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Good morning my friends and happy Tuesday February 17th maintenance day bro what is
happening servers are down man we're up nice and early today locked and dialed ready to
grind we log in servers are down what is going on guys we're like an hour early to
the stream they dialed and this happens blizzard we're gonna need the servers up
stat all right blizzard we're gonna need them up right now please please please
please please we need them up quickly very quickly we need them up fast
Jack good morning. Today's a big day. I think we get the brand new helmet today.
Getting on early on a Tuesday silly goose. Guys normally the Tuesday downtime
isn't too long so I don't know. If it's extended maintenance I don't even know
what we're gonna do. Probably flip my desk over or something. We got to lock it in
dial and get that darn helmet today man. I can't wait. What kind of share am I
It's the Herman Miller air on to fantastic chair
Fantastic
It's two hours instead of one hour. It's brutal guys
Blizzard let us in Blizzard. Come on
Gotta get rolling
CJ thanks for the prime. Good morning
Same same
Yeah, got on early today's time to time to grind and it's just like the servers aren't even up
Check up on mingle. Yes, sir. I need it is our you is live. We're live. What's happening?
Be your Scotch. Thanks for the problem. Good morning, distruder. Kai and Shannon are definitely
both mighty fine. They need to buff mobs with magic defense. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is this
magic slander voodoo? What say you get out of here, brother? Look, this is the way TVC was.
We got to leave it. All right cheese Louise
Any room in the killed for a 45 war? I don't know
There probably is but I'm not online right now. Unfortunately, so can't even check
Is there a new league video for the MMO? I don't think so
Mavette good morning. Jartras. Good morning. Hex. Good evening. Alex. Good morning. McGain
Good morning. Kara. Hi Kara hype guys. I think the plan is we're gonna
going to slam gruel's Thursday, Cara Friday.
I think we're going to flip around the schedule
because the raids don't come out till Thursday night.
So starting Cara Thursday night is probably not a good idea.
So probably Cara Friday, since we have all day.
Thursday night, we'd send a quickie gruel's mags.
I'm thinking that's gotta be the move.
Yeah.
I was also trying to figure out what the best raid comp would be.
I don't know if you guys have any resources,
but I'm thinking 25 people.
We probably want like an Ellie shaman.
We probably want like three Paladins.
We probably want like three shamans, three Pallies.
We probably want like a Hunter.
We need a mage tank.
Like I'm trying to think raid composition wise
of what do we need?
Variety of classes, probably like one or two of everything.
We need some off tanks, right?
like some some druid off tanks because we need the off tank to actually pick up like in gruel's isn't there like five mobs in gruel's
You like mage tank one and like pally tank one and then like fear one and then like have like off tanks for the three others or something
I don't remember
Bullifier things the problem
Am I running any the righteous that shoulders and chest Wow TBC raid composition. Oh, oh cool. I like this
Okay, so yeah, I was thinking we would do something like this, you know, let's let's just mess around with this for a sec. This is fun. I mean the servers are down anyway.
So we have how many groups is 25, right? So we have, we have groups one through five. Okay, so let's go with an enhanced shaman.
common or ret pally.
Else what I want in my group.
I probably a shadow priest, right?
Or a shadow priest raid wide.
Maybe shadow priest is raid wide.
Well, that's the tank mage.
Warlock with imp.
Shadow priest is only party.
Oh, really?
Maybe I don't need a shot of Priest in my party though.
Alright, let's just kind of keep throwing stuff.
We definitely want like an Ellie,
we definitely want like a Resto Shaman.
We probably want like one rogue just
because we feel bad for rogues.
We definitely want to bring in like some hunters.
We definitely want to bring in like
probably like a secondary mage.
I get DPS mage and like the tank mage, right?
Probably want like a Destro-Lock.
And then we probably want like a, like a holy priest.
We need more healers, we need more truids, probably want like a Resto-Truid.
The off tank will probably be a Feral-Truid.
Probably only need two tanks, right?
Or do we need three?
Baha-Kali, thanks for the prime.
Oh yeah, we definitely want like a Moonkin.
Good comms.
Um, and then we definitely want like some warriors
That fury warrior
Probably want like a third tank like a third product off tank just in case
that could like flex to
not prod and then
Okay, is there anything else we actually need besides this obviously we can fill the rest there's there's like what?
that set eight more spots, we can fill the rest of it ever.
But it's anything we actually need besides this.
Like we have the moonkin, we have three shamans.
We need another Pali, like a holy Pali, right?
It's because we want triple buffs and triple auras.
Affliction lock for curse of elements.
Okay, so we have the affliction lock, the duster lock,
the arcane mage, the holy resto,
like this all looks pretty good.
Is there anything else we need?
We have a lot of different specs here,
like one of every spec for a while.
BM Hunter for more damage?
OK, so we'll bring the BM Hunter, the Survival Hunter.
I don't even think I need to enhance my group,
I just realized, because I don't need Winfury.
So we put the enhance in this group.
And then to be honest, the hunters don't need Winfury
either.
So we'd probably put the Survival Hunter in this
group, and the Beast Mastery in this group,
and then the feral would probably be in this group.
And then the prod warrior would be in this group.
So this is like, yeah, that's probably better.
Full enhance, and then that's that.
The shadow priest would probably want to give mana
to the healers, I would guess, so like that.
Yeah, okay, that's looking pretty good, I think.
Moonken, I think, is raid-wide.
What am I looking at?
We're trying to pre-brainstorm
what groules will actually look like.
That ret pal is getting screwed.
The thing about Rhett is like I can actually tank with Sanctity Aura without the Rhett Pally.
But if the Rhett Pally is in my group, I can also tank with Devotion.
Feral's don't benefit from Winfury. Oh true. So the Feral can actually go in like this group, huh?
Or this one, I guess.
So we could use, okay, what else could this Raid comp use if we're trying to min-max dial in?
Poor red give them the win fury. That's so troll guys the the reds for me for the aura man. What are we talking about? Oh
The feral buff is only for the group. Oh
It is oh, this is a cool website. Look at this. You can see the leader of the pack here versus here
You can see what what each one brings to the group. Oh, that's pretty cool
Okay, yeah, so we bring Combat Feral Fury, Prott slash, like there's like an off tank and then enhance like that
That's a pretty good group. I think
No arms warrior buff, okay here look let's let's bring it an arms warrior like the arms warrior can like off tank
tank.
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.
Question mark.
Wait, for gruelz, how many tanks do you need?
Like, you have the mage tank, and then the palli, I'll be on High King Moolgar, or whatever.
And then you like, fear one of the mobs, and you have the feral off tank.
You need 5? No. You need 1? No. It's somewhere between 1 and 5, so you guys are definitely
off somewhere. I feel like you need like 3 tanks. Yeah, I feel like 3 seems fine. So I
could be the main tank, then we have the feral off tank, and then the arms can have a secondary
spec to the off tank. Am I trippin'? You need the archimage and the shadow priest
group. Oh. Maybe the rest of Druid doesn't need to be on the shadow priest group since
they don't oom anyway. I don't know if that's troll. Oh the moon can buff is only party wide?
Of all party members. Oh gosh, how do you do this?
Because the shadow priest should probably be with the healers. You know, maybe we bring two shadow
priests. That seems probably pretty good. And then we have an arcane mage, frost mage,
ellie, shaman, moonken, shadow priests. Yeah, that seems good. Double shadow priest.
The locks kind of get screwed unless we want to bring in...
Here, the frost mage doesn't need the moonken buff since the frost mage is just a tank, right?
And then the affliction lock isn't going to go in the room anyway. Here, yeah, this looks good,
I think there you go. Okay, cool. All right. So what else would we want more of them? We have four extra spots
Vado couple. Thanks for the prime
I think we would want to bring another shaman
At least one more shaman right so we have resto le enhance. I'm trying to think
Is totem of wrath only for the group
I think everything is pretty much group-wide, right?
Because what if I brought an Ellie in my group?
Because I want Totem of Wrath, bro. Is that true?
Actually, I don't care about Totem of Wrath. I want the Totem of...
What do I want? The 100 spell damage. Wrath of Air.
You want the Resto in my group?
I want Wrath of Air.
Resto Druid should be in Tank Group, why?
Is it Tree of Life?
Everyone's saying R Druid and Tank Group usually.
Okay.
And how many healers do we need?
Because right now we only have four healers, by the way.
probably want I don't even know five is good six is really good okay maybe we
bring a second our shaman for my group so I get totems I don't know that's
troll that seems probably pretty good resto true it rest a second rest of
shaman and then we have five healers here so we could bring in one more healer to be safe
we could bring in one disc priest for their just buffs and stuff yeah that probably isn't bad
disc priest holy priest holy palae arsham arsham archerwood that ret palae is a slave lmao
i mean why why else would you roll a ret i mean come on like bro you're there for the buffs like
Like I don't know what to tell you, man.
What are we gonna do, boot out a warrior for a ret?
Like, goodness gracious.
All right.
Dun dun.
I guess the ret does get the Wind Fury from Resto Shaman.
Why not just bring another DPS instead of the disc?
The disc is just for like spread shields and stuff, right?
like, I don't know, I guess we don't need a disc.
It could be like any other healer.
Oh, it's Winfury or Rathivare.
To be honest, we don't need a ret pali.
Since I'm saying to the aura build anyway,
we can just go no ret.
You guys are mad about the ret getting shafted.
Let's just kick them from the raid then.
Let's just do no ret at all.
Is that, are you guys happy now?
Goodness gracious.
Oh, the seal of crusader.
Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.
We need the ret.
Good coms, seal of crusader,
because they give you extra.
Oh yeah, ret also has a better sanctity aura
than I have, right?
Because they have the improved sanctity
and the improved crusader.
Okay, no, we definitely want the ret guys.
We don't want to kick them.
Server list is showing.
Oh, that's nice.
Oh, they deleted Night Slayer.
All right guys, we're down to one realm now.
Everyone's on dream side.
There it is.
No more Night Slayer guys confirmed.
If you're on Night Slayer, you have to reroll dream.
Nice.
All right.
Let's lock it in dial the final two spots then.
We have six healers.
We have four shamans.
We have three pallies.
What else do you think this group needs?
A BM hunter, we have it.
Another hunter, a third hunter.
More locks, more hunters, people are saying.
A second Destro maybe.
Another Moonken.
I think the other, like there's only two spots left.
It could be Flex, right?
It could be Flex depending on what we get.
Like it could be a moonkin. It could easily be another lock
It could easily be
Another shaman right kind of it kind of doesn't matter that much right?
Where's your second tank so the feral druid will be second tank and then the arms warrior that I would bring would be like
like arms warrior would be like, like brought off spec because I think you need three tanks,
right?
boomkin or cat for 5% crit and group four.
Yeah, yeah, that would be kind of nice.
Like a second boomkin here.
One road.
Yeah, we just bring the one road because we feel bad.
I don't really need a shot of priests. I don't think I'm going to oom in single target.
You have too many casters. IMO. Yo, hard reserve on the caster loop, by the way, on
the prop alley. So let's see. Yo, aura. Thanks for the prime.
Okay, let's see, we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine casters to one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight melee.
It's not that bad.
It's not that bad of a spread.
It's eight to nine.
I feel like it's something bad.
Fire mage with the Destro for the buff.
Oh, that's actually...
not a bad idea. The last spot we could bring a fire mage to buff the Destralock.
There's only one Destralock though too, yeah. We could just bring another shaman.
the
quality morning streams.
Like we could just do this.
Resto, Ellie, Resto, Ellie,
enhance.
More, more totems.
Yo, Ozzie, thanks for the prime.
Chinser, thanks for the 2-1.
Law can go and group one for int buff.
Probably a good idea, yeah.
Group 4 Boomi isn't needed.
Yeah, it's like this Moonkin is kind of overkill. It's also only buffing like two people.
This is kind of a flex spot like we could do a mooney we could do another
priest we could do another we could do like another just like Locke could be
another hunter another hunter would be great another BM hunter yeah another
another rogue just could be like kind of a flex spot all right so what do you
guys think of this. I kind of like this. TBC height. Oh, we could bring another
feral druid for group four. That's not a bad idea.
What's the frost mage bringing?
You need a tank for the mob on the right.
What's it called?
Eye, something eye?
The rightmost mob is usually tanked by frost mage, I think, because you need to be tanky.
I guess you don't need to be frost.
You could technically be anything, but Frosted Ice Barrier.
Okay, I think this is like good enough.
This group could have an Enhance, this group could have an Ellie, this group could have
a Feral, like it doesn't, it's not like that big of a deal, but I think like something
like this feels pretty good.
I think having this in my head for Thursday is gonna be nice.
I'll probably start building the group super early too.
So many Fury Warrior haters, sad face.
Oh man.
Which kind of cool is we have like one of every spec almost.
That's pretty sick.
I mean, not completely.
There's some specs we don't have,
But like every spec has some type of utility.
I'd say Rogue is probably the least.
You get improved exposed, but like you want Ferals,
you want Shamans, you want Pallies,
you want Truids, you want Moonkins,
you want Rats, Holt, like it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool.
You only have one melee group.
I mean, we have like equal melee.
Actually, we have more melee.
How many melee do we have now?
One, like physical.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
10, 10 physical to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 casters.
We have more physical in this raid than casters.
Maybe I should bring in more casters.
Too much physical?
Yeah, we might need more casters, guys.
I don't know.
Right with that win fury is a dead slot
Guys, what do you want from me, brother? Rhett needs to be in my group for the aura
What if I okay, what if I don't put the rat in my group?
All right, hold up. Hold up. Hold up. What if we get rid of this hunter?
We put the Rhett over here. We get rid of the feral. We grab a second enhance
And then in my group we have
Doesn't really matter.
We have the Imp buff, we have the Shaman buff, we have the Truid buff.
Um, let's think.
Um...
Rhett needs Winfury? Yeah, so you put the...
Enhance with the Rhett there.
The Frostmage is just a tank anyway.
Get a... a third Shadow Priest?
Bro, I love Shadow Priest, but they're hard to find.
I wouldn't mind if...
A Shadow Priest actually owns in this group because it gives the healers mana and me mana.
But three Shadow Priests is gonna be tough to find, I think.
Three good Shadow Priests.
Could do Frostmage to group one for the extra heals.
The problem with that is...
We're taking on opposite sides of the room.
So I don't know...
The shaman totems are gonna reach both me and the mage. I think it's impossible.
Ah, Night Slayer came back online. Dang it. Alright guys, Night Slayer's still here.
Um...
I mean, this way we do have a shaman in every single group.
So every group gets lust every group gets totems
We have two melee groups. It's just low on casters man. Like we don't have that many casters in here, dude
But a rogue or a warrior in my group, what's a rogue or a warrior doing seven healers lol, I think it's only six
Wait, can I just see?
Yeah, we have six healers, two tanks.
Oh, this is nice.
Seven melee, 10 ranged.
Yeah.
I could, we could drop the disc breeze altogether, but six seems nice.
I don't know. I think I want to do something like this, ideally, but I wouldn't mind there's, like, so many spots that we could swap around.
Um, okay. Secondarily,
I wanted to...
How do I just reset this?
Secondarily, I wanted to come up with a 10-man Karazhan team.
Shmuckle, thanks for the problem.
I promise you that is too many healers so you think five instead of six. I mean, I don't know I think it'd go either way
This calm makes you want to throw up. Wait, isn't this close to like ideal?
Wait, what do you mean this calm makes you want to throw up what's not good here
No, no, no, okay if we want to make this comp better. I feel like it's got to be close. How do we make it better?
Too many rogues. I have one rogue.
Too many rats. I have one rat.
Like, guys, what are you guys talking about?
One or two more hunters, two Lushata priests, and more warlock.
Okay, so you guys are meta slaves. That's what you guys are.
You bring the hunters and the warlocks because they're overperforming.
You meta Andes guys. I'm trying to bring in rogues,
Rets. I'm trying to spread the love, alright?
We're trying to bring in all the different variety of classes
to get a nice balanced raid composition
and you guys are on more craft logs only bringing in the OP classes.
Disgusting. I can't believe it.
You know, it's super new. Thanks for the prom. Appreciate it man.
Bro, you have more Shadow Priest than Hunters? Yeah, Shadow Priest are sick.
Should I be just a sec?
Group 5 is the short bus group? I mean bro, we have combat feral fury arms. It's a melee group.
We have one melee group. We have a cast or tank group healer group. Okay, look, how about this?
What group needs work? I think group 1 is good. I think group 5 is good. I think group 2 is good
I think group 3 is good. I think group 4 is good
Everyone says group 4 needs work
Group 4 and 5.
Okay, so let's take a look at group 4.
We need the Frostmage to tank.
Unless you want to do only one mage in the Arcane Mage tanks, which could work.
Okay, so let's look at group 4 and 5.
How do we make group 4 better?
We have the ret that needs the enhance.
The enhance needs the ret.
And the hunters want the enhance too, I think.
So how is how do you make group 4 better assuming you need the mage to tank you need the rat you need the enhance
You want the hunters how do you how do you make it for any better?
Delete the rat that cuts the rat is for me
Actually, you don't yeah. Yeah, I kind of do want the right kind of you want the rat
Wait a minute, bro, I need the right in my group for improved sync aura sink to the aura
I think. You have the aura yourself, not the improved version. It's 2% more damage for
me bro, that's a big deal. Maybe it's not a big deal. Shadow and Group 1 is just not
good. Shadow, Priest and Group 1 I think does make sense because it's giving our healers
mana and it's giving me mana and it's giving me HPS. I feel like shadow in group one is kind of fine.
Still I don't know what to change. Everything seems kind of locked here.
Group one is mana tied anyway so it's fine. Okay fine. Let's delete the shadow priest then.
Are you guys happy now?
I could move the mage into our group because the mage gets the int buff and the extra healing.
Here's the issue. We're tanking on different sides of the room. The mage is not gonna get the totems
because the totems have to be near me. I don't think this is gonna work. We're too far apart.
We're on different sides of the room, man.
All right, so if we did this, then,
we have Rhett in hands double hunter.
You meta slaves.
I can't believe this.
You guys want a third hunter.
Are you guys happy now?
You have three hunters.
Wait, what about another feral?
Guys what it what it hunters want the crit and the and the rat and the enhance
Yeah, how about that you are you guys a little happier guys we have so many melee bro, this has got to be bad you guys are trolling me
Eight melee
Two on it we have ten we have ten physical
Finally fixed that's good. You guys are you guys are trolling. I think
I think one physical 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 physicals 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 casters you
guys want you in an ideal comic at 7 casters I guess 8 affliction lock 8 casters 10 physical
what is an arms warrior bring I actually don't know the chat said to bring them I don't
what an arms warrior really brings maybe we just bring a second theory he brings
good vibes I want him to off-tank probably that's an off-tank oh you get
four percent physical damage oh that's what it was
Okay, anyway, this is like, we can kind of vibe kinda like this.
Okay, now let's look at a 10 man raid squad.
I'm gonna just ignore the chat for a second and put what I think.
We definitely need me, we definitely need a ret, we definitely need a shadow priest,
we definitely need a rest of shaman, we definitely need an Ellie shaman.
I'm not even looking at chat.
I'm just locking in and dialing.
We definitely need the Arcane Mage.
We definitely need a Desterlock.
We definitely, there's only three,
oh my God, there's only three spots.
Definitely need the Off Tank Feral.
We definitely want a Off Tank Feral.
We don't need two tanks, right?
Okay, let's think about this.
We definitely want a Hunter.
And then we definitely want a
Warrior right
No, where's our healers bro. We have no healers what the heck where's our healers at?
Oh my gosh
Alright hold up. I didn't think about the healer situation. Give me a second. What do you get rid of? I want the rat
I want the shadow
I want the Arcane, I want the Ellie, I want the Death Star, I want the Feral, get rid of
the Warrior.
I don't need that.
Okay, here we go.
Resto Truid.
Resto Truid is also probably in my group, although the Arcane needs to be in the same
group as the Shadow.
So the, okay, Arc, no, we need the Ellie.
Oh gosh, my brain hurts, man.
I want the Ret and my group.
Actually, you know what?
Ret doesn't need to be in my group, because the aura's not that big of a deal.
He just really needs to judge for me.
That priest needs to be with the Arcane Mage.
This could be the melee group with Windfury.
My brain.
Oh gosh.
Okay, hold up.
No.
Um, hold on.
We probably need three healers.
Four-hour Kara Inc.
I would be really impressed if we could clear within four hours.
I was trying to aim for under five.
Why the Ellie shaman? Because we want two shamans, right?
You need three healers. You absolutely need three.
Two healers is fine. Oh gosh.
Takeout ret, that's a troll.
You guys think ret is just too much?
I would like a ret though.
Lust is raid wide, is it?
down. I thought, oh, lust is raid wide, huh? Oh, but it's still nice to have two sets of totems.
Okay, can we all agree group one is looking minted? We, Ellie, Shadow, Archein, Resto, Prop Alley. We
all agree group one is minty. It's group two that needs some work. No. How is group one not
Dialed in perfect guys. We have mana back. We have the arcade mage
We got the arduous for the heels the Ellie for the totems
So good
Mer honestly, I feel like this is fine. I feel like this is a good 10-man squadron right here
It's a little light on the melee. We only have three physical DPS, but there's only ten of us
We only have four casters arcane shadow le deserotes four casters three physical
Wait, no one in this group needs like two-handed web like like strength gear and stuff like just
No warrior
Swap the rest of true it with the desk for a lock. I thought the rest of true is supposed to be in my group for the healing
Pretty sure it is
Tvc hi. Oh, yeah, the desk throw gets screwed without the buff hmm
Someone someone's getting screwed bro bro like no one we can't get all the casters in the LA group
Maybe the Shadow Priest, can't be the Shadow, can't be the Arcane, Arcane and Shadow need
each other, can't be the Resto, can't be the LA, yeah that's gotta be the Death's
Throw.
You don't need a Shadow Priest?
Shadow Priest is really good for Arcane Mage.
Because arcane's go oom shadow gives some mana back and it's good for me
Don't build the group around the tank guys. What do you think this is? Of course, I'm building the group around the main tank like
Maybe we don't okay, how about maybe maybe you're right maybe we don't put the rest or true it in the healing group
We give the desktop more damage
Maybe that is fine
Imagine disenchanting spike blade.
When you guys all be happier if I kick the ret and prod a warrior.
I want the ret dude.
Everyone's way happier that way.
Alright, how does this look?
Honestly, this group looks fire.
I think I would rather have Thorette, but I think this looks really good.
Two blessings is this.
Oh, guys, Thorette gives us more blessings, and a better judge.
Bro, I swear.
I kind of want to raid with a ret dude.
Give double blessings man, we get Kings and Salve.
You guys are telling me the warrior
is gonna outperform Kings?
Bruh.
Just get a Holy Pally?
We could get, we could get a Holy Pally instead of,
oh you're really gonna drop a rest or true it
for Holy Pally though?
Are we really doing that?
Do that?
That's a group comp.
We have the Holy Pally for the second buff.
We have the Fury Warrior for the...what's the Fury there for?
Demo shout?
Wait a minute.
Why do we need a Hunter?
Just kick the Hunter.
Get a second red.
Go like that.
Guys, I'm really, really, really, really trying to make this group work.
But what did I just, what did I just remove?
I think I misclicked something.
What did I just remove on accident?
Oh, I moved the ferrule.
Okay, we need to throw
We did do no hunter and get the rat and the fury or we could bring the hunter
With no rat and remove the rest of true wouldn't get the Pali
I mean this is probably good. This I mean you guys you guys all like this, right?
You guys all like this
I'll either do this or swap the Holy Pally out for a Resto Truid and swap the Fury out
for a Rat.
Honestly, I kind of like this better, but one or the other.
You need kicks.
We have two shamans and a mage and a lock.
It's like kind of a lot of kicks, isn't it?
about sunders it's not my it's not my job I'll tell you that I'm a paladin this
time around guys don't put sunders on me all right that's fine bro we're chilling
oh my gosh cast locks can't kick why not just pull up pull out a fell hunter
guys can we all agree 10 man rating is hard for it to find an optimal group comp
because I at the end of the day you're cutting someone out
okay okay maybe you guys are right we bring the fury warrior for the
thunder clap for the demo and for the kick we kick the rest of true we bring
the Holy Pally. Maybe you guys are right. But when it comes to raid day, and if the
red Pally gets in, then the red Pally gets in, okay? Everyone loves this group.
Bring arms, not fury. Oh, for the damage buff thing, okay.
You're lacking single target healing if you don't bring the Holy Pally. I think
Truids, maybe I'm just a Truid lover. I feel like Truid heals are so good.
Group one is the dream team guys group one is main team baby if you're in group
one with me we're not going down man we've got mana we've got totems we've
gotten lost we've got damage we've got it all in group one except healers but we
don't like that's for group two we have the group two group and then we
have the a team the main squad the group one baby alright whoo it's gonna be
good. Alright. Someone says put the rest of shaman in group one. Like this and then put
an enhance in group two. I mean, we could. I kind of just like this better because we're
like more of a caster dominant group. So we get two in my breath for our casters.
I think this is fine.
You could probably do it either way,
but I feel like I like this a little better.
TBC heighten.
Yo, Jack, thanks for the prom.
Common points, thanks for the prom.
IC, thanks for the prom.
Kara, two in two days, baby, two in five.
What's coming first?
Nice.
Baby, due in five days, what's coming first?
That's what's happening
Is amp not raiding on road? I think amp is raiding on road
But I think ampy and I are doing separate groups because we need more raids for the guild or whatever
You don't need shadow priests with nerfed raids
What's up with all this shadow priests? Hey all these ret Pali haters
Bro I you know what I want to do I want to kick the warrior bringing a ret and a holy Pali triple Pali bucks triple aura, baby
Oh
Holy Trinity, yeah, I swear I swear it's like it's kind of sick
Anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna copy and paste these into the discord or my private
Discord like area so I have these for raid day
So this will be what we kind of aim the 25 man group off of this is what we'll aim the 10 man group off of
Excuse me streamer. You don't have the perfect comp to clear nerf 20 year old raid content. Oh, sorry, sir
All right before things get too at a hand here. I wanted to watch
Where's that mad season video there I think there was a new mad season vid
Oh, yeah. There's a new Metsy Smith. I haven't seen this. I've been waiting to watch this for days.
