I'm not going to let you go, I'm not going to let you go, I'm not going to let you go.
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How are you?
Good morning chat and happy Friday, Friday, September 18th, guys, we are back.
If you're watching this starting soon, I have not had the chance to look through every
single option setting until just right now literally haven't had a chance to just
sit there and read for a second but I went through every single setting just
now just to see if we miss anything and actually I think we got most of it so
that's good guys I am so amped to be here it is absolutely insane if anyone
has FPS issues second lighting fix my issue boosts my 40 FPS oh really
secondary lighting huh yeah I'm gonna have to min max and dial all the stuff
the secondary lighting looks really good. Um, 130, that didn't really change anything for
me. Yeah, I don't know. Well, mid max and tile all that small stuff, but holy crap. Yeah,
we'll do some more giveaways later. We'll do some PVP. We'll do some leveling, maybe
make an alt. Who knows. Got some big day yesterday, bros nuts. How to turn on that
PS control are what class got on us that I'm trying a bunch of different ones. This
This one is the one I'm currently using.
These ones seem to be bugged this morning, so I don't know.
I'll be swapping around based on what works.
Did I notice missile bug?
I have not.
I have not.
I have not.
Getting last things finalized, I killed in props, but you still want to try classic
UI.
I made classic UI forever.
The one with the Griffin add-on pick.
Okay, cool.
Does it have like action bars and stuff?
I don't know.
Like I said, I've been trying a bunch of different ones.
Holy crap guys, what a launch yesterday, huh? Now we can actually play the game. What have I missed since yesterday?
I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even know.
Santafin 10 gifted subs. Thank you very much man. Welcome in guys and enjoy not watching ads.
Render scale? Yeah, makes it look nice. When are we gonna make a guild today? Today.
Night time looks amazing. Heck yeah.
Are you going to play Skyborne ever?
Maybe.
Probably.
More key giveaways today?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yo, Biwi.
Five gives it to us.
Thank you very much, man.
Couch.
Thanks to the Prime doga.
Thanks to the Prime arrow.
Thanks to the Prime.
I'm not using any of the render skill commands.
Yeah, I want to try Warrior.
I want to try Pali and Mage and maybe Rogue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crokey, thanks LePron.
It's a cool on manager working.
I'm not even sure yet.
I haven't tried that.
I'm not seeing a lot of people play Hunter.
Dude, I haven't seen a lot of Pallies.
I feel like Pallies got the most love out of any class
because they needed it the most.
I'm seeing a lot of Pallidons.
It is crazy.
Crazy, crazy.
Our add-ons are working in beta, yeah.
Yeah, guys, my BlizzCon voice is still going on,
so I apologize for that.
We're like trying to hang in there,
but gotta keep the throat lubricated.
We got a massive thing of water here,
so we're just gonna keep sending.
Honey and lemon, yeah, I actually ate some honey
this morning.
I was like going crazy on it.
Very nice, very, very nice honey on the throat.
Yo, face roll, good morning, man.
Pal-E's got almost nothing, lol, are you kidding?
Pal-E's got more than any other class, like, in general they didn't change, like, classes too much,
but Pal-E's got, like, the most love, but I'm not complaining, like, they needed it, right?
They did. 100%.
100% needed it.
Am I enjoying forever? I am, man. Like, I actually just, I-I-
This is- this is the game we've been waiting for.
I feel like for so long, we haven't had a game to just play in WoW.
Of course, there's hardcore.
Of course there's Season of Discovery, of course there's TBC, but when you start thinking all of these things, TBC gets deleted or moves to wrath.
Season of Discovery gets deleted or dies. Hardcore you eventually die.
We haven't had a wow to actually play since all of us played retail that we actually expect updates on for the servers to go nowhere and to actually have a main and smalls and have fun.
We haven't actually had this in, for me,
When's the last time I've been, like, loved retail,
like, 10 years ago?
It's been, like, a decade, guys.
Since we've, since for me,
I've been able to just log in and play WoW
and be like, this WoW isn't going anywhere, right?
We're gonna be able to play this and expect updates
and expect new content.
Like, this is awesome.
This is amazing, right?
I was thinking about that this morning.
It's like, we haven't, like,
that's why I put my stream title
as to like, we're finally home.
It's like, guys, we're finally home.
We've, it's been too long.
We've waited so long for this and now we actually have a place to just play. Wow.
It's insane.
I spilled water all over myself. You guys can't really see that, right?
You guys can't really see that, right?
It doesn't really show up in the camera. Okay. We're good.
No, can't see anything. All right. We'll just leave it there then. Sick.
As long as you can't see it, we're good.
Yeah, there was like a hole in my lip. I think just right now. I'll try again
What's the state of mage mage got almost nothing but mages also didn't need much
Mages are already really fun mages in classic. Wow work. So like they didn't really get much, but you don't really need much
You know what I'm saying?
May just got nerfed may just actually did get nerfed like with aoe and stuff, but we'll see how feels we'll see how feels
Thoughts on there being a focus frame in forever. Uh, I
Kind of just think it's probably the right move and I kind of like it, but I
Don't know it is also like feels like maybe a bit weird
But I think it's probably the right move. I think it's probably the right way
We'll see. Focus is net good. Yeah I like that mentality like whenever you add
something it's more about is it net good or net bad because of course there's
pros and cons but it's a net good or net bad. I think it's net good. I agree with
that.
Would you recommend a new player to go air out for the classic experience? I
would start forever straight up like this is the time to play forever. Hey
Hey, Hart, thanks for the prime, man.
Why would focus ever be bad?
I mean, it changes how mechanics work in the game, right?
Like, if you don't use focus,
you're gonna be like mechanically behind.
But, I mean, as someone who plays with focus
and likes focus, I like it.
But it's definitely a big change.
Please explain focus.
You can have two targets at once.
You can shoot at this target
or at your focus target.
So, say I'm like attacking this dwarf,
I can then sheep this dwarf, right?
I can have two different targets at the same time.
How do you change layer?
I don't think you can.
I mean, same as normal.
Can we have chat above your webcam?
Eh, no.
How did you disable last name just in the settings?
Is there a focus modifier?
Yeah.
Which UI?
I don't know my using.
I'm trying Forever Classic UI right now.
It seems like all of them are kind of scuffed,
but I'll be trying a bunch of them
and I'll be using obviously whatever one is the best one.
How many add-ons do you have?
Just that one right now.
Just the UI is like the only thing I care about.
What am I excited for today?
Playing World of Warcraft.
Yeah.
Try the add-on Classic UI Forever.
It does all the UI windows and the action bars.
Really? Should I try it?
Classic UI forever.
1.1K downloads.
I'll try it.
I think someone in the chat,
the author of the add-on was in the chat just a second ago.
I'm using this one, and I liked it. Let's see. Okay, so it puts like the old
Map
Yeah, this seems to this seems to work pretty well. Oh, it's the old spellbook. Oh
Cool. Oh so much better talents. They couldn't do because that's fine
Quest log? Old quest log? Oh nice. Professions obviously they couldn't do.
Map looks real the same. The map fading when you move is kind of weird. I think
you can turn that off. Oh wow, the options menu being transparent really looks nice.
Oh, they even changed the game menu to look like the old one.
Oh, this one looks really nice, guys.
Classic main menu bar, one bar.
Quest pane game menu.
Classic button style.
Square icons.
Hide bars, hide empty slots, classic unit frames, yeah.
Welcome note, combo points, mini map, name plates.
they did name plates of this too?
All the name plates are there too.
They look a little janky,
but like at least it's kind of like, right?
Oh, what's the name of it?
It's a classic UI forever.
The only thing I need to change now is my UI scale.
Oh, they changed all the buttons in here
to look better too.
Like you see all the buttons like in the actual menu.
Bro, whoever made this like cooked.
Okay, this needs to be, wait, shoot, okay, that's obviously too big, that, right, something
like that. Okay, I'm gonna definitely be tweaking all this stuff like a lot, but we'll figure
out. Sick. Nice, I like that. Yeah, just in general, yeah. Seems to kind of work. Oh
yeah, feels nice. How do you have first name? You just disable in the settings, it's just
visual. Try to use missiles and melee range and take an auto hit. Okay.
As far as too good. Wait, I didn't- what was I supposed to- I clearly missed it.
Clearly miss whatever was supposed to happen there.
Okay, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice,
Okay, nice.
I think this looks pretty good right now.
I'm trying to think of just anything else.
Yeah, this looks pretty good.
They added this back to all way better
Dude whoever did this crush it man obviously needs it's like buggy and needs a lot of work
Well, I just looks so nice. Oh
Griffins, how do I get rid of the Griffins? Maybe it's in here
It's a lot of it is the textures man that the old textures are so good. Oh
Nice, okay, there's no hide griffins. That's okay though
At a mode yet doesn't work with the add-on like I said it's fine
All right
Good morning chat. Good morning. Good morning
Good morning. Good morning
Where do you download the add-on?
Curse forge
Have a good day homie back at you
Back at you hide our parts in the menu. Yeah, it's not not not it guys that is
Guys that is it guys that that is it
Can normally that isn't it without the add-on but with yet on it does work to do that guys
That is it hide our parts there told you guys
Totally told you guys
What's this?
Hi
Insane
Insane DLSS 5. I don't know. Yo Rob. Thanks for the crime
Griffin's our base. I always hide them feel so much better. Yeah, what's the add-on name?
Plastic UI forever is the one I'm using currently.
There's a bunch of different ones that do the same thing, but I think this one looks
the best that I've seen.
So that's what we're sending.
Giveaway, yeah, we'll do more giveaways now right now though.
FPS, control lower, bottom right.
Can you show graphic shirt? Oh
My dude like for me the old textures are such a big deal
Like I don't know if anyone else cares besides me. I might be the only one in the world like see these are the new textures
Oh old textures. Oh, yeah, I love the old textures, bro
You're the only one it might just be me it might literally just be me
But I just love it. It has such flavor to it. It's like oh
so nice
Try to select DLSS 5 please.
Where would I even?
Where do I even?
Hey Viking, thanks for the prom, brother.
Alright, so the first thing I want to do today is actually check out that dev interview that
I missed.
There's one dev interview and then I want to just play all day.
I think the dev interview is only like 10, 20 minutes.
There was one from like a day ago.
this came across this item oh yeah let's open this real quick since we're
back in the game the daily 50 for 50 is on I roll a 29 bro I can't even show
you cuz I can't move it cuz Edimond is awesome is it the dev hour no it's this
one oh this looks so good like the old textures here bro I'm nerding okay let's
turn sound off. It's 22 minutes. So I didn't check out this one with Nora and Tim.
Or is really a promise? Wow.
Okay. I'm going to check out this and then we're just going to play all day.
Can you pin the UI add on? That's a good idea.
Classic UI forever.
I am currently using classic UI forever add on for my UI.
Pin message, crap, pin message.
Guys, you're typing too fast, I can't pin it.
Okay, pin it, got it.
There it is.
All right, I'm gonna watch this video
and then we're gonna play the game.
Let's check it out, guys.
This is the one Devinter review that I haven't seen.
World of Warcraft, Forever Devs
answer our biggest questions at BlizzCon.
Let's hear it, Tim.
Let's hear it.
is really a promise to players that we are building a game that's based off of
the vanilla World of Warcraft world with the promise that we are capping players
at level 60 we're not going to outland we are in a place in between Warcraft
3 and the Burning Crusade perpetually we want to live kind of in this
isolated timeline, if you will, where we've never opened the Dark Portal, but it's in that 2004 space.
We're starting in a place where Molten Core hasn't even opened up.
There are major lore characters that are still alive, because we're at this point in time.
Arthas is still up in Northrend, Illidan's still out in Outland, but there's still so many places to explore and build upon
in a world that is at this point in time.
And even places that people know about,
like Hydro or Gilneas, that we can create new content for
in a point in time that no one's ever experienced
these zones in.
People have played Hydro in Cataclysm, right?
But people have never gone through Hydro
or seen what it's like after the events
of Warcraft 3, but before the Cataclysm.
Lots of fleshing out.
So like I was thinking about this last night and this morning
and I talked about it earlier on stream today.
This is the first time we've actually had a world of Warcraft
that we can call home in a very long time.
And let me explain to you what I mean by that exactly.
When Season of Discovery came out, it was awesome, right?
It was a lot of fun, P1 was amazing,
but we all knew that it would come to an end
and we'd all have our characters either be deleted
or it would be meaningless because everyone would quit.
We all knew that and it came to an end
and all of our characters sitting there
and they're meaningless, right?
With retail, of course, right?
There's new expansions and there's new content
and there's new bosses and that's awesome.
But I think in the back of our heads,
a lot of us know like retail isn't the game
we want it to be and that's not true for everyone.
For everyone, they love retail and that's awesome.
But for a lot of us, it's not like quite the game
we want it to be.
So like we play the new expansions, we check it out
And it's like, we kind of know that it's fun,
but it doesn't really scratch the MMO age we're looking for.
So we go back to like classic era, hardcore or TBC.
And it's like, okay, well, TBC is awesome too.
What about TBC?
It's like, well, in the back of our minds,
we know TBC is gonna come to an end.
Either it'll release Wrath or our characters will rot
because there's gonna be no new content added.
Classic era, same thing, classic era was great.
But we know it's gonna have no new content
and our characters will be sitting there
and at the end of the day, the characters will sit there.
Same thing with Hardcore.
Hardcore is amazing, I love it.
But at the end of the day, there's no new content added
and our characters will kind of sit there.
So we've been in this world of Warcraft sphere
for a lot of us over a decade, 10 years plus,
where we haven't had a place to call home.
We've just been very transitory over the last decade
between season of discovery, classic era, TBC,
wrath, tata, mop, sod, hardcore, bouncing, bouncing,
seasonal, seasonal.
It's the first time since for me, like 2016, 2014,
like 10 plus years that I'd be able to just log in
in the morning onto a character and be like, yeah, this is my guy and I'm going to make
some alts and we're going to expect new content and it's not going to just end and it's not
going to be a season and we're not going to just like clear the last thing and just be
like, okay, what do we do now? Because there's going to be something else in three to six
months and something else and something else. So like your time is worth it again for
the first time in a decade. It's insane. It's insane. That's what I was seeing
about this morning and last night, like it feels incredible as a WoW player to have a
place to call home, right? Retail is that for a lot of people already, and that's fine.
But I think for a lot of us where retail went off the rails on certain decisions, which
is fine for some people, but for a lot of us it isn't that anymore and it hasn't
been that for a very long time. So, oh my gosh, we're home boys, like we can actually
just play again for the first time in a long time. Here we go.
You know, zones that were maybe previously unfinished, like areas of the world that players
have never been able to explore before, things like the riverglades, for instance, and WoW
Forever is something that like, it's new, right?
It's new in WoW Forever, but it's something that is so, it fits so well within the
vanilla world that it feels as if it could have been there the whole time.
And like, surely the feedback we've heard is that, you know, like, oh, this really
does feel like classic.
It plays like, you know, it plays like it was,
it's genuine to that classic Warcraft vibe
that we're going for.
And that's exactly the kind of content
that players can look forward to.
We are going to continue to support
and make content for this version of World of Warcraft
forever so that people feel safe progressing,
investing time into their characters
and having that time investment and progression
always have meaning.
You know, you go from like this,
this game with classic that feels very preservation focused
when you change to making new content
for something, you're gonna scale up
with like more artists, that kind of thing.
But I find it really fascinating as like,
folks have gotten used to making retail assets,
which is, you know, you've got more poly counts,
you've got, you know, different tools, that kind of thing.
I'm curious, what the road to like bringing on artists
for the team to like make assets that are set
in the 2004 version of, wow,
I imagine it's a different process.
Yeah, I mean, neither of us are artists,
but we've worked with artists
and gone through this process,
and it's been a fascinating learning experience.
This is a big one for me.
Like, so I've already, if you watched the stream
since this morning, went ahead and downloaded an add-on
called Classic UI forever,
and it brings back the Classic UI
and a lot of the textures
and the old spellbook and stuff like that.
For me, this is a big one.
I like the OG stuff.
So I'm curious what he's gonna say,
but clearly for me,
it is still a little too modern in that aspect,
But I will say I do like that lighting.
OK.
I think the world looks beautiful.
All right.
So I'm happy with that.
To say the least, like you said, people had different tools.
People had different software, different operating systems
back in 2004.
Our texture files were saved at different resolutions.
And some of that software is no longer
existent or supported nowadays.
And so it's definitely been an exciting opportunity
for our artists to look at how texture UV maps were handled
and really try to recapture when creating
our new armor sets and weapons to figure out
how the colors and the reflections make sure
that those items feel like they have always existed
and could always belong in the classic world.
And that's a philosophy that we apply to everything that we make, not just art, but design.
We're always measured.
This is really interesting.
I'm going to come up with a really terrible analogy right now.
If you're an artist out there, please plug your ears.
But this almost reminds me of like, if someone wants to mimic an old school painting.
And for some reason, like the old school paintings were developed with like hand
and mixed dyes and like hand mixed paints and like a brush that was like put together with
like I don't know like the hair of like like of a horse tail or something I don't know
like OG and it's like it's like it's like really scuffed and like scrape what you can
like see the scrapes and this and that versus a modern painting with like a perfectly mass
produce paintbrush that makes it smooth, better, right? A perfectly like curated blend of color
in the paint itself. So you have like a really consistent color, which is better, right? But
then you, the final product then looks much different, right? This analogy isn't working.
Wait, I said artist out there plug your ears.
For us, normally non-artists, does it really not work?
It's totally working?
Try again?
I feel like it works.
Anyway, my point is he's saying the actual,
like the files, you save them in different res.
It's like the software they used back then
doesn't even exist anymore.
It's like crap, right?
It's tough because someone like me
loves the old, you know, texturing, right? Like, I actually just like that OG texturing a lot.
Right? So I would love, I would love a middle ground, but I guess we have to settle for the
unknown for now.
Drain things against how they-
It's a great analogy, thanks, Cosmic.
We like to use the term found photographs, like things that could have always existed in the
2004 game.
Yeah, setting out to build WoW Forever. We kind of, you know, there was a lot of back
and forth about kind of what kind of visual fidelity to strike and we ultimately landed
on like, wow, not identical to how it was, but how you remembered it, like how you'd
imagine that it felt right.
And like, after, you know, so much hard work and effort, our artists, our rendering crew,
they, you know, when they finally got those graphical updates into the build and
our team started jumping in, it was truly a magical moment to, as someone, I mean
Myself, I grew up in World of Warcraft
and to see the sun poking through the leaves
in Elwin forests, I got emotional.
I started like crying at my desk.
My husband had to be like,
what happened?
Are you okay?
It's just work stuff.
Like it.
I remember playing in our internal alpha
when we were just seeing the first elements
of like God raise and volumetric fog
and custom lighting to really recapture
the identity of these zones.
But in what player's minds I was,
and one special moment for me was,
you know, leveling a night elf hunter
and leaving Menethil Harbor to go up
through the coast of wetlands,
and then looking off in the horizon,
seeing this glorious sunset at the end of the day,
and then seeing the shadow of Dalaran off in the horizon,
and seeing the silhouette of Gilneas City
off across the bay, it was just like, holy cow.
This is so emotional, this is so special
what we're building.
I can't wait for people to have those same moments.
Guys, we have a screenshot section in Discord
and people have been linking just
themselves walking through the game.
Sorry to keep pausing the video,
but like to open up some of these,
it's highly relevant right now.
Like look at these screenshots.
These are just straight up screenshots
of you guys in the Discord playing the game.
It is absolutely remarkable.
Like it is, it is crazy.
The game looks beautiful, right?
The game itself, like the graphic update,
these are just screenshots that you guys have been posting.
It is so cool.
This one's not loading for some reason.
Oh, here we go.
Well, this is me streaming,
but you know, this is what we're focused on here.
Like it's incredible, man.
When they jump into our beta.
What was the balance like of, you know,
adding new gear and changes to classic as a whole
without making it feel completely different.
I imagine it's kind of a, you know,
can be a struggle I'd imagine
when you're first figuring that out.
Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people consider classic
to be a solved game.
And one of the things that we try to strive for
is we're mixing things up.
We've painstakingly gone through quest rewards,
dungeon rewards, and looked at itemization,
just in the same way that we are trying
to bring certain specializations from classes up
to be more viable.
We want quest rewards and dungeon rewards
that maybe people never cared about
to be something interesting and compelling to players.
One of the things I've been talking about
in previous interviews was
We now have certain affixes on items and trinkets
that are contextual to the biome that you're in
or the type of creature that you're fighting.
You may find a special trinket in Black Fathom Deeps
that allows you to do bonus damage against murlocs
or the staff of Westfall might allow you to run faster
in Elwyn Forest, Westfall and Red Ridge.
I love biome specific effects.
These are brilliant.
I don't know whose idea this was, but that is very smart.
Because now Staff of Westfall becomes more
than just a good staff.
It becomes the best staff if you want to move quickly
through this zone.
And just having that optionality is incredible, right?
I love that.
So these cool contextual items that let you interpret the
world differently, that you want to hold onto your bags
because maybe there's a special way of being optimized
that you weren't able to do before.
We wanna carry that itemization and reward philosophy
through all of our zones, dungeons, raids,
and really give people a new opportunity
to think about how to build their character
and experience the world.
That's, it's really cool what we're doing there.
Itemization-wise too, like we've really leaned into,
like if you think back to our classic,
there's all sorts of things.
Okay, we're all thinking,
Tim, you have a great beard.
Let's just say it.
Okay, we're all thinking it, Tim, your beard is incredible.
Okay, sorry, no, I keep going.
These iconic items that are just goofy, fun, gimmicky,
and we've got all manner of fun, gimmicky items.
Wow, I don't know if you saw the deep dive panel,
but Chris, at one point, had a slide that said,
spider swarm on it.
And when I saw that internally,
I remember going up to Tim and just being like,
guys, spider!
But like, you know, it's just this memorable, fun, playful,
you know, things in a fairly like rounded, serious
Warcraft world, right?
So what Holly said about going back to Warcraft
is something we feel very strongly about
and very passionate about in Well Forever.
The beauty about there being a level cap of 60
means that players can approach the game
differently if they want to.
There's gonna be opportunities for people to level fast
if they want to.
going to have the people who want to experience the raid content first and kill their bosses
and have things on farm. And that's awesome. We want to support the players who want to
do that playstyle. But the beauty of a game where the level cap is static and never moving
is that you can take the game at your own pace. And that's okay. Like the progress
that the finish line is not moving, right? So people will be able to take the game
at their own pace, put deliberate time into progression.
They can play the game.
If you only have 30 minutes during the week to play,
then you can log in, look at the quests in your logs,
complete a couple in Elwynn Forest,
go to the auction house, grab a couple of materials,
make some progress on your professions.
And because the focus, one of our core pillars
journey before destination. And we want to create content at all levels for players.
So good. This is like so good. Even though Endgame is super interesting,
we want there to be, you know, one of the nine dungeons that we've created is the Hall of Thanes.
Right? It's a kind of a sister dungeon to Rage Fire Chasm. Alliance never had a
like a 13 to 18 dungeon and now they do in the depths of where old iron forge has always been
which is super exciting to see guys they're just saying all the right things you know what I mean
like every one of these panels they're just saying all the stuff we want to hear it's like
yes yes yes um Tim there's no way you can do all of that in 30 minutes by the way that's
going to take what you just said it's going to be like a four hour thing but I agree with
with this point, that for a casual gamer,
when you play a game that is like a modern MMO,
that really forces the content down your throat,
you feel like, okay, I need to level super fast
in this and that, hardcore kind of brought us back
to this time, it's like, okay, I'm gonna log in,
quest for a few hours and log out,
and then I'll log back in and pick up right
where I left off.
Since the goal here isn't hit 60 in a raid log,
it's more let's level and have some fun, right?
It's such a good casual experience and good casual game,
even if you don't have a lot of time to play, which is cool.
That's what hardcore was, I think too, for a lot of people.
You pick up right where you left off.
Since there's no patches that vertically prog everything
with catch up mechanics and like, you know,
new patch means you have to just like grind this
into the newest newest stuff all the time and it's more just like all right let's focus on just playing
the game. A lot of that is a mental shift too, not even just a game shift but I like that they're
designing that with the focus of it's not classical out with more end game content, it's classical
out with more content from level one to 60. Not just a new raid after Naxx, not just a new
zone after Eastern Plague lands. It's, oh, there's new stuff along the whole journey, right?
It's so much better. And we want to continue to provide players new leveling opportunities,
whether it's a new zone, like the River Blades, new dungeons at different level bands. And things
like the legacy system allow people to create alts and carve new paths and have this
this accumulative account progression.
So we really want to put a major emphasis
on how valuable we think the leveling experience is,
incentivize people to make alts and take their time.
There's no rush getting through the leveling experience
and we're going to continue to support it.
Yeah, the legacy system and things like the racial updates
that Kristy talked about in the deep dive,
like those are things that, and those updates
in case you weren't aware,
They're making races, we're making race ratios
a lot more unique, distinct, such that we're giving
them more reasons to wanna bring different races
along to your adventure.
And things like that can really change,
honestly, your experience of your journey.
So if I main Night Elf drew it or something
and I get to 60, well, along my journey,
maybe I've gained some legacy points,
which might change my next journey, right?
But maybe I decide I wanna play
an Undead Paladin next, right?
That's also very different.
And so like it's the combination of just different mechanics,
different perks that you've gained over time,
I think are gonna really lead to these unique twists
on your journey.
And those journeys are filled with opportunities
to connect with other players,
which is super exciting to me
because that's one of the cornerstones for me
about World of Warcraft is those opportune moments
to socialize, connect, make friends, lifelong friends.
of times, right? Our camping system is another way that you can do that, right?
Because if we sit down at campfire, like, maybe you're gonna come and take advantage
of my buffs, maybe you're gonna gank me. I don't know. But it's just wonderful.
It's like, you can imagine it as just sort of a staging ground for all of
these really awesome potential opportunities to engage with other
players in a variety of ways. And are those buffs that I got at the campfire,
are those tied to explicitly the campfire system or to professions?
They're definitely tied to professions.
I mean, the cornerstone of the campfire system
is like the cooking fire, that the cooking profession crafts.
But we have a new system where a cooking fire
can accommodate a certain amount of extra objects
that are crafted by other professions.
So if you're a skinner, if you're a miner,
if you're a blacksmith, if you're a leather worker,
you can bring different things
that provide different bonuses to people.
to people and the hope is, like Nora said, you have to sit down for a minute to get these
buffs on you and the hope is that in that interstitial space when people are waiting,
you run into someone that might be on the same quest as you and maybe that turns into
a friendship.
Maybe you join that person's guild, maybe you're raiding together, maybe you're
going to BlizzCon together.
It's also like...
I like it, right?
In Classic WoW, you have flight pads, you have waiting for the boat or taking the boat,
you have running zone to zone, and now you have this campfire moment, right?
It's really, really nice.
It kind of mimics the ways in which Original Classic WoW led to these like, you know, serendipitous
moments where you're engaging with other players.
For example, like when I jump on a lengthy flight path, I'm maybe gonna, you know,
I might decide I'm going to talk to my guild,
have some conversation.
Maybe I'm going to, you know, somebody,
I'm flying through a zone and someone
asks a question in general chat.
I'm going to answer the question.
Same thing if I'm running to a dungeon.
Or go AFK and like make some food
or go to the bathroom and get some water too.
It's kind of nice having like some pacing
for that kind of stuff where it doesn't feel like
you have to just be there 24 seven.
Right there.
There are all these things that,
if you look at it at face value
and you're trying to think like, oh well,
but it takes time and the player's not doing,
making interesting choices or doing like active problem
solving or anything like they're engaging,
not engaging with these systems during that time
they're just running.
Like if you look at that at face value,
it can be tempting to want to like,
you know, do something about it and make it,
well, we'll add more flight paths.
Well, we'll make that run less,
less, you know, we'll reduce that friction, right?
But we look at it as, you know,
those are key to kind of providing you
with opportunities to kind of like slow down a little bit,
decide like, do you want to engage with other players?
They're just saying all the right things, guys.
Because like, if someone's bored
and they're posting in local defense
and they're just like, hey, this guy over here is flagged.
Does someone want to come, you know, help me go after him?
You know what I mean?
Like, maybe I'm going to like, you know,
I'm going to take a detour of my run, dungeon run
and I'm going to go help that person out.
And maybe that's going to strike up a friendship
or a rival with the guy I just ganked you.
Nice.
Sorry, I thought the ganking friend.
I'll stop with the ganking. Horde and Alliance, you know, typically on old servers, you only
have one of each type on a certain realm. Now you're going realm-less. Can I do PVP as Alliance
and Horde? Pretty sure we've restricted you to one faction on PVP specifically, but you
can create characters on the other rule sets at any time. We're also leaning into
faction balance, and you know, in the case of, you know, in PVP situations, we don't
want there to be a world in which our world logic that's
kind of distributing players throughout the world
is deciding, well, I see you quest in there,
just doing your own thing.
I'm going to decide to throw in like 40 horde who
are going to come after you and just mess you up.
Is it the first thing that I'm just like, why?
Is it a technical restraint?
Like, PVP was always that way from the beginning.
Yeah, but this is the first time we've only had one server.
So per account, you can literally only have one, you can either choose Alliance or Horde
per account for PVP, right?
People are saying no traders, like that's sure okay.
That's crazy to me still though.
I really, because people were asking me, could you make Alliance Nord on the same
rules that I'm like, probably, I don't see why not like to be crazy and that they are
restricting it. So we'll see, we'll see how that goes. Yeah, I'm playing ally where I
mean, good luck out there horde. That's what's happening.
Be a little more balanced in the sense such that, you know, at least maybe you'll have
more of a fighting chance and there's more social context involved too so that you
can encounter some of the same players more often and have that like mega realm
neighborly vibe such that like, I don't know, maybe Tim's building a reputation
for stealing my herbs or something, you know what I mean, like those are those are important
for us to have and while forever because those those are the relationships that matter, you
know.
Add-ons, are they going to be supported?
I know, obviously retail done away with most add-ons are, you know, a certain type of
add-on, right?
I think we're going to see that add-ons are supported in World of Warcraft forever.
There's going to be parity between certain restrictions that add-on in terms of the
information that add-ons have access to will probably have a lot of parity between
how mainline handles add-ons, but that still means that people have full access to customize UI
or other things that add-ons have been able to do.
