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No! No! No! No! No! No! No!

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It's gonna spot this.

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This could be really big.

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Good.

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He's gonna jump in a little bit early.

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Frank goes in with kills off Yuma.

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A double dunk.

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Okay, they used the Viper Strike on TV.

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And there's the Rolling Thunder response from Dark Mago.

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That's a full disengage.

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Although they get the Boundless Strike on the Tylon.

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Still pretty healthy which is already to pop the VKD with the Wukong as well

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Do they have the same KJ gets the telekinesis they're gonna be able to take out scope field though to start this fight

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You can see the viper is all alone a little bit late on the arena and the spear completely whips

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The more it comes in with the ult and they delete wits from the face of the map

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Just gets two shot there. This fight is not over yet

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Dark Maga spotted, punched up in the air.

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There's the Colbo and the dunk up to Yuma.

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The biggest kill, the double from Frank again.

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Spear comes out, not going to be doing too much,

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as KJ looks to be next on Frank's list.

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Shot number three.

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We just shouldn't fight.

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Like, just wait this one minute and make your life a lot easier.

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We're going to start it off.

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They will as they're going to find attention again.

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That's a tie on KJ.

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There's the snowball save.

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Age is already consumed, there's the arena with the spear, but the Viper is already dead!

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Double kill for Wittz and now Heroic on the run.

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They're gonna try to protect their...

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...Warta, but she's just gonna get called.

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She kills off Frank inside the call, but now connections are made.

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Stun locked.

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Four days.

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Triple kill for Wittz now.

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And this is just gonna continue on.

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Four dead for Heroic.

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It's the challenge. Oh, he just gets caught like this though. Yeah, that's the Hax

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Blood rights coming as well when I was one life once now. He doesn't have it. Could they kill him again?

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I'm gonna try for the swatch buff and give him some space raptor dance

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And it's not gonna go for its heckles. I've done so much damage and now the shield crashed to follow Yuma on the run

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Can you outrun the chicken?

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They will but at the cost of the blood seeker

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Darkmago finishes Jama Thiala core as a TP attempt for the rolling thunder will put that to an end. It is stolen

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Maybe for a later fight as Whisper is gonna fall

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And he oh back to the sheep stick now so they seven-slotted Darkmago he eats his axe I believe

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Yeah, the

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Bragg's like I'll take you with me into the battle of strike into the pulverize

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into one last death in this tournament because Heroic has now been knocked out.

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with the Swashbuckler to follow. Laurel is there.

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There's the fiend's grip again. Can they actually kill Mallory?

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He gets off the shield crash and this coil is not going to lead to much, it seems.

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Good attempt on the avalanche is Laurel on the run.

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He'll face shift out. Swashbuckler with a lot of damage there.

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And that's going to be the death of the puck as well.

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So, did he actually want to go for this? He gets the break.

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This is a hurricane pipe usage. It's getting bounced left and right. They do find Bambi.

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Not quite enough, although he might be counting the counter damage, even comes out in front of

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way to cancel Yatoro's ult. Finally gets it off of the BKB. The rest of Falcons just on the outskirts,

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just waited out, and TP is successful for Yatoro.

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I'm the one who probably didn't want to arrive there.

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Yeah, Batu did not get the memo that they were not fighting because they're all dead.

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Oh my, Yatoro with the Wukong's command to give some space so that they can take Rosh and it looks like they're going to get it.

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I can almost do anything.

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That would have been hilarious.

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Malri in deep into PXE, stash at the Aegis! How does that happen? It's so much time!

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Malri inside the Wukong's command, remember he has a second life so he doesn't really care about dying so much here.

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He gets the rolling thunder on chest at the top.

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And now the A we do with the Avalanche to follow Yatoro with dead, has to buy back instantly.

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A we do still applied to bar you keep trying to get out

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You're doing pretty close now read jumps in there's the fall in sky again

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Hey, that's a dieback for the primal beast

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Having to deal with this constant rolling thunder is so annoying and tier 4s are now down

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Big initiation from now reads stuck in the midst of all this if a lot of them is being applied

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But there's the Sunray and they heal up everybody

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And with that about this software is set still no primal for 20 seconds ancient expose

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Skeeter's gonna focus on that right now.

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And here we do with the backlight hits

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of the Fallen Sky as well onto the Queen of Pain

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in a lot of trouble.

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That is a dieback now for Laurel.

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I

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For the shows in this wave definitely gonna jump him immediately triple S ready with the big rabbit

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You're gonna go in get to get in the water ravage not extended just yet

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They might not even need it as he's gonna fall anyway

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Thanks for the damage of no one Nipo in the meantime, but the earth find out onto the pangalia preventing him from escaping as well

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Double kill for no one calorie. Absolutely. No hope of escaping here my friend. Zatanic is on your ass

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K-1 terribly. Could be targeted here. They're pinning him out right now. Nightfall is showing up, wants to reveal the basher.

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It's going to be a Dukalis who breaks the smoke. Preserve award was plopped out, but he gets the Icarus dive out.

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Zatanic, up in the meadow, and he sears from Aurora trying to get themselves back with a beautiful dreamquill.

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On to three of the backlights, enables Nightfall to just jump in and kill off Dukalis.

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Nightfall survives a little while longer, but eventually he dies as well.

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Now triple S, what can you do here? Can you protect Zatanic because Life Fall only has eyes for the terrible blade.

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Life number one will be taken away, but Zatanic will die permanently in the fountain trying to respawn.

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Triple S doing his best to run, and make each other logo behind him, catch him, bring him close, kills him off.

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Silly to say, but this sir says, oh, mid lane, the class, he's in trouble right now.

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Look at what David has already taken, he's trying to run himself away with the BKB, but no one has the ability to chase him to the ends of the earth.

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WS doing his best, trying to get himself out of here.

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His team has made the space to lift back from Mira, saving the logo.

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Kaori dropped the Keonik offering onto no one's head and the spirit dies.

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Namikoto trying to get onto this Bristleback.

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BKB will not last forever as soon as it expires.

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This bristleback is going to end up dead.

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Dukalis, no opportunity for him to do anything here.

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Still 18 seconds, no supernova.

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Mikoto not feeling fearful of anything.

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Dives off to him onto the high ground,

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kills him with the waiting riff.

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That puts like a lotus-fed to her, right?

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That's the last second underneath the fountain.

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Not like a great lotus or something.

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There's Dukalis.

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Beautiful hook shot, direct yaw to Kaewari.

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Venomons is down.

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I'm going to be forced to buy back.

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Dukalis though will die back for this.

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Zatannik just trying to clean up this Roshan's banner.

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He'll do so.

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He still gets negared.

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The war went out onto the Medusa. There's the focus fire. They want to get the damage out on top of it, but it's not enough just yet.

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Titanic is still able to get back. They lose Rubik and they lose the Naisuoka.

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Both of them have to fight back. The BKB protecting Titanic a little while longer.

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Lancelot, you live the lift into the fountain, allowing Titanic to stay alive!

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Healing up right now. Makoto is going to be able to finish off no one, and that is a dieback on the tiny Gigi is pulled.

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they delivered. Kiddich does try to get out, but won't be able to save. Get his best run

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interruption with the stolen solar guardian, but all he does is put himself in the line

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of fire. Get himself killed off. GPK can't even save them. So he's carrying some very

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pressure cargo. He needs to leave. Timbersaw though, getting brave and confident goes in

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by himself. DKB active. This is like the Orange Ace. We know he doesn't have another

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solar guardian, but he's so strong with his own harpoon. Kiddich is now has higher

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HB trying to join the fight. Supernova thrown in by Tofu on the outside able to

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burn the lifestealer and kill off Kataomi. Kataomi buys back returning to the

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fray. He dropped off the chain frost as soon as the gaze on Tofu. But Nisha is there

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to provide assistance. There's no way out of this one for Kataomi. He will die

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back. They drag Mero back into the fray as well. He's dead too.

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okay back in real life he's in trouble right now lift it back in an open position the solo

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guardian comes in it's not going on the tiny so he ends up dead winters curse will be utilized

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as well unfortunately for them it's not enough damage on the back lines of the fight so face

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all alone watching this damage rain in on top of him sonic wave runs a triple kill towards

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gpk nisha trying to get out he's been silenced off by the kids look at this damage

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is stacking up from GPK. Misha has to simulate in a moment. They'll utilize it, try to get

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out of here. He's inside the trees. Ash goes there, back towards GPK. Can he at least

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kill him off? During the supernova, he can. The supernova now pops. Stunned with Kiritich

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as well as Mero. Tofu finishes off Kiritich. Can he get Mero? He can with the help

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of X. He comes through with the finger of X.

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This fails. I don't know what's going to happen for the rest of the game. Misha

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They want to catch onto Miro, but they need Miki to be here with the Silverage.

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This Tiny is still making his way over, but right next to him is Kiritich,

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who's going to interrupt them even getting there.

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Kiritich needs to run away, but he's not going to be allowed to.

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Thankfully, he does have the Silverage.

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No initial reveal, but the tick damage is way too much from the Kers.

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On the other side, Ace tries to do something towards Kataomi,

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but as soon as the Starbreaker attempt is over, Kataomi just heals himself.

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of GPK just kills Ace.

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Be sure, get it caught out as well right now.

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Nope, actually, let me left alone.

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GPK wants an easier kill going towards Ekki.

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Greetings, Dota fans, and welcome to the penultimate day

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of PGL Valhalla here, season eight.

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Great action yesterday.

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We'll reflect on that in a moment.

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But first, let me introduce you to our panel.

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I'm obviously your host Richard Lewis.

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It's at it down there.

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But what we've done today,

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we've got both our panelists in cosplay.

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On the left, you can see we are.

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He's come as a South American reject fan,

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whereas of course you've come, Jenkins, as a heroic fan.

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See, I've made a reference to yesterday's results.

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You can't do that.

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I know.

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You can't do a callback like that.

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No, I know.

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That's dark.

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I know.

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picture on the

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Yeah also

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Cute little kitten

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Good for you

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Why don't we look at the graphic and just talk about your sales results

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We'll get through this segment together I think is what we'll do

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But no, it was a good day yesterday

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I mean especially because look

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It was sad for Heroic going home

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But the good thing about South American teams playing each other

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Is obviously it means there's still one in the tournament

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As you can see down there in the lower bracket

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lower bracket now sadly for them they will have to play team liquid so but they

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have momentum Richard correct and they're an emotional team we all agree

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about we all agree mo team it's not a phase essay rejects is here to stay they've

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beaten heroic they've dethroned the king they've usurped the king have you seen

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game of thrones Richard very well yes I played no rules forever and essay

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rejects is gonna come and show today that they've usurped not only heroic

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but they're gonna take over the entire kingdom of I think liquid is

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They're looking good, but this is it for them. The Reaper is coming. They're the SI Regis

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I think between the two of us of America's I love that really exists here

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I think they have more chances of beating this like Q1 teams. Yeah, yeah, yeah

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Yeah, heroic look done. I mean they were toasted towards the end. I mean fair enough, you know

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They've got lots to talk about

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Falcons obviously still in the tournament, but definitely far from flawless

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They're gonna take on paravision. You can see as well up there. Look at that

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That Team Liquid and Bet Boom had an amazing series last night.

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We stayed up late to watch that one, show up to all of the crew.

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It was a long day.

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And of course, Aurora, the form team in Dota,

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knocked Paribashin down into that lower bracket.

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So you can see that upper bracket final will be Aurora and Bet Boom team.

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So, I mean, I have to say this, I do feel that I was surprised Team Liquid

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actually were able to take a game, frankly.

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Remember, they are using the stand in no box.

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He's super important to the way they play, Dota.

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And I think Pet Boom have been the best team at this tournament.

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They look the best, their players are averaging the best stats in this tournament so far.

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I'm honestly just as surprised as you, that Liquid took a game.

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I feel like BD has been the team of the tournaments right now.

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And both games they've won, they've just shown that they're just better actually than Liquid.

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Yeah, and on the topic of Ekky, I don't think that the liquid that we saw yesterday was by

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any means a weak liquid.

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I totally agree with this idea that he has actually slotted in very well.

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I think he's exceeded expectation.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Voxy for a lot of people is top one position fours in the entire world.

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So Ekky coming in and having a performance like this, I think bodes well for his future

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career.

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On the flip side, Liquid is a team that is known for being capable of doing this.

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I think it's really cool that they give these decent players a shot,

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and then people go, well, hold on a second, they're not just decent, they're really good

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if they're slotted into a good team. They're really good at talent scouting,

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showing that someone is really good, and then that person goes on to get a team around them

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that's a tier one team. Also, Liquid players have this aura that...

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Oh for sure just feels like you know they're playing for liquid and then when you meet this guy a key

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You know, he's gonna fit in right in there. Yeah. Oh, yeah

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We saw we saw his aura in the interview. He just came out and just was like listen

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I'm a stand-in. I'll nail the media work out

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I'll talk about how we're gonna play and what we're gonna do. So I always understand it

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That's a team liquid classic, but I mean, yeah

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They're still very much in the tournament as well, Team Liquid, as good as Beth Boon looked.

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Talking a little bit about Falcons, we covered that as well, our little crew here.

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And I think with Falcons, how it seems to work right now is you get one good game and one bad game.

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And they can still win a bad game and they can still lose a good game.

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Falcons, they don't want to win, actually.

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To me, it looks, these guys, they just want to farm.

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I feel like they came here and they basically decided like on the three course maybe made a challenge or something like who's gonna farm more and

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They don't really care about going high ground

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They maybe take Roche, but I feel like they do it just to take ages so they can farm different with the map

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So for now Falcons has been sticking to their strategies not going out of their way to do something crazy

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Pretty much just like literally just farming the entire game all their games go like 40 50 minutes

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I just noticed in that fight Laurel hexed a creep. He hexed an easy camp creep, Southern

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Malorraine. That was a crazy game. There were so many late game mistakes that like just did

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not fit for the teams that we were watching. I mean also.

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That was spirits, sorry. Spirits at a nightmare. We just go like, I mean, Yatorov couldn't

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even pick up an Aegis yesterday. So it's PG and so on.

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You picked three items of the four.

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Yeah.

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He tried his best. God bless them. Anyway, we can also talk about snaking as well on Falkens

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because we had a great interview with him. They played like, I don't know, a 60-minute

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game and he said in 10 more minutes it would have been a fun game for me. But he's kind

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of doing a little bit of kinolegy because he is setting the pace in the early game.

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I think he's still playing really well.

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He is.

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I remember there was something that,

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when Alley had his very small stint

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on the Oricosh Gaming Studios,

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he obviously came in and saw a lot of problems that we had.

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And he said, you know, whenever you're ganking,

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you need to gank to an objective.

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You don't gank to get kills

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because we would just gank to the carry.

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So I wanted to take a look at how, you know,

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Alley's coaching and Snake King's play

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happens in this game,

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when they're in terms of how they're going for ganks. So Snake King grabs a creep. He's seen

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on the portal through this ward. So Yatoro of course he is going to run into the trees. This is

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just Team Spirit being a you know top caliber team but it doesn't matter. I want to look not at the

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heroes because of course they see him. They know he's here. I want to look at the catapult.

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Let's keep an eye on the catapult this entire time. So he sends the creep in, takes a little

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bit of damage from the tower, sends another creep in. Spirit fortifies the tower so it doesn't

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go down. Amar is not taking tower aggro. Snaking takes tower aggro. They're kind of sharing it

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between the creep, between Amar and between snaking. They force a TP rotation in. Panto tries to drag

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the creep wave away from the catapult. Right? Everyone is looking at the heroes and the kills,

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but what the pros are looking at is the catapult. The wave gets fortified by falcons keeping

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catapult alive. The creeps run into the tower aggro range again, where they're able to

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tank the tower. And this entire time, this entire time, they're sharing aggro between

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their heroes so the catapult doesn't get hit unless there are creeps in the tower. Nothing happens

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like basically well nothing up until this I think actually they did kill yotaro but my point is

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even if they didn't kill yotaro I think that was just crit hitting a really good like awesome

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bushwhack. What's happening here is they're applying a lot of pressure this is why you gank to an

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objective not to a hero and they focus on pressuring the objective not necessarily

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pressuring the heroes because if you pressure the objective you pressure the heroes like

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Like look at the net worth, free gank and post gank.

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Basically nothing happened, just Yatoro died,

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but it was after a super long time.

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You go from Pango second on net worth,

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about 300 ahead of Puck to he's now,

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well still 300 ahead of Puck,

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but the other heroes, it's a way bigger deal.

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Like Doombringer, Amar, 3100 net worth,

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versus a monkey king who essentially has the same net worth

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from prior to the gank.

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Like not only in the lane that they were ganking,

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was there a net worth increase,

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but in the other two lanes as well.

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Either the net worth stabilized,

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which is what happened in the mid lane,

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or the net worth increased.

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So you can kind of pressure the entire map

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by just doing this, and they're not even getting kills.

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Like the Yatora kill didn't matter,

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it's just about keeping that catapult alive.

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And the tower, the tower was like 10% HP

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after when they finished.

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Oh yeah, it took a shit time at the time.

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And these type of players,

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especially this early into the game,

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I mean, from my past experience,

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they kind of decide the flow of the game, the momentum.

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Like one thing is gonna feel, in this case, Falcons,

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they're gonna feel very good.

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They know what they did, had a lot of impact.

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They see the enemy struggling. These guys trying to pull the wave away from the catapult.

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Yathoros dying. Some guy is TPing. And they know they're pushing the enemy.

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And they start feeling very good and very confident.

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While on the other hand, Yathoros is going to feel absolutely like garbage.

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Yeah, he's not farming the entire time.

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He can't farm. He's being pressured. He's like, where's my teammate?

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Where's my middle laner? What's happening? I'm losing my tower.

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And then he dies too. And yeah, the middle laner is like,

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Okay, well my carry died. He's not happy.

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Okay, maybe should I TP there?

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And he just starts feeling,

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now everybody's just feeling bad on his spirit.

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And it just goes on and on and on,

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and people are just gonna think about that moment

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until the next moment.

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So what happens is the flow of the game.

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Yeah, well, also as well,

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dictating the flow of the game,

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certain items are gonna get picked up.

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Obviously, we're at the start of a new meta,

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new patch, new meta,

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it always seems to happen at Valahia.

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So I thought we could talk about some of those items

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and which ones are in vogue right now.

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Some of these play into some research that I know that you did that we will get to, but there's some, you know, ideas that we've had on panel, like, oh, when we see this, like, anecdotally, it looks good, or it doesn't look so good.

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So I wanted to take a look at it. Like, we, something that you kept saying is that, I think you said, like, butterfly is a feels-good item on Monkey King.

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on Monkey King, so I wanted to take a look at some like the other alternatives, the people

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who aren't going butterfly, a lot of the time they'll go for something more aggressive,

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which is for the Echo Saber into Harpoon, and the win rate is crazy, it is staggering,

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71% win rate, it's a big increase from what is normal win rate is, which is 46%, with

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Harpoon at 71%, and then Bristol Tide going for the consecrated wraps, Bristol's win

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win rate, not so good. Tide's pretty good. Both of them with the wraps, not a good win

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rate. So as much as the item looks good, it statistically is not actually winning, which

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I think is very interesting. And then we saw some Bloodstone stuff. It seems like Bloodstone

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just generally is like a very good item right now. Incredibly high HP and mana that you're

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gaining from this. But yeah, I thought that was some-

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It's too much HP. I think Bloodstone gives 750 HP. I mean, if you look at-

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Wait, it's I think it might even it's like almost in the same same place

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Mm-hmm, and yeah coming to the wraps

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I think it's more more of a like when you play here like BB and tide you kind of what

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Don't want to buy this item unless you're like in a bad position

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Yeah, I can understand why the item feels like that like

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Sophisticated has a long one rate because when you're winning you're gonna go for SNY on BB

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You're gonna on time. You're gonna get like blink shot

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you're gonna buy aggroing cats like you want to you want to like improve your

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game as fast as possible and be efficient on farming but then you have a

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bad lane things are going bad I gotta be tanky I cannot die anymore I'm just

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gonna buy the wraps and hopefully best yeah I feel like yeah we see the winner

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it's going down we can also talk about the records that have been set we

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alluded to it earlier some players have really been you know as they do

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with black is really setting the standard and you can see here my goal

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with the xpm. I was gonna say this one was unexpected but this guy

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consider me some get them said a couple of times yeah it's just funny because he

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dies a lot his his net worth is sometimes not so good but like but why does he die

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Jenkins it's always it's always for a trade it's always for kills because he's

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always so aggressive and he's looking for these like solo kills solo cuz

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specifically dark megal the thing he does every time I play with him in

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And because he's going for solo kills, they give so much XP that he's just topping the charts.

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Yeah, that was one that I was not expecting.

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This one we talked about yesterday, of course, lots of midlaners, carry players here,

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but I think Nero being on here is very impressive.

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Being an off-laner and just never dying, like your whole purpose is to run in and be tanky

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and like trade your 8 you know your HP for other resources and to be able to do

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that without dying just goes to show that like this kid right now he's like

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playing peak Dota. Yes it's playing so good and it helps that he plays someone serious too.

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This one is very important of course we have to show the nightfall the

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reigning champion of map map pings is PPM is always over 200 a lot of players

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cannot hit the same PPM as him but I wanted to show Ekki is actually

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third on that. So, you know, not to reach into it too much, but of course, Pings have a direct

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correlation with who is the captain of the team, whoever has the most pings. So, Echie is the captain?

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Echie is the captain of Team Liquid now, which is very impressive as a stand-in.

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Yeah, congrats. We can also talk about a little bit of meta evolution. Queen of Pain seems to

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be a hero. We've talked a lot about on the panel and when it's a good co-op game,

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It's a very good quap game, but it isn't so much, but a lot of potential for last picks.

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I've noticed this pattern actually while I was watching the games, and I found it interesting,

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and I wanted to mention it, because in group stage, I feel like teams did not really understand

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how exactly to play this hero. They were mostly picking it in a bad way,

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but at the same time the gameplay did not fit this hero and I played so much Queen of Pain before

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coming here in this exact meta. They kind of figured it out. In playoffs as you can see it's

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6-2, very successful hero. It won almost every game yesterday. I think people are going to put

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way more focus on this hero especially in draft priority when it comes to bans and picks

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and it could just be the midlaner of the tournament. It could be the hero that

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I think so things are just going to look for almost every game from now on part part of what I think contributes to this trend is the fact that

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People were almost like over excited about the scream of pain buffs and I feel like the build was like 044

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But now we're seeing like going for two points and dagger again

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Just the old classic quad build where you want to pick some sort of

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melee hero that I can just dominate in lane sure my farm will suffer a little bit

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But I'm gonna dumpster you with with dagger like I think that's always what happens

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There's an extreme reaction to a new change

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People kind of dial it back and then they keep some of the stuff they learned with the extreme reactions such as like the soul ring

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Build yeah, and he doesn't have that many bad matchups either. It's like three here

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So I think it's buck Oscar and Viper. Yeah, fuck is mostly banned all the time

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Husker stop the many good house, please and we saw Nisha yesterday play it against the Queen

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He just got double lane. Yeah, it was so funny sitting mid lane

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It's funny because it happened to me exactly the same way about a week ago

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It's it's just not fun to play against that and it got demolished and it's all in the game

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Oscar is not that good against the Queen so Viper again, not many mid players play Viper

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They don't really want to be in the position where they you know her old crap

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You probably won't fight this I'm gonna win the lane and then I'm gonna just look at this queen of pain

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final for like 40 minutes with Aghanins. It's, yeah. Right. Well, this is the schedule we've got. You

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saw some of it. I remember looking at our bracket earlier, but this is the order of the games today.

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You got the immortal TBD versus TBD coming up at the end of the day. Aurora gaming taking on

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Betpoon team, that is going to be an absolute banger. Liquid versus the SA rejects. How far

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Can the SA rejects push it momentum-wise? We'll be talking about that in a moment.

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But for now, ParaVision versus Team Falkens. This is interesting because I already said it.

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I think Team Falkens, you get one good game, you get one bad game. I've seen them win bad games.

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I've seen them lose their good games. I've seen them play slow. I've seen them lose fast.

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Meanwhile, ParaVision, they start these morning games terribly. That's what's happened so far

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Yeah, there's a 100% correlation. Yeah, it's always the first game that goes really bad. Yeah, so I mean Vulcan's theoretically

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I mean this should be a 2-1. It's just which way it's gonna go

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But you know when we interviewed say Tannick about it, too

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He didn't seem to have much of a theory as to why it's even happening. Oh, he didn't blame his teammates

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He was just like, yeah. He was TBC flaming Weha. He was like, yeah, Wee sucks. My team sucks

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actually, you know, like, we're like, let's do it.

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It was the item, but at the same time,

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I believe just from the fact that he was kind of

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putting small blame on his teammates

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and from how I've seen them play so far,

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it feels like it's kind of a satanic game every time.

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I feel like he's not really,

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he doesn't have the backup he wants right now.

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He's having way more impact on satanic

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than all the other four players.

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It's up to, basically, if they wake up in a good way,

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you said? Well, also the other thing that we've noticed with Falcons is Amar has only been playing

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two heroes by his own admission. He's been playing, you know, Bristle and Typhus, but then he has these

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last couple of games. He had the Monkey King in the offline. Very interesting theory crafting. He

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picked that into a lone druid. Get your Jingu stacks off the bear. Maybe you fight him in

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the ultimate. You don't care too much about training. Could have picked a slot. Yeah, it

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didn't work out, but then we saw two games yesterday, excellent Doom. Not 33 Doom, but

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also very good Doom.

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Excellent and extremely greedy.

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Yes, radiance.

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He was a great game.

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He was a huge player without a second thought.

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It just shows you the game plan for Falcons. I do meme a lot about them just wanting to

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farm the entire game, but this is kind of the game plan that they do. They do stack

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a lot and they always aim to get the three cores as fat as possible. And basically

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they just choke the enemy out, they don't force the high ground, they just chill and keep farming

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like at the minimum of 70% of the map and eventually they just get too fat, the enemy makes a mistake

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like Spirit did yesterday when they overchased the pango. That's how they win.

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I mean it's not exciting but it is clinical and also as well when you consider the team composition on Falcons

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You know, the carry-to-carry matchup, I will say obviously Paravision have the more explosive carry in the form of Satanic rather than Mr. Slow and Steady, you know?

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So it's an interesting contract.

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I have to say, I don't know if it's a good matchup for Perry, because Perry, they like to snobble, they of course start the day pretty badly, but then in the next games usually they show up and they start like running down the enemies.

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And Falcons, of course, a team that wants to go late game, I think it's not favored in the matchup, per se, but at the same time, for Peri,

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only Satyne has been looking really good so far. I feel like the other team members, they do need a wake-up call because they have this guy who can carry them.

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And I feel like he's just putting too much work and it's unfair to him.

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And he's picking such a...

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Well, he is Mr. Kaz right now.

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Yeah, it's an interesting subset of heroes compared to a lot of the other carry players in the tournament.

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And like you said, has a crazy good win rate with Kez.

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This seems like a hero that you have to have a whole team that's playing around.

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You have to do the 4-protect-1.

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Kez will do enough damage to single-handedly carry the game.

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You have to be really high skill at it.

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Oh, Kez has been.

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Yep.

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They've taken that out straight away.

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They've heard you.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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That's fair.

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And so the question is, with the lone druid being available, would either of these teams

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Pick it we've seen paravision use it as a flex they did put it in pause for me

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No, that was terrible and probably won't happen again, but it's paravision

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Falcons on the other hand one of the impressive things about ski at this event

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He didn't have a lot of games in loan druid when he came in and he was more than happy

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Just to pick it and play it because it was good, but well

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Let's go back to the queen of pain. I was death segment now. Yes

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I like it, but at the same time there's a long road on the enemies

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Since long road has been banned yesterday. We haven't seen a single game of it

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Falcons do love to pick this hero skater is enjoying his time on long road right now

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I feel like Queen is not very good in the matchup against long droid

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It's one of those heroes that is gonna make the game a bit hard to play as Queen

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You kind of want to let just take over the entire map when you have backings and farms and they go for alchemist

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not longer with haven't seen this animation well so the teams that beat the alchemist because

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you can see that on the online tournament just before this the name temporarily escapes me in the

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morning but there it is the pretty serious and it's very generic whatever 70% win rate for the

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alchemist we thought this guy would if he gets through might be a certain win in reality what's

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happened is generally teams have been outplayed by the opposite team they just

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up their tempo yeah and you don't even necessarily need a crazy like niche set of

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heroes to do that you just it puts a lot of pressure on you to play against an

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alchemist because if he's farming the jungle camps in front of his base safely

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like for a lot of carries that feels bad for alchemist that feels totally fine

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like he's going to win the game he's gonna give his team a bunch of

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He's going to get more gold than you, so you basically just have to be very creative about like getting deep words down in the jungle about smoking through with your team catching the alchemist like basically keeping him at bay until you get to a point where it doesn't matter if he's farming the agon

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you've already won the game, but like I said, it does make the game hard for you to play,

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but it's doable and teams have figured it out.

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Yeah, we've seen them in the off-lane once or twice as well, so...

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Yeah, it didn't look very good. At the same time, this Alchemist, it's funny,

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because Falcons, when they came to this tournament, they gave Alchemists away,

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And they picked Queen. This was their solution to it and now they're doing the opposite.

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Parry gave Alchemist and they took the Queen.

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And generally in this tournament it's lost.

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Almost every time it's been matched up against the first pick Queen.

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It feels like the decounter since you're going to have a free farm often

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and you can pressure the map on Queen and you don't really care about this Alchemist.

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The carry doesn't exist.

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Like we saw Queen suffer against Tiny for example, Tiny carry.

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And this game, there is no carry.

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He's not gonna have to worry about a hero for how much?

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30, 30, 40 minutes?

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That is a very good way of putting it.

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Like this guy legit doesn't exist.

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He's just this insurance timer where, like, if the game goes to this point

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and Alka's farming, you will lose.

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And a hero like Queen of Pain, I agree, is just like, all right.

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Like, that's perfect.

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Because you just need to get to the eggs on co-op,

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and the game gets so hard for the enemies once you get there.

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Could this be a Malvin Rubik?

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I highly doubt it because he doesn't go out of his comfort zone, but I would love to see a team put this Rubik once against the Queen.

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Yeah, mid-Rubik destroys Queen of Pain.

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If you get the agonies on Rubik, you'd literally become a better Queen of Pain.

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All you have to do is just make sure you steal the spells.

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Which is not an easy job by any means, but Queen does have to use her spells at some point.

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You can just take him.

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Yeah, definitely. It's Rubik and Hoodwink, the two supports for this patch and for this tournament so far.

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They banned out the crit Hoodwink.

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Finally, a team with respect.

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There's too much impact on this hero. Every time.

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They're banning the matchups for Queen Soul. For now, there's still a pocket in the pocket.

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Oh, yes! I was hoping for this. I was hoping for this. This has got to be a nine-class Monkey King.

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It is one of the best heroes at finding the alchemist when he's farming.

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I love playing Slark monkey king against these like greedy ass carries that

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want to just sit and, and be greedy and farm in front of their base.

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Like monkey, you've been playing for monkey king, haven't you?

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Yeah.

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And I think it's, I think it's a lot better on this patch.

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I mean, it's obvious to say in hindsight now that, you know, nine

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gloss has played it in this tournament.

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Um, obviously the other play style of four playing like Rubik, you

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Ranged hero backliner spellcaster works just fine. Everyone isn't running these four positions that

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Scout the map and get information, but it works like on the last patch was impossible everyone was five-manning

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but there are games where there's like an alchemist farming and

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You can actually get some valuable information by being a hero like monkey king and then do that's a that's a hard

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Counter to alch if you ever find him it's to kill with the dude

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Also on the top of monkey king, it is a flex hero, I just want to get out of the way, but

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if played on 4, it pairs so well with the queen of pain.

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Queen of pain loves this 4 position hero that can be mobile, help him on the runes, help

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him on the mid lane, generally queen does.

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Yeah, just a little bit of help is all she needs, she's super strong.

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Queen does like, you know, trickle down the HP of the enemy on the mid heroes,

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so having this guy just come in maybe primal is playing one boundless strike, it can

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in the matchup and then he can scout later on for the Queen of Pain to get this alchemist

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killed maybe in the jungle.

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Now theoretically this should be bristle we're looking at for Amar because doom has been picked

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by paravision, underlord is out, tide is out.

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Oh you're right it could be a bristle and the reason for that is the only pig baby

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with sanking and they need a mid hero that is going to use the aggonyms and what better

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hero for Madre in the sanking.

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And Bristle is like a natural Lotus buyer too, which is obviously very good against Doom.

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Also I want to mention they're probably setting up for an 18-meepo hero on parry.

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This feels like a great meepo game.

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I feel like this monkey queen will give him all the space he needs and so far these

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four heroes they just do nothing to meepo.

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and they did take the queen, you know, blocking it for the entire draft conveniently.

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This all seems like a complete meeple setup right now.

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I will not be surprised if he goes for it.

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Here's the thing though, when he picked it last time, obviously he lost

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and sort of had a bit of a crazy interview afterwards,

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where he was like essentially saying, I did my job.

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He was right.

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He did.

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No, no, but I mean, he was right.

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You don't say it.

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And they decided to go for the engine.

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So they're keeping the meeple, I guess, still in the pool, I'm going to talk about the monkey.

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They're keeping the monkey open, basically.

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But they don't have the last pick, so I'm surprised.

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Usually on 18 here, you kind of want to get the carries that are available before they bat him out.

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They decide to go for the ench.

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It's not a bad hero by any means.

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It's quite successful, actually, in this tournament.

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It's one of the better fives helps you secure the lane.

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It opens up a lot of carries, just because you have an enchantress.

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All these guys, he can practically 1v2 a lot of lanes and very good against beasts.

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That can still be mid or offline, depends.

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If it's offline, beasts is going to have a hard time using boards, but the mid-based

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skill is going to get an axe from Alchemist.

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There's a little bit of a lacking of potential damage in the early game for Paravision

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right now.

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If they're running Monkey King support, Dooms a bit greedy, Qwap needs a little

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bit of time, she's kind of your only damage source.

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But if they can get ahead in the laning stage, like Ench plus Monkey, if it's a Monkey support

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with Qwap running around, maybe Doom in the area to use the Doom, like this is a pretty

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mean death ball.

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Diving with Ench plus Monkey is very strong.

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Even if it's a Monkey carry and he gets active, it's pretty potent to have these two

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heroes together.

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Again, this Monkey I feel like will enable the Queen if it's four, and then they

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will have a lot of damage for the early game since probably Queen just has a great lane 50 50 at the

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minimum almost always and when when he does great get a good lane the snowball is crazy then he does

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damage yeah exactly now that that's what I'm thinking is parry machine Queen blink brown string they

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can be everywhere as well yeah it's like they have the they have the speed and if they if they

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lane well then they also have the damage and their lanes are looking very good right now that's

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partly why they picked the edge I think.

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Yes, solid lanes.

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Falcons on the other hand, the Salk is probably going to give free farm to the Doom.

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Not much you can do to stop him.

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Beast is going to be Beastmaster.

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I feel like this hero just does not lose lanes.

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Even when paired against an edge,

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this hero can always just max out the axes, stack himself for the jungle,

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just get super fat and then basically control the map of the Dominator.

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Or an agonist on the middle lane in this case.

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Scared of the TB on Falcons. They did not see the start

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Satanic is not having a good time on TV this tournament. I think the one game. He did window was against Alchemist

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Yeah, South American redress

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Bend I'm my mother. Yeah another a ma hero band although even though Mars is pretty terrible right now

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A mark and always play it got a respected. Yeah, they're assuming this is a mid-beast master and

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Since they have a 24 on a falcon's because still big sanking. Yes, not that bad. I mean as I think stands

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There really isn't an Amahiro

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It is all banned dude. I'm trying to think of something tight band Mars band BD band on the Lord band

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Pangos will or

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band is he gonna bat rider for the I mean they could now you can't bat against

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quick there actually there is a bad writer in the pool right yeah but it's a

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mar I've seen a band so often this game I completely forgot this year is

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this section I don't think I've I'm just trying to know the panel on a

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battery games I'm trying to figure out the Oracle band is it to stop quap

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get in the rooms with the clairvoyance or whatever I don't know if you ever banned for that but I mean

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that is good it's definitely strong but I don't know if you think about Oracle for the mid lane

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usually for his spells if that is why that's like super next level

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they look I mean both nightclubs and the colors they play the enchantress

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So maybe they were scared of a 4 inch and maybe picking Oracle 5 with the monkey.

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It's kind of strong in the game, it denies the roar, you get the runes on Queen of Pain.

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I mean you practically guarantee you're getting the runes since you have a monkey that can

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TP in once he gets level 5-6, he can be on the runes, it's okay, he does that a lot.

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And they are the Viper actually.

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This is the Ammar hero.

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It's a good match up into the monkey.

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I don't know how good it is against

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Enchantress

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I'm just laughing at it

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We had a lot to talk about Viper today

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I'm a magnet for Viper

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Every time I come in here on this couch

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There's a Viper on my screen

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It's true dude

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This is a very different prospect though

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I gotta look at the win rate of this guy

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It can't be good

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Maybe identity issue in Ammar

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42% win rate, it's not that bad

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Do you think he asked for the Viper?

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Viper? Oh, I'm sure he did. It's classic court players. They just focus on this like,

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there's a monkey on my lane, I need to play Viper. But they don't see that there's an enchantress

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next to him. And I don't have a good feeling for Falcons, but they do have Alchemist.

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Again, anything can happen with an Alchemy team. I do favor Perry. I feel like they're the

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faster team. Falcons is going to look in farm and then there's super high chance they might

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I will say what I say every time a viper gets picked and you said it last time too

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We that I think

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Paravision should start on his lane you've three daggers on ringmaster and

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Chance is slow like viper is

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screwed if you can kill him early there's a rubik one is laying too so he's

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not yes like zero potential to save him he's not gonna help if they if

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Paris decide to do this he's gonna want to leave the game in like four

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means the the early smoke like the pre game is going to matter a lot in this

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game and and set up for the whole laning stage which will obviously dictate the

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game. Oh check in with our commentators and get their opinions what about who

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knows you never can't tell with Sons Van and Cinderan exactly where they're

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gonna go another Viper game for you as well super excited about that. Hey nice

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shirt man. Oh yeah yeah nice shirt. I heard the release date is May 7th. That's right we're about to give birth to a two

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and a half year baby that has crippled us financially very exciting times all

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babies cripple you financially exactly not like now this one has been just

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grueling for a long time my goodness yes so how are you feeling about the drafts

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any opinions on that or do you just want to play I want to shut Tarzan therein

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but Amar gets what he wants Amar gets what he wants every time yeah I mean

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he's good at it he's good at Viper so they see something in it they're very

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focused on the land like you guys pointed out the enchantress is a

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bit of a wildcard here so.

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All right, well no sense, you've got your Viper but you've also got a game to cast so

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go to work.

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Okay, I guess, I guess we can do that for you Richard.

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As we get into the lower bracket matchup, Falcons vs. Paravision, again this is something

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you would expect in the upper bracket at some point but not to be as Falcons, they

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started out here, they have two owed, well I guess they got two owed by Team Liquid

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to start things up but then they've gone on a 2-0 rampage onto Team Spirit,

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Let's see if that momentum helps them out at all as para vision they got to one by Aurora

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Yep, as we get to see an alchemist, which I know a lot of people aren't huge fans of I love though unironically

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Is it gonna be giving acts? Is that just the standard thing that we see every single time?

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You know the win rate has been garbo

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I don't think I've seen a single alchemist carry game this tournament where he didn't gift at least one agonim

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So this is beautiful. I think he just has to more or less

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But maybe there's a game where you only get one to beast

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Yeah, I don't know if the viper one is really worth it. Maybe it's good good enough in this center

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And let's go out on a limb here. He's not gifting force in it. Just don't know well gift it to if you only gonna

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Do two no, I would say the Phoenix actually

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Game-winning they don't have the best egg you apply doom to someone and then you just counter it completely

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Yeah, it's pretty good. I could see it being quite useful, but they're never gonna put it on a support

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because they don't believe in supports here.

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Speaking of Doom, Parvizion are playing four heroes

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for the first time this game in this tournament.

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The only hero they've played before on the player

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is Satanic's Monkey King.

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Everybody else, this is their first game,

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which I was very surprised to see.

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I was definitely expecting that Ducales

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had played Ench of the Least once before.

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It's one of his best.

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One of the meta heroes of the tournament,

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Queen of Pain, this is the first time

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no one's gonna be running that.

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Maybe I misread the graphic.

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I kind of can't believe it,

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but they've played other stuff, I suppose.

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So that'll be really interesting.

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And obviously that's one of the things that gets really

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interesting about drafting later in tournaments

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is that as the teams get more and more footage

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of each other, you start doing mock drafts

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going into series, right?

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You're like testing, maybe you have the coach

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plus another player in the team just drafting

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against each other where one of them pretends

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to be say par vision, if you're Falcons doing

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mock drafting, and then you run some ideas through

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Okay, if we do this, they're probably gonna do that.

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What ends up happening?

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How could we ban if they do that thing, blah, blah, blah?

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You run some...

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Ah, damn, that's some good blocking.

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You run some ideas.

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And then, when you get to game time,

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probably you should just pick four to heroes

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that you've never played before.

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So like, how could you prepare for this, right?

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It's gonna be interesting to see

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just how well they execute it, though.

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That's always the question mark

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when there's so much new stuff.

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DeKalus is gonna start with impetus.

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This is pretty unusual nowadays,

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but wants to try to pressure the Viper.

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I don't feel like you're winning this exchange.

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I think nature's attendance might just be a better choice

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if you want to trade.

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So let's see if he can make it work.

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Sorry, you said which player has played something?

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Satanic, it's true.

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Satanic Monkey King, yeah, different.

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I was going to ask if Nine Class has played

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a lot of Ringmaster lately, but.

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We'll see how well he can drive the Unicycle.

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Yeah, also not my stereotypical Nine Class hero.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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Let's see what he can work up. I'm sure he's got some wrinkles to show as he always does

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Serious damage up top. That's just gonna kill Skeeter here. I think blood grenade on him. Oh

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What the horse happens next he might actually live this one tick left and he does have a tango running nobody can reach

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Yeah, he's probably alive

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What about SSS now then?

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No, he's gonna try to go for the snake in kill and he will get it. These heroes are all like yeah 10 HP

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but it will be paravision drawing first blood this ringmaster level one is

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gonna say level one timing it's like they just load into it just really strong

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the triple impalement arts seen many the first blood in the seros lanes and they

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do it again oh wow to cause is actually also not skilling natures tenants on

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level 2 so now resources become a considerable concern here if you're

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taking a lot of traits with rubik and viper you might have to chill for a bit

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he's gonna get a great creep here though the sader mind stealer now mind you this

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did get it is dying quite nerfed I also don't really like this micro just

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running through everything and almost dying for nothing but the carrier gets

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now that's what he had in mind the whole time of course this did get

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nerfed. It used to do a flat monoburn. It was super obnoxious. Now it does flat plus a percentage

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of your intelligence, but it's way lower flat. So there were some lanes where if you got the

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monoburn creep early, the enemies couldn't play. It's pretty stupid. Some of the major

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outliers in that regard have all been nerfed, right? I think the most egregious one we've

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ever had was the strongest version of Ice Ogre. It was ridiculous. How much armor did that

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I think it gave eight armor and like a 30 or 40 percent slow

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It's if doom got that creep you couldn't beat him in lane as any physical system possible

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That's the one of the main downsides of doom is his lack of armor. Yeah

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So that one got nerfed massively the chain lightning harpy has been nerfed over some passes

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That's also the strongest version of that was also completely ridiculous the monoburn creep. I think those are probably the three

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most ridiculous ones we've had

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Um, finally, mid lane.

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We're gonna see the Beastmaster versus Queen of Pain, and if you are an experienced dota

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player and you've played for years, you'll be like, oh, Queen of Pain is a middle hero,

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great.

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She's gonna win.

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But the middle hero's Beastmaster, and Beastmaster doesn't lose to anything, more or less, except

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...

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That's right.

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Have we seen the hero lose a lane?

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I don't think so.

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This tournament, I don't think I've seen it.

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That doesn't mean it's not possible.

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I do think you lose to Huskar, for example, but ...

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Or if rotations come in.

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Of course.

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But in isolated 1v1s, this guy's just the king.

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destroying no one he's sending him back to base on Queen of Pain at minute four

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yeah very impressive very very impressive you pick Beastmaster you win

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lane of course it is Malrian so he's the master of this is the master of

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melee mits but I will say I don't think this is the expected outcome on paper as

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much as we joke about Beastmaster can't lose I also don't think he should

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be winning this hard maybe it maybe he should with the Boris maybe Cwap can't

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deal with this, but he is 28 and 9 against Queens 19 for 2, so a very big advantage for Malrin.

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Yep, it's SSS on the Doom.

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Let's see if he gets going on here pretty soon. How much kill threat does an Alchemist have in

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this patch? Because, as you can see, the Unicycle 9 class gets off the whip as well.

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Well, Malrin has committed to this and it is going to be his ultimate doom.

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He does get axes off, but it's not enough to finish the job onto no one, and if he would

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have traded there, that would have been...

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He ran... can we get a replay of that one by chance?

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I want to see the Unicycle actually hit an enemy here, because I don't know if

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he even got taken off.

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I mean, it definitely stopped, but I figured there would be a little bit of an animation

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there.

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In terms of the alchemist's kill power, it's gonna be tough to kill this lane at this point, the Doom Remaster.

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There's damage here, it's making it stick, so, you know.

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Um, oh, hello.

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The Monkey King has arrived, wants to go for the Phoenix Kill.

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It's an easy one, but he's gonna take a full concoction to the face and he gets taken out, so Satanic.

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You could say that is not worth.

59:29.200 --> 59:34.860
Crit had the TP, of course, but you'll take that any time for Falcons.

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Yeah, this is not a move we see often from Satanic, although we did see him do similarly on Nipo in another game on level 3.

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The difference is this time he's doing it because he is struggling bottom, and the other game he was doing it because he was stoning, so he could just freely move.

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This means now that he died top, sure you guys...

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There it is, there it is.

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Oh yeah, okay, it does work.

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Directly into the hero, that is awesome.

59:57.860 --> 01:00:01.060
You see a Sonic wave onto Snake King, no one gets the kill.

01:00:01.060 --> 01:00:04.300
Satanic pretty low has to be careful. This would be a back-to-back death for him

01:00:04.300 --> 01:00:07.340
But he has reinforcements as Chris trying to finish the job. It's not enough

01:00:07.340 --> 01:00:13.120
It's gonna be his ultimate doom instead so two for one with the mid laner going down for para vision

01:00:13.460 --> 01:00:15.660
That's a big deal for the two supports

01:00:16.700 --> 01:00:21.100
It's also a big deal for Amar who gets to enjoy some 1v0

01:00:21.100 --> 01:00:24.980
Yeah, they're true. He loves that. I think this is his favorite way of playing Dota actually

01:00:24.980 --> 01:00:28.720
It's just not having an opponent. He's probably just going to you know

01:00:28.720 --> 01:00:34.920
We have talked about this this team loves to farm. So if you give this guy an empty lane, he's he's chilling

01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:40.080
But it is one of the ways you can deal with viper is to

01:00:40.520 --> 01:00:44.120
Not keep running into it if it is a very strong lane and a strong game for it

01:00:44.200 --> 01:00:47.560
The other one is to try to overwhelm it, which is what satanic is going to do right now

01:00:48.120 --> 01:00:55.800
Yep, he's being outleveled right now by the viper but with SSS coming in who is level six gets the doom onto Amar nowhere to go

01:00:58.720 --> 01:01:06.120
Satanic... His CS is... I thought it was, uh, I mean, obviously that death put him back a bit,

01:01:06.120 --> 01:01:10.120
but his CS is not that impressive right now either, so off to a very slow start.

01:01:10.120 --> 01:01:16.680
That's a tough lane matchup, right? The Viper Rubik, unless Ench really snowballs the lane well early on,

01:01:16.680 --> 01:01:21.080
you're kind of expected to lose. I think Viper's one of the worst matchups possible, so...

01:01:22.080 --> 01:01:26.600
Considering those factors, I mean, the game's still going well for Parry. The other two cores are happy.

01:01:26.600 --> 01:01:33.240
Satanic though, once again will be on the receiving ends of Rubik and Viper, and they will kill him eventually.

01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:34.740
Going to go to Ammar.

01:01:34.740 --> 01:01:39.420
Back to back deaths essentially for Satanic. One and two start to the game.

01:01:39.420 --> 01:01:43.380
And how good of a comeback hero do you think Monkey King is?

01:01:43.380 --> 01:01:46.500
Eh, well exactly the greatest.

01:01:46.500 --> 01:01:48.880
What is he building? Is he going for Battle Fury?

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:49.600
Echo Saber.

01:01:49.600 --> 01:01:52.500
Okay, the Echo Saber build, so more fighting centric.

01:01:52.500 --> 01:01:53.580
It's going to go hard for him.

01:01:53.580 --> 01:01:55.580
rain with the roar

01:01:55.740 --> 01:02:01.740
Crit back you up to call us will end up getting bursted. No one not too interested with the low HP pool right now

01:02:04.460 --> 01:02:06.460
So in terms of standard

01:02:07.340 --> 01:02:13.660
Partition games, this is stiff. Oh boy. My first strike Amar. Oh my god. Really just Tp'd

01:02:14.380 --> 01:02:16.580
And the TPs are too late. Oh

01:02:17.460 --> 01:02:23.240
Well such a bad death from C tank. That's very uncharacteristic of him as well. That is a

01:02:23.580 --> 01:02:27.440
Crippling below to say panic that is the worst death of the game because he just he peed

01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:32.560
So now he has to run all the way back to lane and he switches out and build up to Midas. All right. Oh boy

01:02:34.020 --> 01:02:35.520
That's never good

01:02:35.520 --> 01:02:40.200
This this is a problem because I was gonna say when it when you think about part of visions general game plan as a team

01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:41.840
The way they structure most of their games

01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:45.000
It's get satanic off to a good start make sure he farms a lot

01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.040
And then you kind of just let him play the way he wants and the other heroes will dictate the pace of the game

01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:52.000
while he either farms or joins, whatever he prefers.

01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:53.960
He is the lowest net worth core minute nine,

01:02:53.960 --> 01:02:58.600
which is very rare for Satanic and Paravision to have happened.

01:02:58.600 --> 01:03:00.840
So how does this impact the rest of the game?

01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:03.880
Well, you don't really have very good team fighting heroes.

01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:04.920
If you have Skirmishing Power,

01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.800
a snaking will be run over by said Skirmishing Power.

01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:08.640
Yes, he will.

01:03:08.640 --> 01:03:11.000
Well, DeKalus has to come through the gate

01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:11.840
to finish the job.

01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:13.120
Still not level six for snaking,

01:03:13.120 --> 01:03:16.600
but he doesn't want to pop Eggman anyway.

01:03:16.600 --> 01:03:17.880
For all intents and purposes,

01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:23.880
Like, if you think of what both teams like to happen in the game, I would say this is advantage Falcons, because...

01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:29.880
Yeah, Skeeter is the lowest net worth in his team and actually has the same net worth as Monkey King on the Alchemist, but I think it's more...

01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:38.880
Comfortable territory for them that this is the game state. They're more used to this, they're building more around this happening, so...

01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:44.880
And he's Alc, so he should probably be accelerating well past the Monkey King now that he hits level 6.

01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:45.880
Yep.

01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.880
I'll lose the first tower of the game.

01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.440
By the way, Malarink went for drums first. I assume this is because he's going to be gifted

01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:59.800
aggs. It's first item aggs with this hero.

01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:05.880
We've seen, even in the past with aggs being built, you can just re-gift, get all your

01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.320
money back, you get the stats. There's no downside to building it anyway.

01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:13.360
With this build, he's going to have to wait a bit because it's not the way for

01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:14.360
the Radiance.

01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:18.360
The upside to this is that you don't have a low impact components along the way, right?

01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:23.240
When you're buying Ags, each individual component is pretty weak, whereas drums is very high

01:04:23.240 --> 01:04:25.560
value immediately when you get it.

01:04:25.560 --> 01:04:29.560
So I do think if your number one plan as a team is to gift Ags number one to Beast,

01:04:29.560 --> 01:04:35.320
I really like this idea, you're kind of, you're like way stronger in the next five

01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:37.880
minutes than you're supposed to be, and then you're also way stronger in the next

01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:41.600
ten minutes than you're supposed to be, because you just get 4k gold out of nowhere.

01:04:41.600 --> 01:04:49.600
I really like this idea, it's also very low-accurate, now you have the drum and then you get the drums of Slom, so it'll be a one-man marching band.

01:04:51.600 --> 01:04:57.600
Wheel of Wonder, no connection made though, nice attempt on the steel for Crit, but he steals the knives in his way, I mean that's still a good steel though.

01:04:57.600 --> 01:04:59.600
Equally good I think, honestly.

01:05:00.600 --> 01:05:07.600
Wheel of Wonder for an ultimate, it can have high impact but on average I'd say it's a little weak for an ultimate, would you agree with that?

01:05:07.600 --> 01:05:14.560
Yeah, I guess so, like if you compare it to a lot of other, I think that the main problem

01:05:14.560 --> 01:05:16.380
for that ultimate system is really hard to use.

01:05:16.380 --> 01:05:20.840
It's not that the effect isn't good, but at a pro level it's hard to land, which by extension

01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:23.920
also makes it super cool when you get a big one.

01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:27.760
These players, they know what they're up against and they know how to dodge it, but

01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:29.440
design-wise I actually love this spell.

01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:36.560
I think it's super cool, but yeah, very difficult to use.

01:05:36.560 --> 01:05:42.240
No one with the arcane run, about to run out though, and for Falcons, we've seen it time.

01:05:42.240 --> 01:05:47.800
I mean, what do you think the best strat from a macro standpoint against this team, forgetting

01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:53.640
about lineups, because they like to go late game, they like to milk their lead.

01:05:53.640 --> 01:05:58.640
Is there a certain playstyle you think they suffer against, or is that simplifying it

01:05:58.640 --> 01:05:59.640
too much?

01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:05.680
I think the games that Falcons fall apart the most is when you challenge them in

01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:10.000
the first like 15 minutes with strong lanes and gate movements. I think that's

01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.920
what works the absolute best against this team, which is probably a big part of

01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:17.280
why Liquid ran them over 2-0, right, is that that is what that team does very

01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.800
well on top of a lot of other things. Liquid are a world-class team for many

01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.800
reasons, but they are one of the most aggressive early game teams when they

01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.800
specifically target it. I think on paper a hero like Nature's Prophet should be

01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.840
amazing against this team, no? Like you just have a hero that

01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.800
levels up quickly and just breaks apart the laning stage completely and

01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:42.360
leaves the enemy team uncomfortable you up the pace. So Enchantress I think

01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.320
should be a good hero against them too. Ducales just hasn't necessarily found as

01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.320
much success as you had hoped though. We'll get the top tower down which is

01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:54.920
nice but yeah it's it's not really made any moves into mid to kill the

01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:00.640
Beastmaster and take that tower. I think all in all we've already approached

01:07:00.640 --> 01:07:03.440
the game now where Falcons will be comfortable like they're just gonna

01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:06.440
farm now, and it's up to you to threaten me.

01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:10.440
And then Maar gonna get ganked, he's gonna use the Viper Strike right away, Wheel of Wonder

01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:14.720
will actually hit, he's gonna use the Wukong as well as the rotation from SSS, so the

01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:21.920
hate for Maar is real, but all while this is happening, the Radiance for Mr. Skeeter

01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:27.000
getting closer and closer, just very close to finishing the Sacred Relic, and once

01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:30.960
this Radiance comes online, it is gonna be more farm.

01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.960
Yeah, Satanic will get a 14 minute Midas.

01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:36.960
Yeah.

01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:45.520
Okay, so I feel like the math on this item, I just don't really think it's ever really

01:07:45.520 --> 01:07:47.320
good on a hero that doesn't amplify it.

01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:51.600
I think if you, obviously Monkey King likes the attack speed, so compared to certain

01:07:51.600 --> 01:07:55.720
other carries that would buy this in a tough game, I think he uses it better.

01:07:55.720 --> 01:07:59.340
I'm just thinking bang for your buck. You could also buy Maelstrom and

01:08:00.660 --> 01:08:02.660
Then you could still go Maelstrom into

01:08:02.940 --> 01:08:09.500
Yeah, I think that I haven't seen a high enough sample of games to know a large enough sample of games to know if

01:08:10.060 --> 01:08:16.220
Minus is even good anymore. So it's 2200 maelstrom is 2950 so obviously clearly more expensive

01:08:16.580 --> 01:08:21.340
Maelstrom, however gives 10 less attacks people 25 more damage and the chain lightning for farming. I

01:08:22.100 --> 01:08:25.500
Just feel like if you're in this game in this mode, it's better

01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:31.180
Nice little kill here, about a four boundless strike on just making him into the Unipane

01:08:31.180 --> 01:08:34.840
screen and they will lose their polish for it.

01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.640
Trades of supports, although Amar might be in some trouble, gonna take a full sonic wave

01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:39.640
to the face.

01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:44.400
A lot of right click damage to no one, another wheel of wonder but he's resigned to his death.

01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:48.160
He'll take out nine class in the midst of all this but a double kill for no one.

01:08:48.160 --> 01:08:52.800
So paravision, staying active and they are getting core kills every now and then

01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:56.000
but they're not really doing anything about the alchemist at the moment.

01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.800
I'm R trading and 1v3 is quite decent though.

01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:05.700
When you think about it probably was a way to play that where you didn't lose to

01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:07.600
Kallus, but at the end of the world.

01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:11.800
I don't know, I'm not to talk too much more about mines.

01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:17.300
I just find it interesting because conceptually, again, Kallus just came back to life.

01:09:17.300 --> 01:09:19.200
Full Sunray takes them out, no one.

01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:22.500
Gonna try to chase Crypt, thinking better of it now is Mal-Reen is the one

01:09:22.500 --> 01:09:27.540
they would love to kill off. There's the Scream of Pain into the Boundless Strike. SSS has Doom

01:09:27.540 --> 01:09:34.500
available. We'll use it. That'll be a dead Beastmaster. The Egg is slashed, and the rest of Paravision walk away.

01:09:34.500 --> 01:09:39.300
There was a possible Doom steal there. I don't know if he actually misclicked or if he just

01:09:39.300 --> 01:09:42.820
stole right before the Doom was cast, but that's obviously a dream spell to steal here

01:09:42.820 --> 01:09:47.700
against Queen of Pain. That's an amazing pick up for Rubik, but he gets level four Tame the

01:09:47.700 --> 01:09:54.200
Beast which is also a great spell in fairness. We actually want to fight still despite not having Malarine, Nightcloth dead to rights again.

01:09:54.840 --> 01:10:00.780
Not a move part of vision works. Supports are melting here for paravision it feels like. And of course while all this is happening

01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:07.700
Yeah, nobody can keep up with Alchemist. Well, it's funny that I mean we're talking about this axe the Beastmaster Malarine

01:10:07.700 --> 01:10:11.460
He's still building axe. He's gonna have it for like 30 seconds.

01:10:12.340 --> 01:10:14.400
Okay, now that he's buying it after this

01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:22.320
I'm not. Hmm. Okay. I mean maybe he'll have it for like a minute and then we give to so a minute of farm with the eyes

01:10:22.320 --> 01:10:26.280
Could be good as oh boy. How many deaths is this now for?

01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:28.640
That's it.

01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:34.240
So much more. Yeah, it's just he's had three of them in the last two minutes. Yeah, I guess you'd think

01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:38.960
Think I'm more in total night satanic gonna get spotted here by snaking, but

01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.080
Nobody to make the move with it will still scare off satanic for now

01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:50.400
Alright, we should count the time when this Ag's is finished on Beastmaster, how long he actually has it before it's gifted.

01:10:50.400 --> 01:10:59.400
The reason I liked this idea from Malarine was that I thought after drums he was going to get yet another strong item for, let's say, 20 minutes.

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I mean, he's obviously going to get that eventually, but now you're running into the whole each component isn't really great on Ag's.

01:11:05.400 --> 01:11:09.400
And maybe you could have built something bigger. You could have started building BKB, right?

01:11:09.400 --> 01:11:11.640
and then you get those items at the same time.

01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:15.080
But, well, the components of BKB are also underwhelming,

01:11:15.080 --> 01:11:16.600
so I guess it kind of doesn't matter.

01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.920
What if he gifts it before he finishes Ag's?

01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:19.960
That would be a disaster.

01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:22.360
I think maybe he could have bought Blink, actually.

01:11:22.360 --> 01:11:23.640
I think that could have been nice.

01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:25.880
There needs to be good communication here, Cinder.

01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:29.160
The Blink has one or two moves before you get gifted an Ag's,

01:11:29.160 --> 01:11:34.680
and, yeah, I genuinely think they'll finish them at the same time once.

01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:35.640
Let's see, though.

01:11:36.360 --> 01:11:37.000
Snake King.

01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:39.000
Nice balance on the two.

01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:43.840
The whip and snaking is dead another knife hitting the mar in the back

01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:51.040
Over and over and over DJ Khaled on the ring master as a hurricane pike will keep him more safe for the time

01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:56.560
Hey, I think so wants the family conks command another balance strike. TPs are coming

01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:01.760
There's a mar getting doomed getting whipped satanic wants to finish on though eventually get the kill

01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:03.240
But it's gonna be the cost of the monkey King

01:12:03.240 --> 01:12:06.240
Oh, he gets boxed at the last moment Valoran does not have the axe

01:12:06.240 --> 01:12:10.160
So he's not that much of a threat right now another wheel of wonder forcing Valorant to look the other way

01:12:10.160 --> 01:12:13.200
The axes do get the kill on the satanic

01:12:13.200 --> 01:12:19.640
But still four kills overall for paravision such a mind game there imagine monkey king just jumps to

01:12:20.080 --> 01:12:22.080
quote unquote a bad

01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:26.960
Statue then the axes are gonna miss but Malrin assumed he would jump to the one furthest away

01:12:27.280 --> 01:12:33.620
Okay, right, but it's the trade by the great. I really want to pay attention part of this 30 seconds death timer for Malrin

01:12:33.620 --> 01:12:40.480
Yeah, the eggs will be finished on alchemist before oh wait, he just switched his build

01:12:42.220 --> 01:12:46.260
Now rain just we can't do that until he buys okay now he switched back

01:12:53.900 --> 01:12:58.720
We'll see is Viper strike again, but this one won't result in a kill no one kills crit as well

01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:02.980
So more successful moves for Parvish and a lot of kills back-to-back now, okay?

01:13:02.980 --> 01:13:06.760
He just purchased the Ags on Beastmaster being delivered now

01:13:08.400 --> 01:13:11.380
Alchemist as well literally the same time

01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:16.800
Okay, that was

01:13:19.660 --> 01:13:25.020
Well, now there's a PKB on Malrin part of me wishes we have seen him gifted before I'm just gonna buy blink

01:13:25.020 --> 01:13:29.820
Okay, so with this order if you want this specific timing of X plus BKB right now

01:13:29.820 --> 01:13:34.140
This would have been the exact same as more or less as if you bought the BKB first

01:13:34.140 --> 01:13:39.200
Yeah, so it's it's just funny that it lines up this perfectly and it looks kind of ridiculous

01:13:39.200 --> 01:13:44.300
But it makes sense if these were the items he wanted anyway because once again BKB's components aren't any better

01:13:44.820 --> 01:13:48.980
than the agonist as a matter of fact the agonist components are better than that

01:13:50.020 --> 01:13:54.660
For Beastmaster so all right here. We are he's got the BKB now and he's gonna go play

01:13:55.020 --> 01:14:06.900
for mentor time for Ari will it be sproink or will it be spotlight if you'd

01:14:06.900 --> 01:14:11.860
rather have the sproink here will not be the case though it's kind of weird to

01:14:11.860 --> 01:14:16.020
watch monkey king having that Midas and then still being lowest net worth of the

01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:21.540
course afterwards yeah I know it hasn't been that long it's obviously gonna pay

01:14:21.540 --> 01:14:28.660
more for itself just hasn't really paid off in the in a maybe as much as you

01:14:28.660 --> 01:14:31.540
would have liked once again I actually think his network would have been high

01:14:31.540 --> 01:14:40.620
if he went now strong but okay Falcons want to fight Malrin you can see on the

01:14:40.620 --> 01:14:46.140
net worth being gifted things from the Alk is way in front now he's gonna get

01:14:46.140 --> 01:14:49.580
The roar again, the recipient is Dukalis.

01:14:51.580 --> 01:14:54.620
And waste any time there using roar and Viper Strike.

01:14:54.620 --> 01:14:58.380
Obviously Viper Strike cooldown is very short, so not a big deal.

01:14:59.460 --> 01:15:01.900
We love wonder, gonna find another support here.

01:15:02.420 --> 01:15:03.620
Snake King takes the tumble.

01:15:03.620 --> 01:15:05.140
He actually had the chance to egg there.

01:15:05.140 --> 01:15:06.900
I think that would have been a good egg.

01:15:06.900 --> 01:15:09.140
That might have baited Satanic to stay and hit it once or twice

01:15:09.140 --> 01:15:11.300
and then reinforcements were actually arriving.

01:15:12.220 --> 01:15:13.220
But...

01:15:13.220 --> 01:15:15.220
It managed better of it.

01:15:15.220 --> 01:15:16.220
Yeah.

01:15:16.220 --> 01:15:21.220
Well, Satanic, a lot of BKBs being built at the moment.

01:15:21.220 --> 01:15:23.220
Double Blinks.

01:15:23.220 --> 01:15:26.220
It looks like Skeeter and Malrin just want to play the same game.

01:15:26.220 --> 01:15:29.220
Now they get Blink exactly simultaneously too.

01:15:29.220 --> 01:15:31.220
It's pretty fun to see.

01:15:31.220 --> 01:15:33.220
I don't know if I've ever seen that before.

01:15:33.220 --> 01:15:35.220
Two heroes pick up X at the exact same time

01:15:35.220 --> 01:15:38.220
and then pick up Blink at the exact same time right after.

01:15:38.220 --> 01:15:39.220
They're in sync.

01:15:39.220 --> 01:15:40.220
Yep, they are.

01:15:40.220 --> 01:15:42.220
When you play with each other enough, Cinder, and that just happens.

01:15:42.220 --> 01:15:43.180
This has to be a smoke, right?

01:15:43.180 --> 01:15:43.680
Yeah.

01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:44.180
It is.

01:15:44.180 --> 01:15:47.940
Because this timing is way too strong to...

01:15:47.940 --> 01:15:49.100
Music fix.

01:15:49.100 --> 01:15:50.660
Music?

01:15:50.660 --> 01:15:52.100
Is this like an eternal envy thing?

01:15:52.100 --> 01:15:54.020
Remember that?

01:15:54.020 --> 01:15:55.060
What was it?

01:15:55.060 --> 01:16:00.540
It was at the BTS tournament, the summit, where he was adamant.

01:16:00.540 --> 01:16:04.340
He had to listen to music while he played a match.

01:16:04.340 --> 01:16:05.980
And technically, it was against the rules.

01:16:05.980 --> 01:16:07.740
And there was some drama there.

01:16:07.740 --> 01:16:09.260
Isn't that weird, though, listening to it?

01:16:09.260 --> 01:16:10.540
That is such a zoomer thing.

01:16:10.540 --> 01:16:12.660
That's like a Jenkins thing.

01:16:12.660 --> 01:16:15.860
This needs to be listening to some God-awful slop

01:16:15.860 --> 01:16:17.900
while you're playing and trying to communicate with your team.

01:16:17.900 --> 01:16:19.820
That's to be slops.

01:16:19.820 --> 01:16:21.740
Well, with Jenkins, it actually is.

01:16:21.740 --> 01:16:22.620
I've seen this firsthand.

01:16:22.620 --> 01:16:23.620
It's embarrassing.

01:16:23.620 --> 01:16:24.120
Yeah.

01:16:24.120 --> 01:16:25.220
I'm associated with him.

01:16:25.220 --> 01:16:26.740
Yeah.

01:16:26.740 --> 01:16:28.460
You just know how to pick him, don't you?

01:16:28.460 --> 01:16:30.260
Yeah.

01:16:30.260 --> 01:16:31.300
Yeah, well, I picked you too.

01:16:31.300 --> 01:16:32.020
Yeah, that's right.

01:16:32.020 --> 01:16:32.620
There you go.

01:16:32.620 --> 01:16:33.260
House.

01:16:33.260 --> 01:16:35.940
You, Slacks, and Jenkins, I think are the three I've

01:16:35.940 --> 01:16:36.740
been the most with.

01:16:36.740 --> 01:16:38.660
The track record is great.

01:16:38.660 --> 01:16:40.420
You got it right with Nicky though, so that's good.

01:16:40.420 --> 01:16:43.020
Yeah, broken clock and all that true

01:16:44.900 --> 01:16:48.700
Smoke from Falcons now they want to show off these newly picked up link daggers

01:16:49.580 --> 01:16:53.100
Haven't been too aggressive yet for the Falcons side, but of course they feel very confident

01:16:53.100 --> 01:16:59.060
I mean, we didn't really talk about that but late game do you favor one team or another like we've talked about how doom and co-op?

01:16:59.380 --> 01:17:01.380
Specifically are yeah sane

01:17:02.180 --> 01:17:05.220
And later on the support side do call us on the edge

01:17:05.820 --> 01:17:07.820
and come into a threat

01:17:07.820 --> 01:17:12.820
Late enough, I think I like the Radiant better, but I will give the support advantage to the dire.

01:17:12.820 --> 01:17:16.820
I mean, Rubik, Phoenix, you're going to be struggling to find higher impact late game supports than that.

01:17:16.820 --> 01:17:18.820
I think Ringmaster will fall off comparatively.

01:17:18.820 --> 01:17:26.820
Ench has games where she can, you know, also pop off late, but Drakalus has five deaths, so that will be very late.

01:17:26.820 --> 01:17:28.820
That that would be a major factor.

01:17:28.820 --> 01:17:36.820
Also, he's not going to Ryklipville, and she's actually going for the Ags first, so he'll get little friends for the root.

01:17:36.820 --> 01:17:40.820
Oh, he actually does buy Axe on Viper. Okay.

01:17:40.820 --> 01:17:44.820
And a Snake Gang. Ooh, nice Infernal Blade mid-flight.

01:17:44.820 --> 01:17:48.820
Another Death to the Phoenix. He has died eight times.

01:17:48.820 --> 01:17:52.820
Oh my. That's a lot.

01:17:52.820 --> 01:17:56.820
Yeah, that's the... maybe you thought he was to call us. Maybe we're counting deaths.

01:18:00.820 --> 01:18:04.820
Been in pain with the Bloodstone pick up very early here from no one.

01:18:04.820 --> 01:18:10.820
Bloodstone immediately so it doesn't have sometimes we see build up items into

01:18:10.820 --> 01:18:19.180
this. He went straight for the big ones so a strong timing for sure.

01:18:26.540 --> 01:18:30.580
It's weird. Is he gonna be building more axe that's what everyone wants to know.

01:18:30.580 --> 01:18:37.260
Yeah, considering Viper bought one, I'm assuming he wants to buy him one, but he is killing a BKB on skidder.

01:18:37.260 --> 01:18:41.420
I was surprised to see him amar by the agonim, so I didn't think he was actually gonna get it this game.

01:18:41.420 --> 01:18:45.300
But maybe Nose Dive is just really valuable against Monkey King.

01:18:45.300 --> 01:18:48.440
How often do we see Hurricane Pike aggs as the items?

01:18:48.440 --> 01:18:57.860
Not that common, I would say, but I can see where he's coming from here with being able to Nose Dive out of Wukong's command or getting on top of Monkey King and just really ruining his fight.

01:18:57.860 --> 01:18:59.860
No.

01:18:59.860 --> 01:19:01.860
AirVision going for Roche.

01:19:01.860 --> 01:19:03.860
They are aware that Falcon's no...

01:19:03.860 --> 01:19:05.860
Oh, that smoke is very visible.

01:19:05.860 --> 01:19:07.860
...and Ducales. He's gonna pop it.

01:19:07.860 --> 01:19:09.860
Blink out now for Mal-Reen.

01:19:09.860 --> 01:19:12.860
The nature's attendance already running for Ducales,

01:19:12.860 --> 01:19:14.860
since they are still smoked with four heroes.

01:19:14.860 --> 01:19:17.860
Satanic on the trees are gonna find him more to start things out.

01:19:17.860 --> 01:19:19.860
He's a tough target.

01:19:19.860 --> 01:19:22.860
As he is. He gets the Viper Strike very long range.

01:19:22.860 --> 01:19:24.860
Nose dies, it really hit anybody,

01:19:24.860 --> 01:19:26.860
but you can see the Enchantress stuck in a corner here.

01:19:26.860 --> 01:19:30.140
by Skeeter gonna walk outside the Wukong's command the wheel of one or not hitting anyone

01:19:30.700 --> 01:19:35.660
So some spells not hitting the mark for paravision is malarine jumps in with the roar

01:19:35.660 --> 01:19:38.060
But the box is going to be there for the save egg on the high ground

01:19:38.060 --> 01:19:42.460
It's going to force satanic out with the bkb get the balance strike for the box stolen apparently

01:19:42.460 --> 01:19:48.780
As the spotlight right on top of him to get the stun onto the quap into the telekinesis into the kill no one dead

01:19:49.900 --> 01:19:51.900
The player that is yep

01:19:51.980 --> 01:19:55.980
Thank you for a specific and with that falcons can likely go for roche here

01:19:55.980 --> 01:19:57.980
Leave no space for a joke, thank you.

01:19:58.980 --> 01:20:00.980
Well, that's big.

01:20:01.980 --> 01:20:04.980
First real teamfight of the game it feels like.

01:20:04.980 --> 01:20:11.980
A lot of them have been like smaller engagements and one team just initiating a little bit of a counter toward the end, but that was a 5 on 5 clash.

01:20:12.980 --> 01:20:19.980
And Amar with his build, a lot of value there in having both mobility items was able to, like you said, the nose dive didn't actually hit,

01:20:19.980 --> 01:20:24.980
but it put him in a really good position here to chase down and force the inch out of the fight.

01:20:24.980 --> 01:20:27.980
of the fight, they get the concoction onto the Queen of Pain here to put some pressure

01:20:27.980 --> 01:20:34.380
immediately and he avoids the Wheel of Wonder and kind of maximizes the impact in the fight.

01:20:34.380 --> 01:20:38.420
This is something Amar is very good at when he's playing tanky heroes, is taking damage.

01:20:38.420 --> 01:20:45.660
I think some players don't leverage that enough, like it's your job to get hit, but

01:20:45.660 --> 01:20:49.220
obviously you want to balance it so you don't just get hit for nothing and he took,

01:20:49.220 --> 01:20:53.420
I want to say effectively like 3-4,000 damage there but didn't die, that's pretty much

01:20:53.420 --> 01:20:59.020
the dream Viper fight. I know it sounds riveting this hero is very interesting. Get hit and

01:20:59.020 --> 01:21:04.780
don't die at its core. There's a, there's a play stream as Maloraine already up and the

01:21:04.780 --> 01:21:09.620
hate for Ducales continues. Balance strike a little bit too late. Four minutes on this

01:21:09.620 --> 01:21:13.100
age is for Maloraine. Let's see how much work they can get done with it. Chris still

01:21:13.100 --> 01:21:17.860
has escape act. It's a very good spell in this game. He probably might even hold

01:21:17.860 --> 01:21:22.340
until it expires. This ability with cast range is crazy good.

01:21:22.340 --> 01:21:27.100
Yeah, and he has the shard as well on Rubik, so a second way to save.

01:21:27.100 --> 01:21:32.700
They're going to smoke again, all right. Balkans humping the pace.

01:21:32.700 --> 01:21:38.340
They could have a third way to save if Skeeter will just get off his high horse and gift

01:21:38.340 --> 01:21:42.500
Snake King and Ags for God's sake. Yeah, everyone wants to see it.

01:21:42.500 --> 01:21:45.700
Semi-save with a berserk potion as well to some extent

01:21:48.660 --> 01:21:53.260
Skater will gate top use concoction and stun himself and stay in smoke

01:21:54.700 --> 01:21:59.540
Not find a connection. They know where no one is now though. He was screener do daggers from the top

01:21:59.540 --> 01:22:02.700
Can they kill him with the two of them? I feel it's gonna be close

01:22:03.340 --> 01:22:08.140
We're gonna try for concoctions to start sonic wave. Yes bloodstone. They can't kill it

01:22:08.140 --> 01:22:14.640
Get hit now. Sonic Wave was stolen though. That's gonna provide a lot of damage. He will blink out. Still slow to a crawl though.

01:22:16.140 --> 01:22:18.140
And no TPs.

01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:24.640
I don't really like that play to begin with. I feel like this duel of heroes just isn't strong enough to pull that off against a quap with Bloodstone.

01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:30.140
Even if they did it perfectly, I think he still doesn't die. Keep in mind he gave them Sonic and they still didn't kill him.

01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:32.140
So... yeah.

01:22:32.140 --> 01:22:36.600
Maybe a bit of a miss there from Falcons at the very least it puts some pressure and gets him out of the area

01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:40.760
So you take control back of your own jungle which might have been the primary point of that move anyway

01:22:41.400 --> 01:22:47.020
Wasn't necessarily to kill but just to force a response and that response is leaving

01:22:49.500 --> 01:22:51.900
My PKB now for Skeeter

01:22:52.940 --> 01:22:57.300
Yep, and we'll likely just continue on his own path instead of gifting more eggs

01:22:57.300 --> 01:23:02.000
but I kind of would like him to gift Amar the eggs next because I think in this

01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:05.240
game state now you're pretty comfortable you can get a bit greedy with it

01:23:05.240 --> 01:23:11.100
snaking will die for the ninth time this game. I think if he were to give the

01:23:11.100 --> 01:23:15.600
eggs to Viper now Amar, Amar is the type of offlaner you want to gift

01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:19.120
eggs to right he's gonna carry the game and you can just get more gold

01:23:19.120 --> 01:23:22.320
anyway I think this item build that skitter has now is gonna be relevant

01:23:22.320 --> 01:23:28.320
for the next five to ten minutes. So he could another axe let Amar scale down.

01:23:28.320 --> 01:23:31.920
That's onto Mal-Reen. A bit low on mana. The Viper's trying to onto the doom right now.

01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:36.160
Mal-Reen gets off the roar of the quub. Not much follow-up though. I say that.

01:23:36.160 --> 01:23:39.920
The Sonic Road is still there, but no one ends up popping the Bloodstone and will survive.

01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:44.880
Amar takes out Satanic inside of the Wukong. With the buyback now,

01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:47.520
you can see the egg already placed from Snake King.

01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:55.040
No one should be fine, but again, Satanic seems to be the one core that just keeps dying.

01:23:55.040 --> 01:24:01.040
Didn't really mention SSS6 and 0 on Doom has not died yet, very impressive in a game like

01:24:01.040 --> 01:24:02.920
this with so much skirmishing going on.

01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:04.720
And very lore accurate too.

01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:07.320
If he really wants to play into it, he needs to die six times in a row now with

01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:08.320
no assists.

01:24:08.320 --> 01:24:09.800
6-0-6, yeah, true.

01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:15.600
That'll obviously try to make every single spell in the game on Doom something with

01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:18.440
6 because they love epic memes.

01:24:18.440 --> 01:24:19.440
Yeah.

01:24:19.440 --> 01:24:20.440
They're going to get the doom now.

01:24:20.440 --> 01:24:22.600
It's not using that fight, apparently.

01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:25.680
Oh, 9-class is trying to look for more.

01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:27.440
What are the three spells?

01:24:27.440 --> 01:24:28.440
Oh, there's the bike!

01:24:28.440 --> 01:24:29.440
He's coming!

01:24:29.440 --> 01:24:30.440
Okay, 9-class!

01:24:30.440 --> 01:24:32.440
He hits a tree!

01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:33.440
Whip!

01:24:33.440 --> 01:24:34.440
Okay.

01:24:34.440 --> 01:24:35.440
Not enough.

01:24:35.440 --> 01:24:37.160
This chase might not be done yet.

01:24:37.160 --> 01:24:38.840
He's got TP support scombing.

01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:44.080
9-class is literally AFK just running towards him.

01:24:44.080 --> 01:24:51.620
about overplaying all this stuff yet there's another unicycle he wanted crit gone the call

01:24:51.620 --> 01:25:00.000
was rubik has sonic wave kill him again that was in reality not really that close maybe

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.000
if no one could have connected with a blink but he was not interested in going onto the

01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:13.360
tower fair how would argue satanic working on a spotty right now yeah and he's more

01:25:13.360 --> 01:25:15.920
They're going to get Roar in the 20th time this game.

01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.040
No one is there to help back him out though.

01:25:18.040 --> 01:25:19.040
Aegis is expiring now.

01:25:19.040 --> 01:25:20.040
This is a good timing.

01:25:20.040 --> 01:25:23.760
Yeah, Malorane recognized me, but gravity of the situation.

01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:24.760
I'm looking for the TP.

01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:26.760
He goes for the Roar instead.

01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:27.760
Oh, that's it.

01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:32.360
Sonic Wave hits absolutely nothing, but Malorane's still dead.

01:25:32.360 --> 01:25:34.440
And for once, Snake King will survive.

01:25:34.440 --> 01:25:36.040
No double digit deaths yet.

01:25:36.040 --> 01:25:39.560
The execution could have used a little love there from Parvish, but the play

01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.280
call was very good.

01:25:42.280 --> 01:25:43.280
Excellent timing.

01:25:43.280 --> 01:25:48.040
is expiring and into a tormentor so a really good macro play overall this could

01:25:48.040 --> 01:25:54.640
be big they still gonna to go to monkey king let's see to get lucky no oh this

01:25:54.640 --> 01:26:00.880
one's also very good to be honest Sprink yeah but you want satanic to get a little

01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.840
love here yeah

01:26:06.400 --> 01:26:11.440
still ways away behind the elk and beast master and what's keeping in mind

01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:15.440
Killing Beast is obviously extra good because he's top net worth in the game courtesy of Alc.

01:26:15.440 --> 01:26:19.440
What did Skeeter just buy? Oh, he bought an axe.

01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:24.440
Yeah, and I'm assuming this one goes to Viper over the support options and it will.

01:26:24.440 --> 01:26:28.440
So now Amar is going to get a full BKB off of this. I really like this.

01:26:28.440 --> 01:26:32.440
I think this was the perfect time to do it for Alc.

01:26:32.440 --> 01:26:36.440
I think he wanted the other items in between to kind of bridge the gap.

01:26:36.440 --> 01:26:41.960
Congratulations all the deep you are dead at a tenth time. Oops, uh, that's

01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.800
It's like half of his team's deaths are on the Phoenix and they

01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:53.120
It's like one of the best heroes to just keep dying on because it still can have mega impact with nothing like this is

01:26:54.040 --> 01:26:59.280
Yeah, I to me it's the best five of the patch like you're you're strong and lame you have insane team fight

01:26:59.280 --> 01:27:03.600
You have very good scaling potential you can be a pinata or you can be a own up the game

01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:08.700
and in every single version I think Phoenix always offers a threat legame.

01:27:08.700 --> 01:27:14.580
Now I would like to see snaking by the shard here, I think over what seems to be a pipe,

01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:20.260
but now that he has the components he's probably gonna finish it. The shard could have been very good too.

01:27:22.620 --> 01:27:25.220
Pressure on the tower, no Phoenix, our vision.

01:27:25.900 --> 01:27:28.860
Still not confident to continue fully.

01:27:29.660 --> 01:27:32.140
No one has picked up a Lincoln's against the roar.

01:27:32.140 --> 01:27:38.700
for some protection. There's a lot of ways to break it though. Like into Rubik, insane

01:27:38.700 --> 01:27:42.480
cast range, you can just press fateful, then use a break it, you can press spell steal to

01:27:42.480 --> 01:27:50.160
break it. So I'm not sure just how valuable this item is in this game, we'll see though.

01:27:50.160 --> 01:27:57.320
Get where he's coming from of course. And if nothing else they have to use two spells.

01:27:57.320 --> 01:28:01.200
Another Lincoln's. Right, they really want to triple Lincoln's.

01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:06.080
Beastmaster is an olifier, so he can break it himself if Rubik isn't around to help him.

01:28:06.080 --> 01:28:09.520
Last time I've seen triple Lincoln's on the cores for a team.

01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:10.020
Yeah.

01:28:11.200 --> 01:28:14.640
Very targeted builds. Very strong timing here for both teams.

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.000
Amar is very strong.

01:28:18.400 --> 01:28:22.080
Yes, he is. A balanced strike. Luckily, this is a congregation comes out as well,

01:28:22.080 --> 01:28:24.400
but now the roar onto the Doom. This might be his first step in the game.

01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:28.320
Sonic Wave onto three heroes. It's not nearly enough, so Doom is dead.

01:28:28.320 --> 01:28:34.820
And there's the dive in from Amar, breaks the Enchantress, one more death for the road on Dukalis incoming.

01:28:36.120 --> 01:28:41.320
Falcon showing their top two net worths in that Viper Beastmaster combo.

01:28:41.820 --> 01:28:48.320
That's a costly mistake and a clutch play at the same time, so SSS did not use BKB when he went for the blink doom.

01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:57.320
He got insta-lifted by Crit. Like clearly Falcons were just baiting the Viper, they're sending him out in front and hoping that par vision would jump on him, and they did.

01:28:57.320 --> 01:29:01.240
I hope we had a replay of that, that was INSTANT.

01:29:01.240 --> 01:29:02.240
On the left side.

01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:03.240
Titanic.

01:29:03.240 --> 01:29:04.240
Another.

01:29:04.240 --> 01:29:05.240
And he gets lifted now.

01:29:05.240 --> 01:29:07.240
TP's coming, spotlight will spot them.

01:29:07.240 --> 01:29:12.160
He's going to pop the BKB and he's going to TP, but do they have anything now?

01:29:12.160 --> 01:29:13.480
Good BKB usage.

01:29:13.480 --> 01:29:17.040
He couldn't get out because he was hit by the essence distiller.

01:29:17.040 --> 01:29:18.440
So he had to.

01:29:18.440 --> 01:29:22.920
If he had a shard, he could have probably escaped with that without using BKB, but

01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:25.000
doesn't have that as we established.

01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:28.680
yeah I feel like Chris playing and that's something right at this point

01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:36.920
surely he's not going to yet though wait I thought he was going Scotty yes oh he

01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:41.040
bought Lincoln switch to Lincoln so now he's going Scotty okay and it doesn't

01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:44.880
mean his item but his build doesn't actually hit at all yeah it does just

01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:50.200
has that so that's a hit yes deso and then two stat sticks so no damage item

01:29:50.200 --> 01:29:55.200
no nullifier, no abyssal to keep heroes in place.

01:29:55.700 --> 01:29:59.740
A little bit worried about output here, or parry vision.

01:29:59.740 --> 01:30:01.540
Like no one is to carry right now.

01:30:02.540 --> 01:30:04.600
Yep, the player.

01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:08.800
Thank you.

01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:11.400
Well, arguably, I think both meanings

01:30:11.400 --> 01:30:14.080
would be probably fair.

01:30:14.080 --> 01:30:15.720
An assault for Skeeter now.

01:30:17.160 --> 01:30:18.440
And he is going ag...

01:30:18.440 --> 01:30:20.940
Okay, is this a Rubik or a Phoenix Axe?

01:30:21.940 --> 01:30:24.940
To be fair, Stinking has died a lot.

01:30:24.940 --> 01:30:28.940
Congregations into the Doom, into the Sonic Wave, into the Boundless.

01:30:28.940 --> 01:30:31.940
This is the Burmese, even Wheel of Wonder, it's not enough

01:30:31.940 --> 01:30:33.940
as he tepees out in the midst of all of it.

01:30:33.940 --> 01:30:36.940
ParaVision has wasted so many resources now, Satanic.

01:30:36.940 --> 01:30:38.940
Has the Linkins applied for the Roar, still there

01:30:38.940 --> 01:30:42.940
and that is going to be an easy kill under the Position 1 for ParaVision.

01:30:42.940 --> 01:30:44.940
Maureen, Telekinesis saved.

01:30:44.940 --> 01:30:46.940
There's the Egg with the Sunray as well.

01:30:46.940 --> 01:30:52.660
SSS Tungkacian hitting two with the axes to follow, but now retreat mode for paravision.

01:30:52.660 --> 01:30:57.080
SSS trying with the congregation to deep again onto two with a whip as well, but it's not enough.

01:30:57.080 --> 01:30:59.300
They just don't do any damage to this lineup.

01:30:59.300 --> 01:31:01.440
Outplayed. Just outplayed, really.

01:31:01.440 --> 01:31:05.140
They drop everything on the Viper on the marge, just press this BKB and TP's out.

01:31:05.140 --> 01:31:08.380
They don't have any piercing abilities to stop it, so he will always get away.

01:31:08.380 --> 01:31:10.240
No bash or anything of that kind.

01:31:11.080 --> 01:31:14.180
And afterwards, just really excellent spell casting,

01:31:14.180 --> 01:31:17.380
Biting their time, breaking the Linkins and Monkeying into the roar.

01:31:18.020 --> 01:31:21.580
And that time, finally, Snakey gets a big teamfight,

01:31:22.080 --> 01:31:25.280
going his way with a nice X-Force-Sunray combination.

01:31:25.580 --> 01:31:26.480
Yeah, look at that.

01:31:26.780 --> 01:31:28.480
Queen of Pain versus the World.

01:31:29.580 --> 01:31:33.580
8k damage, he did the same as his teammates combined, times two almost.

01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:37.480
And that Monkeying 300 pitiful damage output.

01:31:38.280 --> 01:31:39.780
Titanic didn't really get to play it.

01:31:39.780 --> 01:31:44.300
Amar with the Aegis, okay?

01:31:44.300 --> 01:31:45.500
Yeah, I mean they're frontlining him.

01:31:45.500 --> 01:31:48.340
Maybe he buys his shard now and thinks about sieging high ground.

01:31:48.340 --> 01:31:49.340
I wouldn't mind it.

01:31:49.340 --> 01:31:50.620
Yeah, he's just queued it up.

01:31:50.620 --> 01:31:52.940
I think it's an excellent idea, just...

01:31:52.940 --> 01:31:55.500
Oh, sad news though for everybody out there.

01:31:55.500 --> 01:31:58.300
Skeeter has changed his mind on the Agumceptor and is going bash or nothing.

01:31:58.300 --> 01:32:01.940
Yeah, I think he changed his mind because they won that fight and got the Aegis.

01:32:01.940 --> 01:32:04.100
I think this is just him adapting to the circumstances.

01:32:04.100 --> 01:32:05.100
The comms are probably...

01:32:05.100 --> 01:32:08.340
We're gonna try to win with this Aegis or at least get a set.

01:32:08.340 --> 01:32:15.000
I mean, I love the way they've been structuring their item timings, I think it's very, very

01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.580
high level stuff here.

01:32:17.580 --> 01:32:20.420
So totally on board with the basher.

01:32:20.420 --> 01:32:22.220
He would have given it to Rubik.

01:32:22.220 --> 01:32:23.220
I think so too.

01:32:23.220 --> 01:32:26.100
But I think Snake King needs to be punished for dying 10 times in a game.

01:32:26.100 --> 01:32:28.100
You can't be gifted an axe after that, you know?

01:32:28.100 --> 01:32:29.740
That's just principle and all.

01:32:29.740 --> 01:32:35.100
Hell-free handouts here, except for everybody else.

01:32:35.100 --> 01:32:36.420
That's right.

01:32:36.420 --> 01:32:42.780
Okay, so bottom tower is going to fall here to Amar and with this creep wave he has enough gold for his shard

01:32:43.780 --> 01:32:47.940
So that will be picked up and brought out immediately, and I think yeah, they're just going to force high ground here

01:32:49.620 --> 01:32:53.980
Exceptionally powerful right now on the dire side. They have all spells ready

01:32:54.420 --> 01:33:00.180
Now Queen of Pain on defense can be a monster. You've got to be careful not to take too much

01:33:00.700 --> 01:33:04.160
AoE damage now you have the pipe on Phoenix to mitigate a decent chunk of it

01:33:04.160 --> 01:33:06.160
But if the fights are long enough

01:33:06.420 --> 01:33:08.420
It can become a problem

01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:16.520
Not enough mitigation in the world with you've seen what eight shadow strike acts usages in fights. That's so disgusting

01:33:18.320 --> 01:33:24.460
Yeah, going to work now with that shard for a more so they get so fast here twos of the bot and mid only

01:33:24.460 --> 01:33:29.420
That's the banner. It's gonna put it on crits and will be used immediately and up he goes

01:33:30.900 --> 01:33:34.520
You know a little bit of miss chance with the spotlight just delay tactics compare vision

01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:40.360
Put a mark and just very safely hit this tower with that poison attack.

01:33:40.360 --> 01:33:42.520
I'm going to go in with a nosedive.

01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.040
Oh, Decalus has put in a really weird spot.

01:33:45.040 --> 01:33:48.560
Nullified right now is the Wheel of Wonder again, not going to connect.

01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:50.840
They will be able to take out the banner.

01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:51.840
It's already done.

01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:52.840
The tower is already done.

01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:54.360
Yeah, they don't need it anymore.

01:33:54.360 --> 01:33:57.880
Now the focus onto the barracks is look at the lack of damage here.

01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:02.200
There is a crit now for Satanic, but it is a crystalless and not a dataless

01:34:02.200 --> 01:34:03.200
yet.

01:34:03.200 --> 01:34:04.200
Yep.

01:34:04.200 --> 01:34:09.160
Still two and a half on this Aegis they can certainly continue to go maybe waiting for these Lincoln's to be back up

01:34:09.160 --> 01:34:15.520
I mean why do you name yourself butterfly and then Satanic and then you don't buy the items this kid doing

01:34:16.080 --> 01:34:20.640
I was called butterfly for I don't think I didn't even know he was called but I think those is original nickname. I

01:34:21.200 --> 01:34:26.440
Could be wrong. There's got to be some of the most unoriginal nicknames of all time. Well, nobody else has had them in Pro Dota

01:34:26.440 --> 01:34:27.640
I mean I

01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:29.640
Should have named myself Dota. Yeah

01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:33.640
Imagine the best pro player in the world, they call Dota.

01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.640
Dude, that's hilarious. Somebody should do that.

01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:39.640
Great play by Dota.

01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:44.640
Why don't you just call yourself Icefrog? They're going to tell you to change it?

01:34:44.640 --> 01:34:45.640
Yeah, true.

01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:48.640
Gabe Newell? What is he going to say? Change your name.

01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:52.640
Honestly, this is great, I guess. I really hope somebody picks up on this and does it.

01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:54.640
Pro players can rename themselves whatever they want.

01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:56.640
You might as well try it, see what happens.

01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:57.640
Enjoy yourself.

01:34:57.640 --> 01:34:59.340
It's a band for life, of course.

01:34:59.340 --> 01:35:02.140
Telekinesis into the roar on top of Doom.

01:35:02.140 --> 01:35:03.100
He's dead.

01:35:03.100 --> 01:35:04.180
Does that buyback though?

01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:07.520
And a mark.

01:35:09.380 --> 01:35:11.380
Again, Wheel of Wonder, no connection.

01:35:12.400 --> 01:35:14.180
Wheel of Sausage.

01:35:14.180 --> 01:35:16.980
It's a really hard spell to hit without a setup.

01:35:16.980 --> 01:35:18.260
I definitely, it's hard to hit

01:35:18.260 --> 01:35:19.580
when you throw it like this every time.

01:35:19.580 --> 01:35:20.980
Critt's actually buying aggs himself.

01:35:20.980 --> 01:35:22.140
He's sick of waiting.

01:35:22.140 --> 01:35:23.740
Only a hundred away, actually.

01:35:23.740 --> 01:35:32.740
Amar should be able to get this melee. They do 4-5, but I feel like this is...

01:35:32.740 --> 01:35:37.740
Don't you just keep that for the tower? The next push, that's a Sonic wave.

01:35:37.740 --> 01:35:40.740
Might be enough to take out the Aegis it is.

01:35:40.740 --> 01:35:42.740
It's like left cooldown resets when you take melee ranks.

01:35:42.740 --> 01:35:43.740
Oh yeah, that's right.

01:35:43.740 --> 01:35:47.740
Amar with BKB into the 4 stats. Skeeter in very deep on top of the chanches.

01:35:47.740 --> 01:35:52.740
Not doing enough damage quite yet. The Sunray from Snake King doing a good chunk onto Ducalis,

01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:56.340
It's with Skeeter and company wanting to reset satanic already using the loo Kongs

01:35:56.500 --> 01:36:02.540
This is a shadow strike starting to stack up now satanic on the tree line jumps in with the bkb

01:36:02.540 --> 01:36:06.540
Sonic wait stolen only hitting one those the egg place. There's the doom

01:36:06.540 --> 01:36:12.340
They really want to kill them or and they will satanic though will be the sacrifice. It seems along with no one

01:36:14.100 --> 01:36:17.740
The SSS have to buy back for this fight. Yeah, I mean if they wanted to fight

01:36:17.740 --> 01:36:20.260
You had to right they wouldn't even have killed the viper without doom

01:36:20.260 --> 01:36:22.260
I just think it was a bad fight to take

01:36:22.260 --> 01:36:27.600
really forcing the issue but you can understand from their mindset they're

01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:32.580
just kind of getting bullied really hard and they just want to fight back no

01:36:32.580 --> 01:36:36.240
chance of doing that without the doom and they do make the play call to go it's

01:36:36.240 --> 01:36:41.600
just this viper the amount of resources you need to spend to kill him his entire

01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:45.080
team is just playing a free fight yes you do kill him but you're getting

01:36:45.080 --> 01:36:54.440
through 4,000 HP, corrosive skin, and Aegis, and a Manta, Lincoln's BKB pill, it's so so

01:36:54.440 --> 01:36:58.200
so expensive to bring him down. You're not going to win the fight, I think, but it's

01:36:58.200 --> 01:37:01.080
a damage if you do damage if you don't situation, you kind of have to deal them.

01:37:01.080 --> 01:37:05.720
My class, let me get Alan. Alright, back concoction, set it up, and

01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:09.800
they're going to go for the secondary support in Dukales. He takes a full roar

01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:13.720
and he evaporates. My goodness, where did his body even go?

01:37:13.720 --> 01:37:28.220
So, 4 dead for ParaVision, they all have Bi-Backs, and they're going to have to use it here pretty soon if they want to defend, although the 2 cores up relatively soon, so this will be another set though, no doubt about it.

01:37:28.220 --> 01:37:37.220
Yeah. They're going to force Bi-Backs here too. I don't see any reason not to. You have the outpost, survivor can TP and connect with them.

01:37:37.220 --> 01:37:39.220
I don't quite get the melee.

01:37:39.220 --> 01:37:42.500
It's a prism. I mean maybe they're a little bit worried about by Vex potentially

01:37:42.500 --> 01:37:46.020
But I think they'll stick around and go for round two when they have for Oregon

01:37:46.740 --> 01:37:51.780
So yeah, they're not going anywhere and we see eggs now for Chris. So that's to oh my god

01:37:51.780 --> 01:37:57.940
He has sonic wave and shallow strike. Oh, he's shit. He's a better co-op already. This is actually I don't even give it

01:37:57.940 --> 01:38:02.700
You don't give these up surely right what better steals other. I mean do my best choice to you

01:38:03.260 --> 01:38:05.260
That's so good smells like

01:38:06.820 --> 01:38:08.820
Yeah, that's true

01:38:09.220 --> 01:38:17.940
All right, Amar focusing now on the mid lane telekinesis not gonna be getting the kill there as they force out the enchantress by back

01:38:18.700 --> 01:38:20.700
Krayt has been beast note this game

01:38:22.420 --> 01:38:25.200
Probably overall my MVP of the game to be honest like

01:38:25.820 --> 01:38:33.100
Very clutch plays in multiple fights great steals that made play with the instant telekinesis counter play to the doom was really what opened up the

01:38:33.100 --> 01:38:34.580
game for them and

01:38:34.580 --> 01:38:37.260
Now he's trying to finish it off in style like you said

01:38:37.260 --> 01:38:42.620
I don't think he's going to exchange these spells unless he steals Doom and don't there's no upgrade he can find over these

01:38:43.420 --> 01:38:47.660
Shadow Strike 2.8 second cooldown. I think shadow strike is more

01:38:48.260 --> 01:38:51.620
This may be a hot take more valuable than do on rubik

01:38:53.340 --> 01:38:59.020
It depends on a wave. I could the doom is definitely been a sonic wave. I remember it's an axe doom as well

01:38:59.340 --> 01:39:01.140
So breaks

01:39:01.140 --> 01:39:05.180
It's pretty damn good. I mean, what's the break even good against your jingu? Yeah

01:39:05.180 --> 01:39:11.900
Chantress. It's kind of whatever I suppose. I'll say it's a close call because

01:39:11.900 --> 01:39:16.460
Machado Strike on the other hand is extremely easy to steal. So you can

01:39:16.460 --> 01:39:19.980
always get it again. The baller move is to doom yourself.

01:39:19.980 --> 01:39:24.340
They're gonna put everything onto a mark and they kill this man. Sonic Wave comes out.

01:39:24.340 --> 01:39:29.260
He gets forced out. He's still doomed though. Might be dead to right but we'll see if they still

01:39:29.260 --> 01:39:33.540
fight here. The doom that's gonna be a dieback for him and now the egg with the

01:39:33.540 --> 01:39:35.540
Sunray sonic wave from no one

01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:42.860
That's incorrect. No, sonny do you kill the viper and he just buys back into the game and now that they've killed

01:39:43.620 --> 01:39:50.160
Nine class again. I believe that this game has ended to panic into the fountain. He goes but rubik

01:39:50.460 --> 01:39:55.540
Just getting all the steals he wants as GGs are officially called the falcon state game one

01:39:55.540 --> 01:40:00.060
I wonder how much damage Chris did in that fight. I think he got a four or five man shadow strike and sonic wave

01:40:00.060 --> 01:40:04.940
when they went on the Viper. And yeah, Parvishon faced the same issue once again.

01:40:04.940 --> 01:40:09.320
They feel like they have to go on a mar. They use absolutely everything and the

01:40:09.320 --> 01:40:13.200
rest of Falcons are just playing a completely free engagement. So strategically,

01:40:13.200 --> 01:40:16.440
the panel has been unsure about how this Viper was going to function. I'm going

01:40:16.440 --> 01:40:21.140
to say after watching that that was a beautiful last pick and right in their

01:40:21.140 --> 01:40:25.320
wheelhouse. Falcons very methodical and a very good win for them to start

01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:31.620
series yes couldn't agree more we were wondering who was gonna turn up we

01:40:31.620 --> 01:40:35.160
looked at the paravision draft thought they had a number of high priority heroes

01:40:35.160 --> 01:40:40.380
bit dubious about this Viper last pick been dubious about Viper in general but

01:40:40.380 --> 01:40:45.860
you know what Falcons no stuff we don't and great game from them this Viper

01:40:45.860 --> 01:40:49.260
this one surprised me I feel like you got way better of a lane than you

01:40:49.260 --> 01:40:53.980
should have had but overall Falcons they they showed up they this is the

01:40:53.980 --> 01:40:58.620
good Falcons yes so we've seen half of the time here yeah yeah I was gonna say

01:40:58.620 --> 01:41:03.980
when Falcons play a game the gods toss a coin yeah they do in this tournament for

01:41:03.980 --> 01:41:09.020
for some reason the interesting thing with Viper in this game is you know

01:41:09.020 --> 01:41:13.340
obviously Falcons has always been the sort of team that they have their own

01:41:13.340 --> 01:41:17.140
meta and regardless of what anybody else thinks about what heroes are good

01:41:17.140 --> 01:41:22.640
they will pick their meta Viper happens to fit within those heroes but

01:41:22.640 --> 01:41:26.520
But also with Alchemist in the game, it's kind of different.

01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:30.680
Like the set of heroes that are good with Alc are not necessarily this set of heroes that

01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:36.160
are good in Dota because you're getting a free Agnem Scepter, which he did get and set him

01:41:36.160 --> 01:41:38.520
to second on the net worth.

01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:43.120
So everything that he had from that good laning stage was also being amplified by

01:41:43.120 --> 01:41:46.080
the fact that he's getting all of these free stats.

01:41:46.080 --> 01:41:47.360
It meant he'd get a Lincoln Sphere.

01:41:47.360 --> 01:41:51.240
It meant he'd get Manta, BKB, these like very defensive items, literally four defensive

01:41:51.240 --> 01:41:57.420
items on Viper, so super tanky, able to front line in the fights, operates a lot differently

01:41:57.420 --> 01:41:59.540
from the mid Viper's that we've seen.

01:41:59.540 --> 01:42:03.580
I just want to be tanky, tank the Doom, since they have not a lot of damage actually on

01:42:03.580 --> 01:42:07.040
Terracide, since the Monkey had quite a bad game.

01:42:07.040 --> 01:42:10.740
Basically our Marge was like, all you have is Doom, kill it to me, and yeah, enjoy

01:42:10.740 --> 01:42:11.740
the game.

01:42:11.740 --> 01:42:15.220
But I want to talk about this Queen of Fame, again.

01:42:15.220 --> 01:42:17.620
I've seen this time and time again.

01:42:17.620 --> 01:42:22.780
They go for this Veil and Dragonance, I don't want to go into too much detail, but I feel

01:42:22.780 --> 01:42:27.420
like it's the worst option, Sanjkai will give you faster farm, I feel like the Veil

01:42:27.420 --> 01:42:32.460
doesn't blow everything down, so the axe timing, so your BKB timing, so it's pretty

01:42:32.460 --> 01:42:36.340
much like the entire game, and I feel like Queen was kind of a deciding factor here

01:42:36.340 --> 01:42:39.620
since they just had this monkey destroyed.

01:42:39.620 --> 01:42:43.620
Okay, I do want to go into detail actually.

01:42:43.620 --> 01:42:50.820
I feel like we're two big cloth enjoyers in Dota in general, and we've seen it a lot on this patch.

01:42:51.820 --> 01:42:57.420
We've seen the good ones, we've seen the bad ones, so I feel like we have a good amount of anecdotal evidence to pull from.

01:42:58.420 --> 01:43:02.920
I really agree with your point of, like, we were trying to figure out, like, what's the point of the Veil first?

01:43:04.120 --> 01:43:08.020
You know, part of it is, like, you're getting a little bit of sustain for the Soul Ring,

01:43:08.020 --> 01:43:12.500
although I feel like you probably already have that from like the built-in innate

01:43:13.060 --> 01:43:18.780
Lifesteal that she has so probably some for that in the fights you have more spell amp in the fights you have

01:43:19.500 --> 01:43:26.100
More tankiness, but it's like you said the agonum scepter is the most important timing and a kaya will get you to that

01:43:26.340 --> 01:43:30.900
Faster and more efficiently. I don't amplify your soul ring for example

01:43:30.900 --> 01:43:34.780
So it depends on what you want to do because in this game clearly like paravision could not fight

01:43:34.780 --> 01:43:40.860
So playing to have better fights makes a lot less sense and this guy's one of the reasons the fights look so hard

01:43:40.860 --> 01:43:44.220
I mean this became the queen this deals from him were crazy

01:43:44.220 --> 01:43:50.300
Yeah, like he even there's a few fights. He stole the sonic wave and it's just covering half the screen doing amplified damage

01:43:50.700 --> 01:43:55.660
Incredible play from Chris. I love it because it was so much important. He can play something other than hoodwink

01:43:57.580 --> 01:44:01.840
Why don't we take a look what happened in the early game? This is like four minutes. Yes

01:44:01.840 --> 01:44:07.640
This is the reason I feel like the game was so bad for Perry even though it's a good play from them

01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:10.800
So Nicholas comes in with a unicycle. He turns around the match up

01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:15.180
I think no one would have probably just died here if Nicholas wasn't here, but

01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:22.640
This shows that they're focusing on no one. This is not something they've done that much in this tournament

01:44:23.480 --> 01:44:28.760
The reason why satanic was having such great games was because they were kind of putting all their eggs into one basket

01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:34.520
that being satanic and this game he was abandoned. He was abandoned for no one. I don't think he

01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:40.120
liked it that much. I can tell because he died like three times in the first like seven to

01:44:40.120 --> 01:44:45.040
eight minutes of the game and the third death was miserable. He basically just respawned,

01:44:45.040 --> 01:44:49.400
he bit into a viper, he got ulted by the viper and died immediately after. And he just

01:44:49.400 --> 01:44:51.400
had such a slow game after that.

01:44:51.400 --> 01:44:56.120
We have talked about this, I mean paravision. It does feel like there's something simmering

01:44:56.120 --> 01:45:01.320
under the surface a little bit, we've seen no one be very emotional, you know, in his

01:45:01.320 --> 01:45:06.480
body language, in his reactions, we've had satanic, you know, hey, I did my job, you know,

01:45:06.480 --> 01:45:11.840
like a little bit of division, perhaps in the team, certainly in the morning days.

01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:15.960
It does remind me of my time actually with playing with Miracle. I feel like it's a

01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:21.640
different situation, right? They basically want to help him as much as possible. But

01:45:21.640 --> 01:45:42.640
At the same time, that means I'm going to suffer and at times I wasn't happy with that and basically I'll try to tell them guys please come mid, take the runes, help me out and it was almost always a struggle you know between the mid and the carry, are you going to help him, are you going to help me, if you help me, he's not going to be happy, if you help him, I'm not going to be happy so it's always like this constant struggle.

01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:44.640
I feel like it's very similar to Paris situation right now.

01:45:44.640 --> 01:45:50.640
Yeah and it does look that way. We've got a little kind of mid to late game team fight to break down.

01:45:50.640 --> 01:46:00.640
Yeah, we can continue on the topic of Satanic suffering, although is this the one where he eventually goes down?

01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:05.640
Oh yeah, here we go, here we go, saying Satanic will go down here.

01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:09.640
It felt like he was rushing a little bit.

01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:10.640
Not clicking BKB.

01:46:10.640 --> 01:46:17.640
Not clicking BKB until Super Lake getting screamed up onto the high ground or whatever happened there.

01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:19.900
his team just has to get out.

01:46:19.900 --> 01:46:21.380
Like this was a lot of the fights.

01:46:21.380 --> 01:46:23.840
Your boy's running in there with, you know,

01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:26.200
Midas into an Aegis.

01:46:26.200 --> 01:46:29.960
And like on this topic, I really feel like

01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:31.680
if there's one of these two cores,

01:46:31.680 --> 01:46:33.560
you're going to sacrifice in the game.

01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:35.800
It's got to be the guy with more experience.

01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:38.760
He's got a hunker down and just say,

01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:40.600
okay, if someone's, you know,

01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:41.960
Satanic's a young player,

01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:43.360
he's going to play with emotion.

01:46:43.360 --> 01:46:46.520
He's going to potentially feed if we don't help him.

01:46:46.520 --> 01:46:48.680
but he's gonna own, if we do help him,

01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:51.380
like no one is way more capable, I feel like,

01:46:51.380 --> 01:46:53.700
because of the experience of like,

01:46:53.700 --> 01:46:55.180
getting the short end of the stick in the game

01:46:55.180 --> 01:46:56.340
and still having a game.

01:46:56.340 --> 01:46:57.940
Mm-hmm, definitely.

01:46:57.940 --> 01:46:59.120
If it continues like this,

01:46:59.120 --> 01:47:01.020
Satanic might be dressing like you

01:47:01.020 --> 01:47:02.140
by the end of the series.

01:47:02.140 --> 01:47:04.220
Anyway, we're gonna take a quick break.

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Hey guys, we're asking the experts here today.

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Today we have Snare and we're going to talk about breakout players, top 5 breakout players.

01:48:58.320 --> 01:49:00.040
What does that mean a breakout player to you?

01:49:00.040 --> 01:49:03.360
A breakout player is like a prodigious player, emerges out of nowhere.

01:49:03.360 --> 01:49:07.560
Some kids who nobody knew could be that good but all of a sudden they show up and you

01:49:07.560 --> 01:49:09.480
realize that this is the future.

01:49:09.480 --> 01:49:10.480
They are the superstar.

01:49:10.480 --> 01:49:13.480
They're the person that's going to sort of carry Dota into the future.

01:49:13.480 --> 01:49:14.480
God damn!

01:49:14.480 --> 01:49:15.480
Alright, that's a big list.

01:49:15.480 --> 01:49:16.480
Okay.

01:49:16.480 --> 01:49:17.480
Who's number 5?

01:49:17.480 --> 01:49:20.560
Hmm, Satanic obviously is the easiest one to talk about, right?

01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:23.520
When Satanic showed up, he just changed the world, right?

01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.240
Let's go for number four, from Satanic in five.

01:49:26.240 --> 01:49:30.240
Thailand, I think he's a very strong, strong, strong candidate.

01:49:30.240 --> 01:49:32.400
One of these kids as well came from South America.

01:49:32.400 --> 01:49:34.560
He didn't really know what's happening in the South American scene.

