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to be fair, he's thinking he's died a lot.

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Congregations into the Doom, into the Sonic Wave, into the Boundless, even Wheel of Wonder

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it's not enough as he tepees out in the midst of all of it.

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ParaVision has wasted so many resources now, Satanic, and I feel like he's applied for

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the Roar still there and that is going to be an easy kill under the position one for

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ParaVision.

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Malrin, telekinesis saved, there's the egg with the Sunray as well.

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SSS Kankoshin hitting two with the Axis to follow, but now retreat mode for Paravision.

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SSS trying with the congregation to de-begain onto two with the whip as well, but it's not enough.

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They just don't do any damage to this lineup.

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There is backup inbound.

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There is, nice basket on top of Skeeter, Malrin takes out a courier first.

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The Global Silence comes out, so Skeeter should be fine now.

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The Astral step the egg place as well nine class in the midst of this turns into the soldier focusing on the egg

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They do not get him actually

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fellas pops at the last millisecond and this is

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Disaster for Falcons they lose three and Amar now being chased will have to doom in retreat

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Definitely not getting that kill Amar getting hounded now by the monkey king

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It is a support though nine class maybe biting off a little bit too much

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Scorch earth might be able to finish the job of the Sunrays

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They're not enough to heal him out, but a Marga's baited into getting that kill

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And even if they connect that he has discs so they can't re-program. Yeah, let's just jump in onto the quap

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He's gonna get doomed

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And that's the death of no one again. 9th class caught off guard gets out of toss gets killed off

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Fly back for the monkey king. They don't have one for no one though, but they're gonna call GG

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No, I know there's just they're out of steam here

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You will get it with that axe.

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My homebammy hits all four heroes.

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They're going to be able to clean up the rubik.

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Where's the follow up?

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with the dive in, into the sunray and here comes Nisha.

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He's going to apply so much pressure,

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Frank getting hit thanks to a huge load as McKay is there

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with the sonic wave, not doing the greatest connection though.

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As Wits will tumble, Nisha just barely surviving though.

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Does take out eventually, he ends with a double kill.

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And in the meantime, these heroes on the dire side are just melting.

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All right, three ages for Nisha.

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Indubitably, as ace and company, they get the roar onto the tiny who gets boxed into

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the sonic wave.

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The egg is going to pop here, and so is Tiny, and likely the folks for South American Rejects

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as they lose three, make it four.

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Got us setting up for this.

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Oh, the mid-gank.

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Dark Mago.

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Staying alive as Nisha has to blink out and now a tough snowball does connect

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Nisha takes out to the poison attack and now we're seeing the fight for strike on to Tofus

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They're gonna have a good chance to do it actually cranking ultra aggressive dark moggo's there as well

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Nisha they are horribly outnumbered even the buyback coming up from acne wants to die 16 back Sonic wave only onto one

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But Frank in a lot of trouble snowballs coming for him. Do they have the punch?

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They don't need it. That is the depth of the Slardar Dark Manga all alone.

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And that is a dieback for the Viper.

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I'm going to keep this going.

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You can see 100% win rate on Miro so far at the tournament.

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Need to be fair they've only lost two games right so there's a lot of 100%

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when they Mars, Mars, Johnson, Sheeva, they actually spear back Kiritich.

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The Roshan is still alive. Kiritich will grab it. Ekisgooba Nova is in a recent position.

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Can they get away from it? No they cannot. Doesn't get the stun off but a nice dodge from Kiritich.

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Nira will take away the Aegis though with the finger of death as Mikoto is on the back side of the fight

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looking towards Katao. He kills him but they found a shackle onto Mikoto. The Queen of Pain is dead.

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In the meantime, inside the Roshan Pier, Kiritich almost lost his own life, but the false promise keeps him alive.

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Nightfall unable to kill him off. Instead, it's the Starbreaker that puts both him and the Mars in jeopardy.

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People only talk about infinite scaling, you know, your lines, your punches, whatever. This is the real scaling.

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Nightfall, he gets jumped on. There's the Abyssal Blade on top of him. They want to kill this tiny.

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They're gonna try and bail him out though with the Sonic Wave pushing these heroes back, but the Wukong's command is too good.

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Supernova comes in the middle of them and they did kill Miro, Kiritich, can he beat the sound by himself? No.

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He will actually be able to get the kill in the end. How the hell did that happen? Just died and Bukong's off, they popped.

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Yeah, he didn't kill the egg. He killed the Phoenix post there.

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He died that fast? WS? Yeah, back.

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Kiritich fought from his O.D. there with the Solar Guardian, but the store breaker from Miro!

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In the middle of the fight, make sure that WS and the guap are both dead.

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He's getting gone on and there you go. They see it. They completely negated the blast off.

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Yes, we'll still find the spear onto him though, pushing him towards Makoto and the gang.

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Drop Shooter, we're up. Oh! Get him!

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Dude, it was like 70% HP or some shit. Like what the hell?

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I think if you brought all five heroes from Aurora here in the pit and just fought these three.

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Literally just one shot boundless strike. My god.

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Okay, how will they hold this?

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Makoto buys some time, Lightfall is going to try to jump immediately onto Oracle.

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That's managed to burst through Kataomi, who buys back instantly.

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Now GPK with his BKB going back in towards Lightfall.

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Kaori trying to create some space with the chaotic offering, but it's not enough.

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Ursa is going to die without buyback.

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Kataomi already back into the fray, so even if they kill this GPK, Huskar once,

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will never be able to do it twice.

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2nd lane of Rax being taken, Mira found again within the trees, does manage to get away

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for a moment, dodging the boundless drive from Kiritich.

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Shrek will be there, Umarang's out as well, he might actually burn out, barely get back

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into the fountain.

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Nicoto trying to do what he can to slow down Big Boom team, but they do not care about

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anything, as long as Nightful is dead, there's nothing to really threaten GPK or Kiritich.

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Jump in and get set out

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It's pretty good shard game versus clockwork as well

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It's also a great opportunity for the Lasso. Double Lasso coming in from Malarini, just picked up the Agendim Scepter immediately into the solo Guardian.

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They lose the pango and the Rubik. Output going forward onto Eki. Starbreaker is there as well.

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All he did, I didn't even found it. I think that this game is maybe global. Pango is up.

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Global number one. Remember they're going to deal with three globals because they gave snaking the refresher shot.

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There's Lobo number two, Starbreaker out onto this nature's prophet to kill him off.

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And there's Lobo number three.

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They silence all the heroes, they silence all the Daughters, Team Falcons!

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Now, it's Koby Fair's getting to that item.

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He's about to get lassoed here, Sonic Wave.

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That's the damage, Lobo silence will be there and actually stolen lasso,

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dragging Ace back into the base.

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Skeleton's gonna start beating down on top of him.

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And Ace is gonna be the one that falls.

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Amar gets healed up, taken to the fountain and lives.

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Now everything from here on out is a bonus Sonic Wave out onto Snake King.

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Snake King is gonna die really quickly.

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Skeeter will be able to get the Avalanche toss out onto Sonic Wave.

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Solar Sonic Wave thrown back by Crit but Mickey there to put down the Wukong's command.

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Skeeter's losing his life very quickly.

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There's a doom applied to the Queen of Pain but Tosu with the false promise

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ensures that Nisha will stay living.

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There will be a secondary silence.

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They'll try their best with Malrin and this epicenter and it's gonna work out.

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Ace and Nisha both end up dead. Miki right now, trying to fight through all of this with the help of Ekki.

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Is he strong enough? Tofu will buy back to try and help him.

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Skeeter right in front of him doesn't die. The BKB, it might be expired, but so is the Monkey Kings. They have the burst damage.

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It's not all about the Rape here on Skeeter. It's just Global sounds, okay?

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Forcing out the Lotus.

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Global, used up.

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He doesn't have a second-

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Oh, there's the last one!

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There's the stolen lasso on top of the AoE Doom from Amal.

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everybody's dead on Team Liquid. What GG well played will be coming out. Falcons have done it.

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They steal the rapiers, they steal the victory. Greetings, DotA fans, and welcome to Championships

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Sunday at PGL Valahia Season 8. You just saw there the highlights. Amazing games yesterday.

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I mean I really mean that and a super long day for all of the talent all of the crew and indeed the competitors team liquid

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They left it all out there on the mat not going to be joining us today

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But joining me today on our panel. I have been so happy to work with these guys

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We've got

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Professor Jenkins looking very smart today got the patches on the elbows and of course we are a player

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I know I just never thought we would ever cross paths. I never thought we would meet

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So remember you're back in the team secret days and it's been a true blessing to work with you over the course of this tournament

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So thank you for your insight. It's been great. Thank you. I appreciate the

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Introduction I've actually loved being here. I'm having a great time so far. I think you guys are being great

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So tempted to this it was just a heartfelt moment, but I'm so tempted to say 10

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I can get it

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It's like right on the other tip of my tongue. It's so funny that we talked about the moment you sit on the couch

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It doesn't matter your your accolades. It doesn't matter who time ti grand finalists. It's like that's a contra crater wraps the shit

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It's the lesson you learn as soon as you sit on the sofa players lose all respect for you no matter what you've done

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But let's take a look at what was going on yesterday

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Obviously as I said, I mean just amazing matches. I was a little bit worried for Betboum

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I think they've been the best team here at this season of a lot here

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But that are Aurora gaming bet boom matchup was really cool

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But then the one everyone is talking about talk about my inability to read a room

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I thought Falcons were done about two series ago. I thought they looked like they just well

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We need to get a handle on this patch. We need to learn what our heroes are

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They have been

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Electric through that lower bracket and getting none more so than yesterday that team liquid series

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particularly that third game if you haven't seen it if you were tucked up in bed go watch it. It was an absolute bang

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The most exciting thing about this will okay, and how the bracket has progressed is like I

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Don't feel like any of the teams just started incredibly strong

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I get that yeah boom like they've had a really good run so far do not get me wrong like I respect what they've done

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How much they've improved?

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But they've lost games to they lost the game to liquid they lost the game to Aurora

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Like you said that series could have gone either way the first game went like one plus hours if

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depending on who won that one

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The other team could have won the series right so

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It's just there's been so many two ones that like every team has had to power up until this point that I

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Couldn't tell you

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Who I think is going to win it could be it could be any team. It just yeah legitimately between

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Yesterday and today in the night who powered up from their pubs from the team talks from the scrims

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Who powered up from that moment, especially this game when the Falcons versus liquid?

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I mean it looked like anybody could take it off. It really felt so

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insane that

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Nisha was playing out of his mind and then suddenly he just stopped feeding around the back and then suddenly he's playing good again

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And so did the rest of his team as well. It was

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Basically a photograph. I actually couldn't tell what's gonna take this game

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It was the same as I stayed up and watched it last night, you know

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Just for let you know a bit of inside baseball at home

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What we're supposed to do when we finish is go to bed get refreshed

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Wake up early learn what teams are gonna be talking about do some prep coming

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That's kind of the the flow of what talent do but I couldn't take my eyes off this series. It does not look good

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That's not us. No, not that we are up until the goddamn 1 a.m. Every night watching the game

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It's like for some reason every willockia. We're like, okay

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This is gonna be the one like some team is gonna two-oh stomp, you know

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But it's like it's the tournament of stand-ins, but the stand-in teams like gig a power-up

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You know somehow like liquid with ecchi doing super well

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you know, Bet Boom, a team that does, like, okay, in the ESL events, you know, okay, in some of the blast events,

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and then all of a sudden in Milwaukee, like, this is, this is where they power on, maybe, because it's like, a mix of a

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LAN slash, like, scrim environment, because there's no crowd, but who knows, there's a lot of, there's a lot of

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theory there.

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Also, Kiritich and Mierua have been playing out of the, oh, yeah. Oh, my god.

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I mean, like, pretty much kept the highest KDA as an off-limiter, have the second highest KDA.

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Yeah, it's just crazy. I mean I was I was genuinely

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Surprised that that is kind of the the channel for that boom success. They're like playing so

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aggressive up tempo Dota, but like all of it is

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Miero and today what we're probably gonna see is a clash of two fantastic off-laners

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That sort of break the game

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Because both of our Miero have these incredible stats and yeah usually the highest value on their team

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Well, you know the funny thing is you mentioned these two offlaners the only off-laner I've ever seen Amar

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Respect in an interview is Miro. Yeah, like when he was asked

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I don't remember what tournament it was that maybe it was a dream league

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He was asked like who are the off-laners that you're that you're looking at whose replays are you looking at?

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You know, he said something like collapse like faith beyond at the top stuff really obvious answers

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And then he was like Miro more like

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Miro I'm surprised I'm not expecting anyone to be honest. Yeah

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Well, you know he picked the goats like you know, you have to pick the goats

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But then he said Miro and you know, then we looked at Miro's rank and it's like oh rank a holy shit

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Like this guy's up there with all the carries in the mid laners. It has always been so high rank. Yeah, he

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Beppum as a team has really powered him up. He's been

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On and off between like really really good and just good

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But he's prime right now. He really feels prime and also it's a patch

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I think where your offlaner being in like prime form matters a lot because there's not the

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Chikiro's, Cree and protectors, these like cancerous five positions that totally dumpster use some carry that 1v5s

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The five leaves the like all of this snowballing stuff that can happen from the off lane being bad

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Doesn't exist anymore offlaners. We're cores again. So it matters

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Yeah, you can have a lot of impact as you said there's no this five guy that just you know you pick your hero

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You can see the check here on the enemy and basically you you kind of like doesn't even matter what you just leave the lean

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Yeah, just pretty much like play one beat two

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So we're talking about a mark a mark obviously always good value in an interview gives us

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The best quotes one of the funniest personalities in all of Dota. So what she said this time Andrew?

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Yeah, well, we can take a look. I would like to, you know, this storyline basically for this event for Falcons has been they looked

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50-50 we're like, why do they look 50-50? Well, we got the answer in an interview

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Are you gonna bust out any secret pecs later on down the line? Is there any new hero you've been practicing?

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No, I'm playing only two heroes

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If they banned Bristol and Tide I'm gonna lose like I only one of these two heroes anyway.

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It would have been really embarrassing if I was wearing the same clothes.

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I would have sucked.

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Look at that, that's where your head went with that.

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How smelly do I'm like, you know, like.

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No listen, we bring multiple outfits.

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But no, Amar there obviously, like, are just so candid, you know, saying if you ban these

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heroes we're gonna lose and then a couple of teams have done that against me.

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I love his honesty, it reminds me of Yaternalenvi, back in the day I feel like he was the only

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guy who always gave his honest answers.

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Of course he was more secretive, Amar really doesn't care, he's saying you guys ban my

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host car, ban my BB Tide, he just doesn't care about anybody in the tournament and he's

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been shining.

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Like, he's top net worth every single game.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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On his team, he's just playing.

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He has, like, four games of Doom with Radiant's first item.

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Top net worth every single time.

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So much impact.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And to be honest, I was skeptical when he said that.

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You know, I think we all were.

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Where we were like, oh, he's such a troll.

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Like, he's just trolling, you know?

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But it was true.

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Liquid played against them.

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And they did indeed focus on the Bristle and the Tidehunter.

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Obviously in the second game, Tidehunter went through,

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Omar picked it, he stuck to his guns.

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They still ended up losing down one game

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because the Bristol and the Tide were banned in the first game.

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But it's just so funny to have this interview,

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Bristol and Tide, we even saw the T-Governor leaked DMs

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that Omar said banned the Bristol and Tide.

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He's saying this to everyone, and it's true,

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he was not memeing their records,

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the record against Liquid, they got two owed,

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and then something changed.

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Something changed in the middle of the night, you know, uh, Heidegger calls it the call of the conscience. That's what he says

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Those creeping 3 a.m. Thoughts

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Keep you up. That's who you are that that nugget that thing whatever that is that's talking to you

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That is your your brain trying to tell you who you are at a core and it's just trying to get itself out through your subconscious

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So Amar, sorry, I'm gonna say something. We

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I feel like he was sitting in his bed at night trying to sleep, and he was like contemplating

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what is going wrong, what is going wrong.

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And at some point he's like, it's not my fault, my teams are noobs.

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And he just decided, okay, I ignore my teammates, I don't TP for them, I'm just gonna farm every

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game.

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I'm gonna farm every game like I'm the carry.

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Teams are noobs.

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Well, wait, wait.

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I love that.

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It's working.

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like fully in on my dominoes. You're a stuck-in-good analyst, you're a stuck-in-good dominoist.

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The funny thing is, I do believe Amar said something similar in another interview clip that we'll play for you now.

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The vibes on the team are really good right now?

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I'm not sure we're back. I feel like I have my two of my players who are griefing, super hard, both games.

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games but I feel like I'm back if anything so like you know it's a bit

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egoistic but you know it's kind of true when you see these games I hope I don't

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jinx myself and go fucking grief next series but like no like yeah I'm not

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sure like maybe we're back like as a team as a team where we look like we're

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better so funny then there it is you know what can you say about that like he

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He didn't grief for the record.

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No, he did not grief.

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No, this, this was one of the best series I've seen from an off-laner period.

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Like it was insane.

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The amount of damage this guy was doing, not only in the game, but mental damage to the

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enemy teams.

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Number one network, number one kills, number one XBM, number one network, number one kills,

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number one damage.

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And in the game where he wasn't number one damage, he was number two by like 500 damage.

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Like in every game, every single point of the game, he is dominating and I think we,

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it's what, like you said, he legit just farms the lane, does the MR stuff, has good laning,

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and then he goes Radiance and he carries.

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He's always so high networked and it seems like he's discovered what is actually good

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on the off lane in this patch, like we're back to off lane carries, I believe that this

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is good.

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It's so unfair to his teammates actually, especially his two cores.

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Every time I look at Thalcans, you see him being top man or top kills,

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like he's just farming all of the map and he has the most kills.

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So, statistically speaking, he's the most impactful player.

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And then your Maldred or Skitter, you look at this guy,

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you see he's like two times better than you, he has double your kills, like...

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It's so unfair, like you're gonna look bad no matter what.

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But Ammar, he said yes, to Grifor is on his team.

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I'll you definitely talk about the car. You know what he said about their supports, dude

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I gotta say as a core player you never think about support your team

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Yeah, like your support is there to help you or he's feeding. Yeah, they're not they're not people dude

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They're not people as a core player. You understand that even if it's feeding. It's fine. You're the core you can carry the game, right?

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So

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See there's two griefers. It has to be he has to be talking about the course

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Yeah, because in his mind if he's not caring his other course should be caring and they're not caring so

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Well, I mean, Buda Ma definitely is.

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Just everybody at home, I just want you to know,

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we're going to be a little bit delayed by about, I don't know,

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10 minutes or so.

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There's a marathon or something, a bit of a rest, I believe.

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So we're getting people through traffic,

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but we're going to get into the game real soon.

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And the good news is, you get to listen to us

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yapp with a cup of coffee and get ready for the games.

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So here you go, Wee-Haw, just to pat everything out

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with a bit of yappology.

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Omar, as an off-laner, where would you rank him?

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As an off-laner or as a player as a whole?

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Well, do both.

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We've got time.

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As an off-laner, he's definitely one of the only ones

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who have changed how people think,

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players think about the off-lane.

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He is fearless.

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He actually plays a lot of carry in matchmaking.

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He plays a lot of mid.

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He supports it all the way, he doesn't play.

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And I think he does that

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so he can understand his role better

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and what his support should be doing for him.

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Because this is literally the best way.

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You need to be in the other person's shoes

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so you can understand what they need from you

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and what you need from them.

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Not a lot of offlaners do that.

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Most offlaners either go offlane or they run it down

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because they lost the role.

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I don't know how it goes in scrims.

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I feel like they definitely tested

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on Martin on other roles as well.

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As we've seen in the past,

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he did play Kerry sometimes, right?

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I think he even played mid sometimes, on Huskar as well, plays Huskar off-flame, like, who else is like that in the scene right now?

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I think he's a breath of fresh air. I love his honesty, every time he's getting interviewed, he's talking every time about, I don't know, some random shit.

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He's flaming his teammates, he's flaming the enemies, he doesn't care, he just loves the game, you can see, he wants to be the best, he maximizes everything, reminds me again of Ethelna Lenvy.

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Yeah, I think I think this point is super valid by the way like the idea of playing the other roles to learn

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What they don't like or what they do like?

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I think like the old generation of Dota players, you know

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Like the snakings of the world that are now very very good at Dota obviously in their own right

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but they had to go through this process of

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They played on a team. They were okay. You know, he's stuck in NA. He's just doing okay

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Switches to a different role learns about that role comes back like you've had this history of players

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switching to roles to just try it out and then going back to another role and then I feel like they

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Power up when they go back to whatever their main role was now understanding

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What the other heroes are doing? You know, it's like you're playing off lane and

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You don't know where your support is right, but then you start and you're like complaining

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Where's my support? Where's my support?

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Like, you don't know exactly when to back in the lane,

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when to play safe.

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And then you learn four.

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You're watching these fours.

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You see, okay, these guys are going to secure every rune.

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These guys are playing on the right side of the lane.

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If the support position five is really good at laning,

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if the camps are really important,

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they're going to be fighting over centuries.

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Like, you're going to understand the periods

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of which your four position is not going to be near you.

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And you can make that small change to your positioning

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where you are less likely to die.

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You have one less average death per game.

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And one less average death per game in Dota is like,

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the difference between like 8K and 10K MMR,

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like legitimately it's like 2K MMR increase.

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Like these things matter a lot,

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but I think for some people,

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it takes playing a lot of Dota for someone like Amar,

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he was just a young kid, cocky, played every role

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because he just can, you know?

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And for guys like this,

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it has done a world of making them better at the game.

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Yeah, I mean, for me, right, I did this podcast with,

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it was OG Lunar, we were talking about an off air.

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It was when the legendary OG guys

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were like transitioning out of the team

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and he said, we're gonna announce our new team tomorrow.

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And would you like to know who it is?

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And I went, of course, yeah, I'd love to know.

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And he said, right, and he listed off the names

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and he said, we've got this young prodigy.

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And I was like, okay, who?

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And he goes, he calls himself a motherfucker.

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And I was like, I don't know about this, bro.

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He was telling me he was going to be amazing.

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He could do all of these things, you know, blah, blah, blah.

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And I was like, there's no way this can be real.

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I mean, how often do you hear about a good kid who's really

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good in ranked pubs, et cetera, gets on a team,

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and they just crash out, or whatever it might be?

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So to be talking about him now, years later,

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is one of the number one off-laners in the world,

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if not the number one off-laner in the world.

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Just amazing stuff.

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And you gotta give credit to the OG organization

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for pulling this kid out of solo queue

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and putting them on the world stage, you know?

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Yeah, I mean, no tail instead,

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and those guys are really good at talent scouting.

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Like a lot of the OGs of Dota, like Puppy, Kuro,

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you know, it's like, these guys are,

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these guys are like, they're probably number one skill,

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aside from being amazing at the game

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and great captains, et cetera,

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It's identifying talent and then fostering it, growing it,

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like stoking the flames.

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That arguably makes you more of a long-term, successful Dota

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player or Dota organization than anything else,

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than just having one really skilled six-month period.

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Can't forget about N0te, as well.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So we can talk about instead of picking talent from solo Q and put them on the wall stage,

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we can talk about first picks that have evolved over the course of this meta.

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We've started to notice some things.

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Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, storylines here that we've been able to witness.

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You mentioned the doom from Amar and how he's looked insane playing this hero, 62% win rate.

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You know, it's reflected in the win rate.

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Dawnbreaker, this has been like Miro and Amar special.

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It's an offlaner nobody was talking about like three days ago.

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Some of these heroes, more obvious.

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We probably won't see Slardar getting through too much,

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but Kaz is probably the carry of the tournament from what we've seen.

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100% looks so good every time.

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Every time I see this hero in a game, the only way this hero loses is if the player plays bad on the hero.

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If he makes a lot of mistakes, he's buying the rogue items, like Wits didn't buy MKB against the Windranger.

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I think you need to play this hero as a carry right now.

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It is kind of a specialist hero, but I think like he's so good that at this point, just as 7.41 came in,

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when Nipo became just a classic hero, like anybody could play it was that good.

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I think Kez at this point is not a specialist hero anymore.

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I think it's just that good that you just have to dedicate at least 10, 15, 20 games as a carry.

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You're basically paid to play this game.

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Of like year after year, being paid to play this game and nothing else.

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So if you don't play this as a carry, you're definitely missing out.

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Yeah, I agree. I think it's insane. And there's really crazy good combos with it too.

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Like any other forms of minus armor, like if you can get a pango or a slaughter on the team,

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I do it's instantly you die take the one casque like it's okay. It doesn't

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Feel okay. If I legit am questioning are the minus number armors glitched

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Like is there some hidden bug that's happening right now because I saw kore use two refresher shards

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I saw that that's a bug. That's a really really game-breaking bug

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You know where I saw that first

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I saw that a week ago in a two and a half hour long herald game

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game that is use three Alts and I said this is this is genuinely game breaking and I can't believe pros aren't doing this. And then I see Kori like yesterday use this bug. You know so like these bugs do exist in Dota and they have profound impact

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millions of dollars of impact and to identify that or at least to like vibe and feel that something is off is very important.

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And then it turns out it just isn't.

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It just isn't.

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I don't actually think it's bugged, but the numbers are just over tuned.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Which in my eyes is like, okay, that's bugged here at least.

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Oh, talking about the refresher shot, again, almost two weeks ago, like yourself, I played

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this in Booker game and some guy gave me the shot and I had a refresher and it's like,

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yo, you can use it.

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Like, are you sure?

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And then in the teamfight, I did use both refresher and refresher shot.

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I think this is fair.

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I don't think this is a bug.

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I think actually it does happen quite often where when they bring out these passionals they kind of like

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Forget to put some things in there and they change refreshers so that it doesn't work on items, right?

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Uh-huh and that's when the refreshers are started working stacking with the refresher

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I feel like they just forgot to put it in well. I saw gork trying it in a lobby. He couldn't get its work like it's

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Not a hundred percent success. I I I'd still to this day like I saw it in a herald game

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I saw it in I saw K-Wari doing it. Sometimes these things are indistinguishable pro and heralds

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And I still don't know because in a practice lobby my editor was able to do it

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It worked in a practice lobby for him. I couldn't do it neither could gork like I

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Generally don't know what the conditions are for you refresh or refresh or shard

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I actually don't like it just sometimes works. I'm gonna solve financing science for the pop three globals

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Like this we've seen I think it's there. Yeah

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Now that it doesn't work on items. I agree with you that I think it's fair

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Yeah, but it's a glitch

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Dota it's still a bait again

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Right, let's look at the teams that are still left in the competition and this is super important because as you will see

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We've got some winners here

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So baby did really good in season five, but they didn't have courage to have pure and then season six and seven

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They obviously got fourth and third

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So every time they come here in the tournament they have a great placement. They do very well and again right now

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They're in the grand finals, so they basically guaranteed top two Falcons on the other hand

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They've been doing great in the earlier parts of the season, but lately they've been struggling here at PGO

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They've never they've never won a Valhalla, which really surprises me because that includes the period of time where they were the dominant thing

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You know since the second one. Yeah from the from their highest placement

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He said he was he's like he wants to play Pokemon or something like he wants to grab them all

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He was one of the each tournament series and PGL is on his mind. Obviously

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Aurora on the other hand, this is like the second time they've been here. Yeah, with this roster. Yeah, first time they didn't even have night form

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So true. Well, let's start by talking about the series that's coming up. We can segue nicely into that. Let's talk about Aurora

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I feel that

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that even though they are one of the form teams in Dota right now, they might be a little bit lacking.

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They might not have the source, Andrew.

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Aurora, I mean, you know I'm a big Aurora fan. You know, I've always thought that they had the

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source. I get where the criticism comes from because, you know, for me, the big story,

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one of the big stories, there's a lot of them with this team because they're a very cool malachemational

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players, but one of the big stories is Nightfall and how he went from being genuinely one of

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the most cowardly Dota players in the history of eSports, like one of the most cowardly players

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in eSports to the point we named, you know, the Nightfall after him.

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It's hysterical, the BKBTPs, and I wanted to look at some of his stats between season

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one and season eight to see how he's improved.

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So his average GPM, it's, you know, it's about the same.

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You could argue average lost hits at 10 minutes.

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He has less last hits on average at 10 minutes now than he did before.

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Average kills per game, six, season one, you know, for a carry, that's okay.

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He wasn't in top five.

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Now he's got the second most average kills per game, and I think like Makoto is number

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one, right?

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So it's like his mid, and it's mostly mids on this list.

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Average deaths, two deaths, season one, and now he averages about three deaths per game.

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Remember, these are averages, right?

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So a difference of like one.

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means in some games he's like dying way more and I thought that we have to check out the hilarious that

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The pings per minute

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Went from three to five. He almost doubled his pings per minute, which means he's communicating

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Way more

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Which makes sense if you're running through portals if you're playing heroes like windrunner and you're playing these like

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non farming afk carries, which now he's like a super active carry

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You need to communicate more. You need to ping like hey, I'm coming here. I'm gonna take this angle

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I'm gonna go for this guy. He almost doubled his pinks per minute, and he was already number two in pinks per minute

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Crazy if my care would have five things from it. I'll definitely meet in two minutes

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But credit to his teammates actually that take his input his pings probably he like communicates a lot

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Like he was named epileptic kid, right? Yeah, I was a good reason. Yeah

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Yeah, I don't give credit to his teammates that they actually like they understand the way he is

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They don't let it affect their focus and basically

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Put good use of this information. Yeah, he keeps bringing into the team and I play with him a lot of times in matchmaking as well

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Just never stops talking. He always guys like if you play with nightfall turn off your brain

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Yeah

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Silence and just listen to him. He will win the game

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This is pretty much my experience with him and I feel like as you said the

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Vikings really showed that he's definitely doing the same in his team so

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We've also got, well you picked this out, then some interesting stuff

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They've played in the last four games they've played together, Aurora has won all

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four of them but the amount of kills my goodness 160 kills on Aurora

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compared to 44 on Falcons. That's crazy. That is devastation of the highest degree. Holy shit.

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They've gotten bullied by the steaming in the recent series that they have together.

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I think it counts on thousands. I genuinely couldn't believe this. I thought you messed up.

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I did the math myself. I was looking at this this morning, but there's no way this is true,

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but it is true. Yeah, but basically they've been getting bullied by Aurora.

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Probably comes down to the fact that Aurora is a more aggressive early game-based team

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While Falcons as we all know they do very good in lanes. They never go high ground. They never think about

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putting an end to the game

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Before like 45 minutes and even then we saw last night as well

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They even when the game goes 50 minutes, they just don't care. They don't want to go high ground

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They just want to keep farming choke the enemy out wait for the enemy to make mistakes

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But they take the subway. Yeah, they had to take the subway. I just saw the traffic. Yeah, that's what I was talking about

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Like yeah, like the streets cordoned off or something for the marathon

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So they got a different route to work today, but it they seem to happy with it

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Changes as good as arrest Andrew. That's not what's pretty good. I was gonna ask the Romanian subway like the Bucharest subway

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Actually true, but I mean yes, I do have to say this though

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I feel you're not going to see a bullying today.

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Falcons to me, something's clicked.

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Started a tournament, I wasn't impressed.

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Started a playoff.

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They were all right.

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Started a playoff, I thought they were done.

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I thought they were out.

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I thought they wanted to get home, just snap.

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Right this one off, let's learn the patch,

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let's go and do Falcons things.

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I also agree with you.

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It feels like in some games, they don't want to win.

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They'd rather farm, get six slotted,

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Maybe go high ground in 70 minutes, maybe.

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But like yesterday, I saw the old Falcons

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kill an instinct kick in.

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Yeah, I don't exist, yes.

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I don't know if Aurora is the type of team

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you want to try to choke out.

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Yeah.

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I feel like this team is really good at finding angles.

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They are also really good at like Makoto

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on some pock, Queen of Pain, split pushing,

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Nightfall will always find his farm like he is a very aggressive carry even if you see him play Ursa

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He is making rotations at like level five. It's really crazy to watch

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But if you let him farm he can still go back to that old nightfall where he's like farming your jungle camps on your side of the map

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He's he's found a way to get himself into a farming pattern where

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He will get to his items and then Aurora will make a good move on you and they will have a good enough draft

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that they can beat you. So I think Falcons, like they've got to be fully aware of that going into this, you know,

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they need to have the killer instinct that we saw yesterday.

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Obviously, I would love to talk about the exact matchup I see these two teams are gonna like have. I feel

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Falcons, Amar is the guy to focus right now. I think if anybody watched their games to understand you shut Amar down,

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you basically shut down 50% of the team. It's just one guy, right?

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I think Nightfall is a great laner, he has good experience, he's the captain against to pick the heroes, so obviously he's probably going to look to shut down Ammar, maybe not give out his doom anymore, he's been very successful on it.

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I think that's good to know, I think you will see it being bad.

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At the same time Falcons, when they get to have good lanes and put their plan into motion so they can go into the late game, they play extremely well, while Aurora not so much.

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Aurora has been proven yesterday that when they go to late game, they kind of struggle a little bit

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So in terms of the matchup Falcons in my eyes have the late game

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And Aurora will basically try to chop Amar down and just take control of the game fast before Amar gets to farm

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It's seven slots and it's really interesting because you saw that two very different aero builds

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There's heroes Amar will not play even if the game is good for that hero

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You know we talked about Largo. He's just like it's a bullshit hero. I'm not gonna do it

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Obviously Mars is very good right now, but you if they ban out his doom his bristle is tied

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I'm ma will pick Mars because he's the best Mars player in the world. So

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It's super interesting. It's like can you really shut him down as the question and I think I think one of the games yesterday

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We saw slaughter like a completely ignored

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Yes, but they but he also said in the leaked DMs to tea governor

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Because they're very close friend. They'll always go all it. Yeah, of course

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He said four hundred percent. We will bounce lada. Mm-hmm. And I think against

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WS you have to similar personalities as well. I noticed with Tino. Yeah, yeah for sure for sure

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You they're both both offline big fans of the offline pool and being completely honest in interviews

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And I don't know where I'm going with this

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But I think yeah, the offlane pools are very different and it's almost like WS is playing like

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What maybe I'm

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Leaping too far into the future by doing this, but to me it's like they're playing

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Old offlaners NMR is playing the new offlaners. Right like to me. It looks like Amor has discovered

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Hey, you can be a carry in the offline you can farm in the offline you can

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Basically, you know tell the enemy team like you are under pressure to stop me

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Otherwise people go late game, and I will simply have more items than you know, whereas WS is like we saw at Slaughter

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Centaur he's playing these like aura bots these blink buyers

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He's playing the Mars on Mars and playing Mars. It's by what you said like one of the best Mars players on the planet

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He just thought Mars can't hit creeps. So why the hell would he pick it? Yeah? Yeah also talking about the carries

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It's an interesting matchup because getter and nightfall both have only five heroes played on this tournament

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with quite a lot of games. Obviously, they both don't like to go out of the comfort zone.

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I think Skeeter has like an incredible amount of tiny games.

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Seven matches, yeah, seven matches.

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Or like understood that, they banned the housecar for Amar obviously,

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and then they just instantly moved Skeeter's tiny.

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He's had eight games on the time.

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Seven wins, one loss.

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And there's a similarity as well in the hero pool from the carries.

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I mean, both carries have been playing the loan drew at this tournament.

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I mean, if you're a carry player, you sort of have to.

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That's kind of where he's at, but it might get ignored.

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That's the other interesting thing, like Falkens.

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It's kind of looked shit, to be honest.

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Yeah, Falkens kind of feel they know how to play around it.

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There's the Doomben.

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Yeah, they understand.

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It's kind of like a win the game.

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It took so long.

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Like, this is the first series we're seeing it respected like this.

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The nerfs were not enough to stop the Doom players.

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Like, it's still really broken in the right hands.

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I don't know if the Doom is broken or Ammar is broken.

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Yeah, I think it might be him.

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I mean, he did get Doom four times, right?

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But they did ban out all other officials.

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So he's kind of like forced to pick Doom.

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I don't think he wanted to play Doom necessarily.

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He just basically ran out of heroes.

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And yeah, only thing.

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It's possible. Yeah, I get what you're saying.

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For me, like, I think the heroes, I still think the hero's good.

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But I totally get what you're saying, because that is the situation in which they're getting everything else is out.

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So now Amar, I mean he has a pick of the litter.

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We're about to see a laundry, just...

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Okay, so a combination of team Falcons versus a laundry.

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This means we're about to see a 60 minute game.

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Yes.

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Buckle up.

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Buckle up.

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This is going to be a long one.

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Yeah.

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But I will say this, Falcons definitely feel comfortable in the laundry through.

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They think they think they know how to play around it, so I will say that.

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Well, again, they do love the late game.

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LoneDrew kind of like forces the team to play for the late game

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because the hero doesn't really do much.

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I'm not sure if last time I saw it was Satanic playing LoneDrew,

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his team basically demolished the entire game for the first like 18 minutes.

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And LoneDrew was just not a part of anything.

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And then when they needed him, he wasn't there.

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So I'm not sure if it's necessarily like a satanic problem.

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Right or if it's a laundry problem, but this hero needs agonies

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He needs agonies and then when he does get it. He needs another item usually a silverage

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That's what most players go for and then he becomes a threat. So obviously that means he needs a lot of time

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Falcons love that they love going mid to late game

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They're very confident in this decision-making at that point

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So this might be a big reason why they give longer with because I'm not is gonna be like, okay

01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.840
This guy's long route. I'm gonna farm I

01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:35.020
Did love what satanic was doing with the bear by the way where he was like running around chasing chasing the mid

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Just scouting like where are they at stealing runes and then farming with items on the hero like early game

01:00:41.180 --> 01:00:44.720
He was just he was using the bear as like a portable ward, which is hilarious

01:00:44.720 --> 01:00:49.420
I've never seen that before send it to the runes when the miller wants it and just feed him away

01:00:49.420 --> 01:00:55.160
It's it's kind of tilted. It's so annoying. It's kind of tilting. There's there's for sure tech on this hero that

01:00:55.160 --> 01:00:58.760
that is yet to be explored.

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And Falcons, respecting Mikoro with this.

01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:04.560
Yeah, I was just gonna say quap and puck.

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Oh, good.

01:01:05.260 --> 01:01:07.260
Batrider got away up until this point.

01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:08.360
I didn't even notice.

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That's crazy, because this hero, coming to the tournament,

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he was like the most big off-laner.

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Every single matchmaking game had a Batrider.

01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:18.560
Every single official had a Batrider.

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And he still has a crazy high-win rate.

01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.460
He does, and he's always first, like, first-faced,

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except this time.

01:01:25.160 --> 01:01:29.020
got a little bit past and they prefer the pango I guess on the but instead of the

01:01:29.020 --> 01:01:34.160
better in this case like I'm not sold that it's gonna be in a more about writer

01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:37.760
you know I'd say it's more likely to be like Malrin or crit I think when yeah

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when they've played it it's actually they haven't they have not played so

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Malin played in mid yesterday but I'm more on pango I don't see it fit his

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his style, his current style in this tournament, and the matchup along with it, I think it's

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like a million times better for Batrider than it is for Pango. Plus Marine is D Pango, right?

01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:07.000
He's the level 30 Pango. If there's anybody you want playing Pango on your team, it has

01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.000
to be him, right?

01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:13.560
Yeah, I think probably it'll be Crit picking up Batrider because we've got the hoodwink

01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:15.640
and Rubik out, right?

01:02:15.640 --> 01:02:20.480
It could also be a support Batrider. They're keeping the flex there. I mean, Kota's straight

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for the storm.

01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:30.480
I don't even see a Snaebat, to be honest, he's a forming position 5, he's played like every role in competitive though, I think he's played at previous patches.

01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:36.480
He's been feeding with it in my pubs, enough to not see a Snaebat right this time.

01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:46.480
Yes, I love Snae, he has very good win rate on Batrider, in general, all time, and he's just a good fit for the hero.

01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.000
a better fit I would say and definitely snaking is going to be the one playing the silencer right?

01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:57.100
Yeah, it's probably zero chance. We're gonna see like a quit silencer. Oh, yeah, this is this is snake for sure

01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.320
So on this pick we'll have a little more idea

01:03:01.240 --> 01:03:06.840
Tiny's out. What's the second thing Skeeter has been playing? I scared them playing tiny long

01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:12.440
It's just tiny long dreams pretty much and then to an outcrush. Yeah those two years. He played them once or twice

01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:14.440
I mean once I believe I

01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:21.340
I I mean monkey can't like yeah weaver is it but is there but I don't think it's

01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:26.580
that great against what Aurora has definitely the storm lion already it

01:03:26.580 --> 01:03:31.540
feels rough monkey king is not great against storm you can zip and really

01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:36.540
easily catch them on the trees it's but you'd be surprised monkeys quite quite

01:03:36.540 --> 01:03:40.740
nice against the storm really yes if you pair monkey with a stun the storm will

01:03:40.740 --> 01:03:47.740
pretty much explode. What about the global silence? Yeah, global silence. Very good tool to have the monkey.

01:03:47.740 --> 01:03:53.160
Okay. Because I do, like you said, I like it against Laundry. It's very good against the berry. You can now get

01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:58.740
Jingu stacks off of this thing. I'm not played monkey once against a Laundry. I don't think he did lose that game,

01:03:58.740 --> 01:04:04.740
but honestly, he had a big problem on the lane. The idea was very good, right? Monkey has this Jingu passive stacks

01:04:04.740 --> 01:04:09.180
against the bear. I'll help you get the denies on lane and snowball pretty much.

01:04:09.180 --> 01:04:14.300
He did play against an Oracle that they spelled in constantly. Well, no need to

01:04:14.300 --> 01:04:17.460
talk about it anymore. There's a Bristol bag. This is definitely a Mark hero, right?

01:04:17.460 --> 01:04:22.860
Sure, but I also think it could also be Skeeter. I mean, like, how much is the

01:04:22.860 --> 01:04:28.700
removal of the seeing red? How much does that hurt the hero overall? Not at all.

01:04:28.700 --> 01:04:33.140
I think the hero is better. I think the hero is better on this patch than it was

01:04:33.140 --> 01:04:37.340
previously agreed yeah to be honest previously it was like after a series of

01:04:37.340 --> 01:04:42.540
nerves yeah and now it's like it's in a good place okay the Largo storm

01:04:42.540 --> 01:04:46.980
combination yeah it reduced mana cost with the buff you're putting on storm

01:04:46.980 --> 01:04:52.860
extra damage I mean Largo still suffers from the issue being a bit slow but very

01:04:52.860 --> 01:04:59.980
good against silencer you can take off the arcane curse you can grieve and take

01:04:59.980 --> 01:05:04.540
off global silence from other people, go against Batrider, you can dispel his sticky

01:05:04.540 --> 01:05:08.940
nape palms, you can take off Pango Shield Crash, if Consecrated Wraps is going to be

01:05:08.940 --> 01:05:11.900
a thing on Bristleback, you can take that off too.

01:05:11.900 --> 01:05:17.980
Yeah, it's many good things to dispel, and Aurora, banning the Skidder Life Stealer,

01:05:17.980 --> 01:05:21.740
you're kind of scared of the, well at this point, like a stable Skidder, right?

01:05:21.740 --> 01:05:22.740
Yes.

01:05:22.740 --> 01:05:25.740
He is the life starter too, in my eyes.

01:05:25.740 --> 01:05:31.740
Still, Largo, does that mean they really want to go licking against Falcons?

01:05:31.740 --> 01:05:34.740
Are they that confident on Aurora?

01:05:34.740 --> 01:05:37.740
They should be, right? They've looked pretty good in the turn.

01:05:37.740 --> 01:05:41.740
I'm just psyched to see a Storm Spirit gang, honestly.

01:05:41.740 --> 01:05:44.740
Yeah, Storm Largo is a very fun combo for the Storm.

01:05:44.740 --> 01:05:46.740
Absolutely.

01:05:46.740 --> 01:05:50.740
If you can get some early Galvanized stacks, that shit is crazy.

01:05:50.740 --> 01:05:55.740
Oh, they actually banned the Skeeter chicken. Interesting.

01:05:55.740 --> 01:05:56.740
The chicken.

01:05:56.740 --> 01:05:58.740
The chicken beats the frog, I guess.

01:05:59.740 --> 01:06:01.740
It could be a support larko too.

01:06:02.740 --> 01:06:06.740
Put him into the Bat lane and then have the Lion 4, right?

01:06:06.740 --> 01:06:07.740
Yeah.

01:06:07.740 --> 01:06:09.740
The bear will never have problems pretty much.

01:06:09.740 --> 01:06:10.740
Yeah, for sure.

01:06:10.740 --> 01:06:11.740
And it also blocks.

01:06:11.740 --> 01:06:14.740
Like, if you think that this could be a skitter,

01:06:14.740 --> 01:06:18.740
Bristleback and the Monkey King could be in the Offlane,

01:06:18.740 --> 01:06:22.940
You're also blocking the monkey king by having this, because you can take off the jingoo.

01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:31.640
So they're assuming this lag was a core position on Falcons, because they banned out Phoenix and the Venom.

01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:34.840
That's crazy that Phoenix made it this far in the pool, actually.

01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:44.140
To be honest, there's quite a lot of broken heroes in the pool in the beginning.

01:06:44.140 --> 01:06:48.780
So you have a bad writer and laundry obviously the two like most contest one of the most contested heroes, right?

01:06:50.740 --> 01:06:52.740
Oh, who would have thought?

01:06:53.340 --> 01:06:55.340
Warlock

01:06:57.420 --> 01:07:00.300
Just I nearly made the joke I

01:07:00.860 --> 01:07:05.180
Nearly said kill pick wallet, but I couldn't believe it would actually happen

01:07:05.180 --> 01:07:10.220
No, this there are some things that never change. I mean this guy's a very limited hero pool, right?

01:07:10.220 --> 01:07:14.420
So he's gonna stick to what he knows, but he also plays those heroes very well

01:07:14.420 --> 01:07:19.820
It seems to not be a problem for him or his team. I mean he has been very good in the tournament

01:07:19.820 --> 01:07:21.420
But he's six and two

01:07:21.420 --> 01:07:27.300
I've looked into it last night just because of Kauri and basically the only game sort of course was like the first time

01:07:27.300 --> 01:07:33.380
The last game of the tournament. Mm-hmm that it's been picked in yeah, so overall like it's looking pretty solid

01:07:37.220 --> 01:07:39.380
So very likely Skeeter

01:07:40.220 --> 01:07:50.220
Oh wow. That's new. All right. Is that first pick? Yeah it is. This kid in Reed King has come out.

01:07:50.220 --> 01:07:59.220
Damn. Hey look at that. I'm laughing about it dude. Like what the fuck? The fucking Reed King. Are you serious?

01:07:59.220 --> 01:08:06.220
That's great. I'm very happy with this. I love it. You're showing up in the throne a minute right? Yep.

01:08:06.220 --> 01:08:17.720
Yeah, you can struggle against Lion, the mana burn until Wraith King gets level 3 on the ult, it costs quite a lot of mana, you can struggle.

01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:24.720
Wraith King in this patch has been very good, very good carry if you can get past laning stage.

01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:31.920
The biggest problem of this hero is that he just sucks at laning and he just sucks being a part of the game until he gets radiance.

01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:37.120
He can farm so fast with the skeletons and now he has this shark that just completely buffs his

01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:39.120
He gets like this curse, right?

01:08:39.120 --> 01:08:46.880
He has both facets that he had previously that felt really shit to choose between because the spectral blade was really good for carrying

01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:52.160
But bad for farming and the skeletons were good for farming but not good for carrying and now you get both

01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.040
And you get the the agonim shark cost money

01:08:55.280 --> 01:09:00.560
But you have the farming facet built in you get the money because you've the farming facet and then you buy the other facet for 14

01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:03.920
Does he still get the attack speed talent at 20?

01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:08.600
I don't know about that, but I haven't played the Raiken game in a long long time.

01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:14.120
This shot is crazy good and I fear for Mira because, and Kauri, because if he does get

01:09:14.120 --> 01:09:18.720
to play the game and get to a blink plus a damage item, unless he radians with the shot,

01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:21.960
I would definitely see these two supporters dying in one hit.

01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:22.960
Yes.

01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:24.440
And you just get there, it just pops you dead.

01:09:24.440 --> 01:09:25.440
You're right.

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I'm worried for Falcons, because this is the last pick, Rathking, and it feels like it's in a bad lane,

01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:38.400
because they have Largo Lion, right, against Silencer, who is going to suffer, because he can't

01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:41.760
basically use any spells against Largo, and so I think he's just useless.

01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:46.320
People are going glaives now on Silencer, like early level glaives, so I wonder...

01:09:46.320 --> 01:09:47.440
It's going to be forced to, I think.

01:09:47.440 --> 01:09:51.360
Yeah, I wonder, because I mean, I played a lot of Silencer in the Largo patch, and I was like,

01:09:51.360 --> 01:09:52.200
like, oh, what am I do?

01:09:52.200 --> 01:09:53.480
Like, I can't do this anymore.

01:09:53.480 --> 01:09:54.960
You just can't.

01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:55.960
You literally can't.

01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:57.280
It's so bad against Largo,

01:09:57.280 --> 01:09:59.640
but Glaives was, people weren't even skilling Glaives.

01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:01.240
It was like 4-0 or 4-build.

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But now because Glaives is stealing the end,

01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.160
like people are going for it.

01:10:04.160 --> 01:10:05.000
Yeah.

01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:05.840
It's good, it's good.

01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:07.240
The lane is gonna go like a 60 minute game, I think.

01:10:07.240 --> 01:10:08.080
I mean, no, but it's the thing.

01:10:08.080 --> 01:10:09.680
We already called it was gonna be a 60 minute game.

01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:10.520
Oh, we know, we know how long it's gonna be.

01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:13.840
I just like the fact that they found a hero archetype.

01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:15.160
That's fine with that.

01:10:15.160 --> 01:10:16.160
That's great.

01:10:16.160 --> 01:10:18.080
They're, I mean, great king and falcons.

01:10:18.080 --> 01:10:19.000
Is it a big, exciting game?

01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.360
Yeah, it's a match made in heaven.

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Anyway, we're gonna go over the surrectioned slacks

01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:25.320
on the sidelines.

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Hey everybody, that is right.

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We are here with Aoi 2000.

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Now Aoi, first question of course,

01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:33.200
was that a misclick on the Wraith King

01:10:33.200 --> 01:10:37.200
or was that by accident or was there some kind of idea?

01:10:37.200 --> 01:10:40.160
No, we had some decent success with the Seren Scrims.

01:10:40.160 --> 01:10:42.560
I think it's sort of good versus here's how they want to fight.

01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:44.720
Like they have to sort of go in with line of storms

01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:46.920
and at some point but so won't be different lines

01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:48.240
so Wraith King will be good at that.

01:10:48.240 --> 01:10:54.760
Fantastic and I'm sure that you do know the forbidden interaction between the eldritch demons of warlock and

01:10:55.320 --> 01:10:57.520
Wraith King skeletons what he respawns correct?

01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:04.160
What is that? That's if there's a soup going on and he respawns and skeletons spawn they instantly die creating

01:11:04.160 --> 01:11:10.240
Dice reincarnation. Yeah, and then they make this like nuke that explodes for like four or five thousand damage. That's bad

01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:14.320
Okay, well you shouldn't give away too much in this draft obviously

01:11:14.320 --> 01:11:17.560
We have all a bet boom team out there watching you right now listening to this interview

01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:22.200
So I wouldn't reveal anything. However, I will ask you it was a late night long day for the boys

01:11:22.440 --> 01:11:28.260
You come in first series this morning. How are we feeling? Did my boys seem like they're ready to fight. Did they get good sleep?

01:11:29.040 --> 01:11:34.760
No, I think it was fine. Like we were on time today and our team wasn't so even though we had a late night. Oh, oh

01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:41.040
Call some shit wake up boys. Is that what I'm hearing right here any words to their managers? No

01:11:41.040 --> 01:11:44.040
you know. Wake up, boys.

01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:46.040
All right, fantastic. Last one

01:11:46.040 --> 01:11:48.040
here. Were you scared at all

01:11:48.040 --> 01:11:50.040
about this loan drew? You let

01:11:50.040 --> 01:11:51.040
them get it. You did not van

01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:53.040
it. You knew it would be coming

01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:54.040
in first and you have seen the

01:11:54.040 --> 01:11:56.040
answers to it. Are those answers

01:11:56.040 --> 01:11:57.040
apparent in this game? But don't

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tell that boom team they're

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watching. It's a hero we want

01:12:00.040 --> 01:12:01.040
to try to be, I think because

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like if you're aiming to win

01:12:03.040 --> 01:12:04.040
like especially versus. As

01:12:04.040 --> 01:12:05.040
like if we make it to the

01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:06.040
finals, like we'll have too

01:12:06.040 --> 01:12:07.040
many heroes we can't play

01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:08.040
against, so we need to try

01:12:08.040 --> 01:12:09.040
against some heroes. All

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right, well, an experimental

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Congratulations for making it this far.

01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:13.640
Thank you so much for all that you've done.

01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.280
And I'm sure you're going to do just great in the first one.

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Thank you very much, Slacks.

01:12:21.240 --> 01:12:25.080
Team Falcons and Aurora Gaming have faced off 18 times

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in the past.

01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.920
The record is 9 and 9.

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This is a tiebreaker game, Lizard.

01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:31.520
And if you're going to the Grand Finals,

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you have loan good on the one side,

01:12:33.440 --> 01:12:34.800
Wraith King on the other.

01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.280
Talk to me about what you feel about these drafts.

01:12:37.280 --> 01:12:39.360
We have a hero that has literally contested

01:12:39.360 --> 01:12:43.840
every single game, and we have a hero that is literally never contested.

01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:44.960
That's the Raid King.

01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:49.760
And I think the story of this game will be about the Raid King no matter what.

01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:50.760
One way or another.

01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:51.760
Let's see if we can make it.

01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:56.360
It's definitely Skitter's full comfort zone, like he has played a lot of Raid King in the

01:12:56.360 --> 01:12:57.440
past.

01:12:57.440 --> 01:13:04.920
This hero right now, like in the last patch, 741 I believe, he got buffed quite a lot.

01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:06.200
Everyone started spamming Raid King.

01:13:06.200 --> 01:13:11.240
He was all the rage, and after two days they nerfed him, right?

01:13:11.240 --> 01:13:17.480
So he became kind of, but I wonder if it's like the Doom scenario, where the hero got

01:13:17.480 --> 01:13:21.780
overbuffed, everyone started playing him, then he got nerfed a little bit, and everyone

01:13:21.780 --> 01:13:25.200
just because of those nerfs stopped playing him, but he's still good, like he's still

01:13:25.200 --> 01:13:26.700
very playable.

01:13:26.700 --> 01:13:30.880
I wonder what the item build as well will be, I know we mentioned the ratings, I feel

01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:35.880
I feel like the items of the meta are the harpoon and the silver edge.

01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:40.880
Two options that are also pretty viable on the Raid King if they want to play the game fast.

01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:46.880
We usually have a lot of decilators both on this Raid King hero, and that's been an item that's been popular for a lot of carries this patch too.

01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.880
Yeah, like the mage slayer, Dezo, right? Maybe...

01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:56.880
It's also an option. There's a couple of builds, of course. There was the good old armlet into Dezo AC kind of a build as well.

01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:01.560
The most common one and the easiest one almost every game to go for definitely is the Radiance.

01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:06.220
I feel like that's the... if you want to play the game with no brainer mode,

01:14:06.220 --> 01:14:08.720
you're never going to be wrong with the Radiance Raid King.

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This is Skeeter's 95th game historically on the Raid King.

01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:17.920
I highly doubt that anybody who's played more games on this hero than him has bought him.

01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:19.120
I'll go on to Mira.

01:14:19.120 --> 01:14:21.240
WS will be there with the catchy lick.

01:14:21.240 --> 01:14:23.920
There was a lot of damage that came from the plug, and Mira could have died there.

01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:25.920
Now, Sneaking is kicking ass down bottom.

01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:30.200
Like this silencer, I know he's been not so great versus Largo in the past,

01:14:30.200 --> 01:14:33.720
but right now, when you're just spamming glaives of wisdom, it's pretty good.

01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:37.640
And the moment the catch-alick is wasted, you can use the arcane curse after.

01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:40.560
So you're basically playing around Largo's cooldowns.

01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:42.640
Keep in mind that he also wants to use

01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.280
the catch-alick every now and then to perhaps secure the range creep.

01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:49.080
So the moment you see the opportunity, you just use the curse after.

01:14:50.480 --> 01:14:51.480
Taking a look towards the middle.

01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:53.840
We have Malrin back on the pangolier,

01:14:53.840 --> 01:15:00.000
up against the Makoto Storm. Makoto Storm is always a cheat to watch. We'll probably be dealing with the

01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.760
Mateslayer here from now on. Actually, wait, that's the question. Is it Mateslayer or Diffusal

01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.440
better against Storm? Why not both? Why not both? Why not both? Both items are pretty damn good.

01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:13.840
I'd like to actually see one and the other, so we'll see.

01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:19.760
I'm taking quite a lot of harass here. Blood Grenade drop. There's also fatal bonds on the

01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:21.760
the creep wave, he actually might die.

01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:22.760
Come on, take out the creeps.

01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:25.760
Gonna take out Kylery, we'll be the one to secure the kill.

01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:27.760
Shout out Fatal Ponds, very good spell.

01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.760
He just knows this hero so damn well.

01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:34.760
Warlock is at his full comfort zone and the Fatal Ponds,

01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:40.760
9 out of 10 times I feel like they lead into a first blood for him in the lane.

01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:44.760
Of course his lane partner is Nightfall, it's gonna be a long game fam.

01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:50.300
Game one we're gonna be here for a while got a lone druid involved and it's night for a lone druid at that

01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.900
There was a cool play by the way that we didn't see on top. He was forced to TP already on the lone druid

01:15:56.040 --> 01:16:01.960
Our main Skeeter, but also being some danger here Mira. I'm able to get the final right lick instead of snaking

01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:04.360
So when he packed the lion, drops a blood grenade on top of him

01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:11.480
One more slave would kill but he gets baited forward. There's gonna be the earth spike Mira gets hit by this frost pump from WS

01:16:11.480 --> 01:16:17.080
This catchy lick on the snaking and the silencer get punished, the aggression does not pay off for snaking.

01:16:17.080 --> 01:16:19.080
They were basically baiting on both sides.

01:16:19.080 --> 01:16:24.680
It's really good for a silencer when you have someone up front, like a scarier's raid king to defend you

01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:31.480
while you're just racking up those glaives of wisdom, getting the stacks up, but yeah, you can't go up front.

01:16:31.480 --> 01:16:37.880
The moment you go up front, you have the fairy fire and stick, but of course, it's not good enough.

01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:45.880
So, something about this lone druid, we've seen obviously that all the lone druid games take forever, and he's just off-map, you know, doing his thing, shoving out waves.

01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:50.880
Can Falcons pressure the game fast enough to sort of end before the lone druid gets to that point?

01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.880
Speaking of lone druid, there is a silencer on top lane.

01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:58.880
Okay, he's trying to do the rap here. They were trying to chase down Crit, but they will not know that the silencer is here.

01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:06.880
Fortunately for Aurora, the real hero as well as Kaori have gotten away. Kaori and Bind still die here, but has a pair of boots, so should be fine.

01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:09.880
Yeah, a bit unfortunate timing, because Bat's got zoned out, right?

01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:12.880
And Silencer actually has to be careful here as well.

01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.880
He has a stick, fatal bombs, there is no one.

01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:17.880
Is he still?

01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.880
One more right click is all you need, Kaori's gonna go too far, gets baited forward,

01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:25.880
Kritt's gonna see him, he will be able to pop that healing lotus.

01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:29.880
Kritt has a shadow word on top of him, will try to deny himself to the ancients,

01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:30.880
but ticks out in the end.

01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.880
Kaori Warlock, man, this guy is the future.

01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:40.040
It's not only Kaori Warlock, while this was happening skidder died down bottom, so they lost their carry as well.

01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:45.880
So far the laning stage is actually going really damn well for Aurora, four kills to their name.

01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:46.840
Maybe a fifth?

01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:48.040
Oh no, snaking.

01:17:48.040 --> 01:17:49.800
Dude, Kaori is making this hero.

01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:55.160
Like, he's making Warlock look like a clockwork playmaking position for him, he's gonna TP out of course, why not?

01:17:56.280 --> 01:17:57.560
This is illegal.

01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:02.760
This is a legal amount of work that Kaori has had with the Warlock this early on.

01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:08.880
Bro, he's level 4 on the Warlock already, down bottom they're going back onto Skeeter, he TP'd back in the lane.

01:18:09.380 --> 01:18:11.880
But they know that Snake King will be able to come and support him.

01:18:13.280 --> 01:18:23.180
And to answer your question, by the way, to not ignore it, wasn't dodging it, I think that Aurora have a very slow lineup.

01:18:23.480 --> 01:18:28.280
Even though so far with the 5-0 lead, maybe that will not matter all too much.

01:18:28.480 --> 01:18:33.380
But when you look at their heroes, like these are all extremely passive cores.

01:18:33.380 --> 01:18:36.080
Like, even the Storm Spirit needs a little bit of time.

01:18:36.080 --> 01:18:38.980
It's not your Queen of Pain, it's not your Puck, it's a Storm Spirit.

01:18:38.980 --> 01:18:42.280
Like, he can make rotations, but look at the... look at the...

01:18:42.280 --> 01:18:44.180
uh, Safin and the Offlane.

01:18:44.180 --> 01:18:45.680
Laundry and Largo.

01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:49.080
Like, this combo is just insanely greedy,

01:18:49.080 --> 01:18:53.880
that it makes me wonder if they will maybe switch up the build on one or the other.

01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:58.680
Like, I have seen a resurgence actually of old-school Laundry builds a little bit in pubs.

01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:03.280
Not only Agonyceptors, people are going for a bit more active of a build every now and then,

01:19:03.280 --> 01:19:10.720
And on Largo maybe you need to go for some sort of a grieves utility build and then down the line get an Agni Inceptor because

01:19:11.360 --> 01:19:15.980
You will just be farming two Agni Inceptors on your two cores if you go for the standard builds

01:19:17.040 --> 01:19:21.480
Mero also has a lot of responsibility and Mero is actually gonna get the stuns out onto Skeeter down bottom

01:19:21.480 --> 01:19:24.720
Other kill. They get another kill out onto the Swathe King

01:19:26.800 --> 01:19:30.200
Very good thing that Mero is getting these kills because they're gonna need that early blink dagger

01:19:30.200 --> 01:19:32.200
Somebody needs to play with the Stormsport.

01:19:32.200 --> 01:19:35.200
In danger from the Stormsport, Lakoto.

01:19:35.200 --> 01:19:38.200
Chasing down Snake King in the mid lane.

01:19:38.200 --> 01:19:41.200
First zip of the game will lead to a kill on the silencer.

01:19:41.200 --> 01:19:45.200
7-0 and the first galvanized stack for the Storm.

01:19:45.200 --> 01:19:50.200
We need one kill from Falcons and we'll have the first meme number.

01:19:50.200 --> 01:19:55.200
But yeah, so far, exceptional laning stage by Aurora.

01:19:55.200 --> 01:20:00.320
Aurora. I know why he said these guys were here on time, maybe they shouldn't have been.

01:20:00.320 --> 01:20:04.080
15 minutes of sleep, you know, the sweet 15 minutes, they help out.

01:20:04.080 --> 01:20:07.280
That little bit of a power nap at the bottom. First rotation from Malrin.

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Let's fight for Miro Wilmes, and there's your meme number.

01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:11.120
Brice.

01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:18.000
One to seven right now. I mean, Miro will be happy to tank that current, right? If Malrin is making

01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:22.320
his first move and killing him instead of killing the Logo, probably a decent trade for them.

01:20:22.320 --> 01:20:34.320
It's a very good kill for Pango as well, just to show up on the map, they needed to get something done and he will be going into a defusal blade by the way, no mage slayer for now from him.

01:20:34.320 --> 01:20:37.680
I don't try to steal some of these stacks now. They don't come over the contestors, but

01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:42.360
Nightfall and Kaori are also making a rotation. There's Kaori dropping the Golem down. Not

01:20:42.360 --> 01:20:47.480
able to find a very good fatal bond, however, but they chase him off the Amar, Mira, Respawn,

01:20:47.480 --> 01:20:52.640
CP to the tier one tower, and they find Amar, and they still get the majority of these stacks

01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:56.680
anyway. Can they do ints with the Golem? Like the question is, do we go for tier one or

01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:01.240
the ints? It seems like they will go for the tier one. It's Kaori always goes for the tier

01:21:01.240 --> 01:21:17.240
Yeah, absolutely. There's snowballing, like it doesn't matter how greedy your line up is if you can do this in the lanes. Falcons, they kind of drop the ball on all three lanes, they're 4k behind 10 minutes in. This is a bit illegal.

01:21:17.240 --> 01:21:22.240
Yeah, you know, we were expecting a much more passive passage of play from Aurora, but

01:21:22.240 --> 01:21:24.240
they're already about to get the tier 1 top.

01:21:24.240 --> 01:21:28.240
Kairi moved his golem towards middle, scouting out Crit.

01:21:28.240 --> 01:21:34.240
WS is going to be found by Maureen, but Maureen does not have enough mana, doesn't even have the roll skilled up.

01:21:34.240 --> 01:21:37.240
Yeah, he's 4400 by the way, on the pango.

01:21:37.240 --> 01:21:39.240
It's kind of a cool build.

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It became popular after the last patch.

01:21:41.240 --> 01:21:45.240
People just realized how much damage you dish out with just the two spells.

01:21:45.240 --> 01:21:52.680
the two spells you don't even need the lucky shot the level 4 swashbuckle is kind of insane right now

01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:59.400
Mira gonna park the haste rune on this meh pangalya and the tpr on the lion will you get out no

01:21:59.400 --> 01:22:05.400
like you said way too much damage coming from melryne an attempt was made didn't really work

01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:11.000
they already have the first tier one tower and the 5k elite though even with the mira's uh

01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:16.240
heavily in demise looks like Makoto is actually going to be the one that's

01:22:16.240 --> 01:22:19.400
building more active going back we saw some seeing this bill like last patch

01:22:19.400 --> 01:22:24.800
right with the grief rush okay so grieves on him but not on Largo it's

01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:28.960
cool I mean I like it grieves on Storm Spirit are really good whenever you're

01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:32.360
playing into a certain silence on the other side like we've seen a lot of

01:22:32.360 --> 01:22:37.720
grieves on Storm versus Puck as well so it's a pretty good build

01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:43.380
Speaking of builds, a man who can almost never make up his mind of what he wants is going

01:22:43.380 --> 01:22:48.960
to go back to the classic, Consecrated Drafts on his Pristle, Hakoto, and his Zip-on-to-Snay,

01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:54.440
not able to catch up to him though.

01:22:54.440 --> 01:22:59.480
There's a pretty huge difference in this game from most Loan Drid games that we have watched

01:22:59.480 --> 01:23:05.480
though, and that's Loan Drids usually, if you want to have a good game against him, you

01:23:05.480 --> 01:23:13.480
You need to kill him once or twice in the lane, you need to take down his tier one tower and force him into the jungle as soon as you possibly can.

01:23:13.480 --> 01:23:23.480
But man, he's right full, he's sitting on the highest amount of CS, highest network in the game, he took your tower, he's the one pressuring.

01:23:23.480 --> 01:23:29.480
There's lightful things, he's actually gonna show off middle as well, to participate in this bush, as Maureen.

01:23:29.480 --> 01:23:32.480
He was getting gone on, but they'll instead go back for snaking.

01:23:32.480 --> 01:23:35.480
They'll secure the amplified damage room for Makoto as well.

01:23:35.480 --> 01:23:38.480
Kaori has the rock, so... is he gonna use it? Doesn't even need it.

01:23:38.480 --> 01:23:41.480
But nightfall's bear here, they have more than enough pushing power.

01:23:41.480 --> 01:23:48.480
You get a little bit of demolish, I guess, still built in 30% with innate ability on the bear.

01:23:48.480 --> 01:23:52.640
It falls very quickly, you can use the golden axe for a box, tier 1 tower.

01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:12.560
This raining stage, yeah, sometimes nothing works and that's the way it is right now for falcons.

01:24:13.360 --> 01:24:18.160
There's another thing by the way, whenever you're playing great king, like this is a very fun core

01:24:18.160 --> 01:24:24.360
When you can always make sure that the Bone Guard just clears the wave, maybe even pushes the tower while you're farming the jungle.

01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:26.760
And there's no one that can counter play.

01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.160
But Largo just uses one spell and kills all of them.

01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:31.160
They are going onto that Largo.

01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:34.360
Local Silence committed as well. Rolling Thunder is here from Mal-Reen.

01:24:35.160 --> 01:24:38.160
So they do get the Largo kill. Very expensive commitment though.

01:24:38.160 --> 01:24:40.560
Two ultimates were utilized by Falcons.

01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:44.560
So when they come back with the Largo, I don't know, they'll have Greaves available.

01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:45.560
Makoto just finished it.

01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:47.760
Won't they just re-engage on bottom and force a fight?

01:24:48.160 --> 01:24:53.160
They can. Warlock is already there. They can definitely threaten the tier one tower down bottom.

01:24:54.160 --> 01:25:01.160
That's probably the best thing to do right now on the map. No other outer objectives. Left available. Laundroid is free farming.

01:25:01.160 --> 01:25:09.160
Almost has a full Mjolnir by the way. 14 minutes in. This is... He's living his good life. He's flourishing.

01:25:09.160 --> 01:25:11.160
A bear in Romania.

01:25:11.160 --> 01:25:14.160
Flourishing and unbothered. The Instagram is...

01:25:14.160 --> 01:25:16.160
In his element.

01:25:16.160 --> 01:25:21.560
He might not be in his element now. Thankfully he gets away just as Mera was about to go

01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:22.560
into the Earthbike.

01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:25.080
The 14 minute shrine is what they're aiming for.

01:25:25.080 --> 01:25:31.040
I'm going to get both of them. I could also get gone on because WS all of a sudden shown

01:25:31.040 --> 01:25:35.240
up in the top lane. Earthbikes out. We hit him with the finger of death, knight forward

01:25:35.240 --> 01:25:38.080
the right clicks. WS gets credit for the kill.

01:25:38.080 --> 01:25:43.840
I know this looked silly, but this is the way you want to play the missile back.

01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:49.840
Hold that thought. Let's back again. Aronto Malrin doesn't have the roll. Forced to swashbuckle away.

01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:51.840
That's shield as well by the way.

01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:55.840
Nightfall looking for an entangle able to get one, but looking for the easier target and snaking first.

01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:57.840
Makoto zips onto the silencer.

01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:05.840
Snae is gone. Malrin did his best, but not really enough to stop him from just aggressing onto that silencer.

01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:12.840
So these mini plays technically are correct from Amar, but they aren't working out because they're too far behind.

01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:14.240
They're too far behind.

01:26:14.240 --> 01:26:17.040
Like this is their bread and butter, like the way they're playing.

01:26:17.040 --> 01:26:19.640
You always want to, like if someone is pressuring you too hard,

01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:22.040
you just position the Bristleback way up front.

01:26:22.040 --> 01:26:24.440
He looks like he's super out of position,

01:26:24.440 --> 01:26:27.340
but suddenly everything switches because of the damage

01:26:27.340 --> 01:26:29.740
and the sustain that he usually has.

01:26:29.740 --> 01:26:32.540
But no consecrated wraps yet on him.

01:26:32.540 --> 01:26:36.740
His other members of the team weren't really nearby, close enough.

01:26:36.740 --> 01:26:38.840
They were close, but not close enough.

01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.940
Why? Because the map is just completely dead for them.

01:26:41.940 --> 01:26:45.940
Every tower, more or less, the important ones at least are gone already.

01:26:46.940 --> 01:26:52.440
6k gold lead already in Rainbow Aurora, and it might become more as they're looking towards Malrin here.

01:26:52.440 --> 01:26:55.940
They don't have the burst damage, finger of death is not available for 30 seconds.

01:26:56.440 --> 01:26:59.940
I'm very disappointed though. Kari hasn't dropped the rock, what the hell bro?

01:27:00.440 --> 01:27:01.940
He's saving his floor bottom.

01:27:01.940 --> 01:27:05.940
Don't cool down for too long. WS, they're coming in towards him, Malrin.

01:27:05.940 --> 01:27:12.100
the rolling thunder. Frog Stomp is very useful to keep Logo alive so far. The strumming of the song is there

01:27:12.100 --> 01:27:18.500
and this has taken too long. They're gonna get counterplayed here. Malrin as soon as his roll is over he is in trouble.

01:27:18.500 --> 01:27:23.540
That's get away with the swashbuckle. Mikoto feeling very feeder, zip forward. They even bring in Nightfall.

01:27:23.540 --> 01:27:29.540
Two heroes caught inside the bottom side of the map. They drop the rock. They get the entangling close on Skeeter.

01:27:29.540 --> 01:27:34.340
Both heroes are gonna fall. Tiawantau to drop as well. It's a wonderful collapse by

01:27:34.340 --> 01:27:39.940
every single member of Aurora onto the Tear-Lon Tower, there was a global available by the way,

01:27:39.940 --> 01:27:45.540
so maybe you could make an argument that the defensive global could have saved both of them,

01:27:45.540 --> 01:27:50.980
just defensive global into TP out, but of course you cannot use it versus Storm because of Greaves,

01:27:50.980 --> 01:27:54.020
one of them probably would have died, and now Sneaking Go as well.

01:27:55.780 --> 01:28:02.660
Dude, what's happening? I don't know, we had some really long games, the two of us

01:28:02.660 --> 01:28:06.100
We've been casting 17 minutes every single series it feels like.

01:28:06.100 --> 01:28:09.780
It's not even over, bottom they find crit as well, Earthbite finger.

01:28:09.780 --> 01:28:12.740
He has Blink Dagger 16 minutes in on Mira.

01:28:12.740 --> 01:28:16.380
We might have a very quick one if the game continues this way.

