WEBVTT 06:30.000 --> 06:37.000 . 06:37.000 --> 06:44.000 . 06:44.000 --> 06:51.000 . 06:51.000 --> 06:58.000 . 14:28.000 --> 14:57.920 Good morning, Shads. 14:57.920 --> 15:02.720 and happy Wednesday, September 23rd. 15:04.220 --> 15:05.720 Good morning, good morning. 15:05.720 --> 15:11.320 Guys, we are back a little bit early today for some more beta gaming. 15:16.220 --> 15:18.920 Hammerfallen, nice meeting you at BlizzCon, man. 15:18.920 --> 15:20.320 Thanks for the prime. 15:20.320 --> 15:22.220 Steph, Steph shoots. 15:22.220 --> 15:23.720 Thanks for the T1 and fun time. 15:23.720 --> 15:25.320 Thanks for the T1. 15:25.320 --> 15:27.020 Good morning. 15:27.020 --> 15:34.940 Good morning. Good morning. First beta patch tomorrow. You guys think paladin is going to get gutted bro 15:35.500 --> 15:46.700 This is crazy, right? We've never had a patch on era before really like a balance patch since like 2006 or 15:47.260 --> 15:49.260 five or whatever 15:49.340 --> 15:50.380 I 15:50.380 --> 15:52.380 Can't wait 15:52.380 --> 15:57.200 Oh my gosh, I literally can't wait. It's a crazy thing to think about. 15:57.200 --> 16:00.600 Radioactive, thanks for priming. How was my birthday? It was good. It was good. 16:00.600 --> 16:05.720 We played Classic Plus all day and ate some steaks for dinner, so can't complain, man. 16:05.720 --> 16:13.780 Mage buff, ink. You know, I don't know about buff, but like maybe some spice to the rotation. 16:13.780 --> 16:15.780 You know what I mean? Yeah. 16:15.780 --> 16:23.060 something like that. Yeah, if you use the Star Forge link, it'll basically let them 16:23.060 --> 16:30.860 know that I sent you. So, yeah. Shirley Cohn there for averted. We'll see about that. We'll 16:30.860 --> 16:35.060 see about that. When you play a new world with Zika, dude, it's been a minute, man. Maybe 16:35.060 --> 16:43.580 we'll get back to it. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? What do you think about if Rogue's 16:43.580 --> 16:54.540 got shiv uh from what i'm hearing road poisons get activated like instantly anyway so i don't 16:54.540 --> 17:04.460 know if it's needed resident xp isn't add on out for forever shish tix old ui new splash sound 17:04.460 --> 17:08.300 uh so i'm just saying man i don't know if they're gonna go with the tix i haven't heard anything 17:08.300 --> 17:15.100 on that front. I will say the steady mana is growing on me. I still prefer ticks, but the steady mana 17:15.100 --> 17:20.140 is growing on me. So, you know, it is what it is. What do you think of tricks on rogues? 17:21.340 --> 17:24.940 You know, I haven't played rogues. I don't have like too many opinions. From what I've seen, 17:24.940 --> 17:31.660 rogues seem already pretty cool. I don't know. I think mutilate rogues are a little one-dimensional. 17:31.660 --> 17:37.420 So like maybe adding a little something there could be cool, but like sub already seems cool. 17:37.420 --> 17:41.680 combat I think already seems cool me to late might need a little of but like I 17:41.680 --> 17:45.940 said I haven't played a rogue so like I would need to actually test it out more 17:45.940 --> 17:49.900 you should check out the wow forever has an identity problem by theory wise 17:49.900 --> 17:53.100 covers art direction okay yeah so a lot of people have been asking me to watch 17:53.100 --> 17:59.700 this one we need to check that out we need to check that out so we well we'll 17:59.700 --> 18:03.120 do a little bit of reacts before getting into it but like I really want to get 18:03.120 --> 18:06.900 into it you know what I mean it's like dude these are these are tricky days 18:06.900 --> 18:12.100 We have like eight hours on stream and like there's like ten hours of videos 18:12.100 --> 18:17.020 I want to watch so obviously I just can't watch them all but like I want to there's like 15 hours of testing 18:17.020 --> 18:19.640 I want to do so I can't do that either. It's like trying to like 18:20.140 --> 18:22.140 You know mid max it 18:22.140 --> 18:25.100 No confirmed arenas yet. Yeah, they confirm there will be no arena 18:26.940 --> 18:30.700 Get straight into the game, but no, I want to we'll do a little reacts. We'll do a little reacts first 18:31.980 --> 18:33.980 Definitely a little bit 18:33.980 --> 18:39.980 Have I seen the preach vid? No. No. There's the GBA vid, the preach vid, theory wise vid. 18:39.980 --> 18:41.980 A lot of vids I want to watch. 18:41.980 --> 18:46.980 I kind of want to check out the theory wise one. There's also a Crandor one. 18:46.980 --> 18:48.980 There's also the GBA. We'll see. 18:48.980 --> 18:53.980 Yeah, we'll be doing more giveaways throughout the day. Yep, yep. 18:53.980 --> 18:57.980 Will they do any rated content? Sounds like no. They want to keep it casual. 18:57.980 --> 19:01.980 What are we going to do in the game today? Collecting books and exploring? 19:01.980 --> 19:07.780 Then collecting books, yes, because I want to get the neck and the ring, exploring, yes, 19:07.780 --> 19:10.020 because I haven't seen Riverglades. 19:10.020 --> 19:15.420 So collecting books, exploring, and then I want to get a new cloak, because my cloak 19:15.420 --> 19:17.920 sucks, so I need to figure out a good cloak. 19:17.920 --> 19:22.140 Get a cloak, new ring, new neck from books, and explore. 19:22.140 --> 19:23.140 And then PvP. 19:23.140 --> 19:24.940 I'm actually going to write all of that down. 19:24.940 --> 19:29.980 That's what I want to do in-game today. 19:29.980 --> 19:39.420 Cloak, Book, Neck Ring, and Explore and PvP. That's what we're doing today. 19:39.420 --> 19:45.420 Tailoring has a four spell power cloak. Is it blue or green? Because I'm a 19:45.420 --> 19:50.060 tailor, I haven't seen that. Have I? What books are you talking about? It's like the 19:50.060 --> 19:52.620 Sod books. 19:54.620 --> 19:58.620 This is a two spell damage cloak. This is a one spell damage cloak. Yeah, I don't 19:58.620 --> 20:00.100 I don't know if I've seen that one. 20:02.940 --> 20:04.020 Have I tried the new race yet? 20:04.020 --> 20:09.020 No, no, I'm going to, but I probably won't have time today 20:11.060 --> 20:12.680 or tomorrow, maybe Friday. 20:13.720 --> 20:15.520 Karine, my bet it was the two spell power one. 20:15.520 --> 20:16.860 Yeah, that's what I thought. 20:18.200 --> 20:20.100 Chicken, thanks for the prime. 20:28.620 --> 20:30.620 Um 20:31.740 --> 20:35.780 Get the hundred spell power ring from fishing yeah, thing looks insane my need to 20:36.100 --> 20:40.220 We watch the G baby if we have time there's a couple of it. I want to see see 20:41.700 --> 20:46.160 Much love forever. Hi forever. Hi Eli. Thanks. What's you one man? 20:46.780 --> 20:52.080 Hey, what up Nambi? Good morning. Good morning. Do you feel the dungeon quest rewards mainly the XP are overtuned? 20:52.080 --> 20:53.100 I like them. I like them 20:53.100 --> 21:00.580 They could maybe be dialed back by 5% 10% but I like it as is it incentivizes you to do the dungeon once I 21:01.260 --> 21:03.260 love that 21:09.900 --> 21:14.780 Good morning, bro, but I'm nester. Good morning. Is there invite codes will do giveaways. Yeah, how does mage feel? 21:14.780 --> 21:17.540 There's things I like and don't like oh for all I'm having fun 21:17.540 --> 21:28.340 Um, can you call your contact John Blizzard and have them restore rage on crit for warrior? 21:28.340 --> 21:33.660 But no rage on criss is kind of brutal and like cribs are really low too and the world 21:33.660 --> 21:37.140 buff so yeah warrior might need a little, little something something just to make it 21:37.140 --> 21:39.400 feel as it did on era. 21:39.400 --> 21:43.700 Not any like better necessarily just like to restore how it already felt right. 21:43.700 --> 21:46.700 Xenas, thanks for the prime. Marhob, thanks for the prime. 21:49.700 --> 21:52.700 Yo yo, original good morning. Did they change too much? 21:52.700 --> 21:59.700 No, you know, I think they did a pretty good job of like, most classes don't have that many changes, so I think it's pretty cool. 21:59.700 --> 22:09.180 Um, what do they do to warrior rage? 22:09.180 --> 22:13.340 I guess you don't get rage from crits anymore and you don't get as much rage from being 22:13.340 --> 22:21.140 hit so your overall rage gen is pretty low, that's what I'm hearing at least. 22:21.140 --> 22:23.660 Has anyone confirmed if Shaman Tank is real? 22:23.660 --> 22:24.660 It's... 22:24.660 --> 22:26.660 Well, okay, what do you mean by real, right? 22:26.660 --> 22:27.860 We have to define what real is. 22:27.860 --> 22:32.060 You can do it as a fun little challenge, but you're not going to be shaman tanking in 22:32.060 --> 22:33.820 like necks. 22:33.820 --> 22:34.820 So it's not real. 22:34.820 --> 22:38.500 It's not an actual thing, but you could do it as a fun challenge. 22:38.500 --> 22:41.380 Hey, Zahra, first time follower. 22:41.380 --> 22:43.020 Thanks for following, Logan. 22:43.020 --> 22:44.020 Great job on coverage. 22:44.020 --> 22:46.260 What classes need the most damage boost? 22:46.260 --> 22:50.980 We're too early to see any, if any classes are good or bad, it's too early to tell in 22:50.980 --> 22:52.860 terms of damage. 22:52.860 --> 22:55.040 This is a level 20 beta. 22:55.040 --> 22:56.880 We're not looking at damage. 22:56.880 --> 23:03.920 looking at class design. I want to be very clear here. In terms of strong and weak, 23:03.920 --> 23:09.920 the silly discussions, we're talking about class design. Does the class play well? 23:09.920 --> 23:12.240 Because everything is going to be tuned later. 23:17.360 --> 23:20.960 I feel like you've been pretty clear. I just have to keep re-saying that because people, 23:20.960 --> 23:26.160 I, you know, it really might be a language thing. Like if you're not a native English speaker, 23:26.160 --> 23:30.000 If English is not your first language, this might be a confusing concept. 23:30.000 --> 23:31.120 I don't know. 23:31.120 --> 23:33.760 Like, I just keep repeating it. 23:33.760 --> 23:35.280 It just keeps going over people's heads. 23:36.320 --> 23:37.760 So I don't know. 23:37.760 --> 23:40.720 I just keep saying the same thing, but I need to keep saying it. 23:48.320 --> 23:49.360 Maravak, thanks to Pram. 23:50.960 --> 23:51.680 Hi, Sregoon. 23:51.680 --> 23:52.480 It's good, man. 23:52.480 --> 23:52.800 It's good. 23:52.800 --> 23:54.240 Actually got a little workout in this morning. 23:54.240 --> 24:02.000 then uh waking up real early going to bed real early actually last night i did uh i had uh like 24:02.000 --> 24:07.040 a thing i was doing so i was up late last night too and up early it was good like kind of just 24:07.040 --> 24:22.640 going going in man um um um so it does not sound so happy about the band bands is what's the bands 24:22.640 --> 24:26.240 is wait we don't have patch notes do we 24:31.440 --> 24:36.360 now we don't it's our Scott that McDonald's hairline this morning oh 24:36.360 --> 24:41.720 every morning's my whole life what info about any mob servers I don't know 24:41.720 --> 24:46.120 about any mob servers what are they like are they just waiting to see like what 24:46.120 --> 24:49.200 are they gonna do man 24:52.640 --> 25:00.560 Did we really complain about Mages not being OP since, and they've been OP since Vanilla? 25:00.560 --> 25:01.560 Nope. 25:01.560 --> 25:06.640 No one's saying that, except you, Willy. 25:06.640 --> 25:13.640 Sorry, do you think they'll have some undiscovered new content at launch, or it'll be the same 25:13.640 --> 25:14.640 as Beta? 25:14.640 --> 25:20.480 A lot of the 1 to 20 might be the same, but if we're only playing the 20, then 30, like, 25:20.480 --> 25:25.280 Such a small portion of the game. There's gonna be so much we haven't seen not journal. Thanks. Let's you one. I have to sneeze 25:35.840 --> 25:41.220 Oh, excuse me level cap is being raised next Thursday 25:41.220 --> 25:53.140 day. Taylor, good morning. How did I mute that so quickly? I, uh, I, I reached over and 25:53.140 --> 26:01.700 hit my mute key by Midsnees. So lock in and dialed. Um, greetings to Poland. What's going 26:01.700 --> 26:09.940 on? Payo just scammed his viewers. Okay. It happens. What's my honest opinion on layering? 26:09.940 --> 26:14.660 unnecessary evil if we want a mega realm 20 time rank one sneezer that's right 26:16.100 --> 26:21.380 mage cooked mage is in an okay spot it just you know obviously it's not like in a finished state 26:21.380 --> 26:28.500 is basically are you still hurt calisthenics wise uh i'm on the road to recovery in the sense that 26:29.220 --> 26:34.180 like i basically have a like bulge discs in my neck those never heal so basically i have to just 26:34.180 --> 26:40.240 like go real slow and easy and do the things I can do to make it not hurt. So I'm on the 26:40.240 --> 26:47.020 road to recovery in that sense where all of your rank one gladiators as a mage. I'm a 26:47.020 --> 26:56.060 gladiator shaman priest, disc priest, holy priest, shadow priest, rogue and mage on all 26:56.060 --> 27:07.620 respects and that might be it. I think that might be it. Got a high rucks coming out of 27:07.620 --> 27:18.260 the, oh crush it man, there we go. Why do you think mana and lifetix are better? So it kind 27:18.260 --> 27:27.780 of dictates the flow of how PVP goes. So with ticks, it as a rogue or a druid, it makes 27:27.780 --> 27:34.580 you open up in a maybe more slow and methodical way instead of just opening and going and 27:34.580 --> 27:40.820 speeding things up. As a mage, it dictates how you move as a priest, as a lock dictates 27:40.820 --> 27:44.020 how you move because you're waiting for the next tick and you're like going with the 27:44.020 --> 27:48.180 the server tick, so it's more of a flow thing in PVP. 27:48.180 --> 27:51.380 People that PVP a lot know exactly what I'm talking about. 27:51.380 --> 27:55.060 And if you kind of don't PVP and you're more of a strict 27:55.060 --> 27:59.380 PVE-er, then you're probably like, that's stupid, who cares? 27:59.380 --> 28:02.260 Yeah, it's a, like if you ask someone like Snutz, or 28:02.260 --> 28:05.340 someone like Cidoo, or someone like Fenderuki, Ziko, 28:05.340 --> 28:09.780 myself, like any of the classic PVP scene, they're all 28:09.780 --> 28:11.180 going to be like, yeah, ticks are amazing. 28:11.180 --> 28:12.900 They're so super fun to play around. 28:12.900 --> 28:20.300 But if you ask someone who hasn't PvP'd much or strictly PvE's, they'll probably like the smoother ones better. 28:20.900 --> 28:22.100 So, that's basically it. 28:22.100 --> 28:23.300 Logan, thanks for the prime. 28:23.300 --> 28:24.500 This is how I read both YouTube and Twitch. 28:24.500 --> 28:26.200 Yes, did I see the Coldflame saver? 28:26.200 --> 28:27.300 Yeah, it's funny, man. 28:28.300 --> 28:29.300 Melee Mage on the menu. 28:29.300 --> 28:31.000 It's just like a funny thing, I think. 28:34.100 --> 28:36.000 Anyone have a good range of value out on these? 28:36.000 --> 28:37.100 I do not use any. 28:42.900 --> 28:44.900 You look the same every day, you'll take that. 28:48.180 --> 28:52.340 Does mana regen still stop after casting? Yes, that's five second rule, that is still in the game. 28:56.340 --> 28:59.940 Melee mage hardcore challenge, that could actually be really fun, like really fun. 29:02.980 --> 29:07.220 Arcane fixed, 25% cast, channel time reduction per stack of Arcane Blast. 29:07.220 --> 29:10.220 very flexible instead of Fireblast. 29:26.220 --> 29:32.220 Yes and no. I think having itemization give rotational flavor is awesome. 29:32.220 --> 29:34.220 They did that in Season of Discovery. 29:34.220 --> 29:38.380 They've done that in like every modern wow expansion. I don't see why they wouldn't do it here 29:39.260 --> 29:41.260 but if mages have 29:41.980 --> 29:43.980 Rotational flavor with itemization 29:44.060 --> 29:48.140 You can assume that all classes will have rotational flavor with itemization 29:48.740 --> 29:55.140 So if every other class has three to five abilities baseline and itemization might give them six or seven, haha 29:55.780 --> 30:01.140 Then mages are still on the lower end. So I have the same exact concern whether or not that's true 30:01.140 --> 30:06.140 the goal would be to bring up mage rotational complexity to the level of 30:06.140 --> 30:12.420 every other class whether or not there is rotational flavor of itemization do 30:12.420 --> 30:15.980 you think they'll add housing that forever I hope not I like people just 30:15.980 --> 30:22.860 sitting in the cities and a campfires and I don't think it needs it host a road 30:22.860 --> 30:29.100 council with peekaboo was in mere that could be cool honestly I need to play 30:29.100 --> 30:34.620 some rogue though. I love housing and retail but it's definitely not in the 30:34.620 --> 30:39.020 spirit of forever exactly I agree with that. Camping is like the new world buffs 30:39.020 --> 30:45.500 no camping buffs are mutually exclusive with class buffs and they're not 30:45.500 --> 30:48.780 nearly as strong so for like both of those reasons it's not even close but 30:48.780 --> 30:51.420 they're I think they're really cool I actually like camp camping a lot more 30:51.420 --> 30:56.020 than I thought I would. Rage normalization has warriors cooked I get 30:56.020 --> 31:00.500 their damage needs to be reigned in, but it also changes the way it plays. Yeah, I think 31:00.500 --> 31:08.700 that's a fair complaint. Have any thoughts on how Hardcore Forever will look like? Awesome. 31:08.700 --> 31:12.700 How old am I? I'm 33. I turned 33, yes, two days ago. 31:25.380 --> 31:29.380 Um, I'm, I'm, I'm still on this mage stuff, 31:29.380 --> 31:31.540 giving them more buttons to reduce their damage. 31:31.540 --> 31:34.140 It seems like a waste of time and effort. 31:34.140 --> 31:35.940 I don't know what you mean by that. 31:35.940 --> 31:39.820 Kiwi, thanks for the tier one. 31:39.820 --> 31:41.100 No more 100 degree weather. 31:41.100 --> 31:43.020 I know man, we made it out. 31:43.020 --> 31:44.500 We made it out. 31:44.500 --> 31:45.500 It's amazing. 31:45.500 --> 31:49.380 Kiwi, thank you very much for the sub brother. 31:49.380 --> 31:50.900 How do we do this monthly subscribe thing? 31:50.900 --> 31:54.380 You just hit the subscribe button. 31:54.380 --> 31:58.060 You can either Twitch Prime or tier one and you're done. 31:58.060 --> 32:00.740 That's pretty much it. 32:00.740 --> 32:01.260 There we go. 32:05.940 --> 32:07.940 Who will do it? Thanks to the Prime. 32:11.940 --> 32:15.940 Hot Streak should be percentage based, not crit based. 32:17.940 --> 32:20.940 Interesting. I would like you to expand on that. 32:20.940 --> 32:23.940 BB, five gifted subs, thank you very much. You're the top gift for the day too. 32:23.940 --> 32:25.940 Welcome in guys. Enjoy not watching ads too. 32:27.940 --> 32:30.940 Who does the class talent trees? Whose fault is it? 32:30.940 --> 32:34.940 I mean overall the class talent trees are pretty good, but they're not in a finished state. 32:34.940 --> 32:37.780 or like, being worked on still. 32:37.780 --> 32:39.700 You'll lock, thanks for the Twitch brim. 32:44.300 --> 32:47.100 Blue post, wand, and there's a new blue post. 32:47.100 --> 32:50.340 Alrighty, alrighty, alrighty, alrighty. 32:50.340 --> 32:53.100 Auto shoot bug and fix incoming. 32:53.100 --> 32:54.660 We've been tracking the issue in WoW Forever Beta 32:54.660 --> 32:56.380 where the 0.5 second cast time 32:56.380 --> 32:57.820 that precedes a hunter's auto shot 32:57.820 --> 32:59.940 or the use of wand is not functioning properly. 32:59.940 --> 33:01.660 Due to a bug, these auto shots are currently 33:01.660 --> 33:02.980 incurring a much shorter cast time, 33:02.980 --> 33:04.740 which in practice means hunters and WAN users 33:04.740 --> 33:07.560 don't need to stop to shoot for as long as intended. 33:07.560 --> 33:09.080 This is something we'll fix. 33:09.080 --> 33:10.240 I like this. 33:11.100 --> 33:12.240 I like this. 33:13.120 --> 33:15.180 We were talking about this yesterday in the mage council 33:15.180 --> 33:17.000 that like hunters feel insane 33:17.000 --> 33:20.200 because you can literally just like keep moving instantly. 33:20.200 --> 33:21.320 Oh yeah, yeah. 33:21.320 --> 33:23.440 People, all the hunters are like boo. 33:23.440 --> 33:24.280 No, this is good. 33:24.280 --> 33:25.120 This is good. 33:25.120 --> 33:29.520 Like having intentionality behind your movement 33:29.520 --> 33:32.580 and needing to like stop and shoot as a hunter 33:32.580 --> 33:41.460 stop and wand is a part of the game so it was just a bug yeah I actually don't 33:41.460 --> 33:45.980 mind this I think that's it's a good good thing to clarify that like hey look 33:45.980 --> 33:49.860 this is a bug by the way arcane missiles not shooting through a pillar I 33:49.860 --> 33:53.460 believe is also a bug like they're gonna fix that too like I think fixing these 33:53.460 --> 34:00.540 bugs is important so prime checks thanks for the problem and it's not gonna nerf 34:00.540 --> 34:02.660 or if anything, it's a good fix, exactly. 34:11.660 --> 34:14.460 The point of the beta is to catch things like this, yeah. 34:19.500 --> 34:21.780 Oh, it looks so good, Peewee. 34:21.780 --> 34:24.020 I knew my wand was being jumpy, yeah, yep. 34:27.180 --> 34:29.180 Arcade missile should have never went through pillars. 34:29.180 --> 34:34.280 Every channeled spell in the game goes through pillars drain life drain soul 34:35.000 --> 34:40.080 Arcane missiles that's just how it works you channel a spell and if someone runs it continues to channel 34:40.080 --> 34:46.280 That's the whole utility of a channeled spell in PvP. That's like good news gracious people have some crazy cope here 34:46.280 --> 34:49.020 It's not just mages warlocks every like 34:50.120 --> 34:55.200 There's literally the only reason you'd ever use a channeled spell is to do that. There's no other reason for it 34:55.400 --> 34:57.560 So yeah, it's a bug fix and we're gonna fix it 34:59.180 --> 35:03.780 Mind play, yeah, priests, like, yeah, people are just on some weird cope on that one. 35:05.060 --> 35:08.140 In every game, you break beam effects by lossing. 35:08.140 --> 35:11.340 Wait, in which game? Every game I play, they go through. 35:13.740 --> 35:17.820 So does doing a tier list on races and specs? Oh gosh, not the tier list. 35:19.340 --> 35:20.780 Not the tier list. 35:20.780 --> 35:22.780 I 35:27.380 --> 35:30.900 Will take losses loss guys. This is some weird 35:31.820 --> 35:38.180 War your cope. I'm just gonna say it as it is that is some really weird cope you guys are on 35:38.540 --> 35:45.460 All right, whether you're playing like any caster. That's the whole like reason you use a channeled spell crazy cope 35:45.620 --> 35:47.620 I'm calling that one out. I 35:48.500 --> 35:50.240 actually 35:50.240 --> 35:53.840 Look it is it's not just a few of you guys. There's just a lot of you guys here 35:53.840 --> 35:56.120 I'm gonna go to my YouTube channel and go to shorts 35:56.840 --> 35:58.840 We talked about 35:59.040 --> 36:01.120 the arcane missile bug here 36:03.480 --> 36:06.200 And we go to the commons and 36:07.760 --> 36:11.080 Their top comment is mages when they can't bs you anymore 36:11.600 --> 36:18.080 This guy's on some crazy cope this guy says finally they take them 21 years nine months and 28 days to fix that 36:18.080 --> 36:22.340 Nothing to fix that's class design this guy's on some crazy cope this guy 36:22.340 --> 36:26.940 I know that there was one dev who's been pissed about this one for the last 15 years. Nope 36:26.940 --> 36:28.940 It's just a bug this guy's on some crazy cope 36:29.620 --> 36:34.300 Them cleaning up some of the small things really impressed me. Nope. This was just a bug some crazy cope 36:34.580 --> 36:39.060 Thanks for the fix blizzard. No, they're actually fixing this because this is what's broken because it's a bug 36:39.060 --> 36:45.220 This is some crazy cope that I can't believe the amount of cope on this one. Yeah, and it's like yeah 36:45.220 --> 36:47.220 It's like everyone. It's like everyone except 36:48.080 --> 36:58.300 except me maybe I'm on the cope all right anyway maybe it's my maybe it's me 36:58.300 --> 37:07.540 man I yeah no no I'm sticking to it I'm still calling it out I'm still calling 37:07.540 --> 37:16.100 it out it's like it's like here here's the analogy this is how I feel right now 37:16.100 --> 37:22.820 I look up and I see a blue sky and everyone in these YouTube comments is 37:23.420 --> 37:25.420 saying 37:25.580 --> 37:30.460 The sky is green the sky is green the sky is green the sky is green and I'm looking up and I'm like 37:33.100 --> 37:35.100 No, it's not I 37:35.220 --> 37:39.320 Don't care how many people are telling me that's green. I see blue 37:40.420 --> 37:44.700 So I don't care how many people are saying this. I'm sticking to it 37:46.100 --> 37:51.280 I see blue. Maybe I'm colorblind. Sure, but I'm still gonna tell you what I see. 37:52.020 --> 37:55.180 All right, you're not gonna twist my wrist. 37:57.020 --> 38:01.960 He's holding firm on the take. I mean, it's just like, you know, it like it's the position, man. It makes sense. 38:07.540 --> 38:09.740 In the middle video, there is a green sky. 38:13.540 --> 38:15.540 Okay, you're right. That is green. 38:16.100 --> 38:18.100 Never mind. 38:22.100 --> 38:24.100 Yo, make doger man, thanks for the Prime, bro. 38:24.100 --> 38:26.100 Oh my gosh. 38:30.100 --> 38:33.100 Okay, I really want to see this theory-wise video. 38:33.100 --> 38:35.100 I really want to see this Crandor. 38:35.100 --> 38:37.100 I really want to see this Chee-Bit. 38:37.100 --> 38:39.100 We do not have enough time for all of them. 38:39.100 --> 38:41.100 Goodness gracious. 38:46.100 --> 38:51.700 If it ends up being a bug, uh, you can do something really funny in that comment section. 38:51.700 --> 38:58.180 They are, yes, it is confirmed that it is a bug. That's why it's already a bug. Like, so it's, it, 38:59.140 --> 39:04.820 I'm sure the missiles will be fixed, so it's like, that's why it's like, it's hilarious to read. 39:04.820 --> 39:08.820 It's like, guys, it's just a bug. It's kind of like the same thing with this auto-shot thing, 39:08.820 --> 39:13.140 and everyone, now that the bug is fixed, people are like sad. It's like, guys, this was just a bug. 39:13.140 --> 39:15.140 Like, goodness gracious. 39:29.020 --> 39:31.980 Channeling is a concentration essentially. 39:31.980 --> 39:34.220 It should finish casting unless an interruption is made. 39:34.220 --> 39:36.220 Yeah, yeah. 39:39.980 --> 39:41.260 It was a fun bug. 39:41.260 --> 39:43.100 Blizzard hates fun. 39:43.140 --> 39:47.660 Theory wise must watch you. I think I want to see the theory wise one a lot 39:48.540 --> 39:53.460 This is affect wanting. Yes, wanting got nerfed which I think is good. Which I think is good. I 39:57.180 --> 39:59.180 Like the one bug 40:06.060 --> 40:09.820 Good morning, mr. Zahra what a manalo good morning good morning. What up to Italy? 40:13.140 --> 40:20.140 Is there ever been a bug that made the game better? 40:20.140 --> 40:22.140 Maybe? 40:22.140 --> 40:28.140 Probably. 40:28.140 --> 40:32.140 The auto shop bug is ridiculous, especially when paired with planes running. 40:32.140 --> 40:37.140 Yeah, true. 40:37.140 --> 40:40.940 I'm gonna link this to venerate and Ziko since we were talking about this yesterday 40:40.940 --> 40:41.780 Okay. 41:00.560 --> 41:02.820 Do we know if they're gonna fix the discrepancy 41:02.820 --> 41:04.940 and base spell damage between classes? 41:04.940 --> 41:08.520 This is not something that we know needs fixing. 41:08.520 --> 41:16.120 Right. There might be things that we don't know that automatically fix this. So it's 41:16.120 --> 41:23.520 it's like a non issue. It's not something to think about or complain about yet. What 41:23.520 --> 41:30.780 when is the time to complain when you're level 60 and you're doing literal zero damage compared 41:30.780 --> 41:35.040 to everything else and it's like okay we need a balance patch to bring things up. But looking 41:35.040 --> 41:39.280 at some like charts of like how spell power affects things might just be how that class 41:39.280 --> 41:44.560 needs it to be balanced. So it's not anything to complain about. There's literally nothing 41:44.560 --> 42:00.160 to complain about right now. So we'll see. 42:00.160 --> 42:07.920 I feel like I feel like the the the biggest thing to think about man I've said this so many times 42:08.480 --> 42:17.840 the biggest thing to think about isn't tuning isn't is my class strong or weak isn't like any of this 42:17.840 --> 42:28.640 stuff it's is my class rotation fun or should the class rotation change is this fun or boring 42:28.640 --> 42:34.300 Those are the big like that's like the biggest question people should be asking because everything else is already changing 42:34.340 --> 42:40.180 With tuning with with when they get data how much damage each thing is doing all that's gonna change like that 42:40.180 --> 42:42.180 It's just don't even be concerned about it, right? 42:43.240 --> 42:50.840 So is your class designed well is the question that should be we should attempt to answer 42:51.840 --> 42:56.500 We're not all trained to think like that. Well, please guys use your intelligence. Okay 42:56.500 --> 42:59.580 Okay, deep breaths, deep breaths. 43:03.380 --> 43:05.220 How would I know, Max's level 20, 43:05.220 --> 43:07.300 by reading your talents and spell book? 43:09.700 --> 43:11.940 But what about the bis? 43:11.940 --> 43:13.300 Doesn't mind-flay break on loss? 43:13.300 --> 43:15.700 No, no channeled spell has ever broken on loss 43:15.700 --> 43:18.420 in 22 years of WoW. 43:19.500 --> 43:21.940 It's basically like the utility behind them 43:21.940 --> 43:24.100 to ever use them in PvP, pretty much, 43:24.100 --> 43:25.740 along at least a lot of the time. 43:26.500 --> 43:28.060 That's why they're there. 43:28.060 --> 43:29.700 Quelsen, thanks for the prom. 43:29.700 --> 43:32.300 Big Dogeman, thanks for the prom. 43:32.300 --> 43:34.580 It's just been plugged for 22 years, 43:34.580 --> 43:36.100 and you're telling me I'm on the cope. 43:36.100 --> 43:38.660 OK, all right, 22-year bug, OK. 43:51.580 --> 43:53.060 Since the journey is so important, 43:53.060 --> 43:57.140 Shouldn't we aim for a good feeling during leveling as well? 43:57.140 --> 43:58.420 Yes, yes. 43:58.420 --> 44:02.780 So thinking about how your rotation feels while leveling 44:02.780 --> 44:04.740 is a fair question to ask. 44:04.740 --> 44:07.500 Is my class rotation while leveling fun? 44:07.500 --> 44:10.340 Is my class rotation in PvP fun? 44:10.340 --> 44:13.220 Is my class rotation in solo play fun? 44:13.220 --> 44:15.860 Is my class rotation in Dungeoning fun? 44:15.860 --> 44:18.460 Is my class rotation at max level fun? 44:18.460 --> 44:20.360 Those are kind of like the four questions 44:20.360 --> 44:28.640 I've been trying to answer for Mage, Dungeon, Solo Play, PvP, Endgame, PvE. 44:28.640 --> 44:33.060 If it hits all four, the class is probably in a pretty fun state. 44:33.060 --> 44:38.440 If one of those is just completely missing or one button, might need some work. 44:38.440 --> 44:44.200 Those are like the really big questions right now, I think. 44:44.200 --> 44:48.720 They can't all be S tier though, okay, goodness gracious, we're not talking about tier, we're 44:48.720 --> 44:54.160 talking about good we're not talking about power we're talking about fun we're talking about design 44:57.520 --> 45:04.240 guys i'm just i'm just you like it's just guys guys calm on how many times can i say this guys 45:04.240 --> 45:10.080 i it might just be an if you're not a native english speaker i don't know but i cannot believe how 45:10.080 --> 45:13.360 How many times I have to say this? 45:21.160 --> 45:22.160 Good, that's gracious. 45:24.060 --> 45:26.900 That comment embodies the chat, I guess so, I guess so. 45:29.800 --> 45:30.640 Ugh. 45:35.980 --> 45:37.680 Yo, Justin, thanks for the prom. 45:40.080 --> 45:54.640 Oobad, thanks for the prom. 45:54.640 --> 46:01.360 Arcane Rupture, something like that could be cool. 46:01.360 --> 46:02.360 Yeah. 46:02.360 --> 46:06.320 Koongan needs you, what's he need me for? 46:06.320 --> 46:14.120 Ryan, thanks for the prom. 46:14.120 --> 46:15.120 Box dropping in five minutes. 46:15.120 --> 46:22.440 Oh, what kind of buffs? 46:22.440 --> 46:24.400 What's your take on a rogue two button rotation? 46:24.400 --> 46:27.400 I don't think rogues have two buttons. 46:27.400 --> 46:35.840 When I was looking at the talents, mutilate seemed to have the least, but stuff at the 46:35.840 --> 46:41.360 in a few years they'll release wow forever cl wow forever in the state it was in 46:41.360 --> 46:48.560 unreleased classic forever classic gosh maybe bro I don't know rogues having 46:48.560 --> 46:54.480 d2 buttons so if you're playing sub we can just we can just I've already done 46:54.480 --> 47:04.040 this I'll do it again if you're playing sub you will keep up chemo because it 47:04.040 --> 47:07.880 It causes your target to take 15% increase rupture damage. 47:07.880 --> 47:12.720 You'll keep up rupture because you're incentivized to do that with Hemo. 47:12.720 --> 47:14.800 So Hemo rupture is two. 47:14.800 --> 47:18.640 You'll fill with backstab because it does your most damage. 47:18.640 --> 47:21.240 And you'll ambush on procs, that's four. 47:21.240 --> 47:24.360 And you'll keep up slice when you already have rupture, that's five. 47:24.360 --> 47:27.880 So sub has a five ability rotation currently. 47:27.880 --> 47:31.360 So that's sub. 47:31.360 --> 47:35.880 is much closer to but we'll get there in a sec. You don't have enough comma points to 47:35.880 --> 47:41.200 keep all those up exactly so like you'll always have something to press. 47:41.200 --> 47:53.760 Hemo, rupture, slice, backstab, ambush. Pretty cool. I actually really like the sub rotation 47:53.760 --> 48:00.400 like because before it was like completely useless in PvE. Combat, we can theorycraft 48:00.400 --> 48:06.400 Next combat I think has less than sub sub. I think is the most interesting actually weirdly enough 48:07.960 --> 48:14.720 Combat you'll just be pressing sinister strike slice of this that's three which is pretty light 48:15.040 --> 48:18.240 Is there anything else you actually press this combat besides those three? 48:18.680 --> 48:22.800 Because that is pretty light if it's only slice sinister of this I 48:22.800 --> 48:35.900 Adrenaline, they're like damage abilities. 48:35.900 --> 48:38.740 Expose maybe. 48:38.740 --> 48:45.980 You won't even have this either. 48:45.980 --> 48:51.980 So it'll literally be like sinister strike, keep up slice. 48:51.980 --> 49:06.900 with improved slice you won't have time for any extra spenders one of this per minute I 49:06.900 --> 49:16.300 think you will I think you will a little bit not at 20 no we're talking about like end game 49:16.300 --> 49:21.140 I think like you would have sinister slice and a vis as a spender and then like maybe 49:21.140 --> 49:25.060 every now and then you would expose, but you probably wouldn't be able to too much. 49:26.100 --> 49:30.660 So I agree, combat is a little on the light end, not as interesting as sub, not nearly. 49:30.660 --> 49:34.740 And then a sass is also on the light end. A sass is mutilate, 49:37.380 --> 49:42.660 venom as a finisher, and then keep up slice, which is three. Once again, that's still pretty light. 49:43.460 --> 49:47.620 I don't think there's a fourth. And you know, we're not going to count cold blood or 49:47.620 --> 49:51.900 Anything like that like just damaging buttons mutilate keep up venom keep up slice 49:52.460 --> 49:55.480 So like I have to agree rogue like sub. I think is cool 49:55.480 --> 50:01.540 There's a lot to think about keeping up doing a chemo every 15 seconds doing the back steps using the ambushes 50:02.060 --> 50:06.780 Keeping up slice or rupture or both if you can but you know, we might have enough energy for both 50:06.780 --> 50:10.740 but still I think sub is the most interesting combat is like kind of 50:11.100 --> 50:16.900 Two or three like three buttons, I guess and assasins three buttons as well, which are like a little on the lighter end 50:17.620 --> 50:21.460 That's not sub-rotation. 50:21.460 --> 50:27.380 If that's not, then things would need to be buffed to where... 50:27.380 --> 50:31.180 Like, if you're arguing that, like, I don't know, Hemo isn't worth pressing, then it should 50:31.180 --> 50:34.020 be buffed to be worth pressing, if that's your argument. 50:34.020 --> 50:38.180 So you get to pick your complexity with Rogue? 50:38.180 --> 50:39.180 Yeah, yeah. 50:39.180 --> 50:45.420 Like, I think Assassin Combat could maybe use instead of three buttons go to four. 50:45.420 --> 50:46.780 Rupture won't be worth pressing. 50:46.780 --> 50:50.860 If rupture is not worth pressing, then it just needs to be buffed to be worth pressing. 50:50.860 --> 50:58.740 I think we'd have to assume with that. 50:58.740 --> 51:01.460 The sub-apex silence is a bad design, and it doesn't make much sense. 51:01.460 --> 51:05.980 When your rupture ability deals periodic damage, the energy cost of your next chemo or backstab 51:05.980 --> 51:09.540 ability within 10 seconds is reduced by 3. 51:09.540 --> 51:14.140 Oh wow, okay, so you're like really incentivized to rupture. 51:14.140 --> 51:16.740 I didn't even read this one. 51:16.740 --> 51:18.060 Hopefully, it's good enough to use. 51:18.060 --> 51:20.260 Like I said, if an ability isn't good enough to use, 51:20.260 --> 51:21.340 then you can always get buffed. 51:21.340 --> 51:23.700 Like if people are saying, well, rupture is not worth using, 51:23.700 --> 51:25.460 it's like, OK, well, then it could use a buff. 51:25.460 --> 51:25.960 Sure. 51:33.900 --> 51:35.780 Mute Rogue is still two buttons. 51:35.780 --> 51:39.300 I'm counting Mutilate, Venom, and Slice. 51:39.300 --> 51:43.380 I'm not even counting a secondary expose 51:43.380 --> 51:44.840 or anything like that. 51:44.840 --> 51:45.920 Is that not three? 51:45.920 --> 51:47.580 Mutilate, Venom Slice? 51:55.900 --> 51:58.340 I think Sub will be Himo instead of Backstab, 51:58.340 --> 52:00.340 and Backstab only at Five Stack. 52:03.700 --> 52:05.540 I would assume you would Himo just for the buff, 52:05.540 --> 52:07.500 like once every 15 seconds, but. 52:13.380 --> 52:21.540 Zaru is too hyper focused on single target rotations and extended combat. 52:21.540 --> 52:26.220 I'm really focused on like four things like how the game feels in solo play, how the game 52:26.220 --> 52:31.140 feels in Dungeoning, how the game feels in PvP, and then how the game feels in Endgame. 52:31.140 --> 52:36.860 The current conversation is Endgame, but all four are really important, right? 52:36.860 --> 52:43.360 I think just looking at 1-0, this only has to be good or feel like fun in PvP or only 52:43.360 --> 52:47.200 dungeons or only in solo play or only in endgame is a mistake so I agree with you. 52:48.240 --> 52:51.600 Has to be you have to like look at it like holistically like is this something you would 52:51.600 --> 53:01.440 play right? Endgame is more than just single target is the point uh like like rating? 53:04.800 --> 53:09.280 Um I mean in classic WoW how many bosses have like ads? 53:09.280 --> 53:17.640 Nefarian and BWL. Like maybe there'll be some new ones with it. 53:17.640 --> 53:24.480 Anixia-Welps. There's a handful I suppose, but like, let's be honest, the large, large, 53:24.480 --> 53:29.160 large majority is like, you know, you're hitting your rotation. 53:29.160 --> 53:34.920 Rating is pretty much single target. Yeah, for the most part. 53:34.920 --> 53:40.800 a dual tournament, we'll have stuff to announce on a dual tournament coming up at some point 53:40.800 --> 53:42.800 soon. 54:05.640 --> 54:07.640 Rating is 80% 54:07.960 --> 54:11.720 Trash packs. Oh clearing the trash between the bosses. I'd yeah, I suppose 54:14.920 --> 54:19.040 Bfd state before level cap increases so we have level cap increase next Thursday 54:19.040 --> 54:22.160 So I think we have a whole another week, but yes, I did definitely do under some Bfd 54:29.040 --> 54:34.560 It worked in 2005 so why change it at all so like so like yeah, I mean 54:34.920 --> 54:40.480 We've already talked about this a ton, but let's use the Warlock example. 54:40.480 --> 54:45.800 So Warlocks are a class in classic era that are really fun to level. 54:45.800 --> 54:48.560 Like 1 to 59, they're so fun. 54:48.560 --> 54:53.320 So many buttons to press, dots, and like out in the world and thunge and some PvP, like 54:53.320 --> 54:56.200 they're very dynamic, right? 54:56.200 --> 54:57.560 Use your whole toolkit. 54:57.560 --> 54:58.560 It's awesome. 54:58.560 --> 55:03.600 But right when you hit 60 as a Warlock and you graduate to raiding, you're reduced to 55:03.600 --> 55:04.880 a one button class. 55:04.880 --> 55:09.480 just shadow bolt so you could say well why change that it's always been that way or you 55:09.480 --> 55:16.760 could say this is classic plus these are the problems these are the exact problems we're 55:16.760 --> 55:23.200 trying to fix right so for warlock should it just be shadow bolt because it's always 55:23.200 --> 55:28.980 been that way and it's fine or should warlock continue its fun dynamic kit even at level 55:28.980 --> 55:30.980 60 so I 55:31.500 --> 55:34.180 Yeah, guys, I don't know some of you guys 55:34.180 --> 55:40.620 I think are just arguing to try to argue like I we've had all these conversations for a long time for like a year or two now 55:40.620 --> 55:45.740 I don't I don't know what kind of weird. Yeah, I don't know what's yeah 55:45.740 --> 55:51.200 I don't know guys we want classes to have more than one button. I don't know does this need to be said 55:58.980 --> 56:07.940 We all don't share your opinion. Well, if you want classes to have one button, then 56:07.940 --> 56:12.460 classic era is still there for you. But I don't think that's the goal of this game. 56:12.460 --> 56:18.300 I, yeah, I actually talked to a, a, a WoW dev, a forever WoW dev. And I asked him, what's 56:18.300 --> 56:23.060 the goal for this game? Right? Because that's a good question to ask. What kind of rotational 56:23.060 --> 56:28.260 complexity are you after? Right? Because that is really like a very top level question. 56:28.260 --> 56:30.380 What are we trying to do here? 56:30.380 --> 56:33.180 And he said the goal is three to five button rotations 56:33.180 --> 56:34.540 on a single target. 56:34.540 --> 56:37.860 So there we go. 56:37.860 --> 56:38.420 We know. 56:38.420 --> 56:41.500 We know what we're after. 56:41.500 --> 56:43.460 And I think most classes are hitting that. 56:43.460 --> 56:45.300 So that's good. 56:55.500 --> 56:57.260 Shad is just not getting it. 56:57.260 --> 57:01.820 I think I'm trying to be as clear as I can here, but I think for some people it's not not clicking. I don't know 57:09.100 --> 57:11.620 Stay strong czar. Thanks, man 57:11.620 --> 57:16.260 I think I think it's like a vocal minority of people that are kind of kind of confused, but I think the I 57:16.860 --> 57:19.020 Think I think most people are on the same page here 57:20.060 --> 57:23.180 Tweet from the forever dev. Yes, I actually wanted to check this out today 57:23.180 --> 57:30.180 Definitely. I saw this this morning and I read through a little bit. I was like, oh my gosh, we're covering this on stream. 57:36.180 --> 57:41.180 John says, from YouTube, one second. 57:48.180 --> 57:49.180 Yeah, fair enough. 57:49.180 --> 57:50.180 Fair enough. 57:50.180 --> 57:52.900 It's time for us hybrids to shine. 57:52.900 --> 57:53.900 Hybrid hog? 57:53.900 --> 57:54.900 Yeah, thanks for the five, man. 57:54.900 --> 57:57.980 We got a $10 super chef from Sean saying, what are they doing to combat? 57:57.980 --> 58:00.780 Restless blades replaced by literally nothing. 58:00.780 --> 58:05.100 Do you see changes before live? 58:05.100 --> 58:10.460 I haven't played too much rogue yet. 58:10.460 --> 58:18.140 So yeah, I do think besides mage, rogue, assassination, and combatries could maybe use a little bit 58:18.140 --> 58:22.540 love rotationally. I actually do agree with that. Like we looked at every single class in the game 58:23.180 --> 58:32.620 and I think Rogue is like the second least complex so I think I think that I definitely 58:32.620 --> 58:42.940 do think it could use some love. I think everyone just wishes they were a panelie in terms of 58:42.940 --> 58:48.640 of complexity is like they're in such a good spot. Holy, Prott and Rhett. So cool what they've done and Hunter. 58:48.840 --> 58:50.040 Everyone's loving Hunter too. 58:52.040 --> 58:58.240 I think Rogue does feel a bit light. I think Priest is in a really great spot. I think Shaman, actually, I don't know too much about 58:58.240 --> 59:07.540 in hands. Locke is in a six spot. I think Truid. I feel like I need to look at a bit more balance is pretty cool, but 59:08.240 --> 59:10.640 they did actually just change balance like yesterday. 59:12.940 --> 59:21.340 Is there a new blue post? Let me see. 59:21.340 --> 59:27.940 I love Locke. Locke is perfect. Dude, Locke looks so cool. I should be specific. Affliction 59:27.940 --> 59:34.460 Locke looks so cool. They have a new spell called Rack. Tears the target apart from within 59:34.460 --> 59:40.060 dealing shadow damage and increasing damage they take from your other shadow dots. So 59:40.060 --> 59:46.860 cool it's a channel too so it goes through pillars you know and it allows you to actually 59:46.860 --> 59:50.420 just fully thought an enemy then send this so you can actually play affliction and pve 59:50.420 --> 01:00:03.340 like it sounds so fun to me that's just haunt but channeled yeah yeah I love it man 01:00:03.340 --> 01:00:10.460 I'm loving Priest, yeah, I think there's some classes in a really good spot. 01:00:10.460 --> 01:00:17.940 SLSL is going to be a menace, I think so, yeah. 01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:21.340 Warrior talk, like when I read the warrior talents, they seem pretty fun. 01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:27.220 I played Prott on the demo and Prott is really fun. 01:00:27.220 --> 01:00:31.980 In terms of PvP, you'll probably play Arms because Mortal Strike is Mortal Strike, so 01:00:31.980 --> 01:00:32.980 you know it is what it is. 01:00:32.980 --> 01:00:42.980 in terms of PvE like the fury rotation still seems cool, but rage being so low and world buffs being gone might mean that warriors just need more rage. 01:00:42.980 --> 01:00:50.980 Like there might need to be a talent that gives you more rage like increases your rage and somehow that's my big. 01:00:50.980 --> 01:00:58.980 That's what I'm hearing from warriors and that's my big concern with warriors with no world buffs and crits not generating more rage. 01:00:58.980 --> 01:01:03.320 Warriors might just be kind of rage-starved in a raid and that's no fun, so that's that's my big like 01:01:04.020 --> 01:01:06.660 Thing with warriors, but everything else seems pretty cool 01:01:16.180 --> 01:01:19.480 This is a must-watch about the art direction in forever, let me see I 01:01:20.500 --> 01:01:26.360 Want to ask you a question. This is the theory wise one. Okay. We'll see if we can get the theory wise one in and this tweet in 01:01:28.980 --> 01:01:32.940 But I think Eureka will be nerfed it probably will be yeah 01:01:37.620 --> 01:01:39.620 Yeah 01:01:50.620 --> 01:01:58.280 Goodness gracious removing perma rage for warrior. Yeah, okay guys. Okay. I think I've just figured out what it is and I touched on this yesterday 01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:04.260 People have this really weird thing where they don't want other classes to have fun. 01:02:04.260 --> 01:02:09.060 Like, I was talking about hunters getting nerfed or something, and then people said, 01:02:09.060 --> 01:02:10.700 good, let them rot. 01:02:10.700 --> 01:02:11.700 Screw hunters. 01:02:11.700 --> 01:02:16.300 And then I talk about warriors, and I say, oh, they might need more rage, and people 01:02:16.300 --> 01:02:20.060 say, screw warriors, they've been OP for too long. 01:02:20.060 --> 01:02:25.660 And then I'm talking about mages, you know, needing more than, like, 80% one button, and 01:02:25.660 --> 01:02:27.300 You want like, you know, maybe three or four 01:02:27.300 --> 01:02:30.500 like the rest of the classes and people say, screw mages. 01:02:30.500 --> 01:02:33.060 Like what is this toxic mentality? 01:02:33.060 --> 01:02:34.700 If you have that mentality, leave the chat. 01:02:34.700 --> 01:02:36.500 Like that is so toxic. 01:02:36.500 --> 01:02:37.740 That is so toxic. 01:02:37.740 --> 01:02:40.540 Guys, that is not how you make a fun game. 01:02:40.540 --> 01:02:42.900 You bring everything up and make things all fun. 01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:44.540 Like warriors were in era. 01:02:45.460 --> 01:02:48.940 Like, I don't know why this needs to be said. 01:02:48.940 --> 01:02:50.300 Goodbye, goodbye. 01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:52.080 Like goodness gracious. 01:02:52.080 --> 01:02:56.040 That is like so toxic if you're thinking that way, man. 01:02:56.040 --> 01:02:58.280 Good, that class deserves to suck. 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.200 That class deserves to be one button. 01:03:00.200 --> 01:03:02.000 Like that is, come on guys, 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:03.960 let's make a fun game for everyone. 01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:05.520 Let's bring everyone up 01:03:05.520 --> 01:03:07.980 to how good warriors feel in era, right? 01:03:07.980 --> 01:03:09.600 Like that's the goal here. 01:03:09.600 --> 01:03:11.200 We want people having fun 01:03:11.200 --> 01:03:13.160 despite what class you're playing. 01:03:14.340 --> 01:03:16.880 The whole like good, let them rot mentality 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:18.960 is just like unbelievable. 01:03:19.940 --> 01:03:21.340 Get out of here with that, man. 01:03:22.080 --> 01:03:27.800 Ah, here we go. Now my chat's waking up. Yeah, that's not here we go 01:03:32.680 --> 01:03:34.680 There it is 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.440 There we go 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:56.440 Oh, man. 01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:01.640 Alright. 01:04:01.640 --> 01:04:02.640 Let's get into this. 01:04:02.640 --> 01:04:05.480 We've spent enough time on that. 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:07.440 Marmstrung, wow. 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:08.440 This is... 01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:10.440 Who is this? This is a WoW Dev. 01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:13.440 World of Warcraft Forever World Builder. 01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:17.440 Corn, Fed, and Nebraska Boy, Marmstrong WoW. 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.440 He has a long tweet that a lot of you guys have been linking to me, 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:24.440 talking about his goal for the game. 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:26.440 And I started reading it a little bit and I was like, 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:28.440 oh my gosh, we gotta cover this on stream because this is some good stuff, 01:04:28.440 --> 01:04:29.440 so let's get into it. 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:33.440 I'm seeing a lot of discourse about who WoW Forever is being made for, 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.440 and while I cannot speak for anyone else on the team, 01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:37.440 I can speak for myself. 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:43.440 Cool. I'm making WoW forever for the classic gamer and for the millions of people who have 01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:48.300 had their accounts last over the years because they were not satisfied with changes that 01:04:48.300 --> 01:04:49.640 were made to the game. 01:04:49.640 --> 01:04:57.080 Okay, so this is what I've been saying for years. I've made the crazy copium take like 01:04:57.080 --> 01:05:03.440 three years ago or two years ago that if they do classic plus, it has the potential to be 01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:10.480 bigger than retail and my copium crazy take was backed by this right here. 01:05:11.520 --> 01:05:20.880 How many millions of people love WoW but quit for one reason or another over the last 20 years 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.840 because they don't like what Blizzard has done with retail for one reason or another something 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:32.320 didn't jive with them and they quit and they almost want to play but they just don't like it anymore 01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:35.800 Literally, like, I don't know how many. 