Hold, hold, and we're live.
Good morning chats.
Good morning chats.
Good morning chats.
Good morning chat.
Today is going to be a little bit different than some normal streams.
We're starting right away in a little podcast round table format with a bunch of other streamers.
talking about forever and then we're gonna listen to devs talk about forever
and then we're gonna play the beta for forever today is packed no time for
starting soon at all we're here in real life you look freshly showered bro my
morning was ridiculous my morning was absolutely ridiculous man absolutely
ridiculous we got amp here too I'm gonna bring amp here and it is I had my
Timezone's wrong or something is what's going on ampie bringing it ampie ampie's joining us
Oh ampie has to mute himself though we can hear ampie typing
Actually, I wonder if I could just mute myself too
you. Ampy, you gotta mute yourself. Ampy, click mute mic on video. Alright. What time
does this start? Uh, soon. Soon. Okay, I think Ampy, I think Ampy. W. Ampy muted himself.
Okay, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Are we live on YouTube?
We're live on YouTube, we're live on Twitch.
We got this set up.
We're gonna start this little thing in like a minute here.
She's Louise.
Where's Peek-a-boo?
Peek-a-boo's sleeping.
Who else?
We could get more people in here.
I wonder if they invited Pay-O.
We were talking about getting Pay-O in here yesterday.
Let me get that set up.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Nice, guys I thought we were gonna go live
in like an hour from now or something?
And then I guess I had my time zones
running the whole time, they were talking Texas time.
I'm on like West Coast time.
So I'm just like, huh, what's going on?
So anyway, I was out on a family walk with my wife and son
and then like all of a sudden I get back
And they're like, we're going live.
And I'm like, what do we mean?
We have another hour and a half, right?
So anyway, we're here.
We made it.
We made it.
We made it.
Q&A is in an hour.
So we're going to do a little roundtable with a bunch of
wow streamers for one hour.
And then we're going to check out the Q&A and then go from
there.
People in the chat are already building a classic UI.
W, guys.
Holy crap.
That's going to be sick.
That is going to be sick.
My my discord DMs are closed guys, but of course the discord is open if you guys want to chat in there
Curse forage classic UI for forever. Oh my gosh you guys own
People are already building it. Yes, I'm gonna need that sick. Thanks guys
No, five things for the prime. Let's go. Wow forever. Hi guys, this is gonna be nuts nuts nuts nuts
nuts nuts nuts nuts nuts nuts well class I'm playing magemen payo please
let me see should we should we get pay on here
all right I'm asking I'm asking for she a pay on here one sec
Oh guys, good morning. Wow. What a what a morning? What a morning? What a morning?
What a morning
Guys, I woke up this I hold on hold on. Let me okay. Never mind never mind
Yeah, never mind never mind never mind we're good
We're good
We're good. We're good. We're good. Yeah, we're doing this up very soon guys very very soon
There's already a class of TY add-on made. Oh, I love it. I love it. I'm of course using that
Of course using it
Drop the countdown in the middle guys. Where is the countdown this anyone? I was looking for this
Where is the countdown? Is there a website that has a countdown for the beta because I was looking all over and I couldn't find it
Wow forever tools has a countdown. Oh it does. Okay. Let me get this up then
I was looking for like two minutes and I was like, well, that's all we've got.
I don't know where to put this.
I guess we're putting it right there.
Doesn't look that good in any spot.
I could put it over soda.
That might be kind of nice.
We set this up like two minutes, man.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go, there we go.
Alright.
Should we start the voice call?
I'm just gonna, I'm gonna call it up.
Let's do this thing.
Good morning.
Good morning!
Fuckin' finally there you are!
You're gonna die!
Damn!
Bro, I thought it was PST, guys.
I thought it was PST.
My bad.
Morning!
No, not you, Savics.
Look, he's still in the van, sir.
This guy sucks.
Yes, yes.
Savics is definitely, definitely dragging his feet here.
It's unbelievable.
I agree.
I mean, I'm sitting here.
I know Ampy's trying to optimize his sleep.
He got up early for this.
Ampy, how many hours is he streaming, bro?
You're gonna go like 30 in a row?
Finally, I agree with that.
I'd be done with beta.
It's a total of 20.
True, true, true.
Yeah, I was just talking.
Everyone good?
I mean, I lost someone's cam.
Joker, I just lost Joker's cam.
I had to refresh a couple of cameras.
All I did was frozen.
I'm too.
Joker, you passed away.
Well, Joker, we lost your camera.
Well, you lost my camera.
Yeah, yes.
I was back.
You got to refresh the page, because I had to do that a couple times.
Savage, we got to do something about this quality here.
What's up?
This is some pixelated.
How about that?
We lost you again.
No, they're good.
It's gracious.
That's better.
Actually, now we got a delay.
You guys have a delay.
Yes.
No.
So that you can put all the links into like my browser sources into your OBS.
Like and you just start streaming like yesterday man. What's going on?
Well, that's why we started doing this bullshit plan, but yeah, no, we're going back to the original give me a second
Can everyone leave their shit right now just to clear this new streamer is not what he just makes us insane
Who's the deal with
Savics on the thing I know but this
Everyone's out
Oh
Let him do it and we can get into shit everyone link their shit. Let me link mine as well
How are we this late and unprepared? This is this is embarrassing
Are you guys streaming already?
Yeah, I'm installing still
You're like one of the most competent how you downloading now
I got three hours, bro, all right, all right. Okay. Okay, we got Joker back. Joker's bad.
Back, back, back. Oh, you got to meet yourself, brother. Meet yourself. Okay, are we all good?
Volume check on everyone. We're all good to go. I'm still adding things, but I'm good.
I'm here nice and early and ready to go so I mean, I'm ready to start whenever
Savics my apologies for I had the time zone wrong
I thought for sure it was not like till 930 pst
And I was just out at the park with Shannon the kaij kind of chilling and then you guys were saying it's this
I'm like racing home in this and that so that's my bad
right there. It rained here in Tucson, so there was like a bunch of water. It was great.
It was good. Oh, yeah. Okay. Cool.
You guys said mediasaurus? I've never streamed before.
OBS. You need to do a browser.
Are you playing stupid or no?
This is insane. This is insane.
Let me get Sardaco.
So you guys are putting every single person's browser source into your OBS. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay
It's just miserable really Savick's did this. So blame him
No, no, no, I was in the off cam, but Joker made a suggestion
He's like, why don't we do a call before it releases and I was like, you know, let's sure and everyone kind of agreed
Amazing it's way better for like you were correctly viewers, but it's just like
Okay, hold on. At the very top of your video ninja where you see your camera
Sardakos, see the green bullshit? Click it.
Yeah, I linked it. Should be there. All right, let's try that. Maybe I did the wrong one.
Testing. Here we go.
Bro, you fucked it up somehow. You fucked it up.
No, let me try the other one. You linked two. You're just linking 18 different things, man.
All right. Well, I mean, I'm ready. I don't know if y'all are good. I'm good to go. I'm good to go. Yeah
We're ready. We are ready. Everyone's good ready shake. Do do do
I'm not ready
Okay, I'll get it
No, we're locked in. Let's get it
Dude, I'm so excited goodness gracious. We have what like an hour now
We have less than an hour because some people were late not naming any names, but we got 50 minutes. I think
and it's also going to be the Q&A, what the fuck is that?
Yeah, that's where the answer question is from the chat.
I have Savix with the countdown as well, he's locked in.
Yeah, I had the countdown.
Very dialed. Very, very dialed.
That's why I'm getting my ass all the time, when the Bega dies up, no idea.
Oh man.
Can you link your thingamajig?
Sure, why not?
Mm-hmm
Yeah, I'm just adding these savics and I'm just putting them above the overlay that you've had I'm just gonna hide your fucking overlay
Like this this screen that you added it's pointless. It's just griefing everything. Sure. I'm just adding the cams. Yeah, I fucked up
Fuck that and that's a delay. That's crazy. It shouldn't oh my goodness. It's only like a second though
Yeah, that second gets real obnoxious
Yeah, when you're yapping, right?
All right, I mean, I'm good ready check. I'll be it. Go, man
How are you saying that I was waiting for you for look at the smiley
All right, ready check ready check. Let's have a check. Yes. We're good. We're ready to go
Ladies and gentlemen, cameras are rolling.
Welcome into another episode.
Today, we have Soda Pop and Zahriyu Jokered.
All of us are darko guys.
Give a big smile and wave.
We got a big day and a lot to talk about.
Let's just go right off the rip
since we have the beta coming out soon.
How did you guys feel when Blizzard finally announced
that Classic Forever is coming out?
And what were your reactions like
watching the cinematic trailer?
Not it.
I was very shocked and very excited. I mean I was like wow and then everyone is like wow give Zara an Oscar and like look guys I
Like we didn't know it was called wow forever. There was so much we never saw that trailer we didn't see any of that so I was freaking out and everyone's like wow nice Oscar performance it's all the streamers so I don't know I was very excited.
Dude going back and watching you LARP Zari was the funniest fucking thing ever.
You're a hater. What do you mean?
I am. Oh, absolutely. You're larking.
Dude, guys, I sure hope we get this.
Guys, wouldn't it be great if we got this?
It was a hater. I don't know what he's talking about.
But but everyone knew it was larking, too.
But you still confidently did it.
Honestly, it's an acting.
It's impressive. Really good.
I don't know what you guys are talking about in terms of
I don't know what larking means.
I'm not a good actor, but I'm very excited to see you.
Depends on here.
we did not know about the trailer at all. I was watching it and it's embarrassing to say but
I got a little bit emotional because we waited so long for this and that little wist coming in
taking that dwarf to the different directions saying don't go there. If you go that route you're
going to go in shadow lands and then you take you to the classic forever where y'all are like dude
this is so good. It's pretty cool yeah. Yeah. Change you to the direction and stuff. Exactly.
it. There is an argument you know a lot of people it's too Disney and you know there is some I do
wish it was a little more to it and I see a lot of people talking about that and then somehow
some somehow that discussion segues into just hating gay people on Twitter I don't know how
so I don't really enjoy feeding into that too much but there is there is some correctness to it
But that's that's my opinion on the whole wow is Disney now. I just I agree, but I think feeding into it
Wait, do you guys all feel that because I thought different for this one at least?
I thought the scene where they're in the grass and they're kind of rolling around in the grass
I can see what people were saying in that scene
But when the undead Pali came out and it's like, you know an undead stomping and like it like went pretty hard there
So like a lot of it I think was fine
But like the grass scene like maybe a little you know
I want to bring up the point where you know Holly made that joke of like all we wish we didn't call it Warcraft
But I think she understood and in this blissful announcement
She was like we're bringing the war back and then they started playing the Warcraft 3 trailer
Did that trailer was actual? It was an actual war. I thought that was amazing
I thought that was classic plus for a second. I was like what the hell is this?
Did you guys play the Warcraft 3 campaign?
Not yet anyone. I want to not yet
My oh man, it's so good, and I guess that goes into the next question, but dude they introduce
Dark Rangers we should have gotten
Forsaken elves man in Highborn, but that would have been sick. I would have been sick
I think I think if I was working at Blizzard I'd be kicking myself in the foot
I would I wish it was forsaken elves and high elves and also I wish we didn't call it Warcraft fucking forever
there's a name to be I mean it's so easy to say it now in hindsight now that
everyone's okay I remember scratching my head on what the fuck should this be
called I don't know it's not my job and I haven't think tanked it but I don't know
why would turn all would have worked why we turn it he would have worked fog ever
worked fog yeah I just call it fog ever just in general it's funny
That's great. I love that.
Names are just so hard, though, because, like, wow,
the kernel is, I mean, it might be a little better,
but it's still like, eh, it's a tough thing to name.
I don't really like Forever either,
but it's like, what do you name it?
I mean, I would name it like Classic Plus, I don't know.
It doesn't really matter.
You can do Classic Plus.
You can do Classic Plus.
I know, I know, right, exactly.
It's just, like, impossible.
Going back, how do you guys feel about the Skyborne?
Like, the name is already done.
I do think Eternal was good, but yeah, go ahead, Zara.
Okay, I actually I raised my hand. I don't know if that's proper
Okay, first of all how cool is this that we're all like right here and we are all just at blizzcon together
That's wild. Holy crap. I know this is still feels like I know sick
Um, I think I only saw three of you
No, sir, I saw you for half a second. Yeah, I just saw how you were like, I don't think I saw you once man
Well, we ran the dungeon together
That was hard.
That was the sink.
What did y'all, I mean, I know WoW Forever's coming around, but what did y'all get to
do with BlizzCon?
I had to leave early and I feel bad about it.
Any parties, anything cool?
I didn't even go in Sunday.
I was sleeping.
Okay.
I mean, he, what?
Dude.
I'm not being good.
What do you want, man?
I'm tired.
Aw, man.
Sleep on there, man.
World's first level 60.
I'm just tired.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
But yeah, Skyborne was super good.
I'm sorry, Zork.
About Skyborne, are we?
Yeah, yeah, let's continue on.
OK, so with Skyborne, I think I agree with you guys.
Like a kind of a missed opportunity
just to a high elf and a forsaken elf,
because that would have been so, so, so cool.
With the Skyborne, like here's the thing.
At some point, they have to make up more lower
and do new stuff.
That was the whole point of, wow, forever,
is that they wanted creative freedom to say, OK,
This isn't going to affect the lore of the rest of World of Warcraft.
It's not going to affect the lore of retail.
It's not going to retcon Warcraft 3.
No, we're going to be in a separate universe.
Like, that's cool, all right?
But I don't think they needed to build the lore here.
When you already have lore with like a high elf or like a forsaken elf,
like a Sylvanus, it would have just been already cool.
So like, I appreciate the fact that we're in a parallel world
where we can have creative freedom to make up lore.
But I don't know if we needed it this early.
Having said that, I do really like elves.
I actually don't hate them as much as everyone on the internet.
I think they look kind of cool, but I like elves,
but I think it could have definitely
been a high-elf and a forsaken elf instead.
So.
OK.
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of the same take on that.
I actually think they're great.
They look great.
But I feel like it doesn't mesh quite as well
as a different option.
But I mean.
I think a lot of people, I didn't realize this,
have this feeling that they look like Kyrian like shadow lands like the you know the Kyrian area and
Exactly and they have this like PTSD from shadow lands because shadow lands retconned everything
and it's like screw the shadow lands and this looks like that so screw this so I think that's like a
fair like it's like oh I think people have like really PTSD like bad taste in their mouth
Joker what do y'all think I haven't gotten to hear y'all's yeah let's hear them
I'm like sky born you mean yeah on sky born just yep yeah I mean to be honest with you
when I saw the announcement I thought was pretty random I was really expecting two new races
not just one so the whole neutral thing feels a little bit scuffed like it doesn't feel like
classicy when you have like a sky born on the lines killing a sky born horse so doesn't
like fit that fantasy for me but I'm kind of open to like sky born as a race and like
Zara was saying you can kind of pivot from it and like create stuff with like the lore
And you know like the whole panel about like medicine right being involved. Yeah, I'm trying to keep an open mind
I just kind of wish it was two new races instead of one
Yeah, I
Agree with that. I really hope that that Blizzard will look at something like this and
Before they add something as big as a new race to the game
They really pulled up well not pulled but like they asked the community
They wouldn't want to say they survey the community on something like this
so we can have a say
And and something as big as this so that way that we don't get into this position where it's like yo take this out
And they've already added it into the game trailer
Oh, it's a tough position to be in for blizzard, but I hope that they can take some notes from this and just learn going forward I
Agree with sword. I feel like they could have just waited and sold out the baseline of the races that exist
And maybe added the races later after seeing what the players give the feedback on also from my end
I feel like the Skyborn's
are cool. Hear me out. I think they're cool, but I think the fans are mad because everyone was
expecting Classic Plus. They were looking forward to like high elves and ogres or I know some people
meme about like Merlocs and whatnot, but I think everyone had an expectation and vision about what
existed in the world in the day. Like boom, during something like nobody really talked about, I think
that's why players are kind of upset at this, but I do think it's a cool concept that Metson added
and they wanted to just do something new, right?
You know, I agree.
I do think after reading, you know, the community,
I went to BlizzCon and I was so fucking hyped
about this expansion.
And I came home and everyone was just focusing
and complaining about the earliest blue character
they can possibly make.
They were widescreening it.
Blue, bad, caps.
I'm glad it's $30.
And I hope they can't afford it.
That's how I felt reading this bullshit afterwards.
It pissed me the fuck off, because that's the only thing
being talked about. Also, the ogre argument, I mean, that's just you don't even know the
game because you're going to have the worst faction imbalance ever initially. I almost
say, again, Forsaken would have been the best call on Horde and then High Elf Alliance.
Without a doubt, that's the best. But people only started talking about that after the
blue hate started before. Ogres, give us ogre. You're just clueless. I don't think you understand
how things actually play out. You need to have a pretty race for the Horde. You just
Or they should have just not added any races. I wouldn't have minded that honestly initially and ogres can come down the line
Murlocs is stupid naga is stupid. We can I don't do I even need to explain why that's not gonna happen
It can't first
So that you mentioned about it being $30 on the good side
They did have a podcast saying that while tokens and level boost will not be available ever
They promised us that how do you guys feel about the $30 to play the new race?
I mean, it's no box price. It's great. Like, yeah, I would have felt really bad.
It would have been a lot worse if the race racials were OP, but it's not, it's not pay
to win. It feels more like pay to lose. Like the other racers are just better.
True, you're right. They are the worst. Maybe good for one-four.
I was talking to Payo about that yesterday and he said what they could have shamelessly
done is made the OP racials on the, on SkyBorn and then everyone enough to buy it. But like,
Yeah, they actually didn't know the idea for that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they
But they didn't we also we don't know how good they are because they the the buffs they give themself last like 30 minutes
If they're near a lay line, we don't know how common those are. We don't even know exactly what the fuck those even are
It might be good for speedrunning ampy
Skyborne genuinely the yeah, if you can I don't know how the lay lines work figure that out exactly
So that all depends you can use it outside of a lane line to and it still does something
And then you can use the the slow-fall thing for a lot of movement speed increase, but yeah, I'm curious what people do with it
It's interesting. It's it's an interesting idea. The one thing the slow-fall is interesting because you can change your direction. Yeah
Yeah, girl, you're right. That's pretty cool
I think it's cool, but is all the other rations are so fucking overpower everything is busted
Yeah, that's the next topic. How do you guys feel about the new form of racial
ability? They kind of went ham on this. Can we go around and say what exactly we're
playing? We're planning on? Sure. You can start first, Soda. Night Elf Druid.
What a surprise. Okay. Wow. I'm going to Alliance. Night Elf Warrior. Oh, you guys all
So don't go
Same night off warrior. Oh my god triple
Now I know this guy's happening. I mean, I'm not lucked in on the race yet, but like for now, maybe I'll play no mage
Oh my god, you guys go go. Let's go over here. Okay. Yeah
So I really want to do a no mage Eureka's really strong and no mage is sick
But after reading all of the
After reading all the mage talents and playing it
I'm not a hundred percent locked on mage yet to be honest. I might play a warrior or a Pali
I actually played them all in the demo and mage is kind of like one button still whereas warrior you're playing five six buttons
Pali's five six seven
It's like two buttons. Okay. It's like you. It's like you
More buttons than normal
Sorry, I gotta break this down. So you're upset about the one button mage that rotation
I'm not really, I just might re-roll.
So much so that you're gonna re-roll.
But do you think you're gonna be challenged
when you add two extra buttons?
You have three buttons?
Like that's, that's what does it for you?
Is the three buttons now?
No, it's just gonna stimulate me a little bit more.
It's gonna be like, it's like two buttons is a big deal
or a lot different than like four
when you have to like think about which one to press next.
But four is still easy.
Let's be honest, it's not retail.
I feel like I'll be having a good argument about this
when I was in a podcast.
You're saying that like people make fun of mages for being one button, but when it comes out to raid like when there's techies
You go around a wing like they do have a lot more utility and whatnot. You want to explain that part?
Yeah, I mean, it's just one button on like like patchwork, right?
But like the raid all encompassing isn't just a single target fight and also the amount of time you spend a raid versus the amount of
Time you exist in the game is like it's such a small percent that like bringing out the like one button
I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call it coke
You either want to play the major you don't want to play the mage
I
Much more so the reason I the reason I disagree with this is because I was looking at it through four lenses
The first lens is when you're questing the second lens is when you're in a dungeon leveling the third lens is PvP
And the fourth lens is a raid
For the majority of these for frost and arcane you're pressing two buttons for fire. You can press up to like four, but
for
For PvP, of course, it's gonna be more but I wasn't looking at it just through the raid lens
I was looking at it. Hey, you're level 30. You're doing a dungeon with some friends
Like what buttons are you actually gonna be pressing on bosses or packs, right?
So I was looking at it through like all these lenses and then not just
Looking at an isolation but comparing it to every other class in the game and then objectively has less buttons to press than every other class in the game
Which I think it's maybe
It might be fun. So I might just play a warrior instead because I might be like well
Maybe it's just me. So maybe I'll play warrior or a Polly. I don't know. We'll see Savicks. What are you playing?
Interesting. All right. Well, I'll be what are you doing? I said, I think you want to say like the only thing that's different is like tanks
It's like tanks are much more dynamic than like the DPS because you have a different play style, but okay
That's my take on it. God. Okay. So
For me I
I think Joe Christmas doesn't know you, right?
No.
He said no, right? No mage? No mage, yeah.
No mage.
Yeah, no mage probably here, but yeah.
Um, for me, I was going to go alliance.
I wanted to shut your ass.
I'm going to go alliance.
I'm the pal of the school.
Like you guys are going to go alliance.
I don't want to be by myself.
I'm going to gank you.
Oh man, I'm already gonna be dead.
It's gonna take 50 minutes to kill them.
Every Paladin, dude, this is a problem I'm worried about.
All these fuckers are gonna play Undead Paladin.
It is such an unfun class to see in the world
and just have to deal with.
Because you know that no matter how bad they are
at the game, bubble, eight seconds immunity,
lay on hands, 20 minute CD, they're gonna have it up.
And then Bob's probably gonna come off cool down
at some point in the middle of that shit.
And that's just a shit player.
And it's gonna be a ton of them.
If they're proud, they have 100% shield.
just every every performance and it's only one minute for parents as well
i'm gonna play rogue alliance night of guys they're pulling me out
well you're not gonna play a pali you know sav you know i'm doing pali so i do want to play a pali
man i might play a human pali savick just do it you have to play a pali you're up you're savicks
i might be like zhara folding up the maze i might fold this up too i yeah i'm here so it's obvious why
I'm going night off. I'm a fucking druid like I don't have a lot of options. Yeah, I'm P and sardocco
Why are y'all going night off? I'm curious. It's a pretty active
So they have they have two things they have the passive dodge
Which gives you rage now if you weren't wielding a shield and then they have they have increased movement speed
Which is nice, and then they also have an active so I mean having active first nap threat on pull is huge
Having a 10% create right off rip as great for snap threat. I
I could be the guy's real answer. I can give you guys they just want to look at a hot female Malady guys
That's what it is. I'm playing Swifty. I don't know what you're talking about.
Okay, really off the hook.
I'm Swifty. I'm Swifty. Stop.
You're the only male Night of Prayer.
Alright.
Now that I think about, man, crazy. I haven't even thought about the the PvE perspective of Racial.
I'm just so PvP-brained.
You're right. I think Night Elf just surpasses everything.
What does humans have 2%?
It's 2% crit on the warrior human, but it's like baseline throughout the whole time.
How long are the fights?
It's okay.
I mean, like, compared to a night elf, it's just less at snap.
It's probably more overall.
So like a DPS warrior going, it might end up being the same, I don't know.
Like a pried patchwork would be human meta, like for a long fight.
Yeah.
Do we know if Shadowmeld is the same?
Is it like Retail Shadowmeld where you leave qualms?
No, I wish it was.
So it's like a threat drop now, if you use it, right?
There's two ways, okay, so there's two ways to use Shadowmold.
If you use it outside of combat,
it's a 10 second cooldown and you just go Shadowmold.
If you use it in combat, it makes it into a longer cooldown.
I think it's one or two minutes
and you actually fade out and like, yeah, drop combat
or a threat, yeah.
So my Tism brain started, my Tism brain was thinking,
I was looking at the new engineering items.
You have a blink now, instead of rocket.
or you can take the three minute. Now imagine how many people are going to blink and shadow
melt. True. Yeah. Oh, you're cooking already for
duels, huh? Oh, yeah. And then now that stupid trinket that makes you envis for like 10 seconds,
think about blinking and then hitting that. Wait, before we get to the profession, was
there anything you guys want to mention about like ratios? Did you guys like it being strong
so that people get to just have fun with it and maybe they like change it along the way?
like Joker mentioned, he kept saying that in 2019 and some,
we just get the solid version of classic
where they have all the fixes.
But in this one, we'll get to experience it like 2004
where we go in steps of getting all the passion to changes.
Like, do you guys like Racial's being a little bit powerful
right now or would you guys want to tone it down already?
I feel like the Racial's aren't so strong
that everybody's playing one race.
So I think it's okay.
I agree.
As long as you're considering playing different races, I think it's okay.
Yeah.
So I think it's okay.
Because before it was just human and orc.
So I mean, that's already better, I would say, for like, let's say warrior as an example.
If you were a gnome, you pretty much only had, or if you were a mage, you pretty much
only played gnome.
Because that's the element that mattered.
And so I kind of like there being some different options.
I will say, I don't know if you guys have looked at the priest-specific ones, but gnome
The gnome priest is way over stacked and that needs to go.
Some things need to change.
Okay, if you guys don't know, the gnome priest's specific racial is one, guardian spirit, nobody
else gets it, and then two, guardian spirit.
It's like a baby guardian spirit.
When you drop Lois P and you have it on you, you gain a huge bubble and then a rejuve.
Like a really big bubble.
Wow.
So it's just like, it's like a kind of.
I think there's some there's some there's some fine print here though with the priest the known priest one
It's it's only up for like 10 seconds
So if you put it at someone at 100% life or even 50 and they get healed like nothing actually will happen
It's not like you can just put it up like for a full minute
So you up if you miss the window you're kind of screwed and then the way it reads is we seconds. I think it's pretty good
It's it's you can see somebody's gonna die possibly
But I also it's it the way it reads is weird. It says when you drop below 35
So if you're like 20 this that mean it doesn't work or just like I like the wording is a little weird on it, too
It's only under 35. I don't know
It regardless
Yeah, that by itself isn't a problem actually, but then they also get which for PvP it's broken
I guess for dungeons maybe but they get an AOE disorient for four seconds or three seconds
I'm like it's like a war stop, but it's longer
longer. Wait, do the gnomes get both of these? Yes. But it's only gnome priests. So they
also get their normal racials. Why only gnome priests? Because priests get their bonus racial
effect on top of their racials. But why do they get... Oh, so which one is their racial?
Neither of them is racial. It's just a gnome specific priest thing. So why do they get
two? I thought it's just one thing. A lot of people are getting two like star shards
and a loon's grace for night elf and like there's some that are getting two. But these
ones just feel a little like if I had to guess these are probably gonna get
changed before the real game launches.
Take away guardian spirit, fuck that, hello? Keep them story in I guess.
It's like Fear Ward. It's like Fear Ward used to only be dwarf but now it's
on everybody and so everybody else gets a replacement for that.
What if they leave it in for a little bit so people can have fun with it?
I think it's fine.
No, think about it. Let's calculate the dopamine, all right?
You are taking away more dopamine from the people having to deal with it than
the people gaining from using it.
If someone is having fun, someone else is not having fun, right?
That's always how it works.
So yeah, I don't know how to do that for every class, though, guys, like every class works
like that in some way.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you're putting more mad about what they're doing to you than what you're doing
to them.
We'll see how things are scaled, too, because, for example, the Guardian Spirit thing might
give you a shield that is like 100 HP.
It's just like I don't know or maybe it's a thousand if it's a thousand it's like way too OP
It's like this billable. We don't know guys keep them by me. Just get chastised
No, they get no, no, no they get um I forgot but it's like it can heal somebody
It's like desperate prayer, but for somebody else
So it's like a holy shock and then it removes their power word shield debuffs. They could reshield them. Wow, which is interesting, too
You have to keep in mind we have a we have an active development team now for our game
This is not a permanent game. They will be really bouncing and fixing things too. So I am I'm pretty hopeful that
The devs will listen and they'll monitor the game and if if they see that, you know, garden spirit is op then they'll just nerf it
Yeah, you're right true. That's exciting. A lot of these
Are gonna get changed for sure. I think they're overpowered on purpose
Just so like spice things up and shift the meta but over time if like, let's say the no racial is too good or too many people
playing night elf you're gonna see updates right gonna be passionals and
stuff all right this is our only time to be extremely wrong because we haven't
even gotten to play yet so I I want all of us to just say what do we think is
the worst racial in the game right now just overall obviously some classes in
some situations it's crazy but overall worst racial dwarf
Skyborn.
You know, actually, my piece Skyborn, honestly.
I think it's Skyborn too.
It's hard to say, though.
I would need to, like, look at all of them side-by-side, but...
Did Torrance get anything?
Play starters, cool, but...
Play starters for speedrunning is going to be OP. Holy crap.
Yeah, before, like, PEE-specific. Nothing.
Okay.
5% health and 1% hit rating is a passive.
But the reality is, War Stomp is nerfed indirectly with, like,
Like so you can war stomp and you can regrowth as a druid the only only druid or only tarns are druids 90% of the time
So now orcs you can't regrowth because it's reduced underation
So even if you land it it doesn't matter and humans have a stun trinket. So those are nerf war stomp
So tarns just worse and then planes running is just I'm not gonna spam ad to keep my dumb planes running shit
And I'm not gonna collect herbs the bots are gonna outfarm me anyways
for sure and what we're talking about
racials or classes are are are we all
decided on the Lions right now for
official launch is that is that alliance
pvp alliance pvp i wanted to know
this like five against one so i don't
think i could even try okay so everyone
has been asking where we playing it's
going to be the alliance pvp rule set
right i mean i'm being joker you guys
are going like rps or something for
first right yeah i'll play servers
i'm gonna get on pvp you're gonna do it
on PvP for World First? Yeah, I'm gonna do it on PvP.
Damn, guys, we gotta get out there and protect Amp for his World First.
Oh, my God, he's gonna get a little 20.
I'm gonna get a little 40, I'm gonna get a little 20.
Exactly, exactly.
Okay, okay.
Could you want a PvP server for yours, right?
Uh, I'm going where my guild's going, so if they go PvE, I go PvP, if they go PvP,
I go PvP.
He's on Europe servers anyway, so unfortunately, we can't play with him.
Yeah, I'll roll with you guys in a day later.
What you did I'm talking about when you did it in 2019 you were on a PvP server, right?
Yeah, that was that's correct. Who I thought like it wouldn't count
Yeah, I thought it wouldn't count if you got it on PvE first, but I think I was like kind of in my head
I think people would have still cared right? Oh, yeah, totally. Oh, yeah
I mean for sure. I was like a 10-minute 10 level 40's just came and killed me
That's crazy. Yeah
How and what did you do as a response is definitely like layer. What did you do?
I actually layer off for the first time. I was like level 56 or something and they were just gone
They couldn't get back to you
They did they follow me and then I layered again
So
Alliance for launch for beta do you guys want to play Alliance also?
Are we going horde because I want to figure this out
Yeah, but if you go for the beat I'm gonna fall in love with undead Pali and then that's what you're playing on launch think about it
Yeah, I mean, I don't care
I don't care for four beta two guys
So if let's just say if the game launched right now, I'd be alliance
But we'll see what changes happen in the beta because like you said Tarn needs love. I'll play Tarn
But like I'm not gonna play it in its current status if your tips was like on Twitter. I need a million dollars
I want to do a wow tournament. Yeah, I wanna play in those.
I don't know if y'all saw that fucking ridiculous tweet I saw, I saw it, I saw it, I saw it.
Burger King. Who the fuck did you think that was?
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Talking about the tournament, what class race competition do you think will win?
I have a few classes on my head.
Okay.
With, oh, a tournament?
Yeah, it won't be a tournament.
Dude, Warlock, do you guys see the Warlock build where you can go SL, SL, and get the HP thing?
Molten armor, Molten armor, whatever. Yeah, dude. I'm gonna say Molten armor is gonna be like warlocks are gonna be on kill
I think I think I don't think that's a lot. I don't shadow priest. No, I'm priest. Okay, Joker. No shadow priest sounds busted. Yeah
Yeah, I think it's looking strong
Are we back in these turnies? I'll just back berserk. It's GG
That's interesting if we get to do a spec for the tournament, we should be able to I think that's cool to let people do a spec
That would be kind of crazy to farm to go to gear sets. Oh my god hybrids miserable
Oh, man, I don't know I mean that's you find out when the actual tournaments happen
And then again like this is beta right now things are gonna change obviously they haven't really gotten done
That's what that's the purpose of this thing is to figure this kind of shit out
What's broken and then likes our doc goes said?
changes yeah
Imagine
Imagine like game getting updated guys
I also feel like they won't go like too crazy, which I don't think they should it should be like nurse by like maybe
2% 3% like small tweaks. You don't want to still the class though, right?
Remove gnomes that be fine. Oh, whoa
Alliance you should like the gnomes
I mean I have to do these fucks, you know, I'm actually I'm like thinking about sitting outside storm when what do I have to deal with?
Just in my casual dueling outside the city. I'm probably gonna be dueling and PVP against more alliance than horde on my average day
Can't wait to get your reek it on I got a question actually for some of you PVPers here. How do you guys feel about no arenas?
Good
As an arena enjoyer I
Think arena will become like, you know retail while arena it will get forgotten
It's too hard to balance and then to change like PVP to PVP like balancing that out both. It's it's so hard
I think they should focus on objective gameplay. I think that's easier to follow for like boomers as well
I know people are gonna get mad at me for saying that
Objective so if you're gonna say like a B you're talking like 15 vs 15 as soon as the nameplates get big and like more players get involved
That's when boomers and stuff can't follow. That's why I won't be okay, but let's say let's say
arena right where you're like pillar-humping which I love but compare that to like a war song goals
where you're watching a flag go in team resurrect group up and go again like they're protecting
the objective like when my dad was watching me play arena he's like you're literally spinning
around the arena every single day isn't that boring i'm like no this is so fun dad but when he
watches like pubg like circle closing or capture the flag like he could follow that along like
Flag runner. Don't kill them. I I do think arenas
Maybe they could have like a season where they try it see how it plays out and then remove it after
Um, you know, just let it play out
But I think there's probably a better answer for competitive pvp that doesn't take away from the world
of warcraft
Um, I agree that okay, and but I don't know what the I'm not I haven't think tanked it. Um
What about a 1v1 thing? I know it's unbalanced, but yeah
at least a dueling ground that we all talked about.
That would be sick.
I would be sick.
I would be sick, yeah.
Just somewhere where your cooldowns will reset
after you duel would be enough to start with.
Yes, and then I didn't know what to do.
So here's my thing with Arena in Classic Well.
You absolutely need to restructure CC
to be 10 seconds or eight seconds instead of 20.
If you absolutely need to do that in Arena,
because if not, you're gonna have a mage
or a rogue sapping someone for like a minute at a time.
It doesn't work.
So you would have to restructure that, but when you restructure that,
it kind of breaks how classic PUP feels in the outworld and battlegrounds
and in dual tournaments.
And like they're one of the most successful things from any WoW tournament ever.
