Happy birthday. Good morning chat and happy Monday boys we are back. another week of classic plus oh my goodness and thank you all for the happy birthday wishes I can't think of a more epic way to stream today than play classic plus on my birthday and Shannon got me a nice little happy birthday balloon in the back of the stream here thanks guys it guys playing literal classic plus of my birthday you just can't beat it you actually just can't beat it thanks for all the wishes guys it is it's gonna be a fun one it is going to be a fun one yeah thank you guys I appreciate it I appreciate it yeah one girl army with 10 gifted subs thank you very much is it drones birthday to I don't think so but maybe who knows happy 40th man I'm not 40 okay first of I'm 33 which is is is definitely getting there, but we're not 40 yet. You'll octane. Thanks for the prime brother appreciate it Appreciate appreciate it and holy crap guys. We made it out of the the the hot summer here in Tucson, Arizona Finally we can go on some morning walks together. It's incredible Tooler thanks for the prime skull. Thanks for the prime We out to yeah crazy sub love right now yon thanks for the sub and Molly thanks for the prime How we feel I'm feeling a lot better feeling a lot better Saturday, I was kind of just laying down and chilling yesterday. I felt pretty good We kind of just took the day and hung out with family. It was nice and today. I'm feeling good, too. So Feel nice. Yeah Friday was Friday was a little rough Friday was definitely a little rough We have a big week though guys. We have a big week. I'm excited. I Think today later today. We have some world PvP planned Which should be good. We're gonna hit level 20 today. I'm gonna check out everything that mage has to offer I talked to Venruki and Ziko and we're gonna get the mage council back this week I think tomorrow we're gonna do a mage council with the best mages I know and we're gonna chat mage in classic forever I know a lot of there's a lot of what's the word a lot of mages feel very disappointed and you know of course we understand that Ziko is Disappointed it right a lot of mages feel the same way so we're gonna rise up the mage council and see what can potentially be done This is the beta. This is the time to do that. So we'll do that tomorrow. I'm excited for that. I Need deadlines. Yeah, dude. I'm actually gonna I think the plan today It's like first thing we do deadlines hit 20 and then we slam some world PvP out In South Shore area for a while and then like theory crafting kind of go from there Gromsky five gifted Bella twitch prime and beyond tier one and raffin prime and anonymous prime and draco prime and ram prime And did you ever check out the king's avatar on Netflix? I've not seen that dude. We have not not yet Yo prevalence. Thanks for the two one sub as well birthday party popper emoji Yo, yo, yo Appreciate it. Am I subbed you are subbed Yes, sir Gromsky thanks for the two one Yeah, 33 today Rob 33 so that's what's happening boss king five fifth and tariff twitch prime and things guys Thank you, thank you 33 rip yeah, that's what's happening. That's what's happening Was that born in Tucson? I was actually born out in California, but I've spent like most of my life here We moved and I was I don't even know two or three or four or something. So yeah You know, Nira thinks that you want Gator thinks the prom. Um, are you like a big brother to Pika? More like a father figure, I would say, but you know, I mean, whatever works. You know what, a poly-happy birthday, man. Gee-gee, thank you guys. 12 months. Coincidence that is how long it will be until your next B-day. True. True. You were 29 when I started watching you. Bro, I started streaming at 18. I have been streaming like I was Yeah, I guess I was like almost 19 when I started streaming or something like that like I've been streaming a long time It's crazy to think about 100% crazy dude I'm 33 now 33 now You've been streaming almost half your life. Yeah, it's nuts very nuts. Hey, what up? Buffles. Good morning Good morning. Good morning. I started watching you back in Legion. Dude, that's nuts. I was talking to Calvish, the BlizzCon Champion Calvish, and he said he started watching the content in Legion as well. It actually made me feel old, but it was actually like a, like in a good way. I was like, holy crap, that's pretty cool. Yo, Deebs, thanks for the Prime, dude. We actually do have some beta keys to give away today. Oh no, all the The bots are coming out now that I said that. Um... Where are my keys? I actually need to see how many. I definitely have some. We didn't give them all away on Friday or Saturday or whatever. I'm trying to think where my keys are at though. Oh crap, did I lose them? No, they're here somewhere. Um... Okay, yeah, I definitely have some keys. I definitely have them. I found them. I found him. Yeah, script. Thanks for the T1. Happy birthday. Murgrim. Thanks, LePron. Thank you guys. You guys rock. Welcome to the 33 Club. You're over-sending it. On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your WoW forever beta experience? Pretty much a 10. Like the only thing I have to complain about is legit the UI. That's like my biggest complaint. And if you really think about it, it's like, is that, like that's not a big complaint at all. Right? Like I actually just downloaded a UI add-on anyway. Happy birthday, sir. Yeah, thank you for the $33 donut. I'm going to throw away chess, chess, chess, chess, chess, chess, chess, chess. I'm the exploder. Yeah, legend. If that's it, it's pretty good. Yeah, bro, I just have this add-on anyway, so it looks like I've yielded UI anyway. So like, honestly, my biggest complaint is just fixed with an add-on, so like it's not that big of a deal. But yeah, that's my biggest complaint. Try Classic UI Forever. Yeah, that's what I'm using. It's amazing. It's great. It's great. Goose, you got an add-on? Yeah, I feel like a lot of us are just gonna get this add-on. Which, by the way, Blizzard, if an add-on dev could make this in like a day, I'm pretty sure it could just be like, in the game too, but, you know, it is what it is. It is what, you know, it is what it is. We're not gonna complain, I'm just saying, okay? Just saying. I'll complain, don't worry. Yeah, yeah. What do you think about Paladin bro paladins? I feel like are the one class that everybody wishes they're playing right now I feel like paladins like this absolute gold standard where everyone's just like holy crap paladins got so much love What about my class? You know what I mean? But yeah, maybe shami's too shami pali. Yeah, but like they needed it. You know what I mean like paladins needed it So it's like make sense Make sense. They got it You're dying him. Thanks for two one sub man You'll bend for the five gifted as well pulls for the prime laminated the prime. Thanks guys She's Louise What's the worst class right now? Well, it depends what you mean by worst like you could say Like what do you mean by worst like class design wise DPS wise utility like that's the thing That's cool about classic while like every class has different offerings, which is cool. Which is really cool You know oh Actually just thought about something that we haven't talked about like pretty much at all Is uh How are warriors gonna feel without world buffs Happy birthdays are in a raid They're gonna feel a lot different without world buffs. Yeah, I thought about that over the weekend Because warriors kind of really come online of it happy 40th. You know star for it It's not my 40th birthday by the way, but thank you. It's my 33rd birthday. Okay You were so buff and handsome Yeah, thanks for the sub love guys you guys rock we're on a level 10 hype train by the way to start the day. That's kind of crazy The name of the classic UI add-on is classic UI forever I'll link you my where my add-ons are these my add-ons. Yeah, those are my add-ons in the chat I already put it in my add-ons Channel and discord it's pretty much like the only add-on I'm using on the beta because it's like the best. Oh Starfords even subs W There we go, man. I thought about this with Warrior, but I guess TBC showed us it is possible. Yeah, maybe it's fine. I hope they give Shadow Priest a second thought. What do you not like about Shadow Priest? Shadow Priest looks kind of fun. Level 13, hold! There we go, man. Shadow Priest looks kind of awesome. I mean like fair like not awesome but like good for you know classic well Thanks for all the birthday wishes guys you guys rock We're gonna do deadlines first today I want to just do a couple more quests in Westfall hit up the deadlines hit level 20 And then we're gonna do a I think we're gonna do a massive world PvP battle at South Shore in a little bit But we're gonna do that in a few hours. I think Butchering thanks for the prime and then after that like I actually might make some alts to Actually, there's so much. I want to do a level 20 first So I'll probably do that first, but then I want to make some more alts later this week Not Adam thanks for the prime in Yo catch 20 gifted. Thank you man. Holy crap Yo appreciate you bro You gonna explore? I'm gonna do everything man. We're gonna do absolutely everything. Happy birthdays are... That's on Dungeon XP? I like it. I like it a lot. It's all in the quests, not in the dungeon run itself. I think it's really good. Yep, yep. Did you see Soda testing thorns on roaks? I have not. Dude, I've just been completely AFK this weekend. Like 100% AFK. Just IRL. Happy birthdays are big things. I wasn't feeling great on Saturday, so I was just kind of like laying low Saturdays yesterday I was just we were just touching grass IRL and so it was good. It was good So but but I haven't actually seen anything Yo Tarzan thanks for the prime Max thanks for the two one qual things for the prime deal things to the prime move Fossa things to the prime space things for the prime and the man things to the prime Did I drink Friday like I drank water And a Sierra thanks for two one Reacts for old times is there anything massive to react to like I actually don't know I haven't really seen Anything like crazy because everyone's actually playing the beta So to clip let's take a look at this so first we got a HPT. Soda Clip. Anti-Rogue Build. What is this? Put Wizard Oil on. This is plus 15 spell power. Then we're gonna get the Food Buff. That's plus 4. Okay, then we're gonna do this. I already love this. This is what Classic WoW is all about. Like, oh, let me stack up all of these things so that my class feels really cool. I love the theory crafting here. Elixir plus 5. And then we're gonna do a Lesser Spell Blasting. Then we're gonna Thorns. 26 damage. Alright. And now I'm gonna put my thorn's gear on. He's dead. He is level 11. But by God, he's f***ing dead. This is a fully geared level 20 rogue. He's beating me. I'm AFK. Yup. Yup. It's working. Wow. Like I thorn's sailing with spell power. That's insane holy f**k He is dying quicker than me. Oh, he ruptured. You might I'm not playing the game Yeah, I don't think you can beat I mean this is the most counter to rogue. I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, it's over Okay, thornbill. So first we got that that is actually sick I think some of the stuff might need to be looked at in terms of how it scales since you have so much power Spell power that you can get early on but like it's still I love the theory crafting like that's what classic plus Okay, wow forever goodness gracious this name. It's just gonna be so fun We've had 20 plus years of theory crafting with era now We get to do it again in like kind of the same way, but like obviously all new stuff. It's like so fun, bro. Oh my gosh At $10 super chapter in Korean saying happy birthday. Thank you man There's been a lot of talk online speaking about certain players wanting more quality life changes like mob tags summon stone I don't know I don't I don't know if I agree with like any of those We got a two-dollar super trust and happy birthday. Thanks man Zorpa with the prime centers with a prime level 12 pipe trade over on Twitch. Thank you guys We're in this in world PvP in a few hours guys I'm gonna hit I'm gonna do deadlines first at level 20 and then we're gonna hit world PvP I think around like noon so I maybe two and a half hours from now. I Think we're gonna start like an all-out war. I know there's stuff going on already, but we're gonna wait a bit Arcane Blast, stacked with Eureka, will be busted, thoughts. Arcane Blast doesn't stack with itself. It only stacks with other spells, so not so much. No cloak, no Shadow Step, vanilla Roke sucks. That's a tough one. Like once you add mobility creep, like did other classes gain more mobility is the question. The only class that I know that gained mobility is maybe Druid, Feral Druid. I'm trying to think of any other classes have more mobility. that's just like movement speed, which is a form of mobility, but I'm talking like shadow step, blink, leap, not that I know of, really. So I guess the point is like you can't just give rogue shadow step without actually like increasing mobility for other classes. And if you increase mobility for other classes, what ends up happening is you have mobility creep across the game, which makes the game less slow, which makes the game faster paced, which becomes modernization of the game. So anyway, rogues probably shouldn't have a shadow step unless warriors have like leap, or rogues shouldn't have a shadow step, unless like mages have displacement, or rogues probably shouldn't have a shadow step, unless hunters have a disengage. But if you start adding all those things and the game sucks, so like rogues probably shouldn't have a shadow step feral cat charge works on friendlies too yeah so like that that's the one which is an interesting interesting thing w take yeah I've thought about this stuff guys we're gonna world view a few hours I'm gonna hit 21st I'm gonna hit up Dead Minds too happy birthday y'all thanks brother let me hit up I'm gonna message Showback yo hitting 20 world PVP in two hours ish South Shore Let me set message saw Sav savvix is down by the way, okay sick two hours ish I'm gonna message Savvix Sardocco Make sure everyone's all good I think it's going to happen in a bit. I think they're already kind of starting if you guys want to send it, but Sardocco as is at 2pm central, which what's that 2pm CST to PST 12, two hours. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Yo, Ben! What's good, man? Ben Rookie's playing Hunter now? Okay, so for those of you guys that missed it, for those of you guys that missed it, I am going to do... I'm going to host like a... I'm going to host like a... I am going to do, I'm gonna host like a mage council with Venruki, Ziko, and myself. And we're just gonna deep dive mage. And we're just gonna talk mage for like a few hours or however long we need. And try to figure out what the heck we're supposed to do with it because it's tough. It's tough. Let's be honest, it's like, what do you do, right? What do you do? Right now, Mage is in a, well, I think it's gonna be tomorrow. We'll get into it more, but what we're gonna chat about is like, Mage right now is in this weird position where they're fun in world PvP. They're fun when you're leveling. They're fun in the world. They're fun in dungeons. They're fun until end game. At end game, they're reduced to basically like One button 90% of the time similar to warlock like in classic era like classic era warlocks We're like awesome to level and when you hit end game your one button your shadow bolt. How do we fix that? That's gonna be the big question for tomorrow Right, that's gonna be the big question tomorrow They address that well, well, we'll chat about it we'll chat about it And I think this is the time to chat about it, right It's the beta like this is the best time to have these conversations like how do you make a class more than like 90% one button in the end game? How do you fix that? Okay, let's chat, right? Lapour thanks to the five man saying happy birthday. Thank you for the nice and inclusive community where it's just gaming and good vibes Yo, that's what's up, man. Thanks. Thanks so much for the five Lapour. I appreciate that What are your thoughts on shamans? I haven't done too much of a deep dive on them yet But people seem to really like them Yo hidden beta things the prime man Okay What are your thoughts on under Pali it looks awesome. I love it. Hey vlogger. Thanks for prime book. Thanks for prime So it is watching you. I'm watching soda. Hi soda. What is our plan? I want to main a mage, but I talked to Ziko and Benaruki. I think Benaruki might not play a mage. I think Ziko also might not play a mage. I was actually thinking about not playing a mage either because right now it's like, you know, we're in a tough spot. So we'll chat more mage and once again let me be clear it's not about the viability they're still very strong it's about just the rotational stuff Venerik he's going lock that's what he said yeah Zika I saw Zika playing like a shaman he's like screw this I'll play something that's fun so well we're gonna chat we're gonna chat tomorrow your chat tomorrow Venerik he's like a hunter really okay dude hunter looks cool with the new marksman stuff especially with like baseline aim shot sniper shot and then lone wolf like hunter looks sick Arcane seems to have an interesting rotation. No I'm at a at a quick glance you might think so but once you deep dive into it The way they made arcane blasts will get into this tomorrow, but arcane blast doesn't work on itself So the way they made arcane blasts what you'll do is always want to get rid of it at four stacks So Arcane is no longer a mana based spec, it's just Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast missiles. Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast missiles. Because once you're at four stacks, there's no reason to incentivize you to keep stacking Arcane Blast because it doesn't work on itself. So you always want to only get the four and then spend every time. So it's two buttons, Arcane Blast and Missiles, which is lower than any other spec in the game. in the game for end game PV. So yeah, definitely needs work. It needs work. So that's what we're going to shout about. How do you make it more than two buttons? That's what we're going to shout about tomorrow. Peasant, thanks for the prime. Even three buttons helps, yeah. Hard disagree on your take on the rotation. Sure. Why do you disagree? I've thought about this a lot. That's why I'm like, huh, what do you mean? What do you mean disagree? I don't know what there is to disagree about, but I'm very curious. Yo, Darfels. Doing well. How you doing? I always liked fire when I first started. Fire sick. Yeah. Hey Colin, thanks for the prime. There's a sweet spot between like being too simple and too modern. I think the sweet spot is three to five spell rotations. Two is too easy, two straightforward, two linear, three can maybe work, four or five is like good, six is too much. way too behind but Jira has two level 20 warriors already dude guys am I too behind on the beta is it too late I guess I I mean I could just quit like it might just be too late to even play at this point it's over guys guess I'm but I'm too behind even play anymore gg's all right um since we do want to to get into some world pvp I think it's time to whoa whoa whoa whoa since we do want to get into some world pvp it's probably time to start leveling wow this lag is crazy let me re-log here oh the city looks so gorgeous oh my gosh guys I feel like every two minutes when I'm playing forever I just glaze how good it looks and I can't help myself guys I'm sorry I am I can't help myself every two minutes I'm gonna glaze it it just looks so good like and like the shadows like it just looks amazing I can't not do it so if that's annoying to you guys I'm sorry it is what it is I have it's like perma glaze dude Um, we're gonna put this in the bank, keep this out, and that goes in the bank. Okay, this is probably fine, we can bank that too. Yo, PETA, thanks for the prompt, shop, thanks for the 5, says happy birthday, die too fast with mage. Dude, mage, mage is still like my favorite. I just love oh my gosh the game looks so good. Okay. Sorry. I had just had to Have I used the issue reporter button yet? Yes here and there Someone has linked golem heart staff. What the heck what is that from dude? All right foam foam foam um... safe travel cronics, thanks for the t1 bro the truth is mage went from god class to equal and now mage players think it's bad when it's not nope, that's not the conversation at all the conversation is about the rotation, not the strength, but you can keep thinking that if you want goodness gracious guys Omku, thanks for the prime. Mage Council win, we're gonna have the Mage Council tomorrow. It's amazing how smooth-brained people are. Dude, I had this conversation, like an ongoing conversation on retail for like five years and it was always, every time I thought about like, how can we make Mage more fun? Do you know what I got in return? Zar Stot, Mage is our OP. And I'm like, I'm not talking about the strength, I'm talking about the rotation. Zar Stot, Mage is our OP. I'm not talking about the strength. I'm talking about the rotation. This was like five years in a row like One of the things I actually thought about was maybe it's a language barrier Like if like if English isn't your primary language, maybe people just don't get it and then the other thing I thought of this like Well the obvious one that like people just You know haters trying to hate but yeah, no it's guys. It's