I'm sorry.
Let's go.
Good morning my friends and happy Thursday guys we made it to the level 70 club hype
all it feels good.
Today we can finally begin to play the game.
Good morning.
wife about hitting level 70 and she's like oh nice you did it so you're maxed out huh
and I'm like yeah I can start to play now and like the look she gave me was just like
what are you talking about what are what are you actually talking about but it's true guys
we can actually start playing the game we're level 70 big up alright so today previous
Grinding it. All right. I'm very excited. We're on almost an hour early today. I guess like 45 minutes early
We'll call it 45 minutes early so we can
game
Up
All right, so we can game up heavily. Yeah, happy birthday to Mon parent. Happy level 30, bro
Level 30 IRL
Yeah, that's kind of how it goes. I was gonna add something to this Weakor real quick before I forgot
Is there nothing here? Okay, let's go this and then duplicate and then call it wings and then call it trigger and then call it
Avenging
Nice
And then here
Move it right there
Yeah, there we go
Look at that, baby
Big set of wings up big set of wings up right there boys
Dude the wings are one of the coolest looking spells in the entire game, dude. Oh
Oh
That looks very nice Pika spent 9,000 gold last night on a rep and on flying what you can buy rep
What kind of rep
What are we talking about here? Oh
outdoor rep. Oh
Okay, definitely might need to figure that out then
I need to figure out the epic flying and rep situation at some point guys
Last night I got in touch with subtle subtle is a prop paladin expert
you guys told me to chat with him about prop pally theory crafting turns out he
has a complete guide to prop paladin okay so I read this last night and a lot of
really good information in here. There's a lot of very, very good information in here.
One of the big things I noticed and I talked to him about that shocked me is that you always
use judgment of righteousness. So I asked him, when do you use seal of vengeance? And he
He told me, un-keybind it.
Don't even press it.
So there it is guys, there it is.
You un-keybind Seal of Righteousness straight from subtle himself.
He talks about it in here a bit more.
Seal of Vengeance is more trouble than it's worth.
it's a tiny DPS increase on average to weave or to twist SOV and SOR if played perfectly.
But in practice, your SOV stacks will constantly fall off and it's common for it to be a loss.
So that's the more technical answer is that most of the time you're probably going to
lose DPS doing it.
So it's just not worth it.
That's the more technical answer.
So anyway, that's kind of good to know.
The next thing is, I talked to him about builds, right?
By the way, seal twisting for Prott, like generally not worth it either, but we kind
of already knew that.
Greater Blessing Stam, we kind of already knew being uncritable.
So we're going for 5.4% reduced crit chance in Heroics and 5.6% reduced crit chance in
raids so that is 485 defense and heroics and 490 in raids that's good info to have
more info here's like a table and a chart explaining how it works with resilience okay talents
talents talents talents we had a lot of questions about this yesterday we have imp
Sanctiora build, right? Or I guess, oh, I thought it was Sanctuary aura, Sanctiora.
Oh, it's Blessing of Sanctuary and Sanctiora. Okay. Anyway, so if you have no
ret in your group, you can do the Sanctiora build for a raid. If you have no
ret in your group but you want more stamina, you can put in more stamina
here. If you have a ret in your group and you want more threat, you can do this.
And if you have a ret in your group and you want more AOE threat with less single target,
you can go this. So it's like super interesting how many builds there really are.
You guys want the link? Here you go. Here's the link. I linked it for you.
Anyway, I asked about Heroics because in his Google Doc, there was no like Heroic build.
and he linked me two different heroic builds.
The first one is this,
which goes Sanctity Aura with no Avenger Shield.
The second one is Avenger Shield with no Sanctity Aura.
It's kind of confusing.
He says I can play either one
and that like most of the time,
he would prefer the Sanctity Aura build in heroics
and in raid.
Crazy.
So we're going to have to, and anyway, this is a lot of like sweaty information to start
the stream, but I thought it was really interesting to read through.
Talks about buffs and gear options and in everything.
One of the things I didn't want to open up though was the gear.
Up and down, thanks for the primes.
These were, thanks for the T1.
Where's the link?
chat. Let me see if I can... The main thing I wanted to look at was the gear, the pre-bis,
which was up here somewhere. Okay, pre-bis set. So, there's a billion different ways
we could build up pre-bis. Like, literally, like a billion... Like, there's so many different
sets, dude. But what I thought was cool is on this 60 upgrades link, he puts, like, all
All of the different items that you could get as like decent upgrades, like second base
kind of a deal when you scroll down here.
Anyway, for normal dungeons, these are the items I could potentially be after, which
means today we have four items from Steam Vaults we could get, three from Shattered
holes, two from Mech, two from Bot, one from Black Morse, one from Arquitraz, three from
Shadow Labs, one from Caverns of Time for normal dungeons, assuming we don't get in
the heroics until a bit later today.
So I think a couple steam vaults are in order, a couple shattered hulls are in order, a couple
Shadow Labs are in order, grind the rut, grind the gear.
So there we go.
Link it over on YouTube.
Got you, bro.
got you got you a vendor shield isn't that good in heroics because you need to see see a couple mobs every pole and shield would just break the trap the sap and other CC you do a lot of judgment body pulling right that's kind of what I'm hearing as well yeah yeah so anyway I wanted to talk to you guys about this
The difference between these two builds.
Not these two builds.
Sorry.
The difference between these two builds.
Okay.
So this build is the Sanctiora build.
There's only a couple points different.
This one is the Avenger Shield build.
The Avenger Shield build gets
two less points in melee crit but two more points in reckoning and then you
have one swap out sanctity aura for a venture shield that's literally it so
if we're gonna do a little notepad for this it is for the sanctity how do you
spell this thing sink sanctity aura build and then you have the adventures
build. For Sanctity Aura, you're gonna get minus Devotion Aura Armor, right? You're gonna lose
out on 861 armor, which is, I think, pretty notable to say, minus 861 armor. Just doing a little
theory crafting here. You're going to lose two points in a reckoning, which I think is
a little bit more valuable than 2% melee crit, because it's just your melee weapon. You're
going to gain 2% melee crit, and you're going to obviously gain plus 10% holy damage, which
which is like pretty good, right?
Like that's the whole reason you're kind of doing it.
With the Avengers build, it's just the inverse of this.
You're gonna lose the 10% holy damage.
You're going to lose the 2% melee crit.
But you're going to gain two points in reckoning,
just the exact opposite of what we just typed.
And you're gonna gain plus 800 armor for Divaora.
You're also, I guess I didn't say,
You're going to gain the utility of a ranged pull slash slow,
like a vent or shield pulling, right?
Good morning, gang.
Lose utility of ranged pull slow.
That's the difference between the two-volt.
That's the difference between it, right there.
You know, Shackity, thanks for the two-once up.
There it is.
Here it is.
What do you guys think?
Can't block while casting?
Yeah, you would only ever pull with it.
Well, you want Sanctity after being geared
due to group increase threat, maybe.
Yeah, maybe Sanctity or it's better
when you have more gear.
You go mitigation until you have avoidance, then swap.
That might make sense.
You go the Avengers build for the start
so you can get better snap threat
and you have more armor.
You have more mitigation with this build.
I guess it's just the armor really.
That's yeah, that's literally it is just the armor and then once I get more gear swap over
I don't know what do you guys think
Avengers plus one do you guys think the Avengers build is better or the sanctity aura build one if you guys are just tuning in
This is the sanctity aura. This is the Avengers
The only difference or a couple points. This is the breakdown of the difference
Avenge to start Sanctity, Avenger is Avenger, Sank, Sank, this is tough, it's a tough one
dude, I don't know man, it's a very tough one.
It feels nice to interrupt mobs. It doesn't interrupt mobs and TBC.
I've never seen people not play a shield in heroics.
Yeah.
Thanks for Dungeons. You'll want that range pull. That's contradictory, Justin.
Do you mean Avenger Shield for Dungeons because you want the range pull?
The real answer is preference, yeah.
How much damage reduction Oz wants to slam some dungeons?
How much damage reduction is 861 armor?
Like how much, what does that even, what does that even do?
54% versus 52%.
52.2, 54, it's 1.8% less damage.
No, it's around 3.5% relative,
not absolute. That's fair. That's fair. I mean, that's decent. You will die in heroics
with sanctuary build. Your job is to tank. I mean, it's literally the difference of like
2% damage bro. It's like it's not that one is way tankier.
Okizu, thanks for the 2-1 sub.
The thing about a vendor shield that I kind of like
is this. It dazes mobs on the way in for six seconds. Think about this in a practical sense.
Mobs are dazed in the running towards you. While they're running towards you dazed,
a warlock could dot up. A hunter could start damage. It's free damage as the mobs are running in
that aren't hitting you your life is staying full and your group gets free
damage because you already have good snap threat on the mobs pre dots
hunter's marks or whatever like you can start hitting them on the way in right
that's kind of what I like about it like it's very practical you know do I get
noticed all in public no not too much few times a year max unless I'm at like
convention. Mages don't use blizzards. I don't know. It sounds to me you're leaning towards
adventures. What I like about adventures is I can do my own polls. I feel like it's kind of,
okay, what I don't like about adventures, like what I don't like about Sanctity Aura, I think is
two things. One, I need someone else to pull for me or I need to just body pull, which is kind
kind of annoying.
And two, I have to tell my group to go easy
on threat on the pole.
I have to say, hey guys, can you give me a second for threat?
That's annoying.
Like, I don't want to be that tank.
I want to be able to just send a shield
and it's like, try to pull off me, bro.
Good luck, you know?
Adventures is just more chill.
Yeah, I don't know.
The negative thing about adventures, though,
is what someone else already mentioned.
is it can grief your pull by breaking a sap,
because you don't get to choose who it jumps to.
So like, you can try to avoid breaking the sap,
but sometimes it might grief it.
Yo, Quinn, thanks for the pran.
Just use your dual spec.
Yeah, maybe I just used my dual spec right now.
I was gonna use one, my dual spec for PvP,
but I don't know, maybe I just use my dual spec,
make both and kinda swap around.
You guys wanna do that?
right but you're not playing with noobs you're gonna be playing with chads I
mean the thing about chads is like they want to pump and using a build to allow
them to pump is good you know what I mean Johnny thanks so much for the T1
sub Quinn thanks for the prime man aka a sank
Sanctity aura, you guys think Sanctity aura allows them to pump more?
I would say Sanctity aura allows them to pump less.
Yes, I do 10% more damage, but threat once the pull is established is never the issue.
The problem is threat on the pull.
Am I wrong about this?
Once the threat is established, even with the vendor shield, they're not ripping.
It's threat at the start before the threat is established.
That's what a vendor shield helps with.
The shield is infuriating as a DPS player.
Why is that the case?
I rip aggro from the slow days.
What do you mean by that?
I would like to hear your perspective.
You rip aggro from the slow days.
Maybe just test it out.
I think I'm going to make both builds right now.
I'm just going to make both builds and just swap back and forth with dual spec.
Like that has to be, that has to be, right?
Because I can talk all day about my preference in theorycraft, but like at the end of the
day I feel like I need to just try them out and just see how it plays out.
I need to respec and Stormwind.
Let's get up.
Let's get over to Stormwind.
DPS pull the mobs off to you by the time they get to you.
A lot of people, yeah, I mean, that's a very fair point
with a venture shield.
Since the days happens, the hunter is going to start it.
People are going to start attacking him
by the time they get to me.
I already lost threat.
So we spent 10 minutes yapping about nothing then I mean that I mean what
else do we really do here like right like that's that's that's it literally
exactly what we do all day every day is we yap about nothing it's fantastic
yeah mobs takes forever to get into position so a vendor if you're a DPS
player does a vendor shield annoy you or does do you like it for the snap threat
And that Pali's can pull love the content.
Keep it up.
Breaks from Germany, D.
Not at all.
A noise me.
A noise melee.
Yes, because you can't pump.
Interesting.
It's great for polls, but less so for actual threat.
You know what?
I think I mean, I'm going to make both builds,
like I just said, but I think I'm
gonna try the sink build first. If I can get comfortable with it, it's probably better.
So for this primary build, I'm gonna do, I'll just do this one. Um, I'll make both.
Okay.
Oh, one of the things I didn't mention is both of these builds have two points in improved
judgment, which to me is so smart.
I don't know why the other builds skip improved judgment.
Improved judgment seems cracked.
Because it's every time you judge, it's snap threat.
In dungeons or in raids, that's just nice.
That alt tabbing was ASMR. I'm glad you enjoyed as much as I did.
I thought the same thing. The alt tabs sound nice, huh?
Okay, and then...
Sanctuary.
Okay, and then I, what's the add-on
that saves your key binds?
Do I have that?
My slot, I have it.
I'm gonna my slot all of these keys
when I go to my second spec.
Yo, dragon, good morning.
All right, slash my slot.
Let's see how does this work.
Okay, new.
Wait, how do I do this?
Export.
This is new prop paladin.
Save?
Did I do that right?
I feel like I didn't do that right.
Okay, yeah, now I did it.
I think I got it now.
I think that looks good.
Okay, now I'm going to swap to my second build and then I'll do the SanctiDior build.
See how that goes.
Which is this build right here.
And this is the build that I'm going to try out today.
At least first. I'll try. I guess I'll try both today,
but I want to try this one first and just see.
I do lose two more points in reckoning,
But I don't think it's that big of a deal.
I'm going to gain that 10% damage.
So like my damage is definitely going up no matter what.
I just lose a Fender Shield, which is just so interesting.
Well, there we go.
Sancti Diora.
And then my slot will go to this and then import.
Locked in a dial, baby.
Cool.
And then sanctity aura I'll put here.
And then for my weak aura, I'll have to add that to this.
I always misspell this sanctity area.
Don't forget other utilities and dungeons like Hunter Misdirect.
You can use builds around that too.
Yeah, true.
Very true.
Okay.
What's the add-on that checks for low spell ranks?
I feel like I should just run this.
What's the add-on called?
I guarantee there's something low.
Rank sentinel.
Let me download that.
I am just,
I just don't wanna have the same thing happen to me.
How do I do it?
It says spells caught in zero, is that it?
Detected zero low ranks this session.
Oh, do I have to use it?
Use Nova spell rank checker, Nova ranker is better.
I don't know. I don't know how to open this thing.
checks your hot bar for any low ranks and highlights them.
Just click the button in your spell book.
Oh wow, that's really good.
Okay, so the only one is my rank one consecration,
which I actually do want.
Wow, that's a great add-on.
Get rid of this.
What was the other one called?
I'm gonna delete that thing instantly.
Ring sentin' lookin' out of here.
Okay, sick, um, great, great, great, great, man this is gonna be weird, this is gonna
be crazy, this is gonna be crazy weird.
Well, we got our two builds set, locked in.
Avenger Shield's gonna give you more control over where mobs are, and that's real tank
stuff.
I think people are basically saying the opposite.
Avenger Shield's gonna grief control over where mobs are, because when you're in Heroics,
You have to do specific pulls, like sap one, trap one,
sheep one, or whatever.
And if I use Avenger Shield, it's going to break CC.
And days, I don't want the days.
I don't want to break CC.
You want to be able to pinpoint, OK, I want this mob.
Let me body pull, drag one here, judge one for Snap Threat,
and then AOE.
So Avenger Shield kind of griefs it.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's what people are trying to tell me.
It does not break CC.
A vendor shield doesn't break CC.
It breaks CC 100%, yes it does.
I feel like it totally does.
It didn't become smart until Wrath.
Oh, okay.
So when Wrath, they fixed it.
Okay, that's good to know.
Okay, anyway, we got all of that behind us.
If you guys are just tuning in, we have been getting real sweaty with the Prott Paladin guide
by Subtle. We've been getting very sweaty with it.
I think the best place I could go right now is Shattered Halls to get Dauntless Handguards,
Figuring of the Colossus, and Potential Gauntlets of Righteousness.
It's got to be shattered halls, yeah?
Confirmed that it does not break sap on a pole. I ran it last night
Hmm
someone someone is someone is wrong
someone is wrong
it just didn't hit the SAP target that was luck if it hits it breaks period
Yeah, hodes are...
Did it hit the sap and not break, or did it just not hit the sap target?
Because it could have just been lucky not hitting the sap target.
If it hits it, I think it would break it. I mean, it does damage. I don't see why it wouldn't.
Just test it.
Is there any rogues near Shatt?
We could literally just go like Sapa Mob and then I go Avenger Shield it, right?
Mythbusters it?
If there's any rogues near like Tarakar, I could Mythbuster right now, live, on stream.
Shattered hulls, I think is where we want to go.
Yo, Oz, I don't know if you're watching the stream or here.
Let's see if he wants to do Shattered Walls.
Game time, sick.
Is your bro around?
Let me see if it's just Oz or if his bro's here.
This guy says I can sap for you if you want to test it.
Yeah, let's test it.
Oh gosh, I'll be there in an hour. One sec, dude.
Pick up your daily dungeon quest. What the heck is that?
Is it here? Wanted Tempest Forged Destroyers? Is that it? Daily dungeon.
Let's go do that. Let's pick it up.
I think the claim is being misinterpreted the argument is shield breaks out
But if shield ignores sapped enemies when you target something else then that works the way you want it since you
Won't target the sapped mob. Well. Yeah. Yeah, either way would work. That's a fair point. Yeah, exactly
Like what like the way we would test it is we would just drag two mobs together
one sapped and I a vendor shield the non-sapped mob and see what happens
I think it would break it.
Did you see Peekaboo got fast flight?
We're going to do this, huh?
We're going to flight shame people for going too slow.
That's what we're going to do.
We're gonna shame people because they can't fly as fast as other people, huh?
That's nuts.
Okay, fine.
Pika spent all of his guild gold and fewer gold to do it.
sense hello there good sir I'm here to deliver some gold wanted to hand it off
to the best wow streamer Zaryu the goat there we go but for some reason he's
playing on a lame realm anyways please give this to Zaryu when he realm
transfers ps all my love ps get killed by soda poppin 24 no that's our gold man
Are you kidding me?
That's our gold
400 gold
From on fun
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo, yo, yo
I I potentially might make a night slayer character keep that gold around peekaboo guys make sure peeka does not spend that gold I
Might be making a night slayer character. Make sure he keeps that for us. All right. It's important
Alright, so these mobs are humanoids and we can sap them in tests right now
Okay, so
I'm trying to think how to do this I would like probably bring this one close to this one
for uh trying to bring this one okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna avenger shield let's see if
the sap breaks i'm sure it will it didn't bounce to the sap
i'll test it again but it didn't bounce you told you yeah i mean bro half the chat was completely
wrong on this one we can test again in 13 seconds
Um, whoever tagged me say sorry.
This happens a lot.
Like this happens a surprising amount where people are just confidently wrong.
Like confidently wrong, bro.
Does that make Avenger Shield a little better if it's not breaking CC?
Like you could sheep one and then just pull with Avenger Shield.
I feel like it makes it a little better.
Alright, let's try it again.
Like this even.
I'm gonna bring it a little closer like right on top of it right there a
vendor shield it doesn't break hundred percent myth busted right
hundred percent myth busted it's not a smart balance guys it breaks traps and
Polly's doesn't see a sap mob as a hostile mob.
Wait, is there a mage around that can test polymorph?
I would assume it wouldn't break Polly either.
It's just a mage around the grand.
I would love to test it with polymorph.
I don't think it's going to break Polly if it doesn't break sap.
Oh, apparently on Wowhead, there was an article, according to the new patch notes for the
PTR, this ability will no longer break CC, SAP, Sheet, etc.
Quite helpful if your healer does not want you to go into a massive AOE spree.
Try it with blind.
Can try blind too.
Let's blind this scavenger here.
Here let me break this sap and then just blind like something.
Yeah here we go.
So that mob's blinded.
It doesn't break the blind.
It doesn't break the sap.
It's just not bouncing.
If it's mob CC it's not bouncing to it.
Oh they changed it weird.
I mean guys that's 100% proof.
I aggro'd both of them myself.
And someone found the blue post on Wowhead, so, yeah, 100%.
Sick.
All right.
Anyway, I still think I'm gonna try
the non-eventure shield build for first,
and I think I'm gonna run it until it pisses me off
and just see how it goes,
because that extra 10% damage might be kinda nice.
Thanks for testing, Kitsi.
This guy's a 280% flyer. He's already gone. He's already halfway across the map, dude
All right guys, let's start the day with some shattered hulls
Because a lot of the gear I need is from shattered or I guess there's a there's a trinket in there
That's really good. Oh, it's only a 5% drop chance
But there's gloves in there that are good and another pair of gloves. Let's just do a quickie shattered hulls. I think
Hey, sorry, Gildy, Resto, Shaman, Archimea, you played Prop Pally last time you played.
Pretty sure.
Look at that.
Rolls reverse.
All come help, DPSLock70, Amelia.
Tad of a newborn mythic raider, handsome with a mustache, Pumper, Hunter, and Gildy.
Wow.
Coldache.
You just got out out whispered cold egg. I was gonna invite you, but this hunter is a mythic raider dad and a mustache wielder
Okay, this is good. Let's get over there
Crusader aura good comes
Did you get your best live room yet, it's from the daily so not yet or from that like what's it called?
batch of justice is like 12 of them or something
Is there a link to that 60 upgrades? Here you go.
Actually, you know what?
I'm going to link this Librema Protection Complete Guide to TBC Prop Pallet from Subtle.
Subtle's Prop Pallet and Guide.
Cool, I just pinned it now.
I
Melea
Dude, how did how is everyone farming 5,000 gold for 280% flight speed mounts day one of the
Not day one, but like like first week of the expansion
What the heck that is a lot of farming
That is like that is a ton of farming then
Okay, I'm just gonna move it.
I
Mealy I said I I boosted my character I 200 gold going in a TBC. I and I sold everything with mining
You made 5,000 gold 60 to 70
Bro, I made like 800
That's crazy, I don't know what I did wrong I made like
Maybe I maybe I made like a thousand plus. I have a bank full of enchanting mats a thousand plus a bank full of enchanting mats
Whatever that comes out to
Or is expensive it's an or
Oh, these guys all flew to honor hold instead of flying with their 60% speed mounts.
smart. Very smart. I should have done that myself. Instead, I flew daily 70 for 50. 19.
Good morning, distruder. Good morning. Can I post this earlier from Wowhead? Sure. I
I permitted you to link. Thanks, man.
As of 4-0-3, and possibly a little before, Avenger Shield no longer hits CC targets.
This means you can safely fire into a group of mobs where a rogue is stabbed to mages,
polymorph, etc., without fear of hitting them. Essentially, it's become a smart pull.
I'm only hit non-CC targets. Edit for clarity. Of course, don't actually fire it at a CC target
because it would break it, but I mean it's no longer bounce attarius.
403 is cataclysm. Yeah, true.
But this work, I mean we just acid it, it works.
Okay guys, this is gonna be our first shattered halls.
Shattered holes, huh? Lock requires shattered holes key.
What?
Any you need a key for this guys?
Here we have someone else open it. Okay, there we go. We're in we're in all right guys. We are gonna test the sanctity orb build
See how feels
Oh
Apparently I'm also supposed to use kings in dungeons on on myself
instead of sanctuary which I didn't know but now I do. The classic way to get in
is to flying mount and drop to your death and then rise inside that's hilarious.
If I speck in the sink then, because you need it for Holy Shield no matter what.
