You
Good morning, everyone.
Man, oh, man, oh, man, oh, man.
Okay.
I'm here.
Yeah, I'm good.
Sorry, it sounded like I was just dying.
I was trying to be a little quiet.
I think you might be silly, sleep.
Also, the fucking house next to us has
like the thinnest walls ever.
VK and I learned
Yeah, we were listening to like seven children and like
Seven like adults or actually no 14 cuz yeah
No, it's probably like four dudes and three wives. I don't know and yeah, they weren't even talking that loud
They were but even when they weren't talking loud. I could hear them
And we're just sitting there just listening to their fucking full conversation and we're not even trying to
the walls here are just so fucking thin. It's crazy like if I open up
there's window that I can like look into their foot it's that would well like we're this far away
if you can't even walk in between the houses. Why not just attach it at that point right?
What do we discuss? Just how close the house is to the other houses here? Crazy
You get some sunlight.
Oh, true.
Makes sense.
Either way.
Good morning.
This might be my last stream in this room.
Potentially.
Excited for the classic plus survey.
Yeah.
So, hold on.
Oh, shit.
Let me have to go grab something.
Once I can hear it.
You
Okay, had to go grab something.
Look at me.
Ooh.
Why don't I run the house like a fucking maniac?
Who was I talking about?
Before I AFKed, you know what I'm here, remember?
Probably not.
The class of plus-driven, yeah, no, my friend made that, Jordy.
That's the survey. I've been telling you guys that has been getting worked on and it's gonna be out at some point
Took them long enough
About the voices in the walls
It's actually voices in the walls. They're probably gonna wake up. I'm surprised y'all don't hear them like my gain on my mic is pretty low, so
Do you think they're used survey sucked ass?
S. Zarrie, you did a Google Doc, it wasn't as fleshed out as it could be. I haven't even looked at the survey yet, by the way.
I feel like I should wait a bit, because I just got here.
And the only people here are like my avid regulars for my string, and they don't play World of Warcraft.
Kind of an interesting time to do it. Zarrie is doing it right now. I'll react to Zarrie. I'll do that.
So I'm gonna have to wait
Let's see I heard by Star Wars. Let's see what this fucker picks
That's gonna be some surveys boilers. Let's see
A grue is along a lot agree on what I
as a star reference, guys, it is.
Whatever.
I just can't believe I'm just doing that.
Anyway, back to the survey.
There we go.
The worst story, you're aware of.
I mean, I don't, you don't even know.
Everything I've heard of is just like funny.
And I, it's not the worst.
Yes, yeah, that's right. Like the reference does make sense, but maybe it's maybe it's a stretch. I don't know. Maybe
The lower of vanilla is great. I don't know if I'm not that player. Yeah, like I know man, Craig's wife, and I know there we go
That's it. Come out earlier, too. Oh
of
more than a lot of the story I know the mob I know the
quest I know the order which to get in how much
ex-p it is
two thousand two
class of about came out of four
but they probably know what the defiance I think I like the defiance because the
villains are still like it makes us you get it from their perspective
I'll go with the defiance.
You don't know the defiance story.
Stormwind just didn't pay them after they worked.
That's really the short summary of it.
And then they started killing people and whatever.
But I like strongly mirror the dark side philosophy that consumed characters like dark
dark mall. We're a mixie. Yeah, I guess it's having been in a mixie of parts
written that and manipulated. I'm sure she did, but I don't, again, I'm not that
guy. I don't have a red shirt on. Okay, so this is the quest that I'm talking
about. It starts, it's at the one before or after Mancrix wife. You have to kill
the, the Quilbores. You get 30 of them and it's called it. What's the survey for?
Spends, this is classic plus survey. They murdered my wife. They've heard this. There's a
video that I'll watch in a bit. You can watch it now if you want to like it. I have not watched it yet.
This is a video promoting the survey. Is it official? I don't think so. But it's about to be.
It's for their blood as far from quenches. The website is classic got less.
Official surveys are iffy. I'll be honest. Is there going to be like some blizzard website?
And it's like those fuckers don't even play the game anymore
This man this is kind of he's Star Wars
It makes a lot of sense it's got to be something of a loose reference. There's no way
What is that email? Oh my gosh
Actually
Come on, Zara, you do the YouTube face
I just can't believe there's this when he people that I made maybe I am an idiot
He's really gonna milk this for awhile. I can't believe there's some more comments
because it's
Dude do a polarity did a pull 80% of people think I'm dumb
If you don't think it is you're not listening
Who gives up? Oh, sorry you are not that guy for lore
Accepted years prior to this. I think he does have a Lord driven audience
With we get all his hardcore wild audience and all that he does he's not that guy. It's okay
All right, bro, you'll shit on any one of your fucking viewers and it won't be one
But they'll beat you in a written test, but maybe
No one else on the comments seems to think so though
Yes, consume my hatred the most important question like 30 minutes ago. I want to check the lot
The player basically directed, he did. I will check them out 30 minutes ago, really?
But maybe Scarlet Monastery dead.
Ooh, should not be like.
Oh, you're right. This is important to shit. Oh, yeah.
This week, guys.
Servers. Yeah, just kidding. Okay, here's some watching the video. I don't want to say yet.
Okay, let's do that. Let's see the beginning.
I see my thunder fury still here.
Yeah, it is cool. I'll just keep showing it up and down.
And I have a, okay. Cool.
base to jump. Take survey. Get started with an intro survey. We'll
ask you some basic demographic questions to better understand who you are.
All right 20 plus rank 1th on Fury. We'll do our start intro. Okay, so I have to
log into discord. So it has to like, that's good. And I'm a human. So you can't
like bought it or any good. Excellent. Love that. And I'll join their discord too. Cool.
to
maybe a hot take. I would almost bet
that 40% of wild players don't even have
this for you.
Cool. Start intro survey if you're
also including retail.
What faction do I normally play? These are
fine for on stream because it's yeah.
I usually play a lion's but I played
whatever is best for red arena this
expansion. Yeah, honestly this is more
my vote. I usually usually ends up
be an alliance, but whatever is best for Ray and Ray and that yeah, it's true. That's how it goes.
Even if you do not just a business, you go wherever everyone else goes and the community decides what's
best and then your friends go to the business and then you follow your friends and then your friends follow you and
then yeah, which race you consider your main human and undead.
Yes, yes.
My answer on that is easy.
If you're main of Rock College and getting image, how old am I?
I can't count.
31.36.
How often do you play while each week?
I mean, definitely more than 40 hours.
It's not that much.
I mean, what is your experience with the various iterations of vanilla classic well?
But no, a 2004, wow, at launch,
old.
Wow.
Only expansions beyond vanilla, 2019 relaunch,
saw the classic Annie, private servers,
these are my favorites.
Literally, every single one of these.
I actually did play SOM.
I did like one day of all of this.
Now, maybe I didn't, I played.
What role do you play?
Maintank, DPS,
only one that's there is I'm just a DPS go there region and a which are the following labels describes you
choose as many hardcore raider leveler auction out skamer oh I can only pick one at a time, Shorty
I'm a leveler PvP player and hardcore
you're a hardcore raider room here I mean you're not a casual you you I mean
he is a pvp but he doesn't do any pvp he's on dream side plus I can't wait
to log in um would you play it or would you pay a box fee for classic
plus I mean I would but I don't think we should have to but I would if it was
like classic plus for 60 bucks or don't play it all like I would but like I
wouldn't want to I only it should be I think it should be for some no
I don't know if I've got some more of the math you said won't play. I'm, uh, dude. I literally pay $6, boss.
Maybe, again, I have money, but I think it should be, I just know how Blizzard works. And I know the reality.
And I know the more money that goes in, the more effort they'll be able to put into it.
Investors will be happier. I just just give them so much money in there.
That's actually a tough one. I think I should be.
I'm like so deep in that.
one. I'm just just replaying it from these graphics. Honestly, one time how do you feel about
class of class that they've changed the game to look for this? Okay, so these are the ones that
like maybe I will vote off stream, right? This is like the demographic ones which are all fine,
but like this one. I think going here forward, I will, you guys can talk amongst yourselves
in chat, I will vote, full cam, vote, and then scroll down so you guys can't see what I'm doing.
Why do it on stream? I mean we I don't want to buy us anyone set the fuck up
I mean literally just get the fuck
I get his morals and that but dude if people if dude
Surely people aren't just gonna follow it. Everything's already the runescape pulls on stream or it's like against the rules
Yeah, they do
no, don't do it on stream. It's almost better to do this off stream in the sense, right? No.
The promotion gets more people to vote. I think it's more helpful.
That is streamer votes it. Do it on stream.
I don't. Some fucking little monkey child is not just going to like.
Terrible streamer in this.
I mean, like, really, what do you think, bro? Cause it's weird.
Maybe I'm swear. I don't know about this.
We already know your answer. I mean, I talk about these things all day.
I've talked about this probably 50 times. I've talked about this like 50 times. I've talked about this like 50 times. Okay, let's get a
Skip
Skip, I'm calling shorty anyway, what we needed like a central hub like like pull all of this this owns
Yeah, I see your two skids on stream because when when skids more they might have like NDA stuff that they care about but like
opinions matter not just yours and that you're not like
skiff on all right all right so we do it on stream and we'll just give
the content pages like yeah those were really really fun and chat will help
skiff skiff and what it looks amazing do nice work and appreciate it definitely
Definitely. All right, peace. All right. All right, glad we got here. Put the asseric of
Don't vote how I do
Vote how you want because the idea is we want as many people's opinions as possible
Right, everyone that's good ones are you for having that thought process, but at the same time
Folks, yeah
All right, Unreal Engine S graphics lighting polygon count one. I don't want that man
to
keep the graphics 2004 okay okay maybe I'm like a three
you don't have to
you don't you don't want on real like for me like I don't
know man I know it's crappy
uh... i've got a take on that graphics a tad to make it look like how
catadass but i don't want it like um...
like this and all so i would say maybe they don't want her to
uh... modern wild character models absolutely not but i've been
which the models i'll do it when i'm seriously wrote i'm gonna end up voting
myself but i'll talk on it
Unreal engine as graphics. I don't actually I don't have a strong take on that. I don't know if I want I love the timeless
look of wow. However, I
Will say when I was playing on
What's that private server that I played recently on?
Fuck, what was it ever been on even tighten was it not tightened forge ascension? Yes
They had retail graphics. And at first, I did not have retail graphics on. I had it
on classic. Everything was classic. Vicky on the other screen. Next to me, did retail
graphics. And as long as the models aren't retail models, you know, the character models
with the fucking Tarrans, that they're dumb, stupid, smile and fucking face, mouth animation.
But the world, I like the retail look, I really do, the water, things like that.
I mean, sure, 2004, I love the way classic looked on all that jazz, but you know,
you go back to an old Nintendo game, you're like, ooh, the polygons.
Right?
And wow, it's a little more timeless.
It's not that bad.
I obviously chose to go 2004 graphics on the, I already forgot the name of the
or ascension. But I did prefer the retail graphics. It's the models that I hated.
God, I hate the carrot. I mean, I honestly, if they brought in retail character models
to classic plus, I wouldn't plan. It's that bad. But the retail graphics are fine. Now,
we start throwing in retail animations and retail graphics. It's a little bit
Because every class is like fucking flashbanging you with the craziest most absurd animations
But the water looks good the trails look good the dirt on the floor the grass looks better
Just things like that I liked my opinion
I don't think that would line up with most most classic people because a lot of classic people with front opinions for classic
Oh my god modern-wow character models oh god
one-one-one-one.
Touch the models that I quit.
Really just set that.
Seriously, bro, don't do that.
The modern-wild character animations.
Seriously, don't do that.
Modern-wild spell effects.
No, thank you.
Modern-wild UI.
No, absolutely not.
I fucking-
I mean, so all of these,
ooh.
Modern-wild UI.
The UI isn't bad.
Am I crazy?
Again, we have to think about if you think of retail, don't think about the crazy
spell animations, don't think just the UI.
You're not going to have five rows of debuffs because you're not playing retail, you're
playing classic.
I kind of like the modern UI, TBH, my opinion, but you go with the one.
I hope they're not like a big surprise.
I've talked about all these hundreds of times on stream,
like no, the needs still look like classic, right?
Like duh.
The animation should, yeah, it's fucking animations.
I don't want to see what you're spinning with dual wheel to the end.
There's many servers that launched some PUP, some PV.
It convinced serverless, I can saw it
with consolidation happening over time.
One mega server, only one mega server.
I'm basically taking the server, I'm not fucking.
I already kind of taken the server, I just watch again.
How would you like Blizzard to handle the server rollout?
Many servers at launch.
Some PVP and some PVE, a couple RP like vanilla
classic launch with, okay?
A condensed server, just or a list like inside,
with consolidation happening over time.
One mega PVP server with faction balance and force
and one mega PVE server with no faction balance enforcement.
Only one mega server that lets players opt in
opt out of PvP, safe zones and towns, warmode, etc. Oh, that is actually such a hard question.
Okay, but who wrote the thing is I wouldn't need like a tech guy. Not a fucking twitch chat tech guy.
Like a, I work on servers for a living tech guy. What is the actual reality of what you can do?
2. I don't know. 3 is the only viable option. 1 megapie would be served with
faction balance and force and 1 megapie. Can you do that with how many I guess you're
going to have layers, right? So here's how things would play out. If you do the top one,
there's probably going to be streamer hate and it's like, this is going to be the no streamer's
out server and all the streamers are going to go over here. I remember people of
audience streamers like to play and to be fair it was bad. Back then, as
it was playing well and as been definitely had a more retarded view or
base than the other streamers. It was bad. Like the invite to as been layer, like
the only reason a line's had population was because of as moves there. It's
crazy how that played out. So that's how that would work. Sure, a condensed
server is like in sod. I don't remember what does it mean? Consolidation
happening over time. Like they add new servers or how did that work? I
played it. But streamer servers were the only ones that lived. That is the
The benediction, no benediction thrived only because you're right.
The streamers servers are actually the only ones that actually maintained a population.
Benediction started getting population because of the faction imbalance that was happening.
Eventually, as we go quit, and all hoard players were on Fairleena.
It was all hoard players.
And then that made everyone that was on alliance, move over to benediction, and then benediction
became the alliance server, and then Faerlina became the Horde server, that's kind
of how it played out.
But yeah, if we talk about the faction and balancing or whatever, like at first, benediction
was slowly dying out, dish, it was rough.
You're right, A3, you actually remember that.
Multiple servers at the beginning, emerging them later, okay, so side had, no, this,
A. Oh, server list. You're fucking right. So a lot of servers and the ones that are dead, they would just merge them slowly, but surely. Man, man, I don't know.
Classic plus is going to be massive. You're going to have, I mean, it could be the worst version of wow to have ever been released.
It will still be unbelievably popular at first. It'll die over time if it's horrible. You hope it's not. But what is the right answer here?
answer here. Honestly, I could see four being awesome, but it depends on how they do it.
Because again, I played on ascension and there was war mode. I loved it. You got 10% bonus
XP. I would kill people in the world. They would bitch and want to say, why did you do that?
Like, because you were a worth honor. Go turn off war mode. But do I lose 10% XP? Yeah,
but you also don't waste time in PVP fights.
Take your poison.
I'm out of your PVPing.
And then there's other that you could do.
There's so many different things you could do with it.
Maybe it wouldn't be as good as a streamer,
but man, when I played a sentient off stream,
the bounty hunter mode was fucking awesome.
Bounty hunter mode was like, you could kill your own faction.
However, when you killed your own faction, you weren't allowed to turn in class for 10 minutes.
So you had to make sure you were doing it while you were doing 20 quests back to back because you're not turning shit in.
And it was just so fun killing everybody.
And obviously, you couldn't target the people, like they were there, but you couldn't attack the people with warm-out off.
But anyone with warm-out on including your own faction, they are not taking your mobs, and it was fucking sick.
How would that play out long-term, though? Not well. This was when the server first launched, so obviously I'm not going to run into a bunch of people higher level than me.
I don't know. I'll think more on it when I take the survey.
I don't, I think multiple realms could make sense, but like it shouldn't be. There's no wrong answer here.
I want to know, I want to know, either that or just a mega server, but I think it can
then server lists his mind by me.
Hi, Chair, thanks for the two on sub row.
How would you feel if classic plus had an element of seasonal servers resetting every couple
of years?
No, don't reset the servers.
I think if you want to do seasonal stuff, you do it like a runescape.
So you have seasonal events that give you rewards for the main game.
So, for example, you could do like a season of discovery that goes for three months.
You play the three months.
It's fun.
And at the end, you get like a cool, like, tab bird or something.
But like, I don't think you should just have more fresh realms.
Like that's the problem we're going to right now.
Um, okay.
So, you moved on already.
How would you feel if Classic Plus had an element of seasonal servers resetting every couple
years?
A couple of years?
Jesus.
Uh, the only way I'd accept a couple, if you're going to do that,
a couple of years, you better be adding a lot of raids.
I mean, servers are going to die within a year.
People are going to get bored, they're going to get time-gated, like, people clear the
content too easily.
If you do keep it classic, it's not, I guess, an axe is kind of hard.
You need a guild from anything that point on, but other stuff is just, it's so easy and
pub worthy.
I don't know if like, I don't know if classic plus
should just be classic with more raids.
And I feel like going the direction of just a season reset
is the right direction,
because there's not a lot of longevity.
You need longevity.
Maybe you could do a prestige system,
but you need to make it worth prestiging.
Prestiging is where I guess you would reset your level
I'm going to start again.
I guess you can add like your road dungeons.
You need to somehow add a lot of longevity to this, a lot.
Maybe when you prestige, you can only play with other prestige people, and you can do
like, what is it?
The endgame, like Peter Rhoix, plus one, and then you get to Max level, you get full gear,
you clear Max, plus one, and then you proceed to again, and then it goes to Max, plus two.
then you clear an X plus 2 and then it resets again and then you go to an X plus 3 and it keeps
going and keeps going. Sure, that's longevity. But would that be fun? And let's assume there's
more raids, you know, a couple more raids here and there, dungeons, etc. Then Nightmare
Nax and Hellenax, yeah, no, like you could add it and I could see it being really autistic
It can maybe fun, but then how do you balance that in a world PvP?
Maybe the PvE gear gets like your Nax weapon, even though you killed Nax on plus 3,
it reverts back in PvP to a basic Nax weapon.
And you all can say a PvP doesn't matter.
It does.
It affects a lot of your inversion to your character and how it affects other people in the
world.
It's like that.
I don't know how you've found, I don't know how you've found, I don't know how you've found things up.
I said this yesterday, and I feel like a lot of people don't like this.
I don't like it either.
But I don't know how to add true extreme longevity to a game without cosmetics,
mattering.
You've got to make people care about cosmetics.
But it's tough and classic because people hate transmoch.
For good reason, I like it when I get blood-fanged shoulders, and it's like,
Fuck yeah, I can't wait to look like I've got blood fake shoulders.
It's the only way you can't have it and you equip it and you are what you wear.
But maybe there's some other cosmetics that are not actually
immersion breaking. You can make people care about.
Maybe
Honestly,
housing would be sick in plastic plus I think that'd be a great place for it.
You get some pretty deep attachment to your character.
And I fucking on crap. Oh, no, but then people wouldn't be in the cities.
Yeah, that would take people out of the cities. You're right.
And this is where you got to like, you got to think, you got to think, you're like,
how would this actually play out? I don't know.
Mounds dude, you add too many mounts and it just, it looks so hideous.
You start adding broodosores, I'd kill myself.
I don't know. I don't know. It's a tough thing.
It's not Garrison bad.
Again, having, I see the benefit because you get some serious attachment to your character,
serious attachment in classic, because you level from one to 60, it takes a long time,
retail, it's like loving experience, you do anything you can't skip it, it's so awful.
It's just a different experience, so I could see how it's being really fun, but I do see the downsides of, again,
people may not be in the cities as much, but again, whatever adds longevity, classic
needs longevity. That's, in my opinion, the biggest fault of classic. The biggest fault
of it, and it's not just my experience, you can look at the numbers themselves as they
gwindle, because the longevity's not there. Custom, hard stone animations. I already
fucking hate the one they gave with the boost, man. People click it and then they cancel
They click it, yapping about nothing and rage-baiting.
Am I rage-baiting?
Are people getting angry?
With everything I've said?
Just add more content and keep it vanilla feel.
OK, but if you do that, the gear
gets fucking convoluted and fucked.
Like, you can't just add raids and then just add gear.
You got to think, how does that actually affect things?
Because you also, you add, I don't know,
really good dagger off of this boss now less people do mc because you don't need
predictions, blade. So it's not just no one's going to run it for fun. Like, for fun,
what gear? So you don't just add raids. You got to think how this is actually affects
that currency. Okay, but now we got to talk about what's the currency and what do you
been the currency on, how does all of that work?
So there's so many, you got to think about how it actually affects the game, how does
it affect everything else?
It's a lot.
I don't know.
And yeah, classic players hate currency systems, because they're done in retail.
So if you're going to do it, me better do them right.
Ah, fuck.
Literally, just this one question is sent me on a rant.
I could talk about it so much more, too.
How do you feel about layers in classic plus?
It's a really tough question.
Like you can't really answer with any of these three.
No, you can't.
I fucking hate layers, but they're necessary.
There's always an opportunity cost, right?
You can't just have layers or no layers.
It's if you have no layers, what's the new tech?
Classic players just want classic though.
Then play classic.
There's no layers, then what's there?
This is classic.
What?
It's plus.
It's got to be more than just for that.
So many people can play at once.
servers, works, sharding on retail works, right? You can't just say no
layers, then have no follow-up though, right? It's a technical
requirement. I would like no layers, but we'd have to
figure out what you can't do this. It's not possible. We've played
without layers before and you end up just running in place and
rubber banding constantly. You never, I mean, if we talk about the
the level of experience, you never get tags.
I'll put in no opinion because...
There's no good answer there.
