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Good morning, Shaft.

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Good morning chat and happy Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, September 10th, guys this

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is the final stream pre BlizzCon, the final stream pre BlizzCon flying out tomorrow morning

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early so today's stream is actually going to be a bit shorter too, final stream pre

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blue scone. It is here, guys. It is here. Basically, holy crap. I'm so excited. What

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color t-shirt for blue scone? I'll probably wear this exact t-shirt at blue scone. This

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is going to be a black tee, of course. It might be brown, depending on how I'm feeling.

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I'll probably pack like two black tees, two brown tees, just pick one for the day and

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kind of send it. I'm going to be streaming at blue scone. Yeah.

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Stream from blizzcon possible. That's the plan. That's the plan

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The exact dates and times and this and that I'll try to let you guys know in discord

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But yeah, the plan is me and greet at blizzcon streams from blizzcon

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That's what's happening at blizzcon should be a time

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Sorry, you're gonna shower. Yes, I'm gonna shower absolutely gonna shower big old leak reddit post today

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Of course the classics the leaks. Hello, it's Arvina block Zambini. Thanks for T1

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Welcome on in who else has come in soda poppins. I think soda should be there. Yeah

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I think so I think so

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Bum bum bum bum bestie. Good morning. Hi. Hello. What's going on?

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Pika yeah Pika should be there dude there should be a lot of people there it

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should be sick should be pretty nice what if they don't announce classic plus I

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would be brutal any high elo are you gameplay today potential actually

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probably not today man it's just too close to the con comfort hash good

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morning what's going on when you leave it I'm leaving tomorrow morning so our

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to a short little stream today tomorrow morning we will be flying on out it's

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pretty crazy man pretty crazy it's gonna be a sick live stream with everyone

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there yeah should be a lot of fun man

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wwoo saf petri out oh this is from a viewer okay let's see don't forget about

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your prime see that yo prime subs are free generic thanks to the prime man

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Nah, I'm going solo, Zenshin. My schedule's gonna be kinda nuts. It's gonna be kinda crazy, so I'm going solo.

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Brand new classic HD moment just dropped. Ooh, we can check that out.

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Am I going to Ezfans party tomorrow night? I think I'm gonna try to stop in, but we'll see.

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Like, what's going on.

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But...

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Yeah, I think, I think that's the plan.

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Um...

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Where's BlizzCon this year? It's in Anaheim.

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It's always in Anaheim this year though, it's in September instead of November, which is kind of weird.

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Any- uh, anyone live in Anaheim? I was looking at the weather yesterday and it's like 100 degrees in Anaheim.

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What the heck is going on with that, man? Like, like actually, what the heck is going on with that?

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How is that real? Yeah, it's like never that hot in Anaheim. I feel like, well, I guess sometimes in the summer,

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but like it's September, like I don't know what's happening.

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Thanks for reading YouTube chat, of course, Alki.

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You're used to that in Arizona. Yeah, I'm used to that in Arizona, but when we go to California, it's supposed to be colder. What the heck?

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That's gonna be it's gonna be so hot dude, I actually can't believe it

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Is the main event being streamed anywhere. I think it's just on the Blizzard channel or the Warcraft channel or both or something

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I don't know I

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I live in Anaheim. It's super humid too. Wild weather going on. Well, shoot. Oh well. Dang.

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That's crazy. Not an American. What does an average Arizona summer and winter usually

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look like summers on average are like a hundred degrees Fahrenheit like on a good day. So like

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37 Celsius on a good day on a really bad day like can get close to 50 Celsius on like a really

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like super, super high heat day. A lot of the times it's in that 40 to 50 Celsius range in the summer

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In the winter, winters are pretty nice here.

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It's like 26 Celsius, 80 Fahrenheit, it's kind of nice.

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50 is crazy, yeah.

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We live in one of the hottest places on planet Earth.

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Not the hottest, but up there.

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That's where I live.

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Yeah.

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That's the concrete melt.

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It can, I think.

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Stuff happens at that.

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Why are you saying Celsius?

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It's because a lot of people are in Europe

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and they don't use Fahrenheit there.

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there. And the guy that was asking wasn't from the US. He said not an American. So I assume

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he wants the answer in Celsius. So I just did a quick Google conversion. So there we go.

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I hate not having four seasons. Yeah. Arizona where I live, you basically have two seasons.

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You have like a 10 month summer and then like a two month winter. Actually, no, it's

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more like a, like an eight to nine month summer and then like a three to four month

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winter. There's no, there's like a, like a one day spring, one day fall. And like, yeah,

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it's pretty much, pretty much it. Hey, that's like Texas. Is it similar? I haven't spent

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too much time out in Texas.

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Do we ever get snow here? Very rarely. I've lived here my whole life or a moat, not

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my whole life, a lot of my life. And I think I've seen snow like a couple times. I remember

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like one time on like Easter, it snowed like 15 years ago or 20 years ago or something.

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It was like, oh my gosh, like that was a big deal. But like pretty darn rare, man. Would

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I prefer a colder climate? I mean, yeah, I think so. I wouldn't want it like too cold.

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Like California weather is like pretty, pretty nice. That's why like I'm talking

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I'm not being as cold as I was going on there.

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Do do.

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Do you ever plan on leaving to another state?

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We talk about moving all the time.

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The big thing is like we have a two and a half year old

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and my wife's family's here, my family's here.

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My parents are here, my grandma's here,

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my aunt and uncle are here.

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Shannon's brother and wife are here.

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Like we have like a whole like network of family here

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and with the baby, or I guess not like with the toddler.

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It's like, yeah.

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Family's nice, but one day, one day we'll move, I think.

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One day we'll move, I think.

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Come move to Minnesota.

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I actually, dude, I have some family on Minnesota.

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I've visited, when's the last time I visited Minnesota?

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I guess it's been a few years now.

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We plan to do a Minnesota trip at some point soon.

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I actually like it out of Minnesota for the summer.

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I don't think I would live there though.

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The winters are brutal.

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California's best for the U.S.,

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like there's nice things about California,

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then not so nice things about California,

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but California's like, I mean I was born in California,

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I have family in California too.

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My sister's out there, like California,

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there is some nice stuff.

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That's the weather, I mean you can't really beat it man.

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Yo, Payo, what's going on?

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Dude, Payo, is there anything I can do

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to convince you to last minute

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I'm going to go to the top on an airplane and meet me at BlizzCon tomorrow.

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Peo?

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Peo?

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LMAO?

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No, I love you though.

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Peo, I would love to meet you one day.

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This was a great opportunity to come meet the boys.

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Peo.

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Peo.

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Peo.

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Next time, next time, next time, next time, next time.

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Celcius was invented in Sweden 1742 by Anders Celcius.

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There it is.

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The more you know.

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Did not know that.

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Yo, thanks for the sub.

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Payo is not allowed in the U.S. after the incident.

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Oh, that's what it comes down to.

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Okay, rip.

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Gift him 10 gifted.

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Payo, I will gift you 10 gifted subs

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if you come to the U.S.

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One day, Payo.

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It would be fun bro, it would be fun but it's all good.

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Oh my gosh.

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Meet Peekaboo, BlizzCon, yeah Peekaboo will be there.

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I'm excited.

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Who else bro?

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There are so many people I wanna say hi to.

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So many people.

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I have like a list of people I wanna say hi to.

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G-Bay's gonna be there, I really wanna say hi to G-Bay.

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Ozzy Falls is gonna be there,

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Pops is gonna be there, Ziko, Ezfan, Ampy, is crazy.

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Glad you're enjoying it.

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Yo, Matori, thanks for the prime, dude.

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I'm amped.

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Legit, can't wait.

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Kuzu's gonna be there.

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Yeah, Savics, yes, Ziko, yes.

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It's gonna be a good time, man.

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Sardocco's gonna be there.

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Sardocco's a good friend of mine.

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Can't wait to see him.

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I've actually never met him.

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Johnny is gonna be there.

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Yeah.

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Ampey, Veneruque.

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I hope Cidu and Bean.

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Showback, I believe it's gonna be there.

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I'm excited to meet Showback.

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Shibae.

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Yeah, it's gonna be sick.

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Do, do, do.

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Soda, yeah.

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I'm going to stream at BlizzCon.

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Yes.

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That's the plan.

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This BlizzCon start tomorrow.

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I'm flying out tomorrow.

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The first day of BlizzCon is Saturday.

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Do you think this is going to be one of the Blizzards biggest BlizzCon?

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I don't know.

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There's a lot of hype for this one because there hasn't really been like an actual

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BlizzCon in seven years.

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There was the one in 2023, but there was like no AWC

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and it was kind of like felt scrapped together.

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I don't know, that one felt a little off.

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So I feel like there hasn't been a real,

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like a real like exciting one since 2019,

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which is seven years ago pretty much.

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And then like the classic announcement was

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at the 2017 one classic era.

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So I don't know.

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We'll see.

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We'll see.

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I feel like it's very hype.

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Yeah, I don't know if Athena's going.

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I don't know.

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They built the hype for this one pretty well.

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I think it's just been such a long time.

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Like if we've had BlizzCon's every year for the last seven, I don't know if it would

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be this hype.

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We were actually watching a YouTube video.

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Crap.

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Was it Preach?

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I think it was Preach's video yesterday.

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he was saying, if there was a BlizzCon last year,

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we probably already would have known about Classic Plus.

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But there hasn't been a BlizzCon in like basically seven years.

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Well, let's call it three, I guess.

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So we just don't, like there's just so much hype

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because it's like there hasn't been one in so long

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that people are like, what's going on?

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What's happening to mop?

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What's happening to TBC?

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What's happening with Classic Plus?

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Like we need all of these things answered

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so people are excited.

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But if we had a BlizzCon last year,

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we probably would have had answers

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to some of these questions already,

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so there probably would be less hype.

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Anyway, what I'm trying to say is it's hype,

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but I think it's mainly hype

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because we haven't had one in so long.

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Really is what it is.

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What was the moment you knew you made it as a streamer?

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So I have like two answers for this.

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The first one was like, okay,

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I'll give you the real answer first,

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and then like, actually an even more real answer second.

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So the first answer is just answering the question

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at face value.

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When I hit a thousand subs for the first time,

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I felt like to myself that I,

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I like all the time was worth it

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because a thousand subs meant I was only making

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a little bit less than I would at other jobs I turned down.

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So like that's pretty good.

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So like that was a really big moment for me.

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So like that's the face value answer.

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The non-phase value answer, which is even the more real answer,

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is that the way content creation works

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and the way that entertainment industry works in general

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is you're only relevant until you're not relevant.

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You're only as relevant as your last stream

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and your last video,

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and people will forget about you like that.

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It's the same in acting.

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It's the same in music.

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It's the same in like any type of like comedy.

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It's the same as anything.

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So all of you guys will forget about me

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as soon as I'm not relevant anymore,

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which will happen one day and I'm very aware of that.

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So I don't really ever think about,

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oh, I've permanently made it

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because that's not how it works.

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That's just not how it works.

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So that's the real answer.

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Yeah.

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Do-do-do.

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Um, Shadow, thanks for the tier 129 month, but it hasn't happened yet. Not yet.

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Oh, man.

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You're gonna get back to League soon. I'll play more League at some point, but I don't know when.

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Advocacy! What's happening, man?

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Who is this guy on my screen again?

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Oh!

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Royal!

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Thanks for the prime for five months.

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Appreciate it.

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Heading up to Anaheim today.

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Woohoo!

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Maybe I'll see you there, man.

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I'm flying out tomorrow.

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We're going to do a short stream today.

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Get packed up.

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Get ready tonight.

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We're heading off early in the morning.

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We're going to fly into LAX and get there.

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tomorrow should be chill Saturday Sunday should be busy as heck and we'll kind of

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go from there

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I'll be there solo generic. I'm just gonna be like way too busy shout out to show out

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Xiao from Brazil.

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There we go.

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Long Beach is a better airport to fly into.

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Yeah, I wanted to fly into a closer airport,

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but there isn't any flights from where I live

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to that airport without a layover.

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So then I could like,

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I, so I have three options.

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I can fly out of Tucson to LAX, which I did.

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I can fly to Tucson with a layover to the closer airport,

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but then I have a layover, so it's longer anyway.

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Or I could drive to Phoenix and fly from Phoenix

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to the close airport,

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but then driving to Phoenix takes like an hour and a half.

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So I just went to some LAX or whatever.

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Private jet, obviously.

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I mean, that's what I normally do, but I don't know.

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Didn't take the jet this time around, I guess.

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John Wayne with a layover is better than LAX all day.

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Maybe you're right.

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Yeah, maybe, honestly,

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maybe I should have just sent the layover.

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What's the biggest non-wild thing you're looking forward to this weekend?

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The problem with layovers is you can get delays, and if you get delays you just miss your whole flight and then you're kind of screwed

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Like a layover is just for a dude. It's a one-hour flight. A layover for a one-hour flight is like so silly

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You know what I mean?

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LAX does suck. I actually yeah, I fly into there here and there and it's annoying.

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I don't think LAX is that bad. What? Bro LAX is brutal

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Actually, you know what flying out of LAX isn't that bad

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It's when you're flying in and then you need to go to like get your luggage and then go to ground ground

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Transport and you have to like walk everywhere and it's just so crowded and you have to take a bus to get to another bus to another bus to another bus

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It's like

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Brutal

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But if you're if you're getting picked up at the street, I guess it's not that bad

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Like if you have a friend to pick you up from LAX

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Getting to the rental cars a trip. Yeah, I've taken a rental out of LAX to and it's like to get to the rental place

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It's like multiple shuttles and this and that and you have to like is yeah, it's it's a process. It's a process

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Learn how to travel haha carry on your luggage and uber haha

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Ah, goodness gracious, this guy's never been to LAX,

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this guy's never been to LAX.

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Yo Chris, thanks for the tier one sub.

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Good morning brother, what's the biggest non wow thing

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you're looking forward to this weekend?

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Meeting you guys, meeting my friends online,

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like, I wish Paya was going, but like,

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seeing Ampey meeting Sardocco, meeting Ossie Falls,

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Pops, right, Taylor, like, I can't wait to just,

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Like that's the biggest thing.

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That honestly is what makes the event

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even more than anything else,

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like then the event itself.

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Illuminations, thanks for the T1, appreciate it.

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LAX as a pilot, I like it, but I get it for passengers.

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Yeah, I'm sure as a pilot, it's way different.

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I see pilots, they kind of just like skip every line,

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you just kind of walk right in, it's nice.

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Am I staying at the Hilton?

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I, wait, I actually was gonna tell you guys,

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but maybe I shouldn't tell you where I'm staying.

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probably not a big deal but yeah maybe I shouldn't you know holy thanks for the

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prime yeah don't yeah maybe it's not a good idea to tell you what I'm saying

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probably doesn't matter but maybe I won't yeah maybe I won't what's your

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room number yeah definitely not doing that I looking forward to meet or see

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anyone in particular? Yeah. A lot of people. I like G Bay. Very like if I can meet G Bay,

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that'd be sick. I'm not in touch with him though. So I'll have to like randomly stumble

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across him, I think.

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Cryptic. Thanks for the G1. Am I bringing the family? No, I'm going solo. He's staying

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at the Rich Carlton after he gets off the private jet. Dude, I just said I don't

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want to tell anyone. Um, um, um, um, this is my first bliss.

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Kind of nervous to meet people. Dude, it's a good time.

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Like it's just a good time. Oh, I guess I was thinking about

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about this the other day in a in the car I was thinking about this the other day

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because like this year we're going to BlizzCon and you know we have this meet

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and creed and some streams and stuff and like it's exciting it's really

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exciting and I was reflecting on my first BlizzCon and bro my first

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BlizzCon that was different my first BlizzCon I was like how old was I? I was probably 18

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What year was it? It was

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2013 2012 or something like that

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however old that makes me I was like 18 I had like zero money and like obviously it wasn't like a like a big streamer or anything either so I

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Just kind of went and showed up and I slept in like the

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I didn't have money for like a hotel or anything

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or like a BlizzCon ticket.

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I kind of just showed up at the event.

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So I just slept out on like the floor of like my friends

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like what's it called, like room I guess.

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And then each night I just kind of like couch served

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on like a bunch of people's like couches and floors.

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Yeah, Mitch Jones lent me his bed one for a couple hours

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on one of those BlizzCons.

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And then we just kind of like literally have like

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a BlizzCon ticket either, so I kind of just like went there

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and like, these are things that are fun to do

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when you're like 18 and you have like, yeah, zero cash,

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you're like 18 or 20 and you just kind of like,

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I bought like a $100 plane ticket, flew out

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and just, I think I caught a ride with like NMP

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and NMP bought the Uber or bought the taxi back then

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or whatever it was and like,

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Then I just I like stayed with other people and they're like

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Yeah, it was fun dude. It was fun though. I remember it to this day, you know, it was fun

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Did you just hang out outside the event?

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So BlizzCon back then like 13 years ago was a little different

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Like I

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There's got to be some statute of limitations on this but like I like back then it was a different time

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time. So back then we just figured out a way to get inside. And he snuck in no way. Yeah,

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no, actually, though, I think it's a lot harder to sneak in now. Like, I think it's a lot harder.

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Back then things were so different. You just kind of like could kind of just like go in.

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I was like, yeah, no, you broke the law?

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No, I, no, guys, I wasn't talking about me.

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I was saying that 13 years ago,

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my friend might have done that.

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It wasn't me.

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You guys misunderstood, unbelievable.

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But yeah, dude, it was a good time, man.

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It was a good time.

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I remember like just staying up late.

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We were hanging out at the Hilton lobby,

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Sheraton lobby, all the rank one players

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we're just talking about, oh dude,

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this arena match from last week was so crazy

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and like, like who is they?

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I'm trying to think of like all these OG names, man,

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like Casca, Thugonomics,

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Rockus,

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who I'm trying to think like,

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like Wreckful,

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Soda, not Soda Poppin,

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but like, like Alex, Talbedar,

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You know all these guys it was just so fun, man. So fun.

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Should be a good time.

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Is BlizzCon mainly WoW or other Blizzard games as well? It's all Blizzard games, not just WoW.

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I will say this though.

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From every BlizzCon I've been to,

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the crowd is the loudest and most excited for the WoW announcements every time.

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I will say that there was a moment where like Starcraft 2 Finals was like really big, you know

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but like the people in the crowd at BlizzCon are clearly

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Wow fans. Yeah Starcraft 2 there was a moment like in 2012-2013 like Starcraft 2 Finals were more massive

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But it's not quite that way anymore than there was a moment where Overwatch Finals were pretty massive too

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But obviously it's not like that anymore, but like yeah wow is

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is, yeah, it's massive.

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There was a couple of years where Overwatch

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was definitely the main thing going on.

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I mean, there was Overwatch, the thing is kinda.

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There was Overwatch Finals, which were sick

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and exciting to watch in the arena,

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like when you go into the right.

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But the problem with that, it was hype,

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but it was still like when the announcements were going on,

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you could tell that wow was still the main thing.

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You know what I mean, like you could hear it from the crowd.

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2023 had more room for Overwatch

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and it was empty compared to the WoW areas.

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Yeah, the WoW areas are just always going crazy.

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Niau, 94.

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CDL plus announcement to all the insider info.

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I don't know what you're talking about,

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but yo, thanks for the two and one, three months out, man.

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I appreciate that.

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Blizzard wouldn't exist without WoW.

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Is that true?

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I mean, maybe they would,

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but it would look a lot different.

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This would probably kind of true.

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Look a lot different.

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WoW is, well, WoW kind of holds it together, I think.

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Oh my gosh, the book play nice about Blizzard is such a good read.

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I actually have that on my reading list, I might check that out.

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Nah, we're going solo cracker.

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All right, all right, all right.

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What's happening?

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What is happening?

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Wish me luck star driving the whole family from today at 2pm to Cali.

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Oh my gosh, legendary.

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You'll have a good drive.

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Have a good drive.

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How many hours is that?

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Yeah.

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I could, I could drive, but it's like eight hour drive, I think, which I don't want to

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do, so I'm definitely flying.

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Oh, news.blizzard.com, schedule, day one schedule, 10.30am opening ceremony, 12, wow what's next,

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two, building cutscenes in a wow, 245, wow what's next, two, 330, wow developer, X

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creator showcase 445 blizzcon community night.

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Esports day two schedule deep dive housing.

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World building art design design deep dive hardcore.

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What's next? That's exciting.

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Closing remarks, live performance, eSports, eSports.

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So I'm actually so excited for an AWC finals. Oh my gosh

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Watch BlizzCon live from home will be streaming select programming live for everyone streamer schedule

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What's your favorite streamers live from the show floor during blizzcon or live from the streamers channels?

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Check out the schedule below guys. I

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Didn't know this was out there, but we will be live

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At the con

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First I guess these hours. I guess these are the guests. These are some of the hours

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I'm going to be live Saturday September 12th 9 30 a.m. To 11 to 12 to one select 9 30 to 145 on Saturday

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So that's happening

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That is happening

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That is

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Happening so the one word. Thanks for the one stream

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Um wait, what am I gonna be playing on stream? I'm gonna be watching

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what's happening at, I'm going to be watching the day one schedule, so I'm going to be watching

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the opening ceremony on stream, and then I'll be watching World of Warcraft, what's next,

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And then...

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Okay, let's see what else this says.

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Bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom.

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Oh!

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Oh, oh cool!

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Meet and greet World of Warcraft streamers at Blizzcon!

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Hey!

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Blizzcon attendees can meet some of their favorites.

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Okay, so this is, this is out there.

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So, okay, sick.

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So, meet and greet.

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I guess I'm with Tyler1, Annie, Guzhu and myself.

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We're gonna be from, we're gonna be there

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from six to 645, day one.

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I need to get my schedule up to date

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because this is, I mean, assuming this is right,

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I need to get my hours right.

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Holy crap.

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Tyler1, the wild player, I think so, yes.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Saturday, September 12th, Max Scott hopeful fired up. Oh my goodness gracious. Oh my goodness gracious. Earn World of Warcraft rewards. Watch the AWC and MDI Grand Finals live.

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Helpful details for BlizzCon attendees. BlizzCon bundle. Okay, cool. When did this come out? When did this blue post actually get posted here?

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posted here. Is anyone read this? Wow, head. Oh, this came out like an hour ago. Yeah,

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this came out like an hour ago. Okay. I was like, I was, I was like, I didn't know this

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was even out there. I've been preaching it, have you? I didn't even see that. Yeah, so

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we're doing some stuff. We're doing some stuff. We're doing some stuff. We're doing

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some stuff. Definitely doing some stuff. It should be a good time.

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See, TravelsR? Y'all, thanks, man.

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Bum bum ba bum bum. Am I still banned from your meet and greets? Yeah, same rules as

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last time, Lemus. Same rules as last time.

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Um, when and where is the meet and create?

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So the win is right here, six to 645 PDT.

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Well, there's kind of tennis can be their favorite.

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Wow.

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Streamers during special main treat sessions in hall a day one hall a six to 645.

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That's where I'll be.

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Additionally, if you see me, come say hi.

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And additionally, additionally, I might do some unofficial stuff on Discord.

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Be like, I'm going to be hanging out here for a while.

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Come say hi if you want, kind of a thing.

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But this will be like the official meet and greet.

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Yeah.

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What's the dress code for your meet and greet?

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Bro.

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What?

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Don't even just...

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Be very grateful for that. Yes

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Everyone wear lulu lemon shorts and a crane black shirt. I mean that's what I'm gonna be wearing lulu lemon shorts and a black t-shirt

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Black l would see that's right because like I don't I'm not trying to overheat man

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What's the rating requirement you have to be high elo so I mean if you're playing league at least gold

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Where is BlizzCon at? It's in California. Anaheim, California. You're gonna deal with

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some weird weather. Yeah, apparently it's super hot out there. Can we get a Tyler 1 versus

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our height check at the meet and create? We might be sitting down at like the angles

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too, so it's kind of hard to see. Am I not nervous? I actually slept like a baby

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last night but two nights ago I was like up all night trying to think about

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scheduling stuff now that this is how it's actually good to see to be honest

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yeah there's definitely a little the schedule is a little different than I

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thought which is good

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do do do do do

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make sure to wear the boosters in your shoes I actually wear shoes that are

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completely flat. I wear like the uh like Vivo barefoot shoes so they're like they have no

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heel at all so you have zero drop and a wide toe box so like my feet can actually like grip

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the ground. One thing about them is like I actually have zero increase height from my

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shoes but who cares because they're nice because they're zero drop and I can feel the

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ground. So we got to win there. No, not the toe shoes, white toe box. Barefoot shoes can

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make tall people look shorter. Yeah, exactly. That's why I wear them, because I'm a little

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too tall sometimes. I wear the barefoot shoes to bring things back down to reality.

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This is how you do it.

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Um what else what else.

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What else what else.

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G-Bay is really tall and he wears like I wear the black team. He wears like the super bright team

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So it's gonna be like the opposite. I was actually thinking during my workout this morning that like like G-Bay is like my

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Kind of guy, you know what I mean?

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Like I really like G-Bay. I was I don't know why I was thinking about that this morning specifically

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But like I definitely like G-Bay a lot like he's just he's just like a good dude

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You know you can tell he's like very positive

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Trying to just get some good content out there, give his perspective, it's phenomenal.

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Yeah, very, very cool guy.

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Pika and Shambles? No, I mean Pika's cool too guys, I was watching Pika

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get completely smoked on the riff last night, like it's, it's just a different kind of vibe.

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Yep, completely different.

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I

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Don't trust anyone with 225 fishing before level 40 bro. She pays a legend

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Have I seen the latest you bet yeah, yeah, I

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Watched it once before stream once on stream and then once last night before I went to bed

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Yo Steph, thanks for the t13 months up in

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Yo, Fates, thanks for the prom.

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Yo, I'll try my best.

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Should be a good time.

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Should be a very, very good time.

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What else is going on, guys?

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There's this blue post from an hour ago.

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Do I even want to spend time on more leaks?

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How many?

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209 thumbs up.

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No, no, no, no, no, fake, let's see.

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Probably the best leak yet.

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I really like some of these ideas.

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Release date, December 8th, new HD textures, character models, not from retail, more matching

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Ciel smiley you should try the game that I think you would like it. Oh

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100 parts.com I actually played that a little bit. It actually is pretty fun. It actually is pretty fun. Thanks a little fiber

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Max is 60 no phasing levels seven new zones Gilneas Baler

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Northern Lordaeron

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Nazretara Mount Heishel storm feather island blood mall Hills new neutral race skyborne elves

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Skyborne elf classes warrior Pali mage priest rogue hunter

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No new class, but guardian specs for druids weaver for mage

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Wonder what that would mean and fernel for lock water for shaman

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Weaver's a healer. Okay healer spec. No, please. No, please. No

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The one thing from sod like I don't want healer mages

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The other three are tank specs and fernel tank spec lock

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Please no, what didn't we learn? I don't I don't want that dwarves can be shamans

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Torrens can be pallies come on undead pallies not Torrens oh gosh please be fake

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Nine new dungeons hive timber mob blood fang barrow dark whisper game to new

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raids stairs of destiny siege of Lordaeron those are that would be

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interesting picks versus just like doing stuff that's already kind of more

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more set in stone.

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Two new battlegrounds, battle for a winter spring.

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Blehh.

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Kurobashi rumble, that could be cool.

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Props reworked, more like retail.

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PvP ranking system reworked.

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More focus on skill, the time spent.

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Oh gosh.

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Auction house copied from retail.

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I actually would like that.

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New features, Cursed Dungeon.

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One Dungeon each day is Cursed,

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buffing all enemies health and damage,

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adding an Apex and Crease loot trumps.

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That's actually kind of a cool idea.

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Give you a reason to do a daily dungeon on it like a hard or daily dungeon

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That's actually kind of cool new feature supply effort war effort type system that requires the entire server to work together to accomplish

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Okay, that could be cool new feature hunts requires you to kill a certain rare name of our dungeons bail from level 20 a new feature tomb trials

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Deep sea fishing

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Gbay would like that that fagal invites you to join his crew for deep sea fishing

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new feature

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new feature achieves class campaigns that could be cool in-game shop with

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mounts and pets oh gosh if you buy new starcraft terran protocol you get a

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surged mount oh gosh see each of Lord Iran is the caverns of time raid the

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rates and open till January oldham is updated I think there's a lot of good

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Good ideas mixed with a lot of crappy ideas in this.

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I hope this is fake.

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I mean, there's a few ideas here

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that could be really good,

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but I hope generally this is fake.

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That's an AI post, yeah.

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Guys, one's in the chat if this is real and true.

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Two's in the chat if this is complete fake news.

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Pressing X yeah this this this looks kind of like bad enough to want to be fake

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except there there is a few things I like in here like there could be some

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cool stuff from this this is based on wishes and sod true what's this

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WU washed up Saf Petri out. Oh, no, what happened?

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Watch the run and don't get killed with don't get killed with move over.

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I need incoming heels. I've no incoming heels.

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Coffee's mail. I'll help you if you have it up.

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Shut it on me. I'm turning the boss needs to watch range needs to watch up turning the boss.

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I have no defensive buttons right now. Oh my god. Watch me watch me watch me. I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die

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You

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Bro Oscar I've seen a bunch of Oscar clips

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I've never seen him like kind of squirm at being low HP before

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Oscars normally the guy who's the last one to Petri and he's calm cool and collected and he's like

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I'm fine, I'm fine, everybody chill.

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But like this was the instance where he's like,

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I'm not getting heals, I have no cooldowns,

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like he actually saved his life there.

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If he didn't Petri, he was dead.

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If he didn't Petri, he was dead.

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He got the 700 life right here.

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You mean Petri?

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I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri,

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I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri,

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I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri, I Petri,

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Very clean.

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Oh, shit, what the fuck?

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I don't have extra petri way more people could have died there

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You guys hey focus up focus up make sure you guys

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Repetri when you can okay boss is coming to me repetri if you need you bosses coming to me

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If you need a petri come take bike. I've got an extra petri on me

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adult petri

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Yeah, he had to Petri. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't I don't think anyone can get mad at him for a meeting

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Like he absolutely had to Petri there

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There.

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Dang.

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Pops!

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Thanks for the tier one sub.

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Pops!

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I'll be looking forward to seeing you at BlizzCon.

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Wait, Pops, do I have you on Discord?

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Let me see.

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You have Pops.

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I don't think I have you on Discord.

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We need to get connected so we can meet up at BlizzCon at some point.

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Same here.

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What's your Discord, Pops?

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I don't know if you want to, like, give that out.

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Or I don't know if you can like I don't know if you're in my discord

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You could type in the general shout I can add you from that or something we got to get connected so we can chill at the con

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Whoo all right

01:00:08.340 --> 01:00:12.080
Yo, Karim thanks for the prime six months. Let's go. Oh

01:00:15.060 --> 01:00:21.580
Dude that CG death with drowning was brutal man brutal brutal

01:00:21.580 --> 01:00:28.580
Oh my gosh guys it's 10 a.m. too early to go to bed so I can wake up into tomorrow and

01:00:28.580 --> 01:00:30.580
go to Blizzcon.

01:00:30.580 --> 01:00:35.580
Yeah I think it's a little too early.

01:00:35.580 --> 01:00:43.580
I think I'm gonna wait a little longer.

01:00:43.580 --> 01:00:49.580
There we go.

01:00:49.580 --> 01:00:50.580
There we go.

01:00:50.580 --> 01:00:53.260
Thoughts on Petri and Hardcore?

01:00:53.260 --> 01:00:58.260
I've actually had a little bit of a change of heart

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when it comes to Petri and Hardcore.

01:01:01.620 --> 01:01:03.400
I have a kind of a nuanced answer to this,

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like everything I suppose,

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but as a viewer and as someone who watches Hardcore content

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it sucks because it removes the excitement of death, right?

01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:17.880
If you're watching someone raid and they just Petri out,

01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.120
like obviously that sucks.

01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:26.040
So the easy answer is just to say screw Petruy's,

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they're stupid.

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The reality with Petruy

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and the reality of hardcore rating is this.

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If you go to Ironforge Pro

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and you go to classic era

01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:48.400
And then you go to Hardcore, where is Hardcore?

01:01:53.080 --> 01:01:54.340
Hardcore is merged with Aira.

01:01:54.340 --> 01:01:56.680
How many weekly raiders do we have here?

01:01:59.080 --> 01:02:00.680
I wanna get this number right.

01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:08.600
TBC, Sodmop, White Main Thunderfury, Biggles,

01:02:08.600 --> 01:02:11.160
Fairbanks, Anathema, Bluma.

01:02:11.160 --> 01:02:12.340
Where is this?

01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:18.800
Is it not on here?

01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:19.800
It's not there anymore?

01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:20.800
Crap.

01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.400
Maybe it was there, but they must have removed it.

01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:24.400
Huh.

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:25.920
It's not on there.

01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:26.920
Weird.

01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:30.800
Anyway, I looked at it like a few weeks back or whatever.

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There's basically like zero people actually rating on hardcore.

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Like it almost doesn't exist.

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And you, it's kind of, it's like a couple thousand a week globally or something.

01:02:42.200 --> 01:02:44.160
like it's, or like even less, right?

01:02:44.160 --> 01:02:47.260
It's like very little people actually rate in hardcore.

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So the practicality to answer your question,

01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.360
the practicality behind Petri is it lets a couple thousand

01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.200
people a week actually rate and without it,

01:02:57.200 --> 01:03:01.280
there would be probably like actually zero, right?

01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.060
It allows people to, allows guilds to have

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a proper churn rate in the sense of

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if you don't have them, too many people would die

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And there would be like basically zero people rating

01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.000
in hardcore ever.

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And that's just how it would be.

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Petri allows there to be some level of,

01:03:20.040 --> 01:03:22.000
if you mess up, you can save your character's life

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that you spent hundreds of hours on or days on or whatever.

01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:29.240
So from a viewer's perspective, it sucks.

01:03:29.240 --> 01:03:31.960
But if you're actually the one rating

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on hardcore every week, which is very few,

01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.320
couple thousand in the world or whatever,

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Then it's probably a good thing.

01:03:43.640 --> 01:03:46.900
So I guess that's my opinion.

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Like it sucks to watch,

01:03:49.240 --> 01:03:51.040
but for the people actually raiding,

01:03:51.040 --> 01:03:53.880
I think they'd be like, yeah, like stuff happens

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and you can still die with Petri on certain fights.

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You can still die with Petri

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if you screw up the usage of it.

01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:01.920
Like it doesn't, it's not a complete, get out of,

01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.280
you know, so I don't know.

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There are guilds that raid without Petri

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and they stop rating after a month or two?

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Well, that's my point.

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Hardcore rating wouldn't exist without Petri.

01:04:13.640 --> 01:04:17.100
So I guess the answer is like, if you're anti-Petri,

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what that really means is like,

01:04:18.680 --> 01:04:19.600
you don't wanna see like,

01:04:19.600 --> 01:04:23.360
anyone rating in hardcore, essentially like basically zero,

01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.920
which like, that's a fair position to hold, I suppose.

01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.200
You could just say like, yeah, no one should raid.

01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:30.580
But like, I don't know.

01:04:30.580 --> 01:04:32.400
I think it's kind of cool that it allows

01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:37.360
skills to to raid, make some mistakes, and people can like,

01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:40.960
they can they can still kind of exist. Right. And like I said,

01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:42.920
there's literally only a couple thousand people in the world

01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:43.720
doing it. So

01:04:46.680 --> 01:04:49.720
Oh, I do a pop some my discord pops just send me a message.

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All right, sweet.

01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:03.400
Okay, cool.

01:05:09.240 --> 01:05:10.240
I was sick.

01:05:10.240 --> 01:05:17.520
There's also, uh, I've just got invited to another discord with a bunch of people in here, too.

01:05:18.240 --> 01:05:20.000
Oh, G-Bay's in here!

01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:21.400
Oh my gosh.

01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:24.400
G-Bay is in this discord.

01:05:25.680 --> 01:05:28.520
I just added G-Bay as a friend on discord.

01:05:28.520 --> 01:05:33.520
Let me check to see if he's accepted.

01:05:33.520 --> 01:05:37.080
Nope, not yet.

01:05:37.080 --> 01:05:39.080
He's probably busy.

01:05:39.080 --> 01:05:46.200
I'll check again in a minute, cool.