01:28:18.220 --> 01:28:22.580
You know, I guarantee it, right, when Aoi was geocrafting how to deal with this Loan Drift

01:28:22.580 --> 01:28:24.860
and he's like, okay guys, we're gonna pick these and these heroes.

01:28:24.860 --> 01:28:30.300
He's not expecting the Loan Drift himself with the bear to be at your Tier 2 Tower bottom in 17 minutes.

01:28:30.300 --> 01:28:31.220
Probably not.

01:28:31.220 --> 01:28:39.420
That's usually... Remember, the first thing I mentioned for Aurora is that this is a very late game-oriented draft,

01:28:39.420 --> 01:28:47.620
but a good way to make me look down on myself because they're playing it extremely fast and everything is working in their favor.

01:28:47.620 --> 01:28:57.420
Like, even this good combo that we have seen yesterday, like yesterday, Meta has shifted completely towards the combination of the Global Silence plus Lasso,

01:28:57.420 --> 01:29:00.260
And how do teams find a way of dealing with that?

01:29:00.260 --> 01:29:02.260
Because it is a nasty combo.

01:29:02.260 --> 01:29:04.940
But I haven't seen a single Lesser in the game.

01:29:04.940 --> 01:29:06.300
They just haven't used it.

01:29:06.300 --> 01:29:08.220
They're still waiting for a blink on Bat.

01:29:09.540 --> 01:29:11.660
Malrin and Snaking are smoked up.

01:29:11.660 --> 01:29:13.700
China hunt down Nightfall.

01:29:13.700 --> 01:29:16.500
And their smoke will break underneath an observable ward.

01:29:16.500 --> 01:29:18.100
They will pop the Global Silence for this,

01:29:18.100 --> 01:29:20.540
but they don't manage to get the spells out in time.

01:29:20.540 --> 01:29:22.700
Now they need to run, mirror, blink past the fight,

01:29:22.700 --> 01:29:23.980
able to isolate Snaking.

01:29:23.980 --> 01:29:26.540
There's no more Globals or there's no more Silencer.

01:29:26.540 --> 01:29:32.940
Malrin at least able to TP out, but that's a smoke, a global, you use Rowe and you're the one that dies?

01:29:34.460 --> 01:29:41.300
Space. Space, space. At least you force them to their side of the map, which of course they will not stay there for way too long.

01:29:41.700 --> 01:29:49.100
They have Largoba to strum his songs, get on the enemy side a bit faster. Radiance is up from Raid King.

01:29:49.100 --> 01:29:55.100
That's yeah, I feel like this hero needs, he needs more.

01:29:55.100 --> 01:29:59.260
And I've been hyping up Raitking just because he's not really meta.

01:29:59.260 --> 01:30:03.740
We haven't seen too much Raitking or any Raitking at this tournament at least.

01:30:03.740 --> 01:30:09.940
But there's a reason, like Raitking most of the time doesn't feel like End All Be All

01:30:09.940 --> 01:30:10.940
Carry.

01:30:10.940 --> 01:30:13.540
Like he feels like he's on a timer, most games.

01:30:13.540 --> 01:30:17.220
I also feel like Raitking doesn't really feel good to play until you get the Blink

01:30:17.220 --> 01:30:22.100
He's just so slow to be able to enter the fights and he still needs the armlet first and then the blink dagger

01:30:22.100 --> 01:30:25.220
Yeah, that's why I was thinking maybe he will switch things up a little bit but

01:30:26.160 --> 01:30:32.400
With the new meta build on tiny ease on monkey kings like a lot of heroes are going for

01:30:32.700 --> 01:30:35.180
Dezo for harpoon for silver edge

01:30:35.220 --> 01:30:40.060
Maybe there is something to it, but that's right king. You want to crit hard ratings allows you that

01:30:40.060 --> 01:30:44.720
Autumn lane is being taken right now, Tietzu tower gone at 19 minutes.

01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:47.740
They will put a Maar on the front lines.

01:30:47.740 --> 01:30:51.460
Unfortunately it's not enough to do anything and oh my goodness, Mira!

01:30:51.460 --> 01:30:54.900
Just found Vision onto quick, they burst through the backlight and Malrin will try to go into

01:30:54.900 --> 01:30:59.140
the fight but Mikoto just jumping the backlines, looking towards snaking, trying to bring down

01:30:59.140 --> 01:31:01.100
the silencer and he will go down.

01:31:01.100 --> 01:31:03.700
Kearic offering was dropped onto Skeeter and a Maar.

01:31:03.700 --> 01:31:07.220
He still managed to chase down Nightfall however, lots of damage coming out of this Bristleback.

01:31:07.220 --> 01:31:11.040
Skeeter though will die for this that's life number one taking away Amar

01:31:11.040 --> 01:31:16.900
Hexed up is completely out of mana and he still participate in this fight the rest of Aurora though focusing on to Skeeter

01:31:16.900 --> 01:31:19.700
They want to get the Rage King and they will succeed in this endeavor

01:31:20.180 --> 01:31:24.900
Malrin and Amar need to run as we spawned however he does have the lasso available

01:31:24.900 --> 01:31:25.900
They have no hope for us well

01:31:25.900 --> 01:31:31.940
They can find the target they go on to Mira with Malrin and Crypt they get the lasso out on to WS to bring him back towards Amar

01:31:32.180 --> 01:31:36.100
Amar able to find the double kill global silence not even necessary

01:31:36.100 --> 01:31:41.100
Orora, maybe overextending a bit too far that time around.

01:31:41.100 --> 01:31:49.100
And right here in this fight, we have actually witnessed why exactly most players don't move the Laundroid into the fight.

01:31:49.100 --> 01:31:57.100
He just got eliminated so quickly and so easily. Like, they're super far ahead, but the Laundroid, he showed up a little bit too early.

01:31:57.100 --> 01:32:03.100
I mean, a little bit too early. He showed up, which wasn't punished up to this point, but now it has been.

01:32:03.100 --> 01:32:10.600
Luckily, of course, for Nightfall and unfortunately for Falcons, it feels like it might have been a bit late because Aghanim's is complete.

01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:12.600
He has it. It's flying out to the very end.

01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:18.600
Umar, we got to see the power of this Bristleback. He just could not deal with him.

01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.600
They were forced to apply so much focus onto the supports.

01:32:22.100 --> 01:32:30.100
There's one thing that they did do in that fight, which was very strong against Bristle still, and that's Mira.

01:32:30.100 --> 01:32:36.100
He literally just stood his ground and took all of his mana away with the mana tree.

01:32:38.100 --> 01:32:42.100
Aurora, they do not have the Aghanims on the Lungeward, like he said.

01:32:42.100 --> 01:32:45.100
They also have the Aghanims almost complete for the Largo.

01:32:46.100 --> 01:32:49.100
These are items that we were expecting, like what, minute 25?

01:32:49.100 --> 01:32:51.100
They have them both already available?

01:32:51.100 --> 01:32:56.100
Yeah, considering that they have everything, right? Like the Kaia and the Aghanims on Largo.

01:32:56.100 --> 01:33:09.100
Like in the last patch, when you were rushing, Aghanus and Largo, the normal timing was around minute 18, 18-ish, something like that, without Facebooks, by the way, and with the Sol Ring.

01:33:09.100 --> 01:33:17.100
Now, at minute 21, he already has the Aghanus, the Facebooks, and Kaia. It's a very good timing for him.

01:33:17.100 --> 01:33:21.100
Of course, the hero isn't as strong this early on. He still scales a lot with levels.

01:33:21.100 --> 01:33:27.100
Level 12, of course, is a big power spike, but he needs level 3 ulti, maybe a couple of those talents as well.

01:33:30.100 --> 01:33:36.100
He managed to take a tower at the very least, so the map is starting to open up somewhat, as the mid-tower goes down on Dio's side.

01:33:37.100 --> 01:33:45.100
Crit, he understands the assignments. Now that he has blinked Dio, it's time to ward up as much of the Dio map as possible, so that you can find the Sloan Druid when he's farming these annoying areas.

01:33:45.100 --> 01:33:46.100
This firefly.

01:33:46.100 --> 01:33:51.100
It's actually going to give information. They know where he's at. They find him with Mira.

01:33:51.100 --> 01:33:56.100
He left little breadcrumbs behind him. Fiery breadcrumbs. He could follow Global.

01:33:56.100 --> 01:34:04.100
He's handling Claws. Oh, it's away. Okay. Where was the bash button? What's happening, bro?

01:34:04.100 --> 01:34:08.100
Not a lot of attack speed just yet on the berry. Even with the Mjolnir it seems like.

01:34:08.100 --> 01:34:12.100
But Global is down though. Global is down, yeah.

01:34:12.100 --> 01:34:16.100
No global for you, Crit, but for myself, yeah, sure.

01:34:18.100 --> 01:34:22.100
On the bright side, if the fights are happening on the dire side of the map, it's buying time for Skeeto.

01:34:22.100 --> 01:34:25.100
He's gonna be able to farm towards the blink dagger. He just finished the armlet now,

01:34:25.100 --> 01:34:29.100
so also has a bit more presence in any kind of skirmish they might find.

01:34:29.100 --> 01:34:31.100
This hero does farm very quickly, by the way.

01:34:31.100 --> 01:34:37.100
And he's keeping up, he's keeping up somewhat, not really with the laundry,

01:34:37.100 --> 01:34:42.820
But with some other courses keeping up, and you can see that he's had a nice influx of gold recently.

01:34:43.940 --> 01:34:49.380
But the thing is, for this hero to farm successfully, the Skellies need to roam free.

01:34:49.380 --> 01:34:55.660
They need to... Free range Skellies, you know, they have to peck around, hit any creeps, push the wave.

01:34:56.160 --> 01:35:02.460
But they've been killed off by Largo in a lot of these circumstances, so...

01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:04.460
A bit harder for Skidder.

01:35:04.460 --> 01:35:07.460
Actually, there are so many ways to kill these Kellys, right?

01:35:07.460 --> 01:35:11.460
Mjolnir, over authority available, you have fatal bombs, you have Lago just in general.

01:35:12.460 --> 01:35:16.460
Yeah, even with the song, right? You can get rid of them.

01:35:16.460 --> 01:35:22.460
They have been buffed, which is the nice thing, which is why Wraith King even came back into the meta.

01:35:22.460 --> 01:35:26.460
You have the Vampirica aura basically built in on them.

01:35:26.460 --> 01:35:27.460
Nightful?

01:35:27.460 --> 01:35:28.460
Mm-hmm.

01:35:28.460 --> 01:35:29.460
Well...

01:35:29.460 --> 01:35:33.460
What did we discuss, whilst when Silencer was picked into the laundry?

01:35:33.460 --> 01:35:36.900
literally said it was gonna be the most miserable game of snagging's life

01:35:36.900 --> 01:35:42.340
gonna just get concerted down by the bear over and over he's zero nine

01:35:42.340 --> 01:35:47.780
not his fault Aurora now they will decide to use the chaotic off-frame within

01:35:47.780 --> 01:35:53.100
the Roshan pit securing the first ages of the game they're doing this even without

01:35:53.100 --> 01:35:56.220
the loan to a bear being here

01:35:56.580 --> 01:36:01.220
there aren't really many heroes currently that enjoy playing into the spirit

01:36:01.220 --> 01:36:10.220
especially from a support position, but if you have some sort of mobility or some sort of a disable, at least you can get away.

01:36:10.220 --> 01:36:18.220
Silencer has absolutely nothing, so he's queuing up a ghost after... it's okay, but they have a built-in dispel on the other side as well.

01:36:18.220 --> 01:36:21.220
10k gold bead right now for Aurora.

01:36:21.220 --> 01:36:26.220
It's Mira. Ooh, nice reaction time for Melrion to get away from the hex.

01:36:26.220 --> 01:36:32.860
Still though, this map feels very claustrophobic.

01:36:32.860 --> 01:36:35.860
So one of the things I was thinking about this Batrider, you know, you have Pango, you're

01:36:35.860 --> 01:36:39.980
supposed to be able to hunt on the other side of the map and find this Loan Druid, but if

01:36:39.980 --> 01:36:43.580
you're playing over here right now, for example this ward that Crit placed earlier, they can't

01:36:43.580 --> 01:36:44.940
really utilize it at the moment.

01:36:44.940 --> 01:36:50.980
I think we need to actually forget about hunting the Druid on the other side.

01:36:50.980 --> 01:36:54.340
Hamar, he might be the one that's getting hunted here, god heck stuff.

01:36:54.340 --> 01:36:58.100
Nightfall is not even going for Amar, he's just gonna go directly for sleep

01:36:58.100 --> 01:36:58.980
3F

01:36:58.980 --> 01:37:00.580
Oh come on dude

01:37:00.580 --> 01:37:01.780
Bro let him live

01:37:01.780 --> 01:37:02.820
Nightfall dudes

01:37:02.820 --> 01:37:04.340
Let him play Dota Gang, come on

01:37:06.820 --> 01:37:09.300
He just likes the easy catch, you know

01:37:11.940 --> 01:37:14.580
Amar is so annoying for Amar, you know, you put yourself on the front lines and they're like

01:37:14.580 --> 01:37:16.260
Okay guys, focus me and they're like

01:37:16.260 --> 01:37:18.260
Ah we'd rather not actually, we're just gonna ignore you

01:37:20.100 --> 01:37:22.580
The, he wants the meat that's tender

01:37:22.580 --> 01:37:27.300
Back, gonna get jumped onto by Makoto and Mira.

01:37:27.300 --> 01:37:32.920
Crypt dies, another Galvanized stack, another Finger of Death stack, and another Tier 2 Tower,

01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:34.640
gonna go the way of Aurora.

01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.260
It's a fever dream to try and find the Laundryrd by the way.

01:37:37.260 --> 01:37:42.080
He's way too far on the other side of the map, just absolutely chilling farming.

01:37:42.080 --> 01:37:46.740
Silver Edge is really not too far away, he's got Shadowblade now as well, flying out with

01:37:46.740 --> 01:37:48.180
the Silver Edge recipe.

01:37:48.180 --> 01:37:50.940
He just needs the Demon Edge and it's complete.

01:37:50.940 --> 01:37:54.960
But he was getting these kills even without it, like usually the trouble starts when the

01:37:54.960 --> 01:38:00.380
spirit pair is hitting you without even seeing him coming right through the Silver Edge.

01:38:00.380 --> 01:38:06.700
And Crystal, the one that we discussed being a little bit tougher to Chouon with the Silver

01:38:06.700 --> 01:38:08.860
Edge, they can kill him as well.

01:38:08.860 --> 01:38:13.540
Okay, we do have a blink dagger on Skiddo though, so how can we want to do something?

01:38:13.540 --> 01:38:17.380
They have all their ultimates available, they have multiple blink daggers, there's ever

01:38:17.380 --> 01:38:20.140
going to be a time to try and make something happen.

01:38:20.140 --> 01:38:23.740
It has to be soon, but sadly there's already an Aegis, so I don't even know if you can go right now.

01:38:23.740 --> 01:38:26.740
There's an Aegis and there's a DD as well, Bottle.

01:38:26.740 --> 01:38:32.540
You can and you should make a move, but you need to find the right target. Storm probably isn't the one.

01:38:32.540 --> 01:38:37.940
Well, Storm is actually gonna target somebody else. He was looking towards getting Mal'Rean, but Mal'Rean was just chobating.

01:38:37.940 --> 01:38:43.240
Global Silence allows him to kill off Mira. The roll is gonna be there, Makoto, will he get caught? No.

01:38:43.240 --> 01:38:46.040
does manage to get out, but they get something out of this.

01:38:46.040 --> 01:38:50.280
Nightfall has delivered the bear into the fray, but just savage rolls Amar,

01:38:50.280 --> 01:38:51.800
creating space for Kaori.

01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:54.280
Makoto is still going back in, looking towards Krithy.

01:38:54.280 --> 01:38:56.120
knows the lasso is down, happy to kill Amorph.

01:38:56.120 --> 01:38:59.880
Snakey doesn't have global silence either, he's going to get run down,

01:38:59.880 --> 01:39:02.280
does manage to get forced off onto the hydra.

01:39:02.280 --> 01:39:05.800
Makoto happy to chase him though, securing a double kill on the other side of the fight.

01:39:05.800 --> 01:39:11.240
Kaori trying to get away from Amar, but Amar way too strong on this bristleback,

01:39:11.240 --> 01:39:16.240
Leveraging the strength of the blade mail to zone back Aurora and kill off Kaori.

01:39:16.240 --> 01:39:18.240
They forced the buyback as well.

01:39:18.240 --> 01:39:22.240
Mira actually used this buyback. It wasn't truly forced.

01:39:22.240 --> 01:39:26.240
I feel like Aurora were the ones that forced the buyback by re-engaging.

01:39:26.240 --> 01:39:31.240
Storm of course dealing a lot of damage with the double damage bottled, but...

01:39:31.240 --> 01:39:35.240
A successful-ish fight for Falcons, do you agree?

01:39:35.240 --> 01:39:39.240
It was the best that you could expect at this stage of the game right now.

01:39:39.240 --> 01:39:46.960
Meera and forcing his pie back. It's okay. 12k difference in network. It's pretty good.

01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:54.400
Some new items streaming in for Aurora. DKB has arrived for the Largo. The most important

01:39:54.400 --> 01:39:59.040
thing for me is that Skeeter got involved and didn't die. Got some good damage out.

01:39:59.040 --> 01:40:05.120
Snakey dies again and they're hunting Gamar as well. They have Silver Edge.

01:40:05.120 --> 01:40:08.400
They do, and they're coming in from the left-hand side of the map here.

01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:11.080
He knows. He knows he's being hunted.

01:40:11.080 --> 01:40:13.860
WS has also tied a pincer from the other side.

01:40:13.860 --> 01:40:18.540
Amar gets broken, the right click will come out to activate the blademail, but who the hell cares?

01:40:18.540 --> 01:40:19.780
Still strong, actually.

01:40:19.780 --> 01:40:23.140
Hold the procs, Doc. He's still very strong, gets feared back,

01:40:23.140 --> 01:40:26.140
Mira able to find the earth strike, they get in front of him,

01:40:26.140 --> 01:40:29.940
and there is gonna be the damage. Nightfall ends the killing spree of Amar.

01:40:29.940 --> 01:40:34.820
He managed to drop the bear a little bit, at least 50% HP with the blademail and the right clicks.

01:40:34.820 --> 01:40:40.820
Of course the minus armor always in handy versus Spirit Bear, but they collapse on him very nicely.

01:40:40.820 --> 01:40:44.820
Another strength of the Laundry, there's a lot of them.

01:40:44.820 --> 01:40:48.820
But another one that we just witnessed is just map control and map vision.

01:40:48.820 --> 01:40:54.820
Like you have this Invis creep, hero creep that is constantly giving you vision.

01:40:54.820 --> 01:40:58.820
It's so much easier to play like right now on snaking maybe.

01:40:58.820 --> 01:41:05.260
So they're snaking, getting caught again, my fault, it's not allowing this man to play Dota 13 just on him.

01:41:05.260 --> 01:41:09.380
Miro might die because Skeeter and Mal-Reed have more than enough damage to take out this lion.

01:41:09.380 --> 01:41:11.100
That's a dieback on him as well.

01:41:11.100 --> 01:41:17.340
Skeeter, he is trying to run from this bear but he gets dragged back by the vortex, they cannot save him.

01:41:17.340 --> 01:41:20.660
Ultimate will be triggered out, can they bring him down again?

01:41:20.660 --> 01:41:23.420
No they cannot. Link died a beautiful done by Skeeter.

01:41:23.420 --> 01:41:29.020
Very quick versus the song, versus the Largo about frogs as well.

01:41:29.020 --> 01:41:31.220
He does manage to get away.

01:41:31.220 --> 01:41:36.740
This was maybe an opportunity for Falcons to fight because there's no longer an Aegis on Storm.

01:41:39.740 --> 01:41:41.940
There's a Magnum's on Warlock, though.

01:41:41.940 --> 01:41:43.700
They're finding...

01:41:43.700 --> 01:41:45.180
Yeah, he's been farming a bit.

01:41:45.180 --> 01:41:46.300
He's been hitting those creeps.

01:41:46.300 --> 01:41:51.620
He has the greedy as well on the Warlock, even though he is 3-1-12,

01:41:51.620 --> 01:41:53.620
Which is a good score, of course, for him.

01:41:53.620 --> 01:41:54.620
It's found.

01:41:55.120 --> 01:41:56.620
Some nice items.

01:41:57.120 --> 01:41:59.120
Refresher next, of course.

01:42:00.120 --> 01:42:04.120
In his element, however, a lot of initiation possible from Falcons.

01:42:04.120 --> 01:42:06.620
They have the smoke, they have the global.

01:42:06.620 --> 01:42:09.620
They're baiting on the Raid King. Raid King has no ulti, though.

01:42:10.120 --> 01:42:12.120
Yeah, this could be dangerous.

01:42:13.120 --> 01:42:15.120
We saw earlier on when they put out the damage stats.

01:42:15.120 --> 01:42:17.620
Did you see how much of the contribution Omar is making?

01:42:17.620 --> 01:42:19.620
They're doing the lone Druid maneuver.

01:42:19.620 --> 01:42:21.120
They're going for the Druid.

01:42:21.120 --> 01:42:23.520
They're actually doing that? I mean, they even scanned.

01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:26.240
Look, he used the form though.

01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:28.200
Let's see the game sense that he has.

01:42:28.200 --> 01:42:29.320
Unfortunately, look back.

01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:29.920
Skeeter!

01:42:30.280 --> 01:42:31.400
Skeeter got caught on first.

01:42:31.400 --> 01:42:32.920
They're going for the Wraith King. Wraith King's dead.

01:42:33.240 --> 01:42:35.480
They are eventually gonna get on top of Nightfall here.

01:42:35.480 --> 01:42:36.680
Can they save him?

01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:39.200
His team is here, Kaori drops the chaotic offering.

01:42:39.200 --> 01:42:40.880
They bring back the bear as well.

01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:44.600
Nightfall is gonna die, but Amar almost died as well.

01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:47.200
Thankfully, manages to bring down the bear with the blade mail.

01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:49.880
Largopa shows up on WS.

01:42:49.880 --> 01:42:53.600
Let's see if they can find the frog, stop catching it, go directly onto Amar.

01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:56.640
So yes, they found Nightfall, but they lost Skeeter in their own jungle.

01:42:56.640 --> 01:43:01.880
Two heroes in the attempt to kill the bear, in the end, it does not feel like it was worth it.

01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:04.800
It doesn't. It definitely does not.

01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:10.480
But just a crazy maneuver across the map, also pivoting for the raid can kill as well.

01:43:10.480 --> 01:43:18.680
Just, if Skeeter had his ulti there and he survives and maybe blinks out, maybe fights after,

01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:23.240
maybe buys a bit more time it would be great for Falcons but unfortunately he didn't have it

01:43:23.240 --> 01:43:28.840
it's still a very long cooldown ultimate right at this point it's 150 seconds for the

01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:37.960
resurrection so he died a bit too quickly they took at the bear though like proof of concept at

01:43:37.960 --> 01:43:43.080
least they know where he's going to be farming most of the time and they did hunt him down

01:43:43.080 --> 01:43:53.080
Oh, what can you do? You know, actually I don't even feel sorry for him. What he's been doing to sneaking. Nah, you deserve that death knife. You're not right for that one, Skeeter. Skeeter in danger.

01:43:53.080 --> 01:44:03.080
Does have the ultimate this time around. His team is on route to try and help him, but they'll force out the first ulti. They have to be very careful about how they approach this fight, but they don't have the loan druid nearby, so.

01:44:03.080 --> 01:44:07.560
nearby so I think Skeeter should be 5 Makoto though and at least try to kill somebody else

01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:11.240
who wants Skeeter looking towards Krith but Krith got up the last though beautiful earth

01:44:11.240 --> 01:44:16.040
bike from Nero to buy time for Makoto he gets off his BKB able to zip out of the last moment

01:44:16.040 --> 01:44:22.240
Hex now going out to Malrin Lago and a jump and run interference in the middle of the

01:44:22.240 --> 01:44:26.560
fight so in fact the rest of Falcons, the bear is coming, the bear is on routes wants

01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:30.440
to get on the high ground and get the hex the earth bike onto Malrin the bear is there

01:44:30.440 --> 01:44:31.880
but it gets stunned out by Skeeter.

01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:33.520
Gonna save the life of Mal'Reen.

01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:36.060
Might decide to re-engage onto Mira as Amar

01:44:36.060 --> 01:44:38.240
trying to run this lion down.

01:44:38.240 --> 01:44:40.220
Not gonna be able to do so in the end,

01:44:40.220 --> 01:44:43.380
but they do isolate and kill off the bears or falcons,

01:44:43.380 --> 01:44:45.920
yet again showing that the bear is not immortal.

01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:47.520
Actually, I'm cold-owned as well.

01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:50.720
Now for 40 seconds, killing it at this point

01:44:50.720 --> 01:44:52.480
is pretty damn good.

01:44:52.480 --> 01:44:54.200
They have 40.

01:44:54.200 --> 01:44:55.360
I think this is sad to say,

01:44:55.360 --> 01:44:59.440
but they have 40 seconds to play a normal game of Dota,

01:44:59.440 --> 01:45:04.720
5-on-5 at least. Of course the resummoned is coming very shortly.

01:45:07.200 --> 01:45:13.760
Okay, so with 16k gold behind, what does Gita need to buy next? He's going to go BKB and then

01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:18.080
after that what does he need to actually make sure he has enough punch, enough oomph in the

01:45:18.080 --> 01:45:27.600
Wraith King? I was about to say maybe an AC but Amar is buying it so he can maybe opt for something

01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:32.700
a little bit more self-centered, or if you want to make the game a bit even when it comes

01:45:32.700 --> 01:45:38.260
to Resurrection, Aghanim's is an interesting choice by the way as well on Rage King.

01:45:38.260 --> 01:45:40.860
It's one of those items that you don't always want.

01:45:40.860 --> 01:45:44.540
He doesn't want what's happening to him right now, he's getting jumped upon, he does find

01:45:44.540 --> 01:45:49.020
a very nice lasso, Amar gonna charge to the far end of the fight, he drops a chaotic offering

01:45:49.020 --> 01:45:52.300
on top of him as Mikoto does manage to finish off Snake King and Crit.

01:45:52.300 --> 01:45:56.620
Amar, hexed up, the bear is on top of him, they're trying to get this damage out, WS

01:45:56.620 --> 01:46:00.020
strumming his song they end up losing Mirror to Amar but Nightfall will get

01:46:00.020 --> 01:46:04.340
immediate revenge, going deeper into the fight looking for Kaori not

01:46:04.340 --> 01:46:08.180
gonna be able to find him one more right click is there at least the Rayfire

01:46:08.180 --> 01:46:12.820
Bloss gets the kill but it will cost his own life he's gonna get immediately

01:46:12.820 --> 01:46:18.820
sabbathroad upon resurrection and his life is forfeit Aurora even forcing a

01:46:18.820 --> 01:46:24.440
buyback out of Smaking to no avail. The only one that manages to get away is the

01:46:24.440 --> 01:46:29.000
pangolier on the other side of the map but yeah not something that you're too

01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:34.720
proud about if your falcons the fight went horribly wrong for them because

01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:40.160
they initiate on the storm post BKB right you you catch him in the last so you

01:46:40.160 --> 01:46:45.800
get all your initiation plus global on a PKB target he's gone come on man that's

01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:49.320
a dieback on Snail right now 70 seconds in the grave this might be rags actually

01:46:49.320 --> 01:46:56.320
And they found Crit as well inside the base. Aurora showing no Quota here in Game 1.

01:46:56.320 --> 01:47:04.320
Absolutely. Lincoln's as well now on Storm Spirit. So the way that you initiated on him before is no longer dead.

01:47:04.320 --> 01:47:10.320
It's still possible, like they have 4 staff on the bat, they can break the Lincoln's but it's not easy any longer.

01:47:10.320 --> 01:47:17.320
And Bear has not only a BKB, but he's getting closer to a Butterfly as well.

01:47:19.320 --> 01:47:23.320
Okay, this surely will be the fastest load game of this one, right?

01:47:23.320 --> 01:47:24.320
I think so.

01:47:24.320 --> 01:47:31.320
If it continues this way, because Falcons are famous for managing to elongate some games,

01:47:31.320 --> 01:47:32.320
you know, make them...

01:47:32.320 --> 01:47:37.320
Usually when they're in front, they do that, because they're just very disciplined.

01:47:37.320 --> 01:47:40.320
And they're playing from behind, perhaps not as much.

01:47:43.320 --> 01:47:46.320
26,000 is the lead right now for Aurora.

01:47:46.320 --> 01:47:53.320
Roshan is available, they are gonna pick it into the pit, get another Aegis towards Makoto.

01:47:53.320 --> 01:47:58.900
He's gonna have Aegis and his shield room. I feel like after this you can just run down

01:47:58.900 --> 01:48:02.160
bottom all together as five, not really much they can do to stop it.

01:48:02.160 --> 01:48:08.880
You could probably go into the fountain if you want to, at this point.

01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:12.720
Aegis from Makoto, Banner picked up as well for Aurora and immediately they smoke up,

01:48:12.720 --> 01:48:16.720
They understand the assignment. They also have an observer that sees a mark.

01:48:16.720 --> 01:48:20.720
Will he be fast enough to get to the safety of the base? It seems that way.

01:48:20.720 --> 01:48:21.720
Oh no.

01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:22.720
Waiting for the wave.

01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:26.720
No, no, don't do it a mark. The creep cap ain't worth it. It ain't worth it, gang.

01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:29.720
He gets brought back by the vortex. There will be a fear though.

01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:32.720
And the double four-stop gets him back into the base.

01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.720
I'm sure that they don't have four-stops for the supports.

01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:38.720
The crit will get himself fingered to death.

01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:43.560
Another stack before this lion and now a dead back rider as a push is incoming.

01:48:43.560 --> 01:48:46.720
Another team that they're getting from the lion of course.

01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:47.720
Man on storm.

01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:48.720
Oh yeah.

01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:49.720
Skeeter.

01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:50.720
There was a carry.

01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:52.720
Hi, casually for his first life.

01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:56.720
Hamar will rush forward with the BKB to destroy the Roshan's banner.

01:48:56.720 --> 01:48:58.720
What else can he do in the fight mode?

01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:03.720
If BKB is soon going to expire and then he's in some real trouble, he cannot move back to these entangling claws.

01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:06.720
There the chaotic offering drops before the global does.

01:49:06.720 --> 01:49:12.920
So Kaori gets off his magic, Skeeter with the BKB trying to rush down this wall off, but he doesn't care.

01:49:13.280 --> 01:49:18.600
This entire team is around him. They're gonna make sure that you rule the day you ever left your base.

01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:23.920
Skeeter is down and honestly Lizzy, I feel like this game is absolutely over.

01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:30.400
It's GG. It's over. I respect Falcons for trying to mount this one last defense with the BKBs,

01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:35.200
but this game was over a long time ago. It feels like post laning stage

01:49:35.200 --> 01:49:39.640
it was a very difficult game to come back into because I don't think it was

01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:45.160
on Falcons to lose the lanes as hard as they did. Dota, you know, when you're

01:49:45.160 --> 01:49:50.200
drafting you need to at least even out one win one and lose one lane but all

01:49:50.200 --> 01:49:54.640
three lanes were in a prettier off-state. Aurora gaming demonstrating that just

01:49:54.640 --> 01:49:58.480
because you have loan druid doesn't mean the game is gonna be a slow one as we

01:49:58.480 --> 01:50:02.040
send it back to the panel. Richie Rich break down the action and the momentum

01:50:02.040 --> 01:50:07.160
from Aurora. Thank you Snarey Snare, appreciate that. I mean look I was saying

01:50:07.160 --> 01:50:11.640
in the pre-show I didn't think Aurora had the source, I was feeling good for

01:50:11.640 --> 01:50:18.560
Falcons, Amra, that this is a very saucy team. It's just the it's a repeat of the

01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:22.880
last four games they played against each other. As Aurora is pretty much stomping,

01:50:22.880 --> 01:50:27.560
Falcons just trying to go with this like line-up, they're trying to go late game

01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:31.360
I guess. I feel like they're waiting to have no place in this draft and who's

01:50:31.360 --> 01:50:36.720
the last pick. Basically picking a hero that needs to have a good lane into a losing matchup.

01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:40.480
So I don't know if they're lost for kills on skater.

01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:48.240
I mean I'll say this, Aoi did say me and Aoi would slacks that we're gonna try something in game one.

01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:52.960
I just don't know what it was with them. It doesn't feel like they tried anything, does it?

01:50:54.640 --> 01:51:01.040
I guess they tried letting the ones root through. It seems like if you're playing against a player,

01:51:01.040 --> 01:51:08.640
the caliber of Nightfall, who's playing the Lone Druid, it's like it's too busted, like, okay,

01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:14.960
point number one, incredible performance from Nightfall, it's, I will be impressed,

01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:21.680
time and time again, that he can somehow manage to play a, you know, specialty hero, he, we looked

01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:27.200
like previous series with him, like he never played this in the history of Dota, and yet he's able

01:51:27.200 --> 01:51:31.800
able to pull it out. He has faith that he can just spam this hero on pubs and play it

01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:38.520
extremely well to the caliber of a lone druid spammer. It looks so amazing. And the fact

01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:43.400
that he can farm with the main hero in the triangle, you're saying we, these good lone

01:51:43.400 --> 01:51:47.960
druids, they'll farm with their hero in the side camps and then they'll go to the triangle,

01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:53.400
they'll pop holes, which now gives you damage. And you just have this, basically, his main

01:51:53.400 --> 01:51:55.480
hero is like a Midas, like a super Midas.

01:51:55.480 --> 01:51:57.000
Yeah, might as well throw in.

01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:00.040
Even when you smoke to kill the main guy, the bear is still alive.

01:52:00.040 --> 01:52:05.320
It just, to me, it seems like if there's anything that you're gonna let through, it shouldn't be this.

01:52:06.120 --> 01:52:09.160
The hero does too much, it's clearly overtuned.

01:52:09.160 --> 01:52:11.560
It's very frustrating to play against too.

01:52:11.560 --> 01:52:15.560
It feels like you have to make a lot of moves just to bring the game to an even state.

01:52:15.560 --> 01:52:20.760
And good lord, with a Wraith King as your carry, I don't know if you can do that.

01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:23.760
Falcons definitely having a rough one.

01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:27.760
This guy, this is On Storm, loved it.

01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:31.760
These are the types of heroes you want him to play.

01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:40.760
This guy played so well this game, and not only that, but his pick, I'm not sure if they plan this as a team.

01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:47.760
It is one of his heroes, he plays all the spirits, but this one in particular, the Stormspirit, is so good against Falcons.

01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:51.760
because all of Malrin's heroes suffer against a storm,

01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:54.560
besides the host card, but it's banned every game, of course.

01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:58.400
And, on top of that falcons, they do want to open the map,

01:52:58.400 --> 01:53:01.680
and the reason why they get so much farm on their course,

01:53:01.680 --> 01:53:03.120
because they split the map, right?

01:53:03.120 --> 01:53:04.960
This guy's going to be alone, this guy's going to be alone,

01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:06.800
supports are always somewhere in between.

01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:10.720
Now, the storm, storm is the best hero at catching these heroes,

01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.840
and he showed that this game, he always was on top of the support,

01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:15.840
I think always finding the course.

01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:17.280
Your theory has to be right,

01:53:17.280 --> 01:53:21.840
because they also picked lion too and like of course Mira plays a fantastic line. It's one of

01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:27.120
his favorite heroes but like lion storm to me says we are going to pick you off like name a

01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:32.720
support that's better at picking people off you can't name a mid that's better at picking people

01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:37.280
off you can't they pick the two best in those two positions for their two really aggro players

01:53:37.280 --> 01:53:40.880
like to me what you're the theory that you're saying makes a lot of sense i feel like they've

01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:44.800
they've figured it out from falcons and now falcons has to retaliate with like

01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:47.100
like, how do you have a better early game?

01:53:47.100 --> 01:53:49.340
You cannot simply farm against this team.

01:53:49.340 --> 01:53:50.460
They're not going to allow it.

01:53:50.460 --> 01:53:52.260
They've cracked the case for that.

01:53:52.260 --> 01:53:54.100
Well, we also said as well, like, you know,

01:53:54.100 --> 01:53:56.220
shoot down a ma, you shoot down Falcons.

01:53:56.220 --> 01:53:57.620
I mean, take a look at this.

01:53:57.620 --> 01:54:00.780
This was just a crazy differential

01:54:00.780 --> 01:54:02.140
coming out of that landing phase.

01:54:02.140 --> 01:54:03.580
You can see, you know,

01:54:03.580 --> 01:54:05.540
on one of these signature heroes as well.

01:54:05.540 --> 01:54:06.580
Yeah, this was rough.

01:54:06.580 --> 01:54:08.540
Like, when you look at these two net worths,

01:54:08.540 --> 01:54:10.420
you know, 3,800, 2700,

01:54:11.420 --> 01:54:13.220
you're not thinking eight minutes into the game,

01:54:13.220 --> 01:54:15.500
that there's this big of a difference,

01:54:15.500 --> 01:54:18.380
like 1,100 gold difference between these two heroes.

01:54:18.380 --> 01:54:20.700
Amar had a really rough time.

01:54:20.700 --> 01:54:22.620
Not only did he get killed in the lane,

01:54:22.620 --> 01:54:24.160
he got zoned out of the lane,

01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:27.420
but Aurora was also very good at contesting his stacks.

01:54:27.420 --> 01:54:30.100
So even though he was getting a few of them every now and then,

01:54:30.100 --> 01:54:33.500
and he was able to jungle and come back like, okay,

01:54:33.500 --> 01:54:35.260
it still was not comfortable for him.

01:54:35.260 --> 01:54:38.940
Like, whereas Nightfall for the entire game was free form,

01:54:38.940 --> 01:54:41.820
like legit, every creep he wanted to hit, he could hit,

01:54:41.820 --> 01:54:45.280
And this is the type of guy that I don't think you want to give that sort of advantage to.

01:54:45.280 --> 01:54:47.280
Also Zero denies an Amar.

01:54:47.280 --> 01:54:48.780
Something we don't really see.

01:54:48.780 --> 01:54:49.780
That's rare.

01:54:49.780 --> 01:54:50.780
That's rare.

01:54:50.780 --> 01:54:55.860
And then we go forward to 26 minutes away and this is the net worth.

01:54:55.860 --> 01:55:00.360
Well I want to talk about the kills here, like in 60-24, right?

01:55:00.360 --> 01:55:05.980
And from the stat that I pulled up about the last four skills together, basically Falcons

01:55:05.980 --> 01:55:12.460
have had one kill and give four deaths for every kill in the last four series and they're sticking

01:55:12.460 --> 01:55:18.540
true to it in this game for every kill that they do they're giving out four kills and it feels like

01:55:18.540 --> 01:55:23.500
Aurora just pretty much just has their number they understand exactly what they have to do

01:55:24.620 --> 01:55:29.900
it feels like such a tough matchup for Falcons because this is a team that it's kind of always

01:55:29.900 --> 01:55:34.700
doing the same thing they don't really like pull out something new try a different strategy

01:55:34.700 --> 01:55:38.540
It's always been like, how can we get away with the lane so we can just go late game?

01:55:38.540 --> 01:55:43.660
I like that you said that Aurora gives away four kills for every like 12 or whatever the

01:55:43.660 --> 01:55:49.820
ratio is. Like they choose to give it away because the Falcons, but for on the other side like Aurora,

01:55:49.820 --> 01:55:55.660
they were very good at escaping fights. If like Falcons would have Fiora three spawning or buying

01:55:55.660 --> 01:56:01.500
back or a bunch of Fiora's TPing in, Aurora in this game was very good at like letting Mira die

01:56:01.500 --> 01:56:06.540
and then Makoto gets out, like the cores will escape, and they're fine with taking those trades

01:56:06.540 --> 01:56:10.380
because they know that the ratio is so good for them that they're taking the better trades.

01:56:10.380 --> 01:56:14.140
Yeah, we can also fast forward a little bit, 31 minutes, there's a little

01:56:14.140 --> 01:56:19.340
cool play that we noticed, I think. Well, this is a very cool play that I think a lot of teams

01:56:19.340 --> 01:56:23.740
should definitely look into it and try and do it a little bit more against Longwood,

01:56:23.740 --> 01:56:28.380
because everybody knows where the Longwood is, right? You know, we see the top side, bottom side.

01:56:28.380 --> 01:56:35.100
Now Falcons decide they're gonna take the risk, they scan the bottom side, they put out a smoke, and they find the laundry.

01:56:35.100 --> 01:56:38.860
They get this big kill, and they get the bear on top of it too.

01:56:38.860 --> 01:56:43.260
By no means he had, he needed to recall, but he did recall it and it died.

01:56:43.260 --> 01:56:46.140
So this is how you shut down the laundry.

01:56:46.140 --> 01:56:51.020
It's a hard move to pull off, but I feel like it's the most impactful to do against the laundry.

01:56:51.020 --> 01:56:53.740
The hero we've been seeing over and over again in the tournament.

01:56:53.740 --> 01:56:56.700
So Falcons did try new things, like I said.

01:56:56.700 --> 01:57:05.500
it's not good enough. Yeah it's a final thought. To me it seems like way too much effort for way too

01:57:05.500 --> 01:57:10.460
little. It's a reflection of the hero being completely over tuned and Nightfall being good at

01:57:10.460 --> 01:57:15.420
playing it and I think test failed back to the drawing board don't let the lone druid play some

01:57:15.420 --> 01:57:21.420
normal dota. Yeah well let's see if they do that but for now Aurora are brilliant and blinding we'll

01:57:21.420 --> 01:57:23.420
We'll see if that continues after the break.

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And back in your every move.

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Everybody, we are doing Ask the Experts yet again.

01:58:50.340 --> 01:58:52.820
We have Ross Sinnerin, local analyst,

01:58:52.820 --> 01:58:57.340
expert to tell us the top five players of all time

01:58:57.340 --> 01:58:58.380
in their prime.

01:58:58.380 --> 01:59:01.060
I'm not talking about over the course of now

01:59:01.060 --> 01:59:02.740
and then in their prime.

01:59:02.740 --> 01:59:03.580
Right.

01:59:03.580 --> 01:59:04.420
Who is it?

01:59:04.420 --> 01:59:05.260
I'm doing one per position.

01:59:05.260 --> 01:59:06.100
So that's Terry.

01:59:06.100 --> 01:59:06.940
That is correct.

01:59:06.940 --> 01:59:07.780
That's right, right.

01:59:07.780 --> 01:59:08.620
So let's start with a five.

01:59:08.620 --> 01:59:09.460
Right.

01:59:09.460 --> 01:59:11.820
So my pick for five is going to be Prime Puppy.

01:59:11.820 --> 01:59:12.820
Prime Puppers.

01:59:12.820 --> 01:59:13.660
Yes.

01:59:13.660 --> 01:59:15.260
I just think when he was at his very best,

01:59:15.260 --> 01:59:17.220
which was a decent amount of years, to be honest.

01:59:17.220 --> 01:59:19.300
Sure, sure. There was definitely some gap.

01:59:19.300 --> 01:59:20.820
I don't know what year you want to pick.

01:59:20.820 --> 01:59:23.300
You want to pick 2011, 12, 13, 14.

01:59:23.300 --> 01:59:25.780
I think he's a candidate for all of them, maybe even 15.

01:59:25.780 --> 01:59:27.340
One of the things we'll best. So I'll pick Puppy.

01:59:27.340 --> 01:59:28.460
Okay. He's my number five.

01:59:28.460 --> 01:59:30.060
Great choice. I'll pick my five.

01:59:30.060 --> 01:59:35.940
My four will be Surprise, Surprise, Prime Jarex from TI89 with OG.

01:59:35.940 --> 01:59:38.780
I just think he was something else.

01:59:38.780 --> 01:59:39.620
Yeah.

01:59:39.620 --> 01:59:43.220
For my three, I pick Zai. Zai!

01:59:43.220 --> 01:59:46.740
Specifically, the secret iteration with Zai, I think,

01:59:46.740 --> 01:59:50.100
was they went on a ridiculous tournament winning spree,

01:59:50.100 --> 01:59:51.900
and he was very flexible.

01:59:51.900 --> 01:59:53.340
He could play all sorts of styles.

01:59:53.340 --> 01:59:55.860
Insane hero, pool, very creative player.

01:59:55.860 --> 01:59:58.320
It's probably between him and 33.

01:59:59.660 --> 02:00:00.900
If I had to pick Al Pig Zai,

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and I think it's a big shame considering how good he was

02:00:03.260 --> 02:00:05.260
that he never won TI or about major.

02:00:05.260 --> 02:00:06.820
That was the COVID year.

02:00:06.820 --> 02:00:10.060
So when secret was winning, there was no TI right here.

02:00:10.060 --> 02:00:11.260
And they won everything.

02:00:11.260 --> 02:00:12.100
Yeah, he definitely won.

02:00:12.100 --> 02:00:14.100
So, super unfortunate.

02:00:14.100 --> 02:00:17.100
So, my mid-player will be a tie.

02:00:17.100 --> 02:00:18.100
Oh, a tie?

02:00:18.100 --> 02:00:20.100
A tie, because I couldn't choose

02:00:20.100 --> 02:00:22.100
between Somale and Miracle.

02:00:22.100 --> 02:00:24.100
Oh, okay, same arrow.

02:00:24.100 --> 02:00:28.100
DIC slash 2015, Somale was a total beast

02:00:28.100 --> 02:00:32.100
and Miracle around 2016-17, just something else.

02:00:32.100 --> 02:00:33.100
Absolutely.

02:00:33.100 --> 02:00:34.100
And finally, for Cary...

02:00:34.100 --> 02:00:35.100
Cary?

02:00:35.100 --> 02:00:36.100
I will pick Yatoro.

02:00:36.100 --> 02:00:38.100
Yatoro of all time, really?

02:00:38.100 --> 02:00:39.100
Yes.

02:00:39.100 --> 02:00:43.240
and Gatoro at his peak at, I think, the first TI they won't

02:00:43.240 --> 02:00:43.740
Tia 10.

02:00:43.740 --> 02:00:44.540
Yeah, yeah.

02:00:44.540 --> 02:00:46.340
Was incredible.

02:00:46.340 --> 02:00:46.940
Of course.

02:00:46.940 --> 02:00:47.620
Just something else.

02:00:47.620 --> 02:00:48.820
So, yeah, I think it's true.

02:00:48.820 --> 02:00:49.980
And he still maintains it to this day?

02:00:49.980 --> 02:00:50.900
Yeah, he's still very good.

02:00:50.900 --> 02:00:53.260
I mean, these lists are impossible to make,

02:00:53.260 --> 02:00:55.620
but I think we got some honorable mentions in there too.

02:00:55.620 --> 02:00:56.580
I don't think it's impossible.

02:00:56.580 --> 02:00:57.500
I think it's probable.

02:00:57.500 --> 02:00:58.780
We actually just did it.

02:00:58.780 --> 02:01:01.060
You guys just watched it.

02:01:01.060 --> 02:01:15.700
The most animated I've seen cinder and cinder in there was giving his goats right now if

02:01:15.700 --> 02:01:20.060
Vulcans are going to get back into this one they're going to have to play like some of

02:01:20.060 --> 02:01:27.900
those names we just listed because Aurora they have very much got their number we have

02:01:27.900 --> 02:01:34.400
Yeah, time and time again. This is the fifth game. They have pretty much just stomped Falcons in a row in the last two months.

02:01:34.900 --> 02:01:41.400
Falcons should definitely be worried. I mean, one time, two times, sure, could be a coincidence.

02:01:41.400 --> 02:01:43.900
Five times, you have to do something.

02:01:43.900 --> 02:01:46.400
Nobody beats Falcons six times in a row.

02:01:46.400 --> 02:01:46.900
Yes.

02:01:46.900 --> 02:01:50.900
Nobody stops Falcons six times in a row.

02:01:50.900 --> 02:01:52.900
It's crazy though.

02:01:52.900 --> 02:01:56.400
Falcons caliber getting just stomped by the same team over and over again.

02:01:56.400 --> 02:01:59.040
It's not usual like even among the

02:01:59.600 --> 02:02:03.380
You know the goat teams like the spirits of the world the liquids

02:02:03.640 --> 02:02:08.720
It kind of with Falcons it goes back and forth like I didn't realize that this was a trend because

02:02:09.360 --> 02:02:14.960
Within the top six Dota teams like it's always so close depending on the tournament that it's pretty crazy

02:02:14.960 --> 02:02:19.800
So it's clearly like a matchup issue. Yeah, something Aurora does something Aurora drafts

02:02:19.800 --> 02:02:24.200
Like the way that they like to play is just bad for the way that Falcons likes to play

02:02:24.200 --> 02:02:25.700
It was supposed to be mental too, right?

02:02:25.700 --> 02:02:26.200
Oh sure.

02:02:26.200 --> 02:02:29.700
Like maybe they just got stomped in the first series, or the first game they played,

02:02:29.700 --> 02:02:32.200
and the last two months, and from that point on,

02:02:32.200 --> 02:02:35.200
something must have clicked into Falcons head.

02:02:35.200 --> 02:02:37.700
I mean, let me tell you something that's funny.

02:02:37.700 --> 02:02:41.200
Amar yesterday, when asked by SirActionSlack,

02:02:41.200 --> 02:02:44.700
he said, anything you want to say to your enemies out there, your opponent?

02:02:44.700 --> 02:02:48.200
And he said, yeah, give us Huskar so we can win in 15 minutes.

02:02:48.200 --> 02:02:51.200
I don't think Falcons could win in 15 minutes with Huskar.

02:02:51.200 --> 02:02:52.700
I don't think they play like that.

02:02:52.700 --> 02:02:53.700
No, they definitely don't.

02:02:53.700 --> 02:02:58.700
Malrin can pull out the mid-Hoscar, but I think...

02:02:58.700 --> 02:03:00.700
But you still waited 45 minutes, bro.

02:03:00.700 --> 02:03:03.700
If they were to take it, Amaro probably would do something like,

02:03:03.700 --> 02:03:06.700
Oh, I missed the Hoscar, guys, I guess I'm playing Hoscar now.

02:03:06.700 --> 02:03:08.700
Something like that for sure.

02:03:08.700 --> 02:03:11.700
So, Lodgerwitz won't be in this one.

02:03:11.700 --> 02:03:15.700
We know Falcons are gonna ban Slardar every game, except that.

02:03:17.700 --> 02:03:20.700
So there's still a Batrider in the pool, that's really interesting.

02:03:20.700 --> 02:03:27.660
The Queen of Pain that got past the last game and I feel like Aurora go for the rubik in case Falcons go Queen

02:03:27.660 --> 02:03:33.540
They have done it before Maldrine has played this hero on first pick specifically quite well

02:03:33.540 --> 02:03:38.100
And I feel like that's why they banned the last game, but this time they don't care

02:03:38.100 --> 02:03:44.300
I do like first pick rubik. I think I think it blocks other picks. It does

02:03:44.820 --> 02:03:49.400
It makes underlord non-existent. It makes Queen of Pain uncomfortable

02:03:49.400 --> 02:03:56.520
you know Rubik we've talked about this the hero does so much right now it's

02:03:56.520 --> 02:04:00.480
not just this spell stealing guy that can you know steal the bush wax of the

02:04:00.480 --> 02:04:04.760
world and do it even better because he's getting the spell a we but he's also

02:04:04.760 --> 02:04:10.000
giving you raw damage reduction yeah you know walking rate pack and he's the

02:04:10.000 --> 02:04:15.440
best save in the game with the agonist chart like that to me is the number one

02:04:15.440 --> 02:04:20.360
reason to pick him and the spell steals have been insane. So the hero just does so much

02:04:20.360 --> 02:04:25.340
and it also reveals virtually nothing about your draft. You can play it 4 and 5 and as

02:04:25.340 --> 02:04:29.080
a 4, you're more than happy to play with like any off laner.

02:04:29.080 --> 02:04:34.480
So many good matchups on the off lane actually for Rubik. How do we go always a solid hero?

02:04:34.480 --> 02:04:36.560
I think Falcons are definitely happy with that.

02:04:36.560 --> 02:04:37.560
I'm not crits.

02:04:37.560 --> 02:04:38.560
They've buffed up their lanes quite a bit.

02:04:38.560 --> 02:04:42.120
They played this a lot and had a lot of success with it.

02:04:42.120 --> 02:04:46.200
And they had a big issue on lane's last game as well, so this will help.

02:04:46.200 --> 02:04:48.640
This is the lane winning hero basically.

02:04:48.640 --> 02:04:54.320
Yeah, he played it so much with a crazy high win rate.

02:04:54.320 --> 02:05:00.000
For some reason Aurora doesn't want to play against the pango anymore.

02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:06.920
Well Amar did say in the interview that his team loves pango and that they want to TI's

02:05:06.920 --> 02:05:07.920
with it.

02:05:07.920 --> 02:05:13.720
amalgamation of players on a steam so they will keep picking the shit regardless

02:05:13.720 --> 02:05:19.040
of whether or more wants to play it or not okay Falco's banned Beast and Queen I

02:05:19.040 --> 02:05:25.000
feel like this could potentially be a mid-battery again because these the Beast

02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:28.840
and the Queen are like two of Batraer's worst matchup yeah right yeah and

02:05:28.840 --> 02:05:33.080
Marlene does love to play the zero and I think it's just a better fit for Batraer

02:05:33.080 --> 02:05:42.040
Anyways to just be a core his firefight being buffed so much basically got the facet without the downside right the stoked facet would give you

02:05:42.040 --> 02:05:44.040
most speed than spell amp and

02:05:44.040 --> 02:05:50.120
Take damage over time instead as a negative right this time. They don't have the damage it doesn't have the damage anymore

02:05:50.120 --> 02:05:54.560
He doesn't take damage, but he doesn't have the spell up overall a very good buff

02:05:54.560 --> 02:05:57.640
And that's why we're seeing better every game so are you worried Andrew?

02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:05.560
it's a little bit telegraphed obviously we've got the hoodwing crits and and then you ban out two heroes that batriders and play well into

02:06:05.960 --> 02:06:07.960
It's too obviously a mid you know

02:06:07.960 --> 02:06:11.360
Well, I mean it's like we said Snaze be flying batrider in the pubs

02:06:11.480 --> 02:06:17.640
So it's not like it's completely out of the house. Yeah, but it's Falcon so it's very likely

02:06:17.640 --> 02:06:22.600
I I don't think they ever really care that much about telegraphing stuff and you know Aurora they

02:06:22.600 --> 02:06:27.760
They pick up puck which I think is fine against bat mid. I think both heroes will farm

02:06:27.760 --> 02:06:31.720
But we've seen what Makoto can do with this hero. It is

02:06:33.280 --> 02:06:40.280
Like borderline unlike any other puck in the world currently like the how how he can get himself to the light game

02:06:40.840 --> 02:06:47.640
Consistently and then become that like unkillable kills the back lines carries the game style puck octagon core

02:06:47.640 --> 02:06:50.560
or Parasmo, insane what he can do on this hero.

02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:53.600
A scary puck and a great matchup against the batting case

02:06:53.600 --> 02:06:55.680
to the side of the putt, actually,

02:06:55.680 --> 02:06:59.800
it's one of those heroes that you can only get countered

02:06:59.800 --> 02:07:00.880
if there's a good support.

02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:03.640
Like a science or a bat rider would destroy this puck, right?

02:07:03.640 --> 02:07:06.200
But if that thing doesn't exist, then the puck will thrive.

02:07:06.200 --> 02:07:08.480
And bat will suffer pretty much.

02:07:08.480 --> 02:07:09.920
And they go for the Largo again.

02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:11.560
10 seconds remaining.

02:07:11.560 --> 02:07:13.720
This time they don't have as many things to dispel,

02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:16.520
but we've only seen two heroes so far.

02:07:16.520 --> 02:07:19.960
Very good against the Batrider. They decide to put in support.

02:07:19.960 --> 02:07:22.200
I feel like they're going to lose so much value from this hero.

02:07:22.200 --> 02:07:24.840
Like last game I was pretty disappointed that they put in support.

02:07:24.840 --> 02:07:28.120
Largo is super cool actually because of the silencer that you mentioned.

02:07:28.120 --> 02:07:31.240
It's like, I remember Spirit would always...

02:07:31.240 --> 02:07:33.960
And you can see this in like the documentaries that they've done.

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They will pick like Storm plus silencer because they know that

02:07:38.360 --> 02:07:41.240
all the heroes that counter Storm don't like playing into silencer.

02:07:41.240 --> 02:07:43.320
And I feel like you have the flip side happening here

02:07:43.320 --> 02:07:49.080
where silencer seems really good against puck, so falcons feels like they have to pick it so that way the bat

02:07:49.640 --> 02:07:55.560
plus silencer is good against puck, but then you have Largo against silencer and we saw what happened in that matchup last game, right?

02:07:55.720 --> 02:08:02.120
So like this is really smart drafting coming from Aurora like super smart falcons still they take the bait

02:08:02.120 --> 02:08:06.360
They take the silencer because they need it against puck, so they're willing to take the gambit

02:08:07.240 --> 02:08:09.240
But it didn't work last game

02:08:09.240 --> 02:08:16.720
Hamar doesn't play Batrider right? I don't want to... I think he's not his type of hero.

02:08:16.720 --> 02:08:22.000
Yeah, he likes the Brawlers, he likes to farm a lot, which the Batrider can do, but

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he likes the guys that are super tanking hard to kill and farm. So this could most likely

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be a Batrider mid. Last night they did it. Yeah, we're getting some crazy

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territory. This is the first time Cas for Skeeter and now we've got the Void on Aurora as well.

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Was it the ready guy that the flamethrower is? Was it the Skeeter-Kiss?

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Maybe. I think it was some kids, some ready guys that is like the best kids in the world

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and this pro player sucks at this hero and I'm better. I should listen to me, I think.

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I feel I read those threads just like crazy threads on Reddit quite a bit actually.

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Yeah, well, the best is I have seen it a lot in matchmaking.

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I'm not impressed by it, but again, I'm just just a simple analyst.

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I'm just sitting here. He's the one playing the game.

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On the other hand, the faces void is pretty much Amy for like, I just,

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I just love the faces void pick at any time.

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I want to want to nightfalls like all time classic best heroes.

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He's been the game that I saw him play.

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he built Helmdom and he was, you know, early game kind of active with that.

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And obviously Helmdom is not giving you some like crazy damage.

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You can use it in the Chrono, but it's not like the creeps don't like,

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whoa, look at that, Ursa collab damage, you know, but it's more,

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you're like using the creep to zone.

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You're using it to like push out the wave while you're jungleing camps.

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You're using it effectively as like a Midas because it's giving you a percentage

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of the, of the bounty from killing creeps.

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So yeah, pretty, pretty cool build.

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So I don't think Faces Void is like, he's the best late game carry, sure, but it's not like he's totally slow in the early game, building battle fury, there is the option of going for the dawn build on him.

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I love that Aurora just went all in on Amar, actually, on the bands.

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Yeah, sure, why not?

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They've been six of his heroes from the seven bands that they have, and of course the other band being skilled as Tiny that he played eight games in this tournament.

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tournament. So is a Marge is going to be done. He's going to be Dawnbreaker because

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there's literally nothing left for him. Actually, he did play. This is the lineup they played

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last night. The battery is on, sir, with the don't break your off lane. The wind drew

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against the buck. But what's a what's a five that totally shits up? Well, okay, it's Kory.

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So he's going to be each Kiro. I was going to say you would nearly get into the weeds.

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I was about to start theorycrafting, but then I realized who who was playing yeah

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It's jacquero because jacquero is good with faceless void in the chrono warlock is less good

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That's how we played a lot of all because they could this could be a very good. Oh come on, dude. Yeah

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He plays he plays Phoenix he plays warlock and he plays jacquero

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Surprised you guys surprised you too

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He has played it in a tournament.

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It's a it's a very good laning hero. I think it also punishes

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the dawn in lane if

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Falcons do want to pick the dawn and it's also very good against Batrider like

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And Kess like DKB piercing disable slow against both of these heroes feels really bad

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The ult is super good against both of them

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I'm worried for Falcons because they're locked into this core Batrider

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And I feel like whatever he goes, he's gonna have a rough time. If he goes mid against Puck again, Puck one of the better matchups on the lane

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The Bat does have the silencer, but that's more like an in-game solution, right?

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The lane is still the same. Puck will thrive, pretty much have a free lane

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And if the Bat goes on the off lane, then he's against the Faces Void

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And a Venom answer and I feel like if Firefly is down or like one mistake you step a little bit too far

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He's gonna instantly get punished and the supports he has is not gonna help him at all

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I I'm very worried for this battery pick

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I've really worried that Falcons runs out of time and they just pick the bristle back like that's that's my big concern

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I

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Aurora that's not that I'm not a hero is there right now except bristle back there's one down that's all it don't break

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Yeah, don is better. I feel like they're gonna go to the last nice plan or like yesterday's plan

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I just picked the dawn right it's kind of obvious like coming obviously a problem. Oh

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Well, that's new. Okay, then I

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modax

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Wow, I don't know if I've seen this before well, I wonder what level

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This season it does not sound like an I'm not here. I mean

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It does farm a lot. Yes, they can make a lot of stacks for him and farm and he can be this tanky guy who farms

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But the kill potential is pretty low for heroes like he generally likes play this doom right get really get fat

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And this solo kill the supports some random course

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Axe doesn't really do that too much

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But overall a great pick against the puck and the void. Yeah a good solution for these two cores that are gonna be super annoying

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Super mobile and again. Yeah, hypothetically you can

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set up for your team, you know, kill the, kill the course, like you mentioned,

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hypothetically against a Void and lane, you've got really good damage over time,

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so the lane should be, the lane can be good, it can be a bit rough because

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Venomancer, plus anything, is like a really strong lane. That's a volatile lane,

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that's what I would say, like Venom can get caught out of position and die and

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then Void can get punished because it is hoodwink axe, but the flipside is true

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where if you get caught out against a Venno, it plus the time-division.

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You land a Kale on an Axe and lane, it feels so bad.

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It's so bad, and it depends on who has the items.

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If Axe is too bracer early because he gets a kill at the runes,

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that matters. If Faceless Void gets an early Wand, plus a Rapeban,

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because he gets kills at the runes, then they're going to win that lane.

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Like, it's a super volatile lane. Kill heavy.

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Alright, so as a veteran panelist myself,

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I would like to mention that Aurora has, again, stomped the last five games they play against Falcons.

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Falcons line up right now. It's not looking good. I feel like the lanes are going to be like mediocre.

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Maybe the kids will thrive, but the other two lanes, they're in danger.

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And on top of that, Aurora has the late game, puck and void.

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avoid. My worry is Makoto's puck is insane. Maybe only Nisha might play it better. I don't

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know. And they chose to ban out the QWAP. I think his puck is way nastier.

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Yeah, very nice. Yeah, Falken's in trouble. Let's see if they can do some Falken things

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and have a chance.

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They could.

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They could.

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to go to a game three.

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It's always been very entertaining to watch.

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I know that people say, oh, the game goes late,

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it's boring, they're just farming,

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but Falcons have a different way of farming.

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They're farming while putting them under pressure.

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They're always getting random kills.

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You can't call them a boring.

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You can't call them a boring after the last night.

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Not after the last night.

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Yeah, they've covered that allegation.

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Since Amar said, I'm back, they've been fun.

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Well, you know who else is back, Andrew?

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Sir Action Slacks, of course, on the sidelines.

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That's right, my friends.

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We are here with KP.

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Welcome back KP. Thank you. Thank you. You have given me absolutely nothing since the beginning of this tournament

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And now this is the most important

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Time for you to not give me anything anything you reveal here goes straight to that boom on the grand finals

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However, in a completely unrelated note, I did bring something with you now

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I brought this with you not to talk about Dota, but if you saw this

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What hero does this look like to you if it was a Dota hero?

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Oh, that looks like a

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A tower a tower no no no there's a dota hero. What dota hero is this?

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SF

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SF interesting that you mentioned SF

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I wonder why that hero is on your mind right now

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Maybe you guys were thinking that you could have used a better carry than faceless void in this game

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So think a little bit more powerful. Tell me about that faceless void

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No

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No, go ahead. All right, let's talk a little bit about falcons draft then we did see the axe come out from atf

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You guys obviously very much fear this ATF guy a lot of your bands if not all your bands were focused around that

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Were you expecting this axe to come out because this came out completely by the wait side for a lot of the viewers and the panel?

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Honestly, not really

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He hasn't been playing it more like expecting some just casual BB, you know and the Lord maybe

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Do you think it could be a problem? I mean there's nothing you can change now. We're in the game

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You know it will probably never see axe again. Is it a good hero against what you have?

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I would say no, I think it's like decent as void, but we have like Venom which is annoying for him

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You know a lot of can save

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It's gonna be fine. Now if this was a structure on the Dota 2 map, what would you say this looks like that looks like?

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The throne that looks like the throne

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So are you guys doing like a push strategy you think like you're really looking to get to that throne?

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Use Makoto's puck to the best of its ability, you know get to get on top of these guys and push

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Yeah, we're definitely going to be playing fast with faces when longer

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Don't make fun of it. That's the secret if I say something super stupid, then you'll actually correct me. That's very very powerful. Okay

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Are we gonna go to a game three in your opinion? Could it happen? What's our percentage chance?

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Either we win or we don't so it's 50. Yeah, I fucking piss me off. All right 50 50 50

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Thank you so much my friends. Let's get into the action and see if this one is a 50 50

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Thank you very much Slacks and right now Team Falcons, they have their backs against the

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wall and they're relying right now on the X. Lizard, Amaris played 1200 games of Dota.

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This is a 1200 game, only 6 of them have been X, only 2 of them have been wins. Talk to

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me about this hero, it's a big surprise. Will he sick? Damn, okay. I mean it's a pretty

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cool response to the faces for it, right? Like you get some catchers, the puck as well,

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control is nice. Call giving it away to Rubik can be sometimes a problem but nothing too crazy.

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Overall, let's see. Like it is a hero that farms quite a lot as well. You need a bladenail,

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you need your blink as well before you're online. You don't really have the option for going for

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any different builds I believe any longer. Like this used to be one of those heroes that you could

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even play around battle hunger but ever since the last nurse of course it's not as potent.

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Luckily for them and something that KP did by the way

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Revealed to us by making fun of slacks. He did say that. What are you talking about? Of course?

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We're going late. We're playing Largo and face this way. So falcons should have time to get the items on the axe

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Of course, they do have a case as well on the side of Falcons this year

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Oh, yes panel was talking about a faceless wedding puck in the late game

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But we've also seen this can be an absolute monster the later the game scales

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He's a monster in the lane as well. I feel like this hero is just a monster 24-7 at every single point in the game

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The only way you kill him if you silence him or control him for the long time so he can't use raptor dance

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Luckily if they do have would be gonna die. He didn't TP home

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Okari will be able to take him out of the damage

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So now he has to do the work of shame a mall spent quite a while by his lonesome in the lane X

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Could have just tp'd fountain

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Excited not to...

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But yeah, let's see, let's see. Axe probably doesn't want to be left alone versus a faceless Void and Veno.

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So gotta get there real quick on the hood wing.

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He was doing a great job in the CS department. He actually might be able to kill the faceless Void or more!

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Okay, he wants to be alone. Okay! He does have a one-man army by the way, so he actually can be left alone.

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Oh, that's gonna be a great way for him to start the game, especially off the game one.

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He was pretty much prevented from playing Dota in the leading phase, but this acceleration

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will help a lot.

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He's not a fun game for Rubik, by the way, you're playing into a couple of very oppressive

02:20:39.900 --> 02:20:44.160
heroes when it comes to spells that you can steal.

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really is there like a lasso maybe a bushback what more can you hope for

02:20:50.100 --> 02:20:56.420
right like nothing feels super impactful grappling claw he's gonna grab back

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snaking after he respawns with the help of WS they might be able to kill off

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snaking here but Skeeter applying the slows on top of the Largo eventually

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though he should be able to kill it up the lick will be there onto snaking he'll

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pop the fairy fire but eventually will die nonetheless yeah Largo above of

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Of course, a pretty big boy in the laning stage, she's sitting with an 82 damage right now,

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Kaori.

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That we have a buttpat, man.

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Killing off Kaori, and this is going to be even more gold towards Amar.

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Like the path for him to get this blade mailman, does he already have it, is it flying out

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right now?

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It has opened up, I don't know, Bracer maybe, Faceboots.

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But that's always item Q change and I was very concerned.

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He's got chain mail flying out.

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The double-racer chainmail, Facebook's into Blademail and Blink is usually the build that we see.

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How's our mid lane going? Mal'Rean on his badrider, we saw him have an excellent game on the zero from the mid lane yesterday.

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But, Nicoto, every game he plays Puck, it's just something else, man.

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There's a couple of heroes made that you can play against the Mal'Rean Bat. Mal'Rean Bat, of course, grandmaster tier, very strong with him.

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with him, but QWOP, Storm, Puck, these heroes don't get absolutely bullied by the bats,

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as most other midlaners do, so the Kodo should be fairly comfortable, I would say, on the

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mid lane.

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I like this adaptation that we see Nightfall doing.

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Yesterday he went for the battle theory on the faceless void, didn't really work out,

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but now he's going back for the build he had early on in the group stages with the helm.

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He lost with this build though, right?

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time he lost, I think one time he won. Helm of Dominator is pretty good still on

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Faceless Void, he's the only one that does this, Paul. Paul, Khamamar able to ensure

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that Calry is there. Knightfall will try to evade the axe jumping in onto Crit, but

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doesn't really have the damage, doesn't even have a point into the time lock so no

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no easy way to kill off Crit. Yeah, your play overall Faceless Void is being played

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a little bit differently right now as you're going for the shard a bit earlier

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it gives you some attack speed in the chrono, you're going for the level 20

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of course talent with a hundred attacks beef as well.

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Lachunek thrown, time dilation on Omar, they bringing in a rotation, they want to ensure

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that they get the kill onto this axe, this TP is taking forever and he's gonna end up

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getting denied on Omar, nicely done by Crit.

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And Nightfall was too concerned about getting cold, he wanted to get rid of the battle hunger

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as well so he didn't really time walk on top of the axe to get the right click in.

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This is kind of costly because, like you said, Rubik also TP'd and it's just a benign on X.

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Rather unfortunate, but we'll at least buy some time for Nightfall to farm before this Axe returns to the lane.

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Are we gonna see the exact same build on WS as we did in Game 1?

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I think so.

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because he has a puck mid maybe he can be the one that buys grieves by the way

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or some sort of a dispel instead earlier on but this hero just needs kaya like if

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you don't have kaya the game feels very difficult to play nice little sentry by

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the way to scout out the Invis move from the bat

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the problem that Largo has got like in the current patch that he didn't have in

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the old one. He actually had it in the old one as well. It's mana issues, right? One

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of the reasons why you go for Kaasanj. It was nerfed when it comes to mana region, but

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it's still very good. And you need like these couple of items, you can abuse, like Kaasanj,

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Sol Ring, just so you can spam your Rulety all the time.

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I feel like he'll snag in here, they had a storm on top of it, Telekinisa's drags them

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back. Kaori's ulti made a rotation. I was able to find the two hero Bushwag as Crit's

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TP here for the counterplay and it ends up killing Mira but now Skeeter is the one that's

02:24:51.740 --> 02:24:56.220
in danger losing so much of his life taking out lower and lower to Kaori with the catch

02:24:56.220 --> 02:25:00.380
you like they bring him back and find the kill but now Reen trying to come in and punish

02:25:00.380 --> 02:25:06.900
onto WS WS looking for the self deny you will find it brings himself down Kaori will he

02:25:06.900 --> 02:25:11.420
be able to escape he doesn't need to because Megodo is here to back him up just in case

02:25:11.420 --> 02:25:12.420
they need to reengage.

02:25:12.420 --> 02:25:14.220
These heroes actually have to be careful now.

02:25:14.220 --> 02:25:19.020
Salliser is trying to control the minute 8 rune, but Puck is nearby and so is Robick.

02:25:19.020 --> 02:25:20.520
Very dangerous for Snae.

02:25:22.920 --> 02:25:23.720
Should be fine.

02:25:27.120 --> 02:25:28.520
8 minute rune will go Makoto.

02:25:28.520 --> 02:25:29.420
It's a regen.

02:25:29.420 --> 02:25:31.020
They'll pop it immediately.

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Or bottle it immediately. Pop the smoke head towards bottom.

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Amar...

02:25:35.020 --> 02:25:38.820
This is gonna be a great time to connect. Amar is chasing down Nightfall, but little does he know.

02:25:38.820 --> 02:25:42.800
We've bitten off more than he can chew, perhaps. As a kill, a kinesis will push him back.

02:25:42.800 --> 02:25:47.760
Lakoto has access to the Dream Quail, throws it out, even WS, making an appearance down

02:25:47.760 --> 02:25:51.760
bottom. I can kill Amar and then they tip him for good measure.

02:25:51.760 --> 02:25:57.000
It looked like a good chase for Amar, right? But they just converted with way too many heroes.

02:25:57.000 --> 02:26:01.100
Maybe he wasn't paying attention on where the rune spawned as well.

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Snaking obviously did scout the top rune, was not there, so bot rune was taken by Pak.

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could have expected a buck rotation at least.

02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:15.440
They killed a courier. We didn't get a big courier kill in the previous game but

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now that old meta is back, Skeeda will lose his ring of health, slowing down the

02:26:19.440 --> 02:26:23.440
progress to his mage slayer.

02:26:24.440 --> 02:26:29.440
They think it's the mage slayer for sure. Like he could go for battle fury perhaps as

02:26:29.440 --> 02:26:36.920
as well if he wants to be a little bit more farm oriented I suppose.

02:26:36.920 --> 02:26:40.520
Surely into a park of Veno monster and a park of Veno.

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It's good, it's good.

02:26:41.520 --> 02:26:43.040
It all depends on how you want to play the game, right?