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.240 I could make up a number, 50 million, 100 million. 01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:42.640 There's so many of these people out there. 01:05:42.640 --> 01:05:46.400 So my take is, if you do Classic Plus, right? 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:49.560 You have way more people to market to 01:05:49.560 --> 01:05:51.580 than a new retail expansion. 01:05:51.580 --> 01:05:54.700 And for that reason, I formed the opinion 01:05:54.700 --> 01:05:57.940 that Classic Plus has the potential, if done right, 01:05:57.940 --> 01:05:59.340 to be bigger than retail. 01:05:59.340 --> 01:06:01.060 And then I said that like two or three years ago 01:06:01.060 --> 01:06:05.260 everyone's like you're an idiot but like I still think it's true mainly for 01:06:05.260 --> 01:06:11.620 this reason there's just so many people in this bucket right compared to oh we 01:06:11.620 --> 01:06:14.860 have a new retail expansion and people of like in their minds said well I 01:06:14.860 --> 01:06:17.900 already quit retail for one reason or another so like I'm not gonna even play 01:06:17.900 --> 01:06:24.580 that anyway let's keep moving whether those changes were to the art style the 01:06:24.580 --> 01:06:29.020 story the social aspects the game design or changes to the favorite class so 01:06:29.020 --> 01:06:35.820 art style this is a big one I think the art style for me is like a huge turnoff on retail since 01:06:35.820 --> 01:06:42.140 wad was when the update came in for the models and then dragonflight for the UI that's a big deal 01:06:43.340 --> 01:06:48.060 blizzard that's how we need to revert the art style or add a toggle to get rid of the retail 01:06:48.060 --> 01:06:52.620 UI because a lot of people quit because of this please blizzard I'm gonna keep trying I'm gonna 01:06:52.620 --> 01:06:56.180 and I keep trying, and yeah, this also brings up 01:06:56.180 --> 01:06:59.180 a good point with Skyborne, with their forms, 01:06:59.180 --> 01:07:01.860 the Druid forms, with any new content 01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:04.820 that the art style should fit in the classic world 01:07:04.820 --> 01:07:06.960 so that it feels like you're in the classic world, 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:09.620 not like there's a retail asset in the classic world. 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:14.220 I did not spend the last year of my life 01:07:14.220 --> 01:07:16.080 relearning and mastering how to do things 01:07:16.080 --> 01:07:19.080 like we did it 20 years ago for retail players. 01:07:19.080 --> 01:07:21.220 I could have taken it easy and just kept doing things 01:07:21.220 --> 01:07:23.860 that I had done for the past eight years on retail, 01:07:23.860 --> 01:07:25.900 because I was much more familiar with it, 01:07:25.900 --> 01:07:29.560 and it actually takes a lot less time to do. 01:07:29.560 --> 01:07:32.580 Height maps on textures do a ton of heavy lifting, 01:07:32.580 --> 01:07:34.700 because the reality is the majority of retail players 01:07:34.700 --> 01:07:37.100 wouldn't care and would probably actually prefer it. 01:07:37.100 --> 01:07:39.980 But I felt I had a duty to uphold an artistic vision 01:07:39.980 --> 01:07:42.540 and integrity that millions of people expect from us, 01:07:42.540 --> 01:07:43.500 but not just for our players, 01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:45.060 for my coworkers past and present 01:07:45.060 --> 01:07:46.740 who worked on it for 20 years ago. 01:07:46.740 --> 01:07:49.100 If I could not create something that resembled their work, 01:07:49.100 --> 01:07:51.860 and I failed not only them, but myself. 01:07:51.860 --> 01:07:54.820 Okay, like that's a cool, that like sounds really good. 01:07:54.820 --> 01:07:55.660 I'm curious, 01:07:59.220 --> 01:08:03.220 like the specifics, I almost need like actual examples here. 01:08:03.220 --> 01:08:05.200 Height maps on textures. 01:08:06.580 --> 01:08:08.980 He's just saying he's not gonna do things the retail way. 01:08:08.980 --> 01:08:12.100 Like I'm curious in terms of the, 01:08:13.180 --> 01:08:14.620 yeah, anyway, let's keep reading. 01:08:14.620 --> 01:08:17.180 Cause I do think like they've done pretty good, 01:08:17.180 --> 01:08:20.620 but like more work could be done on the art style front. 01:08:20.620 --> 01:08:21.900 Do you guys agree like it's, 01:08:21.900 --> 01:08:24.420 the art style front is good, 01:08:24.420 --> 01:08:26.180 but like it's not finished. 01:08:26.180 --> 01:08:30.020 Like there needs to cook a little more. 01:08:30.020 --> 01:08:30.940 You know what I mean? 01:08:30.940 --> 01:08:31.780 Yeah. 01:08:33.500 --> 01:08:35.420 Please do not take this as me throwing shade 01:08:35.420 --> 01:08:37.420 at any retail players or the retail team 01:08:37.420 --> 01:08:38.940 because I'm one myself, 01:08:38.940 --> 01:08:41.220 but I wanted to make forever as authentic 01:08:41.220 --> 01:08:43.860 of a vanilla experience as possible. 01:08:43.860 --> 01:08:46.580 This involves making decisions widely different than retail. 01:08:46.580 --> 01:08:48.740 That means holding the line against changes 01:08:48.740 --> 01:08:50.580 that create a domino effect down the road. 01:08:50.580 --> 01:08:52.460 Oh yeah, there we go. 01:08:52.460 --> 01:08:55.380 It means keeping friction and inconveniences in the game. 01:08:55.380 --> 01:08:58.260 Oh yeah, it means finding friends and forming groups 01:08:58.260 --> 01:08:59.900 of strangers and being social. 01:08:59.900 --> 01:09:02.440 Oh yeah, this guy's speaking my language now. 01:09:02.440 --> 01:09:04.300 Because wow, social aspects have always been 01:09:04.300 --> 01:09:06.180 the pillar of the game and over the years 01:09:06.180 --> 01:09:08.180 it has slowly chiseled away at the changes 01:09:08.180 --> 01:09:09.680 that allow you to play alone. 01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:21.280 Hold the line, man. That's amazing. Since the day I started working on the River Glades, 01:09:21.280 --> 01:09:29.760 I have lived by three sayings. Convenience is the death of the journey. True. If you're 01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:38.400 making a game for everyone, then you're making it for no one. So true! So true! So true! This 01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:42.400 This is one of the things that I talk about frequently because people will say like well 01:09:42.400 --> 01:09:47.920 Zahra they should just add Mythic Plus to classic forever because if you don't like 01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:52.360 it then just don't play it but let's make the people that do like it happy. 01:09:52.360 --> 01:09:57.720 It's like if you try to make everyone happy and forever you end up with retail. 01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:03.600 You have to literally just say no this game isn't for you sometimes because we have a 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:12.240 vision here and it needs to stay cohesive to that end goal. It needs to stay on the right path. 01:10:12.240 --> 01:10:19.760 And if you start just going off that path to make everyone happy, then we already did that with 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:26.800 retail, right? We've already done that, right? So instead, it's like, okay, we have retail, 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:32.800 Go play it if that's what you want, but this game is for a specific purpose 01:10:33.480 --> 01:10:36.880 We're not making it for everyone if you don't like it then don't play 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:43.520 But it's it's for this reason we're making this game like I love this man. I love it. I love it 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:51.920 Every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game as sooner or later that debt gets paid wow 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:53.920 This is some gold man 01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:56.680 This is some gold 01:10:57.480 --> 01:10:59.480 This is some gold 01:11:00.160 --> 01:11:05.820 Souter or lead later that debt will be paid. I love that. I love that 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:10.600 These are my core beliefs and I had specific group of people I was targeting with my work 01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:14.520 These beliefs cannot be shaken and I will try to hold the line against anything that goes against them 01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.360 And we'll continue to pester the team about things that feel out of place. Oh 01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:20.040 Yeah 01:11:20.040 --> 01:11:23.000 Guys this guy's on our side. Oh my gosh 01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:31.120 That being said, my hope is that forever will pull in as many people as possible, whether 01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:34.720 you're a retail game or a classic gamer, someone who hasn't played in years or even a new player. 01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.320 I hope you can all remember what made this game so special in the first place. 01:11:37.320 --> 01:11:40.160 It starts with understanding where I'm so passionate about keeping it authentic. 01:11:40.160 --> 01:11:42.440 Bro, I love this. 01:11:42.440 --> 01:11:44.200 I love it, man. 01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:45.360 Unlimited Ws? 01:11:45.360 --> 01:11:46.360 This is great. 01:11:46.360 --> 01:11:51.360 Like so, I feel like classic forever 01:11:52.160 --> 01:11:55.900 needs to be contrasted by retail. 01:11:55.900 --> 01:11:58.100 If you don't have retail there, 01:11:58.100 --> 01:12:03.100 you would feel the seductions of convenience begin to creep in. 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:08.560 But since we have retail to contrast and say, 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.460 look, we've done this, now we can do this, 01:12:11.460 --> 01:12:13.360 it's this really cool thing where it's like, 01:12:13.360 --> 01:12:17.120 we can have both in two different ecosystems. 01:12:17.120 --> 01:12:19.200 Whereas if we didn't have the other end, 01:12:19.200 --> 01:12:21.120 I think it would always be, 01:12:22.360 --> 01:12:25.960 oh, let's let this slowly creep in. 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.480 And let's let's let this, 01:12:28.480 --> 01:12:31.320 let's let this quality of life slowly creep in 01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:33.080 or these conveniences creep in. 01:12:33.080 --> 01:12:36.960 So in that sense, it's really cool that we have both. 01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:38.480 Now we can say go to retail. 01:12:38.480 --> 01:12:39.320 Well, exactly. 01:12:39.320 --> 01:12:40.680 And it sounds, it sounds bad, 01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:44.280 But it's really like there's no right or wrong. 01:12:44.280 --> 01:12:45.640 It's just preference. 01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:48.240 And for some people, you'll play both. 01:12:48.240 --> 01:12:50.720 For some people, if you want to scratch your competitive it, 01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:51.920 you'll play retail. 01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:54.160 But if you're tired after a long day of work 01:12:54.160 --> 01:12:55.960 and you just want to chill, you'll play forever. 01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:57.520 So you'll play both in different ways, 01:12:57.520 --> 01:12:59.120 in different capacities. 01:12:59.120 --> 01:13:04.080 Or some seasons of your life, you might grind keys 01:13:04.080 --> 01:13:05.800 or shuffle or blitz. 01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:07.240 And then other seasons of your life, 01:13:07.240 --> 01:13:09.360 you might want to just make a forever character 01:13:09.360 --> 01:13:16.440 chill out right so you know it doesn't have to be one of the other always you 01:13:16.440 --> 01:13:20.520 could play a little bit of both but I love that you can have two different 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:31.000 games with two different pillars of what they're trying to accomplish right they 01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:35.880 don't need to cross over three now I suppose true link the post yeah so this 01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:39.660 This is from Marmstrong Wow, I'll link it in both YouTube and Twitch. 01:13:39.660 --> 01:13:46.440 This is a very awesome tweet. 01:13:46.440 --> 01:13:50.800 The graphics are already crossed over, yeah, so like the art style is the one thing that 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.960 like for me, I think has crossed over a bit. 01:13:54.960 --> 01:14:02.600 I would love classic Forever unit frames and cast bars at the least. 01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:05.320 So if we're gonna dissect this real quick, 01:14:05.320 --> 01:14:08.600 let me turn off my add-on that changes all this. 01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:12.120 If we're gonna dissect this at least, 01:14:12.120 --> 01:14:15.640 the action bars actually look pretty good, I think. 01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:16.480 They look pretty cool. 01:14:16.480 --> 01:14:21.240 They have that bronze look, you know, whatever, 01:14:21.240 --> 01:14:23.400 that the mini map actually looks pretty good too. 01:14:23.400 --> 01:14:25.520 But this being the unit frame itself, 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:26.880 being copy pasted from retail, 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.200 they should make a new one for forever, forever only. 01:14:29.200 --> 01:14:31.600 Just like the mini map is forever only, 01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:33.240 unit frame forever only, right? 01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:35.240 I don't think that's crazy. 01:14:35.240 --> 01:14:37.240 And then like the action bars I think are good, 01:14:37.240 --> 01:14:38.420 the minimap's good. 01:14:40.040 --> 01:14:43.800 You know, like I think the rest is probably fine. 01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:45.120 It's really just like the unit frame 01:14:45.120 --> 01:14:46.720 and then the CASPAR, the CASPAR. 01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:48.800 So the CASPAR is the same as retail as well. 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:50.720 So new CASPAR, new unit frame, 01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:52.720 and I think we're pretty happy I think. 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.040 No, sorry, we need the full classic UI. 01:14:56.040 --> 01:14:57.860 Well, like that would be my preference too, 01:14:57.860 --> 01:15:02.020 But I'm saying in terms of not just making me happy, 01:15:02.020 --> 01:15:04.440 but like being true to the vision 01:15:04.440 --> 01:15:08.460 of creating a new art style that isn't classic, 01:15:08.460 --> 01:15:09.300 but isn't retail. 01:15:09.300 --> 01:15:10.900 It's this like true third pillar 01:15:10.900 --> 01:15:12.860 of we're doing something new here, 01:15:12.860 --> 01:15:14.300 like they did with the action bars, 01:15:14.300 --> 01:15:15.980 like they did with the mini map 01:15:15.980 --> 01:15:20.460 at the very least is a new unit frame and Caspar. 01:15:20.460 --> 01:15:22.460 You know 01:15:25.620 --> 01:15:29.120 But I still still still absolutely love this man, this is great 01:15:37.860 --> 01:15:43.220 New models for skyborne, yeah, I would like the blood off models for SD option on skyborne. I think that'd be cool 01:15:50.460 --> 01:16:04.020 Okay, let me check out this vid. 01:16:04.020 --> 01:16:07.380 Good time to watch the theory-wise vid, exactly, yep, and that's all it's just about to do. 01:16:07.380 --> 01:16:09.380 Let's do it. 01:16:09.380 --> 01:16:13.180 Okay, so this is a theory-wise vid. 01:16:13.180 --> 01:16:16.740 So many of you guys have been linking this one to me. 01:16:16.740 --> 01:16:20.180 This is, wow, forever has an identity problem. 01:16:20.180 --> 01:16:27.860 Yeah, like just based on the title, we can already, we've already been having this conversation 01:16:27.860 --> 01:16:30.820 and we have the SD, the HD. 01:16:30.820 --> 01:16:34.340 Obviously the world has all of these old assets. 01:16:34.340 --> 01:16:40.180 It looks like, you know, classic, but then you'll see like this right here, you know, 01:16:40.180 --> 01:16:44.380 the new cat form for Skyborn. 01:16:44.380 --> 01:16:46.860 And it's like some things might feel out of place, you know, 01:16:46.860 --> 01:16:48.380 or maybe you don't think that, 01:16:48.380 --> 01:16:50.100 but I think it's worth the conversation. 01:16:50.100 --> 01:16:54.160 So we have the Skyborn, some new assets. 01:16:54.160 --> 01:16:55.000 Do they fit? 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:55.840 Do they not fit? 01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.000 Let's take a look here. 01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:59.680 I want to ask you a question. 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:00.520 Sure. 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:02.960 Does this asset look like it belongs 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.620 in vanilla world of Warcraft? 01:17:05.620 --> 01:17:06.460 Yeah, so, 01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:09.020 so, so yeah. 01:17:09.020 --> 01:17:11.980 I mean, no, not really. 01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:15.660 No, no. 01:17:15.660 --> 01:17:17.420 So what could actually be improved? 01:17:17.420 --> 01:17:20.460 Like, it's easy to complain, but if I don't know what, 01:17:20.460 --> 01:17:22.300 I'm not an artist. 01:17:22.300 --> 01:17:23.900 Like, what is it really? 01:17:23.900 --> 01:17:27.220 Is it too many feathers? 01:17:27.220 --> 01:17:29.500 Is it like, because it's already like low poly 01:17:29.500 --> 01:17:33.980 in a sense here, it's the colors. 01:17:33.980 --> 01:17:35.340 You guys think it's mainly coloring 01:17:35.340 --> 01:17:37.220 or do you think it's like the actual, 01:17:37.220 --> 01:17:40.500 like so many, like so much geometry too, 01:17:40.500 --> 01:17:44.220 like boom, boom, boom, boom, like so many sharp edges, both. 01:17:44.220 --> 01:17:48.780 So a little less geometry and tone down the colors. 01:17:48.780 --> 01:17:50.540 I kind of agree, the color palette, 01:17:50.540 --> 01:17:51.540 I actually agree with that. 01:17:51.540 --> 01:17:53.780 The color palette's like a little out of place. 01:17:55.580 --> 01:17:57.620 So you turn down the geometry a bit, 01:17:57.620 --> 01:18:01.020 like remove some of the, like there's just so much compared, 01:18:01.020 --> 01:18:03.300 it's like visual almost overload, 01:18:03.300 --> 01:18:04.980 and then the color palette, I agree, 01:18:04.980 --> 01:18:06.660 then it might fit a little better. 01:18:06.660 --> 01:18:07.920 Cool. 01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:10.920 Now, before someone says, no, of course not. 01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:12.040 It's new. 01:18:12.040 --> 01:18:13.840 That's not what I mean. 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.280 What I'm asking is if it looks like it could have released 01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:20.520 between 2004 and 2006. 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.480 Because from everything that we've heard at BlizzCon, 01:18:23.480 --> 01:18:26.400 that is the intent of Wow Forever, 01:18:26.400 --> 01:18:29.700 to feel like a natural extension of the world. 01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:34.820 We believe Wow Classics art style is timeless, 01:18:34.820 --> 01:18:45.820 Which is why our focus was not on changing the game art, but on small ways we could push specifically things like the environmental effects. 01:18:45.820 --> 01:18:51.820 Forever wants to extend vanilla, make it forever, by adding more of what we have come to love with classic. 01:18:51.820 --> 01:19:01.820 My issue isn't new assets, isn't new updates, it's that some of the new art doesn't feel like it belongs to vanilla's visual language. 01:19:02.660 --> 01:19:03.940 Wait, I haven't seen these. 01:19:03.940 --> 01:19:05.620 It's still like once again, the same problem. 01:19:05.620 --> 01:19:07.620 Too much geometry, too much. 01:19:07.620 --> 01:19:09.500 The color palette's too vibrant. 01:19:11.140 --> 01:19:13.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah. 01:19:13.300 --> 01:19:14.420 Man, I feel so bad, 01:19:14.420 --> 01:19:16.380 because I don't wanna hate on any of these artists 01:19:16.380 --> 01:19:18.460 at Blizzard, because like these artists are great, 01:19:18.460 --> 01:19:21.340 but it's like, it's just different kind of art, right? 01:19:21.340 --> 01:19:25.100 It's like, it looks like it could be on retail. 01:19:25.100 --> 01:19:28.100 Like two cute people are sitting, like the eyes, like, 01:19:29.140 --> 01:19:31.180 yeah, no, I tend to agree, guys. 01:19:31.180 --> 01:19:32.860 I tend to agree, you know? 01:19:33.980 --> 01:19:37.660 Let me let me just say the game is absolutely gorgeous with the lighting 01:19:37.660 --> 01:19:40.180 updates, the fog, the the shadows. 01:19:40.180 --> 01:19:43.300 Like it looks incredible when you're playing Wow, forever. 01:19:43.460 --> 01:19:46.700 But some of these new assets that are being created, like definitely feel a 01:19:46.700 --> 01:19:48.460 little jarring to say the least. 01:19:49.740 --> 01:19:54.740 So the answer to my question, I think is clearly no. 01:19:54.980 --> 01:19:57.340 It's a totally different art style. 01:19:57.340 --> 01:20:05.340 In this video, we'll explore how and why I think that is, because as it stands, the assets added are an incoherent mess. 01:20:05.340 --> 01:20:14.340 I think this is a fair criticism. In fact, this might be my biggest criticism of forever, it's literally just art. 01:20:14.340 --> 01:20:22.340 The game itself is awesome. A lot of the stuff they added, like, no worldbots camping, some of these new talents, 01:20:22.340 --> 01:20:26.060 the scroll comprehension for mages, 01:20:26.060 --> 01:20:28.380 like all of these new items, the dungeons, 01:20:28.380 --> 01:20:30.940 are amazing, the quests, the world, the river, 01:20:30.940 --> 01:20:35.620 like the, it's literally just like the art and the UI. 01:20:35.620 --> 01:20:37.900 It's like the biggest problems is the art. 01:20:37.900 --> 01:20:40.560 It's trying to get new stuff into this game 01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:42.660 that made it look like it was always there. 01:20:43.620 --> 01:20:45.540 Right, because yeah, this is clearly vanilla. 01:20:45.540 --> 01:20:47.380 So how could you make this look more like this? 01:20:47.380 --> 01:20:51.640 Yeah, definitely less like feathering for sure, too. 01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:57.280 detract from the otherwise beautiful work done by the team behind the rendering update. 01:20:57.280 --> 01:20:59.040 So far, I like the game. 01:20:59.040 --> 01:21:01.200 I think it's off to a good start. 01:21:01.200 --> 01:21:05.360 I like most of the changes they've made, and if the game is ever to have the longevity 01:21:05.360 --> 01:21:10.800 of old school games, I actually support even larger changes to secure its future. 01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:14.240 I am the opposite of a no changes player. 01:21:14.240 --> 01:21:18.400 I don't want just new dungeons and raids for 10 years. 01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:23.760 With that said, I want a world that looks cohesive, with sound art direction, a world 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:28.980 that grows inward and captures the aesthetics of what it is in veneration of. 01:21:28.980 --> 01:21:35.400 The issue with these new assets is not texture resolution or even the amount of polygons. 01:21:35.400 --> 01:21:41.000 This is an art direction problem, something that happens when two or more different art 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.920 styles clash in an unintentional, ugly way. 01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:49.280 That spot on theory wise, these are great actual examples 01:21:49.280 --> 01:21:51.820 like classic, not classic, 01:21:51.820 --> 01:21:55.320 mixing these two in the same world, tough, right? 01:21:55.320 --> 01:21:57.640 Spot on, spot on. 01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:00.240 I actually maybe should just forward this video to Blizzard 01:22:00.240 --> 01:22:03.640 like, because I really think the art team might be like, 01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:06.760 like legitimately and honestly like struggling with this 01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.280 because it's like, okay, we do this stuff for retail 01:22:09.280 --> 01:22:10.400 and it's just so different. 01:22:10.400 --> 01:22:12.040 Like it might be a learning curve thing. 01:22:12.040 --> 01:22:15.120 I think Akron had an interview. 01:22:15.120 --> 01:22:17.200 I think I remember watching a panel or an interview 01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:20.040 where he was literally, no, it was the Q and A. 01:22:20.040 --> 01:22:22.120 And he was saying it's been a learning curve 01:22:22.120 --> 01:22:23.120 for our art team. 01:22:23.120 --> 01:22:25.840 Like they're, we're trying to get this right. 01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:29.360 Cause clearly like it is very different, you know? 01:22:29.360 --> 01:22:31.940 But yeah, very fair criticism here. 01:22:31.940 --> 01:22:34.120 Right now forever is in its beta 01:22:34.120 --> 01:22:35.760 and Blizzard asked for feedback. 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:37.840 So here's some feedback. 01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:38.680 Yeah. 01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:40.160 Wow, forever is classic plus. 01:22:40.160 --> 01:22:43.600 That's why moments after the reveal, Holly Longdale said, 01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:50.600 Yes, yes, yes, yes, this is Classic Plus. 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:52.600 Woo-hoo! 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:54.000 That transmog is so cool. 01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:54.920 Who called it that? 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:55.720 Classic Plus. 01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:58.280 The world should still feel like Classic. 01:22:58.280 --> 01:23:00.280 Classic Warcraft aesthetics. 01:23:00.280 --> 01:23:02.360 Wow, Classic, Classic, Classic. 01:23:02.360 --> 01:23:04.960 We're really excited about this one 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:07.760 and how well it fits in the Classic World Design philosophy. 01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:16.880 Classic Plus. Transmog? Not in my Classic Plus. Classic Evergreen. Classic Azeroth. 01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:23.760 When I started on Classic, our dream was to get here. This is Classic Plus. 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:28.720 It's also why every single BlizzCon panel about the game was all about keeping it faithful to 01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:34.480 Classic or vanilla World of Warcraft. Of course, they couldn't actually call it Classic Plus, 01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:39.760 since that'd be silly. Classic Plus is not a product name, it's not marketable. I'd argue 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:42.880 Forever is pretty bad too, but that's neither here nor there. 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:48.720 The point is, Classic Plus is classic World of Warcraft or vanilla, augmented, enhanced. 01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:53.600 New updates, new systems, all in the vague spirit of what made the game so exceptional 01:23:53.600 --> 01:24:00.480 two decades ago. Changes are expected, encouraged even. We'll see good changes and bad changes. 01:24:00.480 --> 01:24:06.480 It's likely that we'll get a whole bunch of both, which is why being critical and honest is so crucial. 01:24:06.480 --> 01:24:17.480 The player base's responsibility, our responsibility, is to steer the game for the developers to have as easy a time understanding what the demographic of people actually playing enjoys. 01:24:17.480 --> 01:24:29.480 This video is all about critical, honest feedback, because as it stands, the game is good and I'm enjoying the beta, but there are two large flaws in it that I want to cover in their own dedicated videos. 01:24:29.480 --> 01:24:35.240 videos. In this one, we'll talk about the visuals, or better put, the visual inconsistencies 01:24:35.240 --> 01:24:38.840 that will only get worse if they aren't called out and fixed now. 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:39.340 Sure. 01:24:39.340 --> 01:24:45.200 These issues really do scream of a rush development that prioritized like, I think that's very 01:24:45.200 --> 01:24:49.640 true. This is a beta and this is literally the time to call this kind of stuff out in 01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:57.080 a nice and friendly way. Okay. In a constructive and positive manner, you guys. But yeah, absolutely. 01:24:57.080 --> 01:25:00.760 Look this stuff doesn't feel like it fits let's not do more of this 01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:06.760 I didn't see these weapons, but I kind of agree like you look at just like classic stuff like side-by-side 01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:11.760 It is it is quite jarring you know feed over art direction as I've said 01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:16.320 I'm not referring to the new rendering technology. I actually think it looks incredible 01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.120 Likely the single coolest change they've made so far 01:25:20.120 --> 01:25:25.960 Yeah, I would say those new visuals are a perfect encapsulation of what classic plus or forever 01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:32.040 forever should be in microcosm, taking the original world and augmenting it, interpreting 01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:37.360 its vibe, its stories and its hooks and then making them all the better, more immersive 01:25:37.360 --> 01:25:41.080 and evocative without changing the nature of the world itself. 01:25:41.080 --> 01:25:42.080 Oh, I look so good. 01:25:42.080 --> 01:25:46.120 Now one asset was replaced or supplanted, just made better. 01:25:46.120 --> 01:25:50.200 I love this stuff and the team behind it knocked it completely out of the park. 01:25:50.200 --> 01:25:51.200 No notes. 01:25:51.200 --> 01:25:56.160 Instead, I want to turn my eye to the second kind of visual change, new assets. 01:25:56.160 --> 01:25:59.800 Much has been said about the UI, frankly, there will be add-ons for it, I'm not too 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:03.320 broken up, even though yes, it's pretty garish and out of place. 01:26:03.320 --> 01:26:09.020 Yes, the retail icons in the character creation screen are hideous, soulless, and gross. 01:26:09.020 --> 01:26:11.640 But as it stands, there are bigger fish to fry. 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.440 Instead, I'm talking about these assets. 01:26:14.440 --> 01:26:18.960 Something quickly noticed is that while Forever and its developers at Blizzcon claim to love 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.120 and value the original Warcraft aesthetic, 01:26:22.120 --> 01:26:26.340 that hasn't held entirely true for, well, 01:26:26.340 --> 01:26:29.360 any new asset added to the game. 01:26:29.360 --> 01:26:33.600 We believe WoW Classic's art style is timeless. 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:35.080 I don't want you to think that I'm saying 01:26:35.080 --> 01:26:36.840 that these developers are lying, 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:39.840 nor do I see anything but passion from them. 01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:42.320 I fully believe they love WoW 01:26:42.320 --> 01:26:44.960 and want forever to be the best it can be. 01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:47.280 However, it's still an issue. 01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:51.660 All the promo art at BlizzCon was using classic models for a reason. 01:26:51.660 --> 01:26:56.920 Each mention of HD models was done as a reference point to how they are trying to make them 01:26:56.920 --> 01:26:59.940 like classic models in whatever way they can. 01:26:59.940 --> 01:27:03.100 And the toggle, yeah, let's talk about the toggle. 01:27:03.100 --> 01:27:08.400 While I appreciate it in theory, it doesn't really solve anything, it only applies to the 01:27:08.400 --> 01:27:09.560 original races. 01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:12.020 To my knowledge, not even the Skyborne get it. 01:27:12.020 --> 01:27:15.860 It has zero effect on any other new asset, 01:27:15.860 --> 01:27:19.420 no creatures, armors, weapons, and so on. 01:27:19.420 --> 01:27:23.740 I think the toggle might have been marketed in a way 01:27:23.740 --> 01:27:27.500 to make people think that it was a global toggle. 01:27:27.500 --> 01:27:28.940 Cause when I was playing at BlizzCon, 01:27:28.940 --> 01:27:32.540 everyone's like, oh toggle, show me what the SD world looks 01:27:32.540 --> 01:27:34.100 like compared to the HD world. 01:27:35.220 --> 01:27:36.460 This was just not the case. 01:27:36.460 --> 01:27:40.300 It is a character model toggle. 01:27:40.300 --> 01:27:41.960 There's other options in the game, 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:45.040 like turning quests help off 01:27:45.040 --> 01:27:49.280 or the positioning of your unit frames, 01:27:49.280 --> 01:27:54.280 but it's literally a character model toggle, right? 01:27:56.180 --> 01:27:57.460 That's what I understood too. 01:27:57.460 --> 01:28:00.000 Yeah, so I think there was a lot of miscommunication here. 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.200 Yeah, a lot of people in the chat 01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:02.560 seem confused on this one. 01:28:04.320 --> 01:28:07.020 Regardless, yeah, like you can use the old models, 01:28:07.020 --> 01:28:09.540 but that's not gonna change anything else. 01:28:09.540 --> 01:28:11.680 And that makes sense too, why would it? 01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:15.840 It's not like Blizzard is about to create two entirely different style of items and 01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:17.380 double their workload. 01:28:17.380 --> 01:28:22.600 The only reason it works on the original models is because they already exist. 01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:27.880 Anything new is very, very clearly nothing like the original art style. 01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.480 So like, why even talk about it? 01:28:30.480 --> 01:28:32.720 It's almost confusing to me. 01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:37.680 There was so much effort put into reassuring players that they are aligned with their love 01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:39.360 for the original art style, 01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:42.420 yet none of that has extended to the assets, 01:28:42.420 --> 01:28:45.300 both those seen in the beta and those data mined. 01:28:45.300 --> 01:28:49.500 We believe WoW Classics Art Style is timeless. 01:28:49.500 --> 01:28:51.600 Pushing stylistically different models 01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:54.700 into an otherwise faithful interpretation of something 01:28:54.700 --> 01:28:56.740 comes off as jarring. 01:28:56.740 --> 01:28:59.740 If I were to plop down the Mario model from Odyssey 01:28:59.740 --> 01:29:03.020 into Mario 64, it would look weird. 01:29:03.020 --> 01:29:06.380 Sure, the modern Mario model looks nice in a vacuum, 01:29:06.380 --> 01:29:10.160 but in relation to the world itself, it totally clashes. 01:29:10.160 --> 01:29:13.400 This video is just on point. 01:29:13.400 --> 01:29:15.000 Absolutely. 01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.000 Yes. 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.440 I really think this video needs to be played 01:29:18.440 --> 01:29:20.160 for like the art team. 01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:22.400 And like they have to sit through the whole thing 01:29:22.400 --> 01:29:24.360 and start to finish and get their like check mark 01:29:24.360 --> 01:29:27.400 of like, okay, you watch this because it's a big deal. 01:29:27.400 --> 01:29:30.400 You know, and it's not like any hate, it's good art. 01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:31.720 It's just, it doesn't fit. 01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:35.080 It, you know, I think it's very, very, very true. 01:29:35.080 --> 01:29:41.000 would betray the art style and vice versa. Great art direction is established through 01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:47.080 consistency, through things looking like they belong together. This doesn't look like it 01:29:47.080 --> 01:29:52.300 belongs because it doesn't. It was created for a game with an entirely different art 01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:58.480 direction and style retail. Wow. Then backported into forever with its texture resolution set 01:29:58.480 --> 01:30:03.800 to medium. Some models received minor changes like removing a flared feather, but the entire 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:09.100 structure and style of the model remains entirely identical to the modern incarnation 01:30:09.100 --> 01:30:10.620 of World of Warcraft. 01:30:10.620 --> 01:30:14.740 In other words, it looks weird as hell in my opinion. 01:30:14.740 --> 01:30:18.060 To be clear, texture resolution is not the issue. 01:30:18.060 --> 01:30:22.580 You can crush that all you want, you can even strip away some polygons for good measure, 01:30:22.580 --> 01:30:26.220 but none of that would make it look like it belongs in the vanilla world. 01:30:26.220 --> 01:30:31.780 To understand why, I want to talk about the evolution of World of Warcraft's art style. 01:30:31.780 --> 01:30:34.500 To start, I want to ask you another question. 01:30:34.500 --> 01:30:38.260 Do these look like the same art style to you? 01:30:38.260 --> 01:30:40.900 Because they are supposedly the same creature. 01:30:40.900 --> 01:30:42.300 No, right? 01:30:42.300 --> 01:30:44.300 One is demonstrably different. 01:30:44.300 --> 01:30:47.420 Less gritty, more silly, if anything. 01:30:47.420 --> 01:30:50.420 Even if you think they are the same art style- 01:30:50.420 --> 01:30:52.420 Whimsical, even. 01:30:52.420 --> 01:30:58.300 Well, and you approach this conversation subjectively, the visual differences themselves are measurable, 01:30:58.300 --> 01:30:59.300 right? 01:30:59.300 --> 01:31:01.180 We can all acknowledge they exist. 01:31:01.180 --> 01:31:05.500 For those unaware, World of Warcraft has gone through two distinct stylistic shifts 01:31:05.500 --> 01:31:06.500 over the years. 01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:11.300 Specifically, the release of the Warlord's Adrenal Expansion brought with it a remaster 01:31:11.300 --> 01:31:16.780 of the original races, and a pivot to a different type of aesthetic for the new continents in 01:31:16.780 --> 01:31:17.780 the overworld. 01:31:17.780 --> 01:31:22.620 World of Warcraft, and in turn Warcraft itself, was always cartoony. 01:31:22.620 --> 01:31:26.100 But cartoony doesn't evoke a single art style. 01:31:26.100 --> 01:31:30.420 Cartoons as a medium have hundreds of thousands of different styles. 01:31:30.420 --> 01:31:35.560 You can't tell me that Adventure Time looks stylistically similar to SpongeBob and neither 01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:39.580 look remotely similar to the, I don't know, original Scooby-Doo. 01:31:39.580 --> 01:31:46.040 The evolution from the original Warcraft aesthetic to another was certainly jarring. 01:31:46.040 --> 01:31:47.840 World of Warcraft was made using- 01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:56.060 I was very vocal when Warlords of Draenor came out saying like, the new models, I don't 01:31:56.060 --> 01:32:00.400 like them, I don't like how they move, I don't like how they look, it's not the wow art style, 01:32:00.400 --> 01:32:02.320 And you know what people told me? 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:05.340 Xar shut up. 01:32:05.340 --> 01:32:08.360 It's just because they're new, you'll get used to them. 01:32:11.480 --> 01:32:15.640 Now, this art style has been in the game longer 01:32:15.640 --> 01:32:17.360 than this one on retail. 01:32:18.540 --> 01:32:20.180 It's been over 12 years. 01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:23.880 And yes, I'm saying the same thing. 01:32:25.920 --> 01:32:27.600 It is stylistically different. 01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:29.880 I said it from the start. 01:32:30.400 --> 01:32:31.400 There we go. 01:32:31.400 --> 01:32:38.680 In a slant of the Warcraft 3 art style, flat, harsh geometry, polygonally simple assets 01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:41.920 given character by painted textures. 01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:47.120 Vanilla WoW's visual language was a product of technical limitations, which shouldn't 01:32:47.120 --> 01:32:52.600 be a surprise since the majority of art styles were established from some kind of constraint. 01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:56.840 If you watch anime, for example, you might notice a trend of using action lines as a 01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:02.520 simple way to indicate motion in an otherwise stale or panning frame. This is a cost cutting 01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:09.000 measure, a way to save time. Motion in universe is implied from the lines, yet no actual animation 01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:14.160 of the character or object is technically necessary. Action lines have become a standard 01:33:14.160 --> 01:33:19.520 visual language and art choice, yet were born solely from time constraints in the production 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:24.000 process. And of course, staying faithful to the original frames that they are adapting 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:29.440 from the manga if that's what's happening. Point is constraints breed creativity. Back 01:33:29.440 --> 01:33:33.760 in a while, there was a limit to the amount of detail they could include in any single 01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:39.040 asset. If you look closely at a building, tree or character, you'll notice that the 01:33:39.040 --> 01:33:46.360 underlying object is crude, basically a handful of angular planes. A wooden beam is a rectangular 01:33:46.360 --> 01:33:51.840 prism with nothing but a four-sided texture wrap defining it. The textures themselves 01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:57.920 do the heavy lifting on otherwise simple silhouettes. It's what I call a painted on style, 01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:03.840 low geometric complexity, but high illustrative complexity. The art of the texture evokes 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:09.440 something deeper than the simple shape of the object and causes your imagination to interpret 01:34:09.440 --> 01:34:14.960 the image into something greater than the sum of its parts. That's what gives low poly, low res 01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:21.280 art styles so much of their charm and character. It's why there's an entire trend in indie games 01:34:21.280 --> 01:34:27.920 that is all about capturing the nostalgic aesthetics of the PSX era. Lunacid, pseudo regalia, 01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:34.640 atlas, gloomwood, dread delusion, the list goes on and on. There is a distinct value in obfuscating 01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:40.560 detail and letting someone's imagination fill in the blanks. It can sometimes feel even more 01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:47.440 evocative than just some Unreal Engine 5 hyper realism. That is actually one of the defining 01:34:47.440 --> 01:34:49.460 and features of the new rendering tech 01:34:49.460 --> 01:34:51.020 we're seeing in forever. 01:34:51.020 --> 01:34:55.420 The fog, the lighting, it takes details away. 01:34:55.420 --> 01:34:56.740 You can't see as much. 01:34:56.740 --> 01:34:59.140 It's not just increasing the draw distance. 01:34:59.140 --> 01:35:00.340 It's shrouding it. 01:35:00.340 --> 01:35:01.860 It's giving it depth. 01:35:01.860 --> 01:35:04.700 In other words, making it more immersive. 01:35:04.700 --> 01:35:07.220 The original art style of World of Warcraft 01:35:07.220 --> 01:35:10.540 is likely, to me, one of the most beautiful, 01:35:10.540 --> 01:35:12.780 timeless, and special aesthetics 01:35:12.780 --> 01:35:14.860 ever put into a video game. 01:35:14.860 --> 01:35:19.820 And many of us also feel that classics art style is timeless as I said before and deserves 01:35:19.820 --> 01:35:20.940 to be preserved. 01:35:20.940 --> 01:35:27.140 It means so much and it is responsible for creating connections with a world that still 01:35:27.140 --> 01:35:30.540 remains strong more than two decades later. 01:35:30.540 --> 01:35:34.620 There are still games trying to capture this style. 01:35:34.620 --> 01:35:38.660 I cannot express just how important that is. 01:35:38.660 --> 01:35:44.260 I don't want it to be locked away like a forgotten collectible in some old ignored, 01:35:44.260 --> 01:35:50.380 updated era server. It is as important, if not more important, than the current games 01:35:50.380 --> 01:35:56.180 aesthetic. It deserves to be added to, to be appreciated by an entirely new generation 01:35:56.180 --> 01:35:57.180 of people. 01:35:57.180 --> 01:35:58.180 Yep, yep. 01:35:58.180 --> 01:36:01.380 Not historically because there's some corporate fear that if the models don't have enough 01:36:01.380 --> 01:36:06.500 polygons, someone who would never have enjoyed the game wouldn't subscribe for a month. It's 01:36:06.500 --> 01:36:11.220 not worth killing this style or relegating it to the background when it still has so 01:36:11.220 --> 01:36:12.780 much left to give. 01:36:12.780 --> 01:36:18.900 It's not like any other aspect of the world is being updated alongside these new assets 01:36:18.900 --> 01:36:19.900 either. 01:36:19.900 --> 01:36:26.500 So I'm not even sure what demographic of people would be like, ah, yes. 01:36:26.500 --> 01:36:30.660 Someone says in all caps, how is cohesion subjective? 01:36:30.660 --> 01:36:31.660 LMAO. 01:36:31.660 --> 01:36:33.540 You're right, man. 01:36:33.540 --> 01:36:35.780 You are right. 01:36:35.780 --> 01:36:36.780 The people. 01:36:36.780 --> 01:36:37.780 Yeah. 01:36:37.780 --> 01:36:42.700 I mean, he's saying his opinion that he likes this stuff, but that's not the major topic. 01:36:42.700 --> 01:36:44.980 unless you've tuned in in the last 30 seconds. 01:36:44.980 --> 01:36:50.980 The video topic is, since the world already encapsulates this 01:36:50.980 --> 01:36:56.080 style of art and since Blizzard has went on stage 01:36:56.080 --> 01:36:58.460 and pulled us that they're trying to capture 01:36:58.460 --> 01:37:00.900 the essence of this art, then putting an art that 01:37:00.900 --> 01:37:03.580 doesn't match it, whether or not you 01:37:03.580 --> 01:37:07.660 have a preference for one or the other, doesn't matter, 01:37:07.660 --> 01:37:08.620 that's not the point. 01:37:08.620 --> 01:37:11.540 The point is it should all be cohesive 01:37:11.540 --> 01:37:15.180 to the world that they chose to build. 01:37:15.180 --> 01:37:18.260 That's the point, right? 01:37:18.260 --> 01:37:21.300 The opinion on which one you like better is not the point. 01:37:23.060 --> 01:37:24.580 I don't know why this needs to be said, 01:37:24.580 --> 01:37:26.660 but let's keep playing the video. 01:37:26.660 --> 01:37:30.020 So 1% of the game now looks very different. 01:37:30.020 --> 01:37:32.580 Finally, I can enjoy it. 01:37:32.580 --> 01:37:36.540 On the other hand, even 1% of the game looking out of place 01:37:36.540 --> 01:37:40.700 can break the tightrope of immersion every game walks. 01:37:40.700 --> 01:37:44.340 You can think this style looks dated old, whatever, 01:37:44.340 --> 01:37:47.660 but it's timeless, and I don't wanna lose it again. 01:37:47.660 --> 01:37:50.980 In 2014, during the rollout of the model updates 01:37:50.980 --> 01:37:53.720 to the original races, the senior art director, 01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:56.820 Chris Robinson outlined how they are doing away with, 01:37:56.820 --> 01:38:00.260 for example, painting expressions onto a character face 01:38:00.260 --> 01:38:03.140 and started to give them actual lips, teeth, 01:38:03.140 --> 01:38:05.460 and articulated facial geometry. 01:38:05.460 --> 01:38:08.680 Now they can be super expressive, 01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:11.040 and from here, the rest is history. 01:38:11.040 --> 01:38:12.760 Expression has become the default 01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:15.280 of the quote-unquote modern wow aesthetic. 01:38:15.280 --> 01:38:16.120 Looking good. 01:38:16.120 --> 01:38:18.640 Everything needs to express itself immediately 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:19.520 and clearly. 01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:22.520 Interpretation is thrown out the window. 01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:26.760 2014 and onward is a distinct inflection point for the game. 01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:30.160 Now, models could use five times more polygons, 01:38:30.160 --> 01:38:34.080 resolution doubled, and rigging became far more complex. 01:38:34.080 --> 01:38:36.360 Every animation started to be reworked 01:38:36.360 --> 01:38:39.760 into something expressive rather than interpretative. 01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:43.080 So if you ever wonder why Dwarves became so bouncy 01:38:43.080 --> 01:38:45.480 as the forever developers said at BlizzCon, 01:38:45.480 --> 01:38:48.980 this is why the bouncy dwarves are a symptom 01:38:48.980 --> 01:38:51.480 of the greater aesthetic change. 01:38:51.480 --> 01:38:54.920 I am so proud to announce that we have gone back 01:38:54.920 --> 01:38:59.040 and painstakingly restored the classic animations 01:38:59.040 --> 01:39:03.880 you know and love across the game's HD character models. 01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:05.480 No bouncy dwarves in the skin. 01:39:06.360 --> 01:39:12.560 Sure, you can make them less bouncy, less overtly expressive, but everything else remains 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:16.400 equally antithetical to the style of the original world. 01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:19.700 After all, that's what happened in 2014. 01:39:19.700 --> 01:39:23.480 The artistic toolbox evolved into a different art style. 01:39:23.480 --> 01:39:27.080 The visual language became softer, less abrasive. 01:39:27.080 --> 01:39:32.240 The addition of five times more polygons has a very real chance of doing that. 01:39:32.240 --> 01:39:36.480 After all, polygons give you the option to smooth objects out. 01:39:36.480 --> 01:39:40.040 They turn a jagged thing into a not-so-jagged thing. 