01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:38.240
You wouldn't know just how good he is, so Thailand for sure.

01:49:38.240 --> 01:49:40.240
Let's stick to South America and say Parker, right?

01:49:40.240 --> 01:49:42.440
Even though Parker's a bit of an older player,

01:49:42.440 --> 01:49:45.880
a few years ago, not everybody knew just who this person was.

01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:49.560
When you see him on land, you very quickly understand what a carry player can really do.

01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:52.640
Hell, we're here at PGO Wallachia, he won the first one.

01:49:52.640 --> 01:49:53.640
That's where it happened.

01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:54.840
We need to know that can happen.

01:49:54.840 --> 01:49:55.840
Alright, number two.

01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:59.400
Number two, number two.

01:49:59.400 --> 01:50:00.400
Let me think.

01:50:00.400 --> 01:50:01.400
RCY?

01:50:01.400 --> 01:50:03.400
I like RCY a lot.

01:50:03.400 --> 01:50:06.160
RCY came through very quickly.

01:50:06.160 --> 01:50:09.840
Super high school player, very flashy kind of guy, does need, you know, probably

01:50:09.840 --> 01:50:13.200
a little bit more time to stew and mature, but definitely he's high up there.

01:50:13.200 --> 01:50:14.200
Okay.

01:50:14.200 --> 01:50:16.540
Number one breakout player.

01:50:16.540 --> 01:50:17.540
Number one breakout player.

01:50:17.540 --> 01:50:18.540
Yeah.

01:50:18.540 --> 01:50:19.780
I want to go for like a deep cut here.

01:50:19.780 --> 01:50:20.780
Okay, go ahead.

01:50:20.780 --> 01:50:21.780
Thank you.

01:50:21.780 --> 01:50:22.780
Give us a prediction.

01:50:22.780 --> 01:50:23.780
Who should we wouldn't expect?

01:50:23.780 --> 01:50:26.280
Someone wouldn't expect a breakout.

01:50:26.280 --> 01:50:27.280
Yeah.

01:50:27.280 --> 01:50:28.280
That's what it means.

01:50:28.280 --> 01:50:29.280
Low.

01:50:29.280 --> 01:50:30.280
Yes.

01:50:30.280 --> 01:50:31.280
I have actually a very good story about Low, right?

01:50:31.280 --> 01:50:32.280
Okay.

01:50:32.280 --> 01:50:36.180
So Low ended up winning a land a couple months ago, a couple years ago, Steve.

01:50:36.180 --> 01:50:40.440
Low won the land in Azure Gaming, who got very far at TI.

01:50:40.440 --> 01:50:44.060
The first time I saw him, he was playing in like some Div2 China team.

01:50:44.060 --> 01:50:47.700
And I remember watching him play, I think it was Phantom Launcher, if I remember correctly.

01:50:47.700 --> 01:50:51.660
And that day I literally messaged Lizard and I was like, yo, this guy is the future.

01:50:51.660 --> 01:50:52.660
This guy is the future.

01:50:52.660 --> 01:50:55.620
It took a few years for the prediction to pan out, but eventually we got there.

01:50:55.620 --> 01:50:57.740
So I think Lowe was a breakout talent.

01:50:57.740 --> 01:51:01.700
Not so sure how things are moving with him right now, but at the time I really had

01:51:01.700 --> 01:51:04.740
high hopes for his future and hopefully he can come back and impress us again.

01:51:04.740 --> 01:51:05.740
Fantastic.

01:51:05.740 --> 01:51:09.620
But we'll make sure to use this interview at TI 30 when he wins that one.

01:51:09.620 --> 01:51:12.140
So keep your eyes out for Lowe and keep your eyes out for Snare.

01:51:12.140 --> 01:51:13.140
Thanks a lot for your time.

01:51:13.140 --> 01:51:13.640
See you soon.

01:51:14.060 --> 01:51:26.700
Yes, welcome back, Snare is having a breakout tournament in my opinion, been loving listening

01:51:26.700 --> 01:51:31.740
to him, but for now we turn our attention to Falcons who are looking at breakout of

01:51:31.740 --> 01:51:36.420
the lower bracket by beating Paravish and you can see Puppy on your screen, no doubt

01:51:36.420 --> 01:51:38.580
he's had some opinions about this.

01:51:38.580 --> 01:51:43.860
This is definitely territory, they're familiar with in Paravish and it's the morning,

01:51:43.860 --> 01:51:48.420
They're losing the first game, they know how to get back into a series at this point.

01:51:48.420 --> 01:51:49.900
As is the fashion for now?

01:51:49.900 --> 01:51:51.060
Yes, tradition.

01:51:51.060 --> 01:51:55.660
So we should expect to see a different parry from now on, the two next series usually

01:51:55.660 --> 01:52:01.060
they do snowball the enemies, which is, yeah, we've been pretty much like what just happened

01:52:01.060 --> 01:52:05.980
over the entire tournament, I think Falcons being the greedy team they are, there's

01:52:05.980 --> 01:52:11.740
a very high risk of that happening, but Falcons are pretty good laners.

01:52:11.740 --> 01:52:20.460
I think this is where this is where the deciding factor comes in right like very usually snowballs because they get very good lanes and just I'll play their opponents

01:52:21.260 --> 01:52:23.020
That's how it goes

01:52:23.020 --> 01:52:29.580
Falcons, I don't think they're gonna crumble against Paris in the lanes at least but they will still play the late game as this fashion

01:52:29.580 --> 01:52:37.140
Yeah, that is true. I mean, that's how we saw Falcons beat spirit is they kind of just got a lead in the lanes and then

01:52:38.060 --> 01:52:39.820
didn't lose it

01:52:39.820 --> 01:52:40.900
it's

01:52:40.900 --> 01:52:48.060
Like I feel like Falcons has such an identity outside of like good laning and other teams have kind of gotten a lot better at

01:52:48.060 --> 01:52:49.480
Laning so we talk about it less

01:52:49.480 --> 01:52:53.840
But that was Falcons thing. Yes when they first came into being was like

01:52:53.840 --> 01:52:55.900
Okay, how do you beat these guys in the laning stage?

01:52:55.900 --> 01:53:01.080
And it does feel like it's going back to that where they're their first like five to six minutes is

01:53:01.700 --> 01:53:06.700
Incredibly good like the rune control the portal rotations, etc as we also talked about yesterday

01:53:06.700 --> 01:53:11.100
I mean they're not gonna throw a curveball into the drafts, you know, they're not very

01:53:11.940 --> 01:53:18.580
Versatile nobody flexes making same here. Yeah, they've they've got an idea about what heroes are good in this patch

01:53:18.580 --> 01:53:26.580
Or rather which ones they can utilize to their own maximum potential and then just get a farm and then hopefully we can close out again

01:53:26.580 --> 01:53:32.380
I saw something that bothered me last game when it comes to the mid lane matchups the Queen versus the Beast

01:53:32.380 --> 01:53:37.880
I feel like no one massively messed up on the lane. He had such a rough time

01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:44.720
He got a bad block for to start off and then he literally got two creeps tonight in the first wave

01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:48.780
While missing his spell and I feel like that you know as a millionaire

01:53:48.780 --> 01:53:54.180
That kind of puts you in a bad state when it comes to the lane onwards because the first wave is like

01:53:54.560 --> 01:54:00.100
Super important. It usually decides how the lane is gonna go and since he messed up really badly

01:54:00.100 --> 01:54:05.520
He kind of got a bad feeling and he just super struggled after that like Maureen

01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:11.360
Popped off he had like 10 denies 30 CS when no one had like 15 creeps and like one deny

01:54:11.360 --> 01:54:16.320
Yeah, it was crazy. It was sent back to base of like three minutes and 40 seconds for sure

01:54:16.320 --> 01:54:22.200
I would highly recommend I feel like I always recommend this guy, but check out Quinn's videos on YouTube

01:54:22.200 --> 01:54:29.260
He's been posting some insane knowledge bombs and he talks about this exact thing in the mid lane how like I don't think people realize

01:54:29.260 --> 01:54:34.460
If you have a bad block on the first wave, it can make a matchup go from like 50-50 to like

01:54:35.260 --> 01:54:40.380
30-70. Like legitimately the first wave is so impactful. And I even feel like

01:54:41.300 --> 01:54:44.340
midlaners had to be so good at laning because of this for a long time.

01:54:44.340 --> 01:54:48.220
Side laners didn't give a shit about any of this, but then you had players like Amar come into the

01:54:49.180 --> 01:54:53.980
Pro scene where they cared about every single CS. They would make you work for every single CS.

01:54:53.980 --> 01:54:57.180
They would hit you if you walked up to CS or they would draw aggro.

01:54:57.180 --> 01:55:01.180
And now everyone is doing this also in the sidelines, but midlaners have known this shit for years

01:55:01.180 --> 01:55:03.180
Yeah, it's it's classic midlane

01:55:03.580 --> 01:55:10.040
There's another example I can bring up. It's the Tyloon versus Dark Mago matchup when the Tyloon played Viper Dark Mago played Pangol

01:55:10.060 --> 01:55:12.060
he had a bad block and

01:55:12.500 --> 01:55:17.020
Waving it up on Tyloon's hill 40 seconds later Dark Mago did first blood. Yeah

01:55:17.020 --> 01:55:18.340
This is what happens when he missed out the block

01:55:18.340 --> 01:55:21.580
He could have had a good block and maybe had a great lane, you know

01:55:21.820 --> 01:55:25.460
Got the first picks coming in Skeeter yet to lose

01:55:25.460 --> 01:55:33.800
with tiny yes there is a lifestyle at all also true we haven't seen the lifestyle

01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:40.100
of man it's a CIS special accepts care I think he's like the only even though he

01:55:40.100 --> 01:55:44.300
was concerned maybe still is I'm not sure the best life still at some point

01:55:44.300 --> 01:55:49.040
he was the guy who defined the meta when they came to radiance I said but

01:55:49.040 --> 01:55:54.460
it's generally been like a CIS here the satanic's answer to tiny has been

01:55:54.460 --> 01:56:01.740
Pango or not Pango the the bird has another animal type hero obviously that's not available now

01:56:01.740 --> 01:56:06.140
So getting kids anymore. So maybe maybe that's where he does go to the live stealer because I agree

01:56:06.140 --> 01:56:11.560
It's like the one thing that looks like it's been able to deal with tiny as for the Phoenix versus tiny

01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:13.560
this is an interesting matchup because

01:56:14.560 --> 01:56:19.700
Tiny can't struggle at killing the ice suffers against Phoenix in all aspects

01:56:19.700 --> 01:56:27.100
We've seen where Skeeter actually played against it yesterday against Spirit, and they would just disengage from the egg.

01:56:27.100 --> 01:56:32.200
There was like three fights in a row where he ran in and couldn't kill the egg, and it was devastating.

01:56:32.200 --> 01:56:34.100
And then at a certain point they just started disengaging.

01:56:34.100 --> 01:56:39.700
So maybe Falcons picked something to do that, to enable that.

01:56:40.200 --> 01:56:42.700
He got solo killed by the way in one fight.

01:56:42.700 --> 01:56:45.600
I think that's when Skeeter was like,

01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:48.400
Okay guys, if you zig, I'm getting out.

01:56:48.400 --> 01:56:49.440
Yeah. I'm not stinking.

01:56:50.320 --> 01:56:53.360
It's not actually like turning the game, which is kind of funny.

01:56:54.320 --> 01:56:55.520
Out is banned, out.

01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:57.360
Still banning the out.

01:56:57.760 --> 01:56:58.480
That's cool.

01:56:58.480 --> 01:57:00.160
It's crazy that a win passed first phase.

01:57:02.720 --> 01:57:04.640
Especially since like...

01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:07.760
Oh, it's 7, it's 7, it was first phase ban.

01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:09.440
Oh yeah, never mind, I was reading the wrong thing.

01:57:09.440 --> 01:57:10.960
Yeah, so was I, that might be.

01:57:10.960 --> 01:57:11.680
Yeah, otherwise...

01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:13.760
Loundry though, Loundry still ignored completely.

01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:14.260
Yep.

01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:18.940
And how many games of laundry in this tournament?

01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:23.320
Why do you think he doesn't want to play it anymore? You know in the first place I

01:57:24.240 --> 01:57:27.500
Like he looked good on it, but it's just not a skitter classic hero

01:57:27.500 --> 01:57:30.280
And I think if he can find an excuse to move away from that meta

01:57:31.080 --> 01:57:33.080
He'll he'll do it

01:57:33.360 --> 01:57:38.720
We have the classic Queen versus tiny bad matchup and in the stats

01:57:39.360 --> 01:57:43.600
Statistically, I do believe yesterday Queen won against the tiny

01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:50.840
I'm not wrong. Again, Queen looked differently in group stage compared to playoffs, so people

01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:55.760
kind of figured something about the hero. I still do not agree with no one's build, but

01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:59.760
you know, that's why I'm here on the panel and he's playing Dota right now.

01:57:59.760 --> 01:58:00.760
True.

01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:06.080
No, I mean, I think you're making a good observation. We, in the sense that I definitely think

01:58:06.080 --> 01:58:12.360
this has not been the usual no one at this event. I mean, usually he is not

01:58:12.360 --> 01:58:17.680
just steady I mean reliable you know like that super reliable like his worst

01:58:17.680 --> 01:58:23.840
has always been like average mid laners decent yes so seeing him struggle

01:58:23.840 --> 01:58:27.320
especially the last game but also I love you say what you say like messing up a

01:58:27.320 --> 01:58:30.440
block on the first wave things that this yeah but doesn't that's not what he

01:58:30.440 --> 01:58:35.760
does his fundamentals are very very good yeah like he's the ultimate test

01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:40.960
for mid laners usually and okay so they're gonna go with the Void spirit

01:58:40.960 --> 01:58:44.200
versus queen matchup I think we saw in the South American reject series this

01:58:44.680 --> 01:58:50.960
Going both ways. Yes. Yeah, you know, we're talking about depending on the block depending on the first couple of waves

01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:55.800
I can quickly mention that if you if you'd like sure so the first time it went bad for Queen

01:58:55.920 --> 01:59:02.840
She went 044 the second time it was good for Queen. She went to 0 to so basically the

01:59:03.200 --> 01:59:07.840
Yeah, the change was shuttle strike versus no shuttle strike shadow strike obviously wins

01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:10.960
classic millionaire he can doge one but he can't doge the other

01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:16.080
I'll also add like I've seen Amar play Void in the off-lane

01:59:16.080 --> 01:59:20.480
he did that's true we have to consider that as a as a potential option

01:59:20.480 --> 01:59:24.400
you know we were considering Amar's hero up until

01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:28.320
pretty much the end of the the draft and we're like oh shit there's a lot of

01:59:28.320 --> 01:59:31.680
stuff banned out for Amar so it is nice to have something that he could

01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:35.120
be flexed to they do not have the last picks so I don't think there's

01:59:35.120 --> 01:59:38.560
much value into it, flexing the void, the great.

01:59:38.560 --> 01:59:39.560
Oh yeah!

01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:40.560
You got it!

01:59:40.560 --> 01:59:41.560
Finally!

01:59:41.560 --> 01:59:44.560
On emo day of all days.

01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:45.560
Okay.

01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:46.560
Is Largo Banto?

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Okay, first of all, does Amar play Largo?

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No, oh god, he fucking doesn't.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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Because Largo into Necro?

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Last PGL, I think he called it a bullshit hero.

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We saw the Largo test on Amar and I think in the interview he was like, I'm

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never playing this year again he cannot do it. It's such a good Largo game right now. There's so much to

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musk out. There's so much to musk out. They spell the Jingles, they spell the Queen Shadows Strike,

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Phoenix Spirits, Necro. Basically Necro when he gets to pop off in a game he gets to get item

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timings. The enemy team what they do they just like okay Necro's out of control wait for a nullifier

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somebody has to buy this item. Having a Largo on your team though you don't need this item

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anymore. So Nekrol is just killable throughout the entire stage of the game.

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Yep. And this is exactly where Largo is at now. Obviously, previous patch just broken.

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You go away, you farm your aggs, you're unkillable, your team's unkillable. That was what was happening.

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Now you have to wait for the Largo game to present itself. So I like he's in a niche,

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but Amar picking it. Yeah, I don't see it happening. I would have picked it now,

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most likely. And I'm pretty sure Paris is not even gonna ban it because they know. On the

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On the other hand, Necrophos matched up against Tiny Void Spirit, already looking like a great

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Necrogame.

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And he again suffers so much against this percentage-based damage.

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Like we talked with the Phoenix Ray, now they have Necrophos.

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Life Stealer as well.

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Life Stealer as well, yeah.

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Yeah, I like it a lot.

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It's a classic Falcons response, by the way, to respond to the, you know, cheese pick

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on the enemy side by using Snaking Zero.

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A lot of the times you see these heroes where it should be countered and a lot of the times

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It's the cores that will counter them because you're countering a core

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So it has a lot of value there both Falcons the course play the same shit every single game, right?

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So you're not gonna see a weird flex coming out like tiny will probably still be Skeeter

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He'll just play it so they answer it with silencer obviously really good against Necro in general in lane

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You press arcane curse Necro likes to press a lot of spells. You're gonna do a lot of damage there

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silencing him he feels really bad about that silencing queen of pain she doesn't

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like that silencer is a classic counter to Phoenix as well you can just press E on

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him as he's when he dives and he comes back he just comes back right into you

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know wherever he was he's basically stunning himself I don't think the

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answers to the crew next necessarily the science are big they do still have

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last pick on Paris so they can decide if they want this carry or offline

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right because they can put my they're also bombing carry so what they think

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The monkey is a great meeple band by the way because this would have been the freest

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yeah

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Yeah, I like I like the idea of think parents getting the better Falcons right on the draft

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It does feel like that

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Falcons will see if I'm in the lab in my class isn't it but Falcons is getting their heroes though

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Falcons is creating like a stable lineup

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But pay you on the other hand they kind of like

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they're picking this cheese here like Necro, they have the strong Queen of Pain,

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the always reliable Phoenix with you the teamfights, they're kind of like one

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outplayed the opponents but if they do have a showing like that we saw last game

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it's gonna be pretty hard. Falkens are playing quite good right now.

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Does Amar just go back for the doom? I don't see why not.

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Radiance Doom? Yeah I mean it's really good against Necro.

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It's very good. I'm surprised I didn't ban it.

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Yeah, that is quite surprising.

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They decided to ban Viper and Underlord instead of Doom.

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Underlord, I feel like suffers against Necrol.

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Is that?

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That does not make sense for me, but it does make sense against the Queen.

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Even souls, like whatever.

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And we see Doom.

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We just saw Doom do very well against Monkey.

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I feel like, I mean, the clip I showed this morning was Doom against Monkey.

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It was against you, Koro.

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Baiting for another carry. There it is.

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And there you go.

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That's what he wanted. That's why they let the Doom. They're basically saying triple S,

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you my brother, you're sacrificed. I'm going to give satanic londuids,

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give him good matchup. Doom doesn't, he doesn't care about Doom at all on londuid.

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So good draft. It does mainly get the mind class monkey. Yes, we do. I will be watching

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this one intently. And the no one queen of pain, which is again, I've talked about it last

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game this matchup of monkey queen is so good together to the game this is a lot

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of potential for like this queen to just pop off in this game I really love the

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draft from Paravision I think this was super creative this is the classic they

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present so many problems to solve they do a nine class flex and then they get

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some satanic last pick like it's amazing for the game this is in their

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wheelhouse I feel like if Falcons wins this it's because they are simply the

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better team today and there's some stuff going on with ParaVision like they're

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just not playing at their best because I agree as well like no one Queen of Pain

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is something else man like this guy's really good at Queen of Pain this is his

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iconic hero. I feel like again Perry they have better lanes and in theory they

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have better late game. I feel like this should be an easy one for Perry but

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But again, it really depends. Falcons might just play better. And like you said Jenkins,

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it really, it's up to Falcons. They're going to bring up a good showing. Yeah, they have

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a decent chance, but I'd favorite parry.

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There's always a world where Monkey King is totally useless. That's very possible.

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It's very rare with nine class. But there can be some damage lacking if the lanes

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don't go well. But I agree with what you're saying that like they also have

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really good lanes. So I don't think that's going to be a problem for them in this game.

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No, misplay after misplay after misplay, I should be fine. This is the type of mind class game I

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like to see. Like when he picked the ringleader in the last one, I was, ringmaster, sorry, it was

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a bit sad. I want to see him sniping careers when monkey can, you know what I mean? It's so much

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harder Dota to play, like genuinely it puts such a weight on your shoulders of like you have

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to do really high skill, cool shit, otherwise we are going to get devastated and then you're

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you're gonna be useless but somehow he manages to do it and it's such a hard

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play style to replicate like basically no other four positions can do it. This could be a

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elimination from Perry too I forgot to mention that. Yeah they could just lose if

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they lose their health. And they go with it they go with a crazy draft. I don't

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want to see the planning out I want to see more meepo. Come on. How many meepo players left?

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He's the last one. He's the last one. And he loves his hero too so please guys last

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I'm a me. Good game. He's a captain's all right guys

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We're about to show you footage from a petting zoo because there's two goats on the screen

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Thank you so much. Absolutely Richard Lewis the biggest goat in e-sports

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We've got big P here today. Good to see you sir an absolute pleasure

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I have to say a master class in drafting at least I think you guys put out some iconic heroes

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You got the no one on the co-op you got the nine class on the monkey

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Let's talk a little bit about the Necro, though.

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That was really cool.

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Was that to just mess them up a little bit?

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Kind of freak them out with this weird kind of pick

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that we haven't seen very much to get them off their game?

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No, it's just a good hero against Tiny.

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That's it?

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That's just the answer.

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No mind games?

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You're lying to me.

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I know you are.

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You're a mind game king.

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I mean, you need to amplify nine classes monkey king.

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So it's a hero to do that.

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All right, fair enough.

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Let's talk a little bit about the Doom Last Pick.

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Now the panel was talking that it was a little mysterious that you let him get through until you finally got that last pick in the loan druid

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Are you still happy with that result? Are you still okay with them getting that do?

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Yeah, it was basically like if they did ban laundry down was gonna ban doom. So it's like it's it's a trade they

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Took so let's see what happens to be fair. Okay fair enough

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This seems like a very easy interview so far. So let me throw you a few curveballs here

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If one of your teammates came down with the super Rony and you had to jump in which one would you replace in this

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Specific game with everything on the line and what hero would you have played?

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Super Rony the super Rony. It's forbidden. It's not coming out till next year. What is that?

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This don't worry about it puppy. All right, the last one forget it

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That's good. Now you're off your game much like in your draft

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That's what you wanted to do anyway, right?

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That is kind of true.

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Turnball.

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All right.

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Satanic, we have not seen him on the lone druid yet.

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Everyone else is playing this.

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Tell me about this.

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Is this good?

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Is he good on this hero?

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Are we expecting a win in going to game three?

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I'm expecting this one to be a win.

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And if you don't, will you get the Super Rony?

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I don't know what that means.

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Okay.

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Great.

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Let's get into the game.

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My friends, thank you so much for coming.

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And we'll see you guys soon.

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Love me some Super Rony.

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Thanks so much for the interview slacks.

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Puppy, Falcons vs. ParaVision game number two.

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And yes, very interesting picks. We finally get to cast Necker.

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We've been begging for this hero to come out.

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And hopefully for ParaVision's sake, they're going to be able to perform well on us

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so we can see some more in this tournament.

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Yep.

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There's a couple of things to unpack here, I think.

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First of all, like they talked about in the interview and on the panel,

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Satanic is playing Lowndryd for the first time.

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Let's see if he's good at it.

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At the very least, his Dota Plus level would suggest he has played it before.

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I mean, he plays Meepo, so I think he's fine.

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Yeah, it's not...

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The hard thing about Laundry, I wouldn't say is necessarily the micro part.

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It's knowing your limits in lane.

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I think it's very...

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It can be very exploitable if you overplay sometimes.

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You're very susceptible to rotations.

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You're very frail, but you're also very strong at the same time.

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So you want to kind of...

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Play the balance correctly.

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That's the first thing.

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The second thing is...

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They gave away the Doom, which I thought was the most obvious ban.

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And you could hear in the interview, they're going to get the first player on Amar with the Phoenix. Very nice start.

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They were willingly giving away Doom. I was like, this is the most obvious ban.

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So, they did this to get the loan to a trade, and so far so good. They're beating him in lane.

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So, I found that interesting. First of all, the fact that he admitted that being pretty transparent.

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So yeah, the lane is good. The Doom against every other hero feels incredible still. Does it not?

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I still think it's a good Doom game. But, as you know, with Falcons,

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We talked about that you said we were discussing in the last game how to beat this team

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I think if you can you know get off to a hot start in the lanes

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Even if some of their hero matchups are good if they need if they start playing so

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Dead to rise to Skeeter will survive nine class. We'll talk about him in just a moment

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Go ahead and continue thoughts and yeah

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It's just if even if dooms game is good and he has good matchups if this hero falls behind in a big way in lane

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It can be the very slow recovery. So I think that's the overall game plan yet

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But, as a final note, aside from laning, Parvishan's lineup just has no way of starting fights.

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Like, that's my biggest concern here. They have no catch. They have a Monkey King stun,

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and then they have, we're gonna run in a ball at towers or objectives and make you fight us.

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But what if Falcons don't? What if they just play their way of farming?

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I think 9-Class has a lot of responsibility in this game to call smokes, make some sort of moves that connect.

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Or, you're just planning to snub all the game, you're just the great game-plans, we're going to win the lanes,

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then we're going to play off the bear, take towers, take rows, take tormentor, end.

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I think Falcons will be very happy to see that they don't have to worry all that much about getting banged.

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Yep, that's true, that's kind of one of the issues with having a Necro as the off-lane to begin with.

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Look at the traditional initiator, Skeeter jumped on by nine-class, under the tier one, death boss is enough.

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So SSS gets a little bit of revenge, just snaking it, some trouble now completely out of mana as 9 classes is going to right click and casually

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and the kill comes out to SSS.

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It's going to be heal to full from this.

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That is pretty dirty, good old Heartstopper.

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Two kills with Sadist, you're back up to max immediately and he's going to go, what seems to be Vessel, I would think.

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Boots, urn, pretty standard offlane build on Necro, I would say in the current state of Dota this might be the single best hero to buy Consecrated Raps on

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After the nerfs

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He massively needs HP magic resistance is amazing because you can block physical with ghost shroud

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Everything consecrated wraps gives you is incredible on this heroes. I would like to see SSS go

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vessel into wraps and then

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Potentially upgrade his boots beforehand if he wants to

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Titanic's gonna get ganked this thing comes out of the north gate and Amar will claim him. This is

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is, this is what can happen to a lot, right?

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If you get ganked you're just so weak.

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There's no counter play, no mobility, bad stats.

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A nice move from Falcons,

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we'll put them a bit more on the board here,

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but still a great start for the par vision side.

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Should be happy about it.

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And finally in midway, I haven't talked about this at all.

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It's Malorin on Void Spirit against no one's

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Queen of Pain.

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Now this is a better lane matchup for Queen of Pain easily than Beastmaster, so no one is

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currently winning by a little bit.

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Now we'll see how much impact Malorin can have on this hero.

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Definitely be a hero that just disappears, it feels like.

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But now that you have a shard that allows you to farm a little bit better, has I think

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stabilized the hero a bit more than what I'm used to seeing.

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I think it's alright.

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I also think it's a pretty good game for the hero.

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Decent against QWOP, decent against MECRO.

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Got a power rune about to spawn here, Crit.

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Some harassment by Ducalis as the rune is going to be bot.

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No one claims to kill very easily.

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And we'll be in Invis for Mal'Reen.

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Cool play there to Syntha Bear.

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From Satanic, the whole way there to help with it.

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But now he's just going to get gone on.

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He has to be able to fight back here.

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wasn't expecting the sounds around the flank. And again,

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the balance strike is there to slow them down though.

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Amar is going to continue to chase with that Scorser back to

02:13:53.740 --> 02:13:58.540
back. That's for the lone druid. Yeah. Nine class. Take heavy

02:13:58.540 --> 02:14:01.260
harassment. If not, just go down outright and be that as a

02:14:01.260 --> 02:14:03.980
case of double kill for the doom and do call it. I mean, this

02:14:03.980 --> 02:14:07.420
might be next on the list. The dive comes out and Amar

02:14:07.420 --> 02:14:13.500
gets a third. I have no words. This cannot happen. It's

02:14:13.500 --> 02:14:17.500
is just not allowed that Doom gets a triple kill in this lane matchup.

02:14:17.500 --> 02:14:20.500
Now, Amar is going to hit six.

02:14:20.500 --> 02:14:23.500
Loundrait's just cracked five. He's a full level ahead.

02:14:23.500 --> 02:14:25.500
He can even solo kill him now.

02:14:25.500 --> 02:14:29.500
Nupi is sharpening that machete as we speak.

02:14:29.500 --> 02:14:31.500
I'm not going to be happy with that exchange at all.

02:14:31.500 --> 02:14:34.500
The thing is, ultimately, no matter...

02:14:34.500 --> 02:14:36.500
We can talk about the theory of the heroes

02:14:36.500 --> 02:14:39.500
and how the lineups interact and what's going to happen in lanes and whatnot,

02:14:39.500 --> 02:14:42.500
but the comfort factor just cannot be overlooked.

02:14:42.500 --> 02:14:46.500
But this is not one of Satanic's best heroes, no way how you look at it, like...

02:14:46.500 --> 02:14:50.500
There's a reason he hasn't played it yet in this tournament, where it's been top tier meta,

02:14:50.500 --> 02:14:54.500
and Yosu's on the last game, Parvishion brought out four heroes they haven't played yet.

02:14:54.500 --> 02:15:01.500
So they're running a lot of new stuff that isn't exactly comfort, and I'm not saying like this is just mechanically a big misplay, but...

02:15:01.500 --> 02:15:07.500
Once again, about knowing the limits of how far you can really go...

02:15:07.500 --> 02:15:13.260
Because these deaths are very costly. He is almost bottom-net worth of the course again just like last game

02:15:13.260 --> 02:15:17.580
It's so unfamiliar to see him there such a domino effect here. Yep

02:15:18.700 --> 02:15:22.940
See the pubs a lot not in pro games all too often in the mar

02:15:23.460 --> 02:15:27.740
Okay, if you're gonna give me a triple coach. Oh, let's take it. I'll take a free game on doom

02:15:27.740 --> 02:15:31.540
Which is good against four out of five heroes. Why not pressure on to Skeeter

02:15:31.540 --> 02:15:35.320
as I have a lance to get some space

02:15:35.320 --> 02:15:36.640
should be right. So here here is that

02:15:36.640 --> 02:15:38.260
problem right like okay let's say the

02:15:38.260 --> 02:15:39.760
lanes do not go according to plan for

02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:45.680
partition. What's the move? I'm assuming

02:15:45.680 --> 02:15:47.360
you're playing off of QWAP making some

02:15:47.360 --> 02:15:49.000
high burst rotation together with

02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:50.460
Necro and then you can scythe for a

02:15:50.460 --> 02:15:52.240
kill at least that's a combination that's

02:15:52.240 --> 02:15:56.680
good but times of pressure see skater

02:15:56.680 --> 02:15:58.160
even though there's two heroes showing

02:15:58.160 --> 02:15:59.440
you he can still stay at the tower.

02:15:59.440 --> 02:16:04.520
especially with a TP coming in gets the avalanche on to the Necro looking for the

02:16:04.520 --> 02:16:09.040
doom target he gets it and that is a dead Necro no healing for you too easy

02:16:09.040 --> 02:16:13.160
pretty hard counter to the hero I would say they let it through though yeah

02:16:13.160 --> 02:16:16.720
for the lone druid to have a good lane which has not happened so now they're

02:16:16.720 --> 02:16:20.560
probably regretting that decision I just from my perspective when you know the

02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:23.320
players and you know the teams and you know what Amar has played in this

02:16:23.320 --> 02:16:26.080
tournament how good he is a doom how good it is against everything else I

02:16:26.080 --> 02:16:29.320
just don't think the risk reward is good enough of putting satanic on an

02:16:29.320 --> 02:16:36.960
an unplayed hero to try to deal with it. Now obviously, oh hang on, Amar will get jumped

02:16:36.960 --> 02:16:43.120
here. Yes he will. He is triple team now. Plus Rufo if he counts the bear, global silence

02:16:43.120 --> 02:16:46.920
Amar gets rooted though and he's going to tick out and Snake King likely will do the

02:16:46.920 --> 02:16:51.200
same. Forcing out the egg so he can't get that kill and that ends up being a double

02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:56.120
for paravision for Satanic to get back into respectable amounts of farm. That was

02:16:56.120 --> 02:16:59.400
perfect level of timing for Ducales as well from the first kill he gets the egg

02:16:59.400 --> 02:17:04.280
otherwise Sonser would have killed him for sure so a nice move par vision get

02:17:04.280 --> 02:17:10.760
something going their way there courtesy of monkey king who all thoughts for it

02:17:10.760 --> 02:17:18.080
now is the duo supports for paravision hounding the rubik as TP coming in nice

02:17:18.080 --> 02:17:22.680
telekinesis though fire spirits can be dodged and there's malray to try to

02:17:22.680 --> 02:17:27.980
Equalize this a bit it'll be a trade for supports if not more as no one shows up as well against snaking

02:17:27.980 --> 02:17:34.480
It's mid lane versus supports on two sides here as attempted neutral creep tonight is successful for nine class

02:17:35.080 --> 02:17:40.680
Rain drop. Oh, it doesn't proc. Okay. It doesn't do enough damage. I see the level two tick

02:17:44.720 --> 02:17:49.600
Skeeter better be careful here spare vessel applied to him Necro has the side he's dead besides here

02:17:49.600 --> 02:17:51.960
He just needs to press needs the vision fade time

02:17:52.680 --> 02:17:57.440
Another death pause, he can follow that anywhere and that is a big kill for SSS now

02:17:58.360 --> 02:18:02.360
This is why they picked it. This matchup is very very good

02:18:03.640 --> 02:18:05.760
Parvish and do stabilize again here

02:18:07.440 --> 02:18:11.200
Almost got a shield on his hand. A okay. By the way in that previous fight

02:18:11.200 --> 02:18:14.700
I think crit just played it almost borderline perfectly. It's like

02:18:15.520 --> 02:18:19.920
His movement he was dodging fire spirits. He got the lift midair on the monkey king

02:18:19.920 --> 02:18:25.520
He got off absolutely everything he had to give Falcons a good trade there.

02:18:25.520 --> 02:18:28.320
He is playing very well today on this Rubik.

02:18:28.320 --> 02:18:32.820
Clearly warmed up for when it matters most.

02:18:32.820 --> 02:18:37.620
Still 1k lead all in all for Parry.

02:18:37.620 --> 02:18:40.820
They've taken the first tower of the game down bottom unsurprisingly in the Necrolane.

02:18:40.820 --> 02:18:44.720
Now, question is if you can keep this pressure up on the Tiny.

02:18:44.720 --> 02:18:45.720
They're going to try to.

02:18:45.720 --> 02:18:48.920
This time they won't have scythe though and there is backup inbound.

02:18:48.920 --> 02:18:54.380
There is, 9th class gonna go on top of Skeeter, Malrin takes out a courier first, the global

02:18:54.380 --> 02:18:58.100
science comes out so Skeeter should be fine now, the astral step, the egg place as well,

02:18:58.100 --> 02:18:59.100
9th class.

02:18:59.100 --> 02:19:04.420
In the midst of this turns into the soldier, focusing on the egg, they do not get him actually,

02:19:04.420 --> 02:19:10.020
who follows, pops at the last millisecond and this is disaster for Falcons, they lose

02:19:10.020 --> 02:19:14.500
three and Amar now being chased will have to doom in retreat, definitely not getting

02:19:14.500 --> 02:19:15.500
that kill.

02:19:15.500 --> 02:19:18.560
Amar getting hounded now by the monkey king. It is a support though.

02:19:18.560 --> 02:19:21.060
Nine class maybe biting off a little bit too much.

02:19:21.060 --> 02:19:23.400
Scorch's Earth might be able to finish the jump of the Sunray.

02:19:23.400 --> 02:19:25.020
Is there not enough to heal him out?

02:19:25.020 --> 02:19:27.740
But Amar gets baited into getting that kill.

02:19:27.740 --> 02:19:30.340
So that means no one picks up yet another.

02:19:30.900 --> 02:19:31.400
Damn.

02:19:31.400 --> 02:19:32.500
If four for one...

02:19:32.900 --> 02:19:36.800
That's supernova going off. Means everything for Parri.

02:19:36.800 --> 02:19:39.600
Not for sure. They had killed the egg. That was as close as it gets.

02:19:39.600 --> 02:19:42.000
Yeah. If Doom had a drum, they would have killed it.

02:19:42.000 --> 02:19:44.200
But Amar's going Radiance. So...

02:19:45.500 --> 02:19:52.580
Unfortunately, a crucial moment where that one item that dooms by a lot of the time, but not a mar would have helped a lot

02:19:53.380 --> 02:19:55.740
This is the worst case scenario for Falcons, right? Is you

02:19:56.260 --> 02:20:00.420
You're trying to kill the egg and you just barely don't it's infinitely worse than just running away

02:20:02.300 --> 02:20:10.460
They get the Malrin site onto Malrin now so para vision just continuing the pressure here five K lead

02:20:10.460 --> 02:20:15.220
looking good and this is buying space for satanic I was getting worried for them

02:20:15.220 --> 02:20:19.240
I have to say a few minutes ago, but they picked it up in a big way now

02:20:19.240 --> 02:20:22.180
They're accelerating the game super hard and this is what I was saying

02:20:22.180 --> 02:20:26.460
Their lineup doesn't really have catch so if you want to win you need to just force the enemy to fight you and just bring

02:20:26.460 --> 02:20:30.260
Numbers and be super strong playing around the right heroes, and that's exactly what they're doing

02:20:30.900 --> 02:20:32.900
so

02:20:33.720 --> 02:20:39.660
Feels like a game where so far satanic hasn't really had to do all that much and that's good news because you had a bad start

02:20:39.660 --> 02:20:43.100
Yeah, you're gonna see the replay here. Look at the egg. So if they have a drum here

02:20:43.860 --> 02:20:48.500
They just have to really bad heroes for destroying it. Oh my god. I'll ring those men's hackin

02:20:48.580 --> 02:20:50.580
Projectile on the way. Yeah

02:20:51.620 --> 02:20:58.460
Yeah, so Falcons a little bit of bad luck there paravision taking full advantage and now they have a good grasp on this game

02:21:00.660 --> 02:21:07.100
Nine class scouting out some more supports in the triangle here, but he is spotted out in turn as well fire spirits from crit

02:21:07.100 --> 02:21:12.600
My class can't get off the blue con, so something for Falcons is a little bit of

02:21:12.600 --> 02:21:16.260
brain drain for snaking now.

02:21:18.180 --> 02:21:23.560
Now we've seen other games from Falcons where they played this Amar Doom

02:21:23.560 --> 02:21:27.840
going Radiance, the other two games that is, and I liked it in both games

02:21:27.840 --> 02:21:32.840
because of the overall flow of the game. Hang on, wait with that.

02:21:32.840 --> 02:21:35.580
That's a lot of effort to try to kill a Phoenix. You might be able to get the egg

02:21:35.580 --> 02:21:38.920
It's going to be close, doesn't even need it.

02:21:38.920 --> 02:21:46.420
So global silence down now, and Falcon's just getting worked at every single angle it looks

02:21:46.420 --> 02:21:47.420
like.

02:21:47.420 --> 02:21:48.420
This is very awkward.

02:21:48.420 --> 02:21:49.420
This is very awkward.

02:21:49.420 --> 02:21:54.780
That's the Astral, but he just goes into the site as SSS with his third of the game.

02:21:54.780 --> 02:21:57.380
He has a Lotus now.

02:21:57.380 --> 02:22:00.980
So he didn't go for the Rapsuit Lotus, which is obviously amazing against Sallancer.

02:22:00.980 --> 02:22:04.060
I think that's just specifically targeted itemization here.

02:22:04.060 --> 02:22:10.060
also good against Doom. Yeah, they can really really play this timing super

02:22:10.060 --> 02:22:15.580
aggressively and that's that's Falcon's problem and games that they lose when

02:22:15.580 --> 02:22:19.660
they're off to a bad start like this and they start getting cornered they don't

02:22:19.660 --> 02:22:22.860
get to play their greedy style that's why I would have liked to see as Chris

02:22:22.860 --> 02:22:25.020
gonna die here I would have liked to see a different feel from a mar this

02:22:25.020 --> 02:22:29.220
game I think this is just too greedy the other doom games that he bought it

02:22:29.220 --> 02:22:31.220
I liked it because of the pace and the matchup.

02:22:31.220 --> 02:22:33.220
To be fair, he got a triple kill, son.

02:22:33.220 --> 02:22:39.220
Right. And I get it because you're in the mindset of, oh, wow, I'm getting a freebie, but

02:22:39.220 --> 02:22:44.220
the risk reward in this game compared to the other games he's had, it's just very, very costly when things go wrong.

02:22:44.220 --> 02:22:48.220
And it's more likely because you look at the enemy lineup and what they're trying to do.

02:22:48.220 --> 02:22:54.220
Maybe if you itemized a little bit heavier into the early fights and being stronger right now,

02:22:54.220 --> 02:22:58.220
it could have paid off. But we'll see.

02:22:58.220 --> 02:23:03.620
He is also this is the other thing he's building to scale and to try to kind of carry the game, but

02:23:05.180 --> 02:23:09.900
His hero is not as invulnerable as has been in other games because he can get scythe right

02:23:09.900 --> 02:23:13.100
That's always going to be a threat if you don't doom the Necro

02:23:13.740 --> 02:23:17.660
Your hero also for the entirety of the game is just bad against loan drew it because

02:23:18.300 --> 02:23:22.980
When loan drew it gets acts. He's never gonna be there. It's just the bear and you can't doom the bear

02:23:22.980 --> 02:23:27.580
Yes, you can infernal blade it's good damage, but it's still gonna overwhelm you so

02:23:29.160 --> 02:23:33.860
It's still very respectable radiance timing to be honest. I mean he's six and three so

02:23:34.300 --> 02:23:37.840
Checks out that he will have this at 16. We'll see if it pays off

02:23:38.660 --> 02:23:40.660
high-risk high reward

02:23:40.940 --> 02:23:42.700
That's a mark

02:23:42.700 --> 02:23:44.700
Crit dead. Yeah

02:23:45.060 --> 02:23:48.980
Don't know Scythe though. They're gonna save it for bigger targets. Yeah, I was gonna say

02:23:48.980 --> 02:23:51.420
I feel like this scaling is not even that good

02:23:52.420 --> 02:23:57.660
It used to be a lot better initially the passives on this or I'm not gonna call them irrelevant

02:23:57.660 --> 02:23:59.660
but they really don't matter that much.

02:23:59.660 --> 02:24:00.740
Yeah.

02:24:00.740 --> 02:24:02.060
Unlike something like Finger of Death,

02:24:02.060 --> 02:24:03.300
where there's actually a lot of merits

02:24:03.300 --> 02:24:04.980
to fingering kills that are guaranteed

02:24:04.980 --> 02:24:06.460
just to get stronger for later,

02:24:06.460 --> 02:24:07.660
I feel like these charges on sides

02:24:07.660 --> 02:24:09.900
are just kind of whatever.

02:24:09.900 --> 02:24:11.460
Agreed.

02:24:11.460 --> 02:24:12.460
Which is a little sad.

02:24:15.300 --> 02:24:16.140
Yeah.

02:24:16.140 --> 02:24:17.660
Everybody loves these stacking stats.

02:24:17.660 --> 02:24:18.500
Yeah.

02:24:18.500 --> 02:24:19.940
We've got fish for Tidehunter now.

02:24:21.620 --> 02:24:23.700
Maybe it could make something similar for Nekra.

02:24:23.700 --> 02:24:24.980
Something drops on the ground.

02:24:24.980 --> 02:24:26.340
What would it be though?

02:24:26.340 --> 02:24:27.460
Rotten fish.

02:24:27.660 --> 02:24:32.660
No, putrid. I think he uses that word, the voice lines, right?

02:24:32.660 --> 02:24:35.660
A little, uh...

02:24:35.660 --> 02:24:40.660
I don't know. Not sure what Necro would eat.

02:24:40.660 --> 02:24:43.660
Probably Wendy's.

02:24:43.660 --> 02:24:45.660
What?

02:24:45.660 --> 02:24:47.660
That's not the worst.

02:24:47.660 --> 02:24:49.660
The worst is Burger King.

02:24:49.660 --> 02:24:51.660
I can't really know.

02:24:51.660 --> 02:24:53.660
Really bad.

02:24:53.660 --> 02:24:59.620
It's fine, we give these opinions and then people say no way, it depends on location.

02:24:59.620 --> 02:25:03.220
US, I'm telling you Burger King is the worst, it's objective truth here.

02:25:03.220 --> 02:25:07.380
Yeah, this is an 80% win rate for Paravision, I see that.

02:25:07.380 --> 02:25:14.340
Yeah, I could see it, but it's not, for sure it's a very good game state for their lineup,

02:25:14.340 --> 02:25:16.100
but they still need to convert it.

02:25:16.100 --> 02:25:21.680
The thing that makes this in my eyes still a somewhat challenging game to win is forcing

02:25:21.680 --> 02:25:25.040
the right types of fights consistently and not slipping up a single time. This won't be

02:25:25.040 --> 02:25:31.960
another kill on to Crit who's now 0 and 6. Very much being pressured in this game. Trying

02:25:31.960 --> 02:25:35.920
to deal with... he's effectively on trash duty. Somebody has to push out bottom.

02:25:35.920 --> 02:25:38.120
Somebody has to die.

02:25:38.120 --> 02:25:42.080
And they're putting a low value hero down here who can do it. Sonser is too bad at

02:25:42.080 --> 02:25:45.680
wave clear. So they're going to let Rubik go and if he gets ganked for the sixth

02:25:45.680 --> 02:25:50.480
time so be it. Because this tower needs to stand. Because in that... if he keeps

02:25:50.480 --> 02:25:54.200
being a lightning rod the heroes that need to scale are actually finding the

02:25:54.200 --> 02:25:59.880
farm so this is very much fine has his chart so he can start farming a bit

02:25:59.880 --> 02:26:05.560
yep net girl also with death seeker as we already saw now now within the game

02:26:05.560 --> 02:26:09.520
on SSS as well yeah the problem with this vessel on Malrin's that the one

02:26:09.520 --> 02:26:15.400
eighth a remnant into the doom do even need it they will use it Lotus does

02:26:15.400 --> 02:26:19.360
It was reflective, but I think they're gonna get the Phoenix anyway.

02:26:19.360 --> 02:26:23.280
So a nice double kill here for Falcons.

02:26:23.280 --> 02:26:25.380
That's the thing, they can make these moves.

02:26:25.380 --> 02:26:28.160
They have pairings, they have lockdown, they have global.

02:26:28.160 --> 02:26:33.420
I didn't realize no one also had the Lotus, so double Lotus for ParaVision.

02:26:33.420 --> 02:26:35.380
They need items against Global Silence and Doom.

02:26:35.380 --> 02:26:38.400
I understand completely why they're buying it, but the problem is once you get Doom,

02:26:38.400 --> 02:26:42.180
it doesn't really matter that you reflect it in that situation, you're just screwed,

02:26:42.180 --> 02:26:43.720
you can't get out and Doom will survive.

02:26:43.720 --> 02:26:49.120
Lotus and Yul's for Ducalis. Three dispell so far. That does mean you're going to make

02:26:49.120 --> 02:26:52.840
Salliser a lot worse, but at the same time he's also really forcing you to invest heavily

02:26:52.840 --> 02:26:57.320
into suboptimal items, right? It's like you don't really want to buy this, so how big

02:26:57.320 --> 02:27:02.000
is this 2k lead when the items are countering global silence? It's a good point. I'm

02:27:02.000 --> 02:27:06.880
not quite sure how meaningful this really is. It's a total no-brainer to buy it

02:27:06.880 --> 02:27:09.800
on Necro. I will say you just have to get that item this game. You're against

02:27:09.800 --> 02:27:12.700
Vessel on void spirit which you make worse against global

02:27:13.880 --> 02:27:19.420
So you have to buy it the co-op. I think there's a world where this is just not the right build

02:27:21.520 --> 02:27:27.000
BKB or something um because you're not gonna go Lotus. Are you gonna go Lotus and BKB? I

02:27:28.360 --> 02:27:30.360
Think this game's really hard to play without BKB, you know

02:27:31.200 --> 02:27:34.320
Yeah, it's true. That's mal rain able to snipe the regen

02:27:34.320 --> 02:27:39.840
Rui is getting a sonic wave for his efforts though as Rosh trying to catch up to him, shadow strike applied,

02:27:39.840 --> 02:27:45.240
boundless strike back to be there, Malrin running away, ticks out eventually to no one.

02:27:45.240 --> 02:27:48.080
I really thought the region was going to keep him alive but...

02:27:48.080 --> 02:27:48.840
Did he pop it?

02:27:48.840 --> 02:27:50.280
Yeah, immediately.

02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:55.680
Still not enough, he was even trying, he emptied his bottle too, trying to tick, heal between ticks but...

02:27:55.680 --> 02:27:58.560
Still not enough, I had him out there but...

02:27:58.560 --> 02:28:01.160
Nice kill for Parry, just barely.

02:28:01.160 --> 02:28:06.000
I mean, looking at the net worth, we're used to seeing Void Spear on the bottom of the course.

02:28:06.000 --> 02:28:07.080
Yeah, it's very bottom.

02:28:07.080 --> 02:28:09.360
It's a very big discrepancy though.

02:28:09.360 --> 02:28:11.840
Oh yeah, there's a laundry in the game.

02:28:11.840 --> 02:28:16.440
He's going to take the Tormentor,

02:28:16.440 --> 02:28:19.120
and we'll give the Shard 2 9 class.

02:28:19.120 --> 02:28:21.800
He's going to be very happy about that.

02:28:21.800 --> 02:28:24.440
Super valuable for the way he plays this support.

02:28:24.440 --> 02:28:28.880
Monkey King very much gives you additional plays

02:28:28.880 --> 02:28:31.600
in terms of movement, just being slippery and annoying.

02:28:35.160 --> 02:28:39.040
Currently for him, it's essence to steal it into the treads.

02:28:39.040 --> 02:28:42.360
Monkey King is a very cool four in terms of itemization.

02:28:42.360 --> 02:28:44.640
There's just so many build paths.

02:28:44.640 --> 02:28:47.240
A lot of the time we see Nine Clests go for like earn builds

02:28:47.240 --> 02:28:51.080
and sometimes you see orchids, sometimes you see mage flair,

02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:55.520
which I would argue could actually be pretty good this game

02:28:55.520 --> 02:28:56.960
for the Monkey King to buy.

02:28:56.960 --> 02:29:04.440
You know, mage player hit, say, the void spirit plus one more hero on the same spot.

02:29:04.440 --> 02:29:05.680
No, they get the doom off.

02:29:05.680 --> 02:29:07.000
Amar from the tree line.

02:29:07.000 --> 02:29:08.800
Load is too late.

02:29:08.800 --> 02:29:11.040
This matchup is just so awful.

02:29:11.040 --> 02:29:12.040
Balance track is there.

02:29:12.040 --> 02:29:13.540
Maybe they can turn this around onto a kill onto Amar.

02:29:13.540 --> 02:29:14.540
Obviously, the necro's already dead.

02:29:14.540 --> 02:29:18.920
Bukhungsman is coming, but there's the global silence and the initiation from Mal-Reen.

02:29:18.920 --> 02:29:23.240
They're going to find a secondary support kill potentially as Ducalus dives into the

02:29:23.240 --> 02:29:24.240
trees.

02:29:24.240 --> 02:29:25.240
Amar not done yet.

02:29:25.240 --> 02:29:31.760
that Radiance and they get the Fatebolt kill from Crit, so 3 and out for Falcon, this Skeeter,

02:29:31.760 --> 02:29:37.880
running into no one. They don't have the Doom here, so Avalanche costs the damage, and not

02:29:37.880 --> 02:29:42.840
4 dead, just walks into death, not expecting the Shadowblade.

02:29:42.840 --> 02:29:46.480
That really hurts to watch, that was effectively Paravision, just...

02:29:46.480 --> 02:29:47.480
The whole lead!

02:29:47.480 --> 02:29:51.160
I mean, it's not just, it's like, save a friend syndrome, but the friends were already

02:29:51.160 --> 02:29:55.920
dead when they got there. It was like there's no way you're saving the Necro. Then you're

02:29:55.920 --> 02:30:00.080
trying to fight into a dude who's still his DKB. I mean I'm always didn't even have to

02:30:00.080 --> 02:30:05.520
use the DKB. Probably gonna lose the fair too. And the worst death out of all of those

02:30:05.520 --> 02:30:10.960
in my eyes is just no one. Why is he there? His teammates just died. I can't believe he

02:30:10.960 --> 02:30:19.480
has 16 brain drains. How? They're doing so. He has 12 assists. He has one kill,

02:30:19.480 --> 02:30:25.200
12 assists, so 13 out of the 15 kills Snake King's been involved in, that is insane.

02:30:25.200 --> 02:30:31.040
Yeah, the sound, sir, in the right game can get very involved, and this is one of them because what's his bad match up here?

02:30:31.040 --> 02:30:33.040
It's the Monkey King, nothing else.

02:30:33.040 --> 02:30:35.040
And the Monkey King is a support.

02:30:35.040 --> 02:30:40.880
I guess Laundroid can also be a bit dicey, but let's be honest, in the games that we've watched so far, Laundroid isn't really in the game.

02:30:40.880 --> 02:30:42.380
He's just in the jungle.

02:30:42.380 --> 02:30:43.720
Yeah, the bear is the hero.

02:30:43.720 --> 02:30:46.840
The bear becomes the hero with X, which he has finally got now.

02:30:46.840 --> 02:30:51.160
So now, Loanjoy is a bad matchup for the first 20 minutes, so it's kind of whatever.

02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:59.400
Okay, even game in terms of gold, this is where Parvizion needs to be very careful

02:31:00.280 --> 02:31:02.360
not to drop the ball further than they already have.

02:31:03.240 --> 02:31:07.160
Crit, well, are you seeing this the time or two? There is a TP coming in from Skeeter,

02:31:07.160 --> 02:31:10.920
and Sutanix bearing a bit of peril, especially with his avalanche coming, not even needing it.

02:31:10.920 --> 02:31:14.920
Actually, the Sunray is actually healing up quite a bit, and our Snake King will be the first to fall.

02:31:14.920 --> 02:31:20.920
Val'Rain in the midst of all this wants to snipe the bear. He will get it. Is it going to cost him his life?

02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:28.920
Reaper Scythe comes out and ends up being enough as SSS gets the double kill. Skeeter takes a scream of pain into the base he goes.

02:31:28.920 --> 02:31:36.920
Shadow Strike. Is this enough damage? No. Should be good to go. Yeah, the raindrop definitely helping his cause there.

02:31:36.920 --> 02:31:43.920
Nice play from Parvish too. Press the issue here. Global sound, some cooldown. Amar arrives too late.

02:31:43.920 --> 02:31:49.440
so it doesn't get to use the doom that was finally something good for them once again to

02:31:50.240 --> 02:31:58.000
keep things in check on the parry side now the upcoming fight will be a lot harder i just i

02:31:58.000 --> 02:32:01.840
feel like looking at this the execution required for the dire's fights it's just very

02:32:04.640 --> 02:32:07.920
it's it's hard to play quickly linkin's now on the mar well

02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:15.100
Well, way to make me look like if all this radiance is paid off, so just a little lesson

02:32:15.100 --> 02:32:16.100
for you guys out there.

02:32:16.100 --> 02:32:17.460
Just always go for the greedy builds.

02:32:17.460 --> 02:32:18.860
Just not Midas though.

02:32:18.860 --> 02:32:19.860
Midas is not a greedy build.

02:32:19.860 --> 02:32:20.860
Okay, hold on a second there.

02:32:20.860 --> 02:32:22.800
Hold on a second.

02:32:22.800 --> 02:32:26.740
Is there not a single target spell other than Reaper's side?

02:32:26.740 --> 02:32:28.460
Because Shadow Strike is AoE now.

02:32:28.460 --> 02:32:29.460
With X, yeah.

02:32:29.460 --> 02:32:31.020
No, there's nothing.

02:32:31.020 --> 02:32:32.020
That's crazy.

02:32:32.020 --> 02:32:33.820
This is such a good Lincoln's game.

02:32:33.820 --> 02:32:35.300
You have to use an item.

02:32:35.300 --> 02:32:36.300
Yeah.

02:32:36.300 --> 02:32:38.300
That's their only way.

02:32:38.300 --> 02:32:40.300
That's crazy. You'll see that very often.

02:32:40.300 --> 02:32:42.300
Yeah. True that.

02:32:42.300 --> 02:32:46.300
Excellent purchase. I think they should buy more of them, maybe.

02:32:46.300 --> 02:32:48.300
I wouldn't mind seeing a Lincoln's...

02:32:48.300 --> 02:32:51.300
I know this might sound crazy, but I actually think you can buy Lincoln's on Tiny this game.

02:32:51.300 --> 02:32:52.300
Really?

02:32:52.300 --> 02:32:55.300
Which you basically never see, but for the reason you just gave,

02:32:55.300 --> 02:32:57.300
it's kind of interesting as an idea, right?

02:32:57.300 --> 02:32:58.300
Yeah.

02:32:58.300 --> 02:33:01.300
Worst case scenario, you're forcing the enemy team to buy a Lincoln's Breaker,

02:33:01.300 --> 02:33:03.300
and who's gonna buy... I guess the bear.

02:33:03.300 --> 02:33:09.100
Maybe it's too bad when the bear can just buy one somewhat cheaply, like a Lincoln, a

02:33:09.100 --> 02:33:10.340
Diffusal or whatever.

02:33:10.340 --> 02:33:12.700
He's actually buying that regardless, so you know what, I take it back.

02:33:12.700 --> 02:33:15.500
Don't buy it on Tiny, but I like it, I'm doing it.

02:33:15.500 --> 02:33:16.820
Alright, Satanic's bear.

02:33:16.820 --> 02:33:20.740
He runs into most of Falcon's heroes and he's going to die.

02:33:20.740 --> 02:33:24.780
Dive in from Ducalus actually uses his egg because the fire spirit's hitting, so

02:33:24.780 --> 02:33:26.380
now Falcons have to run away.

02:33:26.380 --> 02:33:28.540
Yeah, unfortunately there's no stun, so they just run away.

02:33:28.540 --> 02:33:30.940
Snake, you know, will fall.

02:33:30.940 --> 02:33:37.240
From the re-initiation Skeeter and I'm thinking about it. I'll read from the top left

02:33:37.240 --> 02:33:41.460
fishing here. I'm just gonna see them all he's jumping into the rem then randomly

02:33:41.460 --> 02:33:45.840
there. Night class but has the shard. Overhead of that. Good job. Well if you

02:33:45.840 --> 02:33:50.180
didn't have the shard though it's been really dicey. So good for him that

02:33:50.180 --> 02:33:57.220
you got that from the Tormento. It's French today. Yeah Tormento. We need

02:33:57.220 --> 02:34:01.820
some cosmet more cosmetics for the tormentors turn into a baguette a baguette

02:34:01.820 --> 02:34:07.220
yeah that's French oh I see those I was like that's a very random thing to turn

02:34:07.220 --> 02:34:11.700
the tormentor at least you had a reason for it right into the pit paravision

02:34:11.700 --> 02:34:14.500
goes and you can see falcons are spread across the map so this looks to be a

02:34:14.500 --> 02:34:20.020
freebie you could turn the tormentor into certain action slacks it just

02:34:20.020 --> 02:34:25.020
Screeches at the top of real life tormenter.

02:34:25.020 --> 02:34:28.020
There's the diffusel for Satanic.

02:34:28.020 --> 02:34:33.020
It's gonna tarnish this into a disperser immediately as this next build up.

02:34:33.020 --> 02:34:37.020
This is a nice pick up. I'm assuming you give this one to the queen or to the neck girl.

02:34:37.020 --> 02:34:39.020
We'll be queen, okay?

02:34:39.020 --> 02:34:42.020
You want to use this very aggressively.

02:34:42.020 --> 02:34:48.020
You want Qwak to blink in and soak damage because now she is a very unappealing Doom target.

02:34:48.020 --> 02:34:51.020
So this is good for parry.

02:34:51.020 --> 02:34:53.020
The spot tower is dead.

02:34:53.020 --> 02:34:56.020
I don't think Falcons are interested in any business down here.

02:34:56.020 --> 02:34:57.020
Just going to delay it.

02:34:57.020 --> 02:34:58.020
Be annoying.

02:34:58.020 --> 02:35:00.020
I guess they'll get the deny.

02:35:00.020 --> 02:35:01.020
Amar. No?

02:35:01.020 --> 02:35:02.020
No, okay.

02:35:02.020 --> 02:35:03.020
Not interested in that.

02:35:03.020 --> 02:35:05.020
I'm going to get scouted by the Monty.

02:35:05.020 --> 02:35:07.020
Oh, actually misses the boundless strike.

02:35:07.020 --> 02:35:09.020
Amar with a good juke.

02:35:09.020 --> 02:35:11.020
Still has the BKB.

02:35:11.020 --> 02:35:13.020
Not going to be forced to use it.

02:35:13.020 --> 02:35:14.020
The link is just popped.

02:35:14.020 --> 02:35:15.020
There's no one taking ton of damage.

02:35:15.020 --> 02:35:17.020
That's life number one already.

02:35:17.020 --> 02:35:21.940
Nighthack sums up with the Wukong's command, but to little effect this is not what I meant with

02:35:22.820 --> 02:35:26.420
Just just for the record. Oh, really? I don't think that was great out snaking

02:35:27.100 --> 02:35:29.100
well

02:35:29.180 --> 02:35:32.920
Really a fair fights against the lone druids

02:35:35.500 --> 02:35:39.700
Satanic will grab that kill or even buy against that like even if you get a ghost after you just

02:35:40.140 --> 02:35:44.660
Ghost after TP you get feared. Yeah, and he is buying disperse or two for the dispell

02:35:44.660 --> 02:35:48.240
I mean the best item against the laundry bear a lot of the time is shadow blade

02:35:49.520 --> 02:35:52.040
Then the bear has a lot of action amulet

02:35:52.920 --> 02:35:59.460
Well, that's part of the shadow blade just amulet just to just stand there until it runs out

02:35:59.460 --> 02:36:02.980
You know, yeah, I know how long is it now? It's like eight seconds

02:36:02.980 --> 02:36:06.540
It's not that long as it I never know this because this I just so bad

02:36:06.540 --> 02:36:13.740
Yeah, we used to love seeing it when people would grief the game 3.5. You're kidding. It's so sure that is garbage

02:36:13.740 --> 02:36:20.720
Oh my god, speeder gonna have some get some help rather for the global silence gets to the other side of the wall

02:36:25.080 --> 02:36:27.980
Are coming to play level 20 now on the doom

02:36:31.020 --> 02:36:33.020
Not opting for a blink dagger yet

02:36:35.820 --> 02:36:37.820
Like crit almost has eggs

02:36:37.820 --> 02:36:43.660
He was having such a bad game dying so much, he's just been chilling, he's just farming

02:36:43.660 --> 02:36:44.660
it up.

02:36:44.660 --> 02:36:47.740
Alright, what does he want to steal here?

02:36:47.740 --> 02:36:50.620
Repersize, obviously, it's an incredible steal.

02:36:50.620 --> 02:36:51.620
Sonic Wave.

02:36:51.620 --> 02:36:52.620
I mean, the, yeah.

02:36:52.620 --> 02:36:53.860
I probably just want Sonic and Dagger to die.

02:36:53.860 --> 02:36:55.420
You just want to be quop.

02:36:55.420 --> 02:36:56.420
Sonic and Shadow Strike.

02:36:56.420 --> 02:36:57.420
What?

02:36:57.420 --> 02:36:58.420
Get your own bear.

02:36:58.420 --> 02:37:01.860
You know, what happens if you put, if you steal bear, you put an item on the

02:37:01.860 --> 02:37:03.460
bear.

02:37:03.460 --> 02:37:04.460
What happens?

02:37:04.460 --> 02:37:05.620
And then you lose the bear?

02:37:05.620 --> 02:37:10.620
Yeah, you lose the Spell entirely, then let's say you get it again, do you keep that item?

02:37:10.620 --> 02:37:15.620
I don't know. This sounds like something Valve did not test for and something that will cause issues.

02:37:15.620 --> 02:37:16.620
Let's crush that server.

02:37:16.620 --> 02:37:18.620
Yeah, I'm not sure about that one.

02:37:19.620 --> 02:37:22.620
I think that you would keep the item on the bear.

02:37:22.620 --> 02:37:27.620
I wonder if the Spell is still stealable after it was changed to the Spell that Londrid starts with.

02:37:28.620 --> 02:37:31.620
It, I mean it should be. It's a castable spell.

02:37:31.620 --> 02:37:37.120
Yeah, there's so many should-bees with Rubik, and we've talked about this, there's so many should-bees or shouldn't-bees, and they are.

02:37:38.420 --> 02:37:39.920
Fair. And aren't.

02:37:40.720 --> 02:37:43.120
You feel me? Aren't? Aren't.

02:37:45.220 --> 02:37:47.220
DeKala's going for a sheepstick, wow.

02:37:48.920 --> 02:37:52.620
Um, yeah, they don't have catch. Somebody's gotta buy it.

02:37:53.420 --> 02:37:56.920
I think it's a good purchase. Phoenix is also one of the better heroes to buy this item on in general.

02:37:56.920 --> 02:38:04.660
Skitter trying to win against the bear. He's successfully going to send it out from his

02:38:04.660 --> 02:38:14.700
bottom wave and try to push the lane. Now smoke up from par vision. And in turn from

02:38:14.700 --> 02:38:21.460
Falcons going, they are looking for Satanic. They know where he is because, well...

02:38:21.460 --> 02:38:22.460
Too slow.

02:38:22.460 --> 02:38:24.460
Is this hero worth game?

02:38:24.460 --> 02:38:30.460
No, Amar. Speaking of ganks, the bear, I'm just going to go down once, attempt a TP, Amar.

02:38:30.460 --> 02:38:32.460
Nope, it's done.

02:38:33.460 --> 02:38:38.460
Here in mind you can reaper heroes that are BKB, by the way. They don't get stunned, but they take damage.

02:38:38.460 --> 02:38:40.460
Half, right? They take the...

02:38:41.460 --> 02:38:46.460
So this has gone through different phases. There was one point where you couldn't reaper BKB heroes at all.

02:38:46.460 --> 02:38:49.460
Then there was a point where you could reaper BKB heroes and stun them, but deal no damage.

02:38:49.460 --> 02:38:52.940
damage and now you have the middle ground where it doesn't stun but it doesn't.

02:38:52.940 --> 02:38:56.060
I thought the, okay, Skeeter and a bit of trouble.

02:38:56.060 --> 02:39:01.900
Egg is placed actually as Skeeter now will be able to silver edge away but the dust connects.

02:39:01.900 --> 02:39:04.060
Still chasing is nine class.

02:39:04.060 --> 02:39:06.660
Satanic's bear not far behind.

02:39:06.660 --> 02:39:13.020
I envision Talcanis to save, boundless strike, Skeeter, save but tiny and there's the

02:39:13.020 --> 02:39:14.860
Avalanche should be safe now.

02:39:14.860 --> 02:39:18.300
I feel like the original version was the piercing stun.

02:39:18.300 --> 02:39:21.740
Did you take it in the correct order or you just picked a random order?

02:39:21.740 --> 02:39:25.660
Because he definitely said that it is not Pierce initially.

02:39:25.660 --> 02:39:28.380
The original Necroult was a Pierce.

02:39:28.380 --> 02:39:34.540
It stunned, but it did not deal damage through BQB.

02:39:34.540 --> 02:39:39.060
Which meant essentially it was kind of like a TP cancel mostly.

02:39:39.060 --> 02:39:41.660
Some rare occasions it was nice to stun the hero, but obviously you kind of won the

02:39:41.660 --> 02:39:43.700
damage part of this.

02:39:43.700 --> 02:39:44.700
Oh my!

02:39:44.700 --> 02:39:49.620
Titanic's bear goes down to good old the right clicks from snaking. Yep

02:39:50.580 --> 02:39:55.100
Yeah, it has to wait on the bear a bit, but I do steal in from the bear. I actually didn't notice I

02:39:55.860 --> 02:39:57.860
Doubt it is a hero now

02:39:58.860 --> 02:40:00.860
I guess he should be able to

02:40:01.540 --> 02:40:03.540
Does the bear have in yeah?

02:40:04.500 --> 02:40:06.500
See why you wouldn't

02:40:06.500 --> 02:40:11.620
Alright, so free tormentor for paravision number two.

02:40:11.620 --> 02:40:15.580
Shard goes to, I don't even know what this does, is this Fetch or something?

02:40:15.580 --> 02:40:19.860
Uh, wait, when you get the shard from tormentor on loan, which one do you get?

02:40:19.860 --> 02:40:20.860
Do you get both?

02:40:20.860 --> 02:40:23.020
Like, does he have both?

02:40:23.020 --> 02:40:27.060
He has it on his hero.

02:40:27.060 --> 02:40:28.620
Would he have purchased that?

02:40:28.620 --> 02:40:30.740
I don't know how that works.

02:40:30.740 --> 02:40:33.780
I think he bought his own, I guess the bear got it, right?

02:40:33.780 --> 02:40:34.780
I don't think he bought Fetch.

02:40:34.780 --> 02:40:39.060
the bear is considered part of the net worth I don't know how this works this

02:40:39.060 --> 02:40:43.940
hero's weird it's just so weird but now he has fetch which is effectively a mini

02:40:43.940 --> 02:40:49.420
lasso so he can grab an ally enemy or rune and pull them toward laundry it

02:40:49.420 --> 02:40:55.180
channeling I actually haven't seen it it's not channel you call us at the toss

02:40:55.180 --> 02:41:01.060
dead it's not channel no I mean the bear grabs you and then it can run I see

02:41:01.060 --> 02:41:04.580
It can run with you can move quite far or the bears very fast

02:41:05.700 --> 02:41:08.700
Lamar this is a very unexpected attack angle

02:41:10.620 --> 02:41:13.620
It's not there in time or the Lotus rather I didn't

02:41:14.300 --> 02:41:18.700
That's gonna be a dead Necro again the doom and just too much to handle

02:41:18.940 --> 02:41:22.800
And we go for this bear as well and they have the numbers and they have to kill

02:41:22.800 --> 02:41:25.260
I really thought I success got the Lotus off in time

02:41:25.260 --> 02:41:29.680
That was super close to a reflected doom which would have made a difference there. I think I

02:41:31.060 --> 02:41:35.420
I'm not sure Amar would have been able to kill him without the additional infernal blades and the chase down potential.

02:41:36.120 --> 02:41:38.520
But once again, a very nice attack angle.

02:41:39.560 --> 02:41:41.820
Coming in there from the back and blinking onto him.

02:41:41.820 --> 02:41:45.120
Still has the speed creep by the way. Do you think he's just going to keep that the whole game?

02:41:45.120 --> 02:41:47.400
He did that. I think he's either done that...

02:41:48.060 --> 02:41:50.900
Did he have it last game too? No, he had congregations of the deep last game, right?

02:41:51.560 --> 02:41:56.660
But in game one of Lone Drift that we watched the other day, the first game he played it, he had to speed-feed the whole game.

02:41:57.800 --> 02:41:58.600
It is very good.

02:41:58.600 --> 02:42:01.600
12% movespeed aura.

02:42:01.600 --> 02:42:04.840
You think the centaur stomp, which we used to see all the time.

02:42:04.840 --> 02:42:09.180
Is that too slow of a cast time for like Nekker to get Lotus off?

02:42:09.180 --> 02:42:13.800
It's too slow of a cast time and it's been less appealing ever since you've had infernal

02:42:13.800 --> 02:42:15.300
blade.

02:42:15.300 --> 02:42:18.200
The time that you used to mainly take the centaur was before infernal blade.

02:42:18.200 --> 02:42:21.280
What does that mean before infernal blade?

02:42:21.280 --> 02:42:22.680
Doom didn't used to have that ability.

02:42:22.680 --> 02:42:23.880
That's when you were always running the centaur.

02:42:23.880 --> 02:42:24.880
No, no, no.

02:42:24.880 --> 02:42:25.880
It's done.

02:42:25.880 --> 02:42:26.880
Yeah, okay, sure.

02:42:26.880 --> 02:42:27.880
But...

02:42:27.880 --> 02:42:31.960
it's less important. There was like a two-year period where Centaur's Stomp was the only

02:42:31.960 --> 02:42:36.360
ability that he would take and and that's when you also had infernal blade was yeah

02:42:36.360 --> 02:42:41.280
absolutely this is like semi-recent it's like two years ago. I'm just trying to

02:42:41.280 --> 02:42:43.760
think of like the stun numbers and the attack speed and stuff right because

02:42:43.760 --> 02:42:46.880
obviously all these things matter. I think they made the Stomp worse that's

02:42:46.880 --> 02:42:49.760
part of it and they made the other creeps better in general with that

02:42:49.760 --> 02:42:54.480
huge rework to the neutrals. I just I don't remember the chain of how

02:42:54.480 --> 02:42:59.680
things happen and it also matters what dooms attack speed is right yeah so if you have really good attack

02:42:59.680 --> 02:43:05.680
speed then infernal blade becomes increasingly reliable as a way of of setting off the boss he's

02:43:05.680 --> 02:43:11.680
going to pop some smokes here now rain has the shield room can be dispersed or off though and it's

02:43:11.680 --> 02:43:15.280
going to so now he's back to normal amount of HP there's a global science so the skier gets in

02:43:15.280 --> 02:43:19.520
the stun onto the neck or getting blown up very low gets off that was something just in time

02:43:19.520 --> 02:43:24.480
healing up now as a result of what they earn as well. Gets off the death post will live for the

02:43:24.480 --> 02:43:28.000
time being but Amar is eventually going to chase him down. It takes a while but they get the

02:43:28.000 --> 02:43:32.960
Necro in the end and Amar, stealing the Invis, ruined the dust on the bear. Really,

02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:37.920
takes an infernal blade for his troubles as well and out of telekinesis keeps Amar safe.

02:43:39.120 --> 02:43:44.320
The bear will fall yet again. How does he even have inventory space for a dust on the bear

02:43:44.320 --> 02:43:47.600
at this point? Yeah, that's the thing. He's going to not have that anymore. When he gets

02:43:47.600 --> 02:43:53.740
This is the second bear. They can somehow get this. That would be a pretty big deal. Nice

02:43:53.740 --> 02:43:58.200
Aether Remnant fighting nine class. Sunray is going to keep them healthy for now. Not

02:43:58.200 --> 02:44:02.380
for long though. Satanic Bear already at half HP and you can see the Shadow Strikes

02:44:02.380 --> 02:44:08.260
continue to be applied by Crit. Sonic Wave. Satanic. This bear, Aether Remnant, walks

02:44:08.260 --> 02:44:11.780
right into it. Faithful as well. The Shadow Strike on him. They just need a little

02:44:11.780 --> 02:44:18.740
directly damage and they get it with the last burst from Mal'Reen so no bear for quite a while.

02:44:18.740 --> 02:44:22.340
He's basically dead, right? This is a one-man cooldown. His hero's just useless.

02:44:23.540 --> 02:44:28.100
So this is a big timing for Falcons. Unfortunately for them, Roche is not up until exactly in a

02:44:28.100 --> 02:44:33.060
minute so things will be back into play but a great successful attack.

02:44:35.940 --> 02:44:40.260
And you're... you're... I gent... you're really seeing the limitations of Parvish's lineup when

02:44:40.260 --> 02:44:41.340
and it doesn't snowball, right?

02:44:41.340 --> 02:44:44.420
It just feels like every single fight, more or less,

02:44:44.420 --> 02:44:45.980
Falcons have so many tools.

02:44:45.980 --> 02:44:49.020
They can global if they get jumped by the enemy team.

02:44:49.020 --> 02:44:50.780
They can make all the aggressive plays themselves

02:44:50.780 --> 02:44:52.740
through Void Spirit, through Tiny from Invis,

02:44:52.740 --> 02:44:54.180
through Rubik Lyft.

02:44:54.180 --> 02:44:56.940
If they get a doom off on either QWAP or Necro,

02:44:56.940 --> 02:44:59.340
their fight is just over, which is exactly what happened.

02:44:59.340 --> 02:45:01.820
They doomed no one and he just didn't play.

02:45:01.820 --> 02:45:03.300
Don't do call us.

02:45:03.300 --> 02:45:04.660
Tries to go through the gate.

02:45:04.660 --> 02:45:06.700
We'll suffer the consequences.

02:45:06.700 --> 02:45:09.300
Tried to ULMR there to stop the offensive play,

02:45:09.300 --> 02:45:11.720
but he is Lincoln, so.

02:45:11.720 --> 02:45:12.760
Oh, SSS.

02:45:12.760 --> 02:45:13.760
Can't afford to die here.

02:45:13.760 --> 02:45:15.000
Do they have the vision?

02:45:15.000 --> 02:45:16.080
Oh, they get the avalanche.

02:45:16.080 --> 02:45:18.920
I think, I don't know if they even had vision there.

02:45:18.920 --> 02:45:19.960
They get the kill.

02:45:19.960 --> 02:45:20.920
Just around the corner.

02:45:20.920 --> 02:45:21.800
Man.

02:45:21.800 --> 02:45:24.240
Saw a glimpse of him as they went around.

02:45:24.240 --> 02:45:26.680
They have come back with a vengeance in this game.

02:45:26.680 --> 02:45:29.240
Paravidion, I mean, they had like close to an 80%

02:45:29.240 --> 02:45:31.360
win probability at a certain point.

02:45:31.360 --> 02:45:33.320
Yeah.

02:45:33.320 --> 02:45:35.840
It's under the condition that you really,

02:45:35.840 --> 02:45:38.440
the thing about that, when expectancy is, first of all,

02:45:38.440 --> 02:45:46.400
I don't really agree with it, but what I do see in it is a very little margin for error.

02:45:46.400 --> 02:45:51.360
And I think that's, to be honest, I don't know if Parvishan is at a level right now as

02:45:51.360 --> 02:45:54.700
a team in what they've shown in this tournament where they can execute those strategies to

02:45:54.700 --> 02:46:00.720
perfection, which is what I think it requires to consider that an 80-20.

02:46:00.720 --> 02:46:03.080
Why would Dota Plus take that into account though?

02:46:03.080 --> 02:46:04.080
I don't know.

02:46:04.080 --> 02:46:05.320
Neither of us knows how it works.

02:46:05.320 --> 02:46:06.600
Jeff, that's a little...

02:46:06.600 --> 02:46:11.420
I'm looking at this from the perspective of this is let's say this was a pub game for a high rated pub game and the line of her in the

02:46:11.420 --> 02:46:13.620
Game State they were I think it's less in 80 20

02:46:13.980 --> 02:46:18.920
Because I think the radiant lineup courtesy of having stunts and silences is just going to exploit mistakes way better

02:46:19.320 --> 02:46:24.640
So I don't know. I mean clearly par vision were in the lead. There's no doubt about it, but we've

02:46:25.180 --> 02:46:28.400
I'm sure I think you agree with this that we've found the

02:46:28.840 --> 02:46:33.300
The graphs to be less accurate than they used to be we always agree with them more

02:46:33.300 --> 02:46:39.460
They are only a talking point now. They serve no other purpose. They're not useful in any way

02:46:41.140 --> 02:46:48.020
They used to feel quite accurate no for sure for sure other than specter games as the bear again gonna try the front line to take out the

02:46:48.020 --> 02:46:49.100
Roche banner

02:46:49.100 --> 02:46:53.980
Well, I've been cost of one life though. Lotus applied. That's the resummon

02:46:54.500 --> 02:46:58.020
Does who comes command not gonna last too much longer ages?

02:46:58.020 --> 02:47:00.020
Plenty of time for Skeeter.

02:47:00.020 --> 02:47:02.020
So that's Wukong and a bear for a banner.

02:47:02.020 --> 02:47:04.020
And he has a Daedalus on the way as well.

02:47:04.020 --> 02:47:06.020
He's going to be hitting like a truck.

02:47:06.020 --> 02:47:10.020
Satanic's bear just standing around taking debuff after debuff.

02:47:10.020 --> 02:47:12.020
Mal Ring going to focus a little bit on to 9 class.

02:47:12.020 --> 02:47:15.020
There's MR jumps in with the Infernal Blade.

02:47:15.020 --> 02:47:18.020
He's doing some chip damage, but that was more than chip damage.

02:47:18.020 --> 02:47:20.020
He goes in with the Astral Step. He can be able to heal thanks to the lowest Mal Ring.

02:47:20.020 --> 02:47:22.020
They're going to use the Global Silence.

02:47:22.020 --> 02:47:25.020
The bear on the cover of darkness will survive.

02:47:25.020 --> 02:47:28.460
So Global ends up kind of being wasted for snaking.

02:47:28.460 --> 02:47:33.140
They've crocked the disc of Malrin, nicely done from par vision to stall things out here.

02:47:34.900 --> 02:47:38.520
It can be a lot harder for Malrin to go offensive, both disc and Global used.

02:47:38.520 --> 02:47:42.780
Arguably the Global may be wasted, since he has disc, I think Malrin can play his own way out of that,

02:47:42.780 --> 02:47:44.820
so maybe a little overkill on the defense.

02:47:44.820 --> 02:47:47.020
But if they...

02:47:47.020 --> 02:47:48.020
Ooh!

02:47:48.020 --> 02:47:49.520
He's going to die from that.

02:47:49.520 --> 02:47:51.020
Oh, you saw that.

02:47:51.020 --> 02:47:55.760
Nathan Remnindoh from Mal Rain and now they're jumping from Amar. This is gonna be the second bear kill

02:47:56.480 --> 02:48:02.020
How long does he have on that? Don't worry. It's back in 30 seconds. That's still that's a decent amount of time

02:48:03.020 --> 02:48:05.020
Now that the data was online for Skeeter

02:48:05.580 --> 02:48:07.580
Just go high ground. I

02:48:07.960 --> 02:48:15.420
Think if I mean I'm expecting laundry to get nerfed after this tournament, right? I think the level 10 talent is probably where it's at a

02:48:15.420 --> 02:48:21.840
A level 10 talent minus 25 second spirit bear cooldown is I think that's kind of like a respawn talent

02:48:21.840 --> 02:48:25.480
If you think about they all got removed I think respawn that should literally be removed

02:48:25.480 --> 02:48:29.600
Yeah, that is you should be punished for getting two kills on the bear. Yeah

02:48:30.840 --> 02:48:32.840
Though at least be step number one

02:48:32.960 --> 02:48:37.020
I'm kind of surprised they put that in the game after removing all the respawn talents years ago

02:48:37.020 --> 02:48:42.660
Okay, jump in on to the necro doom. Not sure if he was even needed, but they'll take that home and

02:48:42.660 --> 02:48:47.420
And Nekro cannot buy back in the game 70 seconds having to wait it out

02:48:48.260 --> 02:48:52.640
Okay, as do call this turns into a soldier being annoying as always

02:48:52.980 --> 02:48:59.860
It's jumped on has to stop and DKB as well. They are under ridiculous pressure here

02:49:00.100 --> 02:49:03.880
Just constant spam as well from yeah, they're shadows try those trucks

02:49:05.780 --> 02:49:09.700
I'm not gonna lie. I know that this game was going really really well for Paragish

02:49:09.700 --> 02:49:13.700
I feel like if you're picking QWAP, I don't know when Rubik was picked. You've got to consider banning it.

02:49:13.700 --> 02:49:20.200
That is, if they get agged, it's insanely powerful. You can become a literally more powerful QWAP than a lot of security.

02:49:20.200 --> 02:49:21.200
I think that's very fair.

02:49:23.200 --> 02:49:24.700
We've seen it in two games now.

02:49:24.700 --> 02:49:25.200
Yep.

02:49:26.200 --> 02:49:31.700
The one lane for Falcons. Two minutes on the Aegis. It's the Baron and Precarious spot.

02:49:31.700 --> 02:49:36.200
Trying to get Sunrayed, but they're going to get the Silence, the Aether Remnant, and that's a Baron down again.

02:49:36.200 --> 02:49:40.200
His solo kills Phoenix on Mal'Rean. No risk to initiating, they can't kill him anyway.

02:49:40.200 --> 02:49:43.200
Mara jumping in, forcing the rest of ParaVision out.

02:49:43.200 --> 02:49:48.200
And no bear for 20 seconds, so this should be another lane.

02:49:49.200 --> 02:49:53.200
Benefits of having a Tiny on your team, he can push with the best of them.

02:49:54.200 --> 02:49:57.200
I don't really know how ParaVision deal with this at this point.

02:49:57.200 --> 02:49:59.200
Mal'Rean has completely free fights.

02:49:59.200 --> 02:50:02.200
He constantly just jumps in and disrupts the back line with no risk of dying,

02:50:02.200 --> 02:50:04.200
because they're only stunned as a Monkey King stunned.

02:50:04.200 --> 02:50:06.740
And even if they connect that he has discs so they can't reap for him.

02:50:06.740 --> 02:50:11.320
Yeah, let's just jump in on to the co-op, he's gonna get doomed.

02:50:11.320 --> 02:50:14.280
And that's the death of no one again.

02:50:14.280 --> 02:50:17.540
Nine class caught off guard, gets avatar, gets killed off.

02:50:17.540 --> 02:50:20.540
Fly back for the monkey team, they don't have one for no one though,

02:50:20.540 --> 02:50:24.200
but they're gonna call it GG knowing that there's just, they're out of steam here.

02:50:24.200 --> 02:50:27.920
And Paravision eliminated here, FBG of Lock-In.

02:50:27.920 --> 02:50:30.020
Falcons will move on in this lower bracket.

02:50:30.020 --> 02:50:33.540
I was gonna say that once a tilter, but you're out of the tournament, so...

02:50:34.200 --> 02:50:37.640
told your way all the way back to the hotel room I guess that sucks that

02:50:37.640 --> 02:50:42.000
honestly that was a bit of a sad way the way that played out for Parvizion

02:50:42.000 --> 02:50:45.320
they took a risk with the lineup today they played a lot of new heroes for

02:50:45.320 --> 02:50:48.200
first time in the tournament didn't fully seem comfortable and in their

02:50:48.200 --> 02:50:51.840
element with everything and the lineup here had some clear strengths and some

02:50:51.840 --> 02:50:56.400
clear flaws and we saw both sides of that coin but all in cinder and falcons

02:50:56.400 --> 02:51:02.080
looking amazing here in the lower bracket so far yes probably the

02:51:02.080 --> 02:51:06.320
first time we've seen them have two very good games back-to-back in the tournament

02:51:06.320 --> 02:51:11.680
which doesn't bode well for everyone in that lower bracket. Super sad for

02:51:11.680 --> 02:51:16.000
ParaVision but let's be real about it this was not the optimal ParaVision

02:51:16.000 --> 02:51:20.960
there's something going on we don't know what it is we'll probably find out

02:51:20.960 --> 02:51:27.560
in about a week. Definitely ParaVision they made this trade in the draft where

02:51:27.560 --> 02:51:30.560
They gave the Doom away against the Necrons so they can pick this Lone Druid.

02:51:31.860 --> 02:51:37.260
It did not work out. I feel like the entire team had so much potential.

02:51:37.560 --> 02:51:41.060
They were practically almost snowballing without the Lone Druid.

02:51:41.260 --> 02:51:44.560
And then when the time came, they needed the carry.

02:51:44.860 --> 02:51:46.760
He wasn't there. He doesn't exist.

02:51:46.860 --> 02:51:50.560
He's a Lone Druid. He's farming. He's waiting agonies, waiting timings.

02:51:50.960 --> 02:51:52.460
And he's just gonna be part of the game.

02:51:53.060 --> 02:51:56.560
And we talked about the lack of the Doom ban as well.

02:51:56.560 --> 02:51:58.560
This is the hero

02:51:58.960 --> 02:52:01.680
More so than Bristleback that Amar is going to now

02:52:02.040 --> 02:52:06.920
But this was a great Dune game and he played it unbelievably well, and they they could abandon it

02:52:06.920 --> 02:52:08.920
They didn't have to play against us. They could have

02:52:09.560 --> 02:52:16.560
Honestly, the more and more I see Dune the more I'm convinced that it's simply really good on this patch

02:52:16.560 --> 02:52:22.440
And that the nerves to it like people kind of overestimated almost, you know, the

02:52:22.440 --> 02:52:27.600
scorched earth nerf, it lost quite a lot of damage. I looked at the win rate it's

02:52:27.600 --> 02:52:34.160
about 60% in this tournament and Amar is 3-0 on it now. It feels like he has

02:52:34.160 --> 02:52:39.240
invented a new build that he really likes. The radiance. He likes the radiance.

02:52:39.240 --> 02:52:43.080
We thought maybe it was like a game-state thing but it seems like it's a

02:52:43.080 --> 02:52:48.000
game... oh man. It's like a game-pacing thing for him and by

02:52:48.000 --> 02:52:53.160
I really love this the counter to the Lotus orb by getting the self Lincoln's on doom

02:52:53.240 --> 02:52:57.020
So we can just doom into the Lotus orb doom himself

02:52:57.020 --> 02:53:02.840
But Lincoln's block it and so he still gets the doom off. This was super effective for pretty much the entire game

02:53:02.840 --> 02:53:11.920
So very creative stuff coming from ATF with the doom. Yeah, I again you saw the emotions on paravision there. It's just

02:53:11.920 --> 02:53:16.820
They were just in a strange place at this event.

02:53:16.820 --> 02:53:23.680
I have never seen no one slap his head in his hands that much.

02:53:23.680 --> 02:53:30.760
And also I've never seen him make so many mistakes, satanic as well.

02:53:30.760 --> 02:53:31.760
Not a great sound.

02:53:31.760 --> 02:53:32.760
Two rough games.

02:53:32.760 --> 02:53:33.760
Definitely not.

02:53:33.760 --> 02:53:37.280
It's been his worst day in the family by far.

02:53:37.280 --> 02:53:39.200
They were really relying on him.

02:53:39.200 --> 02:53:42.800
I'm kind of sad because it was their game to lose just

02:53:43.280 --> 02:53:48.160
No carry there when you need it, but Falco's on the other hand they really played I'm the carry now

02:53:48.400 --> 02:53:53.440
Really? Well, just ma what I'm hard with the classic radiance doom top of the network

02:53:53.440 --> 02:53:58.580
I think it was like at some point 8 10k over his mid laner and he's carry like he just doesn't care

02:53:58.580 --> 02:54:02.480
It's farming. Yeah, he did the most zero damage in the game as well

02:54:02.680 --> 02:54:06.400
Like sketer just does not need to play carry win a Mars on the team

02:54:06.400 --> 02:54:12.400
Most GPM, most XPM, most Sierra Damage, crazy network.

02:54:12.400 --> 02:54:13.900
It's incredible performance from him.

02:54:13.900 --> 02:54:16.400
Well, no doubt he's going to flex on us all now,

02:54:16.400 --> 02:54:18.400
because Amart is with slacks.

02:54:18.400 --> 02:54:20.400
Absolutely. Thank you so much, guys.

02:54:20.400 --> 02:54:23.400
Yep, I am here with the God himself, Mr. ATF Amart.

02:54:23.400 --> 02:54:25.400
Thank you so much for an incredible series.

02:54:25.400 --> 02:54:29.400
I'd like to talk to you a little bit about farm priority on this team.

02:54:29.400 --> 02:54:31.900
Typically, you should be given it to the mid to carry.

02:54:31.900 --> 02:54:34.400
Every game, you are top net worth.

02:54:34.400 --> 02:54:37.400
Is this on purpose, or is this just the Amar aura?

02:54:40.400 --> 02:54:44.400
I guess it depends on the heroes, right? Like I'm playing Doom, Tide, Bristol.

02:54:44.400 --> 02:54:47.400
This type of heroes under whatever team they're...

02:54:47.400 --> 02:54:50.400
All these heroes just doesn't stun, don't do anything.

02:54:50.400 --> 02:54:55.400
They just fucking bot safe here, buying radiance, having Alch giving X.

02:54:55.400 --> 02:54:57.400
So yeah, I just play for fun.

02:54:57.400 --> 02:55:00.400
I didn't want to say that you played like a bot, but absolutely indeed.

02:55:00.400 --> 02:55:03.400
Let's talk a little bit about your Doom record here.

02:55:03.400 --> 02:55:05.400
Isn't it incredibly good?

02:55:05.600 --> 02:55:11.520
Yeah, my doom actually had one loss after TI only like it won like 12 or 13 matches now

02:55:12.120 --> 02:55:15.120
The only loss was actually against bad a bit you and they try in the doom

02:55:16.440 --> 02:55:21.300
What makes you so good at this hero cuz it just got nerfed to everybody was playing doom at the beginning of the last

02:55:21.300 --> 02:55:23.800
Tournament it got these heavy nerfs and you're the only guy left

02:55:23.800 --> 02:55:28.320
Did you just you know have that satanic aura? Are you a devil worshipper like what's the deal?

02:55:28.320 --> 02:55:32.920
I mean, I'm definitely 666. That's for sure. I'll unexpected answer, but thank you continue

02:55:33.400 --> 02:55:41.160
And the second is my signatures live inside me no matter what so somehow they would be made

02:55:41.960 --> 02:55:50.080
Great. Thank you so much. All right. Well, congratulations. You guys continue to move on a lot of teams kind of seem off this tournament

02:55:50.080 --> 02:55:53.080
You know enough to be this guy the pair of vision seemed like they weren't really themselves

02:55:53.080 --> 02:55:58.200
You guys are back up to snuff you guys seem to be back to the old Falcons that we know and love

02:55:58.440 --> 02:56:01.980
What is bro? Do you feel that way? Is the vibes on the team really good right now?

02:56:01.980 --> 02:56:07.380
I'm not sure we're back like I feel like I have my two of my players or like we're

02:56:07.380 --> 02:56:12.580
griefing super hard both games but I feel like I'm back if anything so like

02:56:12.580 --> 02:56:17.020
you know it's a bit egoistic but you know it's kind of true when you see

02:56:17.020 --> 02:56:21.220
these games I hope I don't jinx myself and go fucking grief next year's but

02:56:21.220 --> 02:56:25.500
like no like yeah I'm not sure like maybe we're back like as a team as a

02:56:25.500 --> 02:56:29.300
team where we look like we're better well it is good to hear and it would

02:56:29.300 --> 02:56:32.300
It would be funny if you grieved your team after that anyway, so respect.

02:56:32.300 --> 02:56:35.300
Alright, any words out there to some of the players that are still in the building?

02:56:35.300 --> 02:56:39.300
Of course, we have everybody watching this interview right now in the lobby.

02:56:39.300 --> 02:56:44.300
Any warnings, any threats, any, you know, all of branches for them.

02:56:44.300 --> 02:56:45.300
Wait, which players?

02:56:45.300 --> 02:56:48.300
The players on the enemy team are watching right now in the lobby.

02:56:48.300 --> 02:56:50.300
Which enemy?

02:56:50.300 --> 02:56:53.300
All of them. Literally everyone left in the tournament is still watching.

02:56:53.300 --> 02:56:56.300
Alright, everyone left in the tournament.

02:56:56.300 --> 02:57:00.440
Can you guys please give us Huskar? I really wanna win one game like in 15 minutes.

02:57:00.440 --> 02:57:06.360
Okay, fantastic. You out there listening right now, if you don't give this guy Huskar, you're cowards.

02:57:06.360 --> 02:57:09.000
You're absolutely filth. Worms!

02:57:09.000 --> 02:57:13.400
So give this guy some Huskar, let's see some Falcon Huskar. Let's go baby, get that claw up!

02:57:13.400 --> 02:57:15.400
AHHHHH! C-CALL!

02:57:19.400 --> 02:57:24.100
Am I as well? Just have that look on his face. I'm just so fucking done with these slacks and the views.

02:57:24.100 --> 02:57:29.100
I mean, if it wasn't Slax, it would still be an insane interview, Amar is out of his mind.

02:57:29.100 --> 02:57:33.100
I know. That's what I'm saying, dude. Like he's like, I am 6666.

02:57:33.100 --> 02:57:38.100
This is why the other esports look at Dota and they're like, what the fuck is going on over there?

02:57:38.100 --> 02:57:39.100
And people are insane.

02:57:39.100 --> 02:57:46.100
No, I mean, I'll say this, without Amar, I don't know if we would have as many funny interviews in Dota.

02:57:46.100 --> 02:57:50.100
I think he is the go-to guy for just crazy stuff being said.

02:57:50.100 --> 02:57:52.100
We should do some theory crafting.

02:57:52.100 --> 02:57:57.900
He said two of his teammates are griefing. Yeah, oh, you want to know which to it's not saying it's definitely not saying

02:57:58.420 --> 02:58:01.820
It's not crit. It's the course. Yeah, I appreciate the course. It's not

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But anyway, I mean we're gonna go to a break but I mean just quickly before we do Falcons

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Back he says he's back. It's not good enough to help us are back. Yeah, all kinds are back Paris vision are all

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Yeah, yeah, I think they're very strong

02:58:18.340 --> 02:58:22.180
You can't trust them when he says, you know, we're bad this and that like they just they look back

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They are back. All right briefing. Well, one of the team that is back as well is team liquid

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Welcome back. Time to talk about Team Liquid versus the South American Reject.

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We have to start with Liquid, had a great series against Bet Boom yesterday evening.

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The game went late, it was a long day, but they hung in the pocket, took a game off Bet Boom.

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And remember, they're doing all of this with a standing, and that is where our attention

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is going to go on the panel. We've obviously talked a lot about Boxy in recent times.

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He's potentially the greatest position for in the world, sets the tempo early.

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You lose him because he takes a break.

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It's hard to find a replacement.

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They bring in Ekky, you know what?

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Very similar hero pool.

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And as it turns out, pretty good player as well.

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Yeah, definitely a great option to have instead of Boxy.

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The guy has been looking great in the tournament so far.

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His attitude seems pretty positive.

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I loved the bits that PGL did

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when they showed the in-game communication.

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He always seems like he's just happy to beat him.

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He said that when we did an interview with him, he said, I am a yapper, and this is what this team needs.

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And here we see the difference between Boksy and Icky.

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All right, so these are the most popular heroes, support heroes of the patch.

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And we see Boksy has a good win rate on Tosk and Rubik, whereas Icky has a better win rate

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on hoodwink and batrider. Now, since Eki is standing in, Boxy, I don't think there's any

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confirmed reasons why he's not at this tournament. There's rumors, of course, but I feel like if

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you're liquid and they haven't so far they've had quite a good performance, not exactly where

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they want to be, obviously they want to be in the grand finals, they can still get there. And

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I feel like if they do manage to get there with Eki, they maybe might think about keep

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going with him maybe who knows I mean he's been very very good and as you say

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just the perfect patch for him in his hero pool and of course the perfect

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replacement team liquid don't need to reconceptualize their drafts or anything

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like that or their style and you know on the first couple of days they did

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seem a bit sluggish but then ecchi kind of is just you know you wouldn't you

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wouldn't know necessarily you were watching the reason that it's so

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hard to replace boxy is because, and this is from Insania at Dream League, who obviously

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has a lot of experience with these players.

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He basically said that the Tri-Core, like the three core Liquid players, they're the type

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of players where they play to their own limits.

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And it's kind of hard to follow them around in teamfights.

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And so because of that, Liquid has always struggled playing in formation.

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You have these three players who are so good at playing their limits that like really crazy shit happens

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They can do stuff that other teams cannot and boxy obviously is the most early game part of that

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So you take that cog out of the machine and you expect the whole machine to fall apart

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But indeed eckey has a kind of hyperbolic time chambered this where like you said his early on performances were

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Okay, like he's doing fine and now it's like me fits right in like good for him

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He was tested and he passed the test you talking about crazy shit happening

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So brought up a good step today in the pre-show regarding pings

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So you said it's hard to follow these guys right and in fact, they're always doing their own thing

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But then you have a icky. He's just pamping. It's pamping because he basically understands the problem

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And he's trying to help them. Yeah, that's it

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What's easier than just looking at a ping and just understanding what your team in there and he said he's a yapper

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So maybe that's a good thing.

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So yeah, talking about Crazy Shit Happening,

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South American rejects, always Crazy Shit Happening

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in South America it seems.

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And we've seen some very interesting drafts

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and of course they won the Grudge Match against Heroic

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and are on an emotional high right now.

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I mean, this team, as you can see,

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they've played so many games since they came here.

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39 official games in six days.

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They've basically been running more than six games of officials per day while preparing for series here.

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This is insane.

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Having to rest, and then we need like...

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They said it.

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They...

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So much.

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When we did the interview with them, the winners of the new debate, they said,

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Listen, we can't spend too much time talking here.

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We gotta go back to the hotel and play.

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I don't even know if they have time for prep.

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Like, I feel like these guys are just constantly screaming.

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Essentially, they don't have time to scream, but these are effectively screams for them.

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Just pure like raw practice. They went back after beating heroic and they lost the series

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It also went to one so like these guys have time for nothing other than playing Dota

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But the best way to improve is to play officials. So

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Whether they lost yesterday or won yesterday or lost in Dream League or one in PGL

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I feel like you're gonna get a completely different team depending on

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How how they show up that day because they have so many games

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They can have learned something that's a really big deal in their series last night that we didn't see

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Yeah, they have probably the most games played on this patch right now

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And this is gonna help them a lot when it comes to drafting and they will figure out some heroes before other teams do

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Not only that they've kind of been unlucky the last two series besides the heroic game

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They faced parry both times and I feel like that is a bad matchup for them

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Who knows if they didn't if they got some other team they could probably be in the upper bracket right now

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Yeah, absolutely. I mean you can see we're talking about drafting you've got these signature heroes over on the South American rejects

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You've got the clockwork obviously always could be there even though other people aren't picking it right now the conca in mid

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You know just all these things you have to think about

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Banning before you even get into building your own draft. Yeah, can't give back mega. I think yeah, you can't scare your hero

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And it's goes so well against most of these metta mid heroes right now

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So funny this is such a funny team that like no matter what the patch is

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Scofield will be picking clockwork always makes you'll be running on the other side of the map

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With that being said, you know liquid over the years

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This South American rejects team is a new team

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They do have some new players

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But I feel like Scofield is a very big part of that and liquid does have a lot of experience

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internationally playing against Scofield I I

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I want to say they're not going to fall for the old Scofield tricks that he does and they should be one of the better teams

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I like setting their own pace of the game and like okay now you have to come to us and

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It makes it uncomfortable for Scofield to do his things

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But I've also said that before and then I see like five heroes chasing him around at the wisdom shrine

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You know, it's like the best team in the world still Scofield is doing his thing

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So it's really hard to say I'm excited to see how it plays out here. I mean, this is this is where the

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dreams still alive right? We have South America can they keep going in the tournament maybe get a

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top three placement? I feel like if any South American team can do it this this is the one

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especially with WIT now and you would like for the G. Yeah. People put it. At the same time we

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have Liquid I mean if they get into the Grand Finals we might see a Liquid without boxy from

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now on it so high stakes high stakes game. I agree and and you can see the carry the

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carry matchup. I mean obviously we know all about Mikkei at this point in his career. What's

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incredible is that he's still somehow making the win run of work. He's been picking that.

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You know obviously loves to pick Kez. I think he's the best Kez carry although Satanic might

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disagree. So you never know which way he's going to go. I mean there's just so much to

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consider when you play in Team Liquid. I would say Satanic is a bit of a Kez

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I think Mickey is a bit of a laundry though, yes

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Well, and also yet the laundry would question are we gonna see it and the winner as well like I mean he's been loving this hero

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So does so has nightfall these these two guys are but only was playing winner right now

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I feel I'm caring mm-hmm Mickey is an interesting conversation in general because I feel like there was a few years where he was

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Carrying his team to be top tier and he kind of wasn't rated that highly and then people realized he was underrated and now

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Now, he is rated highly.

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They won a TI since then, and I really do think he is in the conversation of potential best

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carry players of all time, not in the traditional 1v5 sense, but in terms of setting the pace

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of the game.

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No other carry, other than maybe Skeeter in Dota history, has been able to allow their

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team to set such a pace, but I feel like Mikay can kind of do both as well, which

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is really impressive.

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This is a funny thing to me, when I look at Miki, he's like the niche of mid laners, of

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carries, sorry.

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And it's funny because they play in the same team, but to me, it's like this guy that

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he's played Dota before, right, then suddenly he has, he just becomes one of the best carries,

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right?

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And he's just constantly stable over and over, year after year, he's just there at the

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top making great impact for his teammates.

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And well, we were talking about it, you're not going to see the windrangers, so.

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It's over spec ban.

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There is.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, save has been playing as a pause for two.

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Also true.

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It's maybe our take on Windrunner has been dictated by watching the players that don't

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understand how it should be played currently or aren't fast enough to play with the Windrunner

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aren't showing up to enough fights because it has looked pretty bad when we've seen

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it at least in our games.

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A lot of the games that had success was against the Sardar, which does make sense

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because you get a free lane and in the game, you know, you kind of deal with other quite well.

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Yeah. But again, Mickey and Nightfall, they're different. They just love this hero.

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And they do ban the lonely ones. So no more lonely in the series. I'll kiss out as well. I'm happy for that.

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More respect being put on hoodwink in the first two series. I mean,

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I mean, it's very good for both sides, you know, ironically, we would love to see Schofield

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on one of his like cheesy heroes, but also he plays it in so does El Misho, so it covers

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a lot.

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Got the slot out available?

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Yes.

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All that is in the pool and when they're all bound.

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They went for Viper.

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This is, I think at this point, I'm just a Viper guy.

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Yeah, seriously.

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I'm the Viper.

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If I wanna be the Viper.

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I'm switching you out on the panel. The difference is South American rejects will play it on off-lane. They're like Falcons

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It's actually been

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Frank that is playing this and maybe yes, maybe that's the reason they did this here is because

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heroic maybe exposed in the first two games that

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Dark Mago cannot play against Viper mid with his hero pool

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Other than maybe like Queen of Pain, so they pick it to block it from being picked against Dark Mago

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Yeah, because they also heroic bandit against them. Yeah, if you remember. Yes

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I knew about that which was also strange when they played the South American rejects

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Frank is also a player that I is kind of being overshadowed on South American

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rejects right now because of Schofield and Dark Magar such classic like South

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American players they do really funny shit wits is the new you know young

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looks like he's going to be an amazing player prodigy but Frank in that axe

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game straight up 1v5 with a specialty hero so you have to look at this guy

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heroic was banning his night stalker in his enigma in the last phase every

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single game even when it was obvious what the offlaner was they were still

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that afraid of the the Frank heroes wait this is this is the repeat of

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Heroics line up. They're doing the heroic now. They're doing the heroic side. Just to rub it in it's not content

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Eliminating them from the tournament. They're gonna take their draft and beat liquid with it. That's their thought

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Well, they usually next it would be ruby, but it's already taken. Yes

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So they do have a beast master on liquid. Nisha plays that but also ace plays that a lot

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He likes the status here's the helm of Dom

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You know take over the take over the lane with the dumb creep starts

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So you are right conceptually as well we are because the heroic draft had the double save

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behind the vapor.

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And they still have a lot of save now.

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Yeah.

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So they're doing the heroic but would like I think Rubik takes the cake when it comes

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to ringmaster.

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Oh yeah yeah.

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I think Rubik is definitely a winner.

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Easily the better hero.

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Park is out.

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There's still a queen in the pool.

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This could have been a setup for an 18 queen for Dark Magoo.

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I think he's played very well on this hero.

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Laning is as you've mentioned before a couple of times he plays the best when he's on Queen

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All lane and I guess the player like Nisha

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You kind of have to play one of your best laners because this guy does not give you room to breathe and and puck is out

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And like if if liquid wanted to pick Ember here, for example, then you're risking

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Putting Ember versus Viper if they just ran for the and put the Viper mid

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Which now as the draft has progressed the Viper first pick makes more sense because of what it's kind of blocking out from

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Nisha's potential hero pool, but he must know that Mogad doesn't really play Viper, right? I

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Do assume every time I play a game of Dora that the mid laner enemy player plays all the heroes as you should

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But sometimes you just know in professional Dora, especially when you have all this information past games

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maybe you even talked to some of his teammates, you know, on a land, you kind of know that he just

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doesn't do well on certain heroes. And I think Viper is that hero for Dark Mago. I feel like there's

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a very low chance of seeing him play this hero. So it's not necessarily a niche block, more than

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probably just stopping Liquid from picking it themselves, because they do understand that

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Heroic saw a weakness there, right? Yeah, they did. They did Viper against South American

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And it looked like it looked like a weekend. I mean this for Dark Mago

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He's kept feeding on mid lane. He gave first blood both games and

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Taking the pango now so two heroes that could be flexed mid or off lane which depending on what?

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South American rejects pick because we saw the Viper into pango matchup twice

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in the heroics

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This is where this is where they're baiting in line. Yeah, they're baiting Dark Mago to go

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I just got destroyed by this. I'm taking Viper mid

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and then it's just not the same because you're not tai long it could be this is all mine games in the end

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is coach versus coach captain versus captain always doing these type of weird things

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but it's enjoyable to watch i also think once you get out of the lane i just think pango's

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generally good in or viper because he's so immobile and you just get enrolled at you know

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i feel like pango is generally good throughout the entire game i guess my bra i don't think

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He should have such a struggle on the lane as Dark Mago did.

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I did see the lane, it was mostly again like no one today, he didn't get a good block.

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The wave was on the enemy hill and stuff like that really hurts and impacts the game.

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But Viper has very low armor, so Pango should in theory deal very well with the Viper just by spamming Swashbubble.

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And they pull out the Kunkka.

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So it is a Frank Viper.

03:15:30.620 --> 03:15:38.940
And an off-lane like effectively mid hero, right, like these death profits and vipers in the off-lane,

03:15:38.940 --> 03:15:45.580
you're just playing a mid in the off-lane, just a tanky mid. Having effectively an off-lane or mid

03:15:45.580 --> 03:15:49.820
in the Kunkka is what you always want, a guy that can just run in in front line so you can be

03:15:49.820 --> 03:15:55.340
like the pseudo front-liner on the off-lane. So this honestly makes a lot of sense.

03:15:55.340 --> 03:15:59.820
But you said yesterday, Andrew, you said as well that you've seen Dark Mago, you've run

03:15:59.820 --> 03:16:05.500
in the Dark Mago's Kunkka like time and time again. They're just a real speciality for him.

03:16:05.500 --> 03:16:12.780
Yeah, he'll pick it on patches where it's bad. But I am a firm believer that if somebody is winning

03:16:12.780 --> 03:16:19.420
with something on a Dota patch, it is not just them. It is good. They have figured out about

03:16:19.420 --> 03:16:23.820
the hero that other people will. So I do believe if Dark Mago's winning with Kunkka, that it's

03:16:23.820 --> 03:16:27.100
good. There's something here that is to be looked at. People just need to analyze the

03:16:27.100 --> 03:16:30.760
the replays and figure it out. Maybe it's how South American rejects are also drafting

03:16:30.760 --> 03:16:34.500
because Frank likes to play like the Rangers in the offline, so it makes sense for them,

03:16:34.500 --> 03:16:38.100
but there is something here. He's amazing at it, but he's ahead of the curve.

03:16:38.100 --> 03:16:42.100
Yeah, for sure. And I don't know why they don't respect this Kunka. Like they have this

03:16:42.100 --> 03:16:47.620
Beastmaster pangol. Obviously it's going to be both of them on position 2 and 3, right?