01:05:46.200 --> 01:05:47.200
Yeah, let me see.

01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:51.200
Yeah, he's probably doing something else right now.

01:05:51.200 --> 01:05:52.200
Okay.

01:05:52.200 --> 01:05:54.200
He'll probably accept soon, no stress?

01:05:54.200 --> 01:05:56.200
Yeah, true.

01:05:56.200 --> 01:06:03.440
All right. All right. Sorry, take the hint. No, I like, dude, I just, I just sent it a

01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:09.040
second ago. I'm sure you'll get around to it. It's whatever, man. It's whatever. Check

01:06:09.040 --> 01:06:24.400
again. Maybe I'll just keep it open on my other monitor. Holy crap, dude. Wow.

01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:42.400
I think there is like another reactor two from yesterday that we didn't get around to your true sound. Thanks so much for the prime dude am I alone but I feel like blizzards in a literal no win situation everyone wants different things and I feel like they're expecting classic plus to be their

01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:47.240
Am I alone but I feel like Blizzard's in a literal no win situation.

01:06:47.240 --> 01:06:49.880
Everyone wants different things and I feel like they're expecting Classic Plus to be

01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:52.120
their savior and it just won't be.

01:06:52.120 --> 01:06:55.120
I think you're absolutely right.

01:06:55.120 --> 01:06:56.240
Yeah.

01:06:56.240 --> 01:07:02.320
I think a lot of people are aware of this fact though that Blizzard's in this situation

01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.600
where no one can agree on what they want.

01:07:05.600 --> 01:07:06.800
Everyone wants something different.

01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:18.340
So that's why my saving grace is literally just let the people decide.

01:07:18.340 --> 01:07:19.340
Put it to a pull.

01:07:19.340 --> 01:07:21.100
It saves you, Blizzard.

01:07:21.100 --> 01:07:23.080
Like it actually just saves you.

01:07:23.080 --> 01:07:27.680
If you put it to a pull, it's just like, okay, we'll do what you guys want then.

01:07:27.680 --> 01:07:29.500
But it has to be a majority.

01:07:29.500 --> 01:07:30.500
Good luck.

01:07:30.500 --> 01:07:31.500
Let's build this thing.

01:07:31.500 --> 01:07:33.060
It just saves Blizzard instantly with the pull.

01:07:33.060 --> 01:07:38.100
It's the only actual way forward without Blizzard just getting pummeled into the dirt because

01:07:38.100 --> 01:07:41.740
it's not what I want when everyone wants different stuff.

01:07:41.740 --> 01:07:48.820
So that's why I keep saying that, but yeah, it's tough.

01:07:48.820 --> 01:07:54.780
Um, um, um, um.

01:07:54.780 --> 01:07:55.780
Sizzle!

01:07:55.780 --> 01:07:56.500
Thanks for the Prime, man.

01:08:03.060 --> 01:08:10.060
All right, what else has happened here? What else has happened in here?

01:08:10.060 --> 01:08:21.060
We watched the G-Bay, the Willy, Elwynne, Preach. I wanted to watch this Aiki video.

01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:25.060
We watched the Crandor. There was another Willy, and I think there's a new HC moments.

01:08:25.060 --> 01:08:27.060
I kind of wanted to watch this one, though.

01:08:27.060 --> 01:08:32.060
We are never going to stop doing the things people do.

01:08:32.060 --> 01:08:34.060
I'm seeing a socks

01:08:35.860 --> 01:08:37.860
Let's go over here

01:08:40.180 --> 01:08:45.940
Who is the target audience for classic plus I would say anyone who has ever

01:08:46.420 --> 01:08:49.620
played World of Warcraft or Warcraft in

01:08:50.220 --> 01:08:56.460
General Warcraft one two and three or World of Warcraft in their entire life and quit for any reason ever

01:08:57.140 --> 01:08:58.220
this

01:08:58.220 --> 01:09:00.220
this new product is

01:09:00.220 --> 01:09:03.980
Is there, oh, I quit because I didn't like this.

01:09:03.980 --> 01:09:06.900
Let me try this new thing, right?

01:09:06.900 --> 01:09:09.820
So anyone who's ever played wow and has quit,

01:09:09.820 --> 01:09:10.820
of course there could be,

01:09:10.820 --> 01:09:13.060
it could attract new players as well,

01:09:13.940 --> 01:09:15.460
but that's gotta be the minority, right?

01:09:15.460 --> 01:09:19.020
Like it has to be, like how many people

01:09:19.020 --> 01:09:22.140
have played wow at one point in their life and then quit?

01:09:24.140 --> 01:09:25.860
Like, I don't know.

01:09:25.860 --> 01:09:28.460
It has to be 100 to 200 million people, right?

01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:30.500
at least 100 million.

01:09:30.500 --> 01:09:35.500
So that's, that is the target audience.

01:09:36.260 --> 01:09:38.820
100 million plus people globally

01:09:38.820 --> 01:09:42.980
that have quit Waufer one reason or another

01:09:42.980 --> 01:09:45.280
and are looking and waiting for a reason to come back.

01:09:45.280 --> 01:09:48.220
That's the audience, pretty massive audience.

01:09:48.220 --> 01:09:49.780
Orendia, thanks for the prime.

01:09:54.700 --> 01:09:56.860
120 million accounts were announced in WAD,

01:09:56.860 --> 01:09:57.780
so there's way more now.

01:09:57.780 --> 01:09:59.500
Yeah, it's maybe like closer to $200 million.

01:09:59.500 --> 01:10:00.340
I don't even know.

01:10:05.260 --> 01:10:07.140
Smug, thanks for the problem.

01:10:08.100 --> 01:10:09.100
All right, let's check this out.

01:10:09.100 --> 01:10:12.980
World of Warcraft won't be an MMO RPG anymore.

01:10:12.980 --> 01:10:17.180
That is quite the claim, Aiki.

01:10:17.180 --> 01:10:18.580
What are we talking about?

01:10:23.260 --> 01:10:25.080
Nice, bro, nice.

01:10:25.080 --> 01:10:30.820
We are never going to stop doing the things people love, but at the same time we have

01:10:30.820 --> 01:10:34.160
a bigger vision than simply being an MMORPG.

01:10:34.160 --> 01:10:38.200
That's what Holly Longdale, the vice president and executive producer of World of Warcraft

01:10:38.200 --> 01:10:39.640
said a year ago.

01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:41.240
And it's obvious what she means, right?

01:10:41.240 --> 01:10:45.440
A new Netflix series, perhaps a new entry in the Warcraft franchise.

01:10:45.440 --> 01:10:46.720
But I think it's more than that.

01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:51.640
I think the mainline World of Warcraft won't be an MMORPG after the last Titan.

01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:54.480
That is going to be the real next World of Warcraft.

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:58.320
a new day release game but again they're so different from even the current state

01:10:58.320 --> 01:11:02.640
retailer sin that you will look at it and say yeah make sense that's about a

01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:06.980
four-craft now let me show you why I think it makes sense to go into the

01:11:06.980 --> 01:11:11.760
direction Blizzard is going right now even if it feels I'm fitting it

01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:18.020
guys it's got worth the same thing I do it's a like the black lulu lemon

01:11:18.020 --> 01:11:24.020
shorts black socks in a like gray or black t-shirt it's like the exact

01:11:24.020 --> 01:11:31.340
Same thing I wear every single day as locked in and dialed ask anyone on the street about world of warcraft and you'll hear the same sentence

01:11:31.700 --> 01:11:36.020
Isn't that the game people used to replace their lives with and honestly?

01:11:36.020 --> 01:11:39.200
That's fair an MMORPG can be your second life

01:11:39.820 --> 01:11:41.620
progress community

01:11:41.620 --> 01:11:47.140
admiration a sense of purpose an identity rivalry or friendship and sometimes even love

01:11:47.780 --> 01:11:49.860
The reputation was earned 20 years ago

01:11:49.860 --> 01:11:53.480
ago, but the players who earned it are 20 years older now.

01:11:53.480 --> 01:11:57.700
Not everybody has time like they did in the mid-2000s or during COVID.

01:11:57.700 --> 01:12:02.880
For Blizzard, who has way stronger data than we have access to, the path seems pretty clear.

01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.940
That's why Ian said, 20 years ago there was a sense that the game might be something

01:12:06.940 --> 01:12:11.600
that appeared to them, but they don't have the time for it because it might be all consuming.

01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:13.400
That is not what we are anymore.

01:12:13.400 --> 01:12:15.920
That is not what we've been for a long time.

01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:20.800
And we've got the proof in the game itself, but not only in the last six pensions, no.

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We've got the proof since Rath.

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Look at the timeline.

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Everything above the line is something they added, a new optional thing to do.

01:12:28.900 --> 01:12:34.000
Everything below is friction they took away, a reason to go somewhere that's simply gone.

01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:35.560
And they've always done both.

01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:41.060
The Dungeon Finer 2009 below the line, Mythic Plus 2016 above the line.

01:12:41.060 --> 01:12:43.940
But look at the cadence they're doing it with right now.

01:12:43.940 --> 01:12:49.100
And look how much of it is evergreen, content that doesn't expire when the patch does.

01:12:49.100 --> 01:12:50.740
And that is no accident.

01:12:50.740 --> 01:12:55.580
Long day it said, we saw in our data that our casual and mid-core players were underserved.

01:12:55.580 --> 01:12:58.700
That's where late last year we created the live team.

01:12:58.700 --> 01:13:03.180
And now look which of those aren't just convenience, which of them you can do completely

01:13:03.180 --> 01:13:04.180
alone.

01:13:04.180 --> 01:13:05.420
The clearest one is Delfts.

01:13:05.420 --> 01:13:10.020
Ian said, with Delfts we've made a very conscious choice to say, you know what?

01:13:10.020 --> 01:13:11.660
It just gives you gear.

01:13:11.660 --> 01:13:17.060
are going to be a linchpin of how we do worldbuilding, storytelling, and end game progression for years to come.

01:13:18.260 --> 01:13:21.960
They are catering the game to a player base that is now more time-sensitive.

01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:24.760
That doesn't want to walk to a dungeon for 20 minutes.

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I was actually thinking about this yesterday.

01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.160
I was watching some RuneScape streamers.

01:13:30.160 --> 01:13:34.560
I talk about RuneScape a lot, because I actually love what RuneScape has built

01:13:34.860 --> 01:13:37.260
in terms of the systems and the decision-making.

01:13:37.460 --> 01:13:40.860
But I'm gonna be honest, I think WoW is a better game.

01:13:41.660 --> 01:13:45.260
Right, I think the IP of wow is better. I think the movement is better

01:13:45.260 --> 01:13:50.740
I think the world is better like I like wow better than runescape. I think wow is just superior, but I

01:13:51.660 --> 01:13:56.340
Like a lot of the decisions that runescape has made it runescape was my first game before while my first time

01:13:56.340 --> 01:13:58.340
Oh before while I played

01:13:58.940 --> 01:14:03.620
Back then and I'm watching it now and like one of the things I really like about runescape is your ability to

01:14:04.020 --> 01:14:06.020
Play on your own terms

01:14:06.020 --> 01:14:09.940
So all of the endgame content and I'm not saying wow should copy this

01:14:09.940 --> 01:14:12.340
In fact, I'm probably saying that they shouldn't.

01:14:12.340 --> 01:14:14.300
But one of the things that I like about RuneScape

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is that you can just log in and play when you want

01:14:17.220 --> 01:14:18.940
on your time schedule.

01:14:18.940 --> 01:14:22.620
So even though it's a game that grossly doesn't

01:14:22.620 --> 01:14:25.100
respect your time in a sense, it's also

01:14:25.100 --> 01:14:27.140
you can start and stop when you want.

01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:29.620
You could quit for three weeks and come back

01:14:29.620 --> 01:14:31.500
and pick up right where you left off.

01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:35.980
You can do the raid all by yourself whenever you want.

01:14:35.980 --> 01:14:38.500
It's not, oh, I need to be on it this time,

01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:41.620
or I'm older and I have a family

01:14:41.620 --> 01:14:43.420
and I can play for 30 minutes

01:14:43.420 --> 01:14:45.900
but then I might need to go like get my son or daughter

01:14:45.900 --> 01:14:48.620
up from their nap and then feed them a bottle

01:14:48.620 --> 01:14:50.900
and play for a while, go to the store, come back

01:14:50.900 --> 01:14:52.580
and then like when I put them down for their next nap

01:14:52.580 --> 01:14:54.020
then I can play for another hour.

01:14:54.020 --> 01:14:55.980
RuneScape works for that.

01:14:55.980 --> 01:14:58.700
Hardcore, wow, kinda works for that.

01:14:59.900 --> 01:15:03.500
It's really hard to do that playing

01:15:03.500 --> 01:15:05.340
around like a raid schedule

01:15:05.340 --> 01:15:07.780
or like a kind of like a world of Warcraft

01:15:07.780 --> 01:15:14.580
like normally is played, where you want to like sit down for a while and play, right?

01:15:14.580 --> 01:15:16.780
So Blizzard understands this.

01:15:16.780 --> 01:15:19.100
They added things like Delves.

01:15:19.100 --> 01:15:20.580
And Delves kind of solved this, right?

01:15:20.580 --> 01:15:21.860
A little bit on retail.

01:15:21.860 --> 01:15:26.420
You can play solo whatever you want and get your own gear without needing to lean on

01:15:26.420 --> 01:15:27.420
someone else.

01:15:27.420 --> 01:15:28.660
You can just kind of play in the solo world.

01:15:28.660 --> 01:15:31.860
RuneScape solved it in the sense that it's an MMO.

01:15:31.860 --> 01:15:35.300
There's other people out there and you can interact with them and talk to them

01:15:35.300 --> 01:15:36.300
and trade with them.

01:15:36.300 --> 01:15:41.100
economy and there's people running around the cities hustling and bustling but at the

01:15:41.100 --> 01:15:45.700
same time it's kind of like a single player MMO hard core same thing single player in the

01:15:45.700 --> 01:15:49.900
sense that you're on a leveling journey but there's other people in the world that populate

01:15:49.900 --> 01:15:54.820
it and give it meaning.

01:15:54.820 --> 01:15:57.980
Mage tower in a sense solves this same problem.

01:15:57.980 --> 01:16:01.460
Mage tower you can start and stop when you want it's better for that older audience

01:16:01.460 --> 01:16:07.180
that need to stop when they need to stop and start at random times around work and life

01:16:07.180 --> 01:16:09.380
and stuff like that.

01:16:09.380 --> 01:16:13.100
The counter argument is, well, what the heck, bro?

01:16:13.100 --> 01:16:16.620
It's an MMO and you're supposed to need other people.

01:16:16.620 --> 01:16:18.740
And to that, I kind of agree.

01:16:18.740 --> 01:16:21.820
It's like, yeah, you should need other people, lean other people, and that's one

01:16:21.820 --> 01:16:23.700
of the things that has made WoW so great.

01:16:23.700 --> 01:16:27.700
That's why I don't just say, WoW should instantly just be a single-player game.

01:16:27.700 --> 01:16:32.420
It's pros to it, but you kind of lose the whole identity of the game of, I need other people

01:16:32.420 --> 01:16:33.420
in my dungeon.

01:16:33.420 --> 01:16:37.260
I need to group with someone else to complete this quest that's really difficult.

01:16:37.260 --> 01:16:39.740
That's cool to need other people.

01:16:39.740 --> 01:16:46.640
But it also isn't realistic with people with really busy lives.

01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:51.380
So retail has been this thing where they're trying to satisfy the person that only

01:16:51.380 --> 01:16:55.420
has these 30 minute time chunks or 40 minute time chunks.

01:16:55.420 --> 01:16:58.060
if you have like an hour, you could play a game of League

01:16:58.060 --> 01:17:00.100
or Counter-Strike, they're like, okay, you have an hour,

01:17:00.100 --> 01:17:03.060
you could hop into a Delve or a Mythic Plus maybe,

01:17:03.060 --> 01:17:04.500
like so retail's trying to do that,

01:17:04.500 --> 01:17:07.340
but there's something about like a classic MMO

01:17:07.340 --> 01:17:10.780
that like part of the identity is it takes time,

01:17:10.780 --> 01:17:15.460
but the thing about WoW is it takes time with other people.

01:17:15.460 --> 01:17:17.220
So I guess all of that to say is like,

01:17:17.220 --> 01:17:18.540
WoW is kind of at a pickle.

01:17:18.540 --> 01:17:21.620
I think leaning into something like Mage Tower

01:17:21.620 --> 01:17:24.820
or something like hardcore leveling challenges

01:17:24.820 --> 01:17:29.300
things that might appeal to people that have this really weird block of time that still

01:17:29.300 --> 01:17:35.940
want to enjoy WoW would probably be massively successful, but I don't think WoW is in a position

01:17:35.940 --> 01:17:39.660
where you just make all of the raids single player.

01:17:39.660 --> 01:17:44.420
Nah, I don't think you can really copy that over, that doesn't really work ruins the

01:17:44.420 --> 01:17:46.780
identity of what made WoW so good in the first place.

01:17:46.780 --> 01:17:50.180
So it's like a little bit of both I suppose.

01:17:50.180 --> 01:17:55.300
the dungeon for 60 more minutes and then not get rewarded with an item. That's exactly

01:17:55.300 --> 01:17:57.780
why they built more and more of the solo evergreen co-

01:17:57.780 --> 01:18:05.500
Oh my gosh, guys, G-Bay just waived to me on Discord and at- G-Bay just added me on

01:18:05.500 --> 01:18:07.780
Discord.

01:18:07.780 --> 01:18:14.780
one sec guys.

01:18:16.940 --> 01:18:23.940
okay

01:18:29.740 --> 01:18:36.740
one sec guys

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One second, I just have to type a quick message, guys.

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I'll be done really soon here.

01:19:07.780 --> 01:19:34.780
All right, yeah, just to send that for now, I have a lot more to say, but we'll just

01:19:34.780 --> 01:19:43.420
keep it short. Yeah, here we go. I'll just keep it real short. Yeah. Anyway, if you guys

01:19:43.420 --> 01:19:48.540
are just tuning in, we're actually mid-react right now. And it's the final stream for BlizzCon,

01:19:48.540 --> 01:19:53.260
so it's kind of a big deal. Yeah, I'm tuned right now. Well, there is and always has

01:19:53.260 --> 01:19:58.260
been extremely difficult and rewarding content like Mythic Rating and Mythic Plus. They

01:19:58.260 --> 01:20:02.420
want to give the option for the dead who has 45 minutes after the kids are in bed

01:20:02.420 --> 01:20:07.700
It's something meaningful. A delve, a bounty or just a new wall in their house.

01:20:08.340 --> 01:20:12.820
And the important thing is they don't take away from you. Ian said it himself.

01:20:13.620 --> 01:20:16.980
We haven't moved away from something we used to be into something new.

01:20:16.980 --> 01:20:21.220
We've broadened, and he's right. But look at what they've broadened with.

01:20:21.220 --> 01:20:24.580
Housing, delves, prey. Not one of them needs another person.

01:20:25.300 --> 01:20:30.340
Those broadening results in making the multiplayer and MMORPG kind of optional.

01:20:30.340 --> 01:20:44.340
This is why I think retail will go even more into the direction of a buffet, where you can pick and choose what you want to consume, where if you don't like one flavor, you can simply pick another small thing that complements the other flavors, creating a whole...

01:20:44.340 --> 01:20:57.340
The clarification is that Delves are not going to give you the same power of gear as like Mythic Plus or Heroic Rating or Mythic Rating.

01:20:57.340 --> 01:21:04.820
The high-end delves might give you equivalent loot to some of the heroic stuff from memory,

01:21:04.820 --> 01:21:11.580
but like the loot is worse is the point, especially from mythic stuff, and that's a big deal.

01:21:11.580 --> 01:21:18.240
So the clarification is that like when you're playing Runescape, the best gear in the

01:21:18.240 --> 01:21:20.900
game can be farmed solo.

01:21:20.900 --> 01:21:25.900
So the equivalent of that would be in World of Warcraft, delves would give you the

01:21:25.900 --> 01:21:30.580
the best possible gear on par with mythic raiding gear,

01:21:30.580 --> 01:21:33.420
right, that would be crazy in the sense that like,

01:21:33.420 --> 01:21:35.220
maybe people just don't raid anymore

01:21:35.220 --> 01:21:36.380
and the whole thing collapses

01:21:36.380 --> 01:21:37.460
and people just play solo,

01:21:37.460 --> 01:21:40.260
like that would probably be pretty bad, right?

01:21:40.260 --> 01:21:44.260
But Mage Tower for cosmetics

01:21:44.260 --> 01:21:45.900
to give you something to farm and do,

01:21:45.900 --> 01:21:49.940
like really works and delves as a solo player option

01:21:49.940 --> 01:21:52.920
to get people gear that might not have time

01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:54.140
to do all the other stuff

01:21:54.140 --> 01:21:55.580
they get like some starter gear

01:21:55.580 --> 01:21:58.300
to then maybe have enough gear to get into a raid.

01:21:58.300 --> 01:22:01.320
Like I think kind of work, like it's actually kind of cool.

01:22:03.020 --> 01:22:04.980
Man, I'm such a RuneScape fanboy though,

01:22:04.980 --> 01:22:07.020
cause like I think like part of,

01:22:07.020 --> 01:22:09.220
I actually really love the idea

01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:11.260
and hardcore WoW sold me on this idea

01:22:11.260 --> 01:22:14.580
is like I love the idea of a world

01:22:14.580 --> 01:22:16.860
where it's populated with other people,

01:22:16.860 --> 01:22:19.340
but you're all on your own little journeys.

01:22:19.340 --> 01:22:20.380
That's what RuneScape is.

01:22:20.380 --> 01:22:25.060
RuneScape is a game where everyone out there

01:22:25.060 --> 01:22:27.740
is on their own little journey, kind of like life,

01:22:27.740 --> 01:22:29.660
and you're doing your own little thing

01:22:29.660 --> 01:22:30.700
and you're fighting your own bosses

01:22:30.700 --> 01:22:32.500
and you can still group and raids and stuff,

01:22:32.500 --> 01:22:34.400
but like most, a lot of people just kind of like play solo,

01:22:34.400 --> 01:22:36.260
but like the towns are still populated

01:22:36.260 --> 01:22:38.260
and you're still kind of there together.

01:22:38.260 --> 01:22:40.940
It's a really cool thing, very different game though.

01:22:40.940 --> 01:22:43.820
Like I said, let me repeat, wow should not be that.

01:22:43.820 --> 01:22:44.740
They're different games.

01:22:44.740 --> 01:22:46.540
They can't just copy each other, right?

01:22:46.540 --> 01:22:49.140
Different pros and cons, but it is cool.

01:22:49.140 --> 01:22:54.460
your experience, your experience, one that fits into your life.

01:22:54.460 --> 01:22:58.340
Have you noticed how many more story cutscenes there were in the last few expansions?

01:22:58.340 --> 01:23:02.340
Not only the cinematic ones, but in-game rendered ones as well.

01:23:02.340 --> 01:23:06.140
Even though most of them look like they're having the time of their lives on a rave,

01:23:06.140 --> 01:23:08.380
they've got one thing in common.

01:23:08.380 --> 01:23:12.900
They want to cater the story more to the player, giving him real immersion and make

01:23:12.900 --> 01:23:16.100
the story an actual experience.

01:23:16.100 --> 01:23:18.380
And we can see the trend in the data as well.

01:23:18.380 --> 01:23:22.780
They've put more emphasis on personal storytelling in the last few expansions than they have ever

01:23:22.780 --> 01:23:23.780
before.

01:23:23.780 --> 01:23:27.920
The idea of putting your character front and center make it part of every encounter.

01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:32.220
Every story bit and especially every cutscene is definitely not new.

01:23:32.220 --> 01:23:35.580
It's the rule for almost all new story games that come out.

01:23:35.580 --> 01:23:38.660
Even for MMORPGs it's not that uncommon.

01:23:38.660 --> 01:23:41.260
Just take a look at Final Fantasy 14.

01:23:41.260 --> 01:23:45.860
Up until the last expansion they've got 159 hours of cutscenes.

01:23:45.860 --> 01:23:50.140
You spend a huge part of your time listening to a story and spending time immersing yourself

01:23:50.140 --> 01:23:51.140
in the world.

01:23:51.140 --> 01:23:57.540
And let me tell you, the story of Final Fantasy is phenomenal, but you mostly play it alone.

01:23:57.540 --> 01:24:01.420
Perhaps a dungeon here or there, but you can also do them in the new expansions at

01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:03.540
least with NPCs.

01:24:03.540 --> 01:24:06.900
It's a solo game, mostly, until you're at the endgame.

01:24:06.900 --> 01:24:09.100
Then the same formula as in Bao repeats.

01:24:09.100 --> 01:24:14.300
Dungeons, raids, and like wow has now, more solo content, like housing.

01:24:14.300 --> 01:24:22.060
of that under the umbrella of an MMORPG? How do you guys generally feel about this genre of MMO

01:24:22.060 --> 01:24:30.540
that is mainly solo play? Hardcore wow for the moat kind of runescape, FF it sounds like I've

01:24:30.540 --> 01:24:39.180
never played, L hate it, sucks, terrible. I actually kind of love it, but all you guys seem to hate

01:24:39.180 --> 01:24:46.140
it. Hardcore WoW is basically this in a sense, right? 99% of Hardcore WoW is hitting 60 solo

01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:53.580
and you obviously you have raids, or dungeons rather, most people don't raid. Interesting,

01:24:54.220 --> 01:25:02.060
interesting. I wonder why I like it. I've watched a few videos on the same exact topic where

01:25:02.780 --> 01:25:07.900
I can't remember who it was, but it was like a year ago now and it was basically like there's

01:25:07.900 --> 01:25:12.380
more and more of these games that are like these single player MMOs in a sense where you're like

01:25:12.380 --> 01:25:16.780
you're you're kind of grinding the content solo but you're in a world with other people also

01:25:16.780 --> 01:25:21.660
grinding the content solo so that gives meaning to the world right um you like it because you're

01:25:21.660 --> 01:25:26.380
a streamer since you're not really playing alone maybe yeah maybe that's true um

01:25:29.180 --> 01:25:33.100
I play MMOs to play with other people if I wanted to play alone I'd play an RPG yeah yeah

01:25:33.100 --> 01:25:33.940
Yeah, yeah.

01:25:33.940 --> 01:25:35.660
Like I'm not saying one is better than the other,

01:25:35.660 --> 01:25:37.260
but I'm saying like they're,

01:25:37.260 --> 01:25:40.620
like playing a solo MMO is almost like an oxymoron,

01:25:40.620 --> 01:25:41.960
but in a sense it's like,

01:25:42.940 --> 01:25:44.020
it's almost like you're,

01:25:44.020 --> 01:25:45.820
it's okay, so Elden Ring is kind of like

01:25:45.820 --> 01:25:47.540
a good example of this.

01:25:47.540 --> 01:25:49.900
Elden Ring is a single player game,

01:25:49.900 --> 01:25:53.000
but you have the notes from other people

01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.780
and you can leave notes to other people like anonymously

01:25:55.780 --> 01:25:57.300
and it kind of feels like

01:25:57.300 --> 01:25:58.860
you can't actually see other players.

01:25:58.860 --> 01:26:00.820
I mean, there is PVP too,

01:26:00.820 --> 01:26:03.220
so you could in a sense, and co-op.

01:26:03.220 --> 01:26:05.220
But you know what I mean, it's like the single player,

01:26:05.220 --> 01:26:07.780
like you can kind of get the glimpse of other people.

01:26:07.780 --> 01:26:09.320
When you're playing a game like RuneScape,

01:26:09.320 --> 01:26:10.260
it's kind of that same vibe,

01:26:10.260 --> 01:26:12.300
where you're like, you're going through the world solo,

01:26:12.300 --> 01:26:13.540
but like you see all the other people

01:26:13.540 --> 01:26:15.260
and it kind of gives you that meaning.

01:26:16.300 --> 01:26:18.380
Solo MMO is a journey on your own timeline

01:26:18.380 --> 01:26:20.780
with optional group content, right.

01:26:20.780 --> 01:26:24.260
The solo MMO experience gives you a lot more agency

01:26:24.260 --> 01:26:25.900
over when you can actually play the game,

01:26:25.900 --> 01:26:28.300
which is really, really nice,

01:26:28.300 --> 01:26:32.360
But it doesn't really work in WoW in a sense like,

01:26:32.360 --> 01:26:33.460
I mean, it works in hardcore,

01:26:33.460 --> 01:26:34.580
but it doesn't really work in WoW.

01:26:34.580 --> 01:26:37.340
Like you do want to be able to raid in Dungeon.

01:26:37.340 --> 01:26:40.900
Like needing other people is a core part of the game, right?

01:26:40.900 --> 01:26:42.400
Archer, thanks for the prime.

01:26:48.300 --> 01:26:50.300
Absolute trash experience for an MMO.

01:26:50.300 --> 01:26:52.340
MMO means that people have to be together.

01:26:52.340 --> 01:26:53.820
Well, that's why it's an oxymoron.

01:26:53.820 --> 01:26:54.980
That's why it's,

01:26:54.980 --> 01:26:56.660
that's why we're having the conversation.

01:26:56.660 --> 01:26:58.820
That's why it's an interesting one, right?

01:26:58.820 --> 01:27:01.420
Because on a surface level, you're right.

01:27:01.420 --> 01:27:04.100
When you examine it more, it's actually quite fun.

01:27:04.100 --> 01:27:05.540
It's like, why?

01:27:05.540 --> 01:27:07.020
What's going on here?

01:27:07.020 --> 01:27:09.020
That's why we've seen a couple of these videos,

01:27:09.020 --> 01:27:11.140
and it's really interesting to think about.

01:27:13.660 --> 01:27:16.580
It's like that game Fellowship that came out.

01:27:16.580 --> 01:27:19.020
Fellowship is Mythic Plus Simulator,

01:27:19.020 --> 01:27:20.620
so I don't think it would be anything like that.

01:27:20.620 --> 01:27:22.620
In fact, it would be the complete opposite of that,

01:27:22.620 --> 01:27:23.460
I think.

01:27:26.660 --> 01:27:33.020
MMO means different things to everyone. There's no set way to play at 5-6k hours around and have never rated in the current expansion

01:27:33.180 --> 01:27:35.540
Yeah, dude a lot of people play Wow solo

01:27:37.860 --> 01:27:42.060
Type one in the shot if you play Wow mainly solo like of course you you know

01:27:42.060 --> 01:27:48.700
You do this and that here and there but like mainly solo like there are so many of you guys that play Wow

01:27:48.700 --> 01:27:54.180
So low not all the time but like 90 plus percent of the time you're logging in and doing your own thing making gold

01:27:54.180 --> 01:27:58.660
leveling an alt, I've never rated in 20 plus years.

01:27:58.660 --> 01:28:00.580
Wow, that's crazy.

01:28:00.580 --> 01:28:02.500
Like so many of you, I would actually,

01:28:02.500 --> 01:28:04.620
like I wonder if there's more people

01:28:04.620 --> 01:28:07.300
that play, wow, mainly solo than play in groups.

01:28:07.300 --> 01:28:08.140
I don't know.

01:28:08.140 --> 01:28:09.600
I'm actually just curious.

01:28:11.540 --> 01:28:13.880
If it was 2010 or back then,

01:28:14.900 --> 01:28:16.680
MMOs used to be way more social.

01:28:17.820 --> 01:28:20.420
99% of the time I do my own thing.

01:28:20.420 --> 01:28:23.620
Like there's something like weirdly cool about that though,

01:28:23.620 --> 01:28:27.460
like you're in this world do a poll. I mean the poll is probably going to be really biased.

01:28:27.460 --> 01:28:36.500
I could try to do it anyway. What do you do most of the time in WoW? 90% plus solo content,

01:28:37.700 --> 01:28:46.820
always grouping. I'll put most of the time grouped content. I'll just put mostly grouping.

01:28:46.820 --> 01:28:49.600
So Dungeon's Raids grouping.

01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:52.740
So I'll do a two minute poll.

01:28:52.740 --> 01:28:57.080
So, yeah.

01:29:00.980 --> 01:29:03.940
I feel like this is like a bias poll

01:29:03.940 --> 01:29:06.340
since we've already been talking about it.

01:29:06.340 --> 01:29:09.620
I can do the same poll on YouTube too if you guys want

01:29:09.620 --> 01:29:13.920
but I feel like the poll is a little bias here.

01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:20.920
Most of the time, 90% plus solo content, mostly grouping.

01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:33.920
Like, I think Blizzard has this data, and they have it in mind, and that's probably why Blizzard has done things like Story Mode, Delves, right?

01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:39.920
Like, let's give people ways to just, like most people are playing the game solo anyway, let's give people ways to play it.

01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:47.260
it. Having said that, I totally understand why people would absolutely hate this. I get

01:29:47.260 --> 01:29:54.320
it because you're like, bro, it's an MMO, you idiot, right? Like, come on. Like, I get

01:29:54.320 --> 01:29:58.900
it, bro. I get it. That's why we're having the conversation. Like, I'm on the same page.

01:29:58.900 --> 01:30:09.740
It's just a fascinating one, right? Super, super interesting. So on YouTube, the poll

01:30:09.740 --> 01:30:14.460
is like even more 75% solo, 27% mostly grouping.

01:30:14.460 --> 01:30:15.580
YouTube is very similar.

01:30:18.740 --> 01:30:20.980
Like most people do a mix of both, right?

01:30:20.980 --> 01:30:22.060
Obviously.

01:30:22.060 --> 01:30:24.060
But there's actually like, at least from this,

01:30:24.060 --> 01:30:27.020
like a minority on Twitch and YouTube of people

01:30:27.020 --> 01:30:28.700
that are actually just like grouping all day,

01:30:28.700 --> 01:30:30.700
which is yeah, really, really interesting stuff.

01:30:36.380 --> 01:30:38.380
You are literally going against everything you've said

01:30:38.380 --> 01:30:45.340
Previously you're being disingenuous and you avoid any comments about it. Sorry. I missed the comments. I didn't mean to what do you mean by that?

01:30:45.340 --> 01:30:46.340
I

01:30:46.340 --> 01:30:48.340
Authentically don't understand what you're trying to say

01:30:49.100 --> 01:30:51.100
But I would love to understand I

01:30:55.460 --> 01:30:58.320
Think you're the only one typing that's why I'm trying to this was from

01:31:01.180 --> 01:31:03.180
Tusker

01:31:03.180 --> 01:31:09.560
Holy angry boy dude got upset. Yeah, I think it might just be you. That's why I'm asking tusker

01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:11.560
I don't I don't know what I said

01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:15.760
How is he disingenuous? Yeah, I'm waiting to see what he says. I think it's one guy

01:31:26.080 --> 01:31:28.080
Just kind of just waiting a second here

01:31:33.180 --> 01:31:36.180
The reason I'm curious, he hasn't replied yet, so I'll keep talking.

01:31:36.180 --> 01:31:39.980
The reason I'm curious is because I've talked about this exact thing many times before.

01:31:39.980 --> 01:31:44.480
As an interesting thought experiment, once again, I'm not saying wow, should be a single-player game.

01:31:44.480 --> 01:31:48.480
I'm not saying that, but I'm saying it's interesting that so many people play solo

01:31:48.480 --> 01:31:53.480
and that solo game play can be so fun, which I've said many times.

01:31:54.480 --> 01:31:55.980
So I'm curious as to...

01:31:57.980 --> 01:31:59.980
We're still waiting. He hasn't said anything.

01:32:00.980 --> 01:32:02.980
Okay, he said something. Let's read this.

01:32:03.180 --> 01:32:12.300
What I mean is that you have been a champion for friction, seeing each other in the world,

01:32:12.300 --> 01:32:17.220
disliking retail features that make it simpler in a lobby game, hate flying, but now you

01:32:17.220 --> 01:32:20.940
suddenly are promoting all these simplifications that retail brings.

01:32:20.940 --> 01:32:23.580
No, not promoting them.