01:39:40.040 --> 01:39:47.280 I call it softened exaggeration, beveled corners, bulbous rocks, and complex geometry on armor, 01:39:47.280 --> 01:39:49.680 weapons, creatures, and so on. 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:56.120 The style is… well, my buddy and fellow video essayist idol calls it Pudgy. 01:39:56.120 --> 01:40:00.960 Things are just bulky and cartoony in a distinctly different capacity. 01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:06.320 them side-by-side is like comparing My Little Pony with Ren and Stimpy. The point is Blizzard 01:40:06.320 --> 01:40:11.960 now has access to a larger toolbox and consciously chose to alter the way assets are created 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:15.560 and represented in the game. They can make vanilla assets. 01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:21.000 So in one of the interviews, I always want to give the artist credit here, right? Because 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:24.320 I agree with what he's saying, but in one of the interviews with, I think it was the 01:40:24.320 --> 01:40:27.200 the Q&A with Josh Greenfield. 01:40:29.240 --> 01:40:32.440 He was talking about like the tools that were used 01:40:32.440 --> 01:40:37.120 to create what you're seeing on the right here 01:40:37.120 --> 01:40:39.560 and like, you know, early 2000s or whatever 01:40:40.820 --> 01:40:43.320 are literally not available anymore. 01:40:43.320 --> 01:40:46.320 Like the software used doesn't exist anymore. 01:40:46.320 --> 01:40:48.640 Like it's not, it wasn't updated, 01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:51.240 it wasn't maintained, they don't have those tools. 01:40:51.240 --> 01:40:52.920 So now what they're trying to do is like, 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:56.320 How do we make with our modern tech 01:40:56.320 --> 01:40:59.560 something that looks like it was made in 2000s? 01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.280 And I hope they can do it, right? 01:41:02.280 --> 01:41:03.560 I'm sure they can. 01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:05.000 Do we have any artists in here? 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.520 Can you, like this is, it's gotta be possible 01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:10.360 but it's probably a learning curve, right? 01:41:10.360 --> 01:41:12.320 Assuming they're using the retail art team. 01:41:12.320 --> 01:41:14.560 Like there's one World of Warcraft art team. 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:18.840 Like we're gonna have to figure this thing out, right? 01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:20.040 We're gonna have to figure it out 01:41:20.040 --> 01:41:25.040 is it's like, we gotta dial back all of these crazy tools 01:41:25.420 --> 01:41:27.620 and tech to just make it look like simple 01:41:27.620 --> 01:41:29.580 and like it fits in the world, 01:41:29.580 --> 01:41:31.620 not that it's completely just out of place. 01:41:31.620 --> 01:41:34.060 Despite it looking really good, let me add that part. 01:41:34.060 --> 01:41:35.160 Like it looks really great, 01:41:35.160 --> 01:41:36.940 but it just, you know, it needs to be cohesive. 01:41:36.940 --> 01:41:39.620 So I hope they can figure it out. 01:41:39.620 --> 01:41:40.460 I really do. 01:41:40.460 --> 01:41:42.500 This is probably the biggest problem. 01:41:42.500 --> 01:41:45.080 And by the way, let me just say this. 01:41:45.080 --> 01:41:48.580 If this is the biggest problem Plastic Forever has, 01:41:48.580 --> 01:41:56.020 we are in a great spot. If the thing that we're nitpicking is literally art 01:41:56.020 --> 01:42:02.940 cohesion, then that is pretty good. That is pretty good. But it doesn't mean we 01:42:02.940 --> 01:42:06.700 shouldn't give the feedback, right? In a positive and constructive way, of course, 01:42:06.700 --> 01:42:12.700 but that's pretty good. That's using their new tools. They just chose not to. 01:42:12.700 --> 01:42:18.540 Instead, geometry began to communicate the form of the item, a complete reversal 01:42:18.540 --> 01:42:23.900 of vanilla's style where texture communicated the form of the item. I don't think this is 01:42:23.900 --> 01:42:31.020 subjective territory. These are not the same style. You can like both or like just one, 01:42:31.020 --> 01:42:35.180 but to say they are the same is not true. Codifying a new- 01:42:35.180 --> 01:42:36.700 Thank you for saying it, theory-wise. 01:42:36.700 --> 01:42:42.940 ...our team has led to the game not really feeling like Warcraft to me. Don't get me wrong, 01:42:42.940 --> 01:42:47.420 it looks good. I like the visuals of Retail WoW. I think they are pretty, 01:42:47.420 --> 01:42:51.180 but Warcraft, they are not and fit into the vanilla. 01:42:51.180 --> 01:42:53.340 Thank you for saying that. 01:42:53.340 --> 01:42:55.020 Yeah, I've been saying that for years. 01:42:56.380 --> 01:42:57.340 Very good art. 01:42:57.340 --> 01:43:00.220 Well done. Warcraft, no, not so much. 01:43:00.220 --> 01:43:02.060 Exactly how I feel. 01:43:03.100 --> 01:43:04.140 Did they look good? 01:43:04.140 --> 01:43:04.460 Yeah. 01:43:05.580 --> 01:43:07.260 It's not really Warcraft anymore, 01:43:07.260 --> 01:43:08.300 but they're awesome. 01:43:09.420 --> 01:43:10.300 Absolutely. 01:43:10.300 --> 01:43:13.340 World, they would not and have not, 01:43:13.340 --> 01:43:16.060 which is why the evolution of the character models 01:43:16.060 --> 01:43:22.380 also came with an evolution of the world itself. Every new zone inhabits the very same 01:43:22.380 --> 01:43:27.580 expressive softness that the characters do. I want to emphasize that when I say softness, 01:43:27.580 --> 01:43:32.940 I do not mean in tone, necessarily. What I'm talking about is a literal softness, 01:43:32.940 --> 01:43:38.300 to the visual of any asset thanks to the way it is modeled, textured, and shaded. 01:43:38.300 --> 01:43:43.660 Let's summarize the differences then. The original vanilla aesthetic had angular silhouettes as 01:43:43.660 --> 01:43:46.400 as opposed to rounded, curved silhouettes, 01:43:46.400 --> 01:43:49.500 low poly geometry as opposed to dense geometry, 01:43:49.500 --> 01:43:52.260 an emphasis on texture communicating the form 01:43:52.260 --> 01:43:54.820 rather than the geometry communicating the form, 01:43:54.820 --> 01:43:57.060 a harsh, painted surface detail 01:43:57.060 --> 01:43:59.820 rather than a cleaner, muted surface detail, 01:43:59.820 --> 01:44:02.380 rigid animations as opposed to expressive, 01:44:02.380 --> 01:44:05.700 deformation-driven animations, a lack of beveled edges, 01:44:05.700 --> 01:44:08.820 and a specifically illustrative quality to its assets 01:44:08.820 --> 01:44:11.700 rather than an animation-like quality to them. 01:44:11.700 --> 01:44:18.900 art style objectively is different. So why are these distinctly retail wow coded assets 01:44:18.900 --> 01:44:24.420 populating wow forever? Half the creatures in the new Skyborne zone are not vanilla. 01:44:24.420 --> 01:44:28.900 To clarify one final time, when I say not vanilla, I do not mean that they did not 01:44:28.900 --> 01:44:32.980 exist in vanilla. I mean they could not have it. Someone in the chat, I think, 01:44:33.540 --> 01:44:38.020 I think just said it. The current art team literally doesn't know how to make art like 01:44:38.020 --> 01:44:39.300 like that anymore? 01:44:39.300 --> 01:44:41.020 I think that's literally true. 01:44:41.020 --> 01:44:43.420 It's like, and this is what Josh was saying, 01:44:43.420 --> 01:44:47.060 like assuming, I think he said this is a retail art team. 01:44:47.060 --> 01:44:48.700 So literally like the retail art team, 01:44:48.700 --> 01:44:51.100 they got a new job on their desk and they're like, 01:44:51.100 --> 01:44:54.260 wait, this is just, what? 01:44:54.260 --> 01:44:55.500 Like I think it's just like, 01:44:55.500 --> 01:44:58.620 it's gonna be this massive learning curve of like, 01:44:58.620 --> 01:45:00.780 okay, or hiring some new people. 01:45:00.780 --> 01:45:01.900 Maybe that's the answer. 01:45:01.900 --> 01:45:05.300 I don't know, but it's very different, you know? 01:45:05.300 --> 01:45:06.620 Existed in vanilla. 01:45:06.620 --> 01:45:12.100 you're probably right. An important difference. I want new models, new armors, new weapons, 01:45:12.100 --> 01:45:19.140 new ways to express and showcase an art style I love dearly. These do not express that art 01:45:19.140 --> 01:45:24.220 style. Meanwhile, they would not look out of place in retail. Help. Some of them just 01:45:24.220 --> 01:45:30.060 seem to be backports of retail. That's true. If you put this in retail, no one would blink 01:45:30.060 --> 01:45:35.340 an eye. Maybe that's the litmus test. Right. Would this fit in retail? If the answer is 01:45:35.340 --> 01:45:39.500 and it's like, okay, well, then you should have a retail asset, like, then, like, right? Like, 01:45:39.500 --> 01:45:42.460 because they're very different. That's a very, very fair point. 01:45:42.460 --> 01:45:46.460 Hotels, except with their texture resolution turned to, like, medium. 01:45:46.460 --> 01:45:50.140 That's an important distinction, because creating stylistically cohesive, 01:45:50.140 --> 01:45:55.980 believable assets is crucial to retaining art direction. Immersion. Even if the world looks 01:45:55.980 --> 01:46:00.380 outdated to you, even if in a vacuum you find these things to be cute and pretty, 01:46:00.380 --> 01:46:04.540 in the context of the world itself, they stick out like a sore thumb. 01:46:04.540 --> 01:46:10.460 Yep. Cohesion is key. Bear with me as we take like a momentary detour. Some of the best modern 01:46:10.460 --> 01:46:16.780 horror games aren't the most visually advanced. The only way a horror game becomes scary is when 01:46:16.780 --> 01:46:23.500 you are adequately immersed in it. So games like Lost in Vivo, Mouthwashing, Iron Lung, and Signalis 01:46:23.500 --> 01:46:29.500 manage to establish believability through low-poly or retro aesthetics just as well as the most 01:46:29.500 --> 01:46:31.500 I get really scared of games like this, guys. 01:46:31.500 --> 01:46:32.500 You can think of. 01:46:32.500 --> 01:46:33.500 In WoW Forever, 01:46:33.500 --> 01:46:34.500 Okay, we're good. 01:46:34.500 --> 01:46:40.180 Bizarre out of place assets prevent immersion more so than they add appeal to players who 01:46:40.180 --> 01:46:46.200 like playing all the way zoomed in to appreciate the higher fidelity of them or something. 01:46:46.200 --> 01:46:50.760 It's almost as if they are specifically made to be back ported. 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:55.440 A way for retail WoW to use the exact same ones if need be. 01:46:55.440 --> 01:46:57.720 And that's exactly what happened. 01:46:57.720 --> 01:47:03.320 You can just lower the texture resolution, and yeah, these are identical. 01:47:03.320 --> 01:47:05.400 Here's the thing, you don't have to care. 01:47:05.400 --> 01:47:08.520 You don't have to find any of this a real problem. 01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:13.280 If the only reason you play classic is because you like the simpler rotations, the longer 01:47:13.280 --> 01:47:16.280 leveling experience, or whatever else, then awesome. 01:47:16.280 --> 01:47:22.000 But I think if the developers themselves highlight how they want the world to be the main character 01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:27.680 again, then it should be fair to point out that visual cohesion is extremely important 01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:35.820 to the world and right now it feels like a mess in some areas thanks to these assets by not looking like they 01:47:36.320 --> 01:47:41.920 Think that's a very fair thing to say you don't have to care about this 01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:45.080 But it is still highly relevant 01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:48.820 Because Blizzard has come out and said it is to them 01:47:48.820 --> 01:47:55.160 And there's a lot of people that do so if this isn't your cup of tea, that's okay 01:47:55.160 --> 01:48:00.160 Hey, cool, but it's very relevant still, very relevant. 01:48:00.200 --> 01:48:02.360 This in the same version of the world 01:48:02.360 --> 01:48:04.240 that the game is built to resemble, 01:48:04.240 --> 01:48:05.960 they end up not feeling like they belong 01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:09.600 in any version of the world in a strange way. 01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:12.080 They don't fit the new zones added in forever, 01:48:12.080 --> 01:48:15.000 in the same way they don't fit the old zones in vanilla. 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:18.840 Why have two entire panels about staying true to vanilla 01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:22.320 if none of the new assets stay true to vanilla? 01:48:22.320 --> 01:48:26.160 isn't this setting yourself up for immediate criticism? 01:48:26.160 --> 01:48:28.640 I think that the aesthetics of classic wow 01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:32.400 or vanilla wow are as important as the gameplay. 01:48:32.400 --> 01:48:35.520 They are paramount to the vibe and authenticity 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.080 of a classic plus. 01:48:37.080 --> 01:48:40.280 At no point does classic plus ever mean 01:48:40.280 --> 01:48:41.400 that we should start. 01:48:41.400 --> 01:48:44.200 I'm shocked at 20 minutes into the video 01:48:44.200 --> 01:48:47.040 because like I think this is great, this is spot on 01:48:47.040 --> 01:48:49.000 but I'm shocked he hasn't mentioned 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.640 that they're using their retail unit frame 01:48:51.640 --> 01:48:54.600 when the whole video is about like art style, right? 01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:57.960 And art direction and identity and cohesion. 01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:00.200 Cause it's like bringing this in to me 01:49:00.200 --> 01:49:02.640 is just as much of a sin, right? 01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:05.800 At least the action bars are classified, right? 01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:08.080 Like they look, the action bars look really nice. 01:49:08.080 --> 01:49:10.520 And the mini map is its own unique mini map 01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:12.520 for this game mode alone. 01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:14.240 Awesome, right? 01:49:14.240 --> 01:49:17.880 But the unit frame and the CASPAR being all like 01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:22.880 A straight copy from Retail is a very big red flag. 01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:23.880 Oh, he did earlier? 01:49:23.880 --> 01:49:25.320 Oh, did I miss that? 01:49:25.320 --> 01:49:26.360 Oh, I must have. 01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:27.400 I'm almost like gonna say, 01:49:27.400 --> 01:49:28.800 I'm shocked he hasn't brought it up, 01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:30.200 but everyone's saying he did. 01:49:30.200 --> 01:49:33.200 But yeah, that is like very, 01:49:33.200 --> 01:49:35.960 I mean, just as big of a red flag, right? 01:49:37.680 --> 01:49:39.760 Cutting retail assets into the game 01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:42.120 or diminish its artistic cohesion. 01:49:42.120 --> 01:49:44.560 That's low effort content creation, 01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:47.280 not artistically sound art direction. 01:49:47.280 --> 01:49:50.840 What's even stranger is that the new zones added in forever 01:49:50.840 --> 01:49:54.760 do look like vanilla zones, augmented by the same rendering 01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:56.160 tech the rest of the game is. 01:49:56.160 --> 01:49:57.360 Again, I love it. 01:49:57.360 --> 01:50:00.160 You cannot tell me that the Riverglades don't look 01:50:00.160 --> 01:50:02.720 like they could have been released in 2004. 01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:04.560 I haven't been to the Riverglades yet. 01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:06.720 It's on my to-do list today. 01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:11.840 But from what I've seen, yes, they crushed it, right? 01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:13.080 They crushed it. 01:50:13.080 --> 01:50:15.240 Like it looks awesome. 01:50:15.240 --> 01:50:18.040 So, like, there we go, right? 01:50:18.040 --> 01:50:20.480 It looks like it could have always been there, 01:50:20.480 --> 01:50:21.400 which is the goal. 01:50:21.400 --> 01:50:22.920 Yeah, they've said that's the goal. 01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:24.440 Like, that's what we're all after, right? 01:50:24.440 --> 01:50:26.040 So, so cool, right? 01:50:26.040 --> 01:50:27.040 It's possible. 01:50:27.040 --> 01:50:28.880 They are so faithful. 01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:31.920 The environment team absolutely killed it. 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:34.360 S tier, no notes, again. 01:50:34.360 --> 01:50:37.280 But there seems to be some kind of issue 01:50:37.280 --> 01:50:39.360 with every other art team. 01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:42.320 Not of talent, but of art direction. 01:50:42.320 --> 01:50:44.160 I want to dive further into this. 01:50:44.160 --> 01:50:51.460 There is nothing but time stopping Blizzard from creating assets that remain faithful to the original game. 01:50:51.460 --> 01:50:56.700 Nothing. I have seen so much cope and excuses defending these decisions, 01:50:56.700 --> 01:51:03.200 highlighting how they simply cannot do something that they did on older technology 20 years ago. 01:51:03.200 --> 01:51:09.500 Bullshit. Bullshit. Old aesthetics are not reliant on old technology. 01:51:09.500 --> 01:51:12.140 That's why we have the PSX era indie scene. 01:51:12.140 --> 01:51:13.580 Hell, just look at Valheim. 01:51:13.580 --> 01:51:17.620 It combines retro assets with modern rendering techniques 01:51:17.620 --> 01:51:20.060 in the very same way that Forever does 01:51:20.060 --> 01:51:24.160 and managed to sell millions upon millions of copies. 01:51:24.160 --> 01:51:27.620 Somehow, not having super high detail assets 01:51:27.620 --> 01:51:30.840 didn't kill the game or make it not approachable. 01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:33.180 We can even look at games like Octopath Traveler, 01:51:33.180 --> 01:51:36.180 which blend pixel art with unique lighting, water, 01:51:36.180 --> 01:51:39.240 and shading effects that could only exist today. 01:51:39.240 --> 01:51:45.720 This is not a new thing. There is nothing stopping Blizzard other than a strict development pipeline 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:52.040 and directions from, I'm assuming, upper management. Directions that I think are more focused on speed 01:51:52.040 --> 01:51:59.080 and monetization than actual art. Because if we were to try and inhabit the style that forever is 01:51:59.080 --> 01:52:05.000 supposedly in veneration of, a lot of the art team would likely need to be taught that style. It would 01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:11.480 require new onboarding. It would require the creation of bespoke new pipelines that only 01:52:11.480 --> 01:52:16.600 apply to forever. I really don't want to start yapping about private servers because I never 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:20.680 played them. They never interested me much and I'm not here to defend ripping a company's 01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:25.080 intellectual property for your own profit. However, I was sent some originally someone 01:52:25.080 --> 01:52:30.600 says that there we go. Wow team just to look at and honestly, they look far more in line 01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:32.400 and with vanilla's aesthetics. 01:52:32.400 --> 01:52:33.480 Can I kind of? 01:52:33.480 --> 01:52:35.200 Okay, dang it, I hate to agree. 01:52:35.200 --> 01:52:37.160 I didn't play either, and I don't want to defend it, 01:52:37.160 --> 01:52:39.960 but yeah, yeah, true, okay, true. 01:52:39.960 --> 01:52:41.720 You tell, they're not identical? 01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:44.400 Of course, but I rather see an effort 01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:48.280 than see a multi-billion dollar company give up and say, 01:52:48.280 --> 01:52:51.080 no, retail assets it is. 01:52:51.080 --> 01:52:53.280 Which is strange, because they essentially 01:52:53.280 --> 01:52:55.960 say the opposite at BlizzCon. 01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:58.400 Many of us also feel that classics art style 01:52:58.400 --> 01:53:00.400 is timeless, as I said before. 01:53:00.400 --> 01:53:02.160 and deserves to be preserved. 01:53:02.160 --> 01:53:05.440 Each panel was a love letter to Vanilla. 01:53:05.440 --> 01:53:07.080 So what are we doing here? 01:53:07.080 --> 01:53:08.980 That's the part that frustrates me. 01:53:08.980 --> 01:53:12.880 This game is billed as a separate entity to retell wow, 01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:16.800 yet it is entirely begotten to it, shackled to it. 01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:18.780 It needs to use its infrastructure, 01:53:18.780 --> 01:53:22.620 its asset development pipeline, it's everything really. 01:53:22.620 --> 01:53:24.920 So what's so different about it? 01:53:24.920 --> 01:53:27.400 Even our character models are just the new ones, 01:53:27.400 --> 01:53:29.680 albeit with some minor animation tweaks. 01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:33.200 The UI is borderline identical. 01:53:33.200 --> 01:53:36.600 Every new asset is literally identical stylistically. 01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:39.160 Is this not cause for any concern? 01:53:39.160 --> 01:53:43.920 Do we really care this little about the art style that defined a genre? 01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:48.360 I'm not trying to hate on retail here, but shouldn't these two games be different in 01:53:48.360 --> 01:53:53.360 more ways than just the leveling is longer and the rotations are simpler? 01:53:53.360 --> 01:53:58.960 Shouldn't you be able to look at a screenshot of forever and go, that's forever a different 01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:05.200 version of the game, much like you could classic or vanilla era or whatever else. I think so. 01:54:05.200 --> 01:54:11.280 I think that does more to grow the IP by broadening the scope. Just to be totally honest with you, 01:54:11.280 --> 01:54:18.240 I never expected to have this comment. I got a pause real quick. We got a $50 donation from Aiden 01:54:19.120 --> 01:54:23.920 and he says, Zahra, I love that you care deeply about the art aspect of the game. Your voice is 01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:28.880 so important for those of us that really care about this. Thank you. I'm trying my best, Aiden. 01:54:29.440 --> 01:54:35.280 I'm trying my best, brother. Thank you for the big support. It is deeply important to me, like it 01:54:35.280 --> 01:54:41.920 is to theory-wise. And like I said, if this doesn't matter to you, that's okay too. But I think there 01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:47.920 is, I actually don't know the split. If I had to guess, it would be like 55, 45. Like it's not 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:49.720 Not everyone, not everyone cares about this, 01:54:49.720 --> 01:54:52.520 but it is deeply important, right? 01:54:52.520 --> 01:54:54.560 To quite a bit of people, right? 01:54:54.560 --> 01:54:59.240 So it's my biggest complaint, right? 01:54:59.240 --> 01:55:02.280 And it's really my only complaint in a sense. 01:55:02.280 --> 01:55:05.640 It's like the game owns, right? 01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:06.880 And like I said before, 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:09.500 if this is really our biggest complaint, 01:55:10.560 --> 01:55:12.080 we're in a great spot, right? 01:55:12.080 --> 01:55:14.320 Seriously, if we're complaining about this over anything, 01:55:14.320 --> 01:55:15.360 like this is awesome, 01:55:15.360 --> 01:55:16.920 if this is what we're complaining about. 01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:20.080 So this is awesome, but it's legitimate 01:55:20.080 --> 01:55:22.000 and it should be raised and it should be, 01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:25.440 like absolutely should be raised as a concern, right? 01:55:25.440 --> 01:55:26.280 Versaition. 01:55:26.280 --> 01:55:29.240 Not in my wildest dreams that I ever think 01:55:29.240 --> 01:55:32.960 that Classic Plus will start using retail wow's art style 01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:34.520 and that I'd need to make a video 01:55:34.520 --> 01:55:37.160 defending the aesthetics of Warcraft. 01:55:37.160 --> 01:55:38.920 Hearing about how a bunch of streamers 01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:41.360 needed to twist Blizzard's arm behind the scenes 01:55:41.360 --> 01:55:43.720 to add fucking classic models 01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:47.440 to a game Blizzard themselves called Classic Plus 01:55:47.440 --> 01:55:49.580 is just wild to me. 01:55:49.580 --> 01:55:51.900 In a really unintentional way, 01:55:51.900 --> 01:55:55.200 it makes me question the authenticity of the panels 01:55:55.200 --> 01:55:57.120 all about the vanilla aesthetic. 01:55:57.120 --> 01:56:01.020 This whole thing is a bigger problem than some people let on. 01:56:01.020 --> 01:56:04.320 It's a small snowball that is just starting to roll down 01:56:04.320 --> 01:56:06.760 a very, very large hill. 01:56:06.760 --> 01:56:10.060 If there was ever a time to stop it, it'd be now. 01:56:10.060 --> 01:56:12.700 We can try and make our voices be heard 01:56:12.700 --> 01:56:15.460 before it irreparably becomes the new standard. 01:56:15.460 --> 01:56:19.020 Because if you, like me, do care about visual cohesion 01:56:19.020 --> 01:56:21.580 in the world, it will get worse. 01:56:21.580 --> 01:56:23.260 This isn't an assumption. 01:56:23.260 --> 01:56:25.420 We have data-mined assets. 01:56:25.420 --> 01:56:28.020 We know what's going to be added. 01:56:28.020 --> 01:56:31.180 And none of it is in the classic art style. 01:56:31.180 --> 01:56:33.060 I'm about to quickly talk about those. 01:56:33.060 --> 01:56:35.700 I think like bringing it up early and saying like, 01:56:35.700 --> 01:56:39.180 look, this is really important and raising it as a concern 01:56:39.180 --> 01:56:42.980 is valid as heck. 01:56:42.980 --> 01:56:45.380 It's like you don't want to not say something 01:56:45.380 --> 01:56:48.580 and then they don't know and then it's ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. 01:56:48.580 --> 01:56:49.420 Right? 01:56:49.420 --> 01:56:52.060 Like they should be flooded with like, 01:56:52.060 --> 01:56:55.540 like very loudly and politely and positively 01:56:55.540 --> 01:56:59.060 in a constructive manner that like cohesion is important 01:56:59.060 --> 01:57:00.820 and it should look like the old world. 01:57:00.820 --> 01:57:02.900 I agree, I agree. 01:57:02.900 --> 01:57:04.660 So if you want to avoid spoilers 01:57:04.660 --> 01:57:07.180 of what upcoming creatures and items look like, 01:57:07.180 --> 01:57:08.780 skip to the next section. 01:57:08.780 --> 01:57:11.900 The datamined assets triple or even quadruple down 01:57:11.900 --> 01:57:13.660 on all of these issues. 01:57:13.660 --> 01:57:17.220 Every single one of them, except weirdly this furbog, 01:57:17.220 --> 01:57:19.440 I have no idea which artist created this guy, 01:57:19.440 --> 01:57:20.980 but like kudos to you for making 01:57:20.980 --> 01:57:23.340 the single new creature asset that actually 01:57:23.340 --> 01:57:25.220 looks like it belongs to vanilla. 01:57:25.220 --> 01:57:26.980 Wait, so it is possible. 01:57:26.980 --> 01:57:29.340 They can do it, there's proof right here. 01:57:29.340 --> 01:57:30.740 Maybe he used old shoulders. 01:57:30.740 --> 01:57:33.500 Maybe he put the old shoulders on a, 01:57:33.500 --> 01:57:35.780 wait, maybe it is an old furbog and old shoulders 01:57:35.780 --> 01:57:39.460 and then he just put on like the feather or something. 01:57:39.460 --> 01:57:40.300 I don't know. 01:57:40.300 --> 01:57:43.580 But like I impossible, like if Turtle Wow did it, 01:57:43.580 --> 01:57:46.640 this guy did it kinda, you know, like it's possible. 01:57:47.620 --> 01:57:50.260 But besides that, every single thing, 01:57:50.260 --> 01:57:52.020 every one of them is retail. 01:57:52.020 --> 01:57:54.700 It's retail all the way down. 01:57:54.700 --> 01:57:58.220 Every single new weapon, new piece of armor, new creature, 01:57:58.220 --> 01:58:02.060 it is just a retail asset with a retail art style. 01:58:02.060 --> 01:58:05.620 For example, let's look at this root dragon thing. 01:58:05.620 --> 01:58:14.620 In what universe does this look like it belongs to a version of the game that forever is supposed to, according to Blizzard themselves, look like? 01:58:14.620 --> 01:58:21.120 Are we being serious? It has all the quintessential features of the retail art style we established earlier. 01:58:21.120 --> 01:58:25.620 Dense her geometry, modeled surface detail, and a rounded silhouette. 01:58:25.620 --> 01:58:34.120 Meanwhile, to return to that throwball for a second, it has an angular silhouette, painted detail, and simple geometry that gives way to the textures defining it. 01:58:34.120 --> 01:58:37.480 you can compare these two things side by side and see a very 01:58:37.480 --> 01:58:40.760 different difference in the part direction. Some of these 01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:44.600 other new assets are literally just backported retail ones 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:48.200 with no changes or look at these new tier sets. They could be 01:58:48.200 --> 01:58:51.560 added to retail WoW's trading post tomorrow and not a single 01:58:51.560 --> 01:58:55.080 player would call them out as assets that don't belong. Once 01:58:55.080 --> 01:58:58.600 again, good litmus test. If you ask yourself, could this go on 01:58:58.600 --> 01:59:01.880 the retail trading post? Could this go on to retail and 01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:07.720 Someone might, they wouldn't call it out, then it's probably not a good fit for forever, right? 01:59:07.720 --> 01:59:12.280 Very, very good question to ask before, before actually putting anything into the game. 01:59:12.280 --> 01:59:17.640 Every single one of them does not look like any armor set created between 04 and 06. 01:59:18.440 --> 01:59:25.160 True, true, true. This is very, like especially the Helm's Retail-E. I called that out right 01:59:25.160 --> 01:59:29.080 when I saw the Priest Tear Set. I was like, I mean, if, but don't get me wrong, the Priest 01:59:29.080 --> 01:59:34.120 The preset actually looks cool, but it doesn't really feel classic, especially the helm. 01:59:34.120 --> 01:59:35.240 And like, look, I like the helm. 01:59:35.240 --> 01:59:37.360 And like I said, it's look, it looks awesome. 01:59:37.360 --> 01:59:39.880 Because it's not the, not the conversation. 01:59:39.880 --> 01:59:44.920 Sixth, and again, not because they are new models, but because of the way the models 01:59:44.920 --> 01:59:46.420 are modeled. 01:59:46.420 --> 01:59:48.440 The art style itself does not match. 01:59:48.440 --> 01:59:52.600 It is in line with the visual evolution seen in 2014. 01:59:52.600 --> 01:59:57.000 Modern material treatment, far, far denser geometry in the shoulders and helmet. 01:59:57.000 --> 02:00:02.040 And of course, that very same curvature that we see in all retail assets. 02:00:02.040 --> 02:00:07.000 Just because they don't have the complex geometry belts or slots or boots that are added to some 02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:11.040 retail sets does not suddenly make them vanilla in style. 02:00:11.040 --> 02:00:15.400 You can't just remove features of a retail asset or crunch its texture resolution to 02:00:15.400 --> 02:00:20.000 the medium settings and suddenly make it feel like it belongs in vanilla. 02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:21.000 It doesn't. 02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:22.000 Why would it? 02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:26.920 This is not an argument of texture resolution, but one of art direction, of cohesion and 02:00:26.920 --> 02:00:33.040 immersion. A spider model from Legion, a recolor of a cataclysm boss, elementals from Legion 02:00:33.040 --> 02:00:38.520 and BFA, robots from BFA, and Mercyus from Missa Pandaria for some reason, none of these 02:00:38.520 --> 02:00:45.760 strike me as high effort. None of this tells me this product is anything but rushed, and 02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:51.280 it will only get worse. With every new asset being made that looks nothing like the original 02:00:51.280 --> 02:00:56.960 game, the world style becomes less and less coherent. A smaller portion of the world, 02:00:56.960 --> 02:01:02.320 with each new update, is made up of assets that actually look like the original world. 02:01:02.320 --> 02:01:09.200 It becomes an incoherent patchwork of two conflicting art styles. Retail wow is already 02:01:09.200 --> 02:01:14.640 overwhelming with its visual clutter, and I'm concerned that forever will look no different 02:01:14.640 --> 02:01:20.560 if this doesn't change. Okay now that we're done spoiling some data mine visuals, I want to ask you 02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:26.640 one final question. Does this model from the Zephyrus Isles, the starting zone for the Skyborne, 02:01:26.640 --> 02:01:32.160 look like it belongs in Westfall? Or does it maybe look like it belongs in Bastion, 02:01:32.160 --> 02:01:37.760 the Kyrian zone from Shadowlands? Hell, it doesn't even look like it belongs in Zephyrus Isles, 02:01:37.760 --> 02:01:43.680 the zone it was created to belong in. It looks strange. It's a creature that genuinely doesn't 02:01:43.680 --> 02:01:49.760 match any of the surrounding environment whatsoever. It is both stylistically different and even 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:54.640 thematically odd. Are we to think this is augmenting the game in the same way the wonderful 02:01:54.640 --> 02:02:00.320 new rendering tech is? Or is it just supplanting the game? Changing it, sure, but not in a way that 02:02:00.320 --> 02:02:06.160 is faithful to the original. Not in the way that honors the style that clearly defined a decade 02:02:06.160 --> 02:02:11.920 of the entire genre. An odd style that would separate this game from anything else in Blizzard's 02:02:11.920 --> 02:02:18.080 live service catalog. Just because forever implies and should have changes does not mean every change 02:02:18.080 --> 02:02:21.560 is automatically good and should not be criticized. 02:02:21.560 --> 02:02:25.840 And just because something has more polygons or higher texture resolution does not mean 02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:28.760 it automatically belongs in every world. 02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:31.520 Let's think of it Mario example from earlier, right? 02:02:31.520 --> 02:02:33.480 So again, why? 02:02:33.480 --> 02:02:36.440 I can only think of one real answer. 02:02:36.440 --> 02:02:37.640 It saves time. 02:02:37.640 --> 02:02:40.800 It allows Blizzard to monetize the same asset twice. 02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:44.360 It's a cost-cutting measure to get a product out the door faster. 02:02:44.360 --> 02:02:46.360 I recognize that sounds tempting. 02:02:46.360 --> 02:02:52.920 I understand why starved wow players and streamers want a real MMO to play with real new updates. 02:02:52.920 --> 02:02:54.120 I get it. 02:02:54.120 --> 02:02:55.120 Me too. 02:02:55.120 --> 02:02:59.720 I don't want to just play the first two expansions of Classic for the billions of time. 02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:05.120 I also want new content and to finally feel the original world grow again. 02:03:05.120 --> 02:03:10.000 Have we ever considered that there is a right and wrong way to do that? 02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:16.440 Why sacrifice the integrity of the world itself just to facilitate a faster initial content 02:03:16.440 --> 02:03:17.440 cadence? 02:03:17.440 --> 02:03:21.560 Why not take your time and really sell the image of the game that you venerate, even 02:03:21.560 --> 02:03:26.280 if it means spending the next six months onboarding artists to a new asset production 02:03:26.280 --> 02:03:27.280 pipe? 02:03:27.280 --> 02:03:31.040 Like I said, that might be the best move. 02:03:31.040 --> 02:03:34.520 You have your retail art team and you guys are crushing it. 02:03:34.520 --> 02:03:36.160 It looks great. 02:03:36.160 --> 02:03:42.040 your retail assets and you onboard a whole new team of forever artists that really are 02:03:42.040 --> 02:03:48.520 trained to look, you know, make them look like those, those turtle wow, you know, new NPCs 02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:53.240 and stuff like make them look like they belonged. And then you just separate the teams and like, 02:03:53.240 --> 02:03:56.120 you know, have them each doing their thing because trying to cross over is probably crazy. 02:03:56.120 --> 02:04:02.280 Right. And you just have a team for each like that. That might be the best solution here. 02:04:02.280 --> 02:04:08.240 I don't think most players who care about this would care if the first new raids use 02:04:08.240 --> 02:04:11.240 repurposed models for their bosses and gear. 02:04:11.240 --> 02:04:16.400 I'll take one tier of recolors like in the season of discovery if it means a future 02:04:16.400 --> 02:04:17.680 of cohesion. 02:04:17.680 --> 02:04:22.520 And as you can see with the new upcoming models, it's not like we won't be getting a ton of 02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:28.880 random recolors anyway, just like retail, or a five for every new piece of armor surely. 02:04:28.880 --> 02:04:30.920 The only other MMO that has ever- 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:32.260 Yeah, Sean, thank you brother. 02:04:32.260 --> 02:04:35.320 ...in the world forever is trying to, is old school Rinscape. 02:04:35.320 --> 02:04:38.560 And I have played a lot of old school Rinscape. 02:04:38.560 --> 02:04:42.760 It's a game with a hyper-critical community that throws a riot if the studio making it 02:04:42.760 --> 02:04:47.120 Jagex removes a missing pixel from a skill icon in the UI. 02:04:47.120 --> 02:04:48.120 And then- 02:04:48.120 --> 02:04:51.320 Jagex removed the green pixel on the construction logo. 02:04:51.320 --> 02:04:52.720 Why was this not pulled? 02:04:52.720 --> 02:04:56.080 When will Jagex author- authoritarian reign end? 02:04:56.080 --> 02:04:57.080 Bro! 02:04:57.080 --> 02:05:03.340 The old school runescape community makes a reddit post over a green pixel being removed 02:05:05.040 --> 02:05:10.240 Right like that like if it's always been away like been a certain way. Oh 02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:13.400 My gosh, I actually love that. That is hilarious 02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:20.400 Literal a green pixel being removed. Why was this not pulled? I love it dude 02:05:20.920 --> 02:05:22.920 Holy crap, um 02:05:23.400 --> 02:05:26.580 Right, so like, you know, obviously this is quite an extreme example 02:05:27.080 --> 02:05:31.560 It's funny, but yeah, like really though, 02:05:31.560 --> 02:05:35.480 if there's something that's working and it's like there, 02:05:35.480 --> 02:05:37.200 and it's like, okay, you know what? 02:05:37.200 --> 02:05:40.120 Like, hey, that art style cohesion, it's like, 02:05:40.120 --> 02:05:42.440 ah, buh-bah! 02:05:42.440 --> 02:05:44.040 Okay, I think we've really, I mean, 02:05:44.040 --> 02:05:44.880 there's only a few minutes left, 02:05:44.880 --> 02:05:47.440 but I think a lot of us are really on the same page, 02:05:47.440 --> 02:05:49.280 and for the people that don't care about it, 02:05:49.280 --> 02:05:51.160 I hope you can still respect that like, 02:05:51.160 --> 02:05:52.600 there's a lot of people that do, 02:05:52.600 --> 02:05:54.280 and cohesion's still important, 02:05:54.280 --> 02:05:56.600 even if you like the new stuff, right? 02:05:56.600 --> 02:05:58.300 Jagex adds it back. 02:05:58.300 --> 02:06:01.060 They do not fuck around over there. 02:06:01.060 --> 02:06:04.860 And because of that, they have retained the art style that has become one of the most 02:06:04.860 --> 02:06:08.320 recognizable and beloved in the entire medium. 02:06:08.320 --> 02:06:12.380 No high-res textures, no incoherent clashing of art styles. 02:06:12.380 --> 02:06:15.820 It's retro, even more so than classic ever was. 02:06:15.820 --> 02:06:23.100 And yet, it still gains new players, and yet, it still thrives with over 3.5 million subscribers 02:06:23.100 --> 02:06:24.980 as of recent reporting. 02:06:24.980 --> 02:06:31.600 Using a solid, charming, consistent art direction trumps a conglomerate of disparate, barely 02:06:31.600 --> 02:06:35.700 coherent, high fidelity assets any day. 02:06:35.700 --> 02:06:40.660 With the community's guidance, they keep the good and the bad while enhancing the game 02:06:40.660 --> 02:06:43.460 in meaningful, transformative ways. 02:06:43.460 --> 02:06:48.380 On the worst day, Forever can feel like playing a janky mod or private server in no small 02:06:48.380 --> 02:06:54.100 part because of how incoherent some of the visuals are and will be in the future. 02:06:54.100 --> 02:06:55.560 It's still a good game. 02:06:55.560 --> 02:07:00.020 There are plenty of stylistically unsound and solid games out there. 02:07:00.020 --> 02:07:06.100 But it can be so much more if we actually use the opportunity to change it for the better. 02:07:06.100 --> 02:07:09.080 Put bluntly, it's okay to have standards. 02:07:09.080 --> 02:07:10.080 It's fine. 02:07:10.080 --> 02:07:11.840 You are the one paying for the product. 02:07:11.840 --> 02:07:14.080 You're allowed to criticize it. 02:07:14.080 --> 02:07:17.720 This is not an argument of changes or no changes. 02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:20.980 Everyone who is playing forever wants changes. 02:07:20.980 --> 02:07:22.760 That is what we signed up for. 02:07:22.760 --> 02:07:27.500 This isn't an argument of pro or anti-retail wow either. 02:07:27.500 --> 02:07:30.200 Retail can have its vibe, its own vibe. 02:07:30.200 --> 02:07:32.820 Why do we need to start homogenizing these games? 02:07:32.820 --> 02:07:36.020 Why do they need to have the same vibe visually? 02:07:36.020 --> 02:07:41.800 The only other success story in this space clearly hasn't felt the need to do so, and 02:07:41.800 --> 02:07:48.320 I think I speak for most old school MMO players when I say that graphics aren't king. 02:07:48.320 --> 02:07:51.520 Fidelity does not instantly create immersion. 02:07:51.520 --> 02:07:54.280 That doesn't inherently make you believe a world. 02:07:54.280 --> 02:07:57.320 And the world is the main character, right? 02:07:57.320 --> 02:08:02.720 If it needs to be anything, believable seems like the thing it needs to be most of all. 02:08:02.720 --> 02:08:07.440 The issue I have with the Skyborne isn't that they're blue or made up. 02:08:07.440 --> 02:08:08.880 Frankly, I don't care. 02:08:08.880 --> 02:08:12.000 If people care, that's fine, that can be their battle to fight. 02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:16.400 But my problem is that they look completely out of place. 02:08:16.400 --> 02:08:22.840 You know, as Detoggle, wearing this weird mishmash of retail wow-styled armor, bulky, 02:08:22.840 --> 02:08:25.840 gaudy, and deeply immersion-breaking. 02:08:25.840 --> 02:08:26.840 Just look how bloody- 02:08:26.840 --> 02:08:32.320 Dude, TheoryWise is just spitting facts this video, man. 02:08:32.320 --> 02:08:36.080 And just to be clear, like, because I see some people saying like, well, if you just 02:08:36.080 --> 02:08:41.520 want to play classic, go play classic, you're missing the point right over your head. 02:08:41.520 --> 02:08:43.320 And TheoryWise just said it, right? 02:08:43.320 --> 02:08:46.560 It's not about whether you prefer this one or that one. 02:08:46.560 --> 02:08:48.680 It's about that cohesion, right? 02:08:48.680 --> 02:08:51.520 Does it feel like it belongs? 02:08:51.520 --> 02:08:52.840 Not which one you prefer. 02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:54.240 And of course, everyone wants changes. 02:08:54.240 --> 02:08:56.960 That's why we're playing classic plus, right? 02:08:56.960 --> 02:08:59.320 Classic forever, sure. 02:08:59.320 --> 02:09:01.320 We all want that, right? 02:09:01.320 --> 02:09:03.920 We don't want to just be playing the same thing over and over, but it should look like 02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:09.800 it always was meant to be, not copied from retail. 02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:11.880 So very, very, very good video. 02:09:11.880 --> 02:09:17.560 What elves were introduced in TBC, equally gaudy in the lore, but each new asset remained 02:09:17.560 --> 02:09:21.320 stylistically congruent with the game they were added to. 02:09:21.320 --> 02:09:25.360 And before I get told to go back to Classic or whatever, listen. 02:09:25.360 --> 02:09:31.200 The entire point of forever, and Classic Plus in general, which forever objectively is, 02:09:31.200 --> 02:09:38.720 is to create a permanently growing, evolving, and additive version of Classic or Era. 02:09:38.720 --> 02:09:41.420 Should I play that again for some of you guys? 02:09:41.420 --> 02:09:47.400 Like, I mean, I could just replay that sentence again if that over your head because that 02:09:47.400 --> 02:09:48.840 is the point of this. 02:09:48.840 --> 02:09:50.960 After all, Blizzard said that themselves. 02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:51.960 Okay. 02:09:51.960 --> 02:09:57.560 I mean, that is the whole point is for people that love classic, but feel like, okay, we've 02:09:57.560 --> 02:09:59.200 done it a million times. 02:09:59.200 --> 02:10:01.960 Let's make this thing last forever now by adding a new content. 02:10:01.960 --> 02:10:03.840 That is the goal here. 02:10:03.840 --> 02:10:04.840 Okay. 02:10:04.840 --> 02:10:11.240 Wow already exists and is played again. Okay. Okay. This is for you guys that you know, maybe didn't get it the first time 02:10:11.240 --> 02:10:13.240 You create a permanently growing 02:10:13.920 --> 02:10:18.140 evolving and additive version of the classic or era 02:10:18.680 --> 02:10:25.680 Retail wow already exists and is still being updated with new content all within its new visual style 02:10:26.180 --> 02:10:32.360 Classic does not have an alternative to that. That's the point. This is that alternative finally 02:10:32.360 --> 02:10:37.860 The Warcraft is its aesthetics, is its style. 02:10:37.860 --> 02:10:42.260 When you close your eyes and think of the world of Warcraft, I doubt the first thing 02:10:42.260 --> 02:10:47.940 that pops in your mind is handing in a quest or pressing the auto-attack button. 02:10:47.940 --> 02:10:50.900 It's probably an image of the world. 02:10:50.900 --> 02:10:56.980 The gloom of duskwood, the serene autumn of red ridge, the parching heat of the barons. 02:10:56.980 --> 02:11:00.900 These are locales that define your journey. 02:11:00.900 --> 02:11:06.940 They train them through stylistically bizarre and out-of-place assets is a horrible precedent 02:11:06.940 --> 02:11:11.700 to set, and I simply do not see enough people talking about it. 02:11:11.700 --> 02:11:17.060 And those who do essentially get dismissed by a hugbox toxic positivity or get lumped 02:11:17.060 --> 02:11:22.780 into a totally imagined, completely non-existent, no-changes crowd. 02:11:22.780 --> 02:11:24.200 criticizing a video game. 02:11:24.400 --> 02:11:26.100 True, like I'm that guy. 02:11:26.300 --> 02:11:30.180 I've been calling this out for like from like day one and people are like tired of 02:11:30.380 --> 02:11:33.620 me saying it like czar we hear you stop saying the same thing. 02:11:33.820 --> 02:11:35.740 I'm like, guys, this is important. 02:11:35.940 --> 02:11:38.420 And then it's just like, well, go play classic then. 02:11:38.620 --> 02:11:41.500 It's like this is like, dude, what are you talking about? 02:11:41.700 --> 02:11:43.300 Like this is important to bring up, right? 02:11:43.500 --> 02:11:45.780 It really is very important stuff. 02:11:45.980 --> 02:11:49.540 In art direction is totally normal. 02:11:49.740 --> 02:11:52.100 This is an audio visual medium. 02:11:52.100 --> 02:11:58.740 you can like the gameplay and still find issues with the art that truly do make it a worse experience, 02:11:58.740 --> 02:12:05.940 that make it far from perfect. Criticism, when done productively, is good. That is the only 02:12:05.940 --> 02:12:12.580 reason forever is even getting made. It'll also be the only reason it remains good or even great. 02:12:13.220 --> 02:12:19.940 And it's all based on what we've been hearing from you. Forever exists because the team soaked up 02:12:19.940 --> 02:12:24.940 many, many years of ideas and passion for Classic Plus. 02:12:26.740 --> 02:12:30.020 And for that inspiration, we wanna thank you. 02:12:30.020 --> 02:12:33.140 Our ambition is mighty, but most importantly, 02:12:33.140 --> 02:12:37.740 we have room to pivot based on community feedback. 02:12:37.740 --> 02:12:39.900 This is a community project. 02:12:39.900 --> 02:12:44.380 Blizzard has specifically asked for community feedback. 02:12:44.380 --> 02:12:47.740 This is feedback and it is extremely important 02:12:47.740 --> 02:12:48.940 in my opinion. 02:12:48.940 --> 02:12:52.260 At this point, I'm not sure if we'll see any changes. 02:12:52.260 --> 02:12:54.700 It just kind of seems like this is where we're going. 02:12:54.700 --> 02:12:55.860 I hope so. 02:12:55.860 --> 02:12:59.380 Desperately hope that the people who made this game a reality, 02:12:59.380 --> 02:13:03.140 the players of classic who spent almost a decade waiting 02:13:03.140 --> 02:13:08.140 for something like this, don't lose Warcraft again. 02:13:08.140 --> 02:13:25.960 38 minutes of straight facts from TheoryWise. Wow. Wow. Wow. A couple people asked if they 02:13:25.960 --> 02:13:30.940 could get the video link over on YouTube and Twitch. We'll give that one a thumbs up because 02:13:30.940 --> 02:13:34.220 you guys want to share the video, like the video, stuff like that. I will send it over 02:13:34.220 --> 02:13:45.020 on YouTube and Twitch. This is a great video. I think this video is worth. This is definitely 02:13:45.020 --> 02:13:48.820 worth sharing too. One sec. 02:14:04.220 --> 02:14:25.460 Okay, sweet. I mean, that is worth the watch. Holy crap. There it is. Once again, once 02:14:25.460 --> 02:14:32.300 again, guys, if this stuff doesn't matter to you, that's completely okay too, right? 02:14:32.300 --> 02:14:38.300 But I still think it's very incredibly important guns. Thanks for the gift of tier one two 02:14:38.300 --> 02:14:43.620 Thanks for the tier one miss tell things with you in Turkey. Thanks for the prime AK thanks for the problem Johnny 20 gifted subs 02:14:43.620 --> 02:14:47.740 You're crazy Johnny. Thank you very much. Yeah, super chat saying guys 02:14:47.900 --> 02:14:52.460 Please take 15 seconds and tag a friend in this somehow. Yeah. Yeah, definitely 02:14:53.420 --> 02:14:55.420 once again guys 02:14:55.580 --> 02:15:01.820 Constructive you can be positive with constructive feedback. It doesn't have to be this like 02:15:02.620 --> 02:15:09.620 You know hate thread of stuff right theory-wise was generally pretty objective and positive here wasn't 02:15:10.060 --> 02:15:15.540 Too much besides that so I thought the video was great. So, uh, you know, you can be positive with it 02:15:20.500 --> 02:15:23.300 Man there's so many videos I want to watch but guys were 02:15:24.860 --> 02:15:30.100 Closing on like two hour two and a half hours of being live. I haven't played yet. So we're I think we're just gonna play the game 02:15:32.300 --> 02:15:36.300 We'll have more videos to watch tomorrow in the next day. In the next day. In the next day. 02:15:41.300 --> 02:15:42.300 You've got mail. 02:15:54.300 --> 02:15:55.300 Alright. 