02:26:43.040 --> 02:26:47.520
Like if you're itemizing for a bit later on in the game, if you want to be the ultimate

02:26:47.520 --> 02:26:48.520
carry.

02:26:48.520 --> 02:26:51.040
But I guess like you said, bot lane crit.

02:26:51.040 --> 02:26:52.800
He should die here.

02:26:52.800 --> 02:26:56.520
Gonna lead them on a mere little chase, but they'll have access to the paintballs in two

02:26:56.520 --> 02:26:58.640
seconds, catch a lick in one.

02:26:58.640 --> 02:27:02.920
kill for them? I'm really interested, I want to see, he didn't queue it up just yet, don't

02:27:02.920 --> 02:27:07.440
play, nice fall. You can jump upon here, can they get called, can they bring him down before

02:27:07.440 --> 02:27:13.080
the time warp? Yes. It's a very low HP hero, so if you're showing the lane, you can fall

02:27:13.080 --> 02:27:19.800
very quickly. Nicely done by Amar, the tip now goes, the unironical one goes towards

02:27:19.800 --> 02:27:26.920
the axe, but Skitter actually set that up, like with the initial silence. Yeah, very

02:27:26.920 --> 02:27:28.920
that the hero has a silence.

02:27:28.920 --> 02:27:30.920
And the stun, and the crit.

02:27:30.920 --> 02:27:34.920
And the turn prevention so you can't rotate the hero.

02:27:34.920 --> 02:27:35.920
And the dis-ball.

02:27:35.920 --> 02:27:36.920
And the dis-ball.

02:27:36.920 --> 02:27:40.920
And you can actually be scouted even if you're in the fog behind the tree.

02:27:40.920 --> 02:27:41.920
Antic damage.

02:27:41.920 --> 02:27:42.920
Antic damage.

02:27:42.920 --> 02:27:43.920
Massive tick damage.

02:27:43.920 --> 02:27:44.920
And burst damage.

02:27:44.920 --> 02:27:45.920
And burst damage.

02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:47.920
And he can grappling hook on to...

02:27:47.920 --> 02:27:49.920
He has mobility basically built in.

02:27:49.920 --> 02:27:51.920
And he's invisible of course.

02:27:51.920 --> 02:27:53.920
Self healing by the way.

02:27:56.920 --> 02:28:04.360
He can move over terrain. Anything else? Did we forget something?

02:28:04.360 --> 02:28:05.840
Harry, can block damage?

02:28:05.840 --> 02:28:08.280
Can block and stun you while blocking?

02:28:08.280 --> 02:28:11.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:11.200 --> 02:28:14.520
Balance here.

02:28:14.520 --> 02:28:17.680
Hax, making the progress, what's having played now?

02:28:17.680 --> 02:28:19.840
Skritt gonna stack up some agents for him?

02:28:19.840 --> 02:28:24.640
He will be getting the Mateslayer, by the way. You were correct. I was wrong about it.

02:28:24.640 --> 02:28:29.700
one thing to be said about Midslayer, you play the game more actively and you are playing

02:28:29.700 --> 02:28:34.780
into a puck face to face, so you probably want to be active, you probably want to be

02:28:34.780 --> 02:28:35.780
pressuring the map.

02:28:35.780 --> 02:28:39.220
Another pressure might be applied bottom by the puck.

02:28:39.220 --> 02:28:44.420
Oh, very nice, Bushrat from Kritt, into the sharpshooter, Lasso from Malrin, just reveals

02:28:44.420 --> 02:28:45.860
his blink dagger.

02:28:45.860 --> 02:28:47.860
That is a beautiful play from Kritt, Mira.

02:28:47.860 --> 02:28:52.220
That's still a sharpshooter, but unfortunately he will not be allowed to keep it as Falcons

02:28:52.220 --> 02:28:55.180
Surround him with 3, they're able to bring him down.

02:28:55.180 --> 02:28:55.980
Global as well?

02:28:55.980 --> 02:28:58.340
It's not the global silence, because they want to run down this logo.

02:28:58.340 --> 02:29:00.660
Trying to TP out will not be able to do so.

02:29:00.660 --> 02:29:02.500
Quick, yet again with the bushwack.

02:29:03.140 --> 02:29:04.940
Styling on this woodwind right now.

02:29:04.940 --> 02:29:06.460
They're just collapsing on them.

02:29:06.460 --> 02:29:08.940
The whole map is already controlled.

02:29:09.420 --> 02:29:12.540
Phantom Mancer isn't really contributing a whole lot at the moment,

02:29:12.540 --> 02:29:14.660
because this hero is played a bit differently.

02:29:14.660 --> 02:29:17.580
Like you want to play around your plateboards, you want to set things up.

02:29:18.460 --> 02:29:19.460
Maybe on the path?

02:29:19.460 --> 02:29:20.460
They got Kylerick.

02:29:20.780 --> 02:29:21.660
He's dead for sure.

02:29:21.660 --> 02:29:25.660
Dreamcrawl will be thrown out onto Cribs, so Makoto will at least avenge his fallen comrade.

02:29:26.460 --> 02:29:31.960
Malrindo will steal the illusion when in front of him, say, well, you're busy killing my support, I'll at least get the regen back.

02:29:39.660 --> 02:29:42.960
Skitter and the gang should be able to take the TL on tower in the spot of lane.

02:29:43.760 --> 02:29:45.560
Let's keep playing normally, guys, for recover.

02:29:46.960 --> 02:29:47.760
He will recover.

02:29:47.760 --> 02:29:51.920
You heard this from Nightfall, he will be recovering, he does have the helm of Dom.

02:29:52.760 --> 02:29:59.060
He's sitting on as much farm as his position 5 right now, so there's a lot to recover.

02:29:59.760 --> 02:30:00.760
Anyway, from so far.

02:30:02.260 --> 02:30:06.760
I don't like KAPO telling us, the expectation is to go a little bit later in this game, so...

02:30:06.760 --> 02:30:07.760
We've got time.

02:30:07.760 --> 02:30:10.260
Yeah, we have to have a late game here.

02:30:10.260 --> 02:30:13.260
If they want to recover on the face of Svoid, this is...

02:30:13.260 --> 02:30:17.260
We're in for like 30 minutes more, I think.

02:30:17.260 --> 02:30:24.840
The Helm of Dominator into power threads most likely Mjolnir after some sort of a damage boost into the chronosphere is always good

02:30:25.660 --> 02:30:30.760
One concern I do have about this Falcon's draft is that if they're not finding a lot of kills through these small skirmishes

02:30:30.760 --> 02:30:36.460
They like ability to just push the bounce hours is fairly limited. We'll be able to find Kyory with the Bat Rider

02:30:37.220 --> 02:30:39.980
You'll die crit there of course with the Sharpshooter

02:30:39.980 --> 02:30:51.620
Yeah, your objective taking overall is not super massive until you get the Dezo and Kaz,

02:30:51.620 --> 02:30:53.580
but that's what he's queuing up.

02:30:53.580 --> 02:30:58.920
When it comes to the other heroes, they're kind of okay, I guess, but nothing crazy.

02:30:58.920 --> 02:31:05.340
You have an eventual shard and Batrider that you can purchase as well, but that needs to

02:31:05.340 --> 02:31:06.340
be said.

02:31:06.340 --> 02:31:08.340
to take him, not massive.

02:31:08.340 --> 02:31:10.340
Global silence.

02:31:10.340 --> 02:31:11.340
Who's it gonna save?

02:31:11.340 --> 02:31:14.900
Well, it's used before the gank arrives to Amar, so he's still gonna end up in a very

02:31:14.900 --> 02:31:15.900
awkward position.

02:31:15.900 --> 02:31:19.580
The catchy lick didn't manage to break the tether, but he still ends up dead.

02:31:19.580 --> 02:31:20.580
It was used for him, right?

02:31:20.580 --> 02:31:21.940
Like, they did scout it out.

02:31:21.940 --> 02:31:27.340
They had a ward, so they saw them going on top of Jax, but I feel like sneaking was a

02:31:27.340 --> 02:31:28.340
little bit too quick.

02:31:28.340 --> 02:31:30.900
Even Amar was like, wait, what's going on?

02:31:30.900 --> 02:31:38.300
She actually moved into them after the combo of silence.

02:31:38.300 --> 02:31:42.340
Despite the fact that this Faceless Void is doing very poorly, had a tough time, Puck

02:31:42.340 --> 02:31:45.420
is doing very well for Makoto, and he's going to go straight into the Yule Scepter after

02:31:45.420 --> 02:31:48.860
getting this Witchblade, making sure he has that Dispel against the Global.

02:31:48.860 --> 02:31:51.020
It's a really good item this game.

02:31:51.020 --> 02:31:57.380
Yule Scepter not only for the Dispel, before DKB is up on Axe, you can always Yule Sim,

02:31:57.380 --> 02:31:59.380
peeking off.

02:31:59.380 --> 02:32:01.380
Chop chop!

02:32:01.380 --> 02:32:03.380
Two armor harvested now for the culling blade.

02:32:04.380 --> 02:32:06.380
Has the full blade mail available.

02:32:06.380 --> 02:32:08.380
I'm sure Kaori is not happy to see the blade mail available.

02:32:08.380 --> 02:32:12.380
Mid lane, Skeeter and Malreen will go on top of WS.

02:32:12.380 --> 02:32:15.380
Should be a straightforward kill here as he's very far from his team.

02:32:15.380 --> 02:32:18.380
They don't connect with the bushwhack in the river,

02:32:18.380 --> 02:32:20.380
so Kaori is able to get the gale out onto Malreen

02:32:20.380 --> 02:32:21.380
and spot them from moving.

02:32:21.380 --> 02:32:23.380
Faceless wait is here, has chrono,

02:32:23.380 --> 02:32:25.380
but just wants to take the tower and get up.

02:32:27.380 --> 02:32:29.380
Pogoro, oh, he'll jump forward!

02:32:29.380 --> 02:32:33.380
The creep of Nightfall gave the vision necessary to hunt down the hoodwink.

02:32:33.380 --> 02:32:38.380
Just the potential chronosphere is more or less zoning them away.

02:32:38.380 --> 02:32:45.380
They also have Dreamcull, of course, and a nice good old Darkstroll Summoner helping out with the tower push.

02:32:45.380 --> 02:32:51.380
So even though Nightfall isn't really farming all too well, like, he's doing something on the map.

02:32:51.380 --> 02:32:53.380
He's contributing. It's honest work.

02:32:53.380 --> 02:33:01.000
honest work you jump in you use your time dilation something that's one thing

02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:05.100
that we should see Mal-Reed having to buy a pkp for rights dealing with that

02:33:05.100 --> 02:33:11.020
time dilation bottom nice naking is having a rough one how many deaths did he

02:33:11.020 --> 02:33:15.380
have in that first game let me go check 15 deaths yeah he had a lot

02:33:15.380 --> 02:33:20.020
gotta say though the last game was much much harder for the silencer than this

02:33:20.020 --> 02:33:23.300
one I feel like in this kind of a game he doesn't necessarily have to die to

02:33:23.300 --> 02:33:24.420
many times in climate.

02:33:24.420 --> 02:33:28.060
We're going to Malrin, Esmeralda, but Skida is here.

02:33:28.060 --> 02:33:30.020
Global Silence will be utilized by Mira.

02:33:30.020 --> 02:33:32.820
How the hell did he steal Global Silence?

02:33:32.820 --> 02:33:34.700
Wait, what?

02:33:34.700 --> 02:33:37.700
I didn't see that.

02:33:37.700 --> 02:33:44.060
OK, this is like one thing that you should never give away.

02:33:44.060 --> 02:33:46.700
I can understand any spell being stolen.

02:33:46.700 --> 02:33:48.940
Oh, compadre, you know whatever.

02:33:48.940 --> 02:33:52.940
The global silence is kinda like pro, what the hell?

02:33:52.940 --> 02:33:56.940
You know, it happens.

02:33:56.940 --> 02:33:59.940
Oh, Maureen's gonna try to get that spell away from him.

02:33:59.940 --> 02:34:01.940
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Maureen is like,

02:34:01.940 --> 02:34:04.940
Guys, we need to kill this guy immediately. We cannot let him keep the spell.

02:34:04.940 --> 02:34:07.940
Of course, it's a longer global as well.

02:34:07.940 --> 02:34:14.940
It lasts longer. It's like just absolutely illegal to steal the global as a rubik.

02:34:14.940 --> 02:34:21.940
It's actually funny. I mean, Twitch chat rejoice, even the pro players, you know, they make these mistakes.

02:34:22.940 --> 02:34:25.940
You're not that bad. We got it.

02:34:26.940 --> 02:34:30.940
Now Rain will spend some time here taking out some stacks with this amplified damage.

02:34:31.940 --> 02:34:38.940
But 40 seconds away from the blink, or from the blink lasso being up, he's gonna go against you because axes go by blink pretty much after this camp.

02:34:39.940 --> 02:34:41.940
So we can make something happen for the side of Falcons.

02:34:41.940 --> 02:34:52.560
Blink on him, Blink on Bat. Those are bongo boots, right? Yeah. There we go. They're pretty much

02:34:52.560 --> 02:34:57.040
activated. They have everything that they need. Now the question is like what kind of

02:34:57.040 --> 02:35:00.840
a move do they make? Where do they go? They don't necessarily have to wait for too many

02:35:00.840 --> 02:35:07.320
BKBs on their side as well on Falcons. So they can play the map. There is one problem that they

02:35:07.320 --> 02:35:11.480
are facing. Like we have seen a lot of techies in the current patch and what does he do? Like he

02:35:11.480 --> 02:35:15.480
He plants mines everywhere, you can't really make a smoke play.

02:35:15.480 --> 02:35:20.120
Venom does something similar with the serpent wards, with the plague wards actually, sorry.

02:35:20.120 --> 02:35:24.640
Because of the plague wards, you can smoke through them, but it's very difficult to always

02:35:24.640 --> 02:35:26.840
get the right blink off.

02:35:26.840 --> 02:35:30.560
Just the plague wards hitting you once or twice, and suddenly, yeah, you're done.

02:35:30.560 --> 02:35:34.600
You have that poison, you're ticking down, you can't blink.

02:35:34.600 --> 02:35:39.520
Venom wants to smoke up with his crew, gonna lay out some plague wards just to make sure

02:35:39.520 --> 02:35:41.520
they have vision of the silencer.

02:35:41.520 --> 02:35:43.520
Let's see what angle they can find.

02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:45.520
They scan up onto the triangle.

02:35:45.520 --> 02:35:47.520
Nobody's there.

02:35:47.520 --> 02:35:49.520
Amar isn't in front of them, so they could go for the wrap.

02:35:49.520 --> 02:35:51.520
Mal'Reen will be the one to come up right now.

02:35:51.520 --> 02:35:54.520
He blinks forward just to reveal where these heroes are at.

02:35:54.520 --> 02:35:57.520
Breaks the smokes, gets himself back to safety.

02:35:57.520 --> 02:35:59.520
Vulcans allowed to play the map more safely.

02:36:05.520 --> 02:36:08.520
The recovery mode, four faces to it, how are we looking at?

02:36:08.520 --> 02:36:15.320
right now almost 8k network okay he's at least higher network than his position 5 right now by some margin

02:36:16.600 --> 02:36:19.320
you got the maelstrom now so that's gonna help out quite a lot for him

02:36:19.960 --> 02:36:24.120
it buffs up the farming speed for sure like hum of dominator is the first farming item

02:36:24.120 --> 02:36:30.200
now he has the maelstrom as well the late game from aurora does look very scary like this is

02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:34.680
something that we talked about earlier face this void puck you don't want to be playing into a lot

02:36:34.680 --> 02:36:35.680
a lot of chronospheres.

02:36:38.680 --> 02:36:40.680
Is that Falken the setting up to go take the tourney down bottom?

02:36:41.680 --> 02:36:43.680
Is they gonna all head through this twin gate perhaps?

02:36:44.680 --> 02:36:48.680
Do you want Skeeter to wait for BKB before he starts draining these fights, or is the maidslayer Deso enough for now?

02:36:48.680 --> 02:36:50.680
I think maidslayer Deso is enough.

02:36:50.680 --> 02:36:55.680
Like, yeah, sure, BKB is a really good item this game, but you're playing into a chronosphere.

02:36:55.680 --> 02:37:00.680
I think with this kind of a build in particular, when you have maidslayer and Deso,

02:37:00.680 --> 02:37:06.420
So your job is to be a bit more active, like to actually start hitting heroes, getting those

02:37:06.420 --> 02:37:08.220
dazzle charges up.

02:37:08.220 --> 02:37:14.860
I think like the current state of the game with one key lead for Falcons is probably

02:37:14.860 --> 02:37:19.860
considering how the lanes went, is probably a bit better for Aurora, it gives them a bit

02:37:19.860 --> 02:37:22.100
more time to recover.

02:37:22.100 --> 02:37:29.140
I don't want to negate Falcons lately potential as well, but avoid these carry.

02:37:29.140 --> 02:37:35.180
avoid beach carry for me who's gonna get it is it gonna be crit nope it's

02:37:35.180 --> 02:37:41.980
snaking I mean I guess it always feels really bad when you're having a slow game

02:37:41.980 --> 02:37:44.740
on silence and then you get the shot you're like what the hell am I supposed

02:37:44.740 --> 02:37:50.860
to do with this takes the bounty a bit higher on your head to be fair now you

02:37:50.860 --> 02:37:53.820
can much more easily justify the Midas you're like guys I need the attack speed

02:37:53.820 --> 02:37:58.620
to justify getting the the agonim shot in the first place absolutely get the

02:37:58.620 --> 02:38:03.620
get the miters, use the chrono against the faceless wade.

02:38:06.620 --> 02:38:11.620
They are smoking up, they want to utilize the axe as well, pre-vkb.

02:38:12.620 --> 02:38:16.620
I'll follow this alone on the top side of the map so you can't easily get caught out here.

02:38:16.620 --> 02:38:20.620
They have double blink dagger on axe and batrider, they will deploy the first one,

02:38:20.620 --> 02:38:24.620
lasso out, punch through the faceless wade, global silence also expended.

02:38:24.620 --> 02:38:30.620
They really didn't want to risk anything. That face of Swid was very dead, even without the Global.

02:38:30.620 --> 02:38:36.620
But the only possible way for him to survive, of course, is to chrono them, and time walk away.

02:38:36.620 --> 02:38:39.620
So, Global did prevent it, but...

02:38:39.620 --> 02:38:46.620
Yeah, snaking. There's some pent-up rage after these two games.

02:38:46.620 --> 02:38:50.620
Yeah, if he can Global to kill Nightfall, he's gonna do whatever he says.

02:38:50.620 --> 02:38:54.000
do it if you say absolutely especially after that bear and what they did to him

02:38:54.000 --> 02:39:01.900
last game does pick up the agonium scepter the ws and at the same time

02:39:01.900 --> 02:39:05.380
the puck does have blink yule and the witch play so they could decide to make

02:39:05.380 --> 02:39:10.860
a play the plague word scouts art or mar so they know he's in the vicinity how do

02:39:10.860 --> 02:39:17.220
you feel about Aurora's chrono damage though besides the faces for it they

02:39:17.220 --> 02:39:20.300
pretty much have what noxious plague if it connects on multiple heroes that's

02:39:20.300 --> 02:39:26.780
pretty much it. That's what it is. I mean it's not enough is basically where I'm going right.

02:39:26.780 --> 02:39:32.860
Like a puck can dish out some damage if he goes for the right click items as well which most pucks

02:39:32.860 --> 02:39:39.660
do go for right now. Snape. He's just gonna die break the smoke but make sure that Skeeter is not

02:39:39.660 --> 02:39:45.340
the one that gets brought down on the top side. They actually scanned that out on Falcons. They

02:39:45.340 --> 02:39:48.620
knew that they were coming but I think when the scan hit it was around the Roshan pit so maybe

02:39:48.620 --> 02:39:50.620
Maybe they thought they were attempting some sneaky roche.

02:39:51.620 --> 02:39:53.620
It's good positioning still from the silencer.

02:39:53.620 --> 02:39:58.620
If you are going to die, this is the kind of a death that you want to have on your position 5.

02:39:58.620 --> 02:40:03.620
You're breaking a smoke, you're breaking the entrance into your own jungle as well.

02:40:03.620 --> 02:40:08.620
And at the same time, he was still kind of farming because he's got the short, so he's just hitting creeps anyway.

02:40:10.620 --> 02:40:12.620
It's not really a big deal for Snape.

02:40:14.620 --> 02:40:16.620
We'll give Nightfall a bit of confidence to farm here.

02:40:16.620 --> 02:40:22.620
They left behind some vision as well from Kyrie, making sure that Nightfall knows when Ganks are coming.

02:40:26.620 --> 02:40:33.620
The game has slowed down someone. They are finishing off BKB on the Kess, so Skeda really is just going to park himself in the jungle.

02:40:33.620 --> 02:40:42.620
Just all BKBs, right? BKB Axe, BKB Kess, BKB Pat, even though you're playing into a Chronosphere, you're also playing versus Largo Puck and the Venomancer.

02:40:42.620 --> 02:40:46.260
Venom answer like there's still a ton of magic damage from the other side

02:40:46.260 --> 02:40:51.980
So understandable that eventually you want to go for these items. You don't necessarily rush them

02:40:51.980 --> 02:40:55.100
But like a third item, it's good on all three cores

02:40:56.780 --> 02:40:58.780
Also going for the Hage of the mcep dog kaiori

02:40:59.300 --> 02:41:04.280
Maureen doesn't have that bkb just yet. So if you're fairly straightforward kill for Aurora

02:41:05.740 --> 02:41:09.620
Mira doesn't steal a great spell was hoping for firefly, but just gets the kine palm

02:41:09.620 --> 02:41:20.620
One thing that I'm also noticing from Falcons is they're super passive for how they usually play with this kind of a draft, how they played yesterday versus Liquid.

02:41:20.620 --> 02:41:25.620
They still have Global plus Lasso, but they're not really using it.

02:41:25.620 --> 02:41:31.620
And you know, as time passes, they will find ways of dealing with the Global.

02:41:31.620 --> 02:41:36.620
When you get the Manta on the face this way, of course Paco already has Jules, maybe a BKB on Largo,

02:41:36.620 --> 02:41:39.620
your global assault combination will not be as impactful.

02:41:41.620 --> 02:41:44.620
Even as Rubik is going for the Guardian Greens, pretty much already has it.

02:41:45.620 --> 02:41:47.620
It's a very good item on Rubik in general.

02:41:48.620 --> 02:41:52.620
You don't see it like every single game, but versus global, it's always good.

02:41:54.620 --> 02:41:57.620
AxePKB is up. Aurora.

02:41:58.620 --> 02:42:01.620
We'll go through the twin gates, connect back in with that faceless void.

02:42:02.620 --> 02:42:05.620
There's nobody on that side of the map, so maybe they just want to shove in that wave.

02:42:06.620 --> 02:42:11.620
Pressure the tier 2 tower a little bit, force talcum to have to mount some kind of response.

02:42:19.620 --> 02:42:24.620
2k gold lead now, not really much going on in the game if we're being honest.

02:42:24.620 --> 02:42:28.620
13 to 15, some farm wars are happening.

02:42:28.620 --> 02:42:31.620
What is that Facebook game called again? Was it Farmville?

02:42:31.620 --> 02:42:34.620
Farmville. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we're playing now.

02:42:36.620 --> 02:42:46.620
But now Rean does have BKB, so Farmville simulator is finally gonna come to an end, we smoke up, even Skeeter with his own BKB, ready to fight at long last.

02:42:47.620 --> 02:42:57.620
Yeah, it took them a bit, but eventually they are online and ready to strike, they have Global as well, of course on Salliser level 2, will they find anything?

02:42:57.620 --> 02:43:04.620
Because there's a little bit of a problem when it comes to vision, they don't have a lot of it. If they only catch the Ruvik...

02:43:04.620 --> 02:43:10.940
Now they are going to get him, should be a pit kill, gets chopped down up to the shop

02:43:10.940 --> 02:43:12.580
to connect on top of him.

02:43:12.580 --> 02:43:16.220
This is what they see dragon wave, so they can't actually pressure the T1 and take it

02:43:16.220 --> 02:43:17.220
all together.

02:43:17.220 --> 02:43:21.900
25 minutes in though, it's a very late T1 tower on the middle end to take, but they

02:43:21.900 --> 02:43:25.940
didn't really use a lot for Rubik, and that will allow them to go straight into the pit.

02:43:25.940 --> 02:43:31.940
Of course if you're Aurora, I think you're very aware of this, like they know what's

02:43:31.940 --> 02:43:32.940
going on.

02:43:32.940 --> 02:43:37.700
even be contesting it it seems like as they're still buying some items you know

02:43:37.700 --> 02:43:42.300
what this faces void is actually not making any distance when it comes to

02:43:42.300 --> 02:43:46.780
his farm he's not separating himself from the Venom answer and I don't know if

02:43:46.780 --> 02:43:52.500
that is bad for the void or good for the Venom because Venom is farming a ton

02:43:52.500 --> 02:43:57.820
across the map. Kaori is sitting on 10 9k network to this point he's actually

02:43:57.820 --> 02:44:01.300
buying an agonim scepter next. This might be one of those necessary evils right

02:44:01.300 --> 02:44:06.120
because like we were talking about, he's the only one that can realistically put in damage at this stage into the bubble.

02:44:06.120 --> 02:44:06.620
Mm-hmm.

02:44:07.820 --> 02:44:11.060
So maybe that's the trait. He forms like a crazy madman for now,

02:44:11.060 --> 02:44:14.140
and then eventually he can sort of recede on the map, let the way take over.

02:44:14.140 --> 02:44:18.860
Yeah, it's not only the Chrono damage that he will be amping up,

02:44:18.860 --> 02:44:22.980
he will be amping up all damage around him, like the magic damage with the Aghanim Scepter,

02:44:22.980 --> 02:44:25.400
and you are playing with Puck Mid and Largo.

02:44:25.400 --> 02:44:30.780
Largo is going to really enjoy the Aghanims from the Venom.

02:44:30.780 --> 02:44:37.780
You're slowing everyone down, amping up the magic damage, and then Largo is probably going to be dishing out some insane numbers.

02:44:39.780 --> 02:44:44.780
Skeeter with his Aegis, putting some pressure on the tier 2 bottom.

02:44:44.780 --> 02:44:51.780
They have Malorin and Crit in the offing, waiting for somebody to show and defend this, but Aurora, they seem content to let them have it.

02:44:51.780 --> 02:44:56.780
They are not feeling ready to fight. Tuck even coming back for the defensive item of the Aeondisk.

02:44:56.780 --> 02:45:05.660
Just making sure that he doesn't die in a singular lasso or cull, it's still kind of

02:45:05.660 --> 02:45:09.980
difficult to stay alive in this game, there's just so much catch from the side of Falcons

02:45:09.980 --> 02:45:11.180
plus the global.

02:45:11.180 --> 02:45:13.180
They're hunting Plargo.

02:45:13.180 --> 02:45:14.180
Sorry.

02:45:14.180 --> 02:45:18.740
Get that knockback with the flame break, there's a lasso coming out of this Plargo.

02:45:18.740 --> 02:45:22.300
Global silence will be utilized as well, he got clipped with the sharpshooter.

02:45:22.300 --> 02:45:24.900
A hundred gold away from the BKB.

02:45:24.900 --> 02:45:35.920
the frog. He dies in the swamp as well. Unfortunate, but very cool play by Maureen, recognizing

02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:41.620
where he's going to be. The ward was set up a little bit earlier by the silencer, so

02:45:41.620 --> 02:45:47.060
they had good vision, good info, and they're kind of activating their lineup well now.

02:45:47.060 --> 02:45:52.020
They're getting one kill with a call, then one kill with the Global plus lasso.

02:45:52.020 --> 02:45:56.500
Look at top though, they're actually about to take the tier 2 with just nightfall and

02:45:56.500 --> 02:45:58.500
calorie.

02:45:58.500 --> 02:46:03.620
This is multi just with the plague ward and the alpha wolf here.

02:46:03.620 --> 02:46:09.900
Solar crested alpha wolf by the way, went for the solar and the glimmer.

02:46:09.900 --> 02:46:13.940
Every single little bit of item that they can get, they're getting to maximize their

02:46:13.940 --> 02:46:14.940
damage output.

02:46:14.940 --> 02:46:19.060
This solar crest is also really good on the faceless void, most likely will be used on

02:46:19.060 --> 02:46:21.060
him every time Krono is up so...

02:46:23.060 --> 02:46:24.060
Okay.

02:46:25.060 --> 02:46:29.060
That tower kill will actually allow Nightfall to finally create some space between himself and the Venom.

02:46:30.060 --> 02:46:31.060
Almost caught up to the Axe.

02:46:31.060 --> 02:46:38.060
I'm sure they're gonna lose their own tier 2 bottom, but if you're in a game where you're being outpaced and you're trading towers at the same time, you're pretty okay with this.

02:46:40.060 --> 02:46:42.060
Okay, I just only have one question here.

02:46:42.060 --> 02:46:47.060
Falcons obviously are very comfortable with the status of the game.

02:46:47.060 --> 02:46:51.460
They're only 3k ahead but they're controlling the map, they're just farming.

02:46:51.460 --> 02:46:57.060
Is Kaz a stronger late game carry than the faceless void in the current state?

02:46:57.060 --> 02:47:00.060
What do you think?

02:47:00.060 --> 02:47:08.060
It's hard to say, I guess it's one of those where Kaz probably loses the 1v1 thanks to the Krono being a busted spell.

02:47:08.060 --> 02:47:10.060
When Krono is up?

02:47:10.060 --> 02:47:16.060
When Krono is up, but if Krono is down and Kaz is not interacting directly with the faceless void, I do think Kaz is probably better against the whole team.

02:47:16.060 --> 02:47:21.300
against the whole team because the damage just comes so fast.

02:47:21.300 --> 02:47:25.260
Yeah, we haven't really seen way too much Faceless Void, I do think that this hero has

02:47:25.260 --> 02:47:26.260
hidden potential.

02:47:26.260 --> 02:47:30.340
Oh, Max, has a BKB ready to go, but he gets chronoed, he won't be able to do anything

02:47:30.340 --> 02:47:31.340
about this.

02:47:31.340 --> 02:47:34.980
He will probably lose his life, bushwax to try and save him, there's the Nocturse Plague,

02:47:34.980 --> 02:47:38.980
but at the same time the jump in from Mal'Reen fires the Faceless Void, they hit him with

02:47:38.980 --> 02:47:40.980
the lasso, they bring him down.

02:47:40.980 --> 02:47:45.340
Nocturse Plague though is still bouncing around, dreamcwail, throw it out onto Mal'Reen's

02:47:45.340 --> 02:47:49.420
Batrider he is gonna die Skeeter going back into the frame looking towards the supports

02:47:49.420 --> 02:47:54.700
They're not gonna be giving themselves up as easy targets as everybody around him has died already

02:47:55.700 --> 02:47:59.500
EKB TP out he's forced to pull a nightfall because nightfall is there

02:47:59.500 --> 02:48:02.080
There is no time lock to cancel out the TP

02:48:02.380 --> 02:48:09.100
Yeah, he managed to get away, but that's four heroes total right like three plus ages a very good teamfight for Aurora

02:48:09.100 --> 02:48:11.660
Even though they did lose the faces for it

02:48:11.660 --> 02:48:17.340
And I guess at this point like I've been harping quite a lot about the faces with but it's not a one-man show

02:48:18.500 --> 02:48:23.940
We mentioned the damage output that Largo can have with the Venomancer and there it is

02:48:24.220 --> 02:48:27.560
Aghanim's was available on the Venom plus the song

02:48:28.260 --> 02:48:34.420
Everything was just so perfect from Aurora besides the fact that's why it doesn't have a BKB once he gets the BKB

02:48:34.420 --> 02:48:36.220
I don't think he dies either

02:48:36.220 --> 02:48:39.060
They're basically countering the Chronosphere with a pushback

02:48:39.060 --> 02:48:45.060
You can see right here, he goes on Axe, but he needs to move back immediately when Crit shows up, you see?

02:48:45.060 --> 02:48:52.060
Just to dodge the bush back, but it buys enough time for Axe to BKB and actually catch the Void after with a call.

02:48:53.060 --> 02:49:01.060
That noxious play, just spreading around. BKBs don't lose forever, as soon as they go down, heroes are in trouble.

02:49:01.060 --> 02:49:08.060
Skeeter does now have to butterfly at the very least, but that is a nice proof of concept from Aurora, that look, we've been behind at this point.

02:49:08.060 --> 02:49:12.060
But if we decide to take a fight, we can actually kill you if we find the initiation.

02:49:12.060 --> 02:49:17.060
If they find the initiation, and if they find the initiation, they have to get the kills really quickly.

02:49:17.060 --> 02:49:18.060
They have Global.

02:49:18.060 --> 02:49:21.060
You have Global, they initiate this time around onto the logo.

02:49:21.060 --> 02:49:22.060
He'll get hexed up by Crick.

02:49:22.060 --> 02:49:25.060
The way he finished off the side for Vice on hoodwink.

02:49:25.060 --> 02:49:27.060
He'll find the kill with the Sharpshooter.

02:49:27.060 --> 02:49:28.060
Nice revenge from Falcons.

02:49:28.060 --> 02:49:30.060
Yeah, the good old greedy.

02:49:31.060 --> 02:49:32.060
Coming into play again.

02:49:32.060 --> 02:49:33.060
Quit.

02:49:33.060 --> 02:49:36.060
Okay, they will be at Global Silent to try and protect him.

02:49:36.060 --> 02:49:38.060
Still dream-coiled

02:49:38.200 --> 02:49:42.260
Noxious plague was thrown on top of him, but you'll be fine in the end able to retreat

02:49:43.620 --> 02:49:50.780
Unfortunately though the difference in cooldowns between global silence and noxious plague night and day only 40 seconds to go before they can try that again on Aurora

02:49:53.220 --> 02:49:57.080
The acceptor onto axe see does that became me so he should be fine

02:49:57.660 --> 02:50:00.740
Activates the blade mail or actually gets the call out onto him

02:50:00.740 --> 02:50:06.020
But there's gonna be a cronosphere nightfall right behind him trying to get these bashes in is he going to death

02:50:06.060 --> 02:50:10.140
here he gets hit with the venomous scale finally does take out to the damage from

02:50:10.140 --> 02:50:13.780
kauri kauri we'll get punished for this potentially though

02:50:13.780 --> 02:50:17.600
chop shooters there Mira with the agonim shot saves the life of the Venom

02:50:17.600 --> 02:50:22.980
monster but has to give up his own in the trade when you look at the network

02:50:22.980 --> 02:50:26.340
difference between the Venom and Rubik that's probably a very good play right

02:50:26.340 --> 02:50:29.540
like you save the target that is way more valuable than the rubik at this point

02:50:29.540 --> 02:50:37.600
and a man sir sitting on 13k rubik on 8.5k net worth once again you could see

02:50:37.600 --> 02:50:41.760
that they are lacking a bit of damage in the chronosphere but they kind of have

02:50:41.760 --> 02:50:45.720
enough to at least take down the axe and that's more or less what faceless

02:50:45.720 --> 02:50:51.240
wood in this game needs to do these other heroes they're the problem for the

02:50:51.240 --> 02:50:55.160
other four the axe if he doesn't die in the chrono I feel like he brings just

02:50:55.160 --> 02:50:59.160
way too many issues with the constant calls through the fight.

02:50:59.160 --> 02:51:04.680
Batrider has one last, so X can have multiple berserker calls, right, like one, two, three

02:51:04.680 --> 02:51:05.680
in a singular fight.

02:51:05.680 --> 02:51:10.600
Should we see somebody build a Wind Waker on Falcons to deal with this corner?

02:51:10.600 --> 02:51:11.800
It's always an option.

02:51:11.800 --> 02:51:15.120
It's definitely a good option, but there aren't going for it.

02:51:15.120 --> 02:51:20.680
Like, Hoodwing opted to go for a bit more of an active build with the sight of Weiss.

02:51:20.680 --> 02:51:25.120
And of course, if you're a silencer, I mean, Wind Waker on Silencer isn't really that great.

02:51:25.120 --> 02:51:29.120
Because if you're showing yourself, if you're next to the chrono, you're probably dying way too quickly.

02:51:29.120 --> 02:51:32.120
He's going for a refresher instead.

02:51:32.120 --> 02:51:35.120
Oh, click change is mine, you went for the blink dagger instead.

02:51:35.120 --> 02:51:36.120
Okay.

02:51:36.120 --> 02:51:39.120
We had queued up initially the hunter's boomerang, but...

02:51:39.120 --> 02:51:43.120
Blink, I guess he wants to be able to close the gap onto that chrono more easily.

02:51:43.120 --> 02:51:51.120
Blink hacks, right? Like the bush rack, but also blink hacks that he's got. It's a very good build for a hoodwink.

02:51:51.120 --> 02:51:58.740
34 minutes in, barely any difference in the cold.

02:51:58.740 --> 02:52:00.780
This is what we want from a lower bracket final, you know.

02:52:00.780 --> 02:52:03.180
No stomps in one direction or another.

02:52:03.180 --> 02:52:06.940
The game that actually reaches the mid game in somewhat of an even stead.

02:52:06.940 --> 02:52:08.940
For the two of us, these are rookie numbers.

02:52:08.940 --> 02:52:12.300
We're looking at 70 plus minute games.

02:52:12.300 --> 02:52:14.460
We've gotten a multitude of those.

02:52:14.460 --> 02:52:16.940
About to have a big fight right now.

02:52:16.940 --> 02:52:17.940
Everybody smoked up.

02:52:17.940 --> 02:52:20.060
Roshan, up in 100 seconds.

02:52:20.060 --> 02:52:24.460
Kauri is gonna have his smoke broken, he'll show, but the big jump comes from Makoto on the back lines.

02:52:24.460 --> 02:52:28.660
Getting on the silence, so Dreamquail's out, he's silenced on snaking, fighting, he does get the global out,

02:52:28.660 --> 02:52:32.860
and there's a call on Makoto, the A on this will protect him however, on the other side.

02:52:32.860 --> 02:52:38.660
Skeeter was able to bring down Mira, but his BKB is about to expire, so it's a dangerous place to be snaking.

02:52:38.660 --> 02:52:40.660
Does eventually die.

02:52:40.660 --> 02:52:46.260
Makoto, who is the else he's gonna be able to bring down, but Dreamquail is down, so no more lockdown available from the puck.

02:52:46.260 --> 02:52:50.460
By the way, there was a double lasso as well, but they weren't really able to convert to that.

02:52:50.460 --> 02:52:54.660
Malrin has a full-aggoninceptor that we didn't... I think we didn't mention,

02:52:54.660 --> 02:52:59.860
that he jumped the backlines, caught two heroes, and literally nothing happened off of it.

02:53:00.860 --> 02:53:06.860
They're finding it a little bit difficult to find all the right ways into the fight because of two things.

02:53:06.860 --> 02:53:08.960
Chronosphere, of course, and the Dreamclaw.

02:53:08.960 --> 02:53:14.860
It's hard to engage on a singular target if you know that the chrono can follow through.

02:53:16.260 --> 02:53:21.260
They didn't have to use the chrono there, they did pop his VKB from 9-4.

02:53:21.260 --> 02:53:23.260
Nobody...

02:53:23.260 --> 02:53:25.260
Guys, we can fight, pack of chrono still.

02:53:27.260 --> 02:53:29.260
That's true, he still has chrono.

02:53:29.260 --> 02:53:31.260
He has, still has it.

02:53:31.260 --> 02:53:33.260
Chrono's series, unused.

02:53:34.260 --> 02:53:37.260
They will take on his advice, they all group up.

02:53:37.260 --> 02:53:40.260
Mikoto is returning to the fray, he was pushing out top.

02:53:40.260 --> 02:53:42.260
But here he comes, they're gonna try and force this.

02:53:42.260 --> 02:53:44.260
Axe showing in wave, then they get hit by the playables.

02:53:44.260 --> 02:53:48.020
the play-holes. They're gonna come Mal-Reen, two heroes caught with the double lasso. They're

02:53:48.020 --> 02:53:51.460
gonna be able to get the damage out of the sharp shooter. Both of them will die, but

02:53:51.460 --> 02:53:55.260
Kronosphere from Mifo catches on to three. Does he have the damage to kill them?

02:53:55.260 --> 02:53:59.940
Snaking is the only one that's fallen so far, but the noxious play, doing the rest of the

02:53:59.940 --> 02:54:04.540
work, able to at least kill off the axe. But unfortunately for them, Skeeter is just way

02:54:04.540 --> 02:54:09.780
too strong right now. Comes through with the S-Kes, rips through the puck, makes it a triple

02:54:09.780 --> 02:54:10.780
kill for himself.

02:54:10.780 --> 02:54:15.300
I mean, the tip I actually get from Mal'Reen, he just baited his team, didn't he?

02:54:15.300 --> 02:54:20.540
Like, guys, guys, we can fight, I have Chrono, and then he just goes for the silencer and time walks away.

02:54:21.180 --> 02:54:26.900
I get it, maybe he thought they didn't have enough damage in the Chrono, but to me it felt like they did.

02:54:26.900 --> 02:54:34.740
If you look at that Ripley, even without Faceless Moid, he think a single other hero than the Snaking Silencer, they dropped to like 50%.

02:54:34.740 --> 02:54:37.820
Imagine if Faceless Moid was actually doing some damage as well there.

02:54:37.820 --> 02:54:44.820
He values his life a little bit more, of course, at this point he is the ultimate carry of this game, so I understand that, but I really want to see this again.

02:54:44.820 --> 02:54:47.820
Like, he jumps in, he follows after the double last, so...

02:54:47.820 --> 02:54:50.820
But look, he just goes straight for sneaking. B-lines.

02:54:51.820 --> 02:54:54.820
Yeah, Makoto also got caught on the edge of the road now.

02:54:54.820 --> 02:55:01.820
Look at Tamar, look at Skidder, like, they're dropping really low, but he doesn't really want to go on one or the other.

02:55:02.820 --> 02:55:03.820
Okay, I mean...

02:55:03.820 --> 02:55:12.280
Well, now there is an Aegis sitting on Skeeter as well, with the Desolator being very high

02:55:12.280 --> 02:55:15.360
charges, satanic available.

02:55:15.360 --> 02:55:18.240
I wonder how that fight could have gone if Makoto wasn't in the Chrono as well, if you

02:55:18.240 --> 02:55:22.240
were slightly on the outside, able to put in a little bit of excess damage, Skeeter could

02:55:22.240 --> 02:55:23.240
maybe have died there.

02:55:23.240 --> 02:55:27.560
Yeah, maybe that's also why FacelessWay didn't want to commit, he didn't really have all

02:55:27.560 --> 02:55:32.640
of his teammates there, and his BKB I believe was literally on the second of a Chrono after

02:55:32.640 --> 02:55:39.720
the chrono fell so demon edge will be the next item for him so faces with an

02:55:39.720 --> 02:55:45.200
mkb very soon nightfall is he caught up complete he did say he's going to

02:55:45.200 --> 02:55:50.000
recover in one of the listeners and he did

02:55:50.640 --> 02:55:56.160
Duncan so feeling good about themselves as long as they can keep getting my

02:55:56.160 --> 02:55:59.520
reen to find the double lasso it was super good to bring out all go back

02:55:59.520 --> 02:56:05.840
quickly as well. Probably dead here, getting cold by Amar, now Renan's here as well.

02:56:05.840 --> 02:56:07.360
So tanky though.

02:56:07.360 --> 02:56:12.000
So it's taking me a lot longer than it should. Just for vibes, he throws out the Mluxus Plague

02:56:12.000 --> 02:56:13.760
just to bot usnaking for a second.

02:56:13.760 --> 02:56:19.920
It's such a low cooldown, he'll be up, he'll have the cooldown when he's resurrected anyway.

02:56:21.200 --> 02:56:26.640
If they could force a fight this way, it would be massive for Aurora actually.

02:56:26.640 --> 02:56:28.480
If they could somehow bait the Venom in.

02:56:28.480 --> 02:56:30.480
X, bottom, crit.

02:56:30.480 --> 02:56:32.480
There was Invis'd up.

02:56:32.480 --> 02:56:35.480
At the Dlimicate, they're jumping away with the puck.

02:56:35.480 --> 02:56:37.480
He doesn't go bottom. He goes to the other side.

02:56:37.480 --> 02:56:39.480
Can he see me out? No, Amar!

02:56:39.480 --> 02:56:43.480
Just on the edge of the cliff gets the call from within the river.

02:56:43.480 --> 02:56:46.480
They hold down Makoto. They kill him off.

02:56:46.480 --> 02:56:49.480
95 seconds in the grade for the puck.

02:56:49.480 --> 02:56:51.480
They're getting some really good pickoffs now.

02:56:51.480 --> 02:56:55.480
The Benvencer one was, I mean, it's nice to get the snake out of your jungle.

02:56:55.480 --> 02:57:01.480
just force it away, prevent it from farming your side, but Pock is a massive kill, BKB.

02:57:01.480 --> 02:57:03.480
BKB? Yeah?

02:57:03.480 --> 02:57:04.480
Nitro?

02:57:04.480 --> 02:57:05.480
Nitro.

02:57:06.480 --> 02:57:07.480
No TP.

02:57:09.480 --> 02:57:14.480
I knew observers are gonna show BKB, but no TP this time. Just testing.

02:57:15.480 --> 02:57:18.480
That's a very expensive chance to be running.

02:57:18.480 --> 02:57:22.480
Especially when your high ground is about to be assaulted.

02:57:22.480 --> 02:57:26.480
They might have even seen this, actually, they haven't observed it on the other side, so they know.

02:57:26.480 --> 02:57:31.480
There is no availability of the BKB, so Skeeter feels no fear rushing onto the racks,

02:57:31.480 --> 02:57:35.480
has a banner behind him as well to protect the creep wave when it comes.

02:57:36.480 --> 02:57:39.480
There we go, lane of Barracks just taken by Falcons.

02:57:39.480 --> 02:57:43.480
Malri, Barakie for Elasso, Glimmercapes will protect the Venomons, sir.

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They lift back Malri, and he still has BKB though, so he's scary to go upon.

02:57:47.480 --> 02:57:51.480
They know that Amar's just waiting for them to overcommit on that Batrider.

02:57:51.480 --> 02:57:56.480
in the meantime, Skeeter, very happy to just start beating down the tier 3 tower.

02:57:56.480 --> 02:58:01.480
There's a heart on Axe's ball, by the way, ready to pounce with 4.5k HP.

02:58:01.480 --> 02:58:04.480
I don't know if you kill him in the chrono at this point.

02:58:06.480 --> 02:58:09.480
You're a Roro, you're like, man, this pocket's been dead for so long, bro.

02:58:09.480 --> 02:58:15.480
He has been, doesn't he? Like, no buyback, that's for like 90 seconds, he's level 25, of course, already.

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And he's that one instrument that they had that could prevent the bats from jumping in and going out the way he did

02:58:22.200 --> 02:58:28.480
Even without using BKB, bats just jumps in. He has boots of bearing. They work extremely well versus Venomanser

02:58:28.480 --> 02:58:34.920
So he's about to hit his level 25 as well. Got some extra lasso duration, of course

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I think we're at that stage of the game, Liz, where if they win the game

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It's gonna have to be like a proper carry carry performance from Nightfall

02:58:44.340 --> 02:58:48.340
Well, this is the kind of a game that Wasteless White wants.

02:58:48.340 --> 02:58:52.340
He wants to go this late, 40 plus minutes, but he's six-slotted.

02:58:52.340 --> 02:58:59.340
Still has room to grow, of course, but more or less, he's fully activated.

02:59:02.340 --> 02:59:08.340
You saw what happened after Malrin jumped in. The lack of threatening poke damage from Aurora is a bit of a problem.

02:59:08.340 --> 02:59:12.340
You know, earlier on, Kari was able to provide that, but they have way too many tools now to deal with him.

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This is going to be building a loader, at least, there's going to be a hex out onto the Venomonser.

02:59:21.580 --> 02:59:25.740
Glimmer Cape will protect him for now, Skeeter has a hit with the Nautious Plague,

02:59:25.740 --> 02:59:27.940
they're just going to lose his first life just like that.

02:59:27.940 --> 02:59:31.540
Is he going to pop it?

02:59:31.540 --> 02:59:35.520
Indeed he is, Global Silence will come out but it's too late, Nightfall directly onto

02:59:35.520 --> 02:59:38.740
Skeeter and they're going to lose their kids a hundred seconds without him.

02:59:38.740 --> 02:59:40.740
Now they need to run with the rest of their heroes, Amar.

02:59:40.740 --> 02:59:44.740
He's not going to be the priority target, Makoto is looming towards getting this hoodwink.

02:59:44.740 --> 02:59:50.240
The Hex does come back, unfortunately he gets hit with the venomous scale, more damage coming in from Nightfall.

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They've now brought down Crit, Amar realizing there's no point even trying to TP out with Nightfall right in front of him.

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He gets tossed forward, hits him with the bash, kills off the axe, and it's a double kill for Makoto, Aurora.

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They catch Falcons with their pants down and spank them in the jungle.

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definitely that was a shillacking that rider by the way and silencer while all

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of this was happening we're completely zoned out by Largo so they couldn't

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even move into the fight they couldn't do anything they couldn't assist they were

03:00:18.820 --> 03:00:24.860
just chased by the frog when you when you take the ages that's usually a huge

03:00:24.860 --> 03:00:30.700
advantage versus the chrono versus the void but you cannot die before chrono

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has been used like you need that first that needs to be in the chrono somehow

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This was a very cheap kill. Like they found Skeeter way too easily.

03:00:39.500 --> 03:00:41.500
He got baited a little bit by the Venom.

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And we did talk about it. Like this Venom is like the biggest bait in the game.

03:00:46.500 --> 03:00:49.500
Like the best hero for Aurora to put up front.

03:00:49.500 --> 03:00:53.500
And for Alcons to try going on, of course, it's not good for them.

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Good one, guys. Very good.

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Get the lines out. Get the lines out. Nice. I get 25 now.

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What did we all say on the panel? If you want to just win the game of Dodo Nightfall, just let him talk, follow what he's doing.

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So far, he's been working out for them. They've pushed out these lanes, they've picked up two tier two towers in the duration of these respawns of Falcons.

03:01:16.500 --> 03:01:28.000
He also had a lot of different builds queued up on the Phasus Void, but now with these couple of fights won, he moved away from small items.

03:01:28.000 --> 03:01:35.140
And he's going literally just for everything that's big he has the link as he's going for butterfly nice ultimate scaling of course with level 25

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This is the point of the game in which face this word seems unstoppable

03:01:42.820 --> 03:01:45.320
This shot is really good against bad rider

03:01:46.760 --> 03:01:51.680
Just in general for his corner skills gonna be fantastic for nightfall. It's actually really good. Yeah, okay

03:01:51.680 --> 03:01:59.080
It's a bit different, of course, now, and just the fact that you get attack speed in the Chrono as well.

03:01:59.080 --> 03:02:00.280
It's really good.

03:02:00.280 --> 03:02:06.080
Another shard that is maybe even more impactful in this game is the one on Largo.

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Because once you get the shard on Largo, you can constantly spam Croco Genius on other targets.

03:02:11.780 --> 03:02:13.780
You don't have to save it only for yourself.

03:02:13.780 --> 03:02:16.280
So you can use it on the Venom, you can use it on the Puck as well.

03:02:17.880 --> 03:02:20.480
Falcons realizing that something is going awry in this game,

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They need to change the circumstances, they'll start off on Kaori, find a lasso, drag him into the river, still alive, puts on the Lotus Orb, how is he not dying, WS keeping him off as well,

03:02:30.680 --> 03:02:36.480
Nightfall jumping in as well as Mikoto. They have Dreamcruel if they want to use it, but he's gonna go for the back lines here.

03:02:36.480 --> 03:02:38.480
They're still chasing, no BKB on Axe.

03:02:38.480 --> 03:02:46.480
Balkan's running, fleeing, and ah, he must feel so bad about that. So many spells on Kaori, but like you said earlier, this guy is just a bait.

03:02:46.480 --> 03:02:51.240
He's a bait like you don't want to go on the banana monster like this is one hero that

03:02:53.200 --> 03:02:57.520
True history of Dota this has been the bait hero you go on him

03:02:57.520 --> 03:03:03.920
He casts one spells he dies and he's happy and I guess maybe the reasoning is he has agonies

03:03:04.000 --> 03:03:09.320
So you kind of have to initiate on him as well. It's amping up way too much damage for his team

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Orora, they're gonna smoke up, we'll be the one that's potentially found, blicks away

03:03:14.680 --> 03:03:20.440
very nicely, Ravens veiled even committed by Skeeter, but as they rush back into the

03:03:20.440 --> 03:03:24.320
base this might open up the Roshan, big man has returned to the fray.

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Pushing high ground is really difficult still for Orora, unless you have like some double

03:03:28.320 --> 03:03:31.800
chrono or one chrono where you know you're going to kill a couple of targets, I think

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you need to pick off first.

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high ground into a bat with Refesher axe is, yeah, borderline insanity, it cannot happen.

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Mira pings out the Roshan, but Falcons will scan the area as well, so they know that Aurora

03:03:47.320 --> 03:03:54.280
is here, they know the importance of having double lives can be on a faceless void no

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less.

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They're not willing to give this up, they're gonna go back, Crick, has an observable ward

03:04:00.280 --> 03:04:05.220
out so he sees them approaching with this logo they have a smoke though versus

03:04:05.220 --> 03:04:08.700
these Venom words it will be hard to approach like look they try from two

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different angles with bat and Kaz and both of them just get scouted fuck his

03:04:13.900 --> 03:04:23.140
imposition as well it's got the winning rift but as well this is so obnoxious

03:04:23.140 --> 03:04:27.900
can't do anything they can't involve themselves making almost actually die

03:04:27.900 --> 03:04:31.820
straight up to the Dreamcatcher. Makoto just jumps in afterwards, snaking a critter, both gone!

03:04:31.820 --> 03:04:38.700
This puck! Just playing heads up, finding them as they're trying to approach. They're dead,

03:04:38.700 --> 03:04:43.260
they have buyback, but they cannot prevent Nightfall from snagging in ages. She's now

03:04:43.260 --> 03:04:45.980
on Kaori as well. Yeah, sure, make him even more tanky.

03:04:51.340 --> 03:04:56.540
Nightfall on the high ground, it's an 11k gold lead. Axe wants to be able to jump in,

03:04:56.540 --> 03:05:02.140
but they found him now, so they can just pepper that area with the playboards, just keep disabling the slink dagger.

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Can you double cheese with Largo?

03:05:09.740 --> 03:05:10.540
Blast off?

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Oh no, what an illusion.

03:05:12.700 --> 03:05:13.420
What a creep.

03:05:13.420 --> 03:05:17.020
And then, Necronos here catches Skeeter as well as Mal'Reen.

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Skeeter's just dead, needs to buy back to try and defend the game.

03:05:19.740 --> 03:05:23.100
They lift back the Batrider, he ends up being brought down as well.

03:05:23.100 --> 03:05:27.020
No buyback for Malrin. Amar with the call, only connected onto Mira.

03:05:27.020 --> 03:05:30.540
He gets catching lead to save him. So Amar can't actually bring him down.

03:05:30.540 --> 03:05:33.420
In the meantime, Skeeler with his buyback wants to go in with the Raptor Dots.

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BKB is active. Global Silent is protecting him.

03:05:36.220 --> 03:05:40.940
But where is the damage? He's being bashed. He's being held in place. He's being killed off.

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Die back on the cares. That should be the end of the game.

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GG well played, Aurora has made it to the grand finals.

03:05:51.100 --> 03:05:58.860
Just let him farm, this man will recover, and he did, like, kudos to Falcons for trying,

03:05:58.860 --> 03:06:01.180
like, they were in a really bad spot at the end of this game.

03:06:01.180 --> 03:06:05.700
Malrin tried to circumnavigate behind the items with the lasso and the creep, because

03:06:05.700 --> 03:06:10.140
he has X, but unfortunately for him, it caught the illusion.

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If he catches the right hero and not the illusion, maybe they will still be in this game.

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As we have heard, if you listen to Nightfall, if you give him time, if you let him get to

03:06:18.660 --> 03:06:25.060
the position where he gets to the late game. He will always reliably carry the game. Congratulations

03:06:25.060 --> 03:06:29.820
to Aurora. They are in the grand finals. We're going to send it back to the panel to break

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down this game and give us a preview for the finale.

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Thanks a lot, Snare. Nice short day for you today, unlike last night, so we can all relax.

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But no relaxing for Aurora. They're going to grand final to play in. Meanwhile, Falcons,

03:06:45.700 --> 03:06:50.140
I gotta say, very, very surprised how abrupt this was.

03:06:51.180 --> 03:06:52.240
They took it personal.

03:06:52.240 --> 03:06:55.060
The one gives, like, you know, kill one guy,

03:06:55.060 --> 03:06:57.980
give four of those back, they actually took it to heart,

03:06:57.980 --> 03:07:01.460
and they had such a better showing

03:07:01.460 --> 03:07:05.300
compared to the last five series, the five games they played.

03:07:05.300 --> 03:07:08.340
Falcons on the other hand, I'm not surprised

03:07:08.340 --> 03:07:10.220
they did manage to lose this game

03:07:10.220 --> 03:07:12.780
because, again, when it gets to late game,

03:07:12.780 --> 03:07:15.260
Aurora just has like this overwhelming teamfight

03:07:15.260 --> 03:07:19.880
with a chrono and since Falcons have no save, basically like it's getting deep, this is

03:07:19.880 --> 03:07:20.880
going to happen.

03:07:20.880 --> 03:07:23.520
Your carry is going to get chronoed, it's not much you can do about it.

03:07:23.520 --> 03:07:28.120
The other heroes are like in a bad matchup in the game, yeah, not surprising.

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Shout out to Nightfall man, like, in a Godfall.

03:07:31.360 --> 03:07:35.760
In a game like this, like you heard him on the comms, he was confident, he was like,

03:07:35.760 --> 03:07:39.520
guys I got level 25, just go like shove up the lanes, like we got this.

03:07:39.520 --> 03:07:46.720
You need to have faith in yourself, especially in the mid and the carry.

03:07:46.720 --> 03:07:50.360
They need to be feeling always like the game is winnable.

03:07:50.360 --> 03:07:54.200
And the thing is, they have faceless Void puck, like we was mentioning.

03:07:54.200 --> 03:07:57.680
These are crazy good late game heroes, super good against Kes.

03:07:57.680 --> 03:08:02.600
You can see it was very miserable to be Kes in these fights, just getting chain stun,

03:08:02.600 --> 03:08:08.680
getting chronoed, even after buying back, still getting chain stun, like the late game

03:08:08.680 --> 03:08:15.580
was too hard. Falcons had to close out the game early. I mean, Amar Axe, it looked really

03:08:15.580 --> 03:08:21.480
good in the laning stage, but you could see that he fell off. He was missing some calls.

03:08:21.480 --> 03:08:26.400
It was a little rough for him outside of the laning stage. It's not a very popular hero.

03:08:26.400 --> 03:08:30.640
It's a very specialist hero. So I really respect that he was willing to pull something like

03:08:30.640 --> 03:08:35.320
this out and try to clutch it out. He almost did. But Aurora is just too good, man.

03:08:35.320 --> 03:08:41.800
I mean, I'm gonna be real. I genuinely believe out of all the Valahias, this is the best I've seen

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From nightfall individually. I think, you know, we've done all the memes the TP the BKB TP all that stuff

03:08:49.120 --> 03:08:50.700
He's manning up in these fights now

03:08:50.700 --> 03:08:57.240
Like he is actually playing way more aggressive getting in getting in your face making big plays you can hear

03:08:57.240 --> 03:09:01.880
He's talking to his team. He's making calls. I think he's in a very good place right now as a player

03:09:01.880 --> 03:09:09.560
He's become a chat right now. As you mentioned, he basically started out like the meme of the nightfall of course everybody knows that

03:09:10.000 --> 03:09:12.000
at this point, I

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Mean he understands

03:09:14.560 --> 03:09:17.320
Just go man like he needs to be a part of the game

03:09:17.320 --> 03:09:23.160
You can't just always be KB to be out. You need to like be KB and go in commit die with the team, you know like be there

03:09:24.280 --> 03:09:30.220
What whatever happened in night falls life to make him realize that the optimal way of flying Dota is

03:09:30.220 --> 03:09:37.260
Is sometimes to die and it's sometimes to get destroyed in lane and it's not just the optimal

03:09:37.460 --> 03:09:43.820
You know what place to TP yourself out etc like shout outs to that guy because I think night falls like a computer

03:09:43.820 --> 03:09:48.820
He's a machine. He'll just do whatever is optimal and the moment he learns that like this is the optimal way of playing

03:09:48.820 --> 03:09:51.380
So like sometimes die and sacrifice your game

03:09:52.020 --> 03:09:58.420
He ascended to prime nightfall and did it without even having a particularly like big stop line

03:09:58.420 --> 03:10:04.860
I mean like it was just impactful chrono 3 4 15. It's not that impressive, but the gameplay was absolutely

03:10:04.860 --> 03:10:06.940
the way I see it in the beginning he was basically like

03:10:07.460 --> 03:10:11.300
Putting maximum efficiency into his own gameplay and then he realized okay

03:10:11.300 --> 03:10:15.360
Maybe some things I do are not good for the team right and then he started. Yeah, that's a very good way

03:10:15.360 --> 03:10:22.080
I started thinking okay, so if I die for the team, maybe my team can get you know the good things going on

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So basically lose together win together. Well, I got some good news for you

03:10:26.180 --> 03:10:30.840
We can ask him about his journey to Chad hood nightfalls with slacks right now

03:10:31.860 --> 03:10:37.080
Thank you so much Richard. Yes, the panel is right. We have achieved prime nightfall

03:10:37.080 --> 03:10:41.860
We have achieved Chad nightfall gone are the days of getting out of fights

03:10:42.140 --> 03:10:47.580
Here are the days of fighting till you die and winning games. How do you feel after that series?

03:10:47.900 --> 03:10:52.500
Feel good to play in Grand Final and feel good especially to big Falcons. Yeah

03:10:52.500 --> 03:10:56.500
Got to feel good, of course. Do you feel like your gameplay has changed that much?

03:10:56.500 --> 03:11:01.500
A lot of the panels and other people are saying that in this tournament we've seen a lot more sacrificial play,

03:11:01.500 --> 03:11:05.500
we've seen a lot more of getting into fights. Is it same old to you or are you evolving?

03:11:05.500 --> 03:11:09.500
I mean, it's not the same, but just my gameplay has changed over time.

03:11:09.500 --> 03:11:16.500
And I think, I mean, it's not only for this tournament, I just play like this for last, maybe since, I mean, since New Year.

03:11:16.500 --> 03:11:21.940
I mean, maybe just for a year, something like this, I just play more to help, to like play active,

03:11:21.940 --> 03:11:27.460
because I feel like it's where Dota moving, and I need to go step-to-step with it to win.

03:11:28.020 --> 03:11:32.180
How much of that is trust on your team? I mean, I see you guys are playing very well together,

03:11:32.180 --> 03:11:35.700
obviously. You've made it to the grand finals. Do you have to trust your team a lot,

03:11:35.700 --> 03:11:39.620
or is it more your team trusting you? It's more my team trusting me, I think.

03:11:40.500 --> 03:11:44.740
That's what I want to hear from my carry, honestly. That's a sign of a good-ass carry. Hell yeah.

03:11:44.740 --> 03:11:46.740
Okay, so we have Betboom coming in.

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Congratulations having very quick,

03:11:48.740 --> 03:11:50.740
very seemingly-suited, easy games

03:11:50.740 --> 03:11:52.740
as we go into a grand finals,

03:11:52.740 --> 03:11:54.740
much different than last year's Wallachia.

03:11:54.740 --> 03:11:55.740
Are you prepared?

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Did you get steady a lot for Betboom?

03:11:57.740 --> 03:11:59.740
Are you ready to face this team?

03:11:59.740 --> 03:12:01.740
Yeah, I think it will be funny in the close grand final.

03:12:01.740 --> 03:12:03.740
I'm excited to play it,

03:12:03.740 --> 03:12:06.740
and also there's, like, my friends there,

03:12:06.740 --> 03:12:08.740
and also there's their coach, Bulk.

03:12:08.740 --> 03:12:10.740
He, like, bring me into Dota

03:12:10.740 --> 03:12:12.740
and took me into my first team VP,

03:12:12.740 --> 03:12:18.020
team VP and then we talk with him a lot like month by month and it's finally

03:12:18.020 --> 03:12:22.580
like me or him will win tier one tournament so it feels good. Alright we'll

03:12:22.580 --> 03:12:28.460
find out if the student will surpass the master here very cool idea right there

03:12:28.460 --> 03:12:33.900
you know going in so do you hope it's a little bit more competitive though do we

03:12:33.900 --> 03:12:37.300
want to go to the game five do we want to have a drawn-out series or you just

03:12:37.300 --> 03:12:40.660
want to go in there and crush a baby is that what the goal is? The goal is to

03:12:40.660 --> 03:12:45.940
3-0 but I believe it's not gonna be the case. If it's not the case you at least

03:12:45.940 --> 03:12:50.700
want a good game? Yeah. All right. And then the question I have to ask you my

03:12:50.700 --> 03:12:54.380
friend as I always do we've talked about the 3-0 we've talked about facing your

03:12:54.380 --> 03:12:58.480
friends look directly in the camera and tell me are you gonna be winning this

03:12:58.480 --> 03:13:03.980
grand final? Yeah. Your team just walked by and said yes! All right that's what I like to hear.

03:13:03.980 --> 03:13:08.540
Thank you so much. Get some rest, prepare, talk to your coach because we have

03:13:08.540 --> 03:13:11.660
What a hell of a grand final coming to your guys's way very soon

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Thanks a lot, but that's thanks. I know that's a really cool story night for that

03:13:16.380 --> 03:13:21.980
I didn't know that about about the coach on pet boom and and so it is always nice to go back and

03:13:22.620 --> 03:13:28.100
You know show the people that had faith in you even if it is by beating them in the tournament

03:13:28.100 --> 03:13:30.660
You know, you were right. I am pretty good. I'm good

03:13:31.340 --> 03:13:33.340
Yeah, I mean a lot of these

03:13:33.340 --> 03:13:38.740
Eastern European players like from the time of nightfall from the time of pure

03:13:38.740 --> 03:13:41.540
you know these guys are playing with like the the

03:13:41.540 --> 03:13:47.780
Namiga team and Liga team and like the tier two tournaments in that region and

03:13:47.780 --> 03:13:51.860
I feel like they they all know each other there's a lot of camaraderie there

03:13:51.860 --> 03:13:57.420
there's a lot of brotherhood there but you know at some point the student does

03:13:57.420 --> 03:14:02.340
have to surpass the master at some point you know birdie gets pushed out of the

03:14:02.340 --> 03:14:05.840
They're either gonna fly or they're gonna, you know, hit the ground.

03:14:05.840 --> 03:14:08.340
I love that there's this rivalry between him and the coach.

03:14:08.340 --> 03:14:11.340
Again, I have no information of that before.

03:14:11.340 --> 03:14:15.340
I love his answer as well, that he understands his improvement was towards the team.

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Like he's helping out.

03:14:17.340 --> 03:14:24.340
I feel he's, like I can, actually going into the Grand Finals and actually probably might even 3-0 them.

03:14:24.340 --> 03:14:26.340
He looks like a machine, man. I don't know.

03:14:26.340 --> 03:14:31.840
The way he's talking about Dota, the way he's answering slacks, just purely focused machine.

03:14:31.840 --> 03:14:36.480
Like he doesn't care about anything that's happening around him. He doesn't think about anything else during the interview

03:14:36.480 --> 03:14:39.840
Look, I was just thinking all right. So what am I gonna play? So what am I gonna ban?

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This is good. This is bad, you know, and they obviously came very prepared for Falcon as well. Yeah, I mean, I mean look it's like I say

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I've seen him play for many years and

03:14:50.200 --> 03:14:56.100
Obviously one of the things he used to prioritize was his own survival above all now

03:14:56.100 --> 03:14:58.720
He's getting in the mix and realizing, you know what?

03:14:58.720 --> 03:15:01.320
But yeah, sometimes I can just do all the damage,

03:15:01.320 --> 03:15:03.640
dump all my spells, I die, we win the fights,

03:15:03.640 --> 03:15:05.280
we win the games, oh yeah.

03:15:05.280 --> 03:15:08.320
So I love this new version of Nightfall

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and certainly gonna be very tough for Betboom

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to beat them when they're in that form.

03:15:13.400 --> 03:15:15.080
But meanwhile, looking back to the game,

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we'll do the autopsy, so to speak.

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There were a couple of moments we wanted to highlight.

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Obviously for Falcons, I think,

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and this isn't a good matchup for them

03:15:23.840 --> 03:15:28.000
and the writing was kind of on the wall in the mid game

03:15:28.000 --> 03:15:30.040
but they did get off to a pretty good start.

03:15:31.400 --> 03:15:34.120
They actually did super well, I believe,

03:15:34.120 --> 03:15:35.640
in the lane stage compared to, again,

03:15:35.640 --> 03:15:39.160
the last five games they played against this team.

03:15:39.160 --> 03:15:40.500
They fixed their issues.

03:15:40.500 --> 03:15:43.280
Mal'Reen had a much better time than I expected.

03:15:43.280 --> 03:15:45.400
I think Skater played super well.

03:15:45.400 --> 03:15:48.920
Something, I didn't really see this guy too much on KS, right?

03:15:48.920 --> 03:15:51.120
And I feel like he actually put up a good performance,

03:15:51.120 --> 03:15:53.960
but at the end he was just outmatched by the enemy heroes.

03:15:53.960 --> 03:15:55.560
Like, it's not much you can do.

03:15:55.560 --> 03:15:56.880
You don't have a save against Krono.

03:15:56.880 --> 03:16:02.920
It's literally like you have to end the game and I think they took a racks because nightfall like miss Clutty's DKB

03:16:06.200 --> 03:16:11.560
Obviously a machine, but an imperfect machine as well. Yeah, but yeah, I think

03:16:12.640 --> 03:16:16.720
They maybe could have had the chance if they went in earlier, but since it's Falcons again

03:16:16.720 --> 03:16:22.960
They really don't like going high ground. So we've got a we've got a clip here. This is an I'm our death 820

03:16:22.960 --> 03:16:26.840
He had a very good early game. Yes, his landing stage even solo killed nightfall

03:16:26.840 --> 03:16:31.280
You know, maybe that's why nightfall was pressing the BKB by accident a bit flustered about the Amar axe

03:16:31.680 --> 03:16:37.600
But you can see here is where nightfall needed to trust his team Makoto coming in with the gorge silence

03:16:38.640 --> 03:16:44.080
Stopping the axe call into dunk nightfall had no jump there on faces

03:16:44.080 --> 03:16:46.680
Well, so he was dead. He was straight up dead and even WS

03:16:46.680 --> 03:16:51.720
He begins deep being in is very important there like understanding that Amar has all of this net worth on him

03:16:51.720 --> 03:16:56.600
but you know he's not playing Bristol he's not playing Tide he's you could

03:16:56.600 --> 03:17:00.680
argue there that maybe he overplayed his hand a little bit because on axe if you

03:17:00.680 --> 03:17:04.120
die in this sort of situation like you want to be snowballing in this year you

03:17:04.120 --> 03:17:08.120
can snowball on this hero yeah but yeah feeding a big amount of gold away there

03:17:08.120 --> 03:17:12.800
to Makoto who had an amazing game then fast forward to minute 39 I think this

03:17:12.800 --> 03:17:18.760
is the thing you were highlighting yeah this is this is the team fight actually

03:17:18.760 --> 03:17:19.760
No, sorry, this is the-

03:17:19.760 --> 03:17:21.760
Yeah, that's absolutely true about the BKB.

03:17:21.760 --> 03:17:23.760
Yeah, I mean, this is pretty much like they're going high ground.

03:17:23.760 --> 03:17:24.760
He thought there was a high ground.

03:17:24.760 --> 03:17:25.760
This is literally the worst moment.

03:17:25.760 --> 03:17:29.760
The worst moment possible, you can probably miss-click your BKB.

03:17:29.760 --> 03:17:34.760
It's exactly when they went high ground and they ended up taking the racks again, so...

03:17:34.760 --> 03:17:39.760
I feel like this has happened a bit later in the game.

03:17:39.760 --> 03:17:40.760
I'm not sure.

03:17:40.760 --> 03:17:43.760
I think this is where Skitter's inexperience with Kess comes in,

03:17:43.760 --> 03:17:46.760
because he decides to just not click any buttons and die

03:17:46.760 --> 03:17:48.640
Faces boy with Chrono Street, right?

03:17:48.640 --> 03:17:53.780
Mm-hmm, and obviously it's just gonna click on a street when I respond and this is where the entire dynamic of the game completely

03:17:53.780 --> 03:17:58.420
Changed yes, this is where our aura understood. Okay. We have the stronger team fight

03:17:58.420 --> 03:18:03.000
They will never be able to beat us if we click our buttons correctly, which they did

03:18:03.000 --> 03:18:08.040
Yeah, yeah, and night night false that as much I think it was shortly after this you heard him on the comms

03:18:08.040 --> 03:18:11.440
He's able to push out lanes now and let's you play the game

03:18:11.440 --> 03:18:15.300
It becomes a very comfortable game because this was the game like that with that legit Emily

03:18:15.300 --> 03:18:17.540
Purely downfall for Falcons from there on.

03:18:17.540 --> 03:18:21.140
It's not just the players, it's just the heroes, that's how they picked.

03:18:21.140 --> 03:18:23.700
A good strategy if you want to play against Falcons.

03:18:23.700 --> 03:18:27.060
Yeah, for sure. Like Faceless Void is a good strategy.

03:18:27.060 --> 03:18:30.900
I mean, Makoto Pock, obviously anytime against any team, you're going to take Makoto Pock,

03:18:30.900 --> 03:18:34.900
but the Faceless Void is like, we talked about this a few days ago.

