you
I'm sorry.
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peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches, peaches, mouse.
All right, yo, sorry.
Louise I'm early oh my gosh because I got a lot to do today good morning all
right
All right level 69
Today is a long day of grinding should hit level 70 and then
From there, I don't know. I have a lot of mail too. I didn't get to play us today
Load up mugenics not today. No time
Oh
50 gold nice
500 gold for 20 chicken that's a fuck no angle. That's a return angle
Can auction house this?
A lot of leather. No one really wants to buy my next rambus trash. Why not? What the heck?
Staff of Jordan. Nice. We saw that.
What's this? This guy actually just mailed me his trash.
Let me get that G and vibrate. What?
Return.
Ooh, coil fang armaments instantly?
Fuck yes.
Vec, a steamy romance level.
Give this to your girl, set the mood for level 70 grinding.
You know what I mean?
He wants me to get 70 ASAP.
Nice, 10 more from this knockable. Oh my god.
My man.
That's 25 coil fang armaments, pretty much.
Mode of mana is sold stars sent a necklace
Just horrible oh he sent 50 more gold from drunk twink. All right plus 100 excellent. Oh
My god another 50 150 gold keeps wiping and sending bro
I'm gonna put this box house
Yeah, I need a lot of coil thing armaments they give 75 rep to scenario expedition I think
And I need to get exalted how much do they sell for? Wow, five or pretty much 450 per
So let's use some math here so it's 21 that let's assume you're revered right to go from
from revered to exalted it's 21,000 rep.
You get 75 per coil thing armament, so it's 280 needed.
Multiply that by 4.5.
It's 1,260 gold to buy exalted from revered.
Jeez.
Oh, let me look at other stuff.
I need to buy heavy cleft hoof.
Well, actually let's do armor, leather,
let's do 69 to 70.
And we'll do rare and above, let's do chest.
That's cheap.
200 gold for the chest.
It's not bad.
What about the legs?
180 gold, okay.
And the feet, I think are heavy cleft hoof, yep.
Oh, I can actually, yeah, 69.
90, so that's like what, 500 gold for the full heavy cleft hoof set.
Let me check the staff of Natural Fury.
2100 gold for that bad boy, goodness.
Man, that weapon is so good.
The thing about this weapon, because it reduces the mana cost of shape shifting by 200, you
actually use this weapon for the entirety of TBC as a feral in PVP, because you can
weapon swap in case you're um...
It'll probably go down in a week.
I'm not in any rush to buy this.
Let me see the two ring.
Yeah, that's not in the auction, that's right now.
Okay, let's get, let me look at Viki's gear.
This is gonna hurt.
Spell strike.
So Viki, oh wow.
So, 3400 gold per, she has to buy the helm and the pants.
Is frost fire in yet?
How does frost fire work?
What's it called?
Frost weave.
That's buying unpicked up, so she has to make it herself.
How do you get the patterns?
Frozen Shadowweave?
Huh.
The Classic Plus Community Results?
Oh yeah!
The Classic Plus Community Results did come in, you're right.
Oh shit, Agrin responded with eyeballs?
Whoa.
You never finished a survey?
I didn't.
But I got through the big chunks of it, truth be told.
Listen, I just thought it was a survey.
I woke up this morning and I saw everybody talking about classic plus survey.
This is a lot more than that, like what the heck?
Hmm, haven't we done this before?
It's a whole video.
Oh.
Me not that kind of orc.
You sent the results here?
Let's watch the video first and then I'll go through the results.
I've never seen a game community so desperate.
Super sick.
Ooh, uncovering Dalaran.
Project Classic Plus, baby.
And as of this video is recording,
we have 35,000 introduction surveys taken
with over 200,000 total surveys covering
every aspect of the game completed.
The surveys are still up, and that number
is steadily increasing, but I do
want to get into what we are seeing.
What the community thinks.
I think we all disagree here.
same. And what exactly classic plus is to us all. And while I can't tell you Blizzard has
officially noticed and said that they're watching really excited to announce that I guess we'll
save that for later. Just based off of my experience communicating with them. I know that they're
paying attention. They're completely there for the most part than modern players. You know,
can we as World of Warcraft do a bit of experimentation because we hear what they
want. What do they really want? And in some cases, they created it themselves like hardcore.
That's what we're aiming for. We're in a very exploratory space with classic. And we are listening.
Now, the next video in this series will be showcasing all the incredible pitches and ideas
that the community has created, as well as an absolutely exhaustive amount of ideas that
only and I have. But this little video is just the numbers. And oh, man, are they interesting.
Now, everything I'm about to talk about with this, I'm not saying nor
recommending Blizzard make Classic Plus by committee here.
While I do think a polling system is a great and much needed feature for future releases,
doing it this way with all the surveys being as long and exhausted as they are,
it's just not a great way to decide on everything.
But I do think it's very important to see how the community feels about a certain direction
and hopefully course correct on anything that they might read all that to avoid running the Titanic into an iceberg
Now, speaking of icebergs, let's talk the most surefire ways to screw up Classic Plus.
According to the community, out of over 35,000 individuals who answered, almost unanimously,
Everybody agrees that flying mounts
will ruin the class plus.
Good stuff, guys, I agree with you.
Now, everybody also agrees that the leveling pace
of the original game is just right,
with the majority agreeing to keep it the way it is.
Only 1.4% of respondents said that they'd rather skip leveling
and buy a boost.
So, Blizzard, if you're listening,
no boost fees, the leveling grease,
just keep it the way it was.
Mad season, this one's for you.
Now moving on to something I honestly found surprising,
a majority of players believe that Transmog is bad,
with 51.6% of players agreeing
that it should not be in the game.
I'm honestly surprised by this fall.
I hear a lot of data sheets about Transmog,
so this one was a pleasant surprise.
Now that we've seen what exactly Classic Plus
shouldn't change,
let's talk about what the community thinks should change.
While it's a bit mixed in how it should work, over 70% of respondents agree that
rated size should reduce from 40 somehow, with about half of those wanting the
season of discovery version of raids being tuned to 20, but allowing you to
bring more or a retail wow like version of flux rating, where the challenge
changes as you gain or lose raid members next.
Okay, hold on.
Reduce rate or required rate size to 20 and allow me to bring more than
20. Most people want that, huh?
Okay, so flex I actually hate that I'd rather keep the raids at 20. I don't like the I
Don't like
When you allow
Like more than 20 and it's like you can have 23 you can have 24 you can have 25
Because I feel like then it's like there's an optimal raid comp and you're supposed to bring 23
It's the perfect amount. It's the optimal amount
I get is that isn't that big of a deal? Maybe it's not
Maybe if you're average Joe, it's like if one person leaves the raid you can keep going. It's not a big deal. So I guess there's
Because I kind of like everything being
20 man, that's how it is. You have 19. Okay. Well the boss
Doesn't tone down on your binder
67% of people want dungeon finder
But only in that it helps to group you not
Teleport you to the dungeon now what confuses me here though is that 74% of people want summoning stones as well
Okay
74% of people want summoning stones
That's not very classic of you, but I also agree I think
Especially having played lately
Hopefully, most people who took the survey actually play the game.
This result makes me think they do actually play the game because the people who actually
play that aren't just speaking about their nostalgia of back in the day, they understand
that summoning in 2026 World of Warcraft, the reality of what happens.
It's not going to be like when you're a kid again, just to fuck up.
It's just bots.
That's what it will be, that's all they're going to be, it's bots, there's summons everywhere,
whatever.
That's the reality.
So yeah, just make summoning sounds.
I guess you're all okay with making two people travel there to summon the other three, which
de facto is the same as Dungeon Finder, kind of?
This was a weird result.
I think some of you are passenger princesses and are okay with that.
Now most of you like the idea of heroic dungeons or at least some version of it,
depending on how it's implemented.
Also, a majority of A's were-
Some of these questions were worded so fucking retarded.
They really were.
Like, because there's multiple choice
and the choices they gave you were all bad.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of AOE Looting,
but it's not a huge deal, fine.
AOE Looting is fine.
I mean, if you do the class survey,
over 70% of respondents think Retribution Paladin
needs major revamping.
God, there's so many ret paladins out there.
best class paladin while balance druid and protection paladin come up just behind
right let me see so yeah this looks about right but your hybrids should be all
at the top the demo warlock should be reworked SL is cringe as fuck
assassination rogue to arms wire affliction lock interesting sub rogue
resto druid dispreaced okay just needs a little out of that's really break free
of its vanilla shackles the biggest one on this list in my opinion 55% of
of respondents would prefer if GDP was not in Classic Plus.
If you look at the demographic data of people who answered that number initially, that number
drops to 49.5%, but separately for people that only labeled themselves as hard curators
and nothing else, that number swaps to 47.1% wanting GDP.
Interesting.
So your hardcore, like, all answers to GDKPs, so no for 5, yes, 44.
Interesting.
So the sweatier the player got, the more they were for GDKPs.
Like, GDKPs shouldn't be in Classic Plus initially.
But there is, again, kind of a reality that you have to confront.
And it's, you can hate people that buy gold and take it out on GDPs, but that's not, banning
GDPs doesn't stop people from buying gold, it just doesn't.
What it does, there's a couple things.
It gives your hardcore raiders a way to get bought gold without having to buy gold themselves.
And two, it kills pugs.
If you don't have GDKPs, what you get instead are basically people making pugs and they reserve
everything.
Everything's reserved.
Everything that's good is reserved.
This isn't a streamer thing, this is just how it works.
And that's what pugs, pugs are basically people getting carried.
That's what pugs are.
And that's also what GDKPs are, but a GDKP, they'll carry you, but they get paid.
But if you take away GDKPs, why would they carry you?
That's why they reserve everything.
And that's why you get, this is reserved, GDKP, yeah, less pugs happen by banning GDKPs.
But initially, with Classic Plus being hype and everything kind of being new, GDKPs,
keep them out, no problem.
If it really became a problem though, and it's like the pugs are awful or whatever,
I'd be for bringing it back.
Initially have it banned. I just find it a very interesting stat because I think it's the hardcore Raiders
And the people that really sweat and play the game a lot that actually understand how things work
Interesting stat with 41% saying they prefer not to have it. I'm not gonna editorialize this
But it's fascinating the last highlight here how it works for them is a slam dunk. Yeah, it's fair to
95% of the people who
They get that gold out of gdkp's the hardcore raiders the sweats you're right they get gold out of it
Answered so something like 32,000 or so people want to see dual spec implemented
Everyone has dual spec
I think this is a safe addition for classic plus and the community seems to agree
That's the no changes the changes and now the most debated topics that we can't get true Claire young
First up how this server rollout should occur now this one was all over the place with no option getting more than 30% of the vote
27% want one
One mega. Oh, yeah, this one was this was a stupid question. Just
One mega PVP server with faction balance and force and one mega PvE server with no faction balance enforcement
I'd like it if everything was on one big mega server with a fuck ton of layers
personally. I agree with that. This is the best. Because then you can queue with everyone.
Sure, there's a ton of layers, but you're still on the same server.
Oh, but then we think about latency.
Blizzard needs to join MrBeast's challenges, and they need to win an island,
and they got to put it in the middle of the world, in between everything.
Everyone has 100 MS no more no less 100 across the board. Okay
It's playable
Triple digit barely
Megapvp server and one but yeah, it one mega NA server one mega EU server
If you're on it in Australia, you can kick rocks. You got plenty of those to kick around this mega PvE server
24% want a condensed server list like in sod with further consolidation over time and then down from there in terms of options
It's super interesting seeing how split everybody is on this on the question of classic plus having new classes
43% do not want to see any new classes with 34% and 12%
wanting to see new classes in
Wow
35% of you actually trust the two devs to cook up a new class and for it to be fun, engaging,
and not make you want to rip your hair out.
Really?
That's baffling.
Some way.
Whether that be completely new classes or stuff that we've seen in retail already.
Now added up, that's 46% for new classes and 43% against.
The community is pretty split on this one.
And in terms of the server resetting every couple years, and I admit this question could
have been written a bit better, the community is also pretty split.
Some of you are down for fresh every so often, some never want to see it, and most are just
not sure, wanting to hold judgment.
Okay, so this is my biggest gripe.
I don't want classic, and I feel like the classic community will do this to themselves.
They will shove wow in this direction.
We're already here. We're basically playing a fucking loot extraction game, and we're
expecting the servers to wipe every year. That's ridiculous. This is why I hate
Transmog, but I think Transmog can like add things to do. It's just one of the
tens of thousands of things they should fucking add. They got to double down on
secondary professions. Everyone should have engineering. There's got to be some
type of prestige, but it has to be fun to actually do it. I think someone recommended
the survey. You can increase how quickly you fly on like griffins and wyverns. So if crossroads
to org is one minute, when you prestige, it might become 50 seconds and you can like
up it and whatever. And maybe small, minor things that are like not gameplay changing
immensely, but you know, fun to grind out and get progress your character. I just
don't want the servers to reset after a year.
And then, alright, let's do it again.
I know it's not RuneScape, and eventually, I think, with just naturally how
classic WoW progresses, it has to reset.
I mean, I just don't know how you make it.
Maybe it doesn't have to reset, but fuck.
Like, it's not RuneScape.
But holy fuck, we gotta beat somewhere in the middle here where you don't
expect to reset every fucking year.
To the point where if you're halfway through like let's say you're six months into TBC
I bet there's people that are like, ah, I'm not gonna play TBC. I already missed the beginning. There's no point
Like do because yeah, it's gonna be what a year before we're through every single phase so stretching that out is ideal
I don't know I just don't want classic plus to just be a one-year thing and cool servers done beat it done next
Reset them. Hurry up. I want to kill the first boss again
We've already like we outscaled the first boss by like seven raids already. Can you stop it? So
Either way, um
I don't want the servers to be reset, but yeah depends on a lot of factors
And they know how it's done. So this is just our initial findings
We've been building this data browser for everybody to use which right now you too
Oh, whoops, that better the community is also pretty split some of you are down for fresh every so often
You too can go check out. Do you want to see what the auction house gamers think about connecting all the auction houses?
boom
Go to hmm. All right, hold on
Let me go to see the results of myself bulbs linked it to me
What faction do you usually play I switch between both for the Alliance, whichever is bis for raid slash arena this expansion
Only 8% of you put whatever's this.
That's a lie.
That is a fucking lie.
And you know it.
The only excuse I could think is maybe it's snowballs.
So like some sweaty fuck picks a lion's, right?
And then you log in and you're like,
huh, it looks like everyone's playing alliance.
Yes, I'm playing that this time around, right?
But no, hold on.
Whatever my streamer is playing should be an option.
Yeah, I mean, that is a thing.
But like when Classic came out, I played Horde.
So many people picked Alliance because human does more damage
because of sword skill.
No, everyone here is a fucking liar either that or they're just they're not honest with themself
That's how I feel about this right here first question already pissed me off. What's next?
What class do you consider your main?
Wooyeer is at the top really
Really
Druid is number four really
Man Wooyeer and Paladin
That's crazy that Paladin is so high up there
But it's same with shaman, but it's only on one faction in classic. I
Guess is these are these aren't just classic players. These are wow players at this point, right?
Interesting how old are you?
Every day if I can wait
but
Why is it skipping that?
Why is it skipping how old you are?
There we go
31 to 36 I really hate that cutoff. I am 31 years old
Almost 32 but like why'd you have to make the cutoff there?
That's crazy you make me fucking oh wait no, no, I'm dumb I
Read that wrong
It's still yeah, I'm at the low end of that
66 to 70 70 plus zero
people who it's that's surprising no one put that there's 70 plus just to fuck
with them not even a single individual prefer not to say all right how often
why is it how often do you play wow each week every day if I can and more
Wow, this guy's are losers. What is your experience with the various iterations of vanilla classic check all that apply?
Okay, this guy I've never played wow
Okay, so 76% in 2019 classic relaunch classic anniversary sod
Really 68% he all did a season of discovery I was thinking of season of mastery
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense
Private server 54 or 55% in private servers. That's surprising. I
Mean these are like your giga wow sweats. These guys are fucking nerds
Just the process of getting on to a private server is like a couple hurdles
You do have to jump over and that would filter out. I would think a lot more
But in terms of this again, they're already going on to the survey to fill it out, so it makes sense. I guess 2004
What role do you usually play DPS Wow only 8% of the people play a tank, huh?
For a dungeon you need one tank per five players, so this is already pretty fucking skewed
It'd be great if 20% of the players played tank, but you wonder why it's fucking tough
All right, what region do you play from 51% or EU?
classic while's player base is I
Believe this wholeheartedly is bigger because of the private server scene
Has kept up the like older classic Wow
Size in general y'all you all your EU servers are over there or all private servers are in EU and it's like I play there with 300 ms
It's miserable
But it's yeah
Okay, which of the following labels ascribes you casual Raider 66 percent, okay
auction house gamer
transmog hunter
completionist
Hardcore Raider PvP player
Wow 39% of the people here said they're PvPers
Leveler
What is a leveler?
I mean everyone levels right like everyone does that so why is this even a I would describe myself as a leveler
All right
Alts I guess yeah
How like you to play classic plus
Who the fuck would put I don't plan to play it what and you're here
Would you pay a box fee for classic plus if so how much depends on what is shown slash promise. Yeah, of course
Unreal engine as graphics. Oh, this one's interesting. So number one through ten
Uh, fuck.
Unreal Engine S graphics, lighting, polygon count, etc.
Was one less?
I feel like ten would be like you heavily want it, right?
And then one is like you heavily don't want it.
I think I was like a three.
Okay, so most people don't want it.
Yeah, alright.
I was like, you know, maybe you can update some graphics here and there, but like
WoW's got that timeless feel Unreal Engine doesn't.
Modern WoW character models.
Hate it, I will quit the game.
Modern WoW character animations.
Hate them, I will quit the game.
Maybe a three.
Like you can polish the already existing classic WoW
animations, but don't.
I don't want to see like the whirlwind from Fury Warriors
and Retail with spam spinning.
Nothing fucking ridiculous like that
Modern wow spell effects
Again, you can make like when I cast wrath that that green ball that flies make it a little more sparky sure
But I shouldn't see that yellow beam from retail. What's it called like?
It's called wrath, but it's like yellow now, and it's redid. No
Like again like a three barely spry set up if anything leave it alone work on something else
And it looks like most people kind of agree. Some people are on the 10. In fact, it's second place.
Third place. A lot of people are in the five angle. They probably feel the same as me.