So it's like, should we risk what we already have for trying a new game
mode that may or may not work, but like restructure our entire CC and
diminishing return system.
So I think it's like a fool's bet here.
It's hard.
So I wouldn't go for it.
I agree.
There's got to be a better answer. There could be something.
On your, like, your Savics, you talk about 1v1s expanding on that.
You could do, like, a...
Let's think of Orog arena, you know, where the thing that's not ever used.
You could go in there, you can sign up, and it's basically back-to-back 1v1.
I would love that. I would be so 1v1.
You go to the next one. It's essentially a battle royale.
But...
In addition, Soda...
Sorry to interrupt, but in addition, a leaderboard for who has the most wins for the week,
and it just resets every week and you just get like oh oh look I get some some like recognition
because I won a lot of these duels and it's not like a ladder it's not a rating it's not too sweaty
but it's a little cool leaderboard of like I won this many duels like something like that could work
yeah but the people have already pointed I've thought about this and people have pointed out the
issue healer versus healer like I mean honestly I'm the problem me playing a druid I can't go against
Suprise the ship will never end true make it where there's a box when you enter and you could grab 20 water and that's it
No
Run out of 20 water
Hunter you winning your duel. What are you doing?
What's up? What are you doing when you you rogue versus hunter the duel ends pretty fucking quickly?
I'm druid versus priest. I've got seven water left. Let me stretch this out
You're gonna wait
Well, I don't know like 10 water. I mean dampening would be the answer, but do we want that we could we could play by resources
Right where you're like only allowed to grab a certain amount per do like every time you and you come out
You could re quench grab grab like the water has to be balanced around 1v1s because now one class will reign supreme the entire time
I mean, I think moving pieces. It's it's I think we go in knowing that while the ones are in balance
This is just for fun. I think
Now people stop caring about it now only rogues you up. No, it would be like war logs major like if you
Alarm like real can't even open like he will destroy
I think it just depends on the players and the gadgets they use and like you said
There's a lot of fun engineering items where you could blink three-minute cool down. There's like gliders. Yeah, I did think people could mix and match up
And players like you guys
You guys want to know how to beat other classes
Maybe if it's like the top-end level player like snuts level then GG. He's gonna beat your ass, but
Yeah, you know a lot of people are worried it might turn into sod or something and just get fucking stupid
But we I mean we really expanded on the arena question clearly
You know there's a better answer out there and we'd love to you P. We're not casting it out. Yeah. Yeah
Rated bgs
You're right.
You want to answer like a yeah, I like rated BG is way more because you can keep DRs and
CC duration the way they are.
Arena of battlegrounds and classic well already kind of like classic era already kind of balance
in the sense that you want every buff you want every class you don't have to go crazy
with the balance in terms of like oh well this is destroying 2v2 it's like well you'll
probably have like every class in there you don't have to change much it's already there
kind of works.
said that, if it becomes this, no one's going out in the world and actually like world PVPing
and everyone's just sitting in a city queuing, I think that's a negative. But like if I was
going to add any type of like PVP, I would start with 1v1s because that's historically what's been
the most successful. And then from there, my secondary option would be RBGs because battle
crowns are also been quite successful. And they make sense. You don't need to change too much.
My third option with them be arenas. Like I think it would be 1v1s RBGs and arena
know we're on the list not the blood moon area like string of thorn oh like world pvp stuff is like
zero with option like that'd be like of course we should do that yeah getting people out in the world
and is like highest priority but if we're talking like some type of ranked or like
like getting people pvp in a new way that's like more structured like that's the tier list but yeah
world pvp should absolutely happen like that's the whole game right getting out there and sliding
the other back to me just large scale pvp just sucks to me and i mean i guess there's some rose
Tended glass it was like sod STV because it was kind of short-term and it was new kind of like everyone loved discovering things inside
But once it was done it was to chore to go get it right and that's how I feel like world scale large-scale PvP
Scripted I mean I guess in the world you're ganking another guild stuff like that, but again events it always just turns into a ranged
Let me tell dot shitfest of trash. It's not actually fun
So I'm hesitant pretty laggy as well when there's so many people fighting each other. Yeah
Yeah, you have five warlocks walking together and they just dot you when you die.
Okay, I'll find another person.
I mean, I think Stranglethorne fail kind of ended up that way.
Did you ever play Black Rock Mountain Soda and sod?
Black Rock Corruption.
I fucking loved that. That one was pretty good.
No, no, no, no, no, I don't know what you're talking about.
No. Okay.
Wait, what did you love then? I'm curious.
Black Rock Mountain PvP.
Okay, so basically what they did in sod in the later phase
later phase when you didn't play is they made something,
they did something called Black Rock eruption.
You just got like a ton of bonus on her every three hours
for PVPing in the mountain.
And like that one, it was like big enough
where you could like hide in a corridor
and like pick people off like 1v2 and like,
or like run away and like hide somewhere.
Like it was actually like kind of fun.
I agree with you overall.
Yeah, I agree with you overall.
That was just promoting the area
and giving reasons to go PVP there.
Exactly.
You're right, Black Rock round PVP was fun.
And I enjoy it when it kind of incentivizes you
to do lower scale PVP.
I don't like five manning, 10 manning,
just Zug rushing, this is one shot, this guy.
Let's go to the graveyard, kill him again.
Yeah, yeah.
So I agree with that.
I think world PVP is good when,
I mean, it's still not what we remember it as kids,
but it's better when you just say,
hey, look guys, every three hours,
you're gonna get way more honor here
if you're pushing for titles,
if you're pushing for gear,
go have fun out in the world
instead of queuing your 40th battleground,
you can like go outside in the world
and like just have fun for 30 minutes or an hour
and then get back to queuing battlegrounds
if you're ranking.
I would take it a step further.
I would make there be zones in the world
where you get bonus honor for PVP in general
and you can't be in a group and it's 24-7.
That's it, just go ahead and put some stuff in there.
When they do the three hour bullshit,
it turned into, all right, time to go!
And everyone got a 40 man raid, it's awful.
Yeah, the 40 man rate stuff sucks some 3am solo ganking in the zone and you know, maybe a couple of farm areas where some
Water essences drops of some guys on our PvE spec like I'm gonna make some money here higher drop rate
Sure. Yeah, you got about fuckers farming honor. You got this whole shit going on in this zone that bang
You know what? That's what I fucking want. That's awesome. I like that
Good idea. Okay. We could be talking about PG all day. I think we could please see the passion in it
But let's talk about some items. Do you think blizzards should remove any items or change ability?
I think one really good example Soda mentioned was Petri, right?
Think things like that. Are there anything else you guys would like to add on to the list or arguments that Petri should stay, right?
It might be already changed for all we know. Is that confirmed that Petri is the same? Petri should be gone.
Okay
Yeah, I think I think better should be gone
Like ampie, what's your take because I know ampie is a more of a petri enjoyer. I mean with with the idea that hardcore exists
I think that there should be some sort of barrier
To not I understand people hating Petri, but from a player's perspective
Losing your 450 hour investment because of like everybody losing their 450 hour investment because of a bad poll or something
Or disconnect
Something could happen and it's just like, you know, I think at the end of the day
It's the goal is to get people to engage with it and not necessarily be like oh well
Technically they're actually they would have died if they didn't have this consume like I don't think it's that serious for me
Maybe don't even allow it in normal and just only allow something in hardcore
for that kind of like effect because I think it was pretty good
If Petra wasn't in a lot of people would have quit like a lot more respect you saying that because you're gonna get hate for it
but I can see your argument and it makes,
no, no, no, but like, I mean,
you're the most knowledgeable hardcore player there.
No, I understand from this perspective too.
I see your perspective.
It's because when viewers watch,
they want to watch you die, obviously.
Like it's the best part, everyone wants to react
and see how you die or how you panic.
But when you're like a raider that race every week
and you're doing next prop,
I think them having that one safety button
does give them like that backup to want to continue.
So I could see the perspective in it.
Do I agree with it?
I'm the same as the chat.
I want to see people die.
I don't want them to escape.
But I see the argument in why he's saying this.
I'll take it.
We're going to hear it.
Yeah, you can do that.
I do remember when the hardcore first started,
everyone was arguing that the people actually playing
were arguing for Petri.
And then, of course, everyone else that wasn't playing
was saying against it.
But as the game got more and more figured out,
the Petri became less and less necessary, in my opinion.
And it did reach a point where,
really, you just didn't need it.
I mean, you can have it, it's a crutch.
It's like, oh, I'm not scared of anything
because I'm immune to death.
That's kind of what it turned into eventually.
Kind of was, it's just too strong.
It's, you are-
So, looking at-
It was not everything.
So, I kind of thought that way,
but looking at the rating numbers
on Ironforge Pro for hardcore,
there was literally like hundreds of Raiders globally,
or like maybe just over like a thousand,
which means there's like a handful of guilds
that were like rating and hardcore in the world.
It's not a lot.
It's not a lot.
So if you remove Petri,
that number goes to effectively close to zero.
Of course there'd be like ampese frontier
that would like clear it all and quit.
But if you remove Petri,
it essentially kills end game rating.
I just wanna like leave that there for some perspective.
If you remove Petri, hardcore rating essentially does.
The hype, I think the interest and the knowledge
that this character this hardcore character is valued not just some random shitty add-on that not a lot only the sweats and the freaks are actually logging into that
Might in itself will probably bump those numbers up. I don't know where he's gonna. We'll see. Yeah, hopefully not just temporarily
Yeah, I was thinking what really really kills
Raids is when you petri and you leave group
So if you just petri it and you're still just sitting there and the boss just keeps attacking you
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad. So you remove the feature of teleporting out in a raid when you're in combat or interacting with the boss
So even if you petri like the boss is still gonna kill you when you un-petri
Yeah, I like that too
Since you played a lot of OSR is sorry, and there's ways to get out as like a hardcore player
Like how do you feel about OSR is having a way out and then like while players trying to get rid of Petri?
But do you think?
Okay, so OSRS has something called an escape crystal, which is awesome because if you stop moving or pressing any buttons for like three seconds
It'll TP you out. Well, unfortunately that doesn't work in Wow. So if you DC and wow, you're just dead
I don't know if wow will ever come up with something like that would be amazing
I don't I don't I haven't thought about anything I could do but if it's like maybe it's like who's who's in combat AFK for 30 seconds
You know, yeah, there's obviously you can maybe abuse it on like fringe cases, but like at the same time if it's really costly
It doesn't matter
Yes, I agree. Yeah, and hardcore would be amazing. I mean it's something that yeah
I really just discourages people more than anything when they lose a huge investment and I would love to see that solved one day for a while
I like at least 30 seconds hard core
If you could have some kind of DC production like not even tied to Petri like it's knowing like knowing that if you DC
You lose hundreds of hours of progress makes people not want to play hardcore, right?
Yeah, no the game being more alive is more important. Can we fuck the Petri? Did we look at the other shit?
Just the professions
There was there was some item that like gave us smoke bob fog bomb
And it reduces the hit chance of the mob
I mean more than alchemy that's just one that I saw
Fucking spoilers, I don't care if people don't hear it
There is another like alchemy poison flask you throw on the floor. It did like 500 damage that hurt our second
Yeah, it was kind of crazy. We'll see how it's cool
You could like step or throw that
Yeah, imagine imagine cheap kidney with that bullshit. You're dead
Yeah, you're done. Yeah, we'll see how it's doing that guys guys the Q&A starts in like two minutes
Is it okay?
We're but we should that was a lot of fun
We should all decide where we're playing because this thing is gonna open right up this we're going horde or we're going to alliance for beta
We could talk again after this then I mean we're gonna
I'm logging in okay, that's what I'm saying
I'm saying I might go hard
Okay, either way, I don't care for the beta. I'm gonna do both. I'm gonna do both
Alliance first alliance first and horse second so we're gonna go line
It's fine
in the line I'll make another alliance this level 20 max as we can make this
but you might only be able to choose one of the other on pvp but you can only do
one of the other I think for pvp I believe even on beta I don't know I'm
don't call me on that I think maybe they've been on there on the whole relief
what do we think about that should they leave that or no should that be changed
should be out you should be out you should be out I think yeah you should be
able to play both I think yeah okay but for that we can only do one of the
other right away for like a tournament I'm talking guys I'm talking tournaments
here we're gonna have to delete our character to start over all right like
should we go out that's why I'm asking it's important kind of we have one
people just buy a second account and they do it anyways so it like it doesn't
really matter okay so we're gonna start out so it should just be gone you say we
I'm going alliance I don't know what y'all are doing do what you want okay but
like you guys we all go hoarding fight soda I'll get the guy I don't like
I don't guys I'm watching this Q&A. Yeah
Chat what's going on Q&A time? Holy crap. That was wild, huh? That was wild. Let's take off
This this this Q&A starting now
Cheese what a morning what a morning
guys I don't know if I'm going all our horde I mean my preference my preference is alliance
I like alliance better but since we're already doing alliance I could go horde I don't care
for the beta I'm gonna farm you alright man
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that you asked us following blizzcon
i'm joined by
paul cubit
hello maria hamilton
And Jake Miller, who I saw carrying around a sword at BlizzCon, Jake, where's the sword?
Oh, it's off getting ruined forged.
It's getting ruined forged.
OK, all right.
Coming out of all our amazing announcements at BlizzCon, we had so many questions from
players all around the world, thousands of questions.
We've gotten the most prominent ones together.
And I'm going to ask you all an example of each.
So every one of these questions was asked by hundreds of people.
I'm going to ask you an example that caught my eye.
And so I want to start with Maria.
We saw a question in Germany from a player named Navarre, who asked, will we ever see
a return to faction-specific narratives and stories?
I mean the short answer is yes.
Okay, good.
Short answer.
Give us a long answer.
So with the story we've been telling so far, with the World Soul saga.
So guys, it's retail first, then classic.
needed to come together and unify our concerns have been largely we need to
deal with this overwhelming problem and we have this sort of grudging unity for
example Silverman City you know we're having a horrible problem please come
help us with this horrible problem but also you can't go to that part of the
city because because we're gonna kill you if you do and that doesn't that doesn't
always feel good no no you're definitely getting a different experience
if you're playing an alliance character you've got NPCs coming up and telling you
they don't like you and even after you you successfully help them then they
say well grudgingly thanks but also I still don't like you so we want to make
sure we maintain that conflict we want to make sure we maintain that idea that
we're not we're not in agreement we we aren't all after the same thing but we'd
like to survive, so we'll work together very grudgingly there.
And back in the war within, we did
have an area where we had an opportunity
to tell a slightly different story, which
was in the Arathi Highlands when we went and encountered
the Red Dawn.
And so there, we intentionally broke you out
so you could sort of see what was going on
from the Horde perspective and what
was going on from the Alliance perspective.
And there, we were able to find out, oh, the problem actually
are these crazy fanatics, let's deal with them.
But again, it's a grudging unity and that's going to change over time.
It's not going to be always happy, friendly, you know, we need to unify.
We expect to have more conflict in the future and more opportunity for those unique points
of view.
Speaking of change over time, I'm curious, how has narrative design in WoW evolved and
changed over the first half of the world soul saga?
Yeah, it's hard to remember that we're about halfway through.
So when we started, the very first thing we did was sit down
and figure out the broad strokes.
What are the big beats?
How does the story begin?
What happens?
The big pieces.
And then how is it going to conclude?
And we set that up.
And then we started looking at all the smaller pieces
and how we can sort of start moving things, people, places.
We can have certain events happen.
We can let you know about and foreshadow certain things.
And we started setting all those pieces up.
And that's what we've been doing with some of our content
that drops at various intervals.
We've also done a lot of lore walking that's
trying to introduce you to or remind you,
or if you're a new player, teach you
about people and places and things that will add to the story.
So we've been setting all of that up.
But most importantly, we've been able to listen to you.
We've been able to listen to what players are responding to
and learn, oh, this wasn't as clear as we wanted it to be.
Oh, they've got a lot of questions about this.
We should make sure we reinforce this.
So with those smaller beats, we're able to do that.
And that's very different from what
we've been able to do in the past.
I mean, a trilogy in and of itself gives us a different opportunity.
So fundamentally, as we move through this now,
we're getting all of our pieces in the right places.
We're raising all these threats.
We're making clear how serious things are becoming.
And from here forward, we're just going to go, go, go.
Now, we're going to just keep moving,
and there's going to be many things happening very quickly.
So we started off kind of pacing with slower,
and now it's going to get a lot quicker.
Exactly.
Good.
Very next question I want to turn to you, Paul,
because so many players asked us about race class combos.
At BlizzCon, we announced some really exciting things.
I'm personally going to be an undead paladin
in the very near future.
The question that caught my eye was from a player
named Tinker Shell, who said, are we
going to see more race class combos with the current races and classes.
Short answer again, yes for sure, yeah I mean so in 12-2 we saw a really cool
opportunity. Guys this is really interesting but I really have to go to the
bathroom so I'll actually be right back. We've been thinking about this for some time.
Just a second, enjoy. When we were announcing midnight we talked about the
Boyd Elf Demon Hunter introducing maybe some unfairness like well this is only
Alliance Race, how come Horbrus didn't get a chance to be a Demon Hunter? We said wait
with time and as the midnight story evolves we're gonna have some more
opportunities coming for Horde races as well and Undead Paladin, Forsaken Paladin
was specifically what we had in mind there because we had some cool story for
it but we also as the story grew and in the telling found some really cool
opportunities for story for Night Elf and Dark Spear so like these these
opportunities sort of manifest themselves as we as we build the game as
the team thinks about what we think is cool there will be more stuff in the
future as well. And this will all be just a function of where the story takes us, as
well as sort of the output of the team, what we're able to accomplish. So, yeah, there
will be more.
Good. Excellent. Alongside all of those questions about race class, we're just questions about
how we all look, how we're able to design our own characters to look. And so, I picked
this one question from a player named Omidon. It's not even a question. He said, please
tell me there is hope for broader character customization options. And I'm telling you
hundreds of varieties of this question. Yes. So, hi Omidon. Hi hundreds of other people.
Yes. There's hope. Yeah. I mean, so this has been something which has been super important
to us is just being able to express yourself. And you've seen this in so many ways in the
game. Housing is probably the most apparent and recent one where we want to make sure
that players have choices from a whole bunch of different cultures, a whole bunch of different
vibes to be able to express themselves specifically in their home the way they decorated. But
it's not just that, it's also the mounts you choose. It's the pets that go alongside you.
It's the transmog with changes upcoming to transmog in 1225, which I'm super excited
for. You'll be able to, yeah, transmog across different armor classes. And that is all done
with the mindset of let's just give people more flexibility
to be able to express themselves.
Character customization, the way you do your hair,
the way that you present your skin color,
facial features, any of that stuff.
Tattoos is absolutely in that space as well.
And so this is something that we're passionate about,
providing more options.
There will be more in the future for sure.
This is always something that we're looking towards for,
you know, these will manifest themselves
in ways you might expect.
So cool new hairstyles, cool new hair colors and whatnot.
And also maybe ways you didn't expect,
Maybe new options, new dropdowns up here on races that didn't exist before.
You mentioned transmog restrictions being lifted in 1225.
I just want to ask you, yes or no, what are we doing with class sets with those?
So for clarity, the specific rule sets are cloth, leather, mail, and plate.
Don't matter anymore when you are transmogging.
You can transmog across those sets.
As far as class specific sets, those will still be class specific.
And also weapons is something that we've seen questions about.
you won't be able to transmog to a weapon
you don't know how to wield.
So no transmoguing, swords into guns,
and things like that.
Unless you're capable of wielding a gun, but we, yes.
So you need to know how to use a gun
in order to transmog it.
What did I miss guys, what did I miss?
And the reason behind this is 100%
just trying to find the coolest way
that we can sort of provide flexibility to players.
We've seen a lot of feedback from players
that like, yes, this is awesome,
this is exactly what we want,
but then there's also people on either side
that said like, hey, this went a little too far,
makes me feel uncomfortable to be able to transmog from plate to cloth and cloth to plate
and also people who say we didn't go far enough. I would love to be able to transmog from paladin
to priest, from rogue to hunter or what have you and so we're going to keep listening to feedback
but we're really excited to sort of take this big giant step forward in flexibility because once
you start mixing those armor classes the possibilities for transmog go exponential. Got it.
Jake Miller, at BlizzCon we announced Wrath of the Lich King remix and I saw this question from a player named
Parmelian from Slip-O-Nate. I know they announced that. I missed that. Parmelian said, why have you decided to go with Wrath of the Lich King for the next remix?
Well, after we finished Legion remix, we knew that we wanted to do another fondly remembered expansion and with it being the season of Northrend
going into Northrend for the last Titan, what better way to experience it than to go back
to Grizzly Hills, enjoy that lovely music, and as the remix team, look at a more mechanically
simple expansion and see how we could remix it even more than we could, say, Legion remakes.
So you'll see systems present in Rath remix that include things like outbreaks occurring
in the outdoor world, as well as in dungeons. The magic of the infinite is going to make
our dungeons infinitely scaling in difficulty, as well as seeing what Rune Forging can look
like for every class. The Hearthstone concept art of every class raised in the Scourge
planted a seed that we're very, very happy to water.
Which also means Invincibles for everyone on retail. Woohoo! Guys, yeah!
And rewards that we want to be able to bring to players, as well as watching concept artists
go wild with these themes.
It's so incredible.
I can't wait for you to see the modern take
on mounts like Invincible.
I just want to jump back because I didn't hear that
at BlizzCon.
You said Rune Forging for every class.
Rune Forging.
We will die.
We will come back and be ready to Rune Forge as every class.
That's amazing.
I'm really looking forward to that.
There'll be more info in next year.
Next year we've got more info on Wrath Remix.
Another thing to consider, too, I think,
is that we have a lot of players that have never
experienced Northrend before.
And since we're going there in the last Titan,
it would be really good if they had an opportunity
to kind of understand what the place was like
should anything happen to it.
Understood.
Moving on, a lot of questions about housing.
So I just picked one from a player named Mario.
Mario, so what will the future of Warcraft housing
look like?
Will there be continual additions, upgrades?
Will there be new styles created down the line?
Paul?
Yeah, so for sure.
I mean, this is a lot same as my previous answer.
It's going to continue to grow in ways you might expect
and ways that you won't expect as well.
So ways you might expect.
Yeah, we're going to go to new places
and we're going to steal all their furniture
and bring them to our houses.
So you're going to have all these new cultures of decor
that you can be able to absorb.
There will be new endeavors where these cultures
from around the world are going to come visit our neighborhoods
and we're going to have cool opportunities
to interact with them, either through the quests and tasks
that come out of those endeavors, as well as just
getting some of their furniture as well.
But also, as you might not expect,
I mean, we talked about a lot of these in coming in Eclipse,
things like showcases, things like mannequins,
coming up, the functionality like copy, paste, multi-select, by now.
All these things are going to sort of increase the functionality that you have within housing.
And we're not stopping there.
I mean, we're going to continue adding new things to housing.
I mean, one of the things I've heard a lot of people ask for is different exteriors that
better reflect the exteriors of the different cultures in the world.
We've heard you.
This is something that we are absolutely going to be thinking about as we continue to move
forward.
Nothing specific to announce at this time, but I want to make sure people know that those
questions and requests are not going unheard and teams hard at work.
Speaking of questions and requests, well I've got you Paul. So many questions
about class design and we just can't possibly touch on every class so I picked
a question that's about all of it. A player named Spicy asked what have you
learned from the reduction of class complexity in midnight and how has your
class design philosophy shifted as a result? That's actually a really good question.
So as sort of a reset reminder, at the beginning of midnight,
we were specifically looking to reduce complexity in classes,
specifically focusing on complexity.
So reducing cases where a class felt complex.
But with an attempt to make sure that we kept depth
within those classes as well, kept a sort of high-skill
ceiling.
And a good example of a place where we said,
we gave our example ahead of midnight.
And I think that we hit the mark by and large
across a lot of specs.
But this one is outlaw.
Outlaw is one where we have this mechanic, roll the bones,
which is highly complex.
You have a lot of different buffs,
or you need to memorize the relative value of each of them.
And in the heat of combat, it was difficult for players
to be able to identify, when should I roll the bones?
When should I re-roll my bonuses to get a chance
that may be getting a better one?
This was something that a lot of people used add-ons for,
to just, well, do the math for me in my head.
This was redesigned in a way where it still has
some pretty clear break points of how your mechanic works.
And you do still have those choices of,
Well, should I re-roll?
But it's much easier for players to be able to sort of tell
in their head when the best time is to do that.
So we think we're able to keep that high-skill ceiling,
keep that complexity, and the flavor,
keep the flavor of rolling the dice without losing it.
Another good example is Evoker.
Evoker has the Flame Shaper hero talent tree,
which previously, similar setup,
it was all about setting up in golf,
but it was difficult to tell exactly what the best way was
to do that.
The previous version of that tree,
that got rebuilt in midnight,
which is now more about flexibility.
You have some charges on some of your
sort of iconic and power abilities.
It's more about maintaining uptime on your heal over time,
damage over time effects.
And so these are all things which are gonna give you
flexibility, gonna give you again, high skill ceiling,
and still maintaining that fantasy of what it's about.
Resto Shaman is another class on the other hand
where we saw some examples where players said,
excuse me, players know that.
This kind of knows the stuff.
When we went, reduced complexity,
We also maybe released some of that skill that was required.
And so we've done a lot of iteration on Arresto Shaman
over the course of midnight.
I think we're still not quite there yet.
Still a little bit more work to do there,
but this is an example where we're still learning
and adjusting our philosophy.
And speaking of learning and adjusting,
this is my best transition so far.
I'm telling you we had questions from all around the world.
I found myself translating Korean questions.
And there was one in particular from a player
name Sour Crout that I really want to ask because it's just the question was some raids
used to have fun vendors inside for repairs and upgrades. Why don't they include that
anymore and could we see that in the future?
Like Hyshal?
First I have to say is Sour Crout in Korea essentially kimchi?
I didn't inquire further.
Okay. Someone will let me know. I need you to know I'm very proud of having translated
this correctly. Yes. No. No. Thank you. Yes. So first of all, you know, we've kind of
had a darker tone. Things have been pretty serious. So kind of goofy, goofy sorts of
vendors would have felt, you know, not quite fitting with the story we're trying to tell.
That said, I don't see any reason why we couldn't put more of those in. It sounds great. Glad
I'm glad to hear that this is something that was enjoyable and we can definitely look at doing that.
We have more raids coming.
We do. It turns out.
Plenty of them. I'll say sauerkraut. We didn't know that you liked those vendors and so now that we know,
there's a much higher chance that you'll see more in the future.
Yes. Flipping all the way back around the world to Romania, I saw a player named Denny Boy say,
Can we talk about the sword some more?
He Denny boy asked if Sargeras is the only one that can come remove the sword
What what sword dude dude dude retiring that joke right here right now. Yeah
But the sword the sword is was questioned by by many players what yeah
Yeah, so I obviously don't want to spoil here.
As we talked about at BlizzCon, you can see the tip of the sword, actually, when you are
in the mantle vault.
Sargeras barely missed, assuming he was going for the world soul.
That's just as soon as he was.
He barely missed.
And you know, I don't want to spoil who or what is necessary to remove the sword.
I can promise that we are going to be dealing with that sword, but I want to make sure you're
all prepared for when that happens.
We prepared.
Got it.
Yep.
I think I know what you're laying down.
Okay.
A number of questions were about our new enhancements, things that are coming that surprised players,
And I just gathered all the questions up about Tailbound and put them all together.
And so what I saw was how replayable is Tailbound intended to be and what carries over between
runs.
Those are the main ones.
But I just want to ask you, tell us more about Tailbound.
Oh, absolutely.
As with any roguelike game or game mode, those are the questions that are top of mind.
And so, Tailbound's replayability is about the authored experience going through authored
levels with a known beast sherry that the player can start to learn and embrace as they carve
their own path through them.
Of course, they may not succeed on their first run, but should they succeed on their second
or third run, they will be able to unlock more difficulties on those levels on those
So they're doing a roguelike, more challenging mechanics, and tuning layered on.
All of those through the land, instead of like plunder or something?
They're classes who solve problems in slightly different ways.
But in terms of what's carried throughout a run and throughout many runs, inside a run
the player will run through the level and explore to find flasks and drafts and potions.
Those are on use effects that are consumable, and as they defeat monsters you'll collect
experience that levels you up and at each level up point you'll get a choice.
It's not too dissimilar from Torgast where you are gaining capabilities and ready to
take on a final boss.
Should you fail or succeed, you'll find yourself back at Quillgrave level one but with many
spoils to trade in with the various NPCs in Quillgrave.
Those villagers will give you improved starting stats, they'll give you ways to change up
your class talents, change the flask options that can be found in the world, both the variety
and potency, and the level up choices that you get will change based on how you upgrade
things back with the villagers.
Really common question about Tailbound, and I picked a version of this question from a
player named Cassiel.
The question is, is Tailbound a limited time event, or will we be able to play Beyond Midnight?
a very important question with uh... a more experimental style game mode
especially
when we have the servers up it's important that we dedicate resources to
support and enable maintenance for those servers
and there's also a lot of while to play right now and in the immediate immediate
future
and so we want to bounce these uh... but we're always open to player feedback
on when to extend or bring back events
a tail bound will be up from twelve one seven through twelve two five so
a good amount of time to try and fail and try and succeed
to bring back all your cosmetic rewards to midnight in time for Rat Remix.
Thank you very much.
I am going to ask the last question of this panel.
No!
Oh no!
We are going to have one more question and that is
from a player named Bagzax.
the question is, if any new playable races get added to WoW forever, will we be able to
see those races, including maybe Skyborne, eventually be added to Midnight, The Last
Titan, et cetera?
No.
Not for the World Soul Saga.
Not for the World Soul Saga.
You would not see any new race.
I can definitely say that won't be happening for the World Soul Saga.
I don't think we can squeeze in another new race at this point.
I think we're, as I said, we're about halfway through.
We're set.
We're ready to go.
It's just going to be go, go, go, go, go.
That would be difficult.
We still have a lot to pay off, so not for the World Soul saga.
But you never say never going forward beyond that.
We'll have to wait and see.
Something else in WoW Forever that I really like
is you're now creating a character with a first name
and a surname.
How about that?
Is that coming?
Not in the World Soul something.
Not in the World Soul something, all right.
Okay, so maybe next expansion though.
It's just, players are very, very excited.
What about the no server thing?
We've got a lot of questions about this kind of thing.
So thank you very much.
And that's it.
That's all our questions about,
while midnight, we're kind of on retail guys.
We've got a lot more questions to get to.
We're going to have the,
while forever devs out here in just a few minutes.
And I'm gonna carry on with them.
for now, thank you very much.
Paul, Maria, Jake, anything else?
Got anything else?
No, I mean, thank you all for playing Midnight so far.
We got a lot of fun twists and turns.
Hatch Fold 1.5 with Unbinding of Kithix Raid is on PTR right now.
A bunch of players are working their way
through the labyrinth of Kindojohn.
And there's all sorts of stuff beyond that in the roadmap.
So thanks for playing with us.
Thanks for your great questions.
And yeah, I'll see you in Azeroth.
Well, thank you for a good BlizzCon.
Again, we'll see you right back here in a few minutes
with the WoW Forever developers.
Thanks.
All right, guys, so those last few questions actually
was very curious on, even though, you know,
I haven't been playing a ton of retail,
are they going to bring over things like the fog,
like the extra lighting, like first names, last names,
like no servers, like Skyborne?
Because all of these things, let's be honest,
like WoW Forever actually looks like a lot of the features.
or even better than retail.
So I think the retail players are probably like,
yo bro, we want some of these insanely dope new features.
So I actually am curious if they're gonna bring these features
into the next retail expansion.
I don't know.
Like so far no, what's her name, Maria?
She said no.
So like for now, but maybe next time.
So we'll see.
What else is happening?
What else is happening good morning guys? I didn't know stream intro today. We went right from like
This oh ampie solace's cam on hi ampie and savage solace's cam on me safe. Okay, we went right from the
Roundtable discussion straight into the Q&A for retail we're gonna go Q&A for classic plus aka forever
And then we're going to get straight into the beta.
So this is going to be a big one.
Well, big day.
That's two ads right now.
Good call. I'll play ads right now.
Good call.
When can we download it?
Soon.
Should be.
Oh, update.
I just clicked update right now.
Initializing, please wait.
See what's going on there.
Anyway, we're going to keep waiting for this.
Remix means no Rathani.
Maybe we'll learn right now about Rathani.
I would be a good thing to learn about.
I don't know about Rathani, guys.
It would be cool to see about Rathani.
It would be cool to see what they're doing in mob.
Maybe those questions get answered here.
We'll see.
Foster check, yes sir.
Why would they waste time with Rathani?
A lot of people still wanna play.
I mean, it's Rath, bro, it's so good.
But yeah, now that Forever's out,
It's like kind of hard to even think about it.
You know what I mean?
Stay hydrated, y'all.
Yeah, guys, my throat, you know,
it's one of those things, but we're here.
We're doing it.
Why would they do Wrath Annie and Wrath Remix
at the same time?
Oh, true.
Wait, that's actually true.
Because they wouldn't do that.
Why would they do Wrath Remix and Wrath Andy?
Oh wait, but Wrath Remix would be over
by the time Wrath Andy came out, so maybe they would.
Ah, well, let's wait in here.
Let's wait in here.
I don't know.
I think they might tell us here.
That would be nice, because I'm dying to know.
I am hoping for classic UI as well.
Having said that, there's multiple people that are already making forever classic UI
add-ons.
Multiple people have reached out basically saying that they're working on it and it's
almost already done or it is already done so no matter what I'm gonna use an add-on
so I would have liked Blizzard to put it in though
What curse for it still exists? Yeah, add-ons aren't going anywhere, man.
Some are, but most of them will still be fine.
Put the beta countdown on screen.
Um, I mean...
Guys, it's right, like the beta's coming out right after this.
That's pretty much all you need to know.
are we gonna be making a guild of course yeah
I don't care for the beta under the assumption we're going to do some type of dual tournament.
I feel like I want to go ally because that's where so what is going and we'd probably do the dual turning or soda is if tips
Gets the funding to do a tourney. He's probably gonna do it where soda is
Which means I should probably be where soda is for the dual tourney
So I should probably get I should probably be ally which I don't care for the beta, bro
Maybe I'll do both. Maybe I'll do a little bit of both, but
That's ratios a lot of ratios are very good. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. We're live. We really are live
I'm Randy Jordan. You know me as Kyvax from the World of Warcraft community team. Here we go
And I am now joined by the Wow Forever devs. These are Josh Greenfield, Nora Mills, and our returning champion Tim Jones
Welcome back from BlizzCon. What a BlizzCon we had
And coming out of BlizzCon we asked for player questions and we got them
We've got so many, I want to go right to the first one as fast as I can because we got so many questions.
A lot of them were about this first topic, Josh.
I found a player named Maga Taurash who said,
What went into the development of the Skyborne Elves?
What makes them different from the Cinderay or the Quelduray?
Good question.
This is a pretty meaty answer, so I think I'm going to kind of start with the back half of this question.
okay uh... you know what in terms of what makes them different from the
sendora or the caldera uh...
they're essentially kind of cousins to those races you know they're all
the caldera is a uh... is that it's both a philassian and a darnassian word for
essentially noble people or or children of nobility
and they all kind of uh... he uh... hail from ancient calendar
uh... and
they've sort of just descended it kind of on different paths that
you know the uh... that the caldera who would eventually become like the blood
the elves of the Shendorai, fled across the ocean, ended up in
Quothaloss on the Eastern Kingdoms, and the
Skyborn or the Shendorai, they ended up
going a different path. It's a long winding road, I suggest you watch the
found photographs panel for an overview, but they ended up in
Skywall, which is in the elemental realm, the elemental plane.