Line up and crush these fools, I'm not. Who's the fool? We're locked in a dial here man.
Oz has to gear check him.
Oz, you sweaty nerd.
Bro
Nice
Guys we might need to get Aldor exalted or something. I don't know
Alright, let's see how this feels.
I have to just run in a baseball like this, I guess.
I mean, threat felt fine here, even with no snap threat.
This is a normal dungeon, keep that in mind.
Yeah, threat did not feel as fine here.
I'll say that much.
guys I need a second on threat this feels much harder so you just gotta run in
and do this
now this is not heroic this is normal we're gearing for heroics why weapon
oil you have a shaman dropping win fury I think weapon oil is better than win
fury I think I read that somewhere in the guide please someone please correct me
if I'm wrong
dude who pulled dude who pulled this whole room you know fight it out guys
Let's hide it out, hide it out.
Definitely, definitely want to hide this one out.
Who pulled this entire room, man?
Dude, dude, who's getting feared into all these mobs?
What is this, Curse?
OK, this was fine.
My group is a bunch of shads. Holy moly
Thunder fury jumped and pulled it. Oh really? I don't even see that
I don't know how are we feeling about saying to the aura man, this isn't even a heroic by the way
How are we feeling I'm feeling like it just feels weird to not have the Avenger shield
but maybe I just need to give it some more time.
Considering your TPS are pumpers, it feels fine.
Man, I take damage, bro.
Like I take damage, dude.
Like I'm taking it.
Okay, so like right there on pole
That doesn't that doesn't look like super nice, right doesn't feel nice doesn't look nice doesn't operate nice
Does anyone know why Pally Power doesn't work in combat?
Like when I use my Pally Power key bind, it only works out of combat.
I don't know if I'm doing something wrong here.
There's an option.
I don't see it.
I've looked for it like multiple times.
I don't see like an in combat out of combat option.
So like this without a venture shield,
it's just kind of annoying.
Just run in there and do this, I guess.
Dude, my lock is pumping and a warrior.
They're doing 2K DPS a pop.
Dude, this group is good enough to go to Heroics.
Don't have the rep for it, but...
Someone said,
in the options midway on the first page,
Salvin combat, if you enable this option,
you'll be able to buff Warriors, Druids, and Paladins
with greater busting and self-miling combat.
This setting only applies to raid groups.
A lot of teams use trips at the end of the game, so...
This is just warrior shrewd... That's different. This is different.
I mean, like, just normal, like any other buff.
Valor, thanks for the T1. Oh, crap.
There's a hole there.
Guys, follow me this way.
Whether you're instantly dead in heroics. Yeah, so we're not doing them yet. We're getting gear first
We need 490 ish or 485 defense ish for heroics
We are at four what 30
433, so we need a lot of gear.
If you read my combat, you can do it in combat.
If you double click, you can do it in combat.
I'm trying to use the key button, though, I don't like clicking.
Definitely yeah, there's a lot of like crafted gear we can get to it looks like
No, Sun Eater won't replace Thunderfury, I don't think it's all about spell damage
weapons for Pali.
I'm gonna get a there's like a bunch of different spell power weapons I can get
Okay, I need a drink
But we're in combat. Oh, here you go
It's warriors a Chad. Yeah, it's Oswald
Massive Chad
It's in the pin message check it out grilled
That's our more exalted sort of solid. Oh, yeah, it's really good if we can get all the way to exalted
Does this place give us a rap yet does I?
Don't remember this boss
Does this pull the boss now it doesn't
It's been a while since we've been in here
He's clapping and watching that's pretty cool. I like that
Oh, it's my first time popping wings. Oh, we get deathcoiled on it
Okay, nice
Honestly threats feeling fine as well that would gears me a ton and we can still keep threat like these
Was that the boss I needed? I don't think so, right?
No, that thing does drop the great helm of unbreakable though.
We need the last boss for the shrink it, but it's a low drop chance.
It also drops gloves.
Paladin and tanking looks fun, still hope so far.
This guy had it, dude.
Bro.
Yeah, that's what we're going for right there.
Yeah, there's like five different weapons I can go for that are all like pretty fun.
As long as it has like 120 to 150 spell power-ish.
Oh crap, what is this?
It's like a gonglet, right?
I remember when we AoE grinded this, we would try to get as far to pull this entire thing
at once.
These are just normal mobs, yeah, we're probably fine.
Each mob is giving like two wrap or something.
Frostmage shovel lock with decimates, oh yeah, we used to do it in one pull while leveling.
crazy
You miss a vendor shield
I
It's I don't know. I don't know. I think I need to give it some time
Not having it feels like I feel a bit naked without a vendor shield. Yeah, it feels like a bit like kind of a bit weird
but
Think we definitely give him some time
Uh, did we kill that pack?
Man, I need the rep anyway, I guess we should.
I want to see you tank out of warrior.
Maybe one day, man.
I think we're a little too far in for this.
Troubled it's like free rep over here since they're all half HP.
Yeah, Amelia's giga-chatting with those seeds. Yeah, we have massive pumpers in this.
I think warrior would actually be really fun to play in classic vanilla where you tank
in with fury, like no shield tanking with fury, that sounds sick to me.
I've never been able to do that before.
I play classic. Wow. It's got to be a fury prod tank angle
Drive on 70 Dean. Thanks, bro
How are you supposed to raid midnight if you're so deep in TBC prop alley?
Welcome to my world, bro
I'm I'm I'm still upset at Blizzard the first stack in these welcome to my world
I've been upset for ever since they announced this like two or three months ago. I was like, bro, what?
How did that fall?
Once I bring in a whole nother pack from that fear, that's gonna be brutal, there we go.
I might get another pack from the reef here.
Looks like we're fine.
Really, not heroic.
That's such a fast wipe.
It's like...
Oh my gosh, I actually died.
Wow.
I didn't even think I was gonna die there at all.
She's Louise.
I kind of felt fine for a minute.
TBC is a much better game than retail. No one's playing retail. Guys, we need to take
some deep breaths. Okay, we need to take some deep breaths. I'm gonna take some deep
breaths.
Nice work, team.
Hodes are with the deep breath.
Thank you very much.
I'm gonna slash a reload here for a minute
Let's read pops up
Cool
Nice.
Let's do it.
Yo, the dodge linked in the pin message.
Check the pin message.
Is King's better, even a Sanctity aura?
I think so.
These aren't heroics, maybe sanctuaries better, but I'm just gonna use the plan of kings because
That's the extra stats. It's gonna be nice
Sorry, I know you love your aq gear, but it's a nightmare to heal past mana tomes or so guys
I've been hearing this same thing about the thunder fury and the other gear. I
I have nothing to replace it with or else I would
I didn't think that needed to be said. I really didn't think that needed to be said at all
Like Hazard put on better gear guys. I don't have better gear. This is what I've got right now
We're doing dungeons to get better gear
I really didn't think we had to say that part
the goodness
Just get better gear. I know I'm just like I guess so
I guess so, man.
Okay, so this guy drops two-handed mace.
Oz says I can get fell steel after this, and he can craft it for me from the auction house.
Okay
Fall Steel's cheap. Yeah, that that could be beneficial
That could be very beneficial
Wasted wings, did I?
You can't actually taunt there.
that's a nice booties
to
that's the
case are checking back in the get better gear yet
almost yeah we're working on it
one of the nice things I'm realizing about not playing with a vendor shield is my mana
feels a little better I mean it's my mana still not doing great but a vendor shield
like takes a lot of mana. Oh this guy just outplayed me. Goes in for the stab.
You have the coolest looking one-hander in the game. What's the coolest looking shield?
Coolest looking shield might be face of death man. I'm actually kind of sad like we're going to
replace full of ventures face to death and thunder fury like really soon here
probably later today
oh pull work of asinoth yeah bull works pretty sick
Dude these shadow shatter hand assassins are so funny
They're open with like cheap shot and like
They were like cheap shot and like uh like sap that's so sick
Um, yeah, so like mobs like this like threat is actually kind kind of tough with avenger shield like that that pull wouldn't have been
Too much of a threat issue at all
The difference is i'm like a fresh 70 ding and oswald is like probably close to a previous warrior
with drake fist hammer and vindicator's brand so like
it's like yeah, it's red stuff
I love having wings to pop, I love it dude
Just let him die a few times bro. No
I could use my words instead
Or I can get better aggro for that is such the
What's it called? That is like such like the tank ego. Oh, he's ripping threat. Just let him die then
Oh my gosh, all right lightsworn hammer we didn't get the trinket
Dang it, dude, just we go again. I mean we need the rep anyway, so it's fine
So lightsworn hammer is 1.8 speed it has stamina into 40 dps and it has 76 damage I
Don't think personally 76 damage is worth it over Thunderfury
I think you've got to be in like 120 damage range for it to be better. We're also losing DPS on this
All right
Guess we just go again kind of want that shrink it we need there up anyway. It's NBD
Just run out run in
Thunderfury still beats that yeah, I think it's oh auction house
I'm
Gonna go auction house to get some better gear
Sec gonna get a hearth since mine CD
I'm going to go get some fell steel gear.
Yo, PXHale, thanks for the T1.
That healer didn't need the mace.
I say use Thunderfury all of TBC.
I don't know exactly, but like Wraithblade and Thunderfury are very comparable weapons.
Wraithblade has like 90 spellpower, which to me means once a weapon has like what, 110,
120 spellpower, I think that's going to be better than Thunderfury.
But until that mark, anything less than like 90 or 100, I don't think it's worth.
Once it's like 120, 150, 200, it's like way better.
So it's like around there, I think
Yeah, like keepers of timer of your sword, I think it's what like one 150 keepers of time of your swords better
that flight speed why slow while I saw you're flying so fast is I'm just going to get constantly
shamed on this 60%er man, like that's crazy.
Okay, locked in.
Key preserve time revered.
Yeah, so this thing is about 120, like I would use this over Thunderfury.
Key preserve time revered, 120 spell damage, solid.
Very solid option.
I think the Honor Hold one even a little better.
Blade of Wizardry.
I mean, that thing would probably be a little better too.
This thing, definitely a little better.
Great Sword of Horde Dreams, solid.
Oh, the Felsteel stuff isn't that expensive.
Oh, wait, hold up.
I don't even look at the auction house.
This stuff's not bad.
no legs on the auction house though crap no legs on a h this is the honor hold
exalted one yeah yeah if we actually get honor hold exalted that's fire
I think it's really admirable that you could probably accept 5k gold from your viewers yet
you choose to stick with the 60% error.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
that's what it is
Dude, Pao's a legend.
You can buy this on the auction house for not a crazy price.
Ooh!
Guys, is there any other things from the auction house I should buy while I'm here?
I haven't even looked at it.
500G.
Oof, I don't know if I'm buying that.
Is there anything else I should look for?
It's like not crazy.
I got a bunch of fell steel stuff.
I need fell steel leggings, but they're not on the auction house.
Titans flask.
I don't know if I need Titans.
I do want
And where is this
Think towards the end it told me what to buy
Look up BOE legs. I actually have some decent legs in my bank. I'll look in a sec
These are these are the things I should buy superior wizard oil. Let's see. Let's see about those. Oh
These are cheap nice
The shield is 15 gold I think mine's way better because I just need to not die
I need to just get tankier.
My threat right now is like kind of okay.
Solid star of a loon.
of the
one to three for five
You can keep that for tip so we have helm gloves we need can anyone make fell steel legs
it's not a big deal. Okay here we go. Okay hold up. Since we're breaking a
venture set and losing the damage, which is... I mean it just is worth right?
Because we're getting so much more defense. We lose the enchants, we're
actually only getting 20-something defense, but still worth. We're getting armor,
gaining stamina. Yeah, one sec. Before I accept this summon. Yeah, these gloves are probably
better too. Okay, I think there was one item in my bank. Actually, do I have him on me?
I have him on me.
Okay, since we're breaking the set already, we can put this on instead of Aventure's chest
I think.
We actually lose 100 health from no inching and we lose 100 armor, but we're gonna gain
spell damage and defense.
Would you guys use the green over Aventure's?
It's 21 defense, I probably do, right?
I lose I lose like I lose a lot of armor
The shoulders are another question I lose the 18 spell damage enchant
Mmm, I like a lot of these are hard choices just because I'm not replacing them with enchants and on this I lose the seven
defense enchant I
Think I actually might use these 31 defense
42 stamina. You think I'm actually going to use these? I think I'm going to use those
blue legs.
I don't know about these shoulders.
And this chest.
These are tough choices.
Just by cheap blues from the auction house.
I mean, I was just asking you guys if there was any like, I mean, I guess
I could just do a quick scan, quick look through like cheap blues
that would help out.
It doesn't look like there's any cheap blue shoulders.
Doesn't look like there's any cheap blue chests because I would like new boots to here.
Let's see if there's any cheap blue boots.
Doesn't look like it.
Okay.
Oh, there's like level 66 blues.
Oh, Mystic Spell Thread.
That's probably worth it.
Hundred gold.
I actually don't know if that's worth it.
I don't know if that's worth it.
Is that rarity to rare?
Oh, wow.
gold for these 34 damage I loot there's zero stamina on it though zero stamina
I don't know I don't know about zero stamina that is there's no good let's look at chest
Okay, I don't know. I don't think it was any good.
I think I just stick with this, honestly.
I think this is the move.
That was Silver. It's a spell thread. Let's do that one.
Alright, I'm ready for some. I'm sorry about that, team.
and
I'm honored with San are in
I don't even know how much this is going to be worth it, but I should be like a little
tank here my defense went from 430 to 455 wrong leg and shant yeah it's just a
lot cheaper to do this one
okay um let's reset let's get out
Outside for reset it I think.
Rion, thanks for the prom.
Are you doing heroics?
Nah, we're gearing up for heroics right now.
Oh, it is already reset?
Okay, sick.
But...
We replaced some gear.
Those are from the PvP vendor.
Oh, yeah, those might be better.
probably are better than mine.
Hide-Helm-Biss-Mog, true, very true.
Yeah my threat is gonna be so much worse now.
I'm like a little tankier but I lost all my threat for that.
That's gonna be a lot worse.
Just lost 150 spell power.
I'm coming back from something as well.
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to farm either honor hold to exalted or keepers of time to refiered ASAP
Or lower city to the lower city weapons off that either right
Or get like the slab sword. There's like five options that are fine. Yo J-Rai, thanks for the problem
We're here takes like two hours of caverns of time. Yeah. Yeah, I might just send that
And pull this back this time
Yeah, threat is miserable now.
I don't know, guys.
That is absolutely miserable.
I honestly think for now, since it was so minor, I just put this stuff back on.
I'll keep the gloves, because these just seem better.
Actually, it's only a couple of defense.
It's literally...
Yeah, I think I'm seeing with these
I'm dropping like
I'm getting like 15 defense from was a hundred fifty spell power. I don't know
I think I think this is probably better for normals for heroics. There's no choice. I need it
I need to get tankier so for her own to have to use the other stuff
Yeah, this is so much more so much better so much better threat
You're also losing agility. Yeah, I'm losing I'm losing everything. I
Do I will need to put that fell steel stuff on though once I get to heroics
It's it's not even an option like right like I just need it
I
Made 10 collie what I'm escargo
He's just using thunder fury for engagement bait probably guys
We have nothing to replace it with yet, but we will soon
We will very soon, but we don't have anything better yet. We're working on it. We will replace it today. I think which is crazy
easy, but we don't have anything yet. We have to get on or hold exalted, revered caverns
of time, we need something. I thought you could use Thunderfury Tulkera. I mean you can, but
I think there's better options. If you're a warrior, you can use it to Black Temple,
which is nuts.
Hey, sorry, just checking back in. It's been 30 minutes. Are you fully Phase 1 bis yet?
We're definitely getting closer than we were 30 minutes ago.
Definitely getting there.
definitely some fun polls here
to
this right or provide less threat and saying
On a lot of pulls does about like two to three percent of DPS on more of like an AOE pull on a single target pull
I think it does under 1%
On the other hand that sancti or gives 10% holy damage
Which I think it quakes to about 8% damage or a bit more at least on this last pull since most of my stuff's holy
So so yeah, it farms
Oh yeah, gotta go this way, I forgot.
Sanctuary for Paladin some must have.
Kings is actually better, believe it or not.
Honestly, for normal dungeons, I could probably go Sanctuary, but for heroics and raids and
stuff, you want Kings, Cryo over Sanctuary.
enough.
We got the confidently wrong Andes.
Nice.
Nice
We went well for them last time. Yeah, exactly fast
What one of the things that I
I went out and did is I added a subtle if you guys know subtle he's like a prop
Pali giga-chat extraordinaire he's kind of like a prop Pali encyclopedia for TBC and
I asked him a bunch of questions last night like Kings versus Sanctuary seal of righteous versus
seal of vengeance exactly how much defense for different types of content what kind of builds
Avenger shield versus Sanctity aura. We got all the answers. So I'm feeling really good with like the person who's actually done it
Right and not just done it but have done that high level
So we're feeling really good at that all that info so shout out to subtle for that
Oh wings is so much gopemine every time are you kidding me look at that
Subtle skies awesome. Yeah, it's great
Take that, ooh 30 defense helmet 48 stamina it fell steal how I think is better triple
socket is more stamina has more stamina has more armor as well yeah fell steal is just
better in every way I think I guess strength don't think we need it
the
the aesthetics yeah true thing looks kind of fire it's like the
it's like a wrap set for more years
you don't need blacksmithing to wear fell steel you just need it for the
set bonus
Share the info, check out the pinned message if you're over on Twitch.
If you're on YouTube, maybe someone could link the uh, the Prop Halle guide from Subtle. It's really good.
Very, very good.
But yeah, we've been sharing the Subtle information all morning long, dude. It's it's been very helpful.
Dude, I was thinking about heroics in TBC versus mythics in retail.
a lot recently because I was thinking why is it that heroics feel so hard but mythics
on retail they are hard but you can still do like bigger polls even a high-end mythics
and it's like you do a double pull in a heroic and you usually are gonna die it's like what's
different and I was thinking about it what's different is the abilities that retail players
have access to. Monks AoE leg sweep, shock wave, AoE stuns, AoE knockups, AoE AoE, like AoE
knockup from a mage, AoE stun from a monk, are you kidding me? That's the big difference.
It's the abilities. It's not that they don't get hit hard, it's that they can negate all
the damage. Right? That's gotta be a lot of it.
play your power?
yeah
you're a lot more limited
Yeah, that's another really good way to say it, like you do not have like AoE stuns in TBC.
Yeah, like if we add AoE stuns in TBC, you probably could do like a double pull in a heroic or maybe even a triple pull,
but since you don't have the AoE stun, like, good luck, right?
Shadow Fury, yeah, but you need like multiple and like, rotate them, right?
I mean, Thyrata is feeling pretty good again with this spell power back on.
We have 317 spell power feels pretty deuce
Heroics are equal to like a plus six key and retail the difference is on a plus six and retail like you can pull like three or four packs
at once and blasts in AoE. That's what I was, that's where like we started the conversation at,
right? Why is it different? Why does it feel different? And I think the biggest reason is the,
is the fact that, oh crap, these double aggro'd again. Okay, this is gonna get dicey, guys.
Like right here, you could like AoE stun, AoE knock up, right?
and I popped Oz
Hide it out. Very good heels.
Hide this out a bit more
Nice, handled. They handled double pull there, but this isn't even a hurrah. I guess this is a normal
Pali, thank yous is reckoning, uh yeah a couple points, depending on your build, but yeah.
It's awesome, awesome different people, yes.
I keep standing up to something.
Am I gonna play midnight?
I do plan to check it out, yeah.
We'll see how it goes.
Wow, that centurion mortal strike I think is what it is.
Just owns me.
Savitri.
Cool.
Cool, I'm an enchanter, definitely need that.
We got Savitri guys, nice.
Finch changing the enoxy Q4 to Q already, a little bit, couple pieces man, it's crazy.
I'm surprised you stopped doing High Minic Plus. I remember you were grinding that in
War Within. Did you just get bored or prefer Classic? I think for me, I get to a point
where it just gets too sweaty. Minic Plus is fun. I like it a lot. But it gets to a point
where it's like, just too sweaty. It's like, all right, yeah. To go a little, to go any
higher than this you have to just like you got a sweat you know it's like it
just gets very try hard very sweaty just like anything once you get to you know
close to the top and something it's like you it just gets very sweaty so I just
stopped doing keys for that reason I like it I like them a lot and I plan to do
more in midnight too but just get sweaty
You have a macro for your taunt?
Yes, it's in my discord.
Hey, Zahra with a mordika.
Rank 1 players as it's too sweaty.
Well, that's one of the big reasons I stopped PvPing is like at a high level is that it's
just it's very sweaty, right?
I think I'm just older now and joy like more casual stuff
It's definitely very very sweaty to continue
Okay, no bop here bops on cooldown
So he's immune to taunt, I don't know if Bob, I'm not really sure if there's any counterplay
to that besides just kiting it.
Probably just kiting it.
Have I done a full and average level yet?
I have not.
Let me do that right now.
I'm actually kind of curious.
And if that wasn't a dagger, I would totally use that
Slash pull what level are you?
60 to 62
63 to 60
We only have five options. So we'll be 63 to 65 66 to 68 and then 69 and we'll do 70
cool
Everyone fill in the bowl there we go
The thing is, the average person watching a Twitch stream is probably higher level than the average person just playing the game.
When you guys say that's true, like if you're interested enough in WoW to be gaming while watching a Twitch stream, you probably play a little bit more than the average player.
It's probably kinda true, right?
Maybe not super significantly true, but maybe a little bit.
I'm not sure what the
guys sat me will play
so the poll is 30% of people are 70% 19% are 60 to 62
OK so 70% of people aren't level 70 yet
like that's kinda interesting
Bruh, these saps are brutal.
Okay, so after playing without a vendor shield for like two dungeons now
I I have to say
We can flare this I like that it doesn't eat my mana as much
I don't feel like I'm boom as much and that's pretty nice
I have to say that having no a vendor shield on pull for snap threat is kind of annoying
I don't know I'm still I still I still don't really know I could also play it the other build
kind of compare to something might be a good idea we're at the end already again holy crap
All right guys, we really need the figuring of the Colossus here
Greaves of the Shatterer also probably wouldn't be bad, but this figuring of the Colossus
Definitely need oh actually forgot with the gauntlets of righteousness. These gauntlets would be amazing legs would be amazing
Trinket would be the best we just don't want
These things again
See ya
I wonder if stacking here is good for when the ad's come.
Not even sure.
Keeps you up!
We pumped it.
Two pieces of gear, wow, two drops.
I will take those legs.
Definitely better than mine.
There we go.
Okay, we just go again.
We need to rep anyway.
Mario, thanks for the T1.
Amelia, no!
That was a clutch charge from Uncle Oswald.
Saved Amelia.
to
put on a rep progression bar
on her hold the real
of the
the problem with honor hold of yours actually don't need any of the year from it I need the exalted one like am I really gonna grind exalted
I'm going to go back to the
lower city referred like the
best thing that I can get for
revered. I think is keepers of
time. Keepers of time of
revered weapon owns and the
legs are solid.
One guy thinks the prime.
Max Bench. My best ever is 290,
which was a double bodyweight at
the time when I got it, which I
mentioned in many years. I don't even know right now. Buy Thunderfury. Soon, yeah. I
I think we replaced Thunderfury today, man.