03:16:47.620 --> 03:16:52.380
They can switch between it's effects. But having Kunka for the Dark Magal kind

03:16:52.380 --> 03:16:58.220
like denies Beastmaster from going mid lane and Pango on the off lane it's kind of like whatever

03:16:58.220 --> 03:17:03.020
hero is good to have him in the game but on lane he's not he doesn't do that much right so they

03:17:03.020 --> 03:17:09.740
basically kind of like locking themselves into I think bad lanes not necessarily the worst but

03:17:09.740 --> 03:17:16.220
not what you want right yeah yeah like you can do good against the pango as well I think it's

03:17:16.220 --> 03:17:21.820
good in general against pango in the game because of the X mark um yeah until pango gets

03:17:21.820 --> 03:17:28.420
Charlotte of course. Yeah it definitely makes things really difficult but there's

03:17:28.420 --> 03:17:32.940
also this factor of like when a hero's out of meta for so long and a team starts

03:17:32.940 --> 03:17:38.260
picking it people don't have the read like that instinct on how to play against

03:17:38.260 --> 03:17:41.540
it. Kunkka is definitely one of those sorts of heroes where like if you try to

03:17:41.540 --> 03:17:45.340
go on him and he gets the rumbuff and he you know gives the boat buff a lot

03:17:45.340 --> 03:17:48.620
of the times where you're expecting to like burst somebody with roar burst

03:17:48.620 --> 03:17:53.900
somebody with pango roll just doesn't happen you know and a nice a tiny to round

03:17:53.900 --> 03:17:58.340
out the draft this is a life for a band this is a really good draft and yeah

03:17:58.340 --> 03:18:01.940
like you said their response from the lifestealer is not gonna come out and

03:18:01.940 --> 03:18:06.140
overall super solid tiny does not mind playing his beast or pango on the on

03:18:06.140 --> 03:18:12.420
the on the safe lane so he's gonna have a great time I think I think team

03:18:12.420 --> 03:18:19.260
liquid disrespecting this kunkka might end up biting them in the ass but South

03:18:19.260 --> 03:18:23.460
America really is so random as well all the time all the things that played

03:18:23.460 --> 03:18:27.860
who's hero is this coming up are we sure this is probably gonna be the carrier

03:18:27.860 --> 03:18:30.860
it's gonna be a make it you know unless you play some you don't put master

03:18:30.860 --> 03:18:36.100
seed house comes I've seen Mickey play beast he does yeah they could but

03:18:36.100 --> 03:18:40.980
beast beast against Viper and safe lane it's not that bad because Viper

03:18:40.980 --> 03:18:46.900
cannot really deal with the boards. Yeah. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Okay. Yeah. There

03:18:46.900 --> 03:18:51.980
it is. It's Queen of Pain. Good call. Interalca. Kunkka generally do it against Queen.

03:18:51.980 --> 03:18:58.180
Throughout the three of them. Oh, that's Mickey, Queen of Pain. It's a safe lane

03:18:58.180 --> 03:19:05.020
co-op. Oh, and they're putting the box against the Kunkka. Oh, oh wow. Okay. So they chose

03:19:05.020 --> 03:19:08.580
to pull Queen against Viper. It's not the worst.

03:19:08.580 --> 03:19:11.220
Yeah, just what?

03:19:11.220 --> 03:19:16.540
Honestly, this game is not for grabs. For me, Liquid haven't lost a single series except

03:19:16.540 --> 03:19:22.180
against DB here two times, so they definitely look like they're coming in stronger. But

03:19:22.180 --> 03:19:27.460
Sata making rejects, they have this very strong lineup. I love the counter matchups,

03:19:27.460 --> 03:19:31.380
like Liquid kind of counter themselves, put themselves in this position, and they

03:19:31.380 --> 03:19:39.220
can always be these like good teams so anyone can take it it's so hard to tell

03:19:39.220 --> 03:19:43.740
actually I always say this when liquid does a draft like this they do this very

03:19:43.740 --> 03:19:48.740
special thing there they pick themselves into what looks like counters but in

03:19:48.740 --> 03:19:52.740
reality there's some combined power spike that they see they gives them like a

03:19:52.740 --> 03:19:56.700
three-minute window to win the game and they just say we are so good at

03:19:56.700 --> 03:20:00.620
playing to that spike that even though we have counters and if we go late we

03:20:00.620 --> 03:20:04.860
lose. We're going to beat you in that window. And I find that so interesting. I think it's

03:20:04.860 --> 03:20:09.660
so cool that they've stuck to that over the years. It's what won them TI. It's a very

03:20:09.660 --> 03:20:15.580
cool draft. If they make any mistakes, I totally agree. I think there's a lot of counter matchups

03:20:15.580 --> 03:20:21.380
here from SAR, like Tiny versus Queen. We just saw that. It's terrible for Queen. We

03:20:21.380 --> 03:20:24.700
saw the stats. It's terrible for Queen if it goes late.

03:20:24.700 --> 03:20:28.580
All right. Well, we can get some insight into that draft. I believe the slacks

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is with blitz right now

03:20:31.260 --> 03:20:34.660
absolutely thank you so much richard lewis i'm here with blitz dota who was

03:20:34.660 --> 03:20:37.580
laughing he he's coming out of this booth he's gonna beat

03:20:37.580 --> 03:20:40.940
the peruvian rejects and he's fucking laughing about it

03:20:40.940 --> 03:20:44.420
you know the quap carry i need you to talk about this you think this is funny

03:20:44.420 --> 03:20:46.100
though why would you do that

03:20:46.100 --> 03:20:48.980
first of all there's only six teams left in this tournament you immediately

03:20:48.980 --> 03:20:53.100
got their team name wrong it's south american rejects not peruvian rejects

03:20:53.100 --> 03:20:55.060
so that's kind of sad

03:20:55.060 --> 03:20:59.060
like a nice deflection. Okay. I watched a lot of debates. All right. What you're doing

03:20:59.060 --> 03:21:04.540
right now is called grandstanding corn cobbing. You should at least get your name right in

03:21:04.540 --> 03:21:07.740
the tournament. There's the South American rejects. They used to be the Peruvian rejects

03:21:07.740 --> 03:21:12.420
who used to be paying gaming. It's true. They had a interview where they said they,

03:21:12.420 --> 03:21:15.700
although being all Peruvians, they want to represent the region as the South American

03:21:15.700 --> 03:21:18.980
rejects. And I was giving them homage. I was giving them homage. And you think

03:21:18.980 --> 03:21:23.460
that you're so cool and you're not. Why did you pick quap carry? Pernaus

03:21:23.460 --> 03:21:28.980
homage I think it's homage but I would think it's homage but we don't say that

03:21:28.980 --> 03:21:34.740
on broadcast we have to say homage okay why did you pick quap carry is a good

03:21:34.740 --> 03:21:37.380
hero and it's pretty good against these heroes I think it's good against tiny I

03:21:37.380 --> 03:21:40.500
think it's good against conca like a lot of melee and it's like one of the few

03:21:40.500 --> 03:21:43.780
heroes I think that in a in a sideline situation should lane against

03:21:43.780 --> 03:21:47.540
viper okay okay you think that he's just gonna spit on that thing and

03:21:47.540 --> 03:21:52.820
she's gonna be alright yeah I think he's gonna spit on that thing all

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Alright, last question for you. If you had to say that Mickey was one of the characters in Slay the Spire 2, who do you think he most likely refers to? I know that you play this all the time. In fact, while you were drafting, I checked on Steam and it actually was open on your phone. You were playing it during the draft, so who would you say that is?

03:22:08.820 --> 03:22:10.820
It's not on phone yet.

03:22:10.820 --> 03:22:12.820
Slay the Spire 1 you were playing.

03:22:12.820 --> 03:22:20.820
Okay, I think he would be Ironclad.

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Well, I think that you should be the silent as we end this interview and get in this cursed

03:22:25.940 --> 03:22:29.080
ass game over to you.

03:22:29.080 --> 03:22:32.340
What a defect of an interview that was.

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Welcome everybody to game one of Liquid's first South American Rejects, not to be confused

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with Peruvian Rejects, not to be confused with pain gaming of course.

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Yeah.

03:22:45.180 --> 03:22:46.620
Thank you so much for the history lesson.

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We really appreciate it.

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Shout out to Slay the Spy.

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As we get in here, so yeah, Queen of Pain position 1, that's weird.

03:22:56.260 --> 03:22:57.060
Really weird.

03:22:58.340 --> 03:23:04.100
Yeah, I was really surprised by this pick. Blood's had his reasons, but I kind of feel like the

03:23:04.100 --> 03:23:08.260
Viper lane matchup is all right in the offline interquap. I think this is going to be okay,

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and it's also, you know, Frank is undefeated on the zero, so clearly very comfortable.

03:23:11.700 --> 03:23:22.340
I would say this is the series today that is on paper maybe the most one-sided in terms

03:23:22.340 --> 03:23:23.340
of team strength.

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I think Liquid have looked very good and yes they did lose 2-1 to Betboom yesterday but

03:23:27.300 --> 03:23:31.460
they also look like potentially the team to beat.

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So you take that into account.

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I'm with Weha on the draft.

03:23:34.820 --> 03:23:38.060
I think they did a really good job on the dire line of finding good solutions here

03:23:38.060 --> 03:23:40.900
from the rejects to certain problems that Liquid are proposing.

03:23:40.900 --> 03:23:45.660
it's still a lineup of just like almost exclusively S tier heroes in the patch that Liquid have

03:23:45.660 --> 03:23:50.980
got for themselves. So, counters are one thing. Step number one, now you need to execute because

03:23:50.980 --> 03:23:53.940
the heroes can carry their own weight if they're not behind.

03:23:53.940 --> 03:23:57.580
Triton, very well said. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Jynx.

03:23:57.580 --> 03:23:58.580
Thank you.

03:23:58.580 --> 03:23:59.580
You owe me a soda.

03:23:59.580 --> 03:24:00.580
No, I don't.

03:24:00.580 --> 03:24:01.580
Yes, I said Jynx.

03:24:01.580 --> 03:24:04.180
Yeah, but we didn't say the same thing, so you owe me a soda.

03:24:04.180 --> 03:24:05.180
What do you mean?

03:24:05.180 --> 03:24:08.820
You owe me a soda. You also own me. You own me a soda.

03:24:08.820 --> 03:24:11.820
Very good. Thank you for that transition. I really appreciate that.

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Yeah, we'll see. Micae, I mean, one thing we've talked about time and time again is the late game on Queen of Pain is absurdly strong, unless there's a Rubik in the game. There is a Rubik in the game, but it's on their own team.

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Yeah, imagine if Rubik X allowed you to spell steal your ally spells.

03:24:26.820 --> 03:24:32.820
Yeah, yeah. I mean, wasn't Morphling like that at a certain point?

03:24:32.820 --> 03:24:36.820
Yeah, you could turn into, well, you could turn into...

03:24:36.820 --> 03:24:38.620
Can't get the ult, but...

03:24:38.620 --> 03:24:40.820
You could turn into, exactly. You could turn into an ally with X.

03:24:40.820 --> 03:24:44.620
That's why we played Morph Shaker all the time. Great. Very good time for Dota.

03:24:44.620 --> 03:24:45.820
We missed those days.

03:24:45.820 --> 03:24:47.620
Ah, fantastic stuff.

03:24:47.620 --> 03:24:52.220
Yeah, Morphling Carablade. Glad to not see them played very often now.

03:24:52.220 --> 03:24:55.220
Could take a couple of years off, I think.

03:24:55.220 --> 03:24:57.220
Same with Tinker.

03:24:57.220 --> 03:25:00.820
Yeah, I'm so glad we get to see Viper every second game, though. That's very good.

03:25:00.820 --> 03:25:02.420
And Vifers is fine.

03:25:02.420 --> 03:25:06.420
If Tofu is going to try to challenge the Lotus, he will fail.

03:25:06.420 --> 03:25:08.220
Now he might actually be run down.

03:25:08.220 --> 03:25:09.420
They have the snowball going off.

03:25:09.420 --> 03:25:11.920
He will dive pre-getting hit by the snowball.

03:25:11.920 --> 03:25:14.420
I think that's just a mistake potentially.

03:25:14.420 --> 03:25:17.420
TP got canceled and yes.

03:25:17.420 --> 03:25:18.620
First blood.

03:25:18.620 --> 03:25:19.920
There will be a trade.

03:25:19.920 --> 03:25:20.720
Or will there?

03:25:20.720 --> 03:25:22.420
Scofield in the cover of the trees.

03:25:22.420 --> 03:25:23.920
Mickey really wants to finish the job.

03:25:23.920 --> 03:25:25.720
We'll have to blink out though.

03:25:25.720 --> 03:25:27.320
That just felt like a mistake from Tofu.

03:25:27.320 --> 03:25:30.420
Just let the snowball hit and then dive after.

03:25:30.420 --> 03:25:34.900
But don't away, they still connect and it's going to cost them.

03:25:34.900 --> 03:25:40.660
Good start here for Frank, that Kill was needed to equalize the lane against Queen.

03:25:40.660 --> 03:25:44.660
Yeah, we will get to see Nisha on Beastmaster against Conka.

03:25:44.660 --> 03:25:49.300
So we've seen the offline Conka UNI specifically, not the med yet.

03:25:49.300 --> 03:25:55.780
Not sure how I feel about Conka right now, feels meh in general, I'll be honest.

03:25:55.780 --> 03:25:59.700
I think it's pretty decent, not like overwhelmingly good, but it's got a place.

03:25:59.700 --> 03:26:05.240
Obviously very good against melee heroes so should be I would assume just a trade of farm between the two

03:26:05.240 --> 03:26:07.120
And this is this will be the true test

03:26:07.120 --> 03:26:09.840
I don't think we've cast a game where Beastmaster didn't win its lane

03:26:09.840 --> 03:26:15.440
Is this the one is this the one that Beastmaster can actually lose this is an old conca, you know

03:26:16.080 --> 03:26:19.760
Like you can withstand tie-bringers now. We'll see I

03:26:20.920 --> 03:26:25.920
Mean Dark Mago has had a very good tournament so far especially on feel like Queen of Pain

03:26:25.920 --> 03:26:28.200
It's been his signature this this tournament

03:26:28.680 --> 03:26:33.800
Not getting it this time. No, they're choosing not to get it. It was available for the longest time, but there was Rubik

03:26:34.260 --> 03:26:39.380
Might have been the reason you didn't want to pick it. So if we're going for the kill on the school field with those fire spirits

03:26:40.000 --> 03:26:42.480
Still needs a couple more right clicks. It'll take a while

03:26:43.680 --> 03:26:47.620
School field could potentially just deny himself to creeps or just run in a straight line

03:26:47.880 --> 03:26:52.140
And he'll get away. He can TP now. He'll be alive, but he's trying to waste some more time

03:26:52.140 --> 03:26:56.980
I guess. Yeah, he's doing a good job. There's a courier. Oh come on man. Can't be baited. Come on man

03:26:56.980 --> 03:27:03.780
You got to get the wraparound into the bounty room. Nice. Yank. Yeah, good. Talk about a Skowfield sequence. Absolutely. That is

03:27:04.500 --> 03:27:07.520
You show me that clip and you ask me which pro player do you think did this?

03:27:08.860 --> 03:27:10.860
It's my first guess.

03:27:12.020 --> 03:27:17.580
Took the Phoenix, took the bird for a walk. No leash. Space created. Yep

03:27:18.780 --> 03:27:21.540
So Ace is playing the Offlane Pangolier

03:27:22.140 --> 03:27:28.460
We are going to see the tiny for wits so carry tiny again has looked very strong

03:27:28.460 --> 03:27:32.620
in basically every single game there's not I mean last game we last series

03:27:32.620 --> 03:27:37.540
rather Necro thought might be a pretty good counter in theory but unfortunately

03:27:37.540 --> 03:27:42.300
for the Necro it was also countered by the doom which was left alone. I thought

03:27:42.300 --> 03:27:46.500
maybe Liquid were going to last pick Necro in this game actually looking

03:27:46.500 --> 03:27:50.580
out their heroes and the opposing team I think again the tiny matchup

03:27:50.580 --> 03:27:55.580
could have been good. I think Necro is. The Viper can be tricky. I guess that was the main concern

03:27:55.580 --> 03:27:59.580
was that they were worried about their safe lane. I also don't know if Mika likes Necro.

03:27:59.580 --> 03:28:06.580
Another problem. Skofield, nice Torrent timing there on Nisha's TP instantly sent flying.

03:28:06.580 --> 03:28:11.580
And I want to go for the high ground. Gets the roar off, blocked off by the shards.

03:28:11.580 --> 03:28:16.580
Skofield making so much space. The boat coming in now from Darvago with the X sets it up on Tanisha

03:28:16.580 --> 03:28:21.100
But reinforcements for liquid are here so they have to be a big careful to blink him from Mickey

03:28:21.100 --> 03:28:26.300
And he does not have sonic wave yet still level five and a lot of damage being applied both sides

03:28:26.300 --> 03:28:31.220
There's the sonic wave with that kill getting the XP and dark mongo dies as a result

03:28:31.340 --> 03:28:36.060
He was almost certainly gonna get the kill on the niche. We had a level up at the last moment

03:28:36.980 --> 03:28:38.620
perfect

03:28:38.620 --> 03:28:43.580
A really good rotation as well see peeing is level five crop there is not obvious, but

03:28:43.580 --> 03:28:49.400
but finds the move, gets the reward, and a 3 for nothing exchange, Mickey easily at the

03:28:49.400 --> 03:28:51.780
top of the charts still.

03:28:51.780 --> 03:28:56.740
Despite of questions we might have had about the Viper matchup, it did go into favor of

03:28:56.740 --> 03:28:57.740
Queen.

03:28:57.740 --> 03:28:58.740
Oh, cool down on Blink.

03:28:58.740 --> 03:29:09.140
Big damage, you'll live, but this is, okay, he's got a salve.

03:29:09.140 --> 03:29:11.340
Frank the tank, playing the Viper.

03:29:11.340 --> 03:29:14.900
damage on the tower here. You might actually almost get it. The Siege creep they've got

03:29:14.900 --> 03:29:19.380
and we shoot down here. Like Frank also having a very good tournament and very impressed with

03:29:19.380 --> 03:29:24.500
his play overall. He is my, I think he has been the most improved player on this team.

03:29:24.500 --> 03:29:27.940
He's been the most consistent on their team for sure. I just think he's played really

03:29:27.940 --> 03:29:33.860
well and he's a player who I would say has had ups and downs in the last couple

03:29:33.860 --> 03:29:36.740
of years. I think there are phases and patches that just suit him really well

03:29:36.740 --> 03:29:41.220
on others where it's like it's not exactly you know up to up to snuff with the likes of

03:29:41.220 --> 03:29:46.820
whisper etc but I'd say in this tournament he's looked really really good in particular

03:29:46.820 --> 03:29:52.420
he had a pop-off game on axe that I thought was very impressive um and yeah he plays

03:29:52.420 --> 03:29:56.340
a pretty wide variety of heroes he can play the initiators he can play the tanky boys

03:29:56.340 --> 03:30:02.940
like viper so quite the arsenal too always great a great asset to have either you want

03:30:02.940 --> 03:30:09.100
some really hardcore specialist that plays one style very very well so that you can almost

03:30:09.100 --> 03:30:12.940
brute force it even when it's not meta or you want a guy who's all round. I feel like

03:30:12.940 --> 03:30:14.140
Frank is just that.

03:30:14.140 --> 03:30:21.540
Ace going for the mage slayer here against the likes of Viper.

03:30:21.540 --> 03:30:22.540
Yeah.

03:30:22.540 --> 03:30:27.140
It's also decent against Konka. Quite a lot of spell damage.

03:30:27.140 --> 03:30:35.300
What is what do you want to see on Dark Mago's Kanka? He's my first item BKB.

03:30:35.300 --> 03:30:43.580
Yeah. I think it's a... I think that is the problem that I have with this hero is

03:30:43.580 --> 03:30:48.060
itemization. Yeah. To me very underwhelming it doesn't I never know

03:30:48.060 --> 03:30:52.260
what would be good. Yeah it's one of the hardest heroes to buy the correct

03:30:52.260 --> 03:30:58.660
items on. Also because not only is it hard to identify what type of game it is, but the

03:30:58.660 --> 03:31:02.420
cost of making a mistake in your itemization is really severe on this hero. I don't know

03:31:02.420 --> 03:31:05.700
how this happened by the way, he just cleaved the ancients and one of the creeps just didn't

03:31:05.700 --> 03:31:13.580
move. So he didn't stack. Okay, unlucky. Sometimes the game works against you.

03:31:13.580 --> 03:31:16.500
He hit him so hard he gave the creep a concussion.

03:31:16.500 --> 03:31:19.500
Yup. That's a hidden patch.

03:31:19.500 --> 03:31:23.500
I would argue that the Ancient Frostbin Golem doesn't really have anything to...

03:31:23.500 --> 03:31:24.500
Concuss?

03:31:24.500 --> 03:31:26.500
Yeah, there's not much in there.

03:31:30.500 --> 03:31:34.500
I mean, first item, BKB, is an interesting one, though. That means they're going to want to fight right away.

03:31:34.500 --> 03:31:35.500
Yeah.

03:31:35.500 --> 03:31:38.500
And, I mean, obviously very good against the Pango.

03:31:38.500 --> 03:31:41.500
Nisha looking for Wits. Not going to roar yet.

03:31:41.500 --> 03:31:43.500
No, because TP's are on comment.

03:31:43.500 --> 03:31:46.500
Now the delay tack, it actually gets off...

03:31:46.500 --> 03:31:48.500
Actually, a lot of TP. Is this all five?

03:31:48.500 --> 03:31:54.500
Rainbow TPs and they're out. That is really nicely played from liquid. First of all to

03:31:54.780 --> 03:31:59.920
pump fake the roar and get this rotation, but also completely disengaging. That's a really big win.

03:31:59.920 --> 03:32:05.700
That's like a one-kick old swing, right? It's like three TPs out the window. It's lost farm. It's bad movement.

03:32:06.840 --> 03:32:13.240
Well, we haven't really talked about this yet, but look at the support levels. This is criminal. Tusk is level three.

03:32:13.240 --> 03:32:19.300
Wow, Skowfield has nothing the end every other support in the game is sex space created

03:32:19.300 --> 03:32:24.300
So there's nothing space created for everyone else to get extra including the enemy team

03:32:24.300 --> 03:32:25.800
So it's not really

03:32:25.800 --> 03:32:31.200
Not really the best. He's gonna be struggling to find impact here on Skowfield as much as we love his

03:32:32.120 --> 03:32:34.680
Kiting antics. He was very much paid the price

03:32:36.000 --> 03:32:38.000
From liquid

03:32:38.000 --> 03:32:50.000
Recipient, there's a sonic wave, hitting Skowfield, can't get it there in time with the snowball save, Frank dead, and a nice steal, easy steal for Ekky by first strike.

03:32:50.000 --> 03:32:57.000
You can just see the sequencing how valuable it is with Liquid are pulling off. They force three heroes top, they get away, and then they make the move bottom.

03:32:57.000 --> 03:33:04.000
And then they know, well if we go on Frank, the only hero that can protect him is whoever is in the fog, and that's probably not going to be enough.

03:33:04.000 --> 03:33:09.000
Which was indeed the case. It was just the poor level 3 tusk who had no play.

03:33:11.000 --> 03:33:18.000
Just so far in my eyes just an outclass in the first 11 minutes here. Better movement, better laning.

03:33:19.000 --> 03:33:24.000
Had a great response to the one mid move that the Rejects tried to pull on them did not work.

03:33:26.000 --> 03:33:30.000
So 3K lead already. Top tower is going to go down so they also match here.

03:33:30.000 --> 03:33:33.020
also match here this was the one advantage rejects had was taking the

03:33:33.020 --> 03:33:34.800
bot tower early

03:33:34.800 --> 03:33:36.880
but we're gonna equalize this

03:33:36.880 --> 03:33:40.220
in addition to everything else now ace

03:33:40.220 --> 03:33:42.920
when it comes to farming offline players he's one of the best

03:33:42.920 --> 03:33:46.460
oh yeah you have a free game this guy's gonna get rich and nobody stopping him

03:33:46.460 --> 03:33:50.440
he's out farmed the tiny by over a thousand fifteen hundred head of tiny on

03:33:50.440 --> 03:33:54.100
mango that's pretty crazy how's that even possible

03:33:54.100 --> 03:33:58.560
and now he's finally gonna get some moves going so has the match player point booster into his

03:33:58.560 --> 03:34:04.620
This is a great move if it connects too.

03:34:04.620 --> 03:34:09.620
They don't want Scofield, he's worth a creep level of gold.

03:34:09.620 --> 03:34:11.140
Not a very valuable target.

03:34:11.140 --> 03:34:16.060
They would love to collapse on the mid tower.

03:34:16.060 --> 03:34:19.700
This would be a big one.

03:34:19.700 --> 03:34:22.220
Into the jungle he goes.

03:34:22.220 --> 03:34:26.660
Could play from Wits to wipe the wave out.

03:34:26.660 --> 03:34:30.260
This is quite deep, and TP's already again now, they're just going to get to side against it.

03:34:30.260 --> 03:34:31.260
This isn't worth it.

03:34:31.260 --> 03:34:33.780
Good positioning, and the scan comes out as well.

03:34:33.780 --> 03:34:36.060
Nicely done.

03:34:36.060 --> 03:34:37.060
Wheel of Wonder.

03:34:37.060 --> 03:34:41.140
Wheel of Wonder, what could have been if it hit?

03:34:41.140 --> 03:34:42.140
Let's see that unicycle.

03:34:42.140 --> 03:34:47.060
Okay, wait, so they used Wheel of Wonder and Ghost Ship, and he barely took damage on

03:34:47.060 --> 03:34:48.060
QWOP.

03:34:48.060 --> 03:34:53.660
It must have just blundered their spell casting completely against Miike there.

03:34:53.660 --> 03:35:00.860
Unfortunate as the rejects kind of are starting to approach a point where they kind of desperately need something to go right

03:35:00.860 --> 03:35:02.760
You're just getting out farmed

03:35:02.760 --> 03:35:08.180
They don't really have any initiation. It's kind of the issue. That's what happens when you put a viper in the off lane

03:35:08.180 --> 03:35:12.000
Yeah, Kunkka is meant to play that role, but hasn't found the

03:35:12.500 --> 03:35:17.300
There is BKB first like we said and then Tusk can play that role to a degree, but we talked about his levels

03:35:17.300 --> 03:35:26.660
Look at those stack counters, 6-13. This is why Pango is so rich. So many stacks being

03:35:26.660 --> 03:35:32.500
made in the top half of the map. Finally, Dark Mago will get something here, but I kind

03:35:32.500 --> 03:35:37.780
of just feel like... As far as South America Rejects goes, I don't think we've ever seen

03:35:37.780 --> 03:35:43.820
them have 1 kill minute 13 in this tournament. Just not really finding anything, any moments

03:35:43.820 --> 03:35:44.820
of opportunity.

03:35:44.820 --> 03:35:52.780
Yeah, Nisha only 400 from Ag, so he's going to start spiraling out of control if left

03:35:52.780 --> 03:35:53.780
unattended.

03:35:53.780 --> 03:35:59.100
It was like liquid just getting everything, 5k lead, just continuing to grow.

03:35:59.100 --> 03:36:00.100
Yep.

03:36:00.100 --> 03:36:03.180
I mean, Ace is going to have Ags at like 17 minutes.

03:36:03.180 --> 03:36:04.900
That's insane timing.

03:36:04.900 --> 03:36:08.300
And I think something that's worth looking out for when it comes to Kunkka, this

03:36:08.300 --> 03:36:11.700
hero falls flat against BKB.

03:36:11.700 --> 03:36:13.580
Pango already has roll.

03:36:13.580 --> 03:36:17.740
He's a very hard hero for Kunkka to ever go on, because you just roll up with the shard

03:36:17.740 --> 03:36:22.480
or with your ulti, so he's a tough target to kill with the Kunkka and catch.

03:36:22.480 --> 03:36:26.600
The Beastmaster is very tanky and can stand his ground and will buy BKB, then he's not

03:36:26.600 --> 03:36:28.840
going to be a valid target either.

03:36:28.840 --> 03:36:32.880
The supports are going to be playing super far back, there's no initiating support on

03:36:32.880 --> 03:36:35.440
Liquid, they're just going to have formation.

03:36:35.440 --> 03:36:41.960
So as much as I like Kunkka as a hero, I feel like not to be too pessimistic

03:36:41.960 --> 03:36:42.960
about it.

03:36:42.960 --> 03:36:48.680
already missed in the game I mean you know my I don't see the value of this

03:36:48.680 --> 03:36:53.760
hero right now and I just I think the win rate of it was good in the off lane

03:36:53.760 --> 03:36:57.800
but kind of man I don't care what the stats say okay you can win with a dud well

03:36:57.800 --> 03:37:02.400
I was just I was just supporting you but it's fine I don't want to shut it down

03:37:02.400 --> 03:37:06.760
you just shut you're saying 70% win rate but it's on off lane he's 2 and

03:37:06.760 --> 03:37:08.760
I believe

03:37:10.160 --> 03:37:13.440
Yep, 70% 7 and 3 trash hero confirmed

03:37:14.160 --> 03:37:19.560
Sun's Fen TV BKB now up. Let's see what value Dark Mago can get. I mean

03:37:20.400 --> 03:37:22.240
There's a lot of piercing

03:37:22.240 --> 03:37:26.040
Things on liquid. I have to say I mean egg obviously not gonna be the most consistent

03:37:26.040 --> 03:37:28.560
But you have roar spell steal sonic wave

03:37:29.160 --> 03:37:30.760
Four out of the five

03:37:30.760 --> 03:37:34.640
Go through BKB and a lot of the time is actually quite easy to steal ghost ship

03:37:34.640 --> 03:37:46.640
If you're in position, Kunkus animations have a long enough duration that if you're anticipating this spell cast, you can pretty consistently get it as Rubik, and Ghost Ship is an incredible steal.

03:37:47.640 --> 03:37:56.640
The dire lineup does burst heroes immediately with anything else than Tiny, so you're going to get value out of the Rumbuk, Dark Moggo.

03:37:56.640 --> 03:37:59.440
Dark Moggo. Yes, he's going to use the B.

03:37:59.440 --> 03:38:00.940
That's a stolen Torrent.

03:38:00.940 --> 03:38:06.780
You can see that they're just, they're just putting, they're putting very clever pressure.

03:38:06.780 --> 03:38:11.240
It's just, they don't even need to kill them. They're just forcing them to play defensive,

03:38:11.240 --> 03:38:14.920
they're forcing them to use their items for nothing, and in the meantime just farming

03:38:14.920 --> 03:38:20.320
them map better. That was a lot of justs, but they are making it look easy. So, why

03:38:20.320 --> 03:38:29.900
why not? 6k with 4 kills, something feels wrong about this, when you look at it, this

03:38:29.900 --> 03:38:30.900
shouldn't happen.

03:38:30.900 --> 03:38:35.080
And the power spikes are coming still. Ace, we talked about the axe, he's about to grab

03:38:35.080 --> 03:38:36.080
it.

03:38:36.080 --> 03:38:37.080
So far.

03:38:37.080 --> 03:38:45.840
Nisha of course has his axe, only 300 from Blink. And Mikkei, is this the Bloodstone

03:38:45.840 --> 03:38:52.200
right away looks like it yeah and I mean he's only a thousand this is an

03:38:52.200 --> 03:38:57.080
incredible power spike between three cores at roughly the same time this is

03:38:57.080 --> 03:39:01.640
gonna be dirty for liquid this is what Jenkins was talking about that liquid

03:39:01.640 --> 03:39:04.800
does so well as a team is they draft into what you would consider counter

03:39:04.800 --> 03:39:07.960
matchups and they rely on their individual skill and they find the

03:39:07.960 --> 03:39:11.280
moment of opportunity that they are strong and then they fight I would say

03:39:11.280 --> 03:39:15.160
this game is even easier than that because you know they haven't really

03:39:15.160 --> 03:39:18.800
They have to struggle with any sort of pressure coming their way.

03:39:18.800 --> 03:39:24.340
And this was criticism we had about Reject in some of their series that we cast, or some

03:39:24.340 --> 03:39:28.280
of the games that we cast, where they just resort to farming.

03:39:28.280 --> 03:39:32.480
They have a lineup here that I think needs to activate itself and not really finding

03:39:32.480 --> 03:39:33.480
any opportunities.

03:39:33.480 --> 03:39:34.480
Yeah.

03:39:34.480 --> 03:39:38.720
They get the roar from Nisha into the kill on El Nisha.

03:39:38.720 --> 03:39:40.200
That's a good steal for Rubik.

03:39:40.200 --> 03:39:41.520
Get the tier one as well.

03:39:41.520 --> 03:39:43.040
They have the knives for Ekki.

03:39:43.040 --> 03:39:44.640
No, you're right though.

03:39:44.640 --> 03:39:48.600
at the core specifically for South American Rejects, one of them you're like, okay, this

03:39:48.600 --> 03:39:52.040
guy can perform this time, the other two, they have to be involved, it's the whole point

03:39:52.040 --> 03:39:53.040
of the heroes.

03:39:53.040 --> 03:39:54.040
Yeah.

03:39:54.040 --> 03:39:58.720
No, this is, I think uninspiring is the best way to put it, watching this.

03:39:58.720 --> 03:40:00.280
We've seen them fall flat like this.

03:40:00.280 --> 03:40:01.280
Yeah.

03:40:01.280 --> 03:40:05.360
And it's, it ends up being a long drawn out, same conclusion game.

03:40:05.360 --> 03:40:06.360
Yeah.

03:40:06.360 --> 03:40:09.160
And it's worrying because this, if this is what you're bringing to the table in

03:40:09.160 --> 03:40:13.320
game one, usually game one is where you're trying to surprise the enemy, bring some

03:40:13.320 --> 03:40:19.560
cool strategy or whatever. This is the best you've got today. It's going to be a short day for the

03:40:19.560 --> 03:40:26.440
rejects here. Yep, so Bloodstone online. Ace has Ags. Nisha has Blank. I'd expect a smoke

03:40:27.240 --> 03:40:32.280
pretty soon from Liquid so they can realize their gains, as it were.

03:40:35.960 --> 03:40:40.360
They don't have to though. That's true. They don't have to. Who's making them?

03:40:40.360 --> 03:40:47.840
Just uh, if they group up, how do they possibly lose a fight genuinely?

03:40:47.840 --> 03:40:49.960
Yeah, I think it's tough too.

03:40:49.960 --> 03:40:56.680
Okay, looking for the rolling thunder, and you will get it with that axe, flying, oh

03:40:56.680 --> 03:40:58.360
my god, it hits all four heroes.

03:40:58.360 --> 03:41:00.920
They're gonna be able to clean up the Rubik.

03:41:00.920 --> 03:41:01.920
Where's the follow up?

03:41:01.920 --> 03:41:05.920
Tofu with the dive in, into the sunray, and here comes Nisha.

03:41:05.920 --> 03:41:09.840
He's gonna apply so much pressure, cranking him thanks to a huge Lotus Mikkei is there

03:41:09.840 --> 03:41:14.640
with the sonic wave not doing the greatest connection though as wits will tumble nisha

03:41:14.640 --> 03:41:20.800
just barely surviving no does take out eventually he ends with a double kill and in the meantime

03:41:21.600 --> 03:41:28.000
these heroes on the dire side are just melting nice sunray keeping his comrades alive liquid loose

03:41:28.000 --> 03:41:35.280
to a full team wipe requiring a buyback on the skill field so you kill you won the fight five

03:41:35.280 --> 03:41:40.280
for two, with Rubik dying first and hitting zero heroes with Sonic Wave.

03:41:40.280 --> 03:41:42.280
Yeah, that Sonic Wave was quite...

03:41:42.280 --> 03:41:45.280
Okay, do you guys want to hit your... I mean, if they don't need to hit those spells, it seems.

03:41:45.280 --> 03:41:46.280
What the heck?

03:41:46.280 --> 03:41:47.280
Not necessary. All right, we're going to pause.

03:41:47.280 --> 03:41:50.280
Aces, ace lagging. Okay, Mickey lagging.

03:41:50.280 --> 03:41:51.280
Oh, it's Mickey.

03:41:51.280 --> 03:41:55.280
Oh, do you think ace just shares control with Mickey and then he's just playing his...

03:41:55.280 --> 03:41:57.280
Oh, the secrets have been revealed.

03:41:59.280 --> 03:42:00.280
Oh.

03:42:00.280 --> 03:42:01.280
He's close to blink now.

03:42:01.280 --> 03:42:06.800
I see the replay here. So Ekki is going to be the first point of contact here for Whitz and they do get a decent wheel out and

03:42:06.800 --> 03:42:11.760
kill him off immediately. But the pango roll, as you mentioned, loads of connections.

03:42:12.480 --> 03:42:16.000
Look out for Mikki coming in from the right hand side showing how it's not done.

03:42:16.800 --> 03:42:22.560
It's on the way here. Queen of pain shall arrive. Here he comes, Mikki. Boom!

03:42:24.400 --> 03:42:29.680
That's how far ahead they are. Oh, maybe that's why he disconnected. It's like, I could not have missed that spell.

03:42:29.680 --> 03:42:32.520
It must have been something wrong.

03:42:32.520 --> 03:42:35.680
The hitboxes are off guys, I think we're using something today.

03:42:35.680 --> 03:42:40.520
Great voice for a mickey, I'm sure he'll appreciate that when he listens to the bot later.

03:42:40.520 --> 03:42:44.160
Like wow, okay, that's pretty accurate.

03:42:44.160 --> 03:42:50.800
Hecky on your screens now, do you know what 4,489 to the power of a half is?

03:42:50.800 --> 03:42:51.800
No.

03:42:51.800 --> 03:42:52.800
6-7.

03:42:52.800 --> 03:42:53.800
Great.

03:42:53.800 --> 03:42:55.400
I saw that on Reddit yesterday.

03:42:55.400 --> 03:42:56.400
What is that?

03:42:56.400 --> 03:42:58.200
I didn't mention ChatGPT at any point, did I?

03:42:58.200 --> 03:42:59.400
No, but you're brain rotting.

03:42:59.400 --> 03:43:01.400
That's fine, fine.

03:43:05.000 --> 03:43:13.040
Eki, bit of a memer, streams a lot. It's impossible not to lose your sanity. I can say from personal experience.

03:43:13.040 --> 03:43:15.400
So he's just bringing it with him into the game.

03:43:19.000 --> 03:43:24.320
No sponsorship obligations, unlike the players on Liquid who would surely have some really dumb stuff in their names, too, if they did.

03:43:24.720 --> 03:43:28.940
Actually, they do have a bit of flair. I think it's usually

03:43:29.400 --> 03:43:31.400
Yeah, Miky still has Aiden in his name.

03:43:31.400 --> 03:43:32.400
As always.

03:43:32.400 --> 03:43:34.400
He just shot off, dead.

03:43:34.400 --> 03:43:37.400
Box first, then dead.

03:43:37.400 --> 03:43:38.400
Dying inside the box.

03:43:38.400 --> 03:43:40.400
You've created your own coffin.

03:43:40.400 --> 03:43:41.400
Convenient.

03:43:41.400 --> 03:43:45.400
Fittingly, you get killed by swords, or the swashbuckle.

03:43:45.400 --> 03:43:46.400
It's very thematic.

03:43:46.400 --> 03:43:47.400
Yep, that's true.

03:43:47.400 --> 03:43:54.400
In the box, and a failed trick from the artist.

03:43:54.400 --> 03:43:56.400
You could use a coup d'etat in this game.

03:43:56.400 --> 03:43:57.400
It's a very bad matchup.

03:43:57.400 --> 03:44:02.400
Pango is a nightmare matchup for Boring Master.

03:44:02.400 --> 03:44:04.400
He won't block any of his physical damage.

03:44:04.400 --> 03:44:07.400
He can keep connecting on heroes in the box.

03:44:07.400 --> 03:44:10.400
Now, Ekky will get the nice telekinesis.

03:44:10.400 --> 03:44:14.400
I think it's cool to see this come back, like the save telekinesis.

03:44:14.400 --> 03:44:16.400
I'm happy that we're getting to see that more,

03:44:16.400 --> 03:44:18.400
because even when Rubik was played in 740,

03:44:18.400 --> 03:44:21.400
it felt like people weren't really buying this nearly as much,

03:44:21.400 --> 03:44:24.400
and now it's being prioritized to hell of a lot more.

03:44:24.400 --> 03:44:27.480
of a lot more. No, this game he gets it for free, but it's going to purchase quite a bit.

03:44:27.480 --> 03:44:27.980
Nisha.

03:44:27.980 --> 03:44:32.400
It's okay. They open up onto the Beastmaster, the Wheel of Wanderer to follow without a counter

03:44:32.400 --> 03:44:36.080
initiation, a Wheel of Wanderer on to Juvenile, a big sonic wave this time hitting from Mikkei,

03:44:36.080 --> 03:44:40.600
A staying alive thanks to the Essence Ring, but Nisha does fall, so a big kill for South

03:44:40.600 --> 03:44:43.200
American Rejects. It's going to cost them two supports.

03:44:43.200 --> 03:44:46.000
Oh, they got the Yule and the Kukutini to pull it.

03:44:46.000 --> 03:44:48.840
They're trying to deny it, but Roche does. Roche beats the shit out of them.

03:44:48.840 --> 03:44:54.720
Markmago is seen though, but Will at the very least get that and they steal the vote it seems.

03:44:54.720 --> 03:44:55.720
Yep.

03:44:55.720 --> 03:45:00.280
So, Anisha, a couple of deaths now.

03:45:00.280 --> 03:45:01.780
It's never for free though.

03:45:01.780 --> 03:45:03.580
It's expensive.

03:45:03.580 --> 03:45:05.320
They end up burning three.

03:45:05.320 --> 03:45:09.440
Also fighting away from their Viper I think is kind of a questionable choice, but it's

03:45:09.440 --> 03:45:13.560
easier said than done to connect the whole team here for a move.

03:45:13.560 --> 03:45:21.560
Look at that, a 3 for 1 exchange, it cost them 250 gold, but obviously it compounds with the death timers and not farming.

03:45:21.560 --> 03:45:28.560
It's a bigger loss than that. Now, time for some lucky shots onto Fudol Roshan.

03:45:28.560 --> 03:45:32.560
Beastmaster about to arrive and you would imagine the ages go into this.

03:45:32.560 --> 03:45:36.560
What level is Mikkei on club? As in Dota plus. Is that 10?

03:45:36.560 --> 03:45:40.560
This is 6 to 11. 6 to 11.

03:45:40.560 --> 03:45:43.400
The Sonic Wave is the first thing we noticed, right? The miss.

03:45:43.400 --> 03:45:46.120
Right here, he tried to blink and the pit didn't make it.

03:45:46.120 --> 03:45:47.960
Not as comfortable.

03:45:47.960 --> 03:45:49.560
He needs to disconnect again now.

03:45:49.560 --> 03:45:51.560
The Sonic Wave was good after the DC.

03:45:51.560 --> 03:45:52.760
Yeah.

03:45:52.760 --> 03:45:54.760
They will indeed give it to Nisha here.

03:45:54.760 --> 03:45:55.960
I think it makes a lot of sense.

03:45:55.960 --> 03:45:58.760
Yeah, he's the one that they've been prioritizing. No longer though.

03:46:01.960 --> 03:46:04.960
Yeah, this Dire lineup doesn't fight Aegis very well.

03:46:04.960 --> 03:46:07.560
They have to use big spells for kills.

03:46:07.560 --> 03:46:10.660
You can delete the word Aegis from that and it's still true.

03:46:11.360 --> 03:46:12.560
You just don't like Conka.

03:46:12.560 --> 03:46:13.660
I understand. I get it.

03:46:13.660 --> 03:46:14.460
I really don't.

03:46:14.460 --> 03:46:14.960
I get it.

03:46:14.960 --> 03:46:16.160
I mean, I like the concept.

03:46:16.160 --> 03:46:17.660
Oh, that's the...

03:46:17.660 --> 03:46:19.260
I miss the old Conka, man.

03:46:19.760 --> 03:46:21.260
Yeah, you want the cleave back.

03:46:21.260 --> 03:46:21.960
I do.

03:46:21.960 --> 03:46:23.260
I love cleavage.

03:46:23.460 --> 03:46:24.460
I mean, yeah.

03:46:24.660 --> 03:46:25.360
Who doesn't?

03:46:25.360 --> 03:46:25.960
Huh?

03:46:27.160 --> 03:46:28.460
You saw the trailer last night?

03:46:28.460 --> 03:46:30.260
Scofield getting burned up?

03:46:30.360 --> 03:46:33.660
Without context, that just sounds really weird to the audience.

03:46:37.560 --> 03:46:47.560
Of course the trailer to Relic Arena, let's be clear here, what Shannon watched last night, alright, Nisha, he has the Aegis, but...

03:46:47.560 --> 03:46:50.560
Don't waste it here though, X marks into the boat.

03:46:50.560 --> 03:46:55.560
They call his bloodline save, oh man, this is so bad for Kunkka to play into.

03:46:55.560 --> 03:46:57.560
That shard just...

03:46:57.560 --> 03:47:06.560
Up Sonic Wave, onto 2, Mikkei is going to get tormented for his troubles, as Darkmago did he X himself or is that stolen?

03:47:06.560 --> 03:47:08.560
Skullfuel being chased now by Nisha.

03:47:09.560 --> 03:47:11.560
Mickey should be able to finish it.

03:47:11.560 --> 03:47:12.560
Yeah.

03:47:13.560 --> 03:47:14.560
Okay.

03:47:14.560 --> 03:47:15.560
Mickey is more annoying.

03:47:15.560 --> 03:47:16.560
Link.

03:47:16.560 --> 03:47:17.560
Okay.

03:47:17.560 --> 03:47:18.560
Skullfuel.

03:47:18.560 --> 03:47:19.560
Yeah.

03:47:19.560 --> 03:47:20.560
Standing still, they'll never look there.

03:47:20.560 --> 03:47:22.560
Okay, run into him again.

03:47:22.560 --> 03:47:24.560
Good attempt on the 9, not happening.

03:47:30.560 --> 03:47:32.560
14k of the lead now.

03:47:32.560 --> 03:47:35.560
Growing by the minute, it's a very clear trend.

03:47:35.560 --> 03:47:44.320
And if you look at the graph, just a constant increase in the pockets of liquid, every minute

03:47:44.320 --> 03:47:47.080
it seems like they gain 500 more gold than their opponents.

03:47:47.080 --> 03:47:48.080
Look at that hit.

03:47:48.080 --> 03:47:50.920
That's what Kanka has been reduced.

03:47:50.920 --> 03:47:53.600
What has happened to my boy?

03:47:53.600 --> 03:48:00.320
I mean, there was a time where it was a bit egregious where you would go divine

03:48:00.320 --> 03:48:04.800
and be relatively safe, but like, sure, that was too much.

03:48:04.800 --> 03:48:06.000
The game has changed a lot since.

03:48:06.000 --> 03:48:07.520
But this, yeah, that's true.

03:48:07.520 --> 03:48:08.680
That might be fine now.

03:48:08.680 --> 03:48:09.240
Who knows?

03:48:09.240 --> 03:48:12.400
The old kung-fu wouldn't even be broken in current doughnut,

03:48:12.400 --> 03:48:12.880
I think.

03:48:12.880 --> 03:48:14.120
Yeah, let's revert all that.

03:48:14.120 --> 03:48:16.560
Let's look at all the patch notes, delete them.

03:48:16.560 --> 03:48:18.160
You can have chat should be to help you out.

03:48:18.160 --> 03:48:21.080
Oh, deleting patch notes sounds like something I want.

03:48:21.080 --> 03:48:22.280
Are we on the same page?

03:48:22.280 --> 03:48:26.280
The hero is just, you said uninspiring about the gameplay,

03:48:26.280 --> 03:48:29.960
but I'd say the hero is uninspiring right now.

03:48:29.960 --> 03:48:31.920
Two and a half minutes on the A, just liquid,

03:48:31.920 --> 03:48:38.040
just running over South American rejects right now you say right now I would say

03:48:38.040 --> 03:48:46.760
the last 20 minutes yeah the whole game has been there's okay what the hell is

03:48:46.760 --> 03:48:51.320
cinder and protocol man you got some chubby cheeks there's cinder and I like

03:48:51.320 --> 03:48:58.920
that they find the cuckoo shit it's slop now that's that's for sure it is a

03:48:58.920 --> 03:49:07.720
a lot of slob dark moggo had to bkb run away and might still find him ace with the swash

03:49:07.720 --> 03:49:12.200
and yeah they'll get to kill this is getting hard to watch from being honest frank put

03:49:12.200 --> 03:49:19.160
the viper strike just runs away liquid not being punished any step of the way here

03:49:20.120 --> 03:49:23.880
yeah they just look they also look at their cameras they're just very

03:49:23.880 --> 03:49:27.220
great comic-compose, just very straightforward.

03:49:27.220 --> 03:49:28.300
Well, another one.

03:49:28.300 --> 03:49:29.840
Darkest, is that Slacks?

03:49:29.840 --> 03:49:30.880
I don't know what's going on.

03:49:30.880 --> 03:49:33.600
I think that's Slacks at the top, yeah.

03:49:33.600 --> 03:49:34.440
Okay.

03:49:37.440 --> 03:49:39.240
That was one trend that I liked.

03:49:39.240 --> 03:49:42.120
I know that we're not big fans of AI art in general,

03:49:42.120 --> 03:49:44.960
but you put in a prompt,

03:49:44.960 --> 03:49:46.520
and then you just make it more extreme,

03:49:46.520 --> 03:49:47.760
more extreme, more extreme,

03:49:47.760 --> 03:49:49.000
and you see each iteration,

03:49:49.000 --> 03:49:50.960
it does get hilarious at a certain point.

03:49:50.960 --> 03:49:53.160
Always ends with a galaxy.

03:49:53.160 --> 03:49:55.480
That's the common denominator.

03:49:57.080 --> 03:49:58.760
Tisha with the shield rune.

03:49:58.760 --> 03:50:00.520
About to dissipate though.

03:50:00.520 --> 03:50:02.320
They will get this tier two.

03:50:02.320 --> 03:50:05.960
And that means only one tier two at the bot remains.

03:50:05.960 --> 03:50:07.680
45 seconds on the Aegis.

03:50:08.880 --> 03:50:11.080
Doesn't look like they're gonna use it in any capacity.

03:50:11.080 --> 03:50:12.280
And okay, what is this one?

03:50:12.280 --> 03:50:15.640
Yeah, let's see, that's more galaxy-like.

03:50:15.640 --> 03:50:18.600
All right, it's like a hive mind up there.

03:50:18.600 --> 03:50:21.200
It has reached its final form, fortunately.

03:50:23.160 --> 03:50:25.160
That's the end

03:50:25.280 --> 03:50:27.280
Sinder it's not happy

03:50:27.280 --> 03:50:29.280
Not happy saying that

03:50:29.800 --> 03:50:34.920
I'm not happy seeing this game though. So I'd rather see that in the game right now. Oh, that's rough the trochus

03:50:34.920 --> 03:50:40.980
That is that is harsh words. They didn't show up to game one. Let's be honest like why are we mincing words here?

03:50:40.980 --> 03:50:43.100
That's just wait they've got a plan

03:50:47.320 --> 03:50:48.820
Me too

03:50:48.820 --> 03:50:53.080
Getting rooted getting killed. All right. What's the plan from here? It's the rubber band strategy

03:50:53.080 --> 03:50:59.320
It's yeah, if only that still existed this the sniper juggernaut troll patch. Mm-hmm

03:50:59.520 --> 03:51:02.720
Was it the same one with the rubber band? I don't know if that was the ho ho hop patch

03:51:02.720 --> 03:51:09.600
I don't think so but could I mean all the disastrous ones kind of blend together in your memory, right? Yes

03:51:10.200 --> 03:51:15.020
Yeah, the rubber band was something else. That that was actually what turbo it probably is now

03:51:16.760 --> 03:51:20.040
Okay, they're gonna open up on tell me show he boxes himself

03:51:20.040 --> 03:51:25.040
Well, put under the high ground, gets the Wheel of Wonder as well, but not a rolling thunder from Ace.

03:51:25.040 --> 03:51:30.040
Not that much damage being applied to the flop, will blink out, gets X marks back, though.

03:51:30.040 --> 03:51:34.040
Here's the Sonic Way with the Bloodstone healing him up, and Dark Mago takes the tumble.

03:51:34.040 --> 03:51:37.040
Ace still on the high ground, they get the Torrent, which is stolen.

03:51:37.040 --> 03:51:42.040
On the prank, pops the BKB, dies shortly after, four dead in favor of Liquid.

03:51:42.040 --> 03:51:44.040
Liquid, look at the HP bars here.

03:51:44.040 --> 03:51:45.040
Yep.

03:51:45.040 --> 03:51:46.040
Quite healthy.

03:51:46.040 --> 03:51:47.040
Looking.

03:51:47.040 --> 03:51:49.040
No Dimash.

03:51:49.040 --> 03:51:52.660
I got make it quite low, but then he pressed some buttons and got Sunray healed

03:51:53.360 --> 03:51:54.860
That's good

03:51:54.860 --> 03:51:57.020
Well, just wait it's all part of the plan

03:51:58.980 --> 03:52:00.980
I've seen this before

03:52:02.520 --> 03:52:08.200
South American rejects are not gonna win, but it's part of the plan. They have an idea

03:52:11.480 --> 03:52:14.680
Do we miss 420 well it happened during the fight

03:52:14.680 --> 03:52:20.640
I was thinking about finding it out, but it already crossed. It was too quick

03:52:24.040 --> 03:52:30.720
Unfortunately, South American readers have one kill too many here if they can get seven they could get minus one like we can get

03:52:31.000 --> 03:52:33.000
66 which we're on pace for

03:52:36.640 --> 03:52:42.880
That's one lane for liquid not even eating the ages here a roche minute away from knowing when the spawns will be

03:52:42.880 --> 03:52:52.880
We're almost approaching the 1k GPM lead mark, which I can probably count on one hand how many times I've seen a team lose in all of Dota history with that.

03:52:53.880 --> 03:52:56.880
So, could it involve eternal envy by the chance?

03:52:57.880 --> 03:52:59.880
Maybe one of them, I'm not sure.

03:52:59.880 --> 03:53:00.880
Ace? Hello?

03:53:00.880 --> 03:53:04.880
Yep, he's feeling very confident. There's no backup yet though.

03:53:04.880 --> 03:53:06.880
Rolling thunder used to no avail.

03:53:07.880 --> 03:53:08.880
And now they're gonna smoke.

03:53:08.880 --> 03:53:14.440
We're going to take this opportunity knowing that at least one spell is down, and if they

03:53:14.440 --> 03:53:16.880
lose this fight, I could see a GG.

03:53:16.880 --> 03:53:19.440
They're going for this, and if it fails, they immediately GG out.

03:53:19.440 --> 03:53:20.440
I would think so.

03:53:20.440 --> 03:53:24.840
Is it going to find the opening onto Micke at the avatar with the Wheel of Wonder, but

03:53:24.840 --> 03:53:25.840
the save is there.

03:53:25.840 --> 03:53:26.840
It's an Islamic wave.

03:53:26.840 --> 03:53:31.520
Micke healing up with the Bloodstone again, blinks out to safety, and now it is likely

03:53:31.520 --> 03:53:34.360
not going to turn out too well for the South American Rejects.

03:53:34.360 --> 03:53:38.480
Although they do a lot of damage to this pango, that's a good kill, Ace.

03:53:38.480 --> 03:53:44.000
of going down to Witt's. Mickey able to finish off Skilfield though. So two supports for the

03:53:44.000 --> 03:53:48.800
offlaner. Stolen Torrent nicely placed from Ekki. Can they get a connection off of it though?

03:53:49.920 --> 03:53:53.600
The high ground trying to run away Torrent continuing to hit Dark Mago.

03:53:55.520 --> 03:54:00.000
Then a more successful Kunkka on the Rubik. It feels like this game.

03:54:02.160 --> 03:54:05.120
As Mickey Jumpson gets a burst of heal with the Bloodstone.

03:54:05.120 --> 03:54:08.400
You should have down the half HP.

03:54:08.400 --> 03:54:13.880
Mckay, continuing with the Shadow Strikes onto Dark Mago, Skullfield really low as well.

03:54:13.880 --> 03:54:14.880
He might.

03:54:14.880 --> 03:54:15.880
Don't stand next to each other.

03:54:15.880 --> 03:54:16.880
Don't stand next to each other.

03:54:16.880 --> 03:54:17.880
Don't be close.

03:54:17.880 --> 03:54:18.880
Don't be close.

03:54:18.880 --> 03:54:19.880
This would be fitting.

03:54:19.880 --> 03:54:20.880
Oh, Skull, okay.

03:54:20.880 --> 03:54:21.880
That's one.

03:54:21.880 --> 03:54:22.880
He needs to not be close to the other.

03:54:22.880 --> 03:54:23.880
Don't go close to the other.

03:54:23.880 --> 03:54:24.880
Keep going.

03:54:24.880 --> 03:54:25.880
Don't stand with him.

03:54:25.880 --> 03:54:26.880
Don't go.

03:54:26.880 --> 03:54:27.880
Keep going.

03:54:27.880 --> 03:54:28.880
Don't stop now.

03:54:28.880 --> 03:54:29.880
Okay.

03:54:29.880 --> 03:54:33.880
Unfortunately, that would have been the most entertaining part of this game.

03:54:33.880 --> 03:54:36.880
27, K. Lee from Liquid.

03:54:36.880 --> 03:54:41.880
Yeah, that's the good news here for Rejects. The gold lead has plateaued now.

03:54:41.880 --> 03:54:46.880
For the first time in a game, they didn't gain GPM for one minute.

03:54:46.880 --> 03:54:50.880
Liquid are flatlining, which is not a good sign, of course.

03:54:50.880 --> 03:54:53.880
You want to keep growing that lead forever.

03:54:55.880 --> 03:54:58.880
Okay, another smoke for the Rejects.

03:54:58.880 --> 03:55:01.880
With the Wheel of Wonder, again going for Mickey, a lot of damage.

03:55:01.880 --> 03:55:03.880
Sunray trying to heal, not gonna happen!

03:55:03.880 --> 03:55:06.580
80 seconds on the deck, tofu!

03:55:06.580 --> 03:55:10.080
He's the one that gets telekinesis instead, he does not have his ult.

03:55:11.380 --> 03:55:13.380
I'll get the yules.

03:55:13.380 --> 03:55:15.380
And that will set up the kill.

03:55:15.380 --> 03:55:18.880
I told you, it was all part of the plan. Just gotta believe, just gotta wait.

03:55:18.880 --> 03:55:20.880
Okay, what's the percentage on this game now?

03:55:20.880 --> 03:55:21.880
90-10.

03:55:21.880 --> 03:55:23.380
I respectfully disagree.

03:55:23.380 --> 03:55:24.880
10, huh?

03:55:24.880 --> 03:55:28.380
And what goddamn universe is this 10?

03:55:28.380 --> 03:55:29.380
11.

03:55:29.380 --> 03:55:30.380
7.

03:55:30.380 --> 03:55:37.780
I think this is just having an aneurysm, plus I don't know about

03:55:38.580 --> 03:55:41.620
Think a bunch of people just cancel their subscriptions and it's just bugged out

03:55:45.220 --> 03:55:47.220
About the known to

03:55:47.700 --> 03:55:51.900
Imagine if valve annually raised the price on Dota plus like with Netflix and stuff

03:55:51.900 --> 03:55:55.540
Yeah, a lot of people just subscribe. They don't even realize they're still subscribed anymore

03:55:55.780 --> 03:55:59.300
That is a fast kill on to the viper Frank the tank

03:56:00.380 --> 03:56:01.380
No, not anymore.

03:56:03.780 --> 03:56:04.980
We're like Frank the Spank.

03:56:06.780 --> 03:56:09.980
Dark Mago in the cover of his Shadowblade.

03:56:10.980 --> 03:56:12.180
I was looking for this.

03:56:12.380 --> 03:56:13.080
He is.

03:56:13.180 --> 03:56:14.980
There's snowball control as well.

03:56:14.980 --> 03:56:18.580
Get the Waller's Punch after the X, so Ekky ends up dropping.

03:56:21.880 --> 03:56:24.380
South American rejects showing some signs of life.

03:56:24.380 --> 03:56:25.980
There is a pulse, technically.

03:56:26.080 --> 03:56:26.580
Yeah.

03:56:27.480 --> 03:56:29.080
It's a shame they have to get this far behind

03:56:29.080 --> 03:56:34.680
before these successful moves happen, but this actually happens more often than you might think

03:56:34.680 --> 03:56:38.200
with a team really far ahead, because when you're this far ahead you start spreading thinner

03:56:38.200 --> 03:56:44.360
around the map to farm more, and that can give moments of opportunity. You can just play tightly

03:56:44.360 --> 03:56:48.040
together and still dominate the map. You'll be farming a bit less, but the enemy team will

03:56:48.040 --> 03:56:53.400
also not be able to make moves on you. It varies by a game state what's really better to do

03:56:53.400 --> 03:56:57.920
all in all though considering just the magnitude of this lead shouldn't matter

03:56:57.920 --> 03:57:08.080
all that much which of the two liquid chews they choose ages now that matters

03:57:08.080 --> 03:57:16.800
Roche number two although I get some D wars first and Rubik's still not up for

03:57:16.800 --> 03:57:22.080
10 seconds it's not really gonna stop them though can they contest this Roche

03:57:22.080 --> 03:57:27.600
will globally belch. They will contest it. This is the game deciding fight, most likely,

03:57:27.600 --> 03:57:32.080
Liquid are aware of this and they'll back out for a bit. Let me check it back to work.

03:57:32.080 --> 03:57:38.880
Never mind. You get smoked, sir, against your will. They keep pinged and said smoke.

03:57:38.880 --> 03:57:43.120
While rolling, Thunder onto the high ground, Ace finally finds a connection on to Frank.

03:57:43.120 --> 03:57:47.080
This is going to be a perma stun situation. They get the roar as well. Sonic Wave comes

03:57:47.080 --> 03:57:50.120
That fox is not going to save him. Two dead and

03:57:50.760 --> 03:57:53.520
Whisp being pursued now. He's really fast actually

03:57:54.400 --> 03:57:57.300
Now the buyback on the viper so Frank wants to keep fighting

03:58:03.680 --> 03:58:08.640
Ason company they're gonna find dark manga they're gonna force out another buyback, so it's back to a five versus five

03:58:09.400 --> 03:58:11.400
They're manga though. No bkb

03:58:12.160 --> 03:58:15.000
Couple big spells and cold on here and liquid they might just wait a little bit

03:58:15.000 --> 03:58:17.200
They still have supernova but no sonic, no roll.

03:58:18.700 --> 03:58:20.000
No urgency either though.

03:58:20.000 --> 03:58:20.700
Just chill.

03:58:20.700 --> 03:58:21.200
Yep.

03:58:21.200 --> 03:58:24.700
Go to their side of the map, wait for these spells to come off cooldown again, go for another hit,

03:58:24.700 --> 03:58:26.700
and if they kill the same heroes again the game's just over.

03:58:26.700 --> 03:58:27.200
And...

03:58:27.900 --> 03:58:30.700
Rejects recognize this, so they're gonna try a move of their own,

03:58:30.700 --> 03:58:33.700
but in turn Liquid will also smoke defensively.

03:58:36.300 --> 03:58:37.500
Be ready for this...

03:58:38.100 --> 03:58:40.000
inevitable clash.

03:58:40.000 --> 03:58:48.920
He's gonna pop first, links back, Mckay jumps in really deep, gets a scream and then blinks

03:58:48.920 --> 03:58:49.920
out.

03:58:49.920 --> 03:58:51.920
And he has a blink dagger.

03:58:51.920 --> 03:58:54.160
Oh, he has a blink dagger.

03:58:54.160 --> 03:58:57.200
I thought he used X mark from Kunkka, but no, it was actually his own blink dagger.

03:58:57.200 --> 03:58:58.600
That is something.

03:58:58.600 --> 03:58:59.600
Yeah.

03:58:59.600 --> 03:59:03.440
I think this is a pretty cool build on Klopp that we almost never see, but there

03:59:03.440 --> 03:59:04.720
will occasionally be situations.

03:59:04.720 --> 03:59:09.080
I mean, obviously this is a stop, so it doesn't really matter as much, but

03:59:09.080 --> 03:59:12.920
There's this idea that when you blink in on Koop, you hard commit right? Like then you're in.

03:59:12.920 --> 03:59:18.040
But if you have this, you can blink in, cast all your stuff, soak spells and then just blink out with your spell blink.

03:59:19.080 --> 03:59:23.800
Don't you blink in? Isn't it faster animation to blink out with the item?

03:59:23.800 --> 03:59:25.240
Yeah, but if you get hit, you can't do it.

03:59:25.240 --> 03:59:27.240
Yeah, but you're not gonna get hit that fast, that's for sure.

03:59:27.240 --> 03:59:29.240
I mean, if you're just blink screen blinking, sure.

03:59:29.240 --> 03:59:35.960
But generally if you wanna cast like Scream and Sonic or Shadow Strike, you're obviously leaving yourself all on their wall.

03:59:35.960 --> 03:59:38.200
Alright, free Aegis, Furnisha.

03:59:38.200 --> 03:59:44.200
Indubitably, as ace and company, they get the roar onto the tiny who gets boxed into the sonic wave.

03:59:44.200 --> 03:59:51.200
The egg is gonna pop here, and so is Tiny, and likely the hopes for South American rejects as they lose three.

03:59:51.200 --> 03:59:58.200
Make it four. Only one remaining member, no GG called, which is shocking to me.

03:59:58.200 --> 04:00:01.200
Darth Manga is gonna get away with his life.

04:00:02.200 --> 04:00:04.200
They have a full minute, it's over.

04:00:04.200 --> 04:00:08.760
They just need a wave, and they have the top wave coming in.

04:00:08.760 --> 04:00:12.720
This is a banner as well, so it was a banner, right?

04:00:12.720 --> 04:00:13.720
What's this version of it?

04:00:13.720 --> 04:00:14.720
Yeah, they have it.

04:00:14.720 --> 04:00:15.720
They have it.

04:00:15.720 --> 04:00:16.720
I was the last to really check.

04:00:16.720 --> 04:00:18.720
Hey, a Daedalus for Darth Maudeau.

04:00:18.720 --> 04:00:23.000
We're going to get to see how much worse this is versus the version from three years

04:00:23.000 --> 04:00:24.000
ago.

04:00:24.000 --> 04:00:26.840
More than that, probably.

04:00:26.840 --> 04:00:29.360
There are minimum megas here.

04:00:29.360 --> 04:00:30.360
Four liquid.

04:00:30.360 --> 04:00:35.040
Could put the banner and start hitting tier 4s if they wanted to.

04:00:35.040 --> 04:00:40.480
Mika's going to keep it in his backpack for reasons unknown, wants to increase the win

04:00:40.480 --> 04:00:43.040
rate of Roshan's banner.

04:00:43.040 --> 04:00:45.880
Still reading the spells of co-ops, so there's no need to pay attention here.

04:00:45.880 --> 04:00:48.360
We got the telekinesis and the initiation.

04:00:48.360 --> 04:00:53.160
BKB popped into retreat mode, into roar, into death.

04:00:53.160 --> 04:00:54.160
Nice datalus though.

04:00:54.160 --> 04:00:55.160
Yep, that was really...

04:00:55.160 --> 04:00:56.160
Didn't get to hit.

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Really hype.

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I think he hit zero times with his datalus.

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correct? Unfortunate. Okay, all right, and now they're calling GG. So that was

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game one, apparently. Hopefully we'll see a better showing for game two. That was a

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stinker and a half, my goodness. One of these teams was way better than the other

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in this first game. I think that takes 38 minutes. It's more frustrating.

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You can talk about draft all you want, but if this is how it's going to be, I

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don't think any picks will, unless Liquid genuinely just completely shit the

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bit. You have to play much better than this as rejects if you want to have a

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chance of beating this team. Well Richard that was game one. It was but only

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Justin looked to cut the South American rejects some slack. Obviously

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they're probably exhausted they've been playing so many series you know you

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have to get up in the morning come here in the studio after you've been

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grinding all night and then you just get owned by Team Liquid. You just

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can't feel good. Liquid just being liquid, yeah. Definitely playing the usual game.

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They just picked the most broken heroes in the game, in the meta right now, and they don't care about countermeasures.

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They basically just said, we're probably just gonna play better, we don't care.

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Pick them, move on.

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Yeah, I mean coming out of Laney stage like liquid one every lane all of their cores had at you know 10 minutes

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More net worth than everyone on South America rejects. We are worried about the counter matchups, but like

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Liquids they straight up just outplayed. They just played better lanes their rotations were better

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They showed up to the fights with more numbers. They pressed their buttons better

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Which is what liquid is good at but you throw that on top of like one lanes in situations where?

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I think South America rejects should have had a better showing. You know, we have like the Kunko versus Pango mid for example

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Presumably that's got to be pretty good for that Rocham deny right there was about as good as it does

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The beast not not the pango a pango off lane, which is like arguably even worse

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You know pango off lane does like nothing in the lane

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Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not really a lot you can sort of say other than like

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Team Liquid were just immaculate. You see in all of these team fights, it's like they've hit the combo on the spells every time, you know, just multiple people caught in the screen.

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This was super nice. Walking up into the high ground, like you can see that every single fight, Tiny was going for Phoenix.

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Tophu was every time egging in the most obnoxious scenario where he would bait Wits into thinking

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that he can insta-burst him and then he would at low HP or high HP but Wits is already committed,

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gets roared and you're screwed at that point.

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You're going to get eggs stunned, you're going to take like 50% of your HP and damage

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and you're committed.

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Like you're done.

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Just like Skidder yesterday, we kept going on the egg and at some point the guys solo killed and decided, okay, we're not doing this anymore, but unfortunately the rejects did not have so many opportunities to decide that.

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Look at Liquid, all the aggs as well, and shards, almost a full compliment. Just so far ahead, such a one-sided game.

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I mean, to be honest, this is their 40th game in six days on the rejects, so it must be tiring.

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It would have been difficult for them if that wasn't true, you know?

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Yeah, but at the same time, maybe they can step it up here for game number two.

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I would love to see this team at least bring out a third game.

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It's the last chance for South America.

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I think we were pretty happy about McKay's build in this game in terms of the queen of pain.

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Oh yeah, he went to Kaia.

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Kaia, Vale, then he got the bloodstone into Ags.

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It's just a little bit different from what we've seen,

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depending on the game, depending on whether they win or they lose,

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but kind of playing more the farming route,

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which I think, as a carry, it makes sense.

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But we both agree that Queen Eggs,

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like once you have Queen Eggs with Bloodstone, it's just Exodia.

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You insta-win the game.

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It's so hard to lose from that point onward.

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Enemy team has to commit so much to burst you through like 5,000 HP.

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If they don't do it, you just turn around,

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heal everything because of the spell lifesteal, like it's insane.

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So it just gets to that point as fast as possible.

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It does look like he has a great understanding of the hero.

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Quite amazing.

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Yeah, the Kaia Bluestone shows that he understands

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the Kaia gets into the second item timing faster,

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and in a better way, because you have a lot of mana.

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At the same time, he didn't finish the eggs.

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He actually went for Bluestone.

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He thinks this Tiny is going to have a Shadowblade early on.

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Maybe, right?

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And in case that happens, he doesn't want to die to it.

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So he just buys Bluestone so he can just farm more.

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I guess Kaia and Bluestone does a lot of damage, basically firing the entire map against the Agadans, it's just freedom.

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It's such a carry mentality, but it shows that he gets...

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Like he has a great understanding of Queen of Pain. I love it.

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The question then becomes moving forward because we know Queen of Pain is good.

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We've seen it in the mid lane, we've seen it in match-ups that are theoretically bad for it, and it's still done okay or better.

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Do you think we could see it flexed into the carry roll more based on that?

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It should.

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It should be.

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Queen of Pain has been a great carry, even last patch with the Blade Mail.

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Generally kind of the same idea.

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I think it's, again, the hero of the day.

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Yesterday it's been picked almost every game.

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Today has been picked every game so far.

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I talked about this in the morning.

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Seems like it's going to be the hero of the tournament.

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Yatoro in the last patch, when Spirit was winning a lot with Queen of Pain,

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he was playing it as a carry.

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He wasn't even going Blade Mail.

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He was just going this build, like minus the Bloodstone,

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because he did something different back then.

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but he would go, uh, Sondra and Kaia just mid quad build as a carry and it don't because still the agon of scepter

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plus other items that help you sustain in the late game is exodia. You just, it makes the game so tremendously easy to play.

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It scales amazingly. It should be played way more as a carry. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and obviously as well, I mean, team liquids,

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uh, they just don't look like they've got a standing right now. I thought Eki had another really insane game. Not looking good for a boxy.

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I mean, you know, he did say it was a vacation, but yeah, obviously you've got to be careful

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when you go on vacation because that's true.

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If your replacement is absolutely owning, you might get to stay on vacation, but I thought

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that he was like, huge in that game again.

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Yeah, he was a standout player for me in this match.

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He saved the Queen a couple of times.

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He got extra kills on the map.

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I loved his build, the distiller, you know, the classic.

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He buys the shot.

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I don't think I don't know if you got it from tormentor, but he definitely has sharp pretty fast

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And he understands that he has this like insane cast range when he says an ally so he goes

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And the lens on top of it and suddenly like

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When the screen gets gone on he just sends him into a different in a different game

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You know and you can't kill the screen anymore this guy has played out of his mind

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I I hate to say it because rubik is such a cool hero concept and it's so fun to watch

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Don't tell me anything this hero does too much this shit is too much

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No, so for everyone anyone at Bob was saying this hero is really bad right now

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Do not touch there's no way you should be the spell stealing guy that does other people's jobs

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But better and then also by the way if you wanted an oracle ringmaster shadow demon on your team

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He is now bad as well. Yeah, like come on. It's too much

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He turned around a moment in this game

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There was a fight on the mid lane next to tier one

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They were like going on the Beastmaster and he had like an avalanche

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He literally turned the fight around and that was probably like if they were successful in that the reject

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They probably could have had like a great great chance to take over the game

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There you go. So what's the talk about from a team liquid perspective a South American reject?

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We have Lacoste.

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What are you going to be sharing with us today?

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We're gonna be talking about five most important buildings

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on Dota map.

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Okay, let's start with number five, the least important.

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The building called the building,

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which is on both sides of Radiant and Dire,

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the one slightly closer to the Northeast.

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I like that one in particular.

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Okay, okay, so the ones that used to be the shrines

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when you went uphill. Yeah, the Ziggurat shrines,

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moon wells, yada, yada.

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It's called building.

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Now these are kind of important.

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The creeps do hit them instead of towers sometimes.

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But not as important.

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It's like close to FGG, which is on fourth place.

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Okay.

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FGG, yeah.

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Okay, so the FGG is the fourth place?

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Yes, also very important building to kill.

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It's like when you kill it,

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it's like you killed the player as well.

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All right, cool.

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Number three.

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Number three, we're gonna go with radiant melee barracks.

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The one on the left.

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Yeah, this one is like especially important

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because it is on the left side.

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Okay, which, you know,

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players typically will go with

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Yeah, that will go like from this, yeah, it depends whether you're left-handed or right-handed,

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so like most of the people are right-handed, so the left, the one on the left side makes

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definitely more sense.

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Of course, it's the one that typically will do last, so it's the most important for mega-creeps.

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Absolutely.

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Very, very true.

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Now, with that, what's number two?

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Number two is gonna be the radiant, actually dire mid-tier one tower.

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Dire mid-tier one tower, can you explain that?

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It is very important because it is the first tower that you need to kill when you're

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playing radiant to be able to kill other towers in the mid lane.

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I see.

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I see.

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And it opens up the jungle.

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Absolutely.

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All right.

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And number one, the most important building on the Dota 3.

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The most important, it is going to be ancient.

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This is going to be the realest answer.

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Yeah, if you lose this one, you actually lose the game.

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All right.

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Well, thank you so much.

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An incredible analytical job there.

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Watch those buildings, my friends, protect them.

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Welcome back to PGL Belahia Season 8 and we have got the grinders vs the greats.

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SA rejects really up against it, had an opening game to forget, Team Liquid very much in

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pole position.

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Yeah, I find it so hard to talk about this game unless South America just steps it

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up, they need to step it up.

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This team can do much better when they step it up and keep it up.

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They can do so much better than what they showed in game 1.

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Definitely.

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Meanwhile Liquid, again, they've only lost in here in this tournament, only against B.B.

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And they do look like the almost favorites to me.

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And you can see by the first time I've seen the essay rejets, guys coming in looking beat up.

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Dude, they look tired.

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Yeah.

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They look really tired.

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People are rubbing their eyes like...

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Yeah, Schofield was just like, oh, I just want to play mine.

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And then look at the contrast.

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Yeah.

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I mean, this is the benefit of just having such a great performance.

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And there are like so many tournaments throughout the years for Liquid, right?

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I mean, these guys were so happy, as you said, to play the last games here at PGL.

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But then they wake up today.

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It's morning, you know, Dota players don't really like waking up in the morning.

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And then they have to face Liquid.

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Again, they've played 40 games in the last six days.

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Now you have to face Liquid.

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It's kind of a little bit like mentally.

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Mentally, go off the game.

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You would be exhausted training.

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You know that you have to do your,

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like just pull out your best game, your best heroes,

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no mistakes allowed.

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And yeah, as you can see,

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they're just not feeling that good.

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Meanwhile, Liquid, they're just relaxed.

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It's not a day at the office.

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Yeah, and like Liquid at other Wallachias,

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specifically the ones that they've won. They've kind of done the thing where they looked, you know,

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decent, informed, okay, during the group stage, and then slowly they ramp up and then by the end of it

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they look completely unstoppable. And part of me is feeling like we're seeing a repeat of the

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walkie is that they won. Yeah. Every time they... Start that on day one. Yeah. Getting to the

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lower brackets, you know, power through. Every time every time they get like pushed into a corner,

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they kind of they bite back and they they learn something whereas South American rejects now they're in this position where they

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They have to learn something or they're out like this is this is it for them. They've played so many games in the last

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Week that you know hypothetically they should be very well trained at like talking to each other after the games figuring out

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What went wrong?

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They decide to go with who do we come up with?

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Let's remember Slardar, one of the most contested heroes in this tournament, with an insane win

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rate.

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I was like, 20 plus games, 75% plus win rate.

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Completely ignored last game.

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And this game seems like they don't prioritize it on Liquid, they don't really care, but

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South American rejects, they went for Viper as well, has played it three times I think.

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Yes, and when they say Viper, you know, please.

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Slardar is very good against it, as we've talked about.

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crush and she's dead it feels it feels really rough to steal the Phoenix again

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last thing they first picked Viper I mean to be honest I completely forgot the

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hero existed this lot lot because it's just been banned every game maybe South

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to making a rejects probably came in with the plan prepared they saw the

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solder available they didn't expect it they still decided to go with the plan

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and since the plan was Viper first pick which is a Frank hero as we discussed

04:16:48.460 --> 04:16:51.800
Dark Nego does not really play this hero. They can't really pick solo, right?

04:16:51.800 --> 04:16:55.000
Mm-hmm. So that's why they ignored it. This time they don't have the hero.

04:16:55.000 --> 04:17:00.280
I also think last game that they probably are just, I don't want to play against Tofu's Phoenix again, please.

04:17:00.400 --> 04:17:06.320
He saved so many lives. He had unbelievable egg placement.

04:17:06.320 --> 04:17:07.820
Yeah. Yeah.

04:17:07.820 --> 04:17:13.040
That was a nightmare to deal with. I mean, there are some patches like, I think Phoenix is definitely good, you know?

04:17:13.040 --> 04:17:19.440
But the facets removal patch Phoenix getting the it facet as an innate all of these things Phoenix is still very good

04:17:19.480 --> 04:17:23.240
But the big reason I think Phoenix is good is a lot of the carries don't like

04:17:23.880 --> 04:17:29.240
Killing the egg there are just no egg scramblers. You're playing into some, you know, tiny like sometimes it

04:17:29.880 --> 04:17:32.540
Alchemist or Luna is the best here to kill the egg

04:17:32.540 --> 04:17:38.860
But how are they gonna do run into melee range get the you know get themselves killed snapfire doesn't exist gyrocopters complete dog shit

04:17:38.880 --> 04:17:42.920
We are seeing a little bit of Ursa, but it's nightfall playing it

04:17:42.920 --> 04:17:47.240
life stealer but kind of only against tiny and even these heroes it feels a

04:17:47.240 --> 04:17:50.360
little weird picking them there's there's other stuff that takes priority so

04:17:50.360 --> 04:17:57.200
Phoenix feels so good. Would you prioritize I mean they do Phoenix over Sardar

04:17:57.200 --> 04:18:00.560
I feel like Sardar you could have picked it into the hoodwink it would have

04:18:00.560 --> 04:18:04.640
been so such a good like counter pick to hoodwink maybe they're just find him

04:18:04.640 --> 04:18:10.440
in in the game he like pretty much dies almost on and at the same time

04:18:10.440 --> 04:18:15.440
Miki's generally the general heroes that he plays are not very good against other guys.

04:18:15.440 --> 04:18:20.160
The only one that's really good and he loves playing against it is actually the Windranger.

04:18:20.160 --> 04:18:24.020
But since they do have the second pick, they had the opportunity to pick a solo and banning

04:18:24.020 --> 04:18:25.020
the Windranger.

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Yeah.

04:18:26.020 --> 04:18:29.520
The Life stealer ban as well suggests they might want a Tiny.

04:18:29.520 --> 04:18:30.520
A Tiny against Phoenix.

04:18:30.520 --> 04:18:31.520
A Tiny against Phoenix.

04:18:31.520 --> 04:18:33.160
It's been going yesterday and today.

04:18:33.160 --> 04:18:34.920
It's such a hard matchup.

04:18:34.920 --> 04:18:39.160
You basically, you need to itemize, I mean, are you even able to itemize against

04:18:39.160 --> 04:18:45.720
Phoenix, and that's just a support. It's a hard rough time. Sunray is just too good against Tiny.

04:18:45.720 --> 04:18:53.240
Yesterday I've seen a solo kill skitter from 100 to 0, a 6-flot of Tiny, which is crazy.

04:18:53.880 --> 04:18:58.040
Oh, absolutely. It's just 1 6-flot of Tiny with about 5,000 health as well.

04:18:58.680 --> 04:19:03.080
I'm also surprised Liquid decided to take out Rubik. Pick his Rubik.

04:19:03.080 --> 04:19:10.240
That's because Saurpolly has the first pick and there it is, we went for the Saurpolly

04:19:10.240 --> 04:19:12.280
but the Windranger is in the pool.

04:19:12.280 --> 04:19:18.600
I can see an 18 Windranger here from Liquid or he could be very confident and just pick

04:19:18.600 --> 04:19:19.600
it earlier.

04:19:19.600 --> 04:19:22.320
What about South American Rejects?

04:19:22.320 --> 04:19:28.520
What if they snipe the Windranger pick and put it on Scofield and then run El Misho

04:19:28.520 --> 04:19:29.520
with Phoenix.

04:19:29.520 --> 04:19:31.160
They could definitely do that.

04:19:31.160 --> 04:19:32.560
It's not a bad idea by any means.

04:19:32.560 --> 04:19:40.140
Mickey's hero pool kind of suffers in his daughter. I see his second best hero probably would be a Luna

04:19:41.000 --> 04:19:43.000
What a morta?

04:19:43.500 --> 04:19:45.500
Because more to council scramble the egg

04:19:46.120 --> 04:19:48.120
Morta's good against the egg

04:19:48.840 --> 04:19:53.560
Kind of decent against all in the game because of the her ulti, but at the same time if she does get caught out

04:19:53.560 --> 04:19:57.360
I don't know they go for the win they go for the old classic. It's just too good. It's just too good

04:19:57.940 --> 04:19:59.940
No hesitation. Yeah

04:19:59.940 --> 04:20:05.900
I would have been very successful against all of us and make it plays pretty good

04:20:05.900 --> 04:20:10.740
I think he's the second best winner in the world right now. Mm-hmm. It's first being nightfall, of course

04:20:15.460 --> 04:20:20.040
So like well, I was thinking tusk, but they go for another like melee

04:20:20.580 --> 04:20:24.940
Beefy boy with with wind and hoodwink you kind of need some art someone to get in there

04:20:24.940 --> 04:20:32.140
Underlord hasn't really been opting to buy pipe too much on this patch. It's been another kind of build

04:20:33.380 --> 04:20:38.620
Yeah, egg and acceptor at the pipe near and access just to get you just have a global route

04:20:39.380 --> 04:20:41.220
As your disposal

04:20:41.220 --> 04:20:44.620
It's crazy. You just come into the gates and then he just roots you again

04:20:44.620 --> 04:20:49.480
And then he has 8 of them pop basically is like rooting you for 10 seconds if he decides to

04:20:49.480 --> 04:20:53.480
tear that with a rubik and suddenly like you're back into the pit.

04:20:53.480 --> 04:20:57.480
Couldwink plus Underlord, I don't think we've seen this picked where it lost lane.

04:20:57.480 --> 04:20:58.480
No, no.

04:20:58.480 --> 04:21:01.480
This is an unbelievably good lane.

04:21:01.480 --> 04:21:02.480
Very strong lane.

04:21:02.480 --> 04:21:07.480
I'm surprised Sarr are banning Hosskar.

04:21:07.480 --> 04:21:14.480
I think, when you think about Nisha, yes he does play Hosskar from time to time,

04:21:14.480 --> 04:21:16.480
but he's not the Hosskar.

04:21:16.480 --> 04:21:17.480
No.

04:21:17.480 --> 04:21:24.720
I would not be afraid of nature house car. He played yesterday. Obviously he had very bad 1v2 lane, not even a 1v1

04:21:24.720 --> 04:21:26.960
It was actually legit the 1v2 mid lane

04:21:27.760 --> 04:21:31.780
But still not very impressed by a self-car in general. He has so many good heroes

04:21:34.840 --> 04:21:39.240
Interesting they go for the bird this is another hero that can suffer versus the windrunner

04:21:39.240 --> 04:21:42.800
I'm the end of the world and the underworld, but that's that's why they pick

04:21:42.800 --> 04:21:49.600
sd you can purge the the windrow off and when the carry to carry matchup you can

04:21:49.600 --> 04:21:54.560
steal the underlord aura as you make slaughterers lane a little bit easier

04:21:54.560 --> 04:21:59.080
like slaughter plus Kansas unfathomable amounts of damage especially if you

04:21:59.080 --> 04:22:03.280
pair that with the sd to terminate and purge like there's a crazy damage

04:22:03.280 --> 04:22:06.320
threshold that they can hit in this game for South American rejects I'm

04:22:06.320 --> 04:22:11.360
gonna disagree with you on kids this is winter I think it is good against

04:22:11.360 --> 04:22:16.740
I think his your kisses because that's the kid apart from me Po you you love cats

04:22:16.740 --> 04:22:19.800
I mean to me kids seems like one of the best case of the patch right now

04:22:19.800 --> 04:22:22.340
I don't know if I it's just satanic playing it

04:22:22.340 --> 04:22:27.820
But this feels looks whole good and almost every game played the reason why it lost it wasn't because of the hero

04:22:27.820 --> 04:22:31.340
Was actually the players not good enough on the hero in my opinion

04:22:31.340 --> 04:22:36.820
And yeah, they have the shadow demon to match up the winner on always it always a bad match up for winner

04:22:36.820 --> 04:22:42.940
You don't you do not want to play against this. Yeah, this one. This one's rough like purge. Othi is too strong to deal with

04:22:44.100 --> 04:22:48.180
Then they could go for Queen. So today we're four for four on Queen games

04:22:48.900 --> 04:22:50.900
also true

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It means slaughter mid now

04:22:55.220 --> 04:23:00.420
Feels very bad. You could it's one of the worst matchups could could you also?

04:23:00.420 --> 04:23:06.580
Also, just run back to Queen Terry against Slaughter and like you follow the Slaughter

04:23:06.580 --> 04:23:13.740
and then, because Wind is now pretty hard countered by SD, you want Wind as a support?

04:23:13.740 --> 04:23:19.420
100%. I feel like they picked Windranger early on 14 and left the pick open on 18 because

04:23:19.420 --> 04:23:25.300
they basically want to give it to Ekki and have the Queen or maybe other heroes, but

04:23:25.300 --> 04:23:29.420
in this case the Queen, be just a great matchup for him on the lane.

04:23:29.420 --> 04:23:34.420
because this is a really sick Queen game. It's a very good Queen game and Mika

04:23:34.420 --> 04:23:39.520
Mika shows a very good understanding of the hero so I wouldn't be surprised if he

04:23:39.520 --> 04:23:46.040
plays it. Although Sardr do have the last pick so we'll get to they will

04:23:46.040 --> 04:23:52.460
understand if it's win or a support or not before they get the last pick.

04:23:52.980 --> 04:23:57.140
Think they play kids. Dark Michael plays kids mid he doesn't play kids mid right.

04:23:57.140 --> 04:24:02.340
I haven't seen him play kismin. I don't think that's some players in this room that do play kismin

04:24:02.840 --> 04:24:04.840
Rcy why you know?

04:24:06.100 --> 04:24:08.980
See me cool and now he was still in the tournament

04:24:10.500 --> 04:24:14.680
Yeah, but dark muggle. I don't that's the last guy. I would see

04:24:15.260 --> 04:24:21.800
Picking up the kez mid. Well, sir. Definitely assume this winner of the carry. They're banning five plus heroes

04:24:22.960 --> 04:24:24.580
Liquid my surprise in here

04:24:24.580 --> 04:24:27.980
Yeah, there's some really cool stuff that Liquid could do here if they pick something that's like

04:24:28.540 --> 04:24:35.740
Flexible between lanes. I mean this is a great spread opportunity like void spirit for nature

04:24:36.060 --> 04:24:41.880
Storm spirit the shadow demon needs to be caught in the teamfights. They need to have this guy

04:24:41.880 --> 04:24:45.780
They already have a queen, but it's not good enough. They need somebody with control

04:24:46.820 --> 04:24:51.800
Ideally voice for it storm spirits could be very good, and they do go for the five-posts

04:24:51.800 --> 04:25:01.720
or 4 plus. Yeah, so it's a win-run carry, it does not care about the Shadow Demon matches.

04:25:01.720 --> 04:25:05.960
It is good against Sardar, this is why they picked it, so not very surprised.

04:25:05.960 --> 04:25:10.720
Yeah, so once again another game where Liquid is not really caring too much about the like

04:25:10.720 --> 04:25:15.600
one-to-one counters in the game, they say like, okay yeah, you have Sd versus Windrunner,

04:25:15.600 --> 04:25:19.480
it'll make her game hard, but we're so confident in the matchup versus Sardar that

04:25:19.480 --> 04:25:24.640
we're gonna win anyway like we're gonna get that timing and use it so well that

04:25:24.640 --> 04:25:27.940
there's no point where you can take that advantage of having the SD purge

04:25:27.940 --> 04:25:35.620
well boxy had a better win rate on top than ikidos maybe maybe it'll be a

04:25:35.620 --> 04:25:40.600
tofu tofu tusk they could switch both of them play both heroes so they can

04:25:40.600 --> 04:25:42.600
Which

04:25:43.440 --> 04:25:47.180
Because because ecce's hood link is pretty nasty

04:25:50.320 --> 04:25:52.320
They go for vipere again I

04:25:54.040 --> 04:25:56.040
Am the way what's going on?

04:25:56.440 --> 04:26:01.320
That's it. I'm gonna switch my name to the vipere guy. You need to stop you need to cut this out

04:26:03.400 --> 04:26:07.920
So the mid dark maggle we talked about it. He doesn't play vipere very often

04:26:07.920 --> 04:26:13.920
Wait, hold on a second. Don't you just win mid, shit on the Viper, and then queen, carry, shit on the Sardar?

04:26:13.920 --> 04:26:18.920
No, because look at what Liquid are doing. They did not pick their heroes. They're gonna put the win ranger mid and the queen on the safe.

04:26:18.920 --> 04:26:19.920
That's what I just said.

04:26:19.920 --> 04:26:20.920
Oh, actually.

04:26:20.920 --> 04:26:21.920
That's what I was thinking.

04:26:22.920 --> 04:26:27.920
I hope they do it. I hope they do it. They don't do it, okay.

04:26:27.920 --> 04:26:29.920
They were thinking about it, obviously, but...

04:26:29.920 --> 04:26:36.920
They're running back last game, dude. Like, we have all these crazy suggestions of how they win the matchups, and they're like, we'll just lose the matchups, but we're better.

04:26:36.920 --> 04:26:41.920
I mean again not doing what we talked about putting the winner on mid and

04:26:42.480 --> 04:26:47.440
Leaving the winner as carry against the shadow demon. It just shows so much confidence like with having themselves

04:26:47.560 --> 04:26:52.280
They basically don't care what they're matched up against. They know they're gonna win this game

04:26:52.280 --> 04:26:56.080
That's how it feels. That's their message that I'm receiving from them right now

04:26:56.640 --> 04:27:00.320
And because like you said they thought about it and you know, they had that talk

04:27:00.320 --> 04:27:03.600
They're like we just didn't be normal and they're there we're gonna beat them

04:27:03.600 --> 04:27:08.320
Yeah, sure nature's like I don't care man. It's whatever. I'll probably lose the lane. It's fine. We got this

04:27:08.800 --> 04:27:11.840
Wonder if top my girl has been playing Viper in secret

04:27:12.400 --> 04:27:16.680
Or something because I'm a roic or something. Yeah, well when a roic bandit

04:27:17.080 --> 04:27:23.120
When it when they'd be one time they didn't pick it and we were saying well that we go doesn't play it

04:27:23.120 --> 04:27:28.360
Why would you ban the Viper? Well, maybe they banned it for Frank. Yeah. Yeah, it could also true

04:27:28.360 --> 04:27:29.800
I mean

04:27:29.800 --> 04:27:33.280
Judging by last game and the this run in the internal liquid that is a solid overall

04:27:33.760 --> 04:27:35.760
Saur they have

04:27:35.920 --> 04:27:40.140
I only how much work to do this game. Yeah, I think I think the money

04:27:40.520 --> 04:27:45.300
Had it in the offline on this team. There's a reject. No, I don't know

04:27:46.480 --> 04:27:49.960
Haven't been impressed with the Viper mid honestly. He plays a bit of Viper

04:27:50.280 --> 04:27:54.560
It's not much and most of his mids are flashy like he plays Mars mid and

04:27:54.560 --> 04:27:59.620
And dragon night mid and earth shaker mid more than he's played the playmaker more than yeah

04:27:59.620 --> 04:28:04.980
Vipers not a playmaker. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't fit him. It does not all right guys

04:28:04.980 --> 04:28:09.460
Well, look it's time to get into the game. We'll see if essay rejects can deliver a better performance

04:28:09.980 --> 04:28:11.980
Take it away sons fan and syndrome

04:28:13.100 --> 04:28:18.700
Welcome to game two it can't get worse than game one. I have high hopes for this one center

04:28:18.700 --> 04:28:23.180
I feel like a lot of these teams they show up. I would say it's early in the morning

04:28:23.180 --> 04:28:25.380
It's not, but for the gamers it is.

04:28:25.380 --> 04:28:28.980
After that, I used to wake up at 1pm, 2pm all the time.

04:28:28.980 --> 04:28:31.380
Get that game one out of the way.

04:28:31.380 --> 04:28:32.420
Now you can fully res-

04:28:32.420 --> 04:28:34.940
I mean, you don't even look at that replay.

04:28:34.940 --> 04:28:37.780
You don't look at anything resembling game one.

04:28:37.780 --> 04:28:40.340
You come back with a new mindset in this game too.

04:28:40.340 --> 04:28:42.680
I mean, like I said in the previous game,

04:28:42.680 --> 04:28:44.300
I don't really mind the drafts that much.

04:28:44.300 --> 04:28:46.620
Okay, Frank, let's see if he gets out of this one.

04:28:46.620 --> 04:28:49.740
Frank gets bushwacked and he's gonna get slowed

04:28:49.740 --> 04:28:52.740
to a crawl and we'll get the crush off.

04:28:52.740 --> 04:28:57.300
with the I shards block him in so he's gonna be first blood only question is who will claim him ace

04:28:57.300 --> 04:29:00.420
obviously the one wanting it badly and he will get it

04:29:02.900 --> 04:29:09.380
so for me first of all a nice move from liquid to wrap around from that side clearly frank was not expecting that

04:29:11.540 --> 04:29:15.860
i don't really mind the drafts that much in either game i think the the picks from south america regis

04:29:15.860 --> 04:29:19.620
makes sense to me i want to see a change in playstyle i want to see more aggression i want to see

04:29:19.620 --> 04:29:24.260
them make Liquid uncomfortable, because that last game was literally just Liquid did whatever

04:29:24.260 --> 04:29:29.340
they wanted. You made one movement that failed and after that you did nothing for 10 minutes.

04:29:29.340 --> 04:29:31.060
And I don't think that's...

04:29:31.060 --> 04:29:36.340
I feel like I say this a lot. When there's a matchup between two teams where I just think

04:29:36.340 --> 04:29:40.420
one of them is better, I think the best way for an upset win is to pressure the favorite

04:29:40.420 --> 04:29:44.300
team early because they're just going to outclass you on average and you're going

04:29:44.300 --> 04:29:45.900
to need to win two games here.

04:29:45.900 --> 04:29:51.440
Yeah, this is actually a similar lineup in the fact that you're mid and off lane have to do shit again

04:29:51.440 --> 04:29:55.840
Yeah, they can't just sit around farming Kez can because I mean we've seen him late game

04:29:55.840 --> 04:30:00.520
He's disgusting beast. Yeah, and he has slaughter amplifying him. This is a combination in this turn

04:30:00.520 --> 04:30:02.880
I don't know if this hero duo has lost a game yet

04:30:03.420 --> 04:30:07.160
slaughter plus kez in the same team the games that I've seen has just been look ridiculous, but

04:30:08.280 --> 04:30:10.280
Unfortunately in the stat book

04:30:10.280 --> 04:30:17.280
Witz, one of his best heroes, is Kez, but he's fallen too in the tournament, so they have not converted it into victories.

04:30:17.280 --> 04:30:22.280
But it's not because of unfamiliarity with the hero. I think this guy is one of the best at it.

04:30:22.280 --> 04:30:30.280
We'll see if he can change that stat line and not leave the tournament with one of his favorites as a 0% win rate.

04:30:30.280 --> 04:30:32.280
That's never a good feeling.

04:30:32.280 --> 04:30:37.280
Anisha will be playing the quap against Viper. Not a hero I think about Dark Mago with.

04:30:37.280 --> 04:30:40.880
with just same as the panel I see him more of us like a chaotic playmaker

04:30:40.880 --> 04:30:49.360
bursty type hero spirits kunkka if he doesn't win this lane what was the point

04:30:49.360 --> 04:30:55.160
I think is my question you're putting him on a different style entirely for your

04:30:55.160 --> 04:31:02.960
team identity and YOLO is Viper a YOLO hero? it's at the bottom of my YOLO

04:31:02.960 --> 04:31:11.120
here listening like oh man screw it I'm going Viper you know not really good start

04:31:11.120 --> 04:31:15.680
Phoenician so far yeah nine and three versus the seven and one and I mean when

04:31:15.680 --> 04:31:20.800
does this match up when is it supposed to be hard for quap level two poison I'm

04:31:20.800 --> 04:31:25.760
not well in the first in this matchup to be honest to know when exactly Viper's

04:31:25.760 --> 04:31:29.400
meant to get his advantage but it it should be very early on before quap

04:31:29.400 --> 04:31:34.880
It's level 5 at least and now Dark Mago is starting to so I think you're probably right. It's the level 3 timing

04:31:34.880 --> 04:31:36.880
That's the strongest swing here

04:31:37.440 --> 04:31:39.440
Go to one. Oh

04:31:41.680 --> 04:31:46.960
The damage on Tomisha will live this is probably ecu's best hero by the way the hoodwink

04:31:48.440 --> 04:31:55.120
Saw his stats in the pre-series breakdown and it was like 70% win rate and pro games

04:31:55.120 --> 04:31:57.680
Just very very high on any hero

04:31:57.680 --> 04:32:00.960
decent chunk of games with it too I believe

04:32:00.960 --> 04:32:04.720
now comes with the asterisk of which team does he play for

04:32:04.720 --> 04:32:09.800
what level has the opposition been regardless is still shows a level of

04:32:09.800 --> 04:32:12.680
understanding and familiarity with the hero if nothing else

04:32:12.680 --> 04:32:17.280
alright Nisha that's the TP to base alright that's very good news

04:32:17.280 --> 04:32:22.120
for the side of the rejects he's gonna miss a good amount of this wave

04:32:22.120 --> 04:32:25.960
he has to walk all the way back

04:32:25.960 --> 04:32:28.460
with a blink in between.

04:32:28.460 --> 04:32:31.560
I was just going to say, I wonder if he's going to glyph now.

04:32:31.560 --> 04:32:32.260
And he is.

04:32:32.260 --> 04:32:35.460
So this is him trying to buy himself experience.

04:32:35.460 --> 04:32:36.460
He's still losing this whole wave.

04:32:36.460 --> 04:32:38.460
But yeah, he will be too late.

04:32:38.460 --> 04:32:43.960
However, this glyph will make the wave meet here.

04:32:43.960 --> 04:32:46.260
Which is a bigger deal than you might think.

04:32:46.260 --> 04:32:47.760
Now he's in a position against Viper

04:32:47.760 --> 04:32:50.260
where it's harder for Mago to zone him out.

04:32:50.260 --> 04:32:52.860
And he will be able to get at the very least the fly bearer

04:32:52.860 --> 04:32:55.260
Plus, what seems to be another melee creep here?

04:32:59.460 --> 04:33:02.260
Don't want to get into a right-click battle against a Viper.

04:33:02.360 --> 04:33:02.960
No.

04:33:05.460 --> 04:33:08.460
Dark Mago, starting to dominate a bit in this mid lane.

04:33:08.660 --> 04:33:11.260
XP advantage is really the biggest difference at the moment.

04:33:11.260 --> 04:33:11.760
Yeah.

04:33:12.360 --> 04:33:16.860
Yeah, part of the reason why this matchup is so good for Viper is obviously Queen of Pink can't use Shadow Strike,

04:33:16.860 --> 04:33:20.160
because it hurts her too much into the, uh, gross of skin.

04:33:20.160 --> 04:33:26.160
So, you'd have to accept that what makes your hero win lanes is unavailable,

04:33:26.160 --> 04:33:28.560
and by extension you can never really win this one,

04:33:28.560 --> 04:33:31.560
but you can draw if you play very well in terms of farming,

04:33:31.560 --> 04:33:35.160
and probably Viper needs to mess up a little bit as well.

04:33:37.860 --> 04:33:43.560
I mean, Dark Lago seems to be pretty comfortable on a Viper, despite us not seeing it.

04:33:44.060 --> 04:33:46.960
I didn't have my doubts about whether he can play the hero,

04:33:46.960 --> 04:33:55.280
it's more about how does this affect team dynamics. It was the same issue I took with Heroic putting

04:33:55.280 --> 04:33:59.600
Tylong on it as far as many games as they did. He could play the hero in the lane, he was good at

04:33:59.600 --> 04:34:04.960
the mechanics. He's going to try to turn this around onto El Misho, but actually Misha comes in

04:34:04.960 --> 04:34:10.480
for the kill on the El Misho, but unfortunately for Ekki does not get any XP. Ekki died first,

04:34:10.480 --> 04:34:16.000
which is important there also for El Misho himself to work his way toward level four on the

04:34:16.000 --> 04:34:21.520
Phoenix. This bottom lane by the way very easy for Underlord. He had the first blood so he gets

04:34:21.520 --> 04:34:28.080
very quick two bracers and it's just free-laning against Kez. And you would imagine Liquid were

04:34:28.080 --> 04:34:31.760
not surprised at all to see the Kez knowing that he's one of the biggest carries of the patch

04:34:31.760 --> 04:34:36.000
and the enemy team telegraphed him quite a lot by picking Slardar. So they were already kind of

04:34:36.720 --> 04:34:42.960
setting up for the mid-gank. Dark Mago staying alive as Nisha has to blink out

04:34:42.960 --> 04:34:44.960
and now a tough snowball does connect.

04:34:44.960 --> 04:34:45.460
I still die!

04:34:45.460 --> 04:34:52.460
Nisha takes out to the poison attack and now we're seeing the Viper strike onto Tofu, so a big turnaround for the redacks.

04:34:53.460 --> 04:34:55.960
And they're gonna be... and this is night and day difference.

04:34:56.460 --> 04:34:56.960
Game 1.

04:34:56.960 --> 04:34:59.460
This is as many kills as they had last game.

04:34:59.960 --> 04:35:02.460
Wouldn't it... almost wouldn't end it, like minute 30.

04:35:02.460 --> 04:35:02.960
For sure.

04:35:03.460 --> 04:35:03.960
Alright.

04:35:04.960 --> 04:35:07.960
They've got some fight in them, and this time Nisha will be slow to a crawl.

04:35:07.960 --> 04:35:10.460
The other two cores of Liquid are doing great, so...

04:35:10.460 --> 04:35:13.500
And I don't think there's gonna be much stopping them, but at the very least,

04:35:13.500 --> 04:35:16.980
you have Dark Mago online in a good matchup.

04:35:16.980 --> 04:35:20.820
How is this, uh, underlord

04:35:20.820 --> 04:35:24.740
in this game state? I assume you want to go crimson this game, but generally

04:35:24.740 --> 04:35:28.980
speaking, Link, they're gonna dive after it. This would be a huge kill.

04:35:28.980 --> 04:35:33.500
Go for it here as well. Misha goes down to Phoenix.

04:35:33.500 --> 04:35:36.700
They are not letting him play. And that is death.

04:35:36.700 --> 04:35:43.440
Number 2. 50 seconds cooldown on TP. And that's the worst part.

04:35:43.440 --> 04:35:50.440
Meanwhile, Dark Mago, bottom lane, shows up with a Viper Strike onto the level 3 hoodwing. That should be a very easy clean up for him.

04:35:50.440 --> 04:35:54.440
And they're going to try to turn this round with a number advantage onto Ace.

04:35:54.440 --> 04:36:00.440
So he's dead to Rites as well. He's starting to bleed a lot against this Kazurai Katana.

04:36:00.440 --> 04:36:07.740
Shot of poison continues to stack up. They're gonna try to give the kill the widths almost certainly or maybe Dark Maga who gets the double

04:36:08.240 --> 04:36:11.760
He's gonna go for boots of travel first main item. So about on Lord

04:36:12.560 --> 04:36:18.540
What was it you? How is he in this game? You think I assume crimson will have to be purchased this Frank

04:36:18.540 --> 04:36:23.940
It's gonna take a good amount of damage looks to be dead. Power shot finishes the job for Mickey

04:36:23.940 --> 04:36:33.340
Yeah, I think Crimson Pipe, honestly, it's also Ace, so knowing him he loves Aura's more

04:36:33.340 --> 04:36:41.760
than anyone else in the pro scene has been a big part of his success for years now.

04:36:41.760 --> 04:36:47.320
He's been playing these beefy offlaners going Aura's and yeah, I think Crimson's great

04:36:47.320 --> 04:36:52.120
against the starter Kez and the Pipe, I think there's enough merit to it against

04:36:52.120 --> 04:36:54.120
Viper Phoenix, so I wouldn't mind going for it.

04:36:54.120 --> 04:36:57.900
Trying again for this Slardar kill, but Elmisho's here to hold them back a bit.

04:36:57.900 --> 04:37:00.060
Scofield coming in from the other side as well.

04:37:00.060 --> 04:37:04.760
Techie's starting to burn, Shadow Poison's not going to hit there, but still might be able to finish the job.

04:37:04.760 --> 04:37:09.180
Elmisho in the meantime does go down to Mikkei, turning to good ol' fashion brawl.

04:37:09.180 --> 04:37:10.680
Support for support to start.

04:37:11.680 --> 04:37:18.020
And it's Dark Mago though, with the Viper Strike a nice crush, and that is the death of the position one winrunner, Tophu.

04:37:18.020 --> 04:37:23.140
and blocks himself in it happens good attempt but it's not to be so a one for

04:37:23.140 --> 04:37:26.180
three another trade in favor of the rejects

04:37:26.180 --> 04:37:29.940
yeah they're getting a lot done right now with their early rotations the support

04:37:29.940 --> 04:37:36.580
duo is putting in a lot of work scofield 105 elmisha 3 2 and 5 on phoenix

04:37:36.580 --> 04:37:40.260
he's been in eight kills in eight minutes sonic wave nisha really wants this

04:37:40.260 --> 04:37:43.620
kill on the frankin he'll get it

04:37:43.620 --> 04:37:49.200
Finally, Nisha, I was gonna say he's on the board, I think he has two kills now though, yeah.

04:37:49.200 --> 04:37:55.440
This game is okay, all things considered, he's 400 behind Viper, not too bad.

04:37:55.440 --> 04:37:58.700
I'm gonna take some lane tacks up here as well.

04:37:58.700 --> 04:38:03.120
Yeah, surprisingly, Frank is the lowest network of the cores with three deaths, it's a top

04:38:03.120 --> 04:38:04.120
lane.

04:38:04.120 --> 04:38:05.120
Levels are fine though.

04:38:05.120 --> 04:38:06.120
It's a really top lane.

04:38:06.120 --> 04:38:08.640
Slaughtering to Windranger is quite bad.

04:38:08.640 --> 04:38:12.280
Saw that earlier and I forgot which teams we cast where the off lane Slaughtering

04:38:12.280 --> 04:38:14.280
just getting bodied by Windranger.

04:38:14.280 --> 04:38:15.280
That was Spirit.

04:38:16.780 --> 04:38:18.280
What was it, Spirit against...

04:38:18.280 --> 04:38:20.280
That was their stand-in, right?

04:38:20.280 --> 04:38:21.280
Or am I thinking of the Tide game?

04:38:21.280 --> 04:38:22.280
No, I'm thinking of the Tide game.

04:38:22.280 --> 04:38:23.280
We had...

04:38:23.280 --> 04:38:26.280
It might have been Wits on the Windranger, actually, in that game.

04:38:26.280 --> 04:38:27.280
I guess it has.

04:38:27.280 --> 04:38:30.280
Get the Bushwack, and Ace is there to help clean this up.

04:38:30.280 --> 04:38:33.280
The Raptor Dance is cancelled, though.

04:38:33.280 --> 04:38:35.280
Another Firestorm for the road.

04:38:35.280 --> 04:38:36.280
Goes in with the Echo Slash.

04:38:36.280 --> 04:38:38.280
Cannot get the Raptor Dance off, though.

04:38:38.280 --> 04:38:41.280
So, Liquid getting a very valuable kill.

04:38:41.280 --> 04:38:43.280
the most valuable kill they've found so far.

04:38:43.280 --> 04:38:45.280
Maybe kind of slashed this way out.

04:38:45.280 --> 04:38:49.280
Perhaps. I think it would have been close to dying to the Firestorm, but...

04:38:49.280 --> 04:38:53.280
Yep. Another one going the way of ace.

04:38:53.280 --> 04:38:58.280
Super good game for the Underlord, and now, in spite of everything that has happened,

04:38:58.280 --> 04:39:01.280
Liquid almost with the top three net worths, seemingly out of nowhere.

04:39:01.280 --> 04:39:04.280
Now, the big discrepancy is on the supports.

04:39:04.280 --> 04:39:07.280
That's where the rejects are really winning from all this kill bounty.

04:39:07.280 --> 04:39:10.280
Shadow Demon and Phoenix also both level 6 now.

04:39:10.280 --> 04:39:12.960
Almost seven on the Phoenix is a very good sign

04:39:14.440 --> 04:39:17.060
Becky with his best hero gonna miss every spell

04:39:18.200 --> 04:39:22.320
Unfortunate could definitely wait for the pit to set that up. Yeah plenty of time

04:39:25.520 --> 04:39:28.000
Ace not queuing any items up

04:39:29.640 --> 04:39:31.880
He ends up going for the true aura build

04:39:33.060 --> 04:39:37.760
Very tanky right now the double bracer soul ring treads. I'm trying to think what else he would buy

04:39:37.760 --> 04:39:41.160
He's buying at least one aura, right? Otherwise, this is an imposter

04:39:43.200 --> 04:39:46.880
It's got to prove that it's actually him playing I mean there's two builds

04:39:46.880 --> 04:39:50.180
I mean I guess you could do a hybrid, but we've been seeing a lot of ATOS in the AGS

04:39:50.180 --> 04:39:55.700
Which does feel like you need at least the I mean crimson feels necessary. I don't think you need ATOS in this game

04:39:55.940 --> 04:39:59.740
I think you have enough catch between Tuscut, Winka and Windranger Wits

04:40:00.840 --> 04:40:04.580
Get bushwhacked inside of the pit not gonna get the second

04:40:04.580 --> 04:40:09.140
Rufo as Wits gets off the Raptor Dance finally this time and with the

04:40:09.140 --> 04:40:12.940
reinforcements they take out Ekky. And just like in real life the chicken will

04:40:12.940 --> 04:40:15.580
eat the squirrel.

04:40:15.660 --> 04:40:22.900
Sure. Mago? I'm gonna get the right attempt on the illusion rune dark Mago.

04:40:22.900 --> 04:40:27.580
It gets absolutely destroyed. I didn't think that a single site would be enough.

04:40:27.580 --> 04:40:31.860
Focus fire was doing some work there too. But yeah it does I mean obviously

04:40:31.860 --> 04:40:33.580
It's a lot of damage, right? Pure damage.

04:40:33.580 --> 04:40:37.820
This is something that Viper cannot mitigate with anything, except HP.

04:40:37.820 --> 04:40:41.380
That was a killing screen too, so 4-1-4 start for Dark Mago.

04:40:47.060 --> 04:40:47.860
And Micky.

04:40:49.940 --> 04:40:53.460
What is the opting for? It'll be the maelstrom to start into...

04:40:53.460 --> 04:40:54.460
Every game.

04:40:55.460 --> 04:40:57.540
Every game maelstrom, and then after that it is the...