Yeah, it's one of those things that like, you know, World of Warcraft is very unique in that,
like, we offer a variety of ways for players to customize their experience through add-ons,
and we want to preserve that. That's a given. The thing we want to stay away from is
allowing add-ons to have too much power and control over a player's experience such that,
A, they can be weaponized, or B, even just kind of impacting their experience negatively to the
point where it's just kind of trivializing everything they could be doing or engaging with
in the game. And it also means that we are investing in players having the ability to have
a damage meter supported by us, a cooldown manager within classic,
or within World of Warcraft forever,
things of that nature.
So.
Cool.
On pricing for the Skyborne elves,
I know they're, it's kind of $30 to get the pack,
get access to the race and their starting area.
How do you determine as a team,
like what is kind of included in the sub
and then what will come with like a premium?
I mean, I hope that people see
that what they're getting for a subscription at launch
is is our attitude towards what we want to provide players like we are going hard out of the gate
no you don't have access to the sky born but you have nine new dungeons you have a thousand
thousands of questions you have a thousand new quests brand new zones that you can go
and explore for the same subscription that you're paying for modern wow and and our
our classic variants of the game is.
That is actually crazy.
It really is.
That is actually crazy for a sub.
We're getting all this, right?
Of course, there's like higher packs.
You can buy this and that, but it is pretty nuts as well.
And we have an amazing roadmap of content
that Clay laid out in the what's next panel
here at BlizzCon where there are going to be
more raid tiers, more dungeons, more questing content,
more PVP content that we're adding to the game
for the base subscription.
So I hope people see that we are committed
to making amazing content for the subscription price
and really just committing to making, you know,
amazing content consistently for players.
Yeah, I wanna stress that like, especially myself,
I like to flip-flop between different versions
of World of Warcraft.
Although I don't know, when WoW Forever comes out,
I may be lost in WoW Forever forever.
Yeah, I was going to say the same.
I'm the guy that, I usually will try all these things,
but when this comes out, it's like, I don't know, man.
Yeah, we'll see.
You know what I'm saying?
We'll see.
The amazing thing is just that, yeah, like Tim mentioned,
all those different versions of World of Warcraft
that you can jump into and have a completely different journey
are all included in your subscription price, right?
Which hasn't budged in Giz.
Yeah.
When you, as a team, look for, you're
looking forward to new content, and you mentioned,
you kind of tease like, oh, we're
going to consider bringing new classes and that kind of thing.
When you look at where you can expand,
are the natural steps like, OK, it's time to bring Monk in?
Or are there maybe other areas that you
could explore new things, like people forever
want to tinker, right?
What's the kind of general philosophy
for that kind of thing?
There's content in our.
I am so afraid of them adding a new class.
I am more afraid than excited for a new class.
I will say that.
If they add a new class and it works, awesome.
But if they add a new class and it breaks everything,
now you're broken forever.
I am way more afraid.
Oh, you guys all agree.
A lot of you agree.
Okay, like a new class could be sick,
but it can also just break what we already have
and like, I don't know, part of me I'm just like,
ugh, be very careful with that.
For example, right, you add the death knight to the game
and like, you know, it's great and a lot of people love it
but it fundamentally changes everything forever
and you can't just remove a class once you add it.
You really can't.
So it's like, I don't know, new class is very,
I mean, it's terrifying for me to be completely honest.
It is terrifying that a new class.
I don't know.
If they did it right, it could be sick though.
Game that we want to add that is expected.
Mount Hygel falls under that umbrella where it's people know that it's in the game,
plays like illness. We haven't necessarily experienced that type of content in this timeline,
but people know it's there. We're not just checking a list of things. There is
enormous opportunity with the things that people expect, but we're looking for things that
surprise and delight us, that we're excited to build. We're all extremely passionate about the
vanilla world and exploring those places in between, like Riverglades is a great example. The
geographically, that space always existed on the vanilla map, but it was a blank slate,
geography that had never been realized and then was destroyed in the cataclysm.
So really exploring what that, just looking at the map
and seeing those spaces in between
and then looking at that and being like,
how could that exist in a World Warcraft forever world?
And then tying that to the storylines
of the surrounding zones and weaving the history
into that and making it feel like it's always existed
there.
So we're looking for opportunities like that.
It's not just checking off a list
and making sure that we, as we add new content,
we continue to look at the different levels.
It's like, okay, you know,
oh, the 37 to 42 bracket is,
could really use a new dungeon
because that's underrepresented
where other level brackets are overrepresented.
So we're just, we're trying to make as much cool content
for everyone at all different levels in our game.
There's tons of potential for us to explore, you know,
I want to say more bite-sized down-to-earth stories
rather than big, world-ending threats, right?
That it's, what are the people in this world doing
at this time period?
What do they care about?
What are their fears?
What situations are they in?
Are there opportunities to help them?
There are so many compelling stories that we can tell
and that can, I think, resonate with our players
and allow them to kind of,
kind of these stories that can reach through the screen
and grab you, right?
And sort of like, you know, kind of resonate like,
oh, that kind of reminds me of something
I went through in my life, right?
That's the kind of thing that I think folks remember
about a game.
And, you know, alongside, of course,
the relationships and the journey you have
with other people along the way.
Like, a lot of my wow friends that I've had
for over a decade, they showed up to my wedding
last year and I met people here at BlizzCon
who, you know, met their spouses
and more of the Warcraft.
like it is such an incredible game for that, right?
And so players and their stories
alongside the stories we tell through the world, I think,
are one of the most compelling things about Law Forever.
Guys, I mean, I feel like they are literally telling us
everything that we want to hear.
Like the last year or two of this discussion,
they're just like saying it back to us.
There are certain things, right,
that are like ooh, ooh, ooh, whatever.
But like overall, like they built the game we wanted
and like, oh, I'm so here for it, holy crap.
Just to show you guys some more screenshots.
While we're watching that video,
someone posted this in the Discord.
Someone posted this.
I mean, guys, these are just in-game screenshots.
I mean, this, I mean, it is ridiculous.
I mean, ridiculous.
I'm just, I'm just clicking these as we're going, man.
It is crazy.
So like, yeah, massive win here.
Also, if you guys know who WowKrama78 is,
we actually had a photo with her at BlizzCon.
Legendary, very nice meeting you, WowKrama78.
That was sick.
Yeah, if you guys watch her content, super dope.
She's taller than you?
No, no, no, no, I'm, look,
I'm not even on a straight leg either.
legs bent a little bit
alright, let's play the game
let's play the game, let's play the game, let's play the game
in your suddenly discord channel, can you give your thoughts on the pvp out on a dev made
For a while forever. Oh crap.
Oh, there's like a world PVP add on.
Yeah, I'll have to look into that.
There's basically like forts and outposts and stuff.
Huh, like that stuff should be like like baseline though, right?
Servers found for you.
Back up for me now.
Dude, we were sitting in those queues like forever yesterday.
It was brutal.
Servers are down here. Wait, what? Really? It says no realms available? I've been on. Weird.
Can't wait to play more of beta today. Never play at sea.
Else are going to enjoy the journey when this officially launches.
Oh yeah. Yeah, it's been it's been very solid. Very good.
Um, I should probably get my campfire buffs now that I think about it.
I should also probably fender up and clear my bags.
Does the progress carry over?
No, guys.
It's a beta.
The contrast looks great.
Yeah.
Don't forget your rat.
I actually don't have another rat on me, unfortunately.
How does name reservation work? I have no idea.
Did I remove fog? Uh, fog is on, off, on, off. I have it on right now.
I'm moon glow nerf I haven't looked at that yet
If there was a time to try a shaman it would be sometime between now and forever
True that is the time
Guys we briefly they briefly talked about oh, I do have another rep familiar. You're right. Let me get this out
They briefly talked about this in one of the dev panels
I think it was during the dev panel yesterday, the Q&A rather, and one of the things they
said and a lot of you guys saw this but some of you guys might have missed it so I'll repeat
it is that they're going incredibly aggressive on banning gold buyers.
Of course they're going to continue to ban bots but they're going to hit it from both
ends now.
Do not buy gold or you get perma, guys, like, don't do it, don't do it, not worth your 20
year account, don't do it.
I actually talked to Soda and Soda was like, you know, Soda's like a gold buyer here and
there and he said, one of the reasons he bought gold is there was no like repercussions
and if he could ever have the chance to lose his 20 year account, like he would never
do it and this is Soda saying that so hopefully people feel that way, like, yeah, like
don't, don't do that, like that's, that would suck.
I would so.
Have you seen the thing system?
Yeah, ban the sellers?
Well, of course, yeah, banning the sellers,
but hitting it from both ends, I think it's really smart.
This is something I've been asking for
for a really long time now.
You have a rat following you?
Yeah, it's my familiar.
Hey, what did I say?
Everyone said, huh?
You know what I said.
Both ends, yeah, like the buyer end and the seller end, like I feel like one of the reasons
people didn't buy as much gold back in the day, of course it always existed, but people
didn't buy as much gold back in the day because you knew you were going to get banned if
you got caught and you don't want to restart from level one, right?
I mean, I remember as a kid like wanting to buy gold and then thinking, ah crap,
like I really don't want to get banned.
I have a lot of prog here man, you know
you know.
Auction house is found but I haven't even seen the auction house yet at all.
Yeah, I'll make a guild today
Auction house changed are awesome. So I haven't looked at the auction house, but it isn't essentially the retail auction house
Because I
Love the read yeah, it is I love the retail auction house men retail auction house is
crap
The retail auction house just is so good. It actually just is so good.
No, no, that's probably peak is gilded. We're gonna not do that.
bro how are you on servers are up for me I don't know I don't know if I did
anything what's the difference that makes it good you kind of seen the triad
but basically it does what all the add-ons do but with no lag and faster and
smoother and better joey thanks the prom
Am I doing a second mage right now?
Uh, no.
Or, yeah, this is actually my third character.
I have a bunch of level 20s already, guys.
I'm just, uh, obviously, I'm a beta tester, so what I'm doing is logging in and testing
things on the beta, so that's what's happening, all right?
What's the key bind and toggle fog? It's a console command someone in the chat probably
has it. Trevor Holt? Thanks for the summon. Can you test if you can have more than 100
I would probably need help with that test specifically. Yeah
Hull of Thanes dungeon today, yo, I'm down is that Stormwind or Iron Forge? I'd be super down check that
Yo, Rick. Thanks for the prompt
Iron Forge level 15 ish. Alright, let's send that I can't wait that'll be the goal
You can get carried at level 13, no, we're not gonna carry through man. We're gonna pull our own weight
Have I tried controller yet? No, I'm more of a keyboard gamer. Will there be giveaways today? Yes.
So it says XP should be nerfed. I don't think it's faster than normal, but I could be wrong.
I'd have to look at like my slash played compared to a normal playthrough. I think that general
idea is you should still take a similar amount of time but it feel it feels about the same
but I could be totally wrong here.
I like your pet rat, I thought you liked it man.
And peace sentence about the same, it feels, it feels about the same, yeah.
I thought that was a fiery weapon for a sec but it's a shaman with what, flametongue?
Oh it's something that I haven't heard many people talk about if any, if anyone talk
about this is that you can see other players buffs now. I believe enemy buffs as well.
Like, ah crap this guy's not want not gonna want to duel me like if you duel someone in the in
classic era the way it works is mages had a spell called detect magic. To my knowledge
Detect Magic is actually gone, okay?
So Detect Magic doesn't exist anymore because it's baseline default in the game.
I haven't heard anyone talk about this.
I think overall it's a win.
It is a big design decision though.
It's a mage nerf, yeah.
Pick out of interest drop your shadows to lower real quick
Wait like that shadow quality to low
I don't do the shadows look so good they just look amazing
Yeah, yeah, I mean bro that game like every like I actually am kind of sad because
I got off last night right when the sun was going down in game and IRL
Like it's just so so beautiful, man
Okay, I'll just keep moving here I
Got the sunrise this morning. It was awesome. I logged in but I think I kind of missed sunrise
Yeah, let's do some more quests and I want to hit 15 and hit up that new dungeon ASAP
Those are needs out of photo mode wait, what's wrong with like alt Z and just like taking a photo
What is the issue reporter just for betamin
Check out this drop holy crap
Slice open and gather target copper tin, silver, iron, feign, does not require mining.
Whoa, that's super cool.
Can't hide your character, can't detach your camera, can't pose.
Poof!
The UI I'm using is an add-on. I wish this was baseline.
I really think they should make this baseline, but...
I'm using an add-on, because it's what we gotta do.
So my FPS being 80 still feels a little weird.
Like when I play classic while we have like 800 FPS when I play retail
I think we like at least a couple hundred three or four hundred maybe
I don't know why my FPS is so low. Something must be going on
Loadstone are Rex a loadstone that allows for 12 attack power sick when you copper bars for that though
Relog yeah, I have
Yeah, optimization must not be fully in how's the power creep like it feels okay right now
I'm a little concerned about power creep
We'll see how they handle it, but yeah, I definitely don't want things feeling like
Like like season of discovery where you're hitting like retail like numbers or like wrath like numbers right away and it's just like
like the numbers get bigger and bigger like that would be kind of troll the mob
seem easy they feel about the same to me
range of the pack koto interesting I haven't seen that
you got level 18 free gold to your name and some blues wow nice
I'll cover over this and it'll stop sparkling cool got it thanks man
minor ice elementals that's this is definitely new
Definitely, right? I'm not like yesterday. I was like that's new and people were like nah, bro. You're wrong like that's definitely got to be new
Ice elementals, so this is probably like a nod I like the elementals from the Skyborne because like they added shamans in this area
Too which is a not like the shamans on Alliance
This is probably a nod like the elementals with the Skyborne
There's a few key things I appreciate from the city and the pious.
I heard this open to any warm soul.
I simply need more firewood.
Okay.
Mostly dry firewood.
Try to find this.
Huh, that's pretty cool.
Whatever.
I think like so far the stuff they've added feels very classic like which is nice, right?
not like telling too big of stories too fast where it feels completely out of
place. Mostly dry firewood. Where the heck is that? Perfect. Yeah, I got it.
What do you think about end game possibilities in the future?
I'm worried it's going to be like Cata in one year where people get bored because there's
not enough to do and you'll hit max level too fast because you are already there.
I'm not concerned with that as much.
With every new expansion, anyone greater than 49 is scaled down to 50, then you get
to use your old gear again at 60 so it's not wasted.
Awful idea.
No, I don't like that at all.
Yeah, thanks for the sub I I don't like scaling levels down awful idea that that just feels really weird
But to answer your question
Do I think people are gonna get bored?
Because there's nothing to do at max
Part of
Yes, and no yes and no so at level 60 eventually will come a raid log
Status once you have your best since luck year you're kind of log out in a raid every week, right?
That is World of Warcraft period like that. That like that is just how that works
Right even with retail with all of these new features and things to do people still do that, right?
So so yeah, there's no there's no avoiding that. There's no getting away getting away from that. What's different though?
Why am I not concerned?
Because classic wow actually takes weeks or months to hit max level
So you could start an alt and have fun for literal months whereas on kata you could hit max level and like
A week or whatever on retail you can hit max level in like a day or whatever so the fact that you could
Do it so quickly
Kind of means that you can get to raid log quickly whereas in this game you can get to raid log being level 11 by the way
You can get there, but it's gonna take you a very long time to get there, and that's why I'm not concerned
That's why classic in general does pretty well. It's gonna take you weeks or months to hit raid log
And then if you want to do it again, it'll take you weeks or months to hit it again
Does that make sense?
But once you get to raid log, you're at raid log, and that's part of the game, you know
Squish, thanks for the prime, yeet, thanks for the prime, urt, thanks for the prom, wizard, thanks for the prom
Okay, so I'm still looking for firewood
There's some firewood
Found it over here cool good
This guy's taking firewood. Oh, no, he's not oh yes. He is I know he's not this guy's taking it
Cool gotta do them then
You take my wood we got a full send then
Do canceled you know, I'd be afraid to I'm looking pretty strong
One girl army, thanks for the sub. Sad thanks to the two one. Can she thanks to the pro?
I might be almost time for some more key giveaways.
Might be about that time.
Might be about that time.
Might be about that time.
Might be about that time.
Hello, Zaru.
There is a bug over an oversight
from the WWF developers for Comprehend's scroll.
The only way to comprehend the scroll
You can do it through a normal trade, but you can't do it through and that might be intended. No
That might be intended
Okay guys, we're gonna do a quick giveaway
The giveaway will be for
The forever collection $80 value it includes the beta the sky born epic pack and reforge three forsaken kingdom
We're doing the giveaway on twitch only since I can't find a way to message
On YouTube, so if you're a YouTube viewer you have to come to twitch for the giveaway
Okay, forever hype nine is how you're gonna join this giveaway forever forever hype nine all caps no space
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We'll give it a few minutes and then roll our winner
Good luck have fun guys
Okay, we any 14 mostly try firewood I have zero
Saw one but someone else got it
This spawn rate might be insanely low. I kind of want to do it because it's a new quest, but like wow
Zero out of 14 brother
That's crazy this is a new quest yeah, so that that that's actually like good that you ask that right like it's
It should feel that way it should be like wait was this a new one or not
But, you know, here it is.
Here's one.
This is my first dry firewood we've seen.
But yeah, I like that conversation, right?
Is this a new quest or is this a,
is this something that's always been here?
I actually already messed up like multiple times
where I was like, oh, this is new.
And then chat was like, no, no, it's not.
Sorry, you're a noob, you know?
Okay, cool.
Mostly dry firewood.
Like as long as they add stuff that looks like it could have always been there. I'm really happy
Once they add stuff that just feels like incredibly out of place. It's like, uh, bro
Yeah, this quest might be brutal to actually try to do but since it's a new one
I think I want to try to see if there's a follow-up or anything like that since I'm a beta tester
So it had an issue with zero drops and he fixed it by just re-logging.
Oh really?
Okay.
I don't think they drop.
You pick them up, by the way.
I'm gonna re-log anyway, might as well.
Every quest is the same.
Well, welcome to World of Warcraft.
Okay, we'll let the giveaway go for another second year and we'll roll our winner.
log out please people have issues hopefully we're not screwed here
oh that's a little re-log don't have to did much yeah dude yesterday we had a
layer with like literal zero people on it too is it was wild there's a small
update I didn't see that one yeah the respawn rate on these logs seems like a
little on the low end I might just grind these ice elementals while we're all
waiting for them. Almost looks like you're playing Aera exactly as it should.
I appreciate it. True.
Yo, I appreciate you a lot. Thank you very much.
a lot. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay, so there was a respawn over here. Alright.
We'll go ahead and roll this ninth giveaway out very soon. Forever hype nine in the chat
if you want to join and then after I roll it guys you can stop spamming by the
way because then then the giveaway will be will be over and then there's no
reason to spam if the giveaway is over okay
All right, we'll roll the winner in 5, 4, 3, forever hype 9 in the chat guys.
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I actually have a friend who is like, bro, you need to increase your bot protection.
Um, OMG, OMG, thank you.
This guy seems legit.
I feel like a bot wouldn't say OMG, OMG.
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I feel like this guy's definitely not a bot.
I feel like a bot wouldn't say OMG, OMG.
Joffrey, congratulations, Braille.
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Okay, I'm gonna send you over the code right now, enjoy.
We'll do more code giveaways throughout the day.
So if you didn't win,
There's more chances to win.
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I send you the code right there.
Sick.
Okay, now you guys can stop spamming because the giveaway is over officially, okay?
I'll let you know when to spam again though, so don't worry.
question mark uh i mean i'm down brice versus mage this might be rough here
yeah this might be very rough oh wow you can see how much the shield absorbs now too
Oh, wow, we took him out. There we go. We're blasting heavily. Take it.
Hey, man. Hope you're doing well. Do I have horrible latency when I'm in North America?
In disconnecting every five minutes, latency is constantly at 600 plus and can't interact
with anything.
Not really a bug, but finding warmth, quest in Dunmero has a very slow respawn rate on
dry firewood.
Like, they need to increase that, right?
Dungeon experience needs a nerf?
Okay, guys, look, so let me just explain dungeon experience real quick for people that
missed some of the stuff.
They want to incentivize one dungeon run by giving you a ton of experience.
But they want to give you all of that experience through quests.
But they want to not incentivize running the same dungeon over and over.
Okay.
Hardcore won't be on launch, we'll do it later.
So if you just do one dungeon it should be insane XP, but after that it should be
like very average.
It's too much XP from Dungeon Queue.
Like, if it's good XP just doing them over and over,
that's a problem.
That's a problem.
This gives 10K XP now?
Yeah, exactly.
If it's your quest, that's good, in general.
Why do I have horrible latency when I'm in NA?
I don't know, must be some setting.
Like I haven't had any lag.
Once I'm in it's been great, but getting in was rough.
What about if people want to level in Dungeon instead of questing?
You still can.
They're not restricting that.
So that's cool.
100% still can.
Yo yo yo!
Oh my gosh, yo it says, stay in school bro!
Thanks for the prom bro.
Saw your short on weapons for cash just being more impactful.
Any idea if they did anything for Feral?
No idea about that. That is a great question though. Thanks for the $10 super chat.
What's the point of Frostfire Bolt? Double dipping between Frost and Fire Talons like Ice Shards and Ignite?
I believe it would be the main purpose for it.
But we'll theory craft more and more as we at higher level.
Confirms are you ignores YouTube true on broken 6174 true?
Happy to help to be here. Yeah, what I've known
Wait no more you the one that built the add-on
Why is his name blue is he one of my friends
I'm no I this guy's name is blue
recent allies go blue. Interesting. I haven't like grouped with him, I don't think. Maybe
I did and I didn't even know
I
All right, we'll be doing more beta key giveaways as the day goes on, yeah.
We're not doing one right now though. I'll tell you. I'll tell you when we start it
Thoughts on the 1% haste ratio on the new rays. I don't know. I feel like the new ratios aren't as good as the rest, but
Maybe that's fine. We'll see
Is there any reason to choose classic over forever?
If you really want the game how it was, I guess.
But I think we're...
I don't know. I might not personally play classic well.
I actually hope I don't.
I want this game to be good enough to where this just takes over and is just insane but...
Yeah, if you want the game exactly how it was,
You know pure nostalgia here like I want to just go back and play normal
It's cool that it's still there, but I think this will probably take over for for a long time. I
Can already tell we're gonna play normal classic hardcore again it really you're the first person I've heard say that I hope not
He's a he's off what I was thinking about maining a maze
But got confused by lots of people saying they are simple boring and stuff. Yeah
So mage is my main to I
Think they like objectively got some of the least changes out of any class in forever
So they'll yeah, they're one or two buttons a lot of the time, but
Mage is still my main class and I love it. So like I'll probably mean it anyway
You know maybe they'll add some more stuff maybe some of the rotations are more complex than what they've seen based on different items or
boss mechanics or
Some stuff. It's like hard to tell right now. So I don't know I'll probably play it anyway
We'll see though if I'm really not liking major play warrior and warriors look awesome
And if I'm really not liking that I'll play a Pali because Pali is like incredible
So I'll probably stick with major anyway because you know, it's what I've always played
Boss mechanics, yeah, so what I mean by that is like amp, he said like, oh, maybe there's
a boss with a lot of AOE and majors will have to like blink over and frost Nova flame strike
tonic cold and like that is not as more buns not every boss is patchwork right some bosses
like in BWL like you might have to actual AOE like actually AOE and stuff like that.
So we'll see.
What do you think is the least played in popular class?
I have no idea, man.
I have no idea.
He was saying Druid.
My pee.
might be uh
Yo, no that doesn't look like a bug to me that looks very intended now that you say that that not mean that
Yeah
You know honestly, I'm like an arcane now
Yeah, I'm really like arcane looks kind of nice. I actually you know
Kind of have been a long time arcane mage guy now that you say that too
Okay, I will send that over.
Yeah, the shaman wants to duel I just use my Eureka talent though
the arcane missile bug didn't help me as much as I thought it was crazy what the heck man
needs to be buggy even more um my cross the $50 donation from the first she made video
what's up welcome in thanks for the big support man okay thanks for the gifted greener
I think so far. If you're a back-ruling archimage, yeah, seriously. Kind of disgusting.
For whole.
Do I roll Priest or lock? Zah must decide.
They both look sick. I don't even know if I could. Well, what's this over here?
I'm going to go check it out.
Leveling looks too easy so far. It feels about the same to me so far.
We'll see though. I'm worried about scaling. Oh.
Take a boss up here. Maybe the follow-up quest has me kill this guy.
Bruh.
Bruh.
Bruh.
Remember, Zaryu is really good at the game, so it's gonna look easier than it really is.
True.
True.
Very, very, very, very, very good to keep that in mind.
That's- that is exactly right.
That's right.
Yo, typical essential problem, man.
Are we liking the first aid changes? They seem cool so far, but I haven't messed with it like that much.
The new water graphics look cool. They look amazing, yeah.
Kill Avalon, retrieve its core. Sick. We know where that is, it's over here.
Seems about the same. Might have some differences.
I
Love the classic textures with a modern environment. Yeah, they had the class you I toggle yet. No, I'm using an add-on
It's default in the game now you can turn it off if you want though, which is nice
Mobs are too easy
Keep in mind that was a level 7 mob. I'm level 11. I think we can kind of just slam right
Magus, thanks for the prom, Rock, thanks for the prom, Big, thanks for the prom, Train,
thanks for the prom, Niko, thanks for the prom, thanks guys.
Hey man, thanks for the prom, you don't like your character portrait more central?
I've always played with it here, I don't know, I'm just used to it man.
Hammer's Rifle. So this is like a new quest too, right?
I actually haven't done Nome Starting Zone all that much. I've probably done it like...
I don't know, probably at least five or ten times, but not like human, like where I've done
like 30. Like 50.
Yeah, you can put Sharpen.
You can make the game like sharper with this, but I don't
like it. It looks like you're watching a hurricane video, which is like kind of cool.
Like everything is super sharp.
But I swear, I just like don't actually like that.
Kind of like it like that.
I had to make a Twitch account so I could get into the giveaways coming from YouTube.
Yeah, once again, sorry to the YouTubers that I can't do the giveaway on YouTube, but yeah,
like I said, if someone wins over on YouTube, there's no way for me to message them their
code.
Whereas on Twitch, I can send you a DM.
Boom.
Give you the code, easy done.
Whereas over on YouTube, there's no way to do that.
So it just gets really annoying.
They giveaways work for Europe?
That's actually a good question.
Is anyone from EU 1?
One of them?
I actually don't know.
I would assume, but maybe they're NA only.
They should work.
Try me.
Yeah, true.
The last guy was from was from France. Yeah
So I was told from Blizzard that
Nothing specific so hopefully it hopefully works fine
Sir Jerry thanks the prime
You know it up to Brazil what's going on
Guild vaults, I haven't seen if guild vaults are a thing.
By the way speaking of guilds, we'll need to make a guild.
Once we get into town we'll need to make a guild and hit the new dungeon.
Yo Frank thanks for the prime, Ochi thanks for the prime.
Why do you not have 1440 on Twitch?
Um, it's a lot of bugs with it.
I'll probably eventually go 1440 streaming but a lot of bugs are there right now.
banks are a thing confirmed. Oh cool man. Seems like a pretty darn good deal man. Definitely
to send that. Are you gonna run Dead Minds? Heck yeah I am. Dude I'm surprised the hole
you'll see the same people as your leveling thing is actually seeming true. Yeah. You
know I haven't really thought about that too much but now that you say it I have
been seeing a lot of the same names. That's actually really cool. So for those of you
guys that missed this, these are mega realms. There is so many people in these realms. There
is one beta for NAEU. I don't even know how many people are on here. It is massive. But
they made it so you run into the same people time and time again. It's actually true.
It's kind of cool.
Yo, push. Thanks for the front.
Hypothetically, would you have liked a WoW3?
Same slow-paced classic structure, but with eight new races
and eight new classes, a whole new world?
No. No.
I mean, okay look there there is potential there like that could be sick
But I would much much much much much much much rather have what we have
Like there is way more potential that that absolutely sucks eight new classes. Are you kidding me? Like no way
I don't do I'm scared of one new class, bro
Could that be fun? Yeah, it could be but like I would much rather have like classic plus they have much other
Theodoro, here's the run.
How do I turn quest helper on?
It's actually a bit confusing.
You want to open your map?
There's a little map filter and then quest objectives are here.
They should probably make this easier to find.
Let's take turn on.
Hey, Zaki, thanks for the prompt.
Quest helper is forever's biggest mistake.
I actually disagree.
I think the biggest mistake is the UI.
The quest helper you can turn on or off, and everyone downloaded Questy anyway, so whatever.
I don't think it's completely fine actually.
Yeah, like I keep running past the same guy, Manthee's Lyft.
I've seen this guy like eight times.
I need to smelt my ore when I'm back when I'm back in town here.
This is better since Questy shows the literal spawn points. True, this gives you more of
like a general idea. Yeah, that's actually true. Alliance.
I think I'm going no mage, man. Alliance.
I hid my last name.
What do you think will be the best DPS on Alliance?
Guys, please. Guys, please do not ask me this.
Guys, please do not ask what is going to be the most DPS.
Guys, we've been down this road. Let's not do this.
Let's not do this.
These tier list and these out here wanting the min max and like do that like one more DPS than dude. Who cares?
Is it this is a chance to redo
Everything that we've done. We don't we don't need to play is classic. Wow it the content's gonna be easy
We're all gonna clear it right. We're all gonna we're all gonna end up in that same spot
Like we do not need to min max for four percent more GPS. It doesn't matter
Play what looks fun, right?
Okay, let's go over here, do that, do that.
So, over here, we have two quests in Iron Forge, I think I want to get like a little higher
level first.
I'll go to the Quarry and do those quests.
I think there's a vendor there.
I don't know if I can smell it though.
I don't know if there's a forge over here, I don't think there is.
to enjoy the game and not worry about min-maxing the fun out of it if you're worried about
datamines and spoilers don't go looking for them we get a fresh start enjoy it yeah that's kind
of what i'm saying then like we actually have a fresh start for once like that is sick that is sick
Hardcore mode is up on the beta maybe it is I don't know
People say that mage stinks do you concur? It's not that mage stinks they just got like I
I think they have three new spells right like they just got like less than everyone else
But mages were already in a really good spot. So I get it. I
Don't know I still like mages. I
Still really like mages. I just think like
They could they could probably use a little more love somewhere. I honestly I've been trying to think myself
What they should do it's it's a hard question to answer really because obviously you don't want them
Just copy-pasting from other expansions
You don't want them being like OP, you know, you want them feeling good and you know right now they feel good
I think my big problem is
You know how like on classic era warlocks are really fun when you level but at max level they're one button
You guys all anyone who plays a lock might understand what I'm saying. They're fun to level but at max level they're one button
That's kind of the problem. I'm having with mage right now
They're gonna be fun to level but at max level it's gonna be kind of like a one-button thing in a raid
Whereas a lot of other classes aren't that way.