Silent, thanks for the prom.
Dirty, thanks for the prom.
get the quest for here from honor hold turning the tide pride of the fell horde
Is there three quests here?
I think there's three quests there. I don't even have them.
I might go grab those and have my group summon me back.
I'm
I'm guys are warlock had the drop if anyone else wants a shattered hulls or two or three
or four or five semi whisper your alley cat thanks for the two one
we need one more DPS level 70
Let me know how Oswald said he's asking someone to fill up in a minute.
Yo, Coco, what's good?
Right now I'm using 433 defense, 12% block chance with 3.3% crit reduction.
So I'm definitely a little more on the squishy end.
a lot. I don't think these shoulders are worth it. I don't think these gloves are worth it.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Fair one.
Need help.
Or the alliance.
We have a hunter
See
Okay, Oz here lead he has he has someone who's coming
18 defense necklace, I don't think that's worth it either. Well, maybe that's worth it
That'd be pretty close
Let's grab the quest one way or another for the rep and then this one too
I think it was just judgment of the crusader.
Neck loses nine hit, yet also he's dodged with that neck.
These hands might be worth it. Shield block and block value, but I lose defense.
Let's do it, let's do it.
without thunder fury on how are people gonna know who the main tank is that's
why I had to name myself this man because if not I think people are gonna
get confused
ethical Zahar love to see it by constraint upon ethical yeah very very ethical
gaming over here as it that's exactly what this is about um a hundred percent
Definitely. Yep, that's me.
I'm gonna go to the restroom one sec.
of
We're grinding up rep right now.
Any upgrades or previous items?
Nothing yet today.
But we just got on.
I'm only done. This is our third dungeon today.
The force rogue hate is brutal. Yeah.
Rhoads and heroics are probably pretty decent, just because they have good CC, good control, stuns, kicks, saps, blinds, gouge.
Man, I'm so boomed.
I'm gonna try the Avenger Shield build just for some pulls and just see the
difference in how it feels. Gonna try Avengers for this run. I think it's
pretty minimal, but let's just see how it feels.
the
Okay, that works out you have killer storm. Thanks for the problem. You're gonna try rat and
raids now. If I do, if I, if I don't want to play my Paladin anymore, I would reroll to
a mage or a rogue or a warrior, but I'm liking Paladin so far enough to want to like play it.
How are the dungeon runs going? They're going smooth. Well, very smooth.
,
can't straight up and with a fender shield
is a little bit little bit rougher on the old manna
of
my tank or DPS I'm a tank I'm the main tank
who's loading now we're doing normals until we get the rep for heroics and the gear
You can't pull like that on Heroic, yeah on Heroic you just gotta be CC-Bulls or else
we just end to die.
Which is really cool, I think that's really awesome.
Have you ever rolled a healer?
Yes, I played Priest on Retail and on Plastic for a bit.
I like priests, but I don't like healing as much as is not healing, I will say that.
Why no thorns up?
Yeah, Mr.Truin, what's going on with the thorns?
We're at the 70 game, thank you, man.
Yeah, we finally got level 70, so we can game up.
Justing 70 grassmen.
What made you go back to vendor shield build? I'm testing it. I'm just testing...
This is my first time with adventures. I did
two runs without it. I'm testing one run with adventures just to see how things feel.
that's class for solo players
and I think the end of the day I say I always say play what you like playing
if you don't enjoy what you're playing what's the point you're playing a video game
right so when like play what you you think sounds fun see you can have a good
time like that that's what it comes down to
having said that if you're a solo player you will have an easier time finding
groups as a tank as a healer or as maybe like a like a hunter or a shaman kind of
better time finding groups like those classes but don't do it it's a
That doesn't sound fun.
BlizzCon prediction, Ratana vs. Rear Classic Plus or both?
I think we're going to get both, which I've said before, like it kind of scares me a little
bit because they might overlap each other, which I think would be a terrible thing.
and
I haven't seen that one yet.
They've shown us many times now that they don't care to overlap.
I actually disagree.
They've shown us that they don't care to overlap retail with classic, but they haven't
showing us that they care to overlap classic with classic I think have we ever had classic overlap
with classic like I guess season of discovery with like cat a patches or something but like a lot
of the times they do okay with that so we'll see if they do if they do wrap as classic plus comes out
I feel like that's gonna be awkward.
Trinket prediction, please.
Slash prediction.
Trinket, yes, no.
Good luck, man.
Good luck.
How much water do I trinket?
He probably got a little under a gallon.
Yeah, I'm gonna check out midnight.
Yeah, Seaburks, I need some love, glad you enjoyed the contents, somehow some way, man.
Have you seen the rogue hate on Reddit?
I am not.
What's going on on Reddit on the rogue hate, dude?
of
I think I'm actually going to pull these back.
I did a short prediction, it's already gone.
No Tabard for Rep.
Wait, can you get a Tabard that gets you more Rep?
Isn't that in Rep?
That's in Rep, okay.
I don't know.
I think I might go back to the not avengers shield build for a couple pulls.
Boss is going in.
You got this, bro.
Finally, team 70.
Yes, sir.
Man, we got it.
Drink it in I know that's kind of why I wanted to swap back see if I can keep my mana high
with a vendor shield on perma oomed out dude
what's the warrior's gear i think he's almost pre-biss warrior is uh very cracked
Okay, we should pull these back because we keep getting like a double pull here somehow. I don't even know how it happens
Cool, at least we didn't get a double pull this time
I should probably just run in behind line like this. Yeah, this is probably the move here
Yeah, Tom, thanks for that prime dude.
Thunderfury is getting replaced probably today, if not tomorrow, depending on how much rep
if we can farm or how much luck we can get with drops.
Do I consider Diet Coke water? I do not.
Hope all is well, back at you, chef.
You're gonna go back to classic hardcore again if so when TBC hardcore community event slash
only things three happening later this year if you have not heard yet that's gonna be
playing more hardcore.
Great sort of forward dreams.
Yeah, we'll probably go kill murmur.
Use a little, do a little slabs coming up here soon.
No Petri Hollow?
I think I'm preferring the no
I think I'm preferring the no avenger shield build which is weird because I didn't think I would like it
I think what I'm liking is I I can keep my mana higher and be a little more precise with the poles
What I don't like is that I have no range to pull. I have to body pull, but like it's kind of working
Sankora rules, I mean, it's definitely not bad.
Once they get engineering, we'll have the palms anyway, the range bolds, very true.
Cool maze. 10 gold right there.
of
Technically worst year is less mana issues. Yeah, yeah, because I get hit harder which means I get healed more
Add-ons are all of my discord man. I was never a
Fan of like watching sports. I guess the most sports I've watched is like college basketball
When I was young like with my dad, but even then I didn't watch like a ton
Crap, Oz, you're dead.
Oh, Arkham Meya with the NSEal.
Arkham Meya, you are a gamer, bro.
Tactically not casting Holy Shield to get mana back is a move. Yeah, I've already I've already been on that tech. I
Want to get hit hard here?
Just take the shield off be a man
I've heard that once the heroics get really sweaty
Prop Halley's will tank and like cloth gear
Like a cloth chest or like some cloth legs so they get hit harder and do more damage
So get more mana backs they can run quicker. I have heard that like once it gets sweaty
That's what you can kind of do which is funny
Okay
Well guys this is run number three we've seen the hammer twice and the legs once we want
something gloves or the shrinkage.
There's three assassins this spawn, huh?
There's always three.
I'm gonna get any assassins on the last one.
Oh, maybe you're not supposed to pull those.
Defense legs again, cloth, gloves, and a primal nether.
Dang, dude.
No trinket.
Uncle Oswald rolled his knee down the nether.
Whoa!
Woa Oswald needs the nether?
What?
What is going on with the nether need?
Crafter should need, I'm a crafter.
Technically, I'm an engineer and an enchanter.
I can craft, I think.
Is that a crafter?
and
you should need them okay I guess that's on me then
craft
time. The bad news is we still don't have the figurine of the clauses, so we're getting
there.
Thanks, Doge.
Yeah, these are the talents I'm going with.
And it's definitely feeling all right.
and
definitely feel and ease
, yes the discord link is just as much point discord
and in the prediction is paid out as no
Wait a minute. I don't think I did this quest. Grand Warlock Nethercurse performs on Rifled
Magic Feats. Oh. Using the vessel he uses to contain these
fellow members capture one and bring it back to me to gather a fellow member from
the strange braziers oh crap I'll do that next run take the amulet to the
brazier in the first room okay I mean we're gonna do this place right now
again so let's do it next run
Boom, boom, Oswald has to go, okay.
Sherwin has to go as well.
Alright boys, we need two more deeps.
We got a healer, a tank, and a hunter.
We can summon you.
We're going to be doing a couple more shattered hulls for Revered.
Send me a whisper if you guys want to come a little shattered hulls.
You guys want to come a little shattered halls
See how it goes
Need two more. Let me know what level you are how your gear is
You can blast off
the
one or fall, earthward and what are you a tank one default. This is defense expertise
Hype says invite fury warrior high DPS 70 at stone as well to your fury warrior
Okay, we're gonna we're gonna bring the melee cleave back double warrior shaman hunter
Let's go
Bring the melee cleave back man the melee train
Sit it
I don't think that's right there I feel like that's definitely mark the raven guard would
anyone ever use this over market kathun you gain 16 stamina and 3 defense speed was 12
dodge and 10 hit.
Maybe you would
Because dodges in that good and hit isn't that insane 16 stamina is actually kind of a lot
Huh, yeah, well you guys actually use this over mark
Hit and stamina loss is brutal
All right the hit and dodge brother
Hmm, keeping some defense and some stamina.
People saying to use it, huh?
Freebus Prop Pally.
I need spell hit more than regular hit.
Yeah, like if a melee attack misses, it doesn't really matter too much.
Gabby says go for the big stam because you need 12k plus stam.
Or else you just kind of die.
Do I have the live room from Sephic?
I don't yet.
I probably will.
What rep does Sephic Halls give?
I'll probably do that place at least a couple of times today.
lower city rap yeah definitely definitely will do that a couple times today
what for a meter all my items are in discord if you want them set pick doesn't
give a pass friendly I actually am so friendly so maybe hopefully that
but Lybrum Tropsect first try then.
Nah, thanks for the fraud, dude.
Bro, this sword is not bad.
60 DPS stamina, intellect, and spell damage.
What class you level to 70 next?
If I do an ult to be a warrior, rogue, or a mage, for sure.
Those are some of my favorite classes in the game.
But I don't know if I'm going to do an ult or if I'm not.
Oh, our warrior's locked out, guys.
He needs the key.
Let's go get him.
Let's go get him, baby.
Did see, thanks for the problem.
Okay, I'm going to pull these back.
Okay, I'm gonna pull these back
I feel like holy families have never been OP
I mean, I don't like followed PBE that much, but an arena that's kind of adds up
There were some seasons like BFA Holy Pallies were nuts, but like a lot of the times that kind of adds up
How many batches of justice am I at I think zero you don't get them from normals that's heroics, right?
Oh, Holy Pallies and Wrath were correct.
Yeah, I don't know how I...
How that escaped me.
Yeah, Holy Pallies and Wrath were like stupid.
They were probably the most OP thing in the game, an arena at least.
I forgot about Ratholique Valley, I erased it from my memory dude.
is retail on the menu this month towards the end of the month yes but not till then
Dude, I did 1.6k DPS on that pull.
I popped wings, but don't just don't tell anyone about that.
And I hate to say it guys, but I think I'm preferring no Avenger Shield.
I might be that guy.
No Avenger Shield tanking.
Everyone is trying to convince me to do this and I'm like nah bro.
It's just so much better on the mana.
It doesn't change the pull that much, and once the pull is going, I'm doing way more damage to the Sancta Diora.
The only thing that sucks about No Adventurers is this right here.
I have to like, face pull this, but is that even that bad?
It's like, not even that bad.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's like probably a couple of poles per dungeon that I could just pull with bombs if I wanted
Or like dynamite or whatever. I have to level my engineering soon. I'm 300 right now
It's probably super expensive to level in here now
now.
Or has Hunter to pull those?
Yeah.
That's just like kind of annoying to have to do unless you're in discord.
Stop moving type.
Can you pull this?
Hunter's like, yeah, sure.
Minus 15 seconds.
It's like at that point, I'd rather just face pull.
Well, let's see if Sanctuary is good for like AoE pulling.
Honestly in normals I probably could go sanctuary, but I'm just gonna get used to Kings.
Not having it, because that's how her oaks are gonna be.
Just keep running up, keep running up, everyone behind me.
Why no sanctuary!
I don't sound like that!
Okay, let's move up, boys.
Everyone behind me.
Okay, so this is the room with the braziers,
so I'll keep that in mind.
and
there we go
walk in
and for a super lock in
to my guy was dialed so dialy did not want to move out of the
out of the circle did
monster
I'm not gonna need any of the items from there, but hey, we'll take the rep
Almost 70 get it man get it
Campbell on the trinket
Sure, let's get a slush prediction does the trinket drop
I mean even if it drops like we still need the rep
So we're spamming it anyway
My spell power right now is at 316
So we're good in there it'll drop cuz streamer loot I mean it's like our fourth run I'd say
if it drops in four runs it's like pretty solid I should actually superior wizard oil
all over Winfury, I think. 42 spell damage has got to be better. For drop-pally-holding
threat.
Hold rep is right at the bottom. We're like a little half like halfway into revered right now or halfway in the honor
Rather getting close to her beard
I'm using sal on the Warriors not my
This is what my gear is looking like. We're at 46% of void ins, 3.3% melee crit reduction,
and 358 spell damage buffed up.
that
little sketch that for a minute we handle that
I have the extra armor on here.
Very sketchy.
Okay, Locking and Dial.
Yo, Chase, glad you loving the channel, man.
And these mortal strikes hurt dude.
shot plus commanding I'm not sure I think one of the other
extra padding thanks so much for the prom dude
Locked it in tile, tell knight you know what it is.
Okay, did not mean to click that.
Yo, mighty Lucknar, thanks for the prime.
Alright, we're gonna pull these back.
So normally if I had a bomb here, I would just do the bomb pull.
I guess this is the closest line, right here.
Okay, just found that.
Okay, not bad.
I'm manifesting the item that you need drops bro. Thank you, Vel' Knight. Thank you
All right
Okay, should be fine enough it's mainly those mortal strikes that has hit so hard
I
Replaced any six sixty year yet couple pieces. Yeah, but not much. I like a couple blues and a couple of greens on
No, we're not playing hardcore
arms where you're some saying yeah dude these guys are pumping
okay so we did basically this entire dungeon without needing to drink like more
than a handful of times. I'm just using like a lot less spells. I'm just like auto attacking
more, just being AFK more, and it's kind of working. Yeah, we'll get a spell power weapon
I think today, which I'm pretty amped up for. Actually, I'm kind of sad for, really, but
That'll still be cool.
I don't think we can farm Honor Hold Exalted in a day, but keep her some time or a feared
Weapon or if we get it from murmur the murmur weapon might be to move for us
Yeah, I talked to subtle he's the one that gave me this build
With the sanctity aura no offender shield. It's definitely different. It feels pretty nice. I
Think we can flare here somewhere
Okay, there should be an assassin somewhere, but...
and
such a thing to the prime of the dead thank you very much men
Looks like we got a heroic question.
Kiddy stones, hello hello.
Yeah, play to the Archmage is sick. I just don't know if we're gonna get a Honor Holder
resulted in time, we'll see.
is completely insane on a single target like this.
Dude, I've always thought this bow looks so cool.
Look at this thing, man.
Brad.
Soda said no heroics and only things three.
Yeah, I was talking to him about that
like yesterday or the day before.
I think it was actually Ampys idea.
And I love that idea.
Right
Just hit 70 without dying and do the normal dungeon so that dying that enough is all like that's hard enough
That's good enough like that's great. You don't need much more than that once you do heroics
It's like repeat like it's just gonna wipe the entire guild like there's no way
Definitely no heroics
Heroics could be a punishment. Yeah
Yeah, I like that. I like that if someone does something that's like dishonorable
It's like you have to run heroic slave pens or whatever and if you make it out
You're good if you're dead then GG, but then again, they'd have to find people to run with and that kind of punishes
Other people too, but that's funny
So no raids the raids are a little easier. You could do the raids the heroics are the
real tough one I think
Alright guys, we're back on the Trinket Boss in a second here.
and
we need more water here pretty soon
to stay
any news of Vixxon there's someone that's been whispering me named Vixxon I
don't know if it's actually him or a Vixxon fan I'm not too sure it's the
real Vixxon then maybe
Yeah, no totems in the hallway, there we go.
I think those totems might have pulled last time, not 100% sure.
Yeah, I think they might have.
Sound like we're supposed to get assassins.
I
Drink it drink it drink
Rip dude this mace has dropped three times her four times actually all four times maybe three times
That fist weapon looks rad though
All right, we go again.
We need this place probably four more times, five more times for the revered honor hold
anyway.
And then once we get revered honor hold, I think we change it up.
I ran that 20 times before I saw shrink it, bro, that's brutal, dude.
I mean, I could keep spamming it till exalted honor hold and get the weapon, but that would
be 33 probably not a good use of time that would be the entire day actually
that'd be the entire all of today and half a tomorrow or something or like
maybe all today and all of tomorrow to go all the way exalted I mean a lot of
runs I don't know if it's worth it combo thanks to the prom
No trinket again.
Heroic gives more rep anyway.
Oh really?
Okay.
So probably just once we get refiered to our one heroic today.
Archimaius says it's 18 more runs for you till exalted.
Only 18 more?
Okay.
That's actually doable in like a day or two.
Yeah, the keepers of time weapon I think is the one I'll get if nothing else else drops
because I can get keepers of time wrap like in like two hours probably.
Can you only do one heroic a day?
No tabber still raf, yeah
I mean, yeah, I'm gonna have to replace this stuff at some point and she's seen more gear man. She better gear
Alley-oo-woo
of the
idea of a B. let's do it
now I was on 2.5 I have taken a tankier set that I can use but I'm not really dying in these and threat is way easier
I get so much damage with tier 2.5 so as long as threat isn't an issue or as long as dying
isn't an issue I'll keep this for more damage.
get round, thanks to the primer.
of the
You think you'll take the 11 one day? Who knows man? Who knows?
Rogue's bad in PvE, apparently until Borglaze, they're not like great.
I think we got a double pull here.
Is it?
Yeah.
That's kind of the downside of face-pulling, although I might not have got a double pull
there even with a bender shield.
of
the road just play PVP. Yeah. Yeah. They kind of dominate everything else.
and
the heroics to the CC
Like in TBC, even the 70 dungeons are like somewhat of a challenge, right?
Obviously, they're not too bad, but as well gets more modern, normal dungeons become completely
trivialized.
Like completely.
Yo, Lootski, thanks for the prom.
Put my Skull Marker back here.
As a paladin, if you have like full P1 bis doing a heroic, could you run in and do the
I just did or are you just gonna die even with like full this I
Feel like you would just die even in full this right
You would die yeah
It's not cool
and one of the things about prop ally that I'm not liking is it feels like the less I
do the better my classes like if I try to do too much I'm just gonna boom and I'm
just kind of like AFK being useless but if I actually do nothing keep my mana
high we're kind of farming I kind of like you guys probably know this I kind of
like spamming keybinds, you know, I kind of like, I kind of like a class that I'm spamming
like I can hit a lot of buttons very quick and just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
right? Like very interactive and spammy. No ways are really brought warrior. Yeah, Halley's
the wrong class for that. Yeah, I'm starting to realize like Halley definitely, definitely
very slow very slow we're kind of like auto attacking I think I did kind of
punish if I use too many judgments too many a we say I just go um and I'm
useless too I definitely need to not use too many abilities that's a paladin
Okay
Off tank bomb ink true
It's kind of works out though
You're gonna end up healing not over my dead body
Okay
Yo Nick, thanks so much for the prom dude
Honestly, when I got Thunderfurious Pally, I knew this day would come.
Why didn't I roll a warrior?
That's just what happens, man.
Okay.
You're walking in tile here?
Try saying Pali's this.
Something like that.
You got a battle cry.
Don't forget quest, I did a last run.
Cloak of malice.
I think we've seen the boots the dagger we've seen all drops on this guy
We have not seen the legs here yet a couple drops from that guy. We haven't seen
Yeah, I'm trying to know a vendor shield build
Supposed to be a little bit better damage better threats
better on the mana
Yeah, you don't you lose the utility of the vendor shield
I
There we go.
Okay.
Can you solo trill the trill master?
I'm not too sure.
That's a quantum pulse of power, I will say that.
Is she enchanting yet?
TPC hardcore will be playing meh, I think.
Ah, pulling back.
why kings since I only have one like there's only one pally and the group
which is me Kings is better at least in like heroics or raids in a normal
dungeon I probably could just ensure I swear that's the last time I'll answer
that one I promise you guys no more of that one
So we double pulled there.
I don't know how that happened.
This will be a, we gotta lock in big cooldowns guys, big cooldowns.
I'm popping everything here, everything.
Nice heels.
Legionnaires need to die ASAP.
We did get another frost.
Slow trap, beautiful.
Yep, just keep kiting back.
Slow trap owns.
the good heels. Don't know if we can get another Frost Slow Trap yet. Probably we're doubling
back into the Frost Slow Trap, Arkham May. I don't know if you can do that, but we need
this thing to live. Oh, it expired. Oh, that's great. That's, that's, yeah, we're super dead
I don't know if we've crossed slow trap now.
Oh, here's another one, sick.
Beautiful.
Yeah, we're just going to kite in circles around this then.
Healers a legend, by the way.
Okay, well done.
Beautiful refrosal trap, there we go.
Nice work.
Archimea, fist bomb buddy, there we go, that's what we're talking about.
That's one of the healer right there.
Very well done.
Nice heals.
I don't know why that double pulls sometimes.
We've done this place like I think six times now and it's double pulled like three.
I don't know.
I'll have to figure that out.
kiting's are thanks brother
that's definitely that's definitely the kind of tech we're gonna have to pull
out in heroics to not die just kiting circles around a frost trap
Did Mitch hit 70 yet? Dude, I don't think Mitch is sending man.
the burger is RIP dude I'm using oil into the wind period
I'm gonna pull these back again
I guess I can do a rank when Conk is there running, but I think it's the closest like
actual line of sight like right here.
There we go.
The one that works out.
This is Black Temple.
It's a little different, a little different.
YouTube commenters going wild.
Yo, Flippy, thanks for the two men.
Okay, how did this aggro again?
What is aggroing this?
Frost traps, frost traps.
We have practice here.
Big frost traps.
I need frost trap, nice.
Okay, bubble cancel.
I don't know why these are aggroing.
It's happening like three times now.
Legionnaires call for help.
I mean, we weren't even close.
We were about 30 yards away.
What are you supposed to do?
and
and frostrapped as OP
I think, yeah, the Legionnaires must call for help, but we were killing them here, and
they pulled from in here.
I mean, that's got to be what, 60 yards?
We killed the mobs here, and they pulled from here, and that's crazy.
Pull further back? Yeah, sure. Just pull him to the start of the dungeon then. I guess so.
He glitches through the wall. Maybe that's it.
Chess is locked.
