a single time.
He's still popping off, he's still killing people.
He's higher level than everybody else in your team.
It puts fear in you, I'm telling you. It's scary.
Yeah, like, what do you even do to answer it?
Because I'm looking at this.
He's on bot.
Nisha, Husker just jumped on the pot.
I'll be cheering you on.
The backup from the Oracle to buy some time and save him.
False promise used, but Mali's being run at.
First life of Huskar down. I don't know if Yandex want to stick around though.
Opening a gate, making it possible for people to join. They're just going to go through and take
the Tormentor though. Well at least they break the Aegis. And Tormentor being taken by the other
members of Liquid. But in this kind of game where you're looking at Yandex, okay, they've got
you know a lot of damage. These ranged heroes. The save from the Oracle. Who goes in?
But Glick we can send Tiny, Undlord, Huskar, give vision, allow Mikkei to run around and do damage, Yandex rely on Chirijunia?
It's basically Puck, he has to jump in, create vision and then for Watson to maybe find a good sneak around and go on to a target who's isolated.
That's pretty much their initiation, it's hard when you don't have Rod of Ages as well, over on the side of Mirtha, she went for the drums build.
Again, I'm very vocal about being a fan of it, but in this game, no ATOS is a bit scary, I think.
Another double wisdom shrine as well for liquid.
Even more going their way.
Yeah, Pipe Tinker, 8000 net worth ahead of the Sector, by about 400, is stacking up all of these saving items that can drag the fight out.
Protect you against the Clinks.
We're seeing a lot of saving items, yeah.
The Typing Crimson are up, the Glimmer and the Pavis, but not only that, we also have Tiny coming in with the Four Staff.
So there's going to be so many different tools to come in and save you on top of, of course, the Defense Matrix, which is perhaps the most important one.
And he got the Shard on Tinker, that's a scary Shard.
Being able to hold people in place, if he ever catches the Centaur with that, he's just not moving.
Ah, just warp him around.
They're pivoting down to bottom now.
Chira Junior trying to farm out this bottom right-hand corner
that was playing under a dire ward for a long time.
They're moving.
Blink.
This puck might just die.
Power shot scouts, in comes Boxy.
Abelash toss, catches Oracle, has to save himself.
False promise.
Used up while puck does TP out.
He kills the range creep.
Well, Puck does TP out!
He kills the range creep. He does what he can before dying.
Press 2. At least get some gold.
Job well done. Puck survives.
Yeah. Puck didn't really get caught fully there.
Just a shackle didn't connect.
But again, they're onto DM now.
Ace hiding by the tree.
He dips into the fog.
1 to 13 after how the first two games went.
This is crazy to see how much it has flipped. 7k lead at 23 minutes.
Just the change in expectations, right? Because there's a certain flow to the game.
You're expecting your items to hit a certain timing.
Or if you do get shut down, it's okay, catch up mode.
But with all the little knobs and levers that have been pulled and pushed and twisted here by Liquid and Yandex,
you don't have the same idea of where the game is heading, what the next move is going to be.
There's just so much chaos, so much fluctuation in what's actually happening.
All right, I'm gonna go on a theory here. So the clink's pick I think might backfire a little bit here because a big part of what
Makes clink so good is he sneaks up and kills some support. Okay, as we see a support game gone on
Yeah, what flat?
He's gonna die. He's dips alone. He's gone. I don't know who is he
Not affiliated with that poor marita
Clink's will struggle in this game because there's no easy kills on liquid their supports are first of all quite tanky
The tinker farms a lot across the map and tiny is just a very durable hero to begin with and then you have hunt lord who can always reinforce
So who is clings kind of feed on because he usually requires some sustenance something to eat gareth
But there's none always he is malice dying
Yeah, meanwhile if you look at the sports of yandex, which is a oracle and marita
These heroes are extremely easy to kill by comparison
way simpler
Yeah, I don't know. I was a gun on the panel saying we're heading to game five. It's starting to feel that way now
Liquid in the groove 15 to 1 9k lead. I mean you give you give ace under lords
I don't think you do it again. It's just he feels so comfortable on this hero
He's about to finish his agonim scepter and then it's just gonna be incredibly difficult
Sammy only needs 700 golds.
Crimson Pipe making him and his teammates pretty much invulnerable.
100% win rate so far.
Yeah, two games, but still looking very impressive when he does it.
I mean, all the other players playing it lost, right?
We saw the win rate on this hero, we looked it up early.
It's like, yeah, it's losing every game.
But I always say there are two players in the world allowed to play on board.
It's Ace and Amar.
Yeah.
Ace is handled, handled it here.
Ace is just absolutely a god player on this.
So Yandex, what, drag this game out, try to go late with the Clinks scaling?
They need to force some big fights happen though. They can't just go late. I think they really do need to force some issue.
They have the Daedalus over, or Daedalus and Didi Rune ready right now. Could be a power spike to play on.
Because they do have a team of carries, right?
The Murta can scale, Clinks obviously, the carry can scale.
Central with a cart is pretty good as well.
Well, Murta in theory can scale, but not this Murta and how it's being played here.
Like Saksa, it's gotta take a long time before he heads into some DPS territory.
It's not a Powertreads build, he has not been hitting creeps this game much.
Still got a minute and a half on a clock for Roche, but both teams smoking and moving
in towards each other.
Liquid get some vision down.
Oh, this sort of works.
It's under a sentry.
Yeah.
Both teams are aware.
And he is all alone. That's 3000 raw health plus crimson pipe with like 5000 HP underlord maybe more.
And he's under a tower so there will be time for them to TP in. Difficult to go on.
So he's just sitting at like bonus 200 damage just from farming creeps. That's insane.
Usually I see this type of damage after a teamfight but this is what he has just from farming.
Actually getting creeps non-stop.
It's that aura and duration talent. It's so good.
Another smoke from Yandex.
I didn't want to try and get something done.
Difficult for them to find an objective to take,
so it looks like a twin gate play down to the bottom right corner.
There's a BKB on Micke though, so not the easiest kill,
even if they get close to him.
See if they can stun him.
He's gonna win run. He knows this is coming.
He's already escaped before the Andux even got here.
When the heart is coming for Nisha in just a while, a thousand gold plus the reaver already, Nisha is getting dangerously big.
And like, Clinkz has a lot of damage, but he is alter a glass cannon by comparison to the sustainability and durability of Team Liquid.
So if Oracle ever gets caught out, the Clinkz is just insta-dead.
And another situation similar to what we saw previously where Watson can't go toe-to-toe with Mickey
Yeah
Yeah, no, it's not before MKB
Yeah, not not until he has a lot of tools. He's going for a Daedalus into NKB, which obviously will be great for DPS
But again, he's doing this cutting corners, right? No hurricane pike, so he has no repositioning
He relies on Oracle to save him
And basically the only way to save him is by winning the teamfight.
It's been scouted.
The pinball machine at the Wisdom Shrine.
Bounce to the wall. Bounce and dies.
And we're entering that territory, the panel we're talking about.
Plus one core? I'd say you have reached it now.
Tinker is already ahead of the center of the network.
He's catching up to the rest as well as he's definitely using the map really well.
Dude, he's been there since like minute four.
He was 4-0-1 at the start of the game basically.
Yeah, he's 5-0-5 now.
Hasn't died, has been in the right place at the right time.
Got my Kraken game.
And now, this big map that we have in Dota.
Tofu's making the most of it.
Damn it, having two global heroes.
Off the back of a good laning stage,
you are just a vacuum cleaner.
Moving up every little bit of farm.
Taking every piece that Yandex would want for themselves.
I keep seeing all these windows
where it feels like Yandex might make a move.
You know, they have the Arcane rune and the Octareen finished up.
We would wish for them to take a fight, but then you realize it's so hard.
I think they see the the team fight difference right now is insane with Pipe and Crimson
on one team and the other just having a
under farmed Crimson center.
The plot armor's too strong. The storyline's too powerful.
Liquid going through these long games against Heroic.
You know, Low Bracket gets Betfum now into this grand final.
They've had 70 min of games, horrible.
And he's going to get jumped here
For that Agamceptor Underlord on a jump from Boxy.
Maldich.
Taken down quickly.
It's also just how Wallachia Finals should go, Gareth.
This is...
Yes, this is what...
This is tradition.
It absolutely is.
I'm sorry.
But seriously, we have to have this conversation again about the notoriety of Team Liquid.
I guess...
Okay, this was a bit of a wonky draft, but you definitely sense the fear of Yandex knowing that the game's slipping away from them.
But not being able to find purchase on the map.
There's no traction here, Liquid are literally too slippery.
Ooh, trying to catch the puck but he's gonna be fine.
Quick face shift there from Chura.
But it's another Roshan and Aegis for Nisha.
How much of it is even respect for Team Liquid in this game,
and how much of it was respect for Nisha?
Because that double lane mid was some heavy investment
that basically put them in a guaranteed
we're not gonna run over the game early, we're gonna go late,
and as we head late, I think Team Liquid's draft is enjoying the map much more.
It's all those things, but it's in addition,
Liquid's ability to outplay people and find these avenues, find the goes.
Boxing's on this tiny again, right?
How many times have we seen him carry the game with initiation?
Find these openings to delay a game from 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes through a tossback on a core.
Now he's got his hands on this.
And he has all the tools he needs.
He's got the gem, got the goal scepter, can run around, feel pretty safe.
Even if Klinkz was to sneak up on him somehow around the tree line,
He's still a school scepter. Just run away.
I'll attend K-League now.
Liquid looking to press their advantage into more objectives.
The tier 2's on the menu.
Team Yandex relegated to cutting waves.
The clink's? Yes, it's at the top of the net worth.
Twenty thousand for him.
Scaling, but the glass cannon build.
He's unable to do anything if he can't touch a target.
He's finishing up the entire MKB right now.
And the question is really going to be what you said there.
how well can they provide him with a stunned up target that he can auto attack into because there's that, you know,
Goceptor, there's different saving tools.
Look at Boxing.
Oh, they're on the Clinkz immediate.
Straight on the Clinkz.
They've got the gate coming in. False promise used on Wasson.
He turns and tries to get Dany's forward.
They struggle in there with Mickay and Aix. They're right on top of him blowing him up through the false promise.
Oracle in trouble now as well.
Malior, Blank away and TP Hone successfully gets out of there.
But Misha is on Saksa as another fire brewing in that top jungle.
That's what I was hinting at earlier when I said the only way to save him is by winning the fight, you're never gonna run away.
It's a no BKB clink, he has no Hurricane Pike.
You're not gonna be able to magically get out from this teamfight, not against Aghanim's Underlord.
And he could not stand and deliver, it does not really work there. Overrun by Team Liquid's power.
And now four heroes up here, another Tormentor,
Sean Phoenicia, Aghanim Scepter pretty much done for the Windranger.
And Chiro Junior on this pot, the hero that had the assistance in lane, the dual lane mid,
is still yet to get involved really.
I mean, we're getting to a point where the hero I'm really concerned about is the Huskar, right?
We usually think of Huskar as a tempo early game hero,
But when he gets to farm the entire map like this, he becomes an absurdly strong mid-to-late game hero as well.
He has Heart, Sanji Asha, and he's building towards this Agnem Scepter next.
At that point he will be a murder machine.
Stuck in that base.
Yeah, and unfortunately for them, just looking through, I don't really see the Huskar solutions other than Klink's killing him.
Like that's the only thing that can kill him and
They don't have any spirit vessel no sheevahs nor I have Scotty no heal reduction at all
No silver edge no side for bice. Yeah, literally nothing
And of their relying on raw damage output relying on my blink in with this ages as well any moment
If he gets a whiff of where yandex are sitting and he's gonna make that jump
DM is front lining here just behind the tree
And Yandex, there it is.
Boxing goes in straight towards the Muerta.
Sass is getting blasted while DM steps up.
And Yandex feel they need to do something to try to fight back.
Don't give it away for free, but Mikke with a BKB is safe and sound behind the defensive line of Liquid,
turning on Chiro Junior with another toss-up, Shackle Shot,
and Jack was coming in.
Chiro Junior winning rip, but down he goes.
Nisha slips away, still holding Aegis while they get the catch on the clicks.
He can't run away, he's going to get tossed. Oh, he's still stuck in the room here.
A bit of malice traps him inside. Right click down, he's about to die.
Watson falls, and Yandex. Four heroes gone. Liquid. Clear them out.
34 minutes in, they're going high ground.
It's so dominant from them. They're so durable. Every single one.