If you remove layers, you might have to put something in worse.
Here's all this verbally say.
My opinion is on new content updates and server launches.
You need layers from a technical standpoint,
point, but then you get down to no layers as soon as humanly possible, hopefully within one
two months.
Well, you can't write that down, all right.
He's right.
I agree with him there.
Who exists.
I was excited that you get down to one, it's fast as humanly possible.
That's my opinion.
I hope.
Yeah.
Next section, huh?
Next section in the game.
Should the size of RAID's beard is from 40.
Yeah.
Here is where a lot of you might be.
It should.
it welcome the disagreement. I like smaller rates personally reduce it 20 is perfect.
40 is just too much. The way they did it in sawed works reduce required
rates by implementing flex ratings we can bring more players in the challenge days
the same like or flex rating works or just like no don't you flex rating
it's good reviews not good to 20. I like just straight 40 minutes or brutal. I'm
I'm trying to think which one I like the best.
The way I worked and saw it was simple and it worked.
Maybe just that.
I think flex to be fine too.
Like you're getting.
I don't have the hard one.
Gilles have anyone who runs guilds
who will fucking die on the hill that if you do 40, you are insane.
Yeah, it's the only to group you, but you still need to travel to the dungeon.
dungeon. Yeah, I think that's fine. Yes, but only to group you, which I think is in cat.
Well, you already have that here. Like even 20 man raids are in next. Yeah, that's already. Should dungeon
find her, but yes, but only to group you, it's still up to you to travel to the dungeon.
And yeah, yeah, no, we've, I've relived my passion of spamming slash who 40
warrior looking for more SN and copy pasting.
It's got a monastery.
You want to take Scott of monastery?
I've, I've lived that.
I've seen it again.
I'm good.
But traveling to the dungeon, keep that.
Absolutely.
Again.
I should summoning stones outside of dungeons and raids be implemented.
Nova Warlocks should be able to put down Warlock gates, I think. Should there be heroic Dungeons?
Ooh, yes.
Hey, Kara, it made me...
Ooh, fuck, oh my god.
Ah, how would that play out? If you add heroic Dungeons, you basically make the non-heroic gear trash.
It is replaced with heroic gear. Now you need to buff the raid gear to...
be better than the heroic year.
But it does add, I mean fuck, maybe here, heroic.
Oh man.
This is one of those things where it just depends on the overall direction of what they go with the game.
Right, like if they do the,
and it just depends on the overall direction, it's so, it's so much more than just ad heroics.
Yeah, part of version is now the gear has to be upgraded.
If you just ad heroic dungeons and keep the gear the same, I'm not going to do them.
So why add them? So you have to upgrade the gear, I don't know.
Maybe.
I'm going to be a rated PvE in classic plastic.
Middit plus, made, power, prestige levels, level 60 rating, leader boards, etc.
Honestly, probably not it.
Oh my god.
Yes, there should.
That's longevity.
Am I crazy?
Mods, what are you doing to my screen?
We need to our guest.
I mean, the only long-javit,
You have it like the people that really grind this game out, that play it.
Autistically, they're the ones there during the fucking dead hours when everyone else
has quit, they're parsing monkeys.
They parse their speed running.
They're already playing the rate, like they're basically it's rated PPE.
So yeah, making an official thing.
Am I crazy?
Mythic plus, again, you do mythic plus, now we're talking about the gear, and you have
to be really careful, and you gotta think about the game as a whole when you start affecting
one section of gear.
And I'm all for it, but make sure you affect the whole game on a mage tower, I'm down
for solo challenges.
Yeah, absolutely solo challenges to show you're not retarded.
I'm good for it, prestige levels. Again, how is that done? That matters. Level 60 slash rating leader boards. Yes, any form of PVP is your best form of longevity.
That is your best form of it. There's you'll never change my mind. This gets toxic too fast. I think I would maybe like it, but I think for the community, like probably not.
But yeah, probably not.
I think Mage Tower is cool, but not like, let me see you.
I think Mage Tower challenges could be cool.
What is this chat saying?
I think it's a bit of a mythic plus.
Oh man, I'm not even looking at my own chat.
I don't know how hard y'all are disagreeing with me.
I haven't even looked.
I'm speaking just from my opinion, disagree if you want, all good, call me retarded.
What is his audience saying?
Layers are better than you, we're just realist, no layers.
We have the layer discussion.
What is spell batching?
Oh, this is not in his vod.
This is where he currently is at.
Oh, fuck me.
I'll just put a no.
I don't know how to give vod chat, whatever, fuck them.
Challenge stuff, like Mayshower, should it be rated PVP and classic plus?
This is another tough one.
This is a big question.
question because like I want rated I don't think rated arenas belong in plastic plus which I I know there's a lot of push back there, which is fun
I don't think they name works in classic for arenas unless you change drs which you could do
But then you have to change shrinkage, which you could do yeah, you could you should change like yeah change it
Much to make them literally change them
I don't know if I'd want, but rated battlegrounds.
It doesn't affect anything but PvP, and PvP has no longevity.
So add some longevity.
If the only longevity that's there for PvP is the actual classic ranked 14 grind, and that's AFKing in the fucking valley for fucks sake.
Got, I'm so obvious.
I guess overall, I'll put yes then.
Yeah.
You better. I should have been implemented.
Yes, I'll just put I would have said no in 2019. I would have been so hard on no
I would have been dead on the fucking hill
saying no no no I hear we looting I recently played ascension how do we looting love
and it did not make my experience worse at all.
A.O.E.L.T. in Shabini game.
My, yes.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't care about this.
Actually, you know, I'll put no opinion.
That's better.
I'll put no opinion.
I don't care, bro.
Oh, look, Futures.
World Bubs, would you want to see in Classic Plus?
I'm trying my best to not reach out to you.
Still, like, I don't get...
I haven't read my Chinese single-time.
I've been read by us.
What Futures of World Bubs, would you want to see in Classic Plus?
No world box ever, alternative sources, weaker, yeah, no world box, alternative sources and
weaker.
Those are all nice.
Even Chronoboon is too much work, I think, non-dispelable.
Yeah, I think one of these.
Let me think about what world buffs add to the game from my experience.
Well, with Chrono Boone, it's not really a factor anymore, but it was very fun killing people with World Buffs.
That's because I'm a toxic piece of shit. I loved camping between STV and what is it, duskwood and just killing people that are running to go get ZG Buff.
One of my favorite things to do. Chrono Boone ruined that, but also, World Buff's suck because they can make losses and it makes you feel required to get them.
It's not that fun.
It is fun to, you know, my characters and say right now, I'm creating every single auto.
But again, we're talking longevity.
After you've done it once or twice, it's a chore.
And you feel like you're not, eventually, you feel like you're not actually playing your
character when you don't have world buffs, which is not how it should feel.
I think world buffs should be removed altogether.
Not weaker, not more varied, nothing should just be gone altogether.
How would you feel if classic plus trim the capabilities of add-ons and weakwares?
So, I see the benefits of World Bups.
I see more.
That's what's doing in retail.
Give me a second.
Let me wait to see how it plays out in midnight.
I don't know.
Let's see how it plays out first on retail.
Do there?
If classic plus trim the capabilities of add-ons and weakwares depends.
I mean, that's kind of vague, weak or as sure, all for it.
I will say, Vicky, she's not a, you know, die hard wild player.
She is now, she loves wild now, but she could not play the game with the base UI.
She could not do it.
The UI of wild, I think, I grew up with it.
I love it because of that.
I've never really changed it, but anyone new coming to the game, I think it actually
is disgusting to them. And if you want new players coming in, you gotta be able to
fuck with the UI. Edit mode is fine, but she doesn't even like how the health bars look.
Like, it's the, it's kind of ugly for her. And it's not just her, I think it's a new
player's general, just don't like it. So just moving things is not really enough for a lot of
players. Maybe if you forced everybody, maybe they'd get used to it, because a lot of games
just have to deal with it, right? But there's a lot of people that even have
been playing the game for a long time and have changed the way their UI looks
not just moving stuff with edit mode. And taking that away from them would be a
really tough flow. But that's just, you know, your UI. That's not the biggest
deal.
Weakoras and add-ons. I guess you can remove weapons-wing timers. I imagine it
Hey, any hunter weavers want to remove weapon swing timers?
I love that.
Because for me, I feel like I can do a decent job weapon swinging with just my mental brain.
I don't need a fucking bar.
I like having it.
I'm going to have it.
Sure, but I don't need it.
And that's to me as a skill diff.
Get fucked.
And it's just, you know, it's one of those min-max things.
You know, one of the few things you can do to separate,
It's a five button game if you're paled and it's zero buttons one of the few things you can do to separate it
And be better. So yeah, I actually would love it. I
Don't even use a lot of add-ons. I mean, I don't use any fucking room. I the only week horror that I have is a fuck Grayson week
Or when someone types fuck Grayson my character also types fuck Grayson
Don't have anything else. I guess details to see damaged on Atlas loot
root Druid bar because that is probably my most affecting ad on I have. I need to see
how much man I have when I'm in cat and bear form and you're being that on for it,
which is stupid by the way, insane that they haven't added the retail Druid bar into
the base game insane. I would love it. Fuck it. See them go. But again, when it comes to
you I changes in what not you should let that be free ring that's super important to be
um
I just got loaded deadly boss mods for the first time like three days ago
right I could play without Druid bar I wouldn't mind if if no other Druid's had it okay
but I'm good that is that is so big I'm not terrible I have a good mental
recollection of my mana and I wouldn't mind fucking up every now and I
I know I'm better than the other druids out there.
I prefer my add-ons in weak-ores, leave them alone.
I won't play classic plus in their mobility's weak-ores and add-ons.
That is a tough one, bro.
I feel like I don't really care that much.
I'm not that guy. I use pretty close to a stock UI anyway,
so it doesn't bother me, but I think people might rage.
Yeah. A lot of people are very add-on-dependence.
Yeah, a lot of people are very add-on-dependence.
very out on dependence. Just keep, let me keep my out of combat and quality of life
at once. Yeah, I agree with that. Quality of life like a bag at on sure. Out of combat, I
mean, Peggle. I agree with that. I can't wait to see the percentages of this. I want to
see how many people said I won't play classic plus if there's my building these
weekers and then I want to see it I'm so curious. It ain't zero.
Oh yeah yeah I would have come back. Yeah yeah yeah but that's what I'm saying.
That's what that's my point right exactly. That's what I'm saying. So it's like
that's tough. That's really tough. Should mount level requirements be low. Maybe
You haven't even put no opinion here.
Shut up, sorry.
You know your opinion, don't cater to your weak or dependent chat.
Fuck them.
Give your opinion.
Fuck them.
Look at them.
Fuck them.
Look at his eyeballs.
I see him over there.
Come on.
Lock in with your choice.
You fuck.
No, that's so tough.
No, it's not.
No, man.
Powered is pussy.
Come on.
Scroll down.
You're done.
You're fucking plus.
You can disagree with them, but blocking with your opinion, bro.
I think for classic, you just leave it alone.
Fuck you.
Yes, you are reinventing the wheel kind of.
Well, maybe that's a whole wheel, but you're adding some nice threads to it.
It's not a problem in classic.
The contents easy enough to clear with or without the weak aura.
It's not an issue that needs to be solved, so leave it alone.
If it doesn't, I mean, sure.
I can't believe it alone. Why is it an issue on a retail? Well, there's power creep because the content can't be cleared without it
So now it's like okay now I need it. So it's an issue on a retail selling classics. I'll leave it alone. Yeah, hey. I hate that he is saying a correct opinion
He is correct here, but it's so pissing me off. Fireman speed lowered fuck you dude
Keep them the same should not level or requirements be lowered
I actually don't care if they lower the mounts simply to nerf hunters and to nerf
druids and shaman and all of their movement but then again that can make you proud
to be a shaman at 20 and move quickly. The one thing that annoyed me the most I played on
the sentient by the one is the quicker mounting. The fact that you could mount it it's
It's like that in retail, where you mount in one second, and it's not like a five-second
cast.
That is a much bigger problem.
The fact that I would be running at someone in PDP, and they would mount, they get out
of combat for half a second, boom, they're already mounted, they're already gone.
Fucking ridiculous, stupid dump.
If you have the mount at level 30, whatever, but it's the mount cast speed, don't
fuck with that cast speed.
It should take five seconds.
Yes, it should.
Your bank should have it.
Shoot the top one.
I'll put no.
Why shouldn't classic plus have achievements?
What does that take away?
Link.
Oh, link achievement.
You won't get invited to things unless you link an achievement.
Okay, so you think it promotes toxicity and like getting invites to stuff.
I don't think it's going to be that big of an issue.
I don't give a fuck about achievements.
I don't even know what it's sheave.
As soon as I got 2200 in Arena and I got you know hot, hot and hotter
or fucking arena master, et cetera.
I think people are still just going to do gear checks, you know, at the end of the day
is going to come down to gear checks, even with achievements being in the game.
That's what I think it's really going to be.
Opinion should have reps.
I think it adds more than it takes away.
I think you should have it here.
It's level.
achievements are, chefs and fun ones. Again, it adds things to do, longevity, super important,
the most important thing. I haven't done any of the classic rep form. Like I haven't
done like the septor quest line, for example, to make you. The other thing people need to
consider that I have a reconsider. I don't give a fuck about achievements, but I do give a
fuck about the world population. And I know some people care about achievements. It promotes
more people to play for longer. It makes the world matter longer. It's so important. That's
that's where I'm at. I haven't done like the brutal ones. Um, I've done the verbal
agrarotations. Be streamlined and made easier to level. I'm going to put no opinions since my opinion
like, like, I can't I'm not even taking the survey. I'm just fucking reacting to this already.
I don't know. I got here. Oh shit. Please fuck.
I mean, what reputations are there that are super important?
I guess you need to get a tune to Nax, whatever.
For all bog for the pouch off-hand,
scenario and expedition.
I mean, the problem with classic is everything is so boring.
Like, you're just making the boring ask grind short.
Like it's not fun to reputation farm anything.
It's not an enjoyable experience.
Sure, it could be satisfying when it's finally over and done with.
But maybe that's what it means by streamlined.
Not necessarily made easier to level.
What do you even, how do you make reputation farming even fun?
How do you do that?
is grinding low-level mobs, sitting there letting high levels kill it for you if you're
shrinking off of that for a bog pouch, running dungeons for urgent don't wrap that you
don't you don't need any of the gear out of that dungeon anymore, you just need to reputation.
I'm, I drag you and fire lord is just farming those sillethous fox, right, and then just
and see over and over.
Man, maybe add quest lines.
Add some quest lines, maybe.
Some reputation quests you can do.
But I guess sure.
I would just say, yes, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah, I haven't really done them enough to know.
How do you feel about adding Transmog?
Bad.
Should have separated collect and simmered.
Daily rep quests.
I know that sounds cringe,
but it's either that, do your daily rep quest
that give a pretty substantial amount
and then fucking you're done.
And log in the next day and do it, I guess.
You know, if you really care about the rep for that
and they're only good for the reputation that is it.
That's all they're good for.
They're not abusable in any other way.
No, daily's, weekly's, sure.
Weekly's, should've been,
ah, but then we talk about like if I'm leveling a,
I guess you can still farm the rep if you really are a psychopath.
You can still farm the mobs if you really want to get it done that week sure, but the
quest give a lot of fucking eggs.
If you're patient enough, hey, just do your week, please, you'll get there in a couple
weeks.
Or if you need it this week, be your week, please, and keep farming the mobs like an
autistic.
Go for it.
Sure.
That's what I would say.
So yeah, streamline it in that sense.
Whatever.
how do you feel about adding transmoge to classic plus? Transmoge's bad. Transmoge is bad.
It is. It shouldn't be in classic. It absolutely should not. But again, I'm going to reiterate.
You got to have some type of cosmetics that people genuinely care about.
That don't ruin the game. Can't be mounts. Can't be transmoge.
because medics are probably your biggest form of longevity.
I don't know what it is.
Titles, people care about it, tabards?
Yeah, maybe you could add cool tabards,
like a lot of different tabards.
Maybe, sure, pets.
I think pets would get kind of annoying.
I personally can't use them as a stealthy
because they reveal your stealth.
They can't be too gually, but again, make people care about them.
And again, you look like stupid and dumb.
It's long-javity, man.
It gives you something to go far off.
Holy fuck, that guy's got that blue tabbored.
And it's like some autistic or really hard thing to achieve, um, I don't know.
She wouldn't mind that.
The other thing, maybe we'll get to it.
I was gonna talk about professions, but...
I think Saud did that.
I think, like a toy box.
I'm gonna mind that.
I think they did that.
I should classic plots allowed to you to get peas.
I am not a fan of KDKP's personally, that's a hot topic right now.
So a lot of people banned or wanted GDP's gone.
Number one of this Reddit Twitter, whatever those places, they talked about it and they
said it sucks because everyone's buying gold and it's ruining the game and you're
right, gold buying does ruin the game.
Well, the botting makes it even worse, it's the botting in particular.
But again, people targeted GDPs to take a lot of their frustrations on.
So it banned GDPs.
But that didn't stop, bothers the real problem.
So gold buying didn't stop.
People still do GDPs in discord at the end of the day.
It did trim probably most GDPs, but the real problem is now people aren't really making
and all sorts anymore, you can't really pug any of these raids because these geared
tanks in particular and other classes have no fucking reason to go to molten core or
to be well, which makes it harder to have an alt.
It just, it overall made less people raid.
It impacted the game in a very negative way, overall.
And that doesn't sit well with people, it sucks.
People don't pug as much.
It's harder to get tanks, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't know if GDP's need to be there for classic plus though.
The game is hype enough.
It's more of an alt affecting thing.
Should be told.
I think it affects alt's more than anything.
I like having GDP's, but I don't like that when GDP's are in the game.
They completely take over.
So it's either a complete GDP takeover or you take it away.
And this doesn't even affect me by the way, I'm a streamer.
I just care about the game itself because of other people care about the game, the game
stays alive.
I don't know.
GDP is the most fair loot system in a while, plain and simple.
Not really, oh, there is a level of fairness to it.
the tanks get a bonus cut, the healers get a bonus cut, but people are just swiping
in real life and life isn't fair.
And this is an escape from that.
I'm supposed to be, but what's the fix?
I don't know.
If you roll, you lose, if you suck.
You just roll, you lose.
If, yeah, or again, you can pug these things, but the issue now with pugs, the only way you
I don't know if y'all have noticed those that actually play the game.
The reason why and not just streamers, all these pugs have everything hard reserved,
is because the people that are going to carry your pugs, the tanks and your fucking
healers, that the only reason you're going to kill that boss, they need a reason to go.
They need a reason, they're not going otherwise.
It's not there to help you, that's the issue.
So again, fucking, this is reserve, that's reserve,
this is reserve, all the best loot is reserve,
you're not going otherwise.
And you're not clearing otherwise.
GDP's now they're making gold, man.
And you can hate how it works and how people are,
but that's how it is.
I don't know to say, what if you could earn DKP
as an account bound currency to use on gear, okay?
And account bound currency DKP.
So what are you doing for the world?
What is earning UDKP?
That is giving you this currency
that should be used on this random raid
where everyone in the disco calls like,
wow, because my love DKP, he really helped me out.
Yeah, he was a dagger.
I don't know, like, dungeons raids.
Wow, that guy's ran strath with four other people a thousand times, too.
Fuck, yeah, you can have this dagger in this raid with none of the four people you
did that dungeon with.
No, I don't know how that would work.
DKP, raid boss kills.
There's no perfect system, man.
I'm on no opinion because I don't know, it's, I don't know what the right answer is.
I'm going to promote to her.
I gotta remember all my shit when I get there.
And also is just whoever buys more gold gets the item.
I think it's true.
And I'm saying this a streamer when I have a lot of gold, too.
I think it's just toxic.
Should the level cap be ever increased to 60?
No, never.
Never, never.
I don't think so.
Yeah, the level cap to 60.
I'm going to agree with that.
Should classic plus have new zones?
No, keep the original zones and expand on them.
I think I lose for the first long, long, long, long, long time.
original zones and expand on them like five plus years from now ten years from now if you want to add an island's and stuff like
You kind of have to sure okay long time. I was going to say don't lock them don't lock it in like five years from now adding an island is fine
To be to be done in Azeroth
If yes, where an Azeroth or beyond I would say less than five years
Yeah, only the main to come home. How many continents do they have to work with high jow?
I mean, they're a little limited on that considering they've already done that in TBC-ish with the raid, so they kind of have to keep it lower accurate-ish
Azhara, I guess they could add some stuff to Azhara
Gilnayas, again, they kind of have to go with what Retail already did. Olden, again, keep it kind of there a bit
Timbermahold, Grimbatol, I mean, again, they've already done it in the later expansions
You gotta keep it kind of in line-ish, you know?
Do they?
Yeah, I think they should, they do.
My chat, I'm sure, and a lot of classic purists
that don't even play the future expenses, okay?
But you should kind of keep it somewhat in line.
It can be different, like you can add a little heel out there.
You can add a little village that maybe gets torn down
at some point in wrath, whatever.
You know, it got torn down, it didn't succeed, whatever it failed.
You can definitely do it, but it's already kind of in there a bit.
It takes away from it a bit.
I don't want them adding outlands.
I don't need them adding Northland, but you can add some islands, like, maybe the island
And where you turn in your ZG tokens would not be like a full one island.
Dude that's basically translogue.
If you start allowing weapon in chance everyone's gonna have like this icy weapon
glowing piece of shit.
I guess we already have Crusader floating around, it's kind of crazy.
I just don't want it to turn retaily.
It's a really scary door to open any type of cosmetic.
I would need some type of cosmetic.
Tabards are fine, they're not too annoying,
but it's like, let's give some mounts.
You had a broodousore.
You're not going to be able to click the fucking mailbox.
They're going to be standing on top of that ugly shit.
You're going to have a thousand different variations.
I mean, I already use it myself.