01:32:23.580 --> 01:32:30.380
I'm saying that for the audience, sometimes they can work and that wow, should not be

01:32:30.380 --> 01:32:35.140
be this way should not be this way should not be a single player game like RuneScape

01:32:35.140 --> 01:32:41.360
but it's fascinating that RuneScape has these things and that they can be fun but wow should

01:32:41.360 --> 01:32:46.300
not be that to be clear. Last room for BlizzCon seems to me you're softening us up for what

01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:51.620
you know Classic Plus will be. Okay so I think this is a simple case of miscommunication

01:32:51.620 --> 01:32:59.860
I never said this. Always a miscommunication classic yeah. Bro cooked us with a microwave

01:32:59.860 --> 01:33:06.020
on that one? Yeah, one of the things, like, there's a lot of nuance to these conversations,

01:33:06.020 --> 01:33:10.020
right? That's why it's important to, like, have them. Lots and lots of nuance.

01:33:16.340 --> 01:33:21.780
But yeah, just to be clear, I like that you need other people, and that's one of the things that

01:33:21.780 --> 01:33:27.140
makes it wow, wow. That's why we're having the conversation of, like, how and why are these

01:33:27.140 --> 01:33:29.580
single-player players in MMOs.

01:33:29.580 --> 01:33:30.460
Why do they exist?

01:33:30.460 --> 01:33:32.580
Why is it so many people and why is it so fun?

01:33:32.580 --> 01:33:34.020
Because it shouldn't be.

01:33:34.020 --> 01:33:35.460
It doesn't make sense.

01:33:35.460 --> 01:33:36.860
Anyway, welcome to the conversation.

01:33:36.860 --> 01:33:38.660
That's the conversation we're having.

01:33:40.400 --> 01:33:41.760
Hey, Mitt, thanks for the prime.

01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:43.260
Honey, thanks for the prime.

01:33:44.900 --> 01:33:46.740
That's why hardcore was so perfect.

01:33:46.740 --> 01:33:48.820
It was perfect balance of doing solo content

01:33:48.820 --> 01:33:50.900
and choosing to level with someone,

01:33:50.900 --> 01:33:51.820
but it was just great.

01:33:51.820 --> 01:33:52.780
Yeah, yeah, it's one of the,

01:33:52.780 --> 01:33:54.140
like hardcore did it really well.

01:33:54.140 --> 01:33:54.980
Yeah.

01:33:54.980 --> 01:33:57.980
Or those, thanks for the prime.

01:33:57.980 --> 01:34:06.980
One reason soloing is fun that maybe people don't think about is you're overcoming the intent of game design via creativity.

01:34:06.980 --> 01:34:09.980
If you design for solo, that leads to a modernization.

01:34:09.980 --> 01:34:18.980
So you're saying like it's fine if you do the content solo if it's not meant to be soloed.

01:34:18.980 --> 01:34:24.460
but you can still try like kind of like hardcore but it's not good to just only

01:34:24.460 --> 01:34:27.820
make solo content for solo content because it puts people in their own lane

01:34:27.820 --> 01:34:32.860
that's like an interesting take hey correlation thanks for the T1 bro

01:34:38.860 --> 01:34:46.220
um um um last stream before classic plus hold who knows man who knows people

01:34:46.220 --> 01:34:49.980
myself started doing solo content as there is no risk of someone else wasting your time by

01:34:49.980 --> 01:34:56.060
griefing or raging and solo you can play on your own pace and not on the pace that is expected

01:34:56.060 --> 01:35:04.700
from you. So are you saying that like, yeah, like it really respects your time, right? Really

01:35:04.700 --> 01:35:10.940
respects your time. Why does RuneScape always get brought up in discussions about WoW? RuneScape

01:35:10.940 --> 01:35:14.700
is a fraction of the WoW's player base so clearly WoW has made better decisions overall

01:35:14.700 --> 01:35:20.460
for over the years. Why is RuneScape be treated as a meaningful benchmark for WoW at all? That is a

01:35:20.460 --> 01:35:28.540
great question and you're right. WoW overall is a bigger and more successful game than RuneScape.

01:35:31.180 --> 01:35:41.260
But I think WoW has better IP, right? I had Warcraft 3 before. WoW is I think a better game

01:35:41.260 --> 01:35:45.180
in the sense like it's just the way you move and feel and you're immersed right so wow so then you

01:35:45.180 --> 01:35:51.180
might be like okay so why compare why are you comparing to an underdog the reason the most compelling

01:35:51.180 --> 01:36:02.140
reason um for me let me see if i can find this if i can't maybe someone can help me oh i think

01:36:02.140 --> 01:36:03.640
I think I might have found it.

01:36:09.240 --> 01:36:11.400
Yeah, this is close enough.

01:36:11.400 --> 01:36:12.240
This is close enough.

01:36:12.240 --> 01:36:18.280
So this is old school RuneScape average population over time.

01:36:18.280 --> 01:36:20.840
This chart is like the most compelling reason

01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:24.400
that I think people bring it up for the most part.

01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:26.000
Not that it's a bigger game, it's not.

01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:26.680
It's smaller.

01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:28.120
Not that it's a better game.

01:36:28.120 --> 01:36:29.240
In my opinion, it's not.

01:36:29.240 --> 01:36:30.960
Although there's pros and cons.

01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:32.520
But to answer your question,

01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:37.040
when old-school RuneScape launched in 2013, 2014,

01:36:37.040 --> 01:36:42.040
it had like less than 50,000 weekly average pop, right?

01:36:42.120 --> 01:36:46.480
Which is, you know, it was kind of doing its thing.

01:36:46.480 --> 01:36:49.240
Or OSRS average pop was, yeah, 40,

01:36:49.240 --> 01:36:52.040
like what is that, 38,000 or something, quite small.

01:36:52.040 --> 01:36:54.360
But, you know, it had its dedicated player base.

01:36:54.360 --> 01:36:56.840
And then over time, it shrank.

01:36:56.840 --> 01:36:58.880
It went down.

01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:02.520
it dropped, people quit.

01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:05.040
And at some point, the OSR's devs were like,

01:37:05.040 --> 01:37:07.960
wait a minute, what if we start pulling our community,

01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:09.520
listening to our community,

01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:13.360
and adding new content to the game

01:37:13.360 --> 01:37:15.680
based on what the community wants?

01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:20.320
Boop, a little blip, an uptick, okay.

01:37:20.320 --> 01:37:22.760
And then for a while, it was kind of that same thing.

01:37:22.760 --> 01:37:25.600
Another uptick from a new patch.

01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:26.920
Ups and downs are normal.

01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:28.360
Another uptick from a new patch.

01:37:28.360 --> 01:37:29.480
Ups and downs are normal.

01:37:29.480 --> 01:37:31.280
Another uptick from a new patch.

01:37:31.280 --> 01:37:33.320
Ups and downs, another new uptick.

01:37:33.320 --> 01:37:36.240
This is why we're having the conversation.

01:37:36.240 --> 01:37:38.440
So now in 2020, it's like, wait a minute.

01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:42.720
There are more people playing RuneScape in 2020

01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.000
than in 2014.

01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:46.200
Think about just that.

01:37:46.200 --> 01:37:47.680
Like don't even look at the second half yet.

01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:51.200
Just from here, six years after,

01:37:51.200 --> 01:37:54.240
let's imagine classic era

01:37:55.960 --> 01:37:58.140
had this same trajectory.

01:37:58.360 --> 01:38:03.360
So this was classic era right here, just this part.

01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:07.520
It came out, you know, it peaked very high

01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:11.400
and then it slowly fell off, very similar to this.

01:38:11.400 --> 01:38:13.960
It came out, it peaked here and slowly fell off.

01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:16.400
That's what you would expect, right?

01:38:16.400 --> 01:38:17.640
That's what you would expect.

01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:20.240
But then they started adding content

01:38:20.240 --> 01:38:22.960
and it grew to the point where there's over

01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:26.640
a hundred thousand average pop on the release

01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:34.120
is 40 or whatever. So over double. Are you following? It's a long answer. It's a great

01:38:34.120 --> 01:38:40.520
question. That's I'm giving you a long answer here over double almost triple of the population

01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:46.720
from launch. So if you put that to wow numbers, that would be 1.2 mil or something. It would

01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:51.800
be like it would be as if it just like went to the moon kind of like how raft did.

01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:54.640
Actually this kind of this chart kind of works in the sense of a raft is in a sense

01:38:54.640 --> 01:39:00.480
kind of classic plus, right? The original. But that's not that's a slightly different conversation.

01:39:00.480 --> 01:39:05.840
Anyway, let's continue. Even though it's a smaller game, less successful IP, less successful

01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:11.280
game overall, you can still learn from smaller things. Because over time, they continue to do

01:39:11.280 --> 01:39:19.120
the polls, continue to listen to the community. And then in 2025, they hit over 200,000

01:39:19.120 --> 01:39:30.480
and average weekly pop, which in 2014, over 11 years before, they were launched at 40,000.

01:39:30.480 --> 01:39:34.840
So once again, you transfer this to WoW numbers, much bigger game, much larger IP, just listening

01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:39.520
to the community and putting in things the community actually wants and votes for.

01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:46.240
You would have literally millions of weekly raiders playing era.

01:39:46.240 --> 01:39:47.240
That's kind of the claim.

01:39:47.240 --> 01:39:49.160
That's why it's a relevant conversation.

01:39:49.160 --> 01:39:50.240
Does that make sense?

01:39:50.240 --> 01:39:52.280
That's why people always quote it.

01:39:52.280 --> 01:39:53.940
That's why even though it's a small game,

01:39:53.940 --> 01:39:57.560
it's a beautiful micro sample of what's going on.

01:39:57.560 --> 01:39:58.760
Crap, I forgot that guy's name.

01:39:58.760 --> 01:39:59.800
I hope you're still in the chat.

01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:04.520
Maybe I hope I answered your question.

01:40:08.400 --> 01:40:09.760
Hopefully that makes sense.

01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:12.400
Very, very, very, very good thing to study.

01:40:12.400 --> 01:40:35.360
I think he fell asleep. Well, maybe, maybe. It was Tusker? No, I wasn't Tusker. Did I adequately

01:40:35.360 --> 01:40:41.560
answer your condescending question? What movie is that from? Is that from social network?

01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:43.800
What's it called the Facebook movie? I think it is

01:40:44.740 --> 01:40:46.740
Yeah, I think I think it is

01:40:46.740 --> 01:40:51.920
It was me. Thanks for explaining. What's it actually I'm going to your logs. I gotta I gotta be sure

01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:55.760
No, it wasn't you. Oh my gosh, you got me

01:41:04.060 --> 01:41:06.680
Why listen to underdog when bigger player is bigger

01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:15.080
Yeah, like so I guess the very, very short answer is even though something is on top,

01:41:15.080 --> 01:41:20.500
it can have a downward trajectory and that's scary.

01:41:20.500 --> 01:41:25.440
And even though something isn't on top, it can have an upward trajectory and you can

01:41:25.440 --> 01:41:26.440
learn from it.

01:41:26.440 --> 01:41:28.360
That's the very short answer.

01:41:28.360 --> 01:41:34.700
The top dog of wow is going down, the small game of runescape is going up.

01:41:34.700 --> 01:41:35.840
What can we learn?

01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:39.200
the short answer. I guess I could have just said that. That's the very short answer.

01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:43.440
Is R you ever going to compete again?

01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:47.840
Probably not. Probably not.

01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:56.800
Yeah, we just got five good members on YouTube from

01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:03.040
Anima. I actually technically was a League of Legends pro. About 10 days ago I did a

01:42:03.040 --> 01:42:05.840
Professional League of Legends tournament for money.

01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:08.440
I lost, but uh...

01:42:10.140 --> 01:42:11.640
Technically I'm a professional.

01:42:12.140 --> 01:42:18.840
And still, walk into Linsen Lümünzule on any evening and you will find people not only standing around,

01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:20.940
but actually interacting with each other.

01:42:20.940 --> 01:42:22.440
And please don't get me wrong.

01:42:22.440 --> 01:42:26.140
I don't think Blizzard will make retail into a Final Fantasy XIV clone,

01:42:26.140 --> 01:42:28.840
making you watch cutscenes more than you get to play.

01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:33.760
Vow's strength has always been the world, combat and auto-immersion.

01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:38.000
What the data shows though is that they've moved the story out of the quest text, which

01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:43.560
most of us were more inclined to skip, and into cap scenes, which are more palatable

01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:45.560
to consume.

01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:49.600
And even more than that, with law walking, they've included a way to experience the

01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:54.880
biggest stories Vow has to offer and to catch you up to speed in your own temper.

01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:58.560
I think it's a building block for a whole new leveling experience, especially for new

01:42:58.560 --> 01:43:04.000
plays. Imagine one chapter per level, getting you through the whole Warcraft lore in an immersive

01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:08.560
way. And at the end, you get to experience the newest expansion with all it has to offer,

01:43:09.440 --> 01:43:14.960
including the systems that make retail so great. And even then, the final boss of an

01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:19.360
expansion used to be the one thing in this game you needed to gather 20 people for.

01:43:19.360 --> 01:43:21.360
Since the war within, every season's-

01:43:21.360 --> 01:43:25.680
How would we feel about this? I never thought about that. What if on retail,

01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:30.680
You made a new character and it took you through,

01:43:32.360 --> 01:43:33.760
I don't know, even know what would it be?

01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:36.440
Like the original trilogy of like a,

01:43:36.440 --> 01:43:39.240
this like almost story experience

01:43:39.240 --> 01:43:41.120
of like the original trilogy.

01:43:41.120 --> 01:43:42.880
And then it spits you out of end game.

01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:44.640
I mean, I guess that's what they try to do anyway,

01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:46.840
but it doesn't really work very well.

01:43:48.280 --> 01:43:49.120
I don't know.

01:43:49.120 --> 01:43:49.960
I don't know.

01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:51.000
Like, what do you do with retail, man?

01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:51.960
What do you do?

01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:53.040
I think that sounds amazing.

01:43:53.040 --> 01:43:54.240
Like it could be cool.

01:43:54.240 --> 01:44:03.600
like retails are so big man it's just so big final boss has a story mode now you

01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:07.240
can go in alone kill the boss by yourself and see the end cinematic of the

01:44:07.240 --> 01:44:14.920
raid whenever you want so it fits into your life so every mmorpg nowadays has

01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:18.760
the same fate and game is the goal and the only option for real group play

01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:23.600
nothing has permanence I mean Ian said it earlier this year midnight might be

01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:28.160
the fastest expansion we've ever made. Every two months feels like about right to do something

01:44:28.160 --> 01:44:35.120
significant. But let's step back a bit. While we are getting faster expansions and faster seasons,

01:44:35.120 --> 01:44:40.640
so it's resetting your gear every season, that's not new, since almost the beginning of the game.

01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:45.200
That's what a season is. And Blizzard never called it a problem, and neither do I.

01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:49.840
But it does raise a question. What do you actually own in this game?

01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:55.360
Not your gear, really. It's your pets, your titles, your toys, your transmog, your mounts.

01:44:55.360 --> 01:44:59.760
And look when the stuff arrived. Achievements 2008, transmog 2011,

01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:05.280
pet battles 2012, Trabux 2014, Warbands 2024, and it's now account-wide.

01:45:06.160 --> 01:45:10.480
While your gear resets every season, Blizzard was building a second layer underneath.

01:45:10.480 --> 01:45:14.560
The stuff that stays. That's actually true. Like, in WoW,

01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:21.600
If you can roll on the best in slot item or the mount like the mount will actually stay on your account forever

01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:24.400
The best in slot item you're gonna replace next year no matter what

01:45:26.400 --> 01:45:33.940
Like in a sense like the true endgame is like the transmog and retail the toys and the mounts because everything else gets reset every season anyway

01:45:34.480 --> 01:45:36.640
This guy this guy's got the ZAR fit. Yeah, he does

01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:45.640
And now they built the biggest ever green permanent progression system that even aims to combine all of them, giving it a place to be.

01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:51.640
A place to take everything you have earned out of your menus. It's housing. Your pets already live there.

01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:55.640
The big achievements hang on the wall. And monster transmogs, they're currently working on it.

01:45:55.640 --> 01:46:01.640
Ian said, we're adding the biggest single feature that a WoW expansion has ever added to the game.

01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:06.600
built not just to last for the launch of midnight, but for years to come.

01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:12.080
And the numbers don't lie, 4 million hours played in the first two weeks of early access.

01:46:12.080 --> 01:46:16.520
And that is also your non-wow players, maybe the people who have put in 2000 hours in the

01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:22.440
sims or in other MMR-peaches with housing that want to see what Blizzard has been cooking.

01:46:22.440 --> 01:46:24.480
And boy they have.

01:46:24.480 --> 01:46:28.600
It is something the players wanted since Vanilla, and for a good reason.

01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.640
It is content to be permanent.

01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:35.400
It is content that persists through expansions, cosmic threats, good and bad patches, without

01:46:35.400 --> 01:46:37.460
the fear of losing it.

01:46:37.460 --> 01:46:42.080
It is literally coming home, doing it at your own pace today.

01:46:42.080 --> 01:46:48.080
I've said this before, like I think housing makes a lot of sense for retail, and I think

01:46:48.080 --> 01:46:52.740
Aki does a great job in this video explaining why all of the permanent stuff can be kept

01:46:52.740 --> 01:46:58.600
in your house and it gives you a physical place to be like, look, this is all, this

01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:01.160
This is my count progress in a sense, right?

01:47:01.160 --> 01:47:02.080
It's pretty cool.

01:47:02.080 --> 01:47:05.360
For, I still like, I'm not a big housing guy necessarily.

01:47:05.360 --> 01:47:08.400
Like I don't care that much personally.

01:47:08.400 --> 01:47:10.000
I also don't really care in like classic.

01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:13.400
Like I do like to keep items, you know?

01:47:13.400 --> 01:47:15.840
Like Thunderfury, for example,

01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:18.280
if Classic Plus comes out and Thunderfury

01:47:18.280 --> 01:47:20.560
becomes a crappy sword within a year,

01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:23.680
like that would hurt, that would suck, right?

01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:27.160
Or like if some of these set bonuses,

01:47:27.160 --> 01:47:30.000
you just completely, they just get completely replaced

01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:30.960
and you never look at them again.

01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:31.960
Like that would suck.

01:47:31.960 --> 01:47:34.920
Like I like the idea of some type of gear permanence.

01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:38.080
So A to A horizontal progression for gearing.

01:47:39.180 --> 01:47:40.640
I would like that personally.

01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:43.920
Like I don't like that the only thing that matters

01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:47.200
in retail longterm is your pets and mounts.

01:47:47.200 --> 01:47:48.280
Like I don't like that.

01:47:48.280 --> 01:47:49.360
I really don't.

01:47:49.360 --> 01:47:51.280
I like having this horizontal system

01:47:51.280 --> 01:47:52.720
kind of like RuneScape, which once again,

01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:55.480
you know, we talked about why that's relevant.

01:47:55.480 --> 01:47:57.880
Tomorrow, next week, next expansion.

01:47:57.880 --> 01:47:59.640
Whenever it fits into your life.

01:48:02.040 --> 01:48:04.440
Time, story, and ownership.

01:48:04.440 --> 01:48:06.600
All of them fit into your life now.

01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:08.920
But there is still one thing missing.

01:48:08.920 --> 01:48:10.800
The desk you have to sit at.

01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:13.320
Ian said, if we were actively working towards

01:48:13.320 --> 01:48:15.200
bringing World of Warcraft to console

01:48:15.200 --> 01:48:16.640
or a bunch of other platforms,

01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:19.600
we'd be saying we're actively working towards this.

01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:22.040
But he continues, we have a lot of work to do,

01:48:22.040 --> 01:48:24.320
but it's a place where we want to land.

01:48:24.320 --> 01:48:27.760
Blizzard really is preparing for moving away from that desk.

01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.720
They natively support a gamepad since 2020.

01:48:30.720 --> 01:48:34.880
Prune the classes for Midnight to drastically reduce the buttons you have to press

01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:38.560
and even implement a rotation assist with one button rotation.

01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:43.440
And if that's not enough evidence, they don't want the players to rely on addons to play the game.

01:48:43.440 --> 01:48:46.480
They radically limited the access addons have to the game.

01:48:46.480 --> 01:48:50.000
Putting all of the game's combat events basically in a black box.

01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:54.000
Making the design of endgame content not reliant on addons.

01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.000
and Ian himself put it in writing.

01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:01.840
Yeah, kinda, except the fact that the add-on devs found another way around

01:49:01.840 --> 01:49:04.720
and they made the add-ons work anyway somehow

01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:09.360
and now we have like basically all the same stuff it's just not called week-or is anymore, you know?

01:49:09.360 --> 01:49:13.920
He said, they never designed four addons, but they've had to design around them.

01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:18.400
This is a great change in and of itself for everybody playing this game,

01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:20.160
including desktop players.

01:49:20.160 --> 01:49:25.200
But this also enables Blizzard to give non-desktop players down the road access to the endgame

01:49:25.200 --> 01:49:30.400
without the need of setting up add-ons on console and the icing on the cake.

01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:34.880
It also enables Blizzard to design their encounters with non-desktop players in mind.

01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:39.200
So why can't people join your raid from their Xbox yet?

01:49:39.200 --> 01:49:43.440
Because there's one important block missing for them that you might not have thought about

01:49:43.440 --> 01:49:48.320
right now. Communication. They can't talk. However, even for that,

01:49:48.320 --> 01:49:54.720
First building blocks are being implemented into the game with a ping wheel that has been implemented in 10.1.7.

01:49:55.360 --> 01:49:57.360
And, you know, that's not all.

01:49:57.440 --> 01:50:01.920
See, other mmorpgs are way further down the evergreen solar road than retailers.

01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:03.760
Fine fantasy 14.

01:50:03.760 --> 01:50:08.720
I'm just thinking like how mad these two blood elves are that he's just like sitting on the table.

01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:15.600
Like imagine you're having coffee with your friend and some dude just sits there and starts recording a youtube video.

01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:20.600
doesn't say a word to you, doesn't even like,

01:50:22.400 --> 01:50:25.240
like pretend you're not even there

01:50:25.240 --> 01:50:28.560
and he's just talking to the camera, recording a video.

01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:33.040
Like it's just a green screens are, no, no,

01:50:33.040 --> 01:50:35.100
I'm just saying, imagine how mad these blood elves

01:50:35.100 --> 01:50:38.000
would be though, like they've got to be pissed.

01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:39.800
They're trying to pretend like it doesn't bother them

01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:41.680
and they're continuing their conversation.

01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.480
But I'm thinking like, this guy is,

01:50:43.480 --> 01:50:46.140
This guy is griefing their whole coffee meetup right now.

01:50:50.280 --> 01:50:51.920
I feel for him.

01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:54.720
And for example, was built with story in mind.

01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:57.820
In-engine cutscenes are the tool for telling that story.

01:50:57.820 --> 01:50:59.400
For utilizing that correctly,

01:50:59.400 --> 01:51:01.200
you need an engine that supports it,

01:51:01.200 --> 01:51:02.840
that was built for it.

01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:04.200
That's how you gain the ability

01:51:04.200 --> 01:51:06.440
to create impactful in-engine cutscenes

01:51:06.440 --> 01:51:09.440
without it looking like, well, that.

01:51:09.440 --> 01:51:11.760
And why do I bring that up right now?

01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:14.600
because the better animation system for in-game cutscenes

01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:17.320
not only enabled Square Enix to tell deeper stories,

01:51:17.320 --> 01:51:20.700
it also allowed them to let players communicate and role-play

01:51:20.700 --> 01:51:24.060
without the need to ever type a single word.

01:51:24.060 --> 01:51:27.680
Not needing to type to communicate and interact with each other

01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:31.280
opens up the possibility for ditching Morse and keyboard as a whole.

01:51:31.280 --> 01:51:33.080
And that's exactly what they did.

01:51:33.080 --> 01:51:37.000
I've played the whole four or five, six hundred hours of the fine fantasy mainstay request

01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:39.800
without ever needing to use Morse or keyboard.

01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:40.840
And it works.

01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:46.440
It also works in raids, dungeons, housing, it even works in WoW with add-ons like console port.

01:51:46.440 --> 01:51:50.080
Especially now with the prune classes in midnight and one button rotation,

01:51:50.080 --> 01:51:53.040
the character control aspect is completely solved.

01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:58.040
And that is why I think the last Titan or the expansion after it

01:51:58.040 --> 01:52:01.560
will bring an overhauled animation and a mode system too.

01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:05.600
On the one hand, let players communicate without the need for a mouse and keyboard

01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:08.840
and on the other hand, to make the in-game cutscenes more immersive,

01:52:08.840 --> 01:52:13.080
Shifting the focus more on the story told by that rather than quest texts

01:52:13.080 --> 01:52:18.760
And I think it is very likely that either with that upgrade or one expansion after that upgrade lands

01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:24.100
We will see the first console port for Xbox. It's Microsoft after all and

01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:29.840
I know I know but you might be thinking does this guy really want to tell me that in a few years

01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:33.280
I may play my mythic plus with a tank that plays on his phone

01:52:33.800 --> 01:52:36.080
No, thank you to which I say

01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:38.800
Doesn't he already play like that?

01:52:38.840 --> 01:52:42.740
In a true, but let me tell you about an encounter I've had a lot of classic

01:52:43.180 --> 01:52:45.780
We were in a dungeon and our heel did really well

01:52:45.780 --> 01:52:50.860
I complimented him for that, but got a message from another guy in the party. He said

01:52:51.260 --> 01:52:55.300
Sorry, it's a little hard for him to reply. He's blind, but he's happy is doing well

01:52:55.980 --> 01:52:57.980
But it stuck with me and I got curious

01:52:57.980 --> 01:53:02.320
I researched it a little and this guy really was from a guilt for legally blind people

01:53:02.700 --> 01:53:07.380
They used an atom that told them exactly what was in front of them without ever seeing it

01:53:07.380 --> 01:53:12.880
And they even had a YouTube video explaining how it worked, but they heard instead of seeing while playing the game.

01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:37.400
And in the first moment it felt so alien.

01:53:37.400 --> 01:53:39.320
How could anybody play like that?

01:53:39.320 --> 01:53:40.960
But that is not the point.

01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:41.960
It's not about me.

01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:48.960
Who the f**k am I to tell people how they should perceive and play the game we all love because it's not the way I play?

01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:52.960
Especially if it was this performance that got me talking in the first place.

01:53:52.960 --> 01:54:00.960
There are people that play better on Steam Deck and achieve higher ratings than I do on PC and I perceive myself as a certified gamer.

01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:08.960
This situation has opened my eyes after thinking anything else than the desktop PC experience of what a forecaster was for me, not the foot experience.

01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:10.960
I was wrong.

01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:17.960
It is not the job of the people that come through those avenues to justify why they should be allowed to enjoy the same game.

01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:23.960
It is Blizzard's job to integrate them seamlessly without taking away from the existing player base,

01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:30.960
giving everybody who wants to enjoy the game the opportunity to do so, in whatever way fits their life.

01:54:32.960 --> 01:54:38.960
Great, now everything fits into your life, but how does that fit into World of Warcraft?

01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:44.160
True. Look at the timeline one more time. The plus line. Delfts, story mode, prey, housing.

01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:48.720
That's a buffet. Every one of those made playing together optional.

01:54:48.720 --> 01:54:53.680
Now look at the minus line. Every single entry on that side removed the reason to stand somewhere,

01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:58.480
and standing somewhere was the whole point. There is a study about this from 2006,

01:54:58.480 --> 01:55:03.520
so no nostalgia bias. 20 years before anyone argued about classic versus retail.

01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:10.520
Researchers from Stanford and Xerox Park tracked 129,000 bar characters for months,

01:55:10.520 --> 01:55:13.520
taking a census of five servers every few minutes.

01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:18.520
And this was 2005, during the absolute peak of this game replaces your life.

01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:22.520
And what they found? Most people played alone.

01:55:22.520 --> 01:55:25.520
Grouping didn't take over until the very last levels.

01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:28.520
Solo players even leveled about twice as fast.

01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:30.520
The title of the study is very fitting.

01:55:30.520 --> 01:55:32.520
Alone, together.

01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:36.600
Holy crap, this is exactly what we were just talking about.

01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:39.920
Yeah, wow, yeah, pretty cool.

01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:43.560
I feel like I might have heard about this

01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:46.000
in another video from months ago or something,

01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.760
but it was talked about in a different light.

01:55:48.760 --> 01:55:49.800
Pretty rad, right?

01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:51.760
Like, it is interesting.

01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:53.120
Like I said, I just did a poll.

01:55:53.120 --> 01:55:55.920
How many of you guys play 90% alone?

01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:57.480
And it's like the majority of people

01:55:57.480 --> 01:55:58.800
kind of play wild alone.

01:55:58.800 --> 01:56:00.480
Of course, you're gonna look for groups now and then

01:56:00.480 --> 01:56:02.440
and raids, but like, a lot of your journey

01:56:02.440 --> 01:56:07.240
that solo experience, right? Super interesting. Alone Together's an OSRS

01:56:07.240 --> 01:56:12.760
Iron Man thing, exactly, exactly. RuneScape does it very well, Hardcore wow

01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:16.520
does it very well, Plastic wow does it very well, I think Retail wow is trying to get that.

01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:20.680
It's that third space video, yeah I think it was. Because that was the finding.

01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:25.720
People don't play with each other, they play surrounded by each other. And that,

01:56:25.720 --> 01:56:31.080
the researchers wrote, is the actual magic of this game. Playing wow is like playing

01:56:31.080 --> 01:56:36.520
pinball in a crowded arcade where spectators gathered around the machine. Level 60s were

01:56:36.520 --> 01:56:42.040
simply left standing in front of the auction house for everyone to admire. They even used an

01:56:42.040 --> 01:56:48.440
exclamation mark for that observation and then scientific paper. So the social aspect of while

01:56:48.440 --> 01:56:54.840
was- You don't play with other people, you play around them like going to an arcade. Wow,

01:56:54.840 --> 01:57:00.600
that is very well said. That's exactly what I was trying to put in words like 30 minutes

01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:05.600
to go when we started this video. It's way more true than you might think. Because everyone

01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:10.740
is like, I asked you guys, like, do you like, like, should, should wow, what did I, what was

01:57:10.740 --> 01:57:14.700
the question? Everyone's like, no, like solo, wow, should not be a thing. Like it already

01:57:14.700 --> 01:57:19.340
is. Like this is how the majority of people interact with the game. It's cool because

01:57:19.340 --> 01:57:23.400
there's other people in the cities. It's not really playing solo as you're going

01:57:23.400 --> 01:57:29.240
on a solo journey, but there's other people in the world. Right? It's really interesting.

01:57:29.240 --> 01:57:31.120
That's why playing on Dead Servers bores me.

01:57:31.120 --> 01:57:32.360
Exactly.

01:57:32.360 --> 01:57:36.520
You can be going on a solo journey on a Dead Server and it sucks because you don't have other

01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:38.640
people around giving it meaning.

01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:42.160
Like you could play WoW offline on your own private server.

01:57:42.160 --> 01:57:47.120
In fact, funny enough, people have done this recently where they make their own private

01:57:47.120 --> 01:57:52.760
server and play solo and then have thousands of AI bots play with them.

01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:57.760
The AI bots are there to just populate the cities,

01:57:57.800 --> 01:58:00.140
the auction house, the world.

01:58:00.140 --> 01:58:01.300
You can group with them,

01:58:01.300 --> 01:58:03.640
and people have been playing this way.

01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:07.620
Where they're playing offline with AI bots,

01:58:07.620 --> 01:58:09.800
World of Warcraft and their own house.

01:58:09.800 --> 01:58:12.720
It's like alone, but like with other AI bots,

01:58:12.720 --> 01:58:14.180
it's really, really interesting.

01:58:14.180 --> 01:58:16.120
Anyway, yeah, well, I want to then server

01:58:16.120 --> 01:58:16.960
doesn't feel the same,

01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:19.960
because you want people around you when you're gaming.

01:58:19.960 --> 01:58:21.120
Right?

01:58:21.120 --> 01:58:28.380
never only grouping up. It was having an audience. It was being seen. Look at the name, MMORPG,

01:58:28.380 --> 01:58:34.160
the second amp, multiplayer. If you believe the study, that one was always optional. Nobody

01:58:34.160 --> 01:58:39.520
lost anything when Blizzard made it official, but the first amp, massively, the crowd.

01:58:39.520 --> 01:58:44.860
That one was never optional, and that's the one thing that is shrinking right now.

01:58:44.860 --> 01:58:49.320
So what is the problem today? Why does the current expansion's capital not feel

01:58:49.320 --> 01:58:55.080
like Stormwind did in 2006. The problem is the room. Go to Silver Moon today and look

01:58:55.080 --> 01:59:01.320
at it. It's beautiful. But nobody really notices you anymore. And there are three reasons for

01:59:01.320 --> 01:59:06.680
that. And every one of them is on that minus line. And the first one is flying. Everybody

01:59:06.680 --> 01:59:13.480
sips past you, over you at supersonic speeds. And Blizzard says no plans to restrict flight.

01:59:13.480 --> 01:59:17.400
So the second one is when you see somebody standing at a place in the city that has

01:59:17.400 --> 01:59:22.760
no utility. It is because they bring their own utility to it. They sold a mount with an auction

01:59:22.760 --> 01:59:27.880
house and a mailbox on its back for 90 dollars, essentially making the flight let along the walk

01:59:27.880 --> 01:59:34.360
to most NPCs in town pointless. And the third one is Sharding. Even if somebody does stand there,

01:59:34.360 --> 01:59:40.680
you might not see them. There's a whole- This is a very good video. Absolutely. Those are-

01:59:40.680 --> 01:59:45.560
We've talked about these in the past. Top three, bro. You have Phasing, Sharding,

01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:50.280
flying and no reason to actually go into a town in the first place because you can just use your

01:59:50.280 --> 01:59:55.960
own auction house mount right like classic wow classic plus hopefully there's no flying

01:59:55.960 --> 02:00:00.280
hopefully actually still need to go to storm when to use the auction house hopefully there's no

02:00:00.280 --> 02:00:04.920
like layering i mean there probably will be but like you know like all of these systems that

02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:09.320
take people apart you want you want the cities to feel like packed and crowded and exciting

02:00:09.320 --> 02:00:14.520
to go into right and you actually see other people somebody does stand there you might

02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:19.080
might not see them. There's a whole thread of role-players about 20 players in the Sizzle

02:00:19.080 --> 02:00:24.760
Moon Inn they couldn't see. Back in 2012, Blizzard promised capital cities will not

02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:30.480
be set as cross-server. That rule is gone. And, to be fair, Classic has layers too.

02:00:30.480 --> 02:00:36.480
So this one is not exclusive to retail only. And Blizzard probably knows all of this.

02:00:36.480 --> 02:00:40.920
Holly Longdale again? This idea of third space in our online worlds. We can't even

02:00:40.920 --> 02:00:45.960
define what that means exactly. But we're working on figuring that out. We want people to come in,

02:00:45.960 --> 02:00:51.080
hang out and have birthdays, weddings, raids, grand adventures, play with their friends,

02:00:51.080 --> 02:00:56.040
meet new friends. That might be the most honest quote in this entire video.

02:00:56.040 --> 02:01:00.840
And they are testing. The Argentina, for instance, is a tavern built for hanging out,

02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:05.800
with a stage for player performances. Players call it now a cozy ghost hall.

02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:10.120
I don't find I have a reason to go there anymore, except to half, somebody wrote.

02:01:10.120 --> 02:01:15.220
And the second test is neighborhoods. They said garrisons were isolating.

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Neighborhoods exist to bring people together. But you can also fly there.

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There is no auction house and even if so, you could use your own auction house mod.

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And well, 50 houses is a street. It's not a capital city.

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In addition, neighborhoods are in part asynchronous. Other players can visit

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your house even if you're offline, if you let them. They want to introduce guest books,

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upwards and so on. Your crowd will become a feed, which isn't in itself a bad thing.

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It can be a great addition to the synchronous crowd the 2006 paper talked about. And asynchronous

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isn't one experiment. It's the design principle. The neighborhood makes progress together, but

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nobody has to be there together. Your neighborhood becomes a decorated house and a progress bar.

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In 2005, players were alone together. In 2026, you're alone, with the evidence

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that others exist.

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Remember Limsa-Lewenza from Final Fantasy XIV?

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It's kind of a solo game up until the late game.

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They also have asynchronous stuff like housing with guest books.

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But they also get a full square in their capitals.

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Because the market bought the bank and the vendors

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all sit 20 meters around the etheride.

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That's a quick travel point.