04:40:57.540 --> 04:40:59.260
I don't have a read on this new hags at all.

04:40:59.260 --> 04:40:59.860
Me neither.

04:41:01.860 --> 04:41:05.140
I thought Windranger was going to be less popular than it's been this tournament to be honest

04:41:05.140 --> 04:41:10.920
I thought it was going to feel worse explain explain this to me how it works with the innate and the the eggs

04:41:11.380 --> 04:41:14.900
Right, so when you use an ability you get a stack of tailwind

04:41:14.900 --> 04:41:18.100
So you get move speed whenever you cast a spell and then it stacks

04:41:18.100 --> 04:41:22.860
So you get really fast you can see it in effect right now nice dodge on the shark sure there from

04:41:23.900 --> 04:41:28.280
Frank when you buy eggs you get tailwind from attacks

04:41:28.280 --> 04:41:35.280
So you're just constantly running super fast and the tail end can't be dispelled anymore and it lasts a bit longer.

04:41:35.280 --> 04:41:43.280
So TLDR, you get eggs, you hit stuff, you're hasted and with 600 movespeed and you kind of can't be stopped with anything else that stuns.

04:41:43.280 --> 04:41:50.280
So they find a bird at the top of the cliff here with all alone for the time being, finally Skofield comes to play.

04:41:50.280 --> 04:41:54.280
It's off the demonic perch which is trying to hide in the tree but the acorn shots can give it a little bit of vision.

04:41:54.280 --> 04:42:01.280
Meanwhile, Mikkei, gonna take an egg to the face. We'll have to run out of range as Ekki does get a bush left, but they don't have the damage now.

04:42:01.280 --> 04:42:05.280
As Witz cleans him up easily, Tofu falls as well.

04:42:07.280 --> 04:42:14.280
Really nice how active Witz is getting here with his Kes, but the mage's lair ability wants to fight.

04:42:14.280 --> 04:42:20.280
So gets the job done and returns to farming another successful hit and run if you want to call it that.

04:42:20.280 --> 04:42:26.060
the side of rejects the first time in the game that Kaz is top of the charts to

04:42:26.900 --> 04:42:31.640
A welcome site for the rejects. No doubt. It's gonna go deso next and once again

04:42:31.640 --> 04:42:37.880
The 2k lead is the supports the cores are even so that's the challenge here for the side of liquid is finding impact on

04:42:38.200 --> 04:42:43.080
Tofu as well as ecchi especially tofu when you this poor on tusk as a tusk 5

04:42:43.080 --> 04:42:47.280
It can get quite difficult to it wasn't a toast by the way much done. Oh

04:42:47.280 --> 04:42:54.400
huh that is very surprising me and he still hasn't queued up anything

04:42:54.400 --> 04:43:00.000
additional wait are we overrating crimson after the nerf and considering you're

04:43:00.000 --> 04:43:03.120
playing into all this minus armor like I said not as good as we think it is I

04:43:03.120 --> 04:43:06.600
would have gone for that too I think you're also mean Viper's also right

04:43:06.600 --> 04:43:11.280
clicking no it adds up yeah I don't know pipe would have been decent nerf is

04:43:11.280 --> 04:43:15.960
definitely pretty significant it was an autobind most games at a certain

04:43:15.960 --> 04:43:22.320
point. I mean if ace on underlord is not buying auras, what is going on? It's like

04:43:22.320 --> 04:43:26.560
they're just either broken or terrible. Oh we've seen plenty of pipes this time,

04:43:26.560 --> 04:43:31.740
just not very many crimson's. Yeah. So maybe it got too little, oh too much of a

04:43:31.740 --> 04:43:40.040
the axe. Too much of a cinderant. It was very good, but maybe now. Ato set up into

04:43:40.040 --> 04:43:44.360
the pit. Nisha's here as well, shadows striking the sonic wave into the sharp

04:43:44.360 --> 04:43:48.400
Shooter, that's dead chicken again, so Witz.

04:43:48.400 --> 04:43:50.520
Second death of the game, despite being a top network,

04:43:50.520 --> 04:43:53.240
but very viable kill again for Liquid.

04:43:53.240 --> 04:43:55.360
It's totally alone down there, close to the tower.

04:43:55.360 --> 04:43:58.000
Maybe a little bit too far up.

04:43:58.000 --> 04:44:01.480
Feels like other care players, some of the best in this turn,

04:44:01.480 --> 04:44:02.920
might have maybe not made that mistake.

04:44:02.920 --> 04:44:06.800
Just a little bit too eager, perhaps, to put pressure.

04:44:06.800 --> 04:44:08.280
Given that no teammates are around

04:44:08.280 --> 04:44:09.720
and you have a lot of responsibility

04:44:09.720 --> 04:44:12.080
in a very strong position, pushing out that wave is great,

04:44:12.080 --> 04:44:14.040
and then maybe you could have done some jungle camps

04:44:14.040 --> 04:44:19.240
overstaying your welcome easy to say for us though I could read from liquid

04:44:19.240 --> 04:44:25.120
again in the bot lane be abandoned three TT's come in Nisha is going to be spotted

04:44:25.120 --> 04:44:30.160
with corrosive haze on the way and the bash is there there comes with as well

04:44:30.160 --> 04:44:34.720
this looks to be a dead queen of pain huge kill as he tries to get to the

04:44:34.720 --> 04:44:38.720
high ground but he's just not you had to say that he was this was his best

04:44:38.720 --> 04:44:45.520
hero huh you're welcome he's turned seven not bad seven deaths of 15 minutes is

04:44:45.520 --> 04:44:51.320
quite impressive yeah I didn't say what he was best at yeah best at dying that

04:44:51.320 --> 04:44:56.920
it's his best hero at what hero do you think you died the most on like average

04:44:56.920 --> 04:45:01.960
per game in your career punch because I probably only played it like once or

04:45:01.960 --> 04:45:06.800
twice and I went what oh and 19 in one of them it's not a hero I played much

04:45:06.800 --> 04:45:08.800
Why would you pick it?

04:45:08.800 --> 04:45:11.800
I don't know. I think there was a really good reason for it. We won the game chat.

04:45:11.800 --> 04:45:13.800
It was a good pick.

04:45:13.800 --> 04:45:14.800
I want to see this replay.

04:45:14.800 --> 04:45:17.800
I was front-lining a lot. I absorbed a lot of damage. That's how the hero works.

04:45:17.800 --> 04:45:18.800
I didn't really get at that.

04:45:18.800 --> 04:45:19.800
That's right.

04:45:20.800 --> 04:45:22.800
He wouldn't understand. It's okay.

04:45:22.800 --> 04:45:23.800
Just go field.

04:45:24.800 --> 04:45:27.800
The snowball disappears into the Netherrealm.

04:45:27.800 --> 04:45:29.800
Go field's gonna get punched.

04:45:29.800 --> 04:45:33.800
Rot down. Frank trying to take some sort of consolation. Nice shards though.

04:45:33.800 --> 04:45:42.800
Dark Mogli, using the Viper Strike as well, his attack range is insane, of course with that vision from Coros of Haze, ends up netting in the trade.

04:45:42.800 --> 04:45:53.800
This is range with poison attack. 730 plus 130, right? Yeah, that's pretty damn far.

04:45:53.800 --> 04:45:57.800
Whits, thinking about it again.

04:45:57.800 --> 04:46:01.800
We're gonna try for it. Atos a little bit too slow.

04:46:01.800 --> 04:46:04.800
Gonna get Sharp Shooter, now the TP from Skofill.

04:46:04.800 --> 04:46:08.800
Gonna get demonic purge onto Ekky and Dark Mago with the boots of travel and joins the party.

04:46:08.800 --> 04:46:10.800
This is death number eight for the Squirrel.

04:46:10.800 --> 04:46:13.800
Sonic Wave completely misses. Raptor Dance will as well.

04:46:13.800 --> 04:46:15.800
Symphony of Sausage.

04:46:15.800 --> 04:46:16.800
Yep.

04:46:16.800 --> 04:46:19.800
Of course, Nisha's Sonic Wave was blind.

04:46:19.800 --> 04:46:21.800
He has an excuse.

04:46:23.800 --> 04:46:25.800
Ekky...

04:46:25.800 --> 04:46:29.220
Might want to get a point in Skurry.

04:46:29.220 --> 04:46:33.540
I think this 3-4-0 build might not be the right idea this game.

04:46:33.540 --> 04:46:38.180
I think when you're snowballing the lane and things are going very well, it's good, but

04:46:38.180 --> 04:46:44.260
just a 2-4-1 perhaps could have saved this.

04:46:44.260 --> 04:46:46.940
Like if that singular skill point could have saved him in two of the situations, there's

04:46:46.940 --> 04:46:47.940
a really high value, right?

04:46:47.940 --> 04:46:50.620
I genuinely think he could have maybe lived.

04:46:50.620 --> 04:46:56.180
We show big dive on the three heroes, just for fun.

04:46:56.180 --> 04:47:00.660
Tofu somehow has a dagger, out of nowhere.

04:47:00.660 --> 04:47:02.180
Try for the blink punch on the...

04:47:02.180 --> 04:47:04.180
Net worth is a lot more respectful now.

04:47:04.180 --> 04:47:05.500
Yeah, this looks okay.

04:47:05.500 --> 04:47:07.020
He's on par with the Shattered Demon.

04:47:07.020 --> 04:47:08.540
Heck yeah, on the other hand.

04:47:08.540 --> 04:47:11.260
Eight deaths will put you into poverty there.

04:47:11.260 --> 04:47:14.420
He has a wizard hat though, and he has a forager's kit.

04:47:14.420 --> 04:47:17.180
When he was dying, he dug out a bag of gold, so...

04:47:17.180 --> 04:47:18.180
Hype.

04:47:18.180 --> 04:47:19.180
This will change everything.

04:47:19.180 --> 04:47:20.940
Pick up the gold or is it automatic?

04:47:20.940 --> 04:47:22.580
I think it's automatic.

04:47:22.580 --> 04:47:23.420
That's unfortunate.

04:47:23.420 --> 04:47:24.980
I'm actually unsure now that you say it.

04:47:24.980 --> 04:47:27.140
Oh, he has found Kaz.

04:47:27.140 --> 04:47:29.580
Nisha, you're going to get bashed up with the Viper Strike

04:47:29.580 --> 04:47:32.300
in the blink away.

04:47:32.300 --> 04:47:34.340
Nice pit to try to slow this down,

04:47:34.340 --> 04:47:37.660
but it's not going to be enough.

04:47:37.660 --> 04:47:41.140
Nice disruption as well to stop this focus fire action.

04:47:41.140 --> 04:47:42.940
And they're not able to really turn this around

04:47:42.940 --> 04:47:43.660
onto anything.

04:47:43.660 --> 04:47:46.900
Meanwhile, El Misho, fighting a lot of cover.

04:47:46.900 --> 04:47:48.420
Ekki dies again.

04:47:48.420 --> 04:47:50.820
But the egg is destroyed by Mickey.

04:47:51.820 --> 04:47:53.920
Now he has to run away. Very little man to work with.

04:47:53.920 --> 04:47:55.920
Wits, are you actually diving this?

04:47:55.920 --> 04:47:59.920
Grappling claw? He gets stunned up, pops the wand.

04:47:59.920 --> 04:48:02.920
He's in a lot of trouble now. Parry's off a little bit.

04:48:02.920 --> 04:48:05.920
Now they are going to end up getting the windrunner.

04:48:05.920 --> 04:48:07.920
The power shot just misses in the end.

04:48:07.920 --> 04:48:10.920
Triple kill for Darkmongo. They are diving base.

04:48:11.920 --> 04:48:14.420
That's a full team wipe for the rejects.

04:48:14.420 --> 04:48:17.920
That was sick from Wits actually recognizing that that is even a play to begin with

04:48:17.920 --> 04:48:23.880
very very nice. Nets them but bonus two kills liquid or like what's this guy doing?

04:48:23.880 --> 04:48:28.640
It was pretty clear that they thought he was overstepping but near the limits

04:48:28.640 --> 04:48:33.680
gets a good parry when he's low gets to reset and slaughter on Viper. Clean it up.

04:48:33.680 --> 04:48:39.200
Of course as we all expected Dark Mago on this Viper is now 11, 1 and 6.

04:48:39.200 --> 04:48:41.200
feasting it up

04:48:43.000 --> 04:48:45.000
They were just pretending

04:48:46.000 --> 04:48:55.060
As we come back into live a crush comes up and Frank his reign will end he has been hounding liquid players for quite a while

04:48:58.360 --> 04:49:01.520
Wonder if Dark Mago is gonna buy MKB here

04:49:02.640 --> 04:49:04.960
Not exactly an item you see very often on Viper

04:49:04.960 --> 04:49:09.600
but he is going the right-click style, and it feels like if he can deal with Windranger,

04:49:09.600 --> 04:49:11.800
this game looks very, very good.

04:49:11.800 --> 04:49:17.200
That's still the primary problem later down the line is, if Miki gets really farmed, he

04:49:17.200 --> 04:49:18.760
can probably just kill Kez.

04:49:18.760 --> 04:49:22.720
It's a bad matchup for Kez in overall, I would say.

04:49:22.720 --> 04:49:27.280
Kez can also buy MKB to try to offset it, but generally speaking, Windranger's really

04:49:27.280 --> 04:49:28.280
high movement could...

04:49:28.280 --> 04:49:34.400
It's one of the few heroes that can actually outrun Kez in a fight, so might play to

04:49:34.400 --> 04:49:39.460
his advantage we'll see though like mago this would be a huge find he is mega

04:49:39.460 --> 04:49:42.160
high net worth

04:49:42.820 --> 04:49:47.160
and they're gonna jump them not sure they're gonna TP because they are going

04:49:47.160 --> 04:49:52.600
for the old tourney here but yeah that's a 7k or 7x kill streak and

04:49:52.600 --> 04:49:57.080
Mickey's the one to get the bounty yeah wits will get a shard though for his

04:49:57.080 --> 04:50:03.320
troubles yeah you saw Mickey swap away by the way from the eggs into the

04:50:03.320 --> 04:50:09.160
man to first recognizing there's just too much trouble against the corrosive

04:50:09.160 --> 04:50:15.080
haze this also gives him a potential disjoint of the viper strike

04:50:16.200 --> 04:50:22.800
now homisha will finish a pipe here on the phoenix interesting choice I mean

04:50:22.800 --> 04:50:28.120
it's a quap axe I suppose the timing lines up nicely so I take it back we've

04:50:28.120 --> 04:50:31.640
just mostly been seeing phoenixes go for solar first and it's a really good

04:50:31.640 --> 04:50:37.560
solar game, considering you've got Kez and Slardar, but he values the pipe higher and

04:50:37.560 --> 04:50:41.960
that just says to me that they want a teamfight and they want QWAP to not obliterate everyone,

04:50:41.960 --> 04:50:44.840
so must be the line of thinking here.

04:50:44.840 --> 04:50:47.440
And now he is going to go Crimson, interesting.

04:50:47.440 --> 04:50:51.320
El Misho on the Phoenix wants to buy it.

04:50:51.320 --> 04:50:54.120
Oh, okay.

04:50:54.120 --> 04:50:56.120
Uh oh.

04:50:56.120 --> 04:50:58.120
Uh oh.

04:50:58.120 --> 04:51:03.120
Uh-oh. Uh-oh, Spaghetti-O.

04:51:03.120 --> 04:51:07.120
Eki? Wow, that's crazy what Scurry can do for you.

04:51:07.120 --> 04:51:10.120
Yeah, and he's giving it to Dovon though, on Michele.

04:51:10.120 --> 04:51:12.120
We'll find the aces nearby.

04:51:12.120 --> 04:51:17.120
Sunray comes out, Eki burning away, and another death to his name.

04:51:17.120 --> 04:51:20.120
Now he's double digits.

04:51:20.120 --> 04:51:24.120
It's a shame that when he finally gets to use Scurry to escape, it's in the one situation.

04:51:24.120 --> 04:51:26.780
It's gonna be a huge kill. We're gonna try to turn this around to Frank

04:51:26.780 --> 04:51:32.260
That's an easy one, but make they might be the price no ball inside wins with the Raptor dance doing quite a bit of damage

04:51:32.260 --> 04:51:38.000
They take out the win runner an ace left alone trying to go through the dark with good luck, sir

04:51:38.620 --> 04:51:40.620
Ace is not tanky

04:51:40.700 --> 04:51:45.260
I don't know why yeah, it's just it feels weird to say it out loud

04:51:45.260 --> 04:51:51.460
He's playing underlord and he's not tanky, but he's playing into starter and Kaz and he has no auras and no lotus

04:51:54.120 --> 04:51:57.060
Can't help but feel like this ATOS hasn't really done the much good here

04:51:58.880 --> 04:52:01.940
Either or is there a Lotus orb would have been my preferred version, but

04:52:03.120 --> 04:52:06.120
See if they can get some nice combos going with it later, but so far

04:52:07.000 --> 04:52:11.960
Totally it's so fascinating and like we was talking about the South American rejects team. It's just seemingly

04:52:12.800 --> 04:52:16.120
Very inconsistent both in the best and in the worst way

04:52:16.120 --> 04:52:21.480
Yeah, they have games like this where it just looks like wow these guys could you know get a top three placement

04:52:21.480 --> 04:52:23.480
And you have game one, it's like...

04:52:23.480 --> 04:52:26.480
Why are they even here?

04:52:26.480 --> 04:52:35.480
It's quite strange. Generally speaking, teams that are that inconsistent don't get all the way to the top, so if they can somehow iron out those...

04:52:35.480 --> 04:52:39.480
like the lowest portion of their games, or at least make them more competitive.

04:52:39.480 --> 04:52:40.480
Raise the floor.

04:52:40.480 --> 04:52:44.480
Raise the floor, indeed. And of course, if they win, they're gonna raise the roof.

04:52:45.480 --> 04:52:47.480
They'll raise something, that's for sure.

04:52:47.480 --> 04:52:49.480
Okay, not gonna get more into that.

04:52:51.480 --> 04:52:55.180
Okay, a thousand away from Agz.

04:52:55.180 --> 04:53:00.180
So just movespeed.

04:53:00.180 --> 04:53:04.180
I mean, it's undispellable.

04:53:04.180 --> 04:53:06.180
Tailwind.

04:53:06.180 --> 04:53:10.180
Which is, you know, it's a lot of movespeed.

04:53:10.180 --> 04:53:12.180
And it's just an interesting one.

04:53:12.180 --> 04:53:15.180
Yeah, usually you don't see Agz that are very one-dimensional.

04:53:15.180 --> 04:53:17.180
No, that's true.

04:53:17.180 --> 04:53:19.180
So this max movespeed currently is 640.

04:53:19.180 --> 04:53:21.180
I'll scan it.

04:53:26.180 --> 04:53:27.180
Very fast.

04:53:27.180 --> 04:53:33.180
Dark Maga right now with a Manta, Hurricane Pike, and not that far away from BKB.

04:53:33.180 --> 04:53:35.180
Great BKB game.

04:53:35.180 --> 04:53:37.180
Damage mitigation against Windrangers.

04:53:37.180 --> 04:53:40.180
Frank's got his BKB on the way as well.

04:53:40.180 --> 04:53:43.180
Lots of mitigation against Queen, Hoodwank, Undalord.

04:53:43.180 --> 04:53:47.180
Yeah, he's going Lotus now on Ace, understandably.

04:53:47.180 --> 04:53:54.180
Okay, Sharpshooter is going to give him a little extra distance, but there's a sluggar

04:53:54.180 --> 04:53:57.180
in the game.

04:53:57.180 --> 04:54:02.180
Now Bloodstone picked up for Nisha, so a lot of big items from both sides.

04:54:02.180 --> 04:54:05.180
Ike, I heard you talking about my Pudge.

04:54:05.180 --> 04:54:08.180
Yeah, but I promise he has two kills.

04:54:08.180 --> 04:54:10.180
He is paying, what's it called, Homage?

04:54:10.180 --> 04:54:13.180
Slack said he's paying Homage to my...

04:54:13.180 --> 04:54:16.180
That's right.

04:54:16.180 --> 04:54:19.180
Maybe he's been watching a bit too much Simpsons lately.

04:54:19.180 --> 04:54:21.180
Good one.

04:54:21.180 --> 04:54:25.180
Who in the Dota scene would most resemble Homer?

04:54:25.180 --> 04:54:28.180
Oh, it's good to have the jack-o'-lanterns.

04:54:28.180 --> 04:54:30.180
So who's gonna pay the price?

04:54:30.180 --> 04:54:31.180
It's not gonna happen.

04:54:31.180 --> 04:54:36.180
Liquid, same type of moves that they were making in game one.

04:54:36.180 --> 04:54:40.180
Just another 9k deficit, feeling totally different.

04:54:40.180 --> 04:54:42.180
Yeah.

04:54:42.180 --> 04:54:45.180
Oh, it's easier to play when you're winning. Who would have thought?

04:54:49.180 --> 04:54:51.180
Homer Simpson slacks.

04:54:51.180 --> 04:54:52.180
Is it?

04:54:52.180 --> 04:54:53.180
I think so.

04:54:55.180 --> 04:54:56.180
Who else would it be?

04:54:56.180 --> 04:54:57.180
I don't know.

04:54:59.180 --> 04:55:02.180
Jenkins is, uh, I would be the grandpa, I think.

04:55:05.180 --> 04:55:06.180
Who's Maggie?

04:55:07.180 --> 04:55:09.180
Slacks as well.

04:55:09.180 --> 04:55:15.380
He's also Pyke-Kwiz, he's also Marge, kind of crazy.

04:55:15.380 --> 04:55:20.220
So much depth to this character, yeah he could just be anyone.

04:55:20.220 --> 04:55:23.780
And this is what I was going to mention, Roche, I feel like they could have potentially gone

04:55:23.780 --> 04:55:28.100
for this earlier as well, but they have the lineup to take this, especially with

04:55:28.100 --> 04:55:29.100
an amp.

04:55:29.100 --> 04:55:34.220
Oh it's not even amp damage on Kiz, it just looked like it, it's just a Dark

04:55:34.220 --> 04:55:36.220
Mago

04:55:36.800 --> 04:55:43.720
Was Viper the secret all along Shannon was it the secret sauce that's what they need very stable

04:55:45.960 --> 04:55:47.960
We'll see how it scales though

04:55:49.120 --> 04:55:51.400
We've seen a drop off before yep

04:55:53.760 --> 04:56:02.240
Last game that it dominated was Amar today, and he was gifted to Ag's so not fair comparison

04:56:04.220 --> 04:56:08.220
So, just a recipe away for Dark Mago's DKB.

04:56:08.220 --> 04:56:13.220
It's about to hit level 20 as well, for one of the most

04:56:13.220 --> 04:56:15.220
underwhelming talents in the entire game.

04:56:15.220 --> 04:56:18.220
Predator damage per Missing Health. It used to be worse than this.

04:56:18.220 --> 04:56:20.220
It's still not very good.

04:56:20.220 --> 04:56:24.220
See if he takes that, or if he takes the Viper Strike DPS.

04:56:24.220 --> 04:56:29.220
Skullfield, nice blink disruption. Wits gonna try to connect.

04:56:29.220 --> 04:56:31.220
They're getting across. Man, that's easy.

04:56:31.220 --> 04:56:33.220
Yes, this is

04:56:34.620 --> 04:56:37.180
Should be saying this more often surely yeah

04:56:37.700 --> 04:56:43.120
Like the our experience watching Kez slaughter as wins might just continue at this rate

04:56:44.260 --> 04:56:48.640
Whenever this duo is ahead you've corrosive haze someone and kez gets on them

04:56:48.640 --> 04:56:53.520
They just died in the blink of an eye and eventually if the game goes late you can never get rid of the haze anymore

04:56:54.440 --> 04:56:56.600
Just takes the left talent on 25

04:56:57.560 --> 04:57:00.640
Hey, see how tank you are GPS check

04:57:01.220 --> 04:57:05.700
Pops the Lotus and dies within two seconds.

04:57:07.960 --> 04:57:09.800
Anisha, he wants to play though.

04:57:09.800 --> 04:57:13.360
I've seen this before as Frank has been hounding him for quite a while.

04:57:13.800 --> 04:57:16.160
Meanwhile, Witt's finding a tusk on the high ground.

04:57:17.120 --> 04:57:21.120
Snowball gonna keep him alive for the time being, but one more right-click will do it.

04:57:21.120 --> 04:57:26.980
Double kill for Chicken Man, and Ekky wants to die a twelfth time this game and they will oblige.

04:57:26.980 --> 04:57:35.580
4 dead, and this was all disjointed too. None of this was connected at all.

04:57:35.580 --> 04:57:37.180
No, they're just getting run over.

04:57:37.180 --> 04:57:40.180
Hey, there is a crimson in the game, but it's the opposite team, Almecio.

04:57:40.180 --> 04:57:49.380
Phoenix got it now. I mean, it's just, it's fascinating how this is possible when you think about it, right?

04:57:49.380 --> 04:57:54.580
Like, that one team can look so completely lost in one game, and other can look unbelievably dominant.

04:57:54.580 --> 04:58:02.060
And it's not, I wouldn't say it's massively draft-related in the same way that you,

04:58:02.060 --> 04:58:06.460
I guess I'll like, okay, the Drafting Game 1 from Rejects was just terrible,

04:58:06.460 --> 04:58:11.220
they didn't stand a chance, etc. Because I thought they had pretty good tools that game as well,

04:58:11.220 --> 04:58:15.540
just didn't really work out. This time a couple things go their way and it's like watching,

04:58:15.540 --> 04:58:23.420
I don't even know, like a different tier of team even. Unfold in front of,

04:58:23.420 --> 04:58:25.940
Our very eyes this the BKB now on Kez

04:58:28.980 --> 04:58:32.060
Liquid what are you going to do?

04:58:35.340 --> 04:58:37.340
Every fight when Windranger

04:58:37.380 --> 04:58:41.980
Gets demonic purged. She's gonna be in mess of trouble. She kind of can't let that happen

04:58:44.820 --> 04:58:48.020
You know the blink dagger on Skofield it's hard to avoid

04:58:48.020 --> 04:58:56.420
I'm trying to reclaim their triangle as Almeysho, showing himself, will die.

04:58:56.420 --> 04:58:59.020
Crimson Guard is not going to save you against a 1 vs 5.

04:58:59.020 --> 04:59:02.420
They did not have anybody near, but that was a little bit surprising that if you want to

04:59:02.420 --> 04:59:07.260
take that ward or that high ground, I get it.

04:59:07.260 --> 04:59:09.820
Probably bring some teammates over or let the Aegis guy hit it.

04:59:09.820 --> 04:59:12.820
You have a Viper with Aegis with a minute and a half left on it.

04:59:12.820 --> 04:59:15.900
I feel like that could have been the guy de-warding and just being in front.

04:59:15.900 --> 04:59:19.480
You want Liquid to go on Dark Mago. It's the best possible fight.

04:59:20.760 --> 04:59:23.560
It's that they're going to bleed out in Phoenix, not the end of the world, right?

04:59:23.960 --> 04:59:27.960
They find Frank, they're going to force out the BKB. Sonic Wave actually used onto Frank.

04:59:27.960 --> 04:59:29.440
Very aggressive, Misha.

04:59:29.440 --> 04:59:30.480
They're not getting that kill.

04:59:30.480 --> 04:59:34.280
Kez, in the meantime trying to get initiated. He's actually going to get stun locked though.

04:59:34.280 --> 04:59:36.600
Focus fire on him, and that is a dead Kez.

04:59:37.200 --> 04:59:39.560
Out of nowhere, the Shackle shot connecting for Mickey.

04:59:39.560 --> 04:59:42.120
He's going to pay the punishment though as Dark Mago with the shield who's there,

04:59:42.120 --> 04:59:43.920
along with Frank to double team him.

04:59:43.920 --> 04:59:49.640
Let's go fill inside the pit, that's three dead now for the rejects, although Phoenix just respawned.

04:59:49.640 --> 04:59:54.760
Now he's taking the right clicks, uses the ATOS on the Viper, slowing him down with the pit of Malice,

04:59:54.760 --> 05:00:00.000
into the bushwhack, into the sharpshooter, a lot of damage onto the slaughter, but Frank gets taken out by Nisha first,

05:00:00.000 --> 05:00:07.920
getting saved with the snowball, and somehow he gets out. Tofu not going to be so lucky, but a very good fight for Liquid overall.

05:00:07.920 --> 05:00:10.200
Yeah, that was a 4 or 5k gold swing.

05:00:10.760 --> 05:00:14.680
All of a sudden, a complete misjudgment from Wits.

05:00:14.680 --> 05:00:15.680
That shackled out of nowhere.

05:00:15.680 --> 05:00:18.560
That shackled very quickly. He has the tools to prevent this.

05:00:18.560 --> 05:00:20.960
He could have BKB'd immediately after going in,

05:00:20.960 --> 05:00:24.160
but wasn't anticipating getting countered that quickly by Mikkei.

05:00:24.160 --> 05:00:28.440
But Mikkei knows his Kez, so he knows how to counter his Kez.

05:00:29.960 --> 05:00:32.360
He was on top of that immediately.

05:00:32.360 --> 05:00:33.520
Let's see the replay here.

05:00:33.520 --> 05:00:38.240
So, this shackle, almost instantaneous also the blink punch.

05:00:41.200 --> 05:00:43.820
Pretty big for Liquid, keeping Hope alive.

05:00:44.640 --> 05:00:47.320
And he, keeping his streak alive, two and thirteen.

05:00:48.560 --> 05:00:50.900
All right, how many deaths do you think?

05:00:50.900 --> 05:00:52.400
Do you want to do an over under or what?

05:00:52.400 --> 05:00:54.400
Let's do an over under.

05:00:55.400 --> 05:00:58.060
Over under 18.

05:00:58.060 --> 05:00:59.500
And that's what I was thinking, too.

05:00:59.500 --> 05:01:00.340
Yeah.

05:01:00.340 --> 05:01:09.100
I'm gonna say under okay, I'll say over wait if you say so what happens is exactly 18 then we both win

05:01:09.100 --> 05:01:17.280
We're really good. Okay, you agree with that most people like I mean I will say 19 plus deaths is super rare super super

05:01:19.460 --> 05:01:21.460
It's not very proud of my 19

05:01:23.620 --> 05:01:25.620
Facing that off of your Pudge game

05:01:26.860 --> 05:01:29.380
It was a different time it's changed a lot

05:01:30.340 --> 05:01:36.100
Well, Torment, Phoenix, that's nice.

05:01:36.100 --> 05:01:38.940
Yeah, that's always a very quality of life.

05:01:38.940 --> 05:01:40.240
I mean, it was guaranteed actually.

05:01:40.240 --> 05:01:41.740
It looks like all five of them have shards.

05:01:41.740 --> 05:01:44.700
This kind of brings the gold back to where it was before the fight.

05:01:44.700 --> 05:01:45.700
13K lead.

05:01:45.700 --> 05:01:50.460
On the right-hand side, Tusk with the punch, and Focus Fire, quick kill.

05:01:50.460 --> 05:01:52.420
Now, Amisha goes in with the Crimson Guard.

05:01:52.420 --> 05:01:55.900
It's going to cost the Tusk his life, attempting to TP, burst to the ground

05:01:55.900 --> 05:01:57.860
just before he enters his base.

05:01:57.860 --> 05:01:59.860
That guy's on the hump here.

05:01:59.860 --> 05:02:00.860
Fiendscape.

05:02:00.860 --> 05:02:02.860
We'll go through it.

05:02:02.860 --> 05:02:05.860
There's the Pit of Malice, the buyback coming out from the Shadow Demon.

05:02:05.860 --> 05:02:08.860
The Egg is placed though, and now the Disengage from Liquid.

05:02:08.860 --> 05:02:13.860
They forced out a buyback and they smoke up, but they're corrosive haze right now, so...

05:02:13.860 --> 05:02:15.860
They know they're smoked.

05:02:18.860 --> 05:02:21.860
Now an Agon accepted for Frank, so it'll be a lot tougher to kill.

05:02:21.860 --> 05:02:23.860
Oh, Anisha just blinked into the wave.

05:02:23.860 --> 05:02:28.220
Yeah, it gets disrupted. Wits in the area with the Echo Slash.

05:02:28.620 --> 05:02:34.200
He's gonna pop the BKB early this time, just like Cinder and Wannan, and that is a very squishy ace.

05:02:35.660 --> 05:02:37.660
As Nisha is gonna have to blink away.

05:02:40.000 --> 05:02:42.800
Underlord, not able to take much of a punishment right now.

05:02:42.800 --> 05:02:43.300
No.

05:02:46.300 --> 05:02:47.300
Needs more beef.

05:02:47.620 --> 05:02:49.620
I wonder what the best item to buy here is.

05:02:50.580 --> 05:02:51.280
For Underlord.

05:02:51.280 --> 05:02:54.280
Like AC comes to mind, Sheeva's...

05:02:56.280 --> 05:03:03.280
It seems tough to find the right defensive build to get you out of the situation.

05:03:03.280 --> 05:03:08.280
The fact that the answer to that question is never hard to this early, it makes me sad.

05:03:08.280 --> 05:03:09.280
Yeah.

05:03:09.280 --> 05:03:10.280
It feels like a luxury.

05:03:10.280 --> 05:03:11.280
He dies too fast.

05:03:11.280 --> 05:03:12.280
A fifth, sixth item.

05:03:12.280 --> 05:03:15.280
You can't really leverage the region when you die in four seconds.

05:03:15.280 --> 05:03:17.280
It doesn't really do that much.

05:03:17.280 --> 05:03:20.280
He has crimps, I think.

05:03:20.280 --> 05:03:23.280
Still feel it's going to be spotted.

05:03:23.280 --> 05:03:26.280
He's actually going to be a sharp shooter and killed off.

05:03:26.280 --> 05:03:28.280
Nisha gets the credit for that one.

05:03:28.280 --> 05:03:30.280
A dive back, right?

05:03:30.280 --> 05:03:32.280
Yeah, I think so, actually.

05:03:32.280 --> 05:03:36.280
A lot of long-range poke here from Liquid, so not needing to put themselves in weird spots.

05:03:36.280 --> 05:03:38.280
This is actually kind of a big deal.

05:03:38.280 --> 05:03:41.280
This is a 1 minute 5v4 with Roche spawning.

05:03:41.280 --> 05:03:45.280
If Liquid were to find the right move and they could get themselves an Aegis, that would be absolutely huge.

05:03:45.280 --> 05:03:50.380
huge not so much for them to have it but for the other side to not get the second

05:03:50.380 --> 05:03:56.800
one. The freejacks could get their hands on that on Viper again. Dark Magus almost

05:03:56.800 --> 05:04:04.080
level 25 he's so far. He's usually unreal how rich this guy is on Viper.

05:04:05.200 --> 05:04:09.760
What do you take? It makes sense that he's this first game of the tournament

05:04:09.760 --> 05:04:13.300
on the hero when he's having one of his best performances. You want to save

05:04:13.300 --> 05:04:14.300
that for now.

05:04:14.300 --> 05:04:20.300
Well despite only having four, yeah they're going to get rushed, uncontested.

05:04:20.300 --> 05:04:23.300
Um, yeah, what 25 top does it take?

05:04:23.300 --> 05:04:26.300
I mean I'm guessing it'll take the left.

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The CDR.

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Half cooldown on Viper Strike is pretty good, down to 15.

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The right one is better when you're playing X.

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That looks it, but comparatively.

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We'll see though.

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Ace, he finishes Gleipnir.

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Yeah, I was entertaining the idea of going disc but he can't do that either because they're shattered even and when he is the

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Target the purge is very reliably gonna land so it's gonna go BKB

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Against haze and kez and vipers. I mean, it's just it's just a tough game for him right now at this point

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That was in spite of having a good laning stage

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Really doesn't have

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Any obvious build look at El Misha's build by the way. Oh orchid to know this is

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Take a picture of this that could one the onwards and what a hero is that yeah, that's pretty crazy

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Yeah, he is super duper far

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14k net worth on the Phoenix

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That is close to slardar territory

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Amisha, continue with the Shadow Strikes on the dark mago.

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Once they have that Aegis for less than four minutes.

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Just non-stop poking, trying to delay, hold this engage from the side of rejects.

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Give some breathing room here for the liquid boys.

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Now, Miki will finish Mjolnir if he wants to, if he wants to buy it back, looks to be the

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case, fully committed, and Daedalus will be next for him, so all out in the damage department.

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It's very clear what the plan is from him.

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He needs to isolate and kill either Viper or Kez, and he can do that via Shackle Shot

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or blink punch and some sort of hoodwink combination obviously breaking viper will always be an

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option they have.

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That is an inventory, a heart on Dark Lord right now.

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And there's the Daedalus for Wits, so pretty big power spikes for rejects, they're very

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strong right now.

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getting some deep vision perhaps for a smoke to come they're gonna be fighting

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in their base though he shows up the pit of malice is enormous now but they place

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the roaches banner bush whack shadow strike span but with that sharp dark

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Mago just cleans that up easily. Still ages for two minutes. Can Liquid even defend this?

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This is such a good heart.

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You get pushback again. Focus fire. Try to get life number one. Crimson Guard applied.

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Hit the punch as well. Has a lot of distance on the focus fire.

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Destruction comes out. Sonic wave to finish the job. That's life number one. Now what for

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Liquid? Frank gets a nice crush onto two. No follow-up though. Inside,

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that's to pop the BKB to get out of the pit. This pit's actually proving to be quite an

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issue for the rejects. Shatter strikes continue to rain from above. Shatter them in a lot of

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trouble. Skullfield will die to Mickey as Topu. Every four steps to the other side. Look at

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actually defending here. It's so hard to have these pits of malice are just enormous. Very

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hard to navigate the fights and that was a solid hold. I love the heart from Dark

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Mago. You could see just how much it did in that fight regenerating him up but poking

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and prodding, Liquid eventually breaks through it, begs the question if Rejects should have

05:08:22.460 --> 05:08:27.500
been a little bit more eager in that instance, just when the tower fell to start diving into

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the base, pressuring the backline, not allowing Liquid to non-stop spam out, but it is hard

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when the pit of Malice takes up half the screen, I understand that, and now this doesn't

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really affect the lead all that much, but it might affect the read on the game

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that rejects have now the concern for me is that they start falling into their

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uh-oh we're going to farm mode

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and not press the advantage that they still have

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liquid on the hunt

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they are doing that work their advantage

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opposite of that they want to be the ones pressuring

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and we'll find any kills here

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well there was no stuns nearby so it was fine either way

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Nisha about to if he wants to bypass buyback will have octarene and mckday dataless of

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The big items coming out a still working at BKB about 1300 away. Nisha hits 25 as well. So he has the blink talents

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Lot more ability doesn't have the shard to go with it though. So we can't have that low cooldown silence

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They might buy that after his octarene

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Is that low as well

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What's up? Oh

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Wait what?

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If he has the 25 town and then gets an octarin Oh for the octarin, yeah

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Switched it up to BKV though

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It's just generally when we see people get the shard on Queen they like having it together with

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Octarin

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Understandably if you want to use it offensive for the silence you want to be able to get out again soon soon after

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There's the BKV

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Nullifier on Slardar. What are we removing here? Ghost scepter for tofu

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Windrun

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I thought that was

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It's the tailwind. That's not the spell

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Which does mean when your nullifier is still super fast though. Yeah, okay

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Looking for an opening by professor replied to tofu

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There's the fashion on the nation hops the BKB a little bit early snowball to delay make a

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Fighting the top side of this green tofu isolated now big sonic wave comes out onto which with the focus fire as well

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He cannot get off Raptor dance. He is dead to rise and that's only one kill for the rejects

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And they have to run away in shame

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And liquid trying to chase shadow strikes will continue to ran from Nisha to get the bushwhack from a cake

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Missing the pit of malice though. There's the Glyph near forcing the BKB now to dark mogul as Frank crushes the ground in frustration

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Frustration, what's the gross of haze on to the windrunner? He's just gonna die Mickey just gets right click down very casually

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It's another turning this around without having kez

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Is it MKB or something no

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And the Viper strike that's gonna put the fight to an end so that's great when we're looking good

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But yeah, it's actually crazy that they couldn't get more than those two kills when they chased I thought for sure

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Maybe they will get Frank

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TP! He's okay.

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He'll explode in the base, but he'll heal first.

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Even by his affair, okay, that was very safe, Frank.

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You're...

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This is exploding in when you have over 1500 health.

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Panic.

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Playing it safer than safe.

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And Mikkei, not...

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Realizing the power that is Dark Muggle right now.

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So you're gonna see the replay. There's a lot going on at once.

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This fight is very fragmented.

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They start opening up on the quad,

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but she gets BKB off and resets and gets out. Tusk is now snowballing down to the bottom left, but again, the Kez

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Witz is getting caught and getting killed way too quickly in these instances, has to play...

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I feel like there's a little bit of a disconnect in the way

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rejects are approaching these fights. Fortunately, Mago is such an unbelievably fond beast that they can compensate for now.

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I think he used the windrun kind of boarded, Mago.

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That is correct.

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good captions that was how he died to Viper later down I like how now we're

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42 minutes in well 43 and live and crimson guard is finally that's kind of

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weird to see yeah and there's the MKB for dark model and he is I mean how do

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you get stronger than this 17 and 2 what a beastly freaking oh he sounds like 10

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to grow ready to get eggs and moonshard so but as far as the inventory goes I don't

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really know what you're placed now I think you need all of these six items the

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heart is debatable maybe there's a world where you replace that for say AC but I

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don't think so I actually think it's really good for him to have it here and

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the AC should go in the slaughter which is the plan speaking of slaughter he

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has the talent shot trying to bake the room they do so successfully Frank

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Pops the BKB, actually no, he takes the rune, I didn't realize that.

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Not gonna be that effective on him, his darkmongo stuck inside the shores.

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Pops the Manta, he is something fearsome though. Attempting to BKB TP, he's okay.

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Questions, can the rest of the lineup get out? Elmisho on the run.

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Schofield gonna use the cleanse onto Frank, no balls gonna hit.

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Sonic wave to follow, trying to kill off the egg, they're gonna get it just in time.

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Does not pop. Meanwhile the bash is gonna hit onto the Queen of Pain.

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Raptor Dance not going to do too much as the Shadow Game is going to die.

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Three dead in fact, including the Kez.

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As the TP out for the QAP, successful.

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So Liquid, every time they're down and out, they win a fight handily.

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Kez is just getting wiped out.

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Yeah, there's been zero impact of Kez.

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He's just non-stop getting killed by these Windrun, because I mean he did 5k damage.

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It wasn't nothing, but yeah, Windranger and Queen of Pain popping off in the fights.

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And I think, strategically, once again, there's something to be said about the formation of

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Rejects just not being right.

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Viper should not be able to be isolated like this in Ice Shards with no teammates around

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to protect them.

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You're just not fully, you're breaking formation and it's costing you big time.

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This is the second time in a row you're going to see in the replay here.

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Keep an eye on Viper soon coming up.

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Or this is after you TP'd out actually, so never mind.

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This looks like a pretty good egg, but it's a bit too centralized and we're not Viper

05:14:51.620 --> 05:14:52.620
to protect it.

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range on that focus fire

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it's good, it's good, very good

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second rush, it's gonna be perfect

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gonna be a lot of them

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second rush, very nice

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I can never tell when they're done

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alright

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liquid

05:15:12.240 --> 05:15:15.600
still without having lost barracks are now

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have the goodies and

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equalize the entire gold lead and this is where experience matters

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the most you had a good lead on rejects you've lost it

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you can tell that liquid are recovering you know

05:15:28.860 --> 05:15:32.520
that a big lead has been dropped how do you find the way into this against

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ages cheese

05:15:33.960 --> 05:15:37.680
scofield links to the other side he just spots him though

05:15:37.680 --> 05:15:42.200
meanwhile the underlatch is getting destroyed ace is first dead does have buyback

05:15:42.200 --> 05:15:45.920
and fiends gate as well mcay focus fire sonic wave

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frank gets demolished

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And now with that talent for Micke, his focus fire is not too far away.

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Dark Mago, going to turn his sights onto the win run.

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There's the egg with the sunray as well as melting.

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This is going to be life number one.

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Now on the back line, Nisha trying to take care of business.

05:16:00.840 --> 05:16:02.520
Witz has actually survived longer than usual.

05:16:02.520 --> 05:16:03.760
Nisha all alone.

05:16:03.760 --> 05:16:04.600
There's the pit of mouse.

05:16:04.600 --> 05:16:06.840
Vibeck comes out from ace with the firestorm to follow.

05:16:06.840 --> 05:16:10.520
Raptor dancing in decent amount of damage, but not enough to get a kill.

05:16:10.520 --> 05:16:12.920
And again, Throken on the underlord trying to run away from the right.

05:16:12.920 --> 05:16:15.480
But the Dark Mago just absolutely pounding on him.

05:16:15.480 --> 05:16:17.880
But Witz again out of position.

05:16:17.880 --> 05:16:26.580
And Nisha finishes the job, eats the cheese, kills off Dark Mago now, and Skullfield, the last remaining member of Rejects, up, but not for long.

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And of course, as usual, Ekki had to die one more time, 15 to his name, still winning that one.

05:16:36.480 --> 05:16:46.980
Yeah, that was very nice patience from Ace on the buyback, just waited, waited, baited them in further, and eventually gets the connection with the Ulti into a secondary pit, completely locking the area down.

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It's kind of crazy to see this windrunner just run around with permanent 640 movespeed in these fights

05:16:51.100 --> 05:16:55.820
Yeah, I was actually going to have to get here for as they take out the tier 3 and now just focus in the tier 4s with the windrunner

05:16:56.020 --> 05:17:00.860
Only one buyback. This could be game actually no cares for a full minute

05:17:01.500 --> 05:17:06.660
20 seconds on the slaughter. Maybe they can wait to try to hold this with two heroes. There's the buyback

05:17:06.660 --> 05:17:12.140
I mean even just with him. It's actually gonna force liquid back for now. They look at the barracks

05:17:12.140 --> 05:17:13.660
That's gonna refresh

05:17:13.660 --> 05:17:17.020
They don't know if they're secondaries, so they're playing it safe here

05:17:17.020 --> 05:17:23.980
They take the base tower to poke out whatever buybacks they can and then they take two sets after pretty textbook stuff here because they know

05:17:23.980 --> 05:17:27.740
They have enough time if there's no buybacks they win and if there are any buybacks they can go for plan B

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Mickey gonna go for this tier two as well so they can try to go for the Megas

05:17:32.380 --> 05:17:37.400
They're gonna have a good chance to do it actually frank getting ultra aggressive dark mongoes there as well

05:17:37.400 --> 05:17:39.580
Well, Nisha, they are horribly outnumbered.

05:17:39.580 --> 05:17:41.900
Even the buyback coming out from Ekky wants to die 16 times.

05:17:41.900 --> 05:17:45.140
Sonic Wave only onto one, but Frank in a lot of trouble.

05:17:45.140 --> 05:17:46.440
Snowballs coming for him.

05:17:46.440 --> 05:17:47.260
Do they have the punch?

05:17:47.260 --> 05:17:48.380
They don't need it.

05:17:48.380 --> 05:17:52.780
That is the death of the Slardar, Dark Mago, all alone.

05:17:52.780 --> 05:17:55.780
And that is a dieback for the Viper as liquid,

05:17:55.780 --> 05:17:59.460
punishing the rejects hard.

05:17:59.460 --> 05:18:00.540
And that might do it.

05:18:00.540 --> 05:18:01.980
I mean, they're going to have three up.

05:18:01.980 --> 05:18:02.940
This is going to be a 5v3.

05:18:02.940 --> 05:18:03.740
It's going to be a mega.

05:18:03.740 --> 05:18:06.300
Underworld is spawning in 15 seconds with ult.

05:18:06.300 --> 05:18:06.980
He's going to connect.

05:18:06.980 --> 05:18:09.720
you're missing two big cores, you don't have the damage.

05:18:09.720 --> 05:18:12.340
Kez cannot do this alone without the Hayes

05:18:12.340 --> 05:18:13.720
or the big ass Viper.

05:18:14.940 --> 05:18:16.220
And crazy.

05:18:16.220 --> 05:18:18.680
That is mega creeps and only one tier four

05:18:18.680 --> 05:18:21.500
defending the base for rejects.

05:18:21.500 --> 05:18:23.760
Wix is gonna have to pull something out of his ass,

05:18:23.760 --> 05:18:25.340
really, really deep sender in

05:18:25.340 --> 05:18:27.500
to get this back in their favor.

05:18:27.500 --> 05:18:30.140
Ancient fully exposed and now focus Viper, Micky

05:18:30.140 --> 05:18:31.340
and look at the pit.

05:18:31.340 --> 05:18:32.920
Where do you think you're going?

05:18:32.920 --> 05:18:35.140
You're not leaving your fountain.

05:18:35.140 --> 05:18:36.060
And that should do it.

05:18:36.060 --> 05:18:38.560
Focus fighters should be able to finish this easily.

05:18:38.560 --> 05:18:41.160
They're going to pound onto Wich for one last fight.

05:18:41.160 --> 05:18:43.600
Gets kicked, gets destroyed.

05:18:43.600 --> 05:18:44.700
And that is going to be it.

05:18:44.700 --> 05:18:47.060
Liquid taking 2-0.

05:18:47.060 --> 05:18:49.000
And this was a crazy comeback.

05:18:49.000 --> 05:18:50.960
This looked like it was going game three for sure.

05:18:50.960 --> 05:18:53.360
Yeah.

05:18:53.360 --> 05:18:55.520
They were in such a good position on the rejects.

05:18:55.520 --> 05:18:57.960
And they did so many things right in this game.

05:18:57.960 --> 05:19:01.280
But this is where, you know, this is what class is,

05:19:01.280 --> 05:19:02.880
is being able to turn those games around

05:19:02.880 --> 05:19:04.640
and find the right opportunities.

05:19:04.640 --> 05:19:06.960
Just excellent movement, excellent spell casting.

05:19:06.960 --> 05:19:09.720
I think Mika played a phenomenal game on the Windranger,

05:19:09.720 --> 05:19:12.000
probably MVP for me in that one.

05:19:12.000 --> 05:19:13.560
And Liquid, all smiles.

05:19:13.560 --> 05:19:16.160
They know they overcame a serious challenge here

05:19:16.160 --> 05:19:17.640
and looking good moving forward.

05:19:17.640 --> 05:19:18.880
What a comeback, Richard.

05:19:19.920 --> 05:19:23.400
It was, I feel a little bit sorry for SA Rejects,

05:19:23.400 --> 05:19:25.320
although as we'll talk about very briefly,

05:19:25.320 --> 05:19:28.440
architects of their own downfall in a few key areas.

05:19:28.440 --> 05:19:30.080
But I think Cinder and said it best.

05:19:30.080 --> 05:19:32.720
It is about the class of Team Liquid.

05:19:32.720 --> 05:19:37.000
That game, for normal teams, mortal teams, you're done.

05:19:37.000 --> 05:19:40.000
It's over, it's GG, go next.

05:19:40.000 --> 05:19:41.400
Team Liquid turned it.

05:19:41.400 --> 05:19:43.720
And these guys were in like a 5% chance

05:19:43.720 --> 05:19:45.360
to win sort of scenario.

05:19:45.360 --> 05:19:48.000
Like they've had to play every single fight flawlessly

05:19:48.000 --> 05:19:50.800
on Liquid or like borderline flawlessly.

05:19:50.800 --> 05:19:54.320
They had to like 5-0 wipe South American rejects

05:19:54.320 --> 05:19:57.680
in three or four fights in a row.

05:19:57.680 --> 05:20:01.540
But that is the nature of a top caliber TI winning team

05:20:01.540 --> 05:20:04.220
is that they can go into these late game scenarios

05:20:04.220 --> 05:20:05.660
where obviously they made a lot of mistakes.

05:20:05.660 --> 05:20:07.740
Obviously they're playing against a very strong opponent

05:20:07.740 --> 05:20:09.180
that played well in the early game

05:20:09.180 --> 05:20:11.300
and yet they can still do it.

05:20:11.300 --> 05:20:12.540
They can still clutch it out.

05:20:12.540 --> 05:20:13.900
They can still win.

05:20:13.900 --> 05:20:16.260
Nisha in particular, he was doing a really good job

05:20:16.260 --> 05:20:19.360
at baiting but not getting himself killed

05:20:19.360 --> 05:20:21.580
in these scenarios that resulted in very good fights.

05:20:21.580 --> 05:20:23.340
So special shout outs to him as well.

05:20:23.340 --> 05:20:25.660
Would you say they were cool, calm and composed?

05:20:25.660 --> 05:20:27.340
I would say they were unbelievably

05:20:27.340 --> 05:20:28.660
cool, calm and composed.

05:20:28.660 --> 05:20:29.500
Yeah.

05:20:29.500 --> 05:20:36.420
and Liquid, I feel like they just outplayed South American Rejects. They pretty much had

05:20:36.420 --> 05:20:41.700
the game in the bag on the Rejects side. I feel like a big mistake in this game has

05:20:41.700 --> 05:20:49.940
been Kiz refusing to buy MKB. My friend, that is such a huge mistake. This should

05:20:49.940 --> 05:20:54.860
not really happen at this level I feel. He's playing as a win runner and I feel

05:20:54.860 --> 05:20:59.500
like in the last four or five fights of the game he literally died three times

05:20:59.500 --> 05:21:04.500
because he just couldn't kill the winner. He bought a deadlock. You buy one

05:21:04.500 --> 05:21:08.780
MKB, you delete Windranger. Yeah, huge mistake. Greedy boy. Greedy boy, you know.

05:21:08.780 --> 05:21:12.980
Mark Mago tried so hard this game. Yeah. He did, dude. And he bought the MKB. He

05:21:12.980 --> 05:21:16.860
deserved to win this game. Maybe, maybe that's the argument from him. And I'm

05:21:16.860 --> 05:21:19.820
not saying it's good, but I'm just trying to get into the mindset. Maybe

05:21:19.820 --> 05:21:23.820
it's, okay, we already have MKB on our mid viper. He's owning 19 and four.

05:21:23.820 --> 05:21:30.700
There's slaughter amp, you know Kev's Q will obviously go through the windrun, but it's still it's not enough in these 1v1 scenarios

05:21:30.700 --> 05:21:38.540
You need the MKB. Actually, he did not buy MKB, but he killed MKB after buying five big items

05:21:38.700 --> 05:21:44.100
Because his carry did not have MKB and Dark Magal playing very good this game on the scan of the problem

05:21:44.100 --> 05:21:48.420
And it's like well, if you're not gonna buy it, I have to buy it, but it was just too late

05:21:48.860 --> 05:21:52.260
Too late. He bought it instead of trips. You can see it.

05:21:52.260 --> 05:21:58.140
Damn it's already done unfortunately, so yeah, the comeback was very much on by that point

05:21:58.780 --> 05:22:03.300
And it's just you know, maybe these are the mistakes you make when you're tired and you've played

05:22:03.660 --> 05:22:07.580
You know 40 games in total two and six days, you know, it's

05:22:08.300 --> 05:22:13.220
But I have to say if you give this team liquid a window of opportunity

05:22:13.660 --> 05:22:15.100
They are gonna

05:22:15.100 --> 05:22:21.060
Two foot jump through it 100% and in the fight like it's not just a window of opportunity in the game

05:22:21.060 --> 05:22:23.460
It's a window of opportunity in the fights as well

05:22:23.460 --> 05:22:29.140
It's like if anyone on South American rejects split off and didn't stay in formation liquid

05:22:29.740 --> 05:22:33.240
It was like a feeding frenzy bro. It was like watching shark week

05:22:33.260 --> 05:22:37.920
You know where the guys in like the little cage and the sharks are all surrounding like they immediately

05:22:39.020 --> 05:22:42.900
Immediately took advantage of these mistakes like you would see Frank you get clipped by

05:22:43.540 --> 05:22:46.260
some sort of a we spell miss his

05:22:46.260 --> 05:22:51.000
Mrs. Stomp in a fight and then Liquid would just go like that's enough of an

05:22:51.000 --> 05:22:53.820
opportunity that they would all smell the blood in the water and they would go

05:22:53.820 --> 05:22:58.540
and that is a mark of a very high caliber team who has excellent synergy

05:22:58.540 --> 05:23:02.360
which is even more impressive considering they have Ekki they got a

05:23:02.360 --> 05:23:04.940
stand-in and they're still able to pull out games like this.

05:23:04.940 --> 05:23:10.660
Ekki's talk is going up and yeah I feel like standoff player Miki I would see

05:23:10.660 --> 05:23:17.420
Nisha would be my stand-up player. I feel like he played the fights extraordinarily.

05:23:17.420 --> 05:23:22.820
His positioning, he always kept the aggression. Like he understood his, he played to his limits

05:23:22.820 --> 05:23:26.660
basically. I feel like- I mean for me, just overcoming

05:23:26.660 --> 05:23:33.980
the SD, Mikkei did incredibly well to get anything out of that game. And as you said,

05:23:33.980 --> 05:23:37.180
was finding the Kez towards the end in the teamfights. I mean, both of these

05:23:37.180 --> 05:23:38.980
players. 55,000 Hero then.

05:23:38.980 --> 05:23:41.620
What can you say about both of them?

05:23:41.620 --> 05:23:44.180
For me, there was a lot of pressure on Misha in that game.

05:23:44.180 --> 05:23:47.900
That's at least how I felt that if he died in the fight, as we talked about with the Queen

05:23:47.900 --> 05:23:51.220
of Pain, he's the Exodia combination of cards.

05:23:51.220 --> 05:23:54.420
If he survives and the fight just continues, he will do enough damage.

05:23:54.420 --> 05:24:00.820
We're going over for our interview and Slax has got a duo this time.

05:24:00.820 --> 05:24:01.820
That's right, my friends.

05:24:01.820 --> 05:24:03.420
Yes, I am here with Team Liquid.

05:24:03.420 --> 05:24:05.500
We have both Tofu and Mikkei.

05:24:05.500 --> 05:24:08.140
Gentlemen, so good to see you, very exciting stuff.

05:24:08.140 --> 05:24:10.460
I thought we'd have a very experimental interview.

05:24:10.460 --> 05:24:12.500
I saw you guys talking to each other in the booth.

05:24:12.500 --> 05:24:14.580
I cut that, I said, don't do that.

05:24:14.580 --> 05:24:17.460
Save your questions for the interview, okay?

05:24:17.460 --> 05:24:19.940
So in this moment, pretend that you're me.

05:24:19.940 --> 05:24:22.500
Whatever you say to each other is not you saying it.

05:24:22.500 --> 05:24:24.420
It's me saying it to you, okay?

05:24:24.420 --> 05:24:26.620
Mikke, do you have any questions for Tofu?

05:24:26.620 --> 05:24:29.220
Yeah, how do you feel about this game, Tofu?

05:24:29.220 --> 05:24:31.500
I know the early game didn't look as Christmas.

05:24:31.500 --> 05:24:33.100
Liquid usually does look,

05:24:33.100 --> 05:24:34.900
so how do you feel about the early game?

05:24:34.900 --> 05:24:41.300
I can interpret that so he said that you guys absolutely through the early game absolute ass and then somehow you brought it back

05:24:41.300 --> 05:24:44.300
That's my interpretation. How do you feel? I mean I?

05:24:44.940 --> 05:24:48.500
Can answer in like an inverse so I'm kind of saying the

05:24:49.300 --> 05:24:54.540
Opposite of it. I think we had really good momentum in the early game and everything was like going really smooth

05:24:54.940 --> 05:24:57.780
our moves how we connected and like TP that was like

05:24:58.540 --> 05:25:00.540
kind of clutch

05:25:00.540 --> 05:25:08.980
But, yeah, to be for real, I think this game looked like very hard and it was on the verge

05:25:08.980 --> 05:25:12.860
of the big fat L, but I don't know.

05:25:12.860 --> 05:25:14.340
Bricked up with the big fat L?

05:25:14.340 --> 05:25:16.300
I mean, the game honestly was really hard.

05:25:16.300 --> 05:25:21.220
They played really well and it's also interesting because they have their own style of heroes

05:25:21.220 --> 05:25:25.220
and I don't know, kind of playstyle, just what they do.

05:25:25.220 --> 05:25:27.540
And once we lost the grip, it was really hard.

05:25:27.540 --> 05:25:36.240
I don't know, I think we kept it pretty PMA and like split it, tried to get farm, go for some times, it took us a long while though, but no, eventually we did it.

05:25:36.240 --> 05:25:39.240
Oddly sexual answer in a lot of ways, thank you so much Tofu.

05:25:39.240 --> 05:25:43.840
Any questions for him? Now remember, you're not yourself, you're me asking him.

05:25:43.840 --> 05:25:45.340
What would you like to ask about that game?

05:25:48.040 --> 05:25:53.040
Did you, throughout any point in this game, doubted our win?

05:25:54.840 --> 05:25:56.340
Did you doubt the win?

05:25:56.340 --> 05:26:06.780
No, I think we're quite PMA in the game actually. I don't think anyone checked out, but maybe Tofu a little bit.

05:26:06.780 --> 05:26:16.140
I don't know, but I think we're all pretty PMA and we kept saying if we hit this timing we will turn it around eventually and we kept smith pushing.

05:26:16.140 --> 05:26:19.980
It didn't feel like we were out of it at any point.

05:26:19.980 --> 05:26:23.500
You didn't check out Tofu? That's a serious allegation. Were you just like...

05:26:23.500 --> 05:26:27.260
Like, it wasn't a setup to say that, like, he didn't believe,

05:26:27.260 --> 05:26:29.020
but this game was rough.

05:26:29.020 --> 05:26:30.380
It was, like, honestly, hard.

05:26:30.380 --> 05:26:33.380
Like, they were, they had the momentum for most of the game.

05:26:33.380 --> 05:26:36.500
And, yeah, I don't know.

05:26:36.500 --> 05:26:38.500
Eventually, the other team also needs

05:26:38.500 --> 05:26:40.660
to mess something up before it comes back to happen.

05:26:40.660 --> 05:26:42.660
And you guys are so disciplined, I honestly.

05:26:42.660 --> 05:26:44.980
That's the TI caliber kind of team coming through.

05:26:44.980 --> 05:26:46.260
That's all that experience.

05:26:46.260 --> 05:26:48.780
I want to take it into a bit of a serious place, though.

05:26:48.780 --> 05:26:52.580
Nick, a lot of guys looked up to you, not me.

05:26:52.580 --> 05:26:57.700
But no, no, no, no, I did want to know if you had any words for them.

05:26:57.700 --> 05:27:00.500
I mean, the South American rejects are an up and coming team.

05:27:00.500 --> 05:27:04.180
I'm sure it made a mint a lot for them to face off against you and make it

05:27:04.180 --> 05:27:06.260
this far in the tournament. Any words for that team?

05:27:06.260 --> 05:27:08.900
How can they improve? What do you think about them?

05:27:08.900 --> 05:27:11.820
I think it's always fun to play South American teams.

05:27:11.820 --> 05:27:16.500
They're like kind of match or pace or even like faster, to be honest.

05:27:16.500 --> 05:27:19.100
I think they're playing way better than us in the early game.

05:27:19.100 --> 05:27:24.900
So, I think they're just going to keep improving a bit on the mid-game and late-game scenarios

05:27:24.900 --> 05:27:26.580
and they will be good in the future.

05:27:26.580 --> 05:27:28.180
Okay, fantastic.

05:27:28.180 --> 05:27:30.260
Any words for the Team Liquid fans?

05:27:30.260 --> 05:27:31.420
That was a close one.

05:27:31.420 --> 05:27:34.500
They were flaming you guys in the comments there until you guys pulled it through.

05:27:34.500 --> 05:27:36.420
You had some doubters.

05:27:36.420 --> 05:27:37.420
Any words to those doubters?

05:27:37.420 --> 05:27:39.540
I mean, on the L you get doubters.

05:27:39.540 --> 05:27:43.060
On the when you have like the hype fans.

05:27:43.060 --> 05:27:46.660
But overall, just thanks for cheering and believing.

05:27:46.660 --> 05:27:51.040
We're still in a stand-in situation and actually doing a great job with us.

05:27:51.040 --> 05:27:56.300
The beginning is hard to have expectations to run and win this tourney, but I think we're

05:27:56.300 --> 05:28:00.820
having a really good run and just keep supporting and cheering for us.

05:28:00.820 --> 05:28:01.820
Yeah, thanks.

05:28:01.820 --> 05:28:03.060
All right, boys, put it in.

05:28:03.060 --> 05:28:04.460
Let's get those hands in here, Ray.

05:28:04.460 --> 05:28:05.460
One, two, three.

05:28:05.460 --> 05:28:06.460
Go Liquid!

05:28:06.460 --> 05:28:07.460
Back to you.

05:28:07.460 --> 05:28:08.460
Thanks, Alex.

05:28:08.460 --> 05:28:12.900
Another experimental interview there.

05:28:12.900 --> 05:28:14.660
We really do keep eye on him, don't we?

05:28:14.660 --> 05:28:20.020
No, but what I love about that interview is, apart from Tofu just being a chad,

05:28:20.220 --> 05:28:22.860
it's the story of Valachia so far.

05:28:23.060 --> 05:28:27.340
It has been about the PMA, no means to cite.

05:28:27.540 --> 05:28:31.260
We've seen Team Liquid turn the game where most teams would crumble.

05:28:31.460 --> 05:28:33.020
We've seen Heroic go out.

05:28:33.220 --> 05:28:37.140
We've seen ParaVision struggling with their mental as well.

05:28:37.340 --> 05:28:40.620
It really does show you the toll that Dota 2 can take.

05:28:40.820 --> 05:28:42.700
And if you can just let it wash over you,

05:28:42.700 --> 05:28:45.300
One time's a bad, you'll have more sets.

05:28:45.300 --> 05:28:48.020
I feel like we've had two great losses today here at PGL.

05:28:48.020 --> 05:28:49.820
We've lost the Nipo player,

05:28:49.820 --> 05:28:53.940
and now we've lost the South American team, two Wild Cards.

05:28:55.060 --> 05:28:56.060
Yeah.

05:28:56.620 --> 05:28:58.580
PMA wins games.

05:28:58.580 --> 05:28:59.900
That's what King Jungle said here,

05:28:59.900 --> 05:29:03.060
when we had him on the only interview we did on the couch.

05:29:03.620 --> 05:29:05.380
He said it, and he was right.

05:29:05.380 --> 05:29:07.020
He's predicting the futures like an Oracle.

05:29:07.020 --> 05:29:08.220
He is, he is, guys.

05:29:08.220 --> 05:29:10.420
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Hey guys, we're back to test the pros knowledge of 7.41.

05:31:06.500 --> 05:31:09.880
I'm here with Miero, one of the brightest minds in Dota.

05:31:09.880 --> 05:31:12.960
How much did you memorize the patch when it came out?

05:31:12.960 --> 05:31:16.040
Um, how much time I read it?

05:31:16.040 --> 05:31:17.680
Yeah, how long did you read it?

05:31:17.680 --> 05:31:18.680
How much did you study?

05:31:18.680 --> 05:31:21.160
Um, not that much, actually.

05:31:21.160 --> 05:31:22.160
Great!

05:31:22.160 --> 05:31:23.160
About a few hours.

05:31:23.160 --> 05:31:24.160
A few hours, dude!

05:31:24.160 --> 05:31:25.160
Oh, goodness gracious.

05:31:25.160 --> 05:31:28.920
All right, well, we have a challenge for you.

05:31:28.920 --> 05:31:34.000
You have three minutes to guess as many questions as possible about the patch.

05:31:34.000 --> 05:31:37.560
It's all about how many, how quick you can do it and how correct you are.

05:31:37.560 --> 05:31:38.560
Okay, roll.

05:31:38.560 --> 05:31:39.560
All right.

05:31:39.560 --> 05:31:40.400
Let's do this.

05:31:41.720 --> 05:31:45.000
Unlike allied heroes, enemy heroes are able to consume items

05:31:45.000 --> 05:31:47.520
left on the ground by a forager's kit.

05:31:47.520 --> 05:31:48.480
True or false?

05:31:50.040 --> 05:31:53.200
The neutral item that you dig around the tree is good.

05:31:53.200 --> 05:31:55.600
Can enemies eat those things?

05:31:55.600 --> 05:31:56.960
Eat those things, enemies?

05:31:56.960 --> 05:31:57.800
Uh-huh.

05:31:59.600 --> 05:32:01.200
No, false.

05:32:01.200 --> 05:32:02.240
It's false, it is-

05:32:02.240 --> 05:32:04.240
Blin, maybe it's true.

05:32:04.240 --> 05:32:05.080
Well, you gotta pick.

05:32:05.080 --> 05:32:07.400
But I know, allies cannot eat.

05:32:07.400 --> 05:32:09.120
Allies cannot, but enemies.

05:32:09.120 --> 05:32:10.680
Okay, enemies.

05:32:11.680 --> 05:32:12.880
Taking a long time with this.

05:32:12.880 --> 05:32:13.680
Let's just say true.

05:32:13.680 --> 05:32:14.680
Let's just say true.

05:32:14.680 --> 05:32:15.480
Yes, stay on true.

05:32:15.480 --> 05:32:17.280
Ladies and gentlemen, he clutched it.

05:32:17.280 --> 05:32:17.920
It is true.

05:32:17.920 --> 05:32:18.720
Enemies can't eat it.

05:32:18.720 --> 05:32:19.520
That was a close one.

05:32:19.520 --> 05:32:20.120
All right.

05:32:20.120 --> 05:32:24.480
Prior to 7.41, the Tormentor could it deal damage to neutrals?

05:32:24.480 --> 05:32:25.640
It no longer can.

05:32:25.640 --> 05:32:26.520
True or false?

05:32:28.920 --> 05:32:30.720
He could deal before the patch.

05:32:30.720 --> 05:32:31.440
That's right.

05:32:31.440 --> 05:32:33.640
And no...

05:32:33.640 --> 05:32:35.320
And it can't anymore.

05:32:35.320 --> 05:32:36.880
True or false?

05:32:36.880 --> 05:32:37.720
False.

05:32:37.720 --> 05:32:38.520
False?

05:32:38.520 --> 05:32:39.020
Yeah.

05:32:39.020 --> 05:32:40.600
It actually was true!

05:32:40.600 --> 05:32:42.200
Actually, yes, I could do that!

05:32:42.200 --> 05:32:43.760
That's it, but all right.

05:32:43.760 --> 05:32:44.420
Well, move on.

05:32:44.420 --> 05:32:48.200
Which one of the heroes did not have their base armor

05:32:48.200 --> 05:32:49.440
increased by one?

05:32:49.440 --> 05:32:52.360
Terrorblade, Animage, Legion, or Death Prophet?

05:32:52.360 --> 05:32:54.640
All of them did except for one.

05:32:54.640 --> 05:32:56.640
I think I damage for sure.

05:32:56.640 --> 05:32:59.400
Terrorblade.

05:32:59.400 --> 05:33:01.360
Terrorblade?

05:33:01.360 --> 05:33:02.400
You think it's Terrorblade?

05:33:02.400 --> 05:33:03.360
Terrorblade, yes.

05:33:03.360 --> 05:33:04.400
A lot of people saying that.

05:33:04.400 --> 05:33:05.880
No, it's Legion.

05:33:05.880 --> 05:33:07.360
He has so much armor already.

05:33:07.360 --> 05:33:13.280
Alright, moving on. Which of the following heroes has the most words on the original update page?

05:33:13.280 --> 05:33:15.480
Tinker, Chen, Rubik or Dragon Knight?

05:33:17.200 --> 05:33:18.480
The longest description?

05:33:18.480 --> 05:33:19.480
The longest description?

05:33:19.480 --> 05:33:20.600
Yep, just the most words.

05:33:26.320 --> 05:33:31.040
Man, every one of them is a huge fan of our mates, but...

05:33:31.040 --> 05:33:37.280
hmm just a random let's say

05:33:40.000 --> 05:33:45.400
is it Chen? Chen? okay let's go for Chen lock and Chen we gotta move now let's

05:33:45.400 --> 05:33:49.360
take care that's her and of course all that crazy stuff essence distillers

05:33:49.360 --> 05:33:53.780
ground target ability cannot reveal which are the following in this units

05:33:53.780 --> 05:34:00.360
wards smoked units or units in the fog of war can this reveal yeah ever use

05:34:00.360 --> 05:34:05.200
this item when you press it when you put it on the ground yeah it casual it

05:34:05.200 --> 05:34:12.760
cannot only one of the words that's correct words well done there you

05:34:12.760 --> 05:34:16.920
clearly just guess but no problem which of the following heroes did not receive

05:34:16.920 --> 05:34:23.800
a change in every one of the patches doom a tiny tinker or bat rider all

05:34:23.800 --> 05:34:26.380
all these heroes were in every patch except for one.

05:34:27.260 --> 05:34:28.100
Okay.

05:34:30.980 --> 05:34:32.680
Say, Tinker?

05:34:32.680 --> 05:34:35.320
No, no, of course not, it wasn't Tinker.

05:34:35.320 --> 05:34:36.720
He was in everything, he was bad writer,

05:34:36.720 --> 05:34:37.640
I heard it last time.

05:34:37.640 --> 05:34:38.620
Can we do it really quick?

05:34:38.620 --> 05:34:39.760
Would you love following heroes?

05:34:39.760 --> 05:34:40.960
Cannot miss a pill.

05:34:40.960 --> 05:34:41.800
Lila.

05:34:41.800 --> 05:34:44.760
Lila, no, no, no, I'm afraid not.

05:34:44.760 --> 05:34:46.640
They changed it only Winter Dweiver

05:34:46.640 --> 05:34:47.880
and cannot miss a pill now.

05:34:47.880 --> 05:34:48.720
Okay.

05:34:48.720 --> 05:34:49.560
You did!

05:34:49.560 --> 05:34:51.480
Not, not, not those.

05:34:51.480 --> 05:34:52.520
Yeah, that's okay.

05:34:52.520 --> 05:34:56.520
Do you know of roof or improvement? Do you really need to know the patch to be a good player?

05:34:56.520 --> 05:35:00.520
I mean, if it's on the Russian language, I don't know, okay, very instant.

05:35:00.520 --> 05:35:05.520
This was just language barrier. I'll give you 100%, I know how good you are.

05:35:05.520 --> 05:35:10.520
Alright, well thank you for trying, you did an incredible job.

05:35:10.520 --> 05:35:15.520
Ish, let's get to her and back to P.J.L. Valakia season 8.

05:35:22.520 --> 05:35:28.520
you. That's right. You are

05:35:28.520 --> 05:35:30.520
watching P. J. Well, I can

05:35:30.520 --> 05:35:32.520
season eight and it is time

05:35:32.520 --> 05:35:34.520
for the upper bracket finals.

05:35:34.520 --> 05:35:35.520
That means one of the two

05:35:35.520 --> 05:35:37.520
teams that will have featured

05:35:37.520 --> 05:35:39.520
in the upcoming series will be

05:35:39.520 --> 05:35:41.520
getting their spot in the

05:35:41.520 --> 05:35:43.520
grand finals tomorrow. It's

05:35:43.520 --> 05:35:45.520
about the two teams that also

05:35:45.520 --> 05:35:46.520
won the group stages. They

05:35:46.520 --> 05:35:47.520
went three and own the group

05:35:47.520 --> 05:35:50.520
stages may have not dropped

05:35:50.520 --> 05:35:54.200
talk all about it. I'm Shiva. I'll be your host for this one. And I am joined by LaCoste

05:35:54.200 --> 05:35:57.040
and Tegov. Good afternoon. LaCoste, how are you doing?

05:35:57.040 --> 05:36:01.160
Doing good. Doing great. A little bit sad that we saw South American regions dropping

05:36:01.160 --> 05:36:05.480
out like this. Always have high hopes. But still, very good result for them. But we

05:36:05.480 --> 05:36:07.720
got to focus on the future, Shiva.

05:36:07.720 --> 05:36:10.760
We do. We do, Tegov. We got a spicy one coming up.

05:36:10.760 --> 05:36:15.600
Yeah. We have overall versus BBE. These two teams, at some point you'd argue probably

05:36:15.600 --> 05:36:18.200
should have won some tournaments this year. But they've kind of been in the

05:36:18.200 --> 05:36:23.400
shadows I feel but now it's like they're both top three. Of course one's going to get to the Grand Finals,

05:36:23.400 --> 05:36:28.360
maybe they finally can lift you know a little bit of cursive had this this competitive season.

05:36:28.360 --> 05:36:34.200
Yeah because we've seen them in a Grand Finals as we'll show you guys but we haven't seen them

05:36:34.200 --> 05:36:39.240
win at Grand Finals. Yeah exactly I think in the early stage of the competitive season

05:36:39.240 --> 05:36:43.240
this is the unfortunate the wrong graphic it is showing trophies on everyone.

05:36:43.240 --> 05:36:47.240
So, everyone agree!

05:36:47.240 --> 05:36:51.240
There is another graphic that doesn't have a sea of trophies for everyone, because of course at PGL,

05:36:51.240 --> 05:36:54.240
it is the PMA tournament like Richard was mentioning.

05:36:54.240 --> 05:36:57.240
But, no, basically what the graphic was trying to show was, of course,

05:36:57.240 --> 05:36:59.240
Thunder Yandex had been dominating the year.

05:36:59.240 --> 05:37:03.240
The main thing was, we are yet to have a Grand Finals in a tier one tournament

05:37:03.240 --> 05:37:06.240
that wasn't Western Europe and Eastern Europe.

05:37:06.240 --> 05:37:07.240
It has of course been very dominant.

05:37:07.240 --> 05:37:12.240
But, like you mentioned, Aurora BB, one Grand Finals a piece,

05:37:12.240 --> 05:37:15.320
No trophies as of yet, it could be this time around.

05:37:15.720 --> 05:37:20.440
It could be this time around, and it will be, for me, one of these, actually, there's no guaranteed.

05:37:20.440 --> 05:37:23.880
One of them is guaranteed in the finals, they're not guaranteed to win the finals.

05:37:24.400 --> 05:37:25.400
Very, very...

05:37:25.400 --> 05:37:26.760
Yeah, a big difference there.

05:37:26.760 --> 05:37:27.760
I'll have one more date.

05:37:27.760 --> 05:37:28.760
I'll get it into my head.

05:37:28.760 --> 05:37:29.760
It's so good.

05:37:29.760 --> 05:37:30.760
We'll get that.

05:37:30.760 --> 05:37:32.960
How will they get to that finals?

05:37:32.960 --> 05:37:38.760
Of course, we're going to talk about some of the heroes, and one of the heroes that stands out, at least for one of the teams, Lacoste, is the kids.

05:37:38.760 --> 05:37:46.240
Yeah, it's it's the big one. It's the highest win-rate hero over the 10 games so far at Valakia sitting at the booping

05:37:46.960 --> 05:37:53.760
76% win rate over 17 games played and the Kiritich. He is the one who is spamming the hero

05:37:53.760 --> 05:37:55.760
He's spammed the hero in the professional games as well

05:37:56.440 --> 05:38:02.640
75% win rate undefeated currently at Valakia and on the other side you have nightfall zero games nothing zero nada

05:38:02.640 --> 05:38:05.780
He didn't play this hero in competitive Dota yet

05:38:05.780 --> 05:38:13.780
not sure if he doesn't want to play it because this is the like I'd say very good hero to look very bad at easily

05:38:13.780 --> 05:38:18.020
So nightfall he's sticking with the classics. Yeah, you know keep it simple, right?

05:38:18.020 --> 05:38:20.140
You know, he's built his career on a certain hero pool

05:38:20.140 --> 05:38:25.340
I'm intrigued and I like will there ever be a point where he'll go. I need to play cats like you surely

05:38:25.340 --> 05:38:27.340
No, I mean

05:38:27.340 --> 05:38:29.540
That's like you have to at some point

05:38:29.540 --> 05:38:35.060
I'm sure like a player a coach someone has gone over to me like hey thinking about it and he's like no no

05:38:35.060 --> 05:38:40.060
Maybe he chickened out. Maybe he's too afraid to play that hero. I can see it

05:38:40.060 --> 05:38:46.860
I appreciate that. I think eventually kids will be one of the classics and then he has to be able to play it anyway

05:38:47.180 --> 05:38:50.900
Well, if we keep getting new heroes eventually because it will come a classic, right?

05:38:56.460 --> 05:39:00.520
No, but speaking speaking about nightfall he does not play the case. What does he play?

05:39:00.520 --> 05:39:02.740
What does he do? What should we look out for for him?

05:39:02.740 --> 05:39:09.020
Well, that's the thing with nightfall when he is able to dominate in tournaments be contented for grand finals the top three placements

05:39:09.020 --> 05:39:11.260
It's when his hero pool is actually at the smallest right?

05:39:11.260 --> 05:39:15.460
I feel like right now you can see with the laundry us a win ranger tiny and void

05:39:15.660 --> 05:39:18.840
No matter what he's going for them even the series yesterday

05:39:18.860 --> 05:39:22.900
It was like for a band guess what he picks the void he loses for a band

05:39:22.900 --> 05:39:28.020
Guess what he takes the win ranger right like they really are very much like going towards his specialties

05:39:28.020 --> 05:39:33.740
But when nightfall was confident with Kari, he can lead his team to very strong placements.

05:39:33.740 --> 05:39:37.820
Yeah, I think nightfall, this is prime nightfall, we're experiencing this tournament.

05:39:37.820 --> 05:39:39.700
He looks very good, very solid.

05:39:39.700 --> 05:39:45.140
Like we're seeing some BKB TPs out, but you know, he's going in.

05:39:45.140 --> 05:39:49.900
Like I think he definitely understood what needs to be done in this patch.

05:39:49.900 --> 05:39:54.700
He's playing much more active Dota overall, and he's being very aggressive.

05:39:54.700 --> 05:39:58.540
And I feel like this might be his tournament to win as well.

05:39:58.540 --> 05:39:59.580
Thanks, Jinx.

05:39:59.580 --> 05:40:00.860
That won't start.

05:40:00.860 --> 05:40:03.020
Anyway, congratulations to BedBoom team.

05:40:03.020 --> 05:40:07.420
Yeah, I think this one, this is where we'll finally get our answer.

05:40:07.420 --> 05:40:10.620
A couple of days ago, we had Kiritich here on the couch with us,

05:40:10.620 --> 05:40:15.980
and he mentioned that Nightfall right now is the best carry.

05:40:15.980 --> 05:40:20.460
And then he added, but not at this event, not in this tournament.

05:40:20.460 --> 05:40:24.380
We were wondering, does he mean that Kiritich himself?

05:40:24.380 --> 05:40:28.060
Is the best carry here or is it satanic now?

05:40:28.060 --> 05:40:32.540
We already know that Aurora has beaten satanic so for the sake of the show Shiva

05:40:32.860 --> 05:40:36.780
Kara Titch, which is he may slam dunking a nightfall. He is the best.

05:40:36.780 --> 05:40:42.940
He's gonna crush this series on his carry look at him playing slightly different heroes, but also not a major

05:40:43.340 --> 05:40:47.980
You know the large hero pool right compared to nightfall and I think one more hero added to the lineup

05:40:47.980 --> 05:40:53.820
But of course Leicester and Kez they are kind of the unique to even the mortar compared to the likes of nightfall

05:40:53.820 --> 05:40:56.540
But yeah, but the reason is because they're too good

05:40:56.540 --> 05:41:01.400
They played two less games compared to Aurora who also won pretty much every single series

05:41:01.400 --> 05:41:03.840
But there isn't much info on Kiritic

05:41:03.840 --> 05:41:06.300
So only 11 games total played

05:41:06.860 --> 05:41:11.640
Yeah, there's a big difference in terms of how they got I mean both teams won every series

05:41:11.640 --> 05:41:17.060
But Aurora went to game three very frequently and that boom only yesterday went for the second time

05:41:17.600 --> 05:41:21.300
Into a third game. They have just been that dominant

05:41:21.300 --> 05:41:27.380
And how have they been reaching this peak? Which heroes have been their favorite lacrosse?

05:41:27.380 --> 05:41:30.720
What should we look out for us? We're getting closer to the draft of the first game.

05:41:30.720 --> 05:41:34.020
Yeah, I mean they have very specific heroes that they like to pick.

05:41:34.020 --> 05:41:39.040
I think there's gonna be a lot of overlapping. Everybody has been talking about the position for heroes.

05:41:39.040 --> 05:41:43.420
So one team does prefer playing hoodwink. The other team does prefer to play Rubik.

05:41:43.420 --> 05:41:46.940
So basically you are getting the trade. We also saw priority shifting where

05:41:46.940 --> 05:41:50.840
other teams are also starting to pick it up in the first phase instead of maybe

05:41:50.840 --> 05:41:55.380
going for one of the cores and the Queen of Pain is definitely the big one for me

05:41:55.380 --> 05:41:58.220
on side of Pet Boom Team, the sticker that we saw in the previous series just

05:41:58.220 --> 05:42:03.020
completely pops off unlimited damage, unlimited scaling and the big one for

05:42:03.020 --> 05:42:07.620
me on side of Aurora is definitely Puck. We did see some stats yesterday, how

05:42:07.620 --> 05:42:12.140
effective Mikoto is on Puck, undefeated so far in the tournament and they are

05:42:12.140 --> 05:42:15.180
gonna remove it straight away. It's also just the fact that you see from

05:42:15.180 --> 05:42:19.500
that graphic like the amount of damage that Aurora has like cheap damage right even from

05:42:19.500 --> 05:42:23.420
Coyote in the 5th position yesterday he had the wallop where he hits like a fatal

05:42:23.420 --> 05:42:27.660
bond on you know Creekway plus 2 heroes breaks the entire lane you know nightfalls earth

05:42:27.660 --> 05:42:30.860
it just runs away with the game right like that's the thing that you need to look towards

05:42:30.860 --> 05:42:35.260
both of these team supports bring so much life to the early game that we get to praise

05:42:35.260 --> 05:42:39.260
their cause and how much they can do in the game because their supports are just so

05:42:39.260 --> 05:42:44.460
just reliable in what they do I kind of like that Queen of Pain is getting priority

05:42:44.460 --> 05:42:51.440
because you can you see this puck band and that's pretty much the only hero that queen of pain is going to be afraid of where you can

05:42:52.140 --> 05:42:57.300
It's just I didn't see a game where queen of pain did not have impact at every single post game

05:42:57.420 --> 05:43:01.420
This damage coming up from queen of pain is always highest by far

05:43:01.420 --> 05:43:01.820
Yeah

05:43:01.820 --> 05:43:08.300
It helps that people from the mid lane are building bottle plus soaring with the screen build like it feels like even if

05:43:08.420 --> 05:43:11.460
There's a matchup that can try and like fight you a little bit

05:43:11.460 --> 05:43:16.200
But you all just farm 20% quicker than the enemy mid, you're always going to get online.

05:43:16.200 --> 05:43:21.900
The build is very clear, it is either SMY, Ags, BKB or it's Bloodstone then going back

05:43:21.900 --> 05:43:27.740
for Ags and BKB etc, so it's like the build is clear, the farm pattern is clear, not many

05:43:27.740 --> 05:43:30.740
heroes counter it, like you know Queen of Pain is always going to be able to do something

05:43:30.740 --> 05:43:31.740
in the game.

05:43:31.740 --> 05:43:36.540
A quick question, if you're first pick, why would you ban on Slaughter, wouldn't

05:43:36.540 --> 05:43:40.940
you want to be able to pick him first pick or loan druid for that matter?

05:43:40.940 --> 05:43:48.940
Yeah, there is an argument for it. Maybe there's a fear for, like, you know how Alchemist's first pick in the tournament got exploited by Falcons?

05:43:48.940 --> 05:43:49.440
Yes.

05:43:49.440 --> 05:43:56.940
Maybe as the tournament progressed, we've seen so much Slardar that BBs kind of convinced themselves, like, oh, if we took a Slardar, it's like too obvious of a first pick.

05:43:56.940 --> 05:43:59.440
They're going to have this, like, masterful plan against us.

05:43:59.440 --> 05:44:00.440
Yeah.

05:44:00.440 --> 05:44:01.440
That would be my assumption.

05:44:01.440 --> 05:44:10.440
I think also previous game that we just witnessed was a good showing where Slard, he can do well, but Queen of Pain, she builds into items that give her a lot of opportunities.

05:44:10.940 --> 05:44:15.780
armor, a lot of survivability, and once you get to like super late game, you're not really

05:44:15.780 --> 05:44:20.420
threatened by Slardar in any way, and cancelling his blink dagger in the fight slowing him down

05:44:20.420 --> 05:44:23.860
even though he does have slow resistance on a sprint which has been nerfed in terms of

05:44:23.860 --> 05:44:27.300
cooldown, just doesn't like to play into that matchup.

05:44:27.300 --> 05:44:31.220
Also here with that BB, I actually get to play in the tournament, maybe self banning

05:44:31.220 --> 05:44:35.100
against themselves throughout the entire tournament, even letting it just be fully ignored

05:44:35.100 --> 05:44:36.340
in other drafts.

05:44:36.340 --> 05:44:44.340
I am a bit surprised by that, I was expecting BB to be a team that would dabble with it at some point, but yeah, just under the radar for them.

05:44:44.340 --> 05:44:56.340
Yeah, that doesn't fit their current style. We have been praising Bed Boom a lot for their own identity that they have in the draft, and maybe that identity comes from just not having Slaughter and just picking their own stuff.

05:44:56.340 --> 05:45:04.460
Miro has been an absolute menace in the games that we've been covering right through the Beast Masters, the Lycans, the Dawnbreakers to the Tidehunters

05:45:04.460 --> 05:45:08.060
Like every hero he's been on has thought like he's a like a statement game

05:45:08.060 --> 05:45:14.540
Well, if we're gonna talk about players that have been standing out on their heroes, it's being saved in Mivreys you're having to

05:45:14.540 --> 05:45:18.520
When Ranger he looked good every single time he played it the one game

05:45:18.520 --> 05:45:23.040
He went beyond Godlike second game that he did play against Liquid yesterday

05:45:23.040 --> 05:45:26.440
He was also popping off. He was just like running them down

05:45:26.920 --> 05:45:33.040
Placing down observer words behind tier 2 tower chasing them up until like tier 3 10 minutes in and

05:45:33.640 --> 05:45:40.600
Pango a lot of synergy between like these heroes in terms of the damage output even a focus fire from a position 4 is

05:45:40.600 --> 05:45:44.880
Still gonna be dealing the damage because of the minus armor from pangalir right now

05:45:44.880 --> 05:45:46.880
They don't have the best hero to kill the egg

05:45:46.880 --> 05:45:52.820
They don't have like insane amount of lockdown, but they have relatively low cooldown spells like shackle shot

05:45:53.040 --> 05:45:55.520
Bambler Strike, it is enough to lock down Queen of Pain.

05:45:55.520 --> 05:45:59.360
It's also BBR playing very skirmishly. They're able to go into the fight, bait the egg and

05:45:59.360 --> 05:46:02.960
just walk away, right? Monkey can disengage, winner on a can, pangler on a can. They don't

05:46:02.960 --> 05:46:07.120
have to kill the egg, they can just, you know, wait it out. And we have seen Panglare

05:46:07.120 --> 05:46:11.280
into the co-op matchup. Because Queen of Pain is going for Scream, not really over,

05:46:11.280 --> 05:46:15.120
you know, respecting Dagger too much, the Panglare can play into the matchup

05:46:15.120 --> 05:46:19.120
and can go for the fight. Mars the Hero that we just haven't seen much.

05:46:19.120 --> 05:46:22.560
Yeah, we haven't seen much. I think Whisper did try it the other day on Heroic, but

05:46:23.040 --> 05:46:25.440
But now people can't run away from the egg as much

05:46:25.980 --> 05:46:29.920
It's a classic combination. All right, like you want to take a team fight into Aurora

05:46:29.920 --> 05:46:36.400
It is going to be like arena sonic wave egg sunray like you need to make sure you have bkbs. Yeah, or you are going to disappear

05:46:37.560 --> 05:46:44.680
Hmm question is what is Mira going to be playing Batrider is still in a pole. His hero pole is also relatively small

05:46:44.680 --> 05:46:47.720
I mean they could also go for shadow demon

05:46:47.720 --> 05:46:53.680
Any kind of these range position fours could feel good because Phoenix is mostly played from a position five and

05:46:54.680 --> 05:46:57.280
Two of the best fours are already out

05:46:57.720 --> 05:47:01.740
But yeah Mars not the strongest laner. He has a lot of these

05:47:02.360 --> 05:47:04.500
Losing matchups if you're off to a bad start

05:47:04.520 --> 05:47:10.840
He is the one who I would say suffers the most out of the off laners because this is the hero that can't really farm the

05:47:10.840 --> 05:47:13.480
Stacks quickly. He's reliant on getting the levels

05:47:13.480 --> 05:47:19.860
So it's kind of hard to play him from behind and I feel like that's one of the reasons why we're not seeing him being picked

05:47:19.860 --> 05:47:24.300
Yeah, I mean the tiny just enables the draft to be progressed right now from of course

05:47:25.120 --> 05:47:29.200
Not as much focus on him in regards to the bands that we saw P vision apply

05:47:29.700 --> 05:47:33.260
But it's gonna go for the tiny one of them. You know the five here is that we mentioned for him

05:47:33.820 --> 05:47:37.300
It just continues down the same line of draft they have like it's so scary

05:47:37.300 --> 05:47:42.700
You jump them if you don't get that clean kill they have so much counterplay within their lineup and for BB

05:47:42.700 --> 05:47:47.580
They want to make sure that they can try and fight into it right through sustainability

05:47:47.580 --> 05:47:49.980
This is one of the rare situations where both of the teams

05:47:49.980 --> 05:47:55.500
Oh, they're banning out Ursa actually so I think tiny could still go to to the full position

05:47:55.660 --> 05:47:59.640
Just pull way to the Mars and then they can utilize it so a lot of respect

05:47:59.640 --> 05:48:02.500
Maybe just respect towards nightfall Ursa

05:48:02.500 --> 05:48:08.160
I think the other ban might be the support ban like the SD or something yeah as the maybe even like

05:48:08.160 --> 05:48:13.600
silence her on one side because this downbreaker is very good it's a good way

05:48:13.600 --> 05:48:17.040
of being able because you get the extra damage we talked about the combo

05:48:17.040 --> 05:48:21.280
yesterday where supernovae turns it into daytime with her innate ability she

05:48:21.280 --> 05:48:25.280
becomes super strong she punches really hard so that's a nice thing but it's

05:48:25.280 --> 05:48:30.080
also another circle it's a good way to cancel what the arena wants to do so

05:48:30.080 --> 05:48:33.600
having extra bit of a protection extra bit of a circle as well it does feel

05:48:33.600 --> 05:48:37.240
really nice well they don't need to ban on silence her themselves or does

05:48:37.240 --> 05:48:42.040
it for them as it does look like Katalmy is still missing here on the side of Bedboom even though

05:48:42.040 --> 05:48:48.440
they're still soft. Yeah, yeah. I would prefer if Bed Salancer is on side of Bedboom team. I mean for

05:48:48.440 --> 05:48:52.760
BB it really is a matter of like, do they want to have like the Winter Wyvern again and then it's

05:48:52.760 --> 05:48:57.880
just a cold embrace to Cumberbreak Aurora, like into the damage they have, there is a lot of

05:48:57.880 --> 05:49:01.480
damage to their through-code embrace, but also it's like, I feel like you can't turn around

05:49:01.480 --> 05:49:05.880
some fights with it, right? It's not like it's like... It could be, it could be lich,

05:49:05.880 --> 05:49:11.440
I think they might be looking for Lich because his Sierra pull is very interesting like he's playing Crystal Maiden

05:49:11.440 --> 05:49:13.720
Focus being focusing heavily on the lanes

05:49:13.760 --> 05:49:21.080
But I do like Lich a lot because again you want to be grouping around like you want to be inside of the arena and one chain frost

05:49:21.080 --> 05:49:25.680
One bonebreaker ulti makes the fight so much easier for you. It's also a strong laning partner for monkey

05:49:25.680 --> 05:49:29.240
I'm sorry also kind of froze more kind of moves in the early game, right?

05:49:29.240 --> 05:49:31.900
Whereas I went to Wyvern you're playing more reactionary Lich

05:49:31.900 --> 05:49:34.700
You're happy to throw yourself into a smoke make some moves

05:49:34.700 --> 05:49:40.340
So I think for BB it's more like what's the read on the type of game they want to play if their support calls for more defensive

05:49:40.340 --> 05:49:45.860
They'll go wyvern if it's more aggressive. They'll go lich. It's really just a matter of like what's the what's the vibe from the five

05:49:45.860 --> 05:49:52.480
Well, what's the vibe from the four then for a war because at the moment both bands from that we went to a carry

05:49:53.660 --> 05:50:01.780
Reinforcing that potentially mirrors hero is already in one of those four if it is tiny to carry. I'm leaning back rider

05:50:04.700 --> 05:50:06.700
Therefore I now

05:50:07.580 --> 05:50:10.240
Demote the back rider a little bit due to the Oracle pick

05:50:11.500 --> 05:50:16.820
All right, they want to stand their ground like we're talking about winter vibe and cold embrace trying to survive the combo of Aurora

05:50:16.820 --> 05:50:19.700
I mean why not put an Oracle into the mix then you do that

05:50:20.420 --> 05:50:23.180
infinitely better. Yeah, you're gonna go for loads of circles

05:50:24.580 --> 05:50:29.940
Mm-hmm, and there's go to healing on the other side. There's a great hero that has a circle. Okay

05:50:31.460 --> 05:50:33.740
We're still waiting for the punchline

05:50:34.700 --> 05:50:38.700
It's a lion instead!

05:50:38.700 --> 05:50:43.700
Okay, um, yeah, I mean, for Roar, it's just like, generic four, right?

05:50:43.700 --> 05:50:48.700
You're gonna be able to help the lane of the Mars, make sure he farms into the monkey.

05:50:48.700 --> 05:50:52.700
That's exactly what Lion's job is. And throughout the game, Mera's entire thing will be,

05:50:52.700 --> 05:50:56.700
I want to find either the Oracle, or I'm bursting the guy who's up front,

05:50:56.700 --> 05:51:00.700
because the arena has kind of put the Oracle far enough away that he can't save.

05:51:00.700 --> 05:51:05.760
But between Moth and Lion, it will be this like constant balance of like have they found the Oracle?

05:51:05.760 --> 05:51:08.000
If the other guy found the guy that you're trying to kill?

05:51:08.000 --> 05:51:11.800
They also have repositioning tools, which Oracle doesn't like to play into.

05:51:12.000 --> 05:51:18.080
It's better now because Mars doesn't have Bloodsport facet, Tenimorki doesn't have a facet period, nobody does,

05:51:18.080 --> 05:51:23.060
but it does feel like playing into Spearback, playing into like Sonic Wave pushback,

05:51:23.060 --> 05:51:26.200
even the Tossback just feels much more difficult for him.

05:51:26.200 --> 05:51:30.600
but the good thing they do have is Dawnbreaker Altid that can come in first and then Oracle,

05:51:30.600 --> 05:51:34.440
which is probably going to be that second save that they're going to be needing.

05:51:35.720 --> 05:51:41.960
I'm just interesting to see how much WS can do on Mars, because I feel like the hero is not in a

05:51:41.960 --> 05:51:46.600
really good spot right now, as we could see from the stats as well, but really liking the

05:51:46.600 --> 05:51:51.240
Dawnbreaker we saw, the supports that can heal up yesterday with the Phoenix, with the Keeper

05:51:51.240 --> 05:51:56.120
of delight glaring most of them. I think a BedBoom team, they have the same idea of having Oracle,

05:51:56.120 --> 05:51:59.120
Dawnbreaker. It does allow Monkey King to play super aggressive.

05:51:59.120 --> 05:52:03.060
Yeah, Bibi's lineup is very high skill. I think with the type of hero they have, the

05:52:03.060 --> 05:52:07.240
Monkey, the Pango, if they go in too far and you don't protect your backline, Aurora

05:52:07.240 --> 05:52:11.320
have the heroes to punish you very quickly if you don't like respect each other. So

05:52:11.320 --> 05:52:15.120
if Bibi Atom in this game, it is going to be like a potential tournament winning

05:52:15.120 --> 05:52:19.080
game because of the way that they have to just always ensure they're thinking

05:52:19.080 --> 05:52:25.640
about what jump of war have in play. I also think that in the previous patch the Mars was

05:52:25.640 --> 05:52:30.920
first phase banned against WS all the time. So if he can't make this Mars work then I think

05:52:30.920 --> 05:52:35.240
Mars is in a terrible spot. I think this is going to be a good test for the hero itself.

05:52:35.240 --> 05:52:40.760
Yeah collapse is missing, X-XS, he has been eliminated, the Mars is not picking it so

05:52:40.760 --> 05:52:45.400
definitely seems something is off with the hero. Yeah so do we have a clear favorite then?

05:52:45.400 --> 05:52:48.860
I like Bibbidi Bobbidi more in this one.

05:52:48.860 --> 05:53:05.900
I think Bibbidi Bobbidi have the skill to be able to pull off the draft, but Aurora have that simplicity in their line-up that if you win the lanes, there will be no frontline for Bibbidi Bobbidi for some time, and they'll get to keep reminding them of their drafting style, and it's just simple, classic team fight.

05:53:05.900 --> 05:53:11.520
Yeah, one of the heroes is normally first phase banned first phase picked this time first picked overall the monkey king

05:53:11.520 --> 05:53:19.000
I am looking to hear how Aurora is gonna deal with the monkey king because surely that's gonna be a very strong hero in this game

05:53:19.560 --> 05:53:21.980
They have a lot of burst like you have queen of pain

05:53:21.980 --> 05:53:27.200
You have lion and we talked about the burst from tiny from the carrier roll like they could definitely burst

05:53:27.200 --> 05:53:29.480
This is not a hero that has insane amount of HP

05:53:29.480 --> 05:53:32.900
So they need to react fast with dawnbreaker and Oracle to try to save them

05:53:32.900 --> 05:53:36.340
No battle fury, no rage, active item.

05:53:36.340 --> 05:53:42.340
I think active game, I would love to see one of those, but before we get into the game,

05:53:42.340 --> 05:53:44.740
we're going to check in with KP with Stunning Man with Slacks.

05:53:44.740 --> 05:53:46.060
Thank you so much, River.

05:53:46.060 --> 05:53:47.060
Yep, I am here with KP.

05:53:47.060 --> 05:53:49.780
KP, I'm going to say something that might be a little offensive, and I don't want

05:53:49.780 --> 05:53:53.420
you to get offended because I know how sensitive you can be sometimes.

05:53:53.420 --> 05:53:55.020
I want to talk about skill expression.

05:53:55.020 --> 05:54:01.660
Your team, very much like Oogaboo, it's like make arena, make egg, we go, whereas

05:54:01.660 --> 05:54:06.440
They have a lot that they have to do in this game, you know Oracle's got to get some sick saves all that

05:54:06.440 --> 05:54:12.600
Do you think about that as a drafter? Do you think about let's give a simplistic one versus a skill of execution?

05:54:13.120 --> 05:54:15.120
nah, I don't think so

05:54:16.120 --> 05:54:17.120
NAAAAH

05:54:17.120 --> 05:54:22.780
Explain your draft then, you know, we got egg, we got arena, this is all just easy stuff

05:54:22.780 --> 05:54:28.200
It's like it's much more complex than just that I'd say like so many factors going to the draft like

05:54:28.200 --> 05:54:32.240
Like what you mentioned maybe like 1% of the whole draft like so many different things.

05:54:32.240 --> 05:54:37.520
You don't gotta friggin destroy me up here and name one of these complicated things.

05:54:37.520 --> 05:54:39.880
It doesn't even have to be very specific.

05:54:39.880 --> 05:54:42.720
Just what my players want to play I guess.

05:54:42.720 --> 05:54:45.280
That doesn't sound complicated at all you crazy man.

05:54:45.280 --> 05:54:47.320
That's another 1% so you're missing like 98.

05:54:47.320 --> 05:54:48.320
That's a lot.

05:54:48.320 --> 05:54:49.320
Jesus you do a lot in there.

05:54:49.320 --> 05:54:52.840
Alright speaking of heroes that your players want to play let's talk about Mars here.

05:54:52.840 --> 05:54:54.960
Mars traditionally not doing great at this tournament.

05:54:54.960 --> 05:54:57.120
I think it's the first time WS gets to play.

05:54:57.120 --> 05:55:02.540
He's a Mars expert super super good at it as a coach. What do you say when it's like?

05:55:02.540 --> 05:55:07.020
Yeah, I don't think this hero is good, but you want to play it. I know you're good. What's that like for you?

05:55:09.700 --> 05:55:13.140
It's pretty chill like if my call if my play is confident

05:55:13.140 --> 05:55:17.500
I'm just gonna like back him up, you know most of the time not always if it's the drops

05:55:17.520 --> 05:55:21.700
Then yeah sure why not have you ever had to put your foot down with this team and say no

05:55:21.700 --> 05:55:25.660
I really don't think that pick is good here. Oh always like me and Eagle always fighting

05:55:25.660 --> 05:55:28.340
What's one hero they constantly want to play?

05:55:28.340 --> 05:55:29.740
Uh, not telling you.

05:55:29.740 --> 05:55:31.340
Okay, you are so good at these.

05:55:31.340 --> 05:55:33.540
All right, well, we got your team fighting right now,

05:55:33.540 --> 05:55:35.180
so let's go ahead and get you into the game.

05:55:35.180 --> 05:55:37.140
I'll throw it over to my friends over there,

05:55:37.140 --> 05:55:39.380
Mr. Snare, and the only one percenter

05:55:39.380 --> 05:55:42.380
that I know is a reptile, and that is Lizard.

05:55:42.380 --> 05:55:46.380
Thank you very much, Slacks and KP.

05:55:46.380 --> 05:55:49.660
As we just saw, first blood was drawn by the side of Bed Boomers.

05:55:49.660 --> 05:55:51.420
Nightfall did end up going down.

05:55:51.420 --> 05:55:53.300
Big Liz, my favorite reptile.

05:55:53.300 --> 05:55:57.300
Looking at these drafts, what do you make of this? Who do you give the advantage to you?

05:55:57.300 --> 05:56:03.300
Oh, I kind of take what Slag said with some seriousness sometimes.

05:56:03.300 --> 05:56:08.300
And this time around, ease of execution for me is always important, right?

05:56:08.300 --> 05:56:12.300
Not only for us players, but for competitive scene as well.

05:56:12.300 --> 05:56:17.300
I feel like ease of execution is even more so important when you are playing on this high of a level.

05:56:17.300 --> 05:56:21.300
And it seems to be on the side of Aurora.

05:56:21.300 --> 05:56:25.300
The big circles are there. You have the egg, you have the arena,

05:56:25.300 --> 05:56:28.300
Queen of Pain looking really strong in the current meta.

05:56:28.300 --> 05:56:32.300
But maybe the circle breaker truly is the Oracle on the other side

05:56:32.300 --> 05:56:35.300
because you can throw all your Rulties.

05:56:35.300 --> 05:56:38.300
He just presses one button, uses it on the Monkey King.

05:56:38.300 --> 05:56:41.300
One spell from the Monkey King and he's full HP.

05:56:41.300 --> 05:56:44.300
It's very difficult. This is an old-school combo

05:56:44.300 --> 05:56:48.140
combo that has always been extremely difficult to deal with like Oracle plus

05:56:48.140 --> 05:56:53.420
monkey King Oracle plus any hero that has built-in regeneration or healing much

05:56:53.420 --> 05:56:57.460
as her the for the Oracle they have a dawnbreaker as well so Mero will be able

05:56:57.460 --> 05:57:01.300
to show up anytime I imagine that the game is gonna be played like whenever

05:57:01.300 --> 05:57:04.620
WS goes in with the arena you wait for him to arena first and then you just

05:57:04.620 --> 05:57:07.860
solo Guardian directly on top of it I think there's just a lot of angles from

05:57:07.860 --> 05:57:12.380
Aurora that they need to get to and need to get some farm to exploit tiny

05:57:12.380 --> 05:57:17.660
having a very quick shadow blade or maybe even a blink in this kind of a game will be instrumental

05:57:17.660 --> 05:57:21.500
same with the line so that you have a couple of ways of jumping the back lines of course.

05:57:23.420 --> 05:57:28.300
Honestly what Makoto is going to do here this disgusting ridiculous queen of pain

05:57:29.500 --> 05:57:34.220
just been doing so much top lane mirror almost died here Akiritech won't be able to catch up

05:57:34.220 --> 05:57:39.340
but Kataomi gets him with the purifying flames very nice kill to pick up the Kataomi.

05:57:39.340 --> 05:57:42.660
Yeah, you could argue that this isn't really a bad lane for Mars plus Lion.

05:57:42.660 --> 05:57:46.940
Like, you're playing Mars into Monkey, you have the spear away for when the Jingostacks are up,

05:57:46.940 --> 05:57:50.580
also Oracle isn't that great before level 3,

05:57:50.580 --> 05:57:57.020
but they actually managed to kill the Lion before that level 2 Purifying Flame, so a pretty big W for Edgum.

05:57:58.860 --> 05:58:01.900
An interesting account to tell me is sort of pivoted to just playing these,

05:58:01.900 --> 05:58:08.060
like the pure Position 5 healers, protectors, you know, your Liches, Winter Wyvern, Oracle.

05:58:08.060 --> 05:58:15.260
I mean, this is how a position fire should be played. Oracle, Winter Byron, you know, these high-skill heroes.

05:58:15.260 --> 05:58:21.660
Because some of these spells can backfire. Cold Embrace, you're stuck in a spot for quite some time.

05:58:21.660 --> 05:58:28.360
Fate Seedict, it actually disarms again. So it got reverted to its original state.

05:58:28.360 --> 05:58:35.660
You have to be careful how you use it. Like, disarming Monkey King before he has, Jingo Stacks could be pretty bad.

05:58:38.060 --> 05:58:40.060
On the other side of the map, Miro and Save.

05:58:40.060 --> 05:58:42.060
Just doing their thing.

05:58:42.060 --> 05:58:43.060
Hey, look!

05:58:43.060 --> 05:58:45.060
Phoenix is not going to die by 5 minutes.

05:58:45.060 --> 05:58:47.060
They love to see it.

05:58:47.060 --> 05:58:49.060
Yeah, he didn't die, but he's carried it.

05:58:49.060 --> 05:58:52.060
So I think maybe this is the worst situation

05:58:52.060 --> 05:58:54.060
for them down on the bottom lane

05:58:54.060 --> 05:58:56.060
because Save did get that first blood right on the tiny.

05:58:56.060 --> 05:59:00.060
And probably the most interesting player

05:59:00.060 --> 05:59:03.060
currently off the tournament for me is Save.

05:59:03.060 --> 05:59:05.060
No matter what hero he is playing,

05:59:05.060 --> 05:59:07.060
he's always flashy.

05:59:07.060 --> 05:59:12.060
He always makes a lot of plays the Windranger last time he played it was massive rubik as well

05:59:15.340 --> 05:59:17.340
Kiritid eating some damage top lane

05:59:17.660 --> 05:59:22.060
It will get the hex out onto Katou only but the already expended the spirit comes back right now

05:59:22.060 --> 05:59:24.060
But Katou we should be in a safe place

05:59:24.300 --> 05:59:29.360
It's gonna just gonna play heroes that buy mage slayer deso because he's been playing cares monkey

05:59:29.360 --> 05:59:31.360
He's literally been building the same way every game

05:59:31.860 --> 05:59:33.380
and

05:59:33.380 --> 05:59:39.900
There's something to be said about Meta not being formed only about around heroes but also around items and

05:59:40.460 --> 05:59:45.160
If an item is good and your hero can naturally build it

05:59:45.660 --> 05:59:50.940
That hero instantly becomes strong if you remember a couple patches ago with a blade mill

05:59:50.940 --> 05:59:53.500
I'd like anyone who built a blade mill was strong

05:59:53.500 --> 05:59:56.340
Well that thought save is gonna have to show up middle top lane to shine safe

05:59:56.340 --> 06:00:01.120
Kiritage Kiritage trying to dodge some of the spells of meter, but we'll still end up dead now Katoumi

06:00:01.120 --> 06:00:05.300
You also eat some harass here, safe, trying to run down Mira through the blood grenade

06:00:05.300 --> 06:00:07.940
on top of him, but WS is now harassing Katoumi.

06:00:07.940 --> 06:00:09.640
They get that kill first.

06:00:09.640 --> 06:00:14.940
Although safe does eventually bring down Mira, Aurora, get the balance of the top lane back

06:00:14.940 --> 06:00:15.940
in their favor.

06:00:15.940 --> 06:00:20.640
WS is very happy with everything that has happened, in the end she gets a solo experience

06:00:20.640 --> 06:00:21.640
as well.

06:00:21.640 --> 06:00:25.040
Okay, the Rune does go towards GPK.

06:00:25.040 --> 06:00:28.340
This is a very interesting lane as well on the mid lane, Queen of Pain versus Bango.

06:00:28.340 --> 06:00:36.340
It used to be an uninhabitable lane for the Pango, when the Queen of Pain was used as a complete counter to him.