I'm sitting at 434 and really for heroics I'm at 485 or even 490 so we need a lot more
defense gear, lot more defense.
I can, if I put on all my defensive stuff in my bags I can get up to like 450, from 434
34 to 450 but I lose like half of my spell power stack so it's pretty brutal
You after the gloves gloves and shrink it are really good from here. Yeah, and I need the rep anyway gloves shrink it and rev so I
Have 494 I'm being slammed in in heroics. Yeah. Yeah
I think at the end of the day, I'm not in Heroics yet, so don't take it from me, but Heroics
are about avoiding the damage.
CC and Kiting, not like if you're getting hit for too long, you're just gonna die.
If you're getting hit from too many mobs for too long, you're just gonna die.
You can see it's not getting you to the first place kind of a deal.
This is cool, man. It's a really rad.
Yeah, heroic healing is really rad.
Ooh, yeah.
I don't know about healing a heroic, that sounds brutal.
Just say you regret not rolling warrior.
I won't say that yet, but I will say I've definitely thought about it more than once.
More than five, more than ten times, more than twenty, more than a hundred times.
Yeah, I won't say that yet.
again nice if you didn't have the thunder fury you would reroll instantly maybe true
maybe true but guys are here we make the best of it all right your time will come and mount
high she'll just wait did people have been telling me that just wait on the Paladin
for like, it's been a minute. I must say, Paladin is feeling way better than it was in
Classic WoW and it's not even close. Like, by a mile.
Ow.
Archamea, you're a bee-sealer, man.
You might have to be my hero, a killer, coming up soon, Archamea hype.
Oh, you want a prediction for the trinket?
Alright, here we go.
Trinket prediction, yes, no.
Good luck, guys.
Are you ready to tank Mount Heisho Trash?
I mean I'm not ready yet, but I will be.
We're definitely working our way up there.
Oh
Block block block
I should go buy some dynamite from the auction house just to pull with
You know I'm saying just to like
Just a chuck at dynamite cuz there's like just a couple packs per dungeon that I want to use a dynamite to pull with
Feel like that's probably what we should do
That prediction should be at the top on twitch there's no predictions on YouTube though
Dynamite coping instead of using shield.
I'm kinda liking the no avengers shield build man.
Not gonna lie, it's been nice.
Tor, you could click off the buff if you want.
If you want, Tor.
Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket, Trinket.
No Trinket.
Fish weapon and a wand.
Guys, we are three and a half bars till we're feared.
If the trinket doesn't drop, I think we'd just say the trinket didn't drop and we move on because...
Man, we saw the legs...
Twice. This weapon three times. This weapon twice. The wand once.
We haven't seen the gloves or the trinket yet. The two things we're here for.
Blizzard, I'm on to you. Okay.
I think we all need one or two more runs until we're appeared.
Oh, wait, I have three questurnens. 275, 550, 275.
It's like a thousand rep right there.
I think we have one more run.
The thing about that shrinket, it's probably more of an AoE shrinket anyway.
single target there's no way that shrinkets that good. Each successful block
heals you for 120. Like that's got to be cracked if you're like one pulling
Scarlet Monastery or like any type of AoE with like five to ten mobs but how
good is that against like a boss? It's probably more like farming right? Probably
like very average against like even in heroics because you're only getting hit
by like two or three mobs at a time.
It's just maybe not that big of a deal if you don't get it on this last run here.
I mean, I want it to drop, but...
Bro, that shrinkage is so good. It's what lets you face roll when solo farming.
I think that's what I just said.
I believe that's what I just said.
All right, let's roll. Let's roll boys. Yo, Swole, thanks for the Primer. Weedah, thanks for the Primer.
LOL. That's how it goes, man.
I have adamentite figurine with 32 defense on it already.
The on use is only extra armor, so it's clearly way worse, especially in AoE.
Oh, Thor says it can also drop in heroic.
Oh.
Okay, I mean we'll definitely be back here for heroics.
I don't know, I'm thinking no matter what, we just send this to Ravierd for the key.
And then from there we do Hillsbrowder Black Morris.
Are you planning on doing arenas on the Paladin?
I think so.
dude the thing is is arenas come out in like when do arenas come out five days
they come out on Tuesday I think maybe five days I don't know if I'm gonna have
the time to farm gear from my battlegrounds
I definitely was going to but I really don't know if I'm gonna have that the time
To form gear before they come out
I could do no resilience arenas
But that that could be kind of probably kind of troll
Okay, there we go.
I think some of the PvP gear is actually pretty good.
Like that PvP mace?
Definitely not bad.
Pulling back here.
Transmog is not active on TBC, nope.
Would you take a haste manhand over a spell power?
No way, definitely spell power.
Let's see if this Legionnaire calls for help.
That one didn't.
Bro, that shrink is so good it lets you faceroll when solo farming.
Dude, sick.
Yeah, definitely have to farm it then.
Does Pally have a taunt? They do. Not in classic, but in TBC. Which I'm very happy about.
On Bista F out, nice poke. That's what we're talking about.
You know, I'm a casual, I just hit max level. We're starting to grind now.
Frick out? Oh, you're good man, you're good.
So the Legionnaires haven't been calling in any of the mobs here, which is interesting.
Okay.
Drink up, eat up.
Send it in.
I think I could put a lot of this spell damage gear in my bank or literally just delete it
because when can I use more spell damage?
Pretty much never, right?
At this point forward, I mean the only thing would be like farming maybe.
point forward it's like I got to be as tanky as I can be 70 dungeons heroics and raids
I could probably clear out a lot of this gear
How will you hold threat with minimal spell power?
It's gonna be rough, yeah.
That's why I'm kinda hanging onto this Avengers 5 set right now, even though I'm a little
squishier.
But in Heroic's threat, it's gonna be super rough at the start until I get like actual
good gear.
Man, this line of sight spots sucks, because this spot evades him here.
I think I just line there anyway.
Best spot is probably here-ish, but...
Nice.
nice static makes the problem yo yo hunters are your friend yeah we might need
up what's the cool on a misdirect I might need that like a lot see how it goes
two minutes okay so I can't do it every poll
think this is our last run here
So we're two and a half bars out and we have some quests to turn in
This isn't gonna get me killed is it I think this is super smart unless I die
let's go with that was super smart yeah let's do that
yep super smart that's the use deck run all the way up the tunnel
take it
hand of reckoning I don't think that exists exist yeah Philip our fell steel
leggings good for me yes there's not on the auction house though I have fell
steel guy although I do have two other legs but I think fall steel leggings are
better than both triple sake yeah I mean they have to be better
Oh, the warrior in our group can craft those.
I'm trying to think if I should.
Trying to think if that's worth it.
Hi, living his best life?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Home with mama, hanging out.
He's having a blast.
He's testing his voice out.
Bracers, okay.
There was some plus for venturing wrath, so fun dude.
I mean, it's around all the way to the end.
Nice.
Definitely getting a little more comfortable in this place after run number seven.
I guess it's about time.
Thanks baby.
Let's go guys, we got some lunch.
Shannon W, Thunderfury still missed. No, he's having to replace it.
What are you doing right now? We're running a dungeon.
Doing a shattered halls for some rep.
Okay, let's think.
We could do that same pull again, but last time it pulled everything.
I mean, we can pull, we can do this three pack for sure first.
I wonder if we pull the sides first so that the legionnaire doesn't pull it.
I'm trying to figure out how to do this like the best way.
Arena starts I think on the 17th?
Maybe and then the raids come out on the 19th.
If we do the sides first, I think we are technically fine.
Maybe that's the strat.
Want to kill the skull.
Want to kill the skull for sure, for sure, that thing slaps.
Tova, thanks for the prime.
Okay, so this one though, like...
Every time I pull this, it starts pulling the sides.
This side is going to be tough to pull.
Hunter pull maybe?
Actually, let me try to pull this and we just pull it back.
Did I pull?
Was it too close?
Okay, I didn't pull yet.
I'll just pull it all the way back here and if it pulls, then I don't know what to say.
a
10 years dead
and theory we should be fine now
and that works
I
Bubble cancelled
And potted almost got one tapped
Yeah, we want we can kill the school first to the mortal strike owns
I'm not sure I'm only on my 98th.
I'll let you know in a few more though.
We're getting, we're getting there.
What up, sir Zabor?
What's for lunch?
Got a little beef, salsa, beans, veggies, rice.
Oh, is this the one that we double-pulled?
This might have been the double-pull.
I'm gonna pull this one super far back.
Okay, I'm going to pull through the wall here.
Oh, our warrior said the last time I pulled the pet got feared and pulled the mobs.
Oh, that makes more sense.
And maybe the pet had Sprint on, got feared and like Sprinted all the way in the other
room.
I didn't see that.
That does?
Yeah, that makes way more sense.
Yeah, these mortal trigs kinda, kinda blast.
Ah, am I dying here?
Yep, crap, I should have bombed for myself.
Ah, good luck guys.
Hunter kites, Hunter kites.
Yo, it's cry.
All my add-ons are on discord, man.
Potential.
There's potential here.
There's some real potential here.
do have time to eat now. Yeah, I'm running no Avengers right now. It's going okay.
Thanks, brother for content. You got me back into wow after a long time and now I'm
Welcome back. Thank you, I appreciate the tier one sub dude.
No loot today yet, but this is the run where everything changes.
Right here.
It's where my pack ago?
Brutal, man.
I'm starting to hear that.
I haven't had any major surgeries in my fitness life, no, I've been pretty lucky.
Someone asked wizard oil versus windfury.
I think what it comes down to is windfury is better for single target and wizard oil is better for AOE
I'm not 100% locked in there
All that subtle wizard oil or windfury
All right
Oil up all the way just straight up oil always
I'm not sure all that subtle. I'll let you guys know what he says
I hate Tsar's keyboard with a passion.
That's not very nice, man.
Yeah, this is definitely our last run because we're 800 rep away.
We have some quests in Honor Hold and we still have two bosses left.
for your hope? Where to next? I think, I mean, I'm curious what you guys think, but I think
Grinding out
keepers of time
To revere it is the best because I get a really good guaranteed weapon
and legs and I need it I need keepers of time anyway and
Think there's also some individual gear drops I could get from there, too
You need that web
There's I think there's gear there's what like I think it's got to be
Gotta be keepers of time.
So Black Morris or the other one.
Glyve for headpiece?
Yeah, that too.
Or Old Hillsbrad.
I'm not sure which one has loot that I need more.
This cloak is better than mine.
The bernouse.
I
Went to do 70 we actually hit it yesterday
We I wasn't like I didn't I usually like playing out what I'm gonna do each day
I didn't plan to hit 70 till today
so we are
Like a little ahead of schedule there the a lot of my like levels in the middle like level 64 65
66
took like
Seven like six hours five hours
Five five and a half hours, but for some reason 68 through 70 only took me like three hours a level three and a half hours a level
so I'm like what the heck so basically
Leveled like really fast towards the end for some reason just another storm and anyway, so we're here a little earlier than I thought
He skipped the number yeah, I know I did it on purpose because I knew
And we should skip it.
What's been my favorite experience about TBC so far?
Probably like the 70 dungeons.
I think some of the quests while leveling were pretty sick,
but I think overall I still like leveling one to 60 more.
I think the grand quests were pretty good,
another storm quest were pretty good,
some of the epic quests, like the elite quests were pretty cool,
but I'd say the dungeons, definitely my favorite part so far.
And what am I looking forward to the most?
Taking Karazhan, taking Prince,
getting to the top of the Karazhan Tower
and killing Prince as the main tank
is gonna be like a big moment.
I think that's gotta be the one I'm most excited for.
That'll be like where the finale of this character
in my head is kinda at, right?
We've been wanting to do that for a long time, so.
I'd say that.
You know, Wulane, thanks for the prompt.
Yeah, TBC dungeons are great.
I really enjoy them.
I think the mechanics are good, the difficulty's good.
Trinket, trinket, trinket, trinket, trinket, I forgot the prediction.
And no trinket.
Guys, that is brutal.
No trinket.
I think we do, I think we do call G's though.
Cause I'm only 400 rep out, the quest will team me up.
Yo, I'm out since Revered.
going BM. If anyone wants to go on Black Morris, we send that. Yo, IMA, thanks for the gift
to T1. You know what, I'm going to take the flight path because that is quicker. Warhawk,
I think the plan so the question was do you not plan to play TBC much past phase one or two?
I know midnight soon and all that, but do you have plans to come back for Sunwell?
It's complicated
Phase one yes, we'll be playing obviously we're playing right now
Then midnight comes out. Yes, I'll be playing midnight. Then it isn't about
Midnight necessarily it's about when I come back to TBC. I'll probably be doing only things three
Which is a brand new character. We're doing only things three
right? And then we'll see where that goes. And then classic plus, right? So that's just
a lot of other things. Mainly only things to read in classic plus. So it's not really
about midnight as much. Because I'll play midnight either way. But I don't mean I don't
plan to play midnight. Long term, really, I plan to play midnight to check it out. And
have some fun and hit the new raid and see what that's about
and hit some mythic pluses, because I enjoy them,
but I don't necessarily, I plan to get back to classic
at some point, because I like classic, right?
Anyway, hopefully that answers the question.
It's not really about midnight,
it's more about classic plus and only things.
You need a crusader aura when mounting I use cancel aura in my mountain so I like I use my mountain as a bind
That's why I don't do it
It's weird that all the biggest wow streamers play classic I mean
Classic it's just it's the people's game right it's more watchable. It's more approachable
It's like we you know I've thought about this a lot over the last few years
is why that's the case.
And it's easier to just approach, and look at,
and watch as an outsider.
So like my wife, she doesn't play well at all.
And when I play retail, she's like, I just tune in,
and it just sparkles on the screen.
I don't even know what's happening.
But when I play classic, like to some degree,
it's still the same.
She doesn't know what's going on.
But you know, classic hardcore, am I dead or am I alive?
Like she can kind of tell that, right?
Like, I'm killing a mob.
Look at the health bar.
Look at the damage, right?
It's like, it's a little more approachable, right?
So, I think that's why that's the case,
especially for like, like viewers, right?
Do I miss hardcore at all yet?
A little bit, but we'll be playing
so much hardcore later in the year.
Ta-da-da!
Well, man, my pleasure.
Boom.
Ding revered, boys.
Seven runs plus three quests.
Ding revered.
only been six runs that's not too bad not too bad not too bad the thing is with
this one I don't think I need anything except the heroic key I could go to the
person right now but I don't think I need anything besides the heroic key
Well, next.
Unlocks heroic difficulty to Hellfire Citadel, got it.
So this is a count wide heroic access, 85 gold, wow.
So I can buy this, which is 85 gold, which adds spell damage to a head.
I can buy this, which is not good.
Yeah, I don't need anything from this vendor at all until Play to the Archmage exalted.
Um, um, um, um.
Okay.
Do you guys agree black Morris seems to be the move here black Morris or Hillsbred
Honestly this iron band of unbreakables not bad
And this bernus of shifting ages is not bad either
Yeah, let's do let's do Black Mores first Oh 30G closer to epic flying thanks for the
dungeon invites had a blast Hank in dude thank you very much ultra crystal guys we're 30G
be closer. W. Crystal. Um, plate hands. Are these worth using? 36, okay, I actually have
three different glove options. The first one is 722 armor, 36 stamina, no defense, but
I get shield block and block value. The next one is 943 armor 27 stamina plus 12 plus 12 so
30 40 almost 49 stamina and 25 defense the third one I get 17 defense less stamina but I get 20
damage in MP5. It's got to be fell steel, right? It's got to be fell steel. 25 defense
and 49 Stam and more armor. Yeah, it's got to be fell steel. Okay. And I actually think
I'm going to get rid of these spiritualist gauntlets because fell steel is way better.
I think I'm gonna get rid of these two.
Oh, it's 51.
Oh, plus 12, plus 12. Yeah, 51 stamina. Yeah, okay. Yeah, there's definitely have to be it.
Okay.
Laura says, did I do the black Morris attune? No.
Crap, there's an attunement, bro.
What?
bronze, drake, master's lair, is it just like a bunch of turn-ins, oh you have to do an
escape from turn hold, I mean I need that rep anyways, this is fine, I'll do one escape
from Turnhold of the Black Moors, I guess. Anyway, let's get over there. How do I even
get there? Go to Stormwind, I guess? Oh gosh, how do we get there? Is there a portal somewhere?
to Theramore from a mage, okay. Fly from Darnassus. It's got to be Theramore, Portalria. How did
you check that pre-quest I'm using an atom called a tune for that.
of the
, if any DPS of Laura wants to come share
the sale of sounds like we're gonna tune for black Morris and then run black Morris
five
Hmm
Oh, yeah, I'm still not done with my Kara Ohtun, I forgot about that.
I need Arcatraz for Kara Ohtun, but I'll get in that later.
Oh, I see why you guys are saying ported tarns, since I don't need to find a mage.
Yeah, whatever, I'll just do that.
Maybe that's a mistake, but whatever.
Do Arquitra's first?
Why?
Oh, because I need Black Morris for Kara attunement.
Ooh.
So if I do Arcatraz right now, and then Steam Vaults, Arcatraz into Steam Vaults, then
we can do Black Morris.
I should do that.
Arizan needs BM, so probably better to do Architras, Steam Vaults, than BM.
That's probably better.
But now I'm here.
Crap.
Yeah, so let's go to Arcatraz.
Hearth is on cooldown.
I might need a summon here, guys.
I might need a summon.
That works for everyone in the group.
If there's a mage in Darnassus, I could get a Shatport, maybe.
65
Yeah, I definitely need a summon
My hunter says he's stuck in booty pay my shaman is stuck in pheromore crap. Let's think about this
Um
We could do the Black Morris attunement. So old Hillsbrad. We could do BM attune then
hearth out since we need it anyway. That's not a bad idea. We could do the Black Morris
atunement since three of us are already here okay everyone says they're fine if
that too I mean everyone needs everything that I need we're all in the
same boat oh my gosh 11 minute flight path hype alright guys I'm gonna finish
slamming this food go to the restroom and fill up my water on this 11 minute
flight path it's perfect we're going to be of attunement then architraze steam
vaults, then Black Morris. We'll be Kara attuned after that and we'll have a lot of
rep and definitely more gear so we'll be right back.
I'm not sure what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to the rest room.
All right, boys.
We're back.
Once again, no crusader or a derp.
You know what?
You're right, man.
I'll put it on.
There we go.
Thanks for the reminder.
Get a mage port to Theramore.
Yeah, I probably should have, but I was thinking like I wanted to go to the restroom, drink
water.
I grabbed an apple as well.
Like between everything.
I was like, you know what?
Let's just send it man. Send the 11 minute flight path. It is what it is. I don't mind. I don't my little AFK time
Talk to the chat, you know
Vibe out get some food buffs
Just re up real big
Did you figure your build out okay, so if you missed the start of the stream
I've been testing two builds the first build is the Avenger shield build and the second build is the sanctuary
But yeah, I haven't leveled up my inchy yet
Well, you heard a crunch on the album, huh? Let's go
That's why be is OP what's be
E. Blood Elf? Yeah, what do they get? Don't they just get like an AOE silence? Manitap
pulls how do you pull with mana top is it like a proximity a we silence or am I
trippin
all
thanks for the summons guys
Man, it's out.
Reduces the target's mana and charges you with arcane stacks, 30 second cooldown, 30
yard range.
Bro, I should have played a blood elf, man!
I should have been a nice layer horde blood elf farming peekaboo or pulling from range.
What the heck?
What are we doing?
you still can raise changing you can't raise change you can't server transfer
either to the master's layer caverns of time. Let's go just boost one. Oh, yeah, guys, I'm
just going to level from 58 to 70 again without a thunder fury this time. Give me give me
be another week, then we can pull from range.
I have a nice crunch, ma'am.
Oh
Very crispy
Bum-bum-bum. Oh, is this the one where I have to do the escort? Oh
the
the custodian
to sit right there in a lot of complete
Wow.
We're just gonna sit here then.
Have to wait...
for the RP.
Nice.
I'm not using the War Horse because it costs mana, man.
So, we have 437 defense with these gloves on.
You know what I need is another really good ring, better bracers, better belt, better
ring. Guys, is there any world where we hit 490 defense and keep our Avengers 5 set for
the threat? Is that ever possible? Every other off piece has defense. No, doesn't work. The
math doesn't work
Like what am I really going for here then like
You know what we need is the Pali tier what is it?
The blue tier set I don't even know what it's called
Like this stuff right like this
I need that man
Posh with stream of money his hands are too soft to hold fruit without cloth
Squishy, thanks for the five man. Yeah, we have to hold the
The apple with a paper towel so we don't get sticky hands. You don't want to stick your keyboard trust me
Like we need we need this set bro defense damage sockets stamina in armor
We'll do steam vault later today
that drops were locked in a dialed if this ring drops oh yeah steam vaults are
really good for us we're gonna do it in like an hour this chest to be good and
this ring would be good we need to get in there anyway
Thank you very much, man.
My town ranking consecration at all.
Yeah, I used rank one here and there.
Save mana.
The loon bisadon is pretty cool.
What's that?
Loon bis?
I'm not sure if I can get to the top of the hill.
I'm not sure if you can see it.
Huh, the vest is this?
I wish I was just going off of this 60 upgrades.
Steam Vault is one of the best dungeons I can do.
It gives me a really good neck, good gloves, good cloak, and good chest.
Steam Vault is probably the highest value dungeon I can do.
my humble appreciation
crunchy serpent, thank you bro
have you established your carousel raid group yet?
I have not.
Archa Maia is an absolute gamer healer shaman.
Maybe I should try to recruit this guy for a kerosene.
And we played with Archa Maia years ago back in hardcore as well.
We played up prop alley.
Now I'm the prop alley.
So that's crazy.
I'm not going to be able to do anything about it.
Any new gear?
Nothing yet, man.
Actually, I'm using fellow steel gloves I got from the auction house, or actually I had
a friend make them for me.
Uncle Oswald, you can see right there.
Honestly, my trinkets are pretty good.
I have adam anti figurine and stylings. I could probably get away with that.
If all steel gloves are good enough too,
face of death is good enough.
I need, I need a better Libram, but that's not till Heroics.
Okay, guys, it's been seven minutes and it, oh my gosh,
you guys were locked in a dial on that seven minute hype. Let's move. Let's move.
Okay, so now we go into Old Hillsbred.
Is that this way?
It's been a while.
Hype.
Told you.
You did tell me.
Zabooza!
Wait, Zab, are you playing?
Or is there multiple people named Zabooza?
That might be a different Zabooza, actually.
Liver on Returnal Rest from Sethik, yeah, I'll do a Sethik or two today.
Just gonna try and do all of the dungeons.
So right now, we're basically doing the pre-prebis grind, the pre-pre.
We're getting enough gear so that we can do Heroic, see, and more gear.
It's a Naruto character, oh, is that Boosa, I feel like I actually knew that.
Travel to Dernhold Keep and set five charges at the barrels located inside each of the
internment lodges.
Oh, great.
Um, it's been a long time.
Dude, this dungeon is...
Dungeon's crazy.
Does anyone like it in here?
This place is so confusing then.
No, no, no, I despise this place, yeah.
I don't know.
It might be my least favorite TBC dungeon or something.
RIP and M+, yes, it'll be set in M+, hard.
Well, we got Honor Holder beard at least.
That feels good.