So that's the problem I'm trying to solve right now.
I'm trying to figure out what to actually do.
Lots of classes are.
No mages, mages are the lowest out of any in the game currently.
That's why I was trying to like, what can we do to bring it up to all the other classes,
right?
Just in terms of rotation at end game.
Not with leveling, not in dungeons, not in PvP, but rotation at end game.
So it doesn't turn into this Destralock situation where you just hit one thing.
How do you get over there?
Maybe it's around this way.
So this is definitely a new quest too.
I know because I don't remember ever trying to get up to this.
Yeah, it's gotta be this way.
Yeah, it's gotta be this way.
I love this man.
I just love it.
Do I fog off? I think I have fog on right now. Here's the same guy again, Manti's. Speak
with Earthseer Fars and ask him to lend you his Farsight. Oh cool! Or how sick is that
loading screen too. Where is this? It's like Ten Dark Iron Spies. So it's like
Beyond the valley sick so that's new too. That's so rad
You play mage yeah, that was a new quest it's nuts bra
Okay, so let's sell everything here.
Uh, there's no force here, is there?
There's a bonfire.
Okay, so let's interact with this.
So if I do slash sit, oh, a bonfire server and a campfire maybe.
Yeah, I think it is because I'm not getting that buff.
And please slash sit.
Um.
Hall of Fame soon.
That's lame.
Yeah, I definitely think this one should work.
fire only it seems not bonfire probably a different type of fire I think that one
should work though that's a little weird I didn't make your quest tracker look
like that I don't think I did anything
there's a forge down here oh is there is this a forge oh yeah you might be right
you made it transparent oh it must be my classic add-on thing
Aim shot is baseline now? Yeah, that's actually pretty rad.
Should you do a death counter? So when I randomly pop in, it'll help me learn if fate has been
two challenging or just right guys I'm not gonna die on the beta zero deaths we're
not gonna die all right you don't we don't need a dev counter it's just gonna
be a waste of space on the screen it's just gonna say dead zero for like three
weeks
Okay, so that's not a forge either.
I got a drowned a few times, but that's soda.
100,000 people saw you die at the LISKON.
That actually was quite the experience.
I haven't really talked about that, but there was like just the the most massive crowd you've ever seen, and they all were just pointing and laughing at me.
It was nuts.
That was actually crazy.
Back then it was here.
I'm sure it will happen, hardcore will happen, and yeah, I'll probably be hosting events.
That's absolutely right.
What am I most excited for?
I'm excited for a version of Classic Wild that's going to get continual updates, then
it's not going to end.
Because we've never had that before and it's pretty sweet
Wait until you make a human and go into the jasper load mine ha ha ha death
Yeah, I'm gonna need to yeah, maybe I'll do a human warrior next once this guy's level 20
Someone said there's a forge up here. Am I blind?
I don't see a forge.
Aldrin.
Behind me. Yeah, I know I'm getting trolled for sure, right? Definitely getting trolled here.
This looks like TBC difficulty not classic it feels about the same so far but like I said
I would be really curious for someone to do a deep dive analysis on like okay
I'm level 10 on an era level 10 on forever and I'm hitting the same mob what am I
getting hit for how much life do I have what's the reach and look like how
much am I hitting them for like that would be an awesome video to look at like a deep dive
analysis on the actual difference but to me it feels almost identical from what I can tell
so far but that's just like a vibe you know I don't like I don't know I don't actually
I'm not bringing any facts with that like I like I said I would be cool to see someone
Don't jump into the numbers
yesterday you had your biggest dream ever i think you earned it bro all the all the content
is what the crowd wants you position yourself yeah thank you man i appreciate that man it's
been a it's been a wild ride getting here absolutely thanks for the thanks to support
dude is he playing classic forever yeah single name is just in the settings how do you load
all the classic stuff it's an add-on called classic ui forever iron four and
John Dungeon today yeah very soon we'll do that and then deadmines after
probably
these are sleeping on fire talents I've done a deep dive on fire it's on my
YouTube if you missed it who is my longest follower it's a guy named oh oh
frissy oh oh he's been following since October 2012 so we're coming up on
their 12 year anniversary on stream 14 year anniversary on stream so we've
we've been at it for 14 years guys
Definitely need stacking nameplates here.
Uh, Focus Polly like just didn't work or something.
Uh-oh.
Um, yeah, one sec guys, my macro for focus poly must not be working or targeting close
focus.
Maybe that syntax doesn't work.
I'll change it to add focus.
Okay.
Yeah, I think that's one hellstone.
Yes, sure
See if this works now
Cool, should be working now
All of things is your first dungeon on Allah
I think it's an iron forge people are saying I need like level 15 for it though some level 11 right now
I'm gonna I'm gonna ding up a little higher
It's fire mage more complex now
It's about the same you have hot streak so you'll do up some hardcast pyros
You'll still be putting scorch up. There's to be fireball for your filler and you'll still fire blast. It's about the same though
There's hardcast pyros on the proc will be the big difference
Pika did it at 13. Like I said guys, I don't want to get carried through it, not to call
anyone out specifically. I want to actually do the dungeon. So many new quests, yeah.
The new dungeon is incredible, it's actually no spoilers man, I'm gonna see it here in a sec.
I can't wait to experience this thing.
Been offline 48 hours to work, how is it? They delivered man. They delivered.
Oh my, thanks for the 2-1.
Fog though?
Yeah, fog looking nice.
Am I going to play Transmog on or off?
Definitely off.
100% off.
I love the clown suits.
service her up yeah does Eureka take a gcd no I don't think so
double check right now though yeah no gcd
Hey, it's the same guy, Manti's still gaming out here.
Have I died yet? Nah
Yep
Does the world feel dangerous? Yeah, it does it does
There's been multiple moments where if I wasn't completely locked in and dialed, then I would
have died, right?
There's been multiple moments where if I wasn't like, you know, 20 plus rank, like I'm just,
like I probably would have died.
But calling back on all the experience over the years and years and years and years
of farming noobs and grinding, we were able to live.
up on 13 years following incredible journey now it's been you know problem
things that you want seven
well it should be required for dual some pvp I don't think anyone knows yet
there might be a new meta game right like maybe tailoring for mage is now
better who knows but whatever. Wimble, thanks to the prom. Arcane Elixir, good luck king.
Put some elixirs on, good coms. Yeah, thank you brother.
There's a chest here somewhere says the dwarf
New freedom from escape artists is gonna be OP it's so good I actually can't believe
about good it is, man. Skyborne's zone is sick. Definitely will try it at some point, yeah.
I'm gonna test Frostburst on Mage. I've already played all the specs a little bit, and I have
like analysis on my YouTube channel. The TLDR is like, they're a bit bland and a bit
boring, but like I kind of get it, you know? They don't seem as fun as like a Paladin,
right, or like a Warrior, or like a Rogue, or like a Hunterlocked Priest or Shaman,
are truid, but you're a mage, you know,
and you have different tools, you have CC,
you have AOEs, so maybe that's how it's supposed to go.
I feel like the game is faster than classic, not that I can tell or at least if it is it
feels not super noticeable. Arcane might be, yeah, just depends how things are tuned. Depends,
yeah, just depends how things are tuned at the end of the day. So we'll see.
Polly, Polly the Super Chat saying, uh, yeah, thanks for the sub.
I'm a retired police officer who was shot in 19 during four months recovering at home.
Wow.
Funds, are you benched to stream as dramatic as it sounds?
Give me a distraction.
I needed.
Yo, Paulie, Paul, that's what's up.
Send me some love.
I'm glad I could somehow be that distraction when you needed it the most.
I've used streams in that same way before, so that's crazy.
Glad you made it through, man.
Thanks to the member Reigns, thanks to the Prime. Beckman, Knee, Spuddy, and Anon, thanks to the subs guys.
Bags are getting quite full there, fellow. True. Let's get out of here and fender up.
Yeah, it's feeling very, very, very prime, man.
Do I like combined bag you can turn it on or off? So yeah, I have it on I actually like it
But you can go back to bags like that too doesn't matter
Do you think that a grinding nurse will be enough to stop it
I
Don't know
We'll see I think there might still be ways to a we grind on a mage
But it's not just going to be like AFK Blizzard simulator. It's more going to be like
Kona cold flame strike
Blizzard Frost Nova's like a little more engaging which to be honest if anything. I like that it might just be
Harder to a week right now might not just be like AFK and Blizzard
This UI I don't have any noticeable bugs. Yeah, I mean
Yeah, like it's it's janky right now. Yeah, I'm sure like with time it'll get better
What's an earth with blizzard it doesn't slow nearly as much as before
Yeah, I think level 12
And I think it only hits four targets with max damage if I'm not mistaken
So, yeah, it's amazing, you know, thanks for the sub.
People are saying Kona cold is also nerfed.
I never saw that.
Is that true?
I thought Kona cold was also like a big slow still.
What's the slow on Kona cold?
Now it's a 40% instead of 50.
Hmm, mage is where nerfed.
Yeah like I said guys, we'll see.
Of course I'm a mage main.
I want mages to feel good.
I don't want them to OP OP, but I want them to feel good.
And yeah, we'll see, we'll see what happens.
I need to get back to my mage trainer, but I kinda wanna do this quest first.
Oh wait, is that?
Yeah, let's eat this real quick.
Thoughts on Power Creep?
I'm a little concerned, but we'll see how they handle it.
Like they're definitely aware of it, you know?
We've talked to them about, like we definitely don't want the game feeling like it's
getting more and more power creep but yeah we'll see.
Stuff seems pretty strong early on so.
Man, focus target is actually just amazing.
I've got to delete something here.
Wait, there's some vendor in this camp, I'm going to go vendor.
Do I think Blizzard has added enough features to keep up with Turtle while in Ascension,
like to have those players interested?
I think so.
I don't want to speak for them, but for any turtle wow Andes in here, or ascension Andes,
I'm actually curious.
How do you guys feel?
I've never played, so I don't know, but I think, hopefully, this is very exciting.
Good, good, good, good, good, better, nah.
Not even close, very happy, very good, excited, nah.
So maybe like a bit split.
I never played turtle wow, but like people seem to absolutely love it.
I looked at Ascension, not gonna lie, I looked really awful, but turtle wow looked really
really cool.
So, if this can make some of you guys happy that I think that's rad, uh, stolen blasting
powder and dark iron spas do it.
my view on Hunters, you know I haven't played one yet but like after looking at the talents
I really think marksmanship is cool how you can play with lone wolf, I liked aim shot
baseline a lot, I think serve as a more melee focused spec now is really cool, yeah I think
Hunters overall look pretty cool, but like I said I haven't played one, what's my view
unlocks. Affliction looks amazing. Affliction looks so fun. Like I really want to try it.
Can you make a hotkey and macro guide at some point? Um, I could. The TLDR is like,
you bind keys to whatever they feel comfortable. The keys that you're hitting quickly need to be
on keys that you can hit quickly. Right? If you're not hitting a key very often,
You can put it on something that's harder to hit.
And with macros, you know, you don't need them early on in your journey,
but eventually they're going to be kind of obvious when you use them.
Well, maybe that's not true, but as you get better and as you play more,
you might be like, oh, I want to add a stop casting to this button
because it starts to mess me up if I don't have it.
So I think like over time, you can add them in.
There's some classes that need it more than others do.
Human head is still in there, right?
Is that the human head?
Is that a torn head?
It's gone. Is it actually? There's something like right there. I don't know what that is.
Why do I have bad FPS? I don't really know. I actually have kind of bad FPS as well. I
think the optimizations might just be pretty crappy right now. But like my FPS is a hundred.
Like I said, normally I'm classic while I play at like 800 or something. It's crazy.
So yeah, the FPS is just low.
I don't know if there's some type of memory leak or yeah, something.
Yeah, I re-log and like it helps a little and then kind of gets back to the same.
So hopefully that's fixed.
I don't think changing my render scale changed my FPS by anything meaningful.
Yeah, it feels about the same.
Dude, I actually love focus in classic.
Wow, my gosh.
I was really on the fence, but after just using it, like, I just think it's a great...
I can just play so much better with a focus target.
What is this focus you speak of?
What's a focus target?
What's a focus target?
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
So if you haven't played TBC, what a focus target is is you have your normal target.
It's right here.
You cast your spells and your normal target, right?
Focus target.
You set either with a macro or you can click set focus like this.
Okay.
Now you have two targets.
You can make a macro to hit your focus target instead of your normal one.
So what that looks like is, if I have aggro on this trug here, and he's attacking me,
but then I accidentally pull a second one, what I can do is sheep my focus target and
continue attacking my primary target without having to mouse over, without having to
targets right similarly if I want to like send a rank one frost bolt I could
make a focus rank one frost bolt so that's what focus target is it's been in
every version of the wow of wow except classic it's in TBC wrath catamom
you know etc but classics never had it until now so when you're in a
at Dungeon and they're like, okay, Mr. Maid, Sheep, Moon.
On the next poll, what you can do is just set Moon
to your focus target.
And you can just babysit this focus target.
So you can Sheep Moon like this, and you can just see
when is this Sheep gonna be expired?
While you're attacking your main target,
you can just keep an eye on your Moon.
You don't have to look at it,
like you can literally just see it right here.
All right, and then, oh, it's time to re-sheep it.
Cool, let me just re-sheep it.
Right, it's, I mean, focus target.
I mean, it's awesome.
What key bind?
I use shift plus the key, usually.
So polymorph, for example, is scroll down.
My focus polymorph is shift, scroll down, like that's generally what I use.
How do I zoom in and out?
I have a bound to arrow keys, but I usually just keep my zoom.
Like I don't really scroll in and out as I'm playing the game.
I like if I'm not here, I'm just here.
If I want to zoom out, I have a bound to my arrow keys, but I actually don't like
change it that much.
What's my key to set a focus? I use shift B. I just a random key bind. It's right here.
to be. You can put it to whatever you want, but whatever you're comfy with.
Where's the new UI? I downloaded an add-on to go back to the old UI, since I'm not like
like a big fan of the new UI personally.
Iron Spies, let's go this way.
So this is another new quest.
That's on faction restrictions for the PvP ruleset.
I actually like it.
It does kinda suck.
In the short term, if your faction's locked
and you can't play with your friends,
but in the long term it just makes PvP servers
feel so much better that I think it's like
necessary evil or at least something that sucks to give us something like like way
better in the long run something that sucks in the short term to give us something
way better in the long run which is like a server that actually feels somewhat
balanced and fun
So I'm playing to play Skyborn, maybe we'll see.
What spells do you use focus macros for?
I'll use one for Frostbolt, Polymorph, Counterspell.
I like at least those three.
I use one for Deep Freeze, but there's no Deep.
Frostbolt, Polymorph, Counterspell will be like three.
Are you leveling your second tune?
I mean, yeah, guys, obviously, my first level 20 is just sitting there.
It's kind of boring at level 20, so, of course, I'm leveling an alt.
Dark iron map. Cool.
Dude this is gonna be so fun on hardcore a whole new set of quests to try to solo on hardcore.
I love it.
Inv.
I actually don't even have that quest anyway.
20 years max right now, yeah.
I was skeptical in the new graphics with the retail client but dang this looks really good.
Yeah the graphics themselves look amazing.
It's just the retail UI.
The graphics themselves like the world looks like look bro. I love my low-poly but the world looks just absolutely cracked. I
Love the old models. Yes, Sam
Yeah, it's pinned pinned in the chat classic you I forever Adam
Thanks for the sub dude
I hate that they turn off rain. I got rain and snow yesterday, I think pretty sure
Meesey, thanks Lucid
It's not the same cast animations. You're right. It doesn't seem to be exactly the same, but it's like similar
Low latency mode, people are saying to disable this, huh?
Thanks for the wholesome stream, appreciate it.
Hey, I appreciate the support dude
It feels like folks are just looking for flaws. I mean, yeah, I mean in a sense, that's kind of what a beta is like
It's our first time
Hands-on playing the game trying to all I mean for some of us. Hmm. It's on the point the point is
is you're trying to figure out what's good and what isn't.
So I think a lot of people are saying it
through that lens, which is awesome.
I think the big difference is, and we touched on this yesterday,
is how you're saying it.
If it's techW, game is awful, dead in two weeks, lull,
it's like, bruh.
If it's, hey, I prefer this for x, y, c reasons.
And then hit the new dungeon can I do that new dungeon at level 13 and then after the new dungeon?
I'll head to like Westfall
West over there I can okay
So let me do like a couple more questing at like 13 ish
Then we'll make a group and iron forge and hit that it will take the tram over and send it heavily
The mage set looks terrible dude. I know I don't like it either
No!
Well, that's...
Na-na-na!
Yo, sorry, how do you hide last name?
It's just in the settings, guys.
Okay, we'll turn in these two quests,
go back to Keranos and smelt up and head up to Ironforge.
some of the last names are funny and clever yeah my last name I actually went
I went with, I'm not sure if I'm gonna show this.
I went with Prime.
So, um, yeah, no exact reason.
Let's see if we can turn these glasses over here.
Cool.
What can you do with Prime?
So that's a great question.
You can actually sub for free
to your favorite streamer once a month.
Oh, thanks for the Prime, man.
Appreciate that.
Yeah, it's actually crazy how it works.
It's a few Amazon Prime, you link your account up
and it's just like no more ads.
So it's kind of a no-brainer.
But people forget about it.
It's like right there, right in front of their faces,
but there's no auto-renew or anything.
You have to manually blue items.
Enter the Hall of Thanes beneath old Iron Forge.
Oh, this is beneath old Iron Forge?
With blues?
18 DPS3 ends.
It's prime for this.
Okay, I'm a little concerned these items are too strong.
18 deep.
Oh, that looks cool.
Okay, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do some Hall of Thanes.
Of course we're doing some Hall of Thanes.
Let me get a little bit more XP.
And then we're gonna build up a group for this thing.
Oh my gosh.
That looks incredible.
Guys, I'm level 12 and a half.
I don't know if that's high enough for this place.
Whoa.
How are you liking WoW forever?
I'm loving it, man.
I am loving it.
Um, I mean I could just grind like half a level 2.
Quick giveaway before the dungeon.
We definitely can do some more giveaways.
First thing you should hear in the background.
In an 8 Mage Passive, casting the same skill on Magic stacks above 25, 50, 7, 500 that
your next magic spell is free.
This could solve every speckrotation problem.
I don't know if that's interesting enough though is the problem.
Yeah, I'm on a PvP realm.
Casting seems faster, I think it's the exact same.
Low level cast are quite fast.
Yeah, we'll make a group in a second here. I might get closer to 13. So at least I dinged
13 in the dungeon towards the start. We'll put our struggle with buy-in into horizontal
progression during sawed as t-raids. Some people stopped just the items weren't
picking up upgrades. That's actually a good question. No one has actually
asked me that before. So everyone loves horizontal progression, but the reality
behind horizontal progression means that the next content is not going to give
you much better gear than the previous content. In other words, a whole new
raid is going to come out. And yeah, there's going to be reasons to do it.
Fun, new set bonuses, but the items themselves can't just keep getting stronger
forever. So you can't actually just make them that much better. Couple intellects here there,
couple spell damage sure, but like you have to keep it very minor. So that's actually a fair,
that's a fair question and a fair concern that not many people have talked about.
Wow too baby, it's here.
See what happens
Do you think they will make SD models for the new race?
Nah, doesn't seem like it. It would be cool if they did, but I don't think they're committing themselves to that
Plot, thanks for the prom, man Tom Tom, thanks for the prom
It's better than the vertical where you must always grind to stay current or you fall off
Well, that's the point. So horizontal progression as pros, but it also has negatives.
I like the negative, like I don't mind the negatives. I think the pros outweigh the negatives in other words.
But the negative of horizontal is like, yeah, when a new raid comes out, you're not just going to have a new tier of gear
that's just going to completely stomp all the other stuff, which will be new for WoW players, right?
As WoW players, I think we always expect the new tier to just be the best
and like give us crazy upgrades and this and that, but it won't necessarily be that way.
It's a new game style, people get used to it or go back to retail.
I actually kind of like that we have the optionality, right?
It's like do you want to continue to play this new style?
Because if not, there's other options out there for you.
Whereas in the past, when retail was the only game to play, you didn't have that choice.
It was like, do you like this or not?
Like should we maybe go back?
Whereas with this game, it's like, we actually have already tried it the other
way.
the other way that it already exists so go play that. It's like the ultimate like get
out of jail free card with any of this like content. It's like you don't like it or you
want it like this. Okay cool we have that option there for you already. We're doing
something new over here. I love that. I love that you can say that. Gives you a lot
of freedom to try stuff and or to not go the same path you already did. Choice
choice is good but too much choice is bad. I think it depends on what the choices are
about. Like we said yesterday, not all choice is the same. For example, the choice to turn
transmog on or off. Awesome. Right? You can opt in, opt out. That's a cool choice. The
choice for SDHT character models. Awesome. Opt in, opt out. Your choice. Cool. The
choice for flying mounts would not be a good one.
Have you ever thought about how neat it would be if a player's lane was determined
by an immutable characteristic, like seed,
that would ensure you start recognizing names
because the same set of players
will persistently be in the same layers.
Yeah, they already have that in the game,
it's active and it seems to be working, so solid.
Can you turn off Transmog?
Yes, it might be at an NPC who knows.
I'm just using an add-on for my frames.
Why are you killing green mobs?
I'm headed up to Ironforge to do the new Dungeon, but I want to get a little closer to 13 first.
I really dislike the stance of if you want to go over there because I don't want it here.
That's not the stance.
Just to be clear, people's desires and interest in WoW forever being what they're looking
for is just important as your perspective.
So I respectfully disagree and here's why.
If you try to make everyone happy and you try to make a game for everyone, you end
up with retail.
And that's not a bad thing.
That's just where you end up.
If you try to make every type of player satisfied, you end up with retail.
So having the option to say you can go play that because it already exists is a cool option.
It's like, because people love retail, there's a lot of people that love it and it's already
out there for you, right?
And it's not, oh, you can go play this and if you don't want what I like, then buzz
off.
That's not the stance.
is we've already tried it this other way so if you want it this other way it
already exists but for the rest of us that don't want it this way this game
was made for us which is not me so it's very different to your straw manning the
argument just to re reframe what I said there hopefully that makes sense
I've been hearing that scaling is off. Mobs aren't hitting hard enough. So yeah, I keep
kind of repeating the same thing, but like I would actually love for someone to play beta
and side by side play era. Take the same character through and get hit by a mob. What's it hit
for, you know, take the same character through at level 10 and get hit by that mob, but like,
I would love an in-depth comparison of what things are actually hitting you for and see.
Like I said, from a vibe perspective, it feels very similar, but like, I would be very curious for
like an actual analytical approach to, are you getting hit harder? Are you reach heading
faster are you doing more damage like like the actual numbers because it feels about the same
i tested my damage and put three points into something that should make my
instance three percent more damage and it's the same interesting pays are
just want to say your content has been my third place for the last seven months oh that's awesome
I've been going through the hardest time of my life and it's been a great escape from reality.
Thank you bro and keep up the awesome work.
Hey, thanks a little bit, dude, appreciate it.
Ampy was saying that it feels as if you see song between it being easier and it being stronger based on gear
Gear seems a lot more important now
Said that speed runners who she don't care for gear along the way, but now they will hmm. That's an interesting take
I mean, I would definitely trust Ampy. Ampy is literally Ampy. So
Yeah, so we're in Iron Forge looks about like the same Iron Force that we remember
I cannot wait for this game to be out like I actually just can't wait
Yeah, exactly like her escape does it yeah
Bro, look how many people are just swarming around Ironforge.
How cool is that?
What are your plans with League now that Forever's out?
You probably already answered this.
Oh my!
Is this where the new dungeon is one sec?
Um, yeah, League is on the back burner for now, but I'll probably revisit it in the future.
Like, I like the game. Whenever I want to scratch my PvP itch, you'll probably be there, but holy crap.
Is this, is this where you get to the new dungeon?
Dude.
I don't even, I'm not even making my dungeon gr- Oh dude!
Okay, so they open access to old Iron Forge.
Holy crap, I am nerding out.
Oh my gosh, that is sick. Are you kidding me?
So just like a quest dwarf up here, a Fatra Dunwall lorekeeper.
Oh, blue gear.
So this is for the dungeon, Hall of Thanes.
Strange noises have been heard coming from the deep within the vaults the spirits of the dead or light sleepers head down there
See what you can do about it for us
Oh
Cool, okay, so that dungeon is literally an old iron forge
Holy crap
Guys, this is sick big disconnect incoming on the streamer accounts. We should be fine. There should be no DC
Hopefully, hopefully, hope blizzard.
Tom Filch held an offhand five damage bro I'm a little nervous about power creep guys.
Five damage offhands insane but these gloves are also cracked.
Oh my gosh okay so we're gonna do Holo things but not this second we're gonna do
couple more like turn-ins and like clear the bags and go to the bank and stuff
like that maybe even make a quick guild if we can but a whole of things any
minute now holy crap
The music is sick, yeah.
How do you get a single name? I just turn it this way in the settings.
It's just un-visual.
Just re-logged hardcore is now an option. Good luck hardcore Andes.
You said search heirloom in the settings.
Yeah, I think that's carryover from retail, hopefully.
goodness gracious you said good luck and now all the bots are going off guys we are not
not doing a giveaway right now, bots.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
There we go.
Alright guys, I'm gonna smelt this copper.
Let's do another giveaway.
In a second here
Let's do a new keyword so all the pots already spamming and don't get in
New keyword that we're gonna do instead of forever hype nine will do
Forever ten okay forever ten new keyword good luck have fun guys forever ten type in the chat when we're back
we'll be giving away this the
Warcraft forever collection $80 value. Good luck. Have fun has paid access to
Be back one sec
.
and
Hazer, happy to see you nerd out about this game.
We are back, baby.
So, surely, no bots have entered the giveaway.
Um, zero bots, I'm sure, we're gonna do the giveaway, let's see what we have right now.
Sorry for the delay guys, I went out to go to the restroom and get some water,
and Shannon made some lunch. So I ate lunch, filled my water,
and went to the restroom, min-maxed my time, and now we're back.
I'll do a quick, uh, quick giveaway here guys, what you're
potentially winning here is the Warcraft Forever Collection, it's the Skyborne Epic
Thank you to Blizzard for giving me things to give away to you guys
You'll also get beta access and Warcraft 3 reforge for second kingdom. Good luck. Have fun. We're gonna roll in a minute here
three two one
Good luck
Followed a day ago
Okay, yo check M
89 14 thanks for the follow one day ago
Welcome in are you a real human or aren't you?
We'll see what's happening. We'll see what's happening
I'm here. I'm a lurker from YouTube. Oh, okay
So yeah, these are twitch only giveaways
So I told all the YouTube viewers like come over to twitch if you want to join so YouTube and these we had a youtuber win
Let's go. That's that makes sense that you followed one day ago now
Yeah, I believe this guy I feel like a pot wouldn't instantly say I'm a lurker on YouTube
I mean the box might be getting really good who knows yo congrats man
I'm gonna send you a DM right now with your code enjoy the game. We'll do more
Giveaways, so if you didn't win guys don't worry. We have more opportunities
She's Z. Alright check your DMs, bro. They're in there
Cool cool cool. Grats. Okay, so we got that let me think
Let's go to the bank and the mage trainer and then we're gonna make a whole of things roofing a little bit
Yeah, I'll be good
So now you guys can stop swimming forever hype 10 because technically the giveaway is over I
Love the utility of this new professions tab like having everything right here cooking first aid in she mining profs is so cool. I
Actually just love that it's gonna make sure
Grads to the YouTube lurker, there we go.
I hate the prof window.
Why?
Like, I don't like how it looks, right?
Like I like the classic UI, but like I love that it's all in one spot.
Like it's so cool.
Yes, I've been saying that since yesterday.
Yeah, it's really nice.
Like it almost makes me want to level cooking more because it's like right here with
the rest of my profs.
You know what I mean?
Is there summoning stones in Laof?
Uh, no summoning stones as far as I know.
Hi, how are you?
Hey, Bink.
Interesting.
So, Arcane Staff, Arcane Orb...
Bring her... Bring Bink her mage-tastic Gizmonider.
Gizmonider. Yeah, there we go.
Oh, it's outside of Nomurgon.
Okay, I'm not gonna go there right now. Let's get more food, dampen magic, fireball and slow fall.
Okay, we have no light feathers, we can't slow fall. Fireball rank three is pretty fire, no pun intended.
Um, new rank to conjure food, that's definitely something. Wait, this one actually. Yeah,
Yeah, I love the Paris. Thanks for subbing.
Did you say I have to Guild? Not yet. I actually might make a Guild like right now.
I'll make sure we're all good. If we are.
I think I Guild is 10 silver to set up if I'm not mistaken.
I'm on the PvP rule set.
Interesting to make the loadstone, you don't even need a, what's it called, anvil, but
like you just mind nothing weird.
campfire wow so campfires are going to be like way more necessary than normal here
requires a campfire nearby cool okay
I'm already level 30 now I'm level dude I'm level 12 20 is cap right now though
here's a weird question I know they're different types of games but regarding
gear it would be cool to do something like bigger bank sick you can create
whatever you want for your build and anyone can either bike ready-made or
I don't know if I would reinvent the game like that. My general stance whenever anyone says things like this like
What if you just do something crazy like reinvent the entire system? My general stance is
No
Wow is the most successful MMO of all time do not
Fundamentally change everything to where it's just like a whole new experience and a whole new game
Why because when something is working, you don't want to miss with the mess with the winning recipe
people already like it and enjoy it keep it as is of course we need tweaks right of course we need things we need improvements
Small improvements, but trying to like reinvent the wheel from something that's already proven to be the most successful MMO of all time
It's just silly. So follow the winning recipe
Since it's already winning and people love it and add more to it, but don't just change the whole recipe
So could that be cool? Yeah, maybe. Is it worth trying? Absolutely not.
That's my opinion. That's my take on it.