Halleck, thanks for the prom. Appreciate it.
I saw the new Robfit already. It was very good. Very, very good.
Alright guys, this is the Mad Season video. We've been waiting to watch this for like two or three days and server down time is now.
So this is the moment. World of Warcraft's most crazy and unhinged moments number two.
What's going to be in here? Mr. Mad Season, let's take a look.
I'm a more PG has gained a reputation of being the most intense genre of game and for good
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They're competitive, easily the most time consuming, the most grindy and combined this with the
fact that they never end.
It's not uncommon these days for players to have several years of playtime accumulated
with a substantial portion of their time dedicated to items or rewards that
would leave most rational people mystified of their obsessiveness.
World of Warcraft being a staple of the genre is no different
and today we continue our series of videos covering the most
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Classic World of Warcraft, The Refuge,
the Oasis from the impure, free from the clutches of gameplay
destroying monetization and the greedy corporate shell
of a game that retail has become.
You want a level?
Buy the level boost.
You want gold?
Buy the WoW token.
You want the best gear in the game?
Gladiator?
The super high level item?
Use the gold from the WoW token.
I love MMOs, but you know, I just, I hate the leveling.
I mean, I love the genre, but I hate farming gold.
That's my favorite type of game to play,
but I hate having to find a guild
and having to socialize to really.
The MMO RPG is the only genre.
I feel like Mad Season says this silent part out loud
every time and it's just like,
okay, yeah, true, very true.
And that people love so much
that they'll actually pay any amount of money possible
to not play it.
And one of the things that Classic World of Warcraft was anticipated and touted for was that it was the before times,
the pure early years before the game was monetized in 40 different ways.
Ever since Activision acquired Blizzard in 2008, players have slowly witnessed the game becoming more and more monetized and more and more impactful ways.
It started as just in-game cosmetic pets, we promise, slowly transformed into being able to purchase all forms of character progression, of course,
them the best items and most coveted titles available with the swipe of the credit card.
And someone classic 2019 was announced and players learned that its only monetization
was a subscription fee.
They felt like they were going back to those good old days, back when accomplishments
meant something because they were obtained with time commitment instead of a credit
card.
But as time went on and the game started to get progressively and blatantly infested
with bots, players started to put two and two together and they realized if
If you're such a large supply, there must also be a large demand.
Players of course turn to third party websites to do anything in their power to not play
the video game that they claim to love playing.
Raiders, Rankers, levelers, paying for dungeon boosts, casual players browsing the auction
house, largely in part with Blizzard's lack of agency or interest in enforcing the
terms of service.
RMT was and remains to be rampant in classic World of Warcraft as players were all
too eager to immediately corrupt the last bastion of an even playing field, the intense
demand birth.
So, one of the, I've talked about this on stream before, but one of the problems with
gold buying is that every time someone buys gold, it intensifies the problem and makes
it worse.
So, what I mean by that is if no one bought gold, there would be a lot less inflation,
a lot less gold in the economy.
Say like in a perfect world, there's zero gold selling, zero gold buying, obviously
that can never happen.
But let's just pretend everything would cost way less gold.
So when you do a dungeon, you're just randomly getting gold drops.
You're doing a quest and you get like that 10 gold.
That 10 gold from the quest would go further and buying you raid mats, raid consumes, right?
There's less inflation, things are cheaper, whatever.
Now, say someone then buys gold, right?
One person buying gold doesn't affect much.
But then say your whole guild starts buying all the other guilds on the server start buying gold.
Now the price of everything starts to raise.
Now, you can't really afford to buy these things, like the mats and stuff like that,
without buying gold or farming a crap ton of time.
So everyone that then buys gold makes the problem worse and worse and worse and worse.
So we're at this point where, since everyone's buying gold, everyone needs to buy gold.
And you can't afford things without buying gold because everyone's buying gold, but every
time you swipe, you make the problem worse.
That's kind of where it's at, right?
If we all agree to stop buying gold right now, then the problem gets better for everyone.
The veritable bot army infesting every single corner of the game, and players watched hundreds
in vape leveling zones over on popular farming spots, flyhack teleport to raids, they would
be abused in boost runs where mages would gather up hundreds of mobs in a dungeon to
aoe them all at once. Often this was done with cheating software. They would create
these automatically ran scripts that would perform their routes for them, or just straight
up teleport hack as players who yearn for the good old days of meaningful leveling
and questing. AFK'd at the entrance paying with gold that they bought with the credit
card, essentially purchasing a level boost in all but name. It was particularly rampant
within the raiding community, as with vanilla and its balance being in the wild west, consumables
played a huge role in the end game.
Months of raiding war on many players as they turned towards fighting in order to maintain
the costly upkeep, and not only that, but as time went on and raids became more and
more puggable, gdkp runs would become more and more common.
Short for gold dragon killing points, which makes no sense by the way, and as in these
The raids would be auctioned off in a bidding war between the players and at the end the
pot would be split evenly amongst the raid.
For some it was an interesting way to earn gold while participating in their favorite
activity and for others the pipeline to achieve the best gear in the game by swiping a credit
card just like the retail version of the game culminating with this now infamous
screenshot of a player paying near-gold cap for Gressel which is the best in slot
one-hander for DPS Warriors.
These gdkp runs would soon take over the game, even prompting enough demand for blizzard to
ban them in future reruns, though they're still in the 2019 line of the game and they remain
to be quite dominant.
I don't like gdkps, I've talked about this many times before, I love the idea in theory.
Gold blinds off the table, people either go to a raid and make money or get loot.
Cool win win for everyone, right?
The problem that TDKPs is in practice, it's different than in theory.
In theory, they are great.
In practice, they're terrible.
In practice, what happens is the person that swipes harder gets all the loot, and then
you get gold, but then you go to the next raid and you still can't really get anything
because the person that swipes the hardest gets all the loot.
In practice, I've just never, ever had a good experience, first-hand experience
at least.
So it's always been awful.
In theory, they're fantastic because it doesn't work out that way.
So, the combined efforts of the players themselves and the lack of moderation on Blizzard's part,
one of the things that chased players away from the retail version of the game is now
fully integrated into the culture of what was supposed to be an escape.
With this screenshot serving as a monument that time is an endless circle and all roads
eventually lead to the same place.
in response to that. People will say it's gatekeeping, completely ignoring the fact that it's a multiplayer
game and all progress is relative. Not that you would expect somebody who pays other people to
play 90% of the game for them to understand the genre. But if you really want to talk about
gatekeeping, you haven't seen anything yet. The build-up to Classics Release was one of
the most intense moments in Blizzard community's history, fueled by distrust of the modern
developers. The pre-launch for the 2019 run was dominated by the no changes movement. The raids,
class balance, or lack thereof items, reputations, the pvp system, world buffs. They wanted the
original game as close as humanly possible. Any and everything from blood. I can understand the
no changes movement in 2019. I really can. Like you're frustrated with Blizzard or making retail
into something you don't want it to and you're like those are just give us exactly what we had
don't change anything I get it now seven years later right we're living in the future it's like
okay we played that it's very fun but there are things like small things that could be improved
and more content to be added now that we've done that RuneScape went through the same historical
event in 2013 and now look at um old school today right so it's like yeah I get it I get both
shadows to the classic water to even introducing artificial leg to match
the limited technological infrastructure of the mid-2000s today this crowd has
mellowed out quite a bit especially after the death blow that was delivered
via paid level boosts hold you so by the way but anyone who's active
is going to lead up to the game or recall just how intense it was and anyone
and suggesting any change, no matter how minor it may have been,
were immediately, John Enquartered.
As the majority of the player base believed that
the best thing that Blizzard could do for the game
was to not touch it.
But that's not the unhinged part.
Obviously, one of the things that has changed since 2004
that's outside of Blizzard's and the player's control
is the world surrounding the game.
You can recreate it perfectly to every pixel
as much as you want,
But the players now know the game like the back of their penis database websites are far more against
We went there now talk on discords instead of in-game and on forums
YouTube has full guides on how to do literally everything and the collected player base are now balding and
Regretting their life choices such as playing too much World of Warcraft in there dude mad season is going in on this video, bro
I mean geez
Wow, okay
There's a different time to be sure and just one of the many differences is the streaming culture
Of course, there are no live streamers in 2004 one with a game being multiple man
This streaming culture differences. That's what it is the streaming culture, of course there
Yep, this guy pale. It's Joker pale
Savics, I mean perplexity guys these streamers are just
No live stream roots in 2004.
Genji, I mean, Annie, I mean, because these three issues...
I think the game being multiplayer, no changes crowd-sod down as a threat to the sanctity of the game.
What if a streamer plays on their server?
What if they have a crowd of people spanning chat channels, giving them free items and gold, an easy scare of lord?
It is a multiplayer game after all, you can't just live in your own bubble and not affect others.
And so, this would become a source of friction between streamers, their communities, and the
rest of the player base, with some members of the ladder making it clear that these alien
communities were not welcome on their server.
This would go on for months until they'd hit something of a boiling point when a popular
streamer named Soda Poppin had this to say.
Love to not receive any streamer benefits, but also all the downsides of being a streamer.
I don't want to receive those either.
I'd rather it all just be gone.
I want to be a completely normal player.
That's not happening.
One thing you could do is basically a horde and alliance blacklist.
If an alliance player is just blatantly just being a fucking sperm.
Just stream sniping, clouching, like all these different terrible things, like a knowing
thing.
I'll take that person and I'll say, okay, blacklist this person.
My friends on the alliance or other streamers don't play with this person.
They are never allowed in anything that the actual good guilds on the Alliance are doing.
They are blacklist.
So, you won't get any actual good raids.
You'll never actually get any good gear.
And eventually, if you want to keep stream sniping, you're going to be doing it while
I have double your gear.
This was essentially an open declaration of war to the...
Yeah, Soda actually brings up a good point, right?
Like, there's a lot of downsides to streaming and a lot of upsides.
And they kind of come together, right?
And it's like, like Soda just said,
if he could trade the downsides for the upsides, he would.
But you can't really do that, right?
One of the ways that I've found to kind of do that
is to play solo self-found.
And that's what I've generally been doing
the last many years,
because you kind of get that authentic experience.
In fact, I've been kind of craving to play
some WoW Offstream, where you're just kind of like,
They're not you're not getting stream sniped or followed. You just kind of you're just kind of there and typing and then
It's been a while sounds very nice very fun
So I kind of agree with soda right like it would be nice to do the trade-off, but you can't really do it
So that's kind of how it works. So it's yeah, I
Don't know anyway
exploration of war to the no changes crowd who swiftly replied with their most powerful weapon
complaining on the forums. The autism reached their highest levels when a
coalition of players announced the creation of an add-on called the blacklist
which was designed to blacklist not just soda poppin but all streamers.
On August 12th, a coalition of at least four well-known hardcore private
server guilds always planned to speed level a full raid in hopes of a week
one regular of skills will announce their intended server with this
message. Streamers, you're not welcome on X. Any attempt to play on our server will result
in such an amount of griefing for both factions that you will be unable to play.
I never heard about that, this is crazy! After 9 days, we will begin the plan of attack.
There will be Christ-Pempst. There will be Chainsheed. There will have their bags
and mailboxes filled with heavy leather balls and peeling the onions. You will not
be able to take a single bomb at any time that they're in.
What's funny and ironic about this is this is directly against terms of service.
Like you can't target someone and allow them to not play the game.
Very clearly in the TOS you can't do that.
So nice post bro.
This will be a coordinated effort, having a 281 of 60 players.
No amount of fanboys.
This will stop us.
But that's not enough.
Sometime after our announcement, but before the game launches, we will publish the blacklist.
An alarm that will make streamers invisible to their own faction and constantly tracked by their opposing faction.
With the blacklist, any streamer and those in the same guild will have the following effects placed on them.
Your trade requests and group requests will be automatically cancelled.
If a player enters a group you are already in, they will automatically leave.
I am just I never saw this. I don't know how long ago. This was maybe in 2020 or something
I don't know but like this is
Crazy to me who is who typed this thinking this is reality at all ever
That is nuts. I can't believe like unless it's an elaborate troll then it's kind of funny
But if this is not a troll, I mean that is
Crazy man
And this is the sick tip of the iceberg.
Dude, that is nuts.
I've never heard about that.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that is.
That is very embarrassing.
Unbelievable.
PvP will be a subject often discussed in the series as it's...
Someone said didn't Soda say the exact same thing?
Soda's was the opposite.
Soda was saying, you just play normally unless someone is griefing you and camping you.
So doing what that reddit post was saying, then from there, you would just blacklist
them and not play with them.
So if you're being that guy, then you just get outed.
But Soda wanted to play like a normal player.
That was what Soda was saying.
So Soda was saying the exact opposite of that.
like I just want to play the game normally and if people want to mess with that then then you get
Blacklist and so yeah definitely very opposite court of potent source of degeneracy and next on the
list is phase two of classic 2019 okay here we go release classic world of warcraft they implemented
something of a schedule of content releases of course when the game originally released back in
in 2004. Many of the features and systems, raids, dungeons, recipes, quests, and so on
were slowly added. So for the re-release, they decided to pick what they felt to be the most
major of these updates and fit them into a six-phase schedule to roughly match the
cadence of patch releases in the original run of the game.
Phase one would come with the original raids, molten core in Enixia, swallows Maradin,
And as you can see, it explicitly mentions that while you can PVP, there are no rewards
for doing so.
This missing honor system would come in Phase 2, which was released on November 12, 2019,
which was about two and a half months after its initial release.
I remember that.
So at this point, the vast majority of serious players had hit Level 60, and it started
to accumulate high-end gear.
The reason why it was one of the most toxic and degenerate moments in the game's history,
However, we're three in total.
One is lowest level 48.
Players would count as an honorable kill.
Yeah.
And therefore give honor to,
there were no battlegrounds implemented at this point.
As the first two, the war son, Golch and the Alkric Valley
were coming in phase three.
Yup.
And three, PVP on a PVP server.
Yup.
Well, that is if you count PVP as groups of 10, 20, 30,
plus roaming around corpse camping,
Level 48's in Felwood and rogue stocking flight points to gank people who went AFK to take a shit
If you're on a PvP server during this time, even if you're a solo level 60
It was like the purge movies where people are allowed to freely hunt each other without
Legal repercussions for 24 hours. The world was so on our realm. We were on Farrelina horde
we had every
three flight path camped in the world, bro.
If you were in Alliance and you landed instantly dead,
you were getting the flight paths were spam AOE so hard,
right when you landed dead, right?
We were sitting outside the cities,
right when someone left dead,
take a flight, just dead, like anywhere, bro.
Alliance were just shivering in their cities,
like, oh, we can't leave, they're so scared.
It was brutal, very brutal.
And then, uh, and then battlegrounds came out and everything changed.
So nice.
Uninhabitable solo PVP hotspots that happened to hold dungeons like the
black rock depths and the black rock mountain was a corpse run marathon,
turning the travel time from five minutes to 50 questing areas for
levels 50 to 60 were the prime hunting grounds.
And if your numbers pass against TOS, so someone correct me.
if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's against TOS to world PVP.
I think what's against TOS is tracking someone down specifically
via information on a Discord server or a Reddit
or a stream or a YouTube video or whatever
and camping them specifically
and following them around the world.
It's very different to AOE a flight path for TOS
than to harass someone individually.
That's how I understand it.
So no, AOE camping a flight path, not against TOS,
tracking some of them specifically throughout the world
and harassing them is against TOS.
Anyway.
Green, you're on the table as everybody was scrambling
to scavenge as much honor as humanly possible.
And remember, this was the era
before Dungeon Finder and teleports
either had to quest out in the world
or hide in the confines of the dungeon
and mindlessly grind it over and over to progress.
Yep.
You'd have actual raids.
patrolling across entire zones and circles, hunting lovelers, and another one waiting at
the graveyard in case they took resurrection sickness.
The Unresisting first released in 2005.
It was pretty bad.
It wasn't like this because no one really understood the game, but by 2020 the game
obviously has been micro-analyzed and hyper-optimized, and the optimal way to rank during this
period was to corp scan people until they logged off.
It was truly one of the radiest times in the game's history.
It was brutal.
The casual players just started the straight-up quit and third-party websites were overflowing
with salt. And many point towards this moment as a major hemorrhaging of the casual player
based on PvP servers as the game was essentially unplayable. Some people will say,
what are you talking about? This looks awesome, which it is in some senses. In a way, it's
rather interesting and unique to have such danger roaming about the world. But the
The problem was it ended up being incredibly damaging to the game because it was at this
moment that the servers became incredibly imbalanced.
Servers with even small discrepancies between the factions, such as 60-40, would eventually
slide to 70-30 and then 80-20 because the underman faction simply couldn't play the
game.
Yeah, so it was like, if a server was like 55-45, you know, it kind of worked but
as soon as it starts to slide, it's like domino theory, right?
You have more people on Horde, 60, 40,
and it's like, oh crap,
the Alliance are kind of getting dominated.
So if someone rolls on the server,
it's like, oh, I'll just roll Horde
because I would rather not get owned
in WorldPVP consistently, right?
And then it goes to 65, 35.
Then it's like, okay, now it's so dominant
that it's like, okay, I'm definitely gonna roll Horde.
And then it goes to 70, 30.
And then it goes to 80, 20.
And then all of a sudden it's like,
all the dominoes go down, right?
It's like, boom, everyone's on one side.
It's like, okay, that's kind of how it works.
So that every server's got completely ruined.
For cosplayers to transfer unmask off of underdog factions,
and not only that,
they would transfer to servers where their faction
was the majority until 90% of the active servers
became imbalanced to the point to where you couldn't even
find rating guilds.
Major cities would be taken over by the opposite faction.
So as interesting as it all was,
it was also a very damaging moment for the game
as people watched their communities,
which was one of the major draws of classic,
slowly fade away in fracture
under this pressure of severe imbalance.
It was so bad that Blizzard ended up actually releasing
the Warsaw Gorge and Altrick Valley Battlegrounds
two months ahead of time before phase three,
which relieved the craziness going on in the world
as the primary means of farming honor
were now battlegrounds.
So people could AFK and Altrick Valley to rank,
which was a different but equally ready form of
PvP, that they loved so much, but even still, the damage was done as the world of the MMO
saw yet another example of how the players must be protected from themselves.
You need to calm down, no one's fucking yelling at you, so you need to stop yelling at her.
Okay?
We're all cool here, alright?
Hey you!
Start your fucking mouth!
No!
Like a fucking wimp!
Oh fuck you!
Next we're going to take a little field trip and that's Millie from the dark age
of Camelot.
Bro!
This one I have to include purely on its insanity.
It isn't related to World of Warcraft, but it is often incorrectly attributed to it, and
that's the Cloudsong incident.
Hey, I know you're part of the motherfuckers!
You fuckin' stole my Cloudsong!
If I ever find out where you live, I'm fuckin' tellin' ya!
This is a true archeological find, dating back to the prehistoric era, even before
YouTube existed.
It first popped up on the dinosaur playground, YTMND, short for you're the man now
dog.
Yeah, this is where memes were created.
There wasn't even any video, there's just still images with audio attached to them.
The reason why this was incorrectly attributed to World of Warcraft was because the person
who posted that used an image from WoW.
I know you're part of the fucking world over there, but I'm fucking sure my cloud song
is from another legend.
The clown style that it's best to comment on is referring to is actually from another legendary MMO called The Dark Age of Camelot.
It was a caster cloak. I'm not even going to pretend what these stats mean.
I'm sure someone in the comments will be able to cover my lack of knowledge here.
But just know that at some point, this was the best caster cloak in the game.
Calm down, dude. It's just a fucking game.
I FUCKING GRIP MY OOF FUCKING GAME!
I FUCKING GROVE!
The context and certain stances behind the events are a mystery, but considering how the accused doesn't deny the act of thievery
It's assumed that he was somehow able to steal this coveted cloak in some way
But I ain't never seen a millie, that's your name, I don't know if it is, you need a fucking top down or a little bit
You can't listen up and you listen to me, you're a motherfucka
Wow
You're still one little fucking thing, you're a fucking fucking thing, I'm a fucking fucking goat
Bro, you don't even know where I live
The clip became so infamous that it's overtaken the clip.
Bro, that's the last thing you want to tell someone when they're like really heated is just to calm down.
If you tell someone to calm down when they're not calm, it's usually not a good, not a good thing to say, bro.
Self, searching for life and return results of the mental breakdown rather than clogged song itself.
It was kind of used to display the mental instability of the MMO player base.
And today goes down as one of the most unhinged moments in MMORPG history
Wow that is something never heard about that
So, RMT, no changes, blacklists, mental breakdowns.
Just another day in the wonderful world of the MMORPG.
So it includes another episode, but don't worry, we're just getting started.
Game has been running for quite a while and there's certainly no shortage of crazy moments,
so I'll see the world's last day.
That was not what I was expecting.
Um, yeah, I feel like Mad Season just kind of, kind of just said it all.
Like there's so many videos where he hints at like hating RMT and like gold buying in this video.
He's just like screw it. We'll just say it all. Like just kind of put it all out there.
It's like, yeah, kind of like a venting video. Yeah.
Solid video. I think he has some really good points. This was like, yeah, unchained Mad Season vid, bro. Solid.
maintenance extended one hour? No. No bro! Dude why did I get on early today? Out of
all days I got on like an hour early. Are you guys sure? The server list is like
right there. It doesn't say here. Oh retail got extended to 10 but for
Classic it still says nine
It's extended on mine. Are you sure I'm gonna close bean at reopened. I just maybe mine isn't refreshed
Mine still says nine on classic but it says ten for retail
Oh, maybe if I go here it says ten oh it says ten here
Oh
Great day to get on early, huh boys hype. Let's go, baby
Let's go let's go, dude
Oh my gosh very very nice very nice
Um
Blizzard please we need this bad legacy. Thanks for prompt
I'm gonna the restroom guys when I'm back will
Send some more reacts
Think I think there was like another video or two potentially
Well, let's watch the rad video I saw yesterday was fantastic the reaction be all my youtube live today if it's not already
service still down. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice.
I'm Fiamma. New and reimagined zones featuring Fiamma. Is this for classic or for retail?
What is this? Has anyone seen this video? Is this good? Yo,
Thanks for the problem.
Blizzard is telling us to touch grass.
Blizzard already touched grass.
Now we're trying to play the video game.
Let me play the game.
Come on.
Bum bum bum.
What are these patch notes for?
I think arena's coming up.
Is our sounds addicted?
I'm not addicted.
I just want to play the game right now.
Very badly
Calm towns are calm down, bro
My gosh, this is the entire wild classic Eastern Kingdom's map with no view distance limits
No view fog and I recently posted a full flyover of the entire continent
where I'd point out landmarks and interesting things and some secrets like this one.
They got quite a few comments from folks saying that they'd never seen this or they didn't know what it was for.
So here, of course, is the south side of Black Rock Mountain and you can see the entry ramp coming up from the burning steps.
Yeah, but just to the right or the east of this is this often overlooked little cave.
Oh, it's very short. Huh. It just wraps around to the other side here,
But inside is a raid portal and you know, I've read while books and I've researched development
I never knew that
Classic plus. Oh, dude, that could definitely be a raid in classic plus. Did anyone in the chat know that everyone's like freaking out. Yeah
I never knew that that is crazy
Dude, there's so much they can do in classic plus raid portal. Huh?
History, but I've never been able to figure out what this might have been for you know
Was it for some alternate entrance to something inside Black Rock Mountain or what?
So if you know or you have a theory and you want to let me know in the comments
Please do and the full flyover is a long video
It's one you might want to watch you know on the TV or the computer while you're sitting down for lunch or something
But I promise it's a cool sort of nostalgic trip through wow classic
Trying to grow my little wow channel here. So if you want to shoot me a sub to I appreciate that have a great day
Okay.
This is the end.
720 zone guys, definitely check them out.
What are the comments saying, this has got to be the first new thing in years I've seen
on a wow YouTube channel.
Yeah, I haven't seen that either.
This is what I want classic plus to be all these small little things could have been
something crazy.
Yeah, exactly.
Original portal of BWL moved to Ubers.
You guys think it was the original BWL port?
Maybe.
Where did you see that?
The post right above yours.
There are YouTube comments that are so troll.
Oh my gosh.
BW has all released from 1.6, what's your logic?
So this guy is just completely trolling.
It's the first time I've ever seen this.
I've gathered so much info on Classic.
I just did not know about the cave.
I never knew about the cave.
So no one knows what it is or what it was supposed to be, I guess.
Super interesting.
Are you up yet?
Bro, what's going on?
My wow crashed or something.
Huh.
Blizzard extended another hour.
Yeah, but it could be back up right now.
If I mean, I haven't checked in a few seconds.
It says till 10 and this is now updated.
Oh, that's insane.
weird my wow is not responding super weird let me in Blizzard is there any value to doing
vanilla raids and TVC very little value Zol'Garab drops two mounts which people like to do technically
Before the nerf on mind quickening jam,
you could do BWL for MQG
or like maybe stylings or something,
but like very little value.
That's why it's still considered more vertical progression.
Nax, enchants, or trinkets, yeah,
there's like some small reasons, I guess.
Do I plan on doing a 5-man titchi? Yeah, when I have some free time. I feel like we've just been non-stop living in heroics
Um, see what's happening.
I
We two-man the tiger boss with a feral plus rest or true this weekend. It was a blast but no tiger though
Okay, okay. I was thinking I think I could two-man the tiger boss with just a healer
Like we you basically just pull the boss with some nades the healers there
I mean, I'm not gonna take any damage. We just spam a we's I think just prop alien healer could two-man it
I'm thinking
You win a priestess GG. Yeah
You can solo the tiger, I don't think I can solo I think I do need a healer
You aren't PST, are you? I'm one hour after. I'm Arizona time, which is MST. You're growing
out your hair a little bit. Probably keep getting it cut around here. What is my biggest weighted
calf raise? 135 for high reps. Is that right, golf? I do not. Hey, Cody, good morning.