03:18:34.900 --> 03:18:39.540
It's very hard to theory craft something in Dota that is better in the late game

03:18:39.540 --> 03:18:42.260
or countering Chronosphere. It's like the ultimate trump card.

03:18:42.260 --> 03:18:48.820
We came up with OD with Refresher, Shadow Demon, or Pudge, and who wants to pick Pudge?

03:18:48.820 --> 03:18:51.380
They're all basically just saved, right?

03:18:51.380 --> 03:18:56.660
Yeah, you don't kill them, but you save from these guaranteed kill. It's just the ultimate late-game hero.

03:18:56.660 --> 03:18:59.300
Players have been trying to find a solution for Void Legion for what now?

03:18:59.300 --> 03:19:03.060
As long as Void has been in the game, pretty much so. And they still haven't come up with it.

03:19:04.020 --> 03:19:07.940
Just talking about Falcons, obviously for the rest of the season, moving forward.

03:19:07.940 --> 03:19:11.940
You know, we wondered how they were going to react to the patch.

03:19:11.940 --> 03:19:17.940
Obviously, some signature heroes feel like they're just not really viable at the highest level,

03:19:17.940 --> 03:19:19.940
competitively. Falken's definitely feeling that.

03:19:19.940 --> 03:19:24.940
But I'll say, I mean, I thought, start the playoffs, they were done.

03:19:24.940 --> 03:19:28.940
I think to get third overall here, pretty good all things considered.

03:19:28.940 --> 03:19:32.940
Disappointing for Skitter. He was even aiming to get first place, right?

03:19:32.940 --> 03:19:39.940
But at the same time, I really believe Ammar deserves to do much better here.

03:19:39.940 --> 03:19:44.940
Third place, by no means is a bad result, but I feel like the way Ammar is playing,

03:19:44.940 --> 03:19:47.940
I think grand final and minimum would have been like...

03:19:47.940 --> 03:19:50.940
I mean, at the end of the day though, six heroes bound.

03:19:50.940 --> 03:19:54.940
I mean, in the last game, six heroes bound out of seven, right?

03:19:54.940 --> 03:19:56.940
He gets axe if you're not comfortable with.

03:19:56.940 --> 03:20:00.940
He solo kills Nightfall. He bullies Nightfall then throughout the entire game

03:20:00.940 --> 03:20:06.080
forcing like his teammates is offlier to TP in like 7-8 minutes just to save Nightfall.

03:20:06.080 --> 03:20:11.720
Yeah, right? Like, Ahmad is definitely overperforming. I'm not sure if he's in his prime right now.

03:20:11.720 --> 03:20:16.160
Some people might argue with that, but he played amazing and I feel like his team did

03:20:16.160 --> 03:20:21.240
let him a little bit down, yeah, especially on the course, but it's what it is, you know,

03:20:21.240 --> 03:20:24.120
you gotta get better after every tournament. It's a team game, yeah.

03:20:24.120 --> 03:20:27.520
He needs one more hero. One more hero. Just one more.

03:20:27.520 --> 03:20:31.600
So they can't ban all of them, and then the Huskar gets through.

03:20:31.600 --> 03:20:38.320
Two more, because they've banned six out of seven, but then Tiny or Huskar would get

03:20:38.320 --> 03:20:39.320
through them.

03:20:39.320 --> 03:20:44.960
So then Skeeter could play Tiny, and not be a bot in his words.

03:20:44.960 --> 03:20:45.960
I'm not saying anything.

03:20:45.960 --> 03:20:47.240
In his words, not in my words.

03:20:47.240 --> 03:20:50.040
I think Skeeter's a go, two times TI winner.

03:20:50.040 --> 03:20:51.040
Absolutely.

03:20:51.040 --> 03:20:55.480
Just some final thoughts then before we go to break about Aurora, because obviously you're

03:20:55.480 --> 03:20:56.680
doing the finals.

03:20:56.680 --> 03:21:02.800
and I won't be. Do you, have you changed your mind about who's gonna win?

03:21:02.800 --> 03:21:06.960
Because I think we had a very strong feeling about Bet Boom. Do you think

03:21:06.960 --> 03:21:12.160
Aurora have what it takes to raise their first Valahia trophy? The way they came

03:21:12.160 --> 03:21:17.600
in here against Falcons, obviously a bad matchup as we talked about. To me it

03:21:17.600 --> 03:21:20.760
seems like they're very prepared. They knew exactly what to do. They picked a

03:21:20.760 --> 03:21:24.840
better leg game. They had the better legs. They focused the priority which

03:21:24.840 --> 03:21:29.000
was Amar, they obviously documented themselves in the past.

03:21:29.000 --> 03:21:33.720
And here again, I don't know, I feel like if they have time to prepare, I don't know

03:21:33.720 --> 03:21:34.720
if they prepare.

03:21:34.720 --> 03:21:35.720
That's the biggest thing, right?

03:21:35.720 --> 03:21:40.040
And when you come into like the last day, if you win the lower bracket finals, you need

03:21:40.040 --> 03:21:41.880
to prepare for the grand finals team, right?

03:21:41.880 --> 03:21:45.160
Because you come in here, you look at Falcons probably the entire night.

03:21:45.160 --> 03:21:50.120
Some teams don't really go further because you kind of like start overthinking, you know,

03:21:50.120 --> 03:21:53.060
just take a step by step is always like the best solution.

03:21:53.060 --> 03:21:57.700
So, if they can prepare in time for the finals, they have a very good chance of taking the

03:21:57.700 --> 03:21:58.700
game.

03:21:58.700 --> 03:22:01.500
I think sometimes if you play the lower bracket on the same day and going at the up, I think

03:22:01.500 --> 03:22:04.980
sometimes you have the advantage, you're warmed up, you've got the momentum, you've

03:22:04.980 --> 03:22:08.420
got the ideas, you've got the flow, other guys are coming in, they've still got cups

03:22:08.420 --> 03:22:11.340
of coffee in their hands, red bulls in their hands, you know what I mean?

03:22:11.340 --> 03:22:13.340
Yeah, Aurora's feeling it.

03:22:13.340 --> 03:22:14.340
Yeah, also true.

03:22:14.340 --> 03:22:16.340
Yeah, that is true actually.

03:22:16.340 --> 03:22:20.900
You have like the full bird's eye view, like objective view of what happened in the game.

03:22:20.900 --> 03:22:25.500
Right before you play them as well, which is a big advantage, you don't have to sleep on it and stuff.

03:22:25.500 --> 03:22:29.900
Basically, this is happening now, in 10 minutes I'm going to counter this.

03:22:29.900 --> 03:22:35.900
Exactly, exactly. It's like, okay, if they do that, well, we can do this, and they banned this, but we can just pick this.

03:22:35.900 --> 03:22:40.900
You have all of these, they don't get to think that, because they're focused on the team that they're playing against, right?

03:22:40.900 --> 03:22:46.900
And they're like on a high right now, they just won, right? So they need to go down a little bit, calm down emotionally,

03:22:46.900 --> 03:22:51.380
and try to go back up high again, which is like, this is probably like the hardest part.

03:22:51.380 --> 03:22:57.700
I've been there a couple of times, and sometimes do crash out, like it's hard on the body and mentally

03:22:57.700 --> 03:23:01.940
to fully be in your like, just full energy, you know, for the finals.

03:23:01.940 --> 03:23:04.980
Yeah, all that dopamine, serotonin, and adrenaline.

03:23:04.980 --> 03:23:05.620
Yeah, levels going up.

03:23:05.620 --> 03:23:06.980
The trifecta.

03:23:06.980 --> 03:23:08.180
High dopamine gaming.

03:23:08.180 --> 03:23:09.380
Yeah, that's what we need.

03:23:09.380 --> 03:23:13.460
Well, listen guys, my dopamine has been spiking because I got to hang out with you,

03:23:13.460 --> 03:23:14.980
I'm with some cool dota.

03:23:14.980 --> 03:23:19.460
First time hanging out with you as well. It's been a real pleasure. I watched you play for years.

03:23:19.460 --> 03:23:24.420
I loved you as a player. Love you more as an analyst. So thanks a lot for being on the sofa with us.

03:23:24.420 --> 03:23:28.340
To everybody at home, we're going to take a 13-minute break approximately

03:23:28.340 --> 03:23:32.820
before we get into the first panel before the grand final which will feature Bet Boom and Aurora.

03:23:32.820 --> 03:23:38.660
But you know what you can do in that time? One of the all-time Hall of Fame eSports people

03:23:38.660 --> 03:23:43.140
is having a birthday today. You might know what's just called Shiva. What would be cool is if you

03:23:43.140 --> 03:23:45.500
If you want on social media and wish the happy birthday,

03:23:45.500 --> 03:23:46.980
spammed happy birthday in the Twitch,

03:23:46.980 --> 03:23:48.100
I heard her screaming over there,

03:23:48.100 --> 03:23:49.300
why are you doing this Richard?

03:23:49.300 --> 03:23:52.220
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,

03:23:52.220 --> 03:23:55.220
but she's the goat, you know she's the goat,

03:23:55.220 --> 03:23:56.660
show us some love on a special day,

03:23:56.660 --> 03:23:58.620
working on a birthday, sort of sucks,

03:23:58.620 --> 03:24:00.180
but she does love Dota, so whatever.

03:24:00.180 --> 03:24:01.380
And we know you love Dota too,

03:24:01.380 --> 03:24:03.980
and that's why you're gonna join us after this break.

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The human body was built to move with, not trapped at a desk in one singular posture

03:25:02.300 --> 03:25:03.800
for 12 hours a day.

03:25:06.040 --> 03:25:08.960
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Ergonomically engineered for you,

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TEST AND THE PROSE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE RECENT PATCH, AND WHO BETTER TO TEST THAN THE GOAT

03:25:50.700 --> 03:25:53.580
himself Mr. Saber-Lite. Welcome back Saber-Lite, how are you doing?

03:25:53.580 --> 03:25:55.340
Hey, I'm doing good.

03:25:55.340 --> 03:26:01.820
Great. Did you read the patch, Saber? Did you study it?

03:26:01.820 --> 03:26:04.140
I, yeah, I read the patch.

03:26:04.140 --> 03:26:07.820
Okay, cool. How much? How in depth for you?

03:26:07.820 --> 03:26:12.140
Well, to be honest, when the big patch dropped, like 741,

03:26:12.140 --> 03:26:14.300
I kind of skimmed over it. I just read my heroes.

03:26:14.300 --> 03:26:14.860
Yeah.

03:26:14.860 --> 03:26:18.460
And then the following ones, I actually read everything, but

03:26:18.460 --> 03:26:23.420
For the big one, I actually don't know if it's going to be like some awkward and changes.

03:26:23.420 --> 03:26:26.460
I am not so sure about those, or like some support changes.

03:26:26.460 --> 03:26:29.180
Okay, well, let's get into it. I'm sure you'll do great.

03:26:29.180 --> 03:26:33.580
Saberlight is always very prepared when not prepared, so let's go. Here we go.

03:26:34.460 --> 03:26:37.580
Which of the following heroes cannot miss a pill units while flying?

03:26:37.580 --> 03:26:39.740
Batrider, Wyvern, Dragonite, or Lena?

03:26:40.940 --> 03:26:43.660
This is time. Do you want to try to answer as quick as you can?

03:26:43.660 --> 03:26:44.540
Oh, I see.

03:26:46.060 --> 03:26:47.180
Per question?

03:26:47.180 --> 03:26:49.580
No, no God, no, total.

03:26:49.580 --> 03:26:51.460
It's gonna be Vyburn.

03:26:51.460 --> 03:26:52.740
Vyburn, that is correct.

03:26:52.740 --> 03:26:53.740
How did you know?

03:26:53.740 --> 03:26:54.580
Very good.

03:26:54.580 --> 03:26:55.660
Thank you.

03:26:55.660 --> 03:26:56.780
Okay, no explanation.

03:26:56.780 --> 03:26:59.300
It looks like Warlock's Black Grimoire,

03:26:59.300 --> 03:27:01.540
which doctors Grigory and all other innate

03:27:01.540 --> 03:27:03.180
neutral items have been removed?

03:27:06.060 --> 03:27:07.100
False.

03:27:07.100 --> 03:27:07.920
That is false.

03:27:07.920 --> 03:27:08.760
That's right.

03:27:08.760 --> 03:27:10.100
Grigory's still around as long as

03:27:10.100 --> 03:27:11.420
Winter Vyburn actually got one.

03:27:11.420 --> 03:27:12.260
Yeah, the book.

03:27:12.260 --> 03:27:13.100
The book.

03:27:13.100 --> 03:27:14.420
No, it's versus Aether of Remnant,

03:27:14.420 --> 03:27:16.820
Wushard can reveal wards.

03:27:19.020 --> 03:27:20.140
False.

03:27:20.140 --> 03:27:22.540
That is true, it is false, you're right.

03:27:22.540 --> 03:27:25.420
They removed that, so yes, in the last patch.

03:27:25.420 --> 03:27:28.900
Prior to 7.41, the tormentor could deal damage

03:27:28.900 --> 03:27:30.620
to neutral units.

03:27:36.260 --> 03:27:38.620
Does that mean like when I helm a creep,

03:27:38.620 --> 03:27:39.940
is that the neutral unit or like?

03:27:39.940 --> 03:27:41.260
No, that's a player unit,

03:27:41.260 --> 03:27:42.660
but if it's close enough to a camp,

03:27:42.660 --> 03:27:50.020
you pulled a camp into it it would hurt them. That seems... true. It was true that is right.

03:27:50.020 --> 03:27:54.020
I mean it makes no sense but I remember in the patch there was like something about this that

03:27:54.020 --> 03:27:57.860
it doesn't deal anything. There you go. He did read it. Essence DeSiller's ground target ability

03:27:57.860 --> 03:28:04.980
cannot reveal which of the following. Invis units, wards. Okay moving on he's right. It is wards.

03:28:04.980 --> 03:28:09.060
Which of the following used to be a neutral item but is now a shop item. Philatrophy orb,

03:28:09.060 --> 03:28:10.540
Special Surrey or Crown?

03:28:10.540 --> 03:28:11.200
Special Surrey.

03:28:11.200 --> 03:28:12.400
That's right, easiest question.

03:28:12.400 --> 03:28:13.040
Well done.

03:28:13.040 --> 03:28:14.880
Moving on.

03:28:14.880 --> 03:28:17.400
If you kill someone that's Tidehunter and have a Chasm Stone,

03:28:17.400 --> 03:28:21.140
you can pick up the fish from a further distance.

03:28:21.140 --> 03:28:22.520
True.

03:28:22.520 --> 03:28:23.380
False, I'm afraid.

03:28:23.380 --> 03:28:24.420
No, it doesn't do it.

03:28:24.420 --> 03:28:26.720
In fact, if you click on a fish while it's in the air,

03:28:26.720 --> 03:28:27.720
it goes in your inventory.

03:28:27.720 --> 03:28:28.960
Fun fact.

03:28:28.960 --> 03:28:32.060
Which of the following does Bloodstone do in the current patch?

03:28:32.060 --> 03:28:37.020
Give 15 int, dispel, blood pack, resturve mana, or deny yourself.

03:28:37.020 --> 03:28:38.020
15 int.

03:28:38.020 --> 03:28:38.960
That's correct.

03:28:38.960 --> 03:28:40.200
We're moving on.

03:28:40.200 --> 03:28:42.440
I wish you could still deny yourself that was a good time.

03:28:42.440 --> 03:28:44.280
Unlike allied heroes, enemy heroes

03:28:44.280 --> 03:28:46.960
are able to consume items left on the ground

03:28:46.960 --> 03:28:48.720
if I have forager's kit.

03:28:48.720 --> 03:28:50.920
True or false?

03:28:50.920 --> 03:28:53.720
No idea.

03:28:53.720 --> 03:28:54.480
True, true.

03:28:54.480 --> 03:28:55.680
Yes, it is true.

03:28:55.680 --> 03:28:57.760
You can eat your enemy's nuts.

03:28:57.760 --> 03:28:58.720
Awesome.

03:28:58.720 --> 03:29:01.760
All right, partisan's brand will not

03:29:01.760 --> 03:29:04.000
do 9% increased spell damage to which

03:29:04.000 --> 03:29:04.840
of the following?

03:29:04.840 --> 03:29:07.400
Lone Druid's Bear, Terribleid's Illusions, Raith King's

03:29:07.400 --> 03:29:09.640
Skeletons or Chains Zellet?

03:29:12.140 --> 03:29:13.900
Maybe the Skeletons?

03:29:13.940 --> 03:29:16.940
That is correct! The only man to get that right. Well done.

03:29:17.280 --> 03:29:18.240
Very good.

03:29:18.280 --> 03:29:22.280
In 7.41, B, the only thing that lost, only one thing lost true sight.

03:29:22.320 --> 03:29:25.980
What was it? A neutral? A spell? A shop item? Or an innate?

03:29:26.020 --> 03:29:27.280
I don't know. An innate.

03:29:27.320 --> 03:29:28.120
No, I'm afraid...

03:29:28.160 --> 03:29:30.560
Oh, a spell! That's the voice previous thing.

03:29:30.600 --> 03:29:33.960
No, I'm afraid not. No, no. That was 7.41.

03:29:33.960 --> 03:29:40.520
A it was the book of the dead lost neutral. Oh true. Yeah, that's what you think about that. Oh

03:29:41.120 --> 03:29:43.120
Fucked up fucked up

03:29:43.280 --> 03:29:46.400
Yeah, great. All right. Thank you so much ladies and gentlemen

03:29:46.400 --> 03:29:52.780
And you did very good nine correct one of our highest ones yet. So we're like big brain on you still brother

03:29:52.800 --> 03:29:58.940
Thank you. Thank you. I was struggling for I would have gotten more but I was talking too much. Okay. I mean you were going too much

03:29:58.940 --> 03:30:01.740
Thank you very much. All right. There's Saber-Lite.

03:30:01.740 --> 03:30:02.940
Thank you guys.

03:30:02.940 --> 03:30:05.440
At P.J. O'Fallac, yes, he's me.

03:30:05.440 --> 03:30:11.940
MUSIC

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Hey, everybody, here with the pros.

03:30:13.940 --> 03:30:15.940
We have Sheeber, who is going to give us

03:30:15.940 --> 03:30:18.440
top five level 30 heroes she has,

03:30:18.440 --> 03:30:19.940
and a tip for each one.

03:30:19.940 --> 03:30:22.940
Who's your least good level 30 hero?

03:30:22.940 --> 03:30:26.940
My least good level 30 hero, probably right now,

03:30:26.940 --> 03:30:29.940
Jackiro, because he's ass, and I've got nothing to do with you.

03:30:29.940 --> 03:30:31.940
Give me a Jackiro tip.

03:30:31.940 --> 03:30:33.940
At the moment, I don't have Jackiro tips.

03:30:33.940 --> 03:30:36.940
If you have Jackiro tips, please tell me,

03:30:36.940 --> 03:30:37.940
because I need the Jackiro tips.

03:30:37.940 --> 03:30:39.940
I really do need the Jackiro tips, because it sucks.

03:30:39.940 --> 03:30:40.940
Number four.

03:30:40.940 --> 03:30:43.940
Number four will be Crystal Maiden.

03:30:43.940 --> 03:30:44.940
Okay, Crystal Maiden.

03:30:44.940 --> 03:30:48.940
Biggest tip, get your shark early, farm that gold.

03:30:48.940 --> 03:30:50.940
Yep, that's right. Good for the roots.

03:30:50.940 --> 03:30:51.940
Very good.

03:30:51.940 --> 03:30:52.940
And the roots, and the waves, very good.

03:30:52.940 --> 03:30:54.940
And it's buffed now in the last batch.

03:30:54.940 --> 03:30:57.180
All right, number three.

03:30:57.180 --> 03:31:00.680
Number three will be the Lich.

03:31:00.680 --> 03:31:01.820
Level 30 Lich.

03:31:01.820 --> 03:31:02.720
Level 30 Lich.

03:31:02.720 --> 03:31:04.820
Talk to it.

03:31:04.820 --> 03:31:08.660
The now that you deny is back on cooldown every time.

03:31:08.660 --> 03:31:09.820
Know the lay.

03:31:09.820 --> 03:31:12.260
Get yourself every deny you can.

03:31:12.260 --> 03:31:13.760
You can leave your lane for it if you need to,

03:31:13.760 --> 03:31:16.260
or at least walk to the creep wave to get your denying.

03:31:16.260 --> 03:31:18.400
Octurine core on Lich for that?

03:31:18.400 --> 03:31:18.860
No.

03:31:18.860 --> 03:31:19.860
OK.

03:31:19.860 --> 03:31:21.640
Number two.

03:31:21.640 --> 03:31:27.600
Number two at the moment will be ancient apparition. Oh, that's your number two. Yeah

03:31:28.920 --> 03:31:35.140
Okay, okay. Yeah, okay. It fell down from number one because a we call feet no longer thing and

03:31:35.860 --> 03:31:38.880
We call feet get level 25 so you can get a we call feet

03:31:38.880 --> 03:31:39.600
That's of course great

03:31:39.600 --> 03:31:42.520
My main tip though is you have longer attack range than average

03:31:42.640 --> 03:31:49.760
Make sure you use that and harass and right click and be the menace you need to be great advice for Elaine

03:31:49.760 --> 03:31:52.560
All right, number one, Shever Level 30 Hero.

03:31:52.560 --> 03:31:53.560
Dark Willow.

03:31:53.560 --> 03:31:54.560
Willow.

03:31:54.560 --> 03:31:55.560
Yeah.

03:31:55.560 --> 03:31:56.560
All right, what's your tip?

03:31:56.560 --> 03:32:01.680
My tip is actually opposite to Ancient Operation, where you can use your long range, but on

03:32:01.680 --> 03:32:07.520
Willow, don't be afraid to get in there with your betlam and just sit in your W and just

03:32:07.520 --> 03:32:09.560
make sure that everybody gets a miserable run.

03:32:09.560 --> 03:32:11.280
Okay, tips from Queen Shever.

03:32:11.280 --> 03:32:12.440
There you have it, my friends.

03:32:12.440 --> 03:32:13.320
Thanks for watching.

03:32:19.760 --> 03:32:25.520
Hello, Velacia fans. We went and asked all of the pros who they thought got the most

03:32:25.520 --> 03:32:30.400
buffed and the most nerfed from the last patch. So, pay attention if you guys want to get

03:32:30.400 --> 03:32:31.400
some Mammar.

03:32:31.400 --> 03:32:38.720
Most buffed? I mean, definitely these long druids, seriously. I don't know, Val, what

03:32:38.720 --> 03:32:42.280
were you doing there, but it's rarely long druid meta, right?

03:32:42.280 --> 03:32:43.280
Yeah, yeah.

03:32:43.280 --> 03:32:46.900
You gotta enjoy it while it lasts.

03:32:46.900 --> 03:32:55.360
buff fighting Lone Druid or Tiny. Just broken stats and it's just crazy.

03:32:55.360 --> 03:33:00.700
I don't know. What do you mean you don't know dude? Alchemist has been in every game.

03:33:00.700 --> 03:33:04.500
You know, we are seeing the Lone Druid in every single game. Aren't these guys?

03:33:04.500 --> 03:33:08.100
Lone Druid. The most buffed heroes I would say on my position

03:33:08.100 --> 03:33:12.020
it's Mirana and Enchantress so it's like Snake King coming back.

03:33:12.020 --> 03:33:15.620
Okay, yeah yeah. This too. Are you excited about those heroes?

03:33:15.620 --> 03:33:16.220
Yeah, of course.

03:33:16.220 --> 03:33:18.020
I'm small-snaking.

03:33:18.020 --> 03:33:18.520
Okay.

03:33:19.520 --> 03:33:21.720
I think most nerfs definitely Tinker.

03:33:21.720 --> 03:33:22.320
Tinker?

03:33:22.320 --> 03:33:24.220
Yeah, this hero was insane last patch.

03:33:24.220 --> 03:33:26.120
And now it's like, I don't know what the turrets do.

03:33:26.120 --> 03:33:29.720
Like, I read it, I demo it, and I still don't get it.

03:33:29.720 --> 03:33:30.020
Yeah.

03:33:30.620 --> 03:33:31.720
The biggest nerf?

03:33:31.720 --> 03:33:32.620
It's tiny.

03:33:32.620 --> 03:33:33.420
Tiny?

03:33:33.420 --> 03:33:33.920
Yeah.

03:33:33.920 --> 03:33:35.520
People are still playing this hero.

03:33:35.520 --> 03:33:36.920
They realize it's carry now.

03:33:36.920 --> 03:33:37.920
Okay, okay.

03:33:37.920 --> 03:33:39.420
So now it's a carry.

03:33:39.420 --> 03:33:40.220
So to get a...

03:33:40.220 --> 03:33:41.720
All right, I'll accept this.

03:33:41.720 --> 03:33:43.620
The nerf hero sits far like a Jokera.

03:33:43.620 --> 03:33:45.320
I'm saying this in every interview.

03:33:45.320 --> 03:33:46.880
Oh, there's encoded.

03:33:46.880 --> 03:33:47.920
I want to say Largo.

03:33:47.920 --> 03:33:48.720
Largo?

03:33:48.720 --> 03:33:51.000
Yeah, that guy got absolutely dumbstered, huh?

03:33:51.000 --> 03:33:51.800
Yeah.

03:33:51.800 --> 03:33:54.760
Even if 3-3 doesn't work it well, then yeah, it's a big

03:33:54.760 --> 03:33:55.260
victory.

03:34:03.020 --> 03:34:05.120
Everybody, analyst time with Mr. T. Governor.

03:34:05.120 --> 03:34:08.720
We are looking for the top five supports of PGO Velakia

03:34:08.720 --> 03:34:09.320
Season 8.

03:34:09.320 --> 03:34:10.200
What do you got for me?

03:34:10.200 --> 03:34:10.520
All right.

03:34:10.520 --> 03:34:12.840
So fifth place on the Slap-In Better Monster.

03:34:12.840 --> 03:34:13.320
Better, man.

03:34:13.320 --> 03:34:13.960
Easy lane.

03:34:13.960 --> 03:34:16.960
You've got three points, plague ward, you run into jungle, you farm all the creeps.

03:34:16.960 --> 03:34:17.960
Got it. Piece of cake.

03:34:17.960 --> 03:34:20.960
Piece of cake. Fourth position, I'ma go Enchantress.

03:34:20.960 --> 03:34:24.960
You take a little creep, you push down the lane, easy, you heal your ally if you need to.

03:34:24.960 --> 03:34:26.960
You also have Agnum's little friends.

03:34:26.960 --> 03:34:29.960
Jungle just going all crazy and shit. Wonderful.

03:34:29.960 --> 03:34:30.960
Also get two creeps.

03:34:30.960 --> 03:34:31.960
Okay.

03:34:31.960 --> 03:34:32.960
Fourth. Third.

03:34:32.960 --> 03:34:34.960
Didn't think this far ahead.

03:34:34.960 --> 03:34:35.960
I'ma go Silencer.

03:34:35.960 --> 03:34:36.960
Silencer. Newcomer.

03:34:36.960 --> 03:34:37.960
I don't think people respect it.

03:34:37.960 --> 03:34:42.960
Decent lane with Glaive, Global, Spermishing Heroes.

03:34:42.960 --> 03:34:43.960
No dota.

03:34:43.960 --> 03:34:44.960
Very good.

03:34:44.960 --> 03:34:45.960
Number two.

03:34:45.960 --> 03:34:46.960
Phoenix.

03:34:46.960 --> 03:34:47.960
Alright.

03:34:47.960 --> 03:34:48.960
Super easy to play.

03:34:48.960 --> 03:34:49.960
You have fire spirit, you steal the jungle.

03:34:49.960 --> 03:34:50.960
You just soak it all up.

03:34:50.960 --> 03:34:51.960
You have sun ray.

03:34:51.960 --> 03:34:53.960
You get to heal some dudes, get to kill some dudes.

03:34:53.960 --> 03:34:54.960
Sure.

03:34:54.960 --> 03:34:55.960
First pick, first ban.

03:34:55.960 --> 03:34:56.960
Yep.

03:34:56.960 --> 03:34:57.960
Done.

03:34:57.960 --> 03:34:58.960
Number one.

03:34:58.960 --> 03:34:59.960
Yeah.

03:34:59.960 --> 03:35:00.960
Rubik.

03:35:00.960 --> 03:35:01.960
It's a Wilking Wraith pat.

03:35:01.960 --> 03:35:02.960
Tundra, all they, you know, back in the day, they win a TI with it.

03:35:02.960 --> 03:35:03.960
That's because it's a slow blob.

03:35:03.960 --> 03:35:04.960
He's like blub blub blub.

03:35:04.960 --> 03:35:05.960
Now Rubik though.

03:35:05.960 --> 03:35:06.960
Done.

03:35:06.960 --> 03:35:07.960
Okay.

03:35:07.960 --> 03:35:08.960
No damage.

03:35:08.960 --> 03:35:09.960
Easy.

03:35:09.960 --> 03:35:10.960
Alright.

03:35:10.960 --> 03:35:11.960
Absolutely.

03:35:11.960 --> 03:35:16.960
And all five of those heroes are some of our most picked, most banned, and now you know why, thanks to T.

03:35:23.960 --> 03:35:32.960
Hero changes, map changes, a lot happened in 7.41, so we decided to catch up with the pros and see what they thought were the biggest changes to their gameplay.

03:35:32.960 --> 03:35:41.700
I love the newpads and I think the newpads is not so aura heavy. You can be very greedy on offlaner thing

03:35:41.700 --> 03:35:46.480
Which is like pretty fun. Yeah, that's like you can go for a great deal. I like these gigaballs like

03:35:47.260 --> 03:35:52.340
Bloodstone balls she was boss. You don't have to like buy crimson up higher every game loader. I mean lotus is fine

03:35:52.340 --> 03:35:58.060
But like yeah, just no aura, but like just go giga. Yeah, so offlanders are able to have fun again

03:35:58.060 --> 03:36:01.060
Yeah, you can carry the game now.

03:36:01.060 --> 03:36:05.060
I mean, gameplay really didn't change, it changed heroes.

03:36:05.060 --> 03:36:15.060
But I'm still trying to find some heroes to play, so it's not affecting my gameplay.

03:36:15.060 --> 03:36:18.060
It's only just about right.

03:36:18.060 --> 03:36:22.060
I think last patch wasn't very good for me, I don't think I played that well.

03:36:22.060 --> 03:36:26.060
So I think this patch, I think both the heroes in playstyle fits me a lot better.

03:36:26.060 --> 03:36:28.380
And I think it's a lot more comfortable for me.

03:36:28.380 --> 03:36:30.220
In what way? You have to be specific.

03:36:31.100 --> 03:36:34.540
It's just like the heroes. I think last time there was a lot of world logic heroes.

03:36:34.540 --> 03:36:38.380
They were not necessarily my signatures, but you just have to play it anyways,

03:36:38.380 --> 03:36:39.980
because that's what the meta dictates.

03:36:39.980 --> 03:36:42.380
But now it's like, oh thank god those heroes are gone.

03:36:42.380 --> 03:36:45.020
I wouldn't say the gameplay changed much.

03:36:45.020 --> 03:36:47.660
I mean, I got more heroes though, than I can play.

03:36:48.220 --> 03:36:50.700
It's like, I would say the main hero is a Kaz.

03:36:51.260 --> 03:36:53.820
And like, a lot of people are just banning it. It's kind of annoying.

03:36:53.820 --> 03:36:55.540
I can't, this hero is for the play.

03:36:55.540 --> 03:36:56.540
It is, it is!

03:36:56.540 --> 03:36:57.220
Yeah.

03:36:57.220 --> 03:37:02.740
They deleted the engines, so now it's like two ancient players.

03:37:02.740 --> 03:37:03.420
Uh-huh.

03:37:03.420 --> 03:37:08.220
And you can find the POTS1 hero in this zone all the time.

03:37:08.220 --> 03:37:12.460
It's more easy to kill him.

03:37:12.460 --> 03:37:16.180
So you just smoke all the time in the engines.

03:37:16.180 --> 03:37:27.780
Hey guys, we're back to test the pros knowledge of 7.41.

03:37:27.780 --> 03:37:31.140
I'm here with Miro, one of the brightest minds in Dota.

03:37:31.140 --> 03:37:36.140
How much did you memorize the patch when it came out?

03:37:36.140 --> 03:37:37.140
How much time I read it?

03:37:37.140 --> 03:37:38.980
Yeah, how long did you read it?

03:37:38.980 --> 03:37:40.980
How much did you study?

03:37:40.980 --> 03:37:42.980
Not that much actually.

03:37:42.980 --> 03:37:43.980
Great!

03:37:43.980 --> 03:37:44.980
About two hours.

03:37:44.980 --> 03:37:46.980
A few hours doing it.

03:37:46.980 --> 03:37:47.980
Oh, goodness gracious.

03:37:47.980 --> 03:37:49.980
All right, well, we have a challenge for you.

03:37:49.980 --> 03:37:52.980
You have three minutes to guess as many questions as possible

03:37:52.980 --> 03:37:54.980
about the patch.

03:37:54.980 --> 03:37:56.980
It's all about how many, how quick you can do it

03:37:56.980 --> 03:37:58.980
and how correct you are.

03:37:58.980 --> 03:37:59.980
All right.

03:37:59.980 --> 03:38:01.980
Let's do this.

03:38:01.980 --> 03:38:03.980
Unlocked allied heroes.

03:38:03.980 --> 03:38:06.980
Enemy heroes are able to consume items left on the ground

03:38:06.980 --> 03:38:08.980
by a forager's kit.

03:38:08.980 --> 03:38:10.980
True or false?

03:38:10.980 --> 03:38:13.980
A neutral item that you dig around the trees.

03:38:13.980 --> 03:38:16.400
Can enemies eat those things?

03:38:16.400 --> 03:38:18.100
Eat those things? Enemies?

03:38:18.100 --> 03:38:18.620
Uh-huh.

03:38:18.620 --> 03:38:19.740
Mmm...

03:38:19.740 --> 03:38:22.140
No. F-False.

03:38:22.140 --> 03:38:23.300
It's false. It is...

03:38:23.300 --> 03:38:25.180
Blin. Maybe it's true.

03:38:25.180 --> 03:38:26.220
Well, you gotta pick.

03:38:26.220 --> 03:38:28.380
But I know allies cannot eat.

03:38:28.380 --> 03:38:30.140
Allies cannot, but enemies.

03:38:30.140 --> 03:38:31.780
Okay, enemies.

03:38:31.780 --> 03:38:32.820
Mmm...

03:38:32.820 --> 03:38:33.980
Take it a long time with this.

03:38:33.980 --> 03:38:34.780
Okay, let's say true.

03:38:34.780 --> 03:38:35.820
Let's say true?

03:38:35.820 --> 03:38:36.740
Yeah, stay on track.

03:38:36.740 --> 03:38:38.500
Ladies and gentlemen, he clutched it.

03:38:38.500 --> 03:38:39.940
It is true. Enemies can't eat it.

03:38:39.940 --> 03:38:41.260
That was a close one. Alright.

03:38:41.260 --> 03:38:47.420
Prior to 7.41, the Tormentor could deal damage to neutrals, it no longer can. True or false?

03:38:50.060 --> 03:38:57.180
He could deal before the patch. That's right. And it can't anymore. True or false?

03:38:57.980 --> 03:39:04.220
False. False? Yeah. It actually was true. Actually, yes, I could do that. They can't sit.

03:39:04.220 --> 03:39:10.620
Okay. We'll move on. Which one of the heroes did not have their base armor increased by one?

03:39:10.620 --> 03:39:13.740
Terrorblade, Animage, Legion, or Death Prophet?

03:39:13.740 --> 03:39:15.380
All of them did except for one.

03:39:15.380 --> 03:39:18.740
Oh, I think I'll do it for sure, Terrorblade.

03:39:18.740 --> 03:39:19.740
Terrorblade?

03:39:19.740 --> 03:39:22.740
You think it's Terrorblade?

03:39:22.740 --> 03:39:23.740
Yeah, I'll do it.

03:39:23.740 --> 03:39:24.740
I'll do it, yes.

03:39:24.740 --> 03:39:27.240
A lot of people are saying that, no, it's Legion.

03:39:27.240 --> 03:39:28.740
He has so much armor already.

03:39:28.740 --> 03:39:30.140
Alright, moving on.

03:39:30.140 --> 03:39:34.580
Which of the following heroes has the most words on the original update page?

03:39:34.580 --> 03:39:38.540
Tinker, Chen, Rubik, or Dragon Knight?

03:39:38.540 --> 03:39:39.540
The longest description?

03:39:39.540 --> 03:39:40.540
Oh, the description.

03:39:40.540 --> 03:39:42.540
Just the most words

03:39:47.300 --> 03:39:49.540
Man, every one of them is a

03:39:54.940 --> 03:39:56.940
Just a random, let's say

03:40:02.540 --> 03:40:09.100
Okay, let's go for Chen lock and Chen we got a move now those tinker that turns of course all that's great

03:40:09.100 --> 03:40:13.780
Essence Distillers Ground Target Ability cannot reveal which of the following?

03:40:13.780 --> 03:40:18.300
Invis units, wards, smoked units, or units in the fog of war?

03:40:18.300 --> 03:40:20.300
Cannot reveal.

03:40:20.300 --> 03:40:22.300
Yeah, you ever use this item?

03:40:22.300 --> 03:40:24.300
When you press it, cannot reveal.

03:40:24.300 --> 03:40:26.300
It cannot reveal.

03:40:26.300 --> 03:40:28.300
It cannot.

03:40:28.300 --> 03:40:30.300
Only one of these.

03:40:30.300 --> 03:40:32.300
Wards?

03:40:32.300 --> 03:40:34.300
That's correct!

03:40:34.300 --> 03:40:36.300
Wards, well done!

03:40:36.300 --> 03:40:39.460
Which of the following heroes did not receive a change

03:40:39.460 --> 03:40:41.580
in every one of the patches?

03:40:41.580 --> 03:40:43.980
Doom, Tiny, Tinker, or Batrider?

03:40:45.040 --> 03:40:47.740
All these heroes were in every patch except for one.

03:40:52.380 --> 03:40:53.940
Say Tinker?

03:40:53.940 --> 03:40:56.580
No, no, of course not, it wasn't Tinker.

03:40:56.580 --> 03:40:58.220
It was in everything, it was Batrider.

03:40:58.220 --> 03:40:59.900
Last time, can we do it really quick?

03:40:59.900 --> 03:41:02.220
Which of the following heroes cannot miss a pill?

03:41:02.220 --> 03:41:03.060
Leela.

03:41:03.060 --> 03:41:04.380
Leela, no!

03:41:04.380 --> 03:41:06.020
No, right not.

03:41:06.020 --> 03:41:09.040
They changed it, only Winter Driver and cannot miss a pill now.

03:41:09.040 --> 03:41:09.540
Okay.

03:41:09.540 --> 03:41:10.540
You did!

03:41:10.540 --> 03:41:12.540
Not, not uh, not was-

03:41:12.540 --> 03:41:13.740
Yeah, that's okay!

03:41:13.740 --> 03:41:17.780
You know, uh, room for improvement, do you really need to know the patch to be in the player?

03:41:17.780 --> 03:41:20.140
I mean, if it's uh, under Russian language?

03:41:20.140 --> 03:41:22.140
Yeah, okay, then instant.

03:41:22.140 --> 03:41:24.140
Dude, this was just language barrier.

03:41:24.140 --> 03:41:27.140
I will give you 100%, I know how good you are.

03:41:27.140 --> 03:41:30.640
Alright, well thank you for trying, you did an incredible job!

03:41:30.640 --> 03:41:37.640
Ish, let's get over and back to Fijian Balakia season eight.

03:41:37.640 --> 03:41:47.160
Hey, everybody, we are back with Ask the Experts today.

03:41:47.160 --> 03:41:48.160
We have Lacoste.

03:41:48.160 --> 03:41:50.080
What are you going to be sharing with us today?

03:41:50.080 --> 03:41:54.120
We're going to be talking about the five most important buildings on DotaMap.

03:41:54.120 --> 03:41:56.840
Okay, let's start with number five, the least important.

03:41:56.840 --> 03:42:02.720
The building called the building, which is on both sides of Radiant and Dire, the one

03:42:02.720 --> 03:42:04.960
slightly closer to the northeast.

03:42:04.960 --> 03:42:06.240
I like that one in particular.

03:42:06.240 --> 03:42:07.240
Okay, okay.

03:42:07.240 --> 03:42:09.240
So the ones that used to be the shrines when you went to the hill.

03:42:09.240 --> 03:42:11.240
Yeah, the cigarettes, shrines, moon wells, yada, yada.

03:42:11.240 --> 03:42:12.240
It's called building.

03:42:12.240 --> 03:42:13.480
Now, these are kind of important.

03:42:13.480 --> 03:42:16.080
The creeps do hit them instead of towers sometimes.

03:42:16.080 --> 03:42:17.840
Yes, but not as important.

03:42:17.840 --> 03:42:21.840
It's like close to Effigy, which is on fourth place.

03:42:21.840 --> 03:42:22.840
Okay.

03:42:22.840 --> 03:42:23.840
Effigy?

03:42:23.840 --> 03:42:24.840
Yeah.

03:42:24.840 --> 03:42:25.840
Okay, so the Effigy is the fourth place.

03:42:25.840 --> 03:42:32.560
very important building to kill it's like when you kill it it's like you killed the player as well all right cool number three

03:42:32.800 --> 03:42:38.480
Number three we're gonna go with radiant melee barracks the one on the left

03:42:38.480 --> 03:42:46.040
Yeah, this one is like especially important because it is on the left side. Okay, which you know a full players typically will go with

03:42:46.040 --> 03:42:50.680
Well, they will go like from this. Yeah, it depends whether you're left-handed or right-handed

03:42:50.680 --> 03:42:56.160
So like most of the people are right handed so the left the one on the left side makes definitely more of course

03:42:56.160 --> 03:42:59.760
It's the one that typically will do last yeah, so it's the most important for mega creeps

03:42:59.760 --> 03:43:06.080
Absolutely very very true now with that what's number two number two is gonna be the radiant

03:43:06.880 --> 03:43:10.800
Actually dire mid-tier one tower dire mid-tier one tower

03:43:10.800 --> 03:43:17.200
Can you explain that it is very important because it is the first tower that you need to kill when you're playing radiant to be able

03:43:17.200 --> 03:43:19.240
to kill other towers in the mid lane.

03:43:19.240 --> 03:43:20.080
I see.

03:43:20.080 --> 03:43:21.120
And it opens up the jungle.

03:43:21.120 --> 03:43:21.960
Absolutely.

03:43:21.960 --> 03:43:22.800
All right.

03:43:22.800 --> 03:43:25.120
And number one, the most important building on the Dota 2

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event.

03:43:25.960 --> 03:43:27.040
It is going to be ancient.

03:43:27.040 --> 03:43:28.680
This is going to be the realest answer.

03:43:28.680 --> 03:43:31.840
Yeah, if you lose this one, you actually lose the game.

03:43:31.840 --> 03:43:33.560
All right, well, thank you so much.

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Incredible analytical job there.

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Watch those buildings, my friends.

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Protect them.

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and we'll see you next time.

03:43:43.960 --> 03:43:45.960
Hey, everybody, we are asking

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the experts yet again.

03:43:47.960 --> 03:43:49.960
Today, we brought Jenkins for

03:43:49.960 --> 03:43:51.960
top five heroes you might see

03:43:51.960 --> 03:43:53.960
here that you should not play

03:43:53.960 --> 03:43:54.960
in your pubs.

03:43:54.960 --> 03:43:55.960
Maybe Sand King.

03:43:55.960 --> 03:43:56.960
Sand King?

03:43:56.960 --> 03:43:57.960
Yeah.

03:43:57.960 --> 03:43:58.960
Why is that?

03:43:58.960 --> 03:43:59.960
Because...

03:43:59.960 --> 03:44:00.960
Easy one.

03:44:00.960 --> 03:44:02.960
Because pro players are stacking

03:44:02.960 --> 03:44:03.960
camps for you.

03:44:03.960 --> 03:44:04.960
Ah!

03:44:04.960 --> 03:44:05.960
And in pubs, it's just not

03:44:05.960 --> 03:44:06.960
going to happen.

03:44:06.960 --> 03:44:07.960
Okay, okay.

03:44:07.960 --> 03:44:15.660
Um, let's say like Oracle or I'll say Oracle. Yeah, are people picking that here? I think against Batrider

03:44:15.660 --> 03:44:19.380
I see I see. Okay. That's a fair one. That's a rough one

03:44:23.240 --> 03:44:26.220
Let's see, you know, I feel like doom doom

03:44:26.920 --> 03:44:31.140
Doom is kind of hard. Is he you can pick one guy and you kill that guy

03:44:31.300 --> 03:44:37.620
But it's like in competitive you know that there's some like Thai lung or prodigy on the

03:44:37.960 --> 03:44:39.840
You take that very important guy.

03:44:39.840 --> 03:44:40.340
Yeah.

03:44:40.340 --> 03:44:44.620
In pubs, you kind of have to identify who's the guy.

03:44:44.620 --> 03:44:46.580
Sometimes there's two of them, or you don't know,

03:44:46.580 --> 03:44:48.340
because everyone's making stupid mistakes.

03:44:48.340 --> 03:44:48.840
Sure.

03:44:48.840 --> 03:44:52.600
So just killing one guy is you need somebody that can kill

03:44:52.600 --> 03:44:53.200
everyone.

03:44:53.200 --> 03:44:54.520
Great explanation, number two.

03:44:54.520 --> 03:44:56.760
I'll go pick Lone Druid as my second one.

03:44:56.760 --> 03:44:58.080
Yeah, Lone Druid is number two.

03:44:58.080 --> 03:44:58.580
Interesting.

03:44:58.580 --> 03:45:00.160
Why should you not play Lone Druid?

03:45:00.160 --> 03:45:04.640
You should not play Lone Druid, because your team is

03:45:04.640 --> 03:45:06.960
definitely going to report you for being

03:45:06.960 --> 03:45:12.120
a guy that has the main guy somewhere else forming and then the bear killing people.

03:45:12.120 --> 03:45:19.120
Alright, so number one hero that we saw here that you probably shouldn't play at home.

03:45:19.120 --> 03:45:20.120
Pudge.

03:45:20.120 --> 03:45:22.280
Why should you not play Pudge in a pub?

03:45:22.280 --> 03:45:23.700
People are going to do it anyway.

03:45:23.700 --> 03:45:26.400
If you miss your first few hooks, you're fucked.

03:45:26.400 --> 03:45:27.400
It's just over.

03:45:27.400 --> 03:45:31.600
It's like legitimately over and then you're just back to old like F tier Pudge.

03:45:31.600 --> 03:45:34.920
If you're not getting kills and you're not going to get kills and pubs is on that.

03:45:34.920 --> 03:45:38.920
I genuinely think anyone that plays Pudge cares if they miss the first few hooks.

03:45:38.920 --> 03:45:40.920
No, they're doing it all the time.

03:45:40.920 --> 03:45:44.920
Okay, well, the piece was worthless. Thank you guys so much for watching.

03:45:51.920 --> 03:45:54.920
Hey everybody, we are doing Ask the Experts today.

03:45:54.920 --> 03:46:01.920
We have expert cast or Sun's Fan who's going to tell us the top five most entertaining players to watch Dota history.

03:46:01.920 --> 03:46:02.920
Who's number five?

03:46:02.920 --> 03:46:08.280
That's a great question, sir. Action slack. Thank you. Let me think they said that you wouldn't touch me

03:46:08.280 --> 03:46:13.360
Does it need to be in any order? Yes. Number five is the lowest number five is the lowest

03:46:13.360 --> 03:46:16.680
They said you would not all right. I'll pick one current player. Okay

03:46:18.200 --> 03:46:26.380
Go each each player I choose I go higher up on your body go lower Amar is a current player Amar top five

03:46:26.380 --> 03:46:29.000
Yeah, absolutely. He plays the off lane

03:46:29.000 --> 03:46:31.840
Mm-hmm, but he actually plays Kerry doesn't give a shit about his team

03:46:31.840 --> 03:46:34.200
He's like I'm playing Kerry regardless with layman layman

03:46:34.200 --> 03:46:39.840
Yeah, and they actually catered their lineup to him their team to him which is very special Amar is awesome

03:46:39.840 --> 03:46:45.360
He just pop off to very fun to see. Yeah. Yep. Look into the camera instead. No, I want to look at you

03:46:45.360 --> 03:46:50.120
That's very good. Thank you so much. All right. Have a number four number four and no

03:46:51.040 --> 03:46:53.200
See, yeah, we're not gonna add this

03:46:53.200 --> 03:46:54.900
Uh, Kia Taka?

03:46:54.900 --> 03:46:56.000
Kia Taka?

03:46:56.000 --> 03:46:56.700
Yes.

03:46:56.700 --> 03:46:57.400
Hmm, why?

03:46:57.400 --> 03:46:59.700
He is, I'm not gonna name the other player

03:46:59.700 --> 03:47:01.100
because it's my number one.

03:47:01.100 --> 03:47:01.600
Okay.

03:47:01.600 --> 03:47:04.600
But he, you never know what's gonna happen.

03:47:04.600 --> 03:47:06.800
It's either the best thing you've ever seen

03:47:06.800 --> 03:47:08.100
or completely atrocious.

03:47:08.100 --> 03:47:10.100
It's almost like watching a Sir Action Slacks Club.

03:47:10.100 --> 03:47:12.400
You just never know if he's gonna grief

03:47:12.400 --> 03:47:13.400
or win the game for you.

03:47:13.400 --> 03:47:14.800
I actually doesn't really sound like you.

03:47:14.800 --> 03:47:15.300
No, that doesn't-

03:47:15.300 --> 03:47:15.900
You're just the grief.

03:47:15.900 --> 03:47:17.300
That's more of a someone else,

03:47:17.300 --> 03:47:18.900
but I think he might be on the list.

03:47:18.900 --> 03:47:19.800
How's number three?

03:47:19.800 --> 03:47:22.500
Number three would probably be Topson.

03:47:22.500 --> 03:47:27.500
I mean, I remember the Diffusal on Gyrocopter against the Bristleback on Wee and TI, that literally won them the game.

03:47:27.500 --> 03:47:28.500
That was huge.

03:47:28.500 --> 03:47:29.500
That was insane.

03:47:29.500 --> 03:47:30.500
Mm-hmm.

03:47:30.500 --> 03:47:31.500
And number two.

03:47:31.500 --> 03:47:33.500
Sorry, am I taking your job?

03:47:33.500 --> 03:47:35.500
Would you like to say number two?

03:47:35.500 --> 03:47:36.500
And number two.

03:47:36.500 --> 03:47:37.500
And number two.

03:47:37.500 --> 03:47:39.500
I definitely have Miracle.

03:47:39.500 --> 03:47:40.500
Miracle?

03:47:40.500 --> 03:47:43.500
I mean, he might be the greatest player of all time, at least for that span of period that he was actually playing.

03:47:43.500 --> 03:47:45.500
He just pops off all the time.

03:47:45.500 --> 03:47:46.500
Okay.

03:47:46.500 --> 03:47:48.500
Insanely entertaining to watch.

03:47:48.500 --> 03:47:49.500
Mm-hmm.

03:47:49.500 --> 03:47:52.200
insanely entertaining to watch.

03:47:52.200 --> 03:47:55.320
And this is your job.

03:47:55.320 --> 03:47:57.520
All right, great jobs with our Suns Fan,

03:47:57.520 --> 03:47:59.280
but who would you put as number one?

03:47:59.280 --> 03:48:01.080
It's not close, Sir Action Slash.

03:48:01.080 --> 03:48:01.920
Yes, thank you so much.

03:48:01.920 --> 03:48:02.880
And you guessed who my number one is.

03:48:02.880 --> 03:48:05.840
Suns Fan TV, I think I do know who your number one is.

03:48:05.840 --> 03:48:08.160
My number one is Eternal Envy.

03:48:08.160 --> 03:48:09.000
Of course.

03:48:09.000 --> 03:48:13.160
The most hilarious personality in the history of Dota.

03:48:13.160 --> 03:48:16.520
He gets, he puts energy drinks on people's heads.

03:48:16.520 --> 03:48:17.560
You never know if his, well,

03:48:17.560 --> 03:48:20.920
His games always went 60 plus minutes, fell out of chairs.

03:48:20.920 --> 03:48:23.160
Absolutely, just hilarious in all fronts.

03:48:23.160 --> 03:48:24.760
Do not follow him on Twitter.

03:48:24.760 --> 03:48:27.800
It is actually horrific to see what he's been posting.

03:48:27.800 --> 03:48:28.300
OK.

03:48:28.300 --> 03:48:30.760
But apparently he's very rich now.

03:48:30.760 --> 03:48:32.840
Well, rich in mind and spirit as well.

03:48:32.840 --> 03:48:33.640
Thank you so much.

03:48:33.640 --> 03:48:34.160
Thank you.

03:48:34.160 --> 03:48:34.800
Thank you.

03:48:34.800 --> 03:48:35.300
Hey.

03:48:35.300 --> 03:48:36.320
That's just like thank you.

03:48:36.320 --> 03:48:37.560
Thank you for coming.

03:48:37.560 --> 03:48:38.240
Thank you.

03:48:38.240 --> 03:48:39.000
Thank you.

03:48:39.000 --> 03:48:41.920
And thank you, dear viewer, for making it through this piece.

03:48:41.920 --> 03:48:43.520
That's as good.

03:48:43.520 --> 03:48:44.520
Bye.

03:48:44.520 --> 03:49:09.160
I'm not sure if this really was buffed, but Alchemist looks really strong right now.

03:49:09.160 --> 03:49:10.800
Club kind of buff, I think.

03:49:10.800 --> 03:49:12.000
Wow, really?

03:49:12.000 --> 03:49:12.520
Yeah.

03:49:12.520 --> 03:49:13.120
Why?

03:49:13.120 --> 03:49:14.600
Scream got just buffed.

03:49:14.600 --> 03:49:16.040
Just from the icing buff.

03:49:16.040 --> 03:49:19.080
It is probably top damage in every single game, right?

03:49:19.080 --> 03:49:20.520
Yeah, it's a good one.

03:49:20.520 --> 03:49:23.000
Biggest buff, I guess, Phoenix,

03:49:23.000 --> 03:49:25.440
because it's the most broken hero right now.

03:49:25.440 --> 03:49:26.680
Everyone's banning it.

03:49:26.680 --> 03:49:27.360
That's true.

03:49:27.360 --> 03:49:30.280
It's my hero, so it's good.

03:49:30.280 --> 03:49:32.320
I can tell a couple heroes.

03:49:32.320 --> 03:49:35.200
If you got the most buffed, it's Alchemist and Fungalier.

03:49:35.200 --> 03:49:36.200
Oh, thanks.

03:49:36.200 --> 03:49:38.080
It's like the most broken heroes right now.

03:49:38.080 --> 03:49:40.720
Hangalir, you think is one of the most broken ones?

03:49:40.720 --> 03:49:42.680
It's like, should I speak hero?

03:49:42.680 --> 03:49:44.000
Because it's not a farm.

03:49:44.000 --> 03:49:45.040
Maybe a lot of go.

03:49:45.040 --> 03:49:47.240
Oh, that's an answer.

03:49:47.240 --> 03:49:48.200
Just not that much.

03:49:48.200 --> 03:49:49.280
Yeah.

03:49:49.280 --> 03:49:52.720
Most nerf, I would say Warlock.

03:49:52.720 --> 03:49:55.040
I don't see this hero in my games anymore.

03:49:55.040 --> 03:49:57.560
Come on, come on, Kaori's still spamming that thing, you know?

03:49:57.560 --> 03:49:59.320
Hero spammers are still doing it.

03:49:59.320 --> 03:50:00.920
There's got to be someone worse.

03:50:02.840 --> 03:50:03.520
It's Warlock.

03:50:03.520 --> 03:50:04.200
Okay, okay.

03:50:04.200 --> 03:50:05.760
I think Kaori's playing right now.

03:50:05.760 --> 03:50:10.460
Haskra, he's still good, but this passive, he can't face it anymore.

03:50:10.460 --> 03:50:10.960
Sure.

03:50:10.960 --> 03:50:13.760
He cannot push, so a bit nervous.

03:50:13.760 --> 03:50:16.360
A bit biased coming from your guys' team, though, huh?

03:50:16.360 --> 03:50:17.560
Yeah, maybe.

03:50:17.560 --> 03:50:18.160
Maybe.

03:50:18.160 --> 03:50:20.160
The worst hero I think is Tinker.

03:50:20.160 --> 03:50:20.760
Tinker?

03:50:20.760 --> 03:50:22.360
Yeah, Tinker is dead.

03:50:22.360 --> 03:50:24.660
Oh, but we saw so much Tinker.

03:50:24.660 --> 03:50:26.660
Your turrets could be pretty good, huh?

03:50:26.660 --> 03:50:27.760
No, I don't think so.

03:50:27.760 --> 03:50:30.960
I think the problem of this hero is his matrix,

03:50:30.960 --> 03:50:33.060
because it's unreal to kill this hero,

03:50:33.060 --> 03:50:36.460
and now you can just full commit and kill him.

03:50:36.460 --> 03:50:38.580
Well, if anybody knows it's you, sounds good.

03:50:38.580 --> 03:50:39.580
Great answers.

03:50:39.580 --> 03:50:51.740
Welcome to the Grand Finals of PJ Malachia Season 8.

03:50:51.740 --> 03:50:54.540
We got Betboom and Aurora waiting in the wings

03:50:54.540 --> 03:50:57.540
to play a one best of five to decide which one of these two

03:50:57.540 --> 03:50:59.300
teams is the best.

03:50:59.300 --> 03:51:01.580
So we got a lot to talk about with these two teams.

03:51:01.580 --> 03:51:05.700
for that. We got a lot of analysts sitting on the couch. I know there's three this time

03:51:05.700 --> 03:51:10.380
around. We got LaCoste, we got Tigo, and we got Jenkins in the middle as well. Good evening

03:51:10.380 --> 03:51:12.780
slash afternoon, guys. How are we doing, LaCoste?

03:51:12.780 --> 03:51:16.440
Great to be here with my old friends. I'm hijacking the introduction, even though she

03:51:16.440 --> 03:51:20.600
said your name. Yeah, I mean, you already talked. Usually, we do like the new panelists

03:51:20.600 --> 03:51:23.780
need to say something. Doing good. She ever back to you. How did they know to put the

03:51:23.780 --> 03:51:27.740
name plates this way? Did you go tell them? You guys were going to show up early, sit

03:51:27.740 --> 03:51:31.180
on the side. So I have to sit in the middle on this goddamn small, tiny couch.

03:51:31.180 --> 03:51:36.240
you are a guest the evening please just that's where all the players get to sit

03:51:36.240 --> 03:51:40.060
that's called that's the seat of honor the important that's true you're right

03:51:40.060 --> 03:51:48.780
oh good anyway just a little disturbing so good we'll get over it Tigo traumatized

03:51:48.780 --> 03:51:53.340
for life potentially let's focus our attention on the two teams that are in

03:51:53.340 --> 03:51:57.520
this grand finals bedroom of course let's focus on them first they made it

03:51:57.520 --> 03:52:01.100
through the upper bracket while facing Aurora so that match has already happened

03:52:01.100 --> 03:52:09.100
But they have not dropped a single series this entire Wallachia Jenkins, that's crazy.

03:52:09.100 --> 03:52:18.100
Yeah, I mean, that's very unlike their previous Grand Finals performance that we saw in the Wallachia that they did win,

03:52:18.100 --> 03:52:25.100
where they almost didn't even make it through the group stage, and it was like, you know, they had to upgrade the entire time.

03:52:25.100 --> 03:52:30.100
Whereas I feel like this one has been a little bit more steady for Betboom, where they just, they came into this looking like the best team.

03:52:30.100 --> 03:52:35.060
team and they had slight, you know, upgrades and tweaks here and there, but they were just the

03:52:35.060 --> 03:52:40.740
best the entire time. It feels like they're the ones to throw this tournament away. Aurora,

03:52:41.300 --> 03:52:46.740
this is the final boss for them. Yeah, and Bedboom in the grand finals, Lacoste, is,

03:52:48.340 --> 03:52:53.220
is it common? Would you consider it common? Yeah, it's a pretty common occurring, I would say,

03:52:53.220 --> 03:52:59.780
especially because this team they have been as an org relatively long in the Dota scene as well,

03:52:59.780 --> 03:53:07.380
but yeah, we can maybe check the results that they did have because when this team does show up in the grand finals,

03:53:08.260 --> 03:53:16.420
usually they don't tend to win because, but if you see one little logo, one little green logo, they're out of the equation.

03:53:16.580 --> 03:53:23.460
They lost multiple times. This is five, four times that we're talking about, but they did manage to win Malachi a season five

03:53:24.180 --> 03:53:28.340
and they managed to win Fissure Universe and Blastlam won. This was pretty much the beginning.

03:53:28.340 --> 03:53:33.940
People were very critical about this team unable to win a tournament and after winning that blast slam number one

03:53:34.100 --> 03:53:40.340
It seems like they were relieved a lot of pressure. Yeah, it also seems like if it's not falcons

03:53:40.420 --> 03:53:46.900
Hey, they're okay. Do you think they actually think about that like when falcons gets eliminated?

03:53:46.900 --> 03:53:51.060
There's that breath of like sigh of relief that genuinely happen

03:53:51.060 --> 03:53:56.200
No, no, no, no, no, because I think but you will remember this teagov because at the blast where they won their first grand finals

03:53:56.200 --> 03:54:01.960
saved it an interview and he's like it's nice winning is nice but it would have

03:54:01.960 --> 03:54:05.040
been better if they won versus Falcons they want to beat Falcons in the

03:54:05.040 --> 03:54:07.800
Grand Finals. I mean not only do they want to beat Falcons in the Grand Finals

03:54:07.800 --> 03:54:11.240
but they also want to consistently make Grand Finals they have been kind of a

03:54:11.240 --> 03:54:15.640
confused organization where every year you're like this is meant to be one of

03:54:15.640 --> 03:54:19.680
the best teams in the region and like they have to you they get top three top

03:54:19.680 --> 03:54:23.120
four like we saw in the graphic they bomb out of a lot of Grand Finals so

03:54:23.120 --> 03:54:30.480
they've never still like locked in an entire year to be there. Yeah, I think they'll be happy to get a final win before we enter

03:54:30.480 --> 03:54:34.160
You know the TI season it's just been just confusing in general for them

03:54:34.160 --> 03:54:41.780
Yeah, it's a little bit of a new leaf potentially for Bed Boom because a player that they have not had that success with yet

03:54:41.780 --> 03:54:45.680
Is Kirtich. Kirtich has been doing fantastic here at Wallachia

03:54:45.680 --> 03:54:51.680
He has been the standout player in a lot of the games we've seen here Lacoste

03:54:51.680 --> 03:54:59.200
Yeah, he's been popping off completely like he is the guy that has a lot of records broken at this tournament

03:54:59.200 --> 03:55:05.020
He has the highest amount of kills least deaths as well just averaging slightly above 2 which is pretty insane

03:55:05.020 --> 03:55:07.100
And also tower damage a minute

03:55:07.100 --> 03:55:10.760
He's the one who is the siege it has a lot of seeding potential and also

03:55:10.760 --> 03:55:16.140
I think this is very important to damage taken per minute like every minute on average

03:55:16.140 --> 03:55:20.540
He takes like 600 damage because he's like he's soaking up a lot

03:55:20.540 --> 03:55:25.960
But he's also not dying which comes down to two supports that they are playing with always kind of playing around

03:55:26.020 --> 03:55:30.620
Curitage and also comes down to his hero for what he's been playing so far. You know what stat was not on that graphic

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Win rate in interviews

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The best interview and this has been

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Unfortunately, not been I think that boom has been good at like this

03:55:42.180 --> 03:55:45.620
Actually, they're not very good at turning up for them. Yeah, they don't even should be for

03:55:46.140 --> 03:55:50.540
So, Kiritic should be being a breath of fresh air with interviews for Becklands. That's nice.

03:55:50.540 --> 03:55:55.020
But it is nice. And Kiritic, we've seen him here a lot and in a lot of the

03:55:55.020 --> 03:56:00.540
statistics popping up on the top, of course. But in terms of his career, how have we seen him

03:56:00.540 --> 03:56:04.540
throughout his career take-up? Honestly, a little turbulent, right? I think there's a lot of

03:56:04.540 --> 03:56:08.540
historical Eastern European carries that have made their mark in the scene. But, you know,

03:56:08.540 --> 03:56:13.820
ever since joining the VP 2023 era, his best placement was 7th to 8th. He was moved to the

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the inactive roster of VP, an organization that has been struggling since, you know,

03:56:17.940 --> 03:56:23.300
the legacy days. Then he got picked up from BB yet to win a tournament, but holding down

03:56:23.300 --> 03:56:29.000
multiple second, third, fourth place placements, especially when prior he would barely even

03:56:29.000 --> 03:56:33.180
break into top eight. I feel like he is really becoming a carry player, one that we can talk

03:56:33.180 --> 03:56:37.620
about at being, you know, a notable from the region. If he wins the tournament here, this

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is like the start of what, you know, of his career, basically.

03:56:42.340 --> 03:56:46.060
Is that graphic including the second place that was Dream League, right?

03:56:46.060 --> 03:56:48.060
Yeah, that's what the...

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Where he stood in, and I think everyone had really high expectations for Kiritich after

03:56:53.420 --> 03:56:54.420
that.

03:56:54.420 --> 03:56:55.420
You know, nobody knew.

03:56:55.420 --> 03:56:58.540
He would like eventually join the team, but people were like, oh, this guy's good.

03:56:58.540 --> 03:57:00.500
Like he's going to end up on a good team.

03:57:00.500 --> 03:57:05.420
So it is nice to see them in Grand Finals, like post that period just because it's like

03:57:05.420 --> 03:57:07.220
they have the Kiritich factor.

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I think this is the most stable the team has looked compared to like crazy carries that

03:57:11.980 --> 03:57:16.380
they did have on the team, like we're going to be seeing, you know, nightfall, prime nightfall now,

03:57:16.380 --> 03:57:21.660
they had pure, they had like even Kiyotaka on the team from the mid lane, like just, yeah,

03:57:21.660 --> 03:57:26.860
they're just like crazy, crazy players that did have on the team. And I think so far we've seen

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them being the most stable and that's one of the reasons why they're doing so good.

03:57:29.660 --> 03:57:33.980
Yeah, and at that time when Kiyotaka was standing in for BedBoom, we heard the other players of

03:57:33.980 --> 03:57:38.860
BedBoom talking about how positive he was. And surely that has contributed to potentially the

03:57:38.860 --> 03:57:45.100
stable factor that Beppum has put to life here too in the Lachy season 8, not dropping a single series.

03:57:45.100 --> 03:57:52.060
They are the ultimate rape boss to defeat and Aurora has failed to do so already yesterday.

03:57:52.060 --> 03:57:57.020
Now they're going to get a second chance. They just came off a 2-0 win this morning,

03:57:57.020 --> 03:58:02.780
so momentum is on their side. Do you want to focus on them when we are moving towards the grand

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finals here TGov? Speaking of Aurora, what is the main thing you're going to look out for with this squad?

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I think it's just respecting the lanes against baby. We every time you talk about this team no matter what iteration of roster

03:58:14.780 --> 03:58:19.540
It's their efficiency in lanes breaking down mid utilizing GPK with keratich on the roster

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He's like flexible carry that he doesn't mind if he's left alone for a bit

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Because you know, he's gonna have the right mentality and yesterday for like Aurora

03:58:25.980 --> 03:58:29.300
They got ran over too much in the laning phase like that game three draft as well

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It was like a huskar lane a backrider lane and a monkey lane like three calls that in the right matchups can dump

03:58:35.540 --> 03:58:40.020
They're a laning I was close it wasn't even close. Yeah, so be ready to respect the lanes

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That's for Aurora to be competitive for me

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That's something that I find very exciting about that boom is that they can have like we looked at their history

03:58:48.580 --> 03:58:55.800
There are high expectations when it comes to this team, but not that many grand finals that they can turn around from that and then look

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So insanely dominant like GBK on the Huskar

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It wasn't just he got farmed. He won the lane that guy was diving tier threes at like 12 minutes in he was

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fearless and to be able to go from

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tournaments where you're not doing so well to

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A tournament where all of a sudden you feel like you're acting like a god amongst men. It's like

03:59:16.900 --> 03:59:20.020
To get that confidence because you just know that you're applying really well

03:59:20.180 --> 03:59:24.660
It's it's nice to see because I feel like then all of us can like you can just hit prime and then all of a sudden

03:59:24.980 --> 03:59:27.380
Everything is looking good for you. You know, it's a nice storyline

03:59:27.380 --> 03:59:34.380
It is a nice story. Another storyline that was alive and has been very much alive. Whenever we see Aurora play is Mikoto's puck.

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We've seen it a lot the cost and various degrees of success. It does lose here and there depending on the priority they put on it.

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But how are we going to judge Mikoto on this best of five?

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Oh, I think he's going to get a lot of priority when it comes down to hero because he did not lose a single game.

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game. Maybe he did actually, he did lose one game, but it does look like whenever he picks it,

03:59:58.660 --> 04:00:03.780
especially like in the second and third phase, the win rate just gets higher and higher, but we

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also saw priority shift, picking up Queen of Pain early, not just them, but some other teams as well,

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has a variety of the heroes that he does play, even though we are seeing a meta where if you don't

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pick like the Giga laners, you're not going to be doing as good, but the hero pools are kind of

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small compared to maybe some like other previous batch that loss by the way is

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against GBK Huskar so yes yes to me it like a puck versus Huskar loss is kind

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of like does that count that's more like a Huskar win than a puck loss yeah it

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counts when you you know if you win the tournament and he's like oh well they

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won with the Huskar like they still won the tournament that's true that does

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count that does count and I'm kind of not worried about that graphic but

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Makoto when you look at his hairball he looks like an honest mid-laner you look at

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him and go you know what I'm a clean boy clean land you know respectable GBK

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You know if he gets a bit more picked priority. Yeah, what can I do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah

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Gotta think about that as well. Yeah, this maybe you got a fight fire with fire at some point Mikoto has to you know

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Take a step

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Step in a different direction potentially speaking of stepping into directions Aurora has been stepping into grand final territory

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I feel like this grand final for them was

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In the making at the start of the year they suffered a little bit

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They had to play with multiple standards as in one tournament with one player stand and then the next with someone else

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That was replaced in the next it was a little bit of an unfortunate situation

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And then when they came together all five

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It started really kicking off and I feel like Jenkins

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We've been steadily moving towards seeing Aurora have more and more success leading to this grand finals

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We have it's exciting to finally see them here because they've had good like other tournaments other major tournaments

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But in Milwaukee is like if they lost right now like

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and I'm like, oh, three, this is their best result.

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If they lost the previous series,

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this is their best result.

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They've been like seven through eight

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that most Wolokias, I think fifth through sixth

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was their best, maybe in like a lot of...

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They came second in the previous Dream League, right?

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In the previous Dream League.

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Other tournaments, other tournaments they've done well,

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but not in Wolokias.

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And I feel like this is the tournament

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where we discovered Aurora.

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Like this is where they first started flying as this roster.

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And you wanna see that come full circle almost.

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You really do. And it is potentially a good thing that they already faced Betboom yesterday.

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Because normally you get to learn a lot from beating or being beaten by a team. Apologies.

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Makes me wonder. I mean, it was three full games. It was long games too.

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There was a lot of things revealed, potentially Tiga. What was it to learn from a series like that?

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Do you think that this best of five will basically be continuing as an eight-game series?

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Oh, yeah, 100%. I'm expecting this to be like one 60-minute game, I think, between both of these teams.

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Whenever you see them play, there is that late-game potential, even in the last game, right,

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when Aurora has the nightfall void, right? It's like kind of back and forth, and it's like,

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don't worry guys, I'm hitting 25, and then it's like, that's when they truly get online.

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So I am expecting this to be just an absolute slugfest to get themselves into a grand final position.

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Well, then it's a good thing that both teams have access to a good coach because they will come in clutch and situations like these Lacostes and a little bit of limelight on KP perhaps is in order.

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Yeah, I mean, this is the guy that we don't talk too much about when we talk about their success because he has been like this is the TI grand finalist that we're talking about with Newby back in the days had some like really good results as a player, but also as a coach.

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coach like if we look at his results something that he managed to achieve is he was he kind of

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started coaching in 2024 when he was a team liquid assistant coach and he got a first place at

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Valakia season three Valakia season four as well and also he won a TI with him so pretty big results

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coming out from him and then he joined Aurora as a head coach as the main guy that is in the boot

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with them and ever since then, this was since October 2025, he managed to get the second

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place at DreamLeague Season 28, so that was his best result with the team and they're

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yet to win like one big tournament now as a squad.

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That's the thing right, when you see you know BB on screen, they're the ones that have won

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the tournament before as an organization, players have been able to lift trophies and

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then you look towards Aurora, it's like Makoto yet to win his tournament, WS yet to win his

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tournament as a head coach from KP, also yet to secure a head coach tournament win, so

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It really feels like a lot of firsts on the side of Aurora versus like, you know,

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another day in the office from BB, like we're meant to be winning tournaments.

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But, you know, maybe it's not as consistent, but there is a little bit of a

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difference between both of these teams in the grand final.

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Yeah, that it's a very interesting issue.

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Like I would say that's a contentious issue.

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It depends on who you ask in the personality of the people that you're

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talking about, but like what wins momentum and wanting something really,

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really badly or being objective and not emotional. You know, I think the virtue often lies between

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two extremes and it's probably you need a little bit of both. He has a ripped back.

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That is incredible. He has to carry his team. Keep it up, Miro. Oh my God. It's ranked six

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in the world off lane. He's got a, this guy does, this guy does back exercise. I'll say

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the obvious one. He's been carrying BB for a very long time and it only makes sense.