02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:04.300 Rough stone nice 02:16:10.380 --> 02:16:18.140 Very very nice very very nice. Okay, let's put some stuff in the astronauts 02:16:26.660 --> 02:16:32.280 I mean, I'm down to do a poll you guys want a poll of what what what kind of poll do you want like do you care? 02:16:32.300 --> 02:16:37.300 about graphical cohesion and classic forever is that I guess sure we can do 02:16:37.300 --> 02:16:49.300 the poll do you care about I guess artistical artistic cohesion and 02:16:49.300 --> 02:16:51.300 And plastic forever 02:16:56.300 --> 02:16:58.300 Artistical 02:17:04.860 --> 02:17:10.220 My guess is will probably like 5050 right like some people will care and some whoa and that's fine 02:17:10.220 --> 02:17:12.460 That's fine. If you don't care totally fine like I said 02:17:19.300 --> 02:17:33.060 Okay, well it's 80-20 but it's probably because everyone who doesn't agree already tuned out. 02:17:33.060 --> 02:17:40.980 I don't know if it's really 80% of people care, but still, what I'm trying to say is 02:17:40.980 --> 02:17:44.780 like I recognize that my chat is probably pretty biased here, because I've shared my 02:17:44.780 --> 02:17:48.460 opinions and we just watched a video on it, and a lot of the people that disagree probably 02:17:48.460 --> 02:17:53.540 already tuned out. So I'm acknowledging bias here and the 80% is probably a little on the 02:17:53.540 --> 02:17:58.540 high end. But still, I think that does prove that there is, I mean, if you don't care, 02:17:58.540 --> 02:18:05.340 that's fine. But like it's still a very big deal to a lot of people, right? It's the wording 02:18:05.340 --> 02:18:11.700 of the poll. That is literally the discussion we're having is the wording of the poll. If 02:18:11.700 --> 02:18:17.700 the wording of the poll bothers you, then you probably missed what we're talking about. 02:18:17.700 --> 02:18:20.260 is that is literally what we're talking about. 02:18:27.940 --> 02:18:31.760 That is literally the whole video 02:18:31.760 --> 02:18:35.080 was about artistic cohesion. 02:18:35.080 --> 02:18:37.360 It's not about which one you like better. 02:18:37.360 --> 02:18:39.120 If the wording of the poll bothers you, 02:18:39.120 --> 02:18:41.020 then you missed the point of the video. 02:18:43.760 --> 02:18:44.600 Straight up. 02:18:47.700 --> 02:19:04.720 Um, so 78% said yes, 22% said no, but like I said, I acknowledge bias, so it's probably 02:19:04.720 --> 02:19:09.120 closer to like, I don't know, my initial guess was 50-50, but it's probably a bit higher 02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:11.480 than that, a bit lower than the pole. 02:19:11.480 --> 02:19:37.720 more in the middle is probably reality um okay i want to see the river glades today i want 02:19:37.720 --> 02:19:44.320 to collect my all of my mage books for the ring and the neck like in sod but I 02:19:44.320 --> 02:19:57.160 also want to get a new cloak. What do I want to do first? The ring and the neck 02:19:57.160 --> 02:20:04.440 books get a new cloak? I guess those are the two big things. And then yeah then 02:20:04.440 --> 02:20:10.880 alt time. No criticism allowed. Yeah, no, I liked in the video. Like, I think criticism 02:20:10.880 --> 02:20:21.800 is really good as long as it's positive and constructive. Um, books, what are those? I 02:20:21.800 --> 02:20:26.720 actually haven't found any yet, but apparently they're all the same mage books from Season 02:20:26.720 --> 02:20:34.520 of discovery or not are they made a mage only no maybe not 02:20:44.960 --> 02:20:49.280 criticism is okay only if he agrees with it I mean if I disagree with 02:20:49.280 --> 02:20:53.280 criticism then I'll explain why I disagree 02:20:56.720 --> 02:21:06.740 I don't think of this, but I could agree that it could look very off, yeah. 02:21:06.740 --> 02:21:09.800 Psycho, thanks what you want, RedBat, thanks what you want, Doc, thanks for the prime, 02:21:09.800 --> 02:21:14.100 Turdot thanks for the bits, Dramas thanks for the prime, Mungrid thanks for the T1, holy thanks for the prime. 02:21:14.100 --> 02:21:16.100 I 02:21:38.820 --> 02:21:42.900 Can you see your talents? Yeah, I actually want to respect but the respect is like too expensive 02:21:42.900 --> 02:21:47.940 We gotta get free respex. Yo, Shlony, thanks for the prime. That means to give away today. Now we'll do more soon. 02:21:55.260 --> 02:21:57.260 Yo Craig, thanks for the prime. 02:22:05.620 --> 02:22:09.680 What are you planning on doing tonight? We have a checklist of getting a new cloak. 02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:13.160 I don't know what cloak I want, but like I want a better cloak than this one 02:22:13.360 --> 02:22:17.160 We want a new neck and a new ring from the book exploration, which I 02:22:18.120 --> 02:22:21.740 Don't know where the books are. So we're gonna have to figure about that 02:22:21.740 --> 02:22:27.480 I want to check out the news on river clays and then I want to actually PvP haven't done much PvP 02:22:27.480 --> 02:22:31.320 I want to like do some duels. I haven't even like done that yet, and then I want to make an alt 02:22:31.520 --> 02:22:33.520 I don't think we'll get into all of that today 02:22:34.280 --> 02:22:37.840 What is the book thing? I don't know guys. Where do you find info on the books? 02:22:39.680 --> 02:22:42.500 Someone said uh there's one down here maybe. 02:22:43.760 --> 02:22:48.160 Riverclades? Yo what class next? Maybe Warrior looks fun or Pali? 02:22:52.200 --> 02:22:55.480 You guys are linking something hold on. Only subs to link one sec. 02:23:00.560 --> 02:23:05.080 Are they the same? The map covers 19 folks, 15th and 12th steps, 4th from a higher level. 02:23:05.080 --> 02:23:07.080 Turn to any 10th in the necklace for the ring. 02:23:07.080 --> 02:23:13.560 You need one more to get from level 35 to go further below so there's one and so others all around the world. Oh cool 02:23:20.680 --> 02:23:22.680 Oh sweet 02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:29.640 Okay, yeah, I'll take a look I'll just yeah, we'll just do a little world tour and in fact they're the the sod books 02:23:29.640 --> 02:23:31.640 okay, so I've collected all these before but 02:23:32.200 --> 02:23:33.480 I um 02:23:33.480 --> 02:23:37.720 You know, haven't in a while. But what's kind of cool about this is we get to actually run around the world for once 02:23:38.400 --> 02:23:42.740 If anyone wants to run around with me, I could get a little little squad of people 02:23:45.480 --> 02:23:52.040 To collect books together with if you guys want some of you whisper I don't know if we want too many people but having some might be fun 02:23:52.040 --> 02:24:03.960 It's a long journey. Yeah, that's okay. I want to do it. I don't mind running around the world 02:24:03.960 --> 02:24:12.360 anyway. There's a lot I haven't seen so we might as well go on the journey. You think they'll do 02:24:12.360 --> 02:24:17.400 dual spec yeah yeah they they've already confirmed dual spec 02:24:29.480 --> 02:24:34.640 okay so the first one I'm gonna get is Hall of Explorers 02:24:34.640 --> 02:24:39.960 Let's see what they even look like. 02:24:39.960 --> 02:24:45.880 1k gold for dual spec, hopefully it's not that much. 02:24:45.880 --> 02:24:53.120 Oh yeah, look it's like sparkling a little book over on the shelf. 02:24:53.120 --> 02:24:59.600 Man, it's been a while since I did this in sod, but I kind of like the idea of like giving 02:24:59.600 --> 02:25:03.760 you reasons to just run around and walk around the world for like some cool stuff. 02:25:03.760 --> 02:25:08.560 Oh, yeah, and then inside I think you turn it all into the mage, dude 02:25:08.560 --> 02:25:10.560 I don't know if it's still the same turn in 02:25:10.660 --> 02:25:14.800 The next one I'm gonna go to is elwin. I don't know if I'm gonna do this in like the best order 02:25:14.800 --> 02:25:17.780 But that's okay. We don't have to like min max this thing 02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:31.360 There's a librarian turn it into okay cool 02:25:33.760 --> 02:26:00.160 Do you think they should implement progressive level caps in forever? 02:26:00.160 --> 02:26:02.160 Uh... 02:26:03.160 --> 02:26:09.800 They're kind of fun, but no, I think it like people love to just like binge wow and level and you know 02:26:09.800 --> 02:26:14.760 Like when classic era was launched like no, they shouldn't despite it like being pretty fun 02:26:16.280 --> 02:26:21.160 How was mage doing in forever, I think it'll be good man. There's there's things that needs work with 02:26:22.560 --> 02:26:26.460 But overall like it's fun. It's mage. It's classic era mage, which is awesome 02:26:26.460 --> 02:26:31.820 I think the the biggest problem it has right now is like endgame PvE rotation 02:26:32.740 --> 02:26:38.660 Or even just like dungeon rotation is pretty simplistic, but it looks good overall 02:26:39.180 --> 02:26:44.100 That's the guild of a tabard. Oh, no, I was gonna do that, but I forgot I'll do it later today remind me 02:26:46.620 --> 02:26:50.120 There's 14 mage books, I think it was 20 02:26:56.460 --> 02:27:13.460 Which class seems the most cracked? In terms of cracked, I did. Stop it. Every class is going to get buffs in there, so not going to answer that one, but in terms of rotational complexity, I don't know, like Paladin got a lot of new stuff, it seems cool, right? 02:27:13.460 --> 02:27:16.400 Um, war, affliction warlocks the gossip hunters. 02:27:16.400 --> 02:27:20.200 People seem to be really happy about, um, I think shot a priest looks fun. 02:27:20.340 --> 02:27:21.900 Warriors always just look fun. 02:27:22.040 --> 02:27:23.420 Rogues look a little simpler. 02:27:24.160 --> 02:27:25.400 Mages a little simpler. 02:27:26.120 --> 02:27:28.160 Um, what else? 02:27:28.200 --> 02:27:29.880 I haven't looked too much into shaman. 02:27:31.720 --> 02:27:32.360 Um, 02:27:35.600 --> 02:27:36.500 try to think of else. 02:27:38.440 --> 02:27:39.920 Why not teleport to Stormwind? 02:27:41.560 --> 02:27:42.280 Definitely coulda. 02:27:43.460 --> 02:27:53.220 definitely should a shoe I was rogue simpler you know just just in comparison 02:27:53.220 --> 02:27:57.700 to a lot of other classes the rotation is pretty one-dimensional 02:28:03.900 --> 02:28:08.140 rotation shouldn't be complex it's classic yep yep I agree with that I 02:28:08.140 --> 02:28:12.380 think it all classes should be in the like a similar situation where they're 02:28:12.380 --> 02:28:19.580 in that three to five button complexity range. I completely agree. 02:28:20.900 --> 02:28:26.220 Level of Shaman in the beta? Dude, I have so many classes I want to level man. So 02:28:26.220 --> 02:28:28.900 many classes. 02:28:42.380 --> 02:28:51.660 It's engineering, still a PvP requirement. 02:28:51.660 --> 02:28:52.660 I don't know yet. 02:28:52.660 --> 02:28:56.940 It might still be in the sense that nades are just so good, but like I'm actually tailoring. 02:28:56.940 --> 02:29:02.220 This is just a lot of really cool tailoring items. 02:29:02.220 --> 02:29:07.180 Zard, stop trying to go against the grain. 02:29:07.180 --> 02:29:08.540 This is 2026. 02:29:08.540 --> 02:29:10.620 People just want to know what the best class is. 02:29:10.620 --> 02:29:17.400 Oh my gosh, I told you guys the other day that I am not gonna stoop to that level, right? 02:29:17.400 --> 02:29:18.920 Like, there's no way. 02:29:18.920 --> 02:29:20.680 I don't want to do that. 02:29:20.680 --> 02:29:22.240 Like, that just isn't me. 02:29:22.240 --> 02:29:27.000 I want to be more objective about things and think about things and think about how things 02:29:27.000 --> 02:29:32.400 might be able to be interesting in some ways or maybe they're a little too simplistic or 02:29:32.400 --> 02:29:36.680 maybe they're a little too complex and let's have nuanced conversation because that's what 02:29:36.680 --> 02:29:37.680 we do here. 02:29:37.680 --> 02:30:02.240 to 02:30:02.240 --> 02:30:09.360 I'm probably gonna do this like really inefficiently, but whatever it's about the journey 02:30:16.280 --> 02:30:21.640 What are the books for you turn them in similar to sod where you get like a bunch of 02:30:22.800 --> 02:30:26.460 Like you get a necklace of a ten turn ins and like a ring with 20 or something 02:30:26.460 --> 02:30:34.060 Trying to invite as many as I can. 02:30:34.060 --> 02:30:37.760 Are you in a raid group? 02:30:37.760 --> 02:30:42.640 Just for you know, if other people want to tag along for fun. 02:30:42.640 --> 02:30:43.640 This is why I watch you. 02:30:43.640 --> 02:30:46.060 I love the nuance and love the chill, family friendly vibe. 02:30:46.060 --> 02:30:47.060 Keep it up. 02:30:47.060 --> 02:30:48.060 Thanks man. 02:30:48.060 --> 02:30:50.540 Yeah, like, yeah, I love the nuance too. 02:30:50.540 --> 02:30:52.140 I think the beauty's in the details. 02:30:52.140 --> 02:30:56.740 So those are the conversations I love to have. 02:30:56.740 --> 02:31:03.580 Not what class is the most OP right now at level 20 and a beta, but you know, a little 02:31:03.580 --> 02:31:11.120 deeper than that. 02:31:11.120 --> 02:31:15.420 Keep sending out more invites. 02:31:15.420 --> 02:31:17.420 It's on mid Paladin. 02:31:17.420 --> 02:31:29.100 What race is the best and why is it torn you really I did in terms of ratios 02:31:29.100 --> 02:31:33.580 I think torn might be even on the weaker end, but I think there's like multiple passes for 02:31:35.660 --> 02:31:38.500 For buffs and nerfs there man the world looks 02:31:47.420 --> 02:31:55.860 Looks even better with fog it's my fog off 02:31:55.860 --> 02:32:01.460 Wait did I turn my fog off here let me double check 02:32:01.460 --> 02:32:09.260 I don't know I have it on and I think I just have it maybe on low or something 02:32:09.260 --> 02:32:29.220 A couple more spots. 02:32:29.220 --> 02:32:32.740 If you can pull buff dwarf racial, they seem pretty unimaginative. 02:32:32.740 --> 02:32:34.300 I don't know, I don't know. 02:32:34.300 --> 02:32:37.820 I do know that they're like looking at racials. 02:32:37.820 --> 02:32:39.520 It's gonna be multiple more passes 02:32:39.520 --> 02:32:41.300 with the balancing of ratios. 02:32:41.300 --> 02:32:44.220 Like it's definitely like, it's happening, right? 02:32:45.320 --> 02:32:47.260 You know, I'm a gnome. 02:32:47.260 --> 02:32:49.540 I would assume Eureka's getting nerfed, right? 02:32:49.540 --> 02:32:51.860 Like I would assume there's some that are gonna get buff. 02:32:51.860 --> 02:32:56.860 Like I think the idea is to have them in a similar strength. 02:32:57.780 --> 02:32:59.420 You know, but you know, we'll see. 02:32:59.420 --> 02:33:26.420 I think there's one up here. 02:33:26.420 --> 02:33:43.700 I don't know where it is, but I think it's somewhere in this tower, probably at the top 02:33:43.700 --> 02:33:45.480 if I'd to guess. 02:33:45.480 --> 02:33:55.020 Make another character, I think I will later today or tomorrow, oh nice, it's right here. 02:33:55.020 --> 02:33:57.020 I see sparkles, here it is. 02:33:57.020 --> 02:34:00.020 All right, we'll like wait just a second for everyone to, 02:34:01.420 --> 02:34:03.300 oh my gosh. 02:34:03.300 --> 02:34:05.180 You have to get it one by one. 02:34:05.180 --> 02:34:06.940 Oh, great. 02:34:06.940 --> 02:34:08.420 Oh, nice. 02:34:11.940 --> 02:34:13.420 Affliction, we're like so fun to play. 02:34:13.420 --> 02:34:15.500 It looks awesome. 02:34:15.500 --> 02:34:17.900 I'll wait like a second here. 02:34:17.900 --> 02:34:21.580 I think realistically we'll have like a train of people though. 02:34:21.580 --> 02:34:23.840 A lot of people are still making their way. 02:34:23.840 --> 02:34:35.520 The next one I'm going to grab is in Duskwood, and then I'm going to move to Westfall. 02:34:35.520 --> 02:34:36.520 Doing the book quest? 02:34:36.520 --> 02:34:38.240 Yep, yep. 02:34:38.240 --> 02:34:40.040 This is the second book we have. 02:34:40.040 --> 02:34:43.000 We need 20 of them for the ring. 02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:49.360 It's a really good ring though, and I, you know, need to test it out. 02:34:49.360 --> 02:34:51.640 And a good necklace at 10. 02:34:51.640 --> 02:34:54.480 I can actually show them, show you guys give me a sec. 02:34:54.480 --> 02:34:57.480 This is the necklace you get at 10 books, 02:34:57.480 --> 02:35:00.280 and then this is the ring you get at 20. 02:35:00.280 --> 02:35:02.120 It's crazy strong. 02:35:03.320 --> 02:35:07.140 So, I love stuff like this, like stuff out in the world. 02:35:08.160 --> 02:35:09.720 Especially with no like flying mount too, 02:35:09.720 --> 02:35:11.720 you just have to like kind of run there. 02:35:15.600 --> 02:35:17.920 You need 20 and you get both I believe, yeah. 02:35:21.640 --> 02:35:24.920 This takes like six or seven hours? Nooo. 02:35:24.920 --> 02:35:28.720 This is probably gonna take like two hours. 02:35:28.720 --> 02:35:32.280 There's no way it can take that long. Oh, you were trolling? Okay, okay. 02:35:34.040 --> 02:35:36.360 Is that mage locked? No, any class can do it. 02:35:41.000 --> 02:35:43.000 It took summit all day, but that's summit. 02:35:43.000 --> 02:35:45.560 Alright, okay. Um, actually we're going the wrong way. 02:35:46.040 --> 02:35:46.760 Sorry. 02:35:51.640 --> 02:36:03.240 Well, EU and NA stay united, no. 02:36:03.240 --> 02:36:15.280 That's just for the beta. 02:36:15.280 --> 02:36:17.560 Are you talking about Summit, the world first beta player? 02:36:17.560 --> 02:36:20.600 Yeah, absolute legend, by the way. 02:36:20.600 --> 02:36:21.960 a marker on yourself. Okay. 02:36:24.440 --> 02:36:27.320 Guys, there's a brand new update to the classic UI forever add 02:36:27.320 --> 02:36:32.840 on that gives you an option to have the bronze forever theme. So 02:36:32.840 --> 02:36:37.400 this is normal. Wow. It's more like silver. But you can 02:36:37.400 --> 02:36:41.480 optionally go with the bronze theme. So like it's outlined in 02:36:41.480 --> 02:36:44.160 bronze over everything. So it feels still like new and 02:36:44.160 --> 02:36:46.800 different, but obviously very familiar. It's like, you know, 02:36:46.800 --> 02:36:50.240 same UI. I actually think it looks kind of cool. Yeah, like 02:36:50.240 --> 02:36:55.520 Bronze around the backpack, Bronze around the frame here, Bronze around the spell book. 02:36:55.520 --> 02:36:56.520 Yeah, that's sick. 02:36:56.520 --> 02:36:58.320 Yeah, it's actually kind of cool, huh? 02:36:58.320 --> 02:37:00.240 So I turned it on. 02:37:00.240 --> 02:37:04.160 I just saw that in the update this morning and I was like, oh, nice. 02:37:04.160 --> 02:37:08.520 Like I like something like that. 02:37:08.520 --> 02:37:15.520 No, I'm not just playing this because I'm Bronze League. 02:37:15.520 --> 02:37:17.520 Hey, Talty! 02:37:17.520 --> 02:37:21.020 Hopefully they fixed add-ons tomorrow. 02:37:21.020 --> 02:37:23.020 Can you show your talent tree? 02:37:23.020 --> 02:37:24.020 Yeah. 02:37:24.020 --> 02:37:45.060 Imagine you're this level 11 and you're just a raid. 02:37:45.060 --> 02:37:46.740 So keeping that Eureka icon the same? 02:37:46.740 --> 02:37:49.100 Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the icon, either. 02:37:52.540 --> 02:37:54.020 Can you show your professions tab? 02:37:54.020 --> 02:37:56.900 This is what my professions tab looks like with the add-on. 02:37:56.900 --> 02:37:58.220 If I click any of the professions, 02:37:58.220 --> 02:38:00.380 it just uses the old profession book. 02:38:05.700 --> 02:38:08.660 By the way, I don't even know if I'm gonna be using this add-on 02:38:08.660 --> 02:38:10.420 when the game comes out. 02:38:10.420 --> 02:38:12.900 I might be using some lighter weight stuff, 02:38:12.900 --> 02:38:16.420 but for right now, it seems to be working 02:38:16.420 --> 02:38:18.620 and like a lot of other add-ons aren't working 02:38:18.620 --> 02:38:20.140 so I'm like, whatever, bro. 02:38:21.980 --> 02:38:26.780 I'm sure I'm gonna change up my add-on situation 02:38:26.780 --> 02:38:27.940 when the game comes out. 02:38:33.940 --> 02:38:35.900 They will implement Odui 100%. 02:38:35.900 --> 02:38:40.900 I mean, I hope so, but I don't think 100% is a very, yeah. 02:38:42.060 --> 02:38:46.100 I would say it's like a much lower chance that happens, 02:38:46.100 --> 02:38:48.100 But we'll see, bro. I hope you're right. 02:39:00.760 --> 02:39:02.760 Um, so there's one over here. 02:39:06.380 --> 02:39:07.380 Somewhere. 02:39:12.740 --> 02:39:14.240 I don't know where it is. 02:39:16.100 --> 02:39:35.620 Uh, does anyone see it, it's around here, it's around here. 02:39:35.620 --> 02:39:39.700 Oh, it's down in the crypts, underground. 02:39:39.700 --> 02:39:41.700 Oh, cool. 02:39:41.700 --> 02:39:43.700 Oh 02:39:43.860 --> 02:39:45.860 This one might be hard good thing we have a raid 02:39:47.340 --> 02:39:52.700 The fog is crazy the fog is always crazy here, but now it's even even cooler than normal 02:39:55.860 --> 02:39:57.860 Yeah, it looks it looks awesome, dude 02:40:11.700 --> 02:40:19.620 Second raid was for me for him by a guy zombie exploder is making a second rage is following 02:40:19.620 --> 02:40:35.780 us around his name is zombie exploder just normal normal spelling 02:40:35.780 --> 02:40:39.380 Someone pulled more let him okay, okay boys buckle up. Oh 02:40:39.900 --> 02:40:45.300 crap. Oh crap. Oh crap. All right. Oh crap 02:40:46.700 --> 02:40:49.660 Yo, we need it. We need some we need some tanks. We need some heels 02:40:50.500 --> 02:40:52.780 Gonna dial this dial it dial it 02:40:53.260 --> 02:40:59.580 If you're a hunter kite it out bang bang don't die here. Okay rip bang bang down. All right Cole. It's on you now Cole. Oh 02:40:59.820 --> 02:41:05.340 My gosh guys. I'm a mage. I'm doing nothing every everything is a resist good thing. We have a raid group 02:41:05.780 --> 02:41:08.900 I thought the Raid Group would be for fun, but this is like highly mandatory. 02:41:12.340 --> 02:41:15.620 Yo, Thorval is tanking. Everybody keep up all the healers on Thorval. 02:41:19.220 --> 02:41:24.500 Yo, whoa, we're actually owning. Thorval, you're a level 17, you're a beast, Thorval. 02:41:26.420 --> 02:41:34.340 There we go. Well done. WT. All right, now let's move down in here and I guess there's a book at 02:41:34.340 --> 02:41:46.460 the other end of the hallway somewhere more like it more like I'm rated world first and 02:41:46.460 --> 02:41:55.700 I'm sure someone's done that what are the books for for fat loot ink nerf Pali comments 02:41:55.700 --> 02:42:06.980 true I don't know where the book is I mean I got this inside I should remember 02:42:06.980 --> 02:42:20.140 it's got to be around here somewhere out there it is yeah like none of us get hit 02:42:20.140 --> 02:42:31.340 these things unless you're like a hunter. Let's just kill all of it, man. 02:42:31.340 --> 02:42:49.300 Brah, who's looting? Oh, goodness gracious. One loot at a time, classic hype. Classic 02:42:49.300 --> 02:43:02.500 type who's loading is level 20 match right now it is but it's going to 30 next 02:43:02.500 --> 02:43:14.100 Thursday how can I get into the guild anyone in the guild can invite but we 02:43:14.100 --> 02:43:21.540 Oh nice, I got it. I'm gonna wait here and just give a second for people to either get here or loot it up 02:43:21.540 --> 02:43:22.980 In fact, I'm gonna go to the restroom 02:43:22.980 --> 02:43:27.220 I'm gonna be right back and then just give people like a minute to loot this one and we'll go to the next one 02:43:28.100 --> 02:43:30.100 Thursday next week next week 02:45:44.100 --> 02:46:13.900 of 02:46:13.900 --> 02:46:21.180 Let's do it. Next up we have Westfall. I don't know if Westfall is necessarily the closest, but 02:46:22.460 --> 02:46:27.260 like I said, I don't know if it's a perfect Minimax way to do it, but whatever. We'll go Westfall. 02:46:29.260 --> 02:46:31.260 Let go. 02:46:43.900 --> 02:46:50.760 Westfall hype Westfall hype. What are we doing? We're getting the major or getting the books 02:46:51.660 --> 02:46:56.020 Is pyro in classic? Yes. Are you not afraid to get burnt out doing so much beta? 02:46:56.740 --> 02:47:00.160 No, not really. I mean if the beta was to level 60 02:47:00.160 --> 02:47:06.540 I would have that feeling but just doing fun cap stuff at level 20 isn't what we're gonna be doing anyway 02:47:06.700 --> 02:47:08.700 This is just fun kind of like sod 02:47:08.700 --> 02:47:17.940 There's actually two in Westfall. 02:47:17.940 --> 02:47:18.940 Next Thursday will be Chitra. 02:47:18.940 --> 02:47:19.940 I have no idea. 02:47:19.940 --> 02:47:20.940 What are the books for? 02:47:20.940 --> 02:47:21.940 Gear? 02:47:21.940 --> 02:47:22.940 What's the name of the classic UI? 02:47:22.940 --> 02:47:23.940 I don't know. 02:47:23.940 --> 02:47:24.940 Classic UI forever. 02:47:24.940 --> 02:47:30.740 Got to say, World GDP at 20 is actually fun. 02:47:30.740 --> 02:47:34.940 Yeah, it's just like season of discovery or a little bit like it. 02:47:34.940 --> 02:47:56.940 Um... 02:47:56.940 --> 02:48:01.940 Good morning, LA, good morning. 02:48:01.940 --> 02:48:16.940 There's a ring and a necklace. 02:48:16.940 --> 02:48:21.660 I think there's another one around here, guys, so... 02:48:21.660 --> 02:48:29.660 Try to figure out where that is. 02:48:29.660 --> 02:48:39.940 Somewhere around here. 02:48:39.940 --> 02:48:42.060 Somewhere. 02:48:42.060 --> 02:48:45.260 People saying they found it in the inn. 02:48:45.260 --> 02:48:46.260 Nice. 02:48:46.260 --> 02:48:48.260 Alright. 02:48:48.260 --> 02:48:54.160 All right, no mish-tome right here guys sentinel hill 02:48:58.460 --> 02:49:00.460 Did you say a peachy sex week, I don't know 02:49:02.180 --> 02:49:07.900 Oh TTS is off my bud. What do you use to manage your stream? I use stream elements 02:49:09.620 --> 02:49:14.020 Preventor says 40 months time to get my mount by the way, when are you gonna make your first alt in the beta today or tomorrow? 02:49:14.020 --> 02:49:19.020 There's a world still feel dangerous. 02:49:19.020 --> 02:49:25.020 Yes. 02:49:25.020 --> 02:49:27.020 Wins the next giveaway soon. 02:49:27.020 --> 02:49:28.020 Okay. 02:49:28.020 --> 02:49:42.100 I'm going to give everyone a sec to grab this or at least most people. 02:49:42.100 --> 02:49:44.880 No quest for this. 02:49:44.880 --> 02:49:46.480 When are you hosting the rogue council? 02:49:46.480 --> 02:49:50.620 I feel like I need to at least level the class to 20 before I host a council. 02:49:50.620 --> 02:49:55.060 So maybe I'll level an alt and then host a council on that alt and then level another 02:49:55.060 --> 02:50:00.060 alt and then host a council on that one and then kind of go from there. 02:50:00.060 --> 02:50:20.060 and 02:50:20.060 --> 02:50:25.580 Okay, so we're going to go to the one in Moonbrook next. 02:50:25.580 --> 02:50:29.500 If you're still looting this one, it's fine because there's going to be a wait at the next 02:50:29.500 --> 02:50:30.500 one too. 02:50:30.500 --> 02:50:37.140 So as long as it's like a little line like this, this is actually okay. 02:50:37.140 --> 02:50:41.620 Like a little train. 02:50:41.620 --> 02:50:46.900 Ah, the chat has finally returned to normal. 02:50:46.900 --> 02:50:48.780 I think a lot of the trolls have left now. 02:50:50.660 --> 02:50:51.700 This is nice. 02:50:54.300 --> 02:50:55.140 What do you get for the books? 02:50:55.140 --> 02:50:56.180 We get some fat gear. 02:50:59.860 --> 02:51:00.700 I'm still here. 02:51:00.700 --> 02:51:01.540 Oh. 02:51:01.540 --> 02:51:02.380 Ha ha ha. 02:51:05.020 --> 02:51:05.860 Ah, crap. 02:51:16.900 --> 02:51:21.900 Okay, so the next book is Moonbrook. 02:51:21.900 --> 02:51:24.900 Somewhere. 02:51:24.900 --> 02:51:25.900 I don't even see it. 02:51:25.900 --> 02:51:35.900 Oh, it's right there. 02:51:35.900 --> 02:51:36.900 I just followed a few days ago. 02:51:36.900 --> 02:51:37.900 I was at YouTube Andy. 02:51:37.900 --> 02:51:38.900 What's up, man? 02:51:38.900 --> 02:51:40.900 Welcome in. 02:51:40.900 --> 02:51:41.900 How do you know where the books are? 02:51:41.900 --> 02:51:43.900 Someone gave me a link. 02:51:43.900 --> 02:51:45.900 Forever Changes Pro? 02:51:45.900 --> 02:51:47.900 I don't know 02:51:53.120 --> 02:51:59.480 Have I pre- ran into any performance issues. Yeah, lots of performance issues. Okay, so everyone's getting that 02:51:59.480 --> 02:52:01.840 I'm gonna wait for people to get it 02:52:03.760 --> 02:52:05.760 There's wetlands there's locked modon 02:52:07.040 --> 02:52:12.920 Silver pine tears fall dark shore barren stone talon or them are strangle thorn 02:52:13.800 --> 02:52:15.800 There's one in strangle thorn 02:52:16.900 --> 02:52:21.060 Probably should go strangle thorn while we're down here and take the boat over 02:52:23.020 --> 02:52:25.620 Okay, yeah, let's go let's go strangle thorn 02:52:29.300 --> 02:52:30.660 Since we're already down here 02:52:30.660 --> 02:52:34.760 I think the best thing is run strangle thorn and then we'll take the boat over and start hitting things in Kalimdor 02:52:34.760 --> 02:52:36.760 And then take another boat over and hit the rest 02:52:45.900 --> 02:52:53.700 They said this is a single-round PTR with the protection environment so many people 02:52:53.700 --> 02:52:56.540 trying to get in I would bet there would be performance issues. 02:52:56.540 --> 02:53:01.100 Yeah, no I think there's like an actual performance issues too not just a lot of players but that 02:53:01.100 --> 02:53:03.260 might have something to do with it. 02:53:03.260 --> 02:53:08.420 Hey, Zarr, why do you want mages to be more powerful? 02:53:08.420 --> 02:53:09.620 I don't. 02:53:09.620 --> 02:53:11.900 I never said that. 02:53:11.900 --> 02:53:14.260 Don't put words in my mouth. 02:53:14.260 --> 02:53:14.980 Okay. 02:53:19.060 --> 02:53:21.380 Memory leak confirmed earlier? Yeah, yeah, for sure. 02:53:21.380 --> 02:53:25.100 Well, I mean, it's definitely a memory leak because the longer you stay online, the worse it gets. 02:53:25.100 --> 02:53:26.460 And then you re-log and it fixes it. 02:53:29.700 --> 02:53:31.780 But fake news is fun. 02:53:40.180 --> 02:53:41.700 Ash, thanks for the prime. 02:53:44.260 --> 02:53:53.820 Man, so little did I know you actually do need a raid to get all these books because 02:53:53.820 --> 02:53:59.820 how else would I have gotten down into Duskwood and like how else would I have been able to 02:53:59.820 --> 02:54:02.380 get to Stringlethorne Vale? 02:54:02.380 --> 02:54:05.540 I'm trying to think. 02:54:05.540 --> 02:54:10.500 We could swim through the river. 02:54:10.500 --> 02:54:12.980 I think just going on the road is probably going to be... 02:54:12.980 --> 02:54:17.720 Yeah, let's just go on the road because people are gonna die if we try to go down the river through the mobs 02:54:20.720 --> 02:54:22.720 Thank you. Yeah, no, let's just go on the road 02:54:31.260 --> 02:54:37.660 You can do slash console gx restart instead of relocking for the memory leak does that work guys slash console gx restart 02:54:43.420 --> 02:54:45.420 No, no, no 02:54:47.100 --> 02:54:49.100 Yes, yes, no 02:54:50.420 --> 02:54:54.700 Yeah, I'm gonna go up to the road and then run down to us trying to turn oh 02:54:55.860 --> 02:54:57.860 Dude, there's a 02:54:57.860 --> 02:55:01.700 There's two two horde players out here three horde players 02:55:03.780 --> 02:55:09.940 Guys this is this is how it feels to be alliance this past week like it's just like you're outnumbered by like 30 02:55:09.940 --> 02:55:21.900 And now we return the favor I guess. There we go. Okay. And we move. It works sometimes 02:55:21.900 --> 02:55:31.380 but it's a toss up. Here let me try it. So my FPS is 35. I did the console, GX restart. 02:55:31.380 --> 02:55:37.900 And now it's 22. It made it worse. Guys, what are you linking me? 02:55:37.900 --> 02:55:42.380 Oh, now it went up to 35. Okay, not doing that again. 02:55:42.380 --> 02:55:49.500 I think it's done for a beta where they want us to test the CL. 02:55:49.500 --> 02:55:56.000 I think that might be happening. We'll see. Like, like, Blizzard knows that this is an 02:55:56.000 --> 02:56:02.020 issue for testing. So I think Respex, we'll see. We'll see. Hopefully tomorrow on the 02:56:02.020 --> 02:56:05.020 patch they do that. 02:56:05.020 --> 02:56:13.820 Confirmed, alt at 4 stops the memory leak, although it might have some side effects. 02:56:13.820 --> 02:56:21.940 Okay, true. 02:56:21.940 --> 02:56:24.940 Patch tomorrow, isn't tomorrow the patch? 02:56:24.940 --> 02:56:25.940 The new build? 02:56:25.940 --> 02:56:32.580 That's what I thought. 02:56:32.580 --> 02:56:38.260 There's a patch tomorrow and then the next week the level cap increase the 24th. 02:56:38.260 --> 02:56:49.540 Yeah, it's tomorrow, right? 02:56:49.540 --> 02:56:54.340 Is there still a second raid following us or is it just one raid? 02:56:54.340 --> 02:56:58.180 There might be two raids. 02:56:58.180 --> 02:57:01.180 Yes, we are back here. 02:57:01.180 --> 02:57:03.920 Who's the leader of the second raid? 02:57:03.920 --> 02:57:06.340 So there's a- people saying there's a second raid, let me do it. 02:57:06.340 --> 02:57:08.900 Cause people- more people want in. 02:57:22.900 --> 02:57:25.300 Apparently we need a third raid. 02:57:27.180 --> 02:57:28.500 This guy says... 02:57:29.500 --> 02:57:31.140 Wait, yes, yes. 02:57:31.140 --> 02:57:34.180 Yes, me, me, me, I am solo. 02:57:34.180 --> 02:57:36.720 Yo, LouTV, he's solo. 02:57:36.720 --> 02:57:38.820 If you want an invite to our layer 02:57:38.820 --> 02:57:41.060 to get all these things, whisper LouTV. 02:57:41.060 --> 02:57:43.860 I just volunteered you, bro, sorry. 02:57:43.860 --> 02:57:46.020 L-U-I SpaceTV. 02:57:47.580 --> 02:57:49.480 Your third raid leader now. 02:57:51.380 --> 02:57:52.380 Okay, there we go. 02:57:56.300 --> 02:57:57.420 Nice. 02:57:57.420 --> 02:57:58.520 Poor guy, yeah. 02:57:58.520 --> 02:58:05.520 Did they add focus for him? They did, yeah. Oh! 02:58:11.320 --> 02:58:17.200 This guy's name is Absolute Shad. These poor horde, they were running away from Alliance 02:58:17.200 --> 02:58:24.200 and then ran into us. Shoot! 02:58:29.360 --> 02:58:32.260 Focus frame not in my classic plus 02:58:39.620 --> 02:58:44.740 Okay, so this thing is like midway down like over here somewhere 02:58:45.860 --> 02:58:51.060 This one actually might be kind of hard to get but definitely gonna need some gamers 02:58:58.520 --> 02:59:02.520 Get the flight path. Is there a new flight path up top? 02:59:02.520 --> 02:59:06.520 That's news to me. 02:59:06.520 --> 02:59:10.520 Zenny, thanks for the prem. 02:59:10.520 --> 02:59:14.520 No. 02:59:14.520 --> 02:59:18.520 Okay, so for a lot of these mobs, guys, we can just run by. 02:59:18.520 --> 02:59:22.520 We are going to have to kill some eventually, so. 02:59:22.520 --> 02:59:26.520 We'll see. Yo, Griffles, thanks for the prem. 02:59:26.520 --> 02:59:33.200 How much HP do I have? 02:59:33.200 --> 02:59:35.320 1147. 02:59:35.320 --> 02:59:37.160 That's with buffs though. 02:59:37.160 --> 02:59:41.760 Graphco, thanks for the prem. 02:59:41.760 --> 02:59:42.760 What's going on here? 02:59:42.760 --> 02:59:44.720 We're getting some books. 02:59:44.720 --> 02:59:47.920 Did you upgrade your build from yesterday? 02:59:47.920 --> 02:59:51.760 I want to respect that it's too expensive so I'm going to wait until they reduce the 02:59:51.760 --> 02:59:52.760 cost. 02:59:52.760 --> 03:00:03.660 I think I'm going to take one point out of permafrost and put it into frostbite, and then maybe one point out of frostbolt or permafrost and put it into leprecision, but just like shift a couple of points. 03:00:04.380 --> 03:00:06.980 Would zoom to my plan? I don't know, just kind of like around here. 03:00:07.220 --> 03:00:08.940 Crossfire! Thanks for the prom, dude. 03:00:10.820 --> 03:00:14.780 Oh! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 03:00:17.700 --> 03:00:18.200 Legend. 03:00:22.760 --> 03:00:38.440 Legend, legend, accidental accept, uh, yeah, whoops, um, I don't know if anyone knows what 03:00:38.440 --> 03:00:41.280 this next one is, but it's definitely somewhere around here. 03:00:41.280 --> 03:00:48.760 Uh-oh, Marloks, keep running boys, keep running, keep running, keep moving! 03:00:48.760 --> 03:00:52.400 The old UI, I'm using this add-on called Classic UI Forever. 03:00:52.400 --> 03:00:56.400 I don't know if I'm actually going to use this when the game comes out, but it seems to be working well right now. 03:00:58.900 --> 03:01:03.900 What I might do when the game comes out is just download an add-on for the unit frames in the CAS bar. 03:01:04.500 --> 03:01:11.400 Because I actually like the new minimap and the new action bars quite a bit, so... 03:01:12.600 --> 03:01:13.400 What a beast. 03:01:15.400 --> 03:01:21.200 I think the big two things that I don't like, y'all, thank you, bro, is the unit frames in CAS bar. 03:01:21.200 --> 03:01:25.360 So I might just download an app like more minimal add-on for both of those. I'm not sure yet 03:01:25.360 --> 03:01:32.140 Or maybe I'll just keep with this one. This one's cool too. It changes everything to the old stuff like the quest log 03:01:33.600 --> 03:01:35.600 the 03:01:35.720 --> 03:01:38.360 Talons, you know, it's like complete ogee 03:01:39.640 --> 03:01:41.080 So we'll see 03:01:41.080 --> 03:01:46.000 Is this a belated birthday gift? Of course it is. Yeah. Yeah, I think it kind of goes without saying, you know 03:01:51.200 --> 03:02:16.000 does anyone know does anyone know where this actually is good comps good comps I 03:02:16.000 --> 03:02:24.400 think it's like over there wait no it's hard to tell 03:02:32.880 --> 03:02:41.000 the basilis cave second Samuel thanks to the prom Alex a thanks to the prom she 03:02:41.000 --> 03:02:54.400 He has four, thanks to the prom. 03:02:54.400 --> 03:03:01.000 Crisp, thanks to the prom. 03:03:01.000 --> 03:03:04.800 Um... 03:03:04.800 --> 03:03:11.920 Okay, so I think it's still just like down this way 03:03:14.080 --> 03:03:19.060 What's the patch updating so tomorrow I think though it would just be a new build so bug fixes 03:03:19.440 --> 03:03:23.780 Bob's nerves some classes might get nerve some classes might get buff new talents 03:03:23.780 --> 03:03:27.860 It's like it should be like a straight-up patch next Thursday is increase of 30 03:03:34.800 --> 03:03:40.200 It'll be cool man. This is the first balance patch. We pretty much ever had on classic era like how rad 03:03:50.200 --> 03:03:56.440 Okay, let's see what's locked in here the basilis cave. I don't know what the best way to get to it 03:03:56.440 --> 03:04:08.760 Master Lock, thanks for the prime. Can't wait for more complaining. People will always complain, 03:04:08.760 --> 03:04:22.840 you know. People will, will always always complain. There's a Basilisk here. I wonder if we take, 03:04:22.840 --> 03:04:25.280 Like, do we go in that way? 03:04:25.280 --> 03:04:35.920 It might be in there, guys. 03:04:35.920 --> 03:04:37.080 Is it in here? 03:04:37.080 --> 03:04:38.560 It might be in there. 03:04:38.560 --> 03:04:43.480 I think it might be in here, guys. 03:04:43.480 --> 03:04:48.480 I'm not sure. 03:04:48.480 --> 03:04:59.060 We might need to kill these. 03:04:59.060 --> 03:05:01.260 Let's start killing these. 03:05:01.260 --> 03:05:04.980 This might be tough guys. 03:05:04.980 --> 03:05:08.080 Definitely need some heals and tanks. 03:05:08.080 --> 03:05:10.980 Why are we in Stranglethorne? 03:05:10.980 --> 03:05:15.560 Apparently there's a book over here. 03:05:15.560 --> 03:05:27.560 Miss, Miss, Miss. Miss, Ms. Ms. Miss. Miss, Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Mas Ms. 03:05:27.560 --> 03:05:37.340 Ms. Ms. Ms. Ms. Ooh, I hit a 43. Who is crying more? Warriors, Druids or Mages? What class is crying 03:05:37.340 --> 03:05:43.480 the most do you guys think? Probably Mages and then Rogue and then Warrior? Druid, really? 03:05:43.480 --> 03:05:45.480 Druid really you guys think druids I 03:05:47.320 --> 03:05:53.440 Have been deep diving the druids yet, but like feral got a step moonkin rotation looks fun and viable now 03:05:54.560 --> 03:05:59.740 And I haven't looked too much into rest over there like wild growth don't they what what's wrong about druids? 03:05:59.740 --> 03:06:03.760 I feel like the rotations on druids look fun. They got a lot of new stuff 03:06:09.240 --> 03:06:11.960 Cat form just sucks it's like we're just not 03:06:13.480 --> 03:06:29.920 It's around here somewhere boys we have to open our eyes oh there it is there it is research 03:06:29.920 --> 03:06:38.280 notes okay guys everybody focus up on killing the mob okay form a single file line I'm stuck 03:06:38.280 --> 03:06:44.720 Okay, I'm I'm stuck crap 03:06:50.100 --> 03:06:57.560 Yeah, there's actually a lot of basilis we a lot of hunter damage and healers and tanks and I wish I could like hit these mobs 03:07:08.280 --> 03:07:17.600 Man, it's really good we have like multiple raids for this. 03:07:17.600 --> 03:07:21.040 Alright, let's give everyone a minute to grab it. 03:07:21.040 --> 03:07:23.040 If you already have it, just move to the side. 03:07:23.040 --> 03:07:26.800 Everyone else just spam click. 03:07:26.800 --> 03:07:48.400 stay on top of it. 03:07:48.400 --> 03:07:52.720 Okay while we're waiting for this one let's do a giveaway huh? 03:07:52.720 --> 03:07:54.960 Let's do it. 03:07:54.960 --> 03:08:00.640 Let's do it. 03:08:00.640 --> 03:08:06.520 Forever Hype 2 in the chat for the next giveaway. 03:08:06.520 --> 03:08:17.720 This is for the $80 Collectors Edition, which comes with a Beta Key Warcraft 3 and Skyborne 03:08:17.720 --> 03:08:30.080 It's this right here collect collection edition warcraft forever 03:08:30.080 --> 03:08:36.300 That's what you're potentially winning forever. Hi two in the chat. It's gonna check it out 03:08:36.300 --> 03:08:42.300 Good luck have fun 03:08:55.740 --> 03:08:57.740 Forever hype to 03:08:57.740 --> 03:08:59.740 Right to 03:09:00.700 --> 03:09:02.700 You have to type forever hype to in the chat 03:09:02.700 --> 03:09:06.320 And then the next spot we're going is 03:09:11.500 --> 03:09:17.860 Crap there's so many of them. I think the best one is let's go let's take the boat over and booty Bay 03:09:19.060 --> 03:09:22.920 There's three in the parents. Let's take the boat to ratchet and get the parents ones 03:09:24.500 --> 03:09:26.600 Okay, oh cool. Thanks, bro 03:09:28.220 --> 03:09:32.180 Let's give everyone a second to get this and then just keep moving 03:09:33.360 --> 03:09:37.600 There's one near there's one right there. I don't think there's another one 03:09:44.040 --> 03:09:49.120 Yes fire here oh campfire, okay 03:09:51.360 --> 03:09:52.400 Oh 03:09:52.400 --> 03:09:55.600 Savics raid. Thank you. Sav appreciate it dude. I 03:09:56.360 --> 03:10:02.240 Hope you had a birthday birthday gift. There it is. I hope you I hope you had a good stream and we're doing a giveaway right now 03:10:02.240 --> 03:10:07.080 So perfect time to raid if you type forever hype to in the chat you guys have a chance to win 03:10:08.240 --> 03:10:10.240 the collectors edition of 03:10:11.240 --> 03:10:17.920 World of Warcraft forever the $80 value is sky born Warcraft 3 which I still need to play it all the way and 03:10:18.800 --> 03:10:20.680 beta access 03:10:20.680 --> 03:10:24.920 if you guys want to have a chance to win just type forever hype to in the chat and 03:10:25.640 --> 03:10:27.640 Good luck at fun. We'll roll it here in a minute 03:10:27.640 --> 03:10:37.920 Okay, so we're going to just keep running down and around. 03:10:37.920 --> 03:10:43.200 Down and around. 03:10:43.200 --> 03:10:44.080 Down and around. 03:10:44.080 --> 03:10:52.160 Hopefully I'm not missing any, so I think we're going to take the boat to Barrens. 03:10:52.160 --> 03:10:57.520 There's like a couple in the Barrens and then there's one in Stone Talon. 03:10:57.520 --> 03:11:03.680 can get after Barons. I mean they're all over I I don't know the most effective 03:11:03.680 --> 03:11:09.880 way but let's go Barons and the Stone Talon I guess. So booty bait are out yet. 03:11:10.400 --> 03:11:15.880 Okay well pick a winner so we can stop the chat spamming in just a second here. 03:11:15.880 --> 03:11:21.600 Oh hey look Zardu is here from yesterday. What up man? I'll put you on follow real 03:11:21.600 --> 03:11:28.320 quick all right we'll roll it in five seconds here guys you don't have to be 03:11:28.320 --> 03:11:32.960 a sub okay I mean yeah you could suffer for you but you don't have to be a sub 03:11:32.960 --> 03:11:38.720 all viewers on YouTube oh I should have said this maybe I'll give you guys one 03:11:38.720 --> 03:11:42.840 more minute on you guys youtubers out there this is a twitch only giveaway and 03:11:42.840 --> 03:11:45.920 not because I don't like you guys on YouTube but because I need a way to 03:11:45.920 --> 03:11:50.000 message you guys if you won so if you're on YouTube I will give you a minute to 03:11:50.000 --> 03:11:53.540 Just tab the twitch type forever hype to in the twitch chat 03:11:53.840 --> 03:11:57.840 So you have a chance to win and then we'll roll it give you guys just another minute 03:12:00.040 --> 03:12:06.820 On twitch I can just click the winner and message them. It's really easy on YouTube. I don't have a way to message you 03:12:12.600 --> 03:12:15.680 I'm still seeing you guys type forever hype to on YouTube unbelievable 03:12:20.000 --> 03:12:22.000 Oh 03:12:25.680 --> 03:12:30.840 Does swallow has one as well. Okay, so we could do like baron stone Talon 03:12:33.040 --> 03:12:35.040 Does swallow 03:12:36.360 --> 03:12:38.360 Okay 03:12:38.560 --> 03:12:41.920 All right, we'll roll it in just a sec here. Good luck. Have fun guys 03:12:42.840 --> 03:12:45.340 beta key plus collectors edition 03:12:45.340 --> 03:12:53.140 We're rolling it in five four. I'm lagging game three two. Good luck guys one 03:12:55.260 --> 03:12:57.900 Congrats to dark horse 03:12:59.660 --> 03:13:05.780 How long have you been following for dark horse? It's still upload updating. I mean you are following the stream 03:13:07.140 --> 03:13:12.500 GZ dark horse. Are you a human being or a bot be honest with me dark horse? 03:13:15.340 --> 03:13:20.400 If you don't reply we're gonna have to reroll here. I've watched you for years 03:13:22.580 --> 03:13:27.960 Okay, okay, what's your favorite moment that you've watched over the years mainly on YouTube? 03:13:27.960 --> 03:13:31.440 Oh, he just came over from YouTube. Oh cool. Well, thanks for the follow on twitch 03:13:31.960 --> 03:13:37.160 What's your favorite moment over the years just so I know you're not a bot if you've been watching for years 03:13:37.160 --> 03:13:41.180 What is your favorite moment you've seen guys don't attack you're gonna get hit by the guards? 03:13:42.480 --> 03:13:44.480 Good luck 03:13:46.140 --> 03:13:50.700 Guys don't attack the whore you're gonna get owned by the guards. I won't be able to save you 03:13:53.500 --> 03:13:56.900 I'm waiting for Dark Horse to reply on his favorite moment over the years 03:14:00.860 --> 03:14:07.740 Double Thunder Fury finding was nuts. I don't know haha. I just like watching your PvP fights 03:14:07.740 --> 03:14:16.260 Okay, so he's an Ochi YouTube viewer, huh? 03:14:16.260 --> 03:14:17.260 Huh? 03:14:17.260 --> 03:14:18.260 Okay, okay. 03:14:18.260 --> 03:14:24.140 I mean, yo, guys, we've done a lot of PvP on YouTube over the years. 03:14:24.140 --> 03:14:26.420 Guys, everybody, let's get the flight path. 03:14:26.420 --> 03:14:29.260 If you don't have the flight path, let's get the flight path, because it's good to get 03:14:29.260 --> 03:14:33.300 flight paths, so we don't ever need to make this run again. 03:14:33.300 --> 03:14:41.260 Wait, I'm trolled, oh it's this way. 03:14:41.260 --> 03:14:46.420 Flight path and we'll go on the boat to ratchet. 03:14:46.420 --> 03:14:47.420 That's a bot? 03:14:47.420 --> 03:14:48.420 No, it's not. 03:14:48.420 --> 03:14:50.420 Dark horse, prove to me you're not a bot. 03:14:50.420 --> 03:14:59.580 Okay, we got the flight path and boat time. 03:14:59.580 --> 03:15:00.980 I never win anything thanks. 03:15:00.980 --> 03:15:03.020 I don't have a specific favorite moment. 03:15:04.580 --> 03:15:06.100 I think this guy's legit. 03:15:06.100 --> 03:15:07.980 Oh, the boat's there. 03:15:07.980 --> 03:15:10.780 We gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go. 03:15:15.900 --> 03:15:17.020 We gotta go. 03:15:17.020 --> 03:15:19.500 Everybody on the boat now, quick, quick, quick. 03:15:22.140 --> 03:15:24.420 Oh my gosh, some people might miss the boat. 03:15:25.580 --> 03:15:26.420 I guess it's fine though, 03:15:26.420 --> 03:15:28.420 cause we'll have to wait for people anyway. 03:15:30.980 --> 03:15:36.620 Aww yeah. 03:15:36.620 --> 03:15:38.740 How can I prove it go watch my channel. 03:15:38.740 --> 03:15:41.780 Alright, this guy seems legit. 03:15:41.780 --> 03:15:43.980 I'm gonna send you a message. 03:15:43.980 --> 03:15:44.980 Congratulations. 03:15:44.980 --> 03:15:46.980 Yo yo. 03:15:46.980 --> 03:15:51.980 Check your Twitch DMs bro. 03:15:51.980 --> 03:16:00.300 Alright, through there. 03:16:00.300 --> 03:16:03.900 Sweet sweet sweet. All right. GG GG. GG. GG. 03:16:06.300 --> 03:16:10.220 Stop the boat. If anyone missed the- oh, it looks like everyone got on actually. 03:16:11.100 --> 03:16:13.580 If anyone did miss it though, it's kind of okay. 03:16:14.860 --> 03:16:16.540 Because there's gonna be such a long train anyway. 03:16:23.180 --> 03:16:26.140 We missed two people. If we have summons that could work too. 03:16:27.100 --> 03:16:29.260 Yo, uh, thank you bro. Thank you. Thank you. 03:16:30.300 --> 03:16:35.120 My favorite moment was when you hit 99 woodcutting. Thanks, bro 03:16:40.140 --> 03:16:44.740 It's our using a custom add-on it looks like classic but with the forever colors. I'm using 03:16:45.540 --> 03:16:48.620 Classic UI forever with the bronze forever theme. It's pretty cool 03:16:48.620 --> 03:17:00.060 My favorite moment was the searing ghoul death, yeah that was very unlucky. 03:17:00.060 --> 03:17:06.380 My favorite moment was you dying to two green mobs, very unlucky. 03:17:06.380 --> 03:17:17.460 Wow, I can't believe you guys just killed the horde like that, it's kinda nuts for how 03:17:47.460 --> 03:17:50.460 prime nowhere thanks to the prime get shrap thanks to the prime bet thanks to the 03:17:50.460 --> 03:17:53.340 prime owner thanks to the prime deck thanks to prime obi thanks to the prime 03:17:53.340 --> 03:17:56.420 f7 thanks to the prime active thanks to the two and don't thanks to the prime 03:17:56.420 --> 03:18:01.980 just fun thanks to the prime if I miss yourself thank you very much guys 03:18:01.980 --> 03:18:12.100 massive crats there we go big big wait so you have like a two and a half year 03:18:12.100 --> 03:18:19.940 as well, huh? Or maybe close to three? That's high. That is high. Alright, let's get the 03:18:19.940 --> 03:18:29.860 flight pass if we don't have it, guys. And then let's go up to... there's one like... 03:18:29.860 --> 03:18:37.060 is it in here? Yeah, it's in here. Okay, so if you... once you get it, guys, just run 03:18:37.060 --> 03:18:41.780 out. And if you miss the boat, this is your time to catch up, since we'll be here a few 03:18:41.780 --> 03:18:53.500 minutes anyway. 03:18:53.500 --> 03:18:56.020 Favorite moment is our variant, Kiting the Giant to Booty Bay. 03:18:56.020 --> 03:18:59.300 That was a big unlock moment, and I realized you could do so much cool stuff in a while. 03:18:59.300 --> 03:19:00.300 Oh yeah. 03:19:00.300 --> 03:19:01.300 Oh yeah. 03:19:01.300 --> 03:19:06.660 And now look what we have. 03:19:06.660 --> 03:19:07.660 What are you collecting? 03:19:07.660 --> 03:19:10.800 all the books out in the world. 03:19:10.800 --> 03:19:19.800 Pseudo, thanks for the prime. 03:19:19.800 --> 03:19:22.000 It gives you some gear. 03:19:22.000 --> 03:19:24.240 Necklace and a ring. 03:19:24.240 --> 03:19:29.580 Lexi, thanks for the prime. 03:19:29.580 --> 03:19:32.320 My favorite moment is all the times you beat Peekaboo. 03:19:32.320 --> 03:19:35.320 Well, which one specifically? There's a lot of them. 03:19:39.320 --> 03:19:40.320 Nice, I got it. 03:19:41.320 --> 03:19:42.320 I'm gonna... 03:19:43.320 --> 03:19:45.320 I'm gonna get out of here for a second. 03:19:49.320 --> 03:19:52.320 So there's two more in the Barrens. 03:19:52.320 --> 03:19:55.320 Let's get the North one first. 