Bring Aussie for the S-Priest? Could happen. Are Aero servers up? Nah. Actually, maybe
they are. Is ERA up? I don't know if it's up. Is there a way to obtain the Pali document
by chance. Yeah, I can link it for you. This is the doc oven following. There you go. I'll
link it on YouTube too. How do people get invited to your raids? I'll probably just
invite people via whisper two hours before the raid on Thursday. I'll make my group
nice and early, we'll gear check, and we'll just, we'll just plug it with the
guildies or even non-guildies, just get a bunch of people in there,
viewers. Good morning! Good morning, Aether, how's it going?
Do you have to use seal twisting as a prop? Probably not.
Uh, no, Aether's not up.
Well, at HR the amount of it drops, which mount?
Is mop up?
Do some duels.
I don't know if mop is up, I don't have gear on mop.
The caramount?
Nah.
I'll probably roll out caramount whoever, if it drops we'll roll it out.
The CG mount?
I would harder serve.
favor amount. But I would go in like telling people it's harder served so.
Yo predicts thanks for the prompt.
Santoku giving you some love on the new baby man. What's up?
My top back squat is 300 for two. I did 315 for one or 300 for two. I did
The economy worse on DreamScythe or Knight?
I think Knight is worse.
KT, thanks so much for the prime.
Excited for the next few months or while.
We have a lot of really awesome things
to look forward to, yeah.
Oh yeah, someone linked me this in the Discord.
Cable, when?
How tanking works in TBC.
I don't know if anyone's seen this video,
but apparently there's a lot of good info in this.
What server?
dream. I'm a dream site. I sent it. Yeah, you sent this Nick. Yeah, Nick, should I watch
this? Is this good?
Dream site gold is more expensive. How would you know, bro? Send this to soda? He doesn't
understand how block works. I mean, I don't know either. So this might actually be a good
watch for me.
Leo, we're going to be covering tanks in the Burning Crusade Classic today.
Okay.
If you have a tank friend or if you are a tank, make sure you watch this video as always.
If you enjoy it, I ask that you subscribe to the channel for more content.
You hit us with a like and share our Discord because we have a new section in there that
is called in the out that help you succeed at whatever your aim in the game is. Diving
right into it, things that need to be understood. Your defense skill works as follows. For each
one defense skill, you are granted 0.04% dodge parry block chance to be missed or chance to be
crit. And there's a very complicated formula that I'm going to go over and explain in the
the best way possible that goes along with these things.
Your base stats are as a tank, for every one stamina point you get 10 points of HP and
some classes have modifiers that increase that.
For example, your Druid Bear form or your Dire Bear form will increase your stamina
by 25%.
If you are a dude and you have 5 points at the heart of the wild, that adds an additional
20% stamina, and if you have Blessing of Kings up from a paladin, that's going to give you
plus 10% to all stats, making the effective formula 10 times 1.25 times 1.20 times 1.10
totaling 16.5 HP per point of stamina, that's a 65% increase to stamina, which is absurd.
That's what I have for you as far as individual tanking classes.
Now here is something that really matters, right?
In the burning crusade classic, avoidance rolls are ordered.
And they're ordered in Miss Dodge, Perry, Block, Hit and Crit.
I don't think I knew this.
They're ordered in a specific order.
I didn't know it went Miss first, then Dodge.
I don't know if that's, is that relevant at all?
it is relevant, I didn't know that.
And what that means specifically is this.
I will try to break it down as efficiently as possible.
So the way that being hit is programmed into the game, let's say for a tank in a PvE scenario,
is that there's a miss, a dodge, a parry, a block, and then there's the ability for
you to get hit, and then there's the ability for you to be critically damaged, right? But
it is worth noting that only one result can happen per attack, and the game stops checking
as soon as one result succeeds. So what that means is let's say that there's a raid boss
that attacks a tank, and that tank has an 8% chance to be missed, a 25% chance to dodge,
a 15% chance to parry and a 20% chance to block. The game resolves the attack as follows. If the
roll fails within the miss range, the attack misses. The dodge check then comes into effect.
It's only checked if the attack did not miss. So if it passes the miss check or fails within
the miss range then it goes to the dodge check and then after the dodge check it goes into the
parry check and the parries only checked if the attack did not miss or get dodged. I'm kind of
confused on why this matters if you have the 102.4 then you have the 102.4 if you don't you don't
I mean I'll keep listening clearly I'm missing something. And then if it passes the parry
check then it goes into the block check right and why this order matters right
because once you get to hit if it got through all of those checks then you're
gonna take the damage and if it gets to the hit damage then you can be critically
hit which is you know big damage on a tank and you don't want that in a PDE
scenario and why this matters why does matter yeah your block and parry chance
do not reduce your crit chance directly.
Shield block and holy shield force the table.
When the block chance becomes high enough,
block occupies so much of the table
that crushing blows and crits are completely removed.
This is why warrior and powder than tanks
rely on block based abilities.
Crushing blows are also-
I feel like this is too technical.
It's making it more complicated than it needs to be.
Just go for your defense and go for your uncrushable.
Go for uncritable and go for uncrushable.
I feel like this is needlessly confusing.
Exactly.
Yeah, I don't think it's just a bunch of words.
Unless I'm, maybe I'm trolling, but I'll keep listening.
And it feels like it's just like, yo, bro,
get this much defense, get this much avoidance
to your shilling.
Table-based, it's very complicated,
but I'll help you understand it all.
Crushing blows only occur if they remain on the attack table.
So if you're able to push them off the attack table,
they cannot occur.
And those are removed by filling the table
with misdodge, parry, or block.
This state is called historically
in World of Warcraft being uncrushable,
which is what some people demand from tanks
because a crush and bloke and wipe arrayed.
And a way to make it make sense is,
let's say you have a 100 sided die, you know?
And on that 100 sided die,
that you roll every single time the boss
tries to hit you with an attack.
If you roll a one through eight,
given the stat examples that we provided earlier,
which I'll go over them real quickly again, right?
Let's say that you have a tank with 8% chance to be missed,
a 25% chance to dodge, a 15% chance to parry,
and a 20% chance to block.
And you roll that 100-sided die.
If it lands on numbers 1 through 8, the attack will miss.
If it lands on numbers 9 through 33, the attack will be dodged.
If it lands on numbers 34 to 48, the attack will be parried.
If it lands on numbers 49 to 68,
you will block the attack if it lands on number 60.
So if you have the higher block chance,
it pushes the crit off of the table altogether.
Okay, like, yeah.
Nine to 94, the attack will hit you.
And if it lands on number nine.
I think this video is just more of like an interesting thing
if you're curious about how the game does the actual math,
but it's completely irrelevant for like anything.
He's not even telling you how much defense or avoidance to get.
It's literally just, this is how the game calculates it,
if you're interested.
But like no one needs to know this pretty much at all.
95 to 100, you will be critically hit by that attack.
And this is a formula in the programming
that is happening every single time
that you are hit by an attack as a tank.
And the reason why tanking stats are so vital
the success, an end game of your rating experience or your dungeon experience is that adding dodge
or block or any stats like that shrinks the hit and crit ranges and the smaller you can get that
range or the lowest percent that you can get the range for you to be hit or critically hit
it, the better you are at staying alive as a tank, the more load that you take off of
the healers, healing you independently and they can focus on the rest of the raid and
the higher the percent chance of you succeeding a certain raid is going to be.
To summarize it all, avoidance is not additive, it is positional and your earlier
results um erase your later ones so if you fill one of the slots on that table then your later
results are erased so if you you know have a hit miss you then it doesn't go through the rest of
the table it doesn't keep trying but why does that matter on a practical level
at all it doesn't like it like it I can't believe the whole video is gone he's
that he doesn't even talk about the the avoidance cap or the defense cap I don't
know man I'm like bro what that's his secret I guess it's just a bunch of
nothing man yo two for thanks for the prime Katie thanks for the prime um
It's interesting that it's positional, I guess, but there's zero practical information in the whole video
He doesn't even tell you how much defense or avoidance to get it. I
Don't know man. I guess it's fascinating from a
Get farmed I guess
The video is how tanking works, but it doesn't actually tell you a single thing practical
bunch of I don't know
anyway
interesting are the servers up a for effort give me a for effort that's right
subtle talks about this yeah dude what I've been going off of is this the
Libra of protection complete guide to TBC prop my subtle this thing owns this
thing absolutely owns. It has like everything paladin oriented in here that you could imagine.
Coefficient, seals, judgments, twisting, blessings, fans, threats, hits, uncritical and uncrushable
Which is kind of what the video is about you want 5.6% which is like 590 or 490 defense
Full combat table coverage one of 2.4, which is kind of what the video talked about a little bit
stats
talents bunch of different builds
resistances consumables mid max in chance dude
professions
Group comps
The healer group would probably be the best fit for the raid overall holy Pali should speck stank or a free to free up talent points
Interesting okay macros. I mean yeah, anyway if you guys want to link to this I'll link it in the chat. It's very nice
BOOM BOOM
Into the healer group you go?
True.
True, true.
BOOM BOOM
BOOM
Oh, come on Blizzard.
Come on blizzard are the servers still down? Yeah, it looks like it
Looks like it
Did you watch the pika AI distract I did not it got pushed back another hour brutal how do we get the Google Doc for
Pratt, let me like it for you in
There's an rate interest sign-up sheet on the discord. You get an idea of how many sign-ups we could have okay. That's huge
Extended 24 hour maintenance now. I hope not man. I really hope not
Did you hear about ampies Valentine's Day plans? I did not this is the only one I could do today. I got Valentine's Day plans
Wow
What?
Okay, what do you got planned? Is it a secret? No, it's a it's a leveling date with loads. We're gonna 70
bro
Wait, you're just gonna play more wow
It seemed like you had a pick like you're going out
Honestly bro dump bro ampy is married to the game man there it is
He has to turn his stream off and go so we can level off stream with the date
I mean, honestly that is that's kind of wild
That is you you have the best
Yeah, and he's locked in a dialed man. It's the only one I can do today. I got Valentine's Day plans
Wow
What I
Love it dude. Oh my gosh
What do you got planned? Is it a secret?
No, it's a it's a leveling date with Liz. We're gonna have 70
Role
Wait, you see that yeah, that's wild. That is wild
Poke is a gamer, pro we might be gaming with poke at some point.
Amp locked in and piled as per usual, there we go.
Bum bum bum bum.
Okay, we'll just keep, keep watching stuff.
Um.
That's me baby.
Let's fucking head on.
That's it, it's time, it's time to lock in.
Let's go, let's go baby!
What are the chances he stopped I love it
We got a $13 donation from chess of righteousness. He says, Hey, is are you just wanted to ask
I've been running steam vaults 28 times in a row now.
Shess of the righteousness is not dropped. Have you gotten this item and is it bugged?
Oh, yeah, I dropped on my first try.
I would recommend just getting the drop, man.
Yeah, good luck.
Yeah, crazy, crazy RNG.
Crazy RNG.
All right, any other clips?
Any other clips?
Yo, Mad Lad Mike, thanks for the two on some, appreciate it.
You gotta pretend you don't need the drop, it's kinda true.
What loot am I still grinding for?
I just need heroic belt, heroic bracers.
I started my stream really early today so I could get more heroics in so we could
get the helmet today.
but the servers are delayed so,
I would like to get the mark helmet today.
See what happens.
I find that I get consistently get loot
when I decided to do the dungeon to help someone else.
Maybe that's how it works.
You have a massive bing.com link, nice bro.
Proposing on Sunday, yo, good luck, have fun man.
Big congrats.
You decided on the helmet?
I think the helmet is gonna be better
just cause we'll keep it longer, I think.
accent, thanks for the prime.
If Twitch Prime's still working even though the servers are down,
I think Twitch Primes were bugged earlier,
but they might be back online now.
We'll have to see.
All right, what else is happening?
What's this called?
Servers are up?
No way.
Hold on Ozzy hold on hold on
Broke someone being that guy someone being that guy. All right
What is what am I watching here oh?
Cosmos
We draw nice our shock. Oh, dude, dude sardocco is level 70 as well. Let's go. Oh
No, it's a little 67 in this clip
They didn't take any damage from the explosions.
Am I lost, right?
No, it's okay.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
I don't know what this clip is not taking any damage.
Oh, yeah.
Just a nice LOS or something.
No longer calls in Sardako.
Yeah, Sardako.
I was actually going to message Sardako.
I didn't know he was this high level.
Yo, are you raiding on Thursday Raid Launch Day?
Like 4pm PST?
See what he says.
You were reading the message
of a blade of wizardry owner.
Let's go, man.
Yo, Pultra, thanks for the prime.
Any wisdom for a 65 slowpoke?
If you're level 65, you're probably,
like chat is gonna call me delusional for this.
But if you're level 65, you're probably a very normal, balanced player.
Honestly, bro, if you're level 65, W to you, you're taking your time.
You're not like you're not even behind the curve on on the on the grand scheme of
thing. You're behind the curve.
If you compare yourself to a bunch of sweaty Andes who haven't left their
basement in two weeks, all right?
You're you're the guy, man.
W to you.
If you're level 65, you're enjoying yourself.
You have a lot of content to come.
You're not burning yourself out.
You know balance a lot w man w for level 65 enjoy it. All right
That's not that that's the wisdom for a level 65 man. You're doing fantastic. Keep it up
Yeah, I actually have a couple
Real-life friends that play that you know, they have they have full-time jobs and one of them has kids
Let me think the other one the other one does not have kids and there's a third one
The other one also doesn't have kids anyway, none of my real life friends that play wow are 70 yet, right?
They play casually for fun. They're chilling
They're like
Close to 70 like 68 or 67 or something, but like yeah
Solid there it is
What was the point in this clip? I think the point of the clip is that you can line aside this boss on the explosion
I think
watch the peak of this track I don't know where that is read the title not
taking any damage yeah like line of sight I guess I'm level 68 with a full-time
job there we go man w this is the peak of this track guys this isn't DMCA right
because it's like AI or whatever like I can play this without getting permanently
band is that what's happening yo eridan thanks for the problem yes correct all right what is this
the stage lights flicker on the shadow better stay too long is that pico
27 years and you watch them sing in the same time song
Step out of the still
Like whoever like put in the prom for this or whatever man cheese
It's going way, it's going way too far man. I can barely listen to this because my homie man
This is this is like too much. It's like dude. Why are we saying this? Why are we going here, man?
God
Listen
Dude, all right, that's it. That's all I've got I can't I can't watch anymore look
I love the troll peekaboo, but peekaboo is my homey that is that that went too far. It's like it's just too much man
I can't I'm sorry. Oh my gosh, um
Um, dang, yeah, I mean that was brutal.
That was brutal.
It's too much, man, too much for me.
Alright, let's check the server's are up.
Alright.
Nope, the servers are not up.
Servers are not up at all.
That is it.
Uh, Raptime, we've seen the RAP video.
It's amazing.
20 more minutes, gosh, man.
I really thought the servers would be up today and early.
Like, I got on an hour and a half earlier,
or like an hour early, and I was like, man,
servers are gonna be up early, let's do this.
This works completely.
Yeah, the Ravv video is amazing.
How do you see the exact health number of mobs?
I can't see it.
Killer, thanks for the G1.
Doing any arena today?
I think I'm doing mainly heroics.
If I have any time, I might hit...
I don't know who I'm doing arena today, man, honestly.
I might wait until Monday for Cap or something.
Yo, Quinny, what's up, what's up?
Update available in launcher, it looks like.
Oh, really?
Okay, let me cancel out.
Are you gonna play legacy bro? I want to play legacy, but the timing is brutal. I want to play
T2 I really don't play TVC right now, but retail comes out in
Do midnight comes out in a week or like 10 days some I plan to play retail
I want to play legacy. There's so many so many things man
It's if he is glad you're doing well. Oh, yeah, what I'm safe. Hope you're doing well too, man
how's the retail gear looking for midnight I haven't played a retail in a while
see what happens see what happens servers will be up any second now okay let's just
kind of like look at the login screen I think they're gonna be up any flash
playing out man. Legacy streams were goaded. I do plan to check out Legacy. It's actually
not even called Legacy anymore. They repranded to Eldegard. I do plan to play that at some
point this year. I want to play it. I just can't right now because it's too much other
stuff. Can we watch your old TBC mage gameplay together? Zaryu TBC mage guide. Hey guys Zaryu
here and today we are covering Frostmage, TBC, PVP, Talents, baby. That right. Wow, that was a good intro. Nice. Okay.
Guys, these are the Talents. Dude, we were on one that morning.
Right there, guys. You just can skip the whole video and look at that. Those are the Talents.
Actually, no, I think I tell you which one of the change and stuff. Most replay. Everyone
Everyone does the same thing. They just like skip to the video right there.
Nice.
When we need more, is it to argue tanks? Look at the arms guys.
We're in the oversize t-shirts. Alright, that's what's happening.
That's what's happening. That's what's happening.
happen. The plants are still alive. Same plant. Actually, the other plant is not there anymore.
The lighting is a little different than it used to be. So I used to stream with a lighting
like, you know, the lighting looks a little different too. But other than that, like same
kind of headset, same microphone, same table, back wall, same kind of same deal. Where's
Where's the prison jumpsuit from the CDL?
Revealing my secret classic wild macros.
I don't know, is it in this?
This fun.
Bro, back in the day, man.
Back in the day, dude.
Slave pens, AOE grinding guide.
Sorry, you guys.
We're not a to a we cried in slave pens right here, man
And the next right me say what you pay special attend pro my voice is so annoying
Here it is here it is guys
But you can't do this anymore. They fixed it
But if you want to know how you used to be able to do this before they fixed it
This is how you do it
So
It still is
Nice guys nice servers are up
All right guys lock in everybody dial in everybody behind me. Let's go in in in service up
Close out of that guy's video
Oh
Guys, it's time.
It's time.
Wow, we have a nice lot of auction sold.
Guys, this is this is real money.
I real money from real items that I spent time farming.
OK, real gold just so everybody can see it.
Yeah, see that?
1948 real gold real items.
There it is.
There it is
Okay, um, let me think about this for a second let me think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think think.
Let me message poke I was gonna make a game up with poke servers are up you still want to game up
You still want to game up
Alright, hoax logging in.
Okay, um, oh the PvP gear, let's see if the PvP gear is up.
Let's take a quick gander.
Nice layers messed up.
Dang.
Do SSE World Tour for Maxpatches and Morris for the girdle.
Yeah.
Um, one sec.
What am I doing?
Oh yeah, I was going to grab these.
What's the benefit of badges when you have your items?
I am getting badges for a new helmet, new shield,
there's a better, like a good shrinkage,
even a decent ring.
All right, let's go see if the vendor's up.
Um, okay.
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
Dude.
I think I get these bracers because there's nothing else that I would need to buy hold
on. Is that true? I think that is true. I think I just grabbed those bracers because I don't
need to buy anything else anyway. Get them. The thing is like I could get the other bracers
as a drop today and then it's kind of grief, but these are way better. Assuming the bracers
don't drop today. These are way better and I would need these anyway for arena. Get the
shield. These are the only honor pieces, I think. Is there a shield? Yeah, no, it's literally
just this stuff. You can get like the honor pieces here, which I think you could also
get for rep maybe. That's arena points. Yeah. I think it's literally like bracers,
Belts and boots like off pieces and all this blue stuff. I think you can get from rep vendors
There's a weapon vendor too. I don't think the weapons are guys. That's arena points. Yeah, that's arena points
The only thing you can get for off pieces is this vendor here this vendor is level 60 stuff
Check this one in the corner. I think it's arena points. Yeah
Hmm. There is blue. Okay, you guys aren't talking about the epic ones. The blue ones.
Okay. Yeah, this stuff is here. I mean, I don't think I need any of it though. Yeah, I don't need
any weapons. Okay, here's the neck piece that you guys are talking about. So like this neck
is actually pretty decent to 26 damage with a socket and resale. This neck is pretty dope.
I can't wear it yet because I need the avoidance cloak as well.
Cloak is alright.
I can't wear it because I need the avoidance.
The only thing that I really need right now would be the bracers.
Like these bracers I think I should buy because they're an immediate upgrade.
I'm getting more damage with a socket.
I think I'm getting more avoidance.
I'm getting just more armor, more in.
Like I think these bracers are just worth it.
Yeah.
The reality is I might replace them today
if I get the other drop.
So yeah, I could wait to buy them till after, but that's fine.
I don't think I need to buy anything else anyway.
Because I'll still use these bracers for PVP.
Exactly.
Cool.
I wanted to check the avoidance difference, so my avoidance goes...
I actually lose three defense, and my avoidance goes down slightly.
But, I'm gonna socket this...
um, with...
I was gonna socket it with a thick gem, like a... what's it called?
Thick...
I think they're called like, thick... something.
Thick Amber. Thick... Thick Don Stones, that's what they are.
Because 8 defense, I think is going to be... Yeah.
I think I kind of need that extra 8 defense, since they're PvP Bracers.
I kind of need that for itemization.
I'm going to do a dungeon with poke.
I think we're gonna just do two
Slay pens and black morass those are the two he needs I said I would tank for poke and then after that we'll do
We'll do more well, I think we kind of need the world to her today to be honest
Okay, so now when I put these on my defense stays the same and my avoidance stays the same
It's actually I exactly the same so I can disenchant these greens cool
I also kind of wanted to enchant my bracers.
I don't know how much of a... like I might replace my bracers.
12 stamina.
There's also defense, I think defense to bracers or something.
I'm trying to think if I want to enchant these ones.
Do you guys think I should wait to enchant these in case the other ones drop?
Just wait, yeah, I gotta wait, get the daily dungeon quest, yet it could comms.
I'll do that.
There's four stats to bracers that's like pretty cheap actually.
I have the mats to do that.
I could just go four stats.
It's like a cheaper enchant.
For PVP, I think I would want the,
I don't know if there's, is there spell power to bracers?
I think for tanking, I want defense to bracers.
You know, Captain Pyle, thanks for the prom.
I think,
is it this? Yeah.
12 defense debraisers is the one like this actual this. Oh, this is pretty cheap. Does
Does anyone have this?
It's a rare drop, but the In-Shan is cheap.
Does anyone, I'll just buy this.
12 defense is fine.
That's like super cheap.
I want to buy plus 12 bracers to,
or plus 12 defense to bracers.
See if I can buy that real quick before the.
Yeah, the mats are super cheap.
20 spell power enchants this bracer for propel if you're following previous you'll be overcapped otherwise with this enchant I
Am under capped right now, so I need I need I need the cap
Are you not crush cap? No, I'm a little under crush cap. So anything that gives me defense is really good
I'm a little under I need like a tiny bit more this will actually give me pretty close
Receal resealing itself. Yeah, that's why the re-sol on here is not bad
Cool. That's a pretty cheap enchant, so I can just do it again if we get the other
bracers. Okay, cool. So now my defense is 492, my avoidance is 61. With this trinket
on my avoidance goes to 65.5 with Kings it goes to 65.8 we're still like a tiny bit short
the helmet will get us to avoidance gap so we'll be good the helmet will get us there
and we get the helmet today so we're vibing let's hit it
you should clip this and make a video on how tanking actually works and wow true
only two G was my maths yeah what's avoidance cap one or 2.4 how much HP do I
have I think like 13 ish fully buffed 13.4 something
that's faking TV see a lot of people like Pali's
of
Windows Kara come out Thursday 4 p.m. What consumes do I take for her? It's usually I like superior wizard oil
back basilisks or crunchy serpents and greater arcane elixirs and then health pots mana pots and iron shield pots
Do I like eye of the storm battle crowned?
I'm not a huge fan. I like War Song better. My favorite battlegrounds are like War Song
in Twin Peaks and Gilneas and then I like Khaumakku a lot. Those are some of my favorites.
Oh, get the Dungeon Quest. Yeah, good call. Oh, nice. It's Skyriss again. I'm going
I'm going to do Architras later.
The daily normal I don't need.
I don't think Rift Lords.
Would you do arena for the 310 mount?
I don't know.
Is that the orb one?
Top Magu, yeah
Yo, Dez. Thanks for the prime. Welcome in
It's been Arcatraz every day
I don't mind it because I need Arcatraz. Arcatraz gives me the bracers
Which I just got these bracers, but like
Yeah, these bracers are pretty good. If I can't replace these ones, I'm fine rating in these
If you're tanking BM for poke, yeah, I think we're gonna do sleigh pens and BM for poke
I mean I need I don't need sleigh pens, but I do need BM. BM gives the waist drop, so
And then from the airball we kind of need to world two or like most of them today if we actually want to get that helmet
We're at 29 badges the helmets from 50
So I think we can hit 50 today if we're locked in and dialed maybe
Can't be messing around.
I just draw Blink Strike and Okinae and I used to.
Restart your client?
How come?
Oh, fuck, she really hit me.
You win.
When you do a YouTube short slash video on SnapPryo as a tank,
and I can talk about it right now for a second,
Pali tanks are interesting because you have spell damage
and you need spell damage to keep threat.
But at the same time, you need to not get,
you need to not die.
So you need 485 defense for heroics and 490 defense for raids.
And this is to not get crit.
So 485 defense for heroics, 490 defense for raids,
that's not good crit.
Once you're there, you need avoidance.
Avoidance is the sum of block, parry, dodge, and miss.
You need 102.4 avoidance in raids.
And in dungeons, it doesn't really matter as much
because you can't get crushed, because there's no level 63s or something.
But in Rage, you want that 102.4.
To hit 102.4 as a Pally, you need 67.4% baseline or fully buffed,
because you're going to get the other at 35% from Holy Shield.
Assuming you have Libra Mother Pentance.
So 67.4 is the number you're looking for.
You can be a little under that because buffs help a bit.
And 102.4 is when you have Holy Shield up.
always have fully shield up.
And that's it.
So defense cap to be uncritable, avoidance cap to be
uncrushable, and enough spell power to keep threat.