In terms of what makes them different,
One of these two sort of offshoots of the high elves have have sort of suffused themselves with arcane magic and they become dependent upon arcane magic
Which obviously the Shindorai and the in Skywall they don't have that sort of font
The they don't have the Sun well
They don't have anything like that and so they've kind of suffused themselves with with more natural or elemental magic
And in terms of kind of what went into the development of the high the skyborne elves is I kind of want to
Sort of frame this question with an answer talking about like
I think a lot of people have asked, why not the Kualdora
or the Kualphalawesome?
I'll call them Thalassian high elves.
And I think the kind of simple answer is,
is kind of like why not both?
I think whenever Tim was up on stage,
he showed a picture of all of the areas
that we want to hit at some point
during our development, kind of the journey of wow forever.
Like I said multiple times, it's on the box,
it's wow forever, right?
Right, right.
And that's not things that we're like,
man, it would be really cool.
we should maybe think about that.
That's like things we intend to do at some point.
Okay.
And so, you know, we will be back to Qwelthaloss,
but in terms of the actual development process,
we started off sort of thinking, you know,
obviously in natural place where like we want to do elves
for a while forever.
And we ended up kind of, as we were going through
the development and thinking about Qwelthaloss,
we pretty quickly realized that
Qwelthaloss and our ambitions for it were kind of too big
for just kind of a simple starter or low-level zone.
And it was also sort of not the right time for it.
We talked about the time bubble
that WoW Forever takes place in.
And if you think of it as terms of the original
like first year of WoW, what that really means
is we sort of dilated that first year.
It's like a time dilation effect
so that we can sort of hit a lot of content
in between kind of the major beats.
If you think of the major beats in original WoW,
it's like, you know, molten core and backward layer
and Zol-Garub, et cetera, et cetera.
And also sort of, but we are following that chronology.
And so at the time that we're launching Wow Forever,
it's actually not quite the right time for us
for Quothalus either.
Interesting.
And so it's one of those things that I think we,
whenever we were sort of working through that sort of problem,
I guess, is it's like, yeah, you know,
we still really want high elves.
And one of the things we thought about was like,
what if we started the Lassian high elves in Northshire Abbey
and had them play through like that.
And I think that pretty quickly, yeah.
It pretty quickly kind of was like, well,
some people might be excited about that,
but it didn't really feel like we're putting our best foot
forward.
And once we started really digging into it
and really talking to different people on the team,
Chris Metzen, had a little bit of input on this.
And he kind of encourages, he's like, hey,
spread your wings a little bit.
Let's see what we can come up with.
And we were really excited about some things
that we wanted to do with, let's say, certain epic,
I would even say legendary original Wild Quest lines.
Did somebody say Thunderfury,
blessed blade of the Windseeker?
True.
Anyway, anyway, we had some ideas
and we realized that, you know,
kind of framing this and this race's origin story
and this sort of realm of sky wall
gives us a really good set of hooks
that we can sort of pay off later.
And I talked about that time dilation,
that sort of timeline when we get there to that content,
I think it will be something that has a really satisfying
payoff that we're super, super excited about.
And the last thing I want to say too is one of my favorite
things about the Skyborne is it gives us a really great
opportunity to explore class race combinations that
high elves have never really had.
And that's like high elf druids or Shindorai druids,
and also shamans, if you're playing on the Horde side.
We've never had a high-ealth sort of looking character
that could be Druids or Shamans.
And that's super-duper exciting from a gameplay perspective.
And we do have a question and a question and a search
on the WoW Forever team.
Really good answer from Josh.
Jeez.
Druid only players who are very excited about this.
And since you mentioned it, I just wanted to let it make sure
everyone knows all of the BlizzCon panels
that the WoW Forever dubs put on this past weekend
are on our YouTube slash Warcraft channel.
And I've also been posting those into our new
WoW Forever forums.
Every panel, you can go watch them right now.
Next question, huge question.
Saw so many of these.
And a player named Andormu asked, will character models
also have a classic skeleton option?
So Andormu said they noticed that even with classic models
chosen, the skeletons are still from the modern game.
They seem like they just have the old running animation.
I didn't actually realize that.
Very astute observation.
One of our core pillars is we want
to be both approachable and familiar.
And so how we interpret that as it
applies to character models is that in approachability,
we want people who aren't necessarily die-hard classic
fans to be able to come to our game.
And if they want to be optioned to have a higher fidelity character and those higher fidelity customization options on that character, we have an option for them to try out.
But also on the familiar fronts, we have the ability to play as an SD character model from Vanilla.
But in order to make the toggle work, there's some technical hurdles that we have to get over.
And we had to have parity between those models' animations.
And so we've painstakingly gone through all the animations
on both character models and made sure
that we have animations like Clay was showing at BlizzCon,
where the run animations are much less bouncy for dwarves
and across all race-gender combinations,
making sure that running, walking, swimming,
attack animations, and there's lots of attack animations,
spell casting animations, interact animations,
that those main animes are all grounded
in a very classic feel, even though the skeletons
for both HD and SD character models are shared.
But I would stress that the beta and getting this out
to our player base, we want to hear what people are
and aren't comfortable with.
So we want that feedback.
Tell us how you feel.
I just saw so many questions on this,
and I just want to ask you, can you just quickly run down
what our options are and what those options result in
as we're creating our character in WoW Forever
and then how the world looks?
Sure.
So when you first log into the game,
there will be a classic and enhanced version
that you can, mode options that you can select.
And when you're selecting a classic mode option,
you will automatically turn off quest tracking,
you'll automatically turn off transmogrification.
When you get to character select,
there will be a toggle option at the bottom
of all your character customization options
that lets you toggle whether you want an SD or HD character.
Now, that option exists outside character selection too.
You can just open up your game menu,
go to graphic settings and toggle this
in the world wherever you want.
Okay, okay.
That's exactly what I wanted to know.
I mean, a lot of these things are personal for me.
So many questions about Realmless.
We announced at BlizzCon that WoW Forever is going to be realm-less, I'll put air quotes
up because that's a new term for us, right?
I found a question from a player named Erwax from France and Erwax said, how does realm-less
actually work?
And then I have a second question from them, but first Nora, how does realm-less work?
Yeah, so really it's all about trying to decouple the player's social experience from
be kind of old method of just selecting a fixed realm.
I think the example that Anna gave on the deep dive panel
from BlizzCon weekend was really apt,
but basically when she approached Wow,
and she's just like, well, I want to play with my friends.
You know, let's roll on the same realm.
And discovering that there are restrictions based on what realm
you pick, even within the same rule set, normal PVP, and so on.
And so what realm list really means is the word, I guess,
itself is somewhat self-explanatory.
but in WoW Forever, you will be selecting a specific rule set rather than a realm.
It will be, you know, so normal, PvP, role play, or hardcore.
Similar to selecting a mega realm, it would be the vibe.
So you would be playing with other players within your given rule set.
That also means, oh, I guess I guess a good caveat is battlegrounds,
in which case you may end up with players from other rule sets when you queue for battlegrounds.
But for the most part, you'll be playing with players that are within your given rule set.
One of the other things I did see online was a little bit of confusion about whether you could kind of like hot swap between the rule sets with that one character.
It's a lot like current WoW were basically without a character transfer, you're not just going to be able to like flip-flop between, like I wouldn't be able to flip-flop between role play and PBE for instance.
And so no easy hopping between the real sets,
but we really wanted to balance kind of like seeing familiar faces with the flexibility of kind of trying to manage player populations in game.
Because as you can imagine, like the experience can get a little out of control if you try to cram way too many players in one given location,
but it's so important to us that you still see familiar faces and we want to like replicate that sort of neighborly vibe on a classic realm effectively.
So, then a follow-up question has to be how does this handle server-wide events, the opening
of the gates of Encarage, what does that look like in Realmless?
I don't want to share too much about Encarage specifically, but I will say that we are putting
effort into making sure that any events that should feel like a global effort should still
feel like a global effort.
So, players can look forward to contributing to some pretty big awesome fun event-type
stuff but yeah I'm being intentionally dodgy. What about Alliance and Horde on the same account?
You do not have on-carriage coming at launch. You mentioned hardcore. We don't have hardcore
coming at launch. That's coming later. But it will be when it comes it will be a choice
like RP or PvP. Okay so Nora I'm just gonna keep going on this because the question that
just blew me away. So many people from one part of the world wanted to get an explanation
for how it's going to go there. So I picked a question from a player named Truth Teller,
and Truth Teller said, Will Wow Forever use Sydney-hosted game servers for oceanic players?
And I'm curious if the answer is yes, how does that work for them?
Yeah, so we are, I guess I'll note,
we are going realm-less, but not region-less.
So we'll still have regions like EU, CN, and so on.
But yeah, Oceanic players are going to be, for the most part,
hosted on Australian data centers.
Oh, nice. Okay. I didn't think that.
That also means Oceanic players,
you also do still have the option to play with your US player friends.
You're also actually going to share
the same ruleset-wide auction house with your US friends as well.
Oh, okay.
I guess one caveat is if you do find yourself in situations
where you are mostly playing with players
from a very different geographic location,
your pin can vary as you may end up connecting
to their local data centers.
Basically, we're trying to pick whatever makes the most sense
for that group of players in a given area.
Interesting.
So I heard in California, I joined a group of friends
and they're all in Australia.
I'm going to be getting.
You're probably connecting to their data centers, yeah.
Oh, that's fine.
I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
I don't know if I'm willing to.
We might have to.
Yeah, we'll see you.
I found in our German forums, a player named Sarima asked,
do you have to choose a second name in Wow Forever?
So in Wow Forever, we have first name,
we have surnames now.
Do you have to put something in that field,
or do you have the option to still go with one name?
So yes, you do have to put something in that field.
One of the things that's at the forefront
of a lot of what we're doing in WoW Forever,
and it's kind of grounded in our very pro-social values
for the game, is just we want,
like player identity is really important to us, right?
We want folks to be able to kind of like be known
by their unique name.
And the thing I said earlier about Realmless being a lot
like if I choose role play, it's effectively like
I'm joining a role-play mega realm, right?
And that means a much, much larger player community
to play with, which also means a little bit less specificity
with the names.
Now, I will say names are region-wide in WoW Forever.
So that means if I create Nora Anihart
on the role-play rule set, that name
is taken for the PPP rule set as well.
So it is region-wide.
But yeah, we find that second name
Is it kind of a role play forward way
to reinforce that player identity?
And it still enabled people to have unique names
in WoW Forever.
Personally, it's something I'm excited for,
because it is something that's very unique
to World of Warcraft, I think.
So I think so.
And I'm personally excited to see what the players do with this.
Like, we just have no idea yet how they're going
to use first name and last name to make a family of characters,
to join someone else's family of characters, so forth.
Like just social media is going to be so good for a while while we see how everyone sorts
out their first and last name.
The difficult question that I saw so many of for you Josh and that came from a player
named W. Punk or maybe W. Punk, I'm not sure, but W. Punk said, is GDKP going to be allowed
for Wow Forever?
Oh!
Why or why not?
What are we doing there?
Yeah, this is a bit of an involved answer.
OK, yeah.
It's going to, I'm going to kind of bucket my answer up
with a few other different questions I've seen around this.
So I think the most important thing to us about,
the short answer is that no, we are not going to allow GDP.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, I'm happy with that.
I'm happy with that, but a lot of people won't be.
I think the most important aspect of that to us
is our first pillar, which is to nurture and protect
social experiences.
I think a lot of times concerns around GDP sort of get bundled up in the conversation
around RMT and things like that and I will come back to that, we will address that too.
Real money transfers.
Real money transactions.
Real money transactions, that's correct.
But the actual main reason that we are sort of not going to allow it in a while forever
is it has a sort of tendency we've noticed in the regions where it has been popular
for longer to reach a level of ubiquity that can kind of overtake the traditional guild
structure.
And that's one of the really kind of difficult things about being a game designer and managing
sort of a game at this scale is sometimes you have to make difficult choices.
And you know, we never really want to tell people how to play, but at the same point,
that is one of our pillars and we want to nurture and protect those social experiences.
And that also means the traditional guild structure.
The other thing too that we've found is that a lot of times once it reaches that level
of ubiquity. It's a really big barrier to entry for new players or players that just
don't have as many resources. If you're kind of the traditional carry or someone that has
a lot of resources and has been playing for a long time, it's great for you. You get a
raid and you get to make some money on the side, but the barrier to entry for newer players
is oftentimes they have to buy gold to buy into it. And that's something that we're taking
very seriously in a while forever. And that leads me to the second part of the question,
which is the real money transactions and the economy.
GDKP is an excellent way for bad actors to launder large sums of gold, and we do try
whenever we, you know, action accounts of buyers or sellers or bots, we try to claw
that money back, and it makes it more difficult for us.
And that's why one of the things that I'm really excited about too, about WoWForever
is that we are going to be very, very actively monitoring the economy.
One of the things that we hear a lot with GDP is like, well, I need this to afford consumables.
We didn't have GDP in season of discovery.
And the levels, especially once we get to level 60 and like sort of the rating economy
sort of settled the way you would kind of expect on an original while server, the economy
was excellent for a version of Benelal WoW was very, very good.
And part of that was because we were constantly managing, you know, the inflow and outflow
of resources like if we got to a new phase and nature protection potions were
very needed we had a lot of not you know levers we can pull and knobs we can turn
to affect the availability of things like elements or earth or dreamfoil
dude you know we have amazing under my real system which we are having in
wow forever because I didn't know that tarnished under my real in wow forever
yes correct it's it's kind of like a bat emblem of justice system
And what we had there was, you know, we had these kind of boxes that had met random resources
on them.
And that was another kind of lever we could pull to adjust the economy.
And when a certain resource got scarce, we could up the drop rate of it in those boxes.
And that gives you a lot of, you know, replayability for dungeons and things like that.
And it's great.
And the last thing we're going to do in terms of GDP, and it's just not GDP, but real money
trading in general is we are going to very aggressively punish gold buyers.
Yes.
Frank, we've been probably lenient on gold buyers and it's been a little bit easy to
get around some of our actions before and we are taking this very seriously.
And as someone who's got a 22-year-old World of Warcraft account, I can tell you it's not
worth losing it permanently.
It's not worth losing any of your accounts permanently.
So I would very strongly recommend that you don't do it.
not worth it. Yes, that's amazing. That's amazing. Our old friend, Omega, asked a
question that got my attention. Omega said, Will Wow Forever use the Midnight
Add-on API restrictions or the Classic API or something else? Yeah, so when kind
of sitting down to consider this, like I actually like that you listed it out that
that way, because we had to choose between do we want to go
the modern approach, classic approach, or some third thing.
And we have a lot of empathy for add-on developers
and their ability to also keep up with our patches,
our changes to those APIs, and so on.
So I guess to answer the actual question,
we did opt for the modern API approach.
That said, I will say, Boston counters,
and just a lot of things I think in WoW Forever
are just kind of a lot more simplified compared to modern.
And so I don't really necessarily think
that the combat restrictions necessarily
are going to really impact someone's experience negatively.
Our hope is that kind of unifying that API with modern
is going to be a lot easier to kind of keep up
with add-on updates and develop add-ons for our game.
I know it's a very common use case for example
for players to customize their UIs with the add-ons.
I personally love doing that myself.
We also very much don't want players
to feel like they need add-ons in order to play the game.
Because I don't know, myself and others on the team,
like we're add-on purists.
So I try to get by with very minimal add-ons.
And I'm delighted to say that we do also offer InWOW Forever
the damage meter, the cooldown manager.
And actually, additionally, I'm proud to say too, SwingTimer
perhaps coming soon.
Oh, sweet timer.
I get more people to feel like they can just jump in and play
without feeling like they absolutely
have to go download add-ons in order to hang,
in order to play WoW Forever.
So why do we want that is my question.
As an add-on impurist, what are we benefiting in WoW
Forever overall, the summary?
I mean, it's a lot simpler to be able to, like, if you're a new player coming to the game and, like,
you don't know about the slew of add-ons that are available, you don't even necessarily know where to look to go get the add-ons.
Basically, someone has to, like, adopt you, take you under their wing and be like,
oh, you don't use this, can trivialize this, you should use this to customize this piece of...
True, true, true, true, true.
Like, there are a lot of things that can kind of create friction in ways that aren't super social or fun, right?
because it can lead to some amount of gatekeeping,
if we go too hard on allowing add-ons
to be a critical part of your player experience.
And so we're trying to alleviate that
while still allowing players to have the freedom of utilizing
add-ons if they want to, if they such use.
All right.
Carrying on from there, Tim, I saw a question
from a player named Allystar.
And AllyStar asked, will forever include flex rating?
Smaller guilds, they can struggle.
Even with 20 players, a smaller guild
can have a hard time getting there.
Let alone 40 person raids, that's a lot.
So the question is, flex rating possible?
And then the follow-up question is,
will cross-faction rating be a possibility to solve that issue?
To start off with the beginning of that question, no, we're not going to start off with flex rating,
but one of the promises that we want to make, or that we are making in World of Warcraft forever,
is we want to support guilds of different sizes. At the beginning of Season of Discovery,
Some people really love the consistent ecosystem of being able to smash two five man groups
together and have enough people for a 10 man raid.
And that's the promise.
Every single tier that we will ever do will have both a 10 player raid and a 20 player
raid.
And we want it to be really easy for people to graduate from dungeon gameplay into being
a 10 man guild.
And if you have more people than that 10 man guild can approach 20 player content.
And in those systems, we want the content to be rich, deep, fulfilling.
The 10 man raids will have a lot of bosses.
I think we have eight or so bosses in our first raid, in the Barrow Deeps and even somewhere
around there.
even more in the in the hydro rate and you can get to your pieces across those
experiences. And there will be some people who want to do both and that's
awesome but we want our guilds and our social groups that really gravitate
towards 10-man content to have a consistent piece of end game content
that they can they can do and do it consistently and not have the rug pulled
out from under them. And then the second part of the question about cross-faction
gameplay. You know, this is vanilla, we're based in vanilla WoW. The Horde and Alliance
hate each other. We want to embrace the war in Warcraft, and so there's not going to be
any cross-faction play. Horde and Alliance are going to hate each other if they need
to fight. Good, good, good. We want to encourage World PvP battles. Very good. So yeah, that's
our stance on that. Alright, I just want to hit a couple other things that were in there.
40 person rating is on the table, is coming at launch,
and then potentially later.
That is correct.
So for launch, we have Onyxia's Layer.
We aren't going to have a 40 player raid every single tier,
but we're starting out with Onyxia's Layer
as kind of the first foray into having
an extra piece of rating content in addition to
the 10 and 20 ecosystems that we want to consistently support.
And on Nixia really serves as just call all your friends
in your guild together.
Call an extra guild to group up.
Go to Duswallow Marsh and raid on Nixia.
Get a ton of awesome loot.
Get some extra tier pieces and have an awesome time.
Nixia's head is on the table.
Of course, yes.
And I would like to understand a little more about how
dungeons fit into that ecosystem.
Like, you know, I'm playing World of Warcraft
every night sometimes and there's a lot of different difficulties for
dungeons.
Well, we are taking a hard stance
on across both dungeons and raids.
The instance is a single difficulty. There's no
heroic difficulty. I know some people have been seeing
multiple color variations of armor, those are just for offset pieces.
There's only one version of our 10 men raid. There's only one version of our 20th raid.
Same with dungeons. You get what you get.
Don't segment the player base.
Another subject that I want to make sure and just touch on before we go is transmog.
Because this is a bit novel, and so I just want to ask the panel,
Does anyone have something to explain about Transmog?
We mentioned it quite a bit at BlizzCon,
but players like, I saw a player named Rosalia came onto our forums and said,
could you provide some more details?
Can we just unpack Transmog so we can understand how it differs from modern well?
Absolutely. Yeah. One of the things,
I think it's really important when we were designing Transmog,
We really wanted to make sure that we were able to,
even if you haven't enabled,
maintain a lot of the silhouette that you would have had.
That's why things like,
if you have a cloth chest piece and you're a paladin,
you're gonna need to have another cloth chest piece
that you're gonna transmog over that.
And that is kind of important.
So it's obviously,
it's not gonna be completely kind of Wild West.
And then the other thing too that I think we're,
it's just, it's kind of unique and we're really kind of,
we think it's really cool.
It's just the ability to have multiple different pieces of armor per slot saved per set that
you have.
So again, if you're a healer paladin and you get a plate chest piece out in the world,
if you've designated a plate chest to transmog over that slot, it will swap to that plate
chest appearance when you equip the actual plate upgrade you get.
I think that's really cool because it gives you a lot of flexibility even within each
set.
and it allows the players who just don't care for it to hop out and
they don't have to care for it.
Yeah, exactly. You can pretty much pretend it doesn't exist.
So last question, because we have PVPers and a lot of PVP enthusiasts
just asking for some more information.
So Tim, how will PVP in forever be different
than, you know, other versions of World of Warcraft.
Specifically, there was this player named Last Rodeo in England
who asked, how will PvP in forever be different?
And so, you know, we're going to go to a Rodeo.
Sure.
And what happens with PvP in forever?
Well, like I said before, we want to embrace the Horde and the Alliance conflict.
PvP is something we want to heavily invest in and support.
We love the fact that people love dueling so much.
We love the fact that people love running battlegrounds.
There won't be any rated PvP, though we've re-envisioned the PvP ranking system.
There will be a new PvP track to gain honor in and level up through with your own unique
PvP rewards that will reset every season or tier.
They'll be aligned with our our tier and raid releases. Yep, and we've really taken care to look at
how people
Participate in battlegrounds and make sure that we've adjusted the honor so that people don't feel like they just have to sit in all Tarek Valley
Over and over and over so we want our brand new battleground dark spear islands
Which has a brand new reputation another progression track as well to explore and get rewards from we want that war song
Arafi Basin, more battlegrounds to come in the future, we want people to be
excited and rewarded for participating in all of those. More battlegrounds to
come in the future. Oh yeah, there is. That is a great thing. So I want to I want
to leave that there, but before we go, Josh Greenfield, tell us what you got.
Yeah, so starting next week I'm really excited to announce that we will be
having a weekly podcast. It's gonna be hosted by myself and Josh Corbett
of countdown to classic fame.
Josh and Josh.
Josh and Josh.
Just give me the Josh, I guess.
And we'll be having that weekly all throughout the beta
for the next six weeks.
So we're going to dive into a bunch of different topics,
talking about sort of the topic of the week,
whatever content is unlocked.
We're going to have guests from the team.
We're going to have other developers on to talk about things
that they've developed in systems, and features,
and content, a whole bunch of things like that.
And we're also going to have members of content creators,
and members of the community who are going to join us at various points as well.
I would like to join you at some point.
I would like to get on that too.
Make it Josh, Josh, and Josh.
So that's it and we're going to get out of here because
I have so many more questions.
There's a beta to open.
Beta.
There's a wow forever beta waiting for one of you to press a button and send that thing
live.
Yes.
We're going to go do that right now.
Thank you very much.
Yes.
Thank you so much.
Thank you everyone out there.
Press it, press it.
It was our pleasure to meet you at BlizzCon, to see you online, and to try to answer some
of your questions.
We will see you in the wow forever beta in a few minutes.
Okay.
Thanks.
All right.
All right.
Gee, geez.
I didn't want to interrupt too much.
A lot of info there.
I think officially I can say that I don't think there's anything that I know that you
guys don't now.
I'm trying to think if that's true.
I think that is true.
Now that with the PVP info out there,
so basically there's going to be seasons,
they're gonna reset kind of like a new tier comes out
and there'll be a new reason to get out there
in the world and rank.
There's no rating, but there's ranking, right?
So that's that.
Trying to think what else?
The transmog thing we knew, the server stuff we knew.
Okay, I have more questions though.
Can you make Alliance and Horde on the same account?
Yes or no?
Like we didn't hear about that.
What happens to Rath, what happens to Mop?
We didn't hear about that.
Hopefully we'll be learning about that soon.
People saying no.
I still want them to say it.
I think I might have seen that in an interview,
but that's crazy to me.
That's crazy to me.
One, you have to choose alliance or horde per account
for the PVP, like that's nuts to me.
What else?
Oh, she did say it in the interview, really?
I was literally listening and waiting for her to say it.
I never heard it.
Okay, I must be trolling.
Okay, so hopefully this opens up any second now.
They should just say play, right?
It's in the IGN interview.
Okay, what other questions do we have
that weren't answered there?
Of course, there's wrath and mop questions.
We got answered on PVP.
Reload it, okay, I'm gonna close and reopen.
Oh, the UI, like Ipro, yeah, I mean,
I guess since they didn't talk about it,
there's no chance we get the classic UI.
There's already add-ons being made,
so it's not that big of a deal, but still.
Okay, we're just waiting.
Why no arena?
I think the general philosophy is they don't want
any type of rating in the game,
because it's not supposed to be that.
It's supposed to be this casual experience
and get-out-and-play experience of the world, right?
Okay. Okay. We're just kind of waiting here. Just keep waiting. Servers are down. Wait,
how do you know that? Am I getting baited here? Am I getting baited? I feel like I'm getting
baited. Servers crashed. What do you mean servers crashed? They're not even up. Then
They haven't even put them up.
What?
No shot.
Am I the wrong thing here? You guys are trolling me. Absolute trolls.
I'm level 10 already. Nice guys, nice.
Nice.
What else is worth mentioning?
What else, what else?
It's gonna keep refreshing this over and over.
Oh, by the way, guys, I do have some beta key codes.
I think that's what they are to give away.
I think that's what they are.
I actually don't know what codes are these.
What codes are these, beta?
So I will be giving them away periodically throughout the day.
Ask it what exact codes they are, but we will be doing that today.
Oh, it's the Warcraft Forever Collectors Edition, which includes the Skyborne Epic Pack access
Access to Warcraft 3, oh wow.
Oh sick, I think that's what they are.
I thought it was just the beta codes, cool, even better.
I actually bought that myself,
so I'm gonna use one of these myself,
and you know what, it's all good,
it's all good guys, we'll give them away.
Okay, how the heck do we log in?
Log in through your folder,
There's no way.
Where, what, what folder is this?
Open file, it works.
Is it classic era?
Wait, classic era, classic, classic beta.
Classic beta?
I'm going to try to click on that.
Americas.
Yeah, seems good to me.
Okay, see what's going on.
Logging in.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
It still says the game can't be played yet.
I don't know if I'm being trolled here.
Holy crap. What else guys?
What else? I clicked play.
Maybe is that opening still?
I don't even know.
I clicked play. I don't know if I open it again,
if I just keep waiting.
I'm going to close this and then reopen it.
Guys, I think the servers may or may not be completely melting right now.
Open the file location.
I just did.
World of Warcraft classic underscore beta and then the app, right?
I can click it again.
Brings me to that.
Oh, oh.
Screen narrator.
Oh, no, don't shoot me.
What?
Guys, I'm not even logged in through this.
I don't know my password. Are you kidding me?
I'm gonna even get my phone in case I need an authenticator.
You're back.
Alright guys, we're back.
I mean, good thing we got these streamer accounts, because I mean, without these, that would
be rough.
Okay, let's do a quick, I mean I have one minute, should I try to do a quick giveaway?
I don't know if I have a lot of time.
I don't think if I try to do a quick giveaway.
I don't know if we're going to have time to do a giveaway right now guys.
We do have codes to give away all day long. I mean 680 maybe I do have time
579 maybe we don't have time
Commands
Giveaways keyword next oh
Guys, I don't know if I have time to do this
Because once this is once this goes we're logging in
We'll do a giveaway soon.
Do a giveaway soon.
Wait, we have not started the giveaway yet.
It's like, once this goes, we're going.
Once this is in, we're in.
We'll do giveaways all day long, guys.
Guys, the X-Range one giveaway isn't active yet, because I haven't started it.
Absolute rolls, guys.
We're doing it soon, but not yet.
Goodness gracious.
Holy crap.
Holy crap, man.
Syracuse aren't live, anyway.
We'll see in a couple seconds here.
See in a couple seconds.
WoW 12 or WoW 1.
I don't even have a WoW 12.
Oh my gosh, did I mess this up?
Beta. Region 251 or beta? Oh crap. I guess we're going beta. Oh come on!
What is that? I'm in the back of the queue? Oh my gosh, alright guys, we're into a
quick giveaway. The way the giveaway is gonna work. Oh, one sec, one sec. I got it. I'm gonna start
flipping around my options. Oh dude, I can pre-lock in and dial all my settings.
V-Sync, disable that.
Max FPS disable that gamepad network audio
guys I haven't started the giveaway I'll
let you know real soon here audio
sound and backgrounds there we go let
Let me get back to this real quick.
Okay.
All right, so we're gonna do a giveaway.
You people over on YouTube listen up.
I would do YouTube giveaways, but I can't
because there's no way to message you guys who won.
So in order to join the giveaway,
you do have to come to Twitch.
You don't have to watch on Twitch.
You just have to join on Twitch
so I can give you the code if you win.
So sorry, YouTubers.
This isn't because I don't love you.
This is because I literally can't message the winners.
Anyway, keyword, forever hype, if you guys want to join the giveaway, I'm going to start
it now.
Wait, did I do that right?
Okay, reset entries, okay, starting now, I reset them, so you type it again.
Is that working?
Yeah, that's working.
Okay, so we'll just wait a few minutes and then give one away and then we have more to
give away.
But just type forever hype and you're in YouTube once again, you have to come over to Twitch
if you want to give away just because on YouTube I can't DM winners. I've tried to do giveaways
over on YouTube and it's like completely troll. It's like okay you won but how do I actually contact you?
Okay and what you're winning? Blizzard told me is this.
What you're winning is this. This is what Blizzard said it's a Warcraft Forever collection
which is $80 value, Skyborne Pack, Warcraft 3, and Beta Access.
Which I actually just bought yesterday.
Blizzard. I mean, we could have had this conversation yesterday.
You know what? It's fine. All right, it's fine.
Give them all away.
You've been disconnected. Oh, come on.
Okay, I'm getting spam DC'd now. Anyone else?
It's not can't even sit on the login screen now
I'm sitting on this dude. This is a crazy crazy crazy moment. We are all about to hop in
For the first second or third time. This is nuts
Okay, there's like 2,000 people for this giveaway
We'll wait a couple more seconds and we'll roll it if you don't win. Well, you know, we have more to give away. Oh
Oh my goodness gracious guys the amount of subs coming in right now is absolutely ridiculous
Thank you to all the primes all the support. I can't believe it. I mean, this is unbelievable
This is absolutely unbelievable guys some of the biggest streams of my entire career like right now as I didn't even guys
I don't think this would be happening like this scale. It's it's not so thank you all this is absolutely crazy
I mean my yeah my yeah, I mean do the amount of Twitter
I mean the amount of primes coming in right now is literally unprecedented on this channel guys. Look at this.
I mean what is going on guys?
Every record is being broken on the channel right now guaranteed. Okay, we got to give this thing away.
Alright, we'll pick the first winner in five, four.
When you win I'm gonna make sure you're a human not a final. Damn it to you on Twitch.
Three, two, one, go. Congratulations. $80 value over two.
Bahiris, Precolon, followed two years ago. Nice, not a bot. Okay, Bahiris, Precolon,
gosh, I'm butchering your name. Yo, what call you BP? Yo, BP, are you in the chat?
Are you here? Are you live? Are you a human being or a bot? I'm gonna re-roll it
if you don't reply within like, give them like 60, 60, 90 seconds here. BP, we got a
dial in here. If you're not here we're gonna re-roll the winner. I'm just saying.
It's updating. While we're waiting to see if BP replies, I'm gonna re-open PNAT.
And then I'm also going to re-log in to see if I can get myself into a queue.
Okay, now it's just saying you've been disconnected. Let's go back to BP. BP, are
You hear oh my gosh. He's actually not here. Yo BP. Listen. We're gonna have to re-roll this if you don't reply sooner
Man, I'm gonna give you another 30 seconds BP
Brother, I can't believe this $80 value here followed. I want to give it to you BP. Oh
My gosh, this guy probably went to the bathroom or something
This guy was like walk. He's guys washing his hands right now. He left his computer guaranteed
He's gonna go get like a soda or like like something and then this is what happens
Unbelievable BP come back to me man
Brother RIP
Okay, fine if BP doesn't say anything we are gonna re-roll this BP you're breaking my heart
Okay, fine we're re-rolling she's maybe he's
Okay, he's working on something else. Alright guys, we're gonna re-roll this thing in a couple seconds here
I'm gonna double-check that this is here. This is here. This is here. This is here
I'm gonna try to log in again
And we've been disconnected again. Okay. Hi Pp your time is up. I
Love you, brother. I'm sorry. We're gonna re-roll in five. Good luck for three just type forever hype in the chat
two one
boom
Four year follow from the blummy the blummy. Are you here? Are you AFK? Are you a real person? Are you a bot?
Congratulations on winning the
World of Warcraft Forever Collector Edition, oh my gosh, is this got AFK too?
There's no way.
Yo, LeBlummy!
LeBlummy!
Guys, everyone, everyone's AFK.
Guys, we gotta lock in.
Is my thing broken?
How do I answer?
You just type, yeah.
Okay.
You're good, that's all you have to do.
Okay, LeBlummy, congratulations, since you're a four-year follow age, I know you're not
of bots so I'm just gonna send you a message over on Twitch. Yo yo. Grats. Are you seeing
these messages bro? I'm gonna send you over the first code right now. We have more codes
to give away we'll be giving them out all day long. So if you didn't win we'll just
be doing more. He says thank you bro. There it is. Enjoy. Thank you for watching for four
years. Okay much love dude, much love, much love, okay um we'll do another giveaway in
a sec here. See what's going on, can't play, can't play, I'm clicking it so won't let me,
I'm here. I'm DCC'd guys is anyone online level 60 already be honest cuz I'm trying to log in right now and play the game
Or I've got to say I
Like the OG you know I'm saying I like the OG portal like the OG thing here
Except it's like this is new back here, but like this is OG. This is new. This is obviously new
very nice
holy crap guys this is unbelievable absolutely unbelievable man crazy
guys well if we can't play the game here we might have to do another giveaway
here in a second like I was gonna space these out all day long but like so
people can win later in the day too but like you're blizzard we're gonna lock
in and dial here
of the
I'm trying to think if we should do a new keyword, because then the people that entered
like 10 minutes ago, 5 minutes ago were going to be AFK getting ships and soda, go to the
bathroom or this and that.
I might do a new keyword this time.
Okay, we're going to wait just a sec here.
I'm going to try to log in again, making sure that we can actually get in the queue if there is a queue.
Looks like we're completely disconnected.
I'm going to close this and then reopen it soon.
Maybe I'll just message John Blizzard myself.
Uh, hey guys, can you please let us in?
There is a couple of us, couple of us waiting to play the new World of Warcraft forever.
And we're all looking forward to testing out the new game.
So please just open up the servers already.
Cool.
All right, we should be able to get in any second.
I just sent Sean a message.
Perfect.
Good. Good, good, good. Good, good, good. New keyword? Okay, let me think. I guess we
have time to do another giveaway, guys. We should do a new keyword though, because people
might be afk right now. Giveaways keyword. What should the keyword be guys?