Nisha tanked clinks for the entire fight there. Didn't even lose the ages.
It's over, man. They're just calling it.
5! This one was worthless!
Yeah, it really was. Back to the drawing board. They got one single kill, Gareth.
Complete flop. And ultimately Team Liquid, they're now in this way of tying it up, man.
Game 5! Liquid! The second win! 5 passing all the time! There's a smile to the spirits it lifted!
Yandex got to rethink their plan now because we're heading into game 5 where Liquid have the momentum.
Yeah, momentum and they're looking scary.
It is a rough feeling to lose game number four as well.
And we'll head back to the panel.
Would it really be Wallachia without a game five and a best of five Grand Finals?
I don't think so. Team Liquid, they actually, this was of all the games.
And the first two games were pretty one-sided, still in favor of down next.
I think this actually was the most one-sided one that we've watched so far done.
Yeah, I think that, uh, they finally maybe found something that worked.
I think they, which was just pick the most random shit, throw it at wall and hope it's stuck.
And it's not Husker, but the Tinker five, I don't even know what the draft was.
The whole time I'm like, Oh, you know, I kind of see what's happening.
And then it just changed in fairness.
Right.
I think both coaches allowed one, one surprise right in game two.
Yandex utilized the Phoenix to throw it to offline.
They win the game quite easily in this game.
game four, Liquid picked the Tinker, baiting out the puck,
throwing the Tinker then into the five position
to get the iconic Nisha Husker.
So it's like, no, you know, game two, game four,
congratulations, coaches.
You did your little thing, you surprised the other one,
but now, of course, it does move to a single game
to decide who will be the winner.
It's funny that it's a surprise though,
considering Tinker already lost for Liquid twice today.
But what that said to me is like,
I mean, a lot of the times that you see
a new core come out like this,
So it's like, okay, why are they like forcing Tinker
in all of these games?
Why are they trying to make it work
playing these 80 minute games?
Like usually it's because it's some tool
in the draft or in the game.
Like there's some heroes that are a tool in the game,
you know, like Marcy versus Largo for example.
There are other heroes that are a tool in the draft
where you pick it and all of a sudden you have
to counter it.
Or if you do counter it, it's off the support.
Why does Oracle have two assists
even though there's only one kill?
Did he assist on a team kill?
Yeah, that's some funky shit.
He wanted to help.
He was like, if I joined Liquid and I win a game,
does that give us the third win in the series?
If only.
I think for Yandex, they're failing it now.
They wish that mechanic worked.
I do want to say I shout out to Liquid,
final day until they get a break,
is what the longest day of Dota I think.
Almost, not yet, not yet.
How much time do you know?
But what's the stat?
What's the stat?
So Noxville did send me the message.
Hold on, there was a round like this game
had to go 60 minutes for it to be the longest. This game has to go 62 minutes and 35 seconds
for a single team to have the longest day of Dota. That is going to be a 12 hour window,
a realistic day of Dota. So in the next game, if the sum of this game plus the game five
exceeds 62 minutes, Liquid would have played.
Which will be 27 minutes because they are, yeah, because they are 20, this one was
34. So it needs to be 28.
So probably yes.
Yes, but they're yeah for liquid. Not only will they have the second longest best of three in the history of Dota
They also have the longest day of Dota played for a professional team also in the history of Dota
To potentially win the trophy as well
That is just testament to the players to the coaching team to the man by everything about it
It's just insane to think that they also could be there. Sorry. Not be the 3p of the org. Yeah
Yeah, I mean they would have standard PGA. Well, I hear that's insane
Yeah, and it's the only organization that's ever won twice twice already like they're the only
Blitz is first
Breaking the curse. Oh you've ruined it now
Why would you bring up now?
When they lift the trophy if they lift the trophy, I don't care if he wins
He's not me and that's gonna win this just as easily
So I want XL or Axel or whatever his name is to win. Do you give me happy?
Maybe then people will get his name right if we if we wins a cell a cell a cell a
WC EL don't know why there's an exit. Oh
Excel
No, that's just that's a software. That's a spreadsheet. I think it's a cell. I was using that to do my my calculations
Yeah
Also, you go to a vela here and how hype they are. Yeah double check in the six seasons
had before this one. Yeah. Three of them went to 3-1. The other three went to 3-2. So we've never
had a Valahia that has generated a 3-0. That in itself is testament to the Swiss stage, to the setup
that people have. Oh, I think the Swiss stage is playing a major part of that. Light collapse of
production doesn't get annoyed at me. I think it's a bit awkward just me doing it. Thank you.
Okay, this is too good. Thank you. Let's look at something else instead. Let's look at the
Let's look at the comparison of Tinker versus Suntor, why not?
I want to bring up this comparison because of course we have to praise the concept of Yandex back against the wall having this type of draft against them.
They did dual lane and mid lane and I think it's more towards DM. He was like, you know what, you can do it.
Some offlaners would have tried shutting down the idea, saying, no, I need the help, but they identified that the only way to try and win this game
was give Puck a game to get Prasmasheevas and maybe there's a world to play out the late game to DM
He sacrificed himself got killed by Tinker. Tofu then dominated the entire game
But even though it looks clowny
I think you've got to tip your hat to them
But they even tried to do something in a draft that looked so dire. I think that
in my opinion, I think it's way better to just sack mid and
Just play the 2v2 offline because I think the issue with what they did here is
They lose mid anyway because they're down half the XP their center gets crushed in the offline
At least if they do like a 2v2 in the offline there's a chance they win that lane top the puck can I think survive mid?
Better because also the okay the weird thing about dual any minutes if
Husker tonight zero creeps puck is the same amount of XP as if Husker tonight every single creep
So it's like what's the point of doing any mid for just for the CS? I guess the real legit
It's just for gold, which like yeah it matters but at that point
Husker is not going to deny every single creep so you would get more exp on the puck by just letting him be in a 1v1
And there's like wave manipulation stuff. I don't know. I think it was just a big mistake
I wanted to praise it though because I think a generic team would have just done the 2-1-2
Accepted their fate, but it's like DM died top to tinker on the final hit
He had three tangos and a salve if he doesn't die to that click he'll reset B4 HP
And then his CS will look better when you look towards mid lane. You saw the water and the
Puck actually missing denies as two versus one
So they improved their denying and they shut out the lane a bit better
We could have been talking about other things so yes
I'm like after the fact it looks like ours bad idea
But if they had to self and they utilize it better if they had better denies
We could have been talking about different scenario where it's like
They had to think about it like you have to praise teams trying to do new things speaking about talking about different scenarios
one more point we'll make how how sad do you think liquid is but let the law go
through game number one I'd like to see it even care about that no I think they're
pretty sad about it if I were you I'm pretty happy about game number five in
the longest day of Dota jumping there you know those records gonna hold the
hold the title gonna hold the title of the championship and that will be done
by whoever wins the upcoming Game 5 of this best of five Grand Finals.
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five-time Young Dex versus Team Liquid.
One of these two teams will be our champion.
It's two for two.
And so we've seen both teams win and both teams,
how they play, how they get their road to victory,
some a little bit faster than others.
As Liquid has definitely shown in some longer games.
But the previous game we watched was the first one,
where, what's happening over here?
They go all touchy, so I get felt left out.
So I just started hugging myself.
That's a fair reaction, actually.
I can't contain myself. It's just such a good game of Dota.
I just am happy to share with some of my best friends.
Okay. So the previous game was the first game where
Liquid was able to have a solid early game.
And that has not happened in the series yet.
I mean, it's because of the drafting flip.
So I don't want to try and over send fire, but it does bow down to that.
Right. Nisha dominates mid. They get these kind of good concepts.
You also have a two buses, one in top, like you have the,
like this game is like one you see like once a tournament, right?
Because no coach looks at this game and goes, oh yeah, we're going to probably replicate this again.
It's so hard to replicate this because once you do it one time, like you've played your trap card, right?
Yeah, I think like in general, I will say, okay, Yandex and Liquid have both done a very good job at it.
Like the drafting master class in this tournament where you have hero being picked.
It's traditionally played in this role.
They haven't revealed that they can also play it in this role.
So if this hero comes out from Liquid, they're going to then flex it to the role that they've never flexed it to before.
And then Liquid on their side is flexing something to something they've never flexed it to before.
And then all of a sudden they're losing two games today with Tinker, but they haven't shown the support flex on Tinker.
Like, so part of the grand plan.
So, oh boy, down to this.
There are so many levels to the drafting coming out of both sides here.
It's very impressive.
Sometimes you have tournaments where the grand finals is legitimately just like
Boring drafting both ways and then the better team wins or maybe one slight
Alteration in the draft and then the team that lost one and you have the series going all five games like today
We are treated with not only like really epic Dota, but insanely good drafting as well
So it's it's just maybe we will see how the game five turns up
But in contention for best Milwaukee of all time in contention
We've not even mentioned it one time reverse sweepers on the cards. Well, it is like I don't think any of those mad those other
Five game series were reversed. Who's were they?
Here we go. Now you gotta look it up now you gotta look it up now intrigued by the the prospects
That's the other right excuse spirit season one. Nope. Do we do it one by one?
Oh, yeah, one by one one by one. I wrote Falcons doesn't matter. That's free one. Oh, okay
Then we had what was this one? That's free one don't care three two season four guys
During the season four that's 32 that was a 3-2
Not a reverse sweep liquid won the first two games. Yeah, then lost three and four
One game five though
Season five scrolling it could be the reverse it wasn't season six
So the final three to do you think we had a reverse sweep?
With mouth. No, no, no it was yeah, not a reverse week
So the first potential reverse week the first potential reverse week
Longest day, longest best is three.
God, they are just stat farming, stat padding.
Guys, what if they just pick like,
10 new heroes?
Nah, there's no way Largo gets through.
Honestly, you know what?
I'm kind of down for Largo to get through,
just because I feel like at this point,
you're letting it get through,
because there's some counter that's not shown yet.
Look at the, I love this respect.
It's like, so Yandex only has about three heroes,
because they got first pick and they can therefore let everything through and it's like respectful
Isn't it weird though that they're bending the wind on first pick when the hero seems like
you can just first pick it and it kind of breaks the current like pick order you don't want to pick
Shadowfiend because of it? I don't know. It forces doesn't it force the Shadowfiend band now out of liquid?
Yes but but you really want Yandex to like I think liquid you look at them you scream
win ranger but for yandex it's like do you want them to be jumping on the kind of the drafting
train of liquid do you want to adopt a liquid mentality in a game? Is water's wind pretty good?
Yeah but what's in wind is that you see some identify you see some reason right? I see
shadowfiend what's a new pop-off king right but I don't think I want to see what's another first
pick win ranger. Well that means liquid's giving up either shadowfiend or shadow demon?
Yeah I mean shadowfiend also for liquid it was quite a cool concept to give away right? Not
And the only do you put Watson onto a Shadowfiend, it prevents the need for a Nurser-Man.
If they even pick it, you have like this weird double farming core, so I just like the idea
of Liquid giving away a Shadowfiend, just kind of protecting Ace.
I would also, oh, they leave both in the pool, but Shadowdemon is so strong.
I don't know, did Saksa lost a game on Shadowdemon?
I don't think so.
He has not.
Like that is a crazy strong hero to leave in and is considered also a counter towards the shadow fiend
Yeah, it's just good first way too many things in the current meta. It's just good for shadow fiend
It's good versus any it gives you everything save damage purge
It gives you the built in nullifier, but it's a better nullifier because oh whoa
okay, I
Mean the melody Jackie. I know the melody to cure is really good, but
I it doesn't really do anything for the draft in my opinion like there's you don't change any of your picks because you see a
Jikiro there's nothing like I can't pick this hero now or I have to pick this year now it just exists and you're like
Okay, well, they just have the stable strong five
But once you get into these stages of best of five you are looking at who shows their hand first right like jikiro
You're what you're describing
He's not revealing anything same thing from warlock
If you pick an SD or maybe revealing a lower damage side lane or the the need to make that kind of reactive moves
Decuro wallet. Okay, cool. Please progress your truck test me try and break first from that. Oh, man
That's true
And maybe they also don't want to show socks as picked so early because like tiny for example has had really big value in this
Best of five as well as just today in general. So maybe they're looking to potentially get like a socks a
tiny or you know maybe they end up banning it because liquid does have 13
pick. I mean for liquid right now I'm thinking the tiny the shadow demon the
shadow theme those are like the big three I would say for them. I like to
support more than the... it's like weird to give away the shadow theme though
that's my biggest concern. Especially to when you have the 16-17 pick
because I feel like you're getting a really strong like generic hero with
with less picks left for Yandex to like hard counter it.