But I already don't like the mount that you got from the boosted pay bullshit.
And you start adding, again,
below we ask weapon transmox if they're a lot it can get really fucking annoying
costumes
i mean every talking like they don't do anything
um...
in combat like they disable in combat
even then i don't know
chairs
in chance
i'm for it but i'd have to see what those are
i don't like to hear just in chance because i think of retail i think of fucking
among us, like amplified with icy, and it's absurd.
And anyone else wrong?
You know what? Here's the thing. Imagine, here's, here's the kind of things I would love to see.
I'd like to see, again, where it's going to copy Runescape. Imagine a fish barrel.
Or imagine, like, I don't know, a lunchbox, which can store all of your food.
Yeah, it actually is a benefit. It clears inventory.
it's a bag within a bag. You can put all your food consumables in the thing. Imagine a
potion belt to bag within a bag that has all your potions. Imagine infinite noggin fogger.
You have to earn infinite noggin foggers, something like that. I would fucking farm that should
instantly. Infinite deviate. You have to act. These are some time consuming things. You got
to go and earn. Things of that sense. Not just a fishing barrel, I'm trying to think
of other professions that just fucking bag space. And there should be a lot of gambling
in it. Maybe every single time you fish, you have a chance to get a fishing barrel.
Wow, and itself is a giant, constant slot machine. Is an epic going to drop? So, yeah,
expand on it. Every mob you kill should be like will I get lucky?
Anyway, I need one as worth and any other plan.
Oh, if yet, oh, no, because if yes, where it has rather beyond, we will
kill with these zones to be.
And I've mentioned this fine. No, so I don't want planet dimensions.
No one wants. I guess anyone has their own. Like islands, I guess, are fun.
But he didn't hate us, but not for a while, like no, but when they do it, this one should
you come to me.
If I'm focusing on settling, yes, of course, you're leveling me, sped up, no, the leveling
pace is great.
Should there be more class specific quests, yes, but only to unlock abilities and spills
like we're like demons or priest ratios, I just think yes, in general, they're fun.
So there's been more up at quest lines, I've locked rock to large, I'll totally wish
to the following vistas, write them, tell you, like you see, changes to classic plus
old raids, that's a good question. So the old raids, oh, what on? Should there be more
or class specific quests.
Oh my god, what does this guy want?
Oh totally.
We should have the following vests described as how you like to see changes to classic plus old rids.
I got distracted. Where was I at?
Plasps is a request. I'm trying to think like...
Hmmmm. Yeah.
Like Rock to Lars pretty cool.
Do any classes have really fun. I guess priest has been it dude.
Oh.
All right, should there be more classification requests?
A priest benediction and rock to lar.
Are there any other ones?
Like in Legion, I don't remember, yeah, warlock pets.
Okay, yeah, druid forms warlock pets, but I'm thinking like, oh, there's Lydia,
should there be more epic quest lines?
Okay, so there's Quest, class specific quest, and then there's epic quest lines.
I guess, I guess, yeah, class Pacific Quest, why not?
Yeah, I don't, why not, whatever.
They should be more like the whirlwind acts, though.
Where the beginning of the quest is for berserker stance,
and then you've got this optional shit
for a crazy, cool weapon while leveling.
But the problem with whirlwind acts
is it kind of, again, makes all the other weapons pointless,
Pointless, which does kind of take away from the world. You have to think about what it takes away and
If you do something like that
For every class now you're gonna have less people doing dungeons
Depends on their rewards be really particular about what the rewards are and
Maybe give
Oh man, I was going to say like give Feral Druids a weapon that gives a tag power when
they're in cat and bear form, because there are none until fucking a cube, but that would
literally be your best all the way to 60.
And now you've taken away Feral Druids gear dopamine or 40 levels as soon as you can
get it in a level 20.
That's not ideal.
Well, then again, they shall also just change Feral Druid weapons and make them at a tag
power in general.
Fair else don't get geared up. I mean, remove pummelor from the game and buff them by giving the AP. It's stupid.
Yeah, just be smart about what the rewards are. Don't just add shit.
Think about how it actually affects.
I'll totally everything else.
Uh, which of the falling risks describes how you'd like to see change? Yeah, definitely.
I think it was crazy speeding through this, man. Take your time. What else do we have to do?
Jesus Christ.
Which of the falling best describes how you'd like to see changes in classic plus to old rates?
Probably one of the biggest questions.
Let me hear what Zara uses.
That's a good question.
So the old range's own for what they are.
Do you want multicore to have more mechanics or
Nacks to have extra mechanics?
Kind of like sod.
Let me think about that one.
Hmm.
Yeah, this is going to be a pretty polarized question.
question and difficult mechanic similar to sod.
There's also new bosses and areas within them.
Tune them as needed for any change from player power but keep the
spirit of the original rate.
Maybe I like this answer.
That's kind of nice.
No way he moves.
I'm sure we're this answer.
I like I don't know.
No way he moves on.
Should there be a new Wow.
Okay.
Well,
We're already going to go down to 20 men's.
I think most people, not all, but let's assume we go down to 20 man raids, a little
more manageable, a little more manageable, less retards, or 25 men, point is less than 40,
right?
So the mechanics I think need to be a little harder.
And there's got to be some change.
You can do flex rating, but flex rating is always going to get abused in some shape
or form. And that's annoying. And I kind of like the raid being the same difficulty across
the board for everybody. Maybe it's not the biggest deal, but Flex is never really balanced.
There's always the easiest way to do it. And I don't like that. That's what my one thing with
Flex writing being annoying. Tune them as needed for any change and player power, but keep the
the spirit of the original raid, add more complex and difficult mechanics to
what is using the master do all the above plus add new bosses and arena or
areas within them.
Trying to think. I remember someone making an argument or basically like yeah I want
rates to be harder, but at the same time, less people rate, less people care as soon
as you make them hard. You can always make them harder with your own person, like you can
speed run it, right? Things like that. So you can always make them a harder challenge.
But I'm definitely a two or three angle. Big's weirdy. Yes. Yeah. Hopefully that we start
talking about balancing. You're right. Add more complex, less difficult
mechanics, similar to season of mastery, so she isn't a discovery for a
fresh challenge. How did people feel about sod when it came to
rating? I never did max level. I stopped playing it like level 40. There's a
I kind of checked out I don't remember how populated sod was either
Like was it really popular? A lot of people on Reddit and whatever they talk highly of it
But where are the actual numbers anyone know?
So I died in phase three phase three was level 50 right? Maybe no 40
Who can know apart from Blizzard? Are there no stats? Oh, here we go.
Hey, there's someone linked something ironforged.pro slash population slash
a side overall.
Okey, dokey.
Hmm, look how bad it got at one point. Sheez.
I don't know how accurate this is. This is just linked from chat, but I mean why?
It's not classic. Sure, I'm just, but I'm talking about raid difficulty because really
sod was just raiding. There was no PvP. All you do is you log in and you went to raid.
So this is kind of what it was. So I PvP was so stupid. I made PvP. Bro, you're trolling.
There was PvP. It was it taken seriously to even the slightest degree.
Because I remember watching Zico be unkillable as a fucking shaman. I remember balanced
drew his one-shotting people with star surge. No, but most people don't do PvP seriously in any version
of well. So that is a fair point. But I think mostly, I would do everyone on this fucking
list here, all these people, they're they're logging on for raid. Maybe they liked going
to raid because they got gear to help them one shop people randomly out in the world. Right?
And I get that. That's honestly my favorite thing about fucking rating is using the gear you
get for PVP stupidity and just fucking around. But the real meat of their gameplay was
the rating. I don't know, this isn't a lot of players. This really isn't a lot at the end
of the day. I do think the raids being easier is better for the game overall. That's
my point I'm trying to get at. It's a hundred k. I don't think that's that much in terms
of World of Warcraft. Is it a hundred k player stable? Is this stable? Let me look at this again.
Oh, I guess I thought it was combined. U.S. I thought it was combining both already. Wow, 220,000 plus.
at the fucking peak. Oh my god. Oh it's oh I can check both. Oh hell yeah. I thought
that was just EU doubling and I. Yeah pretty close to yeah well over 50k. All right
it's a lot. Okay well personally I'm like tune them as needed but I would say add some
Maybe not the extent of sod, somewhere in between two and three,
but there's no in between,
add some complexities, but don't reach a difficulty of sod.
That's my opinion.
Yeah, hey, give your own opinions.
You guys can go take the survey yourself, and you should.
If you guys are passionate enough to be yelling at me in my twitch chat,
you should go take that survey.
Apps are fucking lootly.
and
yes, but only stuff that already exists, I care and criminal will start there.
Yes, for post-race and already exists in the world plus career.
I will link it.
I haven't even watched the fucking video, oh my god.
I forgot Jordy made a video promoting this whole thing.
And I haven't watched it yet.
I just started reacting because I...
Oh shit, I'm so dumb.
What a terrible order I've gone in.
Here you go.
Great some new interesting content.
Yeah, like one of these two.
Oh, I missed that. Should there be new rates? Yes, but only something that already is the original Azeroth
already exists. I care and criminal will start there
Yes, for post-rate that already exists and the world plus creates some new interesting content. Yeah, yes, absolutely. Okay. Yeah, that's an easy one, duh
Should classic plus have new playable races and have so which are the following kind of old people
Oh
Okay, hot take yes
They need to add something like blood-ups to hoard.
I know that's a BC thing, but hoard need some type of sexy race.
It's important. It's more important than a lot of people like to admit.
For faction balance, I'm not even fucking trolling. I actually think it's so important.
Just that alone, add one race, just fucking. That's it. Moving on.
I think play a new playable racist is fine, but it doesn't need it on launch. I don't even play. I'm a druid. I have to play night elf or cow.
It gets coming from me. Please.
Should a classic plus of new classes? No.
Should new race class combos be added? Yes.
But only stuff that within the lower makes sense. Yeah.
Should the hoard and have pounds the alliance of classes?
And you know, I'm going to get a little, it's honestly what sparked me thinking about
this was only things.
When I had was forcing people to go hoard an alliance, guys, I'm not even trying
to be sexist, the amount of girls that were so upset that they got put on hoard was
insane.
It was, it was up there.
Some dudes, even, they just, it's just ugly.
It's funny. I love orcs or funny to me, but it's important guys. It's important telling you
Most of the girls, but yeah
And I get it
I'm a dude. I don't play a word because all the races suck. They're ugly man. They are and again to a lot of people that's the charm
But you can it's in play ork, but you've got to have the belts and you can get racist, you know like stupid thug and ugly blood and all you're dumb
to the spit on you whatever get racist that's fine
but you got to have them there let people play them know that are you exist in
as a rough
i think play a new playable racist is fine but it doesn't need it on launch
it could be down the road should pass it plus a new classes no
should new race
uh... yeah no new classes
Thomas be added. Yes. New race class combos.
Hmm. Human hunters lead aboard like a Nessa for AIDS, where speed matters and
death makes you lose pion. So you've got something for the grinders for every race.
I agree. So at skins like a Nessa that just change your skin, Google drone
with through a skin, for example. Okay, maybe maybe a second
horn. Orc priests do orc priests make sense in lore? I don't know,
blood elf druids. I don't know if little druids make sense. Didn't they like
fucking beyond kill the environment? Like the worst, actually, troll warlock? Yeah,
That troll warlock could make sense.
troll druids.
Who else could be druid on alliance?
Besides night elves.
I mean really, dwarf, human, I guess human druid, you know?
Yeah, human druid could work.
No, I'm druid.
Who'll fucking, you don't even have bear form.
It's just like badger form.
Oh, yeah, they should. Yeah, you should definitely keep it more accurate. I agree with that only stuff that within the lower makes sense. Yeah, should the hoard and have palency line trauma. I think they yes
Yes, they should
I know this is a big one that is it back on is it?
No, TBC's kind of nice. It makes balance in easy. Where's the pushback fully get why you would say no, though?
I totally gave you a saying no, no, I argue with them to the fucking oblivion.
That's a tough one.
In 2026, you cannot have one faction having an entire class than the other, because one
class will always be better, and it will promote faction imbalance.
People are min-maxors, they're sweaty, it feels gross and on-have-it, like, you want
to have competitive, you got to add PvP.
The PVE is competitive in forms of PVP like, hey, we speed around this when now you can only speed around our one faction because one faction will reign supreme.
That's done. That's stupid. Have it on both.
Split.
Should classes be reworked, I like new baseline abilities, spells, class for, class for real combos.
Let me read the options here.
No, vanilla classes have distinct class fantasies that make things play through unique.
Some quality of live ads, for example,
totemic recall, projection,
Warlock summoning gate,
combo point persistence, ooh,
combo point persistence is fun.
However, that's not a quality of life.
That is actually a complete game changer compared to the other two,
even total of the total of Greek calls,
more is very important.
It'll be nice, but I don't think fix what I'm broke.
Some new spells that modernize ability rotations, for example, rep-paladin, just don't
completely change them.
Yes, go crazy with it, no opinion.
Okay, definitely not go crazy with it.
That's scratched off instantly.
Some new spells, I mean, that's so vague.
I'm going to give my opinion, y'all tell me where I should put my answer here.
I don't think they should add new spells.
I think they should adjust spells.
Again, maybe repout and can have one button
because they don't have any, it's ridiculous.
They should change spells.
They should buff them, they should nerf them,
they should slightly change how they work.
Again, the one fucking example I always go to
is I think hibernate, maybe should be able
to be castable on humanoids.
like in Rayland caverns, which, oh my god, it's busted, it's so stupid.
Like, druids have cyclone in TVC. They're not going to have cyclone, they've
hibernate, and it breaks on damage. So in PVP, that'd be crazy. But in PVE, druids now
have a form of CC. You should be able to root people inside, travel form of what
not I would like to see being working inside. It's kind of annoying that it doesn't.
These are drooled changes, rogued or repout and changes.
I don't know, maybe add like, again, maybe crusaders strike.
Shaman's, again, you got to buff them somehow,
give them dual wield.
Oh, no, no, maybe Shaman stayed too hinder, kind of their classic thing.
But you got to somehow make them viable by buffing something.
I just don't know what.
You can't make one if you're a stronger,
because it's already too much of a slob machine.
So how do you make them viable DPS without making them too much of a slot machine?
Unless of a slot machine, more consistent.
Sure, they are a slot machine.
That's the class.
They got to add consistency.
What do you do?
She got to add another button, I think, right?
Shaman needs mana.
That's not why their DPS is bad.
Buff shocks, that promotes their burst that's already a little too strong.
There's just too bursty, give it real stat scaling.
Maybe trying to like they they already may lay so hard.
I don't again, I don't it's a tough one, but now you kind of understand where I'm at.
So let's move on, where do you think I vote on this?
One, two, three, four, five, going top bottom.
Manna is the issue. Is manna the issue with Shaman damage any enhancements in classic?
They are with three. Yes, okay. I thought it was because like four is based.
Four is sod and sod died. It's too much. It turned into wrath of the lich king.
Like no, your rotations are supposed to be a joke. I mean, they really are. That's kind of a
a lot of drive to classic is you min max this joke of rotation you're getting your stupid
tubers or whatever from the night off starting zone for plus one damage like major's really
dude just hit frostball over and over and again I would give him something else maybe our
came blast and then our came barrage every four arcane blasts one one one one one two one one
One, two, cinema.
That's the craziest it should be.
That's what my place is rolls for loot.
Fishing requires group only GDPs.
World Buffs necessary at level one.
Paggle scores for a place in loot.
happy face slash sat face instead of numerical, negative social credit equals no loot
in raids, weapons have durability and break, all classes of one button rotations, classic
plus cinema.
I know you're joking, but I have considered making all loot rolls in only things are
or based off of Peggle scores.
I thought about it getting an add on.
You have to play it.
It'll be really annoying while leveling
because you just want to roll off the gear
that doesn't really matter,
but if you want to need a, it's based off Peggle.
And dude, people are gonna be practicing Peggle so hard.
I gotta get so good at it.
Maybe something else, something that's a little more,
I don't know, there's gotta be something else you can do.
that's so funny terrible idea serial let's do it
all right moving on
i think i'm a three angle
some new spells that modernize ability rotations like rep palies just don't completely change them
yeah so so i've been crazy with it shouldn't be that
um the classes in vanilla keep them the same as like no they need something new i'd say this one
they give you just
don't change classic dude all right let's have 39 theory warriors again
off in Classic.
Raid buff should cost less mana.
Okay, so time on Raid buffs.
Raid buffs should no longer require regions.
Raid buffs should be single cast Raid wide.
Hmm.
I'm thinking about how things would play out.
Do we want to make it to our raid buffs don't cause regions anymore?
Reggents.
Regents.
Raid buffs should not cost less or less, man.
Or I guess you can do the AOE gift for the wild can cost a little bit less.
Yeah.
It should cost.
For all new livans, three just have two tiers.
No.
They die, they die.
Not so much get funny punishments if they die.
Should have talked about only things.
I'm not on that topic right now.
It's hard, cool.
They only pocket.
Appreciate it.
Not doing the only things right now.
Appreciate it though.
Uh,
Ray buff.
So if the, yeah, Ray buffs can cost less men,
but only get to the wild.
Do not make mark of the wild.
Cost less for those of you to get to the wild is the
Ray buff.
Mark of the wild is a single buff.
Give the wild should cost more.
more maybe only two times as much. I don't know what it is right now, but
reason being is, you know, it does a fact PvP. Re-buffing yourself and protecting
inner-vade and re-buffing is important. Should they no longer require regions?
Oh, I'm hacking hands was are you right now?
This is one of those things where I feel like if I rated for a much longer time,
And kind of like, A, we loot, I'm over not having A, we loot.
Like, I've seen it cool, whatever, give me A, we loot back.
I feel like the regents is, I'm still in the fucking mode
of, you know, you should have regents for stuff.
But I feel like that's gonna go away really quick.
I do.
If I just rated more, but I haven't really rated much.
The raid buff should be single cast, entire raid.
It's probably in the same boat as the regions.
Reagents.
So I'm going to end three.
Like, I feel like I'm going to pivot right now. I'm not there.
But I feel, again, I think I'm going to pivot.
I see it happening.
Raid buff should be combined.
So multiple classes can buff different things.
He'd love to be combined.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not for fuck that.
One, two and three.
Ray Buff should not be combined.
No, there's uniqueness to bringing a druid.
You want Mark of the Wild.
You need to bring a priest.
It promotes bringing another class.
It's super important.
Should I don't require reagents?
Ray Buff should be a solution.
He's going to agree with me.
Yeah.
He's going to tell us, Paxby, reword.
Some up and only a light touch.
I agree somewhat, but a light touch, Warlock and Druids, for example, like I'd like to see
right now they did it in TBC, but in sex form, for example, was in restoration in classic.
That's not a thing.
Even in TBC, Omen of Clarity only procs off of melee attacks.
Now it's great for Feral, but it should also proc for casts like a balanced ruin.
And then you get into the Warlock Classic Tree, and it's just even more fucking retarded.
So yeah, some slight changes here and there, but I'm not adding new stuff.
We're just shifting some things around and changing some things slightly.
So yeah, somewhat.
I don't want complete reworks.
Should new talents be expanded for classics, for classes like Dardy and Shrew at or Tank
And I actually wouldn't mind those two.
Tank Shaman and Guardian sure would kind of make sense, but...
Mmmmm.
Not Guardian Druid.
Uh, it's really nice fairles are fun to bring because they can still do really good damage while also being able to off-tank.
Um, so not Guardian Druid. Fuck that. We don't need four specs.
Tank Shaman.
I mean you're basically adding a new class.
If I remember it again, Ziko and Saad, I watched him be literally an unkillable demon
to like 12 people because of how busted tank shaman wasn't pvp.
It was fucking absurd.
Then again, Saad wasn't just class difference, like the gear was fucked, everything was
fucked.
But more tanks in general could be nice.
I don't know, it's tough.
how much an off-tank?
I mean, how do you make
shamans tankable or tanky?
I guess maybe you could,
they have like what,
some type of earth shield,
not earth shield,
fucking stone shield,
rock shield or something
that they put on,
that increases threat,
gives them some,
increases armor value of items,
so male is then, you know,
workable and then they throw a sword in board
images tank. Right? Yeah, okay. I would I would say you don't need to add a tank
shaman spec. You just need to add a stone shield spell where they kind of like how
paledance but on righteous fury. And that increases the shaman's arm. Oh, but it'll be so
abuse in PvP. It'd be so abused.
I know y'all don't care about PPP, but it matters.
Something like Ferals, where you bring in enhancement, and their spectrum enhancement,
but they can often take if they need to, if they're on a sword and board, just put it deep
in the talent tree, but then they have to speck it.
I kind of like that.
a DPS can still just go bare form and bang. I guess maybe you just reduced the damage they
deal in the stone form as well. So it's not bad abuse. It could be fun to like pre stone
shield a kidney as like a shaman. Kind of like how drew it's pre bare form a kidney, things
like that. It'd be fun. Either way, no guardian drew it. I don't want like new specs
for every class.
Yes, but limited to stuff that makes sense.
Yeah, that's fine.
But I don't want fully new stuff.
They're like everywhere.
Should every spec be competitive
in both PvE and PvP?
Yes.
Non-most cases, but vanilla hybrid classes
don't overwhelm PvE, yes, it healing those classes.
It's a bit of love.
No, not every spec needs to be perfectly
rated such PvE viable, overturning for PvE balance
could break PvP in vice versa.
This is a hot take, but no.
Okay.
Hmm.
Not every spec needs to be perfectly read.
Now, the wording of these things are different, right?
Should every spec, like, if you play a balance drew it right now,
or if you played a balance drew it in classic, not TBC,
TVC, you need to bring a balance sheet, but right now in classic, if you play a balanced
fluid, good luck finding a raid spot.
You play an enhancement shaman.
You literally cannot find a raid spot unless you're a streamer or you know people.
You're just not getting in.
It's not happening.
That's a problem.