Some people just fuck off. Modern wow UI. Wow. Most people want a modern wow UI.
Okay. What is modern? I guess you look at retail wow and they like have those bars.
Like is is edit mode is this modern?
Classic UI is dog shit. I mean yeah, but like don't we have edit mode here now right?
Is this is this it because yeah, it's here and this is great. I don't it's a little buggy-wuggy, but
I would go with like a seven or an eight
Because I'm pretty sure a retail UI it even changes like your bars here
So you don't have these bars on the left and right like these over here instead
You have like the just the stacking bars bang bang bang bang and that's it
How would you like Blizzard to handle the server rollout, the one mega PVP server with
faction balance enforcement?
I already looked at that.
How would you feel if Classic Plus had an element of seasonal servers resetting every
couple years?
Yeah, it depends on a lot of factors.
Personally I don't want the servers to just be, I don't want to be playing a glorified
loot extractor.
Right?
I don't want to be going in with the mindset of I got to make sure I do all
of this before the servers are going to reset. That's already a huge turnoff. That would
turn you off halfway through, even, if you just are playing that way. I'd rather longevity.
How would you feel about layers in Classic Plus? Layers are fine. I mean, I get it.
Most people agree. Should the raid size be reduced from 40? We already read that.
Dungeon Fighter read that. Heroic Dungeons read that. Should there be rated PVE in Classic
Plus? Mythic Plus, Mage Tower, Prestige Levels, Level 60 Rating Leaderboards? Ooh, this is
a split. I mean, most people say yes. A lot of people say no. Classic Players hate
a challenge. Yeah, I guess they do. But like, the only way you make this game, or any game
fun, is you have to have a rating system. Something, a goal you're working towards more
than just cool. We killed the last boss. Guess I'm done. Like, that's it. The next
step is you would speedrun versus other guilds, or you're just clearing to help your friends
get gear I guess or you to get gear to go do what? Battlegrounds? Unrated? You gotta
have rating systems. Should there be rated PVP and Classic Plus? Damn! 60% say yes.
Thank god. Oh fuck. Thank god. Oh
I'm so happy people agree. Oh
I feel like sometimes I'd have to
explain like
such stupid things
Should aoe looting be implemented
Sure. Yeah, okay. I'm glad people agree with that. Why not whatever
What features of world buffs would you want to see in classic plus check all that apply?
World buffs don't belong in raids. No world buffs ever. Alternative sources of
world buffs, purchasable consumes like inside. Chronoboom, a lot of books want
to chronoboom. More varied world buffs, non-dispellable world buffs, weaker
world buffs, no opinion, no changes. Okay, the only thing that everyone here
can agree upon is something should be changed here except for 5% of the people. I mean,
world buffs suck. They're not that fun to try and go for. I can elaborate, but I don't
really care. How would you feel if Classic Plus trimmed the capabilities of add-ons and
I prefer my add-ons and week or is leave them alone
Hmm
I'd be happy to see them go just let me keep
Just let me keep my out of combat quality of life add-ons don't really care. I gotta see midnight
Have you ever tried learning the game from someone who's never played well Viki
I got my eyes were open big time when I got to level with her. She's an MMO player, but she never played well
But I just got to see how midnight is when they start trimming all the week auras and whatever
See how that goes
Should mount level requirements be lowered no should fly mounts no guild banks. Yes
people want achievements in classic plus 72%.
I'm glad people are realizing you gotta have these like,
they're not really cosmetic, but you need a rating system
for PVP, you're trying to get 2400.
You need to have, even in PVE, a rating system
for how fast your strath home clears are.
Like, what's your fastest strath home clear?
You need these things.
It adds something to work for and to do well.
How do you feel about adding transmog, transmog bad, transmog good?
I don't care, no opinion.
Should separated collections be implemented?
Yes.
Okay.
Good.
That adds a lot of longevity.
Let's go.
Should allow GKPs?
No.
Should the level cap be increased?
Depends how long after launch would have to see.
I agree with that answer.
Should Classic Plus have new zones?
Yes.
Please?
Okay.
Anywhere in Azeroth. Anywhere in Azeroth. Only did she make continents.
Alright. Quest items shouldn't take up bag space.
I think they should take up bag space.
Maybe not quest items. Like, hey, put out these fires and it gives you a fire extinguisher,
and then you turn the quest in, but like the fire extinguisher stays in your bags, and you're like,
you don't know if you're still using this.
But you should have like...
you should have things you can earn like a
a bag within a bag
so you know how runescape has the fishing barrel
you should have things like the fishing barrel
where you can you should have a potion belt
and this potion belt goes in your travelers backpack and it's like you
open it up a bag within a bag
they have a bunch of potions it only takes potions
uh... even like warlock should have like a soul gem bag
uh... like warlocks have to give up an entire bag slot that's ridiculous
They should lose one bag space, a bag within a bag.
And you can fit 32 soul gems in there.
I should have a Noggin' Fogger Elixir.
And these shouldn't be things that you're just given.
These are things you kind of have to go out of your way.
And honestly, you get kind of lucky.
Like it's a low drop chance.
Maybe not the Soul Bag for Warlocks,
but the Noggin' Fogger Elixir.
Maybe those mobs over here that you have to grind
and Teneris have a really low drop chance
to give you a Noggin' Fogger Bag or something
like that.
i don't know or maybe like every time you try to knock and fogger the tree of a
really small chance of getting a noggin fogger back
and a million different thing you've
of fishing belt
uh...
you can get a fucking cook bag
where all your cooked food you can take to raiders all in there
uh...
my opinion
should leveling be sped up now
should there be more class-specific quests
fifty-eight percent say yes
epic quest lines eighty five cents a s like rock dollar
which is falling best describes how you'd like to see changes in classic plus to
old rates
okay do all of the above plus add new bosses and areas with them i assume is
that the bottom so we read the all of the above
tune them as needed for any change in player power to keep the spirit of
original rate
add more complex last of the mechanics of the season mastery
slash she's in a discovery
okay so basically whatever
should there be new raids
should classic plus have a new playable races
new playable races that already exist in azeroth
new classes no
should new class or race less class combos be added
Yes, but only stuff within the lore that makes sense.
Undead Paladins?
Okay, most people agree that Horde should have Paladins, and the Alliance should have Shamans.
Human Hunter? Yeah.
Should classes be reworked? Some new spells that modernize ability rotations, rep out and just don't completely change them. Yeah.
Other following, what is most important change needed for Raid buffs in Classic Plus?
Raid buffs should be single cast raid wide.
Okay. Sure.
Should talent specs be reworked?
Somewhat, but with a light touch. Yeah.
Should a fourth new talent spec be added for classes?
Oh.
Most people say yes, but limit it to hybrid classes with roles that didn't get fleshed out.
Oh.
So they don't want feral druids anymore. You need to be a guardian druid.
Ugh, I don't like that.
I do not like that.
Like shaman tank you should be enhancement
That's cool
Yeah, I don't think it's cool. I think hybrid should be I
Think classic ferals should be able to off tank
Really well because they can still do really good damage plus they have dual spec, right?
That would fuck with PvP a lot like enhancement should be able to tank and they should add in the appropriate things to make enhancement viable as a tank
But you shouldn't give them the tank spec
No, you just put talent points that if you're a DPS enhancement shaman you ignore those town points
I think they already have some I think they have like increased chance to block with shield
And enhancement shaman's just don't take that
things like that I
I really don't like that some people hit yes, maybe because they don't really understand
What they're saying yes to or I guess I'm in the minority. It won't ruin the game
Should every speck be competitive in both PvE and PvP. Ooh
Not in most cases, but vanilla hybrid classes don't perform well in PvE outside of healing those classes could use some love
Okay
Hmm.
I think the way I felt about this question is I think I went with three-ish.
Yes, every spec should be viable in all scenarios, but not as strongly as that.
Like, mages are the kings of AoE.
Warlocks are going to be like right behind mages with AoE.
Feral Druids are just single target Andes.
But like, in PvP I'd rather it be kind of close, I guess.
like on a boss fight in raid it should be kind of close right I just I don't
know I I wouldn't three but it's not as strongly as that's worded everyone agrees
on dual-spec ship of new professions be added yes okay people care about
professions all right give drew a thrash no no you I kind of like when you know
So you have mechanics where there's a ton of AoE, ooh let's invite Beach Mouse.
And you like Enixia for example, you know how the whelps come in?
No one gives a fuck.
The whelps die so easily.
But imagine in Classic Plus these whelps are actually like a threat and you need to
have two mages that are in charge of AoEing the left and the right side and controlling
these whelps.
That gives the mage a job.
Only a mage can do it.
No other class can do it well, maybe a hunter with Frost Trap.
But again, just raid DPS-wise. DPSing the boss. They should be close.
The welps are a threat when you're in a shit group. Okay, well that's... there you go.
It's miserable to play with tanks with no AOE.
Well, Feral Druid's Swipe should be buffed. But it shouldn't be a matter of the Swipe
doesn't insane amount of damage it should just do more threat right
whoa and sure I guess you could have like not just mage's on left and right
side but tanks go there to hold aggro and then the mage's do the AOE damage
right or warlocks I was freaking getting my tailoring up and then wow head went
down. Oh. Let me get a table really quick. This guy wants to make a table for food
water. We've absolutely abused that. If you guys have any coil thing armaments,
let me know I needed a lot for Viki too
do you only carry 80? oh shit yeah I guess unique 80
where she had she's in the work yeah I need so much gold so Vicky didn't you
want a dungeon ooh I kind of did stream should we quest or should we start
doing steam vault runs for reputation at 69. SV rep runs. Alright, let's do some steam
vaults buff mages please nice sure normal regular steam vaults should I need to go
to org I need to buy my boots and stuff so I can actually tank somewhat I need
Healer any healers want to do steam vaults?
But can you tank I can take I have last right now
The real quit it's not heroic, but I definitely want to
Get a little defensive, you know, I need some heavy cleft hoof
All right, let's join the LFG bullshit
We're looking for dungeons, steam vaults.
We're looking for one more need healer SV rep runs list.
Damn, Resto shot me instantly.
Do you need netherweave bags I can make you?
I have 16 slaughters, I'm good.
What do you need scene vaults for?
My best weapons from there.
I need to get exalted.
So we need to get exalted Chetar for Vicky unless there's a better weapon for her.
Not Chetar.
Who is it again?
I think it's Lower City.
So that's a lot of shadow labs we got to run.
For me, I need Scenarian Expedition Exalted, the Earth Warden, 500 Armor, 39 Stam Defense,
and 24 Expertise.
Pretty good stuff.
It takes 10,000 years to get Exalted.
Unless y'all send me coil-faying armaments, all right, I got 24.
Need more.
Please?
How many do you need?
I did the math on it earlier, isn't it?
I think I need like 120.
21,000 divided by 75 280
So I need 280 total
The only way you get it is by running steam vaults they drop in the raid or the dungeon
That's a lot more than 120
I know and that's that's only if I'm revered. I'm not even revered yet
My I'm 6500 out of 12,000 probably like two or three runs four runs. I'll be revered
Yeah
Let's see here
Yeah, I need two people to summon me
Hopefully they can handle summons
Shaman is going to summon.
Okay, so we have a mage and we have a shaman gone. We're good.
Liz Bandy from buying gold, so now other people buy it and give it to you.
The only person I think giving me gold that I think buys gold is drunk twink.
But it's also a mage and they just sit in org all day selling portals
They gave me a hundred and fifty gold this morning if someone walked over and traded me five thousand gold
They are swiping and I would absolutely trade
Instantly, I'll take that gold
Unconfirmed blood money. I'll take it, but I don't get that. I'm not peekaboo peeka gets it. I don't
Crazy
So does that stand I don't get these things man
Where are y'all buy gold and give it to me I
Feel like I can actually get in trouble for saying
5k is like 300 bucks don't ask me how I know I mean you can look it up
Yeah, knockable is going you gave me some clothing armaments
It's because you'll quit playing in four weeks bullshit. I actually am stuck here, man
I just started doing invites for the the new only things discord
So go ahead and list that
This might be the only time I'm actually like confirmed locked to World of Warcraft because
only fangs bullshit.
Ampe is convinced, and I think a lot of other people that I trust their opinion on this,
they're convinced that heroics are not hardcore viable under any circumstance, which, alright,
I'm gonna go see it myself, but they really could be right.
Your cast with your brother was an awesome episode. How come he has a Texan accent and you don't?
Do I not have a Texan accent?
It might be because I'm online.
Like Biggie's lived in the UK for God knows how long she doesn't really have a UK accent and it's just kind of
Being online takes away accents. It just kind of does
Karazhan is probably easier than Heroics. Yeah, Ampy was recommending I ban Heroics.
Again, I'm gonna go see him myself and this is kind of why I got the only thing
3Discord going is so I can talk about stuff like that with, you know, people
who know their shit. I have to look at what gear and what what is taken away
by banning heroics or making them like a we just don't do heroics right just don't
do them they're not really worth it in hardcore because Kara's and gear is better
right let me buy my boots
badge equipment oh I mean yeah badge equipment's really important but I
I mean, it's also good content, you know, like the noobs can go in their first year
book, and they'll die, of course, but that's an actual legitimate no bullshit challenge
that they can opt into.
I think that's fine.
But you don't have to do them.
I might have to as a tank. Oh, I can run steam vaults normal get exalted. I have my
Have my weapon
Weren't heroics dumbed down no these are pre nerf
They're scary
All right, it's by these boots what sockets do I get do I gem agility?
People said I gem agility right I
I mean a lot of people say Stan, but I think agility is like the new meta
How much adji do you have I don't know
But I was told that agility is like I guess for threat you need agility
If you're really sweaty and you're playing with sweaty players you gem agility
That's what I was told and then you gem stamina for like noobs and surviving I guess. I don't know
Agility gives you dodge like it's it's better survivability. I think let me see
Delicate gem
75 gold per. Okay, let me see how much stamina is. Is it stormy? That's spell pen. Maybe
there's a cheap stamina one here. Fuck it. Speed nubes. Yeah, these are way cheaper.
go with those. Fuck em. What Enchant do I get as a Bear Tank on boost? Is there a 12
Stam Enchant? To be fair, Heavy Cleftooth is a mitigation set, so I should go deep
into just pure mitigation right?
Four speed?
One second, I need to get an inch in really quick.
Oh fuck eight large prismatic and eight primal earth okay 12 stamina boots
What does it require?
Teachers can place comments
Teachers oh here we go 12 arcane dust
How expensive is arcane dust? Oh, that's not bad
You don't have it? Oh.
Hey Soda, can you unban me? I only said I would kill Russell while you were in the discord
punishment room.
Does this guy have it?
Flask of fortification, the fuck? Thanks.
Crash out?
uh... sky
captain america
see if they do it uh...
right now it's
i can already invite me back
uh...
i don't know who's leader that group
uh... i'll see a helm what am i wearing a server this
to gold you big spender amin is a cheap inch and
so kick rocks
armor leather helmets to sixty eight to seventy
uh...
Wow, this shit's expensive.
Hmm.
Mask of Veiled Death.
Zero Stam on it. Pass.
Jesus, the Night Watchman. Fuck that.
Shouldies?
I
Got is expensive
Okay, I have a chest I'm gonna go heavy club to they got to invite me who's leader that group
Do you need anything from bonus actually mechanized later?
Attunement maybe we'll see
But can y'all invite me who's lead? I don't know who's lead of the group
Beaches lead. Okay. Well, she's AFK, then. She's gotta be.
Damn. Wait, this necklace of the beast is kind of good.
What necklace do you use as a tank typically 27 Sam 18 strength 18 agi 20 gold I feel like I should buy that
Natasha's choker has no stamp on it. I'm gonna buy that I genuinely think I'll end up using it
For real make sure you're defense capped. Yeah, I'm not first of all
Hi, I'm not even 70 yet heavy cleft of any chest and pants
All right, which one is team vaults I
Seem to know all right
Bears get defense cap from talents don't they I don't think they do I
I mean, survival of the fittest, there's a chance you'll be critiqued by 3%.
That flash gives you an extra 20 defense, does it, checking?
Ah, plus 10 defense, okay.
don't take defense you usually use or sill for some reason I don't know why
you can't buy the honor wrist the honor boots and the honor belt which packs do
any tremor here haven't done this I did I don't know we're all gonna learn here
except the quest don't miss quest what quest
Oh, hold on, oh, oh nice.
You like that name, Nick?
That's Beguzny.
That's my mod.
Hmm.
Love getting dodged.
Oh, it looks like they do fear here.
Let's go here.
We change this to healing done.
Here we go.
Let's see how a pull of three is.
this is fine right? Dude, Nick, I'm telling you right now, heroics are actually so hard
that most of the sweats are saying that the heroics are not hardcore compatible. So what
that means is if I'm gonna- ooh a fucking armament. If I'm gonna be tanking in only
fangs I'm gonna have to run some heroics I need a healer who is actually really
good oh my god this damage I'm taking which means I don't know if you can play
Paladin Nick you might need to play a rest or shaman
I don't think paladins are good at healing heroics
Oh, fuck, big pull here.
Did that taunt miss?
Fuck, I didn't kick that heal.
Alright, easy clears, love that.
of water. Move your fucking cam. Let's calm down. There you go. I have a little over 11,000 health.
Maybe I shouldn't be full clearing. Maybe I just zug bosses.
I don't know what's better rep per hour.
I remember these big bog overloads are really good rep.
Beating clap.
These are not heroics.
These are regular ass dungeons.
Keep in mind.
So, yeah, I am being fucking shut down.
I think it's probably better to do full clears, as long as the party gives me the armaments.
I don't know if they need them or not.
Like, see, she just got an armament. I'm sure she'll trade that to me.
How am I top damage as a bear tank is my class strong damage wise the fuck
Uh oh, that's a scary fear.
Oh, they're immune to frost?
What the fuck?
respect fire then, huh?
Okay.
Big bog overload.
Overlord.
What do you need the armaments for?
by weapons from here or from getting exalted with this place
Nice.
Now I wonder what the AoE pulls would look like in here if we were doing big AoE pulls.
I don't know if you could in here, right?
Jesus.
You can just need another major lock to help.
That's fine.
can get Beguzny his uh... actually what gear does Beguzny have? He already has the B
spool, oh he's already got shoulders and pants here. Isn't that what drops out of
steam vaults? Pants. And shoulders, yep, alright,
Unforged. You just need RAP. Oh, for the, uh, the Inchant, you gotta get revered.
I should stop wearing a PvE trinket, a PvP trinket.