This is such an interesting draft.
It's so strange.
It's interesting because of what is not picked.
Yes, yes.
But it also goes to the point where I say,
of course there's tournament heroes,
but at what point is like picking the tournament hero?
Like you don't, again, like I said,
if you pick Shadow Theme out of phase or the Tiny,
I don't know, there's something about these coaches
where you want to wait a little bit more.
You really want to try your best to get further.
I think Tiny is the easiest band.
If Liquid has it available, they'll just default pick it
no matter what.
Yeah.
And Shadow Fiend has lost all those games
that it did play in the final so far.
There has been a change of build though.
The Shadow Fiends in the Grand Finals
haven't gone for Yashakaya.
They've been going for the Mask of Madness
and the Right Click.
And that timing shifts along on items.
I thought maybe it isn't matching the pacing
of these games we're seeing.
Yeah, that's true.
And I also feel teams have more answers to SF
that haven't been shown.
Like Marcy, Kerry is a really good one.
Ursa, which we've not seen because it's banned
because as you've mentioned, like Ace is hero pool
and it being so strong against that.
Windranger, obviously we've seen,
but it just seems like there's more answers
than what people knew about like a week ago.
And then even though they have the 18 pick,
they still respect the nature of Puck.
They don't want to have to put
Junior on a like the melee mid laner that can shut you down, but it does give away the tiny
That your shadowing Ben and the tiny is probably the most likely thing
There's a there's a world like they want him in the shadow fiend, which I think it's fine and give away shadow demon, but
To me, I think at this point the way the drafts are going. There's also the Ursa. We talked about that they ban
Yeah, um
It will be rough if I have to analyze a game five, yeah, let's get Ursa and then they win that that
I'll have to try and...
Yeah, I think that'd be a bit different.
I was just always worried giving away Shatterdemon. I think they're here to provide so much on this matter.
The Dispel alone is insane when you do get the shot.
If we think about the previous games of today, it feels like a very long day,
but if we think about a lot of the games, Aandisk has actually been very, very strong.
And BKB Aandisk especially.
And so if you BKB and you get nullified, your Aand goes off and you're perfectly fine.
Verscedon even his is basically a millifer that goes to BKB with his ult
So it's like the best way to beat BKB and as a combo, which seems very powerful, especially with like refreshers
So like I don't know it just seems like the type of here that should just be good in these types of drafts and games
But for liquid their draft is better suited for a tiny
They have to pick the go in here and we've seen this combination work wonders and then it only invites
chandex to think about this hero with the shift of the bands due to the
intensity of this best of five right as much as a shadow demon like a million
times it wouldn't be surprising if we saw it right if you yeah but then again
if they want a melee initiating hero to follow what a tiny can do on the map
maybe just goes on ignore it really could be that case I think they pick
like shadow and shadow fiend and no surprise at all a hero as good as this
You are meant to see it a drop. There's a there's a world they take their offline here for DM
But if you think shadow fiend, I think there's nothing really crazy look we can take anymore
And there's even I don't know if they've played it or chair wants to play it
But there's still technically a shadow fiend mid flex
It is just such a juicy prospect though to get an 18
SF like if they pick centaur here or something like that SD centaur
Yeah, but what's like the difference between having 18 at SF and 15 SF right like the 16 17 counterpick
isn't gonna be crazy in my opinion like sure maybe you play or some Marcy the
dad like you're still fine and then your agent pick maybe they pick something
that deals with the Marcy the difference could be liquid might look
towards if they saw it on 15 they now pick like monkey kings and heroes that
stop breaking into the map closing it out being really aggressive and dm
that taking his 0-2 bristle back thank you just another great hero overall bristle's
just been weird yeah yeah it always ends up so a lot of the time it'll get picked
in the draft from like they need some tanky or a buyer yeah and there's like
one or two options left maybe a tie here or under or something like that and
then they just pick the bristle I think my reasoning for that is instead of
going for aura tankiness you go for kind of reflected damage tankiness but
Like the bristle runs in and he kills them rather than taking up his team
It helps with the sd right like I'm pretty sure the sd bristle partnership might look better than other bristle partnerships
We've seen just throw everything on him. He goes in he buys lotus pipe it makes sense
But now liquid need to decide they're also cool thing about
Bristle drafts versus liquid is they don't really pick viper on any other course
Like you sure I'm sure you obviously can play it, but he doesn't really want to play it
H doesn't really want to play it so that leaves their option with hoodwink for the support so they could end up right now taking
hoodwink plus like a shadow fiend or taking it with like an off laner
Which they might do and commit the tiny to mid but something I always say every time I see the tiny is a mid
It's like ember is in the pool on 18. It's a good Mars game
It's a really good Mars game for liquid. Yeah, you got the SF old
You have tiny toss and to spear that's something that's a crit in a mar like to play in the lane
Warlock Mars. It's just it's such a dangle. It's such a bait like clearly liquid has
identified that they prefer when ace is on the more like aura heavy heroes and they're winning when he is
Then you're giving the cats an 18 the the counter matchup, right?
So that's why they go for a tide.
Okay, I like this a lot better.
This is the more ace-pilled hero that can also teamfight and still set up for all of the things that Mars can.
It's worse at teamfighting than Mars, which is crazy to say.
Or maybe worse at pick-offs is a better way of putting it.
But better at being like the tanky run-in-there aura builder who's farming a lot.
And this is bread and butter for ace.
I think I'm leaning towards Medusa or Lunar just for the free farm aspect of the tide matchup
But then you are putting chair of duty on like the role of how you need to do kind of everything in regards to starting fights for us
They'll do it
Yeah, they do go for the Lunar
And of course there'll be the fun debate of what you go for moonshield for tankiness into the potential tossback
Is you know for moon storm and just do a ton of damage the stats show that both right 50%
I think in this game you go to Storm and my reason for that is this is a very good axe game with the tide
Specifically and his team doesn't really have magic damage. So it's like it forces
Liquid don't need to buy BKBs because right now
With their draft I think buying pipe is acceptable on the tide and the shadow thing can kind of skip this BKB early
But if the Luna goes Azik commits and forces you to have to buy BKB on the shadow thing
And anything you buy eggs, I think it's usually better to go to the damage one and now with the huskaban on Yandex
You're meant to be seeing the embers, the voids, the storms, like insert genericy spirit mid-hero
That's probably what Chiro Junior is going to go for and then whatever's available, Nisha might take the counterpart
We still have Viper and Hootwink in the pool. Are you still worried that liquid does not have a break?
I don't think so because SF is a silver edge buyer, so they'll eventually get a break
It's not like bristles is totally unanswered.
Just cheer junior like Viper.
He doubles a bit.
Yeah, this is a good Viper game for him.
Yeah.
Um, I don't know, maybe you can bet the Lena that nations played.
You can play it once and they played it with a shot of incari.
So you could bend that if you want to pick Viper.
To decent invoker game to like tide invoker, sun strike setup,
tiny invoker, cataclysm setup.
Pretty nice.
That would be just a magical game for it, right?
Requiem tiny plus ravaging the ones I even go on then the other then you have like invoked
I mean this game has to be for a game like I'm expect I really want both teams to get these one ages. No I
Want 45 minutes minimum?
My husband too much. No, I think these are all on the cards. What about 60 minutes minimum? I?
Think we'll be too greedy. That's a bit greedy. I gotta get lucky on the tier three but throw item
He thought that was a 57% win rate.
Yeah, I mean, it should be greedy.
You're right.
Are we greedy?
T3 greedy, please.
But refreshable as well.
These drafts is making for a cinematic conclusion
to this tournament.
So Yandex definitely needs more disable.
Like, even I still respect the Viper, Ben.
It's so good against Tide.
You nullify the hero.
And Heroic picks Viper the moment they see Shadowfiend.
So all the spirits, other than Storm, are still in the pool.
as well. Storms out. All the spirits apart. Oh, so I'm one. I'm so tired. Sorry. I miss
my apology. No, I've been saying here was wrong. So I'm like, stay wrong here. That's
on me. To me, it feels like void spirits, probably probably the best, like better than
the ember. Invoker. They go for the invoker. Okay. Well, that's cool. Or please, please.
I don't even care about the analysis, please can this game go long?
Will you want to play Tiny against Invoker or would you rather play something else?
Pick something else.
Okay.
Void Spirit or...
Slaughter.
Yeah, you want to have a mid laner that kind of punishes Invoker
through the fact that, like,
you chill, you hit your creeps, and you go break into the map.
You go make moves.
Like, be the one to set the pace of the game.
For Yandex, when you have Bristle Invoker, Luna,
all three cores need to sit back, hit creeps, get an item timing,
then you invite your supports to make moves.
So, Nisha on this voicebrip, you get an early vessel,
think about Sheva that you can really dictate a lot of this game.
Anywhere you go, there's enough control to kill a hero.
So, Nisha, he did it in Game 4 in the Huskar,
dictating a lot, he can do a lot on this voicebrip.
Okay, what troubles are the teams going to run into?
Let's go for both of them.
What troubles are they going to run into?
I think their draft is loaded on stuns,
so the invoker can't really snowball some tricks as easily.
In the laning stage, there's basically just disruption set up, but if they get their timings,
I think they get really strong in this mid game.
Depending on which facet Luna's going, it looks like he's doing Moon Shield, so probably
no aggs.
Then that means they're playing for a butterfly timing, and butterfly, Invoker aggs, Bristol
gets his boots of bearing Lotus, and then they run to you, whereas Liquid, I think,
have a much faster timing like post-laning stage, and then they lose that teamfight
timing, and then they win again in the late game.
So it's like, 15 minutes, liquid.
20 to like 30 minutes.
You say 15 or 15?
15, 15.
15.
Two 15, it's liquid.
Then like the 20 minute to like 30 minutes is Yandex, and then you get to like the 40 minutes.
It's a bit liquid, but it's hard to say.
Just bait the spells out.
That's all I care about if you're Yandex.
Like try and force a bad ravage, force a bad goal, and you really need to push
the limits of your heroes.
Okay, we're going to see both teams push the limit.
That is for sure.
As we have already pushed some coaches to their limit, I would imagine it's like
of standing by with Blitz. Absolutely. Blitz is at a very long day and it's finally coming to
its conclusion one way or another. Blitz, thank you so much for your time. I know you guys are tired.
I know you've been grinding all day. How are the boys feeling in the booth? I think we're
pretty energized right now. It's really exciting because I think the opportunity to even be in
a game five after the first two games, you have to have a lot of self-belief to make it
happen, right? Because like we got blown out. There's no if and buts about it. And then
And then we have to play 70 minute game to beat them.
And it's just tough.
Well, I can definitely see that comeback here.
Do you believe in the reverse sweep?
Do you have the right draft for this?
I mean, I like our heroes a lot.
I think we have cool heroes that synergize well together.
I think we're going to get first blooded here.
But I do like our shit.
Production, a prediction of first blood.
Shall we watch together?
This is a big moment.
Here we go.
What do you think?
Would you like to cast?
Well, he's going to get disrupted.
He's disrupted.
He's stunned, Boxy!
He's gonna get...
Oh, that's a four.
Well, let's go.
Best of luck to you in this game.
I hope to see...
I'm sorry about the hiccups.
I hope to see you again at the grand final interview.
Goodbye, Blitz.
Thank you guys for watching.
Well, let's go straight to the game
with our fantastic casters.
Thank you, Slack,
sending it into game five.
This best of five.
Already seeing Boxy die as that first blood
as Liquid enter there.
What? 12 hours of play today? A long, long day for them, but they've hit their second
win. It's like when you stay up all night doing your homework assignment, and you get
a little bit tired, but 12 hours in, all of a sudden, energized.
The energy can really come flowing when you start winning games in a best of five, two
games down, and they're starting to get these wins. I mean, Dota players at this
level are fueled by that win, even more so than your average player, and even
your average player. If you have eight wins in a row here, you feel unstoppable. You want to keep going.
Two wins here in the Grand Finals. They want to make it three.
Keep on going. Keep on winning. Keep on playing Dota 2.
Chera Jr. Invoker up against the niche of Void Spirit in that middle lane.
Invoker, I've got to say, a hero I've not been impressed with through this tournament.
Yes, Cataclysms look cool. Yes, he can push out waves.