seriously not about the strength majors are already very strong We all agree there, but it's about the uh Oh my gosh, that gave me so much XP We're talking about the uh, what's it called? Wow that was so much XP from that turn in. That rotation. No nuance and subtlety are lost on people, yeah, but like I don't care, I'm gonna keep having the conversation because this is the time to have it, right? People can't comprehend there's other levels to fund than being the most powerful. Yeah, totally. New add-ons. The only add-on I'm using right now is Classic UI Forever. I actually did get Bagonator just for the one reason so I can move my darn bags. I actually like the default bags and how they look, but with Bagonator, I can move it. So I'm like, yes, at least I can move it, bro. I don't know about you guys, but the bags being the bottom right, like annoying that crap out of me. So I just have this, so I can move it. But I'll probably take Bagonator off once Blizzard makes it so you can move it with edit mode. And then I have Litrix maps for the same reason, just so I can move my map. Cause right by default it's like over here, and I like it in the middle. You can't move it without Litrix map. So I have like a couple add-ons, but they're all UI-based. Like making my UI look plastic, or moving my bags, moving my map. It's all, they're only like UI add-ons. Cause like the game actually doesn't need any add-ons anymore. Holy crap, I'm level 18 and a half, baby, let's go! Deliver the Bloodstained Letter to Avet in Duskwood. Oh! Five Stamina, Four Spirit, Neck. Yeah, I'll take that. Holy moly. Okay, so let's turn this in and Darkshire will do the run and then I'll go back to Westfall, do a couple of the pre-questies, and then from there we'll send a Dead Minds. We'll hit 20 and then we'll go kick Savux's butt out in World PvP. Does that sound good? I think that sounds pretty good to me. Train your skills. Yeah, it could come. Let's go do that. How do you get that UI? It's called Classic UI Forever. I'm just gonna keep testing like as many of these add-ons as I can, but I will say this one whoever built this is crushing it. There's so many options. When you open like your spell book it works. When you open your like profession tabs it works. It's probably janky I don't know but like whoever did this actually did a pretty good job that quest log works. So anyway we'll see that. Like I said, it's a beta. Like all these things are janky anyway, but it's pretty cool. Thoughts on profs? I haven't looked too deeply at profs. Like, I'm just engineering and mining, but like I wanna try tailoring too, because it looks really strong. Yeah, you can have 40 quests now instead of 20, which is amazing. That's a killer add-on, yeah. Whoever's doing it, it's doing a great job. But like I said, I'll probably try to find like the best, lightest, weight won, like, at some point. Do I have enough money to get all this? Fireball, remove curse, ant magic, I might not need. Oh, I'm getting anyway. Okay, cool, little mouse over D curse. Cool. Alright, so let's head to Westfall and then get my Dead Minds pre-quest in, hit Dead Minds and that should deign us up 20. One of the things I really like about Forever, man I feel like I'm just like permaglazing guys but there's a lot to like here. One of the things I really like about Forever, I was actually thinking about this in the shower this morning is that you can just basically quest and get ready for that next dungeon more often in forever than you could in classic because there's nine new dungeons in the 160 leveling experience you can basically always be getting ready for that next dungeon which for a lot of people is like just so fun like you're less incentivized to spam dungeons but you're more incentivize to like get ready and do that next dungeon which is awesome. I love it. Fixed character portrait? Dude, I don't even know. That's the need like, yeah, I'll have to like look at where I normally have it. Do I normally have it like here? Maybe it's more like there, usually. It sounds fun. It makes each dungeon run more meaningful. Oh, it's great. Yeah. Savics and the Horde are waiting for you to leave the Alliance to fight with them. Right after this deadline, we're gonna go kick their butts. So yeah, I just need a little bit to hit 20. What class would you play if not mage? I I would play a Paladin or a Warrior. Those both look so fun. I would also think about- Oh, the game looks so good. Oh my gosh. I would also think about Rogan Priest, because those also look really fun. Oh my gosh, the game looks so good. Holy crap. Skeletor, thanks for the summon. You gonna try the Skyborne starting zone? Eventually, yeah. Yeah. Am I gonna go Alliance Unlaunched? Yes. Favorite cereal brand? I don't like cereal too much. I go eggs. I go eggs and rice pretty much on the daily. Sometimes I'll do like sourdough instead of the rice. Sourdough toast. Um. I'm an egg kind of a guy, man. They're so good. When is Blizzard gonna talk about the future of TBC? I don't know. How are you guys holding up on TBC right now? Are all the guilds just like G.G.E.D.? Is it like over over? I don't know. Just complete dead? It's G's? I'm very curious to see the player numbers in the next like two weeks. I don't know how this is going to go Okay, let's go pillagers and looters for a bit then we do our escort quest and hit up the deadlines. Oh No, I forgot to get the dead mines quest from Stormwind. How did you guys not remind me? Absolute trolls can't believe it. I'm gonna have to go back to so actually know someone can maybe share them with me Regardless, I'm gonna hit up pillies and looters first Do I still track calories and macros? Nah. I just try to eat generally well. So no wrath you think? I don't know. I legit don't know. Yo, I think this is 100% true. You know how we were under NDA and we couldn't say stuff? I believe at this point everything I knew is out. So there's no more like, do I know this? I'm trying to think if there's something I know from the NDA that is still not out. Actually, let me ask Savix. Yo, is there anything from the NDA that the public doesn't know now? I think it's all out, question mark? Or am I forgetting? I'm pretty sure everything is how anyway my point is like yeah there's there's no more like yeah it's closed beta oh my gosh there's a lot of people holy crap moon brook looks good a baby? Yeah, I'll save you, bro, don't worry about it. Well, you try the classic name plates I posted on Discord. I'm using an add-on that has them already. Is it better in some way? I'm not sure. Can you show your talents, please? I'm just playing this right now. Oh, I actually leveled up. Frostbite. Yeah, just playing that right now. Crazy to see how Blizzard finally listened to their players and look how many of them returned. Yeah. Actually, there was a really cool, um, sheriff that Savik's linked. I actually want to pull this up because it was really cool. Let me see if I can find this. Yeah, it was, it was this right here. This I thought was super fascinating. Twitch viewership does not equal player base by the way But it's still really fascinating. This is twitch peak viewership for wow and you have like BFA you have wow classic 2019 you have shadowlands you have TBC you have Shadowlands patch you have dragonfly season of discovery Annie midnight Wow forever beta The beta of WoW Forever is like beating like all modern retail expansions or like getting close. It's a beta. Is that, I mean that's crazy. Once again, this is not indicative of actual player count. I know that. This is just viewership. But still, that means something. 2019 classic was here. I'm curious to see how that goes. That is nuts. This is nuts to look at to me. I feel like I'm dying in the game. Am I dying in the game? I am. Okay, let's lock in and dial then. Have I played Elder Scrolls Online? a little bit but not a ton Okay, these pillies go kind of hard though So these are level 19 boots and then I have that neck turning in Duskwood too. Did I see the undead Pali quest sword? No, I haven't. Increased comprehension skill, okay. Need to check that. Oh, I actually need to drag Fireball Max Rank to my bars. Yeah, there we go Our hardcore Annie's gonna stand classic or go all in on forever it I would assume everyone's gonna all in for I shouldn't say Everyone everyone will do their own thing, but I would assume like most people Will uh We'll be playing forever. Yeah, I think it would be like an a failure if people went back to era It basically mean they didn't do it, right? So we'll see I mean some people will some people will no matter what but like I hope that's not the case, bro. Like I hope people like this. I hope it's good enough Someone said slash console gx restart for clearing the memory leak lag Does that actually work slash console gx restart? doesn't work Doesn't doesn't doesn't okay. Yeah, the lag is still like pretty bad Like like I said like normally I have Like five hundred six hundred FPS. So I have to like cap my FPS. It goes like so crazy But on this I have like 40 FPS right now like it's kind of interesting But I would assume that'll get fixed like just like memory leak stuff incoming re-log in three two one There is Maybe I will re-log while they're doing that Camp tent Well, you can put that a camp tent. That's crazy the heck Yeah, we're gonna do more giveaways pretty soon here have you tried the 98% thing yeah Am I gonna play WoW forever? Absolutely yes! Gives you Resid Xp? Oh that's huge. Could you make a note to talk about changing Fire Mage to a Dot Rock class? I don't know, like Fire Mage actually looks like overall pretty good right now. I wouldn't like think about completely redesigning it. Okay now my FPS is 120. I mean, that's obviously better, but then I think it'll slowly go down back to 40 over the next hour-ish, but that's, I mean, way better. Um, let me get the rest of these guys at this farm over here. Yeah, we're gonna go up this way. Thanks for all the birthday wishes guys, you rock. What's my workouts? But I do a lot of like upper lowers these days. Can you tell Blizzard to enable Battlegrounds? Wait, you can't queue a Battleground? What the heck? You know blocks, thanks for the problem they're not in weird has the name forever crone on you yet not yet we'll see I'm still waiting for it to I like the thing is bro it's a name like who cares about a name right like it's it's just what we call it I think there could have been a better name but that's okay it literally doesn't matter and names are They're really tough man. Oh wow, there is a lot of people out here. I thought there might have been more spawns this way, but I'm gonna go back to Moonbrook. Hey Ryan, thanks for the prime. I eat more thanks for the prime. Eesa, thanks for the 2-1. Oh, someone said I actually don't need this for the Dead Minds quest. Oh, can you skip this one? I think you're right. I just need to go to Lakeshire and then kill the... Oh, that actually is true. Okay, so I'm actually gonna run to Lakeshire then. On my way, I'll also get the flight path and the turn in for Darkshire. And I'll fly back and then get it. Okay, yeah, good call. Please go to Duskwood. Guys, I haven't actually been to Duskwood yet, so this is going to be rad. Mage doesn't have an AoE class, so why not make it fire, combust, buffing, ignite, and the living bomb would be fun? I mean, fire is already fun the way it is, pretty much. I don't think fire needs that much rework. We're going to talk about this tomorrow in the deep dive, but the biggest thing fire needs is wake a fire, needs to be removed. It doesn't make sense for the kit in any sense and Hot Streak needs to be changed because crit is too low to actually really like take advantage of this in classic WoW so it needs like some type of change. So Wake of Fire and Hot Streak are my only two concerns of fire. Like the rest of the kit seems pretty good. I'm not like that concerned about fire. I'm like way more concerned about Arcane Rotation and End Game PvE and Frost Rotation and End Game PvE. Those are like the my only two concerns besides that I think mage is only really strong in like dungeons and like PvP and like duals Like I think mage is look good Just like endgame PvE rotation problems right now Oh my gosh the water it looks so good dude. It looks so good when it's like flowing down You know like it's going one direction. It gives you like Like what you can like feel where the water is going like how cool, bro? Oh That's good. It's my first time in dustwood too Oh my gosh. What an experience. What an experience. Are you still doing giveaways? Yeah, we have a bunch of giveaways for today. What's the icon in the middle of your action bars? It's Eureka. By the way, I actually like don't like this icon for Eureka like at all This thing looks so troll. I might need to make a macro to like put a new icon there. I Saw you crossing the river on my flight path dude. I was looking up at you on the flight path It doesn't look troll bro it looks gnome. Yeah looks troll completely troll Spell animations are still a bit bucky. I don't know. I haven't noticed too much. Icon looks retaily? Yeah, I think the icon looks like a little troll. I could make a macro though to make it look however I want, so maybe I'll do that. like do Eureka guess I can't open in a combat you must choose this for me warrior or rogue bro those are two of my favorite classes in classic while I would probably go warrior but like both of them are so cool men what icon would work better for Eureka than Eureka a cog trying to think one of these has to fit Arcane brilliance a brain this one kind of would maybe fit We'll do the brain for now and see how that feels. I don't know if I like it, but this is already better How do you feel about mage yo salve so If you know, I could call you right now. I'm gonna give you an earful I could like tell you we're gonna we're gonna do a mage Like deep dive tomorrow with Ziko, Venruki and myself Where we're basically gonna like like go into the nitty-gritty of what mage is good at What mage isn't good at what we like what we don't like all that kind of stuff But I can give you like a TLDR in Same lineup. Yeah, I actually messaged Ziko and Venruki yesterday I was like guys we got a we got a talk like let's talk about this stuff, you know what I mean Because now is the time to have conversations, like things can change right now. You can, you know, if we talk about things enough, like we can actually change some stuff up. Pineriki isn't going to play a mage in forever? Yeah, I heard Ziko might not either, and like I've been kind of on the fence too, so like, like that's what I'm, maybe we start the conversation there. she's louise savage with twenty gifted bro all my goodness gracious thank you savics happy birthday y'all thank you men holy moly I can't see Ziko's anything besides Mage. Yeah. Okay, let me call Savix. See, I don't know if he's... I think he might be in the middle of a PvP war. Yo! Savix! Dude, am I interrupting your PvP war here? No. The Alliance are all slaughtered. We're just waiting. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, dude, I need to hit 20 real quick, and then I'll be out there and kick your butt. But, yo, thanks for the 20 gifted, man. Of course. Happy birthday. Chat was telling me that you're gonna react for like three hours and I was like, oh No, I skipped a react. Well, I was gonna really hours, but I skipped it today So we could actually just get to 20 and only go kill some horde W's are okay. We're waiting czar, but you want us to wait two more hours? My men are thirsty and hungry. It should be sooner than that now I'm just getting so dead mines will ding me. So it's just a dead mines run basically, okay, okay? Well, I was just going around streams. I asked Hydra what he thinks the best three classes will be at dueling for level 30 And I asked Soda I'm curious what you were gonna think but I had to ask like what do you think about mage before that because you're the major expert, right? Dude, so yeah, I got like I was told in stream I actually got like we're gonna do like a little mage council with Benaruki and Ziko and myself tomorrow and deep dive on it right now the I think the The the reality of mage is very similar to how like warlock is in classic era where when you're leveling super strong Like so yeah, so like when you're leveling you have a lot of buttons to press and you have like a really fun kit And when you're PVPing you have a lot of buttons to press and it's a really fun kit So they're they're strong in the LP. Yeah, they're very strong They're very okay the kit the kit looks really good but my big concern about mage is at max level you're kind of like a one button Andy in a raid kind of like warlock just presses shadowbolt and after looking at like every other class in the game like no other class is as linear as mage is in terms of just like one button like like sure I'd like to hear you out I have some comments on that but I want to hear you what would you prefer them adding in or is that for like tomorrow's council do you have like a brief idea of what you think they could do to make the complex of the rotation but simple enough for classic well um so yeah it depends if we're playing arcane frost or fire sorry I just lagged out and then to horde it got a lucky kill on me and I'd one be too well I lagged no these guys complete complete Trolls No, I didn't get owned guys there was two people I got a lucky kill during a lag spike when I was talking to my friend Savics Oh, it's all I want that Yeah, yeah So right now, I mean bro, I like I could talk your ear off. I'm trying to give you like the short answer right now Our can blast only stacks to Stacks to four stacks, but it doesn't actually buff itself So what that means is every time you have four stacks you want to send them a missile So the rotation for arcane is arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast missile Arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast missile arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast arcane blast missile like so like that To me is just too linear right like it probably needs Argument to those are I think you're on the right track I wouldn't mind them adding like a tiny bit of spices a rotation But I fear that if you ask for a little bit more, then Rogues will be like, hey, all we do is sinister strikes, sinister strikes, sinister, like, this way, right? It goes like, both ways, almost. So every class has three to five dice, right? Okay. So yeah, so that was where I started the conversation. So every class in the game has three to five. Mage is the only class with two on Arcane and Frost. So the objective is to bring up Mage to where everything else already is, not push mage past where anything else is. So just to be clear. So what would you, yeah, no, no, I totally, I think I'm like siding with you. A little bit spice added to the rotation is fun, yet we don't want to make classic too complicated like retail, but I want to hear your thoughts on what you think would fix that then if you were to add something. So yeah, just adding one more button to bring it to like the lower echelon would even be fine. So like the lowest other class has like a three button rotation. So Mage would just need like one more button for Frost and Mage would need one more button for Arcane. And then it would bring it to like the low echelon. So some classes have like five or six, which would be like the higher tier. But yeah, once again, this would, like in terms of complexity, like that three to five button rotation, I think is really good. Once you go six or seven buttons, it's like like too retail-y, like it's too hard too much. And if you go two buttons, it's too simple. I say it's kind of like classic era. So my gulf with mage would be to bring it up to just where every other class is in terms of end game PVE rotation complexity. And yeah, that one extra button is what we're gonna talk about tomorrow. It's a tough one. There's a lot of different things you could do. Yeah. Frostfire Bolt, Glacial Sprite, Shatter, I don't know. So brain freeze, Arcane Barrage, like there's options. But I think those are all boring, right? Like you want to do something new, I think. So I think, man, I feel like almost everyone has their wants right now, because I was in a massive debate with Soda, because he was like, read so much better than Jurid, then let's get nerve. Then I'm like, well, instead of asking you to get nerve, I think we should ask for a buff for Jurid, right? And it seems like on your end, you're wanting something for the mage. Like I want something too, but I'm I'm trying not to be too greedy for the Paladin. Like a force of a bluff. I think Paladin is kind of what everyone's looking at is like, they got the most love clearly, but they needed it. So it like, it makes sense and everyone's like, wait, Palis are this fun. Like I'm just going to play a Pali, but I think every class should kind of feel like, you know, like Palis kind of like the gold standard right now. Like all the, I think a lot of other classes want that. You know what, you made these deep threes guys. No, no, that's two OP, right? We don't want Mages being OP. You think so? Probably two OP, yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Here's the thing, like we want, like so in your rotation, how many buttons do you have at end game? Like you have your seal, your judgment, your holy strike. My judgment, holy strike and seal. So that's it, that's three. That's it, it's three. But people are crying that our holy strike's too strong. They're trying to take it away already, bro. No, holy strike's