For heroics, since you don't need the avoidance cap,
you want more stamina.
So I put on like a stamina trinket for heroics,
and that's pretty much it, man.
Hopefully that helps.
Sounds like a great YouTube short right Taylor shrew
How much honor and marks for bracers I think it's the war song Gulch marks and it was like
Okay, honor.
Say war song again, war song.
We're gonna do slave pens first
and then Black Marass, and then we're gonna,
I think those are the only two poke needs after that.
We'll probably game up with viewers
and just world tour it, man.
Why do I say it like that, Warsong?
I don't know.
Are we ever gonna raid Orgammar again?
I'm sure we will at some point, yeah.
What is a good comp for Marass?
You can you can play whatever because black morass is only one mob. So you don't need
AOE
Too much you could play single target comp or an AOE comp. I usually just ran with my AOE comp anyway
But it's only one mob at a time anything single high single target damage and then
The hunter has tranq shop, but I think you can spell steal or purge it as well
and then
Yeah, it's just you just need a good tank good healer single target damaged
Yeah, you need a purge or a tranq I think
How come you don't have flying mount I do have a flying mount I just am not on it right now
Yeah, these bracers are sick, but they're pricey man, I can't afford them.
Siphon, thanks for the prime.
I use Curseforge to download add-ons personally,
so it's a little app that you can download.
I use the standalone Curseforge app,
and you just go to like TBC anniversary,
and then you can search for add-ons here
and update them with this button.
It's pretty nice.
and
Okay, okay, okay.
Uh,
Slash reload to update at arms.
Yeah, that's nice.
My next purchase with badges, we're going for the big helmet man.
should put me over avoidance cap. It should give me, it should make you very, very tanky,
dude. I'm amped up about it.
Mmmmm, is this heroic?
Are you ready to raid in two days? I am, yeah. I'm amped up.
out.
Shaman wants wisdom.
So oblivion, thanks for the tier 1 dude, I appreciate it, I'm just going to pull this.
Look at that Moonkin DPS dude, it's actually hard to keep aggro off Moonkins randomly
enough.
Out of all the things to hold aggro on, it's actually kind of tough on Moonkins.
I don't know why.
I don't know if they have like different threat modifiers in a lot of classes
because sometimes they don't even do that much damage, they just pull aggro.
Moon can tend to at least threat reduction, yeah, it's like something with the actual threat itself.
Salve the druid, oh, that's an issue, good comms.
of
I
Rolled Pali or months around horror dude. I kind of would I mean either one works hundreds are amazing Pali's are great
I'm kind of pissed I didn't do a blood elf blood old Pali's are sick you have a range pull built in it's pretty rad
Crap, hopefully the slave handler doesn't pull.
No, it's fine.
Nice tremors.
Even though it's spec poke is playing, it's like a seed of corruption affliction, it looks like.
I'm going to stick to demo because it's fun. Good for you, man.
It slows.
Ready for carrot tomorrow?
It's in two days and I think I'm going to do gruelz.
They're going to do gruelz on launch.
on launch and then send Kara Friday.
DST, HR for Pal Tank.
I don't think I need that.
No, I don't need that.
I probably will reserve Bloodmaw Magus Blade, so casters might not be happy about that one.
Like Weapon Shield, but not on ADST.
Almost 20 years down the line, Kara, so my favorite Raid Dungeon.
Pretty much the same here, yeah.
It's hard to be Kara, man.
Kara on ascended difficulty is goaded. Wait, what's ascended? Am I still in the hardcore?
for a while I haven't played hardcore in a few weeks since uh... since tbc
you don't want cruel shield shield not definitely want the shield
we can get it it'd be great yeah
Joshua, thanks for the Prime, and Kylian, thanks for the Prime.
Oh, Ascendant's a private server.
I was like, yeah, I haven't heard of that.
What's right now?
I'm using Threat Classic 2?
Classic Threat 2?
Something like that?
Nimbun! Thanks for the prime! Yo, back at ya. Appreciate the support.
is
this wouldn't have helped
mob is gone the rating numbers
looked pretty decent for a while some
curious like what they looked like now the TV sees a
Oh
Mop isn't dying too bad, I'm really curious to look at the numbers definitely very very curious. I don't know
and
Look at that damage dude
Okay
Wow
Crazy damage
Yeah, thanks for the thanks for the tip you appreciate it been loving the streams getting into out through you
What addition is the best to play through first?
If you're new to WoW right now, like so here's the thing.
WoW goes through phases where like something is really hype and then something isn't really hype and this and that.
If you're playing WoW right now, the most hype thing by far is TBC.
Midnight the new retail expansion comes out in 10 days.
And I don't know if I'm on copium here, but like I don't really recommend retail for new players.
But I just don't know, like, I feel like classic for new players who just makes more sense.
Maybe I'm biased.
Anyway, I would probably recommend TBC right now.
I think it's easier to get into than retail.
It's super fun.
It's a dated MMO in the sense that like it's a classic MMO, right?
So if you want something more modern, I would check at retail, but yeah, I guess
depends on what you're looking for.
I had a bubble cancel because I got MC'd at the same time as I got feared weird
Can you skip this
I actually kill this pack but looks like you can just skip it nice
are
I guess we're doing it.
Hopefully that second pack doesn't pull, and the one behind us is probably coming soon.
I know we got some time.
Is Midnight still gonna have a crazy amount of spells?
No, they're actually reducing the amount of spells
by like a lot.
So Midnight's gonna have way less spells,
which could be a good thing or a bad thing.
It's kind of hard to tell.
I'm excited to try it out, really.
Oh my gosh, what the, where's my team?
I didn't mean to pull that.
I was sitting down shrinking and I pulled the boss.
I'm gonna try to taunt the spray here.
Taunt spray, let's see if that works.
Oh, it does work.
I don't know if I can stand in that acid spray.
Or how that works, but...
Cool.
I know you can taunt the spray.
Someone told me that yesterday.
Come on, Quag's Eye. I think Poke needs the Eye. Good luck, Poke. Nope. Press plate of
Righteous Fury and the legs. It's always the rogue gear that drops, man. You just need
PM now poke.
Yo, legend of Y, thanks for the problem.
Is there a link to my current talent build?
I'm using what's in, actually, no.
No, there's not.
I don't have it handy at least.
Actually, you know what, maybe I can find it.
Give me a sec.
Um, this build, I'm using this build, there you go man.
What add-on for threat?
All my add-ons are in discord guys.
Each with a damage summary of poke shadow pull on that last boss
Mythic plus is by far the most entertaining thing you can do in classic and retail
Mythic plus owns. I have to agree. Mythic plus is pretty darn sweet. Yeah. Mythic plus owns, dude
M plus destroyed the game for me for people that don't like M plus is it to just gamifying
and toxic is that the reason I guess it's like just to min max to sweaty to the game
is too gamified and it's like you want more of a sandbox.
Bum bum bum bum.
I like Mythic Plus.
I don't know.
I'm a big fan.
I never did Mythic Plus until a few years ago.
Or I guess until like two years.
I did it here and there.
But I didn't really get into it until War of Thames and I was like, oh my gosh.
This is so fun.
M plus is, yeah, M plus can be very fun.
All right, so we're going to the Black Marass.
We need the belts.
This will be our third one.
Maybe our fourth one.
Maybe our third or fourth one.
I think we've seen the leather belt.
We've seen a gem.
And I think I've seen another gem, like two gems
in a belt or something.
I mean, yeah, but is that a mythic plus problem? Or is that a player problem that's in arena,
battlegrounds, even like heroics, even like, I think that would be more of that's not a
It's not a mythic plus problem as much as like a player problem to me.
It's true for any facet of the game.
Once you get competitive, people just min-max and want to sweat, right?
Who do you like more, Blood Elves or Tronai?
I'm definitely liking the Blood Elves.
Definitely.
What does min-max means?
It means just to like sweat and make your character as strong as possible and go for
like the tiny little tiny little upgrades everywhere which hey man nothing wrong with that if I'd
say you like to play the game but it kind of gets to a point where it's like all right
we can kind of just chill are you making a red or healing set during the expansion?
I don't plan to, nah.
With the name Main Tank Pop, I was going to stick to Main Tanken.
What's my current HP?
I don't even know, since I have it hidden.
Everyone always asks that, and I don't show it.
I think it's around 13,000 with some basic buffs,
or maybe a little under.
I think it's like 13.4 with pre-stamina.
Everyone is so informed nowadays, so there's no mysteries left?
Well, that's exactly it.
Like, a lot of the fun at MMOs comes from the mystery of,
oh, I don't even know how good my spec is, or classes.
and uncovering the mystery is where the fun lies.
So in modern gaming culture, everyone knows
what the best comp is or what the best spec is
and there's no mystery anymore.
One of the few things these days
that I still really love about retail like a lot
is the fact that every new patch is a new mystery.
What's the best?
What's the best comp?
We have to figure this out.
Ooh, let me try this.
That doesn't work.
Let me try that.
That doesn't work.
Let me try this.
and well. I love the process of uncovering and that's the biggest thing retail has on classic.
That's the biggest thing it has, but it won't have it on classic plus. Classic plus will be
littered with discovery. That's my favorite part about it. Yeah. Indubitably, that's what retail has.
to
the pope just ran right by the seven stone and flew down
,
I love TBC playing with friends and family.
It's a very good time, very good time.
I just come to Zara's trap for the daily retail versus classic banter.
Yeah, it's gonna get real interesting when I'm playing retail in 10 days.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
It's gonna be real fun.
Oh yeah, it's gonna be real fun.
Oh man, it's gonna be real fun.
Guys, we'll find out who the real ones are real quick and run retail.
It's just gonna be like
Surely everyone here is gonna be an adult true. Yeah, surely
You gonna tank him in night I know I'm gonna play my mage
Yeah, go mage. I'm excited. I'm excited to play mage. I'm just I just wish it wasn't over TVC launch
I'm excited to play midnight. I just wish it was in like two months from now or like even even one
month from now like a month and a half from now like six more weeks like let me know like TVC a
a little longer blizzard
No one is gonna play midnight. Don't worry lol
Dude this might come as a shocker
But there are still way more people that play retail than classic.
Crazy.
It actually is kind of crazy to think about because I live in more of a classic bubble myself where all my friends play classic.
Everyone I know plays classic.
I don't even know that many people that play retail anymore.
So it kind of is a shocker.
But it is true.
of
what I what are the numbers that we do have for retail we have, um,
Because for classic we have like Ironforge Pro raid logging numbers.
For retail we have, what is it, Mythic Plus Dungeon Runs or something?
We don't necessarily have player count, but there's like another metric.
Is that Mythic Plus Dungeon Runs?
Like Raider IO, yeah.
So you can see like how many M-plus keys are being logged or whatever.
I'm curious to see them operating numbers.
Yeah, you know, let's take actually a quick look because I was curious too, especially
in the last week.
So mop rating numbers in the last week are 86,000.
Honestly, that's not bad.
I think it'll continue to go down, but 86,000 raiders in a week is not terrible.
It's really not.
How am I liking TBC so far? It's way better than I remember it. And this is really the
first TBC that I'm focused on PvE and I think that's why normally I just kind of
spam battlegrounds and get into arena so this is this is fun
Are you gonna mainly focus PvE? Yeah. I mean, I'm playing a prop, pal, so definitely. Yeah.
Knocked. Thanks for the T1 sub. Appreciate that, man.
I guess I'll pot it.
Dispel. What was that? Maybe I need to dispell the poison sooner. Mortal Strike.
Armageddon, thanks for the Prime. Nice name, bro.
and
hopefully the pee pee there is the plan is a lot of log off, and I will see what happens I feel like there's a lot of like
content on the horizons though you know
I'll see.
What's the opening rotation for threat?
I pre-seal Erychusness and pre-holy shield.
I snap threat with Judgement.
There's AOE or Consecration if not on this re-seal.
Seal Erychusness.
And then you just want to keep Holy Shield up on cooldown, Judgement on cooldown, Re-Sealer
and
the
welp left side handle it
Yeah, fluffy bunny. Thanks for the twitch bra
I need to be T-Cursed I think.
Mark my words in four weeks this stream is going to be M-plus pushing and TBC raid logging?
Yeah, I mean that's the plan, that's literally the plan.
But who knows, maybe I won't get into as much retail this time.
The last time Retail had a new expansion, I pushed Mythic Plus in the raid hard for three
months, I want to say.
This time, maybe I'll play for less.
I don't really know.
It just sucks to launch it with TBC.
But the plan is to push M-plus in Retail hard when it comes out, and if it sucks or
I'm not liking it or it's just not super hype, like to be honest, I won't, but that
That is the plan.
That's transparently the plan.
I'm not trying to like hide that or something.
I've been talking about that for six months.
Mark my words.
It's like, yup.
Mark my words in four weeks you'll be playing TBC with the boys again.
That could be a reality.
That would be like a less likely reality, but like, hey, maybe it may be right.
I'm trying to think if I should even aggro the ants or if I should take them further
back and ignore them.
I think ignoring ants is probably better.
So I actually did use a health bot there.
Need a health stone, I guess.
What are your expectations regarding Midnight and what do you see being pros and cons?
So I'm in kind of a cool position with Midnight where I'm less emotionally invested than
I have been in the past.
And what I mean by that is I'm more of an outsider, right?
I've been playing way more classic, way more hardcore,
way more mop, TBC, sod,
and hopefully classic plus coming up here soon.
So like the way I'm looking about retail is this.
If I play it and it sucks, that's fine.
I'll just play classic.
Cool.
If I play it and I'm having fun and it's hype
and it's exciting and we're gaming up,
also cool, something fun to do.
Sweet.
So it's a win-win.
If it sucks, then that's fine.
But what are my expectations?
I don't know.
We'll see.
So, one, every class having like zero spells is gonna feel, and two, how no add-ons is gonna feel, no combat add-ons.
Those are pretty big changes. Maybe it's gonna be great. Maybe it's gonna suck. Only time will tell.
So yeah, I feel like I'm a lot less emotionally
charged with it and way more just like, yeah, it is what it is.
Just play it. Have fun, cool. If not, we got TBC, hardcore,
4, Classic Plus hopefully, and Mop, like we just have other Classics.
Only things 3, exactly.
So yeah, that's my take.
I'm not like, oh I need this to be good.
Does the lack of add-ons affect gladiators in Rank 1s, or will they be even better,
or worse?
So that's like a really complicated question.
Yeah, we were talking about this in depth.
I think add-ons make the better players even better for the most part, and the reason I
think that is because players that are really good know how to leverage add-ons better,
and then, or maybe I said that backwards.
The players that are really good know how to leverage the add-ons better.
They know how to use them more.
But at the same time, they can do better without them.
Yeah, that's a really complicated question.
The way it interacts, I actually don't know
how it's going to interact.
The players that benefit from them the most
won't have them.
At the same time, though, they'll
be better off without them.
Yeah, I don't know.
How do you guys?
It's kind of a complicated one.
Kind of goes both ways.
Yay, Matt! Thanks so much for the Prime, dude.
It raises the floor and the roof, lowers the floor without them. Yeah, yes. A lot of interactions there.
Exactly! Exactly! So that's kinda how I feel, right? It's like, I'm enjoying classic so much that I don't need retail to be good. If it is good, I'm happy. Hey, man, great.
But if it's not good, like, we have other stuff to play. It's fine. It's fine if it's not good. Um, that's kinda how I'm feeling.
I wanted to be good, right? But we'll see.
No matter what though, I think I'll enjoy leveling to max. I think I'll enjoy pre-grinding pre-bis, because I like doing that.
And I think I'll enjoy doing the mythic, mythic plus. I like doing that.
And I do think I'll enjoy hopping into the raid for the first time. I like doing that.
So like, no matter what, I think I'll have like a baseline level of enjoyment there.
How are you in game we're locked in I don't know our servers down for some people
I'm looking forward to this R retail raves.
It should be a good time, yeah.
What keyboard do I use? I'm gonna get four even. I'm excited for the next race to world
first. Yeah, I'm a big race to world first guy in terms of just watching. Even when I
don't play retail, I like to watch. Like, even when I didn't PDE at all, I still like
to watch. I just like to watch, like it's just a fun event to follow. Even when I
only arena and it was still fun to watch like years ago
Yeah, flop jacks, next to the front brother.
Yo, craft on 60 strong, thanks for that 2-1 sub.
Oh, we have no lust.
Okay, so this guy knocks back.
There's a skull reflect too.
Looks like a heavy skull cleave group.
Our damage should be pretty high.
I have one stack of healing.
I can bubble stacks off, which maybe I shouldn't have wings.
Okay, so I have two stacks now
So I think I can actually kite it out a little on the knockback
Okay, nice the stacks actually recessed that's great
This is super easy what the heck it was way harder yesterday
Millennium Blade.
Thing looks kind of cool.
Oh, what the?
Where did all these come from? Is that from the boss that just happened? Never seen this before.
Huh.
There's a lot of mobs there.
I feel like those mobs are usually not there at all.
Beardge.
I used that transmog in retail, yeah, it's kind of sick.
Soulstone, yeah we can.
Will we see you get Gladiator and Arena again?
Bro, funny enough, I accidentally got Gladiator like a month ago on mob.
I didn't mean to I just did some viewer games for fun and students and some twos for content during a sponsored stream
And the season ended and we got glad year
So I didn't play towards the end of the season. I just played at the start of the season
So there we go. There's your glad eater content locked in what class you're gonna play in midnight mage. Definitely mage
Definitely mage
Apparently, one of my friends told me I was one game away from rank one, so like basically
at the start of mob, like that came out like three months ago or whatever, I got to number
one on the ladders and then I quit, I stopped playing mob, so I didn't play for like months
in a row and then the season ended and apparently I was one game off of rank one cutoff last
like a month ago I didn't even know that until the season ended he's like bro if
you played one game you would have been in rank one and I was like oh okay that
would have been nice to know I guess but all good
it was almost an accidental rank one in other words okay we can use a crown of
you can see here. Barely any player base. So rank 1 is usually harder when there's
low player base and you might ask why and the reason why is because rank one is a percentage
base title so if there's a bunch of people playing it's usually a little easier to get
the title than if there's not many people playing if there's not many people playing there's
only a few spots and it's much harder so one of the hardest seasons to get rank one
I think was like wild season and like some of these seasons were like not many people
we're playing which is kind of weird the way that works out yep that's the whole
point yeah exactly use wings more often I like to keep for baron soft cool down
unless like I I know I'm not gonna need it
It's because all the sweats still play but the casuals don't? Exactly, that's a better
way to say it. Rank 1 is harder to get when there's less people playing because all of
the sweaty players at the top are still playing but all the casuals quit. So there's like,
It's only like really good players basically, so yeah, anyway, that's usually how it goes.
I mean, you're a sweat and you stopped playing.
I mean, I'm not even like a sweat anymore.
I don't think I sweated mop around like this time around at all.
I was just kind of playing for fun or for sponsors or for whatever.
17, now this one's mine.
Bro just wasted 5 waters walking over there. So I wasn't wasting water, so if you spam waters while drinking, they actually tick up.
Which is really, really, really sick.
So, on this specific heroic, what you want to do is just spam water while running.
It's our nose to stress, yeah, yeah.
It doesn't work with food and water for some reason, only water.
That's why I had the mage give me glacial water and not mana biscuits.
So, look at my mana bar.
Look at my mana right now.
Look at my mana, bro.
Look at that.
for my team shaman shaman shaman oh my gosh an iron shield pot this and hellstone and shrink it
it's actually kind of troll i used everything instantly
Frenzy can we take off that frenzy? I don't know. Thanks baby. I'm gonna hold wings since
threats okay. Actually threat is kind of bad. I kind of want bubble just in case though.
Shrink shock and get rid of that I see I don't have the hunter for it whatever
I almost bubbled there, but it'll be okay
Yeah, should be fine belt belt belt belt belt belt
No belt pants. I think those are the ones poke needed
Maybe. Or maybe not. Yeah, I think those are the ones folk need it. Nice. Nice.
Hands.
The mage says once backward debating who it goes to.
Oh my gosh.
Good luck. Good luck on your debate spoke
So much rogue gear, I know it's always the rogue gear man
Yeah, drinking water is bugged right now.
It's not just on server ticks.
Look at that.
Even on non-server ticks, it instantly makes your mana go up when you drink it.
Normally you'd have to like drink walk on server ticks, but you don't even need to
That's not just how it is in TBC interesting. Yeah, I don't think it works like that in classic
Okay, so I need Arquitraz.
Who got the panther still deciding?
Oh my gosh, the moon can roll neat on it.
They're, they're shouting, I think they're in like discord shouting about it.
I don't know.
They both roll and poke, wins, grabs poke.
Big grabs to poke.
Um, it's the only thing I need is architras, but that's probably architras is hard of
this group since we don't have a hunter or like a priest.
If I like Mila, not a huge fan.
Shield or helm? I think I'm gonna get the helmet.
and
and I mean it depends if you haven't seen for a few days we're kitted up man
we're definitely getting there
where can you buy the honor bracers it's just in Stormwind City at like the the normal vendor
place like in a like by the rogue trainer
I think we're gonna do architras next
if anyone needs architras
I think we want a Hunter for Arcatraz for the Snake Trap.
I think we need a Hunter for Snake Trap
if any hunters want to come out.
I'm just gonna start flying there.
Hey, Fyce, thanks for the front.
Farahic Arcatraz, it's like a truck, this'll be good.
We did it yesterday and it was fine.
I think the hardest thing about arc is that last boss, man.
Okay, we got a hunter.
that
can't see if that's true it can heal it
or if we need a new healer
weird a lot of people are having issues huh
Hey Wood, thanks for the crime.
We might need a new healer if our I don't think our true it can get back on
The dead dang that's so random
What's the best healer for architras, oh
Archimage says he's down to heal. I have a good shaman
That can come
Do you want me to kick hype?
Let me see.
We're going to get Hype a second to log back on to see if you can get on.
If not, we're going to replace them.
I don't know how long the servers have been.
I'll be right back once that guy's going to throw this bowl in the kitchen.
I
Boys what back I I guess we can grab a new healer
He says okay kick him grab the new grab a new healer. All right, let's get Arkham a then
Hunter's almost here to
Let's do it. Let's do it
Do subs get ads nope?
Can you at least flag for PvP?
Yeah, I leveled, flagged up the whole way because I was like, let's spice things up
a little bit and make it a little interesting.
and
the game or hunter here
and
a critters things will prime stone cold things for the one
RIP Lambo, thanks for the prom.
We're taking anyone in the guild, yeah, but we're almost full.
Actually, we have like 40 spots.
Anyone in the guild can invite.
Probably don't whisper me though.
Pokeneed's a resummon.
Dreamcite best server?
Yeah, it's a vibe.
It is a vibe.
Can you show the gear?
Here you go, man.
I actually need the ring from here and the bracers from here.
So hopefully we can get it, man.
The bracers actually aren't that big of a deal.
better than mine but not like that much better. The ring though, ring is pretty sick. Elementium
Pandasensory. I wish I had time to play WoW like I used to years ago. Yeah we were just
talking about that the other day like that feeling of it's like Friday after school.
You're taking the bus home from school,
you're running home from the bus stop
and you open up the computer,
you crack open like a Mountain Dew,
gamer fuel or whatever, and you hop on wow
and it's like, all weekend long, bro.
It's just different, man.
It's just different.
I was in my 20s and while came out bro I was I was like 12
no girlfriend high school experience explain dude I was definitely married to the game
in high school man I was I was gaming up heavily
I
I'm just going to go back to the
into it with the M.A. stamp, I think boosting can also make sense.
Do I have a referral link for boosting nah?
What keyboard do you have all linked for you?
I love this thing man, I think it's great.
Yeah, group is locked in and tiled here.
Group is locked in and tiled, baby.
That keyboard is really nice.
I'm glad you like it, man.
I'm a big fan of it.
I'll link it in the chat if you want to check it out.
It's the Keychron.
I've been using it for like a year now.
Not sponsored, but they're great.
Do I get a new shield? If I do enough heroics, I'll get a new shield before Kara.
That second protean nightmare pulls, it's probably alive.
No, I have the wrong aura on.
That's my bubble cancel.
I haven't had any issues with the keyboard like blogging or anything like that at least
on my end.
Bracers are out. Yeah, it's at the vendor in the main cities
What do I like about the keyboard I like the sound there the keys are very creamy if you're a keyboard connoisseur
You know what I'm talking about when I say creamy keys versus clicky or clacky or talky. I like I like creamy and
and
Has it broken on me I like that that's 84 keys. I like to look at it
I like the wood grain on the side. There's a lot of like about this board
I don't know how you level this prod. I find it painful. I did a lot of dungeons at the
start and then as I played more I did questing but I did like AoE grinding while questing
so basically I would just pull like five mobs AoE grind everything down kind of a deal
And I thought it was pretty fun.
I don't think I like Prott leveling as much as some other classes, like a road or a mage or something, but like it was alright.
Did I get Stormcaller yet? I don't know what that is, so I guess not.
What's that sightless eye?
Oh crap, what are these things?
What speck is poke? He's a fliction it looks like? Actually, I don't know what speck poke is. More locks, more locks. What speck is poke?
He's Destro slash demonic sack.
shadow. I don't know if you can shrink shot that thing, but...
It's just heroic, yeah.
What shield?
I still have face of death from Naxxrammas.
Still like tanking?
I'm liking it more now that I have more gear.
is one of those things that's like way more fun when you have gear. When I have no gear I feel
useless and pathetic and when I have gear I'm like yeah try to kill me then see what happens
you know what I mean? It's pretty sick. Like now that I have gear it's a lot of fun.
That's every class. I think it's more so with a tank though. A tank without gear is just like
bro you're pathetic. Okay the reason why I was thinking about this before bed last night.
it. Tanks are a class where the gear is very binary. You either have the break point or
you don't. That's it. Whereas DPS, you slowly get more DPS, but it's either you have the
defense or the avoidance or you don't with the tank. So once you get to the point of
No return, it's like, alright, I'm a tank now.
You know, it's great.