Okay, Ironforge Visitor Center. I feel like we should probably make a guild. People...
People have been asking. I think it's probably about that time
Think your mining bag. Oh, yeah good comes. I forgot about this little guy
It's just ten silver, right?
We won't be able to afford a tabard
What should the guild charter be called
What do we want
What do we want
What do we want?
Forever hype
Yeah, I don't know if that's available or not, I don't know whatever but I have a charter
This is just for the payday guys, I don't I don't care what the actual kill was called
I just want a place for people to hang out
General goods, I do need a bag but I only have four silver left if anyone wants to sign this an iron forge
I'll sign sick
I don't know why it's like, you can barely see anything here, but I'm just going to start
requesting signatures on all these random passerbys, Iceland, it's cool name.
I can't really tell how many more signatures we even need here.
I can sign, here we go.
You do not need signatures, what do you mean?
No signatures needed, just turn it in.
What?
I'll try.
What's on your side?
Get your feet on the ground!
Oh
From her heart okay, we're in we're in man. We're in I don't know if it's bugged or what but we don't need signatures
You guys are right. Not crap. Do not message me for a gilden bite message
Message frosty he's our only officer message frosty heels. Sorry, bro
Um
Yeah, let me let me see if I can get some other admins in here. Give me a sec
Yo, just made guild forever hype
Can we let me know names and I can get some officers in here
Gabby are you in here Gabby Gabby
Crap, why don't my mods we need mods?
we need mods for some officers oh
Guffles
Guffles, I see you in game
Okay, Guffles. I got you and I'll I'll make you an officer
Okay message Guffles gas or frosty heels
Lol ha ha ha wait how this new tab for whispers. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, can you go to the old guild tab?
Ah, is that better? Wait, no. How do you go to the old guild tab? I think there actually is a setting for that.
Maybe not J. Yeah, but like this is the new one.
What did I eat for lunch and some tuna?
Oh, I have another officer in here, cool mage kusan.
Okay, I'm gonna make a couple officers real quick just so we can get some invites.
The diagonal arrow, yeah it turns it to this.
This is still just like...
Yeah, we'll definitely get some more mods in here at some point.
Actually, you know what?
For right now, what I'm gonna do...
is just do this.
anyone can invite for now we'll fix this later once we get more people online but I yeah anyone
can invite just invite any just slash who invite anyone and then anyone can invite I have a
couple officers if we have some bad actors we can just kick them there we go just slash
Ashu forever hypen and then happens anyone
Yeah
Sky's the limit man. I have no idea
All right for whole
That was the quickest we ever came up with a guild name W chat. Nice work guys
Bigger banks are pretty cool. It's massive put these in the bank
Put that in the bank red. Yes, Roy off line here
All right
Let's do guys am I am I too low at level 12 for holofanes?
I'm a mage. I can sheep things no matter what level we are
Yes, it's brutal I just did it at 1212 is a bit low. I'm a mage though. I can sheep stuff right?
I can't remember if it was Harkor or Sod, but it took you like two hours with a room
full of people for a guild name last time.
Yeah, it usually does.
Yeah, it usually does.
Usually it takes me like two or three hours to like come up with a good guild name
Goodness gracious
Okay, okay, whatever it's good. All right
If you guys want to do Hall of Fame, send me a whisper with your level and speck
Goodness gracious goodness gracious
where do I even get there again sister oh my goodness
Sean thanks for the five gift to men
Um
Okay, I'm like 18 is probably too high
15 melee hunter. Let's get a melee hunter
15 DPS warrior
15 Druid tank orange parsing TBC player 16 are shaman
DPS 18 15 hunter we already have a hunter a priest healer
enhance shaman holy rat tank here 18 let's get a Pali tank I want a Pali tank
but 18 is too high I don't want it too easy let's go let's get a Pali tanks
just want to see how they are
16 prop Pali okay let's get a 16 prop Pali and then let's get so we have 16 15 16 12
I don't want it to be too easy let's go with we need a healer we need a healer let's go
to healer let's do not a priest let's do something besides a priest oh frosty wants
to come though. Frosty's been our guy since level 1. What level are you Frosty? Frosty's
the one that gave me the good layer yesterday. I feel like I owe it to this guy. Frosty's
level 14? Okay yeah Frosty get in here. Bro you helped me big time yesterday. Get
in here. He's on gnome anyway. Okay so we're gonna run gnome priest, human, Pali. Oh wise
Torrance here with some peace bloom. Good luck champion. Thank you, champion. Legend.
All right, we already have some food. All right, let's head over. Let's head over. Let's get down there.
Raid style party frames
Keybinds nameplates action bars interface raid frames. Oh, you know what it's under edit mode now, isn't it?
Great one second
Use raid style party frames. I love edit mode. It's so fun. Okay, great. Let's do it
Holy crap, is this super bugged or what? What the heck? Oh, no, it's good now. Okay, great
Wait, I like to be on bottom
Whoa.
Finally, I'll be on top.
Guys, I'm on top.
We're not going to bottom.
Bum bum bum.
Okay, we have a group for the brand new Hall of Thames
boys for hopping in.
You're just a trained soul talent.
Can you help make it known so we can get it reverted maybe?
I haven't seen that.
We have to confirm that that's what's happening.
All right. Oh, no, gosh.
That's my first death.
Are you kidding me? Fall down?
Bro.
How do you guys let that happen to me?
What is that?
That's how I die.
That is actually how we die.
Like, bro.
It wasn't even fall damage. It was the lava.
Yo guys, how many to res can you guys res me on the edge of the on the edge of the ledge
Yo kid yo frosty could you not heal me?
Can you not heal me like broke my healer like I don't know what he was doing frosty
I
Couldn't it's gracious
Guys I might have to run back this is crazy
Yeah, we'll put that one on the healer it's fine
Be back a sec
These are the moments that you realize you're getting old?
No.
Absolutely not.
Me slipping off is a bug that I need to report, that's where we're playing the beta.
We can talk about the in-game shop, where is it?
Blizzard has paid me for things, but they haven't paid me for that.
I mean, I've worked with Blizzard before.
Anyway, where's the in-game shop?
Let's take a look.
Is there a shop button somewhere?
Account collections?
Is it this?
Oh, it's not on the beta.
Okay.
Hopefully, there's nothing like, hopefully there's no shop at all.
Hopefully there's nothing with character power.
is the big one. Transmog in shop, yeah I'm going to turn Transmog off. People are saying
If I go into the lava as it goes, I actually can't get out but my frames are awful. I have like 30 FPS
Resurrect now here we go. Oh guys are back
Guys we made it to the dungeon actually I'm gonna re log right here just in case helps of the FPS
Hey, so our while veteran here if you jump into the lava you do die. Thanks. Thanks, man
His dungeon is very sauce on hardcore, but I can't wait to run this on hardcore
Okay, our re-logging does fix the memory leak.
Alright guys, here we are.
First look at HoloThings.
Let's go.
Alright.
We're in.
We get buffs up.
We need to squad to victory here.
Let's do it.
Level 13s.
I can handle that.
I'll be the CC bot.
Can we put in a campfire inside?
Can we campfire inside of here?
No, outside only.
Let's go get buffs.
might as well. Might as well go get buffs. It's outside only, okay. So, when you're outside
of a dungeon, it'll probably be this just like cool like meeting place to put down campfires,
hopefully. Wait, can we put a campfire right here? I would assume that, like, I would
have thought maybe there was one already down. Wait, that's to be outside of Iron
Forge like outside outside
Yeah, I'm in the middle of something I can't do that right now. We're in the middle of a dungeon guys. Let's get in here
Okay, let's send this
You don't camp inside of a building true
Actually true
Yeah, we're gonna wait for Chungus the main tank here
This guy's a veteran shield and a dwarven hashit let's see how Paladin does that's the main tank
This looks completely fine. Oh, these are undead targets. No sheeps by the way guys
Shadow we're paying up
Okay, we're doing our thing.
One button so far.
This is good.
Gotta get rid of this like new UI thing.
Spellable indicator disabled yet on
Showed that damage meter. Oh, I mean it looks right to me. I don't know what you guys are talking about
That damage meter looks very
Bugged
I could just turn it off, it looks that bugged. Weird.
Oh my gosh, when is the last time in World of Warcraft? I didn't know which way to go into Dungeon.
Well, I guess Retail. But you know what I mean.
This is sick, I guess we're going left.
Okay, this seems really easy so far.
People were saying that this was really hard and you guys were struggling.
Seems very chill.
Okay, there's a quest over here.
Yo, thanks brother.
Amp he wiped?
Alright guys, we have to not wipe, so we have that over Amp at least.
Our tank is level 16, hopefully that'll be good enough.
I'll be the slow boss. I'll keep slows on everything here
15 XP per mob is insane. Yeah, people were complaining the XP is actually too high. Well, I will see I
Think the reality is the quest give you a ton but outside of that you don't get much
The quest give you like two levels. Yeah
I like that change a lot actually.
You guys one sec, I'm just going to drink up to a full mana here.
Oh, oh, oh!
Great.
Yeah, we get EXP from the roasted borer.
Let's do it.
Quest, yeah, one sec. I'm just gonna get my food buff first and loot up.
Bruh!
Straight up low level blues. I hope those don't become a problem later on.
Dude, this place looks sick. Are you kidding me?
We straight up have an old Iron Forge dungeon. I love it.
problem how like power creep like getting too strong at low level means like a
high level everything you're like getting for billions
oh oh there's a boss fal trim and volmar all right lower experts who's
Who's Faltrim and Vlmar? Why do we care? What's going on?
Faltrim, give us the backstory. I want the dirty details, the specific details.
He's a dwarf.
No, I want more specific details than he's a dwarf.
Oh, we pulled, we pulled. Okay. Defilers, miscreants, leave displays.
Mind Blast someone kick that okay
Seems pretty chill. I mean we're all kind of bursting hard
My damage is a little lower, but that's just cuz I'm a low level so don't worry about it
Actually spear it I'll pass it. I'll pass it to someone who needs it more than me. It's fun
Feedback this boss was epic
I'm a beta tester
All right, mage deacres time yo, I don't have deacres at this level
No deacres at level 12 still locking in and
dialing on the smaller details
Yeah, actually plus spirit yeah
Dude, we need arcane explosion, we start pumping here man, heavily.
Report that the damage meter is bugged.
Um, yeah, we'll definitely keep an eye on it. I mean, clearly it's bugged right now.
Let's clear everything, boys. Yo, we can go down that way.
Or down that way. Or right this way. Or up that way.
There's a quest turning behind us too.
Can you place Skyborne? Yeah.
What's the mouse buff?
It's a rat, not a mouse. I get too intellect.
I have an add-on called Classic UI Forever.
Blizzard, it's not too late. You guys can still add it. I'm just saying, Blizzard.
It's not too late. There's a lot of people. I'm just saying.
I
There's a scroll yeah, I'll definitely do that
Elemental P god dude. Oh my goodness gracious
Oh, you're in a guild, bro.
What's this scroll do?
I'll show you in a second here.
Man, this is looking good.
Looks incredible, yeah.
Okay, sick.
Okay, so scrolls are random items that you get dropped.
A mage can decipher the scrolls.
So you have a Comprehend scroll,
which is kind of like from Saad.
You comprehend what it's saying
you like open the scroll like this and boop I got something called a scroll of
minor evocation that does exactly what you would think it would do oh someone
someone pulled guys someone pulled someone pulled
like this in so you can basically get different scrolls to help you mage
Pog is awful what what do you mean by like what do you mean by that?
Can I pop a dream there?
Oh my gosh, bro
Catch
Gosh
Yo, slacker is thanks for the gift of two women. Oh
Wow our tanks getting hit so hard
Yeah, we'll see what happens to mages. Oh my yo Chungus yo yo yo Nova Nova Nova you can type that out brother
Hide it out. I got novos. I got slows slows everywhere. Nova's everywhere
Frosty zoomed out. We got to start pulling slower or something
Okay, wow, this is this is okay. This is getting challenging here
I'm gonna smack that guy from behind. Yeah, we gotta we gotta wait for mana guys
Okay
All right, here we go
Nah, we don't need Polymorph here.
Nah we don't need it.
Pop a Nova here, big game.
Dude, if I had Arcane Explosion, it's over for these guys, but we're level 12 right
now.
Bro, my guy's getting owned.
Who's looting, dude?
Oh?
Oh
Okay
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
Sword ten damage two stamina one spirit. I
Can get sword training as a mage, right?
And Stormwind
And we're definitely gonna need that
It's ten silver. I think I have six silver, but I'll have enough by the end of this
No one else in the group needed it. I'm the only guy that needs it. All right
That's crazy
Okay, so something like this is really cool, but it's also a little concerning like I hope the power creep from this is gonna be okay
Right. I hope this isn't too much spell damage at too low of a level
Four of an heirlooms. Yeah, we'll lock in those in diala too
10 spell damage or level 10, uh 11, yeah.
So here's the thing though, okay who's looting?
Apparently what they did is put a lot of spellcaster damage onto the gear and the weapons so that
it feels really good to get upgrades.
So they took the spell damage out of the spells and into the gear so the net results
it should be the same but when you get an upgrade it feels good.
Kind of like when you get an upgrade on a warrior on a weapon it feels amazing that's
kind of how they wanted to make it for like casters too I think.
That's a W. I think the idea said W we'll see about the implementation.
Excuse me
You got any keys yeah, we're gonna be doing beta key giveaways like all day
It's in my mana reach and crazy. I think it's about the same it just looks different because the tick system isn't there
Yeah, I'll sheep something
You still have to read quest you can turn questy on or off it's up to you
No tic system is such a huge L. Hopefully they fixed that yo
Yo, I want those that's my first green. I think dude. Let's go
I'll just sheep the moon
And missed anyway and this guy's like half HP so we're not sheep and then it's fine
I'll send a Nova out though for the control
Big damage pretty much everywhere
Nice
No tick system is fine.
I think you're right that no tick system would be fine, but I don't really want to settle
for fine, right?
It's one of those small things that would be better if it was the way it should be.
If it doesn't get put in, fine, you're right.
It's not going to be a deal breaker, but I think we strive for the best possible
game that we can.
And if something like that can be done, then cool, let's do it right.
You know what I mean?
Okay, wow.
Okay, wow, oh no this.
Ah what do you mean by ticks like server ticks or is it like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Thanks for the front.
You're not going to play Horde, bro.
I'm going to play mainly Ally, but I might make it on the Pally.
We'll see.
Yo, sorry, you're the best.
I'm not a bot.
Okay, thanks for clarifying that you're not a bot.
What's your opinion on waiting for hardcore?
Uh, yeah, I'm happy.
I want to play normal first, of course, right?
It's like a brand new game.
I don't want to play hardcore right away.
I'm gonna play normal first and
Have fun with it. And then once it's kind of like, you know, we've done a lot on one character
I'll be really excited to make a hardcore tune and push that as far as I can
So I don't know if I like much opinion besides that like I'm happy. It's delayed
only things three of course will start when hardcore comes out which will be insane and
It'll yeah, it'll be a really really really really good time
yeah if I make it on it Pali it'll have to be in the normal realm since my no
major be on PvP. Any mention or news on self-found options during character
creation? No but that'd be sick. Maybe it doesn't need to happen when servers come
out but like eventually it would be cool.
Holy crap dude look how cool this looks magmatis. Oh man looks like Baron Geddon
Well the music in here is kind of like eerie too
So that made a really good call to not do only things for TBC. Yeah, I think we are all kind of waiting on this right
It's like
Yeah, we could have done only things three on TBC
But like I think waiting for this to do only things three is just gonna be way better
These party frames are standard. Yeah
Yeah, you can be human hunter pretty sure, yeah, we might need some CC on this pull
I think I'm just gonna slow everything since my damage is low
It's like might as well just like send some a we slows out here. Oh my gosh these hit hard and
insane bop for my tank, jeez.
Wow, this place is not easy.
That's good.
Willow bracers of spirit, I need them but let's see if my priest needs some more.
The priest has one stamina bracers.
I'd pass to the priest probably.
Does this seem harder than RFC?
I'm gonna pass him to the priest.
I feel like it does seem a little harder than RFC.
Horde getting the easier contents pretty normal though, it's fine.
Hoop hold.
For discussion, what is the argument for ticks?
There's still a tick, it just happens to occur more often than not like for five.
I think saying something like ticks is how it should be without reasoning is just a
nostalgia argument.
Thoughts?
Sure.
Just for discussion, the reason I didn't go into it deeper is because we've exhausted
the topic over the past few days, I've mentioned it like a hundred times, but yeah, we
can go into it again.
So for tics, it works in Classic WoW is tics happen every little bit and you can like see
when the next tic is going to happen.
So for like a rogue, for example, if you want to min-max like when to open, you'll like wait
right before the tic, ooh, okay, definitely popping a need on that cloak.
And then ambush and that tic gives you energy back so that you're higher on energy,
right?
of skill expression and since there's not like a ton of skill expression in terms of things like mechanics
in classic WoW that's one of the ways that people do have skill expression is based on the tick based
system another one is evocate for a mage you can see when the next mana tick's gonna happen you time
your evo with it and you'll get that mana back a little sooner all right one sec we're on okay i'm
I'm gonna shoot this
Magnetist comes with an ad we sheep it
Okay, he has like an aoe so we want to get out of the aoe or we could all stand in it and die
But I'm gonna I'm gonna get out I think
Cool almost reminds me the first oh
For Stan for strength
male waist
Nice up agreed
It reminds me of the first boss of RFC, honestly, very similar.
Very nice.
What were we talking about?
So yeah, that's the argument for it, is that there's skill expression.
It's not a huge skill expression, but it's always part of classic WoW, PvP, PvE, World
PvP.
It's part of how the game flows.
I'll flip this back on you, and since we're having the discussion, the burden of proof is on change.
The burden of needing to explain why something is a good addition is on you, not on me, because the game always had ticks.
So I'm going to flip it back on you.
Why is it better smooth than to have it
how we've always had it?
So exactly the opposite.
Ooh, that's a really good shield.
I'd also be curious for that pull website
like pulled all these questions um one of them I think one of the questions was a tick question
wasn't it I would be curious um how the community voted on that one specifically I actually don't
remember but maybe someone has the link
As a healer, I want to drop a heal the moment I can, not on the next tick.
That's not how ticks work, for healers.
How do I zoom out camera?
It should just be default, like scroll keybinds, but you can bind it to whatever you want.
Server ticks are gone, yeah, essentially.
Yes, it is.
Wait, explain why I'm wrong here?
I've played a priest quite a bit, but people are saying the mana 5 second rule, to my knowledge
5 second rule still exists, we're not talking about that, we're talking about server ticks,
which are a little different.
I believe 5 second rule is still in place, so that's not changed.
second rule yeah five second rule still in place I'm pretty sure I can actually
double check right here I'll see one two oh crap we're not in combat long enough
but yeah I'm pretty sure five second rule still exists so that that that's not
changing what is five second rule so five second rule is if you've casted
recently for five seconds you won't reach in mana but after five seconds you
will. So Pete, there's an add-on called five-second rule to track it. So what the
shatters we're talking about is like on a priest, what you can do is you can
basically just like renew and start wanting and not do anything for five
seconds besides like wand so that you start getting mana ticks. That's not
what we're talking about here though. We're talking about server ticks, which
is different than five-second rule. Server ticks are like energy or mana.
Is it going back smooth or is it going back on the server tick? Different
conversations, just to clarify.
But yeah, I'm, I don't know, like I would be curious what the,
what the vote comes out to actually on that website, the
classic plus website, I'm curious what the vote did come out
to when people voted on it like a few months back, not to
say that website means anything but just out of curiosity. I wonder what the pull was.
Someone linked the pull. Oh there was no pull for it really no one asked that question.
I'm really curious when it would actually, it would have been,
I did a poll the other day and it seemed pretty like split.
I did a poll like two days ago, I think.
Dude, this place looks so cool.
This is like a starting dungeon,
but it's like BRD level cool.
Okay, maybe not that cool, but like this kind of reminds me of like being deep in BRD, like so, I just love it, man.
We have like patrols and...
Elementals and...
So cool.
It's like a little mini level 12 BRD, yeah, it's so cool, man.
Awesome.
Okay, we need to keep looting these dwarven heirlooms.
Match-up ERD with this lighting. Oh, yeah, maybe the lighting is just making it so rad
Oh, okay, we just pulled threat got knocked up
This guy's name is plunder he charges the furthest one it looks like since I was furthest like twice I get double charged
Let me stay closer
I guess we could have Eureka here, but okay never mind.
He knocks everyone close and charges.
Dude, the loot in here is crazy.
Four strength, six dam, four spirit.
Yeah, what up guys?
How's it going?
I loved how you styled your hair today.
Thank you.
Over ticks do add skill expression, but not all skill expression is good design, smooth
to reach ends to rewards, resource pooling, timing, burst planning and avoiding overcap.
The difference is you're mastering your class instead of mastering an invisible server timer.
I think that's fair enough, but then that doesn't really like answer anything like
is it then good or bad, right, like, I don't know.
It's more just saying that like skill expression exists either way.
Yeah, I agree with that
Dude this is literally a mini BRT look at this you have like a bridge that you can like
Yeah, I'm like like part of me like part of my brain is like jump just to see what's down there
But I don't want to like die and run back but like
This is so cool
This is amazing
This is a level 15 dungeon by the way
Jump into the void, I mean I probably would just die
Is my view distance maxed?
Oh, no, that's camera distance I think it is I want to make sure my view distance is maxed
Yeah, it is Turn off the fog
Okay fog off looks like that fog on fog off. It doesn't really change much
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm a little late here guys. We're trying to walk it in tile on the fog here.
I love that you're just enjoying the journey. Oh yeah.
Okay, we're getting kind of smoked here. We know up the looter. We have slows everywhere.
There's loading. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Be slayer. Okay
I'll put greed on that
So we're gonna go to Westfall after we're gonna swap up go by Stormwind and get sword training so I can get this up, too
We still need two more dwarven heirlooms. I have to like send that back. Is anyone else lost?
Does anyone else know where they are? I am completely lost right now
Show your proft tab. Ah, here you go
Prof prof tab I actually like how it's all in one place now. It's really nice
This looks dope yeah looks amazing
No dungeon map no dungeon map
That's a good question
Red wool and boots. Four spell damage.
Bro, tailoring looks cracked.
Vault door? I've got to click it, guys. Sorry.
There's a quest in here.
Deliver this to Ironforge. Click on that.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, you can hide the last name in the settings.
Still there though
How did I change my UI it's just an atom
Holy crap dude if we pull this we're dead you guys care
There again third hammer
Okay.
What is good?
What is bad?
Why is the sky blue?
True.
Deep philosophical questions, but obviously ticks are bad because they give you Lyme disease.
Uh...
Okay, I'm just going to get slowest on everything here.
I think we should probably kill this first, since it's lowest.
Okay, we're getting smoked here
Our priest is getting annihilated
You know, I wish I'd like any aoe here like anything
Okay, so first golem's almost dead second golem might best be kill next
The Warriors thinking the second golem
She's gonna try to get slows on both here
Fairy sus. Oh
You can't use minor EVO in combat
I'm gonna see if Nova works on these mobs. Okay, we actually might just die. I'm gonna use my health stone from earlier
Completely tapped out guys. Good luck. Good luck. Nice land hands being used. Yeah, let's just kill the boss first
I'm gonna run up an auto attack
Nice who's loading
Whoa, whoa 12.3 main handed axe from my Pali locked in hard for that huge tanking skills
He lay in hands too a lot of good tanking gear here, man
I'm joining late but people in the subred are saying there's a power creep around 10 to 15
I hope not. I'm not really the quite there yet
That's only level 12, and I don't have any gear yet, but we'll see I hope not Wow
Servatics matter because this is CL plus CL has a rhythm and pace that's different than retail
That's the reason spell batching was fought for in original CL.
Over hundreds of hours, ticks and spell batching is very noticeable.
Yeah, I generally agree with you.
Yeah, and like I said, I would like to put it to a poll and see what the community thinks.
Last time I did it, the poll was quite even.
And I heard Payo talking about this, but yeah, it's classic plus, right?
right, it's a game based on plastic while.
So if you want to change it, you can, absolutely.
But you need a strong majority of people
that are like somewhat excited about something
for it to make sense.
Not, oh, well, let's just do it this way
because that's how it is on a more modern game, right?
It's like, no, it's classic plus, right?
It should be based on plastic first.
So I completely agree with you.
I don't, you know, like I said,
if 90% of people, 80% of people were like,
No, dude, no ticks are way better, but I don't think that would be the case.
That's not the last boss, is there?
Is R I salute you for breaking things down for peeps?
Yeah, I mean, there might be a lot of people in here that don't even know what server ticks are.
Never heard of five-second rule in the first place.
Why is it even a conversation?
Holy crap, what's this way?
Oh, that's where we came up from.
Okay, so this way might be some more stuff.
There's a bunch of...
I mean we can just clear everything we might as well
Dude, I wish I had arcane explosion
Brother these blues are way too frequent. Yeah, we'll see how power creep is
I'm a little I'm a little nervous about it, but we'll see
Captain, thanks for the prime.
Anvil Mars Arrest.
Okay.
There's a quest turning over there.
Is that the full dungeon?
It might be.
I feel like there's a lot of different ways that we could have gone that we didn't go.
There's an exit here.
Maybe that is the whole place.
So this was locked at first.
What about this way?
So we went in and took a left.
I'm going to go turn this question.
Why are some people acting like RFC with some super hard dungeon?
I think this is harder than RFC, personally.
Not that like, bro, they're like level 12 dungeons, like 15 dungeons, like they're
supposed to be. I don't think I'm going to use that cloak anyway. Yo, I think 13-hole.
Cool. So I think that's the full place. I really liked this. I've got to say, I like
this dungeon more than RFC. Sorry, horde players out there. I think this is cooler
than RFC straight up. The ambiance, it's almost like an introduction to BRD, right
when you start the game. Makes me like Alliance even better.
RFC came out 20 years ago.
Yeah, it's not a fair fight.
Never said it was a fair fight.
But it's pretty cool is what I am saying.
Wonder if there's a way to get in here.
Lord got a new under city dungeon to.
Yeah, I want to check that out.
I don't know if there's another quest but it looks like I have like at least three quests in here.
I'm really concerned Blizzard to not adjust the world to all players buffs items talents abilities ratios etc
The fun of leveling classic is basically why I play the game. Are you able to bring this concern up?
We'll see if it's a concern when we play the beta. Yeah, I'm a little concerned as well
But hopefully they tune it somewhat right to keep you the way after dungeon next one soon. I don't know when
Did you see Zyreen's message? No
Is Zyreen in the trap? Okay, let's turn in some quests here. Hopefully we don't fall into the lava again
Okay guys an offhand with five damage and two spirit or six in three stamina gloves
I honestly like the gloves.
I feel like the off-hand I'll probably replace with something else but the gloves are gonna
last me longer.
Plus I don't really care for spirit.
The damage is insane but I'm gonna go gloves.
I like that it's an actual choice you know like either one would have been awesome.
Having a blue item at level 13 is definitely a little iffy.
See how that feels.
Yeah that's a lot of XP.
So a big part of the experience is literally just from that turn in.
I just dung up 13 and now I'm 13 and a half.
So like when we killed the mobs in the dungeon, we are getting like 15 XP, like literal 15.
But now, when you turn in the quest, it's like a massive pop.
So you get like no XP, all dungeon till the end.
So you only really want to do a dungeon once for all the quests, I mean you could keep
doing it if you want.
But doing it one time for the quest is like really good XP.
Really good items and really good XP.
Look at that XP man, are you kidding me, disgusting.
It means no more dungeon boosts, right?
Like if you're just like, no more just like sitting there doing the same dungeon 30 times.
I mean you can, it just won't be like the best way to level now.
I actually really like that.
I like it a lot.
I like it a lot a lot.
There's also 9 new dungeons on the way to 60's so every few levels you'll be able
to do a dungeon, do a bunch of quests and level up.
I am a little concerned like I wonder how fast 1 to 60 is actually gonna be. I don't know
Because I think I'm gonna level up here again
18.5 DPS wand yeah
That is disgusting
Okay, so now we're level 14 and a half I wouldn't not level 12
Almost I was 12 and a half now we're 14 and a half. We got pretty much all of that exp through dungeons and dungeons alone
Okay, now we put this wand on now I'm feeling like stupid strong
Okay, that one is OP yeah, so my wand is 18.5 DPS
It's literally might be one of the strongest things I have
My warrior says he has five blues level 15. I wonder if they went overboard with blues at this level
Five blues at 15 isn't gonna make a blue feel good later. I wonder if it's like too much
I mean, it's exciting right now, but I'm curious how it's gonna like
Yeah, I'm curious how it's gonna age, you know
Train swords, yeah, true.
Ampys says it falls off immediately.
That's good.
That's really good.
People saying too much export too easy.
From quests and kills you would get two levels from Deadmines at level 18.
level 12 it's completely normal yeah I agree with that I completely agree with
that
okay I'm gonna take the tram over and go to Stormwind and start questing over
there and till I'm strong enough to do dead mines that sounds super fun
new inbuff oh thanks bro I cannot believe my my lag unless I keep re-logging
that memory leak is crazy go kill hogger okay yeah yeah it's a resetting for one
name yep mage quest for offhand um good coms i could do the mage quest for the offhand
you think classic is playable for old people without dungeons absolutely yeah is there a spellbook
Look, UI from the add-on, yep.
Or the bars from the add-on, yep.
What add-on are you using for the classic UI feel?
Classic UI forever.
Everyone wants to know this add-on, guys.
Dude, Blizzard, I swear it should have just been in.
It is like, it's so nice, bro.
Okay, I definitely want that sword.
Don't care about that stuff.
Yeah, every like third question add on add on add on. I don't blame you guys. I don't blame you guys
Is it okay if I like the new UI that is awesome, bro, if you like I think that's Blizzard's kind of whole like
gambit is like
Is our like people are actually gonna like the new UI and
I've actually heard a lot of people say hey, man. I'm a classic guy, but the new UI is growing on me
And I'm like to that I say sick. That's cool. I'm glad
What was I gonna do I
I want one more bag. I want to go to Stormwind. I think I'm gonna skip the mage
class to just get the yeah I'm just go over.
I keep reading there's too much power creep. I haven't experienced it yet but
from people, from what I'm hearing is there's like,
like you feel weak and then you feel strong
and if you feel weak and you feel strong,
like there's kind of goes up and down, which is cool, right?