But he's a hero that wants to play that long split pushy kind of game with Void Spirit sometimes,
Especially when he gets behind and when he gets picked off
Team just falls apart. Yeah, I mean it does make sense in the you know
Prediction that the game could go pretty late
Team Liquid though are set up in a very nice way to go late game as well
Their big spells are crazy to see warlock getting run at by DM. It's walloped
The Bristol backup top set up. Thanks to Sanx's shadow demon
Shadow demon on the other hand very good here
Has looked impeccable through this tournament and has belonged in that first phase a band for a long time
Look we're allowing it slip through here as they get a little trade out
More tiny. Yeah a bit more respect bands being done
We've seen a focus more on the off lane as well
Ace gonna be playing up on this tight hunter in this game
Foxy going for the lane drag double melee lane
with that tight hunter of ace like you said
melody trying to connect for
For now the mid lane invoker is doing pretty well lasted wise, it's gonna be hard to keep
up with the deny potential of Void Spirit, he has to try not to feed away any Void Spirits
to him. Nice micro though from Chira.
Yeah, drags it back, then gets the cold snap and probably doesn't deny on the water.
Doesn't get it quite, very close.
Now it's clock for Anisha, gets his refill.
So we have to stick out in the lane, farm a little bit under his tower as that next wave arrives on his side of the river.
All quick spot for that invoker to be in, playing on the enemy side.
Always very good potential to chase him down, or like we've seen a lot from Liquid, that rotation from Boxing.
The TP into mid and look for a kill.
Pool contest on bottom, but Shakira level 2 so strong, fighting up against Tiny, who does not have a toss stun combo.
Only level 1 still in this poor Tiny.
Ace though a little stronger. Ace got to double points in cracking shells so harassment doesn't really hurt that much
That shrugs it all off
Contest the pull make sure the malady and Watson don't have complete freedom resetting that lane equilibrium
He's still bothering him a bit being chased by this. It's gonna try and fight back with a one-point in gush said he has
Clicking down malady to about half health
That's going to be that.
There's a boots difference though, Jakira has boots and Tide doesn't, so he can completely
toy with him, run back and forth.
Meanwhile Luna is free farming on lane.
Foxy just trying to aggro drag back the wave as much as possible to get away from that
bottom tier one.
And it's called playing DM.
And a regen back up with a stick.
Fordy has the ring of health, so plenty of sustain here for the bristleback, but
he's playing into double range, Chatterthin and Warlock offer a lot of damage in this lane,
but no stuns to actually catch someone. So as long as Sax is positioning is good, I think
DM and Sax are probably pretty happy up here.
It's almost more likely that Sax and DM are going to be the ones finding kills, and almost
think that it's necessary, because this Bristleback, he will fall off if he doesn't
get to have a lot of action early on where he finds kills.
water in Phoenicia. Sherrod Jr tried with a cold snap. You can't even stop that boy from getting
what he wanted, while down a bottom. Oh, Maladie losing a lot of health. Sunstreak's coming. Clips
onto Ace. Foxy's getting the distance, and it's going to be another couple of hits required to
kill him, which Watson doesn't have. So gushed up. Chase down by the tide. Watson
still in the lane, but a bit worse for where. At least Ace got a lot of other attacks on
on to him bringing him really low and there is enough mana on Tiny to toss and stun.
We're gonna bring a salve with the TP in.
He's right back to harassing.
Tiny walking back away and looks like we're already starting to prepare some stacks in
jungle.
Of course both teams are very strong at clearing out those stacks so Saksa already
has stacked ones over on the ancients in the big camp meanwhile Tiny gets started
now.
That first blood move though did get an early observer ward in this area, so they'll be able to see what's going on in those dire ancients.
And something here, you know, Chiro Junior, where the Sun Strikes Yask and launch them out into these side lanes.
Disruption used up at top. Might be a good attempt there.
Throws it out a little delayed, wanting to snipe and finish the kills, and that means it misses.
And Liquid bringing Boxy up here, turning back on to DM and Saksa.
Tossed forward with a Shadow Fiend. DM's crystal is pretty strong, getting turned on, trying to get the raise.
The Quill range is coming off cooldown but he's died before he can get it off in time!
Maledi! He's gonna come forward and forcebox you back up to the high ground as well.
TM just running at him, barely didn't get off the race there.
Just came off cooldown towards the very end.
Optimistic toss but didn't really work out for them.
Nice move by Maledi going through the gates.
Leaving Luna completely to herself is gonna be fine.
She already has nice farm advantage on bottom with the power treads.
Preach deciding they rather not be stacked.
Go back to their camps.
Disruption gonna stop this Ford spirit approaching.
There's a rude spawn bottom and envies, which looks like Ford spirit.
Probably gonna get there ahead of Boxy.
I bet you I know what happened there by the way.
I don't know, Nisha says thank you.
When you stack camps and creeps randomly turn, I think he accidentally clicked the Ford spirit.
spirit I would have to watch the replay to see it but if you accidentally deny
click on to any of your creeps or any anything at all that is allied you will
de-aggro
yeah I think you may have clicked the invoker force spirit that was right in
front of him
if you ever have mysterious stacks that don't work viewers then maybe that's
what you did you click the sentry ward observer ward lane creep what be it
That's the reason why all DIA are observable under the radiant sentry, you might get de-warded
if Yandex come into this area and has liquid look to make up some more stats for themselves.
Seven minutes in, no contesting wisdom shrines this time, a much more honorable game as everyone's playing straight
heads up in the lane, 2-1-2, no mucking around.
Now one each, one each on these power-ups but we have double support playing into the shadow fiend lane.
Looking to maybe find him.
Meanwhile, of course, Tidehunter does hit his level 6 down bottom, so having a pretty good time.
But he will not be shutting down Luna's farming speed.
That feels like the winner out of this so far. Yeah, Luna's at the top of the net worth for sure.
But Bristleback at 3,000, a great time through an off lane, and he's a hero that can definitely pick up the pace.
Oh, finding Boxie? Could disrupt him?
Gonna go for the D-Ward instead first.
Void Spirit is moving over. This is dangerous to Saxa.
It's still play around in this area if they get this bristle back to join in, but it looks like it's just Boxing and Saksa for now.
Moisture arrived, Shadow Demon disrupts himself as Malady and DM arrive.
The fatal bombs, they're gonna have a lot of damage spread, Saksa and Box are gonna trade, and their own lives with Chiratunia maneuvers in towards Nisha.
Tornado, all liquid back.
It's like aggression.
Two Paws falls dying for each other.
SF running over there trying to join and fight in the river a lot of time invested
time that Luna is not taking away from her own farm rate so we see a little bit
of a gap starting to build between the two POS ones and Luna will definitely
make a lot happen when she gets this mask madness delivered it's an 8 minute
mask madness jungling is gonna be super fast he also has ulti ready and
they're setting up on the tide they're trying to kill off the creep wave here
Yeah, both of these bother drop soon.
Destruction, kill the range creep, sun strike and eclipse.
Comes in onto ace, a burst of magic damage, brings the tide down.
And it feels like so far in this game where Yandex being able to play the more straight, ordinary setup, doing a much better job.
It's a classic combo, it's so nice.
Having Shadow Demon when you're playing Invoker with X-word focus, you have very good kill potential.
And even have a nice catch later on as well. You can disrupt into ice path
Lot of different tools they can use
But this acceleration down bottom getting to kill in the tight hunter
Built some nice farm advantage 2000 lead for now
With the clips gone though, there's a potential for a liquid to make a move through bottom
We almost have Warlock level 6 online.
Just can't get it from this creep wave up top.
At least he cracks the Grimmar, that is.
We'll see what's going to be the first tower to focus.
A lot of attention on bottom.
Yeah, S-Tanger Kira is just holding on the wave, making sure that tower doesn't take too much damage.
Not ace, full HP, not too scared when Duna doesn't have ulti.
He's just clearing the creeps and running forward.
There is Makropire though, they could bring him down though.
Alright, disruption set up.
Makropire, Ace gonna try and sidestep it, already losing a lot of his health though.
Sunstrike completely off the mark and it looks like the tide for now is safe.
He's gonna run forward back into Maladir, and Nisha's joined in to deal with a Dikiro.
A lot of damage coming in.
Or B in play though, and Ace forced to ravage, and turning onto Watson, Tide will
finally die.
Nisha, he wants this kill so bad, but the eclipse comes out, dodging him with
Disimulate runs to the door here the vision is there for the radiance so they see
Exactly where the board spread is but a tornado misses
Sunstrike it lands cheer a junior gets the takedown
Redemption frame for not being ready for the previous on strike on the disruption on tide
Gets in and cleans out the fight
Good stuff coming out from yandex
to massive core kills
Tofu, drop that payout to Gullfrey and sit to push this mid tier one a little bit.
Yeah, a little bit of damage, but tower is still completely fine I think.
They can kill off the creep wave, meet your hammer doing a good job.
And now to Gullwren to the hand of Cheriduny back, killing off the Gullwren.
Tofu trying to heal the catapult and tank for a while, but you gotta be careful there's tornado to dispel you.
Yeah, it's gonna come out now. Cheriduny with the ice wall, gonna give the clicks to Tofu.
Healing up a little bit.
Looks like Chura Jr.
Not enough of a tank to go chasing a warlock in self-sustaining.
Especially when the Voidspritz arrived and died from Boxy on this invoker.
Save out of Saxa.
Even Chura alive for now at least as the Voidspritz...
Chura's in for another round.
Has to astral step away though, so they cold snap with the Voidspritz.
Sun sprite coming.
He didn't even need it!
Ooh, that's a lot of momentum gone for Voidspritz and now...
Hello, got DM'd!
Chasing for more.
Diving tier one.
What's was joined in?
The Lunas, roaming and ganking.
Tofu, where are you? Come here, little buddy! Hiding in the trees! Are you not for much longer?
This is so cool to see from Watson. A lot of people get Masked Commanders on Luna,
they disappear into jungle, you don't hear from them for the next 15 minutes.
But this Luna, looking to join with the team, looking to make stuff happen,
even with ulti on cooldown, he saw that all they need is a little bit to tip the scales
there on mid, and they can run them over. Meet your hammer, Forge Bricks.
It's gonna be radiant to actually strike first for the mid tower for at least get the mid tower first
It's Watson's weighted dice again
Watson's weighted dice
Thanks this item
And I was like it was him right the one of the early games this tournament
He had weighted dice and he waited until tier 3 neutral to swap the items and get garbage options the entire time
Yeah, sometimes
That's what you stuck with
He does have the tough enchantment as well, which is so nice for Luna, 7 extra damage,
all the damage you can get is just nice.
Team Liquid though, not been able to cycle their ulties into some successful tower takes
or team fights for now?
11 to 4, 4000 gold lead already.
This is much more reminiscent of games 1 and 2.
11 to 4, 4k lead, Yandex coming out, letting you stay strong.
Looking very good here as they kind of flip things on Liquid.
We were expecting this tiny Void Spirit to play actively and get the job done,
but they've been met with some stiff resistance.
And aggressive moves like this, getting themselves into position to contest Wisdom Shrine and push Tier 1 Tower,
means Ace is all alone defending.
They're going behind with the Warlock, trying to catch.
Not going to go through the gate yet, and that's a smart move.
There is a ward covering the bottom ward, or bottom gate.
Radiant have vision there, Dire have vision on the top gate.
finished halberd as well on the bristleback so just respecting the right
click from shadowfiend yes interesting right we've seen this sf twice this
series go for this mask of madness hurricane pike right click damage build
so the halberd kind of made sense in that regard but okay shifted back to the
more ordinary meta build for this Kaiyashou I think it's still very
strong even against this builds but I am happy to see that shadowfiend is
going for the spellcaster hybrid style I think it is so much stronger
than the pure right-click style, which we saw pretty incapable of taking fights for such a long period of time.
That's not going to be the case here.
It feels faster.
You don't feel a necessity to farm jungle, get your next item.
That right-click build very often feels like it's an item behind where you want to be in the game.
It's constructed for a specific reason.
This build is good for fighting the 4-minute-20.
It's good very early on, and that's why you can fight performance or Rosh and get these advantages.
So already having the Kaya Asha is going to get the blink tagger before a minute 20 is done as well.
That gives you better odds for fighting for these important objectives.
And this is meant to be liquid timing.
Socks up, checking.
Pull up the high ground.
Momentary vision.
Watches the asset and the tiny
protract from that top jungle.
Not gonna see a tossback this time and Tofu just get run at, but he's gonna shuffle his little warlock legs
as fast as you can get out of there.