Now you read these and it's like, no, no, no, I don't even speak needs to be like competitive.
Sure, enhancements shaman doesn't need to be exact DPS is everybody else.
But you should be able to get raid spots and the first thing people should look at is not your spec and your class, but your gear.
Hey, this guy is going to do no damage because his gear is bad.
That's really the problem.
Oh, this guy's enhancement. He's not going to do anything. He's got like the best gear, but he's an answer. What a joke.
Not invited. That shouldn't be the fucking thing.
But the wording of this is kind of, not in most cases, but vanilla hybrid classes don't
perform well in PBE outside of healing, yeah, those classes could use a bit of love, yeah,
I mean, again, shamans just have to heal.
Druids, you got to play Resto.
I guess you can play Ferrell, but you got to be like an artist and you can only bring one
and it's still debated as to whether or not you should bring one.
I mean, priests just have to heal, I mean, you don't even bring shadow, the only, you bring a priest that specs into shadow just above the wallock damage, and then the rest of your talent points go into healing. You're just a sub-par healer. You don't even bother doing damage.
Uh...
Rogue, yeah, you know what, I think I might be a two-angle.
Rogue don't need a lot of change. Ah fuck, but like, wouldn't it be fun to play mutilate and PvE?
Like, what's the downside of giving assassination roaks mutilate?
Obviously, two in it to where it's not, you know, in same damage. You don't use backstab anymore.
You just replace backstab with mutilate.
Whatever.
You need an venom.
The classic version doesn't need an venom.
Balance it to where, you know, you don't.
Warriors, arms should be able to, I don't know how you balance arms,
warriors to do competitive damage, like in line with fury without breaking them
them PvP. Slam with no cast will slam that again your break. They're already so
shrong PvP. Again, it's really it is a tough balance thing so I don't know.
I don't know. It's a tough one. I feel like one. I'm either a two or one. I'm not a
three. Like with three it's that's I actually think that's fucking retort. I want to
hear his cake. I'm I want to hear him just five three. Like once you try to balance
every spec you know that means every class as a we every class has mobility because
you need it for dungeons you need it for movement you need it like no. Sure. Okay,
maybe not one I agree. Maybe just to be the a we can't. If you're a warrior maybe you
suck at tooling, but you top the meters, so pick your class. I think I think it's
fine to have individual classes that are bad at things and good at things. Okay, but
we have classes that are bad and specs that are bad at everything that you cannot
play them. I feel pretty strongly. That's crazy. Drew would take. I mean, dude, all
All the hybrid takes, bro, you have to, I mean, I guess combat, I think you can play combat
daggers and PPE, sure.
But arms warriors, I guess his take is your favorite good in PvP or PvE, pick your
speck on that.
Who the fuck's playing a prop warrior, it's not even a thing, it's just a little fucky
wucky, um, mages, like you, you know, I would settle for two, but I'm like a 2.5.
I think that's crazy. Should dual specs be implemented. Yes, should do
This guy is a classic purest, but he just said that I can't believe it
What yeah, no shit dual specs being a perfection be added. Yes
They're not to be good
Who
I know a sentient had woodcutting, like there were random trees scattered out.
They were kind of rare, kind of about as rare as you find, like, I don't know, mining nodes.
But the profession didn't do a damn thing.
Yes.
Should professions be up to that?
Yeah.
I mean, relevance.
Yes.
I agree.
You could do so much with professions.
With fishing, you could go crazy with it.
You could make fishing actually be a really cool thing.
You could make a really cool thing and they should. They really should. First aid
You can make a really cool thing too. You could add to it
Robot we got a capture
Holy fuck
Damn, that's all this this goes on and on play the intro survey
Intro by the way shut the fuck up
I didn't reach out that whole time,
because I didn't want you guys to do that.
You did reach out, you blinds, sac a shit.
I mean, I've talked about every single one of those questions
at depth already.
Sorry, I'm going to surprise.
All right, I need, I do.
I'm just hate watching, sorry.
I'm going to take the survey myself.
But first, let me watch the 10 minute video
that I should have fucking started with,
because I'm dumb as hell.
Remember that feeling when you first started playing
World of Warcraft, you'd race home from school,
throw your backpack on your back.
I haven't had one, it's the fucking video game.
And...
Cinema.
Now, regardless of when you started playing, we've all had that feeling of not knowing
what's over that mountain, what challenges next, what piece of gear may be the next big upgrade
that some random boss and a dungeon just so happened to drop. The mystery of what was out there
kept you firmly locked in, wondering what was next. And I think, or hope so at least, that
classic plus can give us that feeling back.
I can talk about classic plus every day
the next two years I can do it.
Say it's horrible, Jeff. I may or
don't go. I'm sure we got Chinese.
So you're real, you're real, you're the
habitions. I love classic and I want the best
version of classic loud, the available for the
people that want to play it for.
I want there to be a resource for blizzard to be like,
okay, look, maybe a ton of people want this or a ton of
people don't. Hey guys, I'm Jordy and classic plus.
As of this video's release, hasn't officially been announced
yet, but thankfully, it does look like we're gonna get it. Blizzard has dropped hint
after hint after hint that they're working on something big with the community
frothing at the mouth. I agree with everything you say.
So you boss you guys, the movement to the chat, she's at big hook,
massive, but powerful, I didn't give a punch to my-
Fuck fuck fuck. I guess we all want it, but the question I kept running into as I started thinking about
of the series about class plus what exactly is class plus?
No, really, I'm asking you, for watching this video,
what is class plus to you?
Okay, the battery answer because we'll come back to you
in a sec, but since this is my YouTube video,
stay with me.
When I started asking myself that question,
I ended up having many, many conversations
with a very good friend of mine, only.
Hey, I'm only.
I created the Hardcore All Stars tournament where Blizzard announced official Hardcore servers.
Yeah, I just want to own the server.
That's what I wanted to do.
What?
No!
I've gotten Jordy way back in the unofficial hardware while when he killed my priest in Strattie D.
Thank you.
Shackle the Garwell, it gets in.
Yeah, I won.
Who is that rat?
Jesus.
I'm really in your health.
Hey, don't shoot.
I'm your.
Look, I still argue that wasn't my fault.
So only I kept talking about what we want to see in class plus.
But we kept on being into a few issues.
First, why should anyone care what one person thinks class plus should be?
Sure.
For you got a bunch of ideas.
We've got our non-negotiables and dreams for what this game could be, but we're not
alone in there.
I wanted to be able to flesh out our ideas because talking about things and thinking
about things is a good way to figure out what we actually want.
If they ever do plastic plus, I would not have to see them do it like in the spirit of
plastic.
You know what I would like to see in plastic plus?
Plastic plus.
I haven't been on here yet.
Plus.
There's no discussion about plastic plus.
There is, but like there's no real hub.
And soda is right to my name too.
We'll take that.
The RoonScape has this great polling system.
Jagax asks the community if they
look bad, I did not.
Future or makes a new change in the community
votes on whether or not they want that thing to happen.
But Blizzard isn't going to do that.
They're either too proud or too scared to offer
up the reins of what plastic plus might be to the community.
But we care a lot about this game.
And while the developers had their reasons
for doing what they're doing.
We wanted to take matters in Toro hands
and figure that out ourselves.
What do we, as the community, think classic plus should be?
So we took the initiative and we made it happen.
Introducing the entirely fan made
with no input from Daddy B whatsoever.
Wow, Cloud.
Daddy B. Plus a place where we've gone through everything
that we get together to ask you and trouble adventure
what you want to see.
So right now, you can head over to the website
and start taking some surveys.
In intro survey, followed by a bunch of smaller ones,
covering every aspect of the game we could think of.
Consons, to PPP, to RAIDs, and even itemization.
Once you're done, you'll be able to see
how your answers stacked up with the rest of the day.
And on this, we want to invite you to offer up
your big ideas.
I'm glad that they showed them on the content pages.
Now, each of these is built on a great workspace
for you.
I'm giving her the most of the ideas up to the community,
or people can then vote up or down
and soon enough the best ideas will be known.
Now speaking of best ideas in my previous life,
I wrote television.
So narrative is super important to me
to keep me grounded in the reason I'm doing something.
And to me, classic plus doesn't really make any sense.
Why would the game just change from what it became
to what we want to see and then it hit me?
Did you guys know that June Lord Kazak is actually the guy who opened the Dark Portal
to Outland that enabled TBC?
Now imagine with me if you will.
I remember when all the sting of the fleet at the current crucial of the war,
they've waited for too long for my revenge.
Okay, so we're really going to like stop him from opening the portal like us?
Oh, it's shut up that it needs to be closed with this door.
I mean, couldn't you just, you two, you never stopped TBC but happening.
It took place.
Very basic.
Before the TBC, we'll go for a loop and do it with whatever.
It doesn't have to be like another universe.
Another universe.
Wow, they told my god that the full on enemy was in the fight.
We're conqueror.
They come back to work.
Okay, so that's what I want to see.
and explains why we're getting plus plus.
But ever.
At least, narratively.
The Dark Portal is destroyed during Kazakhstan's attempt to open it to Outland, changing
the future of Azeroth forever.
And right here, we've pitched everything that you just saw on the website.
And for subsequent videos, the most uploaded or community favorite ideas that you,
yes, you, person watching this video, submit, could be selected to be fully animated into
to something like you just saw,
featured alongside a bunch of other content
that people have pitched.
And look, maybe you think this idea sucks.
Or your glorious red shirt guy,
it can explain in the lore
why none of that Catholic idea makes any sense.
So, come tell us, up or downboed it,
then head over to the discord
where we built a place to house all the discussion,
and together we can figure this out.
And to top it all off,
as you interact with the website,
your rank on the discord goes up pretty cool.
So, complete the surveys, check out and vote on other people's ideas to help filter out
the good ideas from the bad, and maybe even pitch an idea if you're out.
And to help get that process started, we've posted all our content ideas that you can
react to and use as your starting point.
From a whole phase schedule to new talent trees that keep classes unique while we're
moving clunkyness.
We'll talk about all of that soon, but for now, you can see in my vandal.
Oh, and we translated it.
Oh, yeah, it's not going to be really just given to the Chinese.
them as well. They're going to be playing this too and their voice should be heard.
The amount of time we've been playing, we've never had a chance to do it.
I'm not going to do it because I'm going to do it. Look at my eyes.
What's the reason you're holding this?
Because let's face it. Class of loud is a wizard gaming. It's ours.
So let's act like it.
Shots in. Because we're about to find out what classic plus really means.
Welcome to the classic plus project.
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Hmm mean not that kind of work
What
The fuck is this
Hide out
Yep
Hold him on.
I have that weapon.
Oh, holy power in undead.
I'm going to kill an AUS, I think?
Interesting.
No, no, no, keep it down.
No.
Don't move that.
Good.
Yes.
Oh, fuck.
Okay.
So now let me go to the actual link and let's go through this.
I'm probably going to speed around a bit because I've already kind of talked on just about everything.
I hate watching's are you?
I'm not to log in with discord, give me a sec, poke him.
Do, do, do.
Not my god.
I need my phone hang on one second.
Got my phone.
I knew it.
I need to do my phone, cause I don't fucking know my info.
Okay.
New camera design.
Fuck this stupid iPhone update.
I don't care, set up later. Jesus Christ.
Why do you have a bunk bed? I don't know. Great question. You should ask on the classic plus survey.
All right, I am signed in.
Oh, I'm going to our discord, okay?
That's customized, you're expecting what the fuck I don't care about that.
Okey dokey, I am going south, right?
Take the survey.
Intro survey.
All right.
What fact should you usually play?
Whichever is biss, which race you consider your main?
Feel free to pick multiple.
I mean, whatever is best for this thing I'm doing should be told.
It's actually whatever is best for the thing I'm doing.
Well, class you can sit in your main, drew it. How old are you? Man,
I was so close to me in a fucking 3-handy, but got 31.
how often do you play wow each week? I play a lot of wow. What is your experience with various
iterations of vanilla classic? Check all that apply. Okay, 2004 private servers. I did play
season mastery a little bit. Classic anniversary, 2019 relaunch. I played side. Only expanses
This is beyond vanilla, I never played vanilla, just played it all.
I wrote roles usually play, various, what region do you play from, U-S, RNA, what are
the following labels to describe you?
PVP player, chooses many as you feel accurate.
uh...
some hardcore rating auction house gamer
hardcore writer and pvp player i guess right put hardcore writer
i've done it i feel like just having done it before is like enough
in comparison to how many people have actually done it
how likely are you to play classic plus
um...
can't wait to log in
would you play or pay a box fee for classic plus if so how much I would play $60 plus but
I mean I would
should put that I guess on a scale of one to ten how much or how would you feel about classic
plus if they change how the game looked
via unreal engine
with a fucker just modern loud graphics like update the water update the terrain
just the buildings. I mean number it's one I would not touch the models in
I quit. Modern Wild Character Animations keep it classic. One spell-in, a spell
effects, keep it one classic. But like, why Unreal Engine? Just lighting and
polygone count. Why not just more retaily, am I crazy?
Portal Wild did Unreal Engine did they?
Turtle Wild Unreal Engine.
No, they tried. Was it bad?
It was never released.
I mean, here's what I'll say.
I'm like a four.
Three or a four.
I ain't no fucking ten.
Absolutely not.
I go down to three.
Like, I don't even know where to put myself here to be honest with you.
Because I just, again, had played ascension.
And I remember selecting everything classic.
Classic is classic that all across the whole thing.
And then I looked over at a Viki's computer.
computer, she was playing, we were leveling together, and hers looked so much better
that I updated my graphics to be more retaily. I think the Legion client, but it was
great because it kept the old models, and it kept, you know, the animations weren't
fucking ridiculous. It just updated the terrain and the water and the buildings and the
trails and the fences that were walking. And it still looked like classic. So it was,
or looked like, wow, rather, modern UI, I mean, I'm like a seven.
Like the modern UI is fine.
I think people have a bad taste, they're math again, because it's like you just think,
oh my god, retail, but like the modern UI, like to move anything, all of that's fine.
Maybe an eight, even, like what's wrong with it?
Um, how would you like, like, why not 10?
I'll just go wait.
How would you like Blizzard to handle the server rollout?
This was a tough one.
What did I think?
I saw it's already, I said, I don't remember what I was thinking.
Like this is beyond anything I understand when it comes to like,
servers to abilities and what is actually achievable.
I would love there to be no layers, but I know reality.
Honestly, I might even opt into four,
but why does it have to be one mega server?
Let's see, let's see, one, many servers that launch some PVP,
some PVE, a couple RP, like vanilla class, classic, like...
classic. And also, why can't we do like faction forcing on one? Why is there only forced
faction balance here? This is a, this, there, I would want to combine my own unique answer
amongst all of these together. Um, honestly, one mega server, fuck it. This is rocket,
make everyone on the same server, you know.
How would you feel of classic plus had an element of seasonal servers resetting every couple of years?
What did I think?
Don't we?
Oh, yeah, this wasn't a question that sparked more questions.
It depends on what's in the game.
It depends on what classic plus is.
Right?
Fresh is the best part of the game. Well, yeah, when it's classic, but we're talking about classic plus
Like what if classic plus has a lot of longevity to it. I don't don't fucking reset my progress. Right?
Depends on a lot of factors. Not sure. Thank God. I didn't even read to
How would you feel about layers in classic plus?
I mean, I don't want layers in classic plus.
Why do they not, like they have this depends on a lot of factors, but how do you not have
I don't want layers, but I understand, but only if it's possible, how do you not have that?
a server equals layers, but any of these equal layers, every single one of these options
you're going to have layers. It does not matter. You're having layers. Megaservoirs just more layers.
I'm just going to say no layers, but I damn well know it's not realistic next.
What should the rate size of rates be reduced? Yes, 20. Oh, I don't want to flex.
Reuse the rate size movement. Flex rate no. Reduce rate size with no flexibility.
Should dungeon find to be implemented? No, yes, but only to group you.
Still up to you to travel to the dungeon. Yes, do it like done in modern while by grouping and teleporting you inside the dungeon. Yes, you too. Should somebody stones outside of Dungeons raids be implemented?
No, should there be heroic dungeons?
Yes, maybe it depends on how they implement them.
Again, if you add heroic dungeons, you have to give a reason to be doing heroic dungeons,
which is usually gear upgrades, which I can honestly just make how hard are the heroics.
If they're not that much harder, I'm never touching on heroics.
All you've done is make the gear better now, right?
It just depends.
Should there be rated PBE in classic plus?
Yes.
Should there be rated P&P in classic plus? Yes. I don't care any of you say as soon as you make things rated
It's basically PVP and that adds longevity and you guys can kick rocks my opinion
Should AOE looting be implemented? Yes. I've gone through looting single mobs. I'm kind of fucking over it
What features of world honestly? Maybe no just a spite mages?
I don't do any AOE posted rude, but
Yes, having done the master loot on zg trash. Fuck that. What features of world buffs would you want to see in classic plus?
No world buffs ever. I think overall world buffs need to go.
There's some there's some pluses and minuses. I gave my opinion before world buffs can be really fun
Especially when you haven't gotten to use them much you feel like
You're a fucking raging monster. You're on crack. Your damage is absurd. You're breaking the game.
You feel awesome. And then you rate again. Same thing but a little less. And then you rate again.
And now you're just playing your character. This is just how you are.
And then you play without it. And now you're not even playing the game anymore. What's the point?
You don't have world buffs. That's kind of how it goes.
And it's also a chore to get them.
How would you feel of classic plus trimmed the capabilities of add-ons and weak-ores?
Also, world buffs should not be a crutch to kill a boss that you're stuck on.
Things like that. You kill the boss, you can do it with your character or you can't.
And if you want to buy flask, sure they cost a little bit of gold, but it's not a crutch.
Either way, how would you feel of classic plus trimmed the capabilities of add-ons and weak-ores?
I'd be happy to see him go.
can not wait to see everyone's opinion on that. Should Mount level requirements be lowered?
No opinion. Should flying ask me a minute. No. Should guild banks move it. Yes. Should
classic plus have achievements? Yes. Now obviously people are saying that's going to be annoying.
You won't get invited to groups because you're going to ask you to link your achievement. I think that's
pretty rare for that to happen. Well, I can recall it happened to be one time. I saw a
I saw a reddit post, I'm sure you have, but reality, I think having achievements, it's an overall net positive.
I think really it's going to come down to gear checks at the end of the day, not achievements, as it usually does.
Should reputations be streamlined, made easier to level?
Oh man, I talked about that a lot. Yes, they should add weekly, daily, or weekly quest you can do for rep, but if you're autistic you can keep farming for a box.
box if you really need to get it done that week. How do you feel about adding
Transmog? Transmog bad. Should have separated collections inventory be implemented.
For toys and mounts. No. Oh man, it's you open that book and it's going to get
awful for open that door. It's I really there needs to be some cosmetics that
people care about that don't annoy the fuck out of majority of the player base.
I don't know if toys and mounts are the right examples here.
It's got to be something else.
I'm just going to hit no.
Why do you got to put toys and mounts in the parentheses?
I don't know what though.
I don't know what you put there.
Should classic plus allow GDP's.
Oh, I would say GDP should be allowed in current classic, but I don't know about classic
plus.
There's a whole long discussion I talked about in a lot before while I was watching
Zara you.
Um, I just have to talk about it again.
I feel like I do.
GDP's suck in a lot of ways because they promote a lot of gold buying, but as we've
It's hard, people are buying gold, regardless.
It's how it is.
Not having GDPs means you have to plug everything.
But there's less pugs that are actually clearing raids because there is no incentive for the geared carries to actually go to these raids.
You need a geared tank, you need geared healers, you need some pump or GPS.
That's why every pug you see in game nowadays is looking for more BWL.
This is res, that's res, this is res, we're resing this, that's not even streamers,
you're not going to do streamer hate all you want.
It's not just streamers, it's just in general because otherwise those players have zero incentive
to carry your shitty raid with your alts.
So less people are making alts, they're not going to raids, they're not doing it.
GDP's aren't necessarily the, they're just another option with some other downsides,
but at least now you're going to get tanks that are going to go because tanks get a bigger
cut because they're tanking it and they make money off of it or gold.
Some cases money, they sell it fucking whole economies fuck, that's a body problem.
So our GDP's good or bad at the end of the day, the result with having GDP or without GDP's
less people are rating, that is the result.
That's it, let's all, et cetera.
I don't know, I'm just going to say no,
because classic plus might be different.
Okay, let's keep it all natural.
Right now, all you have are sweaty,
min-max, classic enthusiasts.
In classic plus, you're probably going to have a lot
of new people.
And I think they should get introduced with not GDPs.
And the maybe it won't be as stained and awful.
So initially, no.
Should the level cap ever be increased from 60?
No, never.
Well, depends how long after launch we'll have to see.
Yeah.
Section three, the world should classic plus have new zones.
No, keep the original zones and expand on them.
Man, can we have like a less excited, yes, please?
Like a in between one and two, like do the original zones
And afterwards, depending on where we're at, you know, we'll see, maybe add an island or something.
Yes, please now like fuck off. I'm just gonna go one
Didn't really give me another option there. If yes, where an Azeroth would be okay with you for these zones to be
Only on the main two continents anywhere in Azeroth anywhere in Azeroth and any other planet to mention
Okay, anywhere in Azeroth
Should a new content be added for leveling?
Yes, of course.
I think so.
I think, especially, I mean, for those of you that use REST at XP, link below,
you'll, there's a lot of parts where your best option is to actually just grind
them offs for three levels.
That should never be the case.
You should add new quests to kind of fix those areas.
And that's even with REST at XP.
Let's not even get into people that are trying to question naturally, especially new players,
God help them.
They probably just give up altogether and just grind mobs.
What a misplay.
So yeah, questing should be better, but it shouldn't be like retail.