03:19:55.320 --> 03:19:58.320 Guess we'll go to Stone Talent after it. Yes, we'll get... 03:19:58.320 --> 03:20:05.300 sludge fine one okay so we're gonna go I don't know if we can 03:20:10.360 --> 03:20:15.160 maybe we actually can go that way yeah we'll go this way all right so we're 03:20:15.160 --> 03:20:20.520 gonna go we're gonna go up north next we'll just wait for people have you 03:20:20.520 --> 03:20:25.400 visited the new forever zone not yet I'm gonna go later today 03:20:29.040 --> 03:20:32.960 Sleeping bag quest next. Oh, I forgot about the sleeping bag quest 03:20:35.200 --> 03:20:41.220 Shoot, yeah, yeah, I probably will do that next I want to do this and I want to get a cloak then like get some enchants and like 03:20:42.240 --> 03:20:45.120 Check out the new zone and like dual and world PvP 03:20:52.960 --> 03:20:54.480 We'll see 03:20:54.480 --> 03:21:00.240 My favorite moment was BSing while you jumped around shot on the special tiger waiting for arena queues, bro 03:21:00.240 --> 03:21:03.400 You're an OG viewer if you remember that. Wow 03:21:04.200 --> 03:21:05.560 That's like 03:21:05.560 --> 03:21:09.900 14 year old viewer right or 14 old not year old 14 03:21:11.160 --> 03:21:14.400 Followage 14 years of viewing. Yeah 03:21:14.400 --> 03:21:24.760 Remember when you and your wife did workout streams? Oh, yeah. Those were fun too. I think 03:21:24.760 --> 03:21:33.040 almost everyone has it. Okay, we can probably start running if you're still getting it. 03:21:33.040 --> 03:21:37.440 That's fine. We're going to make our way to the next one, but it's okay that there'll 03:21:37.440 --> 03:21:43.940 be a line since we'll be waiting at the next one anyway. Back when you were at your old 03:21:43.940 --> 03:21:49.940 spot with the black paneling dude yeah that was my last apartment that apartment was actually legendary 03:21:51.380 --> 03:21:52.660 we had some good streams out of there 03:21:54.740 --> 03:22:03.540 i've been at this house now guys for six years we moved in in 2020 it is 2026 can you believe 03:22:03.540 --> 03:22:09.540 that we've been in this room for six years i was talking to shannon about that i was like what the 03:22:09.540 --> 03:22:11.540 What the heck? Six years? 03:22:13.540 --> 03:22:15.540 Feels like we just moved here. 03:22:24.540 --> 03:22:26.540 Move faster, gnomes. 03:22:26.540 --> 03:22:28.540 Work, work. 03:22:32.540 --> 03:22:36.540 COVID time dilation? Yeah, the whole, yeah, exactly, very weird... 03:22:36.540 --> 03:22:38.540 era. Like, what's going on? 03:22:39.540 --> 03:22:45.660 I can't believe Kai is almost 3 already, I know, it's nuts. 03:22:45.660 --> 03:23:05.580 Yeah, I live in Tucson. 03:23:05.580 --> 03:23:07.100 What's the rate on your mortgage? 03:23:07.100 --> 03:23:20.780 then I think we got like 2.625 or something 2.6 yeah crazy crazy yeah and you know no 03:23:20.780 --> 03:23:29.580 no cap I remember talking to my loan officer and I was like or the the mortgage person 03:23:29.580 --> 03:23:36.780 and it was my you know first house and I was I was asking her I was like so is 2.6 good 03:23:36.780 --> 03:23:43.380 because like should I wait to see if it gets lower or like like I had no idea and 03:23:43.380 --> 03:23:46.980 she's like yeah I've been doing this for 30 years since the lowest I've ever 03:23:46.980 --> 03:23:51.420 seen it I'll say all right let's send this where do I sign oh yeah I had no 03:23:51.420 --> 03:24:00.860 clue I had no idea 03:24:00.860 --> 03:24:07.980 Good thing you didn't wait. Yeah, then they just like kept going up. So 03:24:13.820 --> 03:24:15.900 Hope he locked it for a lifetime. Yeah 03:24:16.660 --> 03:24:18.100 We 03:24:18.100 --> 03:24:20.100 Yeah, it's it's a lot. It's fixed 03:24:20.300 --> 03:24:25.780 Although we do plan to move at some point. Yeah, I would actually we were planning to move like a while ago, but 03:24:26.900 --> 03:24:30.620 Housing markets weird. So we I went like we don't plan to stay here 03:24:30.860 --> 03:24:35.740 It's supposed to be even more temporary than this, but it's been six years already, man. It's crazy 03:24:49.100 --> 03:24:51.100 Gamer thanks for the prong 03:24:51.100 --> 03:25:00.220 where do you want to go I mean assuming I mean I don't know bro like assuming we 03:25:00.220 --> 03:25:03.740 stay in Tucson it would just be moving houses because we have family here you 03:25:03.740 --> 03:25:08.900 know being near families a big deal but I do think we will move states one day 03:25:08.900 --> 03:25:14.300 but not any I don't think anytime soon but I do think we will move states one 03:25:14.300 --> 03:25:20.220 day but I don't know but yeah no I was just talking about moving houses to 03:25:20.220 --> 03:25:25.580 somewhere with basically like like a stream room separate from the house is 03:25:25.580 --> 03:25:29.900 like kind of our big goal I think as Kai gets older and as you know if we have 03:25:29.900 --> 03:25:34.580 another kid then like I would I would like to have my stream room I don't 03:25:34.580 --> 03:25:37.900 know if you guys follow Quinn but he has like a basically a separate like 03:25:37.900 --> 03:25:41.580 stream area like that like finding somewhere to do that we don't have a 03:25:41.580 --> 03:25:43.580 I'm picking up that yard to build one, so... 03:25:48.580 --> 03:25:51.580 No, that's... the shed? No, it's not... 03:25:51.580 --> 03:25:54.580 It's not gonna be a shed, it would be like a guest house. 03:26:11.580 --> 03:26:30.660 Honestly, like next time we could probably start moving to the next one even sooner because 03:26:30.660 --> 03:26:37.540 it's like, like everyone just like catches up anyway and then we have to wait anyway. 03:26:37.540 --> 03:26:43.660 Okay, so the next one is somewhere around here. I think it's at like I 03:26:45.860 --> 03:26:51.020 Think it's like up here guys. I don't know this is so cool. There's like so many people out here doing this though 03:26:51.020 --> 03:26:54.180 Man, I love it. Oh, maybe it's up here 03:26:55.660 --> 03:26:57.660 It's sludge fan 03:27:01.500 --> 03:27:03.580 Yeah, they might be on the top of that yeah 03:27:03.580 --> 03:27:04.580 Yeah. 03:27:04.580 --> 03:27:07.380 Flesh Bay, thanks for the sub man. 03:27:07.380 --> 03:27:08.940 Have I tried T-Restful yet? 03:27:08.940 --> 03:27:09.940 I've not. 03:27:09.940 --> 03:27:10.940 Make easy, thanks for the T1. 03:27:10.940 --> 03:27:12.740 How do you know where the books are at? 03:27:12.740 --> 03:27:19.900 Yeah, there's just like a website and we're just kind of going around trying to find them. 03:27:19.900 --> 03:27:23.900 They're the same books from Season of Discovery, so I actually already collected these like 03:27:23.900 --> 03:27:28.420 a couple of years back, but I love it man, like I like that you have to like walk around 03:27:28.420 --> 03:27:31.940 and then collect all these things, like, pretty cool. 03:27:34.540 --> 03:27:36.340 Okay, so the next focus right here. 03:27:39.700 --> 03:27:41.420 So once you get it, just stand outside 03:27:41.420 --> 03:27:44.500 so everyone can get it, and then we'll wait a little bit, 03:27:44.500 --> 03:27:46.300 and then we'll move to the next one. 03:27:56.180 --> 03:27:58.220 Don't stand on it, guys. 03:27:58.220 --> 03:28:02.060 standing standing on it it's gonna make it so that no one else can click it we 03:28:02.060 --> 03:28:13.380 could stand to the side. Guys is it mage only no wow actually got it there nice 03:28:13.380 --> 03:28:18.260 I'm gonna stand here for a minute strategize our next move it's another 03:28:18.260 --> 03:28:25.860 one in Barren's and it's another one in Stone Talons we'll go Barren's Stone 03:28:25.860 --> 03:28:42.020 talent. There's one in Orgammar. I don't. There's one in Thousand Needles. There's one in Dustwallow Marsh. 03:28:55.860 --> 03:29:12.900 Do we actually need the Orga Mar one is that do we actually need that one 03:29:17.620 --> 03:29:23.100 No, okay because I was gonna say that's that's gonna be rough 03:29:25.860 --> 03:29:29.860 Okay, we can start slowly moving to the next one. 03:29:38.860 --> 03:29:42.860 So there's one here, one there, and then one in Dust Wallow and then one in Thousand Needles. 03:29:42.860 --> 03:29:45.860 So I guess let's just go all the way down and then take the boat over. 03:29:45.860 --> 03:29:46.860 Oh, thanks, Ben. 03:29:46.860 --> 03:29:48.860 We got some lunch here, too. 03:29:48.860 --> 03:29:55.860 Okay, so I'll go down and over. Yeah, I think this will be good. You getting the ring? Yeah. 03:30:18.860 --> 03:30:45.860 I 03:30:45.860 --> 03:30:50.100 Have I tried proof, Brad? I feel like I have once. Maybe not, actually. 03:31:05.300 --> 03:31:06.300 Um... 03:31:10.100 --> 03:31:12.900 Well, why don't we avoid the crossroads? Can we get through there? I think we can. 03:31:15.860 --> 03:31:28.780 I prefer rice over pasta, and why? 03:31:28.780 --> 03:31:31.260 I like rice better, but I still eat pasta. 03:31:31.260 --> 03:31:43.180 I think rice, I feel less bloated after eating personally, so that's why I like it. 03:31:43.180 --> 03:31:55.680 Rice your potatoes rice in terms of how I feel yeah, I still like rice the best I do I eat potatoes though 03:31:55.680 --> 03:31:57.680 I'd all types all types of potatoes oh 03:32:00.760 --> 03:32:06.580 Ziko thanks for the raid sorry I was eating lunch. I just completely spaced out. Thank you very much Ziko 03:32:43.180 --> 03:33:11.940 Alright, next ones have 46, 36. 03:33:11.940 --> 03:33:13.340 I'm gonna do another class today. 03:33:13.340 --> 03:33:15.580 I don't know if I'm gonna have time today, 03:33:15.580 --> 03:33:17.500 but I might do a new one tomorrow. 03:33:17.500 --> 03:33:45.380 What class am I least excited to play? 03:33:45.380 --> 03:33:49.060 shaman I guess but it's not gonna shaman's look bad it's just I don't 03:33:49.060 --> 03:33:53.300 really like play shaman very often 03:33:58.180 --> 03:34:02.420 when the shaman in our 8 is like whoa whoa whoa 03:34:04.580 --> 03:34:12.180 okay so this is somewhere over here 46 36 03:34:15.380 --> 03:34:28.820 I think it's the cave before the dungeon entrance, okay. 03:34:28.820 --> 03:34:32.820 It says the Gladiator Shaman. 03:34:32.820 --> 03:34:34.060 I thought you hit Gladiator Shaman. 03:34:34.060 --> 03:34:37.460 I did, but it doesn't mean I liked it. 03:34:37.460 --> 03:34:48.380 I could be a gladiator shaman but still not really like shamans. 03:34:48.380 --> 03:34:49.380 Poor guy. 03:34:49.380 --> 03:35:00.540 That's brutal. 03:35:00.540 --> 03:35:10.440 I don't know where this is guys. 03:35:10.440 --> 03:35:14.440 Is it up? 03:35:14.440 --> 03:35:16.440 Is it? 03:35:16.440 --> 03:35:17.440 I'll show you. 03:35:17.440 --> 03:35:18.440 It's inside? 03:35:18.440 --> 03:35:19.440 Okay. 03:35:19.440 --> 03:35:21.440 Deep inside the cave 03:35:31.880 --> 03:35:37.040 Man, I love doing stuff like this though, man. I just get it out in the world doing stuff. Wait, why is everyone going that way? 03:35:42.720 --> 03:35:48.140 This guy's name is Ford nice Ford Pali is his name 03:35:49.440 --> 03:35:51.680 Can't believe you've got the name of Horde Valley. 03:35:57.080 --> 03:35:59.320 Are you acting to read the chat? It's going so fast. 03:35:59.320 --> 03:36:03.000 I have gotten some practice, Sean. I just picked comments out here and there. 03:36:04.000 --> 03:36:05.680 How many subs to move to Colorado? 03:36:07.080 --> 03:36:12.400 No amount of subs on that one, but I've been to Colorado once-ish, maybe twice. 03:36:13.400 --> 03:36:18.160 And, uh, but I haven't spent much time there and it looks beautiful, man. 03:36:19.440 --> 03:36:20.440 Looks awesome. 03:36:23.440 --> 03:36:24.740 What's my last name in the game? 03:36:25.040 --> 03:36:25.840 It's prime. 03:36:25.840 --> 03:36:26.840 Is R U prime? 03:36:27.380 --> 03:36:29.740 Like a prime like a prime sub. 03:36:40.540 --> 03:36:42.440 I like no one knows where they're going. 03:36:42.440 --> 03:36:44.200 So we always run up here for no reason. 03:36:49.440 --> 03:37:04.480 It's somewhere around here. Oh, there it is. All right, so we'll just all get this one 03:37:04.480 --> 03:37:18.480 and then move on to the next one. Have I been to Europe, Germany and Greece? Yes. 03:37:18.480 --> 03:37:21.520 If you did move out of the state, would it be to San Diego? 03:37:21.520 --> 03:37:24.400 We love San Diego. 03:37:24.400 --> 03:37:28.480 We love San Diego. 03:37:28.480 --> 03:37:32.960 I don't know if we would necessarily live there, but it is great to visit. 03:37:32.960 --> 03:37:35.240 It is so fun. 03:37:35.240 --> 03:37:39.560 It's insanely expensive to buy a house there too. 03:37:39.560 --> 03:37:41.760 I mean, stupid, stupid prices. 03:37:41.760 --> 03:37:44.560 We actually did look into it because every time we go there, we're like, this is just 03:37:44.560 --> 03:37:45.560 the best. 03:37:45.560 --> 03:37:53.640 I love the beach, the parks, the weather, a lot of health and fitness scene there too. 03:37:53.640 --> 03:37:55.640 Yeah, I mean, yeah, we really like San Diego. 03:38:17.280 --> 03:38:18.160 How did I like Germany? 03:38:18.160 --> 03:38:19.600 I love Germany, man. 03:38:19.600 --> 03:38:28.040 We went to Cologne as Americans say, Cologne and it was a fun time, it was a fun time. 03:38:28.040 --> 03:38:32.020 I actually want to take Shannon, it's been like a year since I've gone, I was reminiscing 03:38:32.020 --> 03:38:38.120 on it like this August because we were right next to the, was it the Rhine, the river there 03:38:38.120 --> 03:38:42.880 and it was just like so nice and it's like runs are along the river and the food was 03:38:42.880 --> 03:38:45.520 good, the bread was amazing, it was a fun time. 03:38:45.520 --> 03:38:46.680 I was only there like, I was like, 03:38:46.680 --> 03:38:48.480 they're less than a week though, so. 03:38:53.400 --> 03:38:54.760 Did I go to the cathedral? Of course. 03:38:54.760 --> 03:38:58.360 Yeah, yeah, the cathedral was awesome. 03:38:58.360 --> 03:39:02.040 The cathedral is, we can probably start moving to the next one 03:39:02.040 --> 03:39:03.200 in stone telling guys. 03:39:04.920 --> 03:39:09.200 The cathedral is the coolest thing architecturally 03:39:09.200 --> 03:39:11.560 I've seen in my life, which isn't saying much 03:39:11.560 --> 03:39:14.120 because I'm American and we don't have like, 03:39:14.120 --> 03:39:15.560 I've also never been to the East Coast, 03:39:15.560 --> 03:39:17.520 so it's really not saying anything. 03:39:18.460 --> 03:39:19.560 I've been to Greece, you know, 03:39:19.560 --> 03:39:20.760 like there's some cool stuff there too, 03:39:20.760 --> 03:39:22.520 but like that cathedral was like, 03:39:23.840 --> 03:39:27.000 just like mind blowing, man. 03:39:27.000 --> 03:39:28.160 It was so cool. 03:39:30.240 --> 03:39:31.800 That's why I was like, I wanna take Shannon there, 03:39:31.800 --> 03:39:33.600 cause I think she would really like it. 03:39:35.200 --> 03:39:37.600 Yeah, it took like hundreds of years to build it. 03:39:38.640 --> 03:39:40.200 Imagine building something that you knew 03:39:40.200 --> 03:39:42.840 your kids wouldn't see and your kids' kids wouldn't see, 03:39:42.840 --> 03:39:51.480 finish and your kids kids kids kids wouldn't see finish like such a long-term mindset you know 03:39:58.920 --> 03:40:01.320 doesn't make it harder being in a giant raid like this some of the 03:40:01.880 --> 03:40:04.200 folks are hard to get so it's nice being in a raid 03:40:06.360 --> 03:40:10.920 okay so we're gonna go to the stone talon one and then there's one in dust wallow and 03:40:10.920 --> 03:40:14.360 and then 1 in 1000 needles and then after that I don't know where we're gonna go 03:40:15.880 --> 03:40:16.920 we'll have to strategize 03:40:19.960 --> 03:40:23.000 I think there's someone this side of the world so we'd probably take a bow 03:40:32.440 --> 03:40:33.880 Diane G thanks for the problem 03:40:35.160 --> 03:40:38.520 book hunting man book hunting ebb thanks for the problem 03:40:38.520 --> 03:40:44.200 It's for gear guys, you get some good gear from it. 03:40:44.200 --> 03:40:47.280 I actually didn't think it was gonna take this long. 03:40:47.280 --> 03:40:50.040 You guys were right, it's definitely taken a while, but it's all good. 03:40:50.040 --> 03:40:57.000 This is like, this is perfect. 03:40:57.000 --> 03:41:03.800 Um, okay. 03:41:03.800 --> 03:41:10.120 Um, okay. 03:41:10.120 --> 03:41:11.120 We need 20. 03:41:11.120 --> 03:41:16.320 I have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. 03:41:16.320 --> 03:41:23.480 So, see what happens. 03:41:23.480 --> 03:41:41.620 Am I worried about burning out before the game releases? 03:41:41.620 --> 03:41:44.280 No, because like, so I'm level 20. 03:41:44.280 --> 03:41:48.080 These are not things I would even normally do at level 20. 03:41:48.080 --> 03:41:52.960 Like when the game comes out, you're not going to like try to grind level 20 bits, which 03:41:52.960 --> 03:41:57.960 Which is why like something like sawed or beta is fun, because you get to do something kind of cool, new? 03:41:57.960 --> 03:41:59.960 It does look kind of new, doesn't it? 03:41:59.960 --> 03:42:01.960 And I think that is new. It has to be new. 03:42:14.960 --> 03:42:17.960 Yo, Cypher, sending you some love, man. I know that's not easy. 03:42:22.960 --> 03:42:38.200 There's guards here. I mean we can definitely go around so people don't die. I think you 03:42:38.200 --> 03:42:43.760 just go around like this. Kill them? I don't know if we can kill these guards. They're 03:42:43.760 --> 03:42:58.160 level like 60 aren't they? I mean you guys want to just run through huh? Alright I 03:42:58.160 --> 03:43:00.560 mean they're going I guess we're running through guys I guess we're running 03:43:00.560 --> 03:43:12.200 through okay alright good luck there's only one guard pulled in the front yeah 03:43:12.200 --> 03:43:14.200 Okay, nice easy. Oh 03:43:15.600 --> 03:43:22.720 Okay, okay couple more pull just keep moving don't look back if you're a hunter or pet you could maybe tank for us that first guard 03:43:23.320 --> 03:43:25.680 Never killed the druid. W 03:43:27.320 --> 03:43:29.320 Hopefully doesn't kill anyone else on the way back 03:43:29.840 --> 03:43:33.800 Guys, we just saved ourselves 30 seconds with that skip hype 03:43:37.160 --> 03:43:39.160 Unless someone dies 03:43:42.880 --> 03:43:46.280 Dude the parents guard is still chasing that dude. Oh my gosh 03:43:52.800 --> 03:43:54.800 Yeah, Tom thinks of the front 03:43:58.800 --> 03:44:04.400 Dude the parents guard is still chasing Lou Lou run, okay nice. He's turning back 03:44:12.200 --> 03:44:23.040 Okay, so there's one in Stone Talon at 74.85, like somewhere up here. 03:44:23.040 --> 03:44:26.960 Oh, we all got layered for a second. 03:44:26.960 --> 03:44:54.960 looks like we're good now. 03:44:54.960 --> 03:44:58.960 this thing alone wait you got all of them alone how did you get the one in 03:44:58.960 --> 03:45:05.680 duskwood in the in uh or the one in stranglethorne veil alone 03:45:06.880 --> 03:45:10.240 that seems really impossible 03:45:17.360 --> 03:45:21.520 you corpse ran for eight hours yeah 03:45:21.520 --> 03:45:25.360 by lying? Yeah, like some of them seem like pretty impossible alone. 03:45:29.840 --> 03:45:35.840 Hunter pet makes it easy alone. Okay. In my defense, I was gonna do this alone, and then I said, 03:45:35.840 --> 03:45:41.440 hey, does anyone want to tag along? We could do it together. And then now we have a couple hundred 03:45:41.440 --> 03:45:47.520 people running with us. Okay. It wasn't my goal to get a couple hundred people, but it's rad. 03:45:47.520 --> 03:45:52.160 I'm not complaining. It makes it way easier. But my goal was to do alone. 03:45:55.520 --> 03:45:58.560 You actually need all of them? No, there's definitely some you can skip, right? 03:46:04.560 --> 03:46:06.320 Did I cry when last monk died? 03:46:10.480 --> 03:46:14.480 If I did have a tear, it wasn't like... there wasn't like a lot of tears. 03:46:14.480 --> 03:46:18.880 My eyes might have been watering that day, but it doesn't mean I cried. I might have just been like 03:46:20.600 --> 03:46:24.200 You know a little water on my eyes 03:46:32.440 --> 03:46:36.400 Nice we found it good job team 03:46:36.400 --> 03:46:49.800 team. Good job, good job. Grim totem post. Alright, so everybody just click on it and 03:46:49.800 --> 03:46:56.280 then move to the side when you're all done. And then next spot we're going to, I think 03:46:56.280 --> 03:47:03.280 his dust wallow and 1000 eels. 03:47:03.280 --> 03:47:11.720 Dude, legend. 03:47:11.720 --> 03:47:19.120 I cried in 2019 when Classic Era was going to launch. 03:47:19.120 --> 03:47:25.160 10 or 20 man raid if you could choose. 03:47:25.160 --> 03:47:29.000 I like both, I like that they're doing both. 03:47:29.000 --> 03:47:30.000 You cried? 03:47:30.000 --> 03:47:31.000 Yeah. 03:47:31.000 --> 03:47:32.000 Big deal. 03:47:32.000 --> 03:47:34.720 Guys, don't stand on the book. 03:47:34.720 --> 03:47:38.160 Guys, don't stand on the book. 03:47:38.160 --> 03:47:42.160 Go to the side. 03:47:42.160 --> 03:47:47.280 Whoa, whoa. 03:47:47.280 --> 03:47:49.440 Easy Rider, you're a guilty. 03:47:49.440 --> 03:47:51.600 Yo, Easy Rider, that's your warning, bro. 03:47:51.600 --> 03:47:53.760 You're in our group, I'm kicking you. 03:47:53.760 --> 03:47:54.760 Okay. 03:47:54.760 --> 03:48:00.920 gracious. Alright if you get it just move to the side. We'll give everyone a second 03:48:00.920 --> 03:48:09.880 and then we'll do the next one. Is there an interact bar? I think you could probably 03:48:09.880 --> 03:48:18.040 keep mind it, yeah. Please watch the Novel Lore video on forever. Oh my gosh, I didn't 03:48:18.040 --> 03:48:24.520 know we had one. Let me see if I can find it. I don't have time today but I will add 03:48:24.520 --> 03:48:40.360 Add it to my watch later, for maybe later in the week. 03:48:40.360 --> 03:48:43.440 The new Skyborne Elves Explained Wow Forever lore? 03:48:43.440 --> 03:48:44.680 Is that the one? 03:48:44.680 --> 03:48:47.760 Or the World of Warcraft Forever timeline explained? 03:48:47.760 --> 03:49:02.160 We can start making a train on to the next one we'll go 03:49:02.160 --> 03:49:08.840 You guys are sure we can skip the Orgammar one right so we don't like come all the way back 03:49:08.840 --> 03:49:22.520 Okay, so we'll go Dust Wallow and the Thousand Needles. 03:49:22.520 --> 03:49:36.080 The Dust Wallow one actually might be kind of hard, but let's send it. 03:49:36.080 --> 03:49:38.320 You don't want Desilis? 03:49:38.320 --> 03:49:40.280 Uh, that's a good question. 03:49:40.280 --> 03:49:44.800 Hold on, let's think. 03:49:44.800 --> 03:49:52.000 We are already in Stone Town. 03:49:52.000 --> 03:49:55.920 I don't see one here for Desilis. 03:49:55.920 --> 03:50:02.320 Oh, are you saying for the flight path? 03:50:02.320 --> 03:50:04.360 Yeah, we do. 03:50:04.360 --> 03:50:21.360 close. Is there one in Desilis? I don't think there is. No? Yeah. Only the flight 03:50:21.360 --> 03:50:24.680 bat. Yeah, no. 03:50:27.680 --> 03:50:32.920 As a Thunderaxe fortress. I like how like all these websites are like trying to 03:50:32.920 --> 03:50:43.320 like find where they all are but there's one here if there's actually one there 03:50:43.320 --> 03:50:50.320 and we're already this far for the flight path I'm okay to go get it I'm okay 03:50:50.320 --> 03:50:58.840 to check plus get flight path then from there we can fly back okay so we'll go 03:50:58.840 --> 03:51:03.440 So, Desilis will check the map pin, but no matter what, we'll get Flypath, and then from 03:51:03.440 --> 03:51:09.680 there, we can fly back to Ratchet, and then get the one here. 03:51:09.680 --> 03:51:10.680 Uh-oh. 03:51:10.680 --> 03:51:18.960 Yo, XT, thanks for the five, man. 03:51:18.960 --> 03:51:20.280 Wowhead got called up by Blizzard? 03:51:20.280 --> 03:51:23.360 Yeah, I saw that. 03:51:23.360 --> 03:51:45.200 This one has all of them and Tesla's is on there. 03:51:45.200 --> 03:51:48.040 Yeah I do see it. 03:51:48.040 --> 03:51:55.600 guys we're not even doing a giveaway everyone in the chat is having forever 03:51:55.600 --> 03:52:00.600 hype 3 and we're not we're not even doing a giveaway you're like self reporting 03:52:00.600 --> 03:52:03.720 yourself as a bot man 03:52:03.720 --> 03:52:21.500 And we have the twitch staff in here again with the forever high 3 giveaway nice nice 03:52:21.500 --> 03:52:32.600 I don't know why I would assume the other dwarf racial is supposed to make up for it 03:52:32.600 --> 03:52:35.160 I haven't like deep dive on racials like all that much. 03:52:38.120 --> 03:52:39.040 Don't ban me. 03:52:39.040 --> 03:52:44.040 I, if I could ban a Twitch staff, I don't think I even can. 03:52:55.840 --> 03:52:56.680 Guys. 03:52:56.680 --> 03:53:06.680 Can you invite my sister as a replacement? 03:53:06.680 --> 03:53:09.680 Wait. 03:53:09.680 --> 03:53:16.680 Oh, kick you and then invite... 03:53:16.680 --> 03:53:18.680 Okay, I think... 03:53:18.680 --> 03:53:20.680 I think I got it. 03:53:20.680 --> 03:53:21.680 I think I got it. 03:53:21.680 --> 03:53:22.680 I think I got it. 03:53:22.680 --> 03:53:23.680 Cool. 03:53:23.680 --> 03:53:25.920 Think I think I got it. I think I got it. Cool 03:53:29.520 --> 03:53:33.540 Guys we are not currently doing a giveaway I 03:53:34.920 --> 03:53:40.840 Repeat we are not currently doing a giveaway you bots. This is not a giveaway right now 03:53:40.840 --> 03:53:44.760 We're gonna do one later, but but we're not doing one right now. I 03:53:46.960 --> 03:53:49.240 Don't know why people started spamming out of nowhere 03:53:51.160 --> 03:53:53.160 We're not even doing a giveaway 03:53:53.680 --> 03:54:02.360 I think the bots are trained to recognize the word giveaway and when I say giveaway they 03:54:02.360 --> 03:54:04.160 they just start spamming things. 03:54:19.320 --> 03:54:21.160 It's all good. 03:54:21.160 --> 03:54:22.000 It's all good. 03:54:22.960 --> 03:54:23.800 It's all good. 03:54:24.880 --> 03:54:27.160 I'm gonna go crab an apple. 03:54:27.160 --> 03:54:28.320 I'll be your patch one step guys. 03:54:28.320 --> 03:54:30.960 I hope we have an apple in the refrigerator. 03:54:30.960 --> 03:54:35.840 I'm gonna put who do I trust to put on follow pull powers. I trust this guy. Oh 03:54:38.080 --> 03:54:40.080 My gosh, he already has me on follow 03:54:41.360 --> 03:54:44.000 What the heck okay, I gotta pick someone else then 03:54:45.800 --> 03:54:47.800 Launch or talk I trust this guy 03:54:50.320 --> 03:54:52.320 All right, I'll be back on second 03:56:00.960 --> 03:56:29.960 You're back. 03:56:29.960 --> 03:56:36.240 about guys I was getting some water when I was AFK and I spilled water over my 03:56:36.240 --> 03:56:41.600 shirt so you don't need to call me out for it I know it's there you know it's 03:56:41.600 --> 03:56:46.640 there we all know it's there but we don't talk about it'll dry in a minute 03:56:46.640 --> 03:56:54.680 right good no it's water okay technically it's coconut water I was I was 03:56:54.680 --> 03:57:02.680 drinking a sip of coconut water from the fridge and I just uh you know I got an 03:57:02.680 --> 03:57:05.800 apple too except this apple is a little more mushy than I would like. 03:57:05.800 --> 03:57:14.360 Cranny Smith is like normally pretty crunchy but they're kind of oh no I 03:57:14.360 --> 03:57:27.360 Why the paper towel? It's not this again. Oh my gosh, not this again, guys. 03:57:27.360 --> 03:57:32.360 Please, no. 03:57:32.360 --> 03:57:42.360 Please no. 03:57:42.360 --> 03:57:47.360 Um. 03:57:47.360 --> 03:57:58.720 Okay, we're gonna go, yeah, we're gonna go. 03:57:58.720 --> 03:58:02.480 Celeste and we'll fly back and then there's thousand needles to and us walla 03:58:04.440 --> 03:58:06.440 Hmm oh 03:58:07.520 --> 03:58:09.520 So ten get good sobs, thank you mom 03:58:22.480 --> 03:58:24.960 Wait you guys saw apples in the fridge or on the counter 03:58:24.960 --> 03:58:32.080 someone said storing them in the fridge makes a mushy is that is that true fridge fridge fridge 03:58:32.080 --> 03:58:39.920 yeah we do fridge as well I kind of like when apples are cold actually fruit in general is 03:58:39.920 --> 03:58:47.760 better cold I think except bananas I think bananas are better warm well not warm but like room temp 03:58:47.760 --> 03:58:53.300 I don't know a cold banana is pretty darn good too. Maybe every fruit better cold 03:59:07.040 --> 03:59:09.040 Cold fruit is just really good 03:59:17.760 --> 03:59:26.920 Cold fruit was my nickname in high school. 03:59:26.920 --> 03:59:27.920 What what why? 03:59:27.920 --> 03:59:28.920 What did it mean? 03:59:58.920 --> 04:00:00.920 I 04:00:00.920 --> 04:00:02.920 I 04:00:02.920 --> 04:00:32.760 guys we're locked in here we got keep moving forward 04:00:32.760 --> 04:00:39.280 We're gonna lock this in and dial it. We gotta keep moving. We're almost there. I'm gonna keep eating this apple 04:00:39.280 --> 04:00:41.640 We got this. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. There we go 04:00:42.600 --> 04:00:44.600 Good. Yes 04:00:45.320 --> 04:00:48.480 Very clean. Yes. Good job team 04:00:52.600 --> 04:00:56.920 Mm-hmm, yeah, this is good very good 04:01:00.440 --> 04:01:02.440 Very very very good 04:01:02.760 --> 04:01:24.640 This is not stream or privilege. 04:01:24.640 --> 04:01:31.240 I'm sure half the people here have someone else on autofollow eating apples. 04:01:31.240 --> 04:01:33.240 I would assume that's the case. 04:01:50.620 --> 04:01:53.740 Alright, so let's get the book first and then Desolism will fly out of here. 04:01:54.740 --> 04:01:55.740 So book first. 04:01:55.740 --> 04:02:03.460 Look first. 04:02:03.460 --> 04:02:08.900 Might as well. 04:02:08.900 --> 04:02:11.820 It's more efficient. 04:02:11.820 --> 04:02:14.700 Stop normalizing eating apples with napkins. 04:02:14.700 --> 04:02:17.540 I don't want my keyboard to get all sticky. 04:02:17.540 --> 04:02:20.700 Sorry if you like a sticky keyboard, but I don't. 04:02:20.700 --> 04:02:23.540 So I'll keep the juices on the apple. 04:02:23.540 --> 04:02:26.820 I don't want my hands getting all choosed up, all right? 04:02:30.540 --> 04:02:34.980 Hey, hey, man, if you like us, Jicky keyboard, don't use a napkin. Fun. 04:02:45.340 --> 04:02:46.460 Just wash your hands. 04:02:47.060 --> 04:02:49.420 But then I have to go AFK to do that. 04:02:49.980 --> 04:02:52.900 We're min-maxing and dialing in. 04:02:53.540 --> 04:03:00.020 down time on the stream every time we go A of K it's like water bathroom apple 04:03:00.020 --> 04:03:05.460 napkin you know I'm saying 04:03:08.860 --> 04:03:13.020 all right it's good 04:03:13.020 --> 04:03:24.000 I'm gonna stand up guys. That's it. I'm standing up 04:03:25.920 --> 04:03:31.140 What's my favorite kind of coffee I'm a I'm an espresso guy I do a double shot espresso every single day 04:03:34.420 --> 04:03:37.100 You an apple with a spoon in a bowl. No, what? 04:03:39.140 --> 04:03:41.140 All right, we're standing up man 04:03:41.980 --> 04:03:46.640 Guys look I spilled water on myself. All right, this is a soap 04:03:50.900 --> 04:03:54.020 Play like this for a little bit. Oh, yeah, it'll try 04:03:55.580 --> 04:03:59.860 All right guys, we have to kill these burning plate add-ups. We can't run from this everybody pile it in 04:04:01.420 --> 04:04:05.380 Hunters tanks healers a ease big down 04:04:11.140 --> 04:04:15.140 Same height sitting or standing 04:04:20.780 --> 04:04:22.780 Okay 04:04:26.540 --> 04:04:32.720 Miss miss miss miss yeah mages are never really that good at killing high-level mobs 04:04:34.300 --> 04:04:38.100 Hunters are hunters and rogues are always really good at like killing high-level mobs 04:04:41.140 --> 04:04:50.300 Mages always just miss. 04:04:50.300 --> 04:04:52.820 Many people fell behind in the charred veil. 04:04:52.820 --> 04:04:57.820 Yeah, we can wait a bit here. 04:04:57.820 --> 04:05:08.340 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's a shrew that came out of nowhere. 04:05:08.340 --> 04:05:14.660 I don't know where this thing is. 04:05:14.660 --> 04:05:36.820 Has anyone done this one yet? 04:05:36.820 --> 04:05:37.820 Beautiful. 04:05:37.820 --> 04:05:39.820 Hey, Tsar, you spilled some water on your shirt? 04:05:41.100 --> 04:05:42.100 Thanks for letting me know. 04:05:45.300 --> 04:05:48.660 Are you gonna do a hardcore challenge your first playthrough? I don't think so. 04:05:51.940 --> 04:05:54.820 I mean, you can transfer your character on death. 04:05:55.260 --> 04:05:58.460 What I could do is start on a hardcore realm 04:05:58.900 --> 04:06:00.900 and try to hit 60 without dying. 04:06:01.820 --> 04:06:04.820 And then if I die transfer to the PvP and play normally, 04:06:04.980 --> 04:06:06.580 I actually could do... 04:06:06.580 --> 04:06:09.700 Oh wait, no, it's not on launch. Never mind. It's not on launch, guys. It's not on launch. 04:06:09.700 --> 04:06:12.580 If it was on launch, that would maybe be an option, but yeah, no, it's not even on launch. 04:06:13.220 --> 04:06:18.420 It's coming like six months later or three months later, like they said, winter, January, February, 04:06:18.420 --> 04:06:24.820 something. Yeah. If it did, if it did come out on launch, I don't even know if I would do that 04:06:24.820 --> 04:06:30.740 anyway though. Like the thing about hardcore is like, I love it, but when a new version of WoW comes out, 04:06:30.740 --> 04:06:35.740 Like I want to die. I want to like, I want to push the limits. 04:06:35.740 --> 04:06:36.860 I don't want to play afraid. 04:06:36.860 --> 04:06:44.060 I want to like run in and like do crazy stuff and like see what I can do and test and like do stuff like this. 04:06:44.060 --> 04:06:46.940 Like something like this I would be too afraid to do on hardcore probably. 04:06:48.700 --> 04:06:52.420 Or like go in world PvP and run into Orgammar and die. 04:06:52.420 --> 04:06:53.940 Like you want like, you know what I mean? 04:06:53.940 --> 04:06:56.860 Like I think I would almost miss the experience of playing normal. 04:06:57.260 --> 04:06:59.060 So even if I could, I don't think I would. 04:07:00.740 --> 04:07:13.620 But later, I think it would be really fun to do that. 04:07:13.620 --> 04:07:17.660 I just came in from the Arcane Missile Short, I'm hyped for that, little jokes on you, 04:07:17.660 --> 04:07:19.420 vegan waffle. 04:07:19.420 --> 04:07:28.780 It's a bug and it's being fixed, alright? 04:07:28.780 --> 04:07:33.420 It seems odd to segregate the audience so soon as hardcore seems like a thing to add a year later at the minimum 04:07:33.740 --> 04:07:38.740 When do you guys think they should add hardcore like there's a real argument that they could wait longer? 04:07:38.740 --> 04:07:41.860 Yeah, wait like a whole year. I don't I mean, I don't know 04:07:44.580 --> 04:07:46.580 They're already waiting by the way I 04:07:47.620 --> 04:07:49.620 Don't know how long I 04:07:50.140 --> 04:07:53.540 Kind of agree waiting longer kind of makes sense 04:07:53.540 --> 04:08:08.620 Alright so let's just wait for people and then the next one we're going to is there's 04:08:08.620 --> 04:08:12.380 one in Thousand Needles and there's also another one in Teneris in the pirate camp. 04:08:12.380 --> 04:08:23.180 The pirate camp one might be really hard to get though. 04:08:23.180 --> 04:08:27.140 The pirate camp one might be really hard to get, that is a lot of pirates. 04:08:27.140 --> 04:08:30.860 Yeah, maybe I'll skip Teneris. 04:08:30.860 --> 04:08:34.460 There's a Feralis one, there's an Azshara one. 04:08:34.460 --> 04:08:39.520 Thousand needles will probably be pretty easy, so let's do Thousand Needles for sure. 04:08:39.520 --> 04:08:45.780 After Thousand Needles there's also Dust Wallow. 04:08:45.780 --> 04:08:49.780 I think we could probably do Dust Wallow as well. 04:08:49.780 --> 04:08:52.780 So does swallow a thousand needles, two more there. 04:08:52.780 --> 04:08:57.340 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. 04:08:57.340 --> 04:09:06.100 We're at eleven. 04:09:06.100 --> 04:09:07.100 What is that on your shirt? 04:09:07.100 --> 04:09:09.100 Goodness gracious. 04:09:09.100 --> 04:09:13.500 Okay, I think we could probably start moving towards Desilis. 04:09:13.500 --> 04:09:17.020 Well, actually, you know, it's actually a little longer because we don't want anyone 04:09:17.020 --> 04:09:18.940 getting trapped in here and dying. 04:09:18.940 --> 04:09:20.940 Just wait a tad bit longer. 04:09:20.940 --> 04:09:23.260 Oh, is that everyone? 04:09:23.260 --> 04:09:26.140 Oh, is everyone already done? 04:09:26.140 --> 04:09:28.260 Oh, okay. 04:09:28.260 --> 04:09:29.260 I think we're good then. 04:09:29.260 --> 04:09:30.260 That was fast. 04:09:30.260 --> 04:09:31.260 Nice guys. 04:09:31.260 --> 04:09:32.260 Alright, yeah. 04:09:32.260 --> 04:09:34.300 We can move to Desilis and then get the flight path and then we'll fly... 04:09:34.300 --> 04:09:38.860 I mean, everyone should have Ratchet since that's where we came from, so we can go to 04:09:38.860 --> 04:09:44.860 Ratchet and then down to Dust Wall if we want. 04:09:44.860 --> 04:10:06.900 Oh, this flight path isn't connected, we'll see if it's not connected, that sucks. 04:10:06.900 --> 04:10:08.020 How many books in total? 04:10:08.020 --> 04:10:11.780 I think there, I don't know how many actually, there's more than enough though, I don't 04:10:11.780 --> 04:10:13.780 We have to get all of them 04:10:17.660 --> 04:10:21.540 There's one in Western plague lands like 04:10:26.700 --> 04:10:28.700 Eastern plague lands 04:10:30.620 --> 04:10:32.620 Lasted lands 04:10:38.100 --> 04:10:40.940 Yeah, very very true very very true 04:10:41.780 --> 04:10:53.580 Wait, did we miss one of the barons? 04:10:53.580 --> 04:10:55.980 I think we did all three in the barons, right? 04:10:55.980 --> 04:10:56.980 Sludgefen. 04:10:56.980 --> 04:11:00.420 Wait, did we miss one of the barons, guys? 04:11:00.420 --> 04:11:02.860 I thought we got all three. 04:11:02.860 --> 04:11:05.020 Someone said we missed one of the barons. 04:11:05.020 --> 04:11:08.660 Yeah, no, there was one in Ratchet, Sludgefen in here. 04:11:08.660 --> 04:11:09.660 No, we got all three. 04:11:09.660 --> 04:11:10.660 We got all three. 04:11:10.660 --> 04:11:17.540 How can you handle a three to five fucking rotation on major if you can't handle a G a 04:11:17.540 --> 04:11:21.900 lot of coconut water? 04:11:21.900 --> 04:11:24.900 Those are the real questions aren't they? 04:11:24.900 --> 04:11:30.620 Those are yeah that's true very true. 04:11:30.620 --> 04:11:53.740 true. I belong. Okay, let's see if this goes anywhere. Okay, next. Okay, we're good. 04:11:53.740 --> 04:12:06.820 Let me think let me just give just give me a second to think 04:12:23.740 --> 04:12:31.180 Did we get the moonbrook one? 04:12:31.180 --> 04:12:32.180 I know we got this one. 04:12:32.180 --> 04:12:33.740 I don't think we got the moonbrook one. 04:12:33.740 --> 04:12:34.740 Did we? 04:12:34.740 --> 04:12:35.740 Did we? 04:12:35.740 --> 04:12:41.140 Oh yeah, I know we did, we did. 04:12:41.140 --> 04:12:45.780 Okay, so there's two in lock mode on. 04:12:45.780 --> 04:12:47.460 Those are easy. 04:12:47.460 --> 04:12:49.460 Here is fall easy. 04:12:49.460 --> 04:12:58.340 One, two, three, four, five. 04:12:58.340 --> 04:13:07.180 Wetlands six. 04:13:07.180 --> 04:13:08.780 There's six more that should be pretty easy. 04:13:08.780 --> 04:13:09.780 How many do we have? 04:13:09.780 --> 04:13:13.460 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. 04:13:13.460 --> 04:13:14.460 We have eleven. 04:13:14.460 --> 04:13:15.460 We need twenty. 04:13:16.260 --> 04:13:18.260 So we have to go for some of the harder ones 04:13:18.940 --> 04:13:20.940 crap oh 04:13:21.580 --> 04:13:24.840 Darkshore is easy seven easy ones 04:13:27.820 --> 04:13:29.820 Eight nine 04:13:32.540 --> 04:13:35.260 Gosh ah guys 04:13:37.500 --> 04:13:39.500 What's the best thing to do here 04:13:45.460 --> 04:13:55.780 It's probably to hearth back and meet up in lock modon. 04:13:55.780 --> 04:14:00.620 We get the lock modon ones and we take the boat up to like south shore and then we go 04:14:00.620 --> 04:14:07.980 tiris fall, sylphur pine, sylphur pine. 04:14:07.980 --> 04:14:12.060 And then we hit wetlands in a rathy. 04:14:12.060 --> 04:14:13.060 That's probably what we do. 04:14:13.060 --> 04:14:27.660 probably hearth. Hearth and meetup and Loc Modon is probably the play. 04:14:43.060 --> 04:14:51.900 earth and send lock mode on yeah I don't know if this is optimal guys but it 04:14:51.900 --> 04:14:57.700 is what it is at least it yeah either there might be a better way to do this 04:14:57.700 --> 04:15:04.400 but if we go I'm gonna take the tram to iron forge and then get over to lock 04:15:04.400 --> 04:15:13.560 lock modon and then after that we can make our way up and do like the wetlands one and 04:15:13.560 --> 04:15:24.280 then do some tears fall ones, the brill one and then we'll reassess from there it'll probably 04:15:24.280 --> 04:15:33.080 be take the boat over and do dust swallow and thousand needles and then be done. 04:15:33.080 --> 04:15:38.080 We should do Lachmodan, Wetlands, Arathi and then Silverpine, yeah. 04:15:38.080 --> 04:15:47.640 Yeah, just kind of move our way up, yeah, yeah, Lachmodan into Wetlands and then Arathi 04:15:47.640 --> 04:15:48.640 one. 04:15:48.640 --> 04:15:59.640 Yeah, I think you're right. 04:15:59.640 --> 04:16:09.640 in my opinion, all of the non forever hardcore servers are gonna die. 04:16:09.640 --> 04:16:14.400 I think if forever is successful, they will. 04:16:14.400 --> 04:16:15.400 Yeah. 04:16:15.400 --> 04:16:20.320 In a sense, the only way they live is if forever doesn't do very well. 04:16:20.320 --> 04:16:23.840 Because we're gonna have hardcore forever. 04:16:23.840 --> 04:16:27.400 And I think the majority of players will play that. 04:16:27.400 --> 04:16:28.400 Who knows? 04:16:28.400 --> 04:16:57.680 the 04:16:57.680 --> 04:17:07.680 and 04:17:07.680 --> 04:17:09.680 it already killed TVC I was looking at the player numbers this morning this morning for raids 04:17:09.680 --> 04:17:14.680 and TVC 04:17:14.680 --> 04:17:25.680 , that was last week 04:17:25.680 --> 04:17:32.240 I don't I don't know I would assume I would assume it's just gonna like 04:17:32.240 --> 04:17:37.680 completely plummet I have a lot of killies who stated they have no interest 04:17:37.680 --> 04:17:43.120 in forever until hardcore launches I mean it's such an interesting like take 04:17:43.120 --> 04:17:49.280 like I love hardcore I've played so much hardcore but on a new version of Wow I 04:17:49.280 --> 04:17:57.260 I want to play it normal first. I really do. I want a PvP. I want to run into a city and die 04:17:57.260 --> 04:18:02.420 I want to mess around and find out like that's part of the joy of 04:18:03.180 --> 04:18:09.580 Classic plus, you know, and then I want to do hardcore to after so I mean, I don't know that's my take 04:18:09.580 --> 04:18:11.580 I don't know. It's not like I'm a 04:18:13.260 --> 04:18:16.700 Hardcore only gamer in the sense that like I'm just not gonna play unless it's hardcore 04:18:19.280 --> 04:18:40.800 I'm probably not going to do hardcore until I feel finished in forever for a bit, exactly. 04:18:40.800 --> 04:18:46.440 My warlock is still alive when you see him. 04:18:46.440 --> 04:18:49.240 If you're playing a mage at launch, is it possible you're going to play mage in only 04:18:49.240 --> 04:18:50.960 things three? 04:18:50.960 --> 04:18:52.520 Probably not. 04:18:52.520 --> 04:18:54.280 I would do something different. 04:18:54.280 --> 04:18:58.520 I always like to do something a little different, so. 04:18:58.520 --> 04:19:04.560 If I do mage at launch for my hardcore tune, probably something else. 04:19:04.560 --> 04:19:12.160 Oh my gosh, I just realized I don't even know if I have the lock mod on flight path. 04:19:12.160 --> 04:19:14.560 Have I been to Lock Mood on? 04:19:14.560 --> 04:19:16.040 I don't think I've been to Lock Mood on. 04:19:16.040 --> 04:19:18.420 I might have to run. 04:19:18.420 --> 04:19:21.320 I am like pretty sure I've never been. 04:19:21.320 --> 04:19:22.320 How's the neck doing? 04:19:22.320 --> 04:19:27.520 It's doing a little better. 04:19:27.520 --> 04:19:28.520 Lock Summon. 04:19:28.520 --> 04:19:33.960 If we have Lock Summons, then that's great. 04:19:33.960 --> 04:19:35.480 If not, I'll start running. 04:19:35.480 --> 04:19:46.480 I'm going to double check. 04:19:46.480 --> 04:19:56.040 Sushi roll, thanks for the prime. 04:19:56.040 --> 04:19:57.920 Yeah, I don't have the flight path. 04:19:57.920 --> 04:20:01.520 I'll start running, but if I can get a summon, that'll be cool too. 04:20:01.520 --> 04:20:10.360 Fly to Menethil and start wetlands or take the boat to Menethil. You got the flight path 04:20:10.360 --> 04:20:13.800 and you went to the understated. 04:20:13.800 --> 04:20:29.440 Oh, there's actually two in Lachmodan and one of them I already have. I still want to 04:20:29.440 --> 04:20:35.180 at the other one though. One of them in Log Modan is actually the same one as the one 04:20:35.180 --> 04:20:46.080 you get in Westfall. Interesting. FPS bug still? Yeah, it's so annoying, bro. 04:20:46.080 --> 04:21:03.140 I'm going to reload one more time before we leave. 04:21:03.140 --> 04:21:07.560 Level 30 will be next Thursday, so tomorrow I think there is a patch tomorrow though, 04:21:07.560 --> 04:21:23.400 a balancing thing. A lot of people are just running, huh? Oh, maybe that's a 04:21:23.400 --> 04:21:37.440 flight path actually. What do I want to see in the balance patch? Arcane Missile Fix, 04:21:37.440 --> 04:21:49.000 the Wand Fix, Hunter Fix, just bug fixes. I would like to see a balance pass for Racial's. 04:21:49.000 --> 04:21:54.080 I would like to see something for like end game major rotation, but that's that's not happening 04:21:54.160 --> 04:22:00.080 That's not happening tomorrow. I think hopefully the FPS bug fix the add-on save bug fix just bug fixes 04:22:00.080 --> 04:22:02.760 I guess I guess the biggest two would be the 04:22:03.240 --> 04:22:05.240 the FPS bug 04:22:05.640 --> 04:22:11.760 The memory leak the memory leak bug and then the add-on add-ons aren't saving if you guys are trying to use add-ons like add-ons not saving 04:22:11.760 --> 04:22:13.060 It's a big deal 04:22:13.060 --> 04:22:14.800 Especially if you're an add-on dev 04:22:14.800 --> 04:22:19.120 Those are probably the biggest to add on saving and memory leak and then like after that like a 04:22:19.760 --> 04:22:22.360 more balancing for ratios would be good and then 04:22:24.720 --> 04:22:27.220 Yeah, just other bug fixes like the missile bug and stuff 04:22:27.220 --> 04:22:45.720 Clarity thanks for the prime that's what a betas for you know like this is always the case when you play betas 04:22:45.720 --> 04:22:46.720 I get is what it is 04:22:46.720 --> 04:22:55.120 Classic UI update? I don't think they're gonna do anything like that tomorrow. I would be shocked. 04:22:55.120 --> 04:22:58.320 Imagine tomorrow there's a classic UI toggle. 04:22:58.320 --> 04:23:05.600 Patch tomorrow brings flying mounts. Mythic Plus upgraded world models. Dark port opens up. 04:23:05.600 --> 04:23:11.920 Jail revealed. Oh gosh, I... Oh, don't even... Imagine. 04:23:11.920 --> 04:23:19.920 Classic UI is not the priority. I actually agree. As much as I want the classic UI, I actually agree. 04:23:19.920 --> 04:23:28.920 There are more important things. There. I said it. Okay. It's a big deal, but you can get an add-on to fix it. 04:23:28.920 --> 04:23:32.920 And there are more important things. I would like it at some point though. I would. 04:23:32.920 --> 04:23:42.720 Look what wow post it on Twitter. Oh nice. We got a summon. Thanks guys. Good night folks. 04:23:42.720 --> 04:24:02.520 Yo, good night man. Oh, let me get the flight path. Oh my gosh. I almost forgot. Okay, so 04:24:02.520 --> 04:24:07.880 Ogres up here are where the book is. There's another one that Elsmarble already got it. If you missed the one in Westfall 04:24:07.880 --> 04:24:10.640 you can get it in here too, but most of us should have it. 04:24:12.520 --> 04:24:16.540 If any, we do have a couple spots in our group if anyone else wants to join as well. 04:24:19.080 --> 04:24:21.080 Send me a whisper. 04:24:21.080 --> 04:24:33.340 and 04:24:33.340 --> 04:24:40.580 we might be full again but the other rates might have room I think there's a couple of raids 04:24:40.580 --> 04:24:43.960 I don't know the names of the people in those raids, but. 04:24:47.400 --> 04:24:50.020 Once we get to this book over here, 04:24:50.020 --> 04:24:53.560 let's just wait a few minutes and see where everyone's at. 04:25:03.660 --> 04:25:05.220 Have I played Haunts? I have not. 04:25:05.220 --> 04:25:07.300 Have I created a tabard yet? No. 04:25:07.300 --> 04:25:09.200 Oh wait, dude guys, we have such a long to-do list. 04:25:09.200 --> 04:25:11.620 I do need to do that, so remind me. 04:25:15.320 --> 04:25:17.360 We're on different layers now, what? 04:25:23.720 --> 04:25:24.720 Are we actually? 04:25:24.720 --> 04:25:25.560 If we're on different layers, 04:25:25.560 --> 04:25:28.280 we might need to figure that out. 04:25:29.840 --> 04:25:31.120 Layers are tweaking. 04:25:31.120 --> 04:25:51.920 We need someone that is on our layer to invite the other raids over. 04:25:51.920 --> 04:25:52.920 I can. 04:25:52.920 --> 04:25:53.920 Oh, great. 04:25:53.920 --> 04:25:54.920 Yeah. 04:25:54.920 --> 04:25:58.120 This guy's name is W- thank you, bro. 04:25:58.120 --> 04:26:01.120 His name is Wajyan Main. 04:26:06.120 --> 04:26:09.120 Wajyan Main. He can make another raid. 04:26:09.120 --> 04:26:13.120 If you're in the other raids on another layer, he can invite you all and you can go from there. 04:26:19.120 --> 04:26:20.120 Why are you guys laughing? 04:26:20.120 --> 04:26:22.120 Wajyan... oh we... 04:26:23.120 --> 04:26:25.120 Did you stealth or did you get layered? I think you got layered. 04:26:25.120 --> 04:26:30.560 You didn't take a group invite did you? 04:26:30.560 --> 04:26:31.820 LouTV Raid is open. 04:26:31.820 --> 04:26:46.240 LouTV Raid, are you on the same layer though? 04:26:46.240 --> 04:26:49.520 All raids are on this layer, it's only our layer. 04:26:49.520 --> 04:26:57.260 Wait, hold on, let's just chill here for a second. 04:26:57.260 --> 04:27:01.340 If all of the other raids are on the other layer, I could leave, get an invite to the 04:27:01.340 --> 04:27:07.780 other layer and remake this group on that layer. 04:27:07.780 --> 04:27:16.520 Two. 04:27:16.520 --> 04:27:19.260 I got pulled to the other layer. 04:27:19.260 --> 04:27:28.820 their room. Oh crap. No, if I get invited, oh man, the layering is so troll. Um, one sec, 04:27:28.820 --> 04:27:39.460 I'm gonna give a launcher leader here. And then leave. No, I'm still on this layer. I 04:27:39.460 --> 04:27:42.460 I can get layered over, but then I can't invite all these guys. 04:27:44.960 --> 04:27:45.960 Let me see. 04:27:53.960 --> 04:27:55.960 Oh my gosh, this is so annoying. 04:27:55.960 --> 04:27:57.960 The layering is so annoying. 04:27:57.960 --> 04:27:59.960 I can invite to the other group. 04:28:02.460 --> 04:28:06.460 But if I leave this now, I get layered back to my other layer, right? 04:28:06.460 --> 04:28:13.660 Oh, no. 04:28:13.660 --> 04:28:18.380 Am I on this layer now? 04:28:18.380 --> 04:28:23.460 The other raid is here now. 04:28:23.460 --> 04:28:28.460 Okay, if you were in... 04:28:28.460 --> 04:28:29.460 This is the other layer. 04:28:29.460 --> 04:28:30.540 Yeah, okay, so we're good. 04:28:30.540 --> 04:28:33.820 If you were in my other group, send me a whisper and I can invite you guys all to this layer 04:28:33.820 --> 04:28:35.580 and then we'll move out from here. 04:28:35.980 --> 04:28:37.980 I'm here 04:28:39.020 --> 04:28:42.200 Yeah, there's a there's like 40 people on the other layer though now 04:28:42.940 --> 04:28:47.940 So hopefully yeah, so it took me back. Oh gosh guys 04:28:47.940 --> 04:28:53.180 I don't know how this is what we were trying to do in world TP the other day. This is so 04:28:54.040 --> 04:28:56.040 frustrating 04:28:56.040 --> 04:28:59.100 We leave party. Okay, so now I'm back on this layer 04:29:05.580 --> 04:29:10.860 Is there anyone not in a group who can infight others? 04:29:15.260 --> 04:29:17.740 I can't be the one to make the group because if I do I get layered. 04:29:22.300 --> 04:29:23.900 I tried and lost the layer. 04:29:23.900 --> 04:29:25.020 Goodness gracious. 04:29:29.180 --> 04:29:30.860 Oops, that was a duel. 04:29:35.580 --> 04:29:52.400 I legit don't know the move here we have half the players on this layer and then 04:29:52.400 --> 04:30:02.160 Okay, now on this layer again, goodness. 04:30:02.160 --> 04:30:04.680 I think there's more on the other layer though. 04:30:04.680 --> 04:30:09.440 Oh gosh, I don't want this layer. 