This is where you can feel pretty good
invading enemy jungle, taking the
slice of pie away from your opponents
while playing the lane at the same time.
Lord Spirit's giving you that additional
bit of farm which ordinarily you wouldn't be able to get.
And we're starting to see that
net worth lead build up for Yandex.
It's stagnating around 4k for quite a while.
I think it's very impressive how
Yandex have pinned Liquid from making a progressive move.
A lot of times we see Liquid, they're gonna just slam these ulties, go for something, open
up towers, get on the field, but here, yet again we see a warlock game with all tier
1 towers alive at 16 minutes, it's just, it's unheard of almost, it feels merely
impossible to defend against, but they've done it.
Those early moves by Luna, the rotations they made, Yandex, they definitely put a
stop to it.
And yeah, I mean, Jakiro and Shadow Demon have been inseparable this game, right?
They are playing in tandem for the past 10 minutes, it feels like, after going through that twin gate early on.
So it's been difficult for Nisha to find any stragglers or targets he can dive on, and get a simple kill.
I think they have to be careful as liquid as well.
If they ever lose grip of this area top, then they could go for a very fast Roche.
They're Berserback, they're SD who amplifies the damage of everything.
Even Invoker is pretty good at Roching.
Fast Roche means fast filamenta.
So now we've got Halbert and Lotus Orb on the Bristle Bank, he is in peak condition now to play forward and fight
And the quelling blade from Malonday gonna be coming out on the courier something the panel are talking about at the start of this series
It could six hours ago that ability to play the map cut trees find these sneaky warg spots, which ordinarily
Don't get de-walled it. We've seen a big pattern as well throughout this tournament
where having a happy offlaner has probably been one of the best predictor for if you're
going to have a good game or not in general as a team. I feel like that's the number
one metric. If your offlaner is getting farmed, getting a lot of stuff done, then you're
likely to take over the game entirely. You see them juicy stacks farmed here by Chira.
And this game, definitely you can say the Bristleback has been way more uncontested
than Ace. We got shut down twice in lane.
Oh yeah, 9k net worth for DM, feeling very happy about his chances.
As Watson breaks 10,000 net worth in the 18th minute.
Power Spike coming in soon though, pipe about to complete in just 100 gold over on Ace.
But might strike at him first, oh shit.
Yeah, it's not a budge, into some strike, there's no escaping for this.
You got a cloak and a ring of Taras, but you're dead, your tower's gone.
As Yandex, they bring four heroes here and start to swarm into your ancient area too.
That's so sad, 100 gold away from his key item and now you lose a building and start pressuring even more.
Meteorhammer doing some damage even to tier 2.
And you have this Bristle running at you that I don't know what Team Liquid want to do to deal with him.
You can run away, but it's still very obnoxious.
Misha, thankful he got a haste, but he's still being ice-pathed.
Lucent beam, Sunstruck, no. Shadow demon disrupt.
That breaks the combo, but with a tornado and the final touches of damage, Watson has to kill.
Cold snap was ready. Thought maybe Saksa had thrown away the kill there, but small griff?
Yeah, no, it was completely fine.
They just saw two different ways that he's going to die for sure, right?
The Sun-Strike light, it's a kill, but disruption into cold snap, also a kill.
Now, Major Hammer, going to work on this bottom tier two.
When an invoker is allowed to push this far forward, I wonder what the answer is going to be from Liquid.
My ace doesn't really want to step up. That pipe you're talking about still being completed by the tide.
Tiny teeping in towards me to play alongside tofu get some wall coverage down in this northern jungle because we want to stop
I it's stop a prep ourselves for this Rochante
See the SF intentions
Watching looking for a chance to connect with boxy. We've seen the tossback power toss someone onto the SF and how they can immediately be eliminated
I can't get the chance to do it just yet 19 minutes in
and this is liquids timing though, spare vessel with a couple of charges, pipe tied, blink
tiny, they are grouping up to try and play together. Do we expect a smoke move from liquid
to try and move into the radiant territory or do we just play behind the SF and move
towards towers?
I think they just plant themselves top with all their ulti's and just say come at us,
you know they have the warlock, they have the pipe, they have the tide ulti, they're
just gonna try and hold the top parts.
into smoke. Oh, shit's in the dark. DM. One way each. There was North West. Liquid down
South. Chirra Jr. He's out here on the wave. Start off with a jump in. Mikkei will blow
him up. Boxy gets the kill. DM sucks at trying to turn this though. Ace has rabbit ready.
Destruction delays the Tithe move. Boxy focused by DM, taken down out of the game.
towards Tide and SF now, but it's just a golem being shredded by DM, and the slow liquid SF.
Throw the fatal bombs of the Ravage out, connecting onto 4, A steps forward but doesn't really
have the artillery behind him. Nisha now arrives, blows up a courier, kills up DM, throw out
some spells to stop the advance, but Yandex already lost two cores and a support.
Very nice catch there by Nisha, finds his moment to hop in, hold him in place, has
the shield renders as well so no way that could backfire for him really.
Not with the SD ulti on cooldown. That's finally gonna give Team Liquid the first
objective of the game for them. Sure you win a team fight but more importantly you
get some follow-up. You get the tournament there.
That BKB wasn't there for Watson. They've got lots of mana drafts.
Super hydrated here from Gandex. But losing a team fight, losing that tormentor.
Liquid here with the jump on Chiro Juni to start things off.
Yeah, he was the one guy who wasn't, you know, staying with the pack.
Of course, Luna was also pretty far away. Had to TP in during the fights.
Bristol does take down tiny quite fast, but in the end, part of him to chase into the minus armor combination.
And then you get a situation where everyone gets fatal bonded, turn around on, ravaged up.
Ace with that big ulti, making sure that the endax couldn't chase and find, making the backlines.
Full reset gave time for Anisha to arrive.
Fall back in line, we have Cher Junior walking over a Ward-centric combination, they're going to see him.
Don't really have the tools nearby to kill him, we'll take advantage of this.
He's just going to defend bottom.
Oh, it's dead even, isn't it?
14-7, 1K lead.
Yandex had built up a little empire in the first 20 minutes.
But the walls come tumbling down and as liquid make their first move of the game
And now Nisha starting to feel more confident TPing with boots of travel in towards the big wave
We're gonna gather up the arcane rune and maybe pivot out into enemy ancients. So we got the first BKB
finished for Shadowfiend
Lumina still doesn't have her as a courier is still dead. I'm hunting invoker again
It's gonna join the crew
Chikiro, might not be as lucky.
Still a tier 1 tower here.
It's like Malady's TPing away.
TP over and join the smoke, so we're still being sent forward.
Very tanky targets.
Could still burst him, maybe.
Still going to go for the jump into the Requiem, toss him back into SF.
Not enough to finish him.
Now with the Eclipse and the Makropai down, they need defensive gravity golem to try
to turn.
Icepath is there and Boxing is blasted, Cataclysm is coming!
Not quite gonna land but Tofu cannot contend with the Glaives of Luna!
Tons of damage coming the way if Ace and Tofu cheer up Junior picks up the double!
They just have to bail, quick TP outs, get to safety. Very unfortunate start for them there.
On Team Liquid they had 3 seconds cooldown on Fatal Bonds.
He had everybody in front of him. He could have bonded 5 heroes, but they were still on cooldown.
had it I think the entire fight would have been Team Liquid.
That is a very bristle back to say it's Bondi Trevor and that kills them all.
Yeah even if he gets rid of it like watch the positioning of the warlock how
beautiful that ulti could have been or a fatal one could have been.
As he walks in very soon we'll see it back in life of course Luna got
the Aegis here. If he had Bond here dude. Man.
All of them were in front of him but he has cooled up now he gets it back
but now it's already too late. It's far too late.
Yeah that was really clutched. And not not perfect execution on a
He just shreds him, coming in with the Elacrity as well as the Mask of Madness, Shadowblade,
Luna hitting so fast. Good take down there in punishment after the bristleback was
killed off. A lot of spells used to bring him down and they just get brought down
by a beautiful catch. Both teams really playing to their strengths looking for
these openings. Nice spell casting for both sides. It feels like Yandex flutes
this ability to react. Save people with the Shadow Team and tornado to this
joint from the fight. Lots of tools here to make Liquid's initiation kind
difficult Luna is big she's so ahead the timing here on the ages having to be
to be as well in the silver she's not far a toss cat solo kill hang on there's the
cold snap tornado forward nearly predicted the move of Nisha not quite
from Chira Junior but bloody close if it wasn't for that he's through and I
think it may have caught him Dallas very nice attempt by Chira there's no
way he's still hunting is that Nisha is half HP he's under a ward tiny might
go on him and toss him back instead.
But the rest of Yandex are here.
So they initiate on Invoker, toss him in towards Nisha.
The damage comes through, the ravager rides.
Nisha's about to die.
Tira-Tudi being focused, but the backups come in.
Cavalry comes over the hill.
Yandex can battle back.
Ace forced away as the wall lock puts the upheaval down
and slows the team fight down.
The Invoker is calling back, guys.
Don't commit to a big fight.
He has no HP.
Just go in the region up.
Gonna be completely fine.
that was ravaged used over on A's as well.
But it also still feels so strong.
Shadowblade Invis, ages for the better part, three minutes.
Boxy.
Oh, he spots Boxy.
Blank and tumble.
One reason why this Shadowblade Luna build is so nice,
by the way, is that she has night vision.
So during the night time, you can run in,
you very easily find people who are being sneaky like this.
Now, of course, the DPS is never bad
and in this game, there's incentive
with the Tidehunter as well,
But even just generically, even if there wasn't a tie-dumpter,
Silveredge has proven to be a very strong item on Luna's, like a fourth item.
I'm pressing high ground here as well.
Luna sends an illusion forward, the classic SD-Luna combo, not as strong as it used to be,
but still able to get a bit of chip damage onto that tier three.
I mean, Alacrity as well, doing some work.
Nice high ground push.
Let's just prep work for a future push.
First Aegis is almost never going to be used to take out the high ground.
Watson is trying to hunt Mechay down here, thinking he would be farming some of these neutral camps on his way back from Lane.
And realizing that the SF has gone through the Twin Gate.
Oh, he gated back again.
Mechay!
Sticking around down bottom, of course, he's also heading towards that Shadowblade.
Wants the similar potential to set up.
A liquid amassing all of their forces down here.
Chiro Junior and Sax are I don't think they've shown top now. They saw Esa was here because he de-word a sentry so they're aware of his
Location so they could send the other two through the twin gate and come wrap around on liquid and it seems like
Liquid is gonna give up on this spot no reason to contest over the area
And they saw three heroes with the observer word so they can back out safely
Play away from unboxing might not get away from it though. What's the center down?
This Luna right on his tail was a short distant blink, but probably enough to get away
30 seconds for the wisdom and right now liquid not impositioned hold on to their bottom wisdom rune
45 seconds left from ages, so it is just play keep away
Don't entertain ahead on fight right now wait for ages to expire go for some big five-man smoke dump your alties in on to yandex
It's not a comfortable spot though, when you have all these teamfight heroes and you can't take a teamfight.
It loses a lot of its power.
You're just being splitpushed and poked out as well.
Like Invoker's sitting there, sending four spirits out,
immediately keeping top to try and catch a hero lurking out on the map.
Wait, spirit and tides, quite close together.
Goes to walk on the creep wave. I'm pretty sure Nisha knows.
Yeah, he... he will just get to safety.
Not gonna get caught, of course he had the BKB January, so probably best case scenario for Yandex would be forcing that.
Well that's ages down.
Okay, so he's queuing up the Eye of Scotty on Watson right now. I kind of like it, just survive through the initial bursts.
I do think that going for a butterfly satanic is never bad though. I shift his quick bite to satanic next.
Okay.
I'm gonna clear out that mid wave.
Yandex are coming in hot blow. They see Ace as their smoke breaks and like you said Luna with
his night vision sees everything. Liquid have no idea. Liquid saw Invoker running past though.
He was not smoked and ran by the ward and sentry so they're trying to set up a trap for him.
Radiant scan. They killed off that TP from the void spirit.
As the cats come in Luna just gonna cut the creep wave.
No, we're making some funny noises.
We're all playing a little bit of naga here, cutting waves, sending illusions.
That's so annoying, isn't it?
Liquid have to come back and maintain all these lanes, pruning away the radiant weeds.
I keep attacking their tier 3s.
The radiant have way better goals to push with the illusions and the forge spurts.
And then they can send him bristleback, which is just an incredibly hard target to
go on.