Wow, this flight path is so slow.
Wait a minute.
If the raids are easier than the heroics
and the raids have better gear than the heroics.
Then why are people doing the heroics?
Yes.
Wait a minute, have you guys already thought of this?
What's the point, man?
It's for badges?
Don't you get badges from raiding or am I trolling?
Don't you get badges from Raiding as well?
Not until Zulamon.
Oh really?
So you can't get any badges and the badge gear is good?
Okay, that kind of makes sense.
I don't really know where to go.
I know this place is the low-level questing zone that we've done a hundred times in hardcore.
Hardcore hard?
Yep.
I was supposed to jump down.
There she is.
We're blasting.
I've never I've never done that. No. Are you gonna get tuned for Kara? Yeah, Kara a
a tune plus black morse a tune for like gear we're doing two birds with one stone
whoops whoops two misclicks in a row i've been changing a bunch of key lines nice
of
Can we get that credit already?
And tournament lodge is set ablaze.
I think we did that first one.
Nice, we got the second one.
Oh, 1 out of 5. Nice, I see it.
Cool weapon. What is it called?
Um, Thunderfury Blast Blade of the Windseeker, looks like.
Yep.
Oh my gosh, I'm out of water.
I have two waters left. Nice.
Definitely need some more water.
got to say blessed blessed blade now it's got to be blessed blessed blade it's got to
be blessed this dungeon is cool I'm glad someone likes it definitely feels a little
slow.
Blessed 100%.
Guys, how are you so certain?
How are you guys so certain?
It's blessed.
We got hooked up with some water.
Thank you.
Kitten, Button, Zorkton, blessed, blessed.
They're just trolling you? Oh, okay.
I'm realizing more and more that people just say things to troll me.
I'm the kind of guy that takes like everything serious.
I'm like, really?
You think so?
And it's just like, people are just trolling me and I'm realizing that it's like more and
more as I stream.
It's like, oh my gosh, people were trolling me the whole time.
No one was ever serious.
Okay, 5 for 5 bomb set.
Oh, this is keepers of time rep anyway.
Nice.
Okay, we got that quest done.
Oh, that looks like that's a boss.
It's been a long time since I've been in this place.
Die Lieutenant Trink, die.
Castle time.
Let's move.
Censar!
Thanks for the T1.
70 since yesterday dude.
We've been blasting heavily and hard.
It's been solid.
Now we're describing the pre-pre-vis so we can get the pre-vis so we can get into the
raid and get the vis, you know what I'm saying?
Ah, I think we can skip those.
Oh, or not.
of
someone told
loon this list out on I guess is what people are using I don't have it though
wait is it do we go in the basement in the basement drawl I can help
I don't know if everyone needs- Oh.
Bro, I never got it.
No way!
Dude!
I was waiting for everyone to be ready, man!
They can share?
I don't know.
Wait, that's weird.
They can share it.
Nice!
The share worked.
Nice!
Beautiful.
Cool.
That's kind of weird if they didn't give the option.
Normally it would be like so and so was starting the quest would you like to do it with them or whatever
Same thing happened to me weird once we plugged out or something
Follow me, Thrall, follow me.
Actually, I don't really know where I'm going, but I would assume we're going this way.
Oh, safe Thrall.
Don't let Pharrell die, guys.
Oh, Pharrell's a camp HP.
That would have been brutal.
Yeah, walked in here.
Not a very previous, not so much.
Loon with the add-on.
This dungeon was the best.
I feel like people either love it or hate it, and like most people, I think, hate it.
Thrall's running all the way back to his jail cell.
Thrall this way, man.
This way.
Thrall, get over here, Buster.
This dungeon sucks.
Yeah.
Sub-Zahm without Lil Trusky.
It's a good first experience, got into farm, fair enough, yeah.
Alright.
I think we're done.
Captain Scarlock.
Oh no.
Not Scarlock.
Wow, there we go
Okay, wings up a we up righteousness up shield up
Beautiful
So game thanks for the sub
We got an axe 62 DPS
Nice. I don't really know where to go from here. Maybe I'll talk to Thrall.
Going to Terramill then.
Let's ride.
I love the way wings sound when you pop it. The sound is good, the look is good, the feel
is good. When you pop wings, it's just good. It's just so darn nice. Yo, Trick. Thanks for
6. No, I haven't seen that. Have you guys seen that? I haven't seen that at all. Is that
So so that's why warriors are so apesunders is bugged
Apparently armor is bugged on heroics and these these warriors these cheaters dude
It's so weird when your fond memories are disliked by others.
I think a lot of people have fond memories of this place, but people don't want to spam
it over and over.
How many hours did it take you to level from 69 to 70?
Three and a half, three and a half.
Hey, you saw our longtime fans. You can see what's getting into. Definitely, definitely.
RetailVet here. The problem is if you're a RetailVet, you probably want to play Midnight
and Midnight comes out in two weeks. Sorry, bro. You got screwed by Blizzard. It happens.
I'm pretty sad about it, too. As a longtime Retail player and classic player, it's pretty
edge.
So.
Honestly, midnight prepatch did not feel good.
I haven't played prepatch yet, but like I definitely am going to play the X-Bag.
All right, we're all sneaking in from behind here, huh?
There we go.
Yeah, I remember this.
Looks like a big black dragon that comes from the sky, I'm pretty sure.
Is this the last boss?
Something's riled up that horse!
Let's go and take a look.
Jones, thanks for the T1 sub, appreciate it.
With TVC being a one year cycle, you think they're going for perma-rath realms?
I wouldn't be shocked if they did.
But if there's perma-rath realms and classic plus, it's just going to be a lot man, we'll
of
to
go on this way now
That could like maybe work, but I don't think they're gonna do that.
Plus, it's then you have Outlands and Flying, which I don't like in Classic Plus.
I think as good as TBC is, TBC made a lot of mistakes.
Flying I think was a mistake.
Itemization, like, I'm not itemization, but item scaling, I think was a mistake.
The items are so good.
The world is so big, flying.
What the heck is going on?
The epoch hunter out there is really getting in the thrall's head.
Yo, let's move out.
Oh, there he is, there he is.
It's pretty rad. Pretty cool boss.
Really?
and
Well, sorry for you, Epoch Hunter, we're all overleveled and overgeared for this, so
I don't think we'll be the ones dying today.
No, we haven't done Black Morris yet, we're doing that after...
We're gonna do Alcatraz, Steed Vault, and then Black Morris.
And we'll have Shattrath Earth after this, hopefully it won't be too bad.
Morass, my bad. Not Morass. Morass.
Trollton, Art Dey, you hear that?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Stamina strength resilience ring
If no one else needs that I'll need it
Massive is that massive are we turning the class good comms? I
Don't know if I don't know if that's massive it
I mean, is it I don't know if it's better than the scenario ring of casting is it better than Angelica's
It's more stamina more strength and 17 resale might be better than 9 defense 12 dodge. I
don't know
39 resale equals 1 defense I think oh
Sheesh
Pretty bad
Our warrior needs it anyway, let's give it to the warrior.
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,
Uh, return to Andormu in the caverns of time and then we're done.
Oh, nice.
Cool.
Oh, you can talk to him to teleport.
Nice.
Oh.
Oh, I thought you guys said that wasn't the last boss
Totally is the last boss. Oh, this guy's PvP flagged
Wow, that's kind of that's crazy that you're gonna do that to him Laura
I'll take the HK but like man, that's crazy. I'm just gonna kill
Just gonna kill him like that, huh? All right
All right, we're black morris attuned
Now we can go to black morris, but I think we go architras steam vaults black morris, I think that's the plan I
Have no hurts I need to get a hearth
Why not black Morris when you're already here we need to get the attune we have to do it anyway for the care out tune
So I have to run it twice anyway
I'm gonna drop group for the earth
Am I attuned to architras dude you're I need another attuned arc no way
Bro
Mech and bot our row can just open it. I
I don't know if we want to do mech and bot. I think we just give straight up. Okay, Laura, someone can just open it. Nice. Okay, that's fine.
Just need somebody with the key. Alright, let's just do that then.
This is where all the rockators are going to be real quiet. True.
Oh
Legendary shirt for a legendary thunder fear your tf a wheel dare. Let's see this
That does it kind of nice of that
Put that on. Thanks, Moose. Thank you, Moose.
Alright, so now we're going Netherstorm.
Archa-Mate and Viya.
And then I think we fly out.
Fly out Netherstorm and then fly up Arcatraz.
And then Steam Vaults after that.
why no epic mount we're definitely working on it we're definitely definitely working
on it that is definitely one of the things that we are working on currently yeah
that's what's happening.
Another little five minute beautiful, you know what up to Sweden has no one got invited
into a slab screw once you get the tank out on.
There's four packs already dead and a bunch of bones
on the ground.
That's kind of nice, all right?
I do want to hit another slabs later today
to see if we can get this great sort of horrid dreams.
That thing is sick.
normal flying is 60.
it's in nitrix plus gator law for that addon.
what's the attuned mechanic mean?
you can't do a dungeon or a raid until you're attuned for it.
so there's an addon called attune.
you can also use rest at xp to help you with it.
it'll just show you all of these attunements and which ones to do.
So we got all the classic wild raids.
Arcatraz though is a little different.
The attunement isn't like a true attune.
It's like an attunement for like one person attuned or a rogue to lockpick, but the other
one is like I don't think you can actually even get in.
the keeper of time rep anyway and to guarantees the weapon so I think keepers
of time is the next one we do I think we're getting close to the Kara tune as
well we're gonna kill this guy and get the third key fragment and we'll do steam
vaults kill this guy get a second key fragment and then turn in the key
fragments. Do black morris or go back and then we're done. Arquitraz involves black morris.
The minimap add-on consolidator, it's litrix plus. You just right-click on the minimap and
they're all here. It's really nice. What keyboard do you press on? The sound of it is lovely.
I'll link it in the chat, it's a keycrumb, and yeah, I'm obsessed with it too, I like it a lot.
Key purse is quick because you get 8k rep for the BM quest. Oh really? Okay, that's pretty nice.
Good to know.
My key purse of time rep right now is like halfway through friendly.
So I'll do the BM quest and then, yeah, probably send it like a couple extra times.
I
Yeah, I forgot about the night being a tune. What?
Only one member of the raid group needs to have the black and urn in order to summon night band
Does someone need a is it a new person that needs to earn every week or is it one person
that could use that earn forever?
Just one person that could use it.
So one person has to night beta tune.
Bro, we need that we need someone for our kerosene raid to bite the bullet and do the night beta toon
Oh, you need to kill shade. Oh
Savics, thank you for the raid man
Dude Savics we finally joined the 70 club dude. It's feeling nice up here, man
We're flying nice and slow. We're doing dungeons doing our attunements right now
We're doing a little architras steam vaults black morass
Combination it's gonna boom boom boom
And then from there locked in and tiled when you go keepers of time straight toward fear to get the legs get the sword
Where do you got these brand new fells to close from the auction house? They're massive. They're big
It's good. It's good, man
Holy crats dude
Dude, thanks for happening. Thanks are happening
Dude, Savik's, I was gonna maybe call you last night at our normal time that we usually call,
but I was thinking you might be, you were probably sleeping, so I didn't want to bother you,
because you've been getting up at like 3 a.m. or something, or like 2 a.m. So I didn't want to,
you know what I'm saying? My schedule's flipped, yeah, yeah. Anyway, what I was gonna ask you
last night is if you're leveling your rogue still or is it gonna be hunter
because I was thinking dude the raid comes out in seven days it's probably no
time to level rogue if I had to guess but I wanted to ask you see what's going
on now say her stone instead of her stone we got it her stone locked in
Oh there's a summoning stone. Good comms. Good comms.
Yo EmmaMama, thanks for the prime. We'll make it bro.
Savics, you plan to have a second 70 geared and ready
and a tune for Cara before the 19th raid.
Savics, are you doing okay buddy?
Are you serious?
That is
Savics, I don't know man. Are you sure? That's insane
Um, all right, all right, bro. That's what you're doing. That's what we're doing and it works
That that's that's crazy talk
Aren't attuned to count wide. Oh, that is true
I think we're still like a good day out of heroics man.
This is the gear situation right now.
I think I'm at 437 defense in my spell power gear.
If I want to go full tanky, I can go, I can definitely go like a bit tankier if I go full
tank.
I can go this and this.
I can go to 450 defense if I want, but then I lose like a lot of threat, but that definitely
makes me very tanky if I do that.
But I need 490.
I actually could do this.
If I put all of that on, I'm at 472.
Huh.
I wonder if that's actually worth it.
I go to 253 bonus damage instead of 330.
I'm soon as a hundred bonus damage. It's probably not worth it for normals
We're close. We're close though. We're very close
Everyone in the raid needs to be carelessly and yeah
Architras hype architras hype architras hype, okay
Guys, this is the big attunement right here.
I've done this place a lot.
I'm trying to remember when and why I did this place so many times.
I think it was, as a mage, I needed an item in here.
Was it like a wand or something? Or a shrink it maybe?
Okay we gotta pull this place a little slower though, cause these guys slap.
Was it a wand slash shrink it? Is that what it is? Yeah, I remember farming this place like a million times.
But it's been a while.
Tome of Arcane Brawling is too. Nice.
Oh, we have to kill these, I think.
and these guys really tied it out huh is he tanking his ret or is it a bug I'm
tanking his uh tanking his prod prod slash ret a little bit of both I suppose
are you liking multi-streaming now that you are taking a while with it yeah it's
Nice, it's cool. I think I'm kind of used to it now.
Sullivan upgraded the weapon? No, but it's probably happening today, man.
Keepers of time are a feared weapon, or if we get a Shadow Labs weapon.
and
of
It's not quite as good in heroics. For heroics this gear is not going to cut it, but for normal dungeons
We're looking mighty fine
Kings, we went back sanctuary for this since they're easier.
Only 70, kha, true.
Let's take a look at the loot in here.
Yeah, I've talked to Mingle here and there
These gloves are okay, but we don't really need them
Yeah, this wand this wand is what I farm this place a million times for on my mage
And then the shrink it yeah wand and shrink it I do I knew it man
Say I remember being I remember living in this place last TBC like a hundred runs in this place
I'm glad you're enjoying the channel, man.
I got both of those on my first run.
That's crazy, man.
That's usually like 100 runs deep, no gap.
Oh, okay.
Just getting mana pot then.
that's a crazy curse 74 strength 74 stamina while
I almost want to like wait for that to fall off.
Sword has dropped in Shadow Labs for us.
Grats to someone man, that Sword is dope.
Breastplate of the Bould drops from last boss here.
There's no Pally chest here.
That ring is sick.
I think we just go we don't don't think we need to then max it
Oh, and maybe we did we have a massive curse maybe yeah, maybe we should wait for this curse to fall off Wow
of
all
Nice big mana font there.
Is that too late to play TBC?
Nah man, you're good.
It just came out a few days ago.
Steam Vault's chest?
Yeah, that's the one we need.
is up next right after this.
Block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block, block.
Yo, Carter Perry, thanks for the prom.
shaman healing, stream, tix, i don't even know
94, looks like, yeah, 94
oh shit, thanks to the prom
rich goob, thanks to the prom
tbc out, all of a sudden you hold
Okay, so here is the Arcane Container.
Yeah, spy plant, thanks so much, dude.
Kirkky, five gifted subs, and we're on a high terrain.
Thank you, Kirkky.
Welcome in, guys.
I think this is what we need for the attune.
It's a key frag, I think.
Nice.
So technically we could leave and go steam vaults right now,
but we might as well do the rest of this
because we're already here and drop some good gear.
And we need the rep anyway definitely finish this
Want a finger and a chest
Dude, I love having a range full to pull with this instant like exorcism so nice
Oh crap, these things, we need to kill them stat, boys.
Yeah, I just definitely, okay, bubble cancel.
Nice, okay, it's not being anymore.
I don't want to focus one at a time.
Yeah, two of those.
That's deadly.
Oh, no.
Did we pull another?
Oh, hunter pet pull.
It happens.
Into a third one, baby.
Into a third one.
Should be fine though.
See you in Heroics, dude.
Soon enough.
I think we'll be able to do our first roach by tomorrow.
Hunter pet pull happens more like Hunter pet pull expected, true man.
I should have airleafed your hunter that wouldn't have happened. Dude, we're came it up. This guy's fine.
It's all good, dude.
We're crushing it.
Place is crazy.
What's the current gear score? I don't know.
I don't be at the add-on for that
We're at like 450 defense though, man, so we're definitely getting there
What's better one-handed spec or reckoning I think the log show that reckoning is better, but I kind of like one-handed spec more
Yeah, we got a second soul leader, great.
Okay, it kills on me then.
Oh, dude, this place is no joke, even on norm.
Any good reading lately?
I'm still finishing up Black Swan.
It's been a good read.
It's been a very good read.
Dwight, it's an add-on for my business.
I'm using just a 60 upgrades link.
pin to my shot if you want it. There's a chest over there. What did I think about
Lyris? I wasn't a massive fan of the book. I thought it was okay. I thought it was an
interesting read. It's interesting but I don't I don't know if I necessarily
I sincerely recommend it.
Who's loading?
Little fratresids boots, okay.
Perhaps on 70 a day late, thanks Duff.
Why not replace Thunderfury? There's no better alternatives yet.
But by the end of the day, I think we will.
I think another item or two or place our adventures and then another once we get
that keepers of time sword or place the Thunderfury and overall we'll have like
more spell damage than before and a lot more tankiness but we're gonna lose our
Thunderfury proc but that's okay
Honor hold sword, I don't know if I'm gonna get exalted in time
We'll see if I really want to swim in max. I might but we'll see
Honor hold is basically ten hours of shattered holes
So I don't know if I want to do that. We have a lot of like higher priority items than that I would say
Epic flying win as soon as we farm
5000 gold I think we'll pretty much buy it like right away once we farm from the gold up for it
You'll leon thanks for the prom
Spell cleave makes it go very fast. Yeah, that's what I did last TBC. She's spell cleaved it up
How are you going to farm that 5000 gold?
I'm going to try like a variety of methods to kind of see what works out the best for
me.
So I'll let you know.
of
I'm disarmed. Where's my thunder fury?
All right. I remember this, these two bosses being somewhat challenging,
but I don't remember why so let's just log in and use our intelligence when
things happen let's react that's what I think
Okay, I mean everything here is looking mighty fine.
To wrap with the Exorcism is great.
What's this, burns nearby enemies for fire damage.
Okay, we're gonna knock up, just run back in then.
This guy's getting slob. Maybe the other boss was the hard one.
Seems very chill.
Gloves to the young man! Actually, Stam Attack Power double socket.
Okay, now we're fighting Delilah. Hey there, Delilah.
What do we want from this?
nothing
Don't think that's as good as mine
Okay, I'm watching nothing here then watch the wand drop first time to warm up when we don't even need it
Let's move
chance to heal when enemy target when healed brutal I don't know who I'm supposed to kite
this I know hyped is heal can we kick that can't stun it give for the doomsayer yeah
Boss is healing a ton. Oh my gosh.
I guess you would try to like not heal me with this thing on, but because you kind of need to as well.
Give to the doomsayer. Or when I could try kiting this too. I guess I can.
Kick. Probably want to kick that. Nice. You can kick that. We could have kicked it last time too.
Oh
Yeah, mortal strike on this would be massive. I don't know
Brogues wound or four years that but that could be huge too
And no heels on me no heels on me of course the wand is a first drop dude
brother
When I'm on my mage this thing never drops. I did this so
many times
gosh, man
I lived in this place, dude.
We have no mage for it either.
No caster, not even a single caster in here, dude.
Wait, am I going the wrong way?
I'm going the wrong way.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, it's right here. I'm like, where are they? That's why it dropped. True. Watch, now the
Trinkets also gonna drop. I don't know if I've ever, I don't know if I ever actually got this
Trinket on my last mage. This time that we want the finger. The finger and the chest.
Although that chest isn't even that good.
It actually has less defense than this one and less spell damage.
I don't even know if I'd use that chest.
Maybe I would.
Triple socket.
That's a stone shield and an adamantite figure.
green croc. Stand this.
Lasting heavily.
Nice.
How do you like tanking? It's nice, it's fun, it's different.
Definitely alright.
Oh, if this pat comes all the way around, we're kind of screwed.
Yeah, let's bring this back then.
Arkamea.
Pat right behind you.
Okay, nice. We didn't pull it, I don't think.
and
the fall
It's probably where you're going in TBC. It's very good
Can you show your talents if you can?
Sure.
I'm using the no-aventure-shield-crot-rep build right now.
Seems to be working decently.
But if you want a venture shield, then you just swap like two talents.
grab a venture shield and you drop Sancta Diora. You can kind of go either way but I've been testing a
bit of both today. K-Bot, thanks for the T1. Not to take the juice out of the squeeze, but I would
play all the mage specs a bit in the pre-patch to see if you still want to play the mage in midnight.
That's, I mean, yeah, that's a very fair suggestion. I think for me, I've always played a mage
in retail since TBC so for me it's like I kind of just want to like play it and
try it and if I don't like it I would maybe just stop playing midnight all
together you know what I mean I'm trying to think like what I would what would I
actually play in retail if it wasn't a mage. Yeah maybe a rogue. Maybe I do a rogue. I don't
I don't know if you have to stack or run away from that.
It might be a stack angle.
Our healer is
very scary right now.
I think we're fine though.
Nice.
Warden Melakar.
Well, I think playing Midnight will increase
or decrease your viewers, probably decrease,
but like I want to try it anyway for a bit.
And if I'm not liking it, then that's fine, at least I can say I tried.
I really enjoyed last retail, I really enjoyed Warthin for like, how long did I play Warthin
guys?
At least two or three months?
It was really fun, I liked it on launch.
Very different than classic WoW, but it was fun.
You went hard for like three months? Yeah, yeah, it'll be it'll be fun
We'll do that same kind of a deal
That stack up
Yeah, I can't believe a hard normal dungeons are in TBC, this isn't even a heroic
I mean we haven't like wiped yet, but it's just like everyone's got to be like kind of locked in
You know
This is one normal mob in a dungeon.
Imagine how hard this was 15 years ago, or however long it was, 16 years ago, for real.
So I don't remember this final boss, but I think you kill this guy and he summons another guy and then you got to do something
So once again guys, let's play at our toes
Play quick play smart play fast. Let's get it
Let's go seal a pension sucks
You just go seal a righteousness
Which is kind of sad that you don't even use that.
Yo, Zardarok, thanks for the tier one dude.
Cielo Wisdom is more like a solo play thing, not really in group play as much.
In group play it's like sealer righteousness and crusader you just have a ret do.
You could throw in like wisdom or light on a boss sometimes but yeah.
What do you plan to swap to a spell power weapon? Right when I get one, man.
Right when I get one.
Seal Twisting win. Seal Twisting is pretty much never worth it as a prot, unless you
want to parse and use a two-hander, which I was reading up on last night.
You can like, you can two-handed prot tank to parse, but it's like...
It's like grief for your raid. It's like it's like good for parsing, right?
But yeah, that's when you would want to do it one-handed seal twisting as a prize
This is like Lucy dude.
One hander is too fast for twisting, yeah exactly.
You sounded like you were going to try it.
Two handed prod?
Nah.
I like, I like taking with the shield, I think it's cool.
I'm gonna like to like to speak to you.