04:30:09.440 --> 04:30:11.680 No one's on this one. 04:30:11.680 --> 04:30:12.680 Crap. 04:30:12.680 --> 04:30:17.200 Okay, I want to go back to the one with the most amount of people and then we need to 04:30:17.200 --> 04:30:24.280 try to just get more people on that layer. This one is the most. This one for sure is 04:30:24.280 --> 04:30:31.800 the most. Okay, so Squeak. Squeak? Give me a- make this a raid and give me assist. Make 04:30:31.800 --> 04:30:39.320 raid and give assist. This is the raid. This is the layer. If you can invite others, let 04:30:39.320 --> 04:30:40.760 Let me know your name. 04:30:40.760 --> 04:30:49.520 There's about 20 people on the other layer that need invites. 04:30:49.520 --> 04:30:54.080 Squeak, I am going to make all assists, but I'm going to give you leader. 04:30:54.080 --> 04:30:56.080 Hopefully this doesn't screw everything over. 04:31:11.780 --> 04:31:13.780 Okay, I think we solved it, man. 04:31:18.080 --> 04:31:23.080 I swear, for normal day-to-day interactions, the layering system works fine. 04:31:23.080 --> 04:31:29.640 But when you try to do like streamer events and you get like hundreds of people in the same spot it is so rough 04:31:53.080 --> 04:31:57.920 Okay, so my group's about to be full guys 04:31:59.140 --> 04:32:04.380 Which means there should be two or three other raids here with a couple spots 04:32:05.220 --> 04:32:07.560 Like we should have the same amount of people as before ish 04:32:10.280 --> 04:32:15.640 Okay, so my group's full is there anyone that has room anyone with room in a raid 04:32:15.640 --> 04:32:27.580 We have 17 spots. LouTV, whisper LouTV or five or six spots left in Sharon-E-Sher or LouTV. 04:32:27.580 --> 04:32:42.240 And you can get on this same layer. And Sharon-E-Sher. Probably start moving. Continue invites and start 04:32:42.240 --> 04:32:58.560 moving. Little janky but it works. What are we doing here? We're just farming books man. 04:33:01.920 --> 04:33:05.600 They need to find a way to link multiple raids so they all stay on the same layer. 04:33:05.600 --> 04:33:26.600 It's tough. I don't know. I don't even know. I don't know if they need to fix this. This is only a problem for streamers or if you're trying to coordinate, like, like a massive field event maybe, but this is like not going to affect 99% of the player base. 04:33:26.600 --> 04:33:32.920 base so it's really a non-issue as much as it sucks like for me it's not it's 04:33:32.920 --> 04:33:38.120 really like a non-issue. Did you see that auto-shot and one having no delays 04:33:38.120 --> 04:33:43.320 unintended of being fixed? Yeah yeah I think that's probably good like the the 04:33:43.320 --> 04:33:49.720 you don't want the pace of game moving up too fast as a mage of someone who uses 04:33:49.720 --> 04:33:54.960 wand a lot like I'm fine with that you know roll rose thanks for the tier one man 04:33:56.600 --> 04:34:06.560 Looks back full rest or should we rip side? I don't know. I don't look too much into 04:34:06.560 --> 04:34:19.360 shrewd like theorycrafting. Do you see the new rain coming into the beta? I've seen rain 04:34:19.360 --> 04:34:29.300 here and there I don't know if I noticed it was new. 04:34:29.300 --> 04:34:32.440 Anyone still have spots? 04:34:32.440 --> 04:34:39.780 I think there is still spots in a few of the raids. 04:34:39.780 --> 04:34:48.060 Oh it's on Twitter? 04:34:48.060 --> 04:34:51.100 new weather coming tomorrow oh my gosh all right i'll check that i'll check it in a minute 04:34:52.540 --> 04:34:53.260 i haven't seen that 04:34:59.100 --> 04:35:12.140 okay so there's one in here i think 04:35:18.060 --> 04:35:43.420 I don't know if it's like over here or in the back. 04:35:43.420 --> 04:35:44.900 Oh, on us. 04:35:52.660 --> 04:35:53.500 Oh, what is here? 04:35:53.500 --> 04:35:54.340 I just missed it. 04:36:05.700 --> 04:36:06.660 Okay. 04:36:06.660 --> 04:36:08.800 Does anyone have room? 04:36:13.420 --> 04:36:20.220 I think there's a few more people that want to join, but I don't know if anyone has spots in their aides 04:36:21.540 --> 04:36:24.340 15 spots and Lou it's still Lou TV guys Lou TV 04:36:24.860 --> 04:36:26.300 Lou TV 04:36:26.300 --> 04:36:28.580 LUI TV if you needed if you need to invite 04:36:39.580 --> 04:36:42.820 This has to be the worst way to farm books yeah, and yeah, it's all good though 04:36:43.420 --> 04:36:50.260 I'm stuck behind a wall and there's no unstuck menu. 04:36:50.260 --> 04:36:55.060 You can wait for your hearth, maybe. 04:36:55.060 --> 04:36:56.940 Okay. 04:36:56.940 --> 04:37:05.820 I'm going to see where we're going next. 04:37:05.820 --> 04:37:09.060 There's one in the Arathi Highlands and there's one in Wetlands. 04:37:09.060 --> 04:37:11.620 I think we run up to wetlands and we run up to Arathi. 04:37:16.420 --> 04:37:18.780 Well, wait a minute for people here to finish getting these though. 04:37:39.060 --> 04:37:47.200 Oh yeah, let's take a look at the weather while people are getting more of these too. 04:37:47.200 --> 04:37:51.700 Put a cloak on, increase weather effects, or come into a certain WoW forever beta zone 04:37:51.700 --> 04:37:52.700 soon. 04:37:52.700 --> 04:37:56.700 That's loud. 04:37:56.700 --> 04:37:59.700 Dude. 04:37:59.700 --> 04:38:19.220 Like the environment team like the water and the lighting and the shadows it's like yeah guys. Yes, this is amazing 04:38:19.220 --> 04:38:24.520 But there's like so many other things that it's like whoever is do whatever team is on this is 04:38:24.520 --> 04:38:31.140 It's just crushing it so much like they're going so far above and beyond like no one even asked for this and it's awesome 04:38:34.460 --> 04:38:36.460 This team is is doing a great job 04:38:41.380 --> 04:38:43.380 This is right this is right I 04:38:49.260 --> 04:38:53.540 Like how they use the SD character models and all of the promo footage 04:38:54.520 --> 04:38:56.520 W blizzard 04:38:56.920 --> 04:39:01.000 Okay, W. All right, let's move to 04:39:02.040 --> 04:39:04.040 wetlands than a rathy 04:39:24.520 --> 04:39:45.880 I'll crush you. 04:39:45.880 --> 04:39:53.880 We're just running around the world and gathering books slash exploring, I suppose. 04:39:53.880 --> 04:40:05.160 Why don't you install Plater? 04:40:05.160 --> 04:40:06.440 I just like the default ones. 04:40:06.440 --> 04:40:11.080 Well, actually, I don't like the default ones, so I'm using an add-on to make them look like 04:40:11.080 --> 04:40:13.680 the old default ones. 04:40:13.680 --> 04:40:15.680 Yeah 04:40:21.200 --> 04:40:23.200 Check out the top of the dam, okay 04:40:24.920 --> 04:40:28.680 Do you miss your lung hair? No, I'm not really it was kind of annoying 04:40:38.640 --> 04:40:40.640 Okay 04:40:40.640 --> 04:40:52.080 I don't even have my graphics on the high settings anymore because I was like tweaking 04:40:52.080 --> 04:41:01.280 things to try to fix my thing, my lag. 04:41:01.280 --> 04:41:06.880 We could probably just jump down here, right? 04:41:06.880 --> 04:41:12.240 I'm going wait that way that guy's gonna die 04:41:13.120 --> 04:41:15.720 Don't jump guys. Don't jump. Oh 04:41:18.120 --> 04:41:20.120 No, oh 04:41:21.240 --> 04:41:25.320 God guys. No, I'm a mage. I get oh 04:41:26.920 --> 04:41:29.600 That's not what it was supposed to happen 04:41:30.600 --> 04:41:34.640 Okay, we're gonna need some res is couple people miss the jump here. Oh 04:41:34.640 --> 04:41:36.640 Oh gosh 04:41:37.540 --> 04:41:42.360 No, I did not bait that that's not on me someone else jumped in that I'm a mage 04:41:42.360 --> 04:41:45.760 So I was gonna check it out and see how it was for you guys 04:41:45.760 --> 04:41:47.640 Now I jumped and I knew it was bad 04:41:47.640 --> 04:41:53.300 So I was saying don't jump and then everyone that did jump like that a hundred percent is not on me now 04:41:54.120 --> 04:41:57.160 Good job guys though everyone that jumped into the water. That's what's up 04:41:57.440 --> 04:42:00.940 We do need some resurrects for the for the dead though. That is brutal 04:42:00.940 --> 04:42:05.860 Wait, how did the people that made it in the water make that jump? 04:42:05.860 --> 04:42:11.140 That's a big jump. 04:42:11.140 --> 04:42:12.140 Send your repair bill. 04:42:12.140 --> 04:42:16.600 Uh, yeah, I think, I think Pekaboo said he'd cover the repair bills on that one. 04:42:16.600 --> 04:42:22.740 Just send him some in-game mail, I'm sure that'll be fine. 04:42:22.740 --> 04:42:28.860 Oh, jump number two, huh? 04:42:28.860 --> 04:42:36.180 The weakest things went from and now we have an answer if Zard jumped off a bridge would 04:42:36.180 --> 04:42:39.580 you join him? 04:42:39.580 --> 04:42:44.100 This view is amazing let's see it. 04:42:44.100 --> 04:42:48.020 Oh heck yeah. 04:42:48.020 --> 04:42:58.340 Scale Vein Royal Guard Wow it looked like I was going to fall to my 04:42:58.340 --> 04:43:00.340 death, and then I didn't. 04:43:19.780 --> 04:43:21.780 Let's see if we can make this last jump. 04:43:21.780 --> 04:43:28.480 Wait, where are we even going here? 04:43:28.480 --> 04:43:31.780 Oh yeah, excavation site. 04:43:31.780 --> 04:43:32.780 Ooh. 04:43:32.780 --> 04:43:33.780 Oh, God! 04:43:33.780 --> 04:43:34.780 Oh, oh, oh! 04:43:34.780 --> 04:43:35.780 Go! 04:43:35.780 --> 04:43:36.780 Oh, guys! 04:43:36.780 --> 04:43:37.780 Oh, my gosh! 04:43:37.780 --> 04:43:38.780 Oh, God! 04:43:38.780 --> 04:43:39.780 Oh, God! 04:43:39.780 --> 04:43:40.780 Oh, God! 04:43:40.780 --> 04:43:41.780 Oh, God! 04:43:41.780 --> 04:43:42.780 Oh, God! 04:43:42.780 --> 04:43:43.780 Oh, God! 04:43:43.780 --> 04:43:44.780 Oh, God! 04:43:44.780 --> 04:43:45.780 Oh, God! 04:43:45.780 --> 04:43:46.780 Oh, God! 04:43:46.780 --> 04:43:47.780 Oh, God! 04:43:47.780 --> 04:43:48.780 Oh, God! 04:43:48.780 --> 04:43:49.780 Oh, God! 04:43:49.780 --> 04:43:50.780 Oh, God! 04:43:50.780 --> 04:43:52.780 gosh 04:43:59.020 --> 04:44:03.420 I mean, I'm just a mage. I don't know if there's like a way to do this as a non mage 04:44:04.940 --> 04:44:11.580 Terrible idea to do the jumps guys. We should have just gone around. Oh my gosh the lighting looks so good 04:44:11.580 --> 04:44:25.820 Very bad idea very very bad idea to do the jump it would have been much quicker to run around 04:44:25.820 --> 04:44:43.940 So we're gonna we're gonna just kind of chill and wait for the for them to run back 04:44:43.940 --> 04:44:48.940 back. That's the move. 04:44:56.940 --> 04:45:01.940 There's another raid that got layered again. 04:45:01.940 --> 04:45:07.940 Should we just start doing the runs on two layers? Dude, I don't even know. It is so annoying. 04:45:07.940 --> 04:45:11.940 Yeah, I do not have a Facebook page. It's the fake one. You could report it. 04:45:11.940 --> 04:45:17.300 a different layer again. I'm trying to think of the best way to re-re-layer here. 04:45:21.140 --> 04:45:26.740 Showback needs your help, dude. I think we have le- we probably have like an hour left of this. 04:45:26.740 --> 04:45:30.660 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 04:45:30.660 --> 04:45:58.660 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. 04:45:58.660 --> 04:46:03.100 Okay, yeah, no, it's two hours, we had two hours left of this. 04:46:03.100 --> 04:46:04.480 Wow. 04:46:04.480 --> 04:46:06.180 Yeah, yeah, wow. 04:46:09.840 --> 04:46:12.480 Real talk, I did not think it would take this long. 04:46:14.000 --> 04:46:17.220 Real talk, I really thought this would not take this long. 04:46:24.340 --> 04:46:26.140 Yeah, a lot of the people are resting right now. 04:46:26.140 --> 04:46:27.980 I still kinda wanna wait for people. 04:46:28.660 --> 04:46:40.900 He does not only spawn at night 04:46:40.900 --> 04:46:47.820 people warn you about that yeah this is definitely more like a one-and-done on 04:46:47.820 --> 04:46:56.020 And alts were definitely not doing this, but... 04:46:56.020 --> 04:46:58.020 I do have... 04:46:58.020 --> 04:47:15.340 Like, three spots in the raid if anyone else wants to come in, but... 04:47:15.340 --> 04:47:32.540 We need to figure out a way to get that other raid on our lair. 04:47:32.540 --> 04:47:35.620 Wakya main says I'm on the other lair. 04:47:35.620 --> 04:47:36.620 Do you have room? 04:47:36.620 --> 04:47:38.820 Oh, he's on the other lair. 04:47:38.820 --> 04:47:39.820 Shoot. 04:47:39.820 --> 04:47:43.100 We need someone on our lair that's not in our raid. 04:47:43.100 --> 04:47:44.100 Like this guy. 04:47:44.100 --> 04:47:45.100 Ozzy. 04:47:45.100 --> 04:47:46.900 Aussie Hunts. 04:47:46.900 --> 04:47:48.780 This Aussie Hunts, make a group. 04:47:48.780 --> 04:47:50.900 Everyone whisper Aussie Hunts. 04:47:52.300 --> 04:47:53.580 This guy's out of a raid. 04:47:53.580 --> 04:47:54.980 He can be the other leader. 04:47:56.780 --> 04:47:58.160 Aussie Hunts. 04:47:59.100 --> 04:48:02.020 If you guys want, I'm on your layer, cool. 04:48:02.020 --> 04:48:04.420 If you guys need a layer, Aussie Hunts is the guy. 04:48:12.940 --> 04:48:14.380 He stopped running, but he's the guy. 04:48:14.380 --> 04:48:29.060 He can get you on our lair. 04:48:29.060 --> 04:48:34.060 He stopped running Ozzyons, you gotta keep running brother. 04:48:34.060 --> 04:48:40.100 So we're going to the excavation site and then move up to our apathy. 04:48:40.100 --> 04:48:47.380 Since guild bank is unlocked for forever. What do you think that means for SF hardcore guild found could be unlocked? 04:48:47.780 --> 04:48:50.380 Keep up the good work my guy less than three 04:48:53.100 --> 04:48:55.100 Gild found would be a cool option. I didn't think of that 04:48:55.820 --> 04:48:57.180 Yeah 04:48:57.180 --> 04:49:01.660 For like only things you could do something where you guild banks are allowed. Oh, that'd be nice 04:49:02.180 --> 04:49:06.820 Yeah, very cool stuff there. I didn't think about it for hardcore like the implications pretty red 04:49:10.100 --> 04:49:16.700 Where's the daily smoothie at it's usually not for like another hour 04:49:30.820 --> 04:49:35.580 Okay, I see Hans is back I'm gonna ask him how many spots do you have? 04:49:40.100 --> 04:49:43.220 Have you seen the rain trailer? Yeah, it looks sick 04:49:45.740 --> 04:49:48.140 Should I eat my apple with a paper towel? Yeah 04:49:51.860 --> 04:49:56.040 Ozzy hunts has 20 spots left guys if you still need room Ozzy hunts 04:49:58.460 --> 04:50:00.460 20 more spots 04:50:00.460 --> 04:50:10.460 Hello! Thanks for the bits! Equino, thanks for the prime! 04:50:10.460 --> 04:50:21.460 You guys, I think you guys can hear Kai's having a little moment. 04:50:21.460 --> 04:50:29.460 Same, yeah. I thought that was Pika, true. 04:50:29.460 --> 04:50:32.340 Please recover the gold they stole from us. Are you talking about the auction house? 04:50:36.740 --> 04:50:38.740 Why is everyone typing an N.Y.A. 04:50:39.940 --> 04:50:45.140 Those are legit just bots. Did everyone, guys, you're all self-reporting as a bot. 04:50:45.140 --> 04:50:48.100 Why are you guys doing the N.Y.A.? What the heck's going on? 04:50:49.220 --> 04:50:54.340 This way for the excavation site. Guys, we're not doing a giveaway. 04:50:57.140 --> 04:50:58.740 Oh, am I getting raided? 04:50:59.460 --> 04:51:04.340 It's for Spain. It's the Spanish community. Oh, I'm getting raided. Oh, I thought you guys were boss 04:51:05.340 --> 04:51:07.260 Wait, are you guys bots? 04:51:07.260 --> 04:51:09.100 It's for Spain 04:51:09.100 --> 04:51:11.100 Love to Spain 04:51:12.260 --> 04:51:18.140 Argentina, okay, what's actually going on are these bots are we getting raided because I don't see any raid. I don't know I 04:51:19.020 --> 04:51:22.940 Love from Spain. I am so confused. I 04:51:25.300 --> 04:51:27.300 Am so confused guys 04:51:29.460 --> 04:51:36.740 Spain Argentina 04:51:40.740 --> 04:51:43.500 Can anyone explain what's happening I can't 04:51:49.860 --> 04:51:56.040 It looks like the item is around here somewhere we do need guys we do need to lock in and kill these 04:51:56.980 --> 04:51:58.980 This is gonna be raw 04:51:59.460 --> 04:52:07.900 They kill us on me. 04:52:07.900 --> 04:52:11.780 They kill us on me. 04:52:11.780 --> 04:52:12.780 Nice work, squad. 04:52:12.780 --> 04:52:16.780 Nice work. 04:52:16.780 --> 04:52:23.180 Yay. 04:52:23.180 --> 04:52:27.580 The Spanish streamers and community horde have a mega raid and are fighting show back 04:52:27.580 --> 04:52:29.580 and they're coming to wetlands right now. 04:52:29.580 --> 04:52:33.580 The N.A. is a symbol from a Spanish language to say we're here. 04:52:34.580 --> 04:52:40.580 Oh, Spain is coming for you. Oh, they're trying to gank us right now. 04:52:44.580 --> 04:52:48.580 Oh, okay, that took me a little while, guys. That took me a little while. 04:52:48.580 --> 04:52:50.580 Alright, everybody get the scroll. 04:52:51.580 --> 04:52:53.580 Let's wait for everyone else to get the scroll. 04:52:53.580 --> 04:52:56.580 Where to next? We're going up to a raffy, but we got to be on the lookout 04:52:56.580 --> 04:53:02.340 be on the lookout because Spain is out for us or something. 04:53:02.340 --> 04:53:08.260 Arathi's up next. 04:53:08.260 --> 04:53:09.780 The Spanish are coming. 04:53:09.780 --> 04:53:11.780 Yeah. 04:53:11.780 --> 04:53:14.300 Okay. 04:53:14.300 --> 04:53:15.300 Does everyone have it already? 04:53:15.300 --> 04:53:16.300 That was fast. 04:53:16.300 --> 04:53:17.300 Buff up? 04:53:17.300 --> 04:53:19.220 Yeah, actually good calling the buffs. 04:53:19.220 --> 04:53:20.740 Wait, does everyone have it? 04:53:20.740 --> 04:53:21.740 No one else needs it. 04:53:21.740 --> 04:53:22.740 Wow, that was quick. 04:53:22.740 --> 04:53:26.020 Was I like the last one there or something? 04:53:26.020 --> 04:53:28.220 If anyone needs a layer, message. 04:53:28.220 --> 04:53:30.940 Ah crap, Aussie hunts. 04:53:30.940 --> 04:53:33.060 Aussie hunts for the layer. 04:53:33.060 --> 04:53:37.420 Spelled the usual way, A-U-S-S-I-E hunts. 04:53:44.140 --> 04:53:46.020 Oh he's right here, yeah Aussie hunts if you guys need him. 04:53:46.020 --> 04:53:48.420 I think he stole some room on his layer. 04:53:48.420 --> 04:53:51.020 And we're just gonna move up through a rathy guys. 04:53:56.020 --> 04:54:03.820 I was trying Aussie sorry Aussie there's names right here on the screen Aussie hunts Aussie hunts 04:54:26.020 --> 04:54:28.620 See this bag nice 04:54:30.020 --> 04:54:36.820 Dude, there's so many things you could do a little 20 efforts. You're like see this bag. Yeah, like best-in-slot bags 04:54:38.820 --> 04:54:43.580 Genuine question why does your game look bad? I turned all my graphics settings to like low 04:54:46.820 --> 04:54:53.060 Basically to try to make my game not lag as much the game looks way better when you turn everything on ultra I 04:54:53.060 --> 04:55:00.420 I just like my game was looking way better, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the likes I was tweaking settings 04:55:00.420 --> 04:55:02.420 I could put it back, but 04:55:04.500 --> 04:55:08.900 Yeah, there's some like memory leak and I was like it's affecting my computer a lot 04:55:08.900 --> 04:55:15.160 I don't know about you guys, but like normally I'll play on like infinite FPS. So even the play on like 60 FPS is weird 04:55:16.180 --> 04:55:18.180 Sounds like trying to figure out 04:55:23.060 --> 04:55:42.220 It's affecting everyone. Yeah, it's brutal. Moa, thanks for the Prime. Memory leak is 04:55:42.220 --> 04:55:50.180 a CPU issue, not GPU, so graphic settings wouldn't change much. Is that true? I mean, 04:55:50.180 --> 04:55:55.260 Yeah I could definitely put some of these back higher. 04:55:55.260 --> 04:55:57.700 The game definitely looks way better when these are turned up. 04:55:57.700 --> 04:55:59.700 I mean instantly right away. 04:55:59.700 --> 04:56:00.700 It's like holy crap. 04:56:00.700 --> 04:56:03.860 But now my FPS is like even worse. 04:56:03.860 --> 04:56:06.700 That's why I was like should I... 04:56:06.700 --> 04:56:11.900 Oh my FPS is 65. 04:56:11.900 --> 04:56:25.160 you smell the same. Be careful. You might see some HD textures. Guys, is this some weird 04:56:25.160 --> 04:56:29.240 straw man argument of something that I never said, but you guys think that I said because 04:56:29.240 --> 04:56:35.480 you misunderstand what's going on? Like, what do you mean? Be careful. You might see HD 04:56:35.480 --> 04:56:47.440 is good and is gracious yeah so anyway I like these are graphics not even on full 04:56:47.440 --> 04:56:52.440 these are on eight but like how good does it look now shadows are back actually 04:56:52.440 --> 04:56:58.240 the one thing I don't like is bloom or bloom rather bloom is like the one thing 04:56:58.240 --> 04:57:03.520 I actually just think doesn't look good like I even on high graphics bloom off I 04:57:03.520 --> 04:57:04.860 I think it looks better. 04:57:04.860 --> 04:57:07.120 Bloom just makes the game look like blurry. 04:57:09.700 --> 04:57:10.540 I don't like it. 04:57:17.740 --> 04:57:20.260 Na na na na na. 04:57:20.260 --> 04:57:21.260 All right. 04:57:21.260 --> 04:57:22.100 All right, we have next, 04:57:22.100 --> 04:57:23.540 we're going to Witherbark Village over here 04:57:23.540 --> 04:57:25.660 on the east side, guys. 04:57:33.520 --> 04:57:37.520 Is the Spanish Inquisition cancelled? I don't know. I don't know if they're still coming for us or what. 04:57:44.000 --> 04:57:46.000 Joven is coming for ya. 04:57:48.400 --> 04:57:53.600 Alright, we'll see what happens. Guys, we're very peaceful like book collectors, man. 04:57:54.160 --> 04:57:58.320 We're literally just playing for fun, collecting books. I don't know why you guys are trying to kill us, but 04:57:58.880 --> 04:58:00.880 if you're trying to fight, 04:58:00.880 --> 04:58:06.640 We'll fight, you know what I mean? I mean we're gonna fight it out, but like we're literally just collecting books out here guys 04:58:13.080 --> 04:58:19.260 They they have literal hundreds of people the classic horde outnumbering us. Oh 04:58:22.600 --> 04:58:24.600 Wow, there's a whole nother raid here 04:58:25.440 --> 04:58:29.940 Hey, yo, I think that's a different raid 04:58:30.880 --> 04:58:42.000 So we'll just go like this and then like cut across get the book and then cut back 04:58:42.000 --> 04:58:50.680 Yo Iggy 50 gifted subs. Thank you very much. I don't know where Iggy 04:58:50.680 --> 04:58:56.040 I don't know what I did to deserve that but welcome in and enjoy not watching ads and thank you very much 04:58:56.040 --> 04:58:58.040 You rock. 04:58:59.680 --> 04:59:05.660 Iggy says hey chat. Hey, hey Iggy. Thank you. You're the top gifter of the day. There we go. 04:59:09.040 --> 04:59:15.080 Josh Stryfe haze with the raid. Wow guys people are really showing love today. Josh, I don't know if you're still here. 04:59:15.080 --> 04:59:18.140 Thank you very much for the raid. I absolutely love the content. 04:59:18.800 --> 04:59:23.860 Did you get your YouTube monetization thing figured out Josh? I saw that you were having some issues with that. 04:59:26.040 --> 04:59:35.520 enemy pub in game wait are you are you next to me new blue post all right 04:59:35.520 --> 04:59:40.000 check it in a sec I don't know if Josh is still here but thank you for the raid 04:59:40.000 --> 04:59:47.880 Josh okay so we want to go like this away it's a true thing textures for some 04:59:47.880 --> 04:59:53.520 FPS fix golden capitrate incoming oh we're on a g-cap there we go 04:59:53.520 --> 04:59:56.400 Oh, projected textures disabled. 04:59:56.400 --> 04:59:57.600 Okay, I did it. 04:59:57.600 --> 04:59:58.920 I don't know if I did much, but. 04:59:58.920 --> 05:00:01.120 LuTV has raid spots too, guys, sick. 05:00:03.280 --> 05:00:04.760 Nice, nice. 05:00:04.760 --> 05:00:07.800 Level nine golden capitrain, it's a little G-Cat. 05:00:13.280 --> 05:00:14.120 All right. 05:00:16.720 --> 05:00:20.520 LuTV has raid spots and Ozzy Hunts has raid spots, I think. 05:00:20.520 --> 05:00:22.880 Dude, we have people out here 05:00:22.880 --> 05:00:24.200 They want the book, huh? 05:00:24.200 --> 05:00:25.780 Yo, this is actually just so cool. 05:00:25.780 --> 05:00:27.360 Oh my gosh. 05:00:27.360 --> 05:00:28.280 I love it. 05:00:29.720 --> 05:00:32.000 Is there actually a new blue post too? 05:00:32.000 --> 05:00:34.040 I'm so over-stimmed, it's ridiculous. 05:00:35.520 --> 05:00:38.120 The increased weather effects, yeah, we just saw that. 05:00:39.240 --> 05:00:40.080 That's rad. 05:00:41.360 --> 05:00:42.200 Rad. 05:00:49.560 --> 05:00:50.900 Rad, da, da, da. 05:00:52.880 --> 05:00:59.780 Do you think engineering needs an overhaul in the future? 05:00:59.780 --> 05:01:02.260 Um, maybe not. 05:01:02.260 --> 05:01:06.820 Engineering might still be the best in PvP, it might still be the best for certain raids 05:01:06.820 --> 05:01:08.800 like snap thread on tanks. 05:01:08.800 --> 05:01:13.760 I think the idea is they want engineering to be good but not the thing that you automatically 05:01:13.760 --> 05:01:16.080 always pick. 05:01:16.080 --> 05:01:17.320 Right now, maybe we're at that. 05:01:17.320 --> 05:01:18.320 I don't know. 05:01:18.320 --> 05:01:20.400 We'll have to, like only time will tell. 05:01:20.400 --> 05:01:24.240 A lot of the other professions got love, but that's because engineering was already so darn good. 05:01:28.160 --> 05:01:32.880 Like, people have to really keep that in mind. Like, warriors didn't get that many changes, 05:01:32.880 --> 05:01:38.720 but at the same time, warriors are kind of the gold standard of what a good class feels like 05:01:39.360 --> 05:01:44.960 in terms of, you know, rotationally and strength. Like, it feels really good to play a warrior, 05:01:44.960 --> 05:01:48.960 so you bring them up. You bring everything else up to warrior. You bring everything else up to 05:01:48.960 --> 05:01:53.000 engineering you bring everything else up to the gold standard but the gold 05:01:53.000 --> 05:01:55.640 standard you don't necessarily need to bring up itself because then you'd have 05:01:55.640 --> 05:01:58.120 to bring up everything even more and that's power creep you don't want to do 05:01:58.120 --> 05:02:02.940 that wow it's dark in here all right so we should probably start killing some of 05:02:02.940 --> 05:02:07.160 these because the book is somewhat nearby I don't know where it is exactly but 05:02:07.160 --> 05:02:11.680 it's around here somewhere I can't see anything guys it's too dark in here 05:02:11.680 --> 05:02:15.200 someone hold me it's probably right there 05:02:18.960 --> 05:02:27.520 There's actually like a surprising little amount of lag for this many players though. 05:02:27.520 --> 05:02:30.080 Like surprisingly little amount of lag. 05:02:30.080 --> 05:02:33.020 Okay, we want heals going out guys. 05:02:33.020 --> 05:02:38.660 Heals and damage before looting because there's a lot of mobs and they're all high level. 05:02:38.660 --> 05:02:40.960 We need to lock in here. 05:02:40.960 --> 05:02:41.960 Kill first. 05:02:41.960 --> 05:02:44.240 Yeah, we need everyone's help here. 05:02:44.240 --> 05:02:46.560 Mainly the hunters and the rogues are the ones that actually hit. 05:02:46.560 --> 05:02:48.560 I'm just spam missing, but still. 05:02:54.240 --> 05:02:57.240 What are we doing? We're collecting books. We're collecting books. 05:03:00.040 --> 05:03:05.840 How does my game work so smooth? I do. It's just, yeah, the beta, it's like, actually, it's so smooth. 05:03:05.840 --> 05:03:14.360 It's nuts. There's, like, the memory leak stuff that needs to be fixed, but in general, like, this many players spamming abilities in one spot has never been this on laggy. 05:03:14.360 --> 05:03:16.360 It's crazy, actually. 05:03:16.560 --> 05:03:36.000 Okay, um, is anyone even know where it is? 05:03:36.000 --> 05:03:38.200 Oh, it's outside. 05:03:38.200 --> 05:03:41.000 Oh, it's right here, guys. 05:03:41.000 --> 05:03:47.160 If you see it on screen, it's like a scroll right here in, uh, witherbark. 05:03:47.160 --> 05:03:48.720 Wow, I gotta first try. 05:03:48.720 --> 05:03:50.220 What are the chances, actually? 05:03:50.220 --> 05:03:54.160 Alright, we'll let everyone loot it, we'll just chill out for a minute right here. 05:03:54.160 --> 05:04:00.040 Tribulation, gifting a T1 sub, guys, we're on a Golden Kappa train, level 10. 05:04:00.040 --> 05:04:04.200 Actually since we're on the train, we might as well give some subs myself so we get some 05:04:04.200 --> 05:04:05.200 Golden Kappas here. 05:04:05.200 --> 05:04:07.400 One second, guys. 05:04:07.400 --> 05:04:17.680 sub gift five subs and now I have a golden kappa 05:04:17.680 --> 05:04:24.360 well let's stay let's stay like somewhat tightly grouped guys because there 05:04:24.360 --> 05:04:28.520 could be horde out here there could be could be a respawns it could be this and 05:04:28.520 --> 05:04:31.400 that so let's just let's just give everyone a second and then say somewhat 05:04:31.400 --> 05:04:37.080 tightly grouped horde ahead that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying stay 05:04:37.080 --> 05:04:46.560 tight. Next up by the way we're gonna go to... where we going? There's one in 05:04:46.560 --> 05:04:54.440 Ulteric Mountains we'll go to next I believe. Yeah, Ulteric Mountains. It's the 05:04:54.440 --> 05:04:57.200 next closest one. 05:04:59.680 --> 05:05:02.880 Okay we're gonna wait on more people to loot that and we'll just kind of chill 05:05:02.880 --> 05:05:13.080 here. Go to the flight path and fly to South Shore. Not everyone has the South Shore flight 05:05:13.080 --> 05:05:21.000 path, so we could just run. It's not that big of a deal. Hey, love to the UK. Peebo, 05:05:21.000 --> 05:05:26.120 thanks for the tier one. What are the books for gear, guys? 05:05:26.120 --> 05:05:41.120 I know show back needs help, but it is miserable to get multiple raids on a new layer and we have everyone on the same layer right now so there's a 0% chance we're trying to layer hundreds of people. 05:05:41.120 --> 05:05:47.840 uh track thanks to the five gifted bathing bear thanks to the prime bear another bear 05:05:47.840 --> 05:05:54.080 thanks to the prime what's the goal here we're farming books for a year we have one two three 05:05:54.080 --> 05:05:59.040 four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen we need twenty 05:06:01.440 --> 05:06:04.240 so there's more in Hillsbrad 05:06:06.240 --> 05:06:08.960 or Ulteric mountains silver pine oh crap 05:06:11.120 --> 05:06:13.120 Probably don't want to hit that guy 05:06:13.140 --> 05:06:17.720 Just run past him a silver pine under like tears fall 05:06:18.760 --> 05:06:21.640 There's one in Western Plague. I don't know if we're gonna do that one 05:06:22.640 --> 05:06:27.000 Yeah, I don't actually don't know where the yeah, we'll have to figure out where the rest of them are 05:06:29.880 --> 05:06:33.760 What's the helmet from tailoring what gear neck in a ring 05:06:34.640 --> 05:06:37.560 Where to trade books for gear? That's a good question 05:06:37.560 --> 05:06:43.040 question. It's at the library or something? Is it the tower of Azora? I don't know. I 05:06:43.040 --> 05:06:47.040 actually don't know where to turn them in. We'll figure that out soon. 05:06:47.040 --> 05:06:58.040 Do-do-do-do-do-do. Top of mage tower. Oh, it's just a mage tower and storm went nice. 05:06:58.040 --> 05:07:06.180 to 05:07:06.180 --> 05:07:12.060 a sort of the solo when you did not have to say and having to get a little more creative to look at them successfully 05:07:12.060 --> 05:07:18.960 otholder if you want a group invite we have room 05:07:18.960 --> 05:07:20.960 Ruins of Alterac next yep 05:07:22.160 --> 05:07:24.160 flight path 05:07:24.320 --> 05:07:29.120 Here then running to ruins of Alterac. I think that's the best one 05:07:30.800 --> 05:07:32.800 Are they doing mounts at 30 now? 05:07:33.040 --> 05:07:40.600 Thanks for the bids. I'm frog from Austria. Yo, bloody like the vids frog go gone. Thanks for the gifted tier one. Y'all killed me 05:07:40.600 --> 05:07:41.680 I'm sorry 05:07:41.680 --> 05:07:45.640 40 for mounts as far as I know ace. Thanks for continuing your gifted sub 05:07:45.640 --> 05:07:54.640 Who do we whisper for invite? LuTV. Leytv has raid spots. LuTV. Ozzy Hunts might have 05:07:54.640 --> 05:07:59.760 some raided raid spots as well, but LuTV definitely does. If you guys want to join. 05:07:59.760 --> 05:08:09.320 I was gonna do this solo and then a solo run turned into this. I feel like the longer we're 05:08:09.320 --> 05:08:13.080 out here the bigger the train gets it's nuts 05:08:29.080 --> 05:08:33.720 okay so we will get the flight path 05:08:39.320 --> 05:08:45.320 After the flight path guys, we'll just turn around and run since not everyone else south shore let's just let's just run whatever 05:08:52.520 --> 05:08:56.720 How to fix memory leak we cross our fingers and hope tomorrow's patch fixes it 05:09:09.320 --> 05:09:27.620 any spots in the guild right now we're a hundred percent full probably need to make another 05:09:27.620 --> 05:09:38.340 killed actually yeah someone wants to make a forever hype to we could probably do a forever 05:09:38.340 --> 05:09:55.500 Hi too. 05:09:55.500 --> 05:09:57.820 Did you see they changed cone back to eight seconds? 05:09:57.820 --> 05:10:08.220 No shots where no, no way where you see you are you baiting me? 05:10:08.220 --> 05:10:21.140 Check the tooltip at the trainer can you link it to me or do I have to go to the trainer 05:10:21.140 --> 05:10:32.900 Bra guys there's no giveaway guys there's no giveaway going on right now man 05:10:32.900 --> 05:10:59.540 Yeah, I'll have to check the... I'll have to check KonaCold. 05:10:59.540 --> 05:11:06.540 to infinity and beyond. 05:11:06.540 --> 05:11:16.540 Got a spot. I do have one spot in mind but UTV and Aussie Plunts should have room too. 05:11:16.540 --> 05:11:26.960 Dude dude dude dude. Man, the classic was so fun. You could spend five hours just running 05:11:26.960 --> 05:11:35.840 you're on the world looting random stuff and it's just a good time my secretly 05:11:35.840 --> 05:11:44.440 asimovs no that is not me I love his videos though they're hilarious you can 05:11:44.440 --> 05:11:47.280 tell who's watching the stream and who are just bots yeah the bots are the 05:11:47.280 --> 05:11:53.880 people spamming forever hype to when there's not even a giveaway going on for 05:11:53.880 --> 05:11:57.040 For now the spell looks like this. 05:11:57.040 --> 05:12:05.040 Interesting, this definitely read 6 seconds yesterday, right? 05:12:05.040 --> 05:12:15.040 Unless... 05:12:15.040 --> 05:12:17.360 On the website it says 6 seconds. 05:12:17.360 --> 05:12:20.880 I never looked at the trainer though. 05:12:20.880 --> 05:12:26.520 Oh, no, it says eight seconds because you have permafrost, bro. Nothing's changed. 05:12:29.520 --> 05:12:33.280 It's six seconds if you have permafrost talented, it shows us eight. 05:12:35.360 --> 05:12:38.400 I don't know. I don't know. I'll have to do some more. 05:12:41.920 --> 05:12:47.160 You are right. Yeah, I think it's a six. I think it's six seconds with permafrost. It shows us eight. 05:12:48.560 --> 05:12:50.560 So I think it's still six. 05:12:50.880 --> 05:12:52.880 You got me really excited, bro 05:12:53.080 --> 05:12:57.080 I will run the south shore flight path just cuz and then we're gonna go up to Altaric Mountains 05:12:57.240 --> 05:13:01.720 The next book guys is like right around here. There's gonna be elite ogres 05:13:01.720 --> 05:13:05.600 So we're gonna have to lock it in dial and stay together or else we're gonna get smoked 05:13:05.600 --> 05:13:09.040 And by the way, the golden cap of train is over. So there we go 05:13:09.560 --> 05:13:14.000 official wow YouTube channel I saw the new weather it looks amazing 05:13:14.000 --> 05:13:20.480 Who else is glad they fixed the channeled spells loss bug? 05:13:20.480 --> 05:13:21.480 I'm glad. 05:13:21.480 --> 05:13:22.980 Did they fix it already? 05:13:22.980 --> 05:13:29.000 I mean it should be fixed soon if not. 05:13:29.000 --> 05:13:40.000 Oh, I can't kick anyone since I'm not lead. 05:13:40.000 --> 05:13:42.840 Give me lead though, because I don't want to mess with the layers. 05:13:46.440 --> 05:13:47.280 Oh, no. 05:13:47.360 --> 05:13:50.880 One of the raids got layered when we changed zones. 05:13:51.480 --> 05:13:53.080 Oh, it's so brutal. 05:13:58.600 --> 05:14:03.640 Man, so it's hard to keep multiple raids on the same layer 05:14:03.680 --> 05:14:06.240 when you're going through zones. 05:14:06.840 --> 05:14:08.320 That's kind of the big issue. 05:14:08.320 --> 05:14:14.000 Like, if we just stayed in one zone it wouldn't be bad, but if we're running through the world 05:14:14.000 --> 05:14:17.640 every time we go to a new zone it's like, screws the layers. 05:14:17.640 --> 05:14:18.640 Uhhhhh. 05:14:18.640 --> 05:14:36.240 Go help show back please, guys, we have like hundreds of people doing the book quest right 05:14:36.240 --> 05:14:47.880 know. You know what, um, Aussie hunts raid, just keep running. Maybe we'll be back on 05:14:47.880 --> 05:14:54.240 the same layer when we zone over to Alteric Mountains. Maybe Aussie's raid will actually 05:14:54.240 --> 05:14:58.520 zone back to the same layer once we get there. Does everybody get the flight path if you 05:14:58.520 --> 05:15:20.700 don't have it. Basic logic. Yeah, I mean, I'm maybe a work who knows. Good look. We're 05:15:20.700 --> 05:15:26.640 here. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep running up and then see if we can see each other again. 05:15:26.640 --> 05:15:48.840 talents here you go oh oh hey little PvP 188 I don't know if we need to go kill 05:15:48.840 --> 05:15:53.280 these guys it's only like a small little band of horde 05:15:56.640 --> 05:16:00.080 I mean if you want to kill him you can but I think we just keep running 05:16:00.880 --> 05:16:02.280 Try to get this 05:16:02.280 --> 05:16:04.280 Do this thing done? 05:16:09.240 --> 05:16:13.040 Hmm anyone else the CD manager not working. I haven't tested yet 05:16:15.120 --> 05:16:17.120 Let me see oh 05:16:19.560 --> 05:16:21.560 Yeah, maybe it is 05:16:26.640 --> 05:16:35.640 Oh, yeah, I think it might be. 05:16:35.640 --> 05:16:48.760 I don't know which way, oh yeah, maybe this way. 05:16:48.760 --> 05:16:52.120 Actually it would have been quicker to just go up, yeah there's definitely a quicker way 05:16:52.120 --> 05:17:01.480 to get here about whatever. 05:17:01.480 --> 05:17:05.400 Sign 10 not displayed and I wonder what are these buffs? 05:17:05.400 --> 05:17:16.520 The only buff I want to see is... 05:17:16.520 --> 05:17:21.600 Why is this so confusing? 05:17:21.600 --> 05:17:23.600 Puffs, I see 05:17:27.360 --> 05:17:29.360 Mmm, I see 05:17:33.960 --> 05:17:39.360 What are these spells, I see yeah, I don't want to see like any of these 05:17:42.640 --> 05:17:44.640 Just like procs 05:17:48.160 --> 05:17:50.960 Yeah, that's good sweet 05:17:51.600 --> 05:17:59.880 love the content I guess we can go this way here since wow came out haven't been able to 05:17:59.880 --> 05:18:05.320 watch any of the forever mage play how are you feeling about it and how is the three 05:18:05.320 --> 05:18:16.920 different specs feeling I think mage overall feels good thing that's bright that's very 05:18:16.920 --> 05:18:27.600 bright snow. Oh my gosh. For PvP they're good, for dungeoning I think they're okay, for solo 05:18:27.600 --> 05:18:33.360 leveling I think they're okay. My big concern is like end game rotation complexity. That's 05:18:33.360 --> 05:18:37.440 pretty much my only concern to be honest. If we can solve that then I think I'm pretty 05:18:37.440 --> 05:18:48.240 don't happy okay so it looks like we're about here 48 57 so it's probably in this 05:18:48.240 --> 05:18:51.960 tower here and we're gonna have to really really help each other on these 05:18:51.960 --> 05:18:58.720 brutes guys I would assume it's in this tower somewhere yeah we're gonna have to 05:18:58.720 --> 05:19:02.880 help out each other on these brutes guys because these are somewhat high level 05:19:02.880 --> 05:19:05.160 We have to tank and heal and deeps. 05:19:05.160 --> 05:19:06.500 Oh, what? 05:19:07.580 --> 05:19:09.100 I might need a buff or something here. 05:19:09.100 --> 05:19:10.260 Goodness. 05:19:11.140 --> 05:19:12.540 All right. 05:19:12.540 --> 05:19:14.140 Heals, boys, on the tanks. 05:19:14.140 --> 05:19:15.740 Heals on the tanks. 05:19:17.780 --> 05:19:19.420 If you die, we can get reses too. 05:19:19.420 --> 05:19:20.260 Guys, no looting. 05:19:20.260 --> 05:19:21.100 Who's looting, man? 05:19:21.100 --> 05:19:22.620 Kill the ogres. 05:19:22.620 --> 05:19:23.800 Kill the ogres. 05:19:24.700 --> 05:19:26.300 Kill the ogres. 05:19:26.300 --> 05:19:27.980 Miss, miss, miss, miss, miss. 05:19:29.060 --> 05:19:30.060 I'm gonna set a flame strike. 05:19:30.060 --> 05:19:30.980 Maybe these'll hit. 05:19:32.880 --> 05:19:37.400 We need I might I might eat a pop here. I don't know 05:19:42.680 --> 05:19:48.640 Insane Bob, okay, let's kill all the ogres and we'll all loot it and then we'll all move to the next spot 05:19:53.680 --> 05:19:57.560 Did the zero lag thing with this many players is just the coolest thing 05:19:58.440 --> 05:20:00.440 contingency plan warded against 05:20:00.440 --> 05:20:04.680 Damage taking health below 35. So cool. Don't freeze things. 05:20:17.760 --> 05:20:21.760 Okay, well done squad. Well done. 05:20:24.760 --> 05:20:27.000 Well done. Well done. Well done. 05:20:27.000 --> 05:20:34.480 Oh nice we got a second try. Alright, let's give everyone a chance to get it guys. Next 05:20:34.480 --> 05:20:44.280 up we are on the way to... 05:20:44.280 --> 05:20:53.120 Let's go up Silver Pine, Sepulcher. We'll go Sepulcher, I think that'll be doable. 05:20:53.120 --> 05:21:02.400 and amber mill sepulcher amber mill boom boom let's wait for everyone to be done 05:21:02.400 --> 05:21:10.960 looting first and then go the sepulcher one didn't exist the other day when I 05:21:10.960 --> 05:21:21.440 was there oh really arcane curiosities maybe it's a duplicate one it's not real 05:21:21.440 --> 05:21:23.640 Okay, so I'll skip the sepulchre one 05:21:26.280 --> 05:21:31.360 It's not there. Okay, let's give everyone a little bit longer. There's still one in amber mill though. Oh 05:21:33.240 --> 05:21:36.320 It's inside the dungeon. Okay, so we will skip sepulcher 05:21:37.120 --> 05:21:40.940 We'll go amber mill then. Let's give everyone a little longer and move up 05:21:44.080 --> 05:21:48.280 Non-mage here what if there was a talent that made your arcane explosion be centered around your enemy and not you and each 05:21:48.280 --> 05:21:51.720 have you used it buffed your crit I don't know probably just like too too much 05:22:00.360 --> 05:22:03.720 okay um all right I think 05:22:06.520 --> 05:22:09.720 we can get some buffs up or as is up 05:22:18.280 --> 05:22:21.180 Okay, we're going to go Amber, Milben, Silverpun. 05:22:22.700 --> 05:22:25.120 And then after that, we'll go up to Undercity. 05:22:25.120 --> 05:22:26.640 And then after that, we'll see. 05:22:32.900 --> 05:22:33.740 What's the goal here? 05:22:33.740 --> 05:22:35.400 We're getting the books for the gear. 05:22:37.040 --> 05:22:38.940 I just started playing WoW with a friend. 05:22:38.940 --> 05:22:39.920 Nice, welcome in. 05:22:41.800 --> 05:22:44.360 The blue drew forms are actually super cool. 05:22:44.360 --> 05:22:45.940 I think people think they're cool. 05:22:45.940 --> 05:22:50.540 they just feel a little out of place in the world, right? 05:22:50.540 --> 05:22:52.460 What are your thoughts on the theory-wise video? 05:22:52.460 --> 05:22:54.460 On point. 05:22:54.460 --> 05:22:56.100 Loved it. 05:22:56.100 --> 05:22:57.500 Seriously, on point. 05:23:05.020 --> 05:23:05.700 Love your channel. 05:23:05.700 --> 05:23:06.700 Thanks, Cheryl. 05:23:10.780 --> 05:23:11.380 Where are you? 05:23:11.380 --> 05:23:15.420 We're doing a little book gathering 05:23:15.420 --> 05:23:31.100 with the stream today. What does the South Shore boat connect to? It's a three way between 05:23:31.100 --> 05:23:33.100 Stormwind and 05:23:34.820 --> 05:23:39.220 Auburn dine and south shore, right? It was like 05:23:43.420 --> 05:23:45.420 Which is interesting 05:23:50.940 --> 05:23:55.300 Okay, so we're just gonna go back this way guys and we're gonna go up through silver pine 05:23:55.300 --> 05:24:03.700 Are all the raids on the same layer? It seems maybe like it, but it seems like we might have lost some people. 05:24:03.700 --> 05:24:16.180 Oh, wetlands not dust wallow. Next is, thanks for the prime. 05:24:16.180 --> 05:24:30.500 Okay, there's some people that died on other layers. We're gonna need someone to reinvite 05:24:30.500 --> 05:24:38.940 you back to this layer. Is there anyone that can invite more to this layer? Anyone out of a group? 05:24:38.940 --> 05:24:49.260 There's anyone out of a group or any space in a current group. 05:24:49.260 --> 05:24:54.260 Either someone that's not in a group or if you are not in a group you want to make your 05:24:54.260 --> 05:24:55.260 own. 05:24:55.260 --> 05:25:03.380 That's what we're looking for right now for more people. 05:25:03.380 --> 05:25:04.380 No idea what's going on. 05:25:04.380 --> 05:25:06.060 We're doing books for gear, man. 05:25:06.060 --> 05:25:07.060 Warrior's broken right now. 05:25:07.060 --> 05:25:09.060 Yeah, I heard rage mobilization is kind of troll 05:25:17.540 --> 05:25:22.620 So I need a pre-order to play the beta you actually do yeah, well unless you get a beta key 05:25:28.420 --> 05:25:32.100 Every new area you get a new layer. Yeah, maybe it'll fix itself on this next layer 05:25:32.100 --> 05:25:40.380 there. Then thanks for the prime man. We've been doing beta key giveaways. Oh yeah, there's 05:25:40.380 --> 05:25:51.060 the spammers on the giveaways. Where are we heading? We're heading up to Silver Pine right 05:25:51.060 --> 05:25:56.060 now we're going to amber mill and then up to tiris fall 05:26:13.060 --> 05:26:19.020 I think they mean rage normalization on warriors like kind of troll like they're not getting enough rage from crits 05:26:19.020 --> 05:26:24.140 They're not getting enough rage from keep being hit, but I don't know I haven't played a warrior yet 05:26:24.140 --> 05:26:26.140 So I haven't been able to really tell 05:26:27.580 --> 05:26:31.000 It's level 20 that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying like it's level 20 05:26:31.620 --> 05:26:35.720 Thunder armor is broken apparently. I would what how is thunder armor broken? 05:26:39.940 --> 05:26:44.240 No extra raids rage from Chris probably it does sounds like a legit bug though 05:26:49.020 --> 05:26:52.420 Sunder does zero threat. Oh really? 05:27:04.780 --> 05:27:06.860 Hmm. Yeah, maybe that needs to be fixed. 05:27:09.900 --> 05:27:16.260 So Sunder is doing no threat. Critts aren't generating rage. Sounds like just a bunch of bugs on Warrior. 05:27:19.020 --> 05:27:48.840 We can go this way move up here. We'll hit up amber mill and then we'll go tears fall 05:27:48.840 --> 05:27:53.280 Bear is the same for rage with crit so it leads me to believe it is intended. 05:27:53.280 --> 05:27:59.080 Hmm that wouldn't make any sense. Why would you nerf crit rage if there's no 05:27:59.080 --> 05:28:03.520 world buffs and you're critting less than before? We're back. Woohoo! 05:28:03.520 --> 05:28:05.520 Wooo! 05:28:08.800 --> 05:28:10.800 Woo to everyone layered back 05:28:14.960 --> 05:28:20.520 Okay, so yeah, that maybe the best way to handle layering is just to do nothing until we run into the next zone 05:28:21.040 --> 05:28:26.080 Because if we tried to get everyone on our layer and then it's not even worth the effort 05:28:26.880 --> 05:28:30.800 Just keep running together pretend we're on the same layer and in the next zone will be back anyway 05:28:33.520 --> 05:28:39.040 Yeah, we'll check out the clips in a bit guys 05:28:44.640 --> 05:28:51.760 Okay amber mill amber mill oh these don't even hostile this this will be an easy one 05:28:52.000 --> 05:28:56.160 This will also give people time to catch up res buff summon 05:28:59.920 --> 05:29:01.920 Nice 05:29:03.520 --> 05:29:19.600 If you get it, just move to the side and then we'll buff up and summon and get ready for 05:29:19.600 --> 05:29:26.200 the next one. 05:29:26.200 --> 05:29:46.200 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 books, boys! 05:29:46.200 --> 05:29:54.960 Um, Tirisfall will be 17. 05:29:54.960 --> 05:30:01.160 And those last three will be interesting. 05:30:01.160 --> 05:30:05.180 There is one in Western Plaguelands, but that seems tough. 05:30:05.180 --> 05:30:06.760 That seems like we're just gonna all die. 05:30:06.760 --> 05:30:08.560 I don't think we can get that one. 05:30:08.560 --> 05:30:12.440 Oh, there's one in Darkshore. 05:30:12.440 --> 05:30:19.040 There's one in Dust Wallow and Thousand Needles in Darkshore. 05:30:19.040 --> 05:30:22.040 I think those will be the easiest three. 05:30:22.040 --> 05:30:25.180 Dust Wallow Thousand Needles Darkshore. 05:30:25.180 --> 05:30:26.680 After this next one. 05:30:26.680 --> 05:30:27.680 Yeah, let's do that. 05:30:27.680 --> 05:30:31.960 Yo, Kirsten, thank you very much. 05:30:31.960 --> 05:30:33.880 Can you even read the books? 05:30:33.880 --> 05:30:34.880 Nope. 05:30:34.880 --> 05:30:39.200 Nope, nope, nope. 05:30:39.200 --> 05:30:40.200 Where to next? 05:30:40.200 --> 05:30:42.920 We're going to Kira's Fall. 05:30:42.920 --> 05:30:44.920 Brill. We're going to Brill. 05:30:44.920 --> 05:30:47.560 Are we gonna be able to get in the Brill? 05:30:47.560 --> 05:30:53.060 Wait, Brill might actually be brutal. 05:30:53.060 --> 05:30:55.060 Because there's guards. 05:30:55.060 --> 05:30:58.340 Oh wait, maybe Brill's not a good idea. 05:30:58.340 --> 05:31:00.340 I forgot there's like max level guards. 05:31:00.340 --> 05:31:10.640 Hmm people are saying it's possible. It's easier than it sounds 05:31:14.740 --> 05:31:17.740 Okay, I'm down to try it. We're right here. Oh, thanks, man 05:31:20.900 --> 05:31:26.820 Hi, is it broken your phone? Oh great 05:31:26.820 --> 05:31:33.220 I guess, I got it through Shannon's phone and some water. 05:31:33.220 --> 05:31:35.420 I thought iPhones were supposed to be waterproof. 05:31:35.420 --> 05:31:42.980 Maybe you just need to try out. 05:31:42.980 --> 05:31:43.980 Water resistance. 05:31:43.980 --> 05:31:47.220 Oh, true. 05:31:47.220 --> 05:31:48.220 Put it in rice. 05:31:48.220 --> 05:31:50.220 Okay, I'll message her saying that. 05:32:18.220 --> 05:32:25.360 Okay, I messaged show back saying where we're collecting books right now. So hopefully I said I can maybe help him in a bit 05:32:26.460 --> 05:32:29.960 I do I don't know about Brill guys. I'm I'm sussing on the Brill. Oh 05:32:40.860 --> 05:32:42.860 Show back off, okay 05:32:48.220 --> 05:32:50.220 I 05:32:56.780 --> 05:33:01.020 Explained the book on skies. I'm sorry for explaining the book on to every 30 seconds 05:33:02.020 --> 05:33:04.900 But we got it. We got to explain it to the new viewers 05:33:07.420 --> 05:33:13.280 Actually, this will be the last time we say for a bit that people ask maybe people in the shack and help me out here the book 05:33:14.420 --> 05:33:18.060 You get 20 of them you get a good ring you get 10 of them you get a good neck 05:33:18.220 --> 05:33:22.700 You turn it in the Stormwind library or in the mage tower, that's it. 05:33:22.700 --> 05:33:31.620 Alright, now if anyone else asks, it's on you guys, yeah, you guys tell me about it. 05:33:31.620 --> 05:33:45.340 I tried, people ask you instead, yeah. 05:33:45.340 --> 05:33:46.580 They're really good stats, yeah. 05:33:46.580 --> 05:34:12.860 insanely strong. Four shadow, thanks for the prompt, thanks for the two of them. Hopefully 05:34:12.860 --> 05:34:39.100 we don't layer off. We're looking okay so far. Yeah, the rings are really strong. Forever 05:34:39.100 --> 05:34:44.800 Forever Hype 2 is set up? Oh really? Can you send me a whisper? 05:34:44.800 --> 05:34:51.820 Our guild is 100% full. We might need to get some officers in the second one. 05:34:51.820 --> 05:34:58.820 I got it all ready to go. Forever Hype 2? 