The same is not true the other way around.
Yeah, you have Tide.
ideally want him to be a hard target to bring down, but between the Silver Edge or even just
getting held in place by Estiolty, it's not really that easy for Ace to play forward.
This makes it way easier for Yandex to play with the Twin Gates, set up for Roshan and
Tormentor, these objectives much easier for them to get to.
And Void Spirit, he's walked into Malady here, but he misses the ice path, and
Nisha gonna get some distance Saksa have the Sun strike a little too far behind
It's gonna be fine for now get some so far over there. Those are his astral steps spent. He's got one that's recharged
It's building it is still coming into position though building towards doctrine to have more effectiveness
Blink on tide is looking for something. Oh
The SF tide combination it could be fast. It could be real fast
They don't know the vision though. They don't know who's up this high ground and sd illusions
They're gonna move forward to scout DM on the left side. Nisha is in on to shadow demon trying to blow him up the toss
He goes wrong with a rabbit is good onto three
Cataclysm's gonna come in what's in terms of the ace they've blown up him and boxy a
Bioback from tiny looking to come back down bottom has a record from Mickey finish back the invoker
He doesn't have enough on his own to deal with Jera junior and DMs on the run forward Nisha
Disengaging they have lost to bought back one Nisha after stepping five seconds needs to get over the bridge
Yandex don't have the control as if going in and around looking for an angle
He's with the tiny they bought back boxy to make a play here, but I don't think liquid can stick around
You know liquid bought back into this and they're still gonna be the ones running away
The losers of the fight that looked like it could be beautiful SF just was missing from that
They got a beautiful start with a three-man catch, but the follow-up requiem wasn't there
got caught by the invoker and that's tormentor for Yandex
I would love to see them maybe move a gem over on invoker so he can find the SF when he's running around like this
neither team has picked up a gem just yet but we're in that territory where both of them are definitely thinking about it
40 seconds for next Roshan
That's why Yandex gonna be eyeing up in the near future.
DM getting closer to that nullifier that he has queued.
It's not a bad item here as well.
It's gonna be quite nice to get the extra armor against Shadowfiend.
A lot of times we always focus on what you can nullify, what you can dispel, but it's
just a nice tanky item as well for Bristolback to have.
Peared up with Lotus Orb, he's gonna have so much armor, it'll be hard to burst him once the BKB is active.
So risky from Jera Junior, playing forward like that into areas where Liquid have observers and sentries already set up.
He's trying to sneak in, but there's a Watcher.
Oh, the sentry just died as he walked up.
I think they saw him though, for a split second.
Yeah, they scanned.
They know Yandex were in this area.
Chateauphine in biz
Gavik smoke breaks and voids great gets on for Saksa
VKB up and a ravage from Ace turns on the DM to blow him up
They're in Walsons face Luna's in trouble twice a turn
But satanic eclipses but cause stick on a target
Mikkei disengages Ace is tanky but can he withstand this with Nisha by his side
The dealt with Walson Luna pops the mat up and she's dead
Liquid they are looking to cheer a junior here
Has to pay for Mikkei but the cataclysm's good
blows up Ace, needs ya one more move and a twist forward, gets the kill!
What a beautiful reaction by Liquid, they see two heroes immediately jump it, follow through as well,
and not even Luna could react with a BQB in time there.
I think he was trying to hold it because of his panic, but that also meant that he couldn't
help or deal any damage until the combo was done. And now straight into Roshan!
The lead from Yandex completely flipped as Liquid now, the ones in the lead!
That was such a fortunate break right there, Void Spirit running behind and then tiny using that to jump in.
I can't press it off first, wasn't already down to half and has to try and stay tannic and chase a Shadowfiend who's so speedy!
Yeah, and then hitting into a Tidehunter who has so much damage, block and armor, you're not really life stealing that much.
Not at all.
And ultimately just couldn't find a way out of that one before the BKB runs out and he goes down.
I mean the mid difference, having Nisha on his voidspert able to get onto the back lines, find targets, start the fight without really committing too much
frustration for Saxa as he was the one who got opened up on
Yeah, difficult, their positioning just got compromised. It's hard when you run behind someone in a smoke attempt, right?
The Luna was leading the way, they're following her, but then the smoke breaks on you behind her
That means you're in a very awkward spot because they're basically pincering around you
You're no longer behind, you're in front, all of a sudden everything's inverted
The back line becomes the front line and they do not want to be the tanks that shouted even in J'Kiro.
The sky is falling!
And they need mobility tools, I think.
We see both the supports on Radiant queuing up a blink dagger.
J'Kiro, not known for blink dagger, but I think you need it.
You just can't get caught like this.
Yeah, you can't get blink tossed or blink either, remnanted.
Astral stepped on.
It's also one of those games where A on this couldn't really help you, right?
If you get jumped caught as in J'Kiro, you're not getting out of there.
Dead is dead.
Yeah, might as well just play towards mobility and maybe even aetherlands after the link dagger could be big
Oh, momentum broken for Yandex, net worth lead gone, no aegis for luna this time around
Yeah, the ones who have to slow things down and try and play keep away from liquid who absorbed the entirety of the map right now
We're level 25 and 35 minutes in for Mika
It's such a fast timing, he has to shadow race already attacks
That is going to be a big damage out of this. Go for the Swift Blink build.
Me sure.
He's in behind enemy lines here.
His parachute's in behind for this Rodovaco's Cataclysm dodged for now to simulate double-step BKB TP off he pops.
Space created. Completely fine for him. Gets to safety.
Cooldown's used. Revealed all his opponents and meanwhile Team Liquid enjoying the map. Getting pressure in.
Just about a ding dong dash.
Yeah. Ditching away.
He's just pranking them man, and he's still playing forward.
Misha is a psychopath man.
No BKB is just running into him again.
They want to fight this.
Alright guys, two steps back.
Gonna do the two-step move on them.
Got a sentry, saw the invoker momentarily.
Good disengage from the Andex.
For now, Liquid is holding that Lightground Observer Ward,
protecting their vision.
While Void's for it, he's going to go and push out the lane.
You know, he's also been pushing out lanes.
Tofu. He's 13,700 net worth. This is Warlock. 120 CS. Is that a vase? He is. Yeah, he's
the new POS3. We welcome Tofu on the Bostory goodness gracious.
Hey, Warlock's one hell of a hero. 121 last hits. Fatal Bones have been doing their thing.
We see Boxing leading the way, looking for a tossback.
Now he's got a jump on the Invoker. Ravage looks good as well, but the BKB.
Shira Jr. gets away from the Requiem toss play.
Now DM moves on the boxy, Tidy being walloped by the Bristol.
There's the Shadow Fiendress stand and deliver,
but the Eclipse damage of the Glaives
bounces and kills off Tide and SF.
First life for Mikkei down.
Nisha does pick up a double though,
while Walsh goes toe-to-toe.
Requiem countered by the BTB.
Nisha, he's off the Saxie in the back,
but DM and Walsh and they're gonna hold
this defensive posture.
Defensive BKB, TP out.
Gonna pull himself to safety.
Hopefully we're gonna get out there too.
Yeah, this is Blink Dagger of course, farmed as he is.
I think they got a little bit lost whether they were going to Tossback or Ravage, which one happens first.
No, the miscommunication was on Tiny and SF. They were not in sync there.
The Tossback onto SF was clean, it was beautiful, but I don't think it was ready for it on Micke.
He didn't start channeling the ulti even as the Invoker came flying in.
If we do see it back, we will see, like, exactly where it went wrong.
The Invoker was just set up on, but there was no follow-through.
And then Ace was going for like his zoning damage to make sure to get the kill of the invoker
Yeah, and then Luna just stood and delivered her DPS is really really impressive at this point back down to dead even in this game
Once at this point and we do get a replay of what happens
You can see a toss back initially here jump is good. Yeah, look SF1 to run up and hit with the silver edge
But didn't start channeling his ulti then
And then from here on Watson is like, okay, I'll just start auto attacking the biggest
thing I can see.
That happened to the ace.
Unfortunately for him, the silver edge completely broke his tankiness.
Bringing that lunar orbit takes literally no damage.
Nice cancel of the blink as well on the Aegis Respawn there.
Saksa the little details, you know, sent a shadow poison as the Aegis Respawn was
happening.
Couldn't stop the BKB TP, but still good sign there for me and X as they hold on
Bring this one back within arms reach
It's still fully possible for liquid to just absolutely wipe a fight if they do get the combination down
They just need to tighten up their communication beyond the same page with everyone
We're 12 hours in the water
They're a team with stamina Gareth, I believe in them
I've been energised.
I mean they said it themselves, they feel energised after having won two games in a row and I believe it.
Had they lost, you know, the last two games, if they won the first two and then lost two, I would be a bit more doubtful.
But here, I'm a believer man, I think they can do it.
And obviously, it's a comeback story. It's easy to root for the underdogs going through the lower brackets.
Bouncing back like the bunny with a batterie.
At the same time though, Yandex, they've just been looking so damn good. The last two games didn't go their way, but the first two, they were extremely dominant.
And now they've got another one of these game changer items, Scythe of Ice Invoker.
If they're able to get that hex on the Void Spirit, Shadow Fiend, before the BKBs come out, they have plenty of damage to blow them up.
Not just one, they have 4% of the Scythe. Plenty of defensive toss back, trying to protect Nisha.
Void Spirit in a macro fire though, blow it up and killed. Watson is going to step back.
Allow the Brasaulder front line scout and maybe get a catch.
Liquid disengaging as Voidspreeze dead for 90 seconds.
That's a trade, they both take out the mid laner and then shake hands and run away.
So yep, make them look bad.
But yeah, four Power Spike items coming in at the same time for Radiant.
I think Team Liquid were lucky to get that even of a trade.
The blink of the SD, blink Chikiro, butterfly on Luna and hex of course on Invoker.
Back to farming for a little while. Back to waiting for Roshan.
A minute to go, at least. Back to guessing he's going to win late game.
What are we, 30 minutes? 31 minutes away from the end of the game?
Minutes 72 is when Liquid say yeah, okay.
I'm closing out one way or another.
I really love that we're in the fifth game of Grand Finals, Gareth.
And in this game, there's no clear winner for late game.
There's no draft win, there's no game domination. No, I agree for sure.
Almost always we just say oh this team just needs to drag it out. They just need to get there
I don't know dude. Who's gonna win late game? I mean both teams have insane potential
There's crazy potential from both of them
So I don't want to give it cleanly that I think Team Liquid have the advantage
Maybe they're draft is like simpler to execute late game. Yeah, but I do not wonder as underestimate that Bristol back late game as well
That hero becomes a freak of nature. Oh, yeah monstrous. You're right from a bash. Yeah
massive damage could come out of the M
And Luna, of course, leading the way in the network. She's already in the late game.
Behind SFN level maybe, but keeping pace with the network.
Not quite level 25 yet.
We see the Aeon discs are starting to come into a quick buy.
We see Moist Spirit saying, you know what? It's no fun getting bursted.
I'm queuing up the Aeon discs.
That's another one of those games as well, where the initial jump matters so much.
Vying for control of a vision over these high grounds, I've already talked about Malady with that quelling play to try and give that slight advantage over towards Yandex.
But I think Boxy is the secret weapon here from Liquid and has been on this tiny. His initiations, his jumps, allowing Void Spirit to follow through.
And now he's got a BKB to protect himself, he can more freely enter the fights.
the fights. That's true. Not so easy to stop him anymore. Not a single thing, just stopping
him from getting out. So we'll allow him to go a little bit more aggressive. But Roshan's
alive. Reasonably quick spawn. Big lines being drawn by both teams, man. Look at that.
Watson perfectly circles in where all of Team Liquid are playing. I think they're
reacting to this. Smokes is five. Leading with the crystal back though. Who do they
they connect on what's the vision gonna be like.
Ops, no sentry, placed.
Bristle's in.
There's the void spirit making a jump on Bristle.
Avalanche for no task, disruptions are safe,
Shadowfiend in trouble, Hexten slain.
Liquid lose their SF and boxy, yes, BKB,
but Dying has income's Yandex,
three heroes already taken down,
and no buybacks with Roshan's theirs.
Rosh is theirs, but 90 seconds on their stuff
is more than just Rosh.
this devastating film they can go for more. Look into catch anything first but...
I mean, I'd say scramble, push lanes, get the waves out, try and stop them because
the line's drawn by Watson saying screw it go down mid, run to throne.