06:00:36.340 --> 06:00:43.340
As you can see, the CS is still pretty good for Mikoto, he's winning the lane, but it's nowhere nearly as oppressive as it used to be.

06:00:43.340 --> 06:00:47.340
Mainly because Pango is just a busted hero right now.

06:00:47.340 --> 06:00:53.340
He's also building Meshli on Pango, so we're doubling up on this item for the side of Betoom.

06:00:53.340 --> 06:00:57.820
I mean, maybe he could have opted for the Fusel instead, on the Pangolier,

06:00:57.820 --> 06:01:01.980
just so you don't double it up between the Monkey King and him.

06:01:01.980 --> 06:01:07.180
I think that was an option, because both are really good on Pangol.

06:01:07.180 --> 06:01:12.940
I feel, when you do go for Mateslayer, you don't suffer as much when it comes to resources.

06:01:12.940 --> 06:01:18.780
That's a small little part of Mateslayer that people don't maybe talk about too much.

06:01:18.780 --> 06:01:21.420
Like, you buy Ring of Health, you buy Void Stone.

06:01:21.420 --> 06:01:25.900
So it keeps you on the map. It helps as a farming item as well.

06:01:28.140 --> 06:01:33.980
But those shrine wisdoms collected dutifully by both sides. No real contests.

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In one of the first games we've seen that nobody is even trying to fight for it.

06:01:37.020 --> 06:01:39.900
At least no playoffs. And the group stages was much more calm.

06:01:39.900 --> 06:01:42.140
Playoffs have been really ridiculous at mid-7.

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The stakes are a little bit higher. Invading the wisdom shrine.

06:01:46.220 --> 06:01:49.980
Unless you have a really high advantage is usually ill-advised.

06:01:51.420 --> 06:01:57.420
Even sometimes I see a lot of teams just waste all the advantage they got in the laning stage

06:01:57.420 --> 06:02:02.420
on the safe lane by trying to invade the enemy's wisdom shrine, so probably for the best, not too.

06:02:07.420 --> 06:02:10.420
Only 5 kills so far, relatively calm game.

06:02:12.420 --> 06:02:14.420
Nothing seems too surprising so far.

06:02:14.420 --> 06:02:20.540
SAVE does have access to the earner shout-out and he's going for the full vessel here.

06:02:20.540 --> 06:02:24.020
Mikoto will get rooted, but shouldn't be in too much trouble.

06:02:24.020 --> 06:02:26.020
Kaori also has the Icarus dive away.

06:02:27.220 --> 06:02:28.720
This is one of the things that's going to be annoying.

06:02:28.720 --> 06:02:31.920
Oh, SAVE!

06:02:31.920 --> 06:02:33.220
From the parking lot.

06:02:33.220 --> 06:02:37.620
Damn, the 360 no-scope coming out of this Windranger.

06:02:38.820 --> 06:02:40.720
Mikoto was trying to play on the edge.

06:02:40.720 --> 06:02:51.520
Basically, he was losing a lot of HP just by pure spam, and they brought four heroes to secure their rune in the end, of course, Queen of Pain wasn't positioned to dodge the power shot.

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This is great as well. GPK is gonna just go ahead and steal some of the triangle.

06:02:57.280 --> 06:03:02.220
Contrary aggressive to the ancients just yet, but they might go top, save his moving in that direction.

06:03:02.880 --> 06:03:07.840
WS is alone, but he doesn't have an observable ward that's scouting the movement from save, so he'll be fine.

06:03:07.980 --> 06:03:10.300
This is the second set of stacks that he has stolen.

06:03:10.720 --> 06:03:17.600
Like he is just invading the triangle very often, of course it's like he said not the ancient stack that he is stealing, but still it's a hit

06:03:18.400 --> 06:03:24.600
To the economy of Aurora one thing when it comes to Aurora and the heroes they have drafted like

06:03:25.560 --> 06:03:31.140
Probably the most improved even though he was already in a really good spot is this guy nightfall has been

06:03:31.640 --> 06:03:37.020
Amazing on the carry roll for half a year now one of the main reasons why they had that undefeated run

06:03:37.020 --> 06:03:42.540
I feel like he played in such an active way on most of his position once

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Tiny however, it takes a bit of time

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Like you can assist your teammates, but you don't have toss you don't max it out

06:03:50.460 --> 06:03:52.860
Tree throw is what you're going for so

06:03:53.300 --> 06:03:57.660
More often than not you're waiting for at least the Echo Saber before moving from the lane

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Do you think you'll do the make a build where it goes back for the blink dagger before finishing the server edge?

06:04:03.340 --> 06:04:04.820
I could see it happening this game

06:04:04.820 --> 06:04:10.820
I could see it happening because of the oracle, like you have to jump the backlines then.

06:04:10.820 --> 06:04:19.820
The thing is, he has heroes that can't do that for him, so it's not really a forced item for the Tiny, it's completely on his comfort zone.

06:04:19.820 --> 06:04:23.820
Out of a contest here for this rune, Arcane will be picked up by GPK.

06:04:23.820 --> 06:04:27.820
They found a Hexon to save, but can't help me immediately there with the Dispel and the Edict.

06:04:27.820 --> 06:04:28.820
Ars is here.

06:04:28.820 --> 06:04:32.820
Ars is here, but doesn't have a blink dagger, no easy entry point into the fight.

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and this will feel good for Bedboom team right? Mars had to TP out, that's a free way for Kitteditch,

06:04:40.820 --> 06:04:44.820
more safety for the monkey, and you got vision on where most of Aurora is right now.

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GPK got the rune as well right? Like he got the Arcane rune,

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and the TKM pressure with now, with the Cartoon on the mid lane.

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They might choose to go elsewhere, since they know for a fact that WS had to TP top,

06:04:58.820 --> 06:05:03.820
they know it's not available for the site bottom, so they're gonna smoke and try to surprise Nightfall here.

06:05:03.820 --> 06:05:12.820
It's a cool play because usually you don't expect that the scan is there, like the idea is good, Nightfall did read it, he's TPing out to the tier 2 actually, he TPs.

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Why is it so cool? Because very rarely are you connecting to the Dawnbreaker, especially when she has her ult, right?

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Like you're always trying to find a place somewhere else on the map because he can TP in for free with Solar Guardian.

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It was a sneaky attempt, didn't work at the end.

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They'll have to just content themselves with a tier 1 tower.

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I honestly think that they brought one hero too many.

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Some day after like camp mid to kill them a little bit.

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Yeah, someone needed to show mid.

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Nightfall knows us up, he's back safe, the rest of his team is pressuring this tier 1 tower middle.

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They shouldn't be able to take it completely, but they all whittle it down.

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On the other side though they do grab the tier 1, opening up more space for Mero.

06:05:57.940 --> 06:06:03.440
He's going for a bit of a different build here. We've seen a couple of different atomizations on the Dawn.

06:06:03.440 --> 06:06:05.940
We've seen Echo, we've seen straight Aghanim's.

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Armlet, right?

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Armlet build.

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I feel like whatever you go for on the Dawnbreaker, it mostly goes back to just the right legs that you've got.

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But the last time he bought Armlet, he had Aghanim's after in his quick buy, and he got the Ags.

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So it's not really a common build to see the Aghanim's Dawn.

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We'll see. Maybe he sees something here. Aghanim vs the arena is pretty good, right?

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They use the arena, you have your Aghanim's ulti to follow through, negate all of that AOE damage on the other side.

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Makoto, he is going to be going for the Kayle. We have definitely seen this build change.

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early on everyone was rushing bloodstone or rushing eggs. Last couple of games we've seen

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the Kairan, to Kair Sanj, Kair Yasha. People are just trying to play more actively with this hero,

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and why wouldn't you? This thing just does absurd amount of damage. I don't think that there's

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like a consensus on what the best item build is for every single game. I still think it's

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kind of comes down to the player and the feel when it comes to co-op, but the thing is

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whatever you're going for no matter what item you're buying I feel like this

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hero like you said just way too much damage it feels good so it's nice to

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have like some different ways of building her but the soul ring is

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actually a major part of why the hero feels so them busted you get a lot of

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farm very early on because of the soul ring span you can sustain your

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resources very easily

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already before the supernova and they make it happen.

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Shackle shot, mashed onto WS,

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preventing a good arena from him,

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saved already with the focus fire.

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You need a little bit more damage, but GPK with the roll,

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will be able to secure the kill.

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It's a double for him

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and another small skirmish, one by Beppu.

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I had some play to go on a target

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that just purchased Blinkbacker, right?

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Like he just completed the Blink, but they bring the action to him.

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They initiate first.

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Pango has always been one of those heroes that is

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that are difficult for Mars to deal with, rolling thunder, like you can't really use the arena

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it's just going to stun you anyway, and the initiation on Phoenix was just perfect.

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What do you think is benefited right now with this somewhat more slower pace of the early game?

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I feel like it's even, both teams are pretty much happy to just chill and continue farming

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I don't think that there is like a massive clear winner

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But if you are Aurora you must feel itchy to use all these big olds

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I'm gonna try use it first right now to cut her or me. Link dagger revealed on him

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So guys, but happy to give this up. They're actually gonna bring the solar guardian in onto the Pangalya

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They will miss with the initial stun

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But the star breaker forward catches onto Mira as well as the Mars

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Shackle shot connect Mars and the tiny both of them are in trouble right now

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Nicoto did his best with the sonic waves to push back the rest of that boom

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But it's not enough to get a kill Kaoru supernova also goes off

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Aurora retreat trading 2 for 1.

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The arena zones them out a little bit, but it wasn't there in tandem with the arena.

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The arena was only on the Windranger in the end, so a lot of big spells used on Aurora, but only on supports.

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So everyone else was just free to play whatever they wanted and however they wanted to.

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The double mage slayer actually, at this early portions of the game, is instrumental.

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Right, like it gives a lot of utility to the pangu and to the monkey king.

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Uh oh, Niffl, he's underneath an observable ward right now. GPK wanting to chase, be quite back just in time.

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He's reading their moves really well. Of course, he had the words, right, K.O.R.E. He did plant one.

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K.O.R.E. under vision.

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WS, just wants to get back for BKB.

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Mira would love to be able to finish off the blink dagger as well, so maybe we don't fight

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just yet, we'll wait for the Sonic wave to come back online before we try something.

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Smoke Codo, they force him out, okay, so back to this just more passive stage of the

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game, save once the finish off will vessel.

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By the way dude, how do you actually deal with these shackle shots that are coming

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Does somebody have to build Lotus in a taunt?

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Oh, Gakura's dive actually catches Kiriti, takes him off the tree.

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Where is the follow-up though? Avalanche will be there.

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Unfortunately, the Maas has to pop the arena in a different part of the fight,

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giving Kiriti time to get off the Wukong's command.

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Mira, in the meantime, ends up falling.

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Here comes Mirao with the Starbreaker, cancels out the TP of WS,

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and yet again, that boom, responds incredibly.

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Despite a very good start to that fight, it looks very promising, but at the end...

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Anytime you stun the monkey off for three, it feels like a free fight after, especially next to a tower as well for them, but still...

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Not even an oracle ulti was necessary, by the way. It was just chilling. False promise, wasn't used, wasn't necessary.

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They're just not finding the right ways of dealing with the supports, first and foremost, and then anyone else.

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There's just not enough damage. There's too much reduction on the other side.

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Like, I know panel a couple of times talked about fadebolt reduction, mace layer reduction, a lot of different items as well, underlord being played, but even Oracle, right, with fade seeded, all the magic resistance is pretty nice.

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Sorry Kari, what can you do?

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And this game it was so even and so like balanced, you know everyone's just farming, but that

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move seems to have just kicked it into high gear right now.

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Spirit vessel finished for save, armlet complete for Miro.

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Almost has the Echo Saber as well so maybe the right-clicking threat is on the Blund Breaker.

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That boomer, a pretty hard team to play like this very standard five-man combo against

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like arena aggs, you know, like these normal big circle ulties,

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because they play their lanes very well, and they play fast after the lanes.

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So it's hard to combine everything properly against them,

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but they're so mechanically on point.

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And another issue, whenever you have these combos,

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like a Mars arena with the agg,

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they are easy to execute, but they're also very easy to anticipate.

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So the team that plays against you usually tries to spread their line team

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so that no two heroes are caught at the same time in the arena, and so far that's been the case.

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It's just like one hero and that's a wind ranger that gets caught. She just used windrun and...

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Looks like they are gonna aggress towards bottom on the side of Bedboom.

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Nice little hacks onto GPK before he can find the rolling thunder, but

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probably gonna end up dead regardless to GPK and Katalmi.

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On the other side, save while shadowing WS, hoping to catch him with the shackle.

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but he blinked throughout the spear and he will be safe.

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Amira is really not having a great game.

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He's trying to get to his blink dagger.

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I mean, it's pretty 20 minutes, it's acceptable, but he has five deaths already.

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Not the first time that I'm seeing him kind of struggle on the line, honestly.

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I've seen a couple of the games recently.

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Nightfall was being looked at by Kiritich.

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We're not gonna jump him just yet.

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By the way, Nightfall, he's been really good at dodging these ganks.

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He dodged another one top where they scanned on the triangle.

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Just before they went through all that mobs, they were looking for him, but he's playing safely.

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Do you think it's just like his experience having played against Bedboob so many times in the past?

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I think overall, they had decent vision, and he has of course a lot of experience against them.

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And he has no BKB to TP out with, so he has to be playing very carefully.

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Bedroom. Back into farming. GPK has this amplified damage, would love to be able to use it, and

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Kiriti just shown up, so expect it all going to try and go for a play here.

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Gepmira has to be careful.

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Gepmira, it's an Invis room that gets snagged up by GPK and Mira, yeah maybe you haven't

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regretted that decision. It's like oh god, we're tired, your bedroom is already

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here. WS once again has to flee.

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Murai is just poking the bear, you know?

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He's the only hero there.

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He goes in and uses like a spell on the line.

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Like, I don't know how else that scenario ends, ever.

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It's like, there are players in Dota,

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by the way, Tormentor is falling.

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There are players in Dota that will on purpose

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do things that look absolutely insane.

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Like they'll walk alone into the enemy triangle

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charging at you.

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And the bluff itself sometimes works.

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like you're like okay this guy can't be alone and maybe that was the idea like he's going to hex him pale and

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they will try to disengage. McLean they have the pressure out onto nightfall here they bring in

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a solar guardian they catch him with a shackle shot they burst him down that was also the shot

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that they just got from the tormentor immediately proving to be value with the gale force

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yeah the shark probably better on the wind ranger the other one on the support the

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Rain of destiny. I mean Oracle just isn't played so I don't value the shard too highly

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But it might just be all right in any he lamp is okay

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It's got a blink by the way

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So the Oracle has a blink before a lion the position five has an earlier blink timer than the lion

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And it just becomes increasingly harder to find him

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As we saw it's 90 seconds faster than the previous fastest on Kata only, but Lyon finally does

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have the blink available.

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So they have what they need to fight, they have blink online, they have supernova available

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level 2 on Kaori on the scenics.

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Or that's do you need to wait for the DKB on WS or are you strong enough to try and

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go now?

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I think they're strong enough.

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I don't think that you can wait all too much longer, they're losing full map control

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5k difference in network as well.

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There is that smoke.

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What are they gonna go on?

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Katohumi might be the one that gets found here, but he has a blink, gets away from WS.

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That must have been very surprising for Amaz, like, what the hell?

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The oracle has blinked?

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Look, that's the perfect target, right?

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Like, the only reason maybe why he's even showing is because he has blink.

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But...

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He's just had a good game, died two times but has eight assists on the Oracle, the Blink is already there, is able to even break smokes now.

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It's not over of course for Aurora. They are getting towards a couple of big items, like you mentioned, the BKB on Mars, BKB on Tiny will be done shortly as well.

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I think it's the nightfall on the Tiny that can be the surprise factor.

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Like he can be the X factor that perhaps catches one of the supports off guard with a shadow blade playing.

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BKB is the first one of the game will come out from Miro, so he's ready to get involved in the next fight.

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Yet again, Radiant Scan.

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I suspect the third scan of this game that has landed clutch onto these get-goon heroes.

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So whoever's making a call to get the scan is probably Nightfall,

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the map pinger himself?

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Or rolling thunder even committed.

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For Mikoro by the way.

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Won't catch him.

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They saw full agonies in the courier

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but no one could reach to kill it.

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That would be massive because it's a full agonies

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for a green crane that was flying out of her.

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Might need to use it.

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That one needed to use the Roshan pick.

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Will you both smoke up Honorora?

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They want to get there, but they will be way too slow.

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There's a BKB on timing.

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This could be a good timing for them.

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It's too late.

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The Desolator doing its work from the Monkey King.

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Maybe you can still fight this?

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I don't know, Gang.

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I don't know.

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Okay, maybe it's because Miro doesn't have very low mana at the moment, so it doesn't

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have too many resources on the Dawnbreaker.

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Look at the Oracle.

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Just breaking the smoke on the high ground.

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Oh gosh.

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He gets out.

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Narura might be able to connect with this smoke right now.

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Aegis and Tofa Q to Titch.

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She'll go to the other side of the map, start building into his eye of Scotty.

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This must be really frustrating to play, right?

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You picked a draft specifically to be able to teamfight and to win these teamfights,

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but then Bedboom's like, okay, cool, we'll just never fight you in a fair situation.

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Yeah, it's just because they're a little too slow.

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That's it.

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team like BatBomb gets any sort of an advantage, they run with it and it's hard to find the

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right approach to find the right play when they're dodging you 24-7.

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You're always like, you're getting the items but you're getting them 10 seconds too late.

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Ah, this is something else we didn't talk about, the Dispel on the Queen of Pain

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Shadow Strike, okay?

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It's pretty big.

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The first thing when I see a draft that's playing into a co-op, the first thing that I think

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of is how many heroes do they have with built-in dispels?

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I feel yesterday we had a game with poor built-in dispels in the game, actually five because

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Altium has two.

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So, versus a co-op, it's Master.

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Altium means you don't have to buy that loader's orb to help you out, just get

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it for free.

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Nightfall, still moving around the map. I'm able to find anybody. Does have his BKB though.

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Doing a really good job of dodging ganks. Just trying to maintain pace with the farm.

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I'm really worried about this Marsman. We've all seen these horror games of Mars where 30 minutes go by,

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he's only participated in like 5 kills and then the hero just doesn't have impact going forward.

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Do you think it's still the same way in this patch right now?

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It's still pretty much the same. It's the blink BKB syndrome Mars

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We're the whole game. That's the only two items that you have

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until the end

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It does have a BKB, you know and the blinks and the tiny by the way with the blink of his own

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So okay, he recognized that they cannot start things off properly gets the blink instead of the harpoon

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The damage output of course with this kind of a build on tiny is a bit lower a lot

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lower than it usually is from position one tiny and he has bkb and he has a blink he didn't

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complete silver edge and he didn't complete harpoon so just missing a lot of items

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i think you rely on your queen of pain you're like brother i need you to dishing the hurt for me

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do you think that's like the correct approach i i i guess they do have the damage right even

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without him i think the thing that you were mentioning about not being able to find the

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the fights earlier you know when you saw WS only getting one hero with the arena

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this is a way to at least make sure that we can take the fight to two

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different locations. The concern I have though is this is predicated on you know

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Lion also landing his spells. If Lion dies early in the fight then you just

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don't have any damage then. He's been dying quite a bit. He did just by

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himself a ghost scepter on Lion by the way. He's helped out a little bit with

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all the physical damage that's coming from the other side. Like when you

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When you look at Batwombs draft, actually it's majority of the damage is physical, like they don't really have a lot of magical damage at all.

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Was your WSB looking towards like some AC Shevas? Yes, she was queued up, but would you prefer that or AC?

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I think Shevas is good, but maybe an AC on Mars because Shevas is being queued up by Phoenix already, and he's got platemail.

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There isn't anything else on the Phoenix that you want to buy.

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I mean, you can buy Loads as well, but I think she was on Phoenix and A.C. on Mars would be perfect for this game.

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Katomi just started getting some vision bottom.

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Kiritich is farming mid. Most of Gepuma are inside the Rage of Jungle.

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Nice follow show. Just to get Fortune's ended.

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this must be so annoying the range of these two spells man power shot and the

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focus and the fortunes in makes it so difficult to play on the edges of the

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map they want to fight this they just can't find the angle and I'm not even

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sure if this is a good fight before Aegis is gone which it will be in

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about 20 seconds now so maybe a smoke opportunity but they need

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Makoro the key is the majority of their damage

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Oh my god, himself is being hunted down.

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Save! Will you find the Shackle now?

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It's on bot?

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Yeah, it will be fine.

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Down bottom, WS and NEM jumped forward, but everybody has mobility.

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There's a blink dagger on Oracle, he's out, save already TPed out.

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Actually, while you were watching top, they forced out the BKB from Monkey.

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Ooh!

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So, yeah, sure, he did get away, but he lost the Aegis and, I mean, the Aegis was reclaimed,

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and he was forced into a BKB, so this now opens up the map for Aurora.

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I would be surprised if they didn't go and try to force a fight.

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You have now, Mira, around the Shrine of Wisdom.

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If Wukong's not commandant, Tiny's gonna jump in, blink to the back line, he finds Kata only. That's what they need right now.

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WS, getting the arena out, Finger of Death is there, Spear to Oslo, Sonic Wave as well, Makoto!

06:23:45.080 --> 06:23:50.080
Able to bring down Kiritage, exploiting that lack of PKB, like you said.

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Even with the Pieback, like from the Oracle, by the way, they still don't save the monkey.

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the monkey. This was... Aurora are pretty damn good at exploiting a single little thing that's missing

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from your puzzle, right? Like just one BKB charge is all that was needed for them to force and they

06:24:08.440 --> 06:24:16.680
instantly went on them, so... and Lion, the hero that has been dying this whole time, is the one

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that set things up. Look at me, I'm just a Lion here, you know, like please kill me, I want

06:24:21.320 --> 06:24:25.560
the wisdom shrine but instead he was actually setting up on the monkey buying time

06:24:27.480 --> 06:24:31.480
that's why you go for those intimidation plays and then later you make it work and then you say yeah

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that's why he died six times so he thinks that is so that the monkey thinks he can kill him easily

06:24:37.240 --> 06:24:39.800
i'm just food bro come get some snacks

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it's kind of crazy that they were spending so much of their map playing

06:24:44.840 --> 06:24:48.440
of some of their time playing on their side of the map one bkb charge goes down

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All of a sudden, they've taken it here to the tower.

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One BKB charge and a pretty good play by the tiny of course as well to find the Oracle to anticipate where he's going to be relatively to the Bunky King.

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The thing is they were completely on the right side of the map, so he didn't really have a lot of places to hide in as an Oracle.

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He had to be on the ramp.

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That's one of those plays that immediately justifies the Blink Dagger.

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He's going to be getting to his next items anyway.

06:25:14.440 --> 06:25:19.280
isn't the offing just needs to finish off the demon edge has the harpoon still

06:25:19.280 --> 06:25:24.000
carrying a nine second DKB charge honestly a pretty crucial fight exactly

06:25:24.000 --> 06:25:31.480
something that they needed after the ages that they gave away so if we're not

06:25:31.480 --> 06:25:34.160
gonna have that boom breaking the game open here in the mid game what does the

06:25:34.160 --> 06:25:37.080
scaling look like as this game goes later and later I mean one side is what

06:25:37.080 --> 06:25:41.200
tiny better than monkey and the pango I was just thinking about it I feel

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I feel like scaling is pretty good on both sides, but the X factor for me might be the

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Dawnbreaker.

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I feel like this hero eventually becomes scary in a lot of our games, like when you look

06:25:54.120 --> 06:26:00.120
at the damage output and the farm the Dawnbreaker finds, it can tip the scales.

06:26:00.120 --> 06:26:03.760
If you look at this game as well, look at the top net worth.

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Just finished a Bachelor as well, waiting for the Abyssal Blade.

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is actually pretty damn rich on the Dawnbreaker.

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I really like this Abyssal, because looking at their draft, they do have control, but it's like sort of high-skill control, right?

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Rolling Thunder has to go through, you need to land a shackle shot.

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They don't have this simple, I just click this button and this person stands still for a second.

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I'd like them to maybe think about the nullifier on someone as well.

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Like when it comes to the little heroes that they have, no one really wants to buy it, but everyone can.

06:26:34.040 --> 06:26:39.720
If you can buy it on Pango, you can buy it on the Monkey King, you are already playing into one ghost scepter.

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It's not only a 3k gold lead for the side of Bedboom, nightfall, neck and neck with the dawnbreaker.

06:26:51.480 --> 06:26:57.520
And we WS in the core department that's really struggling for Aurora, but they still are able to involve him here and there.

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They're trying to force a fight, they bait out the roar, they have a full scuddy of course in the Monkey King now.

06:27:02.800 --> 06:27:05.960
So scuddy desolator this monkey already hurts

06:27:07.660 --> 06:27:13.080
He said the smoke on smoke action monkey king will break this smoke they go directly onto double USC doesn't get off

06:27:13.080 --> 06:27:19.920
It's PKB in time shackle shop will be this food vessel on top. He goes down mirror ends up following him into the grave

06:27:20.880 --> 06:27:22.080
heritage

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Well yesterday we saw he was playing kids primarily because people were banning the monkey against them today

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He gets the monkey and I think it might create some problems and dropping against them going forward

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Look at the radio the dire words on the map. I feel like honestly, this is illegal

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By the vision that they have is just ridiculous considering. There's a rush on about to spawn

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What the hell do they have a cliff word next to the triangle for to push back Makoto?

06:27:48.800 --> 06:27:50.880
He does have DKD will be forced into using it

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Maybe hoping to try and bring down save let's blink in a second. We can't get out of here

06:27:55.800 --> 06:28:03.060
Although Katal me blinking forward fortune's end but nobody's there to fight for me did he scouted out

06:28:03.060 --> 06:28:08.720
His BKB will be forced as well if he's not careful. Yeah, I say if couldn't go in in time. They're still chasing though

06:28:10.000 --> 06:28:15.000
Get it itch boundless strike. That's the crab. There's been a calm down mirror with the solar guardian

06:28:15.000 --> 06:28:20.040
They really want to catch up tonight for their force will be there that will indeed force out the BKB like he said

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I don't think, of course, they were hoping to get a kill here, but just forcing the BKB is the most realistic outcome.

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These words need to be de-worded, like, I'm not really sure. I can't remember the last time I saw the words as impactful as the tires.

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Kiddetich, right next to WS, WS does also still have BKB if necessary.

06:28:45.760 --> 06:28:49.260
Shackle shot, beautifully placed, coming out of save.

06:28:49.260 --> 06:28:51.100
There's gonna be a jump back by GBK.

06:28:51.100 --> 06:28:54.060
He's looking towards the Kaori Phoenix, but he does get off the Supernova.

06:28:54.060 --> 06:28:56.440
Mikoto pushes them all back with the Sonic Wave.

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Boss promise, put out onto GBK, so he's gonna stay alive.

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Kiddetich will rely on his Aegis, and see if they want to keep this fight going.

06:29:03.680 --> 06:29:07.240
Borchine's in on Kaori, Mero's thinking about jumping deeper in,

06:29:07.240 --> 06:29:09.240
and he's gonna go in all the way towards Mita,

06:29:09.240 --> 06:29:16.240
but at the same time Nightfall goes back, catches off Kiddage, he tosses the monkey on the Oracle, kills them both.

06:29:16.240 --> 06:29:18.740
Only one life away from Kiddage.

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The rolling thunder though.

06:29:19.940 --> 06:29:24.240
Boundless strike with the rolling thunder enables them to kill Kaori and WS.

06:29:24.240 --> 06:29:28.740
So Offlaner plus support, Neerax, blink onto the high ground, gets a hex off,

06:29:28.740 --> 06:29:31.740
but he knows that he might be in danger. Oh no, he just set up!

06:29:31.740 --> 06:29:35.240
Nightfall and Mikodo follow up directly onto the monkey king.

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Because, Pangolier, he teeped out. Like, he used the rolling thunder to somewhat assist the Monkey King after the ages,

06:29:42.520 --> 06:29:46.520
but then he just started teeping away, and Monkey King got caught by Lion.

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This is, once again, a very favorable fight. Of course, for Aurora, even though they were under vision,

06:29:52.200 --> 06:29:59.720
even though, like, they had all the info and the ages on Bed Boom, they still couldn't win versus the Arena Egg combo.

06:29:59.720 --> 06:30:04.360
That Arena Egg combo right there just won the fight. The Egg was perfect.

06:30:04.360 --> 06:30:11.360
And the worst part that you can do in a teamfight is commit hard on the Yag, on the Phoenix actually, not on the Yag.

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Commit hard on the Phoenix and then he still manages to use the Yag.

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It's like the worst thing because now you don't have anything for the Yag as well, and you've lost too much of the tempo.

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Watch your guys. Watch watch, they're faking up, they're faking up.

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Okay. They definitely did.

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Shout out Nightfall, you knew us up here, and it wasn't even close, right?

06:30:32.620 --> 06:30:35.440
The supernova came well before their feelings was in real danger.

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Yeah, the rolling thunder was on top of him.

06:30:38.200 --> 06:30:42.400
Maybe they tried to... I think the shackles didn't really connect properly.

06:30:42.400 --> 06:30:48.160
The idea was probably to connect the two with the shackles, but the control just wasn't there.

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And again we see Nightfall justifying this blink dagger.

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Creating beautiful conditions for this fight.

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Yeah, getting closer to Daedalus now is well, by the way.

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Tiny is...

06:31:02.320 --> 06:31:04.820
He's basically in the one-shot city now.

06:31:05.900 --> 06:31:10.020
Level 23, he hits for a bazillion damage already.

06:31:10.020 --> 06:31:13.020
If you're a support and he sees you, you're as good as gone.

06:31:14.960 --> 06:31:16.140
Well, that boom...

06:31:16.140 --> 06:31:19.720
We can control a majority of this game, but the balance of power is shifted.

06:31:20.060 --> 06:31:22.060
Aurora feel ascendance at the moment.

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And we pretty much have it. The Daedalus will be finished after this ancient camp.

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And there we go. Nightfall.

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Now Behemoth in the damage dealing department just needs the recipe delivered.

06:31:34.340 --> 06:31:38.340
As a Flayer's Boater as well.

06:31:38.340 --> 06:31:43.180
Do this neutral item. Every time I see it I'm just like, I don't know about this.

06:31:43.180 --> 06:31:46.180
This feels, this active feels a bit busted.

06:31:46.180 --> 06:31:48.180
especially on tiny

06:31:48.180 --> 06:31:51.600
Right because I mean he already has so much base damage

06:31:52.300 --> 06:31:57.340
So getting extra 15% is pretty damn good, but also the 30 attack speed of course

06:31:58.700 --> 06:32:05.500
And he usually kills heroes right like if he's hitting someone with fliers both that the hero is probably dying

06:32:05.660 --> 06:32:08.520
So it can reset the blood thirst as well. It's

06:32:08.520 --> 06:32:16.520
Nice blink away. I'm not sure if you realize how much danger he was in, but it gets out safely.

06:32:16.520 --> 06:32:20.520
They still want to chase down here. WS might be the one that gets caught.

06:32:20.520 --> 06:32:24.520
He blinked back, but he still got caught with the spear. WS goes forward with the arena.

06:32:24.520 --> 06:32:26.520
They only saved us within this at the moment.

06:32:26.520 --> 06:32:29.520
Rolling Thunder coming from GPK, but he gets pushed back.

06:32:29.520 --> 06:32:32.520
Carcatch up to Makoto. Kiritich even activated Wukong.

06:32:32.520 --> 06:32:35.520
Nobody's dying just yet. Save is going to be the one that goes down.

06:32:35.520 --> 06:32:43.120
Now Bedboom Team are gonna be forced to retreat for Akata, Omi die, false promise, took a bunch of damage, he's healing a lot, and he's gonna be fine.

06:32:44.520 --> 06:32:48.520
Yeah, he managed to heal up in the end. But they lose save there.

06:32:49.320 --> 06:32:55.520
GPK has jump, so he knows what's up, he kinda saw it, saw the Tiny coming.

06:32:55.920 --> 06:33:04.520
There's a shard that in most games goes unpurchased, that is making a pretty big difference as well, and that's the one of Queen of Pain.

06:33:04.520 --> 06:33:08.520
Like he's just jumping the supports, jumping the Oracle and silencing him.

06:33:08.520 --> 06:33:13.720
So Katomi, he doesn't really have a chance to even use false promise on anyone else but

06:33:13.720 --> 06:33:14.720
himself.

06:33:14.720 --> 06:33:17.160
He's silenced, he's constantly damaged.

06:33:17.160 --> 06:33:22.200
Even with the A on this, it's not enough.

06:33:22.200 --> 06:33:23.200
Vora.

06:33:23.200 --> 06:33:25.640
A very good spot right now.

06:33:25.640 --> 06:33:26.840
The screen of pain.

06:33:26.840 --> 06:33:30.400
You know, the morning shift calls us build the Exodia.

06:33:30.400 --> 06:33:31.400
All that's missing is the Bloodstone.

06:33:31.400 --> 06:33:34.120
Then we have all the cards available.

06:33:34.120 --> 06:33:36.360
It's a pretty good name, you know.

06:33:37.360 --> 06:33:39.840
The moment you have it, the game crashes, it's over.

06:33:43.640 --> 06:33:46.280
Is there a window perhaps that they've missed on the side of their PumChinio?

06:33:46.280 --> 06:33:47.640
With how the fights have been unfolding?

06:33:48.600 --> 06:33:52.040
Definitely, the first fight after the Aegis, right?

06:33:52.040 --> 06:33:58.800
The first Aegis when they got, I feel like maybe they could have played a bit better post-Aegis,

06:33:58.800 --> 06:34:03.040
but overall, it was on Aurora, technically, properly, and they have.

06:34:03.040 --> 06:34:07.200
save trying to get some scouting done for his team instead he gets caught up

06:34:07.200 --> 06:34:11.600
one second they all beautiful gale force is going to be able to say an aon

06:34:11.600 --> 06:34:15.340
just just comes back in time but he's still gonna die the supernova and the

06:34:15.340 --> 06:34:20.440
sun ring ensuring that save goes down GPK forced to roll in CP out the safety

06:34:20.440 --> 06:34:23.360
and nightfall he's on the other side right now playing aggressively

06:34:23.360 --> 06:34:28.520
Kiritich will find himself in some danger here for to pop the DKB my

06:34:28.520 --> 06:34:31.320
sonic wave from Makoto pushing back bureau can't finish off the

06:34:31.320 --> 06:34:35.300
Starbreaker, Kiddetage activates the Wukong Stamon, they got the epistol blade out, but

06:34:35.300 --> 06:34:39.120
Pekodo's still going in this fight. GPK though on the far side trying to find

06:34:39.120 --> 06:34:43.620
Nightfall, he's inside the arena, can he get out of here? He's being protected by WS.

06:34:43.620 --> 06:34:48.220
GPK can't chase him, eventually though Kataomi brings him down with the

06:34:48.220 --> 06:34:52.420
purifying flames, explosions and combo. But can everybody else escape though?

06:34:52.420 --> 06:34:56.940
GPK, hexed up in the middle of all of these Radiant Heroes, Kiddetage comes

06:34:56.940 --> 06:35:00.420
back to help him out from down here, but to the double sphere from WS,

06:35:00.420 --> 06:35:05.340
Putting these heroes directly on the trees, enabling Makoto to burst them down.

06:35:05.340 --> 06:35:06.340
They melted.

06:35:06.340 --> 06:35:12.420
At the end of the day, it's basically a team wipe, or Rora, still fight strong without their carry timing.

06:35:13.140 --> 06:35:15.700
They were dodging everything so well.

06:35:15.700 --> 06:35:20.420
There's just so much mobility on their side, the four-staff here, four-staff there.

06:35:20.420 --> 06:35:24.420
I don't want to look at the Queen of Pain damage, I know the Queen of Pain, come on.

06:35:25.060 --> 06:35:28.820
Goddamn Queen of Pain, every single game has 10k plus in teamfights.

06:35:28.820 --> 06:35:30.820
That's a disgusting hero.

06:35:30.820 --> 06:35:32.820
Oh my god.

06:35:32.820 --> 06:35:36.820
They dodged everything, the Solar Guardian, the Rolling Thunder, the Arena.

06:35:36.820 --> 06:35:41.820
They just completely disengaged with our pawn with four staffs with all of these small little things that they had.

06:35:41.820 --> 06:35:43.820
Like, double four staff, by the way.

06:35:43.820 --> 06:35:47.820
Goated item on supports that isn't pot enough.

06:35:47.820 --> 06:35:53.820
Usually people go for Glimmers, for Solars, but they played an instrumental part in this teamfight.

06:35:53.820 --> 06:35:58.820
Just look how they disengage from Solar and from Wukong and everything, like rolling thunder as well.

06:35:59.820 --> 06:36:01.820
This was pH perfect execution from them.

06:36:01.820 --> 06:36:08.820
Just circles are trying to get to them. They're just baiting them deeper and deeper into the arena.

06:36:10.820 --> 06:36:14.820
Oh boy. Lane of Arcs, something changed back in real life.

06:36:14.820 --> 06:36:21.820
life. This is, you know, I feel really bad for Q'ed to try because this is not like the

06:36:21.820 --> 06:36:27.100
worst play ever, right? To try and just quickly kill the lion and get out, but WS, oh, perfect

06:36:27.100 --> 06:36:30.420
double spear. Look at the burn from the sun ray as well.

06:36:30.420 --> 06:36:37.380
Oh, that must have felt satisfying. My double spear is definitely one of those, you know,

06:36:37.380 --> 06:36:43.300
one of those spells that... I think that's one of those plays that immediately

06:36:43.300 --> 06:36:48.580
shows off why Mars Phoenix for such a long time was the the go-to duo if you

06:36:48.580 --> 06:36:56.260
could have played in the offlane. There's just some classic hero combos that are

06:36:56.260 --> 06:36:59.340
being played in this tournament and we're happy to see them like Mars Phoenix

06:36:59.340 --> 06:37:04.620
here as well. We've seen a lot of grim doom come back. I wonder if we're gonna

06:37:04.620 --> 06:37:12.100
see some grim lich doom. Good pub stomping. I mean it was a

06:37:12.100 --> 06:37:15.300
There's a competitive stomping draft as well for quite some time.

06:37:17.300 --> 06:37:21.500
Batbomb. Recognizing that this game has really gotten away from them, they're gonna smoke up.

06:37:21.500 --> 06:37:24.900
They wanna get a quick pick, secure the third Roshan.

06:37:25.900 --> 06:37:30.100
But Aurora as usual, just their formation has also been so good.

06:37:30.500 --> 06:37:34.300
Earlier in the game when they were still being picked off one by one by one before they were together,

06:37:34.300 --> 06:37:37.300
yes it was easy to get on top of them, but since they started playing together.

06:37:37.300 --> 06:37:44.100
The thing is, like, that boom right now, I feel like the biggest issue for them is no real area control.

06:37:44.100 --> 06:37:49.620
Like, you have rolling thunder, right? You have gale force, but it isn't enough to keep them in a spot.

06:37:49.620 --> 06:37:54.900
And they desperately need to play around the Wukong's command. Like, if you're a monkey king in this game,

06:37:54.900 --> 06:38:00.900
and you're not playing in the Wukong's command, Tiny is just blowing you up. You basically look like a support next to him.

06:38:02.500 --> 06:38:04.820
That's one of the reasons they did buy that Abyssal blade, but...

06:38:04.820 --> 06:38:07.540
Look, shout out to Mikoto as well.

06:38:07.540 --> 06:38:11.100
He's been reserving the Sonic Wave almost specifically to just push back Miro.

06:38:11.100 --> 06:38:12.100
He was zoning them.

06:38:12.100 --> 06:38:15.860
The zoning Sonic Wave is doing a lot of work this game.

06:38:15.860 --> 06:38:19.460
The true damage dealing spot, of course, for you is the Shadow Strike with the Aghanim's.

06:38:19.460 --> 06:38:22.020
So Sonic Wave can be used defensively.

06:38:22.020 --> 06:38:24.620
Nightfall goes forward, gets a jump onto save.

06:38:24.620 --> 06:38:28.620
The Nibir's Sonic Wave coming out, WS gets a beautiful arena with the spear towards

06:38:28.620 --> 06:38:29.620
save.

06:38:29.620 --> 06:38:30.620
Save is gone.

06:38:30.620 --> 06:38:31.620
Supernova on the high ground.

06:38:31.620 --> 06:38:36.040
Gets the hex combination out onto the dawn breaker. She's gonna die

06:38:36.600 --> 06:38:40.440
Katahomi gets nullified so that a on disc is not gonna help you my friend

06:38:40.880 --> 06:38:46.580
Three heroes dead in the blink of an eye orora feels like they can do whatever the hell they want on the map right now a

06:38:49.620 --> 06:38:56.860
Lot of vision from them this time I was commending bad boom for their vision and their ability to set things up same thing here

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Well, refreshed.

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Refresh is, gets the second rolling thunder.

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There's a gale force as well from safe.

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But Nightfall immediately in on to save.

06:39:04.860 --> 06:39:06.860
So try and bring down the swim ranger.

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Being spoiled out by GPK for a while,

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but they'll eventually be able to get him.

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And GPK as his roll finishes,

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I don't know if he wants to stay in this fight.

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He can be activated by Makoto as Kiritichi and Miro.

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Track down Kairi, kill off the Phoenix.

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Nightfall.

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On the back here, they have a hex.

06:39:22.860 --> 06:39:24.860
They have an earth spike onto Miro.

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What in the combo Phoenix? Oh, not the Phoenix the finger of death it comes out

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But there's a BKB to dodge it out in the end

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They're really disliked though

06:39:35.620 --> 06:39:40.740
Eventually, but Mikoto is the one that's dealing the damage the most on the back lines of the fight

06:39:40.740 --> 06:39:44.540
They've got the hex out onto this monkey King Mikoto trying to keep the pressure off

06:39:44.540 --> 06:39:47.300
But GPK is jumping on the other side to kill off Mira

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WS respawns re-engages the fight

06:39:49.940 --> 06:39:56.340
They managed to bring down Kidditich in the end and GPK although he's killing off these supports. The real carry here is

06:39:56.780 --> 06:40:03.520
Mikoto tries to roll up tries to protect himself, but now WS has a rena the fight's lost us that long Liz

06:40:04.580 --> 06:40:11.320
Mikoto definitely will have the damage to find these kills. They nullify Kataomi. They kill him again at the very least

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GPK with his second rolling thunder will be able to escape. How silly of me to suggest that they are winning this fight

06:40:17.700 --> 06:40:21.320
I was thinking of that boom. I'm not gonna hide from that

06:40:21.900 --> 06:40:26.600
Queen of pain like this is just a queen of pain show what was the fight recap damage now

06:40:27.240 --> 06:40:33.740
Casual 30.5k. There are games where you're carry deals 14k damage like the whole game

06:40:33.740 --> 06:40:38.040
Yeah, she's dealing that amount in a single fight time after time

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This is and it was the start kind of started even all right ish for that one because they managed to kill Phoenix

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I don't know if you notice Kaori presses refresh instantly dies like the same

06:40:51.020 --> 06:40:54.520
millisecond so he couldn't even use that second to react if he managed to double

06:40:54.520 --> 06:40:58.840
leg the fight is over immediately but they managed to take him down

06:40:58.840 --> 06:41:03.840
unfortunately how do you take down a queen of pain with 4.5K HP with

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bloodstone with all of these items with dandelion amulet as well by the

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way to block out some magic damage it's not like they even have a lot of

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Magic damage from the other side, but...

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I think something is nice.

06:41:16.480 --> 06:41:17.480
Nightfall...

06:41:17.480 --> 06:41:19.480
He had a game yesterday where he dealt like what?

06:41:19.480 --> 06:41:20.480
Was it yesterday with a game before?

06:41:20.480 --> 06:41:23.480
Were there playing places where he only dealt like 4,000 damage?

06:41:23.480 --> 06:41:26.480
Yeah, it was, I believe, even below 4k.

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Okay.

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Roshan being taken right now.

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And Mira.

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You know this Mira, this level 20 talent, they did not expect this as well in that fight.

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Because he got it just before that fight.

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The cone?

06:41:38.480 --> 06:41:39.480
Yeah, the cone's done.

06:41:39.480 --> 06:41:41.480
It really goes on him.

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So now you're dealing with an Aegis on Mindful. I mean there's no point giving Makoto the Aegis. He's not dying anytime soon.

06:41:49.480 --> 06:41:58.480
I love that the Mars went for the damage. 25 talent by the way as well. Just full on. No one is dying on his team. He's fine.

06:41:58.480 --> 06:42:06.480
This doesn't need the HP region. Why not crit them a bit harder? He does have a nullifier after all.

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Mekoto Mekoto, hex available now on the screen of pain.

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So now she has control to add to her arsenal.

06:42:16.360 --> 06:42:20.720
They have double arena and they have double leg.

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My fault just goes forward.

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There's a Wukong's rolling thunder.

06:42:24.000 --> 06:42:25.640
Okay, get out this agent.

06:42:25.640 --> 06:42:29.560
They down in extremely fast fashion but there's the supernova coming in on top of

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the WS arena.

06:42:30.560 --> 06:42:34.960
The sonic wave pushes Kiritich away from the egg but Mero able to go in with

06:42:34.960 --> 06:42:38.960
the BKB and destroy the egg. Nightfall comes back for life number two, but he's still in trouble.

06:42:38.960 --> 06:42:43.960
Shackletrot will be there. Spirit vessel is taking him low. GPK, can he find the tiny? Not just yet.

06:42:43.960 --> 06:42:49.960
He's healing up. Forced off away from Mira. The Gale Force will come from save, but he's still not dying.

06:42:49.960 --> 06:42:53.960
Shackle will be there. GPK, can he finish him off? As long as it does happen.

06:42:53.960 --> 06:42:57.960
But now there's the secondary arena. There's going to be the Earth Spike into the finger of Jeff.

06:42:57.960 --> 06:43:02.960
Killing off Mira. Or killing off save, rather. Mira's going to be dying to Mikoto.

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The two of the cores though on Aurora are gonna die here.

06:43:05.840 --> 06:43:07.840
Hero isn't that yet? He's still fine?

06:43:07.840 --> 06:43:09.040
Still alive? Oh my god.

06:43:09.040 --> 06:43:10.000
Good false promise.

06:43:10.000 --> 06:43:11.200
Shout out for false promise.

06:43:11.200 --> 06:43:14.480
The buyback from the Phoenix as well and the neck usage again.

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Honestly, a very good offense by that one, but I have to say this was a little bit too

06:43:22.720 --> 06:43:28.720
overzealous by Aurora. They felt way too strong and I can't blame them.

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like all these items, the ages, the refresher shard, the refresher orbs.

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I get it, they over-committed, but what happened?

06:43:37.280 --> 06:43:40.240
The egg was too soon. I think that's a major

06:43:40.240 --> 06:43:44.960
defeating factor for them. The egg was used in tandem with all the

06:43:44.960 --> 06:43:47.760
BKBs on Bedboom, so they could just commit on it.

06:43:47.760 --> 06:43:55.280
They killed the Tiny and still had enough BKB charges to deal with the egg.

06:43:55.280 --> 06:43:57.600
Tiny died really fast, especially on light number one.

06:43:57.600 --> 06:43:59.600
He died way too quickly, yeah.

06:44:00.600 --> 06:44:01.600
Well...

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Maybe an AC could have helped him, and actually Mars is screwing it up now.

06:44:05.600 --> 06:44:08.600
That's the next item. They did double down on Sheila's.

06:44:08.600 --> 06:44:10.600
A small little...

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In chess you would call it maybe inaccuracy, it's not really a mistake.

06:44:14.600 --> 06:44:15.600
But...

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So how do you feel about this? How much of the momentum has shifted back to that book?

06:44:21.600 --> 06:44:24.600
Because they still are a lean and a half racks down.

06:44:24.600 --> 06:44:29.000
it's still not a great position to be in. They're 9k behind. The network at this point doesn't really

06:44:29.560 --> 06:44:34.200
feel too relevant. It's more about the way that these teamfights have been going.

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When you look at the items, they have everything that they need. Monkey King is very close to

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what the butterfly as well. He has it now. They're basically maxing out on all cores on both sides.

06:44:49.400 --> 06:44:57.000
It's the teamfight capability of Aurora that looks a little bit scarier though, and it's

06:44:57.000 --> 06:45:01.320
the Queen of Pain Impact, who now has a hex as well.

06:45:01.320 --> 06:45:02.320
Smoke up from Aurora.

06:45:02.320 --> 06:45:06.360
Aurora's trying to fight over, but if he can find some picks, there are buildings to

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destroy.

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But they play very conservatively on the side of their booms, sticking inside the

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base, holding hands.

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The level 25 talent on Phoenix, by the way, he went for the two extra hits, sometimes you

06:45:19.900 --> 06:45:24.200
can even buy an agonist, not for the active, but for the extra hits to intend them with

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level 25.

06:45:26.880 --> 06:45:35.520
It might make a difference if they want to play the same way, just head first, go in,

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arena, ag.

06:45:36.520 --> 06:45:38.520
How do you mind seeing that?

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That would be kind of cool.

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It would be, but versus the BKB on Monkey, I feel like it doesn't work.

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I still think he can deal with Yag almost alone, especially now our dear observers have noticed the butterfly, like it gives a lot of base attack speed.

06:45:55.040 --> 06:46:01.040
Kiritich is hitting really fast right now, does have a lot of Deso charges to his name, also carrying a Flare's Bota.

06:46:03.040 --> 06:46:11.040
This monkey demonstrated in that fight with a couple of those boundlesses that he can still be a massive, massive threat, and of course does have the 25 talents on the command ring.

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Aurora, we'll have to save themselves with just a Tormentor. They're making sure they're not being shadowed by the enemy team.

06:46:20.040 --> 06:46:27.040
Once they've gotten the confirmation, they will go back, take the Tormy, and get a shot from Mira, who nearly died in this attempt.

06:46:27.040 --> 06:46:34.040
It's a lot of damage still by the Tormentor. It's a good shot. It used to be one of those core build-ups for Lion.

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No longer is, of course.

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Okay, okay, hit me out, right? Hit me out.

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You blink forward, right? You wait for GPK to start rolling.

06:46:43.040 --> 06:46:47.040
And then you use the monodrain so that you become Spell Immune,

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and you don't have to worry about getting hit with roll.

06:46:49.040 --> 06:46:53.040
And then once he gets past you, you blink past him, and then you stun somebody else.

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You're cooking.

06:46:57.040 --> 06:47:01.040
Unfortunately, if Alain does that, at this point in the game, he's dead.

06:47:01.040 --> 06:47:04.040
A monkey king just looks at you and you're probably already in the fountain.

06:47:04.040 --> 06:47:12.600
fountain. He'll be fine, bro. He'll be fine. He's got an essence ring, dog. He just pops

06:47:12.600 --> 06:47:17.040
the essence ring and he lives. No problem. Yeah, he does. He does have it. Actually,

06:47:17.040 --> 06:47:23.840
you see the greater healing lotus that he's carrying as well. He's been pretty diligent

06:47:23.840 --> 06:47:28.440
when it comes to carrying the flowers for his carry. Like he's been healing quite

06:47:28.440 --> 06:47:32.880
a lot in a couple of these fights. They heal the tiny save his life just by having

06:47:32.880 --> 06:47:34.880
healing lotus here and there.

06:47:36.880 --> 06:47:38.880
That's all me and the boys.

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Tiny is so big.

06:47:40.880 --> 06:47:42.880
Finally feeling freedom to come out the base and

06:47:42.880 --> 06:47:44.880
he technically just got bigger.

06:47:44.880 --> 06:47:46.880
Not directly, but indirectly. Mars does now have that AC.

06:47:46.880 --> 06:47:48.880
So more armor, more attack speed for the whole team.

06:47:48.880 --> 06:47:50.880
AC on him, satanic horn.

06:47:50.880 --> 06:47:52.880
The tiny swift link satanic.

06:47:52.880 --> 06:47:54.880
Basically six-slotted.

06:47:54.880 --> 06:47:56.880
It

06:48:00.240 --> 06:48:04.680
You know being is actually six-slotted can she replace these boots or something else?

06:48:04.680 --> 06:48:11.240
Yes, she can if she wants to there is an option for her to get another item here. She is keeping

06:48:11.840 --> 06:48:13.840
This that she's in the slots for now

06:48:14.320 --> 06:48:17.600
Yes, they break the tree of Kiddetage, but he does find the BKB

06:48:17.960 --> 06:48:24.080
GBK will be there to lend assistance as well and there's the supernova see you try to drop down with the solar guardian

06:48:24.080 --> 06:48:27.080
BKB's popped and they managed to get rid of the egg.

06:48:27.080 --> 06:48:31.080
They've also shackled WS. He cannot escape the fight either.

06:48:31.080 --> 06:48:33.080
All of a sudden, things have changed, Liz.

06:48:33.080 --> 06:48:35.080
The fight is done. They need to back out.

06:48:35.080 --> 06:48:38.080
They're trying to Oracle is actually the one JC then.

06:48:38.080 --> 06:48:40.080
Those are the long range Fortress End.

06:48:40.080 --> 06:48:43.080
We'll connect onto Mira, GPK, not willing to let this one go.

06:48:43.080 --> 06:48:45.080
Save, fine Z, Gale Force as well.

06:48:45.080 --> 06:48:47.080
The turn will be there. There's a shackle.

06:48:47.080 --> 06:48:49.080
There's the damage coming in.

06:48:49.080 --> 06:48:52.080
And the Ghost Scepter protected you for a little moment.

06:48:52.080 --> 06:48:57.580
Eventually that will end, I must say Miro played that fight to absolute perfection on the dawnbreaker.

06:48:57.580 --> 06:49:00.180
Keep in mind that they do not have the buyback on Phoenix.

06:49:00.180 --> 06:49:03.880
It was used when they were trying to push the bottom lane high ground.

06:49:03.880 --> 06:49:07.380
And this is something that Batboom probably is aware of.

06:49:07.380 --> 06:49:16.280
The buyback is still down for a minute and a half and maybe an opportunity for them to pressure the map, open up these tier 2s at least.

06:49:16.280 --> 06:49:21.280
I think they need to change the general idea on how they play teamfights.

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This whole headfirst, use the arena, use the egg and tandem isn't working.

06:49:26.280 --> 06:49:33.780
I think the egg actually needs to be at least outside of the arena, because the heroes have way too much attack speed on the other side.

06:49:33.780 --> 06:49:37.280
It doesn't matter, level 25 talent is great, but it's not good enough.

06:49:37.280 --> 06:49:43.880
looks like that would want to be able to claim their first set of barracks

06:49:43.880 --> 06:49:47.760
tier 3 being beaten up one by Kiritich they still have false promise

06:49:47.760 --> 06:49:51.320
still have rolling thunder and solar guardian just came back or cool down

06:49:51.320 --> 06:49:55.960
he's being grieved a little bit by fates you think but it's fine

06:49:55.960 --> 06:50:01.280
what's a PKB out of Makoto? how could end up being a big deal here?

06:50:01.280 --> 06:50:05.420
it's no more Phoenix for 30 and when he returns they will not be a mid lane of

06:50:05.420 --> 06:50:08.420
Barak's Q-tich just hits way too damn hard.

06:50:09.420 --> 06:50:13.420
If it's only the mid lane, I think this is something that you can live with if you're Aurora.

06:50:13.420 --> 06:50:18.420
You still have two more sides to work with.

06:50:20.420 --> 06:50:27.420
This teamfight, if Karory just next year maybe outside of the arena, I think it could have been won.

06:50:27.420 --> 06:50:31.420
Because the teamfight of Aurora is not necessarily all about the arena.

06:50:31.420 --> 06:50:34.420
It's about the egg, because he has a refresher as well.

06:50:34.420 --> 06:50:40.420
And the real power of the egg here comes into, because of the BKB piercing stun.

06:50:40.420 --> 06:50:43.920
Like you have a BKB piercing stun and you have percentage base damage.

06:50:43.920 --> 06:50:47.920
One of the main reasons why this hero is played so much currently is,

06:50:47.920 --> 06:50:53.420
he's one of those rare supports that actually hurts quite hard, even in the late game scenario.

06:50:54.920 --> 06:50:58.420
One thing we also saw in that fight is, that's how Poon from Miro,

06:50:58.420 --> 06:51:01.420
really good for ensuring heroes can't escape the Wukongs.

06:51:01.420 --> 06:51:05.420
He saw WS doing his best to run once his BKB entered but couldn't get away from him.

06:51:07.020 --> 06:51:12.220
They're still waiting for Rosh. He'll respawn by the way in a second so they're already in the pit.

06:51:14.140 --> 06:51:16.460
Lion is not close with his teammates though.

06:51:17.740 --> 06:51:21.820
He didn't scan out but that boom. I want to keep this going.

06:51:21.820 --> 06:51:24.780
As you see 100% winrate on Miro so far at the tournament.

06:51:24.780 --> 06:51:28.140
Need to be fair they've only lost two games right so there's a lot of 100% winrate.

06:51:28.140 --> 06:51:33.020
Mars, Mars jumps in, Sheva's there, actually spear back Kiritich, the Roshan is still alive,

06:51:33.020 --> 06:51:38.220
Kiritich will grab it, Ekatskutva Nova is in a recent position, can they get away from it? No,

06:51:38.220 --> 06:51:42.700
they cannot. Let's get the stun out by the nice part from Kiritich. Mira will take away the

06:51:42.700 --> 06:51:45.820
Aegis though with the finger of death as Mikoto is on the backside of the fight, looking

06:51:45.820 --> 06:51:51.260
towards Katao, he kills him, but they found a shackle onto Mikoto, the Queen of Pain is dead,

06:51:51.260 --> 06:51:55.420
in the meantime inside the Roshan, Kiritich almost lost his own life, but the false

06:51:55.420 --> 06:51:59.340
promise keeps him alive, nightfall unable to kill him off, instead it's the

06:51:59.340 --> 06:52:05.180
starbreaker that puts both him and the Mars in jeopardy. They both die. Bed-Boom

06:52:05.180 --> 06:52:10.700
team keep winning these teamfights. They keep winning them and this one was a

06:52:10.700 --> 06:52:14.860
really hard teamfight to win because Aurora played it almost to perfection.

06:52:14.860 --> 06:52:19.860
Queen of Pain might have been a little bit too relentless there on the right

06:52:19.860 --> 06:52:24.060
side of the pit because in the pit they caught the Monkey King, they used

06:52:24.060 --> 06:52:29.540
the egg are outside of the pit and he couldn't react to it. The spear was perfect after he

06:52:29.540 --> 06:52:35.780
respawns as well. I think they stole the cheese and the banner as well, but Oracle was for

06:52:35.780 --> 06:52:40.500
the first time in this game in a really long time free to use his ulti whenever he wanted

06:52:40.500 --> 06:52:42.500
to, so saves the monkey.

06:52:42.500 --> 06:52:47.220
Now they're in danger of losing another lane of barracks. GPK will just zone them

06:52:47.220 --> 06:52:53.500
with the rolling thunder, keeping them far back. Kiritich, him and Miro take

06:52:53.500 --> 06:52:56.940
down the bottom set of barracks, only one lane remaining for Aurora.

06:52:59.440 --> 06:53:01.540
They're not punches yet, they wanna force some buybacks here.

06:53:02.800 --> 06:53:05.580
They truly do, she is, is there on the line, but...

06:53:06.140 --> 06:53:08.780
Okay, there they come, buybacks are out, Nicoto jumping forward,

06:53:08.780 --> 06:53:11.140
but false promise immediately out onto the monkey king,

06:53:11.140 --> 06:53:12.180
they wanna get out of here.

06:53:12.480 --> 06:53:15.420
Say he might be left behind, but of course he has a BKB now.

06:53:16.180 --> 06:53:19.460
So he should be fine, windrun just comes back off cooldown,

06:53:20.260 --> 06:53:23.360
blink will be there soon, so he'll be fine.

06:53:23.500 --> 06:53:26.240
Even though he's carrying damage to his team, that's not nice.

06:53:26.240 --> 06:53:28.600
Get a titch, on the high ground, there it is.

06:53:28.600 --> 06:53:31.100
Get those three full Wukons.

06:53:31.100 --> 06:53:34.060
Still has BKB at the ready.

06:53:34.060 --> 06:53:36.220
So I don't really want to fight into him.

06:53:36.220 --> 06:53:37.740
He was pretending to be a tree, by the way.

06:53:37.740 --> 06:53:39.420
He's just chilling next to the two trees.

06:53:43.860 --> 06:53:46.780
Also, it's so cool to see him dodge the back in that rush on fight

06:53:46.780 --> 06:53:50.020
when he dodges the burst of the supernova with the stone soldier swap.

06:53:50.020 --> 06:53:50.520
Yep.

06:53:50.520 --> 06:53:51.220
That was quite nice.

06:53:53.500 --> 06:53:59.500
Our 14k gold lead, we're about to get to the hour mark, so let's start talking tier 5s, what do you want to see in this game?

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Maybe a couple of fallen skies here and there, they always look nice besides that, I mean whatever they get on both sides it's going to be super impactful but they have to farm those items of course first.

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We are getting an increasing amount of minute 60 plus games, by the way.

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At the beginning of the tournament everything was like 20, 30 minutes, 40 at max.

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We are getting tier 5s almost every single day now.

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And multiple series too.

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I think we've only had one series together that didn't at least have one hour long

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game.

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Look at them goon, they just fall on high ground.

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These are megas by the way, if it falls...

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Here's our contestant,

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bonafires out, frostpunners will be there.

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They do have the sun ray out from Kaori.

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Nightfall unable to do the damage you want.

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Their supernova is there, Makoto pushing back Miro into the wall.

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He ties inside the arena.

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Say he will also eventually lose his life and kill it here.

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How much space can he create with those Wukong's?

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It will be a supernova right in front of him.

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Can he bring it down in time?

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Yeah, oh no, he cannot.

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He gets stunned in the end.

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Lightfall there to ensure he gets the kill with the Avalanche and the right lids.

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GPK forced a flea, TPing out extremely quickly.

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He's gonna be fine and the two supports able to leave as well,

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but save did buy back for this, so if he dies again, could be a huge problem for Petboom.

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For Aurora right now, after this kind of a fight,

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the goal is probably to force a couple of buybacks on the side of Petboom.

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Save buyback is not enough.

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Why? Because previously they wasted the buyback on the Tiny.

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They used the buyback on the Mars as well, so they need to get some compensation for it.

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This teamfight was good. It's a very different teamfight in which

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the arena covers half of the high ground and half of the low ground.

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So they can't really get away from it, and the Phoenix is able to

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use the egg on the high ground so it cannot be hit.

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But overall, the push itself was maybe a little bit premature by Bad Boom.

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I feel that they tried to catch them off guard a little bit.

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And while everyone is farming tier 5s, they try to go for a full set of megas.

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That's all me. I lose this courier here. What's on it?

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Uh, nothing available. You try to build a refresher, so...

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You have to wait a little bit.

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At this point, Oracle is one of those heroes that truly...

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Once you get the blink and the neon disk, you can buy whatever you want to.

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Refresher is pretty good just to have the double false promise, of course.

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Equalize the racks advantage. Literally an even game bro. Nothing in it in terms of gold, the map looks very equivalent. All about execution at this point.

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These two teams recently have been the two biggest tribals in the Eastern Europe. There isn't anyone else. I mean there's spirit always, but their form has been kinda iffy.

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Not always really on point.

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on point to that point take a guess at how many games they played wins and losses

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against each other what do you think it is what the score is 28 30 or something

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Aurora has 21 wins okay boom has 20 so close basically 50 50 if Beppin

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win this they'll literally be 50 50 they have a good shot I feel like in

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this game it's really hard to see the outcome at this point tier 5 is might

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play an instrumental part as well. Stygian Desolator by the way, tier 5 on the Mars,

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Tiny has a divine regalia. How many divines do we have? Three, Tiny, Queen of Paid and GPK on the pango.

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And a Fallen Sky was picked up by Amira.

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There's a couple of other that aren't really picked up at all, right?

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Oracle, how many enchantous baubles do we have? That's the interesting part, because Oracle is

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rocking one so he's going to have a very good enchantment

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from a tier 5 item he's the only one that has it though

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and still if you could is there a tier 5 with range or something

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wait you're a phoenix player right how do you feel about this harmonizer

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this is the first time in my life I see harmonizer

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oh

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I mean it's pretty good right

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Like, 6% Spell Amp for every spell on cooldown, the 5% Spell Mana cost literally is meaningless, the Phoenix, like there is nothing you need, like you always have enough mana for your spells, because of the refresh that you get from Supernova, but the 6% Spell Amp sounds pretty damn good, you use all your spells all the time, so Sunray is going to burn quite a bit as well.

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Looks like they want to push the envelope because there are 90 seconds, 2 minutes and 2 minutes.

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Those are the bye-bye cooldowns for the Aurora course.

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Enforce them to die here. This could be huge.

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Rukon's massive damage from Kiritage.

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Immediately they lose the Lion.

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But what the hell? That's supernova.

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It's gonna pop and the laser almost killed Kiritage.

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WS, beautiful arena from him.

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Lightfall trying to get in on top of this Monkey King.

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But the false promise will keep him alive.

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Nero and Kiritage will then combine together.

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And they committed some big spells, but there's no buyback on him and he's dead for two minutes.

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So they literally can chill, wait the BKBs, wait their big ulties and still go again before

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he's up.

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This is a big win for Bed Boom.

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They're gonna go straight to what the Roshan pit has.

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Another problem that you have at this point if you're Aurora is you're playing

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versus this Wukong's command that is so massive that you can't really disengage.

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If he just uses it around your racks or eventually around your throne, you're forced to fight

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into it.

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There is nothing else that you can do because he hits too hard.

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He will be taking the objectives.

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By the way, Main Slayer is the next that he wants to sell and what's that?

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Feverish?

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15% cooldown reduction.

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I mean, it's good, but he had Keyknight.

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It's really good, but he had Keyknight as well.

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What's the cooldown now on his ulti?

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What is that?

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34?

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What's he doing?

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What's he doing?

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It's really damn good.

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Actually going for Octarene as well, instead of the Refresher, which he had queued up,

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by the way.

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Oh man.

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He just picked up by Jorjic.

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The only unfortunate thing, you know, for Oracle is he's got a lot of skulls with

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very low cooldowns.

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So the percentage...

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The city deduction is not that great.

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Okay, high ground. Here we go again.

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Kiddish, DKB with Miro.

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They go straight towards the supernova. They bring it down.

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Kauri does have buyback though.

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And Miro will just stand behind Kiritich.

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Who will wait, shilling inside his Wukong.

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Let's get jumped on by Mikoto.

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Foss promise from outside the Wukong.

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So he still remains alive.

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Nightfall trying to toss him to the far side of the fight.

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But Miro's already there.

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Taking down your back lines.

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It's a triple kill for Kiritich.

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Just going out these right clicks, Kaori died back,

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Nightfall has gone, Megas have been achieved.

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That boom team, moments away from securing game one,

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but they're not gonna force the issue.

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They have learned from their mistakes.

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They know that he probably still has buyback.

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WSF comes through, DKB active, buyback coming in

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from Nightfall, their hex is out, onto Kiritich.

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Sonic Wave will be there, it pushed Kiritich back

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and they kill him.

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He goes down, does that buyback?

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Miro joins him in the grave as Nightfall dishes

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in that damage from the fountain.

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They try to cancel out the spells and the heal of the Oracle, not able to do so, so he gets out.

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Oh, he actually doesn't. He dies in the fountain.

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That's three heroes gone.

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The false promise was used on himself, right? Like he used it on himself, but it wasn't good enough.

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There's just way too much damage from Aurora in the end that does take them down.

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Terrifying flames. Yeah, pretty low cooldown, 1.6 seconds by the way on it.

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Permaspan it at this point, save will be forced to PKBTP, but you need to find something more now if you're Aurora.

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You're just used all of your buybacks and the dieback on Phoenix might prevent you from actually getting the mega creeps on the other side.

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We'll see, they're trying to bring this creep wave in through the mine.

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Devine?

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He does have Desolator on WS, so that could help.

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They have a Devine on Tiny as well, so...

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Whoa!

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TPK, he's gonna start the roll

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Gollum Sky from Mirage will blink back

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Right back at the monkey

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They get the Abyssal Blade out onto Nightfall

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They're trying to keep controlling him up

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He'll be forced to pop a BKB himself

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Makoto don't Sonic Wave out on Security

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He prevents him from entering the fight

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So they might have time to escape

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WS might be the one that gets left behind, however

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He dies, however, this time he does have buyback available

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Yeah, probably the best target that they could have lost in this scenario

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They forced buybacks on pretty important targets, right? Oracle, okay?

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But they forced the Monkey King buyback, and also they only lose the hero that already has a buyback.

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So, strategically this was pretty well done by Aurora.

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They didn't overcommit to even out the scales with mega creeps on both sides.

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The moment the buybacks came, they backed out.

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Divine Regalia, of course, unfortunately for Tiny, is deactivated.

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Most of them are, right?

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angle has it and pop as well pop as well honestly Aurora right so you have a

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tiny that has divine rapier you have a stigian desolate of Mars you've got you

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know exodia queen of pain do you even care about megas that much you don't the

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thing is it's it's it's not about you caring about megas or not you can't

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deal with the megas you can hit them but someone needs to be in the base

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to do that. Who's PKB is that?

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What, they're just chilling here.

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Who's PKB is that actually?

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What?

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Okay, cool.

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Somebody double buy PKB?

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I mean, maybe one of the supports.

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Both of the PKB interrupted because all the cores are still carrying theirs.

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Maybe it's like enemy BKB? I don't know.

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What, stolen BKB? I mean it could be. Someone could have dropped it to take something. I wouldn't be like...

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There's a BKB on Miro, there's a BKB on Monkey King. Pango never had one, right?

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Windranger had it, and Oracle never bought one, so...

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Is it...?

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I'm not sure any confusing things have been happening in this game.

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We'll get some reign of destiny, not too bad, but it's more important to just make

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sure you keep taking objectives on the map, wait for the next Roshan, not even wait for

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the next Roshan, I think you have to wait for your buybacks to come back off cooldown.

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Without Aegis, imagine pushing high ground and Kiritage dies, the game could just

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end immediately.

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We might be here for a while. They could possibly just wait for the buybacks on the Monkey King.

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It's five minutes away and you have mega creeps, so you aren't really forced into making any plays right now.

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If you're a pet boom, you can actually wait. On the other side, it is difficult.

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We started the mega creep discussion. They can kill the mega creeps, but someone needs to do it.

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While you're doing that, you're showing yourselves. One of these heroes has to stay back.

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This point travels too, might be an option on one of them, just so that they can re-engage and reconnect with the teammates.

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And it has to be one of the cores as well, right?

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I can see WS doing it. Tiny doesn't have boots anymore, nor does the peanut pain, it kind of has to be the mouse.

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Tiny, I mean, at this point, I don't know how he's moving, he has too many items.

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That's a 9 second BKB, by the way, that's in the base.

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It's dropped. So possibly one of the supports.

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multiple level 30 heroes nightfall is 30, Makoto is 30, Kiritich is 30, GPK is 30, Mero is 30

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WS is not too far away himself

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game for the ages, hey it's about to be the longest game

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it's about to be, it probably will break the longest game records because they will wait the buybacks

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I'm pretty sure. The rapier, by the way, being queued up by the Monkey King as well.

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And we're entering the stage of the order where no one is experienced, right?

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You're just entering a part of the game that you see once in a month, like when you're practicing.

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The worst part is when you're screaming. Whenever I was screaming, playing versus teams.

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If a game goes badly, most of the teams will gg out.

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They don't want to waste too much time testing out strategies that they won't necessarily see almost ever.

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This just isn't a part of the game that you get to practice all too much.

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At this point, Dota becomes very hectic and it's all about the initiations and buyback

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status.

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Two things.

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Who gets jumped on first and whose buyback status is on point?

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The two neutral we didn't talk about were these Minotaur horns, to just help bridge

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the gap with these lower duration BKBs.

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This is just anti Phoenix tech basically.

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It's pretty good because they understand they have to waste the BKBs to deal with the Yak, like you said, anti-fenix tech.

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You have something else to work with after the first initial BKB charge has been used.

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Unfortunately for them, the refresher doesn't refresh items anymore, so they gotta deal with it a different way.

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Please click on save. There we go. Look at my way save. Deciding. You know what?

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He's deciding to end the game. That's what he's deciding. Didn't he do it once already?

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Who was it? It was him and Tofu, right? That just went for the drone. Tofu I think he did with Muerta or something and say with the Windranger.

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That's right. It's got Daedalus now. Daedalus did you in Desolator and of Lads as well.

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Roshan, Roshan's just getting tired guys. He's like, brah, let me rest. He's coming to come back into this god damn game. Sixth Rosh. Won't get to see that every day.

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75 minutes game, you don't get to see it for sure.

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For Dire of course for Petmum, if they manage to take it, which they most likely will, they

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always have the advantage.

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Let's see, Tiny is already insta-connecting, he used Swiftling.

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They don't want to let this one go.

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Spider legs not picked up by Nura, so a better positioning available for this line.

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The thing is, they don't have to do it here, right?

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They can just wait for Rush to move down bottom, because that's where they have

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the advantage with the outpost, they most likely will wait as the smoke from Mars and

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the boys of Aurora.

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They're on a back foot now.

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This is one part of the game which is hard to play when mega creeps are pushing in,

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but at the same time you need to contest Trosh.

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You have to out-push the waves so far out that it buys you enough time to actually

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fight in the pit.

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man is making his way over he has finished his daytime shifts time to go take a nap on

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the bottom side the vision is already set up by dire good words one in the river one

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on the ramp in the radiant forest this is so hard peanut paint does by the parts to

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sort of they needed it what is she backpack though she's really backpacked for kai asan

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So she get rid of the sheevahs maybe already have what what two sheathers in the game. It doesn't matter

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She just needs to use the travels right like you can

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Move the item back in

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Notifier will be the item that she backpacks for now

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They have

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At that at some point I suppose they had triple sheevahs on their side

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Whoop Mars and the phoenix Mars did sell his and go for TAC by the way

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Can we get a damage check? 76 minutes in, I wanna see what these numbers look like.

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This is change a lot though. 77k. 60,000 on pango, 70,000 on a monkey,

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77 on queen of pain. I love how the phoenix actually has done more damage than this tiny

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that has data lists on all these items. As the game goes further and further and heroes

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become bigger and bigger, Sunray hurts more. 2% max seal and 7.5% max damage on the Sunray.

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Plus you have four Sunrays in a fight, right? Because you have one and then you

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have another one in the in the egg and then you have to then you refresh and

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you do it all over again.

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Ah, tiny because Regalia was disabled, has gone back now to get some fire.

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Rolling counter, Phoenix.

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They connect on to the Phoenix, there is no Aeon disc to be popped here, so the Phoenix

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does get off the Supernova though, it's going to take a mirror, will immediately turn

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on top of it, they take it down, there is a fireback available, WS also held in position

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by the Abyssal Blade, he'll die as well within the Wukong's, double kill for

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Kiritich, they have to buy back.

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It's a forced buyback for the Phoenix, but Mars, if they want to contest Roshan, Phoenix is not enough.

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I think this is a huge opportunity once again for Pet Boom. They have buyback on Monkey King.

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They could possibly just go all in here, force the buyback on the Mars.

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Okay, he has 3k surplus though. So he can buyback, sell phases and also get travels to maybe get a bit closer, but they need a wave mid.

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He can't get travels too, on the Mars. He has queued it up.

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They found Faze. Save is gone.

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Oh no, false promise. We'll try to bail him out. They're not a fire from Makoto. It didn't come out in time!

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So Saves actually gonna be able to get back. He's safe!

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They're messing up. This is not good from Aurora. I feel like they're overextending and they're not finding the kills that they went for.

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They're buying time though. They're buying time for Mars to respawn. He didn't. He wasn't forced to use his buyback.

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Fall on smoke though.

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This could catch them off guard because there is a chance that they think

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Rosh is happening even though it didn't roar.

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It was slightly split. Oh no, they might find Kaori.

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Kiritich.

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Kaori is a massive kill. He doesn't have buyback.

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He's gonna find the Phoenix. He sees him.

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Kaori at the same time. Makoto is getting jumped upon.

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There's gonna be the solar guardian directly on the Queen of Pain and Quap is gone!

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The damage saved showing off a little bit with the Daedalus and the Desolator.

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At this point he's an additional core in the game.

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This is not a support Windranger anymore.

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27 Daedalus, Stygian Desolator, tier 5 of course, like you mentioned.

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Quok just disintegrated.

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By the way, I feel like if they kill the Phoenix it's just as much value because he has no buyback.

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At least the Quok has buyback, but she'll have to use it.

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This is now a full on push coming from Batgum to your throne, wherever you are on the Radiant.

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Because they have the buybacks, I believe the buyback status is available on almost every single hero on their side.

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Yep.

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Oof, check out Kirizic, Aegis and the Divine Rapier is now picked up.

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Okay, so he has no buyback though. He bought out.

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Is this was this super necessary? I feel like they didn't weren't really lacking damage

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But I guess use the rapier use Wukong's command on on the throne and that's it right like you don't have to

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Be too cute about it

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Kiritich Kiritich is gonna lose a game like a bitch. No gonna go out chest out 10 toes

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Alright, alright, alright, alright. You're right

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This is Kiritich. I was wrong. Who am I to question the great Kiritich himself?

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He could have had three lives by the way, all I'm saying.

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He only needs one.

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Let's see what he's gonna be able to achieve here.

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Nice, Miro.

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Just throwing out some token spells.

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Now this is gonna be the hold of the century.

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WSWATERSPEAR BACK!

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But unfortunately the DEMONEVIA FORCE PROMIS

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and the SOLAR GUARDIAN coming in

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and they're trying to zone back the supernova.

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Miro ensures that the supernova is on the high ground

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away from the monkey.

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So it goes off pretty much harmlessly.

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Everybody else stays alive.

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Miro, beautiful Starbreaker with the Obstacle onto Miro, Lyon, dead!

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Two minutes in the grave, but doesn't have buyback.

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Can they commit without false promise? Actually, they do have false promise again.

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The cooldown is 22 seconds at this point.

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God.

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So, I mean, he's got the Enchantress's Bobble, right?

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Current bonus is 90%.

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And that's what they're playing. They're playing for the long-con.

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The first time I'm seeing this item, by the way, in a competitive scene, go this late.

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Well, people only talk about infinite scaling, you know, your lines, your punches or whatever.

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This is the real scaling.

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They think he gets jumped on, there's the Abyssal Blade on top of them, they want to kill this

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tiny.

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They're gonna try and bail him out though with the Sonic Wave, pushing these heroes back,

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but the Wukong's command is too good.

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Supernova comes in the middle of them and they did kill Miro!

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Kiritich, can you beat this down by himself?

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No.

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He will actually be able to get the kill in the end.

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How the hell did that happen?

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Just died and Wukong's off, they popped.

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Yeah, he didn't kill the egg.

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He killed the Phoenix post deck.

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Did he die that fast? WS?

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He's just disappointed it.

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He promised he'll be there with the Solar Guardian.

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But the Stormbreaker from Miro!

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In the middle of the fight, make sure that WS and the Quap are both dead.

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They jump on the nightfall, they kill them all.

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GG, well played, it's cold.

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Aurora could not do it.

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They held for as long as they could.

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But that boom team win the game with the Caddytitch Monkey King.

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It's just another record-breaking game from Petbull, Mena Aurora, just a very long game

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and a very entertaining one as well.

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Mena Aurora will have to feel bad after losing the longest game of the tournament and having

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it, like it was in their hands.

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It was in their hands, but what Gaben give it, Gaben take it away.

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Shiva, tell me, how are y'all feeling?

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Because we're losing our minds in here.

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That was a fantastic game, one of our upper-record finals.

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back and forth. This is what I was hoping for and we got it delivered. Bed boom on the

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on the on the happy end of course they take the victory here for game one Aurora they are left

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searching for an answer. We'll find out what that answer is in game number two but we're gonna

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attempt to break this game down where the highlight started minute 40 Tiga. I don't know what was

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it going on. Yeah I mean it was an amazing game and I feel like actually it's a really important

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time to start with right because Aurora had built up a bit of a comeback after a really

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really slow start to the game, but BV has the game progressed under the pressure of Aurora.

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They were able to find really critical kills on Nightful, so that when Aurora was able to

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utilize Makoto, there wasn't that kind of progression after.

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So BV were kind of just, survive, survive, you know, just go toe for toe, like we lose

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two guys, you lose two guys, we lose four, you lose four, like they did a pretty good

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job at just making sure that Nightful was dying in the late game, so that Aurora

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couldn't just close out this game.

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Yeah, I mean, the way this game started, they pick up three Bounter Runes and this

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This is what sealed the deal in this 80 million,

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you're just kidding.

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It's always the same with you, there we go.

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Now, they played an extremely good game of data,

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managing to get a pick-off in the teamfights.

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There's a lot of healing on one side as well.

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You have Oracle, Dawnbreaker,

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even this spirit vessel allows them

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to reset the fight multiple times.

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I think they were struggling,

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there was a period of time where Bedboom team

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were struggling against this overwhelming teamfight

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on side of Aurora,

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but they managed to pull their stuff together

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because every single time they were getting initiated on,

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And I'm looking at the GPK mostly. He's the one who's controlling the whole fight. He died one time shiver in 80 plus minute game

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Just killed him once. I was so impressed. I mean 12, 130 on the pangolin like an exceptional performance

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Again, you have you know utilized the Oracle in the early game

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He got the six minute rune, the eight minute rune, the ten minute rune

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That allowed them to move bottom, take the tier one tower, open up the early game for BB

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Of course, it's a really long game

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But the reason why it gets there is because of how efficient BB was in the early game

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And yeah, it's so, so scary.

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Like with their lineup, we already mentioned the draft.

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Like it's a skill-based lineup, positioning, execution.

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It will really be clear in this game.

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And they, I mean, they had the lead, they lost it,

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then they go back into the game.

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They showed all styles of this draft even in this game.

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The high ground defenses that came out from both teams,

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super cool to see,

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because both teams had a very different way

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of dealing with it.

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Of course, a rapier on one side,

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a lot of patience on the other side as well.

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They were really patient.

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I'm looking at the healing numbers, especially.

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Almost 50,000 healing coming out from the three heroes total.

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30,000 coming out to Justin Kataomi in this one.

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He was the one keeping distance.

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Really loved the itemization coming out from him.

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What's the supports they did go for and discs

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and also wanted to keep the distance.

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Even the author in court at the later stages of the game

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with the enchantment.

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So his abilities on a relatively short cooldown

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allows him to get in and get some clutch saves.

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but the GPK Pango, man, it just stands out so much.

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And I'm really glad that we are seeing this first shift

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in terms of Queen of Pain priority,

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because the hero has this like Exodia build

07:19:54.680 --> 07:19:56.680
once you get to the fifth, sixth item.

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It gets pretty ridiculous the amount of damage

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that you're dishing out.

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In most of these late game or mid game fights,

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you saw Queen of Pain just popping off

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in every single one of them.

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And then I'm kind of glad that we're seeing

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that Queen of Pain can also lose the game.

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Yeah, in those like games.

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You know, it needs to keep winning to then get eventually nerfed, right?

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Yeah, exactly. So, because this is one of my favorite heroes, you know.

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Gotta say it, gotta lower the chances of hero getting actually nerfed.

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The amount of amazing shackles though, once again, this man is not to be stopped on the Twin Ranger.

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This is the type of game from Bibi that you pretty much can make a case for, I think, all five players at some point to be in MVP.

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save on the screen but if you flick over to Mero it's his ability to always make sure he's jumping

07:20:40.200 --> 07:20:44.440
in the correct time of course his itemization was perfect same thing for Katomi you know getting

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the intro to the 4v4 tier 4 rnging his way to cooldown reduction to then be an absolute menace in

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the late game like yeah it's you didn't even mention characters i i was hoping someone else

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to take that yeah because i think uh in a lot of when a lot of people would choose him to be

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the MVP as well because he had an outstanding game like he was super aggressive at the early

07:21:04.600 --> 07:21:06.600
that he was able to do. He

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was able to do a lot of

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damage. He was able to do a

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lot of damage to those two

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stages that put that pressure

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early on. And then at one

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point, it felt like maybe we

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can't really take those fights.

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He was the one getting

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focused down heavily. And I

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think he figured about. I

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think there's something to

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his atomization because

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every single time I see him

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play, it is made sure into

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this so into BKB

07:21:28.600 --> 07:21:29.600
understanding to reduce the

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spell damage against him

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and also pump out as much

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physical as possible. Yes,

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to go into the game at minute 34 and this is a fight where we are starting off with having a great

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Wombo combo from Aurora. Yeah, pretty much first time in the game we are seeing what their lineup

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can actually do, even though you see this like very good shackle shot coming out to start off the

07:21:49.120 --> 07:21:53.840
fight. The egg and the arena, the old-school combo and then Sonic Way on top of that,

07:21:53.840 --> 07:21:58.720
keeping them inside, allows Aurora to actually get the comeback fight in this game because

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part of this, they had like one smaller fight where they kill a couple of heroes, but shows the

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power of the lineup. When Tiny gets involved, when Queen of Pain is able to dish out the damage,

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blink in freely, this is a bit of a longer fight, they're still going to be able to get a couple

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of more kills out of it when Tiny decides to join again. But overall, this is what

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Aurora's draft was supposed to do throughout the game, it just took them a little bit longer,

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maybe, than they expected. Yeah, and then they have two cores that are doing pretty well,

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and as Lacoste already mentioned, especially for Queen of Pain, but also for the Tiny Tiga of the

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damage is really ramping up. Yeah, I mean in the early game it was a really, really quiet start for

07:22:37.600 --> 07:22:40.720
Aurora, right? But with the Tiny and Queen of Pain you can look at the damage that they have, right?

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4,000 to the Tiny, 5,000 to the sort of Queen of Pain, and it's just one of those ones where

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they clearly was like, guys, we're going to play for this minute mark of the game, and once we

07:22:48.640 --> 07:22:53.040
get there we can take the fight, and of course when you fast forward from 20 minutes to 45,

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they were a lot more explosive. And look how... This is a crazy difference. It's a major

07:22:57.200 --> 07:23:02.080
a glove. I think Nightfall, he kind of, even though he's the carry in this game, he sacrificed

07:23:02.080 --> 07:23:07.140
his playstyle in the hope for Makoto to shine. He was the one going in first, he was dying

07:23:07.140 --> 07:23:11.160
a couple times. Maybe if he doesn't have that type of initiation, Makoto won't get these

07:23:11.160 --> 07:23:16.320
big kills, but also this playstyle eventually hurt them, because I think Nightfall, he

07:23:16.320 --> 07:23:21.600
got a bit carried away, and I will, I'm going to call him out. I think he may have

07:23:21.600 --> 07:23:22.600
lost this game for Aurora.

07:23:22.600 --> 07:23:25.920
Yeah, because I think we're going to go look at the little moment that happened

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with this tiny here. Yeah, because it's the

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yeah, the ages. He's gone great. Yeah, he has an

07:23:30.420 --> 07:23:32.420
ages and it's just like he's just jumping in

07:23:32.420 --> 07:23:35.420
rogue into the high ground after ages. Yeah. And

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it's like the B2B is now from backpack going

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into inventory. And to me, when you look at this

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like moment, you need a bit more discipline. You

07:23:44.220 --> 07:23:45.820
need a bit more like readiness because like the

07:23:45.820 --> 07:23:48.820
tiny just going in solo really perfectly used

07:23:48.820 --> 07:23:51.120
like every single tool they have to get the

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tiny fill. Yeah, it was no combo break from

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It's GPK again, like he has his number throughout the whole game knowing that they really don't have

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BKB piercing ability that Fango's going to be afraid of so he can freely jump into the fight,

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allows him to get to roles, like the only thing that can stop you is pretty much the Sonic wave.

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Yeah, and also I think in this clip you can see that Nightfall, he's already had the feeling

07:24:12.780 --> 07:24:16.940
that we've won this game, I'm going in, I'm the carry, he dies, WS on the offlane Mars,

07:24:16.940 --> 07:24:20.780
he was going for like an AC in the late game, we never got to see a refresher

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in a team fight where you're playing against the circle of the monkey king, the oracle's position

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and flight refresher may have been a better pick. He had it like at the super late. Super late.

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I think we saw like one maybe like the second time, the second arena in a fight, but yeah, he was

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all about minus armor, buff up himself with the she was guarded. He did sell in the end,

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but yeah, I still feel like even in this game, we are showing the weaknesses of a Mars when

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when it comes down to the scaling from the off-lane

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that you see on a different side.

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You see Dawnbreaker, 5000 plus HP with the Bissellblade.

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He did have it as well on Mars,

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but the amount of control,

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the amount of sustain that you have

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is a completely different.

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And this was just game one.

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It was a very fun one.

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And I really hope that game two can live up

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to that first game,

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but we're gonna have to wait and see.

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We'll take a quick break.

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We'll be right back.

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Ergonomically engineered for you. Gamers. Hybrid workers. Officers. Backing your every move.

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I would say I get to farm more ancients as a mid player because the side laners don't

07:27:12.060 --> 07:27:14.940
have their ancients anymore. That's probably the biggest change.

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I think it gives me more opportunities to pick different heroes every game instead of

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just playing like one or two heroes like Jaktiro Varlak and overall game become more tense.

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Like it's faster.

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Oh, it's faster!

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Yeah, it's, yeah. I mean, we can see in this tournament games are ending like 30 minutes,

07:27:32.940 --> 07:27:36.980
35 minutes. It's not anymore, we are playing at 11 p.m. so yeah.

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For sure it's your heroes, but like the lane is almost the same.

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where I'm gonna play after the lane, in the master game of the middle game.

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It's there.

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My game play, what was I playing last patch?

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I feel like T.A. was really dumb last patch, and now she's more of like a normal hero.

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So I feel like that affected me because I love T.A.

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I'm a super T.A. spamer.

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And then what else affected me?

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I mean I feel like last patch kind of buffed me because

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I'm like an aggro player and I don't like the fact that they were ancients, I just have to farm farm farm

07:28:13.900 --> 07:28:18.900
I feel like Death of the Tundra was happy with the ancients and they were sad when they got removed

07:28:18.900 --> 07:28:21.900
I like the new safe lane, I feel like this patch is nice for me

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To be honest, it's just some new addition heroes like Beno and maybe Ange

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But the biggest changer is probably, I think Warlock and Jackiro has been picked less

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But I don't know, it feels the same when you see Kari still playing that two heroes always.

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So you just kind of feel like there isn't much changes in this match.

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I know, completely changed everything.

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Yeah, now the meat is not 1v1.

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Now it's like stay 5v5.

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So I know everything changed, I don't know how to end anymore.

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We had an 80-minute plus game and a first game of our best of three

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upper bracket finals and for your viewer

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That's really good for us. We're we're loving it like more of that

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But I think both teams even though bedroom was on the winning side at the end of it all both teams

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Probably have a lot of takeaways from a game like that because if a game goes that late nobody has won

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Yeah, I also don't think you want to be diving in too deep in this game like between the matches because it is kind of pointless like you might

07:29:39.800 --> 07:29:46.000
Point out that something but it's an 80-plus minute game late game. Don't it just become so chaotic

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It's like not something that you are drafting for as well

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So it's not a draft issue if the game goes for like 80 minutes both of the teams

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They got the draft that they wanted so they should focus on what's happening next and want to see how they're gonna be approaching

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some of the issues that they did have in the previous one. I don't know, I'm a big fan of this

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healing stacking because it does feel like we saw Aurora in like mid-game fights, playing the

07:30:10.960 --> 07:30:15.600
longer fights with Queen of Pain. This hero is just insane because of the chase potential we have,

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the insane amount of damage on top of that, but then again at the later portions,

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Petum team, they could have out-sustained it with Satanics, with multiple Oracle alties in

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a fight that allowed them to play the longer fights as well. It's really just a debate on

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I think the maturity of teams to decide what minute mark you want to read talk about right?

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I feel like as BB you can talk about you're giving away your leaf for roar

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It's the high ground

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I think that a simple discussion needs to be said so that you do improve for the next game

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One thing I like for BB is like every game I see from them

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They're five player is becoming more and more of a team fight minutes compared to other supports like when he's on his winter

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Why haven't his science is his oracle?

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It's like he is just a major game changer in any fight he enters

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Well, you know other sports they can fade away, but he's always just scaling into the intensity of the game

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Yeah, and at the moment with the opening bands out of the way in the first pick already there

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The hero that is not banned and that was previously banned is

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The puck the the rubik was the other one of course because now we have monkey king and pango to yours

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We did see in game one both banned Rubik and puck make it through the question is will that boom prioritized this

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Or will they go back to something else?

07:31:25.640 --> 07:31:29.080
they will go for their own position for the hoodwink.

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Yeah, it's just I think we came like the way meta developed is we figured out

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relatively early on as these two heroes are the strongest position fours right

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now and the trade off we usually didn't see the immediate trade in the first

07:31:44.680 --> 07:31:48.120
phase but that they were like other other heroes as well we just want to

07:31:48.120 --> 07:31:51.840
be having that strong landing position four in our lanes probably the call

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comes out from the offlaners as well, knowing that these are very easy heroes to lane with.

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Yeah, just simplifies the draft. I mean, I feel like all series left in this tournament will just

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be a discussion of, oh, Rubik's available, you take it. Rubik's available. And it's

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most of what happens in the first phase, because it means you get to see through the bands of

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the teams, the ideas that they're trying to present. They're not rushing into this,

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we're having to play a monkey king game or we're having to play this that is the

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value of when supports rise to top of a drafting kind of meta your calls are not

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happier. It also puts a little bit more pressure on the second phase bands

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instead of just banning out Rubik and Woodwinker they're still on the pool

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which makes for easy bands. We get to see a little bit more flair added to

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these bands tight hunter and dawn breaker I guess dawn breaker is the

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flair in this case tied under probably quite straightforward the Ursa respected as well

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Making sure that nightfall does not get his strongest hero but boom still manages to get their hands on the puck

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And I don't think they should be too surprised if Makoto still gets his hands on the Queen of Pain

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Yeah, it's one of those ones where

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Now have a team bands puck both teams will want to pick it at the same right like we would spoke about how easy

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It is to draft the supports same logic for puck in the next phase, but or they've really

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wanted Miero to be a little bit uncomfortable with his hair pull and

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with the voice for it we expect to see it into the pockets always the count on

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that job there's a part there straight away they pick up the voice period as

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response to puck yep it's a good lichen game I see it so yeah so this is

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something that Miero utilized very well so far throughout the tournament and it

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does feel like it could punish it having two supports with no escape

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mechanism whatsoever but this time around they will pick up something that

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is super tanky it is something that builds into Lotus Orb their damage is

07:33:44.580 --> 07:33:49.600
limited like waitspirit plus the two supports they have very slow amount of

07:33:49.600 --> 07:33:54.000
damage that they can pump in and this is gonna be the damage yeah you take the

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tiny even though it is the damage we kind of saw Tiny fade away in his damage

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in the previous game but also as a discussion about 50 60 70 minute

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tiny where you want as explosive of course the comeback was through Nightful's

07:34:06.920 --> 07:34:11.720
tiny his ability to you know burst heroes with the Queen of Pain. I think BB are

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going to still be pretty happy here right like Bristleback in the lane you

07:34:15.920 --> 07:34:19.840
should go up the farm you're going to itemize to deal with it you buy BKB for

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the Silver Edge. Quick question with you guys mentioning how good of a game it

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might have been for the Lycan is there a chance that Betboom picks the

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Bristle because it's still semi-flex and they still go for overall last

07:34:31.520 --> 07:34:37.820
big like in or are we just gonna keep focus both teams don't really like

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normally you would not see either team flex the four heroes that they have

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right now I'd like to take care to just another carry just to carry that scales

07:34:46.660 --> 07:34:50.740
really well especially after you just played an 80 minute game knowing that the

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game could potentially go super late you want to be having that extra bit of

07:34:54.620 --> 07:35:00.220
the scaling I mean faceless void looks good I just thinking that having the

07:35:00.220 --> 07:35:05.260
late-game carry hero, a lot of damage over time, not too much saves for the

07:35:05.260 --> 07:35:08.380
chrono. They don't have like the most explosive damage in the chrono but this

07:35:08.380 --> 07:35:12.220
hero doesn't really need that setup anymore it's just an extra buff that

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you get. So many fun options right there's still the the mortar that

07:35:20.380 --> 07:35:22.980
kind of can casually play this game if you don't initially die to the burst

07:35:22.980 --> 07:35:29.220
you'll turn around quite a lot of fights. I don't have a lot of freedom I

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over this pic. If Troll was a better hero this is one of Kiritich's classic. It could come out.

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Like we are seeing longer games, we are seeing everybody being super tanky, like in terms of

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carry to carry matchup if he wasn't such a mean hero and them having like super low amount of

07:35:46.100 --> 07:35:50.660
damage like the only hero that does have damage burst is Dino right now. So it would always

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allow you to get your ulti off but maybe we spent too much time talking about Troll because

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Probably not gonna come out. No, there's because the second phase after the the second phase bands the second fix were pretty fast

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And because it was so fast

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There's a lot of bonus time left for teams to think about what to do in their last phase of bands

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We got the Templar assassin removed from the pool here. Does this tell us anything about what type of

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Offlane or WS might want to go for here or is it too random? This is very much nightful saying ban these two carries

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I want to be the carry. Okay, like the tiny to survive this game

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Yeah, I've seen it is better much up and take and I'll pay you yeah

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I could see maybe something like a centaur it's a lotus or buyer against global silence a lot of things that you can dispel and it gives nightfall

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Another life once he picks up the agonist steps or so it might be his call as well saying it

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I want to have something that's gonna give me a second life as we've seen in the previous games where he didn't have that he had

07:36:47.780 --> 07:36:51.740
pretty much sunrayed behind him but on the other side there was a lot of things

07:36:51.740 --> 07:36:56.180
that could help them out with the Oracle ulti with other kinds of heals so it

07:36:56.180 --> 07:36:59.700
felt much easier for Bed Boom team to play the game especially to carry to carry

07:36:59.700 --> 07:37:04.700
matchup. It also in regards to WS if he doesn't pick the Centaur the only other

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hero he's played in the tournament so far is the Timbersaw and then it's like

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you are going to new heroes right? Yeah. And when you can kind of gone this

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far down the tournament you are expecting to go back for the kind of

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It will be the Mars. Speaking of comforts.

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I think you get an okay game. It's not like anything crazy.

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It turns the Berserk back around. It's very good against both of the supports once you get the initial jump.

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And you have the two jumpers. So you have a tiny that goes for like Silver Edge.

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So he's going to be in the fight, but he goes for a blink dagger as well later down the line.

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Void Spirit. So if you're the one getting the initial jump, if you're like cashing two supports,

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not giving global silence maybe a chance to get off in a fight it could be good

07:37:48.920 --> 07:37:53.100
but I'm not sold on the hero because I send this hero and I don't feel good

07:37:53.100 --> 07:37:57.760
about him. I thought it was 0-3. Sure, it's 0-3 but also I wouldn't care if it should not pick a carry.

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It's like I am going to be the carry of the game. You can pick Medusa, you don't care about the damage,

07:38:01.660 --> 07:38:05.380
you can pick a tower blade and eventually you'll stand your ground and brush off everything.

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The problem is these big heroes, even the Muerta, they are all ranged heroes that Mars can't outplay

07:38:10.920 --> 07:38:15.360
with the wall. Exactly. In early phase of the game.

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You can go back to Facesword. It's very good against the arena.

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It does allow you to jump in and out of the fights as well.

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Yeah. He's smart. He's not smart to me.

07:38:24.560 --> 07:38:26.840
I'm going to be the carry.

07:38:26.840 --> 07:38:29.280
That is quite a big spurt, I will say.

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He's having a good time discussing what damage he can do to Roren.

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I hope it reflects in the pick then.

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I hope it reflects in the pick better.

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It is the Facesword that we talked about.

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I thought Kiritish was going to be like slightly crazier.

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It makes a lot of sense to pick it, especially after seeing Mars, if it was a different off-laner,

07:38:49.000 --> 07:38:54.000
like the hero was still on the table. Now I do feel like they have the damage.

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Again, damage is a bit slower on Aurora. I think we were talking in the green room

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and Tee had a good point about Aurora's gaming draft in game number one,

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where like five minutes in it feels good, between five and ten, their damage is like,

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Eh, you know, it's not like really doing much, Warlock is not the same type of a hero anymore, you don't have that grimoire, you can't be level 6, 6, 7 minutes into the game, drop the golem, kill the tower, get a kill, and then snowball from there, totally different hero.

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I feel like BV is going to have just freedom in the lanes to draft, right, to draft, to farm, my apologies.

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The Bristle will farm into the Tiny, the Void will farm into the Mars, and then we get the Puck vs Void suit matchup,

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which, you know, at the start of the tournament, I'd say Void Spirit was always having safe advantage,

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but as the tournament has progressed, I feel like the Puck players are finding ways to not get out CS,

07:39:42.160 --> 07:39:44.280
support rotations are coming into play.

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I am slightly afraid for Aurora's damage in this game.

07:39:47.240 --> 07:39:49.680
Like Nightfall needs to play a very clean game.

07:39:49.680 --> 07:39:53.840
I can't see nightfall, you know, trade his life for his team to get kills.

07:39:53.840 --> 07:39:58.280
But he needs to be like the true carry in this game, always having like an item advantage,

07:39:58.480 --> 07:40:00.440
constantly hunting them up and getting kills.

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I feel like it's just easier for BB to get a line.

07:40:04.480 --> 07:40:05.120
So much easier.

07:40:05.120 --> 07:40:08.760
You have like get out of the jail free card with Katalmi silencer,

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who if he keeps the distance, he can be the one resetting the fight.

07:40:12.680 --> 07:40:15.400
And again, they need to commit pretty heavily on Aurora.

07:40:15.400 --> 07:40:17.680
These are very long cooldowns we're talking about.

07:40:17.680 --> 07:40:22.760
Golem, Mars going in, they need these abilities to be able to win the fight

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and if they don't, if the global silence hits or if they managed to get a kill

07:40:25.900 --> 07:40:28.940
it feels like the fight is gonna be much more difficult for them to take.

07:40:28.940 --> 07:40:32.620
But they had a fairly similar style in game one, right?

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Because where they had to have the one more combo and then, you know, basically win the fight

07:40:37.200 --> 07:40:38.540
and it almost worked.

07:40:38.540 --> 07:40:40.620
It almost worked and it was difficult in the other game, right?

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GPK got six minute rune, eight minute rune, ten minute rune, Oracle was kind of, you know,

07:40:44.000 --> 07:40:46.220
cheating with it at night. This time they don't have it.

07:40:46.220 --> 07:40:55.620
So if Makoto can get some of those early runes, make a statement in the game, maybe he can connect the dots, but I need Makoto to be louder in the early game, not just like this clutch mid-game Quinnipane.

07:40:55.620 --> 07:40:57.820
I need to see the voice for it, like, lead his team.

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Is there a clear favorite for, no, not for minute 70?

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Oh, minute 70.

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Oh, I go with face-to-sword every time.

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Every time.

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He's the ultimate carry.

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Well, we're going to find out if this game reaches minute 70, or if a team will have found a GG before then.

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And let's head over to Sneril, is it for game 2?

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What are you talking about, G-Words?

07:41:19.520 --> 07:41:22.120
Us on the mic, of course this is going to go 70 games.

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I have absolutely 100% confidence that this is going to be a long one.

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The question is though, Liz, if the game goes ultra-late, right?

07:41:30.320 --> 07:41:33.520
How much of a lead do Aurora need to be in a comfortable position

07:41:33.520 --> 07:41:35.120
against the late game and faceless void?

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They need quite a significant lead for sure.

07:41:37.320 --> 07:41:40.120
They have some things versus the faceless void, of course,

07:41:40.120 --> 07:41:44.620
but eventually this hero feels like the ultimate carry in the late game.

07:41:44.620 --> 07:41:49.620
Like 50 minutes plus this Faceless Void is almost always un-contested.

07:41:49.620 --> 07:41:55.620
And usually most teams do go for these longer scenarios with the Faceless Void.

07:41:55.620 --> 07:41:59.620
I've already clicked on him, he already has a Battle Fury queued up.

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Let's go!

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So that usually means that it will be going late.

07:42:03.620 --> 07:42:10.820
Like, Battle Fury build on Faceswade is sometimes bought in tandem with an Agoninceptor as well.

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It's a little bit of a newer build, but it does work. We'll see what he goes for.

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This game is gonna start off.

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Standard rune traded seems. No real big surprises.

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Oh no, actually they're gonna get the 3-1. He failed on the puck to get the pickup, so...

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Rora will start with a slight advantage for themselves.

07:42:29.220 --> 07:42:37.420
A pretty good start for them, like one bounty rune extra, it is nice, you know, when you're

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playing offline, getting a bracer faster, getting the tangos a little bit earlier as well, it

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does help out.

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So T was mentioning this matchup, the voice grid versus Puck, what do you think Cheney,

07:42:52.420 --> 07:42:55.420
what's been the difference in the approach of the Puck players that's allowed them

07:42:55.420 --> 07:42:57.860
to play a lot better in this mid lane matchup?

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I think a lot of things changed and I wouldn't say it was necessarily only about the mid laner.

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I think it's about the way that voidspirits were playing and about the supports that were being paired with the mid laners.

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Like this game, the draft in this game was actually very fun to watch because there were so many little things

07:43:16.420 --> 07:43:20.340
when it comes to the mid laner that activated the support picks as well.

07:43:20.340 --> 07:43:24.260
Like on one side, a puck is picked but you have a rubik into the puck, right?

07:43:24.260 --> 07:43:28.160
and it's considered like a pretty strong hero into the buck because you have

07:43:28.160 --> 07:43:32.320
insta-lift, insta-disable and you can steal anything from puck, it's good and

07:43:32.320 --> 07:43:35.760
it's good versus the puck but on the other side what do they get in response?

07:43:35.760 --> 07:43:39.920
They get this guy, they get a silencer who is also good versus the Void Spirit

07:43:39.920 --> 07:43:43.080
but he's also good into the Rubik because it prevents the Rubik from

07:43:43.080 --> 07:43:46.580
spamming his balls in the lane, it prevents the Rubik from spamming his

07:43:46.580 --> 07:43:51.260
balls in general and there is nothing great to steal from him.

07:43:51.260 --> 07:43:55.260
Like this mid lane is about four heroes, not only the two on mid.

07:43:57.260 --> 07:44:01.260
So far it's relatively even in this matchup, not too much going down here.

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Aurora, of course we're going to be trying to get into that Spirit vessel for this hero.

07:44:09.260 --> 07:44:13.260
That's one thing that I'm wondering, will he complete the vessel?

07:44:13.260 --> 07:44:15.260
I mean, every team has a vessel.

07:44:15.260 --> 07:44:17.260
I hope so, I hope that he completes it.

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I feel like Void spirits for me currently, when they, oh bot lane Katomi, are so close.

07:44:23.260 --> 07:44:24.260
Mine.

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But I like the vessel boat, all I'm saying.

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I like when they complete it, when they don't go earn into an instant agonist scepter or something.

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Down bottom we do see the faceless Void, as you said farming in to get his battle fury.

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Should be a lane where he, there's no way to stop, like Rubik Maus is not going to stop the faceless Void from farming, right?

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Well, on paper they shouldn't, but they do have a couple of nice spells, right?

07:44:49.220 --> 07:44:52.260
Like you can spam them with Kiddbolt once you get level 2 on it.

07:44:52.260 --> 07:44:56.260
You have Lyft into Spear or Spear into Lyft afterwards.

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There's some kill potential, like this is a volatile lane.

07:44:59.260 --> 07:45:05.260
And one hero that I truly didn't expect to see all too much in Dota after the patch was Silencer.

07:45:05.260 --> 07:45:11.260
But a couple of position 5s are really adamant at playing this guy.

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He's a strong, decent laner with glaives.

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Global is good, of course, as well, Kiritich.

07:45:19.420 --> 07:45:21.860
A little bit of a skirmish here around this Lotus Pool.

07:45:21.860 --> 07:45:24.820
Kiritich away, but he just timewalks right back in.

07:45:24.820 --> 07:45:29.380
The left will be there, but WS is going to have a beautiful contribution.

07:45:29.380 --> 07:45:31.900
Kattaomi though, is going to be the one that draws the first blood,

07:45:31.900 --> 07:45:34.100
and probably going to get himself a double kill here.

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Double kill. He had 14 extra int, by the way, from the glaives,

07:45:38.660 --> 07:45:42.100
So he was hitting really hard as well on the silencer.

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They failed twice.

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Like the first time they didn't manage to spear the faceless way to the tree,

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which would have given them a free Lotus, Murrow top.

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And then they didn't lift him out of the pool as well.

07:45:55.940 --> 07:45:59.140
It was bad. Murrow almost died on the top lane.

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The fatal bombs on the wave will end and the Bristol back will live.

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Doesn't have a self to play with as well, so not too bad.

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What happened in the top lane?

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I will see what kind of a build Mero goes for. I feel like there's two options that to me look pretty good.

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Lotus feels alright and BKB, like Lotus or early BKB.

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If you can go for one or the other and I feel like both will have a lot of impact.

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Doesn't feel like a super easy bristle game though.

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They have Mars with the spear to turn him around and they also have Void Spirit.

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So you have two ways of dealing with the back of the bristle.

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You also have Rubik in the tank, there's just lots of displacement for this Bristleback.

07:46:40.020 --> 07:46:42.020
We'll end up annoying him throughout the game.

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Kiritich.

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Kiritich is chilling.

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What do you want to see from Kata over here? Is this a glimmer cape game?

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Well, he might die first, so we have time to consider his adenization.

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Throw him towards the corner, blood grenade will be there as well, but Mira also falling very low.

07:46:58.540 --> 07:47:00.660
Kiritich might be able to kill him off.

07:47:00.860 --> 07:47:05.540
One more right-click is all he needs, but the body blocks of WS prevent him from closing the gap.

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Still, Katowami gets the kill.

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Yeah, the Blood Grenade all bashes. They're connecting.

07:47:11.580 --> 07:47:15.580
To be a good faceless white player, of course, you have to bash well.

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Like, it's one of the prerequisites. You have to be very good with your time lock spell.

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It's a juicy wave here for Kiritich.

07:47:27.580 --> 07:47:29.580
It will come underneath the tower.

07:47:31.580 --> 07:47:32.580
GPK.

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Top lane as well. Warlock. Dropping really low.

07:47:36.580 --> 07:47:40.580
What are you going to die here? Miro turns his back and gets off the final cool spray.

07:47:40.580 --> 07:47:45.580
I'm sure Miro will live through this. That was actually really close.

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They have to lift away, yeah.

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Salliser is stopped by the way there. Thinking about getting an extra kill, but Bristleback is way too low for this play, right?

07:47:53.580 --> 07:47:54.580
Yeah, for sure.

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And the scan.

07:47:57.580 --> 07:48:00.580
You had a sentry that you might have wanted to use, but...

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But they'd lay just gets back to safety as mid and the Koro got six before fuck like he used the first astro step on him

07:48:08.060 --> 07:48:10.060
They're trying but

07:48:11.100 --> 07:48:15.180
Will GPK be able to get on top of this ruin here Makoto get silenced up

07:48:15.180 --> 07:48:19.860
Oh nice little eighth of remnant they'll still be able to get the acorn shot out with the acre shot was there

07:48:19.860 --> 07:48:22.560
But the stem from the lift prevented the bush back

07:48:23.540 --> 07:48:25.540
So they couldn't really catch

07:48:26.300 --> 07:48:29.740
Nice little pay there from you know still to Katomi denied the rune

07:48:30.580 --> 07:48:37.140
Of course, it's minus six. I was just about to... I was just waiting to see like how many heroes will converge on the mid lane.

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Almost all the supports, only Warlock, was left remaining on the top lane.

07:48:44.980 --> 07:48:47.700
Like, that comes out when you're building these drums.

07:48:47.700 --> 07:48:56.180
I mean, you mentioned that they want to be able to scale with Curious Edge, but I do think that they will need some, like, sort of mid-game items so that they can actually fight against Aurora.

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The drums are fine. It's silencer. You can buy anything.

07:49:00.580 --> 07:49:05.140
TPK makes his first rotation to the bottom lane, dreamquill thrown out onto WS.

07:49:05.540 --> 07:49:08.060
He's a couple of more right clicks to find this kill.

07:49:08.060 --> 07:49:12.420
He'll eventually die to the illusory ult. TPK did decide to draw to it though.

07:49:12.900 --> 07:49:14.900
Immediately into the aether end of Makoto.

07:49:15.740 --> 07:49:19.060
Punishes him with the astral step and gets tipped for his efforts.

07:49:19.060 --> 07:49:20.740
I mean, I

07:49:20.740 --> 07:49:26.340
understand that tip because it wasn't truly necessary for him. This is it was a pretty free kill.