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And there are no mountains allowed in the city.

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And I've been told old-school Runescape runs the same recipe

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with the Grand Exchange, where the bank and the market are at one spot, reachable on foot.

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You don't have to stand there, but everyone does.

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You can think about find a fancy what you want.

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You can dislike the graphics, the out direction, the story, etc.

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But don't you agree that is freaking cool that people gather here and interact?

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Yeah, so on the asynchronous side for World of Warcraft, there are building rooms

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for people you know, and a feed for people you don't.

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And for the people you know on the synchronous side, you also got your house and all the activities

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in the endgame you can do together.

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But for the people you don't know, sure, you get matched with them, Mythic Plus, Raids,

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the group finder, but that's playing with strangers, in an instance for a task, and

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then the group dissolves.

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What's missing is playing around strangers, the people standing right next to you,

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without a reason.

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The pinball machine.

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My lobby is made of waiting and Blizzard spent 15 years removing the waiting, so it fits into your life.

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So, here's the experiment I would run if I were Blizzard.

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Okay.

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Don't create new artificial rooms.

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We've got more than enough of them.

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In the next expansion, create a capital that is smaller.

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Make a fixed space in that capital where you have to walk to, auction house and bank there, as well as the main story NPCs.

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One chart, no mounts.

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Perhaps even move the dungeon finder window away from a hotkey and put the

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menu into an NPC you have to talk to. Make the people walk past each other and

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pay attention. I don't... I mean these are good ideas but I just think retail is

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not in the position to really implement them in a meaningful way

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because you do a smaller capital with an auction house and a bank and

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and whatever, but like at the end of the day,

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you could just fly to another bank

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on a flying mount that goes a billion miles an hour.

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You can go to your auction house mount

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or someone else's auction house mount.

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The Dungeon Finder on an NPC,

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like people would just queue for it anyway,

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even if there was an NPC.

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So like it doesn't like,

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retail has like grown past all of this.

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I think it's trying to like classify retail,

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classic-ify retail.

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I don't know if you can do it anymore, man.

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Like these are all good ideas.

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Like I like them.

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I just think retail is like past this.

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Like you can't really go back in a sense.

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Yeah, I don't know if any of this stuff would actually work.

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I think they're good ideas.

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It's too late, Bennett.

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Like for something like a classic plus,

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you have so much from retail

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that we've learned to not do, right?

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Because it's fun, but it breaks the player experience

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a little bit and it breaks the social interaction.

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Flying mounts great example, right?

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Auction house mounts great example.

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Like you can't just add these things

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even though they're great quality of life

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and they can be short term fun

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because then it like,

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now you're not running into other people, right?

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So I think they're really fun lessons to learn from

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but it's some of these things,

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what's the analogy like?

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It's a cog that only goes one way.

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you can't reverse it, you can't actually go back.

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And like, that's how like flying is,

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I think that's how like these auction house mounts are.

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You can't just say, hey guys,

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we're gonna take away the auction house mounts

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and your flying mounts,

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and we're gonna go back to like,

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how things used to be like,

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you can't really do that anymore, right?

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We're past that,

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but a lot of good lessons for Classic Plus, definitely.

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You have to talk to,

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make the people walk past each other and pay attention.

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I don't expect them to do it.

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And I think that's the mistake.

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But I think they will go somewhat into that direction.

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At BlizzCon this year they will likely announce a new space for people together, directly linked

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to housing and neighborhoods.

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Maybe Guild Halls, maybe some place for celebrations or weddings.

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But those spaces will be secluded, small groups of people who already know each other.

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The second M stays, the first one gets smaller.

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There are millions of players doing M-plus, park rates, guild rates, housing, PvP and

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And all the other great systems it has so often.

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What got less is the random encounters in the world.

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The names you recognize, the guilt you belong to, and that's okay.

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This doesn't mean you have a worse experience than in classic.

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World of Warcraft is getting renovated right now, and we can feel it.

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Multiple ways of playing, solo or in a group, synchronous or asynchronous, PvE, PvP,

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or just collecting or doing housing, playing at a desktop PC or on the couch, on your

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TV on your Xbox. It's letting you create your own experience. But when it is finished

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for Classic with Classic Plus and for retail with the expansion after the last Titan, I

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truly believe it can be as revolutionary again as it has been in 2004. But what do you think?

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Would that still be a world of forecraft for you? Let me know down below. I love

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reading your comments.

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So I used to think like this, where I was like, how can we turn WoW into what it

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used to be, right? That was like taking up so much of my headspace for so many years. How can we

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bring in the old into the new? How can we revive this thing into its former glory? That was my

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question I was trying to answer. And what I've realized over the years is that people do like

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retail with all of these modern things. But I might not be that population anymore as much,

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but that brings some really cool stuff like Mythic Plus and Mythic Raids and a lot of these modern

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things are kind of cool in their own way, but it's just different. So instead of trying to make

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retail feel like classic, you just have two products. You have retail with all of its cool

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modern offerings and you don't have to try to turn it into something it's not, right? Like

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what's that quote? Like you love someone for who they are instead of trying to love someone for

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Who you want them to be?

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Maybe I botched that a little bit, but it's like if you like retail

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It's like this is just who this is just what retail is so it's not trying to just change it into what it used to be

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Right, but we also have classic and I think that's why Blizzard wants to build classic plus to be like hey look

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Here's what all of you guys want right?

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This is the smaller world no flying no auction house mount no

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no sharding, no modern conveniences of queuing

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from everything from a menu, right?

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No, just like sitting in the city spam queuing.

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It's like, let's make a space where we can do this stuff

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and let's leave retail alone.

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So that's kind of where my mind's been

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at the last many years.

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It's like, let's give up trying to change retail.

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It's its own thing now and it's successful

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in its own way and it has its cool things about it.

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But maybe I'm just more pessimistic than this guy

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or maybe I've just thought about it for longer.

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I've been thinking about this for many years,

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but I was on that train for a long time.

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How can we make retail into its former glory?

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I've left that behind, I'm sorry.

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Retails its own new cool thing,

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and it might not be for everyone,

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but we have classic and classic plus is coming,

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so we have something else to look forward to.

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It just seems to me like a healthier mindset

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than trying to continue to change this thing, right?

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Well that was like what two hours for this video. She's Louise catch. Good morning

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Good morning. Good morning

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Good morning. Good morning. Good morning

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That was all

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Classic plus hype

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Classic plus layers though. Yeah, I agree. Like I'm not a big fan of layers, but we'll

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see what happens. In shrouded hype in a month. Oh, you know about that. Have you seen Preachy's

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This video, yeah, it's really good.

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It's very solid.

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Why are you reading over classic plus confirmed comments?

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Cause it's been confirmed for like over a year

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and I'm getting tired of the people just keep saying that.

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So it's like, all right guys, yeah,

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we've known for like over a year.

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Guys, it's read the blue posts.

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Good as gracious.

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But there's always someone new who comes in that like hasn't been following it and they're

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like wait a minute what did I miss?

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Okay.

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There was, oh yeah this willy video I haven't seen this one.

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Can you show the blue post that confirms it?

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Yeah sure.

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I have a command for it,

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cause people come in and ask all the time.

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It's linked in the chat, enjoy.

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Sweet.

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Okay, guys, we got to check our Discord messages here.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Looks like, uh, sweet.

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Okay.

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One sec, guys.

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It would be great to be able to say hi at some point if you are available.

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All right, there we go.

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Nice.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'm not fan-boying. I'm...

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I'm strategizing a...

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a meet-up...

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with, like, like, strat...

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I'm strategizing potential...

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things that could happen, right? Like, we're...

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Yeah. Networking. That's right. Yeah.

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Every game that runs long enough is bound to leap.

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bound to leave networking networking networking. Yep. Yep. Um, okay, cool. What else is happening

02:13:42.280 --> 02:13:48.520
guys? What else is happening? We got a $5 donor from larbson. He says, um, how do you

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convince Blizzard to revert the auction house amount? I assume it's the most sold mount.

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how do you sit down until plus or the amount is bad?

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You can't.

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That was kind of my point.

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You can't go back.

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You can't remove flying.

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You can't remove, there's certain things

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you can only go in one direction on.

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That's why I'm saying it's a much healthier mindset

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in my opinion to like go and build Classic Plus

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and drop the idea of trying to make retail

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into something it's not.

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Right, I figured this out like three or four years ago.

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So I've kind of dropped the idea of trying to bring back

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the classic feeling into retail.

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It's like, you can't really do that anymore.

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I don't know, do I sound really pessimistic when I say that?

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I think it's just the truth.

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And I'm not hating on retail, by the way.

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Like I think retail with Mythic Plus and Mythic Raids,

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like I played start of midnight, like it's fun.

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It's just realistic.

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Yeah, it's just like, it's just not,

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it's not gonna be that anymore.

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I got, you know, you just can't.

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I'm not not trying to be a negative Nancy.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, there's been lots of evidence for people.

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I've talked about this so much.

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But we'll cover it again

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because there's some people in the chat

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that haven't read this.

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This was like over a year ago now, BluePost,

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they shut down Season of Discovery

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and said, and I quote,

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we've made the decision to slow down

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on Season of Discovery and begin work

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on our next major project in the original WoW Design space from Blizzard themselves over

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a year ago, stopping Saad to work on the next major project in the original WoW Design space,

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not WOD original WoW Design space, said in plain text over a year ago, we've had confirmation

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for a long time. Could this mean classic while mobile? Technically, yes. Welcome to the conversation.

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There we go. But yeah, it's the next that's what this is the thing that people are calling

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the next thing. Classic plus is its name came a lot whatever. This is what we've known for a year

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over a year. So there we go. We've said this. All right, right when this came out, I was like

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screaming and running around my room. What was this like a year and a half ago? 2025.

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Yeah, almost a year and a half ago. I was like running around my room screaming like classic

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plus confirmed in my whole chat. It's like, this guy's on some copium. And like, it's like,

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Well, I can read, too.

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What class am I playing?

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Mage.

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Yep.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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Zara's the copium critique fatigue.

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Yeah, I mean, I know I am the copium guy.

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Like, that's fine.

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Like, I have, like, I want wow to be good, you know?

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Yo, Snooty, thanks so much for the promen.

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Sorry, you have a Windows update to complete.

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I'm not doing that.

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No, I'm not doing it.

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Absolutely not.

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Don Lee, thanks for the front.

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Does that mean they started at this point or was it

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in development before this?

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I would assume content was started a little before this,

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or at least at this,

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but probably a little before they officially announced things.

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So, yeah, I don't know.

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So this is what, like almost a year and a half.

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It's probably like a couple of months before this.

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So it's been a while.

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Sean Rowe, thanks for the run.

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Um, um, um, um.

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It's the last stream before the con, yep, yep, yep.

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Idle log, thanks for the prom.

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Mafia, thanks for the prom.

02:18:39.560 --> 02:18:41.500
Zara, what do you think about the iPhone Duo?

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I haven't looked at it too much.

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If you guys didn't see this,

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it's like a phone like this,

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but it opens, like folds and like opens like that.

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I don't know.

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I, this might be like a real like boomer take.

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I just like, I don't know if I get it.

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Like, dude, this reminds me of my prediction on the iPad.

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So when the iPad came out, I had my phone and I was like,

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iPads are stupid.

02:19:09.260 --> 02:19:12.020
I would just rather use my phone or if I need a computer,

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I'd get my computer out.

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So my prediction for the iPad is that it would fail,

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which I was terribly wrong about,

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because who the heck needs this middle size screen

02:19:21.740 --> 02:19:23.840
because just open up a laptop or use your phone,

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one or the other, which by the way, that's what I still do.

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I still don't own a tablet.

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So in my life, I was correct,

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but clearly not for everyone else.

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This reminds me of the same thing.

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It's like, okay, you have a phone.

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All right, that's already a phone.

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And now you have like this middle screen thing.

02:19:38.640 --> 02:19:40.640
Like, why do you need a screen this big?

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It's not quite a tablet.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I think I'd rather just have a normal phone.

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What do you guys think?

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Am I wrong here?

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Am I wrong again?

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I might be wrong again.

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I was wrong with the iPad.

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Maybe this will be crazy successful.

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I just don't know if I see it.

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I agree with you, not wrong.

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Okay, maybe I'm right this time.

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Or maybe all of us are wrong together.

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That would be fun.

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Maybe this is the phone

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that we're all gonna have 10 years from now.

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I, yeah, I just don't know if I see it.

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Like,

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has any of you guys had a thought recently

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where you're just like,

02:20:17.900 --> 02:20:21.340
oh man, I really wanna flip phone again.

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like the 2000s.

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Have you guys thought that?

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Cause I haven't.

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No, yes, no, yes.

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Cause like, who is this appealing to like,

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the guy that's like, oh man, I want that flip phone back.

02:20:34.460 --> 02:20:36.120
Like, bro, I had a razor growing up

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and like, it was sick growing up,

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but like, I don't care now.

02:20:39.980 --> 02:20:41.860
Like, I'm not like, oh, I want my flip phone back.

02:20:41.860 --> 02:20:46.260
Like, bro, my iPhone is way better than my razor ever was.

02:20:46.260 --> 02:20:49.020
Actually, in a sense, it's kind of nice

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that the razor, you could just call people and like text.

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iPhone is almost like two connected,

02:20:55.180 --> 02:20:57.180
but that's a whole different conversation.

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Anyway, does anyone love this idea

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and can convince me why it's the next best thing?

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Is there anyone in the chat that's like, bro, this is it?

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This is the sickest thing I can explain to you all

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why it's great?

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Yes, watch Apple's event from yesterday.

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It's actually not bad.

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Watch the video, you'll understand.

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So maybe I have to actually watch the video.

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Maybe there's some cool features that I don't get,

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but apparently it has a worse camera than an iPhone,

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and it's $2,000 because it's bigger,

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but it doesn't, it can't take as good of a picture

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as an iPhone, so you'd still want like a,

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I don't know, man, I don't know.

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I just can't, I don't, I don't know.

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New Warcraft post 10 minutes ago, what is it?

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Yeah, like I said, maybe I'm just a complete boomer take.

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Very, very, very possible.

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Two-day countdown to BlizzCon, watch the AWC and MBI Grand Finals live as the 2026 champions

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are crowned.

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Bro, I can't wait to watch an AWC.

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I know a lot of you guys don't care about PVP, but I do.

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I have my history as a PVP-er, and every year this is my Super Bowl then.

02:22:33.300 --> 02:22:36.860
This was my Super Bowl, and I haven't seen one since 2019.

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So quick math, it's been seven years.

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I can't wait to watch the AWC finals

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for the first time in seven years, bro.

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It's like, imagine not having a Super Bowl for seven years

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and then you get to go to the Super Bowl

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assuming you like football.

02:22:52.340 --> 02:22:53.860
Like that's what this is for me.

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Like I can't wait.

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Why has it not been here in seven years?

02:23:00.460 --> 02:23:04.200
COVID, then other things, it's been a while.

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Hey, that's my Merciless Glad Eater's gavel.

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He's got that thing.

02:23:30.580 --> 02:23:36.300
These videos always give me so high to have love on.

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Although I don't like the new models, Blizzard, I don't NOT like the new models, but I like the videos.

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for the last time

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I guess I should explain these videos for a little bit for people who've never seen it.

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Blizzard takes the armory characters of all the MDI and AWC competitors and they put

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them into a like little feature film here where like so this I don't know who it is maybe Calvish

02:24:38.660 --> 02:24:43.460
this is like Calvish's actual character with his same transmog and they have them all fighting

02:24:43.460 --> 02:24:47.300
so what's going to happen at Blizzcon and they have like they mock up like a fight

02:24:48.180 --> 02:24:52.500
it's pretty cool like it's pretty it's like I nerd out over it every time like these are

02:24:52.500 --> 02:24:55.860
actual like the characters of all the people that are going to be competing

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Anyway, I nerd out on it.

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Yes sir!

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I don't I don't follow MDI as much as maybe

02:26:55.740 --> 02:27:03.020
some of you guys but man I can't wait for the AWC. Wicked. Yes sir. There was one one

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year with peekaboo in it. I remember they did but I can't I don't know if I can find

02:27:08.380 --> 02:27:13.540
the link of it but I think they had him like take a selfie in game was pretty sick. Brand

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new. The classic plus leaks are too good to be true from Belialar. Oh my gosh. Django

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Thanks for the 2-1-Sum. Appreciate you.

02:27:27.380 --> 02:27:28.380
Um...

02:27:28.380 --> 02:27:30.380
Mum-mum-mum.

02:27:31.380 --> 02:27:33.380
Mum-mum-mum-mum.

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Let's see the Pika Club. I don't know, man.

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Don't know if I can find it.

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There's the Ballylar fit and then Willy...

02:27:48.380 --> 02:27:50.380
Willy-Willy.

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What a macarons going dude XE year thanks for the Q1 appreciate you 48 hours until the real thing. Oh my gosh

02:28:12.360 --> 02:28:14.580
So much hype yeah, all right

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Do you guys want the Belial our classic plus leaks to be true or the willy most defining moments a while's 20 year history?

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I might watch both, but which one first?

02:28:23.380 --> 02:28:25.140
Hmm, hmm, hmm.

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Sauce, thanks LePrem.

02:28:27.480 --> 02:28:29.240
Bellylar, Bellylar, Bellylar, Bellylar.

02:28:29.540 --> 02:28:30.520
Okay, most people on Bellylar.

02:28:30.520 --> 02:28:31.880
Well, I think we'll do Willys too.

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But, let's see this one first.

02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:35.840
Bellylar! Classic plus leaks are too good to be true.

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What's going on B?

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The project codename Camelot is not what you think,

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and it may not even be the Classic Plus that we've all been expecting.

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It isn't a few zones stitched onto the edge of the world.

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It isn't Blizzard dusting off unused outland maps.

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and it isn't a dive back into the classic era as we've understood it. At least, all that will

02:28:55.900 --> 02:29:02.380
be the case if the recent flood of leaks is anything to go by. You see, like a submarine under pressure,

02:29:02.380 --> 02:29:07.980
the leaks are coming thick and fast, and what they show is something bigger and more ambitious

02:29:07.980 --> 02:29:14.940
than we imagined. Well, we'll find out very soon at BlizzCon. But some dedicated sleuths have

02:29:14.940 --> 02:29:20.460
been doing the digging and it certainly seems most of this stuff is true and that is why I give this

02:29:20.460 --> 02:29:26.460
video the heaviest of spoiler warnings because there's a very real chance that after you watch this

02:29:26.460 --> 02:29:33.260
video what you understand classic plus to be will actually line up with what we see at Blacom.

02:29:34.220 --> 02:29:41.580
Wow! Wow that I mean wow Belialar is basically just saying it goodness gracious.

02:29:41.580 --> 02:29:45.580
If the leaks, which do appear to be credible, end up being true.

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Camelot may not be the Azeroth we know because it's very likely set in a different timeline or different time periods altogether.

02:29:52.580 --> 02:30:01.580
The possibilities for when it's set will drive veterans out of their minds and they'll introduce a whole new generation to one of Warcraft's most important stories.

02:30:01.580 --> 02:30:06.540
stories. I was actually watching an S-Fan stream and he was talking about like

02:30:08.620 --> 02:30:15.980
it would be cool if you had a game set like Classic Plus or a different game or something set in

02:30:15.980 --> 02:30:23.420
like Warcraft 2 or like Warcraft 3 before WoW or this and that but then he was saying like

02:30:23.420 --> 02:30:26.540
it would just be cool but doesn't know how good it would actually be. What do you guys think

02:30:26.540 --> 02:30:33.620
about this? What would you rather have like what what actually let me let me

02:30:33.620 --> 02:30:41.140
re-ask what timeline would be the sickest timeline? Classic era after Nax is

02:30:41.140 --> 02:30:48.940
the obvious timeline right? What happened after Nax? But you could also say like

02:30:48.940 --> 02:30:55.460
what if it was like pre like Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3? Brand new world but looks

02:30:55.460 --> 02:31:04.020
I wouldn't like that. I don't think um war of the ancients era yeah like that

02:31:04.020 --> 02:31:12.020
could actually go kind of hard pre-next post-rath no cata first war were the

02:31:12.020 --> 02:31:16.940
ancients like that could go kind of hard so with blizzcon a few days away I'm

02:31:16.940 --> 02:31:21.620
pulling all of these links together for a last look at what Camelot might be

02:31:21.620 --> 02:31:26.520
If nothing else you'll be impressed by the sheer scope of what we are hearing

02:31:27.320 --> 02:31:29.160
Leaks leaks leaks leaks. Okay

02:31:29.160 --> 02:31:31.680
Let's get stuck in with the largest Camelot leak

02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:35.300
Which is basically the thing that appears to confirm that this stuff's kind of true

02:31:35.300 --> 02:31:40.060
So back in the summer of 2025 a Redditor leaked a huge road map

02:31:40.560 --> 02:31:44.780
Warcraft's future on behalf of their partner who had just been let go by Blizzard

02:31:44.860 --> 02:31:48.920
It had an arthus RPG on its TV shows and even an RTS

02:31:48.920 --> 02:31:53.560
And by the way, on the RTS game side of things, there was a whole separate rumor mill that

02:31:53.560 --> 02:32:00.160
does seem to suggest that Relic of all people could be doing that Warcraft RTS project.

02:32:00.160 --> 02:32:04.600
Who knows about that, but let's refocus onto Camelot, because tucked in amongst all those

02:32:04.600 --> 02:32:08.360
cool things was something called Camelot.

02:32:08.360 --> 02:32:10.120
Now it actually sat under the-

02:32:10.120 --> 02:32:13.120
Is there supposed to be the image up right here?

02:32:13.120 --> 02:32:21.440
radar for nearly a year until veteran dataminer Steven found heroic and epic licenses for it.

02:32:21.440 --> 02:32:22.440
That was pretty crazy.

02:32:22.440 --> 02:32:25.400
Those are the game additions that Blizzard sells to us.

02:32:25.400 --> 02:32:28.640
And that was effectively confirmation that Camelot was real.

02:32:28.640 --> 02:32:33.000
I mean, we literally have a leaked roadmap suggesting Camelot exists and then we have

02:32:33.000 --> 02:32:40.120
a veteran dataminer finding a reference to a Blizzard store product for Camelot.

02:32:40.120 --> 02:32:47.820
What is your guys' preferred monetization model for Classic Plus?

02:32:47.820 --> 02:32:53.080
My preference is you do the same thing with Sod and it's free, but that's probably not

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happening.

02:32:54.560 --> 02:32:55.560
Just the Sub.

02:32:55.560 --> 02:32:59.260
So that's what they do with Classic or with Sod, it's just the Sub.

02:32:59.260 --> 02:33:01.200
You have a Sub, you get to play.

02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:03.880
No box price.

02:33:03.880 --> 02:33:04.880
There's options.

02:33:04.880 --> 02:33:07.760
There's a box price and a Sub.

02:33:07.760 --> 02:33:09.500
There's just a Sub with no box price.

02:33:09.500 --> 02:33:18.060
There's a sub, no box price, but then a store.

02:33:18.060 --> 02:33:21.740
Please know, there's, what other options?

02:33:21.740 --> 02:33:25.900
Oh, there's also the option of a separate sub.

02:33:25.900 --> 02:33:29.100
So not your retail sub, but a new sub.

02:33:29.100 --> 02:33:33.940
So now you need, it's just a sub, no box price, but it's a separate sub than your

02:33:33.940 --> 02:33:34.940
other sub.

02:33:34.940 --> 02:33:35.940
That's an option.

02:33:35.940 --> 02:33:41.180
Don't think they'll do that, but that is what Dave on what was his name Dave on dev said that

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That he thinks that that's gonna be the case

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Why can't we have a box?

02:33:48.140 --> 02:33:50.820
Shrew active sub plus box price

02:33:52.380 --> 02:33:59.420
I've talked about this before and it seems like a lot of you guys are actually okay with a box price if

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It means no store

02:34:02.180 --> 02:34:06.580
You'd rather have a box price than a store, is that about right?

02:34:06.580 --> 02:34:12.900
I don't want to speak for everyone here, but I think a lot of people kind of, yeah, I'm

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okay with a box price, but there can't also then be a shop.

02:34:16.940 --> 02:34:22.980
I think I agree with that, I think the store is like a big no-no, absolutely, that would

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be rough.

02:34:23.980 --> 02:34:30.380
I mean, come on, it does make sense, now that of course got our minds racing, Warcraft

02:34:30.380 --> 02:34:33.900
has always leaned heavily enough on Arthurian legends.

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Medevis Marlin, Arthas is Arthur Uther, is Uther, you got the point.

02:34:40.300 --> 02:34:44.580
So is this blizzard taking Warcraft back to its original inspirations?

02:34:44.580 --> 02:34:48.340
Basically, Arthurian legend plus the art of Frank Frazetta.

02:34:48.340 --> 02:34:51.740
And if it is that, then think about the last time all those characters were on the

02:34:51.740 --> 02:34:53.500
main stage of Warcraft.

02:34:53.500 --> 02:34:55.220
It was Warcraft 3.

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And Warcraft 3 is probably Warcraft's most important story.

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At the time of those leaks and Steven's data mining, the speculation could only go so far.

02:35:05.980 --> 02:35:10.020
Then came the Skyborne, or should I say, the Skyborne drama.

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These are new elves in the setting because if there's something Warcraft needs, it is

02:35:13.940 --> 02:35:15.940
obviously more elves!

02:35:15.940 --> 02:35:16.940
Elves on?

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Millions of the buggers, everywhere!

02:35:18.740 --> 02:35:19.940
Now what were these elves?

02:35:19.940 --> 02:35:20.940
Where did they come from?

02:35:20.940 --> 02:35:21.940
Were they for retail?

02:35:21.940 --> 02:35:26.620
Well, the only data-mined evidence that we had was some data-mined housing assets.

02:35:26.620 --> 02:35:27.620
Housing assets?

02:35:27.620 --> 02:35:29.620
detail. Maybe not, though.

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Coonshot, thanks for the prime. Dr. Good-Loving thanks for the two and Evil thanks for the

02:35:32.780 --> 02:35:33.780
prime.

02:35:33.780 --> 02:35:39.100
And that's because the first potential sighting of the Skyborne turned up on the classic sub

02:35:39.100 --> 02:35:40.100
Reddit.

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Now we take a look at the model. It does seem a little too high-poly for a classic asset.

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But that may actually be the wrong way to think about it, because it might not

02:35:49.460 --> 02:35:52.660
be one or the other. It might actually be both.

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Now why this gets more interesting is that things have locked into place over the

02:35:55.980 --> 02:35:59.580
past few weeks. Content creators from the retail mythic scene.

02:36:00.380 --> 02:36:06.380
Jerome. You guys might know Jerome, we actually filmed from my same studio. There we go. The most

02:36:06.380 --> 02:36:12.300
real classic plus leak we've ever seen. I actually never saw that. Not classic. Started posting leaks

02:36:12.300 --> 02:36:16.380
that started to line up with each other. So here's the big stuff from those leaks.

02:36:16.940 --> 02:36:22.220
Camelot is apparently set in a different timeline. Warcraft 3 is so good. One is just

02:36:22.220 --> 02:36:28.380
before Warcraft 3, and the other is during the first war. And both are incredible possibilities for

02:36:28.380 --> 02:36:34.620
the game. Next, it's apparently built using retail assets, but you'll be able to toggle between retail

02:36:34.620 --> 02:36:40.860
and classic graphics, which would at least explain the high- You guys already know how I feel about

02:36:40.860 --> 02:36:49.660
this. I'm a big classic graphic kinda guy, alright? The toggle works, so like when I

02:36:49.660 --> 02:36:51.980
When I played Warcraft 3, you have the option.

02:36:51.980 --> 02:36:54.980
Do you want the new stuff or the old stuff?

02:36:54.980 --> 02:36:55.980
Fine, fine.

02:36:55.980 --> 02:36:58.980
You know, honestly, Biss, that makes everyone happy.

02:36:58.980 --> 02:37:01.460
But like, yeah, that kind of works.

02:37:01.460 --> 02:37:03.540
A Polly Skyborne Elf.

02:37:03.540 --> 02:37:07.020
Graphics aside, it is apparently though still going to be classic.

02:37:07.020 --> 02:37:11.900
And what I mean by that is that the combat, the talent trees, the vibe are all classic.

02:37:11.900 --> 02:37:15.740
Now the big pointer towards our timelines and the ones that I've referenced here,

02:37:15.740 --> 02:37:20.860
Well that would be the claim the Dalaran features quite heavily in this game, and the Dalaran

02:37:20.860 --> 02:37:25.420
is still going to be on the ground in Hillsbrite, and that pretty much means it's got to be

02:37:25.420 --> 02:37:29.700
set before the last mission of Warcraft 3's undead campaign because that's when our

02:37:29.700 --> 02:37:31.940
command destroys Dalaran.

02:37:31.940 --> 02:37:35.820
Okay, so there's that stuff, and it's coming from some content creators.

02:37:35.820 --> 02:37:41.740
Now a second set of leaks landed on the MMO Champion forums as they tend to around

02:37:41.740 --> 02:37:42.740
the same time.

02:37:42.740 --> 02:37:47.740
Now these said that it would be set during the first war right as the old Horde invades Azeroth.

02:37:47.740 --> 02:37:56.140
That sounds pretty awesome, and hey, it could be two leakers looking at the same pre-3rd war world and just not knowing exactly where in the time I...

02:38:00.940 --> 02:38:08.540
Does anyone else get annoyed by leaks with absolutely zero evidence?

02:38:09.340 --> 02:38:12.460
Like, at least a lot, like, at least this image

02:38:12.460 --> 02:38:14.460
we looked at the start is like a screenshot.

02:38:14.460 --> 02:38:15.780
It's like, okay, now you can think,

02:38:15.780 --> 02:38:20.780
is this real, is this fake, is this part real?

02:38:20.940 --> 02:38:25.500
But like, when we see posts with just like,

02:38:25.500 --> 02:38:27.100
with just like a bunch of dashes,

02:38:27.100 --> 02:38:30.380
like a four-changes, like, it's like, what, what?

02:38:30.380 --> 02:38:31.940
What are you basing this on?

02:38:33.460 --> 02:38:35.900
Like, give me something.

02:38:35.900 --> 02:38:37.140
Like say nothing at all

02:38:37.140 --> 02:38:44.300
Give me something that you're basing it on like one of the other and they would fit still sounds great blizzard send us back to you know

02:38:44.460 --> 02:38:47.780
The wars that literally started war craft

02:38:47.820 --> 02:38:54.700
I'm pretty down for that actually and it was honestly and especially with warcraft 3 the peak of blizzard storytelling and

02:38:55.020 --> 02:39:01.240
Fundamentally that is the world we fell in love with and it is that world from which the world of warcraft grew

02:39:01.320 --> 02:39:04.040
But here is where we need to take a bit of a sharp breath

02:39:04.040 --> 02:39:09.240
apparently right? It launches with 10 zones and Kalimdor won't be on the

02:39:09.240 --> 02:39:14.480
world map. Yeah, no Kalimdor in Warcraft, which is actually a completely

02:39:14.480 --> 02:39:17.760
understandable thing if you know the history of the real-time strategy games.

02:39:17.760 --> 02:39:21.320
Now it would mean initially...

02:39:22.720 --> 02:39:28.240
So it's before they took the boat over?

02:39:28.240 --> 02:39:33.240
Callumdor will not be in play. What is this paste off of?

02:39:35.240 --> 02:39:40.240
Is cool as that might be? Like, I want Callumdor. What?

02:39:41.240 --> 02:39:46.240
The works fled there? Right. They took the boats over.

02:39:48.240 --> 02:39:52.240
I'm trying to think if I would even like that. No, Callumdor's got to be there.

02:39:52.240 --> 02:39:57.240
That Callumdor, right? I'm trying to, like, stretch my mind a little bit here, but...

02:39:57.240 --> 02:39:59.240
But…

02:39:59.240 --> 02:40:01.240
Old map.

02:40:01.240 --> 02:40:03.200
Yeah, no calendar.

02:40:03.200 --> 02:40:04.600
In Warcraft.

02:40:04.600 --> 02:40:08.600
Which is actually a completely understandable thing if you know the history of the real-time

02:40:08.600 --> 02:40:09.600
strategy games.

02:40:09.600 --> 02:40:14.360
Now, it would mean initially us imagining a Warcraft game without Night Elves, without

02:40:14.360 --> 02:40:15.360
Toren.

02:40:15.360 --> 02:40:16.360
That seems suspicious.

02:40:16.360 --> 02:40:20.400
But then the leaks really did just start to come in fast and loose.

02:40:20.400 --> 02:40:23.840
Guild housing came up, Guild warships came up.

02:40:23.840 --> 02:40:24.840
You know what?

02:40:24.840 --> 02:40:30.280
warships does not sound insane. Think about Warcraft 2, where there is a whole bunch of

02:40:30.280 --> 02:40:35.200
naval combat, and Blizzard pulling that kind of thing off would not be surprising to me.

02:40:35.200 --> 02:40:39.200
Look at, say, all of the locomotion stuff they had to build for skyriding, look at the

02:40:39.200 --> 02:40:43.760
undermined driving system, and at player housing. They can clearly cook up new things

02:40:43.760 --> 02:40:46.120
that involve moving around in the world.

02:40:46.120 --> 02:40:50.040
But here's the kicker. And it sure is a kicker. It apparently will have a third

02:40:50.040 --> 02:40:56.600
faction. And that is where we need to bring up another MMO. One conveniently involved in Camelot.

02:40:56.600 --> 02:41:01.720
It's called Dark Age of Camelot. Jeff Kaplan and other early developers said that it was an

02:41:01.720 --> 02:41:06.840
inspiration for World of Warcraft, mainly because it defined the faction system. But where

02:41:06.840 --> 02:41:12.920
WoW has the Horde and the Alliance, Dark Age of Camelot has three factions. So the three faction

02:41:12.920 --> 02:41:27.880
play bro like I'm all for like likes like if we have something to talk about to have a reason to

02:41:27.880 --> 02:41:32.920
talk about it we can talk about it but if it's just straight up opposed with zero anything and

02:41:32.920 --> 02:41:37.560
it's just like three factions no Calum though it's just like what are we doing

02:41:37.560 --> 02:41:42.800
Oh my goodness gracious

02:41:45.320 --> 02:41:50.480
Okay, so let's pretend for a second there's no Kalim Thor it's before we took the boats over

02:41:51.720 --> 02:41:56.120
Before Medivh was like yo go check this out to Thrall

02:41:57.680 --> 02:41:59.680
There's a third faction I

02:42:00.360 --> 02:42:01.960
mean

02:42:01.960 --> 02:42:03.960
That's got to be

02:42:04.080 --> 02:42:06.080
Probably not great

02:42:06.080 --> 02:42:08.960
It was certainly not as mad as it sounds.

02:42:08.960 --> 02:42:13.480
But still, at this point, it's hard to tell what's real, what's feasible, and what's

02:42:13.480 --> 02:42:15.320
just a wish list.

02:42:15.320 --> 02:42:21.960
But if we strip away all the wild stuff, there is still a very solid core left, right?

02:42:21.960 --> 02:42:26.400
It would be a classic plus experience with the option for more modern graphics.

02:42:26.400 --> 02:42:28.440
Not an option I would take personally.

02:42:28.440 --> 02:42:29.440
And perhaps in a...

02:42:29.440 --> 02:42:30.440
Wait, hold on.

02:42:30.440 --> 02:42:31.440
We...

02:42:31.440 --> 02:42:32.440
Wait, hold on.

02:42:32.440 --> 02:42:33.440
Which one would you take?

02:42:33.440 --> 02:42:35.880
Still a very solid core left, right?

02:42:35.880 --> 02:42:40.320
It would be a classic plus experience with the option for more modern graphics.

02:42:40.320 --> 02:42:42.160
Not an option I would take personally.

02:42:42.160 --> 02:42:47.880
Wow, Belialar would go with the OG graphics, but he's more of a retail guy.

02:42:47.880 --> 02:42:51.360
Ah, okay, yeah, I'm just saying, yeah.

02:42:51.360 --> 02:42:54.960
And perhaps an entire new timeline to launch content from.

02:42:54.960 --> 02:42:58.840
That does sound like the kind of flex that Blizzard would have been able to pull off

02:42:58.840 --> 02:43:02.960
back in their glory days, when they would look at expectations and somehow manage to

02:43:02.960 --> 02:43:04.560
blow them out of the water.