Retail, you go to a town, you grab five quests at the same time, all five of those
quests go to one area, you do all five, you loot these, you kill these guys and you kill
this boss, you run back, you turn him in, gives you five new quests that go to another,
they should, you gotta keep it with classic, where you have all of these quests, and they're
spread around through the whole map, and you plan your route against your own stunts on
achievements when you say you don't want Transmog and amount down. People do achievements
for mounts, tabards, etc. So if you remove those two things, the achievements become a relevant
for most casual players. Okay, that's a tough shit. Again, I don't want fucking massive
now. If you're going to add mounts, they've got to be subtle. They've got to be subtle.
Every single mount you add makes Swift's only a tiger less impressive. It makes the
a Q40 mount, like if you add a blue bug mount,
people aren't going to care as much about scared blurred.
And that's just one mount.
Think about, yeah, like five.
It's like, people won't even know what it is.
No, it doesn't raffle.
You're wrong.
I'd argue with you.
And then also, you're going to look in the org,
just in org, in general, where you're looking around,
and everyone's going to have these ridiculous mounts all over.
Now, you want to have different horses
different codos, different, you know, wolfs, things like that, sure.
I take re-skins on those.
And maybe if it's an insane achievement, it's something really hard to do, I'll accept
other stuff.
But it's got to be not even a time investment.
It's got to be a skill and time investment, something like holy fuck, whoa, and not everyone
can have it.
Like, that's personally what I think.
Tabards. Yeah, I said yesterday Tabards. I think Tabards can be great.
Skill. Yeah, like Mage Tower. Something that where most people actually cannot do it.
They're just not good enough at the game. Either way.
Anything Mage Tower is that hard?
No, or should leveling be sped up?
Now, the leveling pace is already actually pretty good, but again, add the quests which would speed it up.
Should there be more class-specific quests?
Yes, but only to unlock abilities and spells like Warlocks?
No, I'm going to hit yes.
More than just spells, I think like whirlwindax, etc.
It could be cool as fuck.
But also, you got to be really smart about it.
it. Should there be more epic quest lines? Yes. I think so. Which of the following best
describes how you'd like to see changes in classic plus to old raids? I think I was a
two-three angle. Actually maybe even a four. So I prefer the old raids exactly how they were
easy. Tune them as needed for any change in player power, but keep the spirit of the original
I did kind of like them to be easy.
I want the initial rates, like molten core being easy, perfect.
They get harder as it goes on.
But I feel like Nax not only gets harder with gear checks,
but it also just gets harder with skill diff.
You actually have mechanics that you cannot ignore.
Like low-thab and all that jazz.
season of discovery was too hard in my opinion. A lot of people checked out because
they were too tough. I think it's important to be able to pug this shit and not
pug it, but to do a good chunk of it without being in a, you know, a coordinated
guild. Reality is not a lot of people are too hard. I mean, I could do it. You
think I can't, couldn't do it. You're stupid. But you look at like stats of these
things, a lot of people check out. They just do. Hmm. Yeah, I'm in between like two and three. Maybe maybe even for let them check out then the game dies and then you all check out because no one plays the game. You guys can, you know, have this elitist mentality all you want, but you got to be smart.
This is, this is not time to fuck around here.
No one in this twitch chat cares that you're gonna think, and they don't care.
Honestly, fuck it, I'm just gonna do four.
I, I, because I do want to see some new boss.
Oh, maybe maybe I don't.
Oh, I don't know. That's actually so hard.
Two of them is needed for any change in player power. We keep the spirit of original aid add more complex mechanics similar to season mastery discovery
Fuck, like nothing here matches up with what I want nothing here does
Fuck you I'm sitting for should there be new raids. Yes
Yes, but only stuff that already exists. Yes, we're already exists in the world plus creates a new ones. Yes
should classic plus have new playable races and if so, which of the following categories
would be acceptable? Check all that apply. Any races from future wild expansions, new playable
race already exist, completely new races? No, no, no, no, no, high elves could be cool.
I don't know, what faction would high elves go on? I don't even know.
They would go on alliance, fuck. Okay, well, the fuck the high elves.
Again, my opinion is, Horde needs a sexy race.
It's, it is a big turn off to a lot of people because they don't have blood elves.
blood elves. I would just like to see Draenine blood elves and then call on a day. That's it.
New playable racer exists in your recent future. Well, what I put here.
You know, on the ascension. I've just started playing it and I'm not done
to lie some of the stuff and dungeons they've added are so good. The world forged items are
I'm going to skip the rest of that, it's a fun experience, but I don't think it actually
will work in a blizzard hosted server setting. There's a lot of downsides, but there's some
cool things on the sentient, but they wouldn't work on blizzard. And yes, I do like the way
the caverns changes, et cetera. Board getting nogas, I don't think nogas are actually feasibly
possible because they don't have legs. I don't know about that. We're going to in Belfs already
exist? Yeah, I guess new playable races that already exist in Azeroth, you know, we'll
go with two. Should Classic Plus have new classes? No. Yes, but only classes added in the
other well expansions. Yes, the ones we've seen, but also completely new classes never
seen the well before. I mean, it's either one or three, but I'd have to see what that
class is three. What's the class you could add that is not been added to the game that would
would make sense in classic.
I still think I'm a one, but I'm just curious.
Bard, Bard could be cool, tanker, archer,
battle mage, witch doctor, necromancer.
I feel like those are too close to either,
you know, Ranger, or sorry, Hunter, or Warlock.
They're just not unique enough.
I'm just gonna go with no.
because I feel like they're gonna add the barred
and everyone's gonna hate it just like every time
they add a new class of the game.
It's just miserable.
It's gonna have some AOE fucking flute playing,
song, annoying, fucking spell,
and everyone's gonna freak the fuck out.
Ow, freak the fuck out.
I'll be so annoyed.
Should new race, class combos be added?
Yes.
Yes, but all these stuff that makes sense and keeps factions racist feeling unique.
Yes, allow any race to be any class.
Trying to think of how that would play out.
I mean, absolutely not, but I feel like if you do that, it's going to be.
Everyone's just going to be like, let's say humans are, every one's humans.
Tarring robes, by the way. No. Let's go with the the factions race is
feeling unique too. Should the Hornet Paladins, yes, yes, and the lion ship
shaman's, yes. Should classes be reworked new base abilities and spells,
classural combinations. I think I'm a three, and I talked about this. Some
new spells that modernize ability rotations just don't completely change that way.
If they had bought, they only place that.
You know she will be playing her harmonic every time she asks a spell.
You're basically making TBC with those changes.
Why?
Because I'm adding blood elves and and drain eye and adding palenance of shamans to both
races.
It's just TBC now.
That's a retarded take.
TBC also had some good ass changes.
Of the following, what is the most important change needed to raid buffs in classic plus?
Raid buffs should cost less mana. Fuck it. One, two, and three. I remember now. And then raid buffs should be combined. So little guys can do that. Fuck that.
Yeah, I should town specializations be reworked.
to somewhat, but only with a light touch. In other words, again, a lot of hybrids are kind
of fucked. Their talents make no sense. I don't even know why that's there. Insects,
warm, is in Resto. That's stupid. Warlock talents are all janky. They're just stupid
as hell, there's probably some other specs that just have some what the fuck is going
on talents. And just change a couple of those what the fuck. Move some things around.
Omen of clarity should proc on casting spells, not just melee attacks. I think what they
intended was for moonken to be melee. Like genuinely I think when they made balance
there meant to be a melee class, which is insane.
Should do talent specializations be added for classes.
No, no new talent specs,
but they should make tank shaman a thing in the enhancement talents.
Someone linked me something,
to really, they linked me this.
Like, they already have shield specialization.
You should just give them like,
I don't know, still a shield or something that makes it where they can tank.
And I say more tanks because we all know it's hard to find tanks for raids.
More tanks is good, but it should just be an enhancement shaman.
They should be able to tank simply by gearing as an advantage.
Just like a feral droid.
Feral droid can gear for pure DPS, damn near.
And sure, they're not going to have an insane mitigation set like a pure tank, but they can
still go bare-form an off-tank, enhancement shaman's should be in the same boat, my opinion.
Should every specialization be competitive in both PvE and PvP?
Sorry you pointed out yes, every spec should be viable in all scenarios.
I do like that mages and warlocks are the gods of AoE.
And I'd like to see raid mechanics where you need to have
mages to handle this AO, like, well, many welps.
But the welps are actually a problem,
and you need to AOE them down.
I don't think rogues need AOE.
Feralals don't need AOE.
So I don't like that it says viable in all scenarios.
But every class should be desired to bring to raid,
and that is not the case.
I feel like rogues should be able to play mutilate
or assassination and still do damage.
It's not really even the case in TBC.
A shaman should be able to play Ellie and enhancement.
That's a hybrid.
It says second one,
not in most cases,
but vanilla hybrid classes don't perform well.
Outside of healing,
those classes used some love.
Yeah, you have to play shaman,
Resto, if you want to be useful.
You have to play Resto Druid,
Alan Strud, it's just useless.
You have to heal as a priest.
your useless otherwise, like that, it's all problem.
Same with Paladin's too.
But I'd go farther.
Again, I'd like to see Rogues be able to play in Venom if they wanted.
I'd like to see Willier's play arms and PvE if they wanted.
I'd like to see Hunters be able to play BM, et cetera.
Warlock should be able to play affliction.
Things like that.
So what is my answer?
I think I actually go with one.
Street we told, there's always going to be a meta.
Always going to be a meta.
But I shouldn't look at someone in the best gear
that they can possibly have and still say no to them
because they're a spec that I don't like.
And that's where we are with classic.
Not good.
Should dual specialization be implemented?
Yes.
Should new professions be added?
Sure.
new professions out awesome just depends, though, you know, what they are and what they
actually do.
Should professions be updated?
Yes, make them relevant.
I am not a robot.
End of survey.
Intro done.
World.
Holy.
Block.
Dungeons.
Pick the top three dungeons you enjoy leveling in classic.
Wow.
All right.
Everyone's going to have different opinions here, but you know, let's give my top three.
like getting your first blue, it's hard to, you know, top that.
Honestly, BRD is up there.
That's when you start getting some actual endgame like spell damage.
Plus it's a really long dungeon.
I love BRD.
You do deadmines too. I just why can't I do fuck that sucks. I don't I do wailing caverns because I was a hoard player growing up
That's just my nostalgia speaking though
What else in here?
How many can I select? Oh all of them. Ooh
Fuck all the men
I
Like CF
Am I am I fucking crazy? I feel like a lot of majors hate this place by now considering they
farm it and she's the whole leveling experience but... okay.
Now pick the top three dungeons you think the major revamp's.
It's just like I'm all proud of the fuck I mean maybe not major revams major revams is
coming off a little too strong but you know there's some chain like fuck I'm just
kind of pre-emprisonally again.
Ascension and maybe it was epoch?
I think it might have been ascension.
I'm not sure.
I loved what they did for Whale and carrots.
I never played turtle-wow.
A lot of people were going to turtle-wow.
I'm sure they did great too.
I didn't play that.
And it was still the same fucking dungeon.
It was just kind of changed a little bit.
So what do I put in here?
Because I feel the same way about every single dungeon.
Every single one.
slight changes. Stockage sucks. Stockage does suck. I agree. Nomerigan. I think Nomerigan's
fine. I mean, again, every dungeon here needs revamps. It needs to be updated. You
can shift some things around here and there. Nothing crazy, not major revamping. I don't
No more needs major revamping.
Some can temple does.
I agree, having to get all those statues is extremely unfun.
Olderman, olderman's fine.
SM graveyard is forgettable.
SM graveyard's fine.
Well, I guess the non-alites are kind of annoying
and kind of unfunner.
there's so many non-elites, and it just feels like,
ugh, thoughts objective.
Dude, I almost wanna select everything here.
I mean, fuck.
Yeah, I wish you could say minor adjustments.
Cause I just feel like there's minor adjustments
that should be made across the board,
but I'm gonna select those two and whatever.
At launch, given a finite amount of developer resources,
should more effort be put into creating entirely new dungeons or improving old dungeons.
Okay, if we have limited resources, I'm sure we fucking will.
New dungeons will be more fun to experience a launch, focus on them.
New dungeons can't ever, old ones are in dire need of work to fix.
I actually think three.
I see two kind of a balance between both, but new dungeons, I think would be kind of hype.
You know, to have like an update come out, just to classic plus it's going to be popular.
And the most important thing is tons of people are playing the game.
And they will be initially.
And then you add a dungeon later, kind of read does a little bit of hype,
gets more people to be excited, it's super important.
So I'm a three-eight, Andy.
Should more open-world dungeons and quesacosated with be added?
Think areas like Jadenar and Felwood?
Oh, okay.
I'm a storm guard in a raffy, okay?
Or dark whisper, gorge, and winter spring?
Open-world dungeons.
Huh, this is an interesting thought process.
Open world dungeons are boring.
I can take any number of friends in the show.
I don't ever be challenging.
I mean, that's true, but most people will not do that.
I actually think,
I think too.
I mean, sure, like, more dungeons,
like actual instance dungeons are fun and all,
But not everything needs to be instanceed.
And you can go class and it can feel cool
to try and two-man these kind of things.
Like even the dungeon in red, or open world dungeon,
like the elites in that castle, you imagine
if that was instanceed, I'd be super annoyed actually.
I kind of liked that it's open world.
So no, open world dungeons feel cool.
You have to really think about it,
it feels stupid to say, no, keep it true.
But how do you feel about rare spawns inside of Dungeons?
Rare spawns are annoying.
If I want an item off of one, I have to enter it.
My division scout to see if it's spawn and then leave, yeah, that's true.
Rare spawns are cool, but make them always spawn.
They're not rare.
Yeah.
Rare spawns aren't exciting in front of Dungeons, and I want to see more of them.
I'll be honest, I think one, I guess we'll go to.
Rare spawns are cool, but just make them always spawn.
They're not rare anymore. I mean, both of the one and two is essentially getting rid of them.
That's my opinion. Like, I got Jed farming for Jed or Iron Spine in SM graveyard.
No, you don't want them to always spawn. Okay.
You sure counter argument, unless you're farming for Jed. Like, if you're just doing an SM graveyard run,
There's a lot of like two, there's three rairs in SM graveyard, I think.
It can feel kind of cool, holy shit, our enspined is up, you know?
And your random group isn't going to fucking fish for a rare in SM graveyard. They're not doing that.
But mother fuckers do fish for Jed.
And that's really the optimized minmax, that's because you're going for Jed.
No one loathe leveling is like trying to fish for whatever.
I just think make them always spawn guys.
I mean, I think to the day, this is actually pretty minimal.
This isn't a big deal.
How do you feel about lockout caps?
Lockout caps are critically important to prevent OP classes from farming certain enemies.
Keep them in the game five per hour.
Doesn't really affect me.
Whatever.
I hate lockout caps.
They're fun detected solution to a problem that is not a problem.
problem. If they removed lockout caps, what is going to be abused? I guess boosting people
with a mage in dungeons. I actually almost, if they made it to where you're going
do one instance per hour. How would that play out?
Seriously. Can't do SM? Well, it's one lockout. You just wouldn't be able to spam
SM Cathedral over and over again, but you could do armory and cathedral.
Well, good luck farming pummelers.
Well, pummelers should be removed from the game.
You're right though.
Yeah, that would fuck over druids.
In the current classic, stop limiting our options.
I like limiting bots.
Personally, anything that hurts bots
is an overall good thing for the game.
It just depends on how much is it hurt the rest of the player base, right?
And I don't fucking boost people on a major, do any of that.
Here's what I do see.
If you did one lock out per hour, I could totally see grouping up for like an SM graveyard
or something.
Someone fuck something up somewhere.
goes into an instance, leaves the group, gets a reinvite, gets summoned, and because they
join that instance before joining the group, now they're locked out for an hour.
The whole group is fine, stop for me, see what I'm saying?
I don't know, it doesn't affect me.
Or maybe bots don't care, I don't know, hey, lockout caps are fun, let's shoot.
I don't care. You guys can kick rocks. How do you feel about dungeons having a rotating or random boss spawn with specific loot?
Edge of madness boss and oh and ZGF that are at ZF.
There's not a lot of these bosses. All I can think of, the only boss I can think of that really matters is ring of law.
law for SGC. Let's see only thing I can think of. Who cares? It's cool if it's not
abused. These are bosses that fund variety week to week or lock out to lock out makes
each run different. I'd be disappointed to see this removed. I mean it's just SGC farming.
That's really all it is. Fuck, I hated healing warriors in BRD. I don't know how many SGC
I hope lawyers get in 2019, but I should have been paid by the hour. It was awful.
I'm just going to say no opinion. I really don't have one. Should there be heroic dungeons in classic?
Again, why is there, it depends on how they're brought in. It really depends. You could do it with
do it with, um, it just depends.
If they just bring in Heroics and they just give better loot,
honestly, I feel like the dungeon loot, if you upgraded it,
like your pre-raid biss, it's going to be better than MC gear.
If you upgrade it, damn near.
I mean, some of them already are because they're just statted better.
Um, I don't know, again, bringing in new gear is a tough thing to do.
And that's why I'm kind of iffy on hero of dungeons.
I love making more challenges.
It's just what do you get rewarded and it gear is tough.
I'm just going to say no opinion because you don't give me the option.
I'm really curious to see what everyone voted on that when I get to end.
Should there be mythic plus style dungeon ladders and progression?
Sure, as long as it's purely cosmetic rewards, yes, I do think so.
Should certain bosses or areas be locked behind requiring specific class for profession in your dungeon group?
Huh
Yeah, I kind of like that. Am I crazy?
I kind of like, as long as every class is getting at least one and every single one of
those bosses, drop something that's actually like, hey, we really have to bring it, yeah,
hey, you know, can you come open this? I'd love to be a druid. That's good RP. Hell yeah, it is.
As long as it's every class, everyone's getting something here.
Fuck yeah.
Should player power chase items, should player power chase items, should player power
chase items be extremely low drop rate items and dungeons or should those only be cosmetic
drops.
I think they were to this retarded.
much stupid, should player power chase, chased, or a D there, whatever, and
dungeons or should those only be cosmetic, farming these is annoying, and I feel like
I'll never get them, just remove them, oh, hey, we're talking about SGC, SGC is actually
formable, okay? Bell striker and iron foe are you get it or you don't. While you're
farming, I don't know, hodge or fucking dowel rents, okay? And you take it when you do
get it. I think the gambling, I think it's fun. I think it had some fun, you know? If you
remove these from the game, I would not be excited again. World of Warcraft is a 24
seven glorified slot machine. Okay? They got to add more really low drop rates. Every time
you click that shit, it should be some really low chance of some awesome shit happening.
Even while fucking killing elps in dustwood, okay? Like something can drop, and it should be
crazy. Crazy in the sense of, you know, maybe a blue piece of gear you can wear, or
or some cosmetic shit, or I don't know, a fish barrel,
like in runescape while you're fishing, things like that.
They should be low.
And yeah, the fell striker and iron foe, those are great.
I love these items, we just wanted to keep it.
Then why is it full of bot?
They should be class bound stuff,
or account bound stuff, a lot of it.
World Warcraft already has the blue gear that can drop,
off of every mob while you're questioning.
or an epic. I do think a lot of the blues and stuff. This is an annoying gripe. I have
with the game. I don't know why it's like this. Whenever you kill a mob and it drops a blue,
a BOE, it's like eight levels below you. Why? Why is that? I don't know. It's weird. Should there
be solo challenges, delves, mage tower, yes. I love it. Maybe not delves. I haven't
done them, but I feel like I haven't done them. I haven't seen what those are like, but
I know mage tower was cool. It's solo stuff. Yeah. Should dungeon find or be implemented?
But only as an in-game UI to assist forming groups.
Again, 2019, I would have said fuck no, back in my day, I had to whisper, and yeah, you know what?
I did that again in 2019 and I've relived it and you know what? I'm good.
But you shouldn't be able to teleport. Traveling to the dungeon is still in a world experience.
It's getting rid of that is just another step in the direction of turning everything into a city simulator.
So, yes, form your groups, but you got to run there.
Should something stones?
Oh, here we go.
Yes, automate.
Wait, oh, whoa, hold on.
This is two and three.
There's two options.
Only as an in-game UI to assist, or yes, automatic forming.
But I still have to try out the instance, automatic forming, meaning you just queue up, and
will put you in a group with a tank, a healer, and 3DPS. How do you all feel about that?
I don't know. I think, personally, I mean, it's just an effectiveness trigger.
It's not social enough. Neither is two. I guess, I guess it is a little more social.
Sure. You queue up and you just look at all the tanks available. You still have to whisper.
for them. Right? And be like, hey, you cut up or just invite them, rather manually.
I'll go with you. I'm with Chew on you. I just wanted to know you also been. And you
can choose your comps true. The thing is, yeah, you do, oh my God. I was playing a
rogue and I got paired with two other rogue for deadlines. I am leaving the group instantly.
I'm fucking out of there. Fuck that. Should somebody soans outside of Dungeons
trades be implemented. No, getting to the dungeon adds experience of being in the world.
Alright, where are we at now?
Wow!
Oh no.
Are we okay?
My survey!
Oh hell.
what did it fucking log me out
uh...
it's logging me in right now it's taking its sweet time to
Did you see this blizzard post? No.
The fuck? How was the YouTube link?
Say to Vazerohko's live January 29th at 9 a.m.
Oh, state of Azerohko.
January 29th in three days.
I don't think I want to be live on that day.
This could be big.
Again, they've been hinting classic plus.
They may announce it.
Modern and classic road map.
They're probably maybe they're just going to talk about when they're like,
when they plan on releasing SSC, when they plan on releasing
Black Temple, etc.
Dark portal housing item and more updates from Holly and Ian. Okay.
That's already set. Is it?
Look at the bottom.
If our demon hunter needs some tweaks, rotation needs some more buttons,
let's get the Mach Nathal up in Azeroth.
Classic plus win.
Battle Mage.
Make decor item cheaper and I'll be interested. Let's go.
So, love YouTube comments, love that.