I'm gonna think of something. We're gonna think of something crazy.
Okay I've got it.
Forever hype 2.
Good luck guys. Forever Hype 2. There we go. Let's lock in.
Yup. Forever Hype 2.
Guys, if you're just tuning in, we're giving away some
World of Warcraft
Collectors Edition
$80 value, Skyworn, Epic Pack, Warcraft 3, Reforged Forsaken Kingdom, and Access to the Beta right now live on stream.
While we're waiting for the servers to become a Blizzard, come on.
Let's lock it in. Let's dial it.
Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard, Blizzard.
The play button is still great out, but we are doing giveaways forever hyped too.
Just like forever hyped too.
If you want to join in the lock in and dial.
Good?
Okay.
Everybody keep typing that, I'm going to see if these servers are up again because I am
a little antsy.
Says you've been disconnected over and over.
Yeah.
Alright, forever high two. Forever high two.
Guys, I never thought I would see
The chat moved this fast in my life
For everyone tuning into this stream. This is some absolute history here
I've been I've been live on Twitch for 14 years now
Basically next month is 14 years. This is this is unprecedented man unbelievable crazy
Okay, we still can't play the game so that's that means more giveaways
Okay, we're gonna wait a couple seconds here
There's 2,000 of you guys that joined the giveaway don't go AFK because I'm gonna roll it and if you win
You want to be able to say that that you've won basically?
I'm gonna ask you if you're a bot you're gonna hopefully say no and
Then we'll give you what you won right after that
Basically what's happening just type forever hype to in the chat. Yeah, that's all you have to do
It's just type forever hype to of flashbang man
Wow
Okay, let's wait till this gets, I mean, I guess we could just roll it.
Just double check this one more time, double check one more time, it's still great out, Blizzard, come on.
I wonder if everything's going okay on Blizzard's end, because they definitely said they were gonna bring it up right now, right?
Okay.
Alright guys, we're gonna roll a winner in 10 seconds, let's type ForeverHype2 in the chat.
10, 9, 8, good luck, 7, 6, 5, don't be AFK, 4, 3, 2, good luck, 1, rolling, 4 year followage
from Barney the Carney, there we go, we know you're not a bot because you're 4 years old,
4 year old followage, see what's going on here, Barney are you a real person, are you
Not AFK, please type something, Barney.
Barney.
Barney, say something.
Barney.
Barney, come on.
We're gonna get Barney a minute here, okay?
Man, this is crazy.
Guys, we can't, we cannot go AFK at moments like these.
I'm gonna double check if we can log in while we're waiting.
and
get Barney
I'm hearing reports that people can't type in the chat because they're spamming too hard
Maybe that's what's happening the party you can't actually type because you're spamming too hard
Guys you only need to type once to get into the giveaway by the way you need to type it one time once
We're going to party into the 30 seconds here, I don't know.
I'm seeing this, like people are continuing to spam it, so I would assume that wouldn't
be the case.
Man, I'm on a login so bad.
Barney, I'm sorry.
Oh my gosh, Barney, I'm sorry.
Hey! Oh my gosh! Barney, are you- so Barney, why didn't you type for two minutes, Barney?
I was just about to re-roll it right now, Barney! Barney, explain yourself!
What do you mean, hey? Yeah, man! Um, congrats, congrats on winning! Um, what have you been doing
the last two minutes? I'm curious, I'm really curious. Were you just taking your time to-
Cause I was definitely about to re-roll that any second. Unless Barney is a bot here.
Mmm.
Barney?
Talk to me.
Are you a human being?
Do you want this code?
What have you been doing the last two minutes? I have a lot of questions for you Barney.
I don't know man, this is a little sus.
Oh, maybe he can't type again or something. I don't know.
Maybe I'll message him on Twitch.
Yo, can you type in twitch chat?
I just messaged him.
No reply there either.
This is very sauce guys, very sauce.
Very very sauce here.
Suspicious here guys
No, no reply here or in the in the whispers I Barney's completely AFK now we got ghosted we got stood up
For logging again guys is anyone else bugging like me like oh my gosh, let me in be
Coming over from YouTube, I wasn't able to put even one thing in the chat for the giveaway
because it said too many messages too quickly.
Holy crap.
Guys, everybody, we need to take a deep breath, including myself.
No one can type.
Check their message log.
Slash user.
Okay, I'm checking this guy's logs.
That's actually some good comms here.
Oh my gosh, this guy looks like a complete bot.
Previously subbed for one month, the only logs this guy has is hay forever hype, and
then a giveaway from BlizzCon 2026, and then a giveaway from...
This guy's a long con botter!
Oh my gosh!
Long con bot!
He found him!
The only times he's ever typed in the last four years are entering giveaways!
Are you kidding me?
An actual bot?
He hasn't replied to me in the messages or here.
I might have to re-roll this, Barney.
Wait, how are you subbed?
Oh, maybe you got gifted a sub.
You've been following for four years and the only messages are giveaways.
Guys, do we all agree that's actually a bot?
Three messages in four years, only on giveaways.
That has to be a bot.
Oh my gosh, I can't believe this exists.
Wow.
Barney, you're breaking my heart.
What the heck?
I am here.
What about my DMs Barney you left me on red how many fingers am I holding up?
How many fingers am I holding up if you add both of my hands together Barney?
I don't know Barney how many fingers all together brother?
I'm gonna give you like 10 seconds on the math here, brother.
You can reply to me and whispers.
Oh, I don't know, man.
I'm gonna double check this real quick.
Wait, he messaged me just now and said,
I am here six fingers.
I am so torn right now, bro. Like this is clearly a real person now
Huh
Yo Barney explain to me what's going on. He said I'm here. You are holding three fingers on each hand
This is nuts, bro
I'm pretty sure this actually is a bot, but it's probably some guy who like now is on the computer
Because he realized that the bot want to give away
Or something I have no idea. I have no idea
He says I never talk in chat not a bot
I mean, he's he's replying now. He's definitely replying now
He's definitely replying now. I'll double check to see if the service are up
Now I feel kind of bad. It's like cheese
He found the account yeah
Quiet viewers have rights to I mean yeah, you could be a lurker and win
that's fine but like something something's telling me it's definitely a little on the
sauce out of things man I'm not going to lie.
I mean, we have more to give away too.
Guys, do we just give it to a bot, a potential, a potential, an alleged bot that could technically
not be a boss. That could be a lurker. We have more to give away anyway. He's, he's,
he's messaging me back in DMs and he does watch the stream. He's a lurker. He doesn't
type much. He just enters the giveaway because like why wouldn't you? I don't know if I
believe him or not, but I guess we give it to him. He told me some stuff in DMs that
like a bot like like a person would watching the stream would only know
Okay, okay fine fine. All right, we'll give away more anyway. We'll give more. We'll do another one anyway. It's fine
I don't know if I'm a hundred percent convinced
But that's fine
Here we go
Okay huge congrats
Maybe maybe this guy's very legit, and I'm a complete
moron
That is very possible. All right, I just I gave it to you check your DMs man. Congrats Barney
Well since since they're like yeah, we'll roll another one right now. How does that sound guys type forever?
Hype to in the chat
This is for any one watching forever hype to in the chat you do not need to be a sub but subbing with prime is free
Okay, you do not need to be a sub is it a full viewer giveaway. It's an $80 value. We're giving away this right here
$80 Warcraft Forever Collection, Skyborne Epic Pack, Access to Warcraft III, Reforged
for the Second Kingdom.
You get access to the beta as well.
Good luck, have fun guys.
We're going to re-roll in 5, 4, Forever Hype 2, 3, 2, 1, go.
I clicked re-roll, it's lagging.
I definitely clicked reroll, didn't I?
Okay, worked.
Manalo vibes, two years.
Yo, it's actually kind of sick.
It's like a bunch of OG, like two year, four year,
three year, one year.
Manalo, are you a human being?
Are you a bot?
Be honest, don't lie to me.
Following two years, I'll give you a second.
In the meantime, I'm gonna keep,
trying to log in here.
We'll keep doing more giveaways throughout the stream.
Manolo vibes.
Guys, what is happening?
Are people really struggling to type in the chat because the chat is spamming too hard?
Is that what's going on?
That actually might be an issue.
No, yes, no, no, no, okay, okay, and all the vibes.
Give you another minute here.
I could DM him on Twitch.
Maybe he's having trouble typing in the chat.
I'm gonna DM him just in case.
I'm DMing him just in case here.
Oh, he messaged me instantly back in the DMs, yo.
Can you not type on Twitch chat?
He instantly DMed me.
You must be having problems typing. I'm on mobile right now at work LMAO
Yeah, you this guy's very legit the way he's typing a bot would never type like this very legit guy
congratulations
Yo, GZ enjoy
The rest of your day
All right, I gave you the code. Congrats Manolo will do another one. So whoever wins maybe I'll just whisper them because it seems like
Everyone's replying to whispers guys. Who's the first guy that won the giveaway?
Who's the first guy that won do you guys remember his name because I should whisper that guy maybe he couldn't type
Me nice guys
It was like BP or be
Yeah, who was it?
Let me see if I can find out who.
Yeah, people are messaging me on Discord saying that they can't type in the chat because messages
are being sent too quickly.
That's actually insane.
Bakuris Pricklin, I think that is the guy.
Yeah, that is the guy. Let me double check.
Yeah, I got him. Alright, I'm gonna send him a quick message.
Yo, yo, are you here?
He says, yo, he inserflated the DMs.
Yo, yo, you won first giveaway.
He says, I'm stressing. I think I'm gonna give it to this first guy since I
re-rolled assuming he wasn't here, but it was really the bug.
So this guy deserved a win.
He says, I know I was shaking.
All right, yo, I'm giving this guy a code, too.
So we're four codes deep, guys.
Here you go, man.
Enjoy, craps.
OK, I gave him the code.
So my bad on that.
Whoever wins, I guess I'll send him a DM
because Twitch's chat is, like, broken.
OK, I'll see if we can log in now.
guys we're insta dc'd we're literal insta dc'd man get me in here
get me in here man they changed their status to under maintenance do you guys
think like there's so many people trying to log in that they just like screwed
over everything. I'm gonna try some other stuff real quick. Nope, that's not working. Nope,
not working. Oh my gosh. Guys, do we have any secret technology? Do we have any secret
attack on how to, how to cube it up.
What's going on?
What is happening?
Yeah, guys, when we do another giveaway,
we'll pick a new keyword.
What game version?
Classic forever, it's like a different one on the launcher.
World of Warcraft forever is what it's called here.
Unless you're supposed to play from like one of these.
1.6 0.1 0.6 9 8 9 3. That's what I'm that's what I'm sitting on right now.
Literally just waiting and sitting on. Are you guys on the same exact version number as me?
Yeah, and you guys are all sitting here just like me. Okay, we're in this together then
See this is I mean this is ridiculous. This is absolutely ridiculous
Absolutely ridiculous
Oh, come on.
Oh my gosh.
Everyone in the game right now, is it really good?
Is it really fun?
Are you level like 30, 60, 100?
Did you kill, did you clear Moltencore already?
BWL, Naxx, is Naxx out?
How's the tier four, tier 3.5 content?
How's the new raid?
Oh my, dude, this is like insane.
This is insane.
Calm on man.
Okay, we'll do another giveaway in a sec here if the server search is not actually not coming
up. Let me sec. Okay so if I did this and I just played this gameplay footage and went
like this then like there's a lot of you guys tuning in that would think that we're playing.
Okay so I could just technically do this and pay everyone but I would never actually do
But I'm saying that I could if I wanted to which I wouldn't what if I do play this footage in the background
Then people might think that that is the case which I wouldn't do
Okay, nice nice fireballs good. Okay sleep that nice. Yeah. Oh lay lines good. Okay
Unbelievable guys, I would never do that ever would I do such a thing never ever ever would I do such a thing?
goodness gracious
Reopen your game flying. Yeah, I'll fall for that. Let's do it
Okay, did it
Guys, if you're Blizzard, why do you do this to us, Blizzard?
You said it was coming up like 30 minutes ago and now all of us are real like real antsy
here.
We're on the edge of our seats to game up.
This is insane.
Maybe they're doing this on purpose.
they're getting in our heads to do this on purpose. That has to be it. That has to be
it come on come on man come on man all right guys real quick what race class
combination is everyone going right now what's happening what race class combo
is happening. I see a lot of Undead Paladins. Real unique guys, real unique. No, I actually
can't blame you because I'll probably make an Undead Paladin at some point. I actually
can't even fuck her up. Undead Polly looks so cool. Okay, come on man. Blizzard, Blizzard,
Blizzard! Blizzard, come on! Blizzard, what is going on? Deep breaths. Deep breaths. Deep
Deep breaths, deep breaths, deep breaths, deep breaths.
What level am I?
Just two man.
I just started.
Oh, this guy took my mob too.
Unbelievable.
Thanks for the love, man.
Absolute troll. Absolute troll. Absolute troll. Unbelievable. Biggest troll ever.
How can anyone read this chat? You're telling me. We're on slow mode, by the way. What the heck?
Okay. Blizzard. I'm gonna try this again.
I'm gonna try this again guys. We're trying this again. Nope. Worth a shot though. Worth
a shot though. Don't log on to her WoW 12? I think it's just a typo or something. It's
It's supposed to be WoW 2.
I don't play on WoW 1.
Oh, it says Realmless is not currently available, but there is no realms.
That's true.
Come on, man!
Come on!
Guys, do I try to do one more giveaway right now?
But it's gonna come up any second it's gonna come up any second then we're gonna be mid giveaway, and I won't be able to play
I mean I guys I already messaged John Blizzard I told him I told him to put the servers up
I don't know what they're waiting for man
Reopen the launcher, there's an update czar. Yeah, I closed it, reopened it. We did everything
then. We're just waiting. We're waiting right now. Well, we're just watching some b-roll
in the background too while we're waiting because obviously I want some type of b-roll
I'm not just gonna like sit here. That's that's what's going on there. Yeah
Seven more minutes is my guess you think they're gonna put it up on the hour, huh? Okay
From her hold
You know I'm dying over here all right fine let's do another giveaway while I'm playing
in the background we'll do a brand new giveaway new keyword it's gonna be actually we gave
away four already right is this the fifth one I gave away four this is five forever
Hyper Hype 5. Good luck. Just type Forever Hype 5 in the chat. If you guys are just tuning
in, we're giving away Warcraft Forever Collection, $80 value, Skyborne Epic Pack, Warcraft 3,
Reforged, Forsaken Kingdom, and Access to the Beta, which you can play any minute now.
Just type Forever Hype 5. Guys, you only have to type a one so you don't have to like break
to shatter anything just type forever hide 5 and you'll be good deal yeah just
forever hide 5 and we're locked in and dialed
sick
sick we'll let that go for a second and then we'll roll it in the meantime I'm
going to check some more stuff here. Oh, come on, man.
I think we're all on edge right now. I think all of us are
pretty on edge right now.
Forever height five in the chat, we're going to roll the
the winner for the giveaway in just a minute here.
I'll send you a message if you win,
because it looks like the chat is just like,
it's going nuts.
We're doing a quick giveaway
while we're clustering here in the game.
Hi, Bluestone.
Is there any blue post going on?
Like, oh my gosh, there is a blue post
from zero seconds ago.
Oh no, it's just covering the live Q and A.
Okay, well, let it run.
All right.
Everybody one last time forever hype five in the chat.
You only need to type out one time.
Good luck, have fun.
I'll ask you a question to make sure you're not a bot.
We're going for the Warcraft Forever Collection. This is the fifth one to give away. We'll be giving away more throughout the day. If you don't win, we'll roll some more.
Good luck, have fun. We're picking in five, four. Good luck, three, two, one.
Cosmos five.
Yes, two-year followage. Langeritz, are you here? Are you a real person? If you don't reply in a couple seconds, I'll send you a DM assuming it's bugged.
Congrats on the wow forever collector's edition.
Hi.
Okay.
So, Langeritz, you are here.
I'm going to send you a whisper over on Twitch.
Yo.
Yo, yo, yo, big G.C.
Are you real or bots?
This is about the fifth one we're giving away.
under beta under your email guys I don't think that's what it is I don't know if
that is even what it is oh my goodness he's not he hasn't replied yet guys he
hasn't replied yet I asked are you real are you a bot he hasn't replied I'm just
saying I think I'm a little on edge today but it's like if you wouldn't give away
you probably want to say you're a real person okay oh my gosh goodness gracious
and guys I think it is I will we do have to take a second to recognize one
thing right now in 14 years of streaming this is the largest stream we
have ever had on Twitch and YouTube this right here is breaking every possible
stream record ever, so thank you all for being a part of it. It's absolutely insane guys.
14 years of streaming right now, if you're watching somewhere around the world, or breaking
every possible Zaru stream record, alright, that's nuts, absolutely nuts. Never could
imagine in a million years, I was actually just going to the restroom a second ago and
I was just thinking like, why me? You know what I mean? Like what the heck is going on?
than I do. Diabunch and hardcore. Two searing ghouls, is that what it is? Is it my hairline
that looks like a McDonald's sign? It can't be all my rank 1 titles, right? And it is
a lot, but it's not like... I mean, it's a lot. I mean, there are a lot of them guys.
I mean, there's a lot of them. You know, Langeritz... Thanks for watching, guys. Seriously,
means a lot. Langeritz, you haven't replied at all. To the whisper on Twitch or in
Gai. I'm gonna have to re-roll this if you don't reply, brother. Check your, you
can type in the chat or the whisper to get you your code. We're gonna have to
give it to someone here in a second. Now we're checking if there's an update while
we're waiting on Langeritz for the giveaway.
Okay. No update yet here. We'll just keep doing that.
I can't chat in DMs. Okay. So the DMs are broken for you, but you can chat here. Okay.
Langer, can you see the DMs? If I just send it to you, can you read it? Maybe you can't
chat because of some type of setting, but can you see them?
So I can just send you your code if you can see it.
Lots of crazy things going on Twitch right now.
Oh, we can't reply because of the slow mode.
I'm going to briefly turn slow off and then we can redo it.
I briefly turn slow mode off.
Guys, stop, everyone stop spamming.
This is for Langeritz, okay?
Everybody stop spamming, guys, we can...
Guys, guys.
Langeritz.
I turn slow mode off, you can reply.
Can you see DMs so I can send you your code here?
Wait, the chat actually did slow down.
You guys actually did listen.
Thanks guys.
I mean, some of you guys are completely troll.
But it actually did slow down.
You guys own.
There we go.
Langrids.
I think I just send him the code.
Because, I mean, he's a two year follow.
I think you just check the code in your DMs when eventually you can find them.
I think he's having trouble typing.
Okay, I'm just gonna send it to you man reach out somehow if you don't get it, but
This is the fifth code two three four five here we go
Here you go GC okay, we'll do more code giveaways later today guys
If you didn't win we'll keep giving more out okay good luck
Um, thank you, great, awesome, cool, you're applied, okay, now let's check this again.
Nope, okay, and then we're gonna check this again, everyone's saying it's live, no way.
I'm trying I'm trying typing in my password we're trying here
We're trying
Restart my client maybe I don't know see what's happening. We're trying
Deep breaths here deep breaths here
I'm going to go through the folder again. Maybe that'll help. I still don't see a play button. We're going through the folder again
Maybe that'll help
It's opening through the folder right now brings me to this
Restart your entire PNET client. I'll try that
It's completely closing PNET and reopening PNET
I
Forever hype six guys will do the next giveaway. It's just not up
You guys were trolling me okay hold hold hold hold hold hold guys come on
Oh my gosh
Oh my gosh, bro.
Hey, at least it's clickable.
Yeah, at least it's clickable.
That's Prague.
Someone said, I can't believe they're able to recreate the feeling of trying to log into
a crappy 2004 server.
You know?
Well done, Blizzard.
Well done.
This is exactly how it felt. Not being able to play. Nice.
Come on man. We gotta lock this in.
Yo, if anyone finds some secret tech on how to get in, just let me know.
All right, just quietly let me know we've got to get in here ASAP
Come on
I think I'm just gonna keep closing this and reopening this it has to be the technology the advanced tech come on
It looked good for a second it looked good for a second
Yo, Matthew, thanks for the $100 Super Chat, brother.
I appreciate it.
Catch everybody for subbing, supporting.
I'm missing so many, guys, we're a little overwhelmed on my end, but thank you so much
for all the support.
Seriously, you guys rock.
I got it by changing the czar, you okay?
I'm just going to keep doing that then.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Okay, just gonna keep doing this just gonna keep doing it
Okay, hold
My wow classic has an update but
But my WoW forever is good, so I don't think I need to update Classic.
Come on try again gonna keep trying
Okay, play it
No rip
Mine updated and that play is grayed out again come on
Guys, can we talk about this login screen?
How nice this looks?
It's like the old and the new.
I like it.
It's plain and basic, but that's what I want.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not overdone and like over, like, how you teach this on old and new.
You know?
Clean.
I like it.
Oh my gosh, bruh.
Login to beta under your email.
I just have WoW 1 and WoW 12, which is weird because I don't even have a WoW 12, so this
must be the beta WoW 12.
Try WoW 1?
I already tried guys, it's not WoW 1.
Come on man, come on man!
Guys, yeah we're not doing the next giveaway yet.
Is everyone spamming the giveaway right now a bot?
Is that?
Are you guys all self-reporting?
Are all the people spamming foreverhype6 actually just bots?
Cause I'm saying guys, we're not doing the giveaway yet.
We'll do more giveaways, but we've already done five.
We're going to show up for a second and do some more.
Come on, man.
Please.
Okay.
Five been out of here.
Five been out of here.
I guess we could check out some more gameplay.
In the meantime, I guess we could probably.
might as well watch something.
Okay.
I'm sure these servers are gonna be on fire.
They get to test out their new no server tech very soon here.
On a very large scale.
Reload launcher? Yeah, we'll try.
Wait, if there is no server, that means they can't be on fire, technically.
Bruh, keep trying, I'm trying guys, I'm trying, I only got one update, I didn't get a second
update yet.
One client as admin, is that going to just get me in?
Forever hype 7?
Nice guys, nice.
My play button just went live, but my play button's been live, but it doesn't do anything.
Servers are in maintenance mode, that's impossible, because there's no more servers.
That's it, I think.
The chat is going to brick my computer, yeah, mine might overheat, too.
Okay.
It's waiting. We're just waiting. We're waiting to log into play. It's waiting to log into
play right now guys come on come on
brah guys is this a marketing tactic from Blizzard or is there something wrong
on their side where they're just like oh crap we forgot to put this live we
can't do it is this marketing or like legit like something is happening over
their servers are like on fire I think something's happening over there I think
something is happening this is marketing 100% I don't know imagine your
blizzard right now and like that the one guy that was supposed to put the
servers online like overslept or something or like forgot like a key
critical detail like you forgot to install them or something and it's like
yeah I don't know I don't know what it is man now we just have to sit there and wait
it's all we can do we can all we can do is just sit here and wait there was nothing else we can
actually do
It's wow forever because you can never log in. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah, we're gonna try again here. I think we just keep trying this. It's like the thing that would
would make the most sense probably.
There's another update.
Bro, I have another single update.
How are you guys getting these updates?
How is this possible?
Aren't you playing it now?
Yeah, yeah, guys, I'm like, what this is,
is me playing the game at BlizzCon.
And we're also waiting for the servers to come up.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm clicking play.
Hold, hold.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, okay six minutes. Okay guys six minutes. Oh my gosh six minutes six minutes
Six minutes. This is it. This is what we've been waiting for all day. Oh my gosh
Okay, six minutes. This isn't gonna be too bad
That actually might be enough time for one more giveaway that actually might be enough time for one more code giveaway guys
This is unbelievable.
This is actually unbelievable.
Okay, yeah, let's do another giveaway.
I cannot believe my computer is actually still operating.
This is Nuts, Nightbot.
Okay.
This is the sixth one.
So it's going to be Forever Hype 6.
Just type Forever Hype 6 in the chat.
We're going to be giving away the epic, or heroic, or...
Hold on.
What are we giving away?
The Forever Collection.
That's what it's called.
We're giving away this we're giving the forever collection $80 value beta access
We have six minutes till we're logged in hopefully
We have a sky born epic pack warcraft 3 forsaken kingdom
We've given away five is me six when we're giving away except forever height six guys if you're on YouTube
Since I can't whisper YouTube winners. You'll have to come over and type on twitch
So if you're on YouTube, you just have to come over to twitch type forever height six you have a chance to win
You don't have to keep watching on YouTube if Twitch if you don't want but I have to have to do it this way because I can't DM winners on
on YouTube
Six minutes estimated time position in queue 2958 wait, so you're telling me I have to wait for
2958 other people to log out because right now they're completely full. Oh
My gosh a thousand people logged out. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh guys. We're only four minutes off
Holy crap, they're letting us in in chunks.
Alright, I'm going no mage, no big surprise here, but we're gonna lock it in.
We're gonna L and D baby, okay, it's gonna be wild.
Holy crap, I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Okay, four more minutes, four more minutes, four more minutes.
Guys just type foreverhype6 in the chat, you only have to type it once, you don't have
to spam.
Foreverhype6 in the chat, it's just completely fine.
Yeah, we're chill.
Very chill.
Very, very chill.
Whoever wins has beta access as well, so you can sit in a queue just like me.
It's really fun. Trust me.
Four minutes, four minutes.
OK, we're going to roll this in five seconds
Cuz this is gonna probably take down here soon for good luck guys forever hype 6 3 2
1
Good luck. Have fun
Six years ago. Yes, okay nice it always it always sketches me out when it's like followed 30 seconds ago
And I'm like oh crap is this gonna be a pot here or what?
Creed six-year followage legend
Creedz, are you here? I'm gonna send you a message too, and that might be easier.
Yo. You can reply to me at DMs, you can reply on Twitch as well.
Yo, cool, you messaged me. Great. You won the 6th Code giveaway, man. Thanks for following
for six years. Thanks for supporting the content by watching. That's what we're talking about, man.
6. This should be the sixth code. Yeah, okay. This is number six. Grants, bro.
Cheesy, enjoy. Thanks for watching. Thanks for supporting. Guys, two minutes until we're in.
Holy crap. Got to authentication and instantly got kicked. No way. Don't tell me that. Do not
tell me that. Wait, are you guys getting kicked out once this gets in? Are you guys getting
kicked out yes oh gosh spoilers guys once this hit zero we're gonna kick back
out I need some streamer cue for this unbelievable
dude dude my client keeps crashing dude yeah I mean yeah we've been we've been
trying to get in. Any type of technology to get in right now. Anything bro. Anything. Anything
at all. Press escape to skip the queue. Don't do that guys. Do not do that. Wait Akren just
tweeted he pressed the button button that does nothing yeah true yeah true yeah
less than a minute guys please don't kick me back out please don't kick me back
out blizzard listen please don't get me back out this is important 96 guys 80
we're top 100 come on 64 all right 48 come on 32 16 7 whoa I hope I picked
the right one retrieving server information there's no more servers
There's no more servers. What do you mean retrieving servers?
Come on, come on agren give me the info. I
Don't want to go back to the end of the line man. Is this what happened to you guys? You're just sitting on this. Oh
Come on
Yeah
Guys, the front of the line is a lie.
You get put right back to the end.
Wake up guys, it's a cycle, you just keep going.
Around and around.
There's nothing when you get to the front.
It's been a lie the whole time, they've got us.
Unbelievable.
That's why it's called WoW forever!
Like, we're literally just gonna be stuck on this for like, oh my, dude.
It's a Q simulator. That's what we're paying for now, man.
what is this what is this 13,000 Q guys the higher your Q number the better
all right it's hard to explain the higher the Q is way better yeah we'll do
One more giveaways soon.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
Alright everybody that is in the chat right now, what is your Q timer?
Or what is your position in Q rather?
I'm 13,000.
Is anyone higher than me?
20?
10,000?
700, bro, I should have been slower. This is ridiculous.
Interesting.
Oh, wow. Hang on. Here's my phone.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
He's doing his authenticator
Just dropped my phone and cancelled
Same thing oh my god
Same bro same bro
Guys I was already in and that kicked me out how what the heck
I didn't even drop my phone.
What is this?
12,000.
I guess we're all in this together, huh?
People saying Summitsyn?
Oh my gosh some it isn't guys how does summit get in before us are you kidding me oh
My god looks so good. Oh, it looks so good look at the shadows
Look at the shadows. Oh my gosh
Oh, it looks so good
Everyone is undead. We'll see see what happens
Dude, there's so many people online what the heck oh
My gosh, I see an undead paladin
I see oh my gosh, I see a priest. Oh my gosh
Oh my gosh. Everyone's gaming. Look at the fog. You can't even see anything. Oh my gosh,
The fog is so intense.
That this is crazy.
Don't select WoW 12 again.
I think I have to select WoW 12.
Wow, one doesn't have it
Too much fog hopefully we can like have a fog slider
Holy crap, I want to game up so bad. Oh my gosh, bro
It's a bug reporter too
Dude, it's in- yeah.
Deep breaths here.
Combine backpack.
That looks nice.
I actually like combined backpack a lot.
There's so much fog inside of a building because fog like creeps and moves down in the shadow grave. That's right
Yeah, we got him twice and got DC'd it just it just keeps resetting
I'm gonna cry if I get kicked again
It might
You got kicked twice now. Oh my gosh guys if we get kicked again, it's gonna be yeah, we're at 10,000 in queue
but
Okay, I guess we just we just watch everyone else play them
Payos in two oh
No payo is pretending to be summit absolute troll
Absolute troll. I was like why didn't he put his camera up there?
Who would pretend to be summit man crazy as we move up here for a little bit. It's not feeling good over there
Guys if some of the only guy in this is crazy, what the heck
Unbelievable
Oh wow sorry you picked a rogue. True. Yeah.
IDC'd again on retrieving server info. I didn't get in again now I'm back to a queue.
I don't know how it's choosing who to let in and who not to let in but like I think
a lot of people are sitting the whole queue and then getting kicked out to the back and
and then sitting a whole queue and then getting kicked out to the back.
Again.
That's what keeps happening.
So I don't know how we're actually going to get into this thing.
What the heck?
I'll just give up and watch Summit today.
Oh, everyone! Oh, guys!
Are you guys hitting the same thing as we're getting, where it gives you like, wow 15 or wow 1?
Or like WoW 12 or WoW 1 or like WoW 10 or WoW 1?
Like that, everyone is getting that.
No? Yes? No? I just got WoW 1?
Weird. That might be what's causing the bug.
I hit WoW 1 and got booted. I hit WoW 12 and got booted.
Hmm.
Bro, the game looks so good. Like actually so good. Oh my gosh.
I had no options and got booted.
I think it's supposed to be the number.
The one with the number. Cause that's the beta. I don't know.
Rewind summits bot to see what he picked.
Um, that's actually a good idea.
That's actually a good idea. Let's go into summits bot and see what he picked.
A lug in. That's actually very smart.
We'll go back in a sec
Dude it looks so good what the heck you think it looks way better at home
Okay, here we go
Login servers are full, login servers are full, retrieving server info, and then right
away it says normal or pvp, he chooses pvp, logging into game server, he never even got
the popup.
Okay, I'm at 8000 now, nice, I mean, we might just get DC'd again, to be honest.
Yeah, I have no idea I
Don't know guys. I don't know if it's wow one or wow 12
For the people that are in did you guys choose one or did you guys choose the number that you had?
People have like wow 10 while 12 while 7 while 8 whatever
Or you guys just you guys didn't have an option weird
So like my sub is on wow to
Wow one. I don't have a sub on you'll be transferred to another shard in five minutes. Oh, that's cool
That's really cool. So you can
You can choose when the layer
That's nice
That's really nice
You might have to reinstall the game. Oh my gosh.
You picked one you normally pick, so pick WoW 2. WoW 2 is not on there. It's WoW 12 or 1.
I normally play 2. That's what's kind of weird. I would assume it's WoW 12.
I think it's something like Bug.
Okay, 7000 in Q, we're almost back to where we were guys.
My main account wasn't an option, I had to choose another that I never even subbed on.
I think that's the issue.
People with multiple wow accounts on a single Bnet are getting screwed, same thing happened
to me. I don't see my wow account with my active sub. Okay, so if you have multiple
wow accounts, it's like bugged. So for people with multiple wow accounts,
as many got DC two, yeah, everyone's getting DC'd.
For people with multiple wow accounts, did you guys choose one or the other one?
I have one account I'm in. Oh, maybe that's what's happening.
I got the seed and I only have one account
Man, I don't know I don't know because I'm gonna be in in a few minutes, but we're at 6,000 now
I don't know like if I should choose the high number or the low one
Leaked and I that was old
Okay, we're at 6000 still. It's going down pretty quick though. Go to the account on
Battle.net and find out. So on my Battle.net guys, I have WoW 1 and WoW 2. I guess I have
I have a WoW1 EU, I don't know if I've ever played that.
I also have this account which doesn't have a sub either.
I have this, this and this.
The WoW2 is what I play.
This is like my OG 2004 account.
This is, I don't know what this is, another account.
This is the one I play, 2000 WoW2.
But on this, I would assume it's WoW12, man.
I would assume it's WoW12.
I just got kicked again and put in a 40-minute queue again. Oh my gosh.
I
Um
of
the sentence and am trying to figure out what we should do here
that
that
check for being a search for the one that says you have beta on it created a random new one for me check your being a search for the one that is
on it. How would I do that? Like, so it made a new one for you? I don't even know.
Oh, log into the Bnet site. Okay, I'll try that.
And then go to...I'm on the website.
I get account settings, Warcraft, WoW forever.
I don't know, I don't know where,
I don't see where to check that.
We're at 4,000 in Qs, we're getting really close,
but I think I'm just gonna get DC'd again.
Clearly there's an issue.
So I don't want to get too excited.
We've already been to the top of this list twice now.
Okay, so I see a WoW, I'm on Battle.net, I see WoW12
and it says public test realm WoW12.
So it's probably WoW12.
WoW1, I don't even have a sub for.
It made me a random new account. I don't know
You got DC'd again back to the end of the queue yeah
Um
Let's see what's going on, guys.
Okay, 3,000 MQ, guys, 3,000 MQ.
Yeah, waiting more than once in a queue definitely sucks, but like, okay, dude, look how good
to the game looks man. Holy crap. DC again? DC ink? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's rough.
Agren tweeted again, let's see. Agren just tweeted saying investigating issues of people
being able to look to get into the realms. Hopefully we have it resolved soon.
Guys, that's us.
We're having issues here. That is literally us.
That is us.
DC back to 20 K. Yeah.
As much as I hate to say it, guys, we're at 3 K.
I guarantee when we hit the end of this, we get DC get put back to 40.
Like it's just what's gonna happen.
I think the bug is for people with two wild counts.
I literally think that's what it is.
Because everyone that didn't get the option got through.
No, I only got one.
Oh, maybe not.
Maybe it's different. Who knows?
I did it too, and I only have one account.
Okay, never mind, just another bug.
Oh my gosh!
Well, we're probably gonna watch Summit hit level 60 before we can log in.
I don't know, I don't know, it might not even matter.
Okay, we're top 2000 and you guys let's not get our hopes up.
We'll probably just get DC'd again.
We're on the, wow, forever grind here, guys.
Yeah, if I get DC'd again,
what I'm gonna do is actually close my whole client,
restart BattleNet, see if there's an update,
and then try to log in again.
Yeah, there's no logging into servers guys because there's no more servers anymore.
So that's what's happening.