Like you get a new item, you feel strong,
but a couple of levels later, like maybe not so much,
you know, I think that's pretty sick.
The water looks incredible, yeah.
Hi, order Skyborne, Sherwood. That's crazy, man.
Can you show the tooltip of Frostbolt spells? Sure.
Frostbolt rank 1, Frostbolt rank 2, Frostbolt rank 3.
Learned swords, yeah I think it's in Stormwind right?
Why is XP so fast?
So my slash played is 8 hours and 30 minutes and I'm level 14.
Is that fast?
I mean, I've been going pretty slow.
Do these numbers dynamically update if you take off spell power?
Great question.
to 50 and then let me take off my off my cloak. They do dynamically update with spell power.
The only spell power I have is my cloak though for two damage. So now it's 43 to 49.
That yeah it is pretty cool. You want to know something else kind of cool? Check this out.
Well, wait, what was that going to show?
Yeah, absolutely, Paladin feels good, good, good.
I was going to show you guys weapons skills, but maybe the add-on is still like adding
matter or something so never mind what can we people are out here men's is
insane you can seal to us but you need a talent for it
high shell crater arena I've not seen that
Go check out storm and harbor yo, I will I will so I get my yo cheese cheese guys
Well, let's check out storm and harbor we'll get training and then we'll head down to like Hogger area and then go to Westfall. Oh
My gosh, look how good storm one looks
Probably been asked to million oh look how good it looks
Dude, oh my gosh, look how good it looks. It's mainly the lighting dude
You need to go back at night. Oh my gosh, it just looks so good
Man
Man, oh man, that's cool
Dual spec, yeah. I think it's 40 plus.
Man, the game looks way better than I ever thought it could have. Like this just is insane.
I'm almost tempted to turn off the UI add-on just so we stop getting the questions about
the UI add-on.
Wait, I'm tempted.
Very tempted.
Blizzard, if you're watching this, I mean, clearly people are...
I'm just saying saying
Classic UI forever. Yep
Small black pouch no handouts no handouts no handouts here. Yep full maddie bro
Want to go check out the harbor. Let's check this out
Look how good it looks bro, oh my gosh
Yes, sir
Okay, so we have boats.
Yeah, let's just jump down here and check them out.
66, hopefully we don't die on this next jump.
Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
So if you're on night elf and you want to get to the human starting zone, you can
just take the boat over. No more having to run through. I love that man. A bunch of night elves
taking the boat. Sick. And then where does this one go? So we're training, yeah, we'll
grab it in a sec. Yeah, RIP, the wetlands run. I mean it was kind of fun and iconic
But like I think overalls is still such a W
Where did these ones go
Make sure you take the correct boat I'm not even taking any I was just checking them out
Yeah, welcome back
Maybe that boat stays stationary
I
Look at that water though, bro. Yeah, can we take a second to appreciate the water?
Like I guarantee they're gonna put this water in the retail
Like it looks so good. It looks so much better than like and like
It's so sick
That is literally wow water bro
It looks amazing
Jump in the water sound needs an update
Does not sound good at all
But the water looks amazing
That's not on a retail no
Let's see where does this book go to so I think these ones are stationary maybe this one at the end is this one the
menethal
Yeah, yeah, if you guys want to hear the sound this is this is it
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of weird and also is it is it am I crazy here?
is this just 100% delayed? Like it's half a second after it should be. Maybe maybe even
a quarter of a second it's like slightly delayed. Yeah it's like it's like a quarter of a second
the sound comes like a little after it should. The sound itself isn't very good but it's
also like 0.25 second delayed. Which makes it sound even worse because it's like I hit
the water then the sound happens. Yeah, 100% delayed. It's it's here. Let's do it. Water
sound effect 0.25 second or so delayed. Also update the sound they all just do that.
It's more like 0.3 seconds. Oh, okay, true
What is the quest let's take a look
I
Bring the gatehouse shipment to the stock room entrance located in the cheese shop in the trade district. I
Mean I'm on my way anyway, let's take it to the cheese shop then let's do that
Check out the boats massive cheese. Let's go go to the cheese shop get our sword training head down to kill hogger
Shall we?
well you try to speedrun 60 no I'm gonna go for world slowest 60 thanks for
always being happy I'm gonna go slow to others I'm gonna enjoy the process for
you and the family forever we're gonna vibe out we're gonna vibe out and then
every like 15 seconds we're gonna get like amp he's already on his third
level 60 bro and I'm like level 18. It's like yeah, it's how it's gonna go man. It's how it's gonna go.
Pika will beat that slowest record. Yeah, like Pika and I like to level slow. Guzhu's another one.
Guzhu gets it bro. Guzhu level is really slow but it's fun man. It's fun to level slow.
All my hardcore tunes, that's how I do it you know.
takes me takes me a while but it's good because then it's like a journey versus just like
trying to get there at least that's how I like to do it personally because once I'm max level
on it. Why are you not speaking on the negatives? I don't have that much negative to say. The
only negatives that I really have are it's like the UI and the ticks. I don't know what
else to say negative man it's pretty good the water sound yeah um I mean rogues I
think got like a lot more than like a mage for example so like if mage has got
like three extra blinks and rogue had no step I'd be like this is a problem but
since most classes didn't really get anything rogue not getting shot of stuff
and cloak needs to be that way. Like if you just gave rogue shadow step and cloak but didn't give
warrior like leap or mages and other blink like you can't give rogue step without giving
more mobility to other classes so you either creep mobility or keep mobility the same and I think
it's a good decision to keep mobility the same because once you creep mobility it's like the
game just becomes so fast paced and PvP PvE everything so I think it's a good decision.
They changed the human male death sound effect and the new sound is a grown that is very
Thanks for the thought man.
Alright weapon master.
One handed swords baby.
Ten spell damage let's go.
I have no off hand but whatever.
Thoughts on planes running, it looks really strong.
Ten spell damage is more than a lot of items in the 40s, yeah, they put the spell damage
into the weapons now, so it feels good to get a weapon upgrade as a caster, that was
on purpose carry the gatehouse shipment up the stairs to Shria shop and leave it outside
outside the door.
Outside the door.
Oh, this door.
I was like, what door?
Okay, I see it now.
Is there always a door here?
Gatehouse door.
I never noticed that door.
I mean, it kinda does blend in though.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay, sick.
There wasn't a door there?
Yeah, I don't remember ever being a door there, but it kind of blends in anyway.
New quest, sick.
Flight path, good comms guys, very good comms.
Strong communication guys, there we go, let's get it.
Dude, look how sick Stormwind looks. Oh my gosh, dude.
Is this happening to anyone else playing the beta? Like, just every couple minutes, you just stop and you're just like...
It's the same Stormwind we know, it just looks incredible.
Like, literally, yeah, everyone's saying yes. Like, literally every couple minutes, it's just like...
Wow.
Wow.
I'm not sure.
This guy says I almost cried looking at it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it I actually haven't cried yet, but I almost cried yesterday looking at some some spots.
I feel like it is very emotional for those of us that have played.
Wow.
It is insane thunder bluff looks amazing. I haven't seen it
You're trolling it's the exact same thing with improved graphics you guys are
You guys are ridiculous.
Dude, that is spoken like someone who hasn't played
while their whole lives.
Look, if you're an outsider watching this, it might look the same.
But if you're a lifelong while player, this is amazing.
Like this is so cool.
Like we are all nerding out over here.
If you've played while your whole lives, like even this, even this right here
with the shadows coming through.
Like everything's like so HD like the trees
It looks so good
I've literally cried multiple times. Yeah, it's like a big deal. Oh my gosh. It's my first time in Ellen by the way
The light poking through all the leaves like that is just so sick
Dude this is so cool look at the water look at the water dude look at that oh
I should have made a human mage just just cuz oh I should have made a human oh
Oh look at the water there dude. Oh my gosh
The water sound is awful though
Oh, there was an option with like water water collision
No, I actually kind of like that on if you're underwater just forces your camera underwater and if you're above water it forces it above water
That's actually kind of a nice setting
Yeah, the water sound is very not good the water look is amazing
Wow, I'm obsessed guys, I'm actually obsessed.
Like look at that dude.
Look at that man.
that dude. Wow I should have made a human mage just cause like I'm so more so much more
comfortable with the elwin starting zone than the gnome that like I want to experience
this you know I guess I'm here now maybe my next character I'll do a human warrior
because I just want to see the I want to see the elwin starting experience so bad
and warrior I'll do next. Yeah, it has to be it. Two spell damage, two int ploth. Wow.
What can I do for you?
Guys if you want a guild invite to our guild whisper anyone online in the guild besides me and anyone can invite
Huge and all paw
Wait, where's the armband quest?
Oh, the armband quest?
Is it usually from Goldshire?
Maggie Nature.
Oh, that's a person.
I thought that was an NPC.
Death Hand, Little Foot.
Dude, the first last name thing is so good for roleplayers.
Holy crap.
Yeah, go hogger hogger
Comprehend scroll, what do we get?
In-elect.
Give it to this guy.
I feel crazy strong what the heck I guess I'm 14 and these are oh that's literally a gray mob
okay maybe that's why okay yeah these guys are eight nine ten okay that's why I'm 14
Yeah, I have good items too. Yeah, I feel very strong though right there
Yo, hogger, are you a hogger's right here?
Invite, please I got you
This guy's name is Fred Rick Nietzsche
Your fine minerals is not on thanks for I just put it on
Huge null paw
W
Warrior wants to fool me
Sit it
Arcane missile bug with me, okay
Dude the freedom you get is so OP what the heck escape artist freedom. Are you kidding me?
Wow.
Wand?
Oh yeah, true, I forgot that I have wand now.
My wand is probably like my best thing I can do.
What's your opinion on the day-night cycle?
I love it.
It's gonna wand.
Only wand.
is so strong holy crap all right let's turn in hogger quest and hit head off to Westfall
Xar will never experience night time in this game lol that's actually kind of true
I'll have to log in.
I saw a bunch of those screenshots that you guys posted in Discord last night.
Looks sick.
This hot is what I need. Yeah, it's nice
Yeah nighttime looks so cool, I'm gonna have to log in tonight. Hey, thanks for the two woman
Dude look how good it looks. Oh my gosh
We've asked absolutely have to fix this memory leak though. This lag is crazy
Oh look how good it looks guys.
L1 is stunning yeah yeah I'd say even like even better than Thunmarow like it's
just like all the shadows from the trees man oh
is there an HD SD toggle for the environment? No. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but
personally I'm fine with that because this just looks so good. I would never want to
turn it off. The thing that I like about it is that it's still the OG like texture
Like it's still like the crappy trees or whatever.
It's not like they're trying to go hyper realistic.
It's still the style, but it just looks incredible.
It's not like they put a brand new tree in.
It's the same tree.
It's not like they put in a brand new building.
It's the same building.
It just looks insanely good.
It's low poly, but HD.
Exactly.
I love it.
I think it looks amazing.
And this is something I would complain about
I didn't like it by the way this is something I'd be like yeah no but it
looks it looks great
two damage
okay um yeah let's go to Westfall
I'll be right back.
Um, any more keys coming soon?
Yeah.
I'll do another key in a second here.
Let me get to a place where I can like stop running.
Okay, guys, I just got confirmation.
The water jumping sound is changed in the next build.
Boom, right there.
There we go.
Nice.
Huge.
Completely, yeah.
This no longer in the next build.
Nice.
Yes, huge.
I asked if I could share too and I got permission so we're not breaking any rules here.
If you're wondering, that's what we're talking about.
So guys, if you do like this water sound effect, it's your last time to get an earful of it.
What's your opinion on a permanent portal between Stormwind and Dalaran?
Does that exist?
Can you get to Dalaran instep from Stormwind?
I didn't know about that.
It does?
Oh wow.
I don't know if I like that because you already can take the boat to South Shore, right?
Yeah, I think I actually don't like that. I don't know if that exists or not, but that's true should take the boat, right?
Yeah, it's in the mage tower. Yeah, I'll have to check that out later
Are there macros behind 3 and 5?
3 is my top rank frostbolt, 5 is my rank 1 frostbolt.
That's like the only difference.
So these are quests I've done like hundreds of times so this will be interesting.
I'm very comfortable with these ones.
I haven't done the known starting stone quest like all that much so I almost should have just done human
Giveaway time um, okay, let's do another giveaway
Um for this one guys, this is just a beta key
This is a beta key giveaway. I'll do the command in a sec here
This is a beta key giveaway.
We'll call it forever beta one forever beta one.
If you guys want to join the giveaway just type forever beta one in the chat.
We'll roll it off in a second.
Forever beta one.
Okay.
I'm also going to go to the restroom when we're doing this.
You guys can keep just spamming here.
Holy crap, this looks good.
Oh my gosh, this looks good.
I wanna AFK and go to the restroom,
but this just looks so cool.
I can't even leave my computer.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, I'm just nerding, dude.
Okay, I'll be right back on site.
Forever beta one, guys.
If you wanna join, be right back on site.
Yo, everyone on YouTube.
This is Twitch,
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YouTube has no DM,
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So if you're on YouTube, you come to Twitch,
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We're going to be giving away more collector's editions, beta keys, forever beta one in the
chat.
We'll roll it in about five seconds here.
This YouTuber is this one's just for Twitch because if you win, I have to be able to DM
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So if you're on YouTube, come over to Twitch, say hi, or we'll end about 10 seconds here.
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Okay, followed one day ago. Buzz Lightyear 69. Congratulations on your beta key. Congratulations.
Proved to me you're not a bot somehow. Holy. I'm not. Guys, what should I ask this guy? Can I
I said no no I don't know okay all right you proved it you you proved it I don't
want that do not do that do not do that I will ban you I will ban you you proved
it to me you're a real person check your DMs for the code goodness gracious please
please do not do that cool that was good proof I guess great there's your
code man. Enjoy the beta. GGs. GGs.
King level 4. King level 4 holo? Crap.
Y'all let's do this guy.
I'll send some tools real quick.
Tool cancelled. Yeah, I would cancel that tool too if I were you.
you. We need some oats. We need some oats. There's a note. Crazy Prime turn out walk.
Thanks for the prime. Psycho snide. Beautiful. Thanks for the prize, guys. I kind of have
to sneeze but like I don't really have to sneeze. It's like a half sneeze. Shot, thanks
for the prime, KV thanks for the prime, bomb thanks for the prime, other thanks for the
prime. Are you looking exhausted today? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it might be too strong. We'll see. The thing about metagames is, the funny
thing about metagames is that there always is a metagame. You can't not have a best way
way to do something, by definition, you have to.
There has to be a best way, then a second best way,
and a third best way, et cetera, right?
So the question then becomes, how big of a gap
is the best thing to do versus the second best,
and then the third best, and then the fourth best?
So is there compelling reasons to want
to do the other professions?
If you have to be pigeonholed into doing only one, like that's a problem.
But if the other professions give you stuff that are good enough to want to do those two, then like that's not a problem.
So we'll see.
Valpin, thanks for the prom.
He doesn't read YouTube chat, gotcha.
This is go to gameplay, thank you.
Okay, we got the pocket wash, W.
Let's get some more oats.
Yeah, thanks to the Beast of Four, man.
Dude, I really want some more oats, but I actually might skip the oat quest because
there are a lot of gamers out here.
Hey, Capsi, thanks for the front.
Well the counterpoint to that is in Rested XP, there are some times where it'll say by
this white sword from the vendor if you haven't found a better green yet.
Skip if you have.
If luck is involved, it can change the meta whether it's something.
Right, so you're saying like with a profession like that, there's no more like dynamic or
there's less dynamic things in the gameplay in terms of itemization.
So it's not like, oh I'm gonna make an SSF character, this time around I'm gonna
do that this time around I'm gonna do that but instead blacksmithing every single time
there's just gonna give you crack loot um I guess my point being
we'll see what the other professions have like if other professions are still compelling enough
to do them then maybe you'll take your chance at random loot instead of going blacksmithing um
because the other professions that good but we'll see I don't know I think it might
feel like a little too early to tell but I think you're right like I think no matter what it
It is definitely something that is a little concerning, and if I was blitzer I'd keep
an eye on.
10, 20, 40 man raids is the worst possible idea possible.
Tanks that want to tank having to give up their spot, or DPS that don't want to tank
being forced to tank, same with healers.
Guilds forced to become larger, losing hide and social groups.
Horrible.
Prime.
I'm a little confused on what you mean by that.
So there's going to be very few 40 man raids, so we can just talk about 10 and 20, like a
Nixie is 40, but they're not like doing new 40 man content, they're not really like supporting
40 man content.
So it's really like 10 and 20 each here.
In terms of 10 and 20, like I think they're a little more approachable, right?
Like you have a 10 man raid that you can easily get a group for, like in Season of
Discovery for BFD, etc. No mergon, you know blah blah blah and then you have your 20-man raid where you just put together two 10-man groups
to my knowledge I
Mean in a 20-man raid what I guess what you're saying is like in two 10-man groups. You might have two tanks
You should make the red red run today. Yeah sounds good cool new things to look at want to see your opinions on some of them
Yeah, definitely
Here I'm gonna try a little a we fall here
Dude, Eureka would be really good for AoE grinding, I just realized that.
Sick.
But yeah, to go back to the other guy's question, you basically have about two 10-man groups
and go to a 20-man...
In a 20-man, you might not need four tanks, you maybe only need three.
interview with clavex that there would be more 40 man's raids to come
Sparingly though, they're not supporting 40 man raids in terms of like oh, we're gonna do a new 40 man every tier
So I don't really think it's part of the conversation like as much
It's not like 10 and 20 is their focus 40 is gonna be more of like a flavor thing for fun
Dude, your Rika's so good for A.E. grinding.
Alright.
We need more oats.
We need more oats.
Where are my undead pallies at everywhere literally everywhere
How do we get a gene bite whisper anyone in the guild food buff gives you XP bonus sure
How do I not get Lua errors? I'm only using one add-on.
My dead mage here had four pallies in my party, yeah.
Hey, but a barrel.
Enjoying watching the streams. I glad you're enjoying
Okay, I'll try to kill five mobs cuz four I think is the break point for some aoe here
Hmm
That was kind of close streamer benefits. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. No, no, no, we're just gaming up. Yeah, so so that fifth mob
Bob took a lot less damage, but it kinda worked out.
Ooh, nice, we actually needed an off-hand.
Sick.
It bugged out, cause he open traded with me.
Same time.
Anyone else having FPS issues?
Yeah, yeah, same.
So this item is completely bugged out,
cause this guy open traded with me
at the same time as I equipped it
it made it like gray and then a reloading doesn't fix it either. Yeah, I'll try relugging.
Disappointed with WoW forever announcement. Too much new stuff too quickly and BlazorD even
acknowledged that they won't do community consensus style implementation of new content or features
in keeping with the we know best game design philosophy. I think they did an okay job at
listening. I think it's an impossible task, man. Did that fix it? I think the reality is...
I think the reality is is they basically have an impossible task but I will say is you know
I didn't get everything I wanted I don't think anyone got everything they wanted but I think
a lot of people got a lot of what they wanted I think the big things they got right and
And with that, I'm happy.
The big things they got really right, you know?
The big stuff.
It's not everything.
So you know, they're not gonna please everyone, but...
Campfire nearby.
Oh, I can use this campfire?
Let's see.
Slash set.
Oh gosh.
Slash sit
Slash sit
I do love all the professions being right here man sick
I wonder if the layering system makes it so that it prefers people in your own guild because forever hype forever hype
forever hype forever hype
Forever hype forever hype everyone around me is players in my own guild
I think it does yeah, I think it does too because what are the chances because there's like so many people online
they said it does that's that's actually pretty cool so you're gonna see
like gildies and people that you've been seeing across that's really cool
yo out here I was sick
rap familiar I like that
more clutch plays for real for real that's got to be about there's no way I wasn't even
doing anything basic campfire slash sits guys look the campfire meta is working
this guy puts on a campfire and players come up out of nowhere cool I don't have
my loadstone talk to them give me a sec guys I'm doing something I'm really
I can't say anything right this second got to work on my my bandaging. Yeah, that's it
Wait, why do I not have the buff when I slush sit near it shouldn't I gain camp benefit buff? Yeah, what the heck?
Oh, it's bugged. Oh
I already have it
No, I don't
Now it's bugged. Normally you get this thing here.
60 second welcoming campfire buff. I don't have that. Oh there it is, there it is.
Kind of now.
It wasn't working when I was over here, but I moved and now it works.
T.Y. for campfire. This is huge.
Now look, I mean, guys, it's actually working. I'm only here to take advantage of your nice stuff.
Well, not me.
I'm here for friendship.
The free stuff is just a nice side benefit.
Welp, I gotta run.
Alright, gotta buff.
Let's move.
Umm, sick.
Let's get some more oats.
should have a one hour CD. I don't want people switching back and forth during raids. Do we
know how much it will cost? I have no idea. Swapping back and forth in a raid is that a
big deal? I don't think it is. I don't know how much it's going to cost. I would guess
like a hundred gold at 40 and in terms of a cooldown like I would assume no but I
don't know
oh my wand skill is low I should have escaped artist oh I'm out
experience is too fast it should take months to 60 what do you think based on the data we
have right now we're about leveling at a similar speed as classic era i'm level 14 with a slash
played of nine hours and 23 minutes i don't think that's unusual i think it's about the
same ish. Maybe it'll speed up at some levels, maybe it'll slow down in others, but as of
right now we don't have... like I don't think we're in the position to say, oh wait this
is way too fast. So we'll see. It's the same, it's fine. I actually don't know. I can't
tell you if it's fine or not fine, for me it just seems like about the same right
now. So we'll keep an eye on it, but I agree it should be about the same as Aera.
In terms of like 1-60 should take 6-8 slash played-ish, a little under, a little over, that's fine.
But if you're hitting 60 in like 3 days played, you know, not as a speedrunner as a normal player, that's like not good.
You know, it should take a while, so I agree with that.
But as of right now, it's like, it is, it is the same, so...
I mean it's nice the mage is can still do that.
We're looking for some oats.
Have you done Slashu Winter Spring?
Slashu Winter Spring.
There's two people in there.
Human Hunter and Night Elf Hunter.
I don't know how they got there.
Huh.
run true. Okay. Let's turn in these two, go for the stew, cry and stout mantle. We'll
get a little stronger then we'll head up with deadlines. I think that's a move.
Gold farmers are already selling gold on beta.
Who buys gold on a beta soda?
Like who buys gold on a beta?
Guys, please don't even do that.
Don't even.
Yeah, the new Iron Four Dungeon is amazing.
It's the Power Creep real level 14 in Westphal.
You can never AoE kill 3 plus mobs.
be out of mana after two kills, not complaining about the speed of leveling, about the difficulty?
Yeah, I'm actually curious. Like if you're a 14, no mage, then you go to those same nulls
on ERA. Oh, you have to ink 15. Can you do what I just did, or are you just gonna die?
That is like, that's a fair question. Very fair.
It's too low.
You can.
Yes.
No, you can't.
You can't.
You can't.
You can.
Yes.
No, you definitely can.
Yes.
Like I would be curious right now.
Oh, I actually have a level 14 on Era.
I could log into right now.
are I could actually log into my I have a 14 on era
Shai Shai real quick I have a 14 no mage on era in Westfall
give me a second I want this
I kinda wanna do that
exact test I killed four on here
you know I was pretty low HP and mana by the end of it but I could do it
Um
Actually, you know, I should have made you an only precision whatever
Okay, give me a sec. I'll test that real quick. That actually sounds kind of fun to test
Wait, is there a queue?
Is there a queue to log in?
Oh, I hope not.
No, there's probably no queue, right?
Oh, is there?
Oh, gosh.
Okay, I have a 14, no mage on-era right here.
So we just AoE'd four mobs on forever.
This was my hardcore character so I'm dead.
I actually haven't played this guy once since I died.
My gear on this guy for this test is this.
Just if anyone is wondering, two slash played, nine hours, 46 minutes slash played.
What did I say on forever?
Always my slash played on my other guy.
Nine hours, 45 minutes.
It's the exact same.
exact same. So the slash played between my two 14 no mages are identical. This is
where I died to the pillagers right here. I have never
read on the SkyTill right now. I died on the SkyTill. This is my first hard
quark character. I died. I died to those two pillagers right there. But now we
have to use this guy for a test.
Okay.
Dude, am I dead?
Okay, hopefully not.
Yeah, I don't have Arcane Explosion on my bars.
Wait, I don't have Arcane Explosion at all.
You can get it from the trainer, huh? But I just don't have it.
I have to get Arcane Explosion. I can hurt the Storm and fly back, but...
We're too deep now.
I mean, I got 100% just like...
Oh, there's two people on this realm right now.
Oh, do you get it at 16?
You don't get it at 14?
If it no, I'm pretty sure it's 14
I'm actually like really curious because there's a lot of people that keep saying like
You know, it's easier harder or whatever
good to see you popping off hey, thanks man
you had campfire buffs I had campfire buffs and I had a potion on and I had like multiple
blue items but that's not the point because the point is on era you would never have those
things and on forever you would have those things right
It's fine if you're slightly stronger. Yeah, well, we'll see. Yeah, like by the way, it's not like, oh
It's like, oh gotcha. We're you know, I'm just kind of curious
I'm fine with it either way because it seems in the ballpark, but I'm kind of curious
A four mob pull on forever is very doable
Can you do that same four mob pull here or is it just not doable?
same spec on this guy actually don't even have a spec the spec I was was
frostbolt speed which doesn't matter
how do you know what spells go where without even thinking because I've been
playing World of Warcraft my entire life
have you done the corp show on the grim battal yet? I have not.
I'm going PvP. Yeah, PvP for sure.
This just shows how crazy the lighting changes are.
Oh yeah, like forever looks so much better.
The water, the lighting, the shadows, like it's crazy.
I do like the UI over here, though. I'm just gonna say.
What are you testing slash checking out?
I'm just testing the relative strength between someone.
A gnome, a level 14, no mage trying to a we grind for mobs in Westfall on forever.
Versus on era to see the power difference.
I just did it on forever and four mobs was hard like it took me to 20% life 20% mana, but I did it
I'm curious on era
If we can do the same thing
You did five mobs, I think someone held me with the fifth one though
Also check frostbill damage.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess I could.
Like how much is frostbill hitting here?
53.
56.
Like for people that, you know, like even on era, you're killing a mob and like, like,
You're killing a mob in like, you know...
Oh, the mana ticks are so nice here though. I do like the mana ticks.
Literally the same. Yeah, it feels about the same. I'm gonna go to that same exact pack over here.
Seems very similar single target, yeah.
Oh, these guys are leveling together in an era. I love it.
But you had magic damage gear but that's kind of the point right like you're gonna have
off that magic damage care.
Campfires and world buffs feel like they'll be similar by end game?
No.
Bucks were crazy, bro.
I think it was this pack that I did up here, right?
Four mobs.
Wasn't a big deal.
Yeah, here we go.
One, two, three, four. I'm gonna clear this one out real quick.
Should maybe even clear this one so it doesn't come like mid-pull
One two three
Four it's about five frost bolts to kill like a mob one level under me
Man of reach end feels a little slower
Might be slightly
100% he dies. Alright guys, do I die here on this same pole?
We just did it on forever. It was very chill. Do we die here?
We'll see. We'll see. Let's test it.
seems exactly the same if anything even easier on era but exactly like it may be
slightly easier on era to be honest does that does that solve that like it's not
easier on forever at least right now right the damage we're doing the ease
at which we can kill four mobs I'm gonna keep my character here if we want to
test more stuff but we'll go back on forever for right now but that's like
really cool right it's good to test it out exactly it's all placebo yeah like
if anything that was literally easier on era we can try it again by the way
You know that same four-pole
I'm level 15 now on this character though instead of 14
Don't even use Eureka, yeah Eureka makes it like pretty strong.
There's a 4 pull up here, let's see if I can get it.
These are level 12s though.
Okay, 4 pull here.
I won't even use Eureka.
I mean it feels very similar guys.
feels like very, very, very similar.
My Frostbolt did 56 damage on Era, it's doing 54 here.
Like within one or two damage.
Feels very similar.
Mana might be slightly better here.
Yeah, maybe.
But like it's very close.
of
How do I feel about double names? I don't hate them. Makes sense, since there's only
one server now. Insane plays as always. Thanks, bro. Eureka got nerfed kind of hard. Wait,
Where's the Eureka nerfs?
That was a bot.
No, he was just saying insane plays.
Incredible, incredible gameplay.
Wow.
Oh, thanks, dude.
Do tics significantly impact anything other than rogue druid openers?
Uh, yeah, it's like drink walking too for a mage or evo timing for a mage.
Or drink walking for any class in pvp.
It's mainly like a pvp thing, but openers for rogues and druids as well, yeah.
No drink walking sucks.
I mean, like I said, it's not a massive deal, but it would be nice if we could
get tics.
It's not a huge deal, but it would be nice.
Oh man, the game looks so much better though.
Right away when you log to the other one in the back,
like era the back to forever, it's like whoa.
the bloom looks bad I actually turn bloom off or at least low I'm not a big fan of
bloom either I bloom high like a little too
am I seeing death squad yet I have not we'll definitely check it out though
You're running up a Pali next I could go undead Pali on PvE or a good to send warrior here
We'll see
Updated tree models would have been sick. I like the Ochees. I like the Ochees
What engine did they make the game and apparently the retail one?
I did the Ironforge Dungeon already.
I might do it again honestly. It was sick.
They did an amazing job with graphics and channel. Yeah, it's amazing.
Savick's wishes there were jiggle physics in wow forever star. What are your thoughts?
What do you what what does he mean by that? Can you do a battleground? Um, I would assume they're open.
Hall of Tanks has big BRD vibes, oh massive BRD vibes, yeah, it's huge man.
I don't know yet, I'm in G mining right now.
Yep, that's right, Gutham 1 is just for the slow, yep.
Does that have fingers of frost proc? No, I don't have that to later level.
Set contrast is 65 and brightness to 45? I don't know. I don't know if I like tweaking
this stuff. No, dude, I don't, I don't know. Every time I tweak it, it's like it kind
it looks cool and it's like eh it's about OG actually have fog on right now
I'm just having on did they fix one shoot speed yeah it looks like they did
wands are fixed which is good dead mines today yeah I think we're gonna hop in a
dead mines in a little bit.
Dude, it's tough to find these spawns here.