05:34:58.820 --> 05:35:11.340 Oh, nope, now the bots are coming out. 05:35:11.340 --> 05:35:16.940 Oh gosh, no, no, guys, oh my gosh, guys, no, bots, don't. 05:35:16.940 --> 05:35:18.940 I'll just pour Warlock 05:35:29.260 --> 05:35:31.260 Right 05:35:32.780 --> 05:35:38.920 Good it's gracious moving through moving through moving through moving through moving through moving through 05:35:38.920 --> 05:35:46.800 new guild just a second one this one's been full for a bit normally I only like 05:35:46.800 --> 05:35:53.040 to do one guild but I think it's because it's EU and NA it's like there's so many 05:35:53.040 --> 05:35:55.600 people man 05:35:55.600 --> 05:36:08.600 I just drank a protein shake had some liquid cows 05:36:08.600 --> 05:36:26.200 Ah, okay. 05:36:56.200 --> 05:37:08.540 All right, trying to get a second guild set up right now sick 05:37:10.040 --> 05:37:12.040 All right 05:37:12.080 --> 05:37:16.520 So before we go in the Brill we're gonna wait for everyone 05:37:17.840 --> 05:37:20.460 Because we don't want to go in one by one and die 05:37:22.120 --> 05:37:25.120 In fact, we could probably just chill here for a second if we want 05:37:26.200 --> 05:37:32.200 Is it gonna be worth doing this in the live game? No, cuz you're not unless you're like twinking at 19 05:37:32.280 --> 05:37:34.640 This will be worth doing if you're like 19 twinking, but 05:37:35.400 --> 05:37:37.800 Not besides that. All right, we can kind of like wait around here 05:37:38.480 --> 05:37:43.080 Let's let everyone catch up and then we'll have to figure out where this is without actually pulling guards 05:37:56.200 --> 05:38:10.840 10 books seems worth if you're just grabbing them while leveling, yeah, if you have the 05:38:10.840 --> 05:38:15.560 game knowledge on how to get 10 that gives you a good neck, sure, but getting 20 isn't 05:38:15.560 --> 05:38:17.560 going to be an accident. 20 is brutal. 05:38:26.340 --> 05:38:29.780 Okay, I think we have most people here. Looks like the warlocks in the back are 05:38:29.780 --> 05:38:34.640 doing summons. Does anyone know where this book is? Because we definitely don't 05:38:34.640 --> 05:38:41.600 want to pull guards and all die. But we can kind of slowly move up. 05:38:45.560 --> 05:38:56.120 Oh, someone might have pulled some cards, but I think it's like around here somewhere. 05:38:56.120 --> 05:38:58.240 So apparently it's in here. 05:38:58.240 --> 05:39:01.400 Haha, okay, yeah. 05:39:01.400 --> 05:39:07.040 Well, can we do it without Guard Agro, or are we just gonna have to kill a few of them? 05:39:07.040 --> 05:39:15.040 I mean, if all of us attack a guard, we might be able to kill one. 05:39:15.040 --> 05:39:22.040 We do not want to pull extras though guys, if we can help it. 05:39:22.040 --> 05:39:30.480 Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, um. 05:39:30.480 --> 05:39:37.200 Yeah, I think we're all going to die. 05:39:37.200 --> 05:39:42.000 Yeah, yeah, that's about what I thought was going to happen and the people were like, 05:39:42.000 --> 05:39:43.260 Dude, it's not that bad. 05:39:46.020 --> 05:39:47.320 I can't click on it. 05:39:48.860 --> 05:39:50.900 Guys, we don't wanna stand on top of it. 05:39:50.900 --> 05:39:52.260 We're all just dying now. 05:39:57.780 --> 05:39:58.900 Yeah, okay. 05:40:00.600 --> 05:40:01.500 Someone got it. 05:40:01.500 --> 05:40:02.740 One person got it. 05:40:02.740 --> 05:40:03.580 Nice. 05:40:03.580 --> 05:40:04.420 Ha ha ha. 05:40:04.420 --> 05:40:23.260 one guy got it okay well I'm trying to think of this is better to just skip it 05:40:23.260 --> 05:40:27.480 Or if we should try so I mean everyone can run back 05:40:37.700 --> 05:40:43.420 Trying to think I just found a book that isn't even on that site really where did you find it? That's cool 05:40:53.260 --> 05:41:15.260 There's so many deathguards. 05:41:15.260 --> 05:41:30.460 There's no way, bro! 05:41:30.460 --> 05:41:33.860 There is no way! 05:41:33.860 --> 05:41:41.260 Yeah, right, dude! 05:41:41.260 --> 05:41:42.500 Pull one and try to kill it? 05:41:42.500 --> 05:41:46.220 I mean, there's so many of them. 05:41:48.040 --> 05:41:49.800 The weather updates look sick, yeah. 05:41:54.500 --> 05:41:55.460 Wait a minute. 05:41:57.100 --> 05:41:58.540 Guys, are we doubling back? 05:41:58.540 --> 05:42:01.520 Someone's doing God's work here and they're pulling it out. 05:42:04.180 --> 05:42:06.020 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. 05:42:07.100 --> 05:42:08.440 There's no guards now. 05:42:12.500 --> 05:42:18.500 Oh, they're coming back. Oh, yeah, they're coming back. 05:42:18.500 --> 05:42:25.020 We okay, what we need is like a pallet like a like a hunter maybe that uses cheetah that 05:42:25.020 --> 05:42:28.100 just pulls these and like books it that way. 05:42:28.100 --> 05:42:36.780 A brave soul. 05:42:36.780 --> 05:42:40.940 Oh my gosh. Okay. Okay. Okay. 05:42:41.740 --> 05:42:44.500 Okay, now we need to get in there and loot quick 05:42:46.220 --> 05:42:52.460 In and out we have a kite team kite team. Oh my oh, there's oh gosh. Oh come on 05:42:54.660 --> 05:42:58.940 Don't stand on top of it. Oh God guys, I can't even click it 05:43:00.940 --> 05:43:04.380 Where is it guys got a backup backup backup 05:43:06.980 --> 05:43:08.980 I can't even see it, bro 05:43:10.940 --> 05:43:15.100 Where is it, dude? 05:43:15.100 --> 05:43:19.940 We're all dying in here, man! 05:43:19.940 --> 05:43:27.140 I can't even see it, dude! 05:43:27.140 --> 05:43:28.300 No one's looting it. 05:43:28.300 --> 05:43:36.940 No one can even see this. 05:43:36.940 --> 05:43:51.940 Interact key. Interact key works. Got it. Oh my gosh. Got it. I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. 05:43:51.940 --> 05:43:58.140 I'm out. Guys, interact key. You have to keybind interact key and then just mouse over it. Holy 05:43:58.140 --> 05:44:06.780 crap. Okay, we kite teams and then interact key gamer teams. This is going to be so hard to get 05:44:06.780 --> 05:44:09.780 120 people this book. This is disgusting. 05:44:14.780 --> 05:44:15.780 Oh! 05:44:15.780 --> 05:44:19.780 Okay, I'm a kite team now. They're on me, they're on me. Go, go, guys, go! 05:44:19.780 --> 05:44:21.780 Look at everyone at the campsite. What's up, guys? 05:44:21.780 --> 05:44:24.780 Ah! I'm getting owned! 05:44:25.780 --> 05:44:28.780 Go, guys, loot it, loot it! They're on me, they're on me! 05:44:36.780 --> 05:44:41.140 As someone in our raid just says what's the book even for dude? 05:44:41.140 --> 05:44:47.540 I like how you've been out here in our raid for like hours collecting books, and you're like wait. What's this for? 05:44:50.500 --> 05:44:52.500 My gosh legend 05:44:56.100 --> 05:45:00.100 Wait, why are you guys following me don't you guys all need to get it? I'm just kiting out 05:45:02.220 --> 05:45:05.020 You guys can all go get the book right now. I have all of the aggro 05:45:06.780 --> 05:45:10.220 I got it. I got it. We're helping you. 05:45:13.460 --> 05:45:16.140 Oh, if you guys if you guys don't need the book, yeah, I 05:45:19.500 --> 05:45:22.020 Have it I got it. Okay. Okay. You guys are all good then 05:45:23.540 --> 05:45:27.420 Everyone that doesn't have the book now is your time to get it because all the guards are on us 05:45:27.780 --> 05:45:29.940 We're just gonna keep running these down the road 05:45:31.060 --> 05:45:33.060 You guys can get the book right now 05:45:36.780 --> 05:45:46.540 Hopefully okay, we're out of combat so they might have reset 05:45:52.540 --> 05:45:54.540 Um 05:46:02.420 --> 05:46:05.060 How many people still need book 05:46:06.780 --> 05:46:12.420 Okay, there's a definitely definitely a handful 05:46:16.020 --> 05:46:19.100 Let's kite it out again for other people and see if they can get it now 05:46:24.900 --> 05:46:31.040 Has anyone done the Western Plaguelands book like is that just a dumb one because there's 05:46:33.780 --> 05:46:35.780 Yeah, I think there's easier ones 05:46:36.780 --> 05:46:42.540 There's one in Darkshore that's easy. There's one in Thousand Needles that would be pretty easy, and then there's one in 05:46:43.300 --> 05:46:46.400 Dust Wallow. I think we should do those three. Oh crap. 05:46:51.780 --> 05:46:56.540 WPL is easy. It's at Scala. It's free. Oh, you can get the Scala one. 05:46:58.540 --> 05:47:01.300 Oh, the Scala one. Yeah, let's definitely do the Scala one. 05:47:01.300 --> 05:47:06.960 But there's two there's actually two in WPL the scholar one's probably easy the other one's probably rough 05:47:20.300 --> 05:47:22.300 Okay, if you need the book 05:47:22.940 --> 05:47:24.940 I'll try to get this guard off you guys 05:47:25.540 --> 05:47:29.460 You guys can go loot it. I'll grab this one this guard here 05:47:31.300 --> 05:47:33.300 Okay, I got this guard here 05:47:33.800 --> 05:47:35.800 You guys need to go loot 05:47:36.220 --> 05:47:39.380 Interact bind your interact key. I'll kite this one away 05:47:41.620 --> 05:47:43.620 Wonder if I can just sheep this thing 05:47:51.340 --> 05:47:57.180 Okay reset, I'll come back and pick it up again everybody just just spam loot it 05:47:57.180 --> 05:48:05.740 There's might be a death card. Oh, okay someone kite those out. I'll try to get grab these ones 05:48:11.240 --> 05:48:13.440 Crap it's might be coming in for you guys hold on 05:48:16.600 --> 05:48:21.860 Yeah, I have two of them on me you guys go to loot it again you guys should be able to loot it again 05:48:21.860 --> 05:48:23.860 I got both of these on me 05:48:24.900 --> 05:48:26.900 Squeak they're on you now 05:48:27.780 --> 05:48:30.020 Nice you guys are looting it. Good job. Oh 05:48:32.580 --> 05:48:35.300 These guys are easy to tank they don't do any damage 05:48:37.620 --> 05:48:42.460 Didn't you say you would be done at this quest in two hours. Yeah, does it's definitely taken a little longer than I thought 05:48:49.620 --> 05:48:53.620 Okay, how many people still need it like I 05:48:53.620 --> 05:48:56.200 It I don't know 05:48:58.960 --> 05:49:04.440 Me I still need it. All right now now was your chance now was your chance wait. I wonder if we can just kill these 05:49:05.240 --> 05:49:10.080 Hold on if you're a hunter to start attacking. Can we just kill these? They don't even hit that hard 05:49:18.640 --> 05:49:20.640 They're like impossible to hit though 05:49:23.620 --> 05:49:29.260 Oh, yeah, don't don't get hit by him don't know don't paint him bro. Kite him 05:49:33.340 --> 05:49:35.700 Yeah, we sent those already thanks for the five men 05:49:39.380 --> 05:49:45.720 Yes, yeah, do not only kite them only kite them do not get hit I just wanted like test like we actually just kill these 05:49:45.720 --> 05:49:52.440 guys we have we have a lot of people sitting on this campfire right now and 05:49:52.440 --> 05:49:58.880 when there is just pure pure war going on over here just saying like you can't 05:49:58.880 --> 05:50:04.520 fire and he's like we're getting owned wait this is actually working to kill 05:50:04.520 --> 05:50:13.880 them by the way just one at a time they actually do die it's just don't like 05:50:13.880 --> 05:50:18.280 Whoever has aggro should be a hunter. Just keep kiting the rest of us can just start slamming 05:50:18.800 --> 05:50:22.540 The the range guards don't hit very hard at all. We can actually just kill them 05:50:26.040 --> 05:50:28.040 Cool now we just kill this one 05:50:30.760 --> 05:50:33.000 You mean hunters can kill them we we 05:50:33.000 --> 05:50:45.680 Let's get one at a time and then people can keep getting the book when they need 05:50:45.680 --> 05:50:52.220 second kill this out be we TV okay if you guys want to kill to forever hype to 05:50:52.220 --> 05:50:59.720 that's not a giveaway to guild you can message be we TV be we TV for a second I 05:50:59.720 --> 05:51:06.720 I don't know why I did a raid warning of that, but BWTV. 05:51:14.600 --> 05:51:18.320 Kill this low one now. 05:51:18.320 --> 05:51:22.280 These are actually really easy to kill, surprisingly. 05:51:22.280 --> 05:51:27.680 There's only like four left. 05:51:27.680 --> 05:51:29.320 Done. 05:51:29.320 --> 05:51:33.480 Does anyone need... books still? 05:51:41.380 --> 05:51:42.880 There's two people, I think. 05:51:52.980 --> 05:51:54.980 There's like two or three people that need it. 05:51:59.320 --> 05:52:11.520 Who do we message for Guild Invite? 05:52:11.520 --> 05:52:12.520 B-W-T-V. 05:52:12.520 --> 05:52:19.520 I'll do a raid warning again. 05:52:19.520 --> 05:52:46.320 are they are they just respawning we have one two three left for left 05:52:49.520 --> 05:53:08.000 The melee ones hit harder, way harder. 05:53:08.000 --> 05:53:24.240 to spend Skyrim if we need though they instant we need to move apparently they 05:53:24.240 --> 05:53:31.040 instantly respawn let me check the book are these guys on following me yeah it 05:53:31.040 --> 05:53:33.840 looks like a multi boxing look at this they're all following me 05:53:33.840 --> 05:53:35.600 Ha ha, what's up guys? 05:53:39.400 --> 05:53:42.680 I'm gonna see if the book is lootable right now. 05:53:45.280 --> 05:53:46.880 It looks lootable right now. 05:53:46.880 --> 05:53:50.800 If anyone doesn't have the book, like, go loot it. 05:53:50.800 --> 05:53:51.880 You can literally just, 05:53:54.840 --> 05:53:58.100 oh, there's one, okay, I picked up the one. 05:53:58.100 --> 05:53:59.800 Oh wait, no, they all respawned. 05:53:59.800 --> 05:54:02.020 Ah, curve, goodness gracious. 05:54:03.840 --> 05:54:12.000 I picked up aggro. Oh, this is gonna be iffy. I might die. I'm gonna need a 05:54:12.000 --> 05:54:18.000 bomber on dead. I don't even know if we should try killing these but now it's 05:54:18.000 --> 05:54:20.440 your chance to loot. I think after this guys we're gonna get out of here. They 05:54:20.440 --> 05:54:23.560 just keep respawning. Now it's your chance to loot if you haven't got it. I 05:54:23.560 --> 05:54:26.640 just picked up the aggro and everything. I don't think we're gonna kill all these 05:54:26.640 --> 05:54:33.180 this could take too long. Now it's your chance to loot. After that I think we 05:54:33.180 --> 05:54:43.660 move Darkshore. The quickest way to Darkshore is Stormwind and then boat. And then we, after 05:54:43.660 --> 05:54:47.420 we boat, there we boat to Theramore. After we boat to Theramore we... 05:54:47.420 --> 05:54:55.300 Oh, Scalo, you're right. Scalo, Scalo, you're right. You guys are right. Scalo, I forgot. 05:54:55.300 --> 05:54:57.300 Scallow because it's easy 05:54:58.880 --> 05:55:00.880 Scallow next yes 05:55:05.240 --> 05:55:07.920 Another month yo, gee thanks for the two one man 05:55:08.980 --> 05:55:15.640 You can't turn scallow book in you should do scallow one for it. Wait people are saying you can't turn the scallow book in 05:55:21.600 --> 05:55:23.600 Yes, you can 05:55:25.300 --> 05:55:36.740 I did last night, you can. 05:55:36.740 --> 05:55:40.580 Alright, Scala Book it is then. 05:55:40.580 --> 05:55:51.700 Trying to think the easiest way to get to Scala Man's without dying. 05:55:51.700 --> 05:55:54.180 Scala Book, separate book quest, but can turn it in. 05:55:54.180 --> 05:55:56.180 Thanks guys. 05:55:56.180 --> 05:55:58.180 Book explanation? Thanks Nappy. 05:56:06.180 --> 05:56:09.180 There's a lot of people that are dying. 05:56:09.180 --> 05:56:14.180 You could just take Resic and then meet us. 05:56:14.180 --> 05:56:18.180 Or you could run back and try to be quick. 05:56:18.180 --> 05:56:36.220 Uh, sepulcher, it doesn't exist, like it's, the book there, it doesn't exist. 05:56:36.220 --> 05:56:38.580 I turned the Scalo book in 50 minutes ago and got my neck. 05:56:38.580 --> 05:56:39.580 Okay. 05:56:39.580 --> 05:56:43.540 So we'll go Scalo and then after Scalo, I think we hearth out to Stormwind, take the 05:56:43.540 --> 05:56:45.860 bow and get the Darkshore one. 05:56:45.860 --> 05:56:55.420 And then after that, we figure out how to get to Theramore and get the wetlands one 05:56:55.420 --> 05:56:57.020 and then that's it. 05:56:57.020 --> 05:57:13.780 And we're done. 05:57:13.780 --> 05:57:15.820 There might have been a few people that didn't get the Brille one. 05:57:15.820 --> 05:57:16.820 I'm sorry guys. 05:57:16.820 --> 05:57:23.820 I think the longer we stay there, the worse that gets. 05:57:23.820 --> 05:57:26.340 You know, Nappy, you could send the link to that clip a couple of times. 05:57:26.340 --> 05:57:27.340 Yeah, there it is. 05:57:27.340 --> 05:57:28.340 Thanks, Nappy. 05:57:28.340 --> 05:57:39.940 Just check the clip, guys. 05:57:39.940 --> 05:57:40.940 Are we still collecting books? 05:57:40.940 --> 05:57:41.940 Yeah. 05:57:41.940 --> 05:57:48.020 gonna be like one hour maybe two but this is uh definitely taking longer than I thought but 05:57:48.020 --> 05:57:53.140 honestly I'm having fun so I don't even care but it's it's definitely taking way longer than I thought 05:57:53.140 --> 05:58:04.180 I thought it would be like an hour. Second guild is BWTV. If you do slash who forever hype two. 05:58:11.940 --> 05:58:38.300 Oh, it's an L's. Oh, shit. Someone else had the. Oh, yeah, BW TV has it. Okay, so this 05:58:38.300 --> 05:58:43.300 This is going to be iffy. 05:58:43.300 --> 05:58:54.940 I mean we want to get here, which means we just want to get here, this is all safe. 05:58:54.940 --> 05:58:58.380 Honestly guys, I think we cut through the mountain into the water and then we're safe. 05:58:58.380 --> 05:58:59.380 Yeah, that's what we do. 05:58:59.380 --> 05:59:02.900 The road's going to be way worse. 05:59:02.900 --> 05:59:06.020 We just kind of pushed through here, right, when we're in the water, we're pretty much 05:59:06.020 --> 05:59:07.020 safe. 05:59:07.020 --> 05:59:09.540 There's only a couple mobs between us and that water 05:59:13.380 --> 05:59:15.620 Just a stick to like more the mountain side 05:59:16.260 --> 05:59:20.460 Orance once we're in the water we swim to the other side and it'll just be a town 05:59:22.180 --> 05:59:24.740 There might have been a safer way to do this but 05:59:30.220 --> 05:59:32.220 Over this I 05:59:32.220 --> 05:59:39.100 I can't swim well now it's time to learn once we are across the water. It's we're home free boys 05:59:47.300 --> 05:59:53.560 Nice I don't think there's any more mobs. Oh the mobs can't even swim easy clamp 06:00:02.220 --> 06:00:09.700 Cool. So we get the Scala book, we'll all run, grab the Scala book, and then after that 06:00:09.700 --> 06:00:15.100 we'll, I think we all just hearth to Stormwind or Ironforge take the boat over Darkshore. 06:00:15.100 --> 06:00:20.700 We get the Darkshore one, and then the last one will be in Theramore, and I think we can 06:00:20.700 --> 06:00:28.540 take up the boat back to, yeah we'll have to figure out the fastest way from there. 06:00:28.540 --> 06:00:34.420 I think if we can take like a boat and then take another boat and then take another boat. 06:00:38.020 --> 06:00:39.860 I think yes, there should be boat boat boat. 06:00:48.020 --> 06:00:49.940 Frostfire is three points. 06:00:49.980 --> 06:00:54.620 I only have two in it right now, but I might respect if they reduce the respect gold cost. 06:00:58.540 --> 06:01:04.840 Fastest is to get two books and WPL. 06:01:04.840 --> 06:01:07.560 I think too many of us are going to die. 06:01:07.560 --> 06:01:14.360 I think just going to Darkshore and getting it is probably easier. 06:01:14.360 --> 06:01:16.040 Is there no double spec? 06:01:16.040 --> 06:01:19.040 There will be a 40, I would assume. 06:01:19.040 --> 06:01:31.040 Hi, how are ya? 06:01:31.040 --> 06:01:35.040 Okay, flight path guys and then we'll... 06:01:35.040 --> 06:01:37.040 Um... 06:01:37.040 --> 06:01:41.040 Actually, can we get there without hitting any mobs? 06:01:41.040 --> 06:01:45.040 Or there are gonna be a few mobs. 06:01:45.040 --> 06:01:50.040 This will be interesting. 06:01:50.040 --> 06:01:55.200 I mean we could go down and through the river. 06:01:55.200 --> 06:01:57.720 That would be safe. 06:01:57.720 --> 06:02:03.920 Let's see if we can get through the, ooh, um, I mean down and through the river is safe. 06:02:03.920 --> 06:02:07.520 This might be a little spicy. 06:02:07.520 --> 06:02:11.040 How many mobs is it? 06:02:11.040 --> 06:02:13.040 Okay. 06:02:13.040 --> 06:02:18.320 Yeah hunters do your thing hunter pets hunter slows 06:02:19.080 --> 06:02:24.880 Let's go shouldn't be too many mobs and once we get to the water. We're safe. We're very close 06:02:31.200 --> 06:02:35.600 This isn't too bad. Yeah, this isn't as is fine. This isn't too bad at all 06:02:43.040 --> 06:02:45.040 I 06:02:47.920 --> 06:02:54.200 Just watched summit run through EPL with no mobs aggroed at all. I see you're saying that EPL one is easy 06:03:02.040 --> 06:03:06.080 Oh gosh, oh no people are getting picked off 06:03:06.080 --> 06:03:14.160 Yogi don't die. I'm trying to get aggro from Yogi. Rip Yogi. 06:03:14.160 --> 06:03:24.680 Oh my Frost Nova worked. I might have to save someone's life right there. Sick. 06:03:36.080 --> 06:03:47.200 They're like a horde druid. 06:03:47.200 --> 06:03:52.960 Yo, flute, face the front. 06:03:52.960 --> 06:03:56.440 Not a single warrior in your group. 06:03:56.440 --> 06:04:01.440 These bottom re-rollers, I can't believe it. 06:04:01.440 --> 06:04:12.360 Is it quicker to swim across the bridge? 06:04:13.240 --> 06:04:16.200 Look the bridge would be quicker, but people are swimming. I don't know 06:04:32.960 --> 06:04:34.960 Maybe swimming was faster 06:04:34.960 --> 06:04:48.240 Now swimming was probably way quicker here guys. 06:04:48.240 --> 06:04:51.240 Forever hype too. 06:04:51.240 --> 06:04:54.120 Lots of people in the guild now. 06:04:54.120 --> 06:04:56.600 If you were a Thor and you'd be there by now, true. 06:04:56.600 --> 06:05:00.920 Thor and OP for this. 06:05:00.920 --> 06:05:07.920 Oh, no, he said it again. 06:05:07.920 --> 06:05:09.920 Oh, gosh. 06:05:09.920 --> 06:05:11.920 I love you, Zarpie. 06:05:11.920 --> 06:05:14.920 We kiss our master brother man's. 06:05:14.920 --> 06:05:18.920 Thanks for the T1. 06:05:18.920 --> 06:05:20.920 I 06:05:32.520 --> 06:05:34.520 Remember getting this and sod I think 06:05:41.000 --> 06:05:43.000 Oh, it's down here 06:05:43.000 --> 06:05:53.940 Okay, so we're gonna grab this we're gonna hearth if your hearth is Stormwind we're 06:05:53.940 --> 06:05:57.500 just taking the boat to Darkshore if your hearth's Ironforge you'll have to come over 06:05:57.500 --> 06:06:02.740 to Stormwind and then take the boat to Darkshore and then we'll get the Darkshore one. 06:06:02.740 --> 06:06:16.660 Darkshore is a low level sound so it should be easy. 06:06:16.660 --> 06:06:18.020 This is the 18th book. 06:06:18.020 --> 06:06:20.220 Oh my gosh, bro. 06:06:20.220 --> 06:06:22.220 Are you making the guild tabird today? Yeah, eventually. 06:06:42.220 --> 06:06:46.220 Wait, it's 10 gold for a tabird? I mean, I have 11. I thought it was one gold. 06:06:50.660 --> 06:06:52.660 Let's do EPL 06:06:52.740 --> 06:06:56.480 There's a lot of people already heard I think we're gonna go dark shore and then 06:06:58.260 --> 06:07:00.260 It's 10 G to make it 06:07:02.940 --> 06:07:08.300 Wow, it's a lot of gold. I mean I have 11 gold, but I was gonna make the belt which is probably gonna be like five 06:07:08.300 --> 06:07:24.140 Am I sticking to Ally at launch? Yeah, yeah. Dude, I like Alliance. I like Alliance. And 06:07:24.140 --> 06:07:29.380 so they fixed the issue of 100 people clicking at it at the same time. So trolled they made 06:07:29.380 --> 06:07:33.980 it clickable like this. Yeah, they need to fix that. Yo, thanks, Fulgrim. Appreciate 06:07:33.980 --> 06:07:51.140 Oh wow okay guys I think we might have enough gold now to do a kill tabard at least in forever 06:07:51.140 --> 06:08:08.100 I've won. Oh gosh, not that. Okay. Don't don't spam that. Okay. 06:08:08.100 --> 06:08:25.140 to the harbor to Darkshore. We'll get the Darkshore book. And then take two boats to 06:08:25.140 --> 06:08:30.900 get the Theramore one and then we're done. 06:08:30.900 --> 06:08:37.600 What a journey. 06:08:37.600 --> 06:08:38.600 What a journey. 06:08:38.600 --> 06:08:47.560 Then after that I can finally play the game. 06:08:47.560 --> 06:08:49.120 I can help Showback. 06:08:49.120 --> 06:08:56.600 I heard he needs my help so after this two more books and we can help Showback. 06:08:56.600 --> 06:09:08.180 You need a step tracker on I wonder if this is the most what's wrong with the most amount 06:09:08.180 --> 06:09:15.060 of steps I've ever taken in a while in a single day. 06:09:15.060 --> 06:09:21.860 Probably not because I probably just ran in circles and like a city before but I feel 06:09:21.860 --> 06:09:25.860 I feel like this is like the most distance I've traveled in a single day on WoW. 06:09:27.360 --> 06:09:27.860 Maybe. 06:09:32.960 --> 06:09:34.360 Without just like running in circles. 06:09:34.660 --> 06:09:35.960 Hero, thanks for the raid man. 06:09:40.060 --> 06:09:42.360 The sleeping bag quest is a lot of steps too. 06:09:42.360 --> 06:09:47.060 I mean, yeah, but when you compare it to this where we have literally been everywhere today. 06:09:51.860 --> 06:09:53.860 Look how beautiful the harbor looks. 06:09:53.860 --> 06:09:54.860 Oh my gosh. 06:10:14.860 --> 06:10:16.100 Evicted to the entire world. 06:10:16.100 --> 06:10:17.100 This quest is good. 06:10:17.100 --> 06:10:18.100 Just not for 20. 06:10:18.100 --> 06:10:19.100 Oh yeah, that's great. 06:10:19.100 --> 06:10:20.100 No, I'm not complaining. 06:10:20.100 --> 06:10:21.100 I love it. 06:10:21.100 --> 06:10:33.820 stuff like this. So for the Darkshore one guys, I wouldn't worry if you're layered on 06:10:33.820 --> 06:10:38.380 our layer or not, just everyone get there and get it. If you're on a different layer 06:10:38.380 --> 06:10:43.300 it is what it is because it's like level 20, like low level stuff, so should be able to 06:10:43.300 --> 06:10:56.900 just get it insta it's in the ruins like here I think yeah like here ish 06:10:56.900 --> 06:11:06.900 Yeah, Nappy, you own. Thanks for linking that, man. 06:11:06.900 --> 06:11:23.620 Dude, how sick is the Stormwind Harbor? I feel like this is such a good change, man. 06:11:23.620 --> 06:11:28.100 The fact that on Alliance you could just go and take the bow and cross is the sickest 06:11:28.100 --> 06:11:29.100 thing. 06:11:29.100 --> 06:11:35.420 Cause like on Horde you go Org and you take the zap and cross, or you take the other zap 06:11:35.420 --> 06:11:42.300 and cross. 06:11:42.300 --> 06:11:52.580 I guess as Alliance you already had Menethal, but having this in Stormwind is so nice. 06:11:52.580 --> 06:11:56.740 Does Alliance have better mobility now than Horde? Or does Horde even out? I'm trying 06:11:56.740 --> 06:12:02.500 to think. 06:12:02.500 --> 06:12:11.420 Horde travel is still better? Wait, what? I feel like... no, there's no way with all 06:12:11.420 --> 06:12:18.340 these new boats. 06:12:18.340 --> 06:12:23.100 But if there was a new Zeppelin between Org and Thunderbluff, exactly, yeah. 06:12:23.100 --> 06:12:30.740 To kind of balance out the mobility on Horde, like a Zeppelin from Thunderbluff to Org. 06:12:30.740 --> 06:12:34.520 And then you could take the Zeppelin to Undercity. 06:12:34.520 --> 06:12:44.180 And then the Zeppelin to STV. 06:12:44.180 --> 06:12:45.500 No Horde already has enough. 06:12:45.500 --> 06:12:46.500 Is that like overkill? 06:12:46.500 --> 06:12:54.580 There's a flight already? 06:12:54.580 --> 06:12:59.620 Oh true, I guess you can just fly. 06:12:59.620 --> 06:13:03.500 Why is it different on Alliance? 06:13:03.500 --> 06:13:09.500 I mean on Alliance technically you don't need the Storm and Harbor, you could fly to Menethil 06:13:09.500 --> 06:13:13.780 and then take a boat. 06:13:13.780 --> 06:13:39.500 But they added it anyway and it's so nice. 06:13:39.500 --> 06:13:45.180 I don't know they probably over at blizzard they probably did the math to make sure it like kind of balanced out 06:13:45.180 --> 06:13:47.180 Hopefully they did the math at least 06:13:49.220 --> 06:13:54.340 But it seems a little alliance favored in terms of like global mobility 06:13:59.780 --> 06:14:01.780 Tabards are tabard 06:14:02.420 --> 06:14:04.420 Not yet not yet 06:14:04.460 --> 06:14:07.100 We got to finish our task at hand 06:14:07.100 --> 06:14:09.300 And soon though. 06:14:09.300 --> 06:14:16.180 Tabird soon and then we need a cloak and then I can finally play the game. 06:14:16.180 --> 06:14:20.100 I can also craft a belt and get some enchants. 06:14:20.100 --> 06:14:28.380 Guys, does anyone, has anyone found a good mage cloak at level 20? 06:14:28.380 --> 06:14:29.380 Anything? 06:14:29.380 --> 06:14:32.500 Like anything at all. 06:14:32.500 --> 06:14:34.180 I'm going to start inspecting random people. 06:14:39.860 --> 06:14:42.740 I mean this six stamina, I would use that over mine. 06:14:44.220 --> 06:14:47.700 Pre Lacy Clay Cape and I would rather have the stamina. 06:14:48.940 --> 06:14:50.540 Heavy Wollin and 06:14:52.940 --> 06:14:56.620 Superior Cloak stamina for stamina to damage. 06:14:56.900 --> 06:14:59.860 Superior Cloak of the channel are actually like that the most. 06:15:00.460 --> 06:15:03.100 You yellowed the auction house for that that one actually owns 06:15:06.460 --> 06:15:13.460 Five stamina three damage. Oh, oh, that's the rare spawn and wailing caverns though. I don't know if I'm actually gonna farm a rare spawn 06:15:23.700 --> 06:15:26.920 Yeah, I don't know if I want to farm a rare spawn that seems brutal 06:15:29.860 --> 06:15:37.820 I think the best one is legit just this one from the auction house for stamina to damage 06:15:39.660 --> 06:15:47.020 Obviously, it's not as good as the this one five stamina three damage, but this is if I'm onto a rare spawn and wailing caverns 06:15:47.020 --> 06:16:01.580 Superior cloak. Yeah, maybe I'll check that later. 06:16:01.580 --> 06:16:09.260 The Auction House is a nightmare, is it? I've liked it so far, but I haven't used it too 06:16:09.260 --> 06:16:12.180 much. 06:16:12.180 --> 06:16:18.940 the corruption quest in Ashenvale is a good cloak as well. What stats? Wailing Caverns 06:16:18.940 --> 06:16:26.660 isn't a bad farm. Can you check to see if the rare spawn is up and then is reset? It 06:16:26.660 --> 06:16:33.660 doesn't show randomly rolled stats. Oof. 06:16:33.660 --> 06:16:59.980 I'm trying to think if I want to spend the time to get perfectly best in slot or just 06:16:59.980 --> 06:17:02.680 to spend the time to level more alts. 06:17:04.840 --> 06:17:07.660 I think I just wanna level more alts. 06:17:10.620 --> 06:17:11.580 Yeah. 06:17:11.580 --> 06:17:13.780 So I don't think I'm actually gonna spend the time 06:17:13.780 --> 06:17:15.960 to try to get that Wailing Caverns cloak. 06:17:17.380 --> 06:17:18.760 Cause that could take like, what, 06:17:18.760 --> 06:17:21.260 two or three hours if we're unlucky. 06:17:21.260 --> 06:17:22.860 I could have a level 10 by then or something, 06:17:22.860 --> 06:17:24.100 or like a level, you know. 06:17:25.220 --> 06:17:26.760 Yeah, I think I'm gonna do that. 06:17:29.980 --> 06:17:46.100 You spent eight hours getting books for a ring. 06:17:46.100 --> 06:17:50.180 First of all, we haven't gotten it yet. 06:17:50.180 --> 06:17:56.020 Second of all, it's only been four hours. 06:17:56.020 --> 06:18:01.500 of all it's gonna be a ring and the neck and fourth of all you know maybe I do 06:18:01.500 --> 06:18:05.860 regret this no actually this has been this has been pretty fun I would do it 06:18:05.860 --> 06:18:10.580 again it guys it's only been four hours really 06:18:10.580 --> 06:18:29.620 I just can't wait to tell Soda Poppin to inspect me. 06:18:29.620 --> 06:18:34.300 I'm checking out my gear, it's going to be so cool, oh my gosh. 06:18:34.300 --> 06:18:37.700 Soda Poppin's going to think I'm so cool once he sees on my gear. 06:18:37.700 --> 06:18:39.780 Oh, yeah, he left toward. 06:18:39.780 --> 06:18:42.500 He can't even inspect me. 06:18:42.500 --> 06:18:50.500 Oh, jeez. 06:18:50.500 --> 06:19:02.500 Do-do-do-do-do-do. 06:19:02.500 --> 06:19:03.500 Time for Undead Pally. 06:19:03.500 --> 06:19:05.260 Make think Paul of Horde. 06:19:05.260 --> 06:19:12.300 If I do undead Pali, it'll be on the PvE rule set since I already have this character and 06:19:12.300 --> 06:19:13.300 I'm not deleting this guy. 06:19:13.300 --> 06:19:14.620 I mean look at the gear man. 06:19:14.620 --> 06:19:16.980 Like we put in the time, the energy, the effort. 06:19:16.980 --> 06:19:17.980 We have guilds. 06:19:17.980 --> 06:19:20.980 Guilds on guilds. 06:19:20.980 --> 06:19:24.980 59, 22. 06:19:24.980 --> 06:19:33.620 The pre-lacy clip. 06:19:33.620 --> 06:19:40.620 I don't even like this. Spear is useless, 4 damage. 06:19:44.300 --> 06:19:51.300 Uh, 59-22. 06:19:54.340 --> 06:20:01.340 I don't know where this thing... Oh wow, these are higher levels. 06:20:03.620 --> 06:20:08.620 Is it in here? I don't even know where it is. Let's let's kill all these though. 06:20:16.620 --> 06:20:18.620 I don't think it's in there, guys. 06:20:19.620 --> 06:20:22.620 Why does my map not have coordinates, by the way? 06:20:26.620 --> 06:20:28.620 Player map coordinates. 06:20:28.620 --> 06:20:30.620 Which is turned off. 06:20:33.620 --> 06:20:38.900 Yeah, it's like way up this way. We're not even close. It's like way over way over here 06:21:03.620 --> 06:21:18.940 six six six six where we at where we at where we at 06:21:22.980 --> 06:21:32.900 it's gotta be here somewhere boys search search search we found it nice all 06:21:32.900 --> 06:21:38.620 So we'll chill here for a second and then we go back to Darkshore and go 06:21:40.460 --> 06:21:42.620 There's a Darkshore boat to 06:21:44.900 --> 06:21:46.900 Menethil 06:21:47.020 --> 06:21:52.540 Let me think there's a Darkshore boat to Menethil right and then from Menethil 06:21:54.940 --> 06:22:00.180 We go to Theramore then in Theramore we go so we go Darkshore Menethil Theramore 06:22:02.900 --> 06:22:10.580 You didn't get it. Yeah, I got it. I got it right here 06:22:11.300 --> 06:22:19.680 One two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen 06:22:19.680 --> 06:22:33.400 one more oh my gosh one more guys this was totally worth it if you're just tuning in 06:22:33.400 --> 06:22:39.640 there's a lot yeah a lot of stats a lot of big upgrades I'm gonna be hitting so hard it's I mean 06:22:39.640 --> 06:22:41.640 This is definitely worth it. 06:22:42.440 --> 06:22:44.440 100% 06:22:49.680 --> 06:22:51.680 100% 06:22:52.000 --> 06:22:54.000 percent 06:22:54.800 --> 06:22:56.800 Worth it. Yeah, this is worth it 06:23:02.920 --> 06:23:07.260 I'm gonna wait a second while some people are collecting but this one is pretty easy to 06:23:07.260 --> 06:23:09.260 Just grab two. 06:23:12.140 --> 06:23:18.380 There's like level 18s around here 19s 20s, but it's just right there on the 06:23:19.980 --> 06:23:21.980 On the ledge 06:23:22.940 --> 06:23:26.320 Esk, thanks for the prime. I can't wait to see you do this again on launch 06:23:26.320 --> 06:23:28.320 I actually don't think I'll do it on launch 06:23:30.140 --> 06:23:33.660 Because I max level this won't be worth it and we're not capped at 20 so 06:23:37.260 --> 06:23:54.140 What about the 30 book reward maybe maybe 06:23:54.140 --> 06:24:02.760 All right one more boys one more Darkshore menethal 06:24:02.760 --> 06:24:11.480 there are more that's where we're going and then after that we'll make a quick 06:24:11.480 --> 06:24:17.240 guild tabard and then after that 06:24:19.800 --> 06:24:26.560 honestly I don't even think I'm gonna farm that blue cloak yes screw that now 06:24:26.560 --> 06:24:28.560 After that we can finally play the game. 06:24:40.360 --> 06:24:45.840 Duel's win. I'm actually down to hit up some Duel's. I've only done what like five Duel's on this guy? 06:24:46.640 --> 06:24:49.760 All yesterday. I haven't even like done much. 06:24:51.840 --> 06:24:53.840 Kind of want to respect too. 06:24:56.560 --> 06:25:05.720 Oh, yeah, I was gonna check out Riverglades today. 06:25:05.720 --> 06:25:07.280 Maybe I'll do that tomorrow. 06:25:07.280 --> 06:25:11.520 I don't really feel like running across the world right now. 06:25:11.520 --> 06:25:14.200 Wait, how do you even get the Riverglades? 06:25:14.200 --> 06:25:16.200 Is it through Red Ridge? 06:25:16.200 --> 06:25:25.800 Yeah, it's probably through Red Ridge, huh? 06:25:25.800 --> 06:25:29.400 that we can finally play the game he's been saying that for six hours I mean 06:25:29.400 --> 06:25:33.280 that's how wow gets you yeah all day you're thinking if I just have this one 06:25:33.280 --> 06:25:38.800 thing it's gonna be so much more fun I'm gonna have so much more Prague you 06:25:38.800 --> 06:25:40.960 know 06:25:47.080 --> 06:25:50.880 use letrix maps 06:25:55.800 --> 06:26:12.440 Let's go through there or like here. 06:26:12.440 --> 06:26:14.440 Yeah, Leecherix maps is pretty goaded. 06:26:27.000 --> 06:26:30.000 What level do I get? Iceland's 20. 06:26:30.000 --> 06:26:32.000 You get it right here in your talent tree. 06:26:42.440 --> 06:27:06.880 It's the north side of Red Ridge, it's the Y path, river glids, burning steps, so you 06:27:06.880 --> 06:27:18.960 go like here or something. Interesting. What's the main goal for today? My main goal was to 06:27:18.960 --> 06:27:26.000 just get a ring really quick from collecting all the books around the world. And then I 06:27:26.000 --> 06:27:33.880 was going to, after that, I was going to form a bisque cloak, check out the riverglades, 06:27:33.880 --> 06:27:39.460 PvP and duals then do world PvP and then make an alt that was my plan for the day 06:27:44.120 --> 06:27:46.120 So 06:27:56.680 --> 06:27:58.680 Yep 06:27:58.680 --> 06:28:01.600 Six hours later 19 books 06:28:02.800 --> 06:28:09.040 But I did reacts for two hours, so it's only been four hours and people told me it would take seven so technically 06:28:09.440 --> 06:28:11.440 They were wrong 06:28:19.520 --> 06:28:21.960 This finger frost proc off armor chill 06:28:24.000 --> 06:28:26.000 I would have 06:28:26.000 --> 06:28:30.640 Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know. We don't have fingers of frost yet to test 06:28:32.960 --> 06:28:34.960 It's a chill effect 06:28:42.560 --> 06:28:44.560 Do I feel like a winner I do 06:28:46.160 --> 06:28:48.160 Wait, is this the right boat? 06:28:48.640 --> 06:28:51.120 How much stamina do I have? I have 06:28:52.880 --> 06:28:54.880 987 health I don't know how much stamina 06:28:57.000 --> 06:28:59.000 91 stamina 06:29:03.880 --> 06:29:05.880 Whoop-whoop 06:29:07.000 --> 06:29:09.000 Whoop-whoop 06:29:12.560 --> 06:29:17.200 Will the Q&A happen during server tomorrow? I don't think there's another Q&A 06:29:18.320 --> 06:29:23.520 That's on sky born 15 minute racial buff. I feel like it's a bit slept on and it doesn't fall off in dungeons 06:29:26.000 --> 06:29:33.920 It's only 15 minutes if you do it on a lay line, right? If you do it normally it's like one minute or something like that 06:29:36.640 --> 06:29:38.840 Zero lay lines and dungeons, yeah 06:29:40.120 --> 06:29:45.740 30 seconds, I feel like you won't find the lay lines enough to keep it up 15 minutes. That could be wrong, you know 06:29:47.920 --> 06:29:50.320 These are the type of guy to have an apple in his fridge 06:29:52.040 --> 06:29:54.040 Yeah, yeah 06:29:54.040 --> 06:30:00.040 Zar, if I complete quest after 20, do I lose the XP? 06:30:00.040 --> 06:30:22.040 Yes, XP is capped, so if you turn it in right now, it's gone. 06:30:22.040 --> 06:30:25.640 The water finally dried, Edgar. We're good. We're good. We're good. 06:30:30.440 --> 06:30:30.940 Okay. 06:30:31.140 --> 06:30:34.640 Um, so now we go to the other boat, the Theramore. 06:30:35.740 --> 06:30:38.440 This one you do have to be a little bit of a higher level for, 06:30:38.940 --> 06:30:42.240 because, you know, Theramore at level 20 is a bit scary, so... 06:30:43.340 --> 06:30:44.440 It'll be a little iffy. 06:30:44.440 --> 06:30:55.880 Oh, I guess jumping off early is the meta here. 06:30:55.880 --> 06:31:04.080 Sharks, I feel like I can see sharks now, Pixie, because the water is so beautiful and 06:31:04.080 --> 06:31:05.080 clear. 06:31:05.080 --> 06:31:07.080 It's not like murky like before 06:31:14.800 --> 06:31:21.160 Wait someone says your XP bar is still enabled at 20 wait what no 06:31:22.440 --> 06:31:27.560 No, that's fake news. That's fake news. It's definitely capped right 06:31:30.960 --> 06:31:32.960 Displayed but not enabled yeah 06:31:32.960 --> 06:31:37.960 That's an actually move. Complete fake news. 06:31:48.960 --> 06:31:50.960 Oh, there's an alligator. Tiny, watch out! 06:31:51.960 --> 06:31:52.960 Tiny! 06:31:53.960 --> 06:31:56.960 Tiny? I can't help you, it's under the boat! 06:31:56.960 --> 06:31:58.960 Run, Tiny, run! 06:32:02.960 --> 06:32:08.600 He's getting hit by a croc through the bottom dude. Okay 06:32:23.440 --> 06:32:25.440 We have almost the whole raid here nice 06:32:32.960 --> 06:32:40.520 I don't know if we're going to do any more giveaways today. 06:32:40.520 --> 06:32:41.760 We'll keep doing more tomorrow. 06:32:41.760 --> 06:32:49.640 I might need to see if we can ask for some more too to run it out. 06:32:49.640 --> 06:32:52.600 It's the axis doesn't exist, never has. 06:32:52.600 --> 06:32:53.600 True. 06:32:53.600 --> 06:32:58.320 Oh, look at the look at the water in the boat, man. 06:32:58.320 --> 06:33:00.120 In the distant in the horizon. 06:33:00.120 --> 06:33:02.200 Oh my gosh, bro. 06:33:02.680 --> 06:33:05.640 Game looks so good, bro 06:33:13.240 --> 06:33:18.360 And the setting where you can see your character through walls is kind of crazy 06:33:18.360 --> 06:33:38.880 kind of nuts retail tech yeah that's crazy what is that setting um fatality what is that 06:33:38.880 --> 06:33:49.120 setting so show silhouette when obscured in the combat settings so if you're like 06:33:49.120 --> 06:33:53.360 behind a thing like you can still see your character 06:33:56.760 --> 06:34:05.440 that kind of nuts watch out guys sharks there's a shark right there watch 06:34:05.440 --> 06:34:06.440 Watch out, careful. 06:34:12.440 --> 06:34:14.440 Oh, extra small just fell. 06:34:14.440 --> 06:34:15.440 Good luck, bro. 06:34:16.440 --> 06:34:18.440 Alright, so we want to stay tight here, my friends. 06:34:18.440 --> 06:34:19.440 Tight, tight, tight. 06:34:20.440 --> 06:34:23.440 We want to get to a round where Shwifty is. 06:34:24.440 --> 06:34:25.440 Ish. 06:34:26.440 --> 06:34:28.440 Yeah, it's like right up here. 06:34:28.440 --> 06:34:29.440 How is this guy not dead? 06:34:29.440 --> 06:34:31.440 How did you get there solo, bro? 06:34:32.440 --> 06:34:34.440 So we'll run up there, we'll get it. 06:34:34.440 --> 06:34:36.440 And then after that, we are done. 06:34:41.400 --> 06:34:47.560 And we'll turn it in and we'll get such insane gear and we're just gonna sit outside until people inspect us. That's what we're gonna do. 06:34:57.240 --> 06:35:01.240 Make sure to get the flight path if you care, which you should probably. 06:35:04.440 --> 06:35:11.740 Starting a warrior today or tomorrow dude people have been telling me warriors like in a certain spot 06:35:13.000 --> 06:35:16.440 Everyone has been telling me Pali's are just insane. Maybe I just do Pali first 06:35:16.840 --> 06:35:19.920 Hope that there's hot fixes for warrior than do warrior third 06:35:21.480 --> 06:35:28.320 Mage then Pali then warrior. I don't know if I can go on bed unless I go in the PvE realm and I don't really want to do that 06:35:28.320 --> 06:35:37.340 Do I I mean I could go under Pallium. Yeah, how many you guys type PvP or PvE in the chat? 06:35:37.340 --> 06:35:39.740 Are you PvE rule set or PvP? Oh 06:35:42.900 --> 06:35:45.980 Wait what there's a lot of you guys wait hold on let me do a quick poll 06:35:51.240 --> 06:35:53.240 I'm doing a quick poll right now 06:35:54.260 --> 06:35:57.380 Everybody vote in the poll it's on the top of the chat and then on YouTube 06:35:57.380 --> 06:35:59.940 You know what youtubers? I love you guys. We'll do a pull on YouTube as well 06:36:11.460 --> 06:36:20.900 So it looks like 60% PvP 40% PvE. I could just make an undead Pali on the PvE realm 06:36:20.900 --> 06:36:29.260 I'll think about it to have one on each on the PvE rules that I should say 06:36:32.940 --> 06:36:36.700 Explain the pull title. I think it's pretty self-explanatory Gabby 06:36:36.700 --> 06:36:53.820 That's what I saw myself, Noddych. I'm glad you double checked to make sure that was the 06:36:53.820 --> 06:36:59.260 case. Yo, Noddych thanks for the Twitch Prime. And yo, nice meeting you at the Sheraton Lobby 06:36:59.260 --> 06:37:05.580 last week, man. GG's. Big Fish thanks for the Prime. Panic thanks for the Prime. Foo, 06:37:05.580 --> 06:37:07.540 She ditched the probe. 06:37:07.540 --> 06:37:08.380 Okay, where are we going? 06:37:08.380 --> 06:37:09.700 5721. 06:37:17.660 --> 06:37:18.620 It's like around here. 06:37:18.620 --> 06:37:20.180 How do you put a marker down? 06:37:21.780 --> 06:37:23.220 Guys, how do you put a mark? 06:37:23.220 --> 06:37:25.140 Oh, not pin. 06:37:29.380 --> 06:37:32.900 You can share this location by linking it in the chat. 06:37:35.580 --> 06:37:37.580 Or I'm there 06:37:41.300 --> 06:37:45.500 Ragnocen thanks for the Prime buff. Oh, it's control click as well. Thanks guys 06:37:53.940 --> 06:38:00.340 Oh wait someone just said you can select your other wow account when logging in to go to PvP horde, that's what I did 06:38:00.340 --> 06:38:05.340 Wait, does that work? 06:38:05.340 --> 06:38:08.340 Holy crap, boys. 06:38:08.340 --> 06:38:10.340 Murlocs everywhere. 06:38:10.340 --> 06:38:12.340 Wait, where is it? 06:38:12.340 --> 06:38:14.340 Where's the book? 06:38:14.340 --> 06:38:16.340 Eastern edge of the murloc. 06:38:16.340 --> 06:38:17.340 Yo, it's like right around here. 06:38:17.340 --> 06:38:18.340 Guys, we're gonna have to fight this out. 06:38:18.340 --> 06:38:21.340 Guys, we're gonna have to fight this out. 06:38:21.340 --> 06:38:23.340 Start killing these Murlocs. 06:38:23.340 --> 06:38:25.340 Melee, hunters, do your thing. 06:38:25.340 --> 06:38:27.340 Let's go, let's go, let's go. 06:38:27.340 --> 06:38:29.340 It heals on me. 06:38:29.340 --> 06:38:35.180 Oh crap we can do this guys hold 06:38:39.020 --> 06:38:42.940 Crap I might need a bop. I might need a bop. I don't know 06:38:50.020 --> 06:38:52.020 This is okay 06:38:55.540 --> 06:38:57.540 Everything we have guys 06:38:57.540 --> 06:38:59.540 Oh door 06:39:00.500 --> 06:39:02.660 Okay, this is this is not not good 06:39:04.340 --> 06:39:07.940 Good thing we have a raid group holy crap. Okay one down one down 06:39:09.260 --> 06:39:12.620 Next one next one. I'm working on with skulls single target single target 06:39:17.140 --> 06:39:22.100 Okay, well, I think we're actually doing it we're not actually losing too many players because our healers are locked in and dialed and cracked 06:39:28.300 --> 06:39:34.940 Okay, oh when I said that big speed is died true if I don't know if you a B res but we can we can we can res the dead here 06:39:35.900 --> 06:39:38.700 What's the goal here? We're killing murlocs and spiders I 06:39:49.060 --> 06:39:51.980 Just tried it it doesn't let me select other wow accounts I see 06:39:51.980 --> 06:40:00.480 I mean, I wouldn't mind making one guy on the PvE rules set. 06:40:00.480 --> 06:40:02.320 I could do an undead Pali there. 06:40:02.320 --> 06:40:06.560 It would be more like just to test out leveling in the dungeons and I could like duel, but 06:40:06.560 --> 06:40:10.240 I wouldn't, if I wanted the world PvP I'd log to my mage. 06:40:10.240 --> 06:40:17.960 Okay, so the book is probably somewhere here. 06:40:17.960 --> 06:40:19.600 Anyone sees it, let me know. 06:40:19.600 --> 06:40:22.940 We can start killing like one Merlok at a time. 06:40:22.940 --> 06:40:27.480 One Merlok at a time guys. 06:40:27.480 --> 06:40:29.480 What guys what? 06:40:29.480 --> 06:40:32.360 What do you understand about one Merlok at a time? 06:40:32.360 --> 06:40:38.600 Alright fine, kill them all, kill them all. 06:40:38.600 --> 06:40:40.440 Jehovah's just went down. 06:40:40.440 --> 06:40:41.440 They're on Geek now. 06:40:41.440 --> 06:40:42.440 Big heals on spare. 06:40:42.440 --> 06:40:43.440 Big AEs here. 06:40:43.440 --> 06:40:47.800 Man good thing we saved this one for last. 06:40:47.800 --> 06:40:48.720 This one's rough. 06:40:50.360 --> 06:40:52.920 Oh, nice guys, nice. 06:40:52.920 --> 06:40:55.460 All right, everybody dial it in. 06:40:55.460 --> 06:40:56.880 Dial it in. 06:40:56.880 --> 06:40:58.680 Why are you guys looting? 06:40:58.680 --> 06:41:01.800 Who's looting at the camp? 06:41:01.800 --> 06:41:04.280 You sneaky beavers, get over here. 06:41:04.280 --> 06:41:05.620 What are you doing? 06:41:06.720 --> 06:41:08.800 You're looting the book, we're in war. 06:41:11.320 --> 06:41:13.020 Get over here, guys. 06:41:13.840 --> 06:41:15.240 Help the squad. 06:41:18.680 --> 06:41:20.680 We got murlocs 06:41:23.240 --> 06:41:26.920 Oh, oh my god. Oh my gosh. Oh 06:41:28.400 --> 06:41:29.720 Who is it? 06:41:29.720 --> 06:41:33.680 No one in my guild. No one in my guilds over here. I know it forever hype 06:41:34.440 --> 06:41:39.840 Forever hype forever hype there is an Olympus over here, but that's what is going on 06:41:39.840 --> 06:41:41.840 on 06:41:45.640 --> 06:41:47.640 Unbelievable on unbelievable 06:41:52.320 --> 06:41:57.880 All right, everybody single-file line. I'm sure we can all make a line right or alliance 06:41:59.320 --> 06:42:03.080 We're civilized we're a civilized people we can make a line 06:42:05.040 --> 06:42:08.120 No, no, all right everyone just spam click, you know whatever 06:42:09.840 --> 06:42:23.140 guys don't stand up guys we don't want to stand on top of it you want to stand to the 06:42:23.140 --> 06:42:39.080 side of it guys who is on who is standing on it who is that 06:42:39.080 --> 06:42:40.860 Trevor Corey is standing on it. 06:42:43.300 --> 06:42:46.500 Your friend is standing on it. 06:42:47.700 --> 06:42:49.320 It's my turn move. 06:42:52.580 --> 06:42:54.640 Guys, that is 20 books. 06:42:56.280 --> 06:42:57.600 Four and a half hours. 06:42:57.600 --> 06:42:58.540 That was fast. 06:42:58.540 --> 06:43:00.640 Four and a half hours, guys. 06:43:05.400 --> 06:43:06.520 Well done, squad. 06:43:06.520 --> 06:43:07.360 Well done. 06:43:09.840 --> 06:43:11.840 Let's get the heck out of here, huh? 06:43:14.600 --> 06:43:16.600 There's people summoning right now 06:43:18.080 --> 06:43:21.540 In the in the third raid or the second raid 06:43:27.140 --> 06:43:33.280 Yeah, you showed that guy he said six hours true I showed him 06:43:33.280 --> 06:43:44.720 is it time to go get our fat loot? I think it's about time. Someone says can we redo 06:43:44.720 --> 06:43:50.820 that again? I need it on my alt. Dude seriously not worth doing on an alt. No way. No way 06:43:50.820 --> 06:43:57.320 is that worth doing on an alt. No shot. Is that worth doing on an alt? 06:43:57.320 --> 06:44:08.320 Alright, hey Mr. Librarian. 06:44:08.320 --> 06:44:12.320 I got some books for ya, Mr. Librarian. 06:44:12.320 --> 06:44:17.320 Oh yeah. 06:44:17.320 --> 06:44:20.320 Oh yeah. 06:44:20.320 --> 06:44:24.320 Oh yeah. 06:44:24.320 --> 06:44:27.320 Oh, yeah. 06:44:27.320 --> 06:44:35.060 Oh, yeah, guys, extra one stamina. 06:44:35.060 --> 06:44:40.600 That's what we do it for, boys, plus one stamp. 06:44:40.600 --> 06:44:42.880 Four and a half hours on Tanki. 06:44:42.880 --> 06:44:45.400 Don't mess with me. 06:44:45.400 --> 06:44:47.160 There it is. 06:44:47.160 --> 06:44:59.960 extra stamina on the neck on a beta level 20 I'm feeling good now wow I'm 06:44:59.960 --> 06:45:05.560 feeling good that's so big 06:45:17.160 --> 06:45:24.720 What what there's no way I miscounted am I is that 19 06:45:32.600 --> 06:45:37.440 I've been saying for four hours, what do you what have you been saying? 06:45:47.160 --> 06:45:52.760 What no, oh no, bro, I counted so many times 06:46:09.200 --> 06:46:11.200 Oh, there it is 06:46:11.200 --> 06:46:20.580 It was a turd in behind me boys. Oh my gosh sit down. Okay sit down everybody chill 06:46:20.580 --> 06:46:28.080 Oh my gosh. I was like brah. There's no way this is what we do it for guys right here 06:46:29.480 --> 06:46:31.480 We gain 10 06:46:32.040 --> 06:46:36.840 Damage and healing on magical spells big ring here guys 06:46:38.260 --> 06:46:39.640 big 06:46:39.640 --> 06:46:41.640 Big ring here guys 06:46:43.160 --> 06:46:47.100 Losing seven stem not worth. No, it's only four stamina. I 06:46:47.980 --> 06:46:49.980 only lose four stamina 06:46:51.200 --> 06:46:53.540 So I'm gonna keep my seven stem for damaging 06:46:57.540 --> 06:47:00.540 How hard is that quest oh, it's easy man, it'll just take you like 30 minutes 06:47:01.980 --> 06:47:03.680 Cool 06:47:03.680 --> 06:47:09.000 Let's go make a darn guild power bird. We have 17 gold. Let's go spend 10 of it for the good of the guild 06:47:10.440 --> 06:47:12.440 For the good of the guild 06:47:17.360 --> 06:47:19.360 Okay 06:47:20.760 --> 06:47:23.000 Man, I'm feeling so strong I 06:47:25.680 --> 06:47:30.440 Could also go make that belt could also get some in-chance 06:47:32.240 --> 06:47:36.240 Leni thanks for the t1 machine. Oh, thanks for the prime. How do you have 17 gold? 06:47:36.240 --> 06:47:47.480 Dude, I was farmed. I do a lot of farming off stream. A lot of farming. Lots of farming. 06:47:47.480 --> 06:47:52.480 A lot. 06:47:52.480 --> 06:48:04.160 Uh, taverns. 06:48:04.160 --> 06:48:09.160 the game looks so good guys. It looks so good. It looks so good. 06:48:14.160 --> 06:48:15.160 Help you find something? 06:48:18.160 --> 06:48:21.160 Safe travels. Looking for something specific. 