I don't think I need to stone shield this
since a lot of the damage is shadow.
I guess I'll get to a point to res
because I have soul stone
Um, were they not far enough to get to be max range?
I'm trying to remember.
Oh, was it the mobs?
Isn't it clear or...?
Oh, did the seat of corruption reflect? They all got killed by seat of corruption for 2.9k.
Oh crap, you know big heels on me. Yeah, I don't think that would I grow
I
Kind of think what we do different
It was like a 2k overkill.
Seat of corruption.
The Shadow Nova we can eat, the Seat of Corruption killed us.
Do Ranged have to spread?
Oh, maybe Ranged spread.
I think I can also tank the boss on this pillar here.
And then everyone can fight it like here.
And when the Shadow Nova comes, they can just shh like that.
Healer should dispel seeds.
I'll try to dispel seeds.
I don't know if Shaman can.
I'll try to dispel if I see it, too.
Oh, you can't dispel.
That's why I was gonna say, I don't think I saw it.
Okay, well, we did not deal with dying here yesterday at all.
I think maybe we just stacked.
Maybe the range have to spread more.
So I think that's it.
Okay, we have like full buffs.
Hopefully we're fine now.
Okay, hopefully that's enough of a spread.
Alright, here we go.
I might be max-distancing the healer, this looks fine.
I'm going to put it here because I think that corner bugs out.
Nova, nothing to dispel.
So that actually did work out fine. No one got one shot at least.
The mage just stood in the circle and died. Nice. His name is Circle Square.
Huh.
I'm trying to think what we're doing wrong here.
Don't know.
Maybe the healer was in the wrong spot.
he wasn't in the pocket
seed of corruption 2.8 melee 4.4
this will be fun on hardcore pro no way i'm doing heroics on hardcore
normals only dude
I'm trying to think of what we did differently yesterday. We just ran in one shot this boss I
Don't I don't know the shadow priest
I had a shadow priest yesterday
The priest had a shadow resistance aura or a shadow resist buff. I mean I'm running shadow resistance or anyway
maybe they were out of range of it or something
I'm a sub thanks for the T1 sub
Um, oh, maybe just building the seat is bad and maybe it's blowing up and killing us.
I don't, I don't know.
I'm trying to think with this group, maybe we try tank stair strat.
We can try tanking near stairs.
you guys can LOS NOVA since you're just getting one shot I think that's what we
try it's definitely a we take it take in your stairs
I'll tank right here
You guys LOS here
So cast here on Nova just go like this home
And then back it's fast so be ready
I think that should work, hopefully.
Um, okay, let's get some more food buff.
I haven't done the line of sight strap but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
You guys think that's a good idea?
I feel like it would be great.
Tank it like Resuvius, so the healer never
has to move, and only the DPS move.
I'm trying to think where healers stand on Resuvius.
Oh, I could put the boss like here.
I could take the boss, I could put the boss like here and I stand here and then the healer
is there and then the DPS are in and out.
Yeah, that's how Resuvius is tanked, right?
I could try that.
I could also try to tank here, so Archimea never has to move.
Although the boss does a knockback.
The boss does a knockback, so right after the knockback I would have to get him back
back in position.
I think I'm just going to keep it simple.
Okay, I'm trying to think if I want to, if I tank here I'm going to get knocked back
And then I need to get him back into position.
Which I can do.
Yeah, I guess I'll just take him there.
Should be good positioning
Shadanova that worked I got knocked I'll get it back to the spot in a sec here. I
Should be perfect again
Wow, I mean that just works. This is the strat
Resuvius, baby
Donso
GG
Nice that works way better
I mean we also lost it, but like that spot is sick
No one got hit dude
Oh my gosh
So this sentinel slabs, is this heroic, yeah.
The best seal for Pallet tanking and seal of righteousness, like for the most part.
Don't stand on there.
Not going for Librum. I already have Librum. King's River Sank? Yep. Sila Marder has good
snap threat. I don't know if it's worth it. Race drop off Last Boss. Hopefully, that's
what we're here for. I think we could probably skip that one in the corner, huh? And I think
These can only pull one at a time.
Okay, so I actually, game production wholly,
kind of screwed myself.
Doesn't matter.
Threat's still so good.
I don't know if this doesn't work on Threat or what,
but Threat's still fine.
What aura? I'm using Sanctity Aura.
upgrade I need is... actually it was my bracers but I just got new bracers that
are kind of decent from the PvP vendor. I don't really need anything. The biggest
thing I need to be more avoidant so I guess the helmet from Badges, the
belt from Black Marass is good, the helmet from Badges, the shield from
Badges the ring from this place is actually pretty good, too
The ring from this place. I guess the ring from this place might be my biggest upgrade still
on ironically
Just the blue ring
I don't think I'm gonna go for the shatar exalted shield. It's just like I
Don't know
Like my rep with shatar is like only 5k in the revered. I don't know if I feel like farming that
How many badges? I have 36 and I get the helmet 50 so I was gonna go for it today. We
just need to basically live in heroics today. We've already done, I think this is our third
heroic already today. That's like eight more botanicas. Is it only eight? Botanicas
are like 6k rep or 2k rep per.
The thing is, I actually do, okay I was actually thinking about this in the shower this morning,
I do need the Arquitra's ring.
So what I could do is spam Arquitra's until I get the ring.
If I don't get it until like my fifth run, hey, we're almost exalted anyway.
Just send the exalted.
You know what I mean?
Like, I need the ring.
I could just do normal architrases.
Anyway.
There it is.
I've always been a mage too.
Now we're up on the Paladin.
Can we stun or tank this?
Or stun her?
Nah, you can't.
Banking on a shield that might not drop is insane.
It's 100%, it's, you buy it from RAP, bro.
Uh, you just buy from the vendor.
Oh, oh, I see what you're saying.
You're saying someone in the, you're applying to someone in the chat that said,
just wait for the cruel shield.
And you're like, bro, that's not happening.
Yeah.
Now I agree.
This thing is sick, but it probably doesn't drop forever.
What if the vendor doesn't want to give it to you?
That's true, man.
why king's over saying her how it's it's all about like total life or not all of
about total life you need defense too, but total life usually beats damage reduction,
so like an extra 80 off of each attack versus 10% more stats, it's just better for heroics
Just have Kings.
We can just max range this I think
I'm not going to see here.
is just fine. Ah, keep your talents. Why not use the Avenger Shield? I don't run it.
I've sank to the aura instead. King saved me right there, true. Probably.
You said not judging is intentional, but why not mana judge?
I think if I am gonna judge on fights that are longer than like 30 seconds-ish 2030,
Seal of Crusader is gonna be gonna be what I should go for.
I can only do one.
and
get buckling buckles
crap I have spotted
in a bubble and then cancel
the might healer a couple seconds on the year
This room without a hunter?
Ooh, wait we do have a hunter.
Hey, Zahra, I love the content, like your mind said, good job.
Thank you, Brogote.
Yo, what up, Rasta?
How's it going, old Rasta?
You going up Rasta? How's it going? Oh, Rasta.
The hunter went to go flare and just gets one shot.
Okay, greater invisibility bro poke
this ability OP what are we holding out on what are we holding out for
of
of the
It's a somewhat slow charge so you can just move
But be ready to not get hit by charge
Hunter stand far to bait it forgot to say that I think Hunter can bait it so I think
it's on far target I didn't even see it was on someone that was on me nice that actually
own, see if it's on me it's not a problem at all.
It's on Mage, get ready Mr. Mage.
Nice.
Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
Expected after the circle debacle. Oh my gosh
He always knocks back before charging so if everyone stays close, it'll always be you
I mean he charged me first and I was definitely not the far one so I don't think it works that way I
I was the closest one he still charged me which I thought was weird. I thought it was but guess not
of the
only a case here kicks here very important
to the heel
it's called he'll
That's the thing about Pali tank dude no kick we just gotta trust the team we got a lock in we got a dial
Get to the tombster it's fine
Shadowies fun
Dude look at that threat man 40k threat like okay
I'm going back in. Heal, heal, heal. Kick, kick, kick. Nice!
Very nice.
Very, very nice team.
What is this? Thottia's self-correcting gauntlets.
I think those kind of suck compared to Felsteel.
less armor less stamina once you count for the sockets less defense block values
yeah I think those are kind of bad okay
Yeah.
Wind Sporegar shield, the shield from this place,
like Shitar Exalted is pretty, pretty lit.
I always go the wrong way here every time.
All right, boys, we need the ring off last boss.
We need the ring.
We have no loss for six minutes, so I think we might have it back though I
Need 12 more patches today, and then we get that helmet dude
Crap I'm a boom I didn't even notice I was in
Here's the loading.
The finger?
Yep.
This is the thing I need here.
Elementium Band of the Century.
Basically free 19 Dodge over my ring of the Silverhand.
I lose to Int and MP5, but we get Stamina and Dodge.
Very nice.
I technically could probably hit avoidance cap without it
and just put on like a damn it,
like scenario ring of casting or something,
like a DPS ring.
I'll have to do some math at some point.
some point yeah I think I might use this scenario in a ring of casting 24 stamina
is actually a good amount of stamina man I would hate to heal a heroic man healing
Heroics looks miserable. Look at my life bar, bro. I'm spikin
All right, here we go we're locked in we're dialed
One miss gcd can end it real quick. Yeah, you got to see like on top of it if you're a healer, dude
You have to stay locked in the entire time
Archimage says I'm a mythic plus healer, so this is nothing new true
Yep
Yeah, being a healer in general, very high stress, just looking at health bars all day
and they're spiking.
I've actually never healed a mythic blast, that seems brutal.
5s for points win. Do 5s still get more points than 2s? Did they keep that in?
That's a good off-hand. Oh, that is a good off-hand.
Nice.
Healing in M-plus is different because you have to DPS here.
You pretty much can't DPS.
Very true, very true.
Three from fives are changed to give the same.
Okay, so you just don't want to do twos, then.
Are you gonna play fives? I don't plan to nah. I was maybe gonna do some twos with Savics or something
I think that could be fun except my I did not farm any like PvP gear so my my whole like
Set is literal tanking gear
So I don't know if it's gonna be troll or not. We'll have to figure it out
Bubble cancel there to not die.
I would assume these servers were going to evolve to Rathen the Lich King.
I would be shocked if they didn't.
So maybe one day, this character will tank the Lich King.
That'd be sick.
Who knows?
Dude, it's crazy how close hunters can shoot from now.
I think Fire Resort is probably worth it here.
Chain Heal Hype.
All right, it's final boss is where this place gets real tricky
We have some really strong DPS players though circles and poke are pumping we have the honor for the
For the snake trap as well
We have Archimai for the chain heels
Bro Archimage, you just got one deeg man.
What was that?
100 to 0 in one charge.
How much life do you have?
4.1k.
Yeah, I mean he just got rocked.
Hunter should be charged. Oh, it's far charged. Okay.
of
I feel like we're missing someone.
We're missing someone?
Oh no, they're gonna know, it's just right under me.
I guess I should go fire ore on this.
Dude, look at that healing, bro.
That is a brutal.
Okay, we'll try Hunter Max Range here.
See if that works.
I hit 2.5k HPS on the bobs this morning. They're no joke. Yeah, that's wild, man
Yeah, it does it does go on the farm for player there unless it was just a little bit of luck
The hunter evaded it and got one shot.
it oh my gosh okay okay this one is like three mini bosses into big boy long
Lost on big boy all all mark the kill target with skull when he splits you can still see
skull can cleave the other one so it dies.
Hunter keeps snakes down 100% of the time on last boss.
Just spam them.
I'm trying to get from missing anything here.
Focus the unmarked 1TBH, oh maybe you're right, to kill it sooner.
Okay, good coms.
Can focus unmarked boss so it dies sooner so real one is just one on me.
Yeah, that's actually pretty smart.
Oh, yeah, we can we can drink between poles here too. So spam, drink and eat to help healer
All right
What snake trap do the snake trap helps with the mind play I
Can try to freedom in the mind play as well
If it goes on someone I'm gonna try to freedom it.
Do I downrank anything? Consecration.
Come on, bracers! Come on, ring! Actually I don't even really care about the
bracers. Just give me the ring, Blizzard. Give me the ring. Blizzard, give me that
ring was it the face hunter yesterday or is this a different mob
Yeah, yeah, I was an imp yesterday for sure
They changed daily, okay
Wait, should Targ salt it as a ring?
I'll have to take a look at that.
Alright, we can drink.
Drink drink drink drink.
We had Bracers and a ring drop yesterday?
No shot.
That's the dream.
Oh, this ring sucks though.
What is this?
A lowly gnome?
Don't know if I need to face this guy away, but I'll try
Nice purge by the way insta purge nice, so we're talking about or camea or that was someone else things probably are coming
Wow very nice guys
It's like the BWL dudes.
Skystorm, thanks for the prom.
What talents am I using?
I'm actually going for Sanctity Aura.
no avenger shield. Yeah, lock it in and dial it.
house pod
Hopefully those snakes work, I think they will.
This RP is great.
Did they just kill some?
Okay, looks like snakes did work.
Here on the Viper, nice.
Here on the...
Other thing, nice.
Another mine around on the Viper, nice.
Okay, we can kill the unmarked one real quick.
Here on Kevin, Nanna burn on Milhouse.
Let's get re-snakes down, I think he already got it.
Mine ran down the healer.
I freed him, it did not work.
That sucks.
He rose up.
He just died 100 to 0.
The freedom didn't work.
Mmm, I mana plotted.
Oh, I got a flush heal!
Man, it's still, he died through the heal!
I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
It's called a fear.
Minor on Kevin.
We lock in and dial, boys.
We lock in and dial.
So we do kill, kill, kill, kill, kill.
Minor on the snake.
We just have to finish.
Finish.
Nice.
Easy club.
Oh! Bracers dropped, man!
Crap, maybe I shouldn't have bought these.
Ha ha ha, man.
Alright, alright, I mean...
There are more defense.
I lose Crib, but I'm gaining defense.
And more Stam.
Not bad.
Definitely not bad.
Well, we got to re-enchant the bracers.
I think these are bis for the entire phase, bracers of dignity.
My avoidance is at 61.8, with these on they go to 61.9, but they're not enchanted yet,
so I get 12 more defense on the enchant.
So it'll get to me like 62.5 or something.
Nice, that was brutal.
That was also the daily heroics, so I get two more patches.
We're from 39 to 41
Can I can we get poor I
Don't know how to keep my shaman alive. He dies 100 to 0 in a mind play
I don't know what the actual mechanic is. Maybe it's something along the lines of
Healers need to put on more stamina gear
Sack him I
Don't know if the sack would have helped I tried freedom and I tried flash heal
Both of them didn't work.
I'm gonna go get... I'm gonna buy an Enchant.
Want to buy plus 12 defense to Bracers.
Shadow Resistance Aura?
Okay, I could try Shadow Resistance Aura because it's minor end, huh? It's Shadow damage on minor end.
Maybe that keeps him alive. I could try that.
I don't think grounding works.
and
for this inch out
can land hands be cast on friends yeah but it's once an hour to kill them twice
so shaman grounding grinding doesn't work
I was so close to that helmet boys few more heroics were there
The spell does a hundred percent of your life regardless.
How do you not die then?
So I'm at 62.7 avoidance.
It's almost an entire one percent avoidance from these and more stamina.
I mean that's nice.
And when I put this on we're at 66.8.
Then I'm at 102.1.
102.1 avoidance, boys.
What the hell met we're locked in?
What the hell met I might be so locked in
that I could start putting on some more spell power?
I'll probably replace this ring.
Yo, Sandy, thanks for the brunt.
Um, you guys want ramps?
I mean, I'm down for ramps.
It's super easy, super fast.
Yeah, I'm here.
Down.
Okay, we need a new healer.
Our healer had to go.
,
everyone's down for ramps school
, when you look at shaman were like a priest or like a true it are like a
I
Was safety wants to come was he the one yesterday
I was sick, okay, we have a good priest so be thanks for the prom
Did you enchant those the defense instead of stamina I did get defense yeah
I need the defense though more than the stem right now because I'm not at avoidance cap yet
Beanie bag, thanks for the prom.
D'Walsh, thanks for the T1.
Zara not gonna like getting rid of button blow in retail, I'll just be more excited to
try retail.
Oh yeah, for sure.
I think it'll be good, man.
I think...
Well, heck, I don't know if it'll be good, but I think it'll be worth trying, I think
it'll be worth messing around with, right?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Um, do we just lose our mage for a moonkin named La Fonda?
What happened?
Oh, someone came.
Did Circle just get kicked for La Fonda?
Oh, he was just...
La Fonda was helping summon. Oh thanks La Fonda.
I thought we just kicked our mage for a moonkin or something. I'm like I don't know what's going on.
Okay sick.
So from here...
I
Got the bracers
Oh, he wants me to DE these here we go
From here the only thing I need is the ring from Arcatraz or just more badges for that helmet
But we are blasting today. We're like four heroics in
this is crazy talk
what item I am I going for next so I'm going to go for the helmet from badges were very close we need to think
I have two more 30 I'm at 41 3 from this will be like 44
couple more heroics after this and we have it
and I'll show you what it is it is
This guy here face guard of the termination
Yeah, I
Think I still need to enchant it with the defense dodge enchant just cuz my avoidance is a little lower than it needs to be
not worth I mean this that helmet bro is this for the whole phase or at least pretty much
close to this for the whole phase so not worth 50 badges I mean guys I'll be using it probably
the whole phase if I get lucky with a tier 4 helm sure the tier 4 is better but or like kind of a
sidegrade, but yeah. If, exactly, if it drops.
The reason I'm getting the helm is because I need it for my avoidance cap for Kara.
cruels and mags to not die. That's like the big reason I'm grabbing the helmet.
Once I get that helm we're at avoidance gap and we're just very tanky.
Like I could go for icon of the silver crescent which is more damage but I
can't afford to use it yet since I need to I need the avoidance but once
Once I get better gear I can.
Yeah I'm only 15k rep off of the Shitar Shield, which I might farm, but I'm like not looking
forward to farming that.
I don't know.
I'm really not looking forward to farming Exalted Shitar.
That sounds miserable.
Shitar is easy.
Why is Shitar easy?
It's like just spamming bots is just kind of cake.
Bot is OP.
run away I don't know I don't know I don't know why I don't want to farm exaltive
I'm like not that far off
Maybe I will we'll see
I need the ring I think
I think... I think I need the ring from Arc. Actually, do I need the ring from Arc?
We'll see. After I get the helm, I might not need that ring from Arc.
I might wear scenario ring of casting instead.
Actually, I don't know. We'll make our decision after we get the helmet.
Once we get the helmet, it's like, alright, what are we doing next year?
This scenario in Exalted Ring is nice.
Can you just buy scenario in Exalted with uh, what are they called?
Armament things?
I got the Libra Martia.
What are you gonna hear?
Nothing.
Just badges.
You can buy it with coil thing armaments.
That sounds kind of a lot nicer.
That sounds way nicer.
Using the scenario ring plus the helm.
That sounds really nice, guys.
what's my rep with scenario dude I'm halfway through revered with scenario and I could
still do like two more heroics today. Let me take a look at that ring real quick.
Factions, Cenarion, it's this thing. Dude! Hit! Damage! Stamina!
Bro, we might have to go for Asian's Gift. We go for that ring and then we just get
the other shield. We might have to go for that.
Oh dude, Curse of Tongue's poke! I like that poke! Tongue's OP, nice poke.
That was really good. I have two shield options. I can go for Exalted Shatar and get the
Exalted Shitar Shield or I can grind 33 more badges of justice and I just get the bad shield
To me farming heroic sounds more fun
Than spamming bot but it would technically take longer and the shield is technically worse
Exalted is much faster. Yeah
We just we just pulled that. Oh wow. Oh wait. No not wow
Dude we double pulled this is fine. I just need slows
Actually, you can't slow raveners.
Oh yeah, this is fine.
I just need slows.
Yeah, this is fine.
Heroics are also better content.
That's what I'm saying.
Guys, 33 heroic badges I can farm in one day.
Is that true?
That's not really true, huh?
I guess that's like a day and a half.
I get day and a half. I can get it.
Usually I just use seal of righteousness for trash for bosses. I should we even
seal a crusader on the second judge. Honorhold Exalted Sword. Hmm, what's my
honorhold at? Oh bro my honorhold is actually close to exalted. Oh I didn't
See that guys my honor hole is right there
See that's what's kind of nice about doing all the heroics every day, so you kind of just get full exalted on accident I
Think I just want to do all the heroics every day and just accidentally get it
Because we're close man
if we do
If we do shattered hulls and blood furnace today
and then do all of them tomorrow, we get on or hold exalted
on accident without farming it at all. Just from doing heroics every day.
And then that weapon is cracked too. That's how it's meant to be TBH. Right, right.
Kind of just want to keep doing that.
Is that new blood furnace?
Not today yet.
We could probably do blood furnace after this.
Or shattered hulls after this.
just for the lulls.
My ravenor is going to pull, that's going to be brutal.
It's fine.
I love having gear.
Dude, having gear is so fun, man.
Oh my gosh.
The macro in one is just auto attack.
You can find all my macros in discord.
Whenever you feel like you can't farm that rev, just look at this beauty.
It can be yours in 80s.
He runs.
Dude, it just looks terrible.
I hate how this looks! Look at that!
Terrible looking shield.
There's a chest to the right, yeah, it comes.
I like the badge one way better. The badge shield looks sick.
That's another reason I'm like, bro, if I just do heroics every day,
before Kara I'm gonna be exalted with like scenario and honor hold on accident
I can buy the ring I can buy the weapon and I'll also have enough badges to buy
the shield we just we could literally just live in heroics and never have to
think about it I think
The thing about heroics is they're like fun, right?
They're way more interactive and engaging.
You get, you make more gold, you get better loot, disenchanting, you get better rep, spamming
normals is just like, oh my brain.
and we have a ravener coming in
the ravener might be the hardest hitting mob in all of heroics is anything
hit harder than a ravener that thing is insane dude the dogs in shattered halls
that yeah the non-elite ones yeah maybe you're right maybe those dogs do you
hit a little harder I feel like raveners just go crazy though man
Yeah, I don't know.
I think I'm leaning towards just doing heavy heroics today, tomorrow, and Thursday before
the raid.
We have like three more days after just heavy heroics.
We just do as many as we can every day.
That should automatically get me exalted with Honor Hold, and it should automatically
get me exalted with scenario which means I can get the best and I should have
enough to buy the shields I should I should get that ring the weapon the
shield and the helm which would mean we are pretty much literal pest in slot for
everything
three more three more days Tuesday Wednesday Thursday I guess today's a
halfway over. In Thursday it'll be like a half day.
The sword is worse. There's no way to honor a whole sword is worse than this one. There's
There's no way, I don't believe it.
Oh, it's waiting on here.
I lose 8 spell hit, which does suck, and I lose 20 stamina, which does suck.
Yeah, maybe it isn't even that much better.
Losing 20 stamina kind of sucks.
17 stamina and hit to gain spell power crit.
It's actually not as...
It's not a big deal, I guess.
Your current sword is higher on the Bist list, really?
Lower city mace is this?
The lower city mace?
Guys, I've been trying to not really talk about this.
Don't shame me, please.
Look at my lower city rep, guys.
Friendly.
Yeah.
I don't want to talk about it.
You guys can stay down there.
Shame on you.
What what do you mean that's messed up guys? What do you mean? I don't need deer from there
What am I supposed to do get a tune to a place? I don't need deer from like come on
I think we got to try all the rippers that thing owns I had a bubble can.
cancel that real quick.
Is it just me or are they doing crazy DPS?
The heroics are wild.
Your favorite dungeon with shadow labs, huh?
Likely story.
Dude, I've only done shadow labs once for the attuned
and that's literal it.
It is pretty sick though.
I like slabs.
Just haven't been in there.
No, you want to play Kingsburg Barrier for Heroics.
Did I turn on my daily?
Not yet.
I'll turn it in after this.
So we still need Steam Falls?
How do you balance work, game, fitness, family?
I'm very, very blessed to say that for me, gaming is work, which is a crazy sentence to even say.
So that helps.
I just kind of stick to my schedule.
I'm gaming during the day, family time at night kind of a thing, you know?
Fitness.
I am training Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, or Wednesday.
I'm training at home.
You know, fitness, I am training Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday right now with walks on off days, so I'm just kind of laying out the schedule, you know what I'm saying?
Snoozing, thanks for the front.
Why don't you have any mana issue without Wisdom?
Uh, I'm getting healed a lot and I'm like drinking between each pole.
Yeah, you can't really run Wisdom unless you have someone else doing Wisdom for you.
All my items are in Discord if you want to see it.
The CD's near the party frame, so that's weak aura.
I'm using weak aura for that, and that's in the discord as well.
The lower city mace is sick, and there's no way I'm getting exalted with lower city.
Does anyone know how much gold it is to buy exalted with scenario?
I'm like halfway through revered already like like just basically how like 12,000 rep or something
I feel like it wouldn't be that expensive laser thanks for the prom
It's like 500 Gs might have to send something like that. We'll see
Yo w5 gifted. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
I mean, yeah, I can get it anyway without buying it if I wait an extra day
Or two
So maybe I should actually just wait an extra day or two
We had slave pens already today, but we have steam vaults and then underbog
My scenario in circle I'm 8500 a rep away
But we have two more to do today and we can do all three tomorrow
No, I probably will have to buy a little bit if I want it for Kara at least
This is actually pretty bad we don't have a good slow or anything here we go
It's scenario expedition not circle. Oh, am I looking at the wrong one? Oh my gosh, I am
Heck, I'm actually like the same rep on both of them. It doesn't matter. But yeah
The PvP neck, I don't know if I can drop untamed. Untamed is a really good neck
Am I running Kara with Amp and Savix?
Not Kara, maybe Gruels, but I think it might just be separate.
Kara, there's only 10 matters, so we have to split up to try to get more raids for the
guild.
And then for Gruels and Mags, I was thinking maybe we could go together, but it also might
be good to split up to get more groups for the guild.
Yo, Vinblad, thanks for the prom.