If I get DC that might reinstall too.
Yeah, let me know if that works.
You're back to 40 minutes now as well.
I'm sorry guys, it sucks.
I'm top 800 in the queue right now.
But we will probably,
probably get DC'd again.
So Joker says he got DC'd again back to the end of the queue.
Savics got DC'd again back to the end of the queue.
So to drop his phone, so he's back to the end of the queue.
He's probably back to the start now.
I started at 13 finally got put in and then placed back to the end of the queue. Yeah
Yep
I mean it feels good to be here feels good to be here, but I think we're good
07s guys we're going back to the end we've already seen this before
for top 200 top 140 top 100 oh seven boys 40 30 20
4! HOLD!
It's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt.
It's gonna hurt.
It's gonna hurt.
It's gonna hurt, it's gonna hurt.
It's gonna hurt.
God, just DC me already, bro.
Oh, just give me back to the end.
I knew it would happen, it still hurt man.
Alright this time I'm going to close this and then open this again.
Maybe this needs to be updated, I don't know.
I'm going to send a quick update here maybe.
Why can't this update?
Why was running?
no it's not. I'm gonna like re-open this. I don't know for some reason I can't update
this while WoW is running. What? WoW is not even running. Guys we can, I mean we can get
back in the end of the line, but oh, I am running a while right now and task.
Okay, I just ended a task.
I'm going to update this.
I don't think that.
Oh, I got an update here.
Okay, guys, go to task manager and then close a while.
And there's an update.
I don't know if this will fix it, but there's an update now.
Okay.
There was a while in the background running, even though it wasn't in here.
Okay, now it looks updated.
Version 1.6.1.69893.
Oh, come on.
Fatal condition.
Guys, do not update, like I was telling you.
Do not update, I won't even let you play now.
If you do that, terrible idea.
Get back to task manager, what's going on?
Ending task and trying again.
Bro, I actually can't believe this.
I actually can believe this.
But I can't believe it.
I clicked play and nothing is happening.
I got the fatal condition too.
Scan and repair.
Goodness gracious.
Is it a scan and repair angle?
Where do we just sit in this now that I updated it?
My task manager has two WoWs open.
That's so weird.
Huh, I have two WoWs open right now.
I'm going to try to close one of them on task manager.
I don't know why.
The first one doesn't work, but the second one does.
I think I'm good now.
I somehow forced an update.
I own, and now I have two updates.
Now we sit in this again.
I don't know, I'm gonna kick it again.
Guys, we're sitting our third queue now, guys.
Sitting our third queue.
Nice.
Where's Summit?
Give me Summit back.
Here we go.
Crazy.
It's very, very crazy.
How good does that lighting look though, man?
Holy crap.
Like I knew it looked good, but like wow it looks good.
Like the trees?
Goodness.
Okay, so it says he also got kicked and back into a 47 minute queue guys.
rough that is rough from what I'm hearing from people online the game has
like no lag it's like super smooth once you're on but you can actually get on
because it's it's very the servers are dying or something but once you're in
Again there's like no lag.
It's extremely smooth once you're in, that's sick.
That's actually awesome.
Definitely gonna need a nameplate add on.
going to need the Uniframe add on, but you know.
Okay we are 45 minutes out now, nice.
I think the timer is fake though, it seems to go quicker than that.
Even though support page is down, yeah.
I made a classic UI add-on for the beta already.
Dude, that is so legendary.
That is actually so legendary.
classic unit frames, party frames, nameplates, mini-map, and caspars.
Oh my gosh, legendary.
Oh my gosh, dude, this is everything. This is everything we wanted, man. It's right here, right in front of our faces and none of us can even play.
I mean, it still feels pretty good, but it's all right. Grapp's on ding to that guy.
Grapp's on ding. Even the yellow question mark looks better. That's what I'm thinking, man. It's like in your face, man. It's like, oh my gosh.
and
you're back to a 23 KG 23 KQ after a second attempt. Yeah.
guys we're gonna get to attempt number four here sooner three or four I lost
count
tell soda how to get the update what I did is I come I went to control delete
or what is it shift shift control escape and task manager quit out of my
Wow and then it prompted an update that's what I did. I don't know like I don't
know if I'm trolling but
change your stream title to testing patience I'm trying to be as patient as
possible needs to be have some of to watch
I got the I got disconnected after a third time nice
Dude, it's actually insane too we would have been like literally like my first Q guys
We were like top. What 2000 like right away. We would have been in like first minute
Did I select wow one or wow 12 I tried wow 12 last time apparently doesn't matter which number you choose
If I get DC'd again, I might reinstall
I
Haven't I've been DC'd is it three times like yeah
You have to click scan and repair or you're gonna get kicked again.
Okay, we're down to 17,000. I mean, that's pretty good.
Definitely not bad.
I don't think I'm gonna get DC'd again, actually. I have faith in this time around. I actually do.
I don't think I'm gonna get DC'd since I updated my client. I think we're gonna get in
Yep, I got DC twice and then I updated now and now I think we're good
My version number did not change. Oh really my version number guys is
is 1.60.1.69893. Is that the same as you guys? Same? Okay, so maybe I am gonna get DC'd
again guys fake news open multiple windows no that's there's no way
Yeah, we're waiting, we're waiting.
Aggrin tweeted about the issue, yeah, it looks like they're looking into it.
Clearly there's an issue.
Okay guys, we're we I just got a screenshot from someone playing the game
Confirmed you have to choose ally or horde
Yep
Soda is ignoring me. There is a chance
He's actually not ignoring you and he just missed your message. There is a chance either that or he is in fact ignoring you
It's one of the other
You at T seat again
I
Position in Q 15,000 guys we were actually moving up this list. What did I start at like 22? Like this is this is good. I
Got kicked again, I'm sorry, bro. I I'm sorry. I got DC the third time. Yeah
I'm back in Q at 23,000. Yep. Yep same
guys we're all in the same spot here just check task manager and duplicate wow
forever process is gone that might have been the issue if you still have it
thanks for the content so I went to task manager and closed my second wow
process so there was two walls open I manually close one now I only have one
open that might have been the issue I don't know that actually might yo that
actually might be the issue it's opening two walls you guys have to click it
twice when you go into one the other one starts and it kicks off the first one
oh my gosh that actually might be the issue no that's just just go to your
task manager and make sure you only have one while open you have two I'm just
saying that might be something. I did not have two running. Okay, okay, okay. I definitely
We have two running, I just closed one.
Well guys, at least we're all in this together.
This is what makes for fun memories, right?
Like one day we're gonna look back at this
and be like, oh my gosh, what a fun time we were having
of not being able to play the game that we all wanna play.
What a fun time we were having watching Summit stream.
Well, none of us can actually get into the game.
You know, wow, what an incredible experience, you know?
This is it.
These are the memories we're making along the way.
This is wow forever.
It's incredible.
It's kind of like when I was at the airport the other day,
my flight was still late and I was just thinking, wow,
I'm gonna look back and just remember like what a great experience of having to sit in this airport for four five six seven eight hours
Yeah, this is this is a great memory that I'm gonna look back at one day
So it was a good time sitting in the airport all day long waiting for the the flight to take off
Same kind of thing
Yep
Okay, 13,000, wow, we're actually moving, we're actually moving, man.
Wait, that's actually really good.
We're at 23k down to 13k, guys.
Yo, Crats on Ding.
the beta was leaked on reddit oh no what's going on here
is
a liar horde for PVP. It's going to be Ally man.
to send the Alliance as much as, yeah, as much as I want to do like Horde, it's one of the
other, and I think I want to pry a ally, so it's kind of troll. I wish I could have one
of both, really. New post on X, they said to restart BattleNet
a disconnect. Yeah, everyone on Twitter is saying I got through the queue three times,
disconnected each time, sitting in a 25 minute queue to get TC to sit in a 45 minute queue.
I've gone through 9k, 12k, now 20k.
Yeah.
Yup.
Yup.
Scan and repair after the next DC?
Sure, yeah.
How long does scan and repair take?
Because if I DC again, maybe that's the play.
Scanner pair.
It takes three minutes.
I wonder if that's worth it.
If we DC again, that's gotta be worth it, right?
Because we only have one shot, one opportunity.
We're at 11k now.
I guarantee you this has nothing to do with updates, different accounts, or any weird
instances on Task Manager.
The servers are simply overloaded.
In one out of every X people manages to get in, there's nothing you can do except trying
over and over. Don't tell me that, man. I at least want to cope a little bit. Maybe there's
some talk of something I can do on my end. You know what I'm saying? Maybe there's something
we can do on our end to try to get in a little sooner.
You can get in by hitting escape on the prompt. Dude, there's no way hitting escape is going
to work absolutely not I've done scan repair I'll let you know if it works I'm
on my third attempt all right I'm on my fourth attempt I haven't really done
much except sit here and watch summit so maybe some it will give us the tech
back here.
I got DC'd again as well, rough.
Scan and repair works.
Scan and Repair does not work. Okay, nice.
I got an update after clicking Scan and Repair.
The beta is a month long and you can only hit level 20 true, well 20 then 30.
a new tweet from Warcraft right now. Thank you to everyone waiting to get into Wild Forever
Beta or working through some final issues and we expect the doors to be open soon. Thank
you for your patience. Nice. Alright, so we're here. You're gonna get booted again, guaranteed.
I actually think I'm gonna get in this time. I actually have a really good feeling about
Try number four like four is a lucky number, too. I'm actually feeling really good
Savick said we wait in a 40 minute queue and got kicked off again instantly. Yeah, this is this is something guys
Yeah, dude, locking number four is gonna be, it's gonna work.
It is definitely gonna work.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yo, for everyone who's in, what are your first impressions a while forever?
If you're in, is this the greatest thing we've ever seen in our lives?
Is it everything you've ever wanted?
Classic while, but better?
It's smooth, it's sick, it's amazing.
Amazing.
Smooth, chill, beautiful.
It's too easy.
Okay.
Durotar looks good. It's bright.
That's what you get for playing Horde.
Okay.
Um...
You went on a rogue?
Oh, uh, yeah, I'm just testing some stuff.
You're about to sell junk items. Okay, nice.
Cool. Let's sell that cloak and then, uh, move this skull over there.
Alright, let's just go this way and see what's over here.
We'll turn this quest in real quick, yeah.
I'll grab the legs here, I think.
I'm just gonna check these other items real quick.
Yeah, it's legs, definitely legs.
Yep, complete quest.
Equip those legs, get the next quest for those legs on.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, let's go this way.
I'm gonna turn this quest in over here real quick,
and then I'll probably fender up
and then continue the next quest.
Okay, I just went in the wrong building on accident.
Okay, here we go, here we go.
This is the quest turn and I got kind of turned around.
Cool.
We'll just complete that then.
And then I'm gonna bury the remains over here.
Built in quest, he's pretty nice.
Okay, nice.
Marla's grave, cool.
I like that there's like old quests
that we know and love, right?
And then mixed in with some new ones too.
Cool, let's actually not go this way.
Let's go the other way to turn the quest in.
Okay, we're going the wrong way here.
This is fine.
Okay, road trainer, this is very nice.
Nothing to train here.
First set. Oh, we do a backstab. Nice. Very good. Very good. Let's do backstab and pick pocket. We could even vendor if we want
Okay, hit my forehead on the ceiling. We're good. We're gonna skip vendering for now, too
We can go turn the quest into a right
But we are not gonna do that right this second because I have to fix my action bars one step guys
There's a new 15 gigabyte update well, I don't want to DC or anything guys, so let me keep playing here. All right, relax
Um, I'm gonna jump around here for a second to test the lag. Yeah, everything's feeling pretty smooth
stealth looks about the same as it used to
um
Okay, definitely getting ready to turn my next question, but I definitely want to fix these action bars as well
Cool. Mining for dummies, what's that? Oh wow.
Oh, interesting. Increases your mining skill by 2. Cannot raise mining above 15, you will
learn mining. Oh, what the heck? Really early like Prof Quest or something.
You will learn herb if not already trained.
Wow.
So you can get props like Insta now.
So Insta mining.
Reach level five.
Guys, we just don't know.
There it is.
There it is.
Nice.
Huge.
OK.
We banned him over on YouTube, guys.
You got disconnected three times. Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no. Guys, Savik's just got kicked again third time.
Okay, just walking the settings here.
are you actually in this time guys got a scan and repair did the scan and repair
work for you guys 4600 guys oh my gosh we got some we got some hope
no no yes no yes no no yes no I might take the two or three minutes to scan
repair just so at least I have some copium going into it but in the meantime
let's keep playing okay let's go over here and collect some starlet armbands
I'm just gonna walk around and these shadows look very nice we need 12 of
these things a lot of people out here but no lag at all okay let's go for the
scarlet convert hopefully no one steals my tag here nice nice throwing weapon
good good good this is what classic plus withdrawals look like okay we're
attacking a damage oh nice we got an armband probably still the same
drop rate is before but we'll learn more in a sec. Can you show us what slash silly looks
like? Give me a second I'm looting. I actually don't want to stop moving because I want to
make sure to get my tags here. Nice I got the tag from the priest. Good good good good
good. Sick. Okay big damage here. I'll just throw the eviscerate out guaranteed kill.
We got some other fracers. I'll just keep those in the bags for later. There's a lot
of people out here right now guys so we a lot of people so we're gonna need to chill out.
Okay, I'm on YouTube. Here we go. Okay, 3,600 guys, 3,600, 3,600. Let's keep larping. Okay.
I got in. Yo, for the people getting in, did you do any secret tech here? I'm asking for a friend
because I'm already playing and it's great, but I'm asking for Savik's who's not in.
No, I did nothing. No tech at all.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, okay, okay, this is good
Man these shadows though. Oh my gosh, you can't wait to play. Yeah, same
26 on the 26 on the 26 on the guys we're right there right there
Savick says I'm on the closed wow and task manager and scan and repair copium now
I'm about to be on that soon. How does it feel?
Oh my gosh, you goodness gracious.
I got in, you got in.
Wait, people are getting in now.
All right guys, top 1600, come on.
We'll stop pretending to be playing
and we'll actually be playing here in a second.
Hold, hold.
Everybody hold.
Hold on.
998 guys this is big this is massive I believe I believe I believe I believe I
I believe. Come on.
784.
681. If you guys can't read, we're on position in Q681.
Guys, if we get in here, we're gonna have to celebrate big time.
I've been in a Q all day.
We're about to log in right now unless we get kicked out and put back to the end
No, you're good luck you might need to stay 359
Guys we got some lunch right as we're logging in here too. Oh my gosh, I'm salivating
guys we're going to have to celebrate big time if we get in here oh my gosh please blizzard
top 70 top 50 30 20 16 don't disconnect me don't okay okay which one do I choose oh my
Oh my gosh, what do I choose?
I think it's while 12.
I really think it's while 12.
I really think it's while 12,
but you guys are all saying one.
Go with my gut.
I did 12 again.
Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
hold yes yes guys I told you I told you I was feeling good oh my gosh okay
Everybody relax everybody relax. Oh
My gosh, we're in
Someone to ensure you forever okay guys
Come on.
Someone took Zaru TV.
Guys, come on guys.
Zaru Prime.
You guys made me do it.
I wasn't even going to go Zaru Prime.
I was going to go, I wasn't going to, I wasn't going to sell out for Prime subs, but you guys
made me.
Look at that.
Unbelievable.
I was literally going to go, it's RU Forever or something, but whatever.
Lowercase P, whatever bro, it's the beta.
Well, on Azeroth, do your best to connect with other players and make friends, being
produce and group content. Alright, we can do that.
Guys, let's go.
Let's go, man.
Imagine we DC again. I feel like I would punch my monitor if we DC again. Don't make me punch
my monitor. Don't make me blizzard. Oh my gosh. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
No!
No, man, come on!
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
Please, please, please.
Well, Dirt, if I ever asked you for anything
in my entire life, besides the thunderfaring one run,
Besides that Swift Zoolien Tiger that dropped, besides the other Swift Zoolien Tiger too,
and besides the Invincible and the Mimsaid.
Besides all of those things, if I ever ask you for anything Blizzard, I'm asking you
right now Blizzard to let us into the game so that we can continue to play.
Come on.
This is bad.
This is real bad.
I mean, this is actually better than what I mean, this is a better screen to sit at than
the other screen.
Okay, I guess I'll have another bite of lunch.
Okay.
Okay, we're just going to keep waiting, we're going to keep waiting, we're going to keep
waiting.
Guys, I'm not DC'd, trust me, this is just a loading screen that's taking forever.
I'm not DC'd.
Nope, I'm not, I'm not DC'd, guys, it's, it's going, it's moving really slow.
Yeah, see, it just moved.
You see that?
Yes, yes, yes!
It actually did.
It actually moved.
Everybody hold.
Everybody hold.
Which primes get you in faster?
Really?
Was that how Summit got in?
Okay, I don't know.
I don't know.
We're just gonna keep waiting.
We're gonna keep waiting.
We are on a full loading bar right now.
Right now, we are full loading bar.
Yeah, maybe I keep eating lunch.
Maybe it's lunch. Maybe it's lunch.
Maybe it's lunch. Maybe if I eat another bite of this, it'll let me in.
Nope.
It's gonna let me in any second now, guys.
I need another bite.
Maybe it's every third bite I take.
It loads a little more.
Cause that's what I did last time.
You guys all just got TC'd.
Oh, come on.
Did you guys all DC right now?
Oh, no.
Yes, no. World server down.
Oh, my gosh.
How is the world server down if servers don't even exist?
I thought I got in. Oh my gosh. I thought I got in for a second. Come on, man. Lizard.
I mean there's no way I ever
cancel this right? There's no way we ever actually cancel that. I think we just
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yes. Yes. We're in boys. We're in. Oh my gosh. It's been a long
day. I'm sitting and waiting and watching Summit. I mean I like watching Summit but
I gotta pay off the prediction. Disarget in this attempt. Yes. We're in. This counts
just being in even if we get to see now it still counts
the known share the resources of the forest if you more on
that warm okay a barbaric menace rose up from the
bowels of the earth and invaded nomadic on
faded by their dwarven allies the gnomes fought a faggot battle to save
their beloved city for nomadic on nomadic on was
irrevocably lost the surviving gnomes fled to the
That's me. Oh my god. Oh my gosh. There's a lot of little gnomes out of here
And a lot of dwarves
The first name last name thing is crazy
That's me I'm gonna answer the challenge right now
Oh my gosh details has been blocked from the only available add-ons
Okay, okay.
Goodness gracious.
Do I have add-ons from the last beta maybe?
Oh I do.
I have add-ons from the last beta.
I'll turn them all off for now.
I'll probably download other ones later.
Maybe this is like the same as the last beta.
Okay, guys we're in.
Dude, the keybinds are complete troll.
Keybind's movement, I move with Q and E Blizzard.
Okay, nice.
Next up, edit mode, boom.
Okay, next up, UI scale.
I gotta hide these griffins too, goodness.
the griffins. Chat frame, fine. We'll just set up the UI real quick. I have a lot of
practice because I've done this 300 times at BlizzCon. Audio looks good, loop music,
air speech off, ping system, interface, holy crap. Replace player portraits. Okay. Raid
frames, power bars, okay whatever, action bars.
All my keybinds are here from the last beta, let's go!
Oh that's great!
The last beta?
I mean I don't know, like years ago.
graphics, FPS. Okay, so which one does fog? Grass foliage? Wait, let me check that my UI scale too.
I feel like my UI scale is normally a bit bigger, right? Whoa, whoa, not that big. Geez.
It seems like a little too big I feel like that's a little too big yeah, I'll just go
back to what we were I'll just keep it on this for now.
Okay, bro, there is so many pop-ups man.
Let me just lock in a dial real quick B.
Okay, boom boom good enough
Okay, um what else we need to change I
Banned him on YouTube got him Q time dropping fast enough W. That looks like they solved it
Okay, so the graphics I wanted to look at like the fog
So this is like shadows shadow quality and stuff
liquid liquid particle bloom yeah bloom density looks better on low I think
I'm gonna I need to turn some of this stuff down I think spell density
projected textures secondary lighting I like that environmental detail hmm yeah
I don't know which one's which but we'll leave it like this for now the bloom
The bloom lower helps. The bloom lower gets rid of like the bloom.
Oh look guys coordinates! They gave you in-game coordinates with no add-on. Is that kind of sick or what?
So we have to get eight pieces of Tothwolf meat.
And guys, I have questie turned off because I'm a true classic gamer.
So I have to know, like I actually have to read the quest.
It doesn't tell me where to go unless you turn on track quests.
Is that cool or what?
Oh yeah, nameplates.
Oh yeah, target.
Oh my gosh, bro.
Oh my gosh!
Okay, now all I need is a nameplate add-on and a unit frame add-on,
and a cast bar add-on,
and we're like pretty much playing Classic WoW.
We're like very close. Okay, we want some wolves, not drugs, guys. Come on.
What? I'm on the PvP realm, yeah.
Oh, wolves. Oh my god, I just got layered!
Nice! This layer is way better.
I'm gonna pop Eureka here on this Timberwolf and send it hard.
I got a miss but it's not a big deal because this next one's gonna go dumb, okay
I'm gonna go autolute on here so I can lock in and dial quicker
Yeah, this layers the layer to be on
What's the Eureka cooldown two minutes
You can't roll Horde on PvP?
I wonder if there's a lot of people that are going to be playing Undead Paladins.
Maybe that's why.
I just got totally stole my tag.
The world around you is going to refresh in five minutes.
I'm going to refresh now.
Boom, layered again.
Let's go.
This is the layer to be on, guys.
Trust right here.
This guy stole my tag again.
Absolute grief.
Oh, no.
Everyone came with me.
Guys, go back to your old layer, man.
layer. Guys this actually just feels so good. Oh yeah actually before we... okay so I want
to like I want to look at how the gnome cast and stuff because a lot of people were saying
they messed up like the animations which I think they're right. But I want to see if
I can even tell without doing like a side-by-side. Okay it does look a little different I must
admit but it's pretty close it does look a little different though I must say it
does look slightly different I swear it doesn't bother me though it's not like
it actually doesn't bother me bro this guy snagging my wolf bro bro bro there's
a wolf on me man how is your server not lacking the streamer realm from my
My perspective seems to be fine.
I got disconnected on the login cinematic.
That's brutal.
I am triggered.
What's going on, man?
You can notice it by your hair moving.
Yeah, it's like very slight.
Giveaway time.
We'll do more giveaways all day, but I want to lock in in file right now on some guys
gameplay. Guys I am hard stuck on this first quest this is brutally difficult.
Captain Mayo thanks for the prom.
Yeah, we might need to group up for this first wolf quest this one is hard man
Here's one, okay, okay. I have an idea. I have an idea. I'm gonna stand right here and
Right when this next wolf spawns. All right, got it. See that
Boom yo, I just hit level two guys. It's not a big deal, but it's kind of a big deal
Okay, we're locking a tile on this next wolf spawn.
Okay, there's too many people on that wolf spawn.
I'm gonna go on this wolf spawn next.
Is there shared group drops?
Let's try it.
Oh, I just got layered.
Here's a- oh my gosh, this is the layer, man.
Here we go.
No, no, no, no.
Yo, you stand your old layer, bro.
Oh my gosh, dude, this is just so so peak.
This is so peak.
This is so it.
They were three and eight.
The nameplates are nice, I don't like the nameplates personally but it's fine.
I wish I could go to classic ones but I'll just download it out on style, default, large
block focus.
Yeah like I just want classic style.
Okay here we go, here we go, this one's mine right here, boom.
26 crit, that's big.
I was in the world for 10 seconds.
How did it feel for those 10 seconds?
The UI is nice.
Really, I'm glad you like it.
Sabisha, thanks for the front.
Mining nodes in starting area?
Yeah, yeah, definitely need to get mining soon.
That's all me right nope
There's gonna be a respawn like right here watch this right there. Yep. Yep. Yep. I missed it
Here's a wolf
oh my gosh guys oh my gosh oh my god guys I am just nerding dude you making a
kill yeah that's a peek boo APM oh no is it that low
oh it's got some good layer yeah invite me over let's see it
Yo, this guy right here, are you getting me?
Yo, yo, this is the private layer, man.
W, this is the private layer.
That's what we're talking about, instantly completed the quest.
Onto the next one, wow.
Oh, no.
Wait when I yo yo yo yo yo yo I need to stay in your group. I think right when he left the group I unlayered
I went back to the old one okay, yeah, let's let's group up man
Yo frosty man, we go way back right we go way back
We go way back man. We're gonna need to stay on this in this group on this layer for a while
Okay, so some of these are new quests
Okay, so so we read these and go in there
My fat pack
Bags bags bags bags bags
You can't change where your bags are at in edit mode.
Okay.
Just open and drag it.
Nah, we'll need an add-on for that.
Yeah, need an atom for that
It's all good
You never could yeah, I guess so
Good day to you. Oh my gosh
For I am if you guys couldn't tell I am peak nerding out like this is amazing
It actually feels a little better than I remember actually I haven't done the gnome starting zone maybe that's why
There's no add-ons I don't have any right now
This argue the voice acting for the gnomes
Okay, we're going down the road to the west and we're going to kill some troggs as well
Am I going horde or ally, I'm setting ally PvP realm, yep
Trained mining, I didn't see where that mining quest was, I might need to get a higher level
What's the new ratio? It's called Eureka. Gives you a mana cost reduction and more damage.
It's literally the same so far. Yeah, that's why I like it.
When we've been discussing Classic Bloss over the last year or two,
one of my biggest things that I kept repeating over and over is
the quickest way to kill the game is by doing too much
And making it into like adding in five new classes and adding in flying and adding in like level 70 cap and add like and and adding in like
I don't know like infinitely scalable items and like that kind of stuff like that's how you kill it right like so
I actually really like
That you log in and it's very very familiar for a while
right that was honestly probably my biggest concern is that blizzard was
gonna make it into like season of discovery where there's so much new
stuff that you're like wait what am I playing you know what I mean
Lv I already works wait are you guys downloading add-ons I might need to try
one of these classic UI add-ons but I'm too scared to do it right now
I have add-ons from the last beta guys you're reading way too hard into this just to confirm
we never we when we were playtesting we were on Blizzard campus the when I said last beta
I'm talking about whatever last beta there was. I don't know
the classic
2019 one or
Whatever whenever I downloaded all these add-ons
TBC S arena must have been TBC beta. I'm talking about the last beta that we had the TBC one or something. I don't I don't know
Buff up. Yep. We're already buffed guys
So odd. Yeah, maybe the sawed one. I don't know
I'm allowed to tell you guys that now like we went to the campus and we checked out the game like
I don't know what you guys are trying to like look into here look at the puff durations
yeah 60 minute puffs are amazing man like actually amazing pro Eureka half mana cost spells let's go
Oh, I like that.
Oh, we need Frost Armor, yeah.
You got disconnected.
Uh...
Yo, D-level 3 guys, massive.
Yo, Trog, Dagger, that's a new weapon.
I'm pretty sure.
1.0 DPS, that's new, right?
No?
Oh.
Guys, I was testing you guys to see if you're actually actual classic Andes.
Some of you passed the test. Good job.
I chose Watt 12, not Watt 1. I don't know if it even matters.
and
I'm PDP room and
cross armors only 30 minutes to I guess so yeah
Hmm these snow boots are actually gonna go hard I think.
You can have six bags.
This is a re-ation bag here.
How's the latency?
I'm not lagging at all, or like, I would say almost at all.
It's fairly smooth
Like normally on server launches you just run in place for like ever
where is everyone I'm on a dead lair we got the tech here
did they remove the latency bar nonce right here communication protocol home TCP world
TCP frame rate 43 that's actually pretty low frames
Lake and see 59
Why are my frames so low
They capped
Hmm
Normally I play wow at like a thousand thousand frames or something or like 800 like it's it's so ridiculous after like cap it
My frames are low too like 30
Maybe it's good since I got a million people out here. I don't know
The sink is on I turned it off I think
Yeah, I don't know whatever
Did I enable quest help or not have it off bro this gameplay is goaded how nice is this
Can you see this shot? Yeah, what's up? How's it feeling? Amazing
Eureka
I just got dc'd again no way
60 FPS no I turned it off no more calm
You like the new racial? It's amazing. Yeah, very it's gonna be probably nerfed. It's very OP. So as I know, I love it
Log out to save settings never bro. I'm loggin. I'm saying logged in forever
My GPU is set to auto-detect
Which should be the right one make sure it's
Set to the right one
Wait, Intel X ELL?
Wait, low latency, allows the game to use various techniques to reduce input latency.
She's got TC'd again. No way, bro.
Use Nvidia Reflex. I'm like a little scared to like change any settings, not like, I don't like TC.
Reflex plus boost. You think that's chill?
I don't really care about latency, it's more about my framerate seems like a little low.
Might just be because there's a lot of people on the realm, I don't know.
Might just be that.
Is there a fog slider?
No slider for fog, but I think it's built into some of the other sliders.
I'm gonna have to mess around a bit more I
Went class I went classic not enhanced like don't get it twisted like it's all of it is gonna be enhanced to some degree, right?
It's not like you're playing Warcraft 3 and it's like
Yeah, I think all of it's kind of similar
what is that loot window it looks like the retail loot window um so yeah might
needed that on for that too who knows
do you keep your beta levels at launch no absolutely not
I caught and did my key binds and crash that's so true
No, you need two character names, like first name, last name.
Getting a solid 25 FPS.
Yeah.
I'm really curious what we're going to do to fix this FPS problem.
I would assume it's just because there's a billion people online and once, like, if I wanted I could just run out to Ironforge and see if there's lag there.
Two names is kind of dumb. I think they did it because there's only one realm now. Like, essentially it's just a mega realm.
Primus, the last name. I wonder what that's in reference to.
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Welcome in, guys.
Okay, I'll just keep questing here.
Shadow quality, ultra high.
I like shadows I think.
I just don't like like the, like, glow, the bloom or whatever.
I turned the bloom down to shadows high.
I think I like that.
I bet fog is on the particle density or particle slider. Yeah, we'll see.
Once I see a bunch of fog, I'll try to test it for you guys.
Can we change the portraits like the Uniframes? Nah, I'm gonna download an add-on for that for sure.
I actually will say I don't mind the action bars. As much as I'm like a classic Andy,
Like no changes kind of thing for that like the action bars actually look pretty good for me
It's just those current unit frames cast bar stuff like that
Okay, so we need some more boards I'm gonna hunt down some boards this way
How do you move the bug reporter you can literally just like move it drag it around wherever you want
put my mic over there.
Or the boar's up.
Yeah, you have, oh yeah, D.I.G. Level 4 hold.
You have to choose either Alliance or Horde for PvP realm,
for the PvP mega realm, I guess.
Unfortunately, you can't make both,
which is how it's always been,
But the reason it kind of sucks at this time is because there's only one realm, so RIP.
If you go to the CD manager, enable cooldown manager.
Interesting.
So there is a cooldown manager. Wow.
Apparently they were adding a swing timer too.
I'm gonna go mining.
Let's go mining here.
Okay, staff.
Okay, kill this guy.
I know how to do that.
I'm actually going to go turn this quest in so I can get my level 4 mage training before
trying to kill Krillin, Wipe Eared and the rest of the bores.
Any new quests yet?
Yeah, the one I just turned in was new.
Professions.
Oh, I also am going to need a mining pick.
Cool, so I just learned mining from that.
Okay, I think I'm going to need a mining pick still, technically.
I'm going to play ally.
Grab a material satchel.
Okay, mining pig material satchel, mage training, got it.
Okay, more boars.
Do we still have giveaways left?
Yeah, we're going to do more giveaways throughout the day.
Yep.
For people wondering why their names are blurry, what I did to get rid of that is bloom intensity
from high, it looks like that.
Yeah, bloom is the bad setting I think, I mean some people might like it, but I just
put it to low, it like clears up the game instantly, so much nicer, and the rest I pretty
much kept default I think for now, I'll tweak it all later, but bloom is the one that does
that. Astra, thanks LeBron. This is straight up go to gameplay, young fighter and joyman.
Pleased to meet you. Oh, this is a new quest. You get a six slot bag. If you go to the northwest
and recover Goswyn's mechanics log and kill the snow leopard prowler, that's definitely
new. Sick, okay. Let's turn in this over here. Invendor everything. We'll bring back the
mug too. Oh, Frostbolt hog. We have Frostbolt and Contra Water. Okay, Contra Water is like
Super massive here.
I'm sick.
Wait, can I use Eureka to cast water with less mana? Oh, no, it's only damaging abilities, never mind.
I'm not using any add-ons yet. How did I remove Eagles? Just click on them in edit mode. You
can remove them. Wait, it doesn't work on heals? It says damaging abilities. That's a good point.
does say damaging but maybe for priests it's different yeah okay so there's a
quest up here to the northwest I want to get a a satchel but I don't know where
to buy that actually maybe in here see if this is like a general vendor and I
also want a mining pick swing timers already under the game under advanced
Enable Swing Timer.
Oh!
Enable Damage Meter.
Oh!
That's insane!
I want to try that swing time earn a sec.
I need a mining pick and a bag.
Halley trainer, warrior trainer, rogue trainer, mage trainer, priest trainer, shaman lock.
Maybe it's from where I got the quest from mining my trainer mining pack and mining pick
Cool
Okay, so
The mining pack guys I can put in my reagent bag slot
Which doesn't count as an another bag slot. That's so cool
My mining pick I can also put in my reagent bag slot. So it doesn't take away from my normal inventory
That is rad
It's impossible to die one to ten. Uh, false. I've actually seen Peo die a few times below that.
Okay.
Let's go this way, do some more quest turn-ins, and then see if we can find that new quest turn-in.
Guys, I am so far, like, very thrilled.
Do mobs feel easier to kill? They feel the same.
Am I going to play no-money or lease?
I think so, yeah.
Cheesy.
Alright, I'm going to test this swing timer real quick.
No!
Why did you say that, man?
You just said that, man.
You just said that you're impressed!
Everyone got deseed?
wait I've got an idea
I'll be right back guys I'll be right back
you can notice it by your hair moving yes like very slight give away time we'll
do more giveaways all day but I want to lock it in tile right now on some
gameplay. Guys I am hard stuck on this first quest this is brutally difficult.
Captain Mayo thanks for the prom.
Yeah, we might need to group up for this first wolf quest. This one is hard man
Here's one okay, okay, I have an idea. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do I'm gonna stand right here and
Right when this next wolf spawns. All right, got it. See that
Boom yo, I just hit level two guys. It's not a big deal, but it's kind of a big deal
Okay, we're locking in tile on this next wolf spawn.
Okay, there's too many people on that wolf spawn.
I'm gonna go on this wolf spawn next.
Is there shared group drops?
Let's try it.
Oh, I just got layered.
Oh my gosh, this is the layer, man.
Here we go.
No, no, no.
Yo, he's staying in your old layer, bro.
Oh my gosh, dude, this is just so so peak. This is so peak. This is so it
Okay, we're three and eight
Nameplates are nice, I don't like the nameplates personally, but it's fun
I wish I could go to classic ones, but I'll just download it out on style default large block focus
Yeah, like I I just want classic style
Okay, here we go here we go some mine right here bomb 26 crit that's big I
I was in the world for 10 seconds.
How did it feel for those 10 seconds?
The UI is nice.
Really, I'm glad you like it.
Subesha, nice to the front.
Mining nodes in starting area?
Yeah, yeah, definitely need to get mining soon.
It's all me, right?
Nope.
There's going to be a respawn right here.
Watch this.
Right there.