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I don't remember what the fuck I was saying.

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Well, I do want to touch upon something because we talk about how for Aurora, maybe they lack a little bit of experience in closing out a grand finals or a tournament even at that.

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There's one person that's on your screen right now that has got a lot of experience doing that, two TI champion Mira on the squad.

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UTI champion, Mira on the squad.

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How do we feel his experience will impact the team here?

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Can you think he can like spread some of the consistency?

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Yeah, I feel like-

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Confidence?

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The fact that you have a player like Mira on your team

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is exceptional, but also the previous point you made about

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or the idea of like them having the stand-ins

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and this kind of like up and down roster situation they've had,

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that really forges a team to truly know

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what they want to do in Dota

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and to have success with these stand-ins,

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to have Mira constantly on all these versions of the team,

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like when you get to these moments, like guys,

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we're here after all of this like turmoil,

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like we are meant to be a tournament winning team.

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So I feel for them, they probably don't even think

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about the idea of the pressure, it's just,

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no, we're good, we can't beat BB,

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we're gonna play some Dota, win three games,

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and then, you know, that's it.

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Yeah, everybody wants to win, of course,

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for their own reasons.

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I think for Nightfall, when winning,

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just for the sake of winning is nice.

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But winning, because on the other side,

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you want to surpass potentially your maker, that is an extra level that Jenkins.

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We got a Sasuke and a Tachi type situation here.

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Yeah, whatever that is, but I agree.

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That's a big brother, younger brother type situation where I'm not going to spoil what

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happens in the end, but one of them dies.

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A bit of a rivalry there, one of them dies.

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Bulk got Nightfall into Dota.

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He credited him in the interview that we did literally like an hour ago with getting

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him on to VP, believing in him, teaching him everything there is to know about Dota, and

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then Nightfall, the little birdie, went off and flew the nest, went off onto his own

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teams, and they've never met in a Grand Finals now, so there's just a little bit of more

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added pressure for Nightfall.

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We've seen him have this metamorphosis into Nightfall Prime, but this means more than

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just that to him.

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Yeah, I wonder how that translates into the gameplay.

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I also want to bring up something once again if you've been listening to the whole event to every panel

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We've seen with caretich and nightfall in particular

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You would have heard this story before but caretich that nightfall is the best carry

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Not that it is tournament

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So who will get the goat trophy who is the goat to carry it built such a good storyline as well because you know caretich

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We also saw some of the stats where he's breaking the records as well

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And you know, he is at this tournament as well making sure that

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He might be the best carry player of the tournament and we can see the heroes that they've been playing so far

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Something that nightfall doesn't play is Kez. He has zero professional games on Kez and on the other side

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Curitich he doesn't play laundry at least he hasn't shown it yet

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So here a pull for nightfall has been pretty small like you know what's coming especially this Ursa

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They showed it multiple times especially in 18

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I believe they also opened in one of the games straight away on nine when they were playing against par vision as a response to

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Phoenix and it looked extremely well as well

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So I want to see if that's also going to be bumped into priority

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Well, there's one thing that might be a very high on the priority list T gov as we do have a

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Lot of numbers to show you with one clear winner. Is that a is that a thing?

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Was that was that where this was going? There's a lot of numbers. It is a lot of numbers

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But I just want to show you some damage right the average game at Vali has been 42 minutes ignoring the last best of three

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We just watch and the reason why we see certain here is have priority in draft is not a damage

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They bring in look at the top two Queen of pain 40 nearly 45,000 Phoenix the post five thirty nine thousand

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You move towards the bottom of the top ten first was only got 25,000

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Like there is a clear reason why you see these heroes getting picked and have such high value in the draft

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Because by the end by game end they're doing like double damage to other heroes. It's truly insane

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Yeah, Queen of Pain, she goes brrrrrr

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It's pretty much every single game that we see her play

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I don't think I've seen a bad Queen of Pain game to be honest

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We'll see how much priority the teams will put on that hero

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We are in the draft of game number one and for this game

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It's Bedroom on the rating side Aurora on the dire side first pick went the way of Aurora already

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And that means Bedroom has overall last pick and second pick

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I just want to throw some extra weight into this Grand Finals, right?

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We spoke about Kiritich being able to maybe lock in his first win for BB.

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You look at Nightfall's career, right?

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A player that has been multiple Grand Finals, top sixes, and everyone's, you know, thoughts

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about being a strong carry player.

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The last time he won a Tier 1 tournament, his only Tier 1 tournament was an online event

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in 2020 when he's 3-2-B-O-G.

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But it's online.

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Does that really count?

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Exactly.

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2020 was COVID?

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But the point is, when you think about his player, I kind of blindly assumed he's probably got one under the belt, if at least one.

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He hasn't got any LAN wins.

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Perfect LAN wins, yeah. That's crazy actually.

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But it is a first for either Keratich or Nightful. Of course other players in the mix, Makoto, WS, there's many other players, but I think just for Nightful, just to be able to get himself a win.

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Especially because every team he's played on since VP, he's tried to be the leader of the team.

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This is my dota. Come join my roster. I'm night full. I'm gonna be the next guy

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He's yet to become the next guy. It's like the ultimate way to prove that your ideas are correct

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To be the one that's captaining the team and it's everyone's playing your idea and then the team gets first

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It means like you were right and everybody else is wrong

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I mean who at some point didn't want that

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You know to prove that about something it's been like a six year test of is he right? Yeah

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At least one of the answer I guess and he might be yeah, we'll see

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But maybe maybe he needs to keep learning his lessons from bulk. This will be another lesson. That's true

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It could just be one other step towards his path to greatness. Maybe down the line. Maybe next for lucky

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No, all right. We got the the pangol. We got second-phase puck band second phase house

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Govan as well windranger coming out on the side of that boom and a love this hero

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I think I love this hero in the hands of same. Yeah, I think for them. This is just position four

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I don't think they want to flex this, even though we saw other teams play it from the carry role, especially Team Liquid.

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But, save, he just does so many things. Like, he's playing super aggressive.

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If you remember one of those clips from the other day, where he was chasing Tiny underneath the tier 3 tower, 10 minutes in,

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when he is diving behind tier 2 tower, 5, 6 minutes in, and also putting a lot of pressure when they were playing against Terrorblade,

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like completely zoning him out out of the lane, 3 minutes in.

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three minutes in, so they know how to play aggressive. This has been VB's strength throughout

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the whole tournament. I want to see what the response is going to be, knowing that this

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is coming.

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It's a nice nightfall too, picking the Windrunner carry. He's been one of the few carries that

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has been still playing it a lot. I love the quad matchup into Windrunner. I think that's

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really good.

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The damage speaks for itself, Makoto though. 0-2 on the hero compared to the other greats

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that we've seen in the tournament. But I'd argue in those two losses, we're probably not

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not looking towards Makoto being the problem, there's other factors there.

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I like the Oracle ban, I think for Aurora, the room control was really useful in the

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upper bracket, after free. Being able to already be there, we say BB is one of the best early

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game support teams, you have an Oracle in the mix, you're always going to be able to

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one up. Just getting rid of that.

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They abuse that better than any other team. For some reason it's weird because this, like

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It has been in the game for so long, but I feel like I remember there was one series last Wallachia where one game last Wallachia

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Where GPK got like 17 out of the 18 runes in the the entire series or something like that some crazy

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Ratio, and it was you know partly because of the Oracle

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Rorather they are going to be just menaces in the landing phase right great a pain we know she'll find mid warlock

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It has lost favor from other supports, but Kory

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But I feel like every time I watch him play he has one fatal bomb creep wave kill per laning phase

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Like he just like surprised that what this damage like from wallop's been like prevalent for like a year if not longer

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Why are people still getting surprised by his damage? Yes, well, he's high level Dota plus. So it doesn't extra

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I want to see I want to see if they go for the silencer route something that has been like both of the teams would have a way

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of resetting the fight. On one side you have Queen of Pain Alti and Warlock Golem. They've been a big

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fan of Silencer. He also played Wyvern multiple times just showing that they value that. And

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okay, so it's going to be not too much teamfight coming out from BedBoom Team at the moment,

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but also I think what they're planning to do is they're leaving these beefy boys in the pool,

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something like a Tidehunter. You know Nightfall he loves to pick Ursa on 18 and when you pick

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Morta, he can't really do that, so it does allow you, because of the carry-to-carry matchup,

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and it does allow you to maybe get the overall better team-fighting ulti coming up from that 24.

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Is this one of the most flexible drafts you've ever seen? I know it's bedroom, so we kind of know

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where everybody's going to go, but overall...

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I think just, there is flexible, but I feel like we kind of know where everything's going, right?

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It's like the only major flex I see here is the pangor to mid to offlane, everything else is somewhat

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Yes, they are just showing that they want to have high damage in that laning phase and enter the game

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But here is like silence on other heroes might have been okay in lane

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But the post lane they could feel a little bit more lost in the game

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BB does not want to feel lost at all like we've already mentioned that Aurora

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They take a bit of time sometimes to get their items they play for comeback even in the series where they had like the tiny

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It's like they had what three kills for a long time and suddenly it's like a competitive mid to late game, right?

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Like maybe we'll have to break Aurora before they get get there. Yeah, I'm just gonna say this right now

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I don't care what the last two picks are if this game goes late Aurora wins hands down

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Co-op void there are so few things in Dota that can beat this in the late game

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Like that booms got to hit the the early game timing that the tee is talking about for sure

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There's also the potential of I don't know some laning cheese like just win in laning face

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They've had the 24 picks so you can you can always do that. They're worried about the tied off

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What for Miro could they pick that's like super cheesy in the off lane?

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I mean off lane now

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It's like the you have a go for the big team fight that just makes tight avoid not do any damage

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Like the tie that they banned or you go for like the I'm a fan of go go

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I'm a big fan of dawn breaker. Maybe I didn't mention tied earlier just to break the team fight because right now

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They don't have much this is also a good option

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extra bit of a lockdown for just the start of fight and then you have this insane amount of damage coming out from

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Muerta, Tag Team, always going to be very good. They have extra bit of a save coming out.

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These are not the easiest heroes to kill, and they might not have the most HP,

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but they're like Muerta, Ulti, Windranger, Pango is also pretty elusive, and then you also have Tusk with the Snowball.

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I'd like to raise you, of course. Yeah, and I'd like to play the Enigma card.

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the game, but I'm just thinking of that, that pacing that's why I love the suggestion, but

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I'm trying to pace. I like the idea. It's it's a pipe pipe. It's an interesting gambit because

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like you said, the black holes will get harder and harder to cast late game. They're playing

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against two a way BKB piercing disables, but it does give them the timing. Dawn is more

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Or you actually could maybe go late and protect against the faceless void chrono by dawn ulting

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into it.

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Like you could maybe save muerta through that and then she pops the ulti.

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They both apply the same amount of pressure but like dawn is like mid to late game pressure

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or snigma is early to mid game pressure in this draft right due to the optimization.

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I want to see some spell damage, some betrider maybe even timber that something that your

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muerta is going to be afraid of throughout the whole game.

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You have good amount, you have also insane amount of spells that you can throw inside

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the chrono from the distance, like Sharpshooter, Sonicway on top of that.

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It does feel good, their overwhelming teamfight is very hard to match.

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I want to see how that boom is going to approach this problem, because as Jenkins was pointing

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out, if this game goes late, then we saw the average game time so far at Valakia is over

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40 minutes.

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This is considered to be a late game, like their teamfight just looks too good.

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You just need WS to find an offlane that absorbs time.

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All the heroes that you're mentioning in my head, it's like, they're going to eat 20

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minutes of the game to do that, and they are one of the few teams that still reliably

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pick Lago because they're getting kills in the lane.

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They're not a farming offlane Lago team.

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They are a, we're going to get two, three kills with Lago in the laning phase.

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We get the card, the axe.

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He was on the damage graphic that we saw earlier, or at least he was in the top 12, so maybe

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he was on the fringe of the graphic, but still it is croak with Queen of Pain.

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Yeah, that's possible.

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Little combinations the boomerang is all from hoodwink. They have the damage

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Also, if they are afraid of too much healing doom is just shuts down

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Largo shuts down both of the cores as well pretty much all three cores doom sounds really good actually

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With doom, do you not forgo on the whole early game timing thing then you do but but then I think you have the potential late game

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Timing too and then the mid to late game also like you're pacing

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Once he gets a double devourer once he gets some items like doom can

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Hey, the timing just because he has a lot of net worth advantage.

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It's also a game where the first four heroes make so much noise that the Doom can just become like the carry from the off lane, right?

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Like he doesn't have to join the fights. He can just join the ones he wants, but they do go for the...

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Oh, that's cool. That is cool.

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So they are trying to up the pace of this game.

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I mean, I'm a big fan of it. Like I really wanted to see the Enigma and I'm just looking at like, don't allow Nightfall into that lane, all right?

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If he gets to farm a battle fury, if he has to farm the Helm of Dome because he's that type of a void player,

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He will then kind of extra little bit go. Oh god 20 minutes into the game

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How do we stop him like stop him's farm take the early towers and even in the previous series?

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He actually struggled against the like early lane pressure that came out of Amar on ass

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And I feel like a nigma can kind of do the same thing to void with the idol on so you can slowly chip him down

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We had to listen and though he said you know you guys keep doing your own thing

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I'm gonna recover and the recover he did because he kind of carried the game as well from this faceless void

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He is the ultimate carry, but yeah, I think Enigma fits in real nicely for BedBoom team.

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It's sure you have a cancel with the Warlock's Golem, but it's not too crazy.

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You don't necessarily need to play off of your Black all the whole time.

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It gives them extra bit of a teamfight that they needed, and everything else,

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like two supports that can rotate early. You're never going to be lacking damage.

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And Warta, speaking of damage, this is one of the highest damage dealing carries in the game.

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It just gets ridiculous at the later stages.

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I just, I had the realization it's like Warlock doesn't counter enigma if it's Kaori Warlock

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because the Golem is all, it's all used.

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But also if the Golem is hitting the enigma then surely someone on BB's failed to do that

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job right?

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They have so many ways to find heroes, Warlock has to be found to enable Miro in the middle

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of the game.

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That's true.

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Hypothetically, but it's Kaori in Miro.

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You're by Blink Dagger.

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Yeah, these guys are just very unique Dota players in their own right.

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From you guys' way of talking about this game, though, it sounds like it's pretty clear that

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Betboom is going to do well early, Aurora is going to do well late.

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There's no clear, like, oh, this actually is an out draft, like a draft for what they're

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going for is good for both.

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Aurora either gets completely run over in the early to mid game, or it becomes very competitive

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and even as it progresses.

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I don't think there's a favorite for the late game, it's just more, there's more kind of

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tools for BB to utilize early on.

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Okay, well, and someone that has provided the tools is, of course, Betboom's coach,

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Bulk, who is standing by with slacks.

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Thank you so much. Yep, we are here with Bulk from Betboom.

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Thank you so much for joining us, and we're going to be translated.

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Could you please share your name, Mr. Translator?

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Sahil.

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Sahil, welcome. All right.

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Question number one, you got the rare opportunity to watch the team play in the last series.

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Did you learn anything from watching that last series that prepared you for this?

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You had the opportunity to watch the previous series, did you make any conclusions?

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We only watched the first game, we didn't see the second one because we were driving in the bus.

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That's why we didn't make any conclusions.

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the enigma last instead of doom. Any reason for that?

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That's why the draft was picked by the enigma, not the doom, but the speak.

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That's why.

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We're just more confident in the enigma.

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There are more confident in the enigma than in the doom.

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Alright, it should be a hell of a game. I want to know from your words, how hard is this grand final going to be?

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Alright, you guys are known to just destroy teams in the past. You think this might go all the way, or is it going to be pretty quick?

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What do you think will be the difficult grand final for you? Do you think you will destroy them?

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I think it will be a good series against old friends, friends and hope for a good game.

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Sun's Fan with Cinderan, and yeah, two kills already for the BB Blobs side, Cinderan.

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How's it going with you?

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Are you feeling awake?

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We have time to talk about anything we want now that there's a pause.

04:23:28.300 --> 04:23:32.300
Nira's resetting his mental right now.

04:23:32.300 --> 04:23:34.300
Feeling away at 10-3, yeah.

04:23:34.300 --> 04:23:36.300
That's a bit of a change of time for us though.

04:23:36.300 --> 04:23:37.300
We've been starting...

04:23:37.300 --> 04:23:38.300
It's true. I just had my dinner.

04:23:38.300 --> 04:23:39.300
Yeah, that's right.

04:23:39.300 --> 04:23:41.300
You eat very early nowadays.

04:23:41.300 --> 04:23:44.300
And you somehow managed to move it forward every day, which is kind of incredible.

04:23:44.300 --> 04:23:45.300
That's right.

04:23:45.300 --> 04:23:52.020
WS is going to be the victim of a very powerful lane here, and there's no way around this.

04:23:52.020 --> 04:23:56.660
Tag team too good, man. Is there a better skill than tag team early on? It's actually

04:23:56.660 --> 04:24:00.340
going to be close. He's not going to go in for the kill. Okay, doesn't actually finish

04:24:00.340 --> 04:24:03.740
the job surprisingly enough. It's almost as good as killing him.

04:24:03.740 --> 04:24:07.340
True. He has no presence in the lane now, and the player who's going to arrive to try

04:24:07.340 --> 04:24:12.900
to help him out is, as you mentioned, a two-death-wood wink. So she barely has any experience. But

04:24:12.900 --> 04:24:17.700
At the very least, you've dropped the creep equilibrium here for the radiant, so they're going to be pushing into the tower.

04:24:17.700 --> 04:24:23.420
Now the challenge is either getting pulls off or trying to put pressure in set towers so they don't get any free last hits.

04:24:23.920 --> 04:24:27.620
See what they choose to do. Looks like Katomie is on the way to pull the camp indeed.

04:24:29.620 --> 04:24:31.820
Great start for Bed Boom, clearly.

04:24:32.460 --> 04:24:35.020
Winning all three lanes, I think, is fair to say at this point.

04:24:35.340 --> 04:24:38.700
Of course, GPK, courtesy of the first blood, has an advantage.

04:24:38.700 --> 04:24:40.860
We're going to screen a plane on the pink.

04:24:42.900 --> 04:24:48.660
Yeah, GPK has been an absolute beast, not just in this tournament, but last year and a half.

04:24:48.660 --> 04:24:50.660
He's really turned his life around, Cinderan.

04:24:50.660 --> 04:24:53.460
It's a very different lease on life overall.

04:24:53.460 --> 04:24:55.860
I mean, Nightfall the same thing, though, for the other team.

04:24:55.860 --> 04:24:58.540
Like, they have, I mean, obviously, they're quite different.

04:24:58.540 --> 04:25:00.740
GPK would go in too often.

04:25:00.740 --> 04:25:02.020
Now he scaled it back.

04:25:02.020 --> 04:25:04.060
Nightfall would never go in.

04:25:04.060 --> 04:25:08.500
Scaled it back to be more of a, you know, join the fight kind of carry.

04:25:08.500 --> 04:25:10.860
Maybe they did some sort of couples counseling.

04:25:10.860 --> 04:25:13.620
They found the compromise that worked for them both.

04:25:13.620 --> 04:25:14.540
Yeah, perhaps.

04:25:14.540 --> 04:25:15.820
It would be it.

04:25:15.820 --> 04:25:19.540
OK, Ori, we did see him play a different hero in the last series.

04:25:19.540 --> 04:25:24.020
He played Banana Mancer, which everybody was shocked to see.

04:25:24.020 --> 04:25:24.980
He's back on Warlock, though.

04:25:24.980 --> 04:25:26.660
Yeah, but back on Warlock now.

04:25:26.660 --> 04:25:29.700
He's tried and true.

04:25:29.700 --> 04:25:31.700
There are a couple of new picks in this game, though.

04:25:31.700 --> 04:25:34.500
Betboom are actually running some stuff they haven't played very much.

04:25:34.500 --> 04:25:36.220
This is for some attack team, again, though.

04:25:36.220 --> 04:25:37.740
WS can take a beating.

04:25:37.740 --> 04:25:40.380
We'll go back to lane, though, as Kiritich.

04:25:40.380 --> 04:25:45.300
fighting off Mira in the meantime. WS still fighting this.

04:25:46.900 --> 04:25:50.780
This is Katoma's first test game of the tournament. I believe it

04:25:50.780 --> 04:25:53.180
might also be the first in my game of this. No, never mind. It

04:25:53.180 --> 04:25:56.180
wasn't the first in my game. But it was the first Muerta maybe.

04:25:57.340 --> 04:26:00.060
Trying to remember the graphic now that we saw with all the

04:26:00.060 --> 04:26:03.760
pics, but there were definitely some outliers. For the side of

04:26:03.760 --> 04:26:06.760
that boom in particular here Katomi. Oh, yeah, receiving and

04:26:06.760 --> 04:26:09.660
trying to contest the wiz are exceeding the Lotus live though.

04:26:10.380 --> 04:26:21.380
Yeah, what do you think about the Enigma? The panel talked about it quite a bit. I mean, obviously they have the two piercing AoE stuns in Golem and Chrono, the whole game for that.

04:26:21.380 --> 04:26:28.380
But we've seen Enigma in the past be less reliant on the Black Claw. I assume that's kind of how they're going to have to play here. It's going to be Frog Stomp.

04:26:28.380 --> 04:26:36.380
Deadshot onto two heroes, though, from Kira, just trying to turn this around with the tag team. It's going to cost the Tusk his life, but the Frog does fall to the dead woman.

04:26:36.380 --> 04:26:41.220
As Mira is this gonna be a third death for you that shot in one second

04:26:41.360 --> 04:26:47.500
He's gonna have to hit this from gonna have to be a Yolo. Oh, he sees him. Yep. No good side step

04:26:47.500 --> 04:26:50.740
The courier dies instead. That's some it's a lot of regen on there

04:26:50.740 --> 04:26:56.980
Um, I think in current Dota the most important thing for enigma picks is knowing your hero matchup in the carry

04:26:56.980 --> 04:27:02.900
I I genuinely think this hero is very pickable in most games when you see the carry first because

04:27:02.900 --> 04:27:06.800
because it kind of makes or breaks the hero, whether the Idolons are effective.

04:27:06.800 --> 04:27:09.000
And when you know it's Faceless Void, you can run this.

04:27:09.000 --> 04:27:11.000
If you don't know what the enemy carry is, you kind of can't,

04:27:11.000 --> 04:27:13.800
because if you run into something like Gyro, Monkey King, whatever it is,

04:27:13.800 --> 04:27:15.500
that just kills the Idolons, carry Tiny.

04:27:15.500 --> 04:27:17.200
Oh, nice shackle.

04:27:17.200 --> 04:27:21.000
With the power shot to follow, Fatal Bonzo coming out as Kaori.

04:27:21.000 --> 04:27:22.600
He's taking the brunt to this damage,

04:27:22.600 --> 04:27:26.200
and Saves gonna easily get the Lachemiere, getting in with the Idolons,

04:27:26.200 --> 04:27:29.500
as Nightfall's gonna have to time walk away.

04:27:29.500 --> 04:27:30.980
Savus

04:27:30.980 --> 04:27:38.340
He's just the best on this heroes support, right? There's just nobody who rivals. He's the best on like three supports. He's a good player

04:27:38.740 --> 04:27:40.740
so

04:27:41.020 --> 04:27:45.300
Who you got him on aside from this techies is the first thing that always comes to mind from me

04:27:47.260 --> 04:27:53.780
What else does he play there's people that can claim rubik along with him now I feel like rubik yeah, it's spread for sure

04:27:53.780 --> 04:28:00.840
Aero is gonna get taken out by knifepall. It's gonna cost some heavy damage as Mira takes the tumble again

04:28:01.160 --> 04:28:07.660
The knifepall being completely forced out of lane. He can't actually die here to a power shot plus an idle on shot or two

04:28:07.660 --> 04:28:12.860
Maybe the power shot is enough. See he gets it beautiful snipe from save

04:28:13.540 --> 04:28:15.640
What a god on this win runner

04:28:18.400 --> 04:28:22.160
He also plays a mean shattered even I don't know he could yeah shadow

04:28:22.160 --> 04:28:25.400
There's multiple heroes this guy's up in top three. I feel like I'm missing one

04:28:29.640 --> 04:28:33.840
Techies was the original though. That's when he first really came on to the scene. I feel like

04:28:34.940 --> 04:28:42.880
Power in time. Let's see save look for securing top will be successful. It's our caner in here for GPK who is a

04:28:43.760 --> 04:28:49.960
Full level ahead of Mikota will also be forced back and this might not look like much, but if they can somehow keep tanking this tower

04:28:49.960 --> 04:28:57.220
I'm soon. Oh, he's not going to. Okay. Well thought they were going to turn this into a little bit of a push at least with their siege creep

04:28:57.220 --> 04:28:59.220
But let it die

04:28:59.960 --> 04:29:06.820
Yeah, Makoto level six now though GPK I assume will want to use his rolling thunder pretty soon with the arcane run already running

04:29:07.420 --> 04:29:09.420
And yeah, he's gonna TP bot

04:29:10.180 --> 04:29:13.740
Don't see what kind of success you can have with it

04:29:13.740 --> 04:29:16.860
Actually gonna turn into a very easy kill it looks like on the WS.

04:29:16.860 --> 04:29:19.500
Doing some good dodges, but we'll die nonetheless.

04:29:19.500 --> 04:29:20.460
Oh, he sees the warlock.

04:29:21.100 --> 04:29:22.380
Oh yeah, he does.

04:29:22.380 --> 04:29:23.100
Into the...whoa!

04:29:24.220 --> 04:29:24.780
Yeah, there we go.

04:29:25.900 --> 04:29:27.500
K.O.R.I. being punished.

04:29:28.540 --> 04:29:29.100
Just a bit.

04:29:30.700 --> 04:29:32.460
This GPK will eventually find the...oh!

04:29:32.460 --> 04:29:33.020
Oh, okay!

04:29:33.820 --> 04:29:37.420
GPK, Symphony of Sausage, episode one here.

04:29:37.420 --> 04:29:38.540
It gets the shield crash.

04:29:39.260 --> 04:29:40.300
K.O.R.I.

04:29:40.300 --> 04:29:42.940
Baking a lot of space and there's the swash to finish the...

04:29:42.940 --> 04:29:44.940
He hits the hard ones, in the fog.

04:29:44.940 --> 04:29:47.940
Not the ones standing still.

04:29:47.940 --> 04:29:52.940
I think he might have tried to click somewhere on the ground and then click the...

04:29:52.940 --> 04:29:55.940
I shard by mistake or something, because it was very... I don't know.

04:29:55.940 --> 04:29:57.940
That was just a very uncharacteristic misclick.

04:29:57.940 --> 04:29:58.940
But it happens.

04:29:58.940 --> 04:30:04.940
Even at the highest levels of play, you too can be a pro, guys.

04:30:04.940 --> 04:30:06.940
If you can miss those slush buckles.

04:30:06.940 --> 04:30:10.940
Rocks off with the lick back into it as well as the fatal bonds.

04:30:10.940 --> 04:30:17.180
death of ferretation. That was a killing spree. Got to owe me now being slowed. Nice attempt

04:30:17.180 --> 04:30:23.620
on the shards, but the execution not there. As the lick will finish him off, so that sounds

04:30:23.620 --> 04:30:32.020
really bad. Double kill for WS. That cuts the lead in half, but you can see the 1k lead

04:30:32.020 --> 04:30:40.500
for Bethfume. And in terms of pacing, I mean, so far there's been a lot of action, but

04:30:40.500 --> 04:30:46.820
Do either team just, I mean, anytime I see a void, I just assume they want to slow the game down a bit

04:30:47.820 --> 04:30:51.120
to be able to provide as much space as possible for him to farm away.

04:30:51.300 --> 04:30:56.460
I definitely think they're going to be confident if they don't get rolled in the early game on the dire,

04:30:56.460 --> 04:30:58.900
so if you can just keep farming, that's fine, but that's the problem.

04:30:58.900 --> 04:31:00.420
That's where this enigma comes into play.

04:31:00.420 --> 04:31:07.420
Early home of the Dominator, almost level 7, which the Idolons is going to start becoming a major problem.

04:31:07.420 --> 04:31:12.740
I mean how is the damage in the chrono would you say it feels like a sonic wave

04:31:13.260 --> 04:31:19.260
It's not fish. How does lick work in there? I think it doesn't move. How powerful is the tongue of that frog?

04:31:20.940 --> 04:31:22.940
It's also shackle

04:31:24.020 --> 04:31:26.020
Nope time lock is there

04:31:26.620 --> 04:31:30.940
Hoodwink is also very good with void the extra damage from a bush whack

04:31:30.940 --> 04:31:33.300
And ult, of course.

04:31:33.300 --> 04:31:36.300
I think a bush whack, that's gonna be set up the first chrono of the game, and there's

04:31:36.300 --> 04:31:39.820
no chrono with the sonic wave, actually pushes Kat to Omi out.

04:31:39.820 --> 04:31:44.980
But I think we'll find it anyway, but there's a black hole, as TPing in was Miero onto two

04:31:44.980 --> 04:31:49.500
heroes, they're gonna be able to clean up WS quite easily, Kaori next on the list, a good

04:31:49.500 --> 04:31:55.660
counter initiation from Miero and the side of Betboom.

04:31:55.660 --> 04:32:02.960
And they'll get one more save, it's level 6, and he will go squirrel hunting, should be his urn, right?

04:32:02.960 --> 04:32:07.760
And he's going urn into, okay he's going straight Vessel here on the Windranger against Faceless Void and Largo.

04:32:07.760 --> 04:32:14.460
Seems decent, but it can of course be dispelled by the lick, so it has to be a bit selective with how he chooses to use this.

04:32:14.460 --> 04:32:22.360
That was a very nice TP from Yaro, TP'd in the corner there in the fog, so Aurora had no idea he was connecting.

04:32:22.360 --> 04:32:29.360
It was a good chrono too. Spellcasting there was honestly quite excellent, just some levels missing in the mix for Aurora.

04:32:29.360 --> 04:32:32.360
Imagine Nightfall doing that a year ago, by the way.

04:32:32.360 --> 04:32:33.360
Yeah.

04:32:33.360 --> 04:32:44.360
K.O.R.I. caught on his own Tier 1, that's going to be another easy kill onto him, and now the pressure of Tier 1 mid as Miero with his Sader going to do some heavy damage.

04:32:44.360 --> 04:32:48.360
Miero 5-1, way ahead of everybody else in this game on the Enigma.

04:32:48.360 --> 04:32:50.600
It is a very good game for it.

04:32:50.600 --> 04:32:53.640
Folks said they were confident you're seeing it.

04:32:53.640 --> 04:32:54.480
It's delivering.

04:32:54.480 --> 04:32:57.040
Because that snowball is not going to reach.

04:32:57.040 --> 04:32:59.520
It'll be fine.

04:32:59.520 --> 04:33:02.520
They aren't going to be able to take some of the creeps

04:33:02.520 --> 04:33:04.800
away in this triangle area.

04:33:04.800 --> 04:33:06.000
It's a decent steal.

04:33:06.000 --> 04:33:11.000
And you're just continuing the overall playstyle

04:33:11.000 --> 04:33:11.920
of being aggressive.

04:33:11.920 --> 04:33:13.760
I think as much as possible, Betboom

04:33:13.760 --> 04:33:16.040
would like to play across the river.

04:33:16.040 --> 04:33:20.520
And the primary goal should be to shut down Faceless Void's farm as much as possible.

04:33:20.520 --> 04:33:22.040
He went home of the Dominator, by the way.

04:33:23.160 --> 04:33:25.400
On the Void, this hero does have different builds.

04:33:26.120 --> 04:33:27.480
Dom is still one of them.

04:33:27.480 --> 04:33:30.040
Most carries that were buying this one, it was completely broken.

04:33:30.040 --> 04:33:30.680
Stop doing it.

04:33:30.680 --> 04:33:33.000
Void is, I feel like it's kind of the last one left

04:33:33.640 --> 04:33:36.760
that we still see this on, in particular Nightfall.

04:33:37.160 --> 04:33:39.240
Well, if Marcy was a carry, she could still be blind.

04:33:39.240 --> 04:33:39.880
True.

04:33:40.680 --> 04:33:41.720
She would be the other one.

04:33:42.520 --> 04:33:44.760
But there's some major upsides to Void in having this creep.

04:33:44.760 --> 04:33:49.560
It solves the problem of having to buy morbid mask to jungle because you don't have enough sustain

04:33:49.920 --> 04:33:53.580
To kill camps reliably, but buying more remaster also kind of sucks

04:33:54.360 --> 04:33:55.920
Me spotted

04:33:55.920 --> 04:33:58.220
I shards himself out of the damages too much

04:33:58.220 --> 04:34:03.880
They get the shackling to the rolling thunder with them where to silence the sonic wave pretty decent placement to stop gpk

04:34:03.880 --> 04:34:07.520
But they still get to kill onto the frog and now the connection onto the queen of pain Makoto

04:34:07.720 --> 04:34:12.120
Getting stunlock is their damage on top of it absolutely save and pango

04:34:12.120 --> 04:34:18.120
So duo it up. So two cores dead for Aurora. That was not expected at all.

04:34:18.120 --> 04:34:20.120
I did not think they were going to get the quad kill.

04:34:20.120 --> 04:34:24.120
He was mid blink animation, then he got clipped by the roll and then he gets clipped another two times.

04:34:24.120 --> 04:34:28.120
Good pacing and good spacing there by GPK.

04:34:28.120 --> 04:34:33.120
And this is starting to look very, very healthy for the side of BedBoom.

04:34:33.120 --> 04:34:37.120
Keep in mind, the dire line up in my eyes is extremely greedy.

04:34:37.120 --> 04:34:39.120
If you're losing the early game, who are you really going to play around?

04:34:39.120 --> 04:34:44.280
Void is going to be farming, you have Largo who needs to go Kaia-Aggs, your supports are Warlock.

04:34:44.280 --> 04:34:50.240
Qwadwing is great for skirmishing, but Qwadwing can realistically only really kill with either a Chrono or Queen of Pain.

04:34:50.240 --> 04:34:54.040
You don't really have a lot to offer.

04:34:54.040 --> 04:35:00.040
So I think in this game's state, this already looks exceptionally good for E.B., not just the 4K lead, but just the overall...

04:35:01.880 --> 04:35:06.400
...way this game should progress if played correctly. You'd imagine they keep expanding their lead.

04:35:06.400 --> 04:35:09.840
That mirror is still level 5, by the way.

04:35:09.840 --> 04:35:11.340
Yeah, he's had a rough game.

04:35:11.340 --> 04:35:13.340
So is Kat only, actually.

04:35:13.340 --> 04:35:17.000
It's less important though, I would say, for the Tusk to get 6,

04:35:17.000 --> 04:35:20.460
because he doesn't have the same level of responsibility to make things happen.

04:35:20.460 --> 04:35:24.040
You don't need the punch here to kill, as we've clearly seen already.

04:35:24.040 --> 04:35:26.140
They've managed to get 14 kills. They have plenty of

04:35:26.140 --> 04:35:29.540
setups and stuns and great damage output in their heroes, so...

04:35:29.540 --> 04:35:34.460
It's much more Aurora depending on the sharpshooter to get kills,

04:35:34.460 --> 04:35:36.760
Because they have damage issues aside from QWOP.

04:35:37.160 --> 04:35:40.060
And that's been pretty clear in the scrimmages.

04:35:40.060 --> 04:35:42.760
They're struggling to finish heroes off.

04:35:46.060 --> 04:35:50.360
Yep, it's WS opting to go for the casual Kaia into the ag.

04:35:50.360 --> 04:35:52.260
So we've been seeing some variation to that.

04:35:52.960 --> 04:35:56.260
In this tournament, Nightfall is going to be the recipient of a smoke.

04:35:56.260 --> 04:35:58.060
I believe a scan came out though.

04:35:58.860 --> 04:36:01.860
Kay already shadowing him, so has the chaotic offering ready.

04:36:01.860 --> 04:36:05.860
Cancel any potential black hole. He's gonna time walk away though.

04:36:05.860 --> 04:36:08.860
The power shot now is gonna reveal...they are.

04:36:08.860 --> 04:36:11.860
Or in fact, in the trees creeping on Nightfall.

04:36:11.860 --> 04:36:18.860
And obviously this extremely telegraphed that Aurora here, because Nightfall is playing very aggressive, so...

04:36:18.860 --> 04:36:24.860
In case Betboom weren't already aware that there's a four or five men's squad here, Nightfall is not...

04:36:24.860 --> 04:36:26.860
Not gonna pretend...

04:36:26.860 --> 04:36:33.180
And that's the end of that.

04:36:33.180 --> 04:36:37.580
So every passing minute that Bed Boom don't gain, I think it's a win for Aurora.

04:36:37.580 --> 04:36:41.140
And this is where this game is going to be at for a while, that Bed Boom will be trying

04:36:41.140 --> 04:36:45.980
to poke and prod and find picks, or at least constrict the map.

04:36:45.980 --> 04:36:51.900
And if they're unable to do so, or are step-by-step getting toward the time when their lineup

04:36:51.900 --> 04:36:58.620
makes more sense and the panel talked about they were they were running this void earlier

04:36:58.620 --> 04:37:04.380
today and lost the early game as well into falcons but eventually they got there seems

04:37:04.380 --> 04:37:08.740
to be the mindset of nightfall is he knows when he picks this hero that he's probably

04:37:08.740 --> 04:37:14.020
going to lose his lane but he's going to lose it by enough. WS is really the guy who's

04:37:14.020 --> 04:37:19.980
struggling the most here on the Largo. Very far down the charts.

04:37:19.980 --> 04:37:23.820
Yep, not used to seeing that.

04:37:23.820 --> 04:37:30.380
Like that hero typically will get his farm one way or another.

04:37:30.380 --> 04:37:34.620
And save is the richest of the supports right now, which I guess would be no surprise considering

04:37:34.620 --> 04:37:38.960
he is 3-0 and 7.

04:37:38.960 --> 04:37:42.180
Has the spirit vessel now finished on the way?

04:37:42.180 --> 04:37:45.960
I always think it's cool when you have tournaments like this where there's been a pretty defined

04:37:45.960 --> 04:37:47.320
support meta, right?

04:37:47.320 --> 04:37:53.600
For the most part, there's like a consensus of Rubik is strong, Hoodwink is strong, Phoenix

04:37:53.600 --> 04:37:54.600
is strong.

04:37:54.600 --> 04:38:00.720
And then you have one guy who's just so good at Windranger that they can pick it early

04:38:00.720 --> 04:38:04.520
in their drafts and just find massive impact every game.

04:38:04.520 --> 04:38:07.920
He's so far, he's 3-0 with it in the tournament.

04:38:07.920 --> 04:38:11.960
Forcing the Sonic wave out on Makoto in mid in defensive measures and he's just going

04:38:11.960 --> 04:38:12.960
to leave.

04:38:12.960 --> 04:38:14.440
Have they played it on Kiritich?

04:38:14.440 --> 04:38:15.440
I don't think so.

04:38:15.440 --> 04:38:18.080
It's not even a flex. Even more impressive.

04:38:18.080 --> 04:38:19.920
Yeah, I mean maybe they had...

04:38:19.920 --> 04:38:23.040
If nothing else, they still have the option, which is still just add a benefit.

04:38:23.040 --> 04:38:26.480
When you're picking it early, the enemy team has to always keep in mind that it's a possibility.

04:38:28.800 --> 04:38:31.360
But I'm not sure if they've even run at a singular time in that position.

04:38:31.360 --> 04:38:32.000
All right, looks like...

04:38:32.880 --> 04:38:34.720
This will be the blink reveal for Miara.

04:38:34.720 --> 04:38:35.440
Yep, so I'm just going to...

04:38:35.440 --> 04:38:36.960
He has Dromham's blink now.

04:38:38.880 --> 04:38:40.720
And yeah, they use a snowball onto an illusionist.

04:38:40.720 --> 04:38:43.760
That's going to give some very needed information for Aurora.

04:38:45.440 --> 04:38:51.320
Hard to catch anybody here, once they saw that.

04:38:51.320 --> 04:38:58.360
You can see the, in the itemization of Aurora here, they're maybe a little bit lacking considering

04:38:58.360 --> 04:39:03.700
Mira is going ATOS.

04:39:03.700 --> 04:39:08.440
Seems like their overall call is we need more catch and more lock down, where we have to

04:39:08.440 --> 04:39:09.440
damage.

04:39:09.440 --> 04:39:15.440
into the black hole and the rolling thunder, even a centaur stomp, every stun in the book needed.

04:39:16.440 --> 04:39:21.440
Ends up netting the easy kill and nightfall in the second death of the game, meanwhile bottom.

04:39:22.440 --> 04:39:28.440
The Tusk alone for the time being, tried to go onto WS, is now getting pursued by the frog himself.

04:39:28.440 --> 04:39:33.440
And that little bit of movement from WS is telling Betboom that there's like three or four heroes down here,

04:39:33.440 --> 04:39:37.440
because WS ran in very aggressively into the Tusk, and he wouldn't do that if he were on his own.

04:39:37.440 --> 04:39:40.680
zone. You could imagine you could make like some sort of big plays with that

04:39:40.680 --> 04:39:44.760
where you're pretending to be bigger than you really are. It's just in this

04:39:44.760 --> 04:39:47.560
game state it seems very unlikely and well they don't seem to care they're

04:39:47.560 --> 04:39:52.280
gonna go on him anyway. They will. Connecting again. I get the punch into

04:39:52.280 --> 04:39:57.160
not much. Mission failed. I kind of wasted some time for Aurora. They were backtracking

04:39:57.160 --> 04:40:03.480
back and forth two separate times to try to save the WS Froggy.

04:40:03.480 --> 04:40:11.600
So GPK has the mage player, which obviously against, I would say the main ones are QWOP

04:40:11.600 --> 04:40:12.600
and Largo.

04:40:12.600 --> 04:40:13.600
Yep.

04:40:13.600 --> 04:40:14.600
And very good.

04:40:14.600 --> 04:40:16.600
And they'll be opting for the aggs next.

04:40:16.600 --> 04:40:20.800
Yeah, it doesn't feel like a game where you necessarily need the defusal, because you

04:40:20.800 --> 04:40:22.600
have so much lockdown between enigma.

04:40:22.600 --> 04:40:26.480
I mean, all your other heroes offer some sort of control.

04:40:26.480 --> 04:40:30.760
They all have either a stun or a silence, or yeah, that's basically it.

04:40:30.760 --> 04:40:31.760
Plenty of that.

04:40:31.760 --> 04:40:35.920
if you're buying defusely or mainly be for the monoburn less so that for the

04:40:35.920 --> 04:40:41.360
slow I 100% degree that makes life better choice here and have we seen

04:40:41.360 --> 04:40:44.360
anyone go both you talked about this the other day if it's good I personally

04:40:44.360 --> 04:40:47.760
don't think it is but I wonder if it has happened I can't remember a game we

04:40:47.760 --> 04:40:52.280
cast with I mean I would have mentioned it if it was in a game we cast yeah well

04:40:52.280 --> 04:41:00.200
you tend to miss things and forget things only important things as you know

04:41:00.200 --> 04:41:04.660
I'm not very absent minded so and definitely judge you for that. That's right

04:41:07.500 --> 04:41:09.500
Having a lot of old man moments lately

04:41:09.920 --> 04:41:16.160
Chackle on some creeps. Looks like Aurora were wanting to maybe do something, but kind of just grouping up here chillin

04:41:17.220 --> 04:41:19.220
Protecting the void as he farms away in the jungle

04:41:19.920 --> 04:41:25.020
Yeah, it's a very stale game from the dire and it is just heavily

04:41:26.060 --> 04:41:29.180
Inflicted by the early laning stage and the type of lineup they're running

04:41:30.200 --> 04:41:34.600
I'm not surprised to see Aurora play this defensively. I think it's very difficult, but

04:41:36.040 --> 04:41:38.040
They don't really have much of a choice

04:41:39.240 --> 04:41:43.000
It's very ulti heavy, Sonic, Golem, Chrono

04:41:43.400 --> 04:41:49.560
Even when you have all of the spells, you're kind of looking for a very specific type of fight that that boom aren't really giving you

04:41:50.200 --> 04:41:55.000
So you end up just having these spells ready for minutes on end, which never feels great

04:41:55.000 --> 04:42:02.920
hate, but I totally understand why they're just electing to continue to hit creeps.

04:42:02.920 --> 04:42:05.120
You agree with that percentage?

04:42:05.120 --> 04:42:06.120
Um...

04:42:06.120 --> 04:42:13.520
I think it's kinda close to that, at least.

04:42:13.520 --> 04:42:16.640
We've been hating on the graph lately, or the probability of...

04:42:16.640 --> 04:42:18.160
I wouldn't say hate.

04:42:18.160 --> 04:42:20.200
I find it to be riveting conversations.

04:42:20.200 --> 04:42:21.700
Been disagreeing?

04:42:21.700 --> 04:42:26.700
Well, I think once you realize it's basically chat-chiming, so you can't trust it for anything,

04:42:26.700 --> 04:42:31.700
then you can really enjoy the comedy, that is, these useless numbers on the screen.

04:42:31.700 --> 04:42:38.700
I do think, with the perspective of, once again, we don't know how the win expectancy really works,

04:42:38.700 --> 04:42:42.700
but let's assume it's based on high-level pubs, I could see it being 60-40, actually.

04:42:42.700 --> 04:42:46.700
Because all the dire needs is one good fight after the at-largo acts,

04:42:46.700 --> 04:42:48.660
um... and then suddenly

04:42:48.660 --> 04:42:52.340
you know they're like a potential to take notes the panel talk about void

04:42:52.340 --> 04:42:54.280
void quite like him

04:42:54.280 --> 04:42:55.820
is hard to beat

04:42:55.820 --> 04:42:58.900
it's almost like i could tell you could pick any two cores in the enemy team i

04:42:58.900 --> 04:43:00.020
have quite

04:43:00.020 --> 04:43:02.700
but black holes what are you gonna pick

04:43:02.700 --> 04:43:06.580
but i don't know what it's always called

04:43:06.580 --> 04:43:10.580
late in the game you're always going to buy back

04:43:10.580 --> 04:43:13.700
and his job is just going to wait

04:43:13.700 --> 04:43:16.620
which is really interesting because it

04:43:16.620 --> 04:43:21.420
What can end up happening in that match-up is that you have one hero with 25,000 net worth,

04:43:21.420 --> 04:43:23.920
and it's at the mercy of a hero with 8,000 net worth.

04:43:23.920 --> 04:43:24.420
Yeah.

04:43:25.120 --> 04:43:28.120
And if you get into that position, that's obviously incredibly good for Aurora,

04:43:28.120 --> 04:43:32.620
since you're taking away Enigma's biggest presence late in the game.

04:43:33.420 --> 04:43:35.620
Oh yeah, the Kaori special.

04:43:35.620 --> 04:43:39.620
Kaotic offering onto the tier one gives no shits.

04:43:40.020 --> 04:43:41.820
It's just gonna get killed off immediately though.

04:43:41.820 --> 04:43:42.920
Oh, that was great.

04:43:42.920 --> 04:43:46.640
Very nice farm for Keratish. He enjoyed that move quite a bit

04:43:48.320 --> 04:43:54.200
Thank you Ori was getting bored. Yeah, understandably they're playing quite slow this game

04:43:54.560 --> 04:43:57.600
Agatom scepter now there for Makoto. So the shadow strike AOE

04:43:59.160 --> 04:44:02.960
And the screen of pains afterwards. Yep, very powerful

04:44:05.160 --> 04:44:08.520
Me how long I mean against Idle on's that's pretty dirty

04:44:08.520 --> 04:44:12.920
true if they stay on long enough I guess because if you kill them beforehand

04:44:12.920 --> 04:44:17.040
they don't scream right don't they still scream when they die this is like now

04:44:17.040 --> 04:44:24.360
you're making me shout myself I think you're right though you must be right

04:44:24.360 --> 04:44:30.600
then again I am you're right okay when shadow strike ends or is reapplied so

04:44:30.600 --> 04:44:34.040
you could technically have it on all the idols and if you throw it again right

04:44:34.040 --> 04:44:37.040
Then it will explode, even if they don't.

04:44:39.040 --> 04:44:41.040
I mean the cooldown is going to be really low, right?

04:44:41.040 --> 04:44:44.040
If you walk to me and it's a 3 second cooldown, so you could definitely imagine...

04:44:45.040 --> 04:44:50.040
If it exploded every time a unit died, that would be so broken, actually.

04:44:50.040 --> 04:44:53.040
I just had to stop myself for a second, holy shit.

04:44:54.040 --> 04:44:56.040
Sounds like you're kind of balancing.

04:44:56.040 --> 04:45:00.040
Imagine you threw that into a cluster of PL illusions, and then you...

04:45:00.040 --> 04:45:01.040
Oh, that...

04:45:01.040 --> 04:45:02.040
...fliped them out.

04:45:02.040 --> 04:45:03.040
I'm okay with that.

04:45:03.040 --> 04:45:06.040
Okay, let's kill the whole cluster. That would be so broken.

04:45:07.040 --> 04:45:10.040
Makoto bottles the Damage Rune.

04:45:10.040 --> 04:45:15.040
Pepin, we're looking for a fight. Couldn't find a connection, and now a smoke from Aurora.

04:45:15.040 --> 04:45:16.040
Yup.

04:45:16.040 --> 04:45:19.040
This Damage Rune on Makoto could be pretty dirty.

04:45:19.040 --> 04:45:22.040
Feels like their first attempted move in 10 minutes.

04:45:22.040 --> 04:45:29.040
Yup, as they attempt to go onto the high ground of their own jungle, Atoz finds a connection into the Bushwack,

04:45:29.040 --> 04:45:31.040
and that should be a kill onto the Tusk.

04:45:31.040 --> 04:45:33.040
Oh, he instantly sn- Oh.

04:45:33.440 --> 04:45:35.340
I thought he was gonna stay in the ball for a bit.

04:45:35.340 --> 04:45:37.140
They might have been able to do something with this blink.

04:45:37.140 --> 04:45:39.940
I think he just panicked double-clicked the snowball.

04:45:42.740 --> 04:45:44.740
Not to say he would have survived regardless,

04:45:44.740 --> 04:45:46.440
but could have made them work for it a bit more.

04:45:46.440 --> 04:45:49.240
Still, it's a fine four-error, but it's not great.

04:45:49.240 --> 04:45:52.140
You kill one five tusk with your big smoke.

04:45:52.140 --> 04:45:54.140
You didn't use any big spells, though.

04:45:56.140 --> 04:45:59.140
Black hole? Or rather a BKB.

04:45:59.140 --> 04:46:01.540
I mean he also has Black Hole, Miro.

04:46:01.540 --> 04:46:02.540
Yeah.

04:46:02.540 --> 04:46:04.860
If Warlock is out of play, he's gonna own it.

04:46:04.860 --> 04:46:08.700
I thought this would be more of an aura build.

04:46:08.700 --> 04:46:11.620
Because now you're buying Blink, you're buying BKB.

04:46:11.620 --> 04:46:16.340
This feels like you're playing around Black Hole with trying to kill Voids.

04:46:16.340 --> 04:46:18.180
He's gonna try for it.

04:46:18.180 --> 04:46:21.260
There's the BKB Black Hole and the death.

04:46:21.260 --> 04:46:23.020
Nobody's nearby.

04:46:23.020 --> 04:46:26.340
Even BKB'd for that just in case anybody was nearby to help.

04:46:26.340 --> 04:46:31.900
And the trade is going to be safe, not a fair, although he had a killing spree, actually it was worth more money.

04:46:31.900 --> 04:46:33.400
Haha, boy.

04:46:34.000 --> 04:46:34.500
Okay.

04:46:35.700 --> 04:46:36.500
Pretty nice.

04:46:36.500 --> 04:46:47.160
Still easily a win for the radiant overall, since the Void, it will be unable to farm for a full minute, and has more of a key role to play still.

04:46:47.160 --> 04:46:49.400
Yeah, talk to me about this build, for Mera.

04:46:51.400 --> 04:46:54.200
Uh, wait, what's he buying with the T.R. in here?

04:46:54.920 --> 04:46:55.420
One sec.

04:46:56.340 --> 04:46:59.340
Is it just going straight octurine now?

04:46:59.340 --> 04:47:00.340
I guess.

04:47:00.340 --> 04:47:01.340
What else?

04:47:01.340 --> 04:47:03.340
One of the components that...

04:47:03.340 --> 04:47:05.340
I think that's a little early maybe?

04:47:05.340 --> 04:47:06.340
Yeah, I think so too.

04:47:06.340 --> 04:47:07.340
I guess it's just going octurine.

04:47:07.340 --> 04:47:09.340
He also got... Hex is not bad against Void.

04:47:09.340 --> 04:47:11.340
I mean the options are open, right?

04:47:11.340 --> 04:47:15.340
Yeah, I think pipe was an interesting prospect,

04:47:15.340 --> 04:47:17.340
but ultimately with how this game played out,

04:47:17.340 --> 04:47:19.340
if Aurora aren't going to try to fight you,

04:47:19.340 --> 04:47:21.340
the pipe wouldn't even have been that great.

04:47:21.340 --> 04:47:23.340
If you can't find them, if they're going to play keep away,

04:47:23.340 --> 04:47:27.980
away and you can't truly force them to fight you then the pipe is kind of

04:47:27.980 --> 04:47:32.740
wasted. I would have definitely not been surprised to see him go it though I

04:47:32.740 --> 04:47:35.980
would have been a fan of it too. It's just it's a very different approach and

04:47:35.980 --> 04:47:41.060
so you're playing more on the expectation that this is going to come

04:47:41.060 --> 04:47:45.740
down to some later game stuff than just we're gonna roll them in 30-40 minutes

04:47:45.740 --> 04:47:52.580
and so far that seems likely. Miero there's a guitarist above you. Not the

04:47:52.580 --> 04:47:57.580
Good kind, either. Mero does blink out, Spidey senses tingling.

04:47:57.580 --> 04:48:03.580
Finally some damage on this tier one tower. This is the first tower of the game for Aurora, 25 minutes.

04:48:03.580 --> 04:48:04.580
It's crazy.

04:48:04.580 --> 04:48:07.580
They finally get there, and the tower was almost full HP too.

04:48:07.580 --> 04:48:09.580
And look at the tower damage done.

04:48:09.580 --> 04:48:12.580
I mean, the lead is not really growing for that though.

04:48:12.580 --> 04:48:19.580
Like 6k is not anything out of reach for Aurora. We've seen them come back from a worse start than this for sure.

04:48:19.580 --> 04:48:21.580
Literally yesterday, I believe.

04:48:22.580 --> 04:48:24.580
And now the win expectancy is 50-50.

04:48:25.220 --> 04:48:26.020
Actually.

04:48:27.460 --> 04:48:31.220
With every passing minute things look better for the dire lineup overall.

04:48:31.220 --> 04:48:34.500
I'm not saying they're an auto-gimme win for late game,

04:48:34.500 --> 04:48:38.340
but they definitely have the tools to be able to win it if it goes down the stretch.

04:48:38.980 --> 04:48:44.020
Seems difficult for Batboom to truly pressure them as much as they would like.

04:48:49.380 --> 04:48:51.140
Nightfall almost going to complete BKB now.

04:48:51.140 --> 04:48:56.340
That's a very big item. It's pretty high protection except against the black hole. They have it on block two

04:48:56.580 --> 04:49:02.340
Yeah, I found it. I can't get the hero around. All right one hero and player we haven't talked about is Kiritich on the Moertha

04:49:02.660 --> 04:49:06.420
Mm-hmm. Just very silently farming away top net worth

04:49:07.700 --> 04:49:11.780
As he's gonna be in the pit now. So he has Mjolnir, BKB, Dragon Lance

04:49:13.140 --> 04:49:14.180
and

04:49:14.180 --> 04:49:16.180
Going for the blink next

04:49:16.580 --> 04:49:18.580
That's a little bit later. I feel like

04:49:18.580 --> 04:49:25.060
We're going to use Pierce to Veil to ensure that Roche will get destroyed here.

04:49:25.060 --> 04:49:29.940
Aurora were not interested in contesting this without the remote wing, it seems.

04:49:29.940 --> 04:49:33.780
What is the matchup like between Muerta, Void, and late game?

04:49:33.780 --> 04:49:36.260
We're just assuming it's the only late game.

04:49:36.260 --> 04:49:40.700
It's pretty special, I would say, compared to a lot of other late game matchups, because

04:49:40.700 --> 04:49:48.500
Muerta is one of the only carries that Void can't itemize to solve a spell from.

04:49:48.500 --> 04:49:51.060
If Pierce the Veil is running, you just can't kill her, right?

04:49:51.060 --> 04:49:53.860
And late gameboy usually just wins carry to carry matchups.

04:49:53.860 --> 04:49:58.020
He just chronos them, uses everything and just bashes you to death.

04:49:58.020 --> 04:49:59.300
And Moezi can deal with that.

04:49:59.300 --> 04:50:04.580
She also is one of the heroes that has such ridiculous damage output that if Moezi gets

04:50:04.580 --> 04:50:08.700
stunned, you can kill him even when he's six-slotted during, let's say, four seconds of stun.

04:50:08.700 --> 04:50:13.700
Moezi, if she is, you know, a Daedalus and pops her ult, she's going to absolutely obliterate

04:50:13.700 --> 04:50:14.700
him.

04:50:14.700 --> 04:50:17.060
So I think in that sense, it's a good matchup.

04:50:17.060 --> 04:50:22.320
But at the same time where it's also if you get chronoed without pierce the veil you're pretty weak

04:50:22.320 --> 04:50:26.560
This hero is not tanky with a six-slotted build. So it's very high skill

04:50:26.560 --> 04:50:28.460
It's very much about finding the right moment

04:50:28.460 --> 04:50:34.740
How much time do you have to pop pierce the veil when you see like is that doable when you see the void come in?

04:50:34.740 --> 04:50:36.180
Yeah, yeah, it's doable

04:50:36.180 --> 04:50:40.220
So if so this is the downside of faceless void losing the shard

04:50:40.220 --> 04:50:45.180
It's not part of his axe having the reverse time walk because that's a good way to bait it out right in theory

04:50:45.180 --> 04:50:51.620
that's true that's not gonna be until extreme lightning if ever we've seen

04:50:51.620 --> 04:50:57.780
voids enjoy the battle fury eggs build more recently for that reason because it

04:50:57.780 --> 04:51:03.220
gives you both when battle fury eggs was making waves that was with the old

04:51:03.220 --> 04:51:08.420
star but obviously now that you get both the time walk bash and the time walk

04:51:08.420 --> 04:51:14.020
reversal on the same item it actually gets quite appealing

04:51:15.180 --> 04:51:21.900
go for the frog. It'll be an easy one. Feels like the first semi-major killing

04:51:21.900 --> 04:51:27.020
quite a while, both teams quite content to farm. But again as we say that, it

04:51:27.020 --> 04:51:31.020
does feel like that is something Aurora would prefer in general. I mean how much

04:51:31.020 --> 04:51:33.500
can they get out of this ages? Another three minutes.

04:51:33.500 --> 04:51:36.980
I'm assuming they'll definitely take the mid two to here. I don't think Aurora

04:51:36.980 --> 04:51:42.420
are interested in fighting without their Largo. So I'll take that which will open

04:51:42.420 --> 04:51:52.760
the outpost so that's something but yeah you're not high grounding this no unless

04:51:52.760 --> 04:51:56.840
you find a good fight it's just too difficult for now all right well they

04:51:56.840 --> 04:52:03.000
get the first tier two of the game feels like with this amount of time you're

04:52:03.000 --> 04:52:09.000
picking one of the next two remaining tier twos that is yeah you could maybe

04:52:09.000 --> 04:52:12.160
Maybe think about bottom or you could also think about nightfall maybe.

04:52:12.160 --> 04:52:14.720
Oh they're thinking about it.

04:52:14.720 --> 04:52:16.720
Hato's gonna find save though.

04:52:16.720 --> 04:52:18.720
And we'll force staff away.

04:52:18.720 --> 04:52:23.760
God that icon is so weird on save but what is that new icon?

04:52:23.760 --> 04:52:24.760
John Gale.

04:52:24.760 --> 04:52:25.760
The shawl.

04:52:25.760 --> 04:52:29.760
It looks so, it does not fit in here at all, does it?

04:52:29.760 --> 04:52:30.760
Am I going crazy?

04:52:30.760 --> 04:52:34.360
Well that might be some slightly different art direction, maybe whoever is designing

04:52:34.360 --> 04:52:35.640
the items is a different person.

04:52:35.640 --> 04:52:39.240
I would agree, some of the new item designs don't really look like it's...

04:52:39.240 --> 04:52:41.840
I think from Zabla or something, is G.Chackle shot?

04:52:41.840 --> 04:52:42.840
Oh my god, they just...

04:52:42.840 --> 04:52:45.640
Oh my nightcrawl destroyed!

04:52:45.640 --> 04:52:48.640
The Sonic Wave comes through from Makoto, but they've already lost their carry.

04:52:48.640 --> 04:52:56.240
Now the rolling thunder from GPK and Kaori is certainly next, so too dead in the blink of an eye.

04:52:56.240 --> 04:52:57.140
Maybe now you think about...

04:52:57.140 --> 04:53:00.740
Maybe three even, GPK with a nice blink.

04:53:00.740 --> 04:53:05.500
Doesn't have the refusal to slow, but save there with the focus fire and the spear vessel is gonna be licked off though.

04:53:06.340 --> 04:53:07.540
WS will survive.

04:53:08.040 --> 04:53:08.540
Damn.

04:53:08.740 --> 04:53:09.240
That is-

04:53:09.240 --> 04:53:10.240
That is with the Aegis.

04:53:10.240 --> 04:53:12.940
Very promising how quickly the Void died there.

04:53:13.140 --> 04:53:16.040
They find a shackle shot and look at where it says damage output.

04:53:16.540 --> 04:53:20.440
1800 during that shackle and one Malifist tick.

04:53:23.040 --> 04:53:26.440
Goes to show just how dangerous the match is for both heroes.

04:53:26.440 --> 04:53:27.140
Oh, they're gonna black-

04:53:27.140 --> 04:53:29.340
Oh, no, oh, no, oh boy.

04:53:29.340 --> 04:53:35.740
Why not I fall was back in eight seconds. That is very costly and now that's 60 more seconds

04:53:35.740 --> 04:53:40.580
You have to wait to have your full lineup back. Yeah, maybe you can keep pushing here 50 seconds on ages

04:53:40.580 --> 04:53:44.540
You know, there's no pop. Maybe you're worried about a buyback. Oh my god

04:53:45.500 --> 04:53:50.420
Symphony of sausage for real. They're gonna be able to get the ages, but no nightfall alt now

04:53:51.420 --> 04:53:56.300
The BKB pop by night, but just gonna try to right click on the curiosity so that is old either the focus fire flight

04:53:56.300 --> 04:54:01.300
I did not fall around, I get punched into the air as WS trying to heal him up and I finally get the time walk off.

04:54:01.300 --> 04:54:07.300
Chaotic offering on himself apparently as GPK trying to finish the job cannot do so.

04:54:07.300 --> 04:54:13.300
They get the Largo eventually. Will they continue to push? No more Aegis.

04:54:15.300 --> 04:54:19.300
What happened to this game? It went from 0 to 100.

04:54:19.300 --> 04:54:23.300
I didn't even see what he was trying to chrono. I wasn't looking down there. I was looking at the center of the pie.

04:54:23.300 --> 04:54:28.860
I think it was one hero. I forget who it was though, and then a chaotic offering was on the rolling thunder

04:54:28.860 --> 04:54:35.100
Yeah, I think it was a good golem to be honest look hilarious though. It might have been necessary as a defensive measure

04:54:35.660 --> 04:54:40.420
Never feels great, but feels better than using on a tower. I'll say that I

04:54:40.900 --> 04:54:46.740
Mean he used his own tower there kind of well if you use it on a tower that means you're pushing that probably feels better than being in

04:54:46.740 --> 04:54:48.740
Your big oh you wanted to solo chrono

04:54:48.740 --> 04:54:55.000
It's filming yeah, that was not worth it even if you got it. Yeah, I don't know man. I'm not a big fan of that to begin with

04:54:56.780 --> 04:55:03.100
All right 14k now the advantage gale force super annoying as well should mention that I

04:55:04.780 --> 04:55:06.780
Love all in here

04:55:06.780 --> 04:55:08.780
There it is boom

04:55:09.980 --> 04:55:15.220
It may potentially have saved I don't I don't think maybe would have lived anyway on the void

04:55:15.220 --> 04:55:20.060
Yeah, I don't know if they could have connected, but it's fine. He got itchy fingers. I've been there

04:55:21.700 --> 04:55:27.280
Yeah, there's just some heroes when you're behind and you're not really doing anything that have this exceptional ability to just be boring

04:55:27.860 --> 04:55:29.860
Warlock undying comes to mind

04:55:30.300 --> 04:55:35.760
It kind of just there your heroes entire purpose and for the majority of the game is to teamfight and be good in laning

04:55:35.760 --> 04:55:38.020
You didn't win your lane and you're not teamfighting

04:55:38.460 --> 04:55:41.220
So you're kind of just walking in circles waiting things to happen

04:55:41.220 --> 04:55:47.740
Did you see the previous series where Kay already got like he was I think they mentioned kind of played like clockwork early

04:55:47.740 --> 04:55:49.660
He's getting all these

04:55:49.660 --> 04:55:55.760
Are you setting up everything for his team the contrast is said that the contrast is quite stark

04:55:56.460 --> 04:56:01.400
We did that in this. This is the other end of the spectrum. This is sadness incarnate

04:56:04.460 --> 04:56:07.160
Shackle not gonna hit they don't need it

04:56:08.620 --> 04:56:10.620
mirrors

04:56:10.620 --> 04:56:17.140
Effectively buying time and information. I think he's well aware that he's out of position there. He's just trying to

04:56:17.860 --> 04:56:19.620
figure out

04:56:19.620 --> 04:56:23.940
What's going on with the enemy team? This is sometimes the best play for supports is to

04:56:24.980 --> 04:56:26.620
You could call it overextend

04:56:26.620 --> 04:56:31.620
But is it really if you're getting three or four heroes to kill you so that your cores have some sort of safety and some sort of

04:56:31.980 --> 04:56:37.820
Something to go by because if you look at the dire map right now, they don't have a single ward out. It's dark out here and

04:56:37.820 --> 04:56:40.820
And you're clearly behind.

04:56:40.820 --> 04:56:46.820
You know you can just get jumped and die to a black hole, especially with Golem on cooldown, which is now finally available again.

04:56:49.820 --> 04:56:51.820
There's the blink on Kiritich.

04:56:53.820 --> 04:56:54.820
Or the Muerta.

04:56:54.820 --> 04:56:56.820
What is that ward? What?

04:56:57.820 --> 04:56:58.820
What?

04:56:58.820 --> 04:56:59.820
Well, it doesn't see much.

04:56:59.820 --> 04:57:01.820
What is that?

04:57:01.820 --> 04:57:02.820
Okay.

04:57:03.820 --> 04:57:05.820
Wait, am I missing something?

04:57:05.820 --> 04:57:08.520
That literally gave no vision, right?

04:57:08.520 --> 04:57:10.960
Maybe the trees were cut or how old was it?

04:57:10.960 --> 04:57:14.620
Oh, I see. Nightfall is going to get the Chronosphere onto the moire to enter the Sonic Wave.

04:57:14.620 --> 04:57:16.320
Do they have the damage they do?

04:57:16.320 --> 04:57:19.520
That is a huge kill. The first big kill for Aurora.

04:57:19.520 --> 04:57:24.320
Seemingly the entire game saved, stuck on the wrong side of the Tormentor.

04:57:24.320 --> 04:57:28.720
Going to get triple team with a Shadow Strike from Makoto, bringing him to an end.

04:57:28.720 --> 04:57:31.020
Kaoru is a strategic mastermind.

04:57:31.020 --> 04:57:34.120
Apparently, he baited them in with the worst ward I've ever seen.

04:57:34.120 --> 04:57:37.560
That ward just baited Muerta and somehow...

04:57:37.560 --> 04:57:39.060
Yeah, that's...

04:57:39.060 --> 04:57:43.560
We've seen both sides of the matchup now of the Void vs. Muerta situation.

04:57:43.560 --> 04:57:46.860
You get the chrono from Fog, Muerta isn't ready, she can die 100 to 0.

04:57:46.860 --> 04:57:50.460
You get to hit Void during a stun, he can die 100 to 0.

04:57:50.460 --> 04:57:52.460
So, very, very volatile.

04:57:52.460 --> 04:57:56.260
At that time, Aurora finally for them gets something going.

04:57:56.260 --> 04:57:59.260
They've been waiting for that for seemingly 20 minutes.

04:57:59.260 --> 04:58:01.260
You're gonna see the replay here.

04:58:01.260 --> 04:58:05.100
it's completely freshly placed was he just anticipating some sort of movement

04:58:05.100 --> 04:58:15.540
here so strange I mean obviously some logic to it maybe we're just done yeah

04:58:15.540 --> 04:58:20.580
that's usually usually the reason I mean if he genuinely just wants to cover

04:58:20.580 --> 04:58:24.260
that one angle of them coming through the trees to contest the tormentor then I

04:58:24.260 --> 04:58:30.220
guess it makes sense but pretty unusual and also the fact that it gets

04:58:30.220 --> 04:58:34.200
instantly be warned it's kind of fun anyway seeing the replay here the

04:58:34.200 --> 04:58:37.720
as soon as caretiches that fights over you know just gonna back off that won't

04:58:37.720 --> 04:58:41.840
cut their losses which are quite significant that was a 5k swing to

04:58:41.840 --> 04:58:45.940
core or two heroes dead one of them being a core you lose the tormentor and the

04:58:45.940 --> 04:58:52.880
boomerang now in mirrors arsenal that's a good one I got the good 50-50 kori

04:58:52.880 --> 04:58:56.440
would have been real sad if he got that short I think you're gonna be happy with

04:58:56.440 --> 04:59:01.480
anything I guess besides for his team because he would know of the oasis I

04:59:01.480 --> 04:59:04.160
think he just loved that they came to de-ward his ward he was like finally

04:59:04.160 --> 04:59:09.360
interaction with other human beings been living like a hermit out here

04:59:10.200 --> 04:59:16.840
WS also has his short by the way so I guess for now it's just croak it's just

04:59:16.840 --> 04:59:22.560
croak of genius but I mean is this a good Lincoln's or Lotus game or anything

04:59:22.560 --> 04:59:23.560
like that.

04:59:23.560 --> 04:59:24.560
Clever.

04:59:24.560 --> 04:59:27.560
Anything.

04:59:27.560 --> 04:59:30.560
Not like particularly great, honestly.

04:59:30.560 --> 04:59:32.560
Lincoln's I guess is okay against Windranger.

04:59:32.560 --> 04:59:35.880
So yeah, I'm assuming you want to buy it regardless in a 6-lot build, right?

04:59:35.880 --> 04:59:39.680
It's just two good values, have twice, but you can see it's not in his quick buy.

04:59:39.680 --> 04:59:45.480
Well, my question is, do you think the CrocoGenius shard is good enough to buy if it's only

04:59:45.480 --> 04:59:46.480
for that?

04:59:46.480 --> 04:59:47.480
Yeah, I think so.

04:59:47.480 --> 04:59:48.480
Is it?

04:59:48.480 --> 04:59:49.480
With Quapia, I think so.

04:59:49.480 --> 04:59:50.480
Okay.

04:59:50.480 --> 04:59:55.520
both using it so incredibly effectively that I think it's worth it if you now if

04:59:55.520 --> 04:59:59.240
you were a support Largo and you were only using it on co-op and nothing else

04:59:59.240 --> 05:00:05.040
then maybe it's okay and whatever because you would be using it on her anyway

05:00:05.040 --> 05:00:09.440
and the effect on yourself isn't that important when you're support but then

05:00:09.440 --> 05:00:12.640
you'd be a support Largo and that's a weird hypothetical regardless because

05:00:12.640 --> 05:00:18.480
nobody plays that so real shame I'm sure they'll that will do something to make

05:00:18.480 --> 05:00:28.980
That's him with the smoke, Mira's gonna sit in the tree line to try to be the first line of defense, WS now trades places though.

05:00:30.320 --> 05:00:32.320
Singing his song in the trees.

05:00:34.460 --> 05:00:38.960
Roche is up so, next pick off could just potentially give Roche to either team.

05:00:42.140 --> 05:00:45.980
It is a game of patience, okay? We have better patience, we'll wake up him.

05:00:45.980 --> 05:00:47.980
Including the viewers.

05:00:47.980 --> 05:00:49.980
Yeah, I was just going to say the viewers agree.

05:00:49.980 --> 05:00:52.980
We can tell you guys his mindset is indeed patience.

05:00:52.980 --> 05:00:54.980
We will bear with you for now.

05:00:54.980 --> 05:00:59.980
If I was a player and I knew that my, you know, what I was saying was going to go out on stream,

05:00:59.980 --> 05:01:00.980
I'd give a shout out to Twitch chat.

05:01:00.980 --> 05:01:02.980
Is it KW, LOL, LOL, something like that?

05:01:02.980 --> 05:01:04.980
Wow, that's what the emotes you knew.

05:01:04.980 --> 05:01:06.980
You had to say LOL twice because you ran out.

05:01:06.980 --> 05:01:08.980
That's actually genuinely true.

05:01:08.980 --> 05:01:12.980
You are such a boomer.

05:01:12.980 --> 05:01:14.700
Such a boomer.

05:01:14.700 --> 05:01:16.140
How does that make me a boomer?

05:01:16.140 --> 05:01:17.660
Heck, W, lullo.

05:01:17.660 --> 05:01:19.460
Heck, W's New Age-ish.

05:01:19.460 --> 05:01:21.460
Eh.

05:01:21.460 --> 05:01:22.420
That's the best one, though.