C.L.A.
Vengeance isn't worth using even on any like I talked to one of the best prop allies and
he said to literally just drag it off your bars and never use it.
The TLBR is under perfect circumstance, it's going to give you a very small damage increase.
But in practicality, your stacks will probably end up dropping and you're going to lose damage.
So you just do not want to use it, basically.
So basically just on-bind, seal up, and sell together as a prod.
and
The year dispelled MC sundom bring Laura bring the boss away from Laura here. I
Don't know which one's the real one I guess this one
Why not you see the crusader on the on the pole you need snap threat or else people just pull from you
So I actually knew no crusader
You could then argue why not crusader like midway through the boss after a threat is established
But then by then it's like it's even worth it. Usually not
Okay walking tile
Wow dude this boss is hard
very hard we get dagger chest all right huge for the shawm I don't for rogues the
dag see what's happening here kerosene steam vault time huh we go steam vault
for this and this we get the key fragment and then we go black morris sv time baby i
don't have her thought i'm gonna geto i remember that dude i killed him 30 times to get the
assassination helm and by the time i got it i had tier 4 already definitely sounds about
right. Have you done dirt old? Yeah, we just did it. Buy more water. Okay, really good
comms. Definitely water. Irish defense like I like here, this is for people wondering.
So Irish defense, this is for you.
This is Suddle's complete guide to Prop Pally.
This is what he says about seal of vengeance.
Seal of vengeance is more trouble than it's worth.
Technically it is a tiny DPS increase on average to weave or twist SOV and SOR if played perfectly.
But in practice, your SOV stacks will constantly fall off, and it's common for it to be a DPS
loss.
SOV does not have a 100% proc like in Wrath, so you'll have a low expertise in melee hit
and TBC, which leads to frequent stretches of no procs.
And I talked to him personally, and he said to un-keybind it.
So that's not from me, that's from the expert.
So you can choose to listen to that or not, but I choose to listen to that.
That makes a lot of sense to me.
Can you link that?
Yeah, it's pinned in the chat, guys.
Alright.
Where do you buy water?
I don't think the innkeeper sells it.
Oh, this guy.
Give me that water on thirsty
Steam vault height steam vault height
Can you link that yes pin in the chat guys
Can you turn off family friendly tell chat to stfu and then turn back family friendly on
Yeah, I uh, I don't know. Yeah
Yep, yep, yep, it is what it is, man.
I can give people all the reasoning in the world, like you can, what's the quote, you
can lead a horse to water, but you can't make a drink.
I can tell people all the info, but if they don't want to do it, that's fine, that's on
them.
I think I could put a lot of this gear in the bank too.
You can lean a backseater to a pro guide, but in the end they'll still yapp at you.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
One of the things that I've done lately to combat the yapping backseaters that are confidently
wrong is have a pro on my side, right?
So because like I don't know like who am I like I'm not a pro, probably pro, right?
So ask a professional, right?
And I learned this when I was playing RuneScape.
There was a lot of RuneScape backseaters that were just wrong.
Like they were just confidently wrong and like saying, Hey, do this and they were just wrong.
It's like, what's going on?
So what I did is I found some like pro runescapers that were like super experienced.
I'm like, Hey, what should I do?
And they're like, yeah, don't listen to chat.
They're all wrong.
Do this.
And I'm like, great, cool.
Nice.
We have some good info here.
And anyway, when it came to like my my prop Pali in classic, like moon was the classic
Pali.
Prott expert.
And I was like, just what's that's moon?
What's that's moon?
So I basically defer the question to an expert and then see what they say.
Right.
Anyway, we have we have subtle he's been asked he's been answering a bunch of great questions
So shout out to subtle for being the prop Pali expert that we need
Any new gear today to nothing
From five and a half hours of game and nothing nothing yet
But we're gonna get a lot of good gear today. Trust me guys any
any second, any second now, any second now.
Subtle's a very strong palisaurus, yeah.
Ironically enough, you guys recommended me Subtle.
Twitch chat said, Hey Zah, reach out to Subtle,
he's gonna know all the stuff you need to know.
So we reached out to Subtle and he does know all the stuff.
He is that guy.
All right, let's go to Steam Vaults.
I need to buy some more, what do I need?
I need some more symbols of kings and shats.
Where do you buy symbols of kings and shats?
Probably lower city.
T-shirt length, gotcha, bro.
Maybe somewhere over here.
If you guys are on YouTube, I'll link the guide right here.
Trade goods.
Not trade goods.
Reagents.
I'll be this guy.
What do you think you would like?
Would you?
Okay.
Crusader aura, good comms, good comms.
Good comms.
I do need to level, oh, wrong bank, I do need to level Enchanting soon because we get plus
12 spell power to rings and we have all of these enchanting mats are rotting in
the bank. Oh our warrior had to go. Alright guys is there any other warriors? Or I
guess any it doesn't have to be a warrior. Any anyone else that wants steam vaults
and we're gonna do black morass after steam vaults? You guys want to do steam
vaults black morass semi-whisper? Or does or does steam vaults is fine too if you
You want to bounce after that?
Amelia wants both.
Amelia, you're back in.
Your teeth is crazy wild.
Plus we have a caster now.
That's good.
All right, let's go steam vaults.
Let's hit it, baby.
We got water.
We got symbols of kings.
Oh, I forgot to put.
I was gonna empty my bags a little bit.
I don't need this, this.
I don't need this, this, this.
Probably don't need.
I mean, dude, like I, I'm so squishy.
I only need like the gear I have on or tankier gear
Yeah, this is I'll keep this stuff
Cool, that's that's like that's like the only gear swapping. I think I'm gonna need for a while
Yeah, that looks good
I think I would use that neck and this cape this cape is really sick and then this ring I would also use I believe
this is my first steam vault I actually like this dungeon this thing is sick this will be interesting without
a vendor shield we'll see how it plays out for us
There's a really good neck in here.
I think I would use that neck and this cape.
This cape is really sick.
And then this ring, I would also use, I believe, this chest I would use.
So ring cloak, chest, maybe neck.
Lot of good drops in here.
But we're also here just for our Kara Tune as well.
Dang, 70.
I read that was fast.
go man. How do you move party frames? You change the color. Yeah, so you go to edit mode. You
click on your party frames. Wait, give me a second here. Okay, give me another second here. Okay,
You go to edit mode and then click on them.
Give me a second here.
It's definitely in here somewhere.
Give me another second or two.
Is it behind this?
No?
Okay, give me a second.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
It's in the...
Give me a second here.
It's definitely somewhere...
Yeah, I swear they moved this thing a couple different times.
Raid style party frames. Okay. Um, give me a second here. Oh, let's see here
They moved it from here, I think to edit mode, but it's not an edit mode and it's not here
So if it's not in here, and it's not an edit mode
Okay, okay, it is an edit mode. They moved it to edit mode. It's not here because this is unchecked. Okay
Okay, go to edit mode, click party frames, then click this, then check use rate style
party frames.
They made it a little more confusing, but it is still there.
You just gotta click on this.
If this isn't highlighted, you gotta click this, and then click this, and then click
this.
And you lock it in safe.
Anyway, let's let you do it.
You were right.
Yeah, yeah.
So edit mode was hidden or something.
Took me a while to find that the other day, bro.
It took me a while.
It takes me a while to find that every time.
Yo, what up, Fink?
How's it going?
Sick, thanks for the summon, guys.
Steam vaults.
I want to say it's this one.
Is it true that you're scared of facing Grayson in the arena, and that's why you leveled a Paladin?
That's the main reason I am playing Paladin, yeah. That's the main one.
But aside being scared, like completely afraid of Grayson, there are a couple other reasons too.
I think if we get this chest, we like bite the bullet and put all of our gear on.
I think if we get press plate of righteousness and we just say screw it
let's put on fell steel helm and we probably put on creeps of the shatterer
and then we probably put on yeah probably put on Klan's spoulders as well
and we're gonna look like this oh gosh all right see we get it yo Chris thanks
We're up grinding a world tour. We're doing a little bit more of a world tour right now.
We've done a lot of different dungeons today. We do need the rep as well, so it's kind
of like a 2 in 1 here.
Any heroics today? We'll see what we get. It all comes down to gear trucks. I need enough
gear to do heroics. I need 490-ish defense to do heroics, so it's like it's more like
are we going to be able to get the gear we need. So far we've been playing for six hours,
we have zero upgrades today, so we will see where we're at by the end of the stream. We
definitely need a lot more gear.
I'm looking for a crate one handed sword that could take me from 60 to 70.
Any ideas?
recommend Thunder Fury plus Blade of the Windseeker.
Yeah.
I like this dungeon. This place is cozy. Oh! Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Someone pulled! Someone pulled! I'm silenced. Too many public
cancel for the silence. Okay, got em all. Woo! Woohoo! I like this dungeon, this place
is cozy, like I said. Steam vaults. Who's loading? That's gracious. Wow!
Nice.
We need all this for the wrap, right?
So might as well just clear this stuff.
But I still PUP not a ton.
Is that Rep Bar as your experience bar?
I'm only doing this place once, but I could.
I think once we want to farm Rep,
we wanted to keepers of time Rep.
That place has some good legs and a good weapon.
and
call
and
cool
to
I don't know if I can pull these without pulling these. I think I probably can
Yeah, there we go
No
Get lower city rep for the spell power maze. I don't know if that one's quite as good
I mean, I'm gonna need to get all the reps anyway
Okay, because I need to get heroics.
That one's exalted and it's slow, so I don't like that one.
It would work, but...
Yeah, Honor Hold is my favorite one, but Exalted Honor Hold is a grind.
Yeah, with so many options, we can kind of can take our pick.
Orders from Lady Vash.
Okay.
I think normally we can skip like a lot of this trash,
but I don't mind clearing it for the wrap.
Exalted on our halter means six hours.
Wow, okay.
Were you even spoke leave shadow holes run I would assume
Yeah, revered caverns of time one I think it's just like kind of a no-brainer
Let's see if I can grab this.
You could buy Rep very, very cheap with scenario in.
Is that true?
I mean, I'm halfway through already because we did a lot of dungeons while leveling.
I need the chest piece in here no matter what though it's not even about the rep it's about
the gear.
You see the post about how armor and creatures were broken I've been hearing about that yeah.
damage dealers, it's like a 20 to 40% nerf. That's brutal.
Melee Cleveland shambles, is that why Melee Cleveland's so OP but leveling?
I don't know man, it was disgusting though.
He's looting.
If you guys were watching this stream, I did like Time to Runs from Melee Cleave versus
like Time to Runs with like a Spell Cleave.
And the Melee Cleave was so, so fast dude.
It's quick almost as quick as we get run to the end is how fast you could go on the mobs
Who's loading
There's a second pack coming
I remember running this place a lot too, I think I just did like first boss runs for
something.
Can't quite remember, and I think the thing that we need is in the water, below us.
Nice dude.
and champ racers.
We can get key after boss.
Polly tanks are so good in TBC, they're feeling very nice, yeah.
In my gear, it's pretty bad too. 437 defense is definitely brutal.
I don't remember this exact fight.
I think it'll come back to me in the middle.
There's like maybe waves of water you have to avoid?
Like water tornadoes or something?
of
of the
role on the one point one KDPS of the meters
absolutely disgusting
and canner's gloves I
and
I think the attunement is like down here for memory
Alright guys, we're standing up. We're standing up. I'm standing at this time. I'm trying
to do better at standing, dude. Let's go. Let's stand. Let's stand. Let's stand. Let's stand.
stand. That's nice. It's very nice. I think I actually went a little too high. Oh, thanks,
babe. Oh, we got a protein shake, too. Locked in and dialed. Okay, so we just have to return
to KADGOR after this and go Black Morris. And then we're pretty much done so with our
carry out tune. That's fire, man.
What rep is Shadowlobs? I think I might just spam Shadowlobs because I need the rep anyway.
lower city. Yeah, I think I spam Shadowlubs because then I could get this sword, which
is sick. And then I need the rep anyway. For the maze? No, just for the sword from last
I don't think we if we didn't get the sword and that sucks, but
Yeah
No matter what we'll do black Morris after this
Then after that I might spam slobs I
Don't know if there's anything else I need besides the weapon though which kind of sucks
It's literally just a weapon, huh?
I don't know. I don't know what the most worth thing to form is. Is it is the best thing
I could do replace Thunderfury or is the best thing I could do replace Avengers? I mean
I need the rep anyway but we want some better gear so the rep form becomes easier. I need,
I guess I do need the defense the most.
I need defense more than replacing Thunderfury, I think.
Man, this place is so iconic.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, for sure, threat is not the issue.
Right, I mean I'm not really dying either, but if anything the defense is looking pretty
bad.
The thing about the weapon is though, if I got weapon for more spell power, I could then
put on all this defense gear in my bags.
So maybe I should prioritize replacing Thunderfury, because by getting the spell power weapon,
I could then put on like a hundred more defense.
Hmm. Exactly. Yeah.
Do Shatar. I could drop a weapon or a shield.
Shatar.
This weapon's a healing one, it's only 100 damage and it's exalted.
I don't like it as much.
Mechanar has a Wep.
If it's not me, that's a healing one too.
Oh yeah, I see it there.
We have a chest over here.
Yeah, I need the righteous set dude, come on.
Righteous, righteous.
of the
black Morris referred for sword if I do black Morris to referred the revered sword
from keepers of time
is good
It is just good, right? It's only revered. I could guarantee it in a few hours
The pants also, I don't even know if the pants are better than crease of the shatterer
But the sword is good
Counter-tip time rep is fast with spam BM
Yeah, maybe spam BM is actually the play
Yeah, maybe that's actually smart
Need the rep anyway. I
I think there's just zero items I need. Oh, I need the leg plates of righteousness.
Yeah, maybe we spam BM. Leg plates of righteousness and the sword.
of
Leg plates are right in the start of any avoidance on them.
I thought I saw defense, no?
26 defense.
Defense is my issue right now.
I guess not necessarily.
Like parry or block.
Defense is solid.
more ass got it more ass I said more is before I was more ass
Yes.
Pally's still loving mana, issues at 70.
A little bit, yeah.
Yes, a lot of bit.
Okay, what do we want from this guy?
This neck?
I don't know if it's better than mine.
I lose defense, which kind of sucks, but shield block and block value have got to be good.
I also use stamina.
I don't know if I'd use this neck or not, to be honest.
It's not better?
Yeah.
It's extreme.
I am going to be an engineer.
Stratkiboot's go kind of hard.
Yoink, no other engineers in the group, I guess.
Why don't you put judgment of wisdom for mana regen?
The boss fights are so short.
I need to snap pull with seal of righteousness and then if I go right to seal I'll lose threat
probably.
So I'd have to like seal of righteousness then swap seal of wisdom and then reseal.
Am I even gaining the mana back?
Maybe not.
Wait, do we have to click something?
We forgot the thing after the first boss.
Ah, crap.
Anyway, if a fight's like short enough, Judging Seal of Wisdom will lose you mana.
seals
and
the
18 days to midnight,
I know
and showing prop out, I'm liking it, I'm liking it
I think I have my frustrations with it too though
um
yeah
I definitely have my frustrations with it
I think one of the bigger things is like having to think and worry, you know, the mana thing
I was going to mention first, I guess I don't even care that much about the mana.
I think my biggest thing that I don't like about Prop Paladin is that it's not very interactive.
It's not very, it's not like a ton of buttons to press.
I like interactive gameplay.
I like, okay, I'm low HP, let me pop this, okay?
I'm good, let me kick, let me move.
I like to be able to hit a lot of things,
interact and have things to react to and to.
Crop Paladin, a lot of the times,
your hands are off the keyboard.
You kind of just go in there, right?
Sometimes you have things to do, but a lot of the times like you're literally just putting Holy Shield on cooldown and like
If you're judging too much or consecrating too much you're gonna go oom. So you kind of just
run in there, steal,
Holy Shield, swap targets and auto attack. Swap targets, auto attack. Swap targets, auto attack. Swap targets, auto attack.
Swap targets, auto attack. Now I could
Re-Holy Shield here or...
Okay, nice. Good grammar, bro.
I could do a second consecrate rank 1, but like if I use too much stuff my mana's gonna
get too low and like it's almost better to not do anything because then my mana stays
high and I don't need to drink.
So like that pull here I can do it again right?
So you pre-holy shield on the pull and you'll snap threat and then you'll reseal of righteousness.
Then you'll use a max rank conch, consecration and then you'll just swap and auto attack
Everything into like another holy shield and you just auto and swapping here
I could you take a rank one and then from here like you don't want to do anything right because you want to keep your
Manhai for the next pull
You don't even really want a holy shield let the MP5 tick so I don't know I guess my biggest frustration is how passive
This specialization like plays out right I want to be like really active and engaged
Which might just be a tank thing
I've heard warriors feel very interactive, yeah, but I haven't played one, so I don't know.
The issue is Crusader's Strike should have been a baseline ability.
Yeah, it probably...
I mean, maybe.
the
warlord case we need the chest everybody
pray to isn't the chest of this guy
yet chest pray to we need this man 20
defense triple socket
intellect stamina damage
huge the ring
will take the ring as well
cloak
Do I even need that cloak? Sure, I'll take the cloak as well.
We'll take the cloak, the ring, or the chest. Let's go.
Oh yeah, I forgot about this fight. You have to like take him.
Hmm, I think you have to like take him to...
Like something with these.
I'll keep my eyes peeled. Yeah, here we go.
You like... kill these, I think?
Yeah, then you like take him to the next one, I think, like this.
Maybe.
Spell Reflect, care.
Oh no, I reflected Thunderfury on myself.
Chest, cloak, or ring?
Chest, chest, chest, chest, chest.
Rain, I mean the rain dropped.
The rain dropped?
Definitely take that.
Cool, alright.
Beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful.
So if I put this on, I'm actually losing 18 damage.
But I think defense is more important than the damage right now in that slot.
Like my defense going to 445 I think helps me more than that extra 18 spell damage.
So I think I like this.
Alright, I think we go Black Morris, more ass, we'll just say it both ways so people
are happy.
So we can finish the Kara attune.
So we go to SHAT.
I'm going to Ked O'Hearth.
I'm going to Ked O'Hearth, SHAT, turn in the quest,
and then we go EM.
El Wursto, thanks for the front.
Both sides are triggered now?
True.
the
years years look at the same guys 445 defense in this set
and I can completely
better than that now if I go full defense I can get to
Oh
It's pretty good we're getting close to heroics getting very close to heroics boys
What do you need 485 or 490 is good 45 technically works
Hey, big fan, love your work. Passing these gifts along to say you're awesome and to welcome you as an honorary Power Ranger, the green dragon sword lull in some boxes.
Thanks, dude. There we go. Got the assassination blade and some big boxes. Thank you, Mr. Power Ranger. Definitely use the elixir in the meantime.
Are you worried about holding aggro and heroics with the defense set on?
I need a spell power weapon to hold aggro and heroics, like, period the end.
I will not be able to do it with Thunderfury.
Um...
So...
Once I have a spell power weapon, my threat will be better than it is now, I think.
Uh, kinda.
Close.
cool
go to caverns and time convince me to enable your restored apprentice key
BM time, baby.
Is there any mages in chat that could port us to Theramore?
That'd be massive.
Do you have Tiberius and Nygma? I do not.
You stopped using Pallymount?
Yeah, I caught some mana and I'm constantly um...
Coldsnacks as I can, huge.
Thank you, Coldsnacks.
Thank you, man.
Cold snacks can forward us from chat.
Hype.
Open your heart to the light.
We don't need this ring. We don't need this. We don't need this. I
Can't tell if griefs of the Shatterer are better or of the Resolute Defender
Resolute Defender is more parry and defense
But Shatterer is more
triple socket so like
36 more stamina if I go triple stamina sockets I
I don't even know which one's better.
Don't worry about keeping Agro-Sar.
People can slow, stun and fear.
You need to be tanky first.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
I think we are very close to being ready for heroics.
If I get a weapon to replace Thunderfury and one more defense upgrade piece, we're at where
we need to be.
super close.
Oh my gosh, cold snacks, you're big.
You have cold snacks, we're gonna have to do some dungeons real soon, cold snacks.
Oh my gosh, cold snacks.
Very, very geared.
Boots.
Boots are the only item I need.
Boots and a weapon. Where do I get boots from?
Boots are actually what I need. The weapon will come.
Continue in Blade, right? Keepers of Time have your weapon easy.
Where are the boots? Where do I get boots?
Blood Furnace? I mean that's in Heroics though, we don't want that.
Crap. Is there any boots? Boots of Righteous Path that's also from Heroics.
What are like the pre-prebis boots? I guess there isn't any. That's what I need.
I think if I got boots, that would put me up to 485 defense. We'd be there.
good boots from the manateum escort quest oh yeah people are saying manateum
escort crap did I already do that quest
Oh, no, I might have already done it.
Did I already like vendor those or something?
Oh, no.
I think I already did the escort.
I got these from the quest.
I disenchanted them?
Item Restore it?
I can check.
Let me see if it's on my item restoration.
Give me a sec.
Oh my gosh. What server am I on? Dream Scythe?
Okay, I'm on the item restoration page. I don't see him yet.
I still don't see him.
Still don't see him.
Unless I skipped the quest.
Wait, what are the boots called again, guys?
I'm gonna Google this.
They're these.
What are the other quest rewards?
This cryo mits
consortium princess wrap.
There's no way I didn't take those.
But I did do these.
I wish there was a search ID search function here on this item restoration.
This was from many days ago when I was still leveling.
I did Manitoum to like level...
I'm looking, I don't see it, I don't see it.
I might have disenchanted him, I'm looking, but I don't see it.
As of yesterday, the day before, I've disenchanted a lot of stuff, so I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling.
I'm still scrolling.
still scrolling you don't remember doing the escort quest maybe you never did it
if I never did the escort wouldn't it show on my map that I have a quest
available like all of these other quests feel like I probably did do the escort
Run print quest log complete. Let me see if that works. True. I did complete the quest. It says true.
Well what were they called again? Flush beast metal greaves. I did disenchant them. They're right here.
Why would I disenchant those I found them all right during my mailbox we got them back
Alright boys.
Alright.
These are better from escaping staging ground in Netherstorm.
These actually are kind of sick because they have damage on them and intellect.
Other ones had more stamina, armor and defense.
Oh, those are insane.
May metrics, thanks for the prom.
Alphusa, thanks for the two of them.
Enigma would probably defense cap you and the quest chain isn't long.
Wait, what's enigma?
You can get Tiberius enigma trinket from a quest.
The thing is with the Beery's Enigma, I have to replace Stylene's or Adamentite Figurine.
And both of these are insane.
I would actually lose defense replacing this.
with styliens I would gain it but I would lose avoidance.
I think where I need to be once I get those boots from the mail.
I think I'm legit
because just with these three items on my defense is 471
or with this on it's 480. Those boots I think will put me to 480 above 485
which is all you need for her is 485. I think I'm there man.
I just need to grab, I just need to put the boots on.
I'm gonna be pretty squishy, I think, I think I'm gonna be pretty squishy.
Stamina's pretty king early TBC, yeah, my Stam won't be quite where we want it.
where is BM again?
So over here.
Drive anticipation, yeah.
Is it this one?
I feel like it's this one.
Boots of righteousness are the best ones for pre-rigged bits.
They drop from more chief cargaths
from heroic shattered halls.