Yep, yep, yep.
Oh, nice.
Yep.
Here's a wolf.
Oh my gosh guys oh my gosh oh my god guys I am just nerding dude you make
kind of killed yeah that's a peek-boo APM oh no is it that low
oh it's good sets you it's a good layer yeah invite me over let's see it
Yo, this guy right here, are you getting me?
Yo, yo, this is the private layer, man, W, this is the private layer.
That's what we're talking about, instantly completed the quest, onto the next one, wow.
Oh no.
Wait, when I, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
I need to stay in your group, I think.
Right when he left the group, I unlayered.
I went back to the old one.
Okay, yeah, let's group up, man.
Yo, Frosty, man, we go way back, right?
We go way back.
We go way back, man.
We're gonna need to stay in this group
on this layer for a while.
Okay, so some of these are new quests.
Okay, so we read these and go in there.
My backpack.
Bags, bags, bags, bags, bags.
You can't change where your bags are at in edit mode.
Yep.
Just open and drag it.
Nah, we'll need an add-on for that.
Yeah, need an atom for that It's all good
You never could?
Yeah, I guess so Good day to you
Oh my gosh
Bro, I am if you guys couldn't tell I am peek nerding out like this is amazing
It actually feels a little better than I remember actually haven't done the known starting zone maybe that's why
There's no add-ons I don't have any right now
It's already the voice acting for the gnomes.
Okay, we're going down the road to the west and we're going to kill some troggs as well.
Am I going horde or ally, I'm setting ally.
PvP realm, yeah.
mining. I didn't see where that mining quest was. I'm mining to get a higher level. What's
the new ratio? It's called Eureka. Gives you mana cost reduction and more damage. It's
literally the same so far. Yeah, that's why I like it. When we've been discussing Classic
Bloss over the last year or two, one of my biggest things that I kept repeating over
over and over is the quickest way to kill the game is by doing too much and making it into
like adding in five new classes and adding in flying and adding in like level 70 cap
and add like and adding in like I don't know like infinitely scalable items and like that
kind of stuff like that's how you kill it right like so I actually really like that
You log in and it's very, very familiar for a while.
Right?
That was honestly probably my biggest concern
is that Blizzard was gonna make it
into like season of discovery
where there's so much new stuff
that you're like, wait, what am I playing?
You know what I mean?
LTY already works.
Wait, are you guys downloading add-ons?
I might need to try one of these classic UI add-ons
but I'm too scared to do it right now.
I have add-ons from the last beta guys you're reading way too hard into this shit
Oh muted. Alright guys, I'm back. So yeah, we're almost back online. I hope you enjoy
that replay. Nice. Should be any second now. Hopefully the servers don't crash again, again,
again, again, again. We'll do some more giveaways. I actually think we're going to do even more
giveaways than we thought we were going to do. So we have more giveaways than, to wrap
you some codes in the chat as well coming in a little bit so that should be
fantastic uh guys once in the chat if you were baited two's in the chat if you
knew exactly what was happening when I was going afk we didn't want afk time so
of course okay ones I'm sorry kind of um I hope you accept this apology okay we're
back in maybe
Oh, sorry you primed baby.
Guys, is this the world of Warcraft we're gonna be playing and we're like 50, 60, 70,
80, 90 years old?
Oh, my keybinds got reset.
That's cool.
I don't really care.
redoing my keybinds yeah it's not a big deal for me yeah I'm good at that completely chill
just redoing some keybinds quickly oh my gosh wait we've made it someone made a
I don't know what guild I'm actually joining here, it can be a second year.
Dude, every single setting was reset, oh, great.
Oh, nice.
Beautiful.
Yeah, we'll make a kill at some point, some point soon I think, slash reload to save
settings.
Does that even work?
Dude.
Whisper.
line.
Change render scale to 98, does it actually look better that way?
Let's go back FFA if you can.
We need more boars.
Here's one.
Yeah, we're going to do beta key giveaways and then more of the heroic addition giveaways
to
up your contrast to guys all like min max all that kind of stuff later kind of just
want to get in there like in terms of video stuff honestly I think it looks pretty good
like I'm actually really thrilled about what looks like I'm not going to lie like I was
a little nervous that like maybe you would look too modern the UI really does throw me
off but we'll go from there forever hype seven guys we're not doing the giveaway right now why is
everyone typing forever hype seven those must be bots are those bots yo guys are those all bots
i never said we're doing the giveaway now they're all spamming yo you bots i never even said we're
doing the giveaway we're gonna do it later there's those must all be bots you guys are self-reporting
Unbelievable that's how cool is this apprentice mining pack how sick is that
Um, okay, let's go in this cave and see if we can kill the endude on the way outward.
He'll smore for us.
Man, I'm actually like just, oh my gosh, my FPS is 250 now.
Guys, they fixed the FPS. It's 250 now.
I don't know if they fixed that with the restart.
Nice.
you guys want me to show the swing timer I can show it so it looks like we're
home
home
edit mode you can do main hand often and range you can show the bar the time the scale
the opacity the width and the height so it's quite customizable too am I gonna go
arcane I don't know yet probably frost where are the other players we have a
streamer layer okay now I feel actually kind of bad I don't know I'm gonna layer
without much many people this guy is so
goaded with it guys there's no way are
there are there just actual bots in
here typing random things like this guy
like great gameplay wow holy crap look
how good the cave looks guys I am
nerding out bro like I'm actually nerding
out like it's classic wow but it's like oh my gosh there are heirlooms in the
game tight wait crap what's wrong with the retail UI I just I don't know I don't
like it maybe it's just because I'm old wait what's that thing you guys want me
to check
nice for us full thanks bro I can't see anything open your eyes
retail UI is better hey I'm glad you like it what's my ping 59 MS good
Good evening Zahar, good evening.
Mobs die fast, yeah, but normally they do.
Bro is creating like crazy, it might be a skill thing.
Go to settings and then go colors.
Okay, I'll check it in a sec.
Render 98 looks boss, what does render 98 do?
Oh guys, I am literally on cloud nine right now.
Like playing this, every like two minutes,
I keep remembering like we're playing classic plus
and I keep freaking out.
And then I forget, and then I get excited again.
It's crazy.
Defines the default background health bar color.
Wait, what?
Is this what you're talking about?
Focus glow color?
Render 98 looks so good, holy crap.
Wait, what are you guys talking about, render?
Oh, it makes it like sharper.
I don't know if I like that or not.
It actually looks kind of cool.
It looks like a hurricane video.
It looks like you're watching a hurricane video.
I don't know if I like it though.
Looks exactly the same.
No way.
different. Looks for sure like sharper. Click colors under system please trust. Um, yeah
15 level 5 colors under system.
What? Where?
Yeah, we'll do add-ons later.
Oh my gosh, dude. Oh my gosh, bro.
Why are you taking zero damage? That's just how it is when you're level five.
I um I double checked yesterday or the day before like how much damage you take on actual
classic oh my god just died sorry brother to see like how much damage you would take
oh wow we got this quest done already we got carried through nice
There's no classic UI toggle button, so we'll have to get an add-on if you care enough about it.
Not having a drink, what's up with that? Guys, I'm a level 5 killing level 3s.
I actually would be interested to see if someone wants to go onto actual classic era
And then make a complete comparison with like mana ticks damage damage taken. I'm like pretty confident
It's the exact same, but I would be like interested
For someone to go in and like look at it exactly
Right, I got it would be would be interesting to look at I think it feels it feels the same
Man reach in is high below level 10 always has been that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying
I think it's the exact same
show HD model for fun that never it's just a retail one
nope thanks baby oh I forgot my water out there W
5 second rule is not the same and that's something like I'm really pushing for I want 5 second rule
back of course. For that guy saying like you go to the interface to change the color, what's
that about? Five second rule isn't a thing. Yeah, I think that's kind of a big deal. Like
I think they definitely need that. Like if you look at my mana, it's just going up. Accessibility
colors. Am I trolling here? Oh, colors. Oh, you can change what color. Oh, heirloom.
Oh, you're saying heirlooms are in the game because heirlooms are here. That might be
carryover from retail I would be shocked if they put in heirlooms maybe I know
Is the XP increasing? No, not that I can see.
What's my latency? 60.
You can toggle quest objectives on map. Yeah, I haven't toggled off because I'm a full
natty gamer for now until I want to toggle him on.
You got my attention.
Very good.
Dun dun.
Okay, so Felix's box, chest and bucket of bolts.
Things are the same quest from over here.
Why do you have no mount?
Because I'm level five.
How do you feel?
I feel amazing.
It's like this is the moment we've all been waiting for, man.
Good choice going gnome.
I mean, I'm a gnome mage, man.
As much as I want to play other classes, I feel like I do have to do mage first.
you know. How did you fix the map bug? Mine was never bugged. Insane plays today. Let's
go. Thanks man. Can you show the HD models? They're the same ones as retail. How do you
feel about improved Blizzard nerf? I want to play around with it specifically before
making a judgement, but as a mage player I actually think it's maybe okay because there's
still going to be other ways to AOE grind and it won't be so oppressive in things like
world pvp and battlegrounds and it might complicate your rotation a bit for AOE to need to use
flamethrite, conicle, and blizzard, but I don't know yet.
I want to actually play with it first.
It's a huge nerf though.
Nerfs can be good and nerfs can be bad, like I don't know.
Like I said, I want to play around with it, but it actually might be okay.
I'm a mage saying that, right?
So we'll see.
Please show the HD models, guys.
I mean, I can show you, they're literally the same ones, guys, as retail.
They're not like new or anything.
It's just literally like right here, character models, HD apply.
I just look way worse.
I mean, in my opinion, at least, it's just a retail gnome.
Gnomes are actually one of the worst.
I have to say, retail night elves don't look that bad.
Retail humans look pretty bad.
Gnomes are really bad, like it's really bad.
Yeah, like that's why it's like,
yeah, get this off my screen.
Yeah, like definitely, SD all the way.
But yeah, like I said,
like retail blood elves look kinda cool,
retail night elves that kinda cool.
Like there's some that don't bother me too bad,
but gnomes I actually can't even look at
for more than like a second.
It's like really bad.
Level 5 talents are, nah, they're not full 10 unless you have legacy talents.
Bro, you're clapping, keep going, dude.
Torrens are the worst, yeah, like some are really bad and some are like kind of okay.
I've got to say though guys this is like 99% of everything I wanted like this I'm just so happy right now
Like the UI is like the one thing. I'm just like brah, but like you know, it is what it is
Wait for there was nothing in that chest what the heck
Um, I thought there was another quest item here, but I guess not
I have my quest helper turned off so we gotta go full 90 bro.
Inspiring gameplay, keep it up, thanks bro.
Alright, yeah, let's do another giveaway.
I'm gonna do a new keyword, it's gonna be foreverhype7.
It's starting now.
Just type foreverhype7 in the chat, we'll pick a winner in a few minutes.
We're giving away the forever edition guys, which is the Skyborne Epic Pack Warcraft 3
access and the beta $80 value. Good luck have fun.
Yep, it's confirmed. I'm going to be living on this game like like
straight up just living on this game.
Felix bucket of bolts.
Where the heck is Felix's chest?
I've done this quest like 150 times.
How do I not know this?
be more north.
Okay, let's run up this one.
I thought for sure the quest was right here, but clearly not.
Someone just looted this comprehension, huh.
I think that might be leftover from like sod.
I don't know if that's even supposed to be in the game.
Weird.
Oh, it is right here. Okay. I was right. I was like I thought for sure it was this it was this camp it is
I just was missing it
Bro once I have my UI add-on installed
I'm gonna be
like in heaven like like that UI out on is the one thing that's like once that's
on it's it's GGs bro I think add-ons are working like I actually could try one
right now but I'm just like too afraid to disconnect I mean they'll try one
tomorrow I know a bunch of people have been working on them and sending them
over so it could be kind of lit alright so I've never done this quest before it's
a new quest in the game it says find current and Cosmos camp in the hills in
northwest snow prowler leopard slain so it's the hills to the northwest so like I would
assume like northwest is up here dude look how good the game looks oh my gosh bro
I am in heaven.
How much FPS do I have?
163 right now.
It says the hills to the northwest.
I would assume it's like a rider on here.
Everyone's typing forever hype seven. We're doing a giveaway
for the game very soon. It's our seventh giveaway of the day.
Hmm.
Oh
Can you run up this way oh
I think you can oh dude. There's a new quality of copper vein poor copper vein. What the heck
You guys see this? That's rad. It's like in the starting zone they didn't want actual
copper veins for bots or something so they had a new one called poor. Wait no, my trippin?
Is that always been there? No, that's gotta be new right? My trippin? Now I'm like, is
that always been there? No, they definitely weren't in the starting zone. Okay, here we
This is yeah, this is the sauce right here snow leopard prowler. This is a brand new quest
Yeah, that's new I feel like it's new how many frames am I getting I'm at 170 right now
Now I'm gonna like keep a
What what's the thing where you like miss remember the past the Mandala effect?
I feel like that's gonna keep happening over and over. I'm like wait a minute
Is this how this is supposed to be or not like?
I'm gonna keep like misremembering everything I think
All right cool while we're up here
Let's do that giveaway and just choose a winner real quick if you don't win. We'll do another giveaway
So it's not a big deal. Oh
My gosh guys look you can see the mountains in the distance there normally it would just be completely cut out. Oh, that's so cool
Okay
All right guys forever hype seven in the chat for the giveaway if
You win you're winning a warcraft forever collection value to 80 bucks
It's a skyboard epic pack warcraft 3 reforged forsaken kingdom and the access to the beta
We're gonna choose a winner in five four three two one you have to prove you're not a bot when you win
Good luck. Good luck
Followed three hours ago. Okay. Okay. Hey, oh, Jew. Are you there? Are you a human or are you a bot?
I'm gonna keep clustering in the meantime. We're waiting for him to reply. It's me. Okay, he replied. Alright, how many fingers am I holding up?
Because if you were a bot this would be too hard to
To see I think
He says four, okay, I think that
Passes the test. Okay. Um, what other question can I confirm that this guy's a real person? He's actually replying quick
I don't have a PM, he says.
Oh yeah, I didn't DM you yet.
I was verifying you're a human.
What race and class of a character am I playing right now?
They got that massive turn in and a new backpack. Let's go
No mage. Okay, this guy's very legit. Yo, congratulations man. Check your DMs in just a second. I'm gonna send them to you on twitch
That's the seventh giveaway of the day
I'm trying to find the keys one sec
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Here's the 7th one.
We have a couple more of those to give away, plus some other ones.
All right, I sent it to your DMs.
Good luck have fun. Enjoy, enjoy.
Guys, we're not doing another giveaway yet.
I'll let you guys know when okay, so no giveaways for a little bit guys. We'll do some more though
Okay, so you want to speak with mountaineer fallows, let's do it
Let's do it.
Our add-ons working.
Apparently they are, but I haven't tried any yet.
I swear the only add-on I'm going to use is like a UI add-on.
I feel like it's the only thing.
Now that Questy's built in, and now that, like you probably won't need Litrix Plus for
almost anything, I'll probably use one add-on, classic UI.
You have damage meters pre-installed.
What are their add-ons you even need?
Flipping this for when you're running 30 add-ons in one year. I mean it might it might start to add up, but like
We'll see we'll see like on retail
I think I use like seven add-ons total because you like they have all this on retail, right?
Karen knows Karen knows Karen knows nice
I tell me when they have built and cooled on a manager now
why is everyone spamming the same thing I don't know I think they're bots guys we're
literally not doing a giveaway right now. I keep saying that but people are spamming anyway.
Everyone spamming forever hype 8 is a pot? True. It's either that or people that are
like tuning in thinking there's a giveaway going on, one or the other. Wait, is this
actually just like so much more fun than uh, than when I played previously? I'm trying
figure out why though because it's not real like we're gonna go because you
could say well it's cuz like you're you're actually playing maybe it's
cuz I'm at my own setup like when I played at Blizzard HQ then we when we
played a blizzcon it's just so janky because I'm using another computer maybe
it's cuz it's my own computer it's my own setup that's where like everything
just feels like how it's supposed to it's like okay nice it looks very easy
though I mean yeah like so so classic was not supposed to be like this crazy
complicated game. It's supposed to be like chill and relax. That's like the whole point of this.
You know what I mean? Like the whole point of this is like, okay, retail went in a direction.
It's like really sweaty and really difficult and like crazy complex. Let's get back to like
simple gameplay in a much smaller world. Oh my gosh, guys, I just love it, man.
We're gonna be living in Azeroth again, guys. Level six. We're gonna be living in a small,
simple world with simplicity forever. I hope they don't screw this up, I really hope.
Is there a threat meter?
In the damage meter there probably is.
So sad for the UI though.
I agree.
My big thing is the UI, kind of annoying, but I'll just download an add-on so I can
get past it. I'm actually liking the UI. I think that's Blizzard's like master plan,
right? Like, oh, let's just use the modern UI to get people used to it. And it's what
we'll use going forward. And then like when people hop on retail for a new expansion,
it's gonna be familiar or whatever. So like maybe, I don't know, maybe people will like
it more than I think. But I definitely don't, which is fun. Micro dosing it exactly.
People are saying please turn off head bob
simulate head bombing I don't I don't definitely don't want that can you show
your ping? Yeah. 59.
Well, I make a guild. Yes. What's the deal breaker for you? Like the UI, but that's like
I said, it's okay, I'll get over it. Wait a minute, mortar team.
This is new, right?
mortar team target dummy no wait the target dummies always been here
Okay, I'm an idiot.
Really?
Okay.
Um, okay, wow.
Really?
Take this, you what?
Yeah, I heard that same thing.
I don't think it was voiceover before.
Who knows?
You don't know how to find minerals on, Bukhams.
Wait.
Oh yeah, there's a whole profession UI now.
So instead of professions being under your spellbook, you're just a professions button.
There's a copper vein over here.
I'm gonna have to kill this bear for it. I think I can do that.
that. Definitely a lot of new in-gy items, yeah. Say button again, button. My wife says
I say button weird, but like I I'm literally just saying be you TT on button
The tiding skills sheesh that's what we're talking about full send
Oh guys, we're gonna be playing well forever.
It's Chichis.
It's Chichis.
It's Chis.
They're not gonna have a classic UI toggle?
No, I wish, but it doesn't look like it.
I swear the biggest thing is the unit frames.
The rest doesn't, like the minimap doesn't bother me all too much and the action bars, I don't even care, but I swear it's the unit frames.
It's literally just this.
I mean, the rest is like kinda there too, but like the Uniframes are the big one.
What props am I gonna go? I don't know yet, man. I'll probably just go like engineering.
See, I don't know. Maybe I'll swap. I haven't even looked at like too closely. Oh crap, I'm gonna die.
Who's loading?
Yo, I got Tiger's Eye, it's actually massive.
Oh crap.
Uh, okay, I'm just gonna go this way for a while.
Nope, had to.
Is Backspace the same?
Yeah.
They actually added a new mining pack, so I guess not really yeah, but they're the actual bags. Yeah
World first Tigers I am IP
Yeah, thanks the prom
Type slash who they changed the layout. Oh wow
Oh
When you type slash who is an owl
Nice and then when you type slash who it prompts you to make a listing or to find a group. So that's really nice, too
That the new slash who actually farms
Okay, so I'm a hundred percent gonna need to get a more backspace
How long is the beta take a few weeks I think it's gonna be gone two weeks before launch I think or like
10 days before launch
During those 10 days, I think I'm going to play Warcraft 3.
The new, uh, uh, Comprehend Skrull is in the game, weird.
Fireball rank 2.
My.
a tall one sell that and that I definitely need more okay definitely more
bag space sell that too oh crap you know to sell that I'm a major I can make
water sort of fireball what's the scroll do I don't know it was inside
Maybe you can get drops and decipher them physician general supplies crap I'm out of
money guys. Okay. Bring the crate of candles to Father Gavin. Set your new
Hearthstone 2, good coms.
Eight Flintfire Shipments, is that new?
Charter okay
The player is not from your server rip wait, how do I see you then?
Weird
Is it everything you hoped for to be honest no in some ways
But it surpassed my expectations and others
I would say the graphics like the visuals like the landscape look way better than I thought they were going to
This is awesome
Like they just looks like it guys it just looks so good like look at iron forge like look at the mountain, bro
Like it just look like it's just so beautiful
The UI is my one big complaint, but like
Yeah, overall like it's it's different than I thought but better and better in most ways worse with the
The UI, but yeah, my FPS is low my FPS was low and then it fixed on the disconnect. I don't know mine's good now
It's the same thing you're coping there's no way it's cope that this looks way better
You have to restart your game for FPS. Yeah, I had to
Dude it looks so much better. There's no way
Fireball new rank on bars, good coms.
You slash sit, you moat near the campfire.
Wait, is it any campfire?
Just that one.
Must have been the other one.
Yeah, let's spin the other one.
Oh yeah, here we go.
Okay, let's go back up this way.
You need to see the water, I haven't seen the water yet.
Do you know level is arcane?
Probably not, we'll see though.
Mob scaling is cooked, I think it's exactly
how it should be from what I can tell.
I've played a lot of the game.
I'm also wrong about a lot of stuff,
so maybe I'm wrong, but it feels about the same.
Look at that view, that's what I'm saying, man.
The game looks like gorgeous, gorgeous.
Did Mage get any new spells?
They got Ice Lance.
And...
Frost Firebolt, Ice Lance and Frost Firebolt.
And Arcane Blast.
Iceland's Frostfirebolt Arcane Blast.
Three? I'm trying to think if there's a fourth one.
I think it's just those three.
Enhanced or Classic? This is Classic, which is really just like models and stuff.
Can you downrank? Yep. Skyborne Polly, I hope. I think so.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, we got this thing a scroll just like in season of discovery and I have
anything that says decipher scroll.
Let's see what it does.
Dude, wolf I swear.
Bro!
Alright guys, give me a sec.
We got interrupted.
Another wolf.
Not crap.
Guard!
Nice.
Oh, we got another scroll.
We got two scrolls now.
I walked in and dialed here.
two scrolls now, locked in and dialed here.
Okay, there's so many settings I gotta check out later.
But for now, back to the scroll.
Let's go. What is it? What is it?
I don't even know what this is.
Gold is a gold making thing
Increases your comprehension skill. Yeah, but what's it do?
Okay, nice now I can do it better, but what's it actually do?
Nice blizzard, thanks. Okay, it polly myself cool
Cool.
Nice, that's what Mage has got if you're curious.
Yep, no, not deep freeze, not arcane barrage, we can sheep ourselves.
Great.
Look at your buffs now.
Yep.
Okay, we'll try to keep deciphering those later.
Oh, I got another scroll.
Come on, what is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What is it?
Okay, Blizzard.
Ha, ha, ha.
Let me see what it actually is.
Very funny. Very funny. Okay, GM's out there. Yeah, very funny. Very funny.
Scroll of production.
So mages, maybe can't AOE grind anymore, but maybe we can like comprehend scrolls or something to make extra gold.
I mean, as long as I make more gold than any other classic, as a mage, I'm fine with that. You know what I mean?
As long as I can passively have infinite gold with either AoE grinding, scroll comprehension, like...
I don't want to actually just have to farm, like everyone else. Like, that's my big thing as a mage.
Part of my, like, desired class fantasy is that I don't have to worry about gold. You know what I mean?
Kind of how it's always been. You guys all on the same page?
I
Lee
This is a dwarf shaman
Oh, it's guys trying to fool me up or I'm trying to do a him up and he accepted
Yorika, let's go crazy here. Fire locked. Cast for us then. Stone skin, whatever.
Go crazy on the fireball. He probably has another shot coming up soon.
Woo! That was close, Ollie. Close! Dude, it's weird to see Shaman over on ally. What the heck?
Okay, where is the campfire quest?
I think it was right here, right?
Or what's it up here?
Warlock trainer, demon trainer, must have been this campfire here.
Slash sit near the campfire to gain the buff.
After one minute spent sitting near the campfire, you may also craft using trade skills as long
as you do not move.
Sick.
So basically, you'll get a buff by sitting at a campfire,
but you can also do things like crafting
to promote players slowing down and talking to each other.
Because since you're going to be crafting anyway,
you might as well get a free buff.
I actually think that's really cool.
Test it, please.
I mean, I'm a miner, so I can only smelt.
And I don't have a forge, so I don't think that would work.
,
like still pretty cool, hey how is it going
on sitting here for 15 seconds anyway so might as well,
Nice.
All right, it's going good. My friend is having trouble logging in rip
Servers were rough this a.m
Sitting there for like three hours. Okay guys, I'm getting word that
Blizzard might stop by the stream and
and drop off a bunch of beta key accesses to you guys some beta keys do you
guys want some beta keys in the chat that's what I'm hearing they're gonna
just drop them in the chat I think that's what that's what I'm told I don't
know we got a buff game the following camp benefits you small receive a small
amount of rest experience you can only see this effect every hour that's so
cool actually I was actually a little if he on camping like that's actually rad
I like that a lot camping 101 mining
Loadstone a Rex us. Oh a Rex a loadstone that allows you and others sitting nearby to get 12 increase attack power
Exclusive with blessing of might
Whoa cool
Wait it blows their drop keys off, I don't even know
I'm like looking at chat
No, there's not, guys, there's not, people are randomly typing keys in the chat.
There's gonna, they're gonna be in a minute, guys, don't get baited by random people typing stuff in the chat.
Like, I can say stuff, it doesn't mean it's actually true.
Like, I, I can say that like, you can sub for free with Twitch Prime, but that doesn't actually mean anything.
Well, like, that, that one actually is true, too.
That's not a point.
The point is, don't, don't trust the stuff you read on the internet.
guys it's gonna be from the official at warcraft channel over on twitch and
they're just gonna drop some keys in here in a minute that's what I know are
you baiting us no I'm not baiting anyone absolutely not
I'm trying to like keep an eye on the chat.
Just to see if Blizzard drops some keys.
See what's going on.
Guys, the game feels good.
I was a little worried if the game would not feel good, but it's feeling good.
I was a little worried the game might feel like retail, but it is not feeling that way.
Check here, debuff.
recently buffed at a camp tent.
Oh, someone says Mount Riding is 95 gold now.
That's actually really good.
That means the Mount itself is only five,
which means if you buy a store mount,
you're only getting five gold.
That's cool.
Okay, I don't think WarCrafts has been in the channel yet.
Wonder if I should mod the WarCraft channel, so it's easier to see.
Dude, look how good the cave looks, man. Oh my gosh.
No, no, no, this is all me. This is all me, bro.
Yeah, keep running. That's what I thought. Keep running!
Tailoring is huge. Yeah, that looks sick.
Oh, thanks, babe. I might have to go tailoring. What?
It's insane.
It's like, it's like really good. Really fun. Very good. I think Blizzard's supposed to drop some keys.
Yeah.
Guys, Shannon said it looked cool, she doesn't even play WoW.
That's how cool it is.
So what about these keys?
I mean, they should be here any minute.
So Blizzard told me, either that or you guys are getting baited by Blizzard.
Either that or I'm getting baited by Blizzard and you're getting baited by me.
Well, the Wendigo is just healed.
Wendigo Shamans, did they always do that?
Wait, was there always Wendigo Shamans in this cave?
of the
note that's gonna be new right
Crap.
Wait, did Blizzard drop the keys off? Crap, I'm gonna miss it.
I mean, don't be fooled by the high level of gameplay you're witnessing, okay?
It's going to be difficult for newcomers, definitely.
Guys you don't have to type exclamation point key, they're just going to come over and drop
the keys when they're ready you guys you don't have to okay you know what never
one wait a minute I can literally just pull the Warcraft twitch channel up
here and if they type, I'll see it by fed. Oh, gosh, I'm just so happy with everything.
It's just like, amazing.
Is Arz about to steal all the keys for himself?
I actually didn't know we were gonna get a bunch of keys
to give away, so I just, I actually bought it myself
and I'm giving you guys the giveaways,
so that's how it's working.
Crap, guys, we're getting surrounded here by the Windigo.
and
It's not a big deal. I'll be here all day guys. It's all good. Oh
It is warcraft in here
Guys warcraft literally just posted a code to give away it's here right there. That's it
That's a beta key guys there it is
Warcraft's did another one. Good luck guys. Good luck. They're dropping hot
Thank you. Thank you warcraft. Enjoy guys
Not crap. I'm getting owned here
How do you redeem it it's that it's it's somewhere it's on the website it's got to be oh
Crap the shaman's heel so that was okay. We're like completely oomed out here guys
Warcraft put two keys in the chat. I don't like how many totals going on here, but keep a
Keep on the lookout.
All right, a little wind to go. Let's move through.
Grab this. We're going to be level seven soon, dude. Holy crap, we're flying, man.
Yeah.
Third key just now.
Third key.
Good luck.
Have fun, guys.
Slash who is are you here where the highest are you at least that's good
Patchwork Bracers, Pyrite, whoa. Pyrite, wait a minute. Wait, what's this? Skrull of impute
lesser flames. Impute a staff with lesser flame? What's that do? Spell damage? Pyrite,
It's crafting reagent scroll a qual do not this again, man
Goodness
It's not big upgrade I'm a bracer man gotta send those patchwork
Guys the exclamation point user warcraft. I don't think does anything. I
Don't think any of that does anything guys
Yeah, keep guys people are kind of trolling
Automotives freaking out yeah
Okay, what video settings are you playing at?
I have mine put to the highest, but I turned Bloom down.
Is it Bloom?
Gloom?
Gloom or Bloom?
Yeah, Bloom.
I turned that down because that looked kind of bad.
But the rest I have on the highest, and it looks like amazing, amazing, bro.
Yo, Team Level 7 guys, we're up big.
We're up massive.
Warcraft is still dropping keys guys. Good luck have fun. There we go
Okay, let's keep doing that.
Keep doing that.
Keep doing that.
Sick.
X much white key.
Nice guys.
Nice.
You know what?
Have fun today guys.
Have fun.
There's someone over there that looks like we're definitely going to die.
Um, okay, someone's kind of getting onto here copper vein.
Let's grab it.
I think we get back out of this cave and just go crazy on the turn ins here
Gotta get cooking as well. Do you feel enemy damage is the same? Yeah, I double checked the damage at least like level one
And the damage is the exact same
I'd be curious if some
If someone wants to do more of a deep dive on the damage
I'm pretty sure in the damage is the exact same not like close but like the same
But I would I would be very curious for someone to like disprove that and really like like lock in and like
Like theory like what's it called like myth busted rather?
But I think it's the exact same oh
Warcraft is still spamming the keys guys there we go another one just came out nice
Go in lurk mode happy hunting. Thanks, bro
They just can't heal yet.
Guys the beta is not region locked, it's a global beta.
So Europe and N.A. are on the same one.
What did we get? What did we get? Blizzard, what did we get?
So, M.B.U.S. Staff has magic for 1 hour, increased the damage from my fire up by up to 4. Pro, that is so sick.
So sick.
Oh crap.
There's looting.
Oh crap.
Dude, I need to turn off that like low HP, red, low HP health.
Do not flash screen at low HP yet, turn that off.
Combine bags, yeah, I'll turn that on.
Dude, it's so weird you can't move your bags in edit mode.
How is that possible?
Oh, that aggro range is huge.
You can?
Wait, what?
How?
Edit mode, bags?
And you can move these bags, but like these like this
Totem bar encounter bar pet bar
Pet boss extra abilities
I don't mean you can move them.
I don't mean you can move them.
of control alerts turning it off. Need an add-on for it? Yeah. Okay. Chee-chees. Chee-chees.
Chee-chees. Yeah, thank you again Warcraft for dropping in some codes. That was awesome.
you when you got a code? Grats, I'll see you on the beta. Oh crap. Um, what's this? Rat
familiar someone's a faithful rat familiar for one hour its presence
increases your ends well they added a Mitch Jones item are you kidding me guys
Mitch has an item in the game your familiar increases your in by two bro
they literally added them in there's a rat that follows you around you get
intellect is that a mage thing yeah yeah yeah
wow that's crazy I wasn't expecting that the new graphics look whimsical to you
I okay I'm not gonna lie they look pretty pretty darn good okay
dude Eureka is amazing the mana cost alone is amazing
I really like Eureka dude
Okay, go about a chance.
Boom!
So I wonder what setting does the fog...
What do you guys think it is?
Shadow particle?
Maybe it's particle.
No, it's not particle.
Volumetric, where's that?
Compute effects.
Oh, it literally says it right here.
So this is Fog Lower.
Low res volume Fog, disabled low res volume Fog with no placements.
I feel like you can't turn it off at all.
It's kind of hard to tell at least right there.
Fog is perma.
Yeah.
seem to be different at all.
Apparently, if you type slash console volume fog zero,
it turns it off.
What's the clue on Eureka?
Two minutes.
It's still very strong.
It feels very, very strong.
literally half mana on three spells is just like cracked
isn't it spell damage too yeah 10% more damage but like half mana too it's just
like crazy good. Man, I wish I could move my bags. Someone said you can snapshot thoughts
to this, sick.
Crossing edit mode can move bags there, dude. There's no way.
There's no way I'm missing this.
There's no way I'm this blind. Like, no way.
Did I try modifier clicking like shift, shift, control, all, yeah.
damage meter? I have it off on purpose right now.
My bags are movable. No way.
How are you not lagging at all? I'm on a very, very, very ideal layer here.
The person that whispered me saying I moved my bags just messaged me saying,
Sorry, I had to troll you a little
How often do I let this happen to myself?
Like that that's it guys, I'm not believing anything you guys say ever again like come on come on guys. I'm not believing it ever again
Of course you can move your bags
And you would bagger with magic causing it to occasionally chill foes when hit. Oh, bro
That's sick scroll of imbue chill knife. Are you kidding me? Oh
That is so cool that reminds me of like a
oblivion
Go in for a little slow
Are you getting that collector physical addition by chance apparently it's sold out so
Unless we like really try to stream or benefit this thing. It's GGs
But, it is what it is.
40 quest log bro oh my gosh alright guys I'm legit just in heaven right now
Like imagine playing this and you can just go raid with your friends and you don't think it world buffs
You can just play the game and there's just so much more accessibility, but it's so classic while like
and
interface, quest, toasts, raid frames,
action bars, combat.
Dude, there's so many random settings.
Highlight your character's silhouette when blocked by objects in the game?
The heck is that?
It's all out of codes we have some we have some more you have a rat following you yeah
it's my pet rat gives me extra intellect it's kind of fire you know you can hide your last
name if you want. Oh, really? Oh, nice. That's kind of cool. Is this the new graphics? I
have the SD models, but new graphics, yeah. You actually can't turn off the new graphics,
Yeah
Whoa, look at this setting guys you can see your silhouette through
Have you guys seen this from apparently this is a retail thing. I've never seen that
So if you're like blocked wait, it's actually kind of cool I haven't seen that at all that that's pretty rad
Yeah, some of the stuff from retail actually haven't seen yet.
Still trying to figure out how to move these bags.
Animations feel bad now.
I think they feel okay.
Elder, uh, Large Crag Boar, okay.
No loot on that.
Any way to hide a helm and cloak without enabling transmog yes
I think you can do that.
I think you do it through the transmog option but it's still, you can still do it.
Gotta turn on FFA yeah it's on.
How to enable quest locations.
You can just enable quest locations in the settings.
I think if I want to show them, I can go, oh crap.
Quest objectives off, quest objectives on, quest difficulty color off on, quest levels
off on.
So if I want to know where to go, I just click this.
If I want to turn, it's like quest on, quest off.