06:48:21.160 --> 06:48:25.160 Alright boys, what's the vibe for forever hype? Oh, forever. 06:48:25.160 --> 06:48:30.160 Forever, eternity, there's this, is that too cliche? 06:48:31.880 --> 06:48:36.880 I mean, obviously, but like, it might be too cliche. 06:48:40.020 --> 06:48:42.640 I might be too obvious, guys, 06:48:42.640 --> 06:48:44.760 but our name is literally forever hype. 06:48:48.440 --> 06:48:50.960 Hold on, let's look at some other options. 06:48:50.960 --> 06:48:52.920 This one's like too obvious. 06:48:52.920 --> 06:48:59.920 I don't know why I don't why it kind of goes hard actually know it doesn't look stupid. 06:48:59.920 --> 06:49:22.420 Okay, let's look at other icons stars is this like forever hype like a sunset. 06:49:22.420 --> 06:49:34.260 You do that one every time because it looks sick. 06:49:34.260 --> 06:49:37.060 Guys our guild name is literally forever hype. 06:49:37.060 --> 06:49:40.100 What embodies forever hype? 06:49:40.100 --> 06:49:49.340 It's literally the infinity sign. 06:49:49.340 --> 06:49:50.340 The turtle? 06:49:50.340 --> 06:49:51.340 What? 06:49:51.340 --> 06:49:52.500 This isn't turtle wow. 06:49:53.900 --> 06:49:57.120 Use your new spell, research the magical arts. 06:49:58.260 --> 06:49:59.660 Requires a lot. 06:49:59.660 --> 06:50:01.740 Whoa, okay, hold up, hold up. 06:50:01.740 --> 06:50:03.580 Whoa, I didn't even notice we got this. 06:50:03.580 --> 06:50:06.500 I will check that out in a second. 06:50:06.500 --> 06:50:09.100 We gotta make this tab bird, that's cool. 06:50:09.100 --> 06:50:10.340 Gotta go to the library. 06:50:17.340 --> 06:50:18.940 That's like horde icons. 06:50:18.940 --> 06:50:30.300 more horde icons I'm not a shaman forever hype forever hype forever hype 06:50:30.300 --> 06:50:37.020 forever hype forever hype what's what's super hype for forever 06:50:38.500 --> 06:50:43.980 forever hype forever hype 06:50:43.980 --> 06:50:57.740 Forever hype. 06:50:57.740 --> 06:51:00.340 There's a tree. 06:51:00.340 --> 06:51:03.820 There's a book. 06:51:03.820 --> 06:51:13.660 Tiger, dragon, boots, a shell, eyes? 06:51:13.660 --> 06:51:17.740 kinda cool, a lock. I like this one too, but I've done this one in the past. I like the 06:51:17.740 --> 06:51:22.300 ones I like, man. There's like three of them that are good. The rest kinda suck. That one's 06:51:22.300 --> 06:51:24.300 kinda cool. 06:51:32.300 --> 06:51:37.820 So Roach. There's a muffin, there's a bear. I actually love the skeleton one too, but that's 06:51:37.820 --> 06:51:47.820 more of a horde thing can't do that on alliance uh there's an eyeball okay our 06:51:47.820 --> 06:51:54.820 glass has to do with time forever hype 06:52:01.300 --> 06:52:04.820 wait that's the opposite of forever though because it's like this isn't 06:52:04.820 --> 06:52:10.880 forever we're on a time no this is the opposite of forever guys this is not 06:52:10.880 --> 06:52:23.160 forever the infinity symbol is forever that is that is on a time limit forever 06:52:23.160 --> 06:52:32.160 hype dead game flood diamonds diamonds are forever 06:52:34.820 --> 06:52:36.820 Huh? 06:52:38.380 --> 06:52:40.380 Diamonds? 06:52:44.300 --> 06:52:46.300 Guys I 06:52:47.300 --> 06:52:53.620 Feel like it's just it's too good our name is forever hype and it's an infinity symbol 06:52:53.620 --> 06:52:55.620 I don't think we can do anything else 06:52:58.060 --> 06:53:03.140 Everyone in the guild what do you guys want? What do you guys want everyone in the guild? 06:53:04.820 --> 06:53:06.820 They'll have to do the colors. 06:53:08.820 --> 06:53:11.820 Diamonds, vists, diamonds, hourglass, 06:53:12.820 --> 06:53:15.820 infinity, infinity, hourglass, infinity, 06:53:16.820 --> 06:53:21.820 hourglass, infinity, hourglass, infinity. 06:53:22.820 --> 06:53:24.820 Well, yeah, we'll redo the colors. 06:53:24.820 --> 06:53:27.820 Infinity, infinity, or diamond, diamond, diamond, 06:53:27.820 --> 06:53:29.820 infinity, diamond, infinity. 06:53:30.820 --> 06:53:32.820 Let me look at a diamond again. 06:53:32.820 --> 06:53:39.820 What kind of colors is forever hype all about? 06:53:39.820 --> 06:53:48.820 Definitely blue. 06:53:48.820 --> 06:53:52.820 Why? 06:53:52.820 --> 06:53:56.820 What color is a diamond? 06:53:56.820 --> 06:54:01.820 Diamonds like white, right? 06:54:01.820 --> 06:54:25.740 Border icon color. 06:54:25.740 --> 06:54:28.020 I do my favorite background color is this one. 06:54:28.020 --> 06:54:29.260 I love this one. 06:54:29.260 --> 06:54:31.780 I kind of want to do this background color because we didn't do it in our live. 06:54:31.780 --> 06:54:40.700 last skill and I wanted to then we didn't icon infinity icon color dude that 06:54:40.700 --> 06:54:46.460 kind of goes hard dude I have like such different tastes in a lot of people I 06:54:46.460 --> 06:54:50.860 like really like minimal basic I actually think that was hard but but hold 06:54:50.860 --> 06:54:54.900 on let me let me let me let me go a little more normie let's look at normie 06:54:54.900 --> 06:54:57.540 for a second 06:55:01.780 --> 06:55:03.780 I 06:55:06.300 --> 06:55:09.700 Think I think that's a little more normie and that kind of goes hard, too 06:55:14.060 --> 06:55:16.060 Basic is best I 06:55:16.420 --> 06:55:20.540 Mean, I like that like the brown on black. I think it was really hard 06:55:22.260 --> 06:55:25.220 But the brown on gold also is kind of hard 06:55:27.100 --> 06:55:31.620 That looks really good. Yeah, I mean that looks clean 06:55:31.780 --> 06:55:34.540 It's a little more normie to I 06:55:37.720 --> 06:55:43.100 Love that background color like that's the black on brown. I I personally like this better 06:55:43.100 --> 06:55:45.260 But I can get that people wouldn't like that as much 06:55:45.900 --> 06:55:48.400 It's actually kind of hard to see to from where you got like 06:55:49.620 --> 06:55:51.620 IP 06:55:51.620 --> 06:55:56.200 Let me look let me go back to gold real quick. I think more people will like the gold so maybe we go with the gold 06:56:01.780 --> 06:56:06.780 I don't know if there is an 06:56:06.780 --> 06:56:13.780 Emerald sounds sick. I don't know if there is an Emerald. Let me look. So this is what the diamond looks like. And then I'll show you on my tune. 06:56:13.780 --> 06:56:16.780 That's what it looks like on my tune. 06:56:16.780 --> 06:56:21.780 And then the infinities that I think they had finnity looks cooler guys. I didn't get finnity. 06:56:21.780 --> 06:56:28.780 I think it's it's it's like too obvious, but at the same time, it's too obvious. So it's like we kind of see what happens. 06:56:28.780 --> 06:56:32.540 But at the same time it's too obvious. So it's like we kind of send it 06:56:37.620 --> 06:56:42.280 Royal purple and gold diamond. I thought of purple tabard 06:56:45.160 --> 06:56:47.160 Try emerald infinity 06:56:50.300 --> 06:56:55.900 Emerald like you're talking green like emerald as a color 06:56:58.780 --> 06:57:05.780 Infinity, but black, not gold. 06:57:05.780 --> 06:57:19.780 I think I like that, I think I like that. 06:57:19.780 --> 06:57:22.340 I think I like that, I think I like that. 06:57:22.340 --> 06:57:26.500 I think my favorite is the black one, but I think this one is really cool too. 06:57:26.500 --> 06:57:28.100 I think more people will like the gold too. 06:57:29.840 --> 06:57:30.340 Alright. 06:57:35.000 --> 06:57:36.200 This is 10 gold. 06:57:39.000 --> 06:57:41.800 10 hard earned gold here guys. 06:57:41.800 --> 06:57:42.800 Boom, there it is. 06:57:42.800 --> 06:57:43.800 Emblem saved. 06:57:44.600 --> 06:57:45.800 Hopefully I didn't mess it up. 06:57:46.100 --> 06:57:47.500 Why is my cape on, man? 06:57:48.600 --> 06:57:50.800 We gotta turn that off on the transmog, dude. 06:57:53.500 --> 06:57:54.800 Aw, yeah. 06:57:55.300 --> 06:57:56.400 I look tough. 06:57:56.500 --> 06:58:03.740 Bro, look at my female gnome. I look tough. Don't mess with me guys. I collected books for four and a half hours 06:58:03.900 --> 06:58:05.900 We got the philanthropist ring 06:58:06.500 --> 06:58:08.980 We got this plus one stem neck. Oh 06:58:10.260 --> 06:58:12.260 Man, we're tough 06:58:14.460 --> 06:58:16.460 Guys is the trans one guy up 06:58:20.180 --> 06:58:23.100 Should have read the books. Oh, yeah, true speaking and reading books 06:58:26.500 --> 06:58:36.420 guys I look super tough you have to use the transmog person to turn off the 06:58:36.420 --> 06:58:39.780 cloak that's what I'm gonna do yeah I might leave my head on but I think I 06:58:39.780 --> 06:58:46.420 want to take that cloak off cloak is kind of troll can we get a stat check 06:58:46.420 --> 06:58:53.440 primary attributes right there show your build I actually want to respect man 06:58:53.440 --> 06:58:55.860 And that, that tabard actually goes hard. 06:58:55.860 --> 06:58:58.860 I used my favorite color tabard, the dark brown one. 06:58:58.860 --> 06:59:01.180 Where's the transmog dude? 06:59:01.180 --> 06:59:04.460 Isn't he in here? 06:59:04.460 --> 06:59:08.780 Is he not in the game yet? 06:59:08.780 --> 06:59:11.220 Mog is next to the wizard tower? 06:59:11.220 --> 06:59:14.620 Oh really? 06:59:14.620 --> 06:59:19.780 They moved him from retail, huh? 06:59:19.780 --> 06:59:21.780 Okay. 06:59:21.780 --> 06:59:28.660 I can almost finally play the game. 06:59:28.660 --> 06:59:29.940 I'm almost having fun now. 06:59:29.940 --> 06:59:36.340 Oh my gosh. 06:59:36.340 --> 06:59:38.340 Do, do, do, do, do, do. 06:59:49.700 --> 06:59:51.940 Academy of Arcane Arts and Sciences. 06:59:53.660 --> 06:59:56.500 So when I turned in all those books, 06:59:56.500 --> 07:00:01.500 I got something called comprehension. 07:00:01.500 --> 07:00:04.140 It's research, research magical arts 07:00:04.140 --> 07:00:06.180 with the help of a library. 07:00:06.180 --> 07:00:10.560 Now that I'm in a library, I can study with light feathers. 07:00:14.920 --> 07:00:15.960 I haven't seen this yet. 07:00:15.960 --> 07:00:17.200 What is this? 07:00:18.900 --> 07:00:23.080 It's trying to be like Minecraft with the library books. 07:00:28.320 --> 07:00:33.320 Oh, once per hour, you can make scrolls with feathers. 07:00:36.180 --> 07:00:39.500 That's a fun little thingy. 07:00:39.500 --> 07:00:40.500 I don't mind it. 07:00:40.500 --> 07:00:47.420 I mean, it's not like crazy, crazy either, but that's kind of fun. 07:00:47.420 --> 07:00:48.820 That's kind of fun. 07:00:48.820 --> 07:00:49.820 Cute? 07:00:49.820 --> 07:00:53.180 Yeah, it's a little cute. 07:00:53.180 --> 07:00:55.980 I don't mind it. 07:00:55.980 --> 07:00:57.980 I don't mind it. 07:00:57.980 --> 07:01:00.180 Oh yeah, transmog. 07:01:00.180 --> 07:01:02.660 Got to turn this cloak off. 07:01:02.660 --> 07:01:07.860 I was also going to maybe respec into Frostbite, but I might see if they drop Respec cost tomorrow. 07:01:09.060 --> 07:01:10.380 I have a feeling they will. 07:01:11.060 --> 07:01:12.660 Proven's Gaming thanks to the Primeman. 07:01:25.300 --> 07:01:27.060 Archmage... 07:01:29.380 --> 07:01:30.780 Oh, Transmogrifier. 07:01:32.660 --> 07:01:47.080 So I have transmog turned off right now, but that means you can still hide your cloak. 07:01:47.080 --> 07:01:51.140 I don't I like they should just put that in the options, but that's fine too, I guess, 07:01:51.140 --> 07:01:54.320 whatever. 07:01:54.320 --> 07:01:55.320 Enable it. 07:01:55.320 --> 07:01:56.880 Heck no. 07:01:56.880 --> 07:01:58.040 You can't make me. 07:01:58.040 --> 07:02:00.080 You can't make me. 07:02:00.080 --> 07:02:04.440 Did you say wand specs best for leveling? 07:02:04.440 --> 07:02:07.320 Wand specs like best for DPS but it depends on what wand you have. 07:02:07.320 --> 07:02:09.080 For leveling I'd probably just go frost. 07:02:09.080 --> 07:02:11.560 Rusty and I, thanks for the prime dude. 07:02:11.560 --> 07:02:13.840 Do I see others hitting cloak? 07:02:13.840 --> 07:02:15.600 I don't know about that. 07:02:15.600 --> 07:02:17.640 I think I would. 07:02:17.640 --> 07:02:18.640 Hidden cloak. 07:02:18.640 --> 07:02:21.400 So this guy is a hidden cloak and I don't see it. 07:02:21.400 --> 07:02:22.400 So that still works. 07:02:22.400 --> 07:02:24.760 So I think maybe. 07:02:24.760 --> 07:02:25.760 Wait. 07:02:25.760 --> 07:02:30.040 Yeah, this guy has a cloak on and I can see his cloak because it's not hidden. 07:02:30.040 --> 07:02:34.040 So yeah, it does show. So that's cool. 07:02:34.040 --> 07:02:38.040 How do I get gold? 07:02:38.040 --> 07:02:42.040 Um... 07:02:42.040 --> 07:02:46.040 Good, uh... 07:02:46.040 --> 07:02:51.040 I mean, lots of ways to make gold. I mean, depends on how you want to do it, too. 07:02:51.040 --> 07:02:56.040 Lots of different ways you can do it. It's not one simple way. 07:02:56.040 --> 07:02:58.800 It depends on what you like doing too. 07:03:06.680 --> 07:03:07.680 Oh. 07:03:14.140 --> 07:03:15.260 Oh! 07:03:15.260 --> 07:03:37.820 What you literally can't see the stats on the cloaks on the auction house. 07:03:37.820 --> 07:03:38.820 What? 07:03:38.820 --> 07:03:39.820 Okay. 07:03:39.820 --> 07:03:42.780 Okay, I'm gonna report that as a bug once that guys 07:03:53.880 --> 07:03:58.020 You can wait how before I report this how 07:03:59.820 --> 07:04:03.100 That's not a bug that's absolutely not intended 07:04:04.740 --> 07:04:08.620 Someone told me that earlier. I didn't believe them, but yeah auction house not showing 07:04:08.620 --> 07:04:20.260 stats of named items it's like that on retail too okay well shouldn't be like 07:04:20.260 --> 07:04:29.860 that in classic why you literally have to just YOLO buy things so this is 26 07:04:29.860 --> 07:04:37.780 silver should I YOLO buy like three of them and see if it YOLO goes to one of 07:04:37.780 --> 07:04:47.080 gets to spell power. No, that's stupid. This could, this could have rolled to my best in 07:04:47.080 --> 07:05:02.900 slot cloak. It's a bug, you can see stats on retail. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can. 07:05:02.900 --> 07:05:05.700 Should I buy one? 07:05:05.700 --> 07:05:08.580 Guys, should I buy one superior cloak? 07:05:17.700 --> 07:05:18.980 OK, item is not found. 07:05:25.180 --> 07:05:27.340 OK, it's of the bear. 07:05:27.340 --> 07:05:29.620 I'm going to buy another. 07:05:29.620 --> 07:05:31.780 Tiger. 07:05:31.780 --> 07:05:32.620 Okay, one more. 07:05:33.860 --> 07:05:35.660 Bandit, I'm done, I'm done! 07:05:52.100 --> 07:05:53.460 Those are good cloaks. 07:05:53.460 --> 07:05:54.500 Yo, anyone want these? 07:05:54.500 --> 07:05:57.380 I'll sell them to you for cost, okay? 07:05:58.420 --> 07:06:00.220 We need to recoup so we can gamble some more. 07:06:00.220 --> 07:06:08.700 Like guys, these are good cloaks, warriors, rogues out there, for cost here, 29 silver. 07:06:12.920 --> 07:06:13.860 Can't believe this. 07:06:15.640 --> 07:06:17.400 I thought one of them would for sure roll. 07:06:23.080 --> 07:06:24.700 I'll take the stamina AP one. 07:06:24.860 --> 07:06:25.360 Oh. 07:06:30.220 --> 07:06:32.760 Yeah, I'm gonna make it all back, guys. 07:06:34.760 --> 07:06:36.360 Stamina attack power. 07:06:41.100 --> 07:06:42.600 It's got Hyrule, that's not bad. 07:06:47.400 --> 07:06:49.000 I bought it for like 29 silver. 07:06:50.400 --> 07:06:50.900 Eight? 07:06:56.680 --> 07:06:57.980 We're not even recoupin'! 07:06:58.940 --> 07:07:00.940 What eight 07:07:06.420 --> 07:07:08.420 Ten 07:07:09.220 --> 07:07:15.120 Bro, this is a good cloak. I took the risk and gambled for you and now he's ten silvering 07:07:16.700 --> 07:07:18.700 It vendors for seven 07:07:21.620 --> 07:07:23.620 That's crazy 07:07:23.620 --> 07:07:27.820 This is nuts 07:07:37.940 --> 07:07:40.300 This is this is this is super nuts here 07:07:40.300 --> 07:07:59.380 I'll buy your tiger for cost yes oh yes okay we're guys we're back up 30 silver on this 07:07:59.380 --> 07:08:14.660 nice and Cosmo is a warrior he wants the tiger for cost he's right out front good good 07:08:14.660 --> 07:08:16.060 Use it to gamble more. 07:08:28.280 --> 07:08:30.000 Someone said there's hidden techniques. 07:08:30.000 --> 07:08:34.500 I can do upgrades only. 07:08:37.760 --> 07:08:39.580 Is that a hidden technique? 07:08:44.660 --> 07:08:49.980 That doesn't change anything of spell power 07:08:52.220 --> 07:08:55.120 Yeah, you can't yeah, it doesn't work it's like bugged 07:09:09.340 --> 07:09:14.000 Is this I just bought wait someone said I bought two when gambled and I got this yeah 07:09:14.000 --> 07:09:16.000 That's what I'm going for 07:09:18.440 --> 07:09:20.440 What you've got one 07:09:22.080 --> 07:09:24.080 Okay, this guy wants the tiger 07:09:28.680 --> 07:09:30.680 There's the tiger bro 07:09:44.000 --> 07:09:49.920 If anyone wants the bear one three-stamp three strength 07:10:04.400 --> 07:10:10.300 You buy another loot box, should I try another one or is it a 07:10:14.000 --> 07:10:18.000 Tempest wants this last one. Guys, I recouped all my money on these. 07:10:21.000 --> 07:10:23.000 I recouped all my money. 07:10:24.000 --> 07:10:27.000 Do we full send another one? 07:10:28.000 --> 07:10:31.000 Do we full send? 07:10:37.000 --> 07:10:39.000 Agility. 07:10:39.000 --> 07:10:41.000 Come on 07:10:41.280 --> 07:10:43.280 Band come on 07:10:45.180 --> 07:10:47.180 Falcon 07:10:48.000 --> 07:10:53.360 No, oh, oh, man. I'm down bad 07:10:57.560 --> 07:11:02.960 All right guys, I got cloaks for sale I've got cloaks for sale message me if you need 07:11:02.960 --> 07:11:06.200 5 agi cloak that actually that cloak actually kind of bangs 07:11:06.880 --> 07:11:08.980 For stamina for this one's really good too 07:11:10.160 --> 07:11:13.960 Three stem three strength or three agi three in guys 07:11:18.080 --> 07:11:20.360 So wait this one what did you which one did you want? 07:11:21.800 --> 07:11:23.800 Tempest you wanted bear right? Oh 07:11:25.720 --> 07:11:27.720 Wow, we got a ten silver tip on that 07:11:29.960 --> 07:11:31.960 Agi in for hunters 07:11:33.920 --> 07:11:37.000 Okay, I want the ad she won 07:11:44.160 --> 07:11:48.480 If anyone wants any of these let me know wait don which one do you want? 07:11:53.840 --> 07:11:57.000 Which oh he's just funding the cloak addiction 07:11:58.840 --> 07:12:00.840 Thank you, bro 07:12:00.840 --> 07:12:05.720 I'm buying all of them. I'm buying all of them. I'm buying all of them 07:12:07.280 --> 07:12:09.280 Where's it at? 07:12:09.720 --> 07:12:11.720 Where's it at? 07:12:12.160 --> 07:12:14.160 There's only two left come on 07:12:15.680 --> 07:12:20.360 The item was not found you guys are buying them you guys bought it before I could 07:12:23.360 --> 07:12:25.360 There's no more 07:12:30.840 --> 07:12:58.840 Have you rollin' cloak? I don't even like that one. 07:12:58.840 --> 07:13:06.140 Black Welp Cloak, I don't really like that one either. 07:13:06.140 --> 07:13:08.220 Divine Light says 40 Silver for Falcon, sure. 07:13:08.220 --> 07:13:13.180 Yeah, if you guys, guys, I have a Falcon for sale, a Bandit for sale, the Aji for sale, 07:13:13.180 --> 07:13:17.800 and the Nature Protection for sale, which is just stamina, which is pretty, pretty not 07:13:17.800 --> 07:13:18.800 great. 07:13:18.800 --> 07:13:21.300 If you guys want any of these, just tell me and whisper. 07:13:31.080 --> 07:13:32.340 Put your bracers in. 07:13:33.700 --> 07:13:34.920 Oh, sick, thanks. 07:13:42.860 --> 07:13:43.700 Int? 07:13:44.620 --> 07:13:46.060 Plus five int? 07:13:46.060 --> 07:13:55.280 and chest. Oh, I already have the chest thing on now. Wait, what chest is it? Is it better 07:13:55.280 --> 07:14:05.680 than two spell powers, 16 armor? Greater int. What is that? Do I want in-elect over armor 07:14:05.680 --> 07:14:16.680 Spell power? I don't know. Yes, 100%? Alright. 07:14:23.680 --> 07:14:27.680 Six ends. I don't even know if that's better. Maybe. Yeah, probably. 07:14:30.680 --> 07:14:34.680 Um, Frappy wants the agility one. Here you go, bro. 07:14:35.680 --> 07:14:54.560 Oh, whoops. 07:14:54.560 --> 07:14:57.120 Which one do you want, Toker? 07:14:57.120 --> 07:14:58.120 Mining shovel. 07:14:58.120 --> 07:14:59.120 Oh, wow! 07:14:59.120 --> 07:15:02.240 That's what we are going for! 07:15:02.240 --> 07:15:04.520 Okay, we give him a nice tip. 07:15:04.520 --> 07:15:11.320 got it for 29 silver on the gamble we give them one gold that's fair that's a fair deal 07:15:17.080 --> 07:15:24.680 whoa okay guys we got our pre-biss cloak wait divine light which one did you want falcon here you go bro 07:15:24.680 --> 07:15:38.120 Oh wait, Falcon. Dude, the cloak's auger has been just high as the lows right now, man. 07:15:38.120 --> 07:15:46.720 You know I'm in enough inventory space. Nice, dude. Okay, so 4 stamina, 2 damage, that's 07:15:46.720 --> 07:15:51.080 pretty darn sick. I think it says the second bis cloak, actually. The whaling caverns one 07:15:51.080 --> 07:15:55.960 technically is a little better. Want to buy a cloak? I mean I don't have that many good ones but you can 07:15:58.040 --> 07:16:02.520 see. Valanac, thanks Lebron. Dang nice cloak, thanks bro. 07:16:07.160 --> 07:16:09.000 Wait did you want Falcon? Which one did you want? 07:16:10.440 --> 07:16:16.280 Divine Light wanted Falcon, here you go. It's not only cloaks guys I have are the Bandit one which 07:16:16.280 --> 07:16:19.400 is actually a really good cloak and then the nature protection which kind of sucks. 07:16:21.080 --> 07:16:37.880 Floak distributors are you as your next character name? 07:16:37.880 --> 07:16:39.760 I'm surprised no one wants this bandit. 07:16:39.760 --> 07:16:46.840 Four spam, four attack power, two actually seems pretty cracked. 07:16:46.840 --> 07:16:50.480 I think this nature protection one I'm just gonna disenchant, I don't think anyone's 07:16:50.480 --> 07:17:00.560 gonna want that. Okay, um, go dual someone. Okay. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I'll 07:17:00.560 --> 07:17:04.480 go outside and dual. If you guys want this, I'll keep it on me for a bit. This bandit 07:17:04.480 --> 07:17:17.000 cloaks pretty sick. Alright, guys, let's see if all of our hard work paid off here. We're 07:17:17.000 --> 07:17:24.520 We're not quite best in slot, but we're close. 07:17:24.520 --> 07:17:26.020 Would this be better? 07:17:26.020 --> 07:17:31.960 Yeah, this would be even better, but, well actually, you could make an argument it's 07:17:31.960 --> 07:17:37.120 a side grade, because you could say stamina is more important than PvP, intellect's more 07:17:37.120 --> 07:17:41.100 like, more important than PvE. 07:17:41.100 --> 07:17:44.440 And PvP, you could make an argument the channeler is actually better in PvP. 07:17:44.440 --> 07:17:55.320 Sorcerer is better, probably like overall though. 07:17:55.320 --> 07:18:10.760 I have 20 FPS out here man, do a quick little re-log on set guys. 07:18:10.760 --> 07:18:31.680 frame rate? Yeah, it's brutal. I think there's a patch supposed to be tomorrow, yeah. See, 07:18:31.680 --> 07:18:35.280 There's so many people out here. 07:18:35.280 --> 07:18:37.560 Fullgrim. 07:18:37.560 --> 07:18:38.680 Shaman wants to duel. 07:19:01.680 --> 07:19:08.680 Yeah. 07:19:08.680 --> 07:19:22.400 That felt pretty nice. 07:19:22.400 --> 07:19:29.800 I mean, that felt very nice. 07:19:29.800 --> 07:19:32.960 Naomi wants to duel a Druid. 07:19:32.960 --> 07:19:45.960 I think Druid's going to be a toughie. 07:19:45.960 --> 07:20:11.120 I'm tanky. I feel like I should be dead already, but I'm not. 07:20:15.960 --> 07:20:31.840 Oh, yeah, that's it. That's just like a tough matchup. I don't think I'm being a truant. 07:20:31.840 --> 07:20:44.760 Good dual man. GD. John. Is that you, John Blizzard? Oh, it's a mage. Love the videos 07:20:44.760 --> 07:20:51.400 about the mage breakdowns hey glad you're enjoying man you don't have counterspell yet 07:20:51.400 --> 07:20:54.920 nah not yet we're only level 20 like you don't really have much at this level 07:20:57.800 --> 07:21:01.080 i got it oh you got the coldflame saver nice 07:21:04.440 --> 07:21:14.600 that's legit 07:21:14.760 --> 07:21:40.760 Your XP bar has moved, this is just how I thunk up to 20. 07:21:40.760 --> 07:21:51.100 What's the headpiece you got? 07:21:51.100 --> 07:22:01.080 We tailoring up to build up silky circlates from, oh, Druid, man, there's a lot of Druids. 07:22:01.080 --> 07:22:07.080 I feel like every time I duel, all the druids come out of the woodworks. 07:22:07.080 --> 07:22:14.080 I'm going to let him go stealth, so he's a feral. 07:22:14.080 --> 07:22:17.080 There we go. 07:22:17.080 --> 07:22:21.080 Let him open up on us. 07:22:31.080 --> 07:22:43.480 I really thought soda pop and said that uh the leap spell was completely useless 07:22:47.640 --> 07:22:51.160 but every time I see it I see this just like druids now have a shadow step 07:22:53.080 --> 07:22:59.560 is soda pop like is soda all right man very useless as you see yeah I guess 07:22:59.560 --> 07:23:01.560 He can use Shadow Step on me now. 07:23:05.080 --> 07:23:07.080 Okay, here we go. 07:23:17.880 --> 07:23:21.480 What did Soda actually say? He said the Shadow Step is useless. 07:23:21.480 --> 07:23:29.600 This guy's like an Enhance or an E. He's like a attack power gear, but he has a spell 07:23:51.480 --> 07:24:18.480 of 07:24:18.480 --> 07:24:24.920 This guy actually played pretty solid. 07:24:24.920 --> 07:24:29.000 I actually played pretty trash, but... 07:24:29.000 --> 07:24:33.320 It said miss, okay. 07:24:33.320 --> 07:24:40.680 I think miss is what it says now instead of resist. 07:24:40.680 --> 07:24:41.680 Zara's kind of tanky. 07:24:41.680 --> 07:24:44.280 Yeah, I think it's just because my gear is so good. 07:24:44.280 --> 07:24:49.520 And it is really good guys. 07:24:49.520 --> 07:24:50.520 Warlock. 07:24:50.520 --> 07:25:04.400 What level do you get counterspelled to, like 24? 07:25:04.400 --> 07:25:18.920 Konokou 26 or something? 07:25:18.920 --> 07:25:22.800 I forgot fear is in the game this early. 07:25:22.800 --> 07:25:25.960 Well that's going to be tough. 07:25:25.960 --> 07:25:32.480 Wow, okay. 07:25:32.480 --> 07:25:44.700 That's going to be... 07:25:44.700 --> 07:25:46.400 Train life still goes through pillars. 07:25:46.400 --> 07:25:51.540 Just saying guys, we're just saying. 07:25:51.540 --> 07:25:54.700 I kind of chased him with a pillar to be honest. 07:25:54.700 --> 07:26:00.620 I don't think we're actually ever being a lock off that pillar. 07:26:00.620 --> 07:26:07.620 Cave Cape, Alium, Priest. 07:26:30.620 --> 07:26:46.020 I actually do so much damage, what the heck. 07:26:46.020 --> 07:26:51.940 I actually am so tanky too. 07:26:51.940 --> 07:26:55.660 I was gonna like reset and play it how you normally would but I think I can just kill 07:26:55.660 --> 07:26:56.660 him. 07:26:56.660 --> 07:27:00.020 Yeah, he's just dead. 07:27:00.020 --> 07:27:02.060 I think this is just a gear thing, though. 07:27:02.060 --> 07:27:03.400 I don't think you'd normally be able to do this. 07:27:03.400 --> 07:27:04.800 I think I just outgear him. 07:27:07.040 --> 07:27:09.540 Yeah, definitely just outgear this guy, just no way. 07:27:10.860 --> 07:27:13.000 Yeah, yeah, we have like double this guy's gear. 07:27:13.000 --> 07:27:15.260 I was gonna say like we should've, 07:27:15.260 --> 07:27:18.440 like normally you would not be able to do that, no way. 07:27:20.060 --> 07:27:22.260 Locke wants to duel again, let's do someone new. 07:27:23.860 --> 07:27:27.980 Plus buff, like off my wisdom king. 07:27:27.980 --> 07:27:30.660 That warlock had Kings 07:27:33.540 --> 07:27:36.100 Ski so wants to do I don't know where this guy is 07:27:43.020 --> 07:27:47.260 You're a blizzcon vlog from six years ago showed up on the home page. Yeah, that's what's up 07:27:53.540 --> 07:27:55.540 Proud 07:27:57.980 --> 07:28:02.980 I need to make first aid. 07:28:02.980 --> 07:28:03.980 I have no bandages. 07:28:03.980 --> 07:28:08.140 Well, I do have bandages, but they're the level one bandages. 07:28:08.140 --> 07:28:13.740 Guys, remind me to get some better first aid here. 07:28:13.740 --> 07:28:18.980 Did they think that harp... 07:28:18.980 --> 07:28:22.980 before half duration. That shouldn't have them. 07:28:40.980 --> 07:28:42.980 Do-do-do-do-do. 07:28:48.980 --> 07:28:55.980 Potion. Skizzle with the potion. Skizzle with the potion. 07:29:04.980 --> 07:29:06.980 Weedy. 07:29:10.980 --> 07:29:15.980 I heard Wandscale with Spell Power. That is true. Oh, Heavy Linen, thanks, bro. 07:29:15.980 --> 07:29:17.980 I need to get wall 07:29:18.420 --> 07:29:21.920 She knows I think I actually might have some wall in my bank 07:29:27.780 --> 07:29:31.480 Heavy wall I need to level up my first aid. Yeah, thank you though 07:29:35.260 --> 07:29:37.260 Hi sir, what up Jay, how's it going? 07:29:45.980 --> 07:30:00.420 Oh, that's awkward. 07:30:00.420 --> 07:30:08.340 This guy's speed potions in a duel. 07:30:08.340 --> 07:30:13.860 Nice, brah. 07:30:13.860 --> 07:30:14.860 Nice. 07:30:14.860 --> 07:30:30.980 Have you seen the Jeph's 720 zone video? 07:30:30.980 --> 07:30:31.980 Started streaming? 07:30:31.980 --> 07:30:33.660 I saw it, yeah, I saw it, it's sick. 07:30:33.660 --> 07:30:36.860 I think gold comes quite easy in a while forever. 07:30:36.860 --> 07:30:38.420 I have 5 gold at level 20. 07:30:38.420 --> 07:30:39.420 Really? 07:30:39.420 --> 07:30:40.420 What have you been doing? 07:30:40.420 --> 07:30:41.420 It's pretty sick. 07:30:41.420 --> 07:30:43.420 It's a lot of gold. 07:31:13.420 --> 07:31:15.420 Ice Lance, Ice Lance. 07:31:22.940 --> 07:31:30.120 So two weeks of level twink, 20 twink duels until level 30, uh, one week. It comes out next Thursday, but I'll be doing all she said. 07:31:30.120 --> 07:31:34.420 I think I should get a taunt or defensive since their new talents suggest tanking. 07:31:34.420 --> 07:31:35.420 Not yet. 07:31:35.420 --> 07:31:41.420 First-trend generation but zero survivability. So it seems like a worse vanilla prop paladin. 07:31:41.420 --> 07:31:53.380 So shamans are not tanks confirmed shamans are not designed to be tanks confirmed, but you can do it for fun anyway like a fun challenge 07:31:54.500 --> 07:31:56.500 Maybe in a later patch 07:31:57.140 --> 07:32:00.040 Shamans will be tanks. That would be cool 07:32:00.620 --> 07:32:06.380 But as of right now, they're not they're not tanks. They're not so they're not gonna get a taunt. That's just not how they 07:32:11.420 --> 07:32:21.820 He's gonna get him. 07:32:21.820 --> 07:32:26.400 Bum bum bum bum. 07:32:26.400 --> 07:32:28.460 But you could do it anyway for fun, right? 07:32:28.460 --> 07:32:31.800 You could do it like there's nothing stopping you from playing a shaman tank. 07:32:31.800 --> 07:32:40.140 If that's how you want to play it, which is cool. 07:32:40.140 --> 07:32:51.020 no shatter yet by the way. Yeah, Mages will be pretty strong, especially in PvP. We'll 07:32:51.020 --> 07:32:56.100 see how it goes though. I think against a good lock, druid, and priest, you're going 07:32:56.100 --> 07:33:03.740 to get dumpstered. I think it will actually be very similar to the metagame of classic 07:33:03.740 --> 07:33:09.580 vanilla, where Mages will have its dual matchups where you do really well, and Mages will have 07:33:09.580 --> 07:33:16.580 your dual matchups where you don't do very well. I think the matchups where you do well 07:33:16.580 --> 07:33:23.580 will be like Pallies, Warriors, Rogues, Hunters kinda and then you kinda get owned by Locke's, 07:33:23.580 --> 07:33:28.020 Truids and Priests and that's fine, like I'm not fine with that man, we're playing classical 07:33:28.020 --> 07:33:32.180 after all. Doesn't have, like that's the thing about classic man, it doesn't have to be too 07:33:32.180 --> 07:33:40.180 sweaty it's one of the things I like it's like it doesn't have to be you can 07:33:40.180 --> 07:33:45.020 kind of just play the game what about shaman shaman and mage duals are pretty 07:33:45.020 --> 07:33:50.780 even I guess I don't know I actually haven't done that many look I haven't 07:33:50.780 --> 07:33:53.580 done as many shaman 07:33:57.340 --> 07:34:01.580 and yet people will still make it sweaty oh yeah I mean that's just people you 07:34:01.580 --> 07:34:05.540 You know, that's 20-26 gaming, it is what it is, but it's cool that you can... 07:34:06.460 --> 07:34:07.420 Doesn't have to be. 07:34:08.500 --> 07:34:11.000 Did we make a tavern? We finally made a tavern! 07:34:11.160 --> 07:34:13.800 We finally made a tavern, finally getting some duels in. 07:34:14.740 --> 07:34:16.340 It was a long time coming. 07:34:19.900 --> 07:34:21.940 Guys are actually playing well, he's just trying to oom me. 07:34:27.180 --> 07:34:28.620 If I duel Pao yet, nah. 07:34:31.580 --> 07:34:49.180 So if you actually look at his mana, his mana is very similar to my mana. 07:34:49.180 --> 07:34:55.740 Man the game looks so good, oh my gosh it looks good. 07:34:55.740 --> 07:34:56.740 Where's Frostbite? 07:34:56.740 --> 07:34:57.740 Got a proc right there. 07:34:57.740 --> 07:34:59.660 I actually only have two points in Frostbite. 07:34:59.660 --> 07:35:03.860 I want to re-spec and put a third in there and drop one in permafrost. 07:35:03.860 --> 07:35:08.100 I might even get... does anyone know how much hit you need at level 20? 07:35:08.100 --> 07:35:10.940 I might even put one point in there for one point in hit. 07:35:15.660 --> 07:35:18.220 It's like 50 gold to re-spec, yeah. 07:35:18.220 --> 07:35:20.220 Jeez, mages look boring AF. 07:35:20.220 --> 07:35:23.980 The thing about, like, the game right now is we're level 20. 07:35:23.980 --> 07:35:27.420 Like, mages are kind of boring at level 20, but so is every class. 07:35:27.420 --> 07:35:29.020 That's just the game at level 20. 07:35:29.020 --> 07:35:35.600 Like, you don't have toolkits until you hit more like 40 for like a warrior or like a 07:35:35.600 --> 07:35:37.880 Pally, like a lot of stuff comes online later. 07:35:37.920 --> 07:35:39.160 So it is what it is. 07:35:40.160 --> 07:35:44.020 Hunter isn't, yeah, Hunter, I mean, some classes get the things a little earlier, 07:35:44.020 --> 07:35:46.780 but just keep in mind, like we're level 20, bro, you know. 07:35:59.020 --> 07:36:16.860 are you playing mage on launch yeah yeah 07:36:29.020 --> 07:36:38.500 Level 20 Mage has 90% of its kit at 20 with Bolt, Lance, Nova, Polly, and uh, not really. 07:36:38.500 --> 07:36:43.660 Like most of Mage damage is gonna come from Shatter and Ice Shards, you have neither, 07:36:43.660 --> 07:36:48.920 and Fingers of Frost, and then like Ice Block and Ice Barrier, and Cold Snap, and Kona 07:36:48.920 --> 07:36:52.040 Cold are like a lot of your kit too. 07:36:52.040 --> 07:36:58.000 You don't have like much of your kit at 20, when you have some, but I would certainly 07:36:58.000 --> 07:37:22.520 say it comes online later. 07:37:22.520 --> 07:37:29.520 Oh counterspell too, yeah. 07:37:29.520 --> 07:37:36.520 True. 07:37:36.520 --> 07:37:47.520 Miss. 07:37:47.520 --> 07:38:09.640 This guy's not playing terrible, it's just like a tough, I think a tough level range 07:38:09.640 --> 07:38:23.960 actually do anything as a shaman against a mage here. If he ever hits me I'm sure 07:38:23.960 --> 07:38:51.400 would hurt. 74 on that wand, what? Crit wand 74. My Ice Lancer doing 36, geez. Major lock 07:38:51.400 --> 07:38:56.600 better in terms of pvp and 1v1s at 60 usually lock but at 20 i mean i don't know 07:38:59.000 --> 07:39:01.320 revelation yeah revelation looks so good dude 07:39:01.320 --> 07:39:24.680 Resist. Oh, dual silver, guys. Maybe not. 07:39:24.680 --> 07:39:39.520 resist, two for two resist. 07:39:39.520 --> 07:39:54.520 Oh traps in combat, oh my gosh I forgot about that. 07:39:54.520 --> 07:40:04.640 trap. 07:40:04.640 --> 07:40:05.640 You beat me. 07:40:05.640 --> 07:40:06.640 Good duel. 07:40:06.640 --> 07:40:10.620 I also had Bob, so he really beat me if you've taken the count of buffs. 07:40:10.620 --> 07:40:12.920 We got two resists back to back. 07:40:12.920 --> 07:40:19.960 I went with the last giveaways a few hours ago. 07:40:19.960 --> 07:40:20.960 This hunter's trash? 07:40:20.960 --> 07:40:22.960 No, this hunter played really well. 07:40:22.960 --> 07:40:49.740 Let's see it. 07:40:49.740 --> 07:40:52.720 Shaman's Gamin pressing his best key bind. 07:40:52.720 --> 07:40:53.720 I respect it. 07:41:22.720 --> 07:41:29.560 80 damage or a shot correct nice. 07:41:29.560 --> 07:41:40.300 That Nova did 25 damage but did not root him. 07:41:40.300 --> 07:41:45.080 Nova does damage but didn't root him. 07:41:45.080 --> 07:41:47.320 It did that against the Hunter as well. 07:41:47.320 --> 07:41:49.320 Did I miss two Novas? 07:41:49.320 --> 07:41:52.200 No, it's hitting you. 07:41:52.200 --> 07:42:02.040 damage but not rooting that has to be a bug if they can't thank then should they 07:42:02.040 --> 07:42:06.400 can someone clip that I'll send it in yeah their talents are the only ones that 07:42:06.400 --> 07:42:12.800 have cross nova occasionally will do damage their talents sorry I'm gonna 07:42:12.800 --> 07:42:22.800 that real quick. Frost Nova Kasia will do damage, but not root the targets. And then 07:42:22.800 --> 07:42:28.320 if you guys have a clip of that, I'll send in that as well. Gigabit, a tester. There 07:42:28.320 --> 07:42:35.240 we go. Will classes be updated? Yeah. You see the new blizz video? Not yet. I saw the 07:42:35.240 --> 07:42:41.600 rain one if that's what you mean have I got the river glades not I think tomorrow 07:42:51.680 --> 07:42:57.800 I don't know if anyone has a clip of this if not I can get a clip of my own 07:42:57.800 --> 07:43:05.400 I do want to get that fix that's a big deal keeps happening 07:43:11.800 --> 07:43:14.940 Happened against the hunter, but I'll find the clip against the shaman here 07:43:18.480 --> 07:43:20.480 So let me just look again 07:43:20.480 --> 07:43:29.360 This was happening, I think when I was playing the demo as well, I Nova and it hit some for 07:43:29.360 --> 07:43:33.320 damage and like I'm pretty close to him but it doesn't actually root him. 07:43:33.320 --> 07:43:39.840 Yeah, okay, that's a good clip. 07:43:50.480 --> 07:43:57.480 Create clip. What the heck is this? 07:44:07.760 --> 07:44:10.760 No, I want it like after. 07:44:10.760 --> 07:44:12.600 Do it a little later. 07:44:12.600 --> 07:44:19.100 Nope, someone made a clip for me. Let's just see this one. 07:44:19.100 --> 07:44:22.180 You missed the frost Nova in the clip. Alright, let me make my own again 07:44:40.620 --> 07:44:47.860 Frost Nova hits miss okay frost Nova deals damage, but doesn't root 07:44:49.100 --> 07:44:51.100 save clip 07:44:52.100 --> 07:44:56.560 I haven't made a clip on twitching forever. What the heck is this some crazy tech? 07:45:00.260 --> 07:45:05.860 Damage probably as leeway, but root doesn't that sounds like the bug. Yeah, it doesn't work like that on era 07:45:06.220 --> 07:45:09.800 But that that sounds like what's happening. I think you're probably right 07:45:09.800 --> 07:45:23.480 Frost Nova doing damage but not rooting. 07:45:23.480 --> 07:45:34.840 Here is a clip of it. 07:45:34.840 --> 07:45:36.360 It's not every time, it's occasionally. 07:45:36.360 --> 07:45:38.360 Okay, here we go 07:45:43.080 --> 07:45:45.080 All right 07:45:45.380 --> 07:45:49.500 Well, I level a warrior I might do Pali or warrior next test Nova on Ghost wolf 07:45:50.540 --> 07:45:54.420 Sure, I don't think that's anything to do with Ghost wolf, but 07:45:56.880 --> 07:45:59.200 Yeah, I mean we know what Ghost wolf's plenty of times 07:46:06.360 --> 07:46:35.360 of 07:46:35.360 --> 07:46:47.600 Alright, you win. Try while jumping and try at max range. Sure, that's not a bad idea. 07:46:47.600 --> 07:46:59.960 Can try while jumping or at max range. Wait, hold on. Stay like right. Let me try it. Okay, 07:46:59.960 --> 07:47:09.320 So this is Arcane Explo- Wait, hold on, stay. 07:47:09.320 --> 07:47:17.440 So Arcane Explosion reads 10 yards, Frost Nova reads- Oh, he moved again, dang it. 07:47:17.440 --> 07:47:25.480 Frost Nova actually doesn't read any, it just says near. 07:47:25.480 --> 07:47:29.360 That range also seems too far. 07:47:29.360 --> 07:47:35.920 I think that range is too far, that's, I mean it should be pretty far but I think the range 07:47:35.920 --> 07:47:41.440 should more be like this, like this should hit, I don't think this should hit, this, 07:47:41.440 --> 07:47:55.760 this is a bug, that's a bug, arcane explosion with leeway is going a bit too far, like the 07:47:55.760 --> 07:47:58.520 The range should be like here, I think. 07:47:58.520 --> 07:48:00.480 I don't think it should be hitting from here. 07:48:03.760 --> 07:48:06.160 I think that is definitely too far. 07:48:06.160 --> 07:48:07.180 There's no way. 07:48:08.720 --> 07:48:10.120 I can test that on ERA. 07:48:11.800 --> 07:48:13.640 If you guys wanna, if someone has an ERA character, 07:48:13.640 --> 07:48:15.360 I could test that, but that seems crazy. 07:48:15.360 --> 07:48:17.700 Anyway, that means a Frost Nova should hit. 07:48:19.840 --> 07:48:23.040 So Frost Nova is doing the damage, 07:48:23.040 --> 07:48:26.980 But it's looking like it's not doing the route from there. 07:48:26.980 --> 07:48:29.600 Which by the way, that is too big for Frost Nova as well, 07:48:29.600 --> 07:48:30.800 just for the record. 07:48:30.800 --> 07:48:31.960 That's crazy. 07:48:33.900 --> 07:48:36.680 But maybe it is the Liwei working on the damage, 07:48:36.680 --> 07:48:38.640 but not working on the Nova. 07:48:39.760 --> 07:48:41.040 That's what it has to be. 07:48:41.040 --> 07:48:42.760 LiweiBug called it, yeah. 07:48:44.120 --> 07:48:45.360 Once again, let's try. 07:48:45.360 --> 07:48:47.600 If I jump in Nova, it does damage, 07:48:47.600 --> 07:48:50.080 but it doesn't route them. 07:48:51.200 --> 07:48:52.960 Which once again, seems too far. 07:48:52.960 --> 07:48:54.820 I think that's gotta be a bug. 07:49:05.540 --> 07:49:07.540 If I move forward a little bit, 07:49:10.760 --> 07:49:13.360 like here, it probably would work. 07:49:13.360 --> 07:49:14.200 It does. 07:49:16.640 --> 07:49:17.480 Interesting. 07:49:22.960 --> 07:49:44.500 Okay, so it's a leeway bug. 07:49:44.500 --> 07:49:46.540 What if Howl was that far? 07:49:46.540 --> 07:49:51.700 Any spell in the game while jumping gets extra ranged with leeway. 07:49:51.700 --> 07:49:57.980 It's something it's like a classic while mechanic, but it shouldn't be this much actually does anyone have of 07:49:59.620 --> 07:50:07.580 Crap an era character. I'm on a dead realm. No one's gonna have one on Farrellina. Let me think where can I test this? 07:50:09.540 --> 07:50:11.540 Hardcore 07:50:12.460 --> 07:50:14.460 Our season of discovery 07:50:15.340 --> 07:50:19.980 Let me log over let me see if I can find an era character. I don't think it's not far 07:50:19.980 --> 07:50:22.780 I really don't. But maybe I'm misremembering. 07:50:33.340 --> 07:50:38.300 I got Hardcore Doom Howl. Yeah, that'll work. I'll go Hardcore Doom Howl. 07:50:40.300 --> 07:50:41.260 I have an update though. 07:50:49.980 --> 07:50:53.180 Auto attacks are hitting from too far away as well. So leeway is just 07:50:53.900 --> 07:50:56.140 Too big right now potentially that might be what it is 07:50:59.260 --> 07:51:01.260 Feels like 20 mage isn't good for pvp 07:51:02.220 --> 07:51:08.300 I think they're fine. You're gonna instantly lose against like a druid or like a priest 07:51:09.820 --> 07:51:13.980 Or a lock, but you're gonna do really well against like a warrior, a paladin, a hunt 07:51:14.620 --> 07:51:17.980 Rogue hunters are maybe pretty even rogues might be pretty even too 07:51:17.980 --> 07:51:33.460 Like, it just depends what you're dueling. 07:51:33.460 --> 07:51:35.740 At the end of the day, it's level 20 PvP, right? 07:51:35.740 --> 07:51:36.740 Like, who cares? 07:51:36.740 --> 07:51:37.740 It's level 20. 07:51:37.740 --> 07:51:41.100 It's like, it's not supposed to be balanced. 07:51:41.100 --> 07:51:45.620 Um, does anyone have... 07:51:45.620 --> 07:51:47.960 Actually, no, let's not do this from... 07:51:47.960 --> 07:51:48.960 Let's go Doom Howl. 07:51:48.960 --> 07:51:54.000 Oh crap, you guys are all Doom Howl. 07:51:54.000 --> 07:51:58.280 Let me see. 07:51:58.280 --> 07:52:00.560 I have a Doom Howl. 07:52:00.560 --> 07:52:02.320 Oh no, I don't have a Doom Howl mage. 07:52:02.320 --> 07:52:05.840 I only have a Doom Howl warrior. 07:52:05.840 --> 07:52:09.440 I have a Feralina mage, a Bloodsail mage. 07:52:09.440 --> 07:52:12.840 I have a Defias Pilature mage. 07:52:12.840 --> 07:52:16.440 I have a Defias Pilature mage, a Feralina mage, and a Bloodsail mage. 07:52:16.440 --> 07:52:17.940 Does anyone have any of those three? 07:52:17.940 --> 07:52:27.380 I can go DP. Alright I'll go DP. I have like 360 mage's back, that's not too much. 07:52:27.380 --> 07:52:39.820 DP Horde. I have Horde on DP. Cool. I'll meet you outside Org or something. 07:52:39.820 --> 07:52:44.780 I have a couple donations to catch up on. I'll read them in just a sec. From Zman Bear's, 07:52:44.780 --> 07:52:50.220 sorry I need to I was just trying to do one thing at a time here I'm in org 07:53:01.340 --> 07:53:02.380 this UI seems big 07:53:06.140 --> 07:53:10.140 server looks busy no no dude bro these servers are they're cooked 07:53:14.780 --> 07:53:24.540 Um, my name is are you dead on DP horde if anyone is online? 07:53:24.540 --> 07:53:25.540 Great FPS though. 07:53:25.540 --> 07:53:26.540 Yeah, I'm actually not lagging. 07:53:26.540 --> 07:53:28.980 It's actually super smooth. 07:53:28.980 --> 07:53:33.900 I'll test on the pigs while you guys are getting here. 07:53:33.900 --> 07:53:42.140 So what do you guys think the distance I was like I was from the shaman it was like I was 07:53:42.140 --> 07:54:01.060 like that, right? I was hitting him. Closer? Is that like that? I mean, so that's not hitting. 07:54:01.060 --> 07:54:07.080 Let's go a little closer. That does hit from there. Maybe it's the same. Maybe the no models 07:54:07.080 --> 07:54:14.400 throwing me off that was pretty far this is era you're imagining it it's far let 07:54:14.400 --> 07:54:21.080 me try again maybe it's the same oh my gosh wow okay maybe it is just far so I 07:54:21.080 --> 07:54:27.840 reported that as a bug I wish I could take that back now let me double check 07:54:27.840 --> 07:54:32.840 Frost Nova works, oh this guy's here to test, cool. 07:54:44.240 --> 07:54:47.280 I miss era realms, let's bring back era, okay. 07:54:47.280 --> 07:54:52.080 No, that'll, guys, I am not kidding, I'm not kidding. 07:54:52.080 --> 07:54:55.720 That will be a movement one year from now. 07:54:56.520 --> 07:55:02.200 Not kidding not kidding 100% there will be a group of people 07:55:04.840 --> 07:55:08.800 That that that move back to era and maybe even six months from now 07:55:09.340 --> 07:55:11.680 Maybe three months. Yeah, maybe three months 07:55:12.400 --> 07:55:16.680 It'll happen. All right, so let me just stand still if you can yeah, okay? 07:55:17.880 --> 07:55:19.880 All right stand still 07:55:19.880 --> 07:55:35.080 Okay, so that, I feel like here I'll just shoot your pet and go over here. 07:55:35.080 --> 07:55:40.120 So that range is pretty massive. 07:55:40.120 --> 07:55:41.120 So the range is right about here. 07:55:41.120 --> 07:55:43.800 Now if I jump Frost Nova, does it work? 07:55:43.800 --> 07:55:44.800 Yes. 07:55:44.800 --> 07:55:50.800 jump frost nova from the same distance of max range with taking advantage of leeway should nova 07:55:51.360 --> 07:55:58.320 right now it's not so it's a bug cool we reported that so that's good so the nova part of the leeway 07:55:58.320 --> 07:56:11.440 is bugged good testing good job beta testers ah okay and thank you to sakao um anon says can you 07:56:11.440 --> 07:56:17.760 talk through mage-dueling philosophy. Mage-dueling philosophy is a lot about 07:56:19.360 --> 07:56:25.120 kiting, not getting hit, taking your time with your mana pool and your health pool. 07:56:25.120 --> 07:56:28.800 So like against a priest or a shaman, you're just going to be running away, 07:56:28.800 --> 07:56:32.400 getting them low on mana, sheeping them, then eating back to full and then killing them. 07:56:33.840 --> 07:56:37.840 Against certain things it's a race, like against a rogue oftentimes you're just trying to survive 07:56:37.840 --> 07:56:43.120 and not die and then reset and win against the hunter instead zoning so it depends on where you're 07:56:43.120 --> 07:56:50.480 fighting it's a little different on every matchup general philosophy is you know two big amateur 07:56:50.480 --> 07:56:58.480 shatters and kite and not get hit and reset win the duels in your favor um we got a five dollar 07:56:58.480 --> 07:57:03.200 donor from z-man says if they can't tank then they should just change the talents that suggested 07:57:03.200 --> 07:57:10.060 Agree with you. So right now like shaman's like aren't supposed to be tanks, but there are some times maybe it'll come later 07:57:10.060 --> 07:57:12.060 Maybe it'll come later 07:57:26.840 --> 07:57:28.840 Exactly my point yeah 07:57:28.840 --> 07:57:34.480 Like there's a lot of things that we just don't know yet. Maybe maybe they're doing things 07:57:34.480 --> 07:57:37.160 It's like okay, they can't tank right now, but maybe later they can 07:57:47.960 --> 07:57:52.880 Man the game looks so beautiful. All right guys one more duel one more duel 07:57:52.880 --> 07:58:00.360 There we go, rat. 07:58:00.360 --> 07:58:01.360 Wrapped coil wants to duel. 07:58:01.360 --> 07:58:02.860 Where you at? 07:58:02.860 --> 07:58:06.360 Right behind me. 07:58:06.360 --> 07:58:22.400 Yeah, that's going to be a tough one, boys. 07:58:22.400 --> 07:58:51.680 It's gonna be a toffee. 07:58:51.680 --> 07:58:54.840 Yeah, it is what it is. 07:58:54.840 --> 07:58:57.600 Yo, good duel, brother. 07:58:57.600 --> 07:58:58.680 Good duel, good duel. 07:59:05.280 --> 07:59:09.880 All right, guys, were you a fan of the new graphics? 07:59:09.880 --> 07:59:12.240 Like, the landscape is amazing. 07:59:12.240 --> 07:59:15.640 The art from the unit frame and the sky born 07:59:15.640 --> 07:59:20.080 and some of the modern like, what's 07:59:20.080 --> 07:59:27.440 I'm looking for like the HD models and then the assets, the gear, not so much, but like the 07:59:27.440 --> 07:59:33.040 landscaping, the art team, the world team that did the shadows. It's like the old world, but 07:59:33.040 --> 07:59:42.000 better shadows, better lighting, better water, better weather, all that stuff. Love, love, love, 07:59:42.000 --> 07:59:47.920 love. Because it still looks classic, it just looks even better. But yeah, the HD stuff, not as much. 07:59:47.920 --> 07:59:53.920 Oh fog sorry guys fog. It's a key word there. 07:59:53.920 --> 07:59:58.920 Jharni wants to duel Mr. Warlock. Alright, alright Jharni. 07:59:58.920 --> 08:00:04.920 It's pretty tough to duel a lock with no counterspell. 08:00:04.920 --> 08:00:11.920 We get feared and then it's going to be this until I'm dead kind of a thing. 08:00:17.920 --> 08:00:24.920 Ouch. 08:00:24.920 --> 08:00:31.920 Ouch. 08:00:31.920 --> 08:00:38.920 Ouch. 08:00:38.920 --> 08:00:43.920 Ouch. 08:00:43.920 --> 08:00:45.920 Ouch 08:00:55.340 --> 08:00:57.340 Ouch 08:01:00.140 --> 08:01:02.140 Ouch 08:01:07.000 --> 08:01:13.640 Oh, we don't have server ticks anymore. Oh, yeah, there goes that strategy. Well good dual men. Yeah, it's 08:01:13.920 --> 08:01:19.040 You know 20 mage versus lock, you know, like we don't expect balance, right? 08:01:20.720 --> 08:01:22.720 All right 08:01:22.800 --> 08:01:26.400 Not sure why I always watch your stuff on YouTube just figured I could watch you live do over live 08:01:26.400 --> 08:01:28.800 We have the YouTube videos the live videos everything 08:01:30.560 --> 08:01:32.560 All right guys 08:01:34.000 --> 08:01:36.000 Massive massive G's today 08:01:37.720 --> 08:01:42.360 Tomorrow we'll be back we can actually play the game because today we were getting ready to play the game 08:01:42.360 --> 08:01:49.360 Tomorrow we're going to check out Riverglades. Maybe we'll actually do some world pvp for once. 08:01:49.360 --> 08:01:54.360 I feel like for the last week I've been like getting ready and doing everything. 08:01:54.360 --> 08:01:59.360 Maybe tomorrow I'll actually check out Riverglades and hit up a little bit of world pvp. 08:01:59.360 --> 08:02:01.360 And then make an alt. 08:02:04.360 --> 08:02:07.360 I'll think about what I want it to be. It'll either be a Pali or a warrior. 08:02:07.360 --> 08:02:13.560 Pali has more new stuff. I've done a million warriors, but I do really like warrior 2. One of the other 08:02:14.200 --> 08:02:16.200 See what's good and then uh 08:02:17.880 --> 08:02:22.080 Yeah, we'll also see if we make the Pali on undead on the PvE realm, I don't know 08:02:24.520 --> 08:02:30.840 Regardless today was fun. If you guys enjoyed hit the follow button. Thank you so much for the big support big love more giveaways tomorrow 08:02:30.840 --> 08:02:40.040 tomorrow. Um, G cheese. We're out here. Peace.