So we can get in a Derek's group here Derek care, bro
Talons, I'm a improved frost bowl and a promo frost right now
kind of think I should maybe do one in le precision and then like three in frostbite
and then like Iceland's can't even tell
three pieces of feedback for Blizzard go UI toggle one ticks to I don't even know
if there's like a third one that's like good enough to even mention my water
sound with Ernie fixed it what's up third one I don't even know I don't even
know if I would do a third like that's how good like I can't even come up
with three things to complain about that's pretty sick.
The FPS performance issues like I would assume
are just gonna be fixed, like I don't know man.
But yeah, the performance issues are pretty bad.
potential power creep I guess but you know I'd be like warning against a
potential thing not something that's actually happening with something that
could but yeah I think that's a fair thing like if if power creep eventually
gets to that point good to keep it on I was watching Savik's do something and
look too easy like okay you have to keep a few things in mind guys first of all
you're watching streamers these guys are absolute no-life gaming giga-chads
alright all streamers are really good players okay that's but that's not the
major point another point is okay yes streamers are good gamers but maybe
we're just misremembering okay you play an era you remember it really really
hard but we just did a test where I logged into era a second ago and we
the same stuff we're doing on here, same damage numbers, same amount of frostbulls, same amount
of arcane explosions, everything feels about the same, you know.
Is that graphics to DirectX 11? Does that fix it?
No, okay.
I updated my discord to have the link to the add-on I'm using.
Wait, I think I linked to the wrong one. Hold on, let me make sure it's just the right one.
Hold on.
So whoever asks just can do x-mage point add-ons and you're done so.
Wow, forever hype.
Yes, this one.
Cool, it's this one.
Okay, it's in my discord now if you guys want it, I'll link it in chat too.
There it is, it's in my discord, X much point add-ons, it'll always be there.
Weak oras do not work if they're broken.
I feel like if something feels stronger, faster, probably this means they're ensuring
it because they feel very similar.
Right, right.
At the very least, it's close enough to where you would need to go and think about it in
double check.
It's not so obviously stronger or weaker to where you're like...
You know, it's close enough to where it encompasses what it should.
It feels how it should.
Feel since right meter, I don't know.
Bro, DirectX 11 picks the whole game for me. Really? I'll try it.
Actually, does it look different with this?
Something looks different now.
Yeah, the shadows don't look as good.
I need my shadows back.
Yeah, there we go.
Well, maybe not.
My FPS is the same either way though, so I don't know.
Let's take on 12 for now.
Okay, we need lots of Gore Tusks.
secondary lighting from hidey-goode
Don't know if that change anything either but send it man. Oh well. What the heck? What's that?
Can you explain the blue spots on the map it's where I have a quest objective basically
What's up with the road comma points haven't seen it you need to reload for that ps. Yeah, I know
Yeah, just spam 11
What's my FPS on retail, I don't know exactly but I think like a couple hundred
Someone pointed out that like it's kind of cool the quest helper doesn't tell you where everything spawns but instead like a general area
It's actually kind of nice
It's just a retail quest helper, yeah, yeah.
Gortosk Snow, Ogrum or Laka.
Beimos, thanks for prime.
I don't like the render scale thing, nah.
Slash console, ffx, glow zero.
Doesn't seem like that works, no it doesn't.
Bye ma, thanks for the crime.
Ily Day, thanks for the crime.
Yeah, this is fog off. That's fog on
Look all these flight paths guy there the guy there guy there guy there
there. Launch of Boars.
Hey, mouse or the quest?
That's new.
What do you need, Mr. Mouse?
Get the mouse a cookie.
I need a cookie.
Uhhhhhhh.
Alright, yeah, we'll figure that out for sure.
I updated my drivers and I doubled my FPS.
Interesting.
Josh, thanks for the problem, man.
Yeah, I didn't like Runner's Skill 98 personally.
Oh, Impua Dagger, Impua Staff. Oh, interesting.
The mage imbues only work on specific weapon types, like shill knife is only a dagger, and lesser flame is only a staff.
I don't- I'm trying to think if I even like that.
Maybe two niche, yeah. There's a new Nvidia driver out, really. I might check that out, not right now, but like, tomorrow or something.
Maybe that new NVIDIA trivers will fix it.
Shift M to open minimap?
Nah, I don't like it.
Mana's not an issue.
Mana reach and might be slightly higher, it's hard to tell.
I think it's pretty similar though.
Type slash plate?
ten hours right now. Nine hours forty-nine minutes so it's almost identical to what it
would normally be.
Oop, that mines better.
Do I use max camera zoom? Nah.
Why do the animations look scuffed? They look pretty decent to me.
No, I'm choosing an add-on for it, X-Mationpoint add-ons guys.
Hey, what up, Proximo?
How's it going?
Iron Forged Dungeon. I did it like an hour ago. I might do it again, but I already did all the quests. I definitely wanted to do Dead Minds.
Do you think you'll hit 60 before finishing all the zones with all the new added stuff?
Yeah, I think the point is like there's gonna be now a surplus of things to do to hit 60.
So every time you do an alt you'll level in a slightly different way
Whereas before there was just enough so you had to do everything so
In you know in the past you can really skip zones or skip content or skip anything like that
It was just like every single quest in the game you had to do but now it's like you can you can change it up
Which actually like I actually think that's cool. Yeah different paths for different characters. I think it's really sick
This guy's name is literally unkillable, nice.
The sound effects sound about the same except the water one, but they're working on that.
What talents am I gonna pick?
I'll probably go Frostbolt, Permafrost, Frostfly, and Ice Lance.
What's my second name in the game?
My second name is Prime.
Yeah.
Erlachai Okra.
Tsar.
Oh, this guy.
Yo, yo.
Just talking about you a second ago, man.
Oh, five mobs.
Five mobs.
Health pot.
Okay, so five is undoable without a health pot.
If I had Eureka, five is actually probably doable.
But I'm level 15 and they're level 13s.
Which I think is about the same on ERA.
Why do you have six bags instead of five?
The last slot is a mining pack.
So we can only hold like my mining pick and stuff like that.
Oh, Hellstone, thanks bro.
Yo, Marcy, 5 gifts in, thank you very much.
Invite to Guild, anyone in the Guild can Invite, guys.
Why does my head turn and I'm looking at something?
Yeah, that's definitely a new feature, I think.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not noticing it now.
Did I not do that?
Maybe not.
I think it does sound on retail though.
You have to target something, yeah, I don't know.
Is this better than Titan Forge?
I never played Titan Forge, so I can't really answer your question, but it's like I watched
Try and forge and this seems way better.
Is there new boats?
Yes.
Stormwind has a new boat.
Oh nice, we have four life other.
I might save my life.
Stormwind has two new boats.
a steam weedle new boat for horde and then south shore as a boat and then like
river glades as a boat going to it I think
are you decided to play mage as a main I think I probably will man I just you
I'm- I'm a mage.
One worry for me about Stormwind Boat is many they might be left to now, but overall excited by the content.
Hellstone, crit.
Yeah, definitely died there without a health stone.
That's five mobs.
So four is doable.
Five is a lot of stuff.
That was no Eureka too though.
Do you think there's actual potential for mage changes so the rotation becomes slightly
more complex. I don't know. At this point, before launch, I don't know. We'll see.
I
Hire this guy blizzard he is him, you know you want to do something funny
If I was hired to fix major rotation, I legitimately don't know what I would do
So yeah, don't hire me definitely don't hire me I
Don't know how to fix it to where it's like
I have some ideas, but I don't like any of them to be honest
Yeah, you have your endgame rotation already.
Yeah.
Oh, I can see trappers underneath the world.
Weird.
The 40-yard nameplates are going through the world.
Oh, actually, I think that was a setting.
Show off-screen nameplates.
Yeah.
I'll take that off, actually.
The auction house is the retail one.
Dude, that's good.
There's a lot about retail I don't like, but I love the retail auction house, man.
It is awesome.
No scampos?
Yeah.
Can't scam anyone.
You just full send.
It's great.
Classic Auction House is not useful without add-ons. Yeah, I mean, there's some good add-ons for it, but dude, the retail one doesn't lag at all.
Because like when you use Auctionator for the Classic Auction House, it works. It's good, but it's like so laggy.
You know, you have to like scan, it takes forever. The retail one works like Auctionator with no lag.
So it's just like amazing.
Look at the water. Yeah, seriously, bro. Seriously
Yeah, I mean bro look at this
It like
Did you ever think you know what I mean
That is crazy.
I never thought bro, I never thought.
It's actually funny too, out of all of these discussions about Classic Plus over the last
year, year and a half, the one thing I never asked for or even talked about or even mentioned
was, oh man, I want some really cool, updated water.
But man, is it cool.
Campfires are sick, yeah.
Yo, what up, Triumph?
How's it going?
Not even one time?
Yeah, not even one time was I like,
Oh man, I really want a shadow update, but I'm not that it looks good.
Scroll of Minor evocation.
We'll take that.
I like that a lot.
Yeah, I did the new Ironforge dungeon. That thing is sick.
I mean, as sick as a level 15 dungeon should be.
It is awesome.
Look like a little mini BRD in there, man.
If you have not done it, I would highly recommend.
That's an evo scroll. It's cool. Can't use it in combat, not 2-0-p.
Adds flavor. I like it.
I have not done Lordaeron.
Maybe my next character, I actually will do Undead Pally. We'll see.
My FPS is like 70 right now, which is a little on the low end, compared to what I normally play on, so...
incoming all the reload to fix the comments
reload to fix FPS yeah any 99 parts yet for iron fork dungeon I mean I hit the
99 for sure so I know what's possible I might do it again actually not a little
15
Game as a memory leak. Yeah
Okay, so we actually have all the core tusks now, it's when you mean okra and stringy vulture meat send it
Did this quest never tell you where to get the okra from?
It just has three stringy vultramid, three gorgeous snouts, three more like eyes and
three okra.
I never told you where to go.
Yeah, no, it's from the harvest golems, right?
But why isn't it in the quest?
I swear it like said, I swear it like in the past it said like where to get them from.
No way to move the packs yet, we'll need an add on I think.
Ooh, new quest item that's dropped here.
Definitely need to pick that up.
Okay.
And then I just need a few more Gortos livers
and some stringy Vulture meat.
Our attunement's in play, I think so.
Don't forget you put vulture me in the bank. Oh, did I?
If you choose PvP at the beginning can you change to PvE after I don't think so at least easily maybe at some point
They'll introduce realm transfers, but I don't think that's even out
New quest didn't even read I
I think it's yeah literally it's a turn in
We're gonna bring it to him at the farm
Baginator is there now. Oh is it you know I might need baginator is that already working?
Just not even could like this one owns for just to move it man
Slash played us about 10 hours
Let's see what's going on here.
Okay, Gortosk livers and Vulturemeat.
It's male instant between characters, I would assume, but I don't know.
That quest is the same on ERA?
Okay, good to know.
Harvesting the harvesters wants you to bring 8 Golem ISO Springs 4 copper modulators in
a crude scope.
Oh, it's like an engineering quest.
Hmm interesting.
Oh cool.
But I would need to actually make a crude scope for this. Sweet. I like that. I like like
What is it called? Profession based quest. That's sick. Grotto stays the prime. Can you turn on auto cell drunk?
I don't know about auto cell trunk, but there is a cell trunk button, which is nice
incoming comments about how I said button in three two one
Hello, you have it up, right get litrix plus does it exist?
What are you doing the next giveaway any second now?
Oh, thanks babe.
Got a protein shake from Shan, W for Shan and Chet.
doesn't work right now yeah should be good then
hmm
hmm
hmm
Marrier if we weren't already married I would definitely definitely Marrier
Mmm
Guys this is so good we're gonna have to another giveaway this one is like we gotta send it
Let's give another beta key away guys is a beta key forever beta two in the chat to join the beta key giveaway
Beta key giveaway forever beta tool in the chat
YouTubers I love you guys, but is a twitch only giveaway just because
If you went on YouTube, I don't have a way to whisper you or message you to tell you you won and to give you your code
So I do the giveaways on twitch just because it's easier to
message someone that won their code
but
If you want to come over to which make an account just type forever beta 2 in the chat you can do that
Not cool, sir. Hey, don't blame it on me. You got to blame it on YouTube for not having a message system
Yo guys my tooltips aren't showing when quest items drop anymore
Like the Gortusk, for example, drops the Gortusk Liver,
but it doesn't tell me it drops on the tooltip.
It was like that earlier today.
See, it just dropped a quest item.
Is there like a setting for that?
Like quest, drops or something?
It doesn't work because it's a cooking quest item.
Interesting.
Like same with stringy vulture meat. I have the same problem. It was working earlier today
I want skill very low here very low one skill
Very low one skill.
Okay, well roll the giveaway and just a second here guys, after I kill this flush trooper.
Try to run this.
I just ran that, didn't change anything.
Alright.
Beta key giveaway.
We're gonna give it away in just a second here. Good luck, Have Fun.
Forever baited two in the chat guys. If you don't win, we'll get more away.
Once it hits 2,000 users, so any second now.
Alright, five, good luck, four, good luck, three, good luck.
Two, one, good luck.
yeah sleepness six month follow sleepness are you here you just won a beta key to
game up with I'm lol no way I'm here sleepness prove to me you're not a bot
somehow some way say something about could not say
Not a bot, dad enjoyer of the stream AI sucks, alright this guy seems pretty legit
He's a 6 month follower, alright we full send it
I'm gonna DM you the code on Twitch right now congrats and enjoy the beta maybe I'll
see you on
Guys if you didn't win we'll give another coat away soon
Cool there it is sent it over man enjoy joy
Yep
Stringy Vultrami, Gortus Livers, Keeps Ennin'
Picks Hair? How we lookin'? How we lookin'?
Yo, thanks for subbing man, appreciate ya.
Now we started fresh in November, guys.
I can't believe it's really here.
YouTube, I can't believe it's really here.
YouTube Hulk?
Y'all, thanks for selling, bro.
Someone on YouTube said I should just pick a random person
on YouTube and give it to them.
I literally can't because I can't message people on YouTube.
The only way I could give one on YouTube away is just
by posting one in the chat, which, hey, I could.
I could just post one in the chat and whoever gets it
first gets it.
Like I'd rather like actually do a giveaway.
YouTube has DMs now?
I don't know how.
Try to click on their name doesn't work.
I don't know where to like whisper them.
Maybe on my phone or something?
I don't know.
Brother, hold!
Yo, what up Savics?
What's good, man?
Dude, how good is this game?
Like actually, oh you raided me, I didn't even notice.
Terrible streamer, absolutely terrible streamer.
Hey Savics, thanks for the raid.
Remember, hold!
Dude, Sav, we made a guild, just called it forever hype.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Oh my gosh.
10 out of 10, I'm loving it.
Yo Sav.
Can I call you, are you busy?
You're probably busy, I was gonna call you to like
talk for a few minutes, you probably have to go.
Does it feel like better to you than when we played before?
Like it feels like really good.
I don't know what it is.
You're echoing?
Echo, echo.
Twitch Prime.
Twitch Prime, Twitch Prime.
No, I'm not.
Don't see an echo.
Hopefully not.
It feels like better than when we last played.
I don't know.
Dude just has you up on two tabs. Oh, yeah, you probably have me up on Savics's tab and
this tab. Yeah, thanks for the bids brother. Appreciate you.
So guys, I feel like this is the game that I'm going to be playing for the next, like
it's here.
Man, this is the game we're going to be playing.
I'm going to be playing, I don't want to speak for everyone.
I'm going to be playing for the next long time.
Of course there'll be like content patches and downtime, but I think what I'll probably
do is this, play this game until I'm bored and then play it on hardcore until
there's a new content patch.
Then there's a new content patch, we play the new content, and then when I'm bored, do it on hardcore.
So I'll have like a hardcore account and a normal account, and I flip flop. Hardcore is downtime, nothing to do, beat it without dying.
And without that, we play normal. Back and forth.
Yo, bots in the chat, the giveaway is over. We're not doing a giveaway right now.
So, bots, you do not have to spam, there is no giveaway happening.
Do you guys think those are bots or do you think those are real people that are just like a little, you know?
Dude arcane missiles being bugged. It's actually kind of nice. It's a buff man
Did I miss all the things yeah, I'll do it again though. We'll also upload it on YouTube. It was it was dope
It was it was really good it's like as good
Of a level 15 dungeon to look how good this game looks. Oh my gosh
It's as good as a level 15 dungeon like could be like you wouldn't even want it any better
Like I mean, okay. You okay. What I mean by that. Let me explain this
is, is you don't want a level 15 dungeon to feel like you're beating the game, you don't
want a level 15 dungeon to feel like you're doing something incredible, because for at
the end of the day you're level 15.
So it's as good of a level 15 dungeon like it should be, right?
You can't like...
You know what I mean?
I'm trying to think of an example.
Think about like if a level 15 dungeon was like
Icecrown Citadel.
Like no, dude.
Like no, like no.
You need to like work to get there.
I know what you mean.
Okay, nice dude.
We got a super chat from Big Bang.
He says, love the stream.
You have more energy than any other streamer.
You watch your attitude and talk with us.
Yo, I try my best.
I actually feel like I need to apologize.
I don't know if you guys could tell.
I don't like talking about this, because it's annoying.
But yes, guys, I am sick.
I'm trying my best to just push through
and completely not even think about it,
because this is not the day to be sick.
This is not the day at all to be sick.
but I definitely have like 30-40% lower energy than normal if you if you're
looking at me and you're like why is this guy seem a little more miserable
than normal that's why I'm like trying my best here guys trying my best anyway
I'm gonna try this pull here
The blizz blue? Yeah. Probably. Uh oh. I'm dead I think. Oh someone has healed me. Someone
has healed me again. Wow I don't know why I thought I could kill all these. That guy
didn't heal me I was definitely dead. Thank you. Saved. Holy crap.
100% dead if that guy doesn't just come out of nowhere. Oh, I don't have frost armor on either. That's why I was like, why am I just dying?
Well, if I'm up for one sec guys, I need some mana, all right
Blizzard snares nerfed. Yeah big time. We'll see how a week or any feels
Yeah, yeah, dude, if if classic forever wasn't literally out on beta like today, I would be in bed
unconscious sleeping
So that's what's happening, but it's all good man, you know could be way worse
I could be like like really not feeling well. I'm just like not feeling very well, but I'm trying to do two is every time
I cough I mute it like this
So you guys don't even hear anything you see what I'm saying
I have like a cough button, so I've been leaning on that all day long. So anyway, we're getting through a man
Season where thanks for the five gift a man you rock
Do a giveaway on YouTube the winner has to log in the twitch to get it
Yeah, I don't know I
Mean I just gonna keep the giveaways the way they are. It's just easy. It's easy very easy
Um, I'm afraid to be hyped about forever because I'm afraid Blizzard is gonna ruin it with microtransactions
They've committed to no gold tokens or what are they called? Wow tokens and boosts
Well, they've changed their mind down the road
Hopefully not but they've said that so that's cool
They've all blizzard is also said they are going to be way harsher on gold buyers
They are trying to make the economy not suck actively
So if you're a gold buyer
They've warned you I
Even talked to soda poppin and he said I guess he's a you know
He's a gold buyer. He's bought gold in the past and he said yeah
I bought gold in the past, but it's mainly because I knew I wouldn't get banned
But no way in heck when I buy gold if I was actually risking my 20 year old account
So hopefully hopefully they actually take that serious, you know
Everyone's laughing saying it's lies
We'll see we'll see yeah, we'll see who's laughing when they do bandwaves
Maybe it is a bluff. Maybe it is. I'm not hey man. Maybe they're bluffing
Maybe they're not let's see it
As much as it's gonna suck to have someone's like oh gee account get banned like
We'll see find out. Yeah, I'm just telling you what they said on the on the podcast thing the Q&A
Who's gonna try it that's what I'm saying like yeah go ahead go for it bro. We'll see I
Would love a wow where like the economy doesn't suck like that would be rad
They said they're working on it still see Kai check. He's doing well man. He did not go to blizzcon
now although he did have a slight cameo on the stream this morning on the
starting soon if you guys were here for that probably I was six and a half
hours ago so probably none of you guys but yeah just walked into Stormwind
again oh it's the fastest isn't it slash who winter spring there's five
people now there's two people earlier
Goldpires generally have a second account and do some laundering with the gold.
Wait, how would you know?
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait, is that actually what you guys do? Is that actually the shit?
Yes, XD. Yes. Oh gosh, okay. I'm not gonna like report you guys here. I'm just
I
So no one's dumb enough to actually buy cold and their main account you actually just
River holo
Ah, hang over here, kill some more golems, do some questernins, we'll send it.
Actually I might save this quest for, well, I guess I could do this one.
The snapshotting thoughts a thing, I think so.
Quests in the middle of the fields too?
Oh yeah, you're right, burnt out remains.
Check that out.
When I logged in the servers, they gave me an option to select hardcore, yeah I think
they are testing hardcore.
So if you guys want to test it, let me know how it goes.
What version of quest do I have?
I'm not using quest, it's just default.
Burnt out remains.
Charter remains to the note service, your only guide.
Level 22.
Is yeah, someone said that's a sleeping bag quest from sod is it I?
Do you remember doing this quest in sod?
I wonder if they put the sleeping bag in like the same exact thing
When I like yo by the way, I'm not mad if they do that. There's some stuff from sod that I loved
I'm 100% gonna buy gold and risk it.
Dude, that is a choice.
I'm 100% gonna buy gold and risk it. Dude that is that is a choice
Is there an add on the high Lua errors, I haven't had any Lua errors. Yo, Paige, next to the front
We had another, oh we're very lucky, I lost him, Luhan.
Golden Kappa Train incoming, yo guys if you want a Golden Kappa you can throw a free Twitch
Prime right now.
How's Westphal treating you? It's amazing. It looks just even better than normal men.
It's phenomenal. They added Frostbolt to Warrior? Don't think so. I'm playing a mage, currently.
Well guys, enjoy your Golden Kappas. I might as well gift myself some subs to get a Golden
cap on myself. Give me a second here. And enjoy yourselves. There we go. My experiencing
lower FPS than normal, like way lower. Yeah, way lower. So apparently there's like a memory
Yeah, we got 20 gifted from soon. Thank you very much and now five gifted from Zaryu. Welcome in guys
Yeah, normally I get like hundreds of FPS higher than this so hopefully they fix that yes thing free launch I
Don't mind playing with like like 300 FPS
But I like to play like four five six seven eight nine hundred FPS a thousand plus FPS on my star forage PC
but yeah this is this is different yeah 60 FPS is different man definitely feels
like I'm playing in 2004 message anyone in the guild for a gilded invite
Arkham thanks for the five gifted Jeremy thanks for the gifted thanks to the
primes guys level nine golden capa terrain instantaneously wow shout out
Tucson Arizona what up to Tucson? Oh
Bro, oh my I feel kind of bad. I just you ain't this guy's tag
This guy's name is Gurt. Okay nevermind
rude
I'm sorry
Yeah, I'll invite this guy to the group so he gets the feel credit. Oh
He was too late
Crap that was shouldn't done that now I feel like terrible put a terrible person now man. She's
Let's find the cooling off in Arizona. I know man mid-September. This is when it gets better man
We've been waiting all summer for this man Marcy 10 gifted subs. Thank you very much doctor with a one gifted sub
Schmos over the tier one
If you re-log your FPS will be good again.
Yeah.
For like a minute then it's just not good again again.
The thing about Arizona is like when you have kids at least, it's like, like I like
taking my son to like the park or like going on a walk, but in the summer it's too hot
So you might think, okay, yeah, we'll enjoy your winter then.
The problem with the winter in Tucson
is that at 6 p.m. or 6 30, it's dark outside.
No, it's not too cold.
It's actually nice.
The winters are nice.
It's very nice, but it's just dark.
It's actually just dark outside.
So you can't go on a walk with a two year old
when it's dark outside.
I mean, you can, but it's not like they can just
be on the swing set in the dark.
I mean, you could, but you know what I mean.
So then like you wait all winter for it to be light outside, and it's light again because it's summer, but then it's too hot
It's one of the thing I don't know if anyone else is racing kids and Tucson Arizona
But that's kind of a worth we're like we're like struggling with this because it's like all summer. It's too hot and all winter
It's too dark. When do you actually go outside?
There were 20 gifted selves from Paul Grinder and five gifted from Psy-Ko
Run a level 11 hype train
Sheesh
Spring yeah, we have like one day of spring and it is nice to go outside during that one day
Just play wow forever true
Just gonna have to raise them on wow my son was actually watching me like set up for the stream this morning
if you guys saw the little cameo and starting soon with Kai he was asked oh
ding 16 ding 16 let's go he pointed at my gnome he goes he pointed at my gnome
and he goes what's that little guy and then a dwarf run ran by and he goes who's
that little guy. So funny man. Oh my gosh. I was a kid that was racing Tucson and was
not fun. Yeah I was racing Tucson too. I know what you're talking about. It's different.
Very different. Yeah when you're a kid you're in Tucson it's like. The problem
is if you if you're if you're a kid in Tucson it's the same thing I just mentioned except worse
because when you're um when you're a kid in Tucson
you have summer off for school so you have three months of no school but it's in the summer
so you can't actually go outside in the summer here it's way too hot I mean pretty much you
can't so you basically have to stay inside all summer and then right when it starts to get nice
you go back to school. So it's like it's brutal to be a kid here for sure. And that's how you
become a rank 1 mage. Yeah, I don't know if I would be a 20 plus time rank 1 player if I wasn't
raised in Tucson. Like no troll. That might have enabled me a little bit. Low 5 potatoes is
how do you feel about the camping debuff? Feels bad leaving town to 15 minutes left on it and
I can't refresh it. Oh, that's an interesting question
Yeah, maybe they don't need a debuff
How do you guys feel about that? That's actually kind of true
You have like two minutes left. We have to just like wait for it to expire
People are saying you can refresh it. Oh, we'll try
The debuff is only for the rest of XP
But what but what's the point of the debuff then?
I'm so happy for a while forever my friends that player srs will finally give it a chance
BC of the horizontal progression no way blizzards are gazzam wait are there runescape andes in
here raise your hand if you're a runescape andy are you guys coming in for forever is
there any of you they'll watch during the runescape days when I was doing a some
fire cave this and that maybe from runescape oh my gosh okay we have some runescape
And these guys blizzard copied the runescape marketing with that your progression matters
They literally had the same marketing you know how runescape goes your progression matters
That's blizzards marketing for this game your progression matters
Like so runescape guys. I mean, this is this is the time to shine. I know Sardocco is checking this out
She wanted his runescape community
We'll see.
Does it feel weird not going um?
Mana is actually more similar than you would think.
Like I think mana is a little bit higher, but I'm level 16 killing one maw at a time,
you know, drinking between each pull.
Mana is very similar.
We got five gives it some TX boot.
Thank you very much.
We'll see how horizontal Prague works with tier sets.
True.
Oh wow.
Oh this guy's giving us higher level water.
I only have like two spots though.
Hold up.
You want some milk and fresh bread in return?
Oh someone brought up a good point.
It probably feels that way because the water ticks immediately.
That's not streamer benefits.
was a legitimate trade I gave him some I don't even remember I gave some milk or
whatever and some bread and he gave me some some purified water oh you know
what I think it is because the tix system's gone
Yo, this new lighting is insane. Yeah, I know man. How good is this?
Because you can just sit down for a second and get mana right away
Guys can we confirm five second rule is in the game, I'm like 99% sure it is
But ticks aren't I'm pretty sure it is I guess I could check
3, 4, 5.
Yeah, it is.
It like totally is.
And then this will stop it again.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
I should get reach end now.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Test it.
You're the one playing.
I just don't know if someone else had nerded out on it before.
So 5 second rule is in the game, which is great.
But ticks so aren't.
Stroll over mana on your character pain.
I think since I have this add-on it's not showing.
Yeah I don't know.
I think because I have this add-on it's not showing.
It's not a die there, jeez.
Wow legacy
No, I don't think that's what they're trying to encompass. They're not trying to encompass
legacy. They're trying to encompass like some good stuff from old but like adding a novelty
P2.
Yeah, I don't know, it's kind of like bugged out.
Can you still make me spend another 13 bucks?
Yo, thank you for the prime.
What do you mean by that?
Did I miss a donut or something?
Oh, Warcraft is in here dropping more codes. Good luck, guys.
I'm going to turn off the classic UI add-on real quick just so I can see what you guys
are talking about.
So in the new character sheet when you mouse over mana, it literally says replenishes automatically
after not spending mana for 5 seconds.
This is actually one of the really, really, really cool things about Forever is that these
things are explained in the game.
Under Agility, it'll tell you exact, right?
Under Ant, it'll tell you exact.
Under Crit, it'll tell you exact.
Spell and healing crits are 50% more effective. Most periodic effects can crit. Spell damage.
Longer cast times typically benefit more from spell damage. They explain defense. Critical
strikes from creatures deal 200% damage. Dodge. Dodging nullifies the attack. Armor. Resistances.
That's actually a W. That's actually sick.
It's very cool.
Okay, I'll try to change some questions.
All right, should we do another giveaway?
Let's see if the pot starts spamming right when I said the word giveaway.
Let's see if there's pots.
I mean none of them said anything, nice.
Arcane Wrath Trousers, sick.
Let's go to Town and Fender up and do another giveaway.
All right.
The last giveaway we did was forever- wait, what was the last giveaway we did, guys?
Was that Forever Beta 2 last time?
Okay, so we're going to do Forever Beta 3 this time.
Forever Beta 3.
You know what, let's change it up to confuse the bots.
Let's do forever hype three.
Eh?
Forever hype three.
Good luck guys.
Forever hype three.
Type forever hype three to join YouTubers.
This is a Twitch only giveaway just because
I need a way to message someone when they win.
And I can't message people on YouTube.
So if you want to join the giveaway,
you come over to Twitch,
type forever hype three, then you're entered.
Okay, so we'll get a bunch of quests here light path. I don't have it and pender up turn it everything. I
Kind of want to do deadlines to see if there's like a
well
Kind of do want the deadlines pre-quest to I want to see if they change anything in the deadlines
I'm a little low level, but maybe not. I mean, I'm a mage I can sheep
Okay, nice. Let's get the flight path here. Null pause, trappers, smugglers. Yeah, I definitely
you should do these pre-quests.
You make Donald's hairline?
All right, man.
Glad you're enjoying.
That's a sub.
Okay, that's really fine.