Beyond?
Questy off.
Literally one click.
Dude, turn Bloom on?
I have it off.
I don't like Bloom.
I'm gonna spell Q into a thing.
I would assume.
Is it Zero add-ons?
Yeah, Zero add-ons.
Why is FPS so bad?
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, FPS definitely seems a little shroll.
Still the retail UI? Yeah, we'll need an add-on for that one.
Can you change the color of the cast bar? No.
No footprints on the snow?
There are, but they're very light.
You can definitely see them. Yeah, they seem very light.
Can you turn on ray tracing? I don't know like how big of a deal ray tracing is.
Unsupported for graphics related reasons.
I guess I can't turn it on, sorry guys.
Relog to fix FPS, just a character select.
Dude, I really don't want to disconnect.
That works, Relog fixes FPS, wait, actually.
Okay, let's go graphics card 5090, apply.
30 FPS now, 120.
Okay, looks the same here, let me re-log.
Do I have to log out or just like re-log to the character?
Just character, okay, or else this if guys if I can't get in we're gonna be real upset here
Server shut down in 15 minutes right when I log off the servers go down nice guys look at this
I'm keeping up the whole thing without me. It's just like this is what happens
I log out for one second and if cheese
So, my FPS is 150.
That's still a little on the low end.
Yeah, my FPS is 170.
Well there's a server shutdown in 15 minutes, so maybe then.
I wonder when the servers are going down if I should try to drag in the classic UI thing
into my add-ons folder as well.
If they're gonna be down anyway.
My rat ran away? Oh no, come back to me rat.
Oh I still actually get the buff.
Oh my gosh, maybe that's a hidden tech.
If you want the buff,
but you don't want the rat,
you just get the buff and the re-log.
To move the bags go to edit mode,
Then drag action bags up to then be able to separate the bags off the bars.
Don't even... I...
No idea, man.
Can't move on retail, so you can on this either. Yeah, it's okay.
Why do you have two frost bolts? One will be like a pop rank, one will be like a bottom rank.
Bag non-angle? I don't even think we're gonna need Bagonator. I don't even... dude, I don't...
I feel like we're gonna need like nothing. Yeah, we'll do more... we'll do more key giveaways
Does the spell cast bar still lag or no?
I don't think so.
Does hiding your surname hide it for others as well?
Nah, it's just a visual thing bro.
Make sure to log out before the shutdown to save your keybinds and stuff.
will do, will do.
Turn off stick to other things in the edit mode settings, nice bro, nice.
You know people are allowed to put gladiator as their first name, I actually think they
are but I think they should remove that that's kind of weird where's damage meter
I haven't turned off right now I don't want to like do too much damage you know
what I'm saying
is the beta solely hosted on NA only yeah I think so that's usually how beta is sorry
Europeans. Always has been. Yeah. Yeah. Combine backpacks. What's that on C? Eureka.
The Eureka tooltip is actually kind of troll. I might make a macro out of that or something.
Oh, dang. Those graphics are nice. Yeah. Yeah. It makes the game look just amazing.
of
jumping into water sounds like roblox okay I've never actually played roblox I
wouldn't know but I definitely want to see some water here soon I haven't seen
any yet
for someone who's completely a unaware of what wow forever is could you explain
it to us. Okay. Classic WoW is a version of World of Warcraft that millions of people
fell in love with. And over time, it started getting updates. And those updates were really
fun and cool. But they also, it also kind of destroyed the game that people fell in
love with. For example, at some point WoW introduced Flying, and WoW introduced Increase
level cap and wow introduced a much much much larger world so in like 2016 2017
Blizzard was like okay crap let's go back and just play some classic wow again
and people were thrilled people were very happy people are still happy it's
like okay let's play classic wow but at some point people were like okay classic
wow is great but there's no updates ever and now we're bored even though this is
really great we're just kind of bored because it's been the same game for so
many years in a row. Classic Forever is adding in content to classic WoW without doing the
things that ruin the game like flying mounts, like vertical progression making things crazy
strong, like increasing level caps or always going to be level 60 cap or always going to
be kind of like in Azeroth, smaller world, the rotations of the classes aren't ever
going to get crazy complex. It's not about like crazy, you know, mechanical prowess or
anything like that. It's about the world and enjoying it and chilling. So it's the things
that we know and love in World of Warcraft, classic WoW, but there is going to be things
like new raids, new content updates, new quests. So the world is going to expand horizontally
over time, but we're not just going to get like stronger and stronger, we're not going
to get flying, we're not going to just leave Azeroth to a whole new planet, stuff like that.
So that's what WoW Forever is.
Have you felt any difference yet? I mean, yeah, the game definitely does feel like a little
different than Classic WoW, but not as much as I was thinking. I think the main thing that's
throwing me off is the UI, but it's actually not throwing me off like as much as I thought.
I think if the UI was Classic WoW, I literally wouldn't know the difference. Like it's that,
it feels very similar. Actually, the Manatex and the UI. The Manatex and the UI are probably the
two biggest things that I noticed. Is there enough content-wise for three weeks?
Yeah, like so, like obviously you're kind of kidding, but the thing about World of Warcraft
is like, no matter what expansion you're playing, the game does die after a while, right?
Like once you've hit max level and you're in raid log status, you are in raid log status
and you just log in once a week to raid, but that's just the game.
Like that is any expansion ever including original classic.
Oh my gosh, look how beautiful that is.
The difference here is that normally you would just get to the end of the game and keep doing the same thing forever
whereas in this game we're going to get new raids every six months or whatever the content cadence is
so you'll be able to log back in and do that.
The other key differences in Classic WoW, if you want to level an alt and go on an alt leveling journey
You might be on that alt for like a month, two months, three months, whereas on retail if you want to level an alt, you'll have that alt within like a day or two at max level in like farming dungeons already, right?
So, yeah, like your main might take you like a month or more to hit max and like it's going to take you a while to get to raid log status.
Anyway to answer your question like yeah, there's there should be hopefully like many many many many months of like
Playing the game and grinding per character. So if you want a few characters, you could be playing for years, which is awesome
Are they getting rid of world box? Yes. Can you try this slash console?
volume
Fog
Zero
That doing anything?
Oh that does work.
So fog on, fog off.
Fog on, fog off.
Can you do like 0.5?
That's is...
No, it's either on or off.
On, off, on, off, dude, this is kind of cringe, but I actually kind of like it off because
it's just like uber clear.
You're going to see everything, I actually like fog.
I wish I could do like 0.5 or something.
He's gonna charge me in a second here, but he might not know he can do it.
You can charge me now nice so that I keep running and do that
Yeah, so the fog is just doing that
I don't know I wish I could put the fog to like 10% that would be ideal to me I
Actually like if it's just on or off like and weirdly actually like it off. I don't know why
Looks like it looks super clear. I might mess around a bit more.
How? I don't know. It's like the game looks just very clear. It's nice.
The retail UI looks bad. Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
Yeah, my FPS is a little lower. It's only 160 right now. I feel like normally my FPS is in like the
like no cap, like 800 range, 700 range. So I have to like cap it at 400.
So, 160, 150 is a little weird.
Okay, um, the server shutdown is in one minute and I want to log off to save my stuff.
Kill one more mob.
get to the end mmm I don't know if I can even make it I never saw my hearthstone either
I'm a noob
It's our turn off smart pivot what's that I don't know what that is what it was smart pivot
Has anyone tested a classic UI add-on are any of them really good
makes camera move back to where it was. I don't think that's that. I'm gonna log out, yeah.
Do I like the animations? They look close enough for me. Ah crap. There's a bear.
Do I do 98% render or haven't?
Alright, has anyone used any of these classic QI add-ons?
I might try one since we have some town time.
I don't know if there was one that was really good.
There's like a bunch of them.
People have been linking me.
Click Reconnect.
Oh, is it?
Oh my gosh, bro.
Complete mistake here.
What's going on?
I don't know why I thought the servers were down for a bit, I'm an idiot.
This one has cask bars, mini map, name plates, portrait style frames, and unit frames.
Player target focus pet party cask bars and mini map.
Dude, 100 giftings from Carl'sland over on Twitch.
Holy crap.
Thank you, brother.
Oh my gosh.
Welcome in, guys.
Enjoy not watching ads.
That's what we're talking about, man.
you. Jeez. This add-on works. Which one? This one? Or this one? The Q is down. Probably
a virus. I trust Chills. He's made some add-ons for me. I actually, a little Plato, I think
I know too. I think I know both of these guys. Our key is going out. We can do keys, I think.
One sec. Down on this real quick. I'm just going to put this in my folder real quick.
If it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't.
I can always just disable it.
Program files, World of Warcraft, Beta, Interface Add-ons.
Actually, I might download both of them and then just see if one doesn't work. I can try the other
Wait, what the heck?
Bro, both of the add-on developers called their add-on the same thing.
Nice.
I can only drag in one, whatever.
Alright, let's do another giveaway, guys.
Forever Hype 8 will be the eighth code we're getting away.
If you type Forever Hype 8, you'll be entered to join the giveaway.
We're going to be giving away, wow forever, collection edition, forever collection edition.
With the Skyborne Epic Pack, Warcraft 3 Reforged, and access to the Beta.
Wow Forever 8 to join.
For people over on YouTube, this is a Twitch only giveaway and it's not because I don't
love you guys on YouTube, it's because YouTube has no way to message someone if they win.
So say, John from YouTube wins, I don't know how to actually message John and try to add
them on discord forget about it so on twitch i can smash you so anyway youtube if you want to join
come over to twitch type in well what's the giveaway thing wow forever eight
wait is it forever wow or wow forever i forgot what it was what did i say guys
wow forever isn't it wow forever eight
and then you're entered
And whoever wins, I'll DM you the code and you can hop on and play the beta.
Anyway, sorry YouTubers, if YouTube had a way to work it as DM the winner, just as easy
as Twitch, I would do some on YouTube too, but it is what it is.
You said wow forever 8 the first time?
Yeah, wow forever eight, I think is the keyword.
Wait, how do I even see the keyword here?
Choose a winner.
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
Wait, whatever, I said the first time.
What did I say the first time?
Crap, I forgot what it was.
Crap, I'm gonna try to like reopen another tab
to see what it actually is.
So I'm not scamming you guys here.
It's, oh, it's forever hype eight.
It's forever hype eight.
Sorry, guys.
It's forever hype eight to join.
Forever hype eight.
Forever hype eight.
Gosh, I'm a noob.
forever hype eight forever hype eight forever hype eight
There's 2,200 eligible users.
We'll roll this thing in just a minute.
Forever Hype 8, if you guys want to join the giveaway for the beta access
for Warcraft 3's new campaign and for the new Skyborne Race.
Forever Hype 8s.
Guys, once again on YouTube, it's not that I don't love you guys, it's that on YouTube
I literally can't message winners.
I was looking into how to do a YouTube giveaway and it's actually very hard because you can't
get in touch with who won the giveaway.
So that's why we're doing it on Twitch because I can literally just message the person.
Whoever wins on Twitch, I just send them a DM.
Okay, we'll roll about 3,000 users, so just in a second here.
Okay, we'll roll it in 5, 4, 3, 2, good luck guys, 1, please not a bot, followed a year
ago, nice.
Yo, I wedge 5.
Are you in the chat?
Are you live?
Are you a human being?
Are you a bot?
Be honest.
Hi, is are you, I'm here.
Okay.
How many fingers am I holding up?
How many fingers am I holding up?
I'm human zero.
Okay, that's good enough for me.
Alright, congrats.
Check your DMs.
Yo!
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
okay we'll do more giveaways but big grassland winning that enjoying joy
okay here we go PvP no realms are currently available not this again not
this again I thought we were past this man
I thought we were past this
You can do that same thing on YouTube, I'm like pretty sure you can't
I'm gonna double check. I'm going over to YouTube to see if I could like
No slash whisper slash message like dude, there's no way you can message someone on YouTube like that
I wish you could
I'm gonna try one other thing on YouTube.
No.
You just can't do it.
You just can't do it on YouTube, man.
I looked into it a while, the other day, the other week.
The beta has 10 KQs guys yeah this is like legit breaking the internet man it's crazy.
Guys everyone said I was an absolute idiot moron that I thought classic plus could be
bigger than retail.
Now of course, it's like it's not even out yet, there's a lot of initial hype, it'll
die down, which is all true.
But like, still I'm just thinking like, I think there is potential man, this game has
so much potential, it is crazy.
Imagine guys, you have a friend who's like, yo I've never played WoW, what do you recommend
me to play?
And obviously it's a biased chat, like all you guys are classic enemies, but like honestly,
even retail players out there, if you're a retail guy and you have a friend who's never
played well and they want to start soon. Well what are you gonna tell them? I have no friends?
Okay never mind.
I just think there's so much potential, man.
My wife started on a retail bounce-off, she paid classic and went forever drop, said it
was more approachable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I asked for a refund since I can't plan Europe.
Guys, let's also keep in mind this is day number one of a beta.
Just throwing that out there.
No more of this 105 energy hog.
Is that pay to the 60 not just a 20 than the 30?
No I've been playing all day well lost few hours
but the servers went down.
We have drops enabled, yeah we should.
For people that are on the front of the queues, are the servers up or does it just say no
realms when you log in. No, just no realms. Okay, so the servers are probably just down.
For now, what I'm gonna do is just play my Bob then. At least we have something in the
background how is he online yeah Jimmy thanks to the five gifts your brother our
I know them so P. They're pretty good. Yeah.
How are you liking it so far? I'm loving it.
It I don't know why like I was trying to explain this.
I actually don't really understand.
When I played it in the past, it didn't feel this good.
And I don't know why exactly.
I think it might be because it's the first time I'm playing in my home setup.
Whereas every time I've played before, it was at
Random PC setup at Blizzard HQ or at like BlizzCon. I think it I think playing at my house is maybe why
My own PC like I have all my like my keyboard my mouse my monitors
Maybe that's why I don't know
Because I feel like classic it does feel like classic it absolutely does the only thing that doesn't is that darn UI
Wait, do you guys have an update on your Battle.net?
Like, no.
It feels even more than classic, I mean it should feel exactly like that, yeah.
No update, no update, no update.
If I get DC'd again, I'll probably close Bnet and see if there's an update or something.
Do add-ons work, they showed, yeah.
It says no realms available, okay.
Getting a guild up to Deisar, I don't know if we'll be able to get one up today.
Who knows.
How much is it to make a guild?
Is it 10 silver?
gold? Ten silver for a charter? Okay, I mean I would like to but... I'll see.
Tabard's expensive part I see.
Realms are up?
Okay.
How are you still level 3, bro?
What do you mean level 3?
Well six now
Update there's an update. I'll check I
See an update for wow class
But I don't see one for this other clothes might be not in reopen
I went Horde this time around sick.
Apparently only the PvP realm is down.
Oh really?
Can't you change to the old UI?
No, I need that on.
PvE's down too.
I'm not sure what to do with this one, but I'm not sure what to do with this one either.
Realms can't be up or down since WoW Forever is realmless.
Very true.
true. I got in but it's still down. Yeah, yeah. Should be back up soon, hopefully.
How are you playing?
I just have a VOD playing in the background guys while we're waiting.
Update for three gigabytes.
I'm not seeing any update on mine.
We'll just keep waiting.
These are Noam or Night Elf Rogue on WoW Forever.
I don't even know man.
I would say this though guys, like the whole point of WoW Forever is that the content is
supposed to be enjoyable and easy to play with some friends.
Like do not go Night Elf because it's going to give you 0.4% more DPS increase to Parse.
Who cares?
Go whatever one you think looks cooler, period the end.
It's WoW Forever man.
This is not retail.
not like trying to squeeze out like like literally just have some fun with it man you know
Okay, 4600 in queue guys, but I think when I hit zero it's just gonna probably kick me back out, who knows.
It says the gnome, I mean I pretty much always play a gnome mage on a classic or undead if I'm horde.
I like undead or gnome for my mages.
People are saying the realms are back up.
Okay, cool.
We're 4600, so we still have to wait a few minutes.
No orc?
I usually don't play Orc.
Retail animations, so they're not quite retail animations
but you're right that they're not classic animations either.
They're retail animations to make
look like classic animations as far as I can tell.
Um, the innovations feel okay to me
People are saying they're back in now nice. Okay, this just dropped to 3600
I'm literally one ahead of the queue and you nice there we go back in and like it's gone to nice
What mouse do I use I have the a lot your tech G pro super light
I don't know if the pro version is available to the public, but that's the one that I'm sending.
It's been very nice for us. It's been very, very nice for us.
Ever try an MMO mouse? I actually did. I tried the Razer Naga, and I just like...
When I game I just like grip the mouse hard, you know I'm saying now the race are not a guy
I just like kept hitting all the buttons on the side
So I don't want them any buttons in my mouse anyway, so I just didn't send it
I'm a frost enjoyer, but I don't like ice lands.
It's hard to design for us without ice lands.
Let's see what's going on here.
16 under position in queue, here we go.
Five second rule is not in the game, I think it should be.
My top two things that are not in the game that should be are one, classic UI option.
two, server tick, five second rule, right, for energy for mana.
Those are probably the top two biggest.
In a sense, the mana ticks are even more important than the UI because you can't just
download and add on to fix it.
With the UI, you can download and add on, but with the server ticks, they have to actually
fix it, so.
There is 5 second rule no.
Um, I'll have to double check.
There actually might be 5 second rule without server ticks.
That actually might be true.
There is already a classic UI add on on Curse 4G.
Yeah, I'm actually gonna try it when I log back in.
There is not 5 second rule either.
Okay, yeah, like I said, like whether or not there's a 5 second rule, like the ticks
are definitely not there so who cares about the wow server ticks it's like
it's like a big deal for pvp if you're a pveer it's not as big of a deal for the
most part unless you're like a rogue parser but for wow classic pvp it's a
pretty big deal forever classic ui is giving me error windows really
Okay
Pika said it's not a big deal and he's a PvP here
But I don't know how much PvP Pika so in classic while it's definitely a tell me a big deal for sure definitely
Okay, and we're back cool no more DCs we're good
good. Okay. So my FPS is still only like 180, 190. It's like 200 now. Okay, FPS actually
is a little better. Still like a little lower than what we'd be used to. 200 now. Okay. I
I want to try that classic UI add-on, forever classic UI.
Okay, so it just straight up doesn't work.
Oh, whoa, no, no, totally does not work.
And it's close, kinda.
Yeah, no, it's very buggy.
You know, it's getting, I mean, you know,
someone's working on it.
Yeah, very buggy. Wow, very buggy. Reload the UI. Okay, I'll try a reload.
I'm going to assume it's just not working, but yeah, very buggy. Very buggy.
But yeah, I'm sure it'll, I'm sure like with some time it'll work, right?
There might be other ones that actually do work too, so.
Scaling with UI is bugging it? Oh really?
Oh yeah, you actually might be right.
Wait, I have UI skill turned off, guys.
Yeah, I don't know.
Better Blizz Frames got updated for forever. You have your own layout in it too, but there's a classic option. Let's make it big. The author deserves it.
it better blizz frames oh that one is already updated that would just be the
frames which is like the biggest deal not that it's not not that it matters
anyway goat mommy X nice retail main file forever
Okay, this one probably will work.
The author of this has definitely logged in and dialed on a lot of stuff here.
I
Very quick.
Okay, good enough for now.
Oh, good enough for now.
Oh, good enough for now.
Fireball.
Yep, good enough for now.
Oh my gosh.
Yup.
We're back!
Oh, we're back!
UI scale, like, is probably a little on the small side.
Whoa, a little on the big side now.
Still a little on the big side, maybe?
I don't know what I normally play on.
That... that seems alright.
I'll have to, like, check my bot later or something, but...
And it works with that at mode too. Nice.
Mmm. Very good.
Guys, we're not doing a giveaway. Everyone's spamming in the chat. You guys are outing yourself as bots.
We're not even doing a giveaway right now. We'll do one later.
Add-on name is, uh, better Blitz Frames.
still need one for like nameplates and this and that blah blah blah but
this is like that that to me was like the biggest one was better blues frames
this add-ons actually insane they have like a lot of lot of different settings
in here but like yeah we'll figure it out later
Do I feel a difference in mana regen?
I mean yeah, so there's no server ticks which feels way different, but in terms of the actual
outcome I think it's the same.
It's not like I'm higher or lower mana than I normally would be, but the way in which it
What happens with the ticks is different.
How come your nameplates don't become larger when you target them?
Might be a setting I'm not sure.
Size.
display. Yeah, I don't know, it might be a setting. Why did I go Alliance? I just like
ally in classic a lot. I'm very excited to see what's changed and what's different. I
have way more experience in allies. We're just in an ally.
I mean, like another board too.
Do you see the peek a clip?
Yeah, I saw it from BlizzCon.
It's hilarious.
Is the giveaway Twitch only, dude?
Yeah, I can't message winners on YouTube, unfortunately.
Although we've already done all the giveaways.
Actually, there might be more later, but none right now.
Hey, thanks for the prime.
I don't have the nameplate so you get bigger when I'm targeting him, that's fine.
You know if human or racial shares cooled down with trinket, I don't know, it's actually
a pretty good question.
Did I turn off last names?
Yeah, I turned off last names.
All of these pop-ups, social, online offline friends, toast windows, much better.
and
Dude, online and offline friends.
Yeah, I have no idea.
My immersion, yo same, I'm trying to like turn up Bnet here.
This looks way better.
Yeah, with the UI, I love it too.
Is it in a Bnet thing, maybe?
On Bnet, I'm appearing offline already though, so I don't know.
Try to reload UI, yeah, I'll try that.
What add-on looks good?
Guys, better blizz frames.
Better blizz frames, oh, there's another little tick here.
I would assume there would be more settings coming up too
for the mini-map and the action bars and stuff like that too.
Don't forget, flying to ore could come, so actually I already am.
Dude, my brain is like too overwhelmed right now, I'm putting on quest objectives.
Why mining?
I don't know, I just picked it up to pick it up.
I might swap, who knows.
the rat buff you have? It's like a rat familiar from one of the mage scrolls. Gives me two
in. Is console volume fog zero legit? Yeah, I actually have it on. I turned the fog off.
I actually kind of like fog a little bit, but there was definitely a lot of fog, so I
turned mine off for now. It makes the game look like just super clear, so I don't know,
personal preference. Crap, there's a lot of people here, huh?
Definitely me. That's all me. I was clicking so fast
Bro
What rules that PPP is this the enhanced option I'm playing classic
Nice got it
Is this the game we've been waiting for yeah, yeah, this is definitely the game we've been waiting for I
Didn't know if it was gonna feel this good, but it feels this good. It's great
doesn't mean it's perfect doesn't mean it's perfect there's definitely things
I need some work but like it's it's way better than I thought like I like it's
just way better than I thought
Oh, this guy's in the cave, the mountaineer.
Call me please.
Sure.
What's up, Payo?
So, Peo!
Yo, yo, yo, how are you doing?
Very good, how are you doing Peo?
What's your level?
I'm level 20 on my warrior and then 6 on my damage.
Alright, alright.
Wait, so now I see that you have a pretty nice UI, my friend, and I was just going to...
Okay, yeah, now you want the UI hookup, huh?
I
Will then mind to see like can you just guide me real fast like two second while you're playing I will I will really
I appreciate that because I don't know the blizzard thing and it doesn't work for me and I will like to
Remove the the the UIs of retail. I will read what I will own you. Okay. Look look look if I was asking you
You would definitely 100% beg me for some subs
No, I will not even reply to you to be honest, and I will keep it just for me so everyone will ask me for raising a shot.
But you are not like me, you're not a piece of shit.
Yeah, lucky for you, I'm not you, so I'll explain it really quick.
Alright, open up my stream.
Alright, thank you bro.
Okay, so first of all, you go to Add-on's Better Blitz Frames, you have that one, right? Better Blitz Frames.
Yeah, cool. So now you get options add-ons better blizz frames load settings lots of
Bbf BFF
options add-ons
better blizz frames load settings
Okay, option add-on
Add-on
Mike, okay, and and and and what you said just click load settings
Here, I'll do it again.
Press escape and then go to options, add-ons, better blizz flames, load settings.
The only thing that you need to worry about is on all frames, click classic frames.
Classic frames.
Yeah.
Then after that I reload.
Bro, I'm going to die.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, I haven't died, yo, heal me some-
It's in there!
Dude!
A lot of fucking walls!
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on!
Did I reload though?
No way.
It still doesn't work though.
Unless there's it and I don't know what's this it.
Is that the classic one?
It is.
Wait, really?
That is the normal, the classic one.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, we're kind of,
trying to lock in and dial here.
Okay. Wait that. BFF. You skip someone says. Okay. I go in, I sorry, I'm sorry. It's,
I go in the team. Do I put classic Caspar, classic combo and classic Elton Manatex too?
Yes, yes.
And it's supposed to work.
Classic frames, CASPAR, CLASPAR, BORDER, like just type in CLASPAR and then do all the CLASPAR
stuff, yeah.
Okay, wait, look, I'm sending you a screenshot, is that working?
What do you mean, is it working?
But I don't think it is.
Yeah, bro, you have to, it's just a unit frame in the CASPAR, it doesn't do like the action
bars and stuff yet.
Yeah, it's working, what do you mean, is the CLASPAR uniframe?
Oh, yeah, okay. Hey, yo, thank you so much. Wait. Are you telling me that you did all this thing by yourself?
No, no, this is someone else's add-on. I just downloaded it
No, but you did okay. Okay. All right. Yo, thank you so much bro. Wait, so I
Appreciate your time and thank you very much for answering me and you're bro. Like I said yesterday
I you know, I wasn't when I was talking to you. I wasn't I was talking for real
I was not trying to choke for content. Well, you know my style
Well, I didn't know you would choke so easily man. That's that's on me. I'm sorry. Oh, yo
When I'm excited and I eat I and I want to talk I choked usually
My mother was the same rule
So yeah, I'm sorry, but I will never like try to like start your choking for a content or like, you know, it's super
I mean, so
Yo, I appreciate that dude and I would say well, are you for real no line of late lovely?
Okay.
Oh, we're the same level.
Alright, cool, man.
Oh, good.
Have fun and thank you so much for...
Can I join your guild?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah, you can join.
I already said, do you want to have a guild yet?
So we'll make one soon.
Okay, can I have you an officer?
What?
Can I have you an officer of the guild?
Oh, an officer?
Uh, no.
No.
Okay.
Alright.
Yo, thank you, Zarr.
I love you.
I love you, Zarr.
Uh, yeah.
See you man. Yeah, I love you. You know, you know, I
Pay oh, uh, good talking to you, man
All right, peace
Hi, see you
Pay oh says hi, babe. All right. All right. Let's go
Good gracious guys, um, pale ladies and gentlemen once again
There we go, um, what's happening here?
What's happening here?
What is happening here?
Fang jerky, that's not jerky.
I didn't say it back, wait, say what back?
Cool.
Alright, so we got the frames working, we got this and that, whatever man.
It's kind of working.
It is kind of working.
Ooh, I definitely want those.
Definitely want those.
Definitely want those.
Wait a minute.
Does my UI skip?
Oh my god.
Dude, these hyper spawns in here.
They're going crazy.
Really good if they had a classic UI.
I mean, we can get an add-on anyway.
Oh my gosh, guys.
I am getting owned.
My mind combat.
Oh great.
This is not good.
Oh gosh.
Who aggroed that?
Okay, nice.
Okay.
Okay, beautiful. Okay, we're eating again. W.
How did our move last time? It's just in the interface, bro.
Namla, thanks for the prom, dude.
Are you gonna wait till 30 to give your full like and dislike review?
Uh, I mean I'll probably just tell you guys things as I go.
Like right now I'm blown away.
Like I really am.
There's things I like and don't like but like I'm pretty blown away.
Come.
Rhapsody Mall mining skill.
Cooking from this guy in Carino's, Cogs.
I still have to find this mountaineer.
Where is this guy?
It's looks so hype to be fair. Can't wait.
I think overall people are pretty darn blown away by this man.
I think even the haters have been kind of like quiet today.
You know, like of course there's things to dislike and hate and whatever.
But I feel like even the haters are like, oh crap, I gotta play that.
Oh crap, that was looking a little too...
You know what I'm saying? What's my FPS? 98.
That PS seems a little on the low end still, so hopefully that gets optimized or something.
Yeah, I'm lovin' it, man. I'm lovin' it.
It's not gonna be as high as before. Yeah, fair enough.
This guy's super dead, unless I help him.
I'll help you, sir.
You're loving it because I can play the game?
I mean, yeah, I guess.
There's definitely going to be some server issues, you know?
I was sitting in a queue for like five hours today, but okay, not that long, but for a while.
But I kind of expected that, you know, just kind of how it goes.
Seems like a lot of fog.
I actually turned fog off, it's like a different effect.
Frost Howl, is that a rare spawn?
Sack of fish.
I want to kill this guy.
Frost Howl.
What the heck, you guys seeing this?
I think that's a really cool thing about this game is that it's not just a game where you
have to be able to get to the top of the map, but you have to be able to get to the top of
NPC type to kind of reflect that like the alliance have shaman to run this side of the world now. It's just so cool
Do you want the UI looks so good? Yeah, we got like the classic UI I
Think there will be still an add-on to get like the classic mini map and like all that kind of stuff, but
But we'll I'm sure tweak that later. Alright, let's see if we can kill this guy frostowl level 9
We lock in we dial it up. I love the sound for Eureka. It's like a clear casting crock sound. Oh
Oh crap that elder win to go aggro some dead by the way
Hopefully it doesn't aggro
Crap that heal if we aggro anything else we're kind of cooked here wait no drop at all
Oh, I don't have a quest for that shoot
How do you turn off fog there was like a command for it what was what was the command called guys
fog it was like slash console fog crap slash console what was it volume fog zero or one so I
I could do like fog off and then fog on.
Fog off, fog on.
In a cave?
It's like weird.
In a cave, like the fog actually makes the cave look better.
Interesting, I'll leave it on for right now.
Okay, I need to get over here.
Oh, I'm in the wrong spot, so I'm mining node the whole time.
I can't remember where this mountaineer Cornelius is, I mean, we'll figure it out.
Oh, crap.
Bro, the shamans are so over-powdered.
Dude, the baseline cast far is so good, oh my gosh.
Can I be near killed? Yeah, we'll definitely have a guild. We'll open it up to everyone.
It'll just be like a massive fun place to hang. In terms of raiding and stuff, we'll
figure that out. Um, yeah. I talked to Cosmos and he said he would like to help like lead
stuff. So realistically we'll have like a bunch of raids happening and stuff, but we'll
see. Yeah, the fog is on right now. I didn't notice
That's how you turn off the griffins.
What about ampy?
Yeah, I'll probably be raiding with like, I mean, I actually haven't talked to them,
but I'll probably be raiding with like ampy and Savix.
I actually haven't talked to them, so I'm signing myself up for their raid, but I would
assume, I raided with Savix and Sod, I would assume we'd have like a similar raid to the
Sod raid-ish, maybe kinda, with like ampy.
I don't know, we'll see.
Thoughts on no member cap for guilds?
I don't know.
Right now it's still a thousand, right?
Am I thinking of playing PvE though?
No, I think everyone's playing PvP, but I know.
Wow, this cave is packed.
Oh, nice, Kaspar.
Yeah, I got the OG one with an add-on.
Dude, everyone's getting smoked in this cave.
Oh my gosh.
Dude, imagine this on HC.
Holy crap.
Yo, Cornelius!
Are we in the cave for nodes?
I was looking for Cornelius.
It's been a while since I've leveled a gnome, man.
You can toggle last name?
Yeah it's just visually though.
Is leveling faster or nah?
of course mana. Minor evocation.
Whoa, is that what I think it is?
Oh, that's so cool.
Oh my gosh, bro. That's so cool.
While you're leveling, you get random scrolls,
and you get like a minor evo one.
Oh, that's awesome, man.
That is so cool.
Guys, it might just a complete noob. Where is this Cornelius?
So sod was minor Evo and sod?
I was thinking maybe he's on top of the mountain since I've been in that cave forever, but it literally says head into the cave
But I've been in this cave for like
Wow probably in here somewhere it's gotta be
It's the star part of the cave true
I
That's the one part of the cave I didn't go into I'm an idiot
So fog on fog off
Wow, I'm so dumb I cannot believe
So, let's go and fender everything.
command for fog is here. The console volume fog is here or one off and on. I'm using better
blitz frames but yeah it doesn't have like the mini map and like the action bars and
everything. Oh, I actually wonder if Better Bliss Plates is working too. Doesn't look
Like a retail mop, rath classic TBC.
Nah.
How are you?
Welcome.
See you soon.
Sick.
Sick, sick, sick.
How do you get add-ons?
You just have to drag them to your add-on folder in the beta.
I don't think it works with Curse Forge yet.
How do you turn off second name?
You just go into the options and turn off my secondary name.
Okay, so I think I have enough silphur to buy a bag, so I definitely want to do that.
Man, this is just so fun, guys.
This is just so sick.
Lovely.
Yeah, let's get some more bags here.
I think I just love the idea that it's like, when classic era came out, it's like at some point, you know, there's just going to be nothing else to do.
But with this, you just know that there's always going to be eventually more content added.
It's like such a cool thing to always have in the back of your mind, you know?
Obviously, this is just a beta, so we're, you know, who are game missiles?
Okay, we got Polymorph, we got missiles.
Okay, missiles, polymorph, and then we have top-rank frost bolts.
Great.
Hey, thanks for the sub, bro.
Frostmade headhunters.
cooking. Turn this question. Cool. How do you reduce fog instead of completely disabling
it? I don't know if you can. Definitely don't know if you can. Yeah, guys, if there's random
Some keys going on in chat, people are just trolling.
Oh apparently Curseforge is working, but you have to do a scan or something.
Very whimsical game, it's not that whimsical.
Man, it looks so good.
I swear it's like the shadows look so sick.
Let's go over here first.
Mop classic beta.
So it's showing as mop classic beta.
Can I rename that?
Nothing matters.
Better blizz frames is already as an update.
Ooh, actually, maybe it's, oh yeah, no, it probably thinks it's something else.
I'm actually not going to update that.
When you say they did it, I would say they did it, yes, even though there's things that
like still need to be done and things that I don't like, but yeah, I would say overall,
Blizzard gave us generally what we wanted, and that is no easy task because everyone
wants different stuff. I mean they kind of crushed it bro. Like I said, it seems like
the haters are pretty quiet today. Now that the game is out in beta, I haven't heard like
that many haters. It's like what are you gonna hate on? Like it's of course you're gonna hate
on the UI. The Manatex. But like it's it's kind of what we wanted right? Like it's it's kind of
sick so we'll see I only hate the UI yeah fair enough set up max settings yeah
my settings are maxed out bro but I probably will tweak these later on I
hate the new splashing water sounds I actually haven't seen those yet I've
heard the really row blocks like but I haven't seen any water yet how do I turn
Classic frames I'm using an add-on called better blizz frames
We've literally seen 10% of the game not even 10% what what have we seen?
probably
2% of the game
There's water up here, okay, let's check out how water sounds
Because waters one of the things they did like a massive visual update with
Let's take a look
I mean, the water looks absolutely insane.
Like that's the water.
Like are you kidding me?
It looks incredible.
Let's see, let's listen to how it sounds.
Sounds good.
Now let's jump into it and listen to how it jump.
I like how that sounds when we jump in.