good. I think I love holy strike. Okay. But you also a seal to us. So two different seals is that right or no? Yes. In the max though, if you run that talent, but people either run, people either run out or ocean. Okay. So five, cause people either on that or, um, what's it called? Holy shock. So either way you're going to holy shock or seal twist. Right. Yeah. Okay. So basically, and do you have mana to actually use consecrate? Oh yeah. Consecration is baseline. It's not just, so if I, if I spam consecration, I go, um, if I don't spam it I don't go as fast okay but so basically like that's the complexity I think that would be cool from age right you have a couple buttons to think about couple buttons to press it's not crazy hard but anyway that that's not that's the answer yeah I think that's fair I think it's fair and I am excited to see what you guys talk about that's a very good idea I think it'll be fun for all the mages to listen to yeah yeah and it's a big like everyone to be open-minded you know yeah the big clarification for a lot of people like that i was telling in my chat is this is not let's make mages stronger because mages are already strong this is let's make mage rotation in like a molten core or a nax or whatever more than one or two buttons because right now it's going to be a 90 one button rotation with a second button that comes into play every 10 seconds like no I hear you just trying to make the rotation a bit more fun for the class I understand bro just in PvE yeah cool all right I can't wait to hear about it level 30 top three dual classes are oh gosh well Pali's definitely one right I mean Pali has to be you're the first one that said that okay I mean from what I've seen they do so much I Sorry go ahead, sir It's so tough I almost just need to play more to really know oh what's all this Gosh I Need to play a little bit more dude. I'm only level 18 Let me hit 20 and get back to you after the world Pup thing because I need to just see these clothes I've read all the talents, but I need to see them in action. You know what I mean Yes Sick, all right, okay, you're like right after this deadmines. It should be soon sure Your mistake dinners are Alright CSF okay guys, we're gonna do deadmines then coat then go own Savicks guys look this This is hard to explain. What this is, is a birthday gift from Darth Mogg. Look guys, he says birthday gift. You can't decline a birthday gift. You cannot decline a birthday gift. It would be rude to decline a birthday gift. I'm not a rude person. So I am gonna take this gift with class here and say thank you very much to Darth Mogg for the birthday gift. We cannot decline. Mm-hmm. Okay, we gotta decline some build. Okay, let's put this on. Before I turn this quest in, what is this? Three corners now has a bunch of vendors. What the heck? Tailoring, leatherworking, inventory intake. What is all this? Contact coordinator, there's a quest. Supply officer. Azeroth trade commerce. I love this. This is so cool Teaches you had a permanently enchanted weapon to grant a Chance to trigger revelation when your direct spells failed a deal of crit revelation grants you a hundred percent Increased crit chance on your next spell cast that seems a little too good like a fire mage would really like this wow holy oh my oh my gosh there's a lot of new stuff holy crap there's a lot of new stuff undead spirit held an off hand And glimmering staff enchanting. Oh! Level 25 though. Oh my gosh. Okay, we're gonna have to come back and look at more of these things in depth. I know a lot of people are waiting on me for world pvp, so we have to get into this dead mines like ASAP. Um, holy moly. I like this a lot though. I love that it gives you a reason hopefully to come out here and actually like buy this. Oh! Oh! Oh! Silky boots six frost damage Okay Wow, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna death. Oh engineer. Okay. I need to check this out one sec What is this bombs waste cord Throne in wait what invisibility for 10 seconds army knife glider. Oh, there's a glider chicken throne stamina impact battery stealth for one minute loot from a corpse fall speed Goggles looking into the distance easy throw More goggles Clanking cord waste waste. I don't know what that does easy throw rap Gizmo girdle holy crap, okay. I will definitely look more into that stuff. This is really cool though I love this guys. I love a reason to actually get out here in the world and like talk to these guys. That's great What's the currency? Merchants favor Members of the Durotar supply and logistics or azeroth commerce authority would be willing to trade for this It's like way late boxes way late crate similar to like season of discovery way late crates I think I thought I had one of them on me. Let me see So like these fill the crate with the bundle From the following list you get cured light hide or bolt a linen and then you get that inventory. I think so that's cool Soon this way cohoops a 50 gifted subs Thank you, man 50 gifted from cohoops. That is legendary. Thank you so much man, man I'm feeling so much better today guys I don't know if you could tell on Friday. I was definitely feeling a little more on the the low energy six-side I might still be feeling a little that way, but I'm feeling so much better today like way better She have like energy like some energy. Let's go man Ariesha, thanks to the prom Guys we're gonna we're gonna do like everything soon here, but I need to just kind of get to 20 cuz Starbucks is waiting on me So we're going to grab this and then isn't there a quest? Yeah, so we want to turn this one and we get the follow-up then fly back and then we hit up dead mines. Can you show your talents? Here you go. Nah, thanks for the prom. Ben, thanks for the prom. Where's the market for Horde? I actually don't know. Happy birthday. Thanks guys. Damn, I'm told. Dude, this is the best way to spend a birthday playing classic plus like I just I keep like oh my gosh. I can't believe we're here right now doing this is the coolest thing, man. Like I'm literally spending my birthday playing classic plus oh my gosh. This is amazing. I'm 33, man. Improved Scorch rework, that could work. I'm more concerned about Arcane and Frost than Fire though, for the rotation, but yeah. Okay, so now we just go back to Westfall, easy peasy. Bro, I love, oh my God, guys, I'm perma-glacing this game right now, like I just can't stop. I love how many quests there are now, because it really makes it to where you have decision about what to do in terms of like how you want to level because there's a surplus of quests not just enough but more than enough which means every character you could do something different and you have a different journey every time whereas currently in classic era which is great by the way but there's just enough quest to hit 60 so you kind of need to do like almost all of them and if you skip some then you have to grind mobs like that's your choice Whereas now it's like I'm level 18 like if I want I could quest in Westfall if I want I could quest at Red Ridge But like I want to go do a deadmine, so we're gonna slam a deadmine's you know what I mean like it's great dude To Alenia five gifted subs a bis five gifted subs thank you guys Sorry, please don't assume they'll fix the FPS problems it took them forever on retail. Yeah Cool, I'll write that down. How's mage after the nerf? May I just feeling good? My only concern is like max level PvE rotation. That's pretty much it. Yeah, whatever. Yo, Chris says, Thank you for your contribution to the human experience. That is legendary. Thank you, Chris Gripton, thanks for the prime build star. Thanks for the super chat when game actually goes live. Are you starting on a pvp world? Yeah, yes Add-ons are like bugged right now. Yeah, most of them. It's the vehicle exit button. I couldn't find that. Oh, yeah, here it is. Thanks, dude Save Got it fixed Should they let you swap rule sets for free? Probably not. Can Mages still slow mobs after 30 seconds of combat in forever? Blizzard got nerfed big time. Which I'm actually like, weirdly okay with. Um, as a mage, like, I have bigger concerns than Blizzard being nerfed. Blizzard being nerfed is like, I really haven't even thought about that much. It's like, yeah, okay, but we have bigger fish to fry. Like, there actually is more important things. Um, you know, so I haven't really thought about it that much. It's gonna be my first time not maining a mage. Yeah, I'm gonna talk to Fenruci and Ziko tomorrow, but like, it seems like both of them are considering not doing mage too, which is like crazy. I don't know, we'll see. Talon should cost one silver on the beta. I agree with that. Maybe we can get them to swap that. Um, we're gonna take this note to Stormwind, and then come back. In Stormwind 2 there's some other quests I can pick up in Dwarven District. Alun be with you. Back at you Senna. Yorika is the skill on C. Have I died yet? Basically no Well, what is fire rotation on fire rotation you want to keep up scorch for improved scorch You want to fill with fire Paul? You want to fire blast? Maybe uncooled on depending how tuned it is and then you want to pyro when you get hot streak So that's four buttons like so if fire is actually like in a pretty good spot in terms of rotation Icicles thanks for the two one How is layering been treating you I haven't had too many issues with it so far But I saw a payo clip where like he's about to get owned in world PvP and then someone like he layers and like it's saved by the layer or something and that's like like if I can't farm payo and world PVP needs gonna layer away like there's definitely an issue so I don't I'll keep an eye on it. Yo Mudd thanks for the gift to T1. Can you ask if we can have an RP PVP server? I really don't think there should be. We talked about this before but the RP community is already a small one and the PvP community like if you split the RP community between a PvP community and a PvE one I think it's a big mistake so I I definitely am not for an RP PvP community despite there being pros to it the cons are bigger than the pros so I think it would be a mistake okay old town and then dormant district Yeah, people have to remember that you can actually just type slash pvp on a pve realm and pvp whenever you want, right? You can just slash pvp all the time. Like when I played on a pve realm, I just kept myself flagged 100% of the time and Like you can still world PvP a bit for other people that want a world PvP you can still do that which is kind of cool Dude I just got stuck on that ledge do you see that I Was like so short that I actually just got stuck on a little ledge right there What the heck okay? No problem, I guess so dude. So we're going to go over here and turn in the defiest brotherhood quest and then we're going to Dwarven District and get the rest of the Deadmines quest and then we're going to fly out, build our groups and the quickest Deadmines of our lives. Well it doesn't have to be the quickest. We're going to turn all the quests, we're going to team up 20 and then go on Savv. Shaw's report to Westfall. Cool. I might skip the Union card quest because I'll probably get 20 anyway. Edo, thanks for the prime. Why does Ice Lance not scale with Spell Power? I'm sure that's like a bug, I'm sure it does. For a mage rotation one about a familiar, familiar spawns when you crit, familiar element based on the spell you crit. They cast spells when you have three active, you hit a button, do something. I don't like the idea of a pet for a mage in-era, personally. Have you seen the weapon Savik's house on the Pali? No, I haven't seen that yet. How do I message you about two potential Arcane-Made rotation fixes? You could put it in the... But are you a sub? Oh, you are a sub. The Sub-Only Discord channel might be an easy spot. I actually have it open right now if you want to type in the Sub-Only Discord channel. Hey, Gold Star, thanks to the member on YouTube, Credo, thanks to the Dono. The more you change, the more this turns into sod and all of a sudden in six months everyone wants to go back to ERA. Exactly. I agree with that. Yeah. I agree with that. Like you can't take classes too far or they just feel like you turn into sod, you turn into retail, right? You can't modernize things too much. Oh my gosh, Sable 1 is disgusting now. Okay, yeah definitely send that Astrea thinks the two one I'm a bit sad about the AOE nerfs you know I'll theorycraft a little bit about that I I wouldn't be too sad yet like I want to I want to test things out but isn't there another Dead Minds quest. Is that their one in like Cathedral Square? Wait, is it Dwarf in District? Oh no, it's Old Town, Old Town. There's definitely FPS issues. Yeah, it looks like a memory leak. How do you track mailboxes on the minimap? I don't know what's doing that. Oh, just tracking and then you can track mailboxes, Inkeepers to which prime subs like whatever it is just like that with the tracking button How was your weekend it was good it was relaxing Saturday it wasn't feeling well, so it's kind of chilled out Sunday I was feeling a bit better, so touch some crass and just did some errands and this and that How old 33 man is that the classic UI add on yes, it's amazing Is this the wrong house? I thought for sure it was this one but I guess not. No, it's for sure this house. Definitely the bar right? Dwarven district? I already got the one from Dwarven district. There's for sure like two Dead Minds quests in here. There's no way. Did they move it? It's the bar in Twerfen...is it not Old Town? I'm thinking of the wrong bar. Okay, let's go over here. Is the streamer profession the one where you repeat yourself the most? Just being a dad, I think is probably the exact same. Heh. When you have a little toddler, you know what I'm talking about. It's silly, man. It's... Oh, okay, this bar on the right. Okay, okay, you guys are... A teacher? Yeah, seriously, yeah, exactly. Okay, this is what I was thinking of, I'm troll. Alright, let's just fly down then. Yo, Nive, thanks for the prime. Sezior, thanks for the tier one. Cameron, thanks for the prime. 993 hold I don't want majors to have it but deep freeze with sort of frost rotation it basically becomes the wrath and cata one yeah it probably would I yeah look I love deep freeze I really do deep freeze I don't think should exist in the era right like I I love mages but I don't want them to be like you know a god class and just own everything I think deep freeze is too strong for era personally as much as I love it so yeah It like what you don't want to happen is to build this like arms race of like oh this class gets this so now my class needs this that's just silly right like you don't want to do that it puts the game into like a really unhealthy spot. Yeah, it's kind of like fire getting Dragon's Breath, like in more modern versions of the game, it makes sense. But once you add like Dragon's Breath to vanilla, it's like, dude, it's just too much, right? Yeah. Guys. Yo, Hex, 20 gifted subs, thank you man, appreciate ya. You have the sub-log today on the birthday stream is unbelievable, man. Unbelievable. Welcoming, guys, and enjoy not watching ads. You think Ice Barrier is worth being the last Frost Island? Eh, for a classic era, it makes sense, yeah. Okay, so we'll turn this in and fender a bit. We'll do the escort. I need to re-log for my memory leak. What do you think about horde fly hacking? Hopefully it doesn't exist. Pika says you look great for 43, thanks bro. Yeah, we'll definitely do more beta key giveaways today, yep. You could download more memory, that could be huge, yeah. Um... um... um... um... Thanks, we're turning 33, not 43. 33. Track down the defiest messenger. Yeah, I can do that. Um, okay. Yeah, we got Litrix Plus and just put Block Party Invite, so. Guess we do need Litrix plus after all. Slip zero, thanks for the prom, man. Forever hold. Do do do Hold the cast is huge for classic PvE. Yeah, you could just just afk kind of albier. Thanks. Look around dude Dude, I want to do I want to level another character and do the low-level dungeons again, man I'm gonna have so many level 20s. It's gonna be ridiculous Like I really want to do a warrior. I really want to do a Pali Warrior is so cheap. Why do you say that? I'm curious. Here's my add-ons if you want to check them out. The new starting sounds really fun. Oh, I might need to do a skyborne, yeah. I should probably get a group anyone need a messenger. No but I'll help. Invite all these people here so that we have a higher chance of actually getting the tag. little messenger macro spam. Is our level a shaman for once? Oh, there's just so many other classes I want to do, man. Oh, nice, we got it on accident with Arcane Explosion. That's what we're talking about, boys. Okay, got it. Huge. So I'm going to turn this end and then I think we'll have everything. Okay. Yeah, blunt, thanks for the problem. Did you grab the question, Stormwind? Got it, yep. Did they nerf Blizzard? They did. 5, 6, 5, 5, 6, 7, 4, 5, 1 is the sound effect in you in Letrix. Oh, let's try that. Does that look right to you? Ah, that's not the right one. yeah for party invites it didn't seem to work but yeah it didn't seem to work What can I do for you, Reed Health, what can I do for you? So if you don't have Questy, like you still don't really like see what quest to pick up. I knew there was a quest up top because I've been playing classic wow forever, but There it doesn't actually pop up on the map, which is cool, which is cool Questy works now and shows all of the new quest no way really Wait is there not a quest up here wait am I there's no way there's definitely a quest up here What guys am I miss remembering? Oh? Oh, I have to do the escort. Okay, I forgot about the escort. Then there's a quest up there. Crap. Anyone here for escort? We have to escort real quick. How long you been playing classic? I've been playing forever, but it's just it's hard to explain. Riveon, thanks for the prompt. Hit at the fire. I don't see a fire, am I tripping? I see a fishbowl and a first aid kit and a camp tent, but I don't see a fire anywhere. Am I blind here? I will blast. Ah. Oh, go, go, go, go. Did I get it? Nice, I got it. Alright, well, three of us got it, I guess. Yo, Roku and Xylin were both in, um, for a nomer gun. Yo, what up, boys? Um, have you talked about how bad the layering is? So I haven't had a bad experience with it yet, but I saw a clip of Payo with a really bad experience. Um, how has your guys' experience been with the layering? Like, have you gotten layered mid really important thing, or has it been pretty chill? So far so good. no issues fine like so I haven't had any bad experiences but like overall like I hate layering but I get why they need it right it's a mega server like of course you need it um but yeah we'll see we're gonna world pvp in a little bit here and then we'll kind of figure it out Oh my gosh. So like, man, how are we feeling about level 20s basically being able to get full blues? Like I don't know if I hate it but I think I don't like it. Like I actually think this is one of my critiques that I don't mind a level 40 or level 45 being full blues but I don't know if there was any reason to give level 20s this many blues. Let me say this, I love all the new items but making them greens and a little bit weaker probably would have been just fine. I don't think there's any reason to have this many blues at this lower level. It's kind of cool but it's also kind of like unnecessary and like unclassic like. So yeah I think I would push back a little on that. I don't know if I like this many blues at this low level. Like, even Twinks didn't have this many blues at 19. Um, hopefully Power Creep won't be a big deal. We'll see, though. Disagree because it gives me dopamine. But that's the uh, that's the rea- So you're like you're kind of making my point like if you get too much dopamine in a game too early on What that does to your dopamine receptors is that when you get blues later? They start to it starts to not feel good Like that's the whole point is if you get too much good things early when you actually get them later It doesn't feel the same for example It might give you dopamine to get flying mounds at level 10 But that doesn't mean it's good and might give you dopamine to get a legendary item at level 40 But that doesn't mean it's good and it might give you dopamine to get like epic items at level 30 But that doesn't mean it's good. So despite it giving dopamine that could be the very reason. It's actually a bad thing Give us dopamine by giving away some beta keys true I will soon All right, nice. Now we go back, get the quest, and we'll build up the group. I'm trying to think here, I know Stingon has been wanting to send, yeah send me a whisper if you want to come Dead Minds, like preferably if you're around here, Stingon's been wanting to come. Xylin and Roku I played with and And for no more gone do you guys want to send TM? Dude some of these names some of these first last name combos guys unbelievable Okay, I'm assuming these guys want to come I don't know This island Roku stinging me a healer then 18 20 healer it's good 18. Where's the crap where'd he go? Where's the 18 freeze I lost him I lost him here we go Okay. We'll do a lot more stuff. We're gonna do some world-tvp right after this too, where we can get like way more people. Did they even put a threat meter? I think there's a threat meter on it. Let me take a double look though. That's actually a good question. I haven't used it yet. Can you go by threat here? Let's take a look. Damage healing actions. Interrupts dispels deaths. No threat. Guys, am I missing it? There's threat on the plates. There's right on the plates. Staff of the Westfall, oh yeah. Oh it's a healing staff though, interesting, but you still get 16 damage, which is way better than mine anyway. Alright, let's go could do this thing. Increase move speed, yeah. Oh, tower quest. You guys are right, you guys are right. Good luck on Emberstone. Is it sick now? You forgot the banana quest up top. True, true, true. Getting it drawn up. Thanks, everyone. 