That's my hit rating right now.
5.5%.
I think that's all I need, right?
You need 5% hit rating to hit people that are your level, and then it's plus 1% every
level they go above that. So I guess I need 6% for level 70s. Since I'm 69. I'm at 6.98.
Fuck it. Alright, we'll rock that hit ready
Okay, our first boss what does she drop again?
Healing Cape another chest
Healer yeah damage belt leather. Ooh a ring for Vicky. All right
You don't remember mechanics just Zug I think kill the ads I
Think that's a big part of it
Move out of that cloud.
If we were doing Kara Jimin we'd have to swim down there and do that bullshit but we
can do that at a time. Who gives a shit?
And I'm holding threat, ish.
You know?
Help the shaman.
Shaman's having a good time.
It's also pretty fucking geared by the way. This guy's in full 70 gear.
Oh, Shaman needs a tune? Oh. Let's go back and do it.
Alright, if he's going to do multiple runs, we'll just do it on the next run.
I should get way tankier when I get 70.
Is this spell in melee cleave at the same time?
Imagine not having an optimized group, is that weird?
Yeah, so far, like no one's died yet, none of us no mechanics, none of us really give
a shit.
One of yours, I think a gamer, I don't think anyone here is clueless.
But this is a non-heroic, easy, about the right difficulty that I'd want for hardcore.
But you can white if you overpull for sure, which we've almost done.
There's no mechanics with dam in most dungeons, yeah?
I mean same with classic, right?
And then we'll get to Heroics and yeah, Heroics might be a different story.
I don't know when I'll be geared enough to tank a Heroic.
I definitely would want Earth Warden.
I want all my thick hide, thick club tour for whatever.
I'd want... maybe an armor ring.
Hey, where do we go again?
Do we go right?
I think we go this way.
Did someone hit the machine at the first boss?
I didn't.
What machine?
Oh, another armament?
Nice.
All right, I may just gonna go do that, and we're down a player for a bit.
Ooh, do these slaves disappear after you kill the main guy?
Oh shit, I hope so, because I'm not going to get thrown on them.
They leaving?
Nice.
Slaves are good to kill, do they give rep?
Should we kill the slaves?
They do?
Oh, shit, maybe we blast the slaves then.
Alright, fuck is.
Pull a four here.
Let's see what kind of ref they give him.
It's 7-4-90.
Slaves are 12 each. Is that a lot? I feel like that's not.
It'd be good if we had like an AoE cleave here and we could pull all of them because
These are such basic mobs that just melee, right?
How much are these guys worth?
It's an AoE taunt if I've ever seen it.
Hey did you not get the mage water from the table?
Oh alright, I'll give you mine. I don't need it.
21 strength. Ooh, this is more armor. These gloves are better than mine. Those are an
upgrade. Crazy. There's a chat option to show rep games. I don't know if I want to see
it's gonna fuck my chat so hard
I mean where's the combat log settings other reputation let me turn that on
God, they're all just spamming heals.
Alright boss time.
Electrified net, huh?
Kill these mobs, don't let them repair too much.
Wow, male gloves.
I think there's only the last boss now now the door opens. I think right so we just backtrack
Do I have feral aggression on my build nope I do not
Probably should
Wait, I'm not even hold on. I'm not even tank build right now. This is my fucking DPS questing build. Hang on
Pull the lever, did someone pull it?
You just did?
I didn't know you had to do that.
I have to fucking redo all this shit here.
Healing touch here as well.
Alright.
Missing two town points?
Oh, I didn't even fucking put Mangle on my bar.
Yeah, I haven't used a spec for two levels, so...
I guess Feral Aggression just for the Demo Roar debuff, right?
Either that or Brutal Impact.
the parallel regression.
Alright, I've got 11.5k armor right now.
That's not bad.
I want to get stun and fear resist for dungeon spam.
Maybe you're right.
Yeah, fear and that can be really good.
aggression buffs every pull though
Ooh, more armaments. Make sure you're looting those.
Ooh, the orders from Lady Vash? Nice. That's the quest you need to make sure you grab that
off this corpse. That's the quest that enables you to turn in Quelfing armaments.
It's good that we got that.
Alright, I got big threat. Make sure we kill this cage.
Nice.
Alright.
Ooh, a primal nether.
Those are some fun, that's a fun chess piece, the fuck.
I mean just greed the nether everyone greed the nether oh fuck yeah plus nine
All right, it's right back
Damn frost fire robe, huh? It's made just in full tier three
No, don't greed
Maybe if you're in a group with randoms, so what's the quickest way out of here?
Not sure
I
How was gay kitty allowed
Got permission man special super unique permission. Where the fuck are we? This is not correct
This buff mages guy seems to know what's up we got to follow him
streamer read whispers I only need a revere for their hook so I'm down to
sit if you want another mage up to you bro if it's a waste of time I can get
another DPS easily anyone want to come do some steam vaults anyone need some
Some rep farming, mages or warlocks?
Send me a whisper.
Because we have a warlock or a hunter who's gonna sit.
GG's.
This guy's name is Lolly Licker.
I
Can tank if I can hard res the armaments this guy's on crack. What does he think this is?
70 lock we'll take lolly liquor. All right or 70 mage
Let's go summon this guy
Oh, they got him, all right
TY
Plus three nice, what am I at 40?
40 is not bad by the way. I only need 250 and that gets me all the way from revered to exalted.
So I'm already a fifth of the way there almost. Boy ran it once. That's pretty good.
But wait.
Are we in tank spec?
Yeah, we're in tank spec.
To be fair, the spec I was really isn't much different.
The only thing I really gained is Thickeye.
Or you could sell it and then beg for more.
I'll- this is my title.
You'll do the first pull. Alright.
If you mages want to be mages, go be mages. I won't stop you.
What does this guy have to sh- he's fucking going in VIZ?
All right, let's see what he does here go ahead, bro. Do I just sit and not heal for a bit? I'd imagine
He's gonna go and viz all the way to the back pull as much as he can and he's gonna like teleport back into us
He's trying to death grip all the mobs basically
Mark you with a star so I can see you. He's not in viz anymore. It looks like he's pulling
It's getting moon fired
All right, let's hit these two
Let these two group up oh hell he ice block and he died instantly
All right, let's get a little B res here. Maybe we can a a wee a little better
Kill this guy up so we can do some damn.
I'm gonna play goalie, just trying to keep them all grouped up, the ones that get away.
Yeah, I think I went in too early. I didn't think he was gonna block there. I thought
I was gonna walk through those mobs. Maybe it was my fault he died. Noice. Mages, by the
way. Does Shadow Priest not have any AOE? No, they don't. Not, not, who are the only
classes that have good AOE in TBC? Mage, Warlock. Does anything else have good AOE of like hitting
five targets or more? I don't think so. Warrior? Do warriors have good with sweeping strikes?
It's two targets but maybe that's a lot.
Haladin, I guess.
Kill this bog over, Lord.
Hunter, do Hunter set?
Explosive trap maybe?
Bolty shot?
I mean that's not spam-able, right?
It's just locks and mages, I feel like are the ones.
Nothing competes with those.
But I guess some classes have some AoE, but they're like...
That's not what they specialize in, really.
So our mages can't hit these adds, because they're immune to frost and whatnot.
12, wow.
I want to see how much rep these big guys give.
Yeah, let me put home the claw on your right.
Okay, these guys are giving...
What the fuck's the reputation? The hell?
They give 24, it's only, hmmm, feels a bit low for how tanky and hard these mobs are,
right?
It's the equivalent of killing two regular mobs.
These are definitely worth it then, yeah, you're right.
Especially with this group.
big annoying scary title surger.
They may do a big pull here.
Let's try it.
Pulling more.
Little A-Wee taunt.
They really like their nets.
I guess just greed these I
Keep hoping to find you in the open world naturally so I can attack you and get you killed just to know what it's like to
Face somebody that's good. Oh
That's kind of sweet maybe
Kind of
I'm hiding like a coward. Yeah, like a little bitch
And this poor shaman I did not let him drink at all
Shaman's dead.
The aunt is a terrible pull on my end.
I'm getting chain silenced out here too.
I gotta help heal here while he just kite.
Or maybe not.
Bye, bad.
Let's get mana.
Definitely pulled us.
I pulled it a bad time there.
Now I'm gonna go drag her pee.
Yeah, that's buff, everyone.
Have you ever consistently considered installing a microphone in your bathroom?
I hear you say I need a pee and I think what you mean is I want to pee and you could hold
off for a few minutes.
If we could hear the voice with you which you pissed, you could decide for ourselves
if you really needed to do it.
Okay so you want me to install a mic in the bathroom so you can hear whether or not my
flow is really heavy so that you can decipher whether I actually needed to pee or not based
on the power of the flow which you hear.
Interesting.
That's a sentence.
Let's kill the boss.
Support men's mental health.
Get serious out there.
Jeez!
I didn't have any threat on this bitch
Oh shit
Miss Perry dodge
It's the third parry in a row on my mango.
Ooh, Encanters gloves!
Do the mages need those?
I don't even know.
This guy already has them.
You pulled the lever?
Oh fuck, let me see the goddamn lever.
So I know what the hell I had to be clicking on.
Do you need those?
You can use them.
Kara Tune.
If the mage needed them, let the mage have them.
Babe, you'll get them like on the next pull.
Let the mage have them because they can actually utilize the set bonus.
And then you can just take them for stats later.
It's weird.
All the gear in dungeons in TBC, they're like,
They're like class-specific gear that anyone can use but you won't be able to utilize the set bonus
It's it's weird like that
Like I can wear rogue gear
But you know I won't be able to utilize set bonus
Still good stats though. So yeah, you'll get those gloves as soon as we have a mage that doesn't need them
Why don't you say bae instead of babe?
I don't know man.
It's kind of just the RNG of.
I actually was looking for Vicky in the house the other day.
I couldn't find her.
I was like saying bae babe where are you?
And then I said Vicky where are you?
And she took that like she thought I was mad at her because she's so not used to me
saying her name. Kind of like when you say someone's full name, like Thomas Jefferson
Chance Morris. What are you doing? Right? We're at that point where if I say her name
she thinks something is wrong. Not good, not healthy, not sure how to fix it from here.
I don't know I'll do a big pull here. All right. You got it
Let me innovate
Let me mage blizzard my block. Okay, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna wait till your ice blocks, bro
And then I'll wait for that blizzard to go off. I'm not doing a damn thing. I may have K
So the strategy is the mage pulls a fuck ton ice blocks and then the other aoe class aoe's
all the mobs on top of the ice block so that when the person ice blocks leaves you don't
have threat.
You don't get one tap like last time.
Okay, there's ice block now while he liquor wakes from the group up
Let him group up then you blizzard
Now he leaves. Oh hell
All right, I'll throw a hurricane in that
I guess I just kind of do healing right I help heal
I'm not going in there
Oh, I maybe now I go in
Huh
I've never felt so useless in my life do that in a hardcore absolutely not
That's not happening.
Yeah, imagine Cedar Corruption having a 70 warlock for that.
I was trying to explain Cedar Corruption to Vicky.
She wasn't understanding that I was like, Cedar Corruption can do unlimited damage.
Well, she was understanding, but it's literally unlimited damage.
The only thing that holds you back is yourself.
Do you want to pull everything in here?
It's not, it gets capped, does it?
Uh, not much of an AOE pull here, TBH.
I'll pull res after these.
Okay, well we gotta kill the slaves before we kill the slave masters, otherwise they
just reset. See they are evading. No we want to kill you! Unbelievable.
Okay.
Make sure you kill the slaves don't kill the slave masters. I'm gonna pull one of
them out if I can. Oh fuck he's dead.
Oh no it looks like we're good actually. They didn't reset. We're chilling.
Big rep farm.
They only reset the ones they are tethered to, which is why we killed the first two.
kind of stupid that the slaves give rep yeah it's weird almost revered getting
there. 2,000 more rep. It's like one more run after this I think.
There's a cat in here.
Oh, there is.
What do you give him, Max Rep?
Uh, I mean, I'm gonna be tanking Heroics, so I get my BIST weapon.
I need to get really tanky before I can tank Heroics.
So it's not just reputation I need as a tank. You need a lot of gear, I think.
lot of mitigation gear I'm gonna let you all kill the ads I can't fuck with them I
guess I can do some get them off the healer at least oh fucking hell
Heroic Steam Vaults or does Heroic Steam Vaults drop anything good for me?
I mean it's not just me, it's also for Viki, let's see.
Badges of Justice are good in general.
Let's see, first boss.
First boss looks like it drops the exact same things.
Second boss, healing weapon.
Terrible neck for me.
pants. Belt. Sash of... Yeah, this is really good for Viki maybe. Spell Dam and Hit Rating I guess.
Drop the pants. The healing pants.
Yeah, Heroic Steam Balls doesn't really do shit for us.
We can try it once we're revered.
I'm down for one run just for badges, right?
It's important.
Big pull.
All right, go ahead.
This is not good.
I'm already thinking of making a warlock.
You want to play a Santa Priest in Raid?
Not so much.
It's fun in Raid, but not so much dungeons, yeah.
Nothing is fun in dungeons unless you're a mage or a warlock or you run a melee cleave.
And you get like Wind Fury.
I'm just going to help heal.
I'm not going in on this.
Ellie Shamans are fun in dungeons, really?
Alright.
I think Vicky just likes being useful.
And Shadow Priest are probably one of the most useful classes in the game, but you just don't feel it.
You don't feel that usefulness.
Yeah, the Shaman says I feel it.
Yeah.
They're gonna find out what class you want to play babe because if you want to you know, stay shadow priests hell
Yeah, we'll get you full spell strike
But if you want to play a warlock getting two sets of spell strike is not in the realm of
Reality my viewers do not give me enough gold
I should go on a fucking rant about how y'all don't give me enough money get post on LSF
Get promotion or something. I don't know
Give me gold now
Step it up, man. I've been sure I've been doing steam vaults here for two hours
And I've only gotten maybe one person from crony mailing me
coil thing armaments
absurd
The economy is in shambles is it?
Isn't the economy like the best it's ever gonna be considering like the bots haven't taken over yet
Or is it fucked, I don't know
It's so expensive yeah, everything's expensive, but the bots haven't really like activated
They have to get level 70. They have to get epic flying. They've got to get epic flying on you know all of their characters
But maybe it's fucked from classic, you know?
It's not like a fresh gold wipe or anything.
People are boosting another storm and got banned because last night I was another storm
for nothing.
Wait, what?
What's up, Jilly?
When one of these mages steps out babe, we'll bring in a warlock and we'll see if you want
to play warlock based on what they do.
I don't know warlock very well.
ooh fuck and can't hear her shoulders too
okay bye I gotta go skin some dogs are you done motherfucker hold on lowly liquor
passed on the encounter shoulders do you need those buff mages if you do take
him if not viki's gonna need him guys run out wait Bolly liquor give me your
coil thing armaments she gonna have all right nice he left my coil thing armaments
I know he took some get back card
All right any warlocks
There was a warlock before want to do some steam vault runs RQ
70 lock all right nice summon your ass I got like 20 of them please mail he would
wish for me that that's creaky really for another class is one of the few times
priests had raid identity but I was just a drain I for the hit rating we're
I think Vicky wants to play a shadow priest, but wants the usefulness and like the the damage meter pump that Warlock has.
I don't think she likes the play style of Warlock.
lock. I definitely know she hates dealing with pets.
Hard for me to block pull without another mage or palli to take aggro off of block.
A lock would have to have shadow fury, huh?
Speck for demonic sacrifice. Well, she's also thinking about PvP, right?
Like, I started telling her what her job is as a warlock. She plays SL, SL, and I was explaining
that a lot of teams opt in to, you know, their kill target is your pet. And if they kill your
pet, you can instant summon it one time on a 10 minutes each. Like, stop, stop. I don't want
I don't want to play it anymore, okay?
She also asked what spec you play, like, I couldn't tell her, I don't know what spec you play in PvE is a lock.
All the specs seem like they have a situation to use them.
Like, what do you rate as?
Destro?
What about dungeons then? So you go deminology phase one. I read that
basically you don't have a lot of uptime on Gruul and Mac Theron's layer so it's
best to be deminology just throw your pet in on phase one rating. But what are
you playing Karazhan?
We heard a lot of no's, huh?
I don't know if this is true or not, but I feel like it could be the reality that y'all
look at the logs and the parses, of course Destro's always at the top because maybe
they get good RNG and you only see the warlocks that actually got to sit there and turret
for like five years
and you don't pay attention to warlocks that get fucked by mechanics
because you just look at the top
in grills and mags layer
could that be a reality?
no I played lock
that doesn't mean I gotta ask an actual warlock player
that I know
those what's up
the fuck do i ask
channel malls channels you pvc sweat i don't know if he is
who's a fucking pvc wet warlock that i know
poll
cheese and your dad
that's a beer as
i'm a my candy anymore
seated corruption is actually not doing that
it's going up now
There we go, there's the seeds. We gotta start poppin' the seeds here.
In silence.
Fuck.
Clean.
How gear does this lock?
Oh, we got some 70 gear.
It's so sketchy without the stun slash slow.
Yeah, that is sketch.
Yeah, maybe Earthbind would help a lot.
Shouldn't Warlock Shadow Fury run Ice Block?
I don't think this lock has Shadow Fury.
So I guess Shadow Fury is a really good like dungeon spec?
Destro?
That's fucking awesome if it is.
You don't spec Shadow Fury?
Really?
Not even for the utility?
Or even the damage in AoE farming?
is better than my weapon. Uh, it's close. Wow. In a full premade group I would, I would
imagine. What do you gain by not taking Shadow Fury? What do you gain? It's got to be something
in like the demonology tree or something.
Plus 15% damage.
Oh, how long does that 15% damage last for?
Just forever?
Hmm.
It's not 50% damage increase because you I guess for a we it probably is but you lose your imp
You could have your imp buffing your entire party with plus HP
Right here you're sacrificing your pets you by you also if you take shadow fury you also gain a pet right?
Imp specifically imp sucks. I mean the stamina itself is useful
Remember, you gain Shadow Fury. I don't know. Shadow Fury is crazy.
My point is, you don't just gain 15% damage. I mean on single target pulls, what is it? Probably like a 10% damage increase because you lose the pet that could be blasting single target.
And then the stamina goes a pretty long way too. It really does.
Damn, look at that seed damage!
Holy fuck!
Seeds!
I'm glad Viggy's seeing it, and what it does.