02:43:04.560 --> 02:43:09.120
Sounds like a dream come true to me. It sounds honestly more interesting than retail to me

02:43:09.120 --> 02:43:12.600
And it sounds like a game. I would rather put my time into but whoa

02:43:13.120 --> 02:43:18.120
Whoa, wait, hold on guys. Bellylar is definitely a more modern like retail guy, right?

02:43:18.120 --> 02:43:23.000
He just said he played with the OG graphics and it's more interesting than retail to him

02:43:23.880 --> 02:43:26.960
Whoa, I wasn't expecting Bellylar to say that

02:43:28.520 --> 02:43:32.480
He's converted to a classic Andy recently. Oh, is it has he? Oh

02:43:32.480 --> 02:43:39.480
Oh, I actually didn't know that. I thought he was definitely way more of a retail guy than

02:43:39.480 --> 02:43:46.360
Classic Guy. He's more of a lore guy in general. Oh, so he's nerding out over the old lore from

02:43:46.360 --> 02:43:52.080
like the potential that it could be like Warcraft II, Warcraft III, and the story has him more

02:43:52.080 --> 02:43:57.920
excited than, oh, interesting. Okay.

02:43:57.920 --> 02:44:02.960
of Classic Plus, if the combat leveling and exploration are all fundamentally what we know,

02:44:02.960 --> 02:44:09.760
then, yeah, the only thing to figure out is when we'll be playing. So let's dig in to these leaked

02:44:09.760 --> 02:44:14.480
timelines. Now, this might ring true for you, teaching gamers months of theory before they

02:44:14.480 --> 02:44:19.200
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Hi.

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Alrighty, we got two unique timelines to consider, just before the third war and during the first

02:45:51.640 --> 02:45:52.640
war.

02:45:52.640 --> 02:45:56.120
Both of these are huge settings, but I'll start us off with the third war because I

02:45:56.120 --> 02:46:00.800
think it is the more exciting one to many people and it does leave a lot of room for

02:46:00.800 --> 02:46:02.560
future content.

02:46:02.560 --> 02:46:06.840
And when I say future content, I'm talking about a fresh Azeroth between wars with

02:46:06.840 --> 02:46:10.600
later content taking us through Warcraft 3 itself.

02:46:10.600 --> 02:46:16.500
So with that said, let's take a look at the state of Azeroth in this time period.

02:46:16.500 --> 02:46:21.620
The old horde has been defeated, and most of the orcs are languishing in alliance internment

02:46:21.620 --> 02:46:22.620
camps.

02:46:22.620 --> 02:46:26.920
A young orc named Thrall knows the horrors his people committed.

02:46:26.920 --> 02:46:31.220
He has no memory of Draenor or of shamanism, but he's convinced that the orcs once had

02:46:31.220 --> 02:46:34.360
an honorable soul, and he wants to find that soul.

02:46:34.360 --> 02:46:39.360
So he escapes the camp he grew up in, and flees to the Altaric Mountains to find

02:46:39.360 --> 02:46:46.720
the rest of the Frostwolf clan. Their leader, Dracthar, teaches Thrall shamanism. Later,

02:46:46.720 --> 02:46:53.000
a mysterious orc arrives at the Frostwolf camp and reveals himself as Doomhammer, Ugrim Doomhammer,

02:46:53.000 --> 02:46:58.360
the old warchief of the Horde. During a raid to free more orcs from an internment camp,

02:46:58.360 --> 02:47:03.860
Doomhammer takes a mortal wound. He gives Thrall his armor and his weapon, the Doomhammer,

02:47:03.860 --> 02:47:08.840
and names Thrall warchief of the new Horde. That is the very beginning of the Horde

02:47:08.840 --> 02:47:14.520
than we know in World of Warcraft. So if you're looking for an orcish capital in this timeline,

02:47:14.520 --> 02:47:20.600
it will actually be in the Altaric Mountains. Remember, this is before we all journey over

02:47:20.600 --> 02:47:27.960
to Kalimdor. Now, doing the rest of the horde is hard, if not impossible, in a world where we are

02:47:27.960 --> 02:47:33.000
initially in the Eastern Kingdoms. Here's why. Thrall only found the Darkspear trolls because

02:47:33.000 --> 02:47:36.840
of his journey to Kalimdor, and when he arrived in Kalimdor, he ended up getting near to

02:47:36.840 --> 02:47:41.120
Oh wow, these are the updated graphics for Warcraft 3, huh?

02:47:41.120 --> 02:47:44.600
They're actually better than I thought they would be, because I played with the OG graphics,

02:47:44.600 --> 02:47:46.360
but these actually looked east.

02:47:46.360 --> 02:47:51.560
There he found the Torren who were getting themselves wiped out by the Centaur.

02:47:51.560 --> 02:47:56.120
That would be pretty challenging to fit into this game, because Calvary hasn't been found

02:47:56.120 --> 02:47:57.120
yet.

02:47:57.120 --> 02:48:00.600
Then though, there's the Forsaken, and they are obviously even harder.

02:48:00.600 --> 02:48:06.200
Yes, their capital today is in the Eastern Kingdoms, but they did not exist.

02:48:06.200 --> 02:48:13.120
They weren't a thing before the Frostmourne corrupted Arthas. Well, oh did I said that a little too soon? What is that?

02:48:14.600 --> 02:48:16.600
Arthas bro

02:48:18.520 --> 02:48:22.600
They could do it as like some some like like like what's it called?

02:48:22.600 --> 02:48:29.000
I don't know like makeup on or something that's I'm like like shiny forehead thing before goodness gracious arthas well

02:48:29.680 --> 02:48:32.080
Did his whole campaign in Warcraft 3?

02:48:32.080 --> 02:48:38.440
She's always forsaken only become a thing after the third war. I mean come on, bro

02:48:38.440 --> 02:48:42.880
Why is he so like like it looks like like pretty anime character or something like what?

02:48:43.440 --> 02:48:45.040
What I

02:48:45.040 --> 02:48:47.440
Was just saying it looked kind of nice

02:48:47.640 --> 02:48:53.160
Dang it man now in a way you could solve all this stuff with the bronze dragon flight think about it

02:48:53.320 --> 02:48:56.320
Legion remakes was actually a canon event and wow

02:48:56.320 --> 02:49:01.480
Now, basically it was the bronze and the infinites re-running the Legion campaign to basically

02:49:01.480 --> 02:49:03.080
see if we could do it better.

02:49:03.080 --> 02:49:07.500
But I think patching in holes like that using the bronze would drain the energy out of a

02:49:07.500 --> 02:49:10.800
fresh adventure in a new but familiar world.

02:49:10.800 --> 02:49:14.740
So it's a bit of a sticky problem, but if I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't really

02:49:14.740 --> 02:49:15.840
mind that much.

02:49:15.840 --> 02:49:20.640
There is other stuff you could do for Horde races, and frankly, a classic plus that

02:49:20.640 --> 02:49:25.360
is able to effectively follow the campaigns of Warcraft 3.

02:49:25.360 --> 02:49:28.900
Just sounds like pretty much the coolest thing ever.

02:49:29.980 --> 02:49:31.100
Kind of does, sounds pretty lit.

02:49:31.100 --> 02:49:32.240
Okay, The Alliance.

02:49:32.240 --> 02:49:34.480
Whenever you think of The Alliance in-game right now,

02:49:34.480 --> 02:49:36.400
it's actually different to what was going on

02:49:36.400 --> 02:49:38.480
at this point in time.

02:49:38.480 --> 02:49:41.780
So like, I've always pictured for Classic Plus,

02:49:41.780 --> 02:49:46.780
it's just a continuation of where Classic Wow ends,

02:49:46.780 --> 02:49:53.260
Which does that automatically mean alternate timeline? Maybe not necessarily

02:49:54.300 --> 02:50:00.200
Would you guys rather have a continuation after naps? It's like okay now what or would you rather have it just?

02:50:00.200 --> 02:50:07.240
Oh gee setting Warcraft 2 3 I haven't really spent too much time thinking about this, but like oh gee could be cool, too

02:50:08.720 --> 02:50:10.720
Why not both?

02:50:10.720 --> 02:50:16.720
OG setting sounds cool. Continuation. OG, OG, new. Either one.

02:50:17.720 --> 02:50:20.720
Like, it could be a cool idea to do that, yeah.

02:50:23.720 --> 02:50:27.720
OG is a different game. That wouldn't be Classic Plus. That's kind of true.

02:50:27.720 --> 02:50:32.720
It's a cool idea though. I have to say that. It is a cool concept.

02:50:32.720 --> 02:50:36.720
You see, the events of Warcraft 1 were all about a thing called the First War.

02:50:36.720 --> 02:50:41.840
War. That's located basically at the south of Eastern Kingdoms. It's Stormwind just getting

02:50:41.840 --> 02:50:47.760
themselves completely steamrolled. Warcraft II then takes place way up north. It takes

02:50:47.760 --> 02:50:53.040
place in Lordaeron. Now the alliance of Warcraft II, the alliance of the Second War, by the

02:50:53.040 --> 02:50:58.960
time of Warcraft III had basically fractured because of infighting selfishness and greed,

02:50:58.960 --> 02:51:04.280
but it was still quite powerful. So if Lordaeron was to feature and we were to have that

02:51:04.280 --> 02:51:10.200
whole region of Eastern Kingdoms fully realized it would be quite cool, because it would give

02:51:10.200 --> 02:51:14.520
us finally the chance to see all seven kingdoms of Lordaeron like never before.

02:51:14.520 --> 02:51:16.840
So here's the state of play in those kingdoms.

02:51:16.840 --> 02:51:20.520
Gilneas, by this point in time, had not built the wall.

02:51:20.520 --> 02:51:26.560
Dalaran hadn't yet pissed off into the sky, and Lordaeron, the central kingdom, is basically

02:51:26.560 --> 02:51:32.260
seeing itself in a bit of a golden age under Tarenas Menethil, who of course has a son

02:51:32.260 --> 02:51:36.500
called Arthas who was set up to inherit- I mean that would be pretty cool.

02:51:36.500 --> 02:51:40.020
Then there's Stromgarde which is honestly a bit of a backwater

02:51:40.020 --> 02:51:43.460
and there's the kingdom of Altarec which was destroyed in the second.

02:51:43.460 --> 02:51:45.940
Dude I just thought of Gbay's most recent video.

02:51:45.940 --> 02:51:49.380
Guys we need to get Gbay to go into Lordaeron.

02:51:50.100 --> 02:51:55.780
Like we need to get him or like we need to get him to to turn the music up and hear

02:51:56.660 --> 02:52:01.140
like the the bells and see the flowers on the ground we need him to get there man

02:52:01.140 --> 02:52:07.700
does he he would love that so much war but with no scourge around to wipe out all the humans

02:52:07.700 --> 02:52:13.540
there is a bit of a bandit kingdom that still operates in and controls those mountains then

02:52:13.540 --> 02:52:19.060
we've got cultur ass which might be a bit hard to fit in at first but if this is to be the base

02:52:19.060 --> 02:52:23.700
for years and years of content set within this timeline then the sixth kingdom of order on

02:52:23.700 --> 02:52:29.220
cultur ass would of course feature eventually especially if you believe that leak about

02:52:29.220 --> 02:52:32.340
warships because Kul'Thuras is all about warships.

02:52:32.340 --> 02:52:37.060
Okay, our final kingdom is Stormwind. Now, Stormwind did not feature in the Third

02:52:37.060 --> 02:52:41.540
War at all because it was still rebuilding. They were utterly screwed.

02:52:41.540 --> 02:52:44.660
But even if the human starting zone and the main stories are in Lordaeron,

02:52:44.660 --> 02:52:49.300
I've no doubt we will see the jewel of the modern alliance eventually.

02:52:49.300 --> 02:52:52.500
Then we got the Dwarves. And there's not much to say about the Dwarves. They,

02:52:52.500 --> 02:52:57.300
at this point in time, are still split into three clans and they control Casmodan.

02:52:57.300 --> 02:53:02.900
The gnomes, on the other hand, well, we might finally get to see what Nomergon looked like

02:53:02.900 --> 02:53:08.820
before it was gassed. Not a revamped Nomergon like the actual original one. Now that only

02:53:08.820 --> 02:53:13.780
leaves us with the Night Elves who are a hard... I should know this, but at what point in the

02:53:13.780 --> 02:53:19.620
Warcraft history were the orcs hiding out in Blackrock Mountain?

02:53:27.300 --> 02:53:29.300
After the third war from

02:53:29.880 --> 02:53:33.300
That was after a third war wasn't it after the second?

02:53:33.700 --> 02:53:36.500
Why would I think what I didn't think it was after the third?

02:53:39.620 --> 02:53:44.700
Second war some were captured in some head because like that could be kind of sick too

02:53:47.260 --> 02:53:52.700
That could be kind of sick too right like you just have the orcs in Black Rock Mountain that would go hard

02:53:52.700 --> 02:53:57.900
I've got a lot of different answers. I've seen a bunch of people saying first, a bunch

02:53:57.900 --> 02:54:01.580
of people saying second, and a bunch of people saying third. Nice.

02:54:01.580 --> 02:54:06.460
Harder fit, like, let's say, the Trolls and the Toren. Still, an outpost in Galax isn't

02:54:06.460 --> 02:54:10.740
completely beyond the lore for them. Now, with all that said, it does look like the

02:54:10.740 --> 02:54:15.820
perfect jumping off point for future content. We basically start with the Alliance fracturing,

02:54:15.820 --> 02:54:20.960
a new horde forming, and the Scourge getting going. Maybe then, over months and years,

02:54:20.960 --> 02:54:25.600
We would see those stories unfold until Lordaeron is a wasteland and the orcs have settled in

02:54:25.600 --> 02:54:26.600
Durotar.

02:54:26.600 --> 02:54:29.480
The opportunity here is undeniable.

02:54:29.480 --> 02:54:31.880
So that's the third war stuff.

02:54:31.880 --> 02:54:34.560
Let's, though, do the first war.

02:54:34.560 --> 02:54:39.360
Because as much as so much of it is really cool, it is a lot easier to deny.

02:54:39.360 --> 02:54:46.480
Okay, the first war is the story of Warcraft I. Warcraft I was titled Warcraft Orcs

02:54:46.480 --> 02:54:49.880
versus Humans, and that is exactly what it was.

02:54:49.880 --> 02:54:55.280
had the Kingdom of Azeroth, which we now just call Stormwind, which is this sort of backwater

02:54:55.280 --> 02:55:00.040
farming nation that gets itself completely invaded by green monsters pouring through

02:55:00.040 --> 02:55:04.920
a portal. At the time it didn't really have a lot of lore, but by the time Warcraft 2

02:55:04.920 --> 02:55:10.000
rolled around, Christmatsen got absolutely to town on the game's manual and some of

02:55:10.000 --> 02:55:14.200
the in-game screens, which furnished it with a hell of a lot more story. Of course

02:55:14.200 --> 02:55:17.880
by now we all know who those orcs were, we know where they came from, but back

02:55:17.880 --> 02:55:23.800
Back then they were basically just red-eyed, bloodthirsty, crazy bastards.

02:55:23.800 --> 02:55:29.480
Now canonically in Warcraft 1, the Orcs won the war, burnt down Stormwind, and then regrouped

02:55:29.480 --> 02:55:32.200
and marched north to invade Lordaeron.

02:55:32.200 --> 02:55:35.160
And it's fair to say there is huge story potential here.

02:55:35.160 --> 02:55:39.160
You've got the likes of Gul'dan and his Shadow Council working in the background.

02:55:39.160 --> 02:55:43.800
You have Anduin Lothar and his knights, you have Grona, Medivh, Khadgar, all

02:55:43.800 --> 02:55:48.880
these huge characters, and in this setting we would see them at their prime. But there

02:55:48.880 --> 02:55:53.880
are reasons why I think the first war leaks are a bit harder. Most of the leaks point to

02:55:53.880 --> 02:55:59.480
Dalaran still being on the ground and being central to Camelot. It's hard to believe

02:55:59.480 --> 02:56:04.240
that the real action of the game would be all the way down south, but the Dalaran,

02:56:04.240 --> 02:56:08.760
all the way up north, would feature as a core place. That would be, unless, say,

02:56:08.760 --> 02:56:13.360
we start in the north and perhaps the end game is a war against the orcs in the south.

02:56:13.360 --> 02:56:18.560
But even then there are problems, like every orc being a rat-eye bloodthirster.

02:56:18.560 --> 02:56:24.160
It still is possible to make it work, but it seems to me that the leakers maybe don't have

02:56:24.160 --> 02:56:27.360
a full grasp of the lore from this period.

02:56:27.360 --> 02:56:31.920
They maybe saw Dalaran on the ground and decided this means it must be right back.

02:56:31.920 --> 02:56:35.040
Come on, they don't even know the entire lore.

02:56:35.040 --> 02:56:40.160
Like, don't even try to speculate if you don't have a full grasp guys, because

02:56:40.160 --> 02:56:41.160
it's embarrassing.

02:56:41.160 --> 02:56:47.320
Like, if you guys are missing bits and pieces, please sit to the side and let the real experts have the conversations.

02:56:48.040 --> 02:56:49.720
Don't know why this even needs to be said.

02:56:49.960 --> 02:56:55.000
During the First War, even though, I would say, an around the Third War does make a lot more sense.

02:56:55.320 --> 02:57:03.160
By being said, it is possible that this whole Camelot project is meant to take us through the first three games.

02:57:03.400 --> 02:57:06.440
That would be the coolest thing ever, but it is just speculation.

02:57:06.760 --> 02:57:10.440
Though if we're speculating, I do have one more option to offer.

02:57:10.440 --> 02:57:12.980
They will warn you, it's a bit crazy.

02:57:13.780 --> 02:57:16.340
Wait, that actually would be kind of sick.

02:57:18.660 --> 02:57:22.080
You have a world of Warcraft that starts with Warcraft 1

02:57:22.080 --> 02:57:24.320
and it kind of takes you through

02:57:24.320 --> 02:57:26.480
and then you, you know, let's call it class,

02:57:26.480 --> 02:57:28.120
let's call it Camelot or Class of Plus, whatever.

02:57:28.120 --> 02:57:30.880
And then it goes to Warcraft 2

02:57:30.880 --> 02:57:33.000
and it goes through that kind of whole series of events.

02:57:33.000 --> 02:57:34.600
Warcraft 3 goes through that

02:57:34.600 --> 02:57:36.120
and then you get to like present a while

02:57:36.120 --> 02:57:37.280
and maybe even do that stuff.

02:57:37.280 --> 02:57:38.680
And then it kind of continues.

02:57:38.680 --> 02:57:41.880
I mean, that would be a lot of content, be a lot of content.

02:57:41.880 --> 02:57:43.120
That actually could be kind of sick.

02:57:44.800 --> 02:57:48.760
Say, for the sake of argument, the leakers have got the timeline thing wrong,

02:57:48.760 --> 02:57:52.280
and this is actually something driven fully by the bronze dragonflight.

02:57:52.440 --> 02:57:56.480
So it's effectively revisiting the past rather than a different timeline that we play through.

02:57:57.000 --> 02:58:01.040
I could see a classic plus where the world is mostly as we know it

02:58:01.040 --> 02:58:03.560
and they stitch on a few zones as is expected.

02:58:03.760 --> 02:58:07.400
Maybe they just take all of those like little gaps of land

02:58:07.400 --> 02:58:12.480
between all the different zones in like classic warcraft and they beef them out and make them

02:58:12.480 --> 02:58:17.840
full places. That could totally be done. And that would certainly resemble a classic plus

02:58:17.840 --> 02:58:23.000
because it would presumably be built off the bones of classic as we now understand it.

02:58:23.000 --> 02:58:27.880
But what then what would you do then? Well, perhaps instead of going forward, maybe

02:58:27.880 --> 02:58:32.560
you could go back. Now I bring this up for a very specific reason. A while ago,

02:58:32.560 --> 02:58:35.920
I believe it was an entry of the Azucosis, but they basically said that they kind

02:58:35.920 --> 02:58:41.040
box themselves in, with the idea that every expansion had to go to a new place.

02:58:41.040 --> 02:58:47.000
That basically made a bunch of aspects of the world of Warcraft bit just feel harder

02:58:47.000 --> 02:58:48.000
to execute.

02:58:48.000 --> 02:58:52.200
Now, if it's to be Classic Plus, then presumably it won't be Classic Plus and also there's

02:58:52.200 --> 02:58:54.480
the Dark Portal go have fun in Outland.

02:58:54.480 --> 02:58:59.360
That wouldn't really make much sense unless, say, it was covering the Outland campaign

02:58:59.360 --> 02:59:04.520
that is, of course, part of Warcraft 2, Beyond the Dark Portal, and Warcraft 3.

02:59:04.520 --> 02:59:09.340
But ultimately my point here is that you get to Anchorage and then we all know what happens

02:59:09.340 --> 02:59:10.340
next.

02:59:10.340 --> 02:59:15.060
It's WoW's first expansion and for a classic plus they obviously wouldn't want to do something

02:59:15.060 --> 02:59:16.720
that feels like that.

02:59:16.720 --> 02:59:21.640
So you can go super far forward, you can explore the state of the world at that point in time

02:59:21.640 --> 02:59:22.640
in great depth.

02:59:22.640 --> 02:59:27.780
But what you could actually do is go back, you could go somehow back to the third

02:59:27.780 --> 02:59:32.920
war and maybe see Arthas as a noble paladin before we follow his trail.

02:59:32.920 --> 02:59:36.920
Dragonflight could be involved. We could go back to the First War for a brutal fight again.

02:59:36.920 --> 02:59:40.920
I personally don't like this idea as much as the other ones.

02:59:40.920 --> 02:59:47.920
I don't really like the whole like, oh let me go back in time and see what happened as much as like actually just doing it.

02:59:49.920 --> 02:59:52.920
Yeah, not a fan of this one.

02:59:52.920 --> 02:59:57.920
Hence the Horde. We could go back to the Black Empire and fight the old gods at the height of their power,

02:59:57.920 --> 03:00:04.400
power, but where they feel more classic-y. And there is, of course, one other option.

03:00:04.400 --> 03:00:10.100
The Empire of Arathor, which does fit the name Camelot rather nicely. Basically, we would

03:00:10.100 --> 03:00:14.880
go back to humanity's first empire, fight the Amani and ally with the High Elves. But

03:00:14.880 --> 03:00:20.240
most importantly, we meet figures like Meraldaur, the first human to wield the light. And

03:00:20.240 --> 03:00:24.200
she did more than introduce the light. You see, after a vision from the Naro, she

03:00:24.200 --> 03:00:29.080
letter followers all the way across the world to found the Arathi Empire, which is by the

03:00:29.080 --> 03:00:33.280
way now canon and that's all stuff that we get from World of Warcraft the War Within.

03:00:33.280 --> 03:00:36.880
That basically means that there is indeed a whole empire of half elves on the other

03:00:36.880 --> 03:00:41.440
side of Azeroth. We've not heard much of them since the War Within and I guess this

03:00:41.440 --> 03:00:46.040
would be a perfect chance to properly build something big like that into the modern

03:00:46.040 --> 03:00:50.240
lore. Now certainly that one is a stretch and if I was making a call on this

03:00:50.240 --> 03:00:55.240
project, I would actually veto it. Because when people say they want Classic Plus, it

03:00:55.240 --> 03:01:03.760
means they want Classic Plus. That means Warcraft 1, 2, 3, World of Warcraft. And maybe not

03:01:03.760 --> 03:01:08.480
necessarily the expansions. Okay, so is any of this stuff true? Well, what I can say

03:01:08.480 --> 03:01:15.480
is this game does exist. The roadmap leaked over a year ago and then heroic.

03:01:15.480 --> 03:01:19.120
I still hope this isn't the actual roadmap. Goodness gracious.

03:01:19.120 --> 03:01:23.320
Epic Editions turned up in the game files, and now we've got separate leaks all lining

03:01:23.320 --> 03:01:28.800
up on the same thing. And from what I understand from the rumor mill, from the deep rumor

03:01:28.800 --> 03:01:36.200
mill, there is very credible, real stuff floating around there. The sort of thing that gets

03:01:36.200 --> 03:01:40.160
talked about in Whisper Networks. I've heard rumors of that. I haven't actually

03:01:40.160 --> 03:01:46.360
seen the core stuff myself, but I do actually believe that it is actually real. And I'm

03:01:46.360 --> 03:01:52.520
I'm fairly sure that some of the more recent leaks are basically stemming from-

03:01:52.520 --> 03:01:54.520
Wait, what was the-

03:01:54.920 --> 03:01:59.240
Wait, what's the claim here? That he's heard stuff, but he can't-

03:02:00.120 --> 03:02:03.560
There's nothing to share, but he- it's a whisper network?

03:02:04.920 --> 03:02:07.000
Wait, what- from what I've heard about the-

03:02:09.160 --> 03:02:10.440
What?

03:02:10.440 --> 03:02:12.440
From that core source.

03:02:12.440 --> 03:02:16.740
So, I do believe that that is real, I have not seen it.

03:02:16.740 --> 03:02:20.340
Of course though, what I have seen and what we've all seen is the stuff that lines up

03:02:20.340 --> 03:02:25.260
in public with Camelot appearing in the data mining and appearing in that leak of a road

03:02:25.260 --> 03:02:26.260
map.

03:02:26.260 --> 03:02:32.140
And I should also say that whenever we talked about this story, shortly after Jez Corden

03:02:32.140 --> 03:02:36.620
was talking about it for his writing in Windows Central, he is very well connected

03:02:36.620 --> 03:02:41.700
with Blizzard and what he said certainly did lend more credence to the idea that

03:02:41.700 --> 03:02:45.540
that slate document was indeed a real thing.

03:02:45.540 --> 03:02:49.580
So ultimately, Camelot is happening, I am happy to say that.

03:02:49.580 --> 03:02:54.900
I can't tell you when it is set, but if I was to place a bet, it would be before the

03:02:54.900 --> 03:02:59.380
Third War, where Dalaran is still on the ground, where Thrall is building his horde

03:02:59.380 --> 03:03:05.820
up in Altaric, and where Norderon is having its last few good years without knowing

03:03:05.820 --> 03:03:08.260
how bad it's all shortly going to go.

03:03:08.260 --> 03:03:11.300
That is ultimately the Azeroth that we fell in love with.

03:03:11.300 --> 03:03:17.420
And every Warcraft 3 story that we care about, still to this day, is present in that world

03:03:17.420 --> 03:03:18.420
and yet to come.

03:03:18.420 --> 03:03:23.520
And perhaps most importantly, it would be adapting work that people already love.

03:03:23.520 --> 03:03:25.160
Adaptions can go badly.

03:03:25.160 --> 03:03:26.160
You know what?

03:03:26.160 --> 03:03:31.160
I would trust them to adapt all those stories with respect a hell of a lot more than I would

03:03:31.160 --> 03:03:35.320
trust, say, the creation of New Lauren's story within World of Warcraft.

03:03:35.320 --> 03:03:38.560
That has at least been my experience of the Midnight expansion and it's why the

03:03:38.560 --> 03:03:44.040
The more these leaks come out, the more I can actually see myself switching my flavour

03:03:44.040 --> 03:03:46.720
of Warcraft to something called Camelot.

03:03:46.720 --> 03:03:49.320
With all that said, I'll see you after Blizzard has come.

03:03:49.320 --> 03:03:53.460
Then we will know what Blizzard have been building, but if you want to know directly

03:03:53.460 --> 03:03:57.840
from Blizzard some things they may be building that I actually think are for after the

03:03:57.840 --> 03:04:02.840
last Titan, well, a survey leaked out and you can learn all about it in the next

03:04:02.840 --> 03:04:03.840
video.

03:04:03.840 --> 03:04:08.840
All right, all right, wow, cool, that was a video.

03:04:09.980 --> 03:04:13.880
I will say this, I have not spent that much time thinking

03:04:13.880 --> 03:04:17.800
about this setting of, oh, what about Warcraft II,

03:04:17.800 --> 03:04:20.640
Warcraft III era, Warcraft I era?

03:04:20.640 --> 03:04:24.080
And I've gotta be honest, that idea is quite intriguing.

03:04:24.080 --> 03:04:25.060
Like that could be cool.

03:04:25.060 --> 03:04:28.720
I've spent most of my attention thinking about

03:04:28.720 --> 03:04:32.360
like, turtle wow, season of discovery,

03:04:32.360 --> 03:04:38.600
Ascension like these concepts of like you have wow as it is right like Max is still there

03:04:38.600 --> 03:04:42.680
Molten core is still there Kalimdor azeroth and then you add new content like you know

03:04:42.680 --> 03:04:49.960
I haven't really put my headspace into that I have to say it actually seems kind of like it could be

03:04:49.960 --> 03:04:59.400
kind of a cool idea though right um Bell you are kind of hinting that this sounds almost

03:04:59.400 --> 03:05:04.360
more interesting to him as a lore nerd and as more of a retail guy is quite fascinating as well.

03:05:06.360 --> 03:05:13.160
So, so yeah. What else is happening guys?

03:05:16.200 --> 03:05:18.840
What else is happening? What else is happening?

03:05:22.600 --> 03:05:26.520
Some stuff went down in Max last night. I have two insane Oscar clips. I'm down to watch.

03:05:26.520 --> 03:05:30.780
I just watched the Oscar clip and oh, no, I yeah, I want it. I don't know the saffron

03:05:30.780 --> 03:05:36.800
Yeah, I just I watched a saffron Oscar clip this one already. This one was sick. I didn't see the other one though

03:05:37.740 --> 03:05:40.560
You you can get these to get out with it. Yes

03:05:45.120 --> 03:05:47.120
It's really bad

03:05:50.160 --> 03:05:52.160
Yes, send on this

03:05:56.520 --> 03:05:58.520
Kicks. Lots of kicks.

03:05:58.520 --> 03:05:59.520
They have a West back here if you get a kill.

03:05:59.520 --> 03:06:00.520
Patrick?

03:06:00.520 --> 03:06:01.520
Kicks, Kicks, Kicks.

03:06:01.520 --> 03:06:02.520
A lot of kicks, a lot of kicks.

03:06:02.520 --> 03:06:03.520
Slide it out.

03:06:03.520 --> 03:06:04.520
Patrick, you're low.

03:06:04.520 --> 03:06:05.520
Stop, Patrick, it's everything.

03:06:05.520 --> 03:06:06.520
Patrick, you're low.

03:06:06.520 --> 03:06:07.520
That's your low.

03:06:07.520 --> 03:06:08.520
He's running.

03:06:08.520 --> 03:06:09.520
Tom, Aveda.

03:06:09.520 --> 03:06:10.520
He kicks out, kicks out.

03:06:10.520 --> 03:06:12.520
She says hi to the watch.

03:06:12.520 --> 03:06:14.520
She says hi to the watch.

03:06:14.520 --> 03:06:15.520
Longleys, are you close?

03:06:15.520 --> 03:06:16.520
Patrick?

03:06:16.520 --> 03:06:18.520
Stay, Patrick, stay, Patrick.

03:06:18.520 --> 03:06:19.520
Patrick, stay, Patrick, stay, Patrick.

03:06:19.520 --> 03:06:20.520
Oscar is such a shad.

03:06:20.520 --> 03:06:22.520
Oscar is such a shad.

03:06:22.520 --> 03:06:23.520
Stay, Patrick.

03:06:23.520 --> 03:06:28.380
Main take energy right here. This is what I wish I could be man look at this

03:06:36.840 --> 03:06:40.300
Oscar is a Chad bro. No one dies there

03:06:41.100 --> 03:06:45.840
What a beast that guy legit one HP. Yeah, I think his

03:06:46.220 --> 03:06:50.780
When he petrious Titans falls off or something swaps the floss goes to one. Yeah

03:06:50.780 --> 03:06:53.180
Yeah, minus 35 petries.

03:06:53.180 --> 03:06:55.580
Yeah, zero deaths there though is legendary.

03:06:59.420 --> 03:07:00.500
Crazy, I didn't see this clip.

03:07:00.500 --> 03:07:01.840
I saw the Saf one.

03:07:09.820 --> 03:07:11.460
Did I see this, Annie's big announcement?

03:07:11.460 --> 03:07:13.100
She said she was pregnant, right?

03:07:13.100 --> 03:07:15.060
I don't know if I actually saw the stream.

03:07:15.060 --> 03:07:16.140
All right.

03:07:16.140 --> 03:07:17.060
I don't know how to say it,

03:07:17.060 --> 03:07:19.020
so I'm just gonna say it

03:07:19.020 --> 03:07:24.020
and I'm just gonna, I'm, I'm pregnant.

03:07:26.660 --> 03:07:28.700
Yo, I actually haven't seen the clip.

03:07:28.700 --> 03:07:29.700
Grats to her.

03:07:31.420 --> 03:07:32.260
I heard about it.

03:07:32.260 --> 03:07:33.940
I haven't, I didn't see the clip.

03:07:33.940 --> 03:07:36.480
And does anyone know how long is she?

03:07:37.660 --> 03:07:39.020
I know that's awesome.

03:07:39.020 --> 03:07:41.100
I almost shed a little tear for a second there.

03:07:41.100 --> 03:07:42.100
That's exciting.

03:07:42.100 --> 03:07:43.780
Yo, captain, next to the prime.

03:07:43.780 --> 03:07:44.620
Yeah.

03:07:49.020 --> 03:07:53.460
And it's reaching a point where I can't really hide it anymore.

03:07:53.460 --> 03:07:54.580
Yeah, yeah.

03:07:55.140 --> 03:07:56.220
Good to say stuff.

03:07:56.220 --> 03:07:57.060
Yeah, cool.

03:07:57.060 --> 03:07:58.100
Well, massive grads.

03:07:58.100 --> 03:08:00.300
I wanted to let you guys know.

03:08:02.020 --> 03:08:02.580
Cool.

03:08:02.700 --> 03:08:03.620
Well, thanks for sharing.

03:08:03.620 --> 03:08:04.740
I did hear about this.

03:08:04.740 --> 03:08:06.380
This was like a few weeks back, I think.

03:08:08.420 --> 03:08:09.900
Massive, massive grads.

03:08:13.580 --> 03:08:14.420
Huge, huge, huge.

03:08:15.180 --> 03:08:16.660
Um, um, um, um.

03:08:16.660 --> 03:08:21.660
We've got, we've got Willie.

03:08:25.540 --> 03:08:26.580
We've got Willie.

03:08:28.940 --> 03:08:31.140
As fan finding out of gamescom was hilarious.

03:08:31.140 --> 03:08:32.440
Was there a clip of that?

03:08:33.940 --> 03:08:35.680
She got the achieve unlocked clap.

03:08:35.680 --> 03:08:36.740
Nice.

03:08:42.420 --> 03:08:44.100
Did I cry when I found out I was gonna be a father?

03:08:44.100 --> 03:08:46.420
Yes, yes.

03:08:46.420 --> 03:08:48.900
I almost shed a little tear watching that little clip too.

03:08:48.900 --> 03:08:50.620
It's, yeah, it's a big moment, man.

03:08:50.620 --> 03:08:53.940
It's a very big moment, very, very big.

03:08:58.940 --> 03:09:00.840
Okay, okay.

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I refreshed and the audio came back, welcome back.

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Being a father is a dream of mine, can't wait.

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It is phenomenal, man.

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Preach us a good video on Classic Plus.

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Yeah, we watched it yesterday.

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Being a dad definitely softens you in this way.

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Yeah, yeah, I've noticed that.

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You know, it's also harder like from being a parent is like watching movies where like

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or like stories or like video games where there's a like child or like a son or daughter

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and you're, you're watching it through the lens of like a, you know, your father and

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And it's like really emotional or like hard to watch or like hard to do like playing through

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Fallout 4.

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It's like way different when you're a dad versus not a dad or like all of these like

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father-son stories like Arthas and with his father in the betrayal is like that is way

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different to watch.

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All of these things are way different to watch when you're actually there right?

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Versus it hits different you know.

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actually have not played God of War. There was like another couple. Oh, Game of Throne, not Game of Thrones.

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House of the Dragon in multiple ways was like really weird, being a parent, very weird in a lot of ways.