Yeah, I agree that I don't know if I like the sound of the water
Yeah, I don't know if I like the sound of the water. I think I have to agree on that the sound seems
Sounds like a little delayed to
Yeah, I don't know if I like that
sound
water sound
Is that the classic sound it definitely feels a little different to me. Is it just the same thing but way louder?
No, it's definitely a little different, right?
That's an easy fix.
Yeah, like, to me it seems like a lot of the things that I don't like are pretty easy
fixes, you know, which is good.
Like, oh, just downloading that on for that, or like, oh, okay, I have to say, Compery and
Scroll for a Mage is really cool.
So like, I just got a Scroll of Spirit that I get to just get to buff myself with since
Since I got a scroll, I also, like, what, leveling?
I'm gonna get a scroll of a few lesser flame, just get 4 damage on fire spells.
Sick, you know?
Um, hopefully we get enough at Endgame to where we don't have to just, like, farm scrolls
before a raid.
But, or like, hopefully if you do have to farm them before a raid, it's not like this really
painstaking thing where it's like 1 in every 10,000 mobs gives you the one that you need.
Because that would suck but for leveling it's great
Are they tradable oh, yeah, you could probably just buy him huh didn't think about
Crestation thanks to the prom
Are the animations on the hd models the classic animations no bouncy running so they're not the classic ones
So the retail ones to made to make look like the clock. They made them look like the classic ones
But the HD models, in my opinion, still suck, so good thing we can turn them off.
I'll show you guys what they look like.
So right now, Nome, as you know it, right?
I love it.
It's great.
Perfect.
If you want, you can go HD.
This is the retail Nome.
Mmm.
Ah!
You know, it's rough.
The running though is just like classic in the sense though like they didn't make it
all bouncy which by the way they should bring that to retail.
I swear they should just bring that to retail man straight up.
Oh that was the guy that just killed me in the cave.
So yeah I don't like it but it's good we have the options turn it off.
Thank goodness for the toggle yes.
people would appreciate that I think I mean I think it would be very well liked
because I think a lot of people on retail that like the models still say
they're too bouncy you know I do I swear there's a lot in this game that
retail players would love the water the lighting potential fog stuff the models
Plastic UI toggle will happen before launch.
That would be insane.
I don't think so.
We're just going to use an add-on.
missiles.
One of the things that I really like about Classic WoW and like that I'm excited for
in this game is when you play retail right away you start getting like tons of spell
visual effects and it makes you feel like good in the sense of like holy crap I'm doing
some epic stuff here but what it also does is it just fills your screen with effects
over a while, like I really like that I'm a level 8 mage and as a level 8 mage, my spell
does this, one bolt, one bolt, one bolt. Like how cool is that? Like you're weak, you just
started the game, you're not gonna like blow up someone in one hit with like a massive
fireball coming from the sky, like I feel like a lot of modern games do this mistake
where like you start a new character and right away at level 1 you have like six abilities
They're just like nuke and it's like makes you feel like you just beat the game and it's like you you just started
You just started like you should be weak as heck. You know what I mean?
You're doing triple my damage and I'm a true it yeah majors majors calm
We're gone. Thanks for the prompt. You're on. I'm on pvp. I'm on the pvp room
I need to get a first aid
Nameplate view distance is 40 yards now. Yeah, you got 20 silver already nice
Nice.
ITM view sounds good, Cosmos.
They took the head out of the silver leaf?
No way, really?
It's not in retail so I doubt that's the case.
What's gonna be the mage moneymaker from now on?
I don't know, we'll see.
A we grinding will still work who knows.
I wonder if you can double dip that 3rd stack of Eureka, probably not.
Chances of them adding ranked pvp?
the interview that we heard today it seems pretty unlikely since when can a
spell be missed since forever huh no pun intended can you explain scrolls it's
kind of like sod you decide for a scroll there's something in there it's kind of
cool.
Yeah, effectively, it's like a PvE Mega Realm and a PvP Mega Realm.
So if you play on the PvP one, you can only play with other people from the PvP one.
Oh, legend.
We got some food buff.
Thank you, thank you.
The new UI has already grown on me.
What are your thoughts?
That's awesome.
That's really cool.
I think that's Blizzard's whole plan.
If people are more used to the modern UI, moving forward, it's going to be a lot of
a lot easier for them to manage just one like code base,
one UI for retail for this game.
Like it makes sense.
Having said that, like I have played a lot of retail.
This UI isn't new for me.
I've already played with it a lot.
And on retail, I usually find ways to turn it off as well.
You know, so I'm no stranger to it.
I just don't like it.
99% of people hate it.
Actually, like I thought that was the case,
That's actually not true. I did a poll yesterday of like do you like it or hate it or do you not care and about 40% of people liked it?
40% of people hated it and about 20% of people didn't care. I think those numbers are about accurate
Which was interesting to say the least
Yeah
Boom, ding level 9 baby.
Ding level 9.
I think people complaining about the UI complain about everything in life to be honest.
Maybe, I mean, I don't like the UI.
You might say I'm complaining about it.
I would, I generally think I'm the type of person who doesn't complain much about anything
ever, but you know, I want to give my feedback and give that to Blizzard and make sure that
they know that there's people that don't like it, so.
I think there's a place for fair criticism and a place for needless whining and complaining.
I think if it's something that needs to be heard and you say it in a positive and productive
way, like, I prefer the old user interface, I think things like that should probably be
said.
I don't think there's a problem with that.
I think it's different if you start spamming over and over and over on the forums, on Reddit,
on Twitter, on YouTube comments, and on Twitch chat saying,
new UIL unsubbed law.
New UIL unsubbed law.
Like that's, I mean, that's pathetic, right?
Like, yeah, maybe that kind of person is different.
But if you're just saying, yeah, I prefer the old one.
So yeah, that seems like a fair criticism, sure, whatever.
So there's a big difference here.
Yeah, there's whining and then just giving like feedback.
I still forgot to set my Hearthstone, Rib.
What do you like better about the Classic UI?
How it looks.
I like how it looks better.
Okay level 4 now, I feel this forever hype, dude it's insane.
If the content too easy compared to classic, the content difficulty feels the exact same
as playing classic so far.
I don't have any new abilities.
The scaling in as far as I can tell is exactly the same.
My mana reach ends the same.
I'm getting hit for the same.
My health is the same.
Everything feels the exact same.
Now ask me that same question when I have Ice Lance.
Ask me that same question when we're max level and we have a bunch of new gear or when I'm
little 40 with a bunch of new gear. We'll see how it scales. But right now everything
feels basically identical to how I remember playing. Enchanting as a wand you can make
off the red, okay.
The mount's at 40, yeah.
Do I like old school mana ticks better?
Yeah, that's like one of my two complaints.
My first complaint is that you are my second complaint is the mana ticks, but besides that,
like I pretty much have no complaints.
Yeah, doorblower.
Yeah, Thorblore, thanks for the prom, brother.
Can you make hot dogs in the game?
Not that I'm aware of, but might be worth checking it out.
Manitics are mainly important for PvP.
You can like drink with the server ticks when you're running.
For rogues, I would say they're mo- like rogue players probably care the most out of anyone.
Because for classic wow rogue, energy ticks are like kinda how you play, right?
You have, um, you're like aware of when you're not getting to the next energy tick and you're
gonna base your whole playstyle on PvP based on your energy ticks, so like rogue players
will probably care more than like a warrior player probably won't even notice I don't
think most most classes won't notice it's really like rogue or maybe like like mage mage players
will definitely notice if you ever drink with manatees mage evoke exactly drink walking
exactly like there's a lot of stuff but not gonna lie I think drink walking is that key
part of classic yeah like I guess it's just like semantics it's like how big of a deal
is this thing of course it's it's it's not like a massive deal right but it's also not like nothing
it's it's worth mentioning like if we could get in like ochi mana ticks and energy ticks like I
think that would be like a big win you know like but if they don't do it does it ruin the game no
it's not that big of a deal xp is accelerated um not from what I can tell but I would love to be
like proven wrong like if someone does like uh like goes on classic era and kills a mob at a
certain level or does a quest at a certain level but i think it feels about the same to me
first aid lets you get a healing pot that's insane i need to get first aid
How do you drink with mana ticks properly in a PvP situation?
Yeah, so essentially like you'll track when the server does a tick.
I think it's like every two and a half seconds and you can basically like run in between the tick
and then right when the ticks do what to happen you'll sit down drink and you'll get your mana back
and then you'll keep running and sit down drink mana back keep running over and over.
server takes our heart if there's no server true
snow leopard, uh, crap.
There we go.
Scroll of rat familiar.
Guys, we got the rat back.
Boom, baby.
Yo, red, thanks for the prompt.
Forever hold.
Server ticks are important for PvE speedrunners too.
Yeah, fair enough.
thoughts. Actually campsites are cooler than I thought. I was a little on the fence about campsites,
but I think they're pretty cool. You just like sit down, you get a small little buff,
but it gives you a reason to stop. I like it.
Hot take. UI should be left to the players. There's an entire free open ecosystem been
running for ages now for add-ons. So you're saying like they should just use the
retail UI and if you want to swap it you can get an add-on. I think that's like a
fair take. You could also have the opposite take and say just leave it to
the classic UI and if you want the retail one download an add-on. Right? But if
you're Blizzard it's probably much easier to go with the classic or sorry go
with the retail UI because for future updates it's just one code base for like
retail and for this game so it's probably infinitely easier to say okay
Let's just go with this one and then if you want just download it on but still I
Found it press K. Wait, what did you find Pixie my K key bind is already taken
Hey to hold
I'm warming up to the new UI. I'm glad I'm glad like if that is that if that's how most people feel like that's awesome, right?
I will say this, there's people back and forth in the chat.
Yeah, GGs, thank you very much.
There's people going back and forth in the chat about the UI.
And the reality, like I just thought of this, the reality is the same conversations would
be had with transmog, people going back and forth.
So with the UI being this, with people being this indecisive with it, the proper answer
probably is a toggle.
The proper answer probably is a toggle.
If an add-on can be spun up in a day, right,
by an add-on dev, the proper answer is probably a UI toggle,
and then you choose what you want.
That is probably, like, if it's something this split,
it's like, all right, then you do both, right?
The correct answer is always choice.
I actually disagree with you.
There's some things that you can't allow the player
choose. For example, if I just want to disprove you very quickly, flying, opt in or opt out,
that would suck. Because now you feel like if you opt out, you're way slower than everyone else,
right? So no, you can't just always have choice. There's some things where it's like, no, that's
not actually going to be in this game. Or Mythic Plus opt in, opt out, like no, no, you can't do that.
So I disagree. There's some things that can be left to a choice, like Transmog is a good option,
or like the UI maybe, or like SDHD character models, right?
But there's some things that should not be a choice.
It's like, this is how we're going to develop our game.
LMAO, your rank one at countering bad takes.
I mean, here's the thing, like I have just thought about this game
way more than most people.
I think about it all the time.
It's my job to play this game.
I think about it like in the shower just sitting there like I'm on my walk
I'm just like walking around thinking about it like I just think about this game when you think about something a lot
You've thought about all these things like hundreds of times
You just like you start thinking like oh, maybe that would be cool. Oh wait. No, maybe not right and
Over time you just start
Like people might have an idea that I had like a year ago
But then I thought about why it would be a bad idea because initially it sounds good
But then when you think about it more, it's like actually no
Choice paralysis is also a real thing, so more choices aren't always better, yeah.
In marketing it's called decision fatigue, and there's this concept of like if you give
your customer too many choices, they actually get overwhelmed and don't make any choice
at all and that's an interesting one. That's like a little different conversation but it
is interesting. Like so you look at a menu like In-N-Out and they have like just like
a burger, a cheeseburger and some fries. Like they're trying to keep things simple. Having
said that, there's other successful chains like Cheesecake Factory or something where
you could get like a lot of like a massive menu and they're still successful in a different
way. So it's not like it's the only way to do things. But it is interesting to think
about nonetheless. You ever been in the olive oil aisle there's like a thousand
different bottles? Yeah, wild.
Slash console, re-sample, always sharpened one.
Sharp on.
Don't think that needs to sit in there. Let's see what that looks like.
I can't tell if I even like that.
like it looks good but like also looks trash it's weird I think I like it off
actually yeah I think I like it off wait yeah I just like normal yeah I think
Looks like a normal.
Anyone else like 2-5,000 ping?
No, I've been actually real smooth.
The server sucked getting into, but ever since I've been online, it's actually been pretty
smooth.
What do I think of the mage changes?
Like, overall, I don't, like, mages didn't get many changes.
They added three spells, Ice Lance, Arcane Blast, and Frostfire Bolt, and you know, the
rotation is going to be pretty basic if nothing changes.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I don't want to judge it too much based on just reading all the stuff and without actually
playing it seems pretty pretty basic you know what I mean seems pretty basic so
let's see what happens the whole choice is for everyone is what ruined retail
wow and we don't want to happen on classic to that that's actually like kind
of true in a sense like so like mythic plus or like RB cheese or flying or like
all of these things like pet battles or like you it's really really really easy to say oh let's
just add more content because some players might like that content and if you don't like it just
don't engage with it right if you don't like it just don't engage with it it's like a very common
argument and like to some degree it's actually true it's like okay yeah just don't pet battle if you
don't like it the problem is like back in classic while you didn't have all these systems like like
like, uh, like hogging up the player base, so to speak, right?
You just have all the players either in a raid, in a dungeon leveling,
or like out in the world PVPing, like there's just a couple things
and people in engage with them.
And like all of these major systems take critical mass much easier.
But if you have too many options for people and everyone just kind of like goes
to their own corner of the world, I'm going to pet battle.
I'm going to achieve in farm.
I'm gonna, you know, do this and that and that and that and like Mythic Plus and RBG's and Solo Shuffle and Blitz and Arena.
It's like, it starts to quickly make sense why just adding more and more and more isn't always the answer.
Even though it feels weird, like on a surface level to like think that way,
because like on a surface level it's like, well, yeah, it's kind of true. Like just, you don't like it then don't do it.
But I think we, I think you're right to some degree. Like that's what we saw in retail.
It's like more and more and more optional stuff, but eventually over 20 plus years, it became like you log in and it's just completely overwhelming, right?
Content is nerfed because RU hasn't died yet.
No, okay, first of all, I would not have died on classic era either, just to be clear.
Okay, and
Like no the nerfs it doesn't doesn't seem like that's the case
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what's this?
Fill the crate with any bundle from the following list to cure light hide or 20 bolt of linen cloth
Way laid crate apprentice fabrics interesting
So you fill the bundle with something and then like
I guess you would get something in return or whatever.
I definitely want to pick that up.
Got another Tiger sign as well.
It's kind of like Sod.
Yeah, so they definitely learned some stuff from Sod that apparently they like to want
to bring into this game.
Earlier today on the dev panel, we learned that they are going to keep in reals from
Season of Discovery.
If you guys didn't know what the Rial system did,
what it basically does is when you do a dungeon
or an old raid, you get a currency called a Rial.
I'm a little fuzzy on this because it's been a while,
but the Rials are essentially a currency
that you can use to buy some gear or some items,
what's it called, trade goods,
so you could get leather or ore or something like that.
And so you like by doing old content you could then make gold
Or get some cosmetic like or you could get some like gear or something like that
So especially like if you're coming back to the game like way later
It was really nice and sod to her like oh
Let me just like do some of these dungeons and like get some gear from it or make some gold from it
I'm always a really really well received system and it sounds like that system is gonna be
In this game as well
Please make an add-on list for launch.
I think my plan- oh crap.
Am I dead here?
Okay, I have to use a pot.
I think my plan is- oh crap, am I in combat from that?
one second. It's used as little add-ons as possible, right? Like I'll probably really
just use like my UI add-ons. I don't even need Questy anymore, because it's built in.
You know, I'm not going to use Rested XP of course, at least for my first couple characters.
You know, damage meter is built in, weak or as won't be necessary. I might not use like
anything except like a UI add-on really.
We'll see though.
There might be some stuff that seems better as time goes on.
Are you immediately gonna swap to hardcore when it drops?
It depends on the timeline,
but essentially what's probably happening
is when hardcore Classic Plus comes out,
only things three will start.
I'm sure so has talked about this.
I'm not the one in charge here,
but realistically that's what's happening.
Only things three starts when hardcore drops.
Because the whole world's going to want to play.
And we'll make the only things gild and kind of send it.
So yeah.
Hopefully, though, and maybe we should chat with Blizzard
more about this, but we don't want it to be on a new patch
where there's new content coming out.
It should be in an in-between patch.
For example, we don't want it to be when a new raid comes out because all of us are gonna be playing only things like that would
You know like that would suck like you they want it
They should do it during downtime when everyone's bored in between raids like that would make a lot of sense
Are you worried about players trying to steal the guild name I
Don't I don't I haven't thought about it
maybe maybe yeah I don't know maybe chat with blizzard and get it reserved or
something or we just name it something else I don't know oh wow entering the
water sounds terrible yeah the water is pretty rough I have to agree with that
gosh okay another pot this cave is really really rough for a level 8 mage
here guys
Report the water as a bug fix.
I'm going to write that down.
Water sounds.
Is there anything else that you guys can think of?
That's like a really big deal.
Like the water sounds sound pretty bad.
Obviously, you know, we already talked about the Manitix.
We've already talked about the UI.
Like big stuff.
UI, Manatex, yeah.
Oh, there's a chest here.
SD models for Skyborne.
Quest log attached to the map.
Oh, do you not like that? Maybe you could turn...
Oh, you can just turn it off like that.
Just a button here.
Moveable bags. Okay, yeah.
Dude, I need to set my hurst down, oh my gosh.
Yeah like I'm obviously in touch with Blizzard and I want to you know make the game as good
as possible.
There's a few reasons I want to make the game as good as possible.
The first is because I'm a lifelong WoW player,
but the second, to be very transparent with you guys,
I want the game as good as possible too.
I'm a streamer, bro.
I want a good game to stream.
Are you kidding me?
Very, very good overall.
But at the same time, I want to be
able to give constructive feedback.
I hope it never comes off.
I'm just like, oh, everything is amazing.
Because it's like, no, there is some things that
should be looked at.
And those are the things that I want to write down
and be sure that we kind of look at,
because we all want to play the best game possible, right?
So toggle helm cloak.
So that's going to be available at the Tramsmy guy,
even if you have it turned off, which is a little weird way
of doing it.
But I guess that's what they wanted to do.
Ranked PVP is a big stuff.
Please listen, man.
So they've already kind of like, we've had these conversations.
They're already kind of looking into it.
But I think the reality is like,
I hate saying this,
cause it's like an awkward thing to like tell someone,
but it's, okay, how do I say this?
The person who ranked PVP is a big deal for,
it's a massive deal for, source.
I used to be that guy.
The person who cares about ranked arena is there they care about it because it's the only thing they play
They won't play anything else unless it's that's in the game. Does that sound about right like it?
Does that I got I want to speak for everyone, but like that's that's I mean I was that guy
Right like that is that was literally me
It's like I want this because this is like a big deal
I am when you sit here and play this all day long, right? And if it's not in the game, it's like
Like, brah, that's the whole reason I'm playing, right?
That was me for like ever, by the way.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Maybe one day they add it.
Maybe one day they add it.
We heard in the interview today
that that's not part of their plan.
That they have no plans for anything ranked.
They want to have ranking, but no rating.
They want you to be able to play the game
and get a title, grand marshal or whatever,
reset and get gear and do do the ranking grind and play with your friends whatever
but they don't want any like a rating associated no mythic plus score no IO score like this
that no what's it called arena rating like that's just I don't know so they said man
So we'll see maybe one day they change
See you soon
Interest you on the fight?
Yeah good.
Ooh whoa whoa whoa.
Guys look I don't take handouts but I need to test this for you guys.
Because these are new things.
So this is not a handout.
What this is is me beta testing.
Okay, used increases spell damage by up to 5 for 30 minutes.
So I'm gonna beta test this by drinking it.
Okay, it does in fact work.
I might as well keep the buff up.
Let's beta test this one as well.
Elixir of minor defense, 50 armor for an hour.
Yeah, that seems to be working as well.
Cool.
Do you guys need me to beta test anything else?
Just let me know.
If you need me to beta test your gold, mounts, items, epics, I'll test them out for everyone,
one. Whatever. Cool.
Nick Jones, thanks for the prime. I'm actually, I've shatted about this a little bit, but when
Classic Forever actually launches, I'm pulling around. I haven't decided exactly what I'm doing,
game, but I'm pulling around with leveling to 60, like, like self-found, like, okay,
kind of self-found, like, like turning trades off, essentially not allowing anyone to, to,
to trade me anything, except I am, would allow myself to sell things on the auction house,
like if I got like, uh, or whatever I could sell my own ore for market price, keyword
for market price. So essentially playing the game authentically, playing the game how I played it
growing up, playing the game how I played it before I streamed, playing the game how I played it
most of my life, right? Like just playing it. I'm toying with that idea, right? So turning
off trading, only being able to sell things for market price and just playing the game like anyone
else would. Because it makes the game like so fun when you actually are always reaching and
striving for the next thing. Like I said, I haven't made my mind up, but I think that's how I played
season of discovery if you guys followed me there and it was really fun you know
that's how I played son and it was it was exciting because you know it was
doing my thing so I think that's probably what I'll do but I haven't like
committed to that
yeah for enchanted up to like you know obviously do stuff yeah
You better do it. Well, so that's how I played sod right on sod on my sod guy
I did didn't know handouts. That's how I usually play hardcore obviously with cell phone
It's like generally how I like to play but
We'll see what happens. Okay, there is
There's like definitely
I mean we might as well do a look here we might as well do a look
Have I used my campfire yet? No
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This guy is like, yeah rogues are just.
He just didn't get slowed twice.
Was that too resists or am I trippin' here?
I could pot here but we're not gonna pot.
honorable I lost good dual racial hmm escape artist gives you immunity to snares
for three seconds that's got to be new right oh wow dude is that new that's
It's gotta be new, right?
Is that not new?
Yes, new, no, not new.
Yes, new, no, not new.
And you used to only cleanse the slow, right?
It wouldn't give you immunity.
Okay, we got a tool this guy again.
I mean, if we're still gonna wait and we took the L,
we can't lose twice in a row, no way.
Immunity now, three seconds.
I was watching the stream.
Yeah, that's insane.
So Heartbeat's still a thing, by the way, because it broke right there.
Okay, much better, much better, he's definitely one of the sheeps.
Sheep is definitely very good.
I guess he doesn't have, he didn't have a scape artist.
If he has a scape artist, maybe I just lose again, because he just runs at me with that
thing.
For a scape artist, dude, gnomes are, gnomes are kind of disgusting, guys.
Majest OOP, yeah, it's kind of nuts.
How do you see raiding and frog going when it's forever?
It's gonna go very well.
It's gonna go very well.
Oh dude!
Okay, we haven't talked about this almost at all.
Guys, there is focus targeting.
In this game
We have barely
Touched on this
Like
That's it it's kind of crazy like focus in classic while it's kind of nuts for PvP, maybe it's a bigger deal
But the fact that you have a focus is crazy
easy. It's cool. I mean, it's, I think overall I like it. Obviously I'm a PVP or I'm very
used to using it, but it is like, there is going to be some implications with it. But
maybe it's just good overall. I don't know. I think it's one of those things that I actually
wouldn't have cared either way. But definitely interesting. Yeah, I'm gonna have to make
like a billion macros here with no arenas it doesn't really change much yeah
yeah like that's kind of true like in a sense like it'll it'll change like the
quality of world PvP like players using focus will kind of dunk on players without using it, right?
Like it's just more effective. You're gonna be mechanically better stronger faster everything
But that's kind of my point like even though it's unrated you're gonna have to use focus if you want to compete at a
Like a compete. I can't even use the word compete because there's no rating like it's for it's just for fun
So maybe it's fine
I guess my point being though to finish my point is like
Like, if you want to play the best you can, you will need to use focus, and classic players
aren't used to that.
So it is a brand new thing for a lot of people, that are more, you know, classic Andes.
But I mean, for me it's not, but...
It's nice in raids too, if you have to like, kick something on an off-target, it's nice
in a dungeon if you want to sheep something. I guess overall I like it, but how's the game
so far? I'm blown away. I'm actually kind of confused why I'm blown away because I've
actually played at BlizzCon and I've played at Blizzard HQ and today feels much better
than both of those times and I'm trying to figure out like exactly why other than I'm
I'm at my home computer.
I think at BlizzCon, like the crowd was so loud.
It wasn't my PC setup.
You couldn't make macros.
I had like 30 seconds to set up my character
and jump into a dungeon.
So I'm just kind of like clicking everything.
Like everything just felt kind of weird.
I think I really like that.
I think I'm actually playing for the first time.
When I was at Blizz HQ, same thing.
I was at like not my right computer.
I was just kind of like trying to test
and look at as much as I could before we had to go.
So I wasn't actually like playing. I think it's my first time actually just sitting down and playing. You know what I mean?
Okay, I'm getting owned here.
What macros have you made or what do you suggest?
I mean at this level you don't need any, but I would suggest using focus macros once you
progress through the game.
So I would recommend a key bind to set a focus and then focus polymorph, focus frostbull.
Am I using questy?
It's built-in quest now, which is pretty nice.
How much did they allow you to mess with the Blizzard HQ?
Trying to think how long we actually played.
I want to say like two hours, three hours.
Two hours, like it wasn't very long.
I definitely didn't get like as much time as I would like, you know?
I'm used to arena one two three. Yeah. Yeah, totally
Is there a way to set a focus modifier, I would assume so I'll double check but yeah
That's usually you can just be like shift is my focus modifier
Focus modifier key focus caskey
Yeah, so if you guys don't if you guys want to really light on your setup, you know
Say you're not used to focus or you don't want to set it up like crazy
You can do focus cast key to like shift and then shift with anything. We'll just go to your focus instead of your main target
That's totally an option
It's an easy setup
I'll kind of watch you. I wear I should have no watch
Have I tested controller nah
How hard was it to keep on the DL after knowing stuff it was pretty hard like I'm not the type of guy that I'm trying to like
Like, like, like you guys knew, right? Like, you guys knew. I know you knew. You knew I know you knew.
Or you knew. I knew that you knew that I knew. Like, we all knew what was going on, but obviously, I'm under NDA, so I couldn't say anything, so it's like, we all knew what was going on.
So it was more just like, alright.
Yeah, the add-on for this guy's is better blizz frames.
Are you playing gnome to avoid the crowds?
Nah, although I do want to check out that human starting zone, because I know that
one way better.
Any new cool small quests?
A couple of them, yeah.
I made a classic UI out on classic UI for forever on Curseforge.
I think I've tried a couple.
I don't know if yours is working or not, but yeah, there's definitely...
I might try more of them tomorrow.
I actually like the one I'm using right now, but it's not obviously working for mini-map
and action bars and all that.
Yeah, I'll probably make a human and go to the human starting zone tomorrow or maybe the next day.
Like we have plenty of time with the beta, right? Like I'm gonna hit max on my mage
and then I'll make an ult for sure. Like for sure for sure. Because like what else are you gonna do, right?
And then I'll test out like warrior and Pali and rogue and priest maybe. We'll see how much time we have, but those are my favorites.
If I do undead it'll have to be on the PvE realm since you can't make crossfaction on PvP
What level do you get frostfire ball? I actually I have no idea. I would assume not so a bit higher. Oh
Small green pouch that still feels good, which is good. It's good that that feels good. It's good that that feels like it should
Because there's a world in which that doesn't feel good, which would be bad
If it doesn't feel good to loot a bag, then maybe you're progressing too quick and you
don't even notice, right?
That's good.
Well, Frostfire Bull have a way to instant cast.
As of right now, there's no brain freeze, but I think they should maybe add brain freeze,
And I know what you guys are going to say.
Of course you do, mage bias, omega law.
And to that I say, you're probably right, but still, I think they should add it, um,
so.
I'm not a magemane but I think brain freeze would be great for a frostfire build too.
Yeah.
Totally.
Same.
I am a magemane.
Warcraft just dropped even more codes in the chat.
Oh really?
Thanks for dropping more codes, Warcraft.
I didn't even notice.
Today has been legendary.
Today's been crazy.
What headset do I use holding for you, man?
Any cool green drops yet?
Nothing.
Nothing.
But I'm only level 9, like it should be that way, right?
My game just crashed, but there's no more Q to log in.
Nice.
Yeah, so hopefully we beat the rush of the Q.
Like hopefully from here on out the key will be either lower or like non-existent.
I'm like so excited to game off. There's so much stuff like little stuff I want to test over the next few weeks.
Also like I want to dial in like my the UI situation and like like find comb through like the settings and this and that.
If you do crafting stuff, you gain your greens right at level 2, that's wild man.
I still don't have first aid yet, so we'll see what happens there.
I have to sit in a queue to play.
The queue should be like going down soon.
By the way, there was a global queue, right?
Like there was no NAE realms, it was like a global login.
So like that's also why it just felt probably nuts.
Apparently there's really good early leather working items that people are getting.
Definitely not looked into that.
Does anyone else you can double dip Eureka?
I actually can't tell yet.
So say you have one charge left of Eureka and you do like fireball, fire blasts, are
Are they both going to be half mana or no?
You can't.
It's only the first cast.
Classic cast bar is this.
Oh, it's so nice, man.
So
So we'll turn in like all of these quests here and then get First Aid and Semi-Hearth.
Keep forgetting to do all those.
How do I move the bug fix thing?
You just click on it and move it.
You have to click on here.
Can I play with Europeans?
Yes.
The fog and tears fall looks amazing.
I'll have to do an undead Pali on the PvE realm.
I can't do a character on the PvP, I'll have to do an Undead Pallion PV.
What I'll probably do is like level this mage to 20, mess around, then level a warrior to 20 and mess around,
and then level like an Undead Pallion mess around.
Or something.
Please turn on enhance mode for a bit, pretty please.
It basically is.
Guys, enhance mode, all it changes.
Well, there's like some UI stuff.
Like, the thing that you guys would notice the difference of is whether or not you have SD or HD character models.
That's basically what it is.
There's like the quest, toggle difference, and like, transmog and...
I don't think there's anything else. But it's basically just that.
And I've already showed that, it's just the retail one.
So...
Okay, so we hit level 10. Nice.
Let's set our Hearthstone and get first aid.
Speak with Pink and Iron Forge, yeah I could do that.
Contra Water, Frost Armor, and Nova, okay Nova is big.
Contra Water is big.
Okay, let's get a little first aid here.
Small brown pouch, I actually don't have enough of that.
Okay.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Minor healing potion, first aid one.
Empty vile spices and peace bloom.
Huh.
Crazy.
see you soon!
What does Alk do? I would assume it makes like this stuff like the minor arcane elixir
Maybe you still make him as Alk too, but
Okay, make this in your home, so
What can I get for you today?
Stick your feet on the ground.
Rhapsody malt, nice.
What can I get for you?
You got my...
Train cooking.
How are you?
Nice.
Great to meet you.
Okay, Zephyrus Isle is honestly way bigger than I thought.
Wait, can you make a Skyborne right now?
I don't know why I didn't.
Think about that.
Slash who's Zephyrus.
Oh, you can.
Sick.
Yeah, I might have to do that too.
Just to experience the starting zone.
Travels test humans human zone after y'all make a human I'm making undead
And see how we feel from there and they reworked proxy a little bit
So if I do slash set, you can also craft trade skills as long as you stay sit.
Like can I do, like when I'm sitting can I do first aid?
Well, it looks like I'm standing now, but maybe it's working because I stole this buff.
I like that race your first aid skill to 20 we're almost there
How do you have so much linen? I mean, I've been questing, man. I've been grinding.
We've been out there.
Are you 100% going No Mage unreleased? Not 100%, but probably pretty close to 100%.
Like, yeah, definitely doing...
It'll be No Mage, Human Warrior, or Undead Pally, I think.
But probably No Mage.
Secondary name is mandatory, but it can be hidden.
Talent point?
Oh, yeah, true.
Wait, where are talents?
At level 20, can you get Ice Lance?
I think at level 20, do I want Ice Lance or do I want Arcane Blaster or do I want Pyro?
Pyro is going to be awful, I think.
So Arcane Blast are Ice Lands.
I think I'll go Frost for leveling and then maybe I'll Respec Arcane at 20.
Since Arcane Blast is required to like play Arcane, yeah I'll do this first.
There's also 1% hit chance.
Might go Cast Time.
Yeah, I don't know, I might mess with that later, but I'll send that for now.
Okay, cool.
How do you get add-ons, please?
You can just drag them to your add-ons folder, just like normal.
I don't see my target for him in edit mode.
You have to click target and focus, then move it.
Can you change talents to that cost?
No.
That's sick of that.
Snow, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, look at that guys.
That is classic World of Warcraft right there.
I mean come on man.
Unbelievable.
So sick.
Did I set my Earth?
Yeah, Thunderbrew Distillery, got it.
Can't get better than this.
Yeah, I'm blowing away, man.
Why not Sky Elf?
Skyborne, you mean?
I was gonna play Skyborne, maybe, but I don't know.
I don't know.
second to the number now
case that
be nice. How's the racial feeling? Busted. Like, too good.
Yep, cooldown manager is in a new UI.
I haven't messed around with it too much, but it's there.
aid kit so what does that mean so with water I can unpack a first aid kit that
allows you and others sitting nearby to gain three stamina exclusive with
powered fortitude. I'm gonna test out camping. So if I get refreshing spring
water and I use linen bandages, I can sit near a campfire and buff up everyone
else. Let's check this out.
First aid kit I've got to say this new profession tab I mean I'm pretty against like all the
new UI stuff but like actually looks kind of deice.
You cannot place a feature that close to an object.
See this?
I'm inside of it.
Nice.
No, it's not.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't like it visually, but I like the utility that all
of the professions are right here.
Like cooking, first aid, mining, and professions are all in a very easily accessible tab.
So when you're sitting down, all you have to do is click this, and then you have all
your stuff.
Like, okay, I want to make some meat, okay, I want to make some first aid, okay, I want
to, you know, do any of my prop stuff.
It's all right there.
I think, I guess that's what I meant.
Like I like the utility of like, that it's all here now.
But yeah, if I could make it look like the old textures and stuff, like make it like
classify it like I would maybe an add-on who knows yeah guys guys we need an add-on to not only do the
The mini map and like the action Mars black all of the all of like the spell book and like the talents
Like all this stuff you imagine. I mean nuts
bro you are jacked um is he talking to this night off right here now right though
That guy is pretty jacked GZ man
All right
All right guys
Today has been
Legendary it's been historical it has been nuts today was the biggest stream we've ever done
by a mile it has been great like crazy I can't cannot believe today's turnout it
was legendary guys we'll be back tomorrow bright and early I'll probably
start normal time a little early and we'll send it all day tomorrow I am
going to sleep that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna sleep today was a day today was
today was absolutely insane guys I was not very good at saying thank you for
subs today. I was just completely overwhelmed trying to do everything. If you subbed today,
thank you very much. Whether it was a Prime of Tier 1, a Gifted, the donations, whatever
it was, thank you guys. Today was ridiculous. Today was ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
The game is mind blowing. It's good, guys. It's good. It has its things, but I'm excited.
I'm very, very, very excited.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.
We'll continue this mage.
We'll get to level 20.
I don't know if we'll get 20 tomorrow,
but probably close and we'll make a bunch of ults.
The beta should be a ton of fun.
Thanks for watching.
If you're new around here, hit the follow button.
We'll throw a raid.
And someone will do more giveaways tomorrow as well.
Massive GG's, guys.
We're out of here.
Peace.