Thanks, man, appreciate that.
All right.
Sot inside Black Mordice of Catterton Town
you to defend Medivh until he succeeds. Return to Sat. Should you succeed? Let's do it. We've got to
open the dark portal, boys. The final part of the quest to attune. Okay, we can kind of just...
I don't remember exactly, but I think we can kind of just do this, right?
Oh, there we go. He's over here, guys.
Ah, the time we're being a pilot in is great.
Right here.
Yup, I'm a pilot in, baby.
No other class in the game can do this.
Yeah.
Alright.
Yeah.
Try to do that, Mr. Warrior.
Yeah.
Mhmm.
Main tank fall.
Hmm, main tank fall hug
Okay, rift open
No, I never said I wanted to be a warrior guys, I'm saying we're speaking couldn't do that
Why would I want to be a warrior?
It's not like they have better threat, more mobility, tankier, multiple taunts in case
you get a taunt immune.
No resource that goes empty after every single pull, crisis.
I like having a mana bar.
I like needing to drink between pulls.
I like needing to reap off my entire team consistently.
I find it enjoyable.
Guys, I'm going to need a drink after this one.
Give me a sec here.
of the
death
of
the time or apply, there you go to a start of the town of the town
of
very nice
very very very very very very very very very nice
okay so keepers of time right now guys is midway through friendly
once we get keepers of time refiered we get that weapon
either that or I could try my luck at getting the weapon in slabs but if it
doesn't drop then I'm kind of screwed
the
Weapon and legs?
The legs, I don't know if are better than the legs of the Shatterer, but the leg plates
of the righteousness, I do like better because it gives me a little more damage and I like
have a damage but yeah from the rep defense dodge triple saw oh wow those
are big those are better than than these ones wow their replates are 57 stamina
And triple socket that is huge
Okay, we we need a drink we've been on him
I don't know what's going on with that guy.
The pet just dragged that a range twice.
We got to pipe it down at the 100 pet taunts.
Yo, Nera, thanks for the two of them.
of
the
Absolute classic
This is probably gonna be fine this is probably gonna be fine here. I would say this is probably gonna be great in fact
Very, very, very nice.
Got a kidney shot by a rogue here.
Got a longbow.
Temporous up next.
Retail server crash? Oof. When am I tanking heroics? I think my gear is good enough to
tank them tomorrow. Although, I only have one heroic unlocked right now, which is the
Honor Hold one. And I'll have my second one, Keepers of Time Unlocked, Soonish. So we still
I think my gear is right there man.
I mean it's 316 PM. There's a chance we could actually do one heroic today on her hold.
is that I knew I don't know how realistic that is.
I think you can, heroic ramps.
I mean, maybe we could try heroic ramps today.
We would need the weapon for sure.
We need the weapon, consumables, enchants, keepers of time.
We'd have to spam PM, get refiered, swap all the gear,
and I think we'd be like right there.
and
what's easier ramps or blood furnace of the two ramps is easier
of
the evidence so hard ramps is easier surely rounds OK
You need to get figurine in the classes and I think it's better for farming we're we're talking about that earlier like it's really good I
Did like seven runs today. I didn't see a drop, but I think it's
Really good for farming
I don't think it's as insane for heroics or raids so really good, but I think it's mainly
of
and
people are saying once I turn this question to I get like 8000 rep or something
, how true that is
I mean while we're out here we should probably do an at least one more on though.
You will go 4k from Revere'd.
Wow.
I think we should probably do at least like one or two more.
Oh man, it's gonna be a sa- guys, once we get this wrap we replace Thunderfury.
That's it.
Once we replace it, it's-
We replace Avengers, Thunderfury, and it's like, that's it, man.
One PM and two OHF, and you're done.
It's OHF better than
BM for just quick rep.
BM is best for rep.
I don't know if I need anything from either one, to be honest.
Hey, thanks man.
We're getting close?
Honestly, my gear is probably good enough to do Karazhan already.
Funny enough, because I think it's good enough for Heroics, and Heroics are technically
it harder than Kara. No, no, no. Guys, trust me, it's definitely good enough. Not uncrushable.
I think I, I mean, we'll see when I put those boots on, but I think I'm uncrushable. I think
have a void in defense gap and avoidance gap with all my gear on if not it's
pretty darn close of temper is this here if I'm not 490 I'm gonna be like 480
480 something so my I might need one more gear upgrade but we'll see I think
Pali's want to avoid in Scout with a readout and Holy Shield
you need the Liberum oh dude yeah that Liberum is insane forgot about that
that'll probably be the first thing I buy with my batches
Powerglass, huge.
Massive crowds, Laura needed that, W. You have to be capped with just Holy Shield.
I don't know if that's even possible.
means you definitely have a 72% avoidance. Can you get a avoidance cap with just Holy
Shield? It is 72? In classic it was you wanted a avoidance cap with a readout and Holy Shield,
You needed 42.4, which I'm like a little above that.
But I don't know if it's different in TBC where you need to get it with just with Holy
Shield.
I mean, that's pretty crazy.
It's not hard with Liberum.
Yeah, the Liberum gives like 5% itself, I guess.
But I won't be able to get that till Heroic's.
That'll be the first thing I buy is that Liberum, definitely.
Yeah, 102.4, that's right.
That's why 42.4 plus 30 plus 30 is what it was in Classic.
But I guess in TBC you don't count readout.
Redounce never up maybe
You have 76.9 right now Wow
Actually, let's see with all this stuff on I guess I'm at 52 right now and that's without
the boots or the Libra so I guess we're getting close.
of righteousness yeah we want those bad dude that's botanica oh that's from
heroic though okay
here at 96 with holy shield in your poly, okay.
they drop on normal as well. They do indeed drop on normal. It would be nice to have those
over these green ones, that's for sure. Get two more sockets as well. I mean it would
be nice to get the righteousness shoulders and chest. That two set would be amazing as
well. 15% less mana on consecration kind of farms. You playing the sync build? Yeah. Trying
out how it feels with no adventures. It feels okay.
of
I have no friends big crats big crats. I
Don't remember it being this long I do I
Definitely do
Playsticks forever
You to eat the previous boots I item restored them so we should be good now
and
you so play me and I do plan to play yeah
you think you'll do any arena on this tune up OK yes I yes I plan to
So I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do any battlegrounds at all to get a PvP set
Which means if I don't have a PvP set, it's like
It's kind of troll, you know what I'm saying
Now you need to like expand battlegrounds for PvP stuff my chirping
5 cents from rep. Isn't there better stuff from Battlegrounds?
Or am I trippin? Like for off pieces like rings, trinkets? Yeah.
I remember farming at last TBC. That's all I know. On my mage.
Oh, ow. Ow. Aynus, you are hitting very hard.
That's a stone shield and adamantite figurine.
I popped everything here that's a that's a stone shield and an adamantite figurine
yeah there we go walking into
very nice
very very nice
champions just a weird elf dude
Okay, so I think we go back to turn the quest in.
Oh, it's over here.
Okay.
And...
Kara's Zanath Toonman complete?
Well, not quite yet.
I think we just run it back to him though.
Okay, so we return to CADGAR, and then from there, we just kind of run back, I think,
to just a bunch of turn-ins, I think.
Okay, but while we're here, we should run out and do it again, I think, because we need,
I think, two more runs for Riviered, something like that.
You can't catch a break on gear today?
Dude, yeah, we haven't had a single drop yet, but it's fine.
Actually, we did get this ring, the ring of the Silverhand and Steam Vaults.
Oh, there's this quest turning too.
Stodge and Shield Block, I think kind of sucks.
I think I'm going to turn this in real quick.
Oh, someone had to go.
Yo, Archimea had to go.
Yo, Gigi's Archimea.
Thanks for coming, man.
of the
C. Gaby e. S. M.
is previous does not suck as no staff on it really
She got 8800. Holy crap, you guys weren't kidding. Wow. Straight up 88 in the reps.
Yeah, thanks Laura.
It's pre-biss for avoidance.
Wow, yeah, it gets like 3%. Alright.
I might need to put that on for like, something.
Um, I guess we need to run out to the, to the meeting zone to summon a new healer.
I can summon here. Yeah, we have a lock. Um, all right. Any, any healers need black morris?
We need, I think I'm going to do two more runs. I'm at 8650. I need 12,000 for the sword. And then
And then we replace Thunderfury, oh my gosh.
We have a shaman that says Invite.
Let's do it man, let's do it.
Guys no matter how I say Morris, if it's Morris it's wrong, if it's Morris it's wrong, if
it's Morris it's wrong, if it's Morris it's wrong.
I don't know.
we can do nothing we can do
Laura does any other DPS player need BM
Laura says they can sit out like Laura says will do it but also
sit out either way
Cold snacks needs a run for Exalted.
Let's get Cold Snacks.
Cold Snacks gave us the portal.
All right.
Yo, Gigi's, Laura.
Same.
Dude H, you want out?
Cause we have another rogue that'll come too.
Thanks for the runs, Laura.
Thanks for coming, yeah.
Oh, okay, no, we're good. We're full now.
Uh, we need our shaman ran and we need a clicker to summon mage.
I don't know if I even reset the dungeon.
Cool.
Let's see how luck in our healer is.
Do you guys think I should put on tanky gear for this?
Those bosses hit hard.
I don't know if I need the extra threat.
I might just put on tanky gear for this.
Like that last boss almost killed me.
Not trying to wipe on that last boss.
I need one sec.
Same, BRB two men's.
All right, beer back two minutes, guys.
These are the final moments of Thunder Fury.
Two more dungeon runs, and it's gone.
Oh, gosh.
Beer back.
All right, back, ready, locked, loaded, it is time, it is time, it is time, I'm getting
the keepers of timer feared sword instead of thunder fury and uh we're like two runs off
revered so this is the final moments of thunder fury man final moments it's very very sad
like three or four more runs really? 2k, I need 3350 rep. Is that really three or four more runs?
However much the map adds out to you, I thought it would be like two more. It's three.
The time has come.
1100 per run. Oh no. I might need the end of the third run. Won't actually give it to
You're gonna be 50 rep off, no shot.
We'll see how it adds up.
See what happens.
Story show, thanks for the sub.
Blank hour yo, yo, it's good
It's 1100 to 1200 approximately so you could get lucky
Interesting I wonder what the like how it ranges
Yeah we'll see what happens we need one of them to give us 1150
is
the sort of things all said, I think it's
And those legs are cracked as well.
If you get more RAP, you can leave the portal longer since more mobs would spawn.
Let me check if you get rep for this little one
No, you only get rep for the big ones all my macros are in discourse just start attack man. You know what I'm Nick. I was going dude
Good luck with your runs. Thanks, Gosmin. Sorry you finally figured out how to say the name of the Dungeon.
All I figured out was no matter how I say it, someone's going to be mad. So I stopped trying.
Now we just go with BM. Rich Rad, 10 gifted cells. Thank you very much, man. Appreciate you. You're welcome, dude.
Welcome in guys, enjoy not watching ads.
Kara attuned hot?
Dude we're Kara attuned pretty much, we just have to turn the quest in but yeah, Kara attuned
dude.
Roomed out completely. I'm down
Longbow again nice
Carousel got it. What server do I play on dream site?
I guess the difference is we have heroics versus just normals and I guess yeah her oaks
are pretty cool. Why did I play PvP realm? The Doomhowel characters that we were playing
hardcore on could only transfer to Dream. That's why we went to Dream. We basically did it to
save myself 60 bucks and to save thousands of other people 60 bucks that wanted to play.
So yeah.
Pika said you get 10% XP more for being on a PvE realm.
I mean, if you're dead as much as Pika Buu, it's probably more like 30% or 40% more experience.
Yeah.
Good night.
Yeah, sleep well, Cosmon.
If you need to replace Thunderfier, you need to spell damage other than warrior.
Yeah, you need a lot of spell damage, man.
Bro, there should be like an I'm Ready checkbox.
I'm ready.
Are you ready for this?
All my macros are in discord. I'm not using too many of them though, but I put them in there like a day ago.
You need spell hit too, that's probably why the Revere of Swords probably pre-rated this.
The Honor Hold epic one is probably a bit better, even though it doesn't have spell power.
I would guess though, but hey man, yeah, this one's easier to get because it's only Revere and it has hit on it
and it's 1.8 speed and it has stamina on end. So this is a good one to get.
Dude, the Pally Mountain costing mana is so troll. Imagine using the Pally Mountain here,
you would just be constantly boom.
the
the lower city one is the best
lower city
, no man
B we goes wrong.
I mean all of them are so close. I feel like it doesn't matter which one you get. There's like five different options
Or probably like six or seven really there's a lot, but this one is like the easiest to get I think so we're just gonna go with this one
Bro, I just realized once I change all my gear out, I'm gonna have way more mana problems because I'm gonna lose like a
100 intellect
Nice
I'm also not gonna get hit as much so I'm gonna even have more mana problems
You also do heroics, so you'll take more damage too.
True, yeah, it's got like a life tap or like a mana tap.
Oh yeah, I should play with a shadow priest, that's what we should do, yeah.
So my avoidance is 106 with readout and holy shield.
And if I need to get it with just Holy Shield...
Is this heroic now we're doing normal once you best choose common the feral feral rogue
is pretty good. Any drops I didn't hear mainly just the wrap I guess actually only just the
the wrap, yeah.
Because the last boss drops legs,
but I actually don't want these legs
because I'm gonna get the rep legs,
which I think are better.
Although these ones have intellect and MP5 and more damage,
but the rep legs are insane.
Is this a boss fight?
Yeah, that was a boss fight.
That boss is super easy.
The last boss hits me hard, I might swap to my tank staff for the last boss.
Get rep legs and force out of the rest. Yeah, that would be good.
Last boss holo ankle. Thanks for the two one seven.
bro, hold snacks is gear is absolutely disgusting
Yo!
I hear some money, friend!
What's up?
57 stamina triple socket yo tanks out there you guys always just go 12 stamina gems no
matter what pretty much just plus 12 stem across the board right now pretty much yeah
Okay.
Defense stamina or spells, powerspray now, defense plus stamina.
Okay.
Let's move.
I use some to help with 490 camp, but 12 stamina is bis, okay.
might need to gem like one thing to get more defense because I think I might be
like 480 ish one more thing might be nice yeah I saw the armor bug thing I
think they're fixing it on reset which is nice
What is the bug?
Sunder Armor 1 stack was taking away all of the armor, not just a percentage apparently.
I guess they're fixing it
Yeah, down to 500 armor, whatever, yeah.
See your armor.
Yeah, I don't know man. The more I play Pali, it feels like my mana problems are solved
if I stop hitting my keybinds. My mana problems are solved if I don't holy shield. My mana
problems are solved if I don't use consecration on cooldown. My mana problems are solved if
if I kind of just auto-attack, you know?
Okay.
This boss hits hard.
Let's lust up.
Yeah, let's lust here.
This guy slams.
We have some really good deeps though, so.
As long as I don't get one shot.
Nice.
Nice dude, ColdSnacks is doing 2k DPS, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast.
Beautiful.
Lottro's shifting sword.
And dude, all this row glute.
Handgrip of assassination.
Wow.
the
last run was a shrink it as well if you are a rookie to be fully pissed out
So we need 2,124 rep.
I think two more runs, depending on some RNG.
I'll do it for us.
Um,
see we're waiting for the warlock to leave.
Still waiting on Amelia.
a
that's go to ride
, play a pilot would be proud to get into the options are kind of level of interest rate
But I feel like it's like for heroic groups people are just so such like metagamers these days
Are people gonna invite rats to heroics if you have a group of friends, you're fine
But if you're just plugging our plugs gonna invite rats
Don't lie to him
might be might be harder to find a group is a it's a pug rat
I mean people are saying like just don't be a bad rat. They're actually really good
It's less about that and more about like people's perceptions of rat
I feel like people just want like the meta classes and that's it these days
Yeah, no, non meta stuff can work completely fine.
Just perceptions. That's literally it.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind playing with a Shadow Priest. Get a little bit of mana back.
of
in between like or like after the bosses because this part actually goes fast the
part that takes a long time is once you kill a boss you have to wait like two
minutes your ideal group would be probably mage lock shadow priests
rest their shaman that sounds awesome yeah I get the shadow priests for the
mana pack you have a nice big spell cleave that'd be sick you have the mage
for like Paulie's.
Okay we're under 2k rep, tour of fear guys.
Under 2k rep.
Ouch.
Mantle of three terrors.
there we go nice I think that's what Emilia needed
oh wait maybe not no Emilia needs the hell I'll never mind
this thing
I hate the min-maxing. Yeah, I mean, I think it's just a product of people are older, people
have less time to game, and people don't want to wipe, and the information is there telling
people that these are the highest performing classes. So people then learn if I play with
the highest performing classes, there's a lower chance I'll wipe, which means I can actually
complete the heroic I want to do for the day in my 45 minutes a day or hour a day
or two hours a day that I can play the game it makes sense logically the
result of it sucks the game becomes meta but like I understand the thought
process behind it in the macro right like it makes sense it just kind of sucks
same thing happens on like retailer whatever even when it's like 1% damage
No, I'm enchanting and engineering.
I don't get invited to groups because I play a warrior tank.
Really?
no matter what tank you are you should not have a problem finding groups maybe I'm trolling
and like no matter what tank it's like people need tanks dude
both of those people migrant what the mage says I only want to run with Pally's law and
then the shaman says no people hold out for Pally tanks is that true where people really
out there holding out for Pally's wait that actually makes me feel way better as a paladin
I never knew that.
I thought, I thought warriors would probably be better if anything.
Warrior tank isn't that good in heroics. Why?
Don't they have more mitigation?
What makes that like, why would you not want another warrior?
Pally's a better threat too.
Koongan says pallet and tanks aren't even viable.
I mean, I trust Koongan.
Pally is the best threat. Interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder what makes Pally
threats so good in classic when or in TBC when in classic it's like the complete opposite
the threat is terrible.
Just AOE.
Best AOE threat I see.
One more run after this guys and we're revered.
One more run.
Which heroic when we hit revered?
I guess ramps maybe but we'll see we'll see how the gear looks like we're gonna need to
hit a beard by the legs and chant them get the weapon and chant that and then we'll kind
of like assess the gear situation if we think we can get into a heroic it would maybe be
ramps if not then maybe we do a you know whatever else
and I would like like a new belt and like a new shoulder and like a new chest
like these greens are brutal dude
I just figured out how to push things back as a tank.
If you go inside of a mob, but not past it,
and then wait, the mob gets pushed back.
I mean, I did that before,
but I didn't actually understand why it was happening
until just now.
So if you go too far, the mob will flip around.
But if you go like right in front of the mob,
but not to the halfway point and wait, it will get pushed.
You did it in the next?
Yeah, but I was kind of confused.
I think I just figured out why that's actually working.
You have to go just far enough.
If you go too far, the mob will flip.
You have to push in, but not go past.
Very interesting.
Some good tanking tech there.
So this part, I think Blizzard could make it.
I don't know the downtime here.
It feels like it's about two to three minutes.
I think this could be like a 30 second downtime.
I don't think this needs to be like two or three minute timer.
It's good for a Nixie,
it's probably good for like a lot of fights.
Is there any computers that can play WoWs under 100?
We have the StarForge PC link.
I don't know if they have any under 600,
but potentially, I'm linking the chat here.
is
just waiting on the respawn
waiting on the respawn
and not quite 600
not quite
RxP code, we got you in the chat.
actually super easy. It's one mob that you kill 18 times, or I guess 15 times, so there's three bosses.
Dungeon is complete. Easy mode.
How is BM on heroic?
Easy. It seems like it would be easy.
I mean easy relative to other heroics I guess.
So watch I can push this mob back like that and then wait here it's gonna get pushed back.
Nope okay I lost aggro that's why okay.
That timekeeper is tanky dude.
That guy's the real main tank.
We're 1200 rep away.
We're so close guys.
They're so close.
The problem is when DPS is low and portals start to overrun you.
On heroic?
Okay.
29 minutes left on stream.
You ain't gonna finish?
Bro, it's already 412.
12. Sheesh.
What's after this rep run? Bile the stuff and enchant it up and see how close we are to heroics.
Or if we're at the point of heroics.
Yo, Imagination, thanks for the prompt.
I think the rep is going to work out.
Maybe it's because I'm a human and I get a bit more.
So we're 1,000 rep away, like 1,030 rep away.
We sold the boss skill.
So it should be under 1,000.
So we should be fine.
We lost here.
Yeah, nice lost.
Don't know if that great Earth he's gonna oh it taunts on the frenzy, huh?
Sandbrush I don't know if that creeps our whole raid or not I taunted on it there we go.
Oh nice that's what our warlock needed let's go more rogue stuff dude three items
there not bad so we only need 900 more rep it might be because I'm human that's
why
900 rep off one run if you guys want to slam it
and
the final run of thunder fury guys
the final run of thunder fury after this next run begin to appear to me replace it
so sadge
were getting 130 spell power though
Did you just off tank for that stone elemental totem?
Kind of, yes.
Is there really more threat than Thunderfury?
Uh, our shaman says he needs help.
Got him.
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely 130 spell powers, definitely more threat than Thunderfury.
And I've been saying this over the last like day or so, I don't know exactly how much.
Spell power.
You need for it to be worth it, but I think it's like around a hundred spell power for
it to be worth around a hundred.
Oh my guy already has the enchant.
Nice dude.
Nice.
Thunderfury piss in midnight, I wish.
The time has come!
We just did this, Mithief!
We just did this!
And your form would be released upon this ripe, unsuspecting world.
I don't know why my Pali power does not work in combat ever.
I feel like other people say it does, but can't find the setting, don't know what's happening.
Devotion Aura? I think I was supposed to play with Sanctity Aura even in Heroics, which
is crazy. If I'm playing with this build at least, I might test out the other build in
Heroics if I'm feeling like I'm just too squish. The other build I can get a little bit armor.
I'm trying both today they both seem similar
Oh mob got through guys
How do you pull with this build you either body pull judgment pull nade pull or you have someone else pull for you
But yeah a lot of the time you just body pull run in judgment something
refresh seal
Consecration a we go again
Swap targets a lot for threat
Kidney shot from behind, what a monster.
Do-do-do-do-do.
I like how it works in combat if you right-click the individual player interesting you have
to be like very specific with it.
Oh yeah, it works when I do it here, but not here.
Hey, what up, Lycan?
and
yet the effort is
Healers would probably want plus healing.
Damage probably wants plus damage.
Who uses that?
Druid?
More like a moonkin?
You probably want like plus damage, right?
No one?
I feel like no one's actually using this weapon ever.
That's worse than the molten core ring?
Yeah.
Throw a little disenchant there.
OK.
We are half a bar from being keepers of time of your hold.
Can Thunder Fury be disenchanted? It cannot. I've already tried. Can't do it, man. Can't do it.
So I think all in all, when I put on the new weapon and I swap out all this gear, my defense is going to be much higher.
My stamina is gonna be much higher. My spell damage should also be higher.
My damage, like my overall damage should be higher. Everything should be higher.
Should we tank here and do more damage and do more threat.
The negative is I lose a ton of intellect.
Like I lose a ton of intellect.
And also the negative is I lose the Thunderfury proc,
which slows attack speeds by 20% on AoE.
which is a lot. At least a Thunderfury proc and a lot of intellect, but I'm gaining tankiness
and damage. And aura. I'm losing a lot of aura. The most amount of aura I've ever lost.