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Yeah. Interstellar. So I actually haven't seen interstellar since becoming a father. I've seen interstellar,

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But that was like when it came out a long time ago, so I would need to rewatch it as a father

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Trying to think what else

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Probably like a bunch of them anyway, it's definitely way different

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Last of us I'm I'm I'm play last of us

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AWC Selfie Clip from Pica. Oh, oh, you found it? Let me watch this real quick.

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So this is like the AWC trailers I was talking about. What they used to do, which I don't

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think they did in this recent one, is put the team names on their back so you could

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tell which team they were from, which was really cool.

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This was in 2020, yeah.

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And this is Picaboo.

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This is the Cloud 19.

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He could have taken a selfie with the whole team and he's in his PJs.

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I thought that was so sick dude.

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So cool.

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Yeah, why didn't they do the flags on the back?

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I don't know if you guys agree, but like the new video and not having the flags on the

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back actually made it way less exciting because the flags you could tell what team they're

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from and you can like root for your guy, you know?

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That was sick.

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That's personal, yeah.

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This one was really good.

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Peek-a-boo would be in his pajamas, man. Unbelievable.

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This this this was a good one, bro

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Holy crap that's sick and they're all just kind of like sitting here. This is the trophy you get for winning

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They're all just sitting at like the foot of the trophy you have all their flags like cloud nine cold and guardians

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This is before

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All the sponsors pulled out of wow PvP

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I shout it to you every time.

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This was fun to watch, fun to watch, fun to watch.

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Oh gosh, I have too many tabs open.

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Okay, here it is, really.

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Yo, Kruthalis, thanks for the tier one.

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Why did the sponsors pull out?

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It turns out, believe it or not, that WoWPVP is actually not a profitable space for sponsorships,

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I guess.

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So a lot of the teams actually stopped sponsoring teams.

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It actually, like I joke about it, but I actually, it actually does hurt to say that.

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It actually sucks.

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It's like, WoWPVP is such a big part of my life.

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And I feel like, it sucks.

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It does suck.

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I love it so much.

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It's like sucks that it can't.

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Yeah, it is what it is, I guess, you know?

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Kind of all eSports went down.

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Yeah, in a sense, there was like an eSport bubble, right?

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Like, I actually didn't realize this

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except until I was in it,

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is that nearly every eSports organization

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was running at a loss

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and had to cut like,

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like this was like a few years back,

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had to cut like all the costs,

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like cut all of their streamers, cut all of their pro players.

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Like you've seen all of these teams

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just like drop all of their teams.

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And you're like, what the heck, man?

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I loved watching that.

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It turns out like pretty much every eSports org

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was losing money across the board, like all of them.

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I think that only one that was not losing money was like

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TSM, but they were not losing money

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because of another investment they had in an app

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that they created or helped create.

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like they made their money through that and that wasn't actually anything to do

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with like the actual org but like so it showed profitability but like the point

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is it wasn't profitable for like anyone. Oh thanks Ben. I was watching a YouTube

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video. It hasn't started yet. I'm doing stuff in here. It's important, it's

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important stuff. Shannon comes in she's like why is your screen black? What are

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you doing? So you just sitting there all day? Guys, I'm not sitting here all day. I'm doing

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important stuff in here, alright? Oh my gosh. Anyway, like I was saying, I actually didn't

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realize that until I was in it, but yeah, every eSports award was just losing money.

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So not even just wow, like across the board, that's why like, if you guys notice,

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they all, a lot of them just like don't exist anymore.

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Like a lot of teams just got cut

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it's because they were just bleeding out money

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all over the place.

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Overwatch, boom.

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How does that even make sense?

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It was all borrowed money.

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It was all borrowed time.

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Like it was all like VC, money, pumped in.

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Ooh, this is gonna be big.

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And then like a lot of people do watch

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but it wasn't like as profitable as people thought.

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So like way more money was being pumped into it

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than all the money dried up and it was like, wait, maybe not.

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So yeah, loans, exactly.

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Well, find out if you see money.

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Does your wife know how big you are

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the WoW stream, the WoW realm.

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I've told her once or twice that I'm a

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20 plus time rank one player,

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that I'm a gold high elo,

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awry main in League of Legends.

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Maybe once or twice.

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Well.

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All right.

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I'm gonna play this one guys

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and continue eating. Let's enjoy.

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Every game that runs long enough is bound to leave behind some major points during its development

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where it changes significantly going forwards.

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And oftentimes with games it's difficult to pinpoint exactly when those moments are.

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However, this isn't really the case with World of Warcraft as Blizzard have always worked on an expansion basis.

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And during every expansion they tend to push some new feature onto the game which is going to modify it significantly.

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And I was thinking what would be the largest feature which has been added in every single

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World of Warcraft expansion so far.

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All the way back from Vanilla to today in Midnight, some of these were very much successes right

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from the get go, others had to undergo a bit of development shall we say before they

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were in their best possible state.

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But with that said, these have to be some of the most defining moments of World of Warcraft's

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20 year history.

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Starting off with Vanilla is a bit of an odd thing because it is the very beginning

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they really didn't have anything else to go off of.

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These were a bunch of guys making a game which they thought sounded cool, and that really

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is all there was to it.

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But what had to have gotten back then was just the scope of how big this game was actually

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going to be.

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Over the middle of the launch late 2004 the team reportedly considered somewhere around

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500,000 subscribers a massive success, and they hit that amount and then just never

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stopped climbing.

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Within months there were millions of players who had stepped into Azeroth and were experiencing

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it first hand.

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of the MMO had ever come close to this level of success. The trouble was the development

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team had to scramble to match the game's own popularity. The launch was a wall of multiple

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hour long log-in queues, constant server crashes, brutal latency, and hardware that

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simply wasn't fit for purpose, and Blizzard were having to constantly adapt to see how

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they could meet this ever-growing demand. I don't think any moment-driven era encapsulates

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this better than the opening of the gates of Anchorage. It was a crazy ambitious idea.

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A server-wide war effort event where one singular player would rise above all others and be the

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person to really open the raid. On paper it was probably the coolest thing the game had

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ever attempted. In practice when rounds actually started opening the gates individually, it

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was a technical disaster. Her renders-like server crashes throughout days and nights,

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dying in getting fun from random graveyards on the other side of the world, it was in

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equal parts ambitious and crazy. I'm really thinking forwards to World of Warcraft so

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many years later Blizzard have never quite attempted something like this, on this scale

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that brings so many different people together. This is why I think it's the perfect moment

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to start off with for vanilla. It was really Blizzard realizing how big this game could

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potentially be, and how they needed to approach it in the future, if they were

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going to be meeting this massive demand. And then we move through the dark portal into the

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burning crusade of the first.

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Bro, I can only imagine if you're blizzard and you just see this happening. Like he said

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that your expectation is like here of a mass like this, this is a massive success like

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500,000 subs is a massive success. It's like, wow, we made it. We're the biggest

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MMO in the market and it just like goes to like here.

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I bet like you're just, you're going through the moon.

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Like you're just like over the moon excited.

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You're like, holy crap.

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And then it just like doubles again.

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And then it doubles again.

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And it's like, and then it's just like the eight mil.

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You're probably just like, what the heck?

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I think this is, we talked about this before,

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but this is probably why Blizzard completely dropped the

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ball on Dota, Dota two, I guess,

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because they were just in the midst of this.

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It was just complete chaos of like, holy crap,

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we were onto the biggest thing ever.

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And then like, TVC launches and then,

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and then the whole like League of Legends

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Dota thing started and like Blizzard basically

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could have like won that race too,

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but they focused on a while I guess.

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Where were we?

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Well, we were all stuck to the floor,

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but the burning crusade changed that

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with something that the game had never seen so far,

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Unless you were taking a flight path that was, flying, once you hit level 70 or as a druid

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at level 68, you could unlock flying, and finally take to the skies without just being

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on a flight path, an epic flying back then would say you back a huge 5000 gold, which

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was an unimaginable volume of gold back then, and flying absolutely changed how Blizzard

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had to design the world fundamentally forevermore, Outland zones were fractured

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chance of rock floating in the twisting nether and several endgame destinations tempest keep

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among them required you to have flying to reach them during the start. I don't know if I was a

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weirdo in TBC like OG TBC, but a lot of the time that I spent was just spent flying around farming

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gold. Like I did my gold farm back then was I would fly around and get adamentite ore and

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and I believe I coupled it with clouds or something,

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clouds and ore or something.

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And I would just fly around like all night,

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just chilling and farming gold.

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And so I ended up getting my Epic Mount,

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which was like pretty cool back then, like the fast one.

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I didn't get it right away.

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It took many months of farming that I got it.

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And I was like super stoked.

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And then I ended up getting a ton more gold

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and then loaning my friend gold.

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Yeah, no problem, no problem, Greg.

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I got you, bro.

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I remember I loaned him gold to get his,

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and then it took him the rest of the expansion

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to pay me back.

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I think like to this day, he was like,

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he's like, I'm never,

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it was like this brutal experience for him.

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He paid me back like 20 gold at a time

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over the course of like two years.

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Maybe he repaid me like mid-rath or something exactly.

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Anyway, I guess the point was like,

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such a big part of the game for me back then

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was literally logging in and making gold.

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I don't know, like, can any of you relate to that?

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And then in RAF or Pada, I did a bunch of like,

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inscription and like, jewel crafting and like, farming.

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No, wait, you guys weren't, yeah, maybe this was just me.

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Literally, I just logged in.

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I remember doing like, like land parties

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with all my friends that we would,

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we would all like, play WoW.

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And like, a lot of the times I would just run around

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and farm gold.

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I would just farm gold all day.

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I don't know, farming gold is not fun for 99% of people.

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It's not that it's fun, it's more like relaxing

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and you can see the money bar go up.

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It's like satisfying, it's kind of like playing RuneScape.

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It's like satisfying, it's not like fun.

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It's like you log in and you like,

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you're just seeing the gold go up

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and you're like, all right, I'm doing something.

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You know, you turn, yeah, you turn your brain off

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you're doing something, flying around, collecting ore, you know, number go up.

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Yeah, the RuneScapers will understand, yeah.

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That's a TBC you couldn't even summon in Neve Storm because Blizzard wanted you to go on

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by a flying mountain get there yourself.

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Verticality suddenly became a design tool, and from that point on every zone had to

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consider where players would be able to get to, when they can go through the air.

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Of course flying would like to be extended to old Azeroth during the cataclysm where Blizzard would massively revamp the world,

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and during worlds of Drain or Blizzard actually designed another expansion where they did not intend to put flying in the game.

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However players have become so accustomed to their convenience and coolness of flying that they ask for it back non-stop,

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and so Blizzard would eventually introduce the Pathfinder achievement, which could lead players back to their beloved mounts.

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You know, it's really fascinating because if you ask me what's my worst, my least favorite expansion,

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I'll say Warlords of Draenor like most of the time. Like I just really don't like it.

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But when you think of like some of the stuff that they were trying in Draenor, it was actually

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really ahead of their time. So this was like about 10 years ago or a little more. And they

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were trying the concept of how about no flying in our new expansion to get people back on the

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ground and playing how we used to. Another key selling point of Draenor was like, let's

03:26:36.440 --> 03:26:43.300
Actually take abilities away and get back to simpler rotations where people just have a few key abilities kind of how it was like in classic

03:26:43.360 --> 03:26:50.080
Like they actually had some really good ideas in Draenor ten years ahead of their time, but it was really um

03:26:51.440 --> 03:26:53.440
One I think the execution was quite poor

03:26:55.080 --> 03:26:59.400
Like they they took away like wrong abilities, I think from classes so that you didn't actually feel good

03:27:00.160 --> 03:27:04.680
But two I think it proves the point that we were talking about earlier with like flying

03:27:04.680 --> 03:27:10.600
It's not something that you can just like give to someone and then take it away because once you have it you always want it

03:27:10.600 --> 03:27:13.640
It's like giving a kid candy and then taking it away

03:27:14.800 --> 03:27:16.800
They're not gonna be happy, right?

03:27:17.480 --> 03:27:19.480
like uh, I

03:27:19.920 --> 03:27:23.680
Mean I have a little two-year-old so I got I know how that goes if you give him something

03:27:23.680 --> 03:27:26.320
You can't just like take it away right away. Look he's gonna start crying

03:27:26.880 --> 03:27:31.320
Right, you can't give a wow player a flying mountain to take it away. They're gonna cry in the forums

03:27:31.320 --> 03:27:35.740
But if you never had it in the first place the game does feel pretty darn nice

03:27:35.740 --> 03:27:39.260
But you can't give it and take it away, so it doesn't really work for that reason either

03:27:39.260 --> 03:27:41.900
But I have to say they were like ahead of their time and just didn't really work

03:27:43.440 --> 03:27:46.020
But when Blizzard put flying in the game in TBC

03:27:46.020 --> 03:27:49.140
It made the game a whole lot more complicated for them

03:27:49.260 --> 03:27:54.740
Next up is no friend with Rafa the Lich King and Rafa's remembered as the peak of World of Warcraft's popularity

03:27:55.180 --> 03:28:01.020
And the big reason for that is it's because when Blizzard made the game the easiest to play that it's ever been

03:28:01.320 --> 03:28:08.320
There are so many examples of what they did in patch 3.3 join the final patch they introduced the cross round dungeon finder.

03:28:08.320 --> 03:28:16.320
Before that I remember trying to get my daily's dungeon raffle a lich king sitting in Dauran and hoping that a tank popped up so I could scoop him up and go get the dungeon.

03:28:16.320 --> 03:28:23.320
Raffle also had dual talent specializations you could swap between different specs albeit it cost a thousand gold back then.

03:28:23.320 --> 03:28:38.320
There were airlands on top of that, Blizzard squished the amount of experience you needed to level up, classes got far more powerful, way more classes got interrupts or defensive cooldowns or offensive cooldowns or mobility, it was truly an absolutely massive time for change.

03:28:38.320 --> 03:28:50.320
Well I think if you played Wrath Classic looking back to it, then you may come to appreciate that Wrath of the Lich King was really quite a big turning point in Warcraft's history, especially when it came to convenience.

03:28:50.320 --> 03:28:58.320
It's no surprise that during Wrath of the Lich King the old school players started to call a newer crowd Wrath Babies. They haven't grown up with how difficult it was.

03:28:58.320 --> 03:29:03.320
Wrath Babies bro, they don't understand what we went through.

03:29:03.320 --> 03:29:09.320
Slow and grindy the game used to be, this new age world of Warcraft was something different.

03:29:09.320 --> 03:29:13.060
Sure it was popular, but it wasn't quite the same either.

03:29:13.060 --> 03:29:17.880
Onwards though we head through to the cataclysm and the whole entire old world was revamped.

03:29:17.880 --> 03:29:22.840
And Cater absolutely gets a rough reputation, however right towards the end of the expansion

03:29:22.840 --> 03:29:28.440
it introduced arguably one of the most impactful updates World of Warcraft has ever seen.

03:29:28.440 --> 03:29:33.980
In patch 4.3 that's alongside Dragon Soul, yet that disaster of a raid, Blizzard also

03:29:33.980 --> 03:29:38.760
introduced transmogrification, for the first time you could change the appearance of your

03:29:38.760 --> 03:29:43.100
weapons and armor whilst keeping the stats of whatever you were actually wearing.

03:29:43.100 --> 03:29:47.240
Prior to this the way your character looked was dedicated entirely by how effective the

03:29:47.240 --> 03:29:52.840
gear was in PvE or PvP, and by whatever put out the best numbers, and in doing so

03:29:52.840 --> 03:29:57.240
created a whole new reason to run old content and farm old gear.

03:29:57.240 --> 03:30:01.500
with transmog people are running molten core again to try and get their tier 1 or figuring

03:30:01.500 --> 03:30:04.980
out just how many old raids can I possibly solo.

03:30:04.980 --> 03:30:09.660
I think transmog for retail has definitely been one of the most successful updates ever

03:30:09.660 --> 03:30:13.780
and it's really something that stood the test of time.

03:30:13.780 --> 03:30:18.180
I know people like it and I know it's one of the most successful things in the game

03:30:18.180 --> 03:30:21.500
with the biggest, one of the biggest things in the game and one of the reasons people

03:30:21.500 --> 03:30:25.180
play the game but I still don't like it man.

03:30:25.180 --> 03:30:30.660
I like to see what people actually look like, I'm not a big transmog guy, no thank you.

03:30:30.660 --> 03:30:35.080
I, I know, I, I want to see what, what, what you're working with.

03:30:35.080 --> 03:30:39.900
If you want to naturally then put on your tier three in AFK in a city, go for it.

03:30:39.900 --> 03:30:42.700
But, ah, shh, just saying.

03:30:42.700 --> 03:30:46.780
And it's allowed tons of players to express different ways for their characters to lock.

03:30:46.780 --> 03:30:51.980
But if Cataclysm planted the cosmetic seed, Mr. Pandaria was where collection became

03:30:51.980 --> 03:30:54.820
a fully fleshed out part of the game.

03:30:54.820 --> 03:30:59.300
The groundwork was laid in the pre-expansion for map on patch 5.04.

03:30:59.300 --> 03:31:02.700
Wimbles and a pets mouse and achievements account wide.

03:31:02.700 --> 03:31:06.380
Everything you've been working to on your main was now accessible across so many different

03:31:06.380 --> 03:31:11.060
characters, and this made farming a multiple characters view or appealing as well.

03:31:11.060 --> 03:31:15.860
Pandaria then lay on top the pet battle system, a complete hand-based minigame with its

03:31:15.860 --> 03:31:19.940
own progressions, rarities and hundreds of creatures to catch and level.

03:31:19.940 --> 03:31:23.260
And there were so many open world treasures to find from things which were actually

03:31:23.260 --> 03:31:27.220
effective in combat to things which would change your appearance. And to add it all off

03:31:27.220 --> 03:31:32.460
at the end of Missa Pandaria was the Timeless Isle, the ultimate go and do stuff here when

03:31:32.460 --> 03:31:36.820
you've got nothing else to do place to go. And in future expansions Blizzard would very

03:31:36.820 --> 03:31:43.260
much replicate the Timeless Isle in zones such as Tanahm Jungle, Sarumar, Argus, and

03:31:43.260 --> 03:31:44.780
many more zones in the future.

03:31:44.780 --> 03:31:51.900
But none of them were as good as the Timeless Isle. Timeless Isle is like, so like,

03:31:51.900 --> 03:31:57.180
it's nostalgia talking this place was so fun so much little detail like walking on

03:31:57.180 --> 03:32:00.900
the ropes you could do that use that item that made you like hostile to all

03:32:00.900 --> 03:32:07.540
factions and PvP people bunch of stuff to collect rares world bosses like I

03:32:07.540 --> 03:32:11.780
remember after school or like I think this is college after maybe I was a

03:32:11.780 --> 03:32:15.180
senior in high school or freshman in college and I would just like hang out

03:32:15.180 --> 03:32:19.460
and like on this island is PvP all day like oh it was fun bro

03:32:19.460 --> 03:32:24.660
Future. Typically at Engen now a mod of Warcraft you'll find there's a zone with just loads

03:32:24.660 --> 03:32:29.540
of collection stuff, and I think the timeless aisle was the original one, but overall Mr

03:32:29.540 --> 03:32:34.260
Pandaria for me was really the rise of collection as a form of Engen content.

03:32:34.260 --> 03:32:39.220
And then after Mr Pandaria we went back in time to Warlord's of Draenor in a rather

03:32:39.220 --> 03:32:44.860
strange twist of fate following along Garrosh's journey to the past I suppose. Much like

03:32:44.860 --> 03:32:48.740
Cataclysm Warlord's of Draenor is one of those expansions that people do not

03:32:48.740 --> 03:32:54.820
remembered too fondly and with very good reason it was very very thin on content and Blizzard

03:32:54.820 --> 03:33:00.340
had to cancel so many cool ideas like the Shatraf raid, the Feralon zone which should have been

03:33:00.340 --> 03:33:06.820
the TPC equivalent of Nathastorm and many more things. Nevertheless War to Jano did bring in

03:33:06.820 --> 03:33:11.620
one big new feature to World of Warcraft one that stuck to this day and one that has been

03:33:11.620 --> 03:33:18.020
a source of so much content and that is Mythic Raiding. Now Mythic Raiding has actually

03:33:18.020 --> 03:33:21.940
brought in during the wall or to drain or prepatch and technically the first ever

03:33:21.940 --> 03:33:26.180
mythic raid was the siege of Orgrimmar during this subhandariah however it was

03:33:26.180 --> 03:33:30.500
during the ward prepatch so uncounting it as a ward piece of content blizzard

03:33:30.500 --> 03:33:34.060
had been going back and forth with how they wanted raiding to work for years

03:33:34.060 --> 03:33:39.060
at this point in time we had 40 or 20 player aides in vanilla 25 or 10 in

03:33:39.060 --> 03:33:44.320
TBC then in wrath we had 25 and 10 we had hard modes we had heroics we had

03:33:44.320 --> 03:33:48.720
staggered what kind of fluid had attained. They did basically everything possible in Rafferla

03:33:48.720 --> 03:33:54.560
Lichting, and then Cataclysm came along and stuck to 10 or 25 Heroic. Mr Pandari were built on that

03:33:54.560 --> 03:34:01.760
system also offering LFR, normal, Heroic, Flex, and Mythic. There was a ton of raiding to do

03:34:01.760 --> 03:34:06.640
during Seju Alchemar and honestly it was horribly confusing by the end of it. But this new

03:34:06.640 --> 03:34:11.680
Mythic mode was going to modernize and simplify raiding so now you only had LFR, normal,

03:34:11.680 --> 03:34:16.800
heroic and mythic. And mythic was where you went if you were the absolute best of the best and you

03:34:16.800 --> 03:34:21.440
really wanted to push yourself. One of the key things to know about mythic is that it was 20

03:34:21.440 --> 03:34:26.720
player only, so no longer did Blizzard have to bounce bosses for differing raid size groups between

03:34:26.720 --> 03:34:31.680
10 or 25, because when they had to do this on some old bosses, some of them would be much

03:34:31.680 --> 03:34:36.480
easier with 10 and some much easier with 25. For instance imagine you have a mechanic that

03:34:36.480 --> 03:34:40.240
gradually fills up the room with something on the floor you have to avoid. That's gonna

03:34:40.240 --> 03:34:44.160
gonna be easier to avoid with 10 players because you just have fewer players.

03:34:44.160 --> 03:34:48.680
And with Mythic Models it absolutely started to push the boundaries of how difficult they

03:34:48.680 --> 03:34:51.880
could make raiding content be in World of Warcraft.

03:34:51.880 --> 03:34:55.940
Many years later now it's still a huge deal with Eraserworld first being a massive event

03:34:55.940 --> 03:34:57.960
that thousands of people enjoy.

03:34:57.960 --> 03:35:02.540
And I think Mythic Mod was finally the raiding formula which gave the top 1% of the players

03:35:02.540 --> 03:35:06.960
something to aspire to that the game had really needed for a long time.

03:35:06.960 --> 03:35:12.480
Ward Adrenal was the far better received Legion expansion. After what felt like years of content

03:35:12.480 --> 03:35:18.800
drought in Ward, Legion was absolutely packed with content. You had your order whole quick.

03:35:18.800 --> 03:35:26.480
Legion was like pretty nice in the sense that like so mop was like peak PVP for a lot of

03:35:26.480 --> 03:35:29.600
people not for everyone. There was a lot of content creation, you know, you have

03:35:29.600 --> 03:35:35.280
soda pop and start a stream, wreck full. Like, you know, it was just like Mitch Jones,

03:35:35.280 --> 03:35:38.260
You know, like it was just crazy, it was fun, it was sick.

03:35:38.260 --> 03:35:42.680
And then Wad came out and it was just like pretty miserable,

03:35:42.680 --> 03:35:45.120
I would say for like most people,

03:35:45.120 --> 03:35:47.440
like all the content creators just kind of stopped.

03:35:47.440 --> 03:35:50.320
I think Wreckful stopped streaming and Wad

03:35:50.320 --> 03:35:51.640
and so did the other stuff.

03:35:51.640 --> 03:35:53.720
And like everyone was just like, okay,

03:35:53.720 --> 03:35:57.640
this just isn't that good, which sucked like a lot.

03:35:57.640 --> 03:35:59.400
And then Legion came out and like Legion

03:35:59.400 --> 03:36:02.560
was actually like a little better than Wad.

03:36:02.560 --> 03:36:03.960
It was like, it was kind of like this cool little

03:36:03.960 --> 03:36:07.360
Revival it's like oh nice the game actually isn't awful again soda came back

03:36:07.920 --> 03:36:10.880
I think Refl might have came back a bit Mitch came back a bit

03:36:11.920 --> 03:36:16.940
I think so do you even got rank one and lesion like it was like it was like good enough to actually want to play

03:36:17.160 --> 03:36:19.160
It's like whoa cool

03:36:19.920 --> 03:36:23.760
And then we had I mean we'll get to it then we had another

03:36:24.360 --> 03:36:29.000
Series of events, but it was kind of nice, you know to get the get the game back a little bit

03:36:29.000 --> 03:36:35.480
Yes, your artifact power farming, all your new artifact weapons to unlock the Soromar storyline,

03:36:35.480 --> 03:36:38.360
hidden artifact appearances and so much more.

03:36:38.360 --> 03:36:41.840
I think this is one of the reasons why Legion is so well remembered.

03:36:41.840 --> 03:36:45.800
People were so bored off the back of all of the drain or Legion just threw all this stuff

03:36:45.800 --> 03:36:48.720
at them to do, and people were so ready for it.

03:36:48.720 --> 03:36:52.520
One of the biggest new features that Legion would bring in would be Mythic Plus.

03:36:52.520 --> 03:36:56.440
And Mythic Plus had very much been an idea that had been gradually growing for

03:36:56.440 --> 03:36:58.680
Blizzard over several expansions.

03:36:58.680 --> 03:37:03.360
whilst raiding content had remained relevant through transmogrification, dungeons were kind

03:37:03.360 --> 03:37:07.280
of falling off kind of fast, people would do them to level up, they'd do them for the

03:37:07.280 --> 03:37:11.640
first week or two at Endgame, and then they'd be largely forgotten. Blizzard wanted to keep

03:37:11.640 --> 03:37:16.960
this content relevant. At first they'd experimented with doing this through heroic dungeon difficulty

03:37:16.960 --> 03:37:21.800
in TBC, Rath and Cataclysm, and then in Missa Pandaria and Water they would have

03:37:21.800 --> 03:37:26.000
challenge modes which would set your gear at a certain item level, and see how fast

03:37:26.000 --> 03:37:30.400
you could run the dungeon, however the rewards here were very much just cosmetic.

03:37:30.400 --> 03:37:36.000
Mythic Plus instead was going to add newer fixes onto dungeons in another scaling format.

03:37:36.000 --> 03:37:40.360
It wasn't just can we defeat the dungeon within the time limit that Blizzard has assigned,

03:37:40.360 --> 03:37:45.280
it was now how far can you push that dungeon, what affixes are available this week, what

03:37:45.280 --> 03:37:48.400
kind of loot comes from that dungeon and so on and so forth.

03:37:48.400 --> 03:37:52.400
Now Mythic Plus was very rough around the edges at the start of Legion, I think if

03:37:52.400 --> 03:37:57.400
If you took the average Mythic Plus Enjoy nowadays and put them back at the version we had in Legion, they would say,

03:37:57.400 --> 03:38:03.900
Yeah the modern version so much better than this. Blizzard had changed this system significantly since then.

03:38:03.900 --> 03:38:07.200
However it was Legion that laid the groundwork for this to happen.

03:38:07.200 --> 03:38:15.600
And these days Mythic Plus is even more popular than raiding content. It really has taken over as a cornerstone at the endgame of World of Warcraft.

03:38:15.600 --> 03:38:18.700
And because of that I think it absolutely deserves a mention.

03:38:18.700 --> 03:38:22.380
following a huge win that was legion we went into the battle of Razoroth.

03:38:22.380 --> 03:38:27.260
An expansion where things unfortunately did not continue so successfully for Blizzard.

03:38:27.260 --> 03:38:31.820
And unfortunately I think the next two expansions are gonna be too hard to lessons that Blizzard

03:38:31.820 --> 03:38:33.180
have had to learn.

03:38:33.180 --> 03:38:37.020
So I'm sure if you play back then or even if you haven't you may have heard the term

03:38:37.020 --> 03:38:39.180
borrowed power in Ward of Warcraft.

03:38:39.180 --> 03:38:42.620
The whole idea of this is based around the fact that during an expansion

03:38:42.620 --> 03:38:46.380
you gained tons of power and then at the start of the next expansion

03:38:46.380 --> 03:38:50.460
your character loses that power and sometimes it's replaced with something else.

03:38:50.460 --> 03:38:52.940
By the end of Legion, our characters were the most powerful.

03:38:52.940 --> 03:38:56.140
Um, this is like a, a slightly different conversation,

03:38:56.140 --> 03:39:00.060
but I was listening to the Ampy Savics podcast, some of the clips from it,

03:39:00.060 --> 03:39:04.860
and Ampy actually said something that I really agree with, um, to Savics.

03:39:04.860 --> 03:39:08.140
He said that the big reason he doesn't like world buffs,

03:39:08.140 --> 03:39:12.140
or at least the, he said that world buffs are very problematic,

03:39:12.140 --> 03:39:19.540
is because that it gives your character way too much borrowed power.

03:39:19.540 --> 03:39:25.740
So he gave like the example of like a warrior who has no world buffs versus a warrior with world buffs.

03:39:25.740 --> 03:39:31.340
He said that world buffs are like more valuable than like all your gear.

03:39:31.340 --> 03:39:34.440
Like world buffs are like stronger than your character itself.

03:39:34.440 --> 03:39:39.840
Like you're gaining more DPS through the world buffs than you are through like all of your armor.

03:39:39.840 --> 03:39:52.240
Like you could have a previous warrior with full world buffs doing more damage than like a warrior with like pretty solid gear, but no world buffs like that's the problem is that they're so darn good.

03:39:52.240 --> 03:39:54.200
So he's like, yeah, probably just like get rid of them.

03:39:54.200 --> 03:39:59.000
So it's it's just a very problematic thing to have that much power put into a buff.

03:39:59.720 --> 03:40:01.560
So I thought that was really well said by Anthony.

03:40:01.560 --> 03:40:07.920
Full they have ever been, in World of Warcraft and probably, will ever be, people were doing

03:40:07.920 --> 03:40:12.720
millions and millions of DPS, I'd be surprised if we see those numbers again you know.

03:40:12.720 --> 03:40:17.380
And a lot of that was centered around our artifact weapon and just how inflated gear had become.

03:40:17.380 --> 03:40:21.600
So drawing BFA Blizzard wanted to hit the reset button, however they also wanted to keep

03:40:21.600 --> 03:40:26.180
this idea of borrowed power around since it had gone well during Legion, and the

03:40:26.180 --> 03:40:30.520
brand new idea they had was Azorite Armor, these were pieces of armor that had certain

03:40:30.520 --> 03:40:34.640
bonuses on which you will be able to unlock. But in reality Azurite ammo was just never

03:40:34.640 --> 03:40:39.320
quite as exciting as artifact weapons were, and many of the bonuses were just sort of

03:40:39.320 --> 03:40:44.400
plain and things which occurred passively in combat. But your NBFA was even further

03:40:44.400 --> 03:40:49.120
than that would borrow power, later adding on Azurite essences which were really powerful

03:40:49.120 --> 03:40:53.640
and finally during the end of the expansion they even had corruptions. These were modifications

03:40:53.640 --> 03:40:57.160
to your base gear where they could have random procs that would do random amounts

03:40:57.160 --> 03:40:59.760
of damage randomly and there's procs without the

03:40:59.760 --> 03:41:07.240
Okay, I actually hate to say this because like I didn't like BFA necessarily as like

03:41:07.240 --> 03:41:16.960
a game or an expansion, but the gameplay of BFA itself in Arena specifically and Mythic

03:41:16.960 --> 03:41:21.560
Plus was actually quite fun.

03:41:21.560 --> 03:41:28.620
From the mage perspective, I had fun in BFA arenas as a mage and in Mythic Plus.

03:41:28.620 --> 03:41:30.540
It was actually pretty darn fun.

03:41:30.540 --> 03:41:35.740
I hate to admit it because everyone always hates on BFA, which I agree with.

03:41:35.740 --> 03:41:39.020
Like there was some really bad decisions.

03:41:39.020 --> 03:41:44.020
But the gameplay, which I think is actually quite critical in Mythic Plus and Arena from

03:41:44.020 --> 03:41:47.980
the mage Bob was fun.

03:41:47.980 --> 03:41:54.100
I really think. I really think. It was fun.

03:41:54.100 --> 03:41:59.380
EPS, your actual rotation. It's probably one of the most weird and stupid errors of World

03:41:59.380 --> 03:42:04.020
of Warcraft we've ever seen when it came to performance individually. Yet it was so wacky

03:42:04.020 --> 03:42:07.580
that I know a lot of people did enjoy it at the same time just because it was so

03:42:07.580 --> 03:42:08.580
unserious.

03:42:08.580 --> 03:42:13.020
Yeah, that's kind of why. It was so crazy that it's like, wait a minute, this is

03:42:13.020 --> 03:42:19.020
actually kind of fun that's kind of that's kind of how it was for me but I think the

03:42:19.020 --> 03:42:24.060
big lesson for Blizzard during BFA in the turning point here was the fact that borrowed power can

03:42:24.060 --> 03:42:29.340
only go so far people generally don't want to get to the expansion of feelers that a character has

03:42:29.340 --> 03:42:34.540
got vastly weaker what makes your class and spec enjoyable has to be down to its own rotation

03:42:34.540 --> 03:42:39.260
and to some extent it has to be things that can be carried over into the next expansion

03:42:39.260 --> 03:42:43.420
And then as the second part of the one-two punch we now have the Shadowlands.

03:42:43.420 --> 03:42:50.100
You know when Shadowlands was underway it had so much hype and it looked as though Blizzard were really going to be turning a corner after BFA.

03:42:50.100 --> 03:42:53.860
People were cautiously optimistic about this expansion.

03:42:53.860 --> 03:42:59.100
And then it began and, well, pretty much immediately things started going rather pear shaped.

03:42:59.100 --> 03:43:04.500
I think there are two real learning points from Shadowlands which are equally both as important as one another.

03:43:04.500 --> 03:43:07.460
The first of which has to be the brand new Covenant system.

03:43:07.460 --> 03:43:11.140
So during Shadowlands there's several reputations called Covenants.

03:43:11.140 --> 03:43:15.800
You can only pick one of these at once and when you pick them they give you some new powerful abilities.

03:43:15.800 --> 03:43:20.100
However these abilities are not necessarily as good in all areas of content.

03:43:20.100 --> 03:43:23.700
For example for one Covenant they may give you the best thing from Ithic Plus.

03:43:23.700 --> 03:43:26.180
Another one for PvP and another one for Raiding.

03:43:26.180 --> 03:43:30.020
This force players to make a choice of which Covenant they wanted to side with,

03:43:30.020 --> 03:43:33.020
and which brand new ability was most important to them.

03:43:33.020 --> 03:43:36.140
But people did not like being locked into that decision

03:43:36.140 --> 03:43:39.720
because it just meant that whilst they were good at one thing, they would then be sub-powered

03:43:39.720 --> 03:43:42.520
over things compared to people who are pigs on the other car.

03:43:42.520 --> 03:43:48.160
Bro, I think there's so many things I'm excited for in Classic Plus, but I think the number

03:43:48.160 --> 03:43:55.520
one thing I'm excited for is to have, and maybe I shouldn't make this as an assumption,

03:43:55.520 --> 03:44:02.000
because maybe this won't be the case, but, is to have a home again.

03:44:02.000 --> 03:44:05.320
Like to have a home again.

03:44:05.320 --> 03:44:09.480
I feel like retail for so long was that for me.

03:44:09.480 --> 03:44:11.480
And I think at some point I was just like,

03:44:11.480 --> 03:44:13.640
okay, well, let me do all the seasonal stuff

03:44:13.640 --> 03:44:16.600
and have fun here, have fun there, have fun there.

03:44:16.600 --> 03:44:18.480
But I haven't had a WoW to just,

03:44:18.480 --> 03:44:20.040
like we don't know what's gonna happen to MoP.