Okay, let me try signing in again. It might be fucking better now. We'll see.
Yeah, that's cooked. I just got message by Jordi. They said it trying to work on it.
I'm lucky.
Plus more, I mean, I don't know if it's going to be classical plus.
Now it's been, I want them to announce it.
I doubt that maybe they will.
Right now we have TBC prepatch, which is whatever.
TBC releases on February 5th.
And I've got midnight, like what two weeks after or a month after.
Uh...
Last day of February, so 29th, classic plus will never happen.
I mean, honestly, the thing I'm most excited for is to see what everyone else voted
to survey wise.
Imagine, like on all your multiple choice with like four submissions, it's just 25%
complete, even hard to split on everyone's opinion.
It will be, it fucking might be, man.
I'm curious.
Yeah, I can't fucking connect.
It's cooked.
I gotta wait until they fix it, I guess.
Jordi said, by the way, the data will not be available
for a couple of days.
Okay, so we're not even gonna be able to see people's responses
and the percentage is for a while.
Shit.
That's, I gotta wait.
They wanna get a lot of submissions first.
Watch the new RavVid.
I, is there another, another another one?
So I watch two RavVids yesterday.
Yeah, I already seen it.
Tolerary is actually
Boost a pound and get thunder fury and hand of rag in the first MC and tells are you that sounds like an awesome thing. I'm just gonna go do really quick
Let me just go do that
I don't look at my stuff.
Trying to log in again if it's correct I'm about to use some BGs.
I think it's cooked, all right, I'll check back in in a bit.
Here's what I kind of want to do here.
I was going to do single-class-only BG's.
In other words, 15 druids.
14 shamans and one druid. I only have it, I only have a druid.
And if I boost, I'm going to be 58, I'm going to get fucked.
So what class should I do first?
That's epic.
Not that epic because me, but it is a pre-made and we should win every single game
15 rogues
Allotons warrior rogues
Okay, let's try rogues first
All right, if you're a rogue and you want to do it on a rathie basin send me a whisper this nor guy whisper me
Let's go bro
the
small security nor
all right
any more rocks
range to roll here to fucking bullshit
also I saw peak of the finally leveled a
a
or boosted a warlock on night's later
board that he came to the right
side
I also noticed or my friend told me he
got traded thirty five hundred
gold
instantly
Dude, I have 70 gold in my name, and I've been begging.
I've been damn near on my knees. The only person giving me gold is a drunk alcoholic named
I'm drunk by the way. See, only one. Where's my money? This is sad and pathetic.
I'm not even getting robes. Any robes? Night Slayer? I've got three. This is embarrassing.
Any rogue, here we go.
I don't even care what gear you have, bro.
It doesn't matter.
It's a rogue only a raffy basin.
Plus one droid.
Here we go.
There we go.
Poor.
I am.
I got here's the rogues.
Now we're logging in.
Let's go dogs.
Okay, here they are.
There are...
Maybe three more.
Ooh, bang.
Dang.
This guy's level one, get off my screen.
Two more.
Oh, this guy wants in.
Dang in the guild.
All right, nice.
All right, guys.
Are any of you in a dungeon
or a peat or a battleground.
Poll duck.
We're gonna have to wait on this guy. Is everyone 60?
Yep, all right, we're good.
This is so busted. I'll be honest, I don't know if we're gonna actually win.
14 rogues.
I feel like
it's going to be kind of cut.
You can remove me, AV was about to finish, is your AV is your AV about to finish or you're
saying AV was about them confused.
Joy Bear has come online, they're in the guild, Joy Bear getting.
Back is at 25% okay if I can go.
Be join.
That means it ends like two seconds.
You get like three instant kills and then it's a coin toss, right?
Do you need more robes?
I can log into my next geared rogue.
I mean, should I do some gear inspecting?
PvP here's fine. Checked Hold Duck.
Oh yeah we're geared over there. Check this rug. Blood-out by the way.
To Muna? Oh, but full PvP.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
We just first struggle in here. Sorry, dog.
Carry flag log over. Guys get to the BG area. Now at this point I've got plenty of robes asking the join up.
I'm gonna get a little more particular on who's joining.
You don't need to stop embarrassing your entire class.
Twisted Rogue.
Do you need a healer? No. I'm a healer. I'm just going to heal these guys. Who have I not
inspected by the way? I think we're good. Fuck it. Let's queue up. I'll see you guys in the
BG. Bang. Alright, put these on a lion's queue up a rathie basin. Fuck it. Go Feral. I have
no fair all gear bro missing one oh shit leave queue
uh... any other rogues
one guy was ready me said i'm full tier three
damn people are way everyone's here now what on
Okay, mall security, good enough.
Milando.
He wasn't kidding, he's full tier three, grab the daily.
You're right.
Good call.
I think we're actually pretty geared, guys.
Twisted rogue.
Death sting, tier three, yeah, we'll take that.
Good enough.
you sleep now
hey
go ahead and get you had a good run
uh... deadly farts or lotus to deadly farts
Got the Farts login.
Some poor human is gonna put on perception
and they have a heart attack.
Oh shit.
Oh he's got a blood thing hood.
All right, guys, this is good enough.
I don't think there's anyone else in here
with communal except twisted is offline.
What are you doing?
At a time like this.
I
Twisted. Come on. How is my gear ninja burger?
It's good enough dog
It looks like you've replaced most of your communal pieces. I notice you don't have your PVP drink in equipped
That might be due to the drug overdose here on right now because that's insane to do
He said DC, okay, we'll wait long to fuck back in areas
how do you not get pp drink it
it's five minutes and that's cringe is hell
where are you? Africa?
the
yeah, I'll play Resto. I wish I was a rogue like I can boost to 60 and just be like a communal bitch with these guys, but
I guess I'll heal them at least I can stealth.
Warlock next.
I kind of want to go against other pre-made.
I feel like we get annihilated.
There we go.
How long has ABQ these days?
On hoard it's about a five minute wait. What is it on alliance?
Instant oh
I mean it just means hoards more populated, right?
Welcome to pre-made club. Yeah, I mean, I don't think this queue is long because we're in a pre-made
It's five minutes whether you're queuing solo or not it doesn't matter
the
for a delicious
it's not in some three minutes, okay
yeah maybe warlock after we'll see
dots, dots upon dots.
I want to see one mother fucker get targeted and just get literally five rows of curses and
corruption.
I'd be fucking brutal.
Just one unstable affliction to every time you dispell.
It's just the biggest slot machine you've ever seen.
I
hopefully you guys have daggers you can ambush with Mootjo in Portanto
uh...
someone i'm gonna inspect me getting the a.b
i'm gonna tell you guys where to go
some of you guys with bitch gear are gonna be going to defend and cap like
Maybe, oh, shit. What should I do?
Shiesend the geared rogues to try and cap lumber mill in Goldmine or Shiesend, like the least geared
rogues going to defend farm.
But initially going to cap.
Send us to the sides. Okay.
Blacksmith is super important, most people are going blacksmith.
You need to see their mount speed as well, bro. Who does not have an epic mount? You're right.
Let's see this guy's damage. This guy is fucking full bone-sight.
I want you to try and kill me. Fuck me up. I'm rest over. I'm not gonna kill you.
I'll try and survive.
Go ahead and get your open.
Okay.
to
be like I don't know if I need to be back
the
eye can't kill me
big damage though, that's it is hard
fucks backstab. Can't kill you, I know. I know you can't.
Yeah, I rest of druids gonna win at that point. Do you have what poisons do you have on?
Double crippling is wound poisons not really viable. I guess they don't really need it.
This is double crippling angle, right?
You don't have any? I see
Go ahead, have your opener, bro
I'm Rester, so it's hard to kill me
Oh, win poison, oh, okay. Oh, oh, got the fairy off
unfortunate blind gamer
what are you going to do
chattlestet
a
a lot of
the
who the kidney resist unfortunate sir
oh shit I'm almost out of water by the way
uh oh
But I actually needed flight of cabins.
Personal over here on 60% by the way. Personal on 60% what does that mean?
Oh. I need to go to Silvermoon. Fuck. I need to go.
Okay, I'm going to go to the Oxstiles and buy. This is going to be expensive.
Always on a 60% mount, oof.
Oof.
I have time to auction out by water.
I wish I had a timer. How long do I have?
I got a minute. Okay. I got time.
But I'm not going to be able to do many assignments.
Let me go out.
30 seconds, I just don't want to be in a BG without water, this miserable, what a fuck.
Oh, take the fucking water you laggy shitty game, God.
All right.
Let's do this.
Oh, thank you.
I got any assignments.
Let's do personal pee.
You're defending farm.
Life's hard.
You stay there.
You only move up if we end up for a capping them
and we can push up stables.
Let's do.
Twisted.
if I get twisted and swift you guys go gold mine list you told us and
we do's you guys go lumber mill everyone else blacksmith
two roads are going in you guys are fighting do cc don't suck
let me buff everybody holy shit
right? I'll see we're going against here. Not a pre-made. Imagine seeing this
on the alliance side. It's all fucking roads plus someone named gay kitty. Holy fuck.
That's rough. Don't get flared out. I want to see a lot of saps. Saps on saps on saps. Don't
Don't break the saps, let them sit.
Sap them, start sapping, get them, get them before they get in combat.
Oh, I got locked out hard.
I'm bad.
That fucking C.S. fucked me.
I mean, I could have healed too. My fault. How are we doing? Looks like we got gold
mine. Swift, you defend twisted. You move on. Yeah, hard casting like a fucking novice
there. You're right. My bad. I should have been able to heal blacksmith. If you're still fighting
twisted, just keep it up. But when it comes to defending, you're the one that leads
twisted. Poll Duck died, but that's okay. We're gonna three cap them. Let's just get
three and then we'll decide from there what we do. Nice y'all got blacks without me hell
yeah. Let's make sure we defend blacks with a bit. Good calls. We're gonna rush lumber mill next.
Remember, sap is your best friend. You should try and go for sap before you go for ambushes. It's
It's more important.
keep fucking em, we love CC out here.
Ooh.
Okay, gold mine is good, lumber mill is caped,
blacksmith seems to be good.
Keep an eye out, they're gonna come from Staples, obviously.
Ninja Berger, you're on defense here.
Add uh over here.
I'm trying to pick the least geared rogue. Sorry. It's just based on gear here.
Trying to find captains and end it.
Barnbro.
Personal piece is farm, did he?
This man is fine.
Gold mine is getting fucked.
you guys are fighting there I guess you guys got this I'm leaving I'm gonna go
gold-mine if I can't you trying to get to gold-mine second heal yeah they just need
a healer I'm trying keep spinning on that don't let them fucking cap I'll heal
Yeah, there we go, there we go. I'm here now. We fucking. We fucking.
Okay, I got rep that sucks.
All right, once we get gold mine in this clear, let's leave.
the
again you guys know your assignments on defending
I want you to spam the chat
those are defending
if you're being attacked because we don't see shit
lumber mill two to three
okay we gotta get to lumber mill then
sap and law as long as you can
we don't need two people blacks by the way unless there's actually fights happening
the
yet they're going along the hard here
i don't know if we get there in time do what you can bro spam sap and interrupt
he's got a spam sap for interrupts
he's out of stealth
no way you live
who that fear is rough
Oh!
Got you, dog.
Okay, now let's go push stables. We pushed them back. It stables before they start heading to gold mine. We got to go stables.
Yeah, sap these fuckers. Get to sap in boys. Get them out of the game and then start clobbering someone.
Re-saps. Love that.
the
region's the entire world I got a drink
and
all big saps over there
got their actually sat the entire game
every one is just permanently
Fuck yeah look at him all this
I'm so...
and
problem is there's a spam rising and we don't have any long-jewity out here
like my healing is just not I need to fucking
fucking innovator something to cut.
Yeah, try and eat and drink.
I need to fullen out of here.
Shit.
you're dead
we're gonna have to regroup team
it's a regroup angle for sure
as fuckers are running around with wrong side we love that
I wish I could smell that ferry off you dude I can't do a damn thing for you kill us pali
All right, let's hit it, let's start sappin' everything, sappin' and go, ambushes across
the board. Clover time, baby. Hit it. I'm full manna, we're healing for days. Okay.
Oh, okay. Cheat that was on cooldown clearly. I'm being targeted. I'm being a hard targeted
here. I'm dead. Good luck. We just cannot get stables huh.
and
yet these guys really not wanting us to five
yet I would say all the plate where is just
the blinds and you're sat with them in the
All right, we've got our team coming in. They're mounted. Guys, let them all sap. Don't get in combat.
Saps everything, whatever once here.
Saps across the board, and then in the after like three seconds just go.
Saps, more sap, sap, saps, saps. They're in combat, so start doing damage.
May they really want me, huh?
of
the
all the rest
of the rest
5 caps, we did it.
We love that shit. Hell yeah, good job team.
I cannot believe they played that all the way to the end.
Yep, keep them, don't let them go through the gate.
Saps and damage.
Shit. Shit. Oh no.
and
nice that's game
healing done how much healing that I even do
I mean there's not really much to heal people dying simply except for my team
Damn, along the clobbered damage wise.
I gotta see a sap count. Good job, Rogues. Well done.
They don't even have healers. I think they had a holy palace.
Something we'll see.
Alright, we got a rogue here. BDSM.
I need that.
Bro, I'm actually so broke. Thank you.
Oh!
Wait, let me show off your gear. Level one, logged out.
and
any other roads for some bg's need to more
raffles right you damn miles you'll show us gear off and everything for that little dopamine hit
but he logged out
turn it by daily here
We're doing MRE, what is MRE?
Vexful, I'll choose to dip, that's fine, GGs.
Yeah, we're doing more bro, I mean, fuck, I need to unum, I need two more.
Or should I just dip and do full warlocks?
I feel like I do one more is rogue.
I kind of want to see us lose.
and
not a lot of students were like all right
warlocks next warlocks in the whisper and try to be an org
uh... over here by the bgq and gg's rocs
look at their gamers
it's a warlock run only
i don't know there's a lot of locks people don't play this class even though it's super strong
Oh, there's the Warlocks bang.
All the dots are going to lag dude.
I don't know what's special these guys are going to all play, but yeah.
Whatever y'all want, as long as you'll have gear, my only thing is I don't want you to be in fucking communal.
Right?
I don't mind your full rank 14, perfect.
Good enough.
But if I start seeing like fucking communal off pieces left and right, that's...
Fuckin' whatever.
Oh, the geek, nice.
We need one more.
We're doing gear checks, by the way.
Gear checks.
You're chilling.
Good enough.
Many brains not here, it's check dots.
Chilling.
Bolt goes burr.
We got a communal trinket, but like everything else replace your good.
Good enough.
Who will dot? This guy's gonna be geared.
Oh no, he's...
That's who will dot?
Could you do this?
Nah, sorry bro.
I cook, I cook, do you though?
I had that fucking son is right in my face, you uh, me check this.
That's a struggle.
Fuck it.
All right, woohoo dot.
You're so confident you're going to parse.
I'll be checking the logs.
Let's see how you do, bro.
the
U.S.
All right, anyone else not geared?
It's all geared enough.
All right, guys, cue it up.
Next lock.
Unlocky.
It's fine.
Why so many warlocks?
I don't know.
It's crazy RNG that everyone was spring was a warlock, man.
lock, man.
So strange.
Coincidence, really.
Actually, what do y'all think is more likely that dream didn't cheat on his Minecraft
speedrun or you happen to Q of BG and you winning against 14 locks and 1-jude.
I don't know, isn't it crazy to kind of think about it like that though?
Watch the enemy team at 14 warriors.
happen. We've earned played Darkest Dungeon 2. I have but I haven't played it a lot. I have a
Darkest Dungeon 1 play through coming up. But ever I get home or sometimes I, oh God,
fuck, my skins aren't going to be ready until February 5th. That is literally the day TBC
launches. So that's cooked. So obviously going to play TBC on launch day and I'm probably going to be
grinding it pretty hard for a substantial amount of time. It's cooked.
So basically one year plus. No, it'll be before only thanks for sure. I just don't
know when. Yeah, Darkest Dungeon VK and I have like our own custom skins and it's like
it's just skins who cares. But if I do a Darkest Dungeon playthrough now, I'm literally
never going to use those skins that we commissioned. So you think Blizzard won't
fuck up the launch? I mean, I hope not. I know the launch is on a third. A fuck
my ear just clicked. I know it's going to be on like a Thursday, which is already a
little abnormal, but I don't know what time it's going to launch either.
Did they say that?
3 pmpst, so that's 5 pm or wait.
Yeah, I think that's 5 pmpst.
Man, that's around the time I end my stream.
Oof!
I'll probably just be doing a really late night stream then.
I'm launched a.
I just hope it's not delayed because then it's like I'm up until 10 for God knows what that point.
I wish I just went to bed.
I'll log in the next day, right?
Dulo, we're locked, check them.
Come outside of our guys.
Come DPS me.
Kicks and all, your goal is trying to kill me. I don't care how you do it.
Cruel is outside of work.
What?
Huh?
He's got hounds and everything.
Go ahead, pull it.
see here what is this?
I
As we try and bring him into org.
Oh, void vault.
Oh my god.
God. Wow. He's coded to not enter org. That's cringe, which you kill everybody. What
the French toast. Imagine bringing this fucker in, but as Annie is dropping or something
and just killing everyone before they can boon it.
And
Yeah apparently doesn't come into org
All right here we go. I'm gonna do some assignments here gamers.
I'm gonna look for the least geared warlocks and you might be on defensive duty.
Okay.
Okay, let's just look at health here.
All right, we're going to do this, Tholi. You are going to be on farm. You're going to
cap it you're going to defend it life is hard
uh...
me buff everybody
oh we know u-woo dots
oh my u-woo i'll let you parse u-dots find your thing
uh... let's put
okay typhus you're going to go lumber mill along with yik
we're going to put
Oversite and Knox Warlock, you're going gold nine.
And then once you guys cap it, assuming you do,
oversite, you're gonna stay there and defend it.
And who do I send with Yick to lumber mill?
Whoever I send with you, whoever's going lumber,
Life is, if y'all cap it, you're defending it.
And then everyone else, we go blacksmith.
All right, I am your healer.
If you're missing health, you're either healing your damn self
or you're looking at my man to see if I even can heal you.
Pretty fucking straightforward here.
that's a
life tap that doesn't heal you
don't you do that
mark myself of the star that's your healer
all right i want to see rose upon rose of dots and burst on these
fuckers
okay they didn't go oh they're scared they're expect quick let's go
gold mine let's go secure gold mine
Oh my god, that shadow fury fairied
Excellent, let them rot team let them rot
Oversight is blinded it looks like they got some stuff going on down here
You guys can go stables. Let me just go help heal him. We'll get this. I'm just gonna heal him here
It's no problem
Okay, we might need some, it will see. I think we'll find actually.
Alright y'all got it. We got stables. We got gold mine. Remember, you know who's defending.
Capit. Scarum seems to be fine at Blacksmith, I think. It's a lumber mill angle.
We're going to do go get lumber mill, but also keep them at the gate.
As long as they keep rising there, that's beautiful.
We love that.
I'm going to go lumber mill.
Let's take everyone who was at Gold 9.
Everyone else you're at the gate.
Parson clear.
Everybody's AFK already.
Yeah, they gave up.
That's usually how it's going.
We'll cue again.
This was an unfortunate match.
guys dying to a pet, by the way.
Alright, once we get stables,
let's make sure they don't res here, they did res.
It's cap it, wipe them, everyone pushes up to the gate.
Even people defending you don't need to be defending anymore. You're good
Check u. damage
Bro, I have put you in the fucking fields, man
And right into the fucking fray, you have had max up time as possible and you are doing half the damage, throwing it out there.
All right, here we go. We should all be up here, grave yard camping. I want to see dots on dots. Let me heal everybody.
Let me get y'all up so you can manage that.
And
that they were so, um,
motherfuckers were starving over here.
I'm already human, but I can do.
to
track track would actually be high value in the right
I
and
I feel like I didn't get to really enjoy
the 14 warlock BG that game at all
we didn't even have a fight mid, let's do it again
more dots
I want to see four rows of dots minimum on one person, see how that plays out
but we'll inform you that we will you're on farm bro
you ain't doing no pump but you can defend you can say the rate
how many of them are rocking shadow fury
what's the what's the best spec for Warlock and PvP I keep seeing different stuff
SL SL well that's TBC we're in pre-patch right now right you can't get SL SL
Siphon life or soul link. Demoloc SL. E. Gross. I've seen Deathstrow do some pump. Good gear is
dash row otherwise affliction. 14 POM pyromages. I don't know if I'll get all POM pyromages, but
I'll keep you in locks a bit. Let me go outside to work. Come do only somebody. That's
wants to see your damn. I know there's a tier 3 lock in here that's
deshrough, I think.
Fell hunter or fucking deep demonology, huh?
Oh, it's U-Wood. You're so trashy has to use that.
the
sky's also a doom guard
so is doom guard like the best for ubo dot okay still
chairbro
I want you to try and kill me cc and all do you gotta do
not let you fear me do's cast that shit what are you doing
are you draining my man uh he's how we're doing here
I'm completely tapped so I got
do I innovate here right let him have the kill I think I do
Oh god, what is this fucking pet resist?
Oh, how's John?
Good duel.
I'll take 15 gold.
Thank you.
Hell yeah.
That a Polish name?
Excellent.
Bro, what is your gear?
What is every green of the power communal, she is Louise.
Do better next time, all right, we're going to thank you 15 gold.
Nice.
I did 9 raids, no gear.
I'm lucky.
Other mage, you palm pyro.
Oops…
Let's go, everyone's giving me gold.
I'm fucking...I'm all about this…
I have…
Fuck yes.
Thank you, nor.
FYI,
I let's do it oversight.
This guy actually has gear.
Well.
Not good gear, but that's not bad.
It's PvP.
Let's see how this is.
Here's this.
I should stop doing damages.
the
being tree form would be very helpful here
the
I don't have an erupt bar.