07:49:26.340 --> 07:49:32.860
It should have been a free kill, not a free trade for Aurora, a trade that they won.

07:49:32.860 --> 07:49:37.180
Like you traded the kill on the Mars for the Puck, who TP'd bottom as well to make that

07:49:37.180 --> 07:49:38.180
happen.

07:49:38.180 --> 07:49:39.980
Very nice counterplay.

07:49:39.980 --> 07:49:45.940
I don't know, buy Makoto some boots, so I can start going towards the face boots.

07:49:45.940 --> 07:49:50.260
Already has enough shadows and two charges.

07:49:50.260 --> 07:49:53.700
At the same time save, make sure that the Crown of Wisdom is not stolen away.

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Will be a spear back onto kata only they didn't leave with kaiori. They kept a wallock around

07:49:58.540 --> 07:50:01.980
They have the three heroes around easy kill on the silencer

07:50:03.300 --> 07:50:06.060
When it comes to control Aurora have an

07:50:06.820 --> 07:50:11.300
Insane amount of it right like every single hero more or less brings something to that department

07:50:11.300 --> 07:50:16.300
So they'll be able to catch heroes and just sitting next to a tower as a silencer trying to delay the push

07:50:16.300 --> 07:50:18.300
It's not going to work

07:50:19.060 --> 07:50:21.380
See a lot of those stacks being made in the jungle by save

07:50:21.380 --> 07:50:28.420
just save things. It's gonna soften up on these creep waves as bottom Kiritich

07:50:28.420 --> 07:50:32.180
getting the sub up for himself. We'll see if they decide after clearing out that

07:50:32.180 --> 07:50:36.700
triangle to bring save down bottom to try and make a play. It does almost have

07:50:36.700 --> 07:50:40.180
the level six actually so we have shop shooter available. Massive increase in

07:50:40.180 --> 07:50:44.740
damage. Massive increase in damage but at the same time kind of sad right

07:50:44.740 --> 07:50:50.420
because their damage is a bit lacking right now. You have face this word

07:50:50.420 --> 07:50:56.220
with Chronosphere, but it's gonna take a while before he's online.

07:50:56.220 --> 07:51:01.540
And the sports silencer and hoodwink, hoodwink brings a lot, but silencer does not.

07:51:01.540 --> 07:51:04.980
These mid-game fights might be a bit difficult for Radiant.

07:51:04.980 --> 07:51:10.980
Doras, they would TP out with Mira, go to the top lane, they see Mira here at nightfall,

07:51:10.980 --> 07:51:14.980
get some with the Avalanche, they bring him back with the Aether Remnant, and Mira from

07:51:14.980 --> 07:51:18.420
the TP on the tier 2 able to get the kill, but they're gonna try and turn this into

07:51:18.420 --> 07:51:22.540
a death on Kaori, but they use the first sharp shooter of the game, just to find

07:51:22.540 --> 07:51:23.980
the rotation of the hoodwink.

07:51:23.980 --> 07:51:29.220
Fuck, it's still a round and a bout, but it probably won't connect completely,

07:51:29.220 --> 07:51:33.540
waiting for perhaps the minute 10 rune.

07:51:33.540 --> 07:51:37.640
I don't think that they can play too much around the faceless fight, it just doesn't contribute a lot.

07:51:37.640 --> 07:51:44.440
Chronosphere at this point, it's a spell, but not particularly useful one offensively.

07:51:45.940 --> 07:51:49.340
I think these three heroes need to play around the bristle more than anything else.

07:51:49.840 --> 07:51:55.840
I'll try to go onto Mira here, GPK does yet again leap onto the high ground, Mira's being healed up to a bike hyory.

07:51:56.940 --> 07:51:59.340
Also had access to a pretty decent stick, so...

07:51:59.340 --> 07:52:01.740
These are okay, it's just a dreamquail that gets wasted.

07:52:01.740 --> 07:52:04.740
They even bring WS around just to make sure they can secure the rune.

07:52:06.040 --> 07:52:07.740
Yo, let's see 10 seconds.

07:52:07.740 --> 07:52:11.940
They have full control of the bot rune, but the top one should be free for Puck.

07:52:13.640 --> 07:52:16.740
Pucking Curson lost word, just throw that onto Makoto.

07:52:16.740 --> 07:52:19.940
We're getting in the rune. WS will actually throw out the arena.

07:52:19.940 --> 07:52:24.140
Gatches both of those supports of Bedboom within it, neither of whom are able to escape.

07:52:24.140 --> 07:52:26.040
Beautiful spell casting.

07:52:26.040 --> 07:52:28.540
Aurora, get the two kills immediately.

07:52:28.540 --> 07:52:32.540
Get the level 6 on Kaori, drop the golem down and start pushing the tier 1 tower.

07:52:32.540 --> 07:52:40.540
I'd like to see the stats of Kaori and all other warlocks when it comes to the downtime of golem.

07:52:40.540 --> 07:52:45.540
Like the moment he got it, bam, on the tower instantly. And he always does it.

07:52:45.540 --> 07:52:50.540
Like he gets the ult, he tosses it on the tower, secures the tier 1 and then starts farming with the golem.

07:52:50.540 --> 07:52:55.540
I'm looking able to finish the tier 1 though as they return from their deaths.

07:52:55.540 --> 07:53:00.660
me threw a blunt grenade on Makoto already. GPK is here, but doesn't have Dreamquail just yet.

07:53:02.100 --> 07:53:04.820
Yeah, they did force the Bristol back, right, from the top lane down to mid.

07:53:05.940 --> 07:53:07.380
Still, the tower is gone.

07:53:11.380 --> 07:53:16.820
So talk to me about this combination of the Mars plus the Warlock relative to the Mars plus the Phoenix.

07:53:17.780 --> 07:53:24.340
It's alright. I don't think it's as impactful like the Mars plus the Warlock as Mars Phoenix is.

07:53:24.340 --> 07:53:30.100
Like Mars Phoenix is one of those, I think it's possibly the strongest combo that you can have.

07:53:30.100 --> 07:53:35.860
With the Mars, at some point it was Dark Willow as well, but Mars Warlock honestly is still pretty solid.

07:53:35.860 --> 07:53:42.260
Like you have Fatal Bones to work with, you have Chaotic Offering in Dierina and eventually even Upheaval.

07:53:42.260 --> 07:53:48.740
It's very strong, it's very good. The difference of course is Warlock is a bit more exposed.

07:53:48.740 --> 07:53:55.460
If he gets going on, usually there is no real counter play for the Warlock player himself.

07:53:58.340 --> 07:54:02.340
CT decides to buy some Blink, Glimmer, A on Durs, I don't know.

07:54:02.980 --> 07:54:04.420
A refresher, Glimmer.

07:54:05.460 --> 07:54:10.420
Warlock is on both sides, the position 5s are very free with the itemization, they blame.

07:54:10.420 --> 07:54:11.380
First chrono of the game.

07:54:12.420 --> 07:54:14.740
Oh, that's not good, that's not good, it's just Kat's army.

07:54:14.740 --> 07:54:17.540
Just getting a free kill with the help of GPK and them.

07:54:17.540 --> 07:54:25.540
It didn't even have to commit that much really, it was a sharpshooter, a dream quail, the cooldowns on these bottles not very long.

07:54:25.540 --> 07:54:37.540
No global committed basically is what I'm hearing here right, that's the big one, it's like 2 minutes I believe, exactly 2 minutes cooldown on the global silence.

07:54:37.540 --> 07:54:43.540
They didn't bring the supports down bottom though, maybe thinking about using the global once the sharpshooter came back online.

07:54:43.540 --> 07:54:49.180
Unfortunately for them some very nice wards in their jungle make sure that WS knows that this approach is coming

07:54:50.180 --> 07:54:54.180
Rubik you rock might be in trouble. There's a chronosphere. It lands onto two

07:54:54.620 --> 07:54:59.380
Haven't used global just yet pushback goes out onto the Mars shop shooter will connect onto him as well

07:55:00.100 --> 07:55:02.540
Not enough follow-up damage void is coming

07:55:03.100 --> 07:55:08.100
The void spirit that is there's gonna be the arena thrown out global silent will be there though

07:55:08.100 --> 07:55:10.740
So the spells from a koto will not be emerging just yet

07:55:10.740 --> 07:55:14.740
The hero of Oz will miss, but Nightfall comes out of nowhere, shows up with the Avalanche,

07:55:14.740 --> 07:55:17.740
stalls our Q-titch and they drop the golem on his head.

07:55:17.740 --> 07:55:22.740
Kaori with another kill for himself, saved, not gonna be allowed to escape here.

07:55:22.740 --> 07:55:24.740
As Mikoto cheats him up as well.

07:55:24.740 --> 07:55:27.740
This is once again Kaori 101.

07:55:27.740 --> 07:55:33.740
The golem, the moment it was off cooldown, was used literally the same second.

07:55:33.740 --> 07:55:35.740
He's finding a lot of use out of it.

07:55:35.740 --> 07:55:39.740
The Global was fine, but I think they pushed their luck a little bit too much.

07:55:39.740 --> 07:55:46.740
under a tier 1 tower of Aurora, not really the best play after Chronos here has been used already.

07:55:48.740 --> 07:55:53.740
They wanted it, they wanted a straight, they wanted 4 Saudi Arena, it's just a faceless void.

07:55:53.740 --> 07:55:56.740
Like I said also got caught out a little bit by the Tiny rotation too.

07:55:57.740 --> 07:56:05.740
Nightfall a bit different than in the last game, I feel like in the last game on the Tiny he was very silent for the first 15 minutes, he never moved.

07:56:06.740 --> 07:56:08.740
Already one pretty solid rotation by him.

07:56:09.740 --> 07:56:13.900
I like to see a Royal China play as fast as humanly possible given like you said

07:56:13.900 --> 07:56:17.180
I'm gonna take some time for the damage to start ramping up from Bed Boom

07:56:17.180 --> 07:56:22.780
so in this moment play aggressively and WS picks up a Yule Scepter doesn't want to

07:56:22.780 --> 07:56:27.180
play with the blink knowing the danger of playing into global silence

07:56:27.620 --> 07:56:32.900
Now the Yule Scepter actually will be bought on the Void Spirit as well, top lane Void Spirit

07:56:32.900 --> 07:56:36.900
Gonna go towards Miro, Aether Remnants not gonna be used yet because the

07:56:36.900 --> 07:56:44.900
The response is, quickly streaming in from Bedruteen, they get out the Dream Quail, Makoto though does have a Haystrune, and we might be able to catch up to this widespread.

07:56:44.900 --> 07:56:51.900
Because of the Haystrune, this is fine, but in any other scenario, this is the best case for Bedboom.

07:56:51.900 --> 07:56:56.900
Bristleback gets going on, he baits them a little without a position, and then you strike back.

07:56:56.900 --> 07:57:00.900
He's got consecrated wraps, he's insanely tanky, they're still going on him.

07:57:00.900 --> 07:57:05.420
indeed. There's going to be a bush-rack to try and save him, Makoto. Looking towards save,

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there's Mira. Only able to steal the Scurry. At the same time though, they are smoked up

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from Aurora. They're coming in with Kaori and WS. They don't have the chaotic offering,

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but they do have Arena. It's going to come out, catching both supports. The Global

07:57:16.080 --> 07:57:19.700
Silence will be there, but they've got the fatal bonds first. So this damage output

07:57:19.700 --> 07:57:23.300
will ensure both supports end up dying. Life for O'Fan and Avalanche, throwing

07:57:23.300 --> 07:57:27.140
Kiritich back towards his team. They get a kill on Mira at the very least, but

07:57:27.140 --> 07:57:31.620
Makoto jumps in huge resonant pulse with the 8th arrendment on security edge. They kill the void

07:57:32.540 --> 07:57:34.100
He is gone

07:57:34.100 --> 07:57:40.580
But they did lose nightfall in the trade for this one. Can they escape Miro throwing in a ton of damage here

07:57:41.420 --> 07:57:45.220
Almost bringing down WS GPK with the right clicks looking for them

07:57:45.220 --> 07:57:49.180
But Makoto resonant pulse back online goes back onto GPK kills him off

07:57:49.220 --> 07:57:52.540
He does at the very least managed to break down WS

07:57:52.540 --> 07:57:59.540
But at the end of the day, Makoto cleans up Miro, makes it a team wipe, and sets Aurora up for massive success.

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Right, this was a full team fight in the end, even though Hoodwink and Silencer have respawned.

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It was a pretty long fight, this early on in the game. The fatal ones were perfect.

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Not only did they clip on the heroes, they clipped on the ancient stack nearby.

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So the ancients were also taking damage and spreading it as well.

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Well, bristleback, you could see how bonky was able to stick around,

07:58:19.700 --> 07:58:23.220
but Shadow Ward's trumping all the damage from Radiant.

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Actually maxed out Shadow Ward, just healing a little bit too much.

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This early on for Aurora, it's a pretty big heal.

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This is great.

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They also keep Kiritage away from the fight for so long.

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Mm-hmm.

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He had no Chrono.

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Like, you're joining this fight as a faceless Void.

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I feel like your biggest contribution to the fight is actually time dilation.

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Everything else more or less is not super relevant and they have, like every single hero we mentioned, has some sort of a disable.

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So it's not easy for Facesway to play here.

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This one is Makoto really, really ramping up the damage of this White Spirit.

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He did actually skip the Spirit Festival.

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Yep.

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Went to the Aghanim Shard now.

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I guess one of the main reasons why, he can still buy the Vessel by the way eventually,

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but he does need a Jules.

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He is playing into Global Silence, so you always need a Jules, a BKB or a Lotus.

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So far they already have two ways of disfalling, right?

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Like one Jules on the Mars and one on the Void Spirit as well.

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We're coming forward, smoked up.

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We have the Global Silence ready again.

07:59:35.220 --> 07:59:37.220
GBK has the Dream Quail.

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We might be the only one that they find here as they got the Astral Step out of the Void Spirit.

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Don't want him to chase though, nice little Aether remnant to just pull a puck away from the voids grid

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So he gets out, but they do manage to get a quick kill on Kylo-Ree

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He wanted more, like you could see the puck was chasing some stragglers behind, but not going to happen this time around

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Bristol just leading the charge, this is the playstyle that you need to have as a Bristol back

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Just charging forward, consecrated wraps, he just picked up the agonim shot, going straight

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for the DKB.

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He did do a lot of damage in that last fight, so the longer he just keeps surviving, could

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be game changing later on.

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It's already playing, I think according to the strategy for Bethelm, because you need

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someone that can single handedly more or less pressure the wraps, that opens up

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space for Faceless Wade to find his farm. We've seen a couple of games where Faceless

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Wade just literally never comes online. And that has always been the problem with this

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hero. Bi-packs, Aegis, and just being crushed in the early stages.

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Oh, beautiful Avalanche coming in from Nightfall. Unfortunately, they didn't have the follow-up

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damage. WS wasn't there in time in the arena, but he finally gets it up. Gonna be the

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two support to end up losing their lives. And Mira does steal the RK and curse on

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the way out. That's not so bad.

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Okay, I want to see Houdwing can silencer as far away from one another as possible top lane

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you know

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We'll have the ability to take the tier one tower the question is will you have the ability to escape?

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On top of him with these Aurora heroes upheaval is there as well

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Making sure he cannot run away Kronos fear not gonna come out the use sector was good from the Kodo

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But eventually the Kono will drop they have the damage. Yes, they do with GPK's help dreamclaw dropped onto two

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but they get what they came for the Void Spirit kill and looks like they'll be able to get out safely

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Very good play by Kiritich as long as he doesn't fall here

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Kiritich, he doesn't know that Nightfall is here

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There's gonna be the Avalanche, the toss is gonna be up as well Kiritich jumping forward negating all of that damage

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But Mira stole the Timewalks, he does the same thing to Kiritich

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Having the Timewalk on Rubik feels so damn good

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like this is also one of those things when you get the shard or the agonies

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on rubik like everything pumps up your time walk even more it feels really nice

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to be able to jump in, fade bolt everyone, stun everyone and then get out but

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lift the target or not. Good play by Kiritich in general I think he actually

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did see the tiny he had a sentry and a ward so he was just waiting for that

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initial verse to happen so he can negate it with the time walk and with

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time dilation

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usually

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Whenever you have chrono

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You should be using it. This early on even if you get one kill. It's worth it

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yours add on to cut on me

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WS also has a blink bag in now as well. So easy setup on the silencer

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We'll open up space for night for the key pushing you took the tier one tower top

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See if they can get more here, but I think you just want to finish a silver edge at this point

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He can finish the Silver Edge, but he can also play the map.

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He can continue hunting the supports, Distiller.

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The supports are just not having fun on that goal.

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Combined, they have died 11 times already.

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20 minutes in, it's not looking great. They're just finding them so easily.

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A couple of 4 staffs maybe could come in handy, maybe a Glimmer Cape as well.

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Kari will steal the Shrine of Wisdom as well, on the other side Mira gets the other one.

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It's not the earlier one, so not as important, but still pretty good.

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So I was about to ask you about the Silver Age earlier, right, given that they're playing

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into Bristleback.

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Yep.

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Do you actually ever go back for the Blink Dagger on Tiny, or do you just persistent

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getting as much out and out damage as possible to kill him during the break?

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The argument, I guess, for getting the blink dagger here would be the silencer.

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Like, if you can jump the silencer with the blink and blow him up immediately, the blink would pay itself off.

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But I feel like in the last game you had Oracle, who's maybe a little bit of a different breed of support.

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He's also a backline support, but he needs to be in position in the backline.

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The silencer can be sitting in the fountain.

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So there's a chance you buy the blink dagger and it basically does nothing.

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this itemization of Silver Edge into BKB into Harpoon might be a little bit better for the

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Tiny this time.

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First tool me of the game being taken, it will go towards Kylery.

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Eh, that's unfortunate.

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Pretty much, because Rubik in the previous patches, this shard of his was okay, but

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The hero was so bad that no one was even buying it, like you had to get so much mobility, so many items to make it work.

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Shark and Ruby, that was good.

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Makoto, could be in some danger here, nice spear from WS, pushing back these heroes with Pet Boom, allowing Makoto to just get out of that dream quell.

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4k gold lead right now for Aurora.

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Makoto just wants to be able to finish that agonim scepter and then I imagine they're gonna start his really forcing fights around the map.

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He's buying the time the elation shard on faceless void by the way.

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That's going to be his item after the manta, that's what he has queued up at least.

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Like it?

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Let me talk about it in a second, because Mero's getting tossed towards Aurora here.

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They should be able to bring him down, just gonna take a while here.

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Everybody's too healthy for him to realistically kill any of them off.

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Spear back towards the wall.

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Quick kill for Mero.

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He did manage to complete the BKB by the way, just before he died, so he's literally losing very little with his death right there.

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And the BKB of course is on time. I feel like they're going to have this pretty big Power Spike, BKB Puck, BKB Bristle, Mantle, the Faceless Void.

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Makoto.

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Yo, top-up to GBK.

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Okay.

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Early BKB from him, but he does not want to have any of the smoke.

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Yeah, but the group was so far away.

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They didn't really have any follow-up, he possibly could have just gotten away but he didn't want to risk it

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This first stages it seems like it will not be contested even though they do have the chronosphere available

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Back to the shard, I like it by the way, I think it's pretty good on faces 4 especially when you have silencer as well on your side

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Keep hunting guys, we are not farming creeps anymore, keep hunting.

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Now that's what I want to hear from my offlaner.

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After picking up a couple items it's like, yeah, keep hunting.

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It feels good to be able to do so.

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You do not want to take the chance of getting super late in an even game with a faceless Void, so

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right now when you are strong, keep doing this.

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And they almost have the agonist scepter now for Makoto.

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The silence as well on the other side right like we've talked about the global

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silence on one side this is a mini version it's a pretty good a we sounds

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from the void spirit that you kind of always want to buy into a pack but also

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into a faceless void silence is truly hurt the serial quite a lot

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there it is hi just online rubik you know we'll find himself in an awkward

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position as a high shift oh he actually has the stolen phase shift

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He's gonna try and buy some time here, Aether Revenants pulls back Miro, but GPK comes in just to guarantee the kill on Miro

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He is really not having a game on Rubik when it comes to stealing spells, like up to this point he had

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Claw spray

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Now he stole phase shift

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Phase shift can't come in handy if he had lift shard

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He could steal Timewalk that one time. He did, Timewalk is good

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Very well. News now on Makoto. Will be able to try and get himself away. Has a shield route active though, so very hard to kill him.

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Down on the other side of the fight though, Nightfall. Having to box with Miro who has a BKB and is just charging down the tiny Bristleback.

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Showing dominance. Miro just really strong right now. That's going to be the first life. Take him to Nightfall.

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Puck extremely low for GPK. He's on 80 HP. Will he be able to get out of here? No, Makoto. Brings him down at the Resonant Pulse.

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Now they want to change for more. Miro with another stolen time walk, hoping to find somebody near the river, but they've all managed to get away from the side of Beppu.

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He's super committed on the puck, like he went so damn deep, and he was already sitting on almost no HP. That was a bit mad.

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I guess the idea was they had a chronosphere, so he was trying to cook something up for a better chrono, for the faces to go in.

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But these heroes are way too tanky for him to just chop the chrono

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Golem by the way is back off cooldown

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Tier 2 towers being siege middle

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Katalmi's far away from the rest of his crew just waiting for the global to come back online

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Makoto doesn't know that he's right in front of him. So it's gonna be safe on Katalmi

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this year to towers falling really low middle imagine if they take another

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fight in the area which they want to do then kairu will be happy to just like

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throw the golems back towards pushing up he's breaking some records by the way

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with the golem being unused his own records at least in some other games

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he would drop it on a neutral camp at this point it's just like he can I think

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there is something in him that is forcing him to just use the golem it's

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It's part of his contract.

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Every second that the Golem is off cooldown, it's like, I don't know, we take a dollar out of your prize pool.

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I mean, he definitely...

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You don't get to see this often in Dota, but he has redefined the way a certain hero is being played, right?

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Like, you saw it with some different heroes, different mid players back in the day,

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but he definitely redefined how most players approach Warlock in lane.

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They're going directly onto this GPK Puck. They have nightfall there, but the DKB will emerge from this Puck, so he is AOK.

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You'll set down to save. They'll try to bring him back. They stole the pushback too. The 8th Remnant, Mikoto will have the damage.

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They're just hunting them. Just like WS said, this is a dare go time.

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They don't have an Aegis any longer, but they can take one tower, one objective after another.

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The downside of having a very strong late game hero, which is the faces void is the fact that his mid game is pretty weak

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Another tier 2 tower is being assaulted down on bottom the wave was being pushed in by WS

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Miro

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Not sure if nightfall scouted him

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He's not gonna go after him anyway

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He wants to be able to finish off his own farm, get closer to what's having the harpoon, make sure that he's capable of scaling as well.

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Do we have the blink dagger almost complete for Mira?

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I feel like that's been one of the things that's been lacking.

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If you can get this blink dagger, find the silencer potentially at the early portion of the fight, make it so much easier for WS to catch up and kill him.

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Oh, Mikoto might kill him. Top lane, silencer, he's caught up, I'm sorry, Soudreng, Soudreng is caught first, Soudreng is going to end up being brought down, Katyaomi.

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He's going to be joining his compatriot in the fountain. I mean, you said you want them to play far apart from each other, unfortunately doesn't seem to guarantee their safety.

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At this point, when I said it was because of the arena. The arena was always catching both of them.

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And at this point, I feel like the supports have died so many times, that they're so poor, that they don't have any defensive abilities of their own.

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Like, Hoodwink usually, even with just scurries, is very difficult to take down, very difficult to catch. It's an loser hero.

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But 7 deaths already on the Hoodwink in this game.

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Game change when Puck is actually able to pick up the blink toggle.

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It changes a little bit.

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Because then BKB...

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Okay.

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He was scanned by the way, so maybe this BKB was even necessary.

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White Spirit was getting really close.

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When you get to blink on Puck, which they do now,

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there's a different way of playing, right?

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like you can actually jump the backlines. One of the problems that they've gotten in their draft is

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Offlane Bristle, he's a full-on, just head-on tank, he's a bait, he's a hero that just tanks up,

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but he doesn't initiate very well. I'm gonna try to do that initiation like you said with Blink Dagger

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up, Kaori and Mira right in front of him. One has Luma, one has Blink, so they are able to play

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WS is waiting with the wheel scepter if needed and Nightfall is also showing up.

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And GPK still have the BKB ready to go if needed.

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This time around he was a little bit more careful with it.

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The next fight might be difficult for them unless they find Warlock because if you

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use Chrono on anyone he will just use the Golem on top of you.

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So the face is worried even with the BKB will not be able to hit the targets inside.

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and works all in again by Mera, just messing with Kirit each a bit.

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The Faceless Void has been avoiding dying, gotten quite a bit of form here.

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I think the big power spike as well for him is the level 20 talent, like he gets to hit

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real hard in the chronosphere, and you can see that they're kind of going all in for

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it.

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The drums on the silencer, plus the Solar Crest next on the silencer as well.

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They'll have a lot of attack speed for the Faceless Void.

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up right now by Aurora as well as by Bedboom. They are going to have a pause. The 10k net worth lead,

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I mean this is a game that has faceless weight in it. They still don't have like the most absurd

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damage inside the bubble. They'll have to focus like a specific target, right? Not like you can

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just kill everybody at once. They don't have the warlock for example. No, that was one issue

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that they had with the faceless weight pick in the end. I think this is one of those games

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where Faceless Sword is actually the damage in the chrono. There isn't really a lot of it.

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You can argue the Sharpshooter helps. It does, but it's not massive.

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He jumps onto Katyaomi, they kill the silencer, Miro able to clean up on the Mars and try to TP out, but if BKB ends just in time, he gets caught and it's a triple kill for those tiny Kronosphere on the back lines.

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It's not enough. Kiritage was trying to bring down Mikoto, just did not have the burst damage.

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They don't have any sorts of a damage. They don't have burst damage, they don't have overtime damage. There's just no damage at this point on the lineup of Beth Wum.

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A puck in the back is trying to actually deal with the rubik doesn't even manage to solo out the rubik

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And sure you managed to kill the Mars, but his job was done like he used all of his spells

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He prevented you from hitting anyone else for such a long time

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Meanwhile nightfall like we haven't really talked too much about the tiny fuck

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Can you do here puck gonna try to get out goes to the right-hand side racks are gone the first set is gone already

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He was thinking about going for a throne by the way, all the tiny, he moved towards the

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tier fours.

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He can go to just making sure GPK can't come home, he might actually be able to kill him.

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The Astro step did quite a bit of damage, he has 180 HP left on the puck.

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GPK, can you get out of here, the urn was ticking him lower and lower, us survive.

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Maus comes through, Aether Remnant doesn't connect, but the spear does, WS finds him

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in the trees while the Tiny was just demolishing your base?

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The Remnant was so close but didn't connect

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the Rebuke was also so close but didn't connect they still got him

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their take on this game

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Weasel take on this game WS is that is was pretty correct

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just hunt them just go one kill after another AC on Tiny

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We just bulked up and that's it.

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We also have Bloodstone on the corridor so he's also much harder to kill.

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Bushrack, how do you tonight fall with the sharpshooter hit?

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I don't know if they're threatening him just yet and there's no chrono for 25, but I'm

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going to be able to quickly burst through save, get a titch, jumping in, trying

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to get the bashes out on the tiny, but WS got a beautiful spear, throwing a titch

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towards the trees.

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He cannot keep up the right clicks even during that global silence.

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They still have the blink, BKB and the ultimate from the Mars. This could be very scary.

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They will decide to not push the envelope too much. They know that the puck is about to come back.

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He does have Dream Quail, Faceless Wood has Chrono again.

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They want to reset. BKBs were used of course as well. They will have the chaotic offering very soon too.

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And that's the first fight where Faceless Wood I believe had shard. In the previous one he did not.

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It's a cool concept, like just buying the shard this early on to get some extra damage as well, but it didn't feel like a whole lot.

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Yet again, WS actually really played that well. Just waiting for the time warp before the spear.

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So now we're 18k in for Aurora, 35 minutes.

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They are gonna smoke. Kiritich does not know that this is coming his way.

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Makoto's the one leading the charge.

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We'll see the puck now, they ping him in the lane, and he walks right into them.

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He's forced into popping the BKB.

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But they get half HP right now, my goodness.

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Now you're left on the back lines with a huge arena.

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They're looking towards trying to bring down GPK, but the dreamcwale.

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Holding back these heroes from Aurora.

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They're scared to get to the Kronosphere, looking towards Makoto.

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Kaori though drops the chaotic offering.

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Buying time for Makoto.

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Now they get the lift out on security.

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Kiritich, Nightfall is here as well, WS found the Spear, Kiritich is gone!

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Miro does at least get the trade onto Mikoto.

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Okay, load the sphere.

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But nothing else happens.

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Chrono was stolen by Miro, missed completely.

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At the same time, save.

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He's gonna get found out on the far side, next to Katoumi.

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So it's a 3 for 1 exchange, Aurora.

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Despite missing the Chrono, despite not finding their priority target in GPK,

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actually get a much more favorable trade than they anticipated.

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They're still chasing, by the way, Mars, TP'd top. They could have went into the pit, but why?

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They take objectives so damn quickly, Mars is already out pushing top, he needs to...

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Okay, they have a creep wave, so they don't actually have to out push top. This is another set of racks.

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Maybe... Okay, there's a tier 2 bottom, so it's not game.

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But there's no Chrono. And by the way, that Chrono usage was pretty spot on by a face exploit.

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Caught the Void Spirit on the edge and separated with the Chrono his whole team

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Like you couldn't ask for a better Chrono and it still didn't work

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You had to use BKB in that last fight to escape which means it's not available any longer nightfall now Godlike on this tiny

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Okay, what what do you do? What's the plan now?

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The plan is by damage you need more Damage. It is not good enough, you know

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Maybe some Parasma on Puck, that's why he was there by the way, he died next to the

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shop, he was about to complete it, it's not saving, I don't think you can save for buyback

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or anything like that, you just need a march.

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And you could argue that the build itself from Vasis Void kinda brought them to this

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situation.

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If he had like Jakiro or Invoker from Midlane, oh, Vasis Void's Kiritich?

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Ok, Makoto's on him, but he doesn't have BKB, he's chillin, it's fine.

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You think it would've been easier if he had gone for a Mjolnir?

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All right, it's hard to say, but on his own, he would be able to deal more damage for sure.

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Makoto, oh my goodness, he sets up for a play-on to save underneath the outpost, WSTP's on top of it,

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and he's trying to get himself to the low ground with the shop shooter,

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but save will nonetheless end up dead.

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Makoto is playing out of his mind, this is an incredible weight's per game.

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Everyone is on Aurora, there's a satanic level 25 tiny hitting your high ground by the way down, but even with the buybacks, defending this might be a bit rough.

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Parasma is up on Bucket Least, so they have some extra damage and that level 20 talent on Facesworth that we talked about.

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20 Talents to Chrono and the Agatom shot. He has a full Mantle so let's see what he can do. WS nice fear toss back onto Miro but Miro still very tanky.

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But there's gonna be a Chrono Sphere looking towards Kaori. Can he kill him inside the bubble? No, he cannot. Kaori's still alive.

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Eventually though, we'll be bashed down into death. But that was the entire DKB of the Faceless Void.

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Bristleback caught inside the arena as Mikoto goes outside of the fight.

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He wants to try and bring in Kiritich, forces back the faceless void.

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He jumps away.

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9-4, just holding back Miro.

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This Bristleback is extremely tanky.

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He will not die.

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WS does get the kill outside of the fight, onto the puck.

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Miro though finally runs down Miro.

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9-4 might be left behind here, surrounded by all of these heroes.

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They are right clicking into him.

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Mikoto not going to be able to enter the fight because Kiritich is right clicking

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him.

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time dilation he at least goes to bring down kata omi but the entire time they do manage to get

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the ages ws can he save his tiny all beautiful done two heroes caught inside the spear of mars

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kid it's just dies to the damage of nightfall miro no more bkb available how tanky are you really

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well you might be tanky but they're ignoring him for a moment looking towards getting kata omi the

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easier grab for themselves and eventually they succeed in that endeavor miro now he's the

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He's the one that's left alone, he's the one that's broken, he's the one that's killed,

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GG is called, half the duration of Game 1 but we are going to a decider, Aurora secure

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the Game 2 victory.

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I gotta say, this last fight from Beton did surprise me, considering they used the

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full chrono and the BKB from Facesuit just on Warlock.

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That's literally the only thing he got from the chronosphere, they still managed to

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take down a couple of targets. I think this last fight if Puck was off-screen

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fighting with the Mars, if he managed to solo get that kill this fight could have

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maybe even been won by a bad boy. But alas game three. The game of margins but

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the margin favorable for Aurora gaming. Shiva, what did y'all make of the

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performance from the poison blue? I would call it peel I think. Definitely not

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blue. But they did well and they did well with the Mars and we were a

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little doubtful of the Mars that's for sure but it proved to work out just fine

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here team. Yeah no it was a really really good game for Aurora. We wanted to see

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them have that killer conviction from the lads and exactly what happened

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right in regards to the early you know laning phase they had good net worth

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across all three cores they really shut down the faces void in that

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laning phase and then we never got to see Keratich truly become you know

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the carry that can escape to the jungle and put a kind of a timer on

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Aurora. It just felt like a face of void who was watching the game progress. I'd never really got to, you know, make a statement, just a very, very clean game from Aurora.

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Super clean game. Like we did have a lot of one sided games yesterday, especially on the evening shift. But this one was one sided, but also very entertaining to watch. We saw, like, Aurora completely popping off.

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Mikoto like this was a response for Park through a couple of times where they over extended on side of that boom team like going in too deep

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GPK like I think he was trying to set up the chrono in the net lane going in like he's BKB is down

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No, BKB and Bristol back. They try to go for a fight

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Maybe thinking they're gonna group up and land the chrono, but they held a very

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Type formation in terms of not grouping up not allowing him to get multiple man chrono

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I also loved like we had the lesson in right they spoke about it in the cast of course, but just hearing like

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Aurora going out like WSA. We're not farming anymore. We're hunting and like that was already the playstyle from like five minutes before

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We had the listening and it felt like the playstyle

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You know to the end of the game like having that identity of like, you know

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This is what we need to do to win

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Don't allow them on the map and every fight we're seeing these highlights is just Aurora finding heroes picking them off

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Making these moves and it's gonna say from Coyori. I love. I'm loving how he's making

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What up still feel like a viable hero with the loss of the facets, right?

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If anyone can, it would be him.

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Yeah, he reliably goes through that twin gate.

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He's applying that pressure. He's being just an absolute menace on a hero that,

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since the patch, printed everyone's forgotten.

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And he's like, no, I can still play this hero. I can still, you know, push my team forward

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and make sure we take the fight to DB.

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I like that they are forcing something, that they lost like Mars,

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especially the first 30 minutes of the first game, didn't really look that good.

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In this second game, it did look godly.

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It did allow them to like I respect Aurora for picking heroes that they still feel they're very good with even though like in a losing game

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You might want to switch things around and pick something differently

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But also believing in Kerry tiny nightfall this time around

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He was the one who was holding like himself back knowing that he has the backup from the warlock if necessary and

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Yeah, Chronos, they're just not landing like we saw it

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him holding Chrono for a long time then goes for like a solo kill on Void Spirit, doesn't

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result in a kill that doesn't even reduce his damage down to 50%.

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But I do want to echo your own point with that, Lacoste, as well, because I loved the

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way that Aurora made sure that there was just no good Chrono to have and continuous

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pressure.

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Yeah, it was all the time.

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But you can already see right, WS, you can see from his eichomization, sorry, that

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he has on the screen, like Mars.

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reason why he don't see the hero is a hero that always wants others to do well and you will look good.

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If your team's not performing, Mars won't take over the game, he won't like fix all your problems

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for you. He's a complementary offlaner and I think a lot of the discussion that we've had from

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interviews like Ace, like offlaners scale from Miro as well, like they want to get items, they

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want to become like part of like the scaling aspect. Mars doesn't scale, he just kind of

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continuously team fights, right? Yeah, what Mars does in a fight, like especially in the

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mid and late game fights. He's not in. He's not pumping in the damage. He goes in with the arena

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as most likely a follow-up spell to someone providing vision, tries to land his abilities. Then he

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goes back, tries to reset, find another angle. But he was very active. Like 10 minutes in, he decides

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to go for the mid lane, catches both of the supports. So this is why we said that it's very

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good Mars game. If they're the ones getting the jump, immediately they get level 6 on Warlock,

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drop to golem, take the tower, very clean execution, and this fight starts 4v5 but

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another good arena catches both of the supports inside and this is something

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these two supports have nothing to defend themselves against. Is there the ones

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who are getting initiated on? If this global silence isn't dropped like on the

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hero who's inside of the arena when you can break the combo so the spear

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doesn't go out or if you're the one who's initiating onto them so no

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or in a North Sphere, but this time around it just wasn't the case every single time it was Aurora getting that first initial jump, which makes the silencer kind of feel miserable.

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It does feel really bad to play silencer in this type of a game. It does feel like you're a one-button hero.

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We spoke about it before, right? Against big teamfight, if you can just initiate and you control when they use their spells, the teamfight doesn't look that good, but you have to be so consistent.

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You make one mistake, they get back on top of you, you are going to probably lose the next one. So, yeah, they were on the ball the entire time.

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This was a rare loss.

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I was about to sneeze.

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I was. Yeah, I thought it was such a it was a really big sneeze.

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And then for some reason it stopped back to you.

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She will. This was a rare loss.

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If you want to complete that, just look at the lights.

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It always helps you.

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I think that might have been on camera.

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Yeah, I am whatever.

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Take three.

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I wanted to talk about the park that lost.

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This is the first time I believe the GBK has had his hands on it

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and lost with it. And was that just because he got outlaned? Or was that just a result of how the whole game was playing out?

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I'd argue it's how the whole game plays out, right? Your void is really low on the net worth.

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Bristol back he has, you know, decent net worth. I think the void matchup would, you know, 50-50.

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You just have farming side lanes and no way to like reliably go coil into kill.

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There's no like overlap until you have, you know, cores online.

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Yeah, supports got ruined as well, relatively early on in the draft, like so he didn't really have heroes to play with.

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They ended the game with 23 deaths combined, so they were just kind of out there trying to make something happen.

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But every single time they are getting picked off, which means that especially if Hoodwing gets picked off,

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GpGate doesn't really have a hero that he can play with, because like with Parasma, maybe a Boomerang,

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you have that Sharpshooter damage, maybe you're going to be able to 1-2 punch,

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It never really happened because there was always a hero missing. There was always like no global silence

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There may be need because Katel me did die earlier

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You can also just see right like the way that Makoto was just playing and itemizing

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But he was somewhat sacrificial like getting the yule's having octarin eggs

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Like he's just jumping into the middle of the fights like basically being as loud as you can and then through that then

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I'm a WS nightfall, you know

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It's always the overlap and then if the same Makoto is initiated WS is hitting like a multi-hero arena

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You can you just can't really fault this game for Aurora

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It was just one of those games like fair play lads

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This is why you are top three potentially get into another grand finals

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Maybe getting your first one of the year, but still very good game

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Very good game, but the score is 1-1 both teams have had a very good game

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Actually game one was quite good from both teams as well

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But we're gonna find out who takes the series in game three after a break

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We went and asked all of the pros who they thought got the most buffed and the most

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nerfed from the last patch.

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So pay attention if you guys want to get some MMR.

08:32:33.420 --> 08:32:39.980
more buff I mean definitely this laundry it seems like I don't know about

08:32:39.980 --> 08:32:44.540
what were you doing there but it's really laundry matter right yeah you

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gotta enjoy it while it lasts mmm biggest buff fighting laundry or tiny okay

08:32:52.540 --> 08:32:59.740
just broken stats and it's just crazy I don't know what do you mean you don't

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I don't know dude, Alchemist has been in every game, you know, we are seeing lone druid in every single game, aren't these guys?

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100. The most buffed heroes I would say, on my position it's Mirana and Enchantress, so it's like, Snake King coming back.

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Okay, yeah, yeah. This too.

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Are you excited about those heroes?

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Yeah, of course. I'm a small Snake King.

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Okay.

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I think most nerf definitely Tinker.

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Tinker?

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Yeah, this hero was insane last batch and now it's like, I don't know what that turret is doing.

08:33:27.740 --> 08:33:31.340
Like I read it, I demo it, and I still don't get it.

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Yeah.

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The biggest nerf, it's tiny.

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Tiny?

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Yeah.

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People are still playing this hero.

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They realize it's Kira now.

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Oh, okay, okay.

08:33:39.820 --> 08:33:42.100
So now it's Kari, so we'll do it together.

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All right, I'll accept this.

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Nerf hero sits far like Jakira.

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I'm saying this in every interview, praising Kori.

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I want to say Largo.

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Largo, yeah, that guy got absolutely dumbstered, huh?

08:33:52.660 --> 08:33:53.660
Yeah, yeah.

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3-3 doesn't look it well then yeah, it's a big Sniper

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We're heading into a game number three here in the upper bracket finals Aurora versus

08:34:11.240 --> 08:34:17.040
Bed Boom the score is tight and winner of this third game will get their spot in the Grand Finals

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And we just heard some players talking about broken heroes and I feel like we're at a point where it's time

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to discover a new one I feel like there's probably still some untapped

08:34:26.780 --> 08:34:33.580
potential in in the draft it's already very different from what it was last

08:34:33.580 --> 08:34:38.580
week what do you guys I just found it funny because you said like untapped

08:34:38.580 --> 08:34:49.180
potential me and we got hooked on it so we did back to you she run

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that potentially are there some heroes that we see that still make the I mean at

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the hoodwink is a perfect example and potentially the rubik as well we see it

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banned here and there is that just because there's no other alternatives that

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are as decent or is the hero itself broken so specifically for pulse 4 I

08:35:07.580 --> 08:35:11.740
think those two heroes just are so good yeah I'm surprised I think shadow

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demon has been kind of disrespected a bit yeah it's still good more it's

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It's still good.

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They buffed his W, his menace, his innate ability has been nerfed pretty heavily.

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Now you would need what you had before in the previous patch to be level 6, to be as effective

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as it is now, and before you got it at level 1, which is a great harassment tool.

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But again, he's still a super strong laner, and I think this hero is also criminally

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underrated as position 4.

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Maybe with the rise of Ringmaster as well, because he has slightly more team fight, even

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though the hero hasn't been as popular, I think this could be a good replacement for

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potentially both of these heroes if they get Marathor, or if you want to be trying something

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else.

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If you feel like you need a saving tool rather than, because Rubik also has a built-in saving

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tool, you just need to have a charge.

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So it's a bit more on the expensive side, but yeah, I feel like these two could be

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good replacements.

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Well, we're going to find out what's happening in Game 3 here, and if any of the heroes

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are popping off there's any changes because so far there's no changes we

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have Aurora once again with first pick on dire side but boom once again with

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second pick and therefore overall last pick on radiant side and the bands are

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exactly the same so far as what it was in game 2. Yeah the main adjustment I

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think that these baby will have coming into this game is make sure that Keratich

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doesn't get completely shut down in the landing phase right when your last

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pick in your face is forward you're seeing the mods I think they

08:36:40.380 --> 08:36:45.260
vision the lane to go better and of course the draw of Dota, matchups might look like they should

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be fine but it just takes a little outplay here, you know certain pull or rotation and it can

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go a different way and then Mars just run away with the game. So for them it's maybe just

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considering keratich just the insurance of the laning phase. I was also advocating that they

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should pick instead of bristle on 16 go for lycan maybe because I think this hero would

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have much more map pressure because you can easily kill the tower. You can also send the

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bulls, send your creep to the mid lane, play on a different side as well if necessary, because

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the supports are very weak against Lycan, very weak against zoo heroes in general. So maybe that

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was something that he toyed with the idea, decided to go with the Bristleback because he

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is a bit more tanky guy. He builds into Lotus. Just didn't work out for them.

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But he had the net worth.

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Yeah, he had an okay game.

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Nothing else here.

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Well, we have a bit of a change up. We have the Tidehunter band instead of the Monkey King,

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and the Rubrikus band instead of the Pangalair, Sardar still removed from the pool,

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but Monkey King in and Pango in should be taken into consideration.

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Yeah, especially the Tidehunter band. Of course, maybe you have shown an incredible strength of

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having Tidehunter plus Wyvern. Like how do you team fight into that? Like if you're not as

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Decisive as you are in game 2 from Aurora, you probably will just eventually falter that combination of heroes

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And they then take the first bit puck again

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Maybe Aurora very very prominent puck teams if they are to both get to the grand finals tomorrow

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We probably will be talking about puck in every single game

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Yeah, but that's how much it means to the team as you see the stats 5 and 0 for Makoto

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They also shift priority every single time like they see it could be a good game for puck

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they decide to go with it even though GPK like he had an okay game as well is

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just I think the problem was between the supports and everything a lot of issues

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that they had to face in the previous game so the game does fall apart

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relatively quickly but they do tend to pick puck like this is something that

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they did when they were playing against part of vision as well pick puck in the

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second phase then in the third game they straight up picked it on 8 and they

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are doing the same thing so monkey King as a response you have boundless

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strike but we are not seeing the matchup anymore we're not seeing the matchup in

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the mid lane this was considered to be one of the best counter if not like the

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best counter maybe six months a year ago back when monkey was still played from

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the mid lane you get to diffu you start running around the map but I think the

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changes to Jingu over time yeah yeah like small nerves over the time what kind

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of killed the matchup for him so probably we're gonna be seeing a monkey

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playing from the carry roll.

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Yeah, I mean it's always possible that they try to play around with it.

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Maybe this is a game where they go, you know what,

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monkey carry go back to the mid lane.

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I would prefer, like you're mentioning, just monkey goes to carry,

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have that 24th pick, the last pick in the draft, let it be Miro, you know.

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I want to see the statement acts, the like and the big ticket of flamer.

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Oh, he's going to win the lane because of this.

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I want that type of identity.

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because how much Coyori opens up the game is Phoenix's, the Warlocks, the Venomots.

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Like, he is a killer in the lane.

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If Mirri can find a counter matchup to that, you can put Nightfall on the back foot,

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and that's what you have to do against a player like Nightfall.

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Yeah, Kero is like...

08:40:09.920 --> 08:40:11.760
...KeroPool is very interesting.

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He plays a lot of these heroes that don't mind going in.

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Phoenix, Venom, you mentioned them.

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He's just annoying.

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Yeah, he's just super annoying to lane against,

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and it's also securing Nightfall's farm.

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not afraid to die he comes back to lane he's even more annoying because he's

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bringing another blood grenade maybe a healing salve if he survives

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and he's playing these healers as well enchantress warlock undefeated

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on both of them the enchantress he's even greedy he doesn't even go for

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hill sometimes he goes full full zero filled and then rush aggs people are

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trying to like theorycraft that i've seen it from

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nine class as well this is good a little friend yeah happy three friends

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or whatever the ability is called. When you start to scale the undispellable route and

08:40:56.160 --> 08:41:02.000
having two creeps is such a strong negative scepter upgrade. And a lot of times you just

08:41:02.000 --> 08:41:06.520
get that. Like you, the games have been going long. We had like the longest game in the

08:41:06.520 --> 08:41:09.640
history of Valakia as well. So definitely could happen.

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The wind coming out again on the side of that boom.

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You could just preemptively, whoever is dropping from second pick at 13, you can preemptively

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load up the hoodwinks, the rubics, especially for the Falcon series.

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They just have it pre-saved there.

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You don't even need to have the animation.

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Well, and that win record right now for save, unfortunately, the previous game no longer

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hasn't been flawless, it's 1-1.

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We got the Mars.

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Third game in the row.

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You seem happy about it, LaCause.

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Big smile on your face.

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They did great. It's very good against a type of a hero that SAVE has been playing and it's also something that does ruin position 5.

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What Katomi wants to do, it's very good against his silencer, Wyvern, whatever decides to come out.

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Mars is that type of a hero that if you get the first initiation, he is going to be struggling.

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It also flips the, I mean it goes back to game one, in regards to the team fight breakdown

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that we had for Aurora's lineup, they are doing the same thing again, right, you've got

08:42:17.420 --> 08:42:21.580
them in arena and puck, maybe BB needs to look towards what Aurora have and try and

08:42:21.580 --> 08:42:25.400
copy what them, you know, have that pacing, try and lead from the laning phase, like

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if you take the fight to them, make them use their spells defensively, you can pick

08:42:28.880 --> 08:42:32.600
them apart and that's one way to take the fight to your opponent is picking

08:42:32.600 --> 08:42:37.780
the monkey used to be the counter to Park in the mid lane. Oscar still is the counter to

08:42:37.780 --> 08:42:43.080
Park in the mid lane just for the CS. But for Aurora, they have yet to pick their position

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4. And if they can find a 4 that can maybe dual lane mid like Cusul saves do, maybe they

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just take the winranger themselves. It could be a good option to thwart BB's aggression.

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Is this a good game for the ancient separation still? Camere played plus 4. Oracle! Is Oracle

08:43:02.080 --> 08:43:07.360
good against it? It's good against saving kill. Oh wait, it's a sorry it's a wrong side. Yeah, it's

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Oracle Hoskar. It's Oracle Hoskar. That's a classic Oracle monkey as we've seen in game number one,

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but it does feel like they don't have much teamfight other than Wukong's command. The teamfight

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is win lanes and the go fight. And for the first game this series Nightfall gets his hand

08:43:27.920 --> 08:43:30.480
On the Ursa, it was banned previews two games.

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Very good Ursa pick on 18.

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It's very good against both cores.

08:43:33.720 --> 08:43:35.600
It's good against Oracle as well, making

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it feel uncomfortable, but the stacking damage.

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These heroes, they like to reset the fight,

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monkey king playing a longer fight.

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Same goes for Huskar.

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And it's also another classic lane.

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It's Ursa with Warlock, so it does give you a lane.

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So I want to see what the Bed Boom is going

08:43:50.520 --> 08:43:53.240
to be able to pick on 24 to be

08:43:53.240 --> 08:43:54.640
able to try to ruin this Ursa.

08:43:54.640 --> 08:43:56.600
Give me the enigmas, the zoo,

08:43:56.600 --> 08:44:00.120
just something to make sure Ursa can't chase down the lane because if you have

08:44:00.120 --> 08:44:03.920
that there are major damage problems for Aurora like their damage will come

08:44:03.920 --> 08:44:08.080
through levels on like the puck the master wallop and then items on the Ursa

08:44:08.080 --> 08:44:11.640
has a really good window to utilize a monkey king that wants to go for a

08:44:11.640 --> 08:44:15.240
mage flay into deso a husker that shouldn't theory be winning his lane

08:44:15.240 --> 08:44:18.640
backed up by an oracle in the early game but there's a really clear window

08:44:18.640 --> 08:44:22.240
for BB to break this game it now is on mirror like does he want to be the

08:44:22.240 --> 08:44:25.840
offlane that you know puts Ursa to the jungle as early as possible or do

08:44:25.840 --> 08:44:28.840
you want to push in the fact you have no team fight and he goes you know what I'll

08:44:28.840 --> 08:44:32.480
pick up a blink stun and just get to ensure that if the game does get dicey

08:44:32.480 --> 08:44:38.000
I can at least be you know our backup plan. He is a player that likes the zoo

08:44:38.000 --> 08:44:43.120
heroes right? Yeah that is 100% an option. Yep totally it really is just

08:44:43.120 --> 08:44:47.160
dependent on does BB think they are going to win three lanes when the

08:44:47.160 --> 08:44:53.360
game or do they have to look at a different route? One of the zoo heroes is

08:44:53.360 --> 08:44:58.000
out, Enigma gets banned, Respect is there. Shadow Demon that you guys touched upon earlier

08:44:58.000 --> 08:45:03.280
as a potential position for to still be one of the popular ones, gets banned out there

08:45:03.280 --> 08:45:08.680
as well as for the last two picks. On one side we are looking for a hero, for Miro the

08:45:08.680 --> 08:45:13.360
offlaner we just talked about and of course Aurora they are looking for position four

08:45:13.360 --> 08:45:19.280
most likely for Miro. I'd be okay with some Ringmaster that could come out for Aurora.

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even that Windranger that you did mention, if they want to be having a hero in the mid lane,

08:45:24.560 --> 08:45:30.720
just because of the matchup, they could start 2v1, but then again, leaving Mars alone, this

08:45:30.720 --> 08:45:36.600
is not a self-sustainable offlaner by any means. This is not like Primal Beast or Bristleback,

08:45:36.600 --> 08:45:41.880
who can try to creep skip. It's going to be Mars, so it's going to be slightly awkward

08:45:41.880 --> 08:45:45.600
if they decide to do so, so we'll see if they're going to be having some kind

08:45:45.600 --> 08:45:53.600
of a new tech. I think maybe something like a Marcy could also be on the table because

08:45:53.600 --> 08:45:58.720
it does allow you to have extra bit of a save and it does allow you to have a flying career

08:45:58.720 --> 08:46:02.720
and then you can manipulate the creep waves as well in this matchup because you do get

08:46:02.720 --> 08:46:07.920
the flying career from Marcy and then you can drag it, play behind the tower as puck.

08:46:07.920 --> 08:46:11.960
This is something that has been used before the counter Huskar in the lane.

08:46:11.960 --> 08:46:16.360
That's a really cool idea for sure. I think Nisha did it as well right? Yeah, previous tournaments.

08:46:18.440 --> 08:46:20.440
Okay, so their way of dealing with it is

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Just hoping that the disarm is enough right for a taser onto a guy getting dove put haska monkey into awkward positions

08:46:28.200 --> 08:46:30.200
Aurora's entire lineup is just

08:46:31.080 --> 08:46:35.160
Putting out the early game fires right the pressure will come to them if they can survive

08:46:35.640 --> 08:46:37.720
They will have a really good looking lineup

08:46:37.720 --> 08:46:41.160
They have multiple ways to open up the back line initiate for nightfall

08:46:41.160 --> 08:46:45.780
They have damage they have scaling and then for BB. It was really just a good old-fashioned

08:46:45.780 --> 08:46:49.240
Let's try and break the lanes they go for a back rider sure in the late game

08:46:49.240 --> 08:46:53.440
I was finding it's back right a bit in the laning phase the sticky napal with the firefly

08:46:53.440 --> 08:46:59.260
There's a lot of kill threat available for Miro. So yeah, BB game three. You're gonna win three lanes

08:46:59.260 --> 08:47:01.260
You're gonna crush the game. It's like go go go

08:47:01.640 --> 08:47:02.800
just

08:47:02.800 --> 08:47:06.440
It's just disgusting laning draft pretty much, but in a good way

08:47:07.120 --> 08:47:10.200
Yeah, sure. Yeah, if they lose though in a bad way sure

08:47:11.160 --> 08:47:13.160
Okay, which draft do you prefer?

08:47:14.100 --> 08:47:16.100
If I was a pub

08:47:16.100 --> 08:47:18.920
probably BBs because I think Aurora would probably GG out

08:47:18.920 --> 08:47:23.760
That'd be like some you know tilted Ursa player by like minute seven. Okay, because he's gonna have a tough time all night

08:47:23.760 --> 08:47:25.760
Yeah, but competitively

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Aurora's draft just feels more fun to play and it just has the the eventual like gotcha

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Yeah, I thought of these teams like I think it's gonna come down to first Roshan as well

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because both Ursa and Huskar, they like to have ages, so we're going to be looking into

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like one gig of fight, making sure that you're either Huskar or your Ursa is getting it,

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and then whoever gets that is going to have like the advantage for the next five or ten

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minutes.

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Ursa, good game overall for it, want to see how much he's going to be able to get out

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of the landing stage, considering that he has a strong support, extra bit of a healing,

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but then again you are playing into super aggressive lane, you're playing into bat

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right or not something you like to play into early on.

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And we have the overall puck pick, is that something that, are we going to see the rotations?

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Because Huskar is going to be normally winning that matchup.

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It feels like the puck might need more towards keeping the game alive, right?

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Skipping the waves, like when you see Huskar walk down the lane with Oracle behind, you

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need the puck to be behind them, killing the next creep wave, so you gliff, eat up an

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extra minute of time and just kind of keep the game alive as long as possible.

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So no 3v3 mint?

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Mate, I mean against Huskar, having numbers advantage is always a good way to kill

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He doesn't have course rise anymore. So he's not silly broken in laning phase. There will be opportunities to kill him

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But you need to have like three heroes instantly and they need to like slowly react and then you get the kill

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Yeah, we saw like I can't remember which team it was

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But it was like a tri lane instantly

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They got a kill and then they played it from there because it was a bad matchup against the Queen of Pain

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I believe so want to see if they have some like new tech because seems like we figured it out pro players did as

08:49:01.520 --> 08:49:02.840
Well like what needs to be done

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So I want to see how they're going to be approaching because if you're straight up playing one we won

08:49:06.280 --> 08:49:11.440
You're not having a good time. Okay, we're gonna see how game three will play out before we do though

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We are gonna check in who slacks found

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That's right my friends. We are here with KP notoriously hard man to get any information out of this event now

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I'm not gonna ask you a question about you

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I'd like to ask about the enemy coach coach mr. Bolk as soon as you were doing your draft you picking that techies

08:49:27.240 --> 08:49:31.000
He insta locks bad writer. What do you think he was thinking?

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Uh, nothing to be honest.

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Nothing?

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And why would you say that?

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Nah, I'm just kidding.

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Uh, I mean, maybe like, I guess they just had a plan against Ursa, which is fine.

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We'll play it, you know?

08:49:45.180 --> 08:49:46.180
Fantastic.

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Now, one of your most loved heroes, obviously a hero that you really, really value, put

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a lot of effort in, is the puck.

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We did see the puck in all three games this series.

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Pretty interesting stuff there.

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Uh, so what's the question?

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Sorry.

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You didn't play puck every game in this series.

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You were supposed to correct me.

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Oh, yeah, my bad guys.

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You play Mars every game, so that

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means that you really, really fire you.

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Mars, why?

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Mars has big muscles.

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God damn you, god damn it.

08:50:16.640 --> 08:50:18.240
I really thought I'd get you on that.

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All right, all right.

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Anyway, this might be the last game that we see you guys.

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I do hope not.

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Can you give us any insight at all about your team?

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Just literally anything.

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Uh, just BKB, TP, and Tip9Full, who gets him every time.

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Okay.

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When you just buy BKB, just do it, envision, you know, just do it.

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You don't even know, you guys are uppers, you don't even get eliminated if you lose this, you know?

08:50:44.220 --> 08:50:45.380
I was supposed to correct you there.

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God damn it, alright, just go into the game, thank you so much, I'll after, just go, thank you.

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Thank you very much, Slacks. Enigma might have been banned, but KP is still in the real enigma.

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And here we go, big list. It's game three. Aurora gaming looking for their first grand finals.

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BedBoom trying to get back into the grand final that they've won in the past.

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Who do you back here? Do you back Aurora with the best carry player in the world?

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Or do you back BedBoom with the best carry player at this tournament?

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Looking at the lanes, I see some really good lanes for BedBoom.

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And like through the tournament, through many tournaments we have discussed the

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the laning prowess of this team.

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They're just way too good in the laning stage

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and converting that advantage

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into just suffocating you in the mid-game, right?

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Like, there is no space there.

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You can't take any objectives when they get good lanes for them.

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And it's a Huskar into a puck.

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It's a pretty damn difficult matchup for the puck.

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Top lane, you have a bet into a Nersa and a Warlock

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and a Hoodwink as well is top.

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So there's just so much kill potential.

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The only kind of X factor for me is this bot lane.

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We'll see how much Techies plus Mars will be able to do,

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because Techies is actually really good into the monkey for multiple reasons.

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Like, not only the damage that you get from Blastoff,

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Taser works really nicely.

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You get to this spell and this arm.

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Taser is kind of a ridiculous spell, honestly.

08:52:13.900 --> 08:52:17.260
Very much looking forward to seeing how Miro is going to be able to play with this.

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Unfortunately, you know, we heard the panel talking about it.

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The fact that these heroes and the way that the lanes are set up

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don't really allow for people to move, mate, and help the puck if things start going wrong.

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Yeah, out of all of the teams, I feel like it's actually a bet-boom to do that the most.

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Like when the Huskies played against them, they're the ones...

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...Tanel talked about Windranger, they did that last game.

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Also, I remember the game in which they used Ringmaster plus Dragonite

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versus a Huskar as well, killed him multiple times in the mid lane.

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So they don't shy away from it, but no one is really copying their tech right now.

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Maybe maybe they patented it.

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We'll see how it all pans out for them.

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It's mid lane. We already see GPK able to tick Makoto down extremely low.

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Only one Tango remaining on this park in GPK.

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We've all been here with Huskar lane.

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You just like team help.

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I have one hero in my ban list.

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only one.

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Haskar?

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Yeah.

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And it still goes through.

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Fucking game.

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But you've been a G1 Haskar hater for like a long time.

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I have been, but to be honest, I don't hate the hero as much as I used to.

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I do believe that the Haskar in the current state is a waif, more of a fair hero to

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face against.

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It's still a lane bully, like he still dominates most matchups.

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But at least there's no built-in dispell from the get-go, like built-in dispell

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on Huskar from level one was just ridiculously stupid.

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Three wins for the Huskar at the tournament.

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Of course, the one loss was when Ed Boon played against the Huskar.

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So they know how to win with it, they know how to beat it.

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Bottom, kiddie-titch, obviously seen how good he can be on this monkey king.

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That's maybe the one thing you can say that they don't have the greatest amount of tools

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to keep multiple heroes within the Wukong's command in this game.

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But they don't have to. I feel like the way that they can play is around the lasso, they can play around the housecar.

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Eventually housecar can buy himself an Agamemes as well, so individual control is there.

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The area control definitely isn't for Aedion.

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So their teamfight is basically where I'm getting to is not that incredible.

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But this isn't a draft that's made to teamfight. That's not what they drafted for.

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They drafted for lane domination into scrimmage domination.

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So what you're saying is that Bat Ladder should rush Eigen and Saptai here?

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I hope not. And I'm interested in seeing what his item build will be.

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It has switched up a little bit, like most players aren't going for the basic boots of bearing that they did in the last patch almost every game.

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I feel like Collapse was the one that kind of started the trend playing this Bat again on the offlane from position 5 with boots of bearing.

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And then people just followed

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Okay, it's already having queued up his normal round of items mage layer decilator

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Every single game is gonna be playing this unless he's playing nice deal, then you might build a little bit differently

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Five last is by the way

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That's it that that's what we have for buck and he has like a big job to do this game

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Right like he needs to find the blink dagger eventually

08:55:37.420 --> 08:55:42.740
has to find his way to the Oracle. We talked about the Monkey King and

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Kiritage, like this is a pretty good game for him once again because he does have

08:55:46.780 --> 08:55:51.060
Oracle with him. One of those heroes just absolutely enables the Monkey King.

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Oh yeah. Look middle, Makoto, taking super low, he has silence for a moment, almost

08:55:57.620 --> 08:56:03.460
burned out. He should, or is he going to actually just straight up die? No, he'll be fine. He has the face shift, but he's

08:56:03.460 --> 08:56:06.380
He's expanded all of his resources just to survive down bottom.

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Jingu triggered up by Kiritich looking towards WS, but WS will be able to get some damage

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back.

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Beautiful blast door from Mira in tandem with the spear, nicely done by Aurora.

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I was thinking if there's like something to be said about Oracle going 1-1-1 in this

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game, it does hurt you quite a lot and you don't have a lot of mana on Oracle to

08:56:28.740 --> 08:56:30.180
Utilize Fates Edict

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but

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You can say that fates Edict is really easy to use versus Blastoff like you can use it while he's in here

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Make it most of the magical damage

08:56:39.580 --> 08:56:42.420
So maybe that was an option, but then you don't have any

08:56:43.100 --> 08:56:46.060
Killer potential with the purifying flames level 2

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Does have the level 2 flames right now, but Michael through the twin gate

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I just wanting to make sure that the twin gate rotation doesn't come towards them

08:56:55.580 --> 08:56:58.360
You shouldn't really be concerned about this Batrider lane.

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There's not really much Wall-Oc and Ursa can do to threaten a Bat, is there?

08:57:02.080 --> 08:57:03.580
In fact, they might be able to threaten him.

08:57:03.580 --> 08:57:05.580
Damage coming out with the Acorn shot.

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They have the Firefly out. Nightfall taking low. Nightfall is gonna die.

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Mira, let's get the Blast off Counter-Kill.

08:57:11.580 --> 08:57:15.080
But so far, well worth it for the side of Bat-Boom team

08:57:15.080 --> 08:57:17.580
if they can get out with the hoodwink and they do.

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They almost get him too.

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The one thing that Taser at least does not do is stun.

08:57:23.580 --> 08:57:29.820
It does everything else, it gives you movement speed, it disarms, it dispels, it does damage, it doesn't stun yet though, so...

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Goodwinke at least manages to get away, and so far so good for Aurora on top, like this is much better than I expected.

08:57:36.520 --> 08:57:47.480
Nightfall of course, like when it comes to Ursa, I don't think there's a better carry player objectively on the Ursa, and he knows how to play versus all the counters.

08:57:49.480 --> 08:57:50.780
Sometimes though, the counter is not...

08:57:50.780 --> 08:57:52.780
Miro, top lane actually. Miro?

08:57:52.780 --> 08:57:53.780
Miro?

08:57:53.780 --> 08:57:56.780
Actually gets ran down by the... How did that happen?

08:57:57.780 --> 08:58:02.780
He went into the lane without Firefly. It was still on cooldown, so he didn't really have any defense.

08:58:02.780 --> 08:58:04.780
No mobility.

08:58:05.780 --> 08:58:06.780
Oh well.

08:58:06.780 --> 08:58:08.780
He just got ran down.

08:58:08.780 --> 08:58:10.780
Nightfall is like, thanks buddy.

08:58:10.780 --> 08:58:12.780
Gave back some of the gold you took away from me earlier.

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There's also a lot of hoodwink is away from lane, so we have a lot of time for this Ursa to keep farming top lane.

08:58:17.780 --> 08:58:24.780
This top lane I think went way better for Aurora than maybe even they expected.

08:58:24.780 --> 08:58:27.780
This was a pretty good kill now as well.

08:58:30.780 --> 08:58:33.780
Saves gonna obviously be doing his stat range in Anagans.

08:58:35.780 --> 08:58:38.780
Aurora, what build are we gonna be getting from WS here?

08:58:38.780 --> 08:58:40.780
Do you think he's gonna go for the ULT again with the blink?

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Or is he just gonna go straight, blink BKB?

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I think straight blink is also fine this game

08:58:48.980 --> 08:58:53.900
I think you'll sector has a lot of value on radiant actually not really sure sure who can buy it

08:58:53.900 --> 08:59:00.400
I don't think anyone does in Koro. Okay coming in with the dive here bushwack will be there Makoto is absolutely dead

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And so it begins lizard level six on husker

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Seven at this point by three seven and a half actually after the kill

08:59:08.900 --> 08:59:15.900
So, Puck did get something out of the lane. He's sitting on 28 last hits. Honestly, some stacks have been taken by him as well.

08:59:16.900 --> 08:59:19.900
That's what I mean. Might get punished down bottom. They have a lot of kill potential here.

08:59:19.900 --> 08:59:24.900
On the strike does come out. Fates eating to buy some time in GPK, making his first big rotation.

08:59:24.900 --> 08:59:31.900
They TP out on this Mars. Mira doesn't seem like he'll be so lucky. We'll just take out to the burn damage of the Husker.

08:59:31.900 --> 08:59:37.900
On the other side of the map, save. Try to TP out, but Nightfall should have the damage to rip through the squirrel.

08:59:37.900 --> 08:59:39.900
Okay, he absolutely does.

08:59:39.900 --> 08:59:42.900
Okay, so that's rate position force, right?

08:59:42.900 --> 08:59:47.900
Huskar rotating bottom, getting one kill, but not a lot of control, of course, from Radiant.

08:59:47.900 --> 08:59:53.900
It's something that we mentioned earlier, so just deepening out after you see one of these spells being used as your best option,

08:59:53.900 --> 08:59:56.900
versus Huskar most of the time, that's your only option.

08:59:56.900 --> 09:00:00.900
Huskar.

09:00:00.900 --> 09:00:06.900
Okay, yesterday when we saw Nisha play this hero, we didn't really get to see a fair showing of what the hero's supposed to be about,

09:00:06.900 --> 09:00:08.780
given the nature of the game.

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Talk to me worldwide.

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Yesterday, what did we should go?

09:00:10.780 --> 09:00:15.220
You went Omelette, BKB, you got Fed and Aghantim Scepter.

09:00:15.220 --> 09:00:17.420
Does he need Aghantim this game for a little bit more control?

09:00:17.420 --> 09:00:19.900
I think he went S and Y as well at some point.

09:00:19.900 --> 09:00:20.940
Aghantim is good.

09:00:20.940 --> 09:00:22.300
Aghantim is good on Huskar.

09:00:22.300 --> 09:00:24.780
It just depends on what kind of style

09:00:24.780 --> 09:00:26.380
you want to be playing.

09:00:26.380 --> 09:00:28.540
He's playing into a puck.

09:00:28.540 --> 09:00:30.820
It's not too bad if you can manage to land

09:00:30.820 --> 09:00:32.660
your Rulty on him at least.

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So I like it, but I feel like it's a very late item

09:00:36.860 --> 09:00:40.300
him in this particular game for him.

09:00:40.300 --> 09:00:45.540
Armored, BKB, maybe even a blink eventually, just being able to jump the backlines and

09:00:45.540 --> 09:00:47.180
starting Zolf.

09:00:47.180 --> 09:00:53.180
It's more about the first rush and the first stages for the Huskar and how easily, if

09:00:53.180 --> 09:00:56.140
at all, he'll be able to get there.

09:00:56.140 --> 09:01:00.740
WS, pretty fantastic job on this boss down bottom.

09:01:00.740 --> 09:01:04.420
As you mentioned earlier, Techies can be very good in the lane against this monkey.

09:01:04.420 --> 09:01:06.160
WS has taken advantage of this.

09:01:07.200 --> 09:01:09.200
Getting closer and closer towards that blink.

09:01:11.960 --> 09:01:15.400
It would be really nice if on the first blink dagger they could get the Ursa involved, Lawline.

09:01:15.400 --> 09:01:18.760
Speaking of involvement of multiple heroes, Kaori drops the first golem.

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And as you said in the previous game, if this spell is available, Kaori will use it at the first opportunity.

09:01:25.080 --> 09:01:27.760
GPK though was down bottom, looking towards Mira.

09:01:28.000 --> 09:01:30.240
WS unable to spear him towards the tree.

09:01:30.480 --> 09:01:32.000
So GPK collects another kill.

09:01:32.000 --> 09:01:47.000
He gets the kill, but he isn't really getting a lot out of the map with this smoke, he needs to go back mid, defend the towers that Golem is, pressuring it, and by the way, it will be the blink straight up after the armlet on the Huskar.

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Something that we didn't mention, like one of those classic build on the Huskar allows you to play the game very, very actively.

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Yeah, you just did that.

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Calary.

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Tips GPK, cause he had to life break onto the Golem.

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Free gold for this Huskar.

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It's a decent chunk of change.

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You get like 150's for the Golem.

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It's not bad.

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You have a C-Dragon here Aurora.

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I'm gonna have to decide how much effort they wanna put into defending this tier 1 tower.

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They're smoking up.

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They want to go.

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No level 6 of Techies and no Golem.

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We do have arena though. We'll see if Katomny can break the smoke. He doesn't have level

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6 either, so there's no false promise to bail out GPK if he does get caught. GPK is backed

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off, not playing in the dangerous area anymore.

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And speaking of Katomny, he had a fantastic Oracle gain previously. He did a lot. He's

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getting down on, and there you go. Fade seeded. Completely negated the blast off.

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Yes, we'll still find the spear onto him though, pushing him towards Makoto and

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the gang drop shooter my oh get him dude it was like 70% HP or some shit like

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what the hell are we sure savings in a CS player dog this is the second game in

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a row it does something crazy like this shout out say that was max damage right

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there almost ridiculous okay techies he is kind of a squishy hero he's sitting

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on 780 total, but it still looks nice to get sniped that way.

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There's a silver lining for Aurora though, because all of this movement from the hood

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rink has given a lot of space to nightfall.

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He's been actually able to keep pace basically with this Husker on top.

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Dreamclaw from Makoto, onto save, nearest here as well, that's after last though.

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They throw it up onto GPK, there's gonna be this Husker coming through to throw in

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the damage on Makoto.

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Makoto burning lower and lower, they need to run, they find him eventually so much

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fire damage between Batten and the Husker. Sharp shooter again by the way. That's the

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thing that finished him I believe so. Bat did die. Arena. Okay, GPK, spear. Armored

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though. He gave the armored toggle during the traversal time so he is completely fine.

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The arena will come out but oh no the ultimate from GPK puts it inside the arena. WS needs

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to run. Nightfall. Has no come closer. Trying to zone him back on the Husker.

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Miro those on the far side of this Ursa, all of a sudden Nightfall regretting having gotten involved in this fight

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till end of losing his life, Miro even tips him, Puck is back, Kaiori did drop the ultimate, but WS might be dying first before any of that happens

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He's falling so low, the purifying flames almost killed him, thus they are alive in the end

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A sharp shooter this time around, doesn't really connect

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Look, I respect Aurora for what they're doing, but is this really the kind of a game that you want to play versus a Khaskar?

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This is the kind of a game, the way it looks...

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Oh, mid lane Puck.

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Nice little purge onto the lifebreak.

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Still gonna eat quite a lot of damage though.

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Oh my god, that's so much!

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Five Blinnings, does that phase shift, so he'll be okay.

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He'll be fine, but he's fine because Purge missed.

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Like the Fortune's Den was used in the Huskar,

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but Huskar didn't get close enough.

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Like if there was that route, he was absolutely gone.

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Be a goner.

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They have a Blink now on Huskar.

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They do indeed, fuck, he joins it, he's on the high ground here.

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They might not have the vision of where the fuck is at, but they have easy grab onto the forelock.

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Fortune's in to interrupt the TP, he ends up dead.

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Bushwack from save!

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Yo! Yo, this guy, this guy's the fissure.

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Straight up tips, the Bushwack was good, but enabled by a high ground ward that he plans, right?

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Like he plans the high ground ward, instantly gets the Bushwack.

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What should I call buffed by the way? It's a little bit of a better spell even without using Scurry

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Yeah, it's it's pretty nice, especially now with the new build the new build on hoodwink is

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Most of the time H lens and chasm right like you get that aoe increase

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And it's really good on hoodwink because it's a huge increase for a spell that usually doesn't have a lot of aoe

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Hmm.

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It's a hoodwink hero.

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They're certainly one of the supports of the tournament alongside the Rubik.

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And speaking of him, he's going for Yulz.

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I really like this because you are playing...

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It's not for puk in the silences, it's for the earthside.

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Every enrage will be followed by the Yulz scepter by the hoodwink.

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Rosh by the way.

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Yep.

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Not really too much they can do about this.

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They scan it out on the dire side so they know this is happening.

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Hoodwink is standing nearby to make sure that the entry point is blocked off.

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Still no blink dagger on the mask.

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We'll still see the Hoodwink.

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Nice bushwack.

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Drop shooter to push the Hoodwink away.

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Yeah, this is over. They have to back.

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They don't have techies. I don't think they will contest this.

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No techies, no worse. They're too far.

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Okay, these lines that they just drew on the map are the best lines that they have had.

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Like, so far.

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I feel that they started falling apart a little bit,

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just trying to fight the Huskar when he's the strongest, like whenever Huskar dominates

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the laning stage, you don't want to poke the bear, like you don't want to fight the bees,

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just run, split the map, farm as much as possible.

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Alright, we'll get found.

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Oh hey, get it, you're so apology, forgot you were in the game.

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There's always a lot of happen with Huskar games, right?

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You just focus so much attention on the Huskar that one of your side liners is

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pretty much going to have a free time catching back up

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it's around this Kiritich

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it's both of them right? like 8k net worth on

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on the huskar 7.3 on the bat

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Kiritich is catching up as well

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Ira

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is scouted

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is indeed

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Kiritich

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you're able to follow him and oh

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you know it's one thing trying to run away from

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a monkey king but with gpk she was up yeah yeah yeah you're dead

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almost with the DZAR by the way but not quite

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that was funny to see a fortune then follow him across the entire map

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it's kind of a cool play that you can use

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very often with an oracle

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sometimes when you're playing with any show that initiates you can precast it

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sometimes if you're playing with the spirit breaker you can cast on him while

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he's charging in it's nice to have

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next to a route of course

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skill will lead to a tier one tower being claimed on bottom

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How tilted do you get when you play versus Huskar?

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What's your tilt meter from 1 to 10?

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1 to 10?

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Do you play mid?

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You don't play mid, right?

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No, I don't play mid.

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So my tilt meter is maybe like a 7,

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because I see my mid is feeding.

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Then I'm like, dude, what do you want me to do, bro?

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Try no farm as much as I can.

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Kauri will get the TP out.

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Should be fine inside the fountain.

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Yeah.

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It was forced to use the Shadow Word as well.

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I'm 10.

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I'm 10 out of 10.

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Yeah, but you play mid.

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Every time.

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Andres up on top, WS.

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He picked up this blink dagger, he was hoping that his team would be the ones to use it, playing aggressively.

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Unfortunately, the gank comes towards him, he'll end up losing his life.

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They play in GPK, he's not done just yet, looking towards Mokodo.

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Found the silence, they have the Bushwack follow up too.

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This is all falling apart now Liz, what do you do?

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What's the plan to get out of this vortex of the Haska?

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Is there a blink flying out? Yeah there is, there's a blink flying out to us.

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They have Arena, Plastekis, plus Ursa with a blink.

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Huskar, it's not a free Huskar game.

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Even though it floats that way as he's diving the tier 3s,

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maybe it is a free Huskar game, never mind.

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It's a Huskar after all.

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They have what it takes.

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Sometimes when you're playing versus Huskar,

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at no point in the game can you threaten him.

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In this game, they can.

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Ursa isn't a bad core into the Huskar.

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It's just that the network discrepancy might be a bit too high

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You know what you know it does told me at 10 techies broke that's a lane against the techies then I told

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I've been in 11 actually I

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Lose the lane I try to go farm and his mind's everywhere as bottom first arena of the game comes out on security ditch

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Nightfall, okay, can they get away? That's the question because GP K is now shown up school has access to the ages

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Save is nearby as well. I already forced to drop the golem GP K

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No fighting, gets the false promise, they burn damage, able to take down WS, Nightfall

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doing his best to try and run away right now, they jump forward with the 4-2-10, they get

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the silence, they get the root, they get the kill.

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One of the best things that you have in your skill set versus an Ursa of course on Huskar

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is the silence, preventing the enrage, Nightfall in this situation got a bit greedy,

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They got the monkey king kill, he wanted a bit extra, wanted to go for the hoodwink and

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yeah, didn't work out in the end.

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Again, while those Polish heroes are playing together, Miro was chilling metal, reaching

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off his bongo boots in DKB.

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I love the forager oracle by the way, he's just carrying mushrooms, ironwood nuts as

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well, like he just gave the mushroom I believe to probably, okay, on hoodwink it

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got used.

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Do you forage?

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No.

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I farge at the shops.

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Okay, fair enough.

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Mars?

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He is looking like he's in trouble. Nice little blink away from him.

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They do have an observer ward that scouts GPK or scouts Makoto up on top and they found him.

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Silence is out. Bushwack is there, Makoto.

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He probably thought that while they missed the WS kill, so maybe they'll go back, but this observer ward, it gets to plot to the ward, obviously it's safe.

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And the ward is actually running out by the way.

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10 seconds remaining, just enough time to get him that extra kill.

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Houdmink is one of those heroes that can play behind enemy lines, like you can run through the trees of course

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and it makes warding a lot lot easier.

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Bat is hunting.

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That's not a big dagger just yet, doesn't seem like you'll need a flame breakout.

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Spear will miss, catches the lasso onto Kaori.

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It's 19 to 7 right now. It's a 9k gold lead at 20 minutes in against the Huskar draft.

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Huskar gaming.

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It's got PKB now as well.

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I think they're ready to pressure the tier 2 objectives.

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Like tier 2 towers, tormentor, it's all available for them.

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Roche of course still is dead.

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When you're playing this kind of a draft on Huskar, you need the secondary Aegis.

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WS, Endanger here, Keratich able to jump on top of him, they dropped out the Wukong's

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command and they're just doing whatever the hell they want man, like Aurora just has

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to run scared every time one of these Bedboom heroes show.

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Keratich just wanted to play the game as well, like he joined.

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He felt probably a little bit neglected at this point.

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Like I want the team too guys.

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I've noticed that when Bedboom have their best game, this game where you can sort

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You sort of forget that heritage is in it right for a little bit of time

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Is that good or a bad thing?

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It's a good thing because when he shows up all of a sudden he's over farmed

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You're like what the hell?

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The best game for Batmumar the ones where you don't see heritage at all

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Seems right

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Feels bad man though Mira, last off

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Trying to joke but there's just way too much speed on Bat maybe he can get away

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TP in 5

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Dr. Taser behind them some bombs along the way. You still don't have the blink daggle from Miro. It's actually out

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Tell me being taken right now

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Who will gain the luck? I feel like it's really bad for a war rifle

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They get the Hunters boomerang additional spell damage with a huskar in the game often that's exactly what they get

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There's a huge difference between the shards, between the Oracle and the Hoodwing, they locked out.

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They absolutely locked out. They're taping mid immediately after.

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He can't cross the river, like you cross the river, let's see, he's trying to hide behind the trees.

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Push back, wall connects. You know why you died bro? There's a ward in the triangle.

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That's why I'm going into the river.

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Who wants to do the ward?

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another another four seconds by the way and the word is gone so second time

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someone dies on an expiring word oh my god there's just a kind of unlucky I gotta

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say when it comes to division and of course they will go right on ahead and

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D word the words that can replace so literally just ended up dying for

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nothing I don't know if this lead is insurmountable or not but they are

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getting to the point on Aurora where they can fight. That's the BKB on Eiffel. It's

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not perfect. I feel like you need a basher as well for your lineup to be

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completely there, but at least with the BKB you can ensure the enrage usage.

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Well they know who he is heading to because they spotted him underneath an

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observable watch. Katahomie is one this time though, so they have a pretty good

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idea of where the Toskara or this Ursula is playing. Kauri is gonna get

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jumped on first. Very easy kill onto this Warlock. Kauri has to also watch

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Homi and the techies getting brought down as well. No escape available for him.

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Mira is gonna provide a double kill for GPK.

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Ursa instantly just tipped out. He tipped out bottom without the BKB. He cannot fight. He understands it.

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Hopefully, once he gets the BKB, all memes aside, they will be used offensively and not offensively.

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Because they have to start playing Dota very soon. This lead is just growing and growing.

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also they have an oracle so thanks to the prognosticate they knew exactly when the roshan was going to be available

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already inside the pit roshan will roar but it's a suicidal area to wander into for aurora

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can they at least defend high ground?

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so now it shows the roshan's respawn timer?

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no, not that, okay, not bad

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missed that one of the patch notes

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Well, how's the high ground defense on the side of Aurora?

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It's alright, but it's alright.

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It's not great though.

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The thing is, it's not really about their high ground defense.

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It's about the high ground offense on the other side.

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You're playing into a batch rider.

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This guy is just incredibly strong at going to high ground and defending the high ground.

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If you go high ground, you can lasso targets off of the cliffs.

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And if you're defending, of course, you can lasso them onto the tier fours.

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It's kinda on Miro to play the high ground fight properly.

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with this Haska, but Aurora barely escaped from that engagement.

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Just not a lot of control, right?

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Like that's something that you mentioned early, in the early stages of the game.

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They do have an agonemes now on the Haska, so that's some extra control.

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You are forced to fight him, can't get away.

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And the blink BKB of course on the bat has been completed long time ago.

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Now he has a veil on top, just waiting for the delivery.

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Mars? Don't show, don't show, don't show, don't show!

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He showed! Ah, he showed! He showed!

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Five, he's hot.

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And the difference in network between him and what jumped him is four times almost, so...

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The 13k now. Kiritich also has access to a BKB, building immediately into the nullifier.

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So they're playing hyper aggressively on the side of BedBoom team.

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Does Makoto know?

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Does he need a defensive item?

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I don't know, we don't talk about Makoto.

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Let the boy farm.

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Give him some time.

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We don't talk about Bach here.

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He leamed into a housecar.

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You know, he's got something.

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10K network.

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Alright. It's alright.

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Jump, quick kill, onto the warlock.

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Does that buyback?

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Makoto will be able to get some damage out onto these heroes.

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Blast off.

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away the ages. There was a very good fortunes in which stunned Ursa as well as the Tekkis.

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But the priority is getting the Huskar. They spear back, then connect onto the building

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so the PKB comes out from GPK. Kaori woke up the ultimate, but they're fighting inside

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the Wukals. Come on, Oracle is silent, but it's not going to matter. They've already

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lost the Huskar. Ursa is being zoned back into the fountain. Puck did his best. Dropping

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a Dream Quail now. Will connect on the Huskar, but false promise will be there.

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Saves the whole not dead on the back edge.

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Makoto trying every trick in the book to break the back lines, but the formation of Bed Boom is just way too strong.

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It's way too strong, sure, but they only committed one buyback and that's the Warlock.

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Like, this was a very good hold, I have to say.

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They don't lose the tier 4 just yet, the tier 3 that is.

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They have to deal with the banner though.

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Is this Karthi gonna solo it in the end?

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The Coddy and the Random Melee

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It's scary, they have no vision, it's scary to go and kill the banner as long as no one is showing

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I think the Carti's got it, like 40 more seconds

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Carti just MVP

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When they watch this replay this is gonna feel so bad for them

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One more, she got it

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That's tough guys, that's tough

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But like you said, they hold, they're not gonna lose barracks just yet.

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They're still scared to go on it.

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No one hitting the... I mean, you're playing into a bat, and no one is showing on the map.

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They were playing very carefully, not to show in the lanes at all.

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So, I get the discipline from Aurora, they can't afford to make any mistakes anymore.

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The hold was actually pretty damn good.

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Like, they managed to dodge out a lot of spells.

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I think maybe there was something to be said about the false promise being used way too late.

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Maybe it could have been used in the first life, on the Aegis.

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And then you commit too hard and then after the Aegis there's a BKB from Huskar.

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Aurora, time has been bought. Yes, it's an 18k deficit.

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Yes, you've lost the tier 3 tower, but it's not Rax just yet,

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which is usually what happens on Roche 2 when you're playing against Huskar.

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They have the Basher on the Ursa, no Nira, that's the solo.

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GPK got Kaori as well, a couple of very easy kills, still have buildings though.

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The Tekki hero has a lot of use right, like in the laning stage he's strong, like there's

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There's a lot of active abilities that you benefit from, reactive taser feels broken.

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But Techies actually is a hero that likes to play from being in front, like from having

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an advantage.

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Why?

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Because then you can set up the mines everywhere on the map.

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If you have an advantage, you just move on the map, you set up some perimeters and whatever

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smoke happens, a mine explodes, you know where they're at.

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But when you're losing a game this hard, like you can't even go out to start spamming

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the lines. Looks like the answer for

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Mikoto's game will be A on disc as a way to defend himself.

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Something? It's a pretty good item right now and I do like it. He's playing into

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aggs, the game is very difficult. He's been on point when it comes to dodging

09:21:40.300 --> 09:21:47.580
the lifebreak with all of his spells but one wrong move and you're just gone.

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Speaking of moves, WS, they're coming in towards him but he does vacate the unsafe part of the lane, just trying to get to that BKB.

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He's trying, no blink on him.

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How much of a difference does the BKB have on the Mausmake for the future fights?

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I mean it's pretty big, in the last fight he didn't really manage to use a lot, he just instantly got blown up.

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Oh, Nike blown up again. He's getting jumped upon. He showed in the wave

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Almost carbon copy of the death he suffered in the top lane. GPK beyond God like 14-05 on the Husker

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They're just so good at recognizing which lane will be

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At least there will be an attempt to creep wave skip, right?

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And every time they recognize which way will get attacked they're there

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one bright spot though is I doubt they're gonna try another big move onto the

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high ground until they have that ages so you at least have a minute what can be

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accomplished within that minute first I look at those fire shards we do have

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the aion just complete though at least it looks like it's complete if it

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comes from the courier and indeed it is so they're finishing a lot of

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fighting in that one minute at least, Basher, Ursa. Ain't much, but it's honest work. And

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this puck.

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What does Gaiman have to say? Gaiman says 90, 10 or 89, 11. Do you agree with that?

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I think that's a fair assessment.

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I don't know man. I was gonna say 95 or something but...

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Huskar is a weird hero, like it's one of those that can fall off a cliff very quickly if you find a couple of right fights

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The thing is, I don't think this game is necessarily about the Huskar anymore, it's about this guy

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He's also farming, he's also getting there, like we have neglected him, but he almost has a butterfly

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He's gonna smoke with his squad, at the same time the Aurora, they finally feel ready, they have a DKB on the mall, so this is gonna be their go time

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Asgard is going to be the first one out the gate through middle. They know for a fact that Kataromi is just waiting behind him with the first promise.

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So they'll spear him back, but there's the last one. He did the ulti WS, there's not going to be a follow-up arena.

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He goes down in the blink of an eye. GPK able to get off the BKB, looking towards Nightfall.

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But Nightfall pulls the Nightfall, gets out safely. Nobody else has that luxury though.

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the drop shooter to kill Kairuri, 3 heroes dead, Roshan they know it's up in 90 seconds

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but they may be hunting on the Makoto, this is a big deal if they can catch a beautiful

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bush rack, Aeondas will be triggered and he drops a dreamquail behind him to ensure

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his escape.

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Haskar is pushing high ground, he doesn't care, he's got satanic, they even fortified

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the wave by the way to get here so that Pak couldn't creep skip so that the creeps

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do not die immediately at least. That fight, for them to go their way, they needed to find

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Oracle and to instantly eliminate her silencer. And they just didn't do it on time. Huck was

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on him, but just a second too late. First lane of barracks will fall on the top side

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of the map. We know that the Rosh is up in a minute, so no need to force the issue.

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has respawned on Aurora. And the speed at which Miro just targeted the WS mods. He's

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like, just deal with that guy. And it makes sense, right? If he gets off a good arena,

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maybe there's enough separation that they can try to do something, you know, Oracle

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will be too far away, but WS is completely chain disabled. Maybe, if this was the old

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patch where you have no vision in the arena, but the current state, Alaphire,

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into the nullifier, into the lasso. He doesn't have buyback! Do they even need the Aegis with the pot, doesn't have buyback?

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They still can go. I would argue they don't need the Aegis even if he has the buyback, but it's still safer to go into the pit first.

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They know where it will respawn, they know where the runes are as well of course.

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Of course, Monkey is still hunting by the way, they don't really need all heroes in

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the pit, this game is absolutely free for bad boy.

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I think if you brought all 5 heroes from Aurora here in the pit and just fought these three,

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you probably wouldn't be able to kill them.

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Everyone is just disappearing.

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Literally just one shot boundless strike.

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My god, Techies down for the count.

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Mars he's trying to do the collapse and fortunately he gets found out here Miro doesn't have lasso anymore

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Did use it earlier to kill off the puck, but he's getting in in three seconds nuts too long the TP will come first

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I was planning to do the collapse, but he did the nightfall in the end

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Aegis cheese refresh a shot

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Who do you give the shot to you just keep it on the house car

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You don't really need it on the Huskar.

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I think the Shard is better even on Monkey for the double arena.

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You can give it to Oracle for the double ult.

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You can give it to Bat even for the double last.

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I think anyone uses it better than the Huskar.

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The only question is like, which one?

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Which one ulti do you like the most?

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on the hands of Kiritage at the moment. So for now it's going to be the double Wukong's

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command for the push, right? Yeah. Makes sense.

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Alright, this... you know sometimes you see these games where you know that if a team

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fails and a citizen fights, that the game just ends. This is it from Aurora.

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This is the smoke, yeah. This is that Hail Mary smoke.

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They're going to need all hopes and prayers.

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This is part of the problem of being this far behind, you never get the positive vision you need to find these heroes in the back line.

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Now there's the banner.

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Okay.

09:27:51.540 --> 09:27:53.040
How will they hold this?

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Go to buy some time, Lightfall is gonna try to jump immediately onto Oracle.

09:27:56.040 --> 09:27:58.540
That's not as to burst through Kataomi, who buys back instantly.

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Now GPK with his BKB going back in towards Nightfall.

09:28:02.040 --> 09:28:05.540
Kaori trying to create some space with the chaotic offering but it's not enough.

09:28:05.540 --> 09:28:08.040
Orisa is gonna die without buyback.

09:28:08.040 --> 09:28:10.540
Kataomi already back into the fray.

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So even if they kill this GPK Oscar once will never be able to do it twice

09:28:17.140 --> 09:28:24.020
Second lane of racks being taken Mira found again within the trees does managed to get away for a moment dodging the boundless right from Kiddich

09:28:24.460 --> 09:28:26.300
Which rock will be there?

09:28:26.300 --> 09:28:31.420
Humorangs out as well. He might actually burn out barely gets back into the fountain. Mikoto

09:28:31.940 --> 09:28:38.060
Trying to do what he can to slow down big boom team, but they do not care about anything as long as nightfall is dead

09:28:38.060 --> 09:28:40.760
there's nothing to really threaten GPK or Kiritich.

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Nira jumps in and gets sent out in a blink of an eye.

09:28:46.060 --> 09:28:48.060
GG, well played, is called.

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That boom of the back of the GPK Huskar

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burned through everything Aurora had to offer.

09:28:55.560 --> 09:28:59.560
These last two games lasted as much as our first game of the series.

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Unfortunately for Aurora, they didn't find the right recipe to deal with the Huskar.

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This was one of those Huskar games that we were seeing in the last patch

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where it just completely catches you off-guard and it's like from from 0 to 100

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like from minute 0 to the last minute Huskar is just dominating the match.

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Huskar doing it for Batboom team and they have earned a spot in the grand finals.

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Shiva break down how they got into the end of the last tournament.

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They needed to set a fast pace and they did so and they never let go, Tegov.

09:29:37.000 --> 09:29:40.960
Yeah, from the draft, you know the lanes are meant to go well.

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The baron lane didn't go as well maybe they expected, but the Huskar, the monkey king,

09:29:44.920 --> 09:29:48.400
they had the farm, they had the fight, they had the aggression, and their GPK ended

09:29:48.400 --> 09:29:52.840
the game, 15-0-9, they had a save popping off on his headwind, they just crushed

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game three.

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Yeah, he was ready.

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ready with that little bullet sniping them left and right.

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Robin Hoodwink right there.

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He was ready to get the kills.

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And this is also one of his better heroes.

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I gotta say, I wasn't really feeling the techies pick at all.

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I felt like he had no purpose whatsoever in the game.

09:30:12.940 --> 09:30:15.540
He was just on kind of his own island

09:30:15.540 --> 09:30:16.800
trying to make something happen.

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But it didn't feel like they didn't have enough damage

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in a lot of these engagements as well.

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and also didn't help Puck in any way in the mid lane.

09:30:25.200 --> 09:30:27.760
We had a couple of suggestions, maybe like a dual lane,

09:30:27.760 --> 09:30:29.280
maybe Marcy to use the courier

09:30:29.280 --> 09:30:31.400
to try to manipulate the creep wave.

09:30:31.400 --> 09:30:34.120
Mikoto was on his own against Khauskar, wave number one.

09:30:34.120 --> 09:30:36.160
He did fine, killed all four CS,

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and then it was just a disaster as it should be.

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I mean, it's one of those games where it's like,

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Aurora in the past have been able to pick Puck like this

09:30:43.320 --> 09:30:44.920
and teams just haven't really found a way

09:30:44.920 --> 09:30:46.240
to like have to shut it down.

09:30:46.240 --> 09:30:48.200
And here, BB, being a Puck team,

09:30:48.200 --> 09:30:49.880
they have decided on aggression,

09:30:49.880 --> 09:30:54.400
They have the sustainability to deal with the puck timings and also in the house got to obliterate the lane

09:30:54.400 --> 09:30:55.900
Like if you play the side lanes

09:30:55.900 --> 09:30:59.600
Puck will be on the back foot against us got like you need to go into the lane

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So I think just the draft and early lane in set up just pretty much put a roar in like

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Insane comeback from like minute five. We thought like they really had to play like the best game of their life

09:31:11.200 --> 09:31:12.760
To feel like they could take this one

09:31:12.760 --> 09:31:13.160
Yeah

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And something we talked about like after seeing the draft is whoever gets the hands on first Roshan

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It's gonna be pretty much dictating the tempo of the game. They kill it at 14 minutes for the next 10 minutes

09:31:23.480 --> 09:31:28.080
They get like 10 to 15 K gold lead. They killed second Roshan and with the second one

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They're ready to go for the high ground and close it out. This game wasn't close in any way

09:31:33.380 --> 09:31:39.140
They just couldn't really play Dota. It is one of those you got husk are the which is something that they need to start

09:31:39.140 --> 09:31:43.700
Thinking about coming into their series tomorrow because they love to open up with puck

09:31:43.700 --> 09:31:48.300
They also love to open up with Buck in the second phase as well, but yeah

09:31:48.300 --> 09:31:52.760
This is still a very good hero or they need to find a way how to deal with this hot scar if it comes out as a

09:31:53.300 --> 09:31:58.660
Response to it. Maybe getting the hands on the hood wing themselves earlier on you'd think so, but this

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This was just it was just very dominating on the side of that room

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So I think it's it is safe to say that the stronger team made it to the grand finals tomorrow

09:32:07.940 --> 09:32:13.220
Standout player of course is gonna be GP K not dying on the hot scar got himself handed

09:32:13.220 --> 09:32:17.520
a great game for the hero and he did not drop the ball.

09:32:17.520 --> 09:32:23.020
No, yeah exactly. I think even in 7.41 versions of Hasco, they are getting like one or two deaths

09:32:23.020 --> 09:32:25.500
in the early game because of the lack of culturaries.

09:32:25.500 --> 09:32:29.840
Yeah. But because of how the game went, like he never died. Like I feel like in this iteration

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that you have to kill him, even if it's like one cheap support TP, get a kill, delay

09:32:34.300 --> 09:32:38.020
his arm, like one minute, you have to do something. But you can't have a game

09:32:38.020 --> 09:32:40.220
like this where it's just complete freedom.

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Gpk can yeah, yeah, I know can I want to talk also about the monkey king

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That was the first pick on the side of of bedroom second pick overall and and caretich

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I think he did there was an argument for who's the best carry that night for the caretiches event

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I think the argument is set

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Our might need to wait until tomorrow like PO5

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Decide who is the best one, but yeah, because I mean nightfall had a very good game in this second game game one

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He flopped a little bit but Kiritich is a beast of a player like really surprised that this guy wasn't picked up even earlier in his career

09:33:16.560 --> 09:33:19.540
By like a big-name team. Yeah, and he found his spot now

09:33:19.540 --> 09:33:25.440
And he seems to be fitting a right in and we're gonna hear from him because he is the one who's setting ready for his winners interview with slacks

09:33:27.140 --> 09:33:33.600
Absolutely my friend. We have kids rich right here my friend. Welcome. Congratulations. I'll make it to the grand finals

09:33:33.600 --> 09:33:35.600
Yeah!

09:33:35.600 --> 09:33:37.600
Oh, shit, ow!

09:33:37.600 --> 09:33:42.600
Felt pretty good after that series, although we have to discuss this as men, as gentlemen.

09:33:42.600 --> 09:33:45.600
You gotta admit you didn't really do anything that series.

09:33:45.600 --> 09:33:47.600
I mean, the face is void.

09:33:47.600 --> 09:33:51.600
What can you do? The Monkey King last game is mostly a save GPK.

09:33:51.600 --> 09:33:56.600
Isn't that what a carry wants is, you know, everyone else to just give them a free game?

09:33:56.600 --> 09:33:58.600
Is that how you felt after that?

09:33:58.600 --> 09:34:00.600
Like people binding my heroes.

09:34:00.600 --> 09:34:07.100
In the first game, it's very important, so I can't reinstall this game, so JPK have carte blanche.

09:34:07.100 --> 09:34:15.100
And we have Oracle on lane, so we have very weak lane, it's a bit sad, but in game Oracle is perfect here.

09:34:15.100 --> 09:34:22.100
Just perfect hit, but lane is a bit, not a bit, just very suck, suck a bit dick, but it's okay, it's live, it's live.

09:34:22.100 --> 09:34:27.100
Who hasn't been there? That's live, baby. Well, you can't let me get away with that, you did a lot, that was joking.

09:34:27.100 --> 09:34:32.020
And obviously it was a team effort, although we saw some flashy plays, quite a crazy series

09:34:32.020 --> 09:34:33.700
for you after all.

09:34:33.700 --> 09:34:36.620
Was there a highlight for you in between all three of the games?

09:34:36.620 --> 09:34:42.860
I think first game, 19 minutes, it's very fun to play this because we were improved

09:34:42.860 --> 09:34:51.100
after a liquid game for the final also, like for a game we play around 4 hours or

09:34:51.100 --> 09:34:52.980
how much I don't remember.

09:34:52.980 --> 09:34:58.980
But it's very fun, we got very good conclusions, and we know how we're gonna play in super late game.

09:34:58.980 --> 09:35:01.980
That's why we were strong in this stage.

09:35:01.980 --> 09:35:06.980
Absolutely, and I did want to talk to you about the Faces Void game, even though it was the sus one.

09:35:06.980 --> 09:35:10.980
When you got that picked, you were laughing, you were smiling, what was going on in that booth,

09:35:10.980 --> 09:35:13.980
why were you so excited for that one, even though it didn't work out?

09:35:13.980 --> 09:35:17.980
Just saying, guys, maybe we just pick Spectre. I'm by Spectre in the role.

09:35:17.980 --> 09:35:26.300
My unique heroes, just for jokes and say this, the people, specter, what, what, what, just wait.

09:35:26.300 --> 09:35:32.060
And I pick Void, we're very confident this hero, but I think I have Unreal trash game.

09:35:32.060 --> 09:35:36.860
I mean, it's not about game, it's about my build also. I think BattleFury is very strong

09:35:36.860 --> 09:35:41.180
because this hero can buy but Fury, Montage, Shard, Axe, and you can poke and fight,

09:35:41.180 --> 09:35:44.860
you cannot die, you just poke, poke, poke, you can fight every time without cooldowns,

09:35:44.860 --> 09:35:52.080
without Corona, but this game I have bad lane, enemy have unreal burst damage with Tiny and

09:35:52.080 --> 09:35:57.120
Void Spirit Axe, so if I buy I think Dome in millionaire like Nightfall, I think we're

09:35:57.120 --> 09:36:01.580
gonna win this game because we have very good game on Bristleback and we can easily win

09:36:01.580 --> 09:36:02.580
in late game.

09:36:02.580 --> 09:36:04.640
Absolutely, it was a team effort, so congratulations.

09:36:04.640 --> 09:36:08.520
Now you are in the Grand Finals, in my big list of interview questions that I have to

09:36:08.520 --> 09:36:12.940
ask before Grand Finals, there's typically one, who do you think you're gonna face

09:36:12.940 --> 09:36:13.940
off against?

09:36:13.940 --> 09:36:15.600
I got a twist on that for you.

09:36:15.600 --> 09:36:17.380
Who shouldn't show up?

09:36:17.380 --> 09:36:20.160
Which one of these remaining teams, if they're smart,

09:36:20.160 --> 09:36:22.860
will just lose now before you have to have this guy

09:36:22.860 --> 09:36:23.940
kick your ass?

09:36:23.940 --> 09:36:25.740
Who do you not want to see there?

09:36:27.180 --> 09:36:28.260
Mm.

09:36:28.260 --> 09:36:29.100
Falcons.

09:36:29.100 --> 09:36:30.700
Falcons, Falcons.

09:36:30.700 --> 09:36:32.180
Lay down now, baby.

09:36:32.180 --> 09:36:33.460
I've got some news right.

09:36:33.460 --> 09:36:34.300
You know what?

09:36:34.300 --> 09:36:35.140
Come in here.

09:36:35.140 --> 09:36:35.980
Respond to that.

09:36:35.980 --> 09:36:36.900
Respond to that, my friend.

09:36:36.900 --> 09:36:37.980
There we go.

09:36:37.980 --> 09:36:39.220
And a response here.

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Will we be seeing him in the grand finals?

09:36:41.700 --> 09:36:42.740
We'll see you after this one.

09:36:42.740 --> 09:36:48.820
Yeah, that is how tournaments work. Thank you guys so much. All right, we will see after this one

09:36:48.820 --> 09:36:52.080
Who is gonna meet these guys in the grand finals? Let's find out now

09:36:53.660 --> 09:36:57.680
That was very wholesome I can't stay away by grating to you with caretakers

09:36:57.680 --> 09:37:02.840
Of course they're very happy making it to the grand finals and humble for Meryl Rain that he's like him

09:37:02.840 --> 09:37:07.300
We'll see we'll see we will see very soon many final thoughts on the series. We just watched he

09:37:07.300 --> 09:37:11.980
just a very scary I think for BB they are the early game team if you give them a

09:37:11.980 --> 09:37:15.460
little bit of an advantage they're gonna run away with it so any team who makes

09:37:15.460 --> 09:37:19.240
it to the grand finals is it Falcons or the other two available respect the

09:37:19.240 --> 09:37:23.040
early game they are full very very good yeah gotta figure it out they look

09:37:23.040 --> 09:37:26.540
like the best team after the group stage and they haven't changed so

09:37:26.540 --> 09:37:29.620
whoever's gonna be facing them they need to bring their a game because this

09:37:29.620 --> 09:37:33.020
is a very difficult team to beat even like take the game off of them yep

09:37:33.020 --> 09:37:36.420
and Aurora, of course, they drop to the lower bracket.

09:37:36.420 --> 09:37:39.480
They'll play again tomorrow, and they will have an opponent,

09:37:39.480 --> 09:37:41.380
but their opponent is not yet known.

09:37:41.380 --> 09:37:44.420
For that, one more series needs to be played,

09:37:44.420 --> 09:37:46.340
and that is coming your way after break.

09:37:46.340 --> 09:37:48.020
It's Liquid versus Falcons.

09:38:18.020 --> 09:38:47.700
The human body was built to move, not trapped to death in one singular posture for 12 hours

09:38:47.700 --> 09:38:49.700
of day.

09:38:49.700 --> 09:38:53.700
It's time your chair evolved.

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This is Secret Lab Typen Evo.

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Ergonomically engineered for youth, gamers, hybrid workers,

09:39:02.700 --> 09:39:06.700
artists, and many of every move.

09:39:06.700 --> 09:39:13.700
of the day, Falcons versus

09:39:13.700 --> 09:39:15.700
Liquid. Both teams have already

09:39:15.700 --> 09:39:17.700
played today and they made it

09:39:17.700 --> 09:39:19.700
through the upper or lower

09:39:19.700 --> 09:39:20.700
bracket rather and they're now

09:39:20.700 --> 09:39:22.700
here and one of them will move

09:39:22.700 --> 09:39:24.700
on and the other one will not

09:39:24.700 --> 09:39:27.700
and that's right. Leaves behind

09:39:27.700 --> 09:39:30.700
third fourth place. That's

09:39:30.700 --> 09:39:36.140
will not and that's right leaves behind third fourth place that's what it's not

09:39:36.140 --> 09:39:39.580
just have to think about how many teams are still left in the tournament for for

09:39:39.580 --> 09:39:45.380
now we want to dive right into it this is a rematch already as well and as said

09:39:45.380 --> 09:39:52.140
TGov these two teams they have played each other already and I want to know

09:39:52.140 --> 09:39:54.780
why this gonna be different it's gonna be different because as soon as

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Falcons got dropped to the lower bracket I feel like Amar stepped up

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He kind of found himself, you know what what I can do. He had to tie in the bristle going into the liquid series

09:40:04.980 --> 09:40:07.900
And since then he's like I'm gonna play dooms. I'm gonna play Viper's

09:40:07.900 --> 09:40:12.640
I'm gonna find new heroes and against spirit and P vision. I think Falcons have just looked pretty clean

09:40:13.240 --> 09:40:19.220
They did they also have to figure it out in this year because they haven't managed to beat team liquid yet

09:40:19.220 --> 09:40:25.300
They managed to take two games off of them during the blast slam five in that five game serious

09:40:25.300 --> 09:40:27.740
which wasn't Grand Finals, but it was the format.

09:40:27.740 --> 09:40:33.660
So it seems like Team Liquid are just playing a bit of a, I would say, faster Dota.

09:40:33.660 --> 09:40:38.100
There was a statistic prior to this event that did say that Amar,

09:40:38.100 --> 09:40:44.960
he is pretty much the only guy who's the more farm than his own carry at 10 minutes.

09:40:44.960 --> 09:40:49.380
And he's the one who is the driving force skater.

09:40:49.380 --> 09:40:51.540
He's playing a bit of a different heroes as well.

09:40:51.540 --> 09:40:53.260
He's banging out Loan Druid.

09:40:53.260 --> 09:40:55.820
He didn't try to play Kaz in this one.

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On the other side, you have Mickey,

09:40:57.020 --> 09:40:58.820
who loves to play Kaz as well.

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So we'll see maybe if he wants to add that to his build,

09:41:03.020 --> 09:41:04.700
or just a hero pool in general,

09:41:04.700 --> 09:41:08.180
or if he's gonna be sticking with more of a standard stuff.

09:41:08.180 --> 09:41:10.300
Well, you did mention Amar in that.

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Yes.

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And we did do a little bit of a deep dive, I'd say,

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in a series that he played earlier.

09:41:16.100 --> 09:41:17.500
Yeah, we're just,

09:41:17.500 --> 09:41:19.500
when I woke up this morning, I'm watching the game

09:41:19.500 --> 09:41:21.300
and I'm like, damn, Amar's got some moves

09:41:21.300 --> 09:41:22.140
on the high ground, you know?

09:41:22.140 --> 09:41:25.500
like sure that the 14,000 goalie than they just but I just felt like the

09:41:25.500 --> 09:41:29.580
confidence that Falcon's had is what you want to see in any future series in

09:41:29.580 --> 09:41:32.540
this tournament from him like he's by himself up into higher ground look at

09:41:32.540 --> 09:41:35.460
his team positioning behind him throwing some spells for that over

09:41:35.460 --> 09:41:39.580
committing he's man to dodging some spells hiding back like everything he's

09:41:39.580 --> 09:41:42.780
doing is just like toying with p-vision it's like look at me I'm a

09:41:42.780 --> 09:41:46.540
motherfucker you can't deal with me and when he has that energy you know

09:41:46.540 --> 09:41:49.780
they're very scary team and he did it once when you fast forward again in

09:41:49.780 --> 09:41:54.420
the clip like he'll do it again like it is the fact that you know on the doom and

09:41:54.420 --> 09:41:58.500
the Viper in this low bracket run he's able to just replicate such a or around

09:41:58.500 --> 09:42:02.220
him and I'm looking at liquid to shut him down as early as possible like don't

09:42:02.220 --> 09:42:05.900
allow him to man to dodge and do all the shenanigans that he was doing in

09:42:05.900 --> 09:42:09.260
this game. He made Viper look flashy. Yeah.

09:42:09.260 --> 09:42:13.980
Which is really hard to do. Yeah exactly. Looked like a hero who can actually like make some moves.

09:42:13.980 --> 09:42:19.540
Yeah. The hero is just sitting there dying winning the lane and then losing the game this is how

09:42:19.540 --> 09:42:23.540
with when to do the history, but the very nice moves and he also got acts for free, which

09:42:23.540 --> 09:42:26.240
does help him farm does help him have that maneuverability.

09:42:26.240 --> 09:42:31.840
A little bit of an extra bit of a hell is from Skeeter, but Falcons, they don't always

09:42:31.840 --> 09:42:35.840
win when they have an alchemist. I believe La Cossa, if you were to look at the previous

09:42:35.840 --> 09:42:39.240
drafts that they played against Liquid, I chose that.

09:42:39.240 --> 09:42:43.540
Yeah, it definitely does in that game with laundry, which was a bit of a longer

09:42:43.540 --> 09:42:52.340
game as well. They got sniped. They were winning that game in terms of like net worth 10-15ish

09:42:53.220 --> 09:42:58.580
K up but it seems like the team liquid they were always ahead in terms of how they want to execute.

09:42:58.580 --> 09:43:03.060
That game was very long. It did allow them to like get the pick offs, play with the loan

09:43:03.060 --> 09:43:07.300
druid on the side with the agatom receptor and shadow blade. So they could get the kills no

09:43:07.300 --> 09:43:11.940
matter what the storm spirit that fiends gate coming up from under board. So having a bit of a

09:43:11.940 --> 09:43:18.260
a global presence as well. And then in that second game, they just got, I would say, completely

09:43:18.260 --> 09:43:23.060
dismantled. We saw like Mickey popping off as well, the comms. Everything was on point.

09:43:23.060 --> 09:43:25.260
Yeah, I think a lot of people will remember that.