03:44:20.040 --> 03:44:22.240
We don't know what's gonna happen to TBC.

03:44:23.240 --> 03:44:25.680
I want a WoW to be able to just be like, yeah,

03:44:25.680 --> 03:44:28.400
here we go, man, we're playing WoW, you know?

03:44:29.720 --> 03:44:32.540
You have a home in Arizona, bro.

03:44:32.540 --> 03:44:33.800
Housing, lol.

03:44:35.320 --> 03:44:39.560
Nice guys. Nice. You got it.

03:44:39.560 --> 03:44:43.680
Overnance. Blizzard ended up sticking pretty firm with this system for a long time before

03:44:43.680 --> 03:44:47.800
finally allowing you to just pick whichever covenant you wanted to. But I think it was

03:44:47.800 --> 03:44:53.080
a lesson in not forcing players into a decision where too much power is tied into it. Arguably

03:44:53.080 --> 03:44:57.040
the even bigger learning point from the Shadowlands though was that, you know what,

03:44:57.040 --> 03:45:01.360
lore in this game, kind of matters. The story of Shadowlands was just honestly

03:45:01.360 --> 03:45:05.920
some more baffling with Sylvanas coming out to every single corner and outsmarting everyone

03:45:05.920 --> 03:45:10.600
whilst being infinitely powerful and our super-new Ultima bag-guided Jailer who have been planning

03:45:10.600 --> 03:45:15.760
everything that had gone bad since, well, just about the dawn of World of Warcraft apparently,

03:45:15.760 --> 03:45:16.760
somehow.

03:45:16.760 --> 03:45:19.120
It never been mentioned before but, uh, yeah he did.

03:45:19.120 --> 03:45:23.080
And the big payoff for all these new villains and the story unfolding was, well, there'll

03:45:23.080 --> 03:45:26.600
be something worse that'll happen but we're not going to tell you what it is.

03:45:26.600 --> 03:45:30.480
All in all it was just a disappointment for lore fans both of those who are die-hards

03:45:30.480 --> 03:45:34.760
of the subject, and those were really trying to get invested into it for the first time.

03:45:34.760 --> 03:45:38.940
And honestly during this expansion I think a lot of people lost a lot of faith with Blizzard's

03:45:38.940 --> 03:45:40.780
ability to tell a story.

03:45:40.780 --> 03:45:45.520
But then we head on to Dragonflight and things start picking up again for World of Warcraft.

03:45:45.520 --> 03:45:50.200
In some ways this is a bit of a spiritual successor to TBC because whilst TBC gave

03:45:50.200 --> 03:45:53.680
us flying, the flying version that it gave us was very rigid.

03:45:53.680 --> 03:45:56.920
You'd hop on your mount, you point them in a direction and then you'd just go

03:45:56.920 --> 03:46:00.120
to get a drink or something for 30 seconds and come back.

03:46:00.120 --> 03:46:04.140
Dragonflight had there was brand new was Dragonriding, a brand new way to see the

03:46:04.140 --> 03:46:09.440
skies wheel mouse going to be far more dynamic, customizable, fast and just more

03:46:09.440 --> 03:46:13.400
fun in general to use rather than pointing it in a direction. Now mouse

03:46:13.400 --> 03:46:16.520
working that this was not exactly something novel to World of Warcraft

03:46:16.520 --> 03:46:20.440
to Guild Wars 2 had done it many many years before however it was pretty

03:46:20.440 --> 03:46:24.680
much an instant hit all the same and over time was a little more Dragonriding

03:46:24.680 --> 03:46:29.000
type features for many old mouse too. Like this this reminds me the

03:46:29.000 --> 03:46:34.160
conversation we were having a couple hours ago where we were watching the Aiki video

03:46:34.160 --> 03:46:38.600
like maybe an hour or two ago and he was talking about like how to make retail

03:46:38.600 --> 03:46:43.080
feel small and homey again so you actually walk into your and walk around

03:46:43.080 --> 03:46:47.080
and meet your fellow wow player and like when I see stuff like this it reminds

03:46:47.080 --> 03:46:54.240
me of like you can't eat like you have dragon riding bro like you can't you

03:46:54.240 --> 03:46:59.920
can't do that. Like you could build that in Classic Plus, but like for retail, you're

03:46:59.920 --> 03:47:09.080
moving so fast, like you can't turn an apple into an orange. An apple is always going to

03:47:09.080 --> 03:47:17.640
be an apple. No matter how much you want your apple to be an orange, it won't be an orange.

03:47:17.640 --> 03:47:23.640
It's an apple. Right. That's kind of like this. Does that make sense? Is RU 2026?

03:47:23.640 --> 03:47:27.500
Many different things in your collection suddenly became way more interesting to use.

03:47:27.500 --> 03:47:31.780
It was a good albeit unexpected update and I think Dragon Riding was the main thing to

03:47:31.780 --> 03:47:33.940
highlight for Dragon flights.

03:47:33.940 --> 03:47:34.940
Next is the war within.

03:47:34.940 --> 03:47:37.860
So for the most of Lord of Warcraft's life cycle, the anger-

03:47:37.860 --> 03:47:41.820
Okay yeah, you could paint the apple orange.

03:47:41.820 --> 03:47:45.580
And it technically would be orange.

03:47:45.580 --> 03:47:46.580
That's not the point.

03:47:46.580 --> 03:47:47.580
You guys missed the point.

03:47:47.580 --> 03:47:49.140
Alright, forget it.

03:47:49.140 --> 03:47:50.140
Forget I even said it.

03:47:50.140 --> 03:47:56.040
AIM had 3 different departments you had raiding, Mythic Plus, and PvP, if you wanted to play

03:47:56.040 --> 03:48:00.220
seriously on your own you were kind of a bit out of luck at max level, unless you were

03:48:00.220 --> 03:48:02.540
a cosmetic farmer of course.

03:48:02.540 --> 03:48:06.260
That finally changed with a brand new feature called DELVS.

03:48:06.260 --> 03:48:10.140
DELVS are small instances that you can run solo or you can even team up if you want

03:48:10.140 --> 03:48:11.140
to.

03:48:11.140 --> 03:48:14.420
They're designed to not take too long and you have an NPC helper to come along,

03:48:14.420 --> 03:48:16.660
who spec you can designate as well.

03:48:16.660 --> 03:48:20.320
The real good thing about Dells is they gave people who are a bit shorter on time a real

03:48:20.320 --> 03:48:22.400
path towards end game gearing.

03:48:22.400 --> 03:48:26.480
I think part of Dells was Blizzard acknowledging that their player base is, you know, getting

03:48:26.480 --> 03:48:30.560
a bit older with the game as well and, well, maybe that everyone has all the time to sit

03:48:30.560 --> 03:48:33.000
inside a raid for several hours a few...

03:48:33.000 --> 03:48:34.000
Older?

03:48:34.000 --> 03:48:35.000
Okay.

03:48:35.000 --> 03:48:39.720
A few times a week anymore.

03:48:39.720 --> 03:48:43.960
I think Dells were absolutely the unnecessary stat for retail and for so many players

03:48:43.960 --> 03:48:47.080
they've allowed them to experience challenging content once again,

03:48:47.080 --> 03:48:49.680
whilst being on a bit more of a limited time schedule.

03:48:49.680 --> 03:48:51.840
Which finally brings us to Midnight.

03:48:51.840 --> 03:48:54.320
And whilst Midnight's not quite at its end yet,

03:48:54.320 --> 03:48:59.440
its most impactful feature is without a doubt already released and that is player housing.

03:48:59.440 --> 03:49:04.440
You know even during World of Warcraft's beta and alpha Blizzard were experimenting with player housing.

03:49:04.440 --> 03:49:08.680
There's that huge portcullis with the blue swirly portal behind it in Stormwind,

03:49:08.680 --> 03:49:11.240
that was supposed to be the housing district of that.

03:49:11.240 --> 03:49:17.240
This is something Blizzard have wanted to do essentially forever, and, they finally did it.

03:49:17.240 --> 03:49:23.240
After doing a bit of research on Google, it says that you can in fact make an apple taste like an orange.

03:49:29.240 --> 03:49:33.240
To midnight, so our last players can finally build something of their own.

03:49:33.240 --> 03:49:34.240
Alright, I guess I'm wrong.

03:49:34.240 --> 03:49:37.240
And then there's a ton more customization and collection into the game.

03:49:37.240 --> 03:49:40.240
There's even housing neighborhood you can share with multiple other people.

03:49:40.240 --> 03:49:46.240
I think all in all housing has been the biggest feature of the expansion and the most heavily advertised on that's for sure

03:49:46.240 --> 03:49:51.240
And it's something that will continue to grow significantly as each new expansion comes by

03:49:51.240 --> 03:49:58.240
And though we have it, there's what I think are some of the most impactful moments during World of Warcraft's 20 plus year history

03:49:58.240 --> 03:50:02.240
Rain due from the explosive growth of vanilla through to the convenience of wrath

03:50:02.240 --> 03:50:06.240
All the way to modern expansions where new impactful features keep on coming out

03:50:06.240 --> 03:50:12.240
And I think whilst World of Warcraft definitely has its formula now in terms of what new content will be in each expansion,

03:50:12.240 --> 03:50:17.920
it's still always exciting to look out for that brand new feature which changes the game once again forever.

03:50:17.920 --> 03:50:22.080
So what do you think? What would you have as the most impactful feature of each expansion?

03:50:22.080 --> 03:50:23.840
Let me know in the comments down below.

03:50:23.840 --> 03:50:28.480
And as always, thank you all so much for watching and listening in, and I'll see you all in the next one.

03:50:28.480 --> 03:50:29.440
Very soon.

03:50:29.440 --> 03:50:37.000
I love Willy's content man. It's just chill relaxing. It's just like little fun facts. It's great

03:50:37.640 --> 03:50:39.160
Thank You Willy

03:50:39.160 --> 03:50:44.920
All right guys, I don't I don't think I can react any longer. I my brain is turned to mush that is like I

03:50:46.160 --> 03:50:48.160
Think we got every video on here

03:50:50.840 --> 03:50:55.920
Yeah close enough I'm gonna jump around on World of Warcraft

03:50:55.920 --> 03:51:02.080
No, Gbay, I already watched Gbay yesterday.

03:51:02.080 --> 03:51:03.080
Like the video?

03:51:03.080 --> 03:51:04.080
I think I did give it a like.

03:51:04.080 --> 03:51:09.640
Did I miss the thumbs up?

03:51:09.640 --> 03:51:13.520
I saw Esfan playing the new NoPixelGTARP and heard Soda is going to try it.

03:51:13.520 --> 03:51:16.520
Did you get invited?

03:51:16.520 --> 03:51:24.520
Yeah, guys, of course I got invited to play, obviously.

03:51:24.520 --> 03:51:31.860
I got invited I I actually can't I actually can't make it though is what I told them and

03:51:34.380 --> 03:51:36.380
Cuz I'm because I'm busy

03:51:37.000 --> 03:51:41.340
But yeah, obviously could go to that if I felt like I wanted to

03:51:42.180 --> 03:51:44.940
Which I don't really feel like I do currently

03:51:48.500 --> 03:51:52.000
All right, let's clear out the inventory just a little bit and

03:51:52.000 --> 03:51:56.680
And head over to Stratholm

03:52:22.000 --> 03:52:41.520
That's probably fun there off with yeah is this era or TBC TBC you get your ten games

03:52:41.520 --> 03:52:48.760
in this week yeah I did but we went four and nine which looks bad but that does make

03:52:48.760 --> 03:52:57.400
me one of the highest rated Prott Paladins in the entire world. Black temple time? Um,

03:52:58.920 --> 03:53:05.960
I guys, I think the black temple dream is pretty dead. Um, I've been looking for weeks and there

03:53:05.960 --> 03:53:11.560
is no daytime groups. So that's just what it is. It's not that my care. Look, look, guys,

03:53:11.560 --> 03:53:20.480
My character is juiced to the gills in gear man. We are juiced to the gills in the gear

03:53:20.480 --> 03:53:23.840
It's not about that. It's just at this point. It's cheese. You know what I'm saying?

03:53:26.000 --> 03:53:28.440
I'm sorry sorry, but you're so delusional

03:53:33.400 --> 03:53:35.400
What do you mean by that

03:53:36.720 --> 03:53:38.400
What's up, sir, how's it going Jack?

03:53:38.400 --> 03:53:42.640
Hey, we got a $10 super chat from player a lot and says hey man any last predictions or

03:53:43.600 --> 03:53:45.600
Expectations going into blizzcon

03:53:46.600 --> 03:53:48.600
Hmm I

03:53:51.000 --> 03:53:53.500
Want classic plus I

03:53:56.040 --> 03:53:58.040
Want it to not suck I

03:54:01.200 --> 03:54:04.360
Want it to be good enough to where I want to play multiple characters

03:54:08.400 --> 03:54:13.400
Yeah, it's pretty much, yeah, it's pretty much that.

03:54:20.400 --> 03:54:24.400
Guys, there is no Classic Plus, it's the Starcraft MMO.

03:54:24.400 --> 03:54:28.400
There is something on the Starcraft website that looks really interesting.

03:54:38.400 --> 03:54:50.620
Starcraft fall I want Wow on console come on I play the heck out of a Starcraft

03:54:50.620 --> 03:55:04.940
MMO dude I've made that claim it's not even a claim I've made the what word am I

03:55:04.940 --> 03:55:21.460
looking for here. Assessment that all popular MMOs are fantasy based. They have mages and

03:55:21.460 --> 03:55:28.780
warriors and hunters and archers not okay not all but most all popular MMOs are fantasy

03:55:28.780 --> 03:55:35.380
based. So I've made the claim from what I've witnessed and I don't know if there

03:55:35.380 --> 03:55:39.100
can be a Starcraft MMO that could be bigger than like a WoW one.

03:55:39.100 --> 03:55:43.540
You should take your 1 to 15 experience on Eera and do a retrospective on it before BlizzCon.

03:55:43.540 --> 03:55:47.300
Final thoughts before CL Plus and stuff you know.

03:55:47.300 --> 03:55:53.340
Yo Moose, I'm flying out like tomorrow. So I don't even know if I could do a

03:55:53.340 --> 03:56:02.020
a one through 15. Yeah, thanks for the fine, Ben. There was a Star Wars MMO. Yeah, what

03:56:02.020 --> 03:56:14.780
happened to it? That's my point. Every time you see it, you see like all, you see all

03:56:14.780 --> 03:56:22.420
of the popular MMOs follow the same trend. Right? I'm not saying it can't exist. I'm

03:56:22.420 --> 03:56:26.340
I'm saying to rival the popularity of the top ones,

03:56:26.340 --> 03:56:29.380
my claim is that they're all fantasy games, man.

03:56:29.380 --> 03:56:32.380
And I was trying to understand why the other month,

03:56:32.380 --> 03:56:35.660
like why is it the case that you see fantasy games

03:56:35.660 --> 03:56:36.900
at the top of the MMO genre?

03:56:36.900 --> 03:56:41.900
It's not like a lot of like Starcraft-themed games.

03:56:41.980 --> 03:56:43.420
And someone in my chat said,

03:56:43.420 --> 03:56:45.800
it's because we're all humans

03:56:45.800 --> 03:56:50.800
and going back to primitive human survival is really cool.

03:56:50.800 --> 03:56:52.800
And I think that guy was right.

03:56:53.800 --> 03:57:12.800
It's like going back to fighting with swords and bows and I mean magic is a bit of a stretch, but still magic and that kind of stuff is like just this really cool experience as a human, whereas fighting in space is cool, but not as cool for an MMO setting.

03:57:12.800 --> 03:57:13.800
So I think that's why.

03:57:16.800 --> 03:57:18.800
I said that, that was you? Well, you were right then.

03:57:18.800 --> 03:57:19.800
Or I think you were right.

03:57:21.480 --> 03:57:26.120
It's all things to token maybe do you like runescape? I love runescape. Yeah, I

03:57:28.520 --> 03:57:31.040
Said that no I said it

03:57:33.760 --> 03:57:40.240
Did brother get golden quit or just taking a break for the con no I didn't quit because I peaked that is not what happened I

03:57:42.360 --> 03:57:44.360
Am taking a break for the con

03:57:50.800 --> 03:57:55.480
Have you still not read Lord of the Rings?

03:57:55.480 --> 03:57:58.120
I have not.

03:57:58.120 --> 03:58:02.200
I have not.

03:58:02.200 --> 03:58:03.760
I have not.

03:58:03.760 --> 03:58:04.760
I have not.

03:58:04.760 --> 03:58:07.000
Aren't you also taking a break from RuneScape?

03:58:07.000 --> 03:58:14.880
Guys, any game that I'm not currently playing right now, I'm taking a break from.

03:58:14.880 --> 03:58:16.380
It's pretty much all you need to know.

03:58:29.760 --> 03:58:31.120
RIP New World, bro.

03:58:31.120 --> 03:58:34.440
I've been watching New World streams at night.

03:58:34.440 --> 03:58:37.720
I swear I'm like kinda itching to play some New World.

03:58:37.720 --> 03:58:39.000
I don't know where this came from.

03:58:39.000 --> 03:58:40.340
It came out of nowhere.

03:58:40.340 --> 03:58:42.340
And

03:58:42.340 --> 03:58:48.180
I've been like itching to like play some new like the wars in that game were so fun like the world PvP

03:58:48.180 --> 03:58:53.140
Like it probably wouldn't be like what I envisioned it to be after playing and probably get bored in 20 minutes

03:58:53.140 --> 03:58:55.140
But like it still seems like kind of fun

03:58:59.420 --> 03:59:04.820
New world's last patch was fire. I didn't play it. I was actually going to and then

03:59:05.220 --> 03:59:08.540
They they it was so the timing is so awkward

03:59:08.540 --> 03:59:14.940
They basically dropped a new patch that was like really good and people liked it and then right after they said

03:59:15.220 --> 03:59:17.220
They are shutting the game down

03:59:18.340 --> 03:59:20.340
So like I was about to play it

03:59:20.660 --> 03:59:24.740
Showback was playing if you guys remember and he said it was good and I was talking to show back and he's like yeah, bro

03:59:24.740 --> 03:59:25.640
Try it. I'm like, okay

03:59:25.640 --> 03:59:29.620
I'll try it and then I was gonna play it and then they said they're shutting the game down

03:59:29.620 --> 03:59:31.620
And I'm like well, what's the point now?

03:59:38.540 --> 03:59:43.420
Same boat for me, yeah.

03:59:43.420 --> 03:59:44.420
It shut down.

03:59:44.420 --> 03:59:47.220
It's shutting down in January of next year.

03:59:47.220 --> 03:59:51.100
So it wasn't like an immediate shutdown, it'll be like a one-year shutdown and we're getting

03:59:51.100 --> 03:59:57.460
close to the end of that.

03:59:57.460 --> 04:00:00.820
You got Thunder Fury since when?

04:00:00.820 --> 04:00:07.300
I did a molten core like six months ago or something and got a thunder fury.

04:00:10.300 --> 04:00:12.140
Oh, yo, Denver is doing the same thing I'm doing.

04:00:13.460 --> 04:00:15.140
What's my slash plate on this guy?

04:00:15.340 --> 04:00:19.300
We're at 21 days on this character, which isn't like that crazy.

04:00:19.300 --> 04:00:19.820
Right.

04:00:24.980 --> 04:00:26.780
I emphasis on a molten core.

04:00:26.820 --> 04:00:28.660
Yeah, yeah, I did a molten core.

04:00:28.940 --> 04:00:29.460
That's right.

04:00:30.820 --> 04:00:35.780
It's the one where his GM friends helped him. I don't have GM. Well, I

04:00:37.260 --> 04:00:40.800
If I had GM friends, I would never ask them for help

04:00:48.180 --> 04:00:50.180
Final answer

04:01:00.820 --> 04:01:18.260
Can I get the- if I run right away can I get this guy?

04:01:18.260 --> 04:01:19.740
No I don't think so huh?

04:01:19.740 --> 04:01:25.180
Oh maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe,

04:01:25.180 --> 04:01:28.500
maybe with a speed plot?

04:01:28.500 --> 04:01:32.500
I know what the mage you can, if with blink, but I don't know if the panel you can.

04:01:33.500 --> 04:01:39.500
Skill issue, that is not a skill issue, it's a limitation of the spec that I'm playing.

04:01:58.500 --> 04:02:01.940
Link and Rocket Boots? Oh, we got Rocket Boots.

04:02:01.940 --> 04:02:04.100
Not that I even need it though, like, what's the point?

04:02:09.340 --> 04:02:11.100
Oh, Numbers.

04:02:24.700 --> 04:02:26.820
Numbers, Numbers, Numbers.

04:02:28.500 --> 04:02:30.500
Very big numbers

04:02:32.900 --> 04:02:38.060
Use full flame I don't like to I happen to my bank, but I don't like to use it

04:02:58.500 --> 04:03:03.400
What level can I do this with my panel? You can do it at 70. If you don't have good gear, you do have to min-max

04:03:04.260 --> 04:03:11.760
and get certain items. Like if you have bad gear, you want to use Demonforged breastplate and Skullflame shield or like Petrified Lichenguard.

04:03:12.060 --> 04:03:16.100
But if you have good gear, it doesn't really matter what you have. As long as you have

04:03:16.820 --> 04:03:18.820
figurine of the Colossus you're set.

04:03:19.340 --> 04:03:22.020
But with worse gear, you'd also want to use

04:03:22.020 --> 04:03:29.020
use DeBiri's enigma for extra block chance on use.

04:03:40.420 --> 04:03:44.920
The bug where I can't scroll down the loot on most of these mobs is so annoying. What's

04:03:44.920 --> 04:03:47.920
causing that?

04:03:52.020 --> 04:03:59.020
Okay, there we go.

04:03:59.020 --> 04:04:06.780
I'll take it.

04:04:06.780 --> 04:04:09.100
What's the add-on that shows what buffs you need to put on, like food buff?

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Um, yeah, what is that, Nova buff tracker or something?

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Nova Consume Helper.

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I swear that's actually just such a nice add-on to have when you're flying classic WoW.

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Nova Consume Helper.

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Early flight tomorrow for the Khan?

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Yeah, I'm actually gonna get off early today so we can just like pack up and chill out

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I mean it never really gets old.

04:05:11.460 --> 04:05:18.460
It never really gets old.

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Nah, I'm going solo tomorrow, Spectre.

04:05:27.420 --> 04:05:29.140
This looks like a satisfying way to make gold.

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Oh, it's great, yeah.

04:05:34.660 --> 04:05:46.020
right or is worse yeah it is I was actually surprised to find out that was the case but

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I did the math and it's like so much of your damage comes from consecration that like 10%

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more damage on consecration is better how come you don't play European TBC seems like

04:06:01.460 --> 04:06:06.960
the raid times would line up better. I was talking about that yesterday. I absolutely should

04:06:06.960 --> 04:06:12.060
achievement earned pocket change. Actually download an add-on that gives like TBC some

04:06:12.060 --> 04:06:17.460
like achievement tracking. It's called Big Number Good. Where it'll tell you like what

04:06:17.460 --> 04:06:23.460
you've done. Haven't really looked at it too much. Writing skill, I don't know. It's

04:06:23.460 --> 04:06:28.100
kind of sick. Would you want area looting and classic plus? I actually like don't care

04:06:28.100 --> 04:06:35.380
that much but I don't know. I was talking to Ampy the other year about a wee looting and Ampy

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seemed to not like it. I feel like it's one of those things I'm indifferent about. If they add it

04:06:41.860 --> 04:06:46.740
I'd probably be like oh nice and if they don't add it I'd probably be like oh that's fine.

04:06:47.300 --> 04:06:50.820
Like there's so many so many things like that that I don't care about and I'm more focused

04:06:50.820 --> 04:06:57.620
on like some big things that I do care about. Oh what I got all the way through there I

04:06:57.620 --> 04:07:01.300
I even know you can do that. I ran all the way through in one go. We'll take it

04:07:11.460 --> 04:07:13.680
Got a set up in EU tune. Yeah, like so

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If I could do it all over again

04:07:16.220 --> 04:07:18.300
I probably would make an EU TBC tune

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But it is what it is like I actually have way more of a schedule that lines up with European rating

04:07:23.260 --> 04:07:27.900
than NA raiding and it's not even close like I haven't really been able to find

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too many NA raids but when TBC came out I was playing with all my friends and

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they played but now they all quit so that's kind of why too

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Oh, yeah.

04:07:57.620 --> 04:08:03.460
Like Savvix and Amp were playing on my realm when TBC came out, so I had like a daytime raid team. It was great.

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Honestly, I probably could plop wings since I never really need to bubble.

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But it's kind of nice having 12-hole chest in case.

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Is that max rank Holy Shield?

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Nah, I'm just using rank 1.

04:08:30.620 --> 04:08:31.860
Is the farm really profitable?

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It's about 50 gold a run.

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Runs take about 10 minutes, so I guess pretty good.

04:08:43.620 --> 04:08:59.060
I think he's just taking a short break pre Blizzcon doing some IRL stuff.

04:08:59.060 --> 04:09:02.860
He's been working on a podcast, which has been awesome.

04:09:02.860 --> 04:09:03.860
I was on the show.

04:09:03.860 --> 04:09:11.460
We had Joker and Ampey, but I think he plans to get back to it soon.

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Cool.

04:09:28.340 --> 04:09:31.660
Minecraft broke him.

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Was it the Ender Dragon guy since he couldn't kill the Ender Dragon and he's just like I'm

04:09:34.940 --> 04:09:35.940
out of here?

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Is that really what it comes down to?

04:09:38.460 --> 04:09:48.540
I've been loving the Savick's podcast. Yeah, they're great man.

04:09:48.540 --> 04:09:57.460
Ampies was so long that he changed my mind on 40 man raids versus 20. I actually watched

04:09:57.460 --> 04:10:04.500
Ampies snippet on the 40 man raids versus 20. He basically was saying like 40 man raids

04:10:04.500 --> 04:10:12.900
make guilds into little village states or like tribes because you actually need more people to

04:10:12.900 --> 04:10:18.180
come together for one common reason and it like means that guilds exist but not only that do they

04:10:18.180 --> 04:10:26.100
exist because of that like they they you have like a DKP guy you have an enchanter you have like

04:10:26.100 --> 04:10:30.260
the person that organizes the groups like it's part of the soul of the game and like I actually

04:10:30.260 --> 04:10:36.820
think he's right on all of that? But he still didn't change my opinion. I still like 20 man raids

04:10:36.820 --> 04:10:45.300
more in practicality. But I do think everything he said was true. So he had a lot of good reasons

04:10:45.300 --> 04:10:50.740
for it. I think like in practicality though, 40 man raids are still like really brutal to set up.

04:10:51.540 --> 04:10:56.820
It's really, really, really tough to actually pull off 40 man raids unless you're like an

04:10:56.820 --> 04:11:01.980
ampy and want to do all of the group building and forming and stuff and like

04:11:01.980 --> 04:11:05.780
20 man raids or 25 men are just so much more manable to actually manageable to

04:11:05.780 --> 04:11:15.060
actually do but I think you had a good point

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40 man raids are great when you're the best player and everyone wants to play

04:11:21.660 --> 04:11:25.260
with you I mean despite being the best player and having everyone wants to

04:11:25.260 --> 04:11:32.260
play with me like I still prefer like the smaller like 20 to 25 man thing believe it or not

04:11:55.260 --> 04:12:14.260
I bait. That's not good. He was talking about ampy? No, I don't think that's what he meant.

04:12:14.260 --> 04:12:16.260
I don't think he meant that

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Lots of blood, oh Bruno, thanks for the problem

04:12:44.260 --> 04:12:57.740
I miss our slap in the rift we'll be back to the rift at some point just not not right now

04:12:57.740 --> 04:13:07.420
what's the gold per hour in this it's about 50 gold or run runs take about I think about

04:13:07.420 --> 04:13:17.700
10 minutes. I think so I think it's like like 250 to 300 ish golden hour. Depends how like

04:13:17.700 --> 04:13:24.020
optimized you are and how much downtime and this and that and RNG on your drops. It's

04:13:24.020 --> 04:13:25.020
not bad.

04:13:25.020 --> 04:13:36.540
Am I going to IRL stream at Blizzcon? I don't think so, no.

04:13:36.540 --> 04:13:40.480
charge her attempt on the streamer client could if we're gonna go for a

04:13:40.480 --> 04:13:45.060
mount though dude I like the Zulean Tiger man

04:13:52.780 --> 04:13:58.700
Blizzcon is this Saturday and Sunday start to like 10 a.m. I think

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PST, yeah.

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Do you have a nice layer?

04:14:22.340 --> 04:14:27.700
I'm actually on dream side, man.

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What about a vlog?

04:14:28.700 --> 04:14:31.660
A vlog is kind of like up in the air right now.

04:14:31.660 --> 04:14:34.660
I'll kind of see with like my schedule what we can lock it and dial.

04:14:44.660 --> 04:14:49.660
Let's do a main tank high shell run. We cleared high shell two days ago.

04:14:49.660 --> 04:14:51.660
What was it, like two stairs or something?

04:15:01.660 --> 04:15:07.960
Was there a reasoning for a PvE server this go around?

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Yeah, it's the first time I've ever rolled on a PvE realm.

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The main reason is because I was going to main tank on a Paladin and I was like, I don't

04:15:17.560 --> 04:15:20.840
really care to world PvP on a tank.

04:15:20.840 --> 04:15:24.440
The other reason is this character was my character from hardcore and you can only

04:15:24.440 --> 04:15:27.440
transfer to PvE realms.

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So those were basically the two reasons.

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If I could have transferred to a PVP one, I might have just sent it anyway.

04:15:47.120 --> 04:15:57.120
Okay.

04:15:57.120 --> 04:16:05.800
Aren't hardcore servers basically PvE realms?

04:16:05.800 --> 04:16:13.680
That's kind of true, yeah.

04:16:13.680 --> 04:16:16.680
Furbogs would be hype. I don't know about Furbogs, man.

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What are we farming? Just getting some gold. Yep.

04:16:21.180 --> 04:16:26.680
I've spent, like, over 2,000 gold rating in the last 10 days on this character.

04:16:27.680 --> 04:16:30.680
Which is kind of crazy.

04:16:32.180 --> 04:16:33.180
So...

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I was like, might as well farm some.

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Sounds about right, yeah.

04:16:43.180 --> 04:16:46.180
Yup.

04:16:46.180 --> 04:16:48.180
Yup

04:17:16.180 --> 04:17:23.180
Actually, I could maybe bubble pull this pull if I felt like I wanted to.

04:17:23.180 --> 04:17:32.180
Yeah, actually, we might.

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Hmm, is this smart?

04:17:40.180 --> 04:17:46.480
I can't really tell if that was smart or not.

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Should be fine now.

04:17:49.480 --> 04:18:03.480
Yeah, that's probably fine.

04:18:03.480 --> 04:18:18.880
play? What trinket am I using for this? It's uh figuring it across this. Basically every

04:18:18.880 --> 04:18:25.120
time I block I get healed for 120 and I just block a lot with this many low level mobs

04:18:25.120 --> 04:18:31.560
so they heal me for more than they hurt me with the trinket up so I go to full HP

04:18:31.560 --> 04:18:38.680
with the trinket and it's on a two-minute cooldown so I can basically never die I mean if I screwed

04:18:38.680 --> 04:18:47.160
up hard enough I could die but it's pretty hard to die.

04:18:47.160 --> 04:18:53.080
ERP you gonna level a Pali tank what is this?

04:18:53.080 --> 04:18:57.680
Yeah dude there's so many Pali tanks outside of Strat and like some of them have like

04:18:57.680 --> 04:19:06.320
funny names like gold printer lull or like gold farmer or whatever gold farmer X

04:19:06.320 --> 04:19:11.320
like you don't even need like that good a gear to do this like you do need to be

04:19:11.320 --> 04:19:15.080
proud you need you do need to be 70 and you do you need like a couple key items

04:19:15.080 --> 04:19:22.040
like some basic tanking gear but it's not even that hard to make it work

04:19:27.680 --> 04:19:42.320
Okay, not bad.

04:19:42.320 --> 04:19:45.360
So I do need to clear out the inventory now.

04:19:45.360 --> 04:19:50.840
If I get lucky enough, maybe someone outside has a...

04:19:50.840 --> 04:19:52.880
Dang it.

04:19:52.880 --> 04:19:54.200
They didn't have a multi-loop back then?

04:19:54.200 --> 04:19:55.200
They did not.

04:19:55.200 --> 04:20:01.160
Oh crap, I don't know about instance helper on.

04:20:01.160 --> 04:20:03.000
Is anything cool drop doing this farm?

04:20:03.000 --> 04:20:05.080
I did it a few months back and got an epic.

04:20:05.080 --> 04:20:09.560
I thought it was like a flurry axe or like a, I was a crow blade maybe.

04:20:09.560 --> 04:20:13.960
And when something like that drops, it's real nice on the gold per hour.

04:20:13.960 --> 04:20:14.960
Not running a vendor shield.

04:20:14.960 --> 04:20:24.720
Yeah, I pretty much never run a vendor shield.

04:20:24.720 --> 04:20:28.480
When you solo the last boss for the mount, I haven't tried, but I feel like you could

04:20:28.480 --> 04:20:29.980
definitely solo it.

04:20:29.980 --> 04:20:34.040
Yeah, I feel like it wouldn't be that bad.

04:20:34.040 --> 04:20:35.720
I'm grinding for that trinket tonight now.

04:20:35.720 --> 04:20:38.600
Oh yeah, this is a must-have from Shattered Halls.

04:20:38.600 --> 04:20:41.840
If you're a prop Polly and you want to do any type of solo farming, this trinket's

04:20:41.840 --> 04:20:44.340
awesome.

04:20:44.340 --> 04:20:46.580
Pop it, full HP, done so.

04:20:46.580 --> 04:20:52.720
And if you have bad gear, I would pair it with Dabberies and Nigma to get, like,

04:20:52.720 --> 04:20:56.760
If you use Dabberies at the same time as Figuring, you go full HP like instantly.

04:20:56.760 --> 04:20:58.560
Like literally instantly.

04:21:01.200 --> 04:21:02.920
Oh hey, look at that!

04:21:02.920 --> 04:21:03.920
Repairbot.

04:21:05.280 --> 04:21:06.560
Let's go.

04:21:08.920 --> 04:21:10.040
No!

04:21:10.840 --> 04:21:11.720
It's gone.

04:21:12.720 --> 04:21:13.560
Is that enough?

04:21:14.720 --> 04:21:15.720
For another run?

04:21:17.400 --> 04:21:19.520
Yeah, I think I have enough room for another run now.

04:21:19.520 --> 04:21:25.680
Hey! Another repair bot. Yo, I could snipe his scrolls, but I'm not going to.

04:21:30.440 --> 04:21:35.360
So enough pallies are out here doing this exact farm that like...

04:21:37.000 --> 04:21:40.600
Oh crap, I want to make sure I'm not vending the stuff I want to keep.

04:21:40.600 --> 04:21:52.240
I know I can like make the rune cloth into bandages to then sell for like slightly more

04:21:52.240 --> 04:21:56.140
gold but it's just not worth the time I don't think.

04:21:56.140 --> 04:22:02.660
Aquamarines are worth selling.

04:22:02.660 --> 04:22:03.980
Time is money friends.

04:22:03.980 --> 04:22:05.360
I think my scroll is worth selling.

04:22:05.360 --> 04:22:06.800
Aquamarinas we're selling.

04:22:10.560 --> 04:22:12.360
Yeah, what's nice about this is there's so many

04:22:12.360 --> 04:22:14.500
pallies out here doing this that like a lot of the time

04:22:14.500 --> 04:22:16.640
someone will drop a repair bot or you could bring

04:22:16.640 --> 04:22:18.520
your own repair bots and be that guy that helps

04:22:18.520 --> 04:22:22.080
everyone else or you could run back to the town

04:22:22.080 --> 04:22:23.680
if there isn't a repair bot.

04:22:25.040 --> 04:22:25.880
Oops.

04:22:36.320 --> 04:22:42.320
Or or or you put your hearthstone in chat wait it is in chat. What do you mean?

04:22:44.840 --> 04:22:48.560
Prop Halley's causing inflation. Oh Gabby now I'm the problem, huh?