Yeah, Watson, that line was not unintentionally drawn all the way to
throne. Luna is one hero that does not care about her mega creeps. She can go
straight and throw even with the bonus armor. Ages for Watson. I'll see it back.
Liquid, they tried to go on this bristle.
No tossback, they knew the save was coming.
That was beautifully done. Good read by Yandex, man. They knew exactly what was happening.
And that's Scythe of Ice.
But Luna is in. The first tower is down. Racks are falling immediately. 40 seconds still in the clock.
Bouncy bouncy glaives.
It's Watson's call where they want to go right now. Looks like they're going to go for the racks.
Play for Megas.
30 seconds, no SF.
Respect the tiny tossback.
I think if it was any other hero that may have gone for the third play even they're gonna go for a second lane of barracks
Tofu on the right hand side 20 seconds before Mickey's alive
That's a lot of time actually
Yandex the chance to go for mega creeps now 45 minutes in Watson swings up the top up evil place
10 seconds to go before Shadaphine's back a
A window of opportunity for team yandex to take down mega creeps to simulate the poke the toss back in
Watson BKB's up and focuses the buildings
Objective-based gaming, but they can't quite do it. Nisha's in onto Watson was BKB poking ace for the rabbit
Trying to deal with Watson first place for the hero Mickey cost it for the requiem the loon is going to respawn though
They killed the Asia the buyback's up and Mickey's down
The Shadowfiend's gone for a hundred seconds!
Nisha's still fighting, trying to hold it.
It's a 3v4 though!
Invoker can buy back!
Nisha always can get purged up, the Simile's the high ground.
He's gonna run away from DM as the Bristleback bullies him back!
They don't have a way to buy back.
He spent too much gold.
Two heroes down.
Invoker, they could buy back and end this if they only knew.
Luna's gonna go for tier four towers.
Yandex so close to victory now.
now they just have send it if you don't bring down Luna you're gonna lose everything they have to deal
with Watson the disarm on voidspring the old bachelor moving forward eight trying to hold the line with
an upheaval from tofu as Yandex they're going to back up and disengage they have so much gold to
spend they could all in go for this but it's a risky move still they're gonna back up and say
you know what we have like 40 000 gold to spend or something look at their net worth right now
It's insane the amount of gold they can spend, and just hold on for a little while longer.
I know it would be hype to go for the immediate finish, but the Undex, they don't want to flunder this.
I mean, they know the Liquid don't have the best ways of dealing with Mega Creeps.
They don't want to fluff this game five as they are 22k to the good.
Mega Creeps up.
I'm so close to victory they can taste it.
Yeah, it's really their game to throw right now and they don't want to do it.
Liquid though, late game kings, they brought back worse games than this, Gareth.
They've done it before, 16 minutes to go, and they get one more chance to turn it around here.
It's a horrible spot, it's an awful position, I wouldn't wish this upon anyone, right?
Sitting here, game number five, mega creeped up.
What's that game changer though? What's the play? What's the item? What's the idea for Liquid?
It's just expution. Toss.
They have combinations. The key though is Shadow Demon, right? Ice on Saxa. If he gets to save people, it doesn't matter if you coordinate or not.
He's gonna blink and disrupt. He has Etherlands too. He can reach no matter who it is, so the key has to be somehow someone has to stop Saxa from saving.
So I guess Nisha has to be that key to unlock the problems.
2% chance for liquid. So 1% for Nisha to find the Shadow Demon and 1% for Boxy to toss someone into Requiem.
That's what they've got left.
That's how it works, that's the math.
Right there.
I mean, they do have the heroes who can do it, though.
Void Spirit can jump in there, Tiny can get in there.
I think Tiny has to deliver SF some food, though.
He has to toss something towards SF or SF towards something.
But Void Spirit, his job is finding Saxa.
It's so, so damn difficult, though.
Saxa's positioning has been very, very impressive this game.
At this tournament overall, and have no buyback on Nisha's Void spread for five minutes.
And he's the hero who's been going in deep, opening the eyes of his team.
No buyback on SF, 900 gold away, unlikely to have it.
As Yandex rally around Chiro Junior in this middle lane, pressing towards the dire base.
They're about to have mass buyback in just a second, Shadow Demon will have his as well.
With five buybacks, they're definitely happy to look for pick offs even in the enemy base.
DM stepping up
Make a pre-reactions
Alacrity Ford Spirit sent to the tier fours
They got Lunar Glaives on one hand, Ford Spirit on the other
Lunar Illusion sent forward and a tier four tower is the prize
And DM just de-warding a bit, running in with the gem
Trying to remove any vision to still have vision down bottom though
And a ward outside their lane on top
Box is smoked up
They're expecting this to be a commitment.
I think maybe Yandex are just hanging around and looking though.
I don't know if they want to commit for the full throne push.
That means the smoke could backfire.
They're being very deliberate with their positioning.
All three waves are being pushed in.
It's such a vulnerable spot when you have mega creeps coming in all the time
because you have to show heroes.
You have to commit and stand and just fight creeps
any moment you can get jumped.
I mean, when you do push out the waves and you smoke off,
it's very telegraphed.
Where you're going, where you're heading, how you're approaching.
I mean, they didn't fight this hard and this far into tournament to go out with a whimper.
Boxie tries, goes for an attempt to jump and toss back, but doesn't land the fish he wanted.
Bristle back, remnant it in towards the base, but DM is alright.
And not the hero they want, difficult one to catch.
Gonna get away from that idea with some lines being drawn by radiance.
Have they gone to the smoke?
Yes, they do.
pretty telling moments they want to go in behind from that top lane the wave is
approaching liquid have to contend with mid boxy is trying to reveal around that
area but they're sneaking all the way up sitting inside the smoke sacrifice to
start it off and make the jump Watson goes forward looks for two through his wall
off while the tie is blown up he's got my back doesn't deem boxy can return
well Nisha he was disrupted momentarily BKB but then pushed back boxy
with a toss, finds Saksa, but Saksa has a BKB!
It breaks free!
He can't get a shadow deal and now liquid is rubble.
Boxy, Sunstruck, whacked down by DM,
nullified and the time back of Tiny.
Nisha, Mckay, they found Mardi, yes, but another hex.
Jiro Jr. looks at the voidsprint,
the break by the bristle, they're fueled up DM.
Watson, he wants to fight, but he doesn't have a backup.
Liquid have held.
Oh, nice catch by Nisha.
A random pullback for the BKBs up for Watson.
Steps forward with the Alacrity! The damage!
They came! Full spec! I found him!
They're gonna back out.
Luna completely out of mana. No BQB as well.
Playing it safe. They did force a buyback, force some reaction, but you can see the damage from Team Liquid.
Liquid can breathe.
Liquid can kill.
Bringing down the Bristol back in a very short time there with the Silveridge breaking, quick focus.
Don't think he expected to go down as fast as he did.
I mean, that's no ulti's for Liquid left and a dieback on Tiny.
You've got what, 100 seconds with no Ravage or Golem or a minute for Requiem?
I mean, it's a timing to try and abuse, but Bristleback will have to respawn naturally.
They don't really want to artificially buy him back into existence.
Big items being completed as well by the way.
I don't think we've talked about this throughout the game,
but Hagrid and Scepter on Shadow Demon would be massive if you can get it.
He's only a little bit away, 1300 gold.
Get to break in two charges.
I mean it's one thing to have a silver edge of course to break the tide, but it's so much easier to break people.
Once you have the Agadamns on SD.
And Agadamns on this Luna, right? We've seen Agadamns as a second or third item sometimes for Luna.
Completely skipped this game by Watson until now.
Yeah, it's a nice pickup.
I honestly think that the Shard is really strong as well, but we see him prioritize the Agatomceptor over at first.
Liquid, they're allowed to reset. Get the Tiny back onto the battlefield.
Bi-back stage is so important right now.
Invoker's still farming towards Refresher as well. Obviously he wants to hold Bi-back gold available.
It's gonna be quite a while until he gets it.
But all but the Tiny's gonna have it.
Yeah, and still Liquid are just on this maintenance duty, push out lanes, don't go out, sit in
your base, they've been stuck here for a while and they're gonna have to probably stay stuck
here for a while longer.
52 minutes in.
Playing Info's team survival.
This is still early game by Liquid Metrics though.
I should just wave after wave of creeps coming their way.
They thrive here, Gareth.
That's only 20 minutes to go.
We're only, what, two thirds of the way into the game?
Well, 25 Shadow Demon, though, double disruption available for Saksa.
I mean, Roshan is 30 seconds away now as well.
Aegis, gotta be a very nice thing for them to lead in with Luluna later on.
I could see them attempt to do this slow, soft push back towards Throne with Ford Spirits and SD Illusions.
We could also see the full all-in that we've seen before, right?
It's the dangerous part where they might just go straight for the Ancient.
They do have BKBs, they have crazy right click damage, Liquid have to be so cautious not to get your thrown disperse.
Yeah, you gotta be delicate with your glyph usage.
And maybe even with like warlock golems, because they don't have anything else that can pierce BKB right now.
If they all BKB up and just focus on your thrown, you need to have the golem at least to stop that.
Slam them down.
Objectives for Yandex.
Tormentor top left, Roshan bottom right.
TP to the outpost, they can gather up everything, they're birthright, get into the pit, neck down to big man.
Okay got the shard as well from the tormentor, if he does finish up the refresher we might see a whole lot of worksperts in the enemy base as well, if he connects.
Double damage rune, spawn bottom, as if by design.
The destiny rune. Chulson by Gaben.
It's after poking at the Void Spirit.
They put the Refresher Shard on the Luna so she has second rounds of BKB and Ulti.
Double damage Luna coming towards your base.
Liquid, four buybacks available and they're going to need them.
Swift Smoke, a move to reposition.
It's time going from the other angle.
Refresher ult is ready on Warlock so we've got multiple rounds of Golems.
If the remnant down at bottom, he's gonna slow the advance at least for now, but Yandex waited out.
Or they're moving in.
Here we go for Ace.
Anyone they see?
We go for Mikkei, the Hex, the Damage! Mikkei down, has to buy back!
Liquid lose their Shadowfiend immediately.
Cataclysm, then comes in and picks up Ace!
Already hitting the Throne?
Facking out a bit though, resetting.
Happy with the kills.
tiny smote and looking for something but gandex won't give it to them no freebies for liquid they
forced the shadow fiend buyback so win condition box checked gandex man they're so disciplined right
now poke and get big kills force a buyback get out again reset hey it doesn't think right it's not
passive discipline it's aggressive discipline they go get the job done realize there's
nothing more to be had they retreat fall back yeah they got the method of a strike team
Nisha buying the big item.
Full rapier coming out for him. He's got to sell off the spear vessel. It's served its purpose.
Forged spear is sent forwards.
Nisha needs to defend the throne with everything he's got.
Put his body in harm's way. Shows the rapier bow.
Oh, the banner, the catapults. You can't kill the catapults without going all the way out there.
The banner's so far away. It's got like a thousand range.
Oh, Boxy, toss up, eat the remnant, messes it up a little bit.
Disruptions save as Borson moves in onto Mickey, Shadowfiend dropping low against the Fountain, Throne half HP, dropping low.
Ping it out, take the base, they're trying to back up and reset as the rape is dropped on the deck.
Saksa got the kill on Nisha, now a Torsback. Saksa disrupts himself, Tidey's down, Ace in the ice path, but Average comes too late.
The Throne, the Lunar tries to deal with it, first life gone. Liquid holding on, but Yandex has so much left to attack.
The LUNA, the BKB, the Refresher out, they've got it done!
Yandex have taken it!
A Game 5 victory!
Ooh, that was close! The LUNA got the Refresher out, barely gets the next BKB and hits away with the rapier.
Nice valiant attempt there by Team Liquid to defend, but Yandex man, look at them!
What a performance!
Rebel in your glory! It took everything you had!
All the way through five games!
They were so dominant game one, so dominant game two, and then Team Liquid.
They come in the dark horse, fight back game three and game four.
Ending in five, we get an absolute battle, but Yandex, they just come out ahead.
The second wind kicked in. It looks shaky for Yandex, but you're right.
They held out, stuck to their guns. Incredible stuff, impeccable performance.
Beautiful stuff out of Team Yandex. Bringin' out that Lunar as well.