09:43:25.260 --> 09:43:26.260
Yeah.

09:43:26.260 --> 09:43:30.380
And it's also in the second game, it's not like Skinner randomly playing a Monkey King.

09:43:30.380 --> 09:43:34.340
I believe he hadn't played it before since like 2024 or something. It was even, he's

09:43:34.340 --> 09:43:38.500
like a couple of years. Like everything just felt wrong compared to game one where

09:43:38.500 --> 09:43:44.300
It was like they're trying to put the monkey to the laundry and like they got this draft idea it came to was just just a loss from them

09:43:44.300 --> 09:43:46.300
I think they just did not have an identity

09:43:46.300 --> 09:43:50.800
Yeah, that's why I mentioned the heroes that he has been playing like he started to play laundry

09:43:50.800 --> 09:43:53.440
It he doesn't really play kez has a couple of games

09:43:53.440 --> 09:43:57.500
I believe but it wasn't it like so he needs to find his groove as well

09:43:57.500 --> 09:44:02.460
Yeah, you know what the group is of the Maminger screen. He has a very clear groove

09:44:03.260 --> 09:44:05.820
Groove with Rubik and Hootman. Yeah

09:44:05.820 --> 09:44:10.060
The stats are just insane on how Falcons are playing like

09:44:10.860 --> 09:44:15.500
Hoodwink always was their hero probably always will be but they're adding rubik on top of that

09:44:16.060 --> 09:44:20.140
Because hoodwink or rubik haven't picked in 14 out of 16 games only two games

09:44:20.140 --> 09:44:22.620
They didn't have that and in those 16 games

09:44:22.700 --> 09:44:27.580
They pick one of those two heroes straight out of the phase in the second one immediately

09:44:27.980 --> 09:44:32.140
Locking it in and knowing that they can actually have a good laning stage

09:44:32.140 --> 09:44:36.400
I think just in general the offlaners love to play with them because it

09:44:36.700 --> 09:44:41.020
Simplifies the game and makes the game very easy. They're very good at stacking. They're very good at fighting

09:44:41.260 --> 09:44:45.280
Damage scaling pretty much you have everything that is the question for of course

09:44:45.280 --> 09:44:49.720
No liquid and the draft right when they look at it and they see create of course going towards a couple heroes

09:44:49.720 --> 09:44:55.780
I mean like when falcons are in form create has like two to three heroes will always play and then a mile has that kind of

09:44:55.780 --> 09:44:59.020
Or around him. That's exactly what's happening right now in this lower bracket run

09:44:59.020 --> 09:45:05.020
So for Liquid are they going to take away the Rubik, are they banning the Hoodwink, are they forcing Crypt to go for an old-school ringmaster

09:45:05.020 --> 09:45:10.020
something that we haven't seen, the Shaman, the clock that hasn't been so important to the other two heroes?

09:45:10.020 --> 09:45:14.020
I think there is a clear drafting choice that Liquid can make against Falcons.

09:45:15.020 --> 09:45:23.020
If we have the offline duo of Falcons being so dominant and strong and basically being Falcons' secret sauce right now,

09:45:23.020 --> 09:45:27.580
right now. I mean not so secret, but fucking sauce. What's the sauce of Team Liquid? Where

09:45:27.580 --> 09:45:30.380
would you put that same kind of vibe?

09:45:30.380 --> 09:45:34.180
I feel like it's less about a single lane and more about the freedom of all players. I

09:45:34.180 --> 09:45:38.620
think a lot of the moves earlier today, even when they were under pressure of South American

09:45:38.620 --> 09:45:43.700
rejects, it's the fact that they would try to get back into the game through just like

09:45:43.700 --> 09:45:47.780
a team move, a big fight, like a seven minute rotation where you bring four heroes.

09:45:47.780 --> 09:45:51.580
They're not afraid just to go make things happen on the map. There are a couple

09:45:51.580 --> 09:45:58.740
team comes consistently where it's like it's GG guys it's over it's not so maybe

09:45:58.740 --> 09:46:01.620
gonna work on the coms a little bit but no I feel like they just have that

09:46:01.620 --> 09:46:05.740
tenacity compared to other teams where even when things are bad they will just

09:46:05.740 --> 09:46:10.020
throw bodies into the into the fight and the coms are such a good addition

09:46:10.020 --> 09:46:14.940
because we we heard them like oh I messed up like guys I miss I misused the

09:46:14.940 --> 09:46:19.460
windrun earlier today yesterday I accidentally click the BKB and there's

09:46:19.460 --> 09:46:25.140
like a deep sigh and then everybody else trying to like pick it up, Eki, like he does talk a lot,

09:46:25.140 --> 09:46:31.780
he's very vocal about things, he's like pinging a lot as well, but in gameplay you really don't

09:46:31.780 --> 09:46:36.660
feel it, like you feel it's been pretty crisp from side of Team Liquid, the drafts have been good

09:46:36.660 --> 09:46:42.660
and yeah, wanna see what kind of opening they're gonna be having, they did remove Windranger on

09:46:42.660 --> 09:46:48.900
liquid which does leave, it should leave one of the other suspects in the pool.

09:46:48.900 --> 09:46:51.060
Yeah, usually this one doesn't get...

09:46:51.060 --> 09:46:53.740
Yeah, like Rubik, or Pango, yeah, that's the one.

09:46:53.740 --> 09:47:01.100
Pango is the call here for Team Liquid.

09:47:01.100 --> 09:47:02.420
So where are you going with this?

09:47:02.420 --> 09:47:05.460
If you're Falcons, do you just go for the Hoot Wink here?

09:47:05.460 --> 09:47:08.380
Like we've seen so many people do at this point in the draft.

09:47:08.380 --> 09:47:14.380
There's the cop, the rubik, the hoodwink. Any hero that you've mentioned probably will look fine.

09:47:14.380 --> 09:47:16.380
Or the time.

09:47:16.380 --> 09:47:20.380
It's the second phase, man. 12 out of 16 times.

09:47:20.380 --> 09:47:22.380
That's 13 slots. There it is.

09:47:22.380 --> 09:47:24.380
That looks very good.

09:47:24.380 --> 09:47:28.380
Come on, in liquid just bands Rubik and Hoodwink here then.

09:47:28.380 --> 09:47:30.380
They could. Was it GG then?

09:47:30.380 --> 09:47:34.380
I mean, Krebs played literally four different heroes.

09:47:34.380 --> 09:47:41.060
12 out of 14 out of 16 total were hoodwink or rubik and then he played one game of shaman and one game of blockwork

09:47:41.100 --> 09:47:46.120
One thing we have to note as well with falcons is when they were in their prime for drafting and play

09:47:46.260 --> 09:47:52.100
It's when like DK and here was a skitter could just casually pick in a draft and then it'd be like DK plus hoodwink

09:47:52.100 --> 09:47:56.740
Right the DK ringmaster and it's like, oh god we're playing against this like map plays skirmish again

09:47:56.740 --> 09:48:02.040
Me more a mug it's a later pick in the draft where he can take over with a farm by the radiance on the doom

09:48:02.040 --> 09:48:06.760
do whatever. So if Tiny is that replacement hero, it worked out right against P-Vision

09:48:06.760 --> 09:48:10.160
earlier today. They first picked a Tiny and then suddenly later on in the draft you get

09:48:10.160 --> 09:48:14.240
this really important hero. So it's not like a shock that Falcons are doing this. They've

09:48:14.240 --> 09:48:18.800
clearly promoted Tiny. They don't want to put Skidder on like a random Weaver Monkey

09:48:18.800 --> 09:48:24.000
King later on. Like they just want that simplicity of draft. But Liquid, they don't

09:48:24.000 --> 09:48:27.960
care about the inevitable 13 pick as they are still respecting them all with the

09:48:27.960 --> 09:48:33.920
the titan to ban. Yeah they could also maybe leave both in the pool and ban

09:48:33.920 --> 09:48:38.760
something that is because they have only one ban on 12 they could maybe remove

09:48:38.760 --> 09:48:45.200
something that is good against Tiny. I also want to see if they maybe like we've

09:48:45.200 --> 09:48:48.480
seen a couple of these mid-tiny's but I don't want to see this hero being flexed

09:48:48.480 --> 09:48:53.120
I just feel like that that's not it it's not the sauce. Would you say at least

09:48:53.120 --> 09:48:56.880
for Falcons on 13 that between the Rubik and the Hedwig right Rubik has

09:48:56.880 --> 09:49:01.040
high priority? I would say so. Because of stealing Abilance and just making the

09:49:01.040 --> 09:49:06.000
the fight a bit more annoying? For Liquid? Yeah. For Falcons to take it themselves?

09:49:06.000 --> 09:49:08.560
Yeah.

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Okay. But they could also ban one of them and then remove one? No.

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Do you think there's a more important ban to protect the Tiny?

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I feel like the way that Falcons drafts, they aren't as reactionary to the

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Tiny as other teams. Oh okay, they take the ban.

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Yeah, because there's no way Liquid's gonna pick both Hootwink and Adolphe.

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Liquid could take Rubik plus Underlord as well for themselves, which is percentage-based damage.

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It's cheap lockdown.

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We saw Tiny's having 5,000 HPs in the later portions of the game.

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Having percentage-based damage could be really good, but this also shows immediately that

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your pango is gonna go to the mid lane, which they have done before.

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It's not like they're showing that they are using it as a flex, but Amar so far didn't

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play it.

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And if we go back to previous Dream League, we had an interview with Amar when he said

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that at the time he didn't really like the hero.

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The hero got buffed in the meantime, but he said, you know, it's pretty much a dead

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hero.

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Now it's a very good hero, but I feel like he might be wanting to play it exclusively

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from the mid lane.

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And even with the Queen of Pain ban, right, it's like, surely Bat could just become

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the mid laner for Falcons.

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If you respect Liquid and the type of aggression that we see from them, holding the support

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picked is important because to stop an aggressive team, you want to have the better support

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duo to make the earlier moves to set the pace of the game to kind of unlock the farm

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for your cause.

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So, you know, I could see Maureen just wanting to give me the bat mid, I'll play into the

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pango.

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We've got a 30 on bat, I believe as well.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And then Tiny just will carry.

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Happy days.

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And Liquid, they're still going to be happy.

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We already spoke about Rubik to great lengths, it can still Tiny spells, Ping

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what it's done in the meta. Ace, Nisha of course both very good on the hero.

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Yeah they're taking their time thinking about what to pair up to with the Rubik

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down the road. It's a solid pick. There are already quite a few awful

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laners removed from the pool so oh they do want balls! That's really funny actually.

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You're not having either Falcons. That's a good move.

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I mean, they respect the stats.

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Also, weird sound, crazy. If we keep talking about it, and then both teams ignored it fully, we'd also go kind of, you know...

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Yeah, and they both can play both as well, so...

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Yep, Ekki has played both of these heroes, of course, until if you...

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I feel like Rubik probably will just be the 5th in this scenario.

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Hoodwink, you want to be running around them up, setting up kills?

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It's the old Liquid vibes in Senia. He was playing Rubik when nobody else wanted to touch the hero.

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Now that Hero has been buffed, it does feel like a much better overall laner, because it's just throughout the game reducing both spell and physical damage feels nice.

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I mean, for snaking now, it's like you've got Enchantress for strong laning, you've got like Murana for the map play.

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When Liquid is looking for pick offs in this aggression, you throw a little bit of invisibility into the mix.

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You can kind of dodge a couple of these ganks, plenty of lockdown to set up the spells.

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This is why Falcons have held their supports longer in the draft because now they can read the liquid game plan and decide at what time they want to try and fight into it.

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We see a lot of people picking Grimstroke against the pango. Is that a hero that Falcons also goes to?

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It would be good. Do you have two heroes that love the run-in? Utilize that Ink Swirl, Double Lasso feels nice. Just keep them in place and also...

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No, it's just silence.

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I mean, we've seen it too many times.

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Maybe at the start of the tournament, like day 4 was like very hype,

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and then people figured out, like with the build and everything,

09:52:49.300 --> 09:52:53.300
you just go for refresh, you're having GPM and champion, it does feel easily doable,

09:52:53.300 --> 09:52:57.300
having double global silence and there's no refresh on BKBs anymore,

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so that cripples pretty much every single core on the other team.

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So they still have to figure out.

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Give one more pick. It's gonna be clockwork

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so it's gonna be the

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core back riding at least in in that regard and

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It is gonna be just two anti-fun supports, right?

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Like when they're when the fight is appearing there's gonna be a cogs to maybe block a rolling funder or just to get onto the background global as

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Well, the cost loves it clearly as a core player. Just yeah thought to shut up

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No, it's the silencer that says shut up. He's

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He's the one saying no spells allowed

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At least the clockwork is also one that can go in. So it's not just anti fun. He can create fun as well. He can I mean

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Poco 19 is anti fun. No, it is it is

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They have some good answers like even the cogs pushback

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Which was like not a thing in the previous patches with the facets for a long time

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It is doable again once you initiate with the hook shot followed up by a cogs pushback global silence

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Even like any spell from tiny is gonna feel nice against buck same goes for pango

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He really likes to play into these cheaper spells that doesn't really give you like

09:54:10.320 --> 09:54:16.000
Constant interrupt on his spells not something that he likes to play and this is also here that doesn't really build

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Into the spell like it's not like he's going for you'll which is it outdated build

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It's not like he's like his shard needs to come out quickly in this one

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He's also like not the biggest fan of lotus. We'll see so in the end

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It is an off-lane pango so a bit of a different one, but again not an easy lane for him by any means I would say

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There's gonna be an interesting conclusion to the draft more towards like what a mark and play right?

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It's the other heroes still left in the pool don't really provide the lockdown for a puck if he wants to get really creative

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Then maybe he can find some some niche picks, but already the night stock is getting banned out

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That's a good ban a hero that he's not played yet in the tournament

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But I think other players have shown case, you know,

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NiteStalker is still viable, can counter the puck heavily.

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At least in the draft that you see right now,

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it's like, if Nisha has a quiet game,

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Falcons have the tools to get online

09:55:07.200 --> 09:55:09.280
and kind of outdamage Liquid.

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You know, puck really is kind of the glue

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to a lot of this fight.

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That's where Ma needs to just find his hero.

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Of course, we will see the lane as well.

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There's nothing hidden with Liquid lineup.

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It's like, whatever they pick on 23,

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It is the carry for Mithy, and the Marge can take the fight to it.

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What type of carry does Liquid need?

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I think Mithy just wants a life stealer probably.

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It does feel good against Tiny Matchup, you are building into Mantis style.

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Most likely going to be laning against this Batrider.

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They have some flexibility, so they have overall last pick.

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But I think picking him blindly is going to be okayish.

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You can build BKB Mantis style, you have multiple ways of dispelling things.

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So I think this might be the hero that they're looking out for.

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It's also the classic, you don't see your lane just pick Luna, path of scenario for Liquid,

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right?

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Equally as tanky as over here as Lacoste is mentioning, you can still buy the same items.

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Three items pretty much that are good in this game, Manta, BKB, plus you get Pike against

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Batrider against Clockwork, it does feel nice.

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Liquid very much respecting the nuisance of the lane with the Viper ban and then

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the puck with the Max Lover ban.

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The moment I'm not seeing the clear hero for a ma, it could just become like the casual

09:56:25.400 --> 09:56:26.400
ma's pick.

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Maybe he's inspired after watching the previous series, at least in the one game at one.

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The monkey king was still in the pool.

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Wow.

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Now I'm not anymore, of course.

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That's one thing Liquid could have done with a 23 pick is you pick a very specific

09:56:40.920 --> 09:56:45.800
type of carry that goes, you cannot play these like five off laners, right?

09:56:45.800 --> 09:56:49.880
Like a monkey plus Rubik, Hoodwink going through Twin Gate, that would have threatened Amar

09:56:49.880 --> 09:56:55.320
and made him think more defensively, that he always wants to have the serious advantage.

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So Kez and Monkey are pretty good bands that are just enabling the creativity of Amar.

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Liquid does not have any time left.

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They will go for the classic, the Mickey and Nature's Prophet.

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How does this fit into the archetype that you guys wanted to have?

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It just applies pressure across the map, right?

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you naturally itemize quite quickly to get into middle of the fights.

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Into bat it can be a bit spooky if the bat runs away with the game.

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Adam Clockwork.

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Yeah, but Mickey does form very quickly, so he at least will itemize to deal with it.

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And Batten Clockwork first had to find him.

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You'd also assume that the Puck and Pango were doing enough for him to join the correct

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fights.

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Do you see your lane, and Amar he doesn't have his Viper, the Doom, the Bristle,

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the Tide, four of his best heroes in tournament so far.

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You got a Nature's Prophet Rubik laying you have to lay it into.

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I want to see something silly. I want to see like some like rogue pick.

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Like a Legion or something. Like what are you playing type?

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The one that we have kept saying every single time we saw Falcons.

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Is that an option? I'm talking about the Slark of course.

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He's, no. It does not, it does not yield any reaction on my panel.

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at least not the hype of the wow, so different.

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Is this hype?

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It's good.

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It's good because they really don't have much lockdown

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for the hero.

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And it also has been used as a very good counter response

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to Puck using Dream Coil.

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So they have multiple ways of counter initiating.

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This is something that Bed Boom did run twice,

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I believe, silencer plus dawnbreaker,

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but they do pick it in the same phase,

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mostly in the second phase.

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But it does feel nice.

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I'm a big fan of Falcon's draft in this one.

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It does allow Clockwork to go in, play with the Dawnbreaker,

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then you have Batrider who can pull you in,

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you have Amar that can follow it up,

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and the Global Sounds, you have two.

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Like, Silencer probably loves to play with Clockwork the most,

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I would say, because this is the hero that just runs in.

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He's not afraid to die,

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and you want to make action happen,

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so getting levels that maybe dying after

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feels really nice for them,

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where they can get to the level sixes

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and then play super aggressive on top of that.

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Surprising you'd think that this hero would be good for a mark right like you can just AFK farm join the open fights that your team requires you

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But he's only played at 12 games competitively 41% win rate

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He hasn't won on the hero for like nearly a year like they get on paper the hero is meant

09:59:18.120 --> 09:59:21.040
I can you think about it being a perfect combination

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But statistically it isn't you'd like to think though with the draft that he has the mindset

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He's currently got he can start fixing that win rate

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Look at all the first time this event is we have going here with the dawn on the bat and the nature profit pluck and rubik

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Obviously, we know all the players are very well versed on a hero as they got their hands on

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Liquid you look at a lineup and it's like a ti winning looking lineup for liquid

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Right like they know exactly how to use these heroes

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So any of the advantages that we may have given towards falcons liquid already know what they are

09:59:51.760 --> 09:59:56.880
They're gonna try to play around it not too much teamfight on their side than a bit on the

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the squishier side as well, not too much percentage base damage or anything alike, playing into Tiny.

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It's also liquid.

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Like, don't ever underestimate the Nature's Prophet whenever they play with it, because they can

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make magic happen, but, yeah, looking forward, if Alkons can get the dub on the board in

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2026 against them.

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Now, all of the heroes that I saw, a lot of them, are very good at counter-initiating,

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but there's not a lot that actually initiates.

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So is there a chance that they will both fall flat, because both teams are literally

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waiting for the other guy they have clockwork batterer tiny these shows don't forget ackee ackee

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well before we get to game one of this best of three series which is uh just around the corner

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if first i'm gonna get a coach interview this is a bit isn't it i can see him oh my shoes untied

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hold up sorry can you open okay I knew it was a bitch hello I'm blitz here with

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a UI coach of Falcons a UI obviously a long day for you guys you know how did

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you feel like the draft went I think we're pretty happy with that all right

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so this is a UI with coach blitz of team liquid obviously a long day for you

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guys as well how do you feel like the draft was honestly pretty good I like

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our chances I feel like Falcons is like a fraud team you know I made a deal with

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one of your players did you hear about this no no and an online tournament we

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have to give you guys Huskar but it can only go mid and you guys only get one

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band in the first phase and it must you must take Huskar and Maureen and your

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team agreed to this do you agree to this I'm not part of this tournament

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Don't play with all of me, that's all good.

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Last question! One more! One more! Last question!

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So last question, your team's down 2-0 to start the game. Tofu got both the kills though.

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Normally when that happens, what's going through your head right now when it's just like you see the 2-0 down?

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That's not very good. What even happened?

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You guys ran into us and then they just died.

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That's not very good.

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Okay, throw the snare and lizard!

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And we're gonna throw the snare and lizard guys.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Thank you very much, Blitz.

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Thank you very much, AUI 2002 of the coaching goats, TI winners in their own right.

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And this game is an extremely excited about it.

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Team Liquid in 2026 have not failed to make it to the final day of the LAN.

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Meantime, Falcons, this is the furthest they've been in any tournament in that time

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period.

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Whose one do you believe in, which draft gives you the most confidence in these

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I think I have some confidence in Falcons and the way they are playing overall recently.

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Like you said, they haven't really reached the final day in quite some time,

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but they are looking much stronger than they have in previous tournaments.

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That is for sure.

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We have to go back to what happened earlier on while our coaches were meaning around.

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Get two kills for Tofu.

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This is a hero you used to play quite a bit when you are still playing the position 4 role.

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Very well-versed in this, as well as the fact that Liquid, when they had Insania, would often play the Rubik S5,

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so it's not atypical for them to go in this kind of direction.

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Spirit of Insania lives on.

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Yeah, overall the start for Liquid was perfect, and I think they needed the start to stop dodging your question.

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You did ask about the drafts.

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I feel like they last took the profit.

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The global presence is there. Usually they have it from Ace, now they will have it from EK.

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I just want to see wait and see just how much you'll be able to do and accomplish with the early TPs

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Because this lane on top doesn't strike me like the easiest lane for him when it comes to the mid lane though

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This used to be a pretty good lane for Park

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Like you used to pick Parkour quap into the Batrider and feel very happy about the lane

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We'll see if that still holds that wisdom right now. It's still relatively even in the CS department

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I think Bat right now isn't really played a lot on mid, it's just a fact the hero is

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almost always played either on offlane or support.

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One of the reasons is he has to hard commit, if he goes mid, every time he's going for

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any sort of a move he has to hard commit with the firefly, with the flaming lasso,

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Maybe there is some sort of a build that Mal'Reen can experiment with, a showcase, that is a bit different.

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How many times have I... When is the last time I saw Mal'Reen play Fadrider? That's a good question.

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Not recently. I don't think that they have played the bat mid this year, most likely.

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It's one of those heroes that is strictly in the last few patches, at least on off and position 5, sometimes position 4 as well.

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Top lane. Tofu contesting with crit over this Lotus.

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Amon throws for the Selyhama just to zone them away. We'll pick up the Lotus on trackwalk.

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It's a strong lane for Falcons, right? Like you have multiple ways of getting on top of profit.

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I think that's one of the things that this hero

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struggles and hits playing against

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Like you have the Celestial Hammer, you have Clockwork as well with Boots early on of course to get him if he's out of position

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But Tofu with the good start, you know, level 2 Boots, he should be there for some lift saves

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It would also be very scary for Tofu if he didn't get the early Boots

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Then you just have like level 2 Sely, Hammer, Starbreaker, plus Clockwork

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he just ends up dead.

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Snaking is top and he's showing actually, they have to make a move.

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We're gonna try to do something here onto Mikay.

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Quick able to get the Pocogs pushed back onto Mikay.

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Mikay fighting right now next to Amar, Starbreaker will come out.

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Tofu gave up a long time ago, like the moment they initiated on the Prophet he was already

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moving back, like he didn't want anything to do there any longer.

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Hey man, he's got two kills, he's trying to get a streak for himself.

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It's down bottom. Skeeter forced to just throw up the avalanche. In the time period where snaking was away

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Was a bit of space being made for ace. Yeah, you know that like overall I value pango a lot more on the mid lane

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But I think in this game, it's actually a very strong offlaner as well. You're playing versus a zero armor tiny swashbuckled

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definitely hurts and

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like usually

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Offlaner struggle to take down the tiny like from a hundred to zero because he's so bulky early on

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has too much base HP. Pangolier with just a casual blightstone is one of those

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that can hurt him. It's also one of those games right where because he's building

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an H-Layer into a Batrider that feels way better than the refusal play for this game.

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Still right now after these couple of kills early on, we are back into a bit of a

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form war. I mean this is Liquid vs Falcon's ride. We had an incredibly long

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game between them on day one of the playoffs so I'm not expecting this one to be you know a rapid

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affair between them. Snaking rotating top again. But there's an observer they see him in fact they're

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gonna bring in support themselves here they come for snaking they were ready for the second move

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this time around they will be the ones to punish him actually gonna get his first kill of the

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game. It's a very good punish he did use a TP by the way on hodling so he has to be a bit

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Be careful when it comes to the minute 6 rune.

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Like this current state of the game from the mid lane is advantageous for Malrin.

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He's got level 6 and a little bit more to work with when it comes to the resources.

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A raindrop as well and the silencer now TP's.

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The move on silencer might make a problem to the puck actually in the end.

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Okay.

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We're actually gonna throw out the last roll top lane.

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We're going for Micky.

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He TP's out.

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He gets away to safety mid lane though.

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They are diving onto Nisha, blood granade was dropped as well, but there's a dreamcale

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onto the Batrider so Mal-Reen might not be able to escape this.

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Bushwak's throne doesn't connect, Mal-Reen able to get to the river, thanks to the

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Rage-Lie, picks up a regen rune too, and Tror-Snaking dies, but who gets?

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It's crazy how that one move from Eki where he TP'd top, he was too late for mid lane

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after, transformed into a dying pug.

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Snaking just very well read, he baited on top and then he TP'd mid to go

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in for a kill on the puck.

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It's going to set up this bad rider for success. Get him to level 7 before the puck does.

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So after he builds the blink bagger, what do you go here?

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Top, hold up, crit.

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Kind of a grass onto Mikay. The Cog secondary pushback will not connect.

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And Amar can't close the gap just yet for the starbreaker.

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You will finally get there. Oh no, midtime, mid lane, Ekky.

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He's able to show up and ensure that they get now re-punished.

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Mikay though.

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Can they get the blood grenade out? They do.

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Mikkei, we'll die next to Amar, so two cores dead across the map.

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I gotta say, I am worried for this Prophet.

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Like, this was their overall last pick, but he's 0-2-3 already.

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This is a hero that can farm very quickly, but this is not an easy Prophet game.

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Like, I'm looking on the other side, it's the Clockwork eventually with the Hookshot panel mentioned it.

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Solar Guardian follow-up, by the way, so Clockwork, even on his own,

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can through the game just hunt down the Prophet.

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In this kind of a game you can just pretty much more or less just search for the Prophet, hookshot in, wait for the Solar Garden, it's almost a guaranteed kill.

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And besides that, you have Bat with innate high mobility from Firefly, he's going for Blink, maybe he'll get boots of bearing after, maybe a Bloodstone as well, something to consider from a mid lane Bat.

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And then you have a Tiny that is buying into Harpoon, maybe a Shadowblade, Blink Dagger.

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So, just a lot of things that...

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I don't think it's going to make this game easy for me.

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Bisha, Dreamclaw on the 2.

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A-Kon short from A-Ki, bouncing between the two supports.

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But no full damage just yet.

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Heal from the fairy fire.

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Make sure that Snake King doesn't die to the Illusory Orb.

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A-Ki, though, might not be so lucky.

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Now, Rhee, just needs one more right-click.

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He will find it.

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He got the DD as well, by the way.

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It wasn't denied.

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It's in the bottle.

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The projectile arrived at the same time.

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He'll activate the DD now.

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Get stunned by the sento conqueror.

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There's no dreamquail though. Tofu does have lift. Might lift him towards the tower, lift him back towards Nisha as well as Mikkei.

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Unfortunately, because he's done so, the lasso comes in immediately into the solo guardian.

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Great heads-up play right there from Amar.

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And a lot of wasted time from Mikkei. He came over to help out, but couldn't really accomplish anything.

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He walked, by the way.

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He's got it.

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Maybe he'll to get the kill onto this pango.

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Lost word, silences him.

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Can't escape.

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No opportunity for the rolling thunder.

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Is someone actually hunting Mikkei right now?

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Or is he just going for the vision?

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He's just going for the vision.

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Like you said, Mikkei, 45 CS, lowest CS when it comes to all of the cores.

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He's not level 6 yet.

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And he walked to that last fight.

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He didn't use the TP.

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I'm fortunate.

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Omar will use all of the games that he's gotten from a more free lane to finish off his faceboots.

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It's a very different game style and gameplay from the Prophet than it used to be like in previous patches.

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When you basically played without experience, you just constantly use teleportation to just choke out the other lanes,

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make a difference, numerical advantage for your team.

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But when your pressure is as hard as he was, you just don't have the resources to do that.

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No, we've been talking about busted stuff for the last couple of days.

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Okay, Mage Slayer has to be busted if even Dawnbreakers are buying this item.

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This feels a little bit ridiculous. Spangled Roll.

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Ace, coming bottom with the roll.

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Acorn shot on snaking.

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Do they have the damage? They probably do with one more hit.

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They have a blink of an eye.

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Would he connect on top of it? He won't.

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Avalanche will be there. They interrupt him before the swashbuckle.

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throw out the global silence, snaking, look like he was fooled but instead he's the one

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that gave the bonus intelligence.

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Absolutely nothing is working out for liquids.

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Any sort of an attempt that they make on a kill, backfires.

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This is after the start that they had, really, I got the too early kill for Tofu.

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Yeah, on the positive side of course, positive note, global has been used and lasso, so

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maybe this gives them an opportunity to once again make a move, maybe around the

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mid lane, if you're on the bot lane. Yeah, the smoke is coming.

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Smoke up. Rubik and the puck. Trying to make something happen together. Who will they come

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across? Nisha ideally would like to be able to find this tiny, unfortunately the istler

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solo guardian. They scanned him. Nobody's at. Puck, Nisha will see him, gets the

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vision do they have the jump hoodwink is also nearby with the shop shooter not

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gonna be able to catch up to the tiny so might have to just settle for the quick

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kill on snaking ecchi doing a nice save impression by getting the shop shooter

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side in the previous series we saw a very similar move right like they moved

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onto the tiny under the tier one tower and but nightfall just tp'd up this

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time around a little bit of a different approach they sacrificed the

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The reason why he TP'd and why he positioned himself the way he did is to delay the push and break any smokes coming in his ways.

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So, this job, even though he died, it's done.

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It was awesome to hear about the Mace layer, but it looks like a Maus change as mine.

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I'm just gonna go for the Echo Saber, beef up the right trick damage.

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That's been the build on right, like Harpoon, sometimes Armit into the BKB.

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just like you said beef up the damage make sure that you can get luminosity off

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a little bit quicker as well this overall dawn breaker is like with the skill set alone

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you bring enough utility to your teammates that you can just pull out on

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into the right click eventually get the basher as well now basher feels super

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good here good against the nature's profit against both supports so far

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things are going perfectly for falcons might go even better now if they

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smoke up Malrin and snaking, total silence is online and so is Lasso and they're looking

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for Mickey and they are going to find him. Lasso onto him, the Firefly burn damages there,

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there's going to be the global but they feel like they need to get out. Too many heroes

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from Liquid porting in. Thankfully Malrin's burn is enough to kill Nature's Prophet

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but the question is, can he get out? The answer is no. Dreamclaw from Nisha. He shows

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they need to be held in place and killed off by Liquid.

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for one in the end they did force basically every TP from Liquid to help out the

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Prophet, he still does burn out in the end, he still didn't take out. Overall, when Global was

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used something that maybe Liquid can play around, it's a very long cooldown and

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the Info will be up again in 40 seconds. Could they not have saved the Badrider of

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a solo Guardian? Maybe they could but it would be a Savior friend syndrome.

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Right like you solar guardian, maybe both of you are dying now because they did commit a lot into the Prophet

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We had no global firefly was running out as well

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Almost like I'm the real carry game so do what you need to do

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On the other side, I feel like at this point Nisha might be the real carry like he has

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One came more more less than the Prophet. He's been given given a lot of stacks

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He has a rich plate completed flying out to him

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He's gonna also participate in another kill.

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Goes the way of Asta this time around.

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He does have his mage slayer and is starting to stack up into the agonim scepter for the fangirl.

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So this early game looked like things were not starting to work out for Team Liquid,

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but they found a couple of pokes here and there.

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They found a couple of quokes, but when I said that Puck has a thousand gold more than the Prophet,

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I didn't mean that in a really good way because Prophet is really really poor

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He just needs to be ignored for now

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Let's try to farm the jungle at least he has his maelstrom. So I'm gonna have faster farming. Unfortunately. He's being hunted again

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Malrin is in the area. Nature's Prophet though does manage to leave. He read the mobile

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Even with the in this Batrider he manages to get away

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Kind of unconventional though, that we haven't seen a single aggressive move at the off-hit

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midlane.

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Lockwork, try to go in for the hookshot, looking towards the puck, lasso out onto Nisha.

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Now Rean, gets another kill, Ace, can you find a counter here?

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There's a pushback out onto Crit, Crit is being saved by the solo Guardian, Omar now

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making his presence known in the fight.

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Crit will still die in the end to the swashbuckle.

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Solar has been stolen by the way, by the Rubik.

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It's one of those spells that it's harder not to steal than to steal it.

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The moment that the Dawnbreaker goes down, there isn't a single spell that she can use fast enough, so nicely done by Tofu anyway, of course.

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Do you just reserve that to try and save Mikkei if he gets gone on again?

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You can. They can use it maybe aggressively with the puck, like Dreamclaw's Solar Guardian is also a pretty nice combination.

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Another falcons have managed to claim their second tier one tower.

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Opening up the map a little bit, forcing Topo and Ekky onto a massive de-wording duty.

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What's our Tiny doing by the way?

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We haven't really talked about him at all.

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Tiny is chilling, he's got the Echo Sabre, getting the Shadow Amulet for the Shadow

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Blade of course as well.

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So far they haven't really utilized the Tiny all too much.

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He might utilize a solar guardian to up snaking, and he should get off some very good wards,

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finding vision.

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There's the dream quail out onto the silencer, but again, silencer, happy to be the only

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one that dies after all of his effort from Liquid.

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You know, speaking of Tiny, just one thing, when you look at Liquid, and when you look

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at the combined HP of these heroes, like, Tiny is going to hurt, like whoever he

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goes on, that's almost 100 to 0, right?

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Every single hero on Liquid is just so damn squishy.

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Those have so much catch right? We've seen a lot of these tiny games where he might struggle to get to the priority target, but that's not going to be a problem in this game.

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They have a ton of catch and he can build into catch as well. Maybe a blink dagger on him is also possible. I think Harpoon is good enough.

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In this game, I don't think he desperately needs the blink. Maybe a BKB Harpoon and you're good to go.

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16 minutes in, 9-10, relatively even, Mckay just a fair man.

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Okay, if it is going to be the case that this guy is going to go into this big damage

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build, how many Aeons does Stoony on the good?

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Quite a few.

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But the thing is, you cannot go for Aeon Discs.

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I think these supports cannot be all too self-centered.

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Armaine, Ace getting caught right now by Malry, Amar shows up, solo Guardian, Starbreaker, killing Spree for Amar.

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No roll up, of course, it's quite early 17 minutes, so no real play out of that one for Ace.

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I think what they need is the spells, right? They caught the clockwork?

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Can you kill him though? A brothel of nature, bouncing around the map, with a plug you need thrown out as well as a fatal.

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Nice free kill.

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It could have used hook, by the way. It was off cooldown, Amar was close enough, but okay, ops, not too.

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I think they need a lot of Dispulse on Liquid. You are playing into a global silence, so you need

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Lotuses, you need Eul's Scepters. Right now I see a couple of Force Staffs being built

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on the side of Liquid. It's also good, like you're playing into Solar Guardian, into Clockwork

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4 staffs of course are amazing.

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Mid lane, now Reno is trying to hunt down Nisha, but he gets out.

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I've seen some really good stuff out of, it used to be the traditional thing like you see clockwork in the enemy team, you buy as many 4 staffs as possible with your supports.

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It's good again, 4 staff vs clockwork was kind of trash item in the last patch because of the expanded armature.

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the armature, but now that the expanded armature is actually added to your

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agonimceptor, force dive became a pretty good thing again.

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Gonna have three of them, right?

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And you see the build, by the way.

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This is something I'm seeing from most top-tier clockworks right now, and that's the blink

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build.

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And it kind of works.

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I mean, you have a hookshot and you have a blink dagger, so you can just blink

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behind an important target and use the power cogs, then push them back, maybe

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hit the cogs a couple of times. We saw this yesterday but the interaction is better here

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because there's no night stalker so they're not gonna you know negatively

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interact with each other. We're very straightforward from Crit.

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The game has slowed down a little bit. Who benefits from this more you know quiet

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and protracted farming period? I feel like Liquid does because they were

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completely aggressed on and the map was looking pretty scary there's so much

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catch from Falcons but so far they have managed to stabilize and get at least

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some farm on the profit but overall there's a 12k net worth dawn breaker

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running around the map I feel like he benefits the most than anyone else

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now we finally ace global silence also expended the dawn breaker that you

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just mentioned shows up for yet another kill and he's going for more star breaker

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out on the tofu tofu almost certain to die here it's a double for the dawn they

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had two four stabs there but I believe one of them got hit by the flame break

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and the four-staff didn't really work it was one of those mini interactions

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that broke it from liquid whenever you're playing into these long-ass

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cool down team fighting abilities the way you play against it is you don't you die

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the first time when they go on you and then you fight after when when everything

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is on cooldown but so far they've never made the move they made like one move

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early on when the global was down that is it

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Amar this is a loan away from his team they knew this they might have tried

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something here with the shopkeeper has a big kill you know

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Please, level 17?

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Yep.

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How?

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He's 501, level 17, he was given a couple of stacks as well to work with buying a nullifier

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next.

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It's Amar.

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He wants to carry the game.

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Smoke up still available from the puck and the hoodwink.

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Try to...

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They got scanned out bottom, unfortunately, so I don't think anybody would get caught.

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You just get a tower for themselves from Micky, at least able to get some map pressure out.

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Crit not looking good right now.

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Crit managed to snatch the wisdom shrine by the way on the right side as well.

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This was a lot of time that was spent by Ekky and Pock.

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So if you're not able to find any of these kills, you just have to rely on scaling

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and hope that Nature's Buffet can super hard carry you later.

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As Midlane, they're going directly up onto this Pock.

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They try to get him out with the four-star, it'll buy a little bit of time, face shift

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allows him to blink away.

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That will probably do Tofu, however, as Amar chases him down with the BKB.

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He's still alive, they use up Ante-Eki as well, so both of these supports, their lives

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will be forfeit in the end.

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Both of the supports bought four stabs, they used them on the puck to keep him alive.

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They did keep him alive.

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The main reason of course why he does survive is there was no global in this fight.

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They initiated a little bit too soon, the cooldown was still there on the silencer so he couldn't follow through.

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Still a good fight for Falcons, like this game feels, the advantage is 5k 22 minutes in, not too high, but it feels very free.

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The only X factor of course is the nature's profit and how much will this hero actually be able to do once he starts joining the fights.

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But so far, like he hasn't really been doing that.

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Have you been seeing him in your pubs?

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Not really, no.

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It's the only advantage that they're getting, why he has six assists by the way.

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This is ulti.

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He's been using the ulti whenever they were trying to make any kills.

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Which is something, of course, but...

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Not a lot.

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That's after Hurricane Pike now, so those moves that we were talking about earlier,

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with Clockwork being able to jump in with the hookshot,

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that's become a little bit more difficult to pull off.

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Perfect. Trouble.

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Okay, we need to go when the citizen pull down, they just keep talking us every two minutes.

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Tofu, agreeing with your assessment?

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Something we discussed a little bit earlier, right, Amar?

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Has a PKB though?

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Doesn't date, they slow jump in, they're on top of them, left back, Bushwack is there,

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but they just don't have enough damage just yet.

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He still goes holding onto the BKB during the global and now Mal-Reen jumps back in, last slow out.

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Vokshok also the follow-up from Kryk, but Mikkei has made his way into the fight at long-lost.

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With the full Mjolnir able to right-click down onto Amar, now looking to Mal-Reen, able to get him to Skeeter is here as well.

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He cleaned up Tofu on the backlines, but he can do nothing to help out Snakey, who is being shadowed by Misha, demolished by the puck, and Team Liquid finally able to mount a successful move.

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That was a massive successful move by the way. That's 5k lead just absolutely disappeared

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I was wondering if this prophet will be actually able to join the fight successfully

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But there you go 2.6k damage from him 2.9k from the puck

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Pangolier as well surviving managing to

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juke

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Like a pretty good fight I feel like falcons after everything that has happened

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They felt very confident because look don't breaker gets gone on

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Some would say just BKB and run away with Celestial Hammer.

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He BKBs and turns on them because he knows that there's follow-up.

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But that just gets way too much damage.

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Just as a secondary target, it was collateral damage that went on him.

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And Skiller wasn't able to find a big target.

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He finds the Rubik, but you are not killing the Prophet.

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I think this tiny job is actually to do as much damage as possible to the cores.

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Backward the Prophet because he can blow them up.

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I don't think they expected Nikkei's positioning in that area.

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He was like really far forward and it's like well...

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He was literally in the middle.

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Usually as a prophet you're trying to kind of be on the outskirts right because you're

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a glass cannon.

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This hero was more or less always a glass cannon so yeah, he was definitely deep.

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Going PKB next.

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Like this a lot.

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A lot of the damage output that they have at the moment from Thalkins is going

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to be the magical damage until we scale more for Skeeto.

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So for Liquid, do they still have a minute about while the Global Silence is down?

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Do they just wait for their respawns and go again?

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I think so.

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I think they can.

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Like 30 seconds on the Dream Coil, it's a pretty low cooldown at this point.

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Like they can make a move, Profit is always pretty much ready.

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Of course they could wait out the BKB.

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They have a couple of crucial items coming.

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The BKB on Profit is pretty big.

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hudwing of course queuing up the Lotus so two of the spells you'll scepter Lotus

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three if you count the BKB or Prophet of course the odds have shifted now 60 40

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game do you agree with that feels I don't know maybe 55 45 no I to me it

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still feels 60 40 I know people don't agree with the assessment usually it can

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be deceiving I think it's it's kind of correct considering what the team fight

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looks like from Falcons if they get to go on their targets properly the last

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time this last fight we saw what happens when liquid can find the right

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targets and when when the Falcons aren't really ready to fight it probably

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helps that I'm on the one that they went on right so no solo guardians who

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come and just disrupt everything it's probably always whenever you're

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playing versus dawn my one tip is always try to go on the dawn like

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Wherever she is on the map, always try to find her first.

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All the Gs are gonna be coming out.

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Clay will resume.

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Nisha farming triangle on Radiant side, Mickey farming, Dire triangle.

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So we're gonna get closer towards this Parasma for this puck.

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And afterwards also going for the Lincoln Sphere.

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Hmm.

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So Nuz want to get lassoed, wants me to just bail himself out of pretty much all sticky situations.

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This is one of those games where Liquid have to be very careful at how they set up the perimeter

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and what area they fight around. They need good wards, they need front line to be correct,

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to prevent the Tiny from reaching the profit, to prevent the Batrider from just lashing

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anyone he wants to. It's not an easy game to play at all for Liquid.

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I keep a hook shot, throw it out, and we get to see what this combination looks like.

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Mickey is probably saying, yeah, I know it's not fun bro, don't worry.

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I understand the pain.

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Whoever shows himself as long as they have this combo, they can go on him.

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It's just the nature of the beast.

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Not a lot that Liquid can do about that, but as long as the supports are the ones dying, that's kind of fine.

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As long as you can reset and go with the cooldowns

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Do not have that BKB for Mickey

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Could see them try to make something happen once they get a shot for ace

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Very very close to picking it up

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If it's still play aggressively now, Nisha also coming through as well to connect. They have an observable ward, yeah

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They saw the dawn dawn, but he's already out of there. He's got an olifier by the way

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So, our pawn, nullifier.

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Jesus.

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Didn't go for something that we see more often recently, like the AC build or some extra little bit of utility for the team.

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Nullifier, of course. Also, not too shabby.

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Oh, Boy Skeeter has just been chilling.

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Has BKB almost complete?

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Is there anything they need to wait for after he picks up his BKB?

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I don't think so.

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the cooldowns, that's all Solar Guardian is up in 9 seconds so more or less they are ready to roll

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the bkb on the tiny by the way will come at the same time as the bkb on the profit

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the glendo they're going on the tiny the bkb is not here just yet the solar guardian is available

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however it's coming through at the same time as the global with the chain disable they have

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they're able to bring down nisha even through the yule scepter ace unable to escape either

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go back in place by the harpoon of the dawnbreaker.

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That's another kill going the way of falcons in Malrin.

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Looks like he's not done just yet. Looking towards Ekki, chasing this woodwink

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to the other side of the map. But with this haste, there's no escape for Ekki.

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Skeeter ensures this, drops the avalanche, and this goes back to what you were saying.

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If you don't go on the dawnbreaker, she will come onto you and interrupt everything you're

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trying to do. Ekki was a bro. He was the four-staff on the rubik who was sleeping out

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but because of that he does die a strewn as well lucky for the bet helping out of course

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buck is definitely not a hero that can allow himself to get going on right like if you get less

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so if you get going on most certainly you are just dead hence the linkens build up by Nisha of

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course he's not really there yet it's going to be a free ages for Falcons all right about

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That's some trivia for you again.

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Uh, in all timing, oh, hold on.

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Nauri? Nauri? Nauri?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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That's nice. Ace gets the kill for that one.

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That's gonna complete his aginem shot.

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Tophu stole Avalanche.

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By the way, Ekky, when he forstaffed him and saved him, I think it's actually worth it.

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Trading the life of food ring for Rubik.

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If he has Avalanche.

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Has Dream Quail, if any of these heroes show it, get onto two.

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He's still alive, but it almost bursted it down by Skeeter.

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Managers to barely survive but now Mikkei coming in behind Skeeter very far from his team

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He's gonna try a pull-and-knife for here, swashbuckle, shield crash, they get him!

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Life number one is gone. Now there's no BKB nor a TP available.

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As a result, no way out for Skeeter. Mikkei

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carry-to-carry matchup shows up and punishes the Tiny.

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They didn't have a couple of their cores, oh by the way.

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They were on the other side of the map that of course still dead from the mid lane fight.

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a very very good pick-off by Liquid and a pick-off I mean a full teamfight in the end

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I think Miki also surrounded him by not only with the sprout but with the trends as well

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if you look at the skier Tiny like he can't get away he has a quelling blade he's not

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using it he's just like standing there he tried TPing actually nevermind I take that

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back they managed to kill him through the BKB TP

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big deal especially how much gold he was worth for killing spree ended and it's

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Mickey that gets it so Mickey is now the top net worth in this game

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alright here's the question like trivia how fast do you think this nullifier was

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for dawn breaker all time like what rank is he I think he's top three considering

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how fast he bought it it has to be top three very rarely do dawn breakers

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buy it this early on I didn't see the exact time but you're right it's

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third if we're correct it should be close enough behind only Lima and

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Christales I have judge EPT open the screen so there you go 25 13 third

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fastest all-time shout out to him fastest on this patch of course by

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quite some margin as Falcons will see if they can leverage the strength of

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this super form dawn breaker they're gonna smoke up behind them they have

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all their spells available. There's a TT on Pacto. This could be dangerous if they

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don't find the right target. Another thing that I would really like to see from Tofu

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is a Shard. By the way, he's not buying it. He's got Blink. He's got Force. It's a pretty

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good Shard game versus Clockwork as well. There's also a great opportunity for the

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Lasso. Double Lasso coming in from Mal'Reen. He just picked up the Agendim Scepter immediately

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into the Solar Guardian. They lose the Pango and the Rubik. Our Poon going forward

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Onto Echie, Starbreaker is there as well.

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And man, what a reveal of the Agadamceptor Mal-Reem with this build.

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Completely catches Liquid of God.

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Grandmaster Bat, I wonder just why they don't play it more often.

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This is looking pretty damn good from him.

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It's crazy that the network lead is still negligible, right?

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Like a 2k lead for Falcons, even with all the pick-offs that they're getting,

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isn't really growing all too much.

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Most importantly because of Mikkei, right?

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Like this H-Prophet has completely bounced back into the game and even though yeah, they just lost three heroes

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He's still farming. He's farming across the map. He farms a little bit on your side and he goes back to his is level 22 with the

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Silver edge now as well

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Got silver edge wants to go into the butterfly next a

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Bit of a problem given that you know quite rare to expect the tiny to be buying the MKB

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Is it the butterfly or satanic? What do you think which one does he go for first?

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He has both queued up, that's all.

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If he dies in the next fight, he goes butterfly first, but if everything is just going well,

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he'll pick up the satanic.

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Really?

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I would think it's the other way around, no?

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Like, satanic gives you a little bit more sustain in fights.

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I'm just thinking of how he's gonna die, right?

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If he dies, he's gonna die like extremely quickly, but it's not gonna be an extended

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fight.

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But then if he's living, he'd be like, bro, let me just farm, you know?

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We'll see.

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Stay off map.

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he has big dreams right like this is still a very expensive quick buy that he's got

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snaking with a minute 32 Midas let's go let's go hand on Midas so we're going

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late I guess he's been around he knows what his teammates are like they like

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hitting creeps they don't like finishing games

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might be able to at least find some kills right now though Maureen that's

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available again so they're smoking once more with the global also being online

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but this time around liquid are playing extremely far back look at the map look

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at all these heroes are they are nowhere near where falcons are playing the only

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one showing is actually the buck and he's probably the hardest one to dig down

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doesn't have Lincoln's just yet so if they find him he's pretty dead as

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wall. Nobody will show bottom to liquid. They TP out with Nikkei, position in the tier

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two tower behind your supports. So everything's fine. They know he's hunted, right? Like that's

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tofu. He was saying it's right. They're just hunting them every time they have all

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their spells. They might come bottom though still with the Silver Edge, Mal'Reem. Link's

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away as soon as he sees Ekky. Just trying to run away pops the bongo boots so he should

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be fine. It's a 4k gold lead for the side of falcons but a lot of it is sitting on this

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dawn breaker as well. Tiny still needs a couple of more items to become the real menace for

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his squad.

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Is this Midas really worth it on Silencer by the way? Don't you just slow down

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your refresher anyway like every support right now gets plus 100 gpm right like

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you have the greedy do you do also need the Midas I mean I respect it he wants

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to scale the thing is though on silencer as a support after you get the

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refresher there isn't really a whole lot more to go for every other item is

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like a small utility item that you buy for your team it's fine you'll get the

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refresher to get hex and we'll have double hex in the fights

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So mentor

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You take it right now by Falcons Crick got the last one

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So whose luck is gonna be favorable today by the way, you got caught with the refresher

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Patches well now

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What happened? I was searching for who else has the hex

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Oh

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Still fresh a Bissell by the way on the dawn breaker speaking of hexes and other ways of catching heroes

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They have an old fire and a Bissell on dawn

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They're basically making sure that whoever gets caught gets in

10:39:08.640 --> 10:39:09.640
immediately

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Destroyed evaporated 80% Celestial hammer cast range and speed of course level 25 dawn

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The nearest hero to him is Skeeter who is level 22.

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How did he get 25? Okay, Nisha is 23 as well.

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It's crazy. He had a really good lane, but I'm checking his farming patterns.

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He's always stacking the ancients, like whenever he's nearby, and he's also 8-1-8. It helps.

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Certainly helps as well that somebody like Malrin is always hunting for you.

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And they're hunting in the exact same area they were at last time with the smoke unfortunately.

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Mika is also hiding in the same place he was last time.

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Aeondisk now available for ace.

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He struggled someone to get out of these engagements whenever he's the first one that gets caught,

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but still at least guaranteed that he has some way of playing the teamfights.

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He's super important for them. Top lane, the TP in, Vincual.

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Okay, Omar. He is just gonna TP out.

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Sadly for Liquid, they are still without their first 25. If Buck had that one, maybe there was a kill on the Dawnbreaker.

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But there's a different thing here though. BKB got used.

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And without the BKB, maybe they can still force a fight.

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He still does have the shards, he has some kind of debuff immunity once he enters the

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fray but definitely a lot easier with the full BKB.

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These pinks, these pinks from the Batrider, they're just reading them like a book.

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They know exactly where they are.

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Hark jumps forward, not going to be able to catch up to the Batrider, does find Snakey.

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On the backside though, Crit immediately gets caught and killed by Ace.

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Nisha finds the Yolceptor, Arantum Mal Ring, he does have a BKB once he comes

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down, Mikkei making his presence known. They don't have a basher on ace so no way to cancel the TP.

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Still though considering Falcons knew they were at, like this was still a pretty good fight for

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Liquid. Mikkei did go for the Saitanik first. Saitanik on him, not too bad, like you get to

10:41:24.260 --> 10:41:30.260
this call from it as well right? So it's another bonus thing that you get versus Falcons

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When it comes to the spells, they also have Greaves now on Rubik.

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But you went the wrong direction the rest of liquid will escape maybe the right direction is just a pit

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No part for 75 rush has re spawned. I feel like this is most likely a free rush for Falcons

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I don't think team liquid can actually contest this at best. Maybe they can

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Get the lanes in order out push top out push bottom make the game a little bit easier after the rush has been claimed

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See what kind of delay tactics they have, turns out nothing, they're not even gonna bother

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putting any spells in this direction, so first Aegis went the way of Falcons and so

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will the second.

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This time around Skeeter is in a much better position than he was the first time.

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Still has his DKP, but has a giant small and the full Daedalus available.

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Do you like him going for Satanic as the next item?

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On Tiny? Yeah, I think it's really good.

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If he's caught in something like Sprout and he doesn't have the quality blade

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or the Harpoon to get out, it's funny, by the way, that he's still keeping the

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Quelling blade in the inventory, but he has to because of his throat

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But yeah, if he's caught just activating the satanic and hitting them twice should heal him up completely. So

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It's more or less a common build on the tiny

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Can you grab spider cheese with your second item?

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Which you have? I think you can. I think you can

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I like it.

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Eventually you'll maybe feel confident enough to give up the Quelling Blade, but not right now.

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You'll just calmly take the tier 2 tower.

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The Quelling Blade, the Harpoon.

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He really doesn't want to be sprouted.

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It's 8k gold lead for the side of Falcons, and Liquid still just dodging and dodging and dodging.

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When do they feel confident enough to be the ones that are making most of the aggressive moves?

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probably not for long there is an Aegis on Falcons while that item is on him I

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don't think you want to fight this liquid maybe you can defend the high

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ground maybe if you force out the BKB with the high ground push you can fight

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after but currently in the current state it's Falcons game to do whatever

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they want to on the map

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how's Mikke looking like he's good okay he's got the both items he has

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butterfly and the satanic like he's still top-notch words by the way all things

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considered the net worth numbers actually ridiculous two different heroes on

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30,000 plus he's been dodging a lot of rotations from Falcons like every time

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they make a move on one of one side of the map he's already on the other

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great they want to connect onto tofu they will pop the global silence as

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well but they use prevents the follow-up from the clockwork tiny and

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Mickey showing off to throw out the right click damage.

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They burst through this wood wing,

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but Tiny is suffering at the moment.

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He does get into the heel, but it's not enough.

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He still ends up dead before Amar arrives.

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Amar gets with a huge star breaker.

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Mickey activates a satanic heels right back up

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as Ace was running into fear into the rolling thunder.

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Swashbuckle gets the bash out onto Skeeter.

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They double-o-oan, goon him,

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bring him closer to all these heroes.

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The pistol blade is out, star breaker is there.

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Mickey's in danger, Mickey is gone.

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100 seconds in the grave with our buyback.

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Nisha trying to do his best to create some separation, force back the rest of Falcons.

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But they are running out of damage.

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Nisha, no more control available for him.

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They still would like more from this from the side of Falcons,

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but they'll content themselves with getting the huge kill on the Nature's Prophet.

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They try to quarter, not quarter him.

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They try to half him with the double harpoon on two sides.

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Some medieval tactics right here coming from Dawn and Tiny.

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Liquid, they wanted to take this fight because Global got used very early on and it wasn't super impactful, right?

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And there's a little bit of an item diff between the carries. On one side Tiny has an Aegis, but no Satanic.

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So I think that was the idea, fight around the Satanic, fight around the fact that Prophet realistically also has two lives with it.

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Unfortunately, he got pulled out of position way too easily.

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I don't think so, Blade. Also clearly making a huge difference.

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That must be so annoying, right? Your team basically has 3-4 stars, 2-4 stars in a hurricane pack,

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and still they have so many ways to just drag you back.

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And a Shard of Rubik, by the way. There's another thing.

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That's another thing that you can use on the Prophet to save him.

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But it's not good enough. At this point, they need some Lincoln Sphere.

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They have it on Puck. Maybe a Lincoln to roll out to someone else just to cast it on the Prophet.

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profit smoke up a liquid now they want to fight back scuddy what he has scuddy

10:47:01.240 --> 10:47:06.280
and 4.3 K goal so he's had scuddy for quite some time by the way and he's

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already reaching the six slot area at this point he can opt to drop the

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face boosts and buy something else maybe a blink dagger any mobility

10:47:17.120 --> 10:47:24.120
Searching for one of these supports. Little does he know though that Skeeter and the boys are coming through as well. Look at the damage from Skeeter.

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During the Global Silence they burst through Tofu. They get the catch onto Ace as well, not allowing him to leave during the Rolling Thunder.

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Amar able to get the right clicks and kill him off. Second Global Silence will emerge from Snakey. He does have the refresher now.

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Our Poon is up. They jump forward. Mikay though. Silver Edge break onto Amar but he's fighting one versus two and it's a fight he cannot win.

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Micky has gone another hundred seconds in the grave. At the very least Nisha is able to TP out if only barely.

10:47:51.120 --> 10:47:55.120
But Team Liquid, they simply cannot deal with the double global.

10:47:55.120 --> 10:47:59.120
Yeah, the double global and the double carry at this point. Right?

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Like, you're not dealing only with the Tiny that hits hard. It's the Dawnbreaker as well.

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And you can see that them, it's split 5k for the Tiny, 3.5k for the Dawn.

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They're literally doing things in tandem, just ripping this profit apart.

10:48:12.120 --> 10:48:14.720
There's not a lot that you can do as Mikhei.

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They need to find some sort of a way where profit is maybe on the high ground or out of reach,

10:48:20.920 --> 10:48:26.720
so that he can hit freely, but at this point, they just have way too much mobility on Falcons.

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Mobility and pure tunnel vision for this nature's profit.

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Like this combo of heroes, this exact draft with the Global Silence in Lasso

10:48:36.120 --> 10:48:39.520
has been a part of Dota for 15 years at least.

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It's always been a strong combo.

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It's about to get stronger. Refresher all picked up by the Batrider.

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So now we have the double-double lasso.

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Also man, they really are struggling to get Ace involved at all.

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Seem liquid are generally at their best when Ace is having a very good game

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and having big impact in their fights, but here he's very often either the first one dead

10:49:00.880 --> 10:49:03.120
or just unable to have any meaningful impact.

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And that key, his lane partner will also be dead here.

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Ace will come out of the base with the rolling thunder,

10:49:08.800 --> 10:49:11.920
but the BKB, Mal-Rain will be able to protect himself,

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rolling in on the door,

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but Amar is in no real danger of dying here.

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Just goes back, nullifier out onto To-Fu,

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hits him with a starbreaker.

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Ace trying to help him out, but it's not gonna work.

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Amar kills them, that's the night.

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Crack trying to help him, but the basher cancels off the TP

10:49:28.120 --> 10:49:30.840
and now Mikkei able to jump back in looking towards the door.

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He kills him off and ends a massive streak.

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Crick trying to at least buy some time,

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hold these heroes in the space with the Wind Waker.

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But they chase him back up the hill, kill him off, team Liquid. They lose a lane of barracks, but it doesn't come free for Falcons.

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That's just a casual Wind Waker, by the way, on a hero that also did buyback earlier, and it's a support position for him, so he's rich, too.

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Dreamcull got used on Bat, by the way, but he did manage doing all this hassle in the high ground of Dire.

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He managed to TP out. In the end, Liquid, they lose only one side, so it's not the end of the world, but

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but it's looking rough. There is no buyback on Dawnbreaker. Maybe they can make some sort

10:50:10.060 --> 10:50:11.380
of a play while she's out.

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Okay, Minka is actually in a TP forward.

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I think they have to. This is one of those situations where you just have to force the

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little advantage that you have, because you will not be given any better opportunity.

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It's still scary though, because you know for a fact that they have the double

10:50:28.780 --> 10:50:36.020
right? Yep. Double ASO Skeeter is doing an unbelievable amount of damage. Double ASO

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and the double global as well. In 20 seconds, the first global will be up.

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Scared on the side of liquid, Phil said Mickey talked to just push things out.

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Now to 17k gold lead. Yeah the thing is I don't really see Prophet becoming

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any bigger than he is at the moment like he's six-slotted, he's fully slotted out, he's

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queuing up an agonist's blessing which is something but it doesn't really change the

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damage output from the Prophet himself.

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Can you play like seven slots, get a Daedalus and then backpack the PKB before we enter

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the fight?

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You can but probably will not work.

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I also had some time to figure out if that is the case.

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Also with how long the game has been going, Snake King smiling all the way to the bank.

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It's like, Hand of Midas, baby.

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I made the right choice.

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I knew what the scheme was going to become.

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Tolsting Snake King and his Midas choices is never too smart, so yeah, definitely paid

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off.

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Roast for staff.

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He's going for Ragnon's next as well, by the way.

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Not too bad. And keep in mind that he has Pyke queued up after.

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This hero's shard has been not reworked, like this was his old shard.

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Like the double bounce or the bounce that is.

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I feel like they should change the Aghanem's on silence and make it...

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Bring me another reverberating silence, that facet. Make that the Aghanem's.

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It's an idea. It was a very strong global silence though.

10:52:17.960 --> 10:52:24.960
though. Silencer was literally played every single game because of that.

10:52:24.960 --> 10:52:30.960
The smoke was there from Liquid but couldn't find a decent entry points.

10:52:30.960 --> 10:52:38.960
In Tamar Mar, he's under vision, but they know that he can appear in the blink of an eye.

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It would be nicer for them if they were on the other side of the map and they could gank him while he's alone from his team.

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They're actually gonna try there, they're gonna go through the twin gate.

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They have vision on him.

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Are they going for him or the Tormentor? Let's see, it seems like they're going for him exactly.

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They have vision still.

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He's getting out though.

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Let's see, will he go back to base or will he try to farm in these camps?

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There's a smoke bomb.

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Malvreen.

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Hasted.

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Yeah, but he's going the complete wrong side of them. I think the mom might get caught here.

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This is a very long draft from Team Liquid.

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But unfortunately they don't have the whole team with them.

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He just BKB's immediately. The moments he sees Nisha, Mikkei TP's in as well.

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Global silence will be there though. Hookshot and the Lasso, throw Knob onto this nature's profit.

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He was too far forward and he's killed off again. 99 seconds, but he does have buyback.

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Now Reed refreshes, wants the secondary Lasso. Who's he gonna be able to find?

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He'll settle for Tofu. Just get the easy kill.

10:53:34.740 --> 10:53:38.740
As Ace trying to roll through this buyback, do something.

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They buyback with Mikkei. Mikkei's gonna re-enter the engagement, looking towards Amar, getting the right clicks out.

10:53:43.540 --> 10:53:47.860
Yosepter with the windbreaker, could have by time 4 or more to get back like in.

10:53:47.860 --> 10:53:53.540
Miki forced to pop the Zatanic and try to right click through, but the Solar Guardian stuns him from the heavens.

10:53:53.540 --> 10:54:00.500
The Starbreaker kills him off. Two minutes, no Nature's Prophet. TP out from Ace. He's going to be able to leave.

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Eki with the pushback holding back crit at the very least, allowing Nisha to escape to the north side.

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But that was a huge risk, a huge gamble that Team Liquid took and that gamble did not pay off.

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it didn't at all, but you have to respect it, right? Like I absolutely respect Mk for buying back,

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because this status quo was not going their way at all. Like after the first initial couple of

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spells, big spells were used by Falcons, I feel like that was their only play. Buyback and try

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it because Tiny did, he did get dropped very low, they almost got him, but the Cytanic and

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the buyback from the Dawnbreaker of course saves the day. Dawnbreaker now on the frontlines

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with that tiny there's gonna be a dream girl but immediately a two hero lasso

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emerges from malrin i haven't killed any of them just yet though

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haste was able to run into clearance with the rolling starter

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stolen lasso only results in a stolen life from tofu

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amar just diving deep to the back lines this harpoon install breaker combo

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eviscerates the two supports ekky forced to buy back

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and amar he dies here it is a dieback but he still has 3k hp left

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Half HP and still 3k by the way.

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Sitting on...

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a bit over 5k.

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It's crazy that Skeeter can leave the fight and they still have this much damage available on the front lines.

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Noble...

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will be utilized. Hookshot nicely done by Crit. China trapped in Aces here.

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Starbreaker again, forcing a dive back out onto Ekki.

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Avalanche will be there from Skeeter. A couple of right clicks to bring down Ace.

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Nisha, the lone survivor.

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Even that could change if he doesn't manage to escape here, Amar trying to chase him down,

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Starbreaker again with the Abyssal Blink.

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He makes it a team wipe and surely makes it a one game for Team Falcons.

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They have attained the megas, they are demolishing the tier 4 towers.

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Buyback on Puck, they're still not giving out profit, it's up in a second.

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They actually want to take one more fight versus Falcons because it is Falcons.

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They know that these guys are going to go back.

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Maybe wait for rush or something.

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No rush is up right now so they can head immediately into the pit.

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They could have also just started hitting the throne of course.

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They had 5 heroes up with all their spells more or less.

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But of course, it wouldn't be Falcon's. It wouldn't be the Falcon's way.

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Does Mikkei have enough gold for a rapier? He does not.

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So there will be no rapier, no Hail Mary item for him.

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They will be dealing with two lives.

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I guess we give the Aegis to Amor right since he's the one that fought back.

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Yeah, I think so. They do. They gave him the Aegis, the Chiefs goes to the Bat.

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He also has a Refresher, of course, though he doesn't really need the Shards.

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Gita, you're gonna find Nisha! To die back on Park,

10:56:50.180 --> 10:56:52.660
two minutes without your greatest disruptor.

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Yeah, they can wrap it up. Prophet on his own.

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It does have Rubik and Hoodwink of course, but only if they dive them in the fountain. I think that this game is

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Maybe the Wobble. Hango is up.

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Global number one, remember they're gonna deal with three Wobbles because they gave snaking the refresher shot.

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There's Wobble number two, Starbreaker out onto this nature's prophet to kill him off. And there's Wobble number three.

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They silence all the heroes. They silence all the doubters. Team Falcons secure game one here in the lower bracket.

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This was clean. This was literally clean. Everything was so precise from Falcons from start to finish

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They had that one death with the BKB TP from Tiny. That was pretty much the only silver lining that I could see in Liquid

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But the pick off potential from Falcons was through the roof. Perfect game from Team Falcons

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Let's send it back to the panel to break down this incredible performance

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Thank you very much gentlemen. That was a

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a silver tier downbreaker.

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And normally that would not pass the Amar test.

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But when he chooses this for himself, then it does.

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And we can clearly see why.

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Oh my gosh, that man was everywhere.

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Yeah, there was a potential fear in the Falcon's lineup

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of who can be like,

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Amar's always the guy who goes in first

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on a downbreaker, statistically not the best here for him.

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But all of Hal, Maureen and even Crick,

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and Skidow are playing,

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throwing their bodies into the mix,

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finding constant pick-offs.

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It felt like every time bat or tiny clock found a hero,

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Dawn's there, get a kill, reset,

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and there's built up such a great net worth it.

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Like the laning phase was really good

10:58:33.220 --> 10:58:34.180
for the Dawnbreaker as well.

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Yeah, I think Dawnbreaker is very good

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at not needing to panic ulti.

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I think these are the best type of lineups

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for Dawn wants to play,

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where you don't necessarily put yourself in a bad spot

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because you're trying to save one guy.

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Instead, you have the lockdown,

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and you have this drag back,

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you have Clockwork going in,

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all these big bodies that you mentioned,

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allows Dawnbreaker to play slightly longer fight,

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And this one they're gonna be able to clean up as well like in one of the last fights he's gonna be using the buyback still having

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Altie available knowing that this is gonna be the play having that extra bit of a global presence

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Nicky try to do the same with the global presence of nature's profit, but they were just so far behind

10:59:10.920 --> 10:59:14.960
Yeah, there was some moments where they could go the odd kickoff, but that was kind of it

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I even taking the the ages on on the tiny you talk about

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I'm not going there, that's on you boss. And it's like that's the type of mindset Falcon's has right. It's like even if you have a random death, they just go again, and the heroes that you have, it's the Glowballs, it's the Lassos, the Hookshots, they've got so many tools to hold Liquid down, but a Nature's Prophet carry, if any other team drafted this line up, I think, would you say like Falcon God, if it's amazing against Nature's Prophet, it will break the hero easy, but because it is Liquid, you always have to give them the ball.

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If any other team drafted this lineup, I think, would you say like Falcon God, if it's amazing against Nages Prophet, it will break the hero easy, but because it is liquid, you always have to give them the benefit that they know how to make this hero work.

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And even with them playing the hero, they just couldn't muscle up at all into Falcon.

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It's a very squishy draft like they can't really match against them in a real

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teamfight because you're playing in the global silence and we're seeing the old

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snaking the old greedy snaking picking up the greedy enchantment twice

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picking up hand of Midas knowing that he can outscale them getting agonim

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scepter plus refresher orb on his position five silencer on top of like

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two support items getting a ghost scepter getting the four staff for

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himself and the indian he pops a couple of those global silences just to seal the deal for that game

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there was a high amount of respects given i feel like by falcons on team liquid and their draft

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and i think that is what made this game feel so it was a little slower but it was still very

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dominant if that makes sense yeah i feel like falcons had a grip on the game pretty much the

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entire time at least for like the big picture of who's meant to be winning the respect against

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like would is just historically they know how to get these heroes to do things that no one else can do

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so again i think it's just uh it is just discipline and i have no i have no issue with it right because

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they were so aggressive in the early to mid game they're allowed to to slow it down a little bit to

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ensure they don't throw anything away yeah in the late game like stand-up player amar like he

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just owned completely throughout the whole game i was looking at tiny and dawn breaker they have

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over 10,000 HP together. This is like the amount of damage. Like when we look at, when we do like the

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breakdown of the teamfights and then you see somebody dealing like 12-13,000 damage, you're like,

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oh my god, he's doing so much work. You need to deal that much damage just to kill two heroes before

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they are going to be able to heal up with their satanics, with the passive abilities. It's just

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something that is right now in meta. It does feel slightly too strong because everybody is so

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Thank you. Yeah, you can see all the little vertical lines

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Not sure if that's real balance over there

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It's not a tool

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I mean falcons when when they have heroes that can do this, but still continuously fight

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That's when it's really scary when they do it in only a farm mode

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I think that's when people have more critique

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But the way that they can scale and fight in this game

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It's why I think this low bracket run is so impressive by them

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They get knocked down by liquid in the upper bracket

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But every single low bracket in so far. It's like, whoa, that's how they're doing it now

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like it's same like method but the heroes are slightly different. Yeah and we already

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praised Tiny Dombreaker, we should praise the Bat Rider as well because Mal-Reen had a great

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game especially in the early games we go. Yes I believe Mal-Reen had an exceptional game on this

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Bat Rider. I love the fact that you know here he's like trying to kill up Ekky, he goes for the

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kill and here's like I think other players would go you know what let's just sit back and chill

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for a little bit but he goes nope I'm going straight behind the tower I'm running into the

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enemy jungle I'm gonna go take some camps just apply pressure and after all of this he's actually

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even going to bait Nisha I believe into a little play here in which they get the kill on him so

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just the mentality of this bat rider was just play forward when Amar isn't doing it because

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he's not playing personal tide or something you need someone else to take his fill his shoes

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and Maureen was like thank you so much I will get to do this in spades and I think the

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The combination of bat dawnbreaker was insane

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Yeah, they incredibly strong and then there was the overall first pick pango

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So we're like where that you know

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It's been a hero that people really like to get and that's why he's so high priority and then you get overall last pick

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Dawnbreaker and we're like, you know, he doesn't play it very often. There's so many off-laters bound

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This is the only one still left because yeah, but there is a massive difference what these heroes can do because as pango

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You need to be close

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This is the power of dawn breaker where you can like go for extra wave

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You can keep farming in the outer ring

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Because it does allow you to join the fights every single time whenever you want to and big difference in items as well

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Like you see he has echo saber. He has a bkb available

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Well, there's only one item on pango and that's mage there

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I think he's trying to go slightly more greedy go for agonim scepter straight away to be like even more annoying in the

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fight to try to reduce that damage but the offline difference definitely did

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matter in this one especially in some of these fights are again you can see the

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combo they are going in with the triple ulti pretty much to be able to kill off

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ace trying to reduce that damage that he's trying to put on to them and just

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an easy pick off another one one-two combo that they did pull off of

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putting a mar like on the board as well where his network just skyrockets

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yeah make you think that the dawn break a priority maybe also should be up

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I think it's draft-dependent but just the way that they played for Dawn just felt so good compared to Pango

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It's like all the clips are saying it's like they're enabling him or say they know liquid never went to him because they had to react

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So that's how you have to play against on yeah, but we're gonna find out team liquid

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sunspan is going to tell us the top five most entertaining players to watch

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go to history number five that's a great question sir action slack thank you

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let me think they said that you wouldn't touch me there's a need to be in

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In any order.

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Yes.

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Number five is the lowest.

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Number five is the lowest.

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They said he would not.

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All right.

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I'll pick one current player.

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Okay.

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Go ahead.

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Stop.

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Go.

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Each player I choose, I go higher up on your body.

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Go lower.

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Amar is a current player.

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Amar.

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Top five.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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He plays the off lane, but he actually plays Kerry.

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He doesn't give a shit about his team.

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He's like, I'm playing Kerry regardless of what lane I'm in, and they actually cater

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They're lineup to him their team to him, which is very special Amar is awesome. He just pop off to very fun to see

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Yeah, look into the camera instead. No, I want to look at you. That's very good

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All right, how about number four number four in no

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Let's see. Yeah, we're not gonna

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Kia taka. Yeah, yes

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He is I'm not gonna name the other player because it's my number one. Okay, but he

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You never know what's gonna happen.

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It's either the best thing you've ever seen

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or completely atrocious.

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It's almost like watching a Sir Action Stax Pub.

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You just never know if he's gonna grief

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or win the game for you.

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I actually doesn't really sound like you.

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No, that doesn't.

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You're just the grief.

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That's more of a someone else

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but I think he might be on the list.

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How's number three?

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Number three would probably be Topson.

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Topson?

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Topson?

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Always has very crazy builds.

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I mean, I remember the diffusal on Gyrocopter

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against the Bristleback on Wii and TI.

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That literally won them the game.

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That was huge.

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is insane and number two.

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Sorry, am I taking your job?

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Would you like to say number two?

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And number two.

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And number two.

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I definitely have Miracle.

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Miracle.

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I mean, he might be the greatest player of all time,

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at least for that span of period that he was actually

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playing, he just pops off all the time.

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Okay.

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Insanely entertaining to watch.

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And,

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this is your job.

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All right, great jobs with Farson's fame,

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but who would you put as number one?

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It's not close, sir, action slash.

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Yes, thank you so much.

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viewer for making it through this piece that's ass goodbye

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team Falcons and team liquid they are playing right now it's a best of three

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one game up for Falcons and for Liquid, that means if they drop the ball in the next game,

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they are eliminated and will remain at fourth place here at Pijal, ah yes, season eight. And

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well, look, they seem very focused. You almost not notice that they won game one. They did. They

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were very keen about it and curious to see where game two will take us. And I'm hoping to hear

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from Lacoste and Tegav what they feel should be the highlights coming into the next game.

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I want to see Shiver if we're going to be seeing the same support too from Liquid because

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they snatched both of them.

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We did the show earlier prior to the series that Falcons, they loved to run one of them,

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never two of them.

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So they played a bit of a mini game and it seems like they lost it because even though

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Rubik looked good, I think Tofu at one point of the game, he was 3-0 and 5.

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He was the most farmed support out of all of them, had Essence the Scylla relatively

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early.

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He was doing a lot of work.

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It's just that Sand Lanccio does ruin this hero as well in most of the fights.

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Yeah, and for me, I'm looking towards Tiny.

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Alright, I feel like Falcons have utilised it really nice on Skiddo.

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Multiple games in a row now.

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It kind of makes the draft feel good.

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Falcons are going to be second pick again, getting the last pick in the entire draft, most likely going to be a mile.

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So if you're liquid, it's like, okay, what are the calls that enable that, right?

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Of course, Hostgott has always banned against Falcons.

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as well so they do have one band left last game it was the bristleback from

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liquid and maybe in promoting the tiny could be a better option yeah tiny just

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feels super strong like even in the games when he loses even that one game

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when Aurora was playing when they overextended it still look godly

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throughout the whole game pretty much up until that point but then again the

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The hero just does everything.

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It has an insane amount of control, strong in the lane, super good scaling.

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So I just need to see percentage-based damage.

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I think maybe they could have picked something else.

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Maybe they could have put the pango on the mid lane still, play percentage-based damage.

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Underlord was still available for them.

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There was also lifestealer available for Team Liquid.

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A lot of things that maybe they could have swapped things around, but yeah, they got

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to focus on this new draft.

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Yeah, and they ban out the pango. That was the hero the previous game. They actually prioritized in picking

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So they were not too happy with that type of offlaner. It tells me yeah

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I guess they felt too forced with the pango and what did to their draft?

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Let's say liquid really respects tiny there is a one where they first pick it themselves

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Of course Nisha and Mickey would likes to play it. We can create that entire narrative of the hero there, but

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I'm listening to the Pango Band.

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Yeah, for Falcons it was the Windranger, it will be once again the Windranger they'll remove.

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So for them the Bands didn't change, so the only change is the Bristleback is not Banned

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and the Pango is and it's the Batrider that Team Liquid will pick up for themselves.

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Yeah, it's Echie's most played hero.

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They, I mean we had an interview with him where he talked about that this is supposed

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to be an offlaner in this patch or just core in general because it scaled so well with items

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but he also said that he can't play it if it's like he could still do stuff like he

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can still stack and get a blink dagger or is a scary hero throughout the whole game.

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It also just helps in regards to where Falcons are going to go. They still pick the Tiny

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but you know last time Pango vs Tiny the 1 vs 1 Tiny is going to be fine. You brush

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off whatever Pango does to you but if it's a bat and a Tiny the 1 vs 1 whilst

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with mid-lane pressure is applying, Ace can't even kill Skidder in this matchup. So it's

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time to keep an eye out. So they have only one ban on side of Falkens. Kez is still available,

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like we saw Kez matching up kind of toe-to-toe when it comes down to damage when he's playing

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against Tiny, where he can actually stack the damage, especially if Tiny gets isolated.

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Like you're in a very difficult situation. Kez as a hero just pops in so much damage,

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reduces your damage, reduces your armor with itemization. So it feels like a very good hero overall.

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Yeah. Oh, this is already so different. We have got in the previous game Liquid removed two of

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the Marseillord. They still removed the tide, but the respect is there for the silencer as well.

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Yeah, when you pick in the Bat Rider, you know the type of game that you're going to play.

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So I think they're giving away some of the Greedia heroes like the Doom.

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They don't need to ban up this time. It's like, okay, if you want to go Radiance or

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of playing Doom, the expectation is Liquid will try and match that and beat you before

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you get online, right? They're not going to allow this tri-scaling to occur.

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Do you think that Falcons is going to put a higher priority on either Hootwink or Rubik

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purely because of the play that Liquid pulled previous draft?

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No, I just feel like they're going to be protecting their Tiny and then pick one

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of those two on 13.

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Yeah, so it was a good band like it doesn't matter where betroth like this betroth is most likely gonna be played from the offline whether

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Position four or in that position three role

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But you are still playing into silencer and it does feel bad for you to use your spell as long as you have our cane curse on you

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The slow it does proc so you don't want to be using the slow

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So it kind of feels bad

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But also the way they had to play out the fights was much more difficult for them playing in the global silence and later on

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double global silence

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taking their time. Queen of Pain was the previous ban for them. Do they still want to remove

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Midlaner? They removed them earlier this time round. And pick the Phoenix. Stable support.

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Yeah, it's very stable and it also kind of puts pressure on the Batrider's game. When

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you're jumping in, if you grab the Phoenix, then you're probably going to get an egg,

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If you don't get the kill it just make sure that the the lanes a little awkward and when you chase down

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You want to be utilizing firefly right getting a total of heroes fire spirit slow dive to get away avalanche

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There's a lot of this nuisance now in this safe lane combination of the Phoenix tiny that maybe an off-lane back rider

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Can't you break the lane it might just go even we started the tournament with tiny and Phoenix seven atrocious win

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that I believe it was like zero and five, but overall it did improve over the

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tournament. I think it was just an error when it comes down to which teams did

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play it. It's going to be Io, so... You finally get to see it.

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You've come down a couple times. Yeah, I mean, I think Liquid just hasn't played it

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for when we're covering their series at least, and I'm just intrigued to know

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how it's gonna work for them, because like conceptually it's very high

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pacing it makes liquid play just way more aggressive like a back rider IRLane

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That the chase down the kill threat I go through twin gate

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You pair with a Mickey carry that also likes to utilize it

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Maybe from the mid lane you have like leashes and storms that don't mind the reset potential. Yeah, I mean I can really make teams

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Play on another level. It's like P vision always had a bad

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Also, it's a global presence you saw in the previous game where you can try to outnumber the opponents

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So Batrider, he gets the blink dagger or just gets initiation with bongo boots into lasso into relocate

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It does allow you to play a bit of a different game

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It simplifies your execution of the ganks as well. So I want to see what kind of a carry

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They're gonna be getting someone that does benefit from IO littered down the line

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This is gonna be like a laning partner. Oh

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Do go for the case they do go for I mean it's too good of a game like

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If you also want to run Io in the lane with Kez, this is also an option that they have available.

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It's a really scary lane to play into.

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Just to get the numbers out for the Phoenix and Tiny combo, they've been played 15 times together.

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And they only won four of those times when they were together.

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Is there some kind of counter synergy there, or is that just coincidence for bad teams are playing it?

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I think everybody was playing these heroes because coming into the tournament

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I think teams realized Phoenix is one of the best if not the best position five was the most contested hero

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For a long time and then tiny everybody realized it's it's a good laner

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So if they were paired up together not because it's like a super synergy in the lane

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It was more kind of force picking really good heroes and then losing the game

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This one thing to note when ecu plays the IEO a lot of his you know highlights from this tournament

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have been, the hoodwinks, the lions playing down the river,

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finding the hero, calling for the TP,

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look at me, let's get that kill.

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When you play Io, someone else has to fill that role.

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So I am looking towards maybe Tofu

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being able to pick up a hero that can just

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start some random fights.

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Surprisingly, the last two games of Io

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that we saw, the two and O Liquid has,

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the other support was Techies.

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Ah, so it wasn't as if it was like a tough score

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of a hero that can kind of play the safe lane,

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run through the map, it was a different style,

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but Queen of Pain and the Bat Rider,

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both, you know, back by and blink, queen having blink, they are ready to go look for a fight.

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Aggression is there for sure. Yeah. Not too much lockdown either. You have

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good wink and you have tiny spells, which is usually not enough to be able to kill queen of

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pain, especially at the later portions of the game. We just say that on the other side as well,

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because you can't... Stuns are luck and abuse that. I mean both teams have the

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same type of potential problem. Of course, if you win the lanes and get a bit of

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of tempo. Lockdown is not really a problem because you can just run through the map, play

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for objectives. It can be very spooky. But something to consider for both teams, potentially

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with their final pick. Again, we are assuming the last pick for Liquid will be the Offlane

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or the 5, because Backrider right now can be both of those roles. And then for Falcons

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probably, just to carry?

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Yeah, we need to... For Falcons, we are looking for the mid laner. We need something

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that's going to be trying against the Queen of Pain.

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So I'm okay with Ember.

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Something like just searing chains, builds into mage slayer,

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something that Queen of Pain doesn't like to play into.

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You will have ability to block them down.

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Just feels like something that can't stop them

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from this early aggression as well,

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because IO plus Kez and Queen of Pain,

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they can take control of the map so early,

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especially the bottom lane.

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And I think that's one of the reasons

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why they picked personal back as a response,

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because you can still have damage, like he's hitting you from behind, it procs, you get that one extra Quill,

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and then you Quill again, it's an insane amount of damage that can get you a kill, but it's also a Lotus or Viot,

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which is probably the best item you can buy against Liquid's lineup.

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And Farukin, again, you said they respected Liquid in Game 1, how they drawn out a little bit longer.

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Heroes were right with the Brusselback. They go for low cooldown heroes, knowing that Liquid wants to take Skirmishing Fights.

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Some people might have been saying, why didn't you pick the Doom into an IO?

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he can relocate the Doom target away. Also if you waste Doom and you have it on

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cooldown it gives Liquid a really big window to fight. So I think Falcons are

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heavily respecting some of the strongest Liquid combinations we've seen in the

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tournament by just matching their timings and their lack of care for the big

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cooldowns. Yeah banning out both the support and the off-laner respecting the

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flex there as well. If they're looking for 4 I could see some like Tusk it

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does feel nice if they want to run core Batrider in the lane. I feel

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This gives them ability to kill both Bristol back and Tiny at any time

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It's also a bit of a safer queen of pain like having two saving supports feels nice

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But it's just the tag team tag team owns both of these heroes the same argument can be made for like a Marcy

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Right where you can just like jump on to the air kill the egg

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You grab a hero and you just take the fight go crazy like it's I

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Think we both kind of agree with that that

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Support if it's be picked to be in and so we just follow the script of what they've done before right

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We did mention that the last time they played it, it was, you know,

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Io plus Techies is their support combination.

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Run it back.

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Run it back for the third time.

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Alright, so what do we like to see in the mid?

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The Void Spirit's out, Storm and Ember are still in.

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Is it going to be just one of those two?

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Unless he can cook something differently, I feel like...

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What's the cooking option?

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He's played like Death of it, again, to varying success,

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but another hero that could exist,

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You shove the mid lane, you get tanky, it gives you that tab taking potential, Roshan potential, you have goo plus death profit it is.

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Primal if he, it's a bad match against Co-op, like but I've also seen him pick like Sanking, yeah he does like Sanking, he does Primal even in losing matchups and then he makes them work but I would still say Ember would be my first choice.

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All the heroes are mentioning, if they get jumped by like a reo cake,

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can brush it off and go, you know what, I survived the jump.

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Now let's take the fight, right? They all have like that type of tool.

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And that's what I'm hoping to see, I think, from Maureen.

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Be able to, you know, just put kind of a bit of a wrench in Liquid's plan.

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Well, he's running out of time to decide what he wants to play.

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It will just be the Ember.

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Why don't they keep it straight?

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It's not over complicated.

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Yeah.

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Keep it simple.

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So what does that do to our lanes now that they're all fleshed out?

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Do we have any like okay that lane is gonna suffer regardless?

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Okay, are they okay? I want to see which lane Ekki is gonna be playing. Yeah, but this is gonna be

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Kez plus IO lane which I think could be better overall because of the healing aspect as well

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It does allow you to play much more aggressive

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know that your stick is always going to be full playing against Bristleback so

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having like two sticks full width better does feel nice to turn around

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potential is definitely there because Batrider and Techies is also a strong

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lane. I'm just looking whatever is the lane into Bristle it is like it like you

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mentioned there's so much fight in it that it can't go either way you can

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utilize the stick you can also utilize the fact that if you overplay

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your hand and then hoodwink plus Bristleback they have so much chase

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It's just annoying. So I'm just have full focus on the whatever versus Amar lane it is.

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And of course it'll be Mikkei Amar and some supports.

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Yeah, Amar popped off in the first game. Did there is any way to put extra pressure on making

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his lane a little bit more miserable this time around or is the lane itself?

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I think if they want to it needs to be Io plus Kez, otherwise he doesn't get as pressured.

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Or just at least bring supports to mid. Allow Nisha to have a good lane there,

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Just keep pressuring ember and then he can just TP down at any point or even walk down and kill a mark a couple times

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Like Queen of Pain in the early game, Bristleback can't be food for that hero

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So that's kind of one way to stop a mark from just you know entering the game with a lot of confidence

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Now I know Techies can rotate fairly easily. Hio maybe not as much

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Correct. No, he wants to stay in the lane like we've seen position 4's farm good amount

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But this is like post laning stage. We saw 9 class who does tend to get a lot of farm

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just moved to the jungle, I could do the same thing, holy lock it, like into agatom scepter one game,

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just to become like another core if the game allows him to do so.

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How much freedom do the supports on the side of Falcons have to move around,

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to maybe help if there's a gank coming in the mid lane?

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Quite a decent amount of freedom, I think, hoodwink. You got to fight in your lane,

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give person potentially a good start and then you can just leave and do whatever you want.

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Phoenix, UTP, you dive, you're going to be in the middle of any fight you want, right? So

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support something, have an easier time to rotate and that's what Liquid need to kind of counter rotate.

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Is there anything in particular still that we have missed about this draft that we feel

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the need to point out?

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I'm just happy it's just two broadly lineups that have like an honest approach to the game

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where it's like we want to fight, we want to kill you, if we kill you enough times we're

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in the game.

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Like there's no complexity of we must scale, it's just go.

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Fight it out.

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That's the way we like to see it as well.

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Before we see that game though, we're going to see AUI 2000 in slacks.

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Thank you so much.

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Yes, we are here with AUI 2000.

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How we we got to hear you in the booth before you went out. We heard your entire conversation with your team

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We actually aired that why did you say those things and can you repeat them for us?

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Yeah, it's just to bully my players a bit their egos are too high

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So I just have to insult them for the minute and half strategy time. That's what you did the whole time

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Yeah, every game every game. That's cool. I'm sure that actually does motivate a lot of people

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So you're against the behavior score system. You think the comm score system should be abolished as what you're saying in game

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No, you should definitely be muted. Okay fans

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That's not necessary to talk about. Let's talk a little bit about this IO support now

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We heard a lot of stuff coming out from this especially from ParaVision 9 class was on an 18 game win streak with this IO support

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And it has been a little rare. We're seeing it here today

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Is this something that you guys considered because they have yet to be defeated with this?

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And we considered it but like we banded our first series or some and they two zeroed us

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So it's a big problem, but I think they like it risk Phoenix like you get some of tax feed

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I think the lane season is a good bet if you could have an ideal world where they were unable to ban

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ATFs doom or bristle which one would you choose?

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I think bristons more versatile for us

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Fantastic speaking of versatile are you guys going to put them to bed here today?

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Are they going to verse a swiggle their way out of this and go to a game three or do you think that this will be the end of

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This story. What's the possibility? They could win this one

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I don't know but we're not 0-2 at the start so that's good for us.

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That is very good absolutely all right well my friend thank you for such incredible answers.

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It's rare to have a coach care this much and I just want to thank you on behalf of the

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community thank you so much Allie.

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Thank you Slacks.

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Thank you guys let's go ahead and get it into the game.

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Thank you so much Slacks.

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This is it. The story needs to continue for Team Liquid. This game is do or die.

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In Game 1 they summoned the Ghost of Insania. In Game 2 Lizard, the Ghost of GH, man.

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We bring back the IO for Team Liquid. What are you feeling about this?

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I'm feeling good about the IO. I think this hero is actually...

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I mean, he is banned here and there, but overall IO is in pretty good state.

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He got reworked a little bit. He got equilibrium as the innate ability.

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build more or less on Io, for most players, is the same with a very early Sol Ring build.

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The lane itself is actually really good with Bat. I know Fano was talking about the lane,

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there we go, the kill on the Phoenix. They were talking about the lane with Kez,

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but the lane with Bat is actually very scary because of movement speed. You have movement

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speed, you tether together with the Firefly, you get Bat's moves, and you can go for spirits

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early on. Long gone are the days where I was just played without spirits. Right now you're

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just maxing out as soon as possible. So basically by level 5 you have 1-3-1 kind of a build.

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On top lane they're going to go directly back onto ace here.

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When you shoot this Batrider, very good kill.

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Right, he got 12 stacks on the tiny but big fat wand of course coming into play.

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One of the ways you can't play the lane right into the Batrider is by

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as many wands and sticks as possible.

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You can see the first blood down bottom from Crit,

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and I feel like this is quite important,

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not only to level up Crit, because, you know,

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we've seen how much work a hoodwink can do

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if it gets off to a good start,

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but man, you have to inhibit this kid's hero.

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If you just let this kid roll out of control,

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we've seen what can happen time and time again,

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regardless of what the enemy drops it's looking like.

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He's like an answer to every single hero on their side.

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He has an answer for everything.

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If he has a silence forever,

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he can make the whistle back.

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for a little short while at least but you cannot turn if you're hit by the

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Kazurai katana like you have Falkhuls rush vs. Jax or at any single point in

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the game you can pretty much solo Jax as well overall the scaling is good you

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go for a maidslayer or a dezzo or maybe both good thing that they started off

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kind of all down bottom

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well zoned back Amara a little bit but should be fine see what if Mikhei

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is going to follow the template that's been set by Kiddich. Just go mage slayer

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deso. I mean that feels fine for this game, right? It's good. Might actually punish him a

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little bit here. Okay, does have the grappling claw to try and get away, so

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even though he'll take a reactive taser, eat some claw sprays, in the end he'll be okay.

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Another thing that the panel did mention is we're gonna get eventually that

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attacks be on the overcharge from Echie.

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Echie's gonna have a really difficult time like laying out the eggs in the right place in these fights.

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Yeah, absolutely. The thing is, it's not only the overcharge, right?

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Like whenever you're playing as Phoenix, you want to position your egg,

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and you want to have a good, good notion on where every single hero is

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in the teamfights so you can position yourself well.

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But the derelocated self can be a problem too,

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because suddenly your egg is not only getting hit by one hero,

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but there's an additional two heroes hitting it so another problem that can happen by the way it's

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not only the attack speed as well with the equilibrium you're getting some max damage

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from from IO so spell amp as well oh yeah that'll be fun on cares not too shabby at all

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now a lot of heroes were falling low but everybody is able to heal back up

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Let's take a gander at the mid lane, Queen of Pain. Despite the fact that we saw Queen

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of Pain lost earlier today, it's not because of the Queen of Pain. This hero is still absolutely

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disgusting in the damage output.

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She's in a good spot. When it comes to all of the spirits, Ember is considered, I wouldn't

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say a better one. I feel like Void spirits and Ember more or less are in the same spot.

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The worst one is the Storm Spirit is the only one that we aren't really seeing

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in this meta at all. Top lane, Phoenix.

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I'm just looking at these health bars on Dyrion, like Phoenix is.

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1% HP, Tiny dropping lower, Ember as well.

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Lanes so far going really well for Team Liquid.

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places of the game feels very good for them. We have a couple of undefeated heroes right on

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both sides on one side the Ayo on the other side of course the Bristol back as well I think

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Techie is two undefeated one tofu is playing him. Now Rene oh sonic wave missed that's so unfortunate

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Nisha we've all been there again we've all been there again. Not too happy about that one

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Ayo, will be zoned out from the Lotus on top. I mean he smiles in the end. That's all that matters. It happens

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You can feel better with all your sonic rays that you're missing usually DD mid and they have him Bushwack will also connect on to him

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You'll be able to blink away. He does now rain does have remnants, but he's run out of mana now

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So we'll be able to find Nisha in the trees

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Okay now now now it's not a smile now. It's really bad now

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Now it definitely does, because if you did get that kill probably a move like this one would not happen in the end.

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An Ember with a DD takes your bounty rune as well, refreshes some of those resources.

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It's a pretty good vessel game I would say by the way for Ember.

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Like you're playing into a Queen of Pain with an eventual Bloodstone, you're playing into an IO as well.

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No heroes with massive health bars, but it's still okay.

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Even into the chaos, right, to try and inhibit some of his life steal.

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Most likely it will be the mage's lair, right? That's what we're seeing from most of these midlaners.

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Also from a lot of these carries, okay, it's getting zoned a little bit here.

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Amar is at that stage of the Bristleback lane, where he feels very confident just charging in behind the tower.

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Do they bring any heroes to try and respond to this? Indeed they do. Queen of Pain is already on the way here.

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They have to be heroes, but Maureen also thinking about an entrance, he remnanted down, they find

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Nisha, he already extended the steering chains, there was a corner, there's no safety remnant,

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Nisha doesn't know this, he doesn't want to pop the sonic wave and then just have Maureen

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remnant away, so.

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I wonder if he didn't miss the first sonic wave, would he actually have used this one,

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you know, because you don't want to be the guy that misses two sonic waves in

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in a row, let's see maybe a rune at least locks out for Nisha. They are securing the

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top rune at least with Tio.

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Great, in the meantime doing hoodwink things, going around getting some stacking going,

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ensuring that there is some massive form for the bristleback to come and collect later.

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What build do you want to see for a memoir on this one?

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A double bracer, I think a BKB is okay, like you're playing into a Lotus.

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Sorry, not into a Lotus, into a Lasso.

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It's been a long day.

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But yeah, maybe Raps as well.

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It's another option that he can go for. Raps are pretty good.

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Like as Bristleback, all you want to do is just choose yourself up as much as possible, as early as possible.

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He's one of those heroes, like it's like Titehunter and Bristle that really values the Raps a lot.

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We'll see. For now, Double Bracer Power Threads is already sitting on like 1700 HP.

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Unfortunately, they went for the move exactly when they did, because Nisha was coming bottom with the IO.

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Sadly, they will not catch up, so Bristleback will just go back and farm all of the stacks that save...

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Why am I saying save? That Crit dutifully created for him. Save is just on my mind. He impressed me so much today.

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Chris should be impressing as well in game number one had a pretty good game game number two already

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The lane itself wasn't really anything crazy, but he's made a lot of stacks already like look at the triangle

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Bristol back will be a happy boy for this. This is all given to him

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Couple of miss moves from Nisha, but he'll just go back to farming spirits

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throw knock top, they were thinking about going on Phoenix but he dives away

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and they'll give some other triangle stacks to Mal-Reen making sure that some

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of the punishments he experienced in lane. It's good recovery right like he

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played versus the Queen of Fame so some of the stacks go to him, their base be

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on the same net right now, Nisha and Mal-Reen and there's just a lot of

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potential from Team Liquid once they have relocate. For now Wisp is playing

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around the bat right but the moment you have Relo I feel like there's

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just so many options on who to play with. Like you can play maybe with a QOP and if

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Lasso happens you can relocate easily, same can be said for Kaz.

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Quick pause here. Speaking of Crit, I noticed something in the previous series that we had

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where the mid laner Void Spirit decided not to buy the Spirit Vessel, but instead one

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of the supports was the one to buy the Vessel instead. So perhaps that's going to be

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the similar thing here with Crit starting with the earn of shadows, he gets the Vessel,

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space for the ember to just go mage slayer straight into pkb. Yeah, yeah, the ember I think

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mage slayer is a much better option for him and it was not really a surprise that he's going for it.

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Techies. Ace is here as well. Techies got their disarm out onto the ember spread on the far side. First

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lasso of the game though goes towards snaking. Nowarine does have a safety remnant. He knows

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he's safe since the lasso is already done. They just have a lot of sustain on the other

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side right now and the dispel from Techies is actually very annoying the Taser versus

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Ember, he maxed out Flameguard.

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Oh, Nisha!

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Now that's on a wave, gets it directly onto Crypt.

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We can steal some of these Engines.

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With an Arcane Rune by the way as well.

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They can try, Kez is connecting, he's nearby as well, but it is dangerous, Amar.

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Comes forward here, I go Slash out from Mikkei, he's immediately porting in Malrindo

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and yeah, Amar barely suffering any damage. Tofu will get searing chain on the high ground,

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does blast off into the river. Chased through by snaking, Reactive Taser will be there in behind,

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Snae will nonetheless give the vision to grant the kill. He might take out right now to the

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Kiz damage and indeed he does. Kiz, pulling back in onto Mal'Reen, trying to parry as much as he

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can. Mal'Reen does he have a remnant? He does. He'll throw it out, going back towards the Kiz.

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Mickey might decide to try and chase him down.

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He will?

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He's actually very vulnerable right now.

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The Spirit will reveal him in the trees and he ends up dead.

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Pushwack into the Avalanche, but no!

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Relo.

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The kill cannot happen. Relocate comes through from Ekki.

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The Relocate was just on point. They got it.

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Oh!

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Come on.

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Now going forward, he might lose his life here. Very low 90 HP.

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They just beat one more tick of spell damage.

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He barely manages to retreat.

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They had blast off, but he didn't really want to commit.

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He wasn't really sure if they could get that kill or not, so in the end there's still a very good trade for liquid

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They did use the relocate, but what that means is that Batrider was at the same time farming top, top lane is pushed out

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The tier one tower is gone

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The power of IO, right? Like you can farm your lanes, get all the farm that's necessary and at the same time join fights

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And it's really important and good for liquid that Bat is having a good game

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And he's having a fantastic game, 6k in atrore, 12 minutes in, not too shabby at all, because when you look at their heroes, he's the only catch, he's more or less the only control as well, so they have to rely on Ace to do a lot of work in teamfights.

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Also just seeing the template from Maureen of how good Agathams can be, so eventually you'll get that.

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Yeah, it can help for sure.

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I am worried a little bit when it comes to the overall normal teamfight, the third teamfight that the panel was discussing for Liquid that is, if they don't have the control, the TP's out, the blinks out, just moving away from them could be a problem.

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To that end, do you need to change some of your build on the kids and try to figure the soul blade into your build?

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Down the line, perhaps, but not this early on. Amar, by the way, with the blade made.

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Where's the last time you saw Blademan?

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Like in general, maybe on an axe Nero when he was playing the Turb, but besides axe, like I just don't see the sight of him at all.

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Definitely has been a while. I mean in this game there is a lot of uncontrollable damage, right?

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That's going to be floating around the Firefly from the Back Rider.

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You can try to use it on the Sonic Wave, Raptor Dance as well, you just pop it as soon as the kid activates his ultimate.

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ultimate. Definitely has been a long long time since I've seen this item.

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Damar is still very very tanky, hasn't died just yet. Okay, I'm going to be right next to him.

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They're just saying hello. In the same way in the river, Nisha saying hello to Malrin.

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You're still chasing the crypt. Correct, we'll eat another Sonic wave. He's definitely

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going to die for this one. Ace is here as well, picking up some experience and they're definitely

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going to try and take that stack. And I know you mentioned the Vessel by the way, but SS Distiller

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also has a pretty huge value and a good case why it should be built. So Crit is going for the

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Distiller instead. Pretty good versus Kass, right? Versus everyone, but versus Kass just having some

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extra vision after he uses the Ulti, which for some reason dispels him by the way as well.

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So

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What a hero man

11:41:25.160 --> 11:41:27.160
made lane tofu

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Making some space with the bomb. They just really want to be able to take this tower

11:41:31.460 --> 11:41:34.100
Falcons trying to keep it up for as long as they humanly can

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Eventually this will go down unless they bring another hero to help defend and that's what they do

11:41:38.900 --> 11:41:40.900
snaking also makes a rotation over

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I really don't want to sound like an absolute boomer, but Marquez feels still so out of place to me

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It's like you have your normal carries with like a couple of spells and a passive and then you have Kaz

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Which like a nine spells agonist scepter as well to use all of them in tandem. It's

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It's a cool hero

11:42:05.860 --> 11:42:07.860
Absolutely fair and balanced

11:42:08.660 --> 11:42:10.660
The kids want to see action

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And then you have great King, you know

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You ask yourself why great King isn't played more

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You queue a game, you pick a great game, other guy picks Kez, or worse yet you pick Troll, they pick Kez and you're just like, well...

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Actually Troll is a good comparison because he does have two sets of spells as well. It's just that they are worthless in comparison to what Kez is bringing.

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Mid lane, blink's about to be revealed on Maury, he gets lassoed, they have the damage

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to finish him off, they do not, so he manages to get himself away, they're seeing the problems

11:42:43.520 --> 11:42:47.760
with their lack of control, snaking, there's enough mana for the supernova, we'll get

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it now, try to TP out, but we'll end up dead here.

11:42:52.000 --> 11:42:56.280
That Sunray TP out, can't really work versus a Batrider, versus most heroes it

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does, but that can actually stop it, Flamebreak, if you're moving with the Sunray

11:43:01.880 --> 11:43:06.880
it just cancels it anyway.

11:43:06.880 --> 11:43:09.800
Misha showing us yet another variation on the quap build.

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Going back to the days before the Kaia, just waiting straight for the Aghanim Scepter.

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Aghanim's with the Veil, right?

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Aghanim's Veil into the Bloodstone, which is something that we have seen quite a lot.

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We'll see what he goes for afterwards, but this is a build, and it's pretty good.

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On his IO, drop shooter from Crit will ensure that the IO does go down.

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You know as much as there was gassing up saves, hoodwink, Crit is the original hoodwink player.

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He's the person that pretty much put this hero on the map.

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Yeah, he had a... I mean, okay.

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Depends how far back you want to go.

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Because I remember a couple of other players as well that had

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No-Tail era as well when it comes to the IO, the Alliance era as well.

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as well, it comes to life. They had some pretty, pretty good heroes, players that played it, of course,

11:44:06.080 --> 11:44:11.040
but I was a bit different now, of course. Usually you don't really buy a mech very early on,

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you don't buy boots very early on, you just go for soul ring and holy lock it.

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And it kind of goes for the mid game.

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Saw a move by a team Falcon attempted, but we saw the break potential of the tofu techies

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had mines around the twin gate

11:44:27.040 --> 11:44:31.680
Alicia egg jumping forward the egg will come out will not be able to destroy it

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The piece draws out the supernova, but fails to get a sonic wave kill a toppling though

11:44:37.200 --> 11:44:43.440
Skeeter oh what an avalanche coming in from the tiny into the bush where crypt there with the sharpshooter

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That was some reaction time. They had a plan

11:44:47.360 --> 11:44:52.320
It wasn't a good one, but they had a plan because kes was also TPing in and he was

11:44:52.320 --> 11:44:58.820
ready to perhaps go in after the lasso but man the teeth just instantly react on

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the tiny very nicely done by Skeeter there we're allowed to continue forming he was

11:45:05.740 --> 11:45:09.700
under pressure obviously from the early name of the bad rider but I will have a

11:45:09.700 --> 11:45:15.500
bit more space to try and catch up had a very good game one game two as well as

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Ok, so far 5k behind, not really that great 18 minutes in, but their draft isn't really

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online just yet.

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I know the panel talked about the Phoenix and Tiny tandem, I think this combo has a

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very low win rate, but there is no reason for this exact combo to have a low win rate

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because they synergize very well.

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Like Avalanche protecting the egg, the duo in the lane is not that weak as well.

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as the game scales the tiny gets tankier and tankier the value of Sunray exactly

11:45:49.340 --> 11:45:53.780
becomes better and better try find a killer they'll break the smoke go directly

11:45:53.780 --> 11:46:01.060
onto a key I was the first one to fall crit hoodwink the classics it's gonna be

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a connection coming through from me shadow they know that there's no

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supernova coming in from snaking and they saw him Icarus died forward earlier

11:46:07.580 --> 11:46:11.860
so free kill for ace quick revenge picked up for losing their support I

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I feel like the biggest winner of all of these fights on top lane is actually the Bristleback, like Amar has kind of been forgotten.

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Like a long time ago he bought the Blade Mail, now he's actually getting closer to the Lotus as well.

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He is playing into the lasso of course, so Lotus isn't that bad at all.

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And the Dispel versus Queen of Pain.

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I would say maybe it's even more important to get the spells versus Qop.

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This hero just shouldn't be allowed to spam Shadow Strike and just destroy your whole team with it

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You like the SMY as well coming from the BB?

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Eventually, yes. It's like a casual build up on the Bristleback just tanks you up

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It's gonna be a veil now, hit up for Malrin. He has finished it

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And they've got a supernova back online

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So we could see a play coming in through Malrin and they will find Nisha.

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Wushrak will be there, Sharpshooter comes out.

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However, he is chillin', still very, very healthy, so he just jumps himself away.

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The shield drone, right? Like, by the time they got through the shield drone,

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he was already able to blink away.

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And he has a DD, by the way.

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So maybe there's a play coming from Liquid with it, maybe after the tourney.

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Can they do all this?

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I was about to ask you that same question.

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and it seems like the octopus may be here.

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The retec is about just the two heroes that look like them.

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The way of Tofu, it's okay.

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Get themselves some mutually assured destruction.

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May accidentally detonate.

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Just an accident, you know what happens from time to time?

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Playing with bombs is dangerous work.

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We already do see the otofu as much as possible whenever they're moving around the map with

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his team.

11:48:02.460 --> 11:48:06.180
Just planting down these bombs, coming so annoying, breaking these engagements before

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they start scouting where the Falcons are moving.

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Now they're moving from the mid lane right now.

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Maybe they'll run into some mines but I don't see any around mid.

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You'll come across Ekki, perhaps.

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He's a good kill.

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I think if they can find the Io kill anyway.

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It's a quick kill, that's why.

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Bat might counterplay this though.

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I might.

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He just picked up a BKB as well, so this could be a turnaround, but they need KS

11:48:38.900 --> 11:48:39.900
to be much closer.

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He threw out the squished out, as soon as he did that ace, put out the lasso onto

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but at the same time on the back edge of the fight look at this Nisha dying to

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Skeena who showed up out of nowhere to reveal the Silverage now Malrin feeling

11:48:54.240 --> 11:48:57.680
very confident about diving forward with the help of Amar it's going to be ace

11:48:57.680 --> 11:49:04.400
forced to pop his BKB just to run back into the base Falcons although there is a

11:49:04.400 --> 11:49:08.260
lot of pressure seemingly that could be applied by Team Liquid it's all coming

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from Falcons at the moment. Even with the 5k lead it didn't really matter

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at all if they could find the right targets and they did quap without the

11:49:15.040 --> 11:49:20.840
The shield drone of course falls very quickly to the tiny couple of good plays and right

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now from Liquid I'm not really seeing the global potential that this IO usually brings.

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They haven't really utilized it, there are no moves where you're playing on one side

11:49:31.760 --> 11:49:35.440
of the map with your carry and then relocating on the other which they did start doing

11:49:35.440 --> 11:49:36.440
now to be fair.

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They have to wait for the last one to come up, 15 seconds for ace.

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Maybe the BKB as well. He doesn't have the BKB on that.

11:49:49.560 --> 11:49:54.560
45 seconds that he has to wait. They're really gonna go into the Roshan pit right now.

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Looks that way. Valkyries. Do not know that this is happening.

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They had all their vision removed from this area.

11:50:01.560 --> 11:50:05.560
They have Overcharge, they have Amp damage as well, from Equilibrium.

11:50:05.560 --> 11:50:11.560
Caz with the Denso as well hits real hard and it looks like they will get Rosh for free.

11:50:13.560 --> 11:50:17.000
The Balkans probably think they're being ganked right now but that is not the case.

11:50:17.000 --> 11:50:18.840
They're moving, they're moving towards it.

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But look at the mines, just absolute zoning.

11:50:24.120 --> 11:50:25.720
Okay, first aid just to team Liquid.

11:50:26.840 --> 11:50:28.440
Balkans just have to watch Nisha.

11:50:28.440 --> 11:50:32.280
I'm glad that they gave it to Nisha, so that he can just play more gung-ho,

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since he's the one with the axe and the Bloodstone right now.

11:50:36.440 --> 11:50:38.280
Yeah, I mean he has Bloodstone too.

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It's a tanky quap, 3K HP, but okay.

11:50:43.560 --> 11:50:51.840
Skeeter gonna get oh what a silver edge no reveal available for this base this

11:50:51.840 --> 11:50:56.800
Batrider from ace so man Skeeter's reaction time in this game has been

11:50:56.800 --> 11:51:00.600
pretty good that's the second time he just completely ducked out what he did

11:51:00.600 --> 11:51:03.200
being gone on

11:51:03.200 --> 11:51:11.520
Real or bottom? Okay, can we find anybody?

11:51:11.520 --> 11:51:15.480
Last group, it will be doubled up because of this Lotus Orva with the Raptor Dove, perhaps

11:51:15.480 --> 11:51:17.400
they have the damage, not just yet.

11:51:17.400 --> 11:51:22.400
Amar is still alive, activates the Blade Mail, but eventually he will be burning down.

11:51:22.400 --> 11:51:26.000
On the other side in the river, Nisha gets found by snaking and Skeeter, can they

11:51:26.000 --> 11:51:28.240
bring him down before he blinks away? Yes.

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Now read, make sure with the Searing Janes, no BKB available on the niche of QWAMP.

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Maybe Snaking might die for this though.

11:51:36.540 --> 11:51:37.640
It seems like he will.

11:51:37.640 --> 11:51:39.140
He has no mana for Diagon.

11:51:39.140 --> 11:51:42.740
It's probably a bad egg usage here if he had it anyway.

11:51:43.540 --> 11:51:48.040
So they trade two foreign ages, not too great for Falcons.