That's why I need it.
Alright, let's get it.
So, same exact assignment, guys.
Except Uwu, you are now on farm on bitch duty.
Alright, tap it, sit there.
You can move up when things are looking good.
at your own discussion, but if you if they cap it, I'll be judging you immensely.
For read.
All right, let's check the alliance. Not a pre-made. They've got to be quaken in their little boots, though. See in us.
the
all right, but for everybody
how is there no group of the ones that's insane to me
how should you get gear you should wait until TBC launches or do BG's honestly BG's are a play if you really care
hit the valley in AFK
of the pets no I don't think I will
How do I show pads?
Oh no.
Oh shit my chair lowers big time.
I just got short as fuck. Oh my god, I feel like I'm that little kid at a desk right now. Uh-oh, oh no
All right, make sure all good. Everything's good
good. Nope, they're horrified. They're just running. Blacksmith is a joke. Knox, we're
locked. Jumping down here. Yix at Lumbermill, they're getting kind of fucked. I could
I'd recommend going there next.
Alright gold mines done.
Lumber mills the next place.
Assuming y'all win a blacksmith.
Some people are stables too.
We should attack both at the same time.
You guys from blacksmith go lumber mill.
I'll go stables with us.
And we'll just attack there.
It's going to be fucked at Sables.
We're probably going to get cooked.
It's fine.
Keep him here.
We're keeping him from Lumbernell while we cap it.
the
I need to innovate myself
from getting my person
who
a die. Fuck it, I ain't a bit.
Alright, we got him five cats.
All right, now keep them here.
Few gold mine.
Oversight said a few gold mine.
Yeah, gold mine's a problem.
Gold mine's a problem.
Got a huge problem.
More of an issue is going to be.
People coming up from the top.
Not everyone.
You all just keep keeping the gate.
We're good.
Isn't enough.
They're dead
Yeah, five cap. This is good. What's my honor right now? Almost 27k
Just go rain a fire their spawn. Yep
Push up to the spawn we got him five cap is gonna end real quick. There's no stop resin
Why do I feel like the game we have with the rogues is a little bit more real.
Maybe Warlocks are stronger, rogues kind of struggle with the platewares.
I'm not gay bear got him up got him up. I want to see some rose fucking strip throw it
Shit
That's rough
Let's game
two
to come on a little bit of pre-made and see how it plays out really do
I honestly think will lose versus a legit pre-made with like more than one healer
and like you know more than just warlock utility
I actually think we lose.
Again, it's a pre-made, all need to go blacksmith.
Do we?
I mean, I feel like I'm kind of setting everyone in already.
Healer can't heal if you way get spammed.
We have any UA Warlocks in our group.
I don't need you guys to respect the be fucked.
That only we have any UA, oh, dots is a UA lock, okay.
Well, that's one UA.
The Classic Plus does release soon, does it's only things?
Just do you only things on that?
I don't think classic plus what happened anytime soon.
Do you imagine how crazy there's nowhere?
There's no way.
I see 15 stuff.
I crits simultaneously.
Cool that the Rothfunk got billed.
You need to drill that for you.
Yeah.
I think classic plus fighting guess.
Let's just assume they are working on it right now.
They've got so much work to do.
I would guess, honestly, two years or more.
That's my guess.
And that's being pretty generous.
I got a pee.
You're a delusional?
Am I?
Okay.
if
You pop yet? No.
Okay.
Be lower my fucking monitor a bit.
Yeah, that's actually way better. Hell yeah, I should've had it like this before.
It wouldn't make sense since they are releasing TBC right now.
And now see I most every phase that expansion in classic plus remember the thing they
may want to release hardcore TPC.
We think they'll do a hardcore TPC server.
I mean if they do if they did it.
I mean fuck they really got to let me know so I can like do I delay only things at that point.
I'm already going to do only things like halfway through TBC, and then I probably want
to do the official hardcore server, right?
The only downside is I actually don't, I really want PVP involved in only things.
And like arena where you can die in these instant areas and your character is not actually
dead. Are you able to queue war song Golchik, etc. I really want that and only thanks
this time. So I feel like if they do the hardcore TBC server, they better make that
thing. Does that work with Soul of Iron Buff? Actually good question, does it?
Actually, don't know. Hardcore Walsh for PvE encounters? Yeah, it's shit.
I need someone to die in a, like, to queue worse on with Sol of Iron, and then die in
worse on.
Let me know if it carries over.
I actually need to know, you could just use the add-on.
Yeah, but Sol of Iron buff is a little better.
Like it's not, I do trust the add-on with track if someone died, but viewers are really like
all conspiracy theorists and they're going to assume everyone is cheating.
and that's gonna have an effect.
And it's all of iron you can't cheat, right?
Ag Jones, yeah, we wouldn't let any bag Jones
situations happen, but I don't.
I mean, people are skeptical as fuck.
Because they did cheat.
It's time out in last only vings.
Every single person that cheated got caught,
every single one, and exposed.
There was Jinji on his alt.
There was some random girl who cheated and bought like...
She's like a 50 viewer stream, right? I think.
Obviously, I'd curse shit wasn't no one cared. She's got G-Kicked.
And then there was...
Sequoisher, right?
That we know of?
They know what non-sheeted.
In Grayson, Grayson, well, Grayson's shooting all times.
You plan on doing more raids this week?
I need to know if I save my lockout.
I plan on doing a Q40 next week, minimum.
I don't maybe I'll try an ax again, but that was hard.
And doing that without Ampy?
I don't know, I have some tough shit going on.
I mean actually having gotten to see on P raid lead it, I think I could just copy literally
how he did it, um, it's kind of how everyone does it.
Worried about four horsemen organization.
Low Thab is also scary, but I get it now.
is raid callouts for good artists. I had a hard time counting to three.
Just reserve your badge for 8-40 please. I'll come tank whatever. Okay. All right.
PVP challenges each week to an extra lives on characters, not extra lives as if.
I don't know what to reward people for PVP events.
You just same dude saying you can't count your auto swing timer when you can't count to three.
I can fucking auto, I can, I can melee we've hunter without a weapon swing timer, I could.
I could. What I'd be better with a weapons and timer everyone would be. That's part of the rotation.
My issue is doing something not part of rotation at the same time literally counting to three.
I just forget what I'm fucking on. Two, my on three. Well,
Ampy is talking, talking about a thousand other things.
Fuck that. A warlock super OP is his pre-made full of locks. No man.
And I just queueed up and I just got 14 warlocks.
Checking the alliance side, not a pre-made.
Let's see if they try, though.
Hopefully they have some healers.
Same aside with this before.
Who's gonna grab that Zerker buff?
Okay.
Up.
No one grabbed it.
That's surprising.
the
all right
fucking dot them up baby
let's get them dots rockin' I want to see rose on rose on that hunter
dots more dots more dots
That's all the pump I wrote. I got you Doug.
I'm full rep.
Lumber mills good. All right, cool. Blacksmith is good too.
two of my couldn't you
damage done
mini brain the full tier three lock is clobbering
All right you guys go stables like oh farm
dot u-woo
What happened bro you just left farm huh?
that's crazy dog
my fault i got zirker and came out but i was late
bro
we capped it all we're good
capped that shit
you have to stay there now because there might be a stealthier something
and you got a one v one don't suck everyone else we're going stable just push up
ship.
Lumber mills getting some people to also mines.
We got a split evenly.
Guys, try and split evenly.
All right, Lumber mills fine.
gold mine is not so
it up a gold mine
also stables should get attacked we should do both
that's my fucking supreme powered
poor bro he's so dead
uh... some click that
c.c. on this patley
So happening.
Did someone's pet just level up, Niri?
the
all right we got them for cap guys it's just a stable's angle for sure if you can hang on
goes tables trying to go
There is nox warlock, there's.
Fuck it, this guy flashed too.
All right, it's a praying power, by the way.
All right, we're going to need some dots.
There's the blacksmith fight, lots of dots across the board here.
if you
if you guys put in that tremor total
if you just put it down
Just go, look at him, blue.
Shhhs.
Oh fuck.
I should have moved my knee to drink.
Let me just dump my region's here.
Shit, I can't drink. It's not ideal here.
lumber mill, what were three caps? Oh my god. We're trying to get greedy for a
five cap, but we're struggling here.
You try to bro. Rubsure was not a good call, you could have killed me.
I
We got him back three cats here
I almost have been to wait
I'm just so tapped and all my warlocks are low to
I can get inervates soon
Other fucker
the
year gold might need to get captured people want to go there
for still just find a stable's
the
coming in. This feels illegal. Uh, thing is, we're actually worse than a normal natural
pre-made.
Number mill one. Can you win Typhus? You typed it after your dead. Uh-oh. Can you get there
you're not. I can you stop and capping. All right, you're good.
I'm jumping down, scarum. I think you got it. I should have fucking healed you if my
I bad, I'm gonna do it.
Oh my god, I could have had you alive.
I just got greedy.
Gonna need help over here.
Days, the fuck dead.
I never watch you, but Laltar the one said you guys
are starting wow up again.
In a while, bro.
Only fangs isn't for a couple months.
All right, we got a four-cap. It's a gold-mind angle. I'm gonna need some people have to say stables not everyone
But I do need people to come over to gold-mind if we're gonna get this
That's enough. Just that's where we're going to go. This is it
the
one of them had as have a two to think
you do have a druid running to you who would not but I know you can take them
wait farm is gone where are you dead three are here pay
mama wait who would not man they really want to elongate this huh you said to
link. You did. There's a shot in running to lumber mill right now and there's probably
a stealthy too. There's just running in a counterclockwise, no clockwise formation.
Yeah, there's a druid. Love that.
Ooh, that fear is juicy.
No!
Number mills good, so far. All right, they're five-capped, everyone.
To the fence
Lock them down
Bro, why don't you have an explanation point talents? I don't know man. I guess I just suck ass
All right, we're locks. That was GG's. All right, let's the next class.
Mages. All right, Mages only.
Send me a whisper. I prefer Palm Pyros, but I'll take whatever blizzards.
Lizards. Who made this next? Here we go. Rank 14 Frost. Okay. I'm going to be a little
iffy on gear. Again, if you have communal, don't bother. If you have a big mojo mask,
don't bother any mages to mage-only bg misb, which have like no gear, hot-stree-knack-skier-fuck-yeah.
Brother Maul, Palm Pyro guy, Midnight Club, right?
Warlord Gears find is on us it's all Warlord from the most part.
I'm full gear, I haven't shared it. Okay.
Need six more mages here.
It's a rathy basin. It's also the daily so you all should get your daily done.
Free honor.
5 more mages
Druid BG when probably after hunters
Imagine 14 BM hunters
Oh my god if I can lose it rank 14 fire mage, okay?
4 more
I know I have miss B20, okay so that means 3 more mages
and
curious what's back everybody's
when the palace I don't know if I can get a full rate of gear palies
Be all communal, be awful.
Oh shit, now people are with you, me.
Alright, we're full, where do I miss being a guy out of their fucking A.B.
Let's see some gear here, mid-night club.
We got room for one.
It's fine, you have two pieces of communal, but you're pretty good enough.
This guy is in full tier. Oh my god. What's better you? Frost, okay.
Yod. Bring the falling god, turtle flame.
You're wearing ring of the eternal flame and you're playing Frost. Are you on crack?
Ah, there's the swap.
and
MQG though, love that
oh black blizzard legs, this guy got lucky
I didn't know if let's go fuck it
but they're not in the right, oh, whoops, leave
Honestly, miss bees gear considering they were like two days ago. They were legit in whites and like greens and communal and
They said they haven't shot in two days so they got gear now
Why aren't they giving you gold after glazing the gear? I don't know we are right
One of your mages joined a BG bro this dead to dead
Okay, we got a replace
Your a sheep
already in a group and buy to them
I'm looking late, Kurtz.
I think just AFK, oh, there we go.
You're in a group already.
Leave your group.
We're trolling here.
I'm not in a group, it must be bugged.
already in a group invited into a log out can bug it out are you kidding me how do you
fix that. He needs to reload. You got to reload, Doug. Log out, log in. Watch his gear
be shit and fucking might be.
Oh, is this V here yet? Can I inspect them?
Now, there's cowards. They're scared.
There we go. Invited.
All right, we're kid up. How's your gear? My gear's pretty good. Pretty gosh darn good
Bro
I mean freezing band
communal neck
Frost, Rath, Cloak, Devout, Belt, I mean, we got the Warsaw Enlist, we got a lot of
PVP pieces, oh, Spirit Trout Lakes. Alright, we'll let you in. Double, oh, communal fucking
Trinket to God, that's ugly. You're close to the chess piece. Alright, that
to say they actually need the honor to yeah fine yeah my gear is three piece pvp I got
the ice-lock cord from a q40. Confume my pants are probably my worst piece they're
fucking level 59 from MC Kvp boots pure elementium band from bwl
I've got a lot of counterizing from BMC, ZG Trinket.
I got the Kthoon healing base from 8Q40.
I got a Nax Ram is offhand from a noob.
My wrists are also terrible.
From ZG.
Tier 2 chest.
I got the cloak from BWL.
I got the necklace off of twins, PvP, shoulders, and I have
Don Rego Barto's helmet from EQ.
Again, the biggest pieces that I really need to get replaced are my pants and my wrists.
And then, of course, all Nax gear is better, but Nax gear is just tough to get.
the
on being savics are a max how are they in
acts again weren't they didn't they just
clear it this week what
how is he in acts again
different character what a psycho
that's a call your name on clearly
ice
night off priest or I mean I think one
of them
I just need something
I'm just not flasked.
Okay, I think they're not going for a full clear.
They're going for like four out of the scene.
We'll just get sent out hot on clearly ice right before the full timer
get inspiration on them.
Wait, they're on low thab.
And then they're on top.
They're going to try and low thab?
Big monster.
Watch your threat at the beginning.
Okay, watch your threat at the beginning.
Well, it's your left just a little bit clearly ice to the left and back.
Back up, back up, back up.
Heels are like all scattered all that tank believe a heel cowbell's heel
He doesn't even have the old dead. Okay. He's dead. All right, wipe it up
That's too old this may just see how this goes
Actually horrified a maged him
of
all fire
the
Jesus Christ that damn. God. That is some horrifying damage. One fireball and I have to
NS. Kind of damn his brother Malhav. But he's the AQ geared match. Damn he's got
Ryan covered mantle, got some shitty pieces for sure, tier 3 ring.
This guy's frost, okay.
You!
I'm home!
I'm home.
Zug.
Oh, crit.
All right, join up, gamers.
I'm all.
to
the one in the late
and I get some water and food
okay
uh... they are not a pre-made
holy shit
what a crazy thing to see all the major in the gay kid
all right let's put this up appropriately uh... missbee
your own farm your defending life is hard suck at
uh...
Lumbermill, let's send, you're a sheep, and let's send,
Zeville, you guys are going, Lumbermill.
Goldmine, we're gonna send mods, mods, and
L. L. L.
Yeah, y'all are going a gold mine.
Uh, L. L. Pate, you're on perm a defend duty. We're not perm a butt. Your own discretion. You're the last to leave at lumber mill. We're going to have.
Uh, who's the one I sent in? Mods, TM or Mods M.
you leave at your discretion, but you're defending.
And then everyone else blacks with.
And then from there, our goal is to try and shove them to that gate.
And then five cap.
All right, I want to see some novice.
I want to see some pets and some pom-piro meatballs
from every firemaid here, instantly.
I'm saying we got fire mage is not palm pyro, okay.
No zirka buff set.
Only one person needs to be defending farm.
Oh, there they're cooked.
Okay, I'm using Blink in you psycho path.
Then I fucking blink in.
Cloberum.
Jesus.
Fucking were killing their pets.
This from natural AOE.
All right, cap it.
Stables. This might be the strongest con.
How are we doing on the other, the sides?
and
the
modzems capping that okay
you're a sheep. I don't know if you're capping it or not. Three lumber mill. We need some help lumber mill.
Drunk and brother mall. Can y'all go there?
to
keep lasting
the
K.
3-capped right now, cap this
off shit, CC
I know
That roaks an open on me.
Holy fuck.
Try and get them for a cap or fucking them over at Stable still.
to
Austria's so tapped
whoops
oh i just got clobbered out
peekaboo x was her means i'd use suck is that peekaboo i don't know is characters name
that
man lumber mill struggling here
that's him this guy logged in said you suck in law isn't it bedtime for him
what's he doing
Alright, we got him 4-capped. Hell yeah. Stables.
He isn't even live. Dude, what a weirdo. Log into a while while fucking not streaming.
This guy actually liked the game. That's weird.
But he's logging in to shit on me.
We got to hit up Stables. Throw, road fighting is okay.
I'm
Why am I dying here
and
it's a signals and shot in the bro
is actually crazy like a big group up here I'm I'm
when you do group up we got a clobber here is tough
skip
I tried real
All the buttons I can press I'm done.
Guys, we're getting pushed up to blacks with by them.
Here we go. We're all here now. A lot of y'all have a man at its game time.
the
off ship
the property potter lives got like two or three
one of our pumpers
Let's check damage done.
Hot streak is top, big time, 10 killing blows.
I thought I'm not going to do this.
I'll be honest, our can't explosion build might be this year.
There's just so many of them.
Pretty snowkater.
I think there's a hundred blacks myth.
You good Snokatana?
Hey got Blacksmith, he got fuck.
Snokatana with that hunter.
Looks like Drunk Twink is there with him.
So maybe they can get it kill that hunter cap the base and we hold them at the fence
Please don't let them res blacks myth
They're gonna res blacks myth. It's gonna be rough
Hold what we can at the fence here
I think we're good we're fence gaming now
You're getting Viper's time like crazy.
Or that communal row, going almost as one tap me.
Ambush isn't sane.
Okay, GG, we did it.
the
big parsing
65K from a hot streak brother malls up there too with a melgar
yeah big gap there
man so those are the gates coming play against my entire life my name is gay kiddie so that lines up
it's cute one more with mages
Uno-Mos, same shit.
Next time you should call out 14 sheep targets.
Dude, I don't know if I can.
Maybe I could do it like I'll just read their name
and I'll put person next to person.
And if you happen to be within their range, you just poly them.
the
problem is going to be blast waving and breaking everything
zero gcd on shuttle set no
but a few shadow step in ambush
I mean if you don't kill him there once you see in your cooked
Next, do shamans next?
I don't know if I'll get 14 shamans though, that's a tough one.
And do I get an enhancement or do I get Ellie?
I feel like they're different classes, right?
Ellie, I just don't think I'm going to find 14 Ellie shamans.
Why?
Because it's, it, we'll see, I'll try after this.
We'll go have a drink.
I'll be right back.
Who whispered me?
You
I'm gonna start playing.
Who is doing me?
age
MQG huh
oh it's gonna hurt
Yes, I was going to hurt God
Ooh, big or is this love that out?
that's dual
no mQG
so hard to kill him though
Oh fuck.
Oh!
Close.
God, the fucking burst is ridiculous.
Starfire?
Don't crit.
Ooh, good try.
Oh, I damaged.
Like I held CS for 10 years. Actually almost got me because of that.
You fixed the Paggle Adam. Did you? Did you? Did you in my discord? Well hold on.
In general?
Where'd you link it, bro?
In Wild Talk?
Checking?
General livestream discussion react podcast. Where the fuck is Wild Talk? Oh, there it is.
and
he actually fixed it
I
didn't know that
would be
I'll make a PC
world of warcraft
Okay, a little manual install, let's see.
Oh my god 13 traces you watch a lot of YouTube shorts don't you?
and
and you see my bags what
same same assignments guys
That's real beat for us right?
They have 600 gold.
It's got viewers trading.
It's a me out of nowhere.
First time besides, Drung is actually in this group, Drung Twink.
I give him a gold ever.
It's your fucking sucks. I'd kick him if he wasn't giving me money.
Oh my god the neighbors are away. I can hear him.
All right, do some AOE here gamers, are we going to get some pre-made checking?
No, it in there.
You can probably more stuff if you want, but I'm care.
Oh.
Oh, hard casting instantly.
I
We're gonna win blacksmith no problem. I just start splitting this up more like this many people blacksmith
This is not necessary. Let's go gold mines
Someone cap that shit
What do we got down here? Oh
Got you dog.
Now you're gonna let him stealth.
All right, we got the gold mine for sure here.
Ah, wait, do we just lose blacksmith?
How?
a fuck.
They let one person cap. There was a rogue stealth. Oh, I see. Well, y'all get blacksmith.
We've got Limer Mill. All right. It's a stable single. Push up. Don't let him pass you.
I would definitely say you guys don't push up from defending your base. These robes are stealthy.
I would also stay far away because I don't know if you are going to get sacked in capping.
I guess you can block it.
But I feel like something we are going to fuck that up.
Try.
There's a rogue that stealth. She might come gold mine. So, get ready for that.
and
I have a lot of surprises to play
the
LM has six
yet a big fight up there I'm coming up to lumber mill now I was can say you guys can say
tables every one of them will stay where they are I'm coming to heal it should be enough
one mind can you deal with it mods a rogue
Uh-oh, I see your blinded.
All right, I'm here, gamers.
Okay, mods is down. Someone's got to go help mods.
You died to the rogue.
We're good.
My god.
5.5
How many AB marks do I have?
Oh my god, I'm almost done with AB.
I actually have a hundred marks here.
Ooh, money?
Well, thank you, I'm quick.
I'll read that.
Keep drinking alcohol, bro. It's good for you.
that's time you got drunk
no, I don't get drunk for you
okay gamers, well done, mages
so
Ellie Shaman's
Ozzy's bank all
Yo, I'm quitting night's layer. You can kick rocks keep your money. You'll come back
Ellie shaman's only Ellie shaman's anyone playing an Ellie shaman. Some guys that I'm retarded for thinking I can't get 14 Ellie shaman's out of my stream
I want to see if I'm fucking slow and stupid. Goon's streak. Cool.