All right, we'll just give away
in just a second here, guys.
Type just forever hype three in the chat.
Once it gets to,
we'll do 2,000 users again like last time.
Forever hype three in the chat
for the beta key giveaway.
If you win, you can play the beta.
we can do a dungeon together. Maybe we can came up together. It has been very very very
very fun.
Okay, what are we at 1750? Okay, we'll roll this in like a minute then
Yeah, you can play hardcore on the beta, but I actually don't want to play hardcore. I want to test out like everything first
Actually, maybe I could play hardcore and if I die then keep playing
Even think of that because you can transfer when you die, right?
Okay, Morse code, thanks for the prime.
Maybe I should make like a hardcore tune.
I'll make a ton of tunes on the beta guys.
I'll make at least a mage, a warrior, and a pali, but probably more considering it
only takes two days to hit max.
I'll probably make maybe a rogue as well, maybe a priest as well.
just keep messing around. Hold on. So slash set.
So I'm not getting my campfire buff and I'm slashed sitting
Okay, I got it now it takes like 10 seconds to get it
But then I started crafting this and now I stood up and I don't have my buff anymore
Guys am I am I low IQ be honest why like?
Slash sit
So when I slash sit, I wait, I get the buff, I have the buff, and it says, I think I should
be able to craft this, right?
When I start crafting, I lose the buff.
I thought for sure, oh, after a minute you can stay.
I swear before I was standing like yesterday
and I kept the buff,
but now when you stand up from seated, it doesn't.
Weird.
It worked for me yesterday too, but not today.
Yeah, I don't know if they changed it.
Huh. Yeah, I don't know. Yesterday it worked fine. Anyway, we'll just AFK for a sec. Alright
guys, we'll roll this. Good luck. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Good luck. Have fun. Sweetie. Followed
And one year ago, SWITTY123, congratulations, do you want a key, a beta key, that is, 2D.
Plastic Forever Beta.
Yes, plus.
That's not a bot.
I know that's not a bot.
Congrats man.
I'm gonna send it over right now, enjoy.
Guys, if you didn't win this one, we'll do more, so don't worry.
Okay, we'll be doing more.
We'll continually do more.
do another one as the day goes. I send it over on twitchtm's, enjoy.
Yeah
Move this way
Hi order Truid I order sky born Truid y'all do this guy
this guy's good you can just tell by the way he moves see that are you guys
soon and I'm soon read lay line
Oh
That resist guys that's a resist
Okay this guy, this guy played pretty well, okay?
Played pretty well.
Health and mana regenerate increased by 100%.
Wonder how good that is.
Washed up.
Guys, this guy is not washed up.
This guy is as good as I ever remember him.
He played really well.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
I'm going to do them again though, because I got to test other stuff.
Okay, here we go.
I actually want to test some tech here.
Oh
It's arcade missiles fixed actually it actually might be hotfixed. It's not working out was guys. So I was testing something
Look guys. I was testing. I'm a beta tester
It's fixed now which is good I reported it earlier
Oh and two no no as we're not keeping count
That's the whole point of classic forever is there's no count keeping if we wanted to keep count
we be in retail guys that's the whole point we're not sweating anymore we're
not parsing we're not keeping count of win-loss dual ratios we're not going for
20 plus rank one titles we're having fun I have one more duel come on we got this
guy we got this guy there's no way
I'm locked in now there it is
All right, now now now what I'm gonna show you guys is
Something that I have taken a long time to show you guys. I've been streaming for 14 years
This is the first time I'm going to show you guys a brand new lesson.
Never before seen here on the stream.
This is how you gracefully take a loss.
She D.
And you walk away.
Right. That's how you do it. Okay.
Not that we'd actually lose a duel.
But if you do lose a duel, now you know how to. Okay.
Brand new lesson here.
I've never showed you guys that before because you've never lost a duel, which I mean I wouldn't have lost that guy either
If I wasn't wanting to show you guys this
But like I said, it's a beta stream. We got to we got to test out some new stuff stuff
We haven't done before like lose
Very graceful. Thanks, man. So humble. No problem. I got you guys
Do you need any other tips on on how to lose go check out peekaboo stream?
Until then we're gonna only win from here on out
Let's keep watching. Let's keep gaming. Alright, let's go, let's go trap her smuggler. This
guy wants to duel. He's a paladin. There's no way we lose to a paladin. There's no way
we're losing to a paladin. Bubble. He cancels the bubble instantly. Missed my sheep. Hodge.
Oh gosh. Bad start. Awful start.
Bro, by the way, guys, you can see buffs and debuffs in a duel without Detect Magic.
That is, that is crazy, okay?
That is crazy that we can do that now.
lay on hands brother I respect that not I mean not really but that is I mean
that is something
Is the dual radius larger?
Like why is it not saying like please return to the dual area?
Let's see if this guy
learned how to gracefully lose from me earlier. Boom!
See that guys? GD! This guy's a watcher of the stream you can tell.
He learned. He learned.
One out of three guys we're not keeping score.
If we were keeping score, I would just drill a bunch of low levels. Okay. Are you gonna play hardcore on launch? Yes
You beat him like that sure would beat you
Sure, we didn't beat me I let him beat me because I wanted to show you guys what it was like to lose
Is FPS so bad? Yeah. Incoming reload comments in three, two, one.
You got a re-log, bro?
Yeah.
fix is it oh thanks guys I don't know if ads are gonna hit in a second but it'd be
unfortunate if they did weird okay we're no trappers smugglers next um
perfect let's go over here star alien bro how good is first name last name for
role players look at this guy's name is Torville iron heart and he's in a
guild name Ironforged. This could straight up be an NPC. Look at this guy. Tor-Fuel-Ironheart.
You, sir, are a legend.
I love this game.
Cool name, I really like it, big fan.
Telling AI he's a legend this guy is not AI absolutely not
Rock and stone
See this guy's committed to the character. Why did you not roll on a role-play realm dude? Oh, there's no RP realm
What do you say to rock and stone if you're like a role-player
there. Ice and fire. I don't know guys. I don't know. Because I'm a mage. I don't know.
Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Okay, let's get it.
I got this. 100% I have this next tag.
This guy's name is Zardu.
Okay. Yeah, what up, Zardu?
Blood and thunder.
Dude.
Full Grim is challenging to a duel.
Who's Full Grim?
I have Resic.
Level 18 dwarf shaman of Resic.
He has two levels on me though guys.
What?
He's just gonna resist two spells in a row?
What is this?
This guy would own me without resic
Classic UI forever dude if this guy didn't have resic I would a hundred percent lose
Miss
Yeah without resic this guy owns me like he almost beat me with resic
That guy's a beast
Shaman's a ropy that's what's going on I
Had to hop in over here from YouTube to try for the giveaway. We're not doing one right this second, but we will soon
You have 20 rank ones over him you're fine that is true. We have a hunter wants to duel up
It's not a big deal guys.
It's not a big deal.
Do you guys have any questions on how that tool just went down?
Let me know.
No good duel from me.
It's not, you don't want to say good duel if you won.
Oh, he said he said good do okay
Guys dueling etiquette you say good duel as the loser if you say good duel as the winner it's like
It's like patting yourself on the back if you say GD as a winner
It's like basically like doing something and being like yo nice job to yourself. It's like dude
Yeah, but he said it so I did say I said I said it back now
Very different
Bronx wants to duel me again. Oh, it's the same hunter as last time. Okay, here we go.
Oh, crap. This guy's gonna own me now.
This actually was a good duel, but I'm not gonna say it because that would be messed up
Good duel. All right. She said it first now. I'll say it second good duel. Back at you, bro
All right
For all you guys keep in count. What are we at? Not that we're keeping count because this is not about keeping count. Oh
So now now no one in the chat is keeping count now that we're positive. Okay, nice
nice guys cool real real nice guys
sky pops evasion sketch send him a sheep
It's gonna chill for a sec.
I'm kinda hungry anyway.
Harpy break.
We knew it was gonna break, so we sent the pre-sheep on the harpy.
He has no escape hard as anymore.
It's over.
There we go. Guys, we're not keeping score. We do not have to type 5-3 in the chat. Do
not type 5-3 in the chat, because we're not keeping score. This is wow forever, not wow
for sweats okay trappers and smugglers
Bro, I'm never gonna finish the quest here.
With your level 20 business, bro get out of here with that.
Invite for quest plicks.
you very very much. Let's farm this thing. Pro, we gotta get this guy in our group.
things are it's a level 16. Yeah this is playing like a lot of different characters though man
it's a thing. Lots of different ones. Yo mage players out there you guys liking it?
You're having fun? Or are you like kind of secretly wishing you're an undead paladin
to be honest? Having fun? Yes it's okay just at 18 loving it? Mages good? Like it?
I'm having fun, I'm having fun.
It's simple but we're playing plastic, right?
If I recommend mage gameplay in forever, I think the leveling...
experience is gonna be really great as a mage you're gonna be good in dungeons
you're gonna be good solo you're gonna be good in like world PvP even leveling up
like the only thing about mage I'm worried about is endgame PvE being one
button kind of like shadowbolt for locks you know or like I would like two or
three right maybe even four so that's that's what I'm mostly concerned about
it's not the leveling it's not the PVP I'm mostly concerned about like and game
rotation contra water nice bro true though
Do I like warriors? I love warriors, yeah.
Well, you have two buttons because the Ice Lance is true.
I'm sure any over endgame rotation. I agree. I agree. I
Agree
If I play a mage, I have fun the whole way to 60 and the only complaint I have is in my raids
I'm pressing only one button. I
Suppose it's fun. I'll just make an alt to raid on and my mage shall just have fun one to 60, you know
The co-arkane you get to yeah with the arcane you arcane blasts into missiles arcane blast
arcane blast arcane blast missiles arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast
missiles. The quest helper is back on the bottom right.
tips. I must be blind. I must be completely blind here. You know what? Never mind. Never
mind. I leveled up to 20 to make some tea I came back and I got banned. Wait really?
for what? For the tea?
Rampage, thanks, Leprime.
We've seen one more smuggler one more
I see sleeping bags from the game I haven't on the quest yet, but I kind of saw yeah
How many giveaways do you have left? I don't know exactly maybe like 10
I'll be doing more tomorrow too though
Okay, Gigi's I'm out of here, okay, so let's do some nolpalas and then we'll do people's
militia round two we're getting like dangerously close for the deadmines
boys rain and bells more looks so good dude I'll need to head over there
Oh, yeah, tomorrow's Saturday, rip.
That new dungeon is so good, it is so good, man.
I kinda wanted to do the new dungeon again to be honest.
To the understeady one, can you sneak in there as Zala?
Can you get in there as Zala?
Yeah?
Oh, you can?
What level is it at?
It's just right in the courtyard so you literally just run in.
Yo, why didn't you guys tell me sooner?
Goodness gracious.
Actually, thank you for not telling me.
You guys are not spoiling my playthrough.
Um, yeah, let's go do that.
I need to get over there.
Um, so I'll probably take a boat or something.
Okay, give me a second, we'll head over there in just a sec.
Stormwind portal to Valoran.
I don't know if I like Stormwind Portal to Dalaran.
I feel like too many portals around the world is actually a mistake.
How do you get those tan lines looking so creamy?
Tan lines?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Here's the 7
It's just for skyborne getting to the continent wait storm went to Dalaran's for the skyborne what do you mean?
I respect free on the beta not that I know of
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
one she okay
Okay, so after this I'll fly to Stormwind, I'll take the Dalaran Fortal Ophir and we'll
just make a group when we're up there.
Oh my gosh guys, the game looks so good.
Look at this.
Bruh.
You never played retail before?
Retail does not have this.
Retail does not have this water?
I'm sure retail andes wish they did.
Actually they probably will put this water on retail.
There's no way they don't.
this water is so insane the lighting too it's forever only yeah like right now
forever actually looks better than retail but I I would assume this will all
come to retail there's no way they don't bring this over they'll 100% get this
yeah but I think it's was funny is that right now classic out actually
looks better than retail and retail will get all this I'm sure but like they
have to wait well the classic game he's got a first it's actually kind of
crazy retail ended here can't confirm I wish we had this yeah I'm sure you guys
will
guaranteed it'll it'll it'll come to retail there's no way they're just like
oh yeah forever only like don't don't think so it'll probably come in the
next expansion or whatever
I want to keep like most of this stuff here.
Tortus liver? Do I need that still?
Bro, my bags are full.
Okay. Go underwater now and watch. I'm gonna farm these spawns one sec. One gold already?
Yeah. There's natural bull makers over here. Lobo takes the front.
Oh crap, that'd be bad.
If you're about the journey, you're gonna love this man.
I used a small pot here, could've used a big one, but decided the small one's gonna be
fine, I did the math on my head, oh, the small one was fine.
Badda, thanks for the prime.
Gosh it looks gorgeous it looks gorgeous man I like I could literally grind here all day
Oh, it looks so good
Road trick. Thanks for prime.
Is this the WoW Forever beta? Yep.
Almighty MJ, thanks for the prime.
How would you feel about more character customization options? I play with the OG
standard definition models, so I'm fine with none.
If they added in new ones from retail, it would probably be the HD ones, and I don't even
play on HD so it doesn't matter for me. Oh wow nice we're done. Can you show me your
talent points? Yeah I don't know it's gonna be the best but I just have Frostbould and
permafrost I'm gonna go frost fight the nice lands
Do I have a spammable one macro? Yeah, but it's not working so I'll have to fix it later
Go under water
I've been underwater many times this ruler. I don't know
Yeah, I was going to but now we're like this far which is pretty far
Dika scared a duel you I know it's fine it's always that way it's not a big
deal guys don't don't shame him or anything how do you fix the one macro
I don't know this this doesn't work it's not
spammable this way I don't know if anyone else has a one macro Fernando
Thanks for the crumb.
A sunset?
Oh, I haven't been in a sunset.
Was it some secret underwater sunset tech?
Apparently they added a baseline for the wand.
No.
It's not spammable.
What do you think of the new trees?
I think it was the same trees.
You mean talent trees?
Depends on the glass
Okay, so we're gonna turn these quests in,
we'll fly up to Stormwind and we'll hit the new dungeon.
God raise underwater, oh man, I need to check that.
Oh, yeah, class trainer. Okay, turn quest in, fly to Stormwind class trainer, then
It'll take the boat over or the port over good call good call in the class trainer. I forgot
Man, this is what makes wow such a good MMO like every time I play I just remember it's like
Right now. I want to get my class training. I want to hit a dungeon. I want to do these quests
I want to level my cooking my fishing well not really my fishing my first aid
It's like my list of my to-do list just keeps growing which is which is fun, which is awesome
Yeah, that's why we're...
My rocking any add-ons classic UI forever is the only one to make my UI look like like classic, but that's it
Hey there
All right heading off to Stormwind City
All right, well we're flying us to another giveaway
Another beta key giveaway my friends
Will do forever
forever forever for
Forever forever for
I'm trying to change it each time a little bit for the boss look at the water
Oh
Are you guys seeing what I'm seeing? Blizzard
I want to live in Elwynn Forest.
This is so good.
Oh, stormwind.
wind. Oh, it looks cool. Looks so good. Like so good, bro. All right, we're going to bank
up a bunch of stuff. We're going to go to the mage trainer and then we're going to
build up a group for the brand new under city dungeon. I don't even know what it's
apparently we can do it at level 16 we're gonna slap it I don't know if
there's quest outside or what but we're gonna have a good time let's uh guys
confirmed guild vaults oh I'm a I'm a guild owner do you wish to purchase this
tab another time guild vaults confirmed bank storage massive I'm just gonna
put all my like profession stuff in here and do it later. I'll definitely do it
later guys, definitely. Refresh now.
See you later. See you around. See you later.
Alright, fine enough. Alright, so let's go over this way. Mage training time. And then
we'll pick our winner for the giveaway. Forever, forever, four in the shaft for the
Give away.
Holy crap, that looks good.
Gosh, it looks so good!
Oh, I need to set my Hearth here before I forget.
Stormwind Hearth.
This is amazing, it feels so good. Yeah, I mean, this is...
Guys, see me the WoW?
I'm playing for a very, very long time.
This is what we've been waiting for, boys. Goodness gracious.
Light Blessing.
Mage Shower, Mage Training, Dalaran.
I'm not sure you're gonna be able to see me.
You are at Blizzard and you've been working on this for like two years
This blizzcon was like probably so hype for you
You like knew that you were about to just like break the world of Warcraft
Like I'm actually Holly like announcing this probably just like the best feeling like oh my gosh enjoy
Miss Wilson flames straight
I'll the portal doesn't work unless you're a sky born.
Okay, we'll figure that out in a second.
That actually might be good.
Wait, hold on.
Wait, is that good?
Is that pay to win?
Wait, I'm so confused.
First of all, let's do our giveaway.
All right, we're gonna pick a winner in five.
Good luck, four.
Good luck, three.
Good luck, two.
Good luck, one.
Boom.
Stewart, followed three years ago.
Stewart, I know you're not a bot
since you've been following for three years.
There's no way you're in this for the long haul.
Stuart, congratulations.
Yo, I'm gonna send you a code right now.
I'm here, brother.
Perfect. Yo, yo.
Stuart, check your DMs.
We got you with the code.
Enjoy, enjoy.
All right, give a way so ever, guys.
We'll do another one in a little bit.
Okay, so since there's no portal,
we have to take the boat.
I actually don't like portals.
I think boats are cooler for this kind of thing
to have to run together.
But,
Skyborn main city,
Valinar flies into Dalaran after finishing this Elm.
They can then pour it to Stormwind from there.
Feels, oh, interesting.
So Skyborn starting quest will take you
into Dalaran and then you can pour it to Stormwind
from Dalaran.
But then you can take the pour anytime.
That seems a little OP.
I don't know if I like that.
I like having to run, you know?
Why is my FPS so low?
I think there's like massive memory leaks.
Relogging helps it until it doesn't.
All right, guys.
We're gonna hit up the brand new dungeon
in Undercity right now.
Send me a whisper with your level and your spec.
Let's check this thing out.
I have not seen this yet.
I literally can't wait.
It should be a blast
Um, and then guys is this a level 13 to 18 dungeon again?
You guys know what level it's the under city dungeon, yeah
Under city blight blows insane. I can't wait to see it. I haven't even been on that side of the world
I literally can't wait. Oh
Wait 16 to 20
Okay, okay
Enhanced shaman let's get an enhanced shaman shrimp woman, okay
Slut okay, okay, no, I didn't know that okay, okay, okay
We did one of the Pali last time. Let's get a warrior this time
Warrior shaman
Oh
Big a who knows get you in your road warrior shaman mage we want a healer
We went a priest healer last time let's try to like non-prese healer just to see a shaman healer a druid healer a
Pally healer
I'm kind of curious
What non-priests can do here
Is our group a little weak 18 18 18 16 yeah might be a little weak
17 holy poly truant healer your priest I got the best deals, okay
I don't know level any of these guys I can heal doesn't say level can heal doesn't say level
16 probably a little higher 17 oh we get a true healer stride out
Rosalyn let's do it dead oh no that's not a good first look here not a good
first look okay um the stroller if you're still in the chat I'm gonna hop
in the water with a raise. Wait, I'm not seeing anything here. I like it. Wait, what? Do you
You want that?
Dude, the water noise is so bad.
If you guys didn't hear earlier, they already put in a new water noise in the next build.
So.
So sick.
So sick next build will have new water noises
We want the boat to south shore right how do we know which one is which
The one on the end is to Aberdeen?
Didn't his true at B230?
Nah, wasn't me.
It's just a bunch of guards. It doesn't tell me where the boat goes. Weird.
Oh, maybe I have to go to Aubergine first?
I think there's only one boat.
I'm a noob.
started today actually, on forever that is.
Headed to ruins?
Yeah, that's what I'm making my way towards, at least, it's going to be a long and rough
journey. We can go together if you like. Okay cool. Great look at that man. I would
invite this guy to our crew if it wasn't already full. Level 18, Blewed. Oh my gosh.
Oh, you can't duel in Stormwind.
I would love to duel here.
I like to be on the bottom.
Sort by group, roll alphabetical, X, X is on bottom, it's fun.
What else do we do while we wave guys?
Does anyone know how to get rid of this like, see how it's like cast, like does like a secondary cast bar on the icon itself?
And retail there's an option to turn that off, but I can't find a way to turn that off, I'm here.
Maybe there's like a console command.
The waves? Yeah dude, the waves are beautiful.
There's probably like a console command. It's been pissing me off too, really?
Can I do a planche? I used to be able to. I haven't done it in years.
I got injured doing one so it's like, not so much. It actually pisses me off hard, really.
It doesn't piss me off that bad, but it's definitely slightly annoying you know how to fix the FPS issues. I do not
Just re-logging this the only thing
Talent point check here you go
Dungeon time. Yeah, we're doing the undead dungeon.
Do you like that the game pace is slow? I love it. Like what I'm doing right now, you
would never do on retail already. You would never just like, like, I haven't killed a
mob in what 20 minutes you would never just like sit in a town and walk around and take
a boat like I love this gotta say is are you are my favorite streamer and love the stream
hey thank you so much man all aboard while I play the horde maybe on the pve realm
have you seen the influx of retail players trying to take control of the game I don't
they're trying to take control. I think they're trying to play the game because it looks really good.
And the only thing I have to say to the retail players is welcome on in. Like it's awesome that
we can have a game to maybe bridge the gap too. Obviously it's a lot more normal for classic
Andes, right? But hey, for retail players, if what you are missing is you wanted more content
and you wanted a little better graphics and you wanted updates, like you liked classic,
But you couldn't stand doing the same thing you like the slow pace, but you wanted novelty then maybe this is for you
Like you get a slow pace and enjoy ability of an of us of a classic MMO
But you get new content you get best of both worlds in a sense. So welcome in retailers, you know, it's awesome
Okay, so we took the boat here
So where's the boat then to?
Okay, so we're gonna take this boat over here and this will be a
Pheromor, then we take the boat to South Shore. Is there two more boats? We'll see
I'm having no lieu errors now
Don't these guys usually tell you where you're going if you talk to them. I don't know why they're not here
Oh, yeah, we can duel up here heavily. It's not too less shaman. Let's do all
Night Elf priests now. We're not gonna do that a guy either
Let's see human palad me outstool this guy
Oh nice why can't I use your Rika you see this I'm spamming it doesn't let me use it
clicking it doesn't work either just can't use it at all I can't use fire blast either
My Fire Blast doesn't work and my Eureka doesn't work.
I can only use Frostbolt.
I already used it.
Oh, oh, there it goes.
Now it's on cooldown.
It has to be, we'll Blame it slash Reload, and I'll do that.
That's, we'll blame that on the add-on.
I don't think that's on Blizzard's end, or maybe it is.
this Paladin is a tank.
Oh, oh, hello, Mr. Paladin.
Okay.
Oh, I just...
Yep, took him out. Easy. Easy club.
Take that.
Do you like the game this simple? I do, yeah. Yeah.
It's nice. I think Mage might be a little on the simple side, but that's okay.
I'd rather have it on the simple side than the complex side for the most part, I think.
God, and it doesn't work. I already tried it. Ryoki, thanks for the prime.
Are you decompressing your back? Did you do that? What was I doing? I don't remember what I was
doing. Was it this? Yeah, a little spinal decompression there. It's nice.
Nice.
Wait until red gets hodged in the 50s, it's gonna be GG, do you mean repentance?
I would have liked sod class design more.
Sod class design was like pretty over the edge.
It was fun in its own way, but I like this for classic plus.
Oh
HOJ hand of justice I think of HOJ is hammer of justice
What friend t-shirt is that
Actually so many people were asking about the t-shirt that we got a command for the t-shirt
We got a link in the chef or L would their L would tease enjoyment
You know proofing lots of people do 20-minute workouts. I don't know. I've actually been doing a lot of 20-minute workouts lately to be honest
You okay, sorry you've been coughing a lot to you. I'm dying over here. Yeah, I mean we're kind of hanging in there
But like kind of not to
Okay, so we want to take the boat across to here I
At the same time that we want to get the flight bath
Yeah, this is forever yes, sir
Yeah, I send the medium
Wait, what boat do we want to go to for South Shore?
My brain is like...
Oh, the same boat round Robbins U?
Oh my gosh, no way.
We miss it?
I'm going for it.
Rift
They need talk masters telling you where the boats go yeah, they actually do I wonder why that's not there
What up big dog?
Hey-oh!
We're too long in this gnome now.
Dude, new escape harness is cracked!
Whoa.
This guy slaps.
There should totally be someone right here, like called a dog master that tells you where
to go. This dock well you can catch the ship that goes to South Shore and then
stops at the night elf place after. Okay yeah I really like that they added a
dockmaster that tells you where they go. That's really nice. Good.
So it's probably just a longer wait though
Water looks amazing Wow. Yeah, it looks really good, bro
20 warrior wants to do all
of
Okay, here we go. I'm gonna save you a recap for a sec.
He's sending Eureka now that he's half.
It's my big burst here.
Oh, he messed up big time.
Hahaha
Get back here
Wait, did they fix missiles through line?
There's no way.
Or was that just out of range?
That might have just been out of range.
There's no way.
That's a war crime?
No, I think they were out.
I think he was out of range.
He was out.
There's no way.
Hold on.
Let's test this again.
Can I test with someone with missiles in line?
I guarantee they didn't fix that.
So Jalik, just stand here, Jalik.
And when I start Missiling, go there.
Yeah, exactly.
Yep.
OK.
OK.
OK, whatever, bro.
I'm going to spam Missiles on you.
Just swim under the dock.
Goodness gracious.
Absolute war crime at Blizzard.
We got a bone to pick.
WHAT THE HECK?! WHAT THE HECK?! WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!
Hold on, I'm still not convinced. I need another test. I need another test. There's no way!
What?
That's- there's no way. Hold on, let's- let me test it on this pillar here.
Okay, this guy wants a test, okay.
Alright, just come into my line and then I'm gonna missile you and then go back out of line.
Yeah, come- come into like over here? Yeah.
Bro
Dude that has been like that like the entire time since classic to retail 20 plus years. Oh
Yeah, let's fix something. Oh guys
Look clip this and name it like mage molding lull like I get it but like bro
That's also like a skill thing like you don't see a new mage ever trying to like think about yeah
Yeah, I get it guys if you're not a mage it's like okay yeah screw this class but like seriously
report that as a bug. Do you guys think that's a bug or totally intended? I would assume it's intended.
I would assume that's not a bug. That seems intended. Bug bug wait really? I feel like it's
intended I'm actually just gonna that is crazy
and
Look, if they, if they, if it's intended, I'm a little salty, but it's actually not the
end of the world.
Like it actually doesn't matter all that much.
I'm a little salty, because I think it is a cool flavor thing, but it's actually not
that big of a deal, right?
It's actually crazy though.
I feel like mage's are the only class they just straight up got nerfed.
They nerfed the AoE and the missile on Pillar, crazy.
It might be a bug, I don't know.
Major deal, is it a big deal?
I don't know, I feel like it's not that big of a deal.
If there was arenas, it would be a big deal,
but since there's no arena,
it's mainly an arena thing.
Yeah, it would affect drain life too, technically.
Imagine how bad missiles are now.
Man, I muted that cough, but that was a rough cough.
That was not good.
Yeah, missiles.
The main reason you even have them on your action bar is because they used to shoot through
a pillar.
Of course, there's also going to be missile barrage that's a little different, but that's
That's like the main reason you even have them on your action bar.
Tyler1 is coughing as well?
Did he get me sick?
Are you kidding me?
It was Tyler, dude.
How do you move the Blizzard R?
You just click on them and click hide art.
Hey, Raging.
Raging, thanks to the J-1.
Weezy, thanks for the brunt.
I love how you treat your community, not like other streamers when you group up.
You give them all a chance on loot, not like others.
Just needs on everything, even though they could do better slash salute.
Yeah, yeah.
Thanks man.
Yeah, I have a lot of experience with this.
When I build groups, I just make it so I'm the only guy that needs the caster
loot.
So I don't feel bad.
Never mind.
Glad to be back in the stream. Sick, let's move out.
We're gonna go to the brand new dungeon in the under city.
Yo, Soushore looks insane, by the way.
Are you kidding me?
Can't confirm he never invites me as a caster?
No, guys, you really think, wow, Soushore looks so good.
You guys really think I wouldn't invite casters just because I have to roll against them for
loot in a beta?
Pathetic.
Oh my gosh, the game looks so good.
Oh dude, we can run by Dalaran!
I haven't seen Dalaran!
Let's go by Dalaran. Flight path? Oh crap, I do need the flight path here, right?
We'll go, we'll take a flight path and we'll run by Dalaran and we're gonna check on their dungeon.
Bro, I mean it is just, it just looks remarkably remarkable. It's just so good.
Wait, this Warlock just said that locks can drain life through LOS, get nerfed, loser.
Wait, if locks can drain life through Lina Sight, it might just be a bug then.
It actually might just be a bug then, which is actually good news.
Okay, I'm gonna report this as a bug, surely they're gonna fix it.
Give me a second here, I don't want to get dazed by this bear.
Oh, yeah, thank you.
Wait, is that an NPC or a player?
I can't tell who's players because they have like first-last name now.
One of the ways you could tell it was an NPC in the past is first-last name.
Wait, this guy actually grieved me with that hodge, because now it leashed longer.
Okay, we're good.
Uh, report a bug.
Yep, see this?
Arcane missiles is no longer channeling if the player, if the target runs out of line of sight.
I'm sure this is just a bug.
Ha ha ha.
Ha.
Cool bug submitted got it
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
Whoa world of fog ever
Look at that guys the game looks just like
Never have I ever man this is crazy cool
Oh, is that Dalloran? Oh, that's Dalloran! Oh, that's Dalloran!
Oh. Oh.
Oh my gosh, wait, it's bigger than I imagined it.
Because the purple bubble wasn't that tall. That was- it wasn't that high in the sky.
Wait, how did they erect that all the way through the sky when it was much smaller?
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, guys, guys, Warlock, Warlock here, Warlock.
I'm dead!
Yo, yo, heels, heels!
Oh, there's a healer actually backing me up.
This guy's ganking a poor level 16, no mage.
His name is bi-
Okay, never mind, I don't know what his name is, it's bugged.
bro are you kidding me? oh my gosh
bro that is really cool
Dude
Dude
Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo, no, no, no, no, back out back out back out guys
Okay, don't go in don't go in. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're gonna die. Sorry. All right P
Yo sick
Valorant where it's supposed to be bro that's legit that is so cool that's
got to be the cool thing we've seen yet
oh my gosh
did you say you wanted to improve class graphics and classic class honestly
out of all things I was talking about over the last year or two, graphics have never been
on the forefront of any conversation.