11:51:49.340 --> 11:51:50.740
And you could see Gryslback.

11:51:50.740 --> 11:51:55.240
This hero is usually, or at least usually feels very tanky.

11:51:55.240 --> 11:52:00.740
But when you're playing versus the IO Amped up Kaz, he just absolutely melted.

11:52:01.940 --> 11:52:05.340
He's gonna change his mind though from the SMY, just go straight into the DKB.

11:52:05.940 --> 11:52:08.340
He's changing his mind a lot by the way.

11:52:08.340 --> 11:52:18.240
Whenever I click Bristleback, he has a different build, and that basically tells me that Omar isn't really confident in what he needs for this game.

11:52:18.540 --> 11:52:24.440
Because this is a sort of a player that will literally always go for the same build if he thinks that it's broken.

11:52:24.440 --> 11:52:28.760
We've seen his doom radiance one game after another

11:52:30.440 --> 11:52:33.200
He even had wraps just a moment to go by the way queued up

11:52:34.360 --> 11:52:36.560
See what he decides to eventually come into

11:52:37.240 --> 11:52:41.720
Second bloodstone of the game will come out from ember. Why don't we see more bloodstone on ember actually?

11:52:42.680 --> 11:52:44.680
We see it every now and then right

11:52:45.400 --> 11:52:52.280
It's not like every single game, but it's not super uncommon. It's still a good item on him the spell weakness or I'll of course is

11:52:52.280 --> 11:53:03.620
not too bad at all. He's also constantly in the range of heroes, so applying the aura

11:53:03.620 --> 11:53:09.180
is nice. There's something to be said about the act of being removed, being like maybe

11:53:09.180 --> 11:53:13.780
a nerf to the item as well, when you think about it.

11:53:13.780 --> 11:53:20.540
Sneaking, gets lassoed, straight forward kill. A lot of vision was granted of course

11:53:20.540 --> 11:53:26.860
by tofu's mines or the inflammation rather. This must be so annoying for a hero like Phoenix.

11:53:29.580 --> 11:53:33.820
He's going for pipe here just to alleviate some of this pain from magic damage that's coming from

11:53:33.820 --> 11:53:43.420
the other side. It's a 9k gold lead. That's one thing I've noticed about today's games.

11:53:43.420 --> 11:53:47.740
Things will be relatively even. Then like two skirmishes will go by that gold lead will

11:53:47.740 --> 11:53:49.180
Double or triple at that point.

11:53:49.180 --> 11:53:50.380
BKB, that.

11:53:50.380 --> 11:53:52.380
Pops BKB, going on to Crit.

11:53:52.380 --> 11:53:54.140
Crit my Tidal Shrop, shoot her into the river,

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but it's not going to be enough.

11:53:55.340 --> 11:53:57.340
Ekky even came through with the relocate.

11:53:57.340 --> 11:53:59.340
Maureen.

11:53:59.340 --> 11:54:01.980
Could get lassoed, but they don't really have the damage

11:54:01.980 --> 11:54:02.940
behind the back.

11:54:02.940 --> 11:54:03.980
Kaila, Kaila, with the back.

11:54:03.980 --> 11:54:05.340
You know, Payne though, she's in the back.

11:54:05.340 --> 11:54:06.940
It's just backed by Skeeter.

11:54:06.940 --> 11:54:08.540
She's throwing out these Shadow Stracks.

11:54:08.540 --> 11:54:10.140
Trying to get as much damage in the fight as possible.

11:54:10.140 --> 11:54:12.780
Sonic Wave will push back Skeeter towards where Mikke is.

11:54:12.780 --> 11:54:14.780
Mikke rushes down the Tiny.

11:54:14.780 --> 11:54:17.180
They aren't able to get the kill on Skeeter.

11:54:17.180 --> 11:54:25.680
That was a really heads-up play by Nisha once again, and once again he's got Shield Rune, like he has Shield Rune on command.

11:54:25.680 --> 11:54:30.540
He presses a button and he gets the Shield Rune, which enables him to make these kind of plays.

11:54:30.540 --> 11:54:36.660
Like usually you cannot really jump the Tiny, but he jumps in and pushes him back towards Kes with the Sonic Queen.

11:54:36.660 --> 11:54:40.680
Just when you're dead, thank you, you can do whatever you want to.

11:54:42.180 --> 11:54:44.180
Nisha just having an excellent game so far.

11:54:44.180 --> 11:54:50.320
doing the Lord's work and that was also some additional desol stacks we picked up by the

11:54:50.320 --> 11:54:58.160
kids. Definitely will prove to be problematic later. Tiny will not enjoy like a 20 desol

11:54:58.160 --> 11:55:03.520
charge wrapped with odds in his face. Yeah, not really a hero that has a lot of armor

11:55:03.520 --> 11:55:10.920
in general, but he'll be fine. Maybe an AC eventually with a Bristol back. Something

11:55:10.920 --> 11:55:17.520
that they can think about. Even AC Tiny isn't really that insane. We've seen it in a couple

11:55:17.520 --> 11:55:25.760
of games, so definitely can itemize for it. I love that Ekki has a BKB queued up and a

11:55:25.760 --> 11:55:30.840
heart after on the IO. You know, you gotta think big.

11:55:30.840 --> 11:55:37.040
Why don't you just buy Midas first? To make sure you get to the Midas.

11:55:37.040 --> 11:55:44.040
It's crits, just take down this hoodwink, very straight forward kill for the kes, another death on Sarge

11:55:44.040 --> 11:55:54.040
If it was snaking maybe he'd go for the Midas, but I've seen a couple of builds in IO, one of them is like this

11:55:54.040 --> 11:56:01.040
where you're just going for all the heals, you have healing, you have Holy Locket and you're just trying to

11:56:01.040 --> 11:56:07.540
Maybe after I get some sort of a mech, heart as well works very similarly because of the built-in region that you get from it.

11:56:08.340 --> 11:56:10.540
Or you're just rushing agonim scepter.

11:56:10.540 --> 11:56:13.540
I have to say that I'm leaning towards the agonim's rush.

11:56:13.540 --> 11:56:20.840
It's a bit more of a fun way to play IO, but at the same time you are griefing your teammates.

11:56:20.840 --> 11:56:24.140
Well, he doesn't agree. He queues it up immediately after the heart.

11:56:24.140 --> 11:56:27.340
Okay, but this is like a fourth item. This is fine.

11:56:27.340 --> 11:56:33.540
You need to come back with this IO because Valken's on the chase looking toward Mikkei

11:56:33.540 --> 11:56:34.540
and Ace.

11:56:34.540 --> 11:56:35.540
Oh my goodness, Snakey!

11:56:35.540 --> 11:56:38.540
He's going to die before he can even think about popping the supernova.

11:56:38.540 --> 11:56:41.100
Look at the damage from Mikkei on Crit as well.

11:56:41.100 --> 11:56:42.980
Two supports both down in the blink of an eye.

11:56:42.980 --> 11:56:46.060
Malray goes to BKB, but it's not going to matter.

11:56:46.060 --> 11:56:48.940
During the sonic wave pushback, the raptor dons his active.

11:56:48.940 --> 11:56:49.940
He gets torn to shreds.

11:56:49.940 --> 11:56:52.940
We do lose the Batrider for this though.

11:56:52.940 --> 11:56:57.140
Ekky pops BKB rushing forward with his bird to get vision.

11:56:57.140 --> 11:57:01.940
do start to back off and they port back on the phoenix so supernova be reintroduced

11:57:01.940 --> 11:57:06.220
team liquid might want to leave they're trying to find an angle but binds everywhere

11:57:06.220 --> 11:57:10.060
because I mean mines you know try to go in onto the kids but the kids is still

11:57:10.060 --> 11:57:13.660
standing me show on the backside of the fight doing a lot of magic damage in

11:57:13.660 --> 11:57:17.380
his own right still alive with the bloodstone healing and wiped up

11:57:17.380 --> 11:57:21.500
falcons are the ones that need to run but you can't run from IO queen of

11:57:21.500 --> 11:57:26.420
pain and a chance the chase down of team liquid is immaculate as they

11:57:26.420 --> 11:57:29.620
Get a dieback on Snake King and a death on the Skeeter Tiny.

11:57:31.220 --> 11:57:34.120
Relocate as well to the base to reset the kez,

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just a free back to the fountain and they can reset, perhaps take down tier 2 mid, tier 2 bottom.

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It's all opened up, Teckys is just planting mines everywhere and the damage from Liquid.

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I was worried that they might not have what it takes in teamfights because of only lasso being their control.

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But when you kill heroes in a matter of seconds if you don't need more

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Actually coming towards a mara okay sweeping over Nisha getting the vision there we go grappling claw forward

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They hit him with the echo slash how much damage can they do before it gets back in the base all of it because Nisha

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knocks him back with a sonic wave

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Another combo between the Queen of Pain and Kiz

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And this is before he even gets the Silveridge.

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Okay, he changes mines. I'm gonna go for the straight Daedalus instead.

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I don't make it.

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Silveridge is also good, but I feel like even when they're hitting Bristleback from behind,

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they're still doing enough damage to take him down.

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The Blade Mill at least did work versus Tekkiz, I guess.

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It's silver lining for Amar.

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Not what you were expecting to see if you're on the side of Team Falcons.

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Hawkins here. The 16k gold deficit for them. A tier 2 tower lost in the mid lane.

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Tier 2 tower gone bottom. It's kind of a reason not to just sweep top and take the

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next one. Supernova. Oh no, Mal-reen! Mal-reen! Oh no! He remnanted to where he

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thought it was safe but it turns out there's a chance waiting for him.

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Raptor Veo popped. They jump after him. Miike with the wicked six streak.

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Look at Misha. Happy to just dive inside the base with the haste.

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Let's go crazy guys, they can't pull the fight against us.

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There we go. That's what I want to hear from my IO player.

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Just go ham, go crazy. He's topping up the cares in Misha.

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They don't even have an Aegis but ways to take a lane of racks.

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48 seconds no ember is a very long time.

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He does have a buyback but they scouted the Tiny not being in the base as well.

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They know that he is unable to join the teammates.

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This is what happens when you give one of the best Caz clears of the tournament Caz.

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It feels like initiation.

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Sonic Wave from Nisha, they've already brought down both of those supports.

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Crit and Snake Incid do nothing here.

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Mikae parrying the damage coming in from a mar.

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Activate the PKB on the IO.

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Mikae being able to hold onto his own one.

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Crit buying back instantly.

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But he just brought back and Liquid say,

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cool, we still got the lane of Raxan, we just walk away.

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I can actually go take the Aegis in 20 seconds.

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These heroes are just belt.

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Aghanim's screen of pain with the Sheevahs, with the Bloodstone, the Spell, or just overall damage I'm from the IO.

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He's constantly... there's another thing.

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He bought the BKB and there isn't really any damage being dished into the IO,

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which is making the hero even stronger.

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A bit weaker when it comes to the heals.

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Skidder.

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Amar gets himself killed off by Mikke and the topside of the map and they're jumping in for more.

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Look at Skeeter, Skeeter's dying, Skeeter's just dead, kids!

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With the help of Ekky, just demolish him and he just waits for the remnant, this is the second time that he's done this

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and yet again he's gonna put in a lot of punishment on Malreen.

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Malreen able to get inside the base but the chase down is coming, grappling claw forward,

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Malreen, can you get off one more remnant? No, he cannot, he dies as a maw, respawns.

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Nikkei though, not afraid of this Gristleback whatsoever, easily able to grapple closeouts, Ace just Fireflies through the river, everybody's fine on Liquid.

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He's bringing QOP by the way, I'm pretty sure he's going to bring the QOP into the enemy base, like there is nothing to be afraid of any longer, if they want to go for the tier 3 they definitely can, and yeah, Queen of Pain starts sitting, they just went for the wave basically, 6k damage, like usually it's the Queen of Pain that trumps absolutely everything, and everyone in the game.

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when it comes to the damage output, but they're playing with the quaff and the kez.

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Vaso, notice, on the bristos, we'll hold ace in position, we'll get a lot of damage from the summary,

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but now we just opens up the chance for Miki and Nisha to jump on the snaking.

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Well the game's about to end, can we have a damage check before everything is said and done?

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Because I don't think this game is gonna last much longer.

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Yep, the numbers, you know, they're not as high as you usually expect them to be,

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because these heroes are still dying very quickly, so you can't ramp up the numbers,

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Unfortunately for Nisha there will be no record-breaking numbers here, but it's still good enough.

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The shard as well by the way from QWOP, like when's the last time you saw a good egg?

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Like he's just unable to use it, he gets blown up every single time.

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He gets silenced either by Kez or by the QWOP.

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Have we seen an egg at all this game?

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There was, there were a couple, but they died very quickly.

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So we haven't seen the A actually go off, and stun heroes.

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I- Maybe there was one. I can't remember. Every single egg that I remember died.

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Straight to 1,000. Now Rene, trying to interrupt this Roshan attempt, they see the Role.

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Unfortunately, Nekke is already on the high ground, searching for his next target.

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Last of all, thrown out onto snaking.

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Dude, guys, they don't play the game!

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I think they took that triple silence really personally at the end of game one, because they keep punishing snake.

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Nikkei now, right in front of Amar, gonna ignore him for the moment, go to the back lines, find

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Chris, bring him down as well with one spell.

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Sonic Wave pushing back Skeeter.

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Skeeter needs to run with his BKB actor, Malrin, completely do anything.

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And they just keep chasing the Tiny in the meantime, Tofu, he might be the only one

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caught out here.

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Stuck in between two heroes and Falcons, he will die, but will these heroes be able

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to escape?

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Bristleback is the first one out, he's gonna make it.

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Malrin not gonna be so lucky, remnants are expanded, there's no BKB, there's no TP, there's no survivability.

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Nisha, beyond God like 14, 2 and 10 on the quad.

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50 seconds without the tiny, they don't even have to go into the pit.

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This game, you know how it feels to me. It feels like some 2026 Dota meeting 2014 Dota.

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One team is just everywhere, they have bazillion spells, the damage output is insane.

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And on the other, you have a blade mill at least.

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Yeah, supernova. Is it gonna at least go out? No.

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They destroy it, could it a case, wrap the guns onto Amar, he's dead as well.

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On the far side they lose crit bybacks on Malrin and on the bristleback of Amar.

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But to what end? These heroes are still so tanky.

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Nisha still has 2000 HP left, he just jumps onto Malrin, forcing him to retreat.

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Amar at least looking to try and bring down Ekky.

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What difference is it going to make when you have a chev next to you dishing out so much damage

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you can't even begin to threaten the IO.

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Time to wrap it up.

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GG well played, it's got 37 minutes with a 41k gold lead.

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We are going to a game three.

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GG well played by both of these teams.

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I feel like there was a little bit of a drafting difference.

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Not only are you giving cash away, but you're giving cash away to one of the

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best guest players in the world at the moment. It tends to look this way.

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Looking dark right now for Team Falcons, we're going to send it back to the panel to analyze

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what they need to change in their approach before they enter into game three.

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Well, the draft is a good place to start, but I'd rather first talk about what happened in

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this game because this was exactly what I was promised. I was promised action with

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Eki on the IO, I was promised a high tempo from Liquid and Tiga, by God, the tempo was set.

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Yeah, I mean, when Eki's not playing an initiator, you hear him on an IO,

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he's going to grab someone else, no, you're coming with me, we're going to go find the kills,

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and it was so aggressive. The IO, backrider lane, Techie's coming through the twin gate,

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applying so much pressure in the early game, sure, there's a couple moments where, you know,

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Sonic Wave gets missed, you know, Lassos don't need to kill, but just the mentality of Liquid

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what we are living on the enemy side of the river.

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This is our home now, we keep killing you.

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That is it, that is the game, done.

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Yeah, they start very strong on the side lanes.

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Both of the side lanes did win, especially the top lane.

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Like they were diving pretty heavily,

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twin gate rotations from techies to try to outnumber the top.

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You could see that Falcons at one point, they were desperate.

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Like can somebody help us out?

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Like we need somebody.

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Russell back is not that type of a hero who's going to be

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keeping in and responding to anything that happens. He's a type of a hero that likes to have action in his lane

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Or he's like moving to the other side and making sure that the action is happening

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But he's not very good at counter-reacting to what enemy is doing and Tim Liquid

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They have a trap that just says we want to go in like we are in we have no cooldown whatsoever

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So we can keep fighting all the time. Yeah, it's a battle of like who can win new lanes, right?

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Like after game one with freezing falcons, you know the dawn break of beating there's a prophet putting you on the back foot

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think about the mid lane. This time around, Liquid, they win the lanes, they're doing everything that

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we said to Falcons, they did in game two. It really is just a matter of like, you need to respect

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the first like eight minutes of the game, because both of these teams have the caliber to completely

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run away with the game, if they don't go, you know, at least somewhat checked in that laning phase.

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And it was only one little change up in the draft from first game to second game that allowed

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for Liquid to have this kind of, kind of game. And Mikkei not dying a single time,

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Yeah, I know most people didn't say well surely Mickey is the MVP now wrong wrong

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It was not the MVP. Well, we'll reveal in a second. I think we spoil it now. I'm very good at this

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I'm very good at this

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Yeah, yeah, I mean he he owned he was paired up with the battery

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He was paired up with kids whenever he needed to he was pretty much involved in a lot of early kills as well

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and also played for himself which are really like

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18,000 healing coming out from him and also itemization hold lock it BKB and then went for agonim scepter

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Or we could call it the AKB because almost

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Back to your favorite

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It's all good. Um, we saw some, some fantastic. This was fun. I know it was a one sided game,

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but just like the previous game, it was just very entertaining to watch. And, uh, there

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were a couple of differences, not previous game, but it focused a lot on the offside.

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And I think we're going to do the same thing right here, Tito.

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Yeah, we are because I think, uh, Falcons already saw the writing on the wall, right?

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A mark going for the blade mail in the hope to frontline. Of course, Ace had the

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boots of bearing and blink dagger at the 16 minute mark it was just like incredible timing

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like there's just a major disparity in what these heroes can do again credit the falcons they were

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able to navigate a little bit of ace's aggression after he picked up the blink dagger and by surviving

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the mid lane even getting a couple kills and falcons due to ace looking for the fight but

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it didn't change the script of the game you know like a bristleback going for blade mail if we

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look at previous games he was going for like double brazen soul ring dkb like i am the front

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He was playing like most like I hope to get a kill and he wasn't playing now even in the last dying minutes of the game

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liquid just went

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Don't hit him. Just don't hit him. Look at the guy BKB's

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It's also like a good idea because he's playing against techies. So maybe you know, I'm so fun

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I love that change. Yeah, that's probably one of the best changes that we've seen against a guy

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They should have worked 15 years ago when that he was a real menace to deal with but it's never too late

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never too late and the most fights went the way of team liquid the one we're

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gonna rewatch also went the way of team liquid why is this the one you wanted to

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highlight yeah it's just the angle that they try to wrap around the try to find

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something and immediately like what they recognize that these two supports as

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long as we can take them out you can see Mickey during the BKB time he

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immediately walks onto one target because they're not afraid to drop the

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spells you know that there's gonna be a buybacks coming out from Falcons

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It's still not enough like the chase potential is through the roof on their side because you have IO plus Mickey

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They can easily like crap and claw on the trees

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You know pain one of the best chasing heroes in the game and they're trying to fight for like another round

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They're trying to make something happen, but every single time skater. He's under the vision like they had so many centuries put down

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So without a blink

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He doesn't feel too comfortable coming into the fight and you can see the lack of damage coming out during the BKB timing

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If he's not allowed to one shot a hero, he doesn't feel too comfortable.

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They lack some lockdown.

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They lost their Embers through it relatively early on.

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So quite a different and more difficult fight coming up from Palkens.

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And the first loss for Skeeter Steini, so far he's been five and zero.

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And this is the first loss.

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There's also the undefeated Io-Tecchi's combination for Liquid right now,

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three and zero as a support duo.

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And it kind of makes sense the way that Techies came through the Twin Gate,

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the aggression of Io plus Offlaner.

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It's pretty scary.

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Yeah, often times there's a hero of the series as well, and this one, I feel like maybe we should talk more about this Batrider.

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Previous game, in game one we saw Mal'Reen on it from the mid lane, set the high tempo with himself.

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We saw Ace do the same thing from the offlane with the Batrider, and higher priority because it was first phase pick now.

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I think the main thing though for Liquid is when they lose games, often you can look towards Ace not getting utilised in the early game.

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Yes, he's a greedy offlaner, but you also want to utilize him.

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You want to activate him through aggression or fight or something.

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And I feel like I remember like in previous tournaments,

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they'd lose a game and the discussion they had was,

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guys, we're just ignoring him.

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You pick Batrider, you want to go to his lane,

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you want to get kills, you want to make moves happen,

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and then Mickey can bring a fourth hero to the mix

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and make it even scarier, even maybe the Queen of Pain.

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So I feel like Liquid, when they are at their best in speed of play,

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Ace is integrated a little bit more

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rather than leaving him on the side of the pangaloo.

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Okay, well we're going to find out what they're going to do with the Bat Rider in the next

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game.

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We are back with ask the experts today.

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We have Lacoste.

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What are you going to be sharing with us today?

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We're going to be talking about the five most important buildings on Dota map.

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Okay, let's start with number five, the least important.

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The building called the building, which is on both sides of Radiant and Dyer, the one

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slightly closer to the northeast.

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I like that one in particular.

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Okay, okay, so the ones that used to be the shrines when you went uphill.

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Yeah, the Ziggurat shrines, moon wells, yada yada.

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It's called building.

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Now these are kind of important.

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The creeps do hit them instead of towers sometimes.

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Yes, but not as important.

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It's like close to FG, which is on fourth place.

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Okay.

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But FG.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So the FG is the fourth place.

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Yes.

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Also very important building to kill.

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It's like when you kill it, it's like you killed the player as well.

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All right.

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Cool.

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Number three.

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Number three.

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We're going to go with radiant melee barracks, the one on the left.

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Yeah.

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This one is like especially important because it is on the left side.

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Okay.

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Which, you know, players typically will go with what they're going to do.

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Yeah, it depends whether you're left-handed or right-handed.

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So like most of the people are right-handed.

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So the one on the left side makes definitely more sense.

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Of course. It's the one that typically will do last.

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Yeah.

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So it's the most important for mega creeps.

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Absolutely.

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Very, very true.

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Now with that, what's number two?

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Number two is gonna be the radiant...

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actually, dire mid-tier one tower.

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Dired mid-tier one tower.

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Can you explain that?

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It is very important because it is the first tower

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that you need to kill when you're playing radiant

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to be able to kill other towers in the mid lane.

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I see.

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And it opens up the jungle.

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Absolutely.

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All right.

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And number one, the most important building on the Dota

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tour map.

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The most important, it is going to be ancient.

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This is going to be the realest answer.

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Yeah, if you lose this one, you actually lose the game.

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All right.

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Well, thank you so much.

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An incredible analytical job there.

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Watch those buildings, my friends.

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Protect them.

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Let's see if Falcons or Liquid defend the most important building in Dota 2, the best,

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the ancient.

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Will Falcons defend it?

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Will Liquid defend it?

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Whoever doesn't, goes home.

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They get left behind on 4th place because this is the final series of today.

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ever wins here will be top three here guaranteed PJ Wallachia season eight and will play against

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Aurora tomorrow morning and it's one one both teams with a win under their name both teams

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doing it in a very, very good fashion, very solid. So what was the main difference maker?

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Why was there such a big difference between the two games that we saw?

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Well, I think something that Blitz talked about yesterday because he was asked about

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like the why are we seeing so many of these games that are one-sided and he

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said about like the first big second pick as well like whoever like you might

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have a bad read on something that isn't as good as you think like you make a

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mistake and that mistake looks like it's pretty massive so the trade that

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they got the shirt you got tiny but I also think the biggest issue in this

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game is allowing them to get the hands on kids it's just too good of a

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matchup against tiny it feels very natural for him to go in especially

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If he has some kind of a healing behind him, you pop the Holy Locket, you heal for the insane amount of damage,

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and then it allows him to use the Alti, Chase potential is definitely there,

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and the stacking damage, you're reducing his spell damage output, and you're also reducing his armor.

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So this combination between the two items, we are seeing it with more heroes,

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that's why Monkey King is so popular, Mage Slayer plus the Desolator, same thing can apply,

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like they did ban Monkey, but didn't ban Kev, so I want to see if this is going to be addressed.

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I also want to just go back to my previous statement about the offlaners, right?

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I think in game one they utilised Dawnbreaker nicely,

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game two they utilised Batrider nicely, right?

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The Dawnbreaker team wins, the Batrider team wins.

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I think the offlaners created so much kind of tempo through them calling for their team to be

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doing stuff, that coming into this game, like you mentioned with the Kez, being able to be

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out the first will be super annoying, the same argument as well could be applying elsewhere.

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So yeah, I'm really looking at the offlaners of both teams trying to secure themselves

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the game. That's how we find a competitive game 3. Well for the third time in a row the pick order

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is exactly the same where we have Team Liquid with first pick and overall last pick therefore for

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Falcons in second pick. The side switches though. So far we've had both teams play one game from

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Radiant, one game from Dire and I believe both times Radiant won. Is that something we should

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be thinking about or not? Is that just the happenstance? It just has a I believe a higher

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win rate in general throughout this event. Okay well with that in mind we are focusing

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on the bounds and see if there's any change in that department and so far no. The same two

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bounds from Liquid the only flare change we had so far was the third bound that Liquid did

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in the first game that was Bristol in the second that was Pango so that was a bit of a

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change up and for Falcons, they have not changed it up once. The Beastmaster and the Windranger

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were the other two bands that were coming out still next to the Alchemist. I'm sorry,

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the Lunderude and the Slaughter. I just think Kaz has to go. It has too many good things that

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he's doing in the game right now. It is a hero that secures you the lane. It's a hero that

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can put the tempo from the safe lane, a lot of tempo to slow down your off-laner as well.

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And also, Hero that, I feel like it needs to be removed because you don't have a Kez player on the team, like that's, they could maybe take it on 13 if they feel like, you know, we're not gonna ban it out, they're not gonna go with the first pick Kez, so maybe you have advantage there.

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But Falcons, they're not a Kez team.

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So that's the thing that's like, there's Kez that you're talking about, but then there's

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still the Bat Rider, there's a Beastmaster, there's the IO, there's a lot of options

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that you can also entertain as pretty decent bands.

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You know, we saw how Aurora, they have a puck game, they promoted the first bit.

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Falcons, they banned the Beast, and I think for me at least the Windranger band that

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Falcons have been doing in both games, that could be the band that they changed

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for a Bat, a Kez, an IO, if they are to change it, that is.

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falcons are one of the teams that often will say no we want to beat it we can't

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beat it they do ban out my case and now for liquid they have pretty much a swapped

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one investment ban of wind ranger for the investment ban of the case that

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the cost of talking about and that's on liquid to decide do you want to repeat

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the same draft pattern or do you have higher priority elsewhere well such high

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priority does a wind ranger not have that's English

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The windranger doesn't have such a high pick priority, does it?

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No, it pretty much a liquid pick in Batrider like they did, or are they promoting Iron?

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That was kind of like, at least what I would be sitting with the two heroes.

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What's the trade off here?

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Like what are they getting after seeing the Batrider now that Kez is out?

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Not sure if they also want to be running the Windranger, which is good in the lane against Batrider because you don't get to die, but this is a good trade.

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I like this. It's a hero that you know that Batrider is going to be playing into.

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I mean, you max Arcane Curse, you throw it onto Bat, he's persistent, he kind of gets annoyed, at least in the laning phase that the game progresses.

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That with the speed of your initiation by a time that you've lasted someone sometimes science

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There is globuling on top of the last row rather than preemptively, but yeah falcons

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Sometimes was banned out in the second phase by liquid that is what they have put their respect on they've you put that very quickly here

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Yeah for the third game in the row. We still will have the tight hunter band in the second phase

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We'll see which other one they wanted to ban there previously. It was another offline or in the doom

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But I don't know if they still wanted to do that Falcon just need to be aware of as we spoke to great lengths about the bat right in

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The previous draft eckey happily playing it

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No ace is the like an off-lane player as well

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He will happily take it if there is a world where the safe phase weak

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There is no way to build with summons you need to always think about that on pick 18

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If we could kind of draft in that way to to give ace priority that such a good

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Overall pick against some of these weaker heroes who can't really protect themselves

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there is a way to draft around it.

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I mean, they're banning out that Hunter.

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This is one of the better protection where you can just hug him,

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knowing that he can throw his shard on top of him,

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slow him down, anchor smash.

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And of course, the ultimate ravage,

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which would reset the fight,

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allow you to have like something on top of it.

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But yeah, hoodwinks, rubrics, they're still available.

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Want to see it,

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because liquid show that they can play rubic five,

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position four, whatever it is necessary.

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and the removal of this Viper is also a pretty big deal.

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I mean, a Mars hero pool is very interesting

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because it is anti-carry in a lot of the ways,

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especially heroes that he started to pick up

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at the later stages of the tournament,

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picking up this Viper, picking up this Doom as well,

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and also Timbersaw in some of the games.

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Because this is the burst damage

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that maybe even forcing a BKB out of the enemy carry

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when you jump on top of them with the first round of spells

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doesn't feel him too comfortable coming into the fight.

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And they still ban the Wind Ranger, again, the Hero that they respected already, and taking

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the Tiny.

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So Skidder, we know his Hero.

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Also it's kind of a soft cover to that potential like that we're talking about.

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You can stand in front of your tower if, you know, the science can hold the Tiny's hand

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and they can get through the lane together.

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So they got basically Silencer instead of a Phoenix, and other than that the draft

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is very similar from previous game and how it's been going so far.

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At this point, Liquid did go for the IO already in the previous game.

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Yeah, there is an argument Liquid could still go for it.

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Of course, Global into the IO can be a bit annoying, but the style of play Liquid has.

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If you're already in the fight, if you're pumping out the heals, getting Locky, Axe,

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BKB, I don't think the IO cares too much about the silencer.

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But for now they want to take the Queen of Pain.

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They kind of snatch it before Falcons find.

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I don't know.

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Something about this hero.

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see this hero and I feel like the draft on that side is better by just look like

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you have damage you're always gonna have scaling pushing high ground against

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this hero even in a losing game you're 10 15 K go down it doesn't feel as bad and

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also the build you're playing against silencer you want to be getting a

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dispel on your own Lotus or this is something that he did the other day as

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well and felt like really good and then maybe someone else can also pick up

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something to help you out, some Lotus coming up from a position 4 or 5, and then you're

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kind of covered.

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So the one way to play against Sallancer is not to give him too much opportunities early

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on to get the kills with the Global Sallancers, bring in extra numbers, and then the hero

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falls off, but we've also seen Falcons in game number one, where they're playing

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very farm-oriented, picking up head of Midas, knowing that the game is going to go late.

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Yeah, and of course Queen of Pain can still be played by Mikkei, they have done so before, so I flexed potentials there.

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Oracle comes out as well, we've seen that be good in the hands of Tofu, although it's been raised as one and two, not the greatest, but we've seen it be very good either way.

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I mean even just the idea of tiny's damage, it falls off later into the game, Oracle can just keep that survivability.

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I'm mainly referencing the night full tiny game when he played into BB's Oracle, that was like, I think Oracle did as much healing as the tiny even did damage.

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It was pretty close in that regard.

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I got to say, I really enjoy the draft change from both of these teams, right?

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Silence of going to the first phase, tiny of course, of Falcons,

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and then Liquid identifying that Amar most likely doesn't want to pick his hero in the 16-17 slot,

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therefore taking the Queen of Pain on 14 prevents Falcons from just kind of auto-picking heroes

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to getting to the what does Amar want to play.

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And it's like in game two that wasn't a read that was had,

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So it really is just respecting the the change package still available. It's not

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It's not like when you think about Malrin. It's not his like a giga hero by any means

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He plays it doesn't have the best win rate compared to other heroes

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But against co-op it's a really nice way because you can like break the coil with multiple abilities

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It allows you to have multiple heroes that does go in multiple silences as well

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Makes the game easier and there's no stunts on set of liquid

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There's like one lasso, but that's about it. Then you have good ways of protecting

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Early doom. All right, so they do take the hero. They do take the Amar hero

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And that they are taking tiny just a little bit further down the line in regards to draft

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I think pot for sure will be a good hero for falcons if it's available on 24

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They just want to delete the hero and when we say Queen of Pain looks good in any draft

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I think Amano has one drop this entire game.

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Just doom the queen of pain.

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Nothing else.

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And we are going to get the team Liquid Monkey King.

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They are the Monkey King team.

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Especially with Oracle.

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It does allow you to keep jumping out of the fights as well.

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And it's also very early game oriented hero.

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Against Doom, against Rubik.

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They're still going to be doing okay.

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Again, it is a lot of damage coming out between these two heroes, the band so far from Liquid removing the Void spirit and a lot of the teams would just straight up ban out Puck, but maybe they are going to leave it in the pool as like you want to pick Puck.

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Try it no head. I like that if liquid you take like you or send to like a re big off later

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You don't really care about a part because you can just like run through the game sure

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Park will count as both of them on paper

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But it's the idea of liquids line-up is really scary when the cause overlap the item timings, right?

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We already know that monkeying itemizes to be aggressive. Yeah, it fuckens it

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They do have a bit of damage problems outside of early game dooms. It's a lot of like

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Spell machine surviving spells but no like killer kind of combo at the moment

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Of course the 24 pick can do that puck wouldn't really bring it it bring more control rather than the killing blow

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So again liquid might not even care about this hero

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You mentioned centaur I like that a lot. I mean for you

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Yeah for the off lane when you think about the offlaners dark sheer centaur

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These are always good responses to doom because you can always save people in a way where you use stampede

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So you can either and you also build into Lotus

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But they still think that maybe this batter is still gonna be played as a core

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And again, I mentioned the itemization on clean of pain

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Lotus orb against doom also feels really nice

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So probably gonna be the item that he's gonna be looking out for as his first first item

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But gonna give respect to park no matter what

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There's always one thing to note with park is if your team is very hyper skirmish and fighting

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Puck will always get behind you to skip that next wave tiny can do it Ruby can do it like they can all be very

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Annoying with the waveshuff that could complicate the quiz game, but still a lot of respect getting shown

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with the band

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One final ban will they remove an offlaner or remove a position for we do see ecchi talking so

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could be talking about which hero he likes or how he would like the bat in the position

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for this summer. It is the Hootwing that still gets removed, which is of course one of the

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position fours that's been the most successful one here at the tournament, most in-demand

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one I should say.

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I know Batcanny is going to be the Offlane, right? Boots are bearing very high value

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as well against the Slows of Falcons. But to me, I feel like there's a really,

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there is a cool Offlane pick to be had here that will just completely free farm

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into science at tiny because there are blocking some of the pics as well like

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you don't want to be picking dawn breaker into silencer you don't want to be

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picking underlord inter rubik's and you also don't want to be picking up i o

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again because you have doom so stopping that healing so a lot of these

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heroes don't feel good anymore after seeing what they already picked I mean

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if you want to go for four position then there's an argument where you

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just like you take the keeper of light you make some statue farmer early

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lotus and it's like queen can go mid lotus for position by the wall so

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There's like some greed options from the 4-Roll to find utility to deal with Falcons, but it will be Ayo anyway.

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And do just run back to Ayo.

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Is that confidence?

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It's also a soft save, because when you think about the hero, if you're not the one getting doomed, you can relocate people out of the fight.

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They're now having two saving supports.

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There's gonna be some mad healing in this game. That's an Oracle Ayo.

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If they ought to win this game, it's a lot.

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It is an unusual pairing, though. The Ayo and the Oracle together in the same team.

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But they have strong enough lane combos that it makes sense right the eye of bat can apply pressure

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Monkey and Oracle can apply pressure

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And then Oracle just needs to go through twinge and put one root and the back will get the kill right?

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But if the lanes are weaker, we would be very critical

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I think of the support duo, but with the Queen of Pain's aggression with this the combinations of cause

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Throw heels on these guys. They will run over again. Yeah, this is it is a classic one

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I always

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Love when they pick sanking because they are I would say the best sanking team from the mid lane

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They just know how to utilize the hero that did mention it in the previous draft as like the second third options instead of ember

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They want to be able to pump out the damage extra bit of a control and also seeing that the heroes are gonna be paired up together

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That was also one of my reasoning because with tethered you kind of don't have like guaranteed

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double borough strike, but it does allow you to set things up much more easily and

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pump out that damage with the Sanking, because Sanking Solstering Combo, you

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doom someone that's minus one already, and then with the Skeeter, he can also cut

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into backlines, maybe try to find one of the supports as well, makes the fight

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much easier for them, but then again, Liquid, they have all the speed in the

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world. They have no big ulti cooldowns, even if you have like

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Wukong's on cooldown, no last, you can still take the fights.

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Yeah, I mean liquid they have no cares like if a guy dies the doom

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He'll respawn and it's like go again. That's where falcons

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They cannot let game to kind of repeat itself if they let liquid run into them

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It'll be defensive epicenters defensive dooms and globals like get away from a shoe

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And that is not the way you need to play this game falcons better laning phase

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Yes to make sure when liquid wants to go aggressive they can these match it

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I want to be like smoke on smoke action not just like smoke breaking something

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Yeah, something that tofu did say in the listening was like they're really messing us with every two minutes

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We are kind of cooked. So let's just smoke up. Let's make something happen when the

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This global salons and dawn breaker altis were on cooldown

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So I feel like they might need to do the same thing in this game

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Okay, let's find out who will make it to our finals Sunday before we get into the third game though

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We're gonna check in with slacks and blitz

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Hey, she ever that's right. I am here with blitz dota here very serious moment

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All right elimination on the line blitz all your entire life could be over you could be fired from team Locado

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If you lose but I don't want to put too much pressure on you

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I don't want to have a pseudo serious time with you now. I am a dumbo

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I don't really understand your draft because you've got I

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You've got Oracle and you're against the only hero that prevents heels in the entire game. Mr. Doom except for ancient apparition

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Why? Why good with those two heroes versus ATF Doom?

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I don't know.

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Oh, shit! That's not good!

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We picked the Oracle before he picked Doom, so it's not like we were trying to, but I don't know.

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I don't know. It's late. We think we picked good heroes.

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Don't start excuses yet! You guys haven't even lost yet! Jesus Christ, convince me your draft is good!

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I know it's good, but that's why we picked the heroes the way that we did.

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We can be wrong after the fact, like, once I see the game plan, I'm like, oh boy, but like,

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right now I think we won so you know now is this the draft that you think can

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take out these iconic heroes because of course they did get the ATF doom we do

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have the mid sand king and they took out a lot of your guys as classical heroes

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as well kind of scary what do you have going for you in this draft I think

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quap is a very good hero right now in this meta I think I suspect that writer

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might be the best hero in Dota and so getting him you know it's one of those

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things where it's like they had really interesting ideas. I think they probably

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knew what they were getting into because they gave us first pick and they took

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second pick so they probably had an idea for this bat and so this is one of those

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things where it's like is Curtis as smart as like I think he is? You know

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did I just get baited? Who knows? But it's one of those things like did they

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overthink things or were they just smarter than us? Okay fantastic. If you

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had to live with one of the Dota heroes in this game in your house

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as a romantic like a partner in a marriage who would you choose to live with cohabitating why?

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non-sexually just like as a friendship in a platonic relationship yeah for a year I kind of

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feel like monkey would be pretty fun right he like you just like swings by trees he would like

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take you along I guess I could do that too but like that feels like a bit too much like

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co-dependent there's like radiation coming off of that thing for sure yeah but like monkey's

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He's kind of just like a dude. I think me and him would get along pretty well like it's one of the bros

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That's fucking bass man bring it in goddamn monkeys for life my boy. All right. Thank you so much mr. Bloodstone. We'll see if

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Jesus cry over to you guys

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That was just so lovely and hot-warming game three big Liz that was a good hug bring it

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How have you? Here we go. Team Liquid, Team Falcons. This one game will grant you entry into the final day of the competition.

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This one game can earn you $40,000 and this is going to be for all the marbles.

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Let's see how this breaks out. One thing I'm curious about your opinion on this.

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Yes, we heard about the doom, the negative interactions with all the healing and stuff like this, right?

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But is this enough when you look at this drop to deal with the Queen of Pain?

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Queen of Pain is a massive problem, of course. They got a couple of those. They didn't only

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get the Queen of Pain, they also got the Bat. Right now Tiny already on half of his HP,

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by the way, suffering a little bit from Echie and Ace as they take down the range creep.

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So it's kind of cool. This whole tournament, we didn't talk about Bat way too much.

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Echie is mentioned here and there, but he kind of flies under the radar because he's banned out all the time.

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This is probably the strongest hero in the meta still.

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And in the series, is this game number three, that we're seeing it every single game, has a bat?

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Yep, and every bat won.

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One thing we also heard from Blitz was about how, you know, he's tired,

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and that's one of the issues about these kind of games.

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Both Liquid and Falcons have played four games already.

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That's the fifth game for them.

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It's late at night, fatigue and momentum.

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This is where it becomes very important to maintain these things throughout the course of the day.

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Yeah, of course.

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At least, you know, they don't usually do anything else during the day, it's just play Dota 10 hours a day, so

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skater should be fine. I think it's actually, when it comes to fatigue, I think it's a bit harsher on the coaches

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because you just have to think about what you're doing all the time,

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super cerebral, you're not only playing off of mechanical skill and instincts,

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and you just have to watch your team every single game.

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Right now snaking and skill of suffering a little bit in this bottom side of the lane as opposed

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We did hear from the cost you as mentioning

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You know you play with the maximum our kinkers into the bad rider, but with this constant sustain from eckey at some point

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Ace just stopped scaring about this. Yeah, the currently when you look at sensors

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I feel like glaives of wisdom have been the standard build right like every single lane has been a glaives of wisdom spam

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Sure, you are going to get our kinkers afterwards of course, but at the beginning at least, it's the glaive spam.

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Lanes are pretty volatile on both sides, right?

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Some pressure on the skitter as well with the spirits, snaking.

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And I charge down Ace to get him to go, plus 16 damage.

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I think this lane changes maybe a little bit once you get the level 2 fire spirits, just the spirits.

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Okay, A is snaking. They might go back on top of him. A is trying to heal himself up.

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Tree throw from the tiny Skeeter.

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Assisting Snake to get the first kill, little make it a double.

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This lane all of a sudden going heavily in favor of Falcons.

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Yeah, they thought they had him. The fairy fire baits on the Batrider,

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but it feels like they didn't really account for the tree throw.

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It's completely switching things around.

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They become a lot stronger once they get a level three,

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but they pressured a little bit too early.

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Top lane, lift back onto Miike. There's a fortune in that's going to be there.

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Miike, boundless strike back towards Crick. They want to bring down this Rubik

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and they'll kill him off with the Purifying Flames.

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Now Amar, E.T., Body Box, not allowed to move. He's stuck in between these two heroes.

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Does he have enough damage to fight his way through?

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He has enough to at least kill Miike.

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But Tofu will be the one that granted the double.

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So on both sides of the map, lots of action happening in the side lanes.

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Yeah, this top lane as well. Very volatile. You have Doom and Rubik.

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This has been the lane for Falcons today. I feel like they've had most success with Rubik versus QWAP as well, of course.

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Down the line. We'll see if Amar goes for the same Radiance build that he's been doing.

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Basically back to three games already today.

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Skid up. Have a launch out onto the IO. Tree throw will be there, but Ekki finds the tether to the high ground for ace.

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I also really enjoy these like elimination games where both teams are putting streaks on the line, right?

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Undefeated IO Batrider vs undefeated Doom. Very fun to watch.

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A couple of undefeated heroes in the last game as well, right? On both sides.

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Stop playing, they're diving and they're killing. Good creep to find.

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Chain Lightning, 60 mana. Pretty useful. This spell used to be even more busted back in the day.

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Not as strong any longer, but it's still a very nice nuke to have.

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Oracle, by the way, has been being picked more and more in these last couple of days.

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Was a dead hero for quite some time, has some value even into the Rubik, right?

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Like you can dispel the fate of it.

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Hmm.

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That was a very good point.

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Let's talk about this mid lane for a second.

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Nothing too unexpected here.

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Nisha has a high ground sentry to prevent the sandstorm slam.

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Just feeling very good about himself.

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Now, you can just try to stay safe, pick up as much CS as you can.

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A lot of these match-ups have actually completely changed.

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Like a lot of match-ups that used to be heavily favored for some heroes aren't as much any longer.

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A Queen of Pain used to more or less body the Sand King with the Shadow Strike spam and just zone him out of the lane.

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But of course right now only level 2 Shadow Strike.

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Miki is in trouble. Tofu was just hanging around on the Twin Gate for quite some time.

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And the Rubik was able to backstab, making him be like wait a second, this guy is all alone.

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Let's just get an easy kill.

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Not the first time, because Amar has had 3 kills today by the way in the lane.

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Second time, he is just really enjoying the Doom.

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Even after the nurse, this hero is still in a pretty good spot.

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Another one of those that can buy wraps as well, and have a lot of value from it.

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Of course, if you look at his inventory, he's queued up.

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The phases, and the ratings.

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Yep.

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Build radiance, every single game is played, Doom.

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That is just his build.

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How good is the radiance overall in this game?

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I mean, I don't think it's a game thing.

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I feel like that overall he just finds radiance to be good on Doom.

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Queen of Pain.

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Queen of Pain, she's in trouble.

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She's silenced by the last word, so she can't do anything right now.

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She's gonna lose her life.

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Ekky will join her.

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One more right click for Malrin is all they'll need.

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Snaking.

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Already four intelligence stolen by the silencer.

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This is such a good start so far from them and Bot lane as well, ace with the Aces.

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It's being triggered, Avalanche tosses from Skeeter directly onto Aces and during the

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Firefly of the Fat Rider, they'll find themselves getting blown to pieces.

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A double kill for Sand King.

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It's so juicy, right? Like you're playing something like Sand King, you get Aces,

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you get the kill with that P but you also get the stacks.

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And there was a hard camp stack and now you take another set of stacks as well.

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You got a pain?

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Now try punishing him for this one though.

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Jump on top of him, Baro Strike will be there.

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Nisha will only have Blink in 6 seconds, only level 1.

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The Spirits will they connect? The range is a bit too far, Mal-Reen is out of mana though, so he can't actually Baro Strike away, he'll end up dying.

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Nisha will get back in blood for all the homies that he's lost.

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They needed something, right? Like they needed to get anything done on the map and they do get it.

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Mikae Top lane?

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They're running after him, Amar doesn't have the level 6, doesn't have the chain lightning and the scorched earth though, catching up with the Infernal Blade, Micke, they know he's alone right now, and they're all gonna try and punish him, but Micke, with the Boundless Strike, perhaps has created enough separation to get out of here.

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He needs to jump into the trees, Arcane Curse, so it gets sent out of him, he tried to at least kill Snaking, but Crit was right there with the Fade Balls, Amar follows up with the chain lightning.

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Four kills by the way to Amar and by the way we were talking about mid lane and how some of these matchups aren't really the same anymore

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Monkey King used to be the counter to doom in the lane

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Yeah, like you picked the monkey doom has literally level 4 minute 12 or he cannot lane at all

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What has changed? Well the skill build has changed this new doom

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Sort of new like ever since the last patch

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You don't take devour that early on like devour is taken usually at level 4

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Like you go two levels in Scorsert, one Infernal Blade, and then you take the Valor.

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And it completely changes things, because Monkey King gets bullied out by the damage that you bring to the table early on.

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Second game in the series where Mikae is not having a good time in lane against Amar.

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It could get worse. Now Rina's made a rotation top. You brought Skeeter here.

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They're like, yeah, you know what? You got it guys. Just take the tower. Do what you need to do.

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He has lvl 6 on go, taking him down at this point and fighting against him is maybe not

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the best idea.

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Steals that one with purifying flames.

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Tofu has had a good start, at least Monkey didn't, but Tofu is almost lvl 6, pretty

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early lvl 6 by the way on support Oracle.

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Now going back towards USA on the panel, I'm really glad that Falcons, oh bottom

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Snaking will die to the first last two of the game, but I'm glad that Falcons are playing as fast as humanly possible, not letting the game get away from them.

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Making sure that they're the ones on the front foot, they're the ones applying pressure.

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I didn't think that they'll continue playing all the time that way, because I feel like they scale alright as well.

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Like when I look at these heroes, eventual aghanims, Sand King, you know, there's a lot of damage coming from him.

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Radiance Doom doesn't strike me as a Doom that wants to end the game anytime soon.

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Radiance Doom means I'm chilling boys. I have time to farm. You get the

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Radiance as a farming tool as well. It's not only the damage.

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I'm always gonna farm no matter what. Exactly. And keep in mind like this

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Queen of Pain has been in most of the games just the most impactful core

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position right like whenever she's picked. But you're playing into aerobic.

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Like, Crit will be buying aghanims 99% very shortly.

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Like, he will queue it up eventually.

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So you go like a distiller blink axe?

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I think so, yeah. You can go distiller H-Lens axe as well.

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As long as you get the aghanims early enough, like your Shadow Strike actually becomes a problem for the Queen.

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And everyone else on her side.

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I'm sure right now, said queen is starting to farm into this veil of discord, picking

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up some medium camps and some ancients right now.

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Does have to sonic wave, we'll see if the decision is made to move and try to make

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something happen top.

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They might even go middle, but she's in thrown out, but it's just a token one, doesn't

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even bother channeling it for long.

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One thing that all of this has been doing though, we've alleviated some pressure from Ace, who was under a lot of scrutiny down bottom, but now is actually going to be able to farm.

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The TP the Tiny bit.

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Okay, did you just want to force the tower?

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It seems so.

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Got a C dragon with it.

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They have Global as well.

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Niki, can you read the first one that TP's in?

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Teowan Tower being aggressed upon liquid doesn't seem like you'll bring the requisite numbers.

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I say that, but Ace is actually starting to sweep over as well, thinking about getting involved here,

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but it might be too late, the tower's already gone, and now they just auto-strike directly into Ace.

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Global Silence activated as well. Ace falling extremely low, and eventually he will die.

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The epicenter going off channeling onto Tofu, doing a lot of damage.

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He will be able to at the very least get off the force promise by some time, but that's all it is.

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The time is bought, the time is rescinded, a maw on a dominating streak and liquid bleeding kills all over the map.

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It was hard to take this fight because of the global. There's a chance, by the way, for Tofu to get a couple of highlight clips this game.

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As an old-school Oracle player, you know, like you can still purge global, pre-purge it.

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So if he anticipates the global, he can cast it on himself and then fall from someone else afterwards.

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it's a thing it's really hard to do of course but you know you can aura farm by doing that

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aura maxing i mean you have twink maxing the other day so you can aura max today

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well yeah actually we forgot this is the the twink versus twink matchup right

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skier versus doppelganger

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i feel like the liquid boys eventually are going to be

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We accept it into the dream club that Blitz is running, so they can't beat things for

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way too long.

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It's a limited amount of time as they bring in the relocate.

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Crit will probably be the one that dies here and they give the kill towards Ace, getting

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in closer and closer towards having that blink dagger.

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Very similar to game 2 where the back rider needs to be the primary one, making and

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forcing these initiations to happen because they don't really have much catch otherwise.

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The thing is, it's a bit different, like we've seen a couple of bad games now.

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In this one, you have bad with lasso and you have relocate, but at some point it can also

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be a bait, because global silence versus bad lasso and relocate actually works nicely

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too.

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You can completely counterplay that with a well-timed global, so not as easy to always

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have a free pick off with the lasso.

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Crit, shows up middle, pops the smoke,

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and we'll take Mal'Reen on a little adventure

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as he now has the blink dagger available.

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They have vision.

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This observer was scouted that Ace was farming here

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in the ancient stag.

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Yeah, they see the creeps.

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They see the creeps moving toward him, so...

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The sensor being channeled.

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Mal'Reen, can you get him?

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Barrel strike will connect.

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There should be a death on to Ace.

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They lift him back, hit him with the Fade Bolt,

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and they throw a tree at him

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From downtown, Skeeter ensures that they kill the Batred.

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Kill secured. That's how they call it, right?

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Securing the kill. Unfortunately for the Bat, I.O. is still in farm mode, so there was no relocate out, there was no help for him.

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And fortunately for the Sand King of course, once again, not only does he find the kill, but he snatches a pretty juicy stack.

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Yep.

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see Mk jumping around he has a mage slayer ready to go

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I'm gonna be going into the mage slayer deso build

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very standard at this point for the monkey king

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it's just a bunch of metro hammers queued up

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if you click on him you see three metro hammers in the goodbye

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what's been the most that somebody sports

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Mitchell Hammer? Probably like four right? If you go BKB, Bash or Deso? Yeah.

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Unless somebody also went Mjolnir on top of that then that would be crazy.

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As it stands, Team Liquid on the back foot? You could see it on Mjolnir right?

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I can't imagine a build that has all of these so...

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Maybe not the Mjolnir. The Mjolnir feels a bit too much. It does, it does, absolutely.

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It's a Mitchell hammer. We're Mitchell hammer maxing Mitchell maxing miss maxing. Nisha needs to be careful here

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Does that tofu behind him though?

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However global silence is online

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So liquid needs to be very careful about the moves they make and where they show on the map for example top lane

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Nikki ended up showing in lane and global silence is expended or more trying to chase him down

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Infernal play this out there won't even need the dooms to kill him. Nisha will find revenge by bringing down snaking

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that cannot stick around for too long, lest he gets doomed himself.

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The Curicorial on the way out from then retreat.

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Global has been used, but another nice steal from Crit, by the way.

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Getting to Tredance.

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They might actually use their Tredance.

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He jumps forward, gets the lift back onto Ekky, Mal-Rae knows exactly where to go with the epicenter,

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finds Ekky, isolates Tofu, and both of them will die.

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Our Maa gets credit for the double kill.

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Brazil on the Doom 7 kills one death and by the way that looked like a kill on

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Io and that's it but saving your body syndrome strikes again so both of them

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die like Oracle and Io are sometimes very difficult to play against like when

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you have these kind of double saves on a team because it's it's hard to jump

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one target or the other the difference though for Falcons is I don't

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think they're going to have too many issues with that the difference

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This maker is still the silencer. He's one, and the other one is actually the sand king.

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His AoE damage can just clean both of them up.

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He's trying to get into a BKB. He needs it before the blink dagger to deal with this global

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somehow. But in that interim period, Valkans feel very free on the map. Skeeter going

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directly into the Silver Edge. But based on what we saw in game one, remember that

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comes from Kotofu, reminding his team to try and fight as much as possible in the downtime

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in between the Lobos.

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We're gonna relocate top, Amar, we'll be scouted here, fortune's in, connect on top of him,

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and they will be able to kill him.

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Nicely done, the whole team is here, but when you're this far behind, anything you get off

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the map is definitely worth it.

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Yeah, he's a big kill and a big punishment like they got around a thousand gold from

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one single kill.

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So a huge swing.

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Should sneaking go

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How early do you want him to buy refresher this game?

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Or might is actually are you asking me about the Midas?

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Waiting for that. Well, he has four staff for now queued up. It depends on his read of the game. Hecky

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If he feels like this game is going to go super late, I feel like he might get the Midas again

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Look at this crit. This sheet answer has been extremely useful

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Triggering on to ace. Maureen knows where he's at thinking about channeling this epicenter

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They want to find him first, the TP out, will it be there in time? No it will not!

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Skeeter knew exactly where he was in the corner, interrupted by the Avalanche,

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stunned up by the borrower strike and killed off by snaking.

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Who has 16! Suffered intelligence!

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Why does Amar suffer a tip by the way?

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Because he wasn't a part of all of this I guess.

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16 charges on Sandsir is pretty damn good.

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They didn't even have to use the epicenter to get the bad kill.

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Slowing down to his BKB of course is pretty important.

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And, yeah, Rubik, by the way, Aether lands into an Aghanim skewed up, like nothing else.

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You don't really need a lot. As long as you get the Aghanims vs. Quap, you just heal the Shadow Strike and that's it.

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You don't even have to think about other spells, even though 3dance is pretty damn nice.

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Any sort of mobility when you're playing against it and you get to steal it on Rubik feels good.

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and you could get both right once you get the agonim scepter

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you can get the shuttle strike and some tree dance just jump around and

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shuttle strike everyone sounds like a nightmare to play against

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Nisha although does have the first card drawn for exodia

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agonim scepter is now picked up although could end up dead here

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malrin channeling the epicenter going directly in there's the global

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preventing the safety relocate up they still don't have enough damage to

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kill him off just here's the fourth promise as soon as the global finishes

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Nisha will stay living, going back onto Mal'Rain, Sonic Wave, onto the Sand King, but they need

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Mikkei's damage.

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He just can't reach in time.

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Our war now shows up.

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Get the Doom out onto the Queen of Pain.

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She is almost certain to die here.

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Ekky tries to get the relocate out, but leaves just as she dies.

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Now all of a sudden Mikkei is fighting at a numerical disadvantage.

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Skeeter gets right on top of him.

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Tofu buys some time with the Fates eating, but eventually they do find him.

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To us, onto A's. A's get the power strike. A's will die.

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Eki on the return from the reload, at least brings the understanding with the spirits.

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I mean, these two supports. If Amar and Tiny wanted to go on them, like they could've, but okay, they back out.

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Re-locked, by the way, was timed. It wasn't timed badly. The problem is, a queen of pain moved out.

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There was some miscommunication between Eki and Nisha.

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And Nisha moved a little bit too far, and then he couldn't follow, so the tether broke.

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Real case was on point, but the tether was on cooldown then, so they couldn't really get him out.

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When you think about it, Io, even though he doesn't heal against Doom, isn't a bad hero against Doom,

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because you can just reload the target out, reset that way, leave the hero that's doomed in the fountain,

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and then go back with him, so...

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This time, of course, it didn't work.

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On the bright side they did get a couple kills in that situation

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The dark side is that you know all their cool scores died in that moment, which is very unfortunate, but

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Naskita silver edge available for him

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Let's not just feel so scary man. We still don't have that BKB for ace nor for the monkey king

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For now, there's no global. For now, 5 seconds away, they will have it again on snaking and

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Falcons, more or less, pretty much ready to go again.

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There is something to be said about damage issues on Falcons. I feel like Queen of Pain

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usually makes the team just not have any damage problems, but the two supports that

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they've got, Io and Oracle, just contribute almost nothing when it comes to DPS.

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We still have to wait for Monkey and Bat to come online.

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Tier 1 tower taken by Nisha at the bottom.

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That's all now finished from Nikkei.

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It's a 6k gold lead in favor of Falcons, but we've seen larger leads than this be turned around.

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So, Crypt will steal some spirits. Oh, Ekky is so dead.

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Skeeter right on top of him.

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Man, that's tiny. Doing so much damage. Mega kill streak for him.

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him. There's a D2 room on top as well. Doom? You actually saw where they went to with what

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Ace and Nisha. It gets the Doom out on the Ace, but he got the Firefly already going.

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He's already activated the Bongo Boots, so the movement speed allows him to just run

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away from the Doom. That looked kinda wasted from the get-go, right? Just using it

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immediately on Bat if you have no catch. That's a pretty big cooldown just wasted.

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2 minutes without Doom now. Something that Team Liquid will probably look to exploit.

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They should be smoking up, they have a BKB as well. But there you go, smoke.

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BKB is up on Bat. Doom is down. Global is available still.

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And they also just picked up the Aghanem set before Malorin.

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And I don't think this has been scouted by Liquid. They could be heavily surprised by the increase in the magic damage.

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Some nice magic, some nice physical damage as well from Sand King Noh as well, right,

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to the top.

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And the DD in the bottle.

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Doom, it's gonna be the one that gets found here.

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Ace trying to bounce back the dooms, only gonna be able to catch up to snaking.

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Hasn't used the lasso just yet, BKB is still at the ready if needed.

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He will try to drag him back.

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There is the BKB immediately triggered by Ace, and now Malrin fighting himself

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Green finding himself in an awkward position, bounced back towards the rest of Team Liquid, and killed off by Ace.

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Good patience on the back ladder to hold that BKB until he knew for sure that the Sand King was coming.

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Yeah, the lasso looked bad though, right?

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Like, you catch a target that...

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It's a silencer, position 5 that already used Global, but I guess the plan was to bait them onto the high ground,

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to make them think that they're strong enough to fight without Doom,

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which is something that possibly crossed Malrin's mind as he went in with the FB.

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Trying to chase Skeeter. They saw him moving with the Silver Edge.

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They're catching up to him, Ace.

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He's gonna be there. There's no lasso available, but they do have a lot of slows.

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Flame break back. Skeeter, nice little avalanche.

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He doesn't have his DKB just yet. Amar needs to run a lot of interference.

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The Croakers end up just getting themselves involved in this fight.

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A stun sort of disrupts the movement from everybody.

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Yeah, they were helping out a little bit.

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Peacemakers, right there, there, UN.

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In these last couple of engagements, Amar didn't really have Doom.

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Like it was still on cooldown because of that bad usage earlier.

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But now he does have it.

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He's by the way going for a heart.

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Okay.

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He did this the other day.

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We didn't do it this early on.

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He switched up, he switched up. He switched into Shiva's.

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I mean, how unkillable do you actually want to be?

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Yes.

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Heart plus radiance, let's go.

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Just run in, burn!

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There's no guarantee you won't still buy the heart after the Sheavers.

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That's true.

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So no blink?

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He doesn't, he isn't queuing it up.

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I mean, he's got a lot of mobility between the speed aura, the drums, and the scores dirt.

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Somebody else has to buy blink. He's like, me guys, I'm a carry today.

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Do you think he'll go for the Aghanim Scepter like he did the other day?

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it's a no right of an axe game like if he finds reasons for it like if you if you

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think that you have to jump the backlines and catch multiple heroes like

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these multiple savers with the axe it's okay

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well unfortunately he's not getting to us in true characteristic of our fashion

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changing to harpoon all right all right we'll see what he actually by right

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no point looking at his cook but this harpoon is mostly built on position

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There's a couple players that attempt Doom from the carry roll, and usually it's the

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Harpoon build, like you take Harpoon and you find a wolf, like your crits are pretty

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damn high, so.

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It's something.

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Or a Strike of Mist, through the mid lane.

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Tofu like he faked either did him beforehand, just preemptively ensuring that the Queen

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of Pain would survive if he got jumped on.

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The same might not be true for Ace though, as he is being shadowed, unfortunately because

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Mal'Reen showed middle, he's not smoked and he's not with the team, so he can't get

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that easy catch on Badrider, which just blinks away from Skeeter.

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The Falcons right now, they're burning their time a little bit, because sure, they're

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farming on every single core, but I think that currently they have an advantage, and

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that advantage is no dispels on the Ayo or on the Oracle, and because of these

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these two heroes not having this balls, your dooms, your globals, your epicenters aren't

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really easy to dodge, most of these fights I would say Falcons would have an advantage

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in, but BKB is being built on the IO, Greaves are being built on the Oracle, they're still

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quite far from the Greaves but they're getting there.

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BKB is available, even if Eki dies here, not that big of a deal.

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I think after what happened last time, he's like guys, if they're going on me just let

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me down.

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There was a creep wave coming but a little bit too far for the Tether in the end.

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Bot lane.

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We're going to try and quickly counter here.

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There isn't a sentry ward down though, so they see Skita.

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In the meantime though, PinoPage jumps the back line trying to bring down Crit.

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Crit definitely going to die here.

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Noble Silence has been activated but where's the follow up damage?

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The Maa comes through, Tofu right in front of her, Malrin misses the Barrest Strike onto

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Nisha.

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He's still trying to take this fight because Mikkei is here with the Wukong's command.

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Mikkei now activated by a Maa, he really wants to chase down Tofu but Tofu just planks away

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and so does the Queen of Pain.

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Mikkei now grabbed by Mikkei, he wants to go back into the fight, he goes in, Mikkei

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be active, Fortune's in, being channeled by Tofu, he's gonna land out onto Skeeter.

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Nisha will put in some spells on the Tiny but he activates Mikkei, he starts right

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Clicking on to Mickey losing more help though and there's now read with the epicent of an ecchi tablet up to

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Nisha healing him through all of this with the BKP active they're gonna turn this damn fight

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Nisha gets a triple kill he carries this fight so hard by making sure that Nisha has all the

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resources he needs and because of all that space lizard Mickey can clean up a man turn it into

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a team wipe this is the moment where you ask for the damage recap by the way not only the

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healing ring up we can see that one as well but Queen of Pain was doing some

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pretty good work once again I mean I'm not even surprised anymore every single

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fight when this hero gets an agonies looks similar to how it looked like right

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here and they were getting so much value from the Shadow Strike not only

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for the damage but it was 24-7 applied to Mal'Reen so he cannot blink in he

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cannot find like the right way to use the Epi Center in the end Epi was

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used but he was just constantly sitting on the sidelines trying to find the right angle to actually

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enter the fight. It's kind of crazy that the BKB arrived during this for Mikke. It enables him to

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just stick to Skeeter and once Ekky arrives yeah that's why I don't care. I won't care, I won't care, I won't care, here's Mikke.

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Fuck yeah boys let's go. Good guy Mikke, he's got a big streak, he's like Nisha,

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kill you go OG take the gold that's a real teammate right there better man than me there's no way I'm giving up that streak

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You're stealing the streak

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You're fate bolting it your rubik. I know I'm the same. I'm trying to get it no matter what

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You know I'm the kind of a guy that kills on an ultra kill, you know, okay, that's messed up that's messed up

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That's reportable behavior genuinely

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They are still not there yet when it comes to Crit's acts and I honestly think that this

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Crit agonist scepter can change things and the way the teamfights go.

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Like if he manages to get the axe and to start stealing the Shadow Strike,

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he will be dealing more or less the same damage as Quap,

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or maybe even more so because of Arcane Supremacy.

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Like you get 26% Spellamp on top.

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The way this game has flipped before that fight started,

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Team Liquid had a 37% chance of win probability.

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Now it's completely inverted.

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It's in their favor right now.

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try and push that advantage. They smoke up, they find crit in the triangle, he tries to

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lift himself to safety but that will only work for so long my friend. If you're being

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chased by a monkey and a bad rider they will not allow you to escape.

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Yeah, when you're playing Rubik and when you're going for a straight agonies, your

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positioning has to be absolutely impeccable. Like if you're out of position just slightly

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you will be hunted down.

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Snape also under vision.

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Yeah, does have global but not gonna use it here.

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Okay, doesn't even need to hit him with a boundless.

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Just right clicks through him, easily kills off the silencer.

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In the meantime, Nisha has just been pushing this tier 2 tower in the mid lane.

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Will be able to grab it as well.

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Is this the Exodia build or is he missing something?

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He's got the Bloodstone, the Aghanims, the Kaia.

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Uh, the Shiva's, I guess?

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Okay.

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So that's lacking?

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Kaia, Sanj, Bloodstone and Shiva's.

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It still already feels pretty exodia at those points.

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It's Kaia, Sanj, I feel like after that he can go for a Nocturine as well for the Perma Spam.

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It's already very spammy from the Queen of Pain, but next thing's even easier.

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All right, so what's the recovery plan right now for the side of Falcons?

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They still have not that big of a gold deficit. They still have BKB's on all of their cores.

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They too, but one hero that I'm not really seeing have too much impact in team fights.

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It's Sandcruel. They completely shut him down.

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Oh, Doom! The Sonic Wave with the Wukong's command! I thought this hero was supposed to be tanky!

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He dies during the BKB. Nothing you could do about it.

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Team Liquid.

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They're on a roll right now tearing through the map. Maybe he needs to that hard that you killed up earlier

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If he wants to survive

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There's just so much

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Filty damage coming global was silence. It's on bottom. They're trying to prevent ace from jumping in with the lasso

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We'll buy a skater an opportunity to escape, but now you've committed global

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What else do you have to actually threaten them if you want to make the jump?

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With that global being used Queen of pain can just literally do this sit on the high ground

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hit the tower maybe monkey king can commit once he has the Wukong's command as well.

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There's nothing to be afraid of like Oracle is just sitting in the back and waiting with the force promise.

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Oracle on the one side, Io on the other.

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Layered Heels of team liquid proving difficult for Falcons to deal with.

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We're about to lose their first tier 3 tower.

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Misha, okay, how much further does he want to push this? I think you've got enough. That's good enough.

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30 seconds on on the Aegis if it lasted a little bit longer perhaps they would

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stick around but Doom is respawning Aegis is being reclaimed in retrospect you

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think I should have bought the blink tag on them all I put give you a different

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angle it's kind of hard to say like he decided to go for this build and he

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is such a good Doom player that most of the time he finds the right angle

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to utilize them anyway to cast the Doom spell that is so most of the time he

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doesn't buy the blink and it still works this was one of those off games where it

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doesn't

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see what the smoke will yield for them now rain has a BKB available everybody's

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online they don't have global for another 10 seconds though will be available

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soon like you mentioned they have so many dispelled on liquid they have

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Hagen and Zurbik though. That has been completed as well.

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Ski here.

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He sees Tofu. There's going to be a great person to start the fight on.

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Eki's waiting in the wings. There's going to be the Avalon to epicenter.

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Tofu gets invigorated.

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Eki won't be able to remove the Peter Pan from the fight,

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but Nikke might be in an awkward position now.

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He gets doomed. He gets global. He gets brought down.

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And Eki will unfortunately have to join him in the fountain.

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As soon as he comes back from this relocate, he's going to die extremely quickly.

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It's here? He's fine, right? Like he's out.

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Wait, what?

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On the left, he's not going back there.

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No, he's not. I thought he was going to go back.

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Where did he relocate from there?

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Did he relocate to TPKBTP? I'm not sure. I think he's TPKBTP, right?

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I guess so. Relo...

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No, it's so cooldown.

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Relo is on cooldown right now.

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Huh?

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I don't understand what happened there.

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That, like some miracle, Eki's out, he's chillin'.

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This brings me back to the Alliance days and the good old EGM TPing after the reload timing. It's at the perfect moment.

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But yeah, a pretty good fight by Falcons, like they had a little bit of luck as well.

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as well as so. Asso going out to come to the doom, as far as an available North is there

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a global silence to help protect him but with the PKB he is tanky enough, jump on the high

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ground is going to be Nisha but he gets power strike almost immediately and he is there

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with the tether though, Skeeter finding the two hero Avatar's Echie gets out, relocate

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once more. This time around it was definitely the reload that gets him away. They're

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healing so damn much with the Oracle, right? Like it's not only that he's healing the Ayo,

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he's healing the target that's tethered constantly. Aghanim's, by the way, we did talk about Yag's

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on Rubik, but he's got one as well. Now on the Ayo, he's headed for a little bit now.

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Matrata also has a four-star. He still has BKB at the ready, 15 seconds until they have Lasso.

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No real vision on any target on the map, so the smoke might not connect onto anybody.

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You can see that the game is still pretty damn close, right, like after the last couple

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of fights Falcons have managed to bring it back, especially when it comes to the network,

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of course they do have Doom, like you're constantly devouring units so you have this little

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mini Midas advantage in your toolkit.

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He's, by the way, going back with the heart, curing it up right now.

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See how he gets, how he fares getting to that item, he's about to get lasso'd

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Just on a wave does the damage local silence will be there and actually stolen lasso

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Draggy ace back into the base

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Skeeter is gonna start beating down on top of him and ace is gonna be the one that falls a markets healed up

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Take into the fountain and lives while eckey not allowed to get out with the relocate

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He dies on the high ground and drops a gem towards snaking as well

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That's such a good high ground fold and the nice lift like the moment

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He jumped in is the same moment that he's lifted you cannot

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go in without using the BKB. I feel like it has to be there immediately. Lasso as

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well, by the way on Rubik with curiosity is pretty damn good. It lasts a bit

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longer as well. The cooldown is lower, so he'll be able to spam it a couple of

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times before it's reclaimed. By the way, so far I don't think he managed to

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steal Shadow Strike. Misha is actually very careful not to give it away.

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Every time he uses Shadow Strike he follows up with Scream of Pain, and

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The Scream of Pain is way worse of a spell to steal.

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Maybe it's not so bad now, he has the Lasso so you can get the Double Hero Lasso and then

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you double screen it.

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I mean, yeah, he actually has a better lasso than the Bat in multiple ways because of the

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Agonyms as well.

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Unfortunately, no blink.

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He's sitting on 1800 gold, maybe he'll think about buying it next.

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If he stuck around here on the side ground, they would have been able to kill him,

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Drop some observable ward, retreats, good game sense there from Crit.

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By the way, check the range of lasso on Rubik.

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It's not the bat lasso, this one is a little different.

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Wow, okay.

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That seems fair in balance to me, I don't see a problem with that.

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Remember an old bat rider kind of had a lasso that day, way back in the day?

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Roshan being attempted by Liquid.

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I'm already in the relationship yeah but he has the heart now there's no way

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they're gonna jump him first

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there it is the refresher for snaking so double silence is available liquid

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we'll post up around the Roshan pit I'm gonna just stand inside and give

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themselves up as easy targets very scary place to be for both of these teams

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This could be a game-designing fight.

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This is rush on number two, so a banner could really facilitate a push in either direction.

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Amar goes up with the Sheavers, just to scout a little bit.

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Nisha will blink back. He's really unafraid. Got Tofu and Eki behind him, so no chance of them actually killing him.

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As Aeondisk as well, right? So has that saving grace from the Aeondisk and maybe afterwards the false promise can follow through.

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Like both teams are really good at fighting in these clutch little ramp areas.

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On one side you have Sand King who loves playing in plumped up areas, but on the other you

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have Wukong's command too.

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When it comes to the pit it's all about who gets initiated on first, especially when

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you have lasso on both sides right now.

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Rush will be going top though.

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Yep.

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They have a smoke.

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They're still smoked up.

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Svalkans who has the positioning at this juncture right now.

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Unfortunately, they don't want to really put anyone in the pit to hit the roach either.

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And are they really going to go for this full wrap on the side of Liquid?

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It seems that way.

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Nisha has a shield rune.

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So not an easy target to go on.

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But Ace and Monkey King, they're the ones that are going to find the vision.

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They're going all the way around. Ace, Firefly activated. Can he find Snake King? He can.

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He grabs him before the Global, but immediately, this Crit is there with the Counter-Lesser to save them.

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The first Global will come out. He'll still end up losing the Rubik,

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but the Sonic Wave pushing back some of these heroes. Snake King will die to all of his magic damage.

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It's a 1-1 trade so far. Crit buying back immediately.

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Bowerstrike catching up onto Topu. Topu's going to die as well.

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That's a fireback if you want to use it. Yet again, could unable to steal a Shadow Strike, only getting the Scream of Pain.

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Now that they've used both Globals, they've used the Power Strike at the epicenter, they've used the Doom, they're out of steam on the side of Team Falcons.

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Yeah, they're falling back. The BKBs as well have been utilized and they don't want to continue fighting.

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IO bought back and relocated in just to help out a little bit, but MVP of this fight damaged a side.

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aside, there was a lot of damage dealt on both sides. It was definitely Tofu, like he was in the

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right position at the right time to break the initial Lasso and he kind of rescued the fight for

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Liquid from then on, because if the Lasso was allowed to just stand there on a double target

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by Rubik, I don't think they had a chance in help to take the W. Well thankfully for them,

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Tofu, playing on his A-game does die for the cause, but in sacrifice, Will met Team Liquid

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and Aegis, a banner, put Mikkei, almost at level 25 on the Monkey King. He's going for

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the Disperser as well, so then he has another source of Dispel outside of having to pop

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BKB.

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It's a pretty good item on hand, right? Not only you're getting a lot from it, you're

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getting the Mana Burn of course as well, you're getting the Disperser active, but

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the movement speed that you get from it too, right? Like you can move around the

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fight much better you don't have to rely on only changing of the guard you can

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replace Aegis or maybe boots with it as well

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and we're getting to that point where monkey king will probably with the

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track of course with the 25 he takes the additional ring so once you start

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pushing you can make that huge arena where it's really difficult to fight

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actually gonna try to play aggressively right now tree dancing forward into Falcon side of the map

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They'd get a little bit of vision on top of him. He now shows Global Silence will come out, but he's right on top of Snake.

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He pops the BKB to make sure that the Tylencer does die.

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If they want to fight the lasso, dragging Amar back towards the rest of Team Liquid,

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he will attempt the BKB TP out, and the Nightfall Maneuver will succeed.

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Yeah, just the BKB TP works when you have how much HP, 4.3k on the Doom, sitting on a lot of armor as well.

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So this time around was able to get away

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That's another global that's not I mean sure he does have the refresher but

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Is there are we at that stage of the game where the silencer just has to sit as far back as possible

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Basically can't base just to make sure that the global always go up

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He can at this point

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The biggest impact that you do have as a silencer at this point is truly just a global

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All the other spells that you're casting are nice, but they're not nearly as impactful, so your job is to use it twice

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Mars also level 25 has the mute talent, of course

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So now the question is what are we buying?

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Pressure time, is it axe time, blink time?

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I was hoping for the permanence course, third, come on, just to run around the map bring doom everywhere

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But of course mute is the stronger option of the two

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But he's carrying the damn speed aura the whole game by the way

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Like the whole game that one little

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Cobalt has been digesting in his stomach for 14 minutes now

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You want some more fast man? What do you want me to say?

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Comes across the monkey king

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Both of them have EKB, Amaz just returned, Micke still has an Aegis so

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No need to put himself in any real danger here

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And he's got like 550 movement speed. The moment he uses phase boots so 600 even so it's a pretty speedy doom.

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45 minutes in. Team Liquid, the momentum is in their favor.

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And Nisha is officially at Exodia territory. Here we are. Now everything from here or not is a bonus sonic wave out onto snaking.

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Snake King is gonna die really quickly.

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Skeeter will be able to get the Avalanche toss out onto the Queen of Pain.

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Solar Sonic Wave thrown back by Krik, but Mikkei there to put down the Wukong's command.

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Skeeter's losing his life very quickly. There's a doom applied to the Queen of Pain,

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but Tofu with the false promise ensures that Nisha will stay living.

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There will be a secondary silence. They're trying their best with Malrin and this epicenter,

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and it's gonna work out. Ace and Nisha both end up dead.

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Mikkei right now trying to fight through all of this with the help of Ekki.

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Is he strong enough? Tofu will buy back to try and help him.

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Skeeter right in front of him doesn't die. The BKB, it might be expired, but so is the Monkey Kings.

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They have the burst damage to kill both him and Ekki.

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And Miki will return for life too, but it's too late.

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The fight has been lost. Four heroes have been taken and Falcons punch back in a big, big way.

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And they just melted. The Doom was on the perfect target, right?

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Like not only do they manage to kill off QWOP,

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She's the majority of the damage from Liquid, so if the Quap isn't there to constantly spam the Shadow Strike,

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it's kind of hard for Monkey to do the heavy lifting on his own, and they were just plumped up together.

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The Sonic Wave was well stolen by Rubik, and overall, EpiCenter here was pretty much perfect.

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Pulse Promise is good, but Queen of Pain is still not casting spells, she's doomed, so it doesn't really change a lot.

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She still dies in the end afterwards.

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That was a beautiful stolen snipe away from Grypt.

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Looks really good.

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I still think he didn't steal Shadow Strike by the way.

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Probably won still, but isn't able to.

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Also in that fight snaking, he did a very smart thing buying back after the BKBs.

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Silencing them then.

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One thing that you can always do as silencer is, as long as you're saving the buyback,

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even if you die in a fight, you just buyback and use the...

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and use the Global again.

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They had reload by the way, but they didn't want to use defensively here

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This whole time I guess a key wasn't really sure the communication is always with your carry

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Can you stay do we go out? But it has to be done in

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What less than a second you have to decide that this time around they decided to stick around and it didn't really work out

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We have the heart rate monitor graph coming back

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That's what you like to see. I guarantee that's the heart of all the players in this game. There's ups and downs

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When probability has shifted yet again, closer to a very even game right now, so favoring

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Liquid, but as you've just seen, if a Mark can find the correct Doom, a lot can change

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in these fights.

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I mean, eventually he can find multiple Dooms, he's buying the Refresher, maybe an Aghanin's

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at this point is also honestly an option.

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He bought the Shard, by the way.

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So with the Devourer, I think there are better options now, like that you can

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take Ancient's.

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This Shard is pretty good on Doom, not only because it gives you two charges, like your

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abilities are stronger when you devour.

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And there's a couple of ancients that you really become kinda broken when you take them,

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the Prowler, like you have a BKB Piercing disable with it, and you get a pretty nice

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ravage from the Crokers.

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Maybe you'll just be a simple man, get himself a Granite Golem.

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That's an option of course as well. You have a tiny, you get like what, 16-17% HP?

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It's not bad for a hero that is already sitting on 5k.

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So if we will get Rain of Destiny from the Torment, I take him by 2 liquid.

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Now we have a refresher as well from Mal'Reen. Okay.

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He wants the Wisdom Shrine, this is like the normal play, but...

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Is he gonna get out of this one? Absolutely not.

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Sorry bro, 80 seconds on the sidelines, he has buyback.

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It's not really strange to see a Wisdom Shrine.

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When you're playing Ios, sometimes you want to relocate into the Wisdom Shrine area just to take it.

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Most of the time you're doing it on an enemy Wisdom Shrine, not on your own.

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your own. This time around he didn't really have the info where they were.

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See Falcons when I do anything from this, doesn't seem so, they're happy to back.

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Roshan potentially up in 30 seconds and they're gonna smoke actually, hoping to

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cap somebody off map. They saw the Queen of Pain blinking in her own jungle.

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There are some wards on the high ground but she is back to safety in the base.

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They have the double global right already. Top lane is pushed in but

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that's something the silencer can deal with so they're free to play the

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map. By the way, Crit, getting closer to level 25 as well. He's sitting on 23, 40% spell

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amp for Stolen Spells. When you're playing versus a Queen of Pain, sounds pretty damn good.

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But you can't get Shadow Strike though. He's gonna get it eventually.

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At the end of the game, like the last spell that he steals. Right now, Skeeter

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the boys roaming across the map. We almost had the satanic mosquito. We saw he almost died in that

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lost engagement, but now he'll be able to stand his ground even when the DKB expires.

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Also if he's the one that gets shadow struck, at least he'll now have an additional disco.

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Yeah, that's something that the supports on the radiant side didn't really go for.

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Whenever you're playing versus Queen of Pain, I think it's very important to get a couple of the spells, but these kind of supports...

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Sdownesser isn't really even in the fight most of the time, and Rubik just wants to itemize for himself.

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Valken's went into the Roshan pit hoping that the big man was up. This is a good time to be having Oracle, right?

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know that the Roshan fight is going to be the most important one, but you also know exactly

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when it's coming so you can set up a lot easier on Liquid.

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Let's see what Biobags look like, still 2 minutes out for Ace, still 2 minutes out

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for Tofu, can they afford to give away an Aegis and just hold for the Biobags to

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return?

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I think they will fight, I think they will most likely take a fight and not let them

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take ages because it's not the only ages but if it's cheese it's refresher it's

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way too much value in the pit. There we go congregations. Of course he

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took it for the bonus movement speed but the mini ravages not so many with the

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shard it's pretty good like on Doom so as the shivas has refresher of course

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as well ready. Aghanim Scepter is available on Ace. They find a ma first

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He's gonna turn there. There's gonna be this stun coming out of the croaker

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Okay, the loader saw me immediately on Mickey fortunes and comes through as well. So he'll be fine

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But now Falcons know that they're gonna go to bottom. They can don't bother relocate

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Okay, they're gonna try that in the meantime though. Nisha. This could be a bigger target

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He gets caught by himself here now reen able to jump the back line stopping a key and them from participating in this fight

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Nisha, he's still doomed. He's trying to get away

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He's not going to be allowed to do so Skeeter ends up bringing him down

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I don't know who died as well and the die back on the Oracle ace able to drag crit into the wukong's command

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They sure that the rubik does die and they did manage to bring down malrin

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But still Skeeter on the chase malrin brought back doesn't have to PKB all the refresher available

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But he broke off before he died toss on monkey. They break down the tree. They get him with a crocus done

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They get the kill on Mickey

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Spy back available but he does not want to have to use it. Looks like falcons have won the fight around the Roshan thing.

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Does he actually use it? Let's see, Queen of Pain or going through the Twin Gates? Okay, never mind.

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It seems like he will not be using it as Nisha is already down on the bot lane, focusing on outpushing, farming up a little bit.

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They attempted, they were picking out the silencer. I was thinking, okay, are they actually going to try this?

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They did try. They tried to relocate on top of him, but he just instantly globaled.

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And the Global not only protected him, it caught out Queen of Pain too, so they were able to jump the quap at the same time.

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Just... Snaking probably playing for himself, but having impact globally, of course.

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It's in the name of the spell, he's using it to perfection right now.

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Skeeter with an Aegis and Toe, he gave the cheese to the Doom, and then refresh a shod.

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We already saw the triple silence in game one, Snaking.

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This has to be fixed though, right?

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Oh, for sure. Yeah, this is super bugged.

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This is literally a bug. The fact that you can pick up the shard and give it to someone and then they can refresh and use the shard as well.

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Kind of silly.

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To be fair, I've seen a lot of silly things today.

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And I like that Naurin went for this Aion does. He recognizes that he's in a vulnerable position.

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If he dies again, it's a full dieback, but now it's going to be so much harder to actually kill him.

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Yeah, they have two heroes in danger, right? Queen of Pain on one side and the Sand King on the other, both heroes without buyback.

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Can anybody buy another fire to help deal with this airndesk?

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I mean you could. There are heroes that can do it, but I feel like they will not. Monkey King is going for an Abyssal on their side at least so...

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The supports probably aren't getting it, you could argue Bat, but not really a Bat item

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either.

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15k gold lead at the moment and we are entering tier 5 neutral item territory.

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We might not get there, Falcons might want to end before them, but...

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That's a good joke.

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That's funny.

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Falcons ending the game.

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Yeah, yeah.

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X out now for this IO.

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Who do you even burst on the side of Liquid anymore? What's the angle of approach for the next fight?

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For Liquid? Yeah.

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I still think the vision is their strength.

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Like you are playing with the Monkey King, he's jumping around the trees giving a lot of vision for the last soul.

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Whoever you catch basically you should be able to burst down.

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The problem is you are playing into Aegis and into Cheese. The best target to go for would still be Sand King, even through the Aeron disc.

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Maybe they could be able to bring him down after, but it's not easy.

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Certainly not, especially if a mistake could end the game, Nisha could die back.

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4 minutes remaining until he has that back online.

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Everybody else will have it though.

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Ace just needs like a couple more creeps to have this available, but it might come, the

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fight might arrive before he has it.

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Still 200 gold short.

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Dome is back with the speedscreep by the way.

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He was like, eh, that stun was okay, it was mediocre, I'd rather move a bit more

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quickly, gang.

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That rider's still 90 gold short of 5x.

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That's so, that's a tiny, global silence would be there, but they put him inside

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the Wukong's command and my goodness Skeeter. So far out. Guys extremely quickly. They should

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be able to get him afterwards. Global will come again but the double boundary strike

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from Mikkei ensures that they have the death on Skeeter confirmed. The secondary global

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is facing the enemy. Maureen is actually pumping up the epicenter thinking about

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going in. Okay. Goes in. Power strike is going to connect onto Ace as well as

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is Mikkei. Unfortunately, not enough damage to kill either of them. Ace will eventually die

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as Amar pops forward bringing in the scorched earth damage, but now Mal'Reem is in danger

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as well. He's eating so many spells from Nisha. This BKB of the Queen of Pain keeping

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her alive. Ace now, jumping in with his buyback. Skeeter getting himself forced away. He brought

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back for this. Wants to try and bring down the aisle. He'll succeed in this

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endeavor. Ace almost died yet would have been a dieback when he gets saved by the

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false promise. Unfortunately, that means that the spell is not available for Mikkei.

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Moskira gets something out of this fight. Monkey dead, 90 seconds. He does have buyback.

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Now the heroes that have died on Liquid all have buyback. That's the monkey king right now, the only one that's dead.

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And it seems like his buyback won't even be forced. Meanwhile on the other side, tiny boughtback.

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Like this is 18k network difference. Doesn't really matter at all anymore.

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I think this is all about buyback status. And as long as they keep Monkey without buying back,

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I think the next fight is kind of favored for Liquid.

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Both teams have two cores without buyback, or at least their buyback is on cooldown.

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The 40% by the way is up, of course, on Rubik and he did manage this last fight to steal the Shadow Strike.

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Well, this is another hour long game, my friend.

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It's Falcon's Liquid. Honestly, not shocked.

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Cinder and Sonsman, they've had a very different set of series than us most of these days.

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What's the earliest we think you've left the studio?

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11?

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Like a 10-30, 11, right? It's like our average time here.

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For us at least we have a much easier job than the coaches, the players just chilling talking meanwhile.

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Well, it's hard for Liquid and Falcons, they've been here all day playing, it's one of those days, but

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that's where fatigue, like you said, really comes into play. In these kind of situations

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it's really difficult to decide whether to buy back, whether or not to. Do you have all the spells?

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What it takes to take a teamfight?

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And like just one wrong spell can decide a teamfight.

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60 minutes back ends, you're getting those items, whether the players like it or not.

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Amar does pick up an Agonym Scepter.

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Now if they can, okay check this out right, here's the play, here's the play.

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Because of the speed aura right, you can get close to both the IO and the Tether targets.

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You just stand there, doom on both of them, then all of a sudden the fight's super simple.

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Doom the IO and the Oracle at the same time.

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I mean sounds simple, probably isn't, but yeah he does have the axe blessing.

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So he's got the mute, he's got the break.

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He has everything, he applies everything with his DOOM, and he has the Permas Corsair because of the level 30, so the movement speed on him is insane.

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Alright, Valkyries, I'm not gonna let this one extend too late, they remember what happened in game 1.

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Here they come, Hamar going in, he gets hexed by the IO though, before he can use his spells, there we go, finally the AoE Doom will come out and it prevents the usage of the Wukong's command.

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It will be a false promise though, thrown on to Mikkei, Tofu also spamming out the reign of destiny.

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Making sure that he will keep Mikkei alive, and he's good.

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The first Global Silence and Doom was used.

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Liquid, go chase!

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Okay, so everybody who has Refreshers has refreshed?

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Okay, okay.

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Nikudo let this one go in the light.

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Alright, surviving for now, let's wait for our buybacks to return.

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Who's actually favoured at this stupidly late portion of the game?

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I have no idea.

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I wish I did, but I have absolutely no idea.

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It all comes down to the way that that fight starts and who you can burst down first.

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You saw the situation.

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If Doom manages to use Doom before the Hex, I think it's a completely different story,

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a different fight.

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What he doesn't, he gets Hexed, it delays a little bit, buys time for the monkey.

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How many times in your life, Lizard, have you seen Ayo build Disperser?

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Not too many. I have to admit.

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This has to be a first, like, professionally, right?

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Well, here's the thing, right?

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Ayo is also level 25, and he actually took the attack that is the ally target thing,

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with 50% damage, the crit screen, or whatever it used to be called, so...

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Sure, go for Disperser, go for some damage on Io as well.

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Just attack the same target.

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He gets to this, it will be the first one on record of having this item on an Io.

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Well, now I really want them to just extend this game, you know?

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It's always fun seeing new items emerge.

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Yeah, let's see the tier 5s.

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Zoom, Blood, Rite.

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Okay.

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used to be not the tier 5 item it's back spider legs for snaking divine regalia

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for Skeeter book of the dead for Malrin spider legs with doom the zoom for

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the crit rubik fallen sky for tofu spider legs for ace and then double

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minutes or horn for Nisha as well as Mickey

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20k gold leads to absolutely meaningless just waiting two and a half

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minutes for these buybacks to return but liquid also know that Roshan will be up in 30 seconds so

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they have a very awkward decision to make honestly this the zoom blood right with the timeless

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enchantment from rubik sounds like absolutely insane shadow strike at least has been reclaimed by

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quap so he doesn't have shadow strike anymore but he's got 13 curiosity stacks without the

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ones being used right like in in the fight itself these debuffs from rubik are going to

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last forever basically you have to dispel the spell like whatever he casts

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and you have to dispel it or it's going to last like a minute and a half he steals

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the lasso now I wonder how large the range will be like the cat range

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question right what the larger cost range does that also extend to the

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bounce of the lasso like it's a secondary target also expand I'm not

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I think it does.

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Oh, might have a doom coming out.

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There's a loader, so we immediately out onto Micke.

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They jump to the back line. Ace was looking for snaking.

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Unable to find him. Force to come back to what's great.

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Rubik, though, they found Rubik and they kill him.

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He does buy back, though. Skeeter jumping onto Ace,

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wanting to bring down the back rider.

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Spider legs will get him away.

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And inside the Wukong, Omar is losing way too much HP.

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He needs to run away.

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He still will try to get himself to safety,

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but he's dragged up the hill by the lasso of Ace.

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He is going to end up dead.

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will need to buy back if he wants to fight around this Roshan pit. Team Liquid

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really heads up play from the entire team to just protect Mikkei, not allow him to

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get doomed and killed off. And the last two as well. The thing is, can they delay

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this long enough for Rosh to start changing homes? I don't think they can, like 40 seconds.

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They're gonna try, Maureen jumps in, epicenter! With the borrow strike, they burst through the back rider and the IO.

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So, both of them dead two minutes, no buyback!

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Well, you asked the question, Mal-Reen answered, they've opened the space for Rosh and all of a sudden it's Falcons that are gonna claim this upcoming Aegis.

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Yeah, killing them is a way of delaying, I guess. They didn't have to delay, they could just go in and kill everything in the pit.

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They will have buybacks, by the way. That's the silver lining, at least for Liquid.

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The buybacks are down for 20 more seconds on both of these. They bought back a long time ago, so...

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They should have them for the upcoming fight.

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65 minutes have gone by.

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Skeeter has been maxed off for quite some time.

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Man, Calvary, look at this damage.

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That was so sexy.

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He doesn't even have too many items, by the way, to pump up the damage on Sand King.

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His inventory looks super weird.

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If someone showed you this inventory, that Sand King has got...

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has got. Like it would be one of those guess the herald heroes series. Like what the hell

13:40:58.860 --> 13:41:04.380
is going on? There's no way you think this is like a 65 minute sanking but here he is.

13:41:06.380 --> 13:41:10.860
Biobags have returned. Skeeter wants to force some of them out. They know that they're down to

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Biobags of their own so they need to equalize this somehow.

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More on the high ground trying to just hit onto these racks.

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Shadow Strike is finally stolen by Crit, so a lot of damage to go back towards Nisha.

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At least they have Purge right to spam, Tofu can instantly, you see the moment Shadow Strike

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gets applied, instantly the hero pings it, they need to get rid of them.

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This damage cannot be neglected.

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20 seconds until Team Liquid are a full compliment again.

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Shadow Strike and Sonic Wave spam from Nisha.

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What some time but eventually they knock over the buildings and they will not do the same mistake

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That rider is up in five seconds. I as long as that hero is up

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I don't think you can comfortably take high ground

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No matter what kind of an advantage you have ages or not

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The same thing will happen the less so in wukong just have so much innate

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Symbiosis or whatever the word is at this point. I can't even think but

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They complement each other. That's what I was trying to get to.

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And then you walk on command to just completely zone out the enemy team.

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They won too many fights exactly that way.

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Ace now has an AC.

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He's chilling with that one.

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Even more damage output for this tiny.

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And for Memorial as well, you know.

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Mars no slouch in the right-clicking department. Yes, the primary objective is using the doom spell, but

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He's allowed to hit, you know, give off a couple of refernal blades. She can make a difference in the fights

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This Aegis will be reclaimed in two and a half minutes

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See Falcon just want to hold on to it long enough to get close to having their own big buybacks come back with Gouda

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It's only the crit and the doom, right?

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Like Rubik and the doom.

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They're the ones that don't have it.

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Snaking is lacking a little bit of gold and that's it.

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Thank you.

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Now that he has the Paganum shot with the spurts, you'll reload bottom, throw out

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the book of the dead, just keep shoving out the wave.

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It's a pretty garbled chart, by the way, just to say this late in the game.

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early on if you get it, it's okay but overall doesn't feel that incredible.

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How close is he? He can purchase this Disperser if he wants to. I think he has

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enough gold, he actually doesn't have enough gold for buyback after, so he needs to farm

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a little bit more just to have that double dispell for himself.

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Even before he gets the Disperser, it's only the fourth ever time of all time that

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that diffusel blade has been bought on IO.

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There it is, he's just gonna buy out,

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it's only 80 gold shots.

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First ever item on IO, let's go.

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They're just finding any single way that they can

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to deal with the global,

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to deal with the Shadow Strike spam from Rubik as well.

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This cursor, definitely a choice.

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Like the movement speed buff as well,

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isn't it really that bad?

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if you can use it on someone. Actually, if you can use it on a target that gets doomed or if you

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can use it on anyone when the doom is there, the movement speed should allow you at least to run

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away from him, right? So the idea is there, it's kind of nice. They have one on him and one on

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Monkey King as well.

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69 minutes into the game, 42 to 29 to 14k lead but who the hell cares about gold?

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Nice.

13:45:08.240 --> 13:45:09.240
420, 69, yeah.

13:45:09.240 --> 13:45:13.200
We missed a lot of big numbers but we didn't miss this one at least.

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We had a game boy, we missed 3, 2, 2 and 420 in the same game.

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Aki would be proud. He's a number memeber.

13:45:22.440 --> 13:45:24.440
He's in the game. We even missed a 6-7 meme for them.

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Yeah.

13:45:27.440 --> 13:45:29.440
Liquid smoked up.

13:45:29.440 --> 13:45:32.440
The Aegis has been reclaimed and they know that they have a short window.

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They're both Doom and the Rubik do not have buybacks.

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So now's the time to shell up, play safe, take zero risks.

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Team Liquid will not be able to find them.

13:45:44.440 --> 13:45:48.440
I'm not able to punish them, so I guess we're at least playing for another few minutes.

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Missile blade now out for the sand king.

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I like this a lot, actually.

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It's nice.

13:45:58.440 --> 13:46:03.440
He was missing a little bit of physical damage, but right now with the agonies blessing as well.

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Then on top of that you've got a Bissell, you've got Stinger to work with.

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Nobody really knows where each other are. There are some decent wards outside of the base for Falcons.

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To give them some decent information, allow them to stay safe while they farm up, to make sure that they have a buyback available for them all.

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There's a couple of level 30s by the way that we still didn't get. Like 70 minutes in, these talents are big.

13:46:33.440 --> 13:46:38.920
Like Sand King is missing his, it's what his old Sandstorm used to do, just getting some

13:46:38.920 --> 13:46:45.880
extra Sandstorm slow and blind would be pretty good for the upcoming fights.

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Batrider as well, by the way, pretty far away, only level 27 for now.

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Five heroes at level 30, or four heroes at level 30, we're about to get the fifth.

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Snaking actually might be the one to get the first.

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Rapier IO by the way.

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No way is he buying Rapier.

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He's buying it.

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easy by an rapier. I mean this is a gigachat, the IO. They find two rapiers. Doom is going

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to be thrown out though directly onto Mickey. Mickey is just gone. They didn't have the

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IO or the Queen of Pain here to protect him. Now Tofu also in some danger. Eki will show

13:47:17.160 --> 13:47:21.800
though. Here he comes, putting out the right click damage. Nisha also has a rapier. Now

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Rean doesn't die because Skeeter interrupts it with the beautiful toss to the backside.

13:47:25.560 --> 13:47:29.480
Snakey gets the global silence out. Tofu is dying. He's falling low. They can't

13:47:29.480 --> 13:47:31.480
heal him up in time. Tofu die.

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Now Rean on the right.

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Now Rean though, does end up losing his own life.

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That's going to enable Nisha to want to re-engage the fight.

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And especially Mikkei to chase.

13:47:38.480 --> 13:47:40.480
But Amar finds Mikkei on the trees.

13:47:40.480 --> 13:47:41.480
Zeki is there.

13:47:41.480 --> 13:47:43.480
The Global Silence comes first.

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Mikkei is going to die.

13:47:45.480 --> 13:47:47.480
It's a dieback for the Monkey King.

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They lose the IO and the rapier on the ground.

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Aisto finding an incredible lasso.

13:47:51.480 --> 13:47:53.480
Bragging two heroes onto the high ground.

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Allowing Nisha to rein in the damage with his own divine rapier.

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Don't.

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Don't.

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Get the refresh, get the doom out onto the Queen of Pain.

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She is alone.

13:48:02.640 --> 13:48:04.140
Skeeda's gonna jump on top of her.

13:48:04.140 --> 13:48:05.640
Skeeda's gonna get the kill.

13:48:05.640 --> 13:48:08.880
I.O. came back with a fireback, picks up Arapia, but it won't matter.

13:48:08.880 --> 13:48:10.360
He ends up dead.

13:48:10.360 --> 13:48:12.640
The two rapiers, they're poofed gone.

13:48:12.640 --> 13:48:15.840
Team Liquid get wiped after a double Rafaia play.

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It backfires massively and now Falcon the poise to win Game 3 and go to the

13:48:20.680 --> 13:48:22.720
final day of PGR Wallachia.

13:48:22.720 --> 13:48:26.000
What a gigachat play from Team Liquid.

13:48:26.000 --> 13:48:32.640
I mean, in the end, unfortunately, they work out for them, but what an absolute giga-shot

13:48:32.640 --> 13:48:36.120
play to get the rapier on Io and the co-op Tofu.

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One rapier is still on the ground, by the way.

13:48:37.720 --> 13:48:38.720
They didn't pick it up.

13:48:38.720 --> 13:48:39.720
They forgot it.

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Who cares about the rapiers?

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We're trying to kill these heroes.

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Tofu managing to blink away, but Amar will not allow this escape to happen.

13:48:45.520 --> 13:48:46.880
Skeeter is there as well.

13:48:46.880 --> 13:48:48.560
Ace, will he be able to find the lasso?

13:48:48.560 --> 13:48:49.560
He does.

13:48:49.560 --> 13:48:50.880
Sonic Way from Nisha pushing them back.

13:48:50.880 --> 13:48:52.960
He got a new rapier into his inventory.

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Amar is on the front line, here.

13:48:54.640 --> 13:49:00.880
BKB is about to finish. Nisha really wants to try and bring down this dude. He gets another BKB off,

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as Malrin jumps in on top of him, peppering them with the shadow strikes. Once his BKB ends,

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he is in a lot of danger. They will play cautiously on the side of Falcons. They know how much

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damage he can deal and they also know they have the numerical advantage. A drop-thrapier,

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call-up King Arthur to grab Excalibur or something, man. They have Burge and they have

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Last on rubik keep in mind so he can jump in catch the pin of pain on his own as well

13:49:25.120 --> 13:49:31.560
It's not all about the doom. It's not all about the rapier on skitter. We're just global sounds. Okay, forcing out the Lotus

13:49:32.040 --> 13:49:34.240
Global used up. He doesn't have a second

13:49:35.760 --> 13:49:41.380
Last so on top of the aoe doom from our mall. Everybody's dead on team liquid. What?

13:49:42.160 --> 13:49:46.920
GG well played will be coming out falcons have done it. They steal the rapier

13:49:46.920 --> 13:49:51.160
They steal the victory and they earn a slot on the final day.

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Liquid will at least try to do something with Mickey, but he doesn't have enough damage.

13:49:55.720 --> 13:49:56.760
It's over.

13:49:56.760 --> 13:50:04.360
Falcons after 74 minutes have cracked the Liquid Code and earned a spot in the final game.

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They cracked the Liquid Code.

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Liquid cracked it a little bit as well by buying the Double Ray period.

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It was such a great idea, such a gigachat idea by Iron Queen of Pain.

13:50:15.000 --> 13:50:19.880
Unfortunately for Liquid, this time around it didn't work out.

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The game ends with three rapiers, all of them on the ground, Falcons.

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This is the heist of the century.

13:50:26.360 --> 13:50:28.640
I feel like I'm watching Money in the Bank.

13:50:28.640 --> 13:50:31.600
Shiva, what the hell did I just witness?

13:50:31.600 --> 13:50:35.120
Well, we'll talk about the positives in a little bit.

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Normally, that's why I always want to go after a game, especially like this.

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It was very entertaining.

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But I was invested and then I feel like I got robbed of the end of that game, like the

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back and the forth, both teams, and then you have the rapier pick up on the IO, the queen

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of pain, and whilst they get them into the inventory, suddenly monkeys dead and they're

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scrambling to go for the fight, like the end of the game was fumbled.

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I really want, like I agree with you, I wanted that one last fight, that one last

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moment of getting falcons, they identified a small lapse of positioning, maybe there's

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some communication happening, like guys are getting rapier, guys are doing this,

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blah blah blah and then that jump falcons you know pounce now we needed that and

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they go I would not want to one last high game did produce because it was really

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back and forth like you could see it from start to finish pretty much it was

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hard to tell which team is gonna win and this is another 60 plus minute game

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where game gets super chaotic and you know who's very good at late game

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ever since this squad got together and ever since like they even were on

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on Tundra, this is one of the worst teams to play against because they know that late

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game kind of always belongs to them.

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Honestly, I wish this was a Vest of Five.

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I'll be honest.

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Maybe I'm being a little bit greedy here, but like the way that both teams navigated this

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game is the idea of, you know, Falcons, Amar in the early game taking over a bit

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of the map, then Liquid identifying, wait a second, we need to prove together, we

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need to go for some kills.

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They kill Amar two, three times and the triangle always steps up like that.

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They found the problems, both teams had to solve them, and then we got to get to this

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point in the game where it was just the epicness of the late game, the clutch factor, and Crit,

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I will say, he clutched up multiple times, stealing Lasso at the bottom rack, grabbing

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the back rider in, then taking a Sonic wave to assist in the next kill, multiple dagger

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steals, like, Crit, he might have kind of just put it save Falcons in so many clutch

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moments in this game.

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Yeah, I also want to touch upon our atomization as well, just a tiny bit, because on Falcons

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you have three refreshers like this item has been nerfed in multiple ways but it

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doesn't refresh items anymore but it does refresh abilities and they have very

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good abilities that they want to go in for the second round of spells like these

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double global silences double epicenters and the double dooms these are the big

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ones and on the other side there aren't any and they were unable to like

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you pop your BKB and during that time it that feel like they need something

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sure you have a lot of ways to heal yourself up with the monkey and IO. They try to itemize in the end

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to get a disperser. They bid on IO, but yeah, Crit, he kind of nailed it there. Like, his inventory

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doesn't look like it's a 60 plus, 70 plus minute inventory, but he did a lot of heavy lifting. And

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by a lot of heavy lifting, a lot of big saves coming up with his telekinesis on his teammates

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as well. Yeah, a lot of a lot of nice a lassoes as well. Obviously, it was a very back and

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forth game, so I'm sure that there's quite the high from the players right now and to

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witness that we are heading over to select so starting by the Skeeter.

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Absolutely that is right. I'm with Skeet got right here, sir. It is rare in Dota 2 that

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we get to see that hype kind of ending. A lot of these games are over their stomps.

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You know, it's been about 20 minutes, but this was action until the very last

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moment. Absolute pleasure to watch. What was it like to play? It was pretty stressful. I think I

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lost 10 years of my life in this game. I mean, why? You were right on the edge. I mean, you've

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played tiny three games in a row, so much experience, so hype, and it came down to you. And you were

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just wapping people to shot at the end of the game. It's got to feel good a little bit, right?

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Yeah, it feels good to play. It's just, and also the ending was amazing. We managed to win,

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and this is like the best tournament of this year for us. So we are all happy that

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you're making progress and yeah just happy with the game for you.

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Absolutely earlier today we talked to ATF he said that he felt he was back but

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everybody else on this team was still grieving uh had not reached their

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maximum yet. Do you guys feel like you are starting to get back into that form uh

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you in particular do you feel like you're rising to as we have seen your

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heights before? I'm definitely only up and up I've had

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pretty bad first half of the season personally but I think uh

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Finally, the work is kind of paying in showing off.

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Absolutely.

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Well, we can definitely tell.

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So do you like playing tiny?

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I mean, is that something that they're forcing upon you?

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Is that something that you're asking for?

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What's the deal with that hero?

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I love it.

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I've always been a tiny player.

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Whenever I was forced to play plus four in pubs,

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I would also pick tiny.

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So this hero is fun.

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He also has some cool voice lines.

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Absolutely.

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Some of the most iconic.

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But are we going to see anything different in the lower

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brackets tomorrow?

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Are you going to switch it up?

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Or is it just tiny every time that they'll

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I'll give it to you. No banner. Then you'll see something different sound like a threat, but then we're gonna get hush cars

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Then we're gonna get other stuff. I mean, it's kind of dangerous for them. Okay. How are you gonna do in the lowers tomorrow?

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You guys are gonna get some sleep

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I know that it is very difficult to play a match late in the night that wake up

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Play another one tomorrow and then go to grand finals. So how are you gonna cope with this?

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Yeah, we we had to wake up at like eight in the morning. We played the first and last year

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So yeah, we all very tired. So you're gonna just go back home

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Maybe put pop some a lot on it and get some good sleep. I do hope so now you do have to live up to something here

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I you just eliminated liquid they did the same kind of journey that you guys did last year

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They had the longest game ever, but they were too weak to do it

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So I need to know are you guys going to be making it to the finals?

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I know that Mal Ring was very excited to face off against Kittrick again

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He was pawing off in there. How much does it mean to you guys to get into that final?

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I mean we would love to play and win Valakia as a tournament because it's one of the tournaments we have never won

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So and it's very important for me personally to try to win at least one turn of each series

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So Valakia is definitely up there and I'm very motivated

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All right

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Well, you can definitely tell by your gameplay the stakes are high the gameplay is tight and skeet is back, baby

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Thank you so much mr. Skeeter. Thank you Falcons. We'll see you guys tomorrow before then back to the pale

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got to catch them all that's that's where it's at right if falcons can get

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this title first and last today was very long they're going up against the word

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tomorrow which they have not faced yet but so far falcons has only lost two

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series this entire valakia run the first one was against betton second one was

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against liquid and they got the revenge here maybe they'll get a chance to

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get the revenge tomorrow as well yeah I'm just getting like you know when xg

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played the last tournament and you could see every series like oh wow

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They're learning they're improving. I feel I'm getting the same feeling here falcon like every series

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It's like a slightly new tweak of play a new hero kind of integrated in maybe a new strike being formed

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So I I'm expecting them to be contended in any series they play. Yeah, they they looked very good

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We said that they were definitely like group stage looked good

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But they are powering up and they're making a miraculous lower bracket around pretty much. They

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Removed spirit. They removed like some of the bigger teams part vision now liquid as well

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So, definitely a team that is on a good way to potentially win another one, because it does feel that, you know, Skeeter, I like the motivation as well, you know, as you said, collecting them all, and want to see if they're going to be able to do it, because playing first and then playing last as well, that is a bit tiring, and potentially another eight games tomorrow, could affect them.

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Especially especially for the store mark, you know, he's playing pubs to like two in the morning

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You know, he doesn't matter. He doesn't matter tomorrow be fine

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I think it's the rest of the you know the adults on the team

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They're gonna have to try and manage their sleep a little bit better

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I'm sure they'll find their motivation in somewhere with Peter

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It's gotta catch them all mal rain going up against his former teammate potentially in the grand finals in in Kirtich

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That would be cool storyline

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But the Aurora has got something to say about that as well and Aurora only lost their first series

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today when they lost against Betoom in that upper bracket finals that was also

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a very close series for Witness also with very long games.

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I mean no matter what tomorrow it's BB or Aurora winning the first tournament of

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their year in the in the season Falcon's getting their second tournament

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of the year then tying with Yandex behind of course Tundra who were just

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you know demolishing it before wins so no matter what I think we are gonna

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get an important storyline from the winner as we move towards the TI season.

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Yeah we have our schedule for tomorrow as well it should not come as a

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a surprise to you that we've got two series coming your way. With Betbyn waiting in the

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finals, do you have some hot picks on the first series there Lacoste?

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I think Falcons are going to take it. I feel like they learn a lot as tournament progressed

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as well and you can see that they're not afraid to go like super late game or also

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not a team that closes out the games relatively early on even though we are seeing Prime

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Nightfall. I still believe in Falcons taking this one. I don't know if it's a hot

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fake but I still see them as a better team. Yeah I'm kind of agreeing. I feel like Falcons

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will give the the better grand finals I think. I agree. I think like for the grand finals the vibe

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I think yeah Falcons will bring it but for the first best of three it's like who wakes up better

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who has the better rest. They both have two stubborn carries that play mellotone and yeah

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exactly. Well they do have a little bit of extra sleep they or at least there's an hour

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later start time tomorrow compared to the rest of the event so far so they get a little bit of

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extra rest there and it's much needed after such a long day but that's it for today this was the

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final series we know that tomorrow is championship Sunday and it is going to be some great Dota

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being played if today was any indication we're gonna have some long days as well so long games

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rather like we've had long days already but yeah thank you so much for tuning in we'll be back

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tomorrow with more dota 2 one hour later start don't be late aurora up against falcons we'll see you tomorrow

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Sa'i sushi udhi.

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Udi kukelyada.

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Kasr kaspiyada.

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Papparuti rudhi.

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Sa'i sushi udhi.