48 healing is busted. Okay, so for everyone that hasn't seen this update yet, what Blizzard decided to do with weapons for casters and weapons for healers is this. They want it, the objective was to make a weapon upgrade for a caster to feel like a weapon upgrade was for a warrior or for a rogue, for a melee. Like, oh my gosh, weapons are a big deal, right? The way in which they did that they removed power from the spell itself but added power into the weapon so what that means is when you get weapons you're gonna feel like oh my gosh i just got a big power spike just like a warrior would but the reality is the overall strength is about the same because they moved the power out of the spell into the weapon. So it's not actually like 48 healing sounds really good but the end result of when you have Staff of the Westfall on as a healer should be about the same as Aero already was but it just feels really good to actually get the weapon. So that's the that's the philosophy. Great change. I actually tend to like the change. I think that was was pretty smart. Yeah, I definitely don't mind it. Any code giveaways? Yes. But it makes the early levels miserable. That doesn't seem to feel like it's the case. Are you scared about flask sets for warrior I don't even know your warriors out there that have been paying attention it looks like snapshotting is gone is that the case it aka is diamond flask sets are those even gonna work snapshotting looks like it's not in the game which means I don't know if diamonds flask even works sorry warriors I don't know so does snapshotting thorns is he those were just like skull power buffs that I saw. So does snapshotting his thorns gear. What do you like? Do you guys understand what snapshotting means? Like he just had the gear on unless I missed that in the clip. He does swap his gear. They don't. If he's if snapshotting is in the game I I think that's good, I actually like snapshotting, I think it just feels cool, I don't know how you guys feel, I actually like snapshotting, but there might be some people that despise it, so I can see both takes, but I am a fan of it. What is it? So basically when you use a dot or a hot or a buff, what it's going to look at is your current spell power, your current gear set, your current attributes, your current Spell power, you know, stamina and like whatever, right? Then after you put up that dot, you could then swap your gear to anything else. And then from there, it'll still act. Like that, say you put up like a rejuve with a thousand spell power on as a druid and then you swap your gear off. It'll still like basically pretend like, look, I put up this rejuve with a thousand spell power. Even though I swapped my gear, it's still gonna heal like a thousand spell power versus no snapshotting would be, You put up a rejuve with a thousand spell power or healing or whatever and then you swap your gear now all of a sudden the rejuve is going to start healing for less because you swap your gear. So snapshotting is is how it currently works in classic era. I kind of like it. I think it adds like a cool min max thing, but I can see arguments against it like for sure. Snapshotting for warlocks adds a really high skill cap, really high skill cap which I think is cool. And for things like druids like in PvP you can swap to a spell power weapon and heal and swap back, which once again adds a pretty cool skill cap thing. So I don't know, I like it. Okay boys, we finally made it to the deadlines. Now this deadlines is going to feel a little different than a normal deadlines in the sense that we have an 18 priest a 20 Pali a 17 warrior 18 mage 20 Pali like we have like a pretty darn good group and a lot of these guys have like insanely like cranker gear as well, so This should look and we're not playing hardcore like when's the last time I've done like a non hardcore deadlines Like this is gonna feel crazy. I think Okay, we're all dying the bop was sick by the way Yeah, that was I mean that was great, but like we all almost just died but like that was a fat bull Nice work squad Nice work. Okay, both pallies are room priests assumed that was bop. That was like massive cooldowns, but we kind of sent that Can I grab wisdom instead of might please oh my gosh Paladin buffs 58 minutes. Oh, that's so nice I'm gonna play alliance when the game actually comes out, yeah. I feel like arcane missiles and channeled spells, not going through walls, lower skill cap. I believe that's a bug. I think it's gonna be fixed. Don't completely quote me on that, but yeah, I think that's a bug. Zero! Everyone, Stone Mason Cloak, okay, pop a Greed there. Pop a Flamestrike here. My Flamestrike might have just completely missed, sending out some massive AoEs here. 3 buffs with 2 paladins? I think it's because I got buffed outside the instance. Your add-ons are experiencing a large number of errors. Alright, well, maybe after this fight I can reload my UI. Actually, I'll do it in the fight. What's this whoa, I mean that's pretty good, but it's also like a healer leg It has strength on it what the heck I actually love that Let's give that to the priest huge up is that's a huge upgrade for the priest adult priest lives? Oh gosh, don't even. Those aren't priest legs, every item has healing and spell power? I don't know if that's the case is it was every item of both is there some just spellpower stuff I assume there is some just spellpower stuff no no no okay my gosh brothers game is so So good. This island might just be completely dead here. Oh Mike, you're a solely spell power? Well, let me see. Oh yeah, I have a only spell power weapon on right now So yeah, you can definitely get only spell power stuff So like if something is healing on it like it should probably be prior to healers I heard you can slash sitting combat to increase MP5 I have no idea that's hilarious if that's the case probably an oversight Dungeons look so easy now. Keep in mind I'm in a group with a bunch of gigachats and we're not playing hardcore and we have like a bunch of level 20s. Like if you had us run a classic era deadlines with a bunch of gigachat level 20s it would probably look very similar to this. You know what I mean? If you're playing on hardcore... oh my gosh, the add-on stuff guys, goodness. If you're playing on hardcore, you know, with a bunch of low levels like you don't want to die, like You're gonna play so much different, right? Yeah, that's why hardcore makes it so fun because like it does make you just go slower So, I don't know if you guys watched the stream on Friday, but my YouTube editor put together a really cool edit where basically at level 14 on classic era and at level 14 on forever, side by side I do the same exact pull in Westfall. Four mobs each, four mobs each, and the pull looked almost identical on both. Right? Because there was like a big complaint of like, oh forever is too easy. So I was like, well let me try this same pull on ERA. And it looked almost identical. Which is interesting, you know. Frostbull hit the same too? Yeah, yeah. Is there a reason why every streamer is Alliance? Um, I don't know, I know, uh, I know Savics is Lord, Savics is Representative Man. Bruh. Bruh. Bruh. Bruh. This wasn't happening last time, does anyone know this is because of the classic UI or maybe Maybe it's something else. Taskmaster, insane. Buzzsaw, whoa. Three, actually three stamps. I'm gonna maybe assume it's Bagonator or Litrix, because it wasn't happening with that last time. I'm gonna turn off everything else and keep that. And if it's that, then that sucks. It's Litrix. Yeah, it might be Litrix. going to turn that off. It was 100% litrix? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I never looted the quest item. She was nice. You think they will change your ratios and tune them? Almost surely, yes, yeah. Ting soon, hold. Level 19, boys, one more to go, and I think we just instant turn 20 after all these dead mines turn in, so, should be good. I think I'm gonna grab Frostbite, and then next level we get Iceland's. Bug sack and bug crap for Lua errors. Does it stop? I already have Lua errors off. This is like the large number of error thing, which is like a different thing. It stops that too. It stops because this isn't like a Lua error. It was more like the large number of errors. Very different. I already have Lua- Lua Errors turned off. It stops that too? Okay, what's it called? Bug Sack? Bug Grabber? I think those two were right. Posture check! We send that! Happy birthday! Thanks guys! Why do classic players want to ruin forever? Uh... What the heck was that? What? Is that the add-on? Now instead of that it says fatality! Are you kidding me? You trolls! Mutes, here we go. Okay, definitely muting that. Now I know what you guys like this add on. Okay, here we go. We're locking in and dialing, boys. Oh, yeah, it actually is stopping it, because it says here, there are too many errors in your UI. Cool. WChat. Oh crap, yo guys, I'm moved out here, gotta lock it in. Beautiful. Just get more atoms for your atoms, exactly. What's my target keybind, T? damage meter to current. Got it? Yeah, we have more giveaways soon. What's your opinion on Dungeon XP? I love it. I think it's great. It really incentivizes you to do one of each dungeon, but it does not incentivize you to continue spamming the same dungeon over run over. Which I think is perfect. Dude, we are just full sending right now, man. It's my entire mana bar now Can you explain the dungeon XP briefly sure so basically the way it works in era is a Lot of the dungeon XP is just repelling the mobs and the bosses and you know about what you would expect and the quests but the way it works in plastic while forever is the Dungeon XP is mainly skewed to be from the quests, not the kills. In other words, if you do the dungeon once and you turn on all the quests, you're gonna get a ton of experience. Like, you're gonna get like a level or two. Like, it's great. But if you do the dungeon again since you've already done the quests, you'll still get XP, but it won't be like crazy good like the first run. So if you are the type of guy that likes to just do dungeons, you still can. But it won't be optimal to just spam dungeons like it was in Era. It'll be more optimal to just do every dungeon once. The reason I think it makes a lot of sense is because there's nine new dungeons. Meaning, why would you want to do, like, every dungeon five times when you could prep up and get ready for the next one, and then the next one, and then the next one, And you have a really cool, interesting leveling experience versus just doing the same dungeon and never leaving Scarlet Monastery, for example, for like 30 resets, because it's just the quickest way to level. So I believe that if the best way to level in a game is really, really boring, then that's the fault of the game designer, not the player. So the player is the one that decides to do that. But the game designer is the one that decides, let's make this the optimal way to level. So I think it actually solves a pretty big problem where in forever you can still spam dungeons. It's just not optimal anymore, which gives the player the choice and the freedom, but the best way to level isn't gonna be a boring way to level. So I think it's brilliant, really. Chest spotted where? Oh, over there. Chest. Can you show talents? That's what I'm running with right now. Happy birthday, thanks, man. You got a blue crossbow at level 13, that's crazy, man. We're only at 5 out of 10 on the Red Silk Vandana, it's interesting. Oh, I can put these boots on at level 19. I saw my White Disciples boots on, there we go. That's a upgrade. So I'm level 19, and I would say I've had like lower than average luck, but we have Like blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue. Still no helm shoulders. And we have like green chest, cloak, white bracers, green weapon and offhand. You'll be there any second team. Streamer client. No, I actually got like basically, I think kind of unlucky loot on this guy overall on the first two and a half dungeons we've done. Dude it looks so good in here. I love the light from the torches bro. Oh man the lighting in here is just sick. It's like dark but then like light in certain places. It just looks so good. Wow modern graphics dude this is better lighting than retail lighting. I don't think any of us were expecting that. This is how it was meant to feel. Oh, it's awesome dude, I love it. What dungeons have you done? The Iron Forge one, the Under City one, and now Dead Miners. Wasn't expecting the graphic update at all. Dude, out of all the conversations we've had the last like two years, the graphic conversation was almost like never, never brought up like it's just not something that like anyone was really like talking about or asking about when it came to classic plus which to be fair like I do think there's higher priorities like gameplay is still king but holy crap doesn't look good I press B with my thumb This is how I saw it 15 years ago? Exactly, exactly. Prime cent for the birthday? Thanks for the Prime sub dude. Why are you pressing B for Arcade Explosion? Oh, thank you, Stingon. Crossed on, thanks for the prompt. Other spell ranks, yes. Sheed, thanks for the prompt. What class am I leveling next? I think Warrior, and then Pali, or Pali then Warrior. Those are the ones I'm like most excited about. I think priests and rogue are also kinda high on the list. But it would be Pali warrior mage priests rogue as like top five, mage will be first, it'll probably be warrior then Pali, if I have time then priests and rogue or something. No shaman, I won't do a shaman hunter, Druid. I just won't have the time, I don't think. I mean, we'll see, maybe I will. But there's just a priority list, like I definitely won't be doing those before the, before like my top five. Those are just like my favorite classes, guys. B-level, thanks for the prompt. When is Dueling Tournament? Wait, so I actually didn't hear about a Dueling Tournament, but I've actually been getting whispers of one, but I haven't actually heard of anything announced. Cody, thanks for the prime. Am I going to rock Mage for launch? Yeah. Tips confirmed it. Okay. I'm actually going to send tips and message real quick. TIP's got a billion dollars in funding, that's what's up. Swatly, thanks for the prom. Frostbill animation is so smooth, yeah dude. Oh my gosh, I just can't get over how good it looks. Is AoE farming still possible? I haven't really tried it, maybe from 20 to 30 I'll try it a bit more. I don't know man, like I talked about this earlier, but out of all changes to mages, like the Blizzard nerf hasn't really been a big deal to me. And like I'm someone who like AoE grinded when I was like 13 years old, 14 years old, like AoE grinded in 2019, like I love it, but it's also like, I don't know, there's There's just so many other bigger fish to fry, I just haven't thought about it. It's like so many other things to think about and talk about and like rotation wise and like the game itself, like there's so many other things I just haven't even like tried. But having said that, like I'm definitely gonna try to AoE grind at some point and just see how it feels. And like I don't think it's just 100% dead yet either, I think it might kinda work. We'll see. Alex, thanks for the brunt. How about reyafrost in the frost rotation? I've never been a fan of reyafrost at all, so I don't like the idea. I also generally think that copying spells from retail is probably not a good idea, like you could probably be more creative than that. But of course some of them do work, like Ice Lance is technically from TBC, but it just works. Yeah, but I don't like Ray for us in general Lots of stuff, lots of stuff happening guys, wow, lots of stuff happening. Okay, yeah, 30 dueling tournament, definitely confirmed. Sick, alright. I uh, I will probably be doing some stuff there cool. I didn't even I didn't even know until right now Which is legendary super cool super fun. There we go. Have you tested the wand changes? I haven't looked too much into it Law says you have to slash cheer when you jump as a female. No, I'm Stipple, thanks for the problem What does a dueling tournament mean? Prize pool, people duel until there's a winner. The winner makes money. Scroll of confused striking, interesting. Eureka with 50% mana cost is so good. It's just so good. Probably needs a nerf. I think overall like rations in general probably need another tuning pass or two But yeah, I do think mages have a little bit better mana than they do in Era. Like I think either my mana regen is higher or my mana pool is higher. I can't really tell what. I think, or maybe spells are a little cost less. Maybe it's the regen. You have more stats. Oh, I just have more In-Elect because I have more blue gear. That's what it is, huh? My In-Elect is just way higher. So my mana pool is way higher than it would normally be. Also Eureka helps? Yeah, that's true. That's true. Guys, when people have first and last names, does it feel like they're NPCs to anyone else? Like, okay, Captain Greenskin is a targeting Xylin tank then. In my head, if someone has a first and last name, they're an NPC. Yeah? It's actually gonna be so good for role-playing servers for it to have this like Because the RPers can basically just like oh Ember stone and that is only damage not healing. Oh my gosh Thank you blizzard This is guys. This is not sponsored by blizzard. Okay. This is a legit full Natty It says damage and healing, okay guys for people that are confused. There is damage and healing items like Staff of Westfall that have healing first that are way better than pure damage. For people that are confused Ember Stone is for a DPS. Staff of the Westfall has 48 healing, that's for a healer. There's a lot of you guys in the chat that are confused. A LOT of you guys that are confused. Still a lot of you are confused. Let me explain this again. Actually, hold on. Let me do the boss fight first. People are still confused. Okay, let's put this on. And... Flamestrike Aes, big damn. Man, it feels like Power Creep, like, already kind of is a thing in Dead Minds, like... Oh, maybe not, I don't know, like we're all, like we're level 20s, 1920s, a lot of us have good gear, maybe as it is how it normally go. It's hard to tell, nice stun by the way, nice stun. I'm a little nervous about Power Creek, I really am, I really am. Like we feel like pretty giga strong man. Oh my gosh. Okay, so this guy's is a healing chest Yes, it gives you damage, but it's primarily healing. So if I want to be a nice guy I would pass the healing chest to my healer Because it's a primary healing chest even though yes, it still does damage Okay, let me explain this again because people are very confused Okay, there's two types of items in classic forever. The healing items now give extra damage. This is to make it so that healers can do damage. Good change. Awesome. Which means if you want to be respectful as a damage dealer, you'd probably pass on the healing item because you can get damage items that are better. Yes, the damage also increases healing. Why does this need to be explained? But they're going to be way better for a damage dealer. So if you're a healer, you should probably pass on the pure damage items. Gosh, I hate that this needs to be explained. Oh my gosh, guys, we're doing cookie right now. Let's go. Okay, cookie's dead. Sorry guys, I was babysitting the chat here. Lookies? Spyglass. Instead of cookies, it's lookies. It allows you to look far into the distance. That's cool. That's a unique equipped shrinket. That's actually rad. I should have needed on that. that's it that's sick dope item I definitely should have needed on that I put greed that thing is lit one spirit one spirit I didn't know is I shrink it now you take it singing it's all good you take it all right um I don't have port yet I don't have port at 19 I'm sorry team I think do I ding off of these two turn-ins or should we go do the 9700 XP no I won't 4,713 actually close oh but I also did this quest oh I will ding off all three turn-ins so I'll be level 20 off these three so you don't even have to do the underground one so I could just hearth the Stormwind and yeah yo massive g cheese team we heard the Stormwind we hit 20 we can all our rewards and then let's go kick Savick's butt in some world PvP baby oh we get Iceland's oh my gosh turn in in Westfall, I think it's quicker to hear from Flydown, I think probably. Savick says gear by the way. Yeah, my gear isn't like great yet, but it's also not bad. We're gonna like spam dungeons and get like crazy bits down, but this Ember Stone staff is disgusting. Yo, Penoch, thanks for the prime. Man, guys, there's so many things about classic WoW, they're just like... We need some deep breaths here, guys. We need some deep breaths. Your gear kinda sucks. Well, thanks, man. I'm not even level 20. Thanks for telling me how bad I am. Goodness gracious. Bro, the built-in quest is kind of fire. Speak with This guy in the socks, go to the Westfall house, yeah, whatever. Oh, there's just like so many things I wanna do. There's so many things. I think the highest priority is hit 20 and go smoke the Horde and World PVP. That has to be the highest priority, right? And then from there, we'll do everything else. Giveaways are pretty high priority as well, yeah. What makes this better than sod in a few words? Um, I think there's two big things that make this better than sod The first is that sod was just so overboard. There was like mage healers and like lock tanks and like every class of like So many things that it was just like broke the game, which was fun But it's also just broke the game. Um, this is more like classic wow tamed back And of course, you know, people got some new stuff, but it's like not crazy, right? So that's the first. The second is that this is not a season. This is here forever. This is wow forever, man. So this is like going to get constant updates. In fact, I actually liked sod, but what sucked is that we knew it would come to an end where this is literally just going to keep getting updates every three months, every six months. Like we're just going to keep playing. is so cool. It's not a season of forever, whatever, season of classic plus. It's like here to stay. So those are the two big things. It's not crazy overboard broken and it's not a season. The beta only being 30 sucks. It should be level 40. I actually tend to disagree. Like I think if a beta goes to too high of a level, it kind of spoils the real deal. So I think they wanted to keep the beta low so that you can't like solve the game yet. you can get a feel of what might need to be fixed or what might need what's like OP or broken, but like you don't play too much of it. So I actually like that it's 30 personally. 