I don't really plan to do arena on the Pali, I was maybe going to, I mean we'll see, it's
maybe going to do like prop Pali arenas just to see what's good but I'm not really prioritizing
it at all.
I'm not sure if I'm going to
drive the change has done not a change has to my bank, I can put it on for extra minute if I need it, I don't think I'm gonna need it
spread apart here
Yeah, our damage is cracked.
Damage is so cracked.
Hey, but at Bryson, is the shield in lower city dungeons
It's not better. I don't think so.
Simple classic throat plates. It's in my discord for the add-on.
That's represented here is another add-on called modern target frame.
Are you gonna get the shield from Kruls?
I hope so.
I hope it drops.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens, man.
Maybe the dream.
Who knows?
Or not.
Who knows?
The midnight angle is to play midnight,
but I'm still still a little upset that we have to put a pause on TBC.
Who's looking forward to DST trauma?
What class gets DST first?
Is that the trauma?
Hunter gets hit first.
Rogue?
Ah!
Ah, you might be dead, brother.
Nice.
He survived until next time.
This is why I don't really like using Crusader too much.
Like when I use Crusader this happens where I like I lose the guy just need the snap threat
Who's loading
Stamina rezil I would I would I would put that in a PvP socket
I don't know what I'm saying here, but it's not that good of a gem.
I'd throw it in a PvP piece.
Sure, I'll roll first, you poke.
Oh, poke cost. Okay.
Resil's also for tanks. Resil does work for tanks, but it's not that good of a gem. It would only be for like arena, I think
Six damn five resail. I don't think it'd be worth
Wanted to
Any others?
Yeah
We could do blood furnace or SH
what's AC I'm not attuned for AC law my whole group is shaming me bro oh my
gosh oh no bro it happens man it happens how close are you I'm currently
friendly with lower-city casual
elevator dude friendlies crazy bro
That's it's nuts. I don't need anything except marks. I need SHBF, uh, underbog, uh, shh,
what else, steam vaults,
All Hills Brad.
What else do we need?
Oh, Mac.
Bot.
Any of those work for me?
Ah, there we go.
I want to see Blood Furnace so bad. I mean we're right here if we want to go to Blood Furnace.
Right here if we want to do BF.
Good group for it too.
Lock Mage Hunter.
Do you need blood furnace? Are you? Yes, BF equals blood furnace
Let's do it
Blood furnace should be fun
Everyone's down for blood furnace are
I got two batches of justice for this quest.
So I'll be at 44.
I'm at 44 batches right now, guys.
We need blood furnace and one more, and we get the brand new helmet, dude.
Let's go.
Two dungeons off new helm.
Hype.
Bro, I love, I was actually talking to a real life friend about this.
I love how in TBC, you know when you're going to get an upgrade with the badge system.
You know I'm at this many batches.
I can play for this many hours this day and I know when I'm going to get my next piece
of gear.
I love that.
It feels just so fun and rewarding.
I woke up this morning knowing I'm getting my helm today if I grind it.
It's nice.
Very nice.
feels good. Feels rewarding. Feels like I worked for this, but in the time, kind of just like
the Thunder Fury, you know? You just get both halves. Build it up. Yeah, first it's like
a random box. Random chest that you open. It's like, alright. Yo, like it. Thanks for
the
looks like I don't
looks like we don't
I don't have it.
Nothing beats the dopamine of an unopened box.
See, I don't know if I agree there.
Man.
I agree that you get dopamine from it, but I don't know if I like the game design?
I said disconnect by jumping into a corner at just the wrong angle.
Unable to log in.
G.G. have to start over, level one.
Hmm.
Wow.
Oh.
Okay.
Okay, need 100% uptime on slow traps or blizz.
All dungeon-long.
I hate
The honor hold weapon I don't think is this because that's not that much stamina on him in
This trash smacks yeah, it does these guys going dumb hard
I don't know, man, I don't know what that was.
I
Know I don't know
What's the best main hand apparently
the best main hand is
The lower city mace 24 stamina. I
Don't know man. Yeah. Yeah lower city mace is it what's actual best
But I like this one a lot that's a lot of stamina and the spellhead like this thing owns like it's fun
show us the helm you're getting two more dungeon runs maybe three I think two more though
and we're getting
oh yeah where is it dude
collections badge helm
this guy right here
A start of determination.
Then it's kind of lit.
We'll have to decide what metasocket to put in there.
A lot of people put in spell damage, but I might...
I don't know. I'll have to figure out the math on the metasocket.
I don't know what metasocket I'm going to put in there yet.
I might put the defense one in.
Just because week one, I think it's more about defense.
Do the Stam and stun resist? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking Stam and stun resist too. A lot of people do the other one, but...
HAAAAAAA!
Dude, these guys thrash, what is that man?
Adepts are so annoying, he triple hit me from one mob.
one shot me from a thrash. I think I'm just going to not get hit by these mobs but I think
they have that one. If I get hit here, I might just get one shot. Let's see. Nope. Nice.
I don't even tank the ad-hubs. I just let my group kite it. Yeah, same. The ad-hubs
just kind of one shot, so. Yeah, almost just got one shot by getting hit once.
I
Stream dropped yo youtubers and stream fall off or is that I think it's back up now
With a six second dropout
Did it drop it all for YouTube?
Not a curiosity?
Yes it did also on YouTube.
Okay, so that wasn't my end.
Oh.
I'm lagging.
Can you guys hear me? I feel like my stream is actually up. The stream is up and wow is
down. You guys can, yeah, I'm not dropping any frames now that my wow crashed.
Aw.
Did anyone else DC from WoW?
You we couldn't log you in the battle dot net
What does that mean?
Oh nice we're back now I think
Locked it in tiled let's go
He has our daily 70 for 50 down
Oh, no, devastate, thanks for the T1 sub man
Slashroll 94
Oh, healer is not here.
Um, mum, mum, mum, mum, mum, mum, mum.
Okay.
There's no way that warlock bulls right?
Yeah, we're chillin'.
Double adept.
That imp should line for the warlock.
Adepts nice thrash bro.
Well those atoms are hilarious man.
They literally are just one league dude.
I think we have to pull this lock.
Hunter, can you pull lock when it pats at end?
Great.
There should be fine.
Oh, I can grab it.
Double adept pipe.
of the
the trash is crazy. Yeah, I don't mind that this trash all that much. I mean, the adept are pretty tricky. But what I
my mind is the second boss dude is the hard one I think the problem of the second boss
is you can't slow anything and it one shots some fancy moves there sir thank you nappy thank
you thank you very much
kind of funny how you're taking her out so that getting hit I mean it's just kind of
what you have to do right there's no alternative like you kind of have to have to do this
MCB input lock? Yeah, yeah, that's why he has it, uh, mind control right now.
Are you defense capped? Yeah.
How do you do it as a warrior? You can do the same thing as a warrior,
but it's a little harder to keep threat, or a lot harder to keep threat.
But you can still do the slow trap, kind of weave and bob kind of a deal.
I do this on warrior and I'm fine. Yeah. Yeah
Cool
Am I grinding anything specific just marks for the helmet?
If you have a hundred percent avoidance, they still hit hard. Oh, yeah. Yeah avoidance has nothing to do with that really
Which is funny
Episode 2, so no spoilers, but uh...
I will say Episode 2 seemed better than Episode 1.
It's kind of getting into the plot.
Plot thickens a little bit.
I'm not upset about it, but we're only two episodes in, so we'll see what's good.
I heard it gets better as time goes on.
I'm going to look away from the chat for a minute, so...
Yeah, but I'm hearing that's what we're hearing.
I miss the trap. It's kind of my fault. We can just blast it, add up, and then kill
the casters when they get close.
got silenced
Thunderfiery replaced, yeah, it's a little sadge
This room is my least favorite room actually this room and the next hallway both kind of
suck definitely not a big fan but we'll get through it together did I vendor Thunderfury
no bro it's right here Locking dialed Sir Arlam gets a Thunderfury thanks guys nice
this.
10 subs to vendor thunder fury dude no shot I love my thunder fury
I almost just died tanking these for like one second dies.
That threat meter is threat classic too.
How much Savik's do you watch?
I like watching Savik's, but the problem is he's live basically the same hour as I'm
live so I don't get to watch as much as I would want, but I watch a good amount, like
when I can.
He's on early or late or whatever.
Always lock and then dial. Never dial before locking.
Are you gonna join only thanks three? Oh yeah, of course. It's Scrier meta for
Propowl? I think they're very similar but I'm Eldor. I think Eldor might be slightly
better but I'm only gonna matter as much.
attack is nice when there's no melee just running to kill him
MBG.
The Maker.
RP is better than Parse, pick for aesthetics. Yeah, what's nice is
oftentimes with the Scryer versus Aldor choice, there's like one that's better early game and
and one that's better late game, for a lot of classes.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter either way.
Right?
Because even the one that's better early game isn't that much better early game,
and the one that's better late game isn't that much better late game.
So you can kinda just make your choice, which is pretty cool, man.
Yeah, so like I judged Crusader on this. I really don't think it's worth it on a 25 second fight
But I didn't get the judge crusader till about 10 seconds in so it's only like a 15 second fight. Yeah, I don't seem to stroll
Alder and skryer is the perfect example of min max. There's like one or two specs that yeah, I like it though
It's one of those things where it's like there's no you can't really make the wrong choice which I think is dope. Oh
crap
Yeah, we need that kill the skull first
Might bubble here if I need to
Okay, we actually pulled a double pack there, but it was fine.
Don't run in here.
Okay.
I'll pull back.
On all sides, I just can't put it on cheaper mats to raise reps.
Yeah, exactly.
That's cool.
I like that.
Why does Zaheit lower city?
I just don't need any of the gear from there.
And I've been on a tight schedule trying to get everything ready before raid day.
Dude, I think these laughing skull enforcers also thrash.
I almost got one shot twice.
I
Poked is crazy going in for a hellfire against double techies, man
And the...
I did some peek and bash.
Wait, tell me about the gauntlets in Shattered Halls, we're in Blood Furnace, unless you
just mean like this hallway.
And yeah, this hallway is tricky.
We can probably move up at this point, but...
Blood furnace has a gauntlet as well.
Are you talking about the second boss?
Yeah.
I guess that's kind of a gauntlet. You don't really like move.
And they don't really respawn. What's the technical definition of a gauntlet?
What do you call the second boss a gauntlet?
Usually I think of a gauntlet as like some like a like BWL.
Like if the trash is respawning, you have to move through.
I don't really think of the second boss as blood furnace as a gauntlet,
but maybe it is on like a technical definition or something.
of
them
I'm going to take that.
We might pull double laughing Skull Enforcer, okay we did, not a huge deal, but you need
another slow trap in a second here.
Nice.
and
the
day your squishy house the gear the gear is almost as
Just kind of how it goes.
Almost this, I guess I should say almost pre-bis.
Not like the raid's not out yet, it's almost pre-bis.
I might check out the path first.
How many bombs are you going to set off in next room?
I try to just run over all of them as the tank, so no one else does.
Can I pull?
I'm just gonna pull these first, I guess.
Just premise islands nice
Nice.
This is heroic.
Lucky it's not a melee group. Yeah, very, very, very lucky whoever built this group.
Name the add-on for the health bars. This is just default, no add-on.
what's the previous list I'm following um it's the subtle paladin bible or
whatever I don't know if anyone has a link I do not have it on hand you need a
stream overlay saying yes it's heroic yeah yes I replace thunder fury yes this
is a heroic dungeon if you want my add-ons there in discord
Just a couple basic ones.
Yes I'm using kinks instead of sank on purpose.
I'm not judging seal a crusader on purpose
Oh, I just realized last time I did blood furnace I tanked with a vendor shield this time I'm taking without it
I just realized like without it feels pretty fine
What's the point safe for my Benchers got into?
I sank to Diora, 10% holy damage, which is kind of like 10% damage, which is kind of
like 10% threat.
It's kind of nice.
There's loading.
Um, techie fellow work.
You need the boots from the last boss from this place?
I don't think I need anything.
I almost died to that.
That was a nice spear from our lock there in the clutch.
Alright.
So we haven't CC'd all dungeon long.
This is the first time we need to CC.
Okay, let's talk CC.
There are three or four mobs in each cage.
I will grab forward single mob or double.
We fear back left mob and sheep back right mob in any case.
Make sure to spam fear or sheep because if it breaks you get charged.
On the four packs, Xyphobos, you can Hunter Trap Front Right Mob.
So Fear back left, Sheep back right.
On four packs, Trap Front Right.
All Mark, Skull X.
should be self-explanatory. Okay. Can't you pre-mark the cages? Not. No, you can't, unfortunately.
All right. Can we one-shot this? Let's get a prediction.
Do we one-shot? I think this is the hardest boss in all of Heroics right here.
All right, I think we got this
Dude you can't we okay nice no sheath
That is a sheath beautiful
Okay, kill sheet first.
Yeah, so slows don't work on these mobs at all.
And even one at a time is hard.
That's why this is so darn hard.
Yeah, I almost just died to one.
Okay, second one, same thing.
Sheep and fear, sheep and fear, sheep and fear.
If it doesn't get sheaped here, then I'm pretty much dead.
Okay, we got the sheep here, but just a little delayed.
We can keep Sheep for mana.
Okay, so the next two are way harder.
And we're pretty much um, so let's chill.
We can chill on mana for a sec, but they do open.
I got Shadowfiend, okay.
We need, hopefully we have a mana pot too.
These next two are way harder.
Okay, Hunter, make sure to trap as well.
I'll try to mark Skull and F to trap X, kill Skull,
CC back, left and back, right?
Oh, that's awkward.
Okay, that's really awkward and it worked out, but we didn't trap the right mob
It's fine
That actually does work we just send the trap on the door and whenever it gets trapped gets trapped
That actually works really well, so we can just do that
Watch out poke watch out poke
Whoo sketchy
Wow, okay, we handled that really well
She blast
Cool, okay one more just like that we're good
Can you shrink the enrage?
I'm not sure you wonder in rage. I think you can slow them though. So the enrage is actually good
Got one more pig one same thing here at Shrapdoor
I mean to kill this by the way
I bubbled it's really bad. I don't know if we could have avoided that at all but
This actually works really well clean clean again
Very clean we go trap next trap next
You want to re-CC that one? I taunted it re-CC it re-CC it
Re-CC it we need a sheep ASAP. We need a sheep on the sheep target ASAP
Nice very good very good keep the sheep and keep the fear
Good job guys
Okay, cool.
She blasts.
Wow.
I mean, this is, dude, I think this is definitely the hardest boss in Heroic.
People disagree with me thinking there's other harder bosses.
No way, bro.
What else takes that much coordination?
Four mobs that are unslowable.
Did like one shot you?
Yeah right. This is definitely the hardest one.
Nice!
Yeah one shotting that is massive. We have a good group pump for it.
Mage Lock Hunter is really good for this.
I am out of mana.
Trinking right now, but I think we just go.
I'm gonna mana pot, don't know if that's troll.
I'm not even gonna judge Crusader, this fight's gonna be too short.
Just call myself, just call Poe, call us or trinket.
W!
Nice work team!
That owns.
That really owns.
I
Watched Bajira warrior tank this with no cc
You for you for again, there's no way I mean I haven't seen a warrior do this but for tank with no cc
There's no way I would die instantly
Running in there with all four. I'm dying one hit
Coon Guinness done the same really I
Can only take one at a time if I if I get hit by two of those I'm dead
Straight up, I mean no question
Yeah, I'm stuck in combat here. Yeah
You can shield wall in the warrior, huh?
Koongan solo'd all four packs with no healer.
Dude, what?
Okay, that's pretty impressive.
Like I need a healer man.
If I don't have a healer, I'm gonna die.
Oh, but here's in the chat.
We definitely had a CC, it was just much scrappier.
Oh, see, got you! Vashira's in the chat!
Saying they did need a CC!
You can't just tank all four!
How much is this fake news just getting spread around?
Because I'm getting baited by Twitch chatters saying things that aren't even remotely true.
Apparently, Koongan can do this place with no heals.
Solo.
With his hands tied behind his back.
Vashira charged in.
No CC all four.
Not a big deal.
Who can solo us this place easily? Yeah, I don't know man
He doesn't even use armor apparently zero armor
Just me and four healers
Don't let me die boys. Let's go. Oh my gosh
All right
The Felgard Groot's actually slot me silly dude.
It doesn't feel good either.
I kind of just get nuked.
Right there.
You guys watch this holy wrath pull.
See that? Boom.
Oh, someone aggroed a rogue. That's a bubble cancel.
This is gonna hurt. Oh!
Okay, we got a big game here.
Where are my points for believing?
Oh, here we go.
Nice, poke is doing 3k dps, that's solid.
The difference between normal dungeons and heroic dungeons are the heroic ones are way
harder.
That's what I've noticed.
OK.
We can banish one poke if we want.
Nice.
Double Annihilator slaps me silly.
It's not good.
I
You can finish diamond
Oh!
Soulstone!
I knew that.
Sorry, guys.
I was spaced out on the Soulstone there.
Oh!
This is awkward.
Okay.
Okay, keep swapping the bandage target. I don't know what-
BOOH!
No way!
Okay.
Ha, let's think about this one. What do we do?
Lay on hands. This has got to be worth it. Just kill it, bro.
We got this okay. I guys I thought for sure
Folks is I thought it helped. I don't know I panicked
I was just gonna say we did the entirety of blood furnace by a single wipe
But I didn't say that
Good thing I didn't say that because that would have been embarrassing because we did wipe
but I thought it. I did think it. I did think about saying that. I wonder how I died. Let's
Let's take a look.
Who's this stuff?
What the heck does that death log even mean?
Huh?
It doesn't show anything.
It's not very good.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
I died 100-0 in one hit.
I hit my lock hellstone, but I didn't have one, I think.
My bubble is also on cooldown.
Hmm. I don't know.
I am not sure.
In three seconds you got hit for 12,000.
Oh.
Ouch.
These mobs are bugged. It might have been a thrash, like a thrash from the big guy just
killed me in one hit. I don't know. I think I got hit three times in one second. Am I
defense capped? Yeah, I'm actually a little over. Actually, I'm way over with this.
498
Wait, how do I have so much defense?
What the heck?
Yeah, we got a lock in a dial this the healers AFK he says he's putting away groceries. Yeah, everybody dial in
up
the
time I was isn't quite cap on right under the
avoidance gap for heroics, luckily. Only for raids. But once we get the helm, we'll be
avoidance gap and we get the helm after the next heroic. One more.
Bump. Bump. Bump. Bump. Bump. Bump. Bump. Bump.
You need crushing blow cap for Kara? Yes. How much dodge? Uh, nothing specifically.
You just need 102.4 avoidance.
Joker got backstabbed one shot four times in this dungeon.
That is hilarious.
Well, I love wow, yes.
What's the stat on ECS?
Check my discord.
You need 490 for uncrushability plus no crit.
485 for Heroics, 490 for raids.
Yeah, best get, what's up, man?
How's it going?
How much doge?
True.
102.4 fully buffed.
doo doo doo doo
skim oven
I wonder if it had something to do with me not polling
I don't know
TPC heroics are harder than wrath. Oh, yeah from what I hear heroics and wrath are kind of easy
Do I rate in retail when there's new expansions?
Yeah.
I did the last one. I planned to do this one too.
of the
the
The difficulty in TBC heroics isn't even skillful difficulty.
Most pulls have a solve and you either do it or not.
That's actually kind of true.
It depends how you define difficulty, but that's kind of true.
It's similar in Runescape when you're getting like Fire Cave.
It's not that it's like hard, but if you don't do it, you're dead.
So it's like, but it's not like mechanically really insane where it's like you're doing
a lot of things crazy and sequenced super fast, right?
and
cut
Wow. Oh, I was gonna say we won face it, but need to...
Pew! Got him. We got him!
Leather shoulders. For why is it always the rogue stuff, man?
Doomplate gauntlets.
Nether.
Leather.
Leather. Alright.
All right, shattered hulls, hype.
How many times did Pika wipe in here?
I don't know.
Wait, can I already do Shattered Hulse today?
I think I actually did.
No, I actually didn't.
Blood Furnace Rampers, Arquitra's, Black Mara's, Slay Fens.
in the daily? Yeah. One more heroic till the helmet boys. The final heroic. We need
Three more badges.
Hmm.
What heroic should we do for the final one?
Which one do we do? Wait, what the heck?
bro my honor hold rep is nineteen thousand out of twenty one thousand what
the heck just gave me so much rep holy crap bro if we do shattered halls we're
like exalted with honor hold blood furnace we just cleared blood furnace
Hmm could do shattered halls and my defense is so high now
now
and
the not the bad shield on that yet
for a pair of good comes
Let me think, let me think, let me think, let me think, let me think, let me think, let
me think, let me think, let me think.
Shattered Halls gives 2.9k rep.
Funny enough, I don't need anything from Exalted Honor Hold, but we would get it
anyway.
We could also just do Steam Vaults.
We also need Underbug.
vaults could be the move. The sword, apparently my sword is higher on the
vist list than the honor hold sword. Because it has more stamina, more hit. We
lose stamina and help spell hit for the other one. Apparently this one is higher
on the vist list. That's cap people are saying.
I don't know what I'm saying right now.
Minus 17 stamina and minus 8 hit for 38 spell power 21 crit.
I don't know.
Threat is fine, the increase in EHP is good, that's what I'm saying, like, do I want stamina or a little more spell power?
Probably stamina, really, like, my, uh, my threat's not an issue.
Save G says I'm saved to slave pens and to steam vaults. I was maybe gonna do steam vaults.
Um, I mean, we could go do shattered hulls.
Yeah, but it's epic.
That's a good point.
It is epic.
Very true.
very true. All right, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, let's do shattered holes. If you guys
I just want to do Shattered Hull, Stemmy Whisperer.
I'm trying to think of what kind of crew I want to make.
I'll do it as a rogue.
I don't know if we have room for a rogue right now.
Arcane Mage,
when you triple teams you can bring mage ellie holy priest like holy priest propowl
I
There's an enhanced do we could try a melee cleave we could try remember yesterday. We're gonna try hunter enhanced warrior
Hunter enhanced warrior could go hard or it could be terrible
Is there a hunter and a warrior to pair with an enhance?
That might be miserable in Shattered Halls, but it might be sick.
Could be sick.
Shattered Halls is a scary place to test this.
OK, true.
Maybe we should just go.
OK, OK, maybe for this we go Mage.
Ellie.
What's the last spot?
I guess it could be like anything that does damage.
A lock.
Could also be like a shadow priest.
It could be like a hunter.
Could be like a lock like a big warlock like a massive warlock
Mmm
It would be ideal to bring a shaman I mean we have a shaman we have an ellie and a mage
Or we could bring in a warrior fury geared warrior here
Yo! What about a warrior? Warriors do damage. What about we try a warrior? Warriors don't
belong in TBC? I want to try a warrior. I haven't played with a warrior. Helicite said try a
warrior but I'm here on standby yes okay let's try a warrior oh my gosh I think I
think this group comp could be kind of sick with the mage for the slows the
Ellie for the utility the priest for the heels and the disbells and then the
warrior for the slams
Yo, if we keep up T-Clap plus Demo Shout, it's huge.
Thunder Clap, Demo Shout, Slows, Totems, AoE, Blast, Boom, Warrior, Priest, Shaman, Mage.
This could be sick.
This could be the new main team right here.
This could be it.
men. Are we going to do Wrath of Air Totem or Winfury? Wrath of Air. I mean, the warrior
is there for the utility, man. He's there for the Thunder Clubs and the Demos shots. We don't
need him to do damage. I'd say definitely, definitely air. The warrior does not fit
it all in the group guys what do you warrior haters out there man
everyone just hates warriors
you're the first streamer I've seen with a slow-mount
there's no way there's no way
There's no way.
It's mage is pretty big.
If you're not dropping wind fury to it, then what's the point of bringing a warrior?
Guys, you're telling me, you think wind fury on a warrior is better than 100 spell power
to meet the major annielly delusional there's no way there's no no no no you
guys are so wrong on this uh-uh there's no way dude no but why would you bring
the warrior cuz I'm bringing the warrior to change it up man I just want
see how the warrior does. Maybe it's OP.
Look at this. Look at this guy right here. Wait a minute. He's had a full
This is a full bis.
It's okay.
Dude.
Okay?
Let him cook? I mean, yeah. I mean, I thought he said full bis for sure.
Alright, we're fine, we're fine, let's test it out.
We can do it this is this is gonna be fine
This is this is gonna be fine. I'd say we have this. I don't know why we're
testing this in a shattered hulls guys we should be testing this in underbog or
Test steam bolts. I don't know why we're here right now
Yeah, let's let me let's just prior like demo shout
Demo shout first global every time no matter what
Always
there it is
there we go
okay
of
Yeah, I don't I don't know all right. Anyway, what's going on guys?
Mok-Thoraka!
of
I think I can pull Legionnaire when he moves to the right.
Thought he moved to the right for sure.
Yeah, here we go.
Oh, maybe not.
I can just pull these
Okay
Okay, I mean T Club Dino shout man, that's kind of working
Cclab Demo is not bad.
Give him Wind Fury.
I think the spell power for our Shaman is going to be good.
Missing Wizard Oil.
I still need to get that Nova buff add-on thing
This comp is crazy I really wanted to test out more man
Nova consumer miner? Yeah, I want to get that on.
There's the Winfury totem.
How is he weaving of it?
I imagine talking about comps in TBC?
The thing is like the difficulty of TBC is generally about making the right group
comp.
That's where the difficulty lies.
Literally it's in the prep in the group comp. It's not like the mechanics necessarily
right
That's what classic wow is all about
Coming prepared coming to the raid or the dungeon with the right buffs with the right with the right group comp with the right
Synergies like that that is the game
The difficulty outside of that is almost nothing
Two, the mage got double charged.
It's a little unlucky.
on lucky.
Okay, um, so let's Sheep Moon and AoE slow the rest.
Sheet Moon and 100% Blizzard and Earthbind Uptime.
Plead Rest.