Well, I wish you'd be glad I want to re-roll.
Well, I think that's how much you have fun.
I don't know.
I just want to play a lot and play a lot.
Again, you're probably...
Your off-healing as a Shadow Priest plus your mana battery is really fucking useful
as hell.
It just doesn't feel as good.
And magic dispel is true. Yeah, you're the only one who can magic dispel here. Which means
you can have a wrestler shaman healer and not be like lacking in that. Kind of a big
deal. Special Shamans are like the best, you know, dungeon healer. Again, she doesn't
Everything feels good.
and take you can tank slave pens heroic I don't know I haven't done any heroics yet
Yeah, maybe I'll get some heroics in today
Maybe
Pull these guys over to
Spooky fear big dispells
Nice
We need some gear. Yeah, I know. My gear's horrible. I also need to be- I'm not gonna
I'm gonna use her road till I'm 70, fuck.
It's going to ignore the adds.
I can just kill him.
Yeah, for being level 69 and like having zero gear, your damage on a single target fight
there makes sense.
Once you get gear, you're pretty much going to keep up with these mages and locks.
It'll be slightly behind, but again, you're also a mana battery.
Not true.
If she's doing 80% of the damage, I think she'll do 80% of the damage of locks and
mages.
Absolutely.
What?
No way. I mean, I'm not saying she's gonna do more. I'm saying like 80% of it. What?
65 shadow preaches of support really I didn't know that away
Ahhhh!
Like, we can pull that into this.
I'm sure this will go fine.
Maybe we can get a CS on that caster out there.
Oh, I'm dead.
to
Just play.
My power just went out.
What?
How are you here?
What?
UPS plus a generator? What is this guy a fucking Last of Us survival motherfucker? Turned his generator on?
Hello?
Off-grid motherfucker
I live in the boonies. Oh shit, you're in the sticks. Alright. Fucking generator.
I see he can pull this guy. Hey, we can get him by himself? Oh. Kill the slaves first.
I'm gonna tank this guy out.
A.O.E. the slaves.
I don't want this guy dying.
Okay.
Nice.
Free at last, right before...
Unforged.
So what is a UPS? I actually don't even know what that is.
But that was a delivery service.
It's a battery backup, last normally about an hour.
It's a power supply that automatically kicks in.
I thought that's what the generator was, alright.
I see, so the generator doesn't kick in fast enough to lose service.
You've got like the combo.
That's sick.
You're a psychopath.
Oh hey, soda poppin' goes live in 17 minutes ago, crazy.
Nice.
God, that seed damage one-shots these lepers.
Holy fuck.
God!
God, yeah, it's gotta find the one seed and proc it, and just everything flops.
is going on here is not doing damn oh healing weapon actually if no one needs
that I will take that for innervate straight up that is a 46 spirit staff
That's pretty good.
All right.
That's an innervate staff.
Mmm.
Did we click the console? Fuck, I always forget.
They got it. All right.
Are you gonna heal it all anymore? No, I'm not.
You need like, you need a spirit weapon as a healer or as a feral, you need a healing
weapon as a feral, you need a staff of natural fury for power shifting, mana saving as a
a feral. You need a tank weapon is a feral. I do. These are my my autism things coming
in. She like eight different weapons you swap between. Is it true that spirit is asked for
Holy Paladin. I heard that. No, humblers are not a thing in TBC. Thank God.
How much damage till seeds proc?
Fuck, I'm trying to...
Is it a thousand damage they gotta take?
I don't even know.
1.2k.
I see a thousand forty four all right
and
More armaments, how many do I have now?
Oop, plus five.
Fifty-eight.
Okay.
We're pretty much revered.
This actually might do it.
How many do I need?
Well the farther into I need two hundred and fifty or is it 280? What was it again?
Is it a 250 or 280?
21,000 divided by 75 280, but that's going from revered all the way to exalted just a hundred percent through coil thing armaments
If I'm halfway through revered to exalted I only need a hundred and forty
I gotta check my mail. Maybe people mail me some clothing armaments. Oh
Moonglade shoulders, huh I
Mean this is really just
Blizzard had no idea what they were doing when it came to hybrids even in TBC. They're so clueless
Gotta go take the kid to the park. All right have fun, bro. We lost our shaman and we lost our mage
G to the Gs. Oh nice, yeah, give me those armaments. Yeah, do a port to chat. Need to
go sell and repair anyways. Any coil fang armaments? Any from you gamer? Please. Are you going to
sell them? I'll give them, I don't remember. You got any scarum? Got none? Alright, that's
fine. Alright well we need to get a new healer and a new DPS. Invite major
placement nice. Any healers for steam vaults?
or do I need to list us got any room in the guild no I'm down to heal okay we
We got a Resto Shaman, we're full.
Easy peasy.
Uh, I guess I'll head over to help summon a fly.
I need to check my mail though, let's do that first.
Are you going to buy 5,000 flying mount or fuck that?
It's definitely a fuck that angle, I'm going to put all my money into Viki, I
think I want to get her spell strike and all of her gear I don't think there's a
lot I need to buy for myself but I know she's expensive so definitely all of
that first
there's a fucking mailbox like I don't need to fly fast I don't care
So fucking mailbox are we are we trolling here? I guess I can't use this one
Are you gonna do this again in wrath no doubt at the back? I think that's scryer. I don't think I can use that
Spell Shrike even worth it for Shadow Priest? Oh yeah, it's crazy.
on B clip peak TBC gameplay I was going down guys is he playing five characters at
once what the fuck nice this person sent me 15 excellent
Okay, I need to go sell now.
Okay, Scarum is there to help summon.
I'm just gonna force a flight path. I'll just sell an vendor there staff of
Natural fury. Yeah, that's a 2000 gold weapon. It's really good
More of a PvP weapon, but yeah
It's further shadow you set first for shadow priests not spell strike it's both
Spell strike is pants and helmet.
Fraa shadow weave is shoulders, boots and gloves.
I think you were supposed to buy get both.
Their chest, I think.
Yeah.
What is this?
A peekaboo clip?
Uh oh, he blocks, he blocks.
Should I finish his ass off?
Oh, I thought he would die there instead.
No!
This idiot!
Oh my God, brother!
This guy's willing to kill himself to kill me?
Are you serious?
Oh my God.
I...
This is so...
This is so troll.
Owned.
Did you see your LSF clip? No, I didn't. I have one. That stresses me out. What is it?
Melanie charges against- oh, okay.
Soda endorses unethical behavior.
What?
Slaves are definitely worth it then, yeah, you're right.
That's crazy.
Ha ha ha, it's fucking crazy.
I won't feel that now, but in like five years
That's somehow gonna resurface and I'm not gonna understand how to explain the context because I won't even know the context
Fuck it
Maybe I should be wearing this ring.
It's an axe ramus ring.
It's pretty good, right?
Yeah, we'll wear that.
140 armor.
Yeah, fuck him.
You just sold your offhand?
What do you- no I didn't.
Oh shit, Lash is heading there. Alright Lash can you help summon?
I was gonna head there in a second, I was gonna turn in some coil thing armaments really quick.
just spam them cuz why not
repair it auto-repair them good
it did not
you're right
you're not even revered
you're right i'm not
Wait, I am now. What the heck?
You've got mail. Ooh!
I'm hoping it's some fucking coil thing armaments.
Checking.
Oh, it's 15 from Niley. Yes.
Plus 15?
Ooh.
Some guy also sent me 240 armor enchant to my gloves.
Excellent. That's 97. Ooh.
This might actually not take too long. If I keep getting fed these coil thing armaments,
I might have my weapon before I'm even level 70.
And then we can start doing, uh, I guess we should do Heroic Slave Pens and Heroic Underbog.
We should get the Heroics out of the way and then we start farming Lower City for Vicky
on her weapon? Shadow labs and whatnot? Apparently heroic underbog is demonic? Oh. Is it?
If you want to take Harco Innerbog, just know the big fellows will slap the shadow you.
5-6k crits on tanks.
God, yeah, I mean that's why I want to get 70 and I want to get this weapon.
I need to get tank gear so I can...
I need an earth warden.
I need three piece heavy cleft hoof.
Uh...
I prefer having some really good tank rings with armor and stamp on them, right?
Will it be even greater? Is it...
Why the fuck is PvP gear not in the game yet?
Like your belt, wrist, and boots.
Shouldn't he be able to buy those off pieces?
Am I crazy?
The season's not launched. I mean, I know it's not but I you'd still be able to buy those pieces
That's not arena points. That's just honor gear
That's honor gear
Hmm and part of the season you monkey
I mean every other expansion and every time they've ever done TBC the honor gear is released
Before the arena gear
It's just different. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be out
That's incorrect is it okay
All right, let me reset the ray. Oh good for the party reset all instances
Steam vaults has been reset. Let's get it steam vault runs
Imagine actually grinding this out. I don't know what you'd rather me do here
You get your budget PvP gear from Rhett. Yeah, your five piece. I'm talking about off
pieces. Your belt, boots, wrists, neck, ring, cloak, things of that nature. They have the
weapon in game. They have the five piece that you can buy with honor, which you can also
get with our reputation but they don't have the other things I don't know I
find that weird
our houses shaman's gear what are we looking at okay all right so they
basically have resto leveling gear they've been healing dungeons this whole
time. Noice. How's our warlock? Warlock's gear is good. How's the mage? Shoulders of
oblivion, huh? 68 dagger, big offhand. Oh yeah, they're seeing dungeons too.
Encanter's pants and gloves. Nice. Alright, fuck it, let's get it. Let's keep it simple
for now before we get comfortable.
On stone skinner's strength, probably strength.
That is the biggest issue here, this isn't a heroic.
I
Hmm
Yeah, I get no threat on these guys, so I'm just gonna let y'all blast them.
The little guys at least.
Big guy I can get.
I'm told this title surger is like the big group wiper for heroic.
Like, that's the scary mob right there.
Harder than the bosses?
I mean, yeah, it sounds like heroics.
It's just the fact that mobs can hit so hard.
This could be a big pull here.
I a-way taunted before fear.
Nice.
Easy.
Yep. Warlock damn by the way, seed of corruption.
Let's kill this big fuck.
I drink up gay kitty why do you make fun of gay people ah great question can't help it
I had a healing weapon on, whoops.
This is a fat pole
We go behind this pillar here
Fuck
I'm gonna try and keep these casters off, but I'm just gonna let y'all deal with the melee. I can't
It also warlock it's a B res angle for sure
I should have health pot it earlier
My fault I should have tranquillity'd oh my god, Frank would have been big there
Our shaman got silenced man. I wanted to group him up my pit. I mean it's over
Hi on kit. Yeah, I wanted to LOS behind that trunk before we started parsing on everything
But I guess the shaman had to heal
And yeah, trunk would have been big there too. I didn't think about that
My fault
The castors need to max range the oracles well that and again, I just don't think I
Told them exactly what my plan was I just pulled and then went behind the trunk, but it's too late once they get thread
It's all fucking cooked
It's my fault
I'm not sure what I'm doing.
I'm just going to go back to the base.
Oh couple rebuffs here
Wow, yeah touch of shadow 30 minute buff increase shadow damage by 15%
Yep
Interesting.
You're back? Alright. We're gonna try that again.
Gonna try it again here same exact shit
Who that's some awful fear-path-ing jeez
They're fucking screwed I can't do shit
That's as wife as again, oh no.
Big fear.
I'm dead.
I think...
Cheese.
Okay.
We can't do that pull.
One at a time.
What is going on there?
Why are we dying?
I'm confused.
i feel like they were grouped up and that shit just dies
i can't just look some getting silenced
how does their silence work i need uh...
is it like a melee silence
What's that add-on that like tells you what enemies do?
Oh, the silence is ranged, or it's a ranged thing, so y'all have to out-range it.
Interesting.
It's a blood elf ratio, okay.
Yeah, I think they were really fast.
fast does our mage not have am I yeah my fear pathing was cooked does our mage
not have like fucking blizzard slow they do improve blizzard but then I have
frostbite oh that's a big deal
I do but they fucking me yeah this might be one of those double mage angles and
And we don't have double mage.
You need a second person slowing, or you need like a frost trap, something along that.
Whatever.
Let's do one pull at a time.
It's not that big of a deal.
No crazy shenanigans.
God, yeah, it's a long ass silence.
That takes so much damage.
Skip. Skip. Imagine heroic, you get one shot. Yep. Ooh, there's your ring. Babe, I don't
know if they need it, but you should need roll that. Yeah, without a doubt, you should
need all that. Damn, Brest or Shaman needed it? Alright.
Mark the wild.
Did I not mark myself?
Yes I didn't.
You're right.
You really need Critis to chatter pretty slow, do you?
No, but she's- I mean, her gear is leveling gear.
She has greens from Hellfire, Penisula, so replace that shit.
I mean, same.
My gear is also horrible not even 70 yet
What weapon is she using?
Oh yeah, she has the staff from Ring of Blood still.
That's what I'm using.
Just move it on.
I'm waiting to see if I get any unread mail from anyone.
Because it might be coil thing armaments.
But that would just trim this down.
Like, we don't even need to be in here right now, if I just coil thing armaments all the way up.
Apparently someone sent me 50. Uh, where's that confirmed?
We like watching you farm? That's great, but I have other things I can farm, like shadow labs,
because that's where Viki's weapon is.
If you want to pull a save rush out of the sides we can kill the slaves, alright.
Play me all genics.
I will not be doing that.
It's the game fun though?
Are you paying me for these armaments? I'm not man, just help me.
It's fun, sick.
And maybe when things die down and I'm not autistic.
One day.
Noice, easy rep.
There it quit after 30 minutes.
Did he quit or was it like Sunday?
And it's sub-Sunday where he like goes through games quickly.
Check mail.
Guys, still Horde Auction House.
It takes an hour.
If someone actually sent me armaments, send me a whisper and let me know.
If you're like level 70, maybe I'll trust you.
And I'll just go hit up Shadow Labs if I'm done.
Not gonna over farm here.
The Eric doesn't like turn based games.
Yeah.
Why not?
I did, it's in the mail for 30 minutes.
Okay.
I did not send any.
Okay, that's cool.
I sent you 12.
I have like 15 I can give you.
All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Please, just mail him.
Thank you.
How many?
Like, I just gotta know how many I'm getting here.
Yo, stream send him to me instead.
I can send you 15.
Dude, whatever you have, 15 is crazy.
That is an insane amount.
Okay, so he sent three, so I got 15.
I sent you 34?
love are you I mean shit maybe I just leave this maybe or maybe yeah maybe we
hit up shadow labs and I don't waste my time farming if you all send me armaments
y'all think they're telling the truth
I sent you 34 you'll send more alright fuck yeah, I like my chat bullying people
Jesus.
And Mishama is using his totems and everything.
elemental totem and he just put down a flametongue, cancelled it instantly.
I did not mean to do that. I'm sure you didn't, but you did do it, and I noticed, and I told the stream, and now they noticed.
Let's see shadow labs regular loot
Normal it's a really good life bloom relic
Damn what the hell are those gloves? Those are kind of crazy increased damage done by shadow spells by 39
I feel like
All right last year maybe console my bad I keep forgetting that's not that crazy. I mean it is for shadow priests, right?
Second boss drops a really good necklace cheese also a trinket for me a really good cape
A Spell hits sword, ew gross, Expertise dagger, ew, okay, so are you tanking or healing?
I'm tanking, I'm tanking, I might do Resto PVP, but that's about it, I'm gonna go
That cape is not good for feral. I think it is
Beech, mouse, beech, beech, mouse.
What are we doing over here, huh?
Beech, mouse, beech, beech, mouse.
Skipped. Is this Mage almost back?
Beech, mouse, beech, beech, mouse.
He is back.
Jesus Christ!
Waiting for that mage to move. I don't know if he's ready or not. He is.
Noice.
How far is doing chain lightnings out here, huh?
Now, my team zoom.
My mage is at least.
Evocation, life tap, alright now we're good.
cheese good job team
Another armament.
Ooh, thumb daddy has sent me mail.
Ooh.
It's looking like a shadow labs angle, TBH.
And I just beg for coil thing armaments.
Got to read the letter? I did.
I've already turned some in, I got that part.
Got it in my first run, it's great.
You need to both get revered. She's revered.
We got revered naturally.
Uh, cause I know I turned in my quest without doing any armaments and I was revered.
So she should be.
Okay, are you revered with scenario expedition? There's no way you're not
Yeah, she is all right cool
No hunter loot and again no hunters in the group either nice all right
Y'all wanna s labs
All right mates port to chat, please damn plus six. Thanks, babe
All right, don't you need a key to go into Shadow Labs?
How do you get the key?
Actually don't know.
It's from Sethik Halls.
Let's run Sethic Halls really quick first in that case.
Can we do one Sethic Run?
Because we haven't ran that yet, and it has like quests.
Only for Ravenlord?
Alright.
Let's do one Sethic Run.
It's right by Shadow Labs.
Let me see what drops and set it calls.
Trash.
Shadow lab key.
Oh, trousers of oblivion.
Wow.
Really good ring.
Where's the mail?
gold I would give you more but this is all I had left over from giving to peekaboo
also have you noticed that the fat peeka face makes him look like Kim Jong-un I
have noticed that you're right thanks for the two gold I expect more next time
though
Bro, that pick.
What about it?
Unedited, by the way.
He actually wears a filter on stream.
That's what he really looks like.
Crazy.
Bro you have epic flying this fucking warlock. That's crazy
It's my 60% swim speed
Oh, should I got more mail from Kassir now nice I got a blade of wizardry
Shut the fuck how good how long is blades of blade of wizardry this I
Understand that there's higher spell damage out of like kerosene, but that passive is insane isn't it?
Does that like overlap like
like Prince Mauselhard Dagger or no?
It's bis on trash forever.
Okay, so basically it has a use for the entirety of TBC.
For seed spec.
Wow.
Mauselhard Dagger's 200 spell power is exactly.
It's more spell power, but it doesn't have this passive.
It has more stats too, but so it's, OK, that's cool.
I like that it has a use, just like Staff of Natural Fury also
has a use for the entirety of TBC for Feral.
Can you get Haze proc and swap?
I don't know, can you?
Why isn't PvP happening? Because everyone's just trying to... First of all, they're all 65, bro. I'm not going to hit them. I don't want to kill these guys.
I don't like large-scale PvP. It's boring and awful.
Old soda. Old soda. I've always hated large-scale PvP. Always.
Which one is Sethic Halls? We're going east.