Okay, I'll make a crazy claim right now.
As amazing as these graphics are, I mean, they're drop dead gorgeous.
Like I literally, like they're amazing.
Gameplay is still higher priority than graphics and game design decisions are still higher
priority in my opinion.
So for me, that's mainly what I focused on.
No, I never even thought about this, but I have to say it is pretty sweet.
It is pretty sweet, man. Now we get both. Uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I can't believe it, bro.
Like this is so cool, man.
Graphics look great, but the art style has to stay classic.
Well, that's what's so good about this.
the art style stayed classic they they actually managed to keep the classic
art style it doesn't look like you're just playing like a random HD game it
looks like you're playing HD wow they actually did it like that's cool that's
really cool oh my gosh this guy's a level 18 undead rogue
Oh, we just went stealth I'm gonna flamethrack him out
Yo, there's a rogue around these parts care boys I
Mean look at the water dude I
Might have to become an evening streamer just so I can look at the game at night more often. This is insane
Oh, it like hurts to look at the water because it's blinding me like in a good way.
Yeah, Blizzard cooked.
Yeah, it's official.
Blizzard cooked, guys.
Blizzard cooked.
Yup.
Dive under.
This is the world of Warcraft we're playing man.
The water glazing cannot be stopped.
Guys, in every stream you're watching right now, just perma-glazing the water, perma-glazing
the fog? Permaclacing the graphics? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, bro, it's insane.
Hey, guys, I'm almost there just working my way. They need a fog slider IMO. I actually
wouldn't mind a fog slider but there is a command to turn the fog completely off
but I actually like the fog
most of them except as fan who's been theory-crafting paladin for 12 hours
straight do I feel like paladin I'm not gonna make the claim it's perfect but I
feel like Pali got more love like do we all agree that Pali got more love
than any other class in the game. I'm not going to say it's perfect but it feels like
Pali 100% got more love than any other class. Yeah. And they needed it. I'm not even saying
it's bad. It's good. They needed it. They needed it, bro. But I feel like if you're
you're probably, I think you should be pretty happy.
Mages got nerfed, yeah.
Bro, everywhere I go, it's like I'm looking at a painting,
bro.
I'm literally gonna have to show this to Shannon tonight.
Bro I like I'm spending like my whole group is waiting for me
Yeah, sorry guys. I am over here just nerding out on the on the run over. Oh my gosh
gosh
Dude silver pine looks so good or tears fall I guess looks so good
Holy crap.
Oh, it looks so sick out here.
Dude, this is making me want to play some Horde.
This looks so sick over here.
Are you kidding me?
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, dude. The little lamps.
It feels like you're playing in a cinematic trailer.
It feels like you're playing the game like in those super six cinematics.
Oh, yeah, let's sit here and get some buffs.
Yo guys, I got you with the, uh, actually, I don't know.
of anything for you guys next time I got you I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bump
some buffs real quick next time I got you guys for sure
I'll message my group, yo guys just grabbing buffs, I need 30 seconds, chatting with some
Homies out here
Yo guys, what's up?
Once we go past the entrance there'll be lots of Hordes, okay, let's lock this in and dial it
Ok.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, guys.
Yo alliance!
Yo alliance, we have to move in together here, ok?
We're gonna have to work together here, Alliance.
Okay, we need to work together if we want to get inside.
Let's do this.
Okay.
Are we all ready here?
Yes, ready, ready.
Okay
So one at a time here guys I would arc a missile this guy to the pillar, but my class got nerfed
Oh, I'm lagging I lagged out
Okay
I'm back now, weird, I lagged.
Dude, look how cool the world looks when you're dead.
I actually haven't experienced this as much.
That's why I died on purpose there, so I can show you guys what it looks like when you're
a corpse.
It's not like foggy anymore.
You can actually see, wow this is a world of Warcraft man, best game of all time.
How did that even come up with this?
You have to get the tangster one first, true.
He totally thinks of the sub man.
Thanks for dying for us to test. No problem, bro
Petition to bring arcane missiles back through walls. Yeah
It's another different entrance for alliance what entrance do we go inside of for the alliance
Oh, is there actually a sewer entrance?
The entrance is right there where you died I
Imagine if mage's are just bad now and forever nah it's impossible
Oh, yeah, it's literally right here, oh
Barney beekeeper
No
Yeah, guys, I'll be right there
I'm just gonna show the chap what the death looks like again
A-Tar, could you show me the death run again?
I missed it.
Yeah, I got you, bro.
Instead of killing all the horde out front, I'll show you what this looks like instead.
Plane, I appreciate that, yeah, no problem.
Alliance have a way easier time hitting the undersea junction than Horde will for
the Ironforge one.
I thought you were multi-ranked when glad?
Yeah, I was showing the chat how it looks like to die since they haven't seen it yet,
at least on my stream.
Okay.
That's neutral.
I'm
The beekeeper sensor regards there's no way
way. There's no way. Is that the real pee keeper? I was assuming it was a fake. Oh gosh.
You have a hair? Okay, I'm trying to fix the hair. How's that? Are we locked in now?
Oh, okay. I was worried. I thought you lost your touch since it's been a while since you got rank one.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Dude!
There's no way are you guys trolling me how is this possible how is that possible it said
Your corpse is not in the dungeon. Yeah, I know it's not, but I want to be
What
I don't even know that must be a bug I could report that one.
I'm a good beta tester guys that's what's going on.
bug here. I got killed by Thorvar, judgment of righteousness. Thorvar killed me. You need
the res before entering, then move forward and enter? Yeah, just like we did right there?
All right
Play some ads before you enter. Yeah, let me see if that'll work. Good call girl. Thanks. She'll prompt
How's the death counter I haven't had any deaths outside of
of PvP were falling. So basically zero. Let's raid up and smack them all. Wait a minute.
a minute how many people are outside right now can we actually just kill them
all not gonna work wait a minute how many people are even out here because we
would need more than one tooth like we need at least 40 at least probably two
raid groups maybe a maybe yeah probably two raid groups we could probably do it
though
hold on hold on hold on hold on just a quick message if you're right outside my
name is are you prime is are you prime send me a whisper if you're right
I'm gonna get quick head talent. We need at least two raid groups. Maybe like like two raid groups full
My whispers I have one guy said I'm outside
I'm out
Okay, it's looking a little light guys looking a little light, I don't know
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal, heal!
Okay, we're gonna do the dungeon. We'll do, well, we'll do world BVP at a time, because these guys didn't have a chance anyway.
Alright. Guys, we made it into the Ruins of Lordaeron. Holy crap, this looks sick.
Don't make me walk outside. Good comps. Yeah, let's just stay in here.
Blue items everywhere.
Oh my gosh, you have to get the head of the Baron level 21 quest. Wow.
Okay, let's lock this in a dial. I'll enable the damage meter.
Okay, let's do it.
From her alive?
Yo, everyone is in our guild if that's what's up.
High threat.
Okay, my action bar is bugged again.
Bro the music in here is sick you hear that it was like a piano
Whoa I got to turn this music out this is rad oh it's already maxed
Dude, this dungeon is sick.
Guys, this is Classic Plus.
We're playing Classic Plus right now.
We are playing Classic Plus.
I hate spiders.
There might be an arachnophobia mode. I don't know
It I only saw one quest to pick up
Witherfang, that looks like a boss. Yeah, from behind, I'm getting attacked from behind.
Oh, great, we pulled from up front. Yeah, I got the sheeps on this guy, don't worry about it.
Everybody in Witherfang, lock in and dial.
I picked him.
yeah the major rotation is definitely one button right now but we are level 16 so
it makes sense yeah this dungeon is brand new brand spanking new
who's loading whoa whoa whoa blue item okay but I almost pulled that okay what
What is this?
Actually, in spirit leather, sick.
I might give the critique that they might have got a little overboard of blues this early.
Like from RFD, do you get any blues?
Do you get any blues from RFD?
I feel like you don't.
Do you?
No, I don't think you do.
It's fine, but it's also maybe a little unnecessary like if all if they just dropped really good greens like it's fine enough
The fact that like everyone has his funny blues this early is like, you know, like I said fine, but I don't know if I would have done that
I meant RFC. Yeah, sorry guys RFC now RFC. I'm like an RFC does RFC drop any blues
In vanilla no but it does now okay so they scaled it up it's my action bars are
I don't know
Do you guys like that that you get like a lot of blues early
From quests and from dungeons or do you kind of like them rarer how it is an era?
So you guys seem pretty split on it
I don't know if I really cared that much but I think my preference would be no blue
Like how it is an era like no blues for a little longer. I
I don't want to like get it make a character and get this run this quick
But I don't know if it matters that much either
All these are elite mobs, I'm moved out guys
Rare feels better when you actually get one that's what I'm saying
Like I think I would have actually preferred a lot of these dungeons to drop greens instead of blues, but that's fine
I'm being pretty nitpicky with that one, but still
bro the music in here is so sick the ambiance the mobs like this is rad
I
These guys silence up
map. We're skipping a lot of the packs here. Honestly, I don't even mind full clearing
if we want to. Just since this is our first time in here. You find out what to do with
fire not yet but i think it's a similar quest from sod. Dude this music is epic yeah it's
really good. Collect 10 bloodied insignias and take them to stormwind. Alright.
Someone pulled.
Yeah, so this action bar just keeps bugging.
Might be the, um, addon I'm using.
Yeah, kind of keep clearing this it looks just like a massive courtyard kind of dealio
That's shrinking. I'm in RFC now and it's all blues. Yeah, I think they updated that in forever, right?
It's not normally like that in era
Having running both new city dungeons. I think R.O.L. is cooler
Dude got iron for each one. It's so good to know
Oh, wow the ghouls come up when you walk through
Man, this is awesome
Nice, so we get all the insignias from this, 5 out of 10, 5 out of 10, 5 out of 10, 5
5 out of 10. I like it. I guess I shouldn't go too much further cuz we could aggro more
cools or something.
Okay, I'm sick.
Dude, this is, this dungeon is really cool.
Ruins of Lordaeron, man.
Where's that located under city flesh golem sick
You can get heroes alliance if you run in
Well definitely have to try to do this on hardcore have you lived
But props, mining engine right now.
I think it'll be too hard to get to a hardcore.
Well hardcore is a PvE realm so you might be able to just walk right in to be honest.
Hardcore's on the beta now, yeah.
Any cool new Angie things?
There is a lot I haven't looked at it yet.
Yeah, Eureka is really OP.
Very very good.
Why aren't you playing hardcore?
Oh, it's the beta. I want to like test things out. I don't want to be afraid of dying
I want to die, you know, I want to want to push the limits try some stuff
Didn't they say sneak in at the panel surely you're not meant to just walk in yeah, maybe there's another entrance. I don't know
Hardcore is not out yet. People told me earlier there was an option. There was like an update
and an option, unless I got trolled, but...
We are gonna blow here.
Oh, it was a bug and then they took it back out.
Oh, interesting.
Dude, this for only things three is gonna go so hard.
Like I just see this guy get knocked up and only thing someone's definitely gonna get knocked into more mobs
They're gonna pull more mobs. Everyone's gonna die yelling at each other. It's gonna be great
How do we train the killed you can just message anyone
Okay, so this is another boss or something.
There's another quest in there too.
I wonder how we're supposed to get in there.
I guess this way.
This is a PvP or a standard server?
We're playing PvP.
What's the gold situation?
It looks pretty standard, although they said they were going to monitor resources a lot
in botters and gold buyers and this and that.
So we'll see how much that actually affects prices of consumes at like end game.
Healing healer, let's go.
Yeah, my healer is definitely healing here.
W.
Typical mage gameplay.
What, you mean top of the charts or what?
How does the nerfed AoE feel?
It feels fine for this.
The nerf day we is only four targets, but we're only pulling about four anyway, so it works
fine.
How am I in range of that?
I'm super dead unless I pot, it's a pot.
Okay, they just keep resurrecting or something bro
It's my last water crap
I can't wait to play this, but I don't see the point of playing the Vader.
Yeah, waiting is completely fine.
I just kind of want to see this dungeon, Amateur.
What shrewd spec got the most love?
I don't even know.
Dude, this place is massive.
Here we go.
How do we get in there?
I guess we just clear around.
One way to find out, let's get in there.
Okay, sick.
What's up here dude, look at that
Brothers gargoyles too dude these are gonna come alive aren't they
The abandoned oh
Bro, this is so cool. Oh, yeah, the cargo is come alive. Let's go.
I want to go down there and kill that thing too. Oh, this thing has a bubble on it.
Even better than Shadowfang Keep?
This is rad.
I love this dungeon as a kid.
This is brand new.
Lord of Mirror Overlook.
So we're probably like jump down and kill this guy if we want.
Yeah let's say we try it.
I'm pulling aggro here, she's crushing it.
Oh, wow!
Wow
My the only cloth in the group. Oh turns out I am whoa. It's probably pretty good for the healer though
cheese
Those are kind of cracked
Yeah, you some toll couple more bars still dinged though
cheese
I
Rolled a 69 and one okay, there we go one more level we send these
As much as I love really good early blue loot
I'm curious for like the other dungeon shop now like this like getting blues this early this good just feels kind of weird
So we'll see how the scales, you know what I mean? We'll see
Like these are like as good as like dark we riches or whatever they're called
These are like insanely good
You can just get them 16 drop
I don't know how you guys feeling about it. That's a feel like to OP is to feel good
Power creep yeah, I'm a little nervous about it. We'll see though
Seems more casual friendly. Yeah, you just got to often some punches and get some gear
Yeah, we might be dead here
Yeah, nice. Okay. Yeah, my add-ons are experiencing some errors here. Yeah, my team is walking in.
me to reload after this.
Dude, my healer?
My tank?
You guys, everyone's dialed here.
Well done.
Nice.
Very, very nice.
Very, very nice.
Nice. Very nice. Very nice.
A gross mage is still of out of mana issues? I mean, yeah, yeah.
That's definitely like the mage class. You're not gonna get away from that.
Like even in TBC, even in Wrath a bit, that doesn't actually go away till like mop.
Like even in Catabit. Like definitely in Classic Well, like yeah, you'll be um...
but I feel you. I feel you.
Yo, Jor, that looks like a brand new boss.
I just did a direct comparison to my hardcore character.
My leveling is like four minutes apart.
Yeah, the pacing seems exactly the same.
We got a $10 super shots in console script errors console script errors zero
Eating blizzard will ever implement a pulling system. I don't know. I'm very pro pulling though. So see how it goes
You think reduced mob XP intentions might encourage skips? I don't know, I think it really disencourages
Do the dungeon at least once for the quests, right?
I was able to solo hog her at the level 11 hunter don't know about power creep but fell
bad you should be able to solo hog her as a level 11 hunter in era as well you just
Stay far, slow, and kind of mount.
I actually did some tests between Aera and Forever myself.
I leveled a 14 gnome mage on Forever into the same pull on Aera and Forever,
and the pull looked almost identical as a four-man AoE pull.
If anything, it was easier on Aera and harder on Forever, which is kinda crazy.
I'm a little turned around here.
Yeah, there's a boss patrolling. There's another quest this way.
Yeah, the gnome ratio service is good for priests. They have like a guardian angel style thing, like it seems really good.
Boss is patting back so we'll just get some mana and try the boss now.
Is this giving you bad memories of searing ghouls?
Uh, no I don't think about searing ghouls that much anymore.
I'm feeling pretty good about it all these days, it's fine.
I'm chill.
I'm chill.
I'm very chill.
Oh, boss is behind us.
I thought he was that way.
All right, I called it Bjork last time,
so it's probably Bjork.
Because everyone's laughing at me.
Is that better, guys, Bjork?
It's got to be better.
It's got to be.
It's got to be much better.
Anti-magic shield.
OK, let's see what the loot drops.
Immune.
Sounds about right.
That's tanky.
Two misses in a row.
Wow.
Okay.
Let's wand this up.
It's fine.
1-1-1.
Does Miss Equal Resist now?
Maybe.
Bone Rust Legging.
Seven strength six Ashley three spear. That is crazy, bro
These items are just so good at this level I
Don't know the RP behind York, maybe some of the chat does you can help us out here
Do I recommend mage for leveling like it's good, but it's definitely more one bunny for sure
What Dungeon is this? It's a Ruins of Lorda on his inner city. Right when you walk into the left.
Oh whoa whoa whoa whoa. Five elites here. No CC. All right. Big heals on me baby. Big heals on me.
Actually an attestive leeway sold the game
Okay, I think we're chill
Nice it's kind of out
Okay, so this is Rothmail. There's a quest over here too. I don't know how many bosses
are in this place, but let's definitely kill this guy. Can I change damage meter to current?
Looking much better there actually.
Okay.
Okay, three ghouls over this way.
Over this.
I mean majors can a we still guys they can
Arcane resistant and that's on that
Do you know if Season of Discovery is getting to lead it or what's going on?
I don't think so.
I'm just gonna sit there and writhe, I suppose.
Big damn.
I'm on sod right now doing max hard mode for I was just thinking to myself who is playing sod
when this is how your playing sod yeah how's odd going tell me that is a lit
arcane explosion being effective at this level is crazy it's the only button I can press for good
damage. Bring this to Stormwind City, 10,000 experience, bruh. So the last quest is Head
of the Baron. There's probably one more pause after this, if I can guess.
Hopefully they keep Epics really rare, King Louis, but I totally hear you, man. I think
Blues are definitely dropping like like candy right now
And what's I'm too bad getting here as alliance I just had to die a few times well besides that yeah, that was pretty chill
I mean bro these items are cracked
Level 19 blue feet
Legs wand gloves. We're gonna be like full blues by level 20 man
Holy moly
Where's my frost armor I was waiting to see if anyone was paying attention before I rebuff. Thank you
We have one guy in the chat paying attention rock. Thank you, bro
Why do you jump with arcane explosion?
Um, assuming leeway works, it actually makes the radius bigger when you jump, but I don't
know if leeway's actually in the game, so we'll have to see.
Snuggles!
Thanks for the T1.
I mean I got staffed to the Westfall many times to level 17 or 18.
I mean that's different to get like one capstone item after clearing an entire dungeon at like
closer to 20 with the last boss being 21.
make all buffs one hour now in electors one hour but frost armors yeah only 30
minutes
is it just frostable frostable frostable wand frostable frostable frostable wand
yep mage is a pretty simple design right now I was trying to theory crap like
how to make it more complex but you know it is classical after all you know it's
not supposed to be crazy complex you want to keep it simple.
And then thanks for prime
Why not play frost I actually am playing for us yeah
Seems very easy. Yeah, that's the whole point, you know
It's going more of like an easy casual approach where you can just hop on and play with some friends and
Play world of warcraft and enjoy being in the game versus like
Leading to mid max and dial a hundred week oras and add-ons and you know this and that
Yeah, we get Iceland's like pretty soon level 20 with Iceland's I think it will help a bit
Okay, so we're looking for Head of the Baron.
I think there's a lot of stuff to still explore in here. This place is massive.
Are you available to answer a question for me and my friend? Yes.
Oh, what's in here?
Nothing, okay.
Maybe that does go to something though.
This guy in my party says he really likes the open dungeon design non-linear.
Right, you can kind of just like crawl around and enjoy stuff, see what's going on.
I mean, we're looking for head of the Baron at least.
I don't think it's this way.
Yeah.
Can we even get out this way?
No, I think we have to go back around.
Yeah, no, it's out this way.
We want to go like back out this way.
Pretty sure.
Nameplate show up at 40 yards now, not 20, yeah.
Okay.
I mean, we can go up.
Okay. I mean we can go up. I don't think we need to. Let's just start clearing this stuff.
I know your ally with the Torn Flames running is great at running at 30% movement speed
on Mordor? That's crazy. Yeah, this is a new dungeon, yep. Do you think Mage will still
be AoE? Seems like the Shaman and the Rogue are up there with you still. Yeah, I think
Maybe there will still be AoE Kings.
Seems like that's definitely the case.
Can made his AoE farm?
I don't know yet.
That might be actually Khan.
Well, okay, there's probably some way you can do it, but we'll see like how viable
it is.
we can click on that fire over here. Might be something.
Oh, he clicked on it. Yep.
Do it.
I got my drink off in between waves insane you guys got this you guys got this I'm gonna
keep drinking for now you guys totally have this I'm gonna keep drinking you guys got this
for sure. I'm gonna keep drinking. Yeah, I'm coming out now. Yeah, I'm moving. Let's
God guys
My group is really locked in a dial who's looting
Nice
Okay, I mean mage life is still there like look at the meters like we're AFK half the fight we come in slam some a we
We're talking like that's that's generally a mage plays, right?
Okay, oh crap, okay, I got my drink off again.
I have to sit down and drink this entire 15 seconds, I think.
Yeah, you guys got this.
You guys got this.
Okay, Nova Flame Strike, AE.
Eureka for half mana cost.
Wont here.
Okay.
We got more ghouls.
These are a little different than searing ghouls, ragged ghoul, leg ghoul, sauce, yo shrimp
don't die, everyone on my team is really tiled though.
You have evo at 16, now that was an evo scroll, you get scrolls out in the world.
Okay, I drank, I drank, I drank.
Yeah, wait, what if we just don't stand here?
Wait, let's just stand over there and shrink between waves.
Let's just all go over there new tech. Yeah, I just thought of that. We don't actually have to stand right where they spawn guys
Earthbind totem very overpowered.
I'm gonna check the loot over here guys but don't follow me.
Check and see if there's anything good here.
Oh great, it's over.
it's over now nice that was crazy oh Victor the vile cool so clicking on the
flames like a secret boss to look at that smoke and the fire in the fog in the
hype people are already buying gold guys if you buy gold on a beta I don't
know what to tell you. Oof we missed that one yeah we actually just saw that one
out of the corner of my eye I was mousing over everything and I was like
yo we can click on fire
It's one button rotations going crazy.
Yeah.
It's kind of how it goes.
dude this guy is okay guys I'm completely out of mana we need to kill this nice what's
Salute with salute.
Bloody chest wraps, nine Agi, four Stam, four Int.
Sick.
Oh, Baron!
The Baron!
We found him.
The Baron over here.
I see his head.
I see what we need now.
All right.
Let's head this way.
More hybrid gear, I like that.
I actually like the hybrid stats a lot.
So this guy paths back and forth.
So cool, bro.
Skellies schools do they crush it with this dungeon? I
Don't know how to get over there is it this way yeah, I think it is this way
It's probably this way
Where is this dungeon in under city
Did I find the secret Banshee yet?
I've seen Banshees, I don't think I've seen a secret one.
Do you think you can get here as an ally in hardcore?
I think you probably could, but we'll see.
We'll see if it like flags you when you run in.
How do you get to under city?
You can take the boat from Stormwind.
Get to like two boats.
What about the UI, the UI, the UI, the UI UI?
Classic UI forever add on.
It's a little buggy still,
but that's what I'm using right now.
We'll see.
I'll probably try a couple of different ones,
kind of gravitate towards the one I like the most.
Honestly, like I don't mind the new action bars and a new mini map that much.
The one I really don't like is like the unit frame.
So I might end up just using like better blues frames or who knows?
I don't know. We'll figure it out.
They tease the classic UI coming to forever on Twitter.
Shut up. Did they actually? No way.
Wait, link me that.
You're trolling this guy's got to be trolling people would have said something sooner. I got baited. There's no way I
Definitely got one guide link it or or fake
That's all the wow in the chat, I'm waiting I'm waiting I'm waiting all of you while we're all waiting on you, bro
Yeah, nothing nothing at all. I was gonna say bro if they actually did people would be spamming me I think
That's like the one thing. I'm like really wanting
Ziko's thoughts on mage forever talents actually want to listen to that. I'm really curious what he thinks I
Actually kind of want to do like a mage think tank
We bring all the mage players together like me Ziko fed rookie
What other like mages are there like maybe we need some PvE mages who's like a PvE parser mage
Joker yeah Joker maybe amp even amper joker me venerookie and Ziko you know what I'll try to organize that
That would actually be cool
I'll try that I'll try to organize that that'd be super fun. All right Baron. What are we doing here?
How do I Vagro? I'm pumping. Oh, don't want to run into those mobs. I almost just did.
The Mage Council, yeah.
Okay, so we got the Baron's head. That was nice.
Now, Meat Hook, Slicer, Dagger, 1.8 speed.
4, actually, 3 Sam.
Not bad.
Huge.
Okay, so the quest turned in for this was at the start of the dungeon.
This is like SMGY?
Not really.
Maybe there's more stuff this way.
Wailing Banshee over that way.
Okay, we should try to stick the other here.
The ambiance is legit.
We can just keep clearing, too, if we want.
There's got to be something else in here.
shrooming. Oh that's the quest at the start to turn that quest in and we did. New legs,
Haven't thonged up yet although we will very soon
Did he kill spider boss yet? No
Yo, ding 17 boys, let's put on these brand new legs, a little more permafrost.
Let's get it.
Dutch and XP was nerf, but the quest XP was buff, so overall it's about the same.
We just don't want to spam it.
Okay.
I say we just kind of keep clearing until we see anything else.
Oh, Spider Boss was first.
Okay, yeah.
That's damage seem really high.
No, not really.
Not right now at least.
Okay, so we entered here, let's turn quest in, and then try to do another round.
So five stamina ring is probably the move here.
Yeah, five stamina ring.
And you just get like a third of a level from that quest turn in, which is just correct.
Oh my gosh, our warrior is just gonna keep dying to this dot.
So instead of healing through it, my healer is gonna let him die and then res him.
Oh, well, never mind.
The shaman didn't get that memo, so we healed him up.
All good.
Okay, so wither fang is dead. We killed wither fang there might be another boss. I'd say we just do one more big lap
Let's just do one more big lap and see what we missed
The true it's gonna have to res our warrior right now, so let's let him do that
No Tunch and Map, no.
Can you see numeric value on the health bars?
I think you can swap to that, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, the druid goes that dot on hardcore is going to suck.
We literally had to just let our guy die with that dot, it was that strong.
We're going to need, yeah, cure disease next time in here.
So we probably missed something this way, I don't know.
Ghostly citizen.
Wailing Banshee? Maybe there's a Banshee...
Dude, you could just spend hours in here running around.
We might have done all the- let's go this way.
Very cool dungeon, yeah.
I'm blown away. So Baron was here. We've already been here.
Which ones cooler ally or horde dungeon they're both so cool.
I might prefer the old Ironforge one even more than this, but this is amazing.
Like they're both like, they're both so good, man.
Let's just keep running around and exploring, I guess.
Let's kill this pack, I guess.
There's a relatively big statue somewhere in a prox waves. I mean there's a statue right here. Is it this?
There's a door right here. There's something maybe in this door. Let's click this. Oh, oh fancy my bad
In horde to the iron forge dungeon. Yeah, I don't know if there's a way to sneak in might be hard to get in there
Yeah, I can't see anything in here, bro, completely black.
They mentioned burrowing in, yeah, there's probably a way.
Oh, what about up here?
Do we already go up this one?
Let's check this out.
I don't think we went this way.
Did you check Iron Forge at airport yet? We have not
Okay, maybe this is it if you go up even higher
Oh, you can't go in this way hmm. I don't know where to go
Oh, spellcasters can just kill this, nice.
Wow this dungeon is huge, yeah.
I have not tested the pink system much now.
I'm seeing if I can like mouse over anything or do anything if not, we could just bounce
out too.
Nothing wrong with coming back and doing it again another time.
Tasty! Thanks for the T1.
Scroll.
We did Bjork, Victor, Butcher, Rathmael, Bandon, Witherfang.
We've done all of those except Lordaeron, Captain, I think.
I
Fuck
The lighting is insane. That's cracked. We just call cheesies
If it wasn't so late, I would just spend like two hours running around here, but
This place is really cool
Yeah, there might be like one more hidden boss somewhere, but I'm not seeing it right now
I'm doing a last little quick survey for our summer good comps.
Uh, did we go up this tower?
I'm gonna check up here real quick.
Oh yeah, we did.
Victor the vial, the abandoned.
Yeah, Lord around captain. I think it's the one we're missing, but that's okay.
Snackone, safe with Prime, dude.
Target macro, nah, it's not working.
I think we have to clear, like, more stuff or whatever.
It's like a spawn. Ooh, have we got a Thieves?
Ghostly citizen.
Captain Shroomen.
Yo, devastation.
Thanks, little two-won-man.
Uh, when they invited you in a few streamers to BlizzCon, was it actually related to
wow forever. What did you guys do there when you got it out? Yeah so we did play
the game, we didn't know what it was called, we didn't play this version of
the game, we didn't play this dungeon, we can't get into specifics, but yeah we
were invited to play the game and give some feedback and that's pretty much
what happened. So everyone was exactly right, yeah.
Zuck me, face the frown.
open the door the mob comes out I wonder if it's a low chance rare boss yeah we did we open the mob
the door where the mob came out but we only we killed it but that was pretty much it
yo wire man thanks for the two one
wailing banshee came out yep
I think it was like around here.
The lighting is so good.
Oh, it's amazing.
Yeah.
Do you think there's any redemption for retail?
I think retail will be still really awesome for people that want that like high APM difficult
gameplay, right?
So it just depends what you're looking for.
Wailing Banshee.
Do we need to kill the rest of these banshees?
Retail is good right now if you're not a classic Antony, yeah that's what I'm saying.
I think people haven't twisted it, just calling it completely bad.
It's like, no, it's good if it's what you're looking for.
Okay, if these banshees don't proc anything, I might call cheese.
Just because it's very late where I live.
6 p.m. is very late.
Yes, it is definitely very late where I live.
Like I said, guys, very late where I'm at.
Living monstrosity.
All right, well, GG's.
We will be back here. We will definitely test some more
Definite G cheese for the first run though. I like this place a lot. I like this place a ton
I like the iron forge place to turn to guys today was legendary
Thank you all for being here I am tapping out we need to get some food and lay down
one. G. G's my friends. Next
stream. I'll see you guys for
giveaways or beta more testing
more mage more warrior alts
pally alt dungeons pushing the
limits of dungeons SFK dead
mines wailing caverns world
pvp dueling everything.
G. G's guys. I'll see you in
the next one. Thanks for all the craces, for all the love. We're out of here. Peace.