05:01:22.420 --> 05:01:23.420
It's like 10 years old.

05:01:23.420 --> 05:01:24.420
It's the best one, though.

05:01:24.420 --> 05:01:26.220
You should know the King of Emotes, Shane.

05:01:26.220 --> 05:01:27.020
The King of Emotes?

05:01:27.020 --> 05:01:28.380
Old school, the original King of Emotes.

05:01:28.380 --> 05:01:29.020
About Kappa?

05:01:29.020 --> 05:01:29.820
Forehead.

05:01:29.820 --> 05:01:30.420
Oh, forehead.

05:01:30.420 --> 05:01:31.700
Always the best.

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Oh.

05:01:32.500 --> 05:01:34.540
It was the, I missed the days of forehead,

05:01:34.540 --> 05:01:37.180
Ella Giggle, but they got replaced.

05:01:37.180 --> 05:01:38.060
W took over.

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Roche.

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Roche is dying, by the way, to a song.

05:01:40.540 --> 05:01:42.300
Stop talking about chat, as Kathy only

05:01:42.300 --> 05:01:44.220
gets the punch up, there's the gale force,

05:01:44.220 --> 05:01:45.580
Roach really low to get the shackles,

05:01:45.580 --> 05:01:47.540
not gonna fully lash on Makoto, get the BKB,

05:01:47.540 --> 05:01:50.180
jumps in to take the Aegis, kills off Roach as well,

05:01:50.180 --> 05:01:52.860
with the Sonic Wave, nicely done for Aurora.

05:01:52.860 --> 05:01:55.100
See if they continue to wanna fight here.

05:01:55.100 --> 05:01:57.340
WS, gonna be the recipient of a snowball,

05:01:57.340 --> 05:01:59.540
pops the BKB though, his GPK,

05:01:59.540 --> 05:02:02.660
the Black Hole onto absolutely, nope, he gets the Aegis.

05:02:02.660 --> 05:02:05.220
So that was not nothing, Makoto, 40.5 HP,

05:02:05.220 --> 05:02:07.660
despite just respawning, knife wall, gets the Kronos here,

05:02:07.660 --> 05:02:09.980
but he cannot hit the Muerta.

05:02:09.980 --> 05:02:12.220
In the BKB has the damage rune as well,

05:02:12.220 --> 05:02:17.740
seems, and that's a double buyback for Bedboom now. GPK trying to find a connection. Mira,

05:02:17.740 --> 05:02:22.780
not the first priority, but it's the only hero nearby. Swashbuckle missing, and Aurora is going

05:02:22.780 --> 05:02:27.340
to get out with most of this, so they use the Aegis to get the one kill onto the QWAP as well,

05:02:27.340 --> 05:02:33.420
and that's it. Yeah, that could have definitely gone better for Bedboom. I think Miero misplaced

05:02:33.420 --> 05:02:38.700
that fight a bit, to be honest. They had QWAP linked in aggressively and Kiriti, it's like three shot

05:02:38.700 --> 05:02:43.100
her, but they used a black hole for it. He refreshes for the second black hole and then

05:02:43.100 --> 05:02:47.500
ultimately doesn't get the connection, but also nice play from Nightfall to recognize

05:02:47.500 --> 05:02:51.500
he just has to get the hell out of there after cronling the second time. If he sticks around

05:02:51.500 --> 05:02:56.220
he's going to get black hole and that turns really bad really quickly. Yep, rolling thunder again

05:02:56.220 --> 05:03:02.380
from GPK, not able to find anyone outright, seeing the roll up as well as Mira getting some

05:03:02.380 --> 05:03:06.300
hate but he's going to survive. Just creates a little bit of space but the fortification really

05:03:06.300 --> 05:03:13.180
protected them. The Eidolon has cleaned up very easily and a lot to deal with this zoo

05:03:13.180 --> 05:03:21.660
that is enigma. Looks like that's going to be the end of that. For now, anyway, Miero

05:03:21.660 --> 05:03:26.580
almost has axe as well. This enigma is so unbelievably fun. I cannot believe it. I feel

05:03:26.580 --> 05:03:30.060
like he just finishes octurane and he has a refresher for that last fight. Like how?

05:03:30.060 --> 05:03:35.100
And he almost has axe. He's 8'1 and 7 with 365 CS. What a beast.

05:03:35.100 --> 05:03:41.100
There's a lot of creeps on the map. Not a lot of action. Enigma, you can farm two places at once.

05:03:42.100 --> 05:03:43.100
So...

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Giving them the time and space.

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It's the pulling thing.

05:03:48.100 --> 05:03:49.100
Yeah.

05:03:49.100 --> 05:03:51.100
Yeah, and the extra damage. Okay.

05:03:53.100 --> 05:03:54.100
Um, it's one of those where...

05:03:54.100 --> 05:03:57.100
I'm surprised he's not going... I mean, maybe this is a noob thing.

05:03:58.100 --> 05:04:01.100
Like a sheeva's. I mean, you get extra AOE. Do you even need it?

05:04:01.100 --> 05:04:07.300
It's okay. I don't think it would be terrible. I just this is probably just better

05:04:09.500 --> 05:04:13.240
It's more impact it's more it's more problems created for the enemy team

05:04:14.140 --> 05:04:18.100
Precision wise the black hole dealing so much damage becomes an issue in itself

05:04:19.180 --> 05:04:24.820
It's just unbelievably rich now. It's backpacking his dominator at 40 minutes

05:04:24.820 --> 05:04:31.160
I mean, now that he has AGs, it becomes even better, I suppose.

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Yes, now it makes more sense.

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I mean, it was a good suggestion to begin with.

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I just think this is a bit better.

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Octary now on Queen of Pain as well.

05:04:39.320 --> 05:04:41.320
Good to see.

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Okay, rolling thunder.

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WS licks the rune.

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You don't get to see that all too often.

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Fix it up.

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Now the chase is on.

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WS not going to get hit.

05:04:49.320 --> 05:04:51.820
Chibikei having a hard time connecting onto people.

05:04:51.820 --> 05:04:53.820
It does not have a hard time getting stuck on the cliff, though.

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It has to swash buckle away shield crash out of the pit now. What's it Roche's banner?

05:04:57.660 --> 05:05:04.220
Oh, it's a banner. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay, free to be cool. So in the end or a do get everything from the Roche

05:05:04.220 --> 05:05:07.380
You can track for everybody just takes them a little time. Yeah

05:05:08.620 --> 05:05:15.180
Yeah, if you leave ages, it doesn't start the time until you pick it up, right? That's crazy. Any have to ages is

05:05:17.180 --> 05:05:19.420
You should be able to then I've never seen it though

05:05:19.420 --> 05:05:24.480
I'm trying to think if I like if Roche spawns does that take your aegis away randomly?

05:05:24.480 --> 05:05:28.000
You know what I mean? Yeah inside of them. I can't exist at the same time

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I've never seen it, so I don't know the answers to that question

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I don't play games where that's a possibility Shannon somebody you know that after you know these these pros they always pick up a

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Just instantly except when they don't and sometimes they forget it

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But I'll tell you Toro, but they don't forget it that much I

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I think there has we have watched the game once I think where the ages was on the ground for like two or three minutes because the

05:05:51.640 --> 05:05:54.620
Teams just forgot about it. Yeah, but eventually a glorious moment

05:05:54.620 --> 05:05:59.700
But somebody fucked it up and picked up the ages so that's right screw that person players don't like fun

05:05:59.700 --> 05:06:01.820
Shannon. Yeah, that's why they're playing warlock

05:06:03.380 --> 05:06:05.380
Largo has picked up you on disc

05:06:05.740 --> 05:06:09.400
So that is the item against enigma of course. We'll see

05:06:10.160 --> 05:06:13.840
I'm assuming the sixth lot of build of GPK in this game has a nullifier itself

05:06:13.840 --> 05:06:22.840
Of course the Vale, WS already on this procs, snowball on top, there's a sonic wave to give some distance, short blocking him slightly, now the rolling counter but the BKB from WS can keep him safe.

05:06:22.840 --> 05:06:27.840
GPK finally gets a connection, again it's Mira though, he's going to get licks and no more spirit vessel for you.

05:06:27.840 --> 05:06:32.840
Now the Ghost Scepter, so GPK can't do any damage, all of that and Betboom get nothing.

05:06:32.840 --> 05:06:39.840
Yeah, nicely, nicely kited out by Aurora and Betboom going to respect the counterplay potential now and back off.

05:06:39.840 --> 05:06:44.720
They expended quite a bit, there, pierced the veil, and pangolts.

05:06:44.720 --> 05:06:48.480
I think there's a really low cooldown.

05:06:48.480 --> 05:06:53.120
Yeah, both spells are about to be ready again, but if fight were to continue, that could

05:06:53.120 --> 05:06:54.120
have gone really bad.

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So they're just not going to take the risk, they don't have to.

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Enigma almost has a Shadowblade, it has been two minutes, so of course the next item has

05:07:00.560 --> 05:07:02.600
to come out now.

05:07:02.600 --> 05:07:05.120
This one is a little bit unfair, because he sold his home of the Dominator.

05:07:05.120 --> 05:07:07.160
Oh, it's not a Sheep, it's sad.

05:07:07.160 --> 05:07:08.560
He did get extra gold.

05:07:08.560 --> 05:07:12.340
Seems to be his mindset is I need to be able to get the element of surprise

05:07:13.960 --> 05:07:17.680
It's on the way out now. I don't even know what his 25 sounds are. Let's see

05:07:17.940 --> 05:07:23.800
Four mouth instances of four I don't want. Okay, so you take the instances I assume unless you're in like a

05:07:26.200 --> 05:07:30.460
Generally the idol ones are better really yeah, because four mouth instances

05:07:30.460 --> 05:07:34.480
How often does this matter like how often does that not get dispelled by something, right?

05:07:34.480 --> 05:07:38.480
Yeah, I guess. I mean, neither sound that good.

05:07:38.480 --> 05:07:43.080
The Eidolons just have the ability to like really push lanes hard and threaten barracks

05:07:43.080 --> 05:07:44.480
when you have that many of them.

05:07:44.480 --> 05:07:45.480
Yeah.

05:07:45.480 --> 05:07:47.480
You spawn seven instead of three.

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So.

05:07:48.480 --> 05:07:51.480
Okay, I guess it is, uh, yeah.

05:07:51.480 --> 05:07:53.480
And then they spawn more on top.

05:07:53.480 --> 05:07:54.480
I guess that sounds pretty good.

05:07:54.480 --> 05:07:58.480
But generally speaking, they're not the most exciting 25s.

05:07:58.480 --> 05:07:59.480
No.

05:07:59.480 --> 05:08:01.480
That's very true.

05:08:04.480 --> 05:08:11.360
I mean, what do you want to see instead, like a collapsed black hole?

05:08:11.360 --> 05:08:16.200
I'm trying to think of what a cool 25 would be on this hero that isn't broken.

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When the hero is already so ready for this lake.

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Something galaxy related, it's gotta be space.

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Yeah.

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Spawn satellites.

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Spawn's Neil Armstrong.

05:08:27.800 --> 05:08:32.280
Yeah, okay, I think my idea was marginally better even though they were both awful.

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spawn your armstrong he says hello that's the play that's it that's all it

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does one small step for man you know he fucked up that quote yeah it's supposed

05:08:42.660 --> 05:08:50.820
to be one small step for man yeah one fight giant leap for mankind how did he

05:08:50.820 --> 05:08:54.420
screw it up no he said yeah it's supposed to be for a man but he said man

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which is the same as mankind right but he he claims or claimed that he did it

05:08:59.500 --> 05:09:03.360
correctly it was just a buffering you know yeah yeah that's right the internet

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was unplugged or something mm-hmm a K. Lee for bet them okay all right hello

05:09:09.120 --> 05:09:16.120
goodbye places a century and leaves refuse to elaborate we need to find out

05:09:16.120 --> 05:09:20.560
about the ward no it's really bothering me

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this is gonna be a long series and I'm looking forward to yeah it's it's

05:09:28.420 --> 05:09:30.940
It would have been longer if Falcons had hit them.

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These two teams are pretty, yeah, well, if they were playing 1v1v1, I don't know how that would work.

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True.

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Imagine the... Could you imagine the Dota map with three teams?

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Yes, somebody made that.

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It existed in Warcraft 3, right? I think there was a version of that.

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Somebody made a custom game.

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The whole... The only thing the game is about at that point is diplomacy.

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It's genuinely all that matters.

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Who do we kill first?

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Yeah.

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Now we're enemies.

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Pet boom with an aggressive position once again now and this game has in reality not

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really changed that much in the last 10 minutes.

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It's still the exact same essential things that need to happen.

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You need to either get a good Krono or a good Black Hole.

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You need to get counterplays.

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You need to play around those specific two abilities with everything you have and you

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need to itemize to empower and mitigate those two spells.

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So you're buying disc on Largo for that reason.

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Wouldn't be surprised to see more discs come out on the dire and on the radiant

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You should be itemizing to either stun and insta kill the void or to be able to outlast the chrono with something like windbreakers

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Which is probably the next item for yeah, it's the next item for both

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Save and Katomie. What a freebie. Oh, so Quirora weren't remotely interested. I assume they were aware

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as they usually are.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, Refresher shard on to Curitich along with the Aegis, so we'll have double pierce

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the veil.

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Yep.

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And now that refresher does not refresh items, it means the backpack game becomes a little

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bit more interesting now, I would argue.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, I agree.

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I wonder who this, it's probably better from where it's in the Moerze versus Void match

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up the change to Refresher.

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Oh, 100%.

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I think the second BKB is more important for Void than it is for her, because her ult inherently already pseudo works as...

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I mean, it doesn't do the same as BKB, but in terms of keeping you alive, it has massive impact.

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What about hit 25? I assume it's going to be the backtrack cooldown, or backtrack chance, excuse me.

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Classic?

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Yeah, I'm up to see a big fat chrono though, but I doubt it.

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He hasn't chosen yet.

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Is he weighing his options here?

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Is this much of a consideration?

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If you miss it as much...

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Whoa!

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Okay, he took the big one.

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I was just gonna say, if you miss it as much as you did on the ketome, it doesn't matter that it's bigger.

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It's more of a flub, if anything.

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Okay, interesting.

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I think backtrack is really good this game.

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Shockingly. But if you fortunately block one or two Muerta shots, it can be the difference between getting off literally everything or nothing.

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And I don't know if this big Chrono is going to change all that much for him.

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I guess his idea is just he's hoping to get more heroes on the line.

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No longer to Makoto with the Gale first,

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going to pop the DKB in retreat now.

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Sonic Wave just on the cat to Omi,

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puts on the other side of the shores,

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gets licked to deck.

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Knifeball, there's Krono number one,

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and that is on the Muerta.

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That is deck number one for her.

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Does Knifeball want to go in again?

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Does it look like his Miro jumps into the DKB,

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uses the Black Hole only onto the frog

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as the chaotic offering comes out.

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Knifeball finished job on the Kiori for the Muerta,

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and refreshes again, so as it double pierced the veil,

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they want to use it.

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Picoto still alive somehow blinks out dodging the power shot as well.

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GBK trying to finish the jump but the washbuckler is not quite enough.

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Fly back for the Largo.

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This is like game dokes right here.

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Jump in. Kataomi all alone right now.

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There, just thinking about it. Nice shackle onto the frog. Kataomi looks to be a sacrifice.

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A snowball.

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He does. We'll slow things down. There's the Muerta ult again into the black hole.

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They destroy the void right off the bat.

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Cannot get anything off of it, but Kota comes in for the finishing blow onto Kiritich.

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Meanwhile, Focus Fire not quite enough of the power shot onto WS, still staying alive on the Largo.

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Swashbuckle on Kaori, GPK gets another kill to his name.

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Now the shield crashes while GPK is dominating here, Kiritich gets the double kill.

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As Mira able to TP out, I believe that was a buyback for the Largo, so a dieback and no buyback for Nightfall.

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And all of a sudden, Bat Boon can potentially go high ground here.

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It's so insane how fast Void dies. That was an almost instant counter golem on the black hole. He's still dead.

05:14:00.820 --> 05:14:01.980
Where does he get to hit for?

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A second and a half, and it's enough. That's why I would really love to see the backtrack talent here.

05:14:07.180 --> 05:14:10.620
Maybe that would have kept him alive in that situation. The big chrono didn't matter at all.

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Yeah.

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And, you know...

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It's so...

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What was the reason for...

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Here's the veil initiation. Sonic Wave right on top. GPK gets caught on the crossfires.

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Looking for Mira as he attempts to get out.

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Power shot? Not quite enough.

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Does make it to the fountain. GPK buys the refresher.

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Just to get another rolling thunder here, creating enough space.

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Makoto trying to keep them at bay, but this is going to be a tough sell.

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And save can focus fire and keratich doing so much damage now.

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That's one lane.

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Almost certainly going to be more here.

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Krono though. You have to respect the shadow strikes. His Wind Waker was killed off by

05:14:54.320 --> 05:14:58.480
the way on the courier, so he has to wait quite a while for that.

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They know that. Largo does not buy back, but the 4v4 in the enemy base is a little too

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tight.

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I'd have to see the fight again. Why didn't he Krono again on the corpse?

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Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe he was worried about Enigma connecting in.

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If a how, if the black hole is huge.

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Yeah, if you just put it on top of yourself in the middle.

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I mean, maybe there's an angle? I don't know. It's tough to say.

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Yeah.

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But that's like a double kill.

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Or that's two kills on a mortar.

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If you're mashing Pierce the Veil when you come out of Aegis,

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do you think you can get it off before the Veil is?

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I highly doubt it.

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You know, there's some abilities where you have a frame, right?

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Yeah.

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I don't actually know if even, we're going to see in the replay here,

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was he didn't use Pierce the Veil for the first life, obviously.

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Otherwise he wouldn't have lived.

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Yeah, there's that first chrono.

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And this is where you would have just liked to see the refreshed chrono again.

05:15:48.640 --> 05:15:50.640
It does refresh, but jumps out.

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Yeah.

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With the arrow on the left.

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Maybe you could be right.

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It might be possible to pop right, like, within chrono.

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I don't know for sure though.

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It doesn't feel like it should, but that never means anything.

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Look out for the second void kill, by the way.

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Just how ridiculous the fast night will die if we do get to see the whole replay here.

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An eye on his HP.

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And there's a bit of a lag time here.

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Some delay.

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There's a separation in the fights.

05:16:23.640 --> 05:16:27.640
Was he getting killed by anything else than where's my question?

05:16:27.640 --> 05:16:28.640
He was very held. Here it is.

05:16:28.640 --> 05:16:30.640
He gets silenced as well.

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One, two...

05:16:32.640 --> 05:16:34.640
Oh, it was a 1,300 crit?

05:16:34.640 --> 05:16:36.640
Yeah, not bad.

05:16:36.640 --> 05:16:38.640
Very fast.

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Not even close to over yet, though.

05:16:44.640 --> 05:16:49.640
Betoom are in an advantageous position, but not by a ridiculous amount.

05:16:49.640 --> 05:16:52.640
Bibex are more important than Barracks at this point.

05:16:52.640 --> 05:16:54.640
You still have insane lead game potential.

05:16:55.640 --> 05:16:57.640
So clutch plays will matter a lot.

05:16:57.640 --> 05:16:59.640
Jule is dodging the whole Sonic wave.

05:16:59.640 --> 05:17:01.640
Very nicely done from save.

05:17:01.640 --> 05:17:02.640
Oh.

05:17:02.640 --> 05:17:03.640
They're not gonna get out though.

05:17:03.640 --> 05:17:04.640
There's the Black Hole.

05:17:04.640 --> 05:17:06.640
They baited him in with the pierce the veil.

05:17:06.640 --> 05:17:07.640
Makoto dead.

05:17:07.640 --> 05:17:10.640
WS with a BKB on the retreat.

05:17:10.640 --> 05:17:12.640
Basically alone at this point,

05:17:12.640 --> 05:17:14.640
Nifle finally connects, looking for the chrono.

05:17:14.640 --> 05:17:15.640
He gets it onto two.

05:17:15.640 --> 05:17:17.640
Trying to take out the pango to start things out.

05:17:17.640 --> 05:17:18.640
He's not doing that much damage.

05:17:18.640 --> 05:17:19.640
Pops the refresher.

05:17:19.640 --> 05:17:21.640
He can go for another one.

05:17:21.640 --> 05:17:22.640
There's the snowball.

05:17:22.640 --> 05:17:24.640
Saved for the time being, but into another chrono.

05:17:24.640 --> 05:17:26.640
There's Muero with the Black Hole.

05:17:26.640 --> 05:17:27.640
Instantly canceled though.

05:17:27.640 --> 05:17:29.640
Now Carrot is jumping in again with the right click.

05:17:29.640 --> 05:17:30.640
That's not enough.

05:17:30.640 --> 05:17:35.680
Miro gets taken out by Kaori, the bloodstone trying to keep the frog alive and not for long.

05:17:35.680 --> 05:17:43.320
Kaori, he has a refresher for God's sake, into the ult on the GPK as Kiritich pops the BKB, right-clicking away as well.

05:17:43.320 --> 05:17:47.720
The point extremely low, they get the stun, they get the kill, double kill for Kiritich.

05:17:48.720 --> 05:17:51.200
Instant buyback now for Nightfall.

05:17:53.320 --> 05:17:58.960
And that's a TP attempt for the Moira, and Kiritich gets out just barely.

05:17:58.960 --> 05:18:05.960
Also, that's back-to-back Sonic waves actually dealing 0 damage for skillful plays from Batboom.

05:18:05.960 --> 05:18:09.960
That was a very, very expensive fight on Bi-Bats.

05:18:09.960 --> 05:18:13.960
You bought Bat-Quap and Void, and you're not really getting anything out of it.

05:18:13.960 --> 05:18:18.960
There's no objective with your name on it. You're not going to be able to push any buildings.

05:18:18.960 --> 05:18:23.960
And I have to question Nightfall's re-engage there. He used both Chronos, and then he just jumped in to try to hit them where it's at.

05:18:23.960 --> 05:18:27.160
the Muerta wasn't able to connect and just killed himself and has to use Vibeck.

05:18:27.160 --> 05:18:32.160
That was on his own accord, but the fight, sure it wasn't great up until that point,

05:18:32.160 --> 05:18:36.240
but you could have at least saved Void's life, which is worth more than anything right

05:18:36.240 --> 05:18:37.240
now.

05:18:37.240 --> 05:18:38.240
Oh my god!

05:18:38.240 --> 05:18:39.240
Uh, yeah.

05:18:39.240 --> 05:18:43.320
That's a double tap right there, Jesus.

05:18:43.320 --> 05:18:45.320
Like in Muerta's ridiculous.

05:18:45.320 --> 05:18:48.880
I mean, can't she even grow from here?

05:18:48.880 --> 05:18:49.880
Not really.

05:18:49.880 --> 05:18:50.880
Infinitely.

05:18:50.880 --> 05:18:51.880
With a card.

05:18:51.880 --> 05:18:53.920
Excuse me, I'll just start with an RNA.

05:18:53.920 --> 05:18:55.040
Oh, well, true.

05:18:55.040 --> 05:18:59.120
I guess you can get Ag Shard and the Eon Disk will,

05:18:59.120 --> 05:19:02.960
I assume, replace the BKB after it's used?

05:19:02.960 --> 05:19:04.320
Would be my assumption.

05:19:04.320 --> 05:19:06.560
Actually, no, you would need it

05:19:06.560 --> 05:19:08.160
just to prevent Corona, right?

05:19:09.040 --> 05:19:11.180
Like, what do you replace then?

05:19:11.180 --> 05:19:15.680
I guess you put the Eon Disk and then the BKB replaces it?

05:19:16.520 --> 05:19:18.080
It's very dangerous to not have BKB

05:19:18.080 --> 05:19:19.400
in your active inventory, though.

05:19:19.400 --> 05:19:20.240
Yeah.

05:19:20.240 --> 05:19:22.240
That's tricky.

05:19:23.520 --> 05:19:25.520
But you definitely want both.

05:19:25.520 --> 05:19:30.560
But it feels like if you're getting E on this, it has to be in your inventory, like it can't be a backpack item, right?

05:19:30.560 --> 05:19:32.060
Yeah.

05:19:32.060 --> 05:19:34.060
Yeah, it's difficult.

05:19:34.060 --> 05:19:40.320
I think you have a valid point that maybe it's just too hard to use correctly, so it's just better to get

05:19:41.600 --> 05:19:43.600
you know the other items instead.

05:19:44.640 --> 05:19:47.360
Also feels like eggs on where it would be really good, no?

05:19:47.360 --> 05:19:49.560
Yeah, like it's just such a good axe

05:19:50.880 --> 05:19:52.880
Even on carry and late game

05:19:53.200 --> 05:19:58.320
That shot 10 second cooldown you imagine you hit some sort of good combo on that on two or three heroes

05:19:58.320 --> 05:20:02.440
Which is very likely the radiant lineup tends to you know run

05:20:03.480 --> 05:20:06.920
Very they're not clumping up per se, but they're kind of lining up

05:20:07.960 --> 05:20:09.960
Between the Largo void and Queen I

05:20:11.920 --> 05:20:16.040
Don't know I think I would actually like to see that more than anything. Okay changed it. He's buying eggs nice

05:20:16.040 --> 05:20:18.040
Okay, good choice.

05:20:19.040 --> 05:20:22.040
Oh my god, what was the time left on the TP?

05:20:24.040 --> 05:20:28.040
Okay, very annoying. That'll feel good for GPK and save.

05:20:29.040 --> 05:20:32.040
We're starting to reach that point, Shannon, where it's time to talk about level 30s.

05:20:33.040 --> 05:20:36.040
Who has the best double talent combo? Pango is 30.

05:20:37.040 --> 05:20:41.040
GPK first to hit it, so he has the swashbuckle damage and rolling thunder cooldown.

05:20:41.040 --> 05:20:42.040
I mean, it's Muerta.

05:20:42.040 --> 05:20:48.120
More it's a gunslinger, two deadshot charges with axe has to be ridiculous.

05:20:48.120 --> 05:20:54.240
I mean, Boyd's is obviously very good, but yeah, I think more it takes the cake.

05:20:54.240 --> 05:20:59.820
Also realistically, don't know if anyone else is going to get there.

05:20:59.820 --> 05:21:02.760
The distance from level 27 to 30 is very, very long.

05:21:02.760 --> 05:21:04.880
Let's look at the timer here.

05:21:04.880 --> 05:21:06.880
Alright, 1.2.

05:21:06.880 --> 05:21:11.560
Could have been closer.

05:21:11.560 --> 05:21:12.560
Noob.

05:21:12.560 --> 05:21:16.460
Kaur was bored again, so he started split-pushing.

05:21:16.460 --> 05:21:18.840
He's obviously doing it for a reason, it's uh...

05:21:18.840 --> 05:21:27.720
Yeah, he'll have ag...I mean, he has enough for ags, but wants buyback I assume.

05:21:27.720 --> 05:21:29.220
Tier 5 neutral, Shannon.

05:21:29.220 --> 05:21:31.340
He'll exist, though.

05:21:31.340 --> 05:21:32.340
You used to be so excited.

05:21:32.340 --> 05:21:33.340
Yeah, not anymore.

05:21:33.340 --> 05:21:34.840
Now, which ones are good?

05:21:34.840 --> 05:21:37.960
Uh, Dizun Bloodwright for Enigma, I'm guessing.

05:21:37.960 --> 05:21:38.960
AOE.

05:21:38.960 --> 05:21:39.960
He's fast.

05:21:39.960 --> 05:21:44.960
So the zoom blood ride is good, uh, Harmonizer on QWOP.

05:21:48.960 --> 05:21:51.960
You want one deso, obviously. It's the best one, probably.

05:21:53.960 --> 05:21:57.960
Fallen Sky, any merit to that? I'm something like Faceless Roy.

05:21:57.960 --> 05:21:59.960
Is that me? He wants the deso, though.

05:22:01.960 --> 05:22:04.960
And then, of course, Divine Regalia. It's always a valid choice.

05:22:04.960 --> 05:22:10.440
choice. I feel like it's gonna sound great. I feel like players overrate that one.

05:22:10.440 --> 05:22:16.040
Or Galio? Yeah. Because I think it's only good if you only have one fight in you without

05:22:16.040 --> 05:22:23.200
buyback or something. Otherwise, surely any other item is gonna be better most of the time.

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You die once, then you just don't have a neutral for the rest of the game. So if you have another

05:22:28.400 --> 05:22:34.680
fight in you, you're just worse now. I don't know. It sounds cooler than I think it actually

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is in terms of effectiveness so Aurora now are going to smoke because they have

05:22:38.520 --> 05:22:41.520
the assumption or excuse me that boom have the or assuming that Aurora will

05:22:41.520 --> 05:22:44.280
go to try to farm tier fives and they are right correct

05:22:44.280 --> 05:22:49.200
right there though with the chaotic offering there's the chrono sir right

05:22:49.200 --> 05:22:52.920
on the enigma night for popping the refresher as well and the arrow is dead

05:22:52.920 --> 05:22:57.600
he has five act chrono again there's time on to two heroes one of them is saved

05:22:57.600 --> 05:23:01.760
just to support both effectively wasted is now Miero buys back into the game

05:23:01.760 --> 05:23:02.880
Sonic way for Makoto.

05:23:02.880 --> 05:23:06.000
Giratish in and midst of all this pop to BKB and the pierce to Veil.

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Going for Makoto, stun lock, gets off the bloodstone and the wind waker.

05:23:09.520 --> 05:23:10.880
Do they have the damage to finish the jump?

05:23:10.880 --> 05:23:14.560
No, he blinks him, but gets you stun in the base by GPK.

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Double kill and he is down and out.

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Two minutes of no-quap.

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Nightfall with a five-man chrono, but two of them were teammates and one of them was himself.

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So really, not the greatest.

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and they still have the ages and cheese and yeah that they have two more black

05:23:33.240 --> 05:23:38.960
holes by the way yep that's the only creating some space GPK as well they

05:23:38.960 --> 05:23:42.120
can just pound on these buildings weren't to one of the best at just this

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and double hit buildings that's a second lane now for Beto the jump in

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another wind waker usage is the buyback onto the warlock WS pop in the

05:23:50.560 --> 05:23:54.120
bloodstone try to stay alive there's appears to bail I'm doing too much with

05:23:54.120 --> 05:23:58.240
it as me as Mira gets four staff into death so that's a dieback effectively

05:23:58.240 --> 05:24:02.880
for him now cool play from save the blink offensive force staff not often we see

05:24:02.880 --> 05:24:06.560
that here at that still has the ages for two and a half minutes all back in 30

05:24:06.560 --> 05:24:10.800
seconds as well they're about to go for these bag is now GP K could create so

05:24:10.800 --> 05:24:15.840
much space WS being forced back into the fountain and this is certainly

05:24:15.840 --> 05:24:22.800
magas for bed boom do they continue to push they have no reason not to

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It's down to HS.

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There's the Malifas into the black hole.

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No cancel this time.

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Down is Largo.

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Bites back into the game as Nightfall

05:24:31.380 --> 05:24:34.640
being controlled on the back line.

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They get a lick off.

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There's the Miro.

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Black hole again, but it passes this time.

05:24:41.320 --> 05:24:42.800
Has done so much work this game.

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A small misstep for him.

05:24:45.200 --> 05:24:47.560
Small misstep for Mankind as well, Cinderant.

05:24:47.560 --> 05:24:49.600
Is it going to be able to kill off this Largo as well?

05:24:49.600 --> 05:24:54.600
Another dieback is Kira Ditching Company, about to take game number one.

05:24:54.600 --> 05:24:59.600
Last fortification for Aurora. How long on this chronos for your 10 seconds away?

05:24:59.600 --> 05:25:06.600
But again, feel like GPK has used this 10 times this fight. How is that even possible?

05:25:06.600 --> 05:25:13.600
They blink in again to control. They have the damage as well as Nightfall will finally call GG.

05:25:13.600 --> 05:25:17.600
And game one to Beckloo.

05:25:17.600 --> 05:25:21.200
You'd love to see all these big ults and these late game team fights.

05:25:21.200 --> 05:25:30.600
It took us a while to get there, a lot of, a long essentially standoff for like 15-20 minutes without too much happening and ultimately Betboom do get the better of them.

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I think what seemed to play such a big role in this game was the ability for the Radiant to easier connect their spells.

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The Chronos just never really nailed them and without the Chronos being big, I think for Aurora it was just too challenging.

05:25:45.100 --> 05:25:48.060
game on the bed. Boom. She

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Thank you very much, Shannon.

05:25:50.060 --> 05:25:52.060
What a first game to this best

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of five grand finals. I think

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maybe there were nerves at play

05:25:57.060 --> 05:26:00.060
a little bit. A couple of missed

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Ultimates potentially in there.

05:26:02.060 --> 05:26:04.060
I mean, it made it more and more exciting

05:26:04.060 --> 05:26:06.060
for us to watch. It was definitely

05:26:06.060 --> 05:26:08.060
a fun one. I'm here with the cost

05:26:08.060 --> 05:26:10.060
Jenkins and Tiga, but we're gonna break

05:26:10.060 --> 05:26:12.060
it all down the cost. This was

05:26:12.060 --> 05:26:14.060
quite the adventure for us. It was.

05:26:14.060 --> 05:26:18.620
extra bit of a patient just waited out they like on paper they have a very good

05:26:19.260 --> 05:26:23.180
like late game draft when it comes down to them scaling with the double chronosphere

05:26:23.180 --> 05:26:27.660
it's clean of pain damage we saw the numbers for a good reason this hero just pretty much nails

05:26:27.660 --> 05:26:32.220
every single team fact we didn't see this is one of the very few games where clean of pain

05:26:32.220 --> 05:26:38.220
wasn't really carrying in the super late game wsp said it just waited out gotta be patient it

05:26:38.220 --> 05:26:43.180
doesn't work out for them because the spell casting wasn't really on point i mean bb just played

05:26:43.180 --> 05:26:48.140
this early game so cleanly that they got themselves into this like lead that even if a row was to

05:26:48.140 --> 05:26:52.700
win a fight it's like you kind of need to see them win two three fights yeah that's a three

05:26:52.700 --> 05:26:56.940
three a row type scenario yeah it was extremely rough and I'm playing on the back foot and nights

05:26:56.940 --> 05:27:01.740
we'll just really never enter the game like we've already just mentioned there there is something

05:27:02.620 --> 05:27:10.140
very like Dota about these prisoners dilemma type scenarios where like one team if they had a big

05:27:10.140 --> 05:27:15.900
big chronosphere, you know, it's all over, you know, one team, if they hit a big black

05:27:15.900 --> 05:27:20.540
hole, it's all over. If Kaori uses the golem and can't interrupt the black hole, like they're

05:27:20.540 --> 05:27:26.420
not going to win, where the order of operations in the teamfights mattered a lot. It's just

05:27:26.420 --> 05:27:32.100
that Batboom was the team that, like, blundered the least. Like, they made, they won the rock

05:27:32.100 --> 05:27:37.100
paper scissors more times in the teamfights. They also just started everything. Look at

05:27:37.100 --> 05:27:40.940
of the heart of the minimum, right? There's a tier one thousand lives of BB at the 54 minute mark,

05:27:40.940 --> 05:27:45.900
tier twos in both top and bot lane. You're not patient enough. I mean, they need like an extra hour.

05:27:47.740 --> 05:27:53.660
I think most of our highlights are on the dire side of the map, that's for sure. Yes, no, that is,

05:27:53.660 --> 05:27:57.740
I mean, that is of course, goes back towards the draft, what Miro was able to do with that last

05:27:57.740 --> 05:28:02.940
pick of Nigma, but he created so many of these moves that it just ensured that BB were the ones

05:28:02.940 --> 05:28:06.700
there's always thinking how do we go for the next fight, how do we you know be

05:28:06.700 --> 05:28:10.140
this impatient team that can just go crazy. And it does allow them to play

05:28:10.140 --> 05:28:14.100
longer fights as well knowing that there's always gonna be ages on their

05:28:14.100 --> 05:28:19.220
side. Roshan was killed four times. That one hurts. That one hurts not just my

05:28:19.220 --> 05:28:23.940
ears but my eyes as well seeing it miss like this. Yeah three times there were

05:28:23.940 --> 05:28:28.620
the ones holding the ages and that does allow Kiritich to play a bit of a

05:28:28.620 --> 05:28:31.820
different game you know. That's basically a buyback situation when you're

05:28:31.820 --> 05:28:36.060
playing against Krono. This is always going to be a good thing to have. And we are seeing

05:28:36.060 --> 05:28:40.140
a bit of a glitch as well. The triple ulti's that we are seeing with the refresher shard,

05:28:40.140 --> 05:28:46.460
refresher orb, and your normal ability, which is not supposed to be in game, but it is so.

05:28:46.460 --> 05:28:48.300
Luckily, all teams have been doing it.

05:28:48.300 --> 05:28:49.580
Yeah. I mean, everybody knows about it.

05:28:49.580 --> 05:28:50.380
Yes. Everyone knows about it.

05:28:50.380 --> 05:28:51.100
It's a feature.

05:28:51.100 --> 05:28:54.460
Yeah. It's a feature for now. Maybe there'll be a letter patch in like a week's time where it's

05:28:54.460 --> 05:28:57.980
just like the one change. But right now, it's a feature, not a bug.

05:28:57.980 --> 05:29:05.160
I mean, when games are going this late, it definitely matters a lot if the average game

05:29:05.160 --> 05:29:08.960
time was a lot earlier, it wouldn't matter so much because there wouldn't be a refresher

05:29:08.960 --> 05:29:09.960
shards on the ground.

05:29:09.960 --> 05:29:15.640
But I really like how Miro played this game, you know, going for the BKB and the blink

05:29:15.640 --> 05:29:17.760
dagger, not going for the Auras.

05:29:17.760 --> 05:29:20.080
You would think like, why the heck is he doing that?

05:29:20.080 --> 05:29:21.080
You know, he's playing into Warlock.

05:29:21.080 --> 05:29:27.480
He's got the cancel, but Warlock has to get into position, you know, Warlock has to have

05:29:27.480 --> 05:29:32.520
the cast time like all of these things take time and even like one to two seconds on an important hero

05:29:33.000 --> 05:29:37.560
with the damage that they had is enough to kill and this idea of like the threat of the black hole is

05:29:37.560 --> 05:29:42.200
more important than the black hole sure okay five years ago that's just not how it is now it's like

05:29:42.200 --> 05:29:46.840
you have to press button x so they have to press button y so then your team can go on afterwards

05:29:46.840 --> 05:29:50.200
and do something like there's an order of operations that happens in fights it's not as

05:29:50.840 --> 05:29:54.760
simple as like warlock golem answers the black hole though it doesn't work like that anymore

05:29:54.760 --> 05:29:57.120
There's also five blink daggers for the key, right?

05:29:57.120 --> 05:30:00.240
So it's like, there's gonna be multiple options to go find Kaori.

05:30:00.240 --> 05:30:05.760
No, there was a lot of pressure on, uh, undefinitely Miero and his enigma to Lanthar's Black.

05:30:05.760 --> 05:30:09.520
Also, there was a lot of pressure on a lot of people to Lanthar Ultimates and two of them.

05:30:09.520 --> 05:30:12.360
We decided to compare them against each other.

05:30:12.360 --> 05:30:17.840
Nightfall and Miero with the two arguably biggest Ultimates that we should be looking at.

05:30:17.840 --> 05:30:20.680
Yeah, we're pretty much gonna look at the entirety of this grand finals.

05:30:20.680 --> 05:30:23.480
I feel like we'll boil down to Nightfall versus Miero.

05:30:23.480 --> 05:30:27.720
what happens in the laning phase, because at the 12-minute mark, Miro already 5 kills to his name,

05:30:27.720 --> 05:30:31.320
you can look at the net worth, the hero damage, the building damage, it is just a night and day

05:30:31.320 --> 05:30:36.920
difference, what Miro is able to do. And Nightfall, when he loses his lane, his default plan is,

05:30:36.920 --> 05:30:42.440
I need to play for a bigger timing, then like if he's on his Earths or Void and he's winning lane,

05:30:42.440 --> 05:30:47.480
he'll start calling his team, let's go make a move. But when he's under pressure, he kind of defaults

05:30:47.480 --> 05:30:51.400
to a very defensive style of Void, and you know, fast forward to 24 minutes, look at the hero damage,

05:30:51.400 --> 05:30:55.880
right? I think he had about 612 minutes. He got 653 at the 24 minutes.

05:30:55.880 --> 05:31:00.440
He hit somebody once. It might be like one time dilation hit.

05:31:00.440 --> 05:31:05.640
But building damage, no go. Yeah, that's, this is, this is a crazy stat. Yeah,

05:31:05.640 --> 05:31:10.840
Nightfall really does default to old Nightfall a little bit, which obviously

05:31:10.840 --> 05:31:17.160
Nightfall has the highest ppm, that's pings per minute of any player in this tournament by far.

05:31:17.160 --> 05:31:22.840
He was number two for pings per minute in blockia one and he had three average pings per minute this tournament

05:31:22.840 --> 05:31:27.880
He's number one and he has five pings per minute. So he's almost doubled it. So his captain very important

05:31:29.640 --> 05:31:36.200
In this game, he also was helping out with the deep warning because yeah, he was like I can't deal any tower damage

05:31:36.200 --> 05:31:39.720
I'm not really doing too much in the team fights as well. The damage is like six

05:31:39.800 --> 05:31:46.760
You're gonna take 100 but yeah, this was the one where he saw a very good observer. It was sentry

05:31:46.760 --> 05:31:50.980
So I'm not even getting the gold out of it. Very quick reactions coming out there

05:31:50.980 --> 05:31:57.040
But yeah, this is one of the one of the ones that does miss and he did opt to go for level 25

05:31:57.260 --> 05:32:01.780
Talent that gives him extra bit of AOE. So it's easier to land

05:32:01.900 --> 05:32:06.680
It's also better against enigma because you can't fool you in but also I think

05:32:06.900 --> 05:32:12.040
Backtrack is very good and there's gonna be another one where they manage to kill kill the ages

05:32:12.260 --> 05:32:15.980
Sure, you're land the chrono you guess who's inside a chrono. It's Mikoto

05:32:16.760 --> 05:32:22.480
It's the five blink daggers. It's the water. It's so rough a night for like a little mean

05:32:22.480 --> 05:32:25.200
Did he did he flame you in a pub? What is this?

05:32:27.760 --> 05:32:34.640
He's one of my favorite favorite players to watch because there's always something that does happen in the games and it is just like this

05:32:34.640 --> 05:32:40.660
But it was not an easy game for him by any means playing into like triple black hole and then playing into two wind wakers

05:32:40.660 --> 05:32:44.240
So much later stages of the game. It's very hard to let it's like a lot on you

05:32:44.240 --> 05:32:50.840
And it is important to pay attention to the d-words as we do as well Jenkins because you wanted to look at that as well

05:32:50.920 --> 05:32:56.440
Yeah, we wanted to take a look at like what for me is one of the most interesting sequences of events

05:32:56.440 --> 05:33:00.720
I've seen in a long time in Dota, you know, you see this ward where from the spectator perspective

05:33:00.720 --> 05:33:05.320
It looks like well, it's giving barely any vision. We do have to remember this is a spectator

05:33:05.760 --> 05:33:12.400
Perspective so of course there is a sliver of vision and save goes in d-words that kori is in position in the trees over here

05:33:12.400 --> 05:33:19.440
So in de-wording it, like this does give vision of save and it lets Nightfall take a good chronosphere onto Kiritich here

05:33:20.080 --> 05:33:21.760
Even I think cleaning up

05:33:21.760 --> 05:33:25.120
Plus one hero in this scenario and this is where we were like, holy shit

05:33:25.120 --> 05:33:32.300
Imagine if this turns the game for Aurora like what a weird sequence of events like what was he even doing there in the first place on K-O-R-E?

05:33:32.680 --> 05:33:37.940
No, yeah, it was just a really cool ward and I think the observers also showed it was both toggling to die vision

05:33:37.940 --> 05:33:43.060
There was a slight sliver of vision that you see the twin gate and we did want to go to demo mode to remind you like

05:33:43.140 --> 05:33:46.380
Actually how much vision it gives because in the heat in the moment if you did miss it

05:33:46.380 --> 05:33:49.900
You might not have seen it, but it actually gives quite a lot of vision, right?

05:33:49.900 --> 05:33:54.220
You have multiple options where you can place it. It's not like you have to put it in a specific spot

05:33:54.220 --> 05:33:59.180
You just get to see any twin gate rotation. So again, they showed it in the game. They did it

05:33:59.180 --> 05:34:02.900
You know, I genuinely second word action. Very cool war placement from cryo area

05:34:02.900 --> 05:34:09.340
The other day it's Bed Boom that take this window and they take it very late. We were told that the draft was gonna favor

05:34:09.340 --> 05:34:12.620
Maybe over or ever went to late game didn't end up happening

05:34:12.620 --> 05:34:19.640
And so now Bed Boom after an over an hour game one one game up in this best of five can Aurora turn the tides

05:34:19.640 --> 05:34:21.640
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up in this best of five, and we are about to head into game number two. Normally you

05:36:55.740 --> 05:36:59.660
would then reflect on what went wrong potentially in the drafts of the first game, but I feel

05:36:59.660 --> 05:37:05.340
like because the game we just witnessed, I don't know if draft played that big of a portion

05:37:05.340 --> 05:37:09.740
because especially if a game goes towards an hour long,

05:37:09.740 --> 05:37:13.460
it kind of just feels like it is about the button pressing.

05:37:13.460 --> 05:37:16.140
Yeah, I mean, there's an argument for like,

05:37:16.140 --> 05:37:20.660
is Aurora getting trapped in this trap of like,

05:37:20.660 --> 05:37:23.420
let's just pick for the late game, play patient,

05:37:23.420 --> 05:37:26.580
and then eventually the wind will come to us.

05:37:26.580 --> 05:37:29.540
Like maybe they need to play more proactive

05:37:29.540 --> 05:37:32.220
and that can come from gameplay, definitely can,

05:37:32.220 --> 05:37:33.260
even with the heroes they had,

05:37:33.260 --> 05:37:35.220
but it also can kind of come from the draft.

05:37:35.220 --> 05:37:40.620
I can't really blame them. I mean, they had 80 plus minute game against the boom team the other day.

05:37:40.620 --> 05:37:48.620
And what was the most impressive thing for me about that game is that GPK in that 81 minute game on Pango died one time.

05:37:48.620 --> 05:37:53.520
Previous game, he played another Pango game again, died one time in a 60 plus minute game.

05:37:53.520 --> 05:37:56.420
So this might also be another issue that they need to address.

05:37:56.420 --> 05:38:04.320
Like they need to have supports that can rotate, I think having faces void and also having an off laner that doesn't really do much.

05:38:04.320 --> 05:38:08.520
This hero plays for himself for a really long time, Kaia, Aghanim, Scepter.

05:38:08.520 --> 05:38:11.440
He doesn't really contribute as much as you would maybe want to,

05:38:11.440 --> 05:38:15.000
especially when you're playing against a team who's heavily focused on the lanes.

05:38:15.000 --> 05:38:20.040
It's also a matter of Aurora, when they have this mindset of just delay, wait for bigger timings,

05:38:20.040 --> 05:38:21.920
they've not lost the entire game state, right?

05:38:21.920 --> 05:38:27.040
In the Falcons' game too, I think at mostly like a 6.8 net worth for Falcons,

05:38:27.040 --> 05:38:31.240
you can stall out a game like that, but when you're playing against the BB,

05:38:31.240 --> 05:38:33.160
where they've got like 17,000 gold.

05:38:33.160 --> 05:38:35.480
This mentality of patience, it won't really work out.

05:38:35.480 --> 05:38:38.640
Like you need to go and have a successful fight at some point.

05:38:38.640 --> 05:38:40.560
Yeah, we're going to find out if there's going to be any changes

05:38:40.560 --> 05:38:41.920
and adjustments in the drafts.

05:38:41.920 --> 05:38:45.680
We have got Aurora this time on the radiant side,

05:38:45.680 --> 05:38:47.120
dire side for Bed Boom.

05:38:47.120 --> 05:38:49.600
And the pick order got changed about as well.

05:38:49.600 --> 05:38:51.240
So now it is Bed Boom with first pick.

05:38:51.240 --> 05:38:53.520
Aurora with overall last pick.

05:38:53.520 --> 05:38:56.240
And in terms of bands, I see the puck getting

05:38:56.240 --> 05:38:59.360
a little bit of an earlier spot being first phase band

05:38:59.360 --> 05:39:04.760
right now, which means we might have some other usual suspects in the mix, but we still

05:39:04.760 --> 05:39:09.520
have the Alchemist, the Slardar, the Lundruid out together with the Beastmaster, the Oracle

05:39:09.520 --> 05:39:14.520
and the Rubik. The Monkey King makes it through. Queen of Pain is an answer.

05:39:14.520 --> 05:39:18.880
I think Queen of Pain is pretty happy playing into Monkey. There's the laning matchup, if

05:39:18.880 --> 05:39:23.720
that ever, you know, did happen. Obviously very good for Queen of Pain. In the game,

05:39:23.720 --> 05:39:29.960
that Quap can easily blink out of the monkey ring, the pressure that Monkey applies to the map,

05:39:29.960 --> 05:39:35.520
where he's running around constantly, like ganking people, even as a carry, it's just not that much of a threat to Quap.

05:39:35.520 --> 05:39:42.120
But Monkey King is also one of the standout carries of the patch. It's just generally a very good hero.

05:39:42.120 --> 05:39:47.720
They still believe in Quap. Last game performance wasn't really the greatest showing of what Quap can do,

05:39:47.720 --> 05:39:53.520
playing these longer fights, constant chase. If you lose one hero that, for example, doesn't have buyback,

05:39:53.520 --> 05:39:58.560
If you keep chasing with Queen of Pain, you're in such a good spot knowing that the enemy team can't really run away from you.

05:39:58.560 --> 05:40:05.800
He dealt only 33,000 damage in a 60-plus minute game on Queen of Pain, so definitely this game, he feels like he can do it.

05:40:05.800 --> 05:40:10.200
We are seeing the shift of priority. This is something that they do with the puck as well.

05:40:10.200 --> 05:40:15.360
When things go bad for them, they're going to switch things up, pick his hero straight away out of the phase,

05:40:15.360 --> 05:40:23.000
and then maybe, like, not necessarily give him the better game out of it, but say, we still believe that this is the hero that can carry us in the games.

05:40:23.520 --> 05:40:30.540
It's also just looking at the the bands from BB like you always respect in the queen of pain knowing they can overcome it like the cost is mentioning

05:40:30.540 --> 05:40:36.140
But then the bands like unlike to say p vision and other teams what one carry band towards nightfall

05:40:36.140 --> 05:40:39.380
They're not over respecting him. He's not like oh, we have to ban his win ranger

05:40:39.380 --> 05:40:44.280
We need to pick it to think about tiny. It's just you know what one learn drew it. Let's see what happens in the draft

05:40:44.760 --> 05:40:51.260
Yeah, the hero that got let through as well, which maybe should be on our radar was first phase band last game is the

05:40:51.260 --> 05:40:57.540
Cez, of course more a hero for Bedboom than for Aurora, but it's definitely something that we should be aware about

05:40:57.620 --> 05:41:01.320
We got the lion coming out of phase. I think both teams are

05:41:01.940 --> 05:41:06.140
Generally a little short on position force if the Rubik and Toothpink are out

05:41:06.140 --> 05:41:10.100
But I think for both of these teams, especially with the Windranger still in the mix

05:41:10.460 --> 05:41:12.860
Don't know if we've got much to worry about. I

05:41:13.640 --> 05:41:17.580
Love silent. I just love silencer in this man. I see these two heroes

05:41:17.580 --> 05:41:21.940
It does feel very good. It does allow you to have overwhelming team fight

05:41:22.140 --> 05:41:27.280
There was a game yesterday when they last picked Lion in a game against Bed Boom as well

05:41:27.280 --> 05:41:29.940
And he had a pretty bad game throughout the whole game

05:41:29.940 --> 05:41:36.560
Sure, you have extra bit of a burst combined with the Queen of Pain extra magical plus pure so you can always burst down heroes and

05:41:37.260 --> 05:41:40.080
Yeah, the silence is pretty just it's too good to skip on

05:41:41.380 --> 05:41:45.620
Just simplifies your game like if you have a fight position that forces other people to itemize

05:41:45.620 --> 05:41:49.820
might differently that's already like a net win in my opinion right like that's

05:41:49.820 --> 05:41:53.780
way to pain we know the build right it's I've a bloodstone rush act it's I've a

05:41:53.780 --> 05:41:58.220
sounded kaya acts if now you're thinking of loaded motors be yeah it feels like

05:41:58.220 --> 05:42:03.420
shit yeah it really does feel bad I honestly I totally agree I think one of

05:42:03.420 --> 05:42:07.300
the big reasons we're seeing Queen of Pain be such a strong heroes like the

05:42:07.300 --> 05:42:12.940
abuse of bloodstone and the veil build up and you know soul ring build I know

05:42:12.940 --> 05:42:18.400
Some people have been going back for the Kaia, but the build on her has evolved and now you're

05:42:18.400 --> 05:42:22.460
pushing her into something that never really felt that great.

05:42:22.460 --> 05:42:25.780
I'd like to see maybe WS on Mars.

05:42:25.780 --> 05:42:30.860
He had a very good game, especially against BedBoom team the other day when he was playing

05:42:30.860 --> 05:42:34.860
against Silencer and he was the one getting the initial jump multiple times and then

05:42:34.860 --> 05:42:37.180
Silencer doesn't really feel that comfortable.

05:42:37.180 --> 05:42:42.460
fee is initiated on you might need to be able to like get a get a silence like

05:42:42.460 --> 05:42:46.780
from the distance or you need to be able to maybe have a buyback available and

05:42:46.780 --> 05:42:50.380
what's the 17th because you're just you're two for two now all right what

05:42:50.380 --> 05:42:53.260
do they need they need a position five for K.O.R.I.

05:42:53.260 --> 05:42:56.900
well it's Phoenix it's Phoenix

05:42:56.900 --> 05:43:04.220
it's the silencer so probably not so I think maybe Venom just throw it in the

05:43:04.220 --> 05:43:09.680
like it's very difficult for monkey to like the Oracle has predicted Venom answer

05:43:10.280 --> 05:43:12.280
let's see on

05:43:12.600 --> 05:43:17.780
A roll too many two minutes left for Carrie's pick. That's a rough one. That's not enough time. I think

05:43:18.740 --> 05:43:21.460
It did yesterday's game where they did win

05:43:22.100 --> 05:43:27.320
Against the silencer. It was a pretty clear problem that bedroom had in that game where they couldn't

05:43:27.680 --> 05:43:30.260
They couldn't be the one to initiate that was their problem

05:43:30.260 --> 05:43:33.020
They always had to wait for the Mars to go in and then they counter initiated

05:43:33.020 --> 05:43:41.060
but the silence was first. So, is there another way that Bethelon can react to the Mars by

05:43:41.060 --> 05:43:45.820
just having a hero that goes in before the Mars does so that they can use the silence

05:43:45.820 --> 05:43:46.820
aggressively?

05:43:46.820 --> 05:43:49.820
To me, that's like what Pango does.

05:43:49.820 --> 05:43:51.980
And then Tide and Pango.

05:43:51.980 --> 05:43:56.940
Yeah, Tide and Pango are both very good at this. They don't really care about the Mars

05:43:56.940 --> 05:44:02.100
arena. Tide can crack and shell off all the stuns and bullshit that Aurora has, and Pango

05:44:02.100 --> 05:44:05.500
just rolls in spell immune, you know, I mean it's just kind of a cool draw from

05:44:05.500 --> 05:44:09.820
BB the idea of Aurora picking their mid and four position not showing what the

05:44:09.820 --> 05:44:14.340
safe lane is so then BB had to pick up a mid lane and five to just protect

05:44:14.340 --> 05:44:17.820
Miro and save from Nightfall getting the perfect pick right yeah and that is why

05:44:17.820 --> 05:44:21.860
we kind of progressed to of course having saves hero get picked last is just

05:44:21.860 --> 05:44:24.860
really making sure that Nightfall doesn't get his free entry to the game

05:44:24.860 --> 05:44:28.220
you pick tide you ban Ursa and it's like you don't want to pick faces void now

05:44:28.220 --> 05:44:31.260
right it's just a tight hunter he's gonna have completely free farm and the

05:44:31.260 --> 05:44:35.300
tiny as well. Sure you can buy Silvered but Mirror will free farm and that's

05:44:35.300 --> 05:44:38.820
maybe why they haven't been banning out his heroes as they know with pick 18

05:44:38.820 --> 05:44:42.600
tight hunter and other heroes there's ways to force Nightfall into a different

05:44:42.600 --> 05:44:48.440
direction. But even like Windranger... Yeah you got a bandwinder on R2 and the SD band is

05:44:48.440 --> 05:44:51.940
coming out. I mean that is also a very cool band because Shadow Demon has lost

05:44:51.940 --> 05:44:56.620
favor but into the type of fight Aurora has you disrupt, combo break them, you're

05:44:56.620 --> 05:44:59.820
gonna help win the fight and you might even bait the Windranger ban out

05:44:59.820 --> 05:45:02.800
because you've done it yourself I think you yeah I think you have to ban winner

05:45:02.800 --> 05:45:07.720
and it's just like these you these baits are never good to take you know what I

05:45:07.720 --> 05:45:11.100
mean like you or you never you never actually want to not just pick the

05:45:11.100 --> 05:45:14.120
hero that's really good it's like oh what are they what are they doing what can

05:45:14.120 --> 05:45:18.160
we do to counter it's just ban it I could be okay this is something that he

05:45:18.160 --> 05:45:23.240
plays it's a ring master they could definitely use the save whoever gets

05:45:23.240 --> 05:45:27.240
initiated on it's very good against lion it's another circle that you can throw

05:45:27.240 --> 05:45:36.740
inside of the arena, because this is where they want to be grouping up. They want to use all of these big AOE spells to get like the pushback with the Sonic Wave, Fatal Bonds, Golem on top of that.

05:45:36.740 --> 05:45:40.940
Try to burst one guy. For now, he's going to be Vindranger because he plays.

05:45:40.940 --> 05:45:41.740
That's what I was saying.

05:45:41.740 --> 05:45:49.140
Yeah, it's just too good of a pick. He feels too comfortable on the hero. Nobody else wants to touch it because they are seeing something else because he goes to the mid lane.

05:45:49.140 --> 05:45:57.040
He helps with every single rune. He always does have that kill threat. And also difficult hero to kill. Like if his mid laner is making an action

05:45:57.040 --> 05:46:01.660
or farming in the jungle. He can be in the mid lane and be like, you know what, you can

05:46:01.660 --> 05:46:03.960
go with me, I'm very difficult to kill.

05:46:03.960 --> 05:46:07.600
There's so many fun options to save, right? There's like the ring monster that I'm of

05:46:07.600 --> 05:46:11.260
course mentioning for a skate pack that keeps her light with Illuminate Hills, and there's

05:46:11.260 --> 05:46:16.300
Dark Willow, a classic just to terrorize her into the mix with a skirmishing fight of BB.

05:46:16.300 --> 05:46:20.120
There are so many different angles to save to take. The Titan, because it's such a strong

05:46:20.120 --> 05:46:24.440
off lane, your full play kind of has freedom on what he wants. So if they want to respect

05:46:24.440 --> 05:46:27.880
the hill, they'll go for the corner. If they want to go for this combo break, they'll go

05:46:27.880 --> 05:46:30.840
for ringmaster. If they want to go for fight, they'll go for willow and there's so many

05:46:30.840 --> 05:46:36.160
other options. It really is just unsafe to say pick me this and let's play. The first

05:46:36.160 --> 05:46:39.000
four heroes just overlap very nicely together.

05:46:39.000 --> 05:46:44.840
But he doesn't have to say yes. I think both teams have an abnormally large amount of time

05:46:44.840 --> 05:46:48.680
to play with here in the final stages of this draft. It still will be the ringmaster in

05:46:48.680 --> 05:46:50.880
the instant locking off the doom.

05:46:50.880 --> 05:46:56.060
Yeah, they want to have something that's going to be able to deal with this tight hunter throughout the game

05:46:56.100 --> 05:47:00.180
It's also Valakia. It's also doom nightfall carry

05:47:00.180 --> 05:47:05.400
I just hope we are not going to be seeing potentially a game breaking bug with the buybacks

05:47:08.080 --> 05:47:10.860
Come on, I mean, that's nice. He can yeah

05:47:11.520 --> 05:47:16.340
Well, the facets are gone. We don't have to we don't have to worry about that. Bye. Bye. It's all good. Yeah

05:47:16.340 --> 05:47:22.260
Well, either way, Aurora, I think they have just gone for a very stable looking lineup.

05:47:22.260 --> 05:47:24.180
The team fight is on their side.

05:47:24.180 --> 05:47:28.940
They have the ability to progress them up very nicely, and it's on BB just to try and

05:47:28.940 --> 05:47:29.940
punish them.

05:47:29.940 --> 05:47:33.500
It's all about have they navigated the doom, have they survived it?

05:47:33.500 --> 05:47:36.620
If they survived the arena as well, then they can just win the fights.

05:47:36.620 --> 05:47:38.540
They're very skirmishing in that nature.

05:47:38.540 --> 05:47:42.940
I feel like this is just another long-looking game for the team.

05:47:42.940 --> 05:47:44.620
It does look long.

05:47:44.620 --> 05:47:47.140
And I feel like again, if the game goes super late game,

05:47:47.140 --> 05:47:48.580
I'd really like Aurora's line up.

05:47:48.580 --> 05:47:50.340
Maybe part of it is like Queen of Pain

05:47:50.340 --> 05:47:51.900
with a decent supporting cast.

05:47:51.900 --> 05:47:53.060
If it'll bones all this.

05:47:53.060 --> 05:47:55.140
Yeah, it's so much damage.

05:47:55.140 --> 05:47:58.260
Doom late game is crazy good too.

05:47:58.260 --> 05:48:00.660
Like picking up the ancient creep, cleave,

05:48:00.660 --> 05:48:02.020
and like running around the map,

05:48:02.020 --> 05:48:04.900
cleaving everything, double devour.

05:48:04.900 --> 05:48:07.380
We saw on Maar yesterday, like having a ravage.

05:48:07.380 --> 05:48:09.380
It becomes like very big as well.

05:48:09.380 --> 05:48:12.380
Just having a counter ravage for the other side as well.

05:48:12.380 --> 05:48:17.200
But I feel like Betboom, like it's going to be an easier game for Nightfall to play.

05:48:17.200 --> 05:48:21.920
He has much better entry to the game knowing that, you know, you can actually deal the damage you can lane,

05:48:21.920 --> 05:48:25.020
and you can always farm on this hero, so it feels good.

05:48:25.020 --> 05:48:30.020
I don't think they're going to be having any damage issues, but also got to respect what they have inside of Betboom.

05:48:30.020 --> 05:48:34.120
I'm still leaning towards Betboom, but I think Aurora Gaming have a much better drive than in Game 1.

05:48:34.120 --> 05:48:39.240
Mid lane matchup, right? When you have draft like this, where the side lanes are very happy to hit creeps and scale,

05:48:39.240 --> 05:48:43.720
you are looking towards the Quarantine clear both in the player's hands have kind of broke open games

05:48:43.720 --> 05:48:48.120
this could be the X factor to then get the dual line to never have a fight go the other teams way

05:48:48.120 --> 05:48:54.120
right so I'm just looking at you know Makoto and GPK yeah we have a similar same matchup as a previous

05:48:54.120 --> 05:49:00.680
game in terms of that mid matchup and I know Lacoste wanted more focus onto the pango will it

05:49:00.680 --> 05:49:07.160
come will this pango die more than once ah that's a problemo because a bit boom what they do is they

05:49:07.160 --> 05:49:10.800
out number of opponents to

05:49:10.800 --> 05:49:11.400
support. Four minutes, six

05:49:11.400 --> 05:49:12.800
minutes, and they're going to

05:49:12.800 --> 05:49:14.440
be playing good pretty much

05:49:14.440 --> 05:49:15.840
constantly with their mid laner

05:49:15.840 --> 05:49:16.640
and making sure that he's

05:49:16.640 --> 05:49:17.840
having a good time. Sometimes

05:49:17.840 --> 05:49:19.040
you'll see Miero as well. Come

05:49:19.040 --> 05:49:20.440
for the six come for the eight

05:49:20.440 --> 05:49:21.040
minute rune. So that's what

05:49:21.040 --> 05:49:22.640
they do. Just outnumbered the

05:49:22.640 --> 05:49:23.640
opponents. All right, we're

05:49:23.640 --> 05:49:25.440
going to find out what's going

05:49:25.440 --> 05:49:26.920
to happen in a game. Number two

05:49:26.920 --> 05:49:28.120
is coming your way. But first,

05:49:28.120 --> 05:49:29.320
we are going to check him in

05:49:29.320 --> 05:49:30.720
slacks who has found KP.

05:49:30.720 --> 05:49:32.160
That's right, my friends. Let's

05:49:32.160 --> 05:49:33.720
have a long and hard interview

05:49:33.720 --> 05:49:35.560
here, KP. Now, uh, big

05:49:35.560 --> 05:49:43.560
What did you learn from the last series? Pro players say all the time, the best thing you can do to win is to lose, so what did you learn from game 1?

05:49:43.560 --> 05:49:47.560
Uh, learn f**k up level 1, team 5 better?

05:49:47.560 --> 05:49:52.560
Well we can watch right here as the boys are f**king up level 1, hold up.

05:49:52.560 --> 05:49:55.560
Okay wait wait wait, oh shi- I just jinxed it.

05:49:55.560 --> 05:50:00.560
Well no worries, f**k they almost killed, that's okay.

05:50:00.560 --> 05:50:07.000
They lost a lot of HP, they have to go home, they have to use like 5 tangos, 5 salves, it's okay guys, don't worry about it.

05:50:07.000 --> 05:50:13.880
That's actually pretty meta, okay well done there. Let's ignore that absolute disaster that just happened and talk a little bit about the Fatch up here.

05:50:13.880 --> 05:50:22.680
Qwap, hero of the tournament, you guys made sure to secure that very quickly. What is a bad game to pick Qwap? When would you not first pick Qwap?

05:50:22.680 --> 05:50:30.240
You're just trying to get information out of me, I'm not trying to get information out of you, I'm not a spy, it's my job to talk to you and you guys first pick Qwap.

05:50:30.240 --> 05:50:32.520
So it doesn't mean anything. So what's a bad game to pick?

05:50:32.520 --> 05:50:34.680
Well, that's like a few counters to this year.

05:50:34.680 --> 05:50:36.680
I mean, it's no secret like Pox good against it.

05:50:37.200 --> 05:50:39.240
Husker teams would pick Husker into it.

05:50:39.240 --> 05:50:41.800
Yeah, I mean, you guys, I can tell you guys this.

05:50:42.480 --> 05:50:43.680
Fantastic. What about Doom?

05:50:44.200 --> 05:50:45.280
Doom last picked here.

05:50:45.280 --> 05:50:47.520
Obviously, another big hero of the tournament.

05:50:47.720 --> 05:50:50.440
Is there someone in particular when you see someone like a monkey

05:50:50.440 --> 05:50:52.760
or a tide and you're like, yeah, Doom is the way to go?

05:50:54.800 --> 05:50:57.360
Not really. Like just, yeah.

05:50:57.360 --> 05:50:59.840
I'm just trying to think like

05:51:01.200 --> 05:51:05.120
You can always do the target every game so you can just pick this here every game guys. Don't I just pick it

05:51:05.720 --> 05:51:08.960
Okay, we we actually got a little bit of info so I appreciate you

05:51:08.960 --> 05:51:11.880
I am Mike and Dolan says here on the four deaths here

05:51:11.880 --> 05:51:16.120
But we're gonna let this man get into the game and get ready to chastise his team for game three

05:51:16.160 --> 05:51:18.760
Let's go in the game to with our wonderful castors

05:51:20.440 --> 05:51:22.440
Wow that was awkward

05:51:22.440 --> 05:51:27.280
That's amazing. It takes me back to the, it was a landmine interview at TI, right?

05:51:27.280 --> 05:51:30.280
Oh yeah, we were casting now. That was so good.

05:51:30.280 --> 05:51:34.080
We just attract these interviews while one team is being bodied.

05:51:34.080 --> 05:51:41.160
Oh man, 4 for nothing and Miara, who is so close to death, denies himself to Roche.

05:51:41.160 --> 05:51:45.960
So Aurora get nothing. They're already down 1k in the laning stage.

05:51:45.960 --> 05:51:48.200
Normally that's when you get 4 bounties on a team.

05:51:48.200 --> 05:51:50.640
And in addition to that, one of the heroes was Sonser.

05:51:50.640 --> 05:51:52.920
He's starting the lane with four extra ints.

05:51:52.920 --> 05:51:54.080
Oh my god, that's right.

05:51:54.080 --> 05:51:55.080
Laning into Lion and Mars.

05:51:55.080 --> 05:51:57.000
Did you catch who got actual first blood?

05:51:57.000 --> 05:51:57.880
I didn't catch that.

05:51:57.880 --> 05:51:59.200
I think it was GPK.

05:51:59.200 --> 05:52:02.240
Yeah, he got first blood just like in the previous game.

05:52:02.240 --> 05:52:06.000
He's going to be laning into QWAP with an inherent advantage.

05:52:06.000 --> 05:52:09.120
Yeah, it's really not a great start for Aurora,

05:52:09.120 --> 05:52:11.120
no matter how you spin it.

05:52:11.120 --> 05:52:13.000
I like that KP was trying to be positive.

05:52:13.000 --> 05:52:14.800
Yeah, you have to go back to base.

05:52:14.800 --> 05:52:16.040
Yeah, OK.

05:52:16.040 --> 05:52:19.080
And again, another kill on the bot lane as save.

05:52:19.080 --> 05:52:23.600
We talked about these knives being incredible now that you get the three charges right off the bat.

05:52:23.600 --> 05:52:28.400
And he's got the unicycle ready to go, send her so you can go mid lane and fuck him up there as well.

05:52:28.400 --> 05:52:29.920
That's right, go for a little ride.

05:52:29.920 --> 05:52:32.000
You can definitely leave Tide alone.

05:52:32.000 --> 05:52:37.280
This hero is not going to die to Warlock Doom, at least it shouldn't, in the laning stage.

05:52:37.280 --> 05:52:42.160
Speaking of, Carrie Doom might actually be on the receiving end here tonight.

05:52:42.160 --> 05:52:44.800
Yeah, he gets webbed, anchor smashed, and dead.

05:52:44.800 --> 05:52:48.200
What a disastrous start for Aurora.

05:52:48.200 --> 05:52:52.000
Not how you recover from game one, I think.

05:52:52.000 --> 05:52:55.200
Not an expert, but, you know, I don't think starting with six gets to a match.

05:52:55.200 --> 05:52:57.800
Can we look at the Dota plus percentage?

05:52:57.800 --> 05:53:00.560
I'm curious how much they care about this.

05:53:00.560 --> 05:53:02.200
76% for Diarr.

05:53:02.200 --> 05:53:03.520
Already, wow.

05:53:03.520 --> 05:53:04.760
I mean, wow.

05:53:04.760 --> 05:53:05.760
Love this talking point.

05:53:05.760 --> 05:53:08.360
We obviously believe in it fully.

05:53:08.360 --> 05:53:09.800
Changing by the second here, isn't it?

05:53:09.800 --> 05:53:10.840
ChatGPT.

05:53:10.840 --> 05:53:13.840
So let's talk Kerry Doom for a second.

05:53:13.840 --> 05:53:16.400
When 741 came out, Knight fully immediately

05:53:16.400 --> 05:53:21.120
played this in his very first game. When Carrie Doom is good, he loves that. He

05:53:21.120 --> 05:53:24.860
ran it largely because of the 66 damage talent, which is now on level 20. That was

05:53:24.860 --> 05:53:30.780
on level 15 in 741. Doom has received multiple nerfs and even if it's a good

05:53:30.780 --> 05:53:35.240
Carrie Doom game, I'm a little bit hesitant to really get on board with it

05:53:35.240 --> 05:53:42.420
because I think you're kind of going to be slow to build up. Your true output

05:53:42.420 --> 05:53:48.180
as a carry doesn't come until later than other carries I would say you're like a good anti-carry

05:53:48.180 --> 05:53:51.780
you know you're gonna doom some guy you're gonna make his fight miserable but are you gonna be

05:53:51.780 --> 05:53:56.500
the guy who kills three heroes in a team fight unless you have a good start I'm not so sure I

05:53:56.500 --> 05:54:01.940
think this hero is kind of slow on the other side you have monkey king who is very fast and can be

05:54:01.940 --> 05:54:08.820
super active around the map the pango we saw in the last game from GPK I'm kind of worried for

05:54:08.820 --> 05:54:13.580
for Aurora that were going to fall into the same game state where they lose a little bit

05:54:13.580 --> 05:54:16.980
early in the lanes, then they don't really make too many moves because Doom is going

05:54:16.980 --> 05:54:20.460
to be farming a lot and jungling a lot, and then you have these two big ults in Warlock

05:54:20.460 --> 05:54:23.900
and Mars that you don't want to fight but can't really.

05:54:23.900 --> 05:54:28.420
I hope for Aurora's sake that they don't fall into that same game state once more because

05:54:28.420 --> 05:54:33.500
I think this game, I would give them worse chances actually later down the line.

05:54:33.500 --> 05:54:36.940
Luckily, when you say that it doesn't really mean anything.

05:54:36.940 --> 05:54:37.940
That's right.

05:54:37.940 --> 05:54:38.940
in.

05:54:38.940 --> 05:54:39.940
That's right.

05:54:39.940 --> 05:54:40.940
Makoto getting gone.

05:54:40.940 --> 05:54:41.940
Very selective memory as usual.

05:54:41.940 --> 05:54:42.940
No, that's very...