Oh, hey, here's the PvP I am tank spec by the way I
Don't have mangle on my bar. Okay, just fucking let's get through
Get into the dungeon move
Oh we got BM hunters out here.
I don't think we can be drinking them.
Wait this Pali dies.
Lay on hands.
What the French toast?
Pali actually dies here.
I mean we love that.
Oooooh!
Wrong place to cast Bozo!
Get in!
Actually, I think we got to grab quest on the outside.
Hang on.
Yeah, I got to put mangle on my bar and cap for him.
Noice.
Big fear, babe.
Oh, dot him up.
All right, let's get it.
Blast him.
I stun on that.
Oh
Intervene this guy's gone. Oh, he's not gone. Oh
That's rough. All right, get in she's still tab dotting. She's dotting everything
Hell yeah, all right fine. Fuck it
Hit that Pali
Bubble you got MD
All right, get into fucking Dungeons Go.
It's parsing on the fucking players.
My flask has ran out, minus 500 health and 10 defense.
Yoics.
Yeah, these guys have a mind control.
I don't know which mobs it is, but they drop a totem at MCs and everyone has to kill that
totem instantly.
The time loss controllers?
Okay.
I'm going to be really careful here because I know these mobs hit really hard.
Oh, okay.
Oracle is doing arc lightning that is chain lightning with silence.
Alright.
What party frame addon am I using?
I'm not using one.
Actually, no, I have something that Grayson recommended and it like allows you to adjust the size of stuff
Add-ons let's go options add-ons frame unlocker called frame unlocker
There's the Charming Totem.
It's called an FU.
you Grayson. I'm not sure what buttons I should be pressing. In a pull of three, do I just
maul and swipe? Mangle? Or should I be hitting Lacerate? I'm kind of just whatever I feel
like I don't know. I guess probably Maul last rate, Mangle off CD. Demo roar? I don't know
much threat demoral actually does. We are right.
Last rate all of AoE so I just shouldn't hit swipe really.
Maybe I'm put...
Maybe I'm hitting my buttons right.
I have innervate in a minute and a half babe, I'll let you drink on this
Use bark skin takes me out of form. You don't really want to hit bark skin while tanking.
I guess you can pre bark skin but someone tell me how this works it reduces all damage taken
by 20%, right? How is that applied? Would it be before or after armor? Because right
now reduces physical damage by 55%, right? So, when does barks can apply? So, like, if
If they would hit you for a thousand, right?
If they hit you for a thousand, you have zero armor, that's how much they hit you for.
And then you go bear form, which reduces physical damage by, let's just say, 50%.
So now they hit you for 500.
20% reduced damage taken on bark skin.
Does that reduce the thousand to 800?
And then the armor knocks it to 400?
Or does it take 500 and take 20% away from that?
I guess... Wait, it wouldn't matter, would it?
It would be 400 regardless.
Huh.
Oh! Kill the totem?
Am I controlled?
Wow.
The fact that they can mind control the tank there is absurd.
If this was heroic...
She'd be dead
Yeah, you got to be like max distance what do you do as a melee then
If the tank is MC'd and you're like a fury warrior DPS, what do you do?
All the mobs now pivot to you because the tank is MC'd and you just die instantly
Kill the totem, but you die instantly.
As a rogue, I guess you vanish.
Wow.
Let's all get into the room.
That bird's gonna patrol, so move in.
Oh my god, she got mind controlled?
And I innovated myself.
That's crazy.
You were microtoned for a split second and so it just itself innervated when I targeted
you.
That was, that's ridiculous.
Sorry babe.
Just make a macro.
I actually do I need a I'm actually running out of action bar space
Like everything is used by something these are all recurringly used by me. I don't have anything on X
Yeah, I just burn boss
They dodge Perry
Oh man rogues are sad they don't have that
Uh, Luda's Mask for the quest.
What do we get out of here again?
Ooh, look at that neck. 40 stamina? That's a lot.
But then this has hit rating an AP. I think I go for the Mark of the Ravenguard, right?
Gotta be.
No agi?
I mean, for mitigation though.
isn't defense asses feral is it man I gotta talk to some feral druid tank
people because I'm I'm kind of lost on the direction here
defense is worth less than agility
really only after cap is it bad well not defense caps what is the what is the
defense cap isn't it like 450 or something
440? I mean, I currently have 351.
415 for Feral Tank.
Okay.
Well I know I get defense from Earth Warden.
Uh, that gives me like 20.
And then I get heavy cleft hoof chest.
And pants, if I want to wear the pants over the uh...
I don't know, this has expertise on them. They're kind of insane, but that's defense, chest and boots and weapon
Rezil gear, I can't get Rezil gear
That's why I was upset that you can't buy the the belt the bracers or the boots yet with honor
I thought you could
But I guess it comes out with Karazhan.
So, can't really get Razil yet.
Are we getting rep?
For killing these people? I have no idea.
For lower city?
Hmm.
I know you can buy the 5 piece gear and get resilience that way, but that gear is not
worth it for tanking.
So I'm floating combat text to it, okay.
Floating combat text.
All right
You gotta do set okay, so shadow labs to get revered got it. Well, we're doing it after this
I mean she needs to get exalted
Is there any way you can buy exalted with lower city?
Like anything you can turn in that's not absurd?
I was curious if there's like, if there's an item we can like try and farm or reserve.
Nope, you gotta farm it?
Okay.
So there's no fell armament turn-ins or anything like that?
All natural, huh?
watch out for those ghosts by the way they'll one shot you in heroic when they
die they spawn those and they just they just last a little bit
Everyone wants to AWE farm slabs, you won't have trouble finding a group, okay.
fine. I still only have mail from Kazzar. I may not get as many, uh, what is it?
Coil thing armaments I thought I would. It might be a fucking loser.
You need to enable repping combat text to share the word rep.
Alright.
Got it.
Oh, lower city plus nine.
What the fuck?
They were not even honored yet.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
So we are getting rep out of this.
Nice.
For now.
Alright, Vicky if you're listening, this is where I would summon the Ravenlord boss and
we would kill that fuck.
And he has the potential chance to drop the Ravenlord mount.
This is the room we'd have to go to.
But it's not in the game yet.
So it's a later type situation if you want to farm it.
Alright.
was killed by a ghost. Rip your hardcore. Shadowlab Normal is apparently 2k rep per
run, but you can apparently do aroka feathers to honored. We're almost honored, we're fine.
Whatever.
Definitely a shadow labs angle after this though.
So I think these guys can fear.
It's not worth doing full runs of shadow labs.
Well, we'll do the first. We'll do a full run, you know, there's some gear maybe
We'll see what it drops
Need some dispels on these hooges
The fuck is this song?
Ooh, big gem.
I greeted.
Alright, almost done.
I don't know how you do this pull in heroic.
I guess I would hibernate this bird.
We'd have a mage to polymorph the shaman.
I guess we'd pull back in the room and we could fear for CC as well.
Which would leave two mobs still up, and then you just have to kill two, I guess.
Insta kill the bird and stun it. I mean, you can hibernate it, right?
Oh yeah, we'd have Shackle for the Shadow Mage because they're undead.
Okay, yeah, this group could easily do this pull.
On Heroic.
Yeah, let me loot that book. Good call.
spells. Alright, last boss.
Of course they poly her the only person you can dispel that's crazy
But she gonna get blown up
That's just fun
She
I'm an annoying boss.
noise ooh my ring dropped the fuck there's some really good pants too pass
I'll take the ring Ravenclaw uh we'll get rid of
That I guess.
Yeah, I gotta loot these Spirit Shards. I think I did.
Yeah, we're good.
Alright, both quests complete.
Uh, there's a quick way out.
I was so high for this boss because it had mechanics.
It's-
Ooh, run away!
Light of sight!
He's immune!
The only reason people actually do that mechanic, genuinely the only reason people do it, is because the boss is immune to damage.
If he wasn't, people are gonna fucking soak it and blame the healer.
Promise you.
I actually think I take this necklace here.
I mean, sure, there's this neck, but like for DPS, I use the Tasha's choker.
This is a mitigation neck, which I feel like I kind of need right now.
And then also, macros, I have a new healing weapon, or a healing offhand at least, Gem
of Narubis.
You had a good run, but you're gone.
Is there anywhere to sell here? I don't think so.
Uh, so do you think it's possible or doable for a non-sweat to level in TBC? To level? Absolutely.
Like, to do regular dungeons?
Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, heroics?
I'm having serious doubts.
I'll be right back.
Blah-blah-blah-blah.
all right do we need to summon our shaman he's in org let's go summon our shaman
so now you've done the quest you just reset at the second boss for repruns also you have
two have you two started your attuned shit no we haven't we have not started
the attunement but that's whatever that's no rush
I know the attune brings us to steam vaults and it brings us to slave pens
or to shadow labs but it's whatever we're running this shit like 20 times
where do you even start your two I don't even know
Shae, maybe we should do our Tummin.
So I think it has us go, the Tummin has you get all the way to the end of Shadow Labs,
right?
And that's kind of AIDS.
Tumen on Rested XP? I think you're right.
Tumen for Karazhan.
Travel down Deadwind Pass? Ooh!
Deadwind Pass!
Ew, yuck.
They just can point his sonar will throw me back. Yeah, fuck it. Let's do it
Lash, can you port us to stone hard?
We just got to go do our dumb Kara to mint bullshit. We should get this done. Sorry you need it too. Alright, let's do it
Wait push warlock actually send stuff it could be armaments
And zero tone it they both message me it could be armaments
The Kara part is so boring isn't it like you go into the graves and you have to like kill a bunch of fucks
It's awful oh 34 35 that's 38
Ooh
All right, all right love that
Let's do calculator 38 plus 8.
So 43 times 75.
So I'm at like 12k rep out of 21,000.
So I need like 9,000 more rep, 9,000 divided by 75.
I need 120 more.
I'm gettin' there.
38 plus 8? Well, I was doing other math in my head.
It's 35 plus 1.
The mail had like 40...
I don't remember.
I'll sell that, babe.
Nice.
I'll sell that, too.
Okay.
Thanks, babe. I'll sell that.
I need that money you ain't Pika I I know that
that. How much gold does peekaboo have? Genuinely. No really. 8k? Bro, I've got 2900 and that's
honestly that I want to say 500 of this gold came from viewers. Actually it came from one
guy named Drunk Twink who just gives me 50 gold daily. Everything else is from fucking
I'm questing.
Ridiculous.
And why do I even stream?
I get my 50 gold allowance
And if I had Autiesh this would be great
Unfortunate Autiesh is definitely bis for Kara attunement
Any chance for Vicky getting on the ox?
Babe, do you want to handle the music today?
You feeling like a DJ?
Or are you zoned out?
She may not even have been unmuted right now.
I'm zoned out, but also...
You're literally on my playlist.
Oh yeah. I am on her playlist.
One of her playlist. She has a lot.
Alright, what do we do with this quest?
Ghostly Essence?
I'm gonna put it on free for all.
Do I kill everyone here?
I don't know if I do.
I want to get this quest done.
I don't want this group to have to wait.
God, what is this shit?
This is awful.
Underground reading.
Okay, I guess we click this here.
And now we just
tell the ghost or an cares and loop for us is head back the way you came from the exit
to master cellar you surely enter another entrance where she going I don't think we
do ghostly essences yet
Well, maybe this is correct.
No, this is definitely not right. That's a dead end.
It says go back the way you came.
So...
A lot of shadow priests, goodness.
Fuck.
Yeah, these guys on the top of the surface don't drop it so I think we want to go up
and we go into a different cellar.
I think it's like over here.
Or maybe the air- oh!
Alright Mr. Rogue, you wanna do this?
He's dead.
Oh, he health potted.
He blinded me.
Alright.
Oh, there's the cellar. I see it.
oh my god it's not even a hundred percent drop chance oh no oh that's brutal
I don't remember this being so painful, huh?
How long is this attunement hold on I've just like before you do dungeons
Find a group for shadow labyrinth, okay?
It looks like it's not too long and the next thing is oh got the well reading that's nice
Yeah, it looks like we got to just loot now
I have it on free for all, so...
Wow.
Have we gotten a single one?
No.
This is definitely a spread out angle, guys.
There's no reason for us to compete on the same mobs.
I think I'm just gonna camp this hallway and, you know, cut my losses here.
pick our spot I mean we can go here like this whole hallway we can try and just
but but set whole seems to be pulling mobs I can out tag this rogue really well
Mage can too.
Unfortunate.
And he barely got that.
I
Repowed in here, bro. I will kill you get out of my hallway, bro
Seats taken
Hey, my macros not working what?
Huh
guys we got a shaman coming down the hallway I'm gonna send him out of here
Yeah, wrong hallway.
Got to out tag this Pali.
What the hell outta here bro?
Good news is, we're about a third of the way done.
this warrior yeah it looks like these two are leaving they know it's too
competitive in this hallway we got this shit locked down so why is my macro
not working it should be swapping to my scepter and my offhand
cleared. What? You better walk away. Slash point. Slash point.
Yeah, that slot bullshit, maybe I think he wants the well reading. Oh, yeah. I think
you're right. I forgot he has to go get that. You're trying to clip an offhand first, is
That why? So if I were to do...
Let me try it now.
Nice, big pulls here.
Love that for us.
This Rogue should be upset.
Yeah, steal his tags.
No, he's gonna get that.
Yeah, he actually just wanted to fucking do the crystal thing, oh.
Oh fuck, I'm bad and slow.
Alright, checking.
Oh, the macro's still not working.
Weird.
weird
uhhhh
okay let's change, let's take this
no shield, draconian deflector
we'll put this as the off hand
and then heart seeker
I know this is go from dual wield
this is not the right one now fuck
the fuck. Which one is main hand and which one is off hand? 16, 17. 17 is off hand. Okay.
I mean, fuck, how do I- I swear I don't need to do all this.
Slash equip, weapon, slash equip, one-hander slash equip, off hand, like that should work.
It really should.
Oh, hello.
This guy popped Wreck, by the way.
If you don't hit save, that doesn't matter.
I need a macro that swaps from a two-hand weapon to a one-hand and off-hand.
I think that's it.
Now it's not working at all.
Maybe there's no space. Equip slot.
It's still bugged.
What is happening there?
The offhand goes last. It is.
Huh. Is it spelled right? I mean yes.
Slash reload.
I actually maybe let me see
I have no trinket, I'm stuck in the sphere.
Use Eclipse Slot 16 main and Eclipse Slot 17 offhand.
that literally what I did? Like what? Equips about 16 staff of beasts. Like I did that.
offhand first okay here's in this macro
work before it just randomly stopped
working okay we'll try this 17 we'll
change this to the offhand and then
we'll change this to 16 and we'll go
with the healing weapon I was also
Also having this issue on the PTR, I don't know why.
Still doesn't work.
Try a different offhand.
I don't have another one right now.
But yeah, it stopped working as soon as I got a new offhand.
Take mine.
Okay.
Taking yours.
Show tooltip...
What the hell is your start with a 16?
I guess show tooltip 16.
Okay, light sort of hammer.
That's the one-hander.
So that should go to this.
Here's your offhand. We'll change that to
Saga of Tarak.
And then here's your staff we'll turn that into staff of beasts, okay should work
Bro what I swear the offhand is just bugged
Like it swaps from the two-hander to the one-hander, but it just doesn't put the fucking offhand on
Click save did y'all are clueless it's baffling how many people are giving opinions that have clearly never made macros in their life
they're calling me retarded for not saving crazy I think it's a restarted game
this guy say one of you will architize the tune after slabs yeah let's do our
the whole attunement. I'm down.
Whatever. Reload, I already did.
Is the offhand letting you equip it at all?
Yeah.
It does.
That is so weird.
Macro with offhand not working or bug sometimes
because it doesn't know about bags.
make a second macro for your offhand? Well, that's the...
I mean, at that point I should put both the offhand
and the fucking mace on my bar.
Heh, fuck that.
They removed your one-hander? No, it didn't, look.
I think it's a client issue that's that is what it is you can't change me or tell tell me I'm wrong
It did before a hundred percent. It might have been me pressing my fucking key binding and clipping the staff
All right, I need three more
Let's make it a quest that doesn't have a drop rate with limited mods available in
crypt that both factions need.
To be fair, I mean, this quest was added in actual TBC and I don't think this was
like this on TBC release.
It was awful you talk about 2007 you remember it
So, very few things I remember about actual TBC is one of the richest people I knew in
game was a guy named Old Stinky and he was still farming SFK and selling Shadow Fangs
for Twinks.
So that's kind of, it was the richest on the server.
Nowadays you're not making anything doing that.
Uno mas.
Honestly, we might, we can just start heading out.
let's head out. We'll get it on the way up. Surely. Wait, do they have one over there?
dropped right here. Alright, I guess I'll loot this last one.
Try this. Item ID. Okay. You want me to change the macro to do the specific item ID? Sure, bro.
I'm sure this will make a diff.
Oh my god it fucking worked.
Fuck
That's crazy
Shitty ass fucking client. That's absurd
How does that even make sense?
Alright, now, travel to the Altrecht Mountains.
Really, Altrecht Mountains.
This might be an under city port angle
Yeah, it's because the staff is a clip thing you no longer have a staff equipped when you try to clip the off-hand
Well, it's like no eclipse to whatever
It wasn't working before I used this mackerel either.
So, Chalder Mousons turn this in, go to Shat.
All right, this is the last thing we have to do.
Then we go to Shadow Labs and kill Murmur.
Hey, we're almost 72, I'm one bar away.
Maybe I should buy my heavy cleft hoof.
.
209 gold for the chest.
You've got mail you're right I'm gonna check let's see how many armaments got sent
Ooh, 16 from Bush Priest. Yes. Get baited. Money for your time, sir. Thanks for the background
entertainment. Okay, those are not armaments, but I'll take it. 34, bang. From Bush. Plus
One from zero, three from Kaz, excellent, got me fly over, I think Hill's Brad right?
Okay, imagine some
Fuck in my SV looting all the armaments to give to his favorite streamer. What are you gonna do with a man?
You drew it, huh? You need exalted
I think only does anyone need exalted with Sonarian refuge besides feral's let me see what they give I'm actually curious
Actions Sonarian expedition not refuge
Oh, okay, that offhand is really good shit. Oh
That ring is pretty good too for probably warlocks. God damn it
Wait it also cost 200 gold for this weapon
God damn it recipes as well
Okay, that's worthless
Worthless. Distilled Wisdom.
Nature protection, ew.
Oh, fuck.
Shit, the only way you can...