And we see the sportsmanship go over immediately to your opponents. They were here for a long battle. Give it up for Liquid too, man
What a day they have. They've been playing Dota for like 13 hours and a competitive level today. The focus
Yeah, I mean it has to be mentally draining to our next level man. Blood, sweat and tears and sometimes you don't get a prize at the end
But we're here to witness the team Yandex, the victors. Your champions are P. Jill Velakia season 7
and
ladies and gentlemen, your
Well done everybody at home so glad to see you guys incredible day of some hard
Dota you took the liquid out at 30 it took about it's 60 you took about 80
every type of liquid was destroyed we're gonna start talking to you hello
cheer junior listen a lot of people now they're just calling you CJ the junior
is done that's two victories this season you're a man now that's how we feel
So how do you feel?
Bro, I feel so great.
First trophy.
It's so amazing.
Absolutely.
Any words out there?
You've had so many fans growing over these tournaments.
Everyone's so pumped to see you grab this trophy.
I mean, I like to play in this team.
I really much.
I'm happy.
And to my fans, guys, I love you.
Thank you for cheering.
I see everything.
Ah, thank you so much.
Incredible performance.
Absolutely amazing.
Thank you.
What's up?
Hello.
How are you?
taking your spot on the MMR leaderboard, but now we know who's the best baby brought here proved how you feel it
good
You were really a force in all of these games in this entire journey you have been such a rock for this team
What do you think about your boys? How do you feel in this moment? I don't know. I'm just very happy
First they understood and in the foot we are juju
But then the full comeback full communication and now we won the extension
Yeah, I don't know. I'm still at it.
All right, brotherhood until the end.
Thank you so much. Incredible game. Thank you so much.
Saksa, hello. Good to see you, sir.
How are you doing up there?
Absolutely incredible squad.
You mean you built yourself here, huh?
What do you feel about the boys?
I think they're great to work with.
They're like high, super high skill individual players.
They listen a lot and it's just a pleasure to be in this team.
Absolutely. They say you can't teach old dog, new trickster.
one of the oldest guys that's still out there kicking ass here today absolutely
destroying these zoomers what do you think about the future of Dota 2 you
want some new guys to come up for you to spank now of course I mean I'm still
gonna be there you know five years from now probably that's my man thank you so
much for such incredible series DM DM ladies and gentlemen the man himself the
hardest position the one position nobody wants grab it in the off lane
You're here. Let's get this out of the way. Any words for your old teammates that kicked you from the last team?
I mean much work for them
Much work they need to do to like be here, I guess
Winners spot. So yeah
Absolutely a lot of work to catch up to your boy. Well, how do you feel now being on this team helping these boys out?
Get this victory. It's got to be some pretty interesting emotions
I think it's just fine fact like I'm gonna be first actual EPL player who won a tier one tournament like me now
You know, so there's just gonna be a fine fact right absolutely and by the way
If anybody is looking for a fantastic guy to have on their team. Are you open to joining a team here?
No, I'm already coming in team. You already have a team. All right fantastic. Well, put those applications away, sir
Incredible job. Thank you so much for coming in and making this such a special tournament. Appreciate you and the man himself
The coolest cucumber ladies and gentlemen mr. Ice over here
I'm just gonna let you talk sir. Well, how would you like to wrap this up with your boys? I think it's just a regular day in the job
I'm just a regular day in the life for our boy here was anything a challenge did anything shake you
What is next for you in the squad?
Next for me is more tournaments of course maybe it's yeah, maybe I
I think we could have won 3-0 if my team didn't win the number 3.
Well, we have a lot to teach your team. Hopefully they're not as bad next time.
And I guess I'll see you on the TI stage as well.
You may return to your team, my friend.
And ladies and gentlemen, it is time to put our hands one more time.
Gentlemen, please grab your Pogging Orgasmic Gyrocopter.
Grab them! Yes!
Whoo!
Yeah, they could have done it for real!
I don't know what the heck!
Melody's like, what a character, man!
I'm so glad these guys, one, they have given the best interviews.
They are like so next level in all of their play too,
and then you're like, these guys, they just cook.
They're just cooking only Dota stuff,
and they somehow cook in the interview.
It's like, come on!
Straight out of a comedy sketch.
From CJ, just the happiness, you know,
the the vibes all the way to the other end where I get just another day in the office.
You got a little bit of everything. But what a road Yandex has had here at PJ Malachi to take
the championship and I want to first focus on those grand finals because game five,
eight looked a little hairy still. It was still a very close grand finals, buddy.
Yeah, I think this was the probably closest game of the whole grand finals. Yeah.
Very back and forth the whole time. It was like one fight team liquid wins,
One fight, Yandex wins. One fight, Team Liquid wins.
It just was so back and forth that early game was all Yandex.
But I think this was the first time that the game kind of broke open.
Liquid made this really nice smoke play as the same time as Yandex
and gave behind them the tournament timing.
And you're like, okay, Liquid's kind of coming back.
And then they kept snowballing, snowballing, snowballing.
And then Yandex struck.
Just like we heard in the interview from Watson,
right, the idea that they won, they didn't really enjoy it.
And then they fixed it.
They got 0-2'd by heroes down there.
Yeah, they fixed their mistakes.
I think that is exactly how they win this game, Farmer's Law.
because they're in a good position, they overextend a couple of times like taking a fight once your invoker is dead
but then they realize, guys, this is how we need to win the game. They clearly formulate a very good plan.
It's a wonderful back and forth game, but I think Yandex has kept improving
fight after fight to truly understand how they can just, you know, demolish Liquid by the end of this one.
And I think not just blitzing the Throne is also a very good call.
Yeah. Especially against a team that has had so many successful Throne defenses into comebacks.
like, you can't risk that. We have criticized Chira Jr. for his, you know, the diving into
death with no buyback. And he said, you know, my coach helped me. I just had to get good
and just not die, not do that and be disciplined. And they were incredibly disciplined in this
game. Even the way that Watson was like splitting the illusions to run it around
the different angles that Liquid would take to kill the illusions to slowly put
pressure on the throne where they place the banner after securing all the roaches
like man that banner range is absolutely insane in the late game yeah
oh yeah you love to see it and that even to be fair also yeah
relief that was from both sides we're happy there's no one sign is like a
thank you this is over I can't feel it from fact so it's in this game on the
ST there's multiple times that liquid family like beautiful jumps getting the SD plus one the DM and saxa getting comboed a couple times
Like you know, I think it's like to career. I think in his mind like I could have probably fit this game better
You know, but it doesn't matter you closed out the end and that's why the relief sinks in I love the BKB on socks
I by the way, yes the fact that he recognized well number one
He's got a lot of net worth they are taking a big lead
He was surviving a lot of the fights because of good positioning
But also the only way that Yandex would lose the game is if Soxa is not in position and able to protect
This dude as long as he disrupts Watson and Watson can continue hitting the base
Getting his spells off pressing the Satanic pressing the BKB. They were going to win this eventually
They just had to remain disciplined. He only died the one time and then time that's also that's like a you know great for him
but also
Representative of how socks up late the game. Yes, I didn't thought like the small thing when they were pushing a high ground
And he like drops his rapier at the edge of the base because he wants to go in first force all their bkbs
And then he goes back picks up the rapier then goes for the throne because it's like the first life
You can drop three in the ground. It was just like a really cool like small thing
I think the entire team does like really small place
Let's not forget that in the three wins that Watson had or gandex had my apologies
He died once in all wins. Yeah, like one death in one game one death in second game
One death and the third win right so it's like three wins one death to win that's not a loan is very very
Crazy record. Yeah, like I totally agree with what you said Gunnar about how they do all of these like small little details to me
That's what won them this whole tournament is that their fundamentals
They've always been able to do like the really high-skill stuff, right?
But then you have the Dias from cheer junior they worked on the fundamentals the discipline is there that's important
That makes them tier one team what makes them the caliber where they can win the entire tournament are these little tricks like
Malady going for the quelling blade putting wards nobody is expecting winning lanes because he's you know putting centuries
They don't get dewarded Soxa the way that he's cutting the off lane like they're they're super creative
And I think that's what gave them the edge to win the whole thing. Yeah, so no
I was gonna say that they have also I think for future terms. They've broken the meta here
Shadowfiend was not victorious the same game in the Grand Finals to Kiro's overall first pick victorious all three games and
And I mean that's not even talking about all the other heroes we saw pop up that we haven't seen in a long time
You took the words right out of my mouth
I was gonna say for Yandex that they controlled the narrative of this entire grand finals, right?
Like they were the ones putting the Phoenix into the off lane
Sure, they didn't have like this hot hot scar situation
But like in a game five like leaving SF in the pool taking Jukiro picking a little bristle back
Like they kind of giving like hey take your time take your SF
Like take the obvious heroes of the tournament and then we'll take our Luna more outplay
use us like when you're nearly getting like reverse swept in the grand finals to have the
confidence to give these heroes away to trust your strategies we have to then praise the coach
and like the ideas guy on the team as well they're drafting with super next level this tournament
it was speaking of control in the narrative we are also controlling they're here for a team
liquid as we're closing their chapter and they obviously come second much respect for being
the team that has played the most competitive tier one dota in a tournament ever within this
times period times spent of 12 hours they say correct yeah yeah you did yeah 12 hour window
of a dota day liquid have done the most yeah the longest best of three second longest best of three
the longest day of dota if only they were able to close an hour they're probably happy right now
like either way they get to go sleep yeah that's a win yeah yeah i mean it was it was some amazing
Dota. It wasn't just amazing Dota. Today, I feel like already day one of this beat,
Jevilakia was one of the longest day ones we've ever had with every single series
that we had that day going the distance here on this stream. And I want to just
hear from you guys, but would you reflect back on other than this top tier of final day
that we've had Gunnar, what stands out most? What did you close your thoughts?
I think they were, we had some of the best like 70 minute games. It was like funny to
to say but a lot of the time 70 minute games are one team since the base for
15 minutes and it's just that and then hype for like two minutes and then it's
done sure but I think a lot of the time even those games that were that it was
the team that defending would be the winning team like we had the liquid
series yeah where they versus heroic was it where they're just like sitting
in their base the whole time and then they actually win I think a lot of
their tournaments like they would have lost that situation at the 70 so the
late games were very very exciting I also think for me I've always like
BQB or fresher metas even though they're like they can get boring. I think the amount of like team fight and
Spellcasting that allows is just like super fun to watch
What did you call it earlier in the tournament like skill?
Skill something there's there's like options for people showing their skill expression. Yeah. Yeah, I love I love that term
I think there was a lot of skill expression in this tournament
I know we've been saying for like a pretty long time now like the top eight in Dota. They're very close people are
are all very good at the game.
It's very close, but this tournament
has had the most skill expression
that I've seen in a long time
when it comes to these individual plays
with refreshers and fights,
but also five fairy fires on J'Kiro
in the laning stage and like I said,
the quelling blade and these little details
that really matter.
And to me, that's what Dota has always been about.
It's about a game where the littlest thing
can be super broken, but everything is broken.
So it's even, it's balanced.
make sense. The chaos makes sense.
Yeah, it also makes sense is how I'm just thankful that with the Valahia format we have
the 16 teams actually on site feeling kind of simulating kind of what like a TI kind
of experience would be like true insight. You've got to travel to the event, play your
games out of studio. You have to really prove yourself as a team. And that clearly
is a product of then the great donor. Again, four out of the three grandfathers we have
here now three two and it is
testament to the fact that we
get to see all 16 teams here.
So I'm just again, give me
next Valahio. I know the type
of that it's going to happen.
It'll be some BKB refresher
for Ghana. It'll be some 12
verifier because backpack
and inventory.
Yeah, he's going to work
out.
Yeah, he was but you know
it's going to be beautiful
every time.
Yeah, and this was
definitely one for the books
here.
PJ Velaki season seven was
a very good one.
It's going to be a tough
one to top.
to top but of course we're going to be doing our best to top it anyway that is with season eight
on the horizon but season seven has come to a close so thank you so much for tuning in and on
behalf of everyone here not just us four here but also everyone working to make sure that this show
happens the way it does to make sure that we get to see the best dota with the best format
and bring it all to your screens at home it's been an absolute pleasure and a joy but we wish you
a very good night and with our final words we would like to once again congratulate the champions
for season seven here for pg of lachia congratulations to team yandex
Let's go.
They're coming.
Got them.
They've got it.
They're in the woods.
Let's put the fight together.
They're in the woods.
Go ahead.
They're going to the left.
They're out.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait
He's on me, he's on me
I'm dead, I will buy it
Can you help me, sir?
Yes
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here
Go, go, I'm here
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here
I'm killing them, I'm killing them
Go, go, go, go
I'm killing them, I'm killing them
I'm killing them!
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