05:54:42.940 --> 05:54:46.900
Hey, we have a podcast where you have owed me how many dinners now?

05:54:46.900 --> 05:54:50.100
There's a difference between predicting before tournaments and after draft.

05:54:50.100 --> 05:54:51.100
K.O.R.I.

05:54:51.100 --> 05:54:55.940
Under the tower, healing up thanks to the Shadow Ward, I was just going to tank it up and save

05:54:55.940 --> 05:54:56.940
and company.

05:54:56.940 --> 05:54:58.460
We'll be able to get another kill to their name.

05:54:58.460 --> 05:54:59.460
It's going to cost them anything.

05:54:59.460 --> 05:55:00.960
There's Knifeful doing some considerable damage.

05:55:00.960 --> 05:55:02.460
It's going to get whipped though.

05:55:02.460 --> 05:55:04.980
MIR should be able to get away now.

05:55:04.980 --> 05:55:08.460
as a beast on this hero too, just to add it to, you know, the credentials we gave him

05:55:08.460 --> 05:55:09.460
last game.

05:55:09.460 --> 05:55:11.140
I think it's his first game of the tournament on Ringmaster, though.

05:55:11.140 --> 05:55:12.140
Is it?

05:55:12.140 --> 05:55:13.620
Yeah, they haven't really been running it on him.

05:55:13.620 --> 05:55:17.020
I think Katz only might have played it before, but if I'm not mistaken, this was Save's

05:55:17.020 --> 05:55:20.740
very first Ringmaster game, and while he's looking like he's played it every game, he's

05:55:20.740 --> 05:55:26.660
been in 7 kills out of 7, um, just beast mode so far.

05:55:26.660 --> 05:55:30.620
You talked about how Doom is not the traditional carry, I would say, I mean, obviously that's

05:55:30.620 --> 05:55:34.580
true, but I feel like this hero here can be your carry from the mid lane.

05:55:34.580 --> 05:55:38.780
We've seen it actually played as a position one a couple of times as well.

05:55:38.820 --> 05:55:39.020
Yeah.

05:55:39.500 --> 05:55:44.060
But I think the issue I have other than them feeding relentlessly to start this

05:55:44.060 --> 05:55:48.740
game, of course, that goes without saying the Mars Mars in this tournament has

05:55:48.740 --> 05:55:49.820
looked pretty bad.

05:55:49.820 --> 05:55:50.820
I don't know how you feel about it.

05:55:50.820 --> 05:55:53.500
I don't know what is off about this hero right now.

05:55:53.500 --> 05:55:57.780
Obviously that rebuke was off there for WS and the balance not going to be there

05:55:57.780 --> 05:55:58.660
because of the spear.

05:55:58.700 --> 05:55:59.580
I might still reach it.

05:56:00.100 --> 05:56:00.340
Yeah.

05:56:00.420 --> 05:56:04.020
He's going to take out another int going away of Kat to owe me.

05:56:04.020 --> 05:56:06.260
He was silenced too, so that was plus two.

05:56:07.820 --> 05:56:12.820
It's an interesting change to that innate, where you get plus one end if they're silenced when they die.

05:56:14.020 --> 05:56:18.320
So, yeah, I'm with you, though. WS is one and two in the hero of this tournament.

05:56:18.320 --> 05:56:20.320
What do you think it is about the hero?

05:56:20.320 --> 05:56:24.020
That's, cuz, I feel like not too long, this was the off-lane hero.

05:56:24.020 --> 05:56:31.620
Yeah, I'm not quite sure, to be honest. The changes, I mean, the losing facets was a big deal for this hero, I think.

05:56:31.620 --> 05:56:34.620
and I don't think he was compensated the same way as other heroes were.

05:56:34.620 --> 05:56:38.620
I think his aggs for the most part is pretty bad.

05:56:38.620 --> 05:56:45.620
It's a way of getting back your victory feast facet, but it's really expensive.

05:56:45.620 --> 05:56:51.620
So I think a big part of this is that other offlaners got hit less by the facet's removals.

05:56:51.620 --> 05:56:55.620
Was he big in 741 right when the facets were removed? I don't think so.

05:56:55.620 --> 05:56:57.620
Maybe I'm wrong though.

05:56:57.620 --> 05:57:03.560
It all blends a bit together, there's a lot of tournaments.

05:57:03.560 --> 05:57:06.960
Everything you say blends together as well, everything you have found is Mira gonna get

05:57:06.960 --> 05:57:09.840
gone as Mira is gonna miss the Impale.

05:57:09.840 --> 05:57:15.880
Now the knives are gonna be raining from below, Mira gets the anchor smash to try to mitigate

05:57:15.880 --> 05:57:20.960
some damage on the nightfall, looks like they will run him down eventually.

05:57:20.960 --> 05:57:24.000
Impale, Earth Spike, what's the difference?

05:57:24.000 --> 05:57:29.000
of death, Laguna Blade, what's the difference? Hex? Hex, what's the difference?

05:57:29.000 --> 05:57:33.000
Yeah, I know you love complaining about that.

05:57:33.000 --> 05:57:39.000
Got to owe me again, this time he's the one being taken out as the Scream of Pain finds him, Makoto.

05:57:39.000 --> 05:57:44.000
There's a couple of pretty good picks here for Aurora to stabilize the game, that was quite meaningful.

05:57:44.000 --> 05:57:47.000
And I talked some negatives about Doom, let's talk some positives here.

05:57:47.000 --> 05:57:53.000
First of all, one of the best heroes against Tide, because he can't crack an off Doom, it's just going to stick.

05:57:53.000 --> 05:57:56.720
You can do him the Monkey King so he can't heal, also very valuable.

05:57:56.720 --> 05:58:01.520
You have a good lane matchup into Tide in theory because you have percentage base damage with the Infernal Blade

05:58:01.520 --> 05:58:04.000
and Tide doesn't really play that aggressively so that's also good.

05:58:04.000 --> 05:58:08.000
It's not that I don't get why they picked it. I think it's a good pick for the most part.

05:58:08.000 --> 05:58:13.600
I think it's significantly worse than it was in 741 in the beginning of the patch.

05:58:13.600 --> 05:58:19.800
And I'm looking to see if Nightfall can show why he rated it as an overall first pick in 741.

05:58:19.800 --> 05:58:22.100
Because this is the first time he plays it in the tournament, right?

05:58:22.100 --> 05:58:25.260
This is clearly not on his radar as a go-to.

05:58:25.260 --> 05:58:29.820
I personally just like the Federer as an off-laner right now.

05:58:29.820 --> 05:58:34.740
Taking some curse damage, GPK forcing him out.

05:58:34.740 --> 05:58:39.700
Is he going for the

05:58:39.700 --> 05:58:44.020
mage slayer again? No, he's going to be diffused a little bit this time.

05:58:44.020 --> 05:58:47.300
Maybe feels like the

05:58:47.300 --> 05:58:55.100
I'd say the equation swings when you're not putting this on a Largo. The off-laner Mars

05:58:55.100 --> 05:59:00.140
doesn't care at all about it. Doom does though. Yeah, it's decent to match Slayer

05:59:00.140 --> 05:59:03.260
the Doom, but you're kind of, I guess you're expecting them to get a relatively

05:59:03.260 --> 05:59:10.980
early VQV. I mean, I love Diffuse, so yeah, it's good. Good to see that there's

05:59:10.980 --> 05:59:14.580
variation in these builds. Also, there's a bit of a difference in terms of his

05:59:14.580 --> 05:59:18.440
supporting cast right they don't have that much lockdown between ringmaster and

05:59:18.440 --> 05:59:23.160
silencer so maybe you're trying to find WS is gonna take a knife to the side as

05:59:23.160 --> 05:59:28.240
well here it is jumps in everything at the full of jingu sex because now you

05:59:28.240 --> 05:59:33.400
recycle away good bye ringmaster arena comes out actually do find the connection

05:59:33.400 --> 05:59:37.680
onto the monkey king along with the doom so keratich taken out early rotation

05:59:37.680 --> 05:59:43.280
from nightfall that changed and new and improved nightfall making his impact

05:59:43.280 --> 05:59:43.780
No.

05:59:45.780 --> 05:59:49.480
Does it find another spear connection onto the trees? Kat Daomi should be fine, though.

05:59:50.480 --> 05:59:54.480
GPK completely missing, but they should be able to kill off WS nonetheless.

05:59:54.880 --> 05:59:58.680
Just an overplay. He's going to be disappointed in that one WS. That was his choice.

05:59:59.480 --> 06:00:05.080
Chasing down the silencer. Not really close to the kill. Nobody was backing him up and kind of just ends up bleeding one out there.

06:00:06.680 --> 06:00:07.180
Okay.

06:00:08.480 --> 06:00:10.980
Kirito's going to TP mid to try to get some farm here.

06:00:10.980 --> 06:00:17.980
Putting some pressure on him with the quap in line, but they can't really commit for the kill yet.

06:00:17.980 --> 06:00:22.980
Oh, Nightfall's here too.

06:00:22.980 --> 06:00:26.980
Oh wow. Despite not having to do it, they can get back to back kills on this game.

06:00:26.980 --> 06:00:30.980
Makoto, Sonic Wave onto Kira Titch. Can he get Lotus, I believe, from save?

06:00:30.980 --> 06:00:32.980
Maybe that was the Tonic, actually.

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That's right, he got a little nice drink.

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Lucky it wasn't a Unicycle.

06:00:38.980 --> 06:00:45.540
I think it would have lived a cordless attack, but very safe like this. That's a sonic out the window

06:00:45.540 --> 06:00:47.540
It's time spent from doom

06:00:48.260 --> 06:00:50.260
Without killing him

06:00:50.540 --> 06:00:52.420
But quite stabilized once again

06:00:52.420 --> 06:00:56.780
I thought this game could get out of hand very quickly for Aurora with that travesty of a start they had yeah

06:00:56.780 --> 06:00:58.980
I'm impressed. This looks pretty stable now

06:00:59.500 --> 06:01:02.100
Pretty even you have okay support levels

06:01:02.540 --> 06:01:06.860
You'd like to get a six on line before minute 14 of course, so they're gonna give him some priority in mid

06:01:06.860 --> 06:01:11.060
sharing it with Kaori for now but Kaori is almost six so now he can start

06:01:11.060 --> 06:01:17.180
splitting off and let Mira have a little bit of solo time here. Needs to be

06:01:17.180 --> 06:01:22.980
careful not to die while having set time though. It does get the Hex off and the

06:01:22.980 --> 06:01:30.340
Impale. GPK gonna continue though. It's getting started. Has another swash for the road.

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How come the Ringmaster's not picked more often? The Nives we've talked about being

06:01:35.500 --> 06:01:40.460
He's super strong in the landing stage and the box, having a save is really important.

06:01:40.460 --> 06:01:43.660
Makoto, rolling thunder is going to hit him, knife as well.

06:01:43.660 --> 06:01:46.580
I don't think they could really have anything from him.

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Ambitious.

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The reason he's not being picked more is that I think there's just higher priority picks

06:01:51.380 --> 06:01:54.980
that are let through a lot in the supporting position for him to be.

06:01:54.980 --> 06:01:57.340
He's like a solid A tier, I think.

06:01:57.340 --> 06:02:00.020
Yeah, but why would you say he's not in that next tier?

06:02:00.020 --> 06:02:03.140
What's he missing that the others have?

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Reliable alt I guess is the biggest part. Yep. We've talked about that yesterday as well

06:02:08.120 --> 06:02:13.300
So something like you're comparing this hero to picking something like say Phoenix or Rubik

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Or hoodwink

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It's just we love wonder it can be very good

06:02:19.040 --> 06:02:23.980
But a lot of the time is not very easy to use whereas these other heroes have more

06:02:25.100 --> 06:02:29.060
If they like stability if they just lowered the time of the role

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Yeah, that would probably be enough. It's a very easy spell to buff. Yes, no doubt about that

06:02:36.740 --> 06:02:41.080
But I do think I kind of like that it is a difficult spell to hit I

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Think if this were really easy to use it wouldn't be as impressive and as cool and it actually finds a big fight

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And it's a good way of balancing the hero to not give him everything like you said he has damage wave clear save

06:02:55.240 --> 06:03:01.720
strong laning. Yeah it feels like he has a little bit of everything for sure. So so he has to have one thing that I would say valve is

06:03:01.720 --> 06:03:05.000
listening I know you tuned me out and Cinder and just pretend you're I'm Cinder

06:03:05.000 --> 06:03:09.880
right now robot mode. If you could add something to Unicycle where if you

06:03:09.880 --> 06:03:15.320
Unicycle into an enemy hero yeah it does like 400 damage. It's hard to

06:03:15.320 --> 06:03:18.320
accomplish all you have to do is hit them and they're off the Unicycle. That would

06:03:18.320 --> 06:03:23.000
be hype I would go hoarse with how much I'm screaming. What if Unicycle was this

06:03:23.000 --> 06:03:32.040
old. That's also a possibility. The Wheel of Wonder was a souvenir. It's a super rare souvenir.

06:03:32.040 --> 06:03:35.480
I don't know if you're going to get it. Oh yeah, you'll love that. It's like a 5% chance.

06:03:35.480 --> 06:03:39.720
Yeah, some like low chance to get something really cool. That reminds me of a certain leader

06:03:39.720 --> 06:03:46.520
in Relic Arena. Valve likes loot boxes. They have an encounter strike and Dota now.

06:03:46.520 --> 06:03:52.680
now yes well they're in you it's a little let's not get into the minutiae here

06:03:52.680 --> 06:03:56.920
cinderella all right I'm correct though whether I'm thinking about it at least I

06:03:56.920 --> 06:03:59.880
mean you're you're not wrong in saying we have it now but we also did have it

06:03:59.880 --> 06:04:05.960
years ago no comment let's not go down this road cinderella I don't know what

06:04:05.960 --> 06:04:09.640
road that is but just shut your mouth okay the unicycle road is what we're

06:04:09.640 --> 06:04:13.360
talking about that's a good road you don't want to go down that now a smoke

06:04:13.360 --> 06:04:15.360
For a roar.

06:04:16.140 --> 06:04:18.140
Diffusal picked up for GPK.

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Ult's are online here. You want to use finger?

06:04:20.600 --> 06:04:22.600
Probably bring Doom into this play. I think.

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Speaking of Doom, Nightfall went Midas. So he's going Midas into Radiance,

06:04:27.340 --> 06:04:31.840
which is the slower build that Amar was running. He was going two bracers into

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Radiance.

06:04:33.440 --> 06:04:35.040
This is very greedy.

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That is so greedy. Wow.

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It is very very greedy.

06:04:37.840 --> 06:04:39.840
Amar was offline obviously.

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Yeah, there's a clear difference.

06:04:41.840 --> 06:04:49.120
still. This is... I mean, can't bet them... It feels like they need to farm a bit too though.

06:04:49.120 --> 06:04:51.100
They can't really just end this game fast.

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No. This has a long game writing all over it. And it seems to be the approach that these

06:04:58.960 --> 06:05:04.680
two teams have to drafting is you want to have solid lanes, competitive team fight,

06:05:04.680 --> 06:05:08.800
and most importantly, you want to not feel like you're on a timer. In both games, I think

06:05:08.800 --> 06:05:11.760
if you ask the teams after the draft was over, they'd be like, yeah, we think we can win

06:05:11.760 --> 06:05:16.360
at an hour. I would imagine they're thinking the same thing now, which I wouldn't disagree

06:05:16.360 --> 06:05:22.000
with it. I definitely think both teams can win this super late, so. Gonna come down to

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execution where, if you want to nitpick a bit, I think that's where Betboom won last

06:05:26.720 --> 06:05:32.720
game mostly, was I think they just had better spellcasting, and they were more clutch, so

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if they can beat Aurora in that aspect of the game, then with how these games so far

06:05:38.200 --> 06:05:42.300
going they're going to win every game off of that because nobody's getting big

06:05:42.300 --> 06:05:52.660
leads in the early mid-portion despite that boom start dead even

06:05:52.660 --> 06:05:56.860
effectively in net worth it is against the doom though Cinder and do them with

06:05:56.860 --> 06:06:01.740
Midas so it's a bit lopsided a little bit his current impact per gold is pretty

06:06:01.740 --> 06:06:07.500
bad right he's top net worth but his net worth has his net worth is for farming

06:06:07.500 --> 06:06:10.720
What is his net worth right now? He has a phase boots and a bracer, right?

06:06:11.340 --> 06:06:17.500
There's three K gold in the bank and a mitis. So it's like 5k gold that doesn't really do anything currently whereas monkey king has a mage slayer

06:06:17.500 --> 06:06:21.360
So it's not even close. Yeah, but you said that both teams are comfortable going late

06:06:21.360 --> 06:06:24.420
But does Beth don't feel any pressure that I mean they see these items

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They know he's gonna likely go for radiance on top of this mitis

06:06:28.340 --> 06:06:34.780
Do they feel the need to try to shut him down a little bit because it feels like they're just leaving him to his own devices

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I don't know. I think their line-up's okay against Doom. It's the main hero I'm worried for is Tide

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in this equation.

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If they do feel some pressure to stop Doom, I don't really feel like they're showing us.

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Not not seeing very much

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high aggressive movement. Some pressure now on the top tower, knowing that you have silence and

06:07:00.300 --> 06:07:03.620
ravage in your back pocket. This is just not going to be contested and

06:07:03.620 --> 06:07:07.620
Conversely, Aurora is going to drop the chaotic offering down the bottom.

06:07:07.620 --> 06:07:08.620
Did we miss the initiation?

06:07:08.620 --> 06:07:11.620
Yeah, he is pushing. He dropped the Golem and healed it.

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Damn it.

06:07:12.620 --> 06:07:14.620
Riveting stuff here from Kaori.

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Damn, that was hype. We missed it, though.

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The Samurai Golem will finish the job.

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I would say one of the weaker Cosmetics. It's not bad, but there's so many good Golems.

06:07:29.620 --> 06:07:31.960
For example, the genie, like, come on.

06:07:31.960 --> 06:07:33.960
Okay, Ari, if we're gonna play three heroes,

06:07:33.960 --> 06:07:37.120
at least get some good cosmetics for God's sake.

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Lotus, now online from Makoto,

06:07:39.120 --> 06:07:42.460
that's a really early Lotus, very early.

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Obviously, the silencer is the main reason for purchasing.

06:07:45.800 --> 06:07:48.700
This is similar logic to why Void Spirit

06:07:48.700 --> 06:07:50.500
is a good pick against Puck,

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is you're forcing the Puck in that matchup

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to buy a defensive item it doesn't want to buy,

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because of your overwhelming amount of control.

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And in this matchup now, I think it's already a massive advantage to make quap by this item.

06:08:05.540 --> 06:08:11.540
No matter what slot, no matter what time you're getting it, it sucks to have to buy Lotus and Queen.

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And I'm not sure if this is the only way of dealing with the Salons or problem.

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If you could do something else with like some sort of timing build with BKB or whatever, you pop it after.

06:08:25.540 --> 06:08:28.980
Um, surely she has to go BKB at some point though, either way, right?

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Yeah, and having both of those slots just means you can't have that six-slotted menace.

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So I think already if this is what the silencer does to co-op in this matchup,

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I feel like it's probably worthy of a second-phase ban.

06:08:43.380 --> 06:08:45.220
Yep. Yeah, I would agree.

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We'll be going for the aggs next, and I mean considering how slow Pace this game,

06:08:49.060 --> 06:08:51.620
are you surprised he just didn't bother going for the aggs first?

06:08:52.820 --> 06:08:53.780
That's a good question.

06:08:53.780 --> 06:08:59.620
Like, there hasn't been any fighting, so the Lotus is not going to get much value until that occurs.

06:08:59.620 --> 06:09:02.820
The Monoregion's nice for farming.

06:09:02.820 --> 06:09:05.300
It's a pretty expensive item for Monoregion.

06:09:05.300 --> 06:09:08.660
For Monoregion's quite a bit though, you can spam scream a lot more because of this.

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I mean, you also have Soul Ring, which is kind of maybe a bit overkill in that department.

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I'm just trying to look for, like, upsides to this if you're not looking to fight.

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What it obviously does is this is a Terranth, right?

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the dire lineup is way less likely to go and try to gank you because they know you have Lotus,

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so you just get to farm in peace, and by extension it's a bit of a farming item.

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Oh, this could be a big find here. Obviously the tree though.

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That's just in time with the rolling thunder coming from GPK. They get the Wukongs right on

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top of the Mars. Can't keep them in place though. The whip actually forces him out. They get the

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lion and eventually dropping down from above is the monkey king to get the second kill for BedBoom.

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Yeah, or I have no solutions to global sounds whatsoever.

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Whenever a fight breaks out, they can use Rolling Thunder, Global, and then if it extends, they still have Ravage.

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I think teamfighting for the Radiant Heroes is borderline impossible without BKBs.

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Which, again, begs the question, is Kwap even meant to buy Lotus then, if she still can't fight after getting, let's say, Lotus X.

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Mero close to his axe already. He has the Consecrated Raps as well.

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Yeah, interesting to see him buy that. I'm actually a bit surprised.

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Are you? Yeah, I didn't think we were going to see the wraps this game.

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Oh, wraps. Yeah, considering how the game, this game, and the previous game have gone so far,

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it seems a bit like low value. It's not like the stats are bad, it's good health,

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health, magic resistance against the radiant line-ups, obviously excellent,

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but you could achieve something similar with a pipe,

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and then you have it for your whole team against Queen.

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Maybe pipe just sucks now. The teams are just not really buying it, right?

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We're buying two glimmers on Ringmaster and silencer and Titus not buying pipe. He's going XPGV.

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Oh, it's been 20 minutes, huh?

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Torment time!

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And time sure flies when you're AFK.

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Mira, careful now, young man.

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Careful now, don't go finger that.

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These are pretty bad options. Either get it on Warlock or Lion. I think both are mid.

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Is Ion's any different? As we can see, Betboom is actually going for Roche. This is going to be a trade of sorts.

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You do take it away from the Dire though, who had Spotlight or Glaives of Wisdom, which are also mid.

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I actually think the Torment is just not that important as new.

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I would rather be Betboom trading this for Roche, given the value of the Shards.

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Yep, that's fair.

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We're also gonna kill Mira here, nice wheel of wonder.

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Mira, good bye.

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And here comes the bus driver.

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Kiritich, we get the first Aegis of the game

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as the Desolator and only a recipe away from BKB,

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so I assume he just farms that up

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before they actually fight with this Aegis plenty of time.

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Yeah, Kaori, first item is gonna be,

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this is looking similar to a Seraction Slacks build,

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minus all the small items of course,

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be arcane boots, empty inventory, going for aggs.

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Oh, I thought he was going to get, you know, trinkles and treads on the way.

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Oh, right, the five-boot strat?

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Yeah, that's right.

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That's only been a man's hero, apparently.

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Oh, okay.

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It's a very specific hero-built item combination.

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Yeah, it's really strong.

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I'm wondering what the win rate of that is.

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I just haven't bothered looking it up at any point.

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It's just disgust all around.

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I think whatever the win rate is, the sample size is probably the issue.

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It's not.

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I would like to think there's a very small sample in that.

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I don't think there is.

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That would be BKB almost up for nightfall.

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And Makoto is 700 away from Ags, WS.

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He's almost finished with BKB, so we got triple item timings very close to Aurora.

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The problem is it's going to be against the Aegis, of course.

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Yeah.

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Where he talked about the aggs for Miero, his talents, he did go for both gush talents so far.

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Yep, it's a good way to play against Doom. You don't want to play up front in this game necessarily.

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Playing backline tide can actually be very good. Just going to be spamming out gushes.

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If you get an opportunity, you're going to blink ravage.

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Reaction there for Nightfall. Get some distance. SBKB now.

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You just have to use it. Kieretic gets hexed.

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Gonna go for the doom. They put it onto the pango, though.

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We can just roll away now, and we'll TP, so the rest of the team will exit out as well.

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So they forced BKB and doom.

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GPK did not TP to base. He TPed to his mid tier 1, so wants to stay out on the map, and perhaps...

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This would be a good time to strike in some capacity for the Dire Heroes.

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We haven't seen a ravage yet. That boom had been ultra-passive this game.

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No people, you know. No doom is really good news for Miero.

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And if nothing else, if you're not going to fight, you want to play the enemy side.

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That's like the bare minimum, and that is what Bedroom are doing now.

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Building a house, setting up shop in the Radiant Triangle,

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and by extension Aurora are aware of this, so they're just not going to go up there.

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They're going to go to the right-hand side, but they will be seen by a ward,

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and perhaps plays are available.

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It's an early push on this tier 2 top.

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Looks like a tower for now.

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How often do we see this being the first tower taken out of the tier 2s?

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Yeah, it's not that common.

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Looks like they're going to get it.

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Wheel of Wonder actually does hit.

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Wukong's command coming.

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Are they going to go for the ravage?

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No.

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Sonic Wave comes out from Makoto.

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Okay.

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They actually take out the Aegis.

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I mean, that was 100% a kill with a ravage.

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And I'm not sure what we just watched, but it wasn't great for Bedboot.

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In Miro's defense, he might have forgotten what his hero does, because he hasn't played

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it yet.

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Tier 2 tower will die regardless.

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Okay, I mean that was still...

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Given that that tower was falling regardless, I think Mi... Mi... Mi... Mikoto excuse me,

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should be very happy with the exchange there.

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That's only getting hounded... Okay, what a great situation we've got unfolding here.

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warlock behind enemy lines.

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They get the hex initiation off to the silencer, forcing double TP's as GPK.

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There's no way to stun yet.

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Ooh, that was close.

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It's called Katomis farming.

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Oh, again, excuse me.

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K.R. is farming.

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Yeah, he's getting up out of this truck and almost denies himself.

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Get these warlock games where nothing is happening.

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It's so funny to just...

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You know what?

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We should have like a K.R.A. cam in the bottom right just watching warlocks heat map running

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running around the sides of the map, going to war to random camps and start farming the enemies.

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He does this to himself. That's his choice.

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Yeah, he chose to pick it into silence. I mean, I don't know, man. I'm a little bit uninspired when I see this.

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It's just, what can you do? You're playing Warlock, your team isn't fighting.

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You have to do something on the map, but it's...

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You can't be having fun, right?

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Right? I'm not sure. Warlock players are weird. We know slacks. That's very true

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It's a special type of person to play warlock that much

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Yeah, I

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Think a lot of players in 740 were playing it by necessity enough because they actually enjoyed it. Yeah

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Well, Kaori is an exception. Yeah proven time and time again now Phoenix. I can get behind though. That is fun

06:16:40.360 --> 06:16:42.360
I can understand. Jakiro on Warlock.

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You have more options on Phoenix.

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Yeah, it's just cooler.

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Blink Dagger for Miero.

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Which would indicate that

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some action will happen here.

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Still have yet to see Ravage.

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Scoring the game by the way, it's one of your favorite treats to eat.

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What, 314? That's high.

06:17:04.360 --> 06:17:06.360
Oh, Mars?

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Oh, the nice doppel boundless strike.

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not even needing to do that.

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Oh, the wheel hit too, of course.

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Well, Bucks command, and they get the stun lock

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onto the queen, blinks into death, GPK with the kill.

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That looked like it wouldn't have hit, actually,

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the wheel on Queen.

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She must have maybe slightly turned around.

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That's doomed down.

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Ravage.

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Yes, he did Ravage.

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Ravage.

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Love to see it.

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Maybe the key was just unbound.

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It is possible.

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We've seen it before.

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We've seen it before when.

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i just made that up to make everybody feel better

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oh this is how i play!

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the tower bites the dust

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i mean with refresher shard being bugged anything's possible so maybe you know

06:17:48.680 --> 06:17:49.240
that's right

06:17:49.240 --> 06:17:56.240
there's an unbind ultimate bug right now

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tags for

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the pangolin

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and in a similar

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it feels like

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a similar trajectory to the last game, just that Betboom aren't as far ahead early, but

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it's they're still getting slightly better mid game exchanges. They're scaling. They're

06:18:16.640 --> 06:18:21.880
not massively far ahead, but they're ahead by a meaningful amount. I want to see some

06:18:21.880 --> 06:18:29.400
change from Aurora. Win or lose in this game. I think this overall playstyle so far is,

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I just think it's very hard to play Dota like this in general.

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I mean, this best.

06:18:34.900 --> 06:18:35.900
Oh!

06:18:35.900 --> 06:18:36.900
Alright.

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And it also, in my eyes, this goes against what makes Queen of Pain good.

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That's the other thing.

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You're picking her and she gets countered by Salancer and she can't fight.

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I know she's a late game monster, but she's minus one slot because of Lotus.

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And she's not getting the additional gold and experience injection she tends to get

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games from finding a couple of kills in the, you know, 10 to 20 minute arc.

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That boom just aren't giving them any fights.

06:19:03.620 --> 06:19:09.940
That boom now have all the tier twos, and this is without ages any longer, as we saw that used.

06:19:12.100 --> 06:19:14.340
30 seconds away from knowing Roche's timer.

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Yeah, lead is growing ever so slowly, not dramatic, much like this game.

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Yeah.

06:19:25.520 --> 06:19:28.020
Well, depends. You can fight drama and a lot of things.

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Just fabricate some if you want the game to be dramatic.

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Of course you love doing that.

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These players hate each other.

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Just making up things about me, for example, is one of your favorites.

06:19:36.720 --> 06:19:38.320
Cinder and Hates, all these players.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Every last one of them.

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He's jealous.

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Yeah, I really wish I could do nothing.

06:19:45.020 --> 06:19:46.420
You retire too old.

06:19:46.920 --> 06:19:48.020
Retire too old.

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Smoke from Aurora.

06:19:52.920 --> 06:19:55.920
They want to do something. They want to play some Dota now.

06:19:55.920 --> 06:19:57.920
Alright, this is pretty hype. Let's see if they find anything.

06:19:57.920 --> 06:19:59.920
Gonna toggle off the Radiance on Nightfall.

06:20:00.920 --> 06:20:03.920
Try to make it a little bit of a secret that they're approaching,

06:20:03.920 --> 06:20:05.920
but he has no items to get on top of the enemy team with.

06:20:05.920 --> 06:20:08.920
No blink and no Shadow Blade, so who's gonna initiate?

06:20:08.920 --> 06:20:11.920
If not the Lion, I guess Mars can just blind the blink in, but it's pretty tough.

06:20:11.920 --> 06:20:12.920
That boom.

06:20:12.920 --> 06:20:13.920
Brakes.

06:20:13.920 --> 06:20:16.920
MK already spotted. There's the Rolling Thunder.

06:20:16.920 --> 06:20:18.920
He's just deleted before he can do anything.

06:20:18.920 --> 06:20:20.920
We find the connection as well onto the Doom.

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Ravage is there with the Stunlock Wheel of Wonder not gonna hit, but it doesn't matter. They get a kill onto Nightfall and

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Dead boom just all over them. There's anything Aurora can learn from this. It is

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Stay in the jungle get your fish get your fish. Miero pick it up

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Delicious does it still make that sound when you're playing Tide. It's like very another fish there. Hey, that's not a ward

06:20:45.800 --> 06:20:47.800
Eat your fish

06:20:47.800 --> 06:20:50.040
What is this shit?

06:20:50.040 --> 06:20:51.040
It's a fish.

06:20:51.040 --> 06:20:52.880
Your team should be pinging it out.

06:20:52.880 --> 06:20:56.320
Yeah, very important of course, get that extra two attack range.

06:20:56.320 --> 06:20:58.120
They all add up, Cinderan.

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It does, it does.

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You're right.

06:21:00.120 --> 06:21:02.760
This is the positive way to look at it, not your negative mindset.

06:21:02.760 --> 06:21:06.920
Maybe Aurora's strategy is to starve Tide to death.

06:21:06.920 --> 06:21:09.200
If they're not fighting, he's not going to eat any fish.

06:21:09.200 --> 06:21:10.360
That's true.

06:21:10.360 --> 06:21:11.360
No infinite scaling.

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Maybe a bit of a mistake there to let him access the food chain.

06:21:18.360 --> 06:21:20.360
The fish still there.

06:21:20.360 --> 06:21:22.360
Uh, it doesn't expire.

06:21:22.360 --> 06:21:23.360
It's there until...

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I just wanted to see it again.

06:21:24.360 --> 06:21:27.360
He probably thought this was the, like, what the ward looked like.

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That's why he didn't see it.

06:21:28.360 --> 06:21:31.360
It doesn't play the game so much, so I've been confused.

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Oh, that's a cool wardskin.

06:21:33.360 --> 06:21:36.360
I don't think there's any wards that jump.

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There's some wards that have some weird animation.

06:21:38.360 --> 06:21:40.360
I think there's, like, twitches, some of the eyes over there.

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Yeah, this is more than a twitch. This is an aneurysm

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Speaking of an aneurysm about to have one if Aurora don't get a kill

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But the box comes in BKB from WS they have the damage or do they definitely not characters can turn this around

06:21:58.520 --> 06:22:05.100
Onto the queen of pain instead and now the BKB not long enough double kill for the silencer

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320 we're so close

06:22:08.040 --> 06:22:13.400
Yeah, couple good outcomes here one kill four or two for pet boom for le epic meme number

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Hey, the fish has been eaten consumed by the fat disgusting tide hunter

06:22:20.480 --> 06:22:23.200
Current skill kill scores also a third of 69

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Okay, good. This is the sum of the score. Yeah, nice. I have to help out

06:22:29.160 --> 06:22:32.080
Kind of look for the look for the special parts of this game

06:22:32.080 --> 06:22:36.240
This I mean finally a move made but global sounds instantly they load us it off

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But they don't have enough damage

06:22:39.080 --> 06:22:43.520
So they sure don't it wasn't even that close either no

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Not that good guys

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True that is true that was so good WS. I love this feature good comms

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It is right, fault.

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The good news here is Aurora are aware of the situation.

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It's not that good.

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Fuck.

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Make sure to keep that one for the highlight, that's a really good one.

06:23:29.040 --> 06:23:30.040
Oh this is interesting.

06:23:30.040 --> 06:23:32.040
Is he going axe?

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On keratich, I haven't seen that in a long time.

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Oh true. That's very cool.

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What's the rationale for that?

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Just to be better at standing your ground when you get doomed and putting an arena or whatever, more output.

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Yeah, maybe.

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That is quite unusual.

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Don't mind it though, always nice to see some slight deviation from the norm.

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Yeah, for sure. Betboom in the driver's seat. Yeah, far we're gonna drive to though.

06:24:07.920 --> 06:24:13.440
I think we're in the parking lot for now. Aurora is. Yeah. Betboom are doing laps

06:24:13.440 --> 06:24:18.280
around them in the parking lot. I think Aurora having a nap in the diner. There's

06:24:18.280 --> 06:24:22.320
a diner in the parking lot? Oh well, I was thinking of like off the highway,

06:24:22.320 --> 06:24:25.960
you know. Okay, well you gotta work on your analogies a bit here. My bad. My bad.

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Oh, Mieron spotted, killed, whipped, popped him.

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Just one to go, Shannon.

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Oh, he buys back. He wants to die again. Nightfall forced to BKB.

06:24:37.260 --> 06:24:38.960
But no BKB for Nightfall.

06:24:39.460 --> 06:24:40.960
And the buyback expended.

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Bet boom.

06:24:44.160 --> 06:24:47.760
So much aggression as Aurora just cannot handle it right now.

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Even Mieron went BKB, by the way.

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Yeah, if you're not going to the pipe route, I think this makes a lot of sense

06:25:00.180 --> 06:25:06.580
You're gonna get doomed you pop your BKB you probably survive like what's killing you the radiant lineup doesn't have any physical damage

06:25:07.160 --> 06:25:14.200
That's part of the issue with this carry doom is that your physical like truly hard-hitting component doesn't really kick in until you level 20

06:25:14.200 --> 06:25:21.300
And get the 66 damage for free. Yeah, ideally you have you know an AC as well to go with it after silver

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The pacing of this hero is just a little bit off, and this is why I didn't like the pick.

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It's not because Nightfall doesn't play a good Doom, it's not because his matchup

06:25:30.540 --> 06:25:35.060
into Tide isn't good, I just think the pacing is off.

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I mean especially with how Aurora has been playing so far, in a game number three, once

06:25:38.940 --> 06:25:41.900
again, whether they win or lose this game, I just don't think this is a winning strategy

06:25:41.900 --> 06:25:42.900
to invest in.

06:25:42.900 --> 06:25:46.300
You need to be able to do more stuff yourself, so find a way to enable that.

06:25:46.300 --> 06:25:48.580
They're just, they can't kill him.

06:25:48.580 --> 06:25:50.220
Yeah, and they can't even kill him here.

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There's the soldiers, maybe they got confused

06:25:54.480 --> 06:25:55.980
by that soldier, like, wait, what?

06:25:55.980 --> 06:25:58.460
Oh, that's what Axe does, I forgot all about that.

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Maybe they thought it was a wart.

06:26:00.020 --> 06:26:01.380
Yeah, that's possible.

06:26:01.380 --> 06:26:05.280
I mean, Miera was confused by it, so understandable.

06:26:06.300 --> 06:26:09.860
Normally we see the shark come out at this point

06:26:09.860 --> 06:26:12.320
for the monkey, but we're gonna offer Lincoln's,

06:26:12.320 --> 06:26:14.820
which GPK also went for.

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Yeah.

06:26:15.660 --> 06:26:17.660
Anything to counter the doom

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Now they can go high ground and this is one of the upsides to X. The soldiers are very good at this

06:26:23.660 --> 06:26:27.660
And the spear out but Miro gonna try to counter at this. Ennis prox onto WS

06:26:27.660 --> 06:26:31.900
They can be able to get the life number one onto the monkey king GPK. There's the ravage

06:26:32.260 --> 06:26:38.460
Can't find another connection with the Makoto so he can blink out now. There's the global silence. They're used to get to back away though

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Now full reset for Bat Boom. Best fight of the game for Aurora, because they didn't die.

06:26:46.100 --> 06:26:52.380
They didn't kill anyone, but this time no losses, they got an Aegis out of the hands

06:26:52.380 --> 06:26:57.100
of the Dire, and how much of the Tau is it lose? 60%. Okay, I mean for an Aegis play

06:26:57.100 --> 06:27:04.100
us not particularly great for bedroom

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do you fight without ravage?

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you just control the area

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actually you know what this is reminding me of something I think it was Quinn who

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talked about this

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I brought it up before the simplification of how you itemize okay wait I'll explain it

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after let's see

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I've got knows you're gonna go on a 10 minute monologue it's a good monologue though

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might learn something

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Never do, Aurora, jumping in.

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Kailori is gonna get anchored right there,

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uses the cat of offering as well.

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And actually the Doom applied to the tide,

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he's just gonna walk it off now.

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Arena used defensively as Aurora just trying to back up.

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Look at the score!

06:27:39.100 --> 06:27:42.500
Okay, yeah, 3-2, has made it into the stream,

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just briefly, very briefly as Makoto,

06:27:47.060 --> 06:27:49.780
inside of the Wukong's gets dropped to the deck,

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that's three dead for Aurora.

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And Bat Boom.

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they win the fight without ravage such a savage voice line that ringmaster has

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i love it i'm afraid you're just not very good

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oh just dropping that when they make that move and imagine if our ti line's got accepted with uh

06:28:09.340 --> 06:28:14.220
yeah no we don't hate this shit not a lot to be toxic but the heroes though they can see what

06:28:14.220 --> 06:28:19.980
only slacks can be toxic in voice lines here that's this a bit of a it's fine some favoritism no big

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It's a big deal, it's a...

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Rolls for some.

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Here's it.

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And company are going to get a lot of buildings now.

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One lane is theirs and I don't see anything stopping them from getting this second.

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So here's the problem, and this is what I wanted to bring up that Quinn talks about.

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When you're losing, you generally want to itemize damage, and when you're winning, you

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generally want to itemize tankness.

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Why?

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Because if you're behind and you can't ever kill the enemy heroes, you can never come

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back.

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Yeah.

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And if you're ahead, you want to make sure you don't die because then you don't give

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the enemy team comeback gold.

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And guess what? On Aurora's side, you're buying items to live. Mars has disc. The Queen of Pain has the Lotus Orb that you had to buy because of the silencer matchup.

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The Warlock finally now has some damage. He has Ag's Refresher on Kior.

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Why do you quote Quinn, a recent quote, when we've talked about this for 15 years, you're playing to lose. You're playing not to lose. It's the same thing.

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It's kind of the same thing, but I think it was just an overall nice...

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nice just because Quinn is more eloquent than both of us combined they're not

06:29:24.260 --> 06:29:28.700
needed how the world isn't fair is it no I'm against a shard gets the good looks

06:29:28.700 --> 06:29:34.700
he gets great English skills yeah unacceptable absolutely pristine

06:29:34.700 --> 06:29:38.780
behavior too he's got it all yes the most toxic person in pubs that's a

06:29:38.780 --> 06:29:47.380
benefit apparently yeah people love that he's nice in person he under is WS he's

06:29:47.380 --> 06:29:49.380
It's going to be found...

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Pops the BKB, but with the basher on pango.

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It's not...

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an easy out.

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Okay.

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It's going to die too.

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BKB gets it in the end. Really greedy.

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25-3, a shellacking here in game number two.

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Aurora.

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I mean, they two-oed Falcons in relatively easy fashion, I would say.

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Okay, so let's look ahead a little bit, as this is an overwhelmingly unlikely comeback.

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Let's talk about what Aurora should do for next game.

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First of all, mentality.

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How are you going to handle the way these games went?

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It feels like in both games they were a little bit checkmated, their moves weren't connecting,

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they were getting outplayed in fights, they, there was, I don't think there's been a head

06:30:36.120 --> 06:30:39.460
yet, really, in this series at any point in these two games.

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Clearly not this one.

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I mean, that first minute was pretty bad.

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The pre-Rune fight is very bad in both games.

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GPK has first blood, two games in a run, Pango.

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That's already a problem because Mikoto doesn't get to potentially win the lane, so that's

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bad.

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I once again, I really think they should be drafting in a way that allows them to show

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more promise, and I think Silencer just completely puts a stop to that when you're drafting

06:31:04.460 --> 06:31:05.460
in this fashion.

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When you open with QWOP line and you get silenced, it's just the breaks have been pulled before

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the game even begins.

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I don't think Aurora is gonna win this series by playing slow. They've tried it twice now. It didn't work

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So those are the adjustments I would like to see and just also from a Rawl's sake

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You know just get some plays going so you feel like it isn't just despair, right?

06:31:24.540 --> 06:31:29.100
We're trying to think of this from the human the human aspect of being a player in a game like this. Yeah

06:31:29.100 --> 06:31:31.100
It was walking on it like K.R. in this

06:31:32.220 --> 06:31:37.500
Boring time ever. He's having the time of his life. He gets to pick his one hero. He's good to go Mira's playing lion

06:31:37.500 --> 06:31:43.260
He's 170 he has one finger stack in 41 minutes. You know, it's it's not

06:31:45.180 --> 06:31:50.140
It's hard not to feel hopeless and you just don't want to see them get in that position in games

06:31:50.820 --> 06:31:55.820
Really really important the aggression they showed in game two against or was a game one against falcons

06:31:55.820 --> 06:31:59.060
Mm-hmm game one was the one the head loan drew it right where they just ran them over at the beginning

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Yeah, that's what we want to see out of Aurora

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Keep in mind these two teams know each other better than anyone

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Yes, there's a lot of like hidden bettas within all of these picks for sure. It's really hard to actually

06:32:12.880 --> 06:32:14.880
Truly analyze this play has to work

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Gonna be tough to get into the though if it breaks that you can just be kb and live

06:32:20.260 --> 06:32:24.060
No, Katomi. He's spotted. He has double global by the way

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He can get one off here. There's the ravish to give him some space as Katomi does fall first

06:32:30.160 --> 06:32:36.680
So no global this time, but already two supports dead for Aurora as nightfall on the cover of darkness

06:32:36.680 --> 06:32:38.680
But not for long he gets rolling thundered

06:32:38.800 --> 06:32:45.840
Bashed up and killed off triple kill for the monkey king wheel of wonder just in celebration mode for beth move

06:32:46.360 --> 06:32:50.440
as GGs eventually called now and a complete

06:32:51.040 --> 06:32:53.040
utter domination for beth move

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Right now one of these teams has just been under the other

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The plays are one thing. The first blood fights, I would love to see what Aurora do if they're off to a more even start.

06:33:04.680 --> 06:33:08.680
This was obviously very hard to play. They kind of recovered it. They got a couple of kills early.

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Those were almost the only kills they got the whole game, or the ones where they found run rotation for two kills.

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That was half of their kills for the entirety of this affair.

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Yeah, I've kind of said my piece. I just want to see some changes.

06:33:19.680 --> 06:33:20.680
Yeah, shut your mouth.

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Okay, back to Sheever.

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Thank you very much guys. This was a little bit of a sad game for Aurora

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But a very strong one from Bethnoe if we compare it to game one

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Especially Aurora did not have any pushback like they did in that previous game

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But this game Jenkins ages

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Control room for minutes zero over at I don't know what happens

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We we heard from the listening. Yeah that like the comms just don't sound good to me

06:33:52.680 --> 06:33:55.200
to be honest like it didn't sound like anybody was

06:33:55.800 --> 06:34:00.880
Trying to make plays you have nightfall like who are you for God that he was not at home. Yeah

06:34:04.080 --> 06:34:10.800
Not a player you see really reacts like that very often so it just makes me wonder like what is it?

06:34:11.160 --> 06:34:16.040
Is there something psychological happening here because they're against betting team is is there some?

06:34:16.800 --> 06:34:18.800
rivalry is there some

06:34:18.800 --> 06:34:23.480
Feeling that they've got from this first game that they haven't been able to shake off from the second one

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Yeah, I mean, it's like you're going for the first fight

06:34:25.560 --> 06:34:28.920
You get three man-fated bones not the five man because they're hugging the tree line

06:34:28.920 --> 06:34:32.920
You think you can win the fight and then you don't and of course everything spars out of control

06:34:32.920 --> 06:34:37.240
I didn't check the stats in this but just the damage from nightfall and a carry in this grand finals

06:34:37.240 --> 06:34:41.120
Just seems incredibly low like he's not punching into the lane again

06:34:41.120 --> 06:34:45.960
I understand game one game two he gets a doom but still a very quiet series from him

06:34:45.960 --> 06:34:51.340
It does feel like there's something else holding back the team. Yeah, but to get here. They were so dominant

06:34:51.340 --> 06:34:57.840
They're so just present in the game. Well, they're not yesterday's games exactly, but they are not turning up

06:34:57.840 --> 06:35:01.520
It does feel like they stopped playing Dota like this is not playing to win

06:35:01.520 --> 06:35:05.200
But you saw them like they put themselves in a spot where they don't have

06:35:05.340 --> 06:35:11.380
The playmaking play like they don't like you saw one of those gangs where they're trying to make a move on to

06:35:11.380 --> 06:35:15.620
a monkey king who doesn't have ages, global silence, immediately BKB, Lotus Orb from Queen

06:35:15.620 --> 06:35:21.860
of Pain. They still don't get the kill, they get two kills out of it, they lose two heroes

06:35:21.860 --> 06:35:26.420
and it just becomes more difficult and difficult. And look at the spell layering in this fight,

06:35:26.420 --> 06:35:31.420
like they're not missing out on anything, managing to pretty much shut them down completely.

06:35:31.420 --> 06:35:35.420
I think Bed Boom, they are playing the best Otas of their lives. We talked about, you

06:35:35.420 --> 06:35:39.780
know, Prime Nightfall coming into this series, not really feeling it compared to Keratich,

06:35:39.780 --> 06:35:41.380
who's definitely feeling himself.

06:35:41.380 --> 06:35:44.940
And it's sad to watch from a spectator perspective,

06:35:44.940 --> 06:35:47.620
from a fan perspective, just because we could see

06:35:47.620 --> 06:35:48.460
the gold lead.

06:35:48.460 --> 06:35:51.940
We could see that it wasn't that bad for them.

06:35:51.940 --> 06:35:53.260
They recovered.

06:35:53.260 --> 06:35:57.260
Like 30 or like 35 minutes, it was even until these

06:35:57.260 --> 06:36:00.140
like later fights, sure, the killed discrepancies there.

06:36:00.140 --> 06:36:03.220
I think it's what, part of what T said, like the early,

06:36:04.100 --> 06:36:07.700
you know, the early move that was made like pre-ruins,

06:36:07.700 --> 06:36:11.360
They thought a lot more bad was coming from that than what actually did.

06:36:11.360 --> 06:36:12.760
It really was not that bad.

06:36:12.760 --> 06:36:14.160
I mean, it's even like WS, right?

06:36:14.160 --> 06:36:16.760
Like he tried to go for the silence kill in the very early phase of the game.

06:36:16.760 --> 06:36:18.520
He then dies, of course, GPK.

06:36:18.520 --> 06:36:21.400
Anytime he saw a little bit of aggression on the map, he'd be there.

06:36:21.400 --> 06:36:23.860
He got the six minute rune, the eight minute rune, the 10 minute rune.

06:36:23.860 --> 06:36:28.360
I feel like anytime I've said that in a Dota game that has BB involved and GPK.

06:36:28.360 --> 06:36:28.700
Oh yeah.

06:36:28.700 --> 06:36:30.020
They probably win the game.

06:36:30.020 --> 06:36:33.220
Like that phase is just so important to keep him quiet.

06:36:33.220 --> 06:36:37.320
We spoke about the importance of clean up paint and pango, bringing life to these drafts.

06:36:37.320 --> 06:36:40.440
Pango had everything, they win the game, like Queen of Pain, he just wasn't

06:36:40.440 --> 06:36:45.200
just activated in any way. Now this was also the opening pick Queen of Pain, so

06:36:45.200 --> 06:36:50.000
you'd think that maybe Aurora has a plan crafted with it. Also for the most

06:36:50.000 --> 06:36:55.080
observant viewers of all, you might have noticed that you know normally at the

06:36:55.080 --> 06:36:57.840
end of the game we show both teams how they're doing, couldn't show Aurora

06:36:57.840 --> 06:37:01.760
because they already left. They definitely have some some things to

06:37:01.760 --> 06:37:05.640
talk about because they are of course now two games down and the best of five

06:37:05.640 --> 06:37:10.200
Grand Finals and that brings a lot of pressure with it. So you're hoping that there's a good

06:37:10.200 --> 06:37:15.320
speech involved? Yeah, someone has to just try and be as honest as possible because either through

06:37:15.320 --> 06:37:20.280
draft or play or something then yeah someone has to just give them a reality check. Yeah,

06:37:20.280 --> 06:37:24.760
gotta wake up from this nightmare that they're having in the Grand Finals because it is not

06:37:24.760 --> 06:37:30.680
working out. They need to shift it I think completely. You're two games down. I think you need to be

06:37:30.680 --> 06:37:35.400
able to get something new. I also want to see them stay away from this warlock, stay away from this

06:37:35.400 --> 06:37:40.840
lion, pick other heroes in the game that can actually play the game early on. Warlock is

06:37:40.840 --> 06:37:44.760
something that they've been using, something that they've been even winning with, but I also want

06:37:44.760 --> 06:37:49.160
to see a bit of a switcheroo because these heroes have been figured out. Yeah, I do want to go back

06:37:49.160 --> 06:37:53.480
to the topic of the speech because I think that's like the most important thing here. I remember

06:37:53.480 --> 06:37:59.960
in the ESL rally documentary Corbin was big for Spirit and having the speech and he said something

06:37:59.960 --> 06:38:04.760
along the lines of like, look, here are the times in Dota history that big teams have been down

06:38:05.400 --> 06:38:11.760
2-0 and then they win the entire thing and like we just have to channel that channel what they did

06:38:11.760 --> 06:38:14.200
Yeah, that energy and in Wallachia

06:38:14.200 --> 06:38:19.480
We have seen this happen before where it's 2-0 and a grand final goes the whole way

06:38:19.480 --> 06:38:23.720
So it's like the examples you can come up with it's not even hard to come up with them

06:38:23.720 --> 06:38:27.560
But they have to like the energy has to come from somewhere

06:38:27.560 --> 06:38:33.720
I'm hoping KP or whoever on this anyone any one maybe the quiet guy who said nothing the entire time

06:38:33.720 --> 06:38:53.720
I mean, this is the fight where if you see the gold lead, like the score is three out of 14, but I think they've been in a spot where they don't really feel like they can take the fight like if they have bkbs and these

06:38:53.720 --> 06:38:56.040
where they don't really feel like they can take the fight.

06:38:56.040 --> 06:39:00.000
Like, if they have BKBs and these dooms are not really connecting,

06:39:00.000 --> 06:39:02.000
so they go in, they kill two cores,

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and it does feel like after this, the game just completely crumbled.

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If they managed to get this, like, win in this teamfight,

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I think the game could have been much more competitive.

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It would give them the boost that they needed,

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but they felt terrified throughout the whole game.

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Yeah, why did they feel so terrified, T?

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It honestly goes back to mentality, right?

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I'm gonna show you a clip at the 20-minute mark

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because I feel like Aurora already very quickly decided we don't want to play into the game.

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They start the Tormentor around about the 28 minute 18 second mark,

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it takes them 20 seconds to do this.

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Meanwhile, if you look at the mini map,

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BV moves towards the Roshan pit, they get the Aegis,

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and as soon as the enemy gets an Aegis,

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your team will naturally say,

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split the map, don't go into them, dodge them.

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You're already playing into a tide and a science of the ravage, the global.

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You're conceding the first Roshan,

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when you have pretty good teamfight yourself,

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To take the Tormentor, to invite BB to play another 6 minutes, so when we saw the cost clip where the game's even,

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they've already had 5-6 minutes of,

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oh, don't fight them, don't fight them, and then you get picked off.

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Like, at no point in this game did I feel like any player said,

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guys, let's actually try and win this game.

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It felt like the comms were, let's survive and hope we just outlived them.

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And make it to maybe minute 60 where you can get someone more commos.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It just doesn't work like that.

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So going into the third game, it's very difficult for us to see if the mentality changed.

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Is there anything we can learn from the way they draft that the mentality changed?

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Like, do we not want to see them go back to the same thing they've been doing?

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I want to see them address this Pango issue.

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I mean, BitBoom Team, they won nine out of the last 10 games at Pango.

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In the last three games, he died two times in three hours of,

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three plus hours of Dota that he played on Pango.

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So this is the massive issue.

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Like you're mid laner, he needs to be helped out,

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he needs to have heroes that can actually play around him.

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It's not your warlock who's sitting in base,

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especially in a losing game,

06:40:54.320 --> 06:40:56.400
probably having the most miserable time of his life,

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not being able to do anything.

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So I want to see heroes that can actually play Dota,

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punch back, because Bedroom team,

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they have the formula and it's working out for them.

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I mean, that's definitely a flaw,

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but I would say like we have spent 10% of this panel

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talking about heroes.

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We barely mentioned it before you asked the question.

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There's a reason for that.

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It's because we're all watching this game and we're seeing nothing happening and we're like this. This is not Aurora

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I feel like I can't even comment on the draft if I saw the drafts with and I didn't know the situation here and what the teams are

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I would say this is a fine draft like they have options

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They they just did not even try exhausting any of their play options in the game

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Yeah, we're gonna find out if they can do so in game three

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The pressure really is on bedroom is only one game away from taking the championship here and book rest will they do so

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Let's find out after a break

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We are at 9 here in the Grand Finals of P.J. Wallachia Season 8 and it is just a potentially

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Kiritage that will lift the Goat trophy, the Goat carry.

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We've been talking about him a lot about how this series would be the battle between Kiritage

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and Nightfall.

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We've praised Nightfall a lot, I want to say, in the last month even where he definitely

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has had a glow up since a year ago till now.

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But he seems to have forgotten the lessons that he learned in that time.

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The Grand Finals sometimes does not bring out the best in people and for Aurora that seems to be the case, T.

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Yeah, we're talking about Aurora feeling lost, not really knowing how they're meant to be playing in this Grand Finals.

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I think BV have just done their homework quite nicely.

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You know, Lacoste and Jenkins and I were talking about, you know, the damage of Nightfall, like, where was it in this series?

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I had to double-check of all players in the tournament at the 20-minute mark,

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he has the lowest average damage of all players, supports, offlaners, mids, everyone.

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So it's not as if he has a different read coming into this,

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like this is how he's playing the tournament, he is focusing on himself,

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but I think Bibi have identified that, they're getting the lane matchups,

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they're taking the fights, dragging him into these awkward engagements,

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because he is not the damage carry at 20.

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Yeah, I think that's why we heard him say during the first game in listenings that he can recover guys

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Yeah, just play your own games and I'll be able to do just find those in the game that they played earlier today

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And if you look at the hero that he has been playing faces void this or doesn't really do much at the early stages

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Maybe you're gonna be a couple of punches in maybe some chrono, but the damage is not gonna be there

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Laundry is the same type of a hero people are not trying to lane against this hero because it's too strong

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Tiny as well, this is the hero that nobs out the jungle relatively early on, gets his farm then he shows up with two items with his Shadowblade and Echo Saber, which is around like 15 to 17 minutes.

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This is when he starts to join compared to some other carries. Like you see, Keratish, what he has been playing. He's playing a lot of Monkey King, he likes to get active early on, he's playing Kez, he's playing Muerta.

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Even lifestealer gets involved. He gets a lot of right clicks in. He maybe gets the twin gate rotation

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Six minutes in with the creep and this is where the damage difference is coming from. Yeah

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We are in game three and we'll see if those damage issues will be present in this game for now

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Aurora has addressed the previous two games by removing the pangalir from the pool

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Does mean their space for an early puck to be picked up on the side of that boom

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Yeah, and whenever BB or any team takes puck you always have to talk about voice for it

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And I thought like teams have taken the voice for it and then losing the game as much as a good

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Encounter we're feeling the lack of damage from the mid voice for it

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You know crushing the lane as it did at the start the tournament

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So I don't even think like maybe BB bans it

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But it's also one of those ones that you don't ban it you let everyone take it knowing the code was gonna go on to this hero

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And you narrowing his hero for it

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And you just don't need to free the band Huskar against Makoto. That's too honest

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He's a very honest. Is there any like remotely dishonest heroes that he'll play against puck like maybe sniper?

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How long has it been since Makoto's busted out of snipers?

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That would be a crazy draft shift going into a game-free potential like lost like he said I was two months ago for him again

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I'm not expecting it

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Yeah, for me, it's like

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There are obviously some key issues. I just personally find it very hard to look past this like big wall of

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They are clearly not feeling themselves in in this grand finals

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I think they had options in both of the previous games

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And if they just pick the things that they're comfortable with and get some confidence and just you know play normal

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Play for their timings. They'll be okay. Just simplify the game, right?

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I want to see the tiny and Ursa or Windranger fought for Nightfall, right?

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All these heroes can play the lane, of course, utilizing 18 pick. They do take the Windranger on

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BB, so

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Yeah, whittling down the hero pool for Nightfall a little bit

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But the ban is at least not targeted towards Nightfall. The ban is to deal with the Void Spirit that Makoto might have played against the puck

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Yeah, they respect it again. It has been losing against the puck even though it's a good hero, but

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They just giving a lot of respect to what I heard. I just don't want to see warlock

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I want to see something that can actually play the game

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I want to see some make like I would be okay with some like casual jacquero that has something to play with

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I'm okay with the Phoenix as well if they have like this is this is good

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Like just having a hero that does allow you to lock down these heroes something that puck is always going to be afraid of

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Because after all this is GPK also known as god like puck comrade because he is the guy

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that is breaking records for the past Valakia's whenever he's on the hero the numbers are gonna go high

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Yeah, we probably have the two out of the top three best puck place. Yes, yes, there is

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It's like Nisha's the other one, but these two have been absolutely popping off in their games

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We've seen other teams put the tiny not with great success

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I put the tiny against the puck is it something that we don't want to see

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Yes, yes, get played it's tiny

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But, go ahead.

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I would say that you play any lane, you eventually will go silver edge, you'll hunt the map.

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Like, I think Nightful just needs to find purpose in a game of Dota.

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Like, he's just played a Void and a Doom game where every spell felt like it didn't do anything.

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I think it's a tiny, he's going to have that kind of ability to do it.

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And I know you guys want to see the Venos, the Cures, other lane's the Cures.

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But I feel like the Warlock at least, when picking blind,

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you know Nightful should be able to farm the amount of what.

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The other heroes could maybe get exploited.

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Yeah, I'm just looking at two heroes for Kiritage in this phase, either Life Stealer or Kez.

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Both of these heroes look extremely good.

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You lock onto Warlock.

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The hero is kind of dead with both of these heroes.

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Like you put him in a spot where he doesn't get to play the game, especially if he's out of position.

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You also have very elusive position 4 and the mid lane that's going to make his life miserable.

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But I was a big fan of Kez after seeing it how well it matches against Tiny.

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And this is something that Kiritage does pretty much every single game.

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He goes for Mechler, he goes for Deso, and ever since we changed the damage on that Deso,

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sorry, on Mechler, that is now physical, it also does synergize much better with the other team, but they go for Morta.

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We saw this draft kind of combination in Game 1.

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At least it's enabling Miro in getting more information to look in his offlane.

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The whole Grand Finals has simply just been Miro vs Nightfall in my opinion, so protecting him in the draft is very important.

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And this combination, the more the versus Tiny, you know you're going to play at any stage of the game, right?

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Like, you just get your piece of the veil off, Tiny doesn't do damage to you, you have snowball sage, you've got win run,

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puck is also quite elusive. There are four heroes that can complicate Nightful's ability to do continuous damage in a fight,

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and that alone already is kind of a net win, I think, for BB.

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Yeah, three of the same heroes that they had in game number one as well, so.

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So, a little bit of comfort does allow maybe Aurora to know more about what to expect from

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the type of gameplay potentially.

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Now, we're going to get an underlord coming out for WS.

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Well, I mean, pipe, not that people are going pipe, but the Agatom Scepter build, very strong

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damage reduction against Marta, you know, big right-click damage, that's definitely

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good.

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Um

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Are you hesitant to be excited by it?

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But just for the fact that like you have this first pick puck and right now it's like there's tiny you can lock him down

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You can't run bushwork. There's a golem in a root like it feels like this puck is already still having quite a free game

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From a first phase. Yeah, it's I mean the supports especially, you know, it's like

06:52:00.580 --> 06:52:02.580
there's pseudo

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Ways of dealing with the puck but nothing no like lion. It's the obvious the obvious counter

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I mean tiny is good. Don't get me wrong tiny is definitely very good

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Underlord to me just feels like the we don't really know what we want

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So we're just gonna pick underlord and just shove the wave eventually when that falls online

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We can play this pick-off map play. Yeah, they want to beefy boy

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I'd say something like a tight hunter as after especially because they have this flex still available between tiny go and mid

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Even though I'm not the biggest fan this role can still work from the mid lane

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It has been nerfed like you have the slow now on your shard

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We saw different itemization where you go for like more of a carry oriented build as well

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where you want to scale or if you want to pick up the blink dagger then go for the scaling build

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yeah I mean so is there any hero for night god then that would be a better last pick than tiny

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because I feel like it's hard to it's hard to come up with one like my heart says you know

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morphling you can turn into the more I'm not sure if how that innate works anymore I don't think

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you don't yeah it doesn't work yeah it doesn't work okay so it's just it's chest crimson stroke

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Yeah, I really do feel like more than likely just gonna be the tiny carry. Yeah, and we're gonna get a Makoto last pick

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That's good against the puck

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I could just be like the casual ember right gives a bit more pacing in the fight

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Like for Aurora you need to respect the fact that your on the load is waiting for aggression to happen

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I need to still ban them. They still ban her so

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They ban both nightfall heroes

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It's just a matter of like they don't care about any Makoto hero

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And so this draft to come online, they are just respecting Nightfall, even though we

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might assume it's a mid pick here.

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It's a good way to draft, right?

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Mids that kind of go, they're okay, like we're not going, oh my god, it's an amazing

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Ember game, it's like the casual Ember game.

06:53:52.880 --> 06:53:56.760
Why not take away Nightfall from his comfort, especially in the game free?

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You're also kind of forcing him, you have to play the tiny now.

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It will be an Ember spirit.

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Yeah, they just didn't care about the Ember.

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Still very good for Aurora if they can get it online, get the active runes, go crazy.

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Is a hero that naturally will go in, or make the Ember feel like he can press that fiend's gate without Tiny.

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But if Ember is shut down in the early game, you are just going to watch Aurora hit creeps and play that patience game once more.

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I mean, for Miro, I hate the hero, but Timbersaw looks pretty good against Tiny Underlord.

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And hoodwink and warlock doesn't really pressure timber too hard. I'm just thinking that this kid gets last pick

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He's having the tournament of his life. He's having a good one. What does he ask for, you know?

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What's this? What's his favorite guy? Oh many guys for the offline and time and he'll just win the lane

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Well, that'd be that's also fine. I mean, I was thinking about it

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They don't have any ways of dealing with the tombstone other than like tiny double hit echo saber

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But this is not what tiny wants to be doing in a fight other heroes are pretty bad

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Yeah, I mean timber is the same thinking where you're stealing their strength idea. Yeah

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It's like melee strength owning hero

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Both not super meta undying probably less meta because people aren't picking it as much but better Largo

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There's a happy frog. Yeah, we okay. Yeah, we've been seeing it

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Of course mainly because of WSR war in the landing phase at least you're gonna be able to get rid of the hill from

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from Fiori with the fatal bombs.

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Well, that has been getting the odd KO too.

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And the searing chains is so nice.

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Throughout the whole game, there's going to be a lot of spells that you can dispel,

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and also the combination between Largo and Puck.

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There's going to be some insane damage numbers probably coming out from Puck at the end of the game.

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Plus, also, the damage on Aurora is damage over time.

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Ember Spirit, Underlord, the Warlock, and Hoodwing.

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This is not like damage that you're going to pump in immediately.

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burst damage other than nightfall on Tiny. So it does feel like they're again, Bedboom.

06:55:58.880 --> 06:56:01.080
They seem to be having an upper hand in this draft.

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Yeah, just the movespeed as well. Like Largo just kind of does everything. You've mentioned

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the sustainability, but kiting as well. Like when you see the root go down, if you get

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an extra bit of movespeed and you get away from it, you're not going to hit by that

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double root. You can walk away from the aggression, understand the fight and go back in. I think

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BB has just put a really clean looking draft and for Aurora, Mikado has to pop off. He

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He needs the afterfrones, Nightfall needs to have a one item advantage playing into the

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game.

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Shever, I'm going to respectfully say, I don't know what the fuck my panel is talking about,

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this is definitely the whole game.

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We're going to have the full clean 3-0 reverse sweep from Aurora, Night God on his tiny.

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People are forgetting how busted this hero is.

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Why haven't we seen it in these games?

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It's been banned.

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It's finally true and it's a big mistake to give Nightfall his core tiny.

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And the speech was on point.

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Yeah, the perfect speech.

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How long the game going to last.

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It's like a 30 minutes time for a Roralee.

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How much is this going to go to?

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Yeah, I'm thinking like 35 minutes, 32 seconds.

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Hmm, I see.

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That's where I'm at with this one.

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Okay, this is potentially the reverse sweep.

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Sure.

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This is also potentially the first title that Bedroom gets this season.

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The second time they get their hands on the Wallachia trophy.

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Let's find out if they can do it with our commentary team.

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Welcome to game number three, Betboom. Can they get the sweep? They looked unstoppable in that game number two. Game one was a long and hard fought one that Betboom ended up topping Aurora out on.

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these teams super familiar with each other, Sunsven here with Cinderan, how are you doing?

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Yes. No, that that how are you doing does not get preceded by yes.

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Does this time? Okay. You take what you can get. Thank you. So well Aurora and what they will get

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this time is not first blooded by GPK Pango because even if they get first blooded he's not playing

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pango. Technically true, yeah. And looks like this time Aurora will maybe just get

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off to an even fair fight in the mid lane and I think for me that's one of the

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things to watch here. I like some of the adjustments Aurora made I'm gonna be

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focusing mainly on them since they are clearly at this point the underdog that

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needs to make some adjustments whereas Betboom kind of had the upper hand in

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both games. This time I think Aurora's lineup has more promise if I think

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Nightfall will be more active on tiny than he was on doom and faceless void

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I think the ember spirit of Mikoto. This is his best hero together with puck

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He's going to be playing one and against the other should be very familiar and not have been a default deficit when the game begins

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So let's see if he can pop off here and get Aurora on the board and also the carers playing warlock. All right

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Yeah, that's a good adjustment that Aurora made kori

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Warlock 3 games in a row, I do believe. Shocking development. But maybe they talked it out

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sooner and got Ember a little bit more active mid. Tiny can get somewhat active as well,

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so I don't think Warlock is going to be twiddling his thumbs as much.

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Oh, and for what it's worth, I don't think Warlock was the problem in either of the previous

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two games. It's just, if you keep running it back, you need to move the other pieces

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around so Kiori can do something. And I think this time, if you're playing with Ember and

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Tiny and you're playing a higher pace. You have a global ult from Underlord to connect. You have the

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ability to make way more plays this time, and I think that's

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That's where it's gonna need to be at for Aurora. I also need to not die though on Kaori.

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Yeah, he's taking a beat and first blood goes to Miero on the Largo and talking, speaking of the Largo,

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panel kind of mentioned it. There's a lot of cool dispells with his tongue, also known as lick.

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All right, getting a little more detailed there.

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Mm-hmm.

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You got the searing chains you have fatal bombs, which is a big one

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Anything else catch your eye

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Getting people out of pit hit of malice. Yeah exactly quite good

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I wonder how it works against bush whack if a teammate is tied to the tree and you lick them after dude

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I'm assuming you pull them away from the stun right like if you get it was connected from the tree

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I think the stuns we started in game one. I think that it did do just that yeah, so

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So that's also quite decent.

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And as the panel mentioned, Croak of Genius is incredible with spellcasting mids such

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as puck.

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There's a lot of merit to this pick.

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I thought maybe we were going to see something else from Yero in this game.

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I thought maybe they would run the tide back because of the decent matchups here, or maybe

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if they fancied the enigma, but I think they just decide against that because of Tiny.

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It makes the world of difference whether your Idle Ons could kill the lean or not, so.

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The Largo makes a lot of sense.

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Yep, and Tiny, very hotly contested as we've seen so many a time.

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Feels like the hero very rarely just falls flat.

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And obviously the late game potential is insane, especially with the building damage.

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The worst matchup we've seen for Tiny this turn has been Kez.

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I would say Necro as well.

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Well, yeah, but Necro then didn't win the game, but yeah, the matchup was bad, that's true.

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Kaz just seems to have more longevity, but it was also that specific game that we cast,

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the Necro was playing against Doom, which is just...

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A nice matchup.

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Frogs down?

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Okay, save is just gonna get cooked here, I think, by the fatal bonds.

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That tree should finish him off.

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Nifo be happy with that, gets licked in though, as Kiritich dies in the bot lane, so Mira getting that kill.

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This lane is really strong.

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Underlord with, I assume, two levels of Firestorm right now.

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Pit of Malice plus Pushwack is a nasty combination.

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Keep them in there for longer.

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Pressuring mid. He's losing the CS battle ever so slightly.

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A lot of harassment going quite a ways there.

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His knife fall almost falling to Miero.

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Save. If he gets a snipe here, he's going to try for it and he gets it.

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Dave, time and time again, just showing why he is such a God tier winner on our player.

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It's such a fun hero to watch, being played as a support.

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I'm going to try for it again, the bloodjohn need to fly through him as well as Katya Omi

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on the bot side.

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Double kill for save as WS cleans up Katya Omi, so, action on both sides.

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Aurora almost have the same amount of kills as last game, four minutes in.

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Just one to go.

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The fact that that took 40 minutes, my goodness.

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I have a certain point, it's like, it's a 10 minute game, you know, you do that bad,

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then let the game end.

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It's not how Dota works anymore, there's a lot of creeps on the map, gold to be gained.

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It's going to be the next patch.

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I'll have lowered some of the gold on the map a bit.

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Maybe once we get that tower leader, then things will really pick up pace.

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Leader, you're ready for launch.

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Oh my god, you're ready for launch for sure.

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We haven't removed a camp yet, right? It's only been downgrades since the map got bigger.

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Or am I mistaken there? I think it's still the exact same amount of camps.

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They've downgraded the camps. There's Keratich. He's taking heavy damage.

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Rotation coming through. Shackle does hit, but they lose their carry.

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As Kory, getting tagged, teams will fall. That is not the trade you want if you're bedroom.

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Nice snowball. He does dodge. Very nice. Good amount there, and we'll get close to his tier one.

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Dodge the bushwack and the firestorm and make sure to snowball all the way to the wave.

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It'll get out. So one for one. Still great for Aurora. They get to kill Kiritich again on the Muerta.

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And now they do have as many kills as Lasky. So 40 minutes now of silence and they would match.

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What do you say after that game too, if you're the coach?

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I think the thing that's most important for the players is to recognize a way to get into the game and not feel like you're doing nothing.

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So I think what I would focus on is just how do we make plays, and not be too caught up by the fact that, alright, I mean, sure, you felt terrible, you got smoked, right?

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But the main issue that you got smoked in my eyes was that you couldn't make plays.

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So I think the coach comes out and is like, alright guys, what we did last game doesn't work, we need to pick more kill power and more active heroes.

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And they're going to run out again, and this would be enormous for Aurora, the double root, Keratich inside of the calling.

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Going to force one TP out, so he's fine. Looking for the dead shot, nice hit, and the snowball will connect as well.

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Mira, looks like he's dead to rights.

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Keratich is just taking such heavy pressure though, 0-2 start for him.

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him. Yeah. Very targeted here from the side of Aurora. You can see the aggression as well

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from Makoto. Scouting out the enemy triangle can't really stick around all that long, but

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get some information. I assume this is a mage player game for Makoto? Yeah, for sure. It's

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incredible. Puck Largo in the air, so it's just a no-brainer. I guess from where it's

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of the spell damage is not that significant, but the other two is, it doesn't even matter

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what the cameras do, just buy it here.