04:22:48.600 --> 04:22:55.600
Now I'm the problem because I'm playing the game how I want to and that was my prop okay. Yep. Sorry Gabby my bad

04:22:56.360 --> 04:22:58.360
my bad

04:22:58.360 --> 04:23:06.600
Or you could get handed out one to 2,000 gold from random players.

04:23:06.600 --> 04:23:07.600
I mean that could happen.

04:23:07.600 --> 04:23:19.600
Or we could just farm our own gold with the old-fashioned way, man.

04:23:19.600 --> 04:23:21.600
Oh

04:23:40.760 --> 04:23:44.440
Old fashion way even the 2019 way yeah

04:23:44.440 --> 04:23:53.740
Use Thunderfury, dude the Caval, Merciless Caval is so good for this, it just gives you

04:23:53.740 --> 04:23:55.420
so much spell power.

04:23:55.420 --> 04:23:58.900
Bellylar just said a great video, yeah we watched it.

04:23:58.900 --> 04:24:03.540
I think I've watched like every, uh, Classic Plus, uh, actually that's not true.

04:24:03.540 --> 04:24:04.540
There's so many of them.

04:24:04.540 --> 04:24:06.380
I've watched like a lot of them though.

04:24:06.380 --> 04:24:08.460
Man, I love Pallies.

04:24:08.460 --> 04:24:12.140
This is where Pallies are fun, Pallies are fun in Dungeons, Pallies are less

04:24:12.140 --> 04:24:20.540
fun in raids I think for the most part at least are so fun like this though man

04:24:31.900 --> 04:24:36.700
go for me yo deck thanks for the problem

04:24:42.140 --> 04:24:53.820
Does nobody want to take this man to Black Temple even as an off tank?

04:24:53.820 --> 04:24:55.860
No, it's not.

04:24:55.860 --> 04:24:57.820
It's not what's going on.

04:24:57.820 --> 04:25:03.620
There's a lot of groups that want me, but it's a scheduling conflict.

04:25:03.620 --> 04:25:05.820
It's a scheduling conflict.

04:25:05.820 --> 04:25:10.420
As the main tank, there's been many groups to hit me up, many, so many that I lost

04:25:10.420 --> 04:25:16.140
actually but uh the scheduling conflicts are really getting the best of me here

04:25:16.140 --> 04:25:23.100
that's pretty much it actually I don't even really care to be black temple

04:25:23.700 --> 04:25:33.020
it's not even that big of a deal it matters to like main tank Illidan so

04:25:33.020 --> 04:25:41.120
like it would be awesome to see that fight from the main tank perspective, it's not a big deal

04:25:41.120 --> 04:25:50.100
to me. Do you think they announced Wrath this weekend? I don't know man, I feel like that's

04:25:50.100 --> 04:25:56.980
like the big thing that less people are talking about is what's happening to TBC and what's

04:25:56.980 --> 04:26:01.820
happening to Mr. Pandaria. I know a lot of people just don't care compared to the

04:26:01.820 --> 04:26:08.820
a hype of plastic plus, but like, I'm still so darn interested, man.

04:26:31.820 --> 04:27:00.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for the product dude.

04:27:01.820 --> 04:27:31.680
I'm excited. I'm excited for the con.

04:27:31.680 --> 04:27:46.760
Come on dude, I'm excited to get moving.

04:27:46.760 --> 04:27:48.960
Blue mood.

04:27:48.960 --> 04:27:54.160
Lute 5 rare quality items.

04:27:54.160 --> 04:27:55.160
Nice.

04:27:55.160 --> 04:28:04.280
Oh, I had a flask on this whole time from my raid yesterday.

04:28:04.280 --> 04:28:06.280
80.

04:28:06.280 --> 04:28:10.600
Holy damage about to go away.

04:28:10.600 --> 04:28:12.400
How much time do you need to travel to BlizzCon?

04:28:12.400 --> 04:28:13.600
It's like a one hour flight, bro.

04:28:13.600 --> 04:28:17.440
I'm in Arizona, so I'm just flying up to LAX.

04:28:17.440 --> 04:28:20.120
I should get into like, yeah, like an hour or something,

04:28:20.120 --> 04:28:20.960
pretty quick.

04:28:41.040 --> 04:28:42.200
Why am I flying into LAX

04:28:42.200 --> 04:28:45.120
and not John Wayne rookie mistake?

04:28:45.120 --> 04:28:46.580
Dude, I like John Wayne way better,

04:28:46.580 --> 04:28:49.480
but there's no flights from Tucson to John Wayne.

04:28:49.480 --> 04:28:51.480
I'd have to go to Phoenix, which is like brutal

04:28:51.480 --> 04:28:56.160
or have like a massive layover, which can also be brutal.

04:29:16.580 --> 04:29:29.960
I think I'm just gonna bubble again like last time.

04:29:29.960 --> 04:29:43.900
I think I kinda like the bubble there.

04:29:43.900 --> 04:29:51.900
I think

04:29:51.900 --> 04:30:01.900
they

04:30:01.900 --> 04:30:03.900
Gasparter, thanks for the drop, let's go to hold!

04:30:12.900 --> 04:30:15.900
Ah crap. Oh no, they all just evaded and got healed!

04:30:18.400 --> 04:30:19.400
And I have no bubble!

04:30:19.900 --> 04:30:21.400
I think we're still fine though.

04:30:21.900 --> 04:30:23.900
Yeah, I think we're still fine for sure.

04:30:28.400 --> 04:30:28.900
Pink.

04:30:29.900 --> 04:30:30.900
We're still fine.

04:30:31.900 --> 04:30:33.900
I think

04:30:43.460 --> 04:30:47.740
Okay, that was that was sketchy they all got healed from when I got knocked up on the ledge from that evade spot

04:31:01.900 --> 04:31:08.980
why not vengeance spec I could respect yeah I think that spec is a bit better

04:31:08.980 --> 04:31:15.180
there's actually like a couple points I could change but my second spec right now

04:31:15.180 --> 04:31:19.340
was a PvP one a prop highly PvP build I've been experimenting with successfully

04:31:19.340 --> 04:31:25.500
successfully experimenting with and it's been it's been a good time so I

04:31:25.500 --> 04:31:29.580
don't really have a room for a third spec right now unfortunately

04:31:31.900 --> 04:31:55.820
Okay, clean.

04:31:55.820 --> 04:31:58.220
Isn't there an add on the instant loot so you can loot faster?

04:31:58.220 --> 04:32:02.140
I have like fast looting on in nitrix plus, but maybe there's something else

04:32:02.140 --> 04:32:05.740
I don't know of someone said there's an item called like fast loot, which I think it does like the same thing

04:32:06.460 --> 04:32:12.700
But looting is like bugged right now from what I can tell when I spam loot it like stops every time

04:32:13.820 --> 04:32:16.140
So something with a new patch messed it up. I think

04:32:18.620 --> 04:32:24.620
Any interesting rares we got magisters boots and wildheart gloves, but besides that pretty standard

04:32:28.220 --> 04:32:41.900
I'm okay either way on it man.

04:32:41.900 --> 04:32:43.060
I'm okay either way.

04:32:43.060 --> 04:32:47.060
Like I'm 100% fine with no A.O.E. looting if they add it.

04:32:47.060 --> 04:32:51.720
I'm not like so much of a purist where I would be like oh gosh this is not my classic

04:32:51.720 --> 04:32:57.020
plus but yeah there's so many so many things like that that like I can go either way on

04:32:57.020 --> 04:33:05.180
It doesn't change the game enough for me to be upset about it.

04:33:05.180 --> 04:33:23.700
Okay, there is no...pender out there.

04:33:23.700 --> 04:33:24.900
My rating today?

04:33:24.900 --> 04:33:28.880
The plan was to maybe check out a Black Temple, but there was some scheduling conflicts, so

04:33:28.880 --> 04:33:37.700
um, we're actually not gonna do Black Temple due to those previously mentioned conflicts.

04:33:37.700 --> 04:33:45.020
Gotta make a Disenchant all for your Blues and Greens.

04:33:45.020 --> 04:33:46.020
I'm actually an Enchanter.

04:33:46.020 --> 04:33:47.700
I can Disenchant them here.

04:33:47.700 --> 04:33:51.540
I don't think it's worth Disenchanning, well maybe it is.

04:33:51.540 --> 04:33:57.580
I think the blues are worth this enchanting if you can't fender them for more than like

04:33:57.580 --> 04:34:06.820
four gold and then I think greens are pretty neutral, you can do either one.

04:34:06.820 --> 04:34:09.820
Oh, skull!

04:34:09.820 --> 04:34:11.820
may look a rare spawn.

04:34:39.820 --> 04:34:53.820
and it's time to go full HP. I was selling large drill for 10 G and P1. Dude, they go for like 4, 4 and a half now, 4, 4 and a half, so it's barely any net profit for...

04:34:55.820 --> 04:34:59.820
but it depends. Like, so, like this blue here...

04:35:00.820 --> 04:35:02.820
actually does this blue even give a large...

04:35:02.820 --> 04:35:09.320
charismatic I think that all blues do or oh no they might give small it's like blue

04:35:09.320 --> 04:35:19.160
weapons actually I can't quite remember I got shot across nice the silk market is

04:35:19.160 --> 04:35:22.500
like it's better than I mean you can auction it for like slightly more but

04:35:22.500 --> 04:35:29.400
yeah from level 55 onwards it gives large so these are 54 these are 52 these

04:35:29.400 --> 04:35:56.160
These are 54.

04:35:56.160 --> 04:35:58.160
Might as well just keep loading.

04:35:58.160 --> 04:36:18.480
It's one mob is like taking more time than that entire last pull man.

04:36:18.480 --> 04:36:20.080
Have they not nerfed solo dungeon farming?

04:36:20.080 --> 04:36:25.680
They actually did nerf it, but it didn't affect this one or something?

04:36:25.680 --> 04:36:30.200
I remember reading a blue pose where I was like, oh, this got nerfed.

04:36:30.200 --> 04:36:32.520
Well, this definitely still works.

04:36:32.520 --> 04:36:34.520
Source, I am still doing it.

04:36:38.120 --> 04:36:42.520
Here, let me try to disenchant this and see what it turns to.

04:36:42.520 --> 04:36:45.760
So it is large brill, which is definitely more gold.

04:36:48.480 --> 04:36:52.480
Yeah, they're all large brill.

04:36:52.480 --> 04:36:59.520
These though like I don't think this is worth like some of the greens like this vendors for 65 silver

04:37:00.480 --> 04:37:08.800
by DE it it's 39 it's like a slight increase I think but I think it's kind of a gamble on some of them

04:37:09.760 --> 04:37:12.880
like this swords have vendor for three gold 60 silver

04:37:12.880 --> 04:37:23.360
This is turned to a creator eternal so it's 5g. I don't know maybe disenchanting is better than I think

04:37:33.000 --> 04:37:38.160
It's a gamble because it's whether you get greater nether or eternal right right right

04:37:38.160 --> 04:37:44.900
Like sometimes you'll come out a little ahead sometimes you're coming a little behind it does it does save bag space, which is nice

04:37:45.960 --> 04:37:51.800
But then you have to think about like the auction house cut and if it doesn't sell and then reposting it and all that

04:37:52.160 --> 04:37:54.860
First it's just like making a gold right there

04:38:08.160 --> 04:38:23.840
Oh yeah true it is free to post it is free to post uh enchanting bats true true

04:38:38.160 --> 04:38:40.160
I

04:38:42.400 --> 04:38:44.400
Bade

04:38:52.440 --> 04:38:56.820
Any items are for 1.5p you just sell any weapons you just sell except guns

04:38:58.280 --> 04:39:02.460
The vendors for two gold. Yeah, like everyone has their own little formulas that sounds about right

04:39:08.160 --> 04:39:16.560
I tried to auction enchanting auction slips doing disenchanting greens, but I did not play the game very well

04:39:16.880 --> 04:39:18.880
rip dude

04:39:22.560 --> 04:39:24.560
What is making them I've made there I have no idea

04:39:25.400 --> 04:39:28.080
Day 16 of asking why not kill Baron for the mount?

04:39:28.080 --> 04:39:33.640
I like this willian mount even better and it's not like super time efficient to go over there. I

04:39:33.640 --> 04:39:59.240
I actually do think I could probably solo it though, I would think.

04:39:59.240 --> 04:40:07.600
for hours like it's like 250 to 350 like ish depends how like lucky you are to

04:40:07.600 --> 04:40:14.960
AOS are without parkour do you have any tips for a fun character in TBC with

04:40:14.960 --> 04:40:21.920
world PvP rogue or mage for world PvP every time there's some other fun ones

04:40:21.920 --> 04:40:28.320
but man is it fun to be a rogue or a mage in world PvP when I did on my

04:40:28.320 --> 04:40:32.820
Polly is like two to three in a chain hour. Yeah, that's still about right. Nice. I ran all the way through this time

04:40:58.320 --> 04:41:15.320
I don't even think I need to bubble this time around for whatever reason, nice.

04:41:15.320 --> 04:41:33.360
The problem with Warlock World PvP is you're not very mobile.

04:41:33.360 --> 04:41:37.100
Robes can literally like, you can mess with people and then even if they bring their friends

04:41:37.100 --> 04:41:41.280
you just vanish out, it's like so sick.

04:41:41.280 --> 04:41:46.280
You can always just slow and run forever, no matter what.

04:41:46.280 --> 04:41:53.280
The loft are really good, but there's like five dudes to gank you.

04:41:53.280 --> 04:41:56.280
You can't really just banish out like a rogue good.

04:42:11.280 --> 04:42:24.040
Why is it not bad?

04:42:24.040 --> 04:42:28.740
Why do I need the gold for?

04:42:28.740 --> 04:42:30.360
I was just stacking up some gold.

04:42:30.360 --> 04:42:37.840
I've spent like 2,000 gold in the last 10 days of raiding and I haven't made any.

04:42:37.840 --> 04:42:40.600
I went from like 3,000 down to 1,000.

04:42:42.240 --> 04:42:44.580
Just from buying random consumes.

04:42:45.600 --> 04:42:48.000
Now we're back up to 1,800.

04:42:48.000 --> 04:42:50.340
And I have a bunch of stuff to sell too, so.

04:42:54.920 --> 04:42:56.400
As a Pali, it's not too bad.

04:42:56.400 --> 04:42:59.880
Like since you can do this, it's like a raid

04:42:59.880 --> 04:43:03.320
with a flask being 100 gold and like food and everything.

04:43:03.320 --> 04:43:06.880
Like I could probably raid for like 150 gold on a Pali

04:43:06.880 --> 04:43:09.540
Assuming I'm not using like too many nightmare seeds.

04:43:11.620 --> 04:43:12.920
Plus repair bill.

04:43:12.920 --> 04:43:14.360
I mean, I guess it depends how many times

04:43:14.360 --> 04:43:16.400
we wipe and this and that.

04:43:16.400 --> 04:43:17.240
Maybe a little more,

04:43:17.240 --> 04:43:19.000
because I'll find you the FAP and iron shield.

04:43:19.000 --> 04:43:21.460
Maybe close to two-winner gold.

04:43:21.460 --> 04:43:24.740
So it's basically like, if this is 50 G a run,

04:43:26.280 --> 04:43:28.680
maybe three or four runs will pay for a raid.

04:43:28.680 --> 04:43:41.400
Didn't they nerf solo farms like this dude I was saying like I swear they did but I can

04:43:41.400 --> 04:44:00.600
still do it so maybe not.

04:44:00.600 --> 04:44:06.440
boots that'll be basically 5g

04:44:07.720 --> 04:44:16.400
cool I think they nerf the one pull in here interesting now there was another

04:44:16.400 --> 04:44:21.880
nerf after it could talk I thought at least it went from the mage farm to the

04:44:21.880 --> 04:44:27.360
Pali farm true the reality is if you nerf the Pali farm it'll turn into like

04:44:27.360 --> 04:44:34.360
a hunter farm or something else. Like players will always find a way.

04:44:37.440 --> 04:44:44.440
Oh, field repair bot. Go, go, go, go, go!

04:44:48.480 --> 04:44:52.480
Scroll of strength, I actually might buy back.

04:44:52.480 --> 04:44:56.880
Um...

04:45:05.360 --> 04:45:07.200
Um...

04:45:09.200 --> 04:45:11.200
Okay, I think I'm gonna DE the rest of this stuff.

04:45:13.840 --> 04:45:15.840
Or Auction House the rest.

04:45:15.840 --> 04:45:19.040
The Skrulls' All Auction House, the Greens' All DE.

04:45:19.040 --> 04:45:25.040
The Aquamarina auction house.

04:45:25.040 --> 04:45:31.040
Yeah, that looks about right.

04:45:31.040 --> 04:45:32.040
Cool.

04:45:32.040 --> 04:45:43.040
I've actually been getting pretty lucky with the repairbots from the other paladins, nice.

04:45:43.040 --> 04:45:58.000
guys we got banned they think I'm a bot rip nope nevermind just ran disconnect

04:45:58.000 --> 04:46:27.080
Okay let's do it. So this turns into one gold into like one gold fifty silver. This turns

04:46:27.080 --> 04:46:36.480
into, oh that was like 70 silver into 5 gold. Man it's just such a gamble on the disconnect

04:46:36.480 --> 04:46:43.840
on the disenchance. 4 gold 50 silver so this goes for 3 gold and it just turned into this

04:46:43.840 --> 04:46:50.180
which goes for 5. It seems like disenchanting is worth it like most of the time with the

04:46:50.180 --> 04:46:58.040
prices right now so that's pretty good I guess.

04:46:58.040 --> 04:47:03.920
Read cord.

04:47:03.920 --> 04:47:05.480
Want my gold I quit months ago.

04:47:05.480 --> 04:47:10.960
Guys I have a friend that's offering me free gold because he quit.

04:47:10.960 --> 04:47:18.240
Um look I don't really take handouts is the thing you know I'm a self-made man.

04:47:18.240 --> 04:47:23.020
All right, like I'm a self-made gamer. I don't really know how much gold you have

04:47:40.960 --> 04:47:42.960
Getting kind of worked here

04:47:48.240 --> 04:47:54.840
The thing is, guys, if I accept gold, it tarnishes my sterling reputation of this character being

04:47:54.840 --> 04:47:55.840
self-made.

04:47:55.840 --> 04:47:58.840
That's the thing, right?

04:47:58.840 --> 04:48:13.840
I'll take it for you, don't worry.

04:48:13.840 --> 04:48:37.360
over qualified, there we go.

04:48:37.360 --> 04:48:53.640
It's like two or two or three hundred golden hour with this yeah

04:48:54.840 --> 04:49:01.440
The add-on for achievements is big number good. I was just kind of testing it. It's kind of kind of a cool concept

04:49:03.160 --> 04:49:05.160
Release this our files

04:49:05.160 --> 04:49:07.160
True.

04:49:11.160 --> 04:49:17.420
Can you do this on a mage? I don't know if you can do this farm on a mage. This seems kind of tough on a mage.

04:49:35.160 --> 04:50:03.360
All right.

04:50:03.360 --> 04:50:05.760
What's your opinion on the WoW token being added to Classic Plus?

04:50:05.760 --> 04:50:09.800
I definitely do not want the WoW token.

04:50:09.800 --> 04:50:18.200
It actually is kind of a complicated conversation because people buy gold anyway and the WoW token...

04:50:18.200 --> 04:50:19.200
What was the argument?

04:50:19.200 --> 04:50:25.960
Like the WoW token makes it less inflated because of the numbers or something?

04:50:25.960 --> 04:50:28.760
But like, I don't know, I still don't like it.

04:50:28.760 --> 04:50:30.160
It just feels so weird.

04:50:30.160 --> 04:50:33.900
I think in an ideal world no one buys gold and no one...

04:50:34.820 --> 04:50:37.200
over here, her singer.

04:50:37.200 --> 04:50:39.580
No one buys gold and no one will token.

04:50:39.580 --> 04:50:43.120
So an ideal world like Closer gets better at banning bots.

04:50:43.120 --> 04:50:46.020
There's less bots, there's less...

04:50:49.660 --> 04:50:52.220
Cold Buyers, less cold sellers.

04:50:52.220 --> 04:50:53.660
That would just all own, but...

04:50:54.780 --> 04:50:55.760
... I'll see.

04:50:55.760 --> 04:51:07.040
I've actually made the claim that I think that Blizzard should crack down on gold buyers

04:51:07.040 --> 04:51:11.040
harder.

04:51:11.040 --> 04:51:14.000
Sorry guys, I do.

04:51:14.000 --> 04:51:20.520
The people buying gold right now, if you get caught, it's like a slap on the wrist, like

04:51:20.520 --> 04:51:24.560
I think if you get caught buying gold, like remember back in the day bro, if you got

04:51:24.560 --> 04:51:29.520
caught buying gold your account was gone like it was brutal people were afraid it

04:51:29.520 --> 04:51:34.160
was scary nowadays people just buy gold and if you get caught it's like oh like

04:51:34.160 --> 04:51:38.000
two weeks whatever like I think there should be way less tolerance for gold

04:51:38.000 --> 04:51:41.880
buyers I want people to be scared again to buy gold so that people don't buy

04:51:41.880 --> 04:51:46.640
gold so that there's way less demand and that helps fix the economy a little

04:51:46.640 --> 04:51:53.600
bit I think that'd be sick but it's not even two weeks how how would you

04:51:53.600 --> 04:51:55.600
No, how long is it?

04:52:11.760 --> 04:52:13.760
Says the streamer with benefits

04:52:15.000 --> 04:52:21.560
True counter-argument. I play most of my characters self-found and I'm currently farming gold

04:52:23.600 --> 04:52:35.600
but still true still a fair point 21 fire damage it's actually a lot of fire

04:52:35.600 --> 04:52:37.840
damage

04:52:43.040 --> 04:52:47.040
what if you were a warrior I was actually thinking about that like what would I do

04:52:47.040 --> 04:52:52.320
if I was like if I'm because I've always played like mages you get a we farm or

04:52:52.320 --> 04:52:56.760
Pallies you get a we farm or like I mean I guess I have done professions in the past

04:52:56.760 --> 04:53:00.220
I used to do a lot of gold making with inscription and with jewel crafting

04:53:01.000 --> 04:53:03.560
Trying to think what I would do if I was like a warrior. I

04:53:04.560 --> 04:53:06.560
Probably pick up a profession

04:53:07.760 --> 04:53:09.760
Tank for gold

04:53:11.280 --> 04:53:13.280
Will tank for gold

04:53:14.700 --> 04:53:19.200
Starving warrior out here sell PvP carries. Yeah, true

04:53:19.200 --> 04:53:26.200
I actually think that it's one of the most lucrative ways to make gold in World of Warcraft.

04:53:26.200 --> 04:53:32.200
If you're good at the game you just sell carries. It is disgustingly lucrative.

04:53:34.200 --> 04:53:39.200
You sell mid-plus carries, raiding carries.

04:53:39.200 --> 04:53:44.200
Dude, the raiders in retail make so much gold from raid carries. It's wild.

04:53:49.200 --> 04:54:18.720
This pull is definitely looking a little shaky here.

04:54:18.720 --> 04:54:44.720
I don't know why this pool is so troll, I think it's going to work out for us though.

04:54:44.720 --> 04:54:58.200
Nice.

04:54:58.200 --> 04:54:59.200
What's healing me?

04:54:59.200 --> 04:55:01.020
It's just my Tranger, bro.

04:55:01.020 --> 04:55:07.040
After getting handed 7k for flying or 23 to 28 hours of farming, that's 3.5 to 4 full

04:55:07.040 --> 04:55:09.400
streams and only farming gold, you would never do that content nowadays.

04:55:09.400 --> 04:55:15.800
I mean, fair enough, like, gold farming content isn't as fun to do as some other content that we could be doing.

04:55:15.800 --> 04:55:17.300
Like, yeah, I guess that's true.

04:55:22.300 --> 04:55:24.500
And all of this is possible because of one trinket.

04:55:25.200 --> 04:55:25.700
Yeah.

04:55:26.600 --> 04:55:29.500
I do think it's possible without figuring out a Colossus.

04:55:29.500 --> 04:55:31.300
You would just have to pull, like, a little smaller.

04:55:31.300 --> 04:55:34.300
Like, right now, we're doing the dungeon in three pulls.

04:55:34.300 --> 04:55:41.780
If I had like a little better gear, so like a couple more pieces of tier six, and I didn't have this trinket

04:55:41.780 --> 04:55:45.080
Like I actually think it is still possible. You just have to play like a little

04:55:45.560 --> 04:55:50.580
More careful maybe instead of three pulls you would four and you would have to like bubble heal

04:55:50.580 --> 04:55:52.660
And like maybe use some more consumes and stuff

04:55:52.660 --> 04:55:57.560
But it would probably be like like we're pretty close to being able to do the pulls without the trinket in other words

04:55:57.560 --> 04:56:06.360
Try it without the trinket? Well, like you can basically just see, right? Like when I'm

04:56:06.360 --> 04:56:10.240
doing the pull, like that first pull, I think it's pretty doable without the trinket. Like

04:56:10.240 --> 04:56:15.920
we almost everything is dead by the time we pump it, right? That third pull is a big one.

04:56:15.920 --> 04:56:17.920
I'm sure it gets pretty clutched

04:56:35.680 --> 04:56:37.580
Oh

04:56:37.580 --> 04:56:42.540
Arena boost on this Pali. I don't know if I'm gonna be the one selling the boost on this Pali man

04:56:42.920 --> 04:56:45.160
But yeah, this Pali is

04:56:45.920 --> 04:56:51.400
Definitely not in boosting shape right now, unfortunately.

04:56:51.400 --> 04:56:57.920
Definitely not.

04:56:57.920 --> 04:57:03.920
I think that might have been my full lockout.

04:57:03.920 --> 04:57:12.120
Yeah, we're full locked out.

04:57:12.120 --> 04:57:16.460
Milidari rune shield black temple trash sick

04:57:33.120 --> 04:57:35.120
1850

04:57:35.120 --> 04:57:41.320
They've lost the stuff to vendor. Let's go to Stormwind.

04:57:41.320 --> 04:57:48.240
Are we allowed to stream BlizzCon? I don't know exactly how it works. I think so.

04:57:48.240 --> 04:57:56.640
If I don't BT yet and Annie, I've only killed the first three bosses. It's just super hard to

04:57:56.640 --> 04:58:01.280
find a daytime raid team. I've cleared Haishul and I've done three bosses of Black Temple.

04:58:01.280 --> 04:58:07.680
Like I said, if I were to do it again, I'd probably just play in Europe since there's like a million Europe raids that happen right now

04:58:08.120 --> 04:58:10.120
But yeah, I'm in a it's like

04:58:10.760 --> 04:58:15.360
brutal like if you look at any of these groups and trade chat or discord

04:58:15.440 --> 04:58:20.680
They're all at like 6 p.m. Server right like in the evening, which makes sense like people work that the

04:58:21.400 --> 04:58:27.360
The raids happen at night, but I haven't found like basically any daytime raids

04:58:31.280 --> 04:58:38.280
Greetings.

04:58:38.280 --> 04:58:45.280
Greetings.

04:58:45.280 --> 04:59:03.200
That's nice.

04:59:03.200 --> 04:59:04.200
That's nice.

04:59:04.200 --> 04:59:06.400
That's nice.

04:59:06.400 --> 04:59:10.080
making bandages with ring cloth if you're vendering I respectfully completely

04:59:10.080 --> 04:59:15.280
disagree respectfully because of the time it takes to make the bandages and

04:59:15.280 --> 04:59:22.520
time is money friends okay and it does net a profit but I don't think the

04:59:22.520 --> 04:59:25.560
profit is worth the time

04:59:36.400 --> 04:59:43.800
Well between yesterday's runs and today's runs I mean we were at like 1100 gold

04:59:43.800 --> 04:59:51.920
there for a second and now we're at 1866 with a ton of stuff to sell. Probably

04:59:51.920 --> 04:59:57.440
put us like 19 or gold. I am not mad about that.

04:59:59.720 --> 05:00:05.120
Eight stacks of one. Let's do that.

05:00:06.400 --> 05:00:15.280
How much are dark ruins on my realm like six geopop people have been doing like scoloman's farming, but I haven't really tried that

05:00:22.760 --> 05:00:25.600
Six gold for a scroll of strength what

05:00:30.600 --> 05:00:32.600
Wow

05:00:32.600 --> 05:00:39.600
It's crazy.

05:00:39.600 --> 05:01:00.280
Dude, this 15 stamina gem still hasn't sold, brah.

05:01:00.280 --> 05:01:01.620
I feel like such an idiot.

05:01:06.580 --> 05:01:08.020
Yeah, I don't know how much all of that adds to,

05:01:08.020 --> 05:01:10.500
but probably like another 50 or something.

05:01:11.860 --> 05:01:13.060
Not bad, not bad.

05:01:14.020 --> 05:01:15.380
Ever been an auction house flipper?

05:01:15.380 --> 05:01:16.900
Yeah, I actually have been.

05:01:16.900 --> 05:01:18.060
I actually have a little,

05:01:18.060 --> 05:01:19.260
I've told this story before,

05:01:19.260 --> 05:01:21.900
but this is actually kind of like a,

05:01:21.900 --> 05:01:25.860
a complete troll situation that happened to me.

05:01:25.860 --> 05:01:28.500
So I was, I don't remember what expansion,

05:01:28.500 --> 05:01:29.900
I think it was like TBC or Wrath.

05:01:29.900 --> 05:01:34.900
I was quite young and I wanted to learn how to make gold on WoW.

05:01:34.900 --> 05:01:42.380
So I guess back up, in RuneScape, what I did to make gold in RuneScape was played like Bot Low,

05:01:42.380 --> 05:01:44.820
sold high, that's what I like to do in RuneScape.

05:01:44.820 --> 05:01:49.020
I'd buy like a D-Helm for like 800k and sell it for like 1.1 mil.

05:01:49.020 --> 05:01:50.660
And I'm like, woohoo, we made some money.

05:01:50.660 --> 05:01:52.420
Like I just thought it was fun.

05:01:52.420 --> 05:01:56.740
I actually showed that to my dad and he thought it was kind of cool because I was like 12 or 10 or something.

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And he's like, oh wow, there's like an economy and everything.

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Anyway, I started playing WoW and I was quite young

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and I started doing the same thing.

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But I wasn't very good at it in WoW,

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because WoW's economy seemed to be a lot more complex.

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I was like, what the heck?

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So I met a friend along the way,

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and he seemed to not speak super great English,

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but for some reason, I knew he was always selling stuff

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in trade shots, so I started talking to him.

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Like, where are you getting all this stuff?

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And he goes, oh, I'm buying it and reselling it.

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And I was like, what?

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We gotta be friends, bro.

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So I started talking to this guy,

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I added them to my friends list

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and he started helping me on what to buy and sell.

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So he told me to start buying things like enchanting mats

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or like low level items

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that like people would use to level up professions.

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And I was like, really, this is gonna sell no way.

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But I listened to him and it worked.

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I actually started making like hundreds of gold,

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which at the time was like a good amount.

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I was like, oh my gosh, this guy's a legend.

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He told me exactly what to buy, what to sell it for.

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and it was great, like this guy owned.

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And then as I started making more gold,

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he started teaching me to buy bigger items.

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So like as I made like a couple thousand gold,

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I started buying blues and epics, like high level stuff.

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And it worked, I made even more gold, it was great.

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And then I started making like a lot of gold,

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like many, many thousands, which was like,

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I was like kind of rich for the time.

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I was like, this is awesome.

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I was all thanks to my friend who taught me what to buy and what to sell. It was legendary. I think this was maybe end of wrath

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I want to say

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Can't quite exactly remember I think end of wrath era

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But it was pretty cool. All right. I talked to this guy a lot back and forth. He taught me a lot

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anyway, I was going out of town for the weekend and

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One of the big lessons that he taught me was like as you

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make more gold you have the potential to make more gold because with the gold you

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can buy bigger things and make a margin on a larger item so that was a good

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lesson right if you have gold you can make more gold I was like great that's

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pretty cool I can you know use that to to my advantage anyway I was going out

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of town for the weekend and since I knew that took gold to make gold he

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he actually, he asked if I could, if he could take all of my gold for the weekend and use

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it to flip items and he would give me half of whatever he made from my gold stack and

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I was like, sure man, I'll give you all my items too and see if you can sell them and

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all my gold because like I said, this guy taught me everything and I made, I think

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it was like tens of thousands of gold at that point, it was a lot of money for the

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time and I had a ton of like epic items it was great like I was I was rolling

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in tow and I went away for the weekend I gave him everything didn't even think

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about it came back

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dudes gone the final lesson he took everything he took it all and all my

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gold all my items gone. It was brutal. One final lesson to not trust strangers on the internet.

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The good news is I continued doing what he taught me and I made all the gold back.

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I went in the cataclysm eventually, used that same gold farming method to flip dark moon cards

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and to flip trading card mounts like Magic Rooster and some of the TCG, like, limited mounts,

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and I ended up making hundreds of thousands of gold and then buying myself a Magic Rooster

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and some other trading card game items, and that's how I made gold. So he actually taught me a lot

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about making gold and wow through flipping items. And stole everything I have or had.

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Show us the rooster. It's on my retail account. Yeah, I could show it. Why don't you do that now?

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I haven't done it in a long time. I'd have to probably relearn a lot of it, but I guess I could.

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That was what I loved to do in WoW. I was a gold maker for a long time. That is a lot of what I did

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in my early WoW years was make gold. I did AoE farming, I did high sell low, I did jewel

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crafting, I did inscription, I just logged in and made gold all day. Actually, there's

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probably no one here, but from my first few streams in 2012, they were actually gold making

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streams, they weren't even PvP streams. I would just log in, turn my stream on, I'd

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have like one viewer, like three viewers, and I would just buy and sell things and show

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my process of making gold. That was like, that was actually what we did for a little

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bit. And we started forming rank one titles instead and people found that much more interesting.

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So yeah, all of that to say, if anyone has any extra gold laying around and you want

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me to make gold for you, I'll take all your gold and items, and just let me know.

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Um, yeah, cool.

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Trust me, bro.

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Oh, gosh.

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Dude, I have way too much fun with streaming sometimes.

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It's actually just the best.

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just mess around with you guys all day, that is great.

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Okay, I think that's about it.

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I think it's about right.

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Yo, Kaasin, thanks for the problem.

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Whoa!

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

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Whoa, holy gravy!

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holy gravy whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa yeah I was kidding man you

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should keep your gold thank you but it's all it's all good really slash love

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what a legend bro um oh my gosh oh my gosh what a beast what a beast streamer

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privilege, man. I actually think that streamer privilege doesn't exist, but that's a very

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long conversation that we'll save for another time, because it's hard to explain. That's

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That's why, yep.

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Turns out all the hot takes can't be explained.

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Well, no, like I said, I could explain it, just now is not the time because it's hard

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to explain. So that's what's going on there. But I could if I wanted. I don't really feel

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like it. What is your take on new race class combos? I think new race class combos where

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they make sense is probably fine, yeah. I don't want new classes, but new race class

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combos I think are pretty chill. Longest I not like super overboard. Any upgrades? We got those

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tier six gloves and they are absolutely disgustingly overpowered man. These things are legit.

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Alright guys, we're ending it quite early today.

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I am going to chill for a bit, pack up and get ready for my flight tomorrow morning.

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The next time you see me will be at the LISKON.

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Oh my gosh!

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Oh my gosh!

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Oh my gosh, I can't wait.

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I can't wait.

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Oh my gosh, I can't wait.

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I'll be streaming live there. The meet and greet is Saturday

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evening ish. I'll put the details. If you miss them, they were on the

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blue post from today. I'll put them in my discord and on Twitter as well.

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So I'll see you at the meet and greet if you want to say hi.

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I'll be streaming here. I think I'll also be streaming on Twitch and YouTube.

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I'm trying to get the multi stream details set up to stream live from the con.

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I'll be there Saturday, Sunday, of course, for the event.

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I'll be flying home Monday, so no stream Monday and we'll see how I'm feeling Tuesday

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Um, are you streaming opening ceremony? I think I should be yeah

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Save travels. Thank you guys. Thanks for all the support all the love

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Thanks for hanging with me today and always isn't did it's a good time just uh

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Hang out chill out. I'm good time man, so I

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Will see you guys live from blizzcon in two days

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round here peace