40 is almost like half the game. I swear my biggest complaints are literally just graphical things. Like for example, I think like Like some of the Druid forms, like Skyborn looks a little too HD and it feels off in this SD world. Like I think Skyborn could probably use an SD model. I think like the UI looks way too out of place and modern for the game. But like these are all just art things. I swear the biggest problem is just like the UI and like the Skyborn, like how they look. The actual game is set, dude. Okay, man, there's so many things in the background happening to you trying to lock everything in and tile perfectly. What's back for playing frost? What graphics card? I have a 5090. What's up dude? But I've smacked. Staff of West Falls, bitch for the movement speed? True, it's pretty sick. I love the zone wide buffs. Those are rad. Have you been to Darkshire yet? Yes, but I was talking to Savik's. I didn't really like take it all in. I'm more just like winter and left Happy birthday. Thanks, man. I quit your shoulders. Oh Good coms good com. Oh, wow. They made cam the shoulder pads bigger Try to think if I even like that I Am like They made them bigger Huh like they look better, but the thing is like they're not like you're a low level They're supposed to look like weird and newbie Yo crafts Crass Guys we hit level 20. I know I'm a little late to the party. Okay, it was the weekend and we were touching some grass But now we're level 20. There we go All right, so we get Iceland's which is like a pretty big deal to say the least is frost It's not for the Westfall, it gives you movement speed, but it's not going to be as good as Emberstone for like, like actually playing the game. I need to go get my level 20 mage training and then let's world PvP for a bit. And then we'll like lock in and dial on some more gear and then we'll get some more like dueling in and stuff like that and some giveaways and just like kind of keep sending. do this go to the town now you can finally play the game exactly yeah Happy 40th, thanks guys, thanks. What's beta level cap 20 right now, but it'll go up to 30 soon. When is the date? Skyborn SD models should look like high elves. Yeah, that'd be sick. Or like even the TBC blood elf, like anything that looks like it would just more fit in the world. like the world is all SD stuff so that HD model stands out a bit but like once again like I'm being kind of nitpicky here right like if the if the biggest thing we're complaining about is like something like that then I'm pretty happy but yeah like if we are gonna be nitpicky then then I do agree. Hey jumper thanks for the G1. A fog slider would be good I actually like the But it feels like a little much at some points But I don't want to turn it off either because I think it looks cool, but so in some spots It's like a lot of fog. Oh my gosh, Storm it looks so good Guys every morning I look at my discord And in discord we have a screenshot section and People are just lighting up the discord with the sickest screenshots guys. This is you guys just posting in the discord just like the coolest like just out like I like I am in this discord every day just blown away by how good the game looks when you just run around and play like it's just this this is just all you guys taking screenshots and linking it in the discord oh my My gosh, Orgumar at night. Oh. Just so cool, man. So cool. I can nerd out on this like forever. So we're going to do the battle for South Shore and Hillsbrad really soon. Oh my gosh, I just realized, do I even have, oh I can take the boat over, right? Yeah, I'll take the boat over. So it'll be, it'll be PvP time very soon here. I don't really have any time to min-max any of my gear or anything like that, but that's fine. You want Twitch or YouTube or both, both? Looks like they made all gnome shoulders bigger. Yeah. I mean, these objectively look, I guess you can't say objectively better, like at St. Oxymoron. But they look good. But the point is low level crappy shoulders are supposed to look crappy. So I don't know. They almost look like, these almost look like, if you saw them, they would be green shoulders, but they're not, right? Viabilities? Oh yeah, I'm going to the Pali trainer, because I've been playing so much Pali lately. Heh, shoot. That's when you know I haven't played a mage in so long that I'm running to the wrong trainer. Uh, yeah, I'll make a group for the raid soon, like for the World PvP soon. Can I give you shoulders? I'm not taking any handouts on this character guys unfortunately I will accept birthday gifts today only though which is different than a handout very different um a birthday gift is very different than a handout so um just clarify some people might be confused here like earlier. I All right, oh Whoa Is that a birthday gift or a handout be day gift or handout happy birthday? Okay sick. That's fine then yo yo, thank you Yo, thank you very much guys. We got some new shoulder upgrades right there once again. Oh Oh wow, yeah even these ones are a little bit bigger on the gnome. I actually don't mind it. I actually don't mind it. Those look nice. Cool. Four spell damage. Four stamina on shoulders at level 20 is absolutely disgusting, man. Like that is so, so strong. Okay, let's get to the master mage here. Blink, blizzard, water, evo, fire board, frost armor, frost bolt, mana shield and polymorph. Well, we're online, boys. Yeah, we're locked in now. Sick. Sick. Put my last point in, yeah, I got Lance already. Top rank Frostbull. Frost Armor. Blizzard, Nova, Fire Blast, Fire Ward, Fireball, Flame Strike, and Magic AE. Missile rank 2. Do I even have that? Yeah, 2. Link. Food, Wata. Teleport bruh. Teleport, teleport. What do you guys mean teleport? Like blink? Everyone's spamming teleport. Oh, teleport. Yeah, I'm kidding. I know what teleport is. It's not blink. I was testing to see if you guys would remember to get mage port at 20 and you guys passed the test. Good job. There's actually not as many of you that passed that I thought. So you guys need to lock in, alright? Guys, you really need to lock in here. We're trying to figure out where we're going to do the World PvP battle right now, so give Give us just a second, we're in a Discord call trying to figure that out, like exactly the location. And while I'm doing that I'm going to get portals because most people in the chat would have forgotten that too. I don't have enough silver to get the portal. Okay guys I'm going to run down here like I was going to in the first place in Vendor to get enough silver for the portal before you guys distracted me. Holy crap dude, Stormwind looks so good. Like Stormwind? Oh, Hatter. Hello, Hatter. Deep Blaze. Okay. Okay. Okay, we have plenty of silver coins now, boys. Whoa. Whoa. Guys, I can see things. I can see under the world. Oh my goodness. Oh, one gold. Wait, who is giving me this? I can't even see them. I can see right through you, Tempest. Um... Yeah, I'll hold on to that guys his bags are so full that they're about to break and the only way I can save this guy's by taking and Helping his his situation is his bags. Just I can't handle that much. I got you Whoa, okay, we're good we're good Yeah, thanks, bro. All right, let's get up here. Let's get some training and then from there We'll go to some world PvP Okay, confirmed guys though, oh, report bug. Ah crap. How do you... Does it, does it know? Oh it does know exactly where you report it. Okay, fine guys, yes, I'm a very good beta tester. Watch this. Okay, right here in the world, in the Hatter, do they know exactly where I report it? Or do I have to give the cords? Use cords? Okay, 52, 84 cords in Stormwind when inside the building with Hatter vendor and looking outside you can see underneath, I'll just say beneath, beneath Stormwind. Okay, bugs submitted. See guys, I bait a test. Are you kidding me? I bait a test. I was gonna do that anyway, just reading Discord. Speaking of Discord, guys, we are doing a world PvP battle between the Alliance and Horde. Apparently Horde has been And owning the Alliance, I don't know how Alliance, I don't know what's going on, we're gonna do that right now in Ashen Vale. So if you guys want to kick some Horde butt, get out to Ashen Vale now. It's gonna be battle for Ashen Vale. What am I doing up here? Oh yeah, mage ports, I'm trying to think the quickest way to get there. guys Ford does not always win these things that is not even true that is not even remotely true that's not even remotely remotely true not even I'm on the PDP realm. Yeah. Okay, let me think here, what's the quickest way to get over there? the boat to Darkshore and run down? New Harbor? Yeah, let me get these real quick before I forget. Wow, Forever Hall? What's my last name? Prime. Is there war mode for PvE realms? You can just type slash pvp and invite people. What UI add on to my using? It's in my discord it's called Classic UI Forever. By the TP rune, got it. Is the framerate bad or is the stream lagging? FPS is pretty bad there's like a bug in the game right now I'm on the PvP rule set I bought the wrong ingredients no we're gonna teleportation we got it got it we got it. Poma thanks for the prompt kill break thanks for the prompt Drop secondary lighting and set the game to fair. Does that actually fix it? Secondary lighting looks so good though, man. in this boat? Woohoo! Yeah, I already turned B-Sync off. You making a raid group? Not yet. I want to make sure we get the right layer first. We have to get the same layer as Savik's and then go from there. I have to go to the bathroom but I don't think I can AFK in this boat. Do you have your UI in the Discord for a sub? You don't have to be a sub, it's in the Discord, yeah. It's for free, just all my add-ons and stuff are in here. Any keys to give away? Yeah, we have giveaways today. Yep. No music on the bow? That's actually a good call. Yeah, I have loot music on. It looks So good over here, man. To Ash and Vale. Wait, can I trust to put someone on auto follow while I go to the bathroom? Who do I trust the most? Who do I trust the most? Wait, manthee. I was leveling with this guy. Tempest just gave me a gold. I trust this guy. He's a dwarf. Manthys. Yo, Manthys, I'm trusting you to get me all the way to where I need to be. And Manthys says, follow me, I trust you. All right, wait, wait, where do we need to be? We need to get to the Ashenvale City, Manthys. I'll be back. Thank you very much. Okay, no, no, no. Oh gosh. No, not... Going the wrong way, man. I'm not even, I haven't even left yet. Oh my goodness gracious. I just, um, okay, okay, I trust him, I trust him, we'll be right back. What what what's going on what dude did the guy met I Got layered wait, what what happened? Layering just okay Well, someone asked me if I had bad experiences. I guess now we I guess now oh, I should have followed froku since we're in a party All right While we're running to ashen veil and following roku for the world PvP event I Guess it's time For a quick giveaway. Okay. Yeah, we've been we've been too long since a giveaway. Let's open the dashboard YouTube This is twitch only since I need a way to message the winner and you can't DM on YouTube It needs to be twitch so you guys can come over and Say hi you guys are spamming things. You don't even know what the thing is yet. It's gonna be Forever hype 5 this is a beta key giveaway forever hype 5 for a beta key giveaway Um, yeah, I got it. I have the keys here. Perfect. Everyone just type forever high five and we'll pick a winner in a second here while we're auto-running For the world PvP event guys, it'll be horde versus alliance I mean technically could be any level but like 20s would be nice and we're gonna try to get oh my gosh Look how good Ash and Vale looks. Oh my gosh. Look how good it looks. Oh My goodness gracious Wow, guys, I am just blown away with how good this looks. I just can't even, like I just can't even, bro. This looks amazing. We'll pick a winner, like right before we get to Ashenvale, so we'll give you guys like a couple minutes just to type forever height 5 in the chat. Yeah, look, once again, YouTubers, I love you guys, but I can't actually message a winner on YouTube without like trying to get your discord but then like that's a mess and then it's like is this the right person did you get the ad like it's just completely annoying so on Twitch I just message you the code when you win so if you're on YouTube just come over to Twitch if you want to join the giveaway guys this zone looks insane man gosh so good Man, it looks good. Finally we get what we've been asking for, man. I know it's here, Rowdy. Thanks to the Prime. 2D, thanks to the Prime. Parrot, thanks to the Prime. Void, thanks to the Prime. Germany, thanks to the Prime. Expo, thanks to the Prime. Aiden, thanks to the Prime. Shekel, thanks to the Prime. Berserker, thanks to the Prime. Guys, these sub-levels are just completely unprecedented, man. It's ridiculous. I'm an ashen veil looking for a horde for a lair or should I just get infighted to yours Okay, I'm trying to figure out exactly what layer we go guys Ash and fail looks incredible. Oh My gosh, bro. I can't stop looking at this game Wow it looks good oh My gosh All right guys We're gonna give away like basically right now forever hype five in the chat if you want to join We're gonna choose a winner if you don't win. We're gonna be doing giveaways all day long So you have more chances to win so don't worry I'll do the roll in five four three two one good luck guys KERDA, RANKAN, 4 day followage, thanks for following, welcome in, are you here, are you a human, or are you a bot, be honest, if you're a bot you have to tell me because bots are not supposed to lie or whatever. Okay, KERDA. KERDA's not saying anything. We will re-roll if KERDA RANKAN is not here. Might be a bot, we'll see. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on guys, We need to get the right layer first. Wait, we need to get into the town and then layer everyone over, I think. We want Savik's on the right layer so he can invite everyone and we're on the right layer. But we need to... We need to see what layer we're actually gonna be on. This guy hasn't said anything in a minute and sixteen. KERDA! RAN CAN! I'm gonna have to re-roll if you don't say anything real soon here! Okay, this is where we're at. Okay so I'm gonna draw my group, Sardako and Zaryu Prime, or Zaryu, Zaryu Prime. Okay, so this is the lair we're gonna be on, oh crap. Guys, hold on man, we're just getting to the city dude, oh great. Yo guys we need some back up stat. We're just trying to, we're not even starting yet. Yo healers healers healers healers. Look. Um, hold on I'm trying to think how we're supposed to do this. Uh, Whisper Sardakoshom for an invite, not me. Okay, so we're gonna need multiple people that will join and make their own raid like like whisper Katie danger for an invite or like Lear Morgwin or like Nathaniel black or like because we need more than one raid we're gonna have many raids here okay hold up there are so many things that need to happen man this UI first of all we're not we're not starting yet we're gonna get in the city the horde are gonna get their layers we're gonna get ours and it'll just be the biggest clash we've ever seen interface what am I looking for raid frames oh it's an edit mode now I love edit mode so much much better Oh, this is still massive. Um, it's so big, guys. Like where do you put your raid frames though? Oh yeah, let's do this. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. We're just gonna make them tiny. Yeah, that'll work. That'll work. I have an add-on that makes it tiny shout out catch oh Yeah, I forgot about the giveaway. Yeah, this guy didn't reply. I completely forgot we're doing a giveaway All right, we're gonna re-roll in five four three two one. Good luck guys Seven years, let's go carrot. Are you here seven years? That's what we're talking about man Guarantee this guy's not a seven-year pot No way! Yo carrot grats dude. That's what's up. That's what's up dude. Yo yo guys You didn't win we'll do more giveaways throughout the day. These are for beta keys All right check your DMs bro, I got you That's what's up dude enjoy enjoy. We'll do more later today Okay, so Alliance, if you want on our layer, whisper any of these guys not in our raid group for an invite. So if you guys are around here, like, and you have our layer, you can just invite more people. So, like, Phantria, I don't, if there's anyone that's not in our raid that wants to lead a second raid, that would be actually amazing. I don't know, like Lacky Rub, Big Tofer. Like, anyone on the layer around here that wants to start a second raid group would be great. Or even a third raid group, a fourth one. Yeah, Showback's here, I believe. Okay, we're gonna double check. We need to double check for all in the same layer too. We're gonna go see if everyone's here. Where are they heading? I think we're just checking to see if we're on the same layer. I think the horde... Dude, there are so many people out here. Oh my gosh. Okay, I think...hold on. Clark 7... I'm seeing horde here. Clark, 7, shaman. I just wanna make sure we're on the right layer. Rejuvenating cow, balancey ball. Okay. We don't wanna kill the horde yet, guys. We're taking a peek to make sure we're on the right layer. I think this is basically the right layer. Is Savik's on this layer? Don't kill the horde this early, like obviously Alliance is far superior and we can kill them anytime we want. That's not the point. The point is we're just double-checking the layer. Okay this is kind of insane. This is so many people, I can't even... Okay. Okay, here we go. Showbeck is in the front lines. Is Showbeck on my layer? Is it Showbeck right here? Oh, he is. Okay, sick. All right, Showbeck's here. Slash... I need your staff. Let us go. Oh, my gosh. would be a night elf warrior. Oh nice cleaver. Nice sword. Bank... Bankai, did I do that right? Okay. Oh my gosh, I love show back dude. Nice pigtail juice. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, Roach show back. I love show back dude. All right, let's get out there. Let's get out there. Is he hating on the pigtails? He complimented my pigtails guys Oh hellstone Guys there's no way horde is gonna be able to stop this push like what is going on here There is so many people out here like there's just no way Where where the horde at like there's no way way. We literally have like thousands of Alliance. Hopefully this is the right, hopefully this This is the right layer. I'm with show back. Alliance is running to the fork right now. I thought the hoarder was supposed to be here guys. We killed them all already. Okay, we need to make sure on the like the horde is on the right layer y'all under thanks to the prime boo. Thanks to the five gifted The horde might be on the wrong layer right now We need to double check layers no horde here anymore Yeah, I'm pretty sure the horde are like yeah, is anyone on horde right now I think they're I think the horde is grouping like right here Like which means they we should have ran into them already We were up by astronaut. Oh, so you guys are up further Okay, maybe we just need to keep going then you guys are out you guys are up more north side of astronaut Okay, so let's just keep moving Layering has been fine like so far. Oh gosh. Oh, that was a tree. Oh, thanks, babe You can like see a little bit Shannon said my head's covering the balloon guys don't even move the balloon to be more visible here now you guys can see it kind of Guys, we got a we got a birthday green juice. Let's go Yes, very nice. Very, very nice. W. Shannon. Green Potion? Yeah. Guys we need to figure out like, dude, we need to figure out the where's the whore that man? Behind us? Okay, let's like, you know, Alliance, let's just kind of group here for a second. on Woods Bridge for a second because like I'm a little confused on where they are so there's some horde behind us or that maybe they're an ash oh there's maybe they're trying to surround us I don't know okay okay okay there's a horde resistance behind us guys wait the horde is actually kind of smart they might be trying to surround us right now from astronaut and this angle it's It's a pincer maneuver, yeah. Oh, Astronar's here. I was thinking of the Horde city up here. Oh, so Horde might actually be behind. Oh my lag. Okay, we're getting hit for a, we got pincered! Oh, we got pincered! Okay, guys, we need to start pushing. Yeah, push towards Astronar. Sorry, yeah, I was thinking of the Horde city. Push towards Astronar then. They're, they're, they're pincering us guys. We need to, we need to make some space here. Let's meet up with the rest of our raid and get back to astronaut. Oh, oh, oh, it's only a few people guys. Oh, the hoarder just completely outnumbered. Yeah, just, just, just meet up with the rest of the raid group. Let's get back on the road. Oh, this is pathetic. Oh, this, this is pathetic. This is a pathetic showing of the hoarder right now. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, there's only there's only a handful of them here though There's a handful there a handful here and a handful behind us But as long as we stay grouped up like this guys they have no chance. Oh, yeah, they're gonna start running Oh, they're they're bubble her thing already, man That's my first Iceland's I sent yeah, these guys are all just edge That guy's dead too Should we just go to the horde town and just like take over their town or what? Maybe we turn around like maybe we chill here for a second at the crossroads. I need to call Savics and figure out like what's going on at the horde. Oh Splinter Tree guards yeah don't worry about it guys just take them out. It's not a big deal. Just kill him. That's it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! Someone named Daddy tried to open up on me. Yeah, I died instantly. Well done, Alliance. Well done. Okay, so there is a pretty big horde resistance behind us. Okay, there might be a bit more this way. I need to call Savics. I really think they might be on the wrong layer or something. Oh Whoa, whoa, whoa, he's opening from behind Okay Maybe we just take over their base. I don't know. I think we do want to stay somewhat locked in and tiled Oh, teleporter. What's up, man? We played together in sod. Dude, so many of these names I'm seeing you guys we played together in sod or we played together in TBC or we played together in for Nomargon or we played together in hardcore or we played together in retail this is sick Like... Avery whimsy fin delight. Hopefully this isn't whimsy coal. Ogre. I'm an ogre now, boys. I'm an ogre. Wait, that's actually kind of sick. You can be an ogre with an item, but they didn't want to put the ogre race in the game, I guess. Okay, okay, we don't want to get too excited here. I would assume all of the horde are in the... Okay, yeah, these guards might just wipe it. Don't don't get too close to these things let the hunters kite them out Don't don't don't get too excited on these guards guys these guards kind of go hard in the paint Because if we start PvP in the horde Okay, this is this is fine the hunters carry a good job team. I just want to make sure on the right layer Okay, I just messaged Savik to see if he can see us. Guys, I really think Horde is on the wrong layer right now. Oh, maybe not. Oh, maybe not. Maybe they're on the right one. Okay, we don't want to get too excited with these guards these guards are like high level they can own us. Oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh They say they do see us. Okay. We're on the right layer then. Oh This is sick. Oh, this is sick. Okay. Oh My gosh, I do not want to push it too much into the town guys because if they can help from the guards We're gonna be screwed, but this oh my oh my god. Okay guys. We need to kite this out a little bit Okay, we don't want to get too excited here, but kill the horn baby. Holy crap. Dude. There's like no lag There's like no lag either Okay, we can kind of play it slow let them funnel in and then we just start annihilating them with AoE Okay, we don't just have to run in and die to the guards the guards We do not want to pull any of the guards the guards will smoke us here. Wow. There's like very little lag This is great I'm actually gonna try to send a blizzard like I I used to use Eureka with Blizzard here, the front line is just melting. Like absolutely melting. Oh, this is actually really sick. I can't believe how minimal life there is. Yeah, I'm getting in there, I'm getting in there. Okay, I blinked out, I blinked out, I blinked out. Oh, they're coming up from the side too. Okay, we might need more Alliance to like there was a lot of these guys they were all just like sitting in their huts. Oh No, oh no, oh no, oh no guys. I need oh insane Bob insane Bob Savick's is here. Oh my god. He's right there. Oh My gosh, oh my they're pushing us back dude Dude! Guys, we got too excited. Holy crap, we got way too excited. What the heck is that? What the heck? Dude, we got so excited. And guys, it was the guards. It was the guard difference. It was 100% the guards. That's not the horde. We didn't lose, but it was the guards, bro. Are you kidding me? Guys we were not prepared like that that's different. Yo we need way more people Um Okay, how am I gonna do this? I'm getting spam whispered saying half of us aren't even on the same layer Okay, how about this? I Don't want to leave this layer if I leave group am I gonna stay on this layer. I'm nervous if I leave group I'm gonna get layered Because we need we need way more alliance guys, this is ridiculous Other layers got smoked. Okay, so we won on the other layers How are the how are we not lagging by the way, how are the servers not lagging this is crazy Okay, I'm gonna try to like leave party hopefully I don't get late Okay, I got insta-layered. That's what I was afraid of. Ha ha ha ha ha! That's it. That's why I haven't just been doing that. Ha ha ha ha! Oh crap. Hold on, I'm trying to get back to that. Shoot. I'm trying to get back to the right layer hold on whoa, whoa, whoa, rotten Rob. I'm trying to get to the right layer here Rob. Oh great. Now we're dead on the wrong layer. Okay, so this is perfect. This is great. Okay, this is just great. Nice. This is very good. Now we're dead on the, we're not even on the right layer. Is this for sure the right layer? Guys, now we can win this fight. Okay, all, all Alliance meet an astronaut and we'll do the same thing they did. Guys, they were sitting in a city waiting And they had help from the angles. It's hard to explain. All the Alliance, let's get to Astrinar. Once we're all in Astrinar, we'll just group up and push just like they did. It's easy. Okay. Okay. Yo, it's hard. Zara, I've got 500 horde chasing me right now, man. We've got to rally the Alliance or something. Okay, so all the Alliance we need a rally in astronaut and actually like dude There's so many alliance and they're all on different layers. That's that's that's the co-pom on right now All right, like that has to be it because there's no way we would have actually lost that battle So I think we need to get everybody on the layer. Yeah back to astronaut. Yeah, you can message me I I envy I have the auto invite things set up. Okay, but anything anything other than I envy you won't get the auto invite Okay, um, so here's the thing if I leave the group I just dropped a layer So how do we actually get more we need more people on this layer to like like make groups or something I'm just gonna as soon as this one fills up. I'm just gonna keep dropping and then and then making a new one Okay, so I'll just stick in this one. I'll stay in this one. Let me make you leader of this one Okay You're staying this one. Yeah, no, we didn't actually lose that fight So like the actual world PEP event starts at three which is in 15 minutes Yeah, we haven't started yet guys. People need to really watch their language these days. I mean, well people are getting That's crazy weird, but we haven't even done anything like oh, no, I'm gonna get I mean Honestly, we just wanted it that was like a whole layer test is what we were trying to see is like that was a test actually Yeah on the layer it was a successful test too. Yeah, that's good. They're very successful All right. This raid is about to fill up. We're at astronaut right now So we need a regroup astronaut Okay, okay, okay I'm taking the long way around because there is a lot of red out here man Lots of red Okay, so you're gonna you're gonna leave groups in and then fill a second I just left I'm on the second group now Okay, if you guys want an invite what message? sardocco shum for an invite and Then just wish from God and V We've got a big war going for 500 on 500 right now and we got everyone in the same layer and Zark, can you believe there's no lag? This is insane. I don't know how they managed to do no lag. Yeah. I don't understand it. This is... I've never seen anything like it. It's so good. Dude, there are so... There's so many hordes out here. I'm scared. Sarkdark, hold me. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't go through the city. Dude, I didn't think there was going to be this many hordes showing up. I thought we were just I thought we were definitely just gonna go over there and like okay wipe them up And now they actually are putting up a real battle. So we did Wiped us up like we were owning them and then and then we ran into the city and died so Yeah, we probably shouldn't we shouldn't have done that. I think we kind of just gave it to him They're terrible call from the Alliance leadership. I'm not gonna say any names, but awful decision to go there Yeah, I Honestly only reason I went there is I just wanted to see if we were on the right layers Savics was all hush hush about the whole thing until we all died, so I don't know man This is not good here, it's really not good here Oh no guys, this is this is all bad here Okay, well um a spirit res that's not a good idea is it Okay, nice wet message sardocco shawm for invite guys this raid is full if I leave the raid I get layered so I have to kind of stay here what I can do is Kick people that are in this raid. Oh Wait, but you guys might get the people that I just kicked might have been layered off Hmm. Yeah, you have to keep messaging Sardak O'Sham. I think that's the key because if I kick people they might get layered too So Sardak O'Sham is just gonna keep making raids Rip those guys yeah, that might have might have ruined them Dude, I don't know why we ran it and died like that alliance come on We need to meet up an astronaut Are you an astronaut Zara? I am working there I'm working my way there that the problem is like every time I see horde. I actually start to lag and Okay, the lag is actually was getting me killed unfortunately, so okay, that's yeah, listen I need you to invite me back. I might have got dropped Group hopping give a spot in your raid Sardaco shum. Yeah, let me get you Sardaco shum So how are the horde getting everyone of the same layer because if I leave I get layered if you leave you get layered how are people actually We need volunteers to make raids that are already on our layer. That's what we need. I think so. I think so like Like this guy right drop it are you need to start inviting people men I'm here now. I see everybody. So if I if everybody disappears that means I get layered Okay, I mean okay. I just got layered so yeah, I'm gonna be back now Yeah People that are not in the raid that are on the right layer need to we need to just spam invite. That's what we need Okay Yeah, dang That's what Savick said apparently, to get everyone on the same layer, because I mean, I don't know about you, but like that fight did not feel like, that felt like a 100 versus like 800 or something, like it was not that close. No, we had, I didn't realize how many they had inside of that camp, and I was just trying to, yeah, I think they were hiding in the camp, which really would happen, Because I was just kind of like, are they even in there? And then I kind of poke my head in and it's like, yeah, that's what happened. Oh, crap. How can we, if you're on, if you're looking at like mine or Zara's stream, you probably want to message somebody an Alliance name that you see and maybe ask them to invite you. Yes, that is the best way to do it. If I drop, it won't, it won't, it'll kick me off the layer now, because it's full. Mancrix, Dad, Larvin, Larvson, C-Dank, Alpha. Like any of these guys can invite you, I think. It's our mom with a 109 month saying happy birthday, I think, it's our mom. Yeah, we need everybody back at astronaut if possible guys try to roll together Yeah, we need to get a show back in this call too, I think We need like as many people On the same layer as possible to see them work guys that the guys the real world PvP event is starting in 11 minutes Okay, like the first one was a test This one this is a real one starting soon Those are not average a lot and they're not excuses I'm saying guys though. We were just checking to see if everyone was in the same spot and they are so now We can actually group up and try Um, simple 10. Oh, how about how about this? If you guys are on our layer and you want to make a raid, send me a whisper so I can broadcast your name so everyone can get in your group like die. Roche. Larvin Larson. Brothers show back. Get back to astronaut. I have a fleet of refuge. We're making our way. Okay, we'll all get to astronaut and then we'll kick some horde butt. Dude, that was embarrassing. Showback, we got smoked. We did get smoked. We did get smoked. I was telling the chat, though, that was more of a test just to see if we were on the right layer. The real battle is about to start right here. Yes. And the smoke session has not ended, by the way. Now it's our turn. That's right. Oh, that's what I like to hear. Showback, are you 100% on the right layer? I think so. I haven't layered after the big battle. We're finding our way back to the city right now. I gave you leader of that last group So we can I so I could start another group I but now when I drop when I drop group to make another one is kicking me off the layer, so I can't make any more groups I'm on your layer or no no no you are on the right layer. Yeah, I think are you an astronaut showbacker now? Yeah, I'm making my way back. We got a lot of guys that died. I'm just trying to get us all back safely Okay, we're just battling through attrition of horde all on the road dude. It's like Wait a minute. So I'm in astronaut, but I'm not seeing like that many horde on the road No, the horde is all the way back at their camp. Oh At their king to meet. Yeah, they're at their camp. Yeah So we're we're all just regathering right now Okay, okay, so astronaut is packed wait horde you guys should probably come up to our base this time because I mean That's what we did to you guys last time. I'm just saying These are accurate comms. I'm just saying to yeah Okay, cool Drop group and maybe make another one real fast and see if it kicks me Okay I'll save a spot. No, you don't have to re-invite me So we need volunteers that are like out here that are not in raids to make more raids like that's what we need Let me know when you're gonna type it so I can leave Invite Sartako, Sean ready One more time and I'm a clip lead right before okay, look at the auto invites coming through just try Um, yeah, it's cooked guys. I can't invite anymore. So yeah, I'm going to mess with you later We there's so many people though on different layers that want to get here. Oh seeding alpha message seeding seeding alpha Okay, that's great. We can fill up seeding strupe. Cool. And then showback is your group full Oh, yep We need volunteers to start groups. Okay, Pigtail Hurt says I have space in my group. Pigtail Space Hurt. Yeah, this is actually a really good stress test. It's true. Am I excited for any other classes brah? I'm stoked for Pali warrior rogue mage and priest all of us on fun Yeah, I'm doing warrior rogue. I want to do a melee hunter no pet melee hunter See that looks like a lot of them and then instant cast only and Using a sword on mage and warlock trying to do like a battle mage Okay, they were lock I just thought just instant cast like Nova fire blast ice lands and run up and swing on them It's now because of like the new like scrolls that you saw No, just because I've always wanted to do a battle mage, and I love like I'll read Was what read that scroll I kill my oh Wow Yeah, you can use a dagger and actually get some benefit from it. I guess I Just am so Mind-blown at all of these different like items. They're adding to the game and what type of risk reward builds We're gonna be able to do It's like so many different possibilities now Oh, dude, I have a little frog following me now sick, okay, um Um, if you guys have any more space, just let me know if we can get more people in this layer. I hope I hope from the same layer still report up to astronauts. So we'll see if we see each other. Bro, can we talk about the lighting in an ash and bill right now with the light piercing through the forest? Oh my God. Dude, every like two minutes, I just stop in my tracks and just like look at the world is I just like I feel like the biggest shill. I'm just like sitting there. Wow. Yeah. So good. And two minutes later, I did the same thing. I keep saying the same thing to you. I think we're on the same layer. I think we are. This is you guys. Yeah. See you. We got a pretty juiced up campfire in the back. If everybody wants to come make some friends real quick and see some buffs. Yeah. Friendship in the back. Friendship in the back. If you guys see anyone just start clicking on them and buffing them to like the more buffs we have better Look at this man guys. We're actually playing We're actually playing It's everyone on the same layer now. Let's see. I feel like I feel like there's a lot of alliance on different layers still There's gotta be at least there's gotta be at least a couple hundred alliance trying to get on this layer I'm just getting in by messages non-stop I wish I could invite you guys, but if I leave this group, I cannot invite you because I'll get kicked off the layer Say if you whisper me I have two slots first come first serve two slots Message show back Yeah, we kind of Kind of need if anybody here wants, you know if anybody here wants to start a group I can message them your name If you guys I'm sorry I Just don't push it's not lagging. This is crazy on the move. Okay prepare yourself Okay, so it looks like Savick's wants us to fight to that like three-way crossroad area Like by Rainwood retreat. I think kind of like where Darth is on our raid right now But I think we should get like more people in the group first to Or more people on the layer Yes, you think has a group it's eating through full Wait, what if I leave and then I have someone who isn't in a raid group and then I just like feel the raid group Or how about how about you? Oh? Oh? Yeah? Yeah So it's not in a group here. Yeah. Yeah, just start off go like find I don't know like I'm just gonna get it off. I Need well, I can have one person layer me back and then they can give me that raid group Yeah, and then my auto-invite will just fill it. Yeah, that's a great idea. All right. Yeah I actually can't take any credit someone whispered me that so Shout out to that was a great idea a very good idea. This was whose idea was this? This was grants idea So shout out to grants Okay, I'm gonna drop can somebody invite me back to this layer Anyone with like an empty group I see someone who's bought who's not integrated group on this layer Okay scooter a scooter Okay, I drop who to invites me Try again. Try again. Guys, Alliance, I think we see more people on this one layer. I think that's literally it. We all of our raids are across all these layers. That's not copium, guys. That's what's happening. I can't wait. I can't wait. Dude, I need someone on the right. Is anyone on the right layer on the correct layer that's by themselves could invite someone. I can get a whole nother rate. I could get multiple raids on that layer. Let's see. I can't believe how little live there is for this many people. Yeah, even with all of them, like all of us here. Dude, it just, it, there was like five people that were in a group. a group they invited me and it pulled them to my layer oh no looking green sure you want to try to invite me back and see if that this works yeah I'll see I'll try to invite you I Says you're in a group Yeah, I'm just a client in advice there. I got it okay, it It brought me back. So it's like it's like a majority rule. No. Yeah, I don't know, huh? You brought them to this that's so so weird Hmm, okay All right guys if you want to get to the layer just kind of look on the screen message by Donnie A.I. Slop, Hennie Hurtig, like any of these guys that are not in our raid, hopefully there's like just, we need more people, if you are here not in a raid group and want to volunteer to fill a raid group, I can broadcast your name, we need more people starting raid groups. We need to get everyone on this layer then we can push in. What are they doing? We're just doing a massive world pp battle W stress test. There it is Um If I start kicking people from my group they get layered off that's how I used to do it Well, we might just have to go with what we have Dude, I think do they have a lot of people here Yeah, but they also have guards are true. I mean friendship now. We're in comms try that is true Man I can't believe there's not more people that want to make raid groups So we seem like a couple people to send 40 man invites and we're