That's one
Peanuts man, let's go bang, that's two.
Okay, good birdie.
We got three.
Ellie Shaman's.
Hmm, thunder balls, it's four. I can bring my shaman, he's Ellie Offspeck, and
he'llighgeard. I mean dude, I'm he'llighgeard, and I play balance, it's fun. If it's really
good resto gear as long as you spec alley you're an alley-shaman.
Alright we're getting some. Let's do a gear checks in the Valley of Honor.
Gear checks in Valley of Honor. Making sure we're actually alley here.
Let me come in and hands, no.
Removed.
Okay, we need seven more.
You ever do a more fias?
No.
But I've seen as YouTube shorts.
through it for sure does a really, really stupid.
It's actually probably the dumbest, mere match, dual, in classic.
Where's the rogue?
So what happens?
If you're, I mean, obviously, one at a time,
but a feral droid.
If you're both playing the PvP's back of like Balanced Resto,
It is more mana efficient to heal, right?
So what you do is you want the other druid to just spam like wrath and star fire and you just sit there and heal through it.
You're going to save more mana.
Or you could go cat form, which could save a lot of mana, right?
But if they do that, you just hibernate them.
So you don't want to go cat form or bear form, you don't want to cast wrath or star fire.
So, what you end up doing is you actually just sit there out of form, may laying each other.
That is the optimal way to do another resserger and as a resserger would.
You don't want to dot them. If you moonfire insects warm, now they can go cat form and they can like do damage and cat and get good value for their mana.
It's really insanely stupid.
LE Pre-Ray Gear, except right for do it, okay?
I only need three more.
LE Shaman's only, Valley of Honor for Gearchecks.
Invite Goonlips, Goonlips.
Oh shit, my man.
This guy's level one, remove.
Oh, no, ma'am, okay, it looks like I got it.
Valley of Honor.
We're doing talent
and gear checks, peanut man.
Valley, love it.
Let me check the rest of your gear. You're looking like you got an AQ.
Oh, yeah, you're having a real good time.
For Dr. Vination Jim, ZG Trinket, fucking perfect, love it.
I'm lucky, Crude.
Zoomow.
It's kind of tough to gear as an Ellie Shaman,
considering the rank 14 years, like not even that great.
Like it's the edge strength, I don't know what you need that for, but hey, you're good enough, fuck it.
Coder, good enough, I'll take that.
No to him or wrath, I guess you don't really need it.
all right
fucking band of sulfur's
primalist band this is a clearly everyone's alt speck
just random pieces that people didn't need a look up ticket for Ellie
okay goon lips is probably going to clobber
Everyone's are best though. They're all just in healing here. Thunder balls.
You got some tier one communal. Oh my god.
No shield. Fuck it. Let's queue it up. Oh, we're missing one. Need one shaman.
And Ellie, is this the guy that I kicked?
No one, all right, Rochi says geared Ellie, do I believe that?
the
who do I kick
full earth fury caught rising
or a stone hammer
to your 2.5 degree yeah 2.5 is great year for this
uh... why is this hex guy just not here where is he at
Take the person with communal who the fuck was it again? I don't remember
It was them they have communal a little bit here and there
Yeah, all right, I think we got to kick them thunder balls has to go
I wrote she pumper.
Alright, I'm just gonna zoom her, Ellie.
Do it up.
Get it.
the
guy named doctor doom
change lightening at blacksmith it's gonna be crazy
is it worth pre-mitting at 59
I don't know. I don't know what's optimal if you just freshly boost as a non-streamer.
What is the best way to do things?
Well, I'll go, yeah.
You definitely do a v-word song before 60.
Why a v-word 60?
Once you still go against 60s, in A, B, at least.
It's a terrible spawn here.
Trying to get that green down there.
Woof.
Nice to bed.
That was horrible.
That's horrible.
Let me shot Slaft.
Six.
I'm trying to get a full clear here, but I need to get down there.
Okay, fuck you go over there.
Shit.
You
There we go.
and
some inches perj my hearts and
basically just shoved me to the end of a dual area
and cast two lightning bolts and it's over and I can't cast
because of her shock
Well that's all right who are my least geared people
Shep.
Alright, we're going to do a different split here, Raxos and Rich Van, you guys are going
number mill. I also with Rochi. And then we're going to send Stellar Subaru and Tony to
Goldmine. We're going to send... Who is my least geared person here?
Coder. Coder, you are going to cap farm and defend it. Everyone else is going blacksmith. And
But everyone that is going, um, lumber mill and gold mine, uh, I didn't assign you guys.
Um, but the least geared of you three is on defense duty.
Just all tab and watch the stream and just have it on your other monitor or something
while you defend.
And you can leave that base if it's safe at your own discussion if we're shoving them to
the gate, you're good to leave.
Why don't I have so many shaman students, pure R and G, I just queued up into this.
All right, we're not going to get a speed made here.
Number Mill Scary.
The lion's love is going to number Mill.
How cap this?
No, you get this counter, get it, cap it, fuck this, I need to catch up to these guys.
Pass the cinema, fucking camera, man, do you?
All right, I want to see some lightning bolts instantly start popping damage.
I see a bubble instantly.
Blocked peanut's down.
That's your dog, you're back.
It's a big fight here, actually.
How do that time so awkwardly?
The artist is getting blizzarded.
and
if we blasted enough
there's one lightning bolt as another lightning
okay they're dead
goodness
zapped
3Captier, Goldmine with Subaru needs some help.
Goldmine needs help. I'm going to go Goldmine.
Roachie come Goldmine with me.
Oh, they're going to Goldmine big guys. There's like six here.
We're going to need more people.
some of you guys at four arms got to run here uh... yet
it will be all right we'll see
zap him
the
of
the damage here
the
She wore a blacksmith. She always got a certain split in fuck. We lost lumber mill.
Tocks.
Blast him. We might be able to get this back. Their umus fuck.
It's kind of damn shadow, please. Ooh. Big lightning. Trying to get through that shield.
wants to fear, tremor that.
Exaps.
We are currently three-capped.
Hopefully I capped this, hopefully it don't rise.
Nice, we got it. Okay, lumber mill's good. It's just blacksmith.
Blacksmith in Stables, we got to go blacksmith and we can.
The Nating 5 dollars to this poor stream are so he could finally move out of his child to a bedroom smile.
Whatever bro, I'm fishing for a nagging here. A slow fall. Oh, no, I'm not getting it.
I'm not getting it. Oh, I should just ran bucket.
I
God
So late
Inc GM 3
I got a rogue here. I'm getting CCed
It's sacked off
I'm not okay. All right gamer
the
one
who big it called blood of this role should have been surrounded
to the city
the
fuck
guys we're gonna need some at a- the captain fucking cocks
and
that happening
trash
Let's kill this lock.
Let's go.
the
well, we've got them three-capped
to try and get LM and then we can
shove stables
and they're capping gold mine now, oh my god
that
we're struggling out here for sure that
They're gonna cap blacksmith we got a clobber in there
We stopped them all right let's shove stables now
hell. You were human, anyways, good. Now guys are poisoning cleansing these
poisons on y'all. I can't be getting them all. It's no way.
the fuck were you
they were actually fucked blacksmith by the way live is not good here
five going gold mine hit gold mine guys were honestly this is feeling like a
three-cap angle. Like they are out damaging us too. We're like priests. It's just owning.
Oh, they got it. Not good.
Goddamn.
I'm so dead.
Ow, we might fucking lose here.
We might fucking lose here.
Maybe not lose. I don't think we'll do that. There are three captains right now. We can hopefully get LM.
Jesus Christ, we are all goldmine.
Do we get the right fucking go help goldmine? I don't know.
I
go and heal everyone I guess I try but holy Christ there. Nice. We got to we got to
cap that real quick by his ice block camping. First them. First them. Good night.
and
keep them in combat maybe
now we're good we got it nice
three farm
yeah just a fend three guys we're just bouncing back and forth we're gonna try and hold this the best we can here
These guys are too talented and we're too shitty.
Oh, they're capping blacks with, by the way, they got it.
Guys, we got to get blacks with back.
That's unacceptable.
you.
Oh, this house is gone.
There is a road here.
Okay, there was a road here.
There was a major too.
Jesus.
All right, hang on to these.
I think they're going blacksmith hard.
Jesus, please everyone is getting zapped.
Shadow Priest is so geared I think.
the
OK, they got gold mine
definitely go my angle, let's go get it
I've done 1400s now I haven't done shaman's I've done major that done locks and it rogues
a lot of people go and farm to
bring more people farm
I
know we're fine farms fine. Surely I
Go heal at least
Just barely if farm needs help farms in need help bad
a
uh... maybe not
things are looking okay here
can we get this fucking pat off me
Hmm, maybe lumber mill angle.
We are a three-capped ATM.
Rogue Blacksmith help farms good.
Yeah, I think it's a lumber mill angle.
Let's go, Ellen.
Fuck it, Zugget.
We're a losing pre-made, it's sad and pathetic.
There is a paladin going farm, so two people might want to defend there.
I think I'm cappin' it right now.
Got it.
Nice.
Blacksmith sending to help here.
Big game.
...
the
its fucking pets bro
I
want
the drinker in that
whatever the fuck
three cats still were good
We have zero people at lumber mill, by the way.
Oh, we got stables.
Okay.
They're all stables.
Okay.
We're going to cap it.
It's fine.
We haven't three cap.
I said we're not really going to five cap this.
All right, we got to watch and call.
If you see people in L.M.,
Lumbermil, lots go in Lumbermil.
Meet him there.
He and that man has died.
Okay.
the
code or you might want to get some distance from that flag because you're just gonna get
saps and capped on
far away. Don't stand next to it like that.
Okay, LMs fine.
thing is I feel like I'm worthless even though I'm healing because I'm just healing
shaman that are um that are better off dying.
Uh yeah, Blacksmith is fucked, spit on it, oh god.
No way they got Blacksmith, what the fuck?
the
They're rising we got to keep killing
We lost lumber mill now. Oh, we're pork-apped crazy
Cap this and go holy fuck
the
damage done yet look at this warlock on their team's damage is doing a hundred and sixty
k he's doubling our top parcer
This is kind of how it goes.
That's a brutal CS on me there.
Good luck, Kirby. I can't.
the
kill these fuckers Jesus
three again. I think we win as long as we hold on to two from here.
Well, mine is nothing but stealth druids, that's fine.
Crazy.
Not Blacksmith, couple going farm like three.
Yeah, farm's getting a handful here, okay, big farm, big farm, there's another second
reinforcement pack coming in.
God, please keep fucking defending.
Poor rest of your wood.
All boomkins next.
that try I don't know if I'll find I said I couldn't find 14 Ellie shaman's but
I did sub par gear though
basically I actually found 14 Resto shaman's that have dual speck that's more so what I actually found
Blacksmith has some geared fuckers.
Is this guy the one doing damage he adds this warlock?
Doing so much damage everybody.
It's looking like a lumber mill, blacksmith angle, we're going to have to split evenly here.
Lumber Mill Blacksmith. I see a palian a warrior going there. And I see them just kind of hovering at this bridge.
Okay, now they're running around to farm. I think there is going on an adventure.
Yeah, a couple of farm.
and
it's like five farm here maybe four five
Okay, there they're dead.
Okay, let me say farm is safe.
Oh, sorry, you're in didn't see there.
Damn, they really fucking tried.
good for them. They actually had me scared like we'd actually lose a 15
man which is a bit I mean honestly getting not being able to 5 cap as a 15
man is it's it's fucking embarrassing crash out got 5 caped as a pre-made
that's that's crazy
the
uh
when's your priest comp priest comp
old re fucking vent shadow priest
the
She had cheeses, shocking, good streak, no, oh, I couldn't do it, tried.
wait, we're three caps.
What's my street? We have a lost. I mean again, I'm 15-man pre-made, and we shouldn't.
You ever lost a BG at 1990?
Absolutely, I have, it happens, bro.
Alright, well, Ellie Shaman's was an L, I'll be honest.
Appreciate y'all coming out, gamers.
What's the next class here?
Shaman's are cool, but they're only cool for that one fight at the beginning.
Then it was just trash.
Hunter, 14 hunters. Let's get some physical damage.
Hunter is whisper me. 14.
Hey, I'm doing gear checks. If you're not here in the Valley of Honor, I will kick you.
Goon Lips X, the fuck goon Lips is back.
Is everyone BM? Is that the spec everyone's playing?
Pretty sure it's the spec.
if you find better gear understand i will
hunters is me i've got room for three more
all right i'm a is that
should be fifteen
All right, dropping bombs, high-willed crossbow.
Oh, there was a communal piece here and there.
You can defend fully flacid.
Oh.
Eh, actually not horrible.
All right, goon lips.
Zinrock, high-willed straight sweeper, okay?
Isn't the crossbow a better?
Am I crazy?
Is all such a point?
Also do you point nine to the middle then?
Dual wheeled cleavors huh, okay. Not the two handers were better.
Jaggan's good.
Chillin.
Good enough.
put dragon stalker
good enough
damn this guy's at Ash Candy
alright we got a BWL game right here
nope you're good
dallyberry the only one in good on Gulips is good smirk I think
There we go. Nice, smart. Are you that dog? What are you doing by the pet trainer?
Training my pet. Okay, that's a remove.
Here we go. 14 hunters, cut up.
Could be leveling ravager. That's fine.
I'm inviting someone that's been in my raids before, so I need to kick someone.
You're always eating but I open up each stream I bet it's eating, checking.
Oh he's not showing anything but he's dead.
Then why being on max I did a kill, low-thubb?
I don't know they killed it, no.
Okay so they hit a wall.
Yeah, I didn't look like these people were all that geared.
So what's spec does everyone play? Let me look at sleepies.
Okay, we got a marksman hunter here.
Aim shot.
All right.
I've got in silencing shot quite a bit.
There's a BM hunter, okay.
MMM is best right now. Probably if you have gear, right? Unless you're terrible.
Well, this guy's name is Throat Gank. Thoughts?
BM is more fun. Is it? I've always found BM to be like not playing the game.
I personally think Survival is the coolest live or instinct and scatter traps, it's like a
C.C. Monster.
Marks is also cool.
In Rath.
That's pretty sick.
Fuck, who's that hunter that plays on like a re-internement?
And he's always like the highest rated.
Homer J.
I love watching those videos of the C.C.E. as it's gross.
being no counterattack and bypassing your fun drain drain this true its name is mom hits
dad we got icy weapon on mowgrain's might dueling a level 60 rogue winning mind you let's
dual them.
Jude on Druid for Alverse Resto.
You want to see the burst?
You know what?
Yeah, I kind of do.
You need to climb anyways, not me.
Get out here and fuck me up.
I'm ready for work.
I don't have a little bit of time though, that Q's gonna pop in like 3, 2, 1.
Imagine.
Who's got the most gear? He's fucking me the hardest here.
It's a BM hunter? I don't care who.
Sleepy's is out.
now sleepy's one of the fuck me up go ahead sleepy's
should I be annoying or try to heal through it
that fuck me up real
not inform or anything
personally
boy
cheese
god damn okay
Oh, that's a scatter into whatever the fuck.
Alright, do me, bro.
Okay, we're trapping eight.
We really like serpencing, don't we?
Hell no, oh, that Amshot was in melee, hello?
to serve a single scatterbro that is a second when you've done
there's no dead zone in tbc is there not
i mean i was in melee range bro
It's small. All right.
All right. Well, guys, all of y'all's here is damn near the same.
So it's just honestly look at the draw here.
Dallyberry, you're going to defend farm. You just got to sign to the worst job. Sorry, drop in bombs.
You're going to go LM with fully flacid.
Goonlips and gravy.
You are going to go two man gold mine.
Everyone else were going blacksmith.
We're doing it that way.
Let's see what we're going to get here.
Not a pre-made.
This is on my good vibes only playlist, by the way.
the
under your unbooting DMF
okay
you owe my god he actually is
shut the fuck up
oh I got a buff right
the
Sinestia, Toast, Kilo, someone named it, perhaps to me, in my World Warcraft experience, the most
and words I've read in game have been pet names on hunters.
So, serenum fact.
Nice, good.
All right hunters, make sure you got aim shot up.
Let's see how this plays out.
can work racial motherfuckers
oh my god
alright we got these three
I forgot these three, damn you guys just straight up dipped on gold mine both of you.
Are you kidding me?
Someone get back here and defend this blacksmith right now?
Get over there, Tyker.
Play it on to brain. You're no one's to fuck it, don't defend.
push up ghost animals screw it
so funny
typical
oh shit
I couldn't get you yet
to
how we not capture shit yet hello
all right hey show them to the gate don't let them through I want flares on flares
we're actually the you guys are the best class if they're on the side they are not getting out of here
Look.
God damn it.
From parsing.
Yeah, I can see that.
All right, we're AFK here.
Back up.
I don't want y'all shooting.
Let him live.
Just back up.
Keep flares and keep.
Just make sure you keep your traps down.
That's it.
I'll just cannot help but send in your ravage or I hope it dies, toast.
Who's pet is that?
Night's on, you fucking monkey?
Y'all, girl?
I'm watching the pets, guys.
I see what you're doing here.
It's not even, you're just all stupid.
Why haven't you called out individuals?
Everyone here's done.
Oh my god.
Oh nice one for one freezing trap when often it was on another hunter's pet.
You can't make it up.
I took all these pre-mates.
I'm telling you I'm just the band of rabbit fucking eight-year-old men.
There's rabbit animals, bro.
Psychopaths.
Let's kill again one more.
That's funny.
the
king control
no
14 rep palies. I don't know if they'd be very geared. Finding 14 psycho rep
paledance that I've been cuing and buying full rank 14 rep paly. Well, yours next
could do. Well, yours next. Them's got to geared. Let them go. Full tier three, by the
another one.
None of these apes have their pet start slash stop attack macro. No.
They do not.
How many AB marks do I have? 41 plus 55.
I'm almost done with my marks.
Then I just got to stop doing AB.
I
96. Wow
Alt-time
I don't want to make it all
How much honor?
Probably 30k, yeah 32.5 so I've got like 60k more honor to farm
if I really care. And then a lot of is AV. I only have 41 AV marks. 32 worse on
on Gulch, that's a painful one.
We're so easy if you have a good FC.
Yeah, if you pre-made it, which I probably will.
I'm hoping for like a worse on weekend or something.
and
worse on was last week was it
to that means it's going to be AV next week
but happens to marks they carry over and you can turn them in for honor or pieces of gear also require marks so
really the the most you can do to prep for TBC is farm honor. If you care about
PPP gear, that's like one of the few things that actually carries over and matters
right now. And there's some like swarm guard is really good, that trinket for make you
scare a brooch, make you is really good. The shoulder in chant from Nax is really good.
most everything else kind of gets replaced like uh we'll get a dungeon in your shadow
labyrinth like this one handed damage and healing 130 and that's 14 spoker that's a
fucking normal ass blue too.
She's that chest is good too.
I'm looking for something you can actually compare to like Nax gear.
Whatever here, the stalker's faint, but that's not even heroic. Here we go.
So end-bringer, here's a two-handed sword, 93.2 DPS, 93.2, then you go to Nax, KT, might have
met a fill, still better than that, 95.
But that was a blue, you're obviously going for an epic.
What he wrote gives a epic two-hander at the end.
Craft. Well, you also, yeah, right. I forgot you craft your weapons. Here's a chance.
So, what 108.6. So, that's when you're going to replace Max here.
and
it lasted decent amount you know you also can only run heroics once per day
and you got to be a little 70 and you got to have the reputation to run heroics
so that's a little aids
same as last game guys
GBH, you'll replace it in Cara.
Isn't Cara gonna be a while till you can do it?
When can you do Carasin?
Where you just need to be a little 70?
Two weeks.
Why is it two weeks?
There's a time gate?
Okay, I see.
It has to fly to its location.
That makes sense.
You got to tune to it.
I just don't know why it's two weeks.
I guess time-gated and some trip before.
And yeah, Karrasan's got a basically
majority of people's gear. Which I think is pretty sick. I love
carousine. 87.5 dagger off of arose.
Ceiling 348 from Night Bane. Funny. Aoteus is 300. But look at the stats. 55
spirit's fucking absurd. Oh my god wait 382 from this one-hander to this night
mainstaff sucks. Is it so awful? What?
some of that zirker buff who's the biggest parser
none of you
the
well you got this was a very nice song
I want to see some damage
we've fucking popped our work racial well dotted OK
This guy actually is parsing with a work ratio, that's, I don't want to heal you.
Fully flasks it's down.
I don't know where he died at, LM?
Okay.
All right, blacks with his cap.
You're going to go stables, I'm going to go LM.
OMG, you're going to defend.
You're defending blacks with Doug, sorry, live-sort.
and
it is a lot in limber mill
a lot
if you want to keep fucking sails of us find
Pfft
Fuck
All right, we capped it.
Oh, shit, I'm bad.
Nice, kill those guys there, and then to the fucking fence, guys, to the fence.
Once everyone's dead, and then we keep the flares down, don't let them through.
I want to see some freezing traps, frost traps, flares.
said he'll need you for you
to be that route
you have asked for the cheetah on you fucking monkey
while being attacked
thrown that out there
yet take that off all you have fucking dm or fucking df d whatever the fuck
fully world book will get in clobber with sheet of foreman
classic I am speed
oh shit I didn't see her low I bad dog
of
I was hoping we'd go over supreme aid not a single premaid today, man. It's crazy. I'll cue solo and I'll never get a game that isn't versus premaid and then I cue premaids and I don't get any
GG's hunters. GG's all right guys. I'm out of time. I gotta go. That's it from me today
Sony. Ooh, unlucky time
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tomorrow. Tomorrow's Tuesday. I may not be live Wednesday. I've got shit going on that day.
And I may not be live Thursday. I got shit going on in that day. But I will be back on Friday.
Crazy. Yeah.
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Last time you were gonna see this room. You're never seen it again. All right, GD's peace