Yeah, that'll work.
And then let's just make sure to have Aoe Thunderclap, Tclap
plus Shout all times.
All right, let's do it.
Yeah, kill the Legionnaire first.
100% slow up time here as well
Let's do it
Okay, it's line
Okay, this is good
Dude dude, why did I bring a warrior bro instead of a lock?
What is going on man? Are you kidding me?
There's no way
Dude there's no way
I think his gear isn't great either guys like the rest of us are like pretty geared the warrior has no gear I
I think that's what a lot of it is. Oh, thanks, man.
He's a warrior.
What?
Shannon says it sounds like I'm bullying the poor warrior.
Should I apologize? Sorry, Mr. Fury, I didn't mean...
I'm just obviously saying your gear isn't quite very good compared...
I didn't mean...
All right same thing here we got this
All right
Guys it's just shattered holes like we we can do this
Yeah, you can sheep.
We need a deacres on the tank.
Okay, come on.
Yeah, ready, ready?
We can go.
Yep.
I will say Thunder Claw and Demo Shout makes things way easier to tank.
I will say that.
Thunder Claw Demo is way, way easier to tank stuff.
And if we brought an Enhance or a Feral, the damage gets amped way harder.
And Commanding Shout, true, true.
Like I actually don't need to run in circles too much with this group bump. I can kind of just sit there and take it
Which is kind of cool, and I don't think I could do that without the warrior
You know
Should we try no sheep
I
Want to try no sheep I didn't dip it all there
Right t-club Timo in so we got this
Yeah, this owns.
Look at the damage!
Guys the Warriors there for the T-Clap Demo man.
We don't even need the Paulies at all with this.
I'm a little tankier than normal.
is free to buy to bring in the box in the tea club demos man
I'm going to pull back to here pulling pulling to here. Yeah, I think with full box with this
I have like 14 or 15 K life or something stupid with commanding shout and stamina
Okay, we need big slows
Oh brother
Look at that, look at that, I'm not even kiting, I'm not even kiting!
We're blasting dude!
You got a D-Curse me?
I need a D-Curse.
Nice.
Yo!
Oh my god, bro!
Hold on, this is kind of sick!
Oh would they they call for help or something bro the leech and air it called for help
We're pulling more it's fine. Just keep walking it in
Bro tea clap tea clap demo shout man it's OP
I mean, I'm not gonna die. We know that much
Yes, we're by damage you look at one point we're doing 1.2k deeps
Up on the power
Cool let's go baby
Maybe?
Alright, hounds die first here.
These things slap big time.
Alright, we're going to try another warrior comp.
I want to try Hunter Warrior Enhance, right?
Hunter Warrior Enhance.
would help the that would help the warrior way more and then we bring a
warrior with full gear to fully geared warrior hunter warrior names just pack
it up bro no dude I swear could be good yo just run through tunnel and big mage
A.O.E.s
Alright
This is gonna be fine
Mr. Mage, we need that Blizzard. Nice
This is going to be fine.
Wait, look.
It's actually fine.
Hey, look.
It's actually fine.
See?
It's fine.
See? It's fun.
Nice! Completely fun.
Come to think of it, this is the best group comp in the game, where a match would come
with a new meta out of nowhere.
Carlson, thanks for the prom.
What are the dumbbells?
I use Nuo Bells.
We have a link, Nuo Bell, if you want to check him out here.
Look at that dude.
T-Clap D-Mo. I'm invincible.
T-Clap D-Mo invincibility, baby.
Don't want to stand in that.
I don't know what's going on here Dude, what is happening?
Let's do it.
Alright, bonlap time.
Let's do it.
Alright, bonlits on.
Bonlit time, baby.
the
world we have to compare and contrast is
You know what I'm saying? Way different. I think. Maybe. Could be. Could be. Might be.
Okay, stay with me.
This is tough.
Nah, can't fit a feral into the comp. Feral's jump provided enough out of Link.
unless the only person that feral could replace is me if you replace me with a
feral that would work try using an aura just a tip thanks dude that's a good tip
T-Clap, Demo, don't even need to kite. Watch that. Boom.
See that? No kiting necessary. T-Clap, Demo, full HP.
I'm gonna let people train for like a second and then kinda...
Okay.
We're like massively locked in and tiled here, look at that T-flap, Dino's all over the place.
Okay, two more zealots, then we're gonna shrink up, take my boss.
I think we can sheep the archers and just kill the boss here.
Okay.
Okay, she moved on. What's our other CC? What? Another CC? Who built this group?
I can't take both.
War your fear.
War your fear, nipple, sheet moon, kill Skull.
Or maybe I can kill both I can maybe take all three I can maybe tank both because I have Tclop I
Can try to tank too as well
All right, she moon Coco
Okay, he fears it anyway for the pole love it
Kill.
Got T-Clap Deemo.
We got this.
Kill, kill, kill, kill.
Set the finish.
Oh my, okay, no troll.
T-Clap Deemo, no troll.
Actually makes me so much tankier.
Look at this.
This is crazy.
Like I would not be able to do that without C-Club Demo, no shot.
I'm dying right there without C-Club Demo, for sure.
That's why pallies are off tanks and warriors are main tanks.
Wow, that's nuts.
Please for your sanity invite never invite another warrior again. No, I'm not trolling.
I want to try hunter warrior in hands now after this. I think it could be sick
You know what screw the sheet bro. We're gonna pull it all
Okay, gonna try to pull all of this
Kill skull fast make sure to keep up slows and T-Clap demos
No CC here
is
is kind of cold slow enough if it's 100% up time yes
just need 100% up time
Okay, you're good then okay. Yeah
Yeah.
All right.
Pulling back, back, back, back, back, back.
All right, hopefully we don't get one shot
on the pull here.
Then we de-flap demos and slows.
I'm not dying. I'm not dying.
I'm not dying. Look at that. T-Clap, Demos, Slows, everything.
I'm not dying.
Just build a Mage Fear, Insta.
I'm not dying.
T-Club Demo, so OP man.
Okay, I pulled a pull.
Oh, no, I didn't pull. I just pulled one.
Yooooooow, it works!
T-Club Demo baby!
I'm telling you man, Warriors!
Warriors are kind of low key man.
Kind of disgusting. I'm just saying.
I'm rolling a warrior now.
There it is.
Okay, kill- kill hounds, guys.
Kill the hounds.
Nice, uh, beautiful.
Healer is hard carrying this.
I think it's the T-Club Teemo's TBH.
I missed the sound of Prair Remending.
Your emending is a nice sound.
You can hear it bouncing, you know?
Yeah, it's very nice.
Okay, do I pull the Legionnaire back?
I mean, we could try to not pull the Legionnaire back and just kill him really fast.
We could try pulling Legionnaire here.
Every time I try to kill it here, it ends up shouting and calling more.
I think let's sheep some moon on pull 2 to make it a little easier.
with the sides of sketch you you guys want pulled back I mean I don't care I've done
it yes okay all the way back there let's go sheet moon when it's back okay we can
She moved up there too. It's fine
Because that's just a rank one little consecration for a little snap through you like that boom
Get ready right here right here same spot. Oh gosh
D-Clap Demos man, hopey.
Neutronair needs to die instead.
I mean bro, hands off the keyboard, look at that.
Hands are off the keyboard, I don't even need to kite with warriors.
Class is disgusting.
Look at this.
No takey I am man.
Look at that!
Bro with a warlock instead of that warrior I'm having to run laps bro.
Like some serious laps or else I'm dead.
Praise the dealer.
I mean, he's doing 800 DPS.
That actually is pretty good.
Yeah.
A couple more of these.
We lock in Medial, stealthy boys in the hallway,
killed a boss, another hallway, another boss.
Boom, boom.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, Martini, what are we doing?
Brother, you're dead.
Don't heal him, don't heal him!
What are we doing?
What are you being threatened for, man?
Oh gosh.
This is fine, T-Clap D-Mo.
Ha, T-Clap D-Mo, man.
100% dude are you kidding me look at disgusting hands off the keyboard hands off the keyboard
infinitely tanky done done
new gear today we got the bracers locked in we got the booties yesterday tomorrow
we're getting the belt that's what Blizzard told me era that's uh we're
gonna try to get the belt tomorrow and then uh we get the helm today
potentially we get the honor hold exalted sword after this run if we want
to but I don't know if we want to we actually lose some stamina to do that
What is T-Clap Demo?
So Thunder Clap is 10% attack speed reduction.
Wait, I thought it was 20% and Demo shot is 300 melee attack power reduction.
So with both of those, I'm invincible essentially.
If you haven't skilled it's 20.
Bro, you don't have the Thunder Clap skill, dude!
I brought you for one reason, man!
Bro.
Woo!
We need to de-clap.
I don't know.
Is there a stealthy boat in here?
I have perception up but I'm not seeing anything.
I don't know.
But maybe it's the next hallway.
I trust my healer! I'm not using a potion!
I'm not gonna pot!
I trust in the Teak Lab demo!
We're fine.
He's loading.
Okay.
Very nice, boys.
Very nice.
Alright guys, on this boss he's gonna charge someone.
Oh, I can bop you one time.
Good luck.
We got this.
We have to bop for the charge.
I'm gonna wings on the threat drop to
All wings for threat drop I bought two if it goes if it goes someone twice
Cool
How much are you missing a shadow priest right now? Oh me?
Not much at all
Okay, we need a pump. We need to pump heavily, baby. We need to pump hard.
I'm popping wings on that threat drop Tclap just spelled me and just spelled the warrior that thing so P
Yeah, I'm gonna hold my judgment in flow voles right now right when it's a threat drop boom wings judgment snap threat big
Watch this right there boom wings judgment snap threat
I could pop the warrior, but yeah, we get a bath look at that
T-clad foam into the spell myself
Right between the next melee swing boom that's we're gonna hammer out the judgement to re up
Yo, yo, yo, we just got exalted on our hold after that guys
We can debate on whether or not I should buy the exalted honor hold weapon after this
But we got it
Just naturally just from doing heroics ever didn't even try to get that that was just a complete accident
It's the same speed same DPS I lose 17 stamina I lose spell hits, but I came to spill power and crit
It's like 20 17 stamina is pretty big to lose
People have Demos instantly, Insta on snap, on snap pull, Insta, okay, here it is.
Helm hog, oh no, we get the helm off the same boss!
Yeah, we do not want to pull that guy.
Dude, we have 50 badges guys, we get a helm and a weapon after this.
Oh crap. Oh buddy you're dead. Popped a warrior. Okay T-Clocked emos. Dude what is going on
here guys? Okay we need big damns, big kites. Mmm, it's gonna, yeah I think our shaman's
going to die on that. Yeah, it definitely dies. The warrior just completely charged into that
bag. What a baller did. Charged into a double assassin. Straight into the Houndmaster bag.
What a beast. We saved him with the InstaSnapBop too. Oh my gosh. What a monster. All right.
of the
death of the tea floppy GMO's
Wow
All right
So what we can do is yeah, I should say we exactly that's what I was gonna say
We just kind of like AoE and double check the hallway
There's one
Any major streaming TVC that you'd recommend to learn from I'm trying to think from the PBE side of things I
Was watching shroud and he seems pretty locked in and dialed
I'm trying to think of any other PvE mages I've seen play.
Joker is playing mage?
Oh yeah, he is playing mage.
He's a little known.
Check out Joker for sure.
Joker and Shred.
I'm trying to think if I've seen another PvE mage.
A lot of people saying it's Zika but more PvP, definitely check out Joker, yeah.
It's just better for heroics, man.
Kings is more HP.
In heroics you just want to knock at one shot.
and
up
seal of entrance isn't
better for bosses
essentially
kinda
from what I understand
kings to warriors a good idea
oh yeah true
threat might not
might not be an issue there. Alright, final boss time. We got a lock-in, we got a dial.
Just spread in big damn. Ads will come, I'll pick them up. Kill boss, T-Clap demo. Alright,
Let's do it. Totems in room. We can lost this too if we want.
I.T. Club Demos. Nice. Instantly up. Lost it up as well. It's fantastic.
look at our damage oh my mage damage disgusting okay we have one ad coming in
here
how the mage got double charged I don't know if you can do anything to stop
that. That was all of our damage too and our loss faded. Okay this is gonna be some big t-club demos.
Can you do anything to stop that? I don't think so.
Okay I'm trying to think if I mana pot. Yeah I think I have to just mana pot.
I bought our healer. I just need the healer has to not die for sure
Okay, this is gonna be this is gonna be if he shot Ellie Shawn was completely in our tea club Demos dead
Okay guys we need it we need to lock in here lock in and kill the boss
We need to lock in and kill the boss here guys
Way
Okay, I've got aggro on everything but
Losing of sacrifice on our healer
Smooth boys smooth locked in dialed
There we go, baby
Leather gloves cloth gloves guys warriors OP it turns out OP it turns out man
There it is
Oh, yeah, we can get another patch we get to we get our helmet
Yeah, we want to kill this guy for the extra one
Good comms. Very good comms.
Time for a gigachat melee cleave group. I'm down to test out a fully based out warrior hunter enhanced run. I swear wouldn't be bad.
I have a friend who's a
beast warrior. Let me see.
Yo, I want to show chat
that warrior enhanced hunter combo you want to game up a heroic or two let me
see I'm asking a friend of mine one sec
oh he says he's down guys all this down
Um, okay, one sec.
Yo, massive Ws.
Port to shot is huge, yeah.
I have, uh, Steam Vaults open, underbog.
Yo, massive Gigi's insane group, thank you.
Alright, we got it done.
Let's go buy that sweet, sweet helmet, huh?
Fifty-two batch of justices.
As your shield of Kuldera.
Nope.
Face guard of determination.
That's gotta be it, right?
That has to be it.
Guys, this thing is insane.
This thing is insane.
This is getting us straight up to de-cap.
Boom.
Kind of disgusting.
Let's think.
I need a blue socket, meta socket,
but I also need the inch-hand.
Where do I buy that 16 defense 17 dash in-chant?
Oh, it's caverns of time.
Oh.
Crap.
All right, hold up, hold up, hold up.
Let me think.
Oh my gosh!
That's a lot of avoidance, man!
I'm at 64% avoidance with this, I'm at 68.9%.
104.2, baby!
Guys, I think I can put the shatar enchant on phase guard of determination because my
avoidance is higher than it needs to be.
I can drop the defense and dodge enchant on the helmet and get the shatar enchant.
Do you guys agree?
The shatarian shant is this guy, I think, and it gives, uh, um, this one, 22 damage and hit.
You'll lose defense on the scenario and exalted ring, so watch out.
Oh, good call.
Good call.
Let me take this off real quick.
67.7.
Still 103.
Even without this ring.
Right?
Okay, even without the ring.
So we should be good.
So I can buy this.
22 spell damage, 14 hit is massive I think.
I think that's what it is on the previous list anyway.
So we put that on here.
I can just delete my fell steel helm.
And then
Give me a sec here this 19 defense is also overkill
My defense is actually 42
No, I actually do need the second ring for the defense rating. Oh, that's kind of awkward
But hold on
We get the Medichot socket and the blue socket.
Let me go get my Honor Hold weapon too.
You should get the defense enchant for head and a different ring.
Yeah, it might have been the play, but minus 85 gold.
Hmm, hold on.
I do plan to replace this ring my avoidance is actually fine without it, but my defense is a little low
Crap
I'm thinking hold on I
I could put one defense Gem in yeah like an eight defense Gem in a yellow socket
Yeah, so what I what I want to go for is the scenario exalted ring scenario expedition exalted ring
That's that's the one I'm going for
But when I replace this, I'm gonna need a defense in me a little low.
So I'll have to figure that out.
I don't have to figure that out yet, but I do have to figure that out pretty soon here.
Don't stress you won't get it before Kara.
I definitely will.
I'll probably get it tomorrow.
Okay, let's buy the weapon and then let's inshant the, let's socket the helmet.
Oh yeah, in the meantime, I wanted to build a group, but we're gonna do mech.
Yo safety, is mech good for you?
Heroic mech?
Yeah?
We're gonna do a mech.
If anyone wants to go to mech, let me know.
We have a big priest, a big warrior.
I wanted to try a melee cleave, so I want a hunter and an enhance.
Big hunter, big enhance.
Enhance mainly previous can win fury totem twist.
His name is Twistnip.
We also have a Bist out, hard, ready to run it back.
He has this.
We've ran with Dude before, he's solid.
Twistnip.
Mainly Prebis.
Do we want mainly Prebis from Twistnip?
Don't know what that means.
17 stamina down but I gained 40 spell power 21 spell crit I lose stamina on hit
is that worth it yes yes yes pass no yes yes yes no
Well, it's an epic.
Buy it for looks alone.
It looks the same as my current weapon.
Do a pull?
All right, fine.
Slash pull.
Do I buy the web?
Yes, no.
Good luck at fun.
I'll do it on YouTube as well.
Buy web?
Yes, no.
Your chat's fried.
You buy that web 100% or lower city maze.
Odd says to buy it 100%.
Jack says 65% yes on Twitch and 68% yes on YouTube.
All right, guys.
We'll buy it.
Fine.
Boom.
I did not plan on buying that, but there we go.
Okay, let's go to Stormwind and get Enchants.
Enchants and we have 40 spell power to weapon and sockets.
We need a Meta Socket and a Blue Socket.
Okay, next up.
What Meta Socket do we get?
This has 12 spell damage, minor speed increase, but I think for me that all of these, all
of these do the spell damage and speed increase, all these business lists, shouldn't I get
stamina and 5% chance to miss stuns?
Yeah, 18 Stam stun resists.
I think I'm gonna get 18 stamps done resist.
Run speed is good.
I don't think it stacks with this, does it?
Oh, the stamina one's not out yet.
This thing doesn't exist yet.
It drops in Kara.
That's why. See, you can't get it.
Hmm...
What metasocket do I put in then?
I guess we go 12 spell damage or minus speed increase, just like the list says.
Guess we have to do it. It's the only one we can get, huh?
I need two yellow and one red.
I have a red, I have a yellow, Crap.
Oh, that's why he does this one.
So another 4 defense, 6 stamina gem.
So another one of these, because this will count as another yellow, Enduring Talosite.
12 defense rating and chance to restore health on hit.
Ooh.
Trying to think if I want 12 defense.
Ooh, that actually might be sick because I'm going to take this off.
I need 19 defense though.
That one please.
Do you guys want a 12 defense or a 12 spell damage?
490 defense looking for enchanter plus 40 spell power weapon ever in one spell
power.
I'm gonna get a new ring, is that the only issue?
My defense is technically 482.
My defense is technically slightly too low.
Everyone, okay, I got like 16 whispers,
but everyone's in a group.
Here we go.
Is that this guy?
I might be able to use my adamantai figurine instead.
Paladin Curing is like a puzzle, man.
There it is. This is the gear set.
With this, I can take off this ring.
We have 496 defense.
With 60, oh no, I'm slightly on avoidance now.
Dang it.
I'm gonna get six more,
five, four more defense from an enduring talus.
Oh dude, it's so confusing.
There's like so many ways I can ship my gear around.
Get the Alkering.
Yeah, the Alkering is pretty sick,
but we'll see if it trumps or not.
Welcome to tank gearing.
I actually kind of like it.
It's kind of like a thought experiment.
Okay, so we need eight creator planar essence and eight large Prishards.
Yo Fane, thanks for the prom.
Change the shoulder enchanted dodge plus parry.
I can't do that till exalted with Aldor.
I don't know how expensive buying Aldor Exalted is, but that is a solution.
That is 100% a solution.
It cost me a THOUSAND gold? Oh my gosh.
Okay, and during Talosite, I think for now we do this.
We have like two more days to kind of switch up the gear before Kara.
I think we'll probably get a new belt and maybe a new ring by then too, so things will change and then sky fire
Swift star fire
The shield will get you to defense cap. Oh, yeah, the shield
Oh, this thing doesn't exist either?
Oh, you have to buy it from the spirit guy, dude.
Eight spirit shards.
I only have seven.
Bruh!
Guys, it's gotta be the stamina one then.
It's gotta be the stamina one, bro.
the defense stamina one
and
cap
holy crap we're getting big
Did I just hear the stormwind cathedrals bell tolling to announce the time?
Oh!
This alliance fires.
Oh!
I didn't even notice that!
What's it for?
On 4pm?
Yeah, that makes sense.
Um...
Gems meta gem.
I don't know what the defense want.
Okay 160 gold for defense and restore health on hit.
Send it, do it.
I'm gonna replace it next week once Kara comes out.
I can't just leave it unmeted.
Can we tell if we have the Terracar Forest under control?
Get one Spirit Shard and Manitones.
Let's see if I can scam my group into doing one Manitoum's boss for me for a sphere of
Shard. See if we can scam these guys.
Okay.
Alright. Let's get the shot.
All right, uh, let's get the shot.
Let's get back to shot.
We need that meta socket.
Okay, I think the avoidance issue is going to be solved once I get the shield.
Either shield I get is going to give me way more avoidance anyway, so we should be over
avoidance cap.
So I think the spell power one is the right play.
I think the spell power enchants all the way, spell power everything is good.
Once I get that shield, we'll be good to go.
In the short term, this ring, 484 defense, bro.
I would need one more.
That's fine, I'll just keep this ring on for now.
Dude, I think my threat is going to be cracked.
Guys, we have 400 spell power unbuffed.
My threat is going to be disgusting.
Wizard oil?
Yeah, completely unbought 400 bro.
elixirs and oil and everything it's gonna be crazy you're gonna have a thousand
spell damage in T4 man so cracked TPC hold yo bust a bubba T-wide for you
Do you see hold?
Okay, what do we need here?
First boss of manateums for the shard thing.
Gonna do first boss for the meta.
Okay, I'll ask again, is there any monster enhances that wanna come crush heroic bots?
I wanna try a melee cleave.
I want to see how a melee cleave goes and feels and operates.
Oh, we're doing heroic mech.
Not bot.
That's true.
Thanks, Oz.
Heroic mech.
You haven't only done architras, my bad.
We need heroic mech.
One enhance for heroic mech.
I want to try a melee cleave.
Hey, good evening, Saige.
So, Twist, Nip, or Avatar Barretti?
I'm a monster enhanced, but I can't do heroic mech.
Shoot.
Uh, I can come in 15 abused.
I think he's abused as he says he's stacked.
Oh, maybe we wait for abuse in 15 since we're doing manateums anyway.
that first boss. I have a stacked enhance that can come in 15. Let's do mana tomes until
that. Okay, sick. This guy says at stone for empty normal first boss. He's level 64. Sure,
Sure, let's do it bro.
For the spirit shards guys, do we need to PvP out here or something?
We're good on this layer?
Okay, sick.
This layer gets shard for the next hour and five minutes you can see at the top.
Oh, sick. Okay, cool.
Oh man, we're like two pieces away, man. We get the shield, we get the ring.
We're so close. Guys, we're so close. We're so close to having every single piece of gear perfect.
Oh my gosh.
What weapon did I get? I got Blade of the Archmage and then we got Face Star to Determination.
It's all coming together boys. It's all coming together. It is all coming together. It's
all coming together now. By Epic Mountain, bro, it's 5k. We are not that stacked
yet. What is the epic trinket? It's styliens. Styliens, believe it or not, is still pretty cracked.
You see something like a Thread Chop or something?
Are you a pumper-poly tank?
I think so, man.
I think so.
We're like 400 spellpower on buff now.
Oh, wow, the first boss is right here.
No wonder you guys told me to get here.
Maybe they keep out looking so good.
We're not testing it in here, guys.
We're doing just first boss for the metasocket.
Meta socket, then we're gonna go to the mech
You need to get to uncrushable. Yeah, right now we're like 2% off the avoidance cap
I think we can get there with a shrink of swap
Oh
See looking good though. Yeah, I'll see my I'll see my friend. Yeah, he's a pomper
It's just without his double win fury damage, that's what I'm saying bro!
without all of the other like this doesn't ask you something else too
of
the
guy nice
Do, do, do. Okay. Where is the spirit shard vendor? I feel like I should know this. It's Illyrian stronghold, I think
If you just buy agility food and agility scroll and Sherwood buffs, you'll be uncrushable. I think I'm gonna so before
Thursday, I plan to get a new shield
A new ring and maybe a new belt. So all of these numbers are shifting around anyway. But yeah, in theory, if Thursday came around
And I needed to raid. I think what I would do is just raid like this. I would have defense cap and avoidance cap
It would kind of sucked it to keep this ring on but I couldn't really take the ring off and be there
So I would just rate it this
But I think we're gonna have a lot of different gear by Thursday. Oh, I guess not a lot but ring belt and
Shield and the shield will be the big one
Do you know your Kara's group comp?
No, I plan to just plug it with the homies in the guild with you guys.
We were kind of messing around with Kara's group comps earlier today and I think I want
to run this, Prott, Arcane, Shadow, Destro, Ellie, Resto, Holy, Feral, Beastmastery,
Rhett.
But Shat called me an idiot and told me to replace the Rhett with a warrior.
this which is probably a better idea so yeah or you're for Demos nice bro Dmo
T-clot man. It's solid.
How's your timing? I'll message the enhance and see how his timing is. And we can head over to go summon him too.
It's been a while since I've used this vendor, where is this guy?
11
this is another really sick ring to the think
is no idea if you see your shards and I don't think
Alright, 407 bonus damage.
We can head out for summons in another storm now.
Alright.
Stacked grass. Dude, we have almost an entire pre-bisset.
We're missing the epic belt which may or may not drop and it's not that big of a deal either way
But it is better than this
Then we're missing
There's two different epic shields we could we could really get either one of them. It's kind of up to us
We have two days to get it so belt shield and then
The exalted ring from scenario in those are the three belt ring shield
If we get those three items we're pretty much like a hundred percent best. It's crazy to say
Sick all right, I'm gonna be our back once that guys I'm gonna go to the restroom and it'll keep farming
and
I was about
what's the defense cap for 90 for the raid
Since I'm a tank, but maybe we'll hop in one see how it goes. Welcome back. Thanks Kalina
Playing TBC after hardcore is relaxing. Dude heroics are definitely something definitely something
Oh, yeah, I forgot about these gauntlets of dissentation.