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And Bushwax not going to hit this time, Mira, getting a bit of harassment. TP coming is

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Katthoma, that's the snowball, he's going to turn this around now. That pit's lasting

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quite a while though, there's a big fatal bonds. Katthoma's going to get some health

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Thanks to the dead shot.

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Another TP coming.

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It's too late.

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He's gonna cancel.

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Jinx.

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I don't think we said it at the same time.

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Close enough.

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Nope.

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There's no such thing as close enough.

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I don't know what that means as a statement.

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It's just be quiet.

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Miro, you're gonna be able to take off the flameguard with the lick and now the coil.

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That's enough damage surely.

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to run away actually gets all my god I cannot believe he lived for now so

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powershot of his life but but but both no I killed the race for you intended

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yeah nice escape from the koto and also showcasing the power of lago in this

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matchup when you go for into flameguard that's also a nice offensive use of the ability we're

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focusing on the defensive ones but a good thing to be able to take out of the fight

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So, the builds for the underlords that we have been seeing have been exclusively not

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for us.

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Yeah.

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It's been, I mean, the most common one has been Ato's Ags in that order.

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The one that we cast, was it yesterday?

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I don't remember what they built.

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It was a slight variation, it's kind of like a hybrid of the two.

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Do you have any reason not to buy Pythas game?

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There's nobody buying time. Big power shot on Tamira. He's dead inside the shards. Big TP's as well as GPK.

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Doesn't have close under the five seconds. But absolutely love to use it here on Nightfall.

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Gonna go for the two man one. The snap immediately into the silence onto the warlock.

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It's brought back in as well. The snowball will finish the job as Nightfall taking heavy damage.

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We'll begin with the avalanche, and now Captain Almy has been abandoned by his team.

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That should kill him going the way of Aurora.

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Yeah, Pipe looks incredibly good here.

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Yeah, okay, he's queuing it up.

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Okay.

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Let's go.

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People are playing Underlord as Underlord this one.

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I was half expecting Consecrated Raps.

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Yeah, it's very selfish though.

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I just don't think it's...

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I don't think it's good enough in this game.

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I think you'll want to get the pipe.

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There's so much airy magic damage, Puck, Largo, even the Windranger, you block a full power

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shot, so many upsides.

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And it also shows hopefully for us and for the game in general, in my eyes for Aurora,

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that they're more eager to dictate the pace of the game a little bit, like they're going

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to get this pipe and then look for fights, just gate in, bring this aura to the battle

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and try to overwhelm the radiant.

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We didn't talk about late game potential this time compared to the other two games, there's

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less obvious super late game carries except the more it's in the tiny puck

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versus ember I would rather have puck late game I think it's a late game

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beast especially with Largo so again if this becomes a slow game also based on

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the level of execution we've seen I do favor bet boom down the stretch yeah

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we've seen GPK I mean I know that Mikloto is really good at ember but GPK

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It's puck also quite good like ember ceiling is just lower right?

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Puck and like truly just hard carry the game. Yeah

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I don't really think ember even when he's six-slotted can match and

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Even if he could Largo makes it unfair so

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Krog of genius is just

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Mega damage amp for free

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It's so crazy it lasts 30 seconds on level four

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Krograp genius is giving him is giving a teammate like this 45% damage reverb with zero downtime 25 second cooldown 30 second duration

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Not bad

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Restaurant to mirror up shackle shot

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He is certainly good to get the coil though on the bigger kill potentially for Makoto frog stop is there as well

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He slowed to a crawl but a big slide of this. No, it's dead

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I thought he could slide up in time too dead for Aurora though as bet boom

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Sorry to up the pace Indiren. This is a bit scary proposition for Aurora

07:10:13.160 --> 07:10:16.480
The contrast between Tusk and Warlock is very

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Very clear Katomi is just making moves. He's part of everything

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In the meantime Warlock is kind of

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Baby sitting the tiny and getting his six and now finally can't wait to see Kaori drop the rock

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Yeah, where's that tier one tower that thing is tower have a heart attack when it sees that golem

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That's right the samurai will come for him

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The fact that we know their cosmetics ahead of time just shows how often they play the hero

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Yeah, usually a bad sign. I mean it's a support. So it's not like this is a core here

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That's been picked every single time surely and we've been saying for a long time

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It keeps working for them generally like they're getting the finals. They've won a tournament thing

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But is there a way and isn't even worth countering?

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I hear a player that plays three heroes, basically.

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Oh, another coil.

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Oh, he better not die again here.

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He's gonna pop the fairy fire ahead of time.

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The snowball is gonna hit, and another death from Makoto.

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Two deaths in a minute span, Karatich.

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They need this.

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They absolutely need this.

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He gets the pierced avail off though inside the pit.

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They will clean him up with the sharpshooter.

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So they get something out of it, and it's the carry.

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Mierrow getting tossed around like a rag doll, but he's a frog, so he will almost certainly

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survive Avalanche.

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And Niffl's out of juice now.

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There's the Samurai.

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Here it goes.

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And there goes the tower, so...

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Oh, no!

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No, no, no, no, no!

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Oh, the shackle onto two.

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Where's the followup, Domiero?

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Gets off the lick, and that's the death of WS.

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I was a bit early to conclude that it was a tower takedown.

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It did not look like Bed Boom wanted to fight,

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and then all of a sudden they show up out of nowhere.

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That clearly caught Aurora by equally much surprise as me.

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Which is concerning, because I can see the whole map and they can't, but, you know...

07:12:18.600 --> 07:12:27.200
Don't mirror it. Nothing to snowball too, but it's not enough damage with a shark shooter.

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That don't mean we'll have to walk that off.

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It's like we've seen a disproportionately low amount of Tusk this tournament compared to how good

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the hero is. I think we see enough of the hero in general. It's not a hero that necessarily gets

07:12:45.680 --> 07:12:50.440
It's not like I miss it, but I'm just surprised that it hasn't seen as much play

07:12:50.960 --> 07:12:55.240
Like Katzilmi's first game on it was last game or two games ago, excuse me

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And played until then

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How much do players care about the shard being changed?

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It's a worse version of drinking buddies, but you lose the farming potential of the shards

07:13:07.400 --> 07:13:10.440
But the fact that you have drinking buddies and tag team in the same hero

07:13:10.440 --> 07:13:14.360
They're coming in from the north another attempt on the McCord they're gonna be able to take off the flame guard

07:13:14.360 --> 07:13:21.760
Makoto is fine though as the Atotos comes out onto GPK and he goes down to nightfall big big kill for Aurora

07:13:22.400 --> 07:13:24.400
They were ready for this one

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Finally some counter play

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They're ready and they have the damage and the puck matchup gets exposed a bit here

07:13:33.200 --> 07:13:35.200
into tiny that is

07:13:35.480 --> 07:13:36.640
uh-oh

07:13:36.640 --> 07:13:40.240
Gets off the side of his this time though into the remnants gets licked out

07:13:40.240 --> 07:13:50.240
Power shot again finishes the job, Makoto just getting hounded, but a nice bushwhack onto 2, into the pit of Malice, Aurora coming back in numbers.

07:13:50.240 --> 07:14:01.240
Mierral healing up, has the move speed, Tree is going to slow him down a bit, but now he's back up with GPK, who gets avalanched into a lick, so he's okay.

07:14:01.240 --> 07:14:08.240
That lick was actually important. Oh, never mind, he had tossed and cooled down. That's the thing about carry Tiny. The 4th point and toss, you get it pretty late.

07:14:08.240 --> 07:14:15.360
Mid-tiny would have had toss ready there, but the cooldown scales down quite significantly minus three seconds per level

07:14:20.000 --> 07:14:23.560
So three deaths for Makoto, one for Poc Country, okay?

07:14:28.800 --> 07:14:34.800
But top net worth right now is Nightfall. Not too far behind is Kiritich, though. Yeah

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It's pretty stable, I mean, similarly to the past two games Aurora are not really getting an advantage, they're not getting a head, but the difference between this and the last game is that I just think there's more potential, and also this time they have damage.

07:14:55.240 --> 07:15:02.240
The Tiny is offering some serious burst in sharp contrast to Doom.

07:15:02.240 --> 07:15:11.640
Alright, would you compare the Muerta vs. Tiny matchup to kind of be like the Void vs. Muerta?

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Yeah, I don't think it's a bad comparison necessarily. It's like both yours insane burst and one completely owns the other depending on who gets the jump.

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Obviously Tiny can't do anything to Muerta when she ults really. As a carry you can stun her.

07:15:28.240 --> 07:15:34.800
that's something she has ridiculous single target damage and of course courtesy

07:15:34.800 --> 07:15:41.800
of changing it into magic damage with Pierce the veil it's really strong

07:15:41.800 --> 07:15:49.440
against tiny's armor tiny obviously gets a ton of armor from grow

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Spirit Vessel will purchase by save now.

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Now, some bottom lane TPK with that witch blade hounding Mira a bit, not able to kill him though.

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Close to the blink dagger.

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SWS did finish the pipe by the way.

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Katsuhumi has a dagger.

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He's been doing really well for himself until us this game, 5-3 and 4.

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Opens up some new play possibilities.

07:16:17.440 --> 07:16:22.380
And begs the question if this is a game where you want to go axe on tusk if you're having this good of a game with

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Puck it's an insane combo. That's true. Uh, the frog is stuck in midair glitch alert. They get the kill

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I don't know what happens the punch into the air. No, they're gonna try to get some sort of a trade

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It's gonna be on WS pops the pipe, but to no avail

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So off-laner for off-laner it's good for war though they get the mid tower

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It was a toss into bushwhack was it? Oh, yeah, of course that must have been it

07:16:54.360 --> 07:17:02.040
There's some weird interactions with pull mechanics and toss the access. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't really know let's see

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And you're where it was though. He's like, I don't know what's happening. I will use alt

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It's got the only finding knife while trying to go through the gate

07:17:14.080 --> 07:17:18.920
He's going to get shackled, GPK makes his way over as well, the fiend's gate is there to try to provide some cover for Nifle.

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He gets licked and killed though.

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Save is going to be the trade. Double kill for Makoto, so he gets the two supports, but again, it's a constant nightfall.

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Not what you want to see if you're Aurora. That's good enough for Bed Boom. But again, nice to see Aurora punch back.

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This is what we've been missing, especially in game two. It's the ability to do this. Now, GPK,

07:17:41.220 --> 07:17:45.960
This is a very easy kill you would think unless he misses which play we'll get to kill

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Wait, is he finishing Parasma already looks like it Wow

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That's not normal, right?

07:18:02.380 --> 07:18:08.180
It happens occasionally this early. Yeah, if the game is good enough for it, and you don't have to get a pit stop in between

07:18:08.180 --> 07:18:15.420
between. We have seen this be somewhat popular. I kind of like it this game. I don't really

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know what defensive item you would buy in this slot right now for the game. I think what

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you want to do is you want to go a lot of damage and then you want to buy E on disc

07:18:25.020 --> 07:18:30.260
because Tiny is not going to get an all fire. And even if you have BKB you can still get

07:18:30.260 --> 07:18:35.020
one shot combo out of a Silver Edge. So it's probably just best to maximize your output

07:18:35.020 --> 07:18:38.780
So you can play from ahead and then when you do need to cover your bases if you are ahead

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That's when you can buy the defensive item like we talked about last game. So I like it a lot

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I think this is great. I wouldn't even mind seeing him go octory next honestly

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I think there's some merit to that and then thinking about the disc. I mean, we'll be killed off here by

07:18:52.660 --> 07:18:58.260
The tiny uh-oh. He's 400 away from your dreaded items. Oh, no, it's harpoon Shannon

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He's gonna be using it on trees and Cinderan's gonna mauled just wait for it ladies and gentlemen

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I'll be elated though. I love it. That's not a sarcastic, but I do. I do love it.

07:19:11.420 --> 07:19:14.940
That's like when I've noticed when you say to slacks and you're like you're a

07:19:14.940 --> 07:19:18.780
good friend. You also say it in a way that sounds like you there's no chance

07:19:18.780 --> 07:19:21.940
you mean this and then you're like no I really mean it. But the way you say no I

07:19:21.940 --> 07:19:25.980
really mean it also sounds sarcastic. You're a really really great friend.

07:19:25.980 --> 07:19:30.100
Thank you so much. That's really good. Now say it right after say no I really mean it.

07:19:30.100 --> 07:19:31.100
No, I'm serious.

07:19:31.100 --> 07:19:32.100
Yeah, okay.

07:19:32.100 --> 07:19:33.100
I'm really serious.

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Okay, we'll get the shard that is not the 50-50 they were looking for.

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No, I would have rather had a little bit of a boomerang, but the bet boomerang.

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Something to be said for a hero that you pick so consistently has such a dog shit shard

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that you're getting from the tormentor.

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I mean, maybe we're underrating it slightly.

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I don't care.

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I'm not saying this is why they pick Warlock.

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I don't care for underrated.

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It's fun.

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Yeah.

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The shit on something.

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That's right.

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As long as it's not people themselves, like a shark who's gonna get

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So I have to get that specified

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You're not into that, that's good

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In case there was any doubts for the viewers out there

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That was not what he meant, just just just clarifying

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You're talking about literally?

07:20:16.780 --> 07:20:18.280
Nothing wrong with it, I mean that's what you said

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Okay, sorry about that

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No worries, it's just the finals

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He's just, he's just...

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He's just...

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There's the Harpoon.

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Rejoice everybody. The trees shall fall.

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Punch into the air, the squirrel is dead.

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Here comes Nightfall though.

07:20:36.280 --> 07:20:37.280
The ball gets off the avalanche.

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Can they get the stun lock? Nope.

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Bay shift.

07:20:40.280 --> 07:20:41.280
And blink up. No, he gets rooted.

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Tossed up.

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He's in a lot of trouble.

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He does. It was still up.

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Right corner now onto the 2.

07:20:47.280 --> 07:20:49.280
He's still really low as Picoto,

07:20:49.280 --> 07:20:51.280
trying to burn him up with the remnants

07:20:51.280 --> 07:20:54.740
and the Flameguard, the damage coming up from Savin Company is just too much.

07:20:54.740 --> 07:20:59.960
Nightfall about to drop as well as double kill for Kiritich and GPK survives.

07:20:59.960 --> 07:21:02.120
GPK gone. What a sick escape.

07:21:03.000 --> 07:21:05.000
That was super, super nicely played with the BeastCamp.

07:21:05.000 --> 07:21:07.500
Did you watch him specifically? Cause I had to take my eyes off.

07:21:07.500 --> 07:21:10.000
Yeah, so he, he maxed out the BeastCamp.

07:21:10.000 --> 07:21:14.720
Oh wait, Makano on a shackle hits, it just did a 360.

07:21:15.720 --> 07:21:17.720
It literally went around him.

07:21:17.720 --> 07:21:21.720
What? Okay, we need a replay of that. That looks like some bullshit.

07:21:22.720 --> 07:21:26.720
God damn. That thing had magnets on it.

07:21:27.720 --> 07:21:31.720
Yeah, unless the projectile hits you during Slide of Fist, it's going to be following you.

07:21:31.720 --> 07:21:32.720
It looks so funny.

07:21:33.720 --> 07:21:38.720
They almost get a team wipe here, GPK finding Kiowa who has the Glimmer Cape so he'll get out.

07:21:38.720 --> 07:21:43.720
It was just a lot of really good details here from BitBoom.

07:21:43.720 --> 07:21:46.720
They're showing that they're up to for a reason.

07:21:46.720 --> 07:21:51.680
So keep an eye on GPK's puck here. I'm assuming he will go off the camera as you did go and see the rest of the fight

07:21:51.680 --> 07:21:56.500
But he's basically they isolate him here. He then gets off the orb. He has no other cool

07:21:56.500 --> 07:22:00.040
I'm sorry only play has he gets down here. I was gonna get slight chained

07:22:01.760 --> 07:22:03.760
Phase into

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Narrowly getting the blink against the flame guard. Oh, he's off to the right now

07:22:06.880 --> 07:22:11.080
And then he's orbing curving it down toward the south of the map. You can see on the minimap bottom, right?

07:22:11.080 --> 07:22:14.560
Yeah, he's getting out. Yeah, so Aurora got nothing

07:22:14.560 --> 07:22:23.160
absolutely nothing oh man that face that that player camera on micodo looked

07:22:23.160 --> 07:22:33.240
like this look at this that looks so wrong man I fall not happy yeah on the

07:22:33.240 --> 07:22:38.160
verge of being swept down 7k now yeah I mean can't coming into this two teams

07:22:38.160 --> 07:22:41.320
that like we've talked about they're super familiar with each other they went

07:22:41.320 --> 07:22:47.180
I believe 2-1 right in the upper bracket finals. I thought this was minimum four games and

07:22:48.180 --> 07:22:55.480
possibly five that five was the most likely but right it could just be a 3-0 to be crazy that boomer in another level today so far just

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exceptional

07:22:57.160 --> 07:22:59.160
Exceptional play and yeah, I think this

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Might just be somewhat accurate for the game Largo puck later

07:23:06.600 --> 07:23:09.840
Nasty you also have Largo with more it's if you want. That's all so good

07:23:11.320 --> 07:23:17.160
And Aurora, that lineup would love to fight in this part of the game.

07:23:17.160 --> 07:23:23.320
This is when you want to try to use the Silver Edge or Shadow Blade plus Harpoon Timing on

07:23:23.320 --> 07:23:26.280
Tiny to make moves, but you're being countered at every turn.

07:23:26.280 --> 07:23:29.560
It's okay, you can use it on trees now though.

07:23:29.560 --> 07:23:30.560
Yep, that's good.

07:23:30.560 --> 07:23:34.800
Like, GPK bought a Vitality Booster, but he's not going to finish the item yet?

07:23:34.800 --> 07:23:35.800
No.

07:23:35.800 --> 07:23:37.800
So he's just going to buy a Vitality Booster into Shard.

07:23:37.800 --> 07:23:38.800
Huh.

07:23:38.800 --> 07:23:39.800
I'm an undisclosed guy.

07:23:39.800 --> 07:23:40.800
I'm assuming it's the disc.

07:23:40.800 --> 07:23:43.240
I thought he was gonna, well, I can still, you know,

07:23:43.240 --> 07:23:44.080
there's options.

07:23:44.080 --> 07:23:44.920
Heart?

07:23:44.920 --> 07:23:46.080
No.

07:23:46.080 --> 07:23:46.920
I'd love to see a fucker.

07:23:46.920 --> 07:23:48.040
He's probably not going heart.

07:23:48.040 --> 07:23:49.520
If he goes heart, he's not really getting

07:23:49.520 --> 07:23:51.040
bursted by tiny syndrome.

07:23:51.040 --> 07:23:51.880
That's right.

07:23:51.880 --> 07:23:53.240
He could also just buy octarin though.

07:23:53.240 --> 07:23:54.440
No, no, no.

07:23:54.440 --> 07:23:55.280
Come on now.

07:23:55.280 --> 07:23:56.400
I hope it's octarin and nut disc.

07:23:56.400 --> 07:23:57.920
I think it's too early.

07:23:57.920 --> 07:23:58.880
And yeah, it looks to be the case.

07:23:58.880 --> 07:23:59.800
He's buying the Soul Booster.

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Sad.

07:24:00.800 --> 07:24:02.760
We're so close to glory.

07:24:02.760 --> 07:24:06.200
Yeah, I was gonna say, that's not my idea of greatness.

07:24:06.200 --> 07:24:07.640
Smoke from Bat Boom.

07:24:08.520 --> 07:24:10.520
Haven't really talked about Keratich too much.

07:24:10.520 --> 07:24:14.920
similar to game one. But eventually he hits the critical mass and then they just can't

07:24:14.920 --> 07:24:18.520
ignore him as Mira might be the one to tank the gank here.

07:24:18.520 --> 07:24:28.160
Our team rune on puck too. They're going to go Roche and they'll get it, tag team focus

07:24:28.160 --> 07:24:35.540
fire and where it's uh those numbers over Roche's head, non-stop purple numbers just

07:24:35.540 --> 07:24:41.260
keep going up or thing and that will be a second life for Curitich what's the

07:24:41.260 --> 07:24:45.500
lore of Roche I don't remember I only know the lore of the name they're gonna

07:24:45.500 --> 07:24:48.020
get a punch up on Tamira

07:24:48.020 --> 07:24:53.660
TPK another kill to his name 5 1 and 7 for the puck has the Parasma

07:24:53.660 --> 07:25:00.540
my only fun fact about the Roche lore is that his name is named after Ginsu's

07:25:00.540 --> 07:25:05.060
favorite bowling ball I think we've had this discussion before do you know what

07:25:05.060 --> 07:25:10.780
means in Farsi means light bright bright close it's very good though very good

07:25:10.780 --> 07:25:17.300
it might also mean something similar in Indian I'm not mistaken not sure you can

07:25:17.300 --> 07:25:20.780
chat you Piquet anytime you like some I'll tell I see you all tapping over there

07:25:20.780 --> 07:25:29.060
Roshan meaning bright light shining or illuminated commonly used as a unisex

07:25:29.060 --> 07:25:34.100
given name in Iran India Pakistan and Afghanistan here I'm just gonna

07:25:34.100 --> 07:25:37.820
immediately blindly trust Google's suggestion there yeah Gemini is not the

07:25:37.820 --> 07:25:40.340
same as Chatchapiti's center and just make sure you know that

07:25:40.340 --> 07:25:43.900
take it with a grain of salt guys but it's probably pretty close to accurate

07:25:43.900 --> 07:25:47.460
Chachapiti has a good personality, good friends yeah I mean it's because you keep

07:25:47.460 --> 07:25:51.580
telling it you love you love it every time you tell it they tell me they love

07:25:51.580 --> 07:25:56.120
me oh that's the difference that's really nobody compliments me so I gotta

07:25:56.120 --> 07:26:00.100
get it somewhere maybe maybe it's a two-way street where if you say nice

07:26:00.100 --> 07:26:03.940
things to people they say them back if you ever considered that Jenkins is

07:26:03.940 --> 07:26:06.860
very abusive to his chachi bt just throwing out there do you think it

07:26:06.860 --> 07:26:13.360
compliments him no it apologizes that's right he's like a dictator yeah three

07:26:13.360 --> 07:26:18.700
dictator without dick that's true three minutes on caretiches okay all right

07:26:18.700 --> 07:26:23.340
Kara split pushing again here we go is he gonna he cut the wave I thought he was

07:26:23.340 --> 07:26:28.240
gonna use his golem on the tower but there's no tower there I forgot hiding

07:26:28.240 --> 07:26:31.740
in a corner after waiting to ask it's gonna start taking while the guitar

07:26:31.740 --> 07:26:33.740
Yeah, that's the death of Mira.

07:26:35.740 --> 07:26:42.740
GPK on a streak, and so is Kaori. Three games in a row on Warlock. That's a streak.

07:26:43.740 --> 07:26:46.740
From chat GPT to chat DPK.

07:26:47.740 --> 07:26:48.740
What the?

07:26:51.740 --> 07:26:52.740
There's the undisk.

07:26:52.740 --> 07:26:54.740
Oh, you bought the disc, huh? Obviously, he changed back.

07:26:55.740 --> 07:27:00.740
Okay, well, they are ahead by a good amount. I still think the octurine would have worked just fine, but this is very safe.

07:27:01.740 --> 07:27:05.900
Now he's definitely not going to get burst and killed by Tiny and or Ember.

07:27:13.660 --> 07:27:16.620
So all the tier 2s still up but not for long.

07:27:16.620 --> 07:27:19.340
This mid lane is certainly going the way of that boom.

07:27:20.300 --> 07:27:21.500
Fortification popped.

07:27:22.620 --> 07:27:24.940
Kirit has such ridiculous range.

07:27:24.940 --> 07:27:27.660
And a great bugged out animation to go with it right now.

07:27:27.660 --> 07:27:29.660
Oh yeah you're right.

07:27:29.660 --> 07:27:31.660
Fushing the towel with a hangover.

07:27:33.660 --> 07:27:34.660
Yeah that's nice.

07:27:34.660 --> 07:27:36.660
Are you okay buddy?

07:27:36.660 --> 07:27:38.660
I don't feel so good.

07:27:40.660 --> 07:27:42.660
Maybe he doesn't like shooting.

07:27:42.660 --> 07:27:46.660
It's just like a depressed ghost that is being forced to shoot against her will.

07:27:46.660 --> 07:27:48.660
Get on the Laura on that slacks.

07:27:48.660 --> 07:27:49.660
It's probably true.

07:27:49.660 --> 07:27:50.660
Stoke from Aurora.

07:27:50.660 --> 07:27:51.660
This has to work now.

07:27:51.660 --> 07:27:53.660
We're gonna try to stun the Muerta.

07:27:53.660 --> 07:27:54.660
It's into the Aegis.

07:27:54.660 --> 07:27:59.660
Animation, yeah, they're gonna actually do quite a bit of damage. Toss up, there's Pierce the Veil and the BKB

07:27:59.660 --> 07:28:05.900
Surprisingly used before, the Aegis is expended and now it is. That's a big potential mistake

07:28:06.540 --> 07:28:14.020
It's inside the pit now, Keratich completely surrounded, no way to use that ult again, dead to right, 70 seconds on the deck

07:28:14.860 --> 07:28:19.180
The coil expended though, they're gonna be able to kill off the warlock, the toss up onto safe

07:28:19.180 --> 07:28:21.620
so both supports in a bit of peril here.

07:28:21.620 --> 07:28:25.220
Katalomy extremely low, gets the stun onto the Ember spear.

07:28:25.220 --> 07:28:27.220
He's actually gonna burn down the GPK,

07:28:27.220 --> 07:28:29.760
who's now turning the carry for Betboom.

07:28:29.760 --> 07:28:33.120
As the Largo continuing to heal up to a high degree,

07:28:33.120 --> 07:28:34.460
finally taken out in the end,

07:28:34.460 --> 07:28:36.560
but GPK has just been left alone

07:28:36.560 --> 07:28:39.540
to do whatever he wants against Aurora,

07:28:39.540 --> 07:28:43.460
which turns into a freaking ultra kill for the puck.

07:28:43.460 --> 07:28:45.600
You talked about this hero able to carry,

07:28:45.600 --> 07:28:49.100
unlike the Ember, and we're seeing it here first hand.

07:28:49.100 --> 07:28:53.940
Yeah, he didn't even, he didn't even take it, oh he backpacked his disc I think in the middle of the fight.

07:28:53.940 --> 07:28:58.460
Really clutch to have the presence of mind to do that here from GPK as well.

07:28:59.540 --> 07:29:05.340
Massive influx of gold for him, and you were right, that was just a complete blunder from Kiritich, and they still draw.

07:29:06.340 --> 07:29:12.820
That was an Aegis thrown away into a second life doing almost nothing. I mean, it did tank damage and buy time,

07:29:12.820 --> 07:29:16.540
so that's the upside whenever Puck is playing with heroes that are durable, that's part of the value,

07:29:16.540 --> 07:29:22.960
You're just giving Puck plenty of time to get off some damage, but not really the role you want where it's a to usually play

07:29:24.860 --> 07:29:27.360
He is on fire ten one and seven now

07:29:28.240 --> 07:29:33.080
You're gonna see the replay here. So this I'm with you 100% you should just die here instead of using your stuff

07:29:33.080 --> 07:29:38.800
What did he toss to so confused? I'm not sure what he tossed him on actually, but yeah this this death is

07:29:39.760 --> 07:29:41.760
definitely not great

07:29:41.840 --> 07:29:46.080
But Largo Puck will save the day. Yeah a lot of sustain

07:29:46.540 --> 07:29:52.180
And GPK comes out on top essentially, but yeah, you're right.

07:29:52.180 --> 07:29:57.140
I think if you're Aurora you take this, you just don't have an answer to GPK anymore.

07:29:57.140 --> 07:30:00.340
It's getting very, very difficult to deal with.

07:30:00.340 --> 07:30:06.860
Of course, a lot was expended just to take out the Aegis, plus more to again.

07:30:06.860 --> 07:30:07.860
Yeah.

07:30:07.860 --> 07:30:10.900
They almost team wiped them.

07:30:10.900 --> 07:30:12.780
You see the hoodwink bottom left.

07:30:12.780 --> 07:30:13.780
Yeah.

07:30:13.780 --> 07:30:14.780
Close to being a rampage.

07:30:14.780 --> 07:30:17.340
Well, here's his rampage.

07:30:17.340 --> 07:30:18.340
There we go.

07:30:18.340 --> 07:30:19.340
Hit the late, yeah.

07:30:19.340 --> 07:30:20.980
I don't know if that counts.

07:30:20.980 --> 07:30:25.260
Still will go for the octurane, and this time they will be the recipient of a free shark

07:30:25.260 --> 07:30:31.380
which will go to either Tusk or Windrunner, and it will be the Tusk, so drinking buddies

07:30:31.380 --> 07:30:32.380
online.

07:30:32.380 --> 07:30:33.380
Yeah.

07:30:33.380 --> 07:30:38.500
Bit tough to use this game you're playing against these Roots, and Ember, and Underlord, but

07:30:38.500 --> 07:30:40.180
if nothing else you can give Armor.

07:30:40.180 --> 07:30:41.420
It's always nice.

07:30:41.420 --> 07:30:42.740
Wait, it gives Armor now?

07:30:42.740 --> 07:30:43.740
It gives 7 Armor.

07:30:43.740 --> 07:30:49.260
It doesn't give attack damage. No, because that's tag team if it did both it would be insane, right?

07:30:49.260 --> 07:30:53.420
Yeah, so okay, but the reason why this is so powerful is that you kind of have both now in

07:30:53.740 --> 07:30:59.060
740 you had to choose between do you want damage from tag team or damage from the other one now you can have damage armor move speed and

07:30:59.860 --> 07:31:05.460
The movement you have just have to pay for it. I thought tusk was gonna be first-faced picked when 741 came out

07:31:05.460 --> 07:31:07.460
I thought it was gonna be the support

07:31:07.940 --> 07:31:12.020
And in a lot of the games we've cast it's looked really really good

07:31:12.020 --> 07:31:20.400
So maybe it's been under prioritized a bit, but it's hard to make a case against heroes such as Phoenix and Rubik when you see the games of those heroes play

07:31:22.060 --> 07:31:24.360
I think Tusk maybe deserves to be a top five though

07:31:27.700 --> 07:31:29.700
Looking pretty good right now

07:31:31.420 --> 07:31:37.000
And I agree if he can eventually get that axe that you brought up earlier insane against the likes of tiny because you don't really have

07:31:37.000 --> 07:31:41.820
You do have harpoon I guess for some mobility, but it's just one puck. It's 25

07:31:41.820 --> 07:31:43.820
Which is almost happening already

07:31:44.440 --> 07:31:46.440
Gvk's level 24 minute 33

07:31:47.000 --> 07:31:52.620
You get the the coil pierces debuff immunity on 25 and then you kick them out of coil guaranteed stun

07:31:53.120 --> 07:31:57.880
Very strong against ember and the supports less so against tiny because of statuses was still good

07:31:57.880 --> 07:32:03.680
He's gonna find caretich so sure do chaotic offering used as well and that is a dead carry for bet boom

07:32:03.680 --> 07:32:04.680
No.

07:32:04.680 --> 07:32:05.680
Alright.

07:32:05.680 --> 07:32:06.680
Gonna use the support on top of that.

07:32:06.680 --> 07:32:08.680
Aurora showing some signs.

07:32:08.680 --> 07:32:12.080
Successful connections being made here.

07:32:12.080 --> 07:32:14.800
Okay, Aurora showing up with his eggs.

07:32:14.800 --> 07:32:16.480
So two golems.

07:32:16.480 --> 07:32:22.680
We'll start cutting the wave and maybe putting a bit of additional pressure and trying to

07:32:22.680 --> 07:32:24.880
corner bit boom perhaps, but yeah.

07:32:24.880 --> 07:32:27.080
A couple of key spells on cooldown now.

07:32:27.080 --> 07:32:29.360
Maybe this is all you're gonna get, but it's nice.

07:32:29.360 --> 07:32:30.360
The kills on Karatich.

07:32:30.360 --> 07:32:33.560
If Karatich was having a good game, this game would almost be done now, right?

07:32:33.560 --> 07:32:38.800
But he's two and five they've made sure to really try to target this Marsa and

07:32:39.560 --> 07:32:41.560
limit her impact

07:32:41.720 --> 07:32:45.960
Fortunately though for the radiant side it's debatable whether more says even the carry of the lineup

07:32:46.480 --> 07:32:48.480
Not like Largo with puck

07:32:48.720 --> 07:32:51.760
You have two carries fighting for the spotlight

07:32:53.000 --> 07:32:58.800
Yeah, and Miera almost has his BKB and that means he's just untouchable in fights now during that period

07:32:58.800 --> 07:33:01.520
Yeah, absolutely. They cannot kill him during the key

07:33:03.560 --> 07:33:08.080
He gets so much armor from playing songs, how much does he have when he's playing?

07:33:08.080 --> 07:33:11.480
38, with 5 grooving stacks.

07:33:11.480 --> 07:33:12.160
Not bad.

07:33:12.160 --> 07:33:14.280
Level 20 talent helps with that.

07:33:20.760 --> 07:33:23.720
For 25, do you take the right talent? I assume.

07:33:23.720 --> 07:33:25.320
Yeah, always.

07:33:25.320 --> 07:33:27.080
I don't think I've ever seen the left one.

07:33:27.080 --> 07:33:29.720
I mean, left one would be for support, which we don't see, right?

07:33:29.720 --> 07:33:32.400
Even for support, I think I'll still take the right one basically every time.

07:33:32.400 --> 07:33:32.880
Really?

07:33:32.880 --> 07:33:36.560
Yeah, the amplified songs is just really, really good.

07:33:37.440 --> 07:33:43.120
It's, I mean, no matter what role you play the hero in, in late game, he has two spells, right?

07:33:43.440 --> 07:33:46.560
He has Krog of genius and his old, and the rest is luxury.

07:33:46.720 --> 07:33:54.120
Is there any benefit for him going for, you know, Lotus, Lincoln's type? He already has the shard.

07:33:55.120 --> 07:33:56.120
Um...

07:33:56.120 --> 07:34:00.480
And they have top routes.

07:34:00.480 --> 07:34:03.320
Lotus is okay against the routes.

07:34:03.320 --> 07:34:04.820
Lincoln's would be...

07:34:04.820 --> 07:34:05.820
It's also good against fatal bonds.

07:34:05.820 --> 07:34:07.320
I actually wouldn't mind it.

07:34:07.320 --> 07:34:10.400
I think Lotus would be okay.

07:34:10.400 --> 07:34:11.400
More armor.

07:34:11.400 --> 07:34:15.120
Imagine licking someone, Lotus is a different person.

07:34:15.120 --> 07:34:16.520
You're getting so much value.

07:34:16.520 --> 07:34:17.520
Yeah.

07:34:17.520 --> 07:34:20.560
No, I could definitely see Lotus being a thing here.

07:34:20.560 --> 07:34:22.920
GPK has officially hit 25.

07:34:22.920 --> 07:34:24.840
Oh, he took the Waningriff talent, actually.

07:34:24.840 --> 07:34:26.400
He didn't take the debuff, Pierce.

07:34:26.400 --> 07:34:27.600
Huh.

07:34:27.600 --> 07:34:29.200
Okay.

07:34:29.200 --> 07:34:31.680
So huge radius on the silence.

07:34:31.680 --> 07:34:33.800
And we can see it right there, and I fall.

07:34:33.800 --> 07:34:35.360
Actually gets it.

07:34:35.360 --> 07:34:38.120
Gonna be able to pop out of the coil.

07:34:38.120 --> 07:34:39.840
Already at half HP,

07:34:39.840 --> 07:34:41.040
because Makoto went really deep.

07:34:41.040 --> 07:34:42.680
He's at half HP already.

07:34:42.680 --> 07:34:45.040
He gets punched in the air and destroyed.

07:34:45.040 --> 07:34:47.280
And that's into a Muerta who popped.

07:34:47.280 --> 07:34:49.000
Actually, she didn't even pop ult.

07:34:49.000 --> 07:34:51.400
She just decimated him without it.

07:34:51.400 --> 07:34:53.640
And the Underlord left all alone,

07:34:53.640 --> 07:35:02.640
Attempting to TP, he's going to get punched out again, off cooldown just in time, double kill for Keratich, man-o-man.

07:35:02.640 --> 07:35:09.640
I understand why they're just tipping GPK. Sure, he didn't kill anyone there, but he basically turned the fight into a 4v2.

07:35:09.640 --> 07:35:14.640
He just zoned three heroes by himself, jumped a tiny and the other heroes in the backline.

07:35:14.640 --> 07:35:23.640
Ember went in expecting backup, but GPK was blocking off the entire path for the enemy team, so he just gets left out to dry and...

07:35:23.640 --> 07:35:26.640
I don't think I've seen this talent taken before.

07:35:26.640 --> 07:35:27.640
That's not that common.

07:35:27.640 --> 07:35:28.640
It looks insane, though.

07:35:28.640 --> 07:35:29.640
It is very strong.

07:35:29.640 --> 07:35:30.640
That AoE is enormous.

07:35:32.640 --> 07:35:34.640
I like his line of thinking here of...

07:35:34.640 --> 07:35:35.640
Look at that, that sucks.

07:35:35.640 --> 07:35:39.640
There's gonna blink and silence the backline and keep the supports out of play.

07:35:39.640 --> 07:35:46.640
It gives you more damage, effectively, because you're just going to hit more heroes on average.

07:35:46.640 --> 07:35:48.640
So your teamfight impact will be higher.

07:35:48.640 --> 07:35:54.640
This one I'm talking about, Center. GPK, like, he was such a flashy, please less flashy now, way more consistent.

07:35:54.640 --> 07:35:57.640
The old GPK takes the other talent every single time.

07:35:57.640 --> 07:35:58.640
Hmm.

07:35:58.640 --> 07:36:02.640
There's Meera caught off guard, foil on top of him, gets off the sharpshooter.

07:36:02.640 --> 07:36:05.640
GPK not able to guess correctly this time.

07:36:05.640 --> 07:36:07.640
Good juke.

07:36:07.640 --> 07:36:13.320
But, meanwhile, Keratich with that Aegis takes out the Tier 2 bot.

07:36:13.320 --> 07:36:18.080
Let's see if they prioritize to get the collection in the top lane.

07:36:18.080 --> 07:36:19.080
Hmm.

07:36:19.080 --> 07:36:21.800
Nifle has Daedalus.

07:36:21.800 --> 07:36:25.760
He's going Blink on top of Shadowblade and Harpoon.

07:36:25.760 --> 07:36:26.760
Hmm.

07:36:26.760 --> 07:36:31.480
I'm a little bit worried about their damage, which sounds weird to say when you have Tiny

07:36:31.480 --> 07:36:36.680
Carry and Ember, but I actually don't know if Tiny Buying Blink is going to work.

07:36:36.680 --> 07:36:39.940
Just like they do need it against GPK, but the problem is the E on this.

07:36:39.940 --> 07:36:42.060
I just don't think your lineup solves Puck at all.

07:36:42.060 --> 07:36:49.580
I genuinely don't think at this point you can itemize against him, you should itemize against everyone else and try to kill them, and then deal with Puck last.

07:36:49.580 --> 07:36:55.820
If you try to go and Puck in the fight, you're just going to waste your time, lose all your spells, not end up killing him and everyone else has a free fight.

07:36:55.820 --> 07:37:03.540
And that's tough. The Puck was first picked, and you kind of haven't countered it at all as far as I'm concerned, except with Tiny.

07:37:03.540 --> 07:37:07.380
but he's not going to be able to do it alone when Puck is this far ahead.

07:37:07.380 --> 07:37:10.260
Are you just not going to kill him?

07:37:10.260 --> 07:37:13.980
Maybe the idea is with Blink that he can kind of force the disc really fast and then try

07:37:13.980 --> 07:37:18.900
to reset and go again.

07:37:18.900 --> 07:37:20.860
It's just kind of a catch-22.

07:37:20.860 --> 07:37:23.500
The heroes of the Radiant are just way too tanky now.

07:37:23.500 --> 07:37:28.300
The only hero you're reliably killing is Muerta out of the course, but she is Aegis.

07:37:28.300 --> 07:37:30.300
Largo is a tough takedown.

07:37:35.780 --> 07:37:39.460
When's the last time we've seen a more right-click-centric ember?

07:37:39.460 --> 07:37:41.460
Like, how many years?

07:37:41.460 --> 07:37:47.100
Is that just not a thing at all that you can consider as GPK, waning Rift, silences half the team?

07:37:47.100 --> 07:37:48.500
He gets hexed, though.

07:37:48.500 --> 07:37:51.500
Bushback to follow, Pid-A-Mouse as well, but the sidelines save.

07:37:51.500 --> 07:37:56.300
They get a beautiful shackle onto two, into the focus fire, into the death on Makoto.

07:37:56.300 --> 07:38:01.360
He does have the buyback, question is, does he have to expend it 2 and a half minutes on the Aegis for Beth Boom?

07:38:02.360 --> 07:38:05.860
GPK on the cliff, what an annoying hero to deal with.

07:38:06.660 --> 07:38:25.900
They use the pit, not too much effect though, they get the bounce back, there's the Agilex though into the toss, the Snowball trying to save him, just inside, in time, Kenny blink out, he's still alive somehow, as Kiritich still has the ult with the BKB as well, we'll finally pop it, Makoto on the sideline, taking out the toss easily, and somehow GPK survives all of this, save.

07:38:26.300 --> 07:38:32.300
It's licked out of the pit. Looks like they want to reset. They've already killed off two supports for Aurora

07:38:32.300 --> 07:38:35.300
and forced out the buyback on Makoto.

07:38:35.300 --> 07:38:39.300
And the trade was basically just the death out of the tusk into a buyback.

07:38:39.300 --> 07:38:44.300
That was a good try though. Honestly, they were very close to killing GBK. They popped the disc first

07:38:44.300 --> 07:38:48.300
and then they got a second initiation but the snowball saved clutch from Katoomi.

07:38:48.300 --> 07:38:53.300
GBK, Coil, they want to kill off Makoto. This would be a dieback. He's going to have to use the BKB.

07:38:53.300 --> 07:39:00.780
BKB there's the pit from WS though and the reconnection is care attention company can just focus on the buildings whose GPK could take

07:39:00.860 --> 07:39:07.100
Care of everything else apparently. I think I saw a 9-12 on the tiny so they're like, okay

07:39:07.100 --> 07:39:13.380
I mean they're just giving this up, right? Yeah, 100 percent. That'd be right. That's one lane for that boom. A minute on Aegis

07:39:14.540 --> 07:39:19.300
GPK just teeping out in front of their faces even didn't even orb out of the base

07:39:19.300 --> 07:39:20.300
he's

07:39:20.300 --> 07:39:21.300
that's constant

07:39:21.300 --> 07:39:23.900
there's a damage in there too, oh boy

07:39:23.900 --> 07:39:24.900
if they see this

07:39:24.900 --> 07:39:25.900
aww

07:39:25.900 --> 07:39:27.900
do you give it to Muerta or do you give it to GPT?

07:39:27.900 --> 07:39:30.900
I would put it on a puck

07:39:30.900 --> 07:39:32.300
Karatich is running for it

07:39:32.300 --> 07:39:35.300
does he have a bottle anymore?

07:39:35.300 --> 07:39:36.300
no bottle?

07:39:36.300 --> 07:39:38.800
very slow with the

07:39:38.800 --> 07:39:39.800
how he died?

07:39:39.800 --> 07:39:40.800
he left the bottle on the ground

07:39:40.800 --> 07:39:42.800
I see so they are letting Karatich have it

07:39:42.800 --> 07:39:45.300
okay

07:39:45.300 --> 07:39:47.800
I don't think there was a bad target for that

07:39:47.800 --> 07:39:54.160
He's also doing a lot of damage, but obviously better targets than others.

07:39:54.160 --> 07:39:58.640
Now Moritz might use it to think about a second set here, 30 seconds on Aegis though.

07:39:58.640 --> 07:40:05.720
Got to be a little bit careful with the timing of this if you're Betboom.

07:40:05.720 --> 07:40:06.720
He already pops it.

07:40:06.720 --> 07:40:13.600
Aegis about to be expanded to get the Shackle on the sidelines, WS all alone.

07:40:13.600 --> 07:40:17.600
And that's an easy kill for Batboom. 80 seconds without Underlord.

07:40:20.600 --> 07:40:23.600
He's just about to go bye-bye, but I don't think they're going to stop here.

07:40:23.600 --> 07:40:26.600
They're going to try to force a buyback that does not exist.

07:40:27.600 --> 07:40:32.600
These 70 gold away. He's so close. They can just get a bounty rune.

07:40:34.600 --> 07:40:35.600
Yeah, there's none to claim though.

07:40:36.600 --> 07:40:39.600
Barrettage can now focus on the buildings.

07:40:39.600 --> 07:40:44.200
This is going to be a second lane at least there's still a tier two top though

07:40:46.320 --> 07:40:48.320
Makoto just pushing out the bot lane

07:40:49.840 --> 07:40:51.840
Yeah, they just have to give it up

07:40:52.440 --> 07:40:57.520
Go fight over the final bear. It's eventually and if you're back, we'll be probably just wait for the next ages

07:40:57.520 --> 07:40:59.240
Anyway, you reset here

07:40:59.240 --> 07:41:03.160
Bye back now online for WS, but obviously far too late

07:41:03.160 --> 07:41:16.120
Backs against the wall for Aurora, this feels like a last chance type of situation.

07:41:16.120 --> 07:41:19.780
If you lose the next fight it's over and I'm still, I'm trying to wrap my head around

07:41:19.780 --> 07:41:22.500
strategically how they're lined up to initiate the fight.

07:41:22.500 --> 07:41:24.540
That's the biggest problem here.

07:41:24.540 --> 07:41:28.640
Sometimes when you're far behind you can have an idea that's going to work and sometimes

07:41:28.640 --> 07:41:30.260
that's obvious, sometimes it's hard to find.

07:41:30.260 --> 07:41:36.620
I'm really struggling to see the way this line of initiates that is going to lead to a victory in a team fight.

07:41:37.540 --> 07:41:42.700
Dammit if you go on puck, dammit if you don't. I guess the best option is to blast Kiritich and then play it from there.

07:41:43.060 --> 07:41:45.220
If you can do that, that'd be a start.

07:41:45.620 --> 07:41:46.460
See you later, Captain.

07:41:46.660 --> 07:41:47.780
Okay, Ori was...

07:41:49.340 --> 07:41:53.180
trying to do a little bit of shenanigans here. He's actually closest refresher now.

07:41:53.180 --> 07:41:53.680
Okay.

07:41:54.140 --> 07:41:56.740
We have another Tormentor take down, but boom, just...

07:41:57.780 --> 07:41:58.740
adding up the...

07:41:58.740 --> 07:41:59.780
Only one guard left.

07:41:59.780 --> 07:42:03.060
That's a spectral slug, we'll see if he even uses this ability.

07:42:05.620 --> 07:42:07.060
Nobody ever buys this.

07:42:10.180 --> 07:42:12.980
So it's a knockback on an enemy that turns them ethereal.

07:42:12.980 --> 07:42:15.340
It's like the old Ags, but a worse version, I guess?

07:42:15.340 --> 07:42:16.140
Yeah, kind of.

07:42:16.620 --> 07:42:20.140
It doesn't stun them, pull out their soul, whatever the old one does.

07:42:20.340 --> 07:42:23.660
That's genuinely probably the most confusing spell of all time in Dota.

07:42:23.660 --> 07:42:28.220
I feel like nobody fully understood how it worked, and then they removed it.

07:42:28.220 --> 07:42:32.220
Thank God for that. I hate to talk about it.

07:42:32.220 --> 07:42:38.220
Severus the soul. Oh, PKB force from Makoto casually here by GPK.

07:42:38.220 --> 07:42:42.220
So that's another disadvantage now for Aurora.

07:42:48.220 --> 07:42:52.220
Yep, good words. Well said. Keep trying.

07:42:52.220 --> 07:42:59.220
This is good timing for Pet Boom, they can be able to get this tier 2 and then Rosh potentially could spawn.

07:42:59.220 --> 07:43:03.220
It is the right attitude by the way there from Mera. We have to try and if we fuck up it is what it is.

07:43:03.220 --> 07:43:07.220
If we don't try we're going to lose by default. This is the mindset you need to have when you're far behind us.

07:43:07.220 --> 07:43:15.220
You have to try and if it fails whatever, there's no good other option available.

07:43:15.220 --> 07:43:20.220
I wonder what was said before this, like what is he talking about that they could fuck up or should try, right?

07:43:20.220 --> 07:43:24.020
Right like maybe they're like oh wow the idea we have is so hard and they're like yeah

07:43:24.020 --> 07:43:27.280
We can't do that and mirrors like it doesn't matter if we can't do it. We have to try

07:43:29.340 --> 07:43:34.100
Just kind of funny when you think back of someone on some of the most ridiculous comebacks in Dota history

07:43:34.100 --> 07:43:38.180
It's always off something that in theory should be impossible, right? That's why it's never

07:43:38.740 --> 07:43:40.660
That's why it's so surprising the comebacks happen

07:43:40.660 --> 07:43:46.540
But you have to go for the crazy play especially because sometimes the enemy team is never gonna ever imagine you would do it

07:43:46.540 --> 07:43:50.540
They're like, there's no way in hell they try this, of course they know they can't do it.

07:43:50.540 --> 07:43:53.540
And then guess what? Because you don't think they will.

07:43:53.540 --> 07:43:58.540
Maybe it's gonna work. But, well, I think this is where you should have stood your ground.

07:43:58.540 --> 07:44:02.540
If I'm honest. I think giving this one away is...

07:44:04.540 --> 07:44:05.540
Now...

07:44:05.540 --> 07:44:06.540
You have one foot at the door here.

07:44:06.540 --> 07:44:09.540
Yeah, now you need to really nail it.

07:44:09.540 --> 07:44:11.540
Ageless cheese refresher.

07:44:11.540 --> 07:44:13.540
Alright, it's all on you, buddy.

07:44:13.540 --> 07:44:15.540
Yeah, push that wave.

07:44:15.540 --> 07:44:21.700
that's enough for refresher yeah okay let's theorize here what's the best way

07:44:21.700 --> 07:44:25.540
I before this ages I would say blast all in where to play the fight after that

07:44:25.540 --> 07:44:29.300
that is not going to work anymore realistically with the ages unless he

07:44:29.300 --> 07:44:36.740
pops old you can't go on Puck first too difficult to kill Largo has 4.5k health

07:44:36.740 --> 07:44:42.260
and 40 armor probably too difficult to kill the supports you're running out of

07:44:42.260 --> 07:44:45.140
things for them to go on, Sindarin.

07:44:45.140 --> 07:44:47.140
Yeah.

07:44:47.140 --> 07:44:49.580
It's very telling, isn't it?

07:44:49.580 --> 07:44:51.780
I don't think the supports are going to offer themself up.

07:44:51.780 --> 07:44:54.380
If you can jump and kill save, I think that's a great start.

07:44:54.380 --> 07:44:56.940
But he's probably just going to play very defensively.

07:44:56.940 --> 07:44:59.580
He has dagger, lotus, and shards.

07:44:59.580 --> 07:45:02.340
He can just play 1,500 range behind his teammates.

07:45:02.340 --> 07:45:06.420
They need to go to the corner of the map and activate the bug.

07:45:06.420 --> 07:45:09.300
They need to re-grow their barracks.

07:45:09.300 --> 07:45:11.340
They need to smoke around and jump the supports.

07:45:11.340 --> 07:45:14.860
i don't think that's also another option i prefer mine personally but

07:45:14.860 --> 07:45:16.820
uh...

07:45:16.820 --> 07:45:19.300
if the other thing is possible i think that's better

07:45:19.300 --> 07:45:21.100
and i don't think it's in the game though

07:45:21.100 --> 07:45:23.660
uh... we don't know that for sure you can't prove it

07:45:23.660 --> 07:45:26.180
no that's right

07:45:26.180 --> 07:45:29.580
this is how religions are starting to believe we start believing in the worm

07:45:29.580 --> 07:45:31.020
have faith

07:45:31.020 --> 07:45:35.700
start believing in the worm that responds to barracks it was always here

07:45:35.700 --> 07:45:39.100
now a moment of need it will come as the roche banner

07:45:39.100 --> 07:45:44.100
I forget the coil, Makoto, snipe from the other side, not enough for the kill quite yet.

07:45:45.100 --> 07:45:46.100
Gets off the slide at fist.

07:45:47.100 --> 07:45:51.100
Sharp shooter is not going to do too much here as Kiritich focusing on buildings again.

07:45:52.100 --> 07:45:57.100
Puts down the call ink, fortification, likely the last of the game from Aurora. They're tier 3, about to fall.

07:45:58.100 --> 07:45:59.100
There's the slide at fist.

07:46:00.100 --> 07:46:02.100
And the initiation potentially, no Makoto, goes back out.

07:46:03.100 --> 07:46:06.100
That weaning rift is doing so much work. There's the pierce available into the hex.

07:46:06.100 --> 07:46:11.100
X so they're not able to do anything to this Muerta as the building's about to fall.

07:46:11.100 --> 07:46:14.100
Somebody just needs to right-click that tower at any point.

07:46:14.100 --> 07:46:18.100
Even the creeps will do. They finally get it.

07:46:18.100 --> 07:46:21.100
Now just the barracks away from mega creeps.

07:46:21.100 --> 07:46:24.100
So that's one golem for one pierced the veil.

07:46:24.100 --> 07:46:26.100
One of these cooldowns is not like the other though.

07:46:26.100 --> 07:46:28.100
True, but one has a refresher somewhere in.

07:46:28.100 --> 07:46:32.100
Yep. The other one almost has it ready again and has a refresher in the backpack.

07:46:32.100 --> 07:46:33.100
Oh, okay.

07:46:33.100 --> 07:46:40.140
So, the Roche banner, they're just aggroing the creeps, the Golem has died.

07:46:40.140 --> 07:46:43.620
WS already happened, she walked up the BKB, Largo very, very tanky.

07:46:43.620 --> 07:46:47.060
They actually find the connection onto Kiritich, but it's healing up a huge amount of heal

07:46:47.060 --> 07:46:48.660
as WS tries to run away.

07:46:48.660 --> 07:46:54.140
Another Golem comes out, but they die instantly to Kiritich's right-click and GPK,

07:46:54.140 --> 07:46:57.140
creating so much space on the backline with the coil.

07:46:57.140 --> 07:46:59.820
Nightfall on the backline, trying to kill a support, he can't even do that.

07:46:59.820 --> 07:47:02.140
He has to nightfall back to base.

07:47:02.140 --> 07:47:04.060
That is not a good sign.

07:47:04.060 --> 07:47:05.780
There's the hex though onto GPK,

07:47:05.780 --> 07:47:06.620
but the building's falling,

07:47:06.620 --> 07:47:08.940
there's gonna be mega creeps now for Bed Boom.

07:47:08.940 --> 07:47:13.260
Mira on the run, GPK cannot be stopped at all.

07:47:13.260 --> 07:47:15.180
And there's the pierced avail

07:47:15.180 --> 07:47:17.260
to bring Nightfall to his knees

07:47:17.260 --> 07:47:19.220
as GGs are called,

07:47:19.220 --> 07:47:21.260
and Bed Boom are your champions.

07:47:21.260 --> 07:47:23.020
My goodness, what a display.

07:47:23.020 --> 07:47:23.980
Holy.

07:47:23.980 --> 07:47:25.700
It's been a while since I've seen this dominant

07:47:25.700 --> 07:47:26.540
in the Grand Finals,

07:47:26.540 --> 07:47:28.180
not only was this a 3-0,

07:47:28.180 --> 07:47:29.820
but in two of the games,

07:47:29.820 --> 07:47:33.720
Aurora looked like completely out of their depth.

07:47:33.720 --> 07:47:34.980
What a crazy win.

07:47:34.980 --> 07:47:37.720
And that's the thing about Beth, when we always talk about

07:47:37.720 --> 07:47:39.980
this team, how in any given tournament, you know,

07:47:39.980 --> 07:47:41.040
they're always a threat.

07:47:41.040 --> 07:47:44.340
And then they sometimes they like get close,

07:47:44.340 --> 07:47:45.540
and then it's not quite it.

07:47:45.540 --> 07:47:48.740
They have some flaws that put them in third, fourth place

07:47:48.740 --> 07:47:49.940
in a lot of tournaments.

07:47:49.940 --> 07:47:52.900
This time around, they were the top dog the whole way.

07:47:52.900 --> 07:47:54.980
Like this was always going to be the team to beat.

07:47:54.980 --> 07:47:59.020
And really, nobody truly came close

07:47:59.020 --> 07:48:00.360
when all is said and done, the Grand Finals

07:48:00.360 --> 07:48:02.300
should have been the full, the full test,

07:48:02.300 --> 07:48:05.220
but this was one of the easier series of the tournament.

07:48:05.220 --> 07:48:06.980
Yeah, and I'm shocked.

07:48:06.980 --> 07:48:10.100
I mean, not that they won the Grand Finals,

07:48:10.100 --> 07:48:13.020
but if they did in this fashion, three, zero,

07:48:13.020 --> 07:48:16.140
I'm so happy for Karrot, that he looks elated.

07:48:16.140 --> 07:48:17.740
And they're gonna give thanks, of course,

07:48:17.740 --> 07:48:20.980
and congratulations to Aurora,

07:48:20.980 --> 07:48:23.180
who had a very good run as well, Cinder.

07:48:23.180 --> 07:48:27.860
They've had some very good showings in the last few tournaments.

07:48:27.860 --> 07:48:29.940
This was no exception.

07:48:29.940 --> 07:48:33.140
Just wasn't enough on this grand stage.

07:48:33.140 --> 07:48:37.740
It's a GPK having an absolutely monstrous performance

07:48:37.740 --> 07:48:38.700
on this puck.

07:48:40.340 --> 07:48:45.180
Fuyero and his chiseled body ready to lift that trophy.

07:48:45.180 --> 07:48:48.620
As we can finally say, the grand champions here

07:48:48.620 --> 07:48:52.420
at PGL Valachia season eight is Bat Boom.

07:48:57.860 --> 07:48:59.860
I

07:49:27.860 --> 07:49:38.420
Ladies and gentlemen, oh one more please raise that shoulder up yeah

07:49:41.460 --> 07:49:46.100
You winners of VP of block here season eight congratulations bet boom team

07:49:47.220 --> 07:49:53.780
Always season I believe it was six fourth place seven third place and now here we go

07:49:53.780 --> 07:49:58.180
8th, first place. You've been around this team for a long time, man. You've seen it rise. You've

07:49:58.180 --> 07:50:03.460
seen them get good again. Katayomi, any words for the boys here as you've watched them grow this

07:50:03.460 --> 07:50:10.820
entire time? I'm super proud of my guys that we like managed to come back to the top. You know, we

07:50:11.780 --> 07:50:20.180
work hard every day. We play a lot. We found our meta or heroes. Like, yeah. Yeah, congratulations.

07:50:20.180 --> 07:50:26.660
the boys deserve the boys earned it and you did too well done thank you so much oh my boy here I

07:50:26.660 --> 07:50:31.860
touch there's a big moment at the beginning of the tournament you said it means so much to me

07:50:31.860 --> 07:50:38.340
to get my first big land win and here we are I live it to you man how you feeling feeling very

07:50:38.340 --> 07:50:43.940
good so I'm so excited about this win and just it's just in my dream 10 years ago I have one

07:50:43.940 --> 07:50:51.540
1000 MMR. Right now I'm winning big one. I don't know. It's so funny. So funny. And I also want to say

07:50:53.380 --> 07:50:56.180
about I want to say for my family on Russian.

07:51:04.900 --> 07:51:09.460
All right. Fantastic. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the boy. The first one you earned it. You were

07:51:09.460 --> 07:51:15.460
amazing. Miero, alright, the boys always gave you the biggest picks, you know, they saved

07:51:15.460 --> 07:51:21.020
your picks for last, full trust in you, you delivered baby, their trust was earned, any

07:51:21.020 --> 07:51:26.540
words to these guys coming up and living up to that opportunity?

07:51:26.540 --> 07:51:33.140
I'm very happy that the team is believing for me and I can reach the last pick, so thanks

07:51:33.140 --> 07:51:40.020
our drafters especially the best drafts this tournament very enjoy and thank you so much.

07:51:40.020 --> 07:51:45.100
Hey thank you for an incredible grand finals thank you very much save my man no one else

07:51:45.100 --> 07:51:49.860
in this world can play support win ranger absolutely disgusting stuff they can't ban

07:51:49.860 --> 07:51:54.700
you they can't understand you what do you have to say for yourself that was nasty shit

07:51:54.700 --> 07:52:00.820
I mean probably I didn't play 1500 games in win ranger in vain you know so I can pretty

07:52:00.820 --> 07:52:05.620
here in Grand Final, but that doesn't matter on the scene, so I just want to say one thing,

07:52:05.620 --> 07:52:08.260
like, Bullcaters, where are you now?

07:52:08.260 --> 07:52:09.260
See?

07:52:09.260 --> 07:52:12.580
A case with us on the tournament, but we still won.

07:52:12.580 --> 07:52:13.580
Still won?

07:52:13.580 --> 07:52:18.420
One thanks to him, most would say, thank you so much for a great game, appreciate you.

07:52:18.420 --> 07:52:21.220
We got to keep one of the best for last.

07:52:21.220 --> 07:52:23.060
There's been a lot of debates, who's the best?

07:52:23.060 --> 07:52:27.900
We got Nisha, we got Makoto, but now it is over, everyone knows the best puck in the

07:52:27.900 --> 07:52:28.900
world.

07:52:28.900 --> 07:52:32.580
GPK, baby! What do you have to say to everybody at home?

07:52:33.900 --> 07:52:35.380
Thank you all for your support.

07:52:36.380 --> 07:52:37.740
Martina, I love you.

07:52:39.140 --> 07:52:40.380
There's nothing more to say.

07:52:40.740 --> 07:52:42.020
Easy. Easy 3-0.

07:52:42.300 --> 07:52:45.620
Easy! Alright. GG. Easy indeed.

07:52:45.620 --> 07:52:46.620
Alright, and where's Bull?

07:52:46.620 --> 07:52:48.220
Let's get him up. There he is. Come on.

07:52:48.460 --> 07:52:49.540
We gotta talk to you.

07:52:50.020 --> 07:52:51.420
You've watched this team grow.

07:52:51.540 --> 07:52:52.980
You've had a lot of haters.

07:52:54.180 --> 07:52:55.900
But somehow you proved them wrong.

07:52:55.900 --> 07:52:56.900
What do you have to say to the team?

07:52:56.900 --> 07:52:58.620
What do you have to say to everybody at home?

07:52:58.620 --> 07:53:08.420
for this big win thank you well we see this team winning again soon I hope so

07:53:08.420 --> 07:53:14.260
all right first of many many many all right ladies and gentlemen one more

07:53:14.260 --> 07:53:18.860
time please put your hands together for the winners of pitch of a lockout

07:53:18.860 --> 07:53:32.360
season eight! BAAAAAAM! BOOM! Wooo! Congratulations Beth, what a journey, what a road, not dropping

07:53:32.360 --> 07:53:37.940
and single series this entire run, Tigo. Yeah, not only that, throwing the Grand Finals,

07:53:37.940 --> 07:53:42.740
we only ever had one of our Grand Finals in this season, that was a 3-0, such a BB to

07:53:42.740 --> 07:53:46.940
do that in a very competitive field, we're getting the back and forths of 3-2s, the 3-1s,

07:53:46.940 --> 07:53:51.700
them to walk into his grand finals and honestly just make Aurora look like a weak team, it's

07:53:51.700 --> 07:53:55.100
so impressive to how good BB is right now.

07:53:55.100 --> 07:53:59.780
They're on point with the drafts and everything, they talked about it, they look good, they

07:53:59.780 --> 07:54:04.500
look like a squad and really happy how they are empowering Kirit, which is well you can

07:54:04.500 --> 07:54:08.700
see on his face how much that victory meant to him because he was giving shout out to

07:54:08.700 --> 07:54:14.100
his mom as well, that was pretty much for her and it's just very wholesome to watch.

07:54:14.100 --> 07:54:19.780
I mean, they're the guys that had their moms on their, the Bat Boom logo last season.

07:54:19.780 --> 07:54:22.820
So, you know, it's nice to see that finally it comes, it comes full circle.

07:54:22.820 --> 07:54:22.980
Yeah.

07:54:22.980 --> 07:54:30.860
I mean, the thing is, in Dota, we haven't been blessed with so many like five game grand finals in the last year, I feel like.

07:54:30.860 --> 07:54:44.060
And it's almost, it's interesting to see, obviously we would love five games, crazy hype, but it is interesting to see a team that is finally so much better than the other top six teams that they dominate.

07:54:44.060 --> 07:54:49.580
in this fashion because the top six and Dota has been highly competitive for a very long time now.

07:54:49.580 --> 07:54:54.540
Like I didn't think this was ever going to be possible again that you would have a blowout like

07:54:54.540 --> 07:54:59.420
this unless it was just like the worst match I've ever but this is just not how it's been for

07:54:59.420 --> 07:55:05.100
Betoom Aurora historically. They do fine against each other you know it doesn't it doesn't go like

07:55:05.100 --> 07:55:09.100
this but Betoom have just ascended in this tournament. Yeah if anything Aurora actually

07:55:09.100 --> 07:55:15.660
hand-bedroom number for the majority of 2020. So this was definitely something clicking at the right

07:55:15.660 --> 07:55:21.340
time. Interestingly enough, for BedBoom, with obviously a slightly different roster,

07:55:21.340 --> 07:55:27.980
but Wallachia Season 5, the previous Wallachia title, BedBoom God, was at this exact same time

07:55:27.980 --> 07:55:32.220
slot. So this team peaking at the right time, of course. Picking at the right time, that's what

07:55:32.220 --> 07:55:37.420
matters right before EWC, right before TI. This is where you don't want to be feeling very good.

07:55:37.420 --> 07:55:42.140
It was with a different carry, but also getting that first land first year one victory for carriage

07:55:42.140 --> 07:55:46.140
Which means a lot for the boost of the team as well showing that they can win

07:55:46.140 --> 07:55:50.140
It's just something that you want to be going forward knowing that you can actually win

07:55:50.140 --> 07:55:55.340
And this is something you want to see knowing that there are two big tournaments coming out in the next couple of months

07:55:55.340 --> 07:56:01.780
It's it's absolutely imperative that they got this like it's going to be a huge confidence boost for him

07:56:01.780 --> 07:56:09.060
going into grand finals like the big thing that you worry about is the that grand finals jitters, which

07:56:09.700 --> 07:56:14.140
Yeah, you felt it. We're ready like we felt it in this series, right?

07:56:14.140 --> 07:56:18.420
So now they have the the practice under the belt specifically for the carry player on that. Yeah

07:56:18.420 --> 07:56:21.020
We felt it on the side of a roar this time. Yes. Well, yes

07:56:21.620 --> 07:56:27.140
Maybe next grand finals. They will also have a little bit more experience there one other thing that I think people will

07:56:27.140 --> 07:56:30.140
I feel like they got away very

07:56:30.140 --> 07:56:32.140
frequently to go with just a

07:56:32.140 --> 07:56:33.140
lot of heroes that like, oh,

07:56:33.140 --> 07:56:35.140
yeah, of course we're seeing

07:56:35.140 --> 07:56:36.140
GBK. But GBK only died twice in

07:56:36.140 --> 07:56:37.140
this entire best of five. Yeah,

07:56:37.140 --> 07:56:38.140
I mean, he had just an

07:56:38.140 --> 07:56:39.140
incredible series on the

07:56:39.140 --> 07:56:40.140
mid lane. But you know, we

07:56:40.140 --> 07:56:41.140
heard it in the interview

07:56:41.140 --> 07:56:42.140
right there. The respect that

07:56:42.140 --> 07:56:43.140
mirror has within the draft.

07:56:43.140 --> 07:56:45.140
Like everyone knows that GBK

07:56:45.140 --> 07:56:46.140
is going to pop off on an

07:56:46.140 --> 07:56:47.140
early phase mid lane. He

07:56:47.140 --> 07:56:48.140
doesn't care about the

07:56:48.140 --> 07:56:49.140
counter matchups. He's going

07:56:49.140 --> 07:56:50.140
to play his game because

07:56:50.140 --> 07:56:51.140
mirror. He's going to step up.

07:56:51.140 --> 07:56:52.140
He's going to fix the

07:56:52.140 --> 07:56:53.140
problems, even if you're

07:56:53.140 --> 07:56:54.140
playing the band safe, right?

07:56:54.140 --> 07:56:55.140
We're going to have to get

07:56:55.140 --> 07:56:58.260
even if you're playing a band safe, right, with a hoodwink or a rubik,

07:56:58.260 --> 07:57:01.620
it has a windranger. Not many other people are even trying to play this hero,

07:57:01.620 --> 07:57:05.620
but the multi-hero shackle shots constantly being a thorn in the side of Aurora.

07:57:05.620 --> 07:57:07.860
And just the 1500 windranger games?

07:57:07.860 --> 07:57:11.380
Yeah, it's insane. And also the hero pairing that they did have,

07:57:11.380 --> 07:57:14.420
having this Tusk plus windranger, where you can solo kill,

07:57:14.420 --> 07:57:17.940
but any hero on the map with the Taktim and Focus are still going to do the damage.

07:57:17.940 --> 07:57:21.620
But yeah, GPK popped off completely. They were all over the place,

07:57:21.620 --> 07:57:23.620
helping him out in every possible way.

07:57:23.620 --> 07:57:29.340
And this is what you want to have as well, like you want to have supports who help you out, but you deliver like they always talk

07:57:29.340 --> 07:57:35.780
Highly about GPK in every single interview for a good reason. This was a very scary tournament from him like he

07:57:36.820 --> 07:57:39.560
Looked like he was a caliber ahead of every other mid player

07:57:39.580 --> 07:57:43.420
He looked like he knew he was a caliber ahead of every other mid player

07:57:43.460 --> 07:57:49.680
Which once again, I will say I didn't even think we could go back to that in Dota because all the teams were

07:57:49.680 --> 07:58:00.680
It's crazy to me that a team can still improve to that degree of player can improve to that degree after playing for so long and have this sort of performance. Very cool stuff.

07:58:00.680 --> 07:58:13.680
Yeah, and if anybody is one KMMR and heard now Kiriti saying you know 10 years and you can reach the top 10 years ago. Kiriti was 12. So, you know, it's 12. If you're one KMMR, you got a shot.

07:58:13.680 --> 07:58:16.680
year old watch. Oh, yeah, you

07:58:16.680 --> 07:58:18.680
want to do it. It'll just take

07:58:18.680 --> 07:58:20.680
ten years. What about the

07:58:20.680 --> 07:58:21.680
four year olds? You know, the

07:58:21.680 --> 07:58:22.680
full time wage is who is still

07:58:22.680 --> 07:58:23.680
one K you know, guns. Yeah,

07:58:23.680 --> 07:58:24.680
they have much more experience

07:58:24.680 --> 07:58:26.680
than those trouble year old

07:58:26.680 --> 07:58:27.680
when there's that 20 36. Yeah,

07:58:27.680 --> 07:58:29.680
when there's that turbo

07:58:29.680 --> 07:58:31.680
tournament in 10 years, the

07:58:31.680 --> 07:58:34.680
turbo T I. That's okay. That's

07:58:34.680 --> 07:58:37.680
for you. No, it was I felt like

07:58:37.680 --> 07:58:39.680
a very wholesome and I know it's

07:58:39.680 --> 07:58:41.680
a 30 and it weren't the most

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back and forth games we've

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here of that boom is a very cool story. Yeah, it's all about kind of organizational trust

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in players, right? If we take away caretich from the roster, this has been the roster

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that has found success for BB. In their inception, they were meant to be the star team from Eastern

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Europe. They never met that success in 2024, 2025. With the four lads, they started winning

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tournaments. Now they get their fourth win as an org. Again, they've been around for

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some time. We expected them to have five, 10, 15 wins potentially. They've always been

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those guys. But now they're looking in some winds, maybe they can kind of snowball it

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into another one or two, but again early days in the success of this roster.

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Yeah, and maybe also early days still for the TI season as it were, as that is coming

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closer and closer. This was nine days of action here for Pigeon Valakia season eight, and

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I do look to hear some cool things we'll remember forever.

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Yeah, we'll remember some good Dota that we had, but we're also going to be remembering

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this valokia for she ever's birthday that is happening today birthday she is

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this picture earlier yeah this is what it's real like you have birthday two

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times a year the hat is real

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floating from her head but exceptional yeah it's a birthday yeah I wouldn't

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I mean, I'm not going to be

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celebrating with anybody else.

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Maybe I went to the men.

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Obviously other than it.

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Honestly, I've had a I've had

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an absolute blast. I've been

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very spoiled today with some

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awesome storylines here with

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with that boom as well. Maybe

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has been phenomenal to watch. I

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really hope for them because

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obviously last time at this

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time they won as well, and then

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they couldn't really reach that

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when it clicked. This is when they started really propelled forward and we'll see them in the top

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three of the next coming events as well. But we'll have to wait and see for that. We hope Aurora

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will bounce back as well because this was a rough one. But thank you so much gentlemen. This was an

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absolute pleasure and a blast and it has been a pleasure also not just from us four but also from

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everyone else that has been working hard in front of the camera and behind the camera. So thank you

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so much everybody tuning in for support in that. We'll see you again another time. I know that this

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This is the last Malachi before TI, before the big season,

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so enjoy your Dota 2 and then enjoy watching and playing.

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And if you're one K-Mamari, you're still gonna shot.

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And with my final words of course.

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And if you're 12.

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And if you're 12.

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Of course, once more, congratulations to Bat Room,

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the champions of PJ Malachi season eight.

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Good night.

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Why do my posts keep quiet?

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Why do my posts keep quiet?

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Why don't they run or go?

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Why don't they run or go?

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I am a man of my soul.

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I am a man of my soul.

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I am a man of my soul.