You need a fucking exalted to get the nether, uh, cleft leg armor?
That's crazy.
Go out and PvP like a man. There's what PvP?
Can't y'all just let me have the armaments just send them to me, please I
Don't want to do more steam vaults. I really don't I'm already gonna fucking be farming slabs
I'm a streamer I don't want to do the same farm that you guys do
kill that loby dude fucking so before Vicky boosted to 58 she was
questing in Hillsbrad right and she's like babe I need you to come body guard
me because it is fucked out here every single person that was questing
without like or basically questing that didn't boost had a level 60 this is
during pre-patch, bodyguarding them.
I guarantee you there's a level 70 somewhere.
Or maybe not, maybe not anymore
because like the level 60s have something to do
now that TBC is out.
But yeah, every person had a level 60
just following them around, killing every person
instantly so that their level 30
could get all the quest items.
It was actually the worst.
They're just killing them, killing them all.
I'm pretty sure China had this like implementation they had where if you die to someone five or greater levels than you
You become immune to that person hurting you for like what five minutes, so they can't just kill you over and over
And people are getting flack saying that's not good to have in the game, but I don't know what the argument
What argument is there to not have that in the game?
It's actually a great change
If you get killed by someone five levels or higher than you when you come back
They cannot kill you for five minutes. It's fucking honestly. They could even go a step further 30 minutes
I don't know how that's gonna get like
Abused bot protection I guess but
All right, we're ready or it says travel to chat
that. Viggy's on her way back. I had six ally rogues camping me, following me across zones.
Fun lovely experience and pre-patch. Yeah, it was rough. Makes you almost think that
all those bodyguards were blizzard employees just fucking making you feel bad for not
buying a boost.
Well this guy wants a port chat so bad.
That's crazy.
All right, find a group for shadow labs, got that, all right, we're ready for shadow
are they able to summon?
oh no they're not.
I have more mail though. Let me check.
From he is smork.
Chad, do we think this is going to be some coil thing armaments or is it going to be like five copper?
I'm betting copper.
Oh my God, it's two.
All right. All right. We'll take plus two.
150 rep.
Yes, please.
Thanks, bro.
I
Didn't trust I really he is smork is just such a level five name. I don't know
So close to 70 we're right there, but you know once you're 70
We're doing exactly what we're doing right now. We just started the attunement grind a little early
Is this a game at some point or just autism simulator?
Autism simulator the whole way through.
What clothing armaments for again?
You can turn them in for rep Ashley.
They'd give you 75 rep per.
The only way you can turn them in though is there's a quest item that drops off the
mobs and steam vaults.
You have to randomly find this paper that gives you a quest.
Once you turn that in, you gain the ability to turn in Coil Fang Armaments, each one for
75 rep.
Coil Fang Armaments are BOE, or tradable, so you can basically buy your way to Exalted.
I am currently begging my viewers for Coil Fang Armaments.
I do not want to go into Steam Vaults.
I am 10,000 out of 21,000 exalted.
So with that math, I need 11,000-ish rep.
Divide that by 75.
I need 150 coil-fing armaments.
I currently have 64.
So if y'all give me 80, cinema.
I'm there.
Everyone will pog, especially me.
I think they sell for like what three gold per right now
Just buy it I could buy it myself, but this gold is going towards Viki spell strike set and her frost fire
What is it frost fire?
She has five pieces of tailoring each of which is extremely expensive frost weave frozen shadow weave, whatever
Each piece is like 3,000 gold she needs five pieces
Can she not farm it well the most frustrating thing with that gear is a lot of it requires
like primal mooncloth and stuff and like some shadow weave bullshit you can only make
one of those per three days.
So with how much she needs, she will actually not have it until the next expansion is out.
But you can farm a lot of it, yeah.
Don't you big viewers for that then? Oh, I won't what do you think I'm doing right now guys
If you have any of your cooldowns for tailoring for primal mooncloth or anything really materials that you need for shadow priest biscuit
I'll use it
Absolutely if you don't need it like yeah
Maybe a little discount
But truth be told I'm probably gonna just do like duels for gold and whatever money I get out of duels for gold
I'm just going to buy it from the auction house.
Are you the wrong spec?
I am.
You're right.
Yeah, I put it on group loot.
You want to do AoE pulls here?
AoE here?
I don't know how to do these pulls.
I guess we're just LOS on these pillars, group them the fuck up.
Alright.
Whoa.
Grab both right and middle.
Alright, I got it, I got it.
Might be a little too big TBH
Oh
Wow
All right
I think I'm we're gonna do the same pull here, but I know there's some casters so I'm gonna try and get behind the pillar
Best I can do here
I'm just gonna try and tank the locks while you a we all this other shit
I'm not even gonna attempt that over there.
fell armaments I guess we's I guess everyone just need rolls everyone just need roll
are we needing just need on it for now we'll just need from now on whatever
yeah babe we do want to need on those that's for all door rep and that's our
shoulder enchant. But then again, I think everyone needs it so.
was pretty much to go to what classes go scryer actually have no idea like what
actually goes scryer maybe some casters crit casters is that just like mages
warlocks so warlocks and mages go scryer and ellie shaman maybe boomkin huh all
Alright is there a good way to deal with this?
Like should I go to the pillar in LOS here?
Is it LOS here?
Okay.
Got it.
How many we want to try six I gotta wait for this fellow over here
We want to try all of them three six nine
Hell this is awkward two or three packs up to me up to me he says
All right, give me a sec.
Wow.
Okay.
I don't know how hard these guys hit, but they do fear.
Big Trevor Totems.
I'll try and tank two of them.
Little iffy on them.
Oh, I fucking love him.
Oh, level 70!
Woo!
Oh, shit.
Grassbrough, thanks, guys. I currently have 25 Primal Mooncloth, but I'm saving them for Pika on his Warlock.
You can die in real life, slowly.
Thank you, though.
Actually, I'm gonna do a big pull here I think.
I'm on crack.
Oh, fuck, it's a wipe.
Did not see this guy.
Alright, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna target this guy.
Good luck with the rest of the mobs, guys.
I gotta tank him.
Aw, shizn't it.
Hmm, who should I innervate here?
I'm gonna give it to Beach Mouse, not the healer.
Maybe I'm crazy, but she does healing too with them.
Why not innervate me?
Yeah.
Girlfriend benefits.
Shadow Priest. They also give you mana by doing damage, so I don't know, maybe a little thought process.
I'll try harder to do damage. Yeah, your damage is horrible, double it. I don't understand.
Oh, we got a healing stream totem pulling.
I can put my chest on too.
Hmm.
I
Hmm
Excellent.
Oh, hey, my lifebloom relic.
It's actually really good.
There's a quest turned in over here.
Noice. And where's my chest piece?
Alright, I have 9,360 health.
Damn.
Now I have over 10k.
Well, 13k in bare form.
Damn.
Big chest piece.
Ah, should have had two less HP, it'd be crazy.
I'm not sure how to do these pulls. Is this LOS?
I don't know if this is LOS. I mean, I'll test it. It's not.
Fuck it. Double pull.
They making LOS here?
the mind plays fuck alright ooh warlock went to one
easy everyone need roll those
I
Let's kill this one single target bitch first. I think these guys are kind of hard
A lot of Shadow Nova is going off out here.
I'm thinking about a big pool here we're gonna do middle and we're gonna do left side
They're slightly staggered, but that's okay.
Oh, Viggy just hit level 70, brats.
That's two level 70s. We're done leveling nice
This might be a little awkward because we have this big bitch here, but I think it's fine. Okay, let's pull it with her house tanker
What the fuck? There's assassins in here? I thought I actually thought I was in the
open world and I was getting ganked. But I heard that cheap shot sound.
We got to loot these soul devices.
I think this quest is good for rep, so we should do it.
There's a lot at the end too.
Yeah.
Oh my god, I forgot about the end of Shadow Labs.
I think I just had a memory comeback of 2021 TBC.
Wiping on Shadow Lab's heroic because murmur is actually hard as fuck.
Firmers hard he's strong he blew the roof off the place he did then again this is normal
Thank God.
You're gonna wipe to this next boss?
I don't think so.
He does something weird.
What is it again?
Tank the boss against the right wall for less knockback.
He has like some mind control bullshit.
Pull him to corner.
Alright.
But yeah, he emcees all of us.
That's right.
So then we're just CC'd for 10 seconds.
Howl of Terror?
Oh, I just bashed her.
Oh, shit, it's a Thread Drop too.
Oh fuck, there's a threat drop.
Jesus
Yeah, when he charges it's a threat drop
Oh, this motherfucker is flying.
Damn.
Little wand there, okay.
If you want to spam dungeons, a paladin.
That's previous wand, is it?
That's not previous money I was gonna say it's like not that great damage feels low
Oh god that Cedic rupture actually blasted every skeleton
It's S-Fan? I mean, it's S-Fan. What spec is he playing? Is he Prott?
Shouldn't he, if I can get a group?
Rhett? He's Rhett?
Hmm.
Yeah, the Blackstalk is really good from Heroic.
I mean, we're going to do a Heroic underbog today, so...
Who knows maybe it'll drop four
Do not go to heroic underbog why not
It's cooked stars as it's cooked we got to see it
Now I gotta go see Heroic Underbug, see what the talk of the town is.
I had Nax, I had a Nax raid lead hunter, me, previous warrior, and a previous Pali.
I shouldn't have me, man.
The ultimate tank.
I
Oh my god, I forgot this isn't the final hallway there's another hallway after this for oh my god this place is long
Got a president mailbox streamer boy grassland 70. All right, I'll wait for it
They really need to go buy my earth warden
Well, if I get the rep
Cuz I'm missing a lot of what's my defense at with this gear
371 defense and I get another 24 from earth warden that puts me to like almost 400 defense
It's up there
I know Brazil because you only buy the five
The five main stat pieces or whatever and they're not very good
You want your off pieces, but those aren't in the game yet
You don't want to wear the PvP gloves and the PvP
Then again, I could just go buy him because I would wear him over what I currently have
There's three fair. I literally just hit 70 in this dungeon. So
Yeah warlock damage fucking filthy
What are the mechanics of this guy again?
Does it even matter?
Doesn't he like sacrifice somebody?
It's Floyd Walkers. Oh, I just literally just ignored the mechanic.
Noice.
Quest items behind. What are you talking about?
Is it the items that you just loot? It's fine. There's gonna be a lot in this hallway.
Oh, book back there. Oh.
Not bad. That's important.
I mean, I did turn one in.
The Codex of Blood, I did that. Did I not?
and I'm chilling. We're good.
Alright this is a long fucking hallway.
Oh god, okay.
The Spellbinders MC.
Got it.
Alright.
I don't know if we can do big pulls here.
I mean we'll see what I can do.
Ah, that's a pretty decent pull.
Oh, fuck me.
I'm trying to kill these spellbinders because they MC.
I'm trying to break that MC.
This is fucking absurd.
fuck.
I a we taunted
Big pre-silence, love that.
Well, this felt like a fucking arena match.
What the hell was that?
Yeah, I guess they have like summoners and healers?
Yeah, that's miserable.
Count how many NPCs killed?
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen, I think fifteen.
That might have been last pull.
Alright, let's keep it going.
I think once we kill him the boss starts maybe maybe not I don't think so
No, alright.
So I forget what this boss does.
It's not heroic, so it's not gonna be that hard, but I think mobs come down the hallway
and we have to kill them.
He also has an explosion.
He like sucks us in and we have to walk away.
out no mobs okay so no mobs he sucks us in and he just does a big explosion just
just walk away and he does a debuff that makes him explode so just don't stack
all right that's easy again non-heroic shouldn't be a problem
Debuff is on her.
Sonic boom.
Well.
Looks like you all just got hit by that
Oh, I resisted it. Oh
Really have to be farther away than damn spotters of oblivion
Those are actually pretty good.
Tide Fury, ew.
Uh, hold on, I think there's a first fragment here.
We have to loot?
Yeah, yeah, come loot this.
Everyone's gotta loot this for their Kara Tuman.
Or kill this, rather.
loot it. Easy. Alright, uh, just chat. Let's do Kara, teammate. Let's just get this shit
out of the way is it steam vaults next oh shit maybe I can get my weapon I got
check my mail damn those risks are good what the fuck
these suck
all right daily heroic too I mean what what is it cuz we need the reputation
Steam Vault and the Arquitraz next, all right.
It's Steam Vaults?
Ooh, that's the heroic.
Do we want to try it?
I mean, I don't really have any gear yet.
I'm squishy as fuck.
Ooh, plus two gold?
Yes, please.
Fiery Boyce- Ooh, 100 gold?
And then 5 armaments. Thanks, Fiery Boy. Nice.
And then Dustain sent 3.
Alright.
And then 100 gold said fuck peekaboo.
Excellent.
Ahhhh.
It's pretty easy. We just have to do one pack at a time
and skip as much as possible.
I mean, fuck it. If it's the daily, we should do it.
Um...
world. Where the hell do you grab the daily? Oh, there it is. Daily Heroic. Oh, yeah,
go train. Viki and I both have to train for both level 70. You're right. I'm gonna go Moon
Actually, let me go change my hearth to chat first.
Go all door rise, change my hearth.
All right.
Go AH spec and get some consumes.
I could get some consumables.
I think I just try it as is.
I really want to see how heroics are.
Well, just steam vaults is apparently an easy one.
easy one. One pull at a time. We'll try some CC. Keep it simple. We have a really good comp.
cast recleaved. Do you know when we get Swift Lifeform? You don't get Swift Lifeform until
phase 2 unless they changed it or yeah phase tier 5 basically.
not dying I mean I yeah gonna try and not die obviously but I can also put two
and two together I feel like I can have a pretty decent idea as how hard
something would be if I was in discord and we were hardcore and we're playing
it super slow I feel like I can fill in those blanks and have a decent
understanding
one key difference though is like if this was hardcore I wouldn't go to heroic
yet there's no way I would ever step into a heroic with this kind of gear I
would farm normals until I have full level 70 gear right and I'm not sure
how that would look. You can also just, yeah, you can also skip heroics and just go straight
to cares and
which i don't want to do that but that
might be the play
already at cyclone
new tranquility well so i get
There we go. New moon fire, hurricane, new mark of the wild.
Can you get exalted yet? No, I need more coil-fing armaments.
I have sixty nine.
I want to fly there. Turn these in.
No, we're doing heroic. Yeah. Dungeon difficulty. I changed it heroic.
If you turn it in to how many arguments would you have? If you turn into, if I turn them
all in what would my rep be? 14,500 so I need 6,500 rep which divide that by 75 I
I need 86 more coil faying armaments and I will be exalted.
He's asking what 69 minus 2 is. I think it's 67.
You haven't checked everything?
for the community survey
i feel like i checked a lot
oh the dungeon survey damn the top three dungeons people's favorite are brd
dead mines and scarlet monastery cathedral oh they love farming cathedral
That's crazy these people are actually retarded
Cathedral is just a fucking they just like getting boosted
These have to be actual gold farming bots that just make sure cathedral stays the same no changes. It's great
Has to be
ZF is sick
How is Wailing Caverns, everyone said that they're not metaslaves and they play it, what?
Wailing Caverns is 17% but Dead Minds is 50%? Yeah they're all alliance like metaslaves.
Absolutely, and they all claim to not be liars.
And being a metaslave is fine, but be honest about it.
That being said, Wailing Caverns is actually extremely confusing.
People get lost, it's difficult to navigate.
Really could use re-work.
Deadmines has smite's hammer.
Wailing Caverns has Venom Strike.
Leggings of the Fang, man.
scale breastplate ooh that male level 23 chest lasts until like level 40
oh I think we're gonna do normal the shaman doesn't have heroic he's been with
us this whole time let's do a normal no problem that's fine oh fuck I attacked a
guard's wait wait they're attacking him
oh no
All right, let's put it on normal.
How much do you need to get revered?
I'm at 6.7K.
need like 11k I think. Honestly one or two sea vaults runs would get you like heroic but
who cares. Or revered. Make sure you guys zone out and back in.
the druid class results in the survey? That fucking dammit. Class and talent survey. How
How would you rate class balance in vanilla WoW?
Three?
What?
Three?
Oh wait, okay, oh, I'm done.
I got it reversed.
That actually makes sense.
I was, okay, so I was thinking at like seven.
Okay.
So seven being like pretty good.
Three being horrible.
Okay.
Sorry, I misunderstood
But still 12% people say seven things have to be all warriors
All warriors and mages are down here
Do you think balancing needs that for classic plus classes can have different damage profiles, but they all need important utility
So you bring them. Yes
absolutely
Which of the falling talentries in your opinion needs major revamping balance shoot is damn near way to fuck up there
All right, let's go
Rep Paladin yeah a lot of people play rep Pali that's the difference
Everyone's a main character Paladin savior of the Alliance fucking loser
role-playing like a bunch of jackasses stupid class I should have pulled this guy
Geez.
I saw that power shield, babe, I'm sick.
How the hell did I almost die there?
Oh my god, that heal.
Oh, I was LOS-ing the healer.
How the fuck?
Okay.
My bad.
I was told you need more gold.
I shall answer that call.
Excellent, drunk twink.
Pally suck.
Obviously Rogues and Warlocks too.
your hunt or will your hunter and mage are meta slaves what classes do you like at this point druids
I respect them they know what's going on they they play multiple different roles they tank they heal
they do damage they even provide hit rating for the whole raid and tbc kind of crazy
pretty selfless people overall morally superior in most ways um
I mean, honestly, I think most rude players should receive some type of Nobel Peace Prize.
You're welcome.
Also Shadow Priest are amazing too.
And beautiful.
Smart and funny and brave.
That's fine.
But everyone else?
Nah, something's wrong with them.
Zoom
Nobody likes rogues they really don't really don't
I'm a shaman, please validate my choice. I like shamans to shamans are cool
Shamans priest druids everyone else is a bitch
You're selfish you probably support slavery
Just deeply closeted racist motherfuckers
Closet is in like a closeted racist some sand
No one's arguing with me.
Everyone agrees with everything I just said, so that's chilling.
Ha!
Ha ha ha!
Yep.
Parried.
Little bit of an awkward pull here. I think I can squeeze it though. Nice.
Why are you skipping people singing my name? Do you not love me?
crazy. This is the pool where we got butt fucked. I don't want to fuck with this one
at a time. Keep it simple. Keep it clean.