It's actually gonna be brutal. I'm gonna swap full of Ventures Thunderfury. Oh yeah, it's
It's going to be rough.
How are people even going to know you have Thunderfury?
I don't know.
I might just have to remind them, message them here and there.
You might not even get groups anymore.
I know.
It's going to feel weird.
We're going to be running out of the blue weapon on.
your name to former Thunderfury main tank.
Oh my god.
Do you have to be attuned to enter Karazhan, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
You can do the attunement when you're like level 69 until the architras part if you want.
Get started at like 69 and a half or like 69 and a little bit.
That's what I did.
Rage are out on the 19th.
So we'll see how that goes, it's a Thursday, Thursday afternoon.
I wonder how long that first Karazhan is going to take to clear.
And then Kruals and Maggs after that.
I wonder if it's going to be like a six hour Kara, 45 minutes.
No, I meant our first Kara.
Viewer pug.
No look ups, fully blind.
Oh you won't clear it?
Dude what?
Two to three hours tops.
Bum bum bum bum bum
Oh, we're gonna knock that push him forward
And it's definitely hard to push like a small dragon like this forward without flipping him around
So we only need 80 more wrap
We could probably leave before the last boss if no one needs any of this
Does anyone need last boss here
Is this heroic I know we're doing normal and in Dungeon Rep true
Let's do it!
still wearing the 60 year dude this is our final moments in the 60 year the
final moments if you're just tuning in dude we're replacing everything
momentarily the only 60 year we're gonna have on is face of death stylings and
and Angelistas. This will be the final three pieces that remain. Everything else is gone,
including Thunderfury.
You're holding out of the nuke here. I mean, I have all the gear here. It's just not better
until we replace it all at once. It's kind of awkward.
Since I have the 5 set, I do think I'm going to feel way tankier.
I'm going to gain so much defense, block, health...
Everything.
Extended character stats is yet on.
guys were revered keepers of time revered there it is now we just have to go by the
The legs, the heroic key, and the weapon.
There it is.
Two more portals open.
I definitely can't re-buff in combat like that.
It's actually kind of nice to know.
We're completely oomed out here.
Send down for a quick sip.
Did I ever retrieve the boots from the email?
I did.
Yeah, they're in my mail right now.
Between a couple sockets and those,
I think we're gonna be defense capped.
Our avoidance though might still be a little low.
So I might need Anthor moves tier for the avoidance.
Defense cap 490.
485 technically for heroics and 490 for raids.
We got lost up to
The final kill of Thunderfury is A&S.
5 Thunder Fury. Goodbye. That's it. It's the final mob Thunder Fury will ever kill. Probably.
So sad. All right, where is the vendor for keepers of time?
Feel like it's in chat. Or is it is it outside? Is it outside? Not yet. My
Let's go grab. Let's go replace it.
It's in caverns. Okay.
Let's go replace it guys. Let's go replace it.
Let's go replace it, man.
Vendor fury. Oh gosh.
of the
We got to bank it up. I was thinking of just leaving it in the bags. It's just like too
too sad almost to go in the pink.
Pull it, vendor or disenchant?
We're not vendering it or disenchanting it, no way.
No way.
Key of time, unlocks for our difficulty, got it.
20 frost resist.
16 defense and 17 dodge to a head.
Ooh, oh that's 85 gold, it's actually pretty decent though.
blade okay that's our replacement and time wardens leggings that is a lot of
stamina oh oh
22 a rezil six damage I actually don't even know if I like that better than
this. This is 29 damage, 21 defense. No, I think this is better. That's the honor set.
Yeah. I think my, I think, I think this chest is straight up better. I don't think that
chest is even worth it. I gained three sockets, but I'm losing defense and spell damage. I
like it. Seeing if there's anything else we want to buy here.
Minds look at the Inchant. I'm trying to think if I buy a cliff of the Defender.
I think technically I want the Spell Damage one,
but the defense and dodge might be really nice for a while.
Buy the key for Heroics, got it.
three sockets is better than defense you guys think I should buy that chest even though
I'm losing defense and spell power no no no I mean I don't think it's worth it either
I'm thinking if I should buy this clip for the defender 85 gold for defense and dodge
I think I might, that might help out in Heroics, yeah got it all right guys get
ready for the biggest loss and drip of all time main tank pobs companion what
you'll leave me alone man pedal feet you'll leave me alone dude this is my
moment what okay fine
hey guys main tank paw here
A healer says I gotta run now. Oh gosh. Alright, the group is falling apart. Oh my goodness.
Let's at least hide the helmet. Oh gosh, that's bad.
Oh god, okay, hide the helmet. That helps a little.
I mean, the tabard helps and the shield is still helping and the sword doesn't look that bad actually.
The shoulders look awful. Gosh, I need new shoulders.
Let's get this thing enchanted.
Dude cold cold snacks, where's the portal cold portal, okay, okay, you know I heard this up let's just earth. Let's earth
What's earth out?
Yeah, the sword the sword is not a bad-looking sword
Minus 10,000 aura
True
Lift for the defender let's put that on
We have a lot of like different item sets we can work with. We just got those boots.
We need minor speed increase. Oh my gosh guys, adventures in Thunderfury. Oh my gosh,
we just took it all off man. Wow.
All right our defense is 489
Guys our defense is
489
Wow, we're there dude, we only need 45 for heroics technically
My avoidance is a little low so I could use Anthormu's tier instead of I don't know if
I should drop Angelistas or Ring of the Silverhand.
I think Angelistas has to go.
So my avoidance is 57 with Holy Shield my avoidance is 86.
That's definitely a bit low.
My defense is perfect.
Defense 490 baby.
My avoidance is a little low.
I need like a new chest, shoulder, belt, bracer.
That's way low.
Yeah, that's pretty low.
I have three sockets to work with and in chance.
Yeah, Wubby.
Do you have boot chest chance, too?
I can tip, of course.
You need Libram from Badge Vendor, then you go to 100.
The Libram gives me like 5%, right?
How much does that lip rum actually give me?
It's 5%
And I'm at 56 right now
I mean, I need 50, dude, I need so much more
What enchants do I need? Actually, I don't even know, let's see what we need
I need plus 6 Allstatt's chest, plus 12 stamina boots
And then I need 40 spell damage to weapon
of
that much of my avoidance is 57. And why is that so low
I guess 12 agility cloak, too.
Dude, we'll be with a 280% legendary.
Oh, this is a sad moment.
Goodbye, Avengers set.
Oh!
I'm keeping Thunder Fury on me, man, right there.
You're not going anywhere
Holy shield bro, yeah, yeah, I need to be one of 2.4 guys
Don't think I'm using either of those
So, let's see, he can do all of the enchants and I have all the mats.
I'm missing primal air.
For spell power I need eight large prismatic shards and eight greater planar.
And then for chest stats it's four more of these and then four arcane dust and then four
greater planar.
Man I should level my enchanting and level it myself because now I'm using my mats but
Ah screw it.
I don't want to level enchanting all the way up right now, I'll do that later, right?
I'll probably do it later.
I probably should level my own enchanting right now, but that's just like a lot.
I don't know if I gave him the mats for that one yet, here let's do this one.
I don't know if he has 12 stamina to boots.
Blade of the Archmage Holder.
Okay, so primal air, need primal air.
Oh, this priestess, he can do boots.
I'm assuming Wubby don't have boots, I think I have someone else that can do it.
What's my HP?
have it shown. I don't even know my HP, which I probably should look at it.
Arcane dust times 12 I have mats right here
Thanks, bro
Okay, so triple socket on legs.
I technically need more avoidance.
You guys think I still go triple stamina or should I like socket weird to try to get more
avoidance?
Straightful Sam anyway.
You need 10.5k plus for heroics here.
Let's look at the health bar.
What are we even at?
We're at 10.5k with stamina from Priest.
Without stamina from Priest we're at 9.8k.
9.8k on buffed.
On king, no kings either.
With self buffs I'm at 10.3k self buffed.
If we get a priest, we can get closer to 12, I think.
A little low, a little low.
I have 259 bonus damage.
Oh, I'm going to get three.
three more of these though. Dude, oh my gosh. Alright guys, it's going to be a some type
of situation here. Definitely something. Okay, what are we at now?
We're at 10.2k on buffed
self buffed we're at
10 almost 11k self buffed with a priest we go a little over 12th, right?
It's not terrible. It's not that bad
We also have 490 defense and 57% avoidance
So what's my worst thing right now?
Okay he bought the primal air so we're just gonna enchant this thing. Kind of a
waste of
belt and chest
yeah yeah yeah i think we need to replace that
asap
i think you're eating the colossus nice wubby
so troll
wow the worst thing you need is shoulders because negative drip
That's actually real and true.
Okay, so...
I mean, we could do a lot of different things right now.
I think the...
Thing that would make the most sense is to continue rep farming.
Because I need the rep to unlock Heroics anyway.
We need probably the consortium rep, so we could do like Potanica.
For the shoulders the tannica shoulders gives us two more sockets hundred more armor
More defense
right like
It's not much more trip though. Oh that shita rep. Oh, I still need shita rep too
Let's see what else I could do more steam vault because I need scenario and expedition
rep for the breastplate of righteous that's another option trip we gain triple sockets
stamina armor we actually lose a little defense and spell power but I don't know
you also need the cloak from steam vaults devil shard cape is previous yeah
steam vaults is a decent dungeon to spam right now we need the rep we need the
chest and we need the cloak that two sets nice yeah we don't even have one
piece of it yet. I kind of want to test this out maybe maybe we send the seam
vaults. I do think this is gonna be pretty sick though. I just got so much
more tank like so much tankier I should be like a brick wall now man.
Enchant your legs. Yeah, good coms. I probably will keep these for a while.
I
Spell thread
By a primal air we already bought it what shield is that face of death
Is it runic spell thread what's the what's the spell thread
Runic is 300 gold mystic is 100. I think I just go mystic
I think we just go mystic.
Why short yourself?
And we're down to our last 900 gold and we have a lot more to buy.
Potions for you.
Yo legendary.
Thank you Power Ranger.
Definitely will use up some pots.
Oh bro there's 20 spell damage to gloves.
Wabi, do you have plus 20 spell damage gloves?
That's insane!
I mean, that's gotta be worth it, right?
It's not a cheap enchant, though.
Oh!
Six primal manas.
I have the other stuff.
Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna do these gloves.
I don't know if we're doing those gloves. Okay. And then I'm looking if there's any other enchants.
I could do the ZG shoulder enchant, I think, but my um...
I'm not going to do green shoulders enchants. I can do 12 defense to bracers, but these are also
green bracers. I think I'm going to replace these. And at one inside level, my own enchanting,
I can get double 12 spell damage to rings, but I don't want to do that yet
Don't need the lip room. Okay. I think we're good. I think we're in a good spot
Think we're in a good spot armor kits in the meantime. I
Actually think I had some armor kits somewhere
Yeah, not hide armor kits, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna grab this
Bro, I cannot believe how much aura we lost today.
This is crazy.
And we're actually way stronger too now.
Wait, what is this?
Chest, legs, hands, feet.
Guess we just stood on the hands.
See you later.
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.
Alright guys should we run a super fast steam vaults?
See if we can get lucky with some drops and just test out the nuke here.
I think we do.
You can get 15 spell power to shoulders for 22 gold.
Are you talking about the ZG1, Adam?
Wait, 15 spell power to shoulder?
Are you talking about the ZG engine?
Oh, Aldor.
What do you need Aldor rep to?
I'm only friendly right now.
You'll need honored.
Hmm, I can get honored pretty easy, I think I
Have three fellow Romans in my bag in my bank. I
Have mark of Sargeras as well 19 of them
You want 84% mitt for pre-mitt, pre-biss dude my avoidance 57 it's definitely still a bit low
Think I might grab like
Think I might grab like a couple fill armaments the liberal I can't get till heroics
I think that'll be enough rep, hopefully.
No, I just missed it.
I see the road warrior nerve. Yeah, I did.
What happened to Thunderfury? I know, man. I know. I know. It's brutal. Oh, I never
turned my kerosene attunement in. I forgot about that.
to arch made alters outside of kerosene wait so am i attuned or do i have to go back
all right i have to technically go back and then we're attuned but we're basically done
can't believe it dude we replaced all of our stuff man
look at me gosh I'm weak dude I'm actually stronger but I just feel so
weak 490 defense though it's got to be something Wow
My spell hit is non-existent basically I get 1% from my 8 rating from the weapon but
besides that nonexistent dude
they were honored
Oh wow, that actually wasn't too bad at all.
What can I get from Revered?
Huh, it's not a bad chess piece.
It's not great either, but definitely not bad.
What do I get from Exalted?
Better enchant...
Okay.
What's the attune out on?
It's called attune.
Where do I buy the shoulder and shant from again?
My brain is...
It's by the bank, right?
Okay.
Yo, disperse, I hope we're getting something good coming up soon, we'll see.
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum
Okay, right here
15 spell damage or 13 times definitely spell damage for me
And I'll just buy another I'm like we're gonna replace their shoulders like ASAP
Pally viable. Pally's insane. Yeah. Pally's really good.
All right. Um, does anyone want to run a super fast steam vaults?
Send me a whisper.
Like steam vault speed run baby.
I kind of want to just test out this new stuff.
Heroic? No, regular, regular, regular. I don't have the rep yet. I just got Drakefist Hammer,
down to go Fury Warrior. Big Warlock DPS for Cleave. If Warlock, Warrior, Polly, we need
like a healer and uh I'll heal it shaman from yesterday okay got it shaman lock warrior
pally we need like one more big deeps hunter big nice alright guys let's go test it all
Let's go test it all. How does it feel?
Warrior's gonna need on the cloak. I think it's a tank cloak, isn't it? Or is it a DPS?
Dodge defense block should be good
Get any gear today we've had one piece of gear drop
the ring of Silverhand. We bought the Felsteel helm and the Felsteel
gloves from the auction house. We used the waist, shoulders, chest, and bracers
from questing. We got Bogstrak scale cloakbook leveling. We got Mark of Reven
there from a quest. We got Continuum Blade from Reveread. We got Andormu's
tier from a quest we got flush bees from a quest and we got this from revered so
basically we are full questing gear man
oh my gosh
did you pike here at auction house the helm and the gloves are both from the
auction house doesn't need spell power for threat I have spell power on the
weapon now so my overall spell damage is 300 unbuffed so it's actually higher
than it was before so once I buff up I'm gonna be close to 400 so my spell
damage is definitely mighty fine yeah I have enough spell damage for right now
but the goal would be to get more for sure
We're at 10,500 life on buffed.
Which means we can get to like 12k life buffed
and we have 490 defense.
Our avoidance is the only thing that's a bit low.
We're at 57% avoidance.
But I can't really get that much higher until the Librom
and the Librom is from Heroics.
So.
You need 67 without the shield and I think
I think the idea is when I holy shield I go to 102.4
so I'm like 13% off. I'm going to get 5% from the Libra, I'm like 8% off.
So we've seen a lot more gear forever going to get there.
Talons I'm using right now are these ones.
Ooh, ooh.
Not... I mean, you get a meta, but you lose one socket.
Get way more stamina to be lose armor. Defense is a wash. Huh.
Can't tell if that's better or worse than mine.
I have 60% flying speed. Yeah.
My guy carol just got to shrake this hammer, looking good brother.
What shield will replace the next one?
I don't know if any shield replaces face of death, until Kara.
I haven't looked too closely at shields because this one is so darn good.
and I can probably keep stylings and face the death in the car.
Pretty darn good.
I'm curious how tanky I'm going to feel now.
It's just with all of our new gear that we spent all day getting.
Yeah, I don't know how...
I can't stand playing with the health bars, man.
I don't know why.
Dude, it feels so weird not hitting with a Thunderfury, dude.
Feels so weird.
It's just like a little mini sword.
It's a little baby sword, dude.
Dang, this is crazy.
376 bonus damage though. I mean hey, that is definitely not bad
I'm definitely tankier right? It feels like I'm tankier. I
Should talk to my healer. Yo healer. How are we feeling? How are my tankiness levels feeling from your perspective mr. Healer?
Feels like I'm taking like infinitely less damage
he says good now better than yesterday yeah yesterday was yesterday tankiness was
brutal so shatar exalted shield or patches of
chest this one. I mean if I wanted to go hard yeah we would send that shitarg's
alted for sure.
It's gonna be a bubble cancel, just so we don't pull that.
you put oil up again oils better for AOE win fury better for single only 33
badges it would be quick first badges go to the Libram second badges go to the
boots I believe the new Libram is insane and I think the boots are pretty darn
good too. So the third one could maybe go to shield.
Nice Trummer.
Oh hell of a sight are you the warlock from our cleave run to a leveling?
I think he is.
What's up, dude?
Long time no see.
What do you need from Schemevall?
I need the cloak and the...
Is it a chest?
Chest and cloak.
not gonna lie I feel like an actual tank with this gear I feel so much tankier
it's crazy I didn't think I'd build this tanky I feel like I feel bricked up man
This is nuts like I am just I'm a brick wall, dude
This is this is crazy
It's like it's like trying to hit me see what happens, you know sin
Yeah, this is this is tank pop now crap, okay
Okay, double pull double pull lock in lock in
Double is fine. It's don't want a triple
That works actually it's fine
Look at our group 1.5 KTPS up from the lock
10 seconds silence bro does not feel good on the pala
Definitely a noticeable difference. Yeah, very very very very very noticeable difference on the on the gear sets
Insanely noticeable
I'm definitely an actual tank now, but...
As long as we can get another few upgrades before Karis and then we're happy for real
happy how many days do we have Karis out on the 19th it's the 12th they have seven more
days but today's today's already over and I don't play this weekend so we have five
We have four more days, four more actual days.
Four more days to improve this before Kera's in.
Doable.
Kera and Greens, doable man, very doable.
I
Talked to Savics and he says he's gonna level an entire another character
A tune them and be Kara ready
Guys is there any chance he does that I was like what how was that what?
He doesn't need to a tune I guess yeah, but he has to hit 70 and then like get gear
If he's pretty much done with this hunter is he got is he previous on the hunter now
He's done with this hunter. He doesn't do anything else in the hunter, and I guess it kind of could work
Yes, I mean if he's done and he goes rogue tomorrow just that's kind of doable
I feel like my threat is also better somehow, yeah I guess the uh, I guess having nearly
400 spell damage is going to do that.
We'll need more gear for Nife being 100%.
Yeah, I mean, like I said, we have four days.
This was our first day at 70, technically.
So I think our gear will improve substantially over four days.
I hope.
I think he's reset, yeah.
off tank paw for Kara no guys we're
main tanking Kara's hand in four days
from now for sure we just seem to get
a little better gear first it's gonna
shrink it's gonna shrink up seven days
I have four days for me since I don't
play weekend and today's over we did we did the subtraction we have four we have
four days of gaming left before Kara
four business days that's right yeah yeah business in four business days that's
right dude
of
the
one
It still feels so weird not to hit it with a thunder fury.
So it is a dinky little weapon, man.
Who's looting?
Dude, that helm looks so much cooler than ours, man.
But I can't put it on because we're losing armor. We're losing triple socket stamina. We're losing defense
I can't actually wear it.
I can put in the bank as a healer. No one else needs it. I don't know. Yeah, the dungeon recolor looks sick
I mean maybe I get enough defense to where I can put on spell power, but this I don't think that ever be worth the swab
Keep it for Mog and Catta. Okay. Catta Mog then.
Get it for Shat Spec with Thunderfury. True. Did we hit the thingies?
Looks like we did nice
You don't like showing cloak? I usually don't show cloaks. Yeah, no matter what cloak it is
We got to continue on blade man. Keepers of time or a feared weapon
It's not the absolute best in slot
It's probably like the second or third one, but this one just took her a beard the other ones taking salted
And I'd say this one is a pretty darn close with 30 stamina and spell hit this thing is sick
Crats on 70? Thanks dude. Feels nice to be like playing the game now, you know what
I mean,
nice tremor. We'll take that guys. This boss drops two items. What if we get the chest
and a cloak to drop in one run.
Could happen.
Streamer benefits blizzard blizzard.
of
and
lost on cooldown love to see that
Absolutely blasting the meters. Come on chest and cloak blizzard one time
Almost almost guys almost
Whoa, whoa g4 to 500 gold
and four armaments TYG for W that guys that I mean we got big loot off of this
boss let me tell you very profitable to do a steam vaults run very very very
very profitable go to steam vaults right now if you haven't done it yet
wow I would do that again I would honestly do another steam vaults all
All right, that is massive.
Well, chat, the gear is tanky.
The ge-
G-Ford.
Dude!
Guys, we're up big.
We're up big, 1,900 gold now, guys.
We can afford stuff.
Let's go.
Thank you, bro.
Thank you, Ben.
Wow.
All right.
Massive W, Chi Chi's team. Thank you, Chief Ward, legend.
Thank you, thank you.
Guys, why?
Why is everyone in the chat typing an L?
Is that, is it keyboard stock or something?
That's very...
Guys, you need new keyboards. I don't know what's...
Keyboards are really stock or something.
Huh.
All right, I'm going to get over it.
We got a 12 minute, 12 minute right there.
Oh, Elfer love.
Oh, OK, guys, can we get some L's in the chats?
There we go.
Guys, we're up big.
We're up big.
We actually started the day at, I think, about 1,900 gold,
and now we're ending the day at 1,900,
except we spent 1,000 along the way on mainly gems.
Gems and engines.
Elfer love. There we go. I love it. I love it.
Oh, this character.
We can't duel for gold, but maybe we could tank for gold.
Okay, we're getting creative now. JJ, thanks for the twitch prom.
That's what's up in there.
How many pieces that I replaced today everything I replaced I got an entire new set of gear today, but not really
my gear set is from a
Questing most of my stuff is from questing and then we got the revered legs and revered weapon and we got Kara attuned
So tomorrow
Is heroics we have enough gear?
Where we're at like the bottom end of having enough gear for heroics. I think we have enough
But we're like at the big like we're very our gear is very questionable, but like we could probably do it
We could probably do it man
You'll be surprised they're rough I mean my I know they're off
I think my expectation is that like I'm gonna get completely rocked
Defense cap we are defense caps. That's we got we got to defense cap. Yeah
Now we need more
We really only have
Two heroics unlocked
Caverns of time ones and then the honor hold ones. There's the only two. We only have two keys so far
That's five dungeons true true true
All right guys tomorrow heroics plus
steam vaults for that chest and cape and then we want the shoulders from botanica for the
rep and the shoulders. If we can get a new shoulder cloak chest tomorrow.
You're in a very good spot man, very good spot. Guys if you enjoyed the stream of the
follow button, today was legendary. Absolutely legendary. That's our character.
Dude, I feel like I need to change the tabard, man.
Like, go to, like, the tabard of the...
That's what we look like now, guys.
Right there, after the day.
Yeah, let's go change the tabard.
I don't even know if I can put on an epic tabard right now.
Oh, my gosh.
Minus one Thunderfury, minus one entire tier 2.5 set.
Or has gone, but we're way stronger.
We're way tankier
Okay, I think I think it looks a little better. All right, we'll be on tomorrow guys. Thanks for watching. Thanks for supporting. We're out here. Peace
and start you to cry.