good Yeah, but do we want to win just with sheer numbers or do we want to win while being the underdogs? True. I say we freaking go here and now. We just got sweet. We're freaking rally everybody up. We lock in. We give pings. We dive on markers and we go dude. I mean that's a good work. We need to like have a Zarya 2 montage. I need some blinkin' Novas. Dude, Sardakos in the wind fury is getting the damage in for I blinked in last time and died instantly I look like you in that battle of North watch from the other month Died instantly Should we all move up this bridge? Let's all move up to that bridge. Let's and to see what our numbers look like I think we're looking really light compared to horde though Yeah, we might be we are the light though boys. Come on I hold on hold on let's let's sit on the bridge for a second. We the group is the problem too Are you saying we don't have enough? We don't have enough to turn around Zahra Yeah, I'm gonna go around. This isn't enough. Alright man, like we can try to find it out. I'm just saying like We have so many people that are trying to get here too. I feel bad People are just like trying to get to our layer dude this is the battle for realms deep dude this is the battle for the lands okay we didn't we didn't ever want to put out a good we didn't everyone to group um like right now there's a lot of people out front like c-dank alpha complete troll this guy's way too out there he's gonna get himself killed oh there's no real assassins are striking from the sides careful nice nice uh yeah we gotta be real careful when we run up on the big group of horde yeah Yeah, yeah, I think I think the people in the front should kind of just wait Yeah, we needed can we death doc? Can we slow it down? Yeah, is there is there like a point? We need to just stop so then everyone realizes that we're regrouping Are you? Yeah, here I can put a star just things are and all the different groups we're regrouping on czar so I stand still Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get like kind of the top here Okay, okay, let's see that let's just jump here for a second Okay sick We're all regrouping regroup regroup regroup Okay on us. It's just like already looking better than last time. I think oh, yeah He's great. Pink system is good now if we we can do one or two things. I think if we go left It's a cinematic route. Yeah I Listen bro, I'm just trying to get the scene to be right. No, I think we I think we get to the crossroads and kind of reassess from there But like we slowly move forward together now now the Rp1 if we all walk we all walk everyone can keep up They kind of like kind of we'll get there so he says so he walking dude Okay, here we go All right, okay, this looks kind of good so far where is have excited where is he at? I think the hoarders in the base, but I think we want crossroad area I Think we just wait on the crossroads forever like we don't actually like the crossroads should be where we fight Okay Is it where it splits off towards fell wood at Rainwood retreat? Yes. Yes, right there is where we just wait and wait for them to come I mean another but I think we need another regroup Yeah, good Let's read the crossroads like once we get to the crossroads everybody does we just wait there? They're at the crossroads apparently so I think we need to regroup Okay, okay Hold hold yeah, I'm gonna jump on this a rock thing that I have a star on my head right here Let's hold here for a second hold hold hold hold hold. Yeah, I've been thinking pink pink pink Yeah, because if they're actually at the crossroads right now like we we we need to be together for this They're there and ready. They're ready for us guys. Oh my no lag by the way No lag with all these people. This is crazy Yeah, I have boys sharpen your blades use your core stones I have some dollar and sharp on me right now if anyone needs Okay, scrolls potions Hellstone hell stones who health stones are big. Yeah health stones are big What do you guys think about this? We try to out heal them and we let like mages hunters warlocks do rain of fires and Volley's and stuff and then everyone that can heal you should heal Yeah, yeah I'm heels everywhere even even like in handshine with I'm gonna be healing. We just gotta you just got to keep people alive Okay, bro. I need a lot of people target focus focus target show back because I'm a blackout and go in brah I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm blacking out and going in On me dude freedom chains Okay, okay, this is looking deez This is looking like way better than the last time. I think yeah This is right, okay Slow slow approach then okay. Here we go. I'm feeling pretty ready. Okay steady I'm moving very slowly very slowly. We don't know I see seeding up there. Absolute troll We do not want to be that far slow everyone This is good Let this clash go into eternal history of Azeroth. Oh my gosh, it's the first great war of astronaut The first great wall every name will be remembered etch yourself into eternity remember that This is why we fight on this day because we see glory for eternity I'm pumped. I'm okay. I imagine we're careful Careful at the triangle wait, I thought they were the tree they might drop down from the tree careful Oh, I see one. It's a hunter pet. Oh spy I thought they were supposed to be here from the tower. Careful in that tower. I don't like a tower Wait, we don't want to get pincers. We do not want to get pincers like last time The hills have eyes Where are they we're being washed. We don't want to run into their town like last time We we want a fair fight out here. Hold here then hold here then maybe hold here. Yeah, let's hold. Let's hold This is supposed to be where we fight them hunters eagle eyes. We need signs eagle eyes eagle eyes This looks good give us vision hunters What do you see I think you're trying to bait us into their town again? No? Five bridge, oh, they might be at this next crossroads up here But that's a more house. Yeah, I mean, I guess we could try that. Hey, let's go Let's go look guys. We need a regroup though I'm gonna move a very slowly like if you're in front of me you you should be even slower Everyone behind move up move up. We need to be they need to be tight here There's a ping and forward Regeneration cow has been marked. I think they're right up here. I think they're right up here at this next bridge This is a bridge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah guys don't just run in and get yourself killed here we play as a team we play as a group as a squad showback is gonna be the first one to die let him die first then the rest of us can play healers on me healers on me I'm black and out once I see him here they are this is where they are the bridge then slight regroup slight regroup regroup before the bridge guys before the bridge slight regroup don't cross that boys don't cross take the left take the left oh we're already doing a seal team six flame let's go team left seal team left come on okay team six left side all right okay okay we can we can get over the bridge right over the bridge yep oh yeah oh yeah now take the top yeah I'm on the front line. He was on me. Pre-hot me. Pre-hot me. You're an animal. Sorry, where's your staff? I need you. I'm right behind you, brother. I'm right behind you. They're on the hill. You see that? Hold on. Team six. We're blinding them. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. We need blizzards guys hold hold the line we need blizzards Are you kidding me? Okay, they're definitely some life now definitely some life Oh my gosh, I can't everybody keep casting blizzard don't stop casting blizzard when you're not holding the fire bleed it oh my god this is world of war craft this is world of war craft okay i have a blizzard down just kill one at a time we do not need to push into them yeah yeah just hold the flame this is like 300 keep blizzard line i don't know where the line is Okay, this is actually looking good. This is looking really good. Keep healing guys keep healing if you can heal you gotta keep the warriors up Don't focus on them. I Am gonna get up on this hill and start blizzarding like crazy the bridge. I like the bridge. I like the bridge a lot. Oh my gosh. The bridge. We're big. What is this? How many are there? That way you can swim out. We need to swim out. We need to swim out. Swim out. Swim out. It's right, Graham! Basin maneuvers! It's basin maneuvers! It's right, Graham! And cross the bridge and... Yeah, we should... Oh, dude! There's so many of them! You're kidding me! That's Ashtonar! Don't turn your camera around! Ashtonar has a real good right now. Don't turn your camera around whatever you do! Turn them back! Oh, they hired the Furbogs! They hired the Furbogs! They hired the Furbogs! I'm so close on the whole side are you kidding me? Don't look at your heart stone. Oh my gosh. Don't turn around. Don't turn around. Don't look back. They came in another two raids from behind. Yeah, yeah, the Horde, I just, I mean, yeah, I'm not surprised. Horde always fighting numbers, right? I mean, unbelievable. Oh, no, I've been slowed. It's called the layers list. Go on. I will sacrifice myself for you. Go. Oh my god, that is a lot of Horde. Wow. Wow. Yo, guys, what's the excuse here? Honestly, what's the excuse? This is embarrassing. Honestly, dude, if we had a couple more layer slots, I mean, literally the Horde just hogged everything. They hoarded all the layer slots, literally. Yeah, that's true. Oh, man. Oh my gosh. I Do there's so many people just whispering that you get on our layer, but we can't yeah That's it. That's literally it Thanks, baby next time we got to get here earlier and get a couple more raid groups going before the horde takes all the layer slots That's what we got to do next time. Yeah Yeah Unless yeah, dude Yeah, that's tough that is very tough No, that shit was absolutely epic. I've never seen a flow of cinematic battle before in World of Warcraft at that level with that many players with like minimal lag. I can't believe, yeah, I can't believe it's actually doable because normally every time this has happened in the past, everyone gets layered off and you can't actually fight and then it's just so laggy, you just get lagged out, but that actually kind of worked. I could still move and cast and press buttons, so. That'll be it. I was like, in a year, a thousand people, I swear, stacked up on each other. It felt like, I don't know. That was a while. Yeah, we, I mean, we can still maybe regroup here in the city and like do a little, a spin maneuver and push them back. We, we could, if we could get them to regroup. Yeah, we're playing into their hand again. Yeah, we're playing into their hand again, man. We gotta let them come to us. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, we ran into them and died twice now. Why are we the ones pushing in when they have the numbers? Yeah, they should come to us. They should come to us. We're going to be in astronaut guys. Yeah, come to us. Gorilla warfare. We're just playing into their hands. We got to know. Oh, no, they caught up to me. Oh, it's the torn plane striders, bro. You can't run from them. It is all the torrents. It is all the torrents. You can't run from them, dude. Oh, gosh, no. All the torrents got me. all the Torrens oh my gosh all right we got a wall of the dead we've got a wall of the dead back on the road balling trying to make it back to astronaut now okay so we get to astronaut we need more people on the layer and then we just like spit on them with the cards help and then we just crush them like because we can pincer them like they pincer us right yep we can yeah I can't believe this oh crap wait how do you guys planning it back in the city because there's I just thought of a strat we should have had everyone set their hearthstone to astronaut a little bit nice we could have reset the reset the fight quicker okay I'm almost back back in the city here guys we still need we still need more alliance on this layer I'm pretty sure that's what's happening we need way more lines oh miss sorry I died for you four times make it hot guys died four times for me already he's about to die again father faith no oh my gosh oh my goodness all right here we go okay okay now now we we can we can regroup here much better much better okay we need volunteers who can invite more people to actually do have some room in my raid too now but like not many spots like five or something the horde could wipe you in town no I don't believe it Okay, so I think my raid's full again, but there should be room in other raids. There should be hopefully room in other raids we need more okay look who can make another raid is anyone out of a group right now please there's gotta be someone I have two spots in my raid to okay is there anyone else that like isn't a real grim boys it is all out Hell trying to get back to astronaut. You can do it show back. You can do it. I believe in you, man Where are you? Astronaut sitting at a campfire. It's warm and toasty over here, man. We're feeling good Okay, I'm gonna need north right north right get off of that campfire and come rescue the bunk high and Everyone else because it is absolute chaos out here. It is overrun with word. I need y'all I I We are right at the crossroad of Rainwood Retreat we are right there we need back up their split I just need y'all to get out here You're fucking multi 15 rank one. Yes, I do Okay, we're regrouping man. How about this? What if everyone takes a resick? It's only 10 minutes We just get resick back in the city 10 minutes to regroup and then we let them push over there though We're spawning over there We're on the the far side res tiger. We can't res will teleport us back We're stuck. We need we need help Someone said correct him. It's actually 20 time rank one I'm not gonna correct show back for first incorrectly saying only 15 rank one titles No, I appreciate it. I appreciate the correction because that even proves my point more come on I don't know. Everyone looks at that campfire. Rally them up and it comes. Save your comrades. We need you. We are lost in this forest. Surrounded by Horde. Hmm. It's like I'm Frodo and Samwise Ganji and there's orcs everywhere. I need you, Ergon Gandalf. I need you. Let me. Let me. Let me take a peek. Well, guys, let's how about everyone that's here that we Now okay, we're not like this squad. We're not we're not doing it. I made it back. I made it back Okay, so doctor. This is a rescue mission. Okay, we're not actually gonna go too crazy here Yeah, it's just small death ball small death ball small death ball rescue mission. Get me out. No one's dying All right. This is like a hit-and-run kind of a thing. We're just helping this one together rescue We rescue this priest right here. We rescued him. I think we gave him a private showback. This is exactly that's right We're gonna save we're gonna save as many people as we can. We're not we're gonna get killed though good right this is fine don't go in if we can't get everyone out yeah yeah yeah yep this is fine okay on the road we can handle these guys there's a guy sub-cyro I'm wanting right now save him save him same save the zeezy guy yep yep one down that's all it takes that's all it takes now the momentum shifting yeah yeah yes hordes how does it feel Number chord, huh? We're running them down. There we go. There we go. Okay, good. All right showback. We're coming for you showback I'm right at the crossroads once you get to that cross section Okay, this is good. Yeah. Yeah, we're almost we're like almost halfway to the crossroads The horror kind of dropping like flies these guys actually aren't as tough as they look at all My charges squirrel wait, are we are we getting baited again? We're not getting baited to charge them again. Are we? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is a show back in the road. Rescue mission, stay on the road, rescue mission. Rescue mission, okay. Any chance I could try a drop group and then re-invite if I get layered again? You can, yeah. You want to come to my group? Well, no, no, I'm saying I'm gonna drop and see if I can get another group going. Oh, you're gonna try. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Let me know. Uh, yeah, I got insta-layered, unforge. Yeah, dude, it's, it's brutal. It's it's big in the light I Could try to drop again. I've already tried like three times probably more Okay, we're almost to the crossroads show back how's it looking over there? I'm in a full fear. I'm in a full fear. Looky grim full fear on me. Good. It's gracious Okay guys seriously coming in do not pass the crossroads. We can't just run in the tie again This is just a rescue mission for the boy All right, and then we're gonna we're gonna chill and we need to get more alliance on our side One please I try to resist a brother and that was running and then he continued to run not helping fight Take this moment. Oh my gosh, I guess so does on its way. I wish Adam to this call I Asked for aid earlier today. He's like I'm dancing in Storm and right now. Sorry a little busy I'm adding them right now. I'm adding them right now. Okay Man I feel so bad by the way for all the guys who are trying to come through man Sorry, you can't get on this layer guys. I know that there's hundreds of you out there. Okay. Okay. There's the horde There's the horde guys do not push into this do not push into this. Oh, these are the furbogs. What the heck man? Get killed to kill the furbogs miss ridiculous Hey, see it's a showback When you're at the crossroads pass it and go to the left inside the pit, but careful We can get trapped in there. That's where I'm at. Wait, what do you inside the pit? What does that even mean I know it's a really unfortunate spot, but I'm inside a pit. It's not ideal Bro, we're at the crossroads. Just get here man. Get here. No, I go a little further to the left inside the pit That's where I'm at. What's in my body and raise me up? You are a troll, man Rescue mission saving private show back Yeah, okay, I think I think holding this right here is really ideal for right now So the you didn't come this far just to come this far. Sorry The fuck's going on here to we have some unfortunate news man that the horde the horde got a lucky flank on us They took us out by complete chance and now they think they're better than us. We might need some backup on Alliance Okay, what do you want me to do about this? I don't know like moonfire thorns. I've seen your thorns Everyone's spamming it to me. Spellpower boosted thorns on everyone. Yeah, thorns the whole raid. I am down to, OK, invite me. I will thorns everyone. It actually probably would do insane value. It probably would. What's your name? What's your name? Go, let's go, let's go, let's go. It's Gay Kitten. I'm sorry. Should have guessed. Nice. I think it's Gay Kitten. Gay Kitten. OK, Gay Kitten. Gotcha, got you. Any way we could return to Astronar and clear the road. Oh my god. Hold on, we're running, we're running, we're running. We're trying to meet up with you right now. We have a little team. You're coming back towards Astrinar right now, right? Yeah, we are running back to Astrinar right now. You got rest? Okay, nice. Okay, Astrinar. We got pocket horde, we got alliance that we need to pick up at Astrinar. We got horde on the road in between. Yeah, horde on the road is also picking some of us off too. This is looking a little grim. Wait, you're dying again? Show back, show it. You have to stop yelling, man. No, other people, other people that we're saving. Other people are saving. OK. Yeah, we're all good now. We're all good. Wait a minute. Why don't we we should we should just hold rain would retreat. This is lit. Well, we have to we have to pick up all the alliance waiting at astronaut right now. Maybe they could do it. Should we get all the night elves to stealth on top of this tree when the war cross over? We drop down on them and we use the tree to bait them in this tower. That would actually be kind of sick. Do you want to use do you want to do a tower fight? I Think like if we can funnel them up to us That's what we do like every time we ran into them and died We need one thing that like we can defend and they run into us, right? Yeah, so I think we just hold rainwood We hold redwood then it's been decided Yeah, the POI we shall protect the moon. Well, yeah All halves on the tree and stealth. We were there's a bunch of people that are stuck inside of Ashtonar like the majority of a lot of us are at Ashtonar I got a hundred here. How many are there? Wait, there's one in between. There's four in between it like about a group of 50 horde in between We're trying to push them back. Let's go kill the horde in between just take just to get the other alliance here And then we'll rainwood. Yeah, let's go. Let's go back to forces. I'm with the Ashtonar crew right now now. We're going to be a rescue mission of Sardaco. You know, I've got at least 50, 50 horde right now, 50 horde in between me and you. They're, they're, we're pushing them back now. We're pushing them back. And then we should strike while their numbers are are in in samples yes okay I see a couple horde but I mean they're falling quick operation save sergeant docker run the small there's a small death ball of them over here by astronaut you're gonna we're gonna run into them they're gonna fall instantly as soon as you as soon as they hit as soon as you guys get here Loons live pieces through the forest for us. She watches over us We have so many people So are y'all just been getting butt fuck like what's happening? Where are we grouping? What's the plan? No, we're not getting owned man I know what's happening is they got some lucky flanks once or twice, but alliance is way stronger way better We're outnumbered obviously because horde comes in numbers, but why do we keep losing if we're better? I Yeah, yeah, sorry he's like in the back and stuff like definitely not in the I'm in the front always dying No, one's back here. I am in the middle and it's like there's nothing I can do It's hard to explain and we need your thorns to like where were you on the first couple fights Shouldn't you be like the class mage coordinator? Isn't this all dependent on use are you so you're the problem? No, I am not the problem. I can assure you that all the fight is the mage guy And this is a mage fight. Is it not this is not a mage fight This is a thorns fight and you weren't there for us man. Not like now The ones could have been a difference makers doesn't know anything against our cane explosion. It's hitting that button over No, it's number. It's a we's a we's changed True. It's me. We only hits four targets now basically so does our okay. Can you read our can explosion for me? Did you guys just run past us? No, no, I cannot Well, I am selfing and there's like 20 horde running past me We're almost nearing astronaut. We own a different way. Wait wait wait I'm not different. We're gonna invite me again to try and force layer me if possible Okay, I invited you again Listen, here's what I think you do sorry. I think you make a separate raid of mages and mages only You need to be like the bomb squad. Oh, hold on. Are you all here pushing the horde? They're all running. Are you all with this group? Okay, I Think we might put on a different layer. No, no, I like so it is just way behind us. I think I think I see you We need slowly rooting everybody Yeah, just don't just don't die before the fight like that's what they keep doing they keep kind of like picking us off We need that we need we need to like have them come through a tiny little funnel corridor And we just kill them one by one. I think they're soda you see them right? They're all behind you No, they're I'm killing them all right. They're all dying. You're solo killing all of them. Yes. I myself That's why we invited them. Wow really nice job in incredible There is Are we regrouping at astronaut cuz that's what everyone looks like what we're doing right now? Yeah, it's probably the sweetest spot I Was gonna so to say he killed all of them already so I'm pretty sure you're on our layer. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're on my layer. Maybe they're soda. I'm trying to log out. Log in to see if I can get back on the Zars layer. Okay. I'm just going to stop moving. Can we just group up on gay kitty? Everyone look for gay kitty? I'm going to be on top of you in a second here, man. Excellent. Everyone get on top of gay kitty. Great. I'll be right there. I'm going to start buffing thorns. Great. I'm gonna be on top of you in a second here, man excellent everyone get on top of gay kitty great I'll be right there here for him. I'm gonna start buffing thorns great. I love that Excellent Okay, it's looking like I'm back on your layer. Are you guys on the road running east Savick's message me and said that Zaryu keeps ditching showback. He's pirate software thoughts I just saved Showback's life. He was getting like graveyard you wouldn't even go in the pit, by the way, you got all the way. I'm not going in the pit. I'm like, go in the pit. I'm in the pit. I was holding the. I'm like, oh, what do you want from me? Save me. Huh? Okay, so that you are on a different layer. Crap. I am. Okay. Well, but you're right. I think okay here okay here you want to know the real issue soda the layer I believe might be full and it's full of horde players so we can't get any of the alliance players on this layer like that's the that's the real issue no no cope so it's weird I mean we're winning our fight over here congrats man that's huge okay so maybe we just all go to soda's layer and then kill a couple horde and say we won we could do that we could tell sadly we could have we could pick a different layer but we have to layer every now and as everyone's already here i will say we have influenced a war on every single layer there is and uh did did relogging did relogging fix it for you sardakum no i think i'm still on so there's layer but i can't tell so the only way i can tell is if i'm near you i can't get near you because the different layer is like fill a horde on the road so unless we all just stood in the astronaut then I could experiment for a bit all right yeah I typed it maybe try re-logging and then I'll kick you and then re-invite you or something all right re-logging I'm gonna kick you as well when you're on let me know guys, we need more people on this layer somehow, but I think the layers full and it's full of horn. So I don't know. I don't know. They're outnumbering you. Yeah. I think they have like run away. Man, it's crazy. Should we just hold it astronauts? We could get a layer situation figured out. I think we're holding the rain would retreat. That's where one joint looks like on this layer. Yeah, rain would rain would I could try to make it there on this layer. I have one spot if you want to try to get into my group so I'll go to buy me gamer got it. I'm in this raid. I hope that works. It is not working. I'm on a different layer killing ignorant fat ugly girl. That's their name. I think I think this layer is literally 100% I think we've found out today that there is a hard cap on the layer on this number of people. How to kick someone off that layer again. How do we do that? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh my gosh. I got some bad news. They are, they are trying to take Rainwood retreat from us right now. that's not bad news that's good news father about a battle all right show back yeah hold it down yeah dude yeah we're down to one this is ten to one oh my listen you've seen better odds you've gone rank one what's the probability of that exactly so you got this this is even worse now that sodas here this is way worse than before oh we have W What do you mean? Myself I got you hold Rainwood do not push hold Rainwood Let them come to us AOE hold Rick McConnell is out front kill McConnell at least kill me see him at least kill McConnell He bubbled reinforcements reinforcements are on the way. So we see them Savics is here. We're flanking them. We're flanking them. Give us a second. Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. Okay blisters blisters blisters here we got a couple of boys we even have enough oh my god this is looking so grim yeah this is definitely looking we got to keep holding we got to keep holding okay we're holding I'm in the tower just passing blizzard bro oh that must be nice I'm on the fucking ground floor so come on Come on, man. Oh my gosh, everyone in the tower man. We all might do there's so many of them Okay, we hold the tower hold the tower hold the tower hold the tower Yo careful they're pushing up so are they're pushing in yeah, they're pushing in showback Thanks, Soda, thanks Soda I Tap back in and you're all dead as soon as I like he sees so All I was winning on this layer guys. Oh our layer. We're destroying them. We won But we're not even destroyed on ours. Maybe run a base of maneuvers. Maybe we might have won This is a real layer honestly like we're dominating this one. I call it a victory for us Yeah, I see a lot of corpses on my mini map I mean, if I had thorns, I think I was gonna go crazy there, but... I would love to, sorry you, I fucking love to. Alright, you're actually there and you're still losing. So what's that? They're cannibalizing my corpse, this feels awful. I'm not getting teabagged. They're eating me. Oh no, not like this. Yup, 07. Oh, there's the Conk stun and it gets the proc. That's fine. Just live. Do one without me. I Say I say We pick a new layer We go to like sodas layer a new spy in the world and we attack horde somewhere else because I got like look We've got the layers here warm we it's not a fair fight. It's like we're down like like hundreds of players. I Think we turn this into an actual mini game and we we fucking coordinate with the horde and say you know what? The whoever's dominating the tower is winning rather than this push and pull. Just try and hold a position Well, I mean we can do rainwood retreat. Yeah, yeah, we could do that But like there are guards at rainwood retreat. No, no, it's actually perfect. Yeah, all right The owners of rainwood retreat are winning. Yeah, we're never gonna push them because the layers full bro Again swap layers and we make the new layer unless they have so many people people. If we layer everybody off this layer and go to a different one. But this entire time that you guys have been talking, it's just been a sea of horde this entire conversation. It's still they're still flooding in. Yeah. Or we could pick a brand new kind of location so that we get a recent appearance. North watch keep, North watch keep. There's no watch keep alliance holds north watch keep and horde attacks I mean, I'm I'll head there right away And we're going to layer we go a new layer. All right. We get like a totally fresh layer for an invite before the plebs whisper me Crap I just oh so to get the add on that is auto invite if you want to are we going to take rest sickness earth get over there Okay, it calls it's called invite on whisper get off curse forge three words invite on whisper all right guys we're moving to north watch we're not like so we need a new location and have Alliance go in the tower we'll pick a new layer I'm not pretty base flight path well we can run from astronaut to might be a blood that's pretty close but yeah yeah right might be although on a different layer off yeah it's bad we just got a layer off hey kitty I sent you a whisper just you guys want to see this layer life I literally have to call me I'm V so you can get into this layer because I'm much so does I literally have to call soda kitty because his name is like sorry you let me know a few layers before we waste our time. Um, okay, I'll let you know in this sec here. Oh, I see you, you did. Okay, nice, yeah. Alright, uh, so how does this add on works, Artako? Or what if I just invite you and give you a lead? That'll probably be fine. Yeah, that works. What's your, just whisper me, gay kitty? Tell me your name. We want every one of us to have our own raid, so we can get most amount of people on that layer. Once it fills up, you can't drop raid. There's so many people in this layer. This is also a stacked layer by the way full of horde Wow, there's so many people over here. This is like we're all of our Lions players are too I'm telling you we were dominating it was disgusting Just put I envy in the auto invite command What'd you say Just pull up the add on sec in the options and then where it says it add group trigger invite phase just by I am being there hit enter oh shit and uncheck confirmation at the top it invites everyone auto okay that's the settings group invite all right what do you the I need carrots carrots now better do a quick Joe get it carrots Okay, it's filled Everyone in we're on the right layer Gamers rise up everyone's muted I'm holding my breath. There's so many horde I'm shadow melded just trying to get over to freaking Barons I mean I'm almost aren't fucking heading over there. Uh, you wanted to get multiple raid groups are not go So how do we do that now? They're all in this group Like as if you leave the group doesn't it unlayer you from here Well, you can just stay just hold your group and then make it to ratchet And that way we can make sure we're all in the same layer and then from there I could try to drop group and see if we can get a few more people onto this layer Um, but we need to get also we need to make sure that the horde gets on this layer too. So I Got a wow heiress the second one gotten crazy. I don't know are you an add-on user or what? Well, you know, I just got to start talking about Yeah, though. I'm my whisper. I have any issues with it. I Think it's omni. I gotta get rid of Omni bar. That's Bar on a beta. Yeah. I lost to payo in a duel and it fucking broke me. I first of all, that's pathetic your thorns build. I mean you can damage through it I'm not playing the thorns build right now. Oh I'm looking at your gear down the homie bar. Well I'm crashing out. There's like retail add-on DGEM. Yo Astrea thanks for the five tips man I appreciate it. Let's see here. All right, I'm running to ratchet cool. Can I get it can I get a kitty thorns, please? Okay, you have a thorns game. Yeah, but it's not a kitty thorns. It's different. Thank you There you go 25 nature damage, whatever that's what I'm saying it like stacks different right since you have all that spell damage or whatever Yeah, I even use a you know spell power consumables. It's whatever sub-a-gill. I want the kitty thorns Uh, oh, Savik's, I'm gonna add Savik's to the call. I think he wants to coordinate some stuff with us. Yeah, yeah, don't come in, come in. Wait, Savik's on horde, oh we're fighting Savik's. That's what's going on. God, what a bitch. That's what I'm saying. Like Savik's is coordinating all the horde and like, yeah, you kind of filled up all the layers too so the soda yeah so the yeah pomcat 5 gift it thank you very much man I'm back. Welcome back gamer. We're calling up Savik's here. Greetings, Alliance. Savik's. Oh my god. Hey dude. Hello. What have you been up to, man? This last hour or so. That was a lot of fun. I gotta say, Shobik is brave fighting the frontline and I'll show him catch this guy but he kept running softwares yeah I don't know oh my gosh Soda look behind us Run! oh my fuck okay I heard you guys want to go fight at Ratchet but Makano and I want to hear that we won the national bell war and we'll go there then You want to hear what? Sorry I lagged out. You guys absolutely won. You're going to give them that show back? Oh my god. Absolutely. You didn't even come and save me. What are you going to sit there and deny reality? I literally came and saved you, bro. We got the reds and everything. You didn't even get in the pit. You didn't even get in the pit. We won and we'll go to the castle because I'm about to lose all my soldiers right now. Okay. Here's what happened. Um We we had a couple unlucky engagements Okay, against the horde and because of that the horde Temporarily won some minor skirmishes in the ashen veil Temporarily, but the war is not over between the alliance and the horde. I think the I think at Ashen veils ours right now. Ashen veils definitely ours some small skirmishes have been won by the horde Um we just went to astronaut and took all your guys and stuff. They have nothing to eat. You abandoned them Small skirmish very very small skirmish small scale. Maybe not even noteworthy Maybe not even noteworthy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like a small thing Okay, so we get the dub on that Sure. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yes. Yes the hard one. Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in here I wasn't I wasn't there Yeah, part of it everyone was telling me that you're going to save them So did they got soda dude? Y'all took y'all took all of the layer you overpopulated it and said see it's taken and then you said get out skilled Yeah, that is that is actually reality so so basically Rinding for gear or something you could have been there. I'm sure it's all you Savage from our pop the layer was 100% full so anyone we invited couldn't get to the layer So we're like okay crap Well, there's like there was all the alliance on different layers and we're like Oh, we'll just send with what we have because it was either that in yeah Yeah, you guys. I got there. No, no, no, I got off so many times and my group was trying to invite me back. I didn't even leave the group. Okay. And I was getting layered and I had to try like 10 different invites and I finally got back. But we were like bleeding out super hard too. That's still the most amount of people I've seen on one layer before. No, like we had no like that like whole fight Yeah, I was I was we also got to give credit to Blizzard. This is insane I don't know. I know the frames are lagging, but all my buttons were hidden. Yeah. Yeah Normally, it was like when we did this on sod. It was just yeah, like Blizzard would light up and then you were just DC It was 20 seconds. Yeah, it was it was bad. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it was just instant lag DC Don't be blizzard boys Okay, but like I wasn't there. So yeah, we got it Yeah, so Savins, I was telling Soda, if we all had Soda Thorns on all of us, we probably would have won, but Soda kind of grieved us, not even buffing, so... Yeah, just showed up late. Yeah. I mean, showed up late. First of all, let's do a gear inspection. Let's see what the fuck y'all been doing. This guy is year shaming everyone, and he's a demon show of the war. That's crazy. All my firsts are my second character. No one told me about the war, and when they did, I finally showed up. I told you about the war earlier today, and you were like, I'm dancing in Stormwind. oh my gosh oh my goodness that's different that's a druid thing you wouldn't get it that's more that's a prio you're actually dancing yeah i was dancing in movement all the druids were there people are telling me that soda was begging for gold all morning while we were fighting and out in war that is insane i could believe that yeah well about it huh oh my god he admits it Okay, we're like 26 DPS weapon world with acts by asshole cracks, okay good you're fully geared for hitting level 20 You got the fucking absolutely whooped by about I wasn't there You were I bet you were watching yeah, you saw that first. I was Yeah, no, that's band and duals re-roll dude, what do you want me to say? I cannot wait for the entire wild population to be paladins That's gonna be so cool. That's gonna be awesome. That's gonna be so cool. It sounds really fun to me Nice. Now we gotta get through Leon. Guys, don't let them bully the reds. We finally get to shine. Let us enjoy it Don't let these miserable truners get us nerfed Unbelievable. Put your ass back in holy where you belong. That's what you should be doing Not anymore You got redstone balance, buddy. All right yeah it's what I did before I'm gonna do it again that's how I fucking belong instead of trying to get reds nerfed I think we should ask for a druid buff ok I agree yes ok stop hating on the reds then we're like brothers trying to it's not a bitch ass class even if it's balanced you're the bitch as that reds moonfire root moonfire bro ok someone's not allowed to fight oh my god run away run away I'm not talking about holy strike. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I got hamstring. I got this arm I got charged on combat. That's pretty sick. Well may just got nerfed So I don't want to hear it from anyone. All right, like oh Yeah, I deserve to arcane missiles over through pillars blizzard doesn't work. It's like all right Yeah, it's a lot of organized here, and let's figure out what we're doing So I think let's turn this little giant war we got going on into a little fucking mini game I think the best thing we can do is have one team defending a tower and the other assaults it if the other team Majority it will you'll be able to tell when the fight's over right then the game ends and maybe we have a timer How long we have to hold? Okay, I like that so we don't Keep fighting Yes Alliance are holding Northwatch hold south of ratchet. We're changed layers so we could get more people onto a new layer So we need to get Savik's onto this layer now. Yeah, how about you come to my layer so doco We have to come back to where we just were we just were the ratio with that one is is already full So so you're telling me you guys are stacking up infinite amount of players. So I'm not even there yet I'm gonna try to invite my guys But you gotta listen how many how many of you guys are there like how many streamers on a lion It's mad we haven't invited really anyone yet like we haven't got there We haven't done anything we find a new new layer and at the same time We both form our groups at the same time. I could work. That could work. Yeah, we gotta find a stealth layer The only problem is sat out layered any he didn't even do anything. Yeah, I didn't think I was getting laid at all There is a hard cap like once once we hit the cap and cheese cheese I don't know what it is say. It's like 10,000 or like a 5,000. I don't know Too many people bored right now in the beta. That's what I'm yeah, that's what I'm saying once we hit the cap It's gonna you know, you can't get any more Well, I mean I know how we could do it I just don't know how about making it happen We need to find a horde and alliance player on the same layer That's not the main layer and we need to coordinate grouping up with them at the same exact time And then inviting at the same time and from there That's the layer and we just built and that's it but I don't know how to find those two people Does it matter how many people are in the zone itself? Probably yeah. Oh, no, it's layer based. I bet well then we should fight You know what Yeah layering is individuals to zones So next thing let's decide what location is somewhat easy to get to that has a defensible area with no guards That no one's gonna be in It would be none of the starting areas Doesn't that racetrack in the middle have like nothing there Yeah This is a massive flash there I kind of like the idea of like a tower though because I mean it's so so big to hold that entire