You think we got it this time? I mean, we're already- Alright. Fuck it. Let's try this
again. Get your mana. We're gonna pull everything here. I'm gonna LOS behind this giant shroom
asshole. Uh, if you're close, they silence, so. Be really far away.
Good point, Vey. Skip this and you hate your girlfriend, Beach Mouse.
That's crazy.
Beach Mouse.
Oh my god, Beach Mouse.
Beach Mouse.
Beach, Beach Mouse.
Big fucking kicks, I see those.
Massive War Stomp.
Damn, we did that shit!
Nice job, team.
Excellent.
The major warlock did everything well Viki got a couple silences in there I did the pool
the shaman did the healing each mouse did mana regen also helped heal didn't you see
You see me in this lab this shit ain't nothing to me man, okay?
I actually don't like mage warlock players as people.
I think there's something wrong with them mentally.
So just throwing that out there.
Something's just off.
I have a feral drew it all something's fucked up with you then pick a lane fuck face
Oh shit
either a piece of shit or your furry you can't be both or I guess you could
Oh
Do I need this Morgan no you do not you it's a unique fucking ring better have it
All right everyone get down here we got to kill this thing thing again
I mean as of right now when it comes to hardcore my consensus big word proud of that one
Normals are easy, man. They're actually like the perfect difficulty of what a hardcore should be.
IMO. Like, you can die. You can overpool. It'll definitely happen. There will be a lot of wipes in regular dungeons when people aren't, you know, decked out in epics.
I haven't seen Heroics yet. I'm just, I'm heavily leaning towards it's cooked.
I'm just getting a lot of info that's scaring me.
Oh yeah, we have to do regular Architras. Apparently regular Architras is more difficult than some heroics.
And isn't that like needed to be done for your Kara attunement?
Oh
Okay
Arca-chass wasn't hard at all. All right. All right. I'm getting mixed mixed words here. We'll give it a whirl. We'll see what's up
We'll do a full seam while it's clear because I actually need to wrap out of this place and we're already here so
Let's clear it all out
Wubby, Stoned Pion and Vitile. Can y'all tell me what you mailed me?
Because I actually may be able to get my Earth Warden based on what y'all mailed me.
Is it coil thing armaments?
Then I was sure me I guess you're not listening. Shit.
All right, Shaman's AFK, all right.
What alt should I make, stream?
If I were to play another character, what should I play?
I actually don't know.
Didn't you say you want a rogue? I don't certainly want a rogue.
I'm down for whatever. A shaman?
Mmm, okay.
Saren just messaged me. He said, I don't know if you looked at this on stream.
But does that question results annoy you as much as it does me?
How would you rate Vanillawile balanced fluids kit in terms of PVP?
They have Farrell way higher.
I don't get what he's seeing here.
Huh.
One is bad?
I mean, yeah, Druids are probably the worst PvP spec in the game in classic.
They're the best for flag carrying, in fact, you need one for flag carrying, but in a dual
tourney, Druids are probably the worst.
Also probably the most boring to watch.
They're just not flashy at all.
just dampening and surviving wrong oh I'm sorry twitch chat I didn't know that you
guys partook in like the only actual classic while dueling tourney with the
best players I don't remember like did I get third place in that tourney maybe
The ego on this guy, absolutely I'll have an ego.
Now to be fair, the reason why y'all are going to be so conflicting is, number one, I think most of you are fucking retarded.
You're clueless on what the actual discussion is.
We're all split. If we're going to talk about dueling,
if we're going to talk about dueling, Druids are horrible.
You are completely fucked by the dual zone
That is why you lose to a lot of classes warlocks priests
They just fuck you
Rhoads you lose no matter what as long as they know what they're doing
Warriors you lose to if they're allowed to use engineering unless it's the best of three
They'll just win one duel. They won't be able to win another one without, you know engineering tricks
Shadow Priest beats you
Well if you have a dual zone if there's no dual zone you can just run away and like they can't dispell your hots a
Good enhancement shaman beats you a good ellie shaman beats you
Hunter beats you every time you'll never win
Only reason I got third was because they actually fucked being over Dean was my opponent and it was a best of three
I think I won the first duel. I don't even know how
Beans just sucked. He should even with innervate. I shouldn't win and then the next duel being won
And then the third duel happened. I don't have innervate
He's supposed to win and shit on me, but I think something happened like they started having technical issues
And innervate came off cooldown
Get fucked
It asks how Balanced Druids and PvP not in general.
I mean Balanced Druids and PvP kind of suck, they're just not good.
I mean, honestly, if they just gave Balanced Druids some form of mana regen, they'd be good.
Feral Druids are 7 to 8 in PvP?
What?
How do I get to that so I can actually see what?
Question 17.
Okay, hang on.
How do you know this is feral?
Sorry, I'm just half distracted here.
It says Farrell, oh, how would you rate Vanilla while Farrell drew its kit in terms of peace?
Seven?
Oh my God, no, this is a straight up, everyone here is fucking brain dead.
Oh, they're actually clueless.
No one knows how to play the game.
Farrell is horrendous.
They're actually so dumb.
They have to be warriors or rogues that just could not kill a Farrell, drew it in
bareform because they don't know how to play the game.
Holy fuck.
Ferales are the worst PvP spec for all Druids.
Even Resto is better at like actually killing people.
Ugh.
Feral is underestimated.
No it's not.
It's horrible against anyone who knows what they're doing.
The fact that it got rated higher than Balanced Druid when no Druids actually play Feral and
Dual Turnies because it's that bad.
That's embarrassing.
I swear, like it's actually the retard trap to think, oh my god, you can shift the Novas.
And I just think that Feral's just loose because of that, but they don't actually play the game
and understand what you deal, or how you deal with that as a mage.
It's not just duels though, Feral's lose to mages in open world as well.
Feral's lose to mages in every single scenario, damn near.
The only exception is maybe if Druids have that trinket in BWL that reduces the mana cost
of shifting by 100%.
PvP isn't just duels, duels are not balanced.
Feral is the best spec in the game for FC.
Actually, no it's not.
You play Resto as flag carry.
You're all retarded.
What the fuck was...
You play Resto.
You don't play feral, you take feral charge, that's it.
Brother, we don't play the game, clearly.
That's baffling.
the class is bad but like we have statistics to show
we have some of the best players in the game queuing up for a fucking dual
tourney
you can say they aren't the best players in the game but like they are
based on ratings in retail and every variation of the game known
and then they go to tbc and they get rank one and like your classic pros
can't even get gladiator
they fucking suck
and they do these two attorneys and you can literally look at the
statistics of where these classes actually perform
and you can talk about world pvp
sure i guess but i'm telling you
i don't know what the fuck you gain in world pvp is a feral that you don't
have a dual turning
in fact will turn is helping more because you least prepared for whatever
class you're going against
that's the only way you can win is a feral first most classes is some
cheesy ass bullshit
you might as well say warriors are really good in dual attorneys
because of engineering
or world pvp
the horrible
Okay now do Rhett. Rhett's horrible too. Sucks ass. But at least they're not raiding them
as a 7. That's what's crazy.
I hate that y'all are gonna say you just taunted me and you're just trolling, but
I just, I know y'all are just wrong and fuckin confidently clueless, actually pisses me off
y'all have the ability to vote on anything here, actually.
Not everyone deserves the right to vote.
I said it.
Fuck, that's funny.
No, I can't do that.
Thank you for the money, though, Loxy.
I appreciate that.
Rep powder in this seven rated in PvP as well.
Dude, what?
Ooh, look at that chest!
Holy fuck.
Actually, I'll be honest.
Yours might be better, babe.
Spell hit rating 30, more hit rating, more spell damage.
Just a little less intellect. You don't need stamina. I mean take them if no one else needs but I
Guess for PvP, but she's also just gonna buy the the five set from vendors
You should wait till tomorrow to go over the whole thing I'm gonna get angry
I'm actually gonna get fucking mad.
The only fucking feral to ever enter dual tourneys is Gordon fucking Ramsey, all right?
Not the chef, a guy's named Gordon Ramsey.
He's a great player.
However, he just goes in because he's literally the token feral and he will sit there and
he will tell you that he knows he's going in as a bad spec for fun.
And that's fine, I respect that, you do your thing.
Like he's the only feral who's ever entered these fucking dual classic turnies that I know and he will tell you it's bad
so I
seven
Stormax doesn't go in his feral
Like you're an idiot if you go in these trains is feral you're grieving yourself
Where's fucking how do I Paladin? I'm gonna get angry. I swear
How would you rate Vanilla Wilde's Resto Druid, Resto Druid and PVP 8?
Okay.
Yeah, none of these guys I don't think they understand what PVP is
Like balance druid is the best PVP spec for druid and PVP in classic and it's a one
Sure, flag carry speck is rest oh whatever
You're looking at what paladins. Oh wait, that's what paladins answered. Are we sure about that? Oh, yeah, it actually changes
Okay, so even the Druids don't understand that balanced Druid is the PvP spec.
They're fucking, I hate everyone.
Let's look at Rogues.
gave him a one. We're going to Arcatraz now. Lock in. Hold on. Okay. Beast mastery, Hunter.
Do BM Hunters have anything?
Marksman Hunter, 7.
Don't you play Survival in PvP?
I know you get Scattershot and Aimshot.
You're like this awkward hybrid.
That's what most classes are in PvP.
Solo content, seven.
Yeah, I need to actually just like take the time to look at that at some point.
You're still looking at what rogues put?
Yeah, I see that.
Oh god fucking damn it
I gotta run
All responders
Should Feraldrids have a class with consumable like rogues at thistle tea?
Uh, no
we should not. Why don't you just actually balance Feral Druids where you don't need Catnip to compete.
But I guess you can have something, but it should not be as impactful as like Catnip. Catnip was like,
you can't play without this, and then Pummeler should be removed
on top of that, and then you should just buff weapons to give attack power for Feral to
Make up for it
We need to get very flying really quick
Can we not summon her up there?
How much does flying cost?
900 she should be able to buy it
Just by flying like we're sharing money she had I know she has that much
She buys it in chat, doesn't she?
Or do you buy it in Hellfire Penis?
You buy it in Shadowmoon Valley?
Oh, god, we've never been there.
All right, so in that case
Fly to I'm gonna go with her
Fly to stonebreaker hold on Tara car
Oh
Hold this guy gave me 26 to my favorite homosexual feline. Yes, plus 10 wait. I actually oh
Plus seven for final
One gold oh
Fuck yes
I'll take those two
Dude, I'm so close to exalted
I'm right there that sucks
Maybe I'll get it 42 turn-ins. I think I get it
How many are you short not sure why am I being attacked I'm not he oh no he
attacked me I may not need any I might actually just have it oh please God
15 got me what I might be like 15 short I need a few more yeah I'm close as fuck
though I'm like one a little more than one bar away so let me see the math so
one thousand two hundred and twenty five one one two five divided by seventy five
I need 15 hours. Oh, you got me. All right
Covert to raid
Where is he
Oh, Viggy's already running, all right, fuck.
Well, you need 17?
Oh.
Warlocks in Spell Cleave Groups.
That one DPS, you know.
Yes, sir.
Sounds about right.
the fuck? this mage is polymorph me?
I think I'm going to get the
map.
Well, the hell is that he's in
the org.
All right, well, she's in the
town. It's shadow moon village,
I think, and there should be a
flight master fucker.
mail it it would take one hour I also need to buy a glyph of ferocity 34 attack
power 16 hit rating I know I need to put that on my wolfshed helm oh what is you
got it shit is so slow it's ass how good is this helmet that I'm currently
wearing. The helm of the claw. Is this worth enchanting? For tanking? Or no? It's
It's Prebis for Tank Threat Set, so it's worth enchanting, alright.
Did Vek just leave the group?
Oh, re-invite.
It's Fourth Prebis.
Well, I enchanted it, so.
Happy early B-day, one side layer.
Thanks bro.
15 times 4.
That's like 60 gold worth of coil-fing armaments.
There we go.
Give me that shit.
Fuck yes, thanks dawg.
Wait, hold on.
Dang.
It's got them Spectre goggles, okay?
Vindicators brand.
Bro, you got all door exalted?
Jeez!
He said look at these ones.
Oh, you got the uh, I mean I figured as much, yep.
The on-use goggles for the stealth detection.
Perfect.
Exalted, baby.
Let's go buy my earth warden
Yes
Yes 200 gold by the way ouch that hurts also my PvP pants probably get those while I'm here
Head and chant I got that in chant I'm chillin
Maybe I buy another just to have now just come here when I need to let's sell that
Let's go no weapon enchant now now I'm a loser all right let's convert to party
oh yeah weapon macro next you're right
Look at that fucking earth warden
So the stats are crazy it has expertise
Defense rating armor and fat stamina
I mean you really can't ask for better
stats for tanking. And it's also 700 attack power because of its epic and 70 as
opposed to my other weapon that was 300 attack power. So I gained 400 attack
power pretty much. Maybe 300 because the other weapon had strength and agi but
Yeah, not to mention the armory, uh
So
Way all the way up above us
Where are we going here it won't let you summon
do we have a key yes oh shit all right now we got we got a key damn look at that
another drink all right well I've got my tank chest equipped what is dude item
rack is griefing me how do I change like every time I try and look at anything
on the left side it's just fucked
does that to me too it's so annoying
Move the panel.
How?
Go to settings, checkmark, right side icons,
slash item rack, options.
Check, what am I fucking with here?
Scroll down. Oh
Left slot menu on the right
Menu on shift maybe menu on shift
Oh, here we go.
Weird that it's not auto-checked.
Alright, thank you.
Alright, I also take 5% less damage just from this weapon alone.
My defense is now 383.
That's still low.
I need to get more defense.
I need 4.15 instantly parried by the way
okay these mods are very annoying
Oh, okay.
the hell hello kitty all right so what you want on the lap all right
I think I'll leave this guy.
Ah hell, that cam is fucked.
Nice deathmatch, thanks dude.
Okay, how hard these guys hit for?
Is that water Walter? No, this is Teddy
Not really taking a lot of damn these guys aren't bad at all
Let's keep putting seed on this guy, we'll keep poppin it, whoa Teddy!
They ain't going behind the monitors here.
who's your good baby trying to trade me
Okay, now my weapon slot map, bro, doesn't fucking do my healing weapon.
It just does the offhand and only the offhand.
It's just cooked. Oh, hello.
I think this room is actually scary.
Like you don't want to do more than one at a time here for sure.
Are there fears? Dude, I don't know.
put tremor down. Like fuck it.
Like fuck it
Okay, well we're doing two at a time here here we go
All right, look at that.
I feel super tanky now.
I didn't pull that.
Big disbells, TY.
But is this a boss?
Zerecathy unbound? It is.
Oooh, six shoulders.
I just fucking burst him, I don't know.
I don't know what he does.
does circle on ground I see just don't stand in the black circles
Easy shouldies gross healing cloak
I
We're going upstairs
Can I help you kitty cat
Someone's at the door, alright. We're down at healer, we'll save, okay?
Don't say close to the Sentinel. Yeah, I think it does like AoE pulsing damage or whatever
It's back, alright.
Oh, I'm a cat, whoops.
Periodically discharges energy at nearby targets, healing 500 to 900 damage.
Oof, okay.
I can not tank this guy.
I got taunted him, but he doesn't care.
God damn.
of
Ahhhhhhhhhh nice.
Yeah there's the key right there.
We'll go ahead and do a full clear though.
Why not?
I
Oh
Hey chance, I ordered vase game a suck flavor and had it delivered to my office nice
What the fuck was I thinking?
but
Uh, what's her flavor called again?
Isn't it like...
I mean, aren't all gamers' sub-flavors like fucking raunchy and ridiculous?
Bloodlust?
I mean, that's pretty tame.
There's worse. There's like, titty milk, there's...
I guess the art might be a little iffy.
Whatever, dude. Just say you got interests.
I'm trying so hard to fucking taunt it's art god they hit hard I think they just do pure
magic damage. So Armored doesn't do a damn thing. God! Move. Oh, wait a second. It's
one of those guys. I think they do less damage as they move. Or maybe he was
standing in some bullshit. I don't know. I'm waiting for it. There it is. Damaged on
and cr- oh and you move him out of the fucking beam.
Yeah, that would do it.
5k damage increase if it stacks to 10.
It was stacked to 10 for a pretty good amount of time there.
shum and was just having to blast heals automatically fix 450 shadow damage every
two seconds to nearby enemies it's actually crazy how how fucked melee gets
in TBC every mechanic is just anti melee
I'm dead here.
I didn't even get the health pot off.
Oh I think they have a buff.
Only want to do 12 at a time there?
You mean 1.
But yeah, clearly.
We should have an onk.
Cosmetic bark skin.
Yeah, let me put bark skin up.
That's a good idea.
25% reduced cast-time movement and attack speed per solider.
EW.
All right, well that fucks people
was iron lung good I haven't seen it whoa
Oh.
All right, Teddy, it's time to fuck off.
My foot's falling asleep sitting down like this.
No.
Uh oh, he's going to fall.
I feel him slipping.
slipping oh maybe not
yeah in tropic aura
Oh hold on we got a double here kill this one first
I like how I marked one with Skull and it just dies first or dies second rather I don't
know no one ate two flying fox
this looks a little spooky these MC all right the temptress all right let's
killer than
movies
fuck
i mean
ice could not get threat
What the fuck?
Our healer is MC'd here.
Wow.
This is a normal dungeon too.
This is fucking crazy.
I mean, I understand that I don't know any of the mechanics, and we're not really playing
that well, but... wow.
Wait, did you release spirit?
Babe, no.
Oh no, the mage did too.
You got to run back now or actually what we can do we can just summon y'all here just
run to the dungeon yeah just fly to dungeon we summon we have to open it for her oh my
Oh my God, you're right.
Well, Lash, can you open?
Okay, you can open it.
See, Lash and Beast Mouse run back, we're good.
Scott, we're good, you stay here.
tree menders belt do you want this are you kidding me that dropped it's a pretty
gosh darn good belt I'll be honest better than mine
oh my fucking webcam
Why is your floor so weak?
Why is your floor so weird? That's the top of my desk.
Uh, we gotta summon the mage as well.
Oh, you're out?
Oh no.
Oh, that's crazy. Alright.
Um, are there any spawns maybe?
Protein spawns or?
I mean do we try to form in?
We died to this pool, maybe we can be like a little better with it?
Alright, let's just wait on that, she's almost there.
I'm going to go to the bathroom.
I
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
Wait, what's going on over here, huh?
need that. Alright, let's get some buffs.
How are you not exalted yet? With who?