So many different, so many different gloves I could get.
I don't even know.
How's the kiddo?
He's great, man.
Areena already started in the U.S.?
Yep.
Yep, yep.
Kara. Easy, Kara, man. Easy, Kara. I'm so stoked for Kara, man. Amped for Kara.
24 Reasill Spell Power Generals Greaves
Are you glad we got a break from hardcore?
Yeah, yeah, I'm so to play the game normal for a little bit, but we'll definitely play more hardcore in the future coming up
Hey, sorry, what up, Chibi? How's it going?
Only things three yep
Am I gonna PvP for the weapon on the Paladin?
I probably will because the PvP weapon is really good if we can't get the gruel sword
What do you take in TBC heroics after this experience with prop Pali?
No, no way.
I think TBC heroics are kind of silly.
Like there's just so many things that you can one shot like you one shot to I think 100%
if we play TBC hardcore hitting 70 doing the normal dungeons getting attuned and hitting
Kara is sick.
That's all doable.
But I think the spamming heroics doesn't make any sense.
One the gear isn't even that good.
There's a very very high likelihood of dying right so it doesn't make any sense to do it on her on hardcore TBC
At least that's my take
Her oaks is a punishment love that yeah, I love that idea
Alright guys, you guys wanted it, here it is.
Let's check out an absolutely stacked melee cleave.
Okay, let's do a stacked melee cleave.
I haven't tried this yet.
Warrior enhanced hunter.
Let's see how it goes.
wanted to see this? Okay, I wanted to see it. Alright, I wanted to see it. I actually
haven't done heroic mech either, so we're trying at a brand new dungeon. So this will
be interesting. Haven't even done this place. Why Hunter? We need the slow traps. I think
I'm 100% slow trap uptime. So but everyone in here stack. So like this should be
a good test we have like dragon mob vindicators brand warrior we have blade
fists like our art like the enhance a stacked hunter hunters and loading screen
hunter needs a new star forage pc like every one of this group is stacked so
Oh, Hunter's down here still.
Anyway, I think the strat is 100% uptime on Slow Trap and Tclap plus Demo 100% uptime
0 CC and kill everything with Cleave. Tclap plus Demo plus Slow Trap keeps me up I think.
That's a strap.
Superior wizard oil.
We're going to 407 bonus damage.
Arcane elixir, 484.
Crunchy serpents.
Bro, this is so disgusting.
We're going to 500 bonus damage self buffed or like, you know, no flask and no like
raid buffs and stuff. You don't need slow trap. I mean, slow trap is kind of nice. Uh,
the hunter said he needs to go in a shot to buy the key. Are you full previous? We're
Not, but we're getting pretty darn close.
We're not full pre-best, but we're really close.
Dude, there's no way.
of the
Enhanced wants to do a little duel?
Oh, is this the Enhanced I was dueling in pre-patch? I think it was.
Okay, nice. I'm just going...
I guess this is how we're beating in pre-patch, do we?
Oh, me.
He's gonna heal up and I won't be able to do anything.
I don't think it's worth going over there to kill the totem, huh?
Yeah, boom.
Weird.
Swap it to norm so I can get-oh, oh yeah, good coms.
Okay, it's norm now.
And you're opinion is there any reason the nostalgia that people play classic at all?
Yes.
Yeah.
If classic was just nostalgia and it kind of sucked besides that, I think we would
have seen it just kind of die, right?
Shum enhance shaman and duals is super interesting. This is the only shaman I've seen do this, but he kind of just
doesn't attack me
And it just purges and kills me with shocks
Huh don't know what to do about that
People want to play something progressive. Yeah, I mean that's the one thing that retail has going for him in
Classics amazing but replaying something you've already done before isn't for everyone. Yeah, I think that's the one thing
That classic doesn't have we talked about that a couple hours ago on the stream is that classic is
is amazing but it's the same content of the priestess guide guys what is happening what is going on here
nice classic's amazing but if you've already done the content it gets very boring right so you have
to find new ways to have fun that's why i'm playing a palli this time that's why i'm
main tank and last time I played a mage let's do something different right there
There it is.
Yeah, we can summon him back.
Here we go.
Get back on Heroic now.
Okay, without further ado, let's get into it.
When does the next hardcore grind?
Probably a couple months out, TBC hardcore, hope.
The fun and classic is the Lupin Yatta, true, very true.
Just grinding.
Okay, we have food, both flask.
I think we have everything here.
Okay.
See how this feels.
See how it feels.
Okay, not even kiting just triple tanking and yeah
Okay, okay
Here we go
We might get that patrol or pulling I've actually never tanked this place, so we'll see how it goes
Double patroller! Okay, this will be interesting.
I don't know who pulled that. Definitely don't know who pulled that.
Definitely don't know who pulled that.
double patroller who pulled that who pulled who pulled who pulled
guys we're gonna have to look we're gonna have to go to the vaude and and and call the person out
I don't I don't know we're gonna we're gonna have to go to the vaude I I don't know
Okay, that's not going to count. We don't count that as a real pull.
Actually, funny enough...
Are the patrollers slowable? We might have been able to actually do that if the patrollers were slowable, and I just kind of better.
Go left? Oh, we're going left?
I've never gone left before. I always go right.
Okay, here we go.
It's nice.
Left is this.
Okay, it's left a little easier.
Oh, a troller.
T-Clock Teemo
Here we go these patrollers sit heavily
Things are fine, I mean bro look at the damage if you're gonna melee clean this is kind of how it works, huh?
Damage is great
I feel like it's not super fair because I've never tanked this dungeon before on heroic
So I don't really know the pulls like all the other dungeons
I do have an enhanced shaman, enhanced shaman blasting.
I'm gonna assume we can kind of just do this, see it?
Okay.
cat cat
cat
who's learning nice
I mean bro this this kinda works I was gonna work in my head
This doesn't feel bad.
Yo rags, thanks for the prom.
Yeah, kings are sick for heroics.
Whoa, why does my weapon look so crazy?
Dude, my weapon is the same weapon, but it looks different with this enchant.
It's like more sparkly, I think.
It like looks way cooler or something.
Is this heroic? Yeah.
There we go.
Yo, trustee, thanks for the prom.
Guess I should have exorcist him on Paul.
What time are you going to run, Kara?
I think I'm going to go Friday.
I think I'm going to go Cruel's, Mag's, Thursday, Kara Friday.
Okay, there we go.
the
one which one fury worlds better for multi-target win fairies better for single
Wow, that patroller pulled from so far.
I mean, okay, let's be honest.
This is not as good as the spell cleave, but it's pretty good.
I feel like this is pretty strong.
I don't really know how to pull this place, I'm going to be honest.
Ooh, yeah, how do you pull this place?
Okay.
Put a feral in instead of the pally and they'll be flying.
Yeah, yeah, so if I replace myself with a bear tank,
then they get the crit.
I think I think that's definitely what you want to do like Polly's definitely lend themselves better to the spell clue and then feral
Feral warrior enhanced hunter priest would be kind of sick for a melee melee train
replace the priests with a healer Paladin I don't I don't mind the priests over
the Pali
Okay, I didn't realize these had a, uh, they're kind of like the, um, the blood furnace mobs.
Hey Mike, thanks for the T1 sub dude.
67.
Nice.
I
I definitely feel like I am doing so much more damage with this weapon.
I don't know if it's just in my head, it might definitely be in my head, but I feel like
I am plomping 450 spell power.
Oh, I don't even have an arcana elixir on.
that we do 484 spell power men
That pull is so troll. Oh my gosh. The Tinker is... So I do think with a spell cleave that
pull is way easier because the casters can just stay out, right? Like all the melee getting
engaged and active and involved with that is like sketchy, dude. Have I tried to shotgun
build I haven't had any pvp actually
I mean I definitely don't mind this.
I definitely would run this again.
This comp is completely fine.
This is healer torture.
Yeah, I think the healer maybe doesn't like it as much.
I can't believe how OP mages are.
And warlocks after it. Yeah
Will polarity ship let's see it
What negative charge I'm never gonna notice this buff. What is this? Oh
It's must be a heroic only thing
negative charge interesting it's like the fattiest thing in the tbc
polarity shift I'm positive now huh bro they put the fad mechanic in tbc that's
kind of sick
So, we want to pull that guy, but we have to wait till he comes to here, I think.
This is why left is better, huh?
You can just pull mini boss here.
I think a full melee cleave would want a feral tank and then a Pali healer.
That would probably be like Superbiss.
Feral Tank, Pally Healer, Warrior, Enhanced Hunter.
That would give them all way more damage I think.
five
, why is that is a weapon in Shant is when Syria, when his best single target the oil is better for multi-
10 to keep seeing that you have the honor that
I think I looted it, yeah, I think I looted it.
loot the console, yeah he'll open it in a sec, there we go
cool got it
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
Ooh, I feel like this boss is going to be kind of crazy unheroic.
Hunters out, let's go.
I prefer to play range generally speaking, but I'm playing melee right now
Whoo
Wow, these are big boys
Holy crap, these are like little mini bosses, huh?
I even need the Slow Trap?
You know, I think I would need the Slow Trap if we were in like blood furnace or something, but maybe not here with some of these packs.
Did he get the helm yet? We got the helm and we got Blade of the Archmage.
I'm missing like three pieces of gear shield belt and ring and so we're like pretty much
a hundred percent there.
This is gonna be fun with Meila?
Yeah, this'll be interesting.
I haven't done this place on Heroic yet.
This seems like be a very interesting boss.
Clear more so you get lost.
That'd be a good idea.
Nice, nice.
Nice.
Krupa saying we need lust.
Alright, we're clear for Luz then.
And Pally Threat with this much spell power is so cooked, like, I literally just put down AoE and I have Threat.
Like, cooked in a good way.
Bro, we're doing, we're doing like, a thousand DPS on that pull.
What even is that?
of
How do you tank this?
Okay, I'm gonna boss out of that now.
Oh!
Hey, that worked.
Okay.
Oh my gosh, that was the war you're not dead.
Wow, so you need a lot of space. Oh, on heroic, there's three of them, huh? I'll just pop here.
And taunt.
Wow, you need so much space on heroic? Oh my gosh, no wonder. No wonder we cleared all this, man.
Who's looting? Wow, that's a tough fight.
that is a very tough fight once again guys our group is ever everyone in our
group is locked in it except me
okay just manapod that and pop trinket see what we got here
okay
okay there we go
These these poles are fun. I like the four poles
We don't have T-Clap we just send a demo shot, and I don't need any CC at all
He's learning
Yeah, yeah, dude if everyone wasn't completely locked in bro who pulling man
We're who we're ummed out dude
Guy big damn big damn
Okay, here's the thing.
Enhance needs salve, or else he's going to die.
I salved him up.
Okay, he died.
Nice.
Okay, we're killing?
Yeah, we're chillin
Son now
Nice kick
we're locked in we're dying my hands brought some crazy land hands value right
there huh oh
bubble canceled it Tom kill kill kill kill
Nice clean
Brothers no way there's another pack coming. No
Yo, yo kind of got it out kind of got it out kind of got it out kind of got it out kind of got it out kind of got it out
You've got to be kidding me we need mana regen
No, no nor hunter cannot die brother
That's insane that's insane
Guess he went for the slow
Probably should have just trying to kite that out
Yeah, we actually have this
Okay, here we go, here we go.
Okay, no more land hands, no more bubble.
Popping wings, kill, finish.
Hit kills on me.
No way.
Oh, that fear was clutch!
Oh my gosh bandage big bandage on me
Dude he stole my bandage
Please be a nitch brother!
25 seconds on my next health pot.
Dude that was a very good attempt.
Very good attempt!
I didn't even have that with the hunter.
I think...
and
why not the I said the thing about the I
is that it requires, um, symbol of divinities
And it requires you to put it on your action bar
We're not about any of that
All right, we are not about any of that no symbol of divinity these guys
We stay in and we kill or we die
Yep
Right there
We go again.
we go again.
Oh, the shaman had off the whole time, I think.
Okay.
Alright guys, so basically right here, this is a gauntlet.
We want to do is not actually start the gauntlet.
We want to stay back until everyone's ready and then we move in together.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right.
Yup, that's right.
Who started it prematurely?
That's not the point.
The point is it happened and we're going in together now.
That's the point.
All right, come on guys, let's lock in a dial.
There's people missing the point man, I can't believe it.
Here we go.
Oh, we're at the end already?
Man, this place is short.
Instead of this feeling of worry, you see that?
I know he's parsing.
We got to predispel the warrior, man. Insta!
Yep, this looks good. This looks very nice.
This looks very, very, very nice.
This looks very, very, very, very good and nice.
This looks very nice and good.
Oh crap, we can't even shrink after that one?
Okay, I'm actually completely tapped here.
It's gotta be a mana pot then.
Insta, just fell on the show, guys. Insta. Arcane Servant, those things kind of slap,
I'm not going to lie. Those things blow up heavily in big time. I think I might just
seal a wisdom, actually. The rare seal of wisdom here. We have good threat, we want
more mana. Hunter's capped, Crease is half. Okay, let's drink up for a minute here.
What's it like at 70? Should I keep my Druid as a Feral Tank or switch to Resto?
Either one. Tanks and healers are pretty locked in and dialed.
maybe little easier to find a group as a tank but people seem to really like the
Pali tanks there we go this is this is the damage we've been we've been
waiting for. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Look at that TPS man. Wow.
Silent stop. Hand cards of the steady. Okay, someone's got to need that. And canner's cowl.
Moulton Kilt, this for warrior? Huge.
All right, um, you guys want to do a quick Steam Vaults? I feel like I didn't
know this dungeon so it was tough to test how good this was shaman was the only
one that needed a crash to shaman on the gloves for all
okay I don't know what to think about that I don't know what to think about
this last run that was like my first melee cleave that was also my first
time tanking mech. I didn't know all the mechs. So I feel like I was kind of just I didn't I was
kind of learning the dungeon on heroic. We did die once or twice. It felt okay, but it was kind of
just a weird dungeon. Yeah, the priest says that was probably the toughest dungeon as a melee
If that's what I'm saying, I feel like if we did like shattered halls where we could just kind of blast
Like that place is not
Super friendly, I think
I think I want to do a steam vaults real quick before getting off. I think we could do a quickie steam vaults
We might need a new healer
Each day is a present.
Safety.
I think everyone can do steam volts except our priests. I think the healer is already saved.
Let me see if we can get a new healer.
Does anyone want to heal a quick steam volts?
Manitoum is blasted with melee cleave? Dude, I don't have the key for it.
Which shrink is somebody going to use for the raid?
I'll probably use either figurine of the colossus or adamantate figurine paired with styliens.
I'm not sure yet though.
depends on how I switch the gear around, it depends on what exactly happens with the scenario
in circle ring and the belt if it drops and stuff like that.
Vick-Erene is batten-raid.
It's more for the avoidance.
The 32 shield block is insane.
the most like avoidance. Not revered at lower city prom, literally friendly I think. It's
crazy. Um, oh crap. Good thing we got Bob. Does anyone want to heal steam vaults? Yo thanks
Thanks for coming, safety.
I think Shaz has a healer.
Oh, crap.
They silence
One sec
Do we need a priest for steam volts on the silence mobs? I'm trying to think it is kind of annoying
Does freedom prevent silence, I don't think so
Don't you have a flying mount
Yeah, I forgot can you show talents please here you go
I
Always forget fly around there, too. Dude. I'm so used to swimming there, man
Your face was covering them, I think you can see everything. Yeah, you should be good
What healer is best priest or shaman I really like playing with rest or shamans
I feel safe with a Rester Shaman. Although, I was just playing with that Priest for a while and that Priest kept me up too.
I also like playing the Druids. I like Rester Druids a lot.
I think the only healer I don't like playing with is a Holy Pally.
I think that's like the one that I'm just like, okay.
Waiting for a heal.
I think that the healer I feel the safest with, ironically is the druid I think.
When I have three blooms on me, I just know I'm not going to die, period.
There's no amount of damage that can kill me through that, because it's constantly rolling.
So say I get spiked, I'm already constantly rolling with heals.
It's like really hard to die with a Russo Druid I think.
Like yeah, like two ad-hubs would still kill me through triple blooms, but then that's my fault, right?
Like if I'm taking two ad-hubs, that's my fault.
That's the way I see it.
You'll be wanting that Holy Pallicum Raid time.
Why are Holy Pally so good in raids? Because that's actually not the first time I've heard that
I'm kind of curious what's the deal with Holy Pally's and raids they just tank spam
They're just constantly flash flash flash flash
Yeah, I actually made Holy Pally back in original TBC and my raid leader told me do nothing except spam
flash of light on the tank and I just I remember doing that man I actually have a video of me at
like 14 years old just spamming flash shield on the tank over and over and over
okay so this is a melee cleave again round two this time it's in a dungeon that I'm somewhat
familiar with let's see how it feels it's also a dungeon that um I think is like a little less
annoying for the melee cleave as well. So this problem is the siren silence, we have no dispel.
So hopefully the uh,
you know what I will say is it's harder to hold aggro with the melee cleave because the damage
is spikeier. When I'm playing with a mage they just pop a blizzard and it's super easy to hold
aggro
Because the blizzard isn't gonna rip when I'm playing with a lock
They throw out a bunch of seed of you know seeds, but the seeds don't rip right away either
Because it takes a while to pop you know what I mean
Just famous for myself
With a melee cleave, though, like the shaman or the warrior can get a windfury proc, run
in, and just insipole.
You know what I mean?
Like the aggro definitely feels a bit harder on the melee cleave.
Seed is weird, a blast, but it doesn't feel aggro hungry.
Well, the tank gets so much time to develop threat before the seed.
Usually threats fine as long as you have a little bit of time to build threat, right?
The healer goes please god mana real quick. Sorry dude
Okay, this will be interesting with no CC
T clap demo slow trap
Let's lock it
It's completely fine.
Oh, that pet is pulling the entire dungeon.
And it pulled nothing.
Oh wow, we just got so lucky.
Oh, well that could have been bad.
That could have been bad, but it wasn't.
Oh my gosh.
I'm going to health paw here.
Taking two member dances, kind of no joke, so we'll see if I can do this.
Hopefully we don't pull that.
Wow, this came a little further than I thought, not going to lie.
We taunt.
We stun.
It's fine.
And a bubble cancel.
For a bubble cancel, it's actually a really good cooldown in Heroics.
I didn't even realize it, but...
Just giving my healer like one second of immunity, and if I bubble,
well with a melee cleave, someone can get one shot, but in a castor cleave,
you know, there's a long time for that mob to actually get to the castor,
So I could bubble, immunity, chill, cancel, and I'm full HP, you know, it's almost like a laying hands.
I think that Oracle's the one that fears, not the Siren.
Maybe it is the Siren.
Okay, 10 seconds silence, no bubble.
Yeah, having no silence is falling here is brutal.
So I think ideally we would want like a priest.
It's very sloppy, very, very sloppy, but it's working.
Very sloppy.
Nice.
Are you guys not dialed or something?
I don't know man.
It's like the 15th heroic of the day.
My brain is... yeah.
Why Salva and Healer?
I just didn't fix my palli power
Pro, look at everyone's DPS on this.
Right, it's just cracked too.
I mean Melee's pretty nice when it's
like comes to boss time, I think.
Okay.
Uh, we're gonna do the swim since we have shamans.
I haven't done this.
I haven't done swim skip. I've heard about swim skipping, but I haven't actually done it.
So instead of crossing the bridge and killing that, you can like come up and just kill the boss, I'm assuming?
It skipped one mob. Uh...
Maybe it's only worth it if you have a shaman for water walking
My warrior goes it skips two packs twitch chat so unbearable. It's insane fake news
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Wow
I don't think we can kill both at the same time.
Oh
My group is talking crap that I do that wrong what happened
What did I do?
Wow, steam vaults is quick.
I forgot.
I should definitely do steam vaults every day.
This place is so fast.
We're in combat from something.
Oh, there we go.
There we go.
So we're like 8k out of 21k on scenario expedition.
We have the rest of this dungeon and then tomorrow we could do all of the scenario interrupts and then we could buy the rest and get the ring tomorrow for probably like 200 gold or something.
I think.
After this heroic and two more tomorrow or three more tomorrow rather.
Oh look at that. One step closer. Got another armament.
How about lower city rep tomorrow? Lower city can wait man. We need to
Exalted with scenario for the ring
Dude look at look at this damage we're blasting look at it look at the look at the meters dude. Okay. Never mind some warriors blasting
Dude everyone's blasting holy moly
Oh my gosh, okay the melee cleaves kind of melt the bosses. I will say that
Maybe this boss is kind of generally gets owned but look at that look at the meters on that pole, dude
not bad wait a minute we have to run back this way anyway
I almost pulled those odds but I didn't so we're locking a dial then.
for free. I do think on these, I need something. Yeah, the slow
shop is good here
I
All right, so we do this pack
There's a patrol coming through
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Okay, we need like big slows here for sure
Okay, yes, it's a dude the shaman just ripped right instantly on the pull there I
Think that's what I don't like playing with
With with shaman as much as they rip threat on pole like they can just do that
Just rip through it on pull instantly and it's not even their fault. They just got like a lucky win fury
boom
When you're playing with casters, it's like the damage comes a little slower, you know
Okay, so there's a siren and an oracle this this bulls actually pretty tough here
That patrol behind us turns around, right? Yeah, it does.
Yeah, I mean, that works, though.
Zero CC may like leave obviously we use the slow trap
It does work it definitely does work
and
not crap
10 seconds silence here, and cancel the silence as God of the worth it
Yeah, that has to have to have been worth it
Nice kind of the coil thing armaments as well. Okay one more of those bowls. Oh
We can skip that
I've never skipped this one, but I think that seems legit, especially since we have so much DPS in this group
All right
I am about to palm look at look at the single target meters right now men
Oh reflect, okay don't look at him anymore.
Bro single target meters by the way look at that tank single target.
We are BLASTING 600 DPS single target, man.
Okay, now I'm in 650 DPS single target, dude, I mean, it's gotta be something.
I demand a pot for the Parse.
Kill, kill, kill, kill.
Nice.
We're getting the Silver Hand.
I need to replace this thing, actually.
Agi Sam?
I...
Boom.
All right, I have to say after running with the melee cleave, I personally am under the
opinion now that I've done castor cleave and melee cleave that castor cleave is superior.
That's what I think.
There it is, guys.
There it is.
That's what I think.
Castor cleave, I believe to be a little superior.
But I will say this, I'm a Paladin.
I'm built to tank for casters.
If I was a Druid or a warrior, that might not be the case.
For a Druid, I think building like Hunter Warrior
enhanced Druid is like probably pretty sick.
So for the Pali, I think my favorite group
with the Pali is with a Shadow Priest still.
I like the Shadow Priest a lot.
I'm a little biased, but the Shadow Priest with the mana back is so sick.
Okay.
So I think that's where things end for today.
We put ourselves in a pretty good spot.
So we have nine badges of justice,
which means tomorrow, if we want,
I think we could get the shield from Badges tomorrow.
If we want, we could get this tomorrow.
If we want.
Do we want this?
Looks pretty cool.
Shatar is even better.
I don't know if I can get Shatar Exalted unless we actually spam Normals.
I mean we have three more Heroics.
I mean maybe between three more Shatar Heroics plus like a couple normal runs we actually
could.
And we'd save the badges for something else.
I don't know I'm also thinking that for sure we could get a we could get the
scenario in a ring tomorrow I'm halfway through a rear scenario we have three
scenario heroics tomorrow plus then we just do coil thing our room in turn ins
three heroics plus coil thing our intern ins I think we guarantee ourselves
ring tomorrow. We can also maybe get the belt if it drops in Black Marass. So we'll do Black Marass,
we'll do hopefully all three heroics for the ring and then from there we'll feel out the vibes
if we want to get the Shatar shield or the other shield. Once we get the ring, the belt and the
shield guys and we're fully 100% pre-bissed out. Just in time for Kara's hand. You don't
value the badges. I feel like I don't value badges that much. Technically I still want
Icon of the Silver Crescent but I don't think I can really use it yet anyway. Do this
scenario ring and Ark runs could be the move could be the move could be the move I don't
know the the shield has a cooler transmog it glows and it matches my sword a little
one is fantastic Griffin. Thanks so much for the prime dude. That is true. The
shatar shield looks ugly and is a more boring farm. 22 batches adjusted. That's
like a couple heroics and we're done.
where do you have the propolyguide let me link it for you
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.
There you go.
Bum bum bum.
Man, what a day of gearing up, dude.
gearing up fell armaments technically I need fell armaments turn ins too
wouldn't catch me with that bad shield gross couldn't be me really brother bad
shield is I kind of like how it looks looks kind of nice if you guys missed
today we got Blade of the Archmage, Bracers of Dignity, and Faceguard of
Determination. Triple Epics today. Triple.
You will have the Chitaurip by Thursday 100%. Yeah, if I just do the
If I just do the heroics be pretty darn close 14 gold or I'm disenchanting that for sure
Lower city mace is better, but I'm friendly with lower city
Unfortunately, so the lower city mace is definitely just not happening
Definitely not happening
Yeah
TBC has you by the balls yet the TBC is very fun. I will say this though and this is true
for any version of WoW not just TBC the pre raid grind is always super fun where WoW generally
falls off is after you get pre raid miss and you start to raid log that's usually
when WoW gets a little more boring. So yes, this is very fun, but we're getting to the
end of it. We're almost a raid log. It's been a fun time, though. So one week, well, like
pre-patch into leveling, into normals, into heroics, into the first raid for the first
few weeks, all of that. So like, what is that, two months or something? Very fun.
And then yeah, then if you swan, then that's when you roll it all to exactly.
We're amped, bro.
Amped.
I'm gonna keep those coil thing I remember it's on me cool bags look locked in and tiled
alright guys until tomorrow tomorrow we're hunting for the belt the shield and the ring
It could happen.
See what happens.
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We're right there.
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And we go Gruel's into Karaz.
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