Uh, hold on, I want to track lower city.
Wait, I can pull one at a time?
The fuck?
amount of all threat generated by 500%.
My god, he fucking...
Our shaman got mind controlled and just popped lust.
Are you kidding me?
Wait, what?
We're going to have to do this twice?
Why do we have to do this twice?
Wait, I never turned in my quest.
Uh...
No, no, no, babe, you don't understand.
You're fine. We already finished this. You're in the same part as me.
We're just clearing this because we might as well farm Rep.
This is not the dungeon with the master in it. No, you're good. You're good
We got the fragment at the very beginning, but we might as well finish this dungeon that's kind of what's going on
What do these bosses do?
I don't know fuck it
Oh, it's one at a time, okay
Spins? I assume walkout. I can't kick that. Immune to taunt by the way. I think it's a
a threat drop guys I can't I think it's a threat drop I can't do shit here
it's a fun wand wait did you just need that shaman it's a wand I don't know you
didn't need it the mage needed it I got it confused
got the blues confused with each other
right not sure what this guy does
Burns here by enemies for fire damage every 3 seconds.
Another anti melee mechanic.
Whirlwind anti melee mechanic.
damn that ring is good too ok
where the fuck do we go now
Grats lash
Oh, did I miss it said here, but where's here? Oh, there's a left here. Oh
Okay, I
Don't know these dungeons at all botanica architras. I don't the mechan are I don't know them at all
I've avoided those dungeons as much as I
I possibly can.
Botanical you'll have a couple wipes, Mechanar too.
Jeez.
I am the tank, Steve. You can fuck off. Even though I'm not a prop, Pally.
I think I do remember spamming Mekanar for something.
I don't know what.
I think there's a boss that drops something I need.
Was it Thorian Weave Cloak for tanking maybe?
There's something off the first boss, I don't know.
Last boss, Trinket.
Oh, hold on.
No, Botanica Staff, no.
It was normal Mechanar, and I don't know why I was spamming it.
Warlock damage, by the way.
God
Okay, down goes our warlock.
Oh
This is
I don't know, it was dropping to places, I don't know.
Yeah, again, we're doing normals and we're not really playing it like Heroic or Hardcore,
but I mean, fuck.
die so fast and maybe people will be a little more scared with threat I'll have like a kill
order.
I'm trying to re-rolling a prop alley. Prop alleys do less threat than me on small
I mean single targets specifically.
Big demon man.
Okay.
Do we stack for that meteor?
When casting Meteor Stack in, stay out.
No idea.
Meteor?
Oh fuck, so you- okay, you do stack for Meteor.
Got it, okay.
Oh goodness gracious.
That's more mechanics than AQ-40 all around.
I'm just thinking of dumbfucks trying to do this. I don't see him stacking for Meteor.
That's an automatic one-shot. They're dead.
Oh no.
Stay sacked as range and have tank pull back to us.
I mean, you could do that, yeah.
You guys just stay in the stack and I'll pull it to y'all I see what you mean I
Can do that
All right, we got some doom lords or doom bringers. I don't know what these guys do
They got a knockback. That's fine. They've got a big war stump. Not the biggest deal
I'm tanky enough.
Alright, y'all just stay in the stack here.
Let's y'all drink first.
No meteor, forget.
Uh, what should Vicky go besides tailoring?
She's gonna go tailoring.
What else does she go?
I guess she can go like mining or something to like make money.
Drop jewel card unless you're rich.
Well, I need that for the stats.
Enchanting?
I guess the enchants, yeah.
What the fuck is this?
What professions are you going?
I was thinking about going jewel crafting and chanting for the super gems and the four stats to rings.
I'll just tell the prince you release the business.
Kind of expensive.
But I guess duels for gold.
Streamer Benny's comes in there.
Not engineering.
You can't really utilize engineering in Arena.
I think you could do like an engineering belt among some other stuff, but there's goggles.
But you might as well get the jewel crafting trinket.
That gives you stealth detection.
It's really good on use
Rocket gloves that's wrath rocket boots don't work in arena the belt doesn't work in arena. Thank God they fixed that I
Fixed change was miserable
So engineering it really isn't like the PvP thing anymore
We're in Bonzo's Brass Millhouse Mana Storm.
I think Viki and I actually saw someone named Dremlock on a private server and he was an
Ellie Shaman and I wasn't sure if it was actually Dremlock, it might have been.
I don't know what server this was on, maybe Viki remembers.
It's probably a fanboy to be honest with you.
Enging for Rogue is still good.
Yeah, you go engineering for the goggles cause stealth protections busted, yeah.
But as it drew it, eh.
I
What does this guy drop?
It seems to drop, ooh a really, you're spell critical hit, or chance on spell critical
hit to increase your spell damage.
That's not very good for a shadow priest I don't think.
Is it?
No way.
Fun offhand though.
Pretty good boots too.
Only Mind Blast will create, also Shadow or Death, right?
If that's Quagsai and Scrire's trinket, I think you all just roll on it because it's
not bis for anyone.
Because you gotta get Quagsai, that's for sure.
Okay, rolling on that as a healer is troll.
That is troll.
That's crazy.
What do you have?
troll. Oh, AQ 40? No it's not, it's good for us to summon, is it? I don't know, for
I don't care
Wow Jesus Christ
If you need it just need it at CBA
Will you hate me if I need I
Mean
What do you get as a rest of shaman
Is it bis for wrestle shop? I don't I don't if it's actually crazy
If you can pass on the boots, what does she have?
Yeah, that was really good
Can I need the trinket? Yes
You both can if it ain't omega bis. Oh, she won it
A passed. 86. All right. Yeah, let's go turn this in. I need a mage port to shot. What
What is the next part of this quest? Is it Dernhold?
I don't even know what it is.
Oh, it's Black Marass. Okay.
Oh, maybe I'll get my trinket.
I remember running Black Marass for like an entire day trying to get that thing. The hourglass.
Be careful.
Uh, we need to go to Caverns of Time.
Isn't there a portal in chat to Caverns?
Or is that not in the game yet?
Silver Moon.
That's not in the game yet?
Okay, well, the fastest way to get there in that case would be, uh, is it a Thunderbluff
angle yeah I think go to Thunderbluff and just fly to Gadgetstand it's gonna be a
flight no way around it
swim from Oregon little bro all right ooh babe if you haven't trained there's
a priest trainer right here
Get a weapon enchant. Oh, yeah, I should. What's the best enchant? Is it 35 agility?
I'm gonna give lead to Skarm. I'm gonna give you lead. I'm gonna leave group and get an
and then chant really quick.
Wow, no one invited me.
Fuck, they might want me to go to TB, though.
Okay, he does. Damn.
I see an org he is I got to go to work really quick
And they'll just summon me I guess
Did you enchant your legs no I haven't enchanted my legs either with heavy club tough that's 400 HP more that I could get
I should put it on these pants. They're insane
Expensive is this gonna be
Ask I mean
I think we might need or Vicky has to go
We might actually have to call it here
Not giving the heavy cleft of set
Yeah, guys I think we're gonna call it
I know y'all are flying there but I think we gotta go
I don't have to go but Vicky does she has to get ready
because we have somewhere we're going.
Might do the rest tomorrow or something.
How does Boomi feel later on in this X-Pack?
You put up Fairy Fire and then do less damage than everyone.
I gotta get a meta socket too. Oh God
You might like the Druid questions at 28 and 29 should manual crowd pummeler be bis for feral druids. No, thank God
Should power shifting be supported without needing to use wolf's at helm
Yes
Just buff your literally just change the talent and rest or a infure
60 energy as opposed to 40. That's it and the removal set from the game
It doesn't need to be a fucking enchant
Should fellow Druids have class because of a consumer like looks that I read that
Should balance shrewd's get more spell hit baked into their talents. Yes, they should
Should all Druids be able to train a mount and run as fast as a mount
Wait, so they want Druids to have a mount form?
No.
Ew, what?
No.
Travel form should be slower than mounts.
That's awful.
Most people are saying yes?
Do they even know what they're asking?
Paladins and Warlocks get mounts that, okay, but do you understand like instantly shape-shifting
into a mount like how that can fuck things as not a non-instant cast?
But then just don't give us a mount.
But don't just don't give us one.
It's fine.
You don't need one.
All Druids be able to train a mount form and run as fast as a mount. I am reading it, right?
Ooh, 50 gold. Thanks for a twink
Retail deer form, ew gross, and then you like enter- no just fuck off. No travel form, fuck them out
Uh, hold on this guy linked the shit
So I need
greater playing our essence. Let's go here. I need six. That's five. Large prismatic shards.
Oop, eight of them, not travel form, but turn into a mount only out of combat.
Y'all, it's going to get abused and it's going to affect a lot of things, just don't
fucking do that.
Paladins and Warlocks get mounts, so that's great, let them have it.
Druids have travel form at level 30, that's what they get.
They don't need mounts at 40 for free.
Stupid.
and that's what we're going to
at 30 they get cap for moving speed at you know 20 they don't need a free mount as well
even if we're just going to talk about saving money and all that bullshit pass that just
takes away from like people being like a warlock or a paladin unique classes that get their
own shit.
Where is this guy?
I need this and then that.
Let's do 15 gold tip.
Major agility.
Very nice.
Thank you, thank you.
35 Agita weapon, very nice.
And then I need to get heavy Cleft hoof leg armor, or what is it?
500 gold for one?
What?
No.
No
That is such an insane pass
How much you prime will nethers go for I guess you can't sell them just wait. Yeah, I'm waiting
Is there a blue armor I
Mean 73 gold is also retarded. I mean I'm fine. I don't need I'll be heroics tomorrow
Uh, what else do I need to fuck with?
Maybe I enchant my chest with more Stam.
Armor, let me look up the two ring.
Not in here.
Armor, cloth, 3,300 gold for the helm.
strike hood. Yeah that's more than I have. God.
would you buy the natural like where's the weapon natural fury so this weapons good but
I'm not gonna pay 2000 gold for it I'm gonna wait for it to go down immensely I would
pay like I feel like this will go down to 500 gold in time. It's just not good for anything
except PVP power shifting and people that don't want to run steam vaults at all for an even
better weapon of tanking. Like the fact that you can get this Earthwarden is the reason
This staff is overpriced.
That's simple.
Give it time.
That goes down.
I'll buy it later.
I don't, this PVP isn't even out yet.
Um, what else should I check the auction house for?
I mean, I guess like Mooncloth.
I thought Mooncloth was like, you can only make once every day or whatever.
Mooncloth. Oh, there we go. Oh, that's not terrible. 79 gold per. It's not horrible. It's
definitely expensive. Night Slayer economy is fucked. Is it not fucked on Dream Scythe?
Dream Scythe is way better.
How much is the staff of Natural Fury on Dream Scythe?
Just curious.
And how much are spell strike items?
Read Gilchats, stars and Vec are having a virgin off.
Checking, hold on.
How did this start stars?
Some guy said don't buy those, we get too late.
200 gold, nice joke, really?
Completely made that up, good luck scrub.
he linked his quagmire marins i instead i win
and he linked his girdle
i win
and then star said looking enjoy lfg rogue
vex said i have a friend's list
its scrolls he said badge count
castors are begging for my imp expose
not many badges focused on gold you get it surely have a helmet chant though
by now
does. No enchant on that. Curious, are any of those friend listers mages? I don't know
So what's- okay.
Autistic.
Alright, I gotta respec- uh...
This is a tank build.
This is my PVP build.
this 50.
Five unspent talent points.
I care for improved leader of the pack. I feel like I don't.
Not as a tank, but as DPS or feral PVP.
We'll do that. I like that build. There we go.
Can we hearth out of here?
All right, I guess I'll go quest in Netherstorm a little bit, make some money, get some gold,
I've got mail plus one gold
Or maybe I go buy my PvP set
Hold on
factions
How do I see, like, what reputation do you need to buy the PVP gear?
It looks like you just need honored.
So maybe I should go to Thraumar and see if I can buy stuff there.
And then other places.
It's in the PVP tab, all right.
MVP, reputation, dragonhide, okay, so I'm keepers of time, ooh,
Thrallmar gives me my chest, damn, I can almost get my
four set, fuck, I need to get Shatar honored, and I need to
get keepers of time honored, oh, I don't have my four set,
Are you kidding me?
What's my shitar at?
Oh my God, it's so close.
Fuck.
Keepers of time, I assume, is completely cooked.
Keepers is just one Hillsborough in seven black masks.
do ildari tabard for giga reputation
would it give me that rep though
just do the quest in black morass and you're there
you get a k rep for finishing it was on say is there any way i can get to tar
rep just really quick
i need seventeen hundred rep
That's it.
And I only need to get honored.
Black Marass, Potanica, turning items.
Like what items did I turn in for that?
Fel Armaments.
The problem is, I don't have enough time for a dungeon, guys, so dungeons are off the table.
I probably have, like, 30 minutes.
Not even.
I guess it's probably going to be an off-stream thing.
Let me fly to Thrallmar, buy what I can for now I guess.
Get my chest, get my helm.
I really need my gloves too.
It's actually so annoying.
For the first two seasons of TBC Blizzard was like on crack and they had no clues
going on.
So all the feral druid PvP gear in the game increases your healing done.
They didn't realize that feral didn't really need or want that until season 3.
Don't forget to alter up to 599 before spamming bot by armaments.
Let's go through all of our firsts.
aren't they always on crack?
Yeah.
Tom Shilton hated Paladin so much that he thought that they didn't need resilience on their PVP
gear even as holy because they could heal. Okay, but like did they actually send that?
Well, they've got resilience on this shit
For initial launch. Yeah, well they actually shipped this fucking trash can
Healing plus 18 healing plus 31 healing plus 33
And I'll go to season two literally an entire season later. You think they'd get their shit together
Nope. Healing plus 33. Healing plus 31. Healing. And then we go to season 3.
This is when they started realizing, oh, instead maybe let's give them armor pen instead of healing.
Or critical strike rating plus 17. Very different.
I don't need healing. I just farm two sets of gear swaps. I mean, feral's get plus healing
through their nurturing instinct talent. Increase your healing spells by 100% of your agility.
I have plus 286 healing without a healing weapon on right now. I'll put a healing weapon
and I can knock that to like 500.
It's pretty good.
Uh-oh.
I wonder what I gem, I guess I gem probably like Agi and Rizzil.
Probably.
You and Nick still besties?
No, I hate that guy.
Ugh.
I hate that I do a podcast with him every single week.
Ugh.
Where's that rep vendor?
Aha!
Dragon hide chest, minus 56 gold.
Worth it?
And what was the other one?
Lower city, so I gotta go back to chat.
Great.
What brings you here, be careful.
Ghosts and Orion first, I already bought my pants from there.
So I got my chest, I got my pants, I'm gonna have my helm.
I just want my four set, man.
The four set is so good for, it's required for Feral Druid.
It's 15% movement speed in addition to your cat form speeds.
I gotta go gem this bastard too.
That's gonna be expensive.
That's a lucky.
How do people have 10k gold?
They swipe or they're doing quests.
Or they're mining.
Soon you won't be able to mine for money though because the bots will take over.
Mining's already getting chalked.
Yep.
Mining is gonna go down.
I mean, the main people who are buying all of your Matzvec were gold buyers.
Gold buyers who are just have too much money and they're swiping so hard I
Sold too cheap TBH early. It is so much higher price wise, but everyone's mining. Yeah, a lot of people are mining
Would you recommend retail or classic I don't know man probably I would recommend classic
i would recommend tbc it just started you're not missing anything
like the raids aren't even out yet
but retail does have the new expansion around the corner
for their trimming a lot of add-ons that could be fun where's the lower city rep
fuck
isn't growl out now
grueling eggs are not out yet
retail is so dead stock hoping
uh...
i think it's just dead amongst you know
online people who tend to talk
but I mean population-wise it's got a lot.
I just don't know if they're human beings.
They are, but they also kind of are.
It's like Candy Crush players.
And the thing is, retail is 1,000 times harder too.
So like they're gaming, they're hitting buttons.
I wonder what metasocket I use.
Probably just a crit.
one see how expensive those meta gems are I bet they're so expensive I bet it's
fucked let's do I know delicate gems with a agility our armor no it's gem
red delicate for agility those are cheap I have those in my mailbox 20 gold for
six agility okay and then it's 75 gold for red gems eight edgy okay what about
resilience
I don't know what resilience is called.
This is why I hate this dumb fucking add-on.
Mystic.
I think that sounds right, actually.
Yep.
45 gold per resilience.
Shifting Knights eye, 4 agi, 6 stamina.
The pattern is 64 gold.
Hmm.
Let me see the meta sockets.
Uh, Gem...
Meta.
It's like relentless, I think.
Ooh, no one has he yet.
I'm pretty sure it's like reputation with the, uh, Constatorium or something, right?
So no one has the 12 Agi increased critical damage, Meta Gem.
24 AP and minor speed is in. Get the spirit shard one for now. The spirit shard one.
Oh that is. I just wait. You know? These aren't gonna be used in heroics. It's definitely a
weight angle. I think that's it. Eight spirit charts. Beneratera car, easy meta gem for
now. Can someone link me that meta gem? Does anyone have like a helmet with it in so I can
to see it. Swift Windfire. 20 AP and minor run speed increase. The reason why this kind
of sucks? I don't really use the minor run speed at all. I guess I could use it actually,
Then I would change my boot and chant.
Eh.
It's almost free.
Yeah, Spirit Shards, I have 10, I don't use them for anything else, I don't think, so maybe you're right.
Oh, we might have to figure this out tomorrow.
GG's everyone.
I will be live tomorrow.
Tomorrow I have, uh, I will be playing WoW all day.
I have a sponsor tomorrow, it is, what's that game called?
What's the little nightmare's devs made a game? Fuck, what's it called?
Sea of, not sea of remnant, no. I am not playing sea of remnant anymore.
What's it, re-animal? That's right. So little nightmare devs made a new game.
I think they left the company. Maybe I'm not sure and they made their own. It's like little nightmares, but
It's the actual devs and I'm sponsored to play that tomorrow
Pretty late in the day because I think it releases really late
Or is that Friday? Oh, no, I don't have a sponsor tomorrow. No, I don't I'm dumb. That's on Friday
Tomorrow I have a podcast that's right
Okay, tomorrow I'll be streaming normally and I'll have to go to do a podcast. That's right. Either way, GG's everyone. I will be on tomorrow. So see you then. Appreciate y'all watching. Peace.